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- From: betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz)
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- Subject: Re: True Vegeterian - is it OK?
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- Date: 27 Jan 93 04:57:54 GMT
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- In-Reply-To: dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk's message of 25 Jan 93 13: 01:08 GMT
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- Well, it sounds like your friend is truly dedicated to his own
- destruction. He *might* be slightly more receptive to a healer who is
- sensitive to vegetarianism and fruitarianism...but he might be past
- the point of listening. I had a friend who was starving (for other
- reasons, he was unemployed and refusing "charity" and had other
- problems) and after a while of not eating he really stopped making
- sense. We had to feed him before he could think straight, and he did
- end up in a psychiatric hospital.
-
- We can talk in private email if you want about your friend, but I'll
- say this in public: I don't know where your friend got his ideas about
- "Red Indians" but I haven't heard of fruitarian American Indians (or
- Native Americans as many prefer.) There are many different tribes of
- Native Americans, with different diets and cultures. The tribes of the
- Northeast were great traders, and grew corn (maize) and squash and
- fished and hunted small game. The Plains Indians (Sioux, Cheyenne)
- were buffalo and deer hunters, and ate wild grains and berries. Tribes
- in the southwest ate corn and beans as staples.
- The Native Americans of the Pacific Northwest, who are the ones who
- build totem poles, Kwakuitl (sp?) and other groups, are great salmon
- fishers. And of course the Inuit (Eskimo) live almost entirely off of
- meat, seal and walrus and fish.
- Most of the Indians in "Western" movies are patterned after Sioux,
- Apache, and Comanche, as they were the larger groups which offered
- resistance to the theft of their lands in the 18th century. The Apache
- and I think Comanche were involved in some of the wars between the US
- and Mexico also (I don't know much history, I'm afraid.)
-
- It *is* true that many Native American cultures think of animals
- as their brothers, and thanked them before eating them. There were
- also prayers to call the animals to send one of their number as a
- sacrifice so that the people could eat (I have heard samples of these
- types of prayers from all corners of the US.) BUT, once the animals
- were caught, killed, and thanked, they were eaten!
-
- All the above is a great over-simplification, as there are hundreds
- of different tribes of Native Americans. (Does anyone out here know?
- Were there/are there vegetarian Native American tribes?)
-
- Gosh, how can anyone find "fallen fruit" in Glasgow? I picture Glasgow
- as being something like Pittsburgh in the USA...medium size, heavily
- industrial city with a lot of old factories? I bet you can find
- vegetarians. The folks in rec.food.veg might know. Sounds like your friend
- needs a hospital, though.
-
- good luck,
-
- Betsy
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