comp.os.os2.setup.storage (Usenet) Saturday, 06-Nov-1999 to Friday, 12-Nov-1999 +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: d.s.darrow@nvinet.com 04-Nov-99 17:05:19 To: All 06-Nov-99 03:33:25 Subj: Re: File system recommendations? From: "Doug Darrow" On Tue, 02 Nov 1999 02:53:37 +0100, Martin Nisshagen wrote: >How many web sites or application servers runs Novell? Probably not too many. But I think you might be surprised how many of those web servers are sitting as nodes on an in-house Novell LAN. And, yes, many (most) OLDER Novell servers run IPX, but on new Novell installations TCP/IP is the recommended protocol. And, if you haven't looked at Novell lately, you might want to take a second look now. Novell has, hands down, the best NOS architecture out there. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: pcoen@drew.edu 06-Nov-99 01:09:04 To: All 06-Nov-99 03:33:25 Subj: Re: File system recommendations? From: Paul Coen Doug Darrow wrote: > > On Tue, 02 Nov 1999 02:53:37 +0100, Martin Nisshagen wrote: > > >How many web sites or application servers runs Novell? > > Probably not too many. But I think you might be surprised how many of > those web servers are sitting as nodes on an in-house Novell LAN. And, Of course, Netware 5.1 (announced, coming out soon, probably within a month) comes with IBM's WebSphere included in the package. When you add that to things like the free (downloadable) Certificate Server and other nice pieces Novell has been adding, it's an attractive set of technologies. 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I've been asking Cristie if they will be providing OS/2 drivers for the Onstream 30/50 GB tape drives, and they hope to have something available in a month or two. These drives seem too good to be true, pricewise, - no idea on reliability though... >-- >Remove REMOVE_ME to reply. >------------------------------------------------------------------- >Charles Christacopoulos, Secretary's Office, University of Dundee, >Dundee DD1 4HN, (Scotland) United Kingdom. >Tel: +44+(0)1382-344891. Fax: +44+(0)1382-201604. >http://somis.ais.dundee.ac.uk/ (runs on OS/2) >Scottish Search Maestro http://somis2.ais.dundee.ac.uk/ (runs on OS/2 >too) -- John --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Legend Internet Ltd (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: FStolpmann@knuut.de 06-Nov-99 10:27:17 To: All 06-Nov-99 10:27:24 Subj: DoVolIO Error From: Frank Stolpmann Hi, in the last few days my system hung several times due to an internal processing error: WtHF: DoVolIO Error I don't know why it is caused. Meanwhile I changed the ibm1s506.add to danis506.add but that didn't change. After the error had occured chkdsk had a lot to do and I got severe problems to restart my system. Any hints? I use 1 IDE HD (1,2 GB) and 2 SCSI HD (2x 4,3 GB); on the IDE HD resides the OS/2 Bootmanager, Warp is in a logical partition on HD2. My system: MSI 5169 motherboard, 128 MB SDRAM, Warp 4 FP10. Bye. Frank Stolpmann FStolpmann@knuut.de http://home.knuut.de/FStolpmann -------------------------------------------------------------------- PGP key available. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Customer of UUNET Deutschland GmbH, Dortmund, Ger (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: Brian@webone.com.au 06-Nov-99 20:19:01 To: All 06-Nov-99 10:27:24 Subj: Re: Iomega bootable zip disk From: Brian@webone.com.au In , News@The-Net-4U.com (M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn) writes: > >> anyone know if creating a bootable 100 meg Zip disk is doable? Hang about, maybe two weeks, I am going to see if I can get it working. I have just installed Daniela's drivers. Great so far!! Here is a cut from the doco, ------------------------------------------------------------------------- If you have a removable drive which you want to boot from, this reportedly fails. To enable booting from this unit it has to be treated as a fixed one. This can be done with the option /!RMV applied to the proper unit. It is reported also that some Syquest drives have buggy firmware which doesn't report properly the support of the removable feature set. To announce these drives to OS/2 a removable drives add the /RMV option to the appropriate unit. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Not sure how this will work yet will have to play for a bit, Brian --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Web One Internet http://webone.com.au (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nospam@nospam.com 06-Nov-99 13:30:04 To: All 06-Nov-99 14:36:00 Subj: Re: Large capacity removable media From: nospam@nospam.com (Bruce LaZerte) On Sat, 6 Nov 1999 11:34:27, jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong) wrote: > So far, it is almost looking like another SPARQ I'm afraid. Many > of the posts I have seen so far regarding it have been people on their > 3rd-4th Orb drives. This is not good. > The main constent amongst all them is that you have > got to treat those Ord cartridges like babies. Dropping them would risk > in loss of data. > Well, that's different. Dropping anything on a hard surface could be a problem... although my DAT cartridges are so light I doubt that they would be harmed. Certainly my Syjet cartridges should not be dropped as well. The trade-off for me is speed. I'd also thought about buying a couple of regular hard drives and this special hardware that allows you to remove and swap them (but not a hot swap). Too expensive for regular, long-term archiving (I use DAT for that), but ok for frequent, fast backups that can be taken off-site for storage. But, again, if you dropped one of these onto a hard surface ... Are the ORB drives any *worse* than regular hard drives? I too use Info-Zip for backup and restore, currently onto my Syquest Syjet (1.5mb). And for the last couple of years, everything's been fine. ---------------------- Bruce LaZerte Muskoka,Ontario,Canada freshwat at muskoka dot com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com 06-Nov-99 08:51:20 To: All 06-Nov-99 14:36:00 Subj: Re: Does HPFS need LBA? From: "Mike Ruskai" On Fri, 05 Nov 1999 15:29:21 GMT, Paul Goddard wrote: >I upgraded my computer a couple months ago, the old hard drive is now the >secondary. Its 2.6-GB contain an extended partition which has a 1,3 GB-HPFS >logical drive at its beginning. Recently I created a 900 MB logical drive at >the end of this partition and tried to FAT format this but neither fdisk nor >partition magic version 2 would let me do this as it was outside the >1024-cylinder limit. Partion magic does offer me the HPFS alternative but >this partition is to be accessed by Win98. >Looking at my BIOS settings it appears that LBA is not used on this drive. >the BIOS does not want me to change the settings to LBA if I do I still get >the error message when I try to format and, on boot, the capacity of the >drive is displayed as about 500 MB but data access in unaffected. This did >happen when I used the drive on my old computer but then I did have a 200-MB >FAT logical drive at the end of the physical drive and I was able to use >the 2.6-GB capacity of the drive. >I think I have enough space on my primary drive to copy the 1.3-GB, and then >remove all the partitions on my secondary drive, try getting LBA to work, >repartitioning and reformatting. Or, if Win98 does not need LBA, I could try >using its version of fdisk to create a 900-MB logical drive at the end of >the physical drive. I just wonder if this is safe since Win98 does not >recognise HPFS drives. >Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated. All versions of Windows *must* boot from drive C:. There's no way around it. As to your partitioning problem, translation changes the drive geometry, so you would need to repartition the entire drive after activating translation. That's not going to help you much, of course, since as I said, you must have drive C: available for Win98 to boot from. It does have the ability to install the bulk of itself to another drive, but it will not function without taking control of drive C:. - Mike Remove 'spambegone' to send e-mail. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: TLF (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: 1156-187@onlinehome.de 06-Nov-99 14:55:13 To: All 06-Nov-99 14:36:00 Subj: Irwin Accutrak From: "Steffen Ott" <1156-187@onlinehome.de> Hi I search a WWW Adress of the Irwin Archive Company or a Description for the Accutrak External Controller Card. Thanks --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: 1&1 Telekommunikation GmbH (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: abeagley@datatone.com 06-Nov-99 11:41:21 To: All 06-Nov-99 14:36:00 Subj: Re: Irwin Accutrak From: Alan Beagley "Irwin Archive" ?? Did Irwin get taken over by Archive? Archive subsequently got bought by Conner, which in turn got bought by Seagate. Soooo, Check the Seagate Web site. You may find what you are looking for there. Alan Steffen Ott wrote: > Hi > I search a WWW Adress of the Irwin Archive Company or a Description > for the Accutrak External Controller Card. > > Thanks --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: swsnyder@home.com 06-Nov-99 17:46:26 To: All 06-Nov-99 16:43:23 Subj: Re: Need new tape backup From: "Steve Snyder" On Sat, 06 Nov 1999 17:37:50 GMT, Stephen Eickhoff (remove the - to reply) wrote: >"Camilla Cracchiolo (Camilla Cracchiolo, R.N.)" wrote: [snip] >> I'm considering a Seagate SCSI 8 Gig backup. Anyone here have >> experience with this drive? Also, I'm currently using Backmaster. >> Will it support this tape drive or do I have to get BackAgain/2? >> >> Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the >> newsgroup. > >I have the ST8000N and use it with Novaback. It works great, I usually get >about 38MB/min >with it. You MUST get a cleaner kit, though, and use it every few backups. I >let my drive get dirty and had to use three swabs on it just to do a full >restore. I too have a ST8000N which I use with Seagate's Backup Exec. As noted above, this drive is fast. I'm very happy with it. ***** Steve Snyder ***** --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: @Home Network (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: grahl@spam.me.not.attglobal.net 06-Nov-99 19:29:03 To: All 06-Nov-99 16:43:23 Subj: Re: DoVolIO Error From: "Frank-Rainer Grahl" On Sat, 6 Nov 1999 10:27:35 GMT, Frank Stolpmann wrote: >>Hi, >> >>in the last few days my system hung several times due to an internal >>processing error: >> >>WtHF: DoVolIO Error It looks like one of your drives is about to fail. Try to identify the failing drive and move all data off it fast. I suspect it's the drive where chkdsk finds the most errors. Regards Frank-Rainer Grahl (100270.1415@REMOVE.ME.compuserve.com grahl@REMOVE.ME.attglobal.net) --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: gkrupp@ibm.net 06-Nov-99 17:17:29 To: All 06-Nov-99 16:43:23 Subj: Re: Two SSI cards and OS/2 From: gkrupp@ibm.net (Georg Krupp) On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 13:06:56, lewiscm@wfu.edu (Charles M Lewis) wrote: > > I have two SCSI adapor cards in my omputer (an Adaptec Aha-2940U and an > Adaptec 2910C). Before I install OS/2 Warp 4.0, will it work with two > cards.....? > > Hy, I use two SyLogic 8751UW- and one Adaptec 2940 -Card in one system. There are problems to expect only in case the motherboard gets in trouble with the interrupts. OS/2 doesn't. George --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: operagost@e-mail.com 06-Nov-99 17:37:25 To: All 06-Nov-99 16:43:23 Subj: Re: Need new tape backup From: "Stephen Eickhoff (remove the - to reply)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------A4DCB7A443A83DE1C6998BBF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Camilla Cracchiolo (Camilla Cracchiolo, R.N.)" wrote: > I have to get a new tape drive. I've got a HP Traven T-3000. > > I'd like to get away from HP products altogether. They have great > tech support, but I suspect that's because their products die so > often. (Long history of failures here). > > I'm considering a Seagate SCSI 8 Gig backup. Anyone here have > experience with this drive? Also, I'm currently using Backmaster. > Will it support this tape drive or do I have to get BackAgain/2? > > Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the > newsgroup. I have the ST8000N and use it with Novaback. It works great, I usually get about 38MB/min with it. You MUST get a cleaner kit, though, and use it every few backups. I let my drive get dirty and had to use three swabs on it just to do a full restore. Backmaster 2 should support the drive, but I dumped them a while ago because the program was so slow. Novaback is nice because they include Windows and OS/2 versions in the same box. -- ---------------------------------- Stephen Eickhoff Havertown, PA ---------------------------------- --------------A4DCB7A443A83DE1C6998BBF Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="operagost.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Stephen Eickhoff (remove the - to reply) Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="operagost.vcf" begin:vcard n:Eickhoff;Stephen tel;work:610-341-8571 x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:Johnson Matthey, CSD NA;Information Technology adr:;;456 Devon Park Drive;wayne;PA;19087; version:2.1 email;internet:operagost@email.com title:PC Support Analyst end:vcard --------------A4DCB7A443A83DE1C6998BBF-- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: sma.spam-not@rtd.com 06-Nov-99 21:53:15 To: All 06-Nov-99 20:02:24 Subj: Re: Need new tape backup From: James Moe Steve Snyder wrote: > > > I too have a ST8000N which I use with Seagate's Backup Exec. > You do? I thought Seagate dropped os/2 support. The STT8000N came out long after they stopped updating their os/2 program. -- sma at rtd dot com Remove ".spam-not" for email --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Sohnen-Moe Associates, Inc (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jdparker@erols.com 06-Nov-99 17:06:12 To: All 06-Nov-99 20:02:25 Subj: Lost extended attributes (the saga continues - new data) From: Jim Parker Earlier I posted some articles about losing extended attributes on FAT partitions whenever I ran Win98 on my multi-OS computer. I have Win98 in one primary partition formated FAT32 and OS/2 in a logical partition formated FAT. I have data and applications on other FAT partitions and and some other apps and data on an HPFS partition. Not surprisingly I was not having lost extended attribute problems on the HPFS partitions. Well, I've found the "culprit". It's my IBM Anti-Virus program. It is installed in Win98 and configured to run once a week scanning executables on all partitions in view that are new or changed. Every time it runs, the extended attribute pointers in the directory entries of at least many (perhaps all) of the files that it has checked are set to 0 making the extended attributes that were being pointed to lost orphans. I've verified this by looking at the directory entries with Graham Utilities diskedit and running Win98 with and without running Anti-Virus. But this didn't happen with the same configuration in Win95. So some API that Anti-Virus is using has different behavior in Win98 and that different behavior is to set the EA pointers to 0. I tried some experiments using Notepad and Edit under Win98 and found that frequently (but not always), if I look at a file with extended attributes using these programs, the EA pointer in its directory entry will get set to 0 even if I have made no modifications to the file. If I do make modifications and save the file, the EA pointer will always get set to 0 but this is no surprise. I ran this experiment on my machine and another machine with Win98 using a floppy disk with files created under OS/2 on it. My next experiment is to try it on a Win95 machine. My hypothesis is that looking at files will not cause loss of extended attributes in Win95. I won't be able to do that for a few days. So I can solve my problem in the short term by reconfiguring IBM Anti-Virus in Win98 to only scan the Win98 FAT32 partition and leave it up to IBM Anti-Virus under OS/2 to deal with the rest and then be very careful not to even look at files with extended attributes un Win98. The long term solution I'm afraid is to reconfigure my system so that files with extended attributes are protected from Win98, probably by converting most partitions to HPFS leaving perhaps one for things I might want to share between Win98 and OS/2. Jim --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: pcgodda@freeuk.com 06-Nov-99 22:34:28 To: All 06-Nov-99 20:02:25 Subj: Re: Does HPFS need LBA? From: "Paul Goddard" Mike Ruskai wrote in message news:gunaalzrvfgrelnubbpbz.fks3u42.pminews@netnews.worldnet.att.net... > ......... As to your partitioning problem, translation changes the drive geometry, > so you would need to repartition the entire drive after activating > translation. That's not going to help you much, of course, since as I > said, you must have drive C: available for Win98 to boot from. It does > have the ability to install the bulk of itself to another drive, but it > will not function without taking control of drive C:. > Thanks for that. The primary drive is not a problem; it contains a primary partition C: for Win98, a shared logical drive D: and OS/2 installed in E:. The other physical drive is the problem. I had a logical drive, F: which was HPFS formatted and contained data and unused programs. This was about 1.3 GB in size and there was no problem in accessing data. I thought LBA translation was being used until I tried to make a 900-MB FAT partition. I received the message that this was outside the 1024-cylinder limit on further investigation I realised that LBA was not being used, confirmed as I have now found that Win98 sees the drive as 500 MB or so. Partition Magic version 2 is quite happy to HPFS format the new partition but does not offer the FAT option. I can only conclude that HPFS does not require LBA. At present the data on the secondary drive has been backed up to a new logical drive on the first physical drive.My BIOS seems to be resisting attempts. to apply LBA translation to the secondary drive. Phew! Thanks for your help anyway. Paul --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dun... 06-Nov-99 23:02:14 To: dbongo@ibm.net 06-Nov-99 20:02:25 Subj: Re: NTFS drivers for OS/2 and HPFS for WinNT Message sender: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk To: dbongo@ibm.net From: Charles Christacopoulos dbongo@ibm.net wrote: Hi Dave, Sorry I could not reply to you any earlier as I had to be away from the office for a few days :-) Basically you got the message right. Tt is the multiple File sytems that cause the problems. Actually NT recognises OS/2 and leaves it alone (may screw up with boot manager though). Put it that way, NT was aimed for the corporate market it had to be "true and proper" or else corporates would not touch it. > That's the current plan. I didn't realize it would/could be dangerous > to get the multiple FS thing going on. > > >The other method is to put NT in a FAT partition, OS/2 in a HPFS > >partition and get the NT 3.51 PINBALL.SYS file along with HPFS_NT.EXE. > >This allows NT to read and write to the HPFS partitions. My experience > >is to use OS/2's fdisk and format to make all partitions and > >formatting. Also, NT won't like any HPFS partition greater than 8 gb. > > > > Thanks for the advice. I may just hide them from each other on primary > partitions, rather than screw around with all this potentially dangerous > stuff. You have had no problems with NT trashing your HPFS partitions? > I ask because I always keep my applications on a separate partition from > my OS. (Well, OS/2 stuff, anyways. Windows seems to like 1 big C: partition, > and won't stand for multiple partitions. Too many things force themselves > onto C:) > > Thanks for the advice. > > Dave You can hide a partition from NT but you need to be careful it does not fall over before you hide it. OK. If your partition is FAT (say drive D:) you can leave it as is bot NT and OS/2 will see it as D. If though you want a partition with HPFS (Drive D or Drive E if you have another disk and so on) then I suggest you do not format it or put fat. Boot to nt and go to (something like Disk Manager where you can find the info to hide it from NT). When you have hidden it from NT then go back to OS/2 and either format it or put turn it to HPFS. NT can fall over (had done it to me) whilst it is not recognising the file system. Hope it helps. Charles -- Remove REMOVE_ME to reply. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Charles Christacopoulos, Secretary's Office, University of Dundee, Dundee DD1 4HN, (Scotland) United Kingdom. Tel: +44+(0)1382-344891. Fax: +44+(0)1382-201604. http://somis.ais.dundee.ac.uk/ (runs on OS/2) Scottish Search Maestro http://somis2.ais.dundee.ac.uk/ (runs on OS/2 too) --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: University of Dundee (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: swsnyder@home.com 07-Nov-99 02:07:16 To: All 07-Nov-99 03:28:17 Subj: Re: Need new tape backup From: "Steve Snyder" On Sat, 06 Nov 1999 21:53:30 GMT, James Moe wrote: >Steve Snyder wrote: >> >> >> I too have a ST8000N which I use with Seagate's Backup Exec. >> > You do? I thought Seagate dropped os/2 support. The STT8000N came >out long after they stopped updating their os/2 program. Maybe the STT8000N is compatible with some drive that is officially supported. In any case, Seagate Backup Exec v3.0 (file dates are 10/31/96) *does* work with that tape drive. ***** Steve Snyder ***** --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: @Home Network (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com 06-Nov-99 18:11:14 To: All 07-Nov-99 03:28:17 Subj: Re: DoVolIO Error From: "Graham C. Norris" We had major problems with the L2 cache on one of these motherboards and Win95 and 98. I've no idea if it is a common problem, but you might try turning off the L2 cache (in the BIOS setup) for a while, this was the only thing which allowed our 5169 to work reliably at all. Graham. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: ned_snow@my-deja.com 07-Nov-99 01:06:10 To: All 07-Nov-99 03:28:17 Subj: Re: Laptop Installation problems From: ned_snow@my-deja.com In article <3823835d$5$lllp186.vyyrtnygbfcnz$mr2ice@news.flashcom.com>, yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashcom.net wrote: > In <38237031.C9A2F2D6@cs.uofs.edu>, on 11/05/99 > at 07:02 PM, Dick Sidbury said: > > Welcome to the wonderfull world of IBM LS-120 support. > > You CAN'T BOOT FROM IT as drive A. > > If you don't have a floppy drive to use as drive A, then consider yourself > screwed. > This is not universally true. My system has an LS-120 as drive A with no real floppies installed, and I was able to install Warp4 and can quite happily boot from an LS-120 disk created by BOOTOS2. I did have problems with the install until I read a post that said that the "BASEDEV=IBMATAPI.FLT" statement had to be the last device statement in config.sys. When I made that change, the install proceeded without problems. I have no idea why this should make a difference, but it did in my case. All that's left on my wishlist for the LS-120 is for the restriction on creating PM or WPS setups with BOOTOS2 on drive A be relaxed ( Ken? ). Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jdparker@erols.com 06-Nov-99 21:05:11 To: All 07-Nov-99 03:28:17 Subj: Re: Lost extended attributes (more data) From: Jim Parker Jim Parker wrote: > > > Well, I've found the "culprit". It's my IBM Anti-Virus program. It is > installed in Win98 and configured to run once a week scanning > executables on all partitions in view that are new or changed. Every > time it runs, the extended attribute pointers in the directory entries > of at least many (perhaps all) of the files that it has checked are set > to 0 making the extended attributes that were being pointed to lost > orphans. I've verified this by looking at the directory entries with > Graham Utilities diskedit and running Win98 with and without running > Anti-Virus. > > But this didn't happen with the same configuration in Win95. So some API > that Anti-Virus is using has different behavior in Win98 and that > different behavior is to set the EA pointers to 0. > > I tried some experiments using Notepad and Edit under Win98 and found > that frequently (but not always), if I look at a file with extended > attributes using these programs, the EA pointer in its directory entry > will get set to 0 even if I have made no modifications to the file. If I > do make modifications and save the file, the EA pointer will always get > set to 0 but this is no surprise. I ran this experiment on my machine > and another machine with Win98 using a floppy disk with files created > under OS/2 on it. My next experiment is to try it on a Win95 machine. My > hypothesis is that looking at files will not cause loss of extended > attributes in Win95. I won't be able to do that for a few days. > > I ran the experiments on Win95 (I found a Win95 machine earlier than I thought I'd be able to) and I've discovered what causes Win9x to zero out the EA pointers. With Notepad, Win95 behaves the same as it did on Win98. Didn't try Edit. My hypothesis was wrong. What's happening with the EA pointers is that Win9x is maintaining a "last accessed date" in bytes 12h and 13h of the directory entry. When it updates the last accessed date it also clears out bytes 14h and 15h which is where the EA pointers are. If there is a last accessed date already in the directory entry and it is the current date, Win9x will not update the directory entry so the EA pointer will not be destroyed. (You can create this scenario by creating/editing/looking at the file under Win9x thus getting a last accessed date, then editing it under OS/2 and getting EAs and then going back to Win9x to look at it - all in the same day.) This leaves unexplained why running IBM AV under Win95 didn't cause loss of EAs. Perhaps whatever APIs IBM AV uses to access files do not result in updating the last accessed date under Win95 while those same APIs do result in updating the last accessed date in Win98. The reason I'm posting this information is in the hope that it might be useful to someone. I just hope I haven't made the remarkable discovery of fire :-) Still Jim (using different machine) --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com 06-Nov-99 18:08:29 To: All 07-Nov-99 03:28:17 Subj: Re: Lost extended attributes (the saga continues - new data) From: "Graham C. Norris" I'm glad you've finally found the culprit! I also use IBM AV, but not on any Win98 system. Thanks also for posting your findings. It's certainly not something I would have suspected. A long term solution will be forced on you on 31st December this year. This is when updates for IBM AV will cease to be available. I've a sneaking suspicion that ANY anti-virus program may suffer the same side-effects, so preventing Win98 running ANY anti-virus check against FAT shared with OS/2 is probably an excellent idea. Graham. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: spamretsiemynnaht@spammoc.beooha... 06-Nov-99 21:58:11 To: All 07-Nov-99 03:28:17 Subj: Re: Does HPFS need LBA? Message sender: spamretsiemynnaht@spammoc.beoohay.net From: "Mike Ruskai" On Sat, 06 Nov 1999 22:34:56 GMT, Paul Goddard wrote: >Mike Ruskai wrote in message >news:gunaalzrvfgrelnubbpbz.fks3u42.pminews@netnews.worldnet.att.net... >> ......... As to your partitioning problem, translation changes the drive >geometry, >> so you would need to repartition the entire drive after activating >> translation. That's not going to help you much, of course, since as I >> said, you must have drive C: available for Win98 to boot from. It does >> have the ability to install the bulk of itself to another drive, but it >> will not function without taking control of drive C:. >> > >Thanks for that. The primary drive is not a problem; it contains a primary >partition C: for Win98, a shared logical drive D: and OS/2 installed in E:. >The other physical drive is the problem. I had a logical drive, F: which was >HPFS formatted and contained data and unused programs. This was about 1.3 GB >in size and there was no problem in accessing data. I thought LBA >translation was being used until I tried to make a 900-MB FAT partition. I >received the message that this was outside the 1024-cylinder limit on >further investigation I realised that LBA was not being used, confirmed as I >have now found that Win98 sees the drive as 500 MB or so. Partition Magic >version 2 is quite happy to HPFS format the new partition but does not offer >the FAT option. I can only conclude that HPFS does not require LBA. No, it does not. To make a FAT partition beyond the 1024th cylinder would require wiping out all partitions, setting up translation, then recreating the partitions you need. >At present the data on the secondary drive has been backed up to a new >logical drive on the first physical drive.My BIOS seems to be resisting >attempts. to apply LBA translation to the secondary drive. Phew! > >Thanks for your help anyway. Once you clear the drive completely (remove all partition entries), you should be able to set translation on. -- - Mike Remove 'spambegone' and reverse to send e-mail. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: TLF (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: wwiv@pppproject.org 06-Nov-99 22:42:21 To: All 07-Nov-99 03:28:17 Subj: Re: Iomega bootable zip disk From: "Dilbert Firestorm" RE: Re: Iomega bootable zip disk BY: Brian@ >Hang about, maybe two weeks, I am going to see if I can get it working. >I have just installed Daniela's drivers. Great so far!! >Here is a cut from the doco, > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > If you have a removable drive which you want to boot from, this reportedly > fails. To enable booting from this unit it has to be treated as a fixed > one. This can be done with the option /!RMV applied to the proper unit. > It is reported also that some Syquest drives have buggy firmware which > doesn't report properly the support of the removable feature set. To > announce these drives to OS/2 a removable drives add the /RMV option to > the appropriate unit. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Not sure how this will work yet will have to play for a bit, Where does the /rmv switch come from? Origin: Nuclear Wasteland * 504-394-0509 --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Nuclear Wasteland * 504-394-0509 (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: Brian@webone.com.au 07-Nov-99 23:44:08 To: All 07-Nov-99 10:20:14 Subj: Re: Iomega bootable zip disk From: Brian@webone.com.au In <38250343-nukewaste@wwivbbs.org>, "Dilbert Firestorm" writes: >RE: Re: Iomega bootable zip disk >BY: Brian@ > >>Hang about, maybe two weeks, I am going to see if I can get it working. >>I have just installed Daniela's drivers. Great so far!! >>Here is a cut from the doco, >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> If you have a removable drive which you want to boot from, this reportedly >> fails. To enable booting from this unit it has to be treated as a fixed >> one. This can be done with the option /!RMV applied to the proper unit. >> It is reported also that some Syquest drives have buggy firmware which >> doesn't report properly the support of the removable feature set. To >> announce these drives to OS/2 a removable drives add the /RMV option to >> the appropriate unit. >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>Not sure how this will work yet will have to play for a bit, > > >Where does the /rmv switch come from? > Must be something Daniela puts in. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Web One Internet http://webone.com.au (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rcambra@tpg.com.au 05-Nov-99 03:04:26 To: All 07-Nov-99 21:28:08 Subj: Warp 4.0 install tactics From: rcambra@tpg.com.au (User) Hi all. I need help with Warp 4.0 and its installer. I D/L'ed the latest device driver from IBM's Device Driver site to update the install floppies so that they recognize hard drives bigger than 8 Gb. Now my 6.4 Gb hard drive looks like this:- PARTITION 1: FAT16 DOS622 830Mb PARTITION 2: FAT32 WIN 98 2.0GB 6X CD-ROM Primary Master 6.4Gb HDD Secondary Master LS-120 FDD Primary Slave (as yet not connected) The rest of the 3.0Gb-something freespace is idle. My question is this; does Warp have to installed first (i.e in the first 1Gb of the drive) because of the 1024 cylinder limit? Or can it be anywhere in the freespace of the drive? I was told by a few others that Warp needs to be in the first gig of hard drive space. Also, can the partition where Warp is installed be bigger than 1Gb or what? That's my other query. I'm asking all of this because I've been tearing my hair out trying to get Warp installed. A few others have done it successfully, so what's the deal with me? If anyone can assist me, offer some sane advice or a copy of their Warp 4.0 install floppies , I would be extremely grateful. Thanks all for reading. CYA!!! --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Customer of Telstra Big Pond Direct (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: hharadon@satx.rr.com 08-Nov-99 22:10:00 To: All 08-Nov-99 20:06:28 Subj: Re: NTFS drivers for OS/2 and HPFS for WinNT From: hharadon@satx.rr.com Hello, I have been dual-booting for over 4 years between NT and OS/2 using OS/2's Boot Mgr. My NT is ver. 4 with Serv. Pack 3 applied, OS/2 is ver. 4 with FP12 applied, Linux is Caldera's OpenLinux. All of these reside within a 6.4GB drive with 11 partitions on it including BMgr. What I have learned: 1. NT can only read NTFS and FAT partitions so cannot read either HPFS nor ext-2 2. OS/2 cannot read NTFS, so I make life easier by putting NT on a FAT16 part. 3. NT will not account for any partition it cannot read, so it thinks it is on G: when it is really on H: (and depends on C: to be able to boot) 4. I have used a few 510MB (to avoid huge cluster sizes) FAT partitions to improve interoperability between the two or three OSes. Remember that OS/2 will not be able to handle long filenames on these parts. so anything that needs to be shared with OS/2 will need 8.3 naming. 5. I can think of no reason to keep any OS from "seeing" the other, but ..... 6. I never let NT's fdisk ("disk administrator") do anything. In fact, you are better off to install NT first as its install seems to mangle other partitions. 7. You must have a C: partition that is either fat or NTFS in order for NT to store its little hidden files or else I don't think it will boot. Older style OSes like WinXX seem to de- pend on a primary partition to store this kind of stuff and are not capable of independent install on an extended part. like OS/2 and Linux. 8. Partition everything with OS/2 fdisk, then do any formatting and installs. 9. Get DANIS506.ADD if you are IDE. It or the newest idedasd.exe from IBM will be needed if you have one of the >8.4GB drives. 10. A maintenance partition is handy. Take a look for bootos2 (I think ?) HTH, -- Howard Haradon, San Antonio, TX 78249 On Thu, 4 Nov 1999 15:08:32, dbongo@ibm.net wrote: > In <3823A058.6F0BFFB2@ibm.net>, Douglas Houck writes: > >To answer your first set of questions, the easiest, most reliable way is > >to have a FAT partition that you send zipped files back and forth to. > >This allows for long file names from both NT and OS/2. > > > > That's the current plan. I didn't realize it would/could be dangerous > to get the multiple FS thing going on. > > >The other method is to put NT in a FAT partition, OS/2 in a HPFS > >partition and get the NT 3.51 PINBALL.SYS file along with HPFS_NT.EXE. > >This allows NT to read and write to the HPFS partitions. My experience > >is to use OS/2's fdisk and format to make all partitions and > >formatting. Also, NT won't like any HPFS partition greater than 8 gb. > > > > I don't have NT 3.51, and don't know where to find a copy of PINBALL.SYS. > But since I'm leaning towards just using a shared FAT partition, I shouldn't > need it. > > >I have about 10 machines running NT in the primary and OS2 in the > >logical partition and have found it to work successfully. I do try and > >keep 32 bit NT programs on a FAT or NTFS partition. > > > >If you have any more questions let me know. > > > > Thanks for the advice. I may just hide them from each other on primary > partitions, rather than screw around with all this potentially dangerous > stuff. You have had no problems with NT trashing your HPFS partitions? > I ask because I always keep my applications on a separate partition from > my OS. (Well, OS/2 stuff, anyways. Windows seems to like 1 big C: partition, > and won't stand for multiple partitions. Too many things force themselves > onto C:) > > Thanks for the advice. > > Dave --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca 09-Nov-99 00:35:16 To: All 08-Nov-99 21:19:01 Subj: CDRW From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong) For anyone looking into buying a CDRW at a not too expensive price, really ought to check out the Ricoh 7040 model. It is a 4x write, 4x re-write, 20x read CDRW. Thing is, and this is the best part, from what I have been reading (someone in a Linux newsgroup posted this) that Ricoh has a firmware update for the 7040 line that actually makes it into a 6x write, 4x re-write, and I think 24x read. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: St. John's InfoNET (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: ten@rumms.uni-mannheim.de 09-Nov-99 00:24:20 To: All 08-Nov-99 21:19:01 Subj: Setting the hard disks' spin-down timers ? From: Andreas Grosche Can anybody recommend a program (preferably free, with a URL for download) to set and deactivate the spin-down timers of (EIDE) hard disk drives under OS/2 Warp 3 and 4 that can change these settings on the running system (from command line or PM) and do not require the machine to be rebooted ? Thanks in advance for your help (please do also reply by eMail). Greetinx/2 Andreas Grosche --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Antarctica (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashco... 08-Nov-99 22:53:08 To: All 09-Nov-99 03:31:28 Subj: Re: Laptop Installation problems Message sender: yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashcom.net From: yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashcom.net In <802jaa$9o3$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, on 11/07/99 at 01:06 AM, ned_snow@my-deja.com said: You're in the lucky minority then. Myself and a lot of others posting here never got it to work. I, like you, wanted it to put a PM system on it for backup and check disks. Actually I'd settle for a bootable command line version since my backup works from there. Roland >In article ><3823835d$5$lllp186.vyyrtnygbfcnz$mr2ice@news.flashcom.com>, > yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashcom.net wrote: >> In <38237031.C9A2F2D6@cs.uofs.edu>, on 11/05/99 >> at 07:02 PM, Dick Sidbury said: >> >> Welcome to the wonderfull world of IBM LS-120 support. >> >> You CAN'T BOOT FROM IT as drive A. >> >> If you don't have a floppy drive to use as drive A, then >consider yourself >> screwed. >> >This is not universally true. My system has an LS-120 as drive A with no >real floppies installed, and I was able to install Warp4 and can quite >happily boot from an LS-120 disk created by BOOTOS2. I did have problems >with the install until I read a post that said that the >"BASEDEV=IBMATAPI.FLT" statement had to be the last device statement in >config.sys. When I made that change, the install proceeded without >problems. I have no idea why this should make a difference, but it did in >my case. >All that's left on my wishlist for the LS-120 is for the >restriction on creating PM or WPS setups with BOOTOS2 on drive A be >relaxed ( Ken? ). >Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ >Before you buy. -- ----------------------------------------------------------- yyyc186.illegaltospam@flashcom.net To Respond delete ".illegaltospam" MR/2 Internet Cruiser 1.52 For a Microsoft free univers ----------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jbarring@arn.net 09-Nov-99 00:11:02 To: All 09-Nov-99 03:31:29 Subj: Re: Large capacity removable media From: jbarring@arn.net (Jerry) On Sat, 6 Nov 1999 11:34:27, jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong) wrote: > Bruce LaZerte (nospam@nospam.com) wrote: > > : Have been thinking about Castlewood's relatively new ORB (>2GB and works > : under OS/2 when the disks are re-formatted) but am somewhat concerned about > : its reliability, acceptance and the company's lifetime... > > So far, it is almost looking like another SPARQ I'm afraid. Many > of the posts I have seen so far regarding it have been people on their > 3rd-4th Orb drives. The main constent amongst all them is that you have > got to treat those Ord cartridges like babies. Dropping them would risk > in loss of data. I have found that Syquest is still alive, still doing warranty work and selling drives and media. The media price has about doubled, but the Sparq 1.0 Gb drive works very well, indeed. Just my $.02 Jerry --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jmandres@carbon.icb.csic.es 09-Nov-99 09:48:01 To: All 09-Nov-99 05:19:24 Subj: Re: NTFS drivers for OS/2 and HPFS for WinNT From: jmandres That is not completely accurate: 1.- NT can read HPFS partitions if you get pinball.sys (was in NT version 3.5). NTFS is better than FAT, specially for setting access permission. 2.- There are new drivers for reading NT and VFAT partitions. Look at http://www.npw.net/~dsteiner/os2/ntfs-top.html. I have just tried VFAT driver and it seems to work quite well. I have the same experiences with the rest of your post. Beware of NT's fdisk and assign C: to WinXX. hharadon@satx.rr.com escribi˘: > Hello, I have been dual-booting for over 4 years > between NT and OS/2 using OS/2's Boot Mgr. > My NT is ver. 4 with Serv. Pack 3 applied, OS/2 > is ver. 4 with FP12 applied, Linux is Caldera's > OpenLinux. All of these reside within a 6.4GB > drive with 11 partitions on it including BMgr. > What I have learned: > > 1. NT can only read NTFS and FAT partitions > so cannot read either HPFS nor ext-2 > 2. OS/2 cannot read NTFS, so I make life > easier by putting NT on a FAT16 part. > 3. NT will not account for any partition it > cannot read, so it thinks it is on G: when > it is really on H: (and depends on C: to > be able to boot) > 4. I have used a few 510MB (to avoid huge > cluster sizes) FAT partitions to improve > interoperability between the two or three > OSes. Remember that OS/2 will not be > able to handle long filenames on these > parts. so anything that needs to be shared > with OS/2 will need 8.3 naming. > 5. I can think of no reason to keep any OS > from "seeing" the other, but ..... > 6. I never let NT's fdisk ("disk administrator") > do anything. In fact, you are better off > to install NT first as its install seems to > mangle other partitions. > 7. You must have a C: partition that is either > fat or NTFS in order for NT to store its little > hidden files or else I don't think it will boot. > Older style OSes like WinXX seem to de- > pend on a primary partition to store this > kind of stuff and are not capable of independent > install on an extended part. like OS/2 and Linux. > 8. Partition everything with OS/2 fdisk, then do > any formatting and installs. > 9. Get DANIS506.ADD if you are IDE. It or the > newest idedasd.exe from IBM will be needed > if you have one of the >8.4GB drives. > 10. A maintenance partition is handy. Take > a look for bootos2 (I think ?) > > HTH, > -- > Howard Haradon, San Antonio, TX 78249 > > On Thu, 4 Nov 1999 15:08:32, dbongo@ibm.net wrote: > > > In <3823A058.6F0BFFB2@ibm.net>, Douglas Houck writes: > > >To answer your first set of questions, the easiest, most reliable way is > > >to have a FAT partition that you send zipped files back and forth to. > > >This allows for long file names from both NT and OS/2. > > > > > > > That's the current plan. I didn't realize it would/could be dangerous > > to get the multiple FS thing going on. > > > > >The other method is to put NT in a FAT partition, OS/2 in a HPFS > > >partition and get the NT 3.51 PINBALL.SYS file along with HPFS_NT.EXE. > > >This allows NT to read and write to the HPFS partitions. My experience > > >is to use OS/2's fdisk and format to make all partitions and > > >formatting. Also, NT won't like any HPFS partition greater than 8 gb. > > > > > > > I don't have NT 3.51, and don't know where to find a copy of PINBALL.SYS. > > But since I'm leaning towards just using a shared FAT partition, I shouldn't > > need it. > > > > >I have about 10 machines running NT in the primary and OS2 in the > > >logical partition and have found it to work successfully. I do try and > > >keep 32 bit NT programs on a FAT or NTFS partition. > > > > > >If you have any more questions let me know. > > > > > > > Thanks for the advice. I may just hide them from each other on primary > > partitions, rather than screw around with all this potentially dangerous > > stuff. You have had no problems with NT trashing your HPFS partitions? > > I ask because I always keep my applications on a separate partition from > > my OS. (Well, OS/2 stuff, anyways. Windows seems to like 1 big C: partition, > > and won't stand for multiple partitions. Too many things force themselves > > onto C:) > > > > Thanks for the advice. > > > > Dave --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Universidad de Zaragoza (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: Nullmudshark-505@worldnet.att.net 09-Nov-99 19:08:09 To: All 09-Nov-99 21:17:16 Subj: Re: Setting the hard disks' spin-down timers ? From: "Dave" I had a IBM drive that would spin down adn there was NO way to stop it, so I wrote this rexx proggy to fix that. You could start it up detached so it doesn't pop up in the window list, but it doesn't do that by defrault. It just creates a random temp file on the drive(s) edit at your will /* SpinUp Used to keep an HD from spinning down */ Call RxFuncAdd "SysLoadFuncs","REXXUTIL","SysLoadFuncs" call SysLoadFuncs '@echo off' do forever file = SysTempFilename(???) "echo hello > e:\" ||file "echo hello > f:\" ||file "echo hello > g:\"||file "echo hello > h:\"||file /* "echo hello > i:\" ||file "echo hello > j:\" ||file */ 'del e:\'||file 'del f:\'||file 'del g:\'||file 'del h:\'||file /* 'del i:\'||file 'del j:\'||file */ say time() call SysSleep(300) end /* do */ On 9 Nov 1999 00:24:41 +0100, Andreas Grosche wrote: >Can anybody recommend a program (preferably free, with a URL for download) >to set and deactivate the spin-down timers of (EIDE) hard disk drives under >OS/2 Warp 3 and 4 that can change these settings on the running system >(from command line or PM) and do not require the machine to be rebooted ? > >Thanks in advance for your help (please do also reply by eMail). > >Greetinx/2 > >Andreas Grosche --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: nope (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: FStolpmann@knuut.de 10-Nov-99 23:43:12 To: All 10-Nov-99 21:35:27 Subj: Re: DoVolIO Error From: Frank Stolpmann > > On Sat, 6 Nov 1999 10:27:35 GMT, Frank Stolpmann wrote: > > ->in the last few days my system hung several times due to an internal > ->processing error: > -> > ->WtHF: DoVolIO Error > > Cut and paste your IFS=HPFS.IFS line into a post here. > > > Trevor Hemsley, London, UK > (Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com) > Here is ts: IFS=F:\OS2\HPFS.IFS /CACHE:2048 /CRECL:4 /AUTOCHECK:FIGJK Bye. Frank Stolpmann FStolpmann@knuut.de http://home.knuut.de/FStolpmann -------------------------------------------------------------------- PGP key available. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Customer of UUNET Deutschland GmbH, Dortmund, Ger (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca 11-Nov-99 00:41:11 To: All 10-Nov-99 21:35:27 Subj: Re: Large capacity removable media From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong) Jerry (jbarring@arn.net) wrote: : I have found that Syquest is still alive, still doing warranty work : and selling drives and media. The media price has about doubled, but : the Sparq 1.0 Gb drive works very well, indeed. So, do you want to endores a product after most of the users have been on their fifth-sixth Sparq drive? The failure rate was absurd, warrenty or no warrenty. Like the name of the product indicates, the Sparq went up in flames. I would've gotten out of that by the 2nd return, myself and demanded a refund. I'm pretty glad I held off buying one of those and went with a CDRW later on. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: St. John's InfoNET (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jbarring@arn.net 10-Nov-99 20:02:17 To: All 10-Nov-99 23:25:14 Subj: Re: Large capacity removable media From: jbarring@arn.net (Jerry) On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 00:41:22, jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong) wrote: I don't know about others, but this is the original Sparq drive for me. It has not failed. Yes, from my experiences, I would endorse it. I am also considering the addition of a CDRW to my system. Good Luck Jerry --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: sfgrant@my-deja.com 11-Nov-99 05:40:16 To: All 11-Nov-99 03:54:25 Subj: Re: CDRW From: sfgrant@my-deja.com In article <807q8l$695$1@coranto.ucs.mun.ca>, jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong) wrote: > For anyone looking into buying a CDRW at a not too expensive > price, really ought to check out the Ricoh 7040 model. It is a 4x write, > 4x re-write, 20x read CDRW. Thing is, and this is the best part, from > what I have been reading (someone in a Linux newsgroup posted this) that > Ricoh has a firmware update for the 7040 line that actually makes it into > a 6x write, 4x re-write, and I think 24x read. But is there an OS/2 driver for it? I installed an HP8200i, and apparently the only OS/2 driver for it is costly, and from a company called, I think, RSJ. The Windows 98 partition on my machine, where the CDRW is fully supported, allows me to get around most of the consequences of not having an OS/2 driver. > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca 11-Nov-99 06:50:05 To: All 11-Nov-99 03:54:25 Subj: Re: CDRW From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong) sfgrant@my-deja.com wrote: : But is there an OS/2 driver for it? I installed an HP8200i, and : apparently the only OS/2 driver for it is costly, and from a company : called, I think, RSJ. The Windows 98 partition on my machine, where : the CDRW is fully supported, allows me to get around most of the : consequences of not having an OS/2 driver. CDRecord/2, works fine with it...provided it is the SCSI version. CDRecord/2 is free, BTW. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: St. John's InfoNET (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bov243@pasture.net 11-Nov-99 01:28:20 To: All 11-Nov-99 10:44:23 Subj: Re: Large capacity removable media From: Bovine Unit #243 >> Are the 5.25" MO disks single sided? I'm sure I read somewhere that both >> sides of the disk are used to achieve the capacity stated. >Depends on the disc. There are both single-sided and double-sided 5.25-inch >discs. With double-sided discs, you need to flip the disc over. 5.25-inch >discs are either WORM or rewritable, although all 3.5-inch MO discs are >rewritable and single-sided. Practically all higher-capacity 5.25" MO are double-sided. But so are current DVD-RAM. Right now there's no way to create re-writable (or WORM) multi-layered discs, whether DVD or not. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Moo Org. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: srogge@dimes.tudelft.nl 11-Nov-99 08:30:03 To: All 11-Nov-99 10:44:23 Subj: Re: Large capacity removable media From: Sven Rogge John Poltorak wrote: > SNIP > > Is there any chance of ever getting OS/2 support for DVD? > > -- > John Same question here. Just added a DVD-RAM to my work machine. Good support under NT (UDF), ok support under Linux (ext2), no support under OS/2. Random access 2x2.6GB for $30 is quite nice and the drive are also quite affordable. We have ext2 under OS/2. Can one make this work for a DVD-RAM under OS/2? I tried to create a fs on the DVD-RAM drive letter but failed. The 512/1024/2048 DASD driver also did not work since the DVD-RAM does not identify itself as type 7 = MO. Maybe a modified version of this filter would work? Any ideas? Sven --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: TU Delft / DIMES (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: srogge@dimes.tudelft.nl 11-Nov-99 08:44:12 To: All 11-Nov-99 10:44:23 Subj: Re: NTFS drivers for OS/2 and HPFS for WinNT From: Sven Rogge Paul Saletan wrote: > > Try HPFSNT.ZIP at http://hobbes.nmsu.edu. This program automatically > installs HPFS support -- no manual fiddling with the NT registry is > necessary. > > domi@kenavo.NOSPAM.fi (Dominique Pivard) wrote: > > >On Wed, 10 Nov 1999 15:58:51, hharadon@satx.rr.com wrote: > >> > >> hh: Thanks for the info. I knew that NT3.51 could read HPFS, but > >> M$ took it out of NT4 for techno-marketing reasons. ;-) > >> Where is PINBALL.SYS ? ? > > > >In Russia, of course ;-) > > > >Go to http://ftpsearch.lycos.com, enter pinball.sys and you'll be able > >to locate it ... > > The pinball.sys solution workes quite well under NT4 but not at all under Win2k (error during driver startup). Any idea on HPFS support in Win2k? Sven --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: TU Delft / DIMES (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: derek.vance.steel@natureboy.dyn.tj 11-Nov-99 06:22:18 To: All 11-Nov-99 10:44:23 Subj: Driver to Access HPFS Partitions from Win9x From: derek.vance.steel@natureboy.dyn.tj Hello All. I am looking for a driver to access HPFS partitions from Win9x. I used HPFSaccess a long time ago under dos, does anyone know of anything working with WIN9x? Derek starfire@pcs.tj --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Starfire Couriers (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca 11-Nov-99 11:57:15 To: All 11-Nov-99 10:44:24 Subj: (1/2) Backup & Defragmentation 3.5 From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong) Backup & Defragmentation 3.5 This is just a little primer drawn up in order to help OS/2 users to use common compression utilities such as PkZip for backing up their OS/2 drives. Another use for this is also to fight against fragmentation. OS/2's HPFS file system does not fragment like the way FAT drives do, but it does become susceptible to it when the drive is almost full. So, the best remedy is to backup the data, format the partition, then unarchive the backup back to the original partition and you are back in business. Prior to doing this, be sure to create boot disks in order to compress/uncompress the backup files. You can use either the Create Utility Diskettes option in OS/2's System Folder or (a better option) use BootOS/2 in order to make them. BootOS/2 in particular is more advantageous since it would only need two 3.5" 1.44 MB diskettes over the three needed by OS/2 Warp 3 & Connect and the four for OS/2 Warp 4. Plus, one can also use LxLite compression with BootOS/2 in order to save that little extra bit of disk space necessary. As well, you can probably use it for an LS-120 or ZIP disk whereas the Utility Diskettes option would not support it. BootOS/2 can be found at the Hobbes OS/2 Archive (http://hobbes.nmsu.edu). LxLite can be found at LEO (http://www.leo.org) and possibly also at Hobbes. I'm sure some will ask, "But John, what about PowerQuest's Drive Image or Norton's Ghost?" Well, there really is no problem with those programs. They do as advertised, they backup the hard drive into an image. That image can be restored onto a single machine (or if you have the Drive Image Pro) onto a network of multiple machines. Unfortunately, the problem with disk imaging programs like those is that they do absolutely nothing about the fragmentation of the file system. Keep in mind, programs like Drive Image and Ghost simply make a *mirror* image of the hard drive's partitions. This means that not only does it copy the data, but also the holes that whatever file system left behind after days, months, years, etc. of disk thrashing. In a nut shell, Drive Image and Ghost not only copy the hard drive data, but also the fragmentation of the file system. This is where this little primer really comes into play. Of course, the advantage with something like Drive Image Pro is the ability to restore onto a multitude of networked computers. Something that would be a pretty big pain in the butt by this method. EXTRA: It is a good idea to make your backups booting through your bootdisks since there maybe locked files that won't be compressed. Locked files are files that are currently in use by OS/2 and will not allow any kind of manipulation from the user to take place. EXTRA EXTRA: Before making a backup, it maybe a good idea to run CHKDSK from the bootable floppies first. Another thing, make sure you run CHKDSK (CHKDSK X: /F:2) twice in a row. I picked up this little tidbit from the "OS/2 Warp Unleashed" book by SAMS Publishing (fine book, BTW). It is found in Chapter 18, dealing with troubleshooting on page 941: "Note that if you running HPFS, then you should periodically run CHKDSK C: /F:2 twice. The first pass checks and cleans the primary HPFS structures, and the second pass checks and clears the secondary HPFS structures." BTW: When I say it was tested personally under an OS/2 system, it means that I had tested it under a bootable OS/2 partition and not just a partition with data on it. DISCLAIMER: The only guarentee that I can possibly give is that the methods here work on the systems that I have tested. All bets are off for OS/2 Warp for e-Business I'm afraid since I do not have that. I no longer have OS/2 Warp 4 anymore, either (sold that). I'm strictly running OS/2 Warp Connect, but I don't expect much to be different from OS/2 Warp 4 though. Basically the same kernel and filesystem afterall. It is with OS/2 Warp for e- Business that is a little different since its kernel no longer has that memory addressing limitation and uses a different method of organizing its file system due to the addition of JFS. Updates: * Added DISCLAIMER * RAR/2 2.60 * ARJ/2 2.62 * Windows 95 - FAT32 * BootOS/2 9.26 To Do List: * Testing ARJ/2 2.6x once it gets out of beta. Just wondering, has there been any progress with this lately? ARJ is now at v2.70. *NEWS* Warp for e-Business *NEWS* Okay, now that you've seent this, I have read of a user on Usenet trying to use RAR/2 2.50 in order to backup their Warp for e-Business partition. It didn't work, apparently the EA's were trashed. Possibly this may have something to do with the new LVM and JFS. I don't know since I do not have Warp for e-Business, and thus have no way of verifying. So at this point in time it is best not to try using any of these methods for backing up Warp for e-Business. In the event if anyone is successful, please email me ASAP and give me the details. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Overall ----------------------------------------------------------------- Compression | Disk Spanning | Requires PM | Recovery | EA's | ----------------------------------------------------------------- PkZip/2 2.50 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | Info-Zip 2.22 | No | No | Yes | Yes | RAR/2 2.60 | Yes | No | Yes | Yes | ARJ/2 2.62 Beta| Yes | No | Yes | No | ----------------------------------------------------------------- Disk Spanning: Ability to support multiple archives. Basically once the disk or cartridge is full, it can ask the user to insert another disk or cartridge in order for it continue. A Yes is good. Requires PM: Does the compression program require the PM, Presentation Manager. This is OS/2's GUI. A no is a good answer since it would be impossible to boot OS/2 up with regular floppies with the PM (unless it was a ZIP/LS-120 booting with A: drive). Recovery: Ability to recover/fix a corrupt archive, ie. PkZipFix. A yes here is a good answer. If the file is corrupt you can at least salvage something from it. EA's: Ability to save OS/2's Extended Attributes. A yes here is a must for OS/2. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Info-Zip for OS/2 (v2.22) http://www.cdrom.com/pub/infozip/ Works very well under OS/2. Use the following switches: zip -rS$ (destination/name of backup) * example: zip -rS$ F:\BACKUP.ZIP * Stick unzip.exe onto your OS/2 bootdisks, to restore the drive simply: unzip (name of backup) example: C: (being where I want it unzipped) unzip F:\BACKUP.ZIP Info-Zip is fine if you are just going to back it up to another partition or have a removable media drive large enough to fit it. Currently, Info-Zip is not able to handle disk spanning. It is a future feature to be added according to their home webpage when 3.0 comes out. Personally tested under a Warp 4 system (no FP's). ----------------------------------------------------------------- PkZip for OS/2 (v2.50) http://www.pkware.com Another that works well under OS/2. Perhaps a little better than Info-Zip since PkZip does handle disk spanning. Use the following switch: pkzip /add /attr=all /dir=full /rec /volume=(drive letter) (destination/name of backup) * example: pkzip /add /attr=all /dir=full /rec /volume=C F:\BACKUP.ZIP * To enable disk spanning, add the /span switch before the /volume one. Take note, use pkzip.exe, do not use pkzip2.cmd or else it will simply fail and just zip up the volume label in a file called "all.zip". Now to uncompress the archive, simply go: pkzip /attr=all /dir=full /extract /mask=none /rec /volume=C (destination/name of backup) example: pkzip /attr=all /dir=full /extract /mask=none /rec /volume=C F:\BACKUP.ZIP C: Personally tested under a Warp 4 system (no FP's). Extra Note: Apparently the geniuses at PkWare designed PkZip for OS/2 needing the Presentation Manager. So, using the boot disks from the Create Utility Disks function will not work. The only way for BootOS/2 to get this to work is with the TYPE=PM option. This of course will require a bootable device large enough to handle the extra data. So really you are going to need a bootable ZIP or LS-120 device in order to get this working. With that said, you can use unzip.exe in order to uncompress the pkzipped files. But, that has a problem too. Currently UnZip 5.40 will not be able to unzip multiple archives (like Zip 2.22). This is slated for the next major release (UnZip 6.00). ----------------------------------------------------------------- *UPDATED* RAR for OS/2 (v2.60) http://www.rarsoft.com So much for easiest. :-( The folks behind RAR are now combining the OS/2 and DOS versions together. Now that is not the problem I have with it, it is the fact that they are no longer going to provide a text-based shell for RAR does. After a couple of people emailed RARSOFT, the response they got back was that they have no intention of putting in a text-based shell anymore. So, RAR is relegated back to the rest of the command line utilities. Pity. It was a terrific and easy compression utility to use. I have kept the v2.50 instructions for anyone who still plans to use it, but be warned, there are some fixes that v2.60 brings that people maybe interested in. Here are the most notable fixes: 1. Both compression and speed have been improved for RAR archives. My thanks to Alexander Khoroshev and Bulat Ziganshin for hints, which allowed me to achieve this. 4. Previous RAR versions were not able to handle single files and archives larger than 2 GB. This limitation does not exist any more for RAR archives. The new limitation is slightly more than 8,589,934,591 GB, that practically means "unlimited". Note that Win-95/98 file systems cannot handle files larger than 4 GB, you need to use NTFS to work with such files. This improvement is valid only for RAR archives, 4 GB limitation for ZIP archives is not changed. 5. Significantly increased speed of scanning for large numbers of files before archiving operations. Memory management also is optimized, so now it is possible to handle hundreds of thousands, or even millions of files. WinRAR has been succesfully tested with over million files. 6. Console RAR shows the total percentage of processed data when archiving instead of the current file percentage as before. What is worse is that the RAR.TXT console manual is only distributed in the WinRAR 2.60 for Windows 95/98 file. I am just wondering if they are that intent on killing their DOS and OS/2 user base, but anyways... I have yet to get this to work unfortunately. :-( I tried this to backup my OS/2 boot drive (C:). C:\ rar32 a -m0 -r f:\test.rar It always comes out as "WARNING: No files added". Funny thing is, if I am in a directory it works. Like this: C:\UTILS rar32 a -r f:\test.rar Anything in my UTILS directory such as FM2UTILS will be archived properly. C:\UTILS\FM2UTILS \CDRECORD \ETC All that is compressed. Yet the thing is, if I am present in my C:\, then the warning message alluded to earlier will always appear. Did I miss anything? *OLD* RAR for OS/2 (v2.50) Easiest one to use due to its Norton Commander-like interface. Go into RAR's configuration (press F9, it is the first item on the menu) and make sure the following are checked on: X - Always Solid Archiving X - Put Recovery Record X - Read Only X - Hidden X - System X - Archive X - Save extended attributes It could also be a good idea to check on multimedia compression in order to get better compression. The rest is merely of choice, especially the compression (six methods to choose) whether to be for the best compression (slowest) or no compression at all in simply storing the files (fastest). In order to backup your OS/2 drive, simply hit the "+" key and push enter in order to highlight all the directories (or select whichever one's you intend to backup). Push F5 in order to compress onto a disk/cart and use Autodetect method in order to ensure spanning across disks/carts (or you can specify exactly what size you want). Very easy. Take Note: Do not use "UNRAR.EXE" to restore! Otherwise you will get a "Desktop can not be found in OS2.INI file, attempting to create Temporary Desktop" error message, where the Temperary Desktop will also fail, leaving you sitting at the PM with one OS/2 Window session. In order to restore, place RAR.EXE onto the OS/2 bootable diskettes. Start RAR.EXE up, now go to wherever you have the file backed up to, enter it, this will allow you view the files that are compressed inside the archived file. Once that is done, hit the "+" key and press enter in order to highlight all the files. Now, press ALT-F4 in order to restore by choosing the destination. Simply put in "C:" or wherever your original boot partition was. Once all of it extracted, there you go. I think we have a winner. Personally tested under a Warp 4 system (no FP's) and a Warp 3 system (FP40 applied). ----------------------------------------------------------------- ARJ/2 (v2.62) *UPDATE* http://hobbes.nmsu.edu I confess that I have not yet tested ARJ/2, but I wouldn't recommend using it just yet since it is still in a beta stage, and does not save EA's. But you could use EAUTIL in order to do this for you, but that is a bit of a chore especially since the other compression utilities here can do this automatically. So what would be the point? What's the point? Well, it looks like there is quite a good point now that RAR/2 has changed a bit. I am guilty of letting ARJ/2 go by the wayside. Hopefully I can make ammends by getting off my lazy duff and trying to figure out a way to get ARJ/2 working in this manner of B&D. Now, as I said earlier ARJ/2 is --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: St. John's InfoNET (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca 11-Nov-99 11:57:15 To: All 11-Nov-99 10:44:24 Subj: (2/2) Backup & Defragmentation 3.5 still in beta and does not save extended attributes. The EA's are as you know a pretty big deal for where OS/2 is concerned. Luckily there was help well before the ARJ/2 port was even started. EABACKUP & EARESTORE, two programs which make up EABK203.ZIP which can be downloaded from Hobbes. These utilities date way back to 1994! Their sole purpose of being is to backup/restore OS/2's extended attributes. Before I get started, be sure you use v2.61 and not v2.62, I remember getting an email from the guy making the port. He stated that there is a bug with v2.62, problem is I can't remember for the life of me on what that even was. I think it had something to do with the length of characters on a HPFS file name. So, best use v2.61 for now. You will also noticed that there is a LX compressed version available for download from Hobbes. Good idea to nab that one in order to stick onto the bootdisks. To backup OS/2, assuming your OS/2 drive is C: drive, run ARJ/2: arj a -a1 -b2 -jf -js -r -vvas X:/BACKUP.ARJ C: It will then go into its own command shell, just type in exit and it will start packing away. To adjust compression method, the syntax is -m<0-4>. 0 is for no compression (just storing), 1 is actually the best compression which is the default. 2-4 being lower, 4 beingt the fastest offering the least amount of compression. Now, there is a way to add build protection (-hk) but I would strongly recommend against it. I suppose this is like RAR/2's adding recovery record, but a warning to anyone using it, it takes forever just to complete. The (-va) is to enable the autodetection disk spanning. You can specify the amount if you wish (eg. -v1440 for 1.44 MB floppies). Now, to backup the EA's: EABACKUP C: X: /S This will create two files on the X: drive, EA@BDATA.EAB and EA@INDEX.EAB. Now you can format the C: drive. To restore, run: arj x X:/BACKUP.ARJ C: -vv -y Don't forget to restore the EA's! EARESTOR X: C: /S Now you are set, reboot and everything should now be working. Personally tested under a Warp 3 system (FP39 applied). ----------------------------------------------------------------- Note: I only intend to write about currently supported compression utilities. In otherwords, LHA and ZOO for instance I simply will ignore. Neither one has been updated since 1989-1993, and are relatively old and obsolete given the others listed here. Windows 95 - FAT32 (http://www.microsoft.com) - *UPDATED* So, you want to just dump OS/2 forever and head off into merry merry Windows 95 land? Well, I have not had the opportunity to try this using Windows 95 on a VFAT partition, but under FAT32, there is simply no way you can backup a Windows 95 partition using stuff like PkZip for Windows or WinRAR. The problem is that there are certain locked files at play. PkZip for Windows did complete, but now you have the even bigger problem of trying to restore it from a bootdisk. Won't happen, I'm afraid. When I tried this booting off of a Windows 95 boot disk, running PkZip 2.50's PkUnZip utility, it would not work because it complained of a lack of memory (apparently the FAT32 support on the bootdisk takes up a lot of memory as I'm always stuck with 542k conventional RAM). The last hope was RAR for DOS, but that too also complained of a lack of memory. So, what's the point of using a Windows compression utility in order to backup the entire Windows 95 partition if there is absolutely *NO* way of restoring it? Now, where exactly am I going with all this? Simple, thanks to the great FAT32 driver written by Henk Kelder, one can actually follow the exact methods listed here with the various compression utilities in order for OS/2 to backup Windows 95 through OS/2! Using RAR/2 in the identical manner listed earlier will allow you to backup a Windows 95 partition. Once backed up, you can boot up with the Windows 95 bootdisk and then format the partition, re-boot back into OS/2 and use RAR/2 in order to restore the Windows 95 partition back to its previous state. Now when you look at the disk with Norton Speedisk or booting Windows 95 up with a bootdisk in order to use ScanDisk (to see the entire disk information) you will see all the clusters neatly arranged in perfect order. No fragmentation! The advantage to using this method over using programs like Microsoft Defrag or Norton Speedisk is that they are not always perfect and can in fact at some times break files. My motivation in going to all of this trouble was because after using Defrag, I found that one of my .WAV files in my Multimedia Themes was broken and could not be accessible. Imagine what else could break. I have not tried using Info-ZIP or PkZip for OS/2, but I figure they would work with the same restrictions applied (ie. Info-Zip no disk spanning, PkZip needing the Presentation Manager). In order to install Henk's FAT32 driver, I simply followed the quicky instructions he had listed in the FAT32.TXT file, using PARTFLT.FLT and not the OS2DASD.DMD file he had modifyed (on my OS/2 box it trapped as a result). On the IFS=FAT32 line I did not have /EAS on (enabling Extended Attribute support). So, do you *really* want to dump OS/2? Didn't think so. A question...could this method work with Linux? There is a ext2 driver available for OS/2, that I know of. Perhaps that is something else for me to try and play with! ;-) Ok, I may have jumped the gun here. ;-) Apparently there is a way to do this under Windows 95 and I'll assume Windows 98. I won't bother detailing the methods but it will require a piece of shareware called DOSLFNBK in order to backup its long file names. But, it is nice to know that one can do this within OS/2 anyways. I am definately going to find out whether or not one can do this with Linux. There is an ext2 file system driver available for OS/2. The reason why is that I see no way of actually doing this under Linux. CONCLUSION The best compression program for backing up OS/2 with should by right be RAR/2, but I can't get it working properly. So the title for "Best Compression Utility" is essential up for grabs. However, for those that have been using RAR/2 2.50 without any problems should probably keep doing so. I just hope that the newest version of RAR/2 can be made to work since it does offer some fixes. As for the other compression utilities, each and everyone one has their own little drawback. Info-Zip is great, until you want it to span across multiple disks/carts. PkZip was almost the one, but the folks at PkWare thought it was necessary that the Presentation Manager be loaded with it, too. The only real drawback that ARJ/2 has is that it is still labelled as beta software and I have not heard anything about it in the past year. Ironically enough, the heir apparent to RAR/2 2.50 looks like it is a piece of beta software. That's right. ARJ/2. Only you will need EABK203.ZIP from Hobbes in order to really get it working. Hopefully, by the time ARJ/2 gets out of beta, one would not need EABK203.ZIP anymore. So for the people that have been having problems with RAR/2 2.50 with the new OS/2 Warp for e- Business, give ARJ/2 a go and report back to me. BOOTOS/2 Notes: *UPDATE* http://hobbes.nmsu.edu - latest version is 9.26 The documentation in the latest version of BootOS/2 (9.26) states that the problem being described later is supposed to be now fixed. There seems to be a problem with Warp Connect & FP39 when trying to make a BootOS/2 TARGET=x TYPE=PM partition. It creates it fine, but when I boot it up, it freezes at the "OS/2" box that appears on the top left-hand corner. Weird. I could not boot to a PM partition (BOOTOS2 TARGET=x TYPE=PM) even when I was back down in FP26! Same symptom occurs, during bootup it just freezes at the "OS/2" box on the top left-hand corner. The samething also occurs in FP40, BTW. Even making just the floppies seems to cause a small error with Warp 3 & Connect. Under FP40, for instance, upon making the two disk system (BOOTOS2 2DISK=A) after loading up the first disk it would give me a blank screen and stop dead in its tracks, going no further. The solution, copy SESMGR.DLL from your x:\OS2\DLL onto your BOOTOS2 disk 1 (A:\OS2\DLL). This also happened under FP39, BTW. If you do run into any other kind of problem with the BOOTOS2 floppies, press ALT-F2 upon booting up the diskettes just to see what happens. On this occasion for example, upon pressing ALT-F2, the screen said that SESMGR.DLL was not installed in any of the LIBPATH directory statements on the diskette. Warp 4 seems to have absolutely no issues whatsoever, either a TYPE=PM or 2DISK=A under any of the FP's I have used (FP1, FP6, & FP10). --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: St. John's InfoNET (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: letoured@nospam.net 11-Nov-99 08:22:26 To: All 11-Nov-99 14:39:01 Subj: Re: CDRW From: letoured@nospam.net >: But is there an OS/2 driver for it? I installed an HP8200i, and >: apparently the only OS/2 driver for it is costly, and from a company >: called, I think, RSJ. The Windows 98 partition on my machine, where >: the CDRW is fully supported, allows me to get around most of the >: consequences of not having an OS/2 driver. There are trade-offs to this. With RSJ you can use a CD as a standard drive. The wincrap means you have to spend and hour formating the CDs. _____________ Ed Letourneau --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca 11-Nov-99 13:48:18 To: All 11-Nov-99 14:39:01 Subj: Re: CDRW From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong) John Hong (jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca) wrote: : sfgrant@my-deja.com wrote: : : But is there an OS/2 driver for it? I installed an HP8200i, and : : apparently the only OS/2 driver for it is costly, and from a company : : called, I think, RSJ. The Windows 98 partition on my machine, where : : the CDRW is fully supported, allows me to get around most of the : : consequences of not having an OS/2 driver. : CDRecord/2, works fine with it...provided it is the SCSI version. : CDRecord/2 is free, BTW. Forgot to add that the firmware upgrade is a Win95 application so you will need at least that on the machine somewhere. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: St. John's InfoNET (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: marky_marky@bellatlantic.net 11-Nov-99 22:42:17 To: All 11-Nov-99 21:27:03 Subj: Re: Backup & Defragmentation 3.5 From: marky_marky@bellatlantic.net (Marky) On 11 Nov 1999 11:57:31 GMT, jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong) wrote: > > Backup & Defragmentation 3.5 > snip! > I'm sure some will ask, "But John, what about PowerQuest's >Drive Image or Norton's Ghost?" Well, there really is no problem >with those programs. They do as advertised, they backup the hard >drive into an image. That image can be restored onto a single >machine (or if you have the Drive Image Pro) onto a network of >multiple machines. Unfortunately, the problem with disk imaging >programs like those is that they do absolutely nothing about the >fragmentation of the file system. Keep in mind, programs like >Drive Image and Ghost simply make a *mirror* image of the hard >drive's partitions. This means that not only does it copy the >data, but also the holes that whatever file system left behind >after days, months, years, etc. of disk thrashing. In a nut shell, >Drive Image and Ghost not only copy the hard drive data, but also >the fragmentation of the file system. This is where this little >primer really comes into play. Of course, the advantage with >something like Drive Image Pro is the ability to restore onto a >multitude of networked computers. Something that would be a pretty >big pain in the butt by this method. While I agree with you that Drive Image saves an image _with_ the fragmentation, Ghost does not work that way. From personal experience, (FAT only) I can tell you that Ghost does file by file copying to and from saved images. It is also saving additional info besides just the files so it can restore the paritioning and boot sector info (for the drive and each partition). The file by file copying means that on restores, all the files and the free space are defragmented. I haven't experienced directory fragmentation, but it may be possible with directories that require more than one cluster: I just don't know. Unfortunately, at least as of 5.1c, you are correct that you can't use Ghost for backup and restore. The 5.1c version, saving on a file by file basis, does not understand the additional info in the directory entry that links an OS/2 file to EA DATA. SF (at least on FAT partitions: I never tried it on HPFS). The result being, on a restore, the EA info is totally corrupted. This is supposedly fixed in 5.1d, which I have, but I haven't tried it on a partition with EAs yet. Or, you could use EABACKUP and EARESTOR, as you suggest for other tools that don't understand EAs. Marky --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rsstan@ibm.net 11-Nov-99 19:20:03 To: All 11-Nov-99 21:27:04 Subj: Re: Orb Drive Reliability? From: "Bob Stan" On Wed, 10 Nov 1999 14:43:22 GMT, Ken Walter wrote: >I saw reviews on computers.com that thr Orb drive has >a high failure rate. I would like to hear of OS/2 experiences. > >It also seems that only internal EIDE drives are available. >Any comments on this? > I have an Orb internal IDE drive. Actually my second. The first failed after about a month of use. It was replaced with no hassle, but took about four weeks for the replacement to arrive. The second has worked fine for about five months. I have had no problems with the cartridges. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: cjhrph@mindspring.com 12-Nov-99 11:02:06 To: All 12-Nov-99 10:28:26 Subj: Warp 3 install problems From: Christopher J Houle Can someone help me install Warp on my system. I currently have several problems: 1. Fdisk could not recognize my > 4 gb drive. I was able to surmount this by downloading the drivers from ibm and including it on install disk 1. 2. I am unable to install all of the drivers from the driver file onto disk one because they wont fit. Is there any way around this ? 3. After getting disk 6 to install, the machine reboots and is just locked up in dead black space. It will not go any further. If you can help please email me --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: MindSpring Enterprises (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: skidmarx@att.net 12-Nov-99 19:33:02 To: All 12-Nov-99 21:25:09 Subj: How to set partition Installable ??? From: "Gregory L. Marx" Hello, Does anyone know how to set a drive partition "Installable"? Besides the normal FDISK route ... Tried that and it doesn't work !!! I'm trying to install Warp 4 on the slave drive (a 2gig Fujitsu) of my Primary IDE port. It allows for setting "Startable" sortof - when I run FDISK again the "Startable attribute is reset. What is the sercret ? Any help would be GREATLY appreciated !!! Thanks, Gregory L. Marx skidmarx@att.net --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: AT&T WorldNet Services (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca 13-Nov-99 00:58:10 To: All 12-Nov-99 21:25:09 Subj: Re: How to set partition Installable ??? From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) On Sat, 13 Nov 1999 00:33:04, "Gregory L. Marx" wrote: > Hello, > > Does anyone know how to set a drive partition "Installable"? > > Besides the normal FDISK route ... Tried that and it doesn't work !!! > > I'm trying to install Warp 4 on the slave drive (a 2gig Fujitsu) of my > Primary IDE port. > It allows for setting "Startable" sortof - when I run FDISK again the > "Startable attribute is reset. > > What is the sercret ? > > Any help would be GREATLY appreciated !!! Do you have boot manager installed? I believe that is required to set a partition on the secondary drive(s) as installable. Lorne Sunley --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: MBnet Networking Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +============================================================================+