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abolition-usa-digest Wednesday, November 10 1999 Volume 01 : Number 220
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Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 16:51:12 +1000
From: FoE Sydney - Nuclear Campaign <nonukes@foesyd.org.au>
Subject: (abolition-usa) letters, faxes, emails, burnout, and excess
Lately I've been trying to revive a campaign to get people to send faxes to
William Cohen, US defence secretary, and Yeltsin.
This was preceded by a sign on letter to US Defence Secretary Cohen.
The sign on letter was faxed with around 100 signatures on Saturday, Sydney
time (18 hours ahead of US time, or 6 hours behind on the following day).
The feedback I recieved is that people may not understand whay I am asking
them to fax 'again'.
This is the first time Cohen has been faxed.
He has not been targeted before.
He said not so long ago in Moscow that de-alerting was 'off the table', and
as he is the responsible US official, this is bad news.
He needs to hear, especially from US people, but from others also that this
is a bad mistake and that he should put it back on the table very quickly.
That's why I am asking people not only to sign on to the letter to Cohen,
which has now gone, but also to fax him yourselves.
I have certainly been persistent with this message but...yesterday was in
fact the first time I had actually posted a request to people in the US to
fax Cohen, and only the second time I have actually posted one to fax
Yeltsin and Sergeyev.
There have been many many requests to sign the big sign on letter. That is
not the same thing.
I will be posting similar requests at regular intervals till Mid december.
Do please if you have not done so, don't just press delete until you have
actually faxed or mailed either one or both of the folk I'm asking you to
fax. This isn't meant to spam you, but to if possible, get nuclear weapons
taken off alert.
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------------------------------
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 16:51:12 +1000
From: FoE Sydney - Nuclear Campaign <nonukes@foesyd.org.au>
Subject: (abolition-usa) letters, faxes, emails, burnout, and excess
Lately I've been trying to revive a campaign to get people to send faxes to
William Cohen, US defence secretary, and Yeltsin.
This was preceded by a sign on letter to US Defence Secretary Cohen.
The sign on letter was faxed with around 100 signatures on Saturday, Sydney
time (18 hours ahead of US time, or 6 hours behind on the following day).
The feedback I recieved is that people may not understand whay I am asking
them to fax 'again'.
This is the first time Cohen has been faxed.
He has not been targeted before.
He said not so long ago in Moscow that de-alerting was 'off the table', and
as he is the responsible US official, this is bad news.
He needs to hear, especially from US people, but from others also that this
is a bad mistake and that he should put it back on the table very quickly.
That's why I am asking people not only to sign on to the letter to Cohen,
which has now gone, but also to fax him yourselves.
I have certainly been persistent with this message but...yesterday was in
fact the first time I had actually posted a request to people in the US to
fax Cohen, and only the second time I have actually posted one to fax
Yeltsin and Sergeyev.
There have been many many requests to sign the big sign on letter. That is
not the same thing.
I will be posting similar requests at regular intervals till Mid december.
Do please if you have not done so, don't just press delete until you have
actually faxed or mailed either one or both of the folk I'm asking you to
fax. This isn't meant to spam you, but to if possible, get nuclear weapons
taken off alert.
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with "unsubscribe abolition-usa" in the body of the message.
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------------------------------
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 16:51:12 +1000
From: FoE Sydney - Nuclear Campaign <nonukes@foesyd.org.au>
Subject: (abolition-usa) letters, faxes, emails, burnout, and excess
Lately I've been trying to revive a campaign to get people to send faxes to
William Cohen, US defence secretary, and Yeltsin.
This was preceded by a sign on letter to US Defence Secretary Cohen.
The sign on letter was faxed with around 100 signatures on Saturday, Sydney
time (18 hours ahead of US time, or 6 hours behind on the following day).
The feedback I recieved is that people may not understand whay I am asking
them to fax 'again'.
This is the first time Cohen has been faxed.
He has not been targeted before.
He said not so long ago in Moscow that de-alerting was 'off the table', and
as he is the responsible US official, this is bad news.
He needs to hear, especially from US people, but from others also that this
is a bad mistake and that he should put it back on the table very quickly.
That's why I am asking people not only to sign on to the letter to Cohen,
which has now gone, but also to fax him yourselves.
I have certainly been persistent with this message but...yesterday was in
fact the first time I had actually posted a request to people in the US to
fax Cohen, and only the second time I have actually posted one to fax
Yeltsin and Sergeyev.
There have been many many requests to sign the big sign on letter. That is
not the same thing.
I will be posting similar requests at regular intervals till Mid december.
Do please if you have not done so, don't just press delete until you have
actually faxed or mailed either one or both of the folk I'm asking you to
fax. This isn't meant to spam you, but to if possible, get nuclear weapons
taken off alert.
- -
To unsubscribe to abolition-usa, send an email to "majordomo@xmission.com"
with "unsubscribe abolition-usa" in the body of the message.
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------------------------------
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 16:51:12 +1000
From: FoE Sydney - Nuclear Campaign <nonukes@foesyd.org.au>
Subject: (abolition-usa) letters, faxes, emails, burnout, and excess
Lately I've been trying to revive a campaign to get people to send faxes to
William Cohen, US defence secretary, and Yeltsin.
This was preceded by a sign on letter to US Defence Secretary Cohen.
The sign on letter was faxed with around 100 signatures on Saturday, Sydney
time (18 hours ahead of US time, or 6 hours behind on the following day).
The feedback I recieved is that people may not understand whay I am asking
them to fax 'again'.
This is the first time Cohen has been faxed.
He has not been targeted before.
He said not so long ago in Moscow that de-alerting was 'off the table', and
as he is the responsible US official, this is bad news.
He needs to hear, especially from US people, but from others also that this
is a bad mistake and that he should put it back on the table very quickly.
That's why I am asking people not only to sign on to the letter to Cohen,
which has now gone, but also to fax him yourselves.
I have certainly been persistent with this message but...yesterday was in
fact the first time I had actually posted a request to people in the US to
fax Cohen, and only the second time I have actually posted one to fax
Yeltsin and Sergeyev.
There have been many many requests to sign the big sign on letter. That is
not the same thing.
I will be posting similar requests at regular intervals till Mid december.
Do please if you have not done so, don't just press delete until you have
actually faxed or mailed either one or both of the folk I'm asking you to
fax. This isn't meant to spam you, but to if possible, get nuclear weapons
taken off alert.
- -
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with "unsubscribe abolition-usa" in the body of the message.
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------------------------------
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 09:19:48 EST
From: Charles F Hilfenhaus <chilfenhaus@juno.com>
Subject: (abolition-usa) Oboe 2 scheduled 11-9-99
Fooled me! Major correction to Oboe 2 posting of 11-5!
Las Vegas Review Journal 11-8-99 Page B1
" Energy officials are planning a subcritical experiment Tuesday at the
Nevada Test Site, another in the ongoing Oboe series.
The Oboe series will continue through 2000 at the test sites U1A complex
85 miles northwest of Las Vegas"
Security has been much tighter than previous tests which is why I was so
far off on the test date.
Charlie Hilfenhaus, Alliance of Atomic Veterans, Atomic Workers Division
___________________________________________________________________
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------------------------------
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 12:18:40 -0400
From: Peacework <pwork@igc.org>
Subject: Re: (abolition-usa) letters, faxes, emails, burnout, and excess
So what's the fax number for Cohen?
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------------------------------
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 16:06:02 -0500
From: "Joan Wade" <disarmament@igc.org>
Subject: (abolition-usa) Sign On or Write Your Own Missile Defense Comments!
> To: Opponents of National Missile Defense
> Fm: Stephen Young and Joan Wade
>
> Re: Sign-or or sample comments on Draft NMD EIS
>
> The Pentagon recently finished a Draft Environmental Impact Statement
(EIS)
> on the proposed national missile defense. They are accepting public
> comments on the EIS until November 15, 1999.
>
> Below is the text of a written comment on the Draft EIS recently released
> on the proposed deployment of a national missile defense. Organizations
are
> encouraged to submit their own comments to:
>
> Ms. Julia Hudson
> U.S. Army Space and Missile Defense Command
> Attn: SMDC-EN-V
> P.O. Box 1500
> Huntsville, AL 35807-3801.
>
> Alternatively, organizations can sign on to this statement by contacting
> Joan Wade at Disarmament Clearinghouse by email: disarmament@igc.org or
> phone 202-898-0150 ext. 232, or fax: 202-898-0172.
>
> Written comments are to the Pentagon due by November 15. Sign-ons must be
> received by COB Thursday, November 11.
>
> You can also provide comments over the internet, at:
>
> http://www.acq.osd.mil/bmdo/bmdolink/html/pubcomm.html
>
> or via email: nmdeis@smdc.army.mil
>
> + + + + +
>
> Written Comment on the Draft Environmental Impact Statement
> on National Missile Defense Deployment
>
> The following organizations are strongly opposed to the proposed
deployment
> of a national missile defense.
>
> President Clinton has announced he will decide whether to deploy a
national
> missile defense in June or July 2000. According to the President, that
> decision will be based on four factors: the readiness of the technology,
> the impact on arms control and relations with Russia, the cost
> effectiveness, and the threat. On each of these counts, the case for
> deployment is weak at best.
>
> 1. The technology is unproven, and cannot be shown to be reliable or
> effective by next summer's scheduled decision.
>
> 2. Unless Russia agrees to modify it, deployment would violate the
> Anti-Ballistic Missile (ABM) Treaty, a move that could unravel the entire
> nuclear non-proliferation regime and substantially increase the nuclear
> threat to the United States.
>
> 3. The cost of the system is unclear and likely to spiral upwards far
> beyond the $10.5 billion the Clinton Administration has budgeted over the
> next five years. The system cannot be shown to be effective and reliable
> under the current budget and deployment schedule.
>
> 4. The low-risk threat cited as justification for deployment, particulary
> North Korea's small and untested long-range missile arsenal, does not
> warrant the damage U.S. missile defense deployment would wreak on
relations
> with Russia and China.
>
> Each of these factors is reviewed below in more detail.
>
> 1. The readiness of the technology: Unproven by next summer, and by 2005
> By next June, the Ballistic Missile Defense Organization will have
> conducted only three intercept tests of the proposed national missile
> defense system. Nineteen such tests are scheduled before the first limited
> system is scheduled to go online, in late 2005. The first intercept
> attempt, on October 2, hit its target. However, this was only a test of
the
> "kill vehicle," the last component that destroys the incoming warhead. The
> booster rocket, the radars, and the integrated management system were not
> tested. In fact, only one of the first three tests will involve the
> complete system, and all three will use surrogate parts, not the actual
> components.
>
> So few tests cannot show the system to be reliable and effective by next
> summer's scheduled deployment decision. Even by 2005, when the system is
> scheduled to finish its initial deployment, the additional tests cannot
> prove this highly complex system to be reliable against real-world
threats.
> For example, the Patriot, adopted from an anti-aircraft missile system,
> achieved a perfect test record, hitting its target in all 17 of its
> intercept attempts. However, when used in the field during the Gulf War,
it
> failed dramatically.
>
> 2. The effect on arms control: Increasing nuclear dangers
> The Clinton Administration is currently discussing with Russia
> modifications to the ABM Treaty that would allow the U.S. to deploy a
> "limited" national missile defense. Both Clinton Administration and
Russian
> officials have repeatedly stated that the ABM Treaty remains the
> "cornerstone of strategic stability." To date, Russia has opposed all
> changes to the ABM Treaty and declared that U.S. withdrawal from it or
> insistence on changes would end the START process that is reducing
> strategic nuclear arsenals. This would leave Russia with 6,000 warheads
> that could hit the United States, many ready for launch within 15 minutes
> of a decision to attack. China already perceives that U.S. efforts to
build
> a missile defense are intended to weaken the Chinese deterrent. China's
> current arsenal is around 20 long-range, single warhead missiles. However,
> it is in a slow modernization program to build longer-range missiles with
> multiple warheads. China would likely react to U.S. deployment of a
missile
> defense by increasing the both the size of its arsenal and the pace of its
> improvements. Evidence of China's response to U.S. talk of abrogating the
> ABM Treaty is already developing, with Reuters reporting on October 25
that
> China recently added $9.7 billion to its defense budget to improve its
> nuclear arsenal.
>
> 3. Cost Effectiveness: Unsubstantiated
> In January 1999, the Clinton Administration added $6.6 billion for
> procurement to its five year plans for national missile defense, creating
a
> $10.5 billion total budget. However, most estimates expect even the small
> initial system envisioned in that budget would cost far more. The General
> Accounting Office estimated that it would cost $18 to $28 billion to
deploy
> a small system. This merely adds to the over $60 billion spent since
> President Ronald Reagan launched his Strategic Defense Initiative in 1983,
> money that has not lead to the deployment of a single effective system. It
> will take far more testing, and substantially increased budgets, to deploy
> a system that can be shown to be reliable and effective.
>
> 4. The Threat: Does not warrant rushed early deployment
> The proposed national missile defense system is being developed in an
> attempt to respond to the potential threat from so-called rogue states,
> specifically North Korea, Iran, and Iraq. North Korea, which has of these
> three by far the most advanced capability, recently agreed to halt its
> missile flight test program while negotiating with the United States. It
> has not tested a missile capable of hitting the United States with a
> nuclear warhead.
>
> On Iran, experts are divided on whether it will be able to field a missile
> that could threaten the U.S. within the next decade. Iraq is under severe
> international sanctions that effectively hinder it from developing any new
> missiles. Neither country would be able to field an intercontinental
> missile if the decision to deploy is delayed until the missile defense
> technology is shown to be effective.
>
> Conclusion
> Postponing the decision to deploy a national missile defense is an
> extremely low-risk course of action. Put simply, deploying a national
> missile defense MAY slightly reduce the low risk of a catastrophic attack
> on the U.S. carried out by a very few nuclear-armed missiles. That is true
> IF it proves capable of effectively intercepting incoming warheads.
> However, it WILL increase the risk of massive attack carried out with
> hundreds or thousands of such missiles that will destroy the United States
> entirely, along with much of the globe.
>
> ___________________________________
>
> Stephen Young, Deputy Director
> Coalition to Reduce Nuclear Dangers
> 110 Maryland Ave. NE #505
> Washington DC 20002
> p: (202)546-0795 ext. 102; fax: (202)546-7970
> website: <http://www.crnd.org>
> ___________________________________
- --
Joan L. Wade
Disarmament Clearinghouse Coordinator
1101 14th Street, NW, Suite 700
Washington, DC, 20010
Ph: (202) 898-0150 x232
Fax: (202) 898-0172
E-mail: disarmament@igc.org
Web: http://www.disarmament.org
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------------------------------
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 21:18:09 -0500
From: "Esther Pank" <esther.p@erols.com>
Subject: Re: (abolition-usa) Sign On or Write Your Own Missile Defense Comments!
Peace Links will submit our own statement. Thanks. Esther
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Joan Wade <disarmament@igc.org>
To: <abolition-usa@lists.xmission.com>; <a2000@silcom.com>
Sent: Monday, November 08, 1999 4:06 PM
Subject: (abolition-usa) Sign On or Write Your Own Missile Defense Comments!
> > To: Opponents of National Missile Defense
> > Fm: Stephen Young and Joan Wade
> >
> > Re: Sign-or or sample comments on Draft NMD EIS
> >
> > The Pentagon recently finished a Draft Environmental Impact Statement
> (EIS)
> > on the proposed national missile defense. They are accepting public
> > comments on the EIS until November 15, 1999.
> >
> > Below is the text of a written comment on the Draft EIS recently
released
> > on the proposed deployment of a national missile defense. Organizations
> are
> > encouraged to submit their own comments to:
> >
> > Ms. Julia Hudson
> > U.S. Army Space and Missile Defense Command
> > Attn: SMDC-EN-V
> > P.O. Box 1500
> > Huntsville, AL 35807-3801.
> >
> > Alternatively, organizations can sign on to this statement by contacting
> > Joan Wade at Disarmament Clearinghouse by email: disarmament@igc.org or
> > phone 202-898-0150 ext. 232, or fax: 202-898-0172.
> >
> > Written comments are to the Pentagon due by November 15. Sign-ons must
be
> > received by COB Thursday, November 11.
> >
> > You can also provide comments over the internet, at:
> >
> > http://www.acq.osd.mil/bmdo/bmdolink/html/pubcomm.html
> >
> > or via email: nmdeis@smdc.army.mil
> >
> > + + + + +
> >
> > Written Comment on the Draft Environmental Impact Statement
> > on National Missile Defense Deployment
> >
> > The following organizations are strongly opposed to the proposed
> deployment
> > of a national missile defense.
> >
> > President Clinton has announced he will decide whether to deploy a
> national
> > missile defense in June or July 2000. According to the President, that
> > decision will be based on four factors: the readiness of the technology,
> > the impact on arms control and relations with Russia, the cost
> > effectiveness, and the threat. On each of these counts, the case for
> > deployment is weak at best.
> >
> > 1. The technology is unproven, and cannot be shown to be reliable or
> > effective by next summer's scheduled decision.
> >
> > 2. Unless Russia agrees to modify it, deployment would violate the
> > Anti-Ballistic Missile (ABM) Treaty, a move that could unravel the
entire
> > nuclear non-proliferation regime and substantially increase the nuclear
> > threat to the United States.
> >
> > 3. The cost of the system is unclear and likely to spiral upwards far
> > beyond the $10.5 billion the Clinton Administration has budgeted over
the
> > next five years. The system cannot be shown to be effective and reliable
> > under the current budget and deployment schedule.
> >
> > 4. The low-risk threat cited as justification for deployment,
particulary
> > North Korea's small and untested long-range missile arsenal, does not
> > warrant the damage U.S. missile defense deployment would wreak on
> relations
> > with Russia and China.
> >
> > Each of these factors is reviewed below in more detail.
> >
> > 1. The readiness of the technology: Unproven by next summer, and by 2005
> > By next June, the Ballistic Missile Defense Organization will have
> > conducted only three intercept tests of the proposed national missile
> > defense system. Nineteen such tests are scheduled before the first
limited
> > system is scheduled to go online, in late 2005. The first intercept
> > attempt, on October 2, hit its target. However, this was only a test of
> the
> > "kill vehicle," the last component that destroys the incoming warhead.
The
> > booster rocket, the radars, and the integrated management system were
not
> > tested. In fact, only one of the first three tests will involve the
> > complete system, and all three will use surrogate parts, not the actual
> > components.
> >
> > So few tests cannot show the system to be reliable and effective by next
> > summer's scheduled deployment decision. Even by 2005, when the system is
> > scheduled to finish its initial deployment, the additional tests cannot
> > prove this highly complex system to be reliable against real-world
> threats.
> > For example, the Patriot, adopted from an anti-aircraft missile system,
> > achieved a perfect test record, hitting its target in all 17 of its
> > intercept attempts. However, when used in the field during the Gulf War,
> it
> > failed dramatically.
> >
> > 2. The effect on arms control: Increasing nuclear dangers
> > The Clinton Administration is currently discussing with Russia
> > modifications to the ABM Treaty that would allow the U.S. to deploy a
> > "limited" national missile defense. Both Clinton Administration and
> Russian
> > officials have repeatedly stated that the ABM Treaty remains the
> > "cornerstone of strategic stability." To date, Russia has opposed all
> > changes to the ABM Treaty and declared that U.S. withdrawal from it or
> > insistence on changes would end the START process that is reducing
> > strategic nuclear arsenals. This would leave Russia with 6,000 warheads
> > that could hit the United States, many ready for launch within 15
minutes
> > of a decision to attack. China already perceives that U.S. efforts to
> build
> > a missile defense are intended to weaken the Chinese deterrent. China's
> > current arsenal is around 20 long-range, single warhead missiles.
However,
> > it is in a slow modernization program to build longer-range missiles
with
> > multiple warheads. China would likely react to U.S. deployment of a
> missile
> > defense by increasing the both the size of its arsenal and the pace of
its
> > improvements. Evidence of China's response to U.S. talk of abrogating
the
> > ABM Treaty is already developing, with Reuters reporting on October 25
> that
> > China recently added $9.7 billion to its defense budget to improve its
> > nuclear arsenal.
> >
> > 3. Cost Effectiveness: Unsubstantiated
> > In January 1999, the Clinton Administration added $6.6 billion for
> > procurement to its five year plans for national missile defense,
creating
> a
> > $10.5 billion total budget. However, most estimates expect even the
small
> > initial system envisioned in that budget would cost far more. The
General
> > Accounting Office estimated that it would cost $18 to $28 billion to
> deploy
> > a small system. This merely adds to the over $60 billion spent since
> > President Ronald Reagan launched his Strategic Defense Initiative in
1983,
> > money that has not lead to the deployment of a single effective system.
It
> > will take far more testing, and substantially increased budgets, to
deploy
> > a system that can be shown to be reliable and effective.
> >
> > 4. The Threat: Does not warrant rushed early deployment
> > The proposed national missile defense system is being developed in an
> > attempt to respond to the potential threat from so-called rogue states,
> > specifically North Korea, Iran, and Iraq. North Korea, which has of
these
> > three by far the most advanced capability, recently agreed to halt its
> > missile flight test program while negotiating with the United States. It
> > has not tested a missile capable of hitting the United States with a
> > nuclear warhead.
> >
> > On Iran, experts are divided on whether it will be able to field a
missile
> > that could threaten the U.S. within the next decade. Iraq is under
severe
> > international sanctions that effectively hinder it from developing any
new
> > missiles. Neither country would be able to field an intercontinental
> > missile if the decision to deploy is delayed until the missile defense
> > technology is shown to be effective.
> >
> > Conclusion
> > Postponing the decision to deploy a national missile defense is an
> > extremely low-risk course of action. Put simply, deploying a national
> > missile defense MAY slightly reduce the low risk of a catastrophic
attack
> > on the U.S. carried out by a very few nuclear-armed missiles. That is
true
> > IF it proves capable of effectively intercepting incoming warheads.
> > However, it WILL increase the risk of massive attack carried out with
> > hundreds or thousands of such missiles that will destroy the United
States
> > entirely, along with much of the globe.
> >
> > ___________________________________
> >
> > Stephen Young, Deputy Director
> > Coalition to Reduce Nuclear Dangers
> > 110 Maryland Ave. NE #505
> > Washington DC 20002
> > p: (202)546-0795 ext. 102; fax: (202)546-7970
> > website: <http://www.crnd.org>
> > ___________________________________
> --
> Joan L. Wade
> Disarmament Clearinghouse Coordinator
> 1101 14th Street, NW, Suite 700
> Washington, DC, 20010
> Ph: (202) 898-0150 x232
> Fax: (202) 898-0172
> E-mail: disarmament@igc.org
> Web: http://www.disarmament.org
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 09:58:05 -0800 (PST)
From: Nuclear Age Peace Foundation <a2000@silcom.com>
Subject: (abolition-usa) Please do not post messages to abolition-caucus@igc.apc.org
Dear All,
Please DO NOT send out or post any messages to the previous Abolition
Global Caucus at the address "abolition-caucus@igc.apc.org." This account
has been closed! Please post any new messages to
"abolition-caucus@egroups.com" as Egroups.com will now host our listserve.
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address only further perpetuates the virus that has infected many members.
If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact me. I
appreciate your immediate attention and cooperation in this matter.
Yours In Peace,
Carah Ong
Carah Lynn Ong
Coordinator, Abolition 2000
Nuclear Age Peace Foundation
1187 Coast Village Road PMB 121, Suite 1
Santa Barbara CA 93108
Phone (805) 965 3443 FAX(805) 568 0466
Email: A2000@silcom.com
Website http://www.wagingpeace.org/abolition2000
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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 09:58:05 -0800 (PST)
From: Nuclear Age Peace Foundation <a2000@silcom.com>
Subject: (abolition-usa) Please do not post messages to abolition-caucus@igc.apc.org
Dear All,
Please DO NOT send out or post any messages to the previous Abolition
Global Caucus at the address "abolition-caucus@igc.apc.org." This account
has been closed! Please post any new messages to
"abolition-caucus@egroups.com" as Egroups.com will now host our listserve.
The listserve at IGC no longer exists and posting messages to the igc
address only further perpetuates the virus that has infected many members.
If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact me. I
appreciate your immediate attention and cooperation in this matter.
Yours In Peace,
Carah Ong
Carah Lynn Ong
Coordinator, Abolition 2000
Nuclear Age Peace Foundation
1187 Coast Village Road PMB 121, Suite 1
Santa Barbara CA 93108
Phone (805) 965 3443 FAX(805) 568 0466
Email: A2000@silcom.com
Website http://www.wagingpeace.org/abolition2000
Join the Abolition-USA or Abolition-Global Caucus list serve to regularly
receive updates about the Abolition movement. Both caucus' also provide a
forum for conversation on nuclear-related issues as well as they are used
to post important articles and information pertaining to nuclear abolition.
To subscribe to the Abolition Global Caucus, please do one of the following:
1. Send a message to the list moderator at A2000@silcom.com
2. Visit the Abolition-caucus website at:
Http://www.egroups.com/list/abolition-caucus/ and submit a membership form.
3. Visit the Abolition 2000 website and submit a membership form.
4. Send an e-mail to: abolition-caucus-subscribe@egroups.com (leave the
subject line and body of the message blank).
To post a message to the Abolition Global Caucus, send your message to:
abolition-caucus@egroups.com
To subscribe to the Abolition-USA listerve, send a message (with no
subject) to:
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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 09:58:05 -0800 (PST)
From: Nuclear Age Peace Foundation <a2000@silcom.com>
Subject: (abolition-usa) Please do not post messages to abolition-caucus@igc.apc.org
Dear All,
Please DO NOT send out or post any messages to the previous Abolition
Global Caucus at the address "abolition-caucus@igc.apc.org." This account
has been closed! Please post any new messages to
"abolition-caucus@egroups.com" as Egroups.com will now host our listserve.
The listserve at IGC no longer exists and posting messages to the igc
address only further perpetuates the virus that has infected many members.
If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact me. I
appreciate your immediate attention and cooperation in this matter.
Yours In Peace,
Carah Ong
Carah Lynn Ong
Coordinator, Abolition 2000
Nuclear Age Peace Foundation
1187 Coast Village Road PMB 121, Suite 1
Santa Barbara CA 93108
Phone (805) 965 3443 FAX(805) 568 0466
Email: A2000@silcom.com
Website http://www.wagingpeace.org/abolition2000
Join the Abolition-USA or Abolition-Global Caucus list serve to regularly
receive updates about the Abolition movement. Both caucus' also provide a
forum for conversation on nuclear-related issues as well as they are used
to post important articles and information pertaining to nuclear abolition.
To subscribe to the Abolition Global Caucus, please do one of the following:
1. Send a message to the list moderator at A2000@silcom.com
2. Visit the Abolition-caucus website at:
Http://www.egroups.com/list/abolition-caucus/ and submit a membership form.
3. Visit the Abolition 2000 website and submit a membership form.
4. Send an e-mail to: abolition-caucus-subscribe@egroups.com (leave the
subject line and body of the message blank).
To post a message to the Abolition Global Caucus, send your message to:
abolition-caucus@egroups.com
To subscribe to the Abolition-USA listerve, send a message (with no
subject) to:
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Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 10:04:48 +1100
From: "Helen Caldicott" <hcaldic@ibm.net>
Subject: Re: (abolition-usa) letters, faxes, emails, burnout, and excess
John, I havn't received the money yet and I need it ASAP, where is it?
Regards Helen Caldicott
- ----- Original Message -----
From: FoE Sydney - Nuclear Campaign <nonukes@foesyd.org.au>
To: <y2k-nukes@envirolink.org>; <y2k-nuclear@egroups.com>;
<abolition-usa@lists.xmission.com>; <abolition-europe@vlberlin.comlink.de>;
<abolition-caucus@igc.apc.org>
Sent: Monday, November 08, 1999 5:51 PM
Subject: (abolition-usa) letters, faxes, emails, burnout, and excess
> Lately I've been trying to revive a campaign to get people to send faxes
to
> William Cohen, US defence secretary, and Yeltsin.
>
> This was preceded by a sign on letter to US Defence Secretary Cohen.
>
> The sign on letter was faxed with around 100 signatures on Saturday,
Sydney
> time (18 hours ahead of US time, or 6 hours behind on the following day).
>
> The feedback I recieved is that people may not understand whay I am asking
> them to fax 'again'.
>
> This is the first time Cohen has been faxed.
>
> He has not been targeted before.
>
> He said not so long ago in Moscow that de-alerting was 'off the table',
and
> as he is the responsible US official, this is bad news.
>
> He needs to hear, especially from US people, but from others also that
this
> is a bad mistake and that he should put it back on the table very quickly.
>
> That's why I am asking people not only to sign on to the letter to Cohen,
> which has now gone, but also to fax him yourselves.
>
> I have certainly been persistent with this message but...yesterday was in
> fact the first time I had actually posted a request to people in the US to
> fax Cohen, and only the second time I have actually posted one to fax
> Yeltsin and Sergeyev.
>
> There have been many many requests to sign the big sign on letter. That is
> not the same thing.
>
> I will be posting similar requests at regular intervals till Mid december.
>
> Do please if you have not done so, don't just press delete until you have
> actually faxed or mailed either one or both of the folk I'm asking you to
> fax. This isn't meant to spam you, but to if possible, get nuclear weapons
> taken off alert.
>
>
>
> -
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Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 16:22:03 EST
From: PeaceFirst@aol.com
Subject: Re: (abolition-usa) letters, faxes, emails, burnout, and excess
money for what?
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