Hi there Cliff and Matt, On my standard test of E/D on downloading the latest patch for both q4 and q5 (i.e. attempting to install Nisus to see how things are coming along), instead of a trap message appearing, then being able to 'restart' (?) E/D, E/D just hangs, and I have to kill it from the Warp Desktop. 1.99q itself was putting up a trap message, and was restartable. I hope this info's useful! Cheers, Alex.