World Tour 1999-2000

This topic was created by Smith Family Sabbatical (jls_sabbatical@hotmail.com)
[Tue 26 Jan, 4:07 Tasmanian Standard Time]

We are a family of 5 leaving Portland Oregon on 15 August
1999 for a 1 year sabbatical around the world.
Countries include: Canada, Greenland, Iceland, Scotland,
Ireland, England, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland, Russia,
Poland, Lithuania, Belarus, Austria, Luxemurg,
Liechtenstein, Germany, Switzerland, Italy, France, Spain,
Portugal, Morocco, Egypt, South Africa, Israel, Syria,
Turkey, Greece, India, China, Viet Nam, Japan, Australia,
New Zealand, Mexico, South America, Caribbean and back to
America, hopefully in one piece.
If any of you are from any of these countries or have been
to them I need information regarding places to stay that
are not too expensive, how to feed 3 hungry teenagers
without going broke, how to travel inxepensively but
safely, any safety issues, where to go what to see, any
advice on anything you think we should know. Or if we can
help you plan your trip to America or around the world
please contact us. Thank you for your help. The Smith's

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  1. trip Added by: dwayne
    [Timestamp: Tue 26 Jan, 13:06 Tasmanian Standard Time]


    This really sounds great . I have three young kids
    and have started plans of travel with them.
    The only advice I would give from what you have
    stated is that syria will not let you in if your
    passport has anything to do with isreal on it.
    I suggest you go there first and be sure your passport
    has no stamps from isreal.
    I am off to Vietnam in two days so I will keep my eye
    on some ideas for you if you are still posted when I get
    back
    good luck



  2. no advice Added by: uneven (evand@nt1.altanewsprint.ca)
    [Timestamp: Tue 26 Jan, 15:37 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    I am in the same situation as dwayne, 3 children aged 8,6,4 and just starting travel hopes.
    If you are interested in corresponding I would love to hear of your adventures.
    Good luck on this most excellent adventure.



  3. israel stamps Added by: Anna (trahaira@lion.cs.latrobe.edu.au)
    [Timestamp: Wed 27 Jan, 11:53 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    You can apparently ask Israeli immigration to stamp a piece
    of paper instead of your passport. Ask as you hand it over
    so that they don't get to it before you can say something.
    I live in Australia, so if you have any specific questions,
    I might be able to help you (it's a big place!).



  4. Switzerland Added by: Mirjana (mirjana.rumin@systor.com)
    [Timestamp: Wed 27 Jan, 22:58 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Hi there
    I live in Basle, Switzerland. If you come to Basle the
    cheapest way to stay here is the youth hostel. If you need a
    hotel then you go better cross the frontier on go over to
    Germany.
    If you travel by train: buy a 'family-card' for CHF 20.- so
    all the kids travel for free. With the 'Halb-tax-card' you
    travel for half the price (CHF 150.- valable for 1 year).
    If you need more information, drop my a line.



  5. world tour 1999-2000 Added by: Ulla Kraemer (uk@rosendahls.dk)
    [Timestamp: Tue 2 Feb, 19:32 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Hi,
    The cheapest hotel in Copenhagen is "Cab-inn"
    Let me know what you want to se in Copenhagen and what time of the year your are coming, and I will produce a traveller guide for you. Remeber the best time to Denmark are in the summer, june or august
    Send some more info on the mail
    Ulla



  6. Wow Added by: Jan
    [Timestamp: Thu 4 Feb, 3:44 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    What great parents! Well, Japan will be very expensive,
    you'll have to live on noodles, a cheap bowl being about
    US$4-5; contact your nearest JNTO (Japan National Tourist
    Office) for details of ryokan (traditional inns) that are
    reasonably priced. But then China is dirt cheap!
    If you come to HK I can highly recommend taking a tour to
    see the pink dolphins, I think HK Dolphinwatch has a web
    site or check with HKTA. Happy Trails!



  7. Austria Added by: Andrea (h8450257@gutemine.wu-wien.ac.at)
    [Timestamp: Sat 6 Feb, 1:15 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Hi,
    I am from Vienna, Austria, and I can give you information
    about my hometown.I┤m waiting for your mail.



  8. Overload Added by: DBT
    [Timestamp: Sat 6 Feb, 10:50 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    You're literally doing the whole world. You are really
    going to have to rush, and only touch on the big countries
    like China, Canada, India, Mexico, Australia, and Russia.
    Yikes, are you sure that you will even have time to leave
    all those airports???



  9. Travel Added by: Jens Brⁿnings-Hansen (jensb@vip.cybercity.dk)
    [Timestamp: Tue 9 Feb, 0:53 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Experienced travellers living in Denmark, ┼rhus (eastcoast
    of Jutland). Can help you with any (almost) question you
    wish.
    All the best. Jens



  10. Belgium Added by: magda (dl@skypro.be)
    [Timestamp: Thu 11 Feb, 5:47 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Hello,
    We are a family (also 3 children) living in Belgium between
    Brussels and Antwerp.If you want info just e-mail us.
    We travelled with our kids to a lot of European
    countries,Turkey,Syria ,Thailand and in a few weeks we are
    leaving for Rajasthan (India).
    Have a nice trip but do not want to do to much .



  11. trip Added by: dwayne (dcoad@sympatico.ca)
    [Timestamp: Tue 16 Feb, 12:51 Tasmanian Standard Time]


    Well nice to see you are still posted. I just returned
    from Viet Nam and can likely answer any questions you may
    have @ that country. I live in Canada and again can give you
    some hints. I will be going to England in Sept with all
    three kids, and Vancouver in May. My e-mail is posted so
    feel free to write with any specific questions. Good luck.
    Dwayne in Canada



  12. trip Added by: dwayne (dcoad@sympatico.ca)
    [Timestamp: Tue 16 Feb, 12:51 Tasmanian Standard Time]


    Well nice to see you are still posted. I just returned
    from Viet Nam and can likely answer any questions you may
    have @ that country. I live in Canada and again can give you
    some hints. I will be going to England in Sept with all
    three kids, and Vancouver in May. My e-mail is posted so
    feel free to write with any specific questions. Good luck.
    Dwayne in Canada



  13. travel with kids Added by: Susan (stsmith@aol.com)
    [Timestamp: Mon 22 Feb, 8:45 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    My husband and I took our boys, 10 and 11, to Europe
    (Amsterdam, Salzburg, Varenna on Lake Como, Murren, Arles,
    and Paris) for 3 weeks in '97. The two of us backpacked
    and worked our way through Europe, Israel, and Egypt for a
    year before kids. Travel with them is slower but very
    rewarding. Don't know the ages of your kids but many
    people we saw travelling with teenagers were questioning
    that decision. Seems all the kids wanted to do was sleep
    and listen to their Walkmans. I'm sure all kids are not
    like that though. Our kids liked hiking and outdoor
    activities the best. Museums were not their favorites, but
    we played a scavenger hunt game when we went and they liked
    that. (Visit the gift shop first and let them buy cards of
    favorite paintings, etc. Then each person has to find
    his/her paintings in the museum) We used Rick Steves'
    books and a book called "Taking Your Kids to Europe" by
    Cynthia Harriman for all our travel advice. Here are other
    tips that we are passing on:
    1)Scope out the local laundromat when you arrive in a
    city. You won't believe how much time you will spend
    there. We had rainy, very cool weather during our trip and
    were unable to wash out our clothes in hotel rooms.
    2)Don't move too quickly. "Live" in a place for awhile.
    Travel gets old real fast and it's nice to stay put and get
    to know how the people carry out their daily lives.
    3)We alternated train travel with car travel. You see a
    whole different country when you have a car. Both kinds of
    travel have their benefits.
    4)Staying in small towns is better than staying in large
    cities because your kids can have more freedom to leave the
    hotel. You wouldn't want them to go on a major excursion
    alone, but you might want to let them go next door for an
    ice cream cone or go to the park across the street to toss
    a football.
    Hope this was helpful. If you would like more info, e-mail
    me and I will try to answer any questions.



  14. Some thoughts Added by: Mikec (mjcollins@tinet.ie)
    [Timestamp: Tue 2 March, 1:10 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Sounds like a grand plan. We hope to do something similar
    in 2000 for 1 - 2 years (our kids are 6 and 8 - we live in
    Ireland).Some thoughts:
    - A home exchange can be an excellent way of establishing
    a base in e.g. Europe e.g. in South East of England and
    organise excursions around Europe from this base (you can
    get to France/Holland/Belgium by car from London within a
    day through the chunnel or by ferry)This can be done from
    1week to 2 months. Many exchange organisations often
    feature Australia/ South Africa etc.
    - Camping in Europe (esp. France/Italy/Neth/Germany) is a
    good low cost way of getting accomodation. A lot of
    campsites border on the luxurious.
    - Another thought would be to "jettison" the 3 hungry
    teenagers into a camp for 1-2 weeks (e.g. learn to sail off
    the coast of England/Ireland - these can be quite low cost,
    all inclusive and they get to meet folks their own ages
    from all around) - while Mom and Dad do their travelling.
    Everybody needs a break from each other at some time!
    Hope this helps - good luck with your trip,
    Mike Collins



  15. why not Austria? Added by: Heidi Bammer (treehousehotel@hotmail.com)
    [Timestamp: Tue 23 March, 21:30 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    I happen to run a backpacker hotel called the Treehouse, in a small village in Upper Austria called Gruenau. I am also a mother of two little boys ages 3 & 5. Our house is located across the street from a very inexpensive ski field and we have horseback riding, hiking, bikes, tennis & alot for your kids to do, or not to do if you just want to kick back and relax a little bit. I've travelled with my own kids and know what its like to be on the go all the time. Its alot of fun and a lot of work!
    We are located between Salzburg and Vienna so there are possibilities for day trips too. If you would like more information, please write or call/fax. E-mail: treehousehotel@hotmail.com Ph. 43 7616 8499 Fax: 43 7616 8599. Gruenua also has a website: www.tiscover.com/gruenau
    I hope you have a great trip! All the best,
    Heidi Bammer



  16. Information about Finland Added by: paivi (pisara@sci.fi)
    [Timestamp: Thu 8 April, 19:13 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    Welcome to Finland! Our northern and beautiful country is
    ideal destination for a family. Safe, clean and not anymore
    so expensive. I have a company organaising tours in Finland
    mainly for individuals. So if you need any help I'd be
    pleased to help and give you good advise.
    I've also been travelling a lot with my family (3 y/o boy),
    Last time we were in Malaysia. It was great!
    Hope to hear from you!
    PΣivi Hartman



  17. New Zealand Youth Hostels are good Added by: Hilary
    [Timestamp: Sat 15 May, 1:50 Tasmanian Standard Time]

    In New Zealand the Youth Hostels cater very well to family
    groups, and often have young New Zealand travellers in them
    too - so your kids might make some friends.
    *
    The settling in a couple of places idea is also good. Here
    are a couple of places in New Zealand with good hostels
    where you could settle and catch your breath for a week.
    * Wellington
    *
    Wellington is the capital city and is set around a stunning
    harbour. The Youth Hostel there is right on the harbour,
    and also in the centre of town, under ten minutes to the
    national museum (which would be great for kids), the
    library, movies, cafes, etc. It is right next to a huge
    supermarket too, so self-catering would be easy. The YH
    was converted from a hotel, so it would be a great place to
    relax cheaply in relative comfort. My siblings and I were
    all let loose in the Wellington streets from ages 12 up,
    and a self-led tour to the museum, for example, is
    completely feasible. Another idea, if you are Methodist,
    is to visit Wesley church on Taranaki Street, it has
    English, Tongan, Samoan and Fijian Services - so if you
    catch them in the service a month they all share you could
    have a wonderful Pacific experience.
    *
    Nelson
    *
    Nelson is a small town at the top of the South Island -
    stay at the YH (a lovely big old house), or in summer at
    Tahuna Beach camp. Nelson is very sunny, by the sea, and
    is quite arty, many alternative lifestylers, etc, now live
    here. It is a good place to start in the South Island, and
    a good base for the wonderful Abel Tasman National Park
    nearby.




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