In September 1995, CNI News editor Michael Lindemann was contacted by Robert M. Collins, a man known to have military and intelligence-agency connections, who wanted to post on this web site a number of illustrations and background text regarding what purports to be an alien body of the kind retrieved near Roswell, New Mexico in 1947.
Are These Images of the "Real" Roswell Alien?
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CNI News continues to investigate the sources and legitimacy of these images and information. Meanwhile, this page is posted without any claims on our part, and may be modified as new information is acquired. The following text is essentially as provided by Mr. Collins.
The graphic images came from a series of approximately 20. These illustrations and/or graphics of an "alien" autopsy where originally broadcast in October 1988 on a 2 hour show called "UFO Coverup - Live" by Seligman Productions. After seven+ years of checking on the authenticity of these illustrations, here is what has been found: The "Foreign Technology Division/Wright Patterson 'Alien' Graphics"
- The reader I believe will note the symbol in the upper left hand corner of one image as "FTD-WP." This means the "Foreign Technology Division, Wright Patterson Air Force Base." Since it is a scan of the original it may be difficult to read. Note: FTD is now NAIC or the National Air Intelligence Center.
- It can also be noted in the same image the serial number in the upper right hand corner. A large part of it is missing due to the image transfer process.
- Other information gathered from the remaining graphics is as follows:
- A. Date of illustrations: 10/01-66 [presumably Oct 1, 1966].
- B. Symbols "FTD-SYD;" where SYD is the three letter office symbol that was responsible for graphics. This office was reported to be under the Directorate of Systems as the Space Systems Division within FTD. Note: Back in 1966 the Directorate of Systems was called the "Technology and Sub Systems Directorate."
- C. Exact height: 3' 4" to 3' 8."
- D. There appears to be a letter group of NIRE/SIRHC in the upper right corner on some of the graphics.
Discussion: The graphics were supplied by a man named Curtis Brubaker to Seligman Productions in 10/88 for a show called ["UFO Coverup - Live"]. Brubaker made the claim that he placed the logos on the graphics. But, when Brubaker was asked the question as to why practically nobody saw them he had no answer. Brubaker later said that he received them from a source at Wright-Patterson AFB. Checking with two other sources, they both said that the "Alien" shown in the graphics was of the type kept at WPAFB up until 1982-83, at which point they were moved to "other locations" because of the publicity. This type "Alien" is also the same type that was recovered at both Roswell and the "Plains of San Agustin" in July of 1947. The one depicted in the Santilli film does not match anything described here and may very well be human. The reader must be aware that there was an extensive effort to try and trace the serial numbers on the graphics but that effort failed. Most readers are aware that the GAO, in the fall of 1995, finished its report on Roswell looking at both classified and unclassified documents. And the GAO couldn't prove anything except to say there existed missing documents. If the reader can understand that, then proving anything in this area is extremely tough.
[Further note from Collins concerning nature and legitimacy of the images]:
The graphics are a mixture of what appears to a model in some cases and artist illustrations in others. Most of them have serial numbers on them and the FTD etc logo. These graphics have been very carefully checked over seven years. The information ie "Anatomy" has been confirmed by a number of intelligence sources who, as you would expect, don't want to be named but are in a "need to know" basis at a high level: That's all that can be said: I [anonymous source] want to gauge the feedback if they are posted to see if it is worth the effort to proceed further.
[Further note from Collins answering inquiry about timing and urgency of disclosure]:
The urgency is in the timing and the time is now. High level "intell" sources don't want to see congressional [action] on this and are really jumpy about GAO report. Santilli film is a good smoke screen whether the body is real or not.
[REF: Graphic showing mandible; mandible superimposed on head]Collins reported information on an "alien mandible" from an interview with an ex-VA (Veterans Administration) dental specialist in Dayton, OH, conducted in February 1995 by news reporter Carl Day of television station WDTN-Channel 2. CNI News subsequently interviewed both Carl Day and the VA dental technician, identified as John Mosgrove, who provided the following information:
Air Force personnel visited VA hospital in Dayton during last week of October 1979, bringing with them a dental impression of an unusual mandible. On request, dental technician John Mosgrove made a "quick-set" casting from the mandible for the Air Force officer, then observed the officer crush the original impression and throw it into a waste basket. Before leaving with the casting, the officer told Mosgrove that there would be no paperwork on this assignment and that he was to forget everything he had seen.
Mosgrove recovered the fragments of the crushed impression and reconstructed them over a period of days, then made several castings. One casting remains in his possession. Another was given to news reporter Carl Day. A third is in an unnamed safe location. Based on his study of the "mandible" and inquiries to several other specialists, Mosgrove speculates:
- Age of person or "being:" late twenties to early thirties
- Age of mandible: goes back 40 to 45+ years
- Mandible underwent traumatic impact; i.e. tooth knocked out
- Mandible not human or [known] animal
- Person or "being" not a meat eater; teeth completely flat
Collins: Graphic picture shows mandible overlayed on "alien" face. As the reader will note, it's a close fit.
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