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- From: hugo@bluehau.bubble.org (Hugo Bueno)
- Newsgroups: rec.autos
- Subject: Re: Air Conditioning
- Keywords: CFC
- Message-ID: <139@bluehau.bubble.org>
- Date: 29 Jul 92 22:08:10 GMT
- References: <31150034@hpspkla.spk.hp.com> <1992Jul27.163616.2372@wpi.WPI.EDU>
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- borowski@hpspkla.spk.hp.com (Don T. Borowski) says:
- .In rec.autos, beuf@wpi.WPI.EDU (Richard J Fuller) writes:
- .
- .>I am bout to purchase a new Geo Storm Coupe....
- .>
- .>I was a bit confused about the Air Conditioning posts I have
- .>been reading over the past week....
- .>
- .>Can someone explain this 1995 thing to me clearly????????????
- .
- .In 1995, you will no longer be able to have your air conditioning system
- .recharged with Freon-12, the the stuff they use in it now. The
- .use of Freon-12 will be banned.
-
- ABSOLUTELY COMPLETELY WRONG!!!!!!!
-
- PRODUCTION of CFC's will cease on a certain date (1995, 2000, whatever).
- You can still use it. You can use it forever if yiu want. However,
- due to demand and increasing excise taxes, it will get more
- expensive to obtain. Donald, don't answer questions unless
- you are informed.
-
- .
- .If your air conditioning system never leaks, you will have no problem.
- .But, almost all auto air conditioning system develop leaks after a few
- .years. So the Freon leaks out. No Freon, no cool. With no replacement
- .after 1995, you might be stuck with a useless system.
-
-
- WRONG - A terribly misinformed answer.
-
- .
- .There are some proposed alternatives. They have several disadvantages.
- .Freon-134a is a proposed alternative. Unfortunately, it doesn't cool
- .very well in systems designed for Freon-12. In addition, it doesn't help
- .carry lubricating oil back to the compressor. The oil winds up in low
- .spots of the system, away from the compressor. Without oil, the compressor
- .quickly fails. Also, this Freon has a nasty habit of chemically reacting
- .with any water or dirt in the system, forming acids which then eat the
- .components of the system.
-
- You don't have to worry about replacements!!!!
-
- .
- .There are some other alternatives, which are mixtures, all of which have
- .the disadvantages listed above to some degree, plus some additional
- .disadvantages of their own.
- .
- .So buy your air conditioning now. Enjoy it as long as it works. The put
- .aside $1500 to $2000 to buy yourself a new system compatible with the
- .new refrigerants in a few years. Or learn how to recharge your own
- .system with iso-butane and propane (see discussion on the net from a few
- .days ago).
- .
- WRONG!!!!!!!
-
- .
- .Donald Borowski WA6OMI Hewlett-Packard, Spokane Division
- ."Angels are able to fly because they take themselves so lightly."
- . -G.K. Chesterton
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