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- From: jampel@cs.city.ac.uk (Michael Jampel)
- Subject: Re: Teleology. HELP!!!
- Message-ID: <1993Jan27.160143.7300@city.cs>
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- Organization: City University, London
- References: <ssrzakar.728147353@reading>
- Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 16:01:43 GMT
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- In article <ssrzakar.728147353@reading> ssrzakar@csres.cs.reading.ac.uk
- (M. S. Zakaria) writes:
-
- >I would appreciate if somebody out there would be kind enough to explain
- >to me what teleology really is.
-
-
- This may not be what you meant at all...
-
- <flameproof clothes on>
-
- The teleological argument for the existence of God is also known
- as 'The argument from design' (see below). A teleological explanation
- is one which assumes someone has a REASON for doing something, not
- just random chance. People often (wrongly) talk in a teleological way
- about Darwinism -- the zebra has stripes BECAUSE they keep it camouflaged.
-
- No. The zebra has stripes because of a random genetic mutation. The
- environment then affected zebras in good or bad ways because of the
- stripes. So the reason striped horses exists is because a random
- event turned out to have good side effects, not because someone
- (some horse or some God) thought in advance that it would be a good thing.
-
- The argument from design says this: isn't the world wonderful in
- various complicated ways. How did it get to be so complicated (and
- yet with a place for every animal, a prey for every predator)? It
- must have been DESIGNED by something very clever and very powerful.
- Let us call this thing God. Therefore God exists.
-
- ("A stopwatch is very complicated and yet everything fits together.
- This is because someone intelligent designed the watch, and not
- that just a random collection of cogs and springs happened to bump
- into each other in the right way." This example is true, but does not
- prove that the previous paragraph is true.)
-
- This argument for God's existence is flawed in a number of ways. But if
- you are presented with it by any monotheist (Christian, Jew, Muslim, etc)
- it suffices to point out that the argument can also be used to justify
- the existence of _multiple_ gods, each designing their own bit of the
- universe. Also, it does not prove that the designer is _morally_ perfect
- which is an essential attribute of God, in most people's view.
-
- None of this is meant to cause offence: one can believe in God and yet
- recognise that this proof of God's existence doesn't work.
-
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