From : Phiz 23 Jan 95 Subj : Red Box Help ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ Okay, here is some helpful info, pass it to everyone, share the wealth... Local calls: You cannot just dial the # then insert money. You must insert money FIRST! Because all local calls cost the same. Problem is that the dial-tone, mutes out the red-box tones... Method 1: Hit 0 You:"Mrs.Operator could you dial a number for me, please?" Operator" Why? You: "This keypad has been vandalized" Operator: "OK That'll be 25 cents" You: "<25cents worth of tones>" Operator"Thank you" or "Go away you redboxing little creep" The operators in MY area have caught on to this above method (#1) Method 2 Dial 411 OPerator: "City pleas?" You: "" OPerator: "Name?" You: "" OPerator: "Thank-you" You: "Mournful of the extra money you're paying deposit enough Quarter(tones) to cover the charge> Method #3 The government makes pay-phone owners let the CUSTOMER decide what LD carrier they want to use. So, find the access code to some LD carriers( you know like 10ATT...) and dial the number (With area code) SOme will reconize this as a local call, some won't, experiment. (I haven't done the above (#3) personally. Long Distance Dial 1-XXX-XXX-XXXX Wait for Mr.Phone to say "Deposit XX cents" Pay with quarter tones (I've found that paying with actual Quarter tones work best, you CAN program 29 *'s and send them, but it dosen't ALWAYS work.) Hope this helps... P H I Z