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- Path: W3IWI!N6VV
- Date: 10 Aug 88 06:21:58 Z
- From: N6VV@N6VV
- To: W3IWI
- Subject: Routing Designators
-
- Hank,
-
- With the introduction of the Hierarchical Forward system which you
- are currently implementing I have been thinking about the content
- of the new fields you are implementing. Besides solving the "lazy
- Sysop" ZIP forwarding controversy currently brewing in Norcal, it
- presents us with both new opportunities and new problems. Some
- guidelines need to be established quickly before we have everyone
- "inventing" standards for routing designators. It is important that
- this is done on the front end since some kind of standard will have
- to be implemented and all BBSs educated so that stations can modify
- their forwarding file to support the new capabilities that your
- enhancement provide.
-
- I have more interest in this than most people since I am currently
- receiving the traffic for the Pacific, Asia and sometimes Europe for
- forwarding thru AX4BBS. In general I am not too interested in North
- American forwarding schemes since I am sure that almost everyone will
- adopt your proposal set out in you example. Thus:
-
- W6ABC @ W0RLI.CA
-
- Will undoubtely be accepted as the way to do it. State based forwarding
- will gain general acceptance and will make all of our lives much
- simpler. I am concerning about setting up some proposed standards for
- out of country forwarding. This is not only because I am currently
- responsible for a good bulk of it but because the I'm sure that as
- the PACSATs come on-line there may be increase opportunity for
- internationally routed traffic. We should try to work out some
- standards now and give them a work out in the international HF
- forwarding arena to see how they work.
-
- I am quite familiar with commercial standards setting procedures as
- I am a member of a number of standards orgainizations including
- ANSI and ISO. My company is involved in the international message
- software business thru what is known as ANSI X.12 and the EDIFACT
- standard which are used for EDI or Electronic Data Interchange.
-
- I would like your comments on this proposal:
-
- We agree to a geographical structure which would involve getting
- the traffic to successively better defined areas. For international
- traffic forwarding this currently involves getting it to at least the
- right continent. Thus I propose using a 2 letter code to designate
- continental areas. I will explain why 2 later. I have done some
- research into possible continental codes and cannot find any official
- designators that have wide acceptance so propose that we could adopt
- what would be generally accepted and recognizable codes such as:
-
- NA North America
- SA South America
- EU Europe
- AF Africa
- AS Asia
- PA Pacific (Not actually a continent but different from Asia and
- Australia. Includes much of my traffic.)
- AU Australia
-
- As it turns out all AF,AS,PA and AU traffic comes now to N6VV. I also
- get traffic for EU but have only seen 3 pieces of traffic returned
- from Europe thru Asia so I'm not sure how effective that path is.
-
- The next level would be country code and here there is a widely
- accepted international standard for country codes. It is published
- by The International Standards Oranization (ISO) and is used in
- virtually every standard electronic document and sporting event
- or international gathering. At the Olympics this 3 character
- code is used on scoreboards to denote country. It is found in
- ISO Standard 3166 more properly known as ISO-3166-1981(E/F).
- This document is printed in Geneva Switzerland but I happen to have
- it in my possesion in both printed and electronic form.
-
- Some country codes are:
-
- Australia AUS
- Belgium BEL
- Canada CAN
- Denmark DNK
- France FRA
- Germany,East DDR
- Germany,West DEU
- Italy ITA
- Japan JPN
- New Zealand NZL
- UK GBR
- US USA
-
- Using this scheme traffic for Japan would AT LEAST have the following:
-
- JA4XYZ @ JA1KSO.JPN.AS
-
- Further divisions below the country level would be at the option of
- country organizers or groups but some kind of international standard
- needs to be proposed for adoption. In the case of Japan you site the
- Nets and prefecture division which is similar to our state subdivision.
-
- Mail from abroad could thus be properly addressed :
-
- W6ABC @ N6VV.CA.USA.NA
-
- As I mentioned I selected 2 character continent codes to avoid
- confusion with similar 3 character country codes.
-
- The key here is that you are providing tremendous capabilities to
- the packet community for increased efficency in traffic forwarding.
- I think it is important to discuss the content of the new fields so
- that we can quickly come to some general agreement on how these
- capabilities will be used.
-
- I would be happy to work with you on this in what ever way you would
- like. I could provide a file of the ISO-3166 country codes for inclusion
- in the release. I would be happy to help you write documentation for
- this portion of the system. Please let me know what you think.
-
- I have taken the liberty of sending a copy of this message to Tom
- W3IWI because of the potential implications for the PACSAT program.
-
- Lew N6VV
-
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