| From: | Hans-Joerg Frieden |
| Date: | 21 Apr 2000 at 18:30:53 |
| Subject: | Re: Heretic II Demo Available |
On Fri, 21 Apr 2000, Andreas Hippauf wrote:
> Now I must quote myself, but I want you to tell, that I downloaded that
> big archiv of hereticII-demo.
> Be aware, you really need not only a lot of memory but a hell of a
> speedy hardware.
64 Megs isn't so much if you consider the original game needed more
than 100...
> My config is
> A4000 with 96 MB FASTRAM and 68060 with 604PPC at 240 Mhz.
> BUT Cybervision64-3D only. So this machine has a big advantage and I was
> sure of this before. But what can you do, when DCE does not sell new
> graphicscard that are need for this masterpiece of game like an
> cybervisionPPC?
Have you tried software rendering? The ViRGE chip is so slow that you
can pretty much forget about playing Heretic II on it. Even the
intermediate 060 version that we compiled was faster than the ViRGE...
I get 23 FPS on a timerefresh at the beginning of the tutorial, in
512x384, and I get 41 fps in 320x240. That's on a 233 604,
software. While on the high resolution the faster bus of the CVPPC
will make the difference, on the lower res it won't...
> I have an A1200 with 68040 at 25 Mhz and 603e with 166 Mhz
> This one has an permedia2 based graphicscard so I expected it being a
> lot faster than the A4000 in hereticII.
> No chance! It is even slower than my A4000 in software mode!
You must be doing something wrong, or the 68040/25 has a bigger impact
than I thought might be possible. You should not try to use anything
above 640x480, and on such a slow machine you're better off with
400x300 or 320x240, even in hardware - the Permedia's fill rate isn't
exactly gigantic, and the overdraw of the Quake2 engine does the rest...
> Well, I guess you will need the best hardware that is around to get some
> fun in deathmatches with this game. I already played Singleplayer mode
> on PC till nearly finish, so it is for me just intereting in deathmatch
> mode. But here it is too slow!
> :-(
You can actually connect in the demo version by entering "conntect <ip
or hostname>" from the console, I have acceidantially included a
truncated file in the archive (update should appear soon on the web
pages).
> Dont get me wrong! The game itself and the work of hyperion is
> fantastic! It is just the hardware, that is missing. And you cant even
> go to shop and just buy it! :-(
Actually, the game works quite decently on mid-range hardware, like
603/240+060, or 604/160. Don't expect it to run on a CV64/3D, though;
in spite of P5 selling it as a "3D accelerator", it really isn't. And
the Permedia2 is slower than the Voodoo will be...
Regards, Hans-Joerg.