Thailand

This topic was created by stepfan
[Mon 24 May, 7:48 Tasmanian Standard Time]

QUESTION PLEASE!
Has anyone taken any tours in Northern Thailand, touring
the hilltribes and elephant safaries? Anything good out of
this, can you also refer anyone to me please?
Thanks in advance..

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  1. Tours of North Thailand Added by: White Elephant
    [Timestamp: Mon 24 May, 14:14 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    These tours have been a bog-standard part of every
    tourist's itinerary for the past 20 years. Forget Thailand.



  2. too touristy Added by: Suzie
    [Timestamp: Mon 24 May, 16:50 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Nth Thailand is very beautiful (especially the train trip
    from Bangkok to Chiang Mai). It is very hard though to get
    away from the tourists and find an authentic hill tribe
    village that hasn't seen any tourists.
    The further north you go the less touristy it seems to get.
    I ended up doing a private 4WD tour with the manager of the
    guest house I was staying in in Chiang Rai. The guest house
    was called YA HOUSE and the manager was FIN. The tour was
    good value and the hill tribe village was very out of the
    way although not untouched by other travellers.
    Basically shop around and try to do something different.
    Many of the villages have been majorly exploited especially
    a Karen village near Chiang Rai where you go elephant
    riding. Its sickening to watch rich tourists pile out of
    their boats, dripping in jewellery, take their photos and
    leave.
    Think about the impact you're having on these villages.
    Happy travels.
    Suzie



  3. Human Zoo Added by: Ally
    [Timestamp: Mon 24 May, 20:38 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Only good if you're into going to a human zoo. The hill
    tribe people of Thailand, Laos and Vietnam are all
    exploited by the respective governments of these countries.
    They get little benefit from the money brought into the
    area. If you go please remember to ask permission before
    taking photos. As for hill tribe people asking for $ for
    their photos I believe in giving as it is their image that
    you are taking.



  4. julie-juliette? Added by: diabolic (koenmatthys@hotmail.com)
    [Timestamp: Tue 25 May, 1:42 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    chiang mai is a very touristy place, true, and so are the
    trekkings, but we had great fun on one of julie guesthouse.
    now, one of the good things about it was that the
    hilltribes-part actually was not important at all on her
    trekking, and the only way theminority people are involved
    is that we use their villages as a stop for resting or a
    drink (indeed ..., they come with cocacola and chips, but at
    least the village life goes on as it does daily, and they
    dont all have to go and put on some costume they never use.)
    the guide was good, both informative and interesting, and
    julie/ette is ofcourse the most crazy person in whole of
    chiang mai.
    if you want to see some REAL hilltribes, my advise is sapa,
    vietnam. the minorities there are real, not to mention
    interesting to talk with and friendly. besides is sapa the
    loveliest place in vietnam
    one more thing. please stop giving people money for taking
    pictures. there nothing wrong with giving them money, but
    the link picture-money is just wrong! not to mention the
    impact on their way of thinking and the way they'll soon
    think and feel about themselves... this counts both for
    north of thailand and north of vietnam.



  5. sapa Added by: mt
    [Timestamp: Tue 25 May, 15:21 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    I was in Sa Pa 2 years ago and then it was already on the
    back packer circuit. The hill ttibe people were friendly but
    already were in to the tourist business selling clothes etc
    and the kids had discovered the fine art of asking for
    sweets.
    I preferred Bac Hai, the people there were very different -
    self sufficient, dignified. Their costumes were much more
    colourful than those in Sa Pa and those I recall seeing in
    Thailand many many years ago. I was enamoured with the
    little ponies in Bac Hai - hundreds of them there on market
    day.
    I think the only thing to consider with treks etc is to
    consider if it is exploiting the people and to be conscious
    of the fact that you are in their territory.




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