We continue now with the interview with 'Sharula':

     "INSIGHTS: Earlier, you mentioned... you had to petition the
Aghartha, the ones in charge of the inner earth cities.  Are
there other cities in existence?"

     "SHARULA: Oh, yes.  There are many.  There are over one
hundred inner earth cities.  Some of them are very similar..."

     "INSIGHTS: How does one travel from city to city or from
surface to inner city?"

     "SHARULA: Probably the most common method is what we call
the 'tubes.'  It is a series of underground trains.  We've bored
tunnels that run underneath all the oceans and all the continents
and connect all the cities and several of the retreats.  The
trains, which look very much like a subway train, are run on a
cushion of air, an electromagnetic cushion, so they never
actually touch the sides of the tunnel.  This cushion creates a
force field without friction and therefore they can achieve very
high speeds.  The trains are capable of running over 3,000 mph."

     "INSIGHTS: Between the surface and the inner cities, how
does one travel?"

     "SHARULA: There are several entrances that open to the
surface.  We'll use that method or we'll use a ship which is run
by the silver fleet."

     "INSIGHTS: The silver fleet...explain that please."

     "SHARULA: ...The silver fleet is made up of beings from the
Agharthean cities.  Many of the ships that people see in the air
are silver fleets' ships, except for the 'nasties.'"

     "INSIGHTS: How can you identify a silver fleet ship as
opposed to the 'nasties,' as you call them?"

     "SHARULA: ...all the Confederation ships run off of 'divine'
geometrics (or rather, 'cosmic' geometrics - Branton).  The ships
will be either cylinder (cigar?) or they will be saucer shaped or
they will be round.  There are NOT a lot of protrusions and
angles; they have a tendency to be smooth.  The ships that come
in boomerang shapes and other weird configurations are usually
not Confederation ships." (Note: although this may be true to
some extent, in recent years according to some reports the
saurian grays have begun to use the 'disk' or 'saucer' shape also
more frequently.  The 'triangular' craft seen en masse in
Belgium, etc. are apparently 'gray' craft according to abductees
there, which would tend to confirm some of what Bonnie or Sharula
is saying.  Also, these 'boomerang' craft have often been seen in
connection with the Archuleta sub-base network of the
southwestern U.S., which would seem to indicate from what Sharula
has said that the "Dulce" network is largely under the control of
the 'nasties', or the draconian powers, as many other sources
allege that it is. - Branton) 

     "INSIGHTS: Let's talk about the people themselves, the
Telosians.  What would a typical Telosian look like?"

     "SHARULA: The typical Telosian has a slightly golden tone to
their skin and have a tendency toward high cheek bones and
slightly almond shaped eyes.  Most Telosians run toward light
hair and we have all eye colors.  The men are generally 7' to
7'6" in height and the women are generally 6'6" to 7'1" in
height.  When we come to the surface we have a process of
altering the molecules of our bodies so that we are able to
appear the same height as people here on the surface."           

     "INSIGHTS: Does your civilization have any of the social
problems that ours seem to have, like: pollution, hunger,
homeless people and water droughts?"

     "SHARULA: No.  We don't have pollution because we are able
to monitor our systems at all times.  We have learned to
accelerate the atom.  When the first scientists started working
with atoms they didn't realize that they weren't meant to shatter
the atom for energy; they were meant to accelerate the atom for
energy that won't die out and won't produce hazardous afterform. 
Because we learned to accelerate the atoms, we're also able to
dematerialize all of our waste matter and return it back to its
original form..."

     "INSIGHTS: Is the U.S. Government aware of the existence of
Telos and the other underground cities?"

     "SHARULA: Yes.  For a long time they have been trying to get
in, to access the information of Telos and the silver fleet.  The
promise of what they need would be given to them, but in return
there are several things they have to do or quit doing."  

     "INSIGHTS: What was it that they were given to do or stop
doing?"

     "SHARULA: Basically, return the country to what it was
founded on and return to an open and honest government, so that
every citizen has access to what's happening in the government."
(Note: i.e. Constitutionally-based government, Bill of Rights's,
etc.?  If this is Sharula's interpretation of an 'open'
government, then we must assume that the Telosians, or at least
many of them, are opposed to the present plans to establish a
one-world socialist dictatorship or 'New World Order' which will
no doubt impose tremendous threats upon individual liberty of
conscience.  The reader may recall the information from an
earlier file to the effect that human 'benevolents' were working
with the U.S. Government in the Nevada Military complex against
the saurian grays.  Their 'teachings' stated that the U.S.
Constitution and Bill of Rights was very much respected by them. 
Also, could these be allied with the same 'human' aliens who
landed in Florida after the two giant asteroid-ships took up a
geosynchronous orbit around the earth, and warned us not to have
any dealing with these 'gray' aliens, and offered their own
assistance if we disarmed our nuclear weapons?  Were 'they' tied
in with the Telosian 'Blonds' or the Pleiadean 'Nordics'?  Some
accounts suggest that both human groups are at least aware of
each other, and possibly have an alliance with each other.  Now
that the Soviet Union has broken up and the 'need' for
intercontinental ballistic nuclear missiles has been decreased,
will the U.S. government break-off their self-destructive
alliance with the 'grays' and instead seek alliances with the
human groups who had originally warned them about the grays? -
Branton)                                                         

     "INSIGHTS: Are you referring to the government's interaction
with other 'extraterrestrial' (and/or 'innerterrestrials' -
Branton) that are not of the silver fleet?" (Note: The
interviewer is no doubt referring to the 'pact' which the secret
government was manipulated and deceived into making with the
reptilian 'Grays', and subsequently with other branches of the
'serpent race' - Branton)

     "SHARULA: Yes.  That is only one."

     "INSIGHTS: When was the government first introduced to
Telos?"

     "SHARULA: They have been aware of the subterranean cities
and they have been aware of Telos since the country's conception.
It is only near the turn of the century that they started taking
action.  This action did not get really aggressive until the
1950's."

     Note: There are indications that some members of certain
Masonic-type 'secret government' societies, such as the
Rosicrucian Order, have attempted to establish contact with the
subterranean residents of Mt. Shasta, although it is uncertain
just what might have come of this.  Several encounters with the
'Blondes' (both subterran and exterran?) have revealed 'their'
own concern about what is taking place with the abductions and
mutilations of human beings by the sauroid Grays, although many
of these groups claim that they cannot 'interfere' with the
problem due to some 'cosmic law' of non-intervention.  This may
be true with those 'Nordic' or 'Blonde' societies who hail from
other planetary bodies, such as the Taurians, Lyrans, Eridanians,
and Cetusians (the latter of whom seem to be taking the most
action to help their brothers here on earth, in
essence interfering with the saurian 'interferers' from the
Draconis, Bootes, Reticuli, Canis, etc. constellations), and the
'Solar Tribunal' groups of Mars, Luna, Saturn, etc., and so on. 
However, in the case of the Telosian-Aghartian alliance, this
'non-intervention' policy would not apply, since this is their
world also, and they are just as native to earth as anyone else
living on this planet.  In light of this fact, and especially in
light of their own awareness of the reptilian-saurian threat, we
would urge them (if by chance they are reading this) to
reconsider such a stance and join with their fellow human
brothers and sisters on the surface in defending our society from
this ancient threat.

     According to Sharula, in another interview, the city of
Telos exists on five different levels.  The bottom level is about
one and one-half miles across, while the other levels are
different.  The closest level to the mountain itself is about
three-quarters of a mile across.  This would allow for the
possibility of "housing" a large number of inhabitants in a more
concentrated area than surface cities could permit, being that
surface areas can only be inhabited on the one (surface) level,
except for high-rises.  This might explain the large (million-
and-a-half) population of this particular sub-city.

     As a possible confirmation of the above, we quote the
following transcript of parts of an interview between John Lear
and the National Fringe Sciences Bulletin Board:

     "Question:  You just mentioned that there were... other
'species' in contact with this world... are they aware of the
EBE's?

     "Lear:  Yes they are.  The types I will mention are listed
in a USAF Academy Physics book called 'INTRODUCTORY SPACE SCIENCE
VOLUME 2,B.'  I refer to chapter 13... which lists the ones that
are most seen.  They are the EBE's, the 'Blondes'... They look
just like us but are invariably blond-haired and blue eyed. 
Don't know where they come from but they do not interact with us
except for a few abductions now and then.  We also have a species
that is similar to us in appearance but they are about seven feet
tall and the main difference is that their eyes wrap around their
head a little more than ours.  Another type listed is a small
species about four feet tall, very hairy and extremely strong for
their size.  We don't know where these guys come from either. 
All this was in the aforementioned text which was withdrawn by
the Air Force in the early '70's from the book.  But there are
several people who have the original book...

     "Question:  I'm curious also as to the government's plans,
if any, to deal with an uprising of EBE's should that eventually
occur... or would the technological gap make an attempt
untenable?

     "Lear:  It is my understanding that we have already lost the
battle.  This is the reason why MJ-12 is in such a panic.  They
had a lot of well laid plans to inform us, and when the deception
was confirmed about 1984 it was all out the window... 

     "Question:  Recently in the INF treaty negotiations,
Gorbachev indicated that despite prior claims, they too were
working on an SDI program... Is there any connection between our
program and theirs and if the battle is lost, why are those
attempts being made?

     "Lear:  I wish I knew the answer to that.  Several rumors
have come out of the test site recently and one of them was that
every test shot this year (1989? - Branton) has been to make a
giant (underground - Branton) room.  The shots are very clean and
as soon as everything subsides they move in equipment to make
walls, ceiling, floors and various levels."     

     The following account is based on a series of letters,
documents, and diagrams which were received from a man in
Michigan who we will refer to as David L., who claimed to have
been part of a 12-man speleological team who broke into an
ancient tunnel system and, subsequently, encountered some of the
inhabitants of the subsurface world.  These beings described by
David 'may' be the 7-ft. tall humans with large 'wrap-around'
eyes described by John Lear who have bases on the moon.  However
this is only a supposition.

     During the mid-1980's, subsurface researcher Charles A.
Marcoux (now deceased) informed other researchers who were at the
time involved in aerial and subsurface investigations, that he
had received a manuscript, maps, etc., from a long-time
correspondent of his.  This was David L.  We will not reveal the
last name of this source, nor the last names nor the cities of
residence of others involved in the incident out of respect for
their privacy.  However, since much of the story was released to
inner earth researchers some years ago we feel that the
information itself is of enough importance to the "master puzzle"
to mention here.

     The manuscript contained an account of a series of
expeditions which David L. and 11 others were involved with
during the late 1950's and early 1960's.  Only 4 or 5 of the
members took part in the expeditions at any given time, while the
others supported their efforts.  The account contained a
description of an alleged encounter with a subterran "human" race
who allegedly inhabited an underground city or cities, connected
by tunnels, approximately 5-7 miles beneath the surface of
northern Arkansas.  This subterranean system was apparently built
by a highly technological race.  Some indications suggest that
the tunnels were constructed by a race which was more ancient
than the present inhabitants, and were possibly excavated in
antediluvian times, since the present inhabitants allegedly
showed the speleologists ancient sealed 'cities' farther below
their own, built by a race which pre-dated themselves.  

     Some of the men involved were formerly members of a UFO
organization which thrived in Michigan in the 1950's, and which
published a UFO journal which had up to a few thousand
subscribers at one point.  Some of the writers for this
publication, who were also members of the 'board' of this
investigations group, later left off investigating UFO's due to
the confusing "paranormal" aspects of the phenomena, and instead
turned their attentions to subsurface investigations.  At the
time there was a great division between those UFOlogists who
considered the UFO phenomena to be an exclusively physical and
solid phenomena and those who were convinced it was more
paraphysical or supernatural in nature.  Unfortunately, few
considered the possibility that both could be true, i.e. that a
physical race of alien "sorcerers" that possessed seemingly
supernatural or paraphysical abilities, such as the reptilian
Grays, were behind much of the phenomena.  One of the early
members of this groups was a man by the name of George Wight. 
He, like the others, felt that it might be more profitable to
investigate something more "closer to home", like the
subterranean realm, instead of attempting to investigate possible
encounters with alien craft from beyond earth which were here
today and gone tomorrow and might have been paraphysical
apparitions anyway, from all they could gather.  So the group
eventually drifted towards investigating the underground realm,
beginning with the exploration of caverns in Arkansas and
surrounding states.

     According to David L., even though they had been partially
exposed to the idea of subterranean civilizations through the
Shaver Mystery, etc., none of them ever expected to encounter
anything like that, and they took such accounts with a grain of
salt.  To them the idea was almost as elusive as the UFO
phenomena, they had not really seen any solid evidence to prove
it.  They probably realized that any such "evidence" of an alien
civilization might be apprehended by government officials even if
it did turn up, and so they more-or-less resigned themselves to a
"wait and see" attitude.

     Two of the incidents which led Wight and the others to their
assumption of a "paranormal" connection to the UFO phenomena were
as follows.  The first incident which led them to their
conclusions involved a woman known by some members of the group,
who claimed to be an "occult channel" for psychic messages from
the so-called "space people".  The researchers tried to convince
the girl that she should ask the 'occupants' to make an
appearance to them, which she did.  She took them outside and
directed their attention to the sky.  From the standpoint of the
researchers, nothing could be seen in the sky, even through the
girl insisted that 'they' were there.  However, several people in
the area reported seeing a luminous object flying overhead at
about the same time the researchers were standing outside with
the 'contactee', and in the exact same area.  They noticed some
strange qualities with the girl which reminded them of some of
the obsessive and irrational behavior which often accompanies
those who have become involved in the occult, witchcraft, and the
dark side and have become 'possessed' by invisible malevolent
entities as a result.  Also, with the 'religious' background of
some of the members of the group, they began to suspect that
something sinister and deceptive and at least in part
supernatural might be working behind the phenomena.  They noticed
that some of the objects could be seen by people who were
supposedly 'psychically attuned' to them or people who were under
the influence of the objects and the occupants, while those
standing next to them might not see anything at all.

     The other account involved one of the members of the group
who was of the conviction that many of the UFO's were of
'demonic' origin (this is not to say that ALL such objects can be
classified in this way).  This member was alleged to have had
conversations with a well-known UFOlogist at the time who claimed
to have had frequent visits by the so-called 'Men In Black'.  The
beings he encountered looked humanlike yet seemed to possess (or
were 'possessed' by?) supernatural energies; perhaps a
"controlled" hidden society of sorcerers!?  This particular
member of the group, according to David L., claimed that during
his conversations with this well-known researcher, he was told by
this man confidentially that he was of the opinion that some of
the UFO phenomena was 'satanic' or 'demonic' in nature.  The
member who was told this even went so far as to begin giving
public lectures about the occult/demonic origin of some of the
phenomena.

     According to David L., some time afterwards and apparently
in response to his outspokenness, this member and friend of his
was on a ranch somewhere in the mountains of Wyoming where he was
suddenly struck by a brilliantly lit red-glowing object which
appeared in the sky.  As a result of this he suffered serious
paralysis below the waist and was consigned to a wheel chair for
years afterwards.

     Shortly before the group officially disbanded the UFO
organization, George Wight himself wrote and published an article
in their periodical which presented strong evidence that much of
the UFO phenomena was being directed by an unknown intelligence
which was secretly working towards the establishment of an Anti-
Christ system on earth.

     As the "group" began to disband, some of it's members as
we've said began to seek out ways to continue their friendships
and still remain active in some pursuit.  Not so much out of a
motive to discover a lost world but more out of a desire to
fulfill their hunger for adventure (and escape for at least a
time the busy rat-race which many of them, having been involved
in some type of 'professional' career or business, found
themselves getting caught up in) they began to explore the
caverns.

     During the latter part of the 1950's the exploration party
had investigated some very interesting caverns, mainly within the
area of Arkansas and the surrounding states.  At on point they
came across one particular cavern some miles north of Batesville,
Arkansas.  This was in an area where several caverns were
located.  Many of these caves (concentrated generally NW-West of
the town of Cushman) have in fact been the subject of some very
interesting accounts, suggesting that there might be more than
one route to the nether regions below other than the one
discovered by David L. and his friends.  There are accounts of
several people who have entered some of these caves and were
never seen again; or who encountered strange phenomena deep
underground - such as electrical failure of flashlights,
suggesting possible electromagnetic interference; accounts
involving extremely deep caverns; gas pockets encountered at
extreme depths; and an account concerning one of the caves west
of Cushman which seemed to have ancient carvings over it
depicting various figures; and there is even one account which
came from an Oklahoma man who was told by a friend of his of
being chased from a cavern west of Cushman by a large hairy
humanoid who began throwing boulders at him as if annoyingly
scaring him out of "his" territory!

     At one point David L's group came across one particular
cavern near the town.  Over a period of years, returning from
time to time to this particular cavern, the explorers had crossed
underground lakes, followed dead-end leads, explored "breakdown"
areas, investigated numerous cracks and chasms, and steep
inclines.  One of their most fortunate discoveries was made in a
large boulder-strewn break-down area about half-way between the
entrance and an underground "lake".  They noticed a crack in the
path which they had found through the boulders and, following
this crack into the thick of the breakdown they came across
another area where the crevice widened enough to allow them
entrance.  Following this they descended for a very great
distance for a very long while, down a sloping 45 degree incline,
so steep in places that rope had to be used.   This steep,
sloping passage led them past a couple of horizontal "side
passages" which they followed a few miles to dead ends, and
continued deeper through at least one more crevice.  Eventually
they emerged into a large cavernous area hundreds of feet high
and long, which they named "glass cave" because of it's features,
and used it as a central "camp" in subsequent explorations.  The
remarkable thing about this cavern, however, was their claim that
it was located almost 4 MILES beneath the surface of the earth,
which would definitely make it deeper than any other "officially"
recognized cavern.

     Time and again they explored the mazes and labyrinths deep
in the earth using "glass cave" as their central camp.  Two
passages in the far wall of this chamber, opposite from the
crevice through which they first entered glass cave, were each
explored for 3 days continuously before they decided to turn
back.  According to David L., these passages still continued
onward with no end in sight.  Could these have led to the gloomy
'hadean' like caverns which they were to see later, and which
they alleged contained 'gigantic serpents' or snakes capable of
crushing a human being to death in a few seconds?

     After some experiments involving air flow within glass cave,
the explorers were able to trace slight air movements to another
as-yet-undiscovered crevice hidden within the wall, not far from
the crevice which they had entered from above.  This passage,
though relatively small, continued still DEEPER into the earth. 
They explored the steep incline for what they approximated to be
a mile, before reaching an area of "breakdown".  This "seemed" to
be the end of the line.  Just as they were about to turn back in
disappointment from this passage which had taken them deeper than
they had ever been before, one of the members of the team noticed
that the light of their carbide lamps seemed to have a faint
amber tint to it.  All of them were perplexed, wondering what
would be causing the phenomena.

     It was decided that they would all turn off their lamps in
order to see if the greenish luminescence remained.  They did so,
and a minute or so afterwards their eyes adjusted to the darkness
and they could faintly distinguish a greenish luminescence which
seemed to emanate from the lowest part of the passage in an area
where heavy "breakdown" SEEMED to close off any further progress.

     George Wight was the first one to make his way to the spot
in the breakdown area from which the faint light seemed to
emanate and, after removing more rocks, they discovered that
still another crack or crevice, barely wide enough for one man to
enter at a time, descended vertically from beneath the breakdown.

    According to David L., Wight volunteered himself to be the
first to explore the crevice, and soon afterwards he was on his
way down.  A few minutes passed before those above heard the
sound of what they could only guess was George slipping and
falling down the crevice.

     After a period of uncertainty those above, concerned for his
safety, were relieved to hear the faint voice of George Wight
rising up from apparently several dozen feet below.  They were
able to make out his excited words to the effect that he had
fallen into a large tunnel, and encouraged the others to follow
him.

     They did so, and when they were all in the 'tunnel' they
stood in stunned silence.  The passage which stretched out from
them in BOTH directions was not like the common natural cavern
passages which they had explored for the past few days.  In fact,
it seemed more artificial than natural.  Approximately a dozen
feet in height and about the same in width, the 'tunnel' was
similar in shape to a subway tunnel, having a domed ceiling and a
flat floor.  What really caught their attention however, was the
fact that the tunnel was illuminated by a greenish
phosphorescence to the point that they did not need their carbide
lamps to see their surroundings.  The strange luminescence seemed
to emanate from the walls of the tunnel itself, which were clear
and glass-like yet at the same time extremely hard.

     In one direction the lighting effect faded out into
blackness, while in the other direction the light seemed to
increase.  One of the members suggested that the light might be
coming from the surface, and that they might be in one of the old
mines which existed in the area of the cavern entrance, but
others brought up the fact that, according to their calculations,
they were at least five miles beneath the earth and therefore the
light probably did not come from the surface.

     Subsequently, the explorers decided to investigate in the
direction of the "light" since it would allow them to keep some
carbide in reserve for their return trip.  At one point the
tunnel (which was apparently cut through solid rock much of the
way and then glazed over with the hard, transparent substance)
opened into a gigantic cavern.  Actually, this occurred several
times and at intervals, as if those who constructed the tunnel
intentionally meant for them to intersect the various cavern
systems.  Did the ancient builders of this tunnel system possess
a combination of gravitometers, x-rays and sounding radars to
detect these cavities?  Even as it passed through these large
caverns, the tunnel still continued in the form of a transparent
domed enclosure, still the same shape as before, yet this time
the hard transparent substance was in the form of a 'wall' a foot
or so thick that protected the group from the 'outside' or cavern
environment.  And fortunately so, for beyond the luminescent
walls, were black expanses of gloomy darkness within which they
could faintly make out huge moving and slithering figures of what
seemed to be giant serpents and other grotesque reptilian
creatures as well as other non-reptilian creatures, including
giant insects.

     If not for the fact that these creatures were physical,
tangible things, these dark caverns could have been likely
candidates for the legendary 'Hades' of Greek and Hebrew
tradition.

     The most shocking surprise of all, however, occurred on the
third day after exploration of this tunnel began, a considerable
distance from the crevice from which they entered the tunnel. 
They were walking along when all-of-the-sudden they turned around
and found themselves face-to-face with a group of human-like
beings who stood around 7 to 8 feet tall.  'Their' skin had a
faint pale-bluish, almost clay-bluish tint to it and their eyes
were relatively large and owl-like.  But 'they' were definitely
human, according to David L., who was on this particular
expedition.  The 'people' took out some type of electronic
device, apparently some kind of parabolic communicator, and after
a few attempts they succeeded in establishing a communication
link using the electronic 'translator'.