comp.os.os2.apps (Usenet) Saturday, 06-Nov-1999 to Friday, 12-Nov-1999 +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: huffd@nls.net 06-Nov-99 01:26:23 To: All 06-Nov-99 03:33:25 Subj: Re: Binary News Reader From: "David D. Huff Jr." Use BinSuk version 1.7 ( I prefer it over version 1.8) it is very easy to use. It eliminates duplicate (ah files) and can be very selective to the size of the (ah file) even if the suffix ends in .jpg Grab it off my UnOfficial Hobbes Mirror -- http://www.computer-critters.com/hobbes/pub/os2/apps/internet/news/util/binsuk1 7.zip or Hobbes http://hobbes.nmsu.edu same directory for version 1.8 Cam wrote: > I've been trying to get Binary News Reader ver 1.37 running (W4 no > fixpacks). > > I'm getting a Sys2070 error. The explanation seems to be that BNR is > not recognized as an OS2 program. The session screen of the properties > is greyed out. > > Any comments. An alternate program that will help me sift through > binaries ng would be an option. I don't care much for NewsHarvest, > because it seems to want to decode everything, rather than allowing me > to browse headers first :-( > > Thanks > > Cam --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: huffd@nls.net 06-Nov-99 01:32:06 To: All 06-Nov-99 03:33:25 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: "David D. Huff Jr." It's the Stockholm Syndrome, Patty Herst did the same thing. The back-lash comes from utter despair in knowing that you are not where you want to be but can't find your way out of the quagmire. > > > It is very strange that he was one of the biggest advocates of OS/2 and the > biggest basher of microcrap, now he turned 180 degrees. I wonder if he used > to do the same in MS NGs back in his OS/2 utopia days? > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > "I tend to stay away from the Advocacy groups to avoid the WindTrolls" > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: fgearhart@voyager.net 06-Nov-99 01:37:16 To: All 06-Nov-99 03:33:25 Subj: Re: NS backup.. From: fgearhart@voyager.net On Fri, 5 Nov 1999 10:51:34, "Wayne Bickell" wrote: > On 05 Nov 1999 05:28:33 GMT, fgearhart@voyager.net wrote: > > :>I want to delete and reinstall NS 4.61, since the darn thing crashes > :>every time I try to email. (_Every_ time. Grrrr..) Anyway, anyone > :>got any tips on backing up all my messages and restoring them easily? > :>Could there be any glitches that could get passed on this way to a new > :>install? > :> > :>tia, > :> > :>Fritz > > When I de-installed 4.04 to install 4.61 it left my user subdirectories > intact. The first time I started 4.61 it asked me to create a new profile > I entered the same name as the one already there and it used it no > problems. > > If you're worried just drag out a copy of your user directory. > > Cheers > > Wayne Thank you much! I will do just that! Fritz --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Voyager.Net - East Lansing, MI (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: alan@min.net.notspam 06-Nov-99 02:04:16 To: All 06-Nov-99 03:33:25 Subj: Re: Quicken 98 under os/2 From: alan@min.net.notspam In , on 11/05/99 at 01:27 AM, lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) said: >> >> Which ETC should be my ETC directory, \tcpip\dos\etc or \mptn\etc? I keep >> seeing different recommendations. >The SET ETC=\mptn\etc command is for CONFIG.SYS >and applies to OS/2 applications. >The SET ETC=\TCPIP\DOS\ETC is for AUTOEXEC.BAT >and applies to DOS and WINOS2 applications. This makes sense! Thanks. Let's hope it solves my problems. Where does winsock.dll belong, in \tcpip\dos\etc? I know there should be only one one copy, and it should be the one the came with Warp. --------------------------------------------------------------------- *** Please remove .notspam from my address to reply via e-mail. *** Nerve Center BBS (Fidonet 1:261/1000) 410-655-4708 Posted by Alan Hess using registered MR/2 ICE Newsreader #564 --------------------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: @Home Network (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com 05-Nov-99 19:13:16 To: All 06-Nov-99 03:33:25 Subj: Re: Quicken 98 under os/2 From: "Graham C. Norris" John Poltorak wrote: > Can someone explain the point of having %ETC% using different directories > under OS/2 and DOS? I'd much rather have a single hosts file which is used > from all environments. It's quite likely because ETC doesn't always just contain a couple of tables of data, especially on *nix. Also, if the DOS support is less capable than the OS/2 support, some of the files you don't change may need to be different. Finally, if you have dual boot you may actually want a separate DOS ETC directory for TCP/IP under DOS (the OS/2 one might be on HPFS). I'll agree it's a pain! Graham. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid 06-Nov-99 00:35:09 To: All 06-Nov-99 03:33:25 Subj: Re: im looking for a decent browser for OS/2 Warp 3...anyone have one? From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid (John Thompson) In <7vvd1d$hi3$1@atom.nectec.or.th>, thomasa@swu.ac.th writes: >In , nospam@savebandwidth.invalid (John Thompson) writes: >>In , "user" writes: >> >>>i need a full java supporting browser for OS/2 Warp 3 for use on my LAN. any >>>suggestions would be apreciated >> >>Have you tried Netscape? You can download v4.61 from IBM's >>"Software Choice" web site. While you're there pick up Java >>v1.1.8 also; works a treat with Netscape. >Will v4.61 work with Warp 3 (and not just Warp 4)? Yup. I use it here with Warp v3 FP38 and Java v1.1.8. IIRC, you need one of the later fixpacks (FP32?) to use Java properly, but that's about the only restriction. I'm using Netscape/2 v4.61 on Warp v3 and it works fine; it just isn't a "supported configuration" as far as IBM is concerned. IOW, don't ask IBM for help if you run into problems, but that's nothing new for most of us. -John (John.Thompson@attglobal.net) --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: The Crimson Permanent Assurance (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: postmaster@[127.0.0.1] 05-Nov-99 21:46:05 To: All 06-Nov-99 03:33:25 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: postmaster@[127.0.0.1] In , on 11/05/99 at 04:34 PM, "/2 User" said: >>The former Ominor does have a few worthwhile things to say, although I >>remain mystified why he bothers to hang about OS/2 newsgroups when he >>has obviously decided beyond any shadow of doubt that WinNT is the way >>of the future... >It is very strange that he was one of the biggest advocates of OS/2 and >the biggest basher of microcrap, now he turned 180 degrees. I wonder if he >used to do the same in MS NGs back in his OS/2 utopia days? If this is the Ominor I remember correctly from my "Fight-O-Net" days, I find his transition strange also. OTOH, some zealots just become zealots for the other side without really thinking, IMO. -- GK FrodoJRR at Interaccess dot com OS/2 Version 4.00 FixPack 12 There are 31 Processes with 126 Threads. This machine's uptime is 10d 4h 36m 26s 968ms. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jmprice@calweb.com 05-Nov-99 20:24:14 To: All 06-Nov-99 03:33:25 Subj: AIM for Java - OS/2 From: John M Price PhD Well, I installed it. It continually 'times out'. Thinking it is teh connection, I tried the version with Netscape for Win98 - no problem. Any hints? -- John M. Price, PhD jmprice@calweb.com Life: Chemistry, but with feeling! | PGP Key on request or FTP! Email responses to my Usenet articles will be posted at my discretion. Comoderator: sci.psychology.psychotherapy.moderated Atheist# 683 Syndicate Section III - Number 1 Irrationalist trends indubitably do exist,and may be prominent in the wider society, but they are not conspicuous *within* the actual practice of science. Oddly enough, they actually proliferate in the meta-theory of science, and also within fringe subjects of questionable scientific status. - Ernest Gellner (Reason and Culture, 1992) --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: his very own desk! (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: Exovede@ImpaleTheSpammers.Com@Vi... 06-Nov-99 04:21:12 To: All 06-Nov-99 03:33:25 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy Message sender: Exovede@ImpaleTheSpammers.Com@Videotron.ca From: Exovede@ImpaleTheSpammers.Com@Videotron.ca (Michel A Goyette) Fri, 5 Nov 1999 11:46:27, Bob Germer a ‚crit: > For some time I have had a watch killing all incoming messages from > McCoy.I see from many replies that he is still spreading lies here on > behalf of MicroSlop. > > For those who don't know, this is a very, very disturbed individual who > needs to be locked in a padded cell and forcefed the medications he > refuses to take. Until then, I suggest you apply a kill filter to keep him > from his wasteful activities. Don't worry. He's already in a padded cell...Micro$oft cell that is. And he's going to take the medication (Win200x to keep him in his state) and pay by the nose whether he likes it or not. He's gone, that's all. Another one in Bill's thrashcan. Salut, Michel (sur OS/2 Warp 4.07) ICQ #13376913 http://pages.infinit.net/exovede --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: mohd.k.yusof@bohm.anu.edu.au 06-Nov-99 16:16:21 To: All 06-Nov-99 03:33:25 Subj: Re: AIM for Java - OS/2 From: mohd.k.yusof@bohm.anu.edu.au (Khairil Yusof) On Sat, 6 Nov 1999 04:24:29, John M Price PhD wrote: > Well, I installed it. It continually 'times out'. Thinking it is teh > connection, I tried the version with Netscape for Win98 - no problem. If you don't have any problems using telnet to reach other sites, try putting in port 23 in the settings. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Australian National University (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca 06-Nov-99 05:30:02 To: All 06-Nov-99 03:33:25 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) On Fri, 5 Nov 1999 11:46:27, Bob Germer wrote: > For some time I have had a watch killing all incoming messages from > McCoy.I see from many replies that he is still spreading lies here on > behalf of MicroSlop. > > For those who don't know, this is a very, very disturbed individual who > needs to be locked in a padded cell and forcefed the medications he > refuses to take. Until then, I suggest you apply a kill filter to keep him > from his wasteful activities. > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------- > Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: bobg@Pics.com > Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 12 > MR/2 Ice Registration Number 67 > Aut Pax Aut Bellum > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------- > Do you think this could be moved to a newsgroup that is more pertinent to the subject material? Something like alt.flames.personal :-) There is very little in this thread that has to do with comp.os.os2.apps Thankyou Lorne Sunley --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: MBnet Networking Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: forgitaboutit@fake.com 06-Nov-99 00:37:20 To: All 06-Nov-99 03:33:25 Subj: Re: OS/2 Application Gripes From: David H. McCoy In article , Exovede@ImpaleTheSpammers.Com says... >Wed, 3 Nov 1999 03:45:24, David H. McCoy a >écrit: > >> In article , >> Exovede@ImpaleTheSpammers.Com says... >> >> >> 'Fraid not. I'm using Win2000 RC 1, and I am enjoying it. I was just trying the >> >> keep the topic focused. >> > >> > Keep us inform about the licenses fees (one license for each user >> >instead of each machine) and the mandatory registration. On other >> >thought, don't. ;-) >> >> Doesn't concern me. The NT 4 Workstation upgrade is $149. That's $20 more than >> I paid for the OS/2 Warp 4 upgrade and certainly provides more bang for the >> buck out of box than OS/2 Warp 4 did, for me anyway. > > Wierd...I find that OS/2 provides more bang than NT. The only more >"bang" NT provided me is with problems in heterogenous systems. So, >"No Thanks", "Nice Try" and "New Trashcan". That's fine, but old takes on 'NT' do not really back up your contention. Care to try it without tired jokes? >> TRY taking off the blinders long enough to READ the article. > > Hmmm, you we're not talking about NT4 here but Win2000 (aka NT5 since >???). Actually, I was talking about feeling very proud of an OS. >Salut, > > Michel (sur OS/2 Warp 4.07) > ICQ #13376913 > http://pages.infinit.net/exovede > -- --------------------------------------- David H. McCoy dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com --------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: OminorTech (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: forgitaboutit@fake.com 06-Nov-99 00:40:06 To: All 06-Nov-99 03:33:25 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: David H. McCoy In article , dtander@agt.net says... >On Fri, 5 Nov 1999 11:46:27, Bob Germer >wrote: > >> For some time I have had a watch killing all incoming messages from >> McCoy.I see from many replies that he is still spreading lies here on >> behalf of MicroSlop. >> >> For those who don't know, this is a very, very disturbed individual who >> needs to be locked in a padded cell and forcefed the medications he >> refuses to take. Until then, I suggest you apply a kill filter to keep him >> from his wasteful activities. > >I think we can all make up our own minds on this one, Bob... > >The former Ominor does have a few worthwhile things to say, although I >remain mystified why he bothers to hang about OS/2 newsgroups when he >has obviously decided beyond any shadow of doubt that WinNT is the way >of the future... > >David T. Anderson >Calgary, Alberta > I don't recall saying that WinNT is the way of the future. As for posting, why not? I don't force anyone to read what I have to type? However, I would enjoy reading about the lies I am spreading. That would be interesting. -- --------------------------------------- David H. McCoy dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com --------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: OminorTech (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: d.s.darrow@nvinet.com 04-Nov-99 15:57:16 To: All 06-Nov-99 03:33:25 Subj: Re: Uninstalling old Netscapes From: "Doug Darrow" On 4 Nov 1999 17:20:54 EDT, Jules Greenstein wrote: > I now have three versions of Netscape (2.02, 4.04, and 4.61) on my >system (Warp4 Fixpak 11). They all work OK, but I am happy with 4.61 and >would like to delete the 2.02 and 4.04 versions. > > What's the best way to go about it? I don't want to lose my mail and >bookmark folders (currently in the 4.04 directory). > > Any tips or experiences will be appreciated... > You'll note that the personal files (bookmarks, history, etc.) are all located in the /USERS/YourUserName/ subdirectory in 4.04. NSC 4.61 uses them where thay are already located, by default. Just drag a copy of the /USERS/ subdirectory tree into the same location in the 4.61 directory. (You DID install 4.61 into a separate directory as instructed to in the README, didn't you?) Then (to be on the safe side) rename your 4.04 directory so that 4.61 can't find it. When you next start 4.61 you get an error msg, something to the effect that NS can't find the default user directory, do you want to recreate it? Say YES and it will update the .ini files to use the info in the new /USER/ and everything will be exactally as before. You can then delete the 4.04 and 2.02 dir trees completely. And don't forget to remove the respective entries from config.sys. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: dave@david-lister.co.uk 06-Nov-99 07:03:18 To: All 06-Nov-99 03:33:25 Subj: Linkwiz From: dave@david-lister.co.uk Hi, Does anyone have experience of Linkwiz? I have used it regularly since I went to OS/2 several years ago now and rely on it entirely since I transfer files between my desktop & notebook every day. Generally, I find it OK, but it has problems - the main one being PCX themselves! Their support is, in my experience, non-existant. Anyway, the reason for my query now is that I have version 2.52 which dates back to 1996 and I don't think that it is Y2K compliant. Lately I've tried to go to PCX's website and can't connect. Does anyone know if they are still in business?? If not, does anyone have experience of a good alternative product? I also used Linkright for a while but that died too! Dave Lister ------------------------------------------------------------- dave@david-lister.co.uk David Lister Accountancy Services http://www.david-lister.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: GXSN (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: @tin.it 06-Nov-99 07:35:08 To: All 06-Nov-99 05:25:27 Subj: Re: Styler/2 AKA SmartWindows Increases Performace? From: @tin.it (Alessandro Cantatore) In article <3821659A.C0B6A44C@clear.net.nz>, Aaron Lawrence wrote: >I seem to recall that the Styler/2 docs say it will improve performance >by removing some redundant black and white resources (now obsolete) and >the like from dialogs etc. This is probably stated in the Dialog Enhancer documentation... I never wrote such a thing (and I do not know either if that statement is in any case valid) My program substitutes some parts of the procedures of some kind of PM controls with its own code. Somebody else in past wrote me he got the feeling of performance increase. I did nothing to improve performance... it might be a side effect showing in some particular cases... I would rather expect a slight decrease of performance, usually in the range of microseconds so nothing detectable in the normal use or from programs like sysbench... -- bye Alessandro Cantatore email reply to: alexcant at: tin.it http://acsoft.ghostbbs.cx --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: TIN (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk 06-Nov-99 11:04:03 To: All 06-Nov-99 10:27:24 Subj: Re: Need new tape backup From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak) In <38207D7D.CB8EB890@dundee.ac.uk>, Charles Christacopoulos writes: >"Camilla Cracchiolo (Camilla Cracchiolo, R.N.)" wrote: >> >> I have to get a new tape drive. >Check http://www.cristie.com/ >I am looking to purchase one of their drives (admittedly a large >autoloader) and they may be willing to bundle their backup software for >os/2. Well if you ask them nicely they will as they seem to bundle the >Win95 crap with them. I've been asking Cristie if they will be providing OS/2 drivers for the Onstream 30/50 GB tape drives, and they hope to have something available in a month or two. These drives seem too good to be true, pricewise, - no idea on reliability though... >-- >Remove REMOVE_ME to reply. >------------------------------------------------------------------- >Charles Christacopoulos, Secretary's Office, University of Dundee, >Dundee DD1 4HN, (Scotland) United Kingdom. >Tel: +44+(0)1382-344891. Fax: +44+(0)1382-201604. >http://somis.ais.dundee.ac.uk/ (runs on OS/2) >Scottish Search Maestro http://somis2.ais.dundee.ac.uk/ (runs on OS/2 >too) -- John --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Legend Internet Ltd (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jmprice@calweb.com 06-Nov-99 06:45:04 To: All 06-Nov-99 14:35:29 Subj: Re: AIM for Java - OS/2 From: John M Price PhD In comp.os.os2.apps article Khairil Yusof wrote: : On Sat, 6 Nov 1999 04:24:29, John M Price PhD wrote: :> Well, I installed it. It continually 'times out'. Thinking it is teh :> connection, I tried the version with Netscape for Win98 - no problem. : If you don't have any problems using telnet to reach other sites, try putting in : port 23 in the settings. On th elogin.oscar, replacing 5190, I can't even get authorized. -- John M. Price, PhD jmprice@calweb.com Life: Chemistry, but with feeling! | PGP Key on request or FTP! Email responses to my Usenet articles will be posted at my discretion. Comoderator: sci.psychology.psychotherapy.moderated Atheist# 683 Syndicate Section III - Number 1 Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisoned; yet, we have not advanced one inch toward uniformity. What has been the effect of coercion? To make one half the world fools, and the other half hypocrites. To support roguery and error all over the earth. - Thomas Jefferson --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: his very own desk! (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jbrock@panix.com 06-Nov-99 09:53:20 To: All 06-Nov-99 14:35:29 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: jbrock@panix.com (John Brock) In article , /2 User wrote: >On Fri, 05 Nov 1999 15:52:16 GMT, David T. Anderson wrote: >>The former Ominor does have a few worthwhile things to say, although I >>remain mystified why he bothers to hang about OS/2 newsgroups when he >>has obviously decided beyond any shadow of doubt that WinNT is the way >>of the future... >It is very strange that he was one of the biggest advocates of OS/2 and the >biggest basher of microcrap, now he turned 180 degrees. I wonder if he used >to do the same in MS NGs back in his OS/2 utopia days? I found McCoy's "Ominor" shtick singularly unimpressive, and I said so at the time. Given that he has spent *far* more time bashing OS/2 than he ever spent advocating it, maybe that was his plan from the start! -- John Brock jbrock@panix.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Panix (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nospam_evr@spam.net 06-Nov-99 11:21:23 To: All 06-Nov-99 14:36:00 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: "/2 User" On Sat, 06 Nov 1999 04:21:25 GMT, Michel A Goyette wrote: > Don't worry. He's already in a padded cell...Micro$oft cell that is. > And he's going to take the medication (Win200x to keep him in his >state) and pay by the nose whether he likes it or not. He's gone, >that's all. Another one in Bill's thrashcan. How true, and we will turn the millenium without spending a dime updating our "OLD" Y2K compliant OS. Old yes but still way ahead of windose. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "I tend to stay away from the Advocacy groups to avoid the WindTrolls" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nospam_evr@spam.net 06-Nov-99 11:24:03 To: All 06-Nov-99 14:36:00 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: "/2 User" On Sat, 6 Nov 1999 00:40:13 -0500, David H. McCoy wrote: >I don't recall saying that WinNT is the way of the future. As for posting, why >not? I don't force anyone to read what I have to type? $eem$ to be the ways for your future, Bill want$ you to dig deeper in your pocket$. > >However, I would enjoy reading about the lies I am spreading. That would be >interesting. >-- What lies? Bash away! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "I tend to stay away from the Advocacy groups to avoid the WindTrolls" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nospam_evr@spam.net 06-Nov-99 11:25:11 To: All 06-Nov-99 14:36:00 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: "/2 User" On 6 Nov 1999 09:53:41 -0500, John Brock wrote: >>It is very strange that he was one of the biggest advocates of OS/2 and the >>biggest basher of microcrap, now he turned 180 degrees. I wonder if he used >>to do the same in MS NGs back in his OS/2 utopia days? > >I found McCoy's "Ominor" shtick singularly unimpressive, and I said so >at the time. Given that he has spent *far* more time bashing OS/2 than >he ever spent advocating it, maybe that was his plan from the start! Maybe he has always secretly admired Bill Gates;-) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "I tend to stay away from the Advocacy groups to avoid the WindTrolls" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nospam_evr@spam.net 06-Nov-99 11:33:22 To: All 06-Nov-99 14:36:00 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: "/2 User" On Sat, 06 Nov 1999 11:21:47 -0500 (EST), /2 User wrote: Hey David, we are already at our 3rd (OS/2 will never see) Netscape release and Scietech is working on display drivers for us. So go put that in your pipe and smoke it. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "I tend to stay away from the Advocacy groups to avoid the WindTrolls" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: swsnyder@home.com 06-Nov-99 17:46:26 To: All 06-Nov-99 16:43:23 Subj: Re: Need new tape backup From: "Steve Snyder" On Sat, 06 Nov 1999 17:37:50 GMT, Stephen Eickhoff (remove the - to reply) wrote: >"Camilla Cracchiolo (Camilla Cracchiolo, R.N.)" wrote: [snip] >> I'm considering a Seagate SCSI 8 Gig backup. Anyone here have >> experience with this drive? Also, I'm currently using Backmaster. >> Will it support this tape drive or do I have to get BackAgain/2? >> >> Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the >> newsgroup. > >I have the ST8000N and use it with Novaback. It works great, I usually get >about 38MB/min >with it. You MUST get a cleaner kit, though, and use it every few backups. I >let my drive get dirty and had to use three swabs on it just to do a full >restore. I too have a ST8000N which I use with Seagate's Backup Exec. As noted above, this drive is fast. I'm very happy with it. ***** Steve Snyder ***** --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: @Home Network (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: operagost@e-mail.com 06-Nov-99 18:10:18 To: All 06-Nov-99 16:43:23 Subj: Re: WarpCenter (How to move an object between Trays) From: "Stephen Eickhoff (remove the - to reply)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------28751EA8BE222B9F02D6E1BF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Patrick wrote: > I've done it before, but now I can't remember what I did. > I thought I had to click Mouse button 2 on the Warpcenter to bring it up > in details view, but now this option is not listed. > > Sorry, if this is the wrong newsgroup for this post. Well, I suppose you could hold down shift and drag the icon from the warpcenter, switch to the destination tray, and drag it back. ---------------------------------- Stephen Eickhoff Havertown, PA ---------------------------------- --------------28751EA8BE222B9F02D6E1BF Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="operagost.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Stephen Eickhoff (remove the - to reply) Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="operagost.vcf" begin:vcard n:Eickhoff;Stephen tel;work:610-341-8571 x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:Johnson Matthey, CSD NA;Information Technology adr:;;456 Devon Park Drive;wayne;PA;19087; version:2.1 email;internet:operagost@email.com title:PC Support Analyst end:vcard --------------28751EA8BE222B9F02D6E1BF-- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: operagost@e-mail.com 06-Nov-99 18:13:18 To: All 06-Nov-99 16:43:23 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: "Stephen Eickhoff (remove the - to reply)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------B0DD1C7DB24C8C68B34E98A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Feel your hatred! Soon your journey to the dark side will be complete! Oh, I see I'm a bit late! "David H. McCoy" wrote: > In article , dtander@agt.net says... > >On Fri, 5 Nov 1999 11:46:27, Bob Germer > >wrote: > > > >> For some time I have had a watch killing all incoming messages from > >> McCoy.I see from many replies that he is still spreading lies here on > >> behalf of MicroSlop. > >> > >> For those who don't know, this is a very, very disturbed individual who > >> needs to be locked in a padded cell and forcefed the medications he > >> refuses to take. Until then, I suggest you apply a kill filter to keep him > >> from his wasteful activities. > > > >I think we can all make up our own minds on this one, Bob... > > > >The former Ominor does have a few worthwhile things to say, although I > >remain mystified why he bothers to hang about OS/2 newsgroups when he > >has obviously decided beyond any shadow of doubt that WinNT is the way > >of the future... > > > >David T. Anderson > >Calgary, Alberta > > > > I don't recall saying that WinNT is the way of the future. As for posting, why > not? I don't force anyone to read what I have to type? > > However, I would enjoy reading about the lies I am spreading. That would be > interesting. > -- > --------------------------------------- > David H. McCoy > dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com > --------------------------------------- -- ---------------------------------- Stephen Eickhoff Havertown, PA ---------------------------------- --------------B0DD1C7DB24C8C68B34E98A0 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="operagost.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Stephen Eickhoff (remove the - to reply) Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="operagost.vcf" begin:vcard n:Eickhoff;Stephen tel;work:610-341-8571 x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:Johnson Matthey, CSD NA;Information Technology adr:;;456 Devon Park Drive;wayne;PA;19087; version:2.1 email;internet:operagost@email.com title:PC Support Analyst end:vcard --------------B0DD1C7DB24C8C68B34E98A0-- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lifedata@xxvol.com 06-Nov-99 13:19:06 To: All 06-Nov-99 16:43:23 Subj: HTML stripper? From: lifedata@xxvol.com I once has a program that removed the HTML codes from a text document. I could drag HTMLs onto its icon on my desktop and it would place the text file in a directory. The name of the EXE was UNHTML. But I have an HTML.EXE that seems to be purely command line driven. Does anybody know if there are actually two different programs of this general nature? Jim L Remove XX from address to Email Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lifedata@xxvol.com 06-Nov-99 13:25:03 To: All 06-Nov-99 16:43:23 Subj: Re: WarpCenter (How to move an object between Trays) From: lifedata@xxvol.com "Stephen Eickhoff (remove the - to reply)" said: >> I've done it before, but now I can't remember what I did. >> I thought I had to click Mouse button 2 on the Warpcenter to bring it up >> in details view, but now this option is not listed. >> >> Sorry, if this is the wrong newsgroup for this post. >Well, I suppose you could hold down shift and drag the icon from the >warpcenter, switch to the destination tray, and drag it back. Assuming you mean to drag it to the desktop and back, that moves going to the desktop, but it copies going back again. Jim L Remove XX from address to Email Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: postmaster@[127.0.0.1] 06-Nov-99 12:40:28 To: All 06-Nov-99 16:43:23 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: postmaster@[127.0.0.1] In <38237AD7.6A0EA5C@hotmail.com>, on 11/05/99 at 06:48 PM, Robert Dohrenburg said: >schiz-o-phre-ni-a: >1. Any of a group of phychotic disorders usually characterized by >withdrawl from reality, illogical patterns of thinking, delusions and >halucinations and accompained in varying degrees by other emotional, >behavioral, or intellectual disturbances. Schizophrenia, often associated >with dopamine imbalances in the brain and defects of the frontal lobe, may >have an underlaying genetic cause. >2. A condition that results from the coexistence of disparate or >antagonistic qualities, identities, or activities: the schizophrenia of >the double espionage agent. I think this is a bit of a reach and a bit inappropriate. -- GK FrodoJRR at Interaccess dot com OS/2 Version 4.00 FixPack 12 There are 33 Processes with 130 Threads. This machine's uptime is 10d 19h 31m 13s 929ms. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net 06-Nov-99 17:20:25 To: All 06-Nov-99 16:43:23 Subj: Re: Attach PMMail to Netscape? From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) On Fri, 5 Nov 1999 12:03:25, "Jan Hartman" wrote: > Hi! > > Is it possible to make Netscape start PMMail when I > click on a "mailto:" field? As it is now, I cannot acces > my addressbok in PMMail, and it is inconvenient. > > / Jan > Jan Hartman > Filosofiska institutionen/Department of Philosophy > Lunds Universitet/Lund University > Kungshuset, Lundag†rd +46-(0)46 2223253 > S-222 22 Lund fax +46-(0)46 2224424 > Sweden > E-mail: Jan.Hartman@fil.lu.se > > Check out: http://www.os2bbs.com/os2news/Communicator.html There is a tip there that tells you how to convert the PMMail address book to Netscape. This may not be a "perfect" solution, but it should accomplish what you want. Hope this helps... ****************************** From the PC of Doug Bissett doug.bissett at attglobal.net The " at " must be changed to "@" ****************************** --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: thomas@billert.de 06-Nov-99 12:16:18 To: All 06-Nov-99 16:43:23 Subj: Re: About Tool Pride From: thomas@billert.de (Thomas Billert) Hi Pete, On 1 Nov 1999 23:59:13 GMT, Pete wrote in comp.os.os2.apps: [nicely said stuff snipped] > Best of all, when I decide to chat (mIRC for win3.1) I can gloat when >people type "be right back, I gotta reboot." > have you ever tried OpenChat/2 with GemZ? Or PMBitchX? Great IRC clients for OS/2! best regards, Billy. -- Thomas Billert using OS/2 Warp 4 * OS/2-Usergroup Jena und Umgebung: thomas@billert.de * http://www.uni-jena.de/ http://www.billert.de * ~c5thbi/os2jena.html PGP key available on my website --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: operagost@e-mail.com 06-Nov-99 17:37:25 To: All 06-Nov-99 16:43:23 Subj: Re: Need new tape backup From: "Stephen Eickhoff (remove the - to reply)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------A4DCB7A443A83DE1C6998BBF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Camilla Cracchiolo (Camilla Cracchiolo, R.N.)" wrote: > I have to get a new tape drive. I've got a HP Traven T-3000. > > I'd like to get away from HP products altogether. They have great > tech support, but I suspect that's because their products die so > often. (Long history of failures here). > > I'm considering a Seagate SCSI 8 Gig backup. Anyone here have > experience with this drive? Also, I'm currently using Backmaster. > Will it support this tape drive or do I have to get BackAgain/2? > > Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the > newsgroup. I have the ST8000N and use it with Novaback. It works great, I usually get about 38MB/min with it. You MUST get a cleaner kit, though, and use it every few backups. I let my drive get dirty and had to use three swabs on it just to do a full restore. Backmaster 2 should support the drive, but I dumped them a while ago because the program was so slow. Novaback is nice because they include Windows and OS/2 versions in the same box. -- ---------------------------------- Stephen Eickhoff Havertown, PA ---------------------------------- --------------A4DCB7A443A83DE1C6998BBF Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="operagost.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Stephen Eickhoff (remove the - to reply) Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="operagost.vcf" begin:vcard n:Eickhoff;Stephen tel;work:610-341-8571 x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:Johnson Matthey, CSD NA;Information Technology adr:;;456 Devon Park Drive;wayne;PA;19087; version:2.1 email;internet:operagost@email.com title:PC Support Analyst end:vcard --------------A4DCB7A443A83DE1C6998BBF-- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: mckinnis@attglobal.net 06-Nov-99 10:33:27 To: All 06-Nov-99 16:43:23 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: Chuck McKinnis And now back to our normal flaming about os2.apps, please -- Chuck McKinnis Senior Systems Engineer Denver Solutions Group, Inc. IBM Business Partner IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired) --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Denver Solutions Group (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jules@goes.com 06-Nov-99 12:41:28 To: All 06-Nov-99 16:43:23 Subj: Re: Uninstalling old Netscapes From: jules@goes.com (Jules Greenstein) In message - "Doug Darrow" writes: :> :>On 4 Nov 1999 17:20:54 EDT, Jules Greenstein wrote: :> :>> I now have three versions of Netscape (2.02, 4.04, and 4.61) on my :>>system (Warp4 Fixpak 11). They all work OK, but I am happy with 4.61 and :>>would like to delete the 2.02 and 4.04 versions. :>> :>> What's the best way to go about it? I don't want to lose my mail and :>>bookmark folders (currently in the 4.04 directory). :>> :>> Any tips or experiences will be appreciated... :>> :>You'll note that the personal files (bookmarks, history, etc.) are all :>located in the /USERS/YourUserName/ subdirectory in 4.04. NSC 4.61 uses :>them where thay are already located, by default. Just drag a copy of :>the /USERS/ subdirectory tree into the same location in the 4.61 :>directory. (You DID install 4.61 into a separate directory as :>instructed to in the README, didn't you?) Then (to be on the safe :>side) rename your 4.04 directory so that 4.61 can't find it. When you :>next start 4.61 you get an error msg, something to the effect that NS :>can't find the default user directory, do you want to recreate it? Say :>YES and it will update the .ini files to use the info in the new /USER/ :>and everything will be exactally as before. You can then delete the :>4.04 and 2.02 dir trees completely. And don't forget to remove the :>respective entries from config.sys. :> :> Thanks, Doug. I followed the procedure you suggested and have had no problems. I appreciate your taking the time to respond. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Online Electronic Services (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: letoured@nospam.net 06-Nov-99 12:54:00 To: All 06-Nov-99 16:43:23 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: letoured@nospam.net In , on 11/06/99 at 12:40 AM, David H. McCoy said: >I don't recall saying that WinNT is the way of the future. As for >posting, why not? I don't force anyone to read what I have to type? >However, I would enjoy reading about the lies I am spreading. That would >be interesting. Why don't you just stop cluttering this new group! _____________ Ed Letourneau --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rdohrenburg@hotmail.com 06-Nov-99 13:25:09 To: All 06-Nov-99 16:43:23 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: Robert Dohrenburg postmaster@[127.0.0.1] wrote: > > In <38237AD7.6A0EA5C@hotmail.com>, on 11/05/99 > at 06:48 PM, Robert Dohrenburg said: > > >schiz-o-phre-ni-a: > >1. Any of a group of phychotic disorders usually characterized by > >withdrawl from reality, illogical patterns of thinking, delusions and > >halucinations and accompained in varying degrees by other emotional, > >behavioral, or intellectual disturbances. Schizophrenia, often associated > >with dopamine imbalances in the brain and defects of the frontal lobe, may > >have an underlaying genetic cause. > > >2. A condition that results from the coexistence of disparate or > >antagonistic qualities, identities, or activities: the schizophrenia of > >the double espionage agent. > > I think this is a bit of a reach and a bit inappropriate. > I just posted the definition from the dictonary. I took care not to make any additional comments. Robert, --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: EarthLink Network, Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nick@secant.com 06-Nov-99 15:02:14 To: All 06-Nov-99 16:43:23 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: Nick Knight In , on 11/05/99 at 03:37 PM, "/2 User" said: >>[Now, see, if ProNews came back alive we could get one more filter field, >>to allow us to block any article containing one of the unspeakable strings >>anywhere in the body.] >Now you just gave McCoy some bait to bash OS/2 for lack of application >support;-) Nah, MR/2 can KILL on text (or complex set of text) contained anywhere in an article, so there is at least one way, within OS/2, to do this :) No, I'm not trying to participate in this thread! Just testing on a REXX-related filter problem. Nick -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Nick Knight http://nick.secant.com Senior Software Engineer Secant Technologies, Inc. http://www.secant.com ----------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: kapeka@wild-ki.netzservice.de 06-Nov-99 07:10:27 To: All 06-Nov-99 16:43:23 Subj: Re: OS/2 Application Gripes From: kapeka@wild-ki.netzservice.de (K.-P. Kirchdoerfer) On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 20:53:19 -0500, David H. McCoy >wrote: >Ominor was a joke and clearly meant more to you guys than to me. The same joke as David McCoy nowadays? If Ominor's MS bashing was a joke, and the McCoy's OS/2 bashing is a joke, please choose the appropriate newsgroups. I avoid these groups, as a humourless person I am. Why do I still see messages in groups like *.apps, where they don't belong to? Ok, slrn is scoring you with -9999; no joke. kp --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jkross@TIRED_OF_SPAM@oxford.net 06-Nov-99 21:09:28 To: All 06-Nov-99 16:43:23 Subj: Re: Quicken 98 under os/2 From: jkross@TIRED_OF_SPAM@oxford.net (John Ross) In message <38238caf$6$nynaurff$mr2ice@news> - alan@min.net.notspam writes: :> :>In , on 11/05/99 :> at 01:27 AM, lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) said: :>>> :>>> Which ETC should be my ETC directory, \tcpip\dos\etc or \mptn\etc? I keep :>>> seeing different recommendations. :> :>>The SET ETC=\mptn\etc command is for CONFIG.SYS :>>and applies to OS/2 applications. :> :>>The SET ETC=\TCPIP\DOS\ETC is for AUTOEXEC.BAT :>>and applies to DOS and WINOS2 applications. In my system SET ETC=C:\MPTN\ETC is the same in the autoexec.bat and config.sys. but note: if you have SET ETC=C:\MPTN\ETC in one and SET ETC= C:\MPTN\ETC in the other it will not work. Took me the longest time to see the error. This is on a Warp4 system. >This makes sense! Thanks. Let's hope it solves my problems. :> :>Where does winsock.dll belong, in \tcpip\dos\etc? I know there should be :>only one one copy, and it should be the one the came with Warp. Anywhere in a defined path in your autoexec.bat but C:\TCPIP\dos\bin is common place to find it. :> :> :>--------------------------------------------------------------------- :> :> *** Please remove .notspam from my address to reply via e-mail. *** :> :> Nerve Center BBS (Fidonet 1:261/1000) 410-655-4708 :> :> Posted by Alan Hess using registered MR/2 ICE Newsreader #564 :> :>--------------------------------------------------------------------- :> -john ross http://www.oxford.net/~jkross Remove "@I_hate_spam" from address to reply.... -- "Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea -- massive, difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind-boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it."--spaf@cs.purdue.edu (1992) --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Organization of Irate People (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: forgitaboutit@fake.com 06-Nov-99 17:02:02 To: All 06-Nov-99 20:02:24 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: David H. McCoy In article <38246b38$1$yrgbherq$mr2ice@news.sover.net>, letoured@nospam.net says... >In , on 11/06/99 > at 12:40 AM, David H. McCoy said: > >>I don't recall saying that WinNT is the way of the future. As for >>posting, why not? I don't force anyone to read what I have to type? > >>However, I would enjoy reading about the lies I am spreading. That would >>be interesting. > >Why don't you just stop cluttering this new group! > >_____________ >Ed Letourneau > > Why don't you use a filter and spare yourself some grief? -- --------------------------------------- David H. McCoy dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com --------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: OminorTech (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: forgitaboutit@fake.com 06-Nov-99 17:01:21 To: All 06-Nov-99 20:02:24 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: David H. McCoy In article , nospam_evr@spam.net says... >On Sat, 6 Nov 1999 00:40:13 -0500, David H. McCoy wrote: > >>I don't recall saying that WinNT is the way of the future. As for posting, why >>not? I don't force anyone to read what I have to type? > >$eem$ to be the ways for your future, Bill want$ you to dig deeper in your >pocket$. No one named Bill has made any such requests of me. BTW, do you not have a 's' on your keyboard? -- --------------------------------------- David H. McCoy dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com --------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: OminorTech (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: forgitaboutit@fake.com 06-Nov-99 17:02:17 To: All 06-Nov-99 20:02:24 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: David H. McCoy In article <38246F04.A5BB7AD6@e-mail.com>, operagost@e-mail.com says... >Feel your hatred! Soon your journey to the dark side will be complete! > >Oh, I see I'm a bit late! > What hatred? -- --------------------------------------- David H. McCoy dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com --------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: OminorTech (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: billko@postoffice.worldnet.att.net 06-Nov-99 16:44:23 To: All 06-Nov-99 20:02:24 Subj: Re: NS 4.61 and RAM Disk cache From: "Billy Ko" On Mon, 01 Nov 1999 03:21:20 GMT, John Thompson wrote: :>In <7vi5gi$6n7$4@news.ox.ac.uk>, engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk (Ian Johnston) writes: :> :>>As suggested here, I tried putting my NS disk cache on a RAM disk. :> :>But why? Why not just set your memory cache value higher? :> :>-John (John.Thompson@attglobal.net) :> I was gonna say the same thing. A RAMDisk just eats up your available memory. Bill Team OS/2 ----- OS/2 - If you want "productivity" to be more than a few four-letter words. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: AT&T WorldNet Services (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: forgitaboutit@fake.com 06-Nov-99 17:06:03 To: All 06-Nov-99 20:02:24 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: David H. McCoy In article , nospam_evr@spam.net says... >On Sat, 06 Nov 1999 11:21:47 -0500 (EST), /2 User wrote: > >Hey David, we are already at our 3rd (OS/2 will never see) Netscape release >and Scietech is working on display drivers for us. So go put that in your >pipe and smoke it. > > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >"I tend to stay away from the Advocacy groups to avoid the WindTrolls" >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Are you kidding? Both of us by a Matrox G400 or TNT2. We both install it, only mine actually works, out of the box and as advertised. You have to wait for Scitech, then shell out even more money just to get partial functionality, but you are claiming that 'Bill want$' me to dig deeper in my pocket? It is to laugh. -- --------------------------------------- David H. McCoy dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com --------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: OminorTech (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: forgitaboutit@fake.com 06-Nov-99 17:07:03 To: All 06-Nov-99 20:02:24 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: David H. McCoy In article <801fdl$9t4$1@panix.com>, jbrock@panix.com says... >In article , >/2 User wrote: >>On Fri, 05 Nov 1999 15:52:16 GMT, David T. Anderson wrote: > >>>The former Ominor does have a few worthwhile things to say, although I >>>remain mystified why he bothers to hang about OS/2 newsgroups when he >>>has obviously decided beyond any shadow of doubt that WinNT is the way >>>of the future... > >>It is very strange that he was one of the biggest advocates of OS/2 and the >>biggest basher of microcrap, now he turned 180 degrees. I wonder if he used >>to do the same in MS NGs back in his OS/2 utopia days? > >I found McCoy's "Ominor" shtick singularly unimpressive, and I said so >at the time. Given that he has spent *far* more time bashing OS/2 than >he ever spent advocating it, maybe that was his plan from the start! > You've got it! Wow! How'd you guess? -- --------------------------------------- David H. McCoy dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com --------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: OminorTech (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: forgitaboutit@fake.com 06-Nov-99 17:07:14 To: All 06-Nov-99 20:02:24 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: David H. McCoy In article , nospam_evr@spam.net says... >On 6 Nov 1999 09:53:41 -0500, John Brock wrote: > >>>It is very strange that he was one of the biggest advocates of OS/2 and the >>>biggest basher of microcrap, now he turned 180 degrees. I wonder if he used >>>to do the same in MS NGs back in his OS/2 utopia days? >> >>I found McCoy's "Ominor" shtick singularly unimpressive, and I said so >>at the time. Given that he has spent *far* more time bashing OS/2 than >>he ever spent advocating it, maybe that was his plan from the start! > >Maybe he has always secretly admired Bill Gates;-) > > He's having dinner with me right now. -- --------------------------------------- David H. McCoy dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com --------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: OminorTech (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: forgitaboutit@fake.com 06-Nov-99 17:09:20 To: All 06-Nov-99 20:02:24 Subj: Re: OS/2 Application Gripes From: David H. McCoy In article , kapeka@wild- ki.netzservice.de says... >On Tue, 2 Nov 1999 20:53:19 -0500, David H. McCoy >>wrote: >>Ominor was a joke and clearly meant more to you guys than to me. > >The same joke as David McCoy nowadays? Don't flatter yourself. Your opinion of me, good or ill doesn't matter. >If Ominor's MS bashing was a joke, and the McCoy's OS/2 bashing is a joke, >please choose the appropriate newsgroups. >I avoid these groups, as a humourless person I am. >Why do I still see messages in groups like *.apps, where they don't belong to? >Ok, slrn is scoring you with -9999; no joke. Great! Plonk! >kp > -- --------------------------------------- David H. McCoy dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com --------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: OminorTech (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: sma.spam-not@rtd.com 06-Nov-99 21:53:15 To: All 06-Nov-99 20:02:24 Subj: Re: Need new tape backup From: James Moe Steve Snyder wrote: > > > I too have a ST8000N which I use with Seagate's Backup Exec. > You do? I thought Seagate dropped os/2 support. The STT8000N came out long after they stopped updating their os/2 program. -- sma at rtd dot com Remove ".spam-not" for email --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Sohnen-Moe Associates, Inc (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jmprice@calweb.com 06-Nov-99 13:52:04 To: All 06-Nov-99 20:02:24 Subj: Re: AIM for Java - OS/2 From: John M Price PhD In comp.os.os2.apps article <38243ef5_1@news.calweb.com> John M Price PhD wrote: : In comp.os.os2.apps article Khairil Yusof wrote: : : On Sat, 6 Nov 1999 04:24:29, John M Price PhD wrote: : :> Well, I installed it. It continually 'times out'. Thinking it is teh : :> connection, I tried the version with Netscape for Win98 - no problem. : : If you don't have any problems using telnet to reach other sites, try putting in : : port 23 in the settings. : On th elogin.oscar, replacing 5190, I can't even get authorized. That seems like a real network error. It does seem to work better at port 23 now. Thanks! : -- : John M. Price, PhD jmprice@calweb.com : Life: Chemistry, but with feeling! | PGP Key on request or FTP! : Email responses to my Usenet articles will be posted at my discretion. : Comoderator: sci.psychology.psychotherapy.moderated Atheist# 683 : Syndicate Section III - Number 1 : Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction : of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisoned; yet, we : have not advanced one inch toward uniformity. What has been the effect : of coercion? To make one half the world fools, and the other half : hypocrites. To support roguery and error all over the earth. : - Thomas Jefferson -- John M. Price, PhD jmprice@calweb.com Life: Chemistry, but with feeling! | PGP Key on request or FTP! Email responses to my Usenet articles will be posted at my discretion. Comoderator: sci.psychology.psychotherapy.moderated Atheist# 683 Syndicate Section III - Number 1 "There is no goal [to natural selection]. There is indeed a result, but it is unplanned, and simply takes advantage of the extant phenotypes. It utilizes what by some is called 'pre-adaptation', the existence of a phenotypic and correspondingly genotypic subgroup of individuals which, when looked at post hoc, had those traits which survived a specifc change in the selective pressures." - John M Price, PhD (On SKEPTIC) --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: his very own desk! (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: wsrue@ATTGlobal.net 06-Nov-99 17:07:19 To: All 06-Nov-99 20:02:24 Subj: PC DOS 7 on Bootmanager From: "Walter S. Rue" The User's Guide says that PC DOS must be installed on C:, implying that I would have to reinstall OS/2 on some other partition first. Is there some way I can set the (CD) install to use, say, H: instead? I assume that the Bootmanager hookup would be no problem in any case. Thanks in advance. -Walter --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk 06-Nov-99 22:47:19 To: All 06-Nov-99 20:02:24 Subj: Re: Quicken 98 under os/2 From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak) In <38239CDC.BA3A27C@linkline.com>, "Graham C. Norris" writes: >John Poltorak wrote: >> Can someone explain the point of having %ETC% using different directories >> under OS/2 and DOS? I'd much rather have a single hosts file which is used >> from all environments. > >It's quite likely because ETC doesn't always just contain a couple of >tables of data, especially on *nix. Yes, on Unix systems there lots of file stored in ETC. But it doesn't matter how many files are there, as long as the ones required by particular applications are there. >Also, if the DOS support is less >capable than the OS/2 support, some of the files you don't change may >need to be different. Which files might need to be different? > Finally, if you have dual boot you may actually >want a separate DOS ETC directory for TCP/IP under DOS (the OS/2 one >might be on HPFS). If you have dual boot, the OS/2 one will not be on HPFS. > I'll agree it's a pain! > >Graham. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Legend Internet Ltd (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp 07-Nov-99 07:53:23 To: All 06-Nov-99 21:41:10 Subj: Re: GRADD: was Re: warp 3 & 4 install From: "Wayne Bickell" On 6 Nov 1999 11:30:47 GMT, Dominique Pivard wrote: :>Thanks for the detailed explanation of the advantages offered by the :>GRADD drivers over the native Matrox drivers. I have a Matrox Mystique :>4MB video adapter and a Hauppauge TV card. I wished I could get either :>the GRADD or the SDD drivers to work on my system, but neither do. The :>2.31.100 Matrox drivers work fine otherwise, but the quality of the :>display is poor in the TV picture (vertical stripes) and CPU usage is :>indeed high (I have a lowly Cyrix P166+). Since GRADD 0.80 and SDD :>beta 9 wouldn't install, I'm now waiting for the next versions ... There was a problem with the disk image of GRADD 0.80. It forgot to put a label on the disk. I believe you should label it GRADD 1. It installs just fine here but when I boot up it stops just before the desktop loads with a flashing cursor in the left-hand corner. SDD 9 installed and worked but I'm too stupid to figure out how to set the refresh rates and centre the screen. I'm running a Matrox G400 16Mb. Cheers Wayne ****************************************************** Wayne Bickell Tokyo, Japan wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp ****************************************************** Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2 Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK) + FixPak 9 ****************************************************** --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: AT&T Internet Service (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-boch... 07-Nov-99 00:20:00 To: All 06-Nov-99 21:41:10 Subj: Re: Can OS/2 users grow up and think like Linux users? Message sender: christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-bochum.de From: Christian Hennecke fgearhart@voyager.net schrieb: > Really? I've been running OD1.5 since it came out, and kinda > suspected it caused some instability, but was never certain. > Especially since I couldn't directly attribute any 'hangs' to OD. > Does it really cause instability problems? Is it better in OD2.0? > > Fritz Do yourself a favor and deregister OD's TSEnhancedFolder class. You'll loose almost only features that didn't work right anyway. I did this and my system got a lot more stable. You can achieve it by directly deregistering the class (i.e. with XFolder's WPS classes notebook page) or by using the softwareware installer and selecting "Enhanced Folders" for deinstall. Christian Hennecke -- Keep passing the open windows! ("The Hotel New Hampshire", John Irving) --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: not organized (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net 06-Nov-99 16:56:05 To: All 06-Nov-99 21:41:10 Subj: Re: Linkwiz From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum) dave@david-lister.co.uk wrote: >Hi, > >Does anyone have experience of Linkwiz? > >I have used it regularly since I went to OS/2 several years ago now and >rely on it entirely since I transfer files between my desktop & notebook >every day. Generally, I find it OK, but it has problems - the main one >being PCX themselves! Their support is, in my experience, non-existant. > >Anyway, the reason for my query now is that I have version 2.52 which >dates back to 1996 and I don't think that it is Y2K compliant. Lately >I've tried to go to PCX's website and can't connect. Does anyone know if >they are still in business?? If not, does anyone have experience of a >good alternative product? I also used Linkright for a while but that died >too! > >Dave Lister >------------------------------------------------------------- I might suggest switching to Jan van Wijk's LPT utility. While it is VIO only, it lends itself to automation via scripts and batchfiles. Check out Hobbes -- it should be at ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/apps/comm/lpt207.zip -- Ray Tennenbaum '99 YZF-R6 readme@ http://www.ray-field.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: AT&T WorldNet Services (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net 06-Nov-99 16:52:13 To: All 06-Nov-99 21:41:10 Subj: Re: AIM for Java - OS/2 From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum) John M Price PhD wrote: >In comp.os.os2.apps article Khairil Yusof wrote: >: On Sat, 6 Nov 1999 04:24:29, John M Price PhD wrote: > >:> Well, I installed it. It continually 'times out'. Thinking it is teh >:> connection, I tried the version with Netscape for Win98 - no problem. > >: If you don't have any problems using telnet to reach other sites, try putting in >: port 23 in the settings. > >On th elogin.oscar, replacing 5190, I can't even get authorized. > > >-- >John M. Price, PhD jmprice@calweb.com >Life: Chemistry, but with feeling! | PGP Key on request or FTP! > Email responses to my Usenet articles will be posted at my discretion. >Comoderator: sci.psychology.psychotherapy.moderated Atheist# 683 > Syndicate Section III - Number 1 > >Millions of innocent men, women, and children, since the introduction >of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, imprisoned; yet, we >have not advanced one inch toward uniformity. What has been the effect >of coercion? To make one half the world fools, and the other half >hypocrites. To support roguery and error all over the earth. > - Thomas Jefferson > John -- or Thomas -- You don't indicate which version of AIM/Java you're trying to install. IAC there was an extended discussion about these issues about a month or two ago. Fwiw version 1.0.13 works here. Check out Deja and see what you come up with. -- Ray Tennenbaum '99 YZF-R6 readme@ http://www.ray-field.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: AT&T WorldNet Services (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net 06-Nov-99 17:42:00 To: All 06-Nov-99 21:41:10 Subj: Re: Can OS/2 users grow up and think like Linux users? From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum) fgearhart@voyager.net wrote: >On Sat, 22 Jan 2000 14:33:19, raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net >(Raphael Tennenbaum) wrote: > >> jldasch@3-cities.com (John L. Daschbach) wrote: >> >> >schnip> >> > >> > Perspective: >> > OS/2 (with Object Desktop) still has one of the best user >> >interfaces going. Much of this is because of the WPS and SOME. >> >Nothing I have used or read about approaches OS/2 in terms of desktop >> >power *and* configurability. However this comes at a price, and that >> >price is stability. I have had OS/2 up for weeks, but at times, >> >especially when using *real* applications, the WPS gets totally >> >wacked, windows don't repaint, objects partially freeze on the screen, >> >the system won't respond to keyboard or mouse. This is typically when >> >using the combination of Navigator and a Lotus product (WordPro, 123, >> >Approach, Freelance). The only solution is a hard reboot. Other >> >times programs have problems and there is no way to kill them, at >> >least using the tools I have. In other words, OS/2 when it works is >> >great, when it doesn't it's hell. >> > >> >more schnip> >> > >> > Thoughts? >> > >> >-John >> >> >> Uh huh. 1) Uninstall OD, which is probably 95% of what's >> kerflooey on your system. Replace with freeware Xfolder. >> 2) Apply the latest fix for Netscape 4.04. 3) Reinstall >> your video drivers, especially if there's newer ones >> available for your card. 4) Clean up your INI files with >> Henk Kelder's wptools. >> >> -Ray >> >> -- >> >> Ray Tennenbaum '99 YZF-R6 >> readme@ http://www.ray-field.com > >Really? I've been running OD1.5 since it came out, and kinda >suspected it caused some instability, but was never certain. >Especially since I couldn't directly attribute any 'hangs' to OD. >Does it really cause instability problems? Is it better in OD2.0? To be honest, I can't tell you, since I heard so many horror stories I never bothered with either. My basic feeling is that there's freeware or reasonably-priced shareware to do everything (or practically everything) that OD does. To start with, have a look at Xfolder ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/util/wps/xfld085.zip -- Ray Tennenbaum '99 YZF-R6 readme@ http://www.ray-field.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: AT&T WorldNet Services (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nospam_evr@spam.net 06-Nov-99 19:32:18 To: All 06-Nov-99 21:41:10 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: "/2 User" On Sat, 6 Nov 1999 17:06:06 -0500, David H. McCoy wrote: >Are you kidding? Both of us by a Matrox G400 or TNT2. We both install it, only >mine actually works, out of the box and as advertised. On my box, windoze95 and 98 always had problems with my G200, I ended up using totally unaccelerated setting to make it partially stable (as if windows can even be made that). OS/2 has never had a problem with any driver in the same damn box. But the main point is Scietech is developing for the OS that would never have Netscape;-) One thing I know it will never have, that wretched Internet Exploder. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "I tend to stay away from the Advocacy groups to avoid the WindTrolls" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: d.s.darrow@nvinet.com 06-Nov-99 17:20:14 To: All 07-Nov-99 03:28:17 Subj: Re: HTML stripper? From: "Doug Darrow" On Sat, 06 Nov 1999 13:19:12 -0500, lifedata@xxvol.com wrote: >The name of the EXE was UNHTML. But I have an HTML.EXE that seems to be purely >command line driven. Does anybody know if there are actually two different >programs of this general nature? There's probably more like 20 or 30 different programs of this general and SPECIFIC nature. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: swsnyder@home.com 07-Nov-99 02:07:16 To: All 07-Nov-99 03:28:17 Subj: Re: Need new tape backup From: "Steve Snyder" On Sat, 06 Nov 1999 21:53:30 GMT, James Moe wrote: >Steve Snyder wrote: >> >> >> I too have a ST8000N which I use with Seagate's Backup Exec. >> > You do? I thought Seagate dropped os/2 support. The STT8000N came >out long after they stopped updating their os/2 program. Maybe the STT8000N is compatible with some drive that is officially supported. In any case, Seagate Backup Exec v3.0 (file dates are 10/31/96) *does* work with that tape drive. ***** Steve Snyder ***** --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: @Home Network (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com 06-Nov-99 18:20:02 To: All 07-Nov-99 03:28:17 Subj: Re: Quicken 98 under os/2 From: "Graham C. Norris" John Poltorak wrote: > >Also, if the DOS support is less > >capable than the OS/2 support, some of the files you don't change may > >need to be different. > > Which files might need to be different? Well, I don't know, I didn't write this stuff! > > Finally, if you have dual boot you may actually > >want a separate DOS ETC directory for TCP/IP under DOS (the OS/2 one > >might be on HPFS). > > If you have dual boot, the OS/2 one will not be on HPFS. You can stick your ETC directory where-ever you like, you can install TCP/IP on HPFS in a dual boot environment. Graham. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid 07-Nov-99 01:32:04 To: All 07-Nov-99 03:28:17 Subj: Re: PC DOS 7 on Bootmanager From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid (John Thompson) In <3824A6AA.33E9290E@ATTGlobal.net>, "Walter S. Rue" writes: >The User's Guide says that PC DOS must be installed on C:, implying that >I would have to reinstall OS/2 on some other partition first. > >Is there some way I can set the (CD) install to use, say, H: instead? I >assume that the Bootmanager hookup would be no problem in any case. If you select the OS/2 "Advanced" installation you will be able to install OS/2 on any partition, primary or logical, that the BIOS can see. -John (John.Thompson@attglobal.net) --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: The Crimson Permanent Assurance (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: wsrue@ATTGlobal.net 06-Nov-99 23:00:01 To: All 07-Nov-99 03:28:17 Subj: Re: PC DOS 7 on Bootmanager From: "Walter S. Rue" I wasn't clear. I meant to ask if PC DOS could possibly be installed in a partition that is not C: ? I doubt I will install it at all if OS/2 must be reinstalled (in another partition) just to make room for it. However, thanks for the response. John Thompson wrote: > > In <3824A6AA.33E9290E@ATTGlobal.net>, "Walter S. Rue" writes: > > >The User's Guide says that PC DOS must be installed on C:, implying that > >I would have to reinstall OS/2 on some other partition first. > > > >Is there some way I can set the (CD) install to use, say, H: instead? I > >assume that the Bootmanager hookup would be no problem in any case. > > If you select the OS/2 "Advanced" installation you will be able > to install OS/2 on any partition, primary or logical, that the > BIOS can see. > > -John (John.Thompson@attglobal.net) --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: postmaster@aol.com 06-Nov-99 20:48:27 To: All 07-Nov-99 03:28:17 Subj: Re: Java for Warp3 ????? From: "Dan Kozisek" Do you know where I can get this? > >The latest Java (JDK 1.1.8 IBM build o118-19990910) works fine here >(Warp 3, FP 42) > --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Thugs for Culture (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: khalsa@attglobal.net 07-Nov-99 00:08:10 To: All 07-Nov-99 03:28:17 Subj: Quicken 98 won't install From: Satnam Singh I get "Wrong Windows version" when I try to install Quicken 98 under Winos2. I'm only interested in running a checkbook, and accounting for credit cards/assets; don't care abount downloading transactions via internet access, etc. I'm running Warp 3 Connect Blue spine fp40. I've noted in an unrelated thread, someone stated Quicken requires latest "MS Video"??? Anyone know if this is true, what it is? Satnam Singh -- To reply delete "deletehere." from return email address --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: debu4335@dpnet.net 07-Nov-99 01:20:21 To: All 07-Nov-99 03:28:17 Subj: Re: Quicken 98 won't install From: Michael DeBusk Satnam Singh wrote: > I get "Wrong Windows version" when I try to install Quicken 98 under > Winos2. I'm only interested in running a checkbook, and accounting for > credit cards/assets; I get the same error, but not when trying to install Quicken98. That went fine for me. I get the error when trying to run WordPerfect 7 suite for Windows 3.1, or when trying to run the version of MSIE that shipped with Quicken98. > don't care abount downloading transactions via internet access, etc. You should. The only way to get updates and bugfixes to Quicken98 is to use MSIE. -- Mike DeBusk ÿ North East, Maryland USA ÿ Team OS/2 Host of the ILink Psychology and OS_Discuss conferences --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: ntr.net Corporation (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: Peter.Weilbacher@T-Online.de 07-Nov-99 10:05:21 To: All 07-Nov-99 05:18:09 Subj: Memory full?? From: Peter.Weilbacher@T-Online.de Hello, I have the problem that at some point OS/2 tells me that it cannot start any programs or modules, because the memory is full. The first thing I notice most of the time is, that I hear the error-tones from DragText and I cannot drag anything. So I though DragText may be responsible, but this time I couldn't connect to any host with Netscape 4.61, it told me "no such domain: www.zdnet.com" (where I wanted to look up about the M$ trial). I have 98 MB in total which are all recognized by OS/2 and this phenomenon seems to take place, when I have about 14 MB free (as MemSize tells me). I also have 71 MB of unused swap-space left. I tried the > 64 MB switch in the BIOS, at first it was disabled (from my 32 MB times where I didn't have these problems ;-) ), but now it is enabled and I still have this problem. Perhaps someone has an idea? Greetings, Peter. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Weilbachers (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: l_luciano@da.mob 07-Nov-99 09:11:02 To: All 07-Nov-99 05:18:09 Subj: Re: PC DOS 7 on Bootmanager From: l_luciano@da.mob (Stan Goodman) 1) If you don't need for the DOS partition to have access to the OS/2 partition, there is a way. If you can put a primary partiton on the same drive, then either one or the other will be active, and neither will even exist as far as the other is concerned. 2) If the OS/2 partition is formatted for HPFS, PC-DOS won't see the OS/2 partition, and it will be C:. On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 04:00:02, "Walter S. Rue" wrote: > I wasn't clear. I meant to ask if PC DOS could possibly be installed in > a partition that is not C: ? I doubt I will install it at all if OS/2 > must be reinstalled (in another partition) just to make room for it. > > However, thanks for the response. > > John Thompson wrote: > > > > In <3824A6AA.33E9290E@ATTGlobal.net>, "Walter S. Rue" writes: > > > > >The User's Guide says that PC DOS must be installed on C:, implying that > > >I would have to reinstall OS/2 on some other partition first. > > > > > >Is there some way I can set the (CD) install to use, say, H: instead? I > > >assume that the Bootmanager hookup would be no problem in any case. > > > > If you select the OS/2 "Advanced" installation you will be able > > to install OS/2 on any partition, primary or logical, that the > > BIOS can see. > > > > -John (John.Thompson@attglobal.net) ------------- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel Spammers are getting smarter; email sent to l_luciano@da.mob will not reach me. Sorry. Send E-mail to: domain: hashkedim dot com, username: stan.  --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Verio (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nospam@sancoatjpsdotnet.void 06-Nov-99 19:14:25 To: All 07-Nov-99 10:20:13 Subj: Re: OS/2 Application Gripes From: nospam@sancoatjpsdotnet.void (Sander Nyman) What version of Smart Suite are you using? The original poster was using version 1.1. There were several fixes that were specific to Approach in version 1.1.1. This upgrade was made freely available months ago. If you have not upgraded, I would recommend doing so. I have not attempted anything terribly complex with Approach, nor have I created any "huge" databases. I have been using it to fill some gaps in software for my business. Version 1.1.1, though still not perfect, has been doing the job very well. Sander Nyman >I've read through a few of the responses and not to be redundant but, as >far as Approach goes, I would agree with the complaints. My system also >locks up and I have experienced problems with queries, that work >perfectly in Windows based Approach versions. I hope IBM will take note >of this, or Lotus!!!. >jwelton@my-deja.com wrote: >> I hate to be negative but I have two very big gripes >> with two important OS/2 applications that make my >> OS/2 life living hell. >> >> First Gripe: Approach with SmartSuite 2.2 v1.1. Now I >> PAID for this program and I expect this program to >> work for me but it continues to fail in the stretch. >> >> I have a large dbase of approximately 3,000 video movies >> and I'm adding all the time. I'm a real video hound and >> record just about everything I come across. I list them >> in categories like classic movies (usually old B&W), hit >> movies, TV Specials, Sports Events, etc. You name it and >> I've probably got it somewhere on the shelf, labeled, >> titled and numbered for easy finding. >> >> My problem with Approach has been trying to print out >> various or special reports. We've set up sort of a video >> club and there are friends who ask for a list of all >> mysteries or sports, etc. Each and every time I try to >> sort the full worksheet of all the records down to just >> particular cateogories Approach freezes up solid on me. >> It will take me days and a lot of luck to get one >> specialized listing printed. >> >> It is very embarrassing because I live in the dorms and >> one of the very few OS/2 users. I'm very proud of OS/2 >> but I die a thousand deaths when a group of college buddies >> come in and ask me if I've got "such and such a movie" and >> why don't you just print out a list so we can pick and choose? >> >> I finally gave up on trying to print out a full listing of >> all movies with SS/2 and turned to the dbase in IBMWorks. >> IBMWorks would not read a dbf4 file but it would read a dbf3. >> From there I was able to print out a full listing of every >> video. It is an awful looking report though and I don't know >> how to sort the records into categories and just print out >> each categorie (if anyone knows email me with the instructions). >> >> That's my complaint with SS/2. I want the Lotus developers to >> get off their damn butts and fix this program so it works >> properly. If I want to sort my dbase then control/hide all >> the unnecessary or unwanted records so I can create a nice >> looking report of special or a group of designated records >> I should be able to do it. I PAID for this DAMN program >> dammit! >> >> Gripe No. 2: >> >> Trying to empty my trash in Netscape 4.6.1. I know I've complained >> about this before and I know the Netscape Team is working on it >> (or has it fixed for the next release of Communicator) but get off >> your duffs and release an update ASAP. I get a lot of spam that >> goes straight to the dumper (trash). If the subject line as the >> letters sex, babe, lottery, casino, etc, I never see it but after >> a while my trash folder is huge. I've tried every possible way >> to empty it hoping it won't crash Netscape or bring my system >> to a halt without fail. If it only crashees Netscape the next >> time I open Communicator there is a tmp file filled with my trash. >> I try to delete that file and Communicator crashes. I start it >> up again and I've got ANOTHER temp file of my temp file trash. >> It's a catch22 and it just keeps building itself. I've got >> tons of hard disk space (now have 20 gig) but it is stupid to >> have an application that won't let me empty my deleted emails >> or an application that doubles my deleted emails if I try to >> delete them. FIX the DAMN thing DAMMIT! >> >> Communicator is free and I do appreciate it but give me a break, >> huh? What good is it if I have to keep uninstalling the program >> and reinstalling the program just to empty my trash? >> >> OS/2 has so many wonderful things going for it that I want the >> (few, i.e., dbase) applications we have to at least work well >> enough to give us what we need. >> >> Sorry if I rambled on. I struggled tonight trying to print out >> a list of horror movies (Halloween in the dorms) and was shown >> up by some weeny across campus using ACCESS and Win95! I've got >> better movies but I can't prove it with a print out! :-( >> >> Jeff --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jmprice@calweb.com 07-Nov-99 02:02:12 To: All 07-Nov-99 10:20:13 Subj: Re: AIM for Java - OS/2 From: John M Price PhD In comp.os.os2.apps article Raphael Tennenbaum wrote: : John -- or Thomas -- : You don't indicate which version of AIM/Java you're trying : to install. IAC there was an extended discussion about : these issues about a month or two ago. Fwiw version 1.0.13 : works here. Check out Deja and see what you come up with. Yes, as I noted, I think there really was a network error, or congestion, going on. I do have 1.0.13, and it works, however it seems that it always needs to have me login twice - the first time shutting down almost immediately - and it fails to resend the registration email. It should not even need to worry about that one, as I am registered for a while now, and had returned the original email. It did have the correct email address as well, so I know it got tat from the oscar machine. -- John M. Price, PhD jmprice@calweb.com Life: Chemistry, but with feeling! | PGP Key on request or FTP! Email responses to my Usenet articles will be posted at my discretion. Comoderator: sci.psychology.psychotherapy.moderated Atheist# 683 Syndicate Section III - Number 1 The essence of wisdom... lies not in what is known but rather in the manner in which that knowledge is held and in how that knowledge is put to use. To be wise is not to know particular facts but to know without excessive confidence or excessive cautiousness. Wisdom is thus not a belief, a value, a set of facts, a corpus of knowledge or information in some specialized area, or a set of special abilities or skills. Wisdom is an attitude taken by persons toward the beliefs, values, knowledge, information, abilities, and skills that are held, a tendency to doubt that these are necessarily true or valid and to doubt that they are an exhaustive set of those things that could be known. - Robert J. Sternberg in "Wisdom" (Cambridge, 1990) --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: his very own desk! (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: mcbrides@erols.com 07-Nov-99 01:01:15 To: All 07-Nov-99 10:20:13 Subj: Re: PC DOS 7 on Bootmanager From: mcbrides@erols.com (Jerry McBride) In article <3824F942.7301CE10@ATTGlobal.net>, "Walter S. Rue" wrote: >I wasn't clear. I meant to ask if PC DOS could possibly be installed in >a partition that is not C: ? I doubt I will install it at all if OS/2 >must be reinstalled (in another partition) just to make room for it. > Sorry, that's not possible. DOS HAS to boot from the C: drive. -- ******************************************************************************* * Sometimes, the BEST things in life really ARE free... * * Get a FREE copy of NetRexx 1.151 for your next java project at: * * * * GET IT NOW! WHILE IT'S STILL FREE! * * * * http://www2.hursley.ibm.com/netrexx * ******************************************************************************* /----------------------------------------\ | From the desktop of: Jerome D. McBride | | mcbrides@erols.com | \----------------------------------------/ -- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: TEAM-NETREXX (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: dmhills@attglobal.net 07-Nov-99 23:23:26 To: All 07-Nov-99 10:20:14 Subj: Re: PC DOS 7 on Bootmanager From: dmhills@attglobal.net (Don Hills) In article <3824F942.7301CE10@ATTGlobal.net>, "Walter S. Rue" wrote: >I wasn't clear. I meant to ask if PC DOS could possibly be installed in >a partition that is not C: ? I doubt I will install it at all if OS/2 >must be reinstalled (in another partition) just to make room for it. PC (or MS) DOS must be installed on the C: partition. You can: - Install OS/2 on a parttion other than C:. - Install DOS and OS/2 in the same partition (requires the partition to be formatted FAT). - Define two primary partitions on the first hard disk and install Boot Manager. -- Don Hills (dmhills at attglobaldotnet) Wellington, New Zealand --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: dmhills@attglobal.net 07-Nov-99 23:15:06 To: All 07-Nov-99 10:20:14 Subj: Re: HTML stripper? From: dmhills@attglobal.net (Don Hills) In article <3824721a$1$yvsrqngn$mr2ice@news.vol.com>, lifedata@xxvol.com wrote: >I once has a program that removed the HTML codes from a text document. I could >drag HTMLs onto its icon on my desktop and it would place the text file in a >directory. You can use your HTML.EXE program for drag'n'drop. I'll assume that the command syntax of HTML.EXE is: HTML infile outfile, for example: D:\PROGRAMS\HTML D:\HTMLFILES\MYFILE.HTML D:\TEXTFILES\MYFILE.TXT 1/. Drag a program object out of the template folder onto the desktop. 2/. On the Program tab, fill in the Path and file name: D:\PROGRAMS\HTML.EXE 3/. In the Parameters field, put: %* D:\TEXTFILES\%**N.TXT For a full description of the various things you can put in the Parameters field, click on the Help at the bottom of the Properties notebook. -- Don Hills (dmhills at attglobaldotnet) Wellington, New Zealand --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: domi@kenavo.NOSPAM.fi 07-Nov-99 11:49:18 To: All 07-Nov-99 10:20:14 Subj: Re: Java for Warp3 ????? From: domi@kenavo.NOSPAM.fi (Dominique Pivard) Yes, I know: ftp://ftp.hursley.ibm.com/pub/java/fixes/os2/11/118/ For some reason, I haven't been able to access it yesterday and today, but Hursley is the official site for Java at IBM. On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 04:48:55, "Dan Kozisek" wrote: > Do you know where I can get this? > > >The latest Java (JDK 1.1.8 IBM build o118-19990910) works fine here > >(Warp 3, FP 42) --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: None!! (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: areese@bestnetpc.com 07-Nov-99 14:58:27 To: All 07-Nov-99 15:15:21 Subj: CD-RW for OS2 From: areese@bestnetpc.com (A. Willard Reese) I'm considering buying a Yamaha 6x4x16 internal SCSI-2 CD-RW kit with an Adaptec PCI SCSI interface card to run on my Warp 4.0, fixpak 11, system. Can anyone tell me their experience with such a setup? How about drivers for OS2? What problems have been encountered, etc? The price is right on this combination but it's no good to me if it won't run in OS2. Thanks for any help, Willard --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Reese Associates (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jhimmel@i-2000.com 07-Nov-99 15:16:12 To: All 07-Nov-99 15:15:21 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: jhimmel@i-2000.com (James Himmelman) On Sat, 6 Nov 1999 22:06:06, David H. McCoy wrote: > In article , > nospam_evr@spam.net says... > >On Sat, 06 Nov 1999 11:21:47 -0500 (EST), /2 User wrote: > > > >Hey David, we are already at our 3rd (OS/2 will never see) Netscape release > >and Scietech is working on display drivers for us. So go put that in your > >pipe and smoke it. > Are you kidding? Both of us by a Matrox G400 or TNT2. We both install it, only > mine actually works, out of the box and as advertised. > > You have to wait for Scitech, then shell out even more money just to get > partial functionality, but you are claiming that 'Bill want$' me to dig deeper > in my pocket? > > It is to laugh. More money for what? Scitech will be free to OS/2 users. > --------------------------------------- > David H. McCoy > dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com > --------------------------------------- [[[ James Himmelman - jhimmel@i-2000.com ]]] --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jhimmel@i-2000.com 07-Nov-99 15:24:16 To: All 07-Nov-99 15:15:21 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: jhimmel@i-2000.com (James Himmelman) On Sat, 6 Nov 1999 22:07:29, David H. McCoy wrote: > In article , > nospam_evr@spam.net says... > >On 6 Nov 1999 09:53:41 -0500, John Brock wrote: > >>>It is very strange that he was one of the biggest advocates of OS/2 and the > >>>biggest basher of microcrap, now he turned 180 degrees. I wonder if he used > >>>to do the same in MS NGs back in his OS/2 utopia days? > >>I found McCoy's "Ominor" shtick singularly unimpressive, and I said so > >>at the time. Given that he has spent *far* more time bashing OS/2 than > >>he ever spent advocating it, maybe that was his plan from the start! > >Maybe he has always secretly admired Bill Gates;-) > He's having dinner with me right now. Still delusional I see. Coming from the guy who thought OS/2 would take over the desktop. Coming from the guy who thought Communicator/2 4.6 would never be released. Your track record shows that you have ZERO insight to this industry, and your delusions show that you are a sad character. Fun to read though. > --------------------------------------- > David H. McCoy > dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com > --------------------------------------- [[[ James Himmelman - jhimmel@i-2000.com ]]] --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid 07-Nov-99 12:59:08 To: All 07-Nov-99 15:15:21 Subj: Re: PC DOS 7 on Bootmanager From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid (John Thompson) In <3824F942.7301CE10@ATTGlobal.net>, "Walter S. Rue" writes: >I wasn't clear. I meant to ask if PC DOS could possibly be installed in >a partition that is not C: ? I doubt I will install it at all if OS/2 >must be reinstalled (in another partition) just to make room for it. IIRC, niether PC- nor MS-DOS will boot from anything but a primary partition, eg C:. I seem to recall that OpenDOS/DR-DOS can boot from a logical partition, though. You can download a free copy from Caldera's web site. -John (John.Thompson@attglobal.net) --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: The Crimson Permanent Assurance (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net 07-Nov-99 16:16:03 To: All 07-Nov-99 15:15:21 Subj: Re: Quicken 98 won't install From: jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net In <38251A3B.4C1E1FF9@dpnet.net>, Michael DeBusk writes: >Satnam Singh wrote: > >> I get "Wrong Windows version" when I try to install Quicken 98 under >> Winos2. I'm only interested in running a checkbook, and accounting for >> credit cards/assets; > >I get the same error, but not when trying to install Quicken98. That >went fine for me. I get the error when trying to run WordPerfect 7 suite >for Windows 3.1, or when trying to run the version of MSIE that shipped >with Quicken98. > >> don't care abount downloading transactions via internet access, etc. > >You should. The only way to get updates and bugfixes to Quicken98 is to >use MSIE. > I have Warp 4 here, and I have several Win 3.1 programs on my system which are running fine, including MS Office 4.1, Word Perfect 6.1, Timeline 6.1, and Quicken 98. I can remember getting those messages once in a while, but was able to eliminat them by tweaking the settings in the settings notebook. Mine are run in a full screen WINOS2 session, and they are all set for enhanced mode. After that, I make sure they have enough memory to run. If they have trouble installing, try to tweak the Program Manager settings for the WINOS2 session before the install. After installing the programs, I have them all set up on individual icons so that they cn be started directly from an OS/2 folder. If I remember corectly, the messages being observed above were MS's way of trying to defeat OS/2 installs in the early days. ----------------------------------------------------------- Fred Springfield for e-mail remove 'xxx' Plymouth, MN ----------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Professional Network Services (pro-ns.net) (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: forgitaboutit@fake.com 07-Nov-99 11:35:23 To: All 07-Nov-99 15:15:21 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: David H. McCoy In article , nospam_evr@spam.net says... >On Sat, 6 Nov 1999 17:06:06 -0500, David H. McCoy wrote: > >>Are you kidding? Both of us by a Matrox G400 or TNT2. We both install it, only >>mine actually works, out of the box and as advertised. > >On my box, windoze95 and 98 always had problems with my G200, I ended up >using totally unaccelerated setting to make it partially stable (as if >windows can even be made that). OS/2 has never had a problem with any driver >in the same damn box. But the main point is Scietech is developing for the OS >that would never have Netscape;-) First, what exactly does that have to do with the G400 or TnT2? Second, I'm not suprised that you have problems with Windows. Most OS/2 users in this group seem to have an almost mystical ability to hose Windows in ways that defy other Windows users. Finally, your main point doesn't seem to address the fact you will have to pay for those drivers when they are released on top of paying for the card. >One thing I know it will never have, that wretched Internet Exploder. IE, IMO, is currently better than Netscape. > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >"I tend to stay away from the Advocacy groups to avoid the WindTrolls" >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > -- --------------------------------------- David H. McCoy dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com --------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: OminorTech (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: forgitaboutit@fake.com 07-Nov-99 11:44:14 To: All 07-Nov-99 15:15:21 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: David H. McCoy In article , jhimmel@i-2000.com says... >On Sat, 6 Nov 1999 22:06:06, David H. McCoy >wrote: > >> In article , >> nospam_evr@spam.net says... >> >On Sat, 06 Nov 1999 11:21:47 -0500 (EST), /2 User wrote: >> > >> >Hey David, we are already at our 3rd (OS/2 will never see) Netscape release >> >and Scietech is working on display drivers for us. So go put that in your >> >pipe and smoke it. > >> Are you kidding? Both of us by a Matrox G400 or TNT2. We both install it, only >> mine actually works, out of the box and as advertised. >> >> You have to wait for Scitech, then shell out even more money just to get >> partial functionality, but you are claiming that 'Bill want$' me to dig deeper >> in my pocket? >> >> It is to laugh. > >More money for what? Scitech will be free to OS/2 users. > >> --------------------------------------- >> David H. McCoy >> dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com >> --------------------------------------- > >[[[ James Himmelman - jhimmel@i-2000.com ]]] > Currently, Scitech is $40 for the OS/2 version. Therefore, I can only imagine that you are talking about the license with IBM. Allow me to address this. From the Scitech press release - http://www.scitechsoft.com/in_press22.html SciTech Display Doctor/se for OS/2 Warp distributed by IBM will include the following features: "GRADD" driver with GUI hardware acceleration Resolutions: 640x480, 800x600, 1024x768, 1280x1024, 1600x1200 Color Depths: 8, 15,16,24 and 32 Bits Per Pixel Refresh rates: 60 - 85Hz refresh Support for many graphics chips. In addition to the features listed above, SciTech Display Doctor Professional for OS/2 Warp sold by SciTech will include: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Support for ultra high resolutions up to 2048x1536 Support for creating new display modes and refresh rates Support for 16:9 display modes Refresh rates of 120Hz+ Future features will include video and 3D acceleration So, in the best case, you will have more cards if Scitech continues to support newer cards which is of course a positive. However, that support will most likely continue to be offered with some lag time after Windows. Furthermore, it is obvious that this support is desperately needed considering that difficulty in finding those older cards that OS/2 still supports. The IBM/Scitech agreement sends a clear message that neither IBM nor hardware vendors are interested in making OS/2 drivers, but this does present a great 'window' of opportunity for Scitech. Finally, again, you will have drivers that are inferior to those that ship with the card and must PAY for a version of Scitech to get those advanced features. -- --------------------------------------- David H. McCoy dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com --------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: OminorTech (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: forgitaboutit@fake.com 07-Nov-99 11:46:29 To: All 07-Nov-99 15:15:21 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: David H. McCoy In article , jhimmel@i-2000.com says... >On Sat, 6 Nov 1999 22:07:29, David H. McCoy >wrote: > >> In article , >> nospam_evr@spam.net says... >> >On 6 Nov 1999 09:53:41 -0500, John Brock wrote: > >> >>>It is very strange that he was one of the biggest advocates of OS/2 and the >> >>>biggest basher of microcrap, now he turned 180 degrees. I wonder if he used >> >>>to do the same in MS NGs back in his OS/2 utopia days? > >> >>I found McCoy's "Ominor" shtick singularly unimpressive, and I said so >> >>at the time. Given that he has spent *far* more time bashing OS/2 than >> >>he ever spent advocating it, maybe that was his plan from the start! > >> >Maybe he has always secretly admired Bill Gates;-) > >> He's having dinner with me right now. > >Still delusional I see. Coming from the guy who thought OS/2 would >take over the desktop. Coming from the guy who thought Communicator/2 >4.6 would never be released. Your track record shows that you have >ZERO insight to this industry, and your delusions show that you are a >sad character. Fun to read though. > >> --------------------------------------- >> David H. McCoy >> dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com >> --------------------------------------- > >[[[ James Himmelman - jhimmel@i-2000.com ]]] > I never thought it would take over the desktop, just be competitive with Windows. Also, while I admit that I thought 4.6 would never see the light of day, I think such precedents such as OpenDoc, Open32, OS/2's Java comeback, Innoval, SPG, the death of all OS/2 print mags, etc support such opinions. You are still an asshole, I see, but a bore to read. -- --------------------------------------- David H. McCoy dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com --------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: OminorTech (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jan.eri@protector-group.no 07-Nov-99 17:07:20 To: All 07-Nov-99 15:15:21 Subj: Re: PC DOS 7 on Bootmanager From: jan.eri@protector-group.no (Jan Eri) On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 12:59:16, nospam@savebandwidth.invalid (John Thompson) wrote: > primary partition, eg C:. I seem to recall that OpenDOS/DR-DOS > can boot from a logical partition, though. You can download a > free copy from Caldera's web site. at http://www.caldera.com/products/drdos/tryout.html ( I didn't find it immediately myself, so therefore posting it if other are interested) regards, Jan ---------------------------------- Jan Eri -- Protector AS -- Norway Work: http://www.protector-group.no Priv: http://home.eunet.no/~jeri/ --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Protector AS (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: letoured@nospam.net 07-Nov-99 12:27:05 To: All 07-Nov-99 15:15:22 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: letoured@nospam.net David H. McCoy said: >>Why don't you just stop cluttering this new group! >Why don't you use a filter and spare yourself some grief? Because I feel a responsibility to help a**holes find themselves. _____________ Ed Letourneau --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: egermain@mediaone.net 07-Nov-99 18:04:21 To: All 07-Nov-99 15:15:22 Subj: Java 1.1.8 install problem revisited (aka @!#$&%#) From: egermain@mediaone.net (Edward Germain) About a month ago a number of us had trouble installing Java 1.1.8. Many people in this newsgroup made suggestions; we put our heads together emailly, and we figured out our problems. I posted a summary, I think, to this group, and also sent it to a half-dozen of the people who were still having problems. Almost immediately after that, and before I made a backup, my computer crashed. The restore I did didn't include any of that correspondence or my summary of the solution. So I'm here, hat in hand, hoping someone can help. The problem we all faced was this: the computer hung on the steaming cup of coffee. That's what mine is doing again. I have Fixpack 11 installed, and Netscape 4.61. I have deleted all references to Java in my Config.Sys. I have erased all copies of FI.Ini and FISetup.Log. I have reinstalled Feature Install, 1.39. According to the log, it looks as though it installed OK. I have downloaded JDK 1.1.8 and have unpacked it in the \Features\Feature1 subdirectory. I reboot, go to that directory and type "Install." I get 3 results: 1. I get the JDK's spinning globe. I pick "English" as my language. 2 New screen with the steaming cup of coffee. At the bottom of the screen it says "Reading Feature Install Response file". 3. Now the bottom of the screen reads "Resolving the Feature Install variable" . At this point everything hangs. If I wait, I see that OS/2 has reported an Access violation in Install.Dll. If I look at the windows I have open, there is one named "Feature Install User Exit." If I get to that window, it says 'SYS 1041. The name 1 is not recognized..." as a program. Beyond that I can't go. The computer is frozen. What have I forgotten to do? --Ed Germain egermain@mediaone.net --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Road Runner (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: mcbrides@erols.com 07-Nov-99 11:30:05 To: All 07-Nov-99 15:15:22 Subj: Re: CD-RW for OS2 From: mcbrides@erols.com (Jerry McBride) In article , areese@bestnetpc.com (A. Willard Reese) wrote: >I'm considering buying a Yamaha 6x4x16 internal SCSI-2 CD-RW kit with >an Adaptec PCI SCSI interface card to run on my Warp 4.0, fixpak 11, >system. Can anyone tell me their experience with such a setup? How >about drivers for OS2? What problems have been encountered, etc? The >price is right on this combination but it's no good to me if it won't >run in OS2. > Right off the bat... the 6416 runs just fine under all versions of OS/2 with the exception of... there have been posts to the effect that the 6416 is not able to cda with certain software... Why? I have no idea as I don't own one. I do own two 4416s drives that have worked flawlessly under os/2 in all reguards. -- ******************************************************************************* * Sometimes, the BEST things in life really ARE free... * * Get a FREE copy of NetRexx 1.151 for your next java project at: * * * * GET IT NOW! WHILE IT'S STILL FREE! * * * * http://www2.hursley.ibm.com/netrexx * ******************************************************************************* /----------------------------------------\ | From the desktop of: Jerome D. McBride | | mcbrides@erols.com | \----------------------------------------/ -- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: TEAM-NETREXX (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jamesjones01@home.net 07-Nov-99 18:13:25 To: All 07-Nov-99 15:15:22 Subj: &emdash; vs. NS4.61 From: James Jones Supposedly &emdash; gives one an em dash in HTML documents, but experimentation shows that NS 4.61 doesn't appear to understand it. Am I misspelling something (doubtful; I double checked)? If there really is a problem, is there a workaround? Thanks. James Jones Opinions herein are those of the author, and not necessarily those of any organization. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: @Home Network (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: osmo.vuorio@sonera.fi 07-Nov-99 19:40:01 To: All 07-Nov-99 20:07:01 Subj: Re: PC DOS 7 on Bootmanager From: osmo.vuorio@sonera.fi (osmo vuorio) In article <3824A6AA.33E9290E@ATTGlobal.net>, "Walter S. Rue" says: > >The User's Guide says that PC DOS must be installed on C:, implying that >I would have to reinstall OS/2 on some other partition first. You can allways use the double primary partition scheme with OS/2 bootmanager. There is one bad point, primaries will not see eachother is this case. Osmo --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Telecom (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net 07-Nov-99 14:46:29 To: All 07-Nov-99 20:07:01 Subj: Re: Quicken 98 won't install From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum) Satnam Singh wrote: >I get "Wrong Windows version" when I try to install Quicken 98 under >Winos2. I'm only interested in running a checkbook, and accounting for >credit cards/assets; don't care abount downloading transactions via >internet access, etc. > >I'm running Warp 3 Connect Blue spine fp40. I've noted in an unrelated >thread, someone stated Quicken requires latest "MS Video"??? Anyone >know if this is true, what it is? >Satnam Singh > >-- >To reply delete "deletehere." from return email address > > If you've got Java 1.1.7 or later installed, try Sean Reilly's outstanding Java personal finance package, Moneydance. http://seanreilly.com/java/moneydance/ -- Ray Tennenbaum '99 YZF-R6 readme@ http://www.ray-field.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: AT&T WorldNet Services (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net 07-Nov-99 14:27:17 To: All 07-Nov-99 20:07:01 Subj: Re: AIM for Java - OS/2 From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum) John M Price PhD wrote: >In comp.os.os2.apps article Raphael Tennenbaum wrote: > >: John -- or Thomas -- > >: You don't indicate which version of AIM/Java you're trying >: to install. IAC there was an extended discussion about >: these issues about a month or two ago. Fwiw version 1.0.13 >: works here. Check out Deja and see what you come up with. > >Yes, as I noted, I think there really was a network error, or congestion, >going on. I do have 1.0.13, and it works, however it seems that it always >needs to have me login twice - the first time shutting down almost >immediately - and it fails to resend the registration email. It should >not even need to worry about that one, as I am registered for a while now, >and had returned the original email. It did have the correct email >address as well, so I know it got tat from the oscar machine. One thing to check, which I remember going back and forth with back then, is that you're running your aim.cmd file from the subdirectory \AIM -- that is, from the same directory which contains AIM.jar. >-- >John M. Price, PhD jmprice@calweb.com >Life: Chemistry, but with feeling! | PGP Key on request or FTP! > Email responses to my Usenet articles will be posted at my discretion. >Comoderator: sci.psychology.psychotherapy.moderated Atheist# 683 > Syndicate Section III - Number 1 > >The essence of wisdom... lies not in what is known but rather in the >manner in which that knowledge is held and in how that knowledge is put to >use. To be wise is not to know particular facts but to know without >excessive confidence or excessive cautiousness. Wisdom is thus not a >belief, a value, a set of facts, a corpus of knowledge or information in >some specialized area, or a set of special abilities or skills. Wisdom is >an attitude taken by persons toward the beliefs, values, knowledge, >information, abilities, and skills that are held, a tendency to doubt that >these are necessarily true or valid and to doubt that they are an >exhaustive set of those things that could be known. > - Robert J. Sternberg in "Wisdom" (Cambridge, 1990) Sorry but such a long sig cries out for a response :) -- this is a kind of vapid definition of wisdom. Imho. -- Ray Tennenbaum '99 YZF-R6 readme@ http://www.ray-field.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: AT&T WorldNet Services (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: mtillema@nospam.hobby.nl 07-Nov-99 19:29:00 To: All 07-Nov-99 20:07:01 Subj: Re: Quicken 98 won't install From: "Menno Tillema" On Sun, 07 Nov 1999 16:16:06 GMT, jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net wrote: >mode. After that, I make sure they have > enough memory to run. If they >have trouble installing, try to tweak the > Program Manager settings for the >WINOS2 session before the install. You could help Satnam Singh by sending him your settings of Quicken98. To do that RMB on the program object, choos Properties->Session->WIN-OS/2-properties->All settings->Print Then choose a apropriete file and send it to him. Satnam can use the Load option of the same dialog to import the settings. I hope this helps. Anyone for a settings database? Tot mails, ------------------------------------------------------------ Menno Tillema mtillema@nospam.hobby.nl vervang nospam door belgarath voor een reply kijk ook eens op http://www.heemschut.nl ------------------------------------------------------------ Read more ... QUOTE LESS --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: UUNET-NL (http://www.nl.uu.net) (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nospam_evr@spam.net 07-Nov-99 15:22:11 To: All 07-Nov-99 20:07:01 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: "/2 User" On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 11:35:47 -0500, David H. McCoy wrote: >First, what exactly does that have to do with the G400 or TnT2? Nothing, I did not choose those cards. Second, I'm not >suprised that you have problems with Windows. Most OS/2 users in this group >seem to have an almost mystical ability to hose Windows in ways that defy other >Windows users. Huh, the damn crappy OS caused constant lockups, but because I choose not to pay any money for M$ products, it more than balances the $39 dollars spent on Scitech, you probably have spent more on NT utilities just to keep the damn drive defragged;-) Plus be sure to dig in even deeper for the next mandatory upgrade, that Bill is going to force on you. Go to http://www.epox.com/Default.asp and look up EP-MVP3G with the G200 if you don't believe me. I have tried both versions of 95 and 98 and it has never been a good combo. Yet in OS/2 I never had a problem. That concludes it to be a win direct-x problem. Finally, your main point doesn't seem to address the fact you >will have to pay for those drivers when they are released on top of paying for >the card. > Like I said above, they are much less than all the money you spend on mandatory utilities like, Anti Virus, Defraggers, etc. >>One thing I know it will never have, that wretched Internet Exploder. > >IE, IMO, is currently better than Netscape. I am not surprized, ever since Bill Gates captured Ominar and brain washed him;-) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "I tend to stay away from the Advocacy groups to avoid the WindTrolls" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nospam_evr@spam.net 07-Nov-99 15:31:17 To: All 07-Nov-99 20:07:01 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: "/2 User" On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 11:44:28 -0500, David H. McCoy wrote: >So, in the best case, you will have more cards if Scitech continues to support >newer cards which is of course a positive. However, that support will most >likely continue to be offered with some lag time after Windows. Furthermore, it >is obvious that this support is desperately needed considering that difficulty >in finding those older cards that OS/2 still supports. That is fine, let Scietch experiment with the windoze users first. They are used to buying products that are not ready for release any ways. > >The IBM/Scitech agreement sends a clear message that neither IBM nor hardware >vendors are interested in making OS/2 drivers, but this does present a great >'window' of opportunity for Scitech. The same goes for Be, Linux, AS400, etc. so what is you point. Every hardware manufacturer cozies up to the consumer grade OS. "Windows, the Kenmore of PC's." > >Finally, again, you will have drivers that are inferior to those that ship with >the card and must PAY for a version of Scitech to get those advanced features. > So why is Scitech making a windoze version, because they know windoze users are dumb enough to spend money on the inferior alternative, when they already have a free superior driver? Scitech is an improvement over OEM drivers on any platform, that is why it is being made for windoze as well. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "I tend to stay away from the Advocacy groups to avoid the WindTrolls" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nospam_evr@spam.net 07-Nov-99 15:33:08 To: All 07-Nov-99 20:07:01 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: "/2 User" On Sun, 07 Nov 1999 15:24:32 GMT, James Himmelman wrote: >Still delusional I see. Coming from the guy who thought OS/2 would >take over the desktop. Coming from the guy who thought Communicator/2 >4.6 would never be released. Your track record shows that you have >ZERO insight to this industry, and your delusions show that you are a >sad character. Fun to read though. Did you have to go and tell him that we were having fun? Damn the secret is out;-) I hope Ominar is not going to go away now. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "I tend to stay away from the Advocacy groups to avoid the WindTrolls" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rde@tavi.co.uk 07-Nov-99 20:40:19 To: All 07-Nov-99 20:07:01 Subj: Re: Pilot Desktop 1.0 From: rde@tavi.co.uk (Bob Eager) On Wed, 3 Nov 1999 20:29:09, Cassio Roberto Pellegrim wrote: > Is there anybody that could run PILOT DESKTOP 1.0 at WINOS2 ?? I have been running it for about 2 years...on WIN32S 1.25....on WINOS2. Ask me if you'd like more details. -- Bob Eager rde at tavi.co.uk PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2, 8580*6, 8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT.. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Tavi Systems (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: mohd.k.yusof@bohm.anu.edu.au 08-Nov-99 07:39:28 To: All 07-Nov-99 20:07:01 Subj: Re: OS/2 Application Gripes From: mohd.k.yusof@bohm.anu.edu.au (Khairil Yusof) On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 03:14:50, nospam@sancoatjpsdotnet.void (Sander Nyman) wrote: > I have not attempted anything terribly complex with Approach, nor have I > created any "huge" databases. I have been using it to fill some gaps in > software for my business. Version 1.1.1, though still not perfect, has > been doing the job very well. 1.1.1 does not fix these bugs in Approach.. I'm not sure if it happens on all systems but any more then 100 records then listing/sorting/printing will cause Approach to lock up. it has made me go out and learn mSQL though :) --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Australian National University (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nospam_hkelder@capgemini.nl 07-Nov-99 21:50:01 To: All 07-Nov-99 20:07:01 Subj: Re: Java 1.1.8 install problem revisited (aka @!#$&%#) From: Henk kelder Edward, I think most problems are related to the Feature Installers initialisation file FI.INI. This file is located in \OS2\INSTALL. This file contains references to all installed features, but references the location via the WPS internal object handle. On my own system I had problems because some handles inside FI.INI were invalid. I have written two programs: http://www.os2ss.com/information/kelder/readfi.exe will more or less check the handles inside FI.INI. and: http://www.os2ss.com/information/kelder/makefi.exe that will make a file called FI.NEW based on the subdirectories in \OS2\INSTALL\Installed Features. For both to work you need WPTOOLS.DLL from the WPTOOL31.ZIP: http://www.os2ss.com/information/kelder/wptool31.zip Both programs need to be placed in the \OS2\INSTALL directory. Once FI.NEW is created, you can remove the attrib from FI.INI, rename it and rename FI.NEW to FI.INI. And then try to install Jave 1.1.8 again. Henk Edward Germain wrote: > > > > About a month ago a number of us had trouble installing Java 1.1.8. > Many people in this newsgroup made suggestions; we put our heads > together emailly, and we figured out our problems. I posted a > summary, I think, to this group, and also sent it to a half-dozen of > the people who were still having problems. > > Almost immediately after that, and before I made a backup, my computer > crashed. The restore I did didn't include any of that correspondence > or my summary of the solution. > > So I'm here, hat in hand, hoping someone can help. > > The problem we all faced was this: the computer hung on the steaming > cup of coffee. That's what mine is doing again. > > I have Fixpack 11 installed, and Netscape 4.61. I have deleted all > references to Java in my Config.Sys. I have erased all copies of > FI.Ini and FISetup.Log. I have reinstalled Feature Install, 1.39. > According to the log, it looks as though it installed OK. > > I have downloaded JDK 1.1.8 and have unpacked it in the > \Features\Feature1 subdirectory. > > I reboot, go to that directory and type "Install." I get 3 results: > > 1. I get the JDK's spinning globe. I pick "English" as my language. > > 2 New screen with the steaming cup of coffee. At the bottom of the > screen it says "Reading Feature Install Response file". > > 3. Now the bottom of the screen reads "Resolving the Feature Install > variable" . > > At this point everything hangs. If I wait, I see that OS/2 has > reported an Access violation in Install.Dll. If I look at the windows > I have open, there is one named "Feature Install User Exit." If I get > to that window, it says 'SYS 1041. The name 1 is not recognized..." > as a program. > > Beyond that I can't go. The computer is frozen. > > What have I forgotten to do? > > --Ed Germain > egermain@mediaone.net -- Remove nospam when replying.. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: capgemini.nl (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: Spammers@Bite.Me 07-Nov-99 20:52:24 To: All 07-Nov-99 20:07:01 Subj: Re: &emdash; vs. NS4.61 From: "Jaime A. Cruz, Jr." -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I can't say I've ever used that, but I KNOW that — does work in this regard. I use it all of the time on my web page. On Sun, 07 Nov 1999 18:13:51 GMT, James Jones wrote: >Supposedly &emdash; gives one an em dash in HTML documents, but >experimentation shows that NS 4.61 doesn't appear to understand it. >Am I misspelling something (doubtful; I double checked)? If there >really is a problem, is there a workaround? Thanks. > > James Jones > >Opinions herein are those of the author, and not necessarily those of >any organization. > Jaime A. Cruz, Jr. o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o o o o Visit the Nassau Wings Motorcycle Club at: o o http://www.nassauwings.org/ o o A Charter Member of the Motorcycle Web Ring! o o o o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0 OS/2 for non-commercial use Comment: PGP 5.0 for OS/2 Charset: cp850 wj8DBQE4JdiPgvzYfxgMc34RArkeAKDU4aB8VfnZJSWNrF9Nwav8aqM25QCcDgVe YBGBfLWBFxZUbDfzSYMVbQY= =rZi/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Nassau Wings Motorcycle Club (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: kenkahn@aol.com 07-Nov-99 21:14:03 To: All 07-Nov-99 20:07:02 Subj: Re: HTML stripper? From: kenkahn@aol.com (Kenkahn) >I once has a program that removed the HTML codes from a text document. If you're using NetScape, click on File then SaveAs. Specify a file with an extenstion of .TXT; The resulting TXT file will contain only the actual text from the original HTML script. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: AOL http://www.aol.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jmprice@calweb.com 07-Nov-99 13:49:03 To: All 07-Nov-99 20:07:02 Subj: Re: AIM for Java - OS/2 From: John M Price PhD In comp.os.os2.apps article Raphael Tennenbaum wrote: : John M Price PhD wrote: :>In comp.os.os2.apps article Raphael Tennenbaum wrote: :> :>Yes, as I noted, I think there really was a network error, or congestion, :>going on. I do have 1.0.13, and it works, however it seems that it always :>needs to have me login twice - the first time shutting down almost :>immediately - and it fails to resend the registration email. It should :>not even need to worry about that one, as I am registered for a while now, :>and had returned the original email. It did have the correct email :>address as well, so I know it got tat from the oscar machine. : One thing to check, which I remember going back and forth : with back then, is that you're running your aim.cmd file : from the subdirectory \AIM -- that is, from the same : directory which contains AIM.jar. Yes, all those ducks are in a nice row. :>The essence of wisdom... lies not in what is known but rather in the :>manner in which that knowledge is held and in how that knowledge is put to :>use. To be wise is not to know particular facts but to know without :>excessive confidence or excessive cautiousness. Wisdom is thus not a :>belief, a value, a set of facts, a corpus of knowledge or information in :>some specialized area, or a set of special abilities or skills. Wisdom is :>an attitude taken by persons toward the beliefs, values, knowledge, :>information, abilities, and skills that are held, a tendency to doubt that :>these are necessarily true or valid and to doubt that they are an :>exhaustive set of those things that could be known. :> - Robert J. Sternberg in "Wisdom" (Cambridge, 1990) : Sorry but such a long sig cries out for a response :) Ok, but I am not Sternberg! : -- this is a kind of vapid definition of wisdom. Imho. It does separate wisdom from knowledge, and adds a touch of humility before facts, both known and unknown. BTW all my quotes, randomly selected by tin, with occasionally amazing insight for some reason, are available at: ftp://ftp.calweb.com/users/j/jmprice/quotes/ -- John M. Price, PhD jmprice@calweb.com Life: Chemistry, but with feeling! | PGP Key on request or FTP! Email responses to my Usenet articles will be posted at my discretion. Comoderator: sci.psychology.psychotherapy.moderated Atheist# 683 Syndicate Section III - Number 1 Once the realization is accepted that even between the closest human beings infinite distances continue to exist, a wonderful living side by side can grow up, if they succeed in loving the distance between them which makes it possible for each to see each other whole against the sky. - Rainer Rilke --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: his very own desk! (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: egermain@mediaone.net 07-Nov-99 21:51:09 To: All 07-Nov-99 20:07:02 Subj: Re: Java 1.1.8 install problem revisited (aka @!#$&%#) From: egermain@mediaone.net (Edward Germain) On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 20:50:03, Henk kelder wrote: > Edward, > > I think most problems are related to the Feature Installers > initialisation file FI.INI. > This file is located in \OS2\INSTALL. > > This file contains references to all installed features, but references > the location via the WPS internal object handle. On my own system I had > problems because some handles inside FI.INI were invalid. > > I have written two programs: > http://www.os2ss.com/information/kelder/readfi.exe > will more or less check the handles inside FI.INI. > > and: > http://www.os2ss.com/information/kelder/makefi.exe > that will make a file called FI.NEW based on the subdirectories in > \OS2\INSTALL\Installed Features. > > For both to work you need WPTOOLS.DLL from the WPTOOL31.ZIP: > http://www.os2ss.com/information/kelder/wptool31.zip > > Both programs need to be placed in the \OS2\INSTALL directory. > > Once FI.NEW is created, you can remove the attrib from FI.INI, rename it > and rename FI.NEW to FI.INI. And then try to install Jave 1.1.8 again. > Henk, you're terriffic! I had already tried fiwrite, but didn't know I had to have wptools.dll. I followed your instructions, and ran Readfi. It suggested that Feature Install wasn't installed. I then ran FixIni from Unimaint to make sure all handles were OK. Then ran Fiwrite. It created a zero byte Fi.New file which I renamed, etc. Voila! Java 1.1.8 installed without a hitch. Thank you, thank you! I am often astonished and grateful for the informed and helpful aid given here. I imagine that some day I will switch to Linux, and will take this high comraderie as a standard with me. But not yet.. Best regards, --Ed Germain > > > > > > Edward Germain wrote: > > > > > > > > About a month ago a number of us had trouble installing Java 1.1.8. > > Many people in this newsgroup made suggestions; we put our heads > > together emailly, and we figured out our problems. I posted a > > summary, I think, to this group, and also sent it to a half-dozen of > > the people who were still having problems. > > > > Almost immediately after that, and before I made a backup, my computer > > crashed. The restore I did didn't include any of that correspondence > > or my summary of the solution. > > > > So I'm here, hat in hand, hoping someone can help. > > > > The problem we all faced was this: the computer hung on the steaming > > cup of coffee. That's what mine is doing again. > > > > I have Fixpack 11 installed, and Netscape 4.61. I have deleted all > > references to Java in my Config.Sys. I have erased all copies of > > FI.Ini and FISetup.Log. I have reinstalled Feature Install, 1.39. > > According to the log, it looks as though it installed OK. > > > > I have downloaded JDK 1.1.8 and have unpacked it in the > > \Features\Feature1 subdirectory. > > > > I reboot, go to that directory and type "Install." I get 3 results: > > > > 1. I get the JDK's spinning globe. I pick "English" as my language. > > > > 2 New screen with the steaming cup of coffee. At the bottom of the > > screen it says "Reading Feature Install Response file". > > > > 3. Now the bottom of the screen reads "Resolving the Feature Install > > variable" . > > > > At this point everything hangs. If I wait, I see that OS/2 has > > reported an Access violation in Install.Dll. If I look at the windows > > I have open, there is one named "Feature Install User Exit." If I get > > to that window, it says 'SYS 1041. The name 1 is not recognized..." > > as a program. > > > > Beyond that I can't go. The computer is frozen. > > > > What have I forgotten to do? > > > > --Ed Germain > > egermain@mediaone.net > > -- > Remove nospam when replying.. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Road Runner (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: merlin@blackpalace.com 07-Nov-99 22:00:16 To: All 07-Nov-99 20:07:02 Subj: Re: AIM for Java - OS/2 From: merlin@blackpalace.com (Merlin) In message <3823ad7d_1@news.calweb.com> - John M Price PhD 5 Nov 1999 20:24:29 -0800 writes: :> :>Well, I installed it. It continually 'times out'. Thinking it is teh :>connection, I tried the version with Netscape for Win98 - no problem. :> :>Any hints? :> ummmmm, just a little more information would assist here. AIM for Java works here fine. Warp4, fp12, Java 1.1.8 with Nov5 fix pack. I just don't like the AIM concept vs ICQ. __________________________________ merlin of OS/2 on Merlin, fp12, TCP/IP 4.1, Java 1.1.8 Emtec News www.blackpalace.com merlin@blackpalace.com ICQ 245937 __________________________________ --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Camelot (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: egermain@mediaone.net 07-Nov-99 22:06:15 To: All 07-Nov-99 20:07:02 Subj: Re: CD-RW for OS2 From: egermain@mediaone.net (Edward Germain) On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 16:30:11, mcbrides@erols.com (Jerry McBride) wrote: > >I'm considering buying a Yamaha 6x4x16 internal SCSI-2 CD-RW kit with > >an Adaptec PCI SCSI interface card to run on my Warp 4.0, fixpak 11, > >system. Can anyone tell me their experience with such a setup? How > >about drivers for OS2? What problems have been encountered, etc? The > >price is right on this combination but it's no good to me if it won't > >run in OS2. > > > > Right off the bat... the 6416 runs just fine under all versions of OS/2 with > the exception of... Hmm, I'm in an almost similar situation. Only I have an Adaptec 2940 on the motherboard. I imagine it would work OK in this setup, too. Any comments? --Ed Germain --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Road Runner (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: forgitaboutit@fake.com 07-Nov-99 17:50:01 To: All 07-Nov-99 20:07:02 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: David H. McCoy In article , nospam_evr@spam.net says... >On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 11:35:47 -0500, David H. McCoy wrote: > >>First, what exactly does that have to do with the G400 or TnT2? > >Nothing, I did not choose those cards. Nothing. Exactly. You answer had the same relevence as a statement about coffee. > Second, I'm not >>suprised that you have problems with Windows. Most OS/2 users in this group >>seem to have an almost mystical ability to hose Windows in ways that defy other >>Windows users. > >Huh, the damn crappy OS caused constant lockups, but because I choose not to >pay any money for M$ products, it more than balances the $39 dollars spent on >Scitech, you probably have spent more on NT utilities just to keep the damn >drive defragged;-) Like the Graham Utilities or GammaTech? Both are HPFS-defraggers, you know. I know plenty of people using Windows and most don't have constant lock-ups. That is an ability mastered by OS/2 users like you who don't have 's' keys. Diskeeper for NT is free. You did know this, right? >Plus be sure to dig in even deeper for the next mandatory >upgrade, that Bill is going to force on you. What mandatory upgrade? You mean like the $200 bucks IBM is charging you just to allow you to get Netscape and Java(at some point not yet determined), the very software that others get for free? Do you enjoy paying for things that others get for free? Seems that nothing is more mandatory than the Software Subscription Choice Program. >Go to http://www.epox.com/Default.asp and look up EP-MVP3G with the G200 if >you don't believe me. I have tried both versions of 95 and 98 and it has >never been a good combo. Yet in OS/2 I never had a problem. That concludes it >to be a win direct-x problem. Strange, I would say that the motherboard is certainly suspect. Only someone who WANTS to blame Windows would make that assumption. That's why I use good boards like Abit. > Finally, your main point doesn't seem to address the fact you >>will have to pay for those drivers when they are released on top of paying for >>the card. >> > >Like I said above, they are much less than all the money you spend on >mandatory utilities like, Anti Virus, Defraggers, etc. Hello, there are anti-virus programs and defraggers for OS/2. And process killers. You don't find any process killers for Windows, you now. As opposed to shelling out cash twice for video cards, for example. Once for the card that you can't fully use, then for drivers that STILL can't fully exploit the card. Or all that money for RSJ, the only commercial OS/2 CD-R program and it doesn't support IDE drives. But hey, you get to spend over $200 for that single choice. The price difference between RSJ and any ONE Windows CD-R program will cover your defragger and anti-virus programs, if you so need them. Of course, defraggers comes with Windows 98, Diskeeper for NT is free. >>>One thing I know it will never have, that wretched Internet Exploder. >> >>IE, IMO, is currently better than Netscape. > >I am not surprized, ever since Bill Gates captured Ominar and brain washed >him;-) > Nope. Windows NT won Ominor over by being a superior product. Ominor doesn't support losers. -- --------------------------------------- David H. McCoy dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com --------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: OminorTech (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: forgitaboutit@fake.com 07-Nov-99 17:58:12 To: All 07-Nov-99 20:07:02 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: David H. McCoy In article , nospam_evr@spam.net says... >On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 11:44:28 -0500, David H. McCoy wrote: > >>So, in the best case, you will have more cards if Scitech continues to support >>newer cards which is of course a positive. However, that support will most >>likely continue to be offered with some lag time after Windows. Furthermore, it >>is obvious that this support is desperately needed considering that difficulty >>in finding those older cards that OS/2 still supports. > >That is fine, let Scietch experiment with the windoze users first. They are >used to buying products that are not ready for release any ways. Like Stellar Frontiers, JStreet Mailer, or Avarice all betas programs that OS/2 users paid to participate in. Besides, Windows users don't need Scitech because unlike OS/2, their drivers work fully and out of the box. The lag time I spoke of is the time it will take Scitech to get OS/2 drivers out of the door. They've only just added Voodoo3 and TnT2 support and those are in beta. GeForce is out. Drivers are available, yet Scitech is no where to be found. OS/2 users are used to paying for stuff the same price for less features. >> >>The IBM/Scitech agreement sends a clear message that neither IBM nor hardware >>vendors are interested in making OS/2 drivers, but this does present a great >>'window' of opportunity for Scitech. > >The same goes for Be, Linux, AS400, etc. so what is you point. Every hardware >manufacturer cozies up to the consumer grade OS. "Windows, the Kenmore of >PC's." NT is consumer grade and has support that is better than all of the above. Heck even Linux has G400 multimonitor support as does NT. Only OS/2, the bridesmaid of Operating systems is out in the cold. >> >>Finally, again, you will have drivers that are inferior to those that ship with >>the card and must PAY for a version of Scitech to get those advanced features. >> > >So why is Scitech making a windoze version, because they know windoze users >are dumb enough to spend money on the inferior alternative, when they already >have a free superior driver? Scitech is an improvement over OEM drivers on >any platform, that is why it is being made for windoze as well. > Silly boy. Scitech's main purpose is life is the squeeze out life from obselete hardware. The must have fainted when they found OS/2. Why don't you try reading what they do. For example, they've got a product, FOR WINDOWS ONLY, that gives OpenGL support to cards that don't have it natively. Find a new card that fits that description. Of course, they've decided that OS/2 isn't good enough to port this program to. > > -- --------------------------------------- David H. McCoy dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com --------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: OminorTech (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: forgitaboutit@fake.com 07-Nov-99 17:59:13 To: All 07-Nov-99 20:07:02 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: David H. McCoy In article , nospam_evr@spam.net says... >On Sun, 07 Nov 1999 15:24:32 GMT, James Himmelman wrote: > >>Still delusional I see. Coming from the guy who thought OS/2 would >>take over the desktop. Coming from the guy who thought Communicator/2 >>4.6 would never be released. Your track record shows that you have >>ZERO insight to this industry, and your delusions show that you are a >>sad character. Fun to read though. > >Did you have to go and tell him that we were having fun? >Damn the secret is out;-) > >I hope Ominar is not going to go away now. "Ominar" is having plenty of fun. Reading your prose is better than any sitcom. > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >"I tend to stay away from the Advocacy groups to avoid the WindTrolls" >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > -- --------------------------------------- David H. McCoy dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com --------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: OminorTech (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: postmaster@[127.0.0.1] 07-Nov-99 16:47:09 To: All 07-Nov-99 20:07:02 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: postmaster@[127.0.0.1] In <3824809F.38187E4E@hotmail.com>, on 11/06/99 at 01:25 PM, Robert Dohrenburg said: >> I think this is a bit of a reach and a bit inappropriate. >> >I just posted the definition from the dictonary. I took care not to make >any additional comments. Hey, it's your conscience. -- GK FrodoJRR at Interaccess dot com OS/2 Version 4.00 FixPack 12 There are 28 Processes with 118 Threads. This machine's uptime is 1d 1h 14m 54s 562ms. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: mikelrob@flash.net 07-Nov-99 22:55:00 To: All 07-Nov-99 20:07:02 Subj: Smack, CM2 won't run From: mikelrob@flash.net (Michael Robertson) I have two apps that won't run. (I may have more but haven't seen them yet.) These are Smack and CM2, the config editor. I used them both two or three weeks ago and don't think I've done anything to the system in betweeen. When I try to start Smack I immediately get a message: Unrecoverable error: No label layout defined. Check PROFILE.SMR to ensure that at least one label layout is defiined. The file looks like this: /* * Smack! profile macro */ /* Load label definitions */ CALL "AveryLsr.smr" CALL "Envelope.smr" CALL "CustomLb.smr" /* Define colors */ CALL "ColorDef.smr" RETURN I thought perhaps I had lost REXX somehow so I reinstalled it but it makes no difference. The program terminates immediately. I can't recall how I registered Smack and I have no idea how to get any technical support. Perfectniche.com just has sales stuff. When I clock on the icon for CM2, nothing happens. When I run it from the command line I'm immediately returned to a prompt. Can anyone make sense out of one or both of these mysteries? Michael Robertson ***Live simply, that others may simply live.*** --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: FlashNet Communications, http://www.flash.net (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jhimmel@i-2000.com 07-Nov-99 23:17:17 To: All 07-Nov-99 21:28:07 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: jhimmel@i-2000.com (James Himmelman) On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 16:46:59, David H. McCoy wrote: > In article , > jhimmel@i-2000.com says... > >On Sat, 6 Nov 1999 22:07:29, David H. McCoy > >wrote: > >> In article , > >> nospam_evr@spam.net says... > >> >On 6 Nov 1999 09:53:41 -0500, John Brock wrote: > >> >>>It is very strange that he was one of the biggest advocates of OS/2 and the > >> >>>biggest basher of microcrap, now he turned 180 degrees. I wonder if he used > >> >>>to do the same in MS NGs back in his OS/2 utopia days? > >> >>I found McCoy's "Ominor" shtick singularly unimpressive, and I said so > >> >>at the time. Given that he has spent *far* more time bashing OS/2 than > >> >>he ever spent advocating it, maybe that was his plan from the start! > > > >> >Maybe he has always secretly admired Bill Gates;-) > >> He's having dinner with me right now. > >Still delusional I see. Coming from the guy who thought OS/2 would > >take over the desktop. Coming from the guy who thought Communicator/2 > >4.6 would never be released. Your track record shows that you have > >ZERO insight to this industry, and your delusions show that you are a > >sad character. Fun to read though. > > > >> --------------------------------------- > >> David H. McCoy > >> dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com > >> -------------------------------------- > >[[[ James Himmelman - jhimmel@i-2000.com ]]] > I never thought it would take over the desktop, just be competitive with > Windows. Yeah, right. > Also, while I admit that I thought 4.6 would never see the light of > day, I think such precedents such as OpenDoc, Open32, OS/2's Java comeback, > Innoval, SPG, the death of all OS/2 print mags, etc support such opinions. > You are still an asshole, I see, but a bore to read. And yet you do it anyway. Funny guy. > --------------------------------------- > David H. McCoy > dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com > --------------------------------------- [[[ James Himmelman - jhimmel@i-2000.com ]]] --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rde@tavi.co.uk 07-Nov-99 23:25:06 To: All 07-Nov-99 21:28:08 Subj: Re: CD-RW for OS2 From: rde@tavi.co.uk (Bob Eager) On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 22:06:31, egermain@mediaone.net (Edward Germain) wrote: > > Right off the bat... the 6416 runs just fine under all versions of OS/2 with > > the exception of... > > Hmm, I'm in an almost similar situation. Only I have an Adaptec 2940 > on the motherboard. I imagine it would work OK in this setup, too. > Any comments? I've been running the 4416S for several months now. I have an IBM Server 325 which has the Adaptec 7880 on the main board (2940 chipset). Runs fine. I use the RSJ software, which I found was cheaper from BMT Micro! -- Bob Eager rde at tavi.co.uk PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2, 8580*6, 8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT.. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Tavi Systems (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: dwhawk@southwind.net 07-Nov-99 23:27:26 To: All 07-Nov-99 21:28:08 Subj: HTML stripper? From: dwhawk@southwind.net (Don Hawkinson) lifedata@xxvol.com wrote l> I once has a program that removed the HTML codes from a text l> document. I could drag HTMLs onto its icon on my desktop and it l> would place the text file in a directory. l> l> The name of the EXE was UNHTML. But I have an HTML.EXE that seems l> to be purely command line driven. Does anybody know if there are l> actually two different programs of this general nature? I am the author of UNH and PMStripper. UNH is a command line utility but it is not the same as the utility called UNHTML PMStripper is an PM utility that has more options and funtionality than UNH. You can find download links to PMStripper and UNH on my web page at http://www2.southwind.net/~dwhawk Don Hawkinson , author of CCA, DH-Grep-PM, PMStripper, Pastry Box, and DH_ClipSave/2 http://www2.southwind.net/~dwhawk dwhawk@southwind.net --- -- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: dwhawk@southwind.net 07-Nov-99 23:27:29 To: All 07-Nov-99 21:28:08 Subj: Re: &emdash; vs. NS4.61 From: dwhawk@southwind.net (Don Hawkinson) Spammers@Bite.Me wrote S> I can't say I've ever used that, but I KNOW that — does work S> in this regard. I use it all of the time on my web page. From the web page at: http://www.htmlhelp.com/reference/charset/ ISO-8859-1 explicitly does not define displayable characters for positions 0-31 and 127-159, and the HTML standard does not allow those to be used for displayable characters. The only characters in this range that are used are 9, 10 and 13, which are tab, newline and carriage return respectively. If you attempt to display these invalid characters on your own system, you may find some characters displayed there, but please do not assume that other users will see the same thing (or even anything at all) on their systems. --- -- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jhimmel@i-2000.com 07-Nov-99 23:32:22 To: All 07-Nov-99 21:28:08 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: jhimmel@i-2000.com (James Himmelman) On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 16:44:28, David H. McCoy wrote: > SciTech Display Doctor/se for OS/2 Warp distributed by IBM will include the > following features: > > "GRADD" driver with GUI hardware acceleration > Resolutions: 640x480, 800x600, 1024x768, 1280x1024, 1600x1200 > Color Depths: 8, 15,16,24 and 32 Bits Per Pixel > Refresh rates: 60 - 85Hz refresh > Support for many graphics chips. > > In addition to the features listed above, SciTech Display Doctor Professional > for OS/2 Warp sold by SciTech will include: > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Support for ultra high resolutions up to 2048x1536 > Support for creating new display modes and refresh rates > Support for 16:9 display modes > Refresh rates of 120Hz+ > Future features will include video and 3D acceleration > > > So, in the best case, you will have more cards if Scitech continues to support > newer cards which is of course a positive. However, that support will most > likely continue to be offered with some lag time after Windows. Furthermore, it > is obvious that this support is desperately needed considering that difficulty > in finding those older cards that OS/2 still supports. > > The IBM/Scitech agreement sends a clear message that neither IBM nor hardware > vendors are interested in making OS/2 drivers, but this does present a great > 'window' of opportunity for Scitech. > > Finally, again, you will have drivers that are inferior to those that ship with > the card and must PAY for a version of Scitech to get those advanced features. > --------------------------------------- > David H. McCoy > dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com > --------------------------------------- "Advanced features" that probably more than 95% of users won't need. 1600X1200 is good up to a 19" monitor. I don't know anyone using 16:9, and 85Hz is enough to eliminate flicker on my screen (it's the refresh rate that I am running now and looks great). Of course you will be able to brag about having those advanced features for free. I guess OS/2 users should go hang themselves over that one. For what it's worth, I would have no trouble paying SciTech for those advanced features if I needed them. I am willing to pay more to run my OS of choice, and SciTech deserves compensation for their hard work. I believe their is a Windows version of SciTech's product for purchase as well. It's a big deal only to you - one who doesn't even use OS/2. It gives you bragging rights, and that's about ALL it does. What a sad fellow. [[[ James Himmelman - jhimmel@i-2000.com ]]] --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: madbrain%nospam@nospam.thetaband... 07-Nov-99 15:38:08 To: All 07-Nov-99 21:28:08 Subj: Theta Band Software announces the distribution of MMPack through Mensys Message sender: madbrain%nospam@nospam.thetaband.com From: Julien Pierre Theta Band Software's Multimedia Pack for OS/2 is now available for ordering through Mensys at http://www.mensys.nl . MMPack is a collection of utilities to enhance OS/2 multimedia, and contains the following programs : MMCheck This is a utility that checks your MMPM/2 installation (i.e. MMPM2.INI) for errors or suspicious settings. If it finds any, it will tell you what they are, so that you can fix them. MPU-401 Driver This is a replacement for IBM's MPU-401 driver, which is used to MIDI support for a number of sound cards, including sound cards that use the Crystal Semiconductor drivers. Enhancements over IBM's driver include : fixes for Warp 3 SMP compatibility better hardware compatibility DOS sharing RTMIDI recording without an IRQ and more! NPDSMI 2.0 This is a plug-in for Netscape Navigator and Communicator for OS/2. The function of the DSMI plug-in is to play music module files embedded on web pages. Module files are 32 channel digital music and are of tremendously high quality. This new version 2.0 of the DSMI Netscape plug-in supports compressed zip module files. More information about MMPack is available on our web site at http://www.thetaband.com -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Julien Pierre http://www.madbrain.com Theta Band Software LLC http://www.thetaband.com -------------------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Theta Band Software LLC (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: enaud@bellsouth.net 07-Nov-99 18:53:02 To: All 07-Nov-99 21:28:08 Subj: Re: CD-RW for OS2 From: Duane Chamblee Bob Eager wrote: > I've been running the 4416S for several months now. I have an IBM > Server 325 which has the Adaptec 7880 on the main board (2940 > chipset). Runs fine. Ditto, I make the some WarpUP! cds with this. > I use the RSJ software, which I found was cheaper from BMT Micro! Actually, have you looked at Indelible Blue's price recently? ;-) --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: acogbill@geopotential.com 07-Nov-99 16:53:28 To: All 07-Nov-99 21:28:08 Subj: NS 4.61 Install Program fails From: "Allen Cogbill" I'm trying to install NS 4.61 on a Warp 4 FP8 system. I already installed it once on a Warp 4 FP 5 system that is very similar. I have Java 1.1.8 installed. When I attempt to execute the install program, I get the message: EPFIE610: An error occurred while attempting to start the installation utility. Close any unneeded programs and try the operation again. I've closed everything except the Desktop, but the message still appears. Nothing in the README file mentions any such problem. Does anyone has any suggestions for a workaround?? Thanks, Allen Cogbill --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Santa Fe Institute (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rdegenna@utk.edu 08-Nov-99 01:16:23 To: All 08-Nov-99 03:40:16 Subj: WordPro prints envelopes wrong. Can you help? From: rdegenna@utk.edu How can I get WordPro to print an envelope correctly? I click "create envelope" and everything appears perfectly on the screen. The envelope is the right size and the software knows it. The address is in the right spot. The letter itself prints fine. But the address on the envelope prints much too high and to the left -- almost where the return address should be. I have an HP Laserjet 2100 and the correct drivers. The only thing that seems unusual is that I must physically insert the envelope almost 2 inches into the printer's envelope feed. Otherwise, it pulls a sheet of paper and prints the address on that. It seems to me that the printer should have the capability to pull an envelope without manually stuffing one down its throat. But that's the only thing that's unusual. What am I doing wrong? Or do I have a defective printer? Thanks for any help. Ray DeGennaro --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: University of Tennessee, Knoxville (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: aaronl@pec.co.nz 08-Nov-99 14:32:22 To: All 08-Nov-99 03:40:16 Subj: Re: Theta Band Software announces the distribution of MMPack through From: Aaron Lawrence Julien Pierre wrote: > Theta Band Software's Multimedia Pack for OS/2 is now available for > ordering > through Mensys at http://www.mensys.nl . I had a look at this, and it's cool, but the things in it aren't really compelling to me. There are more pressing problems with MMOS/2 such as the lack of much PCI soundcard support. IMHO. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: CLEAR Net New Zealand (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: 877ur6NOSPAM@yahoo.com 07-Nov-99 17:59:00 To: All 08-Nov-99 03:40:16 Subj: Re: Smack, CM2 won't run From: Lee Reilly <877ur6NOSPAM@yahoo.com> Michael Robertson wrote: > I have two apps that won't run. (I may have more but haven't seen > them yet.) These are Smack and CM2, the config editor. I used them > both two or three weeks ago and don't think I've done anything to the > system in betweeen. > > When I try to start Smack I immediately get a message: > > Unrecoverable error: > No label layout defined. Check > PROFILE.SMR to ensure that at least > one label layout is defiined. > > The file looks like this: > > /* > * Smack! profile macro > */ > > /* Load label definitions */ > CALL "AveryLsr.smr" > CALL "Envelope.smr" > CALL "CustomLb.smr" > > /* Define colors */ > CALL "ColorDef.smr" > > RETURN > > I thought perhaps I had lost REXX somehow so I reinstalled it but it > makes no difference. The program terminates immediately. I can't > recall how I registered Smack and I have no idea how to get any > technical support. Perfectniche.com just has sales stuff. > > When I clock on the icon for CM2, nothing happens. When I run it > from the command line I'm immediately returned to a prompt. > > Can anyone make sense out of one or both of these mysteries? > > Michael Robertson > > ***Live simply, that others may simply live.*** I read an item at a private OS2/ web site that SMACK! developers have stopped develpment on the next upgrade of SMACK! pointing the blame at IBM's 'development environment'. LEE --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Lee Reilly (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nospam_evr@spam.net 07-Nov-99 21:25:08 To: All 08-Nov-99 03:40:17 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: "/2 User" On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 17:50:03 -0500, David H. McCoy wrote: > >Like the Graham Utilities or GammaTech? Both are HPFS-defraggers, you know. I >know plenty of people using Windows and most don't have constant lock-ups. That >is an ability mastered by OS/2 users like you who don't have 's' keys. I know HPFS defraggers are available but I have never needed them. Most people just assume the are needed from force of habit using Bills wretched file systems. > >Diskeeper for NT is free. You did know this, right? Nothing is free, you pay through the nose just to buy NT. > > >>Plus be sure to dig in even deeper for the next mandatory >>upgrade, that Bill is going to force on you. > >What mandatory upgrade? You mean like the $200 bucks IBM is charging you just >to allow you to get Netscape and Java(at some point not yet determined), the >very software that others get for free? Gee, I am up the Comm4.61 and Java 1.18 and it was free. I hear some FUD;-) > >Do you enjoy paying for things that others get for free? Seems that nothing is >more mandatory than the Software Subscription Choice Program. > >>Go to http://www.epox.com/Default.asp and look up EP-MVP3G with the G200 if >>you don't believe me. I have tried both versions of 95 and 98 and it has >>never been a good combo. Yet in OS/2 I never had a problem. That concludes it >>to be a win direct-x problem. > >Strange, I would say that the motherboard is certainly suspect. Only someone >who WANTS to blame Windows would make that assumption. That's why I use good >boards like Abit. Well here is the link: http://www.epox.com/support/bulletins/t-23.html Now, if I am having a problem in OS/2 I can boot another OS to see if it continues, if it does, it is a hardware problem. If the problem goes away, it is a software problem. The problem with the G200 and the Via chipset is a windoze 9x problem. Their is no problem with Dos, win3.1, OS/2 ver 3 or 4 in my box. So keep on blaming the hardware, it will never change the fact that windoze is not as compatible as you think. > >> Finally, your main point doesn't seem to address the fact you >>>will have to pay for those drivers when they are released on top of paying for >>>the card. >>> >> >>Like I said above, they are much less than all the money you spend on >>mandatory utilities like, Anti Virus, Defraggers, etc. > >Hello, there are anti-virus programs and defraggers for OS/2. And process >killers. I have never needed any of those utilities, so it does not apply to me, it is just a bad old habit the people have picked up from using MS Dos. Most OS/2 users really do not need these utilities that are more important to virus prone Dos, and bad fragmenting, cross linking, allocation error prone MS file systems. > You don't find any process killers for Windows, you now. Not you don't. That is why reset buttons were put on the front of PCs with the introduction of windoze95. As opposed >to shelling out cash twice for video cards, for example. Once for the card that >you can't fully use, then for drivers that STILL can't fully exploit the card. >Or all that money for RSJ, the only commercial OS/2 CD-R program and it doesn't >support IDE drives. But hey, you get to spend over $200 for that single choice. Scietech exploits the cards much better than OEM drivers, on any platform that is not a Kenmore consumer quality designed for idiots OS. Only the real Oses are lacking driver support. Wintendo has it all. > >The price difference between RSJ and any ONE Windows CD-R program will cover >your defragger and anti-virus programs, if you so need them. Of course, >defraggers comes with Windows 98, Diskeeper for NT is free. Why should I waste an hour defragging my hard drive, plus all the time wasted loading files before I get time to defrag it? > >>>>One thing I know it will never have, that wretched Internet Exploder. >>> >>>IE, IMO, is currently better than Netscape. >> >>I am not surprized, ever since Bill Gates captured Ominar and brain washed >>him;-) >> > >Nope. Windows NT won Ominor over by being a superior product. Ominor doesn't >support losers. > Well I don't support monopolies that try and force stuff up my ass either. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "I tend to stay away from the Advocacy groups to avoid the WindTrolls" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca 08-Nov-99 04:15:18 To: All 08-Nov-99 03:40:17 Subj: Re: CD-RW for OS2 From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong) A. Willard Reese (areese@bestnetpc.com) wrote: : I'm considering buying a Yamaha 6x4x16 internal SCSI-2 CD-RW kit with : an Adaptec PCI SCSI interface card to run on my Warp 4.0, fixpak 11, : system. Can anyone tell me their experience with such a setup? How : about drivers for OS2? What problems have been encountered, etc? The : price is right on this combination but it's no good to me if it won't : run in OS2. Is the Yamaha your only choice? Seeing as how Plextor, Yamaha, and Ricoh all make the best CDR/CDRW drives, the Ricoh models I find (at least in Canada) seem to run a little cheaper. In my case, only $40, but still...$40 more for buying CDR's for me. ;-) I have the 7040S (4x write, 4x re-write, 20x read). They have a newer model that replaces it in the 7060S (a 6x write). Plextor while being the best of the bunch are also the most expensive. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: St. John's InfoNET (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jvarela@mind-spring.com 08-Nov-99 03:25:26 To: All 08-Nov-99 03:40:17 Subj: Re: WordPro prints envelopes wrong. Can you help? From: jvarela@mind-spring.com (John Varela) On Mon, 8 Nov 1999 01:16:47, rdegenna@utk.edu wrote: > What am I doing wrong? Or do I have a defective printer? Please tell us what kind of printer and what driver you're using. I find that tne Omni driver won't print envelopes properly on my ESC 600 but the Epsom drivers will. -- John Varela to e-mail, remove - between mind and spring --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: MindSpring Enterprises (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: Kanderson@kanderson.net 07-Nov-99 21:04:04 To: All 08-Nov-99 03:40:17 Subj: Star Office From: Ken anderson Is anybody having any trouble with Star Office databases saving data? I try to edit data in the tables but once I hit enter the data returns to what it was previously. I am in edit mode when I make the changes. Nothing seems to make this work. Any ideas? TIA Ken --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: SBC Internet Services (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: wayne@SPAM.tkb.att.ne.jp 08-Nov-99 14:18:28 To: All 08-Nov-99 03:40:17 Subj: Re: NS 4.61 Install Program fails From: "Wayne Bickell" I remember that the install program on't run if you are trying to install from a folder with a space in the name. I can't remember if the message is the same though. Cheers Wayne On Sun, 07 Nov 1999 16:53:56 -0700 (MST), Allen Cogbill wrote: :>I'm trying to install NS 4.61 on a Warp 4 FP8 system. I already installed it :>once on a Warp 4 FP 5 system that is very similar. I have Java 1.1.8 installed. :>When I attempt to execute the install program, I get the message: :> :> EPFIE610: An error occurred while attempting to start :> the installation utility. Close any unneeded programs :> and try the operation again. :> :> :>I've closed everything except the Desktop, but the message still appears. :>Nothing in the README file mentions any such problem. Does anyone has any :>suggestions for a workaround?? :> :>Thanks, :>Allen Cogbill :> :> ****************************************************** Wayne Bickell Tokyo, Japan wayne@tkb.att.ne.jp ****************************************************** Posted with PMINews 2 for OS/2 Running on OS/2 Warp 4 (UK) + FixPak 9 ****************************************************** --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: AT&T Internet Service (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com 08-Nov-99 01:03:24 To: All 08-Nov-99 03:40:17 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: Bob Germer On , on 11/07/99 at 03:31 PM, "/2 User" said: > The same goes for Be, Linux, AS400, etc. so what is you point. Every > hardware manufacturer cozies up to the consumer grade OS. "Windows, the > Kenmore of PC's." Nah, Kenmore isn't that bad. Windows is more like the Edsel of PC's. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------- Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: bobg@Pics.com Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 12 MR/2 Ice Registration Number 67 Aut Pax Aut Bellum ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com 08-Nov-99 06:25:13 To: All 08-Nov-99 03:40:17 Subj: Re: &emdash; vs. NS4.61 From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" James Jones wrote: > Supposedly &emdash; gives one an em dash in HTML documents, but > experimentation shows that NS 4.61 doesn't appear to understand it. > Am I misspelling something (doubtful; I double checked)? If there > really is a problem, is there a workaround? Thanks. I don't believe that is a correct symbol in HTML. The following is a chart I've used for reference to the supported characters and HTML codes within the Latin-1 charset, in the HTML 3.2 standard (perhaps you'll find another character there that would suffice for your needs): http://www.htmlhelp.com/reference/charset/latin1.gif Jeffrey S. Kobal IBM Corporation --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: judithr@primenet.com 07-Nov-99 22:11:05 To: All 08-Nov-99 03:40:17 Subj: Partition Magic 5.0 upgrade From: judithr@primenet.com Funny experience. I was going to order the Partition Magic 5.0 upgrade, download. I filled in the form, requesting "email only for products I owned" from their drop-down menu choices. Submitted, got back notice that there was an error, it wanted the two-letter state code. It had not said to use a two-letter state name, and the space was large, so I had put in "California" rather than CA. Sometimes CA gets mixed up with GA. Almost hit the submit button, then noticed that one other thing had been reset. They changed the "receive email only for products I own" to "receive any email for Powerquest." That seemed strange, but I thought it might be my error. But, it had not yet said how big the download was and it was late, so I emptied the shopping cart and quit. Then went back, to check that changed email authorization. Same thing. They changed only that one item on the form, to accept any email rather than only on products I owned. And it was not highlighted, which would have been acceptable, indicating a reset. That seemed .....a little lowdown and dirty. Cheating. So I canceled again and will not buy. Didn't look like it added anything worth much anyway, except maybe for WinXX users. Is that sort of thing normal when buying software on-line? Judith Russell judithr@primenet.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: EarthLink Network, Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca 08-Nov-99 07:53:04 To: All 08-Nov-99 05:18:18 Subj: Re: Star Office From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong) Ken anderson (Kanderson@kanderson.net) wrote: : Is anybody having any trouble with Star Office databases saving data? I : try to edit data in the tables but once I hit enter the data returns to : what it was previously. I am in edit mode when I make the changes. : Nothing seems to make this work. Any ideas? ftp.stardivision.com They have some patches there, for all flavors of StarOffice. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: St. John's InfoNET (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: thorenz@hydromech.uni-hannover.de 08-Nov-99 10:01:17 To: All 08-Nov-99 05:18:18 Subj: Re: Memory full?? From: Carsten Thorenz Peter.Weilbacher@T-Online.de wrote: > I have the problem that at some point OS/2 tells me that it cannot start > any programs or modules, because the memory is full. [snip] > I have 98 MB in total which are all recognized by OS/2 and this > phenomenon seems to take place, when I have about 14 MB free (as MemSize > tells me). I had a similar problem some time ago. My system has 128MB + plenty of swap and told me something about "memory full" (though it wasn't). After some trying I've come to the impression that some kind of other resources was used up. It came up shortly after using a fixpack and after upgrading to FP12 the problem seems to have vanished again. Bye, Carsten -- Carsten Thorenz Institut fuer Stroemungsmechanik und elektronisches Rechnen im Bauwesen thorenz@hydromech.uni-hannover.de http://www.hydromech.uni-hannover.de/w3-pages-thorenz/thorenz.html --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: RRZN - Newsserver Test (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: cocke@catherders.com 08-Nov-99 04:46:16 To: All 08-Nov-99 10:31:26 Subj: Re: Quicken 98 won't install From: Michael W. Cocke I've been using Quicken 98 on Win-Os2 since it came out, and I just want to bring up a couple of things... On Sun, 07 Nov 1999 16:16:06 GMT, jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net wrote: >In <38251A3B.4C1E1FF9@dpnet.net>, Michael DeBusk writes: >>Satnam Singh wrote: >> >>> I get "Wrong Windows version" when I try to install Quicken 98 under >>> Winos2. I'm only interested in running a checkbook, and accounting for >>> credit cards/assets; Have you set the win_run mode to 'enhanced compatibility' in your session settings? You need to. You'll also want to set XMS memory limit to 16384. >>I get the same error, but not when trying to install Quicken98. That >>went fine for me. I get the error when trying to run WordPerfect 7 suite >>for Windows 3.1, or when trying to run the version of MSIE that shipped >>with Quicken98. Wordperfect 7 also works here, or it did the 3 times I started it. >>> don't care abount downloading transactions via internet access, etc. >> >>You should. The only way to get updates and bugfixes to Quicken98 is to >>use MSIE. >> Incorrect. Actually, Intuit will be quite happy to send you a CD with the latest fixes - they're quite used to it, since the download method usually fails. >I have Warp 4 here, and I have several Win 3.1 programs on my >system which are running fine, including MS Office 4.1, Word Perfect >6.1, Timeline 6.1, and Quicken 98. > >I can remember getting those messages once in a while, but was able to >eliminat them by tweaking the settings in the settings notebook. Mine >are run in a full screen WINOS2 session, and they are all set for enhanced >mode. After that, I make sure they have enough memory to run. If they >have trouble installing, try to tweak the Program Manager settings for the >WINOS2 session before the install. Good point - you MUST run quicken in a full screen session. YOu must also INSTALL it in a full screen session. >After installing the programs, I have them all set up on individual >icons so that they cn be started directly from an OS/2 folder. > >If I remember corectly, the messages being observed above were MS's >way of trying to defeat OS/2 installs in the early days. > >----------------------------------------------------------- >Fred Springfield for e-mail remove 'xxx' >Plymouth, MN >----------------------------------------------------------- > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Please note: My Email and web page addresses are changing in January 2000. The new email address is cocke@catherders.com The web page is at http://www.catherders.com Because network administration is like herding cats. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: UseNet Server, Inc. http://www.usenetserver.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca 08-Nov-99 10:24:03 To: All 08-Nov-99 10:31:26 Subj: ICQ vs. AOL From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong) I recall reading on WarpCast a while ago about there being some security flaws in ICQ. I was just wondering if AOL's Instant Messenger has the same flaws... --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: St. John's InfoNET (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: msuch@free.fr 08-Nov-99 10:52:07 To: All 08-Nov-99 10:31:26 Subj: SMART SUITE 1.1 fixes From: "Michel SUCH" Hi all, I have a problem loading some msword files into my wordpro with a 3175 abend. Have there been some fixes to the 1.1 version and where can they be downloaded from? Michel SUCH - Team OS/2 FRANCE ICQ # 51654489 --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: moi-mˆme personnellement (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bd83h@bedford.waii.com 08-Nov-99 11:26:09 To: All 08-Nov-99 10:31:26 Subj: Re: SMART SUITE 1.1 fixes From: Steve Drewell On Mon, 8 Nov 1999, Michel SUCH wrote: î I have a problem loading some msword files into my wordpro with a 3175 î abend. î î Have there been some fixes to the 1.1 version and where can they be î downloaded from? There have been, but at the moment I cannot point you to the url but hopefully someone else can. What I've noticed about the v1.1.1 updates is that some of the files are identical to the original ones which makes me wonder why they are included in the "update". Has anyone else noticed that? Cheers, Steve --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Western Geophysical, Houston, TX (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: cbzh@my-deja.com 08-Nov-99 12:32:12 To: All 08-Nov-99 10:31:26 Subj: NS4.61 - JavaScript - Speed ?? From: cbzh@my-deja.com When going to sites that seem to use a lot of JavaScript I get the impression that my NS4.61 browser becomes a serious brake, while otherwise being rather fast and reliable, at least compared to earlier versions! I am waiting and waiting for pages to show up, while the Network Traffic indicator if InJoy shows a throughput of 0... Do others experience similar things ?? One site I have this problem is my bank account and I rather don't want to publish the URL and login here for everyone to try :-) but another one is more publicly available: http://www.nationalgeographic.com/mapmachine From at home where I am using OS/2 alone I most of the time only get timeout errors and the like; only once or twice among many more tries I could really get a map. On the other hand, when trying it from here at work on a NT with NS4.5 I could use the site mentioned just like other sites, pages showing up in a "realistic" time frame! Of course there is also the point that I can try here on Monday morning (Central European Time) while it's deep Sunday night in the USA, and at home I have to try in the evening or Saturday morning when its noon or Friday night in the US... Any other experiences?? Greetings, Cornelis Bockemühl e-mail: cbockem@datacomm.ch Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: Roland.Pinches@pmail.net 08-Nov-99 12:56:27 To: All 08-Nov-99 10:31:26 Subj: Problem with 123 from Smartsuite 1.1 From: "Roland Pinches" Hi, I've recently upgraded my system from Warp 4.0 FP11 to WSeB. The main reason for this is because my motherboard is an SMP board with 2 x 400MHz PII processors. Since doing the upgrade, I have been unable to run Lotus 123. The program starts load and brings up the dialog box to select a worksheet to open, but as soon as I select a sheet, it produces the following error: Unexpected OLE error occured. OLE error: 8007000a I get the same message each time. None of the other apps seem to be affected, WordPro etc still work ok. Is Smartsuite supported on SMP machines? Is there a workaround? This isn't particularly urgent as I use Star Office most of the time. Any suggestions gratefully received. Roly. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: ccsten@usa.net 08-Nov-99 13:32:06 To: All 08-Nov-99 20:06:28 Subj: Re: Accounting application From: Terry Norton http://www.spitfiresoftware.com/ "Roberto F. Salomon" wrote: > > I am looking for an accounting application for a small/medium sized business. > Does anyone know of a true OS/2 app to do the job? -- Terry Norton Warped with OS/2 This OS/2 system uptime is 0d 12h 12m 36s 843ms (en). Only in America... do people order double cheeseburgers, large fries, and a Diet Coke. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Together Networks - Burlington, VT. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nospam@nospamnospam.com 08-Nov-99 19:24:07 To: All 08-Nov-99 20:06:28 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: nospam@nospamnospam.com (Magnus Olsson) On Sat, 6 Nov 1999 19:25:19, Robert Dohrenburg wrote: > postmaster@[127.0.0.1] wrote: > > > > I think this is a bit of a reach and a bit inappropriate. > > > > > I just posted the definition from the dictonary. I took care not to make > any additional comments. In this case additional comments replacing the definition might have been better:-) - all the best Magnus Olsson --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Utfors AB (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nospam@nospamnospam.com 08-Nov-99 19:24:08 To: All 08-Nov-99 20:06:28 Subj: Re: AIM for Java - OS/2 From: nospam@nospamnospam.com (Magnus Olsson) On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 21:49:07, John M Price PhD wrote: >> : Sorry but such a long sig cries out for a response :) > > Ok, but I am not Sternberg! No, but it's your sig.:-) > : -- this is a kind of vapid definition of wisdom. Imho. > > It does separate wisdom from knowledge, and adds a touch of humility > before facts, both known and unknown. Your sentence here is a lot less vapid than your sig was:-) I encourage you to seek wisdom, and humour will come with it:-) > BTW all my quotes, randomly selected by tin, with occasionally amazing > insight for some reason, are available at: You probably have good intentions.. > ftp://ftp.calweb.com/users/j/jmprice/quotes/ I've found some very good quotes on the internet and i'll be presenting them on my website after this. I'll have a look at yours too, but so far the best word, that i know of, to describe them is - vapid!:-) - all the best Magnus Olsson --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Utfors AB (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nospam@nospamnospam.com 08-Nov-99 19:24:05 To: All 08-Nov-99 20:06:28 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: nospam@nospamnospam.com (Magnus Olsson) On Sat, 6 Nov 1999 00:48:23, Robert Dohrenburg wrote: > schiz-o-phre-ni-a: > 1. Any of a group of phychotic disorders usually characterized by > withdrawl from reality, illogical patterns of thinking, delusions and > halucinations and accompained in varying degrees by other emotional, > behavioral, or intellectual disturbances. Schizophrenia, often > associated with dopamine imbalances in the brain and defects of the > frontal lobe, may have an underlaying genetic cause. > > 2. A condition that results from the coexistence of disparate or > antagonistic qualities, identities, or activities: the schizophrenia of > the double espionage agent. > > The American Heritahe Dictionary. Dictionaries can be very misleading, use your intelligence instead. - all the best Magnus Olsson --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Utfors AB (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: dd@dandrake.com 08-Nov-99 18:52:14 To: All 08-Nov-99 20:06:28 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: dd@dandrake.com (Dan Drake) On Fri, 5 Nov 1999 20:28:55, donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) wrote: >.. > > [Now, see, if ProNews came back alive we could get one more filter field, > to allow us to block any article containing one of the unspeakable strings > anywhere in the body.] Yes! Anybody in the ng client business reading this? Someday there will be a better newsreader tha ProNews, I suppose, and this will be one of its features. How long have I wished for it when looking at some soc.history.science posting and finding that it's just a reply to Mathematician Transuranium, who has been kill-filed for years. -- Dan Drake dd@dandrake.com http://www.dandrake.com/index.html What exactly was the sin of Sodom? Explicit details at http://bible.gospelcom.net/bible?ezekiel+16:49 --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: hamei@pacbell.net 08-Nov-99 20:58:20 To: All 08-Nov-99 20:06:28 Subj: Re: os/2 under linux, win9x or NT From: hamei@pacbell.net In <942067291.278707@daeumling.is-europe.at>, "Michael Wagner" writes: >Hi folks, > >is there a possibility to run os/2 appl (32Bit). under linux, win9x or NT. >-Because I have a very big customer who has to provide the possibility to >run win32 and os/2 appl. on the same machine. >-OS/2 as desktop platform is death! I have this info from IBM directly. I >think there must be a lot of another companies with the same problem everyone complains about how bad Microsoft is but at the time no one did anything about it . . . if this is a BIG customer, tell IBM that they will either support OS/2 ON THE DESKTOP, or your customer will change over to NT and all Microsoft products and non-IBM hardware & services. Mean it. IBM doesn't really give a sh*t if I live or die, but big customers they care for. Unless your company would like to subsidize IBM and Microsoft both, make them stand behind their "solution." You bought a solution, not a product - did it have an expiration date ? When your company invested in this solution, did IBM tell you that " in x number of years this solution will no longer work and you'll have to change over to our competitor's 'solution' after all ?" If not, scream. Scream loud, scream long, and scream big money. That is the only thing that any corporation listens to now. > >vmware does not support os2 yet(if enough interested party are asking for >vmware will build in the os/2 support), >bochs does also not support os2 (I've no statement from bochs at present). >.. >is there something else?. > -- h„rad ‘ngravv†d --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: SBC Internet Services (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rde@tavi.co.uk 08-Nov-99 20:40:01 To: All 08-Nov-99 20:06:28 Subj: Re: Pilot Desktop 1.0 From: rde@tavi.co.uk (Bob Eager) On Mon, 8 Nov 1999 16:04:59, Cassio Roberto Pellegrim wrote: > Of course, I want more details ... > > Coud you explain how did you installed it ?? I'll dig out the details and email them. Anyone else wants them...ask -- Bob Eager rde at tavi.co.uk PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2, 8580*6, 8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT.. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Tavi Systems (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nospam@nospamnospam.com 08-Nov-99 19:23:29 To: All 08-Nov-99 20:06:28 Subj: Re: Netscape cache messing up From: nospam@nospamnospam.com (Magnus Olsson) On Fri, 5 Nov 1999 08:32:04, andy wrote: > > I'll take the opportunity to thank you and the IBM team for > > communicator 4.61. I'm not completely happy with it (drag and drop > > still works better with 2.02, which is also more stable), but it's a > > big leap forward from 4.04 and caching works *much* better than in > > 2.02!:-) > > The only stability problem I've got (up to now) is that the messenger crashes every > first time I start it I've got something that may be related. Some ten times i've had the messenger crash when selecting a warpcast message *right after* retrieving new messages. If i restart messenger and select an unread warpcast message it crashes again, and again, but if i select an already read message, i can thereafter read all messages without any crashing. BTW: I think the fact that it's always been warpcast messages is only coincidence, if there is such a thing:-) When talking about problems with communicator, the thing i find most annoying is that downloads quietly finish before they are *really* finished. > > greetings > Andreas > - all the best Magnus Olsson --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Utfors AB (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rcpj@panix.com 08-Nov-99 21:33:15 To: All 08-Nov-99 20:06:28 Subj: Re: Can OS/2 users grow up and think like Linux users? From: rcpj@panix.com (Pierre Jelenc) Raphael Tennenbaum writes: > > To be honest, I can't tell you, since I heard so many horror > stories I never bothered with either. My basic feeling is > that there's freeware or reasonably-priced shareware to do > everything (or practically everything) that OD does. To > start with, have a look at Xfolder > > ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/util/wps/xfld085.zip Since I installed XFolder, I can't copy objects, it tells me that an object of the same name exists already no matter what the new name I give it. Pierre -- Pierre Jelenc | The Cucumbers' "Total Vegetility" is out! | Pawnshop's "Three Brass Balls" is out! The New York City Beer Guide | RAW Kinder's "CD EP" is out! http://www.nycbeer.org | Home Office Records http://www.web-ho.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Public Access Networks Corp. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rcpj@panix.com 08-Nov-99 21:43:26 To: All 08-Nov-99 20:06:28 Subj: Re: CD-RW for OS2 From: rcpj@panix.com (Pierre Jelenc) Jerry McBride writes: > > Right off the bat... the 6416 runs just fine under all versions of OS/2 with > the exception of... there have been posts to the effect that the 6416 is not > able to cda with certain software... Why? I have no idea as I don't own one. That was me. It works fine with cdda2wav from the cdrecord package, but that seems to be the only one. There seems to be a bug in cdda2wav, but it's minor. If you try to rip a number of tracks, say 2-5, and track 5 is longer than track 4, then track 5 will be truncated to the length of track 4. There is no problem in single-track ripping. Pierre -- Pierre Jelenc | The Cucumbers' "Total Vegetility" is out! | Pawnshop's "Three Brass Balls" is out! The New York City Beer Guide | RAW Kinder's "CD EP" is out! http://www.nycbeer.org | Home Office Records http://www.web-ho.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Public Access Networks Corp. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: debu4335@dpnet.net 08-Nov-99 16:44:10 To: All 08-Nov-99 20:06:28 Subj: Re: Quicken 98 won't install From: Michael DeBusk "Michael W. Cocke" wrote: > Have you set the win_run mode to 'enhanced compatibility' in your > session settings? You need to. Tried that. > You'll also want to set XMS memory limit to 16384. Haven't tried that. Hang on... OK, just tried that (both things.) I get the same error: "The Win-OS/2* session does not support this application." Same thing either fullscreen or seamless. :( > Wordperfect 7 also works here, or it did the 3 times I started it. It used to work for me too. I don't understand why it quit. > >>The only way to get updates and bugfixes to Quicken98 is to use MSIE. > >> > > Incorrect. Actually, Intuit will be quite happy to send you a CD with > the latest fixes - they're quite used to it, since the download method > usually fails. Cool! To whom do I send an e-mail? > Good point - you MUST run quicken in a full screen session. I run Quicken98 seamless. -- Mike DeBusk ÿ North East, Maryland USA ÿ Team OS/2 Host of the ILink Psychology and OS_Discuss conferences --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: ntr.net Corporation (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: matinee@cix.co.uk 08-Nov-99 22:30:25 To: All 08-Nov-99 20:06:28 Subj: Microtek ScanMaker 330 works in OS/2 via CFM Twain full release. From: matinee@cix.co.uk (Peter Kay) As per subject. It's never been completely obvious by reading the newsgroups. With the demo it doesnt work, with the release it does, with no changes required. --- Peter Kay --- Manchester, UK --- OS/2, NT and more --- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: UUNET WorldCom server (post doesn't reflect views (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: cocke@catherders.com 08-Nov-99 17:51:13 To: All 08-Nov-99 20:06:28 Subj: Re: Quicken 98 won't install From: Michael W. Cocke On Mon, 08 Nov 1999 16:44:21 -0500, Michael DeBusk wrote: >"Michael W. Cocke" wrote: > >> Have you set the win_run mode to 'enhanced compatibility' in your >> session settings? You need to. > >Tried that. > >> You'll also want to set XMS memory limit to 16384. > >Haven't tried that. Hang on... > >OK, just tried that (both things.) I get the same error: "The Win-OS/2* >session does not support this application." Same thing either fullscreen >or seamless. :( Is that the _exact_ error message? If so, hmmmm..... What video driver and mode do you have selected for OS/2? For WIN-os2? Quicken98 requires 256 colors minimum. (Actually, it can be fooled, but that's a different subject). Something sounds strange here. That isn't any of the 'standard' error messages that I've ever seen out of Win-OS2. >> Wordperfect 7 also works here, or it did the 3 times I started it. > >It used to work for me too. I don't understand why it quit. Try this... Open a full screen win-os2 session, then try running the application from the file manager (or desktop if you've configured for it). Sometimes this will display an error message that is otherwise being 'eaten'. I have the oddest hunch - no proof (yet) that your video drivers or mode for winos2 have gotten out of sync with the video for OS/2. Either that or memory allocation errors. That error message is bothering me... >> >>The only way to get updates and bugfixes to Quicken98 is to use MSIE. >> >> >> >> Incorrect. Actually, Intuit will be quite happy to send you a CD with >> the latest fixes - they're quite used to it, since the download method >> usually fails. > >Cool! To whom do I send an e-mail? I have no idea. I just call them on the phone - the number is in the manual and on their web page. >> Good point - you MUST run quicken in a full screen session. > >I run Quicken98 seamless. > >-- >Mike DeBusk ˜ North East, Maryland USA ˜ Team OS/2 >Host of the ILink Psychology and OS_Discuss conferences !?!?!?! My wife used to be the SIG-Admin, among other things, and I sysoped the Central Core BBS and hosted the BASIC conference. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Please note: My Email and web page addresses are changing in January 2000. The new email address is cocke@catherders.com The web page is at http://www.catherders.com Because network administration is like herding cats. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: UseNet Server, Inc. http://www.usenetserver.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: daolath@news1.mnsinc.com 08-Nov-99 23:02:18 To: All 08-Nov-99 20:06:28 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: daolath@news1.mnsinc.com (Mike Williams) On Fri, 05 Nov 1999 06:46:27 -0500, Bob Germer wrote: >For some time I have had a watch killing all incoming messages from >McCoy.I see from many replies that he is still spreading lies here on >behalf of MicroSlop. > >For those who don't know, this is a very, very disturbed individual who >needs to be locked in a padded cell and forcefed the medications he >refuses to take. Until then, I suggest you apply a kill filter to keep him >from his wasteful activities. Well, you could probably say that about most of us. I keep an eye on his posts because I keep hoping that Ominor will take him over again, but so far, no joy. -- -Mike I can also be reached at work: mike.williams@swift.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Verio (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: gczerw@home.No-Spam.com 08-Nov-99 23:08:05 To: All 08-Nov-99 21:19:01 Subj: Re: SMART SUITE 1.1 fixes From: gczerw@home.No-Spam.com (George Czerw) On Mon, 8 Nov 1999 11:26:18, Steve Drewell wrote: > On Mon, 8 Nov 1999, Michel SUCH wrote: > > î I have a problem loading some msword files into my wordpro with a 3175 > î abend. > î > î Have there been some fixes to the 1.1 version and where can they be > î downloaded from? > > There have been, but at the moment I cannot point you to the url but > hopefully someone else can. What I've noticed about the v1.1.1 updates is > that some of the files are identical to the original ones which makes me > wonder why they are included in the "update". Has anyone else noticed > that? > > Cheers, > Steve > Fixes can be found at the following URL: http://www.support.lotus.com/sims2/sims_or2.nsf/430bb6168e25dd69852566 430080b767/c980c1bf48fa57fa852567af00646c04?OpenDocument&ExpandSection =1#_Section1.4 George --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: @Home Network (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: postmaster@[127.0.0.1] 08-Nov-99 16:58:18 To: All 08-Nov-99 21:19:01 Subj: Re: Quicken 98 won't install From: postmaster@[127.0.0.1] In , on 11/07/99 at 02:46 PM, raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum) said: >If you've got Java 1.1.7 or later installed, try Sean >Reilly's outstanding Java personal finance package, >Moneydance. >http://seanreilly.com/java/moneydance/ Agreed. It's quite excellent. -- GK FrodoJRR at Interaccess dot com OS/2 Version 4.00 FixPack 12 There are 31 Processes with 121 Threads. This machine's uptime is 2d 1h 26m 18s 257ms. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nospam_evr@spam.net 08-Nov-99 19:53:04 To: All 08-Nov-99 21:19:01 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: "/2 User" On Mon, 08 Nov 1999 23:02:37 GMT, Mike Williams wrote: >Well, you could probably say that about most of us. I keep an eye on his posts >because I keep hoping that Ominor will take him over again, but so far, no joy. Never trust on traitor on either side. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "I tend to stay away from the Advocacy groups to avoid the WindTrolls" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: tvoltagg@home.com 09-Nov-99 01:25:09 To: All 09-Nov-99 03:31:28 Subj: Re: Quicken 98 won't install From: tvoltagg@home.com Does it have PC Banking? In <382755a7$1$sebqbwee$mr2ice@nntp.interaccess.com>, postmaster@[127.0.0.1] writes: >In , on 11/07/99 > at 02:46 PM, raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum) >said: > >>If you've got Java 1.1.7 or later installed, try Sean >>Reilly's outstanding Java personal finance package, >>Moneydance. > >>http://seanreilly.com/java/moneydance/ > >Agreed. It's quite excellent. > >-- >GK > >FrodoJRR at Interaccess dot com >OS/2 Version 4.00 FixPack 12 >There are 31 Processes with 121 Threads. >This machine's uptime is 2d 1h 26m 18s 257ms. > > --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Team OS/2 (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: wsrue@ATTGlobal.net 08-Nov-99 20:39:05 To: All 09-Nov-99 03:31:28 Subj: Re: PC DOS 7 on Bootmanager From: "Walter S. Rue" Thanks for all the responses! I do have Partition Magic, both v3 & v4, and used it on a new drive recently. Alas, that now gives me room to carve out a new FAT primary on the first drive. I'm not going to install the DOS right away, but at least now I know I can. One other question: Does anyone know how large the partition should be? I was thinking about 50mg, including a couple of small apps. But that is only a guess. -Walter "Walter S. Rue" wrote: > > The User's Guide says that PC DOS must be installed on C:, implying that > I would have to reinstall OS/2 on some other partition first. > > Is there some way I can set the (CD) install to use, say, H: instead? I > assume that the Bootmanager hookup would be no problem in any case. > > Thanks in advance. > > -Walter --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: forgitaboutit@fake.com 08-Nov-99 20:58:17 To: All 09-Nov-99 03:31:28 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: David H. McCoy In article , nospam_evr@spam.net says... >On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 17:50:03 -0500, David H. McCoy wrote: > >> >>Like the Graham Utilities or GammaTech? Both are HPFS-defraggers, you know. I >>know plenty of people using Windows and most don't have constant lock-ups. That >>is an ability mastered by OS/2 users like you who don't have 's' keys. > >I know HPFS defraggers are available but I have never needed them. Most >people just assume the are needed from force of habit using Bills wretched >file systems. > >> >>Diskeeper for NT is free. You did know this, right? > >Nothing is free, Diskeeper is free. >you pay through the nose just to buy NT. I payed $129 for the OS/2 upgrade in 1996. I payed $72 for NT 4.0 Full blown in August 1997. The upgrade to Win2000 from NT will be $149. You don't appear to know very much. I'll help you. >> >> >>>Plus be sure to dig in even deeper for the next mandatory >>>upgrade, that Bill is going to force on you. >> >>What mandatory upgrade? You mean like the $200 bucks IBM is charging you just >>to allow you to get Netscape and Java(at some point not yet determined), the >>very software that others get for free? > >Gee, I am up the Comm4.61 and Java 1.18 and it was free. I hear some FUD;-) No, you just don't know about the software choice subscription of IBM. You will learn when the next version of Java for OS/2 comes out because starting in January, it is $200. You are sure out of the loop. >> >>Do you enjoy paying for things that others get for free? Seems that nothing is >>more mandatory than the Software Subscription Choice Program. >> >>>Go to http://www.epox.com/Default.asp and look up EP-MVP3G with the G200 if >>>you don't believe me. I have tried both versions of 95 and 98 and it has >>>never been a good combo. Yet in OS/2 I never had a problem. That concludes it >>>to be a win direct-x problem. >> >>Strange, I would say that the motherboard is certainly suspect. Only someone >>who WANTS to blame Windows would make that assumption. That's why I use good >>boards like Abit. > >Well here is the link: http://www.epox.com/support/bulletins/t-23.html And here is the text "Some EPoX motherboards using the VIA MVP3 chipset may suffer from some stability issues with Matrox AGP video cards using the G200 video chipset. It will be necessary for the Matrox G200 AGP video card’s BIOS to be updated to atleast VGA/VBE BIOS version 1.3 revision 0.11 and the drivers for Windows 95/98 to be upgraded to atleast revision 4.21.009. The new updated BIOS and drivers for the Matrox G200 AGP card can be downloaded from the Matrox Website here: " According to this, the bios and Matrox drivers are at fault. Clearly, you insistence to blame Windows when even your motherboard maker says the bios and Matrox's drivers are at fault show that you are inot interested in finding the real cause of your problems. >Now, if I am having a problem in OS/2 I can boot another OS to see if it >continues, if it does, it is a hardware problem. If the problem goes away, it >is a software problem. The problem with the G200 and the Via chipset is a >windoze 9x problem. Their is no problem with Dos, win3.1, OS/2 ver 3 or 4 in >my box. So keep on blaming the hardware, it will never change the fact that >windoze is not as compatible as you think. N, it is a bios and Matrox driver problem. The link YOU provided says so. It seems that once again, you are mistaken. Don't you ever grow tired of this? >> >>> Finally, your main point doesn't seem to address the fact you >>>>will have to pay for those drivers when they are released on top of paying for >>>>the card. >>>> >>> >>>Like I said above, they are much less than all the money you spend on >>>mandatory utilities like, Anti Virus, Defraggers, etc. >> >>Hello, there are anti-virus programs and defraggers for OS/2. And process >>killers. > >I have never needed any of those utilities, so it does not apply to me, it is >just a bad old habit the people have picked up from using MS Dos. Most OS/2 >users really do not need these utilities that are more important to virus >prone Dos, and bad fragmenting, cross linking, allocation error prone MS file >systems. Unless you are not using OS/2, it does apply to you. Else, since copies of Grahm, Gammatech, and IBM anti-virus were sold, you must feel that OS/2 users are idiots for buying software they don't need. I've got news for you, DOS viruses can affect OS/2 through DOS VDMs and HPFS can fragment. All filesystems can fragment. >> You don't find any process killers for Windows, you now. > >Not you don't. That is why reset buttons were put on the front of PCs with >the introduction of windoze95. Silly boy. I've got a 486 from 1994 that was out before Windows 95 that has a reset buttons. Reset buttons were out on 386s. Don't you ever get out? > As opposed >>to shelling out cash twice for video cards, for example. Once for the card that >>you can't fully use, then for drivers that STILL can't fully exploit the card. >>Or all that money for RSJ, the only commercial OS/2 CD-R program and it doesn't >>support IDE drives. But hey, you get to spend over $200 for that single choice. > >Scietech exploits the cards much better than OEM drivers, on any platform >that is not a Kenmore consumer quality designed for idiots OS. Only the real >Oses are lacking driver support. Wintendo has it all. Scitech sells software to people with old video cards, a market that clearly includes OS/2. New cards have no need for them. Even Linux has dual-monitor support for the G400. Only poor OS/2 is on the outside looking in. >> >>The price difference between RSJ and any ONE Windows CD-R program will cover >>your defragger and anti-virus programs, if you so need them. Of course, >>defraggers comes with Windows 98, Diskeeper for NT is free. > >Why should I waste an hour defragging my hard drive, plus all the time wasted >loading files before I get time to defrag it? Beats me. If I need to defrag, I'll set it for 4:00 am in the morning when I sleeping. >> >>>>>One thing I know it will never have, that wretched Internet Exploder. >>>> >>>>IE, IMO, is currently better than Netscape. >>> >>>I am not surprized, ever since Bill Gates captured Ominar and brain washed >>>him;-) >>> >> >>Nope. Windows NT won Ominor over by being a superior product. Ominor doesn't >>support losers. >> > >Well I don't support monopolies that try and force stuff up my ass either. > Nope, you just support IBM, who quietly slips their stuff up your ass. Makes it seem more like your idea. -- --------------------------------------- David H. McCoy dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com --------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: OminorTech (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: wsrue@ATTGlobal.net 08-Nov-99 20:47:08 To: All 09-Nov-99 03:31:28 Subj: Re: SMART SUITE 1.1 fixes From: "Walter S. Rue" ORG32B.DLL is one of the duplicates, without looking at others. By the way, Lotus certainly has a weird way of publishing fix-packs, quite unlike those published elsewhere in IBM. For example, why can't they include a simple read.me? -Walter Steve Drewell wrote: > > On Mon, 8 Nov 1999, Michel SUCH wrote: > > ˜ I have a problem loading some msword files into my wordpro with a 3175 > ˜ abend. > ÿ > ˜ Have there been some fixes to the 1.1 version and where can they be > ˜ downloaded from? > > There have been, but at the moment I cannot point you to the url but > hopefully someone else can. What I've noticed about the v1.1.1 updates is > that some of the files are identical to the original ones which makes me > wonder why they are included in the "update". Has anyone else noticed > that? > > Cheers, > Steve --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: forgitaboutit@fake.com 08-Nov-99 21:07:08 To: All 09-Nov-99 03:31:28 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: David H. McCoy In article , nospam_evr@spam.net says... >On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 17:58:24 -0500, David H. McCoy wrote: > >>> >>>That is fine, let Scietch experiment with the windoze users first. They are >>>used to buying products that are not ready for release any ways. >> >>Like Stellar Frontiers, JStreet Mailer, or Avarice all betas programs that OS/2 >>users paid to participate in. > >And windows users pay in advance for beta OSes, and pay again for the next >beta that was supposed to fix the last failure. Solaris users pay in advance also. And Unix users(which I also use) make you clowns look stupid. Regardless, next year OS/2 users will be paying for good video drivers, Java, and webbrowsers, things the rest of the world get for free. How stupid. >> >>Besides, Windows users don't need Scitech because unlike OS/2, their drivers >>work fully and out of the box. > >Not out of the box I opened. And I have used Matrox drivers on OS/2 with no >problems as well. You seem to feel that one driver works on all operating systems. Regardless, the G400, TnT2, Voodoo3, basic any good new card won't work well under OS/2 out of the box. Tseng cards work great though. >>The lag time I spoke of is the time it will take Scitech to get OS/2 drivers >>out of the door. They've only just added Voodoo3 and TnT2 support and those are >>in beta. GeForce is out. Drivers are available, yet Scitech is no where to be >>found. > >If you think you have to run out and buy every new card on the market, all I >can say is the vendors are lucky to have you. Don't need every new card, just one. The TnT2 and guess what. The OS/2 support sucks. But I do agree, that the vendors are lucky to have customers who buy stuff. That's why they don't support OS/2. >>OS/2 users are used to paying for stuff the same price for less features. >> >>>> >>> >>>The same goes for Be, Linux, AS400, etc. so what is you point. Every hardware >>>manufacturer cozies up to the consumer grade OS. "Windows, the Kenmore of >>>PC's." >> >>NT is consumer grade and has support that is better than all of the above. Heck >>even Linux has G400 multimonitor support as does NT. Only OS/2, the bridesmaid >>of Operating systems is out in the cold. > >Correct, consumer grade is always the inferior product in any situation. OS/2 >is a commercial grade OS. You know the one preferred in almost every bank. Sure for ATM machines. Embedded chip makes like DOS. Regardless, I left the "not" out of the above sentence. NT is commercial level, is selling better than OS/2 ever will, and kills OS/2 WRT support. That's why IBM is standardizing on Windows 2000 and is showing OS/2 the door. >>>> >>>So why is Scitech making a windoze version, because they know windoze users >>>are dumb enough to spend money on the inferior alternative, when they already >>>have a free superior driver? Scitech is an improvement over OEM drivers on >>>any platform, that is why it is being made for windoze as well. >>> >>Silly boy. Scitech's main purpose is life is the squeeze out life from obselete >>hardware. The must have fainted when they found OS/2. Why don't you try reading >>what they do. For example, they've got a product, FOR WINDOWS ONLY, that gives >>OpenGL support to cards that don't have it natively. Find a new card that fits >>that description. Of course, they've decided that OS/2 isn't good enough to >>port this program to. >> > >What ever, the whole point is Scitech is writing for a Dead OS, as you Fud >mongers would say. Because even when a person dies, there are people who making money on the corpse. Of course, Scitech's money will be made on the IBM license because people like you are too cheap to actually buy anything. That's why most OS/2 ISVs leave. -- --------------------------------------- David H. McCoy dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com --------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: OminorTech (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: forgitaboutit@fake.com 08-Nov-99 21:07:29 To: All 09-Nov-99 03:31:28 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: David H. McCoy In article <3826D7CE.7DB1B0B5@card-plus-ca.com>, howard.wong@card-plus-ca.com says... >I'll do just that, as I nauseate at the sight of >"David H. McCoy" anywhere in a message. > You need help. Perhaps a girl... -- --------------------------------------- David H. McCoy dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com --------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: OminorTech (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: forgitaboutit@fake.com 08-Nov-99 21:08:29 To: All 09-Nov-99 03:31:28 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: David H. McCoy In article , daolath@news1.mnsinc.com says... >On Fri, 05 Nov 1999 06:46:27 -0500, Bob Germer wrote: >>For some time I have had a watch killing all incoming messages from >>McCoy.I see from many replies that he is still spreading lies here on >>behalf of MicroSlop. >> >>For those who don't know, this is a very, very disturbed individual who >>needs to be locked in a padded cell and forcefed the medications he >>refuses to take. Until then, I suggest you apply a kill filter to keep him >>from his wasteful activities. > >Well, you could probably say that about most of us. I keep an eye on his posts >because I keep hoping that Ominor will take him over again, but so far, no joy. > > Ominor doesn't support inferior operating systems. NT has, in Ominor's opinion, passed NT by. -- --------------------------------------- David H. McCoy dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com --------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: OminorTech (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: hjmurray@home.com 09-Nov-99 02:14:22 To: All 09-Nov-99 03:31:28 Subj: Re: Partition Magic 5.0 upgrade From: "Hal Murray" > worth much anyway, except maybe for WinXX users. > > Is that sort of thing normal when buying software on-line? > > I tried Partition Magic 4 on my OS/2 drive and it destroyed my extended partition. So I went back to Partition Magic 3 text version. I don't expect they addresses the Os/2 incompatibility in Version 5. Hal Murray Calgary, AB Warp 4, FP12, Java 118, Emerald Mai --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: @Home Network Canada (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net 08-Nov-99 19:58:13 To: All 09-Nov-99 03:31:28 Subj: Re: Can OS/2 users grow up and think like Linux users? From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum) rcpj@panix.com (Pierre Jelenc) wrote: >Raphael Tennenbaum writes: >> >> To be honest, I can't tell you, since I heard so many horror >> stories I never bothered with either. My basic feeling is >> that there's freeware or reasonably-priced shareware to do >> everything (or practically everything) that OD does. To >> start with, have a look at Xfolder >> >> ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/os2/util/wps/xfld085.zip > >Since I installed XFolder, I can't copy objects, it tells me that an >object of the same name exists already no matter what the new name I give >it. > >Pierre >-- >Pierre Jelenc | The Cucumbers' "Total Vegetility" is out! > | Pawnshop's "Three Brass Balls" is out! >The New York City Beer Guide | RAW Kinder's "CD EP" is out! > http://www.nycbeer.org | Home Office Records http://www.web-ho.com Zounds! Did you check out Ulrich's webpage at http://www2.rz.hu-berlin.de/~h0444vnd/os2.htm ? I had a quick look and he mentions what sounds like a similar problem: Some people report that drag'n'drop or moving files isn't working any more. I suspect this is related to changes to the new "File exists" dialog. Disable that dialog in "Workplace Shell". If the problem does not go away, mail me if you've found something interesting, but other than that, I don't know what the problem is. Let us know if his suggestion fixes it. Btw, for those who were a little worried about the ongoing status of Xfolder, there's cheering news -- he's working on its successor, "XWorkplace." PS: I *need* Three Brass Balls. Any chance there's a sample MP3 anywhere? -- Ray Tennenbaum '99 YZF-R6 readme@ http://www.ray-field.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: AT&T WorldNet Services (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net 08-Nov-99 20:44:22 To: All 09-Nov-99 03:31:28 Subj: Re: Pilot Desktop 1.0 From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum) rde@tavi.co.uk (Bob Eager) wrote: >On Mon, 8 Nov 1999 16:04:59, Cassio Roberto Pellegrim >wrote: > >> Of course, I want more details ... >> >> Coud you explain how did you installed it ?? > >I'll dig out the details and email them. > >Anyone else wants them...ask > Haven't got the Palm yet, but I'd be interested. Why not post'em here? -- Ray Tennenbaum '99 YZF-R6 readme@ http://www.ray-field.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: AT&T WorldNet Services (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: forgitaboutit@fake.com 08-Nov-99 22:10:27 To: All 09-Nov-99 03:31:28 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: David H. McCoy In article , nospam_evr@spam.net says... >On Mon, 08 Nov 1999 23:02:37 GMT, Mike Williams wrote: > >>Well, you could probably say that about most of us. I keep an eye on his posts >>because I keep hoping that Ominor will take him over again, but so far, no joy. > >Never trust on traitor on either side. > Listen to yourself. A traitor? To software? You are ill. -- --------------------------------------- David H. McCoy dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com --------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: OminorTech (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net 08-Nov-99 22:15:19 To: All 09-Nov-99 03:31:28 Subj: Re: Quicken 98 won't install From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum) tvoltagg@home.com wrote: >Does it have PC Banking? If I can guess at what that is, I'm fairly sure Sean's been working on adding online banking for the next release. -- Ray Tennenbaum '99 YZF-R6 readme@ http://www.ray-field.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: AT&T WorldNet Services (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: mckinnis@attglobal.net 08-Nov-99 20:22:10 To: All 09-Nov-99 03:31:28 Subj: Re: &emdash; vs. NS4.61 From: Chuck McKinnis Jeffery, thanks for the resource pointer, but where are codes 128-159? "Jeffrey S. Kobal" wrote: > > James Jones wrote: > > > Supposedly &emdash; gives one an em dash in HTML documents, but > > experimentation shows that NS 4.61 doesn't appear to understand it. > > Am I misspelling something (doubtful; I double checked)? If there > > really is a problem, is there a workaround? Thanks. > > I don't believe that is a correct symbol in HTML. The following > is a chart I've used for reference to the supported characters > and HTML codes within the Latin-1 charset, in the HTML 3.2 > standard (perhaps you'll find another character there that > would suffice for your needs): > > http://www.htmlhelp.com/reference/charset/latin1.gif > > Jeffrey S. Kobal > IBM Corporation -- Chuck McKinnis Senior Systems Engineer Denver Solutions Group, Inc. IBM Business Partner IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired) --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Denver Solutions Group (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashco... 08-Nov-99 23:03:20 To: All 09-Nov-99 03:31:28 Subj: Re: BOOTOS2 Message sender: yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashcom.net From: yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashcom.net In <3821948F.71297B36@us.ibm.com>, on 11/04/99 at 09:13 AM, Kenneth Kahn said: I finally tried it again this weekend. Last time was around FP6 or FP8, can't remember. System with FP12 did actually create a single disk, but wouldn't boot from it...even with IBMATAPI loaded. The previous problem was a broken FORMAT in OS/2. There were release notes stating not to use the command line FORMAT to format LS-120 disks. Even with FORMAT:NONE Bootos2 insisted on formatting the floppies. Still non-bootable LS-120 Roland >yyyc186.illegaltospam.at.flashcom.net wrote: >> When you do that it dies with a disk full error. It also won't place a PM >> on the A drive eventhough the drive is really 120MEG. >> >Run with the TRACE option and send me the resulting LOG file so I can see >what's going on. >Ken Kahn - IBM P/390 Software Development (and BOOTOS2 Author) Internet : >kenkahn@us.ibm.com > Lotus : Kenneth Kahn/Poughkeepsie/IBM@IBMUS > VM : kenkahn@ibmusm10 -- ----------------------------------------------------------- yyyc186.illegaltospam@flashcom.net To Respond delete ".illegaltospam" MR/2 Internet Cruiser 1.52 For a Microsoft free univers ----------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: mikelrob@flash.net 09-Nov-99 04:30:09 To: All 09-Nov-99 03:31:28 Subj: REXX unreachable? From: mikelrob@flash.net (Michael Robertson) I wrote about not being able to start several programs, Smack and CM2 a few days ago. It seems that REXX is not working. I copied the sample program from the REXX help and it just returns to the command line when I try to run it. I did try selectively reinstalling REXX but nothing changed. Any ideas about this out there? Michael Robertson ***Live simply, that others may simply live.*** --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: FlashNet Communications, http://www.flash.net (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: hamei@pacbell.net 09-Nov-99 05:10:04 To: All 09-Nov-99 03:31:29 Subj: Re: Can OS/2 users grow up and think like Linux users? From: hamei@pacbell.net In , raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum) writes: > >PS: I *need* Three Brass Balls. >-- hmm, maybe there's a Brass Donkey store near you ? Or there's always Jesse Helms, but since they started serving Viagra at the Cafeteria he may be using his . . . . >Ray Tennenbaum '99 YZF-R6 >readme@ http://www.ray-field.com -- h„rad ‘ngravv†d --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: SBC Internet Services (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com 09-Nov-99 06:43:16 To: All 09-Nov-99 03:31:29 Subj: Re: &emdash; vs. NS4.61 From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" Chuck McKinnis wrote: > Jeffery, thanks for the resource pointer, but where are codes 128-159? You're welcome, and it's "Jeffrey"... or just Jeff. :) As for the "missing" codes, look at the main document at that same website for an explanation: http://www.htmlhelp.com/reference/charset "ISO-8859-1 explicitly does not define displayable characters for positions 0-31 and 127-159, and the HTML standard does not allow those to be used for displayable characters. The only characters in this range that are used are 9, 10 and 13, which are tab, newline and carriage return respectively. If you attempt to display these invalid characters on your own system, you may find some characters displayed there, but please do not assume that other users will see the same thing (or even anything at all) on their systems." Jeffrey S. Kobal IBM Corporation --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: d.s.darrow@nvinet.com 08-Nov-99 23:05:29 To: All 09-Nov-99 03:31:29 Subj: Re: PC DOS 7 on Bootmanager From: "Doug Darrow" On Sat, 06 Nov 1999 23:00:02 -0500, Walter S. Rue wrote: >I wasn't clear. I meant to ask if PC DOS could possibly be installed in >a partition that is not C: ? I doubt I will install it at all if OS/2 >must be reinstalled (in another partition) just to make room for it. No, DOS cannot be installed on any other partition other than C: But there are two way that you COULD install DOS without installing OS/2 on another partition. 1) you could use Partition magic to shrink your current C: (OS/2) drive, then specify another primary part on the same disk, install DOS into it, and then specify both OSes in Boot Man. That way, whichever OS you chose on boot would automatically become C: and the other would be invisible. ...and 2) IF your current C: is FAT, you could install DOS onto the same drive, then run enough of OS/2's install to install Dual Boot which would allow you to choose whichever system you wanted to run at boot. The advantage to number 2 is that both OSes can exist on the same drive and you can also use OS/2's "Trapdoor" to run the very occasional DOS app that just will NOT run in OS/2's VDM DOS emulation. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: d.s.darrow@nvinet.com 08-Nov-99 23:13:24 To: All 09-Nov-99 05:19:24 Subj: Re: PC DOS 7 on Bootmanager From: "Doug Darrow" On Mon, 08 Nov 1999 20:39:11 -0500, Walter S. Rue wrote: >One other question: Does anyone know how large the partition should be? >I was thinking about 50mg, including a couple of small apps. But that >is only a guess. For DOS, I'd either go less than 32 megs - for the smallest possible block size (2K) thereby wasting the least amount of space - or else go with 125 megs (larger block size - 4 megs) which would allow enough room to install something useful to run in DOS (games?) But that begs the question, what do you want with DOS that you can't already run in an OS/2 VDM? (games?) --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com 09-Nov-99 07:56:09 To: All 09-Nov-99 05:19:24 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) On Sat, 6 Nov 1999 20:02:29, Nick Knight a Úcrit dans un message: > In , on 11/05/99 > at 03:37 PM, "/2 User" said: > > >>[Now, see, if ProNews came back alive we could get one more filter field, > >>to allow us to block any article containing one of the unspeakable strings > >>anywhere in the body.] > > >Now you just gave McCoy some bait to bash OS/2 for lack of application > >support;-) > > Nah, MR/2 can KILL on text (or complex set of text) contained anywhere in > an article, so there is at least one way, within OS/2, to do this :) > > No, I'm not trying to participate in this thread! Just testing on a > REXX-related filter problem. Without a doubt MR2's filters are more adaptable and more advanced (plus they do REXX) than ProNews. -- Good luck, Buddy Buddy Donnelly donnelly@tampabay.rr.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: RoadRunner - TampaBay (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com 09-Nov-99 07:57:00 To: All 09-Nov-99 05:19:24 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) On Fri, 5 Nov 1999 21:37:09, "/2 User" a Úcrit dans un message: > On Fri, 05 Nov 1999 20:28:55 GMT, Buddy Donnelly wrote: > > >[Now, see, if ProNews came back alive we could get one more filter field, > >to allow us to block any article containing one of the unspeakable strings > >anywhere in the body.] > > Now you just gave McCoy some bait to bash OS/2 for lack of application > support;-) > > Robert Donnelly (Are we related?) Aren't all Irish related? -- Good luck, Buddy Buddy Donnelly donnelly@tampabay.rr.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: RoadRunner - TampaBay (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: debu4335@dpnet.net 09-Nov-99 04:33:29 To: All 09-Nov-99 10:58:09 Subj: Re: Quicken 98 won't install From: Michael DeBusk "Michael W. Cocke" wrote: > >OK, just tried that (both things.) I get the same error: "The Win-OS/2* > >session does not support this application." Same thing either fullscreen > >or seamless. :( > > Is that the _exact_ error message? If so, hmmmm..... That's the _exact_ error message. > What video driver and mode do you have selected for OS/2? For WIN-os2? I use the Elsa Winner 2000/Office with 8MB RAM and driver level 1.06.00 at 800x600x16.7 million colors in OS/2. Same resolution in Win-OS/2. > Something sounds strange here. That isn't any of the 'standard' error > messages that I've ever seen out of Win-OS2. I agree. > Open a full screen win-os2 session, then try running the application > from the file manager (or desktop if you've configured for it). I got "This application requires a newer version of Win-OS/2." > >Host of the ILink Psychology and OS_Discuss conferences > > !?!?!?! > > My wife used to be the SIG-Admin, among other things, and I sysoped > the Central Core BBS and hosted the BASIC conference. ILink is still going. It isn't busy like in the BBS heyday, but it's still a great place. New HQ is at: http://www.fonix.org/public/ilink/index.html -- Mike DeBusk ÿ North East, Maryland USA ÿ Team OS/2 Host of the ILink Psychology and OS_Discuss conferences --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: ntr.net Corporation (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: letoured@nospam.net 09-Nov-99 04:11:10 To: All 09-Nov-99 10:58:09 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: letoured@nospam.net McCoy were you born an asshole or is it something you acquired? _____________ Ed Letourneau --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rsteiner@visi.com 09-Nov-99 05:03:24 To: All 09-Nov-99 10:58:09 Subj: Re: Quicken 98 won't install From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner) Here in comp.os.os2.apps, Michael DeBusk spake unto us, saying: >ILink is still going. It isn't busy like in the BBS heyday, but it's >still a great place. New HQ is at: Huh... I was active on ILink years ago as well (mainly in various shareware forums and places like TCS's SLiMeR support forum). Good to see it still lives! :-) -- -Rich Steiner >>>---> rsteiner@visi.com >>>---> Bloomington, MN OS/2 + BeOS + Linux + Solaris + Win95 + WinNT4 + FreeBSD + DOS + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-) Virus detected! P)our chicken soup on motherboard? --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: FIELDATA FORTRAN ENTHUSIASTS CLUB (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: dink@dontspamme.com 09-Nov-99 05:06:21 To: All 09-Nov-99 10:58:09 Subj: new utilties From: "dinkmeister" hi everyone! over the past few years, i've written many small utilities to make things a whole lot easier. recently i've decided to document and release all of these invaluable programs as freeware! check out the link 'neatutils' on my web page: http://dink.org - there's probably something for everyone here.. i've also fixed the bad link to my crazy techno song (.mp3) =) .. and, i've written a list of my all-time favorite sci-fi movies. thats right folks, lately i've had a lot of time on my hands! =) soon i'll document the recipe for my fameous burrito for when you get the 3am munchies.. =) --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: psychadelia (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: janswa@algonet.se 09-Nov-99 10:06:27 To: All 09-Nov-99 10:58:09 Subj: Re: os/2 under linux, win9x or NT From: janswa@algonet.se (Jan Swartling) On Mon, 8 Nov 1999 14:26:58, "Michael Wagner" wrote: > Hi folks, > > is there a possibility to run os/2 appl (32Bit). under linux, win9x or NT. > -Because I have a very big customer who has to provide the possibility to > run win32 and os/2 appl. on the same machine. > -OS/2 as desktop platform is death! I have this info from IBM directly. I > think there must be a lot of another companies with the same problem > > vmware dose not support os2 yet(if enough interested party are asking for > vmware will build in the os/2 support), > bochs doese also not support os2 (I've no statement from bochs at present). > .. > is there something else?. > Michael, You are saying running win32 and os/2 applications on the same machine. Have you considered installing both Win9x and Warp (and possibly also WinNT and Linux) on the same machine and through a boot manager choose which operating system you want to run.? Jan Swartling Blue Soft Sweden --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Blue Soft (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid 09-Nov-99 03:29:08 To: All 09-Nov-99 10:58:10 Subj: Re: Partition Magic 5.0 upgrade From: nospam@savebandwidth.invalid (John Thompson) In , "Hal Murray" writes: > I tried Partition Magic 4 on my OS/2 drive and it destroyed my >extended partition. So I went back to Partition Magic 3 text version. > >I don't expect they addresses the Os/2 incompatibility in Version 5. What sort of problems did you have? I've used Partition Magic v4 and v5 betas 2 and 3 on my HPFS and ext2 partitions without problems. -John (John.Thompson@attglobal.net) --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: The Crimson Permanent Assurance (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk 09-Nov-99 12:00:19 To: All 09-Nov-99 10:58:10 Subj: Re: PC DOS 7 on Bootmanager From: engs0011@sable.ox.ac.uk (Ian Johnston) osmo vuorio (osmo.vuorio@sonera.fi) wrote: : You can allways use the double primary partition scheme : with OS/2 bootmanager. There is one bad point, primaries : will not see eachother is this case. WinNT, which I have on a primary C: partition, is quite happy to see the other (HPFS) primary C: partition. Ian --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Oxford University, England (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rdohrenburg@hotmail.com 08-Nov-99 23:07:25 To: All 09-Nov-99 10:58:10 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: Robert Dohrenburg postmaster@[127.0.0.1] wrote: > > In <3824809F.38187E4E@hotmail.com>, on 11/06/99 > at 01:25 PM, Robert Dohrenburg said: > > >> I think this is a bit of a reach and a bit inappropriate. > >> > > >I just posted the definition from the dictonary. I took care not to make > >any additional comments. > > Hey, it's your conscience. > LOL. I hope I will be able to sleep tonight Robert, --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: EarthLink Network, Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: cmhall@umich.edu 09-Nov-99 13:32:17 To: All 09-Nov-99 13:50:28 Subj: Printing won't start from Win-OS2 From: cmhall@umich.edu (Chris Hall) I just installed an HP LJ 1100 and OS/2 printing works fine. DOS printing is fine. However, when printing from Win-OS2, the printer won't accept characters until it's "jostled", either by hitting the "Go" button (which also prints a test page) or by removing the paper from the tray (which at least changes a status). I've looked in the win.ini file and there's nothing obvious. Also, changing the lpt1 bios port parameters doesn't affect anything (normal vs epp). Right now it's just an annoyance. The problem only happens using the HP win3.1 driver on its CD. If I print to a postscript driver which funnels through Ghostscript, all is OK. If anyone knows what's happening, let me know. System is Warp4 FP11 DDfix1. Chris Hall (cmhall@umich.edu) Dept. of Geological Sciences, U. of Michigan "They use Microsoft Excel to plot their data. Sometimes they get the results they expect, sometimes they don't." from Microsoft TV commercial, 1999. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: khalsa@attglobal.net 09-Nov-99 10:29:00 To: All 09-Nov-99 13:50:28 Subj: Re: Quicken 98 won't install--Still From: Satnam Singh Tried the enhanced mode, maxed XMS. Even tried going back to VGA wondering if my Matrox 2.31 driver was tipping off Quicken as to the presence of OS/2. No help; still get "wrong windows version." If anyone cares to take a stab, below Mikes comments I've printed out my Winos2 fullscreen session settings, under which I've attempted to install Quicken 98. I'd appreciate any help. Satnam Singh "Michael W. Cocke" wrote: > I've been using Quicken 98 on Win-Os2 since it came out, and I just want > to bring up a couple of things... > > On Sun, 07 Nov 1999 16:16:06 GMT, jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net wrote: > > >In <38251A3B.4C1E1FF9@dpnet.net>, Michael DeBusk writes: > >>Satnam Singh wrote: > >> > >>> I get "Wrong Windows version" when I try to install Quicken 98 under > >>> Winos2. I'm only interested in running a checkbook, and accounting for > >>> credit cards/assets; > > Have you set the win_run mode to 'enhanced compatibility' in your > session settings? You need to. You'll also want to set XMS memory > limit to 16384. > > >>> don't care abount downloading transactions via internet access, etc. > >> > >>You should. The only way to get updates and bugfixes to Quicken98 is to > >>use MSIE. > >> > > Incorrect. Actually, Intuit will be quite happy to send you a CD with > the latest fixes - they're quite used to it, since the download method > usually fails. > > >I have Warp 4 here, and I have several Win 3.1 programs on my > >system which are running fine, including MS Office 4.1, Word Perfect > >6.1, Timeline 6.1, and Quicken 98. > > > >I can remember getting those messages once in a while, but was able to > >eliminat them by tweaking the settings in the settings notebook. Mine > >are run in a full screen WINOS2 session, and they are all set for enhanced > >mode. After that, I make sure they have enough memory to run. If they > >have trouble installing, try to tweak the Program Manager settings for the > >WINOS2 session before the install. > > Good point - you MUST run quicken in a full screen session. YOu must > also INSTALL it in a full screen session. > > >After installing the programs, I have them all set up on individual > >icons so that they cn be started directly from an OS/2 folder. > > > >If I remember corectly, the messages being observed above were MS's > >way of trying to defeat OS/2 installs in the early days. > > > >----------------------------------------------------------- > >Fred Springfield for e-mail remove 'xxx' > >Plymouth, MN > >----------------------------------------------------------- > > To reply delete "deletehere." from return email address p=WIN_RUN_MODE t=5 v=321 3.1 Enhanced Compatibility d=1 On p=WIN_DDE t=5 v=1 On d=1 On p=WIN_CLIPBOARD t=5 v=1 On d=1 On p=WIN_ATM t=0 v=1 On d=0 Off p=AUDIO_ADAPTER_SHARING t=2 v=Required d=1 On p=DOS_AUTOEXEC t=3 v=G:\DOSAUTOE.BAT d=0 Off p=DOS_BACKGROUND_EXECUTION t=0 v=1 On d=1 On p=DOS_BREAK t=0 v=0 Off d=1 On p=DOS_DEVICE t=4 v=G:\TCPIP\BIN\VDOSTCP.SYS d=1 On p=DOS_FCBS t=1 v=16 d=1 On p=DOS_FCBS_KEEP t=1 v=8 d=1 On p=DOS_FILES t=1 v=30 d=0 Off p=DOS_HIGH t=0 v=1 On d=0 Off p=DOS_LASTDRIVE t=3 v=Z d=1 On p=DOS_RMSIZE t=1 v=640 d=1 On p=DOS_SHELL t=3 v=G:\OS2\MDOS\COMMAND.COM G:\OS2\MDOS d=1 On p=DOS_STARTUP_DRIVE t=3 v= d=1 On p=DOS_UMB t=0 v=1 On d=0 Off p=DOS_VERSION t=4 v=DCJSS02.EXE,3,40,255 v=DFIA0MOD.SYS,3,40,255 v=DXMA0MOD.SYS,3,40,255 v=EXCEL.EXE,10,10,4 v=IBMCACHE.COM,3,40,255 v=IBMCACHE.SYS,3,40,255 v=ISAM.EXE,3,40,255 v=ISAM2.EXE,3,40,255 v=ISQL.EXE,3,40,255 v=MSD.EXE,5,00,255 v=NET3.COM,3,40,255 v=NETX.COM,4,00,255 v=NETX.EXE,5,00,255 v=PSCPG.COM,3,40,255 v=SAF.EXE,3,40,255 v=WIN200.BIN,10,10,4 d=1 On p=DPMI_DOS_API t=2 v=AUTO d=1 On p=DPMI_MEMORY_LIMIT t=1 v=64 d=0 Off p=DPMI_NETWORK_BUFF_SIZE t=1 v=8 d=1 On p=EMS_FRAME_LOCATION t=2 v=NONE d=0 Off p=EMS_HIGH_OS_MAP_REGION t=1 v=0 d=1 On p=EMS_LOW_OS_MAP_REGION t=1 v=384 d=1 On p=EMS_MEMORY_LIMIT t=1 v=2048 d=1 On p=HW_NOSOUND t=0 v=0 Off d=1 On p=HW_ROM_TO_RAM t=0 v=1 On d=0 Off p=HW_TIMER t=0 v=0 Off d=1 On p=IDLE_SECONDS t=1 v=0 d=1 On p=IDLE_SENSITIVITY t=1 v=75 d=1 On p=INT_DURING_IO t=0 v=0 Off d=1 On p=KBD_ALTHOME_BYPASS t=0 v=1 On d=0 Off p=KBD_BUFFER_EXTEND t=0 v=1 On d=1 On p=KBD_CTRL_BYPASS t=2 v=CTRL_ESC d=0 Off p=KBD_RATE_LOCK t=0 v=0 Off d=1 On p=MEM_EXCLUDE_REGIONS t=3 v= d=1 On p=MEM_INCLUDE_REGIONS t=3 v= d=1 On p=MOUSE_EXCLUSIVE_ACCESS t=0 v=0 Off d=1 On p=PRINT_SEPARATE_OUTPUT t=0 v=1 On d=1 On p=PRINT_TIMEOUT t=1 v=15 d=1 On p=SESSION_PRIORITY t=1 v=1 d=1 On p=SIO_Allow_Access_COM1 t=0 v=1 On d=1 On p=SIO_Allow_Access_COM2 t=0 v=1 On d=1 On p=SIO_Allow_Access_COM3 t=0 v=1 On d=1 On p=SIO_Allow_Access_COM4 t=0 v=1 On d=1 On p=SIO_Idle_Sensitivity t=1 v=100 d=1 On p=SIO_Mode_DTR t=2 v=No Change at OPEN or CLOSE d=1 On p=SIO_Mode_FIFO_Load_Count t=2 v=16 d=1 On p=SIO_Mode_IDSR t=2 v=Ignore DSR During Receive d=1 On p=SIO_Mode_OCTS t=2 v=HandShake Signal, as in RTS/CTS d=1 On p=SIO_Mode_ODSR t=2 v=Ignore DSR During Transmit d=1 On p=SIO_Mode_RTS t=2 v=HandShake Signal, as in RTS/CTS d=1 On p=SIO_Mode_XON/XOFF t=2 v=No XON/XOFF flow control by SIO d=1 On p=SIO_Screen_Sync_Kludge t=0 v=0 Off d=1 On p=SIO_Share_Access_With_OS/2 t=0 v=1 On d=1 On p=SIO_Virtualize_16550A t=0 v=1 On d=1 On p=SIO_Virtualize_COM_Ports t=0 v=1 On d=1 On p=VIDEO_8514A_XGA_IOTRAP t=0 v=0 Off d=0 Off p=VIDEO_FASTPASTE t=0 v=0 Off d=1 On p=VIDEO_MODE_RESTRICTION t=2 v=NONE d=1 On p=VIDEO_ONDEMAND_MEMORY t=0 v=1 On d=1 On p=VIDEO_RETRACE_EMULATION t=0 v=0 Off d=1 On p=VIDEO_ROM_EMULATION t=0 v=1 On d=1 On p=VIDEO_SWITCH_NOTIFICATION t=0 v=1 On d=0 Off p=VIDEO_WINDOW_REFRESH t=1 v=1 d=1 On p=XMS_HANDLES t=1 v=32 d=1 On p=XMS_MEMORY_LIMIT t=1 v=16384 d=0 Off p=XMS_MINIMUM_HMA t=1 v=0 d=1 On --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: ralbers@dccnet.com 09-Nov-99 15:44:10 To: All 09-Nov-99 13:50:28 Subj: Re: Accounting application From: ralbers@dccnet.com Take a look at NetLedger. This is GREAT system, now you can do your accounting from ANY computer with internet access, never have to worry about data backup, no more buying app upgrades, only a small nominal monthly fee to use - and soon will be integrated into e-business web sites so that some of the input will already be done for you. I really like it! On Mon, 8 Nov 1999 16:28:21, "Roberto F. Salomon" wrote: > I am looking for an accounting application for a small/medium sized business. > Does anyone know of a true OS/2 app to do the job? > > --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: IOFFVS@DropThis.PoBox.COM 09-Nov-99 16:21:24 To: All 09-Nov-99 13:50:28 Subj: Bootable disk with Networking and Peer From: IOFFVS@DropThis.PoBox.COM (Frank V. Schubert) I am wondering if anyone can assist me. I have a LAN here that consists of a Server and several workstations. I use BA/2 for my backup to tape. BA/2 runs on the Server and backs up the server and all workstations to the tape drive on the Server. My problem is if one of the workstations fails, I will need to be able to boot something from diskette that will connect to the LAN so that I can run BA/2 to restore the drives to the workstation. Now, I have seen several posts that indicate I should run ThinLaps to put networking onto the diskettes. However, this doesn't seem to me to be enough. It occurs to me that I would actually need to have PEER installed. To that end, I have used BOOTOS2 to build a set of bootable disks that contain networking. I have added a 3rd diskette that contains the LAN Requestor code, I think. However, when after booting up and getting the OS/2 prompt, I then issue the NET START REQUESTER and this fails with a message indicating that a file could not be found. The problem is that it does not identify what file. Am I going about this the wrong way? I am trying to basically setup a bootable set of diskettes that will bring a workstation up in a mode that allows it to make it's hard drives accessible to the server over the network. That way, I can just crank up BA/2 and have him restores files directly to the hard drives. Maybe I need to do something else? Any thoughts? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- @ Triangle Systems INC. / IOF Tech Support - Frank V. Schubert @ @ IOF Web page: ptth://com.triangle-systems.www(reversed)@ ---------------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Triangle Systems, Inc (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: howard.wong@card-plus-ca.com 08-Nov-99 09:01:25 To: All 09-Nov-99 14:42:23 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: Howard Wong I'll do just that, as I nauseate at the sight of "David H. McCoy" anywhere in a message. I sincerely think that the more you talk about Mr. McCoy, whether positively or negatively, the more he enjoys it, as it seems to me he desperately needs others' attention. So let us put this thread to rest. In general, I suggest we all restrain from responding to Mr. McCoy's non-constructive postings (if they are constructive and do add value to the topic at hand, then by all means continue the dialogue) and put our collective knowledge and skills to better use in helping other people or engage in constructive discussions. Cheers, Howard Wong Bob Germer wrote: > > For some time I have had a watch killing all incoming messages from > McCoy.I see from many replies that he is still spreading lies here on > behalf of MicroSlop. > > For those who don't know, this is a very, very disturbed individual who > needs to be locked in a padded cell and forcefed the medications he > refuses to take. Until then, I suggest you apply a kill filter to keep him > from his wasteful activities. > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------- > Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: bobg@Pics.com > Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 12 > MR/2 Ice Registration Number 67 > Aut Pax Aut Bellum > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Card Plus Consultants Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca 08-Nov-99 15:00:02 To: All 09-Nov-99 14:42:23 Subj: Re: CD-RW for OS2 From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca (Alex Taylor) On Sun, 07 Nov 1999 14:58:54 GMT, A. Willard Reese wrote: > I'm considering buying a Yamaha 6x4x16 internal SCSI-2 CD-RW kit with > an Adaptec PCI SCSI interface card to run on my Warp 4.0, fixpak 11, > system. Can anyone tell me their experience with such a setup? How > about drivers for OS2? What problems have been encountered, etc? The > price is right on this combination but it's no good to me if it won't > run in OS2. I used my 6416s to cut a CD in Warp (fp9) this very morning. :) My SCSI adapter is a Mylex BT-958, however. As long as the SCSI card is supported by OS/2 there should be no problem. Pretty much any SCSI CDRW should work. You just need the SCSI adapter driver and an ASPI router driver, plus software. CDRecord/2 is free software, and works fine with SCSI CDRW's, although it's not all that easy to use (command-line, although some crude PM front ends are available). Includes mkisofs and instructions for installing the ASPI router. RSJ is basically your only other option (and your only option, period, if you have an IDE CDRW). It's supposed to be really nice, easy to use, and powerful. And also very expensive. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Alex Taylor BA - CIS - University of Guelph alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex ----------------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: @Home Network Canada (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: howard.wong@card-plus-ca.com 08-Nov-99 10:06:25 To: All 09-Nov-99 14:42:23 Subj: Re: PC DOS 7 on Bootmanager From: Howard Wong There is a very simple solution to what you want to do: PowerQuest Corp.'s Partition Magic. With Partition Magic, you can re-size any existing partition on your drive, either expanding or shrinking. This is all done without having to uninstall or re-install any thing. Be sure to make a back up of the drives that you are going to change, not that the program may goof (it may, but my experience so far is very positive) but from electrical glitches etc. that may screw up your file system. After making enough room on your drive, assuming you want to keep OS/2 on a C: drive, you can ask Partition Magic to create a new primary partition for PC DOS 7. In this way, you'll actually have two C: drives, and Bootmanager will only activate the one that you choose to boot into, and disable the other. The down side is one OS cannot see the other partition. Similar operations apply if you want other arrangements, such as OS/2 on a D: in an extended partition. After you've created the new C:, run FDISK in OS/2 to add it to Bootmanager's list. You don't have to install PC DOS 7 before doing this. While you're at it, you may want to consider creating a extended partition for the data that you want to share between the two OS's. The logical drive contained in this partition will be by default a FAT16 partition. You can go further by creating an HPFS logical partition for OS/2's use to take advantage of the file system's capability, but be sure it is put at the end of the partition. In this way, your FAT logic partition's driver letter remain the same for both OS's and will make life a lot easier. I have used Partition Magic many times and it is truly a labour saver. With it, I have configured my system to host DOS, Win 95, Warp 4, and soon Linux on my primary drive, each in its own primary partition, and, on the slave drive, Warp 3 in a primary partition, and all application and data files in logical drives in an extended partition. As for assigning a specific drive letter to the CD-ROM, I haven't done it but the only way that I think can achieve that in Warp 4 is to go to the Properties of the Drive folder, then go to the Reserved tab, and mark out all the drive letters listed there up to G. That will force the OS to use H as the CD-ROM's drive letter as it is the first one that's available. I didn't learn about this until it's too late. May I suggest you to go further, and reserve all the drive letters up to, say, Y, so your CD-ROM will be X:. This gives your system room to grow and flexibility to rearrange your drive's structure in the future without having to "bump" the drive letter of the CD-ROM or whatever other non-HD devices that you care to add in future, and therefore muck up all references to the CD-ROM. Hope this has helped. Howard Wong "Walter S. Rue" wrote: > > The User's Guide says that PC DOS must be installed on C:, implying that > I would have to reinstall OS/2 on some other partition first. > > Is there some way I can set the (CD) install to use, say, H: instead? I > assume that the Bootmanager hookup would be no problem in any case. > > Thanks in advance. > > -Walter --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Card Plus Consultants Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca 08-Nov-99 15:11:15 To: All 09-Nov-99 14:42:23 Subj: Re: Theta Band Software announces the distribution of MMPack through M From: alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca (Alex Taylor) On Mon, 08 Nov 1999 14:32:45 +1300, Aaron Lawrence wrote: > > Theta Band Software's Multimedia Pack for OS/2 is now available for > > ordering through Mensys at http://www.mensys.nl . > > I had a look at this, and it's cool, but the things in it aren't really > compelling to me. There are more pressing problems with MMOS/2 such as the > lack of much PCI soundcard support. IMHO. My main issue with MMOS/2 is the broken mixer system. If they could fix that (REALLY fix it, not just work around it like aMixer et al), I'd pay for it! As it is, it causes me no end of frustration when all the damn volume settings reset themselves after every event. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Alex Taylor BA - CIS - University of Guelph alex@eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca http://eddie.cis.uoguelph.ca/~alex ----------------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: @Home Network Canada (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rubbe@ibm.net 08-Nov-99 13:04:29 To: All 09-Nov-99 14:42:23 Subj: Re: Pilot Desktop 1.0 From: Cassio Roberto Pellegrim Of course, I want more details ... Coud you explain how did you installed it ?? Thanks ... Cassio R Pellegrim CasRob@br.ibm.com Bob Eager wrote: > On Wed, 3 Nov 1999 20:29:09, Cassio Roberto Pellegrim > wrote: > > > Is there anybody that could run PILOT DESKTOP 1.0 at WINOS2 ?? > > I have been running it for about 2 years...on WIN32S 1.25....on > WINOS2. > > Ask me if you'd like more details. > > -- > Bob Eager > rde at tavi.co.uk > PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2, > 8580*6, > 8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT.. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: IBM Austin (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: reiknir@my-deja.com 08-Nov-99 15:12:16 To: All 09-Nov-99 14:42:23 Subj: Re: Can OS/2 users grow up and think like Linux users? From: reiknir@my-deja.com In article <38226a8d$0$97648@news.voyager.net>, fgearhart@voyager.net wrote: > On Sat, 22 Jan 2000 14:33:19, raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net > (Raphael Tennenbaum) wrote: > > > Really? I've been running OD1.5 since it came out, and kinda > suspected it caused some instability, but was never certain. > Especially since I couldn't directly attribute any 'hangs' to OD. > Does it really cause instability problems? Is it better in OD2.0? > > Fritz > > No, OD 2 is buggy as hell, I think 1,5 is better if anything (with the fixpacks at the least). There is definetly something wrong if your OS/2 system is unstable, I run a few systems myself, there is quite a difference between protected mode only and Winos2 enabled systems in stability but parts of that seem to be drivers. On my own home system has a 6 year old OS/2 setup on it, since I changed it from a fullpack to a protected mode only some 3 years ago it has not crashed and oddly enough all the problems that I attributed to the SIQ dissapeared, note that I have swapped motherboards and HD at the least 6 times in that time (just copied the partitions). The only unstability I get is that the WPS resets itself once or twice a month, but the programs that are running are unaffected so this is more of an annoyance than a problem. I do take care in choosing components for this system though, especially the cards (the motherboards and processor have caused no problems) and update the drivers regularily. There are also 2 OS/2 based servers here, one is an old v3 server and the other is just Warp 3 pressed into service when I could not afford another server license, these 2 are more stable than either the BSD variants or Linux, in fact the only thing that is as good or better is netware, the current trend away from these 2 workhorse OS's towards Linux and NT, just makes me sick, especially since I have to maintain the damn setups for my clients. Why people decide on an os first and then talk to the techs continues to baffles me.... I also teach a few evening classes a month for a local linux school, if someone out there thinks Linux script kiddies show a "grown up" attitude or behaviour in any way, they obviusly have not met them :) I do in fact I think all the deranged team os/2 members that used to go Serdar Argic all ower the usenet some years back, are all linux users now ;-) Think Ill stay childish and continue using what works, Ill try BeOs as soon as there is a torelable Modula/Oberon compiler for it take care Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: michael.wagner@pcservices.at 08-Nov-99 15:26:29 To: All 09-Nov-99 14:42:23 Subj: os/2 under linux, win9x or NT From: "Michael Wagner" Hi folks, is there a possibility to run os/2 appl (32Bit). under linux, win9x or NT. -Because I have a very big customer who has to provide the possibility to run win32 and os/2 appl. on the same machine. -OS/2 as desktop platform is death! I have this info from IBM directly. I think there must be a lot of another companies with the same problem vmware dose not support os2 yet(if enough interested party are asking for vmware will build in the os/2 support), bochs doese also not support os2 (I've no statement from bochs at present). . is there something else?. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Daeumling @ IS Internet Services GmbH (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: larijani@arrow.utias.utoronto.ca 08-Nov-99 16:00:16 To: All 09-Nov-99 14:42:23 Subj: Re: GRADD: was Re: warp 3 & 4 install From: larijani@arrow.utias.utoronto.ca (Rambod Larijani) Thanks for the explanation. Since I don't have a TV card I think it would be OK to just use the regular driver instead. Rambod In article , lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) wrote: > >The GRADD model drivers support "GRADD extension drivers" that >can implement special functionality that is not available in the >standard driver or video card hardware. The Hauppauge Wincast/TV >drivers have a GRADD extension driver VCAFILT that provides the >TV card with the capability of placing the digitized TV picture into >the >video cards RAM and instructing the video driver to use that portion >of RAM to draw the picture on the screen. > >The placing of the TV picture in the video card RAM is done >by the TV card hardware and does not cost any (well very few) >CPU cycles. The quality of the TV picture drawing is much better >than that achieved using DIVE (DIrect Video Extensions) and >unlike DIVE does not use 40 to 50% of the CPU on a Pentium 400 >processor. > >The GRADD extension driver will work with any video card >supported by the main GRADD video driver as long as the >card has enough RAM for the TV picture. > >The SDD/2 drivers are GRADD based and support a large >number of video cards. I've used the SDD/2 driver with two >cards (Matrox G400 and ATI 3D Rage IIC) and the Hauppauge >VCAFILT driver. > >The technology would also be suited to providing low CPU overhead >display of MPEG video given that MPEG decoder hardware >is present that is capable of placing the decoder's digitized video >output directly in the video card RAM. The RealMagic Hollwood >MPEG DVD video decoders and the Creative Labs DXR2 and >DXR3 DVD video decoders can only achieve equivalent low >CPU usage under Win98 by using a hardware driven analog >video overlay, where the cards block out a portion of the --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: University of Toronto (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nospam@nospam.noway.com 08-Nov-99 11:28:10 To: All 09-Nov-99 14:42:23 Subj: Accounting application From: "Roberto F. Salomon" I am looking for an accounting application for a small/medium sized business. Does anyone know of a true OS/2 app to do the job? --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: nospam (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jstucklex@attglobal.net 09-Nov-99 12:42:00 To: All 09-Nov-99 16:00:00 Subj: Re: VAC++ debugger storage monitor: how to search for specific data? From: Jerry Stuckle Arie, Sorry, you can't search for specific data - I assume part of the reason could be that memory is not necessarily contiguous in OS/2, even with virtual addresses. A trick I've used quite often is to set a pointer to the data I want to monitor, then stop when the pointer is set. This will give me the address of the data, and I can then set a breakpoint on the change. Arie Kazachin wrote: > > Hello! > > I'm attempting to run some program from the debugger found in > VAC++ 3.0. In the "storage" monitor window, there is no option > to search for a specific data, there is only address which I can > enter for the window to scroll to. I need to find some known data > (a string) and to set a breakpoint when it'll be changed. But I don't > know, how to find an address of a known data: I can't find such a > trivial option as "search for ..." that is found in many other debuggers. > It's almost unthinkable that such a trivial option doesn't exists in > VAC++ debugger. Maybe I'm missing something obvious? > > THANKS IN ADVANCE FOR ANY HELP ! ! ! > ****************************************************************************** > * Arie Kazachin, Israel, e-mail: ariek@attglobal3.14159265358979323846.net * > ****************************************************************************** > NOTE: before replying, leave only letters in my domain-name. Sorry, SPAM trap. -- ======================================================= To reply, delete the "x" from my email address Jerry Stuckle jstucklex@attglobal.net JDS Computer Training Corp. Sun Certified Java Programmer VisualAge/Java Certified Advanced Technical Expert VisualAge/C++ Certified Developer ======================================================= --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: JDS Computer Training Corp. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: steve53_remove_this@earthlink.net 09-Nov-99 09:13:05 To: All 09-Nov-99 16:00:00 Subj: Re: Linkwiz From: steve53_remove_this@earthlink.net In <3823d43c$1$qnir$mr2ice@read.news.global.net.uk>, on 11/06/99 at 07:03 AM, dave@david-lister.co.uk said: >I have used it regularly since I went to OS/2 several years ago now and >rely on it entirely since I transfer files between my desktop & notebook >every day. Generally, I find it OK, but it has problems - the main one >being PCX themselves! Their support is, in my experience, non-existant. In my experience, they were reasonably good, until they died. They maintained and updated the OS/2 version almost in parallel with the others versions. This is more than can be said for many other vendors. >Anyway, the reason for my query now is that I have version 2.52 which >dates back to 1996 and I don't think that it is Y2K compliant. Lately >I've tried to go to PCX's website and can't connect. Does anyone know if >they are still in business?? If not, does anyone have experience of a >good alternative product? I also used Linkright for a while but that >died too! I'm pretty sure they are gone. 2.52 is rather old. The last release was 3.04 which corrected at lot of problems with 2.52, and introduced some new ones. :( Why do you think 2,52 is not Y2K compliant? Have you tested it? Steven -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Steven Levine MR2/ICE #10183 Warp4/FP11 --------------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: EarthLink Network, Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: debu4335@dpnet.net 09-Nov-99 13:41:04 To: All 09-Nov-99 16:00:00 Subj: Re: Quicken 98 won't install--Still From: Michael DeBusk This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------6AAF7F12A677798A696C3855 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Satnam Singh wrote: > If anyone cares to take a stab, below Mikes comments I've printed out my Winos2 > fullscreen session settings, under which I've attempted to install Quicken 98. Here's mine, under which Quicken98 works very well. -- Mike DeBusk ÿ North East, Maryland USA ÿ Team OS/2 Host of the ILink Psychology and OS_Discuss conferences --------------6AAF7F12A677798A696C3855 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="quicken.set" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="quicken.set" s=DCF i=Control Center - Settings p=WIN_RUN_MODE t=5 v=320 3.1 Standard d=0 Off p=WIN_DDE t=5 v=1 On d=1 On p=WIN_CLIPBOARD t=5 v=1 On d=1 On p=WIN_ATM t=0 v=0 Off d=1 On p=AUDIO_ADAPTER_SHARING t=2 v=Required d=1 On p=DOS_AUTOEXEC t=3 v=C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT d=1 On p=DOS_BACKGROUND_EXECUTION t=0 v=1 On d=1 On p=DOS_BREAK t=0 v=0 Off d=1 On p=DOS_DEVICE t=4 v=C:\TCPIP\BIN\VDOSTCP.SYS d=1 On p=DOS_FCBS t=1 v=4 d=1 On p=DOS_FCBS_KEEP t=1 v=2 d=1 On p=DOS_FILES t=1 v=40 d=1 On p=DOS_HIGH t=0 v=0 Off d=1 On p=DOS_LASTDRIVE t=3 v=Z d=1 On p=DOS_RMSIZE t=1 v=640 d=1 On p=DOS_SHELL t=3 v=C:\4dos602\4DOS.COM C:\4dos602\ d=1 On p=DOS_STARTUP_DRIVE t=3 v= d=1 On p=DOS_UMB t=0 v=0 Off d=1 On p=DOS_VERSION t=4 v=DCJSS02.EXE,3,40,255 v=DFIA0MOD.SYS,3,40,255 v=DXMA0MOD.SYS,3,40,255 v=EXCEL.EXE,10,10,4 v=IBMCACHE.COM,3,40,255 v=IBMCACHE.SYS,3,40,255 v=ISAM.EXE,3,40,255 v=ISAM2.EXE,3,40,255 v=ISQL.EXE,3,40,255 v=MSD.EXE,5,00,255 v=NET3.COM,3,40,255 v=NETX.COM,4,00,255 v=NETX.EXE,5,00,255 v=PSCPG.COM,3,40,255 v=SAF.EXE,3,40,255 v=WIN200.BIN,10,10,4 d=1 On p=DPMI_DOS_API t=2 v=AUTO d=1 On p=DPMI_MEMORY_LIMIT t=1 v=64 d=0 Off p=DPMI_NETWORK_BUFF_SIZE t=1 v=8 d=1 On p=EMS_FRAME_LOCATION t=2 v=AUTO d=1 On p=EMS_HIGH_OS_MAP_REGION t=1 v=0 d=1 On p=EMS_LOW_OS_MAP_REGION t=1 v=384 d=1 On p=EMS_MEMORY_LIMIT t=1 v=0 d=0 Off p=GAME_DIGITAL_RESPONSE t=0 v=1 On d=1 On p=GAME_DIRECT_ACCESS t=0 v=0 Off d=1 On p=HW_NOSOUND t=0 v=0 Off d=1 On p=HW_ROM_TO_RAM t=0 v=0 Off d=1 On p=HW_TIMER t=0 v=0 Off d=1 On p=IDLE_SECONDS t=1 v=0 d=1 On p=IDLE_SENSITIVITY t=1 v=75 d=1 On p=INT_DURING_IO t=0 v=0 Off d=0 Off p=KBD_ALTHOME_BYPASS t=0 v=1 On d=0 Off p=KBD_BUFFER_EXTEND t=0 v=1 On d=1 On p=KBD_CTRL_BYPASS t=2 v=NONE d=1 On p=KBD_RATE_LOCK t=0 v=0 Off d=1 On p=MEM_EXCLUDE_REGIONS t=3 v= d=1 On p=MEM_INCLUDE_REGIONS t=3 v= d=1 On p=MOUSE_EXCLUSIVE_ACCESS t=0 v=0 Off d=0 Off p=PRINT_SEPARATE_OUTPUT t=0 v=1 On d=1 On p=PRINT_TIMEOUT t=1 v=15 d=1 On p=SESSION_PRIORITY t=1 v=1 d=1 On p=SIO_Allow_Access_COM1 t=0 v=1 On d=1 On p=SIO_Allow_Access_COM2 t=0 v=1 On d=1 On p=SIO_Allow_Access_COM3 t=0 v=1 On d=1 On p=SIO_Allow_Access_COM4 t=0 v=1 On d=1 On p=SIO_Idle_Sensitivity t=1 v=100 d=1 On p=SIO_Mode_DTR t=2 v=No Change at OPEN or CLOSE d=1 On p=SIO_Mode_FIFO_Load_Count t=2 v=16 d=1 On p=SIO_Mode_IDSR t=2 v=Ignore DSR During Receive d=1 On p=SIO_Mode_OCTS t=2 v=HandShake Signal, as in RTS/CTS d=1 On p=SIO_Mode_ODSR t=2 v=Ignore DSR During Transmit d=1 On p=SIO_Mode_RTS t=2 v=HandShake Signal, as in RTS/CTS d=1 On p=SIO_Mode_XON/XOFF t=2 v=No XON/XOFF flow control by SIO d=1 On p=SIO_Screen_Sync_Kludge t=0 v=0 Off d=1 On p=SIO_Share_Access_With_OS/2 t=0 v=1 On d=1 On p=SIO_Virtualize_16550A t=0 v=1 On d=1 On p=SIO_Virtualize_COM_Ports t=0 v=1 On d=1 On p=VIDEO_8514A_XGA_IOTRAP t=0 v=0 Off d=0 Off p=VIDEO_FASTPASTE t=0 v=0 Off d=1 On p=VIDEO_MODE_RESTRICTION t=2 v=NONE d=1 On p=VIDEO_ONDEMAND_MEMORY t=0 v=1 On d=1 On p=VIDEO_RETRACE_EMULATION t=0 v=1 On d=0 Off p=VIDEO_ROM_EMULATION t=0 v=1 On d=1 On p=VIDEO_SWITCH_NOTIFICATION t=0 v=1 On d=0 Off p=VIDEO_WINDOW_REFRESH t=1 v=1 d=1 On p=XMS_HANDLES t=1 v=32 d=1 On p=XMS_MEMORY_LIMIT t=1 v=2048 d=1 On p=XMS_MINIMUM_HMA t=1 v=0 d=1 On --------------6AAF7F12A677798A696C3855-- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: ntr.net Corporation (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: debu4335@dpnet.net 09-Nov-99 13:41:28 To: All 09-Nov-99 16:00:00 Subj: Re: Quicken 98 won't install From: Michael DeBusk Richard Steiner wrote: > Huh... I was active on ILink years ago as well (mainly in various > shareware forums and places like TCS's SLiMeR support forum). > > Good to see it still lives! :-) It'd be even more lively if you'd return. :) -- Mike DeBusk ÿ North East, Maryland USA ÿ Team OS/2 Host of the ILink Psychology and OS_Discuss conferences --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: ntr.net Corporation (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net 09-Nov-99 19:04:15 To: All 09-Nov-99 16:00:00 Subj: Re: Quicken 98 won't install--Still From: jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net In <38283DBC.95E7CC22@attglobal.net>, Satnam Singh writes: >Tried the enhanced mode, maxed XMS. Even tried going back to VGA wondering if my >Matrox 2.31 driver was tipping off Quicken as to the presence of OS/2. No help; >still get "wrong windows version." > >If anyone cares to take a stab, below Mikes comments I've printed out my Winos2 >fullscreen session settings, under which I've attempted to install Quicken 98. > >I'd appreciate any help. >Satnam Singh > >"Michael W. Cocke" wrote: >p=WIN_RUN_MODE >t=5 >v=321 3.1 Enhanced Compatibility >d=1 On > >p=WIN_DDE >t=5 >v=1 On >d=1 On > >p=WIN_CLIPBOARD >t=5 >v=1 On >d=1 On > >p=WIN_ATM >t=0 >v=1 On >d=0 Off > >p=AUDIO_ADAPTER_SHARING >t=2 >v=Required >d=1 On > >p=DOS_AUTOEXEC >t=3 >v=G:\DOSAUTOE.BAT >d=0 Off > >p=DOS_BACKGROUND_EXECUTION >t=0 >v=1 On >d=1 On > >p=DOS_BREAK >t=0 >v=0 Off >d=1 On > >p=DOS_DEVICE >t=4 >v=G:\TCPIP\BIN\VDOSTCP.SYS >d=1 On > >p=DOS_FCBS >t=1 >v=16 >d=1 On > >p=DOS_FCBS_KEEP >t=1 >v=8 >d=1 On > >p=DOS_FILES >t=1 >v=30 >d=0 Off > >p=DOS_HIGH >t=0 >v=1 On >d=0 Off > >p=DOS_LASTDRIVE >t=3 >v=Z >d=1 On > >p=DOS_RMSIZE >t=1 >v=640 >d=1 On > >p=DOS_SHELL >t=3 >v=G:\OS2\MDOS\COMMAND.COM G:\OS2\MDOS >d=1 On > >p=DOS_STARTUP_DRIVE >t=3 >v= >d=1 On > >p=DOS_UMB >t=0 >v=1 On >d=0 Off > >p=DOS_VERSION >t=4 >v=DCJSS02.EXE,3,40,255 >v=DFIA0MOD.SYS,3,40,255 >v=DXMA0MOD.SYS,3,40,255 >v=EXCEL.EXE,10,10,4 >v=IBMCACHE.COM,3,40,255 >v=IBMCACHE.SYS,3,40,255 >v=ISAM.EXE,3,40,255 >v=ISAM2.EXE,3,40,255 >v=ISQL.EXE,3,40,255 >v=MSD.EXE,5,00,255 >v=NET3.COM,3,40,255 >v=NETX.COM,4,00,255 >v=NETX.EXE,5,00,255 >v=PSCPG.COM,3,40,255 >v=SAF.EXE,3,40,255 >v=WIN200.BIN,10,10,4 >d=1 On > >p=DPMI_DOS_API >t=2 >v=AUTO >d=1 On > >p=DPMI_MEMORY_LIMIT >t=1 >v=64 >d=0 Off > >p=DPMI_NETWORK_BUFF_SIZE >t=1 >v=8 >d=1 On > >p=EMS_FRAME_LOCATION >t=2 >v=NONE >d=0 Off > >p=EMS_HIGH_OS_MAP_REGION >t=1 >v=0 >d=1 On > >p=EMS_LOW_OS_MAP_REGION >t=1 >v=384 >d=1 On > >p=EMS_MEMORY_LIMIT >t=1 >v=2048 >d=1 On > >p=HW_NOSOUND >t=0 >v=0 Off >d=1 On > >p=HW_ROM_TO_RAM >t=0 >v=1 On >d=0 Off > >p=HW_TIMER >t=0 >v=0 Off >d=1 On > >p=IDLE_SECONDS >t=1 >v=0 >d=1 On > >p=IDLE_SENSITIVITY >t=1 >v=75 >d=1 On > >p=INT_DURING_IO >t=0 >v=0 Off >d=1 On > >p=KBD_ALTHOME_BYPASS >t=0 >v=1 On >d=0 Off > >p=KBD_BUFFER_EXTEND >t=0 >v=1 On >d=1 On > >p=KBD_CTRL_BYPASS >t=2 >v=CTRL_ESC >d=0 Off > >p=KBD_RATE_LOCK >t=0 >v=0 Off >d=1 On > >p=MEM_EXCLUDE_REGIONS >t=3 >v= >d=1 On > >p=MEM_INCLUDE_REGIONS >t=3 >v= >d=1 On > >p=MOUSE_EXCLUSIVE_ACCESS >t=0 >v=0 Off >d=1 On > >p=PRINT_SEPARATE_OUTPUT >t=0 >v=1 On >d=1 On > >p=PRINT_TIMEOUT >t=1 >v=15 >d=1 On > >p=SESSION_PRIORITY >t=1 >v=1 >d=1 On > >p=SIO_Allow_Access_COM1 >t=0 >v=1 On >d=1 On > >p=SIO_Allow_Access_COM2 >t=0 >v=1 On >d=1 On > >p=SIO_Allow_Access_COM3 >t=0 >v=1 On >d=1 On > >p=SIO_Allow_Access_COM4 >t=0 >v=1 On >d=1 On > >p=SIO_Idle_Sensitivity >t=1 >v=100 >d=1 On > >p=SIO_Mode_DTR >t=2 >v=No Change at OPEN or CLOSE >d=1 On > >p=SIO_Mode_FIFO_Load_Count >t=2 >v=16 >d=1 On > >p=SIO_Mode_IDSR >t=2 >v=Ignore DSR During Receive >d=1 On > >p=SIO_Mode_OCTS >t=2 >v=HandShake Signal, as in RTS/CTS >d=1 On > >p=SIO_Mode_ODSR >t=2 >v=Ignore DSR During Transmit >d=1 On > >p=SIO_Mode_RTS >t=2 >v=HandShake Signal, as in RTS/CTS >d=1 On > >p=SIO_Mode_XON/XOFF >t=2 >v=No XON/XOFF flow control by SIO >d=1 On > >p=SIO_Screen_Sync_Kludge >t=0 >v=0 Off >d=1 On > >p=SIO_Share_Access_With_OS/2 >t=0 >v=1 On >d=1 On > >p=SIO_Virtualize_16550A >t=0 >v=1 On >d=1 On > >p=SIO_Virtualize_COM_Ports >t=0 >v=1 On >d=1 On > >p=VIDEO_8514A_XGA_IOTRAP >t=0 >v=0 Off >d=0 Off > >p=VIDEO_FASTPASTE >t=0 >v=0 Off >d=1 On > >p=VIDEO_MODE_RESTRICTION >t=2 >v=NONE >d=1 On > >p=VIDEO_ONDEMAND_MEMORY >t=0 >v=1 On >d=1 On > >p=VIDEO_RETRACE_EMULATION >t=0 >v=0 Off >d=1 On > >p=VIDEO_ROM_EMULATION >t=0 >v=1 On >d=1 On > >p=VIDEO_SWITCH_NOTIFICATION >t=0 >v=1 On >d=0 Off > >p=VIDEO_WINDOW_REFRESH >t=1 >v=1 >d=1 On > >p=XMS_HANDLES >t=1 >v=32 >d=1 On > >p=XMS_MEMORY_LIMIT >t=1 >v=16384 >d=0 Off > >p=XMS_MINIMUM_HMA >t=1 >v=0 >d=1 On Here are some of my settings which may be critical to the Quicken install program: 1) WIN_RUN_MODE 3.1 ENHANCED 2) WIN_DDE OFF (this may not be critical, but it is a big CPU drain) 3) DOS_BACKGROUND_EXECUTION OFF(this may not be critical, but it is a big cpu drain) 4) DOS_HIGH ON -this memory is needed for the program 5) DOS_UMB OFF -this lets the program use the UMB 6) DPMI_MEMORY_LIMIT 128 - 64 is OK for many programs, but some require more 7) DOS_FILES 50 - your 30 is way too low, and may be what's holding up the install. I don't kknow if this will help, but you might to check these settings for the WINOS2 command prompt, which is where you will have to go to start the Quicken install. ----------------------------------------------------------- Fred Springfield for e-mail remove 'xxx' Plymouth, MN ----------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Professional Network Services (pro-ns.net) (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: as@sci.fi 09-Nov-99 20:50:18 To: All 09-Nov-99 20:25:14 Subj: Re: Squid WWW Cache From: Anssi Saari jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong) writes: > How do you set this up to work with Internet Junkbuster under > Netscape? I had cache_peer localhost parent 8000 8000 no-query default in squid.conf. Junkbuster in port 8000. Unfortunately, it seemed that squid didn't cache everything, so I moved on to Smart Cache instead. It has blocking too. -- Anssi Saari - as@sci.fi --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Tampere University of Technology (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net 09-Nov-99 19:16:10 To: All 09-Nov-99 20:25:14 Subj: Re: Quicken 98 won't install--Still From: jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net In <38283DBC.95E7CC22@attglobal.net>, Satnam Singh writes: >Tried the enhanced mode, maxed XMS. Even tried going back to VGA wondering if my >Matrox 2.31 driver was tipping off Quicken as to the presence of OS/2. No help; >still get "wrong windows version." > >If anyone cares to take a stab, below Mikes comments I've printed out my Winos2 >fullscreen session settings, under which I've attempted to install Quicken 98. > >I'd appreciate any help. >Satnam Singh Have you checked the CD to be sure the v3.1 files and installer are there? I purchased a Quicken 97 CD at a local show, and it must have been a knockoff, because although it said it included the WIN 3.1 files, I could not find them, and it also would not install. IIRC the error messages were similar to the ones being posted here. After I purchased Quicken 98 directly from Intuit, my troubles went away. ----------------------------------------------------------- Fred Springfield for e-mail remove 'xxx' Plymouth, MN ----------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Professional Network Services (pro-ns.net) (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rde@tavi.co.uk 09-Nov-99 19:41:21 To: All 09-Nov-99 20:25:14 Subj: Re: Pilot Desktop 1.0 From: rde@tavi.co.uk (Bob Eager) On Tue, 9 Nov 1999 01:44:44, raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum) wrote: > Haven't got the Palm yet, but I'd be interested. Why not > post'em here? I didn't think there'd be that much interest! I think I'll put them on a webpage and post a pointer....may be a day or two though. -- Bob Eager rde at tavi.co.uk PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2, 8580*6, 8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT.. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Tavi Systems (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: dave@david-lister.co.uk 09-Nov-99 20:54:11 To: All 09-Nov-99 20:25:14 Subj: Re: Linkwiz From: dave@david-lister.co.uk In <38285c49$1$fgrir53$mr2ice@news.earthlink.net>, on 11/09/99 at 09:13 AM, steve53_remove_this@earthlink.net said: >In <3823d43c$1$qnir$mr2ice@read.news.global.net.uk>, on 11/06/99 > at 07:03 AM, dave@david-lister.co.uk said: >>I have used it regularly since I went to OS/2 several years ago now and >>rely on it entirely since I transfer files between my desktop & notebook >>every day. Generally, I find it OK, but it has problems - the main one >>being PCX themselves! Their support is, in my experience, non-existant. >In my experience, they were reasonably good, until they died. They >maintained and updated the OS/2 version almost in parallel with the >others versions. This is more than can be said for many other vendors. Perhaps I was unlucky! I had (and still have) problems whereby files in certain sub-directories would get missed when synchronising & I had (have) to re-run the operation, some times 3 or 4 times, to make sure every updated file is transferred. I think I was trying to sort this out when they had staff problems since I would explain my problems to one guy to discover he had moved on - so I went through it again and the same thing happened!! I gave up in the end and now live with it. >>Anyway, the reason for my query now is that I have version 2.52 which >>dates back to 1996 and I don't think that it is Y2K compliant. Lately >>I've tried to go to PCX's website and can't connect. Does anyone know if >>they are still in business?? If not, does anyone have experience of a >>good alternative product? I also used Linkright for a while but that >>died too! >I'm pretty sure they are gone. 2.52 is rather old. The last release was >3.04 which corrected at lot of problems with 2.52, and introduced some >new ones. :( Perhaps I'm better off with the version I've got!! :) I had come to the conclusion that they are not around anymore too. >Why do you think 2,52 is not Y2K compliant? Have you tested it? Well, what made me concerned was that I changed the date of a file I intended to transfer to my notebook to 5 November 2000 and it displayed in Linkwiz as 05-11-100. However, it did put it to the top (or bottom) of the list when sorted by date. At that point I stopped & didn't send it across to the notebook to see how other programs saw the date. I will try that - perhaps it's OK. Dave --------------------------------------------------------- dave@david-lister.co.uk David Lister Accountancy Services http://www.david-lister.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: GXSN (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: mr_ace@gmx.de 09-Nov-99 21:25:16 To: All 09-Nov-99 20:25:15 Subj: EmTec Network Suite FTP From: mr_ace@gmx.de Hi! I have problems with the EmTec Network Suite FTP-Client. I can't access a server through a squid-proxy, although you can configure one in the program's configuration dialog. I always get the message "No Information Loaded or Inaccessible directory". When I don't use the proxy, it works all right. I have to use the proxy though, to access servers outside the firewall... Anyone tested this or found a solution?? Thanks in advance! Andi --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: University of Karlsruhe (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nospam_evr@spam.net 09-Nov-99 16:53:13 To: All 09-Nov-99 20:25:15 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: "/2 User" On Mon, 8 Nov 1999 20:58:35 -0500, David H. McCoy wrote: >In article , >nospam_evr@spam.net says... >>On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 17:50:03 -0500, David H. McCoy wrote: >> > >Diskeeper is free. > You are paying for it through the nose with each M$ app you buy. Any ways HPFS is free in my case of any type of maintenance or virus utility. If it is taking your time to use it, or install it, it is not free. >>you pay through the nose just to buy NT. > >I payed $129 for the OS/2 upgrade in 1996. I payed $72 for NT 4.0 Full blown in >August 1997. The upgrade to Win2000 from NT will be $149. Pretty hefty fee for an upgrade that you are forced to do just because of the millenium. M$ sure has soaked in users for a lot of upgrades in the past 10 years. OS/2 has only needed 3 versions. > >You don't appear to know very much. I'll help you. > > >No, you just don't know about the software choice subscription of IBM. You will >learn when the next version of Java for OS/2 comes out because starting in >January, it is $200. Show me proof. > >You are sure out of the loop. You might say that, but I am not chasing Bill Gates constantly trying to line his upgrade products. > >> >>Well here is the link: http://www.epox.com/support/bulletins/t-23.html > >And here is the text "Some EPoX motherboards using the VIA MVP3 chipset may >suffer from some stability issues with Matrox AGP video cards using the G200 >video chipset. It will be necessary for the Matrox G200 AGP video cardÊs BIOS >to be updated to atleast VGA/VBE BIOS version 1.3 revision 0.11 and the drivers >for Windows 95/98 to be upgraded to atleast revision 4.21.009. The new updated >BIOS and drivers for the Matrox G200 AGP card can be downloaded from the Matrox >Website here: " > >According to this, the bios and Matrox drivers are at fault. Clearly, you >insistence to blame Windows when even your motherboard maker says the bios and >Matrox's drivers are at fault show that you are inot interested in finding the >real cause of your problems. I have tried this and it failed still, with a corrupted desktop, and some times crashing before the desktop even got loaded. I can see windoze user will need Scietech as well to fix all the OS bugs. No support for the G200 in windoze yet but I will try it when it comes out. > >>Now, if I am having a problem in OS/2 I can boot another OS to see if it >>continues, if it does, it is a hardware problem. If the problem goes away, it >>is a software problem. The problem with the G200 and the Via chipset is a >>windoze 9x problem. Their is no problem with Dos, win3.1, OS/2 ver 3 or 4 in >>my box. So keep on blaming the hardware, it will never change the fact that >>windoze is not as compatible as you think. > >N, it is a bios and Matrox driver problem. The link YOU provided says so. It >seems that once again, you are mistaken. > >Don't you ever grow tired of this? > My bios is at 1.5, the latest driver is at 4.23, and still problems, but only in win9X. > >>> >> >>I have never needed any of those utilities, so it does not apply to me, it is >>just a bad old habit the people have picked up from using MS Dos. Most OS/2 >>users really do not need these utilities that are more important to virus >>prone Dos, and bad fragmenting, cross linking, allocation error prone MS file >>systems. > >Unless you are not using OS/2, it does apply to you. Else, since copies of >Grahm, Gammatech, and IBM anti-virus were sold, you must feel that OS/2 users >are idiots for buying software they don't need. No, when I first tried OS/2 I wondered why IBM did not supply Anti Virus and a Defragger like they did with PC Dos? Because you really don't need it. It is just an old habit to Dos - OS/2 converts. My OS/2 installation is over 2 years old and has never been defragged. It is running 24/7 just because I don't like to wait for a boot up. > >I've got news for you, DOS viruses can affect OS/2 through DOS VDMs and HPFS >can fragment. All filesystems can fragment. > A dos virus would cause a protection error and the application would be terminated before any damage was done. I know OS/2 fragments, but with little problem, unlike NTFS and all those primitive varieties of Fat, the fragment like hell in only a few hours use, not to mention crosslinked files and lots of lost files. I think M$ was really stupid to drop HPFS, don't you agree? > >>> You don't find any process killers for Windows, you now. >> >>Not you don't. That is why reset buttons were put on the front of PCs with >>the introduction of windoze95. > >Silly boy. I've got a 486 from 1994 that was out before Windows 95 that has a >reset buttons. Reset buttons were out on 386s. Silly boy? Is that out of a fairy tale or one of your Ominar delusions. In any event that reset button was put their as an M$ process killer. > >> >>Scietech exploits the cards much better than OEM drivers, on any platform >>that is not a Kenmore consumer quality designed for idiots OS. Only the real >>Oses are lacking driver support. Wintendo has it all. > >Scitech sells software to people with old video cards, a market that clearly >includes OS/2. New cards have no need for them. Even Linux has dual-monitor >support for the G400. Only poor OS/2 is on the outside looking in. > Linux is the only real thorn that Bill has in his side right now as well. That is an OS that made it to the top with total reliability and merit. There was no anticompetitive practices used to put Linux where it is today. OS/2's biggest problem was Win-OS/2, as well as what PC manufacturer would want to use their competitors OS for no mater how good it was, while Bill was monopolizing the market. Another reason why I would not buy M$ software, I hate monopolies. >>> >> >>Why should I waste an hour defragging my hard drive, plus all the time wasted >>loading files before I get time to defrag it? > >Beats me. If I need to defrag, I'll set it for 4:00 am in the morning when I >sleeping. > Yes and the first minute you make that hard drive rattle, it gets slower and slower........... >>> >> >>Well I don't support monopolies that try and force stuff up my ass either. >> > >Nope, you just support IBM, who quietly slips their stuff up your ass. Makes it >seem more like your idea. > Huh?? Is that all you can say, because you were forced to go with M$. One sad Ominar you are. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "I tend to stay away from the Advocacy groups to avoid the WindTrolls" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nospam_evr@spam.net 09-Nov-99 16:59:02 To: All 09-Nov-99 20:25:15 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: "/2 User" On Tue, 09 Nov 1999 07:57:01 GMT, Buddy Donnelly wrote: >On Fri, 5 Nov 1999 21:37:09, "/2 User" a Úcrit dans >un message: > >> On Fri, 05 Nov 1999 20:28:55 GMT, Buddy Donnelly wrote: >> >> >[Now, see, if ProNews came back alive we could get one more filter field, >> >to allow us to block any article containing one of the unspeakable strings >> >anywhere in the body.] >> >> Now you just gave McCoy some bait to bash OS/2 for lack of application >> support;-) >> >> Robert Donnelly (Are we related?) > >Aren't all Irish related? > > >-- > >Good luck, OH shit! McCoy sounds Irish;-) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "I tend to stay away from the Advocacy groups to avoid the WindTrolls" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: cfrank@rumms.uni-mannheim.de 09-Nov-99 22:35:17 To: All 09-Nov-99 20:25:15 Subj: Winzip selfextracting file unzip under OS/2? From: cfrank@rumms.uni-mannheim.de (Carsten Frank) Is there any war to unzip a file which is zipped with winzip selfextracting method. It is a exe file and I dont want to start windoof to unzip this file. It is a exe file Tanks --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: mcbrides@erols.com 08-Nov-99 20:24:03 To: All 09-Nov-99 20:25:15 Subj: Re: CD-RW for OS2 From: mcbrides@erols.com (Jerry McBride) In article <807g6o$c7m$1@news.panix.com>, rcpj@panix.com (Pierre Jelenc) wrote: >Jerry McBride writes: >> >> Right off the bat... the 6416 runs just fine under all versions of OS/2 with >> the exception of... there have been posts to the effect that the 6416 is not >> able to cda with certain software... Why? I have no idea as I don't own one. > >That was me. It works fine with cdda2wav from the cdrecord package, but >that seems to be the only one. > >There seems to be a bug in cdda2wav, but it's minor. If you try to rip a >number of tracks, say 2-5, and track 5 is longer than track 4, then track >5 will be truncated to the length of track 4. There is no problem in >single-track ripping. > YIPES! You're right! I was playing with cdda2wav last night and I kept getting a short wav file when ripped in batch mode. However ripping it by-it's-self would yield a full length wav! Wow! That one was driving me nuts! Also, cdda2wav could use a little attention to it's jitter routine as it does not always work really well... Also, the -n switch simply fails to work! I can't reset the buffer to more than the default. Hmmm... a little more documentation would be nice too... :') -- ******************************************************************************* * Sometimes, the BEST things in life really ARE free... * * Get a FREE copy of NetRexx 1.151 for your next java project at: * * * * GET IT NOW! WHILE IT'S STILL FREE! * * * * http://www2.hursley.ibm.com/netrexx * ******************************************************************************* /----------------------------------------\ | From the desktop of: Jerome D. McBride | | mcbrides@erols.com | \----------------------------------------/ -- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: TEAM-NETREXX (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jhimmel@i-2000.com 09-Nov-99 22:53:05 To: All 09-Nov-99 20:25:15 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: jhimmel@i-2000.com (James Himmelman) On Tue, 9 Nov 1999 02:08:59, David H. McCoy wrote: > Ominor doesn't support inferior operating systems. NT has, in Ominor's opinion, > passed NT by. > David H. McCoy Yeah, that makes sense. Ominor should have himself checked. [[[ James Himmelman - jhimmel@i-2000.com ]]] --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: esther@bitranch.com 09-Nov-99 22:54:29 To: All 09-Nov-99 20:25:15 Subj: Re: Smack, CM2 won't run From: esther@bitranch.com (Esther Schindler) On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 22:55:00, mikelrob@flash.net (Michael Robertson) wrote: | I thought perhaps I had lost REXX somehow so I reinstalled it but it | makes no difference. The program terminates immediately. I can't | recall how I registered Smack and I have no idea how to get any | technical support. Perfectniche.com just has sales stuff. I believe that you can reach Technical Support at techsupport@perfectniche.com or support@perfectniche.com; I can't recall which of those is the ID that Mike uses. Or you can call 480/945-2001 and punch the appropriate number for tech support. This information ought to be in your manual, though I'm given to understand that some of the digital-delivery-only manuals (in PDF format) left out those pages. However, if *two* apps quit running at the same time, I doubt it's an application problem. Somewhere in there, you _must_ have changed something. Have you double checked your PATH and LIBPATH statements in the config.sys, and stuff like that? --Esther --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Frontier GlobalCenter Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca 09-Nov-99 23:00:01 To: All 09-Nov-99 20:25:15 Subj: Re: Winzip selfextracting file unzip under OS/2? From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong) Carsten Frank (cfrank@rumms.uni-mannheim.de) wrote: : Is there any war to unzip a file which is zipped with winzip : selfextracting method. It is a exe file and I dont want to start : windoof to unzip this file. It is a exe file Yeah..."unzip.exe winzippedfile.exe" --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: St. John's InfoNET (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca 09-Nov-99 23:01:01 To: All 09-Nov-99 21:17:16 Subj: Re: Partition Magic 5.0 upgrade From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong) Hal Murray (hjmurray@home.com) wrote: : I tried Partition Magic 4 on my OS/2 drive and it destroyed my : extended partition. So I went back to Partition Magic 3 text version. : I don't expect they addresses the Os/2 incompatibility in Version 5. You better hope they do Hal since PM3 will not work above 8.4 GB. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: St. John's InfoNET (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: postmaster@[127.0.0.1] 09-Nov-99 17:25:00 To: All 09-Nov-99 21:17:16 Subj: Pilot Desktop From: postmaster@[127.0.0.1] I inadvertently deleted the discussion on the Pilot Desktop. If this is for the Palm Pilot, I'm interested in hearing more. What was the discussion about? -- GK FrodoJRR at Interaccess dot com OS/2 Version 4.00 FixPack 12 There are 31 Processes with 125 Threads. This machine's uptime is 3d 1h 52m 43s 796ms. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: forgitaboutit@fake.com 09-Nov-99 19:02:05 To: All 09-Nov-99 21:17:16 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: David H. McCoy In article , nospam_evr@spam.net says... >On Tue, 09 Nov 1999 07:57:01 GMT, Buddy Donnelly wrote: > >>On Fri, 5 Nov 1999 21:37:09, "/2 User" a =82crit = >dans >>un message: >> >>> On Fri, 05 Nov 1999 20:28:55 GMT, Buddy Donnelly wrote: >>> >>> >[Now, see, if ProNews came back alive we could get one more filter f= >ield, >>> >to allow us to block any article containing one of the unspeakable s= >trings >>> >anywhere in the body.] >>> >>> Now you just gave McCoy some bait to bash OS/2 for lack of applicatio= >n >>> support;-) >>> >>> Robert Donnelly (Are we related?) >> >>Aren't all Irish related? >> >> >>-- >> >>Good luck, > >OH shit! McCoy sounds Irish;-) > Don't worry. I'm not Irish. I'm black, but you should see the Irish-bashing email Bob Germer sent me foolishly thinking that I was Irish. -- --------------------------------------- David H. McCoy dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com --------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: OminorTech (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: forgitaboutit@fake.com 09-Nov-99 19:02:26 To: All 09-Nov-99 21:17:16 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: David H. McCoy In article <3827e539$1$yrgbherq$mr2ice@news.sover.net>, letoured@nospam.net says... > > >McCoy were you born an asshole or is it something you acquired? > > > >_____________ >Ed Letourneau > > I learned it from your mother. She would say hi but her mouth is full. -- --------------------------------------- David H. McCoy dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com --------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: OminorTech (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: forgitaboutit@fake.com 09-Nov-99 19:09:02 To: All 09-Nov-99 21:17:16 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: David H. McCoy In article , nospam_evr@spam.net says... On Mon, 8 Nov 1999 20:58:35 -0500, David H. McCoy wrote: >>In article , >>nospam_evr@spam.net says... >>>On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 17:50:03 -0500, David H. McCoy wrote: >>> >> >>Diskeeper is free. >> >You are paying for it through the nose with each M$ app you buy. Really? Since you know what I've paid for each MS app I've purchased, and seem to delight in being proven wrong time and time again, tell me how I've paid "through the nose". >Any ways >HPFS is free in my case of any type of maintenance or virus utility. If = >it is taking your time to use it, or install it, it is not free. No, it is not. The very of existence of Grahm and Gammetech proves your words false as does the existence of OS/2-based anti-virus programs. >>>you pay through the nose just to buy NT. >> >>I payed $129 for the OS/2 upgrade in 1996. I payed $72 for NT 4.0 Full blown in >>August 1997. The upgrade to Win2000 from NT will be $149. >Pretty hefty fee for an upgrade that you are forced to do just because of the >millenium. M$ sure has soaked in users for a lot of upgrades in the past 10 >years. OS/2 has only needed 3 versions. >>You don't appear to know very much. I'll help you. >>No, you just don't know about the software choice subscription of IBM. = >>You will learn when the next version of Java for OS/2 comes out because starting= >>in January, it is $200. >Show me proof. We are done. I don't mind chatting, but since you clearly don't know what you are talking about, I see no reason to continue. OS/2 has had versions 1.0, 1.1, 1.2, 2.0, 2.1, 2.11, 3.0 and 4.0. Not three versions. As for the software subscriptions, that just look up the URL in Dejanews. Again, I don't mind debating, but I don't waste my time corresponding with the ignorant. Bye. -- --------------------------------------- David H. McCoy dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com --------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: OminorTech (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: khalsa@attglobal.net 09-Nov-99 19:01:27 To: All 09-Nov-99 21:17:16 Subj: Re: Quicken 98 won't install--Still From: Satnam Singh Ooohh! This gives rise to some concern. I purchased it at an eBay auction. Label does say Windows 95, 3.1 or NT 4 (it has a fancy white and blue label with the red "Quicken", part no. and copyright insignia) but did not come with any other material. I didn't find anything that jumps out at me like instl16.exe or setup31.exe but figured the install program autodetects (which some recent software packages seem to be able to do). How do I ID the v3.1 files and installer. My CD's directory tree: Autorun Disk1 DLXSetup Disk2 thru Disk12 IE WIN31 Disk1 thru Disk3 Win95 NT The Win31 subdirectory under IE appears to be MS Internet Explorer install only. Have I missed the boat? Do I have a bogus copy? Thanks to all for your comments to date. Satnam jspringf@xxxpro-ns.net wrote: > In <38283DBC.95E7CC22@attglobal.net>, Satnam Singh writes: > >Tried the enhanced mode, maxed XMS. Even tried going back to VGA wondering if my > >Matrox 2.31 driver was tipping off Quicken as to the presence of OS/2. No help; > >still get "wrong windows version." > > > >If anyone cares to take a stab, below Mikes comments I've printed out my Winos2 > >fullscreen session settings, under which I've attempted to install Quicken 98. > > > >I'd appreciate any help. > >Satnam Singh > > Have you checked the CD to be sure the v3.1 files and installer are there? > > I purchased a Quicken 97 CD at a local show, and it must have been > a knockoff, because although it said it included the WIN 3.1 files, > I could not find them, and it also would not install. IIRC the error > messages were similar to the ones being posted here. > > After I purchased Quicken 98 directly from Intuit, my troubles went > away. > > ----------------------------------------------------------- > Fred Springfield for e-mail remove 'xxx' > Plymouth, MN > ----------------------------------------------------------- -- To reply delete "deletehere." from return email address --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nospam_evr@spam.net 09-Nov-99 19:30:23 To: All 09-Nov-99 21:17:16 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: "/2 User" On Tue, 9 Nov 1999 19:09:04 -0500, David H. McCoy wrote: >>>Diskeeper is free. >>> > >>You are paying for it through the nose with each M$ app you buy. > >Really? Since you know what I've paid for each MS app I've purchased, and seem >to delight in being proven wrong time and time again, tell me how I've paid >"through the nose". I have seen NT for hundreds of dollars, and what about M$ office? Every time you or anybody else buys an M$ app they are subsidizing ?free? Diskeeper. > >>Any ways >>HPFS is free in my case of any type of maintenance or virus utility. If = >>it is taking your time to use it, or install it, it is not free. > >No, it is not. The very of existence of Grahm and Gammetech proves your words >false as does the existence of OS/2-based anti-virus programs. > And just the existence of 100,s of First Aid utilities for windoze proves it really sucks and needs more help than all the First Aid ISV's can give it.;-) >>>>you pay through the nose just to buy NT. >>> >>>I payed $129 for the OS/2 upgrade in 1996. I payed $72 for NT 4.0 Full blown in >>>August 1997. The upgrade to Win2000 from NT will be $149. > >>Pretty hefty fee for an upgrade that you are forced to do just because of the >>millenium. M$ sure has soaked in users for a lot of upgrades in the past 10 >>years. OS/2 has only needed 3 versions. > >>>You don't appear to know very much. I'll help you. >>>No, you just don't know about the software choice subscription of IBM. = >>>You will learn when the next version of Java for OS/2 comes out because starting= >>>in January, it is $200. > >>Show me proof. McCoys reply = nothing;-) > > > >We are done. I don't mind chatting, but since you clearly don't know what you >are talking about, I see no reason to continue. > >OS/2 has had versions 1.0, 1.1, 1.2, 2.0, 2.1, 2.11, 3.0 and 4.0. Not three >versions. How many in the past ten years of the 90's? > >As for the software subscriptions, that just look up the URL in Dejanews. > Why do I have to search for your so called facts? Because they are false, or just another bad McCoy guess? >Again, I don't mind debating, but I don't waste my time corresponding with the >ignorant. So go to the windoze groups where you will be appreciated. The day you deleted your OS/2 partition is the day you should have hit the os2 unsubscribe button. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "I tend to stay away from the Advocacy groups to avoid the WindTrolls" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jbaker@infoave.net 09-Nov-99 19:32:04 To: All 09-Nov-99 21:17:16 Subj: NETSCAPE Synchronize Traps From: John P Baker Hi I have NETSCAPE Communicator 4.61 (128-Bit Version). Periodically, I am receiving a trap while attempting to synchronize my PC with the news group server. The trap information contained in POPUPLOG.OS2 is as follows: 11-09-1999 19:26:03 SYS3175 PID 00b2 TID 0001 Slot 0066 E:\NETSCAPE\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE c0000005 0043480a P1=00000001 P2=00000021 P3=XXXXXXXX P4=XXXXXXXX EAX=00000001 EBX=00000001 ECX=00000000 EDX=00000001 ESI=00000000 EDI=007c605c DS=0053 DSACC=d0f3 DSLIM=1fffffff ES=0053 ESACC=d0f3 ESLIM=1fffffff FS=150b FSACC=00f3 FSLIM=00000030 GS=09ab GSACC=10f3 GSLIM=00003fff CS:EIP=005b:0043480a CSACC=d0df CSLIM=1fffffff SS:ESP=0053:007c6024 SSACC=d0f3 SSLIM=1fffffff EBP=007c607c FLG=00012246 NETSCAPE.EXE 0001:0042480a Has anyone else seen this problem ? Is there a fix ? John P Baker --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Info Avenue Internet Services (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nospam_evr@spam.net 09-Nov-99 19:35:15 To: All 09-Nov-99 21:17:16 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: "/2 User" I noticed you did some heavy snipping on this relpy? Must of been a lot of stuff you did not want to answer, or could not answer with out admitting M$ really actually does suck;-) On Tue, 9 Nov 1999 19:09:04 -0500, David H. McCoy wrote: >In article , >nospam_evr@spam.net says... >On Mon, 8 Nov 1999 20:58:35 -0500, David H. McCoy wrote: >>>In article , >>>nospam_evr@spam.net says... >>>>On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 17:50:03 -0500, David H. McCoy wrote: >>>> >>> >>>Diskeeper is free. >>> > >>You are paying for it through the nose with each M$ app you buy. > >Really? Since you know what I've paid for each MS app I've purchased, and seem >to delight in being proven wrong time and time again, tell me how I've paid >"through the nose". > >>Any ways >>HPFS is free in my case of any type of maintenance or virus utility. If = >>it is taking your time to use it, or install it, it is not free. > >No, it is not. The very of existence of Grahm and Gammetech proves your words >false as does the existence of OS/2-based anti-virus programs. > >>>>you pay through the nose just to buy NT. >>> >>>I payed $129 for the OS/2 upgrade in 1996. I payed $72 for NT 4.0 Full blown in >>>August 1997. The upgrade to Win2000 from NT will be $149. > >>Pretty hefty fee for an upgrade that you are forced to do just because of the >>millenium. M$ sure has soaked in users for a lot of upgrades in the past 10 >>years. OS/2 has only needed 3 versions. > > >>>You don't appear to know very much. I'll help you. >>>No, you just don't know about the software choice subscription of IBM. = >>>You will learn when the next version of Java for OS/2 comes out because starting= >>>in January, it is $200. > >>Show me proof. > > > >We are done. I don't mind chatting, but since you clearly don't know what you >are talking about, I see no reason to continue. > >OS/2 has had versions 1.0, 1.1, 1.2, 2.0, 2.1, 2.11, 3.0 and 4.0. Not three >versions. > >As for the software subscriptions, that just look up the URL in Dejanews. > >Again, I don't mind debating, but I don't waste my time corresponding with the >ignorant. > >Bye. > >-- >--------------------------------------- >David H. McCoy >dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com >--------------------------------------- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "I tend to stay away from the Advocacy groups to avoid the WindTrolls" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: alan@min.net.notspam 10-Nov-99 01:17:01 To: All 10-Nov-99 05:30:17 Subj: Fastback From: alan@min.net.notspam Anyone know if Fastback 1.02 is Y2K compliant? It's old, but it's always worked for me. --------------------------------------------------------------------- *** Please remove .notspam from my address to reply via e-mail. *** Nerve Center BBS (Fidonet 1:261/1000) 410-655-4708 Posted by Alan Hess using registered MR/2 ICE Newsreader #564 --------------------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: @Home Network (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: JSeder-nospam@syntel.com 09-Nov-99 17:25:26 To: All 10-Nov-99 05:30:17 Subj: Re: WordPro prints envelopes wrong. Can you help? From: Jonathan Seder > How can I get WordPro to print an envelope correctly? ... > The only thing that seems unusual is that I must physically insert the envelope > almost 2 inches into the printer's envelope feed. Otherwise, it pulls a sheet of > paper and prints the address on that. It seems to me that the printer should > have the capability to pull an envelope without manually stuffing one down > its throat. But that's the only thing that's unusual. The envelope feed problem is a hardware problem with the printer. It has nothing at all to do with software. Assuming everything else is right, to get the fields in the right place on the envelope, you can edit default.mwp, create an envelope, select the "Page Setup" button, and move the frames around until the envelope prints correctly. Back up default.mwp first. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: SyntelSoft Inc (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: JSeder-nospam@syntel.com 09-Nov-99 17:27:26 To: All 10-Nov-99 05:30:17 Subj: Re: Problem with 123 from Smartsuite 1.1 From: Jonathan Seder > Since doing the upgrade, I have been unable to run Lotus 123. The program > starts load and brings up the dialog box to select a worksheet to open, but > as soon as I select a sheet, it produces the following error: > > Unexpected OLE error occured. OLE error: 8007000a You might check the README.TXT file that came with SmartSuite. In particular, consider the following paragraph: 1. The SET SOMIR= statement must NOT reference any *.IR files that do not exist and must not contain any extra or any missing semicolons. If any *.IR files are referenced that do not exist or if you have any syntax errors in the SET SOMIR= statement prior to the LTOLSO20.IR file name, you will most likely see an OLE or other error message, or the product will fail to launch without giving any error. Check your SET SOMIR= statement and verify that there are no syntax problems (such as double semicolons), and that all of the *.IR files referenced in the statement do exist, and that the statement hasn't been cut off (with a carriage break) by editing the CONFIG.SYS file using an editor that wraps lines at 256 characters. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: SyntelSoft Inc (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: mckinnis@attglobal.net 09-Nov-99 18:47:24 To: All 10-Nov-99 05:30:17 Subj: Re: &emdash; vs. NS4.61 From: Chuck McKinnis Thanks you, Jeffrey (your fingers won't work as well either as you get older). "Jeffrey S. Kobal" wrote: > > Chuck McKinnis wrote: > > > Jeffery, thanks for the resource pointer, but where are codes 128-159? > > You're welcome, and it's "Jeffrey"... or just Jeff. :) > > As for the "missing" codes, look at the main document at > that same website for an explanation: > > http://www.htmlhelp.com/reference/charset > > "ISO-8859-1 explicitly does not define displayable characters > for positions 0-31 and 127-159, and the HTML standard does > not allow those to be used for displayable characters. The > only characters in this range that are used are 9, 10 and 13, > which are tab, newline and carriage return respectively. If > you attempt to display these invalid characters on your own > system, you may find some characters displayed there, but > please do not assume that other users will see the same > thing (or even anything at all) on their systems." > > Jeffrey S. Kobal > IBM Corporation -- Chuck McKinnis Senior Systems Engineer Denver Solutions Group, Inc. IBM Business Partner IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired) --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Denver Solutions Group (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: mckinnis@attglobal.net 09-Nov-99 18:48:00 To: All 10-Nov-99 05:30:17 Subj: Re: &emdash; vs. NS4.61 From: Chuck McKinnis Thank you, Jeffrey (your fingers won't work as well either as you get older). "Jeffrey S. Kobal" wrote: > > Chuck McKinnis wrote: > > > Jeffery, thanks for the resource pointer, but where are codes 128-159? > > You're welcome, and it's "Jeffrey"... or just Jeff. :) > > As for the "missing" codes, look at the main document at > that same website for an explanation: > > http://www.htmlhelp.com/reference/charset > > "ISO-8859-1 explicitly does not define displayable characters > for positions 0-31 and 127-159, and the HTML standard does > not allow those to be used for displayable characters. The > only characters in this range that are used are 9, 10 and 13, > which are tab, newline and carriage return respectively. If > you attempt to display these invalid characters on your own > system, you may find some characters displayed there, but > please do not assume that other users will see the same > thing (or even anything at all) on their systems." > > Jeffrey S. Kobal > IBM Corporation -- Chuck McKinnis Senior Systems Engineer Denver Solutions Group, Inc. IBM Business Partner IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired) --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Denver Solutions Group (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lwriemen@wcic.cioe.com 10-Nov-99 02:30:29 To: All 10-Nov-99 05:30:17 Subj: Re: Microtek ScanMaker 330 works in OS/2 via CFM Twain full release. From: lwriemen@wcic.cioe.com (Lee Riemenschneider) On Mon, 8 Nov 1999 22:30:50, matinee@cix.co.uk (Peter Kay) wrote: > As per subject. It's never been completely obvious by reading the > newsgroups. > > With the demo it doesnt work, with the release it does, with no > changes required. > Is the E3+ (not the E3) supported now? Lee W. Riemenschneider Die Hard Purdue Fan! OS/2 User and Supporter --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: WinStar GoodNet, Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: merlins@ibm.net 10-Nov-99 02:15:18 To: All 10-Nov-99 05:30:18 Subj: Re: Linkwiz From: Meinolf Sondermann dave@david-lister.co.uk wrote: > > In <38285c49$1$fgrir53$mr2ice@news.earthlink.net>, on 11/09/99 > at 09:13 AM, steve53_remove_this@earthlink.net said: > > >In <3823d43c$1$qnir$mr2ice@read.news.global.net.uk>, on 11/06/99 > > at 07:03 AM, dave@david-lister.co.uk said: [....] > >>they are still in business?? If not, does anyone have experience of a > >>good alternative product? I also used Linkright for a while but that As for an alternative you may use peer networking over parallelport . Assumed you have Warp 4 or Warp 3 Connect the required software components (MPTS & Peer) are already on your system. I had done this until I setup a TokenRing. It was not fast but sufficient for copying files. [....] > > Dave > --------------------------------------------------------- > dave@david-lister.co.uk > > David Lister Accountancy Services > http://www.david-lister.co.uk > ------------------------------------------------------------- Bye/2 Meinolf --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nenad@my-deja.com 10-Nov-99 03:43:26 To: All 10-Nov-99 05:30:18 Subj: Re: Winzip selfextracting file unzip under OS/2? From: Nenad Milenkovic cfrank@rumms.uni-mannheim.de (Carsten Frank) wrote: > Is there any war to unzip a file which is zipped with winzip > selfextracting method. It is a exe file and I dont want to start > windoof to unzip this file. It is a exe file You can unzip them as any other ZIP file, or you can use them with Odin as WinZip works in it (self-extract works without problems, as it's a very simple application). Nenad Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: swanee@pillarsoft.net 09-Nov-99 22:28:14 To: All 10-Nov-99 05:30:18 Subj: Re: Winzip selfextracting file unzip under OS/2? From: Wayne Swanson Carsten Frank wrote: > > Is there any war to unzip a file which is zipped with winzip > selfextracting method. It is a exe file and I dont want to start > windoof to unzip this file. It is a exe file Try WarpZip Carsten. Wayne Swanson ------------------------------------------------------------ email: swanee@pillarsoft.net PillarSoft: http://www.pillarsoft.net Developers of: WarpZip, DeskTop Backup (DTB), SFX Installer ShowTime/2 and the Enhanced E Editors Vice President: VOICE (Virtual OS/2 International Consumer Education) VOICE: http://www.os2voice.org ------------------------------------------------------------ --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: PillarSoft (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: letoured@nospam.net 09-Nov-99 22:32:16 To: All 10-Nov-99 05:30:18 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: letoured@nospam.net David H. McCoy said: >letoured@nospam.net says... >> >>McCoy were you born an asshole or is it something you acquired? >> >I learned it from your mother. She would say hi but her mouth is full. Your response proves my basic point -- You are an Asshole! _____________ Ed Letourneau --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nenad@my-deja.com 10-Nov-99 03:48:29 To: All 10-Nov-99 05:30:18 Subj: Comm/2 v4.61 easter egg From: Nenad Milenkovic I've just found out this, I don't know if it's OS/2 version specific, but it looks like it is. When you open "About Communicator" page and click on Netscape logo, you'll end up with the page listing OS/2 Comm/2 development team. One click on the page will line upp all names for start, and double click will begin the race... During the race, current leader is announced in status bar, and finally a winner is declared. Useless but interesting. :) Nenad Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: . (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: mikelrob@flash.net 10-Nov-99 04:51:05 To: All 10-Nov-99 05:30:18 Subj: Re: Smack, CM2 won't run From: mikelrob@flash.net (Michael Robertson) On Tue, 9 Nov 1999 22:54:59, esther@bitranch.com (Esther Schindler) wrote: > > I believe that you can reach Technical Support at > techsupport@perfectniche.com or support@perfectniche.com; I can't > recall which of those is the ID that Mike uses. Or you can call > 480/945-2001 and punch the appropriate number for tech support. This > information ought to be in your manual, though I'm given to understand > that some of the digital-delivery-only manuals (in PDF format) left > out those pages. > > However, if *two* apps quit running at the same time, I doubt it's an > application problem. Somewhere in there, you _must_ have changed > something. Have you double checked your PATH and LIBPATH statements in > the config.sys, and stuff like that? > > --Esther Thanks for the info Esther. Those pages were not included in the pdf manual that I got with the downloaded version so I much appreciate it. I don't know what I'd check in my config.sys since, as far as I know, the REXX files are in the OS/2 directory. I did try reinstalling REXX but no joy there. Michael ***Live simply, that others may simply live.*** --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: FlashNet Communications, http://www.flash.net (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nenad@my-deja.com 10-Nov-99 04:12:00 To: All 10-Nov-99 05:30:18 Subj: Re: os/2 under linux, win9x or NT From: Nenad Milenkovic In article <942067291.278707@daeumling.is-europe.at>, "Michael Wagner" wrote: > Hi folks, > > is there a possibility to run os/2 appl (32Bit). under linux, > win9x or NT. No. > -Because I have a very big customer who has to provide the > possibility to run win32 and os/2 appl. on the same machine. The only way right now is Citrix solution, but Win32 apps are run on server in that environment. Another way is to use Odin software which provides Win32 binary compatibility in OS/2. It's not finished yet, but it's open source and your big customer can use it's programming skills to fill the holes that prevent their Win32 apps from working under Odin. > -OS/2 as desktop platform is death! I have this info from IBM > directly. The fact that they don't promote or compete for the (fat) desktop anymore does not mean you can not buy or use Warp 4 anymore. > I > think there must be a lot of another companies with the same problem Probably. > vmware dose not support os2 yet(if enough interested party are > asking for > vmware will build in the os/2 support), VMWare is not that flexible. > bochs doese also not support os2 (I've no statement from bochs at > present). But OS/2 supports Bochs - you can run it in OS/2. However, Bochs is still too slow because of it's platform independant nature. They are working at CPU->CPU conversion for Intel platforms, but I don't know how far did they get. > is there something else?. If I understand what your needs are, your best bet is Project Odin. The company in question probably allready has OS/2 on desktops (why would they need OS/2 application support, anyway?), so it's cheapest soulution as Odin runs in OS/2 and is free and open source. The only problem is if it won't run Win32 applications you need, but that can be fixed as you get the source. Nenad Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: as@sci.fi 10-Nov-99 07:50:04 To: All 10-Nov-99 05:30:18 Subj: Logitech Cordless MouseMan Wheel in OS/2? From: Anssi Saari I have my eye on a "Logitech Cordless MouseMan Wheel" (http://www.logitech.com/se/mice/mc83_100.html). I'm wondering if that mouse works well in OS/2, especially the wheel? The wheel mouse support IBM has available doesn't mention this specific model, only a "Mouseman+" which isn't even mentioned on Logitech's site, maybe it's an older model. -- Anssi Saari - as@sci.fi --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Magic (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: forgitaboutit@fake.com 10-Nov-99 00:25:12 To: All 10-Nov-99 05:30:18 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: David H. McCoy In article <3828e750$1$yrgbherq$mr2ice@news.sover.net>, letoured@nospam.net says... >David H. McCoy said: > >>letoured@nospam.net says... >>> >>>McCoy were you born an asshole or is it something you acquired? >>> >>I learned it from your mother. She would say hi but her mouth is full. > > >Your response proves my basic point -- You are an Asshole! > > >_____________ >Ed Letourneau > > And your mother is a great lay. She just loves the backdoor and is well worth the five bucks. Give her a kiss for me. -- --------------------------------------- David H. McCoy dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com --------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: OminorTech (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com 10-Nov-99 06:49:03 To: All 10-Nov-99 05:30:18 Subj: Re: Comm/2 v4.61 easter egg From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" Nenad Milenkovic wrote: > I've just found out this, I don't know if it's OS/2 > version specific, but it looks like it is. Yes, it is only in the OS/2 version of Communicator 4.61 :) > When you open "About Communicator" page and click on Netscape > logo, you'll end up with the page listing OS/2 Comm/2 > development team. One click on the page will line upp all > names for start, and double click will begin the race... > During the race, current leader is announced in status bar, > and finally a winner is declared. I've got a better version of it now, actually... gives a little more information in the status bar on the race and fixes the problem where the race gets clipped off on the right side with certain fonts/sizes. Oh, and the double-click isn't necessary.... once you click to line up the names ("On Your Marks"), the race will start on its own ("Get Set"... "GO!"). > Useless but interesting. :) As most easter eggs are! Congrats on finding it! Jeffrey S. Kobal IBM Corporation --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: swanee@pillarsoft.net 10-Nov-99 01:32:20 To: All 10-Nov-99 05:30:18 Subj: Re: Comm/2 v4.61 easter egg From: Wayne Swanson "Jeffrey S. Kobal" wrote: > > Nenad Milenkovic wrote: > > > I've just found out this, I don't know if it's OS/2 > > version specific, but it looks like it is. > > Yes, it is only in the OS/2 version of Communicator 4.61 :) > > > When you open "About Communicator" page and click on Netscape > > logo, you'll end up with the page listing OS/2 Comm/2 > > development team. One click on the page will line upp all > > names for start, and double click will begin the race... > > During the race, current leader is announced in status bar, > > and finally a winner is declared. > > I've got a better version of it now, actually... gives a > little more information in the status bar on the race > and fixes the problem where the race gets clipped off > on the right side with certain fonts/sizes. Oh, and the > double-click isn't necessary.... once you click to line > up the names ("On Your Marks"), the race will start > on its own ("Get Set"... "GO!"). > > > Useless but interesting. :) > > As most easter eggs are! Congrats on finding it! > > Jeffrey S. Kobal > IBM Corporation Eldred is pretty fast but he seems to tire toward the end. Jones has nice confirmation and good speed but can he run on turf? I also noticed that you and Mike seem to be in the hunt but can't quite seem to break out. Maybe a steady diet of Jolt or Mountain Dew can get you guys over the hump. :-) btw: Did I hear that you'll be in Phoenix come Memorial day? I'm trying to justify that with my checkbook. Have a great day! Wayne Swanson ------------------------------------------------------------ email: swanee@pillarsoft.net PillarSoft: http://www.pillarsoft.net Developers of: WarpZip, DeskTop Backup (DTB), SFX Installer ShowTime/2 and the Enhanced E Editors Vice President: VOICE (Virtual OS/2 International Consumer Education) VOICE: http://www.os2voice.org ------------------------------------------------------------ --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: PillarSoft (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jknott@ibm.net 10-Nov-99 05:53:11 To: All 10-Nov-99 10:29:14 Subj: Re: PC DOS 7 on Bootmanager From: jknott@ibm.net (James Knott) In article , "Doug Darrow" wrote: >On Mon, 08 Nov 1999 20:39:11 -0500, Walter S. Rue wrote: > >>One other question: Does anyone know how large the partition should be? >>I was thinking about 50mg, including a couple of small apps. But that >>is only a guess. > >For DOS, I'd either go less than 32 megs - for the smallest possible >block size (2K) thereby wasting the least amount of space - or else go >with 125 megs (larger block size - 4 megs) which would allow enough >room to install something useful to run in DOS (games?) I thought that you got the 2K clusters below 128 MB. Also with smaller drives (I've forgotten the boundary) you wind up with a 12 bit FAT table and 4K clusters. With < 128 MB, the FAT table is 16 bits. Above 128 MB, the cluster size doubles everytime the partition size doubles. -- E-mail jknott@ca.ibm.com _________________________________________________________________________ The above opinions are my own and not those of ISM Corp., a subsidiary of IBM Canada Ltd. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: denis.radi@dem.si 10-Nov-99 11:27:11 To: All 10-Nov-99 10:29:14 Subj: Re: cdwriter support From: "Denis Radi" On 24 Oct 1999 20:45:13 GMT, Pierre Jelenc wrote: >No, ironically this one is SCSI (Yamaha 6416), while the one it replaced >was IDE and worked fine with all the rippers that balk now. Hi Pierre! http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Reuters Go to this site and then click on downloads. Try one of those patches for Pioneer, Sony and Teac drives. By! -- Yours sincerely. Denis +------------------------------+----------------------------------+ | Denis Radi, SysAdmin | OS/2 Warp Server V4 Advanced SMP | | Dravske elektrarne Maribor + A highly reliable network OS | +------------------------------+----------------------------------+ | Tel: +386 62 3005168 | http://www.dem.si | | Fax: +386 62 3005655 | e-mail: denis.radi@dem.si | +------------------------------+----------------------------------+ --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Dravske Elektrarne Maribor d.o.o, Slovenia (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: letoured@nospam.net 10-Nov-99 06:45:06 To: All 10-Nov-99 10:29:14 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: letoured@nospam.net David H. McCoy said: >>>>McCoy were you born an asshole or is it something you acquired? >>>> >>>I learned it from your mother. She would say hi but her mouth is full. >> >>Your response proves my basic point -- You are an Asshole! >And your mother is a great lay. She just loves the backdoor and is well >worth the five bucks. >Give her a kiss for me. Twice in row you prove me right. -- Although I am begining to think that your problems goes beyond asshole. It looks more like terminal RCI. _____________ Ed Letourneau --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rubbe@ibm.net 10-Nov-99 10:42:03 To: All 10-Nov-99 12:08:18 Subj: Re: Pilot Desktop From: Cassio Roberto Pellegrim It's about how to run Pilot Desktop 1.0 (Win32S 1.30) at WINOS/2 .... We're waiting for a pointer from someone that could run this and he'll create a HTML with the procedures ... Cassio Roberto Pellegrim CasRob@br.ibm.com postmaster@[127.0.0.1] wrote: > I inadvertently deleted the discussion on the Pilot Desktop. If this is > for the Palm Pilot, I'm interested in hearing more. > > What was the discussion about? > > -- > GK > > FrodoJRR at Interaccess dot com > OS/2 Version 4.00 FixPack 12 > There are 31 Processes with 125 Threads. > This machine's uptime is 3d 1h 52m 43s 796ms. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: IBM Austin (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: peterpan@mail2.dgraph.com 10-Nov-99 05:52:02 To: All 10-Nov-99 12:08:18 Subj: Re: Pilot Desktop From: Fujiha Cassio Roberto Pellegrim wrote: > > It's about how to run Pilot Desktop 1.0 (Win32S 1.30) at WINOS/2 .... Does WinOS/2 even support Win32s 1.3? I thought 1.25 was the highest version of Win3s supported. > > We're waiting for a pointer from someone that could run this and he'll > create a HTML with the procedures ... > > Cassio Roberto Pellegrim > CasRob@br.ibm.com > > postmaster@[127.0.0.1] wrote: > > > I inadvertently deleted the discussion on the Pilot Desktop. If this is > > for the Palm Pilot, I'm interested in hearing more. > > > > What was the discussion about? > > > > -- > > GK > > > > FrodoJRR at Interaccess dot com > > OS/2 Version 4.00 FixPack 12 > > There are 31 Processes with 125 Threads. > > This machine's uptime is 3d 1h 52m 43s 796ms. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Dreamland (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: zayne@omen.com.au 10-Nov-99 12:35:03 To: All 10-Nov-99 12:08:18 Subj: staroffice starcalc files go bad and close application From: zayne@omen.com.au (Mooo) I've been noticing something strange lately. I am using Suns version of Staroffice V5.1a Some Starcalc files that seem fine while I'm editing them seem to go bad during the save process. I cant nail down whats going on, indeed it seems slightly random in nature. Sometimes if I try to open a previously good starcalc file I get a staroffice error message to the effect that there has been a serious error and staroffice will now close (documents saved apparently). These files though seem to be lost, you can never open them, even after a reboot. Its a bit worrying as nothing else seems to be going wrong. The effect is a very uneasy feeling knowing that the calc file you've been working on all day, and that -seemed- to save okay might not be available to you tomorrow. I've searched the sun site and nothing applicable seems to be surfacing. Anyone got some ideas? Similar problems? Cheers, Craig --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Nothing I say is my own opinion (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: danielh@crosslink.net 10-Nov-99 16:01:16 To: All 10-Nov-99 16:37:18 Subj: Re: HTML stripper? From: danielh@crosslink.net >>I once has a program that removed the HTML codes from a text document. >If you're using NetScape, click on File >then SaveAs. Specify a file with an >extenstion of .TXT; The resulting TXT file >will contain only the actual text from the >original HTML script. If you want to strip html, but retain as much formatting as possible, you might be interested in html_txt (http://www.srehttp.org/apps/html_txt/ ) Among other features, HTML_txt recognizes and will format (fairly well, in my subjective opinion) tables, bullet lists, and forms. ----------------------------------------------------------- danielh@crosslink.net http://www.srehttp.org ----------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: CrossLink Internet Services 1-888-4-CROSSLINK (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: fwkirk@ibm.net 10-Nov-99 21:10:06 To: All 10-Nov-99 20:03:07 Subj: Re: Printing won't start from Win-OS2 From: fwkirk@ibm.net (Frank Kirk) On Tue, 9 Nov 1999 13:32:35, cmhall@umich.edu (Chris Hall) wrote: > I just installed an HP LJ 1100 and OS/2 printing works fine. DOS printing > is fine. However, when printing from Win-OS2, the printer won't accept > characters until it's "jostled", either by hitting the "Go" button (which also > prints a test page) or by removing the paper from the tray (which at least > changes a status). I've looked in the win.ini file and there's nothing obvious. > Also, changing the lpt1 bios port parameters doesn't affect anything (normal > vs epp). Right now it's just an annoyance. The problem only happens using the > HP win3.1 driver on its CD. If I print to a postscript driver which funnels > through Ghostscript, all is OK. If anyone knows what's happening, let me know. > System is Warp4 FP11 DDfix1. Is your Win-OS2 default printer set to LPT1? If so, you probably need to change it to LPT1.OS2. FWK --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: isaacl@grizzlies.ece.ubc.ca 10-Nov-99 21:14:24 To: All 10-Nov-99 20:03:07 Subj: Re: Comm/2 v4.61 easter egg From: isaacl@grizzlies.ece.ubc.ca (e-frog) Buddy Donnelly (donnelly@tampabay.rr.com) wrote: : On Wed, 10 Nov 1999 06:49:06, "Jeffrey S. Kobal" : a ‚crit dans un message: : > Nenad Milenkovic wrote: : > : > > I've just found out this, I don't know if it's OS/2 : > > version specific, but it looks like it is. : > : > Yes, it is only in the OS/2 version of Communicator 4.61 :) : snip : > > Useless but interesting. :) : > : > As most easter eggs are! Congrats on finding it! : With all due respect, this is crap. [stuff deleted] : /PROGRAM/WASTED.DLL we can track down and deregister or unlock and erase, : like those useless Advantis DLLs I still get physically sick over when they : pop back up after a fresh OS/2 install? (Remember, your Netscape /PROGRAM : directory alone is nearly 7,000,000 bytes, while other OS/2 browsers need : less than half of that to work, and I'm still using RAM strips I paid $30 I'm ambivalent about Easter Eggs. i) They do waste time and code, but ii) they're fun! Look, Netscape/2 might be bigger than other OS/2 browsers (what? WebEx?), but it also has a lot more functionality than the other ones. Whether you want it or not is another matter. Don't forget that Netscape/2 is a _port_, they didn't have the option to do it from scratch. Look at Opera/2 and how long that is taking if they were to do it from the ground up. If you look at Netscape for other platforms, you'll find that the Win9x version is something like a 16-18MB download, much, larger installed. The Solaris version I have here is 20MB in the directory. 14MB for the executable. (In *NIX, the bookmarks, cache and preferences are kept in the users directory) Meanwhile, my OS/2 version came in at a mere 10MB download and has an executable < 5MB and my entire directory, including mail, news, throbbers, etc. is < 20MB. It seems pretty feature complete relative to the other platforms! I have no complaints about that! Isaac --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: ITServices, University of British Columbia (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: alan@min.net.notspam 10-Nov-99 22:46:23 To: All 10-Nov-99 20:03:07 Subj: cannot find winsock.dll - Quicken 98 From: alan@min.net.notspam I've gotten a bit further in trying to connect to the internet with my Quicken 98 Deluxe for Windows 3.1 under OS/2 Warp 4 with a cable modem. I now get the error message "cannot find winsock.dll." Winsock.dll is in f:\tcpip\dos\etc, which is listed as "set etc=" in autoexec.bat. Quicken is set for direct internet connection. I also need the upgrades - I'm at R1, and the revision level is up to R4. Is there any other way to get them besides connecting through Quicken, which obviously hasn't worked? An ftp site, or something? Could someone download them, and make them available from a wesite? --------------------------------------------------------------------- *** Please remove .notspam from my address to reply via e-mail. *** Nerve Center BBS (Fidonet 1:261/1000) 410-655-4708 Posted by Alan Hess using registered MR/2 ICE Newsreader #564 --------------------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: @Home Network (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: hunters@sapphire.indstate.edu 10-Nov-99 22:29:16 To: All 10-Nov-99 20:03:07 Subj: Re: Comm/2 v4.61 easter egg From: hunters@sapphire.indstate.edu In article <3829c516$2$yvsrqngn$mr2ice@news.vol.com>, lifedata@xxvol.com wrote: > That's good? Two of the slowest most wasteful snails on earth and > that's good? What I meant was that it's small (<4K) and is not external to the browser (ie: It uses functions that the browser has anyway). Besides, Communicator is huge as it is. What's 4K compared to 16MB? -- -Steven Hunter *OS/2 Warp 4 * | hunters@sapphire.indstate.edu *AMD K6-2 400* | Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: matinee@cix.co.uk 10-Nov-99 22:30:22 To: All 10-Nov-99 20:03:07 Subj: Re: Microtek ScanMaker 330 works in OS/2 via CFM Twain full release. From: matinee@cix.co.uk (Peter Kay) On Wed, 10 Nov 1999 02:30:58, lwriemen@wcic.cioe.com (Lee Riemenschneider) wrote: > Is the E3+ (not the E3) supported now? I have no idea. Check the CFM pages? --- Peter Kay --- Manchester, UK --- OS/2, NT and more --- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: UUNET WorldCom server (post doesn't reflect views (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: esther@bitranch.com 10-Nov-99 23:15:24 To: All 10-Nov-99 21:35:27 Subj: Re: Smack, CM2 won't run From: esther@bitranch.com (Esther Schindler) On Wed, 10 Nov 1999 15:25:29, mikelrob@flash.net (Michael Robertson) wrote: | > If REXX isn't working, try running SWITCHRX from the command line. | > That will turn ObjectREXX on (or off), but at the least it may kick | > start REXX into working again. | | I did but it didn't. I must have done something during the last | three weeks or so that changed the environment but I can't remember | anything that might affect REXX. Show us your PATH and LIBPATH, Michael. --Esther --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Frontier GlobalCenter Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: ariek@attglobal3.141592653589793... 10-Nov-99 23:24:17 To: All 10-Nov-99 21:35:27 Subj: Re: VAC++ debugger storage monitor: how to search for specific data? Message sender: ariek@attglobal3.14159265358979323846.net From: ariek@attglobal3.14159265358979323846.net (Arie Kazachin) In message <38285CE8.399C@attglobal.net> - Tue, 09 Nov 1999 12:42:01 -0500Jerry Stuckle writes: > >Arie, > >Sorry, you can't search for specific data - I assume part of the reason >could be that memory is not necessarily contiguous in OS/2, even with >virtual addresses. > >A trick I've used quite often is to set a pointer to the data I want to >monitor, then stop when the pointer is set. This will give me the >address of the data, and I can then set a breakpoint on the change. > Thanks, Jerry. However, this trick only works when debugging a program you write. When attempting to do this with already existing executable (and no sources), it seems I'll have to let go on tha ability to search for data (unless some developing/debugging utilities can do this). Regards, ****************************************************************************** * Arie Kazachin, Israel, e-mail: ariek@attglobal3.14159265358979323846.net * ****************************************************************************** NOTE: before replying, leave only letters in my domain-name. Sorry, SPAM trap. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Unspecified Organization (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: whonea@codenet.net 10-Nov-99 16:28:10 To: All 10-Nov-99 21:35:27 Subj: Re: Comm/2 v4.61 easter egg From: whonea@codenet.net (Will Honea) On Wed, 10 Nov 1999 13:27:32, donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) wrote: > Or am I out of step with the marketplace here? Y'all want everybody's > systems everywhere loaded down with junk like this, instead of having trim, > solid, stable, secure, fast-working browsers? All in favor, raise your > cotton candy cones over your empty heads and wave them. Are you out of step? YES. They give you a freebie then you sit around and bitch about trivia. You got what you paid for and you are free to remove it anytime you feel up to it. Will Honea --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net 10-Nov-99 18:32:16 To: All 10-Nov-99 21:35:27 Subj: Re: Comm/2 v4.61 easter egg From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum) donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) wrote: >On Wed, 10 Nov 1999 06:49:06, "Jeffrey S. Kobal" > a ‚crit dans un message: > >> Nenad Milenkovic wrote: >> >> > I've just found out this, I don't know if it's OS/2 >> > version specific, but it looks like it is. >> >> Yes, it is only in the OS/2 version of Communicator 4.61 :) >snip >> > Useless but interesting. :) >> >> As most easter eggs are! Congrats on finding it! > >With all due respect, this is crap. > >All easter eggs are grotesque wastes of resources, neither helpful nor >harmless, just useless lines of code buried inside the original copy of >program source then writ large by being compiled and multiplied over every >copy of the program in use everywhere around the planet all at the same >time, taking up HD space on millions (?) of machines at once and then >carried forward for many years to come, taking up extra RAM every day when >the program loads, and for all we know just standing around in there >getting in everybody else's way like a blind dog at a picnic. >remainder of excoriation excised Buddy, Buddy, Buddy! In a world where extra code is added to popular internet applications and multimedia applications to report user habits to greedy software developers; where personal privacy is at constant risk thanks to the pure acquisitive nature of frantic and duplicitous corporations; where sheer bloat, along with the patently malicious impulse to create automatically obselete software purely out of avarice, threaten to stifle what's vital and human in arguably the most human innovations in technology in a long time -- in such a world, what is the harm of a tiny bit of out-of-the-way developer graffiti, placed there by a dozen or so software engineers motivated, if I may, by nothing more culpable than simple pride in accomplishment? (Merited pride, I think you agree.) I guess some Easter eggs are annoying but I like seeing this particular one. These folks did a first-rate job, imho (iYho, if I'm not mistaken), and if they want to ink their names beneath the woodwork I'm all for it. It puts a human face on something which was for all purposes created not by Netscape, nor by IBM, but by a bunch of overworked human beings over the course of six months or a year or however long. Otoh, if you really mean it, I'll bet you could forward your complaint to the powers that be (I be Em, that is) and watch a few heads roll -- or hear their apologies, anyway. Now, should I discover one of these things in any SmutSuite applications, I might catch the next train to Armonk and grab Louie by the lapels and demand the firing of the morons that created it, 'cause the shabby programming Lotus has foisted on OS/2 users deserves punishment. -- Ray Tennenbaum '99 YZF-R6 readme@ http://www.ray-field.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: AT&T WorldNet Services (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: hunters@my-deja.com 10-Nov-99 15:55:17 To: All 10-Nov-99 21:35:27 Subj: Re: Comm/2 v4.61 easter egg From: hunters@my-deja.com In article , donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) wrote: > All easter eggs are grotesque wastes of resources, neither helpful > nor harmless, just useless lines of code buried inside the original > copy of program source then writ large by being compiled and > multiplied over every copy of the program in use everywhere around > the planet all at the same time, taking up HD space on millions (?) > of machines at once and then carried forward for many years to come, > taking up extra RAM every day when the program loads, and for all we > know just standing around in there getting in everybody else's way > like a blind dog at a picnic. Jesus Tap-Dancing Christ Man! Chill out! This particular easter egg is all done with HTML and JavaScript. --Begin (partial) source for "about:authors"-- The Netscape Communicator 4.61 for OS/2 Team --End-- Then the names are listed... Quite well written if I may say so! :) -- -Steven Hunter *OS/2 Warp 4 * | hunters@sapphire.indstate.edu *AMD K6-2 400* | Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jmprice@calweb.com 10-Nov-99 17:20:28 To: All 10-Nov-99 23:25:13 Subj: Re: Comm/2 v4.61 easter egg From: John M Price PhD I get not a thing but the names. In comp.os.os2.apps article <80c4hk$pm$1@nnrp1.deja.com> hunters@my-deja.com wrote: : In article : , : donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) wrote: :> All easter eggs are grotesque wastes of resources, neither helpful :> nor harmless, just useless lines of code buried inside the original :> copy of program source then writ large by being compiled and :> multiplied over every copy of the program in use everywhere around :> the planet all at the same time, taking up HD space on millions (?) :> of machines at once and then carried forward for many years to come, :> taking up extra RAM every day when the program loads, and for all we :> know just standing around in there getting in everybody else's way :> like a blind dog at a picnic. : : Jesus Tap-Dancing Christ Man! Chill out! This particular easter egg is : all done with HTML and JavaScript. : --Begin (partial) source for "about:authors"-- : : The Netscape Communicator 4.61 for OS/2 Team : : --End-- : Then the names are listed... Quite well written if I may say so! :) : -- : -Steven Hunter *OS/2 Warp 4 * | : hunters@sapphire.indstate.edu *AMD K6-2 400* | : Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ : Before you buy. -- John M. Price, PhD jmprice@calweb.com Life: Chemistry, but with feeling! | PGP Key on request or FTP! Email responses to my Usenet articles will be posted at my discretion. Comoderator: sci.psychology.psychotherapy.moderated Atheist# 683 Syndicate Section III - Number 1 ... so long as the people do not care to exercise their freedom, those who wish to tyrranize will do so; for tyrants are active and ardent, and will devote themselves in the name of any number of gods, religious and otherwise, to put shackles upon sleeping men. - Voltarine de Cleyre --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: his very own desk! (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jmprice@calweb.com 10-Nov-99 17:24:13 To: All 10-Nov-99 23:25:13 Subj: Re: Comm/2 v4.61 easter egg From: John M Price PhD In comp.os.os2.apps article <382a19f9_1@news.calweb.com> John M Price PhD wrote: : I get not a thing but the names. Sheesh. I usually have java off for security. Kaply won. -- John M. Price, PhD jmprice@calweb.com Life: Chemistry, but with feeling! | PGP Key on request or FTP! Email responses to my Usenet articles will be posted at my discretion. Comoderator: sci.psychology.psychotherapy.moderated Atheist# 683 Syndicate Section III - Number 1 The Celtic countries, by the way, are the only places where you can find peat. God did this because he knew that the Celts were the only people who drink so much that they would try to burn mud. - P.J. O'Rourke "Trips to Nowhere" --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: his very own desk! (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: pcoen@drunivac.drew.edu 10-Nov-99 20:35:14 To: All 10-Nov-99 23:25:13 Subj: Re: Comm/2 v4.61 easter egg From: Paul Coen "Jeffrey S. Kobal" wrote: >As most easter eggs are! Congrats on finding it! So, on a really boring day, did you guys ever find yourselves wagering on the results of a race? :) --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca 11-Nov-99 01:39:05 To: All 10-Nov-99 23:25:13 Subj: The Describe 5 Diaries... From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong) One feature that I have not found amongst any of the other GUI based word processors is the ability to change most of the menu/background colors. Microsoft Word 6.0c and Corel WordPerfect 7, I know don't have this, neither did Lotus Word Pro 96. Now, when I say that I mean something like back during the WordPerfect 5.1 days, the ability to change ones background (mine was always black) and the text (dark green for regular text with neon green for the bold). Of course, none of this meant that your print outs would come out in a black backdrop with green text, it was simply the working enviornment that would look like this. Describe 5 does this on all platforms (Windows 3.1, Windows 95/NT, and OS/2). Which is great for me since I have always had trouble working with GUI based word processors and preferred the character-based ones. At least this way I can mimic myself a pseudo-WordPerfect 5.1 working enviornment. A feature that is lacking which I think would be neat to have in order to compliment the earlier feature is a fullscreen mode, something that I remember seeing in Microsoft Word 6.0c for instence. The closest I could get in Describe 5 was disabling the toolbar, but that doesn't cut it since I still see the menu and title bar. A quick comment about some of the filters that Describe 5 has to offer. I have found Describe 5's ability to read other formats to be generally good. The one that impressed me the most was its Microsoft Word 6.0 filter. It was able to read one particular document (Canon's Windows NT Guide for their Canon BJC-4000 series printer driver, you can download it at http://www.ccsi.canon.com). I compared how Describe 5 would display that document as compared with Microsoft's Word 97 viewer and was amazed to see the formating almost identical with even the graphics in the proper placing and everything. Whether or not Describe 5 could see Word 6 equations and other things of that like I do not know. Unfortunately this only applies to the OS/2 version. I have tried viewing the same files under both the Windows 3.1 and Windows 95 version but the images never come out, only the text. Weird. Anyhow, I do know one thing, a word processors ability to read other file formats has absolutely nothing in common with its ability to save it as another format. Quite frankly, this is where Describe 5 bombs. When it came to trying to save Describe 5's sample document (a four page document displaying all of Describe's abilities, from tables, graphics, frames, and footnotes) as another file format it will never ever preserve the graphics or virtually anything else other than the text formatting. No matter which filter I chose, it was in vain since the end result was the same. If someone actually demands a soft copy of your work, the best thing to do (and this applies with any word processor that can do this) is to install a PostScript printer driver and have it setup to print to file. You will also want to install Ghostscript/Ghostview (http://www.cs.wisc.edu/~ghost). They have Windows 3.1/95/98/NT, Linux, FreeBSD, OS/2, Macintosh (PPC/m68k), and a host of others. There is a DOS version but it only has Ghostscript, no Ghostview (this is what actually displays the PostScript document). Under DOS the only thing you can do is print it out so I would suggest getting at least a second-hand copy of Windows 3.1 in order to view the PostScript files. Now most people already have Adobe Acrobat on their system somewhere and this is where Ghostscript/Ghostview really shines since it can make a PostScript to PDF conversion. Basically you have to launch Ghostscript/Ghostview, then open the PostScript document. After that click on "Print", then scroll down the "Device:" listing and click on 'pdfwrite'. Click on "Print to File" and select all or any particular page or pages of the document you wanted and then click on "Ok". You will then be asked to name the file that you wanted saved as (eg. SAMPLE.PDF). Voila! You have a PDF file that anyone who has Adobe Acrobat Reader can view. Adobe made many versions of Adobe Reader, from DOS, Windows 3.1/9X/NT, OS/2, *Nix's, etc. Like I said earlier, this will work for any word processor that can do this, so this way you can keep using whatever word processor you like and still be able to provide your work in a manner that can be literally read by all, either as a PostScript document or as a PDF document. Of course, they won't be able to work on the document (unless it was a PDF document and they had the Adobe Acrobat product) but at least they can read it in the manner that it was originally supposed to look like. This is late in coming, but I really have to compliment Describe Inc. for putting out a really good product. Even in spite of some of its drawbacks, it has majority of the features that one expects a word processor to have, is quick and light, and not to mention one heck of a bargain. It is just too bad that they went out of business. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: St. John's InfoNET (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: forgitaboutit@fake.com 10-Nov-99 21:14:06 To: All 10-Nov-99 23:25:13 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: David H. McCoy In article <3829474e$1$yrgbherq$mr2ice@news.sover.net>, letoured@nospam.net says... >David H. McCoy said: > >>>>>McCoy were you born an asshole or is it something you acquired? >>>>> >>>>I learned it from your mother. She would say hi but her mouth is full. >>> >>>Your response proves my basic point -- You are an Asshole! > >>And your mother is a great lay. She just loves the backdoor and is well >>worth the five bucks. >>Give her a kiss for me. > >Twice in row you prove me right. -- Although I am begining to think that >your problems goes beyond asshole. It looks more like terminal RCI. > > >_____________ >Ed Letourneau > Twice in a row I made your mom feel like a real woman. Having you did turn her off to sex, but I fixed that. Would you like pictures of her and me together? She is one great piece of ass. -- --------------------------------------- David H. McCoy dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com --------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: OminorTech (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com 11-Nov-99 05:33:03 To: All 11-Nov-99 03:54:25 Subj: Re: Comm/2 v4.61 easter egg From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" Wayne Swanson wrote: > Eldred is pretty fast but he seems to tire toward the end. Jones has > nice confirmation and good speed but can he run on turf? I also noticed > that you and Mike seem to be in the hunt but can't quite seem to break > out. Maybe a steady diet of Jolt or Mountain Dew can get you guys over > the hump. :-) Ya know... what's funny is how accurately that seems to describe all of us.... > btw: Did I hear that you'll be in Phoenix come Memorial day? I'm trying > to justify that with my checkbook. I've already planted the idea in my new manager's head, and he's all for it. We'll still have to solidify those plans after the New Year, though. Jeffrey S. Kobal IBM Corporation --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com 11-Nov-99 05:20:23 To: All 11-Nov-99 03:54:25 Subj: Re: The Describe 5 Diaries... From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 01:39:10, jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong) a Úcrit dans un message: snpppp > A feature that is lacking which I think would be neat to > have in order to compliment the earlier feature is a fullscreen > mode, something that I remember seeing in Microsoft Word 6.0c for > instence. The closest I could get in Describe 5 was disabling > the toolbar, but that doesn't cut it since I still see the menu > and title bar. You're right, the top two bar lines can't be eliminated, but you *can* simply "Float" the toolbar and push it off the screen when you don't want to see it. That customizable toolbar is a very powerful feature. snip > If someone actually demands a soft copy of your work, the > best thing to do (and this applies with any word processor that > can do this) is to install a PostScript printer driver and have > it setup to print to file. Only if you care for them. Otherwise, just send them the Word output file and make them waste time trying to read it. Anybody who looks at the header will see that you've sent them the correct format, and will assume they're doing something wrong for quite a while before bugging you back. (Or, if it's somebody you're working with often, have them install DeScribe on whatever platform they have at their end and trade the DeScribe format files back and forth, of course.) snip > Of course, they won't be able to > work on the document (unless it was a PDF document and they had the > Adobe Acrobat product) but at least they can read it in the manner > that it was originally supposed to look like. That's the great thing about PDF, I think. They can't screw it up and see it differently than you created it, no matter what they do. > This is late in coming, but I really have to compliment > Describe Inc. for putting out a really good product. Even in > spite of some of its drawbacks, it has majority of the features > that one expects a word processor to have, is quick and light, and > not to mention one heck of a bargain. It is just too bad that they > went out of business. Yeah, where were you when we needed to be buying them back from their marketing foolishnesses? Just joking. It's fun to see somebody discovering the amazing powers of this program. Still my weapon of choice... -- Good luck, Buddy Buddy Donnelly donnelly@tampabay.rr.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: RoadRunner - TampaBay (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com 11-Nov-99 05:43:08 To: All 11-Nov-99 03:54:25 Subj: Re: Comm/2 v4.61 easter egg From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" Buddy Donnelly wrote: > With all due respect, this is crap. > > All easter eggs are grotesque wastes of resources.... [snip] Boy, life must really be tiresome being so joyless, huh? We did that as a little surprise; it wasn't that hard to put together and actually taught me a lot about programming in Javascript, so it turns out to have been a very useful exercise. > [much invective snipped] (Remember, your Netscape /PROGRAM > directory alone is nearly 7,000,000 bytes, while other OS/2 browsers need > less than half of that to work, and I'm still using RAM strips I paid $30 > per MB for, so it's easy enough to work out how much that extra code pains > me.) The authors page is just an HTML document, so there was no extra code written into the app to make any of that happen... it's standard Javascript and HTML. And it added less than 2K to the product. Whooo-ee. > Or am I out of step with the marketplace here? Yes, you are. And, in my opinion, completely out of line. Jeffrey S. Kobal IBM Corporation --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com 11-Nov-99 05:53:00 To: All 11-Nov-99 03:54:25 Subj: Re: Comm/2 v4.61 easter egg From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" Paul Coen wrote: > So, on a really boring day, did you guys ever find yourselves > wagering on the results of a race? :) No, but that thought had come up before. Now that I think about it, though, we should probably use it to determine who has to pick up the doughnuts in the morning. Jeffrey S. Kobal IBM Corporation --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: postmaster@[127.0.0.1] 10-Nov-99 22:34:05 To: All 11-Nov-99 03:54:25 Subj: Re: Comm/2 v4.61 easter egg From: postmaster@[127.0.0.1] In <80apva$267$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, on 11/10/99 at 03:48 AM, Nenad Milenkovic said: >Useless but interesting. :) Very nice. -- GK FrodoJRR at Interaccess dot com OS/2 Version 4.00 FixPack 12 There are 31 Processes with 123 Threads. This machine's uptime is 0d 0h 12m 12s 765ms. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: debu4335@dpnet.net 11-Nov-99 00:50:25 To: All 11-Nov-99 03:54:25 Subj: e-mail app conversion utils From: Michael DeBusk Although Netscape's mailer has served me well for a very long time, my e-mail needs have grown to the point where I need to think about a dedicated e-mail app. Post Road Mailer seems to offer the most bang for the buck at this point, though I do realize MR/2 has a great legion of fans. My challenge is in converting my Netscape 4.61 mail folders and address book to the new format. I *really* don't want to do it one at a time. Hobbes doesn't have what I need. Is there something out there that will convert Netscape 4.61 mail folders and address books to Post Road Mail format? Thanks in advance. -- Mike DeBusk ÿ North East, Maryland USA ÿ Team OS/2 Host of the ILink Psychology and OS_Discuss conferences --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: ntr.net Corporation (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: postmaster@[127.0.0.1] 10-Nov-99 22:35:20 To: All 11-Nov-99 03:54:25 Subj: Re: Comm/2 v4.61 easter egg From: postmaster@[127.0.0.1] In , on 11/10/99 at 01:27 PM, donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) said: >Or am I out of step with the marketplace here? Y'all want everybody's >systems everywhere loaded down with junk like this, instead of having >trim, solid, stable, secure, fast-working browsers? All in favor, raise >your cotton candy cones over your empty heads and wave them. Got a bee in your bandwidth, Buddy? That's gotta be one of the longest letters I've read in a long time. -- GK FrodoJRR at Interaccess dot com OS/2 Version 4.00 FixPack 12 There are 31 Processes with 123 Threads. This machine's uptime is 0d 0h 13m 44s 304ms. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com 11-Nov-99 05:51:26 To: All 11-Nov-99 03:54:25 Subj: Re: Comm/2 v4.61 easter egg From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" Buddy Donnelly wrote: > For kicks, look at the Warp credits Easter Egg, and try to find more than > 10 of those names still at IBM. You'll find both Mike and myself in that list, if you wait around long enough for the K's, plus a couple of others from our team. And certainly more than 10 in total. But should I have admitted that? Oh, no... that means my name is taking up TWICE as much space on your hard drive, being in the credits for both Warp and Communicator! Oh, the horror of waste! Ah, never mind... you said you deleted that other metafile, so it's safe. Whew, that was a close one. Jeffrey S. Kobal IBM Corporation --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: postmaster@ecoworld.co.uk 10-Nov-99 22:26:25 To: All 11-Nov-99 03:54:25 Subj: Netscape 4.04 Wanted From: postmaster Hi All, I was stupid enough to upgrade to Netscape 4.61 having waited thinking it would be bug free - which sadly is not the case. I had kept a copy of comm404.exe file, but when I came to run it, I found it was corrupted - can anyone point me to a site to get it? Desperate to return to a stable platform! In fact I'd prefer an alternative to a WIN95 port to OS2! Regards David ________________________________________________________________ David Cooper - Chairman Green-Base Exchange Ltd - Green-Base Shopping Ltd. Waste Recovery + Cleaner Production Technologies = Environmentally Friendly Products = Profits. That's Our Business - Make It Yours! --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Green-Base Exchange Ltd (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com 11-Nov-99 05:03:11 To: All 11-Nov-99 03:54:25 Subj: Re: Comm/2 v4.61 easter egg From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) On Wed, 10 Nov 1999 19:13:45, lifedata@xxvol.com a Úcrit dans un message: > donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) said: > > >Or am I out of step with the marketplace here? Y'all want everybody's systems > >everywhere loaded down with junk like this, instead of having trim, solid, > >stable, secure, fast-working browsers? All in favor, raise your cotton candy > >cones over your empty heads and wave them. > > I can't say I disagree with you, but are you sure you want "Quixote" attached to > your name? Here's my contribution. I want Bill Gates to take all the gotcha > and froth code out of windows. I think I've got a better chance of wearing down someone who posts here, than you do of getting some sense into any of the M$ minions, forgetabout Billy bouncing up and down on his living room trampoline and back jacknifing into his money bin. -- Good luck, Buddy Buddy Donnelly donnelly@tampabay.rr.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: RoadRunner - TampaBay (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: j.torino@mailcity.com 10-Nov-99 21:14:05 To: All 11-Nov-99 03:54:25 Subj: Re: Netscape 4.04 Wanted From: John Torino postmaster wrote: > Hi All, > > I was stupid enough to upgrade to Netscape 4.61 having waited thinking > it would be bug free - which sadly is not the case. > > I had kept a copy of comm404.exe file, but when I came to run it, I > found it was corrupted - can anyone point me to a site to get it? > Desperate to return to a stable platform! In fact I'd prefer an > alternative to a WIN95 port to OS2! > > Regards > > David > > ________________________________________________________________ > David Cooper - Chairman Green-Base Exchange Ltd - Green-Base Shopping > Ltd. Waste Recovery + Cleaner Production Technologies = Environmentally > Friendly Products = Profits. That's Our Business - Make It Yours! Yes, I can tell you where to find it. Email me. JT --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: MailCity Services (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com 11-Nov-99 05:54:17 To: All 11-Nov-99 03:54:25 Subj: Re: Netscape 4.04 Wanted From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" postmaster wrote: > I was stupid enough to upgrade to Netscape 4.61 having waited thinking > it would be bug free - which sadly is not the case. "Bug free"? That's a tall order for any major piece of software. What sort of troubles are you having with it? Jeffrey S. Kobal IBM Corporation --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bbarclay@ca.ibm.com 10-Nov-99 13:48:23 To: All 11-Nov-99 10:44:23 Subj: Re: Pilot Desktop From: Brad BARCLAY postmaster@[127.0.0.1] wrote: > > I inadvertently deleted the discussion on the Pilot Desktop. If this is > for the Palm Pilot, I'm interested in hearing more. > > What was the discussion about? The discussion was about getting the Pilot Desktop v1.0 from Palm Computing working under OS/2. Some people have been able to do it, but for others it doesn't work (I have never been able to get it up and running). A few notes for everyone on Pilot Desktop v1.0: first off, this software was designed for the Pilot 1000. It's version of the HotSync protocol should work with newer models, but it's seriously limited, and doesn't support many of the new features introduced in later revisions of the HotSync protocol stack. It also means that it won't support any modern Conduit plug-ins for synchronizing with 3rd party applications. It also only supports a very rudimentary backup/restore facility, and is limited to 57.6kbps transfer speed. Plus, it's a Windows application :). It was for all of these reasons why I wrote the 100% Java based jSyncManager (http://yaztromo.idirect.com/java-pilot.html). It runs under OS/2 very nicely (it should - all of it was written under OS/2 using VAJ for OS/2), synchronizes at 115.2kbps, has a fully re-written and highly optimized HotSync protocol stack (also in pure Java) which supports all of the newest protocol extensions, provides a full backup and restore facility, provides a jConduit plug-in interface to allow for synchronization with third-party applications, and has a fully open API for developers to use to write their own jConduits, or their own applications based on the HotSync protocol stack. And perhaps best of all, it's free for home and personal use, and the developer (me) lives in the OS/2 newsgroups and is always willing to provide free technical support :) Brad BARCLAY =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Posted from the OS/2 WARP v4.5 desktop of Brad BARCLAY. E-Mail: bbarclay@ca.ibm.com Location: 2G43D@Torolabs DISCLAIMER: I am not speaking for my employer. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: IBM Toronto Labs, DB2 for OS/2 Install Developer (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca 11-Nov-99 07:19:16 To: All 11-Nov-99 10:44:23 Subj: Re: The Describe 5 Diaries... From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong) Buddy Donnelly (donnelly@tampabay.rr.com) wrote: : (Or, if it's somebody you're working with often, have them install DeScribe : on whatever platform they have at their end and trade the DeScribe format : files back and forth, of course.) Well, duh. ;-) : > Of course, they won't be able to : > work on the document (unless it was a PDF document and they had the : > Adobe Acrobat product) but at least they can read it in the manner : > that it was originally supposed to look like. : That's the great thing about PDF, I think. They can't screw it up and see : it differently than you created it, no matter what they do. Exactly, and plus pretty much everyone has access to at least Acrobat Reader 3.0 which is all you need. As well, one normally finds it bundled on the CDROM that came with their Printer/Scanner/etc. So it is pretty easy to get access to. Same applies for PS, too with Ghostscript/Ghostview, to boot. : > This is late in coming, but I really have to compliment : > Describe Inc. for putting out a really good product. Even in : > spite of some of its drawbacks, it has majority of the features : > that one expects a word processor to have, is quick and light, and : > not to mention one heck of a bargain. It is just too bad that they : > went out of business. : Yeah, where were you when we needed to be buying them back from their : marketing foolishnesses? : Just joking. It's fun to see somebody discovering the amazing powers of : this program. Still my weapon of choice... I only got into OS/2 back on Feburary 1997. ;-) --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: St. John's InfoNET (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: mmellin@home.com 11-Nov-99 07:38:11 To: All 11-Nov-99 10:44:23 Subj: Re: Comm/2 v4.61 easter egg From: mmellin@home.com (Mark Mellin) On Wed, 10 Nov 1999 19:17:35, lifedata@xxvol.com wrote: > hunters@my-deja.com said: > > >This particular easter egg is all done with HTML and JavaScript. > > That's good? Two of the slowest most wasteful snails on earth and > that's good? Damn straight - best use I've seen for Java yet !! I don't know this Buddy fella is, but he must be the Scrooge of HDD space !! (I can just see him individually counting the bytes and frowning when he sees two bits missing from his HDD as caused by a NOP instruction !!) These programmers slave away in the bowels of faceless corporate America (I imagine that IBM is quite a "bowel") - the most recognition they'll probably see for their effort is; the end-user blankly staring at a clever little animation with their names.... Gimme a break - I wanted Netscape Comm for OS/2, I have my Netscape Comm for OS/2, I also got a small reminder of who worked their 'lil noggin's to bring this app to me (for free). So... relax, un-ass a few extra bytes (mebbe a K or two), sit back, watch the cool 'lil display of sweating coder's names go by, and say to yourself "GEEE - that's swell, these rubes brought me a OS/2 Netscape Communicator with a release number greater that 4.04 !!" -OR- unload Communicator and run the old IBM WebEx thingy, it will SAVE YOU TONS OF VERY IMPORTANT BYTES !!! Mark Mellin --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: @Home Network (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rdohrenburg@hotmail.com 11-Nov-99 01:22:12 To: All 11-Nov-99 10:44:23 Subj: Communicator/2 apply global filters. From: Robert Dohrenburg Hi, Is there a way to apply global filters instead of group by group? Thanks Robert, --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: EarthLink Network, Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: janswa@algonet.se 11-Nov-99 07:39:03 To: All 11-Nov-99 10:44:23 Subj: Re: Partition Magic 5.0 upgrade From: janswa@algonet.se (Jan Swartling) On Tue, 9 Nov 1999 02:14:44, "Hal Murray" wrote: > I tried Partition Magic 4 on my OS/2 drive and it destroyed my > extended partition. So I went back to Partition Magic 3 text version. > > I don't expect they addresses the Os/2 incompatibility in Version 5. Arer you sure that your extended partition was destroyed? It might just have been converted to a "0F" partition type, which OS/2 don't recognise. It's easy to restore to the previous "05"-partition type by running the included PTEDIT program. And I wouldn't call version 4 (or version 5) OS/2 incompatible. I find it quite easy to run the included OS/2 version from diskette. You can choose between a graphics and a text version. Jan Swartling Blue Soft Sweden --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Blue Soft (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: merlins@ibm.net 11-Nov-99 06:40:17 To: All 11-Nov-99 10:44:23 Subj: Re: Smack, CM2 won't run From: Meinolf Sondermann Hello Michael, Michael Robertson wrote: > > On Wed, 10 Nov 1999 14:59:14, esther@bitranch.com (Esther Schindler) > wrote: > > > If REXX isn't working, try running SWITCHRX from the command line. > > That will turn ObjectREXX on (or off), but at the least it may kick > > start REXX into working again. > > I did but it didn't. I must have done something during the last > three weeks or so that changed the environment but I can't remember > anything that might affect REXX. > > Michael > > ***Live simply, that others may simply live.*** When you run SWITCHRX , did it produce any errors ? If not, then your REXX installation is ok, as SWITCHRX is a REXX command file itself. If this is the case, then you're on the wrong road on hunting the errors with Smack and CM2. Bye/2 Meinolf --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: cbzh@my-deja.com 11-Nov-99 08:12:22 To: All 11-Nov-99 10:44:23 Subj: Re: The Describe 5 Diaries... From: cbzh@my-deja.com In article <80d6nu$njr$1@coranto.ucs.mun.ca>, jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong) wrote: > One feature that I have not found amongst any of the other > GUI based word processors is the ability to change most of the > menu/background colors. Microsoft Word 6.0c and Corel WordPerfect > 7, I know don't have this, neither did Lotus Word Pro 96. Now, > when I say that I mean something like back during the WordPerfect > 5.1 days, the ability to change ones background (mine was always > black) and the text (dark green for regular text with neon green > for the bold). Of course, none of this meant that your print outs > would come out in a black backdrop with green text, it was simply > the working enviornment that would look like this. [...much more about Describe...] Maybe one reason why some programs do not offer these coloring options any more: If a text processor supports colored documents and color printing you will get troubles! Interesting: You seem to have gone a similar way than I have, starting with WordPerfect/DOS to Describe/OS2, both being discontinued by their makers. Mine went on to "Papyrus" (OS/2) which comes from the Atari world AFAIK and which is still being further developed (It only seems that their plans and announcements go sometimes much further than their capabilities to realize things, but this looks familiar to everybody ever having programmed the one or other project :-)) See http://www.rom-logicware.com/start.htm where they are talking about the english language version of the program "coming out every moment"...: I hope for you it will really do! A main feature I will miss very much if I ever would need to switch again to another text processor is the possibility to mark discontinuous blocks of text, also using criteria like "mark everything that is bold" or "everything that is italic and 12pt", and then apply the one or other function on that block: I don't know any other text processor with this powerful capability! (I may have to mention that I have NO commercial relationship with ROM Logicware besides being a customer!) [..a lot of snipped text about import/export of text with images etc...] These problems are a real problem for everybody not using the latest M$ Word for the one or other reason, because the DOC format is taken for a quasi standard in many places where you are supposed to hand over your text in digital form; mostly in these cases the PostScript or PDF solutions you describe are not feasible because the others have to edit the text (but for digital publishing they are of course perfect). The technical side of the problem is mostly the crazy, continuously changing and only badly documented format "specification" for the DOC file format: Even if they want to and do their best, text processor programmers will _never_ be able to really fully support this format 1:1! One reason for this is also the strange and very old bug (probably supposed to be a "feature") of all M$-Word documents: They depend on the printer they are supposed to be printed with. This is the reson why even between different computers all using Word the same document may look different! Most other (modern) text programs do not have this problem. I run into it when I had to write a book project one year ago on a M$ Word system: I finally had to port the whole manuscript to a DTP program just for formatting the pages with _no_ extra formatting specials that are not "supported" by Word - in principle! Coming from OS/2 with Describe and Papyrus as mentioned I really had not expected such a silly behaviour at all! I'm again convinced to stay where I am with my system! Greetings, Cornelis PS: If you really like so much using plain text mode word processors: Did you ever try to do your work using TeX ?? Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: denis.radi@dem.si 10-Nov-99 13:58:27 To: All 11-Nov-99 10:44:23 Subj: Re: Bios/Large HD Install Question From: "Denis Radi" On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 16:48:48 -0400, Brad BARCLAY wrote: > Saving the old BIOS is almost a sort of sick joke: if the new BIOS >totally busticates your system, you won't be able to boot your system up >to resport the old BIOS. Such backups are useful if the new BIOS >introduces a minor bug, and you need to backout, but it doesn't protect >anyone who installs the wrong BIOS update. It does on ASUS P/I-P55TP4N. The bios chip has built in limited I/O functions to boot from floppy. And you must replace PCI display adapter with ISA. I was able to recover from flasing wrong bios after I found this hint in news group from someone working for Asus. By! -- Yours sincerely. Denis +------------------------------+----------------------------------+ | Denis Radi, SysAdmin | OS/2 Warp Server V4 Advanced SMP | | Dravske elektrarne Maribor + A highly reliable network OS | +------------------------------+----------------------------------+ | Tel: +386 62 3005168 | http://www.dem.si | | Fax: +386 62 3005655 | e-mail: denis.radi@dem.si | +------------------------------+----------------------------------+ --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Dravske Elektrarne Maribor d.o.o, Slovenia (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bd83h@bedford.waii.com 11-Nov-99 09:41:27 To: All 11-Nov-99 10:44:23 Subj: Comm/2 keeps bringing down my system. From: Steve Drewell My Warp 4 machine won't stay up for much more than a few days before it dies and the longest it's ever been up before crashing is 9 days. Most of the time it's just sitting there running the RC5DES client but it gets "proper" use during the evenings and weekends. Whenever it crashes, it seems more than coincidental that Comm/2 4.61 is running. Last night, after 4 days, it died and Process Commander showed that netscape.exe was trying to exit and so was the first instance of pmshell. Nothing could be done except reboot. Because I'm just a home user, it's not critical but it is annoying. I often hear people say that their machines have been up for weeks or months but why my machine won't stay up is beyond me. Maybe if I didn't run Comm/2 I'd not have a crash but that's not not really an option as there is no viable alternative to Comm/2. So, am I barking up the wrong tree? Is Comm/2 to blame or not? Has anyone else who keeps their machine running constantly had reason to suspect that Comm/2 brings down their machine? Any advice will be appreciated. Cheers, Steve Western Geophysical, Bedford, UK Tel: +44 (0) 1234 224404 Fax: +44 (0) 1234 224517 --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Western Geophysical, Houston, TX (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: ivan@protein.bio.msu.su 11-Nov-99 13:45:00 To: All 11-Nov-99 10:44:23 Subj: Re: Comm/2 keeps bringing down my system. From: "Ivan Adzhubei" In <991111085533.19114B-100000@bisv3.bedford.waii.com>, on 11/11/99 at 09:41 AM, Steve Drewell said: At which fixpak level your Warp 4 system is? I am having severe problems with FP12 here, with Comm 4.61 being pretty unusable since applying FP12 due to memory leak in pmmerge.dll (confirmed by people from IBM). Unofficial pmr00052 fix improves the situation a bit, but I still having occasional WPS hangs, mainly after attempting to exit Comm 4.61 and LSS 1.1. This system used to run in 24/7 mode very stably prior to FP12. Cheers, Ivan >My Warp 4 machine won't stay up for much more than a few days before it >dies and the longest it's ever been up before crashing is 9 days. Most >of the time it's just sitting there running the RC5DES client but it >gets "proper" use during the evenings and weekends. >Whenever it crashes, it seems more than coincidental that Comm/2 4.61 >is running. Last night, after 4 days, it died and Process Commander >showed that netscape.exe was trying to exit and so was the first >instance of pmshell. Nothing could be done except reboot. >Because I'm just a home user, it's not critical but it is annoying. I >often hear people say that their machines have been up for weeks or >months but why my machine won't stay up is beyond me. Maybe if I didn't >run Comm/2 I'd not have a crash but that's not not really an option as >there is no viable alternative to Comm/2. >So, am I barking up the wrong tree? Is Comm/2 to blame or not? Has >anyone else who keeps their machine running constantly had reason to >suspect that Comm/2 brings down their machine? >Any advice will be appreciated. >Cheers, >Steve >Western Geophysical, Bedford, UK >Tel: +44 (0) 1234 224404 >Fax: +44 (0) 1234 224517 -- ----------------------------------------------------------- "Ivan Adzhubei" ----------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Moscow State University (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: retsiemynnaht@spammoc.beoohaygon... 11-Nov-99 06:03:23 To: All 11-Nov-99 10:44:23 Subj: Re: Comm/2 keeps bringing down my system. Message sender: retsiemynnaht@spammoc.beoohaygone.net From: "Mike Ruskai" On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 09:41:55 +0000, Steve Drewell wrote: >My Warp 4 machine won't stay up for much more than a few days before it >dies and the longest it's ever been up before crashing is 9 days. Most of >the time it's just sitting there running the RC5DES client but it gets >"proper" use during the evenings and weekends. > >Whenever it crashes, it seems more than coincidental that Comm/2 4.61 is >running. Last night, after 4 days, it died and Process Commander showed >that netscape.exe was trying to exit and so was the first instance of >pmshell. Nothing could be done except reboot. > >Because I'm just a home user, it's not critical but it is annoying. I >often hear people say that their machines have been up for weeks or months >but why my machine won't stay up is beyond me. Maybe if I didn't run >Comm/2 I'd not have a crash but that's not not really an option as there >is no viable alternative to Comm/2. > >So, am I barking up the wrong tree? Is Comm/2 to blame or not? Has anyone >else who keeps their machine running constantly had reason to suspect that >Comm/2 brings down their machine? > >Any advice will be appreciated. The only problems I've had with Comm/2 were it triggering faults in my audio drivers (since corrected). You should see to it that you're running the latest revision. -- - Mike Remove 'spambegone.net' and reverse to send e-mail. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: TLF (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bd83h@bedford.waii.com 11-Nov-99 11:07:16 To: All 11-Nov-99 10:44:24 Subj: Re: Comm/2 keeps bringing down my system. From: Steve Drewell I'm at FP12 also. What's the unofficial pmr00052 fix??? On Thu, 11 Nov 1999, Ivan Adzhubei wrote: î At which fixpak level your Warp 4 system is? I am having severe problems î with FP12 here, with Comm 4.61 being pretty unusable since applying FP12 î due to memory leak in pmmerge.dll (confirmed by people from IBM). î Unofficial pmr00052 fix improves the situation a bit, but I still having î occasional WPS hangs, mainly after attempting to exit Comm 4.61 and LSS î 1.1. This system used to run in 24/7 mode very stably prior to FP12. î î Cheers, î Ivan î î >My Warp 4 machine won't stay up for much more than a few days before it î >dies and the longest it's ever been up before crashing is 9 days. Most î >of the time it's just sitting there running the RC5DES client but it î >gets "proper" use during the evenings and weekends. î î >Whenever it crashes, it seems more than coincidental that Comm/2 4.61 î >is running. Last night, after 4 days, it died and Process Commander î >showed that netscape.exe was trying to exit and so was the first î >instance of pmshell. Nothing could be done except reboot. î î >Because I'm just a home user, it's not critical but it is annoying. I î >often hear people say that their machines have been up for weeks or î >months but why my machine won't stay up is beyond me. Maybe if I didn't î >run Comm/2 I'd not have a crash but that's not not really an option as î >there is no viable alternative to Comm/2. î î >So, am I barking up the wrong tree? Is Comm/2 to blame or not? Has î >anyone else who keeps their machine running constantly had reason to î >suspect that Comm/2 brings down their machine? î î >Any advice will be appreciated. î î >Cheers, î >Steve î î >Western Geophysical, Bedford, UK î >Tel: +44 (0) 1234 224404 î >Fax: +44 (0) 1234 224517 î î î -- î ----------------------------------------------------------- î "Ivan Adzhubei" î ----------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Western Geophysical, Houston, TX (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: janswa@algonet.se 11-Nov-99 11:22:11 To: All 11-Nov-99 10:44:24 Subj: Re: Partition Magic 5.0 upgrade From: janswa@algonet.se (Jan Swartling) On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 03:59:50, egermain@mediaone.net (Edward Germain) wrote: > Partition Magic 5 does not respect the very clear, published and > strict rules that OS/2 uses to create logical partitions. It simply > will not work reliably. You can verify this: Ed, What response did you get from Powerquest when you reported this? Jan Swartling Blue Soft --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Blue Soft (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca 11-Nov-99 11:57:15 To: All 11-Nov-99 10:44:24 Subj: (1/2) Backup & Defragmentation 3.5 From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong) Backup & Defragmentation 3.5 This is just a little primer drawn up in order to help OS/2 users to use common compression utilities such as PkZip for backing up their OS/2 drives. Another use for this is also to fight against fragmentation. OS/2's HPFS file system does not fragment like the way FAT drives do, but it does become susceptible to it when the drive is almost full. So, the best remedy is to backup the data, format the partition, then unarchive the backup back to the original partition and you are back in business. Prior to doing this, be sure to create boot disks in order to compress/uncompress the backup files. You can use either the Create Utility Diskettes option in OS/2's System Folder or (a better option) use BootOS/2 in order to make them. BootOS/2 in particular is more advantageous since it would only need two 3.5" 1.44 MB diskettes over the three needed by OS/2 Warp 3 & Connect and the four for OS/2 Warp 4. Plus, one can also use LxLite compression with BootOS/2 in order to save that little extra bit of disk space necessary. As well, you can probably use it for an LS-120 or ZIP disk whereas the Utility Diskettes option would not support it. BootOS/2 can be found at the Hobbes OS/2 Archive (http://hobbes.nmsu.edu). LxLite can be found at LEO (http://www.leo.org) and possibly also at Hobbes. I'm sure some will ask, "But John, what about PowerQuest's Drive Image or Norton's Ghost?" Well, there really is no problem with those programs. They do as advertised, they backup the hard drive into an image. That image can be restored onto a single machine (or if you have the Drive Image Pro) onto a network of multiple machines. Unfortunately, the problem with disk imaging programs like those is that they do absolutely nothing about the fragmentation of the file system. Keep in mind, programs like Drive Image and Ghost simply make a *mirror* image of the hard drive's partitions. This means that not only does it copy the data, but also the holes that whatever file system left behind after days, months, years, etc. of disk thrashing. In a nut shell, Drive Image and Ghost not only copy the hard drive data, but also the fragmentation of the file system. This is where this little primer really comes into play. Of course, the advantage with something like Drive Image Pro is the ability to restore onto a multitude of networked computers. Something that would be a pretty big pain in the butt by this method. EXTRA: It is a good idea to make your backups booting through your bootdisks since there maybe locked files that won't be compressed. Locked files are files that are currently in use by OS/2 and will not allow any kind of manipulation from the user to take place. EXTRA EXTRA: Before making a backup, it maybe a good idea to run CHKDSK from the bootable floppies first. Another thing, make sure you run CHKDSK (CHKDSK X: /F:2) twice in a row. I picked up this little tidbit from the "OS/2 Warp Unleashed" book by SAMS Publishing (fine book, BTW). It is found in Chapter 18, dealing with troubleshooting on page 941: "Note that if you running HPFS, then you should periodically run CHKDSK C: /F:2 twice. The first pass checks and cleans the primary HPFS structures, and the second pass checks and clears the secondary HPFS structures." BTW: When I say it was tested personally under an OS/2 system, it means that I had tested it under a bootable OS/2 partition and not just a partition with data on it. DISCLAIMER: The only guarentee that I can possibly give is that the methods here work on the systems that I have tested. All bets are off for OS/2 Warp for e-Business I'm afraid since I do not have that. I no longer have OS/2 Warp 4 anymore, either (sold that). I'm strictly running OS/2 Warp Connect, but I don't expect much to be different from OS/2 Warp 4 though. Basically the same kernel and filesystem afterall. It is with OS/2 Warp for e- Business that is a little different since its kernel no longer has that memory addressing limitation and uses a different method of organizing its file system due to the addition of JFS. Updates: * Added DISCLAIMER * RAR/2 2.60 * ARJ/2 2.62 * Windows 95 - FAT32 * BootOS/2 9.26 To Do List: * Testing ARJ/2 2.6x once it gets out of beta. Just wondering, has there been any progress with this lately? ARJ is now at v2.70. *NEWS* Warp for e-Business *NEWS* Okay, now that you've seent this, I have read of a user on Usenet trying to use RAR/2 2.50 in order to backup their Warp for e-Business partition. It didn't work, apparently the EA's were trashed. Possibly this may have something to do with the new LVM and JFS. I don't know since I do not have Warp for e-Business, and thus have no way of verifying. So at this point in time it is best not to try using any of these methods for backing up Warp for e-Business. In the event if anyone is successful, please email me ASAP and give me the details. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Overall ----------------------------------------------------------------- Compression | Disk Spanning | Requires PM | Recovery | EA's | ----------------------------------------------------------------- PkZip/2 2.50 | Yes | Yes | Yes | Yes | Info-Zip 2.22 | No | No | Yes | Yes | RAR/2 2.60 | Yes | No | Yes | Yes | ARJ/2 2.62 Beta| Yes | No | Yes | No | ----------------------------------------------------------------- Disk Spanning: Ability to support multiple archives. Basically once the disk or cartridge is full, it can ask the user to insert another disk or cartridge in order for it continue. A Yes is good. Requires PM: Does the compression program require the PM, Presentation Manager. This is OS/2's GUI. A no is a good answer since it would be impossible to boot OS/2 up with regular floppies with the PM (unless it was a ZIP/LS-120 booting with A: drive). Recovery: Ability to recover/fix a corrupt archive, ie. PkZipFix. A yes here is a good answer. If the file is corrupt you can at least salvage something from it. EA's: Ability to save OS/2's Extended Attributes. A yes here is a must for OS/2. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Info-Zip for OS/2 (v2.22) http://www.cdrom.com/pub/infozip/ Works very well under OS/2. Use the following switches: zip -rS$ (destination/name of backup) * example: zip -rS$ F:\BACKUP.ZIP * Stick unzip.exe onto your OS/2 bootdisks, to restore the drive simply: unzip (name of backup) example: C: (being where I want it unzipped) unzip F:\BACKUP.ZIP Info-Zip is fine if you are just going to back it up to another partition or have a removable media drive large enough to fit it. Currently, Info-Zip is not able to handle disk spanning. It is a future feature to be added according to their home webpage when 3.0 comes out. Personally tested under a Warp 4 system (no FP's). ----------------------------------------------------------------- PkZip for OS/2 (v2.50) http://www.pkware.com Another that works well under OS/2. Perhaps a little better than Info-Zip since PkZip does handle disk spanning. Use the following switch: pkzip /add /attr=all /dir=full /rec /volume=(drive letter) (destination/name of backup) * example: pkzip /add /attr=all /dir=full /rec /volume=C F:\BACKUP.ZIP * To enable disk spanning, add the /span switch before the /volume one. Take note, use pkzip.exe, do not use pkzip2.cmd or else it will simply fail and just zip up the volume label in a file called "all.zip". Now to uncompress the archive, simply go: pkzip /attr=all /dir=full /extract /mask=none /rec /volume=C (destination/name of backup) example: pkzip /attr=all /dir=full /extract /mask=none /rec /volume=C F:\BACKUP.ZIP C: Personally tested under a Warp 4 system (no FP's). Extra Note: Apparently the geniuses at PkWare designed PkZip for OS/2 needing the Presentation Manager. So, using the boot disks from the Create Utility Disks function will not work. The only way for BootOS/2 to get this to work is with the TYPE=PM option. This of course will require a bootable device large enough to handle the extra data. So really you are going to need a bootable ZIP or LS-120 device in order to get this working. With that said, you can use unzip.exe in order to uncompress the pkzipped files. But, that has a problem too. Currently UnZip 5.40 will not be able to unzip multiple archives (like Zip 2.22). This is slated for the next major release (UnZip 6.00). ----------------------------------------------------------------- *UPDATED* RAR for OS/2 (v2.60) http://www.rarsoft.com So much for easiest. :-( The folks behind RAR are now combining the OS/2 and DOS versions together. Now that is not the problem I have with it, it is the fact that they are no longer going to provide a text-based shell for RAR does. After a couple of people emailed RARSOFT, the response they got back was that they have no intention of putting in a text-based shell anymore. So, RAR is relegated back to the rest of the command line utilities. Pity. It was a terrific and easy compression utility to use. I have kept the v2.50 instructions for anyone who still plans to use it, but be warned, there are some fixes that v2.60 brings that people maybe interested in. Here are the most notable fixes: 1. Both compression and speed have been improved for RAR archives. My thanks to Alexander Khoroshev and Bulat Ziganshin for hints, which allowed me to achieve this. 4. Previous RAR versions were not able to handle single files and archives larger than 2 GB. This limitation does not exist any more for RAR archives. The new limitation is slightly more than 8,589,934,591 GB, that practically means "unlimited". Note that Win-95/98 file systems cannot handle files larger than 4 GB, you need to use NTFS to work with such files. This improvement is valid only for RAR archives, 4 GB limitation for ZIP archives is not changed. 5. Significantly increased speed of scanning for large numbers of files before archiving operations. Memory management also is optimized, so now it is possible to handle hundreds of thousands, or even millions of files. WinRAR has been succesfully tested with over million files. 6. Console RAR shows the total percentage of processed data when archiving instead of the current file percentage as before. What is worse is that the RAR.TXT console manual is only distributed in the WinRAR 2.60 for Windows 95/98 file. I am just wondering if they are that intent on killing their DOS and OS/2 user base, but anyways... I have yet to get this to work unfortunately. :-( I tried this to backup my OS/2 boot drive (C:). C:\ rar32 a -m0 -r f:\test.rar It always comes out as "WARNING: No files added". Funny thing is, if I am in a directory it works. Like this: C:\UTILS rar32 a -r f:\test.rar Anything in my UTILS directory such as FM2UTILS will be archived properly. C:\UTILS\FM2UTILS \CDRECORD \ETC All that is compressed. Yet the thing is, if I am present in my C:\, then the warning message alluded to earlier will always appear. Did I miss anything? *OLD* RAR for OS/2 (v2.50) Easiest one to use due to its Norton Commander-like interface. Go into RAR's configuration (press F9, it is the first item on the menu) and make sure the following are checked on: X - Always Solid Archiving X - Put Recovery Record X - Read Only X - Hidden X - System X - Archive X - Save extended attributes It could also be a good idea to check on multimedia compression in order to get better compression. The rest is merely of choice, especially the compression (six methods to choose) whether to be for the best compression (slowest) or no compression at all in simply storing the files (fastest). In order to backup your OS/2 drive, simply hit the "+" key and push enter in order to highlight all the directories (or select whichever one's you intend to backup). Push F5 in order to compress onto a disk/cart and use Autodetect method in order to ensure spanning across disks/carts (or you can specify exactly what size you want). Very easy. Take Note: Do not use "UNRAR.EXE" to restore! Otherwise you will get a "Desktop can not be found in OS2.INI file, attempting to create Temporary Desktop" error message, where the Temperary Desktop will also fail, leaving you sitting at the PM with one OS/2 Window session. In order to restore, place RAR.EXE onto the OS/2 bootable diskettes. Start RAR.EXE up, now go to wherever you have the file backed up to, enter it, this will allow you view the files that are compressed inside the archived file. Once that is done, hit the "+" key and press enter in order to highlight all the files. Now, press ALT-F4 in order to restore by choosing the destination. Simply put in "C:" or wherever your original boot partition was. Once all of it extracted, there you go. I think we have a winner. Personally tested under a Warp 4 system (no FP's) and a Warp 3 system (FP40 applied). ----------------------------------------------------------------- ARJ/2 (v2.62) *UPDATE* http://hobbes.nmsu.edu I confess that I have not yet tested ARJ/2, but I wouldn't recommend using it just yet since it is still in a beta stage, and does not save EA's. But you could use EAUTIL in order to do this for you, but that is a bit of a chore especially since the other compression utilities here can do this automatically. So what would be the point? What's the point? Well, it looks like there is quite a good point now that RAR/2 has changed a bit. I am guilty of letting ARJ/2 go by the wayside. Hopefully I can make ammends by getting off my lazy duff and trying to figure out a way to get ARJ/2 working in this manner of B&D. Now, as I said earlier ARJ/2 is --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: St. John's InfoNET (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca 11-Nov-99 11:57:15 To: All 11-Nov-99 10:44:24 Subj: (2/2) Backup & Defragmentation 3.5 still in beta and does not save extended attributes. The EA's are as you know a pretty big deal for where OS/2 is concerned. Luckily there was help well before the ARJ/2 port was even started. EABACKUP & EARESTORE, two programs which make up EABK203.ZIP which can be downloaded from Hobbes. These utilities date way back to 1994! Their sole purpose of being is to backup/restore OS/2's extended attributes. Before I get started, be sure you use v2.61 and not v2.62, I remember getting an email from the guy making the port. He stated that there is a bug with v2.62, problem is I can't remember for the life of me on what that even was. I think it had something to do with the length of characters on a HPFS file name. So, best use v2.61 for now. You will also noticed that there is a LX compressed version available for download from Hobbes. Good idea to nab that one in order to stick onto the bootdisks. To backup OS/2, assuming your OS/2 drive is C: drive, run ARJ/2: arj a -a1 -b2 -jf -js -r -vvas X:/BACKUP.ARJ C: It will then go into its own command shell, just type in exit and it will start packing away. To adjust compression method, the syntax is -m<0-4>. 0 is for no compression (just storing), 1 is actually the best compression which is the default. 2-4 being lower, 4 beingt the fastest offering the least amount of compression. Now, there is a way to add build protection (-hk) but I would strongly recommend against it. I suppose this is like RAR/2's adding recovery record, but a warning to anyone using it, it takes forever just to complete. The (-va) is to enable the autodetection disk spanning. You can specify the amount if you wish (eg. -v1440 for 1.44 MB floppies). Now, to backup the EA's: EABACKUP C: X: /S This will create two files on the X: drive, EA@BDATA.EAB and EA@INDEX.EAB. Now you can format the C: drive. To restore, run: arj x X:/BACKUP.ARJ C: -vv -y Don't forget to restore the EA's! EARESTOR X: C: /S Now you are set, reboot and everything should now be working. Personally tested under a Warp 3 system (FP39 applied). ----------------------------------------------------------------- Note: I only intend to write about currently supported compression utilities. In otherwords, LHA and ZOO for instance I simply will ignore. Neither one has been updated since 1989-1993, and are relatively old and obsolete given the others listed here. Windows 95 - FAT32 (http://www.microsoft.com) - *UPDATED* So, you want to just dump OS/2 forever and head off into merry merry Windows 95 land? Well, I have not had the opportunity to try this using Windows 95 on a VFAT partition, but under FAT32, there is simply no way you can backup a Windows 95 partition using stuff like PkZip for Windows or WinRAR. The problem is that there are certain locked files at play. PkZip for Windows did complete, but now you have the even bigger problem of trying to restore it from a bootdisk. Won't happen, I'm afraid. When I tried this booting off of a Windows 95 boot disk, running PkZip 2.50's PkUnZip utility, it would not work because it complained of a lack of memory (apparently the FAT32 support on the bootdisk takes up a lot of memory as I'm always stuck with 542k conventional RAM). The last hope was RAR for DOS, but that too also complained of a lack of memory. So, what's the point of using a Windows compression utility in order to backup the entire Windows 95 partition if there is absolutely *NO* way of restoring it? Now, where exactly am I going with all this? Simple, thanks to the great FAT32 driver written by Henk Kelder, one can actually follow the exact methods listed here with the various compression utilities in order for OS/2 to backup Windows 95 through OS/2! Using RAR/2 in the identical manner listed earlier will allow you to backup a Windows 95 partition. Once backed up, you can boot up with the Windows 95 bootdisk and then format the partition, re-boot back into OS/2 and use RAR/2 in order to restore the Windows 95 partition back to its previous state. Now when you look at the disk with Norton Speedisk or booting Windows 95 up with a bootdisk in order to use ScanDisk (to see the entire disk information) you will see all the clusters neatly arranged in perfect order. No fragmentation! The advantage to using this method over using programs like Microsoft Defrag or Norton Speedisk is that they are not always perfect and can in fact at some times break files. My motivation in going to all of this trouble was because after using Defrag, I found that one of my .WAV files in my Multimedia Themes was broken and could not be accessible. Imagine what else could break. I have not tried using Info-ZIP or PkZip for OS/2, but I figure they would work with the same restrictions applied (ie. Info-Zip no disk spanning, PkZip needing the Presentation Manager). In order to install Henk's FAT32 driver, I simply followed the quicky instructions he had listed in the FAT32.TXT file, using PARTFLT.FLT and not the OS2DASD.DMD file he had modifyed (on my OS/2 box it trapped as a result). On the IFS=FAT32 line I did not have /EAS on (enabling Extended Attribute support). So, do you *really* want to dump OS/2? Didn't think so. A question...could this method work with Linux? There is a ext2 driver available for OS/2, that I know of. Perhaps that is something else for me to try and play with! ;-) Ok, I may have jumped the gun here. ;-) Apparently there is a way to do this under Windows 95 and I'll assume Windows 98. I won't bother detailing the methods but it will require a piece of shareware called DOSLFNBK in order to backup its long file names. But, it is nice to know that one can do this within OS/2 anyways. I am definately going to find out whether or not one can do this with Linux. There is an ext2 file system driver available for OS/2. The reason why is that I see no way of actually doing this under Linux. CONCLUSION The best compression program for backing up OS/2 with should by right be RAR/2, but I can't get it working properly. So the title for "Best Compression Utility" is essential up for grabs. However, for those that have been using RAR/2 2.50 without any problems should probably keep doing so. I just hope that the newest version of RAR/2 can be made to work since it does offer some fixes. As for the other compression utilities, each and everyone one has their own little drawback. Info-Zip is great, until you want it to span across multiple disks/carts. PkZip was almost the one, but the folks at PkWare thought it was necessary that the Presentation Manager be loaded with it, too. The only real drawback that ARJ/2 has is that it is still labelled as beta software and I have not heard anything about it in the past year. Ironically enough, the heir apparent to RAR/2 2.50 looks like it is a piece of beta software. That's right. ARJ/2. Only you will need EABK203.ZIP from Hobbes in order to really get it working. Hopefully, by the time ARJ/2 gets out of beta, one would not need EABK203.ZIP anymore. So for the people that have been having problems with RAR/2 2.50 with the new OS/2 Warp for e- Business, give ARJ/2 a go and report back to me. BOOTOS/2 Notes: *UPDATE* http://hobbes.nmsu.edu - latest version is 9.26 The documentation in the latest version of BootOS/2 (9.26) states that the problem being described later is supposed to be now fixed. There seems to be a problem with Warp Connect & FP39 when trying to make a BootOS/2 TARGET=x TYPE=PM partition. It creates it fine, but when I boot it up, it freezes at the "OS/2" box that appears on the top left-hand corner. Weird. I could not boot to a PM partition (BOOTOS2 TARGET=x TYPE=PM) even when I was back down in FP26! Same symptom occurs, during bootup it just freezes at the "OS/2" box on the top left-hand corner. The samething also occurs in FP40, BTW. Even making just the floppies seems to cause a small error with Warp 3 & Connect. Under FP40, for instance, upon making the two disk system (BOOTOS2 2DISK=A) after loading up the first disk it would give me a blank screen and stop dead in its tracks, going no further. The solution, copy SESMGR.DLL from your x:\OS2\DLL onto your BOOTOS2 disk 1 (A:\OS2\DLL). This also happened under FP39, BTW. If you do run into any other kind of problem with the BOOTOS2 floppies, press ALT-F2 upon booting up the diskettes just to see what happens. On this occasion for example, upon pressing ALT-F2, the screen said that SESMGR.DLL was not installed in any of the LIBPATH directory statements on the diskette. Warp 4 seems to have absolutely no issues whatsoever, either a TYPE=PM or 2DISK=A under any of the FP's I have used (FP1, FP6, & FP10). --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: St. John's InfoNET (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca 11-Nov-99 11:53:06 To: All 11-Nov-99 10:44:24 Subj: Re: The Describe 5 Diaries... From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong) cbzh@my-deja.com wrote: : text in digital form; mostly in these cases the PostScript or PDF : solutions you describe are not feasible because the others have to edit : the text (but for digital publishing they are of course perfect). True, PS/PDF are not exactly formats that allow one to edit, but it would be fun to scream at the other person, "What?!? You mean you *don't* have Adobe Acrobat Writer! What kind of a dumbass are you!" :-) : technical side of the problem is mostly the crazy, continuously changing : and only badly documented format "specification" for the DOC file : format: Even if they want to and do their best, text processor : programmers will _never_ be able to really fully support this format : 1:1! No kidding. MS has made their Word format a moving target. Hell, they even screw themselves on it sometimes. Anyone running Word 2000 trying to open a Word 2.0 or Word 5.5 document are almost helpless. The best is probably WordPerfect when it comes to working with their own file formats. Working between WordPerfect 8 and WordPerfect 5.1 is pretty good in comparision with Word 2000 to say Word 5.5. : PS: If you really like so much using plain text mode word processors: : Did you ever try to do your work using TeX ?? I've heard about TeX and LaTex a lot but had never the time to look into it more. Is it easy to pick up? --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: St. John's InfoNET (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: ivan@protein.bio.msu.su 11-Nov-99 15:03:22 To: All 11-Nov-99 10:44:24 Subj: Re: Comm/2 keeps bringing down my system. From: "Ivan Adzhubei" In <991111110434.19114D-100000@bisv3.bedford.waii.com>, on 11/11/99 at 11:07 AM, Steve Drewell said: Steve, PMR00052.ZIP was posted on testcase.boulder.ibm.com a couple of weeks ago. You can grab a copy from my ftp: ftp://protein.bio.msu.su/pub/os2/fixes/pmr00052.zip It also contains a replacement keyboard.dcp. Just reboot in command line or using boot floppies, rename FP12 versions of the corresponding files on your system (\OS2\KEYBOARD.DCP and \OS2\DLL\PMMERGE.DLL) and copy over fixed versions, then reboot again. It does not fix all of my problems with FP12, but at least I can use my system for more than one day now :). There's another unofficial post-FP12 fix available, with a new version of kernel, but I did not tried it yet. Cheers, Ivan P.S. Sorry for poor access to my server, our Internet connectivity really sucks at the moment :-(. Please, use wget or any other FTP client supporting REST option. >I'm at FP12 also. What's the unofficial pmr00052 fix??? >On Thu, 11 Nov 1999, Ivan Adzhubei wrote: >î At which fixpak level your Warp 4 system is? I am having severe >problems î with FP12 here, with Comm 4.61 being pretty unusable since >applying FP12 î due to memory leak in pmmerge.dll (confirmed by people >from IBM). î Unofficial pmr00052 fix improves the situation a bit, but >I still having î occasional WPS hangs, mainly after attempting to exit >Comm 4.61 and LSS î 1.1. This system used to run in 24/7 mode very >stably prior to FP12. î >î Cheers, >î Ivan >î >î >My Warp 4 machine won't stay up for much more than a few days before >it î >dies and the longest it's ever been up before crashing is 9 days. >Most î >of the time it's just sitting there running the RC5DES client >but it î >gets "proper" use during the evenings and weekends. >î >î >Whenever it crashes, it seems more than coincidental that Comm/2 >4.61 î >is running. Last night, after 4 days, it died and Process >Commander î >showed that netscape.exe was trying to exit and so was the >first î >instance of pmshell. Nothing could be done except reboot. î >î >Because I'm just a home user, it's not critical but it is annoying. >I î >often hear people say that their machines have been up for weeks >or î >months but why my machine won't stay up is beyond me. Maybe if I >didn't î >run Comm/2 I'd not have a crash but that's not not really an >option as î >there is no viable alternative to Comm/2. >î >î >So, am I barking up the wrong tree? Is Comm/2 to blame or not? Has ¯ >>anyone else who keeps their machine running constantly had reason to >î >suspect that Comm/2 brings down their machine? >î >î >Any advice will be appreciated. >î >î >Cheers, >î >Steve >î >î >Western Geophysical, Bedford, UK >î >Tel: +44 (0) 1234 224404 >î >Fax: +44 (0) 1234 224517 >î >î >î -- >î ----------------------------------------------------------- >î "Ivan Adzhubei" >î ----------------------------------------------------------- -- ----------------------------------------------------------- "Ivan Adzhubei" ----------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Moscow State University (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com 11-Nov-99 07:50:00 To: All 11-Nov-99 10:44:24 Subj: Re: Comm/2 v4.61 easter egg From: Bob Germer On <382A56B5.54B25260@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com>, on 11/11/99 at 05:43 AM, "Jeffrey S. Kobal" said: > > Or am I out of step with the marketplace here? > Yes, you are. And, in my opinion, completely out of line. The very first time I ran the egg, you won, Jeffrey. Is that coded into it or was it pure random chance? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------- Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: bobg@Pics.com Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 12 MR/2 Ice Registration Number 67 Aut Pax Aut Bellum ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com 11-Nov-99 07:59:04 To: All 11-Nov-99 10:44:24 Subj: Re: Comm/2 v4.61 easter egg From: Bob Germer On , on 11/10/99 at 01:27 PM, donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) said: > Or am I out of step with the marketplace here? Y'all want everybody's > systems everywhere loaded down with junk like this, instead of having > trim, solid, stable, secure, fast-working browsers? All in favor, raise > your cotton candy cones over your empty heads and wave them. Chill out! The little egg takes less than 4K bytes. If you want to complain, complain about aaaaa.exe which is installed every time you load Warp. That little egg takes up about 99K. Anyone remember the key combination to run this one? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------- Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: bobg@Pics.com Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 12 MR/2 Ice Registration Number 67 Aut Pax Aut Bellum ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: cmhall@umich.edu 11-Nov-99 13:28:04 To: All 11-Nov-99 14:39:01 Subj: Re: Printing won't start from Win-OS2 From: cmhall@umich.edu (Chris Hall) In <9ddCdfeFk555-pn2-O1oxFF7t6x8l@localhost>, fwkirk@ibm.net (Frank Kirk) writes: >On Tue, 9 Nov 1999 13:32:35, cmhall@umich.edu (Chris Hall) wrote: > >> I just installed an HP LJ 1100 and OS/2 printing works fine. DOS printing >> is fine. However, when printing from Win-OS2, the printer won't accept >> characters until it's "jostled", either by hitting the "Go" button (which also snip > > Is your Win-OS2 default printer set to LPT1? If so, you probably >need to change it to LPT1.OS2. > >FWK No, this doesn't help. What has helped a lot is removing all printers and recreating them fresh, so there was some problem with the spooling system. Now, it usually prints, but occasionally needs a kick, either from Win-OS2 or now sometimes even from OS/2 printing. Chris Hall (cmhall@umich.edu) Dept. of Geological Sciences, U. of Michigan "They use Microsoft Excel to plot their data. Sometimes they get the results they expect, sometimes they don't." from Microsoft TV commercial, 1999. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: letoured@nospam.net 11-Nov-99 08:32:04 To: All 11-Nov-99 14:39:01 Subj: Re: The Describe 5 Diaries... From: letoured@nospam.net >A main feature I will miss very much if I ever would need to switch again >to another text processor is the possibility to mark discontinuous blocks >of text, also using criteria like "mark everything that is bold" or >"everything that is italic and 12pt", and then apply the one or other >function on that block: I don't know any other text processor with this >powerful capability! FrameMaker can. It also handles color. Of course it costs more. _____________ Ed Letourneau --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: cbzh@my-deja.com 11-Nov-99 14:11:24 To: All 11-Nov-99 14:39:01 Subj: Re: The Describe 5 Diaries... From: cbzh@my-deja.com In article <80ean8$8d5$1@coranto.ucs.mun.ca>, jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong) wrote: [...] > : PS: If you really like so much using plain text mode word processors: > : Did you ever try to do your work using TeX ?? > > I've heard about TeX and LaTex a lot but had never the time to > look into it more. Is it easy to pick up? I'm sure it takes a while to get into it: It is rather a "document compiler" than a text processor in the sense we are used to today, but it seems to be rather good after what I heard ;-) Right now I am downloading it with the intention to give it a second try. When I did that the last time some years ago I had two problems: 1. Resources: With my "big" 100MB hard disk I run into problems with the font files. In the meantime hard disks have grown AND Tex/LaTeX seems to support Adobe Type1 fonts: I will see... 2. Support for non-english languages was, well, a bit rudimentary: You could not just use Umlaut or accented characters, but they had to be entered with a special prefix, like "a for ä (a Umlaut in case you get it wrong...). So I could not even write my name properly... This has changed now as well. I will also have to look around what tools there are by now to make the writing/viewing/printing cycle as comfortable as possible: We will see... Greetings, Cornelis Bockemühl cbockem@datacomm.ch Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: l_luciano@da.mob 11-Nov-99 14:29:06 To: All 11-Nov-99 14:39:01 Subj: Re: The Describe 5 Diaries... From: l_luciano@da.mob (Stan Goodman) On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:12:44, cbzh@my-deja.com wrote: > In article <80d6nu$njr$1@coranto.ucs.mun.ca>, > jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong) wrote: ---------------snip---------------- > Interesting: You seem to have gone a similar way than I have, starting > with WordPerfect/DOS to Describe/OS2, both being discontinued by their > makers. Mine went on to "Papyrus" (OS/2) which comes from the Atari > world AFAIK and which is still being further developed (It only seems > that their plans and announcements go sometimes much further than their > capabilities to realize things, but this looks familiar to everybody > ever having programmed the one or other project :-)) See > http://www.rom-logicware.com/start.htm where they are talking about the > english language version of the program "coming out every moment"...: I > hope for you it will really do! FWIW, they were talking about "an English version any moment" two years ago. The more things change, the more they are the same. ---------------snip---------------- ------------- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel Spammers are getting smarter; email sent to l_luciano@da.mob will not reach me. Sorry. Send E-mail to: domain: hashkedim dot com, username: stan.  --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Verio (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com 11-Nov-99 14:36:26 To: All 11-Nov-99 14:39:01 Subj: Re: Comm/2 v4.61 easter egg From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" Bob Germer wrote: > The very first time I ran the egg, you won, Jeffrey. Is that coded into it > or was it pure random chance? It uses the Random function of Javascript, so it's as "pure random chance" as any other computer algorithm. Jeffrey S. Kobal IBM Corporation --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bd83h@bedford.waii.com 11-Nov-99 14:33:25 To: All 11-Nov-99 14:39:01 Subj: Re: Comm/2 keeps bringing down my system. From: Steve Drewell Thanks for the info, Ivan. I'll give it a try and see how I get on. Cheers, Steve Western Geophysical, Bedford, UK Tel: +44 (0) 1234 224404 Fax: +44 (0) 1234 224517 On Thu, 11 Nov 1999, Ivan Adzhubei wrote: î Steve, î î PMR00052.ZIP was posted on testcase.boulder.ibm.com a couple of weeks î ago. You can grab a copy from my ftp: î î ftp://protein.bio.msu.su/pub/os2/fixes/pmr00052.zip î î It also contains a replacement keyboard.dcp. Just reboot in command line î or using boot floppies, rename FP12 versions of the corresponding files î on your system (\OS2\KEYBOARD.DCP and \OS2\DLL\PMMERGE.DLL) and copy î over fixed versions, then reboot again. î î It does not fix all of my problems with FP12, but at least I can use my î system for more than one day now :). î î There's another unofficial post-FP12 fix available, with a new version î of kernel, but I did not tried it yet. î î Cheers, î Ivan î î P.S. Sorry for poor access to my server, our Internet connectivity î really sucks at the moment :-(. Please, use wget or any other FTP client î supporting REST option. î î >I'm at FP12 also. What's the unofficial pmr00052 fix??? [..snip..] --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Western Geophysical, Houston, TX (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com 11-Nov-99 14:37:19 To: All 11-Nov-99 14:39:01 Subj: Re: Comm/2 v4.61 easter egg From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" Bob Germer wrote: > Chill out! The little egg takes less than 4K bytes. If you want to > complain, complain about aaaaa.exe which is installed every time you load > Warp. That little egg takes up about 99K. > > Anyone remember the key combination to run this one? Ctrl-Alt-Shift-O after clicking on the WPS desktop. Jeffrey S. Kobal IBM Corporation --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: letoured@nospam.net 11-Nov-99 09:36:28 To: All 11-Nov-99 14:39:01 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: letoured@nospam.net David H. McCoy said: >Twice in a row I made your mom feel like a real woman. Having you did >turn her off to sex, but I fixed that. >Would you like pictures of her and me together? She is one great piece of >ass. Are you an out-patient? Its been a long time since I've had Abnormal Psychology, but your constant obsession with your pee pee is a manifestation of a serious derangement that needs treatment. _____________ Ed Letourneau --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com 11-Nov-99 09:43:25 To: All 11-Nov-99 14:39:01 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: Bob Germer On <382ad48a$3$yrgbherq$mr2ice@news.sover.net>, on 11/11/99 at 09:36 AM, letoured@nospam.net said: > Are you an out-patient? Nah, they have computers in nut houses these days. > Its been a long time since I've had Abnormal Psychology, but your > constant obsession with your pee pee is a manifestation of a serious > derangement that needs treatment. Amen! -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------- Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: bobg@Pics.com Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 12 MR/2 Ice Registration Number 67 Aut Pax Aut Bellum ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: kenkahn@us.ibm.com 11-Nov-99 09:45:04 To: All 11-Nov-99 14:39:01 Subj: Re: Comm/2 v4.61 easter egg From: Kenneth Kahn > All easter eggs are grotesque wastes of resources If you're running a WARP4 system then, you better not make the desktop the foreground/active window (click anywhere on it) and issue Ctrl-Alt-Shift-O (requires additional bitmaps to be installed; I don't remember if this works for WARP3). Ken Kahn - IBM P/390 Software Development (and BOOTOS2 Author) Internet : kenkahn@us.ibm.com Lotus : Kenneth Kahn/Poughkeepsie/IBM@IBMUS VM : kenkahn@ibmusm10 --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: IBM Poughkeepsie (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca 11-Nov-99 15:07:16 To: All 11-Nov-99 14:39:01 Subj: Re: Comm/2 v4.61 easter egg From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 14:45:08, Kenneth Kahn wrote: > If you're running a WARP4 system then, you better not make the desktop the > foreground/active > window (click anywhere on it) and issue Ctrl-Alt-Shift-O (requires additional > bitmaps to be > installed; I don't remember if this works for WARP3). > And it's sttill there in Warp 4.5 (WSeB) Lorne Sunley --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: MBnet Networking Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: wpotato@hotmail.com 11-Nov-99 15:32:13 To: All 11-Nov-99 14:39:02 Subj: difference between OS/2 warp server and OS/2 warp 4.. From: wpotato@hotmail.com (Christopher) hai: i really need some explanation here. to all the OS/2 user out there, could anyone tell me that what is the difference between OS/2 Warp server and OS/2 Warp 4? i am thinking of using OS/2 Warp 4 but what i have got from my uncle is OS/2 Warp server. are they the same and if it's not, what's the difference between those? the answer is needed in urgent. thanks in advance for your answer. please reply to my mail box: wpotatoii@yahoo.com. thanks again. christ. Malaysia. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: TMnet Malaysia (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: abeagley@datatone.com 11-Nov-99 10:47:28 To: All 11-Nov-99 14:39:02 Subj: Re: difference between OS/2 warp server and OS/2 warp 4.. From: Alan Beagley [Posted and mailed] Warp Server has features that are not in Warp 4, but it is based on Warp 3. I believe it is possible to add the Warp Server features to Warp 4. Alan Christopher wrote: > hai: > > i really need some explanation here. > to all the OS/2 user out there, could anyone tell me that what > is the difference between OS/2 Warp server and OS/2 Warp 4? > > i am thinking of using OS/2 Warp 4 but what i have got from my > uncle is OS/2 Warp server. are they the same and if it's not, what's > the difference between those? > > the answer is needed in urgent. thanks in advance for your > answer. please reply to my mail box: > > wpotatoii@yahoo.com. > > thanks again. > > christ. > Malaysia. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: cbzh@my-deja.com 11-Nov-99 15:39:23 To: All 11-Nov-99 14:39:02 Subj: Re: The Describe 5 Diaries... From: cbzh@my-deja.com In article <382ac559$2$yrgbherq$mr2ice@news.sover.net>, letoured@nospam.net wrote: > >A main feature I will miss very much if I ever would need to switch again > >to another text processor is the possibility to mark discontinuous blocks > >of text, also using criteria like "mark everything that is bold" or > >"everything that is italic and 12pt", and then apply the one or other > >function on that block: I don't know any other text processor with this > >powerful capability! > > FrameMaker can. It also handles color. Of course it costs more. > ...and doesn't probably come on 2 or 3 _diskettes_ (not CDs !!), including dictionaries for several languages... ...and doesn't run on OS/2, AFAIK... ...and finally plays in another ligue: "DTP" vs. "text processors"... Cornelis Bockemühl > _____________ > Ed Letourneau > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: wwiv@pppproject.org 11-Nov-99 09:54:27 To: All 11-Nov-99 14:39:02 Subj: bootos2 From: "Dilbert Firestorm" I can't get bootos2 working at all. I tried to create a maintence boot partition where the swap partition is located which is on drive D:. The OS/2 is on drive E:. It gives me an error message "invalid invocation parameter e:\" I'm using a newly refreshed Warp 3.0 fixpak 38 what am doing wrong? Origin: Nuclear Wasteland * 504-394-0509 --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Nuclear Wasteland * 504-394-0509 (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com 11-Nov-99 15:50:17 To: All 11-Nov-99 14:39:02 Subj: Re: Comm/2 v4.61 easter egg From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 05:51:52, "Jeffrey S. Kobal" a Úcrit dans un message: > Buddy Donnelly wrote: > > > For kicks, look at the Warp credits Easter Egg, and try to find more than > > 10 of those names still at IBM. > > You'll find both Mike and myself in that list, if you wait around > long enough for the K's, plus a couple of others from our team. > And certainly more than 10 in total. Thanks for the report. It's good to hear that, because of course there *are* a lot of them that went missing after the move from Boca Raton. And then again after Warp 4 was released. > > But should I have admitted that? Oh, no... that means my > name is taking up TWICE as much space on your hard drive, > being in the credits for both Warp and Communicator! Oh, > the horror of waste! Yes, well, either you're a believer in Low Impact Living or you're not. Resources are *not* infinite, none of them are, and the sooner we all begin acting like they're precious, the better our chances of not souring this beautiful planet into a stagnant algae pond. NETSCAPE.EXE unLXLITEs into an about 8,000,000 byte executable. Forgive me and correct me quickly if I'm misinformed about how these things operate, but doesn't that mean it takes up that much RAM, first, when you click on it? Is there any precedent for having a single OS/2 executable that big? > > Ah, never mind... you said you deleted that other metafile, > so it's safe. Whew, that was a close one. Don't worry, it will show up again after the next time I do an Install, right? The point is, I was able to delete it after I'd read it once. Those damnable things built inside NETSCAPE.EXE are not electables, and they're sucking resources every tick of the clock. I'm the trashy type and like my playpretties as much as the next feller, and have my desktop junked up with animated cursors and CandyBar titlebars and NPSWPS and so on, but I am not forced to do it so I like them better. (And when I have to get things working on a laptop, I leave them out to make it run visibly better. Loading any Netscape/2 past 2.02 on the laptop brings the system to a shuddering halt.) -- Good luck, Buddy Buddy Donnelly donnelly@tampabay.rr.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: RoadRunner - TampaBay (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com 11-Nov-99 15:50:19 To: All 11-Nov-99 14:39:02 Subj: Re: Comm/2 v4.61 easter egg From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 07:38:23, mmellin@home.com (Mark Mellin) a Úcrit dans un message: > > I don't know this Buddy fella is, but he must be the Scrooge of > HDD space !! (I can just see him individually counting the bytes > and frowning when he sees two bits missing from his HDD as caused > by a NOP instruction !!) God, don't ya know it! I've done that! I even search for and delete PURCHASE.EXE and FILE_ID.DIZ files that are both small and don't get in the way. Luckily, they don't load into RAM every time I want to check the WX. > > These programmers slave away in the bowels of faceless corporate > America (I imagine that IBM is quite a "bowel") - the most > recognition they'll probably see for their effort is; the end-user > blankly staring at a clever little animation with their names.... No complaint whatsoever with these folks giving themselves credit. The question is, what's the best way to do it? In this case, they picked the worst way, and it costs us all actual money to deal with it. snipt > > -OR- unload Communicator and run the old IBM WebEx thingy, it will > SAVE YOU TONS OF VERY IMPORTANT BYTES !!! You're right, it does. It's still my first choice browser, on any machine, mainly because goes from site to site much faster. I kick start Netscape only to access sites written for frames, or Javascript I actually want to make use of. (I've got SmartCache set up to share cache between the two, which works really really well to speed things up when I decide to use Netscape instead.) -- Good luck, Buddy Buddy Donnelly donnelly@tampabay.rr.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: RoadRunner - TampaBay (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: mikelrob@flash.net 11-Nov-99 15:57:12 To: All 11-Nov-99 14:39:02 Subj: Re: Smack, CM2 won't run From: mikelrob@flash.net (Michael Robertson) On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 05:40:34, Meinolf Sondermann wrote: > Hello Michael, > > Michael Robertson wrote: > > > > On Wed, 10 Nov 1999 14:59:14, esther@bitranch.com (Esther Schindler) > > wrote: > > > > > If REXX isn't working, try running SWITCHRX from the command line. > > > That will turn ObjectREXX on (or off), but at the least it may kick > > > start REXX into working again. > > > > I did but it didn't. I must have done something during the last > > three weeks or so that changed the environment but I can't remember > > anything that might affect REXX. > > > > Michael > > > > ***Live simply, that others may simply live.*** > > When you run SWITCHRX , did it produce any errors ? > If not, then your REXX installation is ok, as SWITCHRX is a > REXX command file itself. > If this is the case, then you're on the wrong road on hunting the > errors with Smack and CM2. > > Bye/2 > Meinolf When I ran SWITCHRX it didn't produce anything, just a return to the command line. I'm somewhat embarrassed to say that it finally occurred to me to use an earlier archive of my desktop. When I did so, Smack, CM2 and the REXX sample program all worked so I assume Esther was right and I had made a change in my PATH or LIBPATH statements. I sort of wish I had saved the statements from the disfunctional desktop to compare them. In the eight years or so I've been using OS/2, I've never seen this symptom. Thanks to you and Esther for your suggestions. Michael ***Live simply, that others may simply live.*** --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: FlashNet Communications, http://www.flash.net (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nenad@my-deja.com 11-Nov-99 16:13:10 To: All 11-Nov-99 14:39:02 Subj: Re: Comm/2 v4.61 easter egg From: Nenad Milenkovic donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) wrote: > Where have all the coders gone? Long time, over. Dead opposite > attitude, there. > > Even though RAM is cheaper than it was in 1977, they should still be > thinking, "Goodie, I can chop *another* 4K from this pig." Knowing > that it gets multiplied the world over. Such optimizations ususally makes maintenance harder. Nenad Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jkobal@NOSPAMus.ibm.com 11-Nov-99 14:31:05 To: All 11-Nov-99 16:48:03 Subj: Re: Comm/2 v4.61 easter egg From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" Buddy Donnelly wrote: > Thanks for the report. It's good to hear that, because of course there > *are* a lot of them that went missing after the move from Boca Raton. And > then again after Warp 4 was released. People come and go all the time, but you are obviously making some assumptions about which you couldn't possibly have all of the details. > Yes, well, either you're a believer in Low Impact Living or you're not. I guess I'm not. I try not to be exorbitantly wasteful, but I won't sacrifice my own enjoyment just for the purpose of conservation. > Is there any precedent for having a single OS/2 executable that big? Probably, but that's a moot point. That's how Netscape designed it, and that's how it is. If the next version they produce is more modular, then ours will be too (if we do another port, of course). > The point is, I was able to delete it after I'd read it once. Those > damnable things built inside NETSCAPE.EXE are not electables, and they're > sucking resources every tick of the clock. There's no way we'd have gotten approval to add a new file to the installation to lay down just the authors page separately. As for the rest of the "damnable" embedded HTML in the program, there is necessary stuff there (like program info, page templates, etc).... You really have no idea how much "wasted" space there is with every program you have, do you? I bet you cringe when you crack open a new book and see that blank sheet before the title page. Heck, why have a title page at all, when the title is on the cover? Those wasteful heathens.... Jeffrey S. Kobal IBM Corporation --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: IBM Corporation (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jkobal@NOSPAMus.ibm.com 11-Nov-99 14:45:27 To: All 11-Nov-99 16:48:03 Subj: Re: Comm/2 v4.61 easter egg From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" Buddy Donnelly wrote: > So, you not only get to learn new languages on company time Yup! In fact, they'll even send us to classes during work hours so we can learn new languages and other stuff! Cool, huh? That's calling "keeping up with current technologies", which is a very important part of staying competitive in the marketplace. > I hope you made use of the built-in Javascript debugger ("mocha:") as you > were working? It's pretty handy for that purpose, actually, and I see it's > still in there. Yes, I did. (You can use "javascript:" as well...) > By the way, most Javascript is used on websites as client-side script, and > it's a lot more efficient for the world at large to do as much as possible > on the server. Javascript is becoming a more and more widely used language for Internet-technology purposes, both client and server-side. > So, instead of pointing to an Internet URL (like the Fishcam, still at > Ctrl-Alt-F) or even a quick jump to an external file, as with about:marca > and about:timm ) All of those are Internet URLs. We don't have that flexibility. > it's all built inside the executable and loaded into RAM > (along with all the other InternalURL "features") on everybody's machine > every time it's loaded? Yup! Want me to add in a special bit just to appear on your machine next time? > I'm not begrudging you your publishing of your opinion, but I'm sorry you > can't see the potential value to everybody of at least considering, and > thinking about, these issues. I'm afraid I've succumbed to the deadly sin of vanity, and didn't think that adding 2K to a 10MB download was a really big deal. Would you be happy if we just took out the racing stuff, or do I have to remove the entire list of names from the credits? How can I atone for my terrible transgression? > We're talking Physical Laws of Nature, here, so, no hard feelings. You'll > come around, someday. You'll have to. The sky will be falling. Stock prices > will be dropping off the edge of the earth, just like in 1987, only this > time everybody will be trying to use not their telephones but their > browsers to get through to SellSellSell and won't be able to. BMWs will get > repoed, houses will go on the market, laid-off wageearners will turn to > strong drink and start beating their spouses. All because of that one > innocent little undeletable Easter Egg. Nice to see a strong proponent of Chaos Theory. Please stop... I'm laughing so hard, I might cause a nearby butterfly to flap its wings a little differently, which might alter the flow of pollen in the air, causing a seed to alight upon a pile of dirt and grow into a flower, which a small child will notice and be distracted from catching the pop fly baseball coming towards him.... oh, what have I done?!? Jeffrey S. Kobal IBM Corporation --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: IBM Corporation (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rubbe@ibm.net 11-Nov-99 18:37:10 To: All 11-Nov-99 16:48:03 Subj: Re: Pilot Desktop From: Cassio Roberto Pellegrim Thanks Bob, it works, but it has some problems ... Trying to use "Expense" gets a message about W32SCOMB.DLL : "Function ... is not at W32SCOMB.DLL" The same error occurs when trying to use the HOTSYNC ... All other functions is working ... I've tried to copy W32SCOMB.DLL from WIN32S 1.30 but after this I get a message that WINDOWS doesn't have suficient memory to load the aplication ... Do you have this same problems ?? I'm using PILOT DESKTOP for PALM PROFESSIONAL (3120PRO.EXE) ... Thanks ... Cassio Roberto Pellegrim CasRob@br.ibm.com Bob Eager wrote: > On Wed, 10 Nov 1999 13:42:07, Cassio Roberto Pellegrim > wrote: > > > It's about how to run Pilot Desktop 1.0 (Win32S 1.30) at WINOS/2 .... > > > > We're waiting for a pointer from someone that could run this and he'll > > create a HTML with the procedures ... > > Here it is: > > http://www.tavi.co.uk/os2pages/pilot.html > > -- > Bob Eager > rde at tavi.co.uk > PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2, > 8580*6, > 8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT.. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: IBM Austin (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: mchasson@ibm.net 11-Nov-99 15:21:22 To: All 11-Nov-99 19:59:16 Subj: Re: Comm/2 keeps bringing down my system. From: mchasson@ibm.net In <382a9f52$1$vina$mr2ice@news.msu.ru>, on 11/11/99 at 01:45 PM, "Ivan Adzhubei" said: >In <991111085533.19114B-100000@bisv3.bedford.waii.com>, on 11/11/99 > at 09:41 AM, Steve Drewell said: >At which fixpak level your Warp 4 system is? I am having severe problems >with FP12 here, with Comm 4.61 being pretty unusable since applying FP12 >due to memory leak in pmmerge.dll (confirmed by people from IBM). >Unofficial pmr00052 fix improves the situation a bit, but I still having >occasional WPS hangs, mainly after attempting to exit Comm 4.61 and LSS >1.1. This system used to run in 24/7 mode very stably prior to FP12. >Cheers, >Ivan Just out of curiosity, is this still the ASUS p55t2p4 MB? And is it the Intel HX chip set that they (IBM) are having trouble with again? Regards from NYC. -- ---------------------------------------------------- ------ Monroe Chasson mchasson@ibm.net ----------------------------------------------------------- MR2ICE reg#51 --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: mkaply@NOSPAMus.ibm.com 11-Nov-99 13:41:24 To: All 11-Nov-99 19:59:16 Subj: Re: NS 4.61GA on WSeB and german Umlauts: Font Problem From: Michael Kaply I have no idea at all what you are referring to. The codepage it is running in is irrelevant. On an OS/2 Warp 4 850 system with FixPak 5 or greater applied, using the Times New Roman Mt 30 font, you can see: Japanese, Greek, Cyrillic, etc. etc. There is no need for codepage switching by the user. When we create the font in the app, we tell the OS what codepage we need. You don't have to do anything. Mike Kaply IBM hamei@pacbell.net wrote: >okay, now I am totally confused. In an Endless Quest to make dbcs work >in OS/2 I've discovered that IBM's answer to the international languages >problem is "codepage switching." From what I can discover, using a unicode >font in a locale-aware app opened *from the codepage it was generated >in* is the only way you can guarantee that what you'll see is what was >written. Obviously this isn't gonna work very well over the Internet, where >webpages are written locally using whatever codepage that language uses . . . >so how *does* a program such as Netscape correctly display pages in German, >in Rumanian, in Simplified Chinese when the app is opened from a codepage >437 or 850 environment ? --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: IBM (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: mkaply@NOSPAMus.ibm.com 11-Nov-99 13:44:17 To: All 11-Nov-99 19:59:16 Subj: Re: Attach PMMail to Netscape? From: Michael Kaply I have published the interface - it is at Steve Wendt's page. If the PMMAIL folks want to use it, they can integrate easily. Mike Kaply IBM --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: IBM (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: alan@min.net.notspam 11-Nov-99 21:50:00 To: All 11-Nov-99 19:59:16 Subj: Re: Comm/2 v4.61 easter egg From: alan@min.net.notspam In <382abe35$2$obot$mr2ice@news.pics.com>, on 11/11/99 at 07:59 AM, Bob Germer said: >> trim, solid, stable, secure, fast-working browsers? All in favor, raise >> your cotton candy cones over your empty heads and wave them. >Chill out! The little egg takes less than 4K bytes. If you want to It's hardly a big deal. The guys worked hard on Comm 4.61, and gave it to us gratis. If they want to stick a little easter egg in there in return, bully for them. The price is right. --------------------------------------------------------------------- *** Please remove .notspam from my address to reply via e-mail. *** Nerve Center BBS (Fidonet 1:261/1000) 410-655-4708 Posted by Alan Hess using registered MR/2 ICE Newsreader #564 --------------------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: @Home Network (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lamikr@cc.jyu.fi 11-Nov-99 22:23:05 To: All 11-Nov-99 19:59:16 Subj: Re: Comm/2 v4.61 easter egg From: lamikr > > Anyone remember the key combination to run this one? > > Ctrl-Alt-Shift-O after clicking on the WPS desktop. Nice! I really like easter eggs. I was also really suprised when I found runners in Netscape and I spend at least five minutes for watching the race again and again!!! Mika --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: University of Jyvaskyla, Finland (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: chris@scotgate2.demon.co.uk 11-Nov-99 08:52:16 To: All 11-Nov-99 19:59:16 Subj: Re: Comm/2 v4.61 easter egg From: chris@scotgate2.demon.co.uk (Chris H Lindley) On Wed, 10 Nov 1999 22:35:41 -0600, postmaster@[127.0.0.1] wrote: >In , on >11/10/99 > at 01:27 PM, donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) said: > >>Or am I out of step with the marketplace here? Y'all want everybody's >>systems everywhere loaded down with junk like this, instead of having >>trim, solid, stable, secure, fast-working browsers? All in favor, raise >>your cotton candy cones over your empty heads and wave them. > >Got a bee in your bandwidth, Buddy? That's gotta be one of the longest >letters I've read in a long time. Well it must be!! Changi (the news server getting all my usenet stuff fro me, filters out all articles above 500 lines!!) and I never saw this article!!!!! My god Buddy, I never saw such stuff since the BD/OD/BW wars!!! (grin) Cheers Chris -- ATGCTGCTAGTCGTAGCATGCTGCTTGATCGATGCGGTACGTGATGATCGTAGCTAGCTGGGCTAGTGG Ý Chris H. Lindley Yorkshire, UK ¦ Ý chris@scotgate2.demon.co.uk Ferg on #os/2 and #os2uk, EFnet ¦ Ý WarpUK:UK OS/2 Users group www.warp.in-uk.net ¦ Ý Molecular Biology & OS/2 www.scotgate.demon.co.uk ¦ TACGACGATCAGCATCGTACGACGAACTAGCTACGCCATGCACTACTAGCATCGATCGACCCGATCACC --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nospam_evr@spam.net 11-Nov-99 17:18:27 To: All 11-Nov-99 19:59:16 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: "/2 User" On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 09:36:57 -0500, letoured@nospam.net wrote: >David H. McCoy said: > >>Twice in a row I made your mom feel like a real woman. Having you did >>turn her off to sex, but I fixed that. > >>Would you like pictures of her and me together? She is one great piece of >>ass. > >Are you an out-patient? > >Its been a long time since I've had Abnormal Psychology, but your constant >obsession with your pee pee is a manifestation of a serious derangement >that needs treatment. > This is what McCoy resorts to after he can no longer answer my questions with out have to basically admit how bad M$ sucks in comparison to OS/2. He knows M$ could have given windoze HPFS, and saved the constant fragmentation slow down and other file problems and it bothers him. He knows there are 100's of First Aid kits for windoze because it sucks. He knows how virus prone windoze is, while I can log on 24/7 with no virus software. He last answer was I am ignorant because I stuck to the better OS. Bye Bye, McCoy ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "I tend to stay away from the Advocacy groups to avoid the WindTrolls" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: slinaza@bezeroak.euskaltel.es 12-Nov-99 00:15:08 To: All 11-Nov-99 19:59:16 Subj: HELP! Trouble with gs5.10 & emx From: SLM Hi, I am unable to print with ghostscript 5.10 and emx09d due to a sys3171 error, the system complaints of insufficient stack space for exception handlers (if anyone needs the register information drop an e-mail). emx.dll seems to be the one causing the error, it never happened with an older version. (emx08*) Any hints? Thanks in advance SLM --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Euskaltel (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: kenkahn@aol.com 11-Nov-99 23:08:00 To: All 11-Nov-99 19:59:16 Subj: Re: difference between OS/2 warp server and OS/2 warp 4.. From: kenkahn@aol.com (Kenkahn) > what is the difference between OS/2 Warp server and > OS/2 Warp 4? If you're talking about the products named "OS/2 Warp Server" or "OS/2 Warp Server Advanced", they're both based on WARP4; the 4 in their title refers to Lan Server V4. The new Warp Server for E-Business (Aurora) is based on WARP4+FP10, and also comes with LS. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: AOL http://www.aol.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: kenkahn@aol.com 11-Nov-99 23:04:26 To: All 11-Nov-99 21:27:03 Subj: Re: bootos2 From: kenkahn@aol.com (Kenkahn) >It gives me an error message "invalid >invocation parameter e:\" It would help if you showed the BOOTOS2 command you used, with any invocation arguments. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: AOL http://www.aol.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rde@tavi.co.uk 11-Nov-99 23:55:15 To: All 11-Nov-99 21:27:03 Subj: Re: Comm/2 v4.61 easter egg From: rde@tavi.co.uk (Bob Eager) On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 12:59:09, Bob Germer wrote: > complain, complain about aaaaa.exe which is installed every time you load > Warp. That little egg takes up about 99K. Only if you install 'optional bitmaps'.....I think. -- Bob Eager rde at tavi.co.uk PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2, 8580*6, 8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT.. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Tavi Systems (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: marky_marky@bellatlantic.net 11-Nov-99 22:42:17 To: All 11-Nov-99 21:27:03 Subj: Re: Backup & Defragmentation 3.5 From: marky_marky@bellatlantic.net (Marky) On 11 Nov 1999 11:57:31 GMT, jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong) wrote: > > Backup & Defragmentation 3.5 > snip! > I'm sure some will ask, "But John, what about PowerQuest's >Drive Image or Norton's Ghost?" Well, there really is no problem >with those programs. They do as advertised, they backup the hard >drive into an image. That image can be restored onto a single >machine (or if you have the Drive Image Pro) onto a network of >multiple machines. Unfortunately, the problem with disk imaging >programs like those is that they do absolutely nothing about the >fragmentation of the file system. Keep in mind, programs like >Drive Image and Ghost simply make a *mirror* image of the hard >drive's partitions. This means that not only does it copy the >data, but also the holes that whatever file system left behind >after days, months, years, etc. of disk thrashing. In a nut shell, >Drive Image and Ghost not only copy the hard drive data, but also >the fragmentation of the file system. This is where this little >primer really comes into play. Of course, the advantage with >something like Drive Image Pro is the ability to restore onto a >multitude of networked computers. Something that would be a pretty >big pain in the butt by this method. While I agree with you that Drive Image saves an image _with_ the fragmentation, Ghost does not work that way. From personal experience, (FAT only) I can tell you that Ghost does file by file copying to and from saved images. It is also saving additional info besides just the files so it can restore the paritioning and boot sector info (for the drive and each partition). The file by file copying means that on restores, all the files and the free space are defragmented. I haven't experienced directory fragmentation, but it may be possible with directories that require more than one cluster: I just don't know. Unfortunately, at least as of 5.1c, you are correct that you can't use Ghost for backup and restore. The 5.1c version, saving on a file by file basis, does not understand the additional info in the directory entry that links an OS/2 file to EA DATA. SF (at least on FAT partitions: I never tried it on HPFS). The result being, on a restore, the EA info is totally corrupted. This is supposedly fixed in 5.1d, which I have, but I haven't tried it on a partition with EAs yet. Or, you could use EABACKUP and EARESTOR, as you suggest for other tools that don't understand EAs. Marky --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: Peter.Weilbacher@T-Online.de 12-Nov-99 01:07:21 To: All 11-Nov-99 21:27:04 Subj: Re: Memory full?? From: Peter.Weilbacher@T-Online.de On Mon, 8 Nov 1999 09:01:35, Carsten Thorenz wrote: > I had a similar problem some time ago. My system has 128MB + plenty > of swap and told me something about "memory full" (though it wasn't). > > After some trying I've come to the impression that some kind of > other resources was used up. It came up shortly after using a > fixpack and after upgrading to FP12 the problem seems to have > vanished again. Thanks for the reply. I forgot in the first posting that I already have FP12 installed. Perhaps I try to re-apply it... Greetings, Peter. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Weilbachers (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rde@tavi.co.uk 11-Nov-99 23:59:28 To: All 11-Nov-99 21:27:04 Subj: Re: Pilot Desktop From: rde@tavi.co.uk (Bob Eager) On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 21:37:20, Cassio Roberto Pellegrim wrote: > Thanks Bob, it works, but it has some problems ... > I've tried to copy W32SCOMB.DLL from WIN32S 1.30 but after this I get a > message that WINDOWS doesn't have suficient memory to load the aplication > Do you have this same problems ?? I'm using PILOT DESKTOP for PALM > PROFESSIONAL (3120PRO.EXE) ... This doesn't sound like Palm Desktop 1.0. And that's all I've tried. Subsequent versions NEED Win32s 1.30, I'm told, and that won't work. -- Bob Eager rde at tavi.co.uk PC Server 325; PS/2s 8595*3, 9595*3 (2*P60 + P90), 8535, 8570, 9556*2, 8580*6, 8557*2, 8550, 9577, 8530, P70, PC/AT.. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Tavi Systems (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com 12-Nov-99 00:22:01 To: All 11-Nov-99 21:27:04 Subj: Re: difference between OS/2 warp server and OS/2 warp 4.. From: "Trevor Hemsley" On 11 Nov 1999 23:08:01 GMT, Kenkahn wrote: ->> what is the difference between OS/2 Warp server and ->> OS/2 Warp 4? -> ->If you're talking about the products named "OS/2 Warp Server" or ->"OS/2 Warp Server Advanced", they're both based on WARP4; the ->4 in their title refers to Lan Server V4. The new Warp Server for ->E-Business (Aurora) is based on WARP4+FP10, and also comes with LS. Hey Ken, the gremlins have been at your keyboard again and moved the 4 key over to the left one... OS/2 Warp Server is based on Warp *3* not 4 (but you know that). Trevor Hemsley, London, UK (Trevor-Hemsley@dial.pipex.com or 75704.2477@compuserve.com) --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: UUNET WorldCom server (post doesn't reflect views (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: hood@eng.sun.com 11-Nov-99 17:05:24 To: All 12-Nov-99 03:36:01 Subj: Quicken 98 to end Quicken Credit Card transaction downloads From: Mark Hood Intuit has informed me through the mail that in order to continue downloading credit card transactions from Quicken Credit Card issued by Travelers Bank I would have to upgrade to Quicken 2000 Deluxe by November 15. Quicken 98 is the last 16-bit version of Quicken, so it is the last version that will run in Win-OS2. I've communicated with the support people and it seems unlikely that a patch will be issued for Quicken 98 to allow it to continue transactions with their new server, but they didn't rule it out. If no patch will be available, it seems my options are to either get an account with a big bank like Wells Fargo that supports on-line banking directly with Quicken 98, or boot into a W32 OS for Quicken 2000. I'd hate to either stop using my credit union or have to boot a Windows OS. I'm hoping that if there are any others in my situation and they communicate their concerns to Intuit we may be able to get a patch from them, but if I'm alone with this problem I guess I'll have to deal with it somehow. Anybody else in this boat? -- Mark Hood --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: kenkahn@us.ibm.com 11-Nov-99 20:21:21 To: All 12-Nov-99 03:36:01 Subj: Re: difference between OS/2 warp server and OS/2 warp 4.. From: Kenneth Kahn Trevor Hemsley wrote: > Hey Ken, the gremlins have been at your keyboard again and moved the 4 key > over to the left one... OS/2 Warp Server is based on Warp *3* not 4 (but > you know that). *sigh* That's what I meant to write, thanks. Ken Kahn - IBM P/390 Software Development (and BOOTOS2 Author) Internet : kenkahn@us.ibm.com Lotus : Kenneth Kahn/Poughkeepsie/IBM@IBMUS VM : kenkahn@ibmusm10 --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: IBM Poughkeepsie (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: gzimmer@attglobal.net 12-Nov-99 01:34:10 To: All 12-Nov-99 03:36:01 Subj: Re: Comm/2 v4.61 easter egg From: gzimmer@attglobal.net donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) writes: >With all due respect, this is crap. > >All easter eggs are grotesque wastes of resources, neither helpful nor >harmless, just useless lines of code buried inside the original copy of >program source..... De-lurking, just to comment on your very entertaining post. Loved the Letterman show smirky stuff, and I will speak as a slack-jawed yokel in defense of 'easter eggs'. . It was great fun in the old DOS days, to whip out the hex editor and look in some of the game files. Origins Ultima series comes to mind, man, those guys hated EA! (Ironically, Electronics Arts did the most to promote their developers in those days.) However to the point, I see nothing wrong in developers putting comments, or credits into their work, it IS fun to find them for one thing. Also, especially now, when the days of individual developement are completely over, a team taking a few bytes to give themselves kudo's is not a bad thing, IMHO. It is highly doubtful they are going to get those kudo's from above, so why not do it themselves. They after all 'wrote it', did the 'grunt' work. Most people will never even know it's there. However as in the case of the OS/2 'easter egg', which is still there, it is fun to see the old 'Boca Raton' days, and all the people who worked so hard to develope a revolutionary interface, WPS, so consider it to ultimately be a sense of history. In the days of 20G hard drives, I don't think most people will resent those few measly bytes of credits, when a 20G hard-drive can fill up with crap within hours of installing it. . In the case of a 728K floppy, I may be tempted to delete AAAAA.MET. . ---Gail Gail Zimmerman gzimmer@ibm.net --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: steve53_remove_this@earthlink.net 11-Nov-99 18:24:05 To: All 12-Nov-99 03:36:01 Subj: Re: EmTec Network Suite FTP From: steve53_remove_this@earthlink.net In <80a3gc$3u7$2@news.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>, on 11/09/99 at 09:25 PM, mr_ace@gmx.de said: >Anyone tested this or found a solution?? Have you contacted Emtec support? They are usually very responsive. Steven -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Steven Levine MR2/ICE #10183 Warp4/FP11 --------------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: EarthLink Network, Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: postmaster@ecoworld.co.uk 11-Nov-99 18:13:15 To: All 12-Nov-99 03:36:01 Subj: Re: Netscape 4.04 Wanted From: postmaster "Jeffrey S. Kobal" wrote: > postmaster wrote: > > > I was stupid enough to upgrade to Netscape 4.61 having waited thinking > > it would be bug free - which sadly is not the case. > > "Bug free"? That's a tall order for any major piece of software. > > What sort of troubles are you having with it? > > Jeffrey S. Kobal > IBM Corporation Troubles? Oh only a few ......................... (1) Rename Mail Folders Netscape crashes out (2) Delete Mail Folders Netscape crashes out (3) Copy Mail Folder ................... (4) Move ..................... (5) Unable to delete Newsgroup msgs ............. (6) Flagging Newsgroups to delete fails (7) Purge Newsgroups fails (8) Purge will also cause Netscape to crash (9) Does not download Newgroups unless I use synchronise (10 Totally ignores any settings and likely to crash at any time. (11) A product that builds one's confidence (sic) (12) All files have to be xxxxxxxx.xxx because Netscape is MSDOS. Odd that the WIN95/98 product supports WIN98 long file names but we just get the MSDOS supported file structure .................. This is only a little catalogue there are many end users who experience keyboard lock ups and so on. The list goes on. It can not be claimed that Netscape is a major product - it's poorly written and unstable. Better to start from scratch and not write an MSDOS application and then tweak it to become a third rate product. No I don't expect a 100 per cent perfect product. In fact the only thing that can be said for this MSDOS crossover (perhaps another app dependent on Open Doc) from WIN95/98 is it can pick up mail I can write mail, and can browse the web - beyond that the software sucks - but sadly has no real flavour. All these errors are due in part to (for me) with doscall1.dll something that I would have expected to have been picked up in beta testing. I'm running Warp-4 100% HPFS fixpak 9 uk. There are other issues - even with no programmes running with 48Mb RAM Netscape creates a 32MB swap file - my default size 8192Mb. As for multitasking forget it MSDOS is a single tasking operating system and Netscape is just that. Netscape OS/2 behaves like leaded jelly and has no crispness. I have boot manager so I can compare performance on the same machine. When I compare it with the MSDOS version for WIN98 Netscape runs faster, crisper and does not crash out. Which begs the question: Why do we always get third rate products ported from MSDOS? I ask myself why is it that a 16bit application with a few 32bit dlls running on a 8/16bit operating system with a few more 32bit dlls in a nice GUI (WIN95/98) will always out perform the third rate we end up with? So for my own personal use at home if you have a copy of comm404.exe a more stable and less "jelly" like product let me know! Oh btw I've stuck by OS/2 for the past five years and will continue to use it at home, commercially we are giving it up. Have a happy and profitable day! Regards, David ________________________________________________________________ David Cooper - Chairman Green-Base Exchange Ltd - Green-Base Shopping Ltd. Waste Recovery + Cleaner Production Technologies = Environmentally Friendly Products = Profits. That's Our Business - Make It Yours! --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Green-Base Exchange Ltd (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: forgitaboutit@fake.com 11-Nov-99 21:30:03 To: All 12-Nov-99 03:36:01 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: David H. McCoy In article <382ad48a$3$yrgbherq$mr2ice@news.sover.net>, letoured@nospam.net says... >David H. McCoy said: > >>Twice in a row I made your mom feel like a real woman. Having you did >>turn her off to sex, but I fixed that. > >>Would you like pictures of her and me together? She is one great piece of >>ass. > >Are you an out-patient? > >Its been a long time since I've had Abnormal Psychology, but your constant >obsession with your pee pee is a manifestation of a serious derangement >that needs treatment. I'll pass this on to your mom. She does fit your description. But heck, she certainly knows how to have a good time. Did you know that she is able to place here feet on her own shoulders? Incredible!! Tonight, I think that I'll drag her around by her hair before sticking it to her! >_____________ >Ed Letourneau > > -- --------------------------------------- David H. McCoy dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com --------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: OminorTech (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: peej@xta.com 11-Nov-99 22:27:18 To: All 12-Nov-99 03:36:02 Subj: OS/2 drivers for Voodoo3 2000 video card From: "Jim Lee Jr." Folks, Do any of you know of Voodoo3 2000 drivers for OS/2 Warp 3? I am expecting to recieve Warp 3 to try out and am wondering if there are miscellaneous non-Windows95/98 drivers. Any info is appreciated. Thanks much. Jim --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: steve53_remove_this@earthlink.net 11-Nov-99 18:02:02 To: All 12-Nov-99 03:36:02 Subj: Re: Linkwiz From: steve53_remove_this@earthlink.net In <38288c28$1$qnir$mr2ice@read.news.global.net.uk>, on 11/09/99 at 08:54 PM, dave@david-lister.co.uk said: >Perhaps I was unlucky! I had (and still have) problems whereby files in >certain sub-directories would get missed when synchronising & I had >(have) to re-run the operation, some times 3 or 4 times, to make sure >every updated file is transferred. I think I was trying to sort this out I could see where this would be a problem. :( It's not one I've seen with 3.04. >when they had staff problems since I would explain my problems to one guy >to discover he had moved on - so I went through it again and the same I use it primarily to download executables to a DOS based control system. For that, the cross platform abilities are a great time saver. >Perhaps I'm better off with the version I've got!! :) I had come to the >conclusion that they are not around anymore too. There'e only a couple of oddities. v3.04 requires a TZ variable or it thinks the machine is one the East Coast. This is odd since PCX was based in southern California. There are problems with "Copy if Exists". It shuts down early at times, so it can not be depended one. I've also seen it tie up the OS/2 box it it's got a bad cable connection. All of these have easy workarounds. >Well, what made me concerned was that I changed the date of a file I >intended to transfer to my notebook to 5 November 2000 and it displayed >in Linkwiz as 05-11-100. However, it did put it to the top (or bottom) This could just be a display problem. You need to test if the file dates transfer unchanged. Steven -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Steven Levine MR2/ICE #10183 Warp4/FP11 --------------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: EarthLink Network, Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: tvoltagg@home.com 12-Nov-99 03:11:24 To: All 12-Nov-99 03:36:02 Subj: Re: Quicken 98 to end Quicken Credit Card transaction downloads From: tvoltagg@home.com I'm also in the same boat. I was running Quicken 6 and got the message from Mellon Bank here in Philadelphia. Mellon said, however, that it was only discontinuing the use of Quicken 5 and 6. They said that Quicken 98 was acceptable, as long as the Y2K patch was used. I checked with the Intuit website and they had patches for Quicken 98. I'm in the process of looking for a copy of Quicken 98 to use. Does anyone know of where to get a cheap copy? In , Mark Hood writes: >Intuit has informed me through the mail that in order to continue >downloading credit card transactions from Quicken Credit Card issued by >Travelers Bank I would have to upgrade to Quicken 2000 Deluxe by November >15. Quicken 98 is the last 16-bit version of Quicken, so it is the last >version that will run in Win-OS2. > >I've communicated with the support people and it seems unlikely that a patch >will be issued for Quicken 98 to allow it to continue transactions with >their new server, but they didn't rule it out. If no patch will be >available, it seems my options are to either get an account with a big bank >like Wells Fargo that supports on-line banking directly with Quicken 98, or >boot into a W32 OS for Quicken 2000. > >I'd hate to either stop using my credit union or have to boot a Windows OS. >I'm hoping that if there are any others in my situation and they communicate >their concerns to Intuit we may be able to get a patch from them, but if I'm >alone with this problem I guess I'll have to deal with it somehow. > >Anybody else in this boat? > >-- Mark Hood --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Team OS/2 (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: alan@min.net.notspam 12-Nov-99 03:12:05 To: All 12-Nov-99 03:36:02 Subj: Re: Quicken 98 to end Quicken Credit Card transaction downloads From: alan@min.net.notspam In , on 11/11/99 at 05:05 PM, Mark Hood said: >Intuit has informed me through the mail that in order to continue >downloading credit card transactions from Quicken Credit Card issued by I haven't tried to handle credit card stuff via quicken, since I haven't even been able to download stock prices. The latest error message is "cannot find winsock.dll." I also just picked up the setup.bat and revision 2 patch.exe for Quicken 98. Is that for Quicken 98 Deluxe, and, if so, do you know how to install it and if it's the latest revision? --------------------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: @Home Network (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: thoman@verinet.com 12-Nov-99 05:00:06 To: All 12-Nov-99 03:36:02 Subj: Re: Partition Magic 5.0 upgrade From: thoman@verinet.com In <8NO1LLldNq1r-pn2-8ZFLuc9nCzdd@localhost>, janswa@algonet.se (Jan Swartling) writes: > >And I wouldn't call version 4 (or version 5) OS/2 incompatible. I find it >quite easy to run the included OS/2 version from diskette. You can choose >between a graphics and a text version. ?????? Last time I needed a copy of Partition Magic was during the transition from 3 to 4. I thought I'd buy 4 until I read the box and found no mention of being able to actually _run_ it on OS/2. I then hurriedly sought out version 3 while there were still some left. I find it surprising that there would be an OS/2 version in the box and not mentioned on the box. If there really is an OS/2 version in there, what version is it? Is it really version 4 or 5, or is it version 3 for OS/2 and the appropriate later version for other operating systems? ----- Greg Thoman: The opinions expressed herein are mine alone, and I am solely irresponsible for them. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Just Little Ol' Me (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com 12-Nov-99 05:46:04 To: All 12-Nov-99 03:36:02 Subj: Re: Comm/2 v4.61 easter egg From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:52:32, chris@scotgate2.demon.co.uk (Chris H Lindley) a Úcrit dans un message: snip > > Changi (the news server getting all my usenet stuff fro me, filters > out all articles above 500 lines!!) and I never saw this > article!!!!! All taken as a tactful way to tell me not to rattle on so, in future. Another suggested finally plugging this kinda stuff into a website, which is even more tactful a way to tell me just to stay home. Since both were tactful, I'll accept them gracefully, and maybe even not ignore them. -- Good luck, Buddy Buddy Donnelly donnelly@tampabay.rr.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: RoadRunner - TampaBay (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com 12-Nov-99 05:46:05 To: All 12-Nov-99 03:36:02 Subj: Re: Comm/2 v4.61 easter egg From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 01:34:20, gzimmer@attglobal.net a Úcrit dans un message: > donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) writes: > > >All easter eggs are grotesque wastes of resources, neither helpful nor > >harmless, just useless lines of code buried inside the original copy of > >program source..... snip > > However to the point, I see nothing wrong in developers putting comments, > or credits into their work, it IS fun to find them for one thing. Also, > especially now, when the days of individual developement are completely over, > a team taking a few bytes to give themselves kudo's is not a bad thing, IMHO. Yeah, well, ya throw my actual words right back in my face like that and even I have to agree they were overblown when I sent them. When I finally figured out what I hated about easter eggs, I saw it was merely the ones hidden inside executables, not "All" as I started out. -- Good luck, Buddy Buddy Donnelly donnelly@tampabay.rr.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: RoadRunner - TampaBay (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: as@sci.fi 11-Nov-99 18:28:19 To: All 12-Nov-99 03:36:02 Subj: Re: cannot find winsock.dll - Quicken 98 From: Anssi Saari alan@min.net.notspam writes: > I've gotten a bit further in trying to connect to the internet with my > Quicken 98 Deluxe for Windows 3.1 under OS/2 Warp 4 with a cable modem. I > now get the error message "cannot find winsock.dll." Winsock.dll is in > f:\tcpip\dos\etc, which is listed as "set etc=" in autoexec.bat. Quicken > is set for direct internet connection. Winsock.dll needs to be in your (DOS) path, not %etc%. -- Anssi Saari - as@sci.fi --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Tampere University of Technology (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: dave@david-lister.co.uk 12-Nov-99 06:32:09 To: All 12-Nov-99 03:36:02 Subj: Re: Linkwiz From: dave@david-lister.co.uk In <382b76d1$1$fgrir53$mr2ice@news.earthlink.net>, on 11/11/99 at 06:02 PM, steve53_remove_this@earthlink.net said: >This could just be a display problem. You need to test if the file dates >transfer unchanged. Steven, Yes, I've tried to transfer the modified files and the report the date quick corrctly on the other computer so, as you suggest, it appears to be a display problem. Since PCX appears to have vanished have you any idea where it might still be possible to get the latest version?? Dave Lister ------------------------------------------------------------- dave@david-lister.co.uk David Lister Accountancy Services http://www.david-lister.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: GXSN (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com 12-Nov-99 07:00:15 To: All 12-Nov-99 03:36:02 Subj: Re: Comm/2 v4.61 easter egg From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" Buddy Donnelly wrote: > No, for your information, the "end papers" and "title matter" are > traditional and quite important elements of producing printed book > signatures for binding, and you might be surprised how much design thought > and debate goes into those things. Well, then, let's just say that it's "traditional" for software engineers to put their name into what they write, to credit those who put their time and effort -- and often heart -- into the project. We also use our authors page to list the people that had a hand in the project (perhaps not with the development directly... but with some part of the life of the product) as a way of thanking them for contributing and giving them some credit as well. Credit... recognition... pride... motivation. Sometimes a little pat on the back can go a long way towards improving how a person produces. Jeffrey S. Kobal IBM Corporation --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com 12-Nov-99 07:10:19 To: All 12-Nov-99 03:36:02 Subj: Re: Comm/2 v4.61 easter egg From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" Buddy Donnelly wrote: > ??? You can't point at an external URL at all? Help | Release Notes seems > to get quickly to a suitable external spot, near the Trademarks? That's right.... but that's on an appropriated web server that has funding to be maintained as a service and support site, on which space has been allocated for the product help and information. It all has to be approved and paid for, which means having a business reason to put it there. > No, thankyew, we'll leave the custom machine ID targeting to MicroSoft and > Real Networks. Oh, come on... I could just have it detect your name in your user profile and pop up a little reminder when my birthday comes around. > Jeez, now I have to admit I haven't even looked at it.... WHAT? You've been moaning so much over something you haven't even seen? You're not doing very much for your credibility 'round here, you know that? > Hell, I *like* to see coders crowing about how good the work they've done > is. We should have more of it. As long as it doesn't take up any extra space, right? Remember, even though you deleted AAAAA.EXE and AAAAA.MET from your machine, the code that detects the keystroke and tries to launch that application is still in there, taking up precious RAM constantly. NOW how're you going to sleep at night? Jeffrey S. Kobal IBM Corporation --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: LarryFutrell.nospam@attglobal.net 12-Nov-99 00:16:13 To: All 12-Nov-99 03:36:03 Subj: Re: Quicken 98 to end Quicken Credit Card transaction downloads From: LarryFutrell.nospam@attglobal.net (Larry Futrell) In article , tvoltagg@home.com says... > I'm in the process > of looking for a copy of Quicken 98 to use. Does anyone know of where to get > a cheap copy? > How about a free copy? If you own an earlier version of Quicken you can download Quicken 98 for free, or get a CD or floppys for a shipping and handling charge. Go to http://www.intuit.com/corporate/year2000/quicken/qwin.html Larry Futrell --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com 12-Nov-99 07:22:24 To: All 12-Nov-99 05:21:02 Subj: Re: Netscape 4.04 Wanted From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" postmaster wrote: > Troubles? Oh only a few ......................... Oh, sorry.... thought you might have wanted some assistance or suggestions. Go about your tirade, don't let me interrupt you. One thing, though. Communicator has nothing to do with MS-DOS... so I have NO idea what you're blathering about. We have to use 8.3 filenames because we have to run on FAT, which uses 8.3 filenames, and won't nicely munge the longname into a unique 8.3 name (like Windows does), and instead just fails to create the file. And what's that about a 16-bit application? Where are you getting this false information from? Oh, one more thing.... those DOSCALL1 traps with manipulating folders and such -- that's a known problem that has already been resolved and will be available when a fixpack is released. Ok, I'm really done this time. Blather on. Jeffrey S. Kobal IBM Corporation --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com 12-Nov-99 02:29:21 To: All 12-Nov-99 05:21:02 Subj: Re: Comm/2 v4.61 easter egg From: Bob Germer On , on 11/11/99 at 03:50 PM, donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) said: > Yes, well, either you're a believer in Low Impact Living or you're not. > Resources are *not* infinite, none of them are, and the sooner we all > begin acting like they're precious, the better our chances of not > souring this beautiful planet into a stagnant algae pond. If everyone acted like you want them to, we would all still be using chalk and slate to communicate. Get a life! -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------- Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: bobg@Pics.com Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 12 MR/2 Ice Registration Number 67 Aut Pax Aut Bellum ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nitebird@voicenet.com 12-Nov-99 02:56:28 To: All 12-Nov-99 05:21:02 Subj: Re: The Describe 5 Diaries... From: nitebird@voicenet.com (Barry Mann) In <382aec27$4$yrgbherq$mr2ice@news.sover.net>, on 11/11/99 at 11:17 AM, letoured@nospam.net said: >:>> >of text, also using criteria like "mark everything that is bold" or >:>> >"everything that is italic and 12pt", and then apply the one or other >:>> >function on that block: I don't know any other text processor with >:>this >:>> >powerful capability! >:>> >:>> FrameMaker can. It also handles color. Of course it costs more. >:>....and doesn't probably come on 2 or 3 _diskettes_ (not CDs !!), >:>including dictionaries for several languages... >:So. >:>....and doesn't run on OS/2, AFAIK... >:You can still find ver. 5 around at close-outs. I think I saw it on >:Ebay used. It runs just find under WinOs2. The CD contains native OS/2 and Win95 versions. >:>....and finally plays in another ligue: "DTP" vs. "text processors"... >:The marketing types branded it "DTP," but it is actually a >:document-processor, or maybe professional word processor is a better >:description. ----------------------------------------------------------- nitebird@voicenet.com (Barry Mann) ----------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com 12-Nov-99 08:00:26 To: All 12-Nov-99 05:21:02 Subj: Re: Comm/2 v4.61 easter egg From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 07:00:30, "Jeffrey S. Kobal" a Úcrit dans un message: > Buddy Donnelly wrote: > > > No, for your information, the "end papers" and "title matter" are > > traditional and quite important elements of producing printed book > > signatures for binding, and you might be surprised how much design thought > > and debate goes into those things. > > Well, then, let's just say that it's "traditional" for software > engineers to put their name into what they write, to credit > those who put their time and effort -- and often heart -- > into the project. We also use our authors page to list the > people that had a hand in the project (perhaps not with > the development directly... but with some part of the life > of the product) as a way of thanking them for contributing > and giving them some credit as well. > > Credit... recognition... pride... motivation. Sometimes a > little pat on the back can go a long way towards improving > how a person produces. You wore me down. Take your bows. -- Good luck, Buddy Buddy Donnelly donnelly@tampabay.rr.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: RoadRunner - TampaBay (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: thomas.kellerer@tps-labs.com 12-Nov-99 09:18:22 To: All 12-Nov-99 05:21:02 Subj: Re: HELP! Trouble with gs5.10 & emx From: "Thomas Kellerer" I dont't know if this would help, but I think there is a tool for EMX which increases the stack space of the application. Look into the emx\bin folder, it should be somewhere. Cheers Thomas SLM wrote in message <382B4E04.7A52@bezeroak.euskaltel.es>... >I am unable to print with ghostscript 5.10 and emx09d due to a sys3171 >error, the system complaints of insufficient stack space for exception >handlers (if anyone needs the register information drop an e-mail). >emx.dll seems to be the one causing the error, it never happened with an >older version. (emx08*) --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: cbzh@my-deja.com 12-Nov-99 08:07:04 To: All 12-Nov-99 05:21:02 Subj: Re: The Describe 5 Diaries... From: cbzh@my-deja.com In article <382aec27$4$yrgbherq$mr2ice@news.sover.net>, letoured@nospam.net wrote: > >> >of text, also using criteria like "mark everything that is bold" or > >> >"everything that is italic and 12pt", and then apply the one or other > >> >function on that block: I don't know any other text processor with > >this > >> >powerful capability! > >> > >> FrameMaker can. It also handles color. Of course it costs more. > > >....and doesn't probably come on 2 or 3 _diskettes_ (not CDs !!), > >including dictionaries for several languages... > > So. > > >....and doesn't run on OS/2, AFAIK... > > You can still find ver. 5 around at close-outs. I think I saw it on Ebay > used. It runs just find under WinOs2. > > >....and finally plays in another ligue: "DTP" vs. "text processors"... > > The marketing types branded it "DTP," but it is actually a > document-processor, or maybe professional word processor is a better > description. Hmm, yes, you are right: They also claim their handling of tables - which is REALLY rather good for a "document processor" - is something like an "included spreadsheed functionality", but in this category it would be rather weak... OTOH, The last time I had to use a "DTP" program (Ventura Publisher) it was only in order to place texts on pages for a book, together with some horizontal and vertical lines, some text boxes and finally a couple of pictures, all rectangular - and this was ONLY because of the fact that MS Word cannot do these things in a way that is independent of the printer, so you cannot make a draft printout on a deskjet printer and then handle exactly the same document in PS format for the real publication... And this wouldn't have been necessary had I been allowed to use Papyrus (-- or of course Describe as well, which is what this thread is finally about!) Cornelis Bockemühl > _____________ > Ed Letourneau > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: cbzh@my-deja.com 12-Nov-99 08:16:13 To: All 12-Nov-99 05:21:02 Subj: Re: The Describe 5 Diaries... From: cbzh@my-deja.com In article , l_luciano@da.mob (Stan Goodman) wrote: > On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 08:12:44, cbzh@my-deja.com wrote: > > > In article <80d6nu$njr$1@coranto.ucs.mun.ca>, > > jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong) wrote: > ---------------snip---------------- > > > Interesting: You seem to have gone a similar way than I have, starting > > with WordPerfect/DOS to Describe/OS2, both being discontinued by their > > makers. Mine went on to "Papyrus" (OS/2) which comes from the Atari > > world AFAIK and which is still being further developed (It only seems > > that their plans and announcements go sometimes much further than their > > capabilities to realize things, but this looks familiar to everybody > > ever having programmed the one or other project :-)) See > > http://www.rom-logicware.com/start.htm where they are talking about the > > english language version of the program "coming out every moment"...: I > > hope for you it will really do! > > FWIW, they were talking about "an English version any moment" two years > ago. The more things change, the more they are the same. Yes, you are right: Right now you read on the home page that the english version will come out "in October" - which must be 1999 in the context :-) OTOH, according to my correspondence with Ulli Ramps of RL they are now actually busy with the translation - contrary to 2 years ago where they were just announcing it. At the same time they are also working on their database (that is optionally integrated into Papyrus) which was promised one year ago and is out now since September, but still needs some "ripening"; they are not sleeping though. Of course the only good answer to your frustrated reaction would be the real publication of the english version - and this I can only hope for, not promise or announce anything for sure, of course! Cornelis Bockemühl > ---------------snip---------------- > > ------------- > Stan Goodman > Qiryat Tiv'on > Israel > > Spammers are getting smarter; email sent to l_luciano@da.mob will not reach > me. Sorry. > Send E-mail to: domain: hashkedim dot com, username: stan. > >  > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com 12-Nov-99 08:00:06 To: All 12-Nov-99 05:21:02 Subj: Re: Comm/2 v4.61 easter egg From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 07:10:39, "Jeffrey S. Kobal" a Úcrit dans un message: > > Oh, come on... I could just have it detect your name in your > user profile and pop up a little reminder when my birthday > comes around. I'm sure you could. Let's hear it for 100% Open Source on all software. > > > Jeez, now I have to admit I haven't even looked at it.... > > WHAT? You've been moaning so much over something you > haven't even seen? You're not doing very much for your > credibility 'round here, you know that? I thought I'd lost all credibility long ago. But I don't have to actually be inside a car crash to know it would be unpleasant. > > > Hell, I *like* to see coders crowing about how good the work they've done > > is. We should have more of it. > > As long as it doesn't take up any extra space, right? Not in RAM, not in executables. We're slowly making my particular point. > > Remember, even though you deleted AAAAA.EXE and > AAAAA.MET from your machine, the code that detects the > keystroke and tries to launch that application is still in > there, taking up precious RAM constantly. NOW how're > you going to sleep at night? I'd already contemplated that. You're right, it makes my skin itch. -- Good luck, Buddy Buddy Donnelly donnelly@tampabay.rr.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: RoadRunner - TampaBay (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: an479@lafn.org 11-Nov-99 22:09:05 To: All 12-Nov-99 05:21:02 Subj: Re: Comm/2 keeps bringing down my system. From: J. N. Pfisterer Hi, Ivan - Noted your exchange with Steve Drewell and tried to free-load on it; but repeated attempts to connect to your ftp resource were unsuccessful. I suspect that a few others may have been trying too and beat me to it. >PMR00052.ZIP was posted on testcase.boulder.ibm.com a couple of weeks >ago. You can grab a copy from my ftp: >ftp://protein.bio.msu.su/pub/os2/fixes/pmr00052.zip Do you recall exactly where in the testcase.boulder.ibm.com site you found it. I tried there too; but found it a typical, murky IBM site and didn't manage to spot pmr00052.zip. > >It also contains a replacement keyboard.dcp. Just reboot in command line >or using boot floppies, rename FP12 versions of the corresponding files >on your system (\OS2\KEYBOARD.DCP and \OS2\DLL\PMMERGE.DLL) and copy >over fixed versions, then reboot again. Thanks for the explanation! > >It does not fix all of my problems with FP12, but at least I can use my >system for more than one day now :). Haven't had that problem, since I shut my system down at night; but there's something really eating memory now! I have 64megs RAM installed and kept swapper set to 2 megs with no visible swap activity. Usually had around 25megs of physical memory available at any time. Now, the physical memory is evaporating and the swap file is shooting up to 20megs or more! :( > >There's another unofficial post-FP12 fix available, with a new version >of kernel, but I did not tried it yet. Is it in the same place on the IBM ftp site? What is it supposed to fix? >P.S. Sorry for poor access to my server, our Internet connectivity >really sucks at the moment :-(. May just be a lot of people trying to get to it at once. Thanks for offering the ftp and supplying all this good info. Jack P. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: The Los Angeles Free-Net (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bobg.REMOVEME.@pics.com 12-Nov-99 03:05:29 To: All 12-Nov-99 05:21:02 Subj: Re: Comm/2 v4.61 easter egg From: Bob Germer On <382BBA4B.B17A8FD7@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com>, on 11/12/99 at 07:00 AM, "Jeffrey S. Kobal" said: > Well, then, let's just say that it's "traditional" for software > engineers to put their name into what they write, to credit those who > put their time and effort -- and often heart -- > into the project. We also use our authors page to list the people that > had a hand in the project (perhaps not with > the development directly... but with some part of the life > of the product) as a way of thanking them for contributing > and giving them some credit as well. > Credit... recognition... pride... motivation. Sometimes a > little pat on the back can go a long way towards improving > how a person produces. Right you are. In my 60 years on this planet I have found that a compliment is better motivation than anything other than a cash bonus. I'll bet the curmudgeon who started this bleat would be horrified to find that entering the right AT command on USR modems would list the developers of the modem and the parts they worked on. For example on my Courier Double Standard ATUSR returned the data. Terrible waste of hardware don't you think? > Jeffrey S. Kobal > IBM Corporation -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------- Bob Germer from Mount Holly, NJ - E-mail: bobg@Pics.com Proudly running OS/2 Warp 4.0 w/ FixPack 12 MR/2 Ice Registration Number 67 Aut Pax Aut Bellum ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: dink@dontspamme.com 12-Nov-99 04:15:06 To: All 12-Nov-99 10:28:26 Subj: IBM WAKE UP From: "dinkmeister" Development for Smack!, Staroffice and MainActor has been screwed a bit because of the buggy VAC++ 4.0 compiler! sheesh! Is this your way of finally killing off all the OS/2 users/developers? I wanna know.. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: psychadelia (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: News@The-Net-4U.com 12-Nov-99 10:44:08 To: All 12-Nov-99 10:28:26 Subj: Re: Linkwiz From: News@The-Net-4U.com (M.P. van Dobben de Bruijn) > dave@david-lister.co.uk wrote: > > Perhaps I was unlucky! I had (and still have) problems whereby files in > certain sub-directories would get missed when synchronising & I had (have) > to re-run the operation, some times 3 or 4 times, to make sure every > updated file is transferred. I think I was trying to sort this out when > they had staff problems since I would explain my problems to one guy to > discover he had moved on - so I went through it again and the same thing > happened!! I gave up in the end and now live with it. PCX's website seems to be defunct with a standard page that was installed by the (new?) ISP I think. Did you try to reach them by phone etc? Recently I saw that Indelible Blue still has them in the catalogue, but I doubt if shelling out 125 USD for a new full version (I suppose that upgrades may be a problem over IB) would be what you like now. Nevertheless, thought I should mention it. Missing files in certain sub-directories you mention as a problem. I very recently learned that there is a problem with FP11 where the OS some- times sets the Archive-flag of sub-directories. My Embellish would then not be able to see those directories when the File-Open dialogue was used. Blan- king that Archive-flag would make it function properly again, setting it made it re- appear. Just makes me wonder which other programs might have this problem with FP11. Even makes me nervous, I never saw this all the time I used FP11 untill I last week needed a directory in Embellish. What if ZIP and BackUp Apps etc. go through the same problem. That might make some of my backups of later deleted projects a little bit worthless I think. Ah well, if they are gone they are gone now anyway, so I do not intend to spend time to find out now. Perhaps I will never need to get those projects back again. Regards from Leeuwarden Peter van Dobben de Bruijn --- usethenet.at.the-net-4u.com (.at. becomes @) ---- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: Roland.Pinches@pmail.net 12-Nov-99 10:10:25 To: All 12-Nov-99 10:28:26 Subj: Re: Netscape 4.04 Wanted From: "Roland Pinches" I'm seeing similar problems with Netscape, although not quite to the same extent! Certainly I've had lots of problems with creating and moving mail folders and also reading newsgroup articles, but I can't say I've had any problems with multitasking. This led me to go and buy PMMail2.1 and PMINews. No problems with mail and newsgroups now :-) However, Netscape always seems to crap out when downloading large files ie: Java 1.1.8. It just stops. No errors, no messages, just stops as if it has finished downloading the whole file but has typically only downloaded about 1Mb. Command line FTP still works ok, but I can't find the java download area on service.boulder.ibm.com.... Netscape also gives me problems with with Java, hence my desire to get 118. Recently there was an announcement from Snowstorm Software about a new module for their screen saver. When I try to access their web site, it starts a java app which kills my machine. My only option is to hit the reset button on the front of my PC as even CTRL-ALT-DEL doesn't work. I got around it eventually by switching off Java within Netscape, but I wouldn't say that is an ideal solution! Thanks for listening to our gripes! Any thoughts?? Roly. > >Troubles? Oh only a few ......................... > >(1) Rename Mail Folders Netscape crashes out >(2) Delete Mail Folders Netscape crashes out >(3) Copy Mail Folder ................... >(4) Move ..................... >(5) Unable to delete Newsgroup msgs ............. >(6) Flagging Newsgroups to delete fails >(7) Purge Newsgroups fails >(8) Purge will also cause Netscape to crash >(9) Does not download Newgroups unless I use synchronise >(10 Totally ignores any settings and likely to crash at any time. >(11) A product that builds one's confidence (sic) >(12) All files have to be xxxxxxxx.xxx because Netscape is MSDOS. Odd that >the WIN95/98 product supports WIN98 long file names but we just get the >MSDOS supported file structure .................. > >This is only a little catalogue there are many end users who experience >keyboard lock ups and so on. The list goes on. It can not be claimed that >Netscape is a major product - it's poorly written and unstable. Better to >start from scratch and not write an MSDOS application and then tweak it to >become a third rate product. No I don't expect a 100 per cent perfect >product. In fact the only thing that can be said for this MSDOS crossover >(perhaps another app dependent on Open Doc) from WIN95/98 is it can pick up >mail I can write mail, and can browse the web - beyond that the software >sucks - but sadly has no real flavour. > >All these errors are due in part to (for me) with doscall1.dll something >that I would have expected to have been picked up in beta testing. I'm >running Warp-4 100% HPFS fixpak 9 uk. There are other issues - even with no >programmes running with 48Mb RAM Netscape creates a 32MB swap file - my >default size 8192Mb. As for multitasking forget it MSDOS is a single tasking >operating system and Netscape is just that. > >Netscape OS/2 behaves like leaded jelly and has no crispness. I have boot >manager so I can compare performance on the same machine. When I compare it >with the MSDOS version for WIN98 Netscape runs faster, crisper and does not >crash out. Which begs the question: Why do we always get third rate products >ported from MSDOS? I ask myself why is it that a 16bit application with a >few 32bit dlls running on a 8/16bit operating system with a few more 32bit >dlls in a nice GUI (WIN95/98) will always out perform the third rate we end >up with? > >So for my own personal use at home if you have a copy of comm404.exe a more >stable and less "jelly" like product let me know! Oh btw I've stuck by OS/2 >for the past five years and will continue to use it at home, commercially we >are giving it up. > >Have a happy and profitable day! > >Regards, > >David >________________________________________________________________ >David Cooper - Chairman Green-Base Exchange Ltd - Green-Base Shopping Ltd. >Waste Recovery + Cleaner Production Technologies = Environmentally Friendly >Products = Profits. That's Our Business - Make It Yours! > > > > --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: davek@clark.net 12-Nov-99 10:35:03 To: All 12-Nov-99 10:28:26 Subj: Re: Partition Magic 5.0 upgrade From: davek@clark.net (David Kunz) thoman@verinet.com wrote: : In <8NO1LLldNq1r-pn2-8ZFLuc9nCzdd@localhost>, janswa@algonet.se :(Jan Swartling) writes: : >And I wouldn't call version 4 (or version 5) OS/2 incompatible. I : >find it quite easy to run the included OS/2 version from diskette. : >You can choose between a graphics and a text version. : ?????? : Last time I needed a copy of Partition Magic was during the : transition from 3 to 4. I thought I'd buy 4 until I read the box : and found no mention of being able to actually _run_ it on OS/2. I : then hurriedly sought out version 3 while there were still some : left. : I find it surprising that there would be an OS/2 version in : the box and not mentioned on the box. If there really is an OS/2 : version in there, what version is it? Is it really version 4 or 5, : or is it version 3 for OS/2 and the appropriate later version for : other operating systems? I have version 4 and can't find an OS/2 executable. I run the DOS version from it's bootable disk. -- David Kunz Operator error. Replace operator and strike any key to continue... --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Verio (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: janswa@algonet.se 12-Nov-99 10:53:01 To: All 12-Nov-99 10:28:26 Subj: Re: Partition Magic 5.0 upgrade From: janswa@algonet.se (Jan Swartling) On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 05:00:13, thoman@verinet.com wrote: > In <8NO1LLldNq1r-pn2-8ZFLuc9nCzdd@localhost>, janswa@algonet.se (Jan Swartling) writes: > > > >And I wouldn't call version 4 (or version 5) OS/2 incompatible. I find it > >quite easy to run the included OS/2 version from diskette. You can choose > >between a graphics and a text version. > > Last time I needed a copy of Partition Magic was during the > transition from 3 to 4. I thought I'd buy 4 until I read the box and > found no mention of being able to actually _run_ it on OS/2. I then > hurriedly sought out version 3 while there were still some left. > I find it surprising that there would be an OS/2 version in > the box and not mentioned on the box. If there really is an OS/2 > version in there, what version is it? Is it really version 4 or 5, > or is it version 3 for OS/2 and the appropriate later version for > other operating systems? > Greg, It's not a question whether there is a OS/2 version or not. (There is no native OS/2 version, since the one in PM3). The question is, can you work with HPFS partitions with PM v4 and v5? The answer is, yes! Check on your PM v4, you'll find a directory OS2INST. If you run the MAKEDISK.BAT you'll create a bootable diskette with a graphical DOS version of PM. Use this diskette when it's time to change anything in your HPFS partition. There is also a textversion of PM, but in order to get to this, you have to first install PM on your hard disk. The box do mention full support for HPFS. And it support hard disks greater than 8.4GB. I don't know if there have been any updates on the OS/2 version. Apart from OS/2, version 3 don't support greater than 8.4GB FAT32 disks. Version 4 does. Jan Swartling Blue Soft --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Blue Soft (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: fisa@jet.uk 12-Nov-99 11:34:10 To: All 12-Nov-99 10:28:26 Subj: Re: OS/2 drivers for Voodoo3 2000 video card From: filippo sartori use scitech display doctor os2 drivers... Filippo only 256 64K modes. do not use 24/32 bit modes... --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: UUNET WorldCom server (post doesn't reflect views (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: horseman@ibm.net 11-Nov-99 11:05:10 To: All 12-Nov-99 10:28:26 Subj: Re: Partition Magic 5.0 upgrade From: Tony Wright Jan Swartling wrote: > On Tue, 9 Nov 1999 02:14:44, "Hal Murray" wrote: > > > I tried Partition Magic 4 on my OS/2 drive and it destroyed my > > extended partition. So I went back to Partition Magic 3 text version. > > > > I don't expect they addresses the Os/2 incompatibility in Version 5. > > Arer you sure that your extended partition was destroyed? It might just > have been converted to a "0F" partition type, which OS/2 don't recognise. > It's easy to restore to the previous "05"-partition type by running the > included PTEDIT program. Jan,Might this also depend on the revision level of PMagic he was using? I had to update to PM 4 from V3 for a 10.8Gb IDE and the upgrade CD was apparently 4.1 (or 4.01 perhaps).I also downloaded PTEDIT in anticipation of having to correct this very problem you referred to... However, cursory tests on re-creatings the Extended partition table appeared to always result in it correctly being defined as 05'X' While there may be some other considerations regarding BIOS/number & type of DASD, the above might be a reasonable indication that it's very likely that V5 would also include this fix and therefore not suffer from this specific problem? Or does this conversion to 0F'X' only mysteriously occur in some scenario's after further manipulating the arrangements of partitions in a particular combination or only occur with V4.0 when initially creating Extended Partitionson on some specific BIOS/DASD combinations? > And I wouldn't call version 4 (or version 5) OS/2 incompatible. I find it > quite easy to run the included OS/2 version from diskette. You can choose > between a graphics and a text version. Oh dear....apparently more confusion/ambiguity?What included OS/2 version on what specific major version of PM? I didn't think V4 had a OS/2 native version (certainly my copy of upgrade CD didn't) after V3?. Is it now re-introduced in V5 or are you actually referring to the contents of the DOS-OS2 directory on CD which therefore is ultimately a DOS version? Perhaps there are some fundamental and significant differences between PowerQuests "upgrade" and "full version" CD's that accounts for these apparent disparities? In any event while not disbelieving "Hals" original observation that PM 4 "allegedly destroyed" his extended partitions I think far more detail would be required on this failure scenario (viz DASD types,sizes,Bios translation,actual FDISK,OS/2 and PM version/fix levels etc) before necessarily concluding that V5 will likely have identical problems? Did the problem occur when creating new partitions or manipulating existing ones? Also if he sucessfully reverted to(and can fully utilise) PM V3 then presumably his DASD size must be 8Gb or less anyway as support for >8Gb was supposedly only added from V4 onwards? Perhaps downloading/applying the service patch from PowerQuest site might resolve these symptoms he previously observed? Eg: Ftp://ftp.powerquest.com/pub/ProductUpdates/PartitionMagic/PartitionMagic4/PMDo s400-401.zip (beware of line wrapping on above URL) > Jan Swartling > Blue Soft > Sweden -- Rgds Tony W Email: horseman@ibm.net "humanum est errare: To err is human .... and to fail is to be a Project Manager... ...but to foul things up completely needs a computer!" --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Equi-Tek CompCon (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jasper_de_keijzer@nl.compuware.com 12-Nov-99 12:24:24 To: All 12-Nov-99 10:28:26 Subj: Re: Quicken 98 to end Quicken Credit Card transaction downloads From: Jasper de Keijzer Mark, You can advice them to compile and link the windows code on OS/2 Warp 4.0. As you probably know OS/2 supports the windows API. Many products like, Acrabat reader, Lotus office suit, Netscape etc are based on this. This should not take too much of an effort, especially not when they still use the 16bit api. Kind regards, Jasper de Keijzer. http://home-5.worldonline.nl/~jdekeij Mark Hood wrote: > Intuit has informed me through the mail that in order to continue > downloading credit card transactions from Quicken Credit Card issued by > Travelers Bank I would have to upgrade to Quicken 2000 Deluxe by November > 15. Quicken 98 is the last 16-bit version of Quicken, so it is the last > version that will run in Win-OS2. > > I've communicated with the support people and it seems unlikely that a patch > will be issued for Quicken 98 to allow it to continue transactions with > their new server, but they didn't rule it out. If no patch will be > available, it seems my options are to either get an account with a big bank > like Wells Fargo that supports on-line banking directly with Quicken 98, or > boot into a W32 OS for Quicken 2000. > > I'd hate to either stop using my credit union or have to boot a Windows OS. > I'm hoping that if there are any others in my situation and they communicate > their concerns to Intuit we may be able to get a patch from them, but if I'm > alone with this problem I guess I'll have to deal with it somehow. > > Anybody else in this boat? > > -- Mark Hood --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Compuware Uniface Amsterdam (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca 12-Nov-99 12:48:01 To: All 12-Nov-99 10:28:26 Subj: Re: HELP! Trouble with gs5.10 & emx From: jdc0014@InfoNET.st-johns.nf.ca (John Hong) SLM (slinaza@bezeroak.euskaltel.es) wrote: : I am unable to print with ghostscript 5.10 and emx09d due to a sys3171 GS5.50 has been out for quite a while now, 6.00 is expected soon. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: St. John's InfoNET (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: postmaster@ecoworld.co.uk 12-Nov-99 09:43:07 To: All 12-Nov-99 10:28:26 Subj: Re: Netscape 4.04 Wanted From: postmaster "Jeffrey S. Kobal" wrote: > postmaster wrote: > > > Troubles? Oh only a few ......................... > > Oh, sorry.... thought you might have wanted some assistance or > suggestions. Go about your tirade, don't > let me interrupt you. > Thanks, we all like a little space to rave - even if its not entirely sensible > > One thing, though. Communicator has nothing to do with MS-DOS... so I > have NO idea what you're > blathering about. We have to use 8.3 filenames because we have to run > on FAT, which uses 8.3 filenames, and won't nicely munge the longname > into a unique 8.3 name (like Windows does), and instead just fails to > create the file. > Thank you > > And what's that about a 16-bit application? Where are you getting > this false information from? > I was referring to Microsoft .......... > > Oh, one more thing.... those DOSCALL1 traps with manipulating folders > and such -- that's a known problem that has already been resolved and > will be available when a fixpack is released. I know > > > Ok, I'm really done this time. Blather on. I'd stopped! Ha! > > > Jeffrey S. Kobal > IBM Corporation Regards, David ________________________________________________________________ David Cooper - Chairman Green-Base Exchange Ltd - Green-Base Shopping Ltd. Waste Recovery + Cleaner Production Technologies = Environmentally Friendly Products = Profits. That's Our Business - Make It Yours! --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Green-Base Exchange Ltd (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: ivan@protein.bio.msu.su 12-Nov-99 16:49:17 To: All 12-Nov-99 14:25:26 Subj: Re: Comm/2 keeps bringing down my system. From: "Ivan Adzhubei" In <382b25ca$1$zpunffba$mr2ice@news3.ibm.net>, on 11/11/99 at 03:21 PM, mchasson@ibm.net said: >In <382a9f52$1$vina$mr2ice@news.msu.ru>, on 11/11/99 at 01:45 PM, > "Ivan Adzhubei" said: >>In <991111085533.19114B-100000@bisv3.bedford.waii.com>, on 11/11/99 >> at 09:41 AM, Steve Drewell said: >>At which fixpak level your Warp 4 system is? I am having severe problems >>with FP12 here, with Comm 4.61 being pretty unusable since applying FP12 >>due to memory leak in pmmerge.dll (confirmed by people from IBM). >>Unofficial pmr00052 fix improves the situation a bit, but I still having >>occasional WPS hangs, mainly after attempting to exit Comm 4.61 and LSS >>1.1. This system used to run in 24/7 mode very stably prior to FP12. >Just out of curiosity, is this still the ASUS p55t2p4 MB? And is it >the Intel HX chip set that they (IBM) are having trouble with again? Yep, your guess is right! Heven't heard about HX problems before tho. Could you please post a few details? Or point me to any other source of info? Haven't seen anything HX-chipset specific in APAR database or elsewhere on IBM sites. Thanks, Ivan P.S. I was thinking about upgrade anyway, but you know, upgrading a production server could be a real pain in the ass! I. -- ----------------------------------------------------------- "Ivan Adzhubei" ----------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Moscow State University (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: ivan@protein.bio.msu.su 12-Nov-99 16:52:25 To: All 12-Nov-99 14:25:26 Subj: Re: Comm/2 keeps bringing down my system. From: "Ivan Adzhubei" In <80gaqh$7m6$1@zook.lafn.org>, on 11/11/99 at 10:09 PM, J. N. Pfisterer said: Hi, >Noted your exchange with Steve Drewell and tried to free-load on it; >but repeated attempts to connect to your ftp resource were >unsuccessful. I suspect that a few others may have been trying too >and beat me to it. No, connections to my server did not reach server limit. However, as I told, we have an extremely poor channel to the outside world at the moment. I can only recommend to use wget or similar program able to retry broken connections automatically and restart broken downloads. Or if anybody has an Internet access from any of the large US universities connected to vBNS (National Science Foundation network), please, try downloading this archive from my server and put it on your site. We have a separate channel to vBNS, very fast and reliable. Sites like princeton.edu, harvard.edu, etc. can access my server without any problems. Unfortunately, the whole Europe is almost cut off of my site... >>PMR00052.ZIP was posted on testcase.boulder.ibm.com a couple of weeks >>ago. You can grab a copy from my ftp: >>ftp://protein.bio.msu.su/pub/os2/fixes/pmr00052.zip >Do you recall exactly where in the testcase.boulder.ibm.com site you >found it. I tried there too; but found it a typical, murky IBM site >and didn't manage to spot pmr00052.zip. Common practice on IBM testcase server is that all unofficial fixes posted there will expire in 2-3 days and removed from the server. You will no longer find any of the fixes I mentioned at testcase. Usual place to check is: ftp://testcase.boulder.ibm.com/ps/fromibm/os2/ >Haven't had that problem, since I shut my system down at night; but >there's something really eating memory now! I have 64megs RAM >installed and kept swapper set to 2 megs with no visible swap activity. >Usually had around 25megs of physical memory available at any time. >Now, the physical memory is evaporating and the swap file is shooting >up to 20megs or more! :( I am experiencing all sorts of weird problems with WPS - corrupted mouse pointer, folders not closing, hangs, etc. And yes, there is a huge memory leak in the original FP12 pmmerge.dll. This was fixed by pmr00052, but not the rest of the problems. I will try kernel fix to see if it helps. >>There's another unofficial post-FP12 fix available, with a new version >>of kernel, but I did not tried it yet. >Is it in the same place on the IBM ftp site? What is it supposed to >fix? Yes, but it has also already expired. The readme says it fixes the problem with too large stack allocated by FP12 kernel. You can find it at: ftp://protein.bio.msu.su/pub/os2/fixes/02617k.zip >Thanks for offering the ftp and supplying all this good info. There's a depository for unofficial fixes arranged on another server here in Russia. Unfortunately, this server also has rather poor access from the US, and all the file listings are in Russian. Cheers, Ivan -- ----------------------------------------------------------- "Ivan Adzhubei" ----------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Moscow State University (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nospam@nospamnospam.com 12-Nov-99 14:46:12 To: All 12-Nov-99 14:25:26 Subj: Re: Comm/2 v4.61 easter egg From: nospam@nospamnospam.com (Magnus Olsson) On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 21:50:00, alan@min.net.notspam wrote: > In <382abe35$2$obot$mr2ice@news.pics.com>, on 11/11/99 > at 07:59 AM, Bob Germer said: > > It's hardly a big deal. The guys worked hard on Comm 4.61, and gave it to > us gratis. If they want to stick a little easter egg in there in return, They were paid to do that. Communicator for OS/2 is *not* freeware. > bully for them. The price is right. You have paid for Warp 4 I hope? Communicator is part of the package (a natural follow-up to Nescape Navigator) - all the best Magnus --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Utfors AB (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nospam@nospamnospam.com 12-Nov-99 14:46:15 To: All 12-Nov-99 14:25:26 Subj: Re: Comm/2 v4.61 easter egg From: nospam@nospamnospam.com (Magnus Olsson) On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 07:00:30, "Jeffrey S. Kobal" wrote: > Credit... recognition... pride... motivation. Sometimes a > little pat on the back can go a long way towards improving > how a person produces. > > Jeffrey S. Kobal OK, I'll pat you on the back right now:-), well done! > IBM Corporation I guess they need a huge pat on the back too... - all the best Magnus --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Utfors AB (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bdavis@fn.net 12-Nov-99 15:07:28 To: All 12-Nov-99 14:25:26 Subj: Re: IBM WAKE UP From: bdavis@fn.net (Brian Davis) On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 09:15:12, "dinkmeister" wrote: > Development for Smack!, Staroffice and MainActor has been > screwed a bit because of the buggy VAC++ 4.0 compiler! sheesh! > > Is this your way of finally killing off all the OS/2 users/developers? > > I wanna know.. > > > Me thinks you already know the answer dude. The morons in upper management can't pull their collective heads out of their collective butts long enough to think about anything except how to meet the expectations of the so called financial wizards on Wall Street. That's my take on the way it is. Damn.....this was cathartic. :-) Brian Davis (bdavis@fn.net) --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bdavis@fn.net 12-Nov-99 21:24:12 To: All 12-Nov-99 19:52:27 Subj: Re: IBM WAKE UP From: bdavis@fn.net (Brian Davis) On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 17:06:10, lifedata@xxvol.com wrote: > bdavis@fn.net (Brian Davis) said: > > >Me thinks you already know the answer dude. The morons in > >upper management can't pull their collective heads out of their collective > >butts long enough to think about anything except > >how to meet the expectations of the so called financial wizards on Wall > >Street. That's my take on the way it is. > > >Damn.....this was cathartic. :-) > > Now, now, now! You know perfectly well it is very old fashioned to think > any corporation any longer thinks about anything but cash. Function, > public spirit and common sense simply aren't in the equation any more. > How true.......I stand corrected. Brian Davis (bdavis@fn.net) --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bbarclay@ca.ibm.com 12-Nov-99 16:10:08 To: All 12-Nov-99 19:52:27 Subj: Re: IBM WAKE UP From: Brad BARCLAY dinkmeister wrote: > > Development for Smack!, Staroffice and MainActor has been > screwed a bit because of the buggy VAC++ 4.0 compiler! sheesh! > > Is this your way of finally killing off all the OS/2 users/developers? > > I wanna know.. I unfortunately don't have an answer (and I really wish I did...), but is there *anything* keeping any of these companies from using VAC++ v3.0, which doesn't seem to have the limitations these groups are talking about (most of IBM's OS/2 products are compiled with VAC++ v3.0 AFAIK, and many of them are significantly bigger than any of the above mentioned products)? Brad BARCLAY =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Posted from the OS/2 WARP v4.5 desktop of Brad BARCLAY. E-Mail: bbarclay@ca.ibm.com Location: 2G43D@Torolabs --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: IBM Toronto Labs, DB2 for OS/2 Install Developer (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rcpj@panix.com 12-Nov-99 22:26:25 To: All 12-Nov-99 21:25:08 Subj: Re: Can OS/2 users grow up and think like Linux users? From: rcpj@panix.com (Pierre Jelenc) Raphael Tennenbaum writes: > > Some people report that drag'n'drop or moving files isn't > working any more. I suspect this is related to changes to > the new "File exists" dialog. Disable that dialog in > "Workplace Shell". If the problem does not go away, mail > me if you've found something interesting, but other > than that, I don't know what the problem is. Ah, right. It's the "Replace confirmation dialogs" under "File operations" that is the culprit. Thanks. > PS: I *need* Three Brass Balls. Any chance there's a sample MP3 > anywhere? Indeed. Best is to follow the links at www.web-ho.com/sounds/pawnshop.html or go directly to www.mp3.com/pawnshop Pierre -- Pierre Jelenc | The Cucumbers' "Total Vegetility" is out! | Pawnshop's "Three Brass Balls" is out! The New York City Beer Guide | RAW Kinder's "CD EP" is out! http://www.nycbeer.org | Home Office Records http://www.web-ho.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Public Access Networks Corp. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jhimmel@i-2000.com 12-Nov-99 23:46:13 To: All 12-Nov-99 21:25:08 Subj: Re: David H. McCoy From: jhimmel@i-2000.com (James Himmelman) On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 02:30:06, David H. McCoy wrote: > I'll pass this on to your mom. She does fit your description. But heck, she > certainly knows how to have a good time. Did you know that she is able to place > here feet on her own shoulders? > > Incredible!! > > Tonight, I think that I'll drag her around by her hair before sticking it to > her! > --------------------------------------- > David H. McCoy > dmccoy@EXTRACT_THIS_mnsinc.com > --------------------------------------- I see you are running out of ways to defend your position. I do hope you seek help though. I don't like seeing anyone fall apart like this, not even you. [[[ James Himmelman - jhimmel@i-2000.com ]]] --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk 12-Nov-99 23:47:27 To: All 12-Nov-99 21:25:08 Subj: Re: Theta Band Software announces the distribution of MMPack through From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak) In <3826283D.3AF2C018@pec.co.nz>, Aaron Lawrence writes: >Julien Pierre wrote: > >> Theta Band Software's Multimedia Pack for OS/2 is now available for >> ordering >> through Mensys at http://www.mensys.nl . > >I had a look at this, and it's cool, but the things in it aren't really >compelling to me. There are more pressing problems with MMOS/2 such as the >lack of much PCI soundcard support. IMHO. I'm looking for an excuse to buy this, but don't really see what it gives me... Now if it was guaranteed to set up sound on my diskless IBM Network Station I would probably give it a try. -- John --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Legend Internet Ltd (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com 12-Nov-99 22:58:09 To: All 12-Nov-99 21:25:08 Subj: Re: Partition Magic 5.0 upgrade From: donnelly@tampabay.rr.com (Buddy Donnelly) On Fri, 12 Nov 1999 20:44:21, "Hal Murray" a Úcrit dans un message: > > > Are you sure that your extended partition was destroyed? It > might just > > > have been converted to a "0F" partition type, which OS/2 don't > recognise. > > > It's easy to restore to the previous "05"-partition type by > running the > > > included PTEDIT program. > > You are correct. PM 4 did not destroy the extended partition but as > you noted above but changed the partition type. I tried PTEDIT but > could seem to get OS/2 to 'get inside' the partition. By the way, the latest update to V-Com's System Commander Deluxe, version 4.031, the multi-boot utility, now includes some partition editing tools that appear to allow you to change the partition type manually. As well as geometries, boundaries, etc. Very dangerous power to have, but it's there. Along with the standard v.4 stuff that duplicates many PQMagic partition functions. I've got a working system so I didn't want to test the changes it might make, but I throw this out there as a possible tool to use in such a case. It also should be mentioned that the program includes a *lot* of notes regarding the use of OS/2 alongside other OSs, especially the destructive habits of Micro$oft installs. And some OS/2-specific troubleshooting stuff you don't often see, as well. Funny how, as PQMagic gets farther and farther from OS/2 usefulness, System Commander gets closer to it. Their SCIN executable is only a DOS program, but as long as your BIOS is reporting the same drive geometries as your OS/2 drivers do, I don't think you can get into trouble creating settings with it that screw things up in OS/2. -- Good luck, Buddy Buddy Donnelly donnelly@tampabay.rr.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: RoadRunner - TampaBay (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: alan@min.net.notspam 12-Nov-99 23:15:16 To: All 12-Nov-99 21:25:08 Subj: Re: cannot find winsock.dll - Quicken 98 From: alan@min.net.notspam In , on 11/11/99 at 06:28 PM, Anssi Saari said: >> f:\tcpip\dos\etc, which is listed as "set etc=" in autoexec.bat. Quicken >> is set for direct internet connection. >Winsock.dll needs to be in your (DOS) path, not %etc%. So should I stick it in c:\os2\mdos\winos2? --------------------------------------------------------------------- *** Please remove .notspam from my address to reply via e-mail. *** Nerve Center BBS (Fidonet 1:261/1000) 410-655-4708 Posted by Alan Hess using registered MR/2 ICE Newsreader #564 --------------------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: @Home Network (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: alan@min.net.notspam 12-Nov-99 23:22:08 To: All 12-Nov-99 21:25:08 Subj: proxy browser From: alan@min.net.notspam Sometimes when accessing a website, Communicator/2 spawns the windows proxy browser. However, the proxy browser never closes, not when leaving the site that spawned it, and not even after exiting Communicator. I have to use a process killer to kill it (and the proxy browser pegs my cpu at 100%.) How do I fix the proxy browser to close on its own? I don't even know how it opens! --------------------------------------------------------------------- *** Please remove .notspam from my address to reply via e-mail. *** Nerve Center BBS (Fidonet 1:261/1000) 410-655-4708 Posted by Alan Hess using registered MR/2 ICE Newsreader #564 --------------------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: @Home Network (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: alan@min.net.notspam 12-Nov-99 23:25:27 To: All 12-Nov-99 21:25:08 Subj: Re: Comm/2 v4.61 easter egg From: alan@min.net.notspam In , on 11/12/99 at 02:46 PM, nospam@nospamnospam.com (Magnus Olsson) said: >> bully for them. The price is right. >You have paid for Warp 4 I hope? Communicator is part of the package (a >natural follow-up to Nescape Navigator) Yes, I paid for Warp 4, and Warp 3, and OS/2 2.11. --------------------------------------------------------------------- *** Please remove .notspam from my address to reply via e-mail. *** Nerve Center BBS (Fidonet 1:261/1000) 410-655-4708 Posted by Alan Hess using registered MR/2 ICE Newsreader #564 --------------------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: @Home Network (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-boch... 13-Nov-99 01:51:17 To: All 12-Nov-99 21:25:08 Subj: Re: IBM WAKE UP Message sender: christian.hennecke@ruhr-uni-bochum.de From: Christian Hennecke Brad BARCLAY schrieb: > > dinkmeister wrote: > > > > Development for Smack!, Staroffice and MainActor has been > > screwed a bit because of the buggy VAC++ 4.0 compiler! sheesh! > > > > Is this your way of finally killing off all the OS/2 users/developers? > > > > I wanna know.. > > I unfortunately don't have an answer (and I really wish I did...), but > is there *anything* keeping any of these companies from using VAC++ > v3.0, which doesn't seem to have the limitations these groups are > talking about (most of IBM's OS/2 products are compiled with VAC++ v3.0 > AFAIK, and many of them are significantly bigger than any of the above > mentioned products)? Yes! Some are using features that 3.0 doesn't provide and they chose VAC++ because it's available for both Win and OS/2. Christian Hennecke -- Keep passing the open windows! ("The Hotel New Hampshire", John Irving) --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: not organized (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +============================================================================+