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Subject:      Re: can't see KDE (response: foetal mini-HOWTO for KDE on Hurricane)
From:         charlie@antipope.antipope.org (Charlie Stross)
Date:         1998/01/06
Message-ID:   <19980105214212.02519@antipope.org>
Newsgroups:   apana.lists.os.linux.redhat
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Clif Smith wrote:
>  I recently installed Red Hat 5.0, from cdrom. I'm a sorta' newbie to Linux
> and Red Hat. I just grabbed the KDE beta2 files (and qt 1.3*) and installed
> from glint in X-windows. 
>  Install seemed to go okay but I don't see KDE anywhere in the pop-up
> window like Afterstep or fvwm is. So I need some direction in what to do
> next. 
>  I have the same problem with TkDesk except I see it listed in the window
> but can't get it to open.


The KDE Beta-2 RPMs install the KDE kit in /opt/kde. _Everything_ goes
there -- the install scripts don't mess with your X startup files, so it
doesn't show up in the menus you get from AnotherLevel.

There are at least four ways to run KDE Beta-2 on RedHat 5. Here's what
I've discovered so far. These instructions (a) are based on personal
exploration and may not be canonical, and (b) assume you are running
bash as your login shell:


1) Manual startup -- X not running 

   First, set the environment variable KDEBASE to /opt/kde. You can do
   this by adding the following line to your .profile file, or to 
   /etc/profile:

       export KDEBASE=/opt/kde

   Next, amend your PATH variable to add /opt/kde/bin:

       export PATH=$PATH:/opt/kde/bin

   (or edit it into PATH in /etc/profile)

   To launch KDE from a login shell (if X is not running):

       /opt/kde/bin/kdestart

   -- this fires up an X session and launches the basic KDE programs.

2) Startup via the startx script:

   Set up the KDEBASE and PATH variables (as above).

   Copy /opt/kde/bin/kdestart to your home directory and rename it
   .xinitrc.

   Optionally, put the KDEBASE and PATH declarations in your new .xinitrc.

   To launch KDE from a login shell (X not running):

       startx

   -- note that this .xinitrc will replace all the AnotherLevel and
   TheNextLevel stuff.

3) Login via KDM (the KDE alternative to XDM):

   Edit (as root) /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0

   Comment out everything in this file below (but not including!) the 
   first line, then append the following line:

       /opt/kde/bin/kdmdesktop

   Edit (as root) /etc/inittab.

   Look for the line: 

       x:5:respawn:/usr/X11/bin/xdm -nodaemon

   Replace it with:

       x:5:respawn:/opt/kde/bin/kdm -nodaemon

   This tells init(8) to respawn KDM, the KDE display manager, when
   the system is in run level 5. 

   To start KDM, either run (as root) /sbin/telinit 5 (to switch to
   run level 5), or (this is risky! don't do it until you _know_ you
   want the system to boot into this every time!) edit /etc/inittab
   and change the line:

       id:3:initdefault:

   to

       id:5:initdefault:

   If you do the latter step, then every time your system boots successfully
   it will go into run level 5 and run KDM, presenting you with the 
   exceedingly cute KDE login screen. 

   To edit the settings for KDM, as root edit the 
   file /opt/kde/share/config/kdmrc. This lets you twiddle with things
   like the welcome message, background wallpaper, and users to allow
   login via KDM.

4) Integrate KDE with AnotherLevel, so that users can switch between KDE
   and other window managers transparently.

   *** Someone else will need to do this -- the documentation is a little
       obscure ;-) ***



-- Charlie Stross
   
"The reason MS needs to advertise is that, left to their own devices,
most companies wouldn't buy their products."
                                  -- ajackson@freenet.columbus.oh.us 


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