Day 308 - 28 Nov 96 - Page 02


     
     1                                 Thursday, 28th November, 1996
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     3   MS. STEEL:   Just a point I wanted to get out of the way, which
     4        is not relevant to the counterclaim, actually -- well, I do
     5        not know whether it is, but just so that I can get rid of
     6        the piece of paper -- that in relation to the "whensoever
     7        and wheresoever the leaflet was published" and us being
     8        responsible, that on day 237, page 6, Mr. Carroll said
     9        that, by and large, leaflet distribution was a local
    10        affair, and there was no evidence of it being, you know, a
    11        central group of people going around being responsible for
    12        leafleting in all different places.
    13
    14   MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes.
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    16   MS. STEEL:  I wanted to refer to page 5 of the Defence to
    17        Counterclaim, paragraph 2.  The Plaintiff makes reference
    18        in here to the "chronology of information sent by the
    19        Plaintiffs to the defendant", which is attached at
    20        appendix 1, and this is under the particulars of
    21        justification for accusing us of being liars.  It should be
    22        noted that this chronology of information actually includes
    23        notices of admissions served by the Plaintiffs on the
    24        Defendants in the main action.  I think that, really, that
    25        is an example of just how extreme McDonald's thinking is
    26        and how warped it is, that they can say that the fact that
    27        they have served notices of admission on us where they are
    28        admitting part of what we are saying, that they can then
    29        try and say that that is justification for saying that we
    30        knew that what we were saying is untrue; it is just
    31        completely unreal.  It is a totally distorted way of
    32        thinking.
    33
    34        In tab 3, pages 18 and 19, I just wanted to point out that
    35        we asked them to identify the date of each letter which
    36        they have sent, which they were referring to, and produced
    37        copies.  On page 19, answer 30, they admit that -----
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    39   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Tab 3 -- what, in the bundle?
    40
    41   MS. STEEL:  I should not have said tab 3, actually.  This is my
    42        tab.  So just ignore the tab 3.  In the Further and Better
    43        Particulars of the Defence to Counterclaim.
    44
    45   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.  Page 19.
    46
    47   MS. STEEL:   Pages 18 and 19 and the answers on page 19, where
    48        they admit that the only two letters that they can produce
    49        are the letter sent in December 1984 and the letter sent in
    50        September 1990 which enclosed the writs. 
    51 
    52        I am not going to spend time going through this, because 
    53        I do not think we have time, but I would say strongly that
    54        the leaflet produced in 1984, which the Plaintiffs wrote a
    55        letter about, is substantially different to the fact sheet,
    56        both in form and in content.
    57
    58   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I will hear anything Mr. Rampton wants to say
    59        about that, but it does not look to me that it is the same
    60        leaflet at all.  It may have one or two of the same

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