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  3. From: demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man)
  4. Newsgroups: sci.econ,talk.politics.misc
  5. Subject: Re: Outgrowing Libertarianism...
  6. Message-ID: <1992Sep3.113009.3887@desire.wright.edu>
  7. Date: 3 Sep 92 16:30:09 GMT
  8. Article-I.D.: desire.1992Sep3.113009.3887
  9. References: <BtrnCt.5Bo@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> <Btt7vq.1oJ@newcastle.ac.uk>  <BtyC8K.JBt@newcastle.ac.uk>
  10. Organization: Demonic Possesions, Inc.
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  12.  
  13. In article <BtyC8K.JBt@newcastle.ac.uk>, Chris.Holt@newcastle.ac.uk (Chris Holt) writes:
  14. > 
  15. >         [sci.econ restored to Newsgroups line]
  16. > 
  17. > demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man) writes:
  18. >>In article <52738@dime.cs.umass.edu>, yodaiken@chelm.cs.umass.edu (victor yodaiken) writes:
  19. >>> In article <87453@netnews.upenn.edu> vvallopp@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Vinod V Valloppillil) writes:
  20. > 
  21. >>>>Additionally, I might add that some strains of libertarianism explicitly
  22. >>>>attempt to wring morality out of politics.  They seek an economic basis
  23. >>>>for all types of governmental law.  Morality and related topics should solely
  24. > 
  25. >>> And some type of marxism-leninism similarly attempted to exclude morality
  26. >>> from their programs which were ostensibly based on a "scientific"
  27. >>> understanding of history. The "libertarian" attempt to pass off prejudice as
  28. >>> science is equally convincing.
  29. > 
  30. >>    All you are doing with such lies is damaging your net.credability.
  31. >>Post the quotes where Libertarians attempt to pass off prejudice as science.
  32. > 
  33. >>    Go ahead, make our day.
  34. > 
  35. > Libertarians frequently claim that reducing governmental interference
  36. > in markets makes them freer and more efficient, so that they will
  37. > expand faster than otherwise.  They claim that public sector spending
  38. > is always less effective than private sector spending.  I trust I
  39. > need not give references for these claims?  Yet, they are undemonstrated,
  40. > and so prejudice rather than science.
  41.  
  42.     That's not the kind of prejudice that Victor is implying.  Rather the
  43. racist kind.
  44.  
  45.     He's saying that Libertarians want to use psuedo-science to back up
  46. racist policies.
  47.  
  48.     But since the Libertarians do not promote racist policies, it's a
  49. strawman.
  50.  
  51.     (And when referring to policies that may or may not be proven, one
  52. usually does not refer to them as "prejudiced".)
  53.  
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