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- From: anne@cco.caltech.edu (Anneliese Lilje)
- Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gis
- Subject: Re: USGS digital data
- Date: 28 Jan 1993 18:49:25 GMT
- Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
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- In article <9301271508.AA12609@crdokokl> "Alan H. Rea" <ahrea@CRDOKOKL.CR.USGS.GOV> writes:
- >Sorry, I deleted all of my daily onslaught of GIS-L messages, including
- >a reply to my posting about how mapping is funded at USGS. I have to reply
- >to your points from memory.
- >
- >The decision to emphasize 1:100,000-scale mapping was, I think, firmly
- >based in the world of reality. You see, EVERYONE wants ALL of the
- >1:24,000 DLGs for their area NOW. The level of funding appropriated
- >by Congress is simply not sufficient to accomplish that in a time
- >frame that would satify everyone. Perhaps for your work,
-
- But you see...this is what is WRONG with the way our government
- spends MY tax dollars. If everyone wants 1:24,000 DLG's then this is
- where the money SHOULD go. Also remember that you can create 1:100,000
- DLG's FROM 1:24,000 DLG's, but not vice-versa. Hence you get a two for
- one return by starting on the 1:24,000's immediately. N'est pas?
-
- >1:100,000-scale data are not suitable, but such data ARE suitable for
- >many purposes, and meet the needs of many state agencies, because they
- >typically want uniform, state-wide coverage. Those agencies are a
-
- It may be that 1:100,000 scale maps are okay for some work. But I am still
- curious about where the demand comes from.
-
- >major source of funding for USGS, which is the only Federal agency I
- >know of that relies heavily on funding from the states rather than
- >vice versa. Naturally, the needs of those agencies tend to be met
-
-
- I thought that USGS being a federal agency relies on the tax base.
- Which is "the people" and not state agencies. Oh well... I am not
- a government employee so I wouldn't know this.
-
- >before the needs of university researchers, etc., who are usually not
- >providing funding. For example, ALL the 1:100K DLG themes for
-
- Well, there is a lot of tax dollars taken out of my paycheck each
- year so I am still confused as to how I don't pay a portion
- of your salary.
-
- >Oklahoma will be completed next year, because the state came up with
- >some money to fund the work.
-
- That's good!
-
- >
- >Perhaps your real beef is with the level of funding Congress has
- >appropriated for basic mapping? If so, you may want to talk to your
- >Congressional representatives. Money is tight everywhere, though, not
- >just in California.
-
- I have written letters to appripriate people. No response. But the
- USGS as a government agency, that I have had to deal with also
- WASTES a lot of money. So they could also tighten their ship a bit :-).
-
- >
- >Let's see, two weeks sounds reasonable to reproduce a 1:24K quad. How
- >long to do 55,000 of them?
-
- But remember, I am one person, using inadequate facilities, doing other
- things while I am creating this. If I HAD the appropriate facilities
- I could cut this time dramatically. It would be better to spend time
- making 1:24,000 maps and then simply piecing them together at 1:100,000
- scale for those who desire it.
-
- Two for one.
-
- >
- >Finally, if you know of serious quality-control problems, please let
- >someone in the Western Mapping Center in Menlo Park know about the
- >specifics. This is something to be taken very seriously. Quality
-
-
- They ALREADY are aware of the problems.
-
- >SHOULD be the hallmark of USGS data. Although I think we all get a
- >bit frustrated at times with the slowness of progress, I think most
- >people who work for USGS take pride in knowing that when the job is
- >finally done, it's done right. If there are serious quality problems,
- >someone is letting us all down.
-
- Well the problems are well known by the people in charge. And there is
- not a lot that anyone can really do about it.
-
-
- >
- >Again, I don't work in map production -- I just know a few people who
- anne
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