Message 46424

From :"Mikey C" <michael.carrillo@ukonline.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: ami yellow pages
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 04:27:08 -0800
matthew o'neill <mas-@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=48622
> On 22-Feb-00, Mikey C wrote:
> 

> Grabs dictionary........ Oi! I'm trying to hep the site and all you
can do
> is have a go at me, naff off!

Helpful? Your tone of writting comes across to me as aggressive. 

It was on Excite, webcrawler, hotbot and several others. (I couldn't
get Yahoo to put AYP on there despite repeated requests)

BTW, I started Amiga Yellow Pages towards the end of July '98. By the
time it had gone "off the air" a fortnight ago, It was just under the
30,000 mark. Not brilliant, but certainly not bad either. 

Someone somewhere must have heard of it.

Besides, I have had a stack of emails from people telling me how much
they valued the service and how they miss it.

I didn't do too badly surely? It was mentioned in AF and CU Amiga too.
:P

Regards

Mikey C








Message 46425

From :"Ben Vost" <ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: Tutorial dearth
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 12:24:59 +0000
Hi David,

> Some sort of internet not-for-getting-connected-but-server-y-type thing?

> Like setup/using/maintaining a web site using apache (sorry, first
> thing that came to mind). Similarly, FTP, IRC server, etc. And you
> could work in that other suggestion of internet security that someone
> mentioned a couple of days ago. You can always check your stuff without
> needing to be online by using the loopback address.

> Or would that be too much work/complexity/not big enough audience*
> (* delete as appropriate)

Like it.

All the best,
-- 
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: (+44) 01225 442244
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: (+44) 01225 732275
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
"Urr, bomb da chicken!" - Fuzzycows





Message 46426

From :"Kevin Fairhurst" <redvers@redvers.u-net.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: Tutorial dearth
Date: 23 Feb 2000 12:30:34 +0000
On Wed, 23 Feb 2000 12:19:42 +0000, Ben Vost (ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk) wrote:
> Hi Kevin,

Hello

> Okay. the tutorial ideas I want are for "long-term" tutorials, six chapters
> or so.

Hmmm, thinking cap at the ready ...

> > Has there been a photogenics tutorial?  Cos I've just bought that.  Or
> > how's about a series on setting up OS3.5 for optimum use, followed by
> > patches and things ??
> 
> There hasn't been a photogenics tutorial, but Paul Nolan and I have been
> discussing him writing one for us.

I didn't think i'd seen one, so that's an idea ....

> A "getting the most from Workbench" kind of thing is also on my list of
> possibles, but what would you guys (my very own focus group) want from it?

Free beer?  Oh it's not that sort of request.  It'd need to cover the
basics about installing it all, and then the boing bag (btw any news on BB2
yet?), and covering problems that might arise from it such as the rogue
C:Installer problem.  Then there's setting up patches with it such as
TweakWB and the like.  Then of course there's getting the FastIPrefs
version of WBPattern to lock the palette for MWB ....

Hope this is a good start ...

Kev

-- 
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM




Message 46427

From :"Paul Laycock" <amipal@yahoo.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: Tutorial dearth
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 04:33:09 -0800
Hi Ben,

> >> Two more tutorials came to an end in the issue we've just
finished, so
> >> I'm on the lookout for more to replace them. Any suggestions?

> Okay. the tutorial ideas I want are for "long-term" tutorials, six
chapters
> or so.

> There hasn't been a photogenics tutorial, but Paul Nolan and I have
been
> discussing him writing one for us.
> 
> A "getting the most from Workbench" kind of thing is also on my list
of
> possibles, but what would you guys (my very own focus group) want
from it?

I'd like a "getting the most out of OS3.5" type thing. Maybe you could
print a list of programs which have been specifically designed for it,
and also ones which have problems (advice on how to fix).

I know DOpus keeps being done, but I can't get enough of it! More DOpus!

Photogenics would be pretty good too.

Paul Laycock




Message 46428

From :"Ben Vost" <ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: Tutorial dearth
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 12:33:40 +0000
Hi Kevin,

> Free beer? Oh it's not that sort of request. It'd need to cover the basics
> about installing it all, and then the boing bag (btw any news on BB2
> yet?), and covering problems that might arise from it such as the rogue

BB2 will probably be out in the first full week of March (5th-).

> C:Installer problem. Then there's setting up patches with it such as
> TweakWB and the like. Then of course there's getting the FastIPrefs
> version of WBPattern to lock the palette for MWB ....

Why not just use MCP? :)

All the best,
-- 
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Editor, Amiga Format                             F: (+44) 01225 732275
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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has only the 33rd highest per-capita gross domestic product. 





Message 46429

From :"Ben Vost" <ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: Tutorial dearth
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 12:35:33 +0000
Hi Paul,

> I'd like a "getting the most out of OS3.5" type thing. Maybe you could
> print a list of programs which have been specifically designed for it,
> and also ones which have problems (advice on how to fix).

It might have to be a general GTMOO Workbench, rather than just OS3.5, since
the more interesting things will apply to all current versions...

> I know DOpus keeps being done, but I can't get enough of it! More DOpus!

Yeah, but I've already written one six-part DOpus tutorial, a complete
beginners guide and most of the tutorials on the DOplus CD as well. I'm
pretty much Opus'ed out...

All the best,
-- 
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: (+44) 01225 442244
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: (+44) 01225 732275
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
A good death: Taking a bullet for the Science Nun





Message 46430

From :Matthew Garrett <mjg59@cam.ac.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: AF136 Idea
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 12:41:05 +0000
On Tue, Feb 22, 2000 at 08:19:29PM +0100, Matthew O'Neill wrote:

> 1) these are free
> 2) these are legal

But not necessarily legal to put on the front of a magazine and
advertise. The material is still copyrighted - the copyright owner has
every right to limit the distribution.

-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@cam.ac.uk



Message 46431

From :"Alexander Holland" <a1_nocrap_exh@hotmail.com>
Subject: [afb] Who Published "Amiga Power" and "The One"
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 04:41:21 -0800
Hi,

Who published Amiga Power? Was it Future Publishing?

Also anyone know who published "The One"?

If anyone knows could they mail me?

Cheers

Alexander Holland
Webmaster of the Thalion Webshrine
http://thalion.amiga.tm




Message 46432

From :Matthew Garrett <mjg59@cam.ac.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: FOOD in AF?....FOOD ON AF-CD?
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 12:48:15 +0000
On Wed, Feb 23, 2000 at 09:58:50AM +0000, Ben Vost wrote:

> Yes, but the only thing I fancied off his tray was the flapjack. The salad
> came from M&S...

Bizarrely, what is probably the best flapjack on the planet is sold in the
Cambridge University chemistry department for around 50 pence a piece.
This information is almost certainly entirely useless to you.

(couldn't you have got something a little more substantial than one of
their salad things? M&S's new range of sandwiches is pretty good. Erm.
Hmm. Eek. Much like we all hope the new Amiga will be, eh folks? Phew. I
think I got away with that one...)

-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@cam.ac.uk



Message 46433

From :Matthew Garrett <mjg59@cam.ac.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: Who Published "Amiga Power" and "The One"
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 12:49:52 +0000
On Wed, Feb 23, 2000 at 04:41:21AM -0800, Alexander Holland wrote:
> Who published Amiga Power? Was it Future Publishing?

It was.

> Also anyone know who published "The One"?

EMAP, wasn't it? And then Rapide or someone when it was "re-launched", but
you probably don't want to think about that.

-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@cam.ac.uk



Message 46434

From :"Paul Laycock" <amipal@yahoo.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: Tutorial dearth
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 04:59:54 -0800
Hi Ben,

> > I'd like a "getting the most out of OS3.5" type thing
 
> It might have to be a general GTMOO Workbench, rather than just
OS3.5, since
> the more interesting things will apply to all current versions...

True... 
 
> > I know DOpus keeps being done, but I can't get enough of it! More
DOpus!
> 
> Yeah, but I've already written one six-part DOpus tutorial, a complete
> beginners guide and most of the tutorials on the DOplus CD as well.
I'm
> pretty much Opus'ed out...

Ben Vost? Tired of DOpus? Has all of your omnipotent energy gone into
these tutorials? ;)

Paul Laycock




Message 46435

From :"Kevin Fairhurst" <redvers@redvers.u-net.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: Tutorial dearth
Date: 23 Feb 2000 12:58:35 +0000
On Wed, 23 Feb 2000 12:33:40 +0000, Ben Vost (ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk) wrote:
> Hi Kevin,

'lo

> > Free beer? Oh it's not that sort of request. It'd need to cover the basics
> > about installing it all, and then the boing bag (btw any news on BB2
> > yet?), and covering problems that might arise from it such as the rogue
> 
> BB2 will probably be out in the first full week of March (5th-).

Ta for the exclusive news - is that gonna make the news pages of the issue
just finished and the CD of the next one?    :-)

> > C:Installer problem. Then there's setting up patches with it such as
> > TweakWB and the like. Then of course there's getting the FastIPrefs
> > version of WBPattern to lock the palette for MWB ....
> 
> Why not just use MCP? :)

Hmmm, using MCP (without patches) and there's nothing to do that.  And why
should people following this tutorial have to install MCP just so that they
can have something that's part of teh OS anyway?  All you have to do is
change the required setting in the WBPattern prefs - the only problem is,
the WBPattern prefs editor doesn't allow you to do it!  D'oh!  Hence having
to use the FastIPrefs one ... unless this is fixed in BB2 ...

Kev

-- 
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM




Message 46436

From :"Ben Vost" <ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: Tutorial dearth
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:03:36 +0000
Hi Paul,

>> Yeah, but I've already written one six-part DOpus tutorial, a complete
>> beginners guide and most of the tutorials on the DOplus CD as well.
> I'm
>> pretty much Opus'ed out...

> Ben Vost? Tired of DOpus? Has all of your omnipotent energy gone into
> these tutorials? ;)

No, but I have written probably 12,000 words on the subject, so forgive me
for not being able to come up with another 4500-odd...

All the best,
-- 
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Editor, Amiga Format                             F: (+44) 01225 732275
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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acquired in exchange for painful sexual favors.





Message 46437

From :=?iso-8859-1?q?Mirrorball?= <djoutlaws@yahoo.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: Who Published "Amiga Power" and "The One"
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 05:21:16 -0800 (PST)
Hi!

> Who published Amiga Power? Was it Future Publishing?

Yes

DAN

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Message 46438

From :roger buckley <rogerbu@callnetuk.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: Countdown (Was: java 'n' hex)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 02:57:40 +0000
Hello Neil

On 22-Feb-00, you wrote:

> Matthew O'Neill said, 
> 
>the budjet didn't allow for rats which
>> would've been up to the job
> 
> Why didn't they use ferrets? :)
> 
never send a rat to do a ferrets job :)

Regards
-- 
Roger

Amiga 1200, Viper 68030 Mk V Accel with 50Mhz FPU and 8 MBFast, Seagate 410MB
2.5" internal HD and 800MB SCSI HD in a midi tower with 4xCDRom. 56k Modem,
Power Port Junr Serial IF G.Image Hand Scanner & Citizen Swift Printer.
Website:-http://callnetuk.com/home/rogerbu
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Message 46439

From :"Daniel Thornton" <thewibble@cwcom.net>
Subject: [afb] Re: Squirrel software
Date: 23 Feb 2000 13:39:44 +0000
On Wed, 23 Feb 2000 11:37:58 +0000 (GMT), mksh2@hermes.cam.ac.uk wibbled...

> I just bought the CD32 version of
> Cannon Fodder and need to install the CD32 software that came with the
> Squirrel to be able to play it.

CD32 Cannon Fodder won't work on an Amiga, as it accesses CD32
hardware. You need to get the HDInstall patch from an AFCD/Aminet.
Well, I say 'patch', but it's the actual Amiga version of the CF main
program.

-- 
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   exclusive Television Spoilers...and the usual old gubbins as well...
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Message 46440

From :"Daniel Thornton" <thewibble@cwcom.net>
Subject: [afb] Re: Tutorial dearth
Date: 23 Feb 2000 13:42:23 +0000
On Wed, 23 Feb 2000 12:19:42 +0000, ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk wibbled...

> There hasn't been a photogenics tutorial, but Paul Nolan and I have been
> discussing him writing one for us.

A tutorial for the new version of ImageFX might be better, seeing as
that's just come out. There hasn't been an IFX tutorial since the CU
covermount, AFAIK.

-- 
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    New game, Gran Tourettes Syndome is advertised on the front page...
   exclusive Television Spoilers...and the usual old gubbins as well...
-- Updated: 17 February, 2000 -- http://www.the-wibble.co.uk -- The Wibble



Message 46441

From :"Daniel Thornton" <thewibble@cwcom.net>
Subject: [afb] Re: Who Published "Amiga Power" and "The One"
Date: 23 Feb 2000 13:44:46 +0000
On Wed, 23 Feb 2000 04:41:21 -0800, a1_nocrap_exh@hotmail.com wibbled...

> Who published Amiga Power? Was it Future Publishing?

Yup.

> Also anyone know who published "The One"?

Originally, it was Emap, but the new 'improved' version was by
Maverick, AFAIK.
 
-- 
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   exclusive Television Spoilers...and the usual old gubbins as well...
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Message 46442

From :"Daniel Thornton" <thewibble@cwcom.net>
Subject: [afb] Re: FOOD in AF?....FOOD ON AF-CD?
Date: 23 Feb 2000 13:46:14 +0000
On Wed, 23 Feb 2000 12:48:15 +0000, mjg59@cam.ac.uk wibbled...

> their salad things? M&S's new range of sandwiches is pretty good. Erm.
> Hmm. Eek. Much like we all hope the new Amiga will be, eh folks? Phew. I
> think I got away with that one...)

Amiga Sandwich: Comes wrapped in lavish packaging showing 
mouthwatering snack. Revealed to be two slices of white bread with no
filling, and only a tiny bit of margarine.

-- 
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    New game, Gran Tourettes Syndome is advertised on the front page...
   exclusive Television Spoilers...and the usual old gubbins as well...
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Message 46443

From :"Tom Miles" <tom@teknogrebo.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] A desperate plea!
Date: 23 Feb 2000 14:4:43 +0000
Hi there,

This is a desperate plea for information.  If *anyone* has programmed
*anything* using realtime.library then I would appreciate some help as I'm
going round in circles with my project and I don't have very long before it
has to be handed in.

My problem in a nutshell is that I can't get 2 or more players using the
same conductor to work together.  Either one works or the other, never
both.  I won't go into too much detail as it's irrelevant to some of the
lists I'm sending this to, but if you have any experience then please let
me know and I'll fill in the gaps.

Cheers,

Tom

-- 
  
Project Omega Completion: 65%+              Forced Landing Date:  April 2000
Project Webpage:                                    __
Http://www.teknogrebo.freeserve.co.uk       :      /// Amiga 1200T/040 25Mhz
UIN: 15835139                               : __  ///  603e+ 160Mhz 50Mb RAM
Techno   Grebo   Skater   Geek	            : \\\///   BlizzardVisionPPC Gfx
Tatooed  Vegan  Piercing Freak	            :  \XX/    4620Mb HDs  24x CDROM




Message 46444

From :George Davis <geo@2-cool.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: Workbench in QNX stylee...
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 14:05:46 +0000
Hello Vaughn,

On 22-Feb-00, you wrote this:

> I've just finished doing a QNX-style config for workbench, using
> Visualprefs and Birdie. It took a while, but its starting to look pretty
> good (IMHO).

I did a QNX style backrop pattern,but it's not that hot :)

> Am I the only one, or do other people think the simplicity of look of the
> QNX GUI is a breath of fresh air?

Yeah,I like it too.It's very nice.
 
> Is it worth me sending the package in as a reader submission, or does
> everyone prefer a more complex, bells and whistles kinda desktop?

Why not? Could you send me a screenshot or something?

Seeya.
-- 
<sb>Geo




Message 46445

From :George Davis <geo@2-cool.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Wanted:Script for YAM
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 14:15:04 +0000
Hello,everyone.
I would like to be able to select an option and have YAM go online,download
all the mail,then go offline again.
I know it's possible,but I don't know much about AREXX..and I'm busy..
Has anyone else written such a script?

Seeyaround.
-- 
<sb>Geo




Message 46446

From : "Andy Mills" <andy@wharne.u-net.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: limit
Date: 23 Feb 2000 13:59:48 +0000
Hello Ben Vost, on 23-Feb-00 09:52:48 you said about:
  [afb] Re: limit 

>Hi Neil,

>> Matthew O'Neill said, 

>>> I'm one of the biggest posters, I've been here for months and I've
>>> *NEVER* had such a message actually. Put your foot in it again have we?

>> The limit is usually reached quite late in the day, probably past your
>> bedtime :)

>The daily limit goes from 8AM GMT - 8AM GMT.

That's not /quite/ what he meant, Ben.... ;)

-- 
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 afb-ot's official webshite - http://www.afb-ot.co.uk
--
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Message 46447

From : "Andy Mills" <andy@wharne.u-net.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: Tutorial dearth
Date: 23 Feb 2000 14:27:31 +0000
Hello Ben Vost, on 23-Feb-00 12:24:59 you said about:
  [afb] Re: Tutorial dearth 

>Hi David,

>> Some sort of internet not-for-getting-connected-but-server-y-type thing?

>> Like setup/using/maintaining a web site using apache (sorry, first
>> thing that came to mind). Similarly, FTP, IRC server, etc. And you
>> could work in that other suggestion of internet security that someone
>> mentioned a couple of days ago. You can always check your stuff without
>> needing to be online by using the loopback address.

>> Or would that be too much work/complexity/not big enough audience*
>> (* delete as appropriate)

>Like it.

Following on from the above, how about a "how to setup and use the
Amiga port of Apache on your Amiga" type thing? You could also include
all of the files required on AFCD.

With the imminent (ever hopeful) release of cable modems, people could
serve their own web pages from their own machines[1]. The security
feature could also be tied in with this.

[1] I I know /outgoing/ speed may not be /that/ fast, but it should
still cope fairly well as long as the site isn't too popular...

-- 
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 afb-ot's official webshite - http://www.afb-ot.co.uk
--
Skier: Someone who pays an arm and a leg to break them.




Message 46448

From :"Paul Laycock" <amipal@yahoo.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: Wanted:Script for YAM
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 06:44:20 -0800
Hi George,

> I would like to be able to select an option and have YAM go
online,download
> all the mail,then go offline again.
> I know it's possible,but I don't know much about AREXX..and I'm busy..
> Has anyone else written such a script?

One word: Aminet.

Paul Laycock




Message 46449

From :"Paul Laycock" <amipal@yahoo.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: Workbench in QNX stylee...
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 06:47:43 -0800
Hi Vaughn,

> > I've just finished doing a QNX-style config for workbench, using
> > Visualprefs and Birdie. It took a while, but its starting to look
pretty
> > good (IMHO).

How good does it look in 8 colours though? :(

> > Am I the only one, or do other people think the simplicity of look
of the
> > QNX GUI is a breath of fresh air?

It looks pretty damn snazzy.

> > Is it worth me sending the package in as a reader submission, or
does
> > everyone prefer a more complex, bells and whistles kinda desktop?

Send it in; its better than nothing at all!

How do you propose such a desktop? WIth the tight integration of
Birdie, VisualPrefs, and ARexx? ;)

Paul Laycock




Message 46450

From :"Paul Laycock" <amipal@yahoo.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: Squirrel software
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 06:48:40 -0800
Hi Daniel,

> > I just bought the CD32 version of
> > Cannon Fodder and need to install the CD32 software that came with
the
> > Squirrel to be able to play it.
> 
> CD32 Cannon Fodder won't work on an Amiga, as it accesses CD32
> hardware. You need to get the HDInstall patch from an AFCD/Aminet.
> Well, I say 'patch', but it's the actual Amiga version of the CF main
> program.

It worked first time WITHOUT the patch on my miggy. Hmm...

Paul Laycock




Message 46451

From :"Paul Laycock" <amipal@yahoo.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: Tutorial dearth
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 06:51:04 -0800
Hi Ben,

> >> Yeah, but I've already written one six-part DOpus tutorial, a
complete
> >> beginners guide and most of the tutorials on the DOplus CD as well.
> > I'm
> >> pretty much Opus'ed out...
> 
> > Ben Vost? Tired of DOpus? Has all of your omnipotent energy gone
into
> > these tutorials? ;)
> 
> No, but I have written probably 12,000 words on the subject, so
forgive me
> for not being able to come up with another 4500-odd...

Hmm, okay then. Admit defeat. Don't worry faithful AF readers, our
leader is just... resting at the moment! He'll be back! Won't he? ;)

Paul Laycock




Message 46452

From :"Ben Vost" <ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: Tutorial dearth
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 14:50:19 +0000
Hi Daniel,

>> There hasn't been a photogenics tutorial, but Paul Nolan and I have been
>> discussing him writing one for us.

> A tutorial for the new version of ImageFX might be better, seeing as
> that's just come out. There hasn't been an IFX tutorial since the CU
> covermount, AFAIK.

Not a bad idea either. Thanks.

All the best,
-- 
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: (+44) 01225 442244
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: (+44) 01225 732275
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
try this: http://www.asi.org





Message 46453

From :"Matthew J Fletcher" <amimjf@hotmail.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: reassembling...not MFI way
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 07:00:34 -0800
"alan l.m. buxey" <kcci-@central.susx.ac.uk> wrote: 
> > > Easy Dis-assemble vista, convert it to ppc code with the proggy
from
> > > aminet i have forgeten the name of and then re-assemble it.
> > > 
> 
> If the steps are that easy..i think it *could* be made to use the PPC
> ;-)

Yep, infact i started barfly disasembling but i think it crashed,
(after 2 hours !), it allready spewed out 14mb+ of fairly scary looking
asm. All you need to do now is to go through nearly every line an
change it to ppc opcodes.

-matthew 





Message 46454

From :Jani =??Q?M=E4kitalo?= <jani.makitalo@saunalahti.fi>
Subject: [afb] Re: HTML question
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 14:26:34 +0300
On 23-Feb-00 Christopher Ross-Gill wrote:

> I usually get no gap in Netscape, or any other browser for that
> matter, when I set a table up like so:
> 
> <TABLE WIDTH="whatever" CELLSPACING="0" BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="0">
> 
> When you remove the border attribute the gap returns.

Yes, I do the same thing, but from previous posts I understood the gap
remains on NN even with border set to zero.

> - Chris

- Jani
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Message 46455

From :"Daniel Thornton" <thewibble@cwcom.net>
Subject: [afb] Re: Squirrel software
Date: 23 Feb 2000 14:59:51 +0000
On Wed, 23 Feb 2000 06:48:40 -0800, amipal@yahoo.com wibbled...

> > CD32 Cannon Fodder won't work on an Amiga, as it accesses CD32
> > hardware. You need to get the HDInstall patch from an AFCD/Aminet.
> > Well, I say 'patch', but it's the actual Amiga version of the CF main
> > program.
> It worked first time WITHOUT the patch on my miggy. Hmm...

Odd; it's well documented that it won't work on Amigas without the
patch. Perhaps, if you have a relatively new copy of the CD it has
already been patched (e.g. by Epic etc)

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Message 46456

From :"Duncan Gow" <duncan@gow2.u-net.com>
Subject: [afb] Silversurfer
Date: 23 Feb 2000 15:06:51 +0000
Hi,
   Quick question for those of you in the know. I have a Dynalink
56k/V90 modem, a silversurfer serial port and a 040/25 160Hz Blizzard
PPC card At present Genesis is set up for 115200 which works great,
what I want to know is am I using the correct speed or could I try a
faster speed with out problems?
Thanks
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Message 46457

From :"Ben Vost" <ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: Silversurfer
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 15:05:59 +0000
Hi Duncan,

>   Quick question for those of you in the know. I have a Dynalink
> 56k/V90 modem, a silversurfer serial port and a 040/25 160Hz Blizzard
> PPC card At present Genesis is set up for 115200 which works great,
> what I want to know is am I using the correct speed or could I try a
> faster speed with out problems?

You should be able to go for a higher speed without probs anyway, but
setting your serial port to 230,400 will certainly work and might even
improve performance...

All the best,
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Message 46458

From :"Matthew J Fletcher" <amimjf@hotmail.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: Tutorial dearth
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 07:10:46 -0800
"ben vost" <ben.vos-@futurenet.co.uk> wrote: 

> Two more tutorials came to an end in the issue we've just finished,
so I'm
> on the lookout for more to replace them. Any suggestions?

Slightly late on the thread, but what about a tutorial on geekgadgets
?, perhaps with the latest current/alpha versions of the software on
the CD.

I know its a massive topic, but you could do gcc&egcs / sed&grep /
jove&emacs / awk&tcl / ksh&scripts etc,.. in each tutorial, starting
with the install and going through to decent usage of the progs.

Its a topic most people will have to cover at some point and it has the
added charm that it makes Mac (and MacOSX) users really scared.

-matthew




Message 46459

From :"Ben Vost" <ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: Tutorial dearth
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 15:11:11 +0000
Hi Matthew,

> Slightly late on the thread, but what about a tutorial on geekgadgets
> ?, perhaps with the latest current/alpha versions of the software on
> the CD.

> Its a topic most people will have to cover at some point and it has the
> added charm that it makes Mac (and MacOSX) users really scared.

I don't think that most people will have to cover it and another programming
tutorial is the furthest thing from my mind right now...

All the best,
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Message 46460

From :"Daniel Thornton" <thewibble@cwcom.net>
Subject: [afb] Re: Silversurfer
Date: 23 Feb 2000 15:14:14 +0000
On 23 Feb 2000 15:06:51 +0000, duncan@gow2.u-net.com wibbled...

> At present Genesis is set up for 115200 which works great,
> what I want to know is am I using the correct speed or could I try a
> faster speed with out problems?

You can go up to 234000 (or whatever it is :) without problems, but
there's not really any noticeable speed difference. Any higher will
cause problems though.

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Message 46461

From :Christopher Ross-Gill <chris@ross-gill.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: Tutorial dearth
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 15:21:08 +0000
Ben Vost wrote:
> 
> Two more tutorials came to an end in the issue we've just finished, so
> I'm on the lookout for more to replace them. Any suggestions?

Why not do an 'Amiga in the Real World' set of tutorials where you can
explore some practical applications (suggested by afb members?) of an
Amiga setup?  With the exception of setting up web sites - a well worn
subject - you could look at:

o Designing a newsletter -
  A perfect vehicle for stretching the legs of Pagestream
o Recording sports results -
  Using spreadsheets to maintain a league table.
o House/garden design -
  All the rage on telly and PC CD-ROMs, show how to use Imagine or
  similar to pre-plan one of those DIY jobs.
o Run a radio station -
  I have no idea how to do this.  Maybe you could use ARexx to control a
  playlist and some juke-box-alike equipment for the multitude of CDs.
etc...

I'm sure there are better ideas out there than these.  You could have
boxouts detailing availability of hw/sw or getting to know the
software.  Who knows, you could learn something yourself :-)

- Chris




Message 46462

From :"Christopher Bayliss" <chris@georth.demon.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: Yamaha 8424 more questions
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 07:31:02 -0800
> >  The manual says that it supports DAO, TAO, SAO and packet writting.
> > Does any of the cd burning software on the amiga support all (or
most)
> > of these. 

> MakeCD, BurnIT, MasterISO. Demos of all of these programs have been on
> previous CDs; just use AFCDfind to get 'em.

Thanks I thought I`d ask before loading them onto my hard drive

Chris Bayliss




Message 46463

From :Christopher Ross-Gill <chris@ross-gill.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: HTML question
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 15:29:16 +0000
Jani Mkitalo wrote:
> 
> > I usually get no gap in Netscape, or any other browser for that
> > matter, when I set a table up like so:
> >
> > <TABLE WIDTH="whatever" CELLSPACING="0" BORDER="0" CELLPADDING="0">
> >
> > When you remove the border attribute the gap returns.
> 
> Yes, I do the same thing, but from previous posts I understood the gap
> remains on NN even with border set to zero.

Is this Mac Netscape?  I use Netscape Comm. 4.7 for Windows (95) and
have used 4.6 and as long as I actually include BORDER="0", I find there
is no gap, as is the case with every other browser I can get my hands
on.

- Chris



Message 46464

From :Tudor Davies <tudor@high5.net>
Subject: [afb] Re: AF136 Idea
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 16:44:56 +0100
On Tue, Feb 22, 2000 at 08:19:29PM +0100, Matthew O'Neill wrote:

> A broken leg isn't a good excuse for not remembering previous posts ;)
> 1) these are free
> 2) these are legal

Hang on Mash - are you talking out of your arse?
Adam's comment was:
"Why don't you put full commercial games on next months CD , games from                                                              
1988-1993/4 in DMS files"

Can you point me towards all these games which are free and legal that were
released during these years? And also show me which companies (such as
Gremlin, etc) who have *legally* allowed this to happen.

Having a broken leg means I cannot put my foot in my mouth - as opposed to
you.

l8r
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                                     Technology in Perfect Harmony
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Message 46465

From :"Christopher Bayliss" <chris@georth.demon.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: PCMCIA network cards/CC_reset question.
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 07:45:25 -0800
> >My questions are; What does the CC_Reset fix do? Is it essential?
What will
> >happen if I don't bother with it?
> 
> I bought one of the Power PCMCIA kits a few weeks ago. The cc reset
fix is
> just a small board (supplied by Power) with 3 wires coming of it
which need
> to be soldered to one of the Amiga chips. It's a bit fiddly, but I
managed
> it.
> If you don't do the fix it should still work but after each reboot
you will
> need to unplug the card and then plug it back in. If you forget the
system
> doesn't see the network.

 I have got one of those on my system without the reset fix and it works
perfectly even after reboots. Its a revision 2B your interested.
 If you want to do the fix without soldering you could try getting
clips that
hook on to the chips legs maplins have some in there catalouge. I was
looking
into these but since it worked ok I didn`t bother.

Chris Bayliss




Message 46466

From :Tudor Davies <tudor@high5.net>
Subject: [afb] Re: network
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 16:49:15 +0100
On Tue, Feb 22, 2000 at 08:51:39PM +0100, Matthew O'Neill wrote:

> > there are 100mbit capable cards for Amiga. 
> ...and!?? thats what I'm trying to find out. dont hold back on me!

READ AMIGA FORMAT AND/OR AMIGACTIVE

For God's sake - for someone so opinionated, you don't take much notice of
what you read (if you do). I even started a thread about this a couple of
months ago, asking for details from people that had been to the Koln show.

> > yes...but it depends on how cheap you define cheapo ;-)
> The cheapest no frills one which fits the pcmcia socket and goes at 100mbit

Well you are stuffed there then. You need a Zorro capable box for the
100Mbps card - the 16bit PCMCIA on the miggy cannot do it, so they cvame up
with a Zorro PCMCIA adapter instead. Tough luck :)

l8r
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Message 46467

From :Tudor Davies <tudor@high5.net>
Subject: [afb] Re: Tutorial dearth
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 17:06:38 +0100
On Wed, Feb 23, 2000 at 12:01:02PM +0000, Ben Vost wrote:

> Two more tutorials came to an end in the issue we've just finished, so I'm
> on the lookout for more to replace them. Any suggestions?

ImageFX 4.x Tutorial
ArtEffect Tutorial
NetBSD/OpenBSD Installation & Configuration

l8r
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                                     Technology in Perfect Harmony
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Message 46468

From :"Ben Vost" <ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: Tutorial dearth
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 16:13:14 +0000
Hi Tudor,

>> Two more tutorials came to an end in the issue we've just finished, so
>> I'm on the lookout for more to replace them. Any suggestions?

> ImageFX 4.x Tutorial

I'm looking into getting Kermit to do one of these.

> ArtEffect Tutorial

Hadn't considered that, but it's a possibility.

> NetBSD/OpenBSD Installation & Configuration

I don't think so. For a start trying to use any kind of Unix is far too much
like programming for quite a lot of readers, but also because it'll be
interminably dull for people who aren't interested. At least atm, if you
don't program, even the programming tutes are relatively interesting -
thinking of Rich's Programming Perfection and Simon's Banging the Metal in
particular... (don't feel left out Neil!)

All the best,
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Message 46469

From :"Neil Bothwick" <neil@wire.net.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: Countdown (Was: java 'n' hex)
Date: 23 Feb 2000 14:19:58 +0000
roger buckley said, 

> Hello Neil

>> Why didn't they use ferrets? :)
>> 
> never send a rat to do a ferrets job :)

That's be why there were no rats on Calendar, or It'll Be Alright on
the Night :)


Neil - possibly being too subtle
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Message 46470

From :Tudor Davies <tudor@high5.net>
Subject: [afb] Re: Tutorial dearth
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 17:20:37 +0100
On Wed, Feb 23, 2000 at 04:13:14PM +0000, Ben Vost wrote:

> > ImageFX 4.x Tutorial
> I'm looking into getting Kermit to do one of these.
> > ArtEffect Tutorial
> Hadn't considered that, but it's a possibility.

Or even running them head to head could be interesting - although they are
aimed at different markets, they do have a lot of similar functionality (but
IFX is buried under a hideous interface - pity - still trying to get the
hang of it)

> > NetBSD/OpenBSD Installation & Configuration

OK dump that idea then - didn't think anyone would go for it anyway.

What about:

JST and WHDload tutorials - how to load your fav games onto HDD and how to
create installers/patchers - might encourage some people to register it.

l8r
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                                     Technology in Perfect Harmony
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Message 46471

From : "Andy Mills" <andy@wharne.u-net.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: ami yellow pages
Date: 23 Feb 2000 14:51:24 +0000
Hello Mikey C, on 23-Feb-00 12:27:08 you said about:
  [afb] Re: ami yellow pages 

>matthew o'neill <mas-@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: 
>original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=48622
>> On 22-Feb-00, Mikey C wrote:
>> 

>> Grabs dictionary........ Oi! I'm trying to hep the site and all you
>can do
>> is have a go at me, naff off!

>Helpful? Your tone of writting comes across to me as aggressive. 

And... Oh, never mind...

>It was on Excite, webcrawler, hotbot and several others. (I couldn't
>get Yahoo to put AYP on there despite repeated requests)

At http://www.atomor.demon.co.uk , you'll find quite a bit of useful
info on how to get listed well in search engines, Yahoo included.

[snip]

>Besides, I have had a stack of emails from people telling me how much
>they valued the service and how they miss it.

Funny how you suddenly get a load of mails once a site closes, isn't it?
If they had taken the time to mail you before, you might not have closed
AYP... :(

>I didn't do too badly surely? It was mentioned in AF and CU Amiga too.
>:P

:)

Unless Neil has changed his mind, the AR should be getting a mention in
the next issue of "the other magazine"... ;)

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Message 46472

From : "Andy Mills" <andy@wharne.u-net.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: ami yellow pages
Date: 23 Feb 2000 15:10:33 +0000
Hello Matthew O'Neill, on 22-Feb-00 19:25:19 you said about:
  [afb] Re: ami yellow pages 

[snip]

>> So, you've *never* seen the 88x33 yellow AYP button link? 

>No, and if I did then isn't there a good chance I'd have mearly glanced over
>it because I~d have though its for the actual yellow pages?

Possibly, just depends how much attention you pay to what's on the
site...

>> Or run a
>> website, other than your `homepage'....

>I do only run my website, why would I run someone else's?

My point is, if you haven't run a site where getting a good position in
a search engine can be important, you won't know the difficulties
involved in getting a good position, e.g., within the first 50 sites
returned from a search.

Obviously Michael has run into this (as he's already mentioned), as have
I, seeing as I currently run 7 web sites....

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Message 46473

From :"Kevin Fairhurst" <redvers@redvers.u-net.com>
Subject: [afb] Shocking news!
Date: 23 Feb 2000 16:13:59 +0000
It's true! I've got a PC in my room!!

Yeah, it's a sad day, I know.  It's not through choice - work have forced
it onto me as my Amiga is unable of handling MS formatted documents  :(

The thing is, I wouldn't mind if it was a decent machine, but it's a P75
with 32Mb RAM!  Despite it being such an old machine & monitor, they've
given me a brand new HP Deskjet 710C to go with it, and a seemingly new
3Com USR modem!  Now where did I put my TurboPrint disk? ...

Kev

PS  I just had to reinstall the modem on the thing because for some reason,
it couldn't see it there ... </bashing>

-- 
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM




Message 46474

From :"Paul Laycock" <amipal@yahoo.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: network
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 08:38:27 -0800
Hi Tudor,

> > > yes...but it depends on how cheap you define cheapo ;-)
> > The cheapest no frills one which fits the pcmcia socket and goes at
100mbit
> 
> Well you are stuffed there then. You need a Zorro capable box for the
> 100Mbps card - the 16bit PCMCIA on the miggy cannot do it, so they
cvame up
> with a Zorro PCMCIA adapter instead. Tough luck :)

And according to the Koln report (if my memory serves me correctly),
connecting to a Zorro II interface means that it'll only be able to
reach about 12mbits.

Paul Laycock




Message 46475

From :"Paul Laycock" <amipal@yahoo.com>
Subject: [afb] All kinds of things hanging off the expansion bus!
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 08:42:22 -0800
Hi ppl,

The other day I was looking at an advert for the Z4 busboard when a
question popped into my head:

"If you've got one of those beauties in your A1200, and an accelerator,
would the busboard cause any loss in performance?"

I'm sure that there is /someone/ on AFB who can answer the curiosity
for me.

Paul Laycock




Message 46476

From :BloodStain@t-online.de (Sean FT)
Subject: [afb] Re: Tutorial dearth (careful Ben)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 17:56:04 +0200
Hello Ben

On 23-Feb-00, you wrote:


>> Free beer? Oh it's not that sort of request. It'd need to cover the
>> basics about installing it all, and then the boing bag (btw any news on
>> BB2 yet?), and covering problems that might arise from it such as the
>> rogue
> 
> BB2 will probably be out in the first full week of March (5th-).
> 
>> C:Installer problem. Then there's setting up patches with it such as
>> TweakWB and the like. Then of course there's getting the FastIPrefs
>> version of WBPattern to lock the palette for MWB ....
> 
> Why not just use MCP? :)

Just a thought OS3.5 & MCP = :-(

When using OS3.5 & MCP together it has been reported that starting any of
the
following software can cause the machine to crash:-

YAM 2 - Wordsworth 6or7 - DOpus 5.11 - ABackup 5.20

I have also had problems with OS3.5,using YAM 2 & Voyager 3.When both are
running and
i try to save a fastlink the machine crashes.When i turn YAM 2 off and save
theres
no problem,it may be just my machine but the OS 3.5 & MCP problem has been
reported by
lots of users!. 

              Cheers,
                    Sean.
                             POWERED BY:      

A4000(T) 040 25+PPC233 144Mb CVPPC PreludeZII+Rombler* IOBlixZII
UltraPlex32X RicohMP6200SCDRW Nomai750.c Mustek1200SP Tiptel506 ISDN Modem
EpsonSC500 OS3.5 etc

*=Still looking for a sound daughter board DB50XG from Yamaha to fit onto
it! (Any offers!)




Anyone can make mistakes, but only an idiot persists in his error.
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Message 46477

From :"Ben Vost" <ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: Tutorial dearth (careful Ben)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 16:58:54 +0000
Hi Sean,

>> Why not just use MCP? :)

> Just a thought OS3.5 & MCP = :-(

> When using OS3.5 & MCP together it has been reported that starting any of
> the following software can cause the machine to crash:-

> YAM 2 - Wordsworth 6or7 - DOpus 5.11 - ABackup 5.20

Well people running Opus 5.11 should get a life anyway. That version was
never very good and later ones are available (and more OS3.5 compatible).
However, I run YAM on a 24-hour basis both here and at home with no
trouble. It hasn't been the cause of any of the few crashes I experience. I
can't comment on Wordworth (which has never been programmed in a
particularly OS-friendly manner anyway) or ABackup.

> I have also had problems with OS3.5,using YAM 2 & Voyager 3.When both are
> running and
> i try to save a fastlink the machine crashes.When i turn YAM 2 off and
> save theres
> no problem,it may be just my machine but the OS 3.5 & MCP problem has been

Again, I run V3 almost constantly on this machine too, and while it's not as
stable as I'd like, I don't see the connection between it and YAM. I think
you'd probably find the same problem with running any two MUI programs, and
that there's a problem with MUI for you, rather than these individual apps.

All the best,
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Message 46478

From :"Ben Vost" <ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: All kinds of things hanging off the expansion bus!
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 17:02:23 +0000
Hi Paul,

> The other day I was looking at an advert for the Z4 busboard when a
> question popped into my head:

> "If you've got one of those beauties in your A1200, and an accelerator,
> would the busboard cause any loss in performance?"

Not if you're not using it. That might sound fatuous, but it won't degrade
the performance of your machine at all by simply being plugged in. However,
because of the fact that it (and indeed any Zorro II busboard) can't handle
DMA, then any card plugged into it *will* have to use the processor,
thereby slowing your machine down. However, the trade off is well worth
while in most instances I would imagine.

All the best,
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Message 46479

From :"Neil Bothwick" <neil@wire.net.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: limit
Date: 23 Feb 2000 16:28:30 +0000
Andy Mills said, 

Nothing that I'm quoting, but eGroups haven't bothered to send me
Ben's mail yet.

> Hello Ben Vost, on 23-Feb-00 09:52:48 you said about:

>>> The limit is usually reached quite late in the day, probably past your
>>> bedtime :)

>>The daily limit goes from 8AM GMT - 8AM GMT.

I know that. But I was talking to Mash, so there was no need to let the
facts get in the way of the point I was trying to make :)


Note that this mail contains two smilies, so it cannot be considered
offensive to anyone, not matter what the content.


Neil
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Message 46480

From :"Neil Bothwick" <neil@wire.net.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: Tutorial dearth
Date: 23 Feb 2000 16:29:59 +0000
Andy Mills said, 

> With the imminent (ever hopeful) release of cable modems, people could
> serve their own web pages from their own machines[1]. The security
> feature could also be tied in with this.

Cablemodem contracts generally forbid the running of servers.


Neil
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I'll try being nicer if you'll try being smarter.




Message 46481

From :"Neil Bothwick" <neil@wire.net.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: Silversurfer
Date: 23 Feb 2000 16:33:3 +0000
Duncan Gow said, 

>    Quick question for those of you in the know. I have a Dynalink
> 56k/V90 modem, a silversurfer serial port and a 040/25 160Hz Blizzard
> PPC card At present Genesis is set up for 115200 which works great,
> what I want to know is am I using the correct speed or could I try a
> faster speed with out problems?

Many modems only work up to 115200. Try it and see, the worst that can
happen is that it won't work.

Watch the transfer rates if it does connect, faster is sometimes slower
where serial speeds are concerned.


Neil
-- 
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The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider
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Message 46482

From :Adam James <adam.james@eidosnet.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Subscription and Back issues
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 05:11:13 +0000
Hello, all

Is the back issues stated in AF the last few issues or any issues? =


i have Just filled out the subscription order form :-) but does anyone
know when the =A339.95 will get took from the account? =


-- =

Adam James

(PGP key avail)









Message 46483

From :"Anthony Prime" <anthony@prime.clara.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: Tutorial dearth
Date: 23 Feb 2000 17:40:38 +0000
Hi Ben

[snip]

> A "getting the most from Workbench" kind of thing is also on my list of
> possibles, but what would you guys (my very own focus group) want from it?

An idiots guide to soft kicking KS3.1 and downloading OS3.5... JOKE :)

Essential utilities, crash busting (libs etc.), effective use of MUI.
-- 
Anthony Prime
>>Powered by Amiga in Crewe
anthony@prime.clara.co.uk



Message 46484

From :"Anthony Prime" <anthony@prime.clara.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: Official course on Introduction to CMM (SW) - SEI, USA -
Date: 22 Feb 2000 21:28:13 +0000
> Dear Chief Executive,

[snip}

I presume this means you Ben ;)
-- 
Anthony Prime
>>Powered by Amiga in Crewe
anthony@prime.clara.co.uk



Message 46485

From :BloodStain@t-online.de (Sean FT)
Subject: [afb] Re: Tutorial dearth (careful Ben)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 18:28:27 +0200
Hello Ben

On 23-Feb-00, you wrote:


> Well people running Opus 5.11 should get a life anyway. That version was
> never very good and later ones are available (and more OS3.5 compatible).

I could'nt agree more(he said quickly changing his signature line)old chap!.

                             POWERED BY:      

A4000(T) 040 25+PPC233 144Mb CVPPC PreludeZII+Rombler* IOBlixZII
UltraPlex32X RicohMP6200SCDRW Nomai750.c Mustek1200SP Tiptel506 ISDN Modem
EpsonSC500 OS3.5 
Opus Magellan II etc

*=Still looking for a sound daughter board DB50XG from Yamaha to fit onto
it! (Any offers!)







Message 46486

From :Adam James <adam.james@eidosnet.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: AF136 Idea
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 18:18:08 +0000
Hello Ben

On 23-Feb-00 at 09:54:41, you wrote about [afb] Re: AF136 Idea 

> Hi Adam,
> 
>> as i said before i did not look at the legal side of things but most
>> amiga users may want to see the history of AF but i doubt it.
> 
>> FINAL IDEA : AF why don't you do a theme called "AF Past Present
>> Future" which includes Pictures , reviews , etc etc
> 
> We already do our "100 issues ago" boxout in news every issue - not
> many mags can do that...
> 
> All the best,

The "100 issues ago" in AF is excellent to read :-) but a new title
would sound a bit better "A blast from issue ??~s past"

How about putting old AF Covers issues 1-50 on the CD in .jpg files? 

CU-Amiga (R.I.P) did it which was excellent :-)

-- 
Adam James

(PGP key avail)









Message 46487

From :Adam James <adam.james@eidosnet.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: Wanted:Script for YAM
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 18:27:25 +0000
Hello George

On 23-Feb-00 at 14:15:04, you wrote about [afb] Wanted:Script for YAM 

> Hello,everyone.
> I would like to be able to select an option and have YAM go
> online,download all the mail,then go offline again. I know it's
> possible,but I don't know much about AREXX..and I'm busy.. Has anyone
> else written such a script?
> 
> Seeyaround.

Get Zelador it connects ,downloads mail , logs of internet at any time
and has a nice GUI interface

-- 
Adam James

(PGP key avail)









Message 46488

From :Adam James <adam.james@eidosnet.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: Tutorial dearth
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 18:25:27 +0000
Hello Ben

On 23-Feb-00 at 12:01:02, you wrote about [afb] Tutorial dearth 

> Hi all,
> 
> Two more tutorials came to an end in the issue we've just finished, so
> I'm on the lookout for more to replace them. Any suggestions?
> 
> All the best,

How about a small tutorial explaining how to write HD games installers
using JST or WHDLOAD?  which the 2 are a pain in the ass to do 

or a quick tutorial on turboprint to get the most out of it, which
despite reading the man i still need to do better photo images.

End of message  

-- 
Adam James

(PGP key avail)









Message 46489

From : "Andy Mills" <andy@wharne.u-net.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: Tutorial dearth
Date: 23 Feb 2000 18:15:27 +0000
Hello Neil Bothwick, on 23-Feb-00 16:29:59 you said about:
  [afb] Re: Tutorial dearth 

>Andy Mills said, 

>> With the imminent (ever hopeful) release of cable modems, people could
>> serve their own web pages from their own machines[1]. The security
>> feature could also be tied in with this.

>Cablemodem contracts generally forbid the running of servers.

Darn.

Hang on. Why should I be upset? I don't want to run a web server off my
'Miggy anyway.... :-/

Ah well.

-- 
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Message 46490

From : Pekka Sippola <pekka.sippola@pp.inet.fi>
Subject: [afb] Re: Fusion
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 16:28:49 +0300
Hello Steven

> That, and Fusion doesn't seem to like my SS Hardfiles (since when I
> installed it I couldn't afford to set up a partition for the Mac), so
> assuming I ever got Fusion to run, I'd still be a bit stuffed.

Fusion can be fooled to use SS hardfiles: make a Fusion hardfile and
save it to be used by Fusion. Then delete it and rename the SS hardfile
to the same - the Fusion deleted hardfile must be at least as big as the
SS one. Then boot Fusion - and the hardfile should be there (at least
for me it worked).



Regards
-- 
Zipper

proud owner of A500 powerhouse ala '91
now cooking with A4000/233PPC





Message 46491

From :"Anthony Prime" <anthony@prime.clara.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: Countdown (Was: java 'n' hex)
Date: 23 Feb 2000 17:52:55 +0000
Mr Subtlety. Neil Bothwick said something about [afb] Re: Countdown
(Was: java 'n' hex)

> >> Why didn't they use ferrets? :)
 
> > never send a rat to do a ferrets job :)

> That's be why there were no rats on Calendar, or It'll Be Alright on
> the Night :)

> Neil - possibly being too subtle

Possibly. But I'm sure you were only playing with us. If you meant
business you'd have gone right to the bone.

Anthony - sadly demonstrating an encyclopaedic knowledge of low
budget, low production value,  local TV magazines... I really must get
out more

:(



Message 46492

From :"Anthony Prime" <anthony@prime.clara.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: More miggy's (miggies?) and backup
Date: 23 Feb 2000 18:37:08 +0000
Matthew O'Neill said something about [afb] More miggy's (miggies?) and backup

> I seem to notice the strangest things when I'm pissed. Chicargo's club/pub
> in luton, monday night. 25 screens all displaying the chunky hand with a
> blue floppy disk. ahhh, 'tis a sight to behold =) A600 with scala by the
> way...

Surely if it's a 600 it should be the puple screen with the disk anim?
-- 
Anthony Prime
>>Powered by Amiga in Crewe
anthony@prime.clara.co.uk



Message 46493

From :"Peter Hutchison" <pjhutch@blizzard.u-net.com>
Subject: [afb] re: A500s on Web
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:28:56 -0000
From: "Ben Vost" <ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 14:29:47 +0000
In-Reply-To:
<Pine.GSO.4.21.0002211429440.18705-100000@keeler.central.susx.ac.uk>
X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com
Subject: [afb] Re: Am I missing the point ?
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hi Alan,

>> our coverdisks (since most of them don't have CD-ROMs). He runs a
>> usergroup and he reckons he has 12,000 worldwide members...

> ;-) so ask him why they dont all subscribe..or at least join AFB to
> voice their 1.3 concerns ;-)

>Did I forget to mention that most of his members aren't on the net because
>a) only PCs can do that (and when I pointed out this was not so) b) it'd
>cost too much...

Does it mean that ALL these A500 owners are school kids or students with no
money. Well 35 isn`t *too expensive* at all for a ROM and WB 3.1 upgrade.
Windows 98 is at least twice as expensive. This is the 21st century NOT
1990.
Tell them to start saving. A quid or more a week and then spend it on 3.1!

Internet access could be conceivably be accessible from any computer! As
long
as its got a TCPIP and PPP access you can access the net. Web browsing may
be difficult but email, ftp and ircing doesn`t need much CPU power. Even
A500s
can use ALynx to use the web (minus the gfx). I read that an an ancient
TI-99/4a
managed to browse the web as well! So, for a A500 it ain`t impossible (a bit
slow).

Peter





Peter Hutchison
http://www.blizzard.u-net.com/





Message 46494

From :"Peter Hutchison" <pjhutch@blizzard.u-net.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: Epson stylus 660
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:20:38 -0000
Hi All,

Adam James Wrote
>Does anyone know why my Epson printer prints text in red when i print
>from Multiview, amigaguide, PPGuide ? but in every other program i use
>the text/pictures are perfect, I am using the Turboprint driver Epson
>stylus 640


>Oooohh my Canon BJC600 & BJC4100 both do this.
>I would be interested if anyone has found out why it does this.


This is a known bug when PrinterGfx is set to Colour mode and thus picks
the first colour from RGB ie Red. To print in Black, load PrinterGfx and set
it to black and white. It should now print in Black!




Peter Hutchison
http://www.blizzard.u-net.com/





Message 46495

From :"Peter Hutchison" <pjhutch@blizzard.u-net.com>
Subject: [afb] simple prob.... (I hope)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:34:15 -0000
>I've been trying to use a pc format hard disk on my Amiga for 
>a few days and I'm having a few probs..  I installed the drive 
>and set it to use crossdosfilesystem. This seemed to work fine 
>so I tried to format it, but got an error at the end of the format.
>m I going about this the wrong way?

Are you using Crossdos from WB 3? If so, then it will not work
on hard disks, as it was limited to using 1.44 floppies at most.
You need the full version of Crossdos such as Crossdos 7
to access Zips, Hard disks etc.


Peter Hutchison
http://www.blizzard.u-net.com/





Message 46496

From :"Peter Hutchison" <pjhutch@blizzard.u-net.com>
Subject: [afb] re: re: mounting pc drives
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 16:35:27 -0000
>I have a laptop that I will currently be sending for repair and I want
>to back up some of the data on the 2.5 inch HD.  I am using my A1200 but
>since I only have the standard IDE interface, I have to use a boot
>floppy to mount my CD-ROM drive (Blizzard 1230IV with SCSI) so that I
>can run disk tools from there.

>Using SCSI Mount from the AFCD, the drive shows up but when I try to
>mount it I get an error mumbling about a lack of RDB (which I assume is
>Rigid Disk Block).

Yes ,PCs do not use RDBs at all. They use FAT and MBRs.

>My question is - is it possible to access the files on the PC hard drive
>with just a floppy and CD drive, and if so what filesystems, software
>etc. should I use?

You need a full version of CrossDOS (the one on Workbench only works
with floppies) and a Mountlist to so that Workbench can mount  it. Try
MountDOS on Aminet to create it for you!

>A few floppies should be sufficient for backing up files, so that isn't
>a problem.

That might be a better bet than using mountlists etc.

Peter Hutchison
http://www.blizzard.u-net.com/





Message 46497

From :"Peter Hutchison" <pjhutch@blizzard.u-net.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: Am I missing the point ?
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 17:00:12 -0000

>What was only last year? I'm talking about back in 93, 94 and 95 when
>despite advances in hardware all the games companies still only
>released ECS games.

Which is really annoying as I had an A1200. Most people still had A500s
which is the main market.


> Most of the games bought nowadays are for Playstations and
> Nitendo64s. Most people buy a PC as an easy way to get onto the net
> without having to understand how it works and to be able to use Word
> and other Microsoft office applications.

>I know that, but there is also a *huge* PC games market out there. And
>people who get Windows PCs as an easy way onto the net are deluding
>themselves (or allowing themselves to be deluded). It is far easier to
>get online using an Amiga and a copy of Netconnect3 or Miami, than it
>is using Windows. And I'm speaking from experience here, not out of
>prejudice :)

I found setting up net software just as easy on the PC as on the Amiga
and I can use either system very well.

> Also, the 1200 has the restrictions of chipram so in order to handle
> large graphics files a graphics card and zorro expansion are
> required. The cost of these plus towering up the 1200 is near to
> buying a complete pc and you are then stuck with a third rate
> graphics card which won`t hold a candle to a voodoo 128 bit card or
> a Creative Soundblaster.

I agree there. The cost is far too much and there isn`t much software around
to
make the _full_ use of it! And you are trying to fit them in every nook and
crany
you can find and then discovering that some things won`t work with one
another
or you need another patch or another upgrade to fix it... :(

>But you're left with a nicer system, imho. I would rather use my 030
>AGA Amiga than the latest Windows PC for most tasks. Besides, who
>needs the latest, fastest Voodoo card unless you're heavily into 3D
>games, which you claim you're not.

I find AGA far too slow and Chip RAM to be a big bottleneck on Amigas.
How many people use AGA 256 colour Workbenchs! Not many, slugs on
a bad day, run faster than that!

The BoXeR could have made a killing last Christmas, if it had been released
when they
said it should. At least it doesn`t have any of the restrictions the current
A1200s and
A4000s have and come with full Zorro 3 and unlimited chip ram, faster
chipset and
can be fitted in _cheap_ ATX type boxes than the overpriced Towers we have
to buy
nowadays!


Peter Hutchison
http://www.blizzard.u-net.com/





Message 46498

From :"Peter Hutchison" <pjhutch@blizzard.u-net.com>
Subject: [afb] re: Blitz Basic and OS3.5
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 16:47:45 -0000
From: "Stephen Morley" <stephen@morleysoft.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 15:49:05 -0000
X-Mailing-List: afb@egroups.com
Subject: [afb] Blitz Basic and OS3.5
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

>Sometime this year I'll upgrade to an A4000 with OS3.5, but until then I'm
>stuck with my A1200 with 3.0. I've been using the latest version of Blitz
>Basic (will there be an updated version at some stage?) since summer, and I
>need to know if my programs (that work fine with 3.0) will work properly
>with OS3.5, or are there some compatibility issues?

The only update has been the Blitz Support Suite but that is also hard to
get hold
off as well.
As for OS 3.5, the majority of your software should work. The only thing to
watch
out  for is third party patches such as MCP and some Icon programs that do
not
like the new ColourIcon system introduced in OS3.5. Some new updates are
available
that fix them. See Aminet.



Peter Hutchison
http://www.blizzard.u-net.com/





Message 46499

From :"Nyk Tarr" <Nyk@tomobiki.u-net.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: AF 134 comments
Date: 22 Feb 2000 18:22:52 +0000
Once upon a time in the land of AF-ml,
Jonathan M. Dudley wrote:

> William wrote:

>> and about the b/w cartoon on pages 62-63 ? surely the mailbag could print 
>> few more letters if this was not there

> What? Lose Sabrina? Art thou mad, sir?  :)

You could always buy the collected versions from the publisher:

United Publications :- http://www.lupin.demon.co.uk/

Nyk
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Message 46500

From :"Alex Paton" <alex.paton@tesco.net>
Subject: [afb] Re: Tutorial dearth
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 11:39:29 -0800
Hi Ben,

> 
> Two more tutorials came to an end in the issue we've just finished,
so I'm
> on the lookout for more to replace them. Any suggestions?
> 

TVPaint. This software has a very different interface and is a
fantastic piece of 
software that is free. (although I think you need a graphics card to
use it)

Alex Paton




Message 46501

From :"Jonathan M. Dudley" <jonny@thelabyrinth.free-online.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: The cheques in the post.
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 19:38:34 +0000
Ben Vost wrote:

>> I've just received a letter from that nice man Mr Vost telling me my
>> subscription to his magazine is running out, so I've put a cheque in the
>> post to him.
>
> Oh yeah. Next you'll be telling me that you love me. I haven't got a cheque
> from you at all! Did you make sure you made it out to the initials of my
> organisation: "Commodore Amiga Self-Help"? :)

Crikey! Lucky you pointed that out before I sent mine in!
</gullible>

Regards,
Jonny.
--
If man ruled the world:
Daisy Duke shorts would never go out of fashion.



Message 46502

From :"Erol Ismael" <eismael@netscape.net>
Subject: [afb] Re: CDTV hardware stuff
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 11:58:52 -0800
matthew garrett <mjg5-@cam.ac.uk> wrote: 

> The 520 is a 68020, isn't it?

It is a 030 processor 





Message 46503

From :"Jonathan M. Dudley" <jonny@thelabyrinth.free-online.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: AF 134 comments
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 19:54:07 +0000
Nyk Tarr wrote:

>> What? Lose Sabrina? Art thou mad, sir?  :)
 
> You could always buy the collected versions from the publisher:
>
> United Publications :- http://www.lupin.demon.co.uk/

That's true, but I prefer my monthly "shot in the arm".  :)

Regards,
Jonny.
--
If man ruled the world:
Daisy Duke shorts would never go out of fashion.



Message 46504

From :"Erol Ismael" <eismael@netscape.net>
Subject: [afb] Monitor Switch Box
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 12:09:08 -0800
Does anyone know where I can get a Monitor switch box that will work on
both a vga port and amiga RGB port?
Must have four ports or more to cope with several computers.
thanks

Erol




Message 46505

From :"Erol Ismael" <eismael@netscape.net>
Subject: [afb] Monitor Switch Box
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 12:09:08 -0800
Does anyone know where I can get a Monitor switch box that will work on
both a vga port and amiga RGB port?
Must have four ports or more to cope with several computers.
thanks

Erol




Message 46506

From :Alexander Birrell <sandy@birrell.prestel.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: Tutorial dearth
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 19:34:15 +0000
Hi Ben 

On 23-Feb-00, you wrote:

> Hi Kevin,

>>> Two more tutorials came to an end in the issue we've just finished, so
>>> I'm on the lookout for more to replace them. Any suggestions?


> A "getting the most from Workbench" kind of thing is also on my list of
> possibles, but what would you guys (my very own focus group) want from it?



    What about "Getting the most from your Internet software" setting up,
configuring and usage to get maximum speed and enjoyment surfing the
Internet and using mail and news packages.


-- 


           Don't Worry, Be Happy

                    Sandy
         
            -------------------------------

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            http://www2.prestel.co.uk/birrell/
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        http://www2.prestel.co.uk/birrell/Rabbled   
             ICQ : 41266150




Message 46507

From :Pieter Smit <PSmit@darlington.ac.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: network
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 20:32:41 -0000
Matthew,
10/100Mbit/s ethernet.
----------------------
	You need to find out what type of hub/switch you have.
Common network equipment is either 10Mbit/s or 100Mbit/s. Some, but not all
equipment has ports that are capable of working at 10 or 100.

100Mbit/s for Amiga.
--------------------
	Kato developments http://www.katodev.de/ were working on (the only?)
100Mbit/s card for Zorro, I don't know what the current status of this
project is.

Pieter




Message 46508

From :"Andrew Hall" <hot_gnome@ashhill52.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: Tutorial dearth
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 12:42:15 -0800
Hi Ben,

I like the idea of a OS3.5 tutorial, but I would wait a while before
doing it, to allow the general community ( and me ;-) )to update to 3.5
status. I'm sure there has been enough printed already to keep the
current users going for a couple of months.

Would it be possible for a blitz2 tutorial? Or perhaps a games making
tutoral covering various techniques This could stem the flood of
breakout clones!

Also I distinctly remember CU promising that you would do a C4D
tutorial. Any chance of it now or just a general one in 3Ding.

Also is there a chance of a one-off expaning upon the 3D stuff in the C
tutorial that run last year? The books that were mentioned were =A340
each!!!

Also the sleeve is better than the case (my CD rack has drastically
overfilled), the binding makes no difference and please get rid of the
floppies so we can have more info in the AFCD in the mag.

Cheers

Andy.






Message 46509

From :Bert Volders <bert@volders.demon.nl>
Subject: [afb] Re: JavaScript speed: Solved
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 22:04:37 +0100
Hello,

Yesterday I wondered what parts of JavaScript were slowing things down an=
 awfull lot. Some of you offered me help and some of you told me it would=
 be wise not to use JS in an all to advanced way. =


Today the problems seem to be solved and speed now is no issue anymore. A=
s a matter of fact instead of feeling down by the poor results delivered =
by the big 3 Amiga browsers I realy should have been happy. For some reas=
on both AWEB and V=B3 are so advanced at treating the code that they work=
 around problems I had introduced by forgetting some important tags. Actu=
ally IBrowse2.1 was dead right in not showing a thing on the screen since=
 that would be the only right thing to do. For those who want to know:
(in a nut-shell)

I tried to use JS to generate a vertical table containing `magic' buttons=
 for navigating the site. So if you're trying to do that you'll need a co=
uple of <TR></TR> tags at any row you want to create. Well I had included=
 the </TR> but forgot the opening tag. Silly me.

Also there were some messy things like not closing the links with a </A> =
tag. =


Today I've dumped the old code and started from 0. Now (local on my syste=
m) I've a JS-created menu which works and which does not slow down things=
=2E

So thanks to all you out there who offered me help at this. =


Also I feel like I have to plug IBrowse2.1 a bit. The reason is simple. I=
B2 provides some realy clear error-messages at wrong JS-code (unlike V=B3=
 that's only screaming PARSING ERROR without telling what it is expecting=
) which does make coding a lot easier.

Regards
-- =

Bert Volders

bert@volders.demon.nl
<sb>
Tag of the day:
Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most times he will
pick himself up and carry on...
-- Winston Churchill





Message 46510

From :Bippy M <BippyM@stingent.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] AmPCS 2
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 21:14:02 +0000
Hiya Guys,

Right my latest proggie AMPCS v2.0 is almost complete.. It is an update of
my current proggie AmPCSv1.7.

The AMPCS bit stands for AMiga Phone Code Search, and as the title suggests
it searches for dialling codes..

V2.0 is a major update (Complete re-write) from v1.7, and as such has a few
more features and optimisations.. 

The codes are also customisable, so none of this UK only crap.. I have codes
for UK and Austrailia.. and half the codes for US (Over 20thou atm..)

I'm looking for beta testers.. the current ver isn't finished, but I'd like
some feedback and ideas..

If you're interested email me, telling me so, and don't forget to tell me
which codes file you want UK, Aussie, or US!!

T'ra

Bippy M
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Message 46511

From :Bippy M <BippyM@stingent.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: Cd videos
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 21:19:33 +0000
Howdy Geoffrey

On 19-Feb-00, Geoffrey Dodd wrote:

Hi I know I'm prolly a little late replying here, and part way through the
thread but .. hey..

Oki.. it looks to me like your filesystem cannot read multi-session CD's or
CD's with the data track AFTER audio tracks..

The data track is the last track on the CD (Afaik), so you need a filesystem
that reads these. afaik the latest CacheCDFS does, and so does AsimCDFS (I
believe).

Regards

Bippy
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Message 46512

From :"David Porter" <dporter@shadowss.screaming.net>
Subject: [afb] SSL Transfers
Date: 23 Feb 2000 21:19:56 -0500
Hi guys,

I'm using V3, latest version and what I'd like to do is make contact
with a credit card company that I've just signed onto.
The problem is that although I was able to register all my details on
this SSL site only, and recieved my credit card, now, when I try to
access the site, I get the response Insufficient encryption, this
document requires a larger key size for encryption than your browser
is capable of supporting.  The site asks for 128k SSL.  As far as I
know this is what V3 is capable of.

Any help on this would be greatley appreciated

Many thanks

Dave Porter




Message 46513

From :Bippy M <BippyM@stingent.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: MakeCD help!
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 21:21:23 +0000
Howdy Steven

On 20-Feb-00, Steven Holmes wrote:

SH> Hello all,

SH> Whilst I am thinking about it (see previous post), does anyone know how
SH> to fix my MakeCD problem?
SH> Basically, the damn program won't keep my registration code saved and I
SH> have to enter it every time I want to use it! Aaaargh! Nnnnngggghh! :-(

<CUT>

Try the MakeCD mailinglist or webpage!!


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Message 46514

From :"Nick Darley-Jones" <nickdj@free4all.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] MP3 streaming
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:23:01 -0800
Hi everyone,

After reading about streaming MP3 files off the internet I installed
'StreamMP3' and have it working (almost).  Unfortunately the sound that
comes when playing these streams is a very broken.

My question is, how can I reconfigure the 'StreamMP3.rx' file so that it
uses a lower quality hence resulting is continuous sound?  I tried 
editing the file using 'ed' but then the file didn't work.

My system is A1200 '040 25Mhz.  BTW, isn't 'Prayer2.0' great!  Just wish
it was easier to register!

Regards,
Nick.

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Message 46515

From :"Paul Cundle" <paulc@lantik.u-net.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: Countdown (was java 'n' hex)
Date: 23 Feb 2000 21:23:35 +0000
> ..my question is...
 
> Whats the point of the other half of the clock in Countdown???

I know this thread has turned into a bizarre joke now, but I've just
heard the "definitive" answer on the radio so I'll put you out of
your misery.

Apparently Countdown started as a French programme, but the French
needed more time than us so they got a whole minute. When we nicked
the program, we probably nicked the clock.

Possibly </disclaimer>
 
> alan

Paul C, with air conditioning as standard
-- 
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Message 46516

From :Bippy M <BippyM@stingent.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: Cd videos
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 21:23:11 +0000
Howdy Matthew

On 19-Feb-00, Matthew O'Neill wrote:

MO> On 19-Feb-00, Geoffrey Dodd wrote:

MO>> Hi again well I`am using wb3.5 but if it is the filesystem canI get one
MO>> that can open the Cds.

MO> They're not dvds are they? they look identical...

A normal Hi-Fi cannot read DVD discs.. so they can't be eh!!

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Message 46517

From :"Daniel Thornton" <thewibble@cwcom.net>
Subject: [afb] Re: AF136 Idea
Date: 23 Feb 2000 20:27:55 +0000
On Wed, 23 Feb 2000 18:18:08 +0000, adam.james@eidosnet.co.uk wibbled...

> How about putting old AF Covers issues 1-50 on the CD in .jpg files? 

That has also already been done; it was probably early last year.

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Message 46518

From : Pekka Sippola <pekka.sippola@pp.inet.fi>
Subject: [afb] Re: A500s on Web
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 23:23:16 +0300
Hello Peter

> Internet access could be conceivably be accessible from any computer!
> .... to browse the web as well! So, for a A500 it ain`t impossible
> (a bit slow).

Not for my A500T/060-57 ;-)

Regards
-- 
Zipper

proud owner of A500 powerhouse ala '91
now cooking with A4000/233PPC





Message 46519

From :Matthew O'Neill <mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: limit
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:27:45 +0100
On 22-Feb-00, fool wrote:

>> I'm one of the biggest posters,

> Biggest something anyway...

Ohhh, aren't we clever

> That's because the limit is only reached after your bedtime. If the limit
> is reached on any given day, it's always reached late in the evening
> rather than during the day for the simple reason that the limit applies to
> the 24 hours that starts with 8AM GMT.

The limit has been reached plenty of times while I'm posting, but like I
said, I've never got one of those moderator mails

>> Put your foot in it again have we?

> Yeah right, Mash, as long as you're happy in your own little world where
> arguments are won by not replying to any of your opponents points or
> indeed by not replying at all.

I've answered all of your points, and what the hell are you on about not
replying at all? Are you deliberately trying to look idiotic?

> posts, it is not "as much as" - that statement doesn't even apply to you
> so don't be quite so quick to take offence next time, you irritating moron
> ;p

Just in case you hadn't noticed, this is a mailing list with lots of poeple
on it where anyone can reply to any message and indeed is meant to, if
you're so stuck up that you dont want anyone else replying why dont you do
it through private mail, that way no-one can disturb you.

Ben I'm starting to get sick of this. I'm on this list because I like being
here and I like most of the poeple. I know that several people didn't like
the comment that I posted and I've apologised for it. But a select few had
decided to have a go at me in every way possible in every mail they post. I
dont want to leave the list because I have made lots of friends here &
enjoy helping everyone.

Mash - waiting for the next arsehole to have a go at me in this mail
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Message 46520

From :Matthew O'Neill <mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: Bill McEwen video conference...
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 12:38:48 +0100
On 23-Feb-00, Andy Mills wrote:

> 3) We have to find a way to pay for 3 128k ISDN lines for an hour (ouch)

Well at this point I would tell Andy that he could get a cheap cable modem
and connect to NTL where he lives, but as he's been mature enough to KF me
he'll never find out, unless someone else replies to this and my text is
quoted again.

Mash - 
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Abort, Retry, Find another line of work.......








Message 46521

From :Matthew O'Neill <mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: limit
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:29:54 +0100
Hi Neil

>> I'm one of the biggest posters, I've been here for months and I've
>> *NEVER* had such a message actually. Put your foot in it again have we?

> The limit is usually reached quite late in the day, probably past your
> bedtime :)

I know but it has been reached earlier before like when it all got sold
again and collas left, but I still never got one then

Mash - 
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Message 46522

From :Matthew O'Neill <mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: limit
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:12:09 +0100
On 22-Feb-00, Andy Mills wrote:

>> I'm one of the biggest posters, I've been here for months and I've
>> *NEVER* had such a message actually. Put your foot in it again have we?

> No, fool hasn't put his foot in it. Go to the Egroups help section and
> "RTFM".

I suggest you do, seeing as I know how this list works. I was just saying
I'd never got one of those moderator mails and all you can do is critisize,
you dont know when to stop do you?

> BTW, I wouldn't have said you were one of the biggest /posters/...

and what is that supposed to mean?

Mash - 
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Message 46523

From :Matthew O'Neill <mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: AF136 Idea
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 12:33:20 +0100
On 23-Feb-00, Ben Vost wrote:

> We already do our "100 issues ago" boxout in news every issue - not many
> mags can do that...

Do you actually have the original mags or do you have the original files?

Mash - 
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Ura Redneck if your neighbors have ever asked to borrow the light bulb.








Message 46524

From :Sandy Brownlee <sandy@brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: GLQuake
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 21:45:04 +0000
Hello riksweeney@hotmail.com

On 23-Feb-00, you wrote:

> Is now available from 
> 
> http://devnull.owl.de/~frank/GLQuakeWOS.gz

What's the difference between GLQuake & normal Quake?

> baby.

Yeah baby, yeah!

Regards

        Sandy

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Message 46525

From :Sandy Brownlee <sandy@brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: Tutorial dearth
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 21:47:56 +0000
Hello Ben

On 23-Feb-00, you wrote:

> Two more tutorials came to an end in the issue we've just finished, so I'm
> on the lookout for more to replace them. Any suggestions?

Hows about a more in- depth Blitz tutorial, or one for PureBasic?

Regards

        Sandy

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Message 46526

From :Sandy Brownlee <sandy@brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: Tutorial dearth
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 21:53:16 +0000
Hello Ben

On 23-Feb-00, you wrote:

>>> Two more tutorials came to an end in the issue we've just finished,
>> so I'm
>>> on the lookout for more to replace them. Any suggestions?
> 
>>> Ok, how about AMOS/Blitz Basic ?
>> Well, you did ask !
> 
> Why are you entering your reply inside quotes? Very confusing! Anyway, I'd
> rather do something other than programming since very few people seem to
> do it...

I think the Amiga community as a whole needs more porgrammers- remember the
excellent hardware, but poor software thing?

If you don't like the idea of a porgramming tutorial, how about a "Get the
best out of OS3.5," or a beginner's guide to various seperate parts of the
internet.

ie wk1: Get connected
wk2: The Web
wk3: Email
wk4: IRC
wk5: Newsgroups

etc. I would probably use more than just Mail and Web/FTP if I knew what was
going on. A full tutorial would give a chance to explore the depths of
different parts of the net more closely, rather than the one- off "Get
connected" features we've had before.

Regards

        Sandy


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Message 46527

From :"russell wright" <russkins@russ-net.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: AF136 Idea
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 14:09:05 -0800
I think they have the original mags kept somewhere safe which is a
shame as I badly need Issues 1 and 2 to complete my set. I even have
the set of ST Amiga Format magazines.  I must fill in a readers ad
coupon today!   While I'm here. Can anyone help with these missing
issues.  Thanks.

Russ
russ01908@hotmail.com

Matthew wrote:-
Do you actually have the original mags or do you have the original
files?





Message 46528

From :"Alex Furmanski" <a.furmanski@virgin.net>
Subject: [afb] Re: Countdown (Was: java 'n' hex)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 22:07:19 -0000
Hi Mash

> >> Whats the point of the other half of the clock in Countdown???
>
> > So I'm not alone in wondering this...
>
> > Maybe they use it to get the pointer back up again.
>
> This weeks lie: They were originally meant to get a full minute, but the
> mice behind the clock which run to make it turn, didn't have the energy
to
> get the hand back to the top, the budjet didn't allow for rats which
> would've been up to the job

Oi!  That's crap.  And anyway, budget's spelt with a g not a j ;-)

Lovely job
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This week's lie: By a vastly improbable coincidence, every person in
Finland has booked a holiday in the Algarve for the first fortnight in
July.




Message 46529

From :"Danny Shepherd" <shepherd1@cableinet.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] News just in - yeah right
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 22:14:08 -0000
Hello All,

I was taking a quick flick through http://www.reactorcritical.com when I saw
this

23 February - ATI-powered Amiga

Gateway is going to ressurect Amiga by releasing a system called Amiga
Multimedia Convergence Computer. The news product will be based on a CPU
from Transmeta and a 3D graphics chipset from ATI. Unfortunately, it's
unknown which one.

Well I had a little chuckle anyhow.

Bye,

Danny Shepherd




Message 46530

From :"Alex Furmanski" <a.furmanski@virgin.net>
Subject: [afb] Re: OT: Fillums (was: More A1200 Qs)
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 22:22:02 -0000
Hi Matthew

> > A standard PAL or NTSC Interlace screen has a refresh of 25Hz which
> > means that the screen is updated 25 times a second, this is how
>
> Although because of these interlace fields, its actually 50fps which is
why
> a tv picture looks smoother than a film =)

Oooh, get this fact-fans! A TV picture is run at 24 frames/sec whereas
films are recorded at 25 fps (I think, they might be the other way around)
so when they show a film on the telly they have to chop a few frames out
here and there so what was a 180 minute film in the cinema ends up as a
179 minute film on TV (or something).

Lovely job
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Message 46531

From :Vaughn Atkinson <vaughn@manc.abelgratis.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: Workbench in QNX stylee...
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 19:45:55 +0100
Hi Paul

On 23-Feb-00, you wrote:

=3D> How good does it look in 8 colours though? :(

Well, assuming you chose pens carefully, and locked them with Fullpalette=
 or
something, you could probably get away with it. I'll look into this and s=
ee if I
can get it looking half decent. I still think 32 might have to be the min=
imum,
realistically. I'm running it in 64 colours, although the gadgets were pr=
oduced
in 256, to favour the Graphics card posse (which I hope to soon be a memb=
er
of!!)

=3D> Send it in; its better than nothing at all!

Talk about damning with faint praise! (NO - DON'T TALK ABOUT IT) ;o)

I see what you mean, though - the reader stuff has been dwindling a bit o=
f late.

=3D> How do you propose such a desktop? WIth the tight integration of
=3D> Birdie, VisualPrefs, and ARexx? ;)

It is a purely visual thing - no arexx whatsoever. I just want to be kind=
 to
people's eyes!! Plus it gave me something to do on a particularly unevent=
ful
day. I'm still in the process of refining it, but its pretty damn close n=
ow.

Vaughn=




Message 46532

From :Matthew O'Neill <mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: More A1200 Qs
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:31:30 +0100
Hi Andy

>>> Just had a look in the afb folder here. I love this guy Mash.
>>> He really brightens my day.

>> Me too. I feel almost perverse; actually *wanting* to read what he has to
>> say, hoping he's posted loads.

You know where to send the fan mail :)

> Unfortunately, it's twats like Mash that bring out the worst in me....

Well you wont care anymore seeing as you've KF'd me.

Mash - 
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Message 46533

From :Matthew O'Neill <mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: POLL: The Orange Colour Scheme
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:34:42 +0100
On 22-Feb-00, Neil Bullock wrote:

>>> Ben would be well and truly scr^H^H^Htroubled by this, I'm sure
>> What on earth is ^H^H^H ? I've seen several similar things on your mails
>> before

> If you look on the Keyshow thingy in Workbench, you'll find that ^H is
> written on the backspace key. That's what it means :)

> (sorry, best I could explain it)

So every time you hit backspace it plonks that in instead of deleting it? so
you were gonna write than "ben would be well and truly scr" something or
other beggining with scr?

Mash - 
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I can resist everything/anything except temptation.








Message 46534

From :"Kevin Fairhurst" <redvers@redvers.u-net.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: POLL: The Orange Colour Scheme
Date: 23 Feb 2000 22:33:22 +0000
On Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:34:42 +0100, Matthew O'Neill (mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk) wrote:
> On 22-Feb-00, Neil Bullock wrote:
> 
> >>> Ben would be well and truly scr^H^H^Htroubled by this, I'm sure
> >> What on earth is ^H^H^H ? I've seen several similar things on your mails
> >> before
> 
> > If you look on the Keyshow thingy in Workbench, you'll find that ^H is
> > written on the backspace key. That's what it means :)
> 
> > (sorry, best I could explain it)
> 
> So every time you hit backspace it plonks that in instead of deleting it? so
> you were gonna write than "ben would be well and truly scr" something or
> other beggining with scr?

*I*  (not N B ) was gonna write "Ben would be well and trully screwed" but
humourously put the three ^H's in and changed it to troubled ...

Kev

-- 
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Message 46535

From :Matthew O'Neill <mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: POLL: The Orange Colour Scheme
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:36:44 +0100
On 22-Feb-00, Kevin Fairhurst wrote:

> ^H stands for CTRL-H which is the code for the 'Delete' key. Therefore,
> people who know this can use the ^H as a substitute in email, for
> humourous effect.

Such as:

I wish Fool would die^H^H^Hhave a nice day ?

;)

Mash - 
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Message 46536

From :"Kevin Fairhurst" <redvers@redvers.u-net.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: POLL: The Orange Colour Scheme
Date: 23 Feb 2000 22:40:54 +0000
On Wed, 23 Feb 2000 13:36:44 +0100, Matthew O'Neill (mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk) wrote:
> On 22-Feb-00, Kevin Fairhurst wrote:
> 
> > ^H stands for CTRL-H which is the code for the 'Delete' key. Therefore,
> > people who know this can use the ^H as a substitute in email, for
> > humourous effect.
> 
> Such as:
> 
> I wish Fool would die^H^H^Hhave a nice day ?

Yes. Except you'd normally not replace awhole word.  it has much better
effect as follows:

I wish mash would fuc^H^Hetch me a beer ...

Kev

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Message 46537

From :Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>
Subject: [afb] Re: GLQuake
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 22:47:11 +0000
Hi Everybody,

> What's the difference between GLQuake & normal Quake?

   GLQuake uses hardware 3d accelleration. On a PC it displays at ~60fps =
as opposed to ~30fps normal quake.

   I can't try it (no 3d gfx card) but from what I've heard on the poweru=
p list, amiga glquake runs fine on some peoples amigas, but crashes other=
 peoples...

See ya :)
-- =

       Manta Soft  -  Amiga programing & web page designing
          http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/       ICQ: 21829166
          Homepage updated 22/1/00 - Large hompage update       =

  - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- -
Windows: Crashing your computer in ways other Operating Systems can only =
dream of.




Message 46538

From :Andrew Crowe <andrewcrowe@enterprise.net>
Subject: [afb] Re: MP3 streaming
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 22:55:24 +0000
Hi Everybody,
 =

> After reading about streaming MP3 files off the internet I installed
> 'StreamMP3' and have it working (almost).  Unfortunately the sound that=

> comes when playing these streams is a very broken.
> =

> My question is, how can I reconfigure the 'StreamMP3.rx' file so that i=
t
> uses a lower quality hence resulting is continuous sound?  I tried =

> editing the file using 'ed' but then the file didn't work.
> =

> My system is A1200 '040 25Mhz.  BTW, isn't 'Prayer2.0' great!  Just wis=
h
> it was easier to register!

   Ah yes, you won't be able to play mp3's full quality on your 040 (i kn=
ow, I have one, but I have a ppc in there as well ;)

   Basically, look through the rexx file, find (I presume it uses mpega) =
the mpega command line and use the -d 4 option. =


Although, how fast is your modem and what bitrate is the mp3 stream?

cd-quality mp3 is around 128-144kbps. Keep in mind that a 56k modem will =
only handel a max of 56kbps stream (although you'd be lucky if you got 20=
k over the internet :)

See ya :)
-- =

       Manta Soft  -  Amiga programing & web page designing
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Message 46539

From :Christopher Ross-Gill <chris@ross-gill.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: re: re: mounting pc drives
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 22:55:35 +0000
Peter Hutchison wrote:
> 
> You need a full version of CrossDOS (the one on Workbench only works
> with floppies)

Not strictly true, I have used a PC formatted Zip disk with a Zip Plus
drive with nothing more than a Workbench CrossDos mountlist (I was very
impressed, and certainly impressed the person I borrowed the drive
from).  I know internal hard drives are slightly different tho.

> and a Mountlist to so that Workbench can mount  it. Try
> MountDOS on Aminet to create it for you!

Thanks, I'll have a go :-)

- Chris



Message 46540

From :"Oliver Masters" <oll@masterspiece.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: PCMCIA network cards/CC_reset question.
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 23:33:40 -0000
Chris Bayliss said:
>  I have got one of those on my system without the reset fix and it works
> perfectly even after reboots. Its a revision 2B your interested.
>  If you want to do the fix without soldering you could try getting
> clips that
> hook on to the chips legs maplins have some in there catalouge. I was
> looking
> into these but since it worked ok I didn`t bother.

Hiya Chris,

Thanks for that. I was looking at network cards earlier but held of on
buying one until I knew what the plot was. I have a 2B motherboard, so I
might be okay too. I'll have a look at Maplins website for those clips just
in case, my soldering sucks.

See ya later,

Oll




Message 46541

From : "Andy Mills" <andy@wharne.u-net.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: Bill McEwen video conference...
Date: 24 Feb 2000 0:0:29 +0000
Hello Matthew O'Neill, on 23-Feb-00 11:38:48 you said about:
  [afb] Re: Bill McEwen video conference... 

>On 23-Feb-00, Andy Mills wrote:

>> 3) We have to find a way to pay for 3 128k ISDN lines for an hour (ouch)

>Well at this point I would tell Andy that he could get a cheap cable modem
>and connect to NTL where he lives, but as he's been mature enough to KF me
>he'll never find out, unless someone else replies to this and my text is
>quoted again.

Well, actually, I forgot to do the KF jobby, but in response to your
comments:

1) This conference is a "direct" connection to the USA, *not* over the
internet.

2) This needs a two way 384Kbps connection (six times 64Kbs ISDN lines),
cablemodem (and this is according to the NTL web-site), while it can
download at 512Kbps, can only manage 128Kbps upload speed.

3) I need specialist equipment to take part in this conference, which I
cannot and will not buy.

4) Anywhere I go to rent conference facilities from, that will have this
equipment will (or should) already have ISDN.

5) Why would I want to change phone companies, buy a cable modem and a
network card, for something that's useless to me (see below)

6) I am *not* able to connect to NTL here (yet - even though they have
bought Cable & Wireless, alledgedly)) as Telewest run the cable services
in this area, don't contradict me on this because I've already tried
several Bristol postcodes, including my own, on NTL's web site.

Need I say any more?

-- 
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 South West Amiga Group - http://www.swag.org.uk
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Message 46542

From : "Andy Mills" <andy@wharne.u-net.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: limit
Date: 23 Feb 2000 22:45:40 +0000
Hello Matthew O'Neill, on 23-Feb-00 12:12:09 you said about:
  [afb] Re: limit 

>On 22-Feb-00, Andy Mills wrote:

>>> I'm one of the biggest posters, I've been here for months and I've
>>> *NEVER* had such a message actually. Put your foot in it again have we?

>> No, fool hasn't put his foot in it. Go to the Egroups help section and
>> "RTFM".

>I suggest you do, seeing as I know how this list works. I was just saying

I don't need to. Why? because I already have. Why? Because I `own'/run
four mailing lists on Egroups.

>I'd never got one of those moderator mails and all you can do is critisize,
>you dont know when to stop do you?

Bet you didn't know I'm related to the Energiser Bunny...

>> BTW, I wouldn't have said you were one of the biggest /posters/...

>and what is that supposed to mean?

Want me to draw you a picture?

Ahem.

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Message 46543

From : "Andy Mills" <andy@wharne.u-net.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: limit
Date: 23 Feb 2000 22:49:24 +0000
Hello Matthew O'Neill, on 23-Feb-00 12:27:45 you said about:
  [afb] Re: limit 

>On 22-Feb-00, fool wrote:

>>> I'm one of the biggest posters,

>> Biggest something anyway...

>Ohhh, aren't we clever

>> That's because the limit is only reached after your bedtime. If the limit
>> is reached on any given day, it's always reached late in the evening
>> rather than during the day for the simple reason that the limit applies to
>> the 24 hours that starts with 8AM GMT.

>The limit has been reached plenty of times while I'm posting, but like I
>said, I've never got one of those moderator mails

<next arsehole>

Just one question...

How do you know that the limit has been reached, if you don't get the
moderator mails? And before you say it, Ben doesn't always post saying
that the limit has been reached...

>Mash - waiting for the next arsehole to have a go at me in this mail

</next arsehole>

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Message 46544

From : "Andy Mills" <andy@wharne.u-net.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: GLQuake
Date: 23 Feb 2000 23:4:37 +0000
Hello Sandy Brownlee, on 23-Feb-00 21:45:04 you said about:
  [afb] Re: GLQuake 

>Hello riksweeney@hotmail.com

>On 23-Feb-00, you wrote:

>> Is now available from 
>> 
>> http://devnull.owl.de/~frank/GLQuakeWOS.gz

>What's the difference between GLQuake & normal Quake?

On the PC, quite a bit...

GLQuake (on the PC) has a lot better `quality' look, with finer pixels,
etc. and basically, makes use of 3D chips, IIRC.

-- 
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 South West Amiga Group - http://www.swag.org.uk
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Corrugated iron is really groovy.




Message 46545

From :Ben Chapman <Ben.Chapman@di-games.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: Nice games...
Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 22:41:03 +0100
Hello George

> Oh YES! Hired Guns is the 'Best Game Ever ' :)
> I heard a rumour that the author actually wrote an AGA version,but it was
> never released..
> Wouldn't that be nice?

I loved Hired Guns too.....I think one of my fave Amiga games ever has to be
BattleTech though.... fantastic game, i left my A500 on for a week solid
playing that..... :)


Best Regards

Ben Chapman

Digital Images




Message 46546

From :Ben Chapman <Ben.Chapman@di-games.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: disabling accelerators
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 18:40:24 +0100
Hello Alan


> How hard would it be to just disable the processor and keep the
> memory+020?

Heh.... that's the one thing i wanted to do, and as far as i can tell, it's
not possible. There are games i wanted to play and they require extra memory
than the standard 2mb, but they don't like the 040, so if you could disable
the 040 and keep the memory, it would have solved all my problems.....

Alas.......


Best Regards

Ben Chapman

Digital Images




Message 46547

From :Adam James <adam.james@eidosnet.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: Epson stylus 660
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 20:46:45 +0000
Hello Peter

On 23-Feb-00 at 13:20:38, you wrote about [afb] Re: Epson stylus 660 

> Hi All,
> 
> Adam James Wrote
>> Does anyone know why my Epson printer prints text in red when i print
>> from Multiview, amigaguide, PPGuide ? but in every other program i
>> use the text/pictures are perfect, I am using the Turboprint driver
>> Epson stylus 640
> 
> 
>> Oooohh my Canon BJC600 & BJC4100 both do this.
>> I would be interested if anyone has found out why it does this.
> 
> 
> This is a known bug when PrinterGfx is set to Colour mode and thus
> picks the first colour from RGB ie Red. To print in Black, load
> PrinterGfx and set it to black and white. It should now print in
> Black!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Peter Hutchison
> http://www.blizzard.u-net.com/
> 

Thanks Already sorted it out and it works excelllent and the website URL
above is excellent :-) 

-- 
Adam James

(PGP key avail)









Message 46548

From :Adam James <adam.james@eidosnet.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: AF136 Idea
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 23:05:34 +0000
Hello Daniel

On 23-Feb-00 at 20:27:55, you wrote about [afb] Re: AF136 Idea 

> On Wed, 23 Feb 2000 18:18:08 +0000, adam.james@eidosnet.co.uk
> wibbled...
> 
>> How about putting old AF Covers issues 1-50 on the CD in .jpg files? 
> 
> That has also already been done; it was probably early last year.
> 

WOW cool do you know what AFCD it was on?

-- 
Adam James

(PGP key avail)









Message 46549

From :"Nick Darley-Jones" <nickdj@free4all.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: MP3 streaming
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 17:09:25 -0800
Hello Andrew,

> > After reading about streaming MP3 files off the internet I installed
> > 'StreamMP3' and have it working (almost).  Unfortunately the sound
that
> > comes when playing these streams is a very broken.
> > 
> > My question is, how can I reconfigure the 'StreamMP3.rx' file so
that it
> > uses a lower quality hence resulting is continuous sound?  I tried 
> > editing the file using 'ed' but then the file didn't work.
> > 
> > My system is A1200 '040 25Mhz.  BTW, isn't 'Prayer2.0' great!  Just
wish
> > it was easier to register!
> 
>    Ah yes, you won't be able to play mp3's full quality on your 040
(i know, I have one, but I have a ppc in there as well ;)
> 
>    Basically, look through the rexx file, find (I presume it uses
mpega) the mpega command line and use the -d 4 option. 
> 
> Although, how fast is your modem and what bitrate is the mp3 stream?
> 
> cd-quality mp3 is around 128-144kbps. Keep in mind that a 56k modem
will only handel a max of 56kbps stream (although you'd be lucky if you
got 20k over the internet :)

I am using a 56K modem and an ioblix1200s.  At the moment I am only
using a
connection speed of 115200  (230400 a bit unsteady).  I am testing with
a
MP3 stream from the http://www.iocon.com/mp3/mp3.index (as in the read
me 
file) and the stream should be a 48K mono, or something like that.

What exactly do I change?  If I use 'ed' and then save any changes then
StreamMP3 doesn't work.  I get an error saying something about quotes??

Do you mean the line that goes something like this.
mp3args = '-m -t2000 -f22050 -I0002000'

This is the first time I have tried anthing like this so I apologise if
I sound a bit think.

Regards.
Nick. 




Message 46550

From :"Neil Bullock" <tsoft@tsoft.screaming.net>
Subject: [afb] Re: AF136 Idea
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 01:13:40 -0000
> >> How about putting old AF Covers issues 1-50 on the CD in .jpg files?
> > That has also already been done; it was probably early last year.
> WOW cool do you know what AFCD it was on?

I think it was AFCD16 (the Issue 100 CD). Issue's 1 - 100's covers are on
there.

--
Neil Bullock
URL: http://www.trogsoft.co.uk  Email: tsoft@tsoft.screaming.net
ICQ: 27873010                   IRC: frodo.afternet.org/#trogsoft
--





Message 46551

From :"Gerald Mellor" <9745589@tiree.sms.ed.ac.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: Shocking news!
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 03:12:21 +0000
On 23 Feb 00, at 16:13, Kevin Fairhurst wrote:

> The thing is, I wouldn't mind if it was a decent machine, but it's a P75
> with 32Mb RAM!

The first thing to do when you get access to a PC is install RC5 and 
crack some keys for the Amiga team :) A P75 won't be incredibly 
fast, but every little helps, as Tesco say. (or is it Safeway?)

Bauglir





Message 46552

From :"Gerald Mellor" <9745589@tiree.sms.ed.ac.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: Workbench in QNX stylee...
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 03:12:32 +0000
On 23 Feb 00, at 19:45, Vaughn Atkinson wrote:

> Well, assuming you chose pens carefully, and locked them with Fullpalette or
> something, you could probably get away with it. I'll look into this and see if I
> can get it looking half decent. I still think 32 might have to be the minimum,
> realistically. I'm running it in 64 colours, although the gadgets were produced
> in 256, to favour the Graphics card posse (which I hope to soon be a member
> of!!)

You're running Birdie in AGA with 64 colours? Is it worth it? I'd like to 
see a screenshot :)

Bauglir



Message 46553

From :"Bill Griffin" <wd8izh@beanstalk.net>
Subject: [afb] Hey Ben. I might have a stumper for you.
Date: 24 Feb 2000 03:19:27 +0500
While helping the owner of Centsible Software sort through his latest
purchase, I came across the owners manual for an A300 (this is NOT a
misprint, and it is not an A3k). Now, in looking through the manual, I
was able to determine that this computer was brought out under a
different name. Do you know what it is?
-- 
Its gonna be a heck of a century!

Bill Griffin,

G&G Publishing Enterprises



Message 46554

From :"David McMinn" <dave@satanicdreams.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: Hey Ben. I might have a stumper for you.
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 00:54:15 -0800
> While helping the owner of Centsible Software sort through his latest
> purchase, I came across the owners manual for an A300 (this is NOT a
> misprint, and it is not an A3k). Now, in looking through the manual, I
> was able to determine that this computer was brought out under a
> different name. Do you know what it is?

Probably the A600, it was going to be labelled less than 500 to
indicate it was a small console-y type thing. But they thought that
making it the A300 would give people the impression that it was a cost
cutting, low end, piece of crap.

Hmmm....






Message 46555

From :"Paul Laycock" <amipal@yahoo.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: Workbench in QNX stylee...
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 01:12:52 -0800
Hi Gerald,

> You're running Birdie in AGA with 64 colours? Is it worth it? I'd
like to 
> see a screenshot :)

I've tried Birdie in 64 colours, and the results are pretty good. Looks
crap in 8 though! ;)

Paul Laycock




Message 46556

From :"Kevin Fairhurst" <redvers@redvers.u-net.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: Hey Ben. I might have a stumper for you.
Date: 24 Feb 2000 09:19:08 +0000
On 24 Feb 2000 03:19:27 +0500, Bill Griffin (wd8izh@beanstalk=2Enet) wrote:
> While helping the owner of Centsible Software sort through his latest
> purchase, I came across the owners manual for an A300 (this is NOT a
> misprint, and it is not an A3k)=2E Now, in looking through the manual, I
> was able to determine that this computer was brought out under a
> different name=2E Do you know what it is?

IIRC it's =2E=2E=2E=2E the CD=B3=B2 !!

Kev

--=20
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM




Message 46557

From :"Ben Vost" <ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: AF136 Idea
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 09:19:36 +0000
Hi Matthew,

> Do you actually have the original mags or do you have the original files?

We have (nearly all) the original mags.

All the best,
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Editor, Amiga Format                             F: (+44) 01225 732275
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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acquired in exchange for painful sexual favors.





Message 46558

From :"Kevin Fairhurst" <redvers@redvers.u-net.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: Shocking news!
Date: 24 Feb 2000 09:21:57 +0000
On Thu, 24 Feb 2000 03:12:21 +0000, Gerald Mellor (9745589@tiree.sms.ed.ac.uk) wrote:
> On 23 Feb 00, at 16:13, Kevin Fairhurst wrote:
> 
> > The thing is, I wouldn't mind if it was a decent machine, but it's a P75
> > with 32Mb RAM!
> 
> The first thing to do when you get access to a PC is install RC5 and 
> crack some keys for the Amiga team :) A P75 won't be incredibly 
> fast, but every little helps, as Tesco say. (or is it Safeway?)

Yeah that's something I'm planning on doing.  However, I've yet to set up a
net connection on it yet - that's planned for later.

I'm also considering networking it to my miggy, if anyone has any pointers ...

Kev

-- 
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM




Message 46559

From :"Ben Vost" <ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: Am I missing the point ?
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 09:24:53 +0000
Hi Peter,

>> What was only last year? I'm talking about back in 93, 94 and 95 when
>> despite advances in hardware all the games companies still only
>> released ECS games.

> Which is really annoying as I had an A1200. Most people still had A500s
> which is the main market.

I think that's the point of the original post - PC games companies certainly
don't write games for the main portion of the market, otherwise they
wouldn't require PIIIs, 3D gfx cards and the like.

All the best,
-- 
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Editor, Amiga Format                             F: (+44) 01225 732275
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
ASCII stupid question, get a stupid ANSI





Message 46560

From :"Ben Vost" <ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: AF136 Idea
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 09:28:28 +0000
Hi Adam,

> The "100 issues ago" in AF is excellent to read :-) but a new title
> would sound a bit better "A blast from issue ??~s past"

> How about putting old AF Covers issues 1-50 on the CD in .jpg files? 

We put all of the first 99 covers on the CD in AF100 (and then more, but I
can't remember on which CD). </me uses AFCDFind> AFCD38, in the Reader
Requests drawer for the first 99.

All the best,
-- 
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Editor, Amiga Format                             F: (+44) 01225 732275
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
World Health Organisation appeals for snappy name for devastating new
plague





Message 46561

From :"Ben Vost" <ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: Tutorial dearth
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 09:30:39 +0000
Hi Alexander,

>    What about "Getting the most from your Internet software" setting up,
> configuring and usage to get maximum speed and enjoyment surfing the
> Internet and using mail and news packages.

Again?!

All the best,
-- 
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Editor, Amiga Format                             F: (+44) 01225 732275
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Excuse for the day: MTBF exceeded





Message 46562

From :"Ben Vost" <ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: Tutorial dearth
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 09:37:13 +0000
Hi Andrew,

> I like the idea of a OS3.5 tutorial, but I would wait a while before
> doing it, to allow the general community ( and me ;-) )to update to 3.5
> status. I'm sure there has been enough printed already to keep the
> current users going for a couple of months.

We've done this to death in recent issues, so no, we won't be doing one of
those for a while.

> Would it be possible for a blitz2 tutorial? Or perhaps a games making
> tutoral covering various techniques This could stem the flood of
> breakout clones!

No, because I already said I don't want to do another programming tutorial.

> Also I distinctly remember CU promising that you would do a C4D
> tutorial. Any chance of it now or just a general one in 3Ding.

I don't see how they could promise we'd do one, we certainly never agreed to
it. However, in this issue, we've got a complete beginners guide to 3D
basics, written by moi (and the bloody hardest bit of writing I've ever
done. Trying not to do more than four pages on 3D is like trying to drain
the Pacific ocean with a sieve) and a new tutorial on Imagine written by
afb member Andy Kinsella. The first one doesn't look too nice because it
has far too much copy for the two pages it's on, but it's certainly
fact-packed.

> Also the sleeve is better than the case (my CD rack has drastically
> overfilled), the binding makes no difference and please get rid of the
> floppies so we can have more info in the AFCD in the mag.

Can't get rid of the floppies yet, there are still more than 1000 people
that buy the floppy edition - a significant number now...

All the best,
-- 
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: (+44) 01225 442244
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: (+44) 01225 732275
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Want samples? Copyright free ones? http://www.futurenet.com/samplenet/





Message 46563

From :"Ben Vost" <ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: Tutorial dearth
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 09:41:54 +0000
Hi Sandy,

>> Two more tutorials came to an end in the issue we've just finished, so
>> I'm on the lookout for more to replace them. Any suggestions?

> Hows about a more in- depth Blitz tutorial, or one for PureBasic?

For the two trillionth time (I'll have no exaggeration on this list! This
list is for net folk!), no. I won't be commissioning any more programming
tutorials for a while.

All the best,
-- 
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: (+44) 01225 442244
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: (+44) 01225 732275
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
*Virgo*: /(Aug 23-Sept 22)/ Kris Kristofferson will appear to you in
a dream and tell you to cast off your earthly ways and follow him. At
least he /looked/ like Kris Kristofferson.





Message 46564

From :"Ben Vost" <ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: Hey Ben. I might have a stumper for you.
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 09:43:13 +0000
Hi Bill,

> While helping the owner of Centsible Software sort through his latest
> purchase, I came across the owners manual for an A300 (this is NOT a
> misprint, and it is not an A3k). Now, in looking through the manual, I
> was able to determine that this computer was brought out under a
> different name. Do you know what it is?

An A600.

All the best,
-- 
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: (+44) 01225 442244
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: (+44) 01225 732275
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Follow your dream! Unless it's the one where you're in Marks and
Spencer, naked, covered with ketchup.





Message 46565

From :"Ben Vost" <ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: Fillums (was: More A1200 Qs)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 09:45:38 +0000
Hi Alex,

> Oooh, get this fact-fans! A TV picture is run at 24 frames/sec whereas
> films are recorded at 25 fps (I think, they might be the other way around)
> so when they show a film on the telly they have to chop a few frames out
> here and there so what was a 180 minute film in the cinema ends up as a
> 179 minute film on TV (or something).

It's true but the other way around. Films are shown at 24fps, PAL TV is at
25fps and NTSC TV is 30fps. However, you can double those rates for TV
since those frames are actually made of two interlacing fields at 50Hz and
60Hz (times per second - a frequency Mash) respectively. I'm sure we'll get
a mail from Tim Siefert in about a week's time explaining all this very
succinctly.

All the best,
-- 
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Editor, Amiga Format                             F: (+44) 01225 732275
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Famed tautologist dies of suicide in distressing tragedy





Message 46566

From :"Ben Vost" <ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: Hey Ben. I might have a stumper for you.
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 09:59:34 +0000
Hi Kevin,

> On 24 Feb 2000 03:19:27 +0500, Bill Griffin (wd8izh@beanstalk.net) wrot=
e:
>> While helping the owner of Centsible Software sort through his latest
>> purchase, I came across the owners manual for an A300 (this is NOT a
>> misprint, and it is not an A3k). Now, in looking through the manual, I=

>> was able to determine that this computer was brought out under a
>> different name. Do you know what it is?

> IIRC it's .... the CD=B3=B2 !!

You obviously DRC... :)

All the best,
-- =

Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: (+44) 01225 442244
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: (+44) 01225 732275
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Amiga and DOpusWBR - a match made in computing heaven.





Message 46567

From :"Alexander Holland" <a1_nocrap_exh@hotmail.com>
Subject: [afb] The Publishers of "The One" Magazine
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 02:08:07 -0800
> > Anyone know who published "The One"?
> 
> Originally, it was Emap, but the new 'improved' version was by
> Maverick, AFAIK.

Hmm, Maverick. Never heard of them. Any resources on the web?

Alex
Webmaster of the Thalion Webshrine
http://thalion.amiga.tm




Message 46568

From :Matthew O'Neill <mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: AF136 Idea
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 21:58:18 +0100
On 23-Feb-00, Tudor Davies wrote:

>> A broken leg isn't a good excuse for not remembering previous posts ;)
>> 1) these are free
>> 2) these are legal

> Hang on Mash - are you talking out of your arse? Adam's comment was:
> "Why don't you put full commercial games on next months CD , games from
> 1988-1993/4 in DMS files"

He was talking about the free and legal ones which had the url printed in
that german magazine

> Can you point me towards all these games which are free and legal that
> were released during these years? And also show me which companies (such
> as Gremlin, etc) who have *legally* allowed this to happen.

Like I said, those from the german mag article. I'm just going on what he
and others have said about the authours giving them away freely

> Having a broken leg means I cannot put my foot in my mouth - as opposed to
> you.

Surely having it broken makes it easier to detach and do said action?

Mash - 
-- 
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.mashman.co.uk

Just *once* I'd like to meet an alien that wasn't immune to bullets!








Message 46569

From :Matthew O'Neill <mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: ami yellow pages
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 22:07:35 +0100
On 23-Feb-00, Andy Mills wrote:

>> No, and if I did then isn't there a good chance I'd have mearly glanced
>> over it because I~d have though its for the actual yellow pages?

> Possibly, just depends how much attention you pay to what's on the
> site...

Well after about a month most people tend to completely ignore all those
banners, like a blind spot on the screen

Mash - 
-- 
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.mashman.co.uk

ListerDOS 6.0: (E)at curry, (D)rink lager, (N)eglect to wash underpants.








Message 46570

From :Matthew O'Neill <mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: ami yellow pages
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 22:05:23 +0100
On 23-Feb-00, Mikey C wrote:

>> Grabs dictionary........ Oi! I'm trying to hep the site and all you
>> can do
>> is have a go at me, naff off!

> Helpful? Your tone of writting comes across to me as aggressive. 

aggressive!!????????????

"Quit blaming us, how about his lack of plugging? I'd never heard of his
site
until a couple of days ago, and Ive never seen a link to it on any other
amiga site, so maybe he is to blame. search engines dont give any results
either"

s'cuse me, but I fail to see any negativity in there at all. You said your
site had feeble hits and I said I'd never seen it advertised anywhere
before.

> It was on Excite, webcrawler, hotbot and several others. (I couldn't
> get Yahoo to put AYP on there despite repeated requests)

I never use any of those 3

Mash - not being aggressive. GRRRRRRR (throws chair across room)
-- 
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.mashman.co.uk

"A miracle would definitely be a step in the right direction."-Hawkeye








Message 46571

From :Matthew O'Neill <mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: Monitor Switch Box
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 22:20:38 +0100
On 23-Feb-00, Erol Ismael wrote:

> Does anyone know where I can get a Monitor switch box that will work on
> both a vga port and amiga RGB port?
> Must have four ports or more to cope with several computers.
> thanks

Dont worry, B('appy)MON ;)

Eyetech do every monitor switch known to man, and some that arent

Mash - 
-- 
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.mashman.co.uk

Oxymoron: Gay Bigot.








Message 46572

From :Matthew O'Neill <mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: Cd videos
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 22:09:05 +0100
On 23-Feb-00, Bippy M wrote:

>>> Hi again well I`am using wb3.5 but if it is the filesystem canI get
>>> that can open the Cds.

>> They're not dvds are they? they look identical...

> A normal Hi-Fi cannot read DVD discs.. so they can't be eh!!

Did he say he tried it in a hifi? I missed that bit :/ ....

Mash - 
-- 
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.mashman.co.uk

If this made sense, please see your Doctor.








Message 46573

From :Matthew O'Neill <mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: limit
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 22:16:46 +0100
Hi Neil

> I know that. But I was talking to Mash, so there was no need to let the
> facts get in the way of the point I was trying to make :)

:p

Mash - in the corner crying
-- 
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.mashman.co.uk

Democrats: The Liberal Hypocrite Party.








Message 46574

From :Matthew O'Neill <mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: network
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 22:30:38 +0100
On 23-Feb-00, Tudor Davies wrote:

> READ AMIGA FORMAT AND/OR AMIGACTIVE

I'm on this list for a reason... and I've never seen any such card, if there
was I'd buy it but I cant find any info on one which is why I'm asking
here.

> For God's sake - for someone so opinionated, you don't take much notice of
> what you read (if you do). I even started a thread about this a couple of
> months ago, asking for details from people that had been to the Koln show.

I didn't need one a couple of months ago... I'm not traking much notice of
ben's future flapjack thread just incase I decide to get one if I go to
bath, should I just in case??

Mash - 
-- 
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.mashman.co.uk

The Borg Cable Co: The subscriber's wishes are irrelevant!








Message 46575

From :Matthew O'Neill <mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: More miggy's (miggies?) and backup
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 22:26:38 +0100
On 23-Feb-00, Anthony Prime wrote:

>> I seem to notice the strangest things when I'm pissed. Chicargo's
>> club/pub in luton, monday night. 25 screens all displaying the chunky
>> hand with a blue floppy disk. ahhh, 'tis a sight to behold =) A600 with
>> scala by the way...

> Surely if it's a 600 it should be the puple screen with the disk anim?

Well it was the blue disk boot screen and I saw a 600 behind the dj, maybe
he was using that to control the lights or something and he had a 500 for
the screens? Or I was /VERY/ drunk

Mash - Pressing right A and r to reply to the mail this time. ..... stupid
soft reset
-- 
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.mashman.co.uk

THIS BOOK IS SO PROFOUND it bores me to death.








Message 46576

From :Matthew O'Neill <mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: PCMCIA network cards/CC_reset question.
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 22:34:32 +0100
On 23-Feb-00, Oliver Masters wrote:

> Hiya,

> Your thread didn't tell me what I wanted to know, mine did. Problem?

I asked precisely the same question....

Mash - 
-- 
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.mashman.co.uk

Be sure to use DEVICE=EXXON to screw up your environment.








Message 46577

From :Matthew O'Neill <mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: network
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 22:33:18 +0100
Hi Pieter

For the last time......

>     You need to find out what type of hub/switch you have. Common network
> equipment is either 10Mbit/s or 100Mbit/s. Some, but not all equipment has
> ports that are capable of working at 10 or 100.

It is a 100mbit hub.
It will be running at 100mbit
Each port cannot be different

>     Kato developments http://www.katodev.de/ were working on (the only?)
> 100Mbit/s card for Zorro, I don't know what the current status of this
> project is.

:/

I dont care what speed it reaches, as long as it negotiates a 100mbit link
with the hub, thats all I need

Mash - 
-- 
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.mashman.co.uk

As funny as...a maniac with a meat axe.








Message 46578

From :"Alexander Holland" <a1_nocrap_exh@hotmail.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: Who Published "The One"
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 02:13:01 -0800
> > Also anyone know who published "The One"?
> 
> EMAP, wasn't it? And then Rapide or someone when it was
"re-launched", but
> you probably don't want to think about that.

Ah, EMAP. Didnt they also publish CU Amiga?

If you are wondering why I am asking these questions. The new ISP of
the Thalion Webshrine has insisted that we get written permission to
use scans from magazines.

Later

Alexander Holland
Webmaster of the Thalion Webshrine
http://thalion.amiga.tm




Message 46579

From :John Bragg <JBragg@darlington.ac.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: Fusion
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 10:19:18 -0000
Morning All,

I have recently become a convert to Fusion and am using my old Shapeshifter
hardfiles with no problems. 

I simply moved my Shapeshifter hardfiles into the Fusion/Hardfiles dierctory
and then renamed them "MSHardFile0", MSHardFile1", MSHardFile2", etc. I then
set the paths within Shapeshifter to their new location and now I can use
Fusion and Shapeshifter with the same Hardfiles.

In my oppinion, Fusion is the better product; on my system it is faster and
more stable.

John F Bragg
Multimedia Production Assistant
Multimedia Centre
Darlington College of Technology




Message 46580

From :"Kevin Fairhurst" <redvers@redvers.u-net.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: A300
Date: 24 Feb 2000 10:17:38 +0000
On Thu, 24 Feb 2000 09:59:34 +0000, Ben Vost (ben=2Evost@futurenet=2Eco=2Eu=
k) wrote:
> Hi Kevin,

'lo

> > IIRC it's =2E=2E=2E=2E the CD=B3=B2 !!
>=20
> You obviously DRC=2E=2E=2E :)

Evidently so=2E  So what actually is the CD=B3=B2 in terms of A numbers, as=
 it
does have one=2E  I honestly thought it was the A300, so it looks like I'll
have to take mine apart =2E=2E=2E

BTW My CD=B3=B2=A0is currently in use by my sister as a CD player=2E  Well =
it would
be if she wasn't at university, anyway!   :-)

Kev

--=20
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM




Message 46581

From :Matthew O'Neill <mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: Tutorial dearth Vader
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 22:40:18 +0100
On 23-Feb-00, Ben Vost wrote:

> A "getting the most from Workbench" kind of thing is also on my list of
> possibles, but what would you guys (my very own focus group) want from it?

Free bananas.

Setting up common hacks and patches such as mcp, visual prefs, executive and
so on. Virtually everyone has them, it'd be nice to know what half of the
features do

Mash - 
-- 
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.mashman.co.uk

Okay Okay - right after this one we're BACK to the TOPIC!








Message 46582

From :"Ben Vost" <ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: Tutorial dearth Vader
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 10:47:41 +0000
Hi Matthew,

> Setting up common hacks and patches such as mcp, visual prefs, executive
> and so on. Virtually everyone has them, it'd be nice to know what half of
> the features do

Talking of which, it would be nice to update the tools part of the AFCD.
What do you all think should be in there?

All the best,
-- 
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: (+44) 01225 442244
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: (+44) 01225 732275
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Nuff respeck to all inna area!





Message 46583

From :"Ben Vost" <ben.vost@futurenet.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: Tutorial dearth
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 11:14:01 +0000
Hi Alex,

> TVPaint. This software has a very different interface and is a
> fantastic piece of software that is free. (although I think you need a
> graphics card to use it)

It does and it's no longer developed. I'd rather give first refusal to bits
of software that are still going, if you don't mind...

All the best,
-- 
Ben Vost (x2337)        /PGP key available/        T: (+44) 01225 442244
Editor, Amiga Format                             F: (+44) 01225 732275
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Excuse for the day: terrorist activities





Message 46584

From :Matthew Garrett <mjg59@cam.ac.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: CDTV hardware stuff
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 11:16:34 +0000
On Wed, Feb 23, 2000 at 11:58:52AM -0800, Erol Ismael wrote:
> matthew garrett <mjg5-@cam.ac.uk> wrote: 
> 
> > The 520 is a 68020, isn't it?
> 
> It is a 030 processor 

Power's site says that it's a 68020...

-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@cam.ac.uk



Message 46585

From :"Paul Laycock" <amipal@yahoo.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: Tutorial dearth Vader
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 03:23:33 -0800
Hi Matthew,

> Setting up common hacks and patches such as mcp, visual prefs,
executive and
> so on. Virtually everyone has them, it'd be nice to know what half of
the
> features do

It is true that many such patches aren't explained to well; they
usually have the "it does this" text in the docs, but explainations on
how you config the things are quite succinct.

VisualPrefs would be a great start, cos a). I have it installed, and
b). I want to know exactly what each options in the prefs does. Maybe
then we can increase the number of reader submissions on VisualPrefs
configs! ;)

Oh, and ReqAttack. That ones a right b*****d to setup right! How about
it, Ben?

Paul Laycock




Message 46586

From :Tudor Davies <tudor@high5.net>
Subject: [afb] Re: network
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 12:23:37 +0100
On Wed, Feb 23, 2000 at 10:33:18PM +0100, Matthew O'Neill wrote:

> I dont care what speed it reaches, as long as it negotiates a 100mbit link
> with the hub, thats all I need

That's what it does. The fact that it cannot populate the packets with
enough data is not a problem - it will run at 100mbps.

You still need a Zorro II setup though - get a Z4 for your A1200.

l8r
-- 

Tudor Davies                         Running Amiga, Mac, PC & Unices
                                     Technology in Perfect Harmony
Team Member of AmiBench
Web: http://www.AmiBench.org         Specialist in Internet Security & ISP
Email: tudor@high5.net               Support (RADIUS, Firewalls & Routing)
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Message 46587

From :"Paul Laycock" <amipal@yahoo.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: Tutorial dearth Vader
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 03:26:11 -0800
Hi Ben,

> Talking of which, it would be nice to update the tools part of the
AFCD.
> What do you all think should be in there?

The latest version of Songplayer? Currently it is at V1.53 (or
something), but everytime I check the CD, you've still got V1.3 on
there! Tut tut...

Paul Laycock




Message 46588

From :Matthew O'Neill <mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] cable
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 22:47:10 +0100
Hi Neil

> Cablemodem contracts generally forbid the running of servers.

How would they know? and surely you should be able to send and recieve
anythingyou liked?

Mash - 
-- 
Matthew O'Neill - MashMan
HTTP://www.mashman.co.uk

Clinton - looks like Carter, quacks like Carter.








Message 46589

From :Vaughn Atkinson <vaughn@manc.abelgratis.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: Workbench in QNX stylee...
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2000 14:58:26 +0100
Hi Paul

On 24-Feb-00, you wrote:

=3D> I've tried Birdie in 64 colours, and the results are pretty good. Lo=
oks
=3D> crap in 8 though! ;)

Yeah - I tried it last night! Given that the pattern I'm using is 256 col=
ours, I
had to do a fair bit of pen locking to get it looking right in 64. The gr=
aduated
fill doesn't look as smooth as it does in 256, but it still looks good, b=
ut more
like brushed aluminium. Which is cool in its own right ;o)

We would all love graphics cards, but they're so damn expensive! I will b=
e
getting one at some point, which is why I did the patterns in 256. I have=
 a
24bit version, but obviously can't test it yet!!

Vaughn=




Message 46590

From :Matthew Garrett <mjg59@cam.ac.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: Hey Ben. I might have a stumper for you.
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 11:32:20 +0000
On Thu, Feb 24, 2000 at 09:43:13AM +0000, Ben Vost wrote:
> Hi Bill,
> 
> > While helping the owner of Centsible Software sort through his latest
> > purchase, I came across the owners manual for an A300 (this is NOT a
> > misprint, and it is not an A3k). Now, in looking through the manual, I
> > was able to determine that this computer was brought out under a
> > different name. Do you know what it is?
> 
> An A600.

This question is made somewhat easier due to various bits of the A600
having "A300" printed on them...

-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59@cam.ac.uk



Message 46591

From :redvers@redvers.u-net.com
Subject: [afb] Re: A300
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 03:34:23 -0800
"kevin fairhurst" <redver-@redvers.u-net.com> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=3D48796
> On Thu, 24 Feb 2000 09:59:34 +0000, Ben Vost (ben.vost@futurenet.co.u
k) wrote:
> > Hi Kevin,
> 
> 'lo

Hello me, it's nice talking to myself ....

> > > IIRC it's .... the CD=B3=B2 !!
> > 
> > You obviously DRC... :)
> 
> Evidently so.  So what actually is the CD=B3=B2 in terms of A numbers, as
it
> does have one.  I honestly thought it was the A300, so it looks like
I'll
> have to take mine apart ...

I've just taken mine apart, and saw nothing on the motherboard that
implied
an A number.  So I spent ages getting it back together (that data cable
to
the CD mechanism is a complete ars^H^H^Hpain to get back in properly :)
and
it was only whenI was putting the last of the screws into the case that
I
saw it there, on the bottom of the machine, on a sticker, THE A
NUMBER!! 
Typical huh?

Anyway a CD=B3=B2=A0is an A100 ... I knew it was something like A300 anyway!

Kev





Message 46592

From :Tudor Davies <tudor@high5.net>
Subject: [afb] Re: cable
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 12:35:03 +0100
On Wed, Feb 23, 2000 at 10:47:10PM +0100, Matthew O'Neill wrote:

> > Cablemodem contracts generally forbid the running of servers.
> How would they know? and surely you should be able to send and recieve
> anythingyou liked?

They wouldn't know of course, unless they looked. Then again, getting the
SNMP information from a router asking how much data was requested *from*
port 80 is dead easy to find out an monitor, using something like MRTG and
the like.

Most providers filter out ports 80/8000/8080 to prevent HTTP and also
21/2121/69/6969 to prevent FTP (and TFTP). And the ports for IRCBOTs.

This is dead easy to do - takes about 10 seconds on a Cisco router that all
the connections go through.

Or it could be done via Squidproxy which can be run in transparent mode so
you don't even know it's there.

Then again, it all depends on the AUP that you sign up to. If they exclude
it and you do it, they can withdraw the service altogether.

l8r
-- 

Tudor Davies                         Running Amiga, Mac, PC & Unices
                                     Technology in Perfect Harmony
Team Member of AmiBench
Web: http://www.AmiBench.org         Specialist in Internet Security & ISP
Email: tudor@high5.net               Support (RADIUS, Firewalls & Routing)
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Message 46593

From :"Paul Laycock" <amipal@yahoo.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: Workbench in QNX stylee...
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 04:00:01 -0800
Hi Vaughn,

> => I've tried Birdie in 64 colours, and the results are pretty good.
Looks
> => crap in 8 though! ;)
> 
> Yeah - I tried it last night! Given that the pattern I'm using is 256 
> colours, I had to do a fair bit of pen locking to get it looking
right in 
> 64. The graduated fill doesn't look as smooth as it does in 256, but
it 
> still looks good, but more like brushed aluminium. Which is cool in
its own > right ;o)

Mmm, brushed aluminium... Is this VisualPrefs/Birdie/QNX thingy in the
same colours as Neutrino, and are the gadgets good? I haven't tried
making my own gadgets yet, so I don't know anything about it. Does
VisualPrefs scale them if the font size is different? And what about
screens with different palettes?

> We would all love graphics cards, but they're so damn expensive! I
will be
> getting one at some point, which is why I did the patterns in 256. I
have a
> 24bit version, but obviously can't test it yet!!

According to Ben, I only have to wait another two weeks until I can get
my hands on a long-awaited BVision, but I reckon it'll be another four.
:(

Paul Laycock




Message 46594

From :Alkis Tsapanidis <dial@otenet.gr>
Subject: [afb] STFax&USR Sportster Voice problem
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 14:49:24 +0300
Hi
   I've got a prob.When I record a msg and I try
to play it I get terrible noise.Something like a 
torn speaker.When I try to listen to it I through
another phone(using STFax as an auto answer 
machine)it plays back normaly.
I've got my Sportster Voice hooked up to a
Silversurfer
Cheers
-- 
Amiga RULEZ in Greece TOO!!




Message 46595

From :"David Plunkett" <david.plunkett@earthling.net>
Subject: [afb] Slow boot-up
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 04:57:09 -0800
Hello all.

I have an A1200 with a Blizzard 060 with SCSI board. It takes forever
to boot up.

I gather this is because it checks all for the presence of various SCSI
devices.
This is irritating as I only have a CDROM connected.

What makes it worse is that I have OS3.5, which causes a reboot as part
of setpatch AND
Fusion's rsrvmem thing, which also reboots the machine.

I guess that means my system checks three times for SCSI devices.

Is there any way of telling it not to bother for anything other than
the CDROM?

Love to know!

Regards

David




Message 46596

From :"David Plunkett" <david.plunkett@earthling.net>
Subject: [afb] Article suggestion for AF
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 05:02:53 -0800
I know Ben has dismissed the idea of more OS3.5 things for a while,
but....

I'd like something a bit more detailed on the new preferences editors. 
There's 
not much in the manual (that I've found anyway).

I'm especially interested in the CD prefs. There's a gadget in there
for boot
priority, which is permanently greyed out on my machine.  Booting from
a CD was 
one of the features touted in the early days of 3.5 discussions.

How does this work, if at all?

And is the second 3.5 update due soon?

Regards

David




Message 46597

From :"Paul Laycock" <amipal@yahoo.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: Slow boot-up
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 05:03:17 -0800
Hi David,

> What makes it worse is that I have OS3.5, which causes a reboot as
part
> of setpatch AND
> Fusion's rsrvmem thing, which also reboots the machine.

I know what you mean! My Amiga reboots *three times* before I can do
anything; SetPatch (OS3,5), Oxypatcher, and the PPC.library emulation
all have to reboot. Wouldn't it be nice if they could all load
themselves in, then reboot only once?

> Is there any way of telling it not to bother for anything other than
> the CDROM?

Check Aminet. I know theres something there for the standard IDE port,
but I don't know of anything SCSI-related. Good luck on your quest!

Paul Laycock




Message 46598

From :"Neil Bothwick" <neil@wire.net.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: cable
Date: 24 Feb 2000 13:11:0 +0000
Matthew O'Neill said, 

> Hi Neil

>> Cablemodem contracts generally forbid the running of servers.

> How would they know?

Checking for connects to ports 21 and 80 would be a start.

> and surely you should be able to send and recieve
> anythingyou liked?

You have a contract. That stipulates the service you receive and the
uses it may be put to. An "anything goes" policy would also permit spam.

How would you like it if your access slowed right down because someone
else on your segment of the network was running a server for MP3s?


Neil
-- 
Neil Bothwick - Connected via Wirenet
The UK's first Amiga-only internet access provider
http://www.wire.net.uk
-- 
Windows Error  #09: Mouse not found. Press mouse button to continue.




Message 46599

From :"Matt Sealey" <mws2@leicester.ac.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: Workbench in QNX stylee...
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 05:34:03 -0800
vaughn atkinson <vaugh-@manc.abelgratis.com> wrote: 
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/afb/?start=48610
> Hi All
> 
> I've just finished doing a QNX-style config for workbench, using
Visualprefs 
> and Birdie. It took a while, but its starting to look pretty good
(IMHO).
> 
> Am I the only one, or do other people think the simplicity of look of
the 
> QNX GUI is a breath of fresh air?

Which QNX GUI? If your desktop is the one on Aminet now, then that's
just a
mockup shot created in Photoshop. If you look at the latest Amigactive,
you'll
see what Photon looks like now: a bit bluier, more Mac-ish with it's
gadgets,
but the same with it's images (lovely colourdepth, with big black
borders)

Anyone want me to make a VP theme for the *new* Photon?

Neko




Message 46600

From :"Sealey, M." <mws2@leicester.ac.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: ShapeShifter woes!
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:40:02 -0000
Sorry to cut out the *entire* message (was getting a bit long),
but have you thought about trying to find System 7.5 on a CD,
or System 8 on a CD? It's easy to boot from them and install
your stuff.

On a lighter note, has anyone tried Fusion off the AFCD and
found that they can't use the CD emulation (Peripherals/CD-ROM)
with OS3.5 anymore? I could with the old Public Beta v43
scsi.device, but not with the newer OS3.5 one. What is Fusion
doing that makes it say that..

"scsi.device is not suitable for CDROM emulation"

.. or whatever it really says? Shapeshifter works fine, BTW,
but I bought Fusion way back when and I'd like to get it back
up and running..




Message 46601

From :"Sealey, M." <mws2@leicester.ac.uk>
Subject: [afb] I'm Baaack!
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:52:57 -0000
Well work has slowed down slightly, so I think I can afford to
mess around on AFB for a while (although not this afternoon
'cos I'm reconfiguring two Macintoshes)

Has anything odd been happening?

What do you all think of the QNX/Quake/Unreal thingy?

Is Matt O'Neill still being annoying like people tell me he
is (he should be banned :)? 

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester



Message 46602

From :"Kevin Fairhurst" <redvers@redvers.u-net.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: I'm Baaack!
Date: 24 Feb 2000 13:54:46 +0000
On Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:52:57 -0000, Sealey, M. (mws2@leicester.ac.uk) wrote:
> Well work has slowed down slightly, so I think I can afford to
> mess around on AFB for a while (although not this afternoon
> 'cos I'm reconfiguring two Macintoshes)

I've just got online with SurfUnlimited - yup, 24/7 access with my miggy -
so expect to hear even more from me, too!

> Has anything odd been happening?

Well my testicles were having a conversation last night on the merits of
Boyzone, until I realised they were talking bol.. whoops, family show!

> What do you all think of the QNX/Quake/Unreal thingy?

Looks good - so when are they porting it to run under WOS?  ;-)

> Is Matt O'Neill still being annoying like people tell me he
> is (he should be banned :)? 

Ummm, dunno ...

Kev

-- 
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM




Message 46603

From :"Samuel Byford" <sam@biffordyoungest.u-net.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: I'm Baaack!
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 06:03:52 -0800
> Well work has slowed down slightly, so I think I can afford to
> mess around on AFB for a while 

Run for the hills! They is a-comming!

Bifford the Youngest






Message 46604

From :"Sealey, M." <mws2@leicester.ac.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: I'm Baaack!
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 14:08:20 -0000
> > What do you all think of the QNX/Quake/Unreal thingy?
> 
> Looks good - so when are they porting it to run under WOS?  ;-)

I don't even find that remotely amusing.
 
> > Is Matt O'Neill still being annoying like people tell me he
> > is (he should be banned :)? 
> 
> Ummm, dunno ...

Oh. Okay then.

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester



Message 46605

From :Stephen T <steve001@ultramail.co.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: Fusion
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2000 20:43:19 +0000
Steven wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Am I the only person to be having loads of trouble with Fusion.
> Specifically, I cannot get it to use CGX drivers, since they don't
> seem to work under CGX4, and the patches on www.vgr.com cant be used,
> since they need Fusion V3.1 drivers to be patched, and the lowest I
> found was V3.2 and 3.3. The CGX4 driver (well supposed driver) on the
> AFCD doen't like CGXv4 at all. So I'm a biut stuffed.

Fusion doesn't seem to like any other program using a CGX screen
at the same time (including WB).  Try temporarily changing the
WB-Screen to a different driver (e.g. productivity) and launch
Fusion using a CGX mode.  ( I only have CGX3, so I don't know if
it will work with CGX4).


Regards,
Stephen.





Message 46606

From :"Kevin Fairhurst" <redvers@redvers.u-net.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: I'm Baaack!
Date: 24 Feb 2000 14:12:11 +0000
On Thu, 24 Feb 2000 14:08:20 -0000, Sealey, M. (mws2@leicester.ac.uk) wrote:
> > > What do you all think of the QNX/Quake/Unreal thingy?
> > 
> > Looks good - so when are they porting it to run under WOS?  ;-)
> 
> I don't even find that remotely amusing.

It wasn't meant to be amusing, it was meant to be sarcastic ...   :)

Kev
-- 
Kevin "Redvers" Fairhurst - ICQ 56332267, redver5 on AIM




Message 46607

From :Tudor Davies <tudor@high5.net>
Subject: [afb] Re: I'm Baaack!
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:25:35 +0100
Matt "MIA" Sealey wrote:

> Well work has slowed down slightly, so I think I can afford to
> mess around on AFB for a while (although not this afternoon
> 'cos I'm reconfiguring two Macintoshes)

Hey, hey - he's back. Hi Matt.

> Has anything odd been happening?

<PITY>I've broken my leg and am stuck at home</PITY>

> What do you all think of the QNX/Quake/Unreal thingy?

What's this then?

> Is Matt O'Neill still being annoying like people tell me he
> is (he should be banned :)? 

Yep - *and* about stuff he doesn't know about - it's great :)

l8r
-- 

Tudor Davies                         Running Amiga, Mac, PC & Unices
                                     Technology in Perfect Harmony
Team Member of AmiBench
Web: http://www.AmiBench.org         Specialist in Internet Security & ISP
Email: tudor@high5.net               Support (RADIUS, Firewalls & Routing)
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Message 46608

From :BloodStain@t-online.de (Sean FT)
Subject: [afb] Super Buster Rev.11
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:25:01 +0200
Hi Anyone,
         Does anybody know how much a Super Buster Rev.11 is worth these
days?.
I just found two in my odds and sods amiga boxes.      
                                      Cheers,
                                            Sean.




                             POWERED BY:      

A4000(T) 040 25+PPC233 144Mb CVPPC PreludeZII+Rombler* IOBlixZII
UltraPlex32X RicohMP6200SCDRW Nomai750.c Mustek1200SP Tiptel506 ISDN Modem
EpsonSC500 OS3.5 
Opus Magellan II etc

*=Still looking for a sound daughter board DB50XG from Yamaha to fit onto
it! (Any offers!)







Message 46609

From :Tudor Davies <tudor@high5.net>
Subject: [afb] Re: Super Buster Rev.11
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:28:37 +0100
On Thu, Feb 24, 2000 at 03:25:01PM +0200, Sean FT wrote:

>          Does anybody know how much a Super Buster Rev.11 is worth these
> days?.
> I just found two in my odds and sods amiga boxes.      

About 15.

You know where to advertise :)

l8r
-- 

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                                     Technology in Perfect Harmony
Team Member of AmiBench
Web: http://www.AmiBench.org         Specialist in Internet Security & ISP
Email: tudor@high5.net               Support (RADIUS, Firewalls & Routing)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------



Message 46610

From :BloodStain@t-online.de (Sean FT)
Subject: [afb] Ethernet Module for IoBlix(ZII)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:35:49 +0200
Hi Dudes,
        I've just go the new Amiga Plus here in Germany and as i opened it
to start reading,
there inside the front cover is a advert from RBM Digitaltechnik(IoBlix
etc).But wait a minute there up in the right hand corner is a new add on
for the IoBlix ZII,by golly its a
Ethernet Module.At last something to stick on the expansion ports on the
card.I wonder what they will do next?

http://www.rbm.de
 
                 Cheers,
                        Sean.




                             POWERED BY:      

A4000(T) 040 25+PPC233 144Mb CVPPC PreludeZII+Rombler* IOBlixZII
UltraPlex32X RicohMP6200SCDRW Nomai750.c Mustek1200SP Tiptel506 ISDN Modem
EpsonSC500 OS3.5 
Opus Magellan II etc

*=Still looking for a sound daughter board DB50XG from Yamaha to fit onto
it! (Any offers!)




It is better to have tried and failed than to have failed to try, but
the result's the same.
-- Mike Dennison





Message 46611

From :"Toffypops" <toffypops@hotmail.com>
Subject: [afb] AF134 and AF website...
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 06:55:18 -0800
Hmm....
The AF website still claims that AF133 is the current issue...
bad update speed?...

When was AF134 out?...I subscribe and have yet not gotten it...
I might tomorrow or monday....

Hmmm....gotta continue my subscription, tough that set me back a few
quid
that I already had saved up for the P5 G4ppc.....which now is going
into a
AmiJoe4000 G3 400Mhz....

But hell..I don't wanna miss an issue....

toffy out...




Message 46612

From :"Toffypops" <toffypops@hotmail.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: Tutorial dearth
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 06:56:37 -0800
REBOL!!!

Rebol Total Beginner to REbol Advanced....

I've been planning to say so for a while..


Toffy




Message 46613

From :"Daniel Thornton" <thewibble@cwcom.net>
Subject: [afb] Re: AF136 Idea
Date: 24 Feb 2000 13:57:52 +0000
On Wed, 23 Feb 2000 21:58:18 +0100, mash@myamiga.freeserve.co.uk wibbled...

> Like I said, those from the german mag article. I'm just going on what he
> and others have said about the authours giving them away freely

I don't think a lot of them are available for free distribution; Theme
PArk, for instance; that's under licence to Guildhall/Epic ATM.

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   exclusive Television Spoilers...and the usual old gubbins as well...
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Message 46614

From :"Daniel Thornton" <thewibble@cwcom.net>
Subject: [afb] Re: The Publishers of "The One" Magazine
Date: 24 Feb 2000 14:00:24 +0000
On Thu, 24 Feb 2000 02:08:07 -0800, a1_nocrap_exh@hotmail.com wibbled...

> Hmm, Maverick. Never heard of them. 

Consider yourself lucky. They were worse than Rapide, and that takes
some doing.

> Any resources on the web?

Highly doubtful; I'm not even sure they're still around.

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Message 46615

From :"Paul Laycock" <amipal@yahoo.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: Workbench in QNX stylee...
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 07:00:14 -0800
Hi Vaughn,

> > I've just finished doing a QNX-style config for workbench, using
> Visualprefs 
> > and Birdie. It took a while, but its starting to look pretty good
> (IMHO).
> > 
> > Am I the only one, or do other people think the simplicity of look
of
> the 
> > QNX GUI is a breath of fresh air?

> Anyone want me to make a VP theme for the *new* Photon?

Damn you people, you've got me working on a damn VisualPrefs config now
(well, I will be when I get home)!

The topic is - MacOS X

Paul Laycock




Message 46616

From :BloodStain@t-online.de (Sean FT)
Subject: [afb] 400MB oh dear?
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 16:02:58 +0200
Hi All,
      Well the Ce-Bit started today and as usual all roads and telephone
lines around Hannover were Gridlocked by 09:00Hrs this morning.Anyway
Windows 2000 was what all the radio presenters were talking about from the
show(can't understand why!)and the fact that it needs about 400MB harddisk
space to install it?.
What are Microsoft on Magic Mushrooms or what!"400MB" i know its for
business,use but that really takes the p*ss.Can no one at Microsoft write
software that is compact and well written,I take it they must have shares
in the Harddrive industry!.

   
                           Cheers,
                                 Sean.




                             POWERED BY:      

A4000(T) 040 25+PPC233 144Mb CVPPC PreludeZII+Rombler* IOBlixZII
UltraPlex32X RicohMP6200SCDRW Nomai750.c Mustek1200SP Tiptel506 ISDN Modem
EpsonSC500 OS3.5 
Opus Magellan II etc

*=Still looking for a sound daughter board DB50XG from Yamaha to fit onto
it! (Any offers!)




Reality is for people who lack imagination.





Message 46617

From :"Paolo Rinaldi" <amifam.rin@tiscalinet.it>
Subject: [afb] Re: Bill McEwen video conference...
Date: 24 Feb 2000 00:47:35 +0100
Before disappearing in the dark, Matthew O'Neill whispered:
> > 3) We have to find a way to pay for 3 128k ISDN lines for an hour (ouch)
> 
> Well at this point I would tell Andy that he could get a cheap cable modem
> and connect to NTL where he lives, but as he's been mature enough to KF me
> he'll never find out, unless someone else replies to this and my text is
> quoted again.

How mature this list is becoming...

Regards,
Paolo

... Dad always thought laughter was the best medicine, which I guess is why
    several of us died of tuberculosis.

-- 
Amiga 1200  040 + 603e 200 MHz, 24 Mb Fast, HD 13 GB, CD 24x, OS 3.5
Paolo Rinaldi                  amifam.rin@tiscalinet.it
                               lazybone@diff.org



Message 46618

From :"Steven Lloyd" <steven.lloyd@unn.ac.uk>
Subject: [afb] Can anyone help a prodical son
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 07:16:11 -0800
It's been a while and like the prodical son I return. University
demanded I used PC's, cross platform working became a pain in the rear
end so I forked out a few hundred quid and bought a peecee. Now the
thing is I dig out my miggy a trusty little 030/50 with 8mb of ram and
kickstart 3.0 stil, 500mb HD and found a multitude of programs that
don't work on it, requiring PPC processors and larger amounts of ram
some also needing kickstart 3.1 and optimised for wb3.5, and more HD
space (when did that happen?). flicking through a mag I found the
number of add ons has increased but the problem is I am not the richest
person in the land and I really trusted my miggy and basically need a
faster one and something that can emulate a PC at a reasonable speed.
Is there any companies that could tailor make a miggy with PPC for a
decent price? or is there any up for grabs. Ideally a graphics card
would be nice. I hear Eyetech are good, but well it's been a year since
I last purchased for miggy and I'm a little out of touch...

Can anyone help?

PS great to seesuch a loyal base still active, I've had to put up with
lots of comments about my miggy and I'll continue to defend her to the
bitter end...




Message 46619

From :"Daniel Thornton" <thewibble@cwcom.net>
Subject: [afb] Re: Tutorial dearth
Date: 24 Feb 2000 15:11:50 +0000
On Thu, 24 Feb 2000 06:56:37 -0800, toffypops@hotmail.com wibbled...

> Rebol Total Beginner to REbol Advanced....

NO. PROGRAMMING. TUTORIALS.

Can't anyone here read, or something?

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Message 46620

From :John Bragg <JBragg@darlington.ac.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: 400MB oh dear?
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:21:30 -0000
Windows 2000 is actually the replacement for Windows NT, and designed to be
run on servers. I have however seen an installation of Windows 2000 on a
laptop (don't ask - the culprit is a just a complete fool) and the windows
directory was in excess of 800 MB in size!!!

Madness!

John F Bragg
Multimedia Production Assistant
Multimedia Centre
Darlington College of Technology




Message 46621

From :"Steven Lloyd" <steven.lloyd@unn.ac.uk>
Subject: [afb] sorry to bother again.... but what's happening?
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 07:19:29 -0800
what's the latest info, gettin information on the amiga is very hard,
none of my newsagents have any amiga mags. Latest I knew was that MCC
was scraped for a PPC and that it'sgoing LINUX. At the same time I've
read news about Gateway selling Amiga to loyal ex-employees - (amino I
think). Basically can anyone direct me to a good source of information
except Amiga Format which  I really ought to subscribe to.




Message 46622

From :"Steven Lloyd" <steven.lloyd@unn.ac.uk>
Subject: [afb] music on the miggy?
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 07:24:40 -0800
I mainly use my computer for music, creating editing etc. I really
could do with new software and hardware. what kinda software/hardware
would anyone recommend for digital sound editing, sampling, loop's and
writing to CD's? Sorry for my niaveness




Message 46623

From :Pieter Smit <PSmit@darlington.ac.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: network
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:36:04 -0000
Matthew,
	wait a second, I'm only trying to help,
the last time you mentioned the <network device> you didn't know whether it
was a hub or a switch, this implied that you might not know its
specification. This is why I was talking in general terms and saying you
should check your particular equipment. This will determine what type of
network card you need. You hub is 100 only, then you need a 100M card. But:
-----Original Message-----
From: Tudor Davies
Sent: 24 February 2000 11:24
To: afb@egroups.com
Subject: [afb] Re: network


On Wed, Feb 23, 2000 at 10:33:18PM +0100, Matthew O'Neill wrote:

> I dont care what speed it reaches, as long as it negotiates a 100mbit link
> with the hub, thats all I need

That's what it does. The fact that it cannot populate the packets with
enough data is not a problem - it will run at 100mbps.

Agreed, calling it a 100M card doesn't mean it is capable of moving data to
its PCMCIA or Zorro interface at 100Mbit/s, only that the LAN port can
interface with another 100Mbit/s LAN port.

If it turns out that you can only get a 10M card for the 1200, there are
other possibilities.
Pieter.



Message 46624

From :"Samuel Byford" <sam@biffordyoungest.u-net.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: Can anyone help a prodical son
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 07:42:35 -0800
> It's been a while and like the prodical son I return. 

Welcome back into the breach, once more my friend.  (Ok, so thats not
exactly right, but you get the jist)

> University
> demanded I used PC's, cross platform working became a pain in the rear
> end so I forked out a few hundred quid and bought a peecee. Now the
> thing is I dig out my miggy a trusty little 030/50 with 8mb of ram and
> kickstart 3.0 stil, 500mb HD and found a multitude of programs that
> don't work on it, requiring PPC processors and larger amounts of ram
> some also needing kickstart 3.1 and optimised for wb3.5, and more HD
> space (when did that happen?).

What is you comp?  A 1200? or a bigbox?

Most stuff doesnt require that much harddisk space. you can pick up New
2Gb HD for around 80 pounds.  Second hand they should be even cheaper.

> flicking through a mag I found the
> number of add ons has increased but the problem is I am not the
richest
> person in the land and I really trusted my miggy 

Check out amibench at  http://www.amibench.org   where you can place a
wanted add or buy stuff for sale.

> and basically need a
> faster one and something that can emulate a PC at a reasonable speed.


Dont we all :)  (well, no actually. I want a faster miggy, but not a pc
emulation one)

> Is there any companies that could tailor make a miggy with PPC for a
> decent price? or is there any up for grabs. Ideally a graphics card
> would be nice. I hear Eyetech are good, but well it's been a year
since
> I last purchased for miggy and I'm a little out of touch...
> 

Get hold of AmigaFormat Or (dare I say it on afb?) AmigActice, both in
WHSmiths and such.  There are adverts in there for both sets of
hardware.


> Can anyone help?
> 

Hope that has.

> PS great to seesuch a loyal base still active, I've had to put up with
> lots of comments about my miggy and I'll continue to defend her to the
> bitter end...


Nice to see people are still coming back to it!

Bifford the Youngest.





Message 46625

From :Arran Smalley <arran.smalley@virgin.net>
Subject: [afb] Re: 400MB oh dear?
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:43:36 +0000

John Bragg wrote:
> 
> Windows 2000 is actually the replacement for Windows NT, and designed to be
> run on servers. I have however seen an installation of Windows 2000 on a
> laptop (don't ask - the culprit is a just a complete fool) and the windows
> directory was in excess of 800 MB in size!!!
> 
> Madness!
> 

*Fall out of my chair stunned* I thought that 250MB for Mac OS9 was excessive!

Arran



Message 46626

From : "Andy Mills" <andy@wharne.u-net.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: ShapeShifter woes!
Date: 24 Feb 2000 15:20:18 +0000
Hello Sealey, M., on 24-Feb-00 13:40:02 you said about:
  [afb] Re: ShapeShifter woes! 

>Sorry to cut out the *entire* message (was getting a bit long),
>but have you thought about trying to find System 7.5 on a CD,
>or System 8 on a CD? It's easy to boot from them and install
>your stuff.

[snip]

Sorry, I don't know about the scsi.device problem, I did take a quicl
look at the messages I have here from the fusion ML, but there's
nothing to do with this problem, IYSWIM... :(

I managed to get OS8.0 (new, in sealed box) from someone on
http://www.qxl.com for 20. Someone else here (hello Neil ;) managed to
pick it up at a computer fair for 5. The OS8.1 update can then be
downloaded from Apple.

I'm sure OS8.1 runs way nicer here than 7.5.x did...

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Message 46627

From : "Andy Mills" <andy@wharne.u-net.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: HTML question
Date: 24 Feb 2000 15:29:33 +0000
Hello Jani Mkitalo, on 23-Feb-00 00:29:28 you said about:
  [afb] Re: HTML question 

[snip]

>...because I have no Netscape Negotiator around for testing - and my
>brother insists on using IE only. :(

Well, if you have the latest AF, you can install Fusion/MacOS and use
Nutscrape under that...

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Message 46628

From : "Andy Mills" <andy@wharne.u-net.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: I'm Baaack!
Date: 24 Feb 2000 15:25:0 +0000
Hello Sealey, M., on 24-Feb-00 13:52:57 you said about:
  [afb] I'm Baaack! 

>Well work has slowed down slightly, so I think I can afford to
>mess around on AFB for a while (although not this afternoon
>'cos I'm reconfiguring two Macintoshes)

NooOOOOooOOOooooo!!!!

Here was me, thinking it was safe to return!!! ;)

>Has anything odd been happening?

Well...

>What do you all think of the QNX/Quake/Unreal thingy?

>Is Matt O'Neill still being annoying like people tell me he
>is (he should be banned :)? 

Ahem, beware of shrapnel and the odd un-exploded land-mine from the
latest flame war... ;-/

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Message 46629

From : "Andy Mills" <andy@wharne.u-net.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: HTML question
Date: 24 Feb 2000 15:36:17 +0000
Hello Christopher Ross-Gill, on 23-Feb-00 15:29:16 you said about:
  [afb] Re: HTML question 

[snip]

>> Yes, I do the same thing, but from previous posts I understood the gap
>> remains on NN even with border set to zero.

>Is this Mac Netscape?  I use Netscape Comm. 4.7 for Windows (95) and
>have used 4.6 and as long as I actually include BORDER="0", I find there
>is no gap, as is the case with every other browser I can get my hands
>on.

An example of where this manifests itself more than anything, is if you
have a `menu' consisting of a set of image buttons, one above the other.
If you want these to butt up against each other at the top and bottom,
you will more than likely have to WIDTH & HEIGHT in the TD tags to make
sure the cells don't leave a gap between the images.

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Message 46630

From :"Samuel Byford" <sam@biffordyoungest.u-net.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: sorry to bother again.... but what's happening?
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 07:51:36 -0800
> what's the latest info, gettin information on the amiga is very hard,
> none of my newsagents have any amiga mags. Latest I knew was that MCC
> was scraped for a PPC and that it'sgoing LINUX. At the same time I've
> read news about Gateway selling Amiga to loyal ex-employees - (amino I
> think). Basically can anyone direct me to a good source of information
> except Amiga Format which  I really ought to subscribe to.

Yup, Amino did a takeover jobbie from gateway who, once they got the
patents for certain "Digital Convergence" necasary items discarded the
Amiga.  Luckily Fleccy Moss and, and, and, Damnit. whats his name?  I
forget. (bill McEwin??) bought the Amiga from `em.

Your best bet to catch up is either http://www.amiga.com or one (or
both) of the best news sites out there for the Amiga:

http://www.realdreams.cz/amiga    (Czech Amiga News)  or
http://www.amiga.org              (Amiga.org)

On either of these click on the "check older news" links and have a
browse! :)

Hopes this helps somewhat.  No doubt someone will elaborate on my
skimpish details.

TTFN

Bifford the Youngest.





Message 46631

From :"Sealey, M." <mws2@leicester.ac.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: 400MB oh dear?
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 15:56:14 -0000
> show(can't understand why!)and the fact that it needs about 
> 400MB harddisk space to install it?. What are Microsoft on
> Magic Mushrooms or what!"400MB" i know its for business, use
> but that really takes the p*ss.

400Mb is madness compared to what, then? Name me another OS
on the PC that takes up less space that does the same amount
of stuff.

Besides, it's more like 600Mb when it's installed (400Mb in
filesizes alone, but when you put it on disk NTFS sucks up
a load of space for extended file attributes) and then
you have your 150Mb of swap space, the 200Mb of journalling
and backup filesystem data and redundancy and stuff.

This is an Amiga list anyway. And I could trounce you in any
discussion on Windows 2000 so you can stop now ;)

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester




Message 46632

From :"Sealey, M." <mws2@leicester.ac.uk>
Subject: [afb] Re: I'm Baaack!
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 16:00:02 -0000
> > What do you all think of the QNX/Quake/Unreal thingy?
> 
> What's this then?

I take it you don't read AmiGactive, or reside on one of
the Phoenix/QNX mailing lists? :)

QSSL have revealed that they have ports of Quake 3 Arena
and Unreal Tournament for Neutrino/Photon. No big deal,
you might say, but then they had these things ported and
running (yup!) before they were even released.

Good news for Deathmatch fans. Good news for people who
want some apps for a prospective Phoenix-y type platform.
Good news for people who like to whine at good news ;)
 
> > Is Matt O'Neill still being annoying like people tell me he
> > is (he should be banned :)? 
> 
> Yep - *and* about stuff he doesn't know about - it's great :)

Whee!

-- 
Matt Sealey mws2@le.ac.uk 
Distributed Systems Support
Computer Centre
University of Leicester



Message 46633

From :"Samuel Byford" <sam@biffordyoungest.u-net.com>
Subject: [afb] Nightlong
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 08:17:55 -0800
hm, Ive just beento my Clickboom Portal site and they have a (big)
video clip of Nightlong in its beta state.  Its a recording done with a
video camera of the monitor so the quality isnt that crash hot, but it
shows the interaction available (mouse pointer flying around to objects
etc) such as the actuall trailer doesnt.

its an avi file, but it`ll take a fair while to download as its quite a
large file.

So, you want a look, you know where to go :)

http://www.clickboom.com/portal/

TTFN

Bifford the Youngest.




Message 46634

From :John Bragg <JBragg@darlington.ac.uk>
Subject: [afb] Mystery Monitor
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 16:52:18 -0000
My brother-in-law Anthony (another keen Amiga enthusiast and collector) has
recently acquired a Commodore 1081 monitor to add to his collection. This
particular model is not one which is familiar to us and he would be grateful
for any information anyone could supply regarding age, specifications etc.

Thanks,

John F Bragg
Multimedia Production Assistant
Multimedia Centre
Darlington College of Technology




Message 46635

From :Phil Edwards <phil@edwards98.u-net.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: plugs
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 16:51:53 +0100
Hi Mark,

> I dont know, but what I do know is that half the people who actually use
> amiga's dont know about AmiBench, The US is a great example, hardly anyone
> from the states uses amibench, even though its a world wide resource.

Make it compulsory for any channel owner on ARCNet to have a link to
AmiBench on their websites ;) 
I suppose HAL and the eggs could be updated to have http://www.amibench.org/
in the top line of any help/showcommands as well.... ;)

Regards
-- 
Phil Edwards
IRC: Tipsy on uk2.arcnet.vapor.com:6667 #Gas
WWW: http://www.edwards98.u-net.com/




Message 46636

From :Phil Edwards <phil@edwards98.u-net.com>
Subject: [afb] Re: Banging the keys
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2000 16:31:39 +0100
Hi Ben,

> since when did that stop you from trying to bendh the
> stick just that bit harder to help you get round a bend, or to avoid the
> bad guys?

You try flying a Nuclear Missile in Frontier with 65G main thruster
acceleration, when you've got about 60 police vipers after you! ;)

I admit it annoys me when my sister hammers the keys on Pinball Dreams/
/though.

Regards
-- 
Phil Edwards
IRC: Tipsy on uk2.arcnet.vapor.com:6667 #Gas
WWW: http://www.edwards98.u-net.com/