(these are comments from PC users on the PC version of NABOB) Messages from ...the Palladin BBS. Compiled and Downloaded on 08-26-1991 @ 06:44:03. ================================================= Section 1: General Messages Message #13064 Dated 08-23-91 @ 17:14. From: ROBERTO GAHDJA To: SYSOP (Received: on 08-23-91 @ 18:39:34) Subject: Beta-Test copy of NABOB.ZIP (New Message) I would like to ask if you wish to participate in the beta-testing of what I feel is the most incredible breakthrough in compression programming yet. This program significantly improves the gains gotten by using a compression program, without too much loss in calculation time. I am asking your callers to participate by downloading the file and testing it on their own systems. I remind them that it is pre-release and not entirely bug-free, (though I haven't found one for quite a while, it is my nature to be conservative and say they still exist.) Since I have no dependable means of getting a quality replies from the users, I am asking that they leave their messages here, and I will log on to collect feedback as often as possible. If you think that your users would be interested in helping me, feel free to re-set this message to be public, (or do whatever means are called for) and then allow NABOB.ZIP to be downloaded by users. Thank you for your help, in advance. Roberto Gahdja, Ph.D. Replies: 13070, 13072, 13085, 13098. Section 1: General Messages Message #13070 Dated 08-23-89 @ 19:54. From: MICHAEL DEW To: ROBERTO GAHDJA (Received: on 08-25-89 @ 18:49:52) Subject: Beta-Test copy of NABOB.ZIP (Reply to Message #13064) Roberto, I think we can find some takers around here ... .............msd No Replies. Section 1: General Messages Message #13085 Dated 08-24-89 @ 14:34. From: RICHARD FINK To: ROBERTO GAHDJA (Received: on 08-25-89 @ 18:50:36) Subject: Beta-Test copy of NABOB.ZIP (Reply to Message #13064) Well, one might say that another compression program in the wind is the last thing we need. But hell, lets keep the creative juices flowing ! If you have something better... good for you. It's all this thinking and energy that eventually produces the REAL Improved Product that makes things better for all of us. Good luck. No Replies. Section 1: General Messages Message #13098 Dated 08-25-89 @ 06:40. From: JIM MORAN To: ROBERTO GAHDJA (Received: on 08-25-89 @ 18:50:48) Subject: Beta-Test copy of NABOB.ZIP (Reply to Message #13064) Dr. Gahdja: Thank you for enhancing my professional career. I will save my company several thousand dollars in phone charges due to the release of your excellent NABOB program. I transferred an entire hard-drive from San Francisco to a tiny directory on my machine at home using PC Anywhere, and the file transfer took 2 seconds. Sure hope that Jim Derr has BOB support in his new SHEZ release! No Replies. Section 2: BBS SysOps Backroom Message #13075 Dated 08-24-91 @ 03:39. From: STEVE SHELTON To: AL KALIAN (Received: on 08-24-91 @ 05:14:32) Subject: .BOB Files (New Message) SO Like, I'm on Jay's Board and I see this NABOB archiver. It was Uploaded by Al Kalian! Wow! It's a Beta and it 'sposed to beat ZIP and lhARC! Wow! And I'm the type of guy who converts his entire BBS to the latest whiz-bang-Beta packer at the drop of a hat! Wow! SO Like, I download this thing. I unpack it and run it without any parameters and it looks like a Beta packer to me! SO Like, I pack these Files up. Wow! Does this thing make SMALL archives or what? It Stranges. It Minces. It Dices! Wow! It's the best damn archive file maker I have ever seen! thanks, Al! Replies: 13077, 13099. Section 2: BBS SysOps Backroom Message #13077 Dated 08-24-91 @ 05:15. From: SYSOP To: STEVE SHELTON (Received: on 08-25-91 @ 11:39:12) Subject: .BOB Files (Reply to Message #13075) Steve: Glad you like it. Ought to get Katz to looking over his shoulder, huh? Al. Reply: 13087. Section 2: BBS SysOps Backroom Message #13087 Dated 08-24-91 @ 15:30. From: JIM SWITZ To: SYSOP (Received: on 08-24-91 @ 17:38:56) Subject: .BOB Files (Reply to Message #13077) I like it too, Al; very impressive indeed! One thing you should caution other users about though - be VERY careful to close all your floppy drive doors *before* running NABOB! The compression occurs so fast, and compresses so much, that the resulting file vacuum started to suck stray bits of paper into my poor AT clone through the 2 floppy drive slots! It was a real mess to clean out, especially the Post-It notes. Keep them doors closed, man. Replies: 13100, 13105. Section 2: BBS SysOps Backroom Message #13100 Dated 08-25-91 @ 06:51. From: JIM MORAN To: JIM SWITZ (Received: on 08-25-91 @ 17:02:04) Subject: .BOB Files (Reply to Message #13087) Jim: Thanks for the tip on keeping the floppy doors closed. A little too late in my case, however. I lost a throw rug, desk lamp and my new Nordstrom's necktie before I got to the big red switch to stop the thing, and my cat was clinging to my leg the whole time with its tail pointing STRAIGHT at the a: drive! Now I start it from a batch file and quickly leave the room. Thanks again. No Replies. Section 2: BBS SysOps Backroom Message #13105 Dated 08-25-91 @ 14:32. From: RICHARD FINK To: JIM SWITZ (Received: on 08-25-91 @ 17:02:52) Subject: .BOB Files (Reply to Message #13087) Hey, right you are. I didn't know what caused the rush through there but that's it... I was NABOBing my whole 100MB hard disk onto one floppy. I'm using this for backup man. It beats everything. Shew. I mean Dr. Gadjha is on to something HOT. Al, please clue him into the coming COMDEX. It will take the show. Who knows, Western Digital may want to Make-A-Deal and use his compression method in their hard disk controller technology. And dig it.... it's only the Beta version !! Reply: 13110. Section 2: BBS SysOps Backroom Message #13110 Dated 08-25-91 @ 17:04. From: JIM SWITZ To: RICHARD FINK Subject: .BOB Files (Reply to Message #13105) Nope. Western Digital and other drive makers are soon to be history, now that pretty much anything you want can be compressed and stored on a single 64k DRAM. Faster, too. No Replies. Section 2: BBS SysOps Backroom Message #13099 Dated 08-25-91 @ 06:47. From: JIM MORAN To: STEVE SHELTON (Received: on 08-25-91 @ 11:39:30) Subject: .BOB Files (Reply to Message #13075) Steve: You're right. NABOB is the best file compression ever! Phil Katz, eat your heart out! A friend of mine in New York sent me the entire Manhattan telephone directory (SHISHKA.BOB). With ZIP or ARC this would have been an expensive long-distance bill. But with BOB, no problem! As long as Dr. Gahdja doesn't change the next release too much and we don't end up with incompatible BOB files, it should become the BBS standard of the 90's. Replies: 13103, 13109. Section 2: BBS SysOps Backroom Message #13103 Dated 08-25-91 @ 11:46. From: STEVE SHELTON To: JIM MORAN Subject: .BOB Files (Reply to Message #13099) Shishka ? sheesh... it's Shickse you Goyimma! I re-bobbed my entire Board last night in a special EVENT. Worked Great. Saved considerable disk space over new "inflated" ZIP Files, (I have been running the "illegal" pkZIP v2.00 Beta for some time now). And it's FAST! too. I'm glad there are no pleas for money or drugs or the usual bullsh*t one finds in these shareware utilities. I was talking to one of my users (who should KNOW) and he says that Gahdja was a pupil of Yoshi before he became a master of the Glass Bead Game. Apparently Gahdja wrote the thing in Z80 assembler first, and then converted it to Tiny Basic because all he had to work on was an old TRS-80 portable computer. Imagine what the full, 32-bit version with OS/2 calls will be like! No Replies. Section 2: BBS SysOps Backroom Message #13109 Dated 08-25-91 @ 17:01. From: JIM SWITZ To: JIM MORAN Subject: .BOB Files (Reply to Message #13099) Gee, I misread your message there for a minute. Thought you had a file called SHIKSA.BOB. Which, of course, would be a listing of many of the girls in New York. No Replies. Section 2: BBS SysOps Backroom Message #13115 Dated 08-26-91 @ 13:30 From: SYSOP To: All Subject: corrupted docs (New Message) If you recently downloaded the beta copy of NABOB, you might have noticed that the DOC's were incomplete. You can either download the file again, or just extract the DOC file and download it. Al. No Replies. Section 2: BBS SysOps Backroom Message #13144 Dated 08-26-91 @ 23:50. From: STEVE SHELTON To: JIM MORAN Subject: .BOB Files (Reply to Message #13123) Shishka-Bob. not Bob the schickse the Bob... oh wow, I thought you were making an ethnic joke about New Yawk City and you were grilling in the backyard... Re-BOB'd my entire Board the last couple of days. solved a LOT of problems. Now it takes the same amount of time to download QMODEM at 1200 baud as it does at 9600 baud. and no more please for "more time". I sure wish that NABOB made self-extracting BOB Files, though. I took apart a BOB file the other night and carefully analyzed it's internal structure. Somebody should tell Vern that alls he's gotta do to add BOB File capability to his FV utility is look at the first byte of the File and see if it's smiling or frowning. If it's smiling, it's a BOB File. If it's frowning, it's Phil Katz learning to eat sushi. No Replies. Section 1: General Messages Message #13155 Dated 08-27-91 @ 20:21. From: ARIEL CALONNE To: SYSOP (Received: on 08-28-91 @ 05:09:28) Subject: corrupted docs (Reply to Message #13122) Al, I DL's NABOB and felt, well, like a twit. It created a one byte file, at least using the command line parameters shown in the /h help message. Is it for real or is it junk? Frankly, I got a bit worried that I might have loaded some perverts idea of a joke onto my system. Can you get it to work? Ariel. Reply: 13159. Section 1: General Messages Message #13159 Dated 08-28-91 @ 05:10. From: SYSOP To: ARIEL CALONNE (Received: on 08-28-91 @ 09:10:20) Subject: corrupted docs (Reply to Message #13155) Ariel: Huh? Sounds like you have it working fine. Might want to try a NABOB V on a .BOB file. Al. No Replies. Section 2: BBS SysOps Backroom Message #13161 Dated 08-28-91 @ 07:44. From: JIM DERR To: SYSOP (Received: on 08-28-91 @ 11:43:56) Subject: new shez (Reply to Message #13114) Al, your correct in assuming the shez only support pk stuff for ARC files. I am working on supporting arc, arca, and arcv, however my wife is due to deliver another programmer in approx. 1 week and have not had much time. Now about the NABOB format. This has got to be the greatest scamm going. I compressed a 1.44 meg floopy down to 1 byte using this, with compression like that how can I NOT add support for it??? Reply: 1316 Section 2: BBS SysOps Backroom Message #13165 Dated 08-28-91 @ 11:45. From: SYSOP To: JIM DERR Subject: new shez (Reply to Message #13161) Jim: I think it would be kinda fun to have built-in support for .BOB files. No hurry though...guess you will be having your mind on other things for a while. Al. No Replies. End of messages.