- Capitalism and Alternatives -

You have a twisted dream

Posted by: Gerard ( Multi-tendency Socialists, N.Ireland ) on December 16, 1997 at 17:43:53:

In Reply to: nice dream posted by Dan on December 11, 1997 at 23:59:30:


: Unfortunately this is a nice dream but not everything can be mass produced for all for one and two many of us like to have a choice.

SO WHAT YOUR SAYING IS THAT WE COLLECTIVELY MAKE AVAILABLE TO THE FEW THAT WHICH SHOULD BELONG TO EVERYONE?!!
You like the idea that people are straving or are compelled to commit crime so that you can live comfortably. You people make me sick!

: When did it become the job of governments to instil values in our children? The last time I checked it was Parents responsibility to bring their children up. This would involve sifting through advertising. The attack on conformity is used against capatalism but then what would you call a "State raised" society?

What the fuck is your problem withthe state, who do you think build the schools provides the computers (I'm using one provided by the state at the moment)and learning materials? Yes that right the state because big business would never go to the expense so we collectively have to provide education (could we then not collectively provide employment?).

THE STATE IS THE PRODUCT OF NECESSARY COLLECTIVE ORGANISATION OF THE PEOPLE OR CITIZENS, it is not evil, beyond control or in anyway negative its stupid people like you who use propaganda to make it so and what is the great alternative? Big business couldnt give a shit.

Parents provisind for their children, is that not in conflict with your views on the brilliance of individualism and competition?

: Why do you wish to attack this system? Are you being paid? Or are you trying to distract everyone from your points by posing silly questions?
YOU ARENT ANSWERING THE QUESTION, what are you a politician? I want to attack the system because I wont ignore the starving, crime, greed, environmental damage (I could be here all day) etc. it does.

I'm not being paid because money or profit is not an absolute motivater for me because I'm not like you.

What silly questions I would genuinely like to know how stupid someone could be to ignore the facts and defend the indefensable.



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