comp.os.os2.bugs (Usenet) Saturday, 23-Oct-1999 to Friday, 29-Oct-1999 +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: goffena@raleigh.ibm.com 22-Oct-99 12:35:07 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:00 Subj: Re: How do I? ESS1688 Sound Card From: "Jim Goffena" On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 01:14:03 GMT, z1002002001@my-deja.com wrote: :>Over in comp.os.os2.bugs some people are complaining about this :>problem. I applied FP10 to an unserviced Warp 4 with ESS1688 drivers, :>and sure enough, the trap 000D happens. Installing drivers from the DD :>pak online doesn't change a thing. :> :>Is there a fixpak that gives Y2K readiness without kakking the audio? :> :>andrew :> fp12 and the latest ess driver on ddpak worked for me regards, Jim --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: IBM Global Services, South, RTP, NC, US (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net 22-Oct-99 13:00:08 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:00 Subj: Re: 32 bit CHKDSK and SCSI HD problem From: raphaelt@netnews.worldnet.att.net (Raphael Tennenbaum) Jim Backus wrote: >IIRC there was a problem with the new CHKDSK that was introduced in Warp >FP5 that could affect SCSI HDs if they were set up in a particular way. >SCSI HDs can be set up with or without an equivalent of LBA. I believe >that if the SCSI HD has been set up not to use "LBA" CHKDSK32 has >problems. I hate to tell you this, Jim, but I'm afraid the problem isn't with chkdsk, but with the stupidity of Adaptec, and I'm sorry to say you're very likely facing a complete reinstall of your data onto all your partitions Unfortunately -- and I'm fuzzy on the details, since it's been a while, and since I have since enabled translation for drives > 1 gig -- the fixpacked version of the AIC drivers will not allow for untranslated drives (else they simply default to them, I cn't recall), hence your filesystem errors. Chkdsking after this installation, and fixing the problems I believe only makes them worse. Still it might be possible but it's worth trying to fix them. You need to revert back to the old Adaptec driver -- it'll work fine under later FPs -- and see if you can rescue your HD. I haven't had any problems since this one with Adaptec but others have, and these -- along with the Incredible Growing Driver Size -- have probably put me off Adaptec forever. -- Ray Tennenbaum '99 YZF-R6 readme@ http://www.ray-field.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: AT&T WorldNet Services (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: mattern@wco.com 22-Oct-99 10:18:19 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:00 Subj: Re: Need Help please!!! From: don mattern lifedata@xxvol.com wrote: > > Bob Germer said: > >> when boot the system display this message "The line Set runwork place > >> in config.sys can t begin" and the system hangs. I have to format the > >> hard disk and install os2 and tcpip, but two weeks later happen another > >> time. > > >When this happens, boot OS/2 from floppy and run chkdsk /f on the Warp > >partition. It sounds like you are not clearing the cache and or swapper.dat > >when shutting down. > > And be sure to do a safe shutdown. > Jim L > Remove XX from address to Email > Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. but non-criminals get guns legally and can become criminals with guns! don mattern --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: mattern construction (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: hamei@pacbell.net 22-Oct-99 18:26:03 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:01 Subj: Re: CHKDSK failing on JFS partition From: hamei@pacbell.net In , mc6530@mclink.it (Yuri Dario) writes: >On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 03:52:37, Mark McClelland >wrote: >>Does SMP work >> well on it? Is it noticably faster than a single processor system? > >noticably faster when you run multiple process that needs a lot of >CPU. Otherwise for standard work it didn't make a great difference: >but before I was running a single P200, so now I have got an >incredible cpu power and I can't compare then properly. > >Bye, > > Yuri Dario > exactly my experience with Warp SMP - no noticeable change when in single-app mode, but multi-tasking is remarkably enhanced. I wouldn't want to ever return to single-cpu mode. SMP works *really* well. -- sig disappeared, sorry --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: SBC Internet Services (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: gj@NOSPAM.ucdavis.edu 22-Oct-99 12:51:12 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:01 Subj: Re: hung up, but good From: "G. J. Mattey" Hans Peter Holm wrote: > Jason Albertson wrote: > > > OS2 system began to hang after almost completely booting to the Shell. > > This is Warp 4 with latest fixpacks. System would get through all the > > drivers and hang with blackscreen and clock. > > The following is from two posts back in 1997. Both suggestions > worked for me in a similar situation. - Watch out for the name > of the desktop, if you're using a non-english version of Warp: > > If you haven't tried it already, adding the line > SET DESKTOP=[drive]:\DESKTOP to config.sys might help. > I had this problem, too. The solution worked for me. Now how do I get rid of all those temporary desktops?? > > And after bootup. try this little script : > change "x" for your boot drive > ************************************************************ > /* Re-assign object id to desktop */ > call rxFuncAdd "SysLoadFuncs", "REXXUTIL", "SysLoadFuncs" > call SysLoadFuncs > > call syssetobjectdata "x:\desktop" , "objectid="; > > ************************************************************ > > after that, you can remove "set desktop=..." G. J. Mattey UC Davis Philosophy Department --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: UC Davis Philosophy Department (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: Spammers@Bite.Me 23-Oct-99 01:23:16 To: All 23-Oct-99 04:42:02 Subj: Re: NS/2 4.61 Address Book From: "Jaime A. Cruz, Jr." -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Thanks, Mike. I actually ended up retyping everything by hand. I'm going to save this information, though, so I don't have to go through this again. Any advice for going the other way (from OS/2 Communicator to Win32 Communicator)? On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 10:49:46 -0400, Michael Kaply wrote: >Trey renaming the exported file to a .4LD rather than .LDI and then importing. > >The file netscape actually writes is an LDIF 4 file, not LDIF. > >This workaround is actually documented in the Netscape Communicator for Windows >Release Notes. > >Mike Kaply >IBM > > >"Jaime A. Cruz, Jr." wrote: > >>I tried exporting my Netscape address book from WinNT (Communicator 4.61) and >>importing the LDIF file into Communicator 4.61 under OS/2. It didn't work. >>Nothing happened. Has anyone else tried this? Did you get it to work? How? >> >>Jaime A. Cruz, Jr. >> > Jaime A. Cruz, Jr. o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o o o o Visit the Nassau Wings Motorcycle Club at: o o http://www.nassauwings.org/ o o A Charter Member of the Motorcycle Web Ring! o o o o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0 OS/2 for non-commercial use Comment: PGP 5.0 for OS/2 Charset: cp850 wj8DBQE4EQAFgvzYfxgMc34RApvYAJ0ZL8/ojBZE/GoTJ8lY55H3imGOGACgjb7x 31+cQ4cnfcfPhjqdR2tdwaw= =x3T/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Nassau Wings Motorcycle Club (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: mr_ace@gmx.de 23-Oct-99 11:23:00 To: All 23-Oct-99 10:32:22 Subj: Re: JAVAI access violation From: mr_ace@gmx.de Hi Jens! >If I go to www.proxymate.com/signup.html, I get a security warning. >After denying or granting, netscape 4.61 crashes with an access >violation in JAVAI.DLL. >I use java 1.1.8 from 28jul99 with option -nojit That's what I get, too, when JAVA is started with netscape 4.04 on some pages... Does anybody have an idea?? Cu! Andi --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: University of Karlsruhe (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: cotroneo@stny.rr.com 23-Oct-99 14:40:11 To: All 23-Oct-99 14:34:07 Subj: winos2 fullscreen - no mouse pointer From: cotroneo@stny.rr.com winos2 seamless works fine on my system, but when I try to bring it up fullscreen, there is no mousepointer. Anyone know how to bring the pointer back? Keith Cotroneo cotroneo@stny.rr.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Time Warner Road Runner - Binghamton NY (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: arjen@removethis.hacom.nl 23-Oct-99 16:40:16 To: All 23-Oct-99 14:34:07 Subj: Re: Workplace shell bugs From: "Arjen Meijer" On 22 Oct 1999 14:51:11 GMT, Rich Walsh wrote: :>This table identifies what happens :>when I drag one or more files and drop them without pressing any keys: :> :>File(s) dragged Desktop other folders :>--------------- -------------- -------------- :>exe's only pgm object pgm object :> :>exe's & other :>files combined move or shadow move :> :>cmd file(s) move or shadow move :> You are right even on fixpack 12. I would add *.com file. They have the behaviour as *.exe files. *.bat behave like *.cmd files. (My compliments for dragtext 3.1.) Arjen --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Sizzen en Dwan (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dun... 23-Oct-99 16:13:10 To: mc6530@mclink.it 23-Oct-99 14:34:07 Subj: Re: CHKDSK failing on JFS partition Message sender: c.k.christacopoulos.REMOVEME@dundee.ac.uk To: Yuri Dario From: Charles Christacopoulos Hi, A bit late but just in case you have not fixed your problem yet. Try booting from the Utility disks and run chkdsk ?: /F from the A: prompt. I had JFS fail (see my other postings) although it was supposingly checked and repaired ... it was not. -- Remove REMOVE_ME to reply. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Charles Christacopoulos, Secretary's Office, University of Dundee, Dundee DD1 4HN, (Scotland) United Kingdom. Tel: +44+(0)1382-344891. Fax: +44+(0)1382-201604. http://somis.ais.dundee.ac.uk/ (runs on OS/2) Scottish Search Maestro http://somis2.ais.dundee.ac.uk/ (runs on OS/2 too) --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: University of Dundee (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu 23-Oct-99 20:11:14 To: All 23-Oct-99 19:54:20 Subj: Re: bad netscape 4.61 GA (Strong encrypt version) cache bug From: tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu Mark Schlegel writes: > The behavior seems to be that if you repeatedly enter some pages then > go one level down then return to the main page, eventually when you > come to the main page, Netscape will start filling the swapper.dat > like crazy. swapper.dat is not managed by Netscape, but rather by the operating system, so I don't know why you're blaming Netscape for the behavior you've observed. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: IFA B111 (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca 23-Oct-99 20:30:01 To: All 23-Oct-99 19:54:20 Subj: Re: bad netscape 4.61 GA (Strong encrypt version) cache bug From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 20:11:28, tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu wrote: > Mark Schlegel writes: > > > The behavior seems to be that if you repeatedly enter some pages then > > go one level down then return to the main page, eventually when you > > come to the main page, Netscape will start filling the swapper.dat > > like crazy. > > swapper.dat is not managed by Netscape, but rather by the operating > system, so I don't know why you're blaming Netscape for the behavior > you've observed. > Probably because an application is able to allocate memory and never release it. In order to provide for this "ever increasing" virtual memory requirement, the OS will allocate more and more space for the SWAPPER.DAT file. This behaviour (the growth of SWAPPER.DAT) is common when applications have bugs that allocate memory but never release it back to the operating system. Lorne Sunley --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: MBnet Networking Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com 23-Oct-99 16:34:17 To: All 23-Oct-99 19:54:20 Subj: Re: bad netscape 4.61 GA (Strong encrypt version) cache bug From: "Mike Ruskai" On 23 Oct 1999 20:11:28 GMT, tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu wrote: >Mark Schlegel writes: > >> The behavior seems to be that if you repeatedly enter some pages then >> go one level down then return to the main page, eventually when you >> come to the main page, Netscape will start filling the swapper.dat >> like crazy. > >swapper.dat is not managed by Netscape, but rather by the operating >system, so I don't know why you're blaming Netscape for the behavior >you've observed. Are you being intentionally daft? What he's saying is that Netscape is allocating memory, and not freeing it, which is exactly what a program that wants to fill up swapper.dat must do. I very much doubt that he's not spent the minimal effort required to make sure that Netscape is what's leaking memory. - Mike Remove 'spambegone' to send e-mail. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: TLF (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: arnews@dsgml.com 23-Oct-99 20:04:15 To: All 23-Oct-99 21:23:15 Subj: Re: bad netscape 4.61 GA (Strong encrypt version) cache bug From: Ariel On Sat, 23 Oct 1999, Mark Schlegel wrote: > Netscape will start filling the swapper.dat like crazy. [snip] > swapping took my swapper.dat from 40Meg to 141 Meg in just a few > minutes and I was able to kill netscape by Control+esc and then > selecting Close. > The only thing unusual with my netscape is that I have Auto loading of > images turned off I want to confirm that this happens - I notice it only when I have images turned off, and the page loads a very large number of images - a lot of them the same image, perhaps some of them in the cache already. This happens also with 4.0x versions, so it's not something new. Turning on images solves the problem, which is what I did - and then forgot about it till reminded here. Also, it not a memory leak exactly - netscape will release the memory eventually. The problem is that it allocates the memory in the first place - which it should not IMO. -Ariel --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Shore.Net/Eco Software, Inc; (info@shore.net) (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rsstan@ibm.net 23-Oct-99 19:41:14 To: All 23-Oct-99 21:23:15 Subj: Netscape Dowload Problems - Solution(??) From: "Bob Stan" I have had a the familiar problem of downloads terminating with Netscape 4.04 and higher. Although they would sometimes complete, they usually did not. I also use Object Desktop 2.0 and have had Object Netscan installed. Since removing Object deskscan, I have successfully downloaded files with Navigator 4.6 of sizes from 7 Meg to 1 Meg with no problems with a modem running at 28.8 (although it is a 57K modem my lines never permit anything above 28.8). I don't know if this is coincidence as the successful downloads have all occurred today and maybe something else is involved. I thought I would mention it though. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: hamei@pacbell.net 23-Oct-99 23:47:08 To: All 24-Oct-99 05:23:24 Subj: Re: JAVAI access violation From: hamei@pacbell.net In , doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) writes: >I use SmartCache, which is a JAVA program, I have just installed Adobe >Acrobat reader for JAVA (slow, but it seems to work), and the HOTJAVA >web browser, from SUN, works (there are a few problems, but they seem >to be programing problems, not JAVA problems). don't you love the HotJava browser ? looks good, works well (usually), fun, simple . . . recommended ! ( hope they fix a few of the quirks, tho ) Maybe Java will eventually become useful . . . > >Hope this helps... >****************************** >From the PC of Doug Bissett >doug.bissett at attglobal.net >The " at " must be changed to "@" >****************************** -- Albert, the Mad Shirt Grinder --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: SBC Internet Services (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: sma.spam-not@rtd.com 24-Oct-99 05:51:16 To: All 24-Oct-99 05:23:24 Subj: Re: Netscape Dowload Problems - Solution(??) From: James Moe Bob Stan wrote: > > I have had a the familiar problem of downloads terminating with Netscape 4.04 > and higher. Although they would sometimes complete, they usually did not. I > also use Object Desktop 2.0 and have had Object Netscan installed. Since > removing Object deskscan, I have successfully downloaded files with Navigator > 4.6 of sizes from 7 Meg to 1 Meg with no problems with a modem running at > 28.8 (although it is a 57K modem my lines never permit anything above 28.8). Mine, too. It's rare to get a 28.8k connection. Usually 26.4k. Although the actual transfer rate reported by the dialer is considerably higher than those numbers imply: 3.3KB to 5.5KB/sec. Go figure.... > I don't know if this is coincidence as the successful downloads have all > occurred today and maybe something else is involved. I thought I would > mention it though. The site that seems to display this problem most consistenly is IBM's. I cannot offhand remember a download terminating prematurely using NS4.61, besides IBM's. Whatever they are using for servers become erratic (long gaps where nothing is transferred), then the service is briefly unavailable, then it's back up and the download proceeds smoothly. Mornings seem to be the worst times, afternoons better. If you have a choice, use FTP. It always works. Others have suggested WGET (check out hobbes) which is also quite reliable and can resume a partial download. -- sma at rtd dot com Remove ".spam-not" for email --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Sohnen-Moe Associates, Inc (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: sma.spam-not@rtd.com 24-Oct-99 05:59:10 To: All 24-Oct-99 05:23:24 Subj: Re: 32 bit CHKDSK and SCSI HD problem From: James Moe Raphael Tennenbaum wrote: > > [ ... ] > > I haven't had any problems since this one with Adaptec but > others have, and these -- along with the Incredible Growing > Driver Size -- have probably put me off Adaptec forever. > And that they are outrageously overpriced. -- sma at rtd dot com Remove ".spam-not" for email --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Sohnen-Moe Associates, Inc (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu 24-Oct-99 08:57:08 To: All 24-Oct-99 10:19:13 Subj: Re: bad netscape 4.61 GA (Strong encrypt version) cache bug From: tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu Mike Ruskai writes: >> Mark Schlegel writes: >>> The behavior seems to be that if you repeatedly enter some pages then >>> go one level down then return to the main page, eventually when you >>> come to the main page, Netscape will start filling the swapper.dat >>> like crazy. >> swapper.dat is not managed by Netscape, but rather by the operating >> system, so I don't know why you're blaming Netscape for the behavior >> you've observed. > Are you being intentionally daft? I see you're starting right off with an insult. Why should I respond to you any further? --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: IFA B111 (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu 24-Oct-99 08:56:01 To: All 24-Oct-99 10:19:13 Subj: Re: bad netscape 4.61 GA (Strong encrypt version) cache bug From: tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu Lorne Sunley writes: >> Mark Schlegel writes: >>> The behavior seems to be that if you repeatedly enter some pages then >>> go one level down then return to the main page, eventually when you >>> come to the main page, Netscape will start filling the swapper.dat >>> like crazy. >> swapper.dat is not managed by Netscape, but rather by the operating >> system, so I don't know why you're blaming Netscape for the behavior >> you've observed. > Probably because an application is able to allocate memory > and never release it. I've not observed that behavior with 4.61, and I frequently enter pages, then go one level down, then return to the main page. My swap file is still at its original size. > In order to provide for this "ever increasing" virtual memory > requirement, the OS will allocate more and more space > for the SWAPPER.DAT file. It wouldn't be the first time the operating system didn't shrink swapper.dat. > This behaviour (the growth of SWAPPER.DAT) is common > when applications have bugs that allocate memory but never > release it back to the operating system. It should be easy to test whether Netscape is leaking memory. Simply exit Netscape. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: IFA B111 (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: Jakob_Rascher@t-online.de 24-Oct-99 10:43:25 To: All 24-Oct-99 10:19:13 Subj: Re: Netscape Dowload Problems - Solution(??) From: Jakob_Rascher@t-online.de Hi Bob, take awget1512 from Hobbes Jakob On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 23:41:29, "Bob Stan" wrote: > I have had a the familiar problem of downloads terminating with Netscape 4.04 > and higher. Although they would sometimes complete, they usually did not. I > also use Object Desktop 2.0 and have had Object Netscan installed. Since > removing Object deskscan, I have successfully downloaded files with Navigator > 4.6 of sizes from 7 Meg to 1 Meg with no problems with a modem running at > 28.8 (although it is a 57K modem my lines never permit anything above 28.8). > I don't know if this is coincidence as the successful downloads have all > occurred today and maybe something else is involved. I thought I would > mention it though. > > --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: T-Online (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: KevH@yorkieLL.dabsol.co.uk 24-Oct-99 13:04:15 To: All 24-Oct-99 14:29:20 Subj: Update Blues From: KevH@yorkieLL.dabsol.co.uk Hi Group Readers, Not a bug report, hopefully, just some advice and knowledge which I must be missing. I have recently installed warp3 Red Spine on a newly assembled system. No great problems there and one might call this Stage I. Stage II is the loading of software - a few problems here but hopefully nothing without a solution. Quattro Pro v5.0 will not run. Loads the Details/ Welcome/Owner Dialog box then goes no further. The situation is similar to one encountered with either low resources or wrong file/format type. QP5.0 is supposedly HPFS aware and have tried it on both a HPFS and Fat16 partition. Still that is not my main and most pressing problem. Stage III is the updating of W3. In an earlier posting about this (really the reply), it was advised to visit:- ftp://ps.software.ibm.com/ps/products/tcpip/fixes/v2.0os2/un64092/ for TCP/IP v3 (from the W3 base v2). Also to visit:- ftp://ftp01.ny.us.ibm.net/pub/PPP/ for PPP protocol addition. I have gone to these file areas on five occasions but am not able to download any as I receive an error 550. I do not know what this error refers to but as my browser/ ftp setup is about 3 years old (a system with Win 3.11) I thought that maybe the problem might just be there. Of course FTP is not exactly an area whereby updating is done very frequently so I have my doubts if this is the real issue. However, I have asked various friends to help out and they all report problems (different error numbered messages). Could some kind soul give me some advice on this? --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: hpholm@post1.tele.dk 24-Oct-99 12:46:15 To: All 24-Oct-99 14:29:20 Subj: Re: hung up, but good From: hpholm@post1.tele.dk (Hans Peter Holm) G. J. Mattey wrote: > Hans Peter Holm wrote: ... > > If you haven't tried it already, adding the line > > SET DESKTOP=[drive]:\DESKTOP to config.sys might help. > I had this problem, too. The solution worked for me. > > Now how do I get rid of all those temporary desktops?? I don't have a really good answer to this question. The desktop links itself to folders, files, templates etc. in mysterious ways (for me!) so I simply moved the 'Previous Desktop' object into a subfolder and forgot all about it. You might want to check the size of the object, and move or delete any large binary downloads from it first. Deleting the OS/2 System folder from a Previous Desktop object on an earlier occasion, got me into a lot of trouble with missing objects on the real desktop. That's a long time ago (1996) and I wasn't really sure what I was doing, but the power of WPS still scares me a bit. ;-) -- Hans --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Warped TEAM OS/2 DANMARK world (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: R.Pronk@twi.tudelft.nl 24-Oct-99 16:12:17 To: mc6530@mclink.it 24-Oct-99 14:29:20 Subj: Re: CHKDSK failing on JFS partition To: Yuri Dario From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9?= Pronk Hi Yuri, I'm also having problems with JFS (JFSfix loaded, no difference) on my SMP machine. For some unknown reason ARJ (OS/2-version) isn't able to extract compressed files on a JFS partition. When I copy the file to either a HPFS or FAT partition, it works fine. That's the first problem, but a bigger problem is VACPP (fixpack 8). When I have the Odin sources on my JFS partition, I can't compile them completely because VACPP doesn't copy the .LIB files into the lib directory. When I do this manually and restart the make, it continues to the next DLL, but quits there with exactly the same problem. When I compile Odin from a HPFS partition, there is no problem! Can you confirm these problems? It might be a bug that only shows on SMP machines. If you have these problems as well we should try contacting IBM. For now I'll format my JFS partition to HPFS :-((, because I don't want to risk my data. My configuration: Abit BP6 440BX mobo, dual Celeron 466Mhz 128 Mb RAM, 14Gb IBM DTTA harddisk DVD player, HP 7500 cdwriter, Sb 16 Bye, Ren‚ Pronk > yesterday I lost my JFS partition from my WarpServer for Ebusiness PC. > Now chkdsk is unable to restore the partition because it is quitting > during step 3 > > E:\>chkdsk F: /f > The current hard disk drive is: F: > The type of file system for the disk is JFS. > The JFS file system program has been started. > CHKDSK Block size in bytes: 4096 > CHKDSK File system size in blocks: 1048233 > CHKDSK *Phase 0 - Replay Journal Log > CHKDSK *Phase 1 - Check Blocks, Files/Directories, and Directory > Entries > CHKDSK *Phase 2 - Count Links > CHKDSK *Phase 3 - Rescan for Duplicate Blocks and Verify Directory > Tree > ....|.... > E:\> > > I were using the JFS.IFS fixed when the partition got corrupted. I > tried also using the old JFS.IFS but it has the same problem. > The partition data should be still good, because steps 1 and 2 can be > completed. > > My pc is a dual P3/450, 256MB, supermicro P6DBU with IBM 9.1scsi U2W. > > I need some help to reset the dirty flag on JFS, because I need to > extract at least a few missing files from tapes. > > Can you help me? --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Delft University of Technology (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: thannymeister@spambegone.yahoo.com 24-Oct-99 11:57:08 To: All 24-Oct-99 14:29:21 Subj: Re: bad netscape 4.61 GA (Strong encrypt version) cache bug From: "Mike Ruskai" On 24 Oct 1999 08:57:17 GMT, tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu wrote: >Mike Ruskai writes: > >>> Mark Schlegel writes: > >>>> The behavior seems to be that if you repeatedly enter some pages then >>>> go one level down then return to the main page, eventually when you >>>> come to the main page, Netscape will start filling the swapper.dat >>>> like crazy. > >>> swapper.dat is not managed by Netscape, but rather by the operating >>> system, so I don't know why you're blaming Netscape for the behavior >>> you've observed. > >> Are you being intentionally daft? > >I see you're starting right off with an insult. Why should I respond >to you any further? Because you seem to enjoy wasting your time, by posting irrelevant information in response to a properly-formed question. If you were really miffed at what you made into a personal insult, you'd have not responded at all. - Mike Remove 'spambegone' to send e-mail. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: TLF (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: moschleg@erols.com 24-Oct-99 13:26:28 To: tholenAntiSpam@ifa.hawaii.edu, th.. 24-Oct-99 16:44:17 Subj: Re: bad netscape 4.61 GA (Strong encrypt version) cache bug To: tholenAntiSpam@ifa.hawaii.edu, tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu From: Mark Schlegel tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu wrote: > Mark Schlegel writes: > > > The behavior seems to be that if you repeatedly enter some pages then > > go one level down then return to the main page, eventually when you > > come to the main page, Netscape will start filling the swapper.dat > > like crazy. > > swapper.dat is not managed by Netscape, but rather by the operating > system, so I don't know why you're blaming Netscape for the behavior > you've observed. Hmm, could it be because the second I closed Netscape the swapper.dat shrunk down from 141 Meg to ~60 Meg in just a few minutes? That seems to point to NS being the culprit, right? Mark --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: moschleg@erols.com 24-Oct-99 13:29:05 To: All 24-Oct-99 16:44:17 Subj: Re: bad netscape 4.61 GA (Strong encrypt version) cache bug From: Mark Schlegel tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu wrote: > Lorne Sunley writes: > > It should be easy to test whether Netscape is leaking memory. Simply > exit Netscape. Yes, I did exit netscape, and the swapper.dat immediately shrank. I've been able to replicate this multiple times on the computing.net/os2/wwwboard site Mark --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: moschleg@erols.com 24-Oct-99 15:41:03 To: All 24-Oct-99 16:44:17 Subj: NS 4.61 GA (US/strong) sys3175 upon emptying trash From: Mark Schlegel I would like to report that NS 4.61 GA strong encryption US/Canada version just gave me a SYS3175: ============ quote of popuplog.os2 ============ 10-24-1999 15:32:40 SYS3175 PID 0033 TID 0001 Slot 0054 F:\TCPIP\COMM461X\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE c0000005 1bfac361 P1=00000000 P2=ffffffff P3=XXXXXXXX P4=XXXXXXXX EAX=014ad910 EBX=00000000 ECX=00000000 EDX=00ce0038 ESI=014ad910 EDI=00000000 DS=0053 DSACC=d0f3 DSLIM=1fffffff ES=0053 ESACC=d0f3 ESLIM=1fffffff FS=150b FSACC=00f3 FSLIM=00000030 GS=0000 GSACC=**** GSLIM=******** CS:EIP=005b:1e6c9b03 CSACC=d0df CSLIM=1fffffff SS:ESP=0053:007c5db0 SSACC=d0f3 SSLIM=1fffffff EBP=007c5dc4 FLG=00012213 DOSCALL1.DLL 0003:0000c361 ====================================== description of situation I had one mail sitting "Unsent Messages", I didn't want to send it so I deleted it. This of course put it in the trash folder, later I wanted to look at the trash folder before clearing it so I opened the trash folder. Only the one mail was in there, so I selected File->Empty trash on local mail, this was done while the trash folder was still open. This resulted in the sys3175 I have Netscape 4.61 GA 128 bit strong US/canada version, on warp 4, FPak 9, 64 megs physical ram. Mark --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net 24-Oct-99 20:21:09 To: All 24-Oct-99 19:49:27 Subj: Re: JAVAI access violation From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 23:47:17, hamei@pacbell.net wrote: > don't you love the HotJava browser ? looks good, works well (usually), > fun, simple . . . recommended ! ( hope they fix a few of the quirks, tho ) > Maybe Java will eventually become useful . . . > > Actually, it does look like it could be turned into something useful. In it's current form, however, it is not really usable (at least in my case). I have JAVA 1.1.8, with the 19990910 update. Two major things that turn me off: 1) I get into about 5, or 6, web pages, with no problems, but then the vertical, and horizontal scroll bars seem to switch places (I get a horizontal bar, instead of a vertical bar), and I can't scroll down to get to the bottom of a page (I don't think the horizontal scrolling works either). At that point, I have to close the program, and restart it, to get another 5, or 6, pages when it does it again. 2) There is no support for encryption. If it had 128 bit encryption, it would be more usable. I do use JAVA for other things. I use SmartCache (http://ncic.netmag.cz/apps/nase/smartcache_e.html) instead of the Netscape cache (it works in all of my browsers, including HotJava and StarOffice), and now with the Adobe Acrobat viewer (I don't think I will use that much, it is just too slow to start, but seems to work otherwise). Just my C$.03 ($.02 US)... ****************************** From the PC of Doug Bissett doug.bissett at attglobal.net The " at " must be changed to "@" ****************************** --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: mckinnis@attglobal.net 24-Oct-99 15:19:11 To: All 24-Oct-99 19:49:27 Subj: Re: Netscape Dowload Problems - Solution(??) From: Chuck McKinnis AWGet is a great piece of code if the server site follows the rules. I have never been able to use it to download Netscape. Jakob_Rascher@t-online.de wrote: > > Hi Bob, > take awget1512 from Hobbes > Jakob > > On Sat, 23 Oct 1999 23:41:29, "Bob Stan" wrote: > > > I have had a the familiar problem of downloads terminating with Netscape 4.04 > > and higher. Although they would sometimes complete, they usually did not. I > > also use Object Desktop 2.0 and have had Object Netscan installed. Since > > removing Object deskscan, I have successfully downloaded files with Navigator > > 4.6 of sizes from 7 Meg to 1 Meg with no problems with a modem running at > > 28.8 (although it is a 57K modem my lines never permit anything above 28.8). > > I don't know if this is coincidence as the successful downloads have all > > occurred today and maybe something else is involved. I thought I would > > mention it though. > > > > -- Chuck McKinnis Senior Systems Engineer Denver Solutions Group, Inc. IBM Business Partner IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired) --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Denver Solutions Group (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: dwparsons@t-online.de 24-Oct-99 23:20:16 To: All 24-Oct-99 19:49:27 Subj: Re: PINBALL.SYS and FP12? From: dwparsons@t-online.de (Dave Parsons) On Thu, 21 Oct 1999 17:34:14, Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser wrote: > > And my WARP4 is at FP12, although this was working at > FP11 & perhaps FP10. I don't recall what was current > this past May. But like I say, I should think the > Fix Pack level on OS/2 is irrelevant. > > WW > Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT! Thanks Willy, Yes, I re-installed pinball.sys for the third time and it now seems to work again. Don't know what was wrong but all's well that ends well. Cheers, -- Dave --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: CDL (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: mckinnis@attglobal.net 24-Oct-99 15:32:20 To: All 24-Oct-99 19:49:27 Subj: Backing out FP12 From: Chuck McKinnis Has anyone done this? I tried with rather dismal results. I think I understand the fixpack process fairly well, but: Opened the OS2SERV directory that I installed FP12 from and started in. Selected the advanced options, displayed the backed up components, and tried to back out to FP11. Failed with the following message: CSF0214: There is not enough space on disk C to continue. Drive C has 120Mb+ of free space. Deleted C:\FIXSTART, and checked for the various IBMCSFLK.* files. Looked in IBMCSFLK.LST and found a RMDIR H:\IBMCSFLK (interesting that it would complain about C since it looks like it planned to use H for a work area). Anyway, deleted all of the temporary service files and went back to OS2SERV. This time I selected FP12 and "Uninstall". My system proceeded to reboot twice and came back to life. SYSLEVEL.OS2 shows FP11 and SYSLEVEL.FPK shows FP12. Don't think everything went quite right. My backup directory is still intact, but I'm not sure what I can do with it. I did try using CSF140 instead of CSF141 to do the backout, but I still get the C drive message. I am setting here trying to decide whether to try a backout to the archive and re-apply FP11, wait for some resolution from IBM, re-install WARP 4 from scratch, or just continue running with a system at some level. -- Chuck McKinnis Senior Systems Engineer Denver Solutions Group, Inc. IBM Business Partner IBM Senior Systems Engineer (retired) --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Denver Solutions Group (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: JHB@no.spam.jita.demon.co.uk 24-Oct-99 22:14:19 To: All 24-Oct-99 21:21:05 Subj: Re: 32 bit CHKDSK and SCSI HD problem From: JHB@no.spam.jita.demon.co.uk (Jim Backus) On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 05:59:21, James Moe wrote: > > I haven't had any problems since this one with Adaptec but > > others have, and these -- along with the Incredible Growing > > Driver Size -- have probably put me off Adaptec forever. > > > And that they are outrageously overpriced. OK guys thanks for the tips - I've got the original Adaptec stuff so restoring the drivers should not be a problem. Sometime - a wet winter weekend I expect - the machine will be wiped and everything re-installed - I'll make sure that translation is enabled this time :-) So if Adaptec is no longer the flavour for OS/2 what is the recommendation for SCSI adaptors? Jim Backus OS/2 user because it's better bona fide replies to jimb(at)jita(dot)demon(dot)co(dot)uk --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Fourmyle (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: mr_ace@gmx.de 24-Oct-99 22:40:11 To: All 24-Oct-99 21:21:06 Subj: Re: JAVAI access violation From: mr_ace@gmx.de Hi! >Well, the first thing I would do, is remove the -nojit option. Then, I >would modify my CLASSPATH statement, in CONFIG.SYS, to eliminate all >references to older versions of JAVA. That seemed to help! Thanx! Which compiler is used, when -nojit is enabled??? Cu! Andi --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: University of Karlsruhe (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: rsteiner@visi.com 24-Oct-99 19:55:13 To: All 25-Oct-99 03:26:08 Subj: Re: 32 bit CHKDSK and SCSI HD problem From: rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner) Here in comp.os.os2.bugs, James Moe spake unto us, saying: >Raphael Tennenbaum wrote: > >> I haven't had any problems since this one with Adaptec but >> others have, and these -- along with the Incredible Growing >> Driver Size -- have probably put me off Adaptec forever. >> > And that they are outrageously overpriced. They certainly are, at least if you choose to purchase them as separate components. All five of my main systems here have Adaptec cards, but I've purchased them all as part of a complete system package, so the card price really wasn't a factor. -- -Rich Steiner >>>---> rsteiner@visi.com >>>---> Bloomington, MN OS/2 + Linux + BeOS + FreeBSD + Solaris + WinNT4 + Win95 + DOS + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-) Anything not nailed down is a cat toy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: FIELDATA FORTRAN ENTHUSIASTS CLUB (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: n3jja@my.address.is.my.business.... 25-Oct-99 01:59:08 To: All 25-Oct-99 03:26:08 Subj: Re: JAVAI access violation Message sender: n3jja@my.address.is.my.business.jackoff From: n3jja@my.address.is.my.business.jackoff (Jim Nuytens) On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:56:31, jms%email.de%email.de%email.de@bromo.email.ch (Jens) wrote: > > If I go to www.proxymate.com/signup.html, I get a security warning. > After denying or granting, netscape 4.61 crashes with an access > violation in JAVAI.DLL. > I use java 1.1.8 from 28jul99 with option -nojit > There was an update to Java in September. You should get the fixes installed. I had a problem with Simplicity for Java (a really neat Java programming tool that even someone like me [with no programming experience] can create Java programs with) causing a problem with JAVAX.DLL. After I installed the latest fixes, I haven't seen the problem return yet. "The bureaucratic mentality is the only constant in the universe." Dr. McCoy to Kirk / Star Trek IV:The Voyage Home --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: whonea@codenet.net 24-Oct-99 23:01:15 To: All 25-Oct-99 03:26:09 Subj: Re: Netscape Dowload Problems - Solution(??) From: whonea@codenet.net (Will Honea) On Sun, 24 Oct 1999 21:19:23, Chuck McKinnis wrote: > AWGet is a great piece of code if the server site follows the rules. I > have never been able to use it to download Netscape. Gotta be sneaky. Start an ftp d/l then use CTL-ALT-T to get a popup with the full URL, including the password. Copy that to the AWGet URL (manually or with DragText and off it goes. You can then abort the NS d/l. Will Honea --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jyouells@lifestream.microserve.com 25-Oct-99 05:21:21 To: All 25-Oct-99 03:26:09 Subj: Re: Backing out FP12 From: jyouells@lifestream.microserve.com (John Youells) Chuck McKinnis wrote: >Has anyone done this? I tried with rather dismal results. I think I >understand the fixpack process fairly well, but: > snip >I am setting here trying to decide whether to try a backout to the >archive and re-apply FP11, wait for some resolution from IBM, re-install >WARP 4 from scratch, or just continue running with a system at some >level. I haven't tried to backup to FP11 but I did backup to FP11's pmmerge.dll and my system seems to have returned to stability. Running K62 400,128MB, SP97V, AHA3940 (about 9 scsi devices) AW35Pro ISA, Elsa3000s (Virge) 4 MB Elsa 1.22 or Scitech Beta9 NS 2.02 4.04 and 4.61GA (usually a combination of 2.02 and 4.61 in any one session. I was getting a lot of Netscape and winos2 related lockups that I didn't have with FP11. John Youells LifeStream Computing --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: LifeStream Computing (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jhong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca 25-Oct-99 06:49:24 To: All 25-Oct-99 07:11:25 Subj: Re: 32 bit CHKDSK and SCSI HD problem From: jhong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (John Hong) JHB@no.spam.jita.demon.co.uk (Jim Backus) writes: >So if Adaptec is no longer the flavour for OS/2 what is the >recommendation for SCSI adaptors? Any using a supported Symbios Logic chipset (ie. ASUS SC-875 uses the Symbios 53c875 chipset). Only chipset that does not have a driver from them that I know of is their 53c416 line. Another decent/cheap pick is a supported Initio SCSI card (www.initio.com). --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Memorial University of Newfoundland (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: andy@schiller.big.ac.at 25-Oct-99 09:04:03 To: All 25-Oct-99 07:11:25 Subj: Re: winos2 fullscreen - no mouse pointer From: andy cotroneo@stny.rr.com schrieb: > winos2 seamless works fine on my system, but > when I try to bring it up fullscreen, there is no > mousepointer. > > Anyone know how to bring the pointer back? > > Keith Cotroneo > cotroneo@stny.rr.com Look into your config.sys if this driver is mentioned. DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VMOUSE.SYS Identifies and loads the mouse driver to let you use a mouse with DOS. Mouse support for OS/2 is loaded below. <<=NOTE=>> If you don't have this line (or you REM'd it), you will not have mouse support in your DOS sessions. greeting Andreas --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Graz University of Technology, Austria (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: wwilly@one.net 25-Oct-99 08:08:25 To: All 25-Oct-99 10:31:28 Subj: Re: Backing out FP12 From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser In article <38137AF9.A6465EFC@attglobal.net>, Chuck McKinnis wrote: <<>> > Opened the OS2SERV directory <<>> Chuck, the one time I had to back out of a Fix Pack was from FP10 to FP9. And since the problem was that a driver was preventing me from getting to my Desktop, I had to do it by booting from my Utility Boot Diskettes. I ran the following .CMD file: SET CSFUTILPATH=E:\KICKER E:\KICKER\FSERVICE /R:E:\KICKER\FP102FP9.RSP "/S:E:\Corrective Service!!WARP 4 Fix Pack 10" /B:F (That's actually 2 lines, but I've had to split the second one because of restrictions of Deja News.) The long directory name in quotes was where I had the tree of files constituting Fix Pack 10. And my boot partition is F. This was the response file: :LOGFILE F:\OS2\INSTALL\SERVICE.LOG :TARGET ARCHIVE :BACKOUT :SYSLEVEL F:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.OS2 In other words, I used FSERVICE, not OS2SERV. And Fix Tool is KNOWN to use a little space on the C partition, regardless of anything else about your configuration. This is documented in the README. It means that if you have a multi-OS system, C absolutely must be either FAT16 or HPFS, not FAT32 or NTFS or . . . . . . I think Irv mumbled something here once that he was thinking about maybe possibly perhaps eliminating this restriction some fine day. I'm not holding him to anything, but it would be nice. WW Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT! Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Team OS/2 Cincinnati (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: dwilliams9494@my-deja.com 25-Oct-99 13:53:29 To: All 25-Oct-99 14:48:15 Subj: Warp Server not able to get available memory From: dwilliams9494@my-deja.com We have a NetFinity 3000 with 528 MB memory running Warp Server 4.0 and DB2 Universal Database 5.2, Fixpack 11. We've been unable to get DB2 to use large amounts of this memory for bufferpools. If I request more than a trivial amount of memory, DB2 doesn't get the memory, and drops back to very low bufferpool sizes (We determined this by using a memory monitoring tool and looking at db2diag.log). When we installed Warp 4.0 workstation on the same PC with the same database version, the problem went away and it all worked fine. Is there a known problem with Warp Server making large (e.g., > 64 MB) of memory available to programs, such as DB2? Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jimburke@ionet.net 25-Oct-99 16:21:02 To: All 25-Oct-99 16:44:04 Subj: Re: Update Blues From: jimburke@ionet.net (Jim Burke) Did you try to get fixpack 39? It isn't the last one, but I've read it is a stable one. I'll check and see what version of qpro I have. Yes, I have 5(but 2 of my installation diskettes have bad sectors so I can't install it any longer--just have to copy the program and the directories from place to place). Do you install the software through os2 or through windows. I'm a little vague on warp 3, but there in the system folder there's a place to search for and add new programs. You can choose dos, winos2 folders, or even individual programs. As for installing the fixpacks, give Duane's page a shot... http://www.gt-online.com/~bri/fix.html <--- this is another, Duane's pages were not loading. (I search on Duane Indelible Blue to find him. ) You need to post some details of your new system (more than some, really) if you want good advice. Sometimes you'll discover problems that are caused by hardware, especially video and sound cards. KevH@yorkieLL.dabsol.co.uk wrote: <-----this didn't work. >Hi Group Readers, > > Not a bug report, hopefully, just some advice and >knowledge which I must be missing. > I have recently installed warp3 Red Spine on a newly >assembled system. No great problems there and one might >call this Stage I. > Stage II is the loading of software - a few >problems here but hopefully nothing without a solution. >Quattro Pro v5.0 will not run. Loads the Details/ >Welcome/Owner Dialog box then goes no further. The >situation is similar to one encountered with either >low resources or wrong file/format type. QP5.0 is >supposedly HPFS aware and have tried it on both a >HPFS and Fat16 partition. Still that is not my main >and most pressing problem. > Stage III is the updating of W3. In an earlier >posting about this (really the reply), it was advised >to visit:- >ftp://ps.software.ibm.com/ps/products/tcpip/fixes/v2.0os2/un64092/ >for TCP/IP v3 (from the W3 base v2). >Also to visit:- >ftp://ftp01.ny.us.ibm.net/pub/PPP/ >for PPP protocol addition. > I have gone to these file areas on five occasions but >am not able to download any as I receive an error 550. >I do not know what this error refers to but as my browser/ >ftp setup is about 3 years old (a system with Win 3.11) >I thought that maybe the problem might just be there. Of >course FTP is not exactly an area whereby updating is >done very frequently so I have my doubts if this is the >real issue. However, I have asked various friends to >help out and they all report problems (different error >numbered messages). > Could some kind soul give me some advice on this? --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: ioNET Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bbarclay@ca.ibm.com 25-Oct-99 11:41:26 To: All 25-Oct-99 16:44:04 Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory From: Brad BARCLAY dwilliams9494@my-deja.com wrote: > > We have a NetFinity 3000 with 528 MB memory running Warp Server 4.0 and > DB2 Universal Database 5.2, Fixpack 11. We've been unable to get DB2 > to use large amounts of this memory for bufferpools. If I request more > than a trivial amount of memory, DB2 doesn't get the memory, and drops > back to very low bufferpool sizes (We determined this by using a memory > monitoring tool and looking at db2diag.log). > > When we installed Warp 4.0 workstation on the same PC with the same > database version, the problem went away and it all worked fine. > > Is there a known problem with Warp Server making large (e.g., > 64 MB) > of memory available to programs, such as DB2? Just something to remember - there is a big difference between WARP Server v4 and WARP client v4. The former is actually based on the WARP v3 client codebase. Do you have the latest WARP Server v4 fixpak installed? Brad BARCLAY =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Posted from the OS/2 WARP v4.5 desktop of Brad BARCLAY. E-Mail: bbarclay@ca.ibm.com Location: 2G43D@Torolabs --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: IBM Toronto Labs, DB2 for OS/2 Install Developer (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: MtLavinia_nospam@nym_nospam.alia... 25-Oct-99 10:18:10 To: All 25-Oct-99 16:44:04 Subj: FP12 won't boot - HELP Message sender: MtLavinia_nospam@nym_nospam.alias.net From: "Lavinia" I've installed FP12 over FP8. It all went well, and on reboot the locked drivers were applied. When the boot continues, I get numerous traps, all sys3175. The first one is for smstart.exe. There are numerous other traps, among them - \mptn\bin\cntrl.exe, \mptn\bin\inetwait, ibmcom\protocol\nbtcp.exe, \mptn\bin\vdosctl.exe, and finally it grinds to a halt with pmmerge.dll. The trap is the same for all, 0C0000005H which is XCPT_ACCESS_VIOLATION and the P1 code is 00000001H which is XCPT_READ_ACCESS. Can anyone tell me why these errors are occuring? I commented out smstart but the other traps still happen. I backed out to FP8 but would like to get 12 installed. Any suggestions? Lavinia remove '_nospam' from address block for email --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: NeverUmind (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca 25-Oct-99 18:07:02 To: All 25-Oct-99 16:44:04 Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 17:23:51, dwilliams9494@my-deja.com wrote: > Thanks for the quick response, Brad. We have installed all the latest > fixpacks; even lived through inserting 18 diskettes for one of them. > > I'm vaguely aware of the Warp Server v4 vs. Warp Client v4 codebase > differences. I have to stop myself from referring to Warp Server v4 as > version 3; it calls itself v4, but it looks and acts like v3 ;-). I > suspect that may be the source of the problem: that something was fixed > for Warp 4 workstation, but isn't in the Warp Server code. > > For our in-house machines, we're working around the problem by > installing Warp 4 workstation on the database server. But we HAVE to > get it working under Warp Server at our customer sites, for lots of > reasons. > > Any suggestions? Were there any fixes in Warp workstation that > addressed this? Is there any change in how Warp Server works that it > won't give an application very much memory unless you configure it a > certain way? > > Derek > > In article <38147A41.455D68ED@ca.ibm.com>, > Brad BARCLAY wrote: > > dwilliams9494@my-deja.com wrote: > > > > > > We have a NetFinity 3000 with 528 MB memory running Warp Server 4.0 > and > > > DB2 Universal Database 5.2, Fixpack 11. We've been unable to get > DB2 > > > to use large amounts of this memory for bufferpools. If I request > more > > > than a trivial amount of memory, DB2 doesn't get the memory, and > drops > > > back to very low bufferpool sizes (We determined this by using a > memory > > > monitoring tool and looking at db2diag.log). > > > > > > When we installed Warp 4.0 workstation on the same PC with the same > > > database version, the problem went away and it all worked fine. > > > > > > Is there a known problem with Warp Server making large (e.g., > 64 > MB) > > > of memory available to programs, such as DB2? > > > > Just something to remember - there is a big difference between > WARP > > Server v4 and WARP client v4. The former is actually based on the > WARP > > v3 client codebase. > > > > Do you have the latest WARP Server v4 fixpak installed? > > The most likely thing is the disk cache allocated by HPFS386. The largest cache size used by HPFS (which is what is running on the Warp 4 client) is 2 Mbyte. HPFS386 will allocated a much larger default cache. Take a look at the HPFS386.INI (?) and see what the max cache size is set to. (I think that's where it is but I do not have HPFS386 installed on my server WSeB) Lorne Sunley --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: MBnet Networking Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: dwilliams9494@my-deja.com 25-Oct-99 17:23:25 To: All 25-Oct-99 16:44:04 Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory From: dwilliams9494@my-deja.com Thanks for the quick response, Brad. We have installed all the latest fixpacks; even lived through inserting 18 diskettes for one of them. I'm vaguely aware of the Warp Server v4 vs. Warp Client v4 codebase differences. I have to stop myself from referring to Warp Server v4 as version 3; it calls itself v4, but it looks and acts like v3 ;-). I suspect that may be the source of the problem: that something was fixed for Warp 4 workstation, but isn't in the Warp Server code. For our in-house machines, we're working around the problem by installing Warp 4 workstation on the database server. But we HAVE to get it working under Warp Server at our customer sites, for lots of reasons. Any suggestions? Were there any fixes in Warp workstation that addressed this? Is there any change in how Warp Server works that it won't give an application very much memory unless you configure it a certain way? Derek In article <38147A41.455D68ED@ca.ibm.com>, Brad BARCLAY wrote: > dwilliams9494@my-deja.com wrote: > > > > We have a NetFinity 3000 with 528 MB memory running Warp Server 4.0 and > > DB2 Universal Database 5.2, Fixpack 11. We've been unable to get DB2 > > to use large amounts of this memory for bufferpools. If I request more > > than a trivial amount of memory, DB2 doesn't get the memory, and drops > > back to very low bufferpool sizes (We determined this by using a memory > > monitoring tool and looking at db2diag.log). > > > > When we installed Warp 4.0 workstation on the same PC with the same > > database version, the problem went away and it all worked fine. > > > > Is there a known problem with Warp Server making large (e.g., > 64 MB) > > of memory available to programs, such as DB2? > > Just something to remember - there is a big difference between WARP > Server v4 and WARP client v4. The former is actually based on the WARP > v3 client codebase. > > Do you have the latest WARP Server v4 fixpak installed? > > Brad BARCLAY > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Posted from the OS/2 WARP v4.5 desktop of Brad BARCLAY. > E-Mail: bbarclay@ca.ibm.com Location: 2G43D@Torolabs > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: iwaki@gte.net 25-Oct-99 17:40:11 To: All 25-Oct-99 16:44:04 Subj: creating bootable floppy diskette From: "michael" I want to create a bootable floppy diskette to upgrade my BIOS. The instructions state that I must have a DOS system to do this and with a formatted floppy, type "sys a:". I tried this using the OS/2 Warp 4 DOS Command Prompt and it did not work. It didn't recognize "sys" as a command. Can I create a bootable floppy diskette with OS/2 warp 4? thanks iwaki@gte.net --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: mkaply@NOSPAMus.ibm.com 25-Oct-99 13:51:10 To: All 25-Oct-99 16:44:04 Subj: Re: NS/2 4.61 Address Book From: Michael Kaply The other way should work regardless of file extension. They have a more robust import utility that was written by a third party. Mike Kaply IBM "Jaime A. Cruz, Jr." wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 > >Thanks, Mike. I actually ended up retyping everything by hand. I'm going to >save this information, though, so I don't have to go through this again. > >Any advice for going the other way (from OS/2 Communicator to Win32 >Communicator)? > >On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 10:49:46 -0400, Michael Kaply wrote: > >>Trey renaming the exported file to a .4LD rather than .LDI and then importing. >> >>The file netscape actually writes is an LDIF 4 file, not LDIF. >> >>This workaround is actually documented in the Netscape Communicator for Windows >>Release Notes. >> >>Mike Kaply >>IBM >> >> >>"Jaime A. Cruz, Jr." wrote: >> >>>I tried exporting my Netscape address book from WinNT (Communicator 4.61) and >>>importing the LDIF file into Communicator 4.61 under OS/2. It didn't work. >>>Nothing happened. Has anyone else tried this? Did you get it to work? How? >>> >>>Jaime A. Cruz, Jr. >>> >> > >Jaime A. Cruz, Jr. > >o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o >o o >o Visit the Nassau Wings Motorcycle Club at: o >o http://www.nassauwings.org/ o >o A Charter Member of the Motorcycle Web Ring! o >o o >o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o_o&o > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: PGPfreeware 5.0 OS/2 for non-commercial use >Comment: PGP 5.0 for OS/2 >Charset: cp850 > >wj8DBQE4EQAFgvzYfxgMc34RApvYAJ0ZL8/ojBZE/GoTJ8lY55H3imGOGACgjb7x >31+cQ4cnfcfPhjqdR2tdwaw= >=x3T/ >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: IBM (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com 25-Oct-99 13:56:29 To: All 25-Oct-99 16:44:04 Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory From: "Scott E. Garfinkle" On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 18:07:04 GMT, Lorne Sunley wrote: >> Is there a known problem with Warp Server making large (e.g., > 64 >> MB) >> > > of memory available to programs, such as DB2? Lorne is right -- it's probably hpfs386. In hpfs386.ini, add a line that reads maxheap=2048 Also, if you're running commserver, look for a line in config.sys that looks like DEVICE=C:\CMLIB\CMKFMDE.SYS If you find it, change it to look like DEVICE=C:\CMLIB\CMKFMDE.SYS /lsl=2m If this works, try 8m for better performance and see whether it still works. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: NCSD OS/2 Service (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: wwilly@one.net 25-Oct-99 20:02:22 To: All 25-Oct-99 16:44:04 Subj: Re: creating bootable floppy diskette From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser In article <01bf1ecd$98a655f0$4c2b173f@pro>, "michael" wrote: <<>> > Can I create a bootable floppy diskette with OS/2 warp 4? Yes, but BEFORE you do that, search Deja News on the subject of "Create Utility Diskettes." There's dozens, perhaps hundreds of posts on the subject. The way you create bootable OS/2 diskettes is to execute the Create Utility Diskettes utility in the System Setup folder. WW Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT! Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Team OS/2 Cincinnati (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca 25-Oct-99 18:08:15 To: All 25-Oct-99 16:44:04 Subj: Re: creating bootable floppy diskette From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 17:40:22, "michael" wrote: > I want to create a bootable floppy diskette to upgrade my BIOS. The > instructions state that I must have a DOS system to do this and with a > formatted floppy, type "sys a:". I tried this using the OS/2 Warp 4 DOS > Command Prompt and it did not work. It didn't recognize "sys" as a > command. Can I create a bootable floppy diskette with OS/2 warp 4? > No you can't. You need a PC-DOS or MS-DOS installation to do that. Lorne Sunley --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: MBnet Networking Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bts@iaehv.nl 25-Oct-99 01:38:05 To: All 25-Oct-99 19:06:14 Subj: Re: Solved: NS 4.61 uses 100% CPU From: "Martin Bartelds" On 21 Oct 1999 11:54:27 GMT, Rich Walsh wrote: :> :>Quite frankly, if you're truly interested in resolving - or at least :>working around - a problem you've had for a long time, a little more :>testing and a whole lot less less verbiage is called for. The known :>"cure" is *not* a small disk cache and no RAM cache (as you said above), :>but simply having both types of cache enabled, regardless of size, or :>both disabled. For many, the preferred solution is a large memory :>cache and a very small disk cache. Try it, and _then_ get back to us. :> Yep, a mem cache of 10 Mb and a diskcache of 1 Mb solves the problem. When I lower to about 64 Kb, on some sites, the same problem is back. Yes, I tried configs before posting. There seems to be just a critical high watermark for a specific site to let NS461 get into trouble. /martin. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: BTSoftware (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net 25-Oct-99 19:59:13 To: All 25-Oct-99 19:06:15 Subj: Re: Netscape Dowload Problems - Solution(??) From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 06:01:31, whonea@codenet.net (Will Honea) wrote: > Gotta be sneaky. Start an ftp d/l then use CTL-ALT-T to get a popup > with the full URL, including the password. Copy that to the AWGet URL > (manually or with DragText and off it goes. You can then abort the NS > d/l. > > Will Honea > You had better abort the NS download, before you let AWget/Wget start downloading (unless it is putting it in a different directory), or you could end up really confusing things... ****************************** From the PC of Doug Bissett doug.bissett at attglobal.net The " at " must be changed to "@" ****************************** --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: mc6530@mclink.it 25-Oct-99 20:28:06 To: All 25-Oct-99 19:06:15 Subj: Re: CHKDSK failing on JFS partition From: mc6530@mclink.it (Yuri Dario) Hi Charles, > A bit late but just in case you have not fixed your problem yet. Try > booting from the Utility disks and run chkdsk ?: /F from the A: prompt. didn't work also this solution. But now I have something new: I have run chkdsk with debug options and here is the log generated. What is return code 10081?? The current hard disk drive is: F: The type of file system for the disk is JFS. The JFS file system program has been started. CHKDSK The current hard disk drive is: F: (chklog) CHKDSK The current hard disk drive is: F: (chklog) CHKDSK DosOpen(...OPEN_SHARE_DENYREADWRITE|OPEN_ACCESS_READWRITE...) returned rc = 0 (chklog) CHKDSK DosDevIOCtl(...DSK_LOCKDRIVE...) returned rc = 0 (chklog) CHKDSK ujfs_beginformat() returned rc = 0 (chklog) CHKDSK DosDevIOCtl(...DSK_GETDEVICEPARAMS...) returned rc = 0 (chklog) CHKDSK Primary superblock is valid. (chklog) CHKDSK The type of file system for the disk is JFS. (chklog) CHKDSK The boot sector has been refreshed. CHKDSK Block size in bytes: 4096 (chklog) CHKDSK Block size in bytes: 4096 CHKDSK File system size in blocks: 1048233 (chklog) CHKDSK Filesystem size in blocks: 1048233 CHKDSK *Phase 0 - Replay Journal Log (chklog) CHKDSK **Phase 0 - Replay Journal Log (chklog) CHKDSK:LOGREDO: Journal log is now open. (major = 0x00, minor = 0x00) (chklog) CHKDSK:LOGREDO: Log already redone! (chklog) CHKDSK logredo returned rc = 0 CHKDSK *Phase 1 - Check Blocks, Files/Directories, and Directory Entries (chklog) CHKDSK **Phase 1 - Check Blocks, Files/Directories, and Directory Entries (chklog) CHKDSK Duplicate reference to 1 block(s) beginning at offset 255709 found in file system object FF82259. (chklog) CHKDSK Inode F82259 has references to cross linked blocks. (chklog) CHKDSK File system object FF82259 has corrupt data (39). (chklog) CHKDSK Duplicate reference to 1 block(s) beginning at offset 254591 found in file system object FF82260. (chklog) CHKDSK Inode F82260 has references to cross linked blocks. (chklog) CHKDSK File system object FF82260 has corrupt data (39). (chklog) CHKDSK Duplicate reference to 1 block(s) beginning at offset 255475 found in file system object FF82271. (chklog) CHKDSK Inode F82271 has references to cross linked blocks. (chklog) CHKDSK File system object FF82271 has corrupt data (39). (chklog) CHKDSK Duplicate reference to 1 block(s) beginning at offset 255742 found in file system object FF82277. (chklog) CHKDSK Inode F82277 has references to cross linked blocks. (chklog) CHKDSK Duplicate reference to 1 block(s) beginning at offset 255486 found in file system object FF82277. (chklog) CHKDSK Inode F82277 has references to cross linked blocks. (chklog) CHKDSK File system object FF82277 has corrupt data (39). (chklog) CHKDSK Duplicate reference to 1 block(s) beginning at offset 257515 found in file system object FF82412. (chklog) CHKDSK Inode F82412 has references to cross linked blocks. (chklog) CHKDSK Duplicate reference to 2 block(s) beginning at offset 257530 found in file system object FF82412. (chklog) CHKDSK Inode F82412 has references to cross linked blocks. (chklog) CHKDSK File system object FF82412 has corrupt data (39). (chklog) CHKDSK Duplicate reference to 1 block(s) beginning at offset 258046 found in file system object FF82444. (chklog) CHKDSK Inode F82444 has references to cross linked blocks. (chklog) CHKDSK File system object FF82444 has corrupt data (39). (chklog) CHKDSK Duplicate reference to 1 block(s) beginning at offset 254590 found in file system object FF82554. (chklog) CHKDSK Inode F82554 has references to cross linked blocks. (chklog) CHKDSK File system object FF82554 has corrupt data (39). (chklog) CHKDSK Duplicate reference to 1 block(s) beginning at offset 292638 found in file system object FF87088. (chklog) CHKDSK Inode F87088 has references to cross linked blocks. (chklog) CHKDSK File system object FF87088 has corrupt data (39). (chklog) CHKDSK Duplicate reference to 1 block(s) beginning at offset 292639 found in file system object FF87089. (chklog) CHKDSK Inode F87089 has references to cross linked blocks. (chklog) CHKDSK File system object FF87089 has corrupt data (39). (chklog) CHKDSK Duplicate reference to 1 block(s) beginning at offset 277220 found in file system object FF90256. (chklog) CHKDSK Inode F90256 has references to cross linked blocks. (chklog) CHKDSK File system object FF90256 has corrupt data (39). (chklog) CHKDSK Duplicate reference to 1 block(s) beginning at offset 277221 found in file system object FF90257. (chklog) CHKDSK Inode F90257 has references to cross linked blocks. (chklog) CHKDSK File system object FF90257 has corrupt data (39). (chklog) CHKDSK Duplicate reference to 11 block(s) beginning at offset 298528 found in file system object FF95707. (chklog) CHKDSK Inode F95707 has references to cross linked blocks. (chklog) CHKDSK File system object FF95707 has corrupt data (39). (chklog) CHKDSK Duplicate reference to 1 block(s) beginning at offset 298111 found in file system object FF95708. (chklog) CHKDSK Inode F95708 has references to cross linked blocks. (chklog) CHKDSK File system object FF95708 has corrupt data (39). (chklog) CHKDSK Duplicate reference to 1 block(s) beginning at offset 298511 found in file system object FF95709. (chklog) CHKDSK Inode F95709 has references to cross linked blocks. (chklog) CHKDSK File system object FF95709 has corrupt data (39). (chklog) CHKDSK Duplicate reference to 1 block(s) beginning at offset 1983 found in file system object FF101249. (chklog) CHKDSK Inode F101249 has references to cross linked blocks. (chklog) CHKDSK File system object FF101249 has corrupt data (39). CHKDSK *Phase 2 - Count Links (chklog) CHKDSK **Phase 2 - Count links CHKDSK *Phase 3 - Rescan for Duplicate Blocks and Verify Directory Tree (chklog) CHKDSK **Phase 3 - Duplicate Block Rescan and Directory Connectedness (chklog) CHKDSK Duplicate reference to 1 block(s) beginning at offset 255486 found in file system object FF82196. (chklog) CHKDSK Inode F82196 has references to cross linked blocks. (chklog) CHKDSK Duplicate reference to 1 block(s) beginning at offset 255709 found in file system object FF82196. (chklog) CHKDSK Inode F82196 has references to cross linked blocks. (chklog) CHKDSK Duplicate reference to 1 block(s) beginning at offset 255742 found in file system object FF82196. (chklog) CHKDSK Inode F82196 has references to cross linked blocks. (chklog) CHKDSK Duplicate reference to 1 block(s) beginning at offset 255475 found in file system object FF82198. (chklog) CHKDSK Inode F82198 has references to cross linked blocks. (chklog) CHKDSK Duplicate reference to 1 block(s) beginning at offset 254591 found in file system object FF82199. (chklog) CHKDSK Inode F82199 has references to cross linked blocks. (chklog) CHKDSK processing terminated: 10/23/9920.42.59 with return code: 10081. (chklog) CHKDSK ujfs_redeterminemedia() returned rc = 0 (chklog) CHKDSK DosDevIOCtl(...DSK_UNLOCKDRIVE...) returned rc = 0 (chklog) CHKDSK DosClose returned rc = 0 ============== Bye, Yuri Dario /* * member of TeamOS/2 - Italy * http://www.quasarbbs.com/yuri */ --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: MC-link The World On Line (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: aboritz@cybernex.net 25-Oct-99 12:45:06 To: All 25-Oct-99 21:17:19 Subj: Re: bad netscape 4.61 GA (Strong encrypt version) cache bug From: aboritz@cybernex.net (Alan Boritz) In article , "Mike Ruskai" wrote: >On 23 Oct 1999 20:11:28 GMT, tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu wrote: > >>Mark Schlegel writes: >> >>> The behavior seems to be that if you repeatedly enter some pages then >>> go one level down then return to the main page, eventually when you >>> come to the main page, Netscape will start filling the swapper.dat >>> like crazy. >> >>swapper.dat is not managed by Netscape, but rather by the operating >>system, so I don't know why you're blaming Netscape for the behavior >>you've observed. > >Are you being intentionally daft? What he's saying is that Netscape is >allocating memory, and not freeing it, which is exactly what a program >that wants to fill up swapper.dat must do. Mr. Tholen is apparently another OS/2 nazi, so, yes, he's being intentionally daft. >I very much doubt that he's not spent the minimal effort required to make >sure that Netscape is what's leaking memory. Netscape has a memory leak. Many such memory leaks have been documented during different Netscape releases. I've got the same problem here with the level 5s (9/99) release, along with (less frequent) desktop freezing. Don't waste your time following up his trolling, since the inevitable conclusion will be Mr. Tholen turning very abusive and concluding that since his little OS/2 client system works perfectly, you have to be wrong and that you're terribly evil for spreading such vicious lies, etc., etc. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Dyslexics UNTIE (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: tholenantispam@hawaii.edu 26-Oct-99 05:05:19 To: All 26-Oct-99 05:14:20 Subj: Re: bad netscape 4.61 GA (Strong encrypt version) cache bug From: tholenantispam@hawaii.edu (Dave Tholen) Mark Schlegel writes: >>>>> The behavior seems to be that if you repeatedly enter some pages then >>>>> go one level down then return to the main page, eventually when you >>>>> come to the main page, Netscape will start filling the swapper.dat >>>>> like crazy. >>>> swapper.dat is not managed by Netscape, but rather by the operating >>>> system, so I don't know why you're blaming Netscape for the behavior >>>> you've observed. >>> Hmm, could it be because the second I closed Netscape the swapper.dat >>> shrunk down from 141 Meg to ~60 Meg in just a few minutes? >> It could be. >>> That seems to point to NS being the culprit, right? >> Why didn't you mention that initially? > It's called an oversight, at the time it was obvious to me that netscape > was the culprit for the above reason. Might I suggest that you consider Bennie's hypothesis, namely that it might have to do with Java, rather than Netscape? That could explain why the phenomenon appears to be site dependent. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: IFA B-111 (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: wwilly@one.net 26-Oct-99 07:35:05 To: All 26-Oct-99 10:18:01 Subj: Re: creating bootable floppy diskette From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser In article <381524B1.D21E8DA4@linkline.com>, "Graham C. Norris" wrote: > Bill Wild Willy Kredentser wrote: > > In article <01bf1ecd$98a655f0$4c2b173f@pro>, > > "michael" wrote: > > <<>> > > > Can I create a bootable floppy diskette with OS/2 > > warp 4? > > Yes, but BEFORE you do that, search Deja News on the > > subject of "Create Utility Diskettes." There's > What possible good will that do? He needs *DOS* floppy diskettes! That's no doubt true, but there is some good. It's prodded me to post the following, to add to the dozens, perhaps hundreds......... I finally got around to running Create Utility Diskettes under FP12. It doesn't work worth a %#*$!!!! Well, it doesn't work any better than it ever has under the past what? 3 or 4 FPs? After creating diskette 0 well enough, it spent at least 30 minutes, maybe 45 trying to create diskette 1. I got 2 popup messages saying it had failed to copy CONFIG.SYS & CONFIG.X (nothing important), and eventually just closed with yet another one of these: 10-26-1999 01:37:46 SYS3175 PID 0037 TID 0002 Slot 005c F:\OS2\INSTALL\BOOTDISK.EXE c0000005 00013323 P1=00000001 P2=00000000 P3=XXXXXXXX P4=XXXXXXXX EAX=00000000 EBX=00000016 ECX=00000000 EDX=ffffffff ESI=0002150a EDI=00022ce4 DS=0053 DSACC=d0f3 DSLIM=1fffffff ES=0053 ESACC=d0f3 ESLIM=1fffffff FS=150b FSACC=00f3 FSLIM=00000030 GS=0000 GSACC=**** GSLIM=******** CS:EIP=005b:00013323 CSACC=d0df CSLIM=1fffffff SS:ESP=0053:00e03f8c SSACC=d0f3 SSLIM=1fffffff EBP=00e03fe4 FLG=00012246 BOOTDISK.EXE 0001:00003323 Diskette 1 at that point contained 4 files totalling about 40K. Great, huh? At least it's different from what used to happen. Let's call it progress. The workaround is the same as it's ever been: rename AIC7870.ADD (the big pig) to anything else. Or move it to another directory than its normal home in OS2\BOOT. Then run the utility. THAT works fine, creating all 4 diskettes in maybe 15 minutes, including formatting them. (Then, of course, undo your workaround for AIC7870.ADD.) Of course, this is no help to people who actually NEED this driver. For you, it STILL takes manual intervention to get this working. Oddities I noted. COUNTRY.SYS from FP12 is dated March 15, 1999 but from FP11 it was dated April 13, 1999. I'm not seeing any symptoms, but that is a bit weird. From what it says in the README.1ST for FP12, this appears to be correct, however weird it may be. The 4th diskette is one I always make a couple of changes to. First, I add ATTRIB.EXE. I'm sure everybody has their own favorite additions to put on diskette 4. Second, there is a bug in what gets put on it. This is a bug I have reported for at least 5 Fix Packs now, if not more. RESTORE.EXE is not the current one. Every other file on all 4 diskettes gets copied from my hard drive (when appropriate), but RESTORE.EXE for some reason just isn't. So I do it manually. And after all of that, the diskettes do boot up fine. WW Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT! Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Team OS/2 Cincinnati (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: tholenantispam@hawaii.edu 26-Oct-99 13:56:19 To: All 26-Oct-99 14:37:12 Subj: Re: OT Re: bad netscape 4.61 GA (Strong encrypt version) cache bug From: tholenantispam@hawaii.edu (Dave Tholen) Tony Wright writes: > here's a classic DT textbook reply, predictably daft, Still behaving like a first class jerk, I see. > Juvenile - agreed. Hope you enjoyed wasting all the time you spent writing. I didn't bother to read it. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: IFA B-111 (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: horseman@ibm.net 26-Oct-99 01:09:08 To: All 26-Oct-99 14:37:12 Subj: OT Re: bad netscape 4.61 GA (Strong encrypt version) cache bug From: Tony Wright Mike to DT> > >>> Are you being intentionally daft? > Tony to DT> > > .......and as you're no doubt about to ably demonstrate further, > > his was obviously a rhetorical question anyway..... > > So in the unlikely event you can remain on topic and actually post > > a competent technical reply in a valid context for once, how does: > > ----snipped----- Perfect! ..... (I wish the lottery was that easy to predict)...so here's a classic DT textbook reply, predictably daft, no attempt to remain on topic, no technical content and thus completely true to character Quod errant demonstrandum : Dave Tholen wrote: > I see you're in the same category. > Obviously not. > Insults will get you nowhere. > Irrelevant. > It's not the first time I've dealt with your insulting behvaior. > How ironic, given that I was engaged in a technical discussion until > Mike and you came along. Naturally, you try to place the onus on me. Pardon us, we didn't realise it was your personal and private oratory platform....... Can't answer for MR but until then I had naively assumed it was a public forum and therefore invited technical corrections as well as contributions by default.... :-( > I have not participated in any other thread on the topic of swapper.dat > and its interaction with Navigator, Tony. Same topic and main thread but different sub-threads...... but if your browser does not have that "threading" capability or you don't have the ability to use it, then I'm sorry for causing you any confusion..... However, you could at least exercise some "social responsibility" by placing an OT prefix on subject line if you had no intention of making any technical statement.... I'm sure the majority seeking genuine technical enlightenment have no wish to be unintentionally distracted by my verbiage let alone your banally repetitive drivel...... > Then why are you responding to me? So you can satisfy some juvenile > need of yours to toss around a barrel of insults? Juvenile - agreed. However, sometimes in a futile attempt to effect "communication" one is often tempted to "pitch" at a level commensurate with the intended recipient. Somewhat selective response on the content though? Appears you can only relate to a few frivolous insults and fail totally to either comprehend or are possibly incapable of elaborating on anything technically orientated.... I genuinely thought for a moment you might have a valid point cleverly disguised under your original "irrelevant" statement but you chose not to seize the opportunity by elaborating... so I obviously over-estimated both your ability and your knowledge again. :-( > I have no intention of trying to have a technical discussion with you. Pity - as one or both of us might have learnt something..... :-( > You obviously can't control that temper of yours. Oh don't flatter yourself! That pre-supposes any post of yours is received with some emotion other than despair when it starts to inevitably deviate from the technical topic..... If there was even some attempt at wit,editorial flair, eloquence or originality in your otherwise insipid responses then some other emotion may indeed be generated even if you couldn't actually promote an "interest" due to a different or original perspective on a technical topic. Just for a fleeting moment it seemed there might have been a hidden "spark" and (just practising my "firelighter" skills for Nov 5 ) with some further encouragement on the topic of the "swapper/cache", a resulting "star-burst" revelation from yourself might just have redeemed some of your "daftness".... Personally there's no "anger" or "uncontrolled rage" required to light your blue touch paper and launch you into LEO..... notwithstanding the fact that most of your retorts are predictably on a par with a damp squid and just about as technically illuminating ... > You are a first class jerk, do you know that, Tony? > Tch tch...not a very imaginative insult(where does that scale relative to a 3rd rate "dafty" I wonder?) - but Mike is right, if your that upset and unable to contribute any technical exchange without getting hopelessly distracted by a few trivial banalities then further attempts to promote a technical discourse are obviously futile. As it therefore appears we're not going to get any technical enlightenment on the original serious question of memory leakage from your direction, we are indeed better off not encouraging you further (until perhaps your next attempted "venture" into "irrelevancy" that is!). In meantime I trust this "digression" and your demonstratable propensity to "seed" non technical arguments into every other discussion haven't "polluted" too many other "sub threads" on this particular topic and original poster does indeed receive far more appropriate and useful technical feedback. -- Rgds Tony W Email: horseman@ibm.net Portsmouth-Hampshire-UK "humanum est errare: To err is human .... and to fail is to be a Project Manager... ...but to foul things up completely needs a computer!" --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Equi-Tek CompCon (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca 26-Oct-99 16:26:24 To: All 26-Oct-99 16:34:06 Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory From: lsunley@mb.sympatico.ca (Lorne Sunley) This isn't much of an idea, and you probably have tried it, but here it is anyway (actually it's a question), have you determined what the break point is in allocating larger buffer pools, like 32 MByte, 64 MByte etc? My test and development system is running WSeB and DB2 v6.1 (on a crummy 128 MByte RAM) so I can't even make an attempt to see if the large pool allocation failure happens. Lorne Sunley On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:39:01, dwilliams9494@my-deja.com wrote: > Thanks, Scott and Lorne. We have an OS/2 guru of sorts who helped us > configure HPFS386 to use an optimal cache size. > > But the problem isn't that we're running out of available memory - it's > that DB2 isn't using it. Memstat is sitting there telling us we have > 429 MB of available RAM (after DB2 startup, HPFS cache allocation, > etc), but we take the same configuration and ask for a total of 50,000 > pages (200 MB) of bufferpool and we don't get it. If we run this > configuration under Warp workstation, it works just fine. > > It's like Warp Server is limiting the amount of memory it'll give to > running programs. > > Any ideas? > > In article , > "Scott E. Garfinkle" wrote: > > On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 18:07:04 GMT, Lorne Sunley wrote: > > > > >> Is there a known problem with Warp Server making large (e.g., > 64 > > >> MB) > > >> > > of memory available to programs, such as DB2? > > Lorne is right -- it's probably hpfs386. In hpfs386.ini, add a line > that > > reads > > maxheap=2048 > > Also, if you're running commserver, look for a line in config.sys > that looks > > like > > DEVICE=C:\CMLIB\CMKFMDE.SYS > > If you find it, change it to look like > > DEVICE=C:\CMLIB\CMKFMDE.SYS /lsl=2m > > If this works, try 8m for better performance and see whether it still > works. > > > > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: MBnet Networking Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: andrie@attglobal.net 25-Oct-99 22:56:12 To: All 26-Oct-99 16:34:06 Subj: Re: winos2 fullscreen - no mouse pointer From: "Hans Andrieáen" andy schrieb: > > winos2 seamless works fine on my system, but > > when I try to bring it up fullscreen, there is no > > mousepointer. > > > > Anyone know how to bring the pointer back? > Look into your config.sys if this driver is mentioned. > > DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VMOUSE.SYS > > Identifies and loads the mouse driver to let you use a mouse > with DOS. Mouse support for OS/2 is loaded below. Also the same could be happend if the graphics-driver in external Windows is different state/version, or the resolution is different whitch is used in OS/2 Bye/2 Hans --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: seg@NOSPAM-us.ibm.com 26-Oct-99 13:02:07 To: All 26-Oct-99 16:34:06 Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory From: "Scott E. Garfinkle" On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:39:01 GMT, dwilliams9494@my-deja.com wrote: >But the problem isn't that we're running out of available memory - it's >that DB2 isn't using it. Memstat is sitting there telling us we have >429 MB of available RAM (after DB2 startup, HPFS cache allocation, I guarantee you that it IS a case of memory allocation, somehow. Please check the parameters I suggested. I doubt that memstat is telling you anything meaningful. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: NCSD OS/2 Service (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: mgreene@exis.net 26-Oct-99 15:46:26 To: All 26-Oct-99 20:25:01 Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory From: "Michael K Greene" On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 13:53:58 GMT, dwilliams9494@my-deja.com wrote: >When we installed Warp 4.0 workstation on the same PC with the same >database version, the problem went away and it all worked fine. > >Is there a known problem with Warp Server making large (e.g., > 64 MB) >of memory available to programs, such as DB2? I'm not a Lan Server expert, but I found this a bit back and maybe it is an option. If not it would allow you to down to the Warp 3 base. http://www.sbt.net.au/sbt/WServeronW4/0000fm.htm >Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ >Before you buy. Michael K Greene | OS/2 Warp / Linux / Win95-311 --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Exis Net Inc (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: aboritz@cybernex.net 26-Oct-99 09:48:05 To: All 26-Oct-99 20:25:02 Subj: Re: bad netscape 4.61 GA (Strong encrypt version) cache bug From: aboritz@cybernex.net (Alan Boritz) In article <7v3cr2$53v$1@news.hawaii.edu>, tholenantispam@hawaii.edu (Dave Tholen) wrote: >Mark Schlegel writes: > >>>>>> The behavior seems to be that if you repeatedly enter some pages then >>>>>> go one level down then return to the main page, eventually when you >>>>>> come to the main page, Netscape will start filling the swapper.dat >>>>>> like crazy. > >>>>> swapper.dat is not managed by Netscape, but rather by the operating >>>>> system, so I don't know why you're blaming Netscape for the behavior >>>>> you've observed. > >>>> Hmm, could it be because the second I closed Netscape the swapper.dat >>>> shrunk down from 141 Meg to ~60 Meg in just a few minutes? > >>> It could be. > >>>> That seems to point to NS being the culprit, right? > >>> Why didn't you mention that initially? > >> It's called an oversight, at the time it was obvious to me that netscape >> was the culprit for the above reason. > >Might I suggest that you consider Bennie's hypothesis, namely that it >might have to do with Java, rather than Netscape? That could explain >why the phenomenon appears to be site dependent. Not likely. I run almost always with Java and Javascript disabled and it continues here, too. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Dyslexics UNTIE (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: mr_ace@gmx.de 26-Oct-99 21:11:10 To: All 26-Oct-99 20:25:02 Subj: Netscape 4.04 freezes System From: mr_ace@gmx.de Hi folks! 5 Minutes ago, I had a real System hang (not even the mouse cursor was moving), while loading a web page which started java (1.1.8), Warp4, FP7 I had several other programs running, i.g. ICQ for java which transferred a big file, FTP server with users logged in... This went ok until I loaded this particular webpage. Java 1.1.8 seems to have some bugs! Is there a fix available?? Thanxx in advance! Andi --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: University of Karlsruhe (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: schlegel@crocker.com 26-Oct-99 18:21:19 To: All 26-Oct-99 21:24:08 Subj: Re: bad netscape 4.61 GA (Strong encrypt version) cache bug From: "Mark O. Schlegel" Dave Tholen wrote: > > Mark Schlegel writes: > >>> That seems to point to NS being the culprit, right? > > >> Why didn't you mention that initially? > > > It's called an oversight, at the time it was obvious to me that netscape > > was the culprit for the above reason. > > Might I suggest that you consider Bennie's hypothesis, namely that it > might have to do with Java, rather than Netscape? That could explain > why the phenomenon appears to be site dependent. I had Java turned off in the Advanced panel and http://computing.net/os2/wwwboard/wwwboard.html doesn't use java (that's the page where I had the problem occur when I did a Back to the main page) Mark --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Lab, Lau (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bv@mail.bv.no 26-Oct-99 20:40:18 To: All 26-Oct-99 21:24:08 Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo dwilliams9494@my-deja.com wrote: > ... > But the problem isn't that we're running out of available memory - it's > that DB2 isn't using it. Memstat is sitting there telling us we have > 429 MB of available RAM (after DB2 startup, HPFS cache allocation, > etc), but we take the same configuration and ask for a total of 50,000 > pages (200 MB) of bufferpool and we don't get it. If we run this > configuration under Warp workstation, it works just fine. > > It's like Warp Server is limiting the amount of memory it'll give to > running programs. > > Any ideas? > It is a long time since I last installed DB/2 and I do not remember the important issues, but maybe you should look at the install log? Perhaps something did not go quite as it should, but still works on the client? A tiny misplaced comma or semicolon in a config file or installation script? Other ways to isolate the cause: Install the server software on the Warp 3 client where it works, but do not install 386 HPFS. Does this work? If yes, install 386 HPFS. That should be identical to your server. If it works, you have somehow removed the cause of the problem. If not, you have pinpointed it. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Norbionics (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lifedata@xxvol.com 26-Oct-99 17:36:21 To: All 26-Oct-99 21:24:09 Subj: Re: READ THIS: creating bootable floppy diskette From: lifedata@xxvol.com Regarding making up the utility disks and the AIC problem, Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser said: >The workaround is the same as it's ever been: rename >AIC7870.ADD (the big pig) to anything else. Or move >it to another directory than its normal home in >OS2\BOOT. Then run the utility. THAT works fine, >creating all 4 diskettes in maybe 15 minutes, >including formatting them. IT WORKS!! I renamed AIC7870ADD. It apparently forces the program to load the small version from CD, giving it working room. My utility disks work now! Now if I could get Bootos2 to work..... It stalls with a "Disk full" error when I use the 2DISK switch and the source=[hard drive] switch. Jim L Remove XX from address to Email Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: maxikins@os2bbs.com 26-Oct-99 21:53:02 To: All 26-Oct-99 21:24:09 Subj: Re: creating bootable floppy diskette From: maxikins@os2bbs.com (Mark Klebanoff) On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:31:31, Irv Spalten wrote: > I've seen reports of failures to create the diskettes. Have you checked > "Use files from the hard disk if they exist"? If you didn't, it has > always worked. Check it and it failed after FP 9 or 10, forgot which, > but WAS supposed to be fixed under FP 12. > I did check use files from hard drive. When I checked, the July 99 version of ibm1s506.add was on the floppy, so I know it worked. FWIW the config sys had a device driver rem'd out, and that driver wasn't on the floppy. Maybe something in the routine was smart enough to delete an unneeded file? --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Verio (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: cotroneo@stny.rr.com 26-Oct-99 22:59:01 To: All 26-Oct-99 21:24:09 Subj: Re: winos2 fullscreen - no mouse pointer From: cotroneo@stny.rr.com In <38151858.BD3FF913@attglobal.net>, "Hans Andrießen" writes: >andy schrieb: > >> > winos2 seamless works fine on my system, but >> > when I try to bring it up fullscreen, there is no >> > mousepointer. >> > >> > Anyone know how to bring the pointer back? > >> Look into your config.sys if this driver is mentioned. >> >> DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VMOUSE.SYS >> >> Identifies and loads the mouse driver to let you use a mouse >> with DOS. Mouse support for OS/2 is loaded below. This devices driver statement is there. The mouse works fine seamlessly, just not in full screen. > >Also the same could be happend if the graphics-driver >in external Windows is different state/version, or the >resolution is different whitch is used in OS/2 > Don't know how to check this. My external windows is win95 not 3.1. Resolution in win95 is the same. How do I check the state/version? Keith Cotroneo cotroneo@stny.rr.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Time Warner Road Runner - Binghamton NY (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: dcasey@ibm.net 26-Oct-99 19:03:04 To: All 26-Oct-99 21:24:09 Subj: Re: FixPack on diskette??? From: dcasey@ibm.net (Dan Casey) In article <3815a930.0@news>, "David Johnston" wrote: >I downloaded & applied FP12. I could see no obvious way to load the fp onto >a cd (then apply from cd). I was forced to used the 17 (I think) diskettes >which seems absolutely archaic. Am I missing something? Is there a way to >copy all the files to cd then run the fp from cd? There is a method documented on the VOICE website (http://www.os2voice.org) that deals with applying Fixpaks from downloaded IMAGE or ZIP files. Follow the instructions (follow the link to EZ Reference) and then simply burn the results to a CD. Worked for me :-) -- ************************************************************** * Dan Casey * * President * * V.O.I.C.E. (Virtual OS/2 International Consumer Education * * http://www.os2voice.org * * Abraxas on IRC * * http://members.iquest.net/~dcasey * * Charter Associate member, Team SETI * * Warpstock 99 in Atlanta http://www.warpstock.org * ************************************************************** * E-Mail (subject: Req. PGP Key) for Public Key * ************************************************************** --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: V.O.I.C.E., Indianapolis, IN (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: dwilliams9494@my-deja.com 26-Oct-99 15:39:00 To: All 26-Oct-99 21:24:09 Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory From: dwilliams9494@my-deja.com Thanks, Scott and Lorne. We have an OS/2 guru of sorts who helped us configure HPFS386 to use an optimal cache size. But the problem isn't that we're running out of available memory - it's that DB2 isn't using it. Memstat is sitting there telling us we have 429 MB of available RAM (after DB2 startup, HPFS cache allocation, etc), but we take the same configuration and ask for a total of 50,000 pages (200 MB) of bufferpool and we don't get it. If we run this configuration under Warp workstation, it works just fine. It's like Warp Server is limiting the amount of memory it'll give to running programs. Any ideas? In article , "Scott E. Garfinkle" wrote: > On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 18:07:04 GMT, Lorne Sunley wrote: > > >> Is there a known problem with Warp Server making large (e.g., > 64 > >> MB) > >> > > of memory available to programs, such as DB2? > Lorne is right -- it's probably hpfs386. In hpfs386.ini, add a line that > reads > maxheap=2048 > Also, if you're running commserver, look for a line in config.sys that looks > like > DEVICE=C:\CMLIB\CMKFMDE.SYS > If you find it, change it to look like > DEVICE=C:\CMLIB\CMKFMDE.SYS /lsl=2m > If this works, try 8m for better performance and see whether it still works. > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: tholenantispam@hawaii.edu 27-Oct-99 01:06:20 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:10 Subj: Re: bad netscape 4.61 GA (Strong encrypt version) cache bug From: tholenantispam@hawaii.edu (Dave Tholen) Alan Boritz writes: >> Mark Schlegel writes: >>>>>>> The behavior seems to be that if you repeatedly enter some pages then >>>>>>> go one level down then return to the main page, eventually when you >>>>>>> come to the main page, Netscape will start filling the swapper.dat >>>>>>> like crazy. >>>>>> swapper.dat is not managed by Netscape, but rather by the operating >>>>>> system, so I don't know why you're blaming Netscape for the behavior >>>>>> you've observed. >>>>> Hmm, could it be because the second I closed Netscape the swapper.dat >>>>> shrunk down from 141 Meg to ~60 Meg in just a few minutes? >>>> It could be. >>>>> That seems to point to NS being the culprit, right? >>>> Why didn't you mention that initially? >>> It's called an oversight, at the time it was obvious to me that netscape >>> was the culprit for the above reason. >> Might I suggest that you consider Bennie's hypothesis, namely that it >> might have to do with Java, rather than Netscape? That could explain >> why the phenomenon appears to be site dependent. > Not likely. I run almost always with Java and Javascript disabled and it > continues here, too. Quite a change in tone from your last missive. Glad to see you're contributing information, rather than invective. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: IFA B-111 (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: tholenantispam@hawaii.edu 27-Oct-99 01:11:19 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:11 Subj: Re: bad netscape 4.61 GA (Strong encrypt version) cache bug From: tholenantispam@hawaii.edu (Dave Tholen) Mark Schlegel writes: >>>>> That seems to point to NS being the culprit, right? >>>> Why didn't you mention that initially? >>> It's called an oversight, at the time it was obvious to me that netscape >>> was the culprit for the above reason. >> Might I suggest that you consider Bennie's hypothesis, namely that it >> might have to do with Java, rather than Netscape? That could explain >> why the phenomenon appears to be site dependent. > I had Java turned off in the Advanced panel and > http://computing.net/os2/wwwboard/wwwboard.html > doesn't use java (that's the page where I had the problem occur when I did > a Back to the main page) Did you try toggling the load images item, as suggested by somebody else? --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: IFA B-111 (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: mcmorran@norfolk.infi.net 26-Oct-99 20:25:03 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:11 Subj: Re: Netscape Dowload Problems - Solution(??) From: mcmorran@norfolk.infi.net (Peter McMorran) In <3814C9F9.CC8DB2C3@wcom.com>, on 10/25/99 at 09:30 PM, Will Honea said: >Doug Bissett wrote: >> >> On Mon, 25 Oct 1999 06:01:31, whonea@codenet.net (Will Honea) wrote: >> >> > Gotta be sneaky. Start an ftp d/l then use CTL-ALT-T to get a popup >> > with the full URL, including the password. Copy that to the AWGet URL >> > (manually or with DragText and off it goes. You can then abort the NS >> > d/l. >> > >> > Will Honea >> > >> >> You had better abort the NS download, before you let AWget/Wget start >> downloading (unless it is putting it in a different directory), or you >> could end up really confusing things... >Did I forget to mention that? . Actually, because I have >Wget using it's own unique folder this only happened once. As >it turns out, the two d/l's actually managed to sort it out and >Wget finished after I canceled NS. Not a recommended operation >tho - thanks for mentioning it. Actually, you can be even trickier and preserve the partially downloaded file. Just wait for the Nescape download to die. Then wget -c http://.... in the directory containing the partial file. wget then picks up where Netscape left off. Cheers, Peter -- ----------------------------------------------------------- mcmorran@norfolk.infi.net (Peter McMorran) ----------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: InfiNet (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: ilya@math.ohio-state.edu 27-Oct-99 00:25:20 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:11 Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory From: ilya@math.ohio-state.edu (Ilya Zakharevich) [A complimentary Cc of this posting was sent to ], who wrote in article <7v4hul$5ue$1@nnrp1.deja.com>: > But the problem isn't that we're running out of available memory - it's > that DB2 isn't using it. Memstat is sitting there telling us we have > 429 MB of available RAM (after DB2 startup, HPFS cache allocation, > etc), but we take the same configuration and ask for a total of 50,000 > pages (200 MB) of bufferpool and we don't get it. If we run this > configuration under Warp workstation, it works just fine. No wonder! You should have started with this. You cannot have more than circa 220M of virtual memory allocated by an application (at least with the "standard" setup). Some people claim that tweaking things a bit here and a bit there moves this boundary, but only a tiny bit. This is the part of "640K should be enough for anything" mentality which is hardwired into the way OS/2 memory manager works. I have seen claims that WSeB lifts this barrier *a lot*, but you need a special option to DosAllocMem() (sp?), and the allocated addresses are (probably?) useless as arguments to many system calls (those which go through 16bit calls). Ilya P.S. Again, it is virtual memory, so it has nothing to do with the amount of "free" memory on your system (whatever this might mean). --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State Univers (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: mircomir@lica.unimo.it 26-Oct-99 15:25:19 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:11 Subj: Re: FixPack on diskette??? From: Mirco Miranda David Johnston wrote: > I downloaded & applied FP12. I could see no obvious way to load the fp onto > a cd (then apply from cd). I was forced to used the 17 (I think) diskettes > which seems absolutely archaic. Am I missing something? Is there a way to > copy all the files to cd then run the fp from cd? > > Thanks! > > David Johnston > The Members Group See on hobbes (http://hobbes.nmsu.edu) There are program like SimplyFix (or similar) Bye, Mirco. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: CINECA (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: whonea@codenet.net 26-Oct-99 20:10:22 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:11 Subj: Re: FixPack on diskette??? From: whonea@codenet.net (Will Honea) On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:33:58, Irv Spalten wrote: Irv, the QF11 program contains a substitute for LOADDSKF call DSKXTRCT which greatly simplifies this unpacking by writing the image data directly to the hard drive, paths and all. It also includes more error checking than LOADDSKF and will handle most of the image generation revisions. I used to get really iritated when trying to unpack disk images from the LAN group when they used a version of SAVEDSKF that only their very old version of LOADDSKF would work with (good luck finding it!). Of course, being IBM you can't suggest this alternate program but you might find the info useful . > Documented in the FixTool READ.ME file, section 6 : > > =========== > Section 6. How to Set Up the FixTool for Remote Installation > > To speed up FixPak installation or to setup a FixPak on a LAN drive > for use by others (Redirected Install), follow these steps. > > Before you begin, it is recommended that you install a Virtual Floppy > Disk > program such as SVDISK (Super Virtual Disk) or VFDISK (Virtual Floppy > Disk). > > In the following examples, d: is the working drive and j: is the > Virtual > Floppy drive. Replace this with the drive letters you use. Also in > these > examples, XR_W035 is the FixPak name. > > First, setup a directory to hold the FixTool code. For example, > run the following to place the FixTool into the d:\csf directory. > > | cs_141.exe d:\csf > > Next, setup the FixPak directory using the diskette images. > > loaddskf xr_w035.1dk j: /f/y/q > xcopy j: d:\xr_w035\ /h/o/t/s/e/r/v > loaddskf xr_w035.2dk j: /f/y/q > xcopy j: d:\xr_w035\ /h/o/t/s/e/r/v > ... > ... > ... > > Install the FixPak by running service.exe. > > set csfutilpath=d:\csf > set csfcdromdir=d:\xr_w035 > d: > cd csf > service (or start service) > > You can also apply service by running fservice.exe with a response > file. > > d: > cd csf > fservice /r:d:\csf\response.wp3 /s:d:\xr_w035 > > This will apply the FixPak to all serviceable partitions. If you want > to make the response file specific to a partition (drive) then you > need > to change the :SYSLEVEL and :ARCHIVE lines in response.wp3: > > :SYSLEVEL \OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.OS2 > :ARCHIVE \ARCHIVE > > -- should be changed to -- > > :SYSLEVEL x:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.OS2 > :ARCHIVE x:\ARCHIVE > > where x: is the drive you want serviced. > =================== Will Honea --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: wellmet@attglobal.net 26-Oct-99 19:34:04 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:14 Subj: Re: bad netscape 4.61 GA (Strong encrypt version) cache bug From: wellmet@attglobal.net (Joe Kovacs) In <7ut4pg$nc1$1@news.hawaii.edu>, tholen@ifa.hawaii.edu writes: >Mark Schlegel writes: > >> The behavior seems to be that if you repeatedly enter some pages then >> go one level down then return to the main page, eventually when you >> come to the main page, Netscape will start filling the swapper.dat >> like crazy. > >swapper.dat is not managed by Netscape, but rather by the operating >system, so I don't know why you're blaming Netscape for the behavior >you've observed. What an odd posting. Hm. It wouldn't be that we're getting close to something, would it. What is the extra memory for? What's done with it? Joe Joe Kovacs Guelph Ontario Canada Joe Kovacs Guelph Ontario Canada --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Water Utilities Hydraulic Analysis (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: tholenantispam@hawaii.edu 27-Oct-99 02:32:21 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:14 Subj: Re: bad netscape 4.61 GA (Strong encrypt version) cache bug From: tholenantispam@hawaii.edu (Dave Tholen) Joe Kovacs writes: >> Mark Schlegel writes: >>> The behavior seems to be that if you repeatedly enter some pages then >>> go one level down then return to the main page, eventually when you >>> come to the main page, Netscape will start filling the swapper.dat >>> like crazy. >> swapper.dat is not managed by Netscape, but rather by the operating >> system, so I don't know why you're blaming Netscape for the behavior >> you've observed. > What an odd posting. Hm. What's odd about it? I've been reading the OS/2 newsgroups since they were created. I've seen numerous reports of swapper.dat not shrinking, with complaints that the latest FixPak (at the time) didn't solve the problem. Meanwhile, I've not observed the problem with Netscape. So, what's allegedly odd about my posting? > It wouldn't be that we're getting close to something, would it. Talk about odd postings! Exactly what are you trying to suggest here? > What is the extra memory for? What's done with it? Could you be more specific? --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: IFA B-111 (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com 27-Oct-99 04:03:25 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:14 Subj: Re: bad netscape 4.61 GA (Strong encrypt version) cache bug From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" Mark, Here's a few items of note regarding this problem... (1) It doesn't appear to have to do with going back and forth between those pages. Just loading the page http://computing.net/windowsnt/wwwboard/wwwboard.html will cause the problem. (2) Having image-loading turned off is a key factor; turning on the automatic-load-images setting makes the page load just fine. (3) Those pages have large tables (the one on the page I listed above has 532 rows and 4 columns, so that's over 2000 cells), and the table is set up to have equal row heights, so the entire table must be calculated before anything can be displayed. (4) It's not an infinite loop, but it is looping through each of those cells and allocating a "delayed image" construct for the deferred load of the image into each cell, among other things. After a while, this will load into the swapper and slow it down more and more.... taking a VERY long time to complete. (5) This problem happens on the Windows 4.61 as well. Jeffrey S. Kobal IBM Corporation Mark Schlegel wrote: > The behavior seems to be that if you repeatedly enter some pages then > go one level down then return to the main page, eventually when you > come to the main page, Netscape will start filling the swapper.dat > like crazy. This occured to me on pages > http://computing.net/os2/wwwboard/wwwboard.html > and > http://computing.net/unix/wwwboard/wwwboard.html > > This occured when I was reading posts in each page then clicking the > Back button > to return to the menu of post subjects, swapping took my swapper.dat > from > 40Meg to 141 Meg in just a few minutes and I was able to kill netscape > by Control+esc and then selecting Close. There is no popuplog entry > because it's not a trap but some kind of infinite code loop going on. > I have a feeling this happens on pages that lots of single line entries > each of which has an icon on the start of it (like conputing.net has) > > The only thing unusual with my netscape is that I have Auto loading of > images turned off.... [snip] --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: wwilly@one.net 27-Oct-99 03:41:11 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:14 Subj: Re: creating bootable floppy diskette From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser In article <3815D763.E7545C3B@us.ibm.com>, Irv Spalten wrote: > I've seen reports of failures to create the diskettes. Have you checked > "Use files from the hard disk if they exist"? If you didn't, <<>> I always have it checked. Leaving it off doesn't seem like worth the bother. I mean, I already have the original install diskettes. If you don't check the box, that's about all you'll get out of Create Utility Diskettes, it seems to me. (I know it's not EXACTLY the same, but to me, the whole point of the utility is to get the latest drivers onto bootable diskettes. Personally, I think what the utility does should be what happens when the box is checked & the option shouldn't even be there.) Thanks for looking into this, Irv. > Mark Klebanoff wrote: > > On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 07:35:10, Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser > > wrote: <<>> WW Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT! Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Team OS/2 Cincinnati (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: wwilly@one.net 27-Oct-99 04:05:13 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:14 Subj: Re: Backing out FP12 From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser In article <381628f3$1$zpunffba$mr2ice@news3.ibm.net>, mchasson@ibm.net wrote: > In <7v136i$mg2$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, on 10/25/99 at 08:08 AM, > Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser said: <<>> > >It > >means that if you have a multi-OS system, C > >absolutely must be either FAT16 or HPFS, not FAT32 or > >NTFS or . . . . . . <<>> > Which C partition, or are you inferentially implying that one must have at > least one FAT C partition. I'm not inferring or implying anything. I'm saying it straight out. A C partition must be visible when you run the Fix Tool because it writes on C. Primary or not I don't think matters. I'm not sure, but I would think it doesn't matter. FAT16 & HPFS are the only file systems that are built into WARP 4 client. I know HPFS386 & JFS are also native OS/2 file systems, but I have no experience with them. There are also drivers or installable file systems out there that give OS/2 access to . . . what's it called? The UNIX file structure. And I vaguely recall reading something about some of the Virus9x & VirusNT file systems being implemented in OS/2 drivers or installable file systems. But I have no experience with them either. If anybody reading this can add to the knowledge base here, please do. Can Fix Tool write on UNIX or NTFS or FAT32 or VFAT or ??? file system C drives given the appropriate add-on software? And what about HPFS386 & JFS? WW Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT! Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Team OS/2 Cincinnati (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: wwilly@one.net 27-Oct-99 04:30:03 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:14 Subj: Re: FixPack on diskette??? From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser In article <3815D7F6.ACF5B553@us.ibm.com>, Irv Spalten wrote: <<>> > Before you begin, it is recommended that you install a Virtual Floppy > Disk > program such as SVDISK (Super Virtual Disk) or VFDISK (Virtual Floppy > Disk). <<>> But Irv, what about my way? You don't need any virtual floppy driver. And my script is almost the same as the one in the instructions. What's the matter with my way? Is there some rule my way violates? Sure, it's not a totally hands-free approach, but it has the HUGE benefit of allowing you to apply a Fix Pack when your modem (modems, Irv, remember those? <:-)) ) isn't busy downloading megs & megs of software at the excruciatingly slow speed permitted by phone lines. Phone lines that many of us can't get to connect much faster than 20000baud. Phone lines that have the nasty habit of disconnecting in the middle of multi-meg downloads. Come to think of it, I've known high-speed leased Internet connections to drop conversations in mid-download, too. Please comment on my approach, Irv. It's posted on this thread just in front of your post. > David Johnston wrote: <<>> WW Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT! Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Team OS/2 Cincinnati (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: wwilly@one.net 27-Oct-99 04:31:15 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:14 Subj: Re: FixPack on diskette??? From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser In article <3815D7F6.ACF5B553@us.ibm.com>, Irv Spalten wrote: <<>> > Before you begin, it is recommended that you install a Virtual Floppy > Disk > program such as SVDISK (Super Virtual Disk) or VFDISK (Virtual Floppy > Disk). <<>> But Irv, what about my way? You don't need any virtual floppy driver. And my script is almost the same as the one in the instructions. What's the matter with my way? Is there some rule my way violates? Sure, it's not a totally hands-free approach, but it has the HUGE benefit of allowing you to apply a Fix Pack when your modem (modems, Irv, remember those? <:-)) ) isn't busy downloading megs & megs of software at the excruciatingly slow speed permitted by phone lines. Phone lines that many of us can't get to connect much faster than 20000baud. Phone lines that have the nasty habit of disconnecting in the middle of multi-meg downloads. Come to think of it, I've known high-speed leased Internet connections to drop conversations in mid-download, too. Please comment on my approach, Irv. It's posted on this thread just in front of your post. > David Johnston wrote: <<>> WW Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT! Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Team OS/2 Cincinnati (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: kris@dgraph.com 27-Oct-99 01:20:09 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:15 Subj: Re: bad netscape 4.61 GA (Strong encrypt version) cache bug From: Kris Kadela "Jeffrey S. Kobal" wrote: > > Mark, > > Here's a few items of note regarding this problem... > > (1) It doesn't appear to have to do with going back and forth > between those pages. Just loading the page > http://computing.net/windowsnt/wwwboard/wwwboard.html > will cause the problem. > > (2) Having image-loading turned off is a key factor; turning > on the automatic-load-images setting makes the page load > just fine. > > (3) Those pages have large tables (the one on the page I > listed above has 532 rows and 4 columns, so that's over > 2000 cells), and the table is set up to have equal row heights, > so the entire table must be calculated before anything can be > displayed. > > (4) It's not an infinite loop, but it is looping through each of > those cells and allocating a "delayed image" construct for the > deferred load of the image into each cell, among other things. > After a while, this will load into the swapper and slow it down > more and more.... taking a VERY long time to complete. > > (5) This problem happens on the Windows 4.61 as well. > > Jeffrey S. Kobal > IBM Corporation > Bad design. Those pages should be broken up. Folder images lack size attributes. On my Win box (K62 300, Communicator 4.7) it took 36 seconds to render the page after it finished loading On my OS/2 box (P166, Communicator 4.61) it took 48 seconds to render (not bad actuaaly compared with above) I design web sites and would have never allowed a page of this size to be generated. They should limit the number of records returned per page. > Mark Schlegel wrote: > > > The behavior seems to be that if you repeatedly enter some pages then > > go one level down then return to the main page, eventually when you > > come to the main page, Netscape will start filling the swapper.dat > > like crazy. This occured to me on pages > > http://computing.net/os2/wwwboard/wwwboard.html > > and > > http://computing.net/unix/wwwboard/wwwboard.html > > > > This occured when I was reading posts in each page then clicking the > > Back button > > to return to the menu of post subjects, swapping took my swapper.dat > > from > > 40Meg to 141 Meg in just a few minutes and I was able to kill netscape > > by Control+esc and then selecting Close. There is no popuplog entry > > because it's not a trap but some kind of infinite code loop going on. > > I have a feeling this happens on pages that lots of single line entries > > each of which has an icon on the start of it (like conputing.net has) > > > > The only thing unusual with my netscape is that I have Auto loading of > > images turned off.... [snip] -- ********************** DigiGraph Technical http://www.dgraph.com ********************** --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: DigiGraph Technical (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: thorenz@hydromech.uni-hannover.de 27-Oct-99 09:22:22 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:15 Subj: Re: bad netscape 4.61 GA (Strong encrypt version) cache bug From: Carsten Thorenz "Jeffrey S. Kobal" wrote: > (4) It's not an infinite loop, but it is looping through each of > those cells and allocating a "delayed image" construct for the > deferred load of the image into each cell, among other things. > After a while, this will load into the swapper and slow it down > more and more.... taking a VERY long time to complete. O.k., but why does it use _that_ much memory when image-loading is switched off? Do you use a 1MB pre-alloc for each "delayed" image? I've tried it with caches set to zero, no java, no java-script, no proxies. Theseus3 reports 88MB/26MB of allocated/committed memory with images switched on and 138MB/76MB of allocated/committed memory with images switched off when loading http://computing.net/windowsnt/wwwboard/wwwboard.html And, rather unreproducable, the memory-usage explodes when browsing through the forums. At a time Netscape had allocated about 300MB before I killed it. Bye, Carsten -- Carsten Thorenz Institut fuer Stroemungsmechanik und elektronisches Rechnen im Bauwesen thorenz@hydromech.uni-hannover.de http://www.hydromech.uni-hannover.de/w3-pages-thorenz/thorenz.html --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: RRZN - Newsserver Test (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: hamei@pacbell.net 27-Oct-99 06:07:14 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:15 Subj: Re: Backing out FP12 From: hamei@pacbell.net In <7v5tm6$6g3$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser writes: >In article ><381628f3$1$zpunffba$mr2ice@news3.ibm.net>, > mchasson@ibm.net wrote: >> In <7v136i$mg2$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, on 10/25/99 at >08:08 AM, >> Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser >said: > <<>> >> >It >> >means that if you have a multi-OS system, C >> >absolutely must be either FAT16 or HPFS, not FAT32 >or >> >NTFS or . . . . . . > <<>> >> Which C partition, or are you inferentially >implying that one must have at >> least one FAT C partition. > >I'm not inferring or implying anything. I'm saying >it straight out. A C partition must be visible when >you run the Fix Tool because it writes on C. Primary >or not I don't think matters. I'm not sure, but I >would think it doesn't matter. FAT16 & HPFS are the >only file systems that are built into WARP 4 client. > I've read this in the FixRead also . . and puzzled over it, as my C is either NTFS or befs and the fix tool has never had a problem. OK, never had a problem that wasn't my fault. Boot Manager's partition couldn't possibly count, could it ? >WW >Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT! > -- misplaced the .sig, sorry --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: SBC Internet Services (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: ispalten@us.ibm.com 27-Oct-99 07:58:24 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:16 Subj: Re: FixPack on diskette??? From: Irv Spalten Will, nothing is wrong with what you've posted. I can only recommend what I know works. I've not used the others. Personally, I'd use RSU to create the directory, just d/l and unzip and then burn the resulting directory and start OS2SERV. There are quite a few ways of doing anything. There is NO right way, but we DID document 'a way'. Irv Will Honea wrote: > > On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:33:58, Irv Spalten wrote: > > Irv, the QF11 program contains a substitute for LOADDSKF call DSKXTRCT > which greatly simplifies this unpacking by writing the image data > directly to the hard drive, paths and all. It also includes more > error > checking than LOADDSKF and will handle most of the image generation > revisions. I used to get really iritated when trying to unpack disk > images from the LAN group when they used a version of SAVEDSKF that > only > their very old version of LOADDSKF would work with (good luck finding > it!). Of course, being > IBM you can't suggest this alternate program but you might find the > info useful . > > > Documented in the FixTool READ.ME file, section 6 : > > > > =========== > > Section 6. How to Set Up the FixTool for Remote Installation > > > > To speed up FixPak installation or to setup a FixPak on a LAN drive > > for use by others (Redirected Install), follow these steps. > > > > Before you begin, it is recommended that you install a Virtual Floppy > > Disk > > program such as SVDISK (Super Virtual Disk) or VFDISK (Virtual Floppy > > Disk). > > > > In the following examples, d: is the working drive and j: is the > > Virtual > > Floppy drive. Replace this with the drive letters you use. Also in > > these > > examples, XR_W035 is the FixPak name. > > > > First, setup a directory to hold the FixTool code. For example, > > run the following to place the FixTool into the d:\csf directory. > > > > | cs_141.exe d:\csf > > > > Next, setup the FixPak directory using the diskette images. > > > > loaddskf xr_w035.1dk j: /f/y/q > > xcopy j: d:\xr_w035\ /h/o/t/s/e/r/v > > loaddskf xr_w035.2dk j: /f/y/q > > xcopy j: d:\xr_w035\ /h/o/t/s/e/r/v > > ... > > ... > > ... > > > > Install the FixPak by running service.exe. > > > > set csfutilpath=d:\csf > > set csfcdromdir=d:\xr_w035 > > d: > > cd csf > > service (or start service) > > > > You can also apply service by running fservice.exe with a response > > file. > > > > d: > > cd csf > > fservice /r:d:\csf\response.wp3 /s:d:\xr_w035 > > > > This will apply the FixPak to all serviceable partitions. If you want > > to make the response file specific to a partition (drive) then you > > need > > to change the :SYSLEVEL and :ARCHIVE lines in response.wp3: > > > > :SYSLEVEL \OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.OS2 > > :ARCHIVE \ARCHIVE > > > > -- should be changed to -- > > > > :SYSLEVEL x:\OS2\INSTALL\SYSLEVEL.OS2 > > :ARCHIVE x:\ARCHIVE > > > > where x: is the drive you want serviced. > > =================== > > Will Honea --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: IBM Corp. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: ispalten@us.ibm.com 27-Oct-99 08:09:16 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:16 Subj: Re: FixPack on diskette??? From: Irv Spalten Bill, this isn't a contest? There are more than one way to do this. I just provided a pointer to existing instructions. The guy already had the diskettes don't forget. Me, I'd use RSU, d/l and unzip, and then burn the resulting directory and start OS2SERV. 'Almost' foolproof. Lag on the news groups appear to be quite significant, I only saw the original when I appended. You're procedure is what RSU does, minus the few extra files (and OS2SERV) that it takes down (as well as the proper required FixTool). Save a few MB's in D/L. The only file there not needed (I think the FixTool is) is the FTPINSTL.ZIP, it holds the RSU table for the FP, and the FP README.1ST file which is in the first FP ZIP file. RSU method should allow you to pickup if you do get a line disconnect as well. 6 of 1, 1/2 a dozen of another, your choice. Irv Bill Wild Willy Kredentser wrote: > > In article <3815D7F6.ACF5B553@us.ibm.com>, > Irv Spalten wrote: > <<>> > > Before you begin, it is recommended that you > install a Virtual Floppy > > Disk > > program such as SVDISK (Super Virtual Disk) or > VFDISK (Virtual Floppy > > Disk). > <<>> > > But Irv, what about my way? You don't need any > virtual floppy driver. And my script is almost the > same as the one in the instructions. What's the > matter with my way? Is there some rule my way > violates? Sure, it's not a totally hands-free > approach, but it has the HUGE benefit of allowing you > to apply a Fix Pack when your modem (modems, Irv, > remember those? <:-)) ) isn't busy downloading megs & > megs of software at the excruciatingly slow speed > permitted by phone lines. Phone lines that many of > us can't get to connect much faster than 20000baud. > Phone lines that have the nasty habit of > disconnecting in the middle of multi-meg downloads. > Come to think of it, I've known high-speed leased > Internet connections to drop conversations in > mid-download, too. Please comment on my approach, > Irv. It's posted on this thread just in front of > your post. > > > David Johnston wrote: > <<>> > > WW > Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT! > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: IBM Corp. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: ispalten@us.ibm.com 27-Oct-99 08:19:13 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:16 Subj: Re: creating bootable floppy diskette From: Irv Spalten Mark, not sure what you mean? See below... Mark Klebanoff wrote: > > On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 16:31:31, Irv Spalten wrote: > > > I've seen reports of failures to create the diskettes. Have you checked > > "Use files from the hard disk if they exist"? If you didn't, it has > > always worked. Check it and it failed after FP 9 or 10, forgot which, > > but WAS supposed to be fixed under FP 12. > > > > I did check use files from hard drive. When I checked, the July 99 > version of ibm1s506.add was on the floppy, so I know it worked. FWIW > the config sys had a device driver rem'd out, and that driver wasn't > on the floppy. I wasn't the IBM1S506.ADD that did you in, is was an Adaptec driver, AIC7870.ADD I recall, grew from 70K to 140K I remember (I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong). Look in your OS2\BOOT directory, that is where most of the files get pulled from. The FixTool only lays down files it finds. BOOTDISK (the program that makes the diskettes) also copies over only files it finds. The specific APAR is CLOSED, and whatever the fix was for that APAR, it was reported as working by the customer. Like I said, the fix might have been only of limited value. I've seen this happen before, the symptoms are the same, but the causes are different. Sometimes a report isn't filed (the Interested Parties list was long on this one) because it is 'known', but it ends up not getting fixed for everyone. If you want, send me the directory list of your diskettes, when I get a chance, I'll make the diskettes off of my machine and compare them, also give me the directory of OS2\BOOT. Send it to my e-mail ID please. > Maybe something in the routine was smart enough to > delete an unneeded file? I doubt it Irv --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: IBM Corp. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bv@mail.bv.no 27-Oct-99 15:40:05 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:17 Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rn?= Vermo Ilya Zakharevich wrote: > > You cannot have more than circa 220M of virtual memory allocated by an > application (at least with the "standard" setup). Some people claim > that tweaking things a bit here and a bit there moves this boundary, > but only a tiny bit. > This is not a normal application, it is DB/2. I seem to recall that it made good use of 2GB RAM in a previous version under OS/2 2.1. At least, the server was much more responsive with more memory in it. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Norbionics (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: ispalten@us.ibm.com 27-Oct-99 10:56:27 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:17 Subj: Re: Backing out FP12 From: Irv Spalten OK, the way it works is that the FixTool needs access to C:, plain and simple. If C: is unformatted, NTFS, or FAT32 (and probably others), it gets back a bad return code when it uses API calles to find the file FIXSTART.xxx. This is the file that tells the FixTool that service was interrupted. If it gets back any error other than 'file not found' or '0' indicating the file exists, you get the generic error message (which was not what was happening in this case). Irv hamei@pacbell.net wrote: > > In <7v5tm6$6g3$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser writes: > >In article > ><381628f3$1$zpunffba$mr2ice@news3.ibm.net>, > > mchasson@ibm.net wrote: > >> In <7v136i$mg2$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, on 10/25/99 at > >08:08 AM, > >> Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser > >said: > > <<>> > >> >It > >> >means that if you have a multi-OS system, C > >> >absolutely must be either FAT16 or HPFS, not FAT32 > >or > >> >NTFS or . . . . . . > > <<>> > >> Which C partition, or are you inferentially > >implying that one must have at > >> least one FAT C partition. > > > >I'm not inferring or implying anything. I'm saying > >it straight out. A C partition must be visible when > >you run the Fix Tool because it writes on C. Primary > >or not I don't think matters. I'm not sure, but I > >would think it doesn't matter. FAT16 & HPFS are the > >only file systems that are built into WARP 4 client. > > > > I've read this in the FixRead also . . and puzzled over it, as my C is > either NTFS or befs and the fix tool has never had a problem. OK, > never had a problem that wasn't my fault. Boot Manager's partition > couldn't possibly count, could it ? > > >WW > >Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT! > > > -- > misplaced the .sig, sorry --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: IBM Corp. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: sarnow@t-online.de 27-Oct-99 11:46:23 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:17 Subj: Re: Netscape 4.04 freezes System From: "Sarnow" On 26 Oct 1999 21:11:21 GMT, mr_ace@gmx.de wrote: >Is there a fix available?? Versuche es mit 4.61 schneller stabiler ......... Tschuss dann Rainer --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: T-Online (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: hamei@pacbell.net 27-Oct-99 19:08:00 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:18 Subj: Re: Backing out FP12 From: hamei@pacbell.net In <381720C7.514BACB1@us.ibm.com>, Irv Spalten writes: >OK, the way it works is that the FixTool needs access to C:, plain and >simple. If C: is unformatted, NTFS, or FAT32 (and probably others), it >gets back a bad return code when it uses API calles to find the file >FIXSTART.xxx. This is the file that tells the FixTool that service was >interrupted. If it gets back any error other than 'file not found' or >'0' indicating the file exists, you get the generic error message (which >was not what was happening in this case). > >Irv > I *do* know better than to look a gift horse in the mouth . . but . . . My C: partition has been either NTFS or Befs for ages, OS/2 has been in an extended logical partition D: for years. I've had success with fixes from 16 to 42 but memory isn't so good any more - I use fastkick 141 now, but that shouldn't make any difference to what the Fixtool needs, should it ? It's been over a year since I had a FAT partition at all, but Service still works fine . . . uh-oh ? Is it possible that the fixtool gets the proper return code from the boot manager partition ? here's the screen from fdisk /query : Drive Name Partition Vtype FStype Status Start Size 1 0000003f : 1 0a 2 0 7 1 --> LVM C: 1 07 1 7 1004 1 --> LVM : 1 eb 1 1011 509 1 --> LVM* D: 2 07 1 1521 541 2 0000003f : 1 00 0 0 7 2 SMP Warp E: 2 07 1 7 596 2 0012e00d : 3 00 0 604 470 3 0000003f : 1 00 0 0 7 3 00003f00 F: 2 07 0 7 4345 the 1 gig on C: is definitely NTFS, tho it shows as the same fs type as the HPFS on D: and E: . . . . --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: SBC Internet Services (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net 27-Oct-99 19:35:11 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:18 Subj: Re: Netscape 4.04 freezes System From: doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 21:11:21, mr_ace@gmx.de wrote: > Hi folks! > > 5 Minutes ago, I had a real System hang (not even the mouse cursor was moving), > while loading a web page which started java (1.1.8), Warp4, FP7 > I had several other programs running, i.g. ICQ for java which transferred a big file, > FTP server with users logged in... > > This went ok until I loaded this particular webpage. > Java 1.1.8 seems to have some bugs! > Is there a fix available?? > > Thanxx in advance! > > Andi I don't know if it will help, but check out: ftp://ftp.hursley.ibm.com/pub/java/fixes/os2/11/ for the latest updates. ****************************** From the PC of Doug Bissett doug.bissett at attglobal.net The " at " must be changed to "@" ****************************** --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: wwilly@one.net 27-Oct-99 19:55:08 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:18 Subj: Re: FixPack on diskette??? From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser In article <3816F98D.7E73F113@us.ibm.com>, Irv Spalten wrote: <<>> > 6 of 1, 1/2 a dozen of another, your choice. <<>> > Bill Wild Willy Kredentser wrote: > > In article <3815D7F6.ACF5B553@us.ibm.com>, > > Irv Spalten wrote: > > <<>> A thousand thanks, Irv. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't screwing something up. I haven't observed any problems, but this isn't always proof of anything. <:-)) Again, thanks. WW Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT! Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Team OS/2 Cincinnati (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: hamei@pacbell.net 28-Oct-99 06:35:01 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:19 Subj: Re: Backing out FP12 From: hamei@pacbell.net In <38175B41.F82C85FE@us.ibm.com>, Irv Spalten writes: now here's a case of role reversal ! the hapless user saying something works, knowledgeable tech guy saying it can't ! :-) >Don't know what you've got on C:, but OS/2 can write to it. Running >another device driver to do so? LVM shows a drive you can't write to, no >drive letter assigned, and other partitions like that. > >Two simple tests. Try to copy a file to C:, does it go under the BOOTED >OS/2 system? If so, the FixTool can use it, if NOT, then I'd like to >know how the FixTool works under the drive letter assignments below, C: >- F:... > >Second is to make Utility diskettes, or use the Install diskettes and >escape to >a CMD prompt. Then see if you can write to drive C:, and which is >actually C:. okay, cleaned up fdisk a little, here's the new display : Drive Name Partition Vtype FStype Status Start Size 1 0000003f : 1 0a 2 0 7 1 NT C: 1 07 1 7 1004 1 BeOS : 1 eb 1 1011 509 1 Old OS2 D: 2 07 1 1521 541 2 0000003f : 1 00 0 0 7 2 SMP Warp E: 2 07 1 7 596 2 0012e00d : 3 00 0 604 470 3 0000003f : 1 00 0 0 7 3 00003f00 F: 2 07 0 7 4345 disk one - Boot Manager, NT w/NTFS file sys, BeOS w/befs file sys, old OS/2 install as hpfs logical D: disk two - e: logical new OS/2, empty space disk three f: logical why fdisk reports C: as 07 I cannot say - it was initially formatted FAT, then installed OS/2 hpfs on D:, then NT as primary C:, then BeOS as second primary C:, then returned to NT and converted the FAT partition to NTFS. NT has pinball.sys installed as well, but that's a one-way street, so . . . from OS/2 on E: I cannot open a C: drive object. I cannot write a file or even do a dir on C: from a command line. Can D-n-D on a C drive object, but it doesn't really go there. Booted from utility disks you get the C: prompt, but do a dir and the message is "SYS0026 The specified disk or diskette cannot be accessed." Double clicking on a drive object from OS/2 WPS says "The drive or diskette is not formatted correctly." Last night with this setup I fixed my new OS/2 install to level 39, glitch-free. Checking Service.log shows no mention of C: (maybe this is dumb, but when reinstalling I always fp to a level a few shy of where I want to be - if there's a catastrophe it seems easier to fix at a level close to where you want to be then take a light finish cut . . comes from the machining background, probably stupid . . . ) in summary, as far as I can tell, I cannot write to C: from OS/2 in any way on this computer (unless there's a secret read-write ntfs driver in the newest fixpacks ?? :-) but using fastkick 141 and diunpacking the .dsk files manually Service just whizzes through the whole operation. Seems to do a correct archive as well. Is this heavenly repayment for the things that *should* work but don't ? {VCD player from the Netscape Pluginpak - worked once, have never been successful again :-( > >Here is what I have as a comparison : > >Drive Name Partition Vtype FStype Status Start Size > > 1 OS/2old : 1 17 1 0 1506 > 1 WINNT : 1 17 1 1506 1506 > 1 OS2 C: 1 07 1 3012 1953 > 1 009b2b39 : 0 00 0 4965 1176 > 1 00bff04f : 1 0a 2 6142 7 > >The first is another HPFS, second is NT, note the FStype, 17, NTFS, then >the booted drive (NT is another C: hidden), an UNFORMATTED partition, >and lastly, Boot Manager. umm, I notice your OS/2old partition is also NTFS ? you have the opposite situation from me ? > >What I believe you have : > > 1 0000003f : 1 0a 2 0 7 > 1 --> LVM C: 1 07 1 7 1004 > 1 --> LVM : 1 eb 1 1011 509 > 1 --> LVM* D: 2 07 1 1521 541 > >First is boot manager, followed by a drive that appears to be an HPFS >(06 is FAT), then one I don't recognize, possibly a hidden C:, Linux?, >followed by another HPFS assigned as D:. It is actually Boot Manager, NTFS C:, BeOS C:, HPFS D: soon to be NeXT C: - don't see anything in here OS/2 can write to ! so for some reason my fdisk mislabelled ntfs as hpfs ? If I wanna continue fixpacking I should *avoid* fdisk /newmbr at all costs ? Maybe this has something to do with NT's Disk Administrator "writing a signature to the hard disc" ? once upon a time, ages ago when I used floppies, I did a fixpack that took about twenty hours to read the disks. That seemed odd, as the time before it went quite fast and has never done that again. That was the impetus to get fastkick and learn a better way ! anyway, it works :-) > >Irv > --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: SBC Internet Services (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: paul_floyd@see.sig 28-Oct-99 09:44:01 To: All 28-Oct-99 10:23:19 Subj: Re: 32 bit CHKDSK and SCSI HD problem From: Paul Floyd Richard Bumby wrote: > I'm not sure about drivers for the newer TekrAm cards. Maybe, someone > can comment on that. I just bought a new system with a Tekram 390U2W card (dual channel, U2W and Fast/U). It includes a floppy with DOS, Windows and OS/2 drivers. Works fine so far. Paul -- Paul Floyd Focal Ingenierie Sud Mail: paul underscore floyd at focal dot fr --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Guest of OLEANE (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: KevH@yorkie.dabsolLL.co.uk 28-Oct-99 04:24:26 To: All 28-Oct-99 11:18:04 Subj: Re: Update Blues From: KevH@yorkie.dabsolLL.co.uk Jim, Many thanks for your reply. > Did you try to get fixpack 39? It isn't the last one, but > I've read it is a stable one. The W3 installation has not been upgraded but obviously needs to be hence my attempts to d/l the files (FP 40 at ps.software.....un64092 > Do you install the software through os2 or through windows. > I'm a little vague on warp 3, but there in the system folder > there's a place to search for and add new programs. You can > choose dos, winos2 folders, or even individual programs. Have tried an install both through OS/2 and Windows - both give the same result. I feel it is either a resource problem (Warp Config reads Dos=Low which worries me) or a path issue. Am still attempting to learn the ins and outs on the various Warp configuration files and types but am hampered by a decent file manager ala XTGold. > As for installing the fixpacks, give Duane's page a shot... > http://www.gt-online.com/~bri/fix.html <--- this is another, > Duane's pages were not loading. (I search on Duane Indelible > Blue to find him. ) Wil give this a go this weekend. > You need to post some details of your new system (more than > some, really) if you want good advice. Sometimes you'll > discover problems that are caused by hardware, especially > video and sound cards. Nothing in the system should be giving a prob. It is a AMD K6-2 350 MHz with 64Mb PC100, 2 x SCSI Diff system on a Adaptec 2944W (Fat16 on Disk 1, HPFS on Disk 2) with a 12x CD-Rom on a 1515 (scanner to be hooked-up at a later date). No sound card installed (still to research this one as my VideoLogic Aureal chip is not provided with os/2 drivers by the manufacturer). The only update to Warps setup drivers is with the video card which is a VideoLogic 600 Pro with 2Mb on-board. These are OS/2 specifc drivers. All other s/w has loaded ok to present. > KevH@yorkieLL.dabsol.co.uk wrote: <-----this didn't work. Many apologies on this. Normally my sig file is appended to posts but seems, obviously, not to be doing so. A quick look at the preferences of setup does not show a setting for this but there is as I have seen it on many occasions. AAAARRRRGGGGGHHH - another little job to do. Anyway my address is:- KevH@yorkie.dabsolLL.co.uk or yorkie@yorkie.dabsolLL.co.uk (dont ask about the differences or which one is right as I dont know and the provider can not work it out either. If you find one of them succeeds let me know which as I sure am curious. However I do not use the ISP unless absolutely necessary as their knowledge is nil and the service is ) or kevinh@svLL.span.com You will have to get the L outta there for correct address on the quoted Regards, Kev @ somewhere in virtual unreality --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: lifedata@xxvol.com 27-Oct-99 23:28:04 To: All 28-Oct-99 11:18:05 Subj: Re: creating bootable floppy diskette From: lifedata@xxvol.com Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser said: >I have renamed the original CONFIG.SYS in that >directory & created a new CONFIG.SYS in that >directory. The 2 files are almost the same, except I >have REMmed out all the drivers that are not >applicable to my system. I have no SCSI equipment. It has been suggested that I remove SNP files. May I assume that also any ADD file that is listed in snoop.lst as SCSI can be safely remmed out. Jim L Remove XX from address to Email Crooks and kooks will get guns regardless of laws. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: murdoctor@ausNOSPAMtin.rr.com 28-Oct-99 04:39:23 To: All 28-Oct-99 11:18:05 Subj: Re: bad netscape 4.61 GA (Strong encrypt version) cache bug From: "Jeffrey S. Kobal" Carsten Thorenz wrote: > O.k., but why does it use _that_ much memory when image-loading > is switched off? Frankly, I don't know. I just took a quick look at it to see if it was something that could be easily solved, but the memory allocations are coming from within the Netscape layout engine, which is an area of the code we are loathe to touch. We're talking about calls that are over a dozen levels deep, with callback functions and structures/lists set up to do work later on, multiple connection-sessions created for the images, etc. Since it is a bug in the Windows version as well, and this is obviously a very poorly-designed page, it's really not something I'm concerned about. Certainly not worth the risks involved with changing the layout code. Jeffrey S. Kobal IBM Corporation --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Origin Line 1 Goes Here (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: yourself@127.0.0.1 28-Oct-99 05:05:20 To: All 28-Oct-99 11:18:05 Subj: Re: Solved: NS 4.61 uses 100% CPU From: yourself@127.0.0.1 (Rich Walsh) On Wed, 27 Oct 1999 19:35:25, doug.bissett"at"attglobal.net (Doug Bissett) wrote: > On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 18:21:17, yourself@127.0.0.1 (Rich Walsh) wrote: > > > Regardless of whether this is the same problem or a completely different > > one, the fact remains that you have a memory cache and no disk cache. > > Several of us have found that this is a sure recipe for 100% CPU usage. > > > > I have been running 0 memeory, and 0 disk cache, for a while now. It > does seem to make things MUCH better, but I still see the 100% > phenonenon, for much shorter periods of time, and not as often. I am > going to try adding some memory, and disk cache, to see if that makes > any difference. > > It does look like there could be more than one problem, with similar > indications... Well, I found something that certainly _looks_ the same - but different. Using NS4.61, 2048kb mem cache, 128kb disk cache, everything enabled, this 128bit-encryption-required page produces 100% CPU usage as soon as NS connects and then takes almost two minutes to be displayed. https://www.firstunion.com/FrontLineLogin.html However, if I bring up the Preferences notebook, CPU usage drops to "normal" and the page displays quickly. In fact, if I already have the File->Save as dialog displayed, the problem never occurs at all. What can I say but ??!???*?? == == almost usable email address: rlwalshATpacket.net == == ___________________________________________________________________ | - DragText v3.1 - Rich Walsh | A Distinctly Different Desktop Enhancement Ft Myers, FL | New! Pickup & Drop for text, and more... | http://www.usacomputers.net/personal/rlwalsh/ ___________________________________________________________________ --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: http://extra.newsguy.com (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com 28-Oct-99 13:33:00 To: All 28-Oct-99 14:45:06 Subj: Re: Backing out FP12 From: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com (Frank McKenney) In , hamei@pacbell.net writes: --snip-- >why fdisk reports C: as 07 I cannot say - it was initially formatted FAT, >then installed OS/2 hpfs on D:, then NT as primary C:, then BeOS as second >primary C:, then returned to NT and converted the FAT partition to NTFS. --snip-- Minor aside: FSType x'07' does not, in itself, indicate an HPFS partition. It's the flag for an IFS (Installable File System) partition, which might be HPFS, NTFS, or SomethinEntirelyDifferentFS. In order to determine the actual file system which laid out the contents of the partition you have to actually check the partition (as the IFS module or modules do at boot time). We now return you to your regularly scheduled mystery... (;-) Frank McKenney, McKenney Associates Richmond, Virginia / (804) 320-4887 E-mail: frank_mckenney@mindspring.com --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: McKenney Associates (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: ivan@protein.bio.msu.su 28-Oct-99 16:51:15 To: All 28-Oct-99 14:45:06 Subj: Re: SYS3175 in PMMERGE with Comm/2 4.61 GA From: "Ivan Adzhubei" In <380F4934.55B94862@NOSPAMus.ibm.com>, on 10/21/99 at 12:11 PM, "Jeffrey S. Kobal" said: Jeffrey, Looks like you was right. I have applied pmr00052 fix for pmmerge.dll found on testcase.boulder.ibm.com and the system is much more stable now. Too early to say if all of my FP12 problems were actually fixed by this one, but looks like Netscape is happy now. Moreover, as a bonus, I found the above version of pmmerge.dll fixed (well, almost) the problem this machine has been suffering for the last 2 years! See my posting on another thread (Subj: OS2*.INI files constantly updated after FP12). The annoying periodical rewriting of INI files is still here, but with the new pmmerge.dll, it no longer locks WPS/Desktop during the INI write. Jeffrey, I don't know if you are behind this fix, but anyway - my many thanks to whoever did it. Great job! Cheers, Ivan >Same here, all sorts of weird memory problems and WPS lockups due to >NC4.61 after installing FP12: >------------------------------------------------------------ >10-20-1999 18:16:17 SYS3175 PID 0919 TID 0001 Slot 00c1 >C:\NETSCAPE\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE >c0000005 >1be3bda2 >P1=00000001 P2=0000007c P3=XXXXXXXX P4=XXXXXXXX >EAX=00000000 EBX=00000000 ECX=00000000 EDX=13e8b0d4 >ESI=007c49f0 EDI=007c0004 >DS=0053 DSACC=d0f3 DSLIM=1fffffff >ES=0053 ESACC=d0f3 ESLIM=1fffffff >FS=150b FSACC=00f3 FSLIM=00000030 >GS=08ab GSACC=10f3 GSLIM=00003fff >CS:EIP=005b:1be3bda2 CSACC=d0df CSLIM=1fffffff >SS:ESP=0053:007c4994 SSACC=d0f3 SSLIM=1fffffff >EBP=007c49c4 FLG=00012202 >PMMERGE.DLL 0004:0013bda2 >Cheers, >Ivan >>Dave Parsons wrote: >>> Since upgrading to the GA version of Comm/2 4.61 and also FP12 >>> I have started to get crashes using Netscape when doing nothing >>> special, just starting to download a new page. >>> >>> 10-16-1999 10:11:30 SYS3175 PID 0334 TID 0001 Slot 0060 >>> E:\NETSCAPE\PROGRAM\NETSCAPE.EXE >>> c0000005 >>> 1bdfdef1 >>> P1=00000001 P2=00000103 P3=XXXXXXXX P4=XXXXXXXX >>> EAX=178f0028 EBX=0000057c ECX=00000060 EDX=00000584 >>> ESI=00000584 EDI=000000ff >>> DS=0053 DSACC=d0f3 DSLIM=1fffffff >>> ES=0053 ESACC=d0f3 ESLIM=1fffffff >>> FS=150b FSACC=00f3 FSLIM=00000030 >>> GS=3503 GSACC=10f3 GSLIM=00003fff >>> CS:EIP=005b:1bdfdef1 CSACC=d0df CSLIM=1fffffff >>> SS:ESP=0053:007c60f8 SSACC=d0f3 SSLIM=1fffffff >>> EBP=007c6128 FLG=00012206 >>> >>> PMMERGE.DLL 0004:000fdef1 >>> Is the fault in NC/2 GA or pmmerge from FP12? >>I'm afraid it looks like a problem in the FP12 PMMERGE, as far as I can >>tell. At this instruction, the EDI register should be holding a >>pointer to the next free block on the heap, but it is not a valid >>pointer. Communicator should not be able to corrupt the free chain in >>a PM heap, so I'd have to assume that a bug was introduced in FP12. >>Jeffrey S. Kobal >>IBM Corporation -- ----------------------------------------------------------- "Ivan Adzhubei" ----------------------------------------------------------- --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Moscow State University (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: ispalten@us.ibm.com 28-Oct-99 08:27:02 To: All 28-Oct-99 14:45:07 Subj: Re: Backing out FP12 From: Irv Spalten Hmm, didn't notice my machine reported the first drive as NTFS, which is isn't? I now suspect a defect in FDISK, but probably in the filesystem somewhere? FDISKPM is also wrong, calls the x'17' as if it is x'07'? It IS possible that since 'something' thinks it is an HPFS partition, the API gets a '2' back, file NOT found, and we then continue? Will have to look at this. Irv hamei@pacbell.net wrote: > > In <38175B41.F82C85FE@us.ibm.com>, Irv Spalten writes: > > now here's a case of role reversal ! the hapless user saying something works, > knowledgeable tech guy saying it can't ! :-) > > >Don't know what you've got on C:, but OS/2 can write to it. Running > >another device driver to do so? LVM shows a drive you can't write to, no > >drive letter assigned, and other partitions like that. > > > >Two simple tests. Try to copy a file to C:, does it go under the BOOTED > >OS/2 system? If so, the FixTool can use it, if NOT, then I'd like to > >know how the FixTool works under the drive letter assignments below, C: > >- F:... > > > >Second is to make Utility diskettes, or use the Install diskettes and > >escape to > >a CMD prompt. Then see if you can write to drive C:, and which is > >actually C:. > > okay, cleaned up fdisk a little, here's the new display : > > Drive Name Partition Vtype FStype Status Start Size > > 1 0000003f : 1 0a 2 0 7 > 1 NT C: 1 07 1 7 1004 > 1 BeOS : 1 eb 1 1011 509 > 1 Old OS2 D: 2 07 1 1521 541 > 2 0000003f : 1 00 0 0 7 > 2 SMP Warp E: 2 07 1 7 596 > 2 0012e00d : 3 00 0 604 470 > 3 0000003f : 1 00 0 0 7 > 3 00003f00 F: 2 07 0 7 4345 > > disk one - Boot Manager, NT w/NTFS file sys, BeOS w/befs file sys, old > OS/2 install as hpfs logical D: > > disk two - e: logical new OS/2, empty space > > disk three f: logical > > why fdisk reports C: as 07 I cannot say - it was initially formatted FAT, > then installed OS/2 hpfs on D:, then NT as primary C:, then BeOS as second > primary C:, then returned to NT and converted the FAT partition to NTFS. > NT has pinball.sys installed as well, but that's a one-way street, so . . . > > from OS/2 on E: I cannot open a C: drive object. I cannot write a file or > even do a dir on C: from a command line. Can D-n-D on a C drive object, > but it doesn't really go there. Booted from utility disks you get the C: prompt, > but do a dir and the message is "SYS0026 The specified disk or diskette cannot > be accessed." Double clicking on a drive object from OS/2 WPS says "The drive > or diskette is not formatted correctly." > > Last night with this setup I fixed my new OS/2 install to level 39, glitch-free. > Checking Service.log shows no mention of C: (maybe this is dumb, but when > reinstalling I always fp to a level a few shy of where I want to be - if there's > a catastrophe it seems easier to fix at a level close to where you want to be > then take a light finish cut . . comes from the machining background, probably > stupid . . . ) > > in summary, as far as I can tell, I cannot write to C: from OS/2 in any way on > this computer (unless there's a secret read-write ntfs driver in the newest > fixpacks ?? :-) but using fastkick 141 and diunpacking the .dsk files manually > Service just whizzes through the whole operation. Seems to do a correct > archive as well. Is this heavenly repayment for the things that *should* work > but don't ? {VCD player from the Netscape Pluginpak - worked once, have > never been successful again :-( > > > > >Here is what I have as a comparison : > > > >Drive Name Partition Vtype FStype Status Start Size > > > > 1 OS/2old : 1 17 1 0 1506 > > 1 WINNT : 1 17 1 1506 1506 > > 1 OS2 C: 1 07 1 3012 1953 > > 1 009b2b39 : 0 00 0 4965 1176 > > 1 00bff04f : 1 0a 2 6142 7 > > > >The first is another HPFS, second is NT, note the FStype, 17, NTFS, then > >the booted drive (NT is another C: hidden), an UNFORMATTED partition, > >and lastly, Boot Manager. > > umm, I notice your OS/2old partition is also NTFS ? you have the opposite > situation from me ? > > > > >What I believe you have : > > > > 1 0000003f : 1 0a 2 0 7 > > 1 --> LVM C: 1 07 1 7 1004 > > 1 --> LVM : 1 eb 1 1011 509 > > 1 --> LVM* D: 2 07 1 1521 541 > > > >First is boot manager, followed by a drive that appears to be an HPFS > >(06 is FAT), then one I don't recognize, possibly a hidden C:, Linux?, > >followed by another HPFS assigned as D:. > > It is actually Boot Manager, NTFS C:, BeOS C:, HPFS D: soon to be NeXT C: - > don't see anything in here OS/2 can write to ! > > so for some reason my fdisk mislabelled ntfs as hpfs ? If I wanna continue > fixpacking I should *avoid* fdisk /newmbr at all costs ? Maybe this has > something to do with NT's Disk Administrator "writing a signature to the > hard disc" ? > > once upon a time, ages ago when I used floppies, I did a fixpack that > took about twenty hours to read the disks. That seemed odd, as the > time before it went quite fast and has never done that again. That > was the impetus to get fastkick and learn a better way ! > > anyway, it works :-) > > > > >Irv > > --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: IBM Corp. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jhong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca 28-Oct-99 15:52:15 To: All 28-Oct-99 14:45:07 Subj: Re: CSF for fixpack 38 From: jhong@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (John Hong) "Dilbert Firestorm" writes: >does it make any differernce what csf_### version to use under warp 3.0 >fixpack 38? Yes, try and use the latest. Currently that is v1.41. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Memorial University of Newfoundland (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: arnews@dsgml.com 28-Oct-99 13:26:25 To: All 28-Oct-99 16:44:09 Subj: Re: bad netscape 4.61 GA (Strong encrypt version) cache bug From: Ariel On Thu, 28 Oct 1999, Jeffrey S. Kobal wrote: > Carsten Thorenz wrote: > > O.k., but why does it use _that_ much memory when image-loading > > is switched off? > Since it is a bug in the Windows version as well, and this > is obviously a very poorly-designed page, it's really not > something I'm concerned about. Certainly not worth the > risks involved with changing the layout code. Could/will you at least report it to Netscape? Although I'm not sure how many new releases for navigator there will be before Mozilla. If they do fix it, can/will you incorporate the change into the OS/2 version (even if you don't do a full "port" of the new version), just a small maintenance release for this specific problem (if they fix it). -Ariel --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Shore.Net/Eco Software, Inc; (info@shore.net) (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: wwilly@one.net 28-Oct-99 16:28:18 To: All 28-Oct-99 16:44:09 Subj: Re: creating bootable floppy diskette From: Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser In article <3817c36d$2$yvsrqngn$mr2ice@news.vol.com>, lifedata@xxvol.com wrote: > Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser said: <<>> > I have no SCSI equipment. It has been suggested that I remove SNP files. May I > assume that also any ADD file that is listed in snoop.lst as SCSI can be safely > remmed out. I tried getting rid of SNP files once & ended up with something that didn't even come close to working. So now, I don't actually remove any files from the diskettes. I just REM out the drivers I'm not using. I, like you, have no SCSI equipment so I have REMmed those statements out of the CONFIG.SYS on the second of the 4 diskettes. I have not gone further. I figure the files fit, I'm not using them, the utility put them there, it's an extra step to remove them, they're just taking up space I wouldn't put to any other use on the diskettes, so I don't bother. Here's a messy but space-saving list of what I have REMmed out of that CONFIG.SYS: ibm2flpy.add ibm2adsk.add ibm2scsi.add aha152x.add aha154x.add aha164x.add aha174x.add aic7770.add aic7870.add btscsi.add fd16-700.add fd8xx.add fd7000ex.add dpt20xx.add dac960.add flashpt.add ipsraid.add ql10os2.add ql40os2.add ql510.add chincds1.flt hitcds1.flt neccds1.flt sonycds1.flt toshcds1.flt tmv1scsi.add sony535.add lms206.add lms205.add mitfx001.add sbcd2.add sony31a.add WW Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT! Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Team OS/2 Cincinnati (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: hamei@pacbell.net 28-Oct-99 16:57:15 To: All 28-Oct-99 16:44:09 Subj: Re: Backing out FP12 From: hamei@pacbell.net In <38184F29.93E63E48@us.ibm.com>, Irv Spalten writes: >Hmm, didn't notice my machine reported the first drive as NTFS, which is >isn't? > >I now suspect a defect in FDISK, but probably in the filesystem >somewhere? FDISKPM is also wrong, calls the x'17' as if it is x'07'? It >IS possible that since 'something' thinks it is an HPFS partition, the >API gets a '2' back, file NOT found, and we then continue? > >Will have to look at this. > >Irv > FDISKPM does show the NTFS primary C: partition as HPFS. This isn't a one-time anomaly, either - did the same thing in two different OS/2 installs on two different partitions. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: SBC Internet Services (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: jweinkam@sprint.ca 28-Oct-99 17:07:13 To: All 29-Oct-99 11:30:17 Subj: Re: PINBALL.SYS and FP12? From: "J. Weinkam" On occations, when booting NT, I find that it doesn't recognize my HPFS partitions. When this happens I shut down NT, boot OS/2 and do CHKDSK on all HPFS partitions. I then shutdown and start NT and it will recognize them. You might want to force a CHKDSK of your partitions to see if it helps. Dave Parsons wrote: > Hello, > > I recently ungraded one of my computers, which can dual boot > between OS/2 and NT4, from FP8 to FP12. Yesterday I booted to > NT for the first time since the upgrade and I find that I can > nolonger see my HPFS partitions from NT. > I have PINBALL.SYS installed on NT and all the HPFS partitions > were there last time I booted to NT. > > Can anyone else confirm either that pinball & FP12 can see HPFS > partitions or that a change occurred between FP8 & FP12 that > stops it working? > I can't see anything in the readmes, but then I wouldn't really > expect to since it is not really supported. > > TIA, > -- > Dave --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Sprint Canada Inc. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: sma.spam-not@rtd.com 29-Oct-99 02:58:13 To: All 29-Oct-99 11:30:19 Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory From: James Moe dwilliams9494@my-deja.com wrote: > > Thanks, Scott and Lorne. We have an OS/2 guru of sorts who helped us > configure HPFS386 to use an optimal cache size. > > But the problem isn't that we're running out of available memory - it's > that DB2 isn't using it. Memstat is sitting there telling us we have > 429 MB of available RAM (after DB2 startup, HPFS cache allocation, > etc), but we take the same configuration and ask for a total of 50,000 > pages (200 MB) of bufferpool and we don't get it. If we run this > configuration under Warp workstation, it works just fine. > > It's like Warp Server is limiting the amount of memory it'll give to > running programs. > Are you sure that the memory is not being used? That is, have doen stuff with DB2 that demands the amount of memory allocated? It may be that the memory is made available to DB2 but not committed until it is actually needed. -- sma at rtd dot com Remove ".spam-not" for email --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Sohnen-Moe Associates, Inc (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: merlins@ibm.net 29-Oct-99 01:33:02 To: All 29-Oct-99 11:30:19 Subj: Kill Ia.n.i.!!! It's a Trojan Horse! [EOM] From: Meinolf Sondermann --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Global Network Services - Remote Access Mail & Ne (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: MtLavinia_nospam@nym._nospam.ali... 29-Oct-99 00:51:18 To: All 29-Oct-99 11:30:19 Subj: Re: PINBALL.SYS and FP12? Message sender: MtLavinia_nospam@nym._nospam.alias.net From: "Lavinia" I don't have any problem reading an HPFS partition (FP12) from NT. No change from FP8 -> FP12. L. On Thu, 28 Oct 1999 17:07:26 -0700, J. Weinkam wrote: >On occations, when booting NT, I find that it doesn't recognize my HPFS >partitions. When this happens I shut down NT, boot OS/2 and do CHKDSK >on all HPFS partitions. I then shutdown and start NT and it will >recognize them. You might want to force a CHKDSK of your partitions to >see if it helps. > > >Dave Parsons wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I recently ungraded one of my computers, which can dual boot >> between OS/2 and NT4, from FP8 to FP12. Yesterday I booted to >> NT for the first time since the upgrade and I find that I can >> nolonger see my HPFS partitions from NT. >> I have PINBALL.SYS installed on NT and all the HPFS partitions >> were there last time I booted to NT. >> >> Can anyone else confirm either that pinball & FP12 can see HPFS >> partitions or that a change occurred between FP8 & FP12 that >> stops it working? >> I can't see anything in the readmes, but then I wouldn't really >> expect to since it is not really supported. >> >> TIA, >> -- >> Dave > --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: NeverUmind (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: tvoltagg@home.com 29-Oct-99 11:21:09 To: All 29-Oct-99 14:46:21 Subj: Warp on Toshiba Portege 3110-APM From: tvoltagg@home.com I'm having a problem installing Warp 4 on a Toshiba Portege. I think that it has to do with the APM. 1 - If I am connected to A/C, I have no problems. If I'm running on battery power, I can not load any dos or winos/2 apps. The cpu meter pegs at 100% and it just hangs. OS/2 apps run fine. 2 - Intermittently, reboots or power-on results in the system hanging prior to the boot manager loading. I upgraded to APM ver 1.2 and the latest BIOS. No help. Any ideas? --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Team OS/2 (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: dwilliams9494@my-deja.com 29-Oct-99 11:29:28 To: All 29-Oct-99 14:46:21 Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory From: dwilliams9494@my-deja.com James- We didn't get very scientific about it (for example, we didn't take the time to look at bufferpool stats in the monitors). But we didn't need to: performance fell through the floor when we increased the bufferpools over the 'threshold'. In every other case, available memory dropped when we started and connected to the db and performance was good and consistent. If we exceeded the threshold, available memory didn't drop and performance was horrible. So it appears that we exceeded some 220 MB barrier that causes DB2 not to get the memory (even with > 450 MB available), write error messages to db2diag.log ('The memory for bufferpool and estore cannot be allocated'), and revert back to extremely low default bufferpool sizes. It appears that this occurs when the combined total of all bufferpools plus dbheap exceeds 220 MB (not just a single bp > 220 MB), but again, we haven't taken the time to get too scientific about that. The DB2 support rep is looking through our traces now. Folks have said that DB2 should be able to work around this 220 MB-per-allocation limit, so maybe it's something else. I'll post what comes out of it. I suppose I should ask: Has anyone been able to allocate and use bufferpools larger than 220 MB (>55,000 pages) under OS/2 Warp? Derek Williams In article <38190D50.ED2851E6@rtd.com>, James Moe wrote: > > > dwilliams9494@my-deja.com wrote: > > > > Thanks, Scott and Lorne. We have an OS/2 guru of sorts who helped us > > configure HPFS386 to use an optimal cache size. > > > > But the problem isn't that we're running out of available memory - it's > > that DB2 isn't using it. Memstat is sitting there telling us we have > > 429 MB of available RAM (after DB2 startup, HPFS cache allocation, > > etc), but we take the same configuration and ask for a total of 50,000 > > pages (200 MB) of bufferpool and we don't get it. If we run this > > configuration under Warp workstation, it works just fine. > > > > It's like Warp Server is limiting the amount of memory it'll give to > > running programs. > > > Are you sure that the memory is not being used? That is, have doen > stuff with DB2 that demands the amount of memory allocated? > It may be that the memory is made available to DB2 but not committed > until it is actually needed. > > -- > > sma at rtd dot com > Remove ".spam-not" for email > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Deja.com - Before you buy. (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: nospam_hkelder@capgemini.nl 29-Oct-99 23:02:05 To: All 29-Oct-99 19:49:03 Subj: Re: Warp on Toshiba Portege 3110-APM From: Henk kelder Not sure, but on my Toshiba 490XCDT I seem to have the same problem. It has to do with the power conservation state of the BIOS. If (using TSETUP) it is set to LOW power I have the same. Normally I run at USER settings where CPU Sleep mode has been disabled and CPU runs at full power. (Disabling CPU sleep mode is also advised when running Win9x, because SCANDISK (after faulty shutdown) takes AGES if CPU sleep mode is enabled. I don't know which of these settings actually is the cause. Try experimenting with FN-F2 (At least on the 490 this is for cycling thru power conservations modes - Each press goes to the next mode - full power, low power, user setting). If you do not have TSETUP, try keeping a keyboard key pressed while switching the machine on. During boot an error message will appear from which you can enter the bios setup routines. Henk tvoltagg@home.com wrote: > > I'm having a problem installing Warp 4 on a Toshiba Portege. I think that it > has to do with the APM. > 1 - If I am connected to A/C, I have no problems. If I'm running on battery > power, I can not load any dos or winos/2 apps. The cpu meter pegs at 100% > and it just hangs. OS/2 apps run fine. > 2 - Intermittently, reboots or power-on results in the system hanging prior > to the boot manager loading. > I upgraded to APM ver 1.2 and the latest BIOS. No help. Any ideas? -- Remove nospam when replying.. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: capgemini.nl (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: ilya@math.ohio-state.edu 29-Oct-99 22:10:04 To: All 29-Oct-99 21:24:01 Subj: Re: Warp Server not able to get available memory From: ilya@math.ohio-state.edu (Ilya Zakharevich) [A complimentary Cc of this posting was sent to ], who wrote in article <7vc0fj$ht7$1@nnrp1.deja.com>: > The DB2 support rep is looking through our traces now. Folks have said > that DB2 should be able to work around this 220 MB-per-allocation > limit, so maybe it's something else. I'll post what comes out of it. There is no "220 MB-per-allocation" limit. There is a limit for how much virtual memory an application [*] can see: 512M. A lot of these 512M are reserved for shared areas, DLL areas etc. What remains is somewhat like 220M of virtual memory (this digit is a result of experiments) available for application-requested memory. *No workaround* is possible. [*] Warp 4.5 is reported to be different. Enjoy, Ilya P.S. I repeat that this is *virtual memory*. My first experiments were done on a laptop with 16M of memory and 32M of swap. I could *assign* (without *touching*) myself 220M of virtual memory (due to overcommitment), but no more. So I repeat: it has nothing to do with how much "free" memory do you have. --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State Univers (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: bts@iaehv.nl 30-Oct-99 00:53:05 To: All 29-Oct-99 21:24:01 Subj: Re: Solved: NS 4.61 uses 100% CPU From: "Martin Bartelds" On 28 Oct 1999 05:05:40 GMT, Rich Walsh wrote: :> :>Well, I found something that certainly _looks_ the same - but different. :> :>Using NS4.61, 2048kb mem cache, 128kb disk cache, everything enabled, :>this 128bit-encryption-required page produces 100% CPU usage as soon :>as NS connects and then takes almost two minutes to be displayed. :> :> https://www.firstunion.com/FrontLineLogin.html :> :>However, if I bring up the Preferences notebook, CPU usage drops to :>"normal" and the page displays quickly. In fact, if I already have :>the File->Save as dialog displayed, the problem never occurs at all. :> :>What can I say but ??!???*?? As a matter of fact: It's enough to switch to another application to get normal CPU behaviour back...... :>Rich Walsh | A Distinctly Different Desktop Enhancement /Martin --- WtrGate+ v0.93.p7 sn 165 * Origin: Usenet: BTSoftware (1:109/42) +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +============================================================================+