**-**› MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 11, 1995 MEETING›› NEWS ITEMS:›› Floridian     magazine      PACESETTER› acnowledged  the  OL'  HACKERS  in its› last publication.  A whole page and  a› half  was  dedicated  to  our   club's› history;  and,  beyond  that honor, we› were the first in  the  whole  series!› Thanks folks!›› President, ALEX PIGNATO, offered ATARI› 8-bit hardware  for  sale  from  STEVE› HOFFEY  (a former staffmember with the› ATARI CLASSIC. who was  very  ill  for› some  time).  A true treasure trove is› offered,   such   as:   130XE  with  3› operating systems; 800 XL with  custom› 512K;  stock  800,  Atari  SMM801; BMC› model; Dot Matrix  Printer;  two  1050› Disk  Drives  with  US Doublers; HAPPY› 810 Disk Drives  (barely  used!);  CSS› Black  Box  with  custom cas;, 220 meg› Seagate Hard Drive for $600;  complete› Library  with  double-sided  disks for› $350 ... and more!  All  were  welcome› to  browse  by  looking  through   the› available list.›› MEMBER,  ALEX  PIGNATO,  received  the› ATARI  CLASSIC   MAGAZINE   and   DISK› recently.   After the whole 14 minutes› it   took  to  skim  through  it,  his› critique   was  negative.   The  whole› club, those who had also read  through› their  copy, agreed with ALEX that the› information   chosen  seemed  to  soar› above   99   percent   of  the  target› readership, of the magazine.  Even the› disk  gave  several members trouble in› booting up.  ALAN SHARKIS motioned  to› communicate      OHAUG's       general› disapproval  and   disappointment   by› corresponding  with  the publishers of› A.C.  JACK  GEDALIUS  seconded.   JOHN› HARDIE  observed  that it seemed to be› an extension of BOB Wooley's  hardware› group  in  California.  While a lot of› frustration     was    vented    about› unfinished   business  and  unanswered› phone calls, concern was  communicated› that  since  JIM HOOD's recent decline› in   health,   BOB   WOOLEY's  valiant› attempts at holding down the fort  now› appears    to    be   suffering   from› overextension.  Anyhow, one  thing  is› apparent,  this  magazine  was wanted,› and waited for by this  bunch  of  OL'› HACKERS.    AL   SHARKIS   immediately› agreed to put the letter in terms of a› simple  suggestion to modify the scope› of the future magazines to  allow  for› both beginner and intermediate levels,› as well.  This amendment was  seconded› by  AL  MANNELLA.   (It's  getting  to› sound  like  parliament around here --›  Raaather!)  ALEX reminded  that  this› letter  should  be sent rather soon to› "strike while the iron is hot."   Very› important  to the whole future of this› magazine' continuance.›› CORRESPONDENCE:›› Member BEN POEHLAND,  of  Frazer,  PA,› writes that he is offering a "take all› -- no  partial  sales"  deal  of  $150› worth  of  chips  for  a sale price of› $75!  Great resource for 8-bit repairs› and  upgrades.  BEN wishes to see that› it stays within some local  usergroup'› future supply/stock.  ›› JIM  CUTLER  our  Lancashire,  England› member, kindly sends his "inheritance"› (no ... not money, folks, but a  batch› of  disks!)  to  house  in  the  OHAUG› Library.   ALEX's response thanked him› for the  4  disks;  namely,  ENVISION,› PAYOFF  and  DOS's  3  &  4.  JIM also› shared his acronym, H.E.A.T., by which› he means: "HELL, EVEN ALEX IS TIRED!" › That gave ALEX a good  chuckle.   But,› while ALEX didn't belabor the point, a› little   birdy   told   me  that  ALEX› sincerely laments that  his  arthritic› condition  is  a   C.U.R.S.E.,   which› means:  a "CONDITION UNDERMINING REST,› SERENITY ... EVERYTHING!"   ALEX  sent› the  program,  BEE WEE DOS, along with› his letter  and,  as  liaison  between› Canadian   and   British   operatives,› forwarded the Canadian brother's  JOHN› PICKIN's  answer   to   JIM's   recent› question  on  his  PAPERCLIP problem. › (Gee, I can just hear Walter  Cronkite› stating  in that "journelesque" way of› his, "OHAUG, the local community  club› that reaches far across the globe!")›› JOHN    PICKINS    from    G.C.A.C.E.,› Victoria,  B.C.,  Canada, sent us XL2,› and XL2XE: UPGRADED VERSION 3, the new› disk  that  ALEX chose to demo.  As an› aside,   ALEX  commented  that  JOHN's› knowledge   was   over  his  head  and› likened him to our late brother,  KRIS› HOLTEGAARD,  a  rather  brilliant  and› creative  OL'  HACKER.   ALAN  SHARKIS› then  offered to add BOB WOOLEY in the› mix, another fine mind  in  the  8-bit› world. ›› Another  8-bitter, FRANK SAGSTETTER of› Dayton, OH, referred to us by Dayton's› M.V.A.C.E.  (not   an   8-bit   Club),› happily  reaches  out to OHAUG because› there are no local clubs in his area. › (You  know, this "relief/happiness" is› like the delirium experienced  when  a› thirst driven person finally discovers› that the  mirage  is  really  a  lush,› tropical oasis!)  Well, FRANK's letter› gave   the  Club  two  rather  complex› technical problems.  ALEX responded to› his  letter by sending him a disk with› two   terminal   programs   (yes,  one› question had  to  do  with  terminals)› while  promising to bring the other to› the   floor   at  the  next  meeting. › Problem solver,  challenge  lovers  --›  these  are  just  other names for the› OL' HACKER!  ALAN  SHARKIS  said  that› FLICKER  TERM,  TERM  80  or  ICED TEA› might solve FRANK's  terminal  problem› and  afford  an  unlimited  amount  of› baud.   As  to  the  graphic  printing› problem,  it  was  suggested  that the› expertise of CHARLES COLE be  sought. › ALEX  made  sure  to  invite  FRANK to› become a member; and, with that,  ALAN› felt  that  he would correspond to the› (hopefully)   newest   OL'  HACKER  in› Dayton, OH. FRANK, our Secretary,  RON› FETZER,  awaits  your  dues. (Ed. I've› been advised  that  RON  received  his› dues! A.P.)›› Our member LARRY TISCHBEIN, newsletter› editor of LVAUG, shared  that  he  was› "working  on  his  FRONT  PAGE holiday› masterpiece."   ALEX,  in  his  return› letter,  suggested  using  PRINT  SHOP› icons.  Doesn't  ALEX  know  that  you› never  suggest  the  easy  route  to a› budding   Michelangelo,  Donazetti  or› Bill   Gates???   Well,  LARRY  always› tells  of  his  mentor,  DR.  BOB,  in› nearby  Allentown,  PA,  who  is  very› helpful. ALEX's method of education is› the good ol' tried and true, trial and› error method.  Again, when ALEX shares› about  his  "C.U.R.S.E.,"  he seems to› "shy   up."   Well,  this  is  serious› folks!!    He's  struggling  with  the› keypad  --  the  old  newsletter  will› never be the same without ALEX!   (The› question  is:   would  there even BE a› newsletter?)›› ALEX shared a walk down Memory Lane by› showing  the  Club a 2/13/87 47 member› list.  This is OHAUG's alma mater  and› it  lays  claim  to  some  heavies:  a› Sheriff   of   New   York  County,  an› official with the  United  States  Bar› Association, a physiologist (a doctor,› no less!) and a  defunct  son-in-law. › Reads  like  the Who's Who of Whoville› (remember Dr. Seuss?).›› JACK GEDALIUS shared a couple of comic› ditties  (read by ALEX) on the "beauty› of aging."   Everyone  got  a  chuckle› from these humorous paradies.  Thanks,› Jack!››› DEMOS:›› RON FETZER discovered the  chess  game› font in ATARI CLASSIC DISK VOL. 4, NO.› 2, and printed it up to share with the› club.   He  handed  the  copies to all› members in  attendance  to  show  this› program's offering.›› PAT  MULVEY started his demo of the 8-› bit Atari with a  piece  of  1/4  inch› plexiglass.   Why?  It has the ability› to withstand bullets when thicker, but› it's  still transparent.  What sounded› like a marvelous commercial became  an› exhibition  of an absolutely beautiful› engineering feat.  Using hardware such› as a standard 130XE keyboard on top of› a 130XE computer,  underneath  3  1/2"› disk  drive  and  add  a  combo 5V/12V› power supply with XF 551 Drive Board. › Then decrease the size to a "miniscule› height"   by   removing  a  number  of› components -- oh, yes, there is also a› heat  shield  that was taken off a ...› this technical stuff went on  and  on,› but  I  did pick up that the group was› totally   hushed   until   PAT  shared› something about the PR connection.   I› guess  the  only  thing  we can say is› that PAT stupefied this crew with  his› "over  the head ... but boy, do I want› it, too!" demo.  One can almost say  a› touch of artistry, PAT.  Good work!›› OHAUG  LIBRARY  #615:   (s/1): XL2.COM› and   XL2XE.COM   programs;     (s/2):› MyDOS.TXT,  SpartaDOS,   FONTWRTR.OBJ,› ABATCON,  RDNUMBER,  RAMTEST.TXT   ?? › This  disk was demo'ed by ALEX and RON› shared that Side  1  was  an  updated,› debugged  program.  Again, the "CURSE"› prevented ALEX from doing his  normal,› thorough  investigation;  so, the docs› and all the Club members joined in  in› trying  the  different possibilities. › Too soon did the  keypad  get  totally› locked  up and no one could get beyond› this  impasse.   Sounded  a  bit  like› Fundamentals of 8-bittery, #101.   One› thing  though,  these guys proved once› again, they love a challenge!›› OHAUG LIBRARY  #616:   T.W.A.U.G.  #18› NOV/DEC  '95:   (s/1):  ASTROBIOGRAMS,› TANK  game, VEHICLE REPORT, LARGE DISK› LABELS, CASSETTE LOG WRITER, PLUS ZERO› game, CONAN.PIC, BBK COMMAND PROCESSOR› by Bryan Chappell, ANALOG '87;  (s/2):› For Side 1, ALEX passed around samples› of   the   charts   created   by   the› ASTROBIOGARAMS  program,  a   European› version  of Biorhythms.  Info based on› astrology   which   gives  personality› traits, horoscope and biorhythm chart. › Don't  get confused like ALEX did with› the European method of reporting dates› of  birth.   As  to Side 2, ALEX found› this a bit difficult .. first off,  he› could  get  nothing  but  a  couple of› notes   repeating  and  repeating  and› repeating.  Sounded sort of eerie when› he  showed  the  Club.  Then, he found› that by  booting  Side  1  up  without› BASIC  and  then  Side  2,  it offered› three games.  Of course, all the  guys› perked up a bit when they were playing› the games ...  but,  then,  maybe  not› all.   We really wouldn't know if JACK› GEDALIUS was taking one of his  famous› snoozes ...›› OHAUG LIBRARY #617 & 618:  ENVISION --›  2 ANTIC disks from JIM  CUTLER  which› has  30  pages  of documentation which› ALEX  passed  around.   Poor  RON  was› chosen   to  plod  through  the  droll› Utilities   Introduction  (yawns  were› definitely heard at this point).   The› review:  good graphics program because› (as Professor MULVEY edified) it  take› pictures  and  turns  them into text. › Not only is it faster  to  boot,  this› saves  lots  of  space  on  the disk! › Amazingly, PAT demo'ed this program  5› years  ago  and  was  still  able   to› remember it's benefits.›› OHAUG  LIBRARY  #619,   620   &   621,› respectively   are:    FLICKER   TERM,› Version   5.1;    ICED-T;    TERM  80,› Version  1.6  --  ALAN  explained  the› benefits   of   the   three  disks  in› question.  Each  gives  an  80  column› display,  and at least 2 of the 3 give› BT100 emulation needed to  access  the› WORLDWIDE  WEB through either GENIE or› some   other   provider.   Text  based› server, LYNX, needed to get graphics.››› DOOR PRIZES:››      #1   HARRY TUTHILL›      #2   AL MANNELLA›      #3   PAT MULVEY›      #4   ALLEN ATKINS›      #5   HAROLD PEGLER››                  Submitted by D.E.C.›                **=**›