From: | Matt Sealey |
Date: | 22 Jun 2001 at 16:14:00 |
Subject: | Re: Whinge,whinge!!!! |
Hello Alan
On 22-Jun-01, you wrote:
>> You SHOULD care.
>
> why? I use Miami. never installed Genesis. If we were living in a UNIX
> environment then all parts of the OS would have seperate licences so you
> pay for what part you want...in this case I would have saved ~10 quid by
> not wanting Genesis or the media-playback tools (which, compared to the
> 3rd-party stuff i have installed, suck)
It's the principle of the thing.
>> They redistributed the files with another commercial product - strictly
>> against the license agreement that comes with it - without permission
>> (lets not even go into a license) from the original authors.
>
> if i recall some of the minor details, H&P were given the code for some
> small sum. the *original* authors who then realised how much their
> project was finally worth kicked up a stink. perhaps they shouldnt have
> offloaded their work so soon/cheaply?
You recall wrongly. H&P were sold the rights to distribute NetConnect and
Genesis - essentially two GUI applications which generated files for
configuring AmiTCP/IP 4.x.
As part of this deal, it seems Chris Wiles gave them the source code that
he had to AmiTCP/IP 4.x - source code which he had no rights to sell as
part of any deal.
That's a moot point since they didn't use any of the source, but they DID
redistribute the files from NetConnect (badly, they missed out some vital
components for the MUI app they actually shipped)
In any other market this would have been a huge lawsuit. It so happens
that Tomi Olila (or whatever the hell his name is, I can't spell it anymore
than anyone but I can remember how to spell Tyschtschenko :P) doesn't
have the money or time for it.
Essentially H&P got their way because they are bigger and smarmier.
That's not a very nice way for things to go.
>> I could argue the same about AmigaOS 3.5+'s icon format - something
>> which was closed from the beginning and which effectively killed
>> the development of Directory Opus for the Amiga. Why isn't THAT
>> downloadable as source or specifications?
>
> such specifications SHOULD be open, i agree. i never said they shouldnt
> be. in fact ALL the OS should be openly documented etc (the only thing not
> needed to be released is the AmigaOS sourcecode.
Why not?
>> it like it never happened. You're all so willing to forget stuff if it
>> suits your goals..
>
> i think the same applies for you here ;-)
I think where I forget tiny abborations of certain people, you seem to
forget the BIG things, that would actually matter. And then, oddly
enough, apply the reverse to something else like the Microsoft
anti-trust trial where you have a totally different opinion which can
and does conflict.
Thanks
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