From: | Matt Sealey |
Date: | 22 Jun 2001 at 13:53:27 |
Subject: | Re: Whinge,whinge!!!! |
Hello Alan
On 22-Jun-01, you wrote:
> hi,
>
>>> that'll be 4.0 - as 4.2 is quite some way off yet ;-)
>>
>> No, it'd be 4.2 - because 4.0 is the OS that doesn't even scratch
>> the amount of work done on MorphOS (i.e. looking at that
>> article in Amigactive, you can check off the components in
>> MorphOS against the ones in 4.0 - 4.0 comes off worse for
>> wear in most regards)
>
> you seem to be confused my dear. 4.0 is around, 4.2 is not - i wasnt even
> commenting on its featureset - just your remark asking whether he had
> a 4.2 system to hand.
Alan, Alan, Alan. What are you talking about?
4.0 is *not* around. You were questioning (nay, correcting!) my
use of 4.2 - because I consider 4.2 to be the OS I would take to
be a legitimate work, more than a stop-gap between one stage
and another that we also would have to pay for.
I explained what I meant.
And now you're correcting me AGAIN?
ALAN. LISTEN. I'M GOING TO TYPE IN CAPITALS SO THAT YOU
WILL TAKE NOTICE THIS TIME.
IF HE HAS AN A1200, AMIGAONE, AMIGAOS 4.2, MATROX G450
WITH DRIVERS, EMU10K BASED SOUNDCARD WITH FULL DRIVER
SUPPORT, AND A WEALTH OF APPLICATIONS, I WILL CONCEDE
THAT AMIGA HAVE "PRODUCED" SOMETHING WORTHY OF
GIVING THEM PRAISE FOR SUCH. NOT UNTIL.
NOW, DO YOU WANT TO SAY "I THINK YOU MEAN OS4.0 THERE"
AT ME AGAIN? OR SHALL I EXPLAIN IT TO YOU AGAIN?
I do not consider OS4.0 to be anything more than a rebundle of
OS3.9 with a PPC kernel attached, PPC filesystem, and quite
possibly a new TCP/IP stack. That does not constitute any kind
of new OS - I would expect more, in that if they really wanted
this operating system, they should have been working on it from
Day 1 - late December 1999 - rather than picking some fantastic
new idea, then changing focus and splitting their work down
the middle.
>> How many people here think the AmiTCP/Genesis/OS3.9 thing
>> was actually resolved? Hands up..
>
> hands up those who care?
You SHOULD care.
> after all, AmiTCP source code should be downloadable from somewhere,
> therefore noone should HAVE to pay for it
H&P didn't pay for it, that's what's so bad: it's a commercial product,
based on BSD licensed code which specifically allows it to be as such.
They redistributed the files with another commercial product - strictly
against the license agreement that comes with it - without permission
(lets not even go into a license) from the original authors.
Why should it be downloadable from somewhere? So that you can
absolve Amiga of any wrong-doing?
I could argue the same about AmigaOS 3.5+'s icon format - something
which was closed from the beginning and which effectively killed
the development of Directory Opus for the Amiga. Why isn't THAT
downloadable as source or specifications?
I don't see how people can still think that somehow H&P didn't do
something absolutely disgusting there.. and are now glossing over
it like it never happened. You're all so willing to forget stuff if it
suits your goals..
Thanks
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