From: | Matt Sealey |
Date: | 21 Jun 2001 at 11:28:56 |
Subject: | Re: Whinge,whinge!!!! |
Hello Alan
On 21-Jun-01, you wrote:
> solution providers just didnt wash.....after all, when you talk with H&P
> they do act/behave/discuss in a very professional manner.
That hasn't been my personal experience, they've been nothing but
deeply unprofessional (dare I say German?) about everything. Even
when I won ArtEffect (which is a bag of shite) they tried to say I
didn't and went around the houses.
>> Consider that if we'd have stayed with PowerUP, MorphOS or something like
>> it would have been with us as the phase5 G4 cards arrived (not long after
>> OS3.5)
>
> no, Phase5 sales were little affected by the PUP/WUP war - after all,
> which ever solution you chose did not affect the actual hardware you
> bought! Sales were hit by Amiga, at the time, saying we'd all be running
> Alpha CPUs in the new Amiga. Sales plummetted.
Why did Amiga choose another CPU? Because PPC was too contended
already. If you pick PPC, you end up having to resolve the "war". If
you pick another CPU, the war dies off without effort. Truth.
The "war" did directly affect the longevity of phase5, and did play a
large part in the decisions made to drop support for a processor by
the parent company.
I think you're getting your history muddled anyway: Amiga did no
such thing as to "choose another CPU". They simply said (and I have
the Amiga Format with a letter from Petro in it) that they are not
officially supporting the PowerPC as the future Amiga processor
anymore.
> price. At that point Phase5 were in trouble...noone wanted their Mac
> accelerators and they didnt get enough cash-flow from Amiga purchases.
Because no-one was buying them ;)
>> I'd still like to have someone point out what is so good about WarpUP
>> compared to PowerUP, apart from the undying support of Hyperion and
>> a few Aminet applications..
>
> ah! you dont use it, so you dont know.
I have used it, I know people who do use it.
You could say that you don't use PowerUP, so how would you know if it
was less stable?
> more stability but it does have more apps AND the binaries auto-run. ie
> you dont need hacks to the exec kernel to get WarpUP stuff to run. The
> programs also tend to be smaller (in physical size and memory usage).
Alan Buxey, you are in fact a complete moron. Are you suggesting to me
that WarpUP does *not* install a LoadSeg() patch to load the new AHF
binaries? Because if it doesn't, I fail to see how it'd work. As for "exec
hacks" - what's the difference between looking and then parsing an .elf
file (which WarpUP also supports), or skimming through some hunks
for the right ones?
There is no difference. There is, in fact, no "hack". You believe way too
much hype for your own good.
(Ask yourself how much of Exec WarpUP actually replaces with custom
code. I dare say it's no less than PowerUP does)
> it seems that almost all PowerUP stuff is now only developed as MorphOS
> (guess its very simple to recompile over) and this I do mind as MorphOS
> and AmigaOS CANNOT run at the same time....so i have to run MorphOS..which
> kills my 060 (and a 240MHz 603e does not run 68k apps under emulation as
> fast as the 50MHz 060...not by a very very long shot)
As more and more of the OS is replaced by PPC modules, you won't need
the 68k emulation to be so fast (and it is, by all accounts, pretty much
nearing 68060 speeds right now, although you don't see any of it in the
public release). A 240MHz 603e can run many things many times faster
than a 68060 - and MorphOS supports running WarpUP stuff too with
the same "hacks" that you say PowerUP uses to run on your system.
Thanks
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