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From:Gary Peake
Date:6 Jun 2001 at 19:22:58
Subject:Re: cost of amigaone ?

On Wed, 06 Jun 2001 10:09:47 -0000, emptystate@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

>
>> >Until we actually see one powered up and running something Amiga-ish
>> >it'll stay in the realms of Boxer-ology. (How many times have we
>> >seen that motherboard at shows and in magazines ?)
>>
>> Since Alan announced it? He has been at all the shows since the first board
>> was put together. But, unlike other projects in the Amiga world, the
>> AmigaOne hasn't been "on the drawing board" for 5 years.
>
>My point was: AFAIK no member of the public has seen a Boxer running,
>no member of the public has seen an AmigaOne running.

And no one (except in demo's at our shows) has seen Amiga content on
Zaurus's. But I can tell you it IS.

My point was, after a given amount of time, *I* give up and say "probably
won't be happening". Since the AmigaOne was just announced and is fairly
close to schedule, I am not at that point with it.

We need to look at some things when making speculation:

1. Track record
2. Financial viability
3. Time to market

>> >I wouldn't hold my breath either because even when it is available,
>> >how much software will actually work on it ? Probably a lot less
>> >than on my PPC card.
>>
>> Hopefully our third party developer group will remedy that issue
>> before it becomes one, IF they see people willing to buy the
>> AmigaOne instead of slagging it off.
>
>Like any other Amigan I will be most joyous when the AmigaOne becomes
>a reality. However, there seemed to be a lot more 3rd party developers
>at the time of the launch of Phase 5's "PowerUP" PPC boards but we
>still haven't seen fully PPC versions of important stuff like
>Wordworth, Pagestream, PPaint (well not those products exactly but
>you get my point).

And what was Gateway doing at that time? First Joe Torre announces that PPC
is the new way for Amiga. Then Schindler announces PPC is NOT a viable
solution for the Amiga. Then Petro announces that he is pushing PPC anyway.

The result was that PPC never quite happened. We have announced it, are
coding for it, have hardware coming for it, are talking to developers about
coding for it. BIG difference between then and now.

>I'll try to remain optimistic, but seeing is believing.

I agree. If we miss timelines, be upset with us.

>> >More support is planned when OS 4.2 comes out (what is 4.1 ?)
>> >but seeing as no one is actually working on OS 4.2 yet we will
>> >have to guess our own timelines. (Or is AI going to start giving us
>> >regular Executive Updates again ?)
>>
>> How do you know what is or isn't being worked on?
>
>Who knows ?
>Where is AI telling us in an official capacity ?
>All we're getting is snippets of info via mailing lists.
>If AI doesn't want to say, then fair enough but who can blame
>a culture of rumour existing ?

No blame to assess. That is why we are on various mailing lists.

NO company in high tech posts their full plans for all to see. That is
rather foolish in the current climate in the industry. If we do that,
tomorrow there will be 30 bigger companies trying to block us out.

Better to announce a little at a time and make sure we hold to those
announcements than to give out a 5 year plan, miss some deadlines and have
the vultures trying to pick our bones.

>> Please tell us your inside source for this information. You are
>> posting facts right? :)
>>
>> >hmmmmmmmmmmm...
>>
>> That is what I say every time I see a post from someone anonymous
>> who claims to have inside information. :)
>
>I've never claimed to have inside information.
>In the above comments I was speculating, just like 2/3 of the posts in
>this list.

And speculation fuels rumours which become "facts that I saw on the
AmigActive list" in less than two days.



Gary Peake
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