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anonymizer (sorry to post this here)
Sunday, 04-Apr-99 06:15:13
i can't seem to start a new threat, but can post in reponse to existing ones...so this is the most appropriate one...
somewhere, lost, i can't find it, somebody posted a suspicion to the anonymizer service/motivation. The allegaiton was that anonymizer is really an evil sting operation set up to gather intel about us...
i have done some stalking of lance cottrell. I have always admired him, but felt i should do some real work on it in response to this post (now missing). Unfortunately i came to no provable conclusion either way...i think the only way would be to ask him in person "what are your motivations" and see if he flinches.
below are my raw data, disorganized, but what the hell. i want to share this data with you all before i chime in with my own thoughts...so as not to seed mine into yours...
eagerly awaiting a reply, and hoping this intersest of mine will not get me into trouble!
-CG
*****begin lc stalk*****
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personal info
email 1: loki@infonex.com
email 2: loki@obscura.com
email 3: lcottrell@Infonex.com
email 4: lcottrell@obscura.com
web 1: www.obscura.com
web 2: http://www.infonex.com/~loki/
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dejanews results on: Lance Cottrell
http://www.dejanews.com/[ST_rn=ps]/dnquery.xp?ST=PS&QRY=%22Lance+Cottrell%22&defaultOp=AND&DBS=1&format=terse&showsort=date&maxhits=25&LNG=ALL&subjects=&groups=&authors=&fromdate=&todate=
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various messeges:
list.cypherpunks: WANTED: Tolerant, anonymity-friendly news admins
"I would be happy to provide access to news.cyberpass.net (its good to be
the King). Just let me know the machine name and IP." -LC
rec.martial-arts:
98/10/14 "I suggest practicing the way you will test. Ask someone to do the form next to you wile you practice. Once you get used to doing the form with distractions, you will have no problems doing it during the test. I remember back in grade school I had a teacher to gave daily math quizzes. She would walk around the room during the test, signing, banging on tables, anything she could think of to distract us. Since then there is nothing that can distract me during a test." -LC
98/10/11: "I can speek to the use of animal forms in Choy Li Fut. CLF is not strongly focused on animals, but we catagorize certain moves as belonging to certain animals (tiger claw, leopard fist, snake style pokes, etc.). Some of the more advanced forms, which I have not gotten to, are animal based. Looking at the list of forms in the back of "Choy Li Fut Kung-Fu" by Grandmaster Doc Fai Wong, I see forms for the follwoing animals: Tiger, Bear, Snake, Crane, Leopard, Dragon, Monkey, Lion, Elephant There is also a "Five Animals Hand Form" and a "Ten Animals Hand Form". I don't know what all 10 animals are." -LC
98/07/08: "In our Choy Li Fut school we have a solution to this. We eventually have to learn the mirror image of all forms (CLF forms and Tai Chi)."
98/12/10: "I suggest taking a look at White Dragon Choy Li Fut Kung Fu. I have watched the children's classes and they look very good. I think one of the five is right there in Oceanside." -LC
"In addition, if anyone has any suggestions of teachers, or schools in the San Diego area" (source of a.)
98/06/17: "An altavista search on "choy li fut" or "choy lee fut" or "choy lay fut" (different spellings of the same style) will produce many sites. BTW I go to White Dragon." -LC
98/06/17: "My wife and I pay a combined $110 per month. That includes 1/2 hour semi private (just the two of us) lesson per week and group classes 6 days per week, Tai Chi 3 days per week, and sparing twice per week. The school is open from about 10:00 AM to 9:00PM 6 days a week for students who want to practice or work out on the mats." -LC
alt.test
1999/03/08: Heqt Test Ignore
1999/02/26: HEQT test ignore Foo Fie Fee Baz
1998/01/15:
1997/03/17: This is a Cthulhu test
1997/03/17: Cthulhu test 2
1997/03/17: Cthulhu test 3
1996/06/04: System Administrator (author)
1996/05/30: Bob Dobbs test 1
1996/05/30: Bob Dobbs test 2
1996/05/30: Bob Dobbs test 3
talk.politics.china
98/01/20 4 part article reposted, about net access policy, promotion for anonymizer.
comp.text.tex
1998/10/10: "I am stuck using a Latex 2.09 stylesheet for my Ph.D. thesis at UCSD. I need to use some Latex packages which are only available under the newer versions of Latex. What is involved in updating a document style file to work under the new versions of Latex?" -LC
1998/10/05: "I need to find a way to wrap a long narrow table into multiple columns on a page. The table is about 5 pages long. I am stuck with Latex2.09 because of the style provided by UCSD for thesis preparation. I found and installed the "supertab" package, which breaks the table at the page breaks. The table is only two narrow columns, and looks very bad spread over 5 pages. I would like to have the table wrap into 2 or 3 columns on each page. It looks like "multicols" could do that but it seems to be a Latex2e package and not available for 2.09. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated." -LC
**NOTE**
1. math graduate coordianator says "have worked here for 4 years, don't know him"
2. cs/cse grad. coord. says "worked here 9 years, don't know him"
3. searched roger for "cottrell, lance" found nothing.
4. searched campus phone dir via studentlink and ucsd nothing.
5. graduate record office??
6. other depts...polisci or phil?
7. not econ
list.cypherpunk
1997/12/22
At 10:58 AM -0500 12/20/97, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM wrote:
>I also wouldn't trust Lance Cottrell. He's selling privacy for the >$$, not for the ideology; he'll bend over the moment he thinks >there's more $$ in bending over, which is usually the case.
>Remember how Sameer Parekh's C2Net used to try to peddle a "privacy >ISP" because he failed miserable and diversified into peddiling >shitty software and making idiotic legal threats? He happily pulled >plugs bases on content, while at the same time stating in court >papers that he doesn't censor content.
>What a pathological liar.
>
I am very glad some helpful anonymous individual forwarded this note to me. These days I only read a filtered version of the Cypherpunks, although I host one of the unfiltered nodes, and Dr. Vulis has been in my kill file for some time.
I am a bit startled at his assumption that because I charge for my services that I would bend at the first sign of trouble or pressure. Allow me to clarify my business interests. The Mixmaster software I created is free and licensed under GNU Copyleft. I do not and never have charged for the use of the Mixmaster remailer I run at mixmaster@remail.obscura.com. At this time we charge for anonymous ISP accounts, shell accounts and web hosting, and for the Anonymizer. I don't think anyone would every expect me to offer free Internet services with technical support. We also charge for unrestricted use of The Anonymizer (a free unlimited trial with 30 sec. delay is available to anyone). We did not want to charge for use of the
Anonymizer, but the advertising supported model for the service fell
through when advertisers turned out to be smart enough to see that the
whole point of The Anonymizer is to keep them from gathering the data which is the whole reason the like to advertise on the Internet in the first place. The Anonymizer is not like a remailer in the resources it consumes. I have run remailers from home machines over 14.4kbps modems. The Anonymizer will overload a T1 (up to 1000 ms ping times) by its self. This translates to approximately $2000 of generosity per month, more than I can afford by a wide margin.
As to my ideology, I think the fact that I run many of my services for
free, and the rest with a limited free option, and that I could double or triple my income if I closed shop and went to work for someone else, speak for themselves.
As long as privacy tools are free and run by hobbyists they remain, on the whole, toys. Fees allow me to have several people working full time to provide technical support, software development, and other services.
I think anonymity is important. I have thought so for many years. I have put my time and efforts where my mouth is. I think that my contributions have not been insignificant. I hope that the public feels that privacy is important too, or I am wasting my time. The fact that they are willing to pay for strong privacy and anonymity shows that they do.
Dr. Vulis' attack on Sameer was much worse than his attack on me. It is totally off base. Sameer handed off most of his "privacy ISP" business to me. The reason for this was not that it was failing, but that the software side of the business was so much more successful. About half his efforts were going toward a service generating about 10% of his revenues. Not to focus his efforts would have been very poor business practice.
I don't care to be involved in long flame wars, or pointless and endless arguments, so I will not be following this thread on the list. My record, reputation, and positions are well documented, and easy to research. Anyone who wants the truth should have no difficulty finding it.
rec.martial-arts.moderated
1998/12/04: "I would guess joint locking would be key in zero G. It might look a bit like hocky fights, where one hand grabs the shirt to hold the opponent in place while the other hand delivers strikes. -Lance
(who would love to zero G spar)"
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loki@infonex.com posting history
18 alt.privacy.anon-server
12 rec.martial-arts
10 alt.test
4 talk.politics.china
3 comp.text.tex
3 list.cypherpunks
3 rec.martial-arts.moderated
2 fa.linux.tape
2 mail.cypherpunks
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his personal sig (as on post to rec.martial-arts)
Lance Cottrell loki@infonex.com
PGP 2.6 key available by finger or server.
http://www.infonex.com/~loki/
"Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra. Suddenly
it flips over, pinning you underneath. At night the ice
weasels come."
--Nietzsche
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his business sig (as found on fa.linux.tape)
Lance M. Cottrell lcottrell@Infonex.com
Infonex Internet, Inc. President
Voice: (619) 667-7969 Fax: (619) 667-7966
www.Infonex.com
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ucsd searches
failed:
1. tried fingering LC w various combos
2. altavista search on "lance cottrell" and "cottrell -gary -G.W."
3. graduating phds listing for cse
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address(es)
Obscura Information Security
8415 La Mesa Blvd. Suite 3B
La Mesa, CA 91941
Phone: 619-667-7969
Fax: 619-667-6966
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the martial arts connection: i mailed a kung fu instructor in the san diego area i have a casual aquaintance with and asked his opinion of the white dragon schools...a paraphrase of the reply:
"they are the biggest chain in SD" and "i visited the la mesa branch as you requested. they were very enthusiastic to have me sign on, but wouldn't allow me to watch a class. they wanted me to give my information and come to a free private lesson. the instructors were very healthy but too young. I don;t beleive they could give the depth of instruction that i offer my students. They were secretive which is a bad sign in a school."
*****end lc stalk*****
i was most fascinated by the michael wilson link...there is a link from anonymizer home to 7pillars partners, and then the quote by wilson refering to anonymizer as the "best little isp on the net" and lc as "a prince among men" which i beleive is a phrase straight from machiavelli...so, some wilson stalking follows:
*****begin mw stalk*****
Michael Wilson 5514706@mcimail.com research:
whois: www.7pillars.com
Registrant:
7Pillar Partners (7PILLARS-DOM)
10475 Bellagio Road
Los Angeles, CA 90077
US
Domain Name: 7PILLARS.COM
Administrative Contact:
Wilson, William (WW702) wwilson@WWILSON.COM
310-270 3181 (FAX) 213-879 9225
Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
Galchutt, Sheryl (SG420) sheryl@DIGEX.NET
(301) 306-0050
Billing Contact:
Wilson, William (WW702) wwilson@WWILSON.COM
310-270 3181 (FAX) 213-879 9225
Record last updated on 19-Apr-97.
Database last updated on 8-Mar-99 06:51:56 EST.
Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.INFONEX.NET 209.75.197.2
NS2.INFONEX.NET 209.75.197.3
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The Nemesis Group??? (stuff below related? possibly not nec. probably)
refering page: http://www.dana.edu/~dwarman/xjd.htm american 3rd world sympathy essay chomskyesque
http://members.aol.com/NEMESISLTD/nemesis.html page is blocked by anonymizer. because of content or just cuz of aol policy?
Name and Address:
NEMESIS GROUP LIMITED
NEVIS, WEST INDIES
Business Description:CONSULTANTS:
RESOLUTION, RESTITUTION, CLOSURE, JUSTICE
SPECIALISTS IN RESOLVING DIFFICULTIES FOR LEGITIMATE BUSINESS IN THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES. SUBSTANTIAL EXPERIENCE AND
SUCCESS IN WEST AFRICA. DISCRETE AND/OR COVERT ASSISTANCE IN DIFFICULT SITUATIONS ABROAD. nemesisltd@aol.com
Listing of directory: /NEMESISLTD/
Name Last Modified Size
Parent Directory
private 22-Dec-1996 22:04 -
nemesis.html 22-Dec-1996 22:05 2K
nevis: "st. kitts & nevis" are small carribean islands s/e of anquilla and e of haiti. *very* friendly gov't to foriegn
investors. some industry including "precision instruments". has consulate in DC.
http://www.stkittsnevis.org/
http://www.candw.kn/ nevis telecom (didnt work)
http://www.offshoreagent.com/ business laws/incorp. help @nevis. *loose*
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