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- From: tiq@fennel.cc.uwa.oz.au (Todd Green)
- Newsgroups: sci.physics.fusion
- Subject: Re: Missing Oxygen
- Date: 9 Nov 92 13:33:37 +0800
- Organization: University of Western Australia
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- Message-ID: <1992Nov9.133337.1@fennel.cc.uwa.oz.au>
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- In article <921106162911.208010ce@FNALD.FNAL.GOV>, ames!FNALD.FNAL.GOV!DROEGE writes:
-
- > This leaves us with no good way to measure the cathode loading. I think
- > the resistance is not well known - or even meaningful at high loadings.
- > Expansion of the cathode is hard to do, and depends on the shape of the
- > cathode. I cannot imagine how to weigh the cathode while it is under
- > electrolysis. I have all along assumed that a cell can not be turned off
- > and the cathode removed and weighed. It it is, then at least sometimes
- > a lot of gas is lost. So what to do????
-
- Tom, I reckon you should get back to the resistance technique for measuring
- loading values. Having mucked about with most of the alternatives, I decided
- that this was the best procedure. A reasonable calibration of resistance
- versus loading can be constructed from the literature (see McKubre's paper
- for the refs) although I estimate an error of ca. 3% up to 0.90 and maybe as
- high as 5% for > 0.90. If there is any interest I can post the calibration
- data to this group, or maybe even a postscript file of the actual graphs.
-
- A 4 wire resistance measurements is mandatory, of course, given the low
- resistance of the cathodes. Also, the electrolysis current produces a
- voltage offset, but this can be corrected for by pulsing the excitation
- currents in the forward and reverse directions. In a typical run the initial
- resistance might be 2 milliohms but upon charging it will increase to about
- 4 milliohms and then start to drop as you pass through the resistance maxima
- at around PdD0.73. Usually the resistance will stabilise at about 3.8 milliohms
- corresponding to PdD0.85 but one sample that was annealed and acid etched got
- to PdD0.91.
-
- Anyway, I think resistance is probably the best and easiest method to use.
- There are other problems which I haven't mentioned, but they can all be
- solved rather easily.
-
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- Todd
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