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From: owner-abolition-usa-digest@lists.xmission.com (abolition-usa-digest)
To: abolition-usa-digest@lists.xmission.com
Subject: abolition-usa-digest V1 #130
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abolition-usa-digest Thursday, May 20 1999 Volume 01 : Number 130
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Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 23:12:35 -0700
From: "David Crockett Williams" <gear2000@lightspeed.net>
Subject: (abolition-usa) URGENT Need Old Map of Belgrade to document Chinese Embassy bombing motives/story
Excellent Brian! Good job on this thoughtful and potentially significant
suggestion!
Although it was an obvious next step, this is a classic example of
productive internet collaboration. I "should" have thought of it too, but
dealing with 4-500 emails a day had me moving too fast. Your "right on
time" response to Peter Dale Scott's post and your insight here may prove
pivotal if Jared can get ahold of this old map. If he does I hope that he
will scan and
copy to each of us asap so we can forward to our media and activist contact
lists. If so this will blow the lid off of this and we should coordinate
rapid dissemination of this data on emergency basis. In case Jared has a
hard time getting such map it could be a good idea to put the word out on
this idea to any others who may have access to one. I already forwarded the
two posts that I sent to you (Jared's and Peter Dale Scott's) on this to my
national media lists so perhaps others are looking into this right now.
Here's hoping....and praying.....
David gear2000@lightspeed.net
Global Emergency Alert Response
http://www.angelfire.com/on/GEAR2000
From: JaredI@aol.com <JaredI@aol.com>
To: gear2000@lightspeed.net <gear2000@lightspeed.net>
Subject: Re: Need Old Map of Belgrade
Date: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 4:00 PM
Very good point. I will try right now - I may be able to do this.
J
From: David Crockett Williams <gear2000@lightspeed.net>
To: JaredI@aol.com <JaredI@aol.com>
Cc: Brian Murphy <BMurphy422@aol.com>; Yugoslavia Discussion List
<yugoslavia-discuss@coollist.com>
Subject: Need Old Map of Belgrade
Date: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 2:32 PM
Jared, can you or anyone get hold of a map from this Serbian gentleman? See
Brian Murphy's comments following.
A PARK, AND OTHER MILITARY TARGETS
This writer has just spoken to a Serbian gentlemen whose
family lives a few blocks from the Embassy. He says the
Embassy was built 4 or 5 years ago and that prior to
the building of the Embassy, the only thing there was: a park.
A park: tress and grass...
Therefore the notion that NATO could possess a map drawn
before the Chinese Embassy was built which showed any building
occupying the land on which the Embassy now stands is simply
impossible. There was nothing there but trees and grass.
Therefore NATO is lying.
From: BMurphy422@aol.com <BMurphy422@aol.com>
To: gear2000@lightspeed.net <gear2000@lightspeed.net>
Subject: Re: "UNINTENTIONAL" BOMBING REPEATS A FAMILIAR PATTERN
Date: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 3:49 AM
Is there any way to get pre-embassy maps that show the area was a park? I
think that would be a smoking gun that everone can see! For how can they
blow this off as an old map, when a old map would show a park!
Brian
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Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 23:36:53 -0700
From: "David Crockett Williams" <gear2000@lightspeed.net>
Subject: (abolition-usa) US shuts down Yugoslav Internet
From: Michael <roadrunner@earthling.net>
To: roadrunner@earthling.net <roadrunner@earthling.net>
Subject: US shuts down Yugoslav Internet
Date: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 8:31 PM
The following message is ominous for all who believe in the free
exchange of information and ideas. NATO has rationalized the murder of
journalists and the destruction of transmitting facilities by claiming
they were disseminating "official propaganda." Now they want to shut
down the only independent source of news and information between
Yugoslavia and the outside world. As with the systematic destruction of
Yugoslavia's infrastructure, this is an attack not on the military but
on all the people. Now only NATO's version of the war will be
available. How nice. --MC
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
PLEASE POST AND DISTRIBUTE WIDELY
US shuts down Yugoslav Internet
Dear sirs,
We have reliable information that the US Government ordered
Loral Orion company to shut down its satellite feeds for
Internet customers in Yugoslavia.
This action might be taken as soon as later tonight or tomorrow
(May 12 or 13, 1999).
This is a flagrant violation of commercial contracts with
Yugoslav ISPs, as well as an attack on freedom of the Internet.
A Web site in protest of these actions should be up shortly. We
will supply you with the URL. In the meantime, please be so kind
to inform as many people as possible about this tragic event for
the Internet community in Yugoslavia and Europe.
Kind regards,
BeoNET
Belgrade, Yugoslavia
http://www.beonet.yu
.yuP
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Date: Thu, 13 May 1999 00:29:35 -0700
From: "David Crockett Williams" <gear2000@lightspeed.net>
Subject: (abolition-usa) NATO to Target Nuclear Reactor, US orders Yugo Internet crashed [2 fwd posts]
Subject: URGENT! VINCA Institute of Nuclear Sciences to be BOMBED?!
Date: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 2:41 PM
Activist Mailing List - http://get.to/activist
Fwd From: Maria-Raimonda USAI <mru2@york.ac.uk>
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 17:20:56 +0100 (BST)
Subject: Real disaster threat(fwd)
Hello, I have been forwarded this, apparently sent by P.R. Adzic, Belgrad=
e.
I replied to both email addresses ( the one from CERN in Switzerland and
the one from Belgrade) and didn't get a reply. They ask to send this to a=
s
many people as possible to avoid the disaster. Perheaps it would be
useful to inform the press, anybody knows how/who?
Raimonda Usai
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Real disaster threat
Dear friends,
Something which we feared that might happen, seems very likely.
I can confirm now we expect that NATO planes will bomb VINCA
Institute. In the passed several days we received this warning,
but today we got this information as serious threat from the
highest authorities.
Our reactor is not working for more than 15 years, but the
significant amount of 235-U enriched and unused fuel is still
in its interior. Highly radioactive material for everyday
activities is also located in several research laboratories.
I fear that a big disaster may occur. In the worst case, no
Balkan and even European country would be safe. Not to mention
ecological catastrophe. I still hope that this disaster could
be avoided, unless we are already late.
I would appreciate if you succeed in informing as many people
as possible on the eventual tragedy. God bless you.
P.R. Adzic
------
P.R. Adzic Tel:(381 11)
444-7965/455-041
VINCA Institute of Nuclear Sciences Fax:(381 11)
455-041
Laboratory of Physics (010)
P.O. Box 522, 11001 Belgrade
E-mail:apetar@rt270.vin.bg.ac.yu
Yugoslavia
peter.adzic@cern.ch
-------------------------------
ADVANCES IN NUCLEAR PHYSICS AND
RELATED AREAS
Thessaloniki 8-12 July 1997
E-mail thesnuc@physics.auth.gr
tel: +30-31-998031
fax: +30-31-998128
--------------------------------
From: Michael <roadrunner@earthling.net>
To: roadrunner@earthling.net <roadrunner@earthling.net>
Subject: US shuts down Yugoslav Internet
Date: Wednesday, May 12, 1999 8:31 PM
The following message is ominous for all who believe in the free
exchange of information and ideas. NATO has rationalized the murder of
journalists and the destruction of transmitting facilities by claiming
they were disseminating "official propaganda." Now they want to shut
down the only independent source of news and information between
Yugoslavia and the outside world. As with the systematic destruction of
Yugoslavia's infrastructure, this is an attack not on the military but
on all the people. Now only NATO's version of the war will be
available. How nice. --MC
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
PLEASE POST AND DISTRIBUTE WIDELY
US shuts down Yugoslav Internet
Dear sirs,
We have reliable information that the US Government ordered
Loral Orion company to shut down its satellite feeds for
Internet customers in Yugoslavia.
This action might be taken as soon as later tonight or tomorrow
(May 12 or 13, 1999).
This is a flagrant violation of commercial contracts with
Yugoslav ISPs, as well as an attack on freedom of the Internet.
A Web site in protest of these actions should be up shortly. We
will supply you with the URL. In the meantime, please be so kind
to inform as many people as possible about this tragic event for
the Internet community in Yugoslavia and Europe.
Kind regards,
BeoNET
Belgrade, Yugoslavia
http://www.beonet.yu
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 13:03:45 EDT
From: DavidMcR@aol.com
Subject: (abolition-usa) Yugoslavia barred from Hague Peace Conference
In a message dated 5/17/99 11:36:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
jim_forest@compuserve.com writes:
<<
* * * forwarded posting * * *
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 22:25:16 -0400
From: Michael <roadrunner@earthling.net>
Subject: Yugoslavia barred from Peace Conference
YUGOSLAV DELEGATION PREVENTED FROM ATTENDING PEACE CONFERENCE
From Tanjug, Belgrade, May 13
The Yugoslav League for Peace Independence and Equality of Peoples
Thursday informed the domestic and foreign public that its delegation
had been prevented from attending the international conference"The Hague
Appeal for Peace" in the Hague May 11-13.
The delegation of the Yugoslav League for Peace was unable to attend the
biggest peace conference in the past few years because the Dutch Foreign
Ministry did not give the approval necessary for the issue of visas to
the delegation members.
The delegation of the Yugoslav League for Peace had intended to inform
the conference about NATO aggression on Yugoslavia and the grave
consequences of the brutal bombardments of civilians and civilian
facilities, the destruction of the Yugoslav economy and the entire
infrastructure, hospitals, cultural and historical monuments, and
religious facilitis, as well as about the efforts invested by the
Yugoslav League for Peace for a peaceful solution to the crisis.
The delegation informed the organizers of the international peace
conference that they were prevented from attending the meeting, and
voiced hope that the Hague conference would condemn NATO aggression on
Yugoslavia and the discriminatory act towards the Yugoslav League for
Peace and lend support to the resumption of the political process for a
peaceful, equitable and lasting solution, the Yugoslav League for Peace
said.
* * *
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Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 21:44:46 EDT
From: DavidMcR@aol.com
Subject: (abolition-usa) Re: Paul Watson, L.A. Times
In a message dated 5/17/99 1:12:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, b.ally@thing.ne=
t=20
writes:
<< Monday, May 17, 1999 DISPATCH FROM KOSOVO
from the Los Angeles Times=20
In One Village, Albanian Men Are Everywhere =20
By PAUL WATSON, Times Staff Writer
(no, apparently not the same Paul Watson from the Sea Shepherd.
Strange synchronicities!)=20
=A0
In One Village, Albanian Men Are Everywhere
=20
VETLJE, Yugoslavia--Something strange is going on in this Kosovo Albanian
village in what was once a hard-line guerrilla stronghold, where NATO
accuses Serbs of committing genocide.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0An estimated 15,000 displaced ethnic Albanians live in and a=
round
Svetlje, in northern Kosovo, and hundreds of young men are everywhere,
strolling along the dirt roads or lying on the grass on a spring day.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0So many fighting-age men in a region where the Kosovo Libera=
tion Army
fought some of its fiercest battles against Serbian forces are a challenge
to the black-and-white versions of what is happening here.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0By their own accounts, the men are not living in a concentra=
tion camp,
nor being forced to labor for the police or army, nor serving as human
shields for Serbs.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Instead, they are waiting with their families for permission =
to follow
thousands who have risked going back home to nearby villages because they d=
o
not want to give up and leave Kosovo, a province of Serbia, the main
Yugoslav republic.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0"We wanted to stay here where we were born," Skender Velia, =
39, said
through a translator. "Those who wanted to go through Macedonia and on to
Europe have already left. We did not want to follow."
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0A foreign journalist spent two hours in Svetlje over the wee=
kend, his
second visit in less than a week, without a police or military escort or a
Serbian official to monitor what was seen or said.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0The closest Serbian security forces were two policemen sitti=
ng at a
checkpoint half a mile up the dirt road, who weren't pleased to see so many
refugees moving back into the Podujevo area.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Just as NATO accuses Yugoslav forces of using ethnic Albania=
n refugees
as "human shields," the Serbs say KLA fighters hide among ethnic Albanian
civilians to carry out "terrorist attacks."
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0But Velia and other ethnic Albanians interviewed in Svetlje =
said they
haven't had any problems with Serbian police since the police allowed them
to come back.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0"For the month that we've been here, the police have come on=
ly to sell
cigarettes, but there hasn't been any harassment," Velia said.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0That isn't what North Atlantic Treaty Organization Secretary=
- -General
Javier Solana believes is happening in Kosovo.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Solana told BBC television Sunday that he expected much more =
evidence
of "ethnic cleansing" in the province to emerge once the war is over. "You
don't see males in their 30s to 60s," he said.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0And on CBS-TV's "Face the Nation" on Sunday, Defense Secreta=
ry William
S. Cohen said that as many as 100,000 ethnic Albanian men of fighting age
have vanished in Kosovo and may have been killed by Serbian forces.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0The claims and counterclaims are only part of the tangled we=
b that
threatens to trap NATO after nearly two months of bombing intended to make
peace here.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Kosovo Albanians continue to flee Yugoslavia, often with det=
ailed
accounts of atrocities by Serbian security forces or paramilitaries.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Yet thousands of other ethnic Albanians are coming out of hi=
ding in
forests and in the mountains, hungry and frightened, and either going back
home or waiting for police permission to do so.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0While Serbian police seize the identity documents of Kosovo =
Albanians
crossing the border into Albania or Macedonia, government officials in
Pristina, Kosovo's provincial capital, issue new identity cards to ethnic
Albanians still here.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0The Kosovo Democratic Initiative, an ethnic Albanian politic=
al party
opposed to the KLA's fight for independence, is distributing relief aid,
offering membership cards and gathering the names of Serbs accused of
committing atrocities.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0"As an Albanian, I am convinced that the Serbian government =
and
security forces are not committing any kind of genocide," Fatmir Seholi, th=
e
party's spokesman, said in an interview Sunday.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0"But in a war, even innocent people die," Seholi said. "In e=
very war,
there are those who want to profit. Here there is a minority of people who
wanted to steal, but that's not genocide. These are only crimes."
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0As an Albanian, Seholi also knows the risks of questioning c=
laims that
Yugoslavia's leaders, police and military are committing crimes against
humanity in Kosovo.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0His father, Malic Seholi, was killed Jan. 9, 1997, apparentl=
y for being
too cooperative with Serbian authorities. The KLA later claimed
responsibility for the slaying in a statement published in Bujku, a local
Albanian-language newspaper, his son said.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0There are pressures to toe the party line in villages like S=
vetlje too,
where a man who overheard Velia speaking with a Serbian correspondent for
Agence France-Presse told him to stop.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0"Don't talk to the Serbs," the man said angrily in Albanian. =
"They are
to blame for everything that is happening."
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Velia, his wife, Hajiri, their three children and his mother=
, Farita,
56, were among as many as 100,000 Kosovo Albanians who fled the northern
city of Podujevo in the early days of NATO's air war.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Some said Serbs drove them from their homes, while others sa=
id they
were simply scared and left on their own. But they all ended up moving from
one village to another, trying to escape fighting between KLA guerrillas an=
d
Serbian security forces.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Now they must live with another danger--the NATO bombs that =
fall ever
closer to Svetlje as the alliance intensifies its attacks on Yugoslav force=
s
across Kosovo.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Last week, a bomb exploded just 200 yards from the five-room =
school
that currently houses about 60 refugees. The explosion killed an ethnic
Albanian man named Bashota, who was about 22 years old and from nearby
Lapastica, Velia said.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0When the foreign visitor asked Velia whether he thought NATO=
's bombing
was helping or hurting, he shifted at the wooden desk where he was sitting
in one of the school's classrooms.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0"My blood is the same as yours," he said. "I just want the s=
ituation
stabilized. People are not very interested in what is going on with big
[political] discussions here and there. They are just interested in going
home."
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Despite the mass exodus of Kosovo Albanians during the NATO =
bombing,
several hundred thousand remain in the province, many of them still hiding
without proper food, medicine and shelter.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0After waves of looting, arson, killings and other attacks tu=
rned many
of Kosovo's cities into virtual ghost towns, the government took steps to
restore order, and ethnic Albanians began to move back, often under police
protection.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Of an estimated 100,000 people living in Pristina, roughly 8=
0,000 are
ethnic Albanians and a quarter of those are displaced people from the
Podujevo area living with relatives, friends or in abandoned homes, Seholi
said.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0An additional 32,000 ethnic Albanians are living in and arou=
nd Podujevo
itself, he added.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0A total of 120,000 ethnic Albanians are waiting to return to =
their
homes in four areas--near Podujevo, Pristina, Stimlje and Prizren--while
another 350,000 have proper homes, Seholi estimated.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Home for Zajda Hasani, 76, and 10 others in her family is a =
classroom
and an adjoining storage room, where the shelves are stacked with books by
writers such as Twain and Tolstoy.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0"I have no problems at all," Hasani said between long draws =
on a
cigarette. "I'm relaxed."
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0In Svetlje, the biggest problem is getting enough to eat. No=
ne of the
foreign relief agencies delivering food to refugees outside Kosovo has been
able to come to feed those ethnic Albanians left behind.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Agencies such as the Office of the U.N. High Commissioner fo=
r Refugees
are negotiating with Yugoslav authorities about security guarantees and
other matters as a prelude to resuming work in Kosovo.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0On Friday, the International Committee of the Red Cross sent =
a
four-truck convoy carrying medicine, food and other relief, the first
shipment since NATO launched the air war March 24.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0It wasn't nearly enough to feed the tens of thousands who ar=
e going
hungry. The last aid Velia's family received was from the Yugoslav Red
Cross, which gave them 41=8E2 pounds of flour and some yeast a month ago.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Like many of the children in Svetlje, Velia's 7-month-old da=
ughter,
Erinisa, is sick. The baby has received four injections but needs six more.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Her mother has to line up with other refugees at the edge of =
Podujevo
for police permission to enter the town and visit the hospital.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0The refugees have started a small, roadside market in Svetlj=
e that
sells pasta, coffee, onions, rubber sandals, cigarettes and a few other
assorted items. But in the absence of any jobs, few people can afford to bu=
y
much.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0"The entire day, we just sit here or walk and wander around,=
" Velia
said. Although no one in Svetlje has been forced to work for the police or
military, "Who knows what may happen tomorrow?" he added.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Just a few minutes' walk away, there was a horrible reminder =
of just
how uncertain the future is.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0It was a human skull, partly charred by fire. It lay in the =
grass
outside a one-story building where refugees once were sheltered in about
half a dozen rooms that were previously municipal offices.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0The floors were covered with hay, where families slept, and =
the clothes
and other belongings they left behind were scattered everywhere.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0A single, burned corpse lay in the middle of one room, not p=
roof of
genocide, but a hint of the dark mystery that is Kosovo.
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Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 22:07:40 EDT
From: DavidMcR@aol.com
Subject: (abolition-usa) Column On Madeleine Albright
Subj: Column On Madeleine Albright
Date: 5/18/99 2:45:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time
From: jbcafsc@igc.org (Jennifer Bing-Canar, Chicago AFSC)
To: ccook25@hotmail.com
A very interesting column by Steve Chapman in Thursday's Tribune . . .
>
> WHO SHOULD BEAR THE BLAME FOR "MADELEINE'S WAR"?
> Steve Chapman
> Chicago Tribune
> May 13, 1999
>
>Madeleine Albright strikes a Churchillian pose on the cover of this week's
>Time magazine,
>swathed in a leather bomber jacket, steely eyes staring into the distance,
>uttering what are
>doubtless tough words into a cell phone. But "Churchillian" would not be a
>term of praise today
>if the British prime minister had handled his job as poorly as she has hers.
>She may take pride in the fact that the air assault on Yugoslavia is now
>known as "Madeleine's
>War." But even by the standards of moralistic interventionists, Kosovo has
>been an unmitigated
>debacle. So why shouldn't Albright be held accountable for the mess?
>Maybe because the real fault lies with Bill Clinton. He makes the final
>decisions, and he has
>responsibility for them, regardless of what his subordinates tell him. But
>in our system,
>presidents don't resign whenever they screw up. So the least the American
>people should ask is
>that Clinton get rid of the advisers who talked him into this war,
>starting with his secretary of
>state.
>Canning Cabinet officers for ineptitude and poor judgment is hardly
>unprecedented. Clinton fired
>Defense Secretary Les Aspin largely because he refused to reinforce our
>troops in Somalia in
>the weeks before a bloody firefight in Mogadishu that killed 18 American
>soldiers. Unhappy with
>their performance, Jimmy Carter sacked four Cabinet officers at once in
1979.
>Albright's mistake on Kosovo was not an isolated lapse of judgment but a
>blunder growing out
>of her entire approach to foreign policy - a combination of moralism,
>arrogance and boundless
>faith in military solutions. She sees every foreign policy problem as a
>rerun of World War II, with
>America obliged to choose between shameful appeasement of evildoers and
>courageous armed
>resistance.Her policymaking is a version of "Jeopardy" in which the answer
>is always "U.S.
>military intervention." Only the questions change.
>We got into a war we were not prepared to fight simply because Albright
>grossly misjudged
>Slobodan Milosevic. "As we contemplated the use of force over the past 14
>months, we
>constructed four different models," a senior administration official told
>the Washington Post last
>month. "One was that the whiff of gunpowder, just the threat of force,
>would make [Milosevic]
>back down. Another was that he needed to take some hit to justify
>acquiescence. Another was
>that he was a playground bully who would fight but back off after a punch
>in the nose. And the
>fourth was that he would react like Saddam Hussein" and refuse to yield.
>But the fourth
>scenario, when it materialized, came as a shock to the administration.
>So did the brutal campaign of Serbian ethnic cleansing that followed the
>onset of the war. The
>administration insists it wasn't surprised, but a high-ranking official
>tells Newsweek, "Anyone
>who says that we expected the kind of refugee flows that we saw is smoking
>something."
>Albright can be grateful that the Kosovo crisis distracts from her other
>foreign policy foul-ups -
>such as the bombing last August of a pharmaceutical plant in Sudan. The
>unnoticed recent
>news is that the Treasury Department released $24 million dollars in bank
>deposits belonging to
>the owner of the plant - admitting, in effect, that contrary to the
>administration's past charges,
>he had no connection to Islamic militant Osama bin Laden.
>The president and his aides have yet to acknowledge something even more
>embarrassing:
>There is no convincing evidence that the plant was used to make chemical
>weapons, as they
>claimed. After the attack, a Pentagon official lamented Albright's view of
>force as a first resort.
>"Madeleine is willing to fire a missile at anybody," he told the New
>Yorker, an impulse that has
>not subsided in the intervening months.
>She makes much of the lessons of Munich, while ignoring more recent
>experience. Eight years'
>use of air power has failed to budge Saddam Hussein - even as economic
>sanctions have killed
>hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis. But no one in the administration
>has drawn the
>obvious conclusion that we ought to try something different, in Iraq or
>anywhere else.
>Albright's relentlessly aggressive approach has earned the U.S. the
>worldwide reputation as a
>rogue superpower, bent on forcing every other country to do things our way
>or else be bombed.
>Maybe the Chinese people refuse to believe that the destruction of their
>embassy in Belgrade
>was an accident because we've bombed so many enemies on purpose.
>Hectoring and bombing are about the only things Albright knows how to do.
>That's one big
>reason America's reputation and influence have declined every year she has
>stayed in office.
>And it explains why Warren Christopher never looked so good.
>
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Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 23:45:11 -0700
From: "David Crockett Williams" <gear2000@lightspeed.net>
Subject: (abolition-usa) Russian Warns One Big EMP Could Cripple America
From: Carol Moore <CarolMoore@kreative.net>
To: Y2K-Nukes List <Y2K-NUKES@envirolink.org>
Subject: Russian Warns One Big EMP Could Cripple America
Date: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 10:42 PM
On May 18th I attended the Cato Institute's day long conference "NATO's
Balkan War." The ten presenters generally agreed that the US and NATO
had blundered into an illegal and counterproductive war. They only
disagreed about the fastest and least costly and humilitiating way of
getting out of it. (And at least one libertarian panelist seemed open
to a humilitating exit, if it would teach the US and NATO not to aggress
again.)
Our luncheon speaker was Representative Kurt Weldon (R-PA) who led an
early May delegation of U.S. congressional representatives to meet with
members of the Russian State Duma to discuss ways to end the US-NATO
bombings. Weldon repeatedly expressed the opinion that President
Clinton wants the bombings to continue for irrational reasons which are
unclear to his congressional critics.
During the question period, I asked Weldon, "Given the weakness of the
Russian missile alert system, especially with probable year 2000
computer problems, and the irrationality of both President Clinton and
President Yeltsin, who already several times has threatened nuclear war
over the bombings, what do you consider to be the percentage chance of
nuclear war in the next 12 months." (My question and his reponse were
the first and only reference to nuclear war during the conference,
except for one panelist's sarcastic comment about using nuclear weapons
against Belgrade.)
Weldon said (somewhat paraphrased): "This is why we in Congress are
working so hard and doing our own negotiations. We are worried about
the Russian nuclear safety issues. We are worried about the possibility
of nuclear war over the instabilities this war has caused. In fact, I
have a story to tell. When the eleven members of our congressional
delegation were sitting there with the members of the Russian Duma,
Chairman of the Russian State Duma Foreign Policy Committee, Vladimir
Lukin, warned the Americans, 'You have to understand that if we want to
cause you a problem over this, we could. Someone, we don't know who,
could send up a missile from a ship or a submarine and detonate a
nuclear weapon high over the United States. The EMP (electromagenetic
pulse) would take away all your capability.'** So we in Congress take
this whole situation very very seriously."
This warning is even more direct and threatening than President Yeltin's
several warnings that the bombing of Yugoslavia could eventually lead to
World War Three or that Russian would massively retaliate should one US
bomb stray into it's territory.
**Note: an electromagnetic pulse from a high detonated nuclear weapon
could burn out most unprotected electrical and electronic equipment,
unprotected computers, solid state electrical components of aircraft,
modern autos, trucks, tractors and most consumer equipment and
effectively bring America to a halt.
Check out my article "Four Reasons We May See Nuclear War in 1999"
http://www.kreative.net/carolmoore/4-reasons-nuke-war.html
Also, photos from recent D.C. demonstrations against War in the Balkans
Http://www.kreative.net/carolmoore/balkans-photos.html
Http://www.kreative.net/carolmoore/war-tax-resisters.html
Carol Moore in D.C.
=====================
Sign on to worldwide moment of silence for peace in the Balkans, May 24
http://www.momentofsilence.org
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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 14:15:16 EDT
From: DavidMcR@aol.com
Subject: (abolition-usa) Sunday NY Times Op Ed / 5.16
In a message dated 5/19/99 12:47:21 AM Eastern Daylight Time, DavidMcR writes:
<< Subj: Sunday NY Times Op Ed / 5.16
May I call your attention to Owen Harries chilling - and in my view accurate
- - assessment of the Kosovo/NATO mess on the Op Ed page. It follows out my own
thinking, (which, of course, is why I think it so good!) and takes note of
the shift toward a new Russian/Chinese entente which the Clinton policy has
made inevitable.
If you still have the Sunday edition, I think this is one of the best and
hardest bits of analysis I've seen.
Peace,
David
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Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 23:44:30 -0700
From: "David Crockett Williams" <gear2000@lightspeed.net>
Subject: (abolition-usa) Five Russian Threats of Nuke War
From: Carol Moore <CarolMoore@kreative.net>
To: Peace list from <carolmoore@kreative.net>
Subject: Five Russian Threats of Nuke War
Date: Wednesday, May 19, 1999 9:54 PM
Why we must stop this war now!!
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
=93I told NATO, the Americans, the Germans: Don't push us toward military
action. Otherwise there will be a European war for sure and possibly
world war.'' Russian President Boris Yeltsin, April 6, 1999 (Reuters)
"In the event that NATO and America start a ground operation in
Yugoslavia, they will face a second Vietnam,I do not want to forecast
what is going to start then. I cannot rule out a third world war.''
Moscow Mayor Yuri Luzhkov, April 17, 1999 (Associated Press)
"If NATO goes from air force to ground force it will be a world
catastrophe. (Russia) has never felt such anti-Western, anti-European
feelings,"First Deputy Russian Prime Minister Anatoly Chubais, April 25,
1999. (Reuters)
=93You have to understand that if we want to cause you a problem over
this, we could. Someone, we don't know who, could send up a missile
from a ship or a submarine and detonate a nuclear weapon high over the
United States. The EMP (electromagenetic pulse that destroys electronic
and computer equipment) would take away all your capability.=94 Vladimir
Lukin, Chairman of the Russian State Duma Foreign Policy Committee, late
April, 1999 (Rep. Kurt Weldon in May 18, 1999 speech.)
=93Just let Clinton, a little bit, accidentally, send a missile. We wil=
l
answer immediately. Such impudence! To unleash a war on a sovereign
state. Without Security Council. Without United Nations. It could
only be possible in a time of barbarism.=94 Boris Yeltsin, May 7, 1999
(Washington Post)
=3D=3D=3D
Carol Moore in D.C.
http://www.kreative.net/C&C-news.html
=08=07
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Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 11:26:51 -0700
From: "David Crockett Williams" <gear2000@lightspeed.net>
Subject: (abolition-usa) Belgrade Maps may prove Chinese Embassy targeting not a mistake
Old Belgrade maps question NATO's excuse for targeting Chinese Embassy.
http://www.stratfor.com/crisis/kosovo/specialreports/special67.htm
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Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 14:51:03 -0400
From: ASlater <aslater@gracelinks.org>
Subject: (abolition-usa) Fwd: The Greeks: Verdict against NATO
>Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 09:49:51 -0400
>Subject: The Greeks: Verdict against NATO
>Priority: non-urgent
>X-FC-MachineGenerated: true
>To: abolition@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca, cnanw@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca
>X-FC-Forwarded-From: delong@nucleus.com
>From: abolition@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (abolition@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca)
>
>Thanks go to Robin Collins of UNA for finding this rather amazing item!
>Bev
> "http://www.zmag.org/judges.htm"
>
>JUDGES=92 BOMBSHELL =ABVERDICT=BB AGAINST NATO
>
>Twenty members of the Council of State (Greece=92s supreme
>administrative court) have issued a statement deploring the
>international crimes against Yugoslavia, which inaugurate a =ABperiod of
>lawlessness=BB and bring us back to the =ABeras of the Holy Alliance and
>the Axis=BB
>
>NATO was found guilty of an unprecedented and barbaric attack
>against Yugoslavia in a statement signed by 20 high-ranking judges of
>the Greek Council of State, headed by its most senior vice-president
>Michalis Dekleris.
>
>In this important statement, the judges condemn the NATO bombardments,
>denounce the international crimes being committed by the NATO
>countries through this armed attack, and warn that any law passed
>deciding to involve Greece in this war will constitute a gross
>violation of the Constitution.
>
>For the first time since the bombing began, Greek judges have taken a
>stand and, citing legal arguments, point out that the NATO offensive
>against Yugoslavia has inaugurated a period of lawlessness in
>international relations, bringing us back to the eras of the Holy
>Alliance and the Axis. In fact, they pointed out that =ABthis attack is
>accompanied by the revival of black propaganda that attempts to
>exploit the misfortunes of the refugees to draw public attention
>away from the violation of international law.=BB
>
>Following is the full text of the statement:
>
>1. NATO=92s offensive against a sovereign European state, unprecedented in
>the post-war years, is an affront not only to the ethical principles
>of Greek and European civilisation, but also to the fundamental
>precepts of international law. This latter is a legal issue and should
>not be overshadowed by the moral revulsion that is justly provoked by
>this cowardly and barbaric attack. On the contrary, this issue is of
>primary importance and must be clarified in particular by those who
>have a competent opinion about the Law, since their duty is to serve
>it.
>
>2. This inexcusable attack is taking place in flagrant violation of
>articles 1 and 2 of the United Nations Charter, which expressly
>prohibits the use of violence in international relations, and
>designates the Security Council (article 41 ff.) exclusively competent
>in international crises. According to these provisions, but also to
>the generally recognised precepts of international law, there is no
>room for self-appointed crisis managers, nor is it permitted, on any
>pretext whatsoever, for third countries to intervene in the internal
>affairs of a sovereign state.
>
>3. But this attack even violates the NATO Charter, the exclusive purpose
>of which is collective defence of the area defined therein that
>coincides with the boundaries of its member states, and which has
>expressly committed itself in its international relations to refrain
>from the threat or use of violence in any way whatsoever that is
>incompatible with the principles and purposes of the UN (article 1).
>That is, by its own Charter, NATO has been placed under the rule of
>the UN Charter. And it could not have been otherwise, since no
>international organisation or alliance can be placed above the United
>Nations.
>
>4. In addition, both the United Nations Charter and all generally
>recognised precepts of international law safeguard the equality and
>sovereignty of all peoples, irrespective of their numbers and power,
>and do not recognise any jurisdiction on the part of powerful nations
>to intervene in the internal affairs of weaker nations or to dictate
>solutions to their own liking. Consequently, however serious the
>crisis in Kosovo may be, it remains an internal Yugoslav affair and
>belongs to the exclusive jurisdiction of the sovereign Yugoslav state.
>Any humanitarian or other interest on the part of the UN, other
>international organisations or third countries may be manifested only in
>a peaceful way and by diplomatic means within the context of the UN
>Charter.
>
>5. And, in this case, the United Nations, respecting these restrictions,
>remained within its jurisdiction, recommending to the lawful
>government of Yugoslavia that they fulfil their obligations (Security
>Council resolutions No 1160/31.3.1998 and 1199/23.9.1998). But behind
>the scenes, the NATO military alliance appeared in a self-appointed
>role, and without having =AD nor could it have had =AD any competence to
>become involved in this matter, having first dictated an insolent
>ultimatum disputing the very sovereignty of Yugoslavia, then launched
>an aggressive war against this state, demanding that it conform to
>NATO demands. This attack is accompanied by the revival of dark
>propaganda that attempts to exploit the misery of the refugees to draw
>public attention away from the violation of international law.
>
>6. The legal significance of these actions should not be concealed nor
>underestimated. By their armed attack, the NATO countries are
>committing the following international crimes, in accordance with the
>charter being drafted for the International Criminal Court, which
>refers to the Geneva Conventions dated 12 August 1949 (UN Doc.
>A/CONF/183/9) and in particular: a) the crime of waging an offensive
>war, with the violent destruction of human life, cultural monuments
>and entire settlements, b) the crime of genocide by the deliberate
>destruction of the infrastructure of the Serbian community and the
>creation in it of conditions that lead to its physical annihilation,
>and c) the crime of ecological destruction by the use of military
>technology that causes damage to people=92s health and to the natural
>environment, a crime also committed against third countries to which
>deadly pollution is carried.
>
>7. During the recent Washington summit, the leadership of the attacking
>NATO countries tried to amend the provisions of its Charter to make it
>autonomous in continuing the attack on Yugoslavia, and also with
>regard to its plans for the future in carrying out so-called
>peace-making and humanitarian interventions under the pretext of =ABcrisis
> management=BB! It tried in vain. The only valid crisis management,
>according to international law, remains as ever the UN. And no other
>organisation that is by definition inferior to it can remove or usurp
>this role. NATO cannot abolish international law nor can it produce
>new, generally recognised precepts of international legality. Its new
>Charter affects only the governments that signed it. And even if it is
>ratified by the national Parliaments of its member states, it will
>declare the intentions of just 19 out of a total of 158 states on the
>planet. The remaining states will not tolerate the falsification or
>mockery of international law. They reject the theory that might is
>right, whether overt or disguised. And small states like Greece will
>be in danger if they relinquish rights which have been undisputed for
>centuries. The truth is that NATO=92s attack on Yugoslavia inaugurates a
>period of lawlessness in international relations. We are returning to
>the era of the Holy Alliance and the Axis, against which humanity, and
>the Greeks in particular, fought with such great sacrifices.
>
>8. Having become involved in this crisis Greece has no option other than
>to do what its culture and Constitution dictate, namely to follow the
>generally recognised precepts of international law, to seek the
>consolidation of peace, and to use its armed forces only for defensive
>purposes (article 2 para 2 and article 4 para 6 of the Constitution). In
>the light of these provisions of the Constitution of the Hellenic
>State and the provisions of the United Nations Charter, it is possible
>to interpret the provisions of articles 27 para 2 and 28 para 3 of the
>Constitution, which after a special law is passed, make it possible
>for foreign troops to sojourn in or travel across the Hellenic State or
>for national sovereignty to be restricted. These provisions could,
>however, be implemented only with respect to the participation of
>Greece in a defensive war, and not to facilitate an attack against a
>third state. Consequently, the involvement of Greece in this on-going
>war against Yugoslavia cannot be decided upon even by law because such
>a law would be totally unconstitutional.
>
>In addition to Mr. Dekleris, this statement was signed by the following
>Council of State members: St. Sarivalasis, Ioanna Mari, Dim.
>Kostopoulos, Evdoxia Galanou, Sot. Rizos, Pan. Pikrammenos, Nik.
>Sakellariou, Th. Papaevangellou, Nik. Rozos, Dion. Marinakis, St.
>Haralambos and associate judges Maria Karamanov, Ekaterini
>Christoforidou, I. Kapelousos, Dim. Alexandris, Eleni
>Anagnostopoulou, Euth. Antonopoulos, Varvara Kapitsi, Theo.
>Aravanis.
> =20
Alice Slater
Global Resource Action Center for the Environment (GRACE)
15 East 26th Street, Room 915
New York, NY 10010
tel: (212) 726-9161
fax: (212) 726-9160
email: aslater@gracelinks.org
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