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From: "Chris J. DiBona" <[e-mail]>
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I'd say talk to rick moen, at [e-mail], he's the force behind
this.

 Chris

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On Thu, 21 Jan 1999, Robert McMillan wrote:

> Hey Chris,
>
> Saw your name on a BALUG nametag the other night, but missed you there. You
> didn't miss much, just a sales guy from Corel NOT telling us that the
> computer division was about to be acquired.
>
> Anyhow, this magazine (below) sent out a special email alert this morning,
> mentioning SVLUG and the windows rebate.  We've got a writer working on this
> story.
>
> I wonder if you (as VP of SVLUG) or someone from SVLUG would be interested
> in talking with him about this? His name is Daniel Dern, and I've CCd him on
> this email.
>
> Bob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
> To: [e-mail] <[e-mail]>
> Date: Thursday, January 21, 1999 3:49 AM
> Subject: Client Server News 20 1999,
>
>
> >                  ----------------------------
> >                 |  CLIENT SERVER NEWSFLASH   |
> >                  ----------------------------
> >
> >
> >01. Linux Agitators Want Windows Refunds
> >
> >
> >
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> >                  New York, January 20 1999
> >                      Issue Number 283a
> >
> >+             Linux Agitators Want Windows Refunds
> >
> >Wednesday, January 20, 1999 - News of the Australian Linux
> >devotee who managed to wangle a refund for the unused copy of
> >Windows 95 that came with a Toshiba laptop has snowballed
> >overnight into plans for a march on Microsoft's Foster City,
> >California office by people demanding their money back.
> >
> >Members of the Silicon Valley Linux Users Group (SVLUG) have
> >set February 15 for the march, dubbing it "Windows Refund Day."
> >They're hoping to get hundreds of users of Linux and other
> >non-Microsoft operating systems to show up waving unopened
> >copies of the Windows CDs that shipped with their PCs all
> >demanding refunds. Quite a little photo op.
> >
> >The idea has already spawned a web site dubbed the Windows
> >Refund Center, hosted by a pro-Linux site called thenoodle.com,
> >and an e-mail bulletin called the Windows Refund Newsletter
> >that the noodle is about to launch. Almost 700 people had
> >signed up for the free e-mail bulletin within 24 hours of its
> >creation late Tuesday. Thenoodle also suggests that BSD, BeOS,
> >OS/2 and NetWare users could demand refunds if they never used
> >the copy of Windows that came with their computers.
> >
> >The catalyst behind the rebellion is Geoffrey Bennett, a
> >computer systems manager at NetCraft Australia in charge of the
> >company's Linux sales and consulting staff. After much
> >hassling, Bennett got a refund for the copy of Windows that
> >came with a laptop he finally bought after futile attempts to
> >buy the machine without the Windows operating system. He says
> >it took six months of arguing with Toshiba, but he finally got
> >his check in August. The story surfaced in the past few days,
> >setting off a furor in the Linux community, whose members have
> >long complained of their inability to buy Intel-based PCs
> >without Windows and have pondered how to make their case.
> >
> >In the call to march posted on a SVLUG member site called
> >linuxmafia.com, there is a detailed checklist of what is
> >thought to be needed to demand a Windows refund. First is that
> >the envelope containing Windows has to be unopened. It also
> >warns folks to dig up copies of their invoices, Windows
> >end-user license agreements (EULAs), Linux disks and
> >documentation such as printouts of disk drive partition tables
> >to prove they're not running Windows.
> >
> >Meanwhile, Linux newsgroups are chattering over how, if
> >Microsoft refunds their money, the exercise could reveal how
> >much each OEM pays Redmond for Windows. In theory, at least,
> >any refund due a user should amount to the portion of the total
> >cost of the system Windows represents. Microsoft has labored
> >mightily to keep the exact price that different OEMs pay for
> >Windows secret. Last week at its antitrust trial it got Judge
> >Thomas Penfield Jackson to agree to keep the data under seal.
> >
> >- Stuart Zipper
> >
> >
> >
>