Pat's right, vorlon mirrored at midnight as always...what Cliff was having trouble with was forcing an immediate mirror. I had an unresolved permissions problem but that's fixed now. Sorry to take so long to reply, I was on vacation. Won't happen again, I promise. :-) --Jered P.S. And as an added special bonus I updated http://vorlon.mit.edu/ardi /getexec.html to have links to the latest releases!