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Topics: Strangest things that have happened to you will crossdressed. Will gender diferences still exist 50 years from now? more...
I was driving from Texas to Illinois and decided to do the second day of the trip as Debbie. Everything went well until I stopped for a quick bite to eat in
a small town in Arkansas. After having a pizza and salad at a Pizza-Hut, I
was ready to get back on the road. I started to open the car door and could not
find my keys in my purse. They were still hanging in the ignition with the doors
locked. First I panicked...I was wearing 4" heel leather boots a short skirt and long blond wig. Then I went back in and asked if they knew someone who could help get me in my car. They said...sure...and called someone. A few minutes the local Sheriff showed up and proceeded to open my door. I was as nervous as anyone could be. After he got it open, I asked if I could buy him a pizza for his trouble. He said, "No dear...just looking at you in those boots has
been payment enough"
Debbie
Actually, for me the most embarrassing thing if not the most entertaining thing, was my skin tight red PVC dress ripping up the back seam at Dragstrip 66 leaving Monika Dare's "der'ier
mk991@primenet.com
One time I was wearing my hottest little leather mini skirt and
while I was bent over pumping gas into my car, the mechanic whistled
at my cute piquant buttocks. I thought I'd take a look back to see
if he was my gas station fantasy guy and shot gas all over him. Now
he brings me cheese every Sunday and my car is in perfect shape. moth@tigr1.fhsu.edu
I was almost caught once just after I had put on a beautiful pair
I was almost caught once just after I had put on a beatiful pair
or red panties. I ducked quickly under my bed and was not seen.
That was many years ago, now I dress fully whenever I can and
particulary enjoy being out on a windy day. I love wearing womens
undergarmets and glourious feeling when fully dressed.
Diane
Emily,
the isbn no for your book is isbn 0571162517 it's published by faber& faber,
3, Queen St. London WC 1N
C an't comment on the topic, because nothing THAT out-of-the-ordinary ever happened to me while cross-dressed. I am unsure if this is the
correct forum for the following query, but I am a young man, in school
looking to purchase women's shoes in larger-than-usual sizes, perhaps
size 14 EE, where they are inexpensive. I used to wear a 13 EE,
but I grew out of them. Does anyone know of any retailers, catalogues
or stores in the New York/New Jersey Metroplitan area that sells
ATTRACTIVE heels, flats, boots, in larger sizes, that AREN'T too exp-
ensive?
rmjs@eden.rutgers.edu
I have yet to go out in public fully dressed, but I can say it's a bit strange
when people from work call me at home to ask a question. I feel comfortable speaking
to them, but I wonder: "If only they knew who they're talking to!" I'd love
to come to work "dressed" to show them. Somehow, though, I think I'd be browsing
the "HELP WANTED" ads after doing that.
Suzy
I am fascinated by the sharp contrasts appearing in identity as a cross-dresser. Being a pilot, I fly airline aircrafts. Thousands of horsepowers at my finger tips.
I wear a nice dark blue uniform, white shirt with some gold insignia,
and I flirt with qute air-hostesses. Suddenly the scene changes. I am in a hotel room. My unform hangs neatly on clothes hangers. The pilot is gone, and the room is occupied by Monique.
Knock of the attacks on the Religious Right. Yea, maybe they are anti-gay, anti-TS/TV, but the world doesn't revolve around them. Truth is the gender community is all too pushy - we gotta have it our way because everyone ELSE is wrong. With that attitude we'll never get accepted. We need to step back, rethink our approach and work on showing them that we're more than sexual characters they see with groups like Act Up. We need to show them that
there can be a place in mainstream life for us. Janette
Last year while I was on a business trip I was staying at a
hotel that had rooms facing inward, surrounding a pool and a
credenza. I was in my room getting dressed while ther was a
wedding ceremony and reception going on by the credenza. I
forgot to close the blinds, only the sheers were closed and I
forgot that with the room light on everything going on in the
room was visible from the outside. Well, one of the wedding
guests must have had a little too much to drink and he was
watching me through the window. After I finished dressing there
was a knock at the door. This guy wanted to know if I was
interested in escorting him to the wedding! I am sure that he
saw everything. I don't think that I was that good looking, or
even passable so he must have been pretty drunk.
After I brusquely dismissed him I closed the shades and
collapsed into a pile of jitters. I was waiting for the hotel
manager to knock at the door. I didn't go out for the rest of
the night.
The next day this guy recognizes me in the hotel restaurant and
said Hi! At least he had the discretion not to make a scene with
his friends. Now I am more careful about curtains in hotel
rooms.
If anyone would like to chat, please E-Mail Tisha Arwen Hayes
In my early days of 'passing', I was driving up to the "QM" when I realized I was low on gas. I pulled into a garage and decided I would use the full service
line for a change. The gas jockey - a muscular Mexican - paid far more
attention to my car than he would if the driver had obviously been a male,
making a great fuss about cleaning my windshield, etc. After, he leaned on my
drivers window and commented about my dress, how nice I looked. I was terrified
and just smiled sweetly and said as little as possible. I never found out if he
knew what I was and was interested or whether I'd 'fooled' him, but I lay awake
nights wondering what might have happened if he'd started off thinking i was a
gg but then realized I wasn't part-way through! As I said, he WAS muscular!
Here's another incident as well .....
I was in the "QM" when I got approached by a guy who knew what I was and was
obviously interested. He kept buying me drinks and lighting my cigarettes and
started caressing me. He made it clear that he wanted to go to bed with me.
Although I was then happily married and very straight, I was tempted ... not
because I wanted to go to bed with a MAN, nor because he was particularly
handsome, but simply because I had obviously turned him on so much. The feeling
of power was awesome! He kept wearing away my defenses and I ALMOST said "Yes"
but I finally chickened out. In the cold light of the morning I realized what a
narrow escape I'd had and I now have some idea - in a way most men don't - of
how "date rapes" can happen. For that, alone, I am grateful.
Chelsea Brown
On one of my 1st en femme shopping trips, my wife & I were in Phila-
delphia & were pulled over by a cop for speeding. I jumped out of the
car, presented my license & reg. & proceeded to give the cop the un-
likely excuse that we were headed to a costume party & I needed a rest-
room pronto but "obviously" couldn't use a ladies room.
The excuse was unlikely since: My wife had no costume on, it was Thursday night, I had on women's glasses & was dressed like a suburban housewife, not a party-goer & was simply too convincingly made up.
To my utter disbelief, he just shook his head, suggested I could use
the ladies room in the bar on the corner & just said to slow down,
be careful & get going! No ticket, no hassle, no problem. My wife
was sure I must have bribed him! There definitely are nice cops!
bg@internetMCI.com
Being arrested by the San Diego police for being cross-dressed.
I was stopped for J-walking and he got me on that plus cross-dressing.
It's still on the books as being illegal and this P** decided
to enforce it. He let me go on a warning for the CD, but I got a citation
for the J-walking.
Kelly Anne
w hile at a club meeting, I shared a room with a new member who was very nervous about coming out for the first time. Anyways, I dragged
her to the meeting and then after the meeting, we took her with us to
the local club to dance and have some drinks. While I was there, I was
hit upon by about five different guys which really surprised me.
Anyways, after a while in the bar, the new member who was so nervous in
the first place, loosened up a bit with a few drinks in her and started
having a good time. She soon though left saying that she was tired and she
went back to the motel to change, or so I thought.
After the bar closed and we all said our goodbyes, I ventured back to
the room, thinking that she was gone. Popping open the door to the room
thinking that no one was there, I was greeted by the new member along with
another member laying on one of the beds. I can tell you this, they weren't
exchanging makeup tips, that's for sure. I am sure that anyone with half
a brain can figure out what was happening there. Now that is what I call very
weird, indeed!
Theresa Richards
Hi Ladies, My name is Denise and I am the Vice President of the CHI DELTA MU Chapter of Tri Ess, (cdm@carroll.com). If there is anyone out here who is looking for a support group that meets monthly in northern New Jersey, contact me at the enclosed e-mail address
cdm@carroll.com
I'm 45 years old,with 4 grandchildren,married 26 years,college educated, conservative,republican,an ordained Minister & curreently pastoring a medium
size church. Oh yeah, I am also a transexual. Boy, you talk about internal
conflict! Sometimes when I am counseling folks, as I hear their problems I think
to myself, thet don't know what real problems are. I have purged and purged and
prayed and prayed, yet I find myself back on premarine, and living as feminine
as I can. Shaved all body hair, including arms,and shaped brows. I dress as
often as I can. I always wear feminine under garments, and the conflict rages on.
My wife suffers so much, she sleeps in another room because she says that I am
just too feminine for her to even sleep with. I really feel trapped.
Hi Girls! My name is Alana I live in Canada. Still not brave enough
to pop out and say "HELLO" to the World yet. Maybe I need a push
I feel Good and think I look fine. But Nervous I guess.
Can any one Help me who's been there and done that?
Let me Know soon All Bye for Now Alana.... IN Canada
One night I put on a simple dress and drove to a little town north of
the city I live in. I parked at a motel and walked about fifty feet
to sit on a bench at the edge of a lake. Later, as I returned to my
car, some guy on the second floor balcony of the motel began scream-
ing stuff about "the Lord" and "repent" and "surely going to hell".
Was he talking to me? I left, never to return to that spot again.
dixon1@ix.netcom.com
To Emily,
The book you are looking for, by Caroline Cossey, is very good and available.
Well it is in Ireland.
Yes, I think gender differences will be around in the next fifty years, because people will still look at the "package" and anyone goiong thru a gender
change will still look like a half-breed for a while until the hormones
take full effect. people will still be people no matter how many laws we
pass.
ljd@ctree.cts.com
Sure, gender differences will always be there.
Be it 50 years of 50,000 some things never change. Men shall be
men, women shall be women, and those that cross over will be
scorned! Sorry, I'm having one of those days.
ACROYEAR01@aol.com
The strangest thing that happened to me was being caught crossdressed with a neighbor kid when his mom came home unexpectedly.
Fifty years from now, as it is now, the only Gender
difference that will matter is the one within
yourself. Besides, fifty years from now if we keep
screwing up the environment, we'll all be wearing
spacesuits and no one can tell what gender you are.
Beverly
I am feeling a new wind of acceptance in the air. I am post - op but do a great deal of peer helping. My girls find that during transition if they are
open and honest with the public not only are they being accepted but they are
being encouraged for their bravery. The key is being open. Inpublic people do
not like fakers. If you cross dressing to work and the other women feel that
you are making fun of them, you will not be accepted. If on the other hand
they know that you are going through this transition, you will find that you
will be encouraged.
Any feelings or experoiences about this?
Elaine
I hope that 50 years from now gender will not matter. As a married closet crossdresser I'm only hoping.
P.S. I'm glad I've found a place to talk 8-)
Jimmina
I have over 50 years of experience as a T*/Cross Dresser. General public acceptance of blurring of gender seems to cycle, but seems to end up a little better on each up-side.
Marianne
I started dressing as a girl when I was maybe 9 or 10. Back then I feared anyone finding out! Today the kids are pretty open about it...
Just 2 yrs. ago, I'd have said that gender would gradually blend & be-
come less critical to society. Given the increasing devisiveness of
society today & the unwillingness to find common ground, I fear that
the religious right will continue to force THEIR moral judgement upon
politicians & others to define the gender roles that they feel are
proper & "correct". But let's hope we'll all become more tolerant!
Yes. I have hobbies like sci-fi, PC's, internetting, I even did the body building circuit, but it was no hobby that inflicted me with transsexualism. It's a curse
I would not wish upon anyone. I hope I am happier as a woman than I was as a
man. I had the usual two choices, switch or die. I chose the former. I hope
I didn't make a mistake.
Kelly Ann
Donna:
Regarding your friend in SLC. There is a brand new news letter there
that has in it's first issue a list of several Utah professionals serving
the community. It might be of intrest to her. She can get a copy of the
news letter by sending a SASE (self addressed stamped envelope to:
The Plain Jane Press, P.O. Box # 701694, WVC,Ut 84170.
keni
I've always wondered if we are at a key time in history with regard to gender classification. Perhaps our descendents will look at this time period and realize what pioneers we were, for I truly believe that there will be some form of a legitimate "third gender" (or more!) by 50 years time.
Lisa A., (DVG member)
I think in 50 years, young gender confused persons will have the oppurtunity to change sooner,and with better results.
Are you kidding??? With all the homophobia and transphobia I've encountered
out here in what's suppose to be the most liberal place to live and express
yourself in North America (California), I suspect that gender differences
as well as intolerance and unacceptablility for the transgendered will be
around as long as we have religious fundamentalists.
Kelly Ann
Sure. Some my disappear. But I'm sure it will change anyway:
there will be other differences then, too.
Hannah, Kiel, GER
Does anyone know of any good TV/TS books? I was looking for "my Story" by Cossey but have not been able to find it yet. Is it worth tracking down?
Emily
I keep hearing lables thrown around like they are important. How
can they be more important than the people they are being used to
describe? A person is still a person whether they are male dress in
female clothing and like both sexes or any combination thereof. We
shouldn't break things down into : this for for gay CDs, this for
straight CDs, this is for gay TS, this is for sraight TS. All that will
do is cause devisiveness in the ranks and limit the power we could weild
as an allied community pushing for the right to be who we are sexually
without being discriminated against.
Brandi
If you mean differences of opinion, yes people will allways have their own point of view. Perhaps fashions will change enough to make it hard to pick the difference but I don't think this very likely. In a perfect world gender differences would not matter to anyone but 50 years is hardly long enough for our world to become perfect. It seems that everytime someone takes a step in the right direction a dozen others take two steps back. Am I a pessimist or what?
Bye for now HUGS ROSALIND!
This thing on hobbies has been interesting reading! I am a 55 yr old hetero cd with a graduate degree in EE. I have met several people with similar backgrounds
an414985@anon.penet.fi
Hi. I am a hetero CD who resides in San Diego. My hobbies are mostly technical in nature: Computers, Electronics, Ham Radio. Part of the reason I believe that
I am the way I am is because these hobbies are so rigorous and do not provide
much emotional satisfaction. Not only is CD'ing sexually satisfying, it is for
me also a way to unwind and be at peace with myself.
Stephanie96
I enjoy dressing femme very much. Since my parents don't know about my being a TS, I must dress only when they are not home. My other hobbies include Sci-fi, music, and reading.
71212.656@compuserve.com
Wow! I never thought about THIS one before, but the two TG interests you
listed have always been big favorites of mine! Music is the only bigger
one. Could interest in trains be a psychological desire to move on to new
"places" [genderwise]? Could the Sci-Fi part be a desire to explore the
"unknown" or visit "new worlds" genderwise? Science Fiction often is
linked to fantasy, so that's not a tough one to figure. Interesting!
bg@internet.MCI.com
I am interested in High Performance sport cars. I currently drive a
Corvette. Anyone else like high speed? I have had this one over 145MPH.
Also I would like to meet someone who is TS in southern Arizona. I am
about 70 miles Southeast of Tucson.
Carol
Hey, you "Christian, Republican, dittohead, Traditionalist, straight" TV:
Here's my address if you want to talk about it. Warning: I don't think it's
wrong, and I'm often untraditional, and I don't know what a dittohead is, but
I am a die-hard Christian, straight, and I vote Republican as often as not. So
you're welcome to email me (confidentiality promised) if you want. Otherwise
maybe I'll find time to post about it here sometime... Keep the faith.
jsdevlin@ucdavis.edu
Hi! Just wished to say, "Hello!" to EVERYONE. I am a pre-op, m-f, from Harrisburg, PA; age: 48. I know that I go into denial at certain times and stop my Premarin but my TG idenity always returns - it is so confusing at times. Take care everyone. Lonna Gerrity
I've been crossdressing since I was 5.My interests are Sci-fi, model railrroading
computers, music (jazz) synthesizers, computer music, photography
and in reference to last week's topic, I think dressing up as a woman
is the sexiest thing in the world.
Jane.
I'm a 34-year-old crossdresser who also has been a science fiction fan for as long as I can remember. In talking with a lot of other crossdressers on the net, I've discovered a lot also share my enjoyment of British television programs and science fiction. Also, I'm surprised how many are into "card" games such as "Magic the Gathering" or other Roll-Playing Games. Connection? Who knows?
Kerry
I'm a casual fan of science fiction, but a fairly avid Trekkie. I also am very interested in computers, and Thank God I am. At 52 (look a bit younger,
thank goodness) it's only in the last year that I've really accepted myself as
the person I really am, which is a fully transgendered hetero. I was thinking
about the recent question of sensuality and transgenderism, and I think the
answer has to be yes! I feel my most complete self, and fully sensual, when
dressed, which includes tight fugure control garments such as girdles and
corsets, and especially feminine lingerie, plus very high heels. I feel best
when fully feminine, but (is this a curse?) also quite submissive, and am
afflicted with the need to be bound and restrained, as well. I am so grate-
ful for the chance to come out online, and wonder if this need to be bound (I
especially love, sigh, latex) has any connection to my transgendered state.
Kelly95CD@aol.com
I have a lot of hobbies and i never seem to have enough time to indulge in them. They are; computers and computer chatting, (I'm a regular in Susan's Place!) I also enjoy making models of all sorts including dinosaurs and starships from various shows and movies, and I DO love sci fi including Star Wars and Star Trek. I also love to get out into the great outdoors and backpack or camp regardless of what the weather is like. This isn't nearly a complet list of my hobbies but they're my favorites.
Rachel Elaine
I am pretty new to the "scene". I enjoy my computer, and even have my first homepage: "http://home.earthlink.net/~mee/pamala" I enjoy
music very much, definitley the grateful dead, melisa ethridge, and
many others. I like Star Trek series, all of them. I enjoy X-files,
Simpsons, hiking, and love being with my friends! I would love to go
out dressed fem one day, but I dont have the nerve...yet!
Pamala
Music, all kinds of music (except Country), listening, playing piano. After
that comes flying, Yoga, hikes in the mountains, walks on the beach,
bicycling. I enjoy films that make me laugh and make me cry. And I never
miss a Star Trek! To me, it portrays a world in which everyone is accepted
and acknowldeged for who they are. It's a nice place to live a couple of
hours a week, even if it is a fantasy. It gives me hope for the future.
Ever since revealing my TS nature to my wife of 22 years, certain old
hobbies seem to have less of a draw. I've gone from a need to master flying
skills to an appreciation of the freedom and beauty of the air. I still
enjoy driving but my old Porsche is spending more time in the garage these
days. Maybe it's because my longer hair gets windblown and tangled now =:)
Paul(a)
Hmmn... hobbies. Well, I have a few, but my biggest one would be music. I am somewhat of a semi-professional musician, but for how much I make at it I still consider it a hobby! I play a number of instruments, and I am also a collector of all types of music. Let's see, I also like to read horror novels and watch horror films. I am especially fond of zombie films... hmmn, this is turning into an odd post... *grin*
I do like some SciFi, but I wouldn't say it is my favorite genre.
And coming from Canada, I am a hockey fan also, of course!
Take Care, Aleisha Michelle
At age 68 I am finding it difficult to finally recognize tht I am a
ts person. Support groups are difficult to find in southern Arizona,
especially in a small town. Any suggestions?
Funny you should mention trains first off like that, all my life I've loved riding on, looking at and
modelling trains. I've allways found that to imerse yourself in a hobby is one of the greatest forms of stress
relief known to man or woman. I find gardening extremely relaxing also and when the rest of the family is away
I can indulge myself in the interest of crossdressing whilst gardening as well
Later this year however my time is going to be taken up with a University course in Psychology so the hobbys may
have to take second place for a while.
Bye for now hugs Rosalind!
Trains, planes, ham radio, computers, video games. I pretty much fit
the profile! In RGA, we have three train fans, and we bump into each
other on rail fan trips all the time! I have thought of starting
a TransGender Train Spotter society: TG-TS.
-- Jamie Faye Fenton
Star Trek big time!!! and this Internet takes up a lot of my time.
(Check out my web site at http://asgo.net/~sarah/sarah.htm
Music, (playing guitar and singing harmonies)... etc. etc. etc.
Yeah, I really get into my hobbies.
Sarah
I was very involved in the paraculture (1980-1992) and the one thing that struck me more than anything was the variety and depth of interest in
technical things. I think there was a disproportianate amount of Engineers,
Electrical, mechanical, civil, etc. And the variety in hobbies went from
astronomy to zoology and not just surface interest but a knowledge that was
marketable and most of the knowlege was aquired throu personal experience.
wwalter1@ix.netcom.com
Most of us have something to do with the computer industry, either employed as
a computer professional or have a strong interest or hobby relating to computers.
Computer geeks, video junkies, PC game enthusiasts, net heads, etc.
THAT'S WHAT IT IS! It's that damn radiation from the CRT's that poisoned my
mind and turned me into a girl!!!!!!
Oh well, I couldn't be happier now. Just call me the transsexual net head.
Love,
Kelly Anne
San Diego's Transsexual Menace Apprentice
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