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- From: lytras@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (Lytras Apostolos)
- Subject: Re: Prices on c.s.n.announce
- Message-ID: <1992Aug28.230103.2854@ifi.unizh.ch>
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- References: <199208281821.AA05203@cnam.cnam.fr> <1992Aug28.193432.14085@utstat.uucp>
- Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 23:01:03 GMT
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- In article <1992Aug28.193432.14085@utstat.uucp> philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough) writes:
- >Whatever it takes to put those prices back in should be done. This is
- >virtually the only platform to do this. We look like fools, apart from the
- >fact that the announcements come off looking as though they have been
- >through some kind of censorship. So I would certainly back your request for
- >a vote on this. If the moderator won't go along with it, perhaps there could
- >be a vote on him and/or the group being moderated. The whole thing is
- >ridiculous.
-
- I disagree strongly. This is not what Usenet is about, we *certainly*
- don't look like fools if we respect Usenet tradition, and it is *not* a
- ridiculous thing to (as you put it) "censor" (I'd rather say "moderate")
- these postings. If you read news.answers from time to time, you can find
- more info on what Usenet is, and what it isn't. I am quoting Gene
- Spafford's "What is Usenet?" article here:
-
- 7. Usenet is not an advertising medium.
-
- Because of Usenet's roots in academia, and because Usenet depends
- so heavily on cooperation (sometimes among competitors), custom
- dictates that advertising be kept to a minimum. It is tolerated
- if it is infrequent, informative, and low-hype.
-
- The "comp.newprod" newsgroup is NOT an exception to this rule:
- product announcements are screened by a moderator in an attempt to
- keep the hype-to-information ratio in check.
-
- If you must engage in flackery for your company, use the "biz"
- hierarchy, which is explicitly "advertising-allowed", and which
- (like all of Usenet) is carried only by those sites that want it.
-
- Why should c.s.n.a overrule a widely accepted rule like this? This just
- is not the place to put pricing information. If the demand for such
- information is really big, then one should rather think of making the
- un"censored" articles available on an archive server. So people who want
- it, can get it, but people who object to commercializing Usenet to this
- point won't be offended. This discussion is not ridiculous, but rather
- annoying, because the rules are there, they're widely respected and
- accepted, and there has not been *one* good reason for changing them in
- this discussion, so far (IMHO, of course, you may perceive things
- differently).
-
- Just my 0.02 sFr.
-
- - Apostolos
-
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