Travelling to the Philippines

This topic was created by Andrew (adpell@mail.echuca.net.aw)
[Wed 24 March, 22:28 Tasmanian Standard Time]

Hi, we are planning a three week holiday to the Philippines,
and would like some information on a few places.
The first week we will stay on Borocay Island (which has
been organised).
The second week we would like to head to go to Baguio, then
onto Banaue etc. Does anyone have suggestions as to how to
travel around this area and time taken etc. We are limited
with time so is it possible to fly to Baguio? I have read
that there are no longer flights from Manila. I am
concerned that we will not be able to see everything in 5-7
days. Are there any good tours about (that don't cost a
fortune?)
The third week we plan to travel (somehow) to the Palawan.
I'd love to stay in El Nido, but understand it is very
expensive. Is it best to pre-book accomodation or wait
until we get there and the best way to get to Palawan from
Manila? Or any other suggestions of other islands to
visit (with good diving)?
Thankyou.
Andrew & Tara

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  1. Some info Added by: Vger (vger@earthling.net)
    [Timestamp: Thu 25 March, 11:15 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    As for El Nido, travel to the place used to be quite
    difficult until the end of May. March - May is the peak
    of the summer tourist season and you had to reserve around
    two months ahead if you are flying directly to it from
    Manila since only one airline made the flight using a small
    plane. It also gave priority to guests of the resort
    which it owned (or used to own). Of course you could fly to
    Palawan's capital, Puerto Princesa, and ride the 10-12 bus
    or jeep (I forgot)to El Nido. The second option is readily
    available anytime. If you're thinking of diving, other
    options are Moalboal in Cebu or Panglao island in Bohol. I
    forgot the address, but there's a divers' page named
    whitetip or something that has decent info. Use altavista
    or excite to find it.
    As for Banaue, 5-7 days is good enough for a trip. YOu
    could do it two ways--clockwise-->
    Manila-Baguio-Sagada-Banawe-Manila or
    counter-clockwise-->Manila-Banawe-Sagada-Baguio-Manila.
    Either way works, although I prefer counter-clockwise. I
    suggest you limit your time in Baguio (which is a city and
    contains the hassles of a city) and stay more in
    Sagada-Banawe. Seven days will allow you to
    sit around, lounge, and do limited treks within Sagada and
    Banawe. Your only major planning will be scheduling your
    movements between these areas to coincide with local
    transport so that you don't get stuck somehwere in between.



  2. More questions Added by: Bethany (BBaughJ@aol.com)
    [Timestamp: Thu 25 March, 14:31 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    I'm planning a trip, too. Andrew and Tara, I only wish I
    had three weeks. With the time lost flying to and from,
    I'll be in the Philippines for nine full days. We thought
    about Boracay, but I think there's going to be a body
    builder world championship happening the same week. Sounds
    crowded and a bit too muscular for me... so El Nido sounded
    like a great alternative.
    Vger, is there good snorkelling in El Nido? Any
    recommendations for accommodations? We don't need anything
    fancy, just somewhat comfortable.
    Also, any parts of Manila that are a must see? Shops,
    markets, clubs, restaurants? We will have one, maybe two
    days in Manila departing and arriving.
    Thanks! Bethany



  3. A message Added by: vibe (vivbeu@yahoo.com)
    [Timestamp: Thu 25 March, 15:54 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    I read recently posted here said the coral had been ruined around northern Palawan, including El Nido, when a typhoon ripped through there in December. I too am planning to go to El Nido anyway just for the scenery and perhaps I'll find some coral further down the island. If flying is going to be difficult, a ferry/ship may have to do.



  4. fly/boat Added by: vm
    [Timestamp: Thu 25 March, 17:45 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    you can also fly from Manila to Puerto Pricessa then take a
    tour bus to the Underground River and then a boat from
    there on up to Port Barton and then to El Nido. This is a
    regular service of at least 2 times a week each direction.



  5. straight line Added by: Enrique
    [Timestamp: Fri 26 March, 0:35 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    It might be easier to keep heading south to Palawan (or the other islands suggested above) from Panay (Boracay) before heading back north to Manila and Baguio.



  6. Answers? Added by: Vger (see earlier post)
    [Timestamp: Fri 26 March, 4:17 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    I don't have any information from my diving friends about
    how bad El Nido's corals were hit by the typhoon--although
    I've read one or two stories here in the Thorn Tree. But if
    the coral's there, the snorkeling and surrounding
    nature/scenery make the trip worth it. There are a whole
    range of places to stay in El Nido even though not as much
    as most tourist destinations here, although the best ones
    are predictably the most expensive--especially right now at
    the peak of tourist season. As long as you're willing to
    live with what you can find (which isn't that bad), you'll
    make it. And yes, the Puerto-Underground-Barton-El Nido
    route also works. To be honest, I don't like the Soriano
    Air that flies there--they sorta thumb their noses at
    non-resort guests. I may just have read their reactions
    wrongly, but if you do get the same treatment just say -->
    "You're overpriced and you discriminate against non-Filipino
    tourists." Which is true because they charge about P7,000 +
    round trip in the small Dornier while a round trip to Puerto
    Princesa via Philippine Airlines A300s or B737s costs about
    P4,000.00.
    I also think you should finish Visayas before going back to
    Manila for Baguio. Otherwise, you'll be spending a lot
    using Manila as a hub. I really think a more realistic way
    of seeing more islands is to go to Cebu and use it as a hub.
    Visit Surigao (and Siargao island) with a 4-hr ferry from
    Cebu (although if your timing's bad you have to stay
    overnight in Surigao before moving on to Siargao. Siargao
    island, in case you don't know, is really back country--as
    rural as it gets. They use it for surfing. You can also go
    to Bohol or Negros or Camiguin from Cebu. And transpo
    between these islands by boat is cheap, believe me.
    As to what's a must-see in Manila, well that's a really
    difficult question. Some tourists feel that Manila is
    something you musn't see. But I think finding the right
    places at the right time of day gives you a good feel of the
    city while minimizing the hassle that makes some tourists
    not like Manila.
    At nighttime (around 9) I suggest you go to the
    Adriatico/Nakpil streets in the Malate district. Clean
    nightlife with good streetside cafes and many people on
    their feet. Getting a bit summery here, so stay loose and
    cool with your clothes to minimize the discomfort from
    moving around.
    During daytime you can visit the huge malls (makes some
    tourists go eeeeyyyywww) because they're cooler. I'd
    suggest the Glorietta in Makati or Shangri-la along Shaw
    Boulevard since these aren't as full.
    You could visit Intramuros (used to be the old walled
    city of Manila which has Fort Santiago and the very old San
    Agustin church (1600s) and Manila Cathedral. Near
    Intramuros you could find your way to Chinatown and guess
    what to eat. Most of the restaurants there are safe. The
    test is to go there near lunch time and check out where the
    old Chinese folks eat. You could roam there for a couple
    of hours. So an Intramuros-Chinatown walk could eat up
    lunchtime to the afternoon. Morning gets a bit warm so you
    could maybe just sleep it off or lounge around.



  7. Other places Added by: Dana
    [Timestamp: Fri 26 March, 16:51 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    I have been away from my country for a while but here are
    some suggestions aside from the usual Boracay, Baguio etc. -
    Vigan, Catanduanes, Zamboanga, Agoo, Laoag, Camiguin. These
    are less touristy spots.
    Visitors usually don't stay in Manila unless they're on
    business. But when you're there try these restaurants -
    Saisaki (Japanese buffet), Kamayan (Filipino), Aristocrat
    (Filipino), that seafood buffet restaurant in Ermita.
    Points of interest?- Bataan and Corregidor.
    Good luck!



  8. A few added info.. Added by: Eliza (eliza@i-manila.com.ph)
    [Timestamp: Sun 28 March, 0:48 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Just to update that Philippine airlines now flies to Palawan
    DAILY. No more cramped airplanes for you guys planning a
    trip to Palawan....



  9. baguio,banaue Added by: doug (wdhawe@xtra.co.nz)
    [Timestamp: Sun 28 March, 15:20 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    there are still flights from manila to bauio at about 9 and
    ten in the morning from domestic airport,takes under one
    hour about 900pesos discount if you book a few days before.
    many buses from manila to baguio thruout the day.to sagada
    and this is a must visit place there is a lizardo bus at
    around 0630 hrs from the dangwa tranco terminal in baguio
    no prebooking if you want a seat get there early ,the
    halsema road is quite an experience takes about 8 hours
    from baguio to sagada and is 65pesos each.sagada to banaue
    via bontoc jeepneys leave from 0600 and are mornings only
    departures about 25 pesos sagada to bontoc then change
    again to another jeepney to banaue,plenty available ,try
    the bakery in bontoc while waiting for your jeepney.
    the other must is batad a hair raising trip from banaue to
    the junction as it is known locally then a two to two and a
    half hour walk up over the pass and down into the village
    of batad ,with the walk you earn the privilege of looking
    down at this wonderful place,do stay the night and then
    head back to banaue.buses available from banaue to manila
    and other destinations.
    enjoy your trip my email add is there if you want any other
    info,have only just got back and info is fresh.



  10. Info for all those asking Added by: Nancy (n_abeleda@hotmail.com)
    [Timestamp: Sun 28 March, 17:05 Tasmanian Standard Time]


    Andrew - It is possible to fly to Baguio via Air
    Philippines. Not sure if there are any good tours which dont
    cost a fortune. What would u consider a good price? I might
    ask around for u.
    El Nido - There are cheap accomodations but in town. For a
    less expensive beach resort type accomodation, try out the
    Malapacao Island Retreat. You can get pretty good rates if
    you stay for 8 days at least. However, you will have to be a
    non-smoker and not mind a vegetarian diet.
    http://members.xoom.com/NAbeleda/MIRA.htm
    Other suggested routes to El Nido :
    via Coron/Busuanga - fly out there from Manila, stay a few
    days for diving (wreck diving), time it so you can catch the
    weekly ferry out (Tuesday mornings) to Liminangcong. From
    there you could ask your El Nido accomodation to come pick u
    up. Its only an hour's lovely boat ride away from El Nido.
    from Manila - via the MV Salve Juliana, a 24 hour very
    comfortable air con ship travel for less than a P1000. You
    will land in Liminangcong and again ask your accomodation to
    come pick u up.
    You might also want to consider Puerto Galera which is one
    of the Premiere dive spots/snorkelling spots in the country.
    Bethany - excellent snorkelling in El Nido. Not too sure
    about the typhoon damage on it, but Im certain there are
    quite a good bit intact. If you have only 9 days though,
    wouldnt recommend going there because you would need that
    Air Soriano flight to save time and they will only confirm 5
    days before. You can wait till then to change your plans if
    u like though.
    It might be better for you to go to Puerto Princessa,
    Palawan and go to Port Barton/Honda Bay area.
    Manila Shopping - Megamall, Tutuban Center( The crowd might
    overwhel u though), Check out Balikbayan Handicrafts in
    Pasay Road Makati (near Glorietta).
    Email me if you'd like further info.



  11. THANKYOU FOR RESPONSES Added by: Andrew & Tara
    [Timestamp: Tue 30 March, 21:11 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Thankyou everyone who responded to our question. We are
    sorry we haven't answered back but have been away for a
    week.
    The responses were greatly appreciated.
    Any other comments, ideas on the Philippnies would be
    appreciated as we will still be watching this post.



  12. Palawan Resorts Added by: Samba
    [Timestamp: Sun 4 April, 8:22 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    I suggest you Flower Island (in Taytay) and CocoLoco Island
    (in Roxas)(about 20$ per day). Great places on earth.



  13. diveshops Added by: Matts (mrunge@gmx.net)
    [Timestamp: Mon 5 April, 2:09 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    hi!
    does anyone know diveshops on palawan which are looking for
    a divemaster for 2 or 3 weeks? no payment just free dives!
    cheers from germany!
    Matts



  14. Diving! Added by: MLO (holiver@usinc.net)
    [Timestamp: Tue 6 April, 1:28 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    If you'd like to go on a week-end (or day, even) dive trip
    not too far from Manila (2 1/2 hours away, max), the dive
    spots in Anilao, Batangas are excellent (the best probably
    in mainland Luzon). There's a whole array of dive resorts
    available, most with excellent facilities (I would
    recommend Balai or Dive and Trek for a mid-range budget and
    Eagle Point for high-end). You can hook up with any of
    your friendly neigborhood diveshops (ScubaWorld in Makati,
    for one) for dive tours. However, if you're really serious
    about going, I can recommend a diving group that goes on
    regular week-end dives (I can e-mail you their e-mail
    address if you like). Puerto Galera in Mindoro is also
    good for its beaches and dive spots and is great quickie
    destination if you're strapped for time. You may also want
    to try the beaches up North...San Juan in La Union (6 hrs
    from Manila) is a great surfing site, and the black beaches
    in Bauang are pretty OK.
    Since you're going up to Banaue, I highly recommend a few
    days' stay at Sagada (which is like 3 1/2 hours away) which
    is definitely a MUST-SEE for anyone visiting the
    Philippines. It's good value for your money (rooms for
    $2.25 per person and meals at $1.50! Be sure to bring a
    portable water heater tho) and the trekking is incomparable
    (if you're into spelunking, this is one place you shouldn't
    miss).
    El Nido's rates are way too steep for my taste, and since
    you're going to Boracay anyway, I'd probably pass on this
    place if I were you...but if you have the moolah by all
    means go! On the other hand, you may want to make the trip
    to Puerto Princesa in Palawan instead (doesnt hurt the
    pocketbook as much) and go island hopping on Honda Bay; you
    can also set off to see the other attractions of the island
    (the Underground River, and the sociologically interesting
    Iwahig Penal Colony) from there.
    Manila's malls offer great bargains, but for even more
    awesome buys, check out where the locals shop. If you're
    daring enough you can come away from Divisoria, Tutuban,
    Central Market, Zurbaran or even the Greenhills Arcade with
    a whole trunkload of stuff for a few dollars.
    Have a great visit!



  15. Bad Manilla Accomodation Added by: Risa
    [Timestamp: Tue 6 April, 18:27 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Don't stay at the Villa Caroline Townhouse in Paranaque,
    Manilla. Even though it may seem cheap, they overcharge
    you and getting money back is futile. They yell at their
    guests and don't keep the place clean or in good repair.
    Avoid this place at all costs.



  16. El Nido a must Added by: Kristine (kfonacier@death-star.com)
    [Timestamp: Tue 13 April, 20:13 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    El Nido needn't be expensive, and the trip will be well
    worth it. If you have money to spend, you can book at the
    Marina del Nido--easily the best (definitely the quietest)
    of the resorts in the area--but if you're cutting down on
    expenses, it's also possible to stay in town for very cheap.
    I was there to research a travel article about the place a
    few years ago, and I have yet to see a place equal to its
    beauty.
    Baguio isn't all that great a place, so if you're planning
    to go north, I suggest instead that you take the
    Manila-Banaue-Bontoc-Sagada route, although that will take
    longer.
    Three weeks seems a bit tight to go around the
    Philippines--travel between the islands takes a while, and
    you'll find that it's virtually impossible to resist the
    overwhelming urge to slow down! Consider trimming your
    itinerary and spending more time at one place.



  17. Tribal Adventures Added by: Jon
    [Timestamp: Thu 15 April, 4:41 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Hi guys
    I heard of an outfitter that does white water rafting in Northern Luzon. May I suggest that you check it out. Sounds interesting. There is an article on a business daily
    www.BWORLD.COM.PH under DESTINATIONS then check it out under ARCHIVES FEB.5/99.
    It also has an article on the 10 best beaches in the Philippines. Read the article on PAGUDPUD cause I think the rafting tour ends somewhere close to this white sand beach. By the way PAGUDPUD is situated in Northern Luzon (Ilocos Norte) if you like to find it in the map. Check out the northwestern part of Luzon almost on the tip . Goodluck
    Tried to e-mail but couldnt get through.
    Jon



  18. answer Added by: mang pandoy
    [Timestamp: Tue 4 May, 21:00 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    try the philippine tourism website: www.tourism.gov.ph and
    other phil. websites like www.lakbay.net and if you still
    have time, try our local search engine www.yehey.com



  19. Baguio--suggested itinerary Added by: Cara
    [Timestamp: Sat 8 May, 17:52 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    You don't need an entire week in Baguio, but it's a great
    take-off point for the other places farther up north which
    are FANTASTIC.
    Baguio is a really tiny city, and you can see everything in
    a day or two. Locals go there for the weather and the
    shopping more than anything else. If you're a shopper,
    definitely go to the Baguio market, you can find incredible
    buys there at the lowest, lowest prices. The easiest way
    to get around Baguio is via taxi. The taxi fare rarely
    goes over one US dollar. You might want to spend an
    evening in Cafe by the Ruins (if it's still there), ask the
    waiters to prepare a bonfire on the the dap-ay (a rock
    formation where tribal elders meet) and drink tapuy
    (Cordillera rice wine).
    From Baguio, take a bus up to Sagada. It's LOONG (7 to 9
    hours) and ... er ... not exactly the most comfortable ride
    in the world (part of the Sagada adventure is the journey
    there). There are several lodging houses where you can
    stay for around 2 to 3 US dollars a night. In the town
    proper, you might want to visit the cemetery and echo
    valley ... or buy Sagada-woven clothes.
    Set aside AT LEAST an entire day for the REAL Sagada
    adventure--spelunking and mountain hiking. You can catch a
    GORGEOUS view of the rice terraces, less than an hour's
    walk away from the town proper. After that, a must-see is
    the hanging coffins in the ancient burial caves (just ask
    for a guide to take you there--you can inquire about guides
    at most restaurants)--be sure you have a flashlight with
    you, and some snacks. If you really enjoy spelunking, a
    single day won't be enough, because there are around 20
    GORGEOUS caves to choose from ....
    After a day or two in Sagada, you can take a jeepney ride
    to Bontoc. Have your camera with you in the jeepney--the
    view is breathtaking! From there, you can visit more rice
    terraces, or visit the hot springs.
    From Bontoc, it's a 2-3 hour bus-ride to Banaue. Water
    falls, natural pools, rice terraces, mountains (if you're
    into mountaineering), forests ... hiking galore for the
    nature lover. If you're more into "cultural" sightseeing,
    take a tour of the villages and check out the weaving, and
    woodcarving.
    That should be a good, FULL week-long trip up north.
    Caveat: Prepare yourself for the rough, winding roads and
    the high altitude.



  20. more on Baguio Added by: Cara
    [Timestamp: Sat 8 May, 18:05 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    How could I forget? Visit the Tam-awan village as well.
    It's a replica of a tribal village--in case you don't have
    the time or energy to go to look for the real thing.
    Oh, and the hotels in Sagada have a curfew--I just don't
    remember the exact time.



  21. Low Season Added by: Snail
    [Timestamp: Fri 14 May, 9:43 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    It's low season in the Philippines right now. Anyone going
    out to the islands should try haggling for lower rates,
    especially if there are lots of accommodations and few
    people around.



  22. Go south Added by: The hardy ones
    [Timestamp: Fri 14 May, 21:43 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Rainstorms are becoming common in Manila now. Don't go out
    for a couple of hours after the rain because traffic gets
    really messed up.
    Just came back from the South. Cebu weather is still OK.
    Went to Bantayan island. Many people in the more popular
    Kota resort but less as you go around the island. Also
    tried out Bohol and the diving is good. No serious weather
    problems--just an hourlong downpour. Stay out of the rain
    and you'll be OK after
    We also stayed for a couple of days in General Santos city.
    Ate lotsa fish. Huge ones the size of baseball bat were
    going for about 10$ only. We are planning on moving to
    Sagada for a week there. Will update you all. Although
    they say we should watch out for the roads i




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