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First time? I must have been about three years of age. when I wandered into my sisters room and tried on her school uniform skirt and blouse. I can still remember the excitement! Memories of those years before I started school are sketchy but there are three distinct ones. My mothers clothes figure heavily in them. Like the time I had to hide under her bed when she entered the room. I was wearing her dress. 'HAppy days'

Claire Stafford

My first rememberance was at age 6 or 7 seeing girls wearing those shinny black shoes with a strap across the top. I could not understand why I could not have a pair of them. From then on I experimented with my mothers panties when they were at the store. These felt so real and good.

Terrianne

An excelent question. I guess I don't really know when I finally realized I was transgendered (still not sure I am). All that I know is that I really enjoying dressing like a woman sometimes. The first time I dressed in my sisters lingerie and dress I was about 13. I didn't again until I was about 20. My girlfriend and I went out, and she was wearing a great green dress. For some reason I siad I would like to try it on. She helped me into it, and I felt great. I think I then knew I was hooked. Take care all. Hugs, Victoria

Victoria

It was a snowy winter, and I was about ten. I kept going outside and getting my clothes and underwear soaking wet. Finally my mother told me that if I did it one more time, that she was going to make me wear my sister's tights under my clothes because I had no dry long underwear left. That threat seemed so exciting to me, even at that age. Growing up with three sisters, clothes were always available. If only my sisters knew how many pairs of their pantyhose, stockings and high heels that I tried on when they weren't home. Some nights, I would sleep in a pair of pantyhose. What a thrill!!

Veronica

I was about 13. I remember that I owned a tight v-neck red sweater that was kind of long. I had an irresistible impulse to take off my clothes except for the sweater. After strategically placing two half tennis balls and tightening the waist with a belt, I owned my first sweater dress!!! God it felt so right...and, as they say, the rest was history.

Leah Ann

When I was eight, I discovered that the shower curtain was amazingly soft. I would wrap myself in it, pretend that it changed me into a girl and skip out of the house on cloud nine. If clothes weren't available, I'd express my feminine side as I do now, through my writing and in whatever way gg's used to express themselves.

Ricci

I Must have been 3 or 4 yo, living in new york, with an aching desire to wear my sister's ballet tights and leotard. At that age i knew that more than anything else, i wanted To look (and be, sometimes)female. I always fantasized being a hot lady being attracted to other Sexy girls. I only recently began purchasing skirts, dresses and heels. Panty-hose and tights Were my first experience, and i will never let them go!

DOMINIQUE

Reading the stories of others brought back memories. I guess I started wearing my sisters clothes when I was about ten. That was a long long time ago, in a galaxy far far away. Just kidding, met a transsexual who I gave moral and financal support for her sex change. She was the one who really helped me out a lot as far as coming out of the closet and really making me appreciate the art of being a female and the clothes, etc. I'm married, wife knows and fully understands and haven't looked back since. Bye Bye, Debra

Debra

My earliest recollection of being transgendered was as a child probably less than five years old. I am not sure how old I was, but I know that I was too young for school. Anyway, I remember trying to think what my name would have been if I had been born a girl. My parents named me David, and I was "trying on" different girls names to see how they fit. I also remember having asked my mother what she would have named me. At the time, I didn't think that I was "different" I just felt happy and normal and very comfortable thinking of myself as a girl. The stigma of being "different" didn't come until I started puberty. Dani

Danielle

I can remember the first times that I was crossdressed, very young and absolutely enjoyed the feel and look of the Stockings, Panties and slips my mother would leave in the bathroom. It was a comfortable, relaxing but high feeling. Now I crossdress and go public and pass reasonably well and feel so natural doing it. Hannah

Hannah

Looking back, I have been transgendered since 3 1/2. I rember telling my mother that I wanted to be like her. This was the early fifties and women were wearing panty girdles. She gave me a pair of rubber "training pants" that were designed to go over diapers. I was in heaven!

Diana Michaels

Gosh that was eons ago it seems. During my elementary school days I looked at the girls in their dresses and long hair, all those ribbons and bows, and I was sadden that I could look like them. Later on I found a bag of nylon stockings that had been left in the wash room, and taking them I ran back into my house and, Oh what a feeling. I knew they would feel this good. I knew that my life had just changed. Almost forty years later being diagnosed with Gender Dysophoria I'm closer than ever to being full-time. Thank the dear Lord. What a journey. Love to all my sisters.

Anne Marie

I was in my first months of public school in kindergarten and forced to nap in the bedroom of two of my daycare person's daughters. I was a restless 5 year old unable to sleep but full of fantasies to dress in everything I saw from bathing suits to tights and dresses. I laid there frozen, I can remember, feeling fool- ish about my thoughts but wonderfully warm about them as well, my first turn-on. Time and time again I was caught in the same situation in that room. I never acted on those desires, but later did at home with my mother's clothes.

Trish

I was in a church Xmas play at about age 5, and someone decided I should be an angel. The couple other boys around hated the idea, but I found I liked the white dress with padded bosom. I really liked having to wear full face makeup, lipstick, blue eyeshadow, and mascara. After the play, I didn't want to take off the makeup. I actually wanted to wear it to kindergarten the next day, and it took a rather angry mom to veto that idea. I love pretty, conservative clothes, but the part that really makes me Anne is makeup, and I still love applying it, and what it does for my look 30 years later. It took that long to get out! Anne C.

Anne C.

I was about nine or ten baby sitting for my little sister when I began to rummage through my mother's nylon stocking drawer. I tried a pair on, found a girdle in another drawer, put it on, hooked the garters to the stockings, crossed my legs and got the thrill of my life. The feeling of the taut, silky nylons on my legs was heavenly. From there I went to a bra, slip and a dress. The thrill has never left me as I have been dressing up for many years as often as I can. I love to look, feel and smell wondrously feminine. The only drawback is that for numerous reasons, as much as I would like to, I have never gone out publicly.

Marcie

I've been "dressing" for over 25 yrs. My SO knows I do but frowned upon it. Then she went away on business and had a "bi" experience and brought me home some sexy lingerie. Now she lets me dress-up and we have fun together. Brenda.

Brenda

i would like to know more about this

karen

My first recollection of being transgender came when I was about 6 years old. My Best friends at that time were two girs, Carla and Natalie. We held a play in our garage for the whole neighborhood which included a fashion show. I was dressed in a yellow dress with cute white flats. I remember loving the feeling of being dressed as a girl. Over the next three years, for some reason, Natalie would give me her shoes to wear and sometimes an article or two of her clothing. We both thought it was normal. Years later, at my wedding which was in Budapest, Hungary Natlie attended and mentioned to me "remember what we used to do" I shyly let it go, but my wife who knew of my love for women's clothing, laughed.

Tiffany

When I was five years old I started to experiment with my sisters tights.It was the neatest feeling that I evey felt. the smoothness and the way it shaped my legs made me excited. I will never forget those navy blue tights!

Barbara T

Can anyb ody tell me what dress and skirt size I could wear? I know I fit size seven panties, size 38 B bras, Queen size panty hose, But are blouses and dresses different?

Zippy@ionet .net

I was in early grade school and used to play "dress-up" with my sisters. After a while it was discouraged so I dressed in private. Went to cub scouts with a bra on under my shirt,we were painting that day and the den mother tucked in my necktie and felt the bra. She smiled and patted me on the rear. I felt accepted. Now 42, married, kids. My wife helped me "dress" and shop for pantyhose and bra, it didn't fit so she let me use hers. She's gone for 4 days, I'm fully dressed every day and loving it. Yours, Fawna

A couple of times as a young child I had been seen in clothes belonging to my mother and grandmother. Instead of a scolding I inevitably heard how 'cute' I looked. it was an innocent game until I was hit with the cruel joke of puberty and I went through a difficult period of 'social adjustment'. My escape was to find opportunities to be alone at home where I could dress in my mother's and sisters' lingerie and dresses. It really excited me to the point of masturbation, climax and guilt. But despite the guilt I couldn't stop dressing. I knew I wanted to spent significant parts of my life en femme when I met the girls of the old St Charles club in Toronto. Linda Jensen

Linda Jensen

I first started dressing when I was about 7 yrs. old. I tried on my sisters skirt and liked the way it felt Since then I have only fully dressed a few times. I still enjoy the feel and looks of female clothing. Lingerie is my specialty, along with high heeled shoes.

Sara

The first time I dressed was in Claremont Mesa, CA. At the time I was five years old and had put on one of my sister's outfits. It was a blue and white top with a matching skirt. I don't think I actually recognized my self as being trasnsgenered until I was sixteen or eighteen. Although I always prefered to play with girls rather than boys, I didn't attach any significance to it until later. Now of course, I never think of myself as anything other than a lady who lives a man's life when not able to dress. Fortunately, I am able to spend a lot of time en Femme.

Ericha

For first recollection was a dream when I was very young 10 or 12. I was taken to this beutiful mansion by an older lady and three girls my age. They dressed me a this beutiful little girl. I remember being so disappointed when I woke up. Muffin

Muffin Carlise

I was only five when my sisters decided to dress me up like a woman. I did'nt mind at all, and by the time I was 7,8,9, I was doing it myself. The first time I did it on my own, I tried on a one piece bathing suit. It was nylon and a bit to small, but it sure felt good. Growing up with two sisters ment I never had troubles finding something to wear when no one was at home. Now, as an adult I have started to gather my own wardrobe. My wife knows now also...and being able to talk about it sure is great! Huggs ;) Shaz

Shaz

I was in junior high when I started putting on feminine clothes. At that time, it was anything that I could find. Some years later, I started putting outfits together. I would get them anywhere I could, but they had to be skirts or dresses and pantyhose. Often, I would take baths with the clothes on. The wetness was very exciting. I've been out dressed as a woman briefly, but would like to do it more. The problem is, I'm married now. And also in the closet. I've resorted to wearing her clothes, which are my tastes, sexy.

Shelly Ann Pool

I remember wearing my older sisters girdles & bras to school in jr. high (but not on gym days!). Just knowing I was secretly wearing what the other girls were kept me excited all day! NOW my favorite articles of clothing are what can't be seen. Hugs & kisses....Brenda Suzanne

Brenda Suzanne

My earliest memory is pre-school, at a classmates house (daycare). Dress-up was frequent, and the most natural thing for me. I couldn't understand why boys were repulsed by girls... from 4-11, cartoons/movies, television, all had CD characters, or transformation magic or machines. These all fueled my image of who I was. At 11, I began CDing, and in my mind I couldn't understand 1- Why I wasn't born a girl, and 2- Why praying/wishing didn't work, especially if I was sincere. My mom informed me at 17, that the doctor thought I was a girl, during pre-birth tests. All were surprised at my gender (even me) Today, I live part-time as a female. I keep no dark secret from my friends, but can anyone offer advice on how to tell the CONSERVATIVE family? Waiting for your reply....

elayne-k

My earliest recollection is of a dream I had 41 years ago at age 5. I approached a large, black amorphous machine and pressed myself head to toe against it. When I stepped back, I was an adult woman! I walked past a row of seated men, who were all applauding. Tamara.

Tamara

Must have been around 13 yo. I always secretly dressed in my mothers lingerie when no one was around. Now as an adult I still am closeted but I am slowly emerging from that closet of guilt, shame etc.. I have a very understanding spouse who allows dressup times during our play. I would love to go further but at this time I KNOW I am not close to being a passable TV. Would enjoy talking with or even meeting others in the same position. Allison

Allison Lewis

My first TG experience was when I was 3 (one of my earliest memories)I was sick with a fever and complaining about how my skin felt sore. My mother and Aunt decided that wearing a soft nightie might be more comfortable. They were right! They didn't realise how little hope they would have getting me back into PJ's! consequently I spent many happy & comfortable nightie nights thru my childhood, and ever since! Anni

Anni

I remember so clearly -- I was four, living in Saint Paul with my mother. My father was off doing World War II. And I was running down the front sidewalk, leaping over that last step. wearing a scarf. Because girls wore scarves, so if I wore one, I'd be a girl. Didn't quite work; I was a laughingstock instead. This was my first hint that things just MIGHT get a little complicated ....

Rose Prescott

I was 10 or so when I realized that the one thing that had bothered me all the time was that everybody made me think I was a boy when I KNEW I was in transition to my true gender but apparently it was not going to happen any time soon! I contemplated life as a person in the wrong gender without hope of being my true self!! It was a scary feeling, specialy when I knew there was no one else in my condition. I lived like that for many years identifying with women thinking that the feelings I had for all those years were wrong and unique!! Boy, do I know better now!!

Monica

The first time I cand remember any TG feelings was at the age of 11. My family was visiting one of my mother's friends that was always very nice to me. I always wanted to be like her and when I found some of her bras and things hanging in the bathroom, I closed and locked the door, and tried them on to try to look and be like her. I was aroused and hooked at the same time. I loved being a girl and snuck the opportunity every time I got a chance after that. Then started buying my own and hiding it because I ruined some other people's things once! I am 45 now and still basically in the closet. I will come out as soon as circumstances are more comfortable!

Jackie Gentry

Since I was walking on my own I always walked in my mother's pumps at every opportunity. This began in our home in Ft. Wayne, Ind in the late 50's. Today I'm 6 days post-SRS lying in my hospital bed at Theda Clark Medical Center in Neenah, Wi. Upon release (wednesday) I'll be wearing my own pumps back home to San Diego a fully functtional female. God Bless us all! Kelly Ann Stiles

kelly ann stiles

The earliest I was about 12 and I tried on my mothers Marine uniform used socks for breasts and was in heaven. Hugs to all!

Phyllis

I remember staying over night at my aunts unexpectantly. I had no PJs so my aunttold me to usemy cousins satin pjs, believe me they felt a lot better than the old cotton pjs of my own

fchmaid

Regarding the 82 Club in NYC. Found that this club used to be in Greenwich Village around 5th st on the east side. One of the main performers was in the movie "No way to treat a lady" with Rod Steiger, she acted as a victim. Can anyone fill in the blanks about this club that was very active in the 50s and 60s

fchmaid

This is not the easiest question to answer: My first revelation that I was more female than male occurred when I tried on my mother's bathing suit. I believe I was eight at the time. However, my parents recount a very telling incident when I was two years old: I was very jealous of my younger sister's dolls. Since they kept taking them away from I, I then took her dolls and put them into the fire of the wood burning stove.

(G)Wynne

Beleive it or not, I was reading a Superboy comic, and Superboy was exposed to Red kryptonite and changed into a Supergirl. It caused strange feelings inside. A man changed into a woman. Wow. Wonder if I could do something like that? I've been trying on an off ever since.

Christy Kay

Well, finally an easy question! It's kinda like "where were you when Kennedy was shot." (Does that give away my age or what??) I was 4 years old and put on a pair of my mother's panties. Why? I have no idea, but they certainly felt appropriate! A little later, when I was 5 and spending the night at my grandmother's house, I asked whether I could wear a pair of her panties. She brought me not only the panties but a slip to sleep in that night. I've come quite a ways since then, but I'll never forget those first times! http://pages.prodigy.com/kerricd

Kerri Edwards

I first realized it on my first day of kindergarten. I grew up in an isolated neighborhood without any other children around. When I walked into the room, I immediately sat down at a table with three little girls. Later, when the nun came in, she saw me and said, "You can't sit there, that's a girls table." She took my hand and led to a table with some other boys. I remember feeling hurt and confused. Why wasn't I allowed to sit at the girl's table? Ever since then, I felt something was fundamentally wrong in my life. In junior high school I started trying on my sister's clothes. Later on I found a book in the library called "Transvestites and Transexuals" (a medical / clinical type book) and started to put the pieces together. Mary Beth.

Mary Beth Cooper

i was pre school and remember trying on my older sister's slip. It felt very pleasant. Graduated from there to her clothes and mother's clothes when no one was home. Seems that i always knew something was different. m

Marci

At about age 10, or maybe earlier. Either in my bedroom fashioning bikinis out of scarves and rolled up socks (g) or in my mom's room, trying on her unmentionables. First ime I got caught, I was in her corset, nylons, heels and makeup.

SugarD

SugarD

Hi. I live in Colorado Springs, CO and work as a professional in sales. I have actively dressed as a women for quite some time. I'd be interested in hearing from others in from others in Colorado or elsewhere. Bye. Julie

julie now

julie now

I have ALWAYS thought I WAS a girl. I suffered many lectures, tantrums and spankings as a child because I didn't act like a boy but as a natural girl. This confused the heck out of me and I soon learned that I had to make an effort to study boys and learn to act like them. I had to suppress my instincts. I became a very good actor and use what I learned to my advantage in community theater. All my life I got corrected and tried to change but it left a very empty feeling inside. It was very recently I started to be myself in spite of what others may think and say. I don't know where this new honesty may take me but for the first time I feel good about myself. Larissa.

Larissa

I was pre-school (about 5 yrs. old) and was supposed to be taking a nap. Instead, I was in my older sister's room trying on her clothes. My mom discovered me - a major trauma. She asked me what I was doing. I replied, "I just wanted to see what it would feel like." As you can understand, it felt quite appropriate and I haven't stopped since. Hugs, WILLA

WILLA

When I was four years old watching a Popeye cartoon, Olive'ol went through a type of transformation machine that turned her into a beatifull woman. I also wanted to go through that type of machine to become a girl, so I went into my mothers dresser and put on her panties, bra and nightie. I told her that I wanted to be a girl. She thought I was just playing dress up and being cute. From that point on being a girl was always my fantacy. In eight grade I started shaving my legs wearing pantyhose with my Bra and panties constantly getting caught by my mother and sister. In high school I met a girl who seen I was a sissy and made me wear her bra and panties all the time.

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J'ai fait une contribution courte, mais pas complet. Elle continue "c'est aussi une contribution ao projet de legitimer notre mode de vie, feminin- masculin ou masculin-feminin, comme moi. Nous sommes tous dans le meme batteau." Je regrete mon erreur d'ordinateur,

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Attention, tous qui lisent le Francais. Le journal feminin Marie-Claire (edition Francaise, Octobre, a vendre maintenant aux Etats-Unis) a une collection photographique (avec texte) au sujet de transformation feminin- masculin. C'est interessante. C'est aussi une contribution au projet de legitimer notre mo

Oh yeah, I'd still be TG without clothes. I'd express it through makeup and a clean-shaved body. I already have really long hair and long nails which express a touch of the feminine. Mostly however, I believe you'd see it in my attitude. Clothes per se don't make me TG'd; it's an inner part of me. Clothes ARE fun though, huh? :)

Revy

Hello, Friends! Being as I am CD, if there were no clothes, it probably wouldn't be. . . Courtey

Courtney

If clothing were not available, i.e., all clothing were unisex, I would be forced to rely more on gestures, carriage, makeup(to an extent), etc. It would make presentation as a woman much more difficult, in my opinion. Danielle Ann

Danielle Ann

Virtually every society has some code of dress for distinguishing female and male. So we who either straddle that line or cross it permanently would find some means to express what we are. I went through a time of dressing as often as I could. Now I don't bother all that often, saving my prettier dresses for occasions, just as I do suits and ties. Most of the time I wear casual clothes that either sex could wear to the supermarket. Yet paradoxically (or maybe not paradoxically) I'm fully aware of how very much of me is womanly. I've written in TGF about other people picking it up too. So I'd be and am transgendered all the time, however my body is adorned.

Emily Alford

Yes, I do it all the time. I have found acting to be a good release for my transgendered feelings. The acting world is one of the few places where abnormality is good. If you can do something no one else can odds are you're going to get a job.

Suzanna

Life without femme clothes would be very difficult indeed. How would I release the tension if I did not have this possibility of letting off steam. Probably the outcome would be becoming TS instead of TV. Fortunately the clothes do exist. I like to look at them, wear them shop for them, think about them. My number one hobby.
Have fun

- Nadia, Denmark.

If the clothes weren't available... Yes I would still be transgendered. Currently I do not frequently have the opportunity to dress but being transgendered is the core of my identity. I am developing an androgynous appearance when not able to dress, and many of my co-workers have commented that I look like a girl. So Clothes or not, I am transgendered to stay. BTW This is my first post, but I have been a long time observer. Hugs, Dani.

Danielle

This is one of those "hot-button" issues which touches our collective soul - and could set us against each other. I have to weigh in on the side of Susan Ashleigh Thatcher, and others, who say we would be feminine anyway, with or without the clothes. The absence of feminine accoutrements would not make me any more masculine, in my own eyes or in the eyes of others. People call me "Ma'am" in stores when I am dressed in jeans, a sweatshirt, and no makeup. If I have any trouble "passing", it is as a man. That is because I perceive MYSELF to be a woman - and the rest of me has followed suit. The clothes add spice, but for me they are not the be-all and end-all of my femininity.

Cherysse St. Claire

Regarding that NY club, i think it was called the 82 Club and had some of the Jewel Box Revue performers

fchmaid

I have heard there was a beautiful club in NYC that had some of the best performers ever. Does anyone know about this and who perfomed there?

fchmaid

No clothes? a really good question. I know I would have to shave a lot more but I also know that my Transgender Creativity would come to the fore and find some way to be expressed. I remember as a kid taking a Tshirt and tying it under my ribs after stuffing it with socks. I would wear a scarf and imagine that I had hair underneath. The human brain has an amazing ability to fix things. The "no clothes" would be a bit of a ponder in Idaho in January though....

Elizabeth P.

To Barbra, of the cave-girl comment: My study of Deut 22:5, the cross-dressing scripture, led me to some cultural info that reveals more than just a rule; there were religious orders that contained a crossdressing element, and the Jewish law mentioned cross-dressing not for serious moral reasons, but for religious ones, like the high places, or asherah poles. Enough religion. In my OPINION, cross dressing, or transgender-ism, has been around longer than anyone can calculate. If animal and plant species do it, who's to say how long OUR species has been doing it. Cave boys may have even tried on their mother's tree-bark pantyhose, or their sister's bear-skin bra thousands of years ago. Your comment was fun to read, and fun to answer. I do hope though, that we can understand a bit more of the bible and it's origins, instead of guilt or anger at one of it's passages. Take care...

Cave-girl Elayne

By responding in a womanly manner to people and events.
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Promise

My feminism comes from my mind, not my clothes. I enjoy dressing nicely to portray what I feel inside, but I actually feel sexually more female unclothed in bed at night.

Marianne

For me, the clothes are what it is all about. I mean, there is more to it, but the clothing was the first attraction for me, so without that, i dont think that i would have discovered any of the other feelings. I guess that some other femme quality would have replaced the clothing in it's absence.

Daphnye

If female clothes had never been available to me I certainly wouldn't have become a transvestite. The sensation of wearing such beautiful, soft garmets that were worn by the women who were such an important part of my young life was what turned me on to crossdressing and why after many futile years of denial I finally went back to it. If, now through incarceration or some other reason I was to lose access to women's clothes I would still be a crossdresser even if only in my (day)dreams. As they said, you can take the boy out of the panties but you can't take the panties out of the boy!
Were there crossdressers in prebiblical times when everyone wore the same type clothes? How would I feel exchanging one "bedsheet" for another. Or how about even earlier times exchanging animal skins. That wouldn't make me feel more feminine. No, it has to be modern and the more efeminite the better. What do the rest of you cave girls say?

barbra

Hi, I'm hoping to find an old friend I met a year and a half ago. He works & lives in Rochester N.Y. I also know he is a member of a tg support group there, is married, & works at the University of Rochester. I even forget his name. I moved last year from Victoria, B.C. to Southern Ontario, Canada. If anyone knows him, please pass the message along. We had some really great e-mail chats.

Thanks,
Ricky.

ricky

I think OVERALL, the TV comments were right, and the TS comments were right, so in my opinion, the difference is in the TRANSGENDER. Whether you are a TG firmly placed on the spectrum (ie TV), or are transitioning, you will interpret it differently. A few years ago, and I would have. "I've come a long way, Baby" :) My transformation began inside, in my awen, or deepest part of my soul. Hormones and surgury change the body, clothes completes it for me, but nothing changes the fundamental identity that is ME! I live 3/4 time as a female, only my sensitive bearded skin prevents daily living :( <soon to be electro'ed>, but I remember the daily male grind, and the utter relief to become female, even for a short time... For some, this phase was stage 1 of their transition; for others, it's their chosen place. MORE POWER TO YOU. Nuff said. Oh, for Barbara, and others: This is OUR community. Yours and mine. Lets remember to give each other a great deal of public respect to one another, and post the derogatory, insensitive comments to the fridge :)

ELAYNE

Barbara-Your attitude is something I hoped never to see; a member of the community not only turning their back on a sister, but discriminating as well. Your membership in the human race should be revoked for your callous indifference to members of a group that not too long ago you most probably aspired to join yourself. Where did you ever get the idea that you were superior to anyone? You have a short memory, sis, and one day that attitude will come back to haunt you in a big way.

daralynsmaxwell

I am transgendered no matter how I am dressed. It's not my body, it's not the clothes. It's the pscyhe deep inside of me that tells me about my feminine nature. I may not be completely a man and I am definitely not completely a woman. I know I wouldn't uncomfortable in either of the bipolar gender states. But I am somewhere in the midst of the gender continuum and for me that is not a comfortable place to be. You don't have to like being trangendered to be transgendered but it sure helps. You must accept yourself no matter who you are, what you are or how your dressed.

YWRH45A@PRODIGY.COM

I identified as a girl long before I realised we dressed differently. In fact I was always hurt and disappointed when I found out that some things were girls things and some were boy things. I really thought I was a girl. I have never lost that feeling and when deprived of the opportunity to dress I am again disappointed but that doesn't change my identity. No matter what I wear or how my body looks I am forever Larissa.

Larissa

Clothes or no clothes - I'm still me and that is what makes the difference. I still would be myself without as it is what is inside us that matters. Huggs, Jayne Nicole

Jayne Nicole

What? No clothes? SACRILEGE! Well to tell ya the truth clothes are the things that drives us Tv's. Without clothes there's no fun. Without clothes one just becomes nothing more than a man. Many Transsexuals I've talked to never have the love for female clothes as us Tv's have. Its understandable, they just want to change physical gender. Clothes is what makes a crossdresser a crossdresser. I don't think we tv's would be transgendered without clothes. We live for the illusion of being beautiful girls and without that illusion we are just men 100%. If ya don't agree with me then, NYAH NYAH! -See ya -Yolanda the nice girlee witch

Yolanda

Yes, I would still be a transsexual. The clothing is icing on the cake but I am still Susan no matter how I'd dressed or what I'm doing. I spent 20 years in the military with virtually no opportunity to dress but that did not change who I knew I was. How would I express it? By the way I acted, the way I treated others, and by the way I thought. I feel the most comfortable and natural when dressed but not being able to would not make me male, I would still be a transsexual.

Susan Ashleigh Thatcher

If the clothes were not available I would NOT be transgendered. This is one of the most thought provoking questions EVER asked ! Most of us believe we are female on the inside - our feelings, our desires, our perspective on life. But when it comes right down to the bottom line - I definately feel it is the clothes that I enjoy by far the most. Without the beautiful clothes life as a female would be impossible for me. I got started into this crazy world by the erotic feelings I had when dressed in the lingerie - and to this day I still get these same feelings. I no longer get turned on by dressing - when you do it every day of your life it becomes routine. But when I am dressed I feel sexy - I feel like I want to go out and turn "others" on !

Many evenings I get home from work all stressed out and feeling very tired. The thought of spending the next hour or so "painting" and getting dressed is a hassle. When I make the decision to go out and get all ready - it is amazing what happens. When I pull on that wig and look in the mirror - it is like "a shot of energy that shoots through my entire body.

Now I can't wait to hit it and get out into the real world and "work all the magic of being a girl". There is 'nothing' in the world like the feelings I get when I enter a restaurant or nightclub "dressed to kill". Like this past weekend when I went out with a friend of mine - another TS - we went to dinner at a straight packed restaurant. I knew that the second we entered the room - ALL eyes were on us. Later we went to a large nightclub and almost as soon as we entered some guys came over and asked us to join them at their table.

As they escorted us to the table and pulled out the chairs for us - I knew everyone was watching us and knew we were "special people". Call it "ego" - whatever - I dont care - dressed as a girl in all those super glamourous clothes - we were a hit. The clothes and the make up "make the feelings real" - it's all illusion. We live in a fantasy world and it is fabulous. Without the beautiful sexy clothes and all the make up, wigs, tape and paint and glue - that makes us "real". Male clothes are a total bore - I feel like a million other guys - but in a dress " Miss Debbie is a flaming drag queen " - proud and "hot / hot / hot" !!! I burn with excitement and adore every second she is alive. NOTHING could EVER replace the clothes.They bring out ALL the female feelings I have deep inside this body.

Love,

Debbie Allen

To Barbara: My, aren't you fortunate to happen to have been born with the 'right'genes to make you beautiful! Obviously, with your attitude towards the rest of us, that beauty is only skin-deep! You have a lot to learn about being a person. Who determines how sholud be 'allowed' out on the street? Some committee? Comprised of what 'experts'? Time for you to grow up and rejoin the human race, child.

Susan Ashleigh Thatcher

Puella vesta facit, the girl makes the clothes, clothes do not make the girl. I am transgendered, I would be transgendeed with or without female clothing. It is not about clothing, it is about the way I feel about myself, deep inside. I get together with other Ts, some times dressed, other times not, either way I am my self.

Diana Michaels

There was a article that touched on the subject of fitting in this week. That shure applies to me. I often have a hard time fitting in to a man's world, but I suppose that's true for many of us!! Get's harder as my femme side continues to emerge with time. How do you do it....maintain a normal (or I guess what society describes as normal) male life and live with these femme inner feelings and desires (and I dress and venture out just about once a week ....or a little longer...not enough for me) ? Thanks to all for any input and for just listening to my frustrations! It does get harder for me with time. Jennifer

Jennifer

I guess if clothes were not available, then I would be a naked TG girl. This probably would make it more dificult to pass.

Terrianne

By definition, the absence of clothes would have prevented me from becoming a crossdresser. I believe, though, that whatever made me take that route would have manifested itself in some way. As it is, I sometimes go for long periods of time in which crossdressing is just not possible. Nonetheless, I know Kerri is there. And if, for some reason, I could never wear female clothing again, Kerri would still be there. http://pages.prodigy.com/kerricd

Kerri Edwards

The question seems commical at first. Like do the clothes make the man or woman. Clothes are a part of who we are but the most important part is what's inside. If clothes were that important there probably wouldn't be many TG's Phyllis is me and it dosen't matter what the outside package happens to be. HUGS :)

Phyllis

If I did not have access to any womans clothes I would still be conveying my femme side. I often do not have the time to fully dress enfemme (we never have enough time!)but dress somewhat femme in clothes avalible from male clothing stores. For me its high healed shoes, sort of femme looking pants (soft, wide leg )soft wide sleeve shirts. Just sort of femme looking. I also will still have the femme feelings , thoughts, and dreams when in bed, quite often taking femme poses and also walking a little femme. For me the femme side would still be there, just not as obvious.

Jennifer

Dear 'ol Friends, I say that because it was about two years ago I discovered TG Forum and myself, But Cindy and all of you helped me come out and with the love and help from my dear lover Marilyn I am now sitting in a hotel room in Neenah, Wi. awaiting my SRS on Tuesday morning by the dear Dr. Schrang. Thank you Cindy, thank you dear friends, and thank you with deepest love and devotion, Marilyn. With Love, Kelly Ann Stiles

kelly ann stiles

I don't really know, but I bet you I'd find a way.

Christy Kay

I feel the opposite. It is awkward to browse consignment stores, because it is hard to justify "a gift for my wife" when the item cannot be returned. Consignment stores often have dressing rooms in clear view of the racks, and I have noticed that my browsing makes other women using the rooms uncomfortable.

Susan

I've met so many TV & TG amongst the racks of used clothing stores.We've had jolly good times making out there. With my small frame it's easy for me to pass. Frequently, I'm asked to their flats to help them with makeup or other problems. Heads do turn when people see us walking arm in arm.They don't notice me alone so I know it's my companion. There ought to be some way to keep the uglies off the street; they just cannot pass. Communities ought to have meeetings for them alone where they can dress for each other. We passers ought to be free to roam.

barbara

Prices are always great in the thrift shop by me, but that's not why I go there. I go because the help that works there is wonderful.No salesclerk in the department stores near me would help me try clothes on, as well as put something aside for me that comes in that they think would be perfect for me. After seeing my frustration of trying on four beautiful dresses that were all just a little too tight in the waist, this one sweet woman in the thrift shop near me brought out and then even helped me lace up a classic corset that she had in the back storeroom. It was PERFECT and really did the trick. They always make you feel comfortable, and seem fascinated by it all. This is not the type of service I get when I pay retail prices in the big stores, which is a shame.

Debbie

Have any of you girls tried any of the new sugar-based hair removal products on the market?? Sticky-icky and Oooey-gooey but they really remove the hair and leave my legs soft and feminine. Anyone have any suggestions on how to remove hair from my toes other than shaving? Email me and I'll swap smooth leg tips!! Ciao, Christine

Christine

Barbara, John "The Wad" Holmes was a star (if that's possible!) in xxx films. I saw one of them and felt totally inadequate for 3 months before it occurred to me that he could not possibly have used all of his...ummmm... endowment. He died of AIDS, by the way, so I suppose he used as much as he could in places he should have stayed away from.

Kerri

Some (me?) probably feel a little guilty about paying full price for the 'forbidden' pleasures. I hate to have more in one fem outfit for the alter-ego than the clothes I would wear, otherwise, in a month.

Gloria M

For me, thrift shows hold a facination because you never know what you're going to find. It's the thrill of the hunt. The prices are wonderful as well. The wardrobe certainly grows lots faster and can be changed more often when spending 7 to 12 dollars for say a leather skirt, rather than 39 - 59 dollars at an outlet or 100 or more at a retail store. It's also, I think, less likely for someone to come up to you while your looking around asking you if you need help at a thrift shop, as opposed to a retail store where it's expected.

Jessica Anne

I shop at used clothing stores like Salvation Army for the bargains. They have good clothing donated to them from the regular stores that still have the price tags on them. I filled out my wardrobe with the basics there and then go to the regular stores for the rest, usually buying during sales. I'm comfortable at regular stores as I do have charges with several women's shops (with Jayne's name on them of course!) and shop enfemme or drab. Alot has to do with confidence. If you act like everyone else there is no problem, you blend in (provided you dress like them also!). Huggs, Jayne Nicole

Jayne Nicole

All this is so new to me. I am from rural S. Africa in the USA on sch olarship.I've been with one girl who told me I was more endowed than a John Holmes (who is he?). I want SRS but she says don't do anything before getting an agent. What does that mean? What does an agent do? How can he help me become female? These things are so private, I'm glad I found this place Is there someone who can advise me? The way I am it is difficult to dress and being in school makes coming out very difficult. I love you all.Barbra

barbara

HI ALL!!! I don't quite know how to start this BUT I need some help. I have seen so many movies about Drag queens....(if thats not being offensive, I hope not). I am not really all that familiar with the culture BUT I have developed a admiration for this generation of people and would like to learn more and maybe make some friends along the way. I am a psychology student and trust me I have a very open mind about life in general. I grew up in a very straight and strict enviroment BUT have developed a very open about a lot of things. I do not stereotype and by far believe that every and each individual is entitled to their very uniquie and personal identity. Thats what makes this world so cultural and diverse.

cyntthia

cyntthia utley

Second hand clothing stores tend not to be located in big malls. They are rather located in smaller plazas which attract fewer people. They also tend to attract a higher percentage of women. (Dressing as a woman is something that I have in common with women so I don't feel out-of-place or intimidated. The owners and operators seem to be more accepting of crossdressing. It is simply a more friendly experience.

Ericha

Used shops? I never thought about using them, really. I like getting dressed up and going to Contempo, Nordstrums, The Limited, and all the fashionable mall stores. They always have the latest styles and the salesgirls always want to help you. Plus if you change your mind you can take it back with no problem. Mall shopping is always an adventure!

Revy

I have been unable to locate the press on glue tabs for nails. These were very easy to use for short times (one night ect.)and did not destroy the plastic nails. I have a large collection of colored nails the super glue and remover is great for an entire weekend, yet the acetone in the remover makes a mess of everything. I have tried all of the chain drug stores in the South Bay area (San Jose)and even several of the beauty mart type stores. All say they've been discontinued. Any suggestions ??

Laurie T

I used to shop in charity shops because the clothes could be thrown away if they didn't fit or when the next inevitable 'purge' came. Dresses for $5, skirts for a dollar you couldn't go wrong. Somewhere along the line I lost my fear of being seen as a male interested in buying dresses and I started asking clerks if I could try on outfits. I was rarely refused the chance so long as the store didn't have any other coutomers. Now I'm at another level. Linda shops for herself as Linda. It's a great feeling and I'm usually able to resist buying my try ons. So in answer to the question "why do we prefer second hand stores?" I think it's a matter of stages. We go through different stages and and what is one's 'thing' this year may not be so in years to come. Happy shopping.

Linda Jensen

I'm still thinking about Halloween so forgive my delayed response. It was wonderful! I dressed from head to toe in the most feminine lingerie I own, then topped it off with a short but pretty dress that a secretary might wear. I went to a salon and had them curl my hair and do my makeup and felt my feminine best by the time I left. I went to a costume party at a local bar where I met several very attractive females who just loved my outfit. I danced with a few, had drinks with others, and flirted with a couple more. All commented on how pretty I looked. All admired my shapely legs (freshly shaven). This was a straight bar and I even got a couple invitation to dance males. I am strictly hetero and turned them down but it made me feel that I had truly passed. I loved every moment!! Jane

There is a goodwill I love to shop. It is a $1.00 a pound I just love rumaging through the piles of clothes. There are some beautiful skirts and blouses, dresses etc. I have bought a few prom dresses only to take them home and find out I can't zip them up because of my manly chest. I can fill my wordrobe up rather cheaply there and have been considered a regular. I ususally try to hide most of my sexiest pieces wraped in "T" shirts or some other male garment. It is rather unconspicuous and I recommend it to any one that is a casual dresser, for one doesn't have to spend a lot a money and it is amasing how big a wardrobe one can acquire. All big city goodwills usually has a as is pay by the pound. Believe me they are sex siting. Have fun

some40

I asked this week's question, and now I find a new twist. My local outdoor and camping store is advertising "full time positions in women's clothing." I like the corduroy and cotton things they sell, but the prices are high. Does this mean they might pay me for wearing their skirts and dresses? Sounds too good to be true.

Emily Alford

By buying used you dont have to deal with sales clerks that ask too many questions. Money is definitely a big factor. A new silk blouse ( I love the feel of them) starts at $40 to $60! Pretty pricy when you can get a like new for one forth that. Of course those of you that are really pretty and pass well deserve to buy new! I wish I could! Take care and Hugs to all my new girlfriends. I feel released and free to talk with you all!! Hugs Julie

Julie307

The preference for shopping in used clothing stores is probably a combination of the cheaper cost and the more open - look and shop for yourself type of setup. I prefer to go to the regular stores and know that something is brand new and can be returned if wrong size etc. For a lot of girls there is a feeling that "a real female wore these clothes" - and that could be a turn on for some people - particularly lingerie. One thing for sure - used clothing stores are a lot cheaper to build a wardrobe - and get a lot more for the abvailable cash. It is also a real "hit or miss" trip. I could go a dozen times to a used clothing store and find nothing - and then there it is in my size - exactly what I was looking for - or something so unique and different you could not find it in a regular store. I have found an upscale consignment store near where I live and the owner knows exactly the kinds of things I like. Then she calls me - and I go to check it out. I have found some beautiful clothes in this store - and the lady owner knows all about Debbie.

Debbie Allen

I've found only one consignment shop that is T-friendly, and I've shopped there a couple of times. I think the reason it's more comfortable is that these shops are owner -operated, so every sale counts. Our money can make a difference between the shop making a profit or going into the red for the month. The econmics of small business demand that every potential customer who comes in the store end with a cash transaction. I deal with small business owners in my everyday life so I know how hard it is for them to make a buck. In regular retail stores you deal mostly with employees who don't care about the success or failure of the company - to them it's just a day job. So their own predjudices follow them into the job. Mary Beth Cooper

Mary Beth Cooper

Money is part of it, but consignment shops tend to be small businesses, run by private individuals. Once you have made yourself known at a shop to the management, they may accomodate your needs and privacy, and they get in turn a loyal customer and more customers like us. Our money is green after all. Anne

anne

I am so glad I stayed up a bit longer this morning, else I doubt if I would have found this "great site". I have been Crossdressing since I was about 14, (now 35) I live Australia and unfortunately the places to meet and or shop is very limited. As far as finding contacts, friends to chat, socalize with and most importantly girl talk, it is almost impossible. I tried the gay clubs, but as I am hetro I felt uncomfortable. My partner is of the concept "out of sight out of mind", which at can be hard to cope with. (Why I ever split up with my ex!#@$%^%&%&%??? now Lisa was a real gem). Sorry there I go again, giving you my life history, when I really should keep it short. In essence what I wanted to say is; I am so glad I found you all. As you well know it can be really hard going at it alone, at least now I feel I have a real conection to those who are with me, not against me.

In closing I send my love to all

Rebecca

The smell of woman on used clothing helps to solidify the emotional connection to my female side. The effect is powerful with a new purchase, but it wears off after just a couple of washings. Perhaps this also helps explain the desire to shop frequently, and why a recent purchase is so much more satisfying.

Joanna

For my part,I don't normally shop at second-hand shops. It isn't like I wouldn't, i just don't normally. When I do, it is decause I can generally get some really nice stuff that I don't have to feel guilty for altering on my sewing machine when I get home. Personally, though, I like the styles that are in the malls these days, and so I usualy shop there.

Daphnye

Most of us are a little larger than some I'm a size 18 most retail stores cater to the size 7 to 13 crowd we are prone to look for classier clothes and I seem to be able to find them Easier in some of the upscale resale shops. And saving a few dollars doesn't hurt. Price is not the important factor quality is. HUGS

Phyllis

I like to shop at used clothing stores, because I love the idea that what I am wearing was worn by a real woman in real life circumstances, before I got the chance to wear it.

Debi Johnson

Help. I am desperate. I know tha sound cliche, and old, but it is true. I need to find a group in the Morris County area of New Jersey where I can be accepted. I am 6'10" tall, and have a definitely masculine appearance. I want so much to be accepted the way I wish to dress (in a dress, of course) and I do not have a social life to support this. I am not as concerned with passing (I wish!) as I am with basic acceptance. My Grilfriend is very accepting and extremely supportive, but we both want to be able to be with our (new?) friends when I am dressed. Is there a place I can go? People who I can meet?

Daphnye

The term Narcissistic refers to dwelling on ones self comfort and reverting back to early sexual developement. Since our sexuality was not recognised and we forced to fit into society's molds, we did not have a chance to begin our sexual dvelopement. With the realization of our true inner self we were/are able to begin our developement and are appropriate in our behavior when considering our true sexual age. We are late bloomers, not narcissists persons.

Patti

Our story (my husband is Dawn) is posted this week. To answer those who have been kind enough to read my account, thank you for taking the time. I have been asked by a few people if the story is true. YES! I love Dawn, she loves me, and I believe we will be fine. Yes, I only know of 1 other marriage that is still happy after coming out (and they have no kids), but we will begin a new trend!

Regards to all....

Wendy

How does one become more feminine? What can one do to look more feminine?

Amber

Nacissists? Statistically, this trait is more true of TV's than TS's, but not exclusively. I think it's because most crossdressers are attracted to women and their femme side represents the ultimate expression of femaleness projected out into that image in the mirror. They want HER to be as attractive and beautiful as possible because she is to live up to his ideal image of femininity. She is the Anima and there is an mental/sexual affair going on. She is a fantasy made real and must look her best so that the male side as well as the rest of the world will believe she is real.

Revy

I've been walking around for five weeks with my left arm in a cast, after shattering my elbow in a fall. I quickly found that closing trousers and putting things in pockets is really hard with one hand--more reason than ever to prefer skirts and a handbag. But today, working at home all day, I've dressed fully for the first time since the accident, and I find that hooking a bra is just as difficult. I haven't even thought about makeup. Maybe it's a metaphor for our whole situation.

Emily Alford

I just read the story by Wendy "MY GIRL" and it brought tears to my eyes. How true of a story, I wish the very best to Wendy and Dawn. I hope my SO will be that understanding. If you have not read this, You must. HUGS, Terrianne.

Terrianne

I am a lesbian researcher/author, writing a book on coming out, before and after, the pain and the joy. I am using stories from people in the les/bi/gay/trans community. I need your story! To send me your story or ask further questions write to manyfaces@cedar-rapids.net. If you send your story, I ask that I be permitted to edit it to fit the book or to ask additional questions. There is no length constraint, since we each have a unique story to tell, and it may take several words to share our experiences. You may include poetry, as long as it is something you have written about who you are. Hope to hear from you soon.

Thanks,

Carol Riels

Narcissists? It goes with the closet. Many of us were unable -- for most of our life -- to let anybody else into our world. (I tried as a child. It wasn't the best of ideas.) With nobody in our worlds but ourselves, who else ARE we to admire? Which is why it's so important to come out of that closet, and take others' hands. Narcissism can be a lonely, lonely thing.

Rose Prescott

First time visitor.WOW! some of these girls ;) are REAL knockouts. I'd like to become real CLOSE to them, if you know what i mean. they just took my breath away. how do I become a member? Lyles

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Mickey

We are narcissists. We love looking at ourselves in the mirror and also in our admirers' faces. We can hardly be blamed for that. It is a work of art that some took a lifetime making, re-making, polishing,... Who could blame a mother for staring admiringly at her child for hours on end? Kisses, Olga.

Olga V. Cambasani

Hi! I'm in the process of putting together an article on support groups for TGForum's webzine and need your help to complete it. Specifically, I'm looking for input as to why you do (or do not) belong to tg support groups, the benefits to you, if any, from belonging and your ideas of what could be done to make them better. I have "interviewed" several of our tg community leaders (Carol Beecroft, JoAnn Roberts, etc.) and have their views but I need some thoughts from the members and non-members. Thanks for your help! http://pages.prodigy.com/kerricd

Kerri Edwards

I really enjoyed the column by Emily Alford. I hope that our status has made us more sensitive to women. I think that is true for me, but I backslide sometimes. Such sensitivity might be one benefit of being transgendered. Otherwise, I have a hard time finding benefits, except for the intense pleasure of dressing.

Stephanie Ann

Well maybe we are all narcissists. However, I believe that any really fashionable woman also has to be a bit of a narcissist. That is pretty much the gist of the quote from Jane Austin that I posted earlier in the week. Of course, Narcissus was a man, and I don't want to think of myself that way, thank you.

Stephanie Ann

My best halloween costume I went as a cheerleader. My wife and her girl freind dressed me up I wore my favorite nylons leggs shear energy white knee socks black short cheerleader skirt skirt white top. they both did my hair and makeup. that was the most fun I've had on halloween night.

Diane

Every Halloween my mother would suggest that I dress as a girl. When I was 12 I finally had the nerve to do it and agreed. She dressed me in a red dress with nylon stockings, a slip, red pumps and dangle earrings. She painted my nails bright red, and made up my face with powder, blush red lipstick and mascara. I had the time of my life as I walked around and visited every house in the neighborhood. Some people thought I really was a girl, and my parents and neihgbors all told me how great I looked.

Marianne

I gotta spend ome time in Elizabeth / Princeton NJ in the near future. Any interesting hetero CD locations worth checking out or do I have to go to NYC?

Maggie

I am a narcissist because now that I can express my true self I am so incredibly wonderful I almost can't stand it. Vikki

Vikki

Am I a Narcissist or just plain crazy? After hours spent on makeup and dressed in my best bra, tap pants, garter belt and stockings, I invite my twins into my room to whip me into submission. My makeup runs, my tap pants become soiled and I want to transform into a new life in a different world where I can be any gender I want depending on my mood. Bless and hugs for listening. Barbra
I think we seem to be narcissists, because indirectly we ARE narcissists. I love to admire myself in the mirror so I can behold my femininity visually. I'd love to be the woman in the mirror, and I am the woman in the mirror at the same time. It sort of is a narcissism of the alter ego. Chris

Chris

It strikes me that like teenagers, narcissism is something we have to go through as we explore ourselves and our possiblities. It's true for CD people who finally stop denying and for TS people who say "yes, I am going down this road." It's natural. But a big part of growing up is that this natural, intense self- preoccupation turns into calm self-acceptance that we take for granted as we deal with world and other people. Then the narcissism fades and we can simply be who we are.

Emily Alford

I Think That We Lose The Inhibition To Be The Person We Would Really Rather Be When Dressed-up.We Become Someone Where Anything Is Possible.!

joy

Why do so many of us seem to be narcissists? I for one, cannot beleive the transformation from Chris to Christy. I have to keep looking to see if it's real.

Christy Kay

Narcissists? Part of it could be because some of us repressed our true feelings for so long that now that we are happy and comfortable with who we are we want to let others know. It may be a bit narcissistic but as a TG maybe we should be. I really enjoy dressing and letting others see me for who I am. HUGS to all. Phyllis

Phyllis

I do not know if narcissism is the right word, but anyway, given my/our situation, who can can better care of me than myself??? And what is more, is it really narcissism trying to be a nice lady??? Anyway I like me that way (and I would also like to know more people that like me that way...) and what I see on the mirror is sometimes pretty nice. Kisses

Julie

OH how I envy those that can pass, being in my 50's and too large and ugly to pass I look forward to halloween for that one night I can "get away with it", my favorite going out outfit is a dark plaid jumper w\white blouse, dark pantyhose and 3" heels,( how do you girls walk in those things?), a beautiful brown wig and makeup designed for me by cosmetician friend. Still can't get it good enough for everday though. Yes, I am very fortunate to have supportive wife and friend. JAN_RACHAEL NORTH CAROLINA

JAN_RACHAEL

My note is not exactly about Halloween, but I just ran across this wonderful passage in a book by Jane Austin, who has become a favorite author since I saw the movies. She realized back in 1800 that a woman dressed for her own satisfaction. I am sure that is true for us too. The part that makes it almost Halloween relevant is that it is from her parody of a gothic novel.

"It would be mortifying to the feelings of many ladies could they be made to understand how little the heart of a man is affected by what is costly or new in their attire . . . . Woman is fine for her own satisfaction alone."

Stephanie Ann

The best one I've worn? I'm limited somewhat due to being very big and having exactly one person who knows who I really want to be. A long black pleated skirt, black ruffled blouse, a black jacket, and a tasteful scarf. A wavy long brown wig, careful makeup, and nice pumps, and I managed, to actually pass in a drugstore while buying the fingernails to finish the job. This year, I'll do better, take more risks. My first time admitting I like to do this; first time online; gotta find a place/org in Louisville to dress more often Anne

anne

My Halloween favourite? A slinky black Elvira style oufit with great make-up and all accessories, including beautiful lingerie. My girfriend in a top hat, tails and vampir make-up. After the party, a night of fantastic lovemeking on my first Halloween in the USA! Gina, Australia.
I've been crossdressing for over twenty years. Been married for ten years now and wife still does not know about me. Best Halloween was years ago before I knew my wife. Needed a costume for a party and casually mentioned to friends that I should go as a woman. My sister bought clothes for me--a short,black chiffon skirt; a black satin blouse with silver trim at the collar and cuffs; black sheer nylons; and silver strappy 4" heels. My best friend's wife did my makeup--dark, smoky eyes and pouty red lips set off by rosy blushed cheeks. Everyone was amazed by my transition; where an average looking young man had once stood was now a sexy, attractive young woman. I felt great and fooled many people including some friends. I was also propositioned more than once. I've been out often enough since but never enjoyed it so much. Love to chat..........Renee

Renee

I am a 50 year old, happily married , grandfather. I have been fascinated and aroused by the sight of women in hairdressing situations, especially those involving drying the hair with the large hood dryers that were in use when I was a child. My excitement varies depending on the equipment and items used such as curlers or rollers, type of hair net and ear coverings, capes, bibs, towels and design of the dryer. My arousal is peaked even further if the woman is smoking and/or receiving a manicure or pedicure while being dried. My arousal increases as I ponder what her sensations might be such as how uncomfortable it must be during long drying sessions, does she perspire causing her makeup to run, etc., etc., and is she as aroused by her situation as I am by observing her. With my recent exposure to the Internet, I have discovered the descriptions of Crossdressing and I am puzzled by the possibility that I may really desire to be in her clothes,in her situation,experiencing what she is experiencing, not just aroused by the scenes I have described. I would appreciate suggestions and discussion from anyone interested in my situation. Jess

Jess

Can anyone tell me who won the raffles at the San Francisco Gender Fair a few weeks back. I have tried to find out but to no avail, could someone give me that info? Thank You! hccc52a@prodigy.com

Mark

The best Halloween costume was a sequined gown, with my reddish-brown wig, heavy eye makeup, and bright red lipstick. It was great fun.

Fran

Halloween! Coolness! Ok, my favorite Halloween costume was when I went out as a female comic book character named Death, and I imitated her black body-hugging clothes -- in this case, a tight lace mini-dress, and wore her silver ankh around my neck as is her trademark. My makeup was perfect and when my girlfriend saw me for the first time, she couldn't believe I did it myself! My long hair was styled and when I entered the party, my girlfriend greeted me with a kiss. I heard people behind us shout, "Look! There's two lesbians kissing! I loved that part. I'm still remembered as the hottest chick there! :)

Revy

We all know the price of silicone breast forms. Some of may have seen ads in women's magazines for a product called Curves. At $129 it's cheaper, but still costs some bucks. I''ve just seen two ads that promise the same, but a lot cheaper. One is for Accents,at three payments of $29.95. The address is P.O. Box 401, Dept SSF116, Van Nuys CA 91408, or 1-800 597 6161. They take Amex, Visa, MC, and Discover. The other seems astonishing. The product is called ShapeUp and the cost is S49.95. For MC and Visa orders call 1-800-345-6602. For check and money order, add $7.95 s and h and send to Beauty Systems, Dept. I.9, PO Vox 810, Solana Beach CA 92075. Additional information can be gotten on 619 481 9892.

Francesca

I am a transgendered man , and I think its good that there is some support out there for us tg's. I hope it will erase all the blatant ignorance in this world, by a sometimes very cruel cultural society

Matt Greene

Favorite Halloween costume? I like to go as a "bad dream". . .you know, the one where you're out in public and everyone knows you're a guy in drag? On Halloween I can do this and not feel bad about it. Which is part and parcel about the other question about demonstrations. . . I don't want to masquerade as someone else; I want to be just me. On Halloween (3 days away) I can drag myself into the public forum and not worry about who might know I'm male. Dennis Rodman can do this any day. I get to do it one day a year. . .

giorgio

My favorite Halloween night was three years ago. A local bar was having a "La Cage" night and anyone crossdressed was let in for free. My wife did my makeup and helped me dress up in a mid-calf black dress with matching heels. We went to the bar and I was complimented by quite a few of the women there. I had such a great time I didn't want it to end. This year it looks like the maid will be making an appearance..... My love to all. Have a Happy and Safe Halloween!

P.S. Tara me luv! *kisses*

Linda/NYC

Favorite Halloween Costume...has to be this year's costume. My wife and I went to a party this weekend as Lois and Clark...and I got to be Lois! It was my first time out dressed...and it was great. Stylish makeup, a great new Anne Taylor suit, and a hip wig made me the star of the party. People had no idea it was me dressed as the attractive young lady...and were stunned to find out there was a man underneath the great costume. What a great party!

Have a great Halloween -- Donna Kelly

Donna Kelly

My halloween costume was a beautiful black evening dress with glitter and see through mesh panels around the shoulders and 19" from the waist. My SO was, and is, very supportive in her (his) double breasted suit, tie and suspenders. This was truly crossdressing. This was a great experience for me to show up at (of all mucho places) a Harley Owners Group party. My SO wants me to be more overt and has suggested shopping trips and going out to dinner in drag, rather than drab. At 50 I am still inhibited about letting others see me for who I am even though I have accepted this gift. Having a crossdressing SO in a heterosexual relationship is the biggest christmas gift any TV could beg for. She is at ease in advising me of stance, walking and other conduct befitting the woman I like to be.

As for PICKETING!! If done with to much trashy drag queen overtones, it may result in negative publicity. Support the annual L,G,Bi & TG freedom day parades and act like the lady you want to be recognized as. Lindsay.

Lindsay, Mtn View, Ca.

Tonight it is October 28, just two days before Halloween. There is a full moon tonight and with every full moon that I see, Iím reminded of the Werewolf for who on this night changes in the monster that he really is. As with him each time that there is a full moon I too wish to change. No luck so far.

This time is different though because on coming out to the Better Half I feel like the Wolf, trapped in a cage surrounded on all sides by iron bars which despite my best efforts will not move or even give a little. I do have an out though and itís sure fire way. It will solve everything.

Dawn

I think my Elvira mistress of the dark. I look great and felt great. The makeup was done by a dancer friend of mine. She even boeeowed the outfit for her party. Hugs to all

Phyllis

Well ...I would have to say that My "CATWOMAN" costume was the best --Because Cindy Chose it for the Halloween Pictoral --Lead in Photo (below). But this Halloween starting tonight, 10/26/96, I will be wearing my New Dominatrix Outfit to a party , alsoI will be at partys Wed -Thur, and next Saturday . I just bought a new pair of Platform Thigh High lace up boots,with 6in. Stilletto Heels at the Dressing For Pleasure party we attended Oct. 17 -20 in New Jersey. I will wear that with my Skintight Leather mini, Long Black Leather Gloves, Black Leather Bodysuit, Seamed Danskin Fishnet Stockings, My Studded belt and Bracelets, Exotic Makeup with Long Dramatic Eyelashes, Jet black Mid Back Wavy Hair, Red-Red Lips with Gloss. Lets see if I can turn a few heads like that!!!! Maybe win a contest !! --I have before Thanx Girls and Thanx to Cindy for her "HALLOWEEN Pictoral" I Love Showing off ! ...Roxanne

Roxanne

My best costume was the one I used this year, because I was out in public as a woman. I was a Harem Girl and won third palce in my category. It was also at a PPOC party. Tonight will be to a basically straight party. But I will will be dressed in a short black skirt and leopard tie up.

Roxane

I a 45 year old tv with around 40 years experience; but still in the closet- and its driving me crazy- What does this have to do with Haloween- I have not shared this with my wife- but I think she knows and approves-I think she has bi tendencies. Anyway- this halloween she is meeting me in NYC while I am on business- we're going to a party- I hope she's not too surprised! I've been preparing already - shaving etc. I been shaving my legs for months-no comment from my wife- but a lot of leg touching in bed- rubbing etc- I sometime think I'm a little crazy to go through with this- but Karen keeps taking over my - I'll post the results- lovev to hear any comments and suggestions Huggs Karen

Karen Zelm

If you are reading this you are interested or part of the Transgender Family. If you live in Southeastern Ontario, I would like to here from you. Why? It time for the Transgender Community in the Kingston, Bellville, Brockville, Peterborogh areas to come alive. HOw? Let me know who you are and were you are, Contact:

Gender Metaphor
829 Northwest Road,
Suite 715
Kingston, Ontario

or
genmet@adan.kingston.net
or join me and my friends for coffee every morning at TG Chat daily from 5:30 to 7:00 EST am daily
HUGS

Michelle RenÈe
Gender Metaphor
Kingston, Ontario
Canada

Michelle RenÈe

Pickets CAN serve a usual purpose by making us more visible, but any benefits can be wiped out if the pickets themselves project a negative image of transgendered people. I think a more effective way to educate people about transgendered people is simply to come out of the closet and TALK TO PEOPLE on a one-to-one basis.

After I transitioned in May, I wrote letters and sent pictures to my former employer and the crisis center where I volunteered and asked that they be posted for my former co-workers and sister volunteers to see. I got several nice letters and telephone calls in return -- all supportive. I offered no apologies for who I am -- I simply explained what was going on in my life. I transitioned on my job with no problems, and discussed the issue with any of my co-workers who expressed curiosity. I also was open in discussing my transsexualism with sister volunteers at the suicide and crisis center for which I volunteer my time here in Albuquerque. Again, everyone was supportive.

In fact, I was recently elected to the organization's board of directors. I have discussed transgendered issues with three of my professors at the University of New Mexico -- both in person and in papers. Although none took me up on my offer to discuss transgendered or transsexual issues in class, all included information I supplied (included my objections to inaccurate textbook treatments) in lectures. I have made a lot of new friends since I stopped hiding and began living. You can help people better understand transgendered people by simply TALKING TO THEM with pride, confidence, and honesty. People pick up attitudes quickly, so don't be ashamed of who you are. Good luck!

MRupe

Picketing, yea or nay. As an implementations person by profession, let's make an assumption. We will Picket. Purpose?

To make a positive public display resulting in greater societal acceptance of our T-ness. To piggy-back on sallyanne's (?) posting, what people remembered about the NY Times coverage of such an event was that a bunch of men were in drag. We all know that this has a negative connotation and that the likleyhood of a similarly structured repeat would have similarly negative public impact. How do we IMPLEMENT a positive public display (not a picket- you come up with a positive euphemism) that will attain the required objective? I've got an idea, let's hear yours. I see the primary obstacle as potential negative press. Why? Pictures speak a thousand words. Take the visual away from the press as a weapon. Let a few dedicated T's come as genetic fathers, husbands, wives. The so-called "normal" elements of society standing up for the right to be transgendered. Of course the logistics of the event would need to be worked out- What is the best way to communicate the purpose? Verbage on the signs? Pictures?

Lauren

I am looking for a cd,ts,tv friendly doctor in the minneapolis MN area. Any replys would be very helpful. Sara

Sara Hanson

Picketing, like any other form of communication between people is going to be effective 20% of the time. As in public speaking you are addressing a population of 100 people, of those 100 40 like what you are saying or are a part of your "movement", 40% are against your statement and will not be swayed from their beliefs. The most picketing can hope for is to reach the 20% that is left, who have not made up their minds pro or con to your statements. Picketing can raise the awareness of the public to our lifestyle but, it can also backfire very publicly on world news especially when something goes wrong. The wrong may not be of our makeing but, the news media cares only for headlines. Bottom line, use pickets wisely, and have a plan for when it all goes wrong.

Cynthia Roberts

I belive picketing is a useful way for our community to be accepted. It shows people that we to are human and have the same dreams, wants and needs as everyone else. Another importaint aspect is education to show people that we are not the freaks that they think us to be. I belive as time goes by that we will be accepted by the general population.

Nina

Yes, but I would like to add that picketing and demonstrations can be used for evil as well as for good. If you feel it necessary to picket make sure it is for a cause the is morally sound. Picketing for an unjust cause may do more harm than good.

Suzanna

The answer is YES !!! If we stay in the closet, we'll never be accepted as true human beings, we'll always stay a subject of laughing for narrow-minded persons. From my own experience, I can affirm that, by explaining, fighting against common places, lot of people can open their eyes. If women and gays stood still, world could never be changed ! Ioanna

Ioanna

Reading the comments from Patti and Kerri, I've got to agree that commmunity action will do more to show society that we are a valuable part of the community, and not some side show in the circus. I've always felt one gains more by being supportive than by being confrontive.

Christy Kay

Politics do not make good bed fellows. Positive community action will yeild a more positive image. By helping the homeless, working in soup kitchens, cleaning up the waterways, roadways etc. the statement "that we want a better place for all to live" will be made. When you step into a negative light it taints the picture. Actions that support a positive moral, ehtical legal action will do far greater good. As a group, we have a great deal of social education to do. As women, are actions need to be nurturing.

Patti

I'm new to the net, and luckily found Dana Gene's page through a special gal in Sweden named Katarina. Since I'm thousands of miles away in Nevada, that seems amazing. I'm so far only out of the closet on the net. At this point the best I can do is look androgynous. I'm having some luck with Evanesce, and a cream Revlon puts out call Eterna 27. To say I thilled would be a gross understatement. (I might have to really come out) My background is journalism, and business. Corresponding with the girls in the TG comunity has been a life saver. In receiving e-mail, and answering it I've learn a great deal about myself. Hugs, Rosemary

Rosemary

I am collecting information for the girls. The results will be made known here and other TG sites. Please E-mail the following information if you will. 1. What types of hormones and the dosage i.e. Premarin @ x.x mg, Progesterone @x mg, Aldactone, etc. etc. 2. Results of hair difference on body, face, and head. 3. Age 4. How long on hormones. Thanks everyone. Denise.

Denise

No...Pickets only separate the demonstrator from the audience. To be truly effective in molding public opinion, one must make the audience identify closely with the demonstrator. If you did choose to picket, the best way to do it would be to dress as conservatively as possible (i.e.: MTF TV in their boy clothes, etc.)

Ronnie

Hi I would like to know what SRS is and what it does.

Debra Ann

This is all just too amazing. Its wonderful. I don't know where to start. There is such gentlness, beauty, niceness and sweetness.. I'm brand new and need someone to talk to. I want the whole operation. Though, I'm really diffrent, 'She' is not a sexy gurl like the others, just a quiet, shy, kindof scraggly little thing, but thats what I prefer. Not a problem with clothing or anything else because I make my clothing and shoes and collect vintage clothing for 'Her'. Wow there is such a peace, contentment and calmness in my heart now. Is this natural? Guess I should write on it, as I am a writer. I hope someone who has made the transition will befriend me, because I don't plan on telling current friends. That life is behind me, I finally like me. Oh yea, I'm straight as an arrow, but the mannerisms are natural and shocking people. Bye for now, Crissa

Crissa

My first time out in public was on Halloween,and my 1st wife and her friend got me all dressed up.While i was there a man i no kept hitting on me,to my suprise my wife kept telling me to go for it so i did.It was FANTASTIC.

Debra Ann Johnson

It's hard to think of all the role models, I've had so many. But specifically, I think of Marlee Matlin (deaf actress), Cathy Hearn (U.S. Olympics), Jocelyn Bell (scientist) and the late Judith Resnick (astronaut). spunky

spunky

I DON'T SEE PICKETING AS A WAY TO ELICIT A FAVORABLE RESPONSE FROM THE 'STRAIGHT' COMMUNITY, OR THE OTHER PARTS OF THE LARGER 'GAY' COMMUNITY. ( I *HATE* LABELING)!! TO ME, PICKETING REPRESENTS A 'BUNCH OF FANATICS/FREAKS TRYING TO POUND THEIR IDEAS INTO SOMEONE'S HEAD', WHETHER I AGREED WITH THEIR POSITION OR NOT. PERHAPS IF THE PICKETING WAS DONE IN AN EXTREMELY TASTEFUL WAY, THE IMAGE OF " A BUNCH OF DRAGS QUEENS WITH BIG SIGNS" WON'T BE ACHEIVED. SELDOM HAVE I SEEN A RESPECTABLE PICKET LINE; THE NEWS PORTRAYS THE 'LINE' AS A TICKING TIME-BOMB, WAITING FOR POLICE INTERVENTION. IT'S USEFULNESS IS IN DIRECT PROPORTION TO THE SERIOUSNESS OF IT'S PARTICIPANTS. OBVIOUSLY, I'M OPINIONATED, BUT I HOPE I'M ALSO BALANCED ENOUGH IN MY REMARKS TO MAKE SENSE. Elayne

ELAYNE

I live in Hollywood, CA and I want to meet other young >girls< my age who are serious about their future (ie. college, career, modeling, whatever). A great proportion of the girls I meet are resigned to prostitution, or performing in clubs, which is no long-term career, in my opinion.

We girls MUST stick together, because the world wants to chew us up and spit us out. There are so many resources to us girls, but so many just don't know. It doesn't matter where you live, there is ALWAYS someone there to help, or listen. Your's truly, Elayne

Elayne

I was wondering, if there are any post-op TS's, who had recto sigmoid transplantation done. All I've heard about the results (second-hand) is negative. I am interested in the procedure myself and would like an honest general opinion. Thanx.

Ellen Morris

I had originally changed my name to Stacie, as well as my driver's license (and to reflect the the change in gender to female)and was successful in changing all my other important records. I sought help from high sources in changing my birth records. I was taking hormones, but not yet cross-dressing or in the process of electrolysis. I was scheduled for a lyrenectomy to boot; I, nonetheless, turned away from it all...it is extremely hard to be gender dysphoric - I ended a military career to confront it. You can gather from this message that it's not over...any suggestions.

Daniel N. Flaherty

I agree wholeheartedly that the tg community should become more active and visible to the general public and that we must do something to overturn its perception of us as perverts and freaks. Our first and biggest need, however, is to gain some degree of acceptance, understanding and respect from society and, especially, our families, friends, co-workers, and neighbors. While I am not at all sure that picketing and an "in your face" confrontational approach is the answer to the fulfillment of that need, I am quite certain that we will never achieve it in our closets. Hugs to all! http://pages.prodigy.com/kerricd

Kerri Edwards

Although there is a place for open demonstrations, I feel that we t's have been put into a less than favorable light with the recently publicized Transexual Menace demonstrations in Washington DC. For those who did not see it, the New York Times published a photo of a group of t's in the Washington Metro. Unfortunately, people with whom I spoke who had seen the photo recalled that the t's were men in drag and did not recall much about the article itself.

When homosexuality became less of a closet issue in the mid-1970's the Times published several favorable stories about gay males who looked like normal people. I believe that this early sympathetic publicity helped all gays become more accepted by the population at large than would have been the case, had the Times not signaled its approval by using sympathetic artiles and graphics.

Yes, there is a time for demonstrations. But, first, we need to become viewed as normal men or women who happen to have been born with a birth defect corrected by surgery and pharmacueticals.

Sallyanne

Picketing and demonstrations have always brought attention to the public eye, regardless of the cause. I'm a firm believer in espousing information on the TG community whenever and wherever possible. Picketing and demonstrations is just one more way to bring us all in the TG community before the public eye. If it wasn't for the demonstrations in the late 1960's against the war in southeast asia who knows when it would have ended. Kent State was a turning point in American history. Though our cause is not as important as the demonstrations against the war it is important to all of us, our families, and friends.

SABRINA

sabrina@mercury.net

I would appreciate any info on the following: (1) Possible coverage of SRS expenses by MediCal(the California Medicaid program.) (2) Any advice regarding having an orchiectomy(surgical removal of the testicles), including MediCal coverage. (3) Electrolysis in the genital area in anticipation of SRS. (4) The use of Estinyl compared to Premarin. Thanks very much for your attention.

Rose

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CATHY

Debbie, I do admire you. You are really brave. I agree again ( the main topic ).Don't you have a home page? You should have one. Take care.

Katrina

Role model would have to be Dennis Rodman and his high-camp drag routines. I mean, is this guy having a good time or what?!! The guy is so up front about his cross-dressing that he flaunts it rather than masquerading as a woman. So I guess I don't really want to pass as a woman, I just want to dress like one. . . What's that all about?

giorgio

VCR ALERT!! again. . . The Learning Channel (TLC) has been running and re-running an extended (2 hr?) documentary about an SRS over a period of about 7 years. No, I didn't happen to get the name, but TLC advertises these specials regularly. (I'm not a shill for TLC either. . . ) ciao,

giorgio

HI. New to West Hollywood and the TG scene. Looking for friends and resources. Particularly interested in a reccommendation for a place to get a makeover. Looking forward to Halloween. :)

Sean

Picketing can be good or bad depending on the circumstance. Usually it is used as a means of confrontation. I have a hard time with confrontation but if the cause is just I'll be there. Picketing is also used to call public attention to a percieved injustice. Do we wish to be that public? I think we need to be. No rights were ever won by sitting in a closet wishing. The only way to be truly accepted by society is to be in their face all the time untill nobody has a second thought about it. The problem is: do you want to be the ground breaker? I'm at a point in my life where I have to break some ground in this small town or move. A lot to think about. All I can say is if you are going to picket, wear comfortable shoes.

larissa (did I ramble or what?)

larissa

For certain occasions it picketing might work. Usually the media turns it into a circus. I feel that writing to politicians and getting involved in the community is more helpful to our cause. we need to educate people. Picketing usually has a negative effect. People need to be aware of us in a positive light. Hugs to all.

Phyllis

No, picketing is self defeating. The public looks at you as a trouble maker. The way to show our true value would be at community events and parades. Show how good, and kind we are as a community. Either way it forces us out in the open, and to many of us that would mean loss of jobs and family. If we must make a statement, let it be one of peace and coexistance rather than uproar. HUGS, Terrianne, Jacksonville, FL.

Terrianne

A group of us from Tracks in Tampa are going to New Orleans this weekend - (Oct 19 - 21) Looking for good drag show / club / restaurant locations in the "Big Easy". Staying at the Best Western in the quarter - under the name Debbie Allen - call or write with any suggestions on where to go. Thanks.

Debbie Allen

Like ALL other minority groups in history WE have to be as visible and vocal as possible. Political action groups / demonstrations / picketing etc are all essential to our long term acceptance to all of society. We in the USA have it a lot better than most countries - all we have to do is "get out there and be seen and heard" and our constitution gives us the freedom to do all of these things openly. In many countries - like Turkey - they lock the transgendered up and torture them. Our struggle must be world wide and ALL of us must help in every way we can - using every opportunity to gain our acceptance in society. One day anyone should be able to "wear a dress - choose our gender" openly without fear of discrimination in any form. Each of us can do our part by going out into the real world dressed as females and "acting like ladies at all times". It does not matter how realistic you look - it's the persons freedom and God given right to dress as we decide and go about our personal and business lives as we please.It's what inside a person that truly counts - not how they look on the outside. So I say to all of you still in the closet - get out and be "all the woman you want to be". Love Debbie.

Debbie Allen

My role models are Cynthia and Linda Phillips who run the Texas Tea Party. I went to these events for 3 years - last one about 4 years ago - so I have not seen them for a long time. These 2 people have helped more people than any other couple I know - spend most of their time working to save marriages / help people through their sexual identity crisis / set a standard for cross dressing and understanding from "anyone who will listen". When I was going to these Tea Parties I was struggling through my own identity crisis and they helped me more than I could ever tell them. I will always remember Cynthia telling me "always be a lady - 'pull down that skirt Debbie' - be proud of who and what you are ". I am hoping to return to the event this next Feb in Tx - and I look forward to seeing them again - and hearing those magic words " you have come a long way baby !". Second role model is a transexual here in Tampa who did incredible drag shows - cartwheels across the stage in a skin tight dress and 4" heels. She now has walked away from this past life - had her sex change - looks fantastic and now runs an upscale hair dressing salon and lives her life as a total female. She went back to school - developed a whole new life - and did all the things I wish I had the courage to do. And a host of others like Cindy Martin who runs TGF - who provide a support system for thousands of us who look forward to a new issue every Monday morning. Few people know how she finds the time and money to set this publication standard for all of us. She is a true role model for ALL of us. Debbie Allen

Debbie Allen

Anyone know how to get in touch with the organizers of Fantasia Fair in Provincetown, MA starting THIS weekend??? Work takes me to Boston this Saturday, and then I have the week off unexpectedly, so I have a room reservation at the Provincetown Inn, but no information on how to register for the "Fair"!!! Your help would be greatly appreciated, I am looking forward to my first extended venture en femme! Thanks in advance for any and all help!

Barbara Curry

Anyone know how to get in touch with the organizers of Fantasia Fair in Provincetown, MA starting THIS weekend??? Work takes me to Boston this Saturday, and then I have the week off unexpectedly, so I have a room reservation at the Provincetown Inn, but no information on how to register for the "Fair"!!! Your help would be greatly appreciated, I am looking forward to my first extended venture en femme! Thanks in advance for any and all help!

Barbara Curry

My role model is a very attractive middle age woman with whom I work. She doesn't know that I am a cross dresser. I observe he each day at work, and later try to copy her fashion ideas, her mannerisms, and her femininity in general.

Stephanie

There is no single person that I readily indentify as my Role Model, however I do witness traits in many people, nameless and otherwise, that I aspire to develop in myself. Of the commonly known people, I would need to include a lengthy list of musicians/singers. Many a song has helped me through bad times... To a degree my mother. But no _one_ sticks out in my mind right now...

Aaion

Help!! I'm a TG in LA, and I've just landed a job as a woman on Melrose Ave (Gattos, 7406 melrose Ave). My dilemmas are body/facial hair, and voice I'm experienced enough as a *woman* (hence, getting hired as a woman), but voice lessons and electrolysis are essential. I need input on voice training; my manager, another TG says her once beautiful singing voice is gone because of her raising it I sing as well, and want to take care of my voice as I learn to raise it to a more feminine level. Secondly, I need valuable info on LASER electrolysis, from patients, or experienced individuals. Email is Wylie001@cerritos.edu. I hope to get an educational website at Geocities, soon. Hope to hear from you all. Elayne.

Elayne Thomas

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