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- From: hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin)
- Subject: Checking on teaching
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- Organization: Purdue University Statistics Department
- References: <hunter-051192110844@158.185.20.246> <8NOV199200272917@comet.nscl.msu.edu> <1992Nov9.182002.17736@cbnewsi.cb.att.com>
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- Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 15:57:40 GMT
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- In article <1992Nov9.182002.17736@cbnewsi.cb.att.com> klf@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (karen.l.fenton) writes:
- >In article <8NOV199200272917@comet.nscl.msu.edu>, burtt@comet.nscl.msu.edu (BRIAN BURTT) writes:
- >> In article <1992Nov08.033354.24640@mwc.vak12ed.edu>, wwarrick@mwc.vak12ed.edu (William D. Warrick) writes...
- >> Sit in on classes, and hold teachers accountable if they are teaching
- >> poorly (as well as reward those who are teaching well). I.e., get some
- >> idea of what is going on in the school(s), rather than just going to
- >> the appointed board meetings.
- >> If you are feeling really daring and liberal, try to convince your
- >> other board members to do the same.
-
-
- >This is absolutely precluded by most union contracts I've seen.
- >And even if (IF!) one were allowed to do this, I'd like to see
- >a show of hands from all of you who feel that *I*, a software
- >developer with no training whatever in education methodology, classroom
- >techniques, psychology, or staff development/evaluation, should be
- >allowed to sit in and formally evaluate teacher performance.
-
- >Thanks. I didn't think so.
-
- >It's all *so easy* when you don't know the laws or limits, isn't it???
-
- I do not think that sitting in on classes is necessarily a way of checking
- on how good a teaching job is done; it is most likely going to check on
- whether the teacher is teaching as the one sitting in wants. Looking at
- performance in future classes, taking into account the preparation of the
- student, is far better.
-
- But as to your second question, I am far from alone in my belief that it
- is only those with the lack of training you feel disqualifies you who
- are capable of evaluating the teachers. It is precisely those "adept"
- in these items of miseducational philosophy who are responsible for
- the present bad teaching, bad curriculum, etc.
-
-
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- Herman Rubin, Dept. of Statistics, Purdue Univ., West Lafayette IN47907-1399
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