My shade of the month is "O". A color suggested by the hip young girl at the counter. I have to agree that they don't last so long. But I don't agree that that's a drag. I mean, I have so many lipsticks from years past that never made it to the end. And I'm happy when I have to 'freshen up' with MAC lipstick because it gives me the opportunity to bring out the black smooth case from my bag and experience it all over again. I like putting on lipstick, and now I can do it a few times each day with my "o" color. I am now a big fan of MAC. And I love that RuPaul is a cover model for MAC. He's so much more interesting than the others!!!

my favourite shades of MAC are BLADE,LUST,HAKU,and IONIC
-i like the shimmers of them- the only peeve is that they don't last as long as they should

I love MAC. It is only sold in one mall, many store in the
mall, but still one mall. I may be moving to Austin soon
and one of my priorities is to find a MAC counter. They don't
exactly sell it mail order. My favorite lipsticks are Spirit,
Del Rio, and Cherish. And they showed me the most flawless
way to wear eyeliner. I will never use runny pencils again.
I think MAC has a dress code-you guys hit in the head
except for the streak of blonde in the hair (it doesn't seem
to matter what the rest of the haircolor is).

I am an actress--which gets you an awesome 20% discount at both
MAC and FACE and since I have a horribly boring temp job
in SoHo, and because I am a make-up junkie, I visit one or the other daily,
and I have to say that FACE beats the pants off MAC.
The people are friendlier and have less make-up on than
the MAC vampires. Plus, all the stuff is out there on
mirrored tables for you to play with without asking.

MAC, MAC, OH! MAC- how do I love it. I have yet to see anyone mention my favorite shades of hyper and frou. Hyper looks too dark but it is amazing when you actually put it on. Try it! Also, it is a must to own plum liner with those 2 colors. So if you're looking for new shades to try, go for it!

I have to say that I never would have paid more than, oh, I don't know $6 for a lipstick, and quite frankly, I never thought I needed to...the shades, in general, were always dull and boring, but MAC hooked me...they have colors for everyone...they change with the times...they always have something new...the hues are fabuloso...ok, I'll stop now...

i love it because all of the colors look totally great on me
and i also think that people like it because they think that
since it costs $14 it's better than wet'n'wild which only
costs $1(it probably is)

I have to confess to loving MAC lipstix as well ( how original)
My Verve was down to the nub, so i resorted to a drugstore
lipstick and it's actually great! And cheap!
No yucky smell - a non-drying matte.
It's L'Oreal Color Endure....
I also discovered I love SmashBox lipticks too.

I recently went through all my MAC tubes that were down to
the end, and scooped out what was left and there was a ton
of unaccesible lipstick left! Call me cheap.....
I have to get a makeover. Anyone have any suggestions for
where the best place to go it?

All the cosmetic names seem shamelessly obvious to me, a man,
in their promises of sexual bliss. They are all firming or
uplifting or invigorating. They make you tingle. Or glow.
Or feel young. They are prepared with hormones or placentas
or royal jelly. All the juice and joy missing in the lives
of some women are to be supplied by the contents of jars
and bottles. Is it any wonder that they would spend twenty(?)
dollars for an ounce of face makeup or thirty(?) for a half-
ounce of hormone cream. What price bliss? What price sexual
ecstasy?

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I am really tired of spending so much money on lipstick. Although I do have drawers full of lancome, clinique and yes, mac, I have decided to be a bit more frugal and confine my lipstick shopping to Walgreens. I found this great shade of red there that works wonderfully for me. I am really into the retro thing (40's) and this is the perfect non-orangie color!

Yeah I wear makeup, who doesn't? Although I wear a bit, I don't wear so much that it makes me looked like a raccoon that plugged its paw into a light socket. And to Kim, check out YM's march 97' issue page 20. It says prom makeup that lasts, but I use it for everyday, because of the major sweat factor. If you can't find the mag at a bookstore or library, e-mail me at slinger@kanza.net, and I can give you the specifics.

Yeah I wear makeup, who doesn't? Although I wear a bit, I don't wear so much that it makes me looked like a raccoon that plugged its paw into a light socket. And to Kim, check out YM's march 97' issue page 20. It says prom makeup that lasts, but I use it for everyday, because of the major sweat factor. If you can't find the mag at a bookstore or library, e-mail me at slinger@kanza.net, and I can give you the specifics.

Yeah I wear makeup, who doesn't? Although I wear a bit, I don't wear so much that it makes me looked like a raccoon that plugged its paw into a light socket. And to Kim, check out YM's march 97' issue page 20. It says prom makeup that lasts, but I use it for everyday, because of the major sweat factor. If you can't find the mag at a bookstore or library, e-mail me at slinger@kanza.net, and I can give you the specifics.

I wear just enough make-up to cover up blemishes. I like to wear lip gloss, to make my lips feel smooth and smell good. I don't go out in public without eye make up on. I think I look plain. I think I have nice green eyes, so I make them stand out. I rarely use blush because I get red so easily. When I'm feeling bold, I'll use my favorite gold lipstick. I think some girls look good with lots of make up, and others just look like they're trying too hard. If you look good with a lot of make-up and
comfortable with it, I say go for it!

I'm a total make up junkee. God knows how much lipstick I
own and I won't even go into the subject of eyeshodow

I think we all wear Mac cause it's cool. I mean I can't find any other brand that makes those colors but it is to expensive

hello! um yea im a makeup junkie...at the moment i have jayne 'haywire' lipstick on..(where can i find mac in pittsburgh?? i luv the colors),very pale almost chalk white makeup by Mnaic Panic,black kohl almay eyeliner, liquid eyeliner on top lids making a sorta cat eye,blue gold shiny eyeshadow,black mascara by revlon,and brow pencil frum perscriptives..i usually go for dark eyes and pale face and lips with eye glitter or shiny eyeshadow...duz anyone here use manic panic or urban decay makeup??

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i love make-up! i use it as a form of free expression and artistic creativity. mac pushes the envelope with the wide range of colors the line offers - a fact which really allows the imagination to flow. sometimes i get frustrated and feel confined by the fact that women labor precious time over vanity rather than using that same time for more altruistic and intellectual activities. other times i feel grateful that women have this outlet, and an arena in which to indulge in such frivolity and fun! when i feel like the latter example, applying make-up becomes a very empowering experience which feels like a celebration! applying make-up is also a terrificly meditative activity - i like to go into a peaceful restroom and just zone out for a bit - it's a rejuvinating ritual. on the whole, i have a lot more positive things to say about make-up than negative - and when i am feeling negative, i quickly remember that i am a person who ALSO does altruistic, intellectual stuff - i can put on make-up and still be a vital contributing member to my own life and to society as a whole. my favorite mac color is "cyber" because when i wear it i get told my lips look demonic. my favorite color of alltime though is chanel's "vamp" - it's decadent, rich and daring (because it truly does look a little like fresh blood). i wear make-up not just to pretty myself up, but to reflect a little of what is going on inside - it is my psychology and emotions revealing themselves on the surface. sounds a little exaggerated now that it's "on paper", but it's true, make-up really is as fascinating and complex as it is simple and frivolous. sounds like the contradictions inherent in a lot of things in life, huh?

yes, i am a slut, so what. I wear tons of make up, and i enjoy the way people look at me.

yes i wear MAC, it is just a very good lipstick and the
colours are exactly what im looking for. Its just kewl

I wore it for the first time 5 years ago for my junior prom.

This was before MAC was big and had RuPaul for a spokesperson.

The matte was divine and the exact kind of red that matched my
vintage Lucy-type dress that cost me less to buy than my date
spent to rent his tux.

It is incredibly long lasting and *I* always smell a hint of
chocolate in the lipstick. Am I the only one?

I have to agree that the male MAC counterpeople are nicer than the
females. But EVERYONE has an attitude. Being bicoastal, I see
the same kind of NYC attitude at the MAC counter in SoCal as in
Manhattan.

Yes, I wear MAC probably just for the sheer snob-appeal. I know you can get almost the same colors for much cheaper prices. Plus, they have cool names and Viva Glam's proceeds go to charity.
Actually, I don't wear alot of makeup, usually just lipstick, eyeliner, and mascara. I have this thing where I won't wear makeup if I feel my face is all broken out. Even though I know makeup
is supposed to enhance your look, why enhance bad skin.

Yes Im here What Am I choped liver

life sucks

I like the look of makeup on most women. However I live in an extremely humid climate and I am very active in sports, so I usually don't wear any. Does anyone have any suggestions for makeup that doesn't melt off as soon as you start to work up a sweat?

To reply to those who think applying makeup is a huge
waste of time, I'd say that anything that makes a woman
feel good is worth it.

Putting on makeup is really just an exercise in vanity, but
who cares? If it makes me feel better, you're darn tootin'
I'm going to continue doing it. I've got it down to 5 minutes,
and I always have 5 minutes.

It's a personal choice whether to wear makeup; what face
you're going to present to the world. It's boring to look the
same every day. I like having a little variety to do the mocha lipstick, or the red lipstick, or the no lipstick.

One pet peeve is the thick line of plum lipliner, filled in with
sheer shell pink gloss. What the hell is that supposed to emulate?

I like make that makes me shine and glitter. Heavy of lipstick. White and silver eye-hadows. Thick eye-liner and lots of mascara. Reds and rose on the cheeks. Light-colored powder over a transparent foundation. Red long long nails and so on. I comb and curl my hair down back. And then i dress smartly and so on and after all that i love myself and so i love others. See You.

I agree with what dirtypillows said below. I wonder if
studies have been done on female productivity like the
kinds they always do on commuting. You know the ones
where the amount of lost business producitivty is
reconciled against time spent commuting. What would
reallocation of time spent keeping up a look gain women
and girls in another area? I'd like to see serious
discussion on this issue, but I hate the way such discussion
often breaks down into a pretty-girls vs. ugly-feminists
debate. :( Noami Wolfe touched on this in The Beauty
Myth, but I've not seen it tackled elsewhere.

I understand that the so called need to be 'put together'
isn't always because of a woman's own volition, and I
don't mean to knock women who enjoy cosmetics. However,
I feel women spend a lot of their precious time on issue
related to cosmetics. I have friends who drop classes
because they aren't getting enough sleep, but these
same friends will wake up as early as 6 a.m. so that
they can be ready to leave the house at about 8 a.m.
And when their days come to an end, they have to remove
their morning faces and start on their night routine.
I think it would be more efficient to free up time by
not being so high maintenace, but that's just my
opinion and I don't beat my friends over the head with
it. Still, during the morning commute, I mostly see
women still working on their faces while I mostly see
the men relaxing iwth their coffees, papers, books, etc.
I know, I know, all the above is striclty anecdotal, but
it happens.

Anyway, I'll save my ranting for another forum
dealing with makeup in general. I must admit that
when I'm strolling through the mall near my workplace,
I've thought about dropping by the MAC counter but
haven't actually done so. I like the Adrien
Arpel Basic Face stuff she sells on the home shopping
network.

O.K. I confess, I am a total cosmetic junkie! Sometimes,
after going to a department store makeup counter I think
about the shades and products I want for DAYS.

My favorite cosmetic brands (this month) are Bobbi Brown,
(her lip stains are perfect), Francois Nars ( I am in
Love with his King Kong Lipstick and Kenya eyeliner!)
And his nailcolors are absolutely divine!,and
Prescriptives. I also like MAC shades, but I find the
crowds and the service a little offputting, so I generally
only buy MAC once a year or so.

I don't see the big deal on lipstick. Who cares about the color of your lips. Everyone knows that it is not your natural lip color and it gets on your teeth most of the time. I wear lip gloss beacuse it tastes better and looks more natural.

love

love

losome

"see" should be say down there...kind of changes the meaning

if women spent half the time they spend talking about, shopping for and applying makeup volunteering for battered women's shelters, taking martial arts classes, learning a new language, making zines or other art, gardening, defending abortion clinics, or any number of creative, productive, healthy, empowering (forgive my use of that word) this world would be a better place.
im not criticizing and i have my own little lipstick habit, but this forum is making me sad for all that time and energy lost for makeup, and I know a lot you will see it's not time lost but well spent. I just think we girls could be spending our time a hell of a lot better, that's all.

soombody bite me!

WELL THIS SUX BYE.

HELLO ANYBODY???

IS ANYONE HERE?

HEY WHAT'S UP?
I LOVE MAC LIPSTICK

Actually I don't wear MAC, I wear Chanel overpriced lipstick. But I love it!
They make really wonderful lipstick--my colors: Star Red and Very Vamp.
The quality is the best I've encountered so the guilt of having spent
the money is short lived. I haven't yet encountered a MAC shade I can't
refuse, but I'm sure it'll happen one of these days...

the only reason i wear MAC is because they are honestly the only makeup people who have *ever* done a decent makeover on me. i've been to just about every counter imaginable and end up looking like a scary clown everytime. the MAC folks (although they can often look a bit clownish themselves) have given me three awesome makeup lessons. i am a totally loyal user, now, and have gone miles out of my way just to get the stuff and am more than willing to deal with the rude antics of their (mostly male) salespeople to get what i need.

i must admit, however, i feel more than a little nervous going into any of their boutique stores without full makeup and wardrobe.

HI HOW IS EVERYONE TONIGHT

WHAT IS MAC LIPSTICK ANYWAYS SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME

Since MAC is originally from my home town (Toronto)
I'm afraid I can't say word one negative about it!

How funny that I should run across this article just moments
after buying MACs new color JET in lipstick and polish on my
lunch hour!!! Hmmm...and I thought it was going to be a
relatively cheap lunch day for under $7. Hahahahahahahaha!

makeup is expensive....DAMN expensive.

yea, Jamae, ragdoll, I totally agree w/ you two

is anyone out there?

i wear only sunscreen and chapstick.

hmmmmm. i like chapstick. yea. flavored chapstick. i'm not into makeup. putting oils and colors on your face doesn't appeal to me.

Ugh!! Every where I hear raves about MAC.
I don't live near a store that sells MAC, and I've never
bought a MAC product before. But wait...I see some hope!
Sometime during this month I'll be hitting NYC for a day.
So, I might be able to check some out. How much do MAC products cost?
Less, or more than Chanel? More than Clinique? Any info on wonder MAC products
that I should check out while I'm in NYC would be appreciated!!

A deprived lil girl,

Tracy

I love Mac cuz me and my friends love sayin that we gotta go "put our Mac on"

To LAURIE: Betcha didn't know Maybelline INVENTED mascara!

ragdoll, I'm with you!! I don't wear any makeup at all! I don't need it
and I don't think it's necessary. From the girls I've seen, it does more harm than good.
Take for example some of the girls at school, in high school there's this ritual that whenever
the new girls make the cheerleading squad, they have to go without makeup. Talk about Hell Week!
With makeup, they looked like bimbos, without makeup, they looked like old hags. And I'm talking about
14-16 year olds! I knew some of them from Elementary before they started with makeup and they never looked
that bad. I insist that makeup is the cause of it. I don't care how oil-free or hypo-allergenic that mess
is supposed to be, it's still goopy and thick! It will get into the pores and it will do some damage.
That's why I'm a cleanser-and-water girl. No $20 bottles of cleanser either. Just something that can be found at
the grocery store. If you really want to stay with a product line, go for Ponds. It's expensive to me (but I'm cheap)
but it really isn't. I'm mean compare $4-$10 for one of their cleansers or lotions to $20-$50 for one of the department store ones!
As for lips, lip smackers is the best. Something with flavor and still protects and gives me a little sheen. Who could ask for anything
more? My guilty pleasures are those wicked colored nail polishes! It took me a while before I tried them, because $12 ain't happenin'. Then
Sally Hansen released theirs for $1.49 and I was hooked! I will admit Urban Decay has some fly names (Roach! That's too much) but again, $12 for polish
and $15 for lipstick doesn't suit me. Above all, I keep this saying in mind when I think about makeup. It's from 'Allo, 'Allo, a British comedy:
"Lipstick, powder and a bit of paint, make a girl what she jolly well ain't!" Words to live by!

I love makeup! But, not all makeup. It has to be a beautiful color and in pretty packaging. If it is Maybelline, get it away from me! I used to sell it because I loved it so much, but then I realized that I had to put makeup on cheap people that would just want their makeup done for free. They complain when they hear the prices, and all I can ever say is that you get what you pay for.

I have to say, MAC lipstick is passe.
This coming from a woman with plenty of tubes of the stuff.
I appreciate the MAC aesthetic, the energy of the counter
swarming with young Japanese girls trying shades on,
fighting to be nearer to the viles.
But the deep matte colors overwhelm.
Still, shopping for new makeup almost rivals shopping for new shoes.

yes - i wear mac lipstick - 'cause it's
gay/lesbian friendly company- it's coool and
the lipstick colors rock & they laaassssttt.
what more could a babe want?

Although I have plenty of make-up, overpriced and not, I find
it a bit silly to equate buying a lipstick with "therapy".
That's a bit simplistic.

They don't have MAC where I live, but that doesn't stop me from wearing over-priced makeup. I indulge in Clinique and Prescriptives and Lancome as often as possible. New makeup gives me such a rush. I practically ovn a Clinque counter, and my other makeup brand supply is growing healthinly, I am sad to admit on behalf of my vanity.

My best friend works at MAC. So, I get everythig either
for free or at half price. The employees get 60% off. And
if you can show that you work in the fashion bussines or PR
or something that requires maycup, they give you discounts.
I already tried...hi, hi.
The lipsticks are the best. My favourite: Freeze, Del Rio.
My mother's favorite: Red Fox, O.

Twig? Viva Glam? Sorry -- never heard of the stuff.
Does MAC test on animals?

Don't forget the purpose of lipstick, it was invented by those wild, smart, clever, self-indulgent acient Egyptians. The purpose of lipstick was to remind the opposite sex of another set of lips! For me, I have a full mouth and no natural lipcolor, so wearing lipstick makes me look alive instead of dead. At a party, or when I am in the mood, I don't mind my lipstick having a purpose like the ancient Egyptians thought lipstick should.

I love it! I constantly consult with my sister about shades of lipstick and lipliner. My friend Lorena indulges in MAC lipstick too. She found the perfect shade that she can put on for a little sheer color for Saturdays to get a paper and bagel or pile it on for the working professional thing. It is rare that one lipstick can do all that.

Well i've gotta say that me personal favorites are Viva Glam 2, Twig , Pervette aand Haku.I think that what draws me to M.A.C is the funky packaging and the groovy names.
M.A.C actually makes standing in line and being ignored fun.,

ok, all this gushing is making me feel weird.
i've never even *heard* of mac before this issue of maxi,
and i haven't been to macy's in months. when i do go there,
i make a mad dash through the makeup section for the
escalators, to escape all those awful smells and sales
people. i think its cool for some women to be into lipstick
-- but for me, it never looks right, never feels right, and
i'd rather spend my $15 on a scrumptious dinner than
something that feels "off". surely there's someone else
like me out there - still kinda hip, but not into makeup?

Just bought my first MAC -- Russian Red ("It's Madonna's favorite - she orders it by the truckload" said the nice saleslady. "Well, I only need one." I said) I like it just fine -- and it's way cheaper than Chanel. I'll probably buy more -- my lipstick habit is pretty bad, but isn't confined to any particular brand.

I work only a few steps from a Mac counter, so you can imagine
my daily inner struggle (I even get a discount). Currently, I have Viva Glam, Sleek,
Paramount, Film Noir, Sepia, Modum, Twig, Del Rio, Hyper, and
Desire. The weird thing is, people constantly think I work at
Mac, I don't wear that much makeup (lipstick and mascara), I'm
very polite,and I stopped wearing all black years ago! I swear,
if I hear, "Hey, Mac Girl!" once more!

Statistics show that the average woman eats five pounds
of lipstick in her lifetime. 5 lbs.! Ick!

If that's true, you'd better make it the kind you like.

Statistics show that a woman eats five pounds of lipstick
in her lifetime. Ick!

If that's true, you better make it the kind you like.

I confess that I have never had the patience to try MAX -- the line at Nordstroms in Washington, DC is always 50 women deep, and it always seems to be women with screaming kids in strollers. My MACless life has not left me without a lipstick obsession. I am a big Bobbi Brown junkie, myself. Other lipsticks can be so icky bright, all hot pink and orange....I was pining for a REAL neutral brownish lippy, burgundy berries without a hint of fuschia, and Hershey-bar yumminess that never strayed toward pumpkin land. Bobbi does right by me, allelujah! I'll have to elbow my way to the MAC counter now and further break the bank for the sake of my leeps.

Is anyone here?