comp.os.os2.networking.misc (Usenet) Saturday, 06-Nov-1999 to Friday, 12-Nov-1999 +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: alan@min.net.notspam 06-Nov-99 02:04:16 To: All 06-Nov-99 03:33:25 Subj: Re: Quicken 98 under os/2 From: alan@min.net.notspam In , on 11/05/99 at 01:27 AM, lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) said: >> >> Which ETC should be my ETC directory, \tcpip\dos\etc or \mptn\etc? I keep >> seeing different recommendations. >The SET ETC=\mptn\etc command is for CONFIG.SYS >and applies to OS/2 applications. >The SET ETC=\TCPIP\DOS\ETC is for AUTOEXEC.BAT >and applies to DOS and WINOS2 applications. This makes sense! Thanks. Let's hope it solves my problems. Where does winsock.dll belong, in \tcpip\dos\etc? I know there should be only one one copy, and it should be the one the came with Warp. --------------------------------------------------------------------- *** Please remove .notspam from my address to reply via e-mail. *** Nerve Center BBS (Fidonet 1:261/1000) 410-655-4708 Posted by Alan Hess using registered MR/2 ICE Newsreader #564 --------------------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: @Home Network (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: fgearhart@voyager.net 06-Nov-99 01:42:24 To: All 06-Nov-99 03:33:25 Subj: Re: OS/2 networking questions.. From: fgearhart@voyager.net On Fri, 5 Nov 1999 05:09:51, lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) wrote: > On Fri, 5 Nov 1999 04:55:32, fgearhart@voyager.net wrote: > > > My office is running Win9x across a Novell network, I believe, and at > > the moment thats about all I know about it. My laptop is setup so > > that if I boot to Windows it connects to the network. Can anyone > > point me to a FAQ that will tell me how I can get OS/2 to hook up to > > the network? I understand computers in general fairly well, but > > _networking_ per se loses me, so I'm interested in something fairly > > rudimentary. (Tab A goes in Slot B, type this: xxx, etc..) What I > > need to have installed in OS/2, software, etc.. As usual the folks > > who setup our network know ixnay about OS/2 so I'm SOL there. > > > > I'd much rather be using OS/2 than windows, so _any_ help is greatly > > appreciated! > > Obtain the Novell network client for OS/2 from: > > URL http://techsupport.services.ibm.com/asd-bin/doc/en_us/catalog.htm > > Install OS/2 > > Install the Novell Network Client. > > This client works with Novell servers up to 4.12. > > Lorne Sunley > Thats it? I don't have to go rooting about in seldom used ini files typing arcane commands and switchs?? Sweet! But seriously, thanks a lot, I really appreciate the advice! Fritz --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Voyager.Net - East Lansing, MI (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com 05-Nov-99 19:13:16 To: All 06-Nov-99 03:33:25 Subj: Re: Quicken 98 under os/2 From: "Graham C. Norris" John Poltorak wrote: > Can someone explain the point of having %ETC% using different directories > under OS/2 and DOS? I'd much rather have a single hosts file which is used > from all environments. It's quite likely because ETC doesn't always just contain a couple of tables of data, especially on *nix. Also, if the DOS support is less capable than the OS/2 support, some of the files you don't change may need to be different. Finally, if you have dual boot you may actually want a separate DOS ETC directory for TCP/IP under DOS (the OS/2 one might be on HPFS). I'll agree it's a pain! 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I've been asking Cristie if they will be providing OS/2 drivers for the Onstream 30/50 GB tape drives, and they hope to have something available in a month or two. These drives seem too good to be true, pricewise, - no idea on reliability though... >-- >Remove REMOVE_ME to reply. >------------------------------------------------------------------- >Charles Christacopoulos, Secretary's Office, University of Dundee, >Dundee DD1 4HN, (Scotland) United Kingdom. >Tel: +44+(0)1382-344891. Fax: +44+(0)1382-201604. >http://somis.ais.dundee.ac.uk/ (runs on OS/2) >Scottish Search Maestro http://somis2.ais.dundee.ac.uk/ (runs on OS/2 >too) -- John --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Legend Internet Ltd (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: myself@pbn.dp.ua 06-Nov-99 17:34:09 To: All 06-Nov-99 14:36:00 Subj: !PCTCP 1.3.1 for OS/2 From: Ivan Klimenko Hi ! I'm _must_ use PCTCP 1.3.1 for OS/2 by FTP Software (in some reason). How i can tell this stack use PAP/CHAP autorization ? After dial and get `CONNECT ...` string COMSRPT.EXE somthing wait. Run: comscrpt alkar dial --- cut pctcp.ini --- [pctcp comscrpt alkar] dialup = e:\pctcp\etc\dialup.scr hangup = e:\pctcp\etc\hangup.scr serial = alkar [pctcp serial alkar] baud = 38400 port = 2 irq = 3 --- cut pctcp.ini --- --- cut e:\pctcp\etc\dialup.scr --- send ATZ\r pause 1 send ATDt34-00-33\r pause 1 --- cut e:\pctcp\etc\dialup.scr --- -- Ivan Klimenko [Team OS/2] e-mail: myself@pbn.dp.ua net-mail: 2:464/69.11@fidonet, 2:464/27.26@fidonet ccmail: Ivan Klimenko at Privat-Nikopol --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: PrivatBank, Nikopol Branch (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: swsnyder@home.com 06-Nov-99 17:46:26 To: All 06-Nov-99 16:43:23 Subj: Re: Need new tape backup From: "Steve Snyder" On Sat, 06 Nov 1999 17:37:50 GMT, Stephen Eickhoff (remove the - to reply) wrote: >"Camilla Cracchiolo (Camilla Cracchiolo, R.N.)" wrote: [snip] >> I'm considering a Seagate SCSI 8 Gig backup. Anyone here have >> experience with this drive? Also, I'm currently using Backmaster. >> Will it support this tape drive or do I have to get BackAgain/2? >> >> Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the >> newsgroup. > >I have the ST8000N and use it with Novaback. It works great, I usually get >about 38MB/min >with it. You MUST get a cleaner kit, though, and use it every few backups. I >let my drive get dirty and had to use three swabs on it just to do a full >restore. I too have a ST8000N which I use with Seagate's Backup Exec. As noted above, this drive is fast. I'm very happy with it. ***** Steve Snyder ***** --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: @Home Network (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: operagost@e-mail.com 06-Nov-99 17:37:25 To: All 06-Nov-99 16:43:23 Subj: Re: Need new tape backup From: "Stephen Eickhoff (remove the - to reply)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------A4DCB7A443A83DE1C6998BBF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Camilla Cracchiolo (Camilla Cracchiolo, R.N.)" wrote: > I have to get a new tape drive. I've got a HP Traven T-3000. > > I'd like to get away from HP products altogether. They have great > tech support, but I suspect that's because their products die so > often. (Long history of failures here). > > I'm considering a Seagate SCSI 8 Gig backup. Anyone here have > experience with this drive? Also, I'm currently using Backmaster. > Will it support this tape drive or do I have to get BackAgain/2? > > Please send me an e-mail copy of any replies you post to the > newsgroup. I have the ST8000N and use it with Novaback. It works great, I usually get about 38MB/min with it. You MUST get a cleaner kit, though, and use it every few backups. I let my drive get dirty and had to use three swabs on it just to do a full restore. Backmaster 2 should support the drive, but I dumped them a while ago because the program was so slow. Novaback is nice because they include Windows and OS/2 versions in the same box. -- ---------------------------------- Stephen Eickhoff Havertown, PA ---------------------------------- --------------A4DCB7A443A83DE1C6998BBF Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="operagost.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Stephen Eickhoff (remove the - to reply) Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="operagost.vcf" begin:vcard n:Eickhoff;Stephen tel;work:610-341-8571 x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:Johnson Matthey, CSD NA;Information Technology adr:;;456 Devon Park Drive;wayne;PA;19087; version:2.1 email;internet:operagost@email.com title:PC Support Analyst end:vcard --------------A4DCB7A443A83DE1C6998BBF-- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jkross@TIRED_OF_SPAM@oxford.net 06-Nov-99 21:09:28 To: All 06-Nov-99 16:43:23 Subj: Re: Quicken 98 under os/2 From: jkross@TIRED_OF_SPAM@oxford.net (John Ross) In message <38238caf$6$nynaurff$mr2ice@news> - alan@min.net.notspam writes: :> :>In , on 11/05/99 :> at 01:27 AM, lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) said: :>>> :>>> Which ETC should be my ETC directory, \tcpip\dos\etc or \mptn\etc? I keep :>>> seeing different recommendations. :> :>>The SET ETC=\mptn\etc command is for CONFIG.SYS :>>and applies to OS/2 applications. :> :>>The SET ETC=\TCPIP\DOS\ETC is for AUTOEXEC.BAT :>>and applies to DOS and WINOS2 applications. In my system SET ETC=C:\MPTN\ETC is the same in the autoexec.bat and config.sys. but note: if you have SET ETC=C:\MPTN\ETC in one and SET ETC= C:\MPTN\ETC in the other it will not work. Took me the longest time to see the error. This is on a Warp4 system. >This makes sense! Thanks. Let's hope it solves my problems. :> :>Where does winsock.dll belong, in \tcpip\dos\etc? I know there should be :>only one one copy, and it should be the one the came with Warp. Anywhere in a defined path in your autoexec.bat but C:\TCPIP\dos\bin is common place to find it. :> :> :>--------------------------------------------------------------------- :> :> *** Please remove .notspam from my address to reply via e-mail. *** :> :> Nerve Center BBS (Fidonet 1:261/1000) 410-655-4708 :> :> Posted by Alan Hess using registered MR/2 ICE Newsreader #564 :> :>--------------------------------------------------------------------- :> -john ross http://www.oxford.net/~jkross Remove "@I_hate_spam" from address to reply.... -- "Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea -- massive, difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind-boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it."--spaf@cs.purdue.edu (1992) --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Organization of Irate People (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: sma.spam-not@rtd.com 06-Nov-99 21:53:15 To: All 06-Nov-99 20:02:24 Subj: Re: Need new tape backup From: James Moe Steve Snyder wrote: > > > I too have a ST8000N which I use with Seagate's Backup Exec. > You do? I thought Seagate dropped os/2 support. The STT8000N came out long after they stopped updating their os/2 program. -- sma at rtd dot com Remove ".spam-not" for email --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Sohnen-Moe Associates, Inc (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk 06-Nov-99 22:47:19 To: All 06-Nov-99 20:02:24 Subj: Re: Quicken 98 under os/2 From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak) In <38239CDC.BA3A27C@linkline.com>, "Graham C. Norris" writes: >John Poltorak wrote: >> Can someone explain the point of having %ETC% using different directories >> under OS/2 and DOS? I'd much rather have a single hosts file which is used >> from all environments. > >It's quite likely because ETC doesn't always just contain a couple of >tables of data, especially on *nix. Yes, on Unix systems there lots of file stored in ETC. But it doesn't matter how many files are there, as long as the ones required by particular applications are there. >Also, if the DOS support is less >capable than the OS/2 support, some of the files you don't change may >need to be different. Which files might need to be different? > Finally, if you have dual boot you may actually >want a separate DOS ETC directory for TCP/IP under DOS (the OS/2 one >might be on HPFS). If you have dual boot, the OS/2 one will not be on HPFS. > I'll agree it's a pain! > >Graham. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Legend Internet Ltd (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: notlucius1@acmppi.com 06-Nov-99 22:14:03 To: All 06-Nov-99 20:02:25 Subj: Re: Surevey: Linux VS. Windows NT VS. NetWare From: notlucius1@acmppi.com (Lucius Chiaraviglio) Without answering the questions themselves, I will point out the ways that the following poll is flawed: "Soren" wrote: >Hi, My name is Soren Winslow. I am a student at Heald College. In my basic >networking class I have been asked to conduct the following Poll. If you are >a networking guru, geek or professional, would you please answer the >following survey. Thank You, Soren. soren@webresumes.cx > >___________________________________________________________________ >Which Network Operating System do you prefer? >A- Linux >B- Windows NT >C- NetWare You should at least provide a "D- Other" choice here. Several other network-capable operating systems are in common use, notably FreeBSD, Solaris, SCO Unix, and MacOS (and in the future, separately from standard MacOS, also MacOS X, which is already in at least limited release for use as a server operating system); this is not an exhaustive list. Also, you should distinguish between Windows 95/98 and Windows NT. VMS, Ultrix (now Tru64 Unix), and various IBM mainframe operating systems used to be extremely common (and maybe some of them still are). >2- Rank the reasons (1-5) why you chose the OS you picked in question #1. >Compatibility >Cost >Security >Stability >The logo You should at least provide an "Other" choice here, and in addition you should really add performance, licensing, and availability of source code as explicit options. The latter two are very important to many users of Linux, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and NetBSD. >3- How did you learn about the OS you picked in question #1. >A- School >B- Self-Study >C- Work Considering the rest of this poll, I am surprised you didn't include categories "D- Advertising" and "E- Provided with the computer". >4- Rank (1-3) which OS you believe is most stable. >Linux >Windows NT >NetWare > >5- Rank (1-3) which OS you believe is easiest to install. >Linux >Windows NT >NetWare > >6- Rank (1-3) which OS you believe has the best security features. > Linux >Windows NT >NetWare > >7- Rank (1-3) which OS you believe is easiest to use. >Linux >Windows NT >NetWare See my comment above about Question 1. For the last 3(!) of these, a lot of people would choose MacOS and have some basis for making that choice, even if not totally correct. >8- What is your occupation? > >9- What is your age? These two questions demonstrate why multiple-choice questions are hard to make non-flawed without consuming an inordinate amount of space (although age, being linear, could reasonably be divided into bins). >10- What is your education? >A- High School >B- Some College >C- College Graduate As someone else pointed out, you should also provide other choices. A handful of people who would have reason to take this poll might not have finished high school, while others might have gotten post-college degrees. Lucius Chiaraviglio | notlucius1@acmppi.com -- To reply to this message, remove the first three letters from my user name. If you are seeing this in an e-mail message, it is because I am posting it from my news reader -- normal e-mail messages from me do not have this feature. -- News and mail access temporarily reprieved. But downsizing can only be delayed, not cheated. New date of access loss is 11/21/1999 +- 1 day. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Advanced CMP Products, Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: swsnyder@home.com 07-Nov-99 02:07:16 To: All 07-Nov-99 03:28:17 Subj: Re: Need new tape backup From: "Steve Snyder" On Sat, 06 Nov 1999 21:53:30 GMT, James Moe wrote: >Steve Snyder wrote: >> >> >> I too have a ST8000N which I use with Seagate's Backup Exec. >> > You do? I thought Seagate dropped os/2 support. The STT8000N came >out long after they stopped updating their os/2 program. Maybe the STT8000N is compatible with some drive that is officially supported. In any case, Seagate Backup Exec v3.0 (file dates are 10/31/96) *does* work with that tape drive. ***** Steve Snyder ***** --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: @Home Network (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: spam_free_norrisg@linkline.com 06-Nov-99 18:20:02 To: All 07-Nov-99 03:28:17 Subj: Re: Quicken 98 under os/2 From: "Graham C. Norris" John Poltorak wrote: > >Also, if the DOS support is less > >capable than the OS/2 support, some of the files you don't change may > >need to be different. > > Which files might need to be different? Well, I don't know, I didn't write this stuff! > > Finally, if you have dual boot you may actually > >want a separate DOS ETC directory for TCP/IP under DOS (the OS/2 one > >might be on HPFS). > > If you have dual boot, the OS/2 one will not be on HPFS. You can stick your ETC directory where-ever you like, you can install TCP/IP on HPFS in a dual boot environment. Graham. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: gnilsen@smartt.com 07-Nov-99 04:19:03 To: All 07-Nov-99 03:28:17 Subj: Re: Connecting to a network - NIC-drivers needed! From: gnilsen@smartt.com (Gordon Nilsen) On Thu, 4 Nov 1999 15:03:32, no.spam.please.fwegener@bornundpartner.com (FW) wrote: > Ok, so I have to use an OS/2-client. > > First off, let me say that I'm not really an OS/2-User. I need it to > run a Workflow-Buildtime by IBM, I don't usually work with it, > administrate it or use any applications under it. I don't really know > too much about it. > > So, I'd like to connect to an NT-Network. I'm Admin for that, so I can > pretty much do what I want to - as long as I know what I have to do. > > I run OS/2 Warp 4 on an old PC (AMD K5 150 / 32MB RAM / 3COM 900 COMBO > - NIC) > > First off, I don't have drivers for the NIC, which is a 3COM 900 > Combo. The 3COM-homepage wasn't really very useful, so if anyone has a > driver for that card and could send it to me or tell me where to get > one I'd be most thankful. > > Once that obstacle is taken I'll propably call for help again, because > last time I tried this on a PC I had NIC-drivers for, it didn't work > either, and I'm sure I'll run into the same problems again! > > Thanks, > > Frank Hi Frank Here is the URL to the latest driver files http://www.support.3com.com/infodeli/tools/nic/index.htm Use the third pulldown menu and choose your card. There will be three files. You will only need the third disk. Extraxt the files, and go to the NDIS\OS2 directory for the three files. The next Problem can probablally be solved by going to http://www.mit.edu/activities/os2/peer/WARPPEER.HTM I hope this will help Gordon --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: 2ic Systems Inc. (SmarttNet) (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jcs16587@aol.com 07-Nov-99 17:33:11 To: All 07-Nov-99 15:15:22 Subj: FS: Misc Network Equip From: jcs16587@aol.com (JCS16587) Xyplex MaxServer, Terminal Servers For details on the following items visit http://www.nbase-xyplex.com/products/access_server/maxserver_series.cfm Model 1620 qty of 1 - Equipped with 20 RJ45 ports, 1 10Base-T port and 1 AUI. Includes memory card. 19" Rack mount. $120.00 OBO. Model 1640 qty of 1 - Equipped with 40 RJ45 ports, 1 10Base-T port and 1 AUI. Includes memory card. 19" Rack mount. $150.00 OBO. 3Com Communications Server Model ESPL-200 qty. of 7 - Equipped with 10 RS232 ports and 1 AUI port.. $125.00 each. 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Personal checks accepted but shipment will be held ten (10) days for check clearing. Cash is fine for local pickups. If interested, email Bob at jcs16587@aol.com, or call 919 556-6928. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: AOL http://www.aol.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: simon.stone@firex.freeserve.co.uk 07-Nov-99 18:46:03 To: All 07-Nov-99 15:15:22 Subj: OS/2 File Server From: "Simon Stone" I've had a copy of OS/2 Warp (Version 3) sitting in a draw for a while and when I have come to use it I've run into a few problems, well actually a rather large one.... One of my spare PC's is a dedicated file server.. It's a 486 DX4-100 with 64MB RAM, 1 540MB IDE hard disk, 2 2.0GB SCSI Drives and 1 25GB IDE Drive, CD-ROM and Novell Anthem NE2000 I've managed to install OS/2 ok, but I can't find anyway of making it a fileserver !!!! Someone please help me..... --- PLEASE REPLY VAI E-Mail !!! --- Simon Trust me with your life.... But not with your money or wife He Who Dares....Wins ! E-mail : simon.stone@firex.freeserve.co.uk --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Customer of Planet Online (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca 07-Nov-99 19:11:07 To: All 07-Nov-99 15:15:22 Subj: Re: OS/2 File Server From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 18:46:06, "Simon Stone" wrote: > I've had a copy of OS/2 Warp (Version 3) sitting in a draw for a while and > when I have come to use it I've run into a few problems, well actually a > rather large one.... > > One of my spare PC's is a dedicated file server.. > > It's a 486 DX4-100 with 64MB RAM, 1 540MB IDE hard disk, 2 2.0GB SCSI Drives > and 1 25GB IDE Drive, CD-ROM and Novell Anthem NE2000 > > I've managed to install OS/2 ok, but I can't find anyway of making it a > fileserver !!!! > > Someone please help me..... E-Mailed and posted Warp 3, unless it is Warp 3 "Connect" does not include the "File and Print Services Client" that is required to implement file sharing. If you want to set up a dedicated file server for a small LAN you will have to obtain Warp 3 connect, or Warp Server 4 Entry Level (which is based on the Warp 3 Kernel) or Warp Server for e-Business or Warp 4 (which also has the "File and Print Services Client". Warp 3 (non-connect) does not contain the MPTS code for networking. This code implements the NETBIOS and TCP/IP protocols that are required for LAN operations. Lorne Sunley --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: MBnet Networking Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: leslie@clio.rice.edu 07-Nov-99 20:07:07 To: All 07-Nov-99 20:07:01 Subj: Re: Surevey: Linux VS. Windows NT VS. NetWare From: leslie@clio.rice.edu (Jerry Leslie) Lucius Chiaraviglio (notlucius1@acmppi.com) wrote: : VMS, Ultrix (now Tru64 Unix), and various IBM mainframe operating : systems used to be extremely common (and maybe some of them still are). Correction: Ultrix is NOT Tru64 Unix, which was formerly OSF/1. Ultrix ran on MIPS-based and VAX-based systems, Tru64, formerly OSF/1, only runs on ALPHAs. Plans to port Tru64 to the Merced processor have been dropped. VMS is still very much alive in the process control/scada world, in spite of the push to Windows NT by the PHBs. It's also used by organizations who need REAL 24 by 7 availibiliy, such as banks: http://www.success-stories.digital.com/css/cgi-bin/cssextusr/s=display/i=30 VMS Clusters' Trial By Fire Guess what systems run Intel's production lines ? VAX/VMS. The Sabre airline reservation system is still using IBM MVS systems; look at: http://www.sabre.com/ --Jerry Leslie (my opinions are strictly my own) --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: None (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: mmellin@home.com 07-Nov-99 22:12:17 To: All 07-Nov-99 20:07:02 Subj: Warp's MPTS Config with NT4 Peer From: mmellin@home.com (Mark Mellin) I'm a bit confused between the adapters/slots/logical/physical and the necessary protocols for connecting a gateway/local lan. The "network" (HA!!), is a home built spiders nest of wires as follows: OS/2 Peer (FP-8412) Gateway: ---------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------- Set up with the hostname from my ISP, and the computer name as "NAME-1" in domain "WARPNET", with MPTS (FP-8620) configured for: 2 x NICs (RTL8139, and SMC1211TX) with; ** - SMC1211TX, 10BaseT from cable modem. 0 - IBM OS/2 NETBIOS 0 - IBM TCP/IP ** - RTL8139, 100BaseT to hub. 2 - IBM OS/2 NETBIOS over TCP/IP 1 - IBM OS/2 NETBIOS 1 - IBM TCP/IP Questions: ---------- Do I have the protocols installed correctly ? Do I really need NetBios on the SMC NIC ? Do I need NetBios on the RTL NIC, for NT, perhaps just for other Peer OS2 machines ? Is the RTL NIC's logical adapter numbers correct and in the right order ? Can/should there be a domain name for a peer gateway ? Should the computer name be differerent from the local machine name assigned by my ISP ? TCP/IP 4.1, FP-1001 is configured as: --------------------------------------------------- Lan-0: - Static IP/subnet from cable modem ISP *working* Lan-1: - My local IP/subnet (192.168.1.1 & 255.255.255.0) *not working* LoopBack: - 127.0.0.0 with no subnet Routing: - "Default", ISP's router, metric=1 - IP Forwarding is on I have no idea what the "net" & "host" or "default routes" are... Host Names: - Host & local domain from/for ISP - Names servers from/for ISP Questions: ---------- None really - other than the difference between the "default", "net" and "host" are (the on-line help did precious little to explain this) The other half is NT4 (and I suspect is the problem)... NT4 Client (SP5) peer: ---------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------- Configured as "NAME-2" of "WARPNET", with: 1 x NICs (RTL8139) with; ** - RTL8139, 100BaseT from hub. NetBEUI Protocol TCP/IP Protocol Computer Name is "NAME-2" Workgroup is "WARPNET" Static IP is 192.168.1.2 Subnet is 255.255.255.0 Default Gateway is 192.168.1.1 *all* of the DNS info is as assigned by my ISP. IP forwarding is on. Questions: ---------- Should the workgroup be "WARPNET" ? Should the Default Gateway be my gateway, and not the ISP's gateway ? Should IP forwarding be on for a peer machine ? Should all of the DNS entries on a peer be set to/for the provider ? Why am I setting up a network in my home ?? Where can I find a BIG cold beer Thanks in advance for *any* help with this lunacy !! Mark Mellin --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: @Home Network (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: dcasey@ibm.net 07-Nov-99 17:03:29 To: All 07-Nov-99 20:07:02 Subj: Re: OS/2 File Server From: dcasey@ibm.net (Dan Casey) OS/2 Warp Version 3 is NOT LAN ready. The only connectivity included in that package is Dial-Up TCP/IP. You need at least Warp Connect (which is the network ready version of Warp 3) or Warp 4. In article <804hhc$nhs$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Simon Stone" wrote: >I've had a copy of OS/2 Warp (Version 3) sitting in a draw for a while and >when I have come to use it I've run into a few problems, well actually a >rather large one.... > >One of my spare PC's is a dedicated file server.. > >It's a 486 DX4-100 with 64MB RAM, 1 540MB IDE hard disk, 2 2.0GB SCSI Drives >and 1 25GB IDE Drive, CD-ROM and Novell Anthem NE2000 > >I've managed to install OS/2 ok, but I can't find anyway of making it a >fileserver !!!! > >Someone please help me..... >--- PLEASE REPLY VAI E-Mail !!! --- > >Simon > > Trust me with your life.... But not with your money or wife > > He Who Dares....Wins ! > > E-mail : simon.stone@firex.freeserve.co.uk > > -- ************************************************************** * Dan Casey * * President * * V.O.I.C.E. (Virtual OS/2 International Consumer Education * * http://www.os2voice.org * * Abraxas on IRC * * http://members.iquest.net/~dcasey * * Charter Associate member, Team SETI * * Warpstock 99 in Atlanta http://www.warpstock.org * ************************************************************** * E-Mail (subject: Req. PGP Key) for Public Key * ************************************************************** --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: V.O.I.C.E., Indianapolis, IN (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: t_am@gmx.de 07-Nov-99 21:52:08 To: All 07-Nov-99 20:07:02 Subj: Re: PROFILE.BAT for Windows NT Client From: t_am@gmx.de (Timo Maier) Hi Charles! >I have problems with some of out implementations of NT where drives have >to be mapped manually at every reboot but I have no idea how to do a >batch file for the job. you can put a "net use driveletter: alias" in the profile.bat/.cmd or assign a drive by d&d an alias over a user/group. TAM -- OS/2 Warp4, Ducati 750SS '92 http://www.privat.toplink.de/homepages/thunder Remove "_" for eMail reply --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Freiburg/Germany (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca 08-Nov-99 01:28:21 To: All 08-Nov-99 03:40:16 Subj: Re: Warp's MPTS Config with NT4 Peer From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) On Sun, 7 Nov 1999 22:12:34, mmellin@home.com (Mark Mellin) wrote: > I'm a bit confused between the adapters/slots/logical/physical > and the necessary protocols for connecting a gateway/local lan. > > The "network" (HA!!), is a home built spiders nest of wires > as follows: > > OS/2 Peer (FP-8412) Gateway: > ---------------------------------------------- > ---------------------------------------------- > Set up with the hostname from my ISP, and the > computer name as "NAME-1" in domain "WARPNET", > with MPTS (FP-8620) configured for: > > 2 x NICs (RTL8139, and SMC1211TX) with; > > ** - SMC1211TX, 10BaseT from cable modem. > 0 - IBM OS/2 NETBIOS > 0 - IBM TCP/IP > > ** - RTL8139, 100BaseT to hub. > 2 - IBM OS/2 NETBIOS over TCP/IP > 1 - IBM OS/2 NETBIOS > 1 - IBM TCP/IP > > Questions: > ---------- > Do I have the protocols installed correctly ? Sort of > Do I really need NetBios on the SMC NIC ? No, this protocol is not used for anything when it is bound to this NIC or at least it shouldn't. > Do I need NetBios on the RTL NIC, for NT, Yes, if you have NT using NETBIOS/NETBEUI rather than NETBIOS/TCPIP (which is NT's default) > perhaps just for other Peer OS2 machines ? The other Peer OS/2 machines will use it if they are configured with OS/2 NETBIOS > Is the RTL NIC's logical adapter numbers correct > and in the right order ? They will change if you remove the NETBIOS from the SMC NIC > Can/should there be a domain name for a peer > gateway ? There are actually two "domain" names involved one is for the TCP/IP internet access which is your ISP's domain name. The other "WARPNET" is for the file sharing NETBIOS domain. The two "domains" are totally separate. > Should the computer name be differerent from the > local machine name assigned by my ISP ? > I don't think it makes any difference if you are using static IP assignments. DHCP (dynamic IP) would be different. > > TCP/IP 4.1, FP-1001 is configured as: > --------------------------------------------------- > Lan-0: - Static IP/subnet from cable modem ISP > *working* > Lan-1: - My local IP/subnet > (192.168.1.1 & 255.255.255.0) > *not working* > LoopBack: - 127.0.0.0 with no subnet > Routing: - "Default", ISP's router, metric=1 > - IP Forwarding is on > I have no idea what the "net" & "host" > or "default routes" are... > Host Names: - Host & local domain from/for ISP > - Names servers from/for ISP > > Questions: > ---------- > None really - other than the difference between the "default", > "net" and "host" are (the on-line help did precious little to > explain this) The "default" route is used to pass along packets for IP addresses that are not otherwise named in one of the other "route" statments. This should be set to your ISP's "gateway" or "router" address. The "net" route is used to pass along packets addressed to the sub-net named in the route statement The "net " route for your 192.168.1 sub-net should be 192.168.1.1 This is usually set up automatically. Otherwise your TCPIP setup notebook should contain one. This will route the 192.168.1.X packets to the correct NIC. > > > The other half is NT4 (and I suspect is the problem)... > > NT4 Client (SP5) peer: > ---------------------------------------------- > ---------------------------------------------- > Configured as "NAME-2" of "WARPNET", with: > 1 x NICs (RTL8139) with; > > ** - RTL8139, 100BaseT from hub. > NetBEUI Protocol > TCP/IP Protocol > > Computer Name is "NAME-2" > Workgroup is "WARPNET" > Static IP is 192.168.1.2 > Subnet is 255.255.255.0 > Default Gateway is 192.168.1.1 > *all* of the DNS info is as assigned by > my ISP. > IP forwarding is on. > > Questions: > ---------- > Should the workgroup be "WARPNET" ? Yes, any machines on the local LAN should all have the same netbios "DOMAIN" name. This is the one used for the "file sharing" workgroup. > Should the Default Gateway be my gateway, and > not the ISP's gateway ? Yes, it should be your "gateway" 192.168.1.1 > Should IP forwarding be on for a peer machine ? No > Should all of the DNS entries on a peer be set > to/for the provider ? > Yes > Why am I setting up a network in my home ?? It's a good way to develop a craving for TWO cold beers > Where can I find a BIG cold beer > In the 'fridge second shelf down, on the right..... > > Thanks in advance for *any* help with this lunacy !! On the NT machine what protocols do you have "installed", "turned on" or whatever they call it in the "Network" icon? You need TCP/IP which you must have or you could not set up the parameters. For "file and print sharing" you do not need the NETBIOS over TCP/IP you could just use NETBEUI which is faster on a small LAN and is less likely to lead to inadvertant sharing of stuff that may be visible to the entire internet. Questions to you.... Can you PING the NT machines IP address from the gateway machine? Can you PING the gateway machine from the NT machine? Do you have some sort of NAT gateway software installed like Injoys Gateway http://www.fx.dk ? You will need this to translate the 192.168.X.X addresses to allow the other machines to access the internet. WARNING - only install it after you have the base network working between the local machines. The 192.168.X.X addresses will not be passed along as they are "private" network IP addresses and the internet routers will drop them. Lorne Sunley --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: MBnet Networking Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: wrarick@aol.com 08-Nov-99 01:44:04 To: All 08-Nov-99 03:40:16 Subj: OS/2 Warp Ver 3 Networking Question From: wrarick@aol.com (WRarick) I currently own an IBM ps/2 Model 70 computer running OS/2 Warp Version 3 (Blue Spine). I would like to incorporate it into my home network (Win98 Workgroup) if possible. This is just a hobby machine so I am not looking for anything overly elaborate. Is there a Microsoft client for OS/2 out there? Will warp connect contain what I need? I am very familiar with Windows networking but have no Idea when it comes to OS/2. Any help wouild be appreciated. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: AOL http://www.aol.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca 08-Nov-99 04:24:08 To: All 08-Nov-99 03:40:17 Subj: Re: OS/2 Warp Ver 3 Networking Question From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) On Mon, 8 Nov 1999 01:44:09, wrarick@aol.com (WRarick) wrote: > I currently own an IBM ps/2 Model 70 computer running OS/2 Warp Version 3 (Blue > Spine). I would like to incorporate it into my home network (Win98 Workgroup) > if possible. This is just a hobby machine so I am not looking for anything > overly elaborate. Is there a Microsoft client for OS/2 out there? Will warp > connect contain what I need? I am very familiar with Windows networking but > have no Idea when it comes to OS/2. Any help wouild be appreciated. > Warp Connect will have what you need. Just make sure you apply the fixpacks and other goodies so your system will be Y2K compliant. Lorne Sunley --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: MBnet Networking Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: sma.spam-not@rtd.com 08-Nov-99 05:37:11 To: All 08-Nov-99 03:40:17 Subj: Re: !PCTCP 1.3.1 for OS/2 From: James Moe Ivan Klimenko wrote: > > Hi ! > > I'm _must_ use PCTCP 1.3.1 for OS/2 by FTP Software (in some reason). > How i can tell this stack use PAP/CHAP autorization ? > After dial and get `CONNECT ...` string COMSRPT.EXE somthing wait. > PCTCP for os/2 is an old product. I do not know if it is possible to have it do authentication. Can you direct PCTCP to use a different dialer? Or maybe you could simply start another dialer like DOIP or IN-joy and have PCTCP believe it is connected to the Internet? -- sma at rtd dot com Remove ".spam-not" for email --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Sohnen-Moe Associates, Inc (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: mgreene@exis.net 08-Nov-99 00:50:25 To: All 08-Nov-99 03:40:17 Subj: IMAPD?????? From: "Michael K Greene" I have been looking for a IMAP server (imapd) for Warp. I did find: http://www.washington.edu/imap/ I downloaded the file, which included most OSs (even Amiga). It did have some OS/2 files, but on reading the docs it says: OS2 BUILD NOTES The OS2 port is incomplete. There are no plans to continue work on it. Is there no other source for IMAPD on OS/2? Michael K Greene | OS/2 Warp / Linux / Win95-311 --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Exis Net Inc (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca 08-Nov-99 06:10:10 To: All 08-Nov-99 03:40:17 Subj: Re: IMAPD?????? From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) On Mon, 8 Nov 1999 05:50:51, "Michael K Greene" wrote: > I have been looking for a IMAP server (imapd) for Warp. I did find: > > http://www.washington.edu/imap/ > > I downloaded the file, which included most OSs (even Amiga). It did have some > OS/2 files, but on reading the docs it says: > > OS2 BUILD NOTES > The OS2 port is incomplete. There are no plans to continue work on it. > > Is there no other source for IMAPD on OS/2? > The Lotus Domino Mail server has an IMAP server capability. You have to pay for it though. You can download a trial version from http://www.lotus.com Lorne Sunley --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: MBnet Networking Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: mgreene@exis.net 08-Nov-99 01:45:22 To: All 08-Nov-99 03:40:17 Subj: Re: IMAPD?????? From: "Michael K Greene" On Mon, 08 Nov 1999 06:10:21 GMT, Lorne Sunley wrote: Lorne, How did I know that you would reply? I tried the LOTUS path. As a side bar, I did try Samba - never really got it working. In the end I swapped back to Warp Server - much easier to use with Warp clients and Windows. Anyway, IMAP... I just want a lite version. It will run on a 486, Lotus is out. The 486 is running the Lan, Apache, and REXC. It's just a play system I use at home. I want to collect mail from 3 servers, toss it to folders, and connect with my everyday computer via IMAP. I figured the best place to start was to get a IMAPD running. This is when I came on the: OS2 BUILD NOTES The OS2 port is incomplete. There are no plans to continue work on it. I was confused because I have yet to find a IMAP server for WARP and then run across this. >On Mon, 8 Nov 1999 05:50:51, "Michael K Greene" >wrote: > >> I have been looking for a IMAP server (imapd) for Warp. I did find: >> >> http://www.washington.edu/imap/ >> >> I downloaded the file, which included most OSs (even Amiga). It did have some >> OS/2 files, but on reading the docs it says: >> >> OS2 BUILD NOTES >> The OS2 port is incomplete. There are no plans to continue work on it. >> >> Is there no other source for IMAPD on OS/2? >> > >The Lotus Domino Mail server has an IMAP server >capability. You have to pay for it though. > >You can download a trial version from http://www.lotus.com > >Lorne Sunley > Michael K Greene | OS/2 Warp / Linux / Win95-311 --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Exis Net Inc (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca 08-Nov-99 07:07:05 To: All 08-Nov-99 03:40:17 Subj: Re: IMAPD?????? From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) I looked the IMAPD from U of Washington quite a while ago. When I asked about the progress of the OS/2 port at that time they were doing very little with it then (about 3 years ago) as they did not have any OS/2 machines to do the work on. Someone (I can't remember who) replied to my E-Mail and said that the OS/2 port would be very close to the Windows NT one and with very little work the NT port (once completed - it was not at the time I talked to them) could be converted to OS/2 as the requirements were much the same. I never got around to doing anything with it as my client at the time was perfectly happy using a POP3 daemon to do their mail handling on OS/2. Maybe it would be easy to complete it they have the Windows NT port completed. Lorne Sunley On Mon, 8 Nov 1999 06:45:45, "Michael K Greene" wrote: > On Mon, 08 Nov 1999 06:10:21 GMT, Lorne Sunley wrote: > > Lorne, > > How did I know that you would reply? I tried the LOTUS path. > > As a side bar, I did try Samba - never really got it working. In the end I > swapped back to Warp Server - much easier to use with Warp clients and > Windows. > > Anyway, IMAP... I just want a lite version. It will run on a 486, Lotus is > out. The 486 is running the Lan, Apache, and REXC. It's just a play system I > use at home. I want to collect mail from 3 servers, toss it to folders, and > connect with my everyday computer via IMAP. I figured the best place to start > was to get a IMAPD running. This is when I came on the: > > OS2 BUILD NOTES > The OS2 port is incomplete. There are no plans to continue work on it. > > I was confused because I have yet to find a IMAP server for WARP and then run > across this. > > >On Mon, 8 Nov 1999 05:50:51, "Michael K Greene" > >wrote: > > > >> I have been looking for a IMAP server (imapd) for Warp. I did find: > >> > >> http://www.washington.edu/imap/ > >> > >> I downloaded the file, which included most OSs (even Amiga). It did have some > >> OS/2 files, but on reading the docs it says: > >> > >> OS2 BUILD NOTES > >> The OS2 port is incomplete. There are no plans to continue work on it. > >> > >> Is there no other source for IMAPD on OS/2? > >> > > > >The Lotus Domino Mail server has an IMAP server > >capability. You have to pay for it though. > > > >You can download a trial version from http://www.lotus.com > > > >Lorne Sunley > > > > Michael K Greene | OS/2 Warp / Linux / Win95-311 > > > --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: MBnet Networking Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: mmellin@home.com 08-Nov-99 09:38:18 To: All 08-Nov-99 10:31:26 Subj: Re: Warp's MPTS Config with NT4 Peer From: mmellin@home.com (Mark Mellin) On Mon, 8 Nov 1999 01:28:42, lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) wrote: > > Do I need NetBios on the RTL NIC, for NT, > > Yes, if you have NT using NETBIOS/NETBEUI rather > than NETBIOS/TCPIP (which is NT's default) Is one prefered over the other ? > > perhaps just for other Peer OS2 machines ? > > The other Peer OS/2 machines will use it if they > are configured with OS/2 NETBIOS Is NetBIOS more stable or faster ? > > Can/should there be a domain name for a peer > > gateway ? > > There are actually two "domain" names involved > one is for the TCP/IP internet access which is > your ISP's domain name. The other "WARPNET" > is for the file sharing NETBIOS domain. > > The two "domains" are totally separate. I think they are, OS/2's install/config/access methodology makes the "domain" name a bit confusing. > > Why am I setting up a network in my home ?? > It's a good way to develop a craving for TWO cold beers > > Where can I find a BIG cold beer > In the 'fridge second shelf down, on the right..... Yea - well I just went and checked - it's all gone musta finished it all off while I was installing peer and hacking up my config.sys !! > On the NT machine what protocols do you > have "installed", "turned on" or whatever they > call it in the "Network" icon? You need TCP/IP > which you must have or you could not set up > the parameters. TCPIP and NetBEUI. > For "file and print sharing" you do not need the > NETBIOS over TCP/IP you could just > use NETBEUI which is faster on a small LAN > and is less likely to lead to inadvertant sharing > of stuff that may be visible to the entire internet. I didn't even see NetBios over TCPIP as an installable option under WinNT's network protocals > Questions to you.... > > Can you PING the NT machines IP address > from the gateway machine? Yep - but I couldn't when I sent this post !!! > Can you PING the gateway machine from the > NT machine? Aye Capt... > Do you have some sort of NAT gateway software > installed like Injoys Gateway http://www.fx.dk ? Right on the money, I bought IJFire about a month ago. Well, everything is up and running, geez - I cant belive it's finished - no can I understand why it was so difficult. First it was the NetBIOS/BEUI stuffs. NT could see Warp's shares, but Warp couldn't see NT's. Flipped a bit in NT's registry (lmannounce). Then found that MPTN screws up IBMLAN.INI, forgetting my second adapter configs "net1=NETBEUI$,0,LM10,100,150,14", which has to be manually entered in, as did both the "wrknets = NET1,NET2" and "srvnets = NET1,NET2". Reinstalled the InJoyFirewall/Gateway - forgetting that I'd been playing with the filters - so even though everything was working fine I couldn't get ping a DNS resolveable IP... All in all - one heck of Sunday !! - I've learned much more than I intended !! These newsgroups kill me - when I think of the money we/I spend on tech-support (who aren't in on Sunday), which just buys us their "ball's-back-in-your-court" attitude, as they ineptly provide inaccurate, information with a non-cholant approach to solving a problem... then I poke around Deja, or just drop a post to comp.os... Anyhoo... Much thanks again for the speedy response, it pointed me in the right direction, confirming, and correcting my understanding (or mis-understandings !!). Mark Mellin --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: @Home Network (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: ben.garston@altavista.net 08-Nov-99 19:21:13 To: All 08-Nov-99 20:06:28 Subj: bridges & gateways From: Ben Garston Oh knowledgeable and great ones I am a lonely Computer Science Student lost in the depths of the information super highway trying to find out about network ?bridges? and ?gateways?. I specifically require manufactures of such products, URL?s of the manufactures web sites, model numbers and prices in pound sterling. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: University of Wolverhampton (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: IOFFVS@DropThis.PoBox.COM 09-Nov-99 00:55:20 To: All 08-Nov-99 21:19:01 Subj: Bootable disk with Networking and Peer From: IOFFVS@DropThis.PoBox.COM (Frank V. Schubert) I am wondering if anyone can assist me. I have a LAN here that consists of a Server and several workstations. I use BA/2 for my backup to tape. BA/2 runs on the Server and backs up the server and all workstations to the tape drive on the Server. My problem is if one of the workstations fails, I will need to be able to boot something from diskette that will connect to the LAN so that I can run BA/2 to restore the drives to the workstation. Now, I have seen several posts that indicate I should run ThinLaps to put networking onto the diskettes. However, this doesn't seem to me to be enough. It occurs to me that I would actually need to have PEER installed. To that end, I have used BOOTOS2 to build a set of bootable disks that contain networking. I have added a 3rd diskette that contains the LAN Requestor code, I think. However, when after booting up and getting the OS/2 prompt, I then issue the NET START REQUESTER and this fails with a message indicating that a file could not be found. The problem is that it does not identify what file. Am I going about this the wrong way? I am trying to basically setup a bootable set of diskettes that will bring a workstation up in a mode that allows it to make it's hard drives accessible to the server over the network. That way, I can just crank up BA/2 and have him restores files directly to the hard drives. Maybe I need to do something else? Any thoughts? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- @ Triangle Systems INC. / IOF Tech Support - Frank V. Schubert @ @ IOF Web page: ptth://com.triangle-systems.www(reversed)@ ---------------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Triangle Systems, Inc (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: NOSPAM_R.Ihle@S-t.De 09-Nov-99 13:13:18 To: All 09-Nov-99 13:50:28 Subj: Re: Netware NDS From: NOSPAM_R.Ihle@S-t.De (Ruediger Ihle) On Mon, 8 Nov 1999 16:31:28, "Charles Turner" wrote: > However, I can't figure out how to use the print queues in NDS mode. > Apparently > (as I have my system configured at the moment anyway) everything I try to > setup a printer, eg. using the network printer template, tries to access the > printer > using bindery mode, not NDS mode. The network printer templates don't work with NDS queues. Only bindery mode is supported. We use captured local printers instead. -- Ruediger "Rudi" Ihle [S&T Systemtechnik GmbH, Germany] http://www.s-t.de Please remove all characters left of the "R" in my email address --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: S&T (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: No.Spam@null.org 08-Nov-99 10:31:14 To: All 09-Nov-99 14:42:23 Subj: Netware NDS From: "Charles Turner" On Fri, 05 Nov 1999 05:09:51 GMT, Lorne Sunley wrote: >Install the Novell Network Client. >This client works with Novell servers up to 4.12. My system is Warp4 with FP12 and the Netware clos2n1.exe client package. I can login to my Netware 4.11 NDS server and access my disk space there. However, I can't figure out how to use the print queues in NDS mode. Apparently (as I have my system configured at the moment anyway) everything I try to setup a printer, eg. using the network printer template, tries to access the printer using bindery mode, not NDS mode. Could someone point me in the proper direction to setup for NDS printer access. Thanks. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: University of Missouri - Columbia (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk 09-Nov-99 18:47:01 To: All 09-Nov-99 16:00:00 Subj: Re: Bootable disk with Networking and Peer From: jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John Poltorak) In <807rec$bo2$1@nntp1.atl.mindspring.net>, IOFFVS@DropThis.PoBox.COM (Frank V. Schubert) writes: >I am wondering if anyone can assist me. I have a LAN here that consists >of a Server and several workstations. I use BA/2 for my backup to tape. >BA/2 runs on the Server and backs up the server and all workstations to >the tape drive on the Server. > >My problem is if one of the workstations fails, I will need to be able >to boot something from diskette that will connect to the LAN so that I >can run BA/2 to restore the drives to the workstation. > >Now, I have seen several posts that indicate I should run ThinLaps to >put networking onto the diskettes. However, this doesn't seem to me to >be enough. It occurs to me that I would actually need to have PEER >installed. > >To that end, I have used BOOTOS2 to build a set of bootable disks that >contain networking. I have added a 3rd diskette that contains the LAN >Requestor code, I think. > >However, when after booting up and getting the OS/2 prompt, I then issue >the NET START REQUESTER and this fails with a message indicating that a >file could not be found. The problem is that it does not identify what >file. > >Am I going about this the wrong way? I am trying to basically setup a >bootable set of diskettes that will bring a workstation up in a mode that >allows it to make it's hard drives accessible to the server over the >network. That way, I can just crank up BA/2 and have him restores files >directly to the hard drives. > >Maybe I need to do something else? Any thoughts? The easiest way of connecting to your server is use thinlaps to get the necessary network drivers installed and protocol.ini configured. In addition you need to configure SRVIFS. At the server you only need to start SERVICE, and possible edit SERVICE.INI to reflect your environment. You don't need a re-boot for this to work. On the client you need two statements in CONFIG.SYS DEVICE=A:\SRVIFS.SYS IFS=A:\SRVIFSC.IFS COMPUTERNAME Once you have booted up you can map drives using:- srvattch x: servername There's a utility, THINIFS, (I think) which will setup the client for you. >-- >---------------------------------------------------------------- >@ Triangle Systems INC. / IOF Tech Support - Frank V. Schubert @ >@ IOF Web page: ptth://com.triangle-systems.www(reversed)@ >---------------------------------------------------------------- > -- John --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Legend Internet Ltd (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: giotex@vislink.it 10-Nov-99 00:54:29 To: All 09-Nov-99 21:17:16 Subj: TCP/IP with NE2000 with Warp 3 ? From: giotex@vislink.it (gioTex) I have resumed an old warp 3 CD bought in 1995, and I'd like to use it as telnet, ftp and www client into a little intranet but ... there is not any support for NE2000 boards nor for the TCP/IP protocol. I've been away from OS/2 from middle 1996, so I'm not up to date with new stuffs: can someone tell me in few word how can I can get a Warp 3 system working into a little Ethernet lan using NE2000 clone ISA/PCI card ? Thanx a lot. ------------------------ Lunga vita e prosperita' giotex@vislink.it --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: I.Net S.p.A. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca 10-Nov-99 02:33:21 To: All 10-Nov-99 05:30:18 Subj: Re: TCP/IP with NE2000 with Warp 3 ? From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) On Wed, 10 Nov 1999 00:54:59, giotex@vislink.it (gioTex) wrote: > I have resumed an old warp 3 CD bought in 1995, and I'd like to use it > as telnet, ftp and www client into a little intranet but ... there is > not any support for NE2000 boards nor for the TCP/IP protocol. > > I've been away from OS/2 from middle 1996, so I'm not up to date with > new stuffs: > > can someone tell me in few word how can I can get a Warp 3 system > working into a little Ethernet lan using NE2000 clone ISA/PCI card ? > You need Warp 3 Connect, not plain Warp 3 to obtain the LAN support for TCP/IP. Plain Warp 3 only supports the dial-up TCP/IP connections using a partial stack. Lorne Sunley --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: MBnet Networking Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rowe001@ibm.net 10-Nov-99 01:14:05 To: All 10-Nov-99 05:30:18 Subj: OS/2 Warp Server as Internet Gateway From: "Duncan S. Rowe" I have an OS/2 Warp Server as an Internet Gateway thanks to InJoy 2.3 and Advantis Dial up. This will change.... I need to move this server onto a larger LAN where fast Internet access is available 24/7 So... How can this server act as an Internet Gateway for my small local LAN connected to the larger LAN I can put NICs in one (for each LAN) and bind an IP to each...what else needs to be done... Any tips would be appreciated cheers --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: edjaffe@phoenixsoftware.com 10-Nov-99 01:13:12 To: All 10-Nov-99 10:29:14 Subj: Re: OS/2 Warp Server as Internet Gateway From: Edward Jaffe "Duncan S. Rowe" wrote: > > I can put NICs in one (for each LAN) and bind an IP to each...what else > needs to be done... You'll need to ensure IP Forwarding is enabled. Set up the correct routes (or use OROUTED) and you should be in business. -- | Edward E. Jaffe | Voice: (310) 338-0400 x318 | | Mgr., Research & Development | Fax: (310) 338-0801 | | Phoenix Software International | edjaffe@phoenixsoftware.com | | 5200 W. Century Blvd., Suite 800 | USS24J24 at IBMMAIL | | Los Angeles, CA 90045 | http://www.phoenixsoftware.com | --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Phoenix Software International (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jknott@ibm.net 09-Nov-99 18:21:09 To: All 10-Nov-99 10:29:14 Subj: Re: WarpServer & Dos client From: jknott@ibm.net (James Knott) Replied via e-mail. In article , kenames@earthlink.net wrote: >All fine and well but how does DLS or LANMAN client get installed on a >floppy for boot? I have been trying here also with no success. Maybe >you could post the disk contents needed and whatever other info is >needed to build such a disk. Thanks > >Ken > >On Wed, 3 Nov 1999 10:46:01, jknott@ibm.net (James Knott) wrote: > >> In article , >> "Clemens Pipek" wrote: >> >Hi all, >> > >> >i need a dos bootdisk with a WS-Dos client (command line). All what i >> >like to is to boot, login to WS and after this i start DriveImage from >> >PowerQuest. We need this for backup and/or cloning HDD's. >> > >> >1) ist this possible >> >2) what do i need >> >3) how to bring the client to FDD >> >> At work, we do the same using PC-DOS. >> You'll need the IBM DOS LAN Services or equivalent from MS, to build a >> bootable diskette capable of connecting to the server. IBM DLS should >> be on the Warp Server or its CD. >> >> Place all the Drive Image stuff on a server, so that you don't have to >> keep it on the floppies. Then create a batch file that logs you on to >> the server and includes the PQDI subdirectory in the path. >> >> >> -- >> E-mail jknott@ca.ibm.com >> _________________________________________________________________________ >> The above opinions are my own and not those of ISM Corp., a subsidiary of >> IBM Canada Ltd. > > > -- E-mail jknott@ca.ibm.com _________________________________________________________________________ The above opinions are my own and not those of ISM Corp., a subsidiary of IBM Canada Ltd. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: wwinzigNOwwSPAM@hotmail.com.invalid 10-Nov-99 03:43:20 To: All 10-Nov-99 10:29:14 Subj: Warp losing Netware drive mappings. Why? From: Willi Winzig Hi We have a Warp machine with numerous mappings on Novell servers. After some time it starts losing those mappings one by one. I suspect some problem with the settings for IPX/SPX in net.cfg Where can I find some recommendations for the settings therein? Running Netware Client V2.12 on Warp 4 and Intranetware on the server. Any hints greatly appreciated Regards Willi * Sent from Novell Discussion Forums http://novell.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: http://www.remarq.com: The World's Usenet/Discuss (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: IOFFVS@DropThis.PoBox.COM 10-Nov-99 22:01:08 To: All 10-Nov-99 20:03:07 Subj: Re: Bootable disk with Networking and Peer From: IOFFVS@DropThis.PoBox.COM (Frank V. Schubert) In message <3829A93F.3941CC8C@ibm.net> - Meinolf Sondermann writes: :> :>Hello Frank, :> :>"Frank V. Schubert" wrote: :>> :>> In message <38286c27.0@katana.legend.co.uk> - jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John :>> Poltorak) writes: :>> :> :> :>[....] :> :>> :>In addition you need to configure SRVIFS. At the server you only need to :>> :>start SERVICE, and possible edit SERVICE.INI to reflect your environment. :>> :>You don't need a re-boot for this to work. :>> :> :>> :>On the client you need two statements in CONFIG.SYS :>> :> :>> :>DEVICE=A:\SRVIFS.SYS :>> :>IFS=A:\SRVIFSC.IFS COMPUTERNAME :>> :> :>> :>Once you have booted up you can map drives using:- :>> :> :>> :>srvattch x: servername :>> :> :>> :>There's a utility, THINIFS, (I think) which will setup the client for you. :>> :> :> :>[....] :> :>> Thanks John. That sort of did the trick. What I really needed was a way to :>> share the workstation drives with the server. That way, I could crank up BA/2 :>> and just have him restore directly to the workstation drives. However, this :>> at least gives me a way out. :> :>SERVICE.EXE can as well be run from a floppy . You would then need the mentioned :>DEVICE and IFS statements at your server machine. :>With this changing the roles, you can directly restore to your workstations drives. :> :>Bye/2 :>Meinolf :> Yes, I thought of that and tried it quickly, but had no success. The SERVICE command on the workstation would not do anything. No message, just returned to the command prompt. Have you actually tried this? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- @ Triangle Systems INC. / IOF Tech Support - Frank V. Schubert @ @ IOF Web page: ptth://com.triangle-systems.www(reversed)@ ---------------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Triangle Systems, Inc (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: mgreene@exis.net 10-Nov-99 18:31:17 To: All 10-Nov-99 21:35:27 Subj: InJoy Route From: "Michael K Greene" I am seeing some problems I believe???? A nestat -r after connection shows the route added from my connection to my ISP. When I disconnect the route is still present. I dial and disconnect again- the list just keeps growing. However netstat -a shows the ppp route removed after disconnect. Is this right? Michael K Greene | OS/2 Warp / Linux / Win95-311 --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Exis Net Inc (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: merlins@ibm.net 10-Nov-99 18:19:29 To: All 10-Nov-99 23:25:13 Subj: Re: Bootable disk with Networking and Peer From: Meinolf Sondermann Hello Frank, "Frank V. Schubert" wrote: > > In message <38286c27.0@katana.legend.co.uk> - jpolt@bradnet.legend.co.uk (John > Poltorak) writes: > :> [....] > :>In addition you need to configure SRVIFS. At the server you only need to > :>start SERVICE, and possible edit SERVICE.INI to reflect your environment. > :>You don't need a re-boot for this to work. > :> > :>On the client you need two statements in CONFIG.SYS > :> > :>DEVICE=A:\SRVIFS.SYS > :>IFS=A:\SRVIFSC.IFS COMPUTERNAME > :> > :>Once you have booted up you can map drives using:- > :> > :>srvattch x: servername > :> > :>There's a utility, THINIFS, (I think) which will setup the client for you. > :> [....] > Thanks John. That sort of did the trick. What I really needed was a way to > share the workstation drives with the server. That way, I could crank up BA/2 > and just have him restore directly to the workstation drives. However, this > at least gives me a way out. SERVICE.EXE can as well be run from a floppy . You would then need the mentioned DEVICE and IFS statements at your server machine. With this changing the roles, you can directly restore to your workstations drives. Bye/2 Meinolf --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: tulloch@modempool.com 10-Nov-99 22:53:10 To: All 11-Nov-99 03:54:25 Subj: VPN From: Daniel Tulloch Anyone know of a VPN client for OS/2 compatible or equivalent to CheckPoint's VPN client? Thanks, Dan --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: A poorly-installed InterNetNews site (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: softpointNOJUNKMAIL@surveypoint.com 11-Nov-99 03:17:14 To: All 11-Nov-99 03:54:25 Subj: Re: WarpServer & Dos client From: softpointNOJUNKMAIL@surveypoint.com (Paul Saletan) Assuming you have a FAT partition available on the local hard drive: 1. Download the free LANMAN/DOS client from Microsoft -- the one that fits on 2 diskettes. The version I have is 3.0, dated 5/96. 2. Run SETUP.EXE. Install it to a hard drive directory (C:\LANMAN in this example) on a partition that is visible when you boot DOS. 3. Ensure that it's working. You need the line DEVICE=C:\LANMAN\IFSHLP.SYS in your DOS CONFIG.SYS. Then run "NET START" and see if you you can NET VIEW \\OTHERMACHINE on your LAN. 4. Now mimic this setup on your boot diskette with just the IFSHLP.SYS file (if you want to run NET START from the hard disk) or with all the files you've installed except maybe SETUP.EXE (if you want to run everything from floppy). If you want to copy all the files from the directory onto floppy, be sure to change the drive letter references in SYSTEM.INI. kenames@earthlink.net wrote: >All fine and well but how does DLS or LANMAN client get installed on a >floppy for boot? I have been trying here also with no success. Maybe >you could post the disk contents needed and whatever other info is >needed to build such a disk. Thanks > >Ken > >On Wed, 3 Nov 1999 10:46:01, jknott@ibm.net (James Knott) wrote: > >> In article , >> "Clemens Pipek" wrote: >> >Hi all, >> > >> >i need a dos bootdisk with a WS-Dos client (command line). All what i >> >like to is to boot, login to WS and after this i start DriveImage from >> >PowerQuest. We need this for backup and/or cloning HDD's. >> > >> >1) ist this possible >> >2) what do i need >> >3) how to bring the client to FDD >> >> At work, we do the same using PC-DOS. >> You'll need the IBM DOS LAN Services or equivalent from MS, to build a >> bootable diskette capable of connecting to the server. IBM DLS should >> be on the Warp Server or its CD. >> >> Place all the Drive Image stuff on a server, so that you don't have to >> keep it on the floppies. Then create a batch file that logs you on to >> the server and includes the PQDI subdirectory in the path. >> >> >> -- >> E-mail jknott@ca.ibm.com >> _________________________________________________________________________ >> The above opinions are my own and not those of ISM Corp., a subsidiary of >> IBM Canada Ltd. > > // Paul Saletan ** Please remove NOJUNKMAIL from address when replying --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: EarthLink Network, Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: merlins@ibm.net 11-Nov-99 07:52:29 To: All 11-Nov-99 10:44:23 Subj: Re: Bootable disk with Networking and Peer From: Meinolf Sondermann Hello Frank, "Frank V. Schubert" wrote: > [....] > > Yes, I thought of that and tried it quickly, but had no success. The > SERVICE command on the workstation would not do anything. No message, > just returned to the command prompt. > > Have you actually tried this? > Yes, I did so some two years ago at my former employer to clone one laptop to another. One would would boot from floppies and then run service.exe. The other would boot from the same set of floppies and then call srvattch.exe. In a second case, I started service.exe as a detached process on both machines. In this case I could run srvattch.exe as well an both machines and then did the xcopy for one partition from one box and the second partition from the other. This decreased processing time. The floppies I used were created as bootdisks for remote installation and then customized to not call any installation automatically. To run service.exe you need the file service.ini customized to your case. AFAIR, if service.exe doesn't find a valid ini file, it quits without any message. If you rename service.exe to some other name , lets say smallsrv.exe , then you have to rename service.ini to smallsrv.ini as well. This allowed me to run. in this case 4, different CID servers on the same box . > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > @ Triangle Systems INC. / IOF Tech Support - Frank V. Schubert @ > @ IOF Web page: ptth://com.triangle-systems.www(reversed)@ > ---------------------------------------------------------------- Q: Why do you advertise your website in this form ? Hiding e-mail addresses is ok, but website addresses ... ? No complaint, just a hint. Bye/2 Meinolf --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: willy@magma.ca.support-cauce-now 11-Nov-99 20:33:29 To: All 11-Nov-99 19:59:17 Subj: Re: Surevey: Linux VS. Windows NT VS. NetWare From: willy@magma.ca.support-cauce-now (William Wueppelmann) In our last episode (Sat, 06 Nov 1999 22:14:06 GMT), the artist formerly known as Lucius Chiaraviglio said: > Without answering the questions themselves, I will point out the ways >that the following poll is flawed: > >"Soren" wrote: >>Hi, My name is Soren Winslow. I am a student at Heald College. In my basic >>networking class I have been asked to conduct the following Poll. If you are >>a networking guru, geek or professional, would you please answer the >>following survey. Thank You, Soren. soren@webresumes.cx >> >>___________________________________________________________________ >>Which Network Operating System do you prefer? >>A- Linux >>B- Windows NT >>C- NetWare > > You should at least provide a "D- Other" choice here. Several other >network-capable operating systems are in common use, There should be an option D, but it should be "Don't know or no opinion." Perhaps the question should be more clearly-worded as "Which of the following network operating systems do you prefer." Of course, a context in which to prefer them is important too. As much as someone may love NetWare, I'll bet it's a poor e-commerce platform. >>2- Rank the reasons (1-5) why you chose the OS you picked in question #1. >>Compatibility >>Cost >>Security >>Stability >>The logo > > You should at least provide an "Other" choice here, and in addition >you should really add performance, licensing, and availability of source code >as explicit options. The latter two are very important to many users of >Linux, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, and NetBSD. But not necessarily to the surveyor. Maybe he just wants to know which of the five factors people consider most important and isn't interested in other reasons. The question should probably stipulate that you can leave any of those factors out of the ranking if it was not a significant factor. >>3- How did you learn about the OS you picked in question #1. >>A- School >>B- Self-Study >>C- Work > > Considering the rest of this poll, I am surprised you didn't include >categories "D- Advertising" and "E- Provided with the computer". This should have an "other" option because it's an open question; it's quite possible that there could be other reasons than A, B and C, such as the examples provided here, divine revalation, and countless others. There should also be an instruction to select all that apply, since it's possible to learn about an OS from several sources. The options must always cover the full range of possible answers to the question being asked. >>4- Rank (1-3) which OS you believe is most stable. >>Linux >>Windows NT >>NetWare >> >>5- Rank (1-3) which OS you believe is easiest to install. >>Linux >>Windows NT >>NetWare >> >>6- Rank (1-3) which OS you believe has the best security features. >> Linux >>Windows NT >>NetWare >> >>7- Rank (1-3) which OS you believe is easiest to use. >>Linux >>Windows NT >>NetWare > > See my comment above about Question 1. For the last 3(!) of these, a >lot of people would choose MacOS and have some basis for making that choice, >even if not totally correct. There is nothing wrong with only offering these options, though the user should be asked to exclude those for which he or she has no opinion. A better way to ask all of these ranking questions would be: How easy to use are the following operating systems? Easiest Hardest Don't Know/ No 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Opinion Linux X X X X X X X X Windows NT X X X X X X X X NewWare X X X X X X X X It's more clear, allows for more useful responses, and allows the person being questioned to rank each OS against a scale rather than have to compare them against one another, which is harder (well, Windows NT is easier than Linux for X, but harder for Y, and Novell beats them both for Q but is way harder for R and S...) and is likely to result in a more prejudicial view. > >>8- What is your occupation? >> >>9- What is your age? > > These two questions demonstrate why multiple-choice questions are >hard to make non-flawed without consuming an inordinate amount of space >(although age, being linear, could reasonably be divided into bins). It's also a good idea not to ask for a person's exact age, income or other information that might be sensitive and which people might not want to disclose, unless it's critical to the survey to have precise figures. >>10- What is your education? >>A- High School >>B- Some College >>C- College Graduate > > As someone else pointed out, you should also provide other choices. >A handful of people who would have reason to take this poll might not have >finished high school, while others might have gotten post-college degrees. I think that the right way to ask is "Identify the highest level of education attained from the following." Of course, not everyone finishes high school, so there should be a "none of the below" option as well. Any survery should be tested by having a few people take it and comment on it before you send it out. Also, posting a survey to Usenet is problematic because it's hard to know how many potential respondants there are, so you don't know what your return rate is. Also, if you post the survey to comp.os.linux.misc, you can only conclude that your results represent the opinions of people who read comp.os.linux.misc. Posting to several groups means you can say that the opinions may reflect the opinions of people who read those groups only. There's a lot to constructing and delivering a survey. This is all standard graduate studies research methods stuff, but there are probably others here who have done more work on survey methodologies who could contribute more. -- It is pitch black. You are likely to be spammed by a grue. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: The Very Silly Organization (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: Homer.Price@acmecompfarm.com 11-Nov-99 23:08:12 To: All 12-Nov-99 05:21:02 Subj: D-Link NIC DFE-530TX+ From: "Homer Price" Has anyone been successful in getting a D-Link NIC DFE-530TX+ 10/100 Ethernet NIC to work with OS/2 Warp v3 or v4? I can't get it OS/2 to see the card at boot up. The OS/2 *.nif file that came with the card sets the RANGE to 1-16. However, the DIAG.EXE program that comes with the card claims the card is on SLOT 18. D-Link tech support is worthless. All they did was send the same drivers files to me that I already have. All the the MTPS config setting wants is the card's address, which I entered and the slot number. I edited the *.nif file to allow 18. OS/2 v3 or v4 still can't see the card. I'm stumped. hp - * WCE 2.1G1/2241 * Try fixing it with a little duct tape and gum --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Acme Computer Farm (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: dcasey@ibm.net 12-Nov-99 06:34:11 To: All 12-Nov-99 10:28:26 Subj: Re: D-Link NIC DFE-530TX+ From: dcasey@ibm.net (Dan Casey) In article <00009c2ddontspamme@acmecf.com>, "Homer Price" wrote: >Has anyone been successful in getting a D-Link NIC DFE-530TX+ 10/100 >Ethernet NIC to work with OS/2 Warp v3 or v4? I can't get it OS/2 to >see the card at boot up. > Yes, I have several of them working. It takes a bit of doing, though, since the drivers for the DFE530TX won't work with it (different chipset on the card). On the disk that came with the card, there is a NDIS directory, with an OS/2 Subdirectory. In there, you'll find the Lanserver drivers for this card. You need the driver, but not the NIF file (the NIF file will not work). Use the NIF file from the DFE530TX card. Rename the DLKFET.NIF file to RTL8139.NIF Copy the RTSND.OS2 file to the x:\ibmcom\macs directory (where x is the boot drive). Open the RTL8139.NIF file with a plain text editor, and change the references to DLKFET.OS2 to RTSND.OS2 (also the DLKFET$ to RTSND$). Edit your config.sys file, and change the line that loads the driver: DEVICE=x:\IBMCOM\MACS\RTSND.OS2 (again, where x is the boot drive). Reboot, and go into MPTS setup and ADD the card and whatever protocols you wish to use. After you have completed these steps, open the x:\ibmcom\protocol.ini file (with a plain text editor) and make sure that the references are correct (should point to RTL8139.NIF). If you have any problems, e-mail me and I'll send you samples of my files. -- ************************************************************** * Dan Casey * * President * * V.O.I.C.E. (Virtual OS/2 International Consumer Education * * http://www.os2voice.org * * Abraxas on IRC * * http://members.iquest.net/~dcasey * * Charter Associate member, Team SETI * * Warpstock 99 in Atlanta http://www.warpstock.org * ************************************************************** * E-Mail (subject: Req. PGP Key) for Public Key * ************************************************************** --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: V.O.I.C.E., Indianapolis, IN (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: furd@mit.edu 12-Nov-99 07:36:29 To: All 12-Nov-99 10:28:27 Subj: Re: Help - Duplicate names? From: "Frank Field" On Wed, 10 Nov 1999 10:42:47 -0500 (EST), Frank Field wrote: :>I'm running an OS/2 Warp 4 machine as gateway/firewall :>for a home network; it has two network cards, one hooked :>to a DSL modem and one tied into the hub for the :>home network. The TCP/IP gateway works fine, running :>IGATE. The only other machine on the net right now is :>a Win98 machine. This machine sees the OS/2 machine :>OK, and the OS/2 machine can access shared resources on :>the WIN98 machine, but any attempt to access a shared resource :>on the OS/2 machine by the Win98 machine :>(browsing or a NET VIEW command) :>kills the requester on the OS/2 machine, and the log tells :>me that I have a NET 5325 error - two or more identical :>names on the network. :> :>Any ideas? :> I got it resolved; but I have no idea why this worked. The trick? Adding the WORKGROUP name to the LMHOSTS and HOSTS file on the Windows machine, setting it to the gateway machine's local IP address. Why? I have no idea - I saw this mentioned as something to do somewhere and discounted it as nonsense, but the fact that it fixes the problem means that there's more to this group name stuff than *I* currently understand! Oh, well - I have no objection to "burning a witch" - just as long as it fixes the problem!! Frank Field furd@alum.mit.edu O- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: madodel@ptdprolog.net 12-Nov-99 22:11:13 To: All 12-Nov-99 19:52:27 Subj: Re: VPN From: madodel@ptdprolog.net (Mark Dodel) Check out Tunnel/2 at http://www.fx.dk/tunnel/ It is the only VPN I know for OS/2. Mark On Thu, 11 Nov 1999 03:53:21, Daniel Tulloch wrote: -)Anyone know of a VPN client for OS/2 compatible or equivalent to -)CheckPoint's VPN client? -) -)Thanks, -) -)Dan -) //--------------------------------------------------------- // From the Desk of: Mark Dodel, RN, BSN, MBA // Healthcare Computer Consultant // madodel@ptdprolog.net // http://home.ptd.net/~madodel // // For a VOICE in the future of OS/2 // http://www.os2voice.org/index.html //---------------------------------------------------------  --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: PenTeleData http://www.ptd.net (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +============================================================================+