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- From: petry@pythagoras.math.washington.edu (David Petry)
- Subject: Re: Self-Reference and Paradox (was Re: Human intelligence...)
- Message-ID: <1992Nov19.000227.9652@u.washington.edu>
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- Organization: University of Washington, Mathematics, Seattle
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- Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 00:02:27 GMT
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- In article <BxwzLy.H3E@unx.sas.com> sasghm@theseus.unx.sas.com (Gary Merrill) writes:
- >
- >In article <1992Nov18.051456.24550@u.washington.edu>, petry@corona.math.washington.edu (David Petry) writes:
- >|> In article <BxtBwx.LvH@unx.sas.com> sasghm@theseus.unx.sas.com (Gary Merrill) writes:
- >|> >
- >|> >In article <1992Nov14.151559.13227@oracorp.com>, daryl@oracorp.com (Daryl McCullough) writes:
- >|> >
- >|> >|>
- >|> >|> This sentence is false.
- >|> >|>
- >|> >|> refers to an unrestricted notion of falsity, and is therefore
- >|> >|> meaningless. We can replace "false" by a restricted notion of falsity
- >|> >
- >|> >This sort of thing has been tried before. One problem is that the displayed
- >|> >sentence is *not* meaningless in any normal sense of this term. We
- >|> >know perfectly well what it means -- and that's the problem.
- >|>
- >|> Well, we think we know perfectly well what it (the paradoxical sentence)
- >|> means, but we humans use non-monotonic logic. That is, we are willing to
- >|> reject our previous conclusions in light of new knowledge.
- >|>
- >|> For example, if you found out that I had just written down the sentence
- >|> "2+2 = 5" and was pointing to it while I exclaimed "This sentence is false",
- >|> you would quickly change your belief about the meaning of that exclamation.
- >|>
- >|> I've always felt that that observation is crucial to the understanding of
- >|> the so-called paradoxes.
- >
- >Really? How? What you point to is that the meaning of a sentence is
- >dependent upon context. My claim remains that given the original
- >context of the example (in which the subject of the sentence refers
- >to the sentence itself), we know what the sentence means. The fact
- >that the sentence *could* mean something else in *another* context
- >hardly allows us to escape the paradox.
-
-
- The question is, how do you know that in the original context the subject
- refers to the sentence itself? The answer is that you have been taught
- to "see" paradox. Many, perhaps most, people that have not been taught
- to see the paradox will ask the question "What sentence is being referred
- to?" when they see the sentence "This sentence is false."
-
- Anyways, I find that most people who defend the paradoxes have at their
- command laws of logic which I never even imagined could exist. I will
- probably drop out of this discussion.
-
-
- David Petry
-
-