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Here are Our Loony Ideas.

Changes since last issue:

Erica Sadun and Timothy Breuning have added to their ideas.

Adrisdad (Arthur Kleiman), Andrea Lynn Leistra, Jared Feehan, John Mann,
Michael Gonzalez, Michael Sullivan, and Paul Khangure have added their
ideas.

Some spelling mistakes have been corrected, and abbreviations expanded
to full words.

Here is the compilation of our loony ideas.  Enjoy, and always remember
our motto:
  I of course have zero evidence for this, but since when has that stopped
  any of us?                                  (David Wren-Hardin)

Aaron Bergman <[e-mail]>
  Siuan and Leane have some power relating to saidin based on the fact that
  they were healed in the manner of men.

Adrisdad, aka Arthur Kleiman <[e-mail]>
  Nynaeve will never lose her block. It is all that is protecting her from
  being corrupted by too much power and becoming a new forsaken. When the
  need arises she will be mad enough to channel.

Alexei Svensson
  Rand will bond Elayne as his warder.

  Mat will sound the Horn again, and Arthur Hawkwing will command the
  Seanchan to follow Rand.

  The Salidar Aes Sedai will strike a deal with the Asha'man to take over
  the White Tower in return for their allegiance.

  Lews Theren will somehow split with Rand and marry Elayne, and Rand will
  accept Aiel ways and marry Aviendha and Min.

Andrea Lynn Leistra <[e-mail]>
  Lews Therin's soul was somehow trapped in the Seals after his death.  This
  is why he started showing up after several seals had been broken, and why
  he wants Rand to break the remaining seals; the more that are broken, the
  more power has and the better chance he has of gaining control over Rand's
  body.

Andrew Toth <[e-mail]>
  The Dark One does not want to take over the world.  He will sabotage his
  own world conquest when the time is right.  The only reason he bothers is
  strictly for the entertainment value.  He enjoys the constant fighting
  between the Forsaken and taking over the world would end his enjoyment.

  A gholam killed Asmodean.

Angela Furry <[e-mail]>
  Demandred is in Amador among the Whitecloaks.

Benedict Walmisley <[e-mail]>
  Rand's wound is a inverted weave produced by Ba'alzamon's ter'angreal
  staff.

Bill Garrett <[e-mail]>
  Herid Fel was killed not because he had stumbled onto a truth about
  the Seals and the Dark One, but because he was barking up the wrong
  tree.  The Shadow killed him conspicuously to make people think he was
  headed in the right direction.  If the Shadow had wanted to kill Fel
  and hide the truth, it could have arranged any number of inconspicuous
  deaths.... Clumsy Fel trips down the stairs and breaks his neck.
  Eccentric Fel goes on one of his long walks and simply never returns.
  Aging Fel dies quietly in his sleep.  Everyone thought his ideas were
  nutty, so killing him and stamping "The Shadow done it" all over the
  murder just draws attention to, and validates, what he was working on.

Bjorn Christianson <[e-mail]>
  Berelain is a Darkfriend:  she turned to the Dark in hopes of keeping
  Mayene from being overcome by Tear.  She was responsible for giving the
  Shadow the information that led the assassination of Herid Fel.  The man
  in white in Berelain's future is Galad, and this will lead a great personal
  crisis for Galad:  turn in the Darkfriend, as is his sworn duty as a
  Whitecloak, or save his true love.

Brad M. Lauchnor <[e-mail]>
  The "end" will involve Rand destroying the DO and the "Wheel of Time"
  making it into the line of time. Time will be linear and no one will be
  reborn and all of these annoying recurrences will cease.  When the WoT is
  destroyed Rand (the Dragon) will die but Rand (the farmer) will live
  without those vexing voices in his head. Saidin and Saidar will also be
  destroyed in this process.

Bryan Ecker <[e-mail]>
  After Rand looses his hand, Nynaeve will heal it back.  After all, "What
  makes a woman able to channel cannot be replaced, once it is removed, any
  more than a hand that has been cut off can be healed back into existence."

Burr Rutledge<[e-mail]>
  The ageless look of AS is a function of the Oath Rod.  Siuan and Leane
  will not regain their look until they reswear their Oaths.  By the same
  token, Nynaeve, Egwene, and Elayne will not get it until they swear their
  Oaths (if they ever do).  All channelers who do not take the Oaths remain
  young-looking until they die.  The Oath Rod also shortens a channeler's
  life span.

  Verin Sedai is not as spooky a character as she is given credit for.  Her
  slip, "Moiraine sent me," is not a lie.  Instead, it is Verin's interpre-
  tation of the conversation in Fal Dara.  Further, she has no way around
  the Oaths, she is just a Very Smart and Old Brown.

  Liah will return to the limelight, fulfilling a prophesy already revealed
  in LoC -- she is the 'one who is no longer'.

  Fully Healing a stilled channeler does not require cross-gender Healing.
  It is a function of which flows are used to bridge the void.  Nynaeve will
  have to heal a stilled Moiraine, who is rescued from *finnland by Thom
  (with no help from anyone else), and will discover how to heal her fully.

  Two people who enter the *finnland Doorways together will not end up at
  the same place in *finnland, keeping Thom from taking anyone along.

  The *finn live in worlds which run perpendicular to the time line in
  Randland, as described by Verin.  This is what allows them to search a
  life-line of a Randlander -- it is not looking into their own past or
  future.  This is important to Thom's rescue attempt and was part of the
  letter that Moiraine sent to him.

  Semirhage has placed herself in Saldaea.

Chris R. Anderson <[e-mail]>
  Nynaeve will never break her block.  At least, not before Tarmon Gai'don.

Chris Benham <[e-mail]> wrote:
  Rand will be killed at Shayol Ghul during Tarmon Gai'don, and it will be
  Egwene that kills him.

Courtenay Footman <[e-mail]>
  Mesaana is the architect for the palace Elaida is building.

Dave Hemming <[e-mail]>
  Logain will become Nae'blis (glory to come).

  Taim is Demandred, but will return to the Light - "There are none so far
  in the Shadow...".

  The bore is a tied-off inverted weave of both saidar and saidin (Lanfear
  and Beidomon) which is why the Hundred Companions (all male) couldn't
  undo it, merely cover it. The grand finale will feature Rand and probably
  Nynaeve undoing it.

Dave Rothgery <[e-mail]>
  The Red Ajah is a dreadlord recruitment agency, finding men who can
  channel and bringing them to the dark.  Those who refuse (like Owyn)
  are gentled or killed unless 13 black sisters and 13 myrddraal are
  available.  Elaida is one of the few Reds who doesn't know this, as she
  spent so much time in Caemlyn, not Tar Valon, and isn't Black Ajah.

David Matsumoto <[e-mail]>
  Davram Bashere's wolf-headed rod, seen when we first meet him, and which
  is actually one of the Nine Rods of Dominion, is passed to Perrin as an
  heirloom.  Perrin will be able to use it to call wolves from tel'aran'-
  rhiod in a manner similar to the Horn of Valere calling the Heros of the
  Horn.  When Perrin uses the rod at Tarmon Gai'don, he will be nearly
  knocked back by thousands of wolves' responding "We come, Brother".

  Nynaeve will never break her block.  Egwene will be the one who uses the
  female statue sa'angreal while linked to Rand using the male statue
  sa'angreal at Tarmon Gai'don as Egwene is the only channeler that Rand
  can truly trust.

  The traps around Callandor are to prevent anyone from channeling it
  out.  The one who comes after just has to grab it and pull, and it will
  just come out.  (Slightly different from Hawk's).

  The weather can be restored by the bowl ter'angreal but to keep the
  weather 'normal' without repeated use of the bowl ter'angreal, a way to
  restore the Green Man will need to be found.

  Before Rand can face the DO at Tarmon Gai'don, after all of the Forsaken
  are killed (all reincarnations of them), Rand will have to face his MOST
  dangerous opponent, Padan Fain.

Dennis Higbee <[e-mail]>
  Lanfear is the soul reincarnated in Shaidar Haran.  The clue is the
  'dar' which denotes sister in the word Shaidar.

Don Lowe <[e-mail]>
  Lanfear, who will have taken back her name Mirien, and Lews Therin will
  make the ultimate sacrifice, resealing the Dark One's prison with their
  souls.  Rand will survive, and the prophecy that "to live [Rand], he
  [Lews Therin] must die" will be fulfilled.

Donald Ruhrmund <[e-mail]>
  The seal given to Rand is a fake.  There is still a seal out there
  missing.  Furthermore, to defeat the DO Rand must break the seals, but
  not allow them all to be broken through mano a mano fights with the
  Forsaken as the first four were.

Draconnis, aka Govind Salinas <[e-mail]>
  Machin Shin is from Shadar Logoth.  (It popped up after Mordeth and it
  felt a connection with Mordeth/Fain, and it took orders from him.  It
  also has nothing against killing Shadowspawn or Darkfriends just like the
  entities at Shadar Logoth.  There is a Waygate at Shadar Logoth through
  which it could have entered.)

Dylan Flynn Alexander  <[e-mail]>
  Davram Bashere is a darkfriend. He treats Rand much as Kadere did.  He's
  secretly been passing Rand's grand strategy to Sammael and when Rand
  tries it he'll be defeated in detail.

Edward Hardy wrote: <[e-mail]>
  Just as Trollocs were created by the blending of human and animal stock,
  with myrddraal being throwbacks to the original human stock, Ogier were
  also mixed with animals.  Shaidar Haran is a throwback of an Ogier-animal
  cross.  His size and his ability to negate the one power as if it never
  existed, an ability akin to the power of a stedding, illustrate the
  affinity.

Eric Truong <[e-mail]>
  Gaidal Cain's and Lews Therin's souls were not reborn into Olver and
  Rand until or just prior to Mat and Moiraine, respectively, meeting them.
  However,  Olver and Rand were always predestined to house those souls

Erica Sadun <[e-mail]>
  "And he shall come out of the old land to guide the return.  And ye shall
  know him by his staff--and that the power of the leashed ones shalt be
  nothing to him. And she who is the daughter of the Nine Moons shalt come
  after him and ye shall know her by her crown of the hawk.  For he is marked
  by the Raven and she by the Hawk.  And she shall lead the return and all
  shall bow to him and revere him as Hawkwing returned."  Tales of Prophecy,
  Court of the Return, 4th Age.

  The Dark One is the source of Saidin.  So long as he contained in a pure
  dome, he acts as a battery for the male One Power.  Even with a hole in the
  dome, he is contained enough.  However, the patch disturbed the integrity
  of the dome and created bad harmonic resonance in the Saidin channel.
  How else would the GLotD have any affect on one of the springs of the One
  Power at all?

  There is a Light One on the other side of the world (in Seanchan?) who
  supplies Saidar. (GLotL?)

  Maybe Siuan and Leane are weaker than they once were because they were
  once "bound" like...criminals?

  Nynaeve will be collared when angry, but the a'dam won't work on her
  once she regains her temper and she'll be able to let herself out.

  [Editor's note, included at Erica's request:  If Nynaeve is collared,
   to get the collar off, she will have to think about the collar, which
   should make her angry again.  It seems to be like a "Don't think about
   elephants" problem.]

Fred White <[e-mail]>
  In much the way we have seen that people/personalities can be merged into
  one (Isam/Luc, Lews/Rand when Lews fights for control in tel'aran'rhiod)
  Rand will find a way (most likely with Egwene's help) to separate them.
  Thus, Lews and Rand will separate and Lews will indeed die at Shayol Ghul
  and Rand will survive.

George Oshry <[e-mail]>
  On the day of the Last Battle, Demandred and a female Forsaken will use
  the two large sa'angreal to balefire the whole world, themselves included.
  So much balefire, including balefiring the source, will have a different
  effect than normal.  It will not kill everyone, but instead will reset the
  whole day before the balefiring occurred.   This will be how the "twice
  dawns the day" prophecy will be fulfilled.

  Verin is the daughter of Aemon al Caar al Thorin, king of Manetheren,
  and Eldrene.  Verin, although over two thousand years old, is still
  alive because her mother hid her in tel'aran'rhiod (in the flesh, as
  well as in the spirit) to keep her safe from the invading Trolloc army,
  and didn't retrieve her.  Verin was only brought out by Corianin Nedeal,
  after about fifteen hundred years had passed, and did not age while she
  was in tel'aran'rhiod. Her 300+ age in real time now is due to effects of
  having spent so much time in TAR.

Hawk, aka Robyn Goldstein <[e-mail]>
  Callandor will be drawn out by someone else, but not by channeling, but
  by simply digging it out.  They will take it Rand for the Last Battle.

  The reason that Alanna was asking Egwene and Nynaeve about Rand, Perrin,
  and Mat during the trip to the White Tower was that Verin needed a
  confidant and someone who could help her out, so she told Alanna. The
  reason why Verin told Perrin to beware of Alanna in tSR was because
  Perrin (and the rest of them) tend to do the opposite of what you tell
  them, so by telling him that, Perrin would probably trust/talk with
  Alanna more than he would otherwise.

James Fauconbridge aka Faucon <Faucon <[e-mail]>
  The warder bond is actually bidirectional, with the stronger wielder of
  the One Power in charge.  This has simply never been an issue before, as
  no one has ever tried to bond a channeler before Alanna.  There is
  absolutely no proof that this is true, but I would love to see Elayne
  mistakenly bond herself as Rand's warder.

  The Dragon is the only soul that has *never* served the Dark One in any
  incarnation.  For the Dark One to truly win (break the wheel) it has to
  convert the Dragon.  If the Dragon dies, the wheel just turns to a new age.

  Entering tel'aran'rhiod in the flesh weakens the barriers between your
  presently incarnated personality and the archetypical soul that it was
  spun out from.  This is what the wise ones meant by "losing a part of
  what makes you human," and the reason the Rand has Lews Therin raving
  in his head.

Jan Hards <[e-mail]>
  Demandred is masquerading as Balwer, Pedron Niall's secretary.

Jared Feehan <[e-mail]>
  Mat and Elayne both get captured by the Seanchan at Ebou Dar while the
  rest of the group gets away.  Rand tries a covert attempt at breaking them
  out that goes awry, and he gets collared to Elayne forcing Mat to chop his
  hand off.

  Taim is Demandred, but not in the way others think it to be:  Demandred
  was killed and resurrected into Taim up in Shayol Ghul.

  Verin's 70 year plan ultimately has to do with Shadar Logoth, and she
  headed off to the Two Rivers in tSR because she knew that Fain was going
  to show up there.  Verin will therefore be instrumental in finally
  bringing Fain down.

  Ishamael started the Trolloc Wars with the intent of creating Shadar Logoth
  and hence Mashadar.  Mordeth was really a Darkfriend and charged by Ishy to
  help create the hate necessary for Aridhol's transformation into Shadar
  Logoth.  Why?  Because both Fain and Shadar Logoth are necessary for the
  Last Battle.

  Kari al'Thor was related to Morgase.

Jay Morrison <???>
  Bran al'Vere is a darkfriend.

Jeff Raglin <[e-mail]>
  Verin is Bonwhin.  A manipulative Aes Sedai who was stilled.  There are
  indications that Verin is free of the Oath Rod, and not as powerful as
  she once was, both of which are consistent with having been stilled.

  Mazrim Taim is Not Demandred, but Demandred is...Davram Bashere!

  The "Lews Therin" voice inside Rand is actually a forsaken talking to him.

  Rand is NOT the sea folk's Coramoor

Jen Skripac <[e-mail]>
  Mat, Elayne, and company will be forced to go to Seanchan to find the bowl
  ter'angreal after the *angreal treasure room is looted by Seanchan invading
  Ebou Dar.

  The Daughter of the Nine Moons will be discovered and "returned" by Mat
  and Thom when they enter the Tower of Genji in search of Moiraine.

  Nynaeve's block will be resolved by linking with Elayne to make the bowl
  ter'angreal work & suddenly having to take control of the link for some
  reason

Jim Harris  <[e-mail]>
  Rand will take a group of the tinkers/Tuatha'an to the crystal columns
  of Rhuidean.  There the tinkers will live through their ancestors' eyes
  and ears, hearing many ancient songs, including the songs that the
  Tuatha'an have been seeking.  when the final battle comes, the Tuatha'
  an will hold back the terrors of the Blight by singing the ancient songs
  and restoring normal vegetation to the ground that Rand's army must march
  across.  Ogier may or may not be involved in this song.

Joel, aka People Covered In Fish <[e-mail]>
  Rand will die at Tarmon Gai'don, whether or not he is separated from Lews
  Therin.  No wimpy endings.

  Mat is going to eventually seduce Elayne.  This provides the ironic
  counterpoint to Rand's "Far Snows" scene, and will make Rand's reunion
  with Elayne even more amusing.

  Taim is Demandred, but will turn to the Light just in time to decide the
  battle with Sammael in Rand's favor.

  The Dark One was the Creator.  In creating the world, he trapped himself
  in the Pattern/the Wheel of Time.  This limited his power to the extent
  that humanity was able to rebel and successfully seal him away.  When Rand
  finally discovers this, in his despair he will do his best to balefire the
  entire universe.
John Mann <[e-mail]>
  The book will encompass a total of 30 days (3 Randland weeks).

  Elayne, Aviendha and Min will never all be in the same city at the same time.

  The Seanchan will not be in more than two chapters.

  The Shaido will be dealt with once and for all.

  Rand will not be severed, split from Lews Therin, or have MPS.

  The Heros will not be called again by the Horn until after ACoS.

  Lan will suggest that Nynaeve cut her braid, and she will.

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Karl-Johan Noren <[e-mail]>
  Birgitte will become Elayne's First Prince of the Sword

  Sheriam is Black Ajah. When Egwene finds out, she quietly kills her and
  makes Sorilea the new Keeper

Keith Higginson <[e-mail]>
  A women without the ability to channel can use the sad bracelets.  (No
  channeling prerequisite is ever stated, and Nynaeve's statement to
  Egeanin "'It is as much an a'dam as you and I are alike, Egeanin'"
  <tSR, Revelations in Tanchico> may be a subtle clue that this is the
  case.)

  Sevanna will literally collar Rand with the sad bracelets, and hence,
  gain the ability to channel vicariously through Rand.

  Rand's "to live you must die" prophecy and Mat's "to die and live again"
  prophecy are intimately related.   Rand will die at Tarmon Gai'don, but
  his soul will inhabit Mat's body in Luc/Isam fashion.

Kenneth G. Cavness <[e-mail]>
  What is pretending to be Lews Therin Telamon in Rand's head is actually
  Ishamael. (Note that Lews Therin didn't appear until *after* Ishy's
  death! haHA!)

  The Aelfinn/Elfinn are in a world of If; one of the worlds that has no
  One Power for women, and thus neither Moiraine or Lanfear can channel.
  This is why the bond with Lan was broken -- they went into a world of
  If -- it doesn't exist in Randland -- and they can't channel.

Kyle Brown <[e-mail]>
  Verin is head of a third secret faction of Aes Sedai, the Ancient Ones,
  all of whom are over 200 years old, with mysterious membership and goals.
  Rand's reference to a third group of AS is really a reference to this
  group, which made contact through an as yet unseen non-channeling
  emissary.  This group will come out in open support of Rand, and force
  the Tar Valon and Salidar factions to mend their fences and support Rand
  as well.

Larry Homer <[e-mail]>
  Rand knows exactly who will draw Callandor and follow after (probably
  Logain) because one of his questions inside the ter'angreal doorway
  dealt with that issue.

Mark Langsdorf, aka Frat Rat <[e-mail]>
  The attack on Demira Sedai in LoC was organized by Verin.  The short,
  familiar looking Aiel in the attack was Verin's Warder, Tomas, in
  disguise.  Verin staged the attack so she could manipulate the Sedai
  into confronting Rand and keep them from allying with him.

Matt Orwig <[e-mail]>
  Padan Fain, Maichin Shin, Madashar and the Taint are all related as some
  sort of third mad element to the war between good and evil.  They were
  pulled into this world when the DO was being sealed in Shayol Ghul ie, he
  was grasping for any possible thing he could find to save him from being
  imprisoned and whatever he does find flows into the very force that was
  used to imprison him.  Padan Fain will be a third element to the final
  battle, one not predicted by prophecy.

Michael Gonzalez <[e-mail]>
  Mesaana is Silviana, Elaida's Mistress of Novices.

  Rand will soon figure out that Taim is Demandred, but he will either
  a) try to exploit Taim for what he's worth while he can or
  b) try to lead Demandred/Taim back to the Light

  Rand established the school as a direct result of one of the answers that
  he received in 'finnland.

  Sevanna's cube was given to her by Sammael, who found it in his stasis box.

  Lanfear and Moiraine have merged, Luc/Isam style, and will be recognized
  by the Seanchan as the Daughter of the Nine Moons.  The whole history of
  the Seanchan was a set-up of Ishamael's to prepare them for Lanfear's
  leadership.

Michael Sullivan <[e-mail]>
  Aviendha killed Asmodean.

Paul Khangure <[e-mail]>
  Morgase is killed by the Whitecloaks, and they boast about killing a Tar
  Valon trained witch. Gawyn realises his hatred of Rand is unfounded, and
  Galad realises his allegiance with the Whitecloaks is absurd. Both Gawyn
  and Galad head to Caemlyn (independently) where they meet up with Rand
  and Elayne.

Scott <[e-mail]>
  In the final battle with the Dark One, Lews Therin will take over Rand's
  body/mind/whatever and destroy the Dark One and/or seal the Bore again.
  This will be the salvation of his soul, and he dies in peace, to be respun
  again by the Wheel.

  The White Ajah actually has the most extensive spy network of all the Aes
  Sedai.  They are "believed" to have no such network at all, but what could
  be more logical than to keep your spy network totally hidden, since it is
  supposed to be secret?

Stephen Kent Worsnop <[e-mail]>
   All of the Aiel who are siswai'aman will die.  Only those who do not
   wear the headband will survive Tarmon Gaidon as the remnant of a remnant.

Steve Frishcosy <[e-mail]>
  Cuendillar is a physical representation of both saidar and saidin like
  the Eye of the World is a physical representation of just saidin.  If you
  just had pure amounts of one or the other Power, they'd be liquid.

Thomas Lide <[e-mail]>
  Gawyn will play a key role in finding/freeing Lord Luc (based on Bunt's
  comment in 'The Last Village', TEotW).

  Tam will lead Illian in a civil war against Sammael, saving Rand and Mat's
  failed offensive.

Timothy S. Bruening <[e-mail]>
  Alviarin sends a Gray Man to kill Elaida, then takes over as possibly the
  first Black Amyrlin ever.

  Rand is turned to the Shadow by 13 Black Ajah or Dreadlords and 13 Fades.
  To turn him back from the Shadow, 13 Aes Sedai Gentle him to break his
  ties to the Shadow, then Nynaeve Heals him to restore his channeling
  ability.

  Mat's left eye will be needed to reconstitute the Eye of the World, which
  Rand will need for the Last Battle.

  Graendal in Arad Doman may Compel the Seanchan in Arad Doman to follow
  her orders.

  Egwene and the Salidar AS will Travel to near Tar Valon.  Egwene, Nynaeve,
  and Elayne will then take Salidar AS and troops into tel'aran'rhiod
  physically.  The AS and troops will travel to the tel'aran'rhiod reflection
  of the White Tower, move into strategically important areas, and then exit
  tel'aran'rhiod, taking the Tower AS by surprise.

  Jaichim Carridin will become leader of the Whitecloaks.

Tony Zbaraschuk <[e-mail]>
  Padan Fain is the Dark One.


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