Amigo I read your words on the Shroud of Turin but I have an
interesting question for you on another topic. I think
someone already asked you this question before and I don't
think you answered it, I was disapointed so I'll ask it
again. It is, How did Noah collect two of each of the
millions of species regardless of their geographical
distribution on the planet, including all subspecies of
nematodes and freshwater plankton? I'd like to hear this
one...
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Noah didn't collect the animals - God caused them to come to
him. And who says he needed to take "millions of species"?
Two of each "KIND" the Bible says! Creation scientists have
calculated that only a few thousand pairs of animals would
have needed to be taken, and many of these would have been
tiny. The animals would have taken up no more than
one of the three floors of the ark. And surely you don't
think plankton and other organisms that can live in water
needed to be taken on board?
I guess so but where did all that water come from during the
Great Flood, wasn't there more than 40 feet of water? The
water covered the whole earth, so could they see Everest
which I think is about 30,000 feet? Really?
Well Questioner, the water came from two sources, according
to the Bible (1) "the windows of heaven" - probably the
collapse of a water vapour canopy and (2) "fountains of the
great deep" - water from inside the earth. There is no need
to think that pre-flood mountains were as high as today
(Everest is 29,000 feet high now).
I'd like to know if Adam and Eve's children commited incest?
The question isn't where the water came from, but where it
went. "Forty feet" must be being confused with "40 days and
40 nights"; 30,000 feet would have been required.
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So the animals all assembled in pairs on short notice from
all over the world in Palestine to be saved. The question
then arises, what did the tree sloths find to eat when they
landed on Ararat, how did they make their way from there to
South America over a drowned and lifeless landscape, and
where did the trees and insects, etc., required to make the
Amazonian ecosystem come from to sustain them on arrival?
Did Noah have two of each kind of mold, fungus, insect, etc.
on hand as well?
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God, I'd love to have seen a pair of plucky millipedes
hoofing it across the Atlantic.
I was asked that once before, but my answer is NO. Laws
against incest came in Moses' time. Adam and Eve's
children(see Genesis 5:4) intermarried without problems
because there were no harmful mutations at that early stage
of human history about 6 thousand years ago. This is a
brief answer but I hope that helps? Addios.
........when did the continental drift and the break up of
Pangea occur?
Questioner, I'd say the continental drift occured probably
during the flood or soon after.
I'd say the water went back where it came from karlo, if the
environment can produce it then it can re-produce it.
he
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Why is 99% of our DNA structure the same as Chimpanzes?
Well my friend, the figure usually given is nearer 95%
similarity. Why wouldn't God have been effecient and used
similar plans for different members of His creation? The
differences between apes and humans are VAST! For instance,
apes don't send E-mail and ask questions about how they came
to be!
Is there proof for the Big Bang theory?
Man you guys have to many questions, why do you ask me? Why
don't you find a scientist(creationist) who can answer you
even better than I? Anyway student, about the weak Big Bang
theory, my answer is NO. After all who was there to witness
how the universe bagan? God was there, and He has told us
how He did it! Read your Bible.
you're really good! You've got an answer for everything.
It's still all made up though
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Back at work again and have 'read myself in' through the
overnight posts on the Turin topic. Amigo you're being
naughty again. You can't prove your point by finding one
exception and then evading half the argument. Viz:
There may well have been a jade statue that threw up carbon
dating anomalies. That doesn't make the countless millions
of other corroborating experiments using carbon dating
invalid. There is not 'a mad scientist' who is singly
responsible for one or two bits of carbon dating. Evbery bit
of carbon dating every performed would have to be out by a
factor of thousands to support your 6000 year claim.
Science, as you singularly fail to recognise, is about
making observations, gathering data, performing experiments,
checking them agains previous results, adjusting the
hypothesis and then making more observatiosn.... It does not
start with a pre-supposed belief that is solely supported by
the elements of the pre-supposed belief. (The Bible is true
because it's God's word because the Bible tells us God
exists.)
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We've been through this Ark thing before but once again,
it's just not possible to build a re-established population
from one breeding pair. Even the most illiterate Malian
herdsman knows that you can't breed sibling goats together
without severe defects showing up before long. That's why
virtually every society on Earth has incest taboos,
including our Judaeo-Christian one.
Your geological assertions are pretty laughable. Continental
drift is measurable and our continents didn't just start
surfing rapidly around a few dozen centuries ago. Your
Biblical mountains would have been much the same height as
they are now. Mountains are not pimples. They don't pop up
and down over centuries but are formed by geological
pressures that act over time.
By the way, where in the Genesis time line does the Flood
occur? How long after Adam & Eve?
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Not two of each kind. Read it again.Two of each kind of
every beast that was unclean. Clean beasts were brought into
the ark in sevens as were flying creatures.(Genesis 7:2-3)
From today's science news. Note, as I'm sure Amigo will,
that there is some discrepancy, but only a factor of 10%,
which for purposes of discerning if the universe is only
6000 years old doesn't really enter the equation. (I also
like to include both sides of the argument.)
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Yahoo! News AP Headlines
Tuesday May 25 5:26 PM ET
NASA: Universe 12 Billion Years Old
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AstronomyáandáSpaceáNews
By PAUL RECER AP Science Writer
WASHINGTON (AP) - Precise measurements of the distance to
certain stars suggests the universe is about 12 billion
years old, somewhat younger than earlier estimates, a team
of NASA astronomers announced Tuesday.
Other experts, however, immediately said NASA's results are
in error and that a solution to one of the basic questions
in astronomy is still unknown.
A team of 27 astronomers funded by NASA and led by Wendy
Freedman of the Carnegie Institute of Washington announced
completion of an eight-year effort to measure the distance
to 800 special stars in order to calculate the speed at
which all of the galaxies in the universe are moving apart.
Calculating that separation speed, called the Hubble
constant, was a top priority of NASA's space telescope
because the result is a critical factor in determining the
age of the universe, Freedman said Tuesday at a news
conference.
Freedman said that the Hubble constant was determined to an
accuracy of 10 percent and when this value is combined with
other measurements it gives an estimated age of the universe
of about 12 billion years.
This number may rise slightly, to perhaps, 13.5 billion
years, she said, if assumptions about the amount of matter
in the universe change with further study.
NASA's announcement was quickly denounced by Allan Sandage,
a legendary astronomer and head of a Carnegie Observatories
team in Pasadena, Calif. that has searched for the Hubble
constant since 1968.
``If NASA is giving the impression that the problem is
solved, then we would dispute that,'' Sandage said in a
telephone interview. ``They have announced a final number
and they are not correct.''
Astronomers have been searching for the Hubble constant
since 1929 when astronomer Edwin Hubble first found that
distant galaxies are moving away from the Earth faster than
are nearby galaxies. Astronomers express the Hubble constant
by measuring the acceleration rate for every 3.26 million
light years in distance.
Calculations using ground telescopes have ranged up to 558,
but Freedman said new measurements taken with the space
telescope has refined acceleration rate to 70 kilometers per
second. This means that a galaxy is moving 160,000 miles per
hour faster for every 3.3 light years it is away from the
Earth. Freedman said her figure was accurate within 10
percent.
Sandage said NASA's new number is still too high.
``We've said all along that the correct number is about
55,'' he said. This would give an age of the universe of 14
to 18 billion years, depending on what is assumed about the
mass in the universe, Sandage said.
The expanding universe supports the Big Bang theory, the
idea that the universe began when all matter was compressed
into a single point that then exploded. The theory states
that the universe has been expanding ever since.
Recent studies also have shown that the universe probably
will expand forever. Some researchers also believe that the
expansion is speeding up due to a force that accelerates
matter. Existence of this force is still controversial.
Freedman said that the age of the universe will finally be
determined when other researchers have more precisely
measured the mass and the effect of the mysterious force.
The NASA team reached their Hubble constant number by
measuring the distance to a type of star, called a Cepheid,
that pulsates at a known rate and strength. By measuring
Cepheids in 18 galaxies out to 65 million light years, said
Freedman, the team established the rate of expansion.
Sandage said his team measured distances to nine star
explosions, called supernovae, and then confirmed these
distances with Cepheid measurements. He said this method is
more accurate.
Both teams used the Hubble Space Telescope which can study
stellar detail that is unseen by ground telescopes.
Despite the difference in numbers, Robert Kirshner of
Harvard, head of a third team studying the Hubble constant,
said astronomers are slowly moving toward agreement.
``We used to disagree by a factor of two,'' which he said
was ``like arguing about having one foot or two.''
A disagreement of 10 percent, said Kirshner, ``is like a
differenc
Hey Amigo, I like your statement in your post #1 explaining
how the animals got to the ark: "God caused them to come
to him." Seems you are moving away from your pseudo-
scientific theories, and getting back to a faith based
argument that I think everyone here will find a lot more
acceptable. I would have a lot more respect for you if you
just gave up your bogus scientific approach, and just
accepted your beliefs based entirely on faith.