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This forum is supplied for demonstration purposes only and is accessible via the IBM OS/2 BBS system. What you see below is the forum as it existed on 10/30/92. The IBM OS/2 Bulletin Board System (BBS) is IBM's new electronic support offering for OS/2 Version 2.0. With OS/2 BBS you can electronically review OS/2 technical information, submit program defects to IBM, and receive information on how to solve problems. Users of the OS/2 BBS not only include OS/2 customers, but the OS/2 expertise of the entire internal IBM community worldwide. OS2BBS makes all this available via a local or toll free number in most major cities. To request a complete OS/2 BBS Information Package detailing the OS/2 BBS offering and including pricing and registration/access information, please call: 1-800-547-1283. ===== OS2WIN CFORUM created at 01:46:53 on 92/04/08 GMT (by HOPKINS at AUSVM8) IBM UNCLASSIFIED ---------------- The information in this forum is considered by IBM to be external and may be shared by everyone who is given access. This forum is shared with the internal IBM employee conferences. Forum: OS2WIN CFORUM Forum topic: OS/2 Windows Support and Programming This FORUM is provided as a conferencing tool to promote discussion of issues, questions, and problems relating to: 1. The translation of MS Windows application source code to OS/2 PM. 2. The discussion of MS Windows programming on the OS/2 Operating System using the OS/2 Windows Support. OS/2 Windows support is the code that allows for MS Windows program currently running under DOS to be able to run under OS/2 without modification. 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Contributions violating these rules will be deleted by the CFORUM Owner or their delegate, and in some cases by an IBM conference Administrator. The OS2BBS CFORUM is where anyone may raise concerns regarding rules violations found in this and other CFORUMS. The IBM Owner of this forum is: Name: Kenneth M. Hopkins, OS/2 Support Services Mailing Address: IBM Manufacturing and Development 11400 Burnet Road Internal Zip 2900-042/1D003 Austin, Texas 78758 IBM Node/Userid: AUSVM8/HOPKINS ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 10:56:58 on 92/04/08 GMT (by 63144517 at RIOVM1) Subject: Ansel for Windows under OS/2 2.0 Is there any workaround for Ansel on the OS/2 environment ? Which of the 7 limitations cited on OS2 README file does it incurr ? What other software could be used to scan using the Logitech 256 hand held scanner ? Thanks Roberto Lehmann ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 16:44:57 on 92/04/09 GMT (by WESC at ALMVMD) -- Subject: Windows or DOS? Is this forum about *DOS* programs or *MS Windows* programs under OS/2? The forum name implies to me that it's about MS Windows programs, but the next to last line of the following paragraph from the header says *DOS*. Can we make the ehader a bit clearer? > This FORUM is provided as a conferencing tool to promote > discussion of issues, questions, and problems realating to > Windows Programming for OS/2 Systems. > OS/2 Windows support is the code that allows for programs > currently running in DOS to be able to run under OS/2 > *** > without modification. Wes Christensen ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 22:34:53 on 92/04/09 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8) Subject: Windows or DOS? Ref: Append at 16:44:57 on 92/04/09 GMT (by WESC at ALMVMD) This CFORUM is for discussions of OS/2 2.0 Windows API's under VDM sessions - the use and programming with these. It is also for discussing problems with running and/or migrating existing DOS MS-Windows programs to OS/2 2.0. I hope this makes the purpose clear for you. I forwarded your append to the conference owner to clarify the header. Stephen Poole OS/2 Support - IBM Austin ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 14:29:35 on 92/04/10 GMT (by XXULTR09 at TORVMCOP) Subject:Windows clipboard settings. I am running MS Works for Windows under the 6.304E code and when ever I try to cut and paste, it comes up with a out of memory or disk full error. I have 15 megs of RAM and a 120 meghard disk. When I change the clipboard to private (under options in the clipboard object) the cut and paste does work. Is there a way to fix this problem??? Does the GA code fix the problem? Also, where can you change the settings of the clipboard so it will by default be private. Tom Bakonyi - Ultramar Canada Inc. (416) 756-5561 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 14:50:37 on 92/04/10 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Icon colors in Progman.Exe I used to create a program entry in the command prompts, and the program is the progman.exe running on the desktop. The Icon colors in PROGMAN is different than in full screen. Just one suggestion, create this entry in the command prompts by default. Geza Szivos 403-290-6583 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 13:14:55 on 92/04/13 GMT (by XXCDSX26 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Icon colors in Progman.Exe Ref: Append at 14:50:37 on 92/04/10 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Geza: I have noticed this, too. Michael Harper - Cdn Depository for Securities, Ltd. ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 13:39:25 on 92/04/13 GMT (by GOBEILLE at WSCVM) Subject: Windows clipboard settings. Ref: Append at 14:29:35 on 92/04/10 GMT (by XXULTR09 at TORVMCOP) I used to hit the 'out of memory' errors too. You can boost the memory by changing the DPMI setting, but double-check that you have the correct printer driver. When I re-installed my windows printer driver from the OS/2 disk, I no longer got the 'out of memory'. This was only needed for 304. When I installed the GA code, it apparently set up the printer drivers correctly. Janet Gobeille - Gaithersburg, MD ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 20:27:32 on 92/04/13 GMT (by XXULTR09 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Windows clipboard settings. Ref: Append at 13:39:25 on 92/04/13 GMT (by GOBEILLE at WSCVM) I had the DPMI set to 10 meg but it still did not make a difference. I don't think you need 10 megs of RAM to run a simple program like Works for Windows. Tom BAkonyi - Ultramar Canada Inc. (416) 756-5561 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 18:06:02 on 92/04/16 GMT (by HDEVORE at HOUVMSCC) Subject: Accessing LAN printers, a tip Somewhere I saw a tip that got me started on this path. When setting up my WinOS2 access to printers I had noticed the "LPT1.OS2" and "LPT2.OS2". My system is on a LAN and using LAN Requester from the Entry LAN Server I can access printers as "virtual" LPT4 to LPT9. I wanted to get access to other than just LPT1 and LPT2 from Windows applications programs. The hint I saw was that "LPT1.OS2" isn't something magical that IBM has done to WinOS2 but is just a filename that happens to get intercepted by the operating system. Armed with that knowledge I edited the WIN.INI file found in \OS2\MDOS\WINOS2 and located the lines that read "LPT1.OS2=". There I added lines for LPT3.OS2 thru LPT9.OS2 and saved the file. It worked just dandy! I was able to use the WinOS2 Control Panel to setup a LAN accessible IBM 6182 plotter as "LPT5.OS2". When I printed to it the output routed to the OS/2 LAN Server (still a 1.3 system in this case) and plotted just fine. Hal L. DeVore Jr. Space Station DMS Software Development ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 19:57:28 on 92/04/16 GMT (by XXBCHY11 at TORVMCOP) Subject:Windows 3.1 Beta Code From: Joe Smeets, Vancouver, BC I quote from OS/2 GA readme file " IBM's testing of a beta Windows Version 3.1 environment indicates that the OS/2 2.0 installation program will not configure your WIN-OS/2 desktop. If the Windows directory that is found is from a Windows 3.1 environment, either change the DOS PATH to point to a Windows Version 3.0 environment, or select the default environment" This paragraph does not indicate that Windows version 3.1 and the accessories such as Paintbrush, Write, etc.. DO NOT RUN under OS/2 2.0 GA.(6.307) I have tried several times myself, but to no avail. I can set objects up for them, but that's all ! My Windows V3.1 beta is from last December. Have I missed or forgotten anything ?? ----------------------------------------- Joe Smeets ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 21:01:36 on 92/04/16 GMT (by ARTIGUES at LSAVMIC1) Subject: Windows 3.1 Beta Code Ref: Append at 19:57:28 on 92/04/16 GMT (by XXBCHY11 at TORVMCOP) The Windows code that ships with OS/2 is 3.0 level. You won't be able to run any 3.1 accessories under WIN-OS2 unless they also run under 3.0. Just out of curiosity, and I have no idea if this would work or not, have you tried to run 3.1 in a DOS VDM? Cathy Artigues Systems Engineer San Diego Commercial Branch ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 14:45:10 on 92/04/21 GMT (by SCHLOSS at YKTVMH) Subject: Shutdown asks about a Windows program -- is this correct? Under Microsoft Windows 3.0, exiting Windows automatically terminates most Windows programs (any with a data file that has been modified and not saved will typically ask you whether to save it). Under OS/2 2.0, doing a shutdown from the desktop asks me about my open Window application (IBM Current). I expected that it would just close the application, the same way the Windows program manager does. Am I doing something wrong? If not, could this be changed in a future OS/2 update? Bob Schloss, IBM Research, Hawthorne NY ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 14:55:24 on 92/04/21 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Shutdown asks about a Windows program -- is this correct? Ref: Append at 14:45:10 on 92/04/21 GMT (by SCHLOSS at YKTVMH) As I see this behaviour, this is a definite feature. This prevents the data loss, and you can terminate the shutdown . But I do have problem when it asks the question and I'm just running a cmd.exe ( os2 window). Geza Szivos ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 15:43:36 on 92/04/23 GMT (by XXCWBD08 at TORVMCOP) Subject: cc:Mail for Windows Problems We are having difficulties with cc:Mail for Windows with the OS/2 2.0 GA code. Our configuration is as follows: IBM PS/2 model 90 with 8MB RAM IBM TCP/IP for OS/2 1.2 to an NFS server We have tried to start cc:Mail for Windows both in "seamless" windows VGA mode and full screen XGA mode. In both environments, it abends after displaying the inbasket with a GP Fault in OS2K286.EXE. This happens every time if the inbasket entries fill the screen. If the inbasket is not full you can do a bit of work but it soon abends. We have reported the problem to the OS/2 support line but they had no suggestions or recommendations that were of any use. Is anyone else having similar problems? Is anyone else using cc:Mail for Windows successfully under OS/2. ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 16:42:44 on 92/04/23 GMT (by RF27JRHE at RALVM5) Subject: Windows 3.1 Beta Code Ref: Append at 19:57:28 on 92/04/16 GMT (by XXBCHY11 at TORVMCOP) I am sure that the 3.1 accessories use the common dialog DLL and the OLE DLLs which are availiable in a form that run under Windows 3.0 (they have been shipped with applications like QuickC, AMIPRO, and the Visual Basic Professional Toolkit). J. R. Hind ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 16:52:58 on 92/04/23 GMT (by RF27JRHE at RALVM5) Subject: Accessing LAN printers, a tip Ref: Append at 18:06:02 on 92/04/16 GMT (by HDEVORE at HOUVMSCC) "LPT1.OS2" is simply a "filename" designation that can be defined in the ports section of the INI file. It does two things, 1) it indicates that windows system code should use standard DOS file I/O to reach the printer rather than attempting to use the hardware directly 2) when DOS sees a DEVICE name used as a filename NO MATTER WHAT the file extension or drive/path value the file I/O request is passed to the device which has the matching value. To use say LPT3: one could then define a file name in the INI ports section of say "LPT3.XXX" and then choose this designation from the printer setup menu. J. R. Hind ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 18:31:09 on 92/04/30 GMT (by LECTION at BETASVM2) Subject: Rewriting Windows Applications for OS/2 Ref: None Just a note to customers monitoring this forum. I am in the process of putting together sort of a "cookbook" of ideas, techniques, etc, that you will find useful if you are converting a Windows application to OS/2 2.00. If you have any suggestions for this cookbook, including any topics you want covered, please append your ideas/questions to this forum. Thanks! David B. Lection IBM OS/2 Extensions Development - Bethesda ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 19:58:38 on 92/05/04 GMT (by HDEVORE at HOUVMSCC) Subject: What resolution do Windows apps use with XGA On a system with a populated XGA and 8514 what resolution will/can full screen Windows applications run? Do they use VGA or will they be in high-res? Hal L. DeVore Jr. Space Station DMS Software Development ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 00:05:43 on 92/05/05 GMT (by SBRZAYD at OS2CUST) Subject: Win 3.1 under GA... NOT! My understanding of the WIN-OS/2 support was that IBM had to modify the windows kernel to allow it to become a DMPI "client" (as opposed to its native "server" mode). If this is indeed the case, we will need to wait until Big Blue can crunch away on the new 3.1 code before GA will ever support the latest Windows stuff. Chris C. American Management Systems ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 00:15:46 on 92/05/05 GMT (by SBRZAYD at OS2CUST) Subject: Starting a seamless window with arguments I've known for sometime now that you can start a windows application seamless using a command line similar to this: START /WIN WINHELP.EXE All is fine and good. However, we market an OS/2 based product that is very dependent on our ability to spawn off other programs. We have been unable to start a seamless Windows program with a command line argument. Try this line... it doesn't work. START /WIN WINHELP.EXE CONTROL.HLP This is too obvious a bug to be a bug; I'm sure that I'm just missing something. Any ideas? Thanks! Chris C. American Management Systems ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 01:09:35 on 92/05/05 GMT (by ADUNSMUI at TOROLAB6) Subject: Win 3.1 under GA... NOT! Ref: Append at 00:05:43 on 92/05/05 GMT (by SBRZAYD at OS2CUST) Lee Reiswig (AKA the Blue Ninja) demonstrated an early version of this at the April COMDEX. It was code fresh from the Boca developers (1 day after Win 3.1 GA) had a seamless version of Windows 3.1 integrated into a post-GA version of OS/2 V2.0. It was a bit of a hit with the crowd... Al Dunsmuir - Appended at 9:03:54 PM EDT on 92/05/04 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 11:37:57 on 92/05/06 GMT (by IL29399 at OS2CUST) Subject: Windows icons for OS2 I have many Windows Icons, I would like to use them. Is there any easy way to use them as OS2 Icons? ICONDRAW that came with the 3.0 windows resource can ch ange windows icons, but the OS2 icon draw can't read these files. I have custo mized many icons and want to use them. Any help would be appreciated. ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 12:32:31 on 92/05/06 GMT (by SHERIDAN at TOROLAB6) Subject: Windows icons for OS2 Ref: Append at 11:37:57 on 92/05/06 GMT (by IL29399 at OS2CUST) There is a shareware(freeware?) program available on CI$, GEnie, and many BBSs called CVTICON that will convert back and forth between Windows format and OS/2 format. That's what I use. There may be some way around it without this tool but I found it perfect for my needs. James R. Sheridan SHERIDAN @ TOROLAB6 AD/Cycle CODE Development sheridan@torolab6.vnet.ibm.com IBM Canada - Toronto Lab 6 May 1992 ( at 08:30:53 AM EDT ) ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 13:05:11 on 92/05/06 GMT (by NATI027 at OS2CUST) Subject: cc:Mail for Windows Problems Ref: Append at 15:43:36 on 92/04/23 GMT (by XXCWBD08 at TORVMCOP) I have a configuration that includes using cc:Mail under OS/2 2.0 without problem. I am using the following configuration for the server: IBM PS/2 Model 95 w/ 16meg OS/2 2.0 OS/2 LAN Server Entry The workstations are running both Micro$oft Windows and OS/2 2.0 Windows. We have not experienced the problem you are referencing. We are running the cc:Mail Gateway in a DOS session on the server to connect to remote postoffices and that is working fine as well. Your note indicates you are running under NFS. Maybe that is the portion that is causing some problems. How many notes need to be in the in-basket for the system to crash? I will add that many to mine to see what happens. ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 15:05:51 on 92/05/06 GMT (by XXCWBD04 at TORVMCOP) Subject: cc:Mail for Windows Problems Ref: Append at 13:05:11 on 92/05/06 GMT (by NATI027 at OS2CUST) The Inbasket needs to be large enough to fill the screen when you look at your inbasket. (approx. 30). We have talked to Lotus who have said this is a known problem running cc:Mail for Windows under OS/2. Greg Athayde Canadian Wheat Board (204) 983-3801 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 21:33:11 on 92/05/07 GMT (by RRKURTZ at PKEDVM9) Subject: GP FAULT IN MODULE ATM16.DLL AT 0003:D0B5 Anyone recognize the above error? Customer is getting this running Lotus Freelance for Windows under OS/2 2.0. Before installing OS/2 he did a LL format of his drive. Installed OS/2 Installed ATM under WIN_OS/2 Installed Freelance Gets the above every time he tries to start Freelance. This worked okay for him under previous Beta levels. PS/2 M80-161 8514/A with 8514 IBM 4029 printer (fully loaded) TR 16/4 Dick Kurtz - TEAMOS2, Poughkeepsie NY ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 23:31:36 on 92/05/07 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST) Subject: WP4WIN - is FIXWP'ed file ok with real DOS/WIN3.0 We want to share one copy of Word Perfect for Windows on our OS/2 LAN Server for both OS/2 2.0 and DOS/WIN clients. We have to run FIXWP on the WPWINFIL.EX E file so that OS/2 can run this program properly. The fix program warns about not using this file with real DOS/WIN, but I called WP and they said there would be no problems with using the fixed file under DOS/WIN3.0. Has anybody had any expiernce to the contrary? Thanks Mike Long Iowa State University ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 23:51:51 on 92/05/07 GMT (by SBRZAYD at OS2CUST) Subject: ATM GP fault with Freelance Adobe Type Manager (ATM) 2.0 is included with the OS/2 2.0 Windows support (ATM is itself an integral part of the base operating system). The Freelance installation will ask you if you want to install ATM 1.15 but this is not necessary; instead you want to place the ATM install disk in the floppy drive and, using the ATM 2.0 program provided in a fullscreen Windows session, install the fonts that come with the 1.15 disk. I don't know if this is what is causing the GP fault but I noticed the discrepency and it struck me as strange. Chris C. American Management Systems ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 12:36:05 on 92/05/08 GMT (by HALLERMA at BCRVMPC1) Subject: GP FAULT IN MODULE ATM16.DLL AT 0003:D0B5 Ref: Append at 21:33:11 on 92/05/07 GMT (by RRKURTZ at PKEDVM9) Why did he install ATM under WINOS2? ATM for Windows comes built-in to 2.0. Mel Hallerman ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 13:30:50 on 92/05/08 GMT (by KAZMIR at AUSVM1) Subject: WINDOWS .BMP HEADERS AND OS/2 Ref: Append at 23:51:51 on 92/05/07 GMT (by KAZMIR at AUSVM1) I am to understand that windows puts some type of header at the beginning of a regular .BMP file that renders it unreadable to OS/2. Is there any way to remove this header or otherwise convert it back to a format that can be read as an OS/2-style .BMP file? Or, alternately, into another format that can be read by an OS/2 PM program? ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 14:19:15 on 92/05/08 GMT (by NABK3LP at OS2CUST) Subject: Printing from Microsoft Project for Windows I have Pathworks for DOS installed. When I run it in native DOS 4.1, it runs fine. I have managed to create a VMDISK so that it comes up in an OS/2 DOS DVM , but I cannot "leave" that session for any appreciable length of time without being "disconnected" from the network (Ethernet/Decnet). One specific symptom is that from the PS/CICS side (I log onto that application ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 14:22:30 on 92/05/08 GMT (by NABK3LP at OS2CUST) Subject: Printing from Microsoft Project for Windows I can run Microsoft Project for Windows from the Windows Full Screen selection under OS/2, but I can't seem to print to the printer attached locally to my PC. What should I have done when installing OS/2 to make this work better? The m essage I get from Project is pretty basic and says that it is not able to print . I am currently running the 6.177 version of OS/2, as soon as I get the GA ve rsion, I will switch over..... Thanx ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 16:51:12 on 92/05/08 GMT (by Z8057A at OS2CUST) Subject: Norton Desktop for Windows Is it possible to run the Norton Desktop for Windows as my Windows full screen interface? The Norton Desktop is much more OS/2 like and it is easier to use. T his also brings up the question of using the features on the NDW like the Norto n Anti-Virus. If it is possible then how do I do it? If not why not and when? T hanks in advance for your help. ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 17:11:08 on 92/05/08 GMT (by RRKURTZ at PKEDVM9) Subject: GP FAULT IN MODULE ATM16.DLL AT 0003:D0B5 Ref: Append at 12:36:05 on 92/05/08 GMT (by HALLERMA at BCRVMPC1) Mel, you have to go into WIN-OS/2 then use the ATM Control Panel to actually install the ATM fonts for WIN-OS/2. When I first bring up WIN-OS/2 I see the ATM icon but it has a yellow bar through it. From PROGMAN I opened ATM and then selected ADD to load the ATM fonts from Printer disk 5. BTW: I just talked to someone who said they had the same problem and they resolved it by removing the chek from the box in ATM Control Panel that says to use resident fonts. Then reboot and that fixed his ^roblem. Dick Kurtz - TEAMOS2, Poughkeepsie NY ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 17:34:01 on 92/05/08 GMT (by MLCOHEN at BCRVMPC1) Subject: WINDOWS .BMP HEADERS AND OS/2 Ref: Append at 13:30:50 on 92/05/08 GMT (by KAZMIR at AUSVM1) OS/2 2.0 should be able to read any Windows 3.0 BMP file. Try placing it in the /os2/bitmap directory and selecting it for a folder background or lockup bitmap. From: Marc Cohen -- OS/2 PM Graphics Engine ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 04:22:13 on 92/05/09 GMT (by HOPKINS at AUSVM8 for TEC05 at OS2CUST) Subject: WINOS2 NETWORK AWARE APNDMOVEd: From NEW2OS2 CFORUM I have several Windows apps that give me the ability to look at SQL data on a L AN server. When I attempt to run them I get the error Cannot find NETAPI.DLL. a long with several other errors. Is the windows support under 2.0 have the netwo rk ability to be network aware. There is no configuration under WINOS2 to allow me to tell it that I am running OS/2 LAN REQUESTER. Is there a way to make thi s work without havin g to load a DOS DLR and real MS windows.??? ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 23:59:26 on 92/05/09 GMT (by KAZMIR at AUSVM1) Subject: WINDOWS .BMP HEADERS AND OS/2 Ref: Append at 17:34:01 on 92/05/08 GMT (by KAZMIR at AUSVM1) Hmmm..that seemed to work...the picture viewer I'm using is the problem, I guess. Does that mean that the picture viewer included in 2.0 will also read the files? (Or what is the file that lockup uses?) Is there any way to use a BMP as the desktop background in 2.0, much like the programs for 1.3 and the control panel selections in WinOS/2? Peter A. Kazmir ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 14:02:16 on 92/05/11 GMT (by ER1RSRS at OS2CUST) Subject: EXCEL 3.0 with HP Paintjet printer under OS/2 I have a PS/2 w/8MB memory and an HP Paintjet Printer. When I attempt to combi ne a chart with a spreadsheet under WINOS2 and print it, I receive a general protection error and an out of memory message. When I attempt the same action under WIN3 directly, it works fine. I have increased the extended memory available to this WINOS2 session and I still have the problem. Any ideas??? Thanks. ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 18:22:30 on 92/05/11 GMT (by IL22868 at OS2CUST) Subject: WINDOWS .BMP HEADERS AND OS/2 Ref: Append at 23:59:26 on 92/05/09 GMT (by KAZMIR at AUSVM1) Open the Settings notebook for the Desktop, and click on the "Background" tab. Then click on the "Image" radio button. If the BMP file has been copied into x:\OS2\BITMAP (where x is your OS/2 2.0 boot drive), then it should appear in the combo box entry field. If you haven't put it there, then you can use the "Find" button (and the subsequent "Locate" button to specify the directory of your BMP) to get it into the combo box. I beleive the Picture Viewer applet works only for Metafiles, not for Bitmaps. ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 19:04:44 on 92/05/11 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST) Subject: WINOS2 NETWORK AWARE Ref: Append at 04:22:13 on 92/05/09 GMT (by HOPKINS at AUSVM8 for TEC05 at OS2C I think you can get this to work with Virtual booting a real IBM DOS 5.0, DOS LAN Requester, and load WINOS2 and set the network type to IBM LAN Server ( or was it MS LAN Manager 2.0 Enhanced???). Good luck Mike Long Iowa State University ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 21:08:42 on 92/05/11 GMT (by PINHEIRO at RHQVM21) Subject: Paintjet I too have had problems when using the Paintjet Driver with OS/2 2.0. At times, especially with more than one job in the queue, the system hung or became so slow (a 33MHz 486!) as to be unusable. Another problem is when I created a second printer object and configured it for landscape printing. When I tried to print a couple of files, it seems the printer driver destroyed itself - it came up with a message saying it couldn't find a specific routine. Re-installing the drver did no good until I finally erased the driver files by hand and then re-installed it. I would there are problems with this driver, in both OS/2 native mode and also when running in WINOS/2 mode. Ed Pinheiro, IBM ACIS ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 00:37:57 on 92/05/13 GMT (by AABB0FC at OS2CUST) Subject: Double paint for Windows Applications Does anybody know what settings are required to keep Windows application (in seamless mode) from repainting their window area twice? It sure slows down the performance. Larry Smith Southern California Edison ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 15:08:29 on 92/05/14 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) - Subject: Starting a seamless window with arguments Ref: Append at 00:15:46 on 92/05/05 GMT (by SBRZAYD at OS2CUST) You CAN start a CMD file that will allow all parameters to be passed, like... START MYCMD.CMD MYCMD.CMD --- START /WIN d:\path\EXCEL.EXE MYFILE.XCL Irv Spalten BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 15:09:40 on 92/05/14 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) - Subject: WP4WIN - is FIXWP'ed file ok with real DOS/WIN3.0 Ref: Append at 23:31:36 on 92/05/07 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST) No too well documented, but there is an UNFIXWP that works just like FIXWP to allow you to run as you did in DOS. Irv Spalten BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 12:36:19 on 92/05/15 GMT (by HSB1038 at OS2CUST) Subject: Windows programs will not load full-screen I cannot get windows applications to load full-screen. I have a model 90 with XGA although I am running it in VGA mode. If I change the sessions to a Win/OS /2 window everything works fine. If I try to run the app in a full screen I ge t an application execution error with the following message: Cannot find file; Please check the path etc. The dialog panel does not have the focus and I cannot press OK to get by the er ror. I must hot-key back to the desktop and kill the session. It never happen s on windowed sessions. I reinstalled window to no avail. I then deleted all the files in the windows directories and reinstalled and got it to work. The next day however, it stop ped working again. Any thoughts would be appreciated. ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 02:01:22 on 92/05/16 GMT (by MFGI002 at OS2CUST) Subject: PC3270 won't start up under windows I am trying to start PC/3270 v2.0 in windows mode under os/2 2.0 SE on a ps/2 model 55. I started it up based on the instructions in OS2 TNT 1.1 but ran into several Issues. As I am Running it in DFT mode rather than via lan, I do not have, and cannot add to dos_device, the dxma and pcs802 modules. I also, do not have PC3270WO.bat file. Instead the conversion Program appears to prodcuce PC3270W.bat which calls pc3270WX.bat. After setting up the dos_shell for the seperate session with /C PC3270W.bat the message "This program will not run in a WIN-OS/2 Session. Use and OS2 or DOS session' Is Issued. Any Ideas on qht the problem is or how to determine the problem? ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 23:36:25 on 92/05/17 GMT (by LECTION at BETASVM2) Subject: PC3270 won't start up under windows Ref: Append at 02:01:22 on 92/05/16 GMT (by MFGI002 at OS2CUST) Without seeing your PC3270W.BAT I cannot say for sure, but I can tell you that I am running the environment you wish (DFT) and I do not have any problems. What I did was place all of the PC3270W.BAT stuff that loads the PC/3270 TSR into my autoexec.bat, and this seems to work well. You may to try this. You mentioned creating an extra shell? I don't think you need an additional shell step. Tomorrow, from work I'll append my autoexec if you wish? David B. Lection ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 12:37:33 on 92/05/18 GMT (by RUETTING at STUTVM3) Subject: Starting a seamless window with arguments Ref: Append at 00:15:46 on 92/05/05 GMT (by SBRZAYD at OS2CUST) I have the same problem as Chris: I am not able to pass a parameter to a seamless started windows program. I tried the way Chris did it: START /WIN NOTEPAD.EXE filename I also tried to start a command file MYCMD.CMD, that did the start-command of the windows program (Irv's suggestion). With both ways I had no success. Can anybody append a working command file passing a parameter (filename) to e.g. NOTEPAD.EXE. Thank you Stefan ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 16:13:23 on 92/05/18 GMT (by MFGI002 at OS2CUST) Subject: PC3270 won't start up under windows Thanks. Would definitley appreciate copy of your autoexec.bat file. I setup based on the pcom 3270 tips in the os2 TNT 1.1. COuld you tell me what type of session you are it in, win-os2 or dos, and I assume you put the autoexec.bat stuff in the win-os2 or dos settings for the object?. Thanks for your help. ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 16:01:51 on 92/05/19 GMT (by AAEBC3P at OS2CUST) Subject: Unable to start IRMA Workstation for Windows I have been unable to start IRMA Workstation for Windows under OS/2 GA. I set the emulator program (EMU.EXE) up as a program object and entered the emulator config file (sessiona.emu) in the PARAMETERS field. Both program and config file are in the C:\IRMAWIN directory which is specified in the WORKING DIRECTORY field. When I click on the EMU icon I get a message from EMU: UNABLE TO FIND CONFIG FILE. I tried specifying the full drive and path for the config file in the program settings, but no go. I also tried this as a START command in an OS/2 full screen: START /WIN C:\IRMAWIN\EMU.EXE C:\IRMAWIN\SESSIONA.EMU. Same error. I tried the START command from both the OS/2 and IRMAWIN directories with the same result. Is this the same as/related to the other START command problems? ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 18:30:19 on 92/05/19 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST) Subject: WP4WIN - is FIXWP'ed file ok with real DOS/WIN3.0 Ref: Append at 15:09:40 on 92/05/14 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) - Thanks for the reply, but I called Word Perfect last week and ordered their new interim release that is not supposed to need the FIXWP command. That should al low us to have one shared copy of this program on our OS/2 LAN Server for both OS/2 2.0 and DOS/WIN clients. Thanks Mike Long Iowa State University ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 18:54:30 on 92/05/19 GMT (by ERC at TUCVM2) --- Subject: Running in the background I am trying to run MATHCAD 3.0 for windows in OS2. I have a mod 80 with a 8514/a. I am running the window in the full screen mode. I used the merge function to create the MathCad application. The program runs fine when I have the program as the current application. If I switch back to the OS2 desktop the application does not continue to run in the background. I have checked the WIN-OS2 settings option for running in the background to ON. Is there something else I need to do? Thanks Ed Childers ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 22:49:39 on 92/05/21 GMT (by IL42407 at OS2CUST) Subject: Can OS/2 2.0 be installed on a machine w. Windows 3.1 installed? Can OS/2 2.0 be installed on a machine w. Windows 3.1 installed already? Do I need to do anything special? ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 14:42:42 on 92/05/22 GMT (by KIMBLE at RCHVMV) Subject: Insufficient memory in WIN-OS/2 Can anyone help me figure out how to run my sole Windows application, Mathcad? I keep getting "insufficient memory" errors when I try to start it, even when I increase the DPMI Memory Limit to 10MB and close the Clipboard, Print Manager and DDE Interchange Agent (whatever that is). My system is an 8570 (486 mod-70) with 14MB. I'll appreciate any suggestions... Chris Kimble ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 14:59:04 on 92/05/22 GMT (by CNADLER at WMAVM1) Subject: Can OS/2 2.0 be installed on a machine w. Windows 3.1 installed? Ref: Append at 22:49:39 on 92/05/21 GMT (by IL42407 at OS2CUST) Just install normally, but when you get to the point where it asks you if you want to migrate an existing Windows setup or use the default - USE THE DEFAULT!!!! Many errors can happen if you try to migrate a Windows 3.1 setup to OS/2 (for now - when 3.1 code is included that shouldn't be necessary). Cliff Nadler Federal Sector Services Rockville, MD IBM Federal Systems Company PROFS: NADLER at WMAVM7 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 16:21:55 on 92/05/22 GMT (by VEND391 at BLDVM1) Subject: Can OS/2 2.0 be installed on a machine w. Windows 3.1 installed? Ref: Append at 22:49:39 on 92/05/21 GMT (by IL42407 at OS2CUST) 1) Yes. I have it installed on my machine.(Applications that are specifically 3.1 apps, like the 3.1 Accessories, won't work. But applications like Microsoft Publisher for Windows, which works with 3.0 or 3.1, work OK.) 2) When OS/2 installation asks whether to use the default WINOS2 setup or migrate your previous one, tell it to use the default. Elyse M. Grasso Dept:G82 SN:5063 Div:ASD Ext:5 - 0436 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 16:40:50 on 92/05/22 GMT (by LECTION at BETASVM2) Subject: Insufficient memory in WIN-OS/2 Ref: Append at 14:42:42 on 92/05/22 GMT (by KIMBLE at RCHVMV) Chris, This is just a shot in the dark, but isn't MathCad one of those few Windows applications that requires Windows running enhanced mode, rather than standard mode? WinOS/2 only supports Windows applications in standard mode. David B. Lection ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 14:20:06 on 92/05/23 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8) Subject: Insufficient memory in WIN-OS/2 Ref: Append at 14:42:42 on 92/05/22 GMT (by KIMBLE at RCHVMV) If it is not the because the application needs Window Extended, another possibility is because the OS/2 SWAPPER.DAT cannot expand. Check if your "system" drive (usually C:) has available space. If available space is "tight" (<1MB), it can cause problems for OS/2. Try to free up some space if this is the case. Stephen Poole OS/2 Service and Support - IBM Austin, TX ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 15:36:53 on 92/05/26 GMT (by ERC at TUCVM2) --- Subject:MATHCAD I have not had any trouble getting MATHCAD to run under OS2. I have a Mod 80 with 10 Meg. I installed Mathcad using something called FFIX? as noted in the OS2 README file regarding MATHCAD. I used the merge option to create the icon to run MathCad. My problem is that the application does not run in the background. I've checked the DOS_BACKGROUND_EXECUTION to on in the WIN-OS2 settings but the program stops when it is not on the screen. Any ideas? Thanks Ed Childers ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 16:30:00 on 92/05/27 GMT (by IL78568 at OS2CUST) Subject: Ref: Append at 15:36:53 on 92/05/26 GMT (by ERC at TUCVM2) --- Check the Master Help Index for an entry under "Display adapters -DOS and Windows" (not exact, but I'm pretty sure it starts "display adapters"). Certain video combinations are described that cause background execution to be suspended. Hope this helps. Brooks McNeely - Martin Marietta Enery Systems, Inc. ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 08:33:52 on 92/05/28 GMT (by IL48228 at OS2CUST) Subject: WINOS2 NETWORK AWARE Ref: Append at 04:22:13 on 92/05/09 GMT (by HOPKINS at AUSVM8 for TEC05 at OS2C his used to work before GA just by running the OS/2 requester and making sure that the DOS NETAPI.DLL and other DBLIB stuff was in the path. As best I can f igure something changed at GA which is blocking the communication between DOS/W IN-OS2 and the OS/2 requester becuase I have not been able to get this to work. I have been able to boot a DOS and run the DOS requester, but that limits WIN -OS2 to real-mode only and the performance suffers. If you come accross a solution I'd certainly like to here back from you. Thank You. Brian Davelaar, City of Tacoma ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 15:19:11 on 92/05/28 GMT (by ERC at TUCVM2) --- Subject:Mathcad for Windows running in the Background Thanks for the info! Your right, a window application will not run in the background with a 8514/a if it wants to write to the screen. It seems that this means that OS2 can't really run windows applications with a 8514. Ed Childers ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 15:19:20 on 92/05/28 GMT (by IL22868 at OS2CUST) Subject: Running in the background 2 I am also trying to run a real-time Token-Ring Network client-serverWindows pr ogram. I must run the Windows session under a DOS 5.0 DLR specific DOS VDM, as the Windows program uses peer-to-peer NETBIOS for getting the real-time data (thus, I can not run the application in a "seamless" Window session -- besides I am running in XGA high-res mode). When I switch away from the FS Window session, the application stops, and I lose data. I also have DOS_BACKGROUND_EXECUTION set On. WHAT DO I NEED TO DO TO KEEP THE APPLICATION RUNNING IN THE BACKGROUND? (I know the application stops, because the Pulse graph drops to near 0 when I switch away from it.) Another interesting observation: When WINOS2 is running in the DOS 5.0 DLR VDM and I switch away from it to the Desktop, the Pulse graph display drops to near 0, but when WINOS2 is NOT running in the DOS 5.0 DLR VDM and I switch away from the VDM, the Pulse graph display is pegged at the top. Ken Singer, Shell Oil, Houston ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 15:59:18 on 92/05/28 GMT (by IL22868 at OS2CUST) Subject: Ref: Append at 16:30:00 on 92/05/27 GMT (by IL78568 at OS2CUST) According to the table on page 11 of the "OS/2 2.0 Compatability Information" booklet, as long as "a Windows display driver that suppresses background output" is used (I presume the 8514/A and XGA drivers supplied by IBM with OS/2 2.0 do so), then Full Screen Windows Apps should still run in the background. Ken Singer, Shell Oil, Houston ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 18:32:46 on 92/05/28 GMT (by COOPER at RALYDPD4) ..... OS2WIN CFORUM modified at 19:05:33 on 92/05/28 GMT (by COOPER at RALYDPD4) Subject: Norton Desktop for Windows Ref: Append at 16:51:12 on 92/05/08 GMT (by Z8057A at OS2CUST) I have Norton Desktop for Windows 2.0 running under WINOS2 fullscreen. I have not fully tested this but it appears to work fine. After installation, I manually edited NDW.INI in \os2\mdos\winos2 subdirectory. Under NHookSettings, I changed Int21Hook=1 to Int21Hook=0. Everything worked fine after making this change. | I dragged a file from file manager and dropped on Anti Virus. Worked as | advertised! | Tony Cooper - Team OS2 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 19:23:47 on 92/05/28 GMT (by IL22868 at OS2CUST) Subject: for Windows running in the Background Ref: Append at 15:19:11 on 92/05/28 GMT (by ERC at TUCVM2) --- I think I found the Magic Cookie!!! With my XGA in high-res mode (FS Windows only) I could not get Windows to run in the background until I set VIDEO_SWITCH_NOTIFICATION "On". Also, I had to set VIDEO_8514_XGA_IOTRAP "On" to avoid having colors messed up when I switched back to WINOS2 from the Desktop. I am now a happy camper!! Ken Singer, Shell Oil, Houston ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 19:38:38 on 92/05/28 GMT (by IL22868 at OS2CUST) Subject: SOLVED!! - Running Windows in background 2 I think I found the Magic Cookie!!! With my XGA in high-res mode (FS Windows only) I could not get Windows to run in the background until I set VIDEO_SWITCH_NOTIFICATION "On". Also, I had to set VIDEO_8514_XGA_IOTRAP "On" to avoid having colors messed up when I switch back to WINOS2 from the Desktop. I am now a happy camper!! Ken Singer, Shell Oil, Houston ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 21:59:06 on 92/05/28 GMT (by VEND391 at BLDVM1) Subject: Norton Desktop for Windows Ref: Append at 18:32:46 on 92/05/28 GMT (by COOPER at RALYDPD4) Are you using NDW 2.0 as your windows shell, or just running it as a program?(i.e. is the shell= line in your system.ini calling progman.exe or ndw.exe?) Elyse M. Grasso Dept:G82 SN:5063 Div:ASD Ext:5 - 0436 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 13:40:30 on 92/05/29 GMT (by COOPER at RALYDPD4) Subject: Norton Desktop for Windows Ref: Append at 21:59:06 on 92/05/28 GMT (by VEND391 at BLDVM1) Elyse, I'm using Nortons desktop as the WINOS2 shell. Progman has been replaced. I installed via RUN on WINOS2 fullscreen. When prompted to restart WIN, I did and OS/2 shutdown app with error (forgot which). Anyway, I then manually edited the NDW.INI file and made the changes mentioned in the previous append. VIOLA! BTW, my system is PS/2 80-71, VGA, 16meg RAM, & 2nd 70meg HD. A pretty standard IBM system. The Norton backup program did fail, so I'm now using PMTape. Tony Cooper - Team OS2 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 19:23:03 on 92/06/02 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) Subject: Seamless Window Support I am slightly disappointed with the seamless windows support. I don't want to or feel that I should have to know that I'm running a windows program from my desktop. After all - what happened to consistency. I want and think that the seamless windows support should emulate the style of the OS/2 version 2.0 features (i.e. colors, min/max icons, etc.). However, if I go to a WINOS2 session I want these features to appear as they should. After all - what does seamless mean! I asked the same question at a demo presented by John Soyring. He mentioned that there were some "developer's DLL" that would provide this functionality (as I expected - this shouldn't be that be of a detail). How can I get these DLL's? Maybe this should be included in a future version to fullfil that seamless promise. If I can't purchase an OS/2 Presentation Manager program, please provide the next best thing (i.e. an "enhanced" version of a windows program that looks and acts like an OS/2 Presentation Manager program). Thanks for your help. Tracy Pipkin ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 22:17:17 on 92/06/02 GMT (by THRUMD at SYDVM1) Subject: Seamless Window Support Ref: Append at 19:23:03 on 92/06/02 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) My guess is that the "developers DLL" that John was referring to is the product that provides versions of the new OS/2 V2 controls (container, slider, notebook etc) for the Windows and OS/2 V1 environment, to assist developers to build applications for multiple environments (OS/2 V2, V1 and Windows). Regarding making windows apps behave like OS/2 apps: well, this is one of those issues where it will be hard to get people to agree! users migrating from the Windows environment certainly might not be happy if their applications no longer worked the same way! The fact is that Windows is different from OS/2, just as character-mode DOS is different from OS/2, and OS/2 tries to allow them to function as close as possible to their native mode. Dave ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 16:03:34 on 92/06/03 GMT (by WZ00541 at OS2CUST) Subject: Rewriting Windows Applications for OS/2 Ref: Append at 18:31:09 on 92/04/30 GMT (by LECTION at BETASVM2) David, I am very interested in seeing anything you have on converting Windows applications to OS/2. We are currently converting our product to OS/2 using MIRRORS. Here are some of the areas we are interested in: - Sharing memory between processes - Using LoadLibrary vs DOSLoadModule - Any known differences between MIRRORS and Windows (Messages, etc...) That's about all for now. I may think of some others later. Thanks. Joel Rosenberger, Attachmate Corporation ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 16:21:56 on 92/06/03 GMT (by WZ00541 at OS2CUST) Subject: Problems using MIRRORS Our company has been converting our product to OS/2 using MIRRORS. We have found several problems with the MIRRORS conversion. 1. MIRRORS does not appear to setup the argc and argv variables correctly. Windows (as specified in section 2.3.11 of the Guide to Programming)correctly parses the command line and initializes these variables. 2. MIRRORS does not appear to generate WM_PARENTNOTIFY messages when a button control is clicked. As outlined in the SDK reference, this message should be sent to the parent of a child window during its creation (WM_CREATE), its destruction (WM_DESTROY), and when the user clicks on a child window (WM_xBUTTONDOWN). 3. There seems to be problems when modifying the main window menu during a WM_INITMENUPOPUP message. Specifically, replacing the submenu that is about to be acessed using ModifyMenu, results in a GP fault. This is not the case in Windows. Oddly enough, using PMSPY on the window appears to rectify the situation. 4. EnumWindows is supposed to call your callback routine for each window on the screen. It will not include minimized windows. When your callback returns NULL, the enumeration does NOT stop as outlined in the SDK reference manual. 5. GetModuleFileName returns NULL strings for system items such as the clipboard and prompts folder. 6. Using FindWindow to find the 'clipboard' (and perhaps other system windows) returns the window handle of the DESKTOP. Any help on these problem would be appreciated. Thanks. Joel Rosenberger, Attachmate Corporation ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 17:28:28 on 92/06/03 GMT (by LECTION at BETASVM2) ..... OS2WIN CFORUM modified at 19:14:22 on 92/06/03 GMT (by LECTION at BETASVM2) Subject: Rewriting Windows Applications for OS/2 Ref: Append at 16:03:34 on 92/06/03 GMT (by WZ00541 at OS2CUST) Joel, I'm thinking of sort of a cookbook approach to this, with smattetings of sample code, etc. Would this be suitable? In the interim, if you wish to ask specific questions on this forum I will be HAPPY to answer them. David B. Lection ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 18:15:55 on 92/06/03 GMT (by TDINH at ENDVM4) - Subject: POSTSCRIPT PRINTER INSTALLED ON WINOS2 I want to convert my TEST.PM4 from PAGEMAKER 4.0 to TEST.EPS so I can use that with TEST LIST3820 on VM. To accomplish that, I tried to install APPLE LASER PRINTER on WINOS2 after I invoked WIN-OS2/Full Screen, Control Panel, click PRINTER ,... That process looked OK (asked me insert DEV disk 4, disk 3 to A:, setup to FILE , Installed Printer panel shown APPLE PRINTER under IBM PRINTER, clicked OK ...) When I got out Control Panel and came back in it, clicked PRINTER icon, APPLE PRINTER was gone from Installed Printer panel, so I cannot use it for my TEST.PM4 to TEST.EPS Am I missing something? Tom. ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 21:54:02 on 92/06/03 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Problems using MIRRORS Ref: Append at 16:21:56 on 92/06/03 GMT (by WZ00541 at OS2CUST) Joel, It nice to hear that EXTRA for PM is comming. Would it be possible to get a REAL PM app (WPS later) ? not just a MIRROR or WLO ? If you need any Beta tester,... PS: We have a corporate licence too for EXTRA. Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 17:58:33 on 92/06/04 GMT (by WZ00541 at OS2CUST) Subject: Rewriting Windows Applications for OS/2 Ref: Append at 17:28:28 on 92/06/03 GMT (by LECTION at BETASVM2) David, That approach sounds great to me. Thanks, Joel Rosenberger, Attachmate Corporation ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 13:38:42 on 92/06/05 GMT (by IL12431 at OS2CUST) Subject: Seamless Window Support Ref: Append at 22:17:17 on 92/06/02 GMT (by THRUMD at SYDVM1) I understand your point, but I think the real solution is not for IBM to find a way to front-end Windows applications but rather for the respective vendors to determine whether they should support OS/2. Most Windows users commited to that product early in its inception because it provided a uniform and predictable interface. Putting up a facade to circum- vent that intention will probably anger more people than it pleases. You really should contact the vendor(s) of your favorite apps and get their position on OS/2. Many vendors base their marketing moves on exactly that kind of feedback. Dave Scheffer, ARGO Data Resource Corp. ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 13:45:03 on 92/06/05 GMT (by IL12431 at OS2CUST) Subject: Session-specific Environment for Seamless I use an app that requires environment variables to modify its actions. I'd like to run various instances of the app in the seamless WINOS2 mode, but with different, session-specific environment variables for each instance. Is this possible? It appears that seamless mode is actually a single instance of WINOS2 and that the global AUTOEXEC controls the environment. Are my assumptions correct? If I'm currently unable to do this, will I be able to in a future release? If this is a known enhancement request, what is the status? Dave Scheffer, ARGO Data Resource Corp. ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 14:32:23 on 92/06/05 GMT (by LECTION at BETASVM2) Subject: Session-specific Environment for Seamless Ref: Append at 13:45:03 on 92/06/05 GMT (by IL12431 at OS2CUST) Dave, I think of you run each instance of your application in a separate VDM you could fashion some logic into your AUTOEXEC.BAT file that gives each VDM different environment variables. The autoexec would have some sort of counter and test logic to set the various env variables. David B. Lection ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 19:37:11 on 92/06/05 GMT (by IL12431 at OS2CUST) Subject: Session-specific Environment for Seamless Ref: Append at 14:32:23 on 92/06/05 GMT (by LECTION at BETASVM2) I'm not sure how that would work - is there a way to launch a Windows app in seamless mode from a command (either DOS or OS/2) prompt? I inferred from some of the previous appends I've read that this is not possible. The ideal solution would be something under DOS Settings, similar to the DOS_CONFIG but applicable to AUTOEXEC, that would permit users to define the user as well as session environment. Are there plans for a DOS_AUTOEXEC-type setting? Or has anyone found a method to launch a Windows app in seamless mode so that it can inherit session-specific user environments? Dave Scheffer, ARGO Data Resource Corp. ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 03:21:06 on 92/06/06 GMT (by THRUMD at SYDVM1) Subject: Session-specific Environment for Seamless Ref: Append at 19:37:11 on 92/06/05 GMT (by IL12431 at OS2CUST) Yes you can launch a seamless app from the command line, using the /WIN parameter, but I believe this will start a new instance of Windows (i.e. can't use it to start an app to execute in an existing Windows session). Dave ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 03:27:31 on 92/06/06 GMT (by THRUMD at SYDVM1) Subject: Seamless Window Support Ref: Append at 13:38:42 on 92/06/05 GMT (by IL12431 at OS2CUST) I can't agree more that native OS/2 apps is the only way for the future. Windows support under OS/2 is primarily for compatibility and migration purposes. The future of OS/2 depends on the availability of native OS/2 PM applications. Dave ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 05:33:09 on 92/06/07 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) Subject: Session-specific Environment for Seamless Ref: Append at 13:45:03 on 92/06/05 GMT (by IL12431 at OS2CUST) To get different environments, you could (as mentioned in another append) add some simple logic to the one global AUTOEXEC.BAT. To get an independent WINOS2 session, check the "Separate Session" box on the program object's Settings View->Session page. Nathan Davis ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 13:11:31 on 92/06/07 GMT (by LECTION at BETASVM2) Subject: Session-specific Environment for Seamless Ref: Append at 13:45:03 on 92/06/05 GMT (by IL12431 at OS2CUST) Dave, Here is a very simple example of a BAT file which can do what you wish. This file, each time it is run, will output: 1st Time: The name is Popeye 2nd Time: The name is OliveOil 3rd Time: The name is Brutus 4th Time: The name is Wimpy You could use this same approach to set your environment variables in a global autoexec, or create a similiar BAT that just runs the program you wish to run. Here is the BAT file: @ECHO OFF REM do GLOBAL type stuff here if .%i% == . goto inst0 if %i% == 1 goto inst1 if %i% == 2 goto inst2 if %i% == 3 goto inst3 goto xdone :inst0 set i=1 set xname=Popeye echo The name is: %xname% goto done :inst1 set i=2 set xname=OliveOil echo The name is: %xname% goto done :inst2 set i=3 set xname=Brutus echo The name is: %xname% goto done :inst3 set i=4 set xname=Wimpy echo The name is: %xname% :xdone echo All out of instances!! :done Hope this helps! David B. Lection OS/2 Entensions Development ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 17:58:03 on 92/06/09 GMT (by JVDIGUI at NYCVMIC1) Subject: AMIPRO GPS fault Hi I'm having a problem when starting AMIPRO in a WIN-OS2 session. I'm getting the following message: GPS fault: AMIPRO caused a GPS fault in SHELL.DLL at 00200:01C60. Any idease? Thanks. Jim DiGuido JVDIGUI at NYCVMIC1 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 18:05:07 on 92/06/09 GMT (by LECTION at BETASVM2) Subject: AMIPRO GPS fault Ref: Append at 17:58:03 on 92/06/09 GMT (by JVDIGUI at NYCVMIC1) Jim, This is a just an educated guess on my part, but here goes. SHELL.DLL was given by Microsoft to a number of application builders to distribute with their products to add OLE, and other functions to those products before Windows 3.1 shipped. I suspect that maybe you might now have the Windows 3.1 SHELL.DLL with you AMIPRO, whn you need the original SHELL.DLL which came with Ami? David B. Lection ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 20:10:11 on 92/06/09 GMT (by SBOA8M4 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 Support of Postscript Printers I recently acquired the ADOBE Postscript cartridges for my HP-II printer. They work fine when my PS/2 is booted in DOS but under OS/2 (Native, from a VDM, or from any Windows App) the output never appears on paper. I see data going to the printer (using the HP's panel lights and display messages) but nothing ever prints. I am using a cable with a ground wire and that wire is attached. I've installed the printer per instructions from ADOBE and have followed the steps to tell Windows about it. No luck. I've installed the printer in OS/2 as a PS printer without success (the install was fine and data goes to it but nothing appears on paper). The printer works fine without the PS cartridges. What am I missing or what have I done incorrectly? When I spoke to ADOBE, they told me the PS printer driver identified in Windows under OS/2 is an old version and that I should update to V3.4 (I think that's the correct number). Are there new versions of PS printer drivers available in OS/2 and Win-OS2? Thanks!! Dave Nagy, Talbots ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 02:27:32 on 92/06/10 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Subject: M$ Multi-Media Extensions I've gone through the Summary of the 92 appens as of today on this IConf, but I can't find one that discusses use of the Multi-Media Extensions with WINOS2. Can anyone point me to the IConf which has information about this? or can anyone tell me if the M$ MME will work with OS2? Elliott M. Avedon University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1 (519) 885-1211 x2204 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 13:43:42 on 92/06/15 GMT (by KCL0ETV at OS2CUST) Subject: GP FAULT ATM 2.0/WINDOWS 4029 DRIVER AN ALTERNATE TO DESELECTING THE "USE RESIDENT FONTS" BOX IS TO COMMENT OUT ALL THE LINES IN THE SYNONYMS SECTION OF ATM.INI. THIS WORKS FOR THE IBM 4029 DRIVER UNDER BOTH WIN-OS2 AND WINDOWS 3.0. Gene Vrana, Kloster Cruise ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 18:01:21 on 92/06/15 GMT (by RAGAN at AUSVM1) - Subject: MS Windows and CUA'91 Can someone point me in the proper direction for this question: Is MS Windows 3.1 considering moving to a CUA'91 Object-Oriented look? Currently it seems to be CUA'89. Rick Ragan, Austin, TX. ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 19:31:03 on 92/06/15 GMT (by HALLERMA at BCRVMPC1) Subject: MS Windows and CUA'91 Ref: Append at 18:01:21 on 92/06/15 GMT (by RAGAN at AUSVM1) You would need to call Microsoft to determine their plans. Certainly, they are not talking to us much anymore <grin>. Given that MS says NT will look a lot like Win 3.1, I would *guess* they are not going to migrate to CUA 91. Mel Hallerman ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 20:19:42 on 92/06/15 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) Subject: MS Windows and CUA'91 Ref: Append at 18:01:21 on 92/06/15 GMT (by RAGAN at AUSVM1) Microsoft does not think the revolutionary approach to user interface design described in CUA '91 is appropriate to the current market, and have no plans to move in that direction. They will remain CUA '89 for the time being and will probably design their own advanced interface (not CUA '91) at some time in the future. (I think I saw this on the internal NEWSCLIP forum.) If you wish to write a CUA '91-compliant application under Windows, you can get IBM SAA Common User Access Controls Library/2 for Microsoft Windows. Nathan Davis ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 21:38:30 on 92/06/15 GMT (by IL22993 at OS2CUST) Subject: GP Fault in GDI.EXE This does not need a specific response. I just wanted to report a GP fault in GDI.EXE attempting to run the Windows application, Chessmaster 3000, in seamless windows. Fault was at 0013:1BB8. The problem does not occur from WIN-OS/2 full screen. AT bus, Trident SVGA card, 512K, SVGA OFF. Thanks. George Clark ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 16:03:30 on 92/06/16 GMT (by MAGLEY at HOUVMSCC) Subject: Session-specific Environment for Seamless Ref: Append at 13:45:03 on 92/06/05 GMT (by IL12431 at OS2CUST) Dave, I have a PC/3270 for Windows setup that does what you want (I think). It runs in a separate seamless session that loads specific TSR's only in that session. The program reference settings have the "separate session" box checked and the following entered for the DOS_SHELL setting: c:\os2\mdos\command.com c:\os2\mdos /p /c c:\pc3270w\pc3270wo.bat The bat file loads my TSR's, the rest of it is covered in the COMMAND (start a DOS command processor) section of the OS/2 Command Reference. Hope this is on the right track. John Magley FSC Houston ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 17:22:58 on 92/06/16 GMT (by TJBARRO at CHGVMIC1) Subject: Session-specific Environment for Seamless Ref: Append at 13:45:03 on 92/06/05 GMT (by IL12431 at OS2CUST) Dave: Each DOS/Windows application can theoretically have its own AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS. The AUTOEXEC.BAT is system-wide, so if you load any TSRs here, they are loaded for every DOS session and every Windows session. To load a TSR for a single/unique DOS or Windows session, simply build a BAT file and use it as your program name. The CONFIG.SYS parameters are also unique for each object, simply bring up the settings notebook. For instance, here you could load an application-specific DEVICE statement that would not be loaded system-wide. In the settings notebook for an object you may notice that there is a check-box labelled SEPARATE SESSION. When migrating applicaitons by default this box is left unchecked. For all Win applications that are started with the box unchecked, they are all loaded in the same WIN-OS/2 (MVDM) session. This means is that if one of the apps goes down, that MVDM goes down. So if you have a bunch of small Windows games, run them in the same session to save on system resources. If your application is mission critical, or in your case, you want to load a unqiue TSR, check the box and that application will run in it's own WIN-OS/2 (MVDM) session. Hope this is clear and helps!! Timothy J. Barron IBM Workstation Systems Engineer TJBARRO at CHGVMIC1 Chicago Insurance Branch 098 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 20:46:17 on 92/06/16 GMT (by XXCWBD04 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Where's the new GDI.EXE? According to APAR PJ04125 and PJ03787, there are new modules: GDI.EXE and OS2K286.EXE which will fix problems running cc:Mail for Windows under OS/2. I assume this will also fix problems with other Windows applications under OS/2. Does anyone have any idea when these new modules will be available, or where I can find them if they are available? Greg Athayde Canadian Wheat Board (204) 983-3801 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 20:54:12 on 92/06/16 GMT (by XXCWBD04 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Windows applications becoming active after unlock Is anyone having a problem where you minimize all applications, lock your PC (Using the Lockup now option), when you unlock the PC, one of the Windows applications is restored and brought to the foreground? Is this normal? How does OS/2 decide which application to bring to the foreground, I am curious, because we haven't been able to figure it out? Greg Athayde Canadian Wheat Board ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 11:48:02 on 92/06/17 GMT (by CHANSM at KULVM) - Subject: WALDO errors Ref: None. Hi, I just got to know about this forum. Maybe someone can help me... I have a customer problem reported to me and it goes like this. My customer has encountered a "Waldo has caused an application error in WINOS2 GP fault in module = = gdi.exe at memory address 0001000:49AB. Press OK to close app. "while running Corel Draw V2.0 in OS/2 windows. I have not encountered any such error before. Note that my customer is running OS/2 on a compatible. Any help is appreciated. Regards Terence CHANSM at KULVM ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 04:02:26 on 92/06/19 GMT (by LINSUSAN at HKGVM8) Subject: Using Gupta SQLWindow to DDE with EXCEL for OS/2 I have a customer who is developing Gupta SQLWINDOWS application (a Windows Client/Server development tool which has its own DB server called SQLServer). He is developing this under OS/2 Version 2.0. Gupta SQLWindows has capability to communicate via DDE function calls with apps such as EXCEL, Word, etc. He can actually now "POKE" some data from a SQLWINDOWS app into a MS EXCEL (OS/2 version) spreadsheet. However, when he tried to use a call to execute a macro in EXCEL, OS/2 gives the following message : SYS3175 : A program generated an access violation at 00010fcf. EXCEL.EXE 0002. Dump message : P1 = 00000000 P2 = ffffffff P3 = xxxxxxxx P4 = xxxxxxxx EAX= 7b0a0158 EBX= 0000305b ECX= 00000ab9 EDX= 00000375 ESI= 00000054 EDI= 00000027 DS = a98f DSACC=00f3 DSLIM=00000fff ES = 06f7 ESACC=00f3 ESLIM=0000af53 FS = 150b FSACC=00f2 FSLIM=00000030 GS = dffc GSACC=00f1 GSLIM=00000023 CS:EIP=000f:00000fcf, GSACC=00fb, CSLIM=000015bf SS:ESP=06f7:00008ce4 SSACC=00f3 SSLIM=0000af53 EBP=00008cf2 FLG=00012216 What does this trap mean? If we can not use this API call in SQLWINDOWS, how else should we develop Windows applications that can execute a program in a OS/2 Windows? Use DLLs? Susan S. Lin ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 14:42:14 on 92/06/19 GMT (by 83823516 at SPAVM1) Subject:Lotus NOTES problems. I installed a Lotus NOTES Windows workstation in my PS/2 80-111 with OS/2 V 2.0. I start the NOTES program in a DOS full screen session. When the program starts, a windows shell appear with a windows for the NOTES application. I try to set up NOTES as a LAN workstation, then a prompt appear waiting for me to enter my password. My user ID file is in a directory in the LAN server that I see as N:, and the application has no problem to find it. Nevertheless after entering my password I get a message telling: "Network adapter not installed or not functioning"; so I can not access to NOTES server databases. I also tried to run NOTES from WIN-OS/2 full screen shell. Here I have to tell Windows what kind of LAN my machine is conected to. To do this I selected the Set-up icon and then the options pull-down, but there is no option that match my situation. Can any body help me having my NOTES windows workstation running? Thanks in advance. Ignacio MartÑn Soporte T⌐cnico a Concesionarios. Madrid (Spain). ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 20:03:04 on 92/06/22 GMT (by V$ISTANM at BCRVMPC1) Subject: WINOS2 Standard Mode from booted DOS. Ref: I am trying to get WINOS2 to run in standard mode in a specific DOS (3.3) booted from Drive A. I put the HIMEM.SYS and EMM386.SYS drivers in the Config.sys. If I issue WIN, get a Fatal Exit 0x0401. If I issue WIN /R all goes well. Can anyone tell me: 1) Will WINOS2 run in standard mode from a booted DOS. 2) If 1 is yes, what settings are needed. Thanks, Stan ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 20:14:26 on 92/06/22 GMT (by CNADLER at WMAVM1) Subject: WINOS2 Standard Mode from booted DOS. Ref: Append at 20:03:04 on 92/06/22 GMT (by V$ISTANM at BCRVMPC1) 1) You cannot run Windows in anything but real mode in a DOS session under OS/2 2.0. To run in standard mode, you need to use WIN-OS/2. 2) N/A Cliff Nadler Federal Sector Services Rockville, MD IBM Federal Systems Company PROFS: NADLER at WMAVM7 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 20:19:30 on 92/06/22 GMT (by WZ00541 at OS2CUST) Subject: Help conversion using Mirrors We are trying to convert help files from the Windows help engine to OS/2 help. Everytime we use the Mirrors' MIRHLP program we receive the following error message: "Error HLP0015 (XYZ.RTF): Cannot locate referenced style sheet 33." This is rather mysterious considering we do not have a style sheet 33, and OS/2 help does not cover HLP0015 message. We have examined the program 'Life' included with Mirrors. Our two help files look very similar. That help converts over just fine. Any suggestions on this error message or who else to contact would be appreciated. Thanks, Joel Rosenberger, Attachmate Corporation ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 20:45:25 on 92/06/22 GMT (by V$ISTANM at BCRVMPC1) Subject: WINOS2 Standard Mode from booted DOS. Ref: Append at 20:14:26 on 92/06/22 GMT (by CNADLER at WMAVM1) Note that in may previous append, I am trying to run WINOS2. The problem is in running from a booted DOS, not an emulated DOS. I have customers that want to run block device drivers, etc. Are they really limited to REAL mode only, or do I just have to get the memory (or other) settings right. I am using WINOS2 not Windows. Thanks, Stan. ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 21:20:09 on 92/06/22 GMT (by WCMUNDY at ATLVMIC1) Subject: Insufficient Memory in Win-OS2 when running MATHCAD 3.1 Has anyone successfully run Mathcad 3.1 under os/2 V2.0. Whenever I attempt to do this, I get an 'insufficient memory available' error msg from win-os/2. I found the FFIX reference pertaining to Mathcad, but I can't figure what type of date format they are referring to. If anyone can lend me some assistance regarding Mathcad 3.1, I would greatly appreciate it. Regards, Warren Mundy, Mobile, AL. ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 22:28:46 on 92/06/22 GMT (by V$IGBERT at AUSVM1) Subject: WINOS2 Standard Mode from booted DOS. Ref: Append at 20:45:25 on 92/06/22 GMT (by V$ISTANM at BCRVMPC1) YES you can run WINOS2 from a booted DOS. You need to make sure that the HIMEM and EMMSYS drivers in the config.sys are the ones from the \os2\mdos directory, not the original DOS ones; you need to make sure the booted VDM session has plenty of DPMI memory (more than 2MB); and you will want to execute \os2\mdos\mouse before you enter WINOS2 or else any mouse movements will crash the session. WinOS2 will come up in standard mode if it sees enough DPMI memory. Enjoy! Giovanni Bertolini (Austin App Dev Supp) ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 22:42:35 on 92/06/22 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST) Subject: NOTES problems. Ref: Append at 14:42:14 on 92/06/19 GMT (by 83823516 at SPAVM1) Ignacio, Does LOTUS Notes need NETBIOS? If so , you will wnat to run C:\IBMCOM\SETUPVDD. EXE. This will add DOS Virtual Netbios support by adding 2 line to CONFIG.SYS, Mike Long - CARD Iowa State University - PC/LAN Analyst ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 23:12:48 on 92/06/22 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: NOTES problems. Ref: Append at 22:42:35 on 92/06/22 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST) Yes , it will. If you have NOTES, you can run it's OS/2 front-end, just by installing from the diskettes. You'll get a faster respond and better resources management than if you run the win-os2 version. Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 03:38:05 on 92/06/23 GMT (by XXMINC08 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Insufficient Memory in Win-OS2 when running MATHCAD 3.1 Ref: Append at 21:20:09 on 92/06/22 GMT (by WCMUNDY at ATLVMIC1) Warren, This is just a guess ... but you probably really are running out of memory in the WINOS2 session. Note that WINOS2 thinks it is running on a machine that has as much memory as you have setup in the DPMI memory limit setting of the WINOS2 SETTINGS. This normally defaults to 2MB which I find kind of small. Try bumping the setting up to 4MB and see if this cures your problem. To do this, from the WIN-OS/2 Full Screen icon, OPEN->SETTINGS->SESSION->WINOS2 SETTINGS->DPMI Memory Limit. Good Luck. Bill Nelson Manulife Financial ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 09:38:10 on 92/06/23 GMT (by 83823516 at SPAVM1) Subject: NOTES problems. Ref: Append at 22:42:35 on 92/06/22 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST) Mike, I already run E:\IBMCOM\SETUPVDD, this put the following lines at the end of my CONFIG.SYS: DEVICE=E:\IBMCOM\PROTOCOL\LANPDD.OS2 DEVICE=E:\IBMCOM\PROTOCOL\LANVDD.OS2 but NOTES still give me the same error: "Network Adapter not installed or not functioning". Ignacio MartÑn Soporte T⌐cnico a Concesionarios Madrid (SPAIN) ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 12:04:43 on 92/06/23 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) - Subject: Insufficient Memory in Win-OS2 when running MATHCAD 3.1 Ref: Append at 21:20:09 on 92/06/22 GMT (by WCMUNDY at ATLVMIC1) We put out an OS2TNT (OS/2 2.0 Tips And Techniques) available on many BBS's, CIS, and here I think. MATHCAD 3.1 is one that needs some really odd DOS Settings. Set - DPMI_MEMORY_LIMIT to 64 XMS_MEMORY_LIMIT to 0 EMS_MEMORY_LIMIT to 0 The FFIX is for MATHCAD 3.0 and all that was telling you was that date MUST be LOWER CASE. The TSR only understands lower case. Not sure if MATHCAD 3.1 need this also or not. Irv Spalten BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 16:43:30 on 92/06/23 GMT (by V$ISTANM at BCRVMPC1) Subject: WINOS2 Standard Mode from booted DOS. Ref: Append at 22:28:46 on 92/06/22 GMT (by V$IGBERT at AUSVM1) Could someone that has gotten this to work please append the DOS settings. I have the boot disk configured to use fsfilter.sys and the memory drivers from the MDOS directory and autoexec executes the mouse command from the MDOS directory. I have set DPMI anywhere from 8 to 512 MB and played with the extended and expanded memory settings. Still, if a type WINOS2, I get "FatalExit code = 0x0401." If I type WINOS2 /R, winos2 comes up ok. Standard mode does not seem to be working and I want to verify that is does before I tell a customer that this will provide a solution to their needs. Thanks again, Stan ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 20:01:14 on 92/06/23 GMT (by V$IGBERT at AUSVM1) Subject: WINOS2 Standard Mode from booted DOS. Ref: Append at 16:43:30 on 92/06/23 GMT (by V$ISTANM at BCRVMPC1) Did you install OS/2 over an existing Windows? Your WINOS2 /s may be trying to run some actual Windows memory drivers. Check your winos2 ini files and your paths for possible problems. Another possibility (remote...) is that your swapfile is not able to provide enough space for the DPMI needed to run Standard Mode. The swapfile has a tendency to "disappear" DASD space in the event of an abnormal poweroff. Run chkdsk c: /f against your boot drive (from install diskettes) to get the space back if you see a size discrepancy between dir and chkdsk output. The only DOS settings I remember changing were the DOS_STARTUP_ DRIVE, the DOS_FILES (to 40), and the DPMI_MEMORY_LIMIT (to > 2). IT DID WORK. I was able to run DLR Windows in Standard mode, running remote named pipe windows apps. I'll send the configuration files to your reader if you like. Giovanni Bertolini ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 21:02:23 on 92/06/23 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) Subject: WinOS2 Session caused Pulse to peek and stay peeked Using Word for Windows 2.0a under it's own Win-OS2 session on an AST 486/25 with 16mb memory and an 8514 display. After printing from Word the Pulse display peeked and stayed there once I returned from the full screen WinOS2 (since I can't use seemless yet). The peek remained even after I terminated the WinOS2 session. Is this a known problem? I could find nothing on IBMLink, and I am not sure what information to gleen as I have not been able to recreate this so far today. Lionel Dyck - Rockwell International, Information Systems Center ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 22:36:55 on 92/06/23 GMT (by SAAS1W7 at OS2CUST) Subject: WINOS2 - INSUFFICIENT MEMORY running HP-SCANGAL5 This was working fine until we had a system crash. Then we had to re-install OS/2 2.0. (Deleted all refferances to OS/2 2.0 including the EADATA.SF file) Did re-install without re-formatting the drive. Now we keep getting an out of memory error from WINOS2 when we try to start SCANGAL5. HAVE DONE: Reinstalled SCANGAL5 Reinstalled WINOS2 Did a shutdown after initial re-install of OS/2 2.0. Played with many DOS and WINOS2 settings. EMS, XMS, DPMI all set to 4000+ (4meg) Nothing seems to make any difference. Anyone have some ideas? David DuPre' - Systems Analyst (Provident Life & Accident) ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 03:10:12 on 92/06/24 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Subject: WINOS2 - INSUFFICIENT MEMORY running HP-SCANGAL5 Ref: Append at 22:36:55 on 92/06/23 GMT (by SAAS1W7 at OS2CUST) I don't know if this helps, but I wasn't able to get SCANGAL5 to work at all, until I changed an addressing conflict. This was done using the reference disk. I running SCANGAL5 on an IBM mod 80. I haven't done any modifying of other parameters. However, I have a large swapdisk set aside, and SCANGAL5 makes lots of use of this. Perhaps the "memory" message relates to the size of your swapdisk since you re-installed! Elliott M. Avedon University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1 (519) 885-1211 x2204 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 17:45:12 on 92/06/24 GMT (by N002015 at OS2CUST) Subject: WINOS2 NETWORK AWARE Ref: Append at 04:22:13 on 92/05/09 GMT (by HOPKINS at AUSVM8 for TEC05 at OS2C I have experienced the same items as you've described. I am using products that front end MS SQL Server and each of those products ships with a NETAPI.DLL as well as other DLL files which are used with the MS Windows product. IBM has given you several of these DLL files under C:\OS2\DLL with the same name (ie. NETAPI.DLL). The key to overcoming the message is to make sure your products are using the OS2 DLLs, and not the Windows DLLs of the same name. You can pretty much guarantee this by having the OS2\DLL entry as one of the first entries in your CONFIG.SYS LIBPATH statement. You may also want to rename the DLL files if they reside in the directory with your purchased software. Once getting by this message, I have encountered further problems with the Windows products trapping in OS/2. Specifically I have tried using Pioneer software's Q+E, and Datura Corp's SQL Commander. If anybody has any tips on getting either of these to work under WIN-OS2, please enlighten me. Thanks. ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 21:44:45 on 92/06/24 GMT (by IL22993 at OS2CUST) Subject: WordPerfect for Windows ignored on desktop One of our users has been running for a week or so with OS/2 2.0, seamless windows, and Wordperfect for Windows with no problems. All of a sudden the WP-Win program object ignores the double-click, and the only way he can get WP to run is by opening WIN-OS/2 full screen and starting it from there. I have suggested that he delete the program reference and re-run the migrate applications. Has anyone run into this, and is there a solution to stop it from happening again? Thanks George Clark ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 22:55:41 on 92/06/24 GMT (by RHADAMS at RALVM11) Subject: Poor Performance I've installed OS/2 2.0 so I can run OS/2 applications along with my old windows applications (CORELDRAW and POWERPOINT). However, the performance of my windows applications is VERY VERY VERY VERY....SLOW..!! I have a Model 70, 20 Mhz, 14 Meg of memory and a 120 Meg hard disk. I've tried changing the XMS DOS parameters to 8 Meg and the Diskcache parameters to 2 meg, but didn't notice any difference. Without exaggerating...I think the performance is at least 1/10 of what it was with DOS and Windows 3.0. Is there anything I can do to help the windows application performance, before I reload Windows 3.0. Holt Adams ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 23:02:18 on 92/06/24 GMT (by BCFLYNN at NYCVMIC1) Subject: Poor Performance Ref: Append at 22:55:41 on 92/06/24 GMT (by RHADAMS at RALVM11) Holt, what display are you using? Brian Flynn (BCFLYNN @ NYCVMIC1) 1992/06/24 19:00 EDT ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 00:24:19 on 92/06/25 GMT (by EDCO at DAYVM2) -- Subject: Win Performance Holt, Turn off the public clipboard. You won't be able to cut and paste to and from Windows to and from DOS or OS/2 apps, but the performance will be GREATLY improved. Ed Colandra ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 16:33:35 on 92/06/25 GMT (by V$IGBERT at AUSVM1) Subject: Poor Performance Ref: Append at 22:55:41 on 92/06/24 GMT (by RHADAMS at RALVM11) o If you are running a WIN-OS/2 full-screen session and you have an 8514 display, use DOS Settings to set VIDEO_8514A_XGA_IOTRAP to OFF and VIDEO_SWITCH_NOTIFICATION to ON. I pasted this from the readme file, just in case it applies to you... MAJOR WinOS2 speedup. Giovanni Bertolini ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 18:31:24 on 92/06/25 GMT (by RHADAMS at RALVM11) Subject: Win Performance Ref: Append at 00:24:19 on 92/06/25 GMT (by EDCO at DAYVM2) Brain The display I'm using is a 8514-001. During the OS/2 installation I can remember being told that I would only be able to run WINDOWS applications in full screen mode...which is okay with me....but this might have some importance to you.......Thanks for any Help you can provide for improving my OS/2 Windows performance..!! Ed, thanks for you input also..!! Holt Adams ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 21:22:51 on 92/06/25 GMT (by IL78568 at OS2CUST) Subject: Poor Performance Ref: Append at 22:55:41 on 92/06/24 GMT (by RHADAMS at RALVM11) I don't currently use any Windows apps, but I believe that WINOS2 doesn't use EMS or XMS memory, only DPMI memory. So you might try setting EMS and XMS to zero, and DPMI memory to 8. Brooks McNeely - Martin Marietta Energy Systems, Inc. ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 02:47:39 on 92/06/27 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Poor Performance Ref: Append at 21:22:51 on 92/06/25 GMT (by IL78568 at OS2CUST) I don't know if this will be of any help to you, but I run CorelDraw OS2 version from the desktop on a mod 70. Mosaic, and Trace (although supposedly OS2 apps) need to be run as OS2WIN apps. I also run the regular DOS version of Corel under OS2 on a Toshiba Laptop (386) for classroom teaching. Both seem to be working fine, and appear to be no different! I had the DOS version on the mod 70, but switched to the OS2 version to make more use of the clipboard. One question: how big is your swapfile? Elliott M. Avedon University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1 (519) 885-1211 x2204 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 02:50:15 on 92/06/27 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Poor Performance Ref: Append at 21:22:51 on 92/06/25 GMT (by IL78568 at OS2CUST) Forgot to say that I haven't "tweaked" any of the settings that the other appends are recommending, but let OS2 do its thing with CorelDraw. Why don't you upgrade to the OS2 version? You'll have more functionality from Corel. Elliott M. Avedon University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1 (519) 885-1211 x2204 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 16:57:34 on 92/06/27 GMT (by AOI1075 at OS2CUST) Subject: NOTES problems. Ref: Append at 09:38:10 on 92/06/23 GMT (by 83823516 at SPAVM1) I believe you have to do more than just run SETUPVDD to get NetBios support. Install and run the OS/2 version of Notes. Under 2.0, you must rename (or delete) one .EXE file. Sorry, I don't remember the name, but my best guess is QNC.EXE in the Notes sub-directory. I run the OS/2 version under 2.0, and it works as well as it did under 1.3. J.Farmer IBMMAIL(USAOIXGW) ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 14:39:44 on 92/06/30 GMT (by X019347 at OS2CUST) Subject: Iram Workstation for Windows v 1.1 under win/os2 I am having a lot of problems setting IWW v 1.1 under win/os2. Does anyone out there have this working? Jim Grant ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 15:38:24 on 92/06/30 GMT (by RCMENDE at NYCVMIC1) Subject: FONT FILE ERROR My customer has written a program that runs ok in windows 3.1. When we try to run it on OS/2 2.0 in a WIN-OS2 session he gets "FONT FILE ERROR: DOSAPP.FON" where DOSAPP.FON is the name of the font. Is there documentation on this error somewhere or does anyone know what may be wrong with his font? Thanks. DICK MENDELSOHN RCMENDE AT NYCVMIC1 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 13:33:28 on 92/07/01 GMT (by SBJQ679 at OS2CUST) Subject: windows 3.1 support When might we expect support for windows 3.1? Jack Bovich Martin Marietta Bethesda MD ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 22:01:27 on 92/07/01 GMT (by JMOATES at DALHQIC2) Subject: Does MS Windows under OS/2 run with Novell Netware? I am trying to run AMWIN on the Window Full Screen session under OS/2 2.0 and receive msg: NETWARE.DLL CANNOT BE FOUND. If I look in the SETUP for the Windows Full Screen session, Netware is listed. I can successfully run the same application from Windows/DOS. What am I missing in the OS/2 world? ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 13:15:55 on 92/07/02 GMT (by SAMI3QU at OS2CUST) Subject: Does MS Windows under OS/2 run with Novell Netware? Ref: Append at 22:01:27 on 92/07/01 GMT (by JMOATES at DALHQIC2) You should at least copy NETWARE.DLL into the \OS2\MDOS\WINOS2\SYSTEM directory I don't know anything about that application, but you should probably install the product into WINOS2. If the install locates the Windows directory itself, you'll have to do something so that the install won't find your Windows/DOS directory. I had that problem with Word for Windows 2.0 so I hid all the files in my Windows/DOS directory so the install would find the WINOS2 directory. Mark Thompson - Coal Services Corp. St. Louis, MO ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 12:39:44 on 92/07/06 GMT (by AAEBC3P at OS2CUST) Subject: IRMA Workstation for Windows I entered a item on 5/19 requesting assistance with IRMA Workstation for Window s. I never received any answer. If you are having trouble with QEXEC not being able to find it's configuration file then this is the same problem. Dick Schaefer ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 14:59:29 on 92/07/06 GMT (by XXHBOE04 at TORVMCOP) Subject: pc3270 won't start-up under windows i too had this problem recently was was able to obtain a document from ibm along with some csd's which fixedc the problem. try asking your se for document # pcos-0525-92. ask about the csd's at the same time, i didn't find out about them until i read the afore mentioned document. the title of the doc. is - personel communications/3270 with os2/ ver 2.0 sample installations pcomos2 list3820. its dated may 25, 1992. this will let you run pc3270 v2.0 in an winos2 window from the os2 desktop by itself. brian riess: computer equipment coordinator hamilton board of education ibmlink id: xxhboe04 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 23:03:55 on 92/07/06 GMT (by IL15748 at OS2CUST) Subject: Windows 3.1 Applications Is there a target date for when Windows 3.1 Applications such as Powerpoint will be supported in OS/2 2.0? Steve Groesbeck, Questar Service Corp., IL15748 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 14:43:20 on 92/07/07 GMT (by IL39800 at OS2CUST) Subject: Poor Performance Ref: Append at 02:50:15 on 92/06/27 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) I am having a tough time setting up my printers for Windows. It seems that no matter what I do, I am unable to get that print job to the printer. I keep getting errors. Do you have any advice, opinions, experiences, etc. you can share with me? It sounds like you've been able to get it working real well! Your help is appreciated. Thanks! Chris Silsby, Michigan Dept. of Treasury ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 18:38:32 on 92/07/07 GMT (by TEC05 at OS2CUST) Subject: GP Fault in Module: winword.exe Hav a PS/2 mod 60 with Kensington SX now upgrade running OS/2 2.0 and extended services and Lan Requester. When attempting to load Word for Windows ver 2.0a e ither in full screen Windows or in a seamless window I get a GP Fault in Module :WINWORD.EXE at 00c6:0006. Press OK to close application. We have reloaded and the problem still happens. Have installed the new os/2 kernel and the OS2K286.e xe and still have this problem. PLEASE HELP!!!!!!! Eric Decker (919)248-8496 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 21:34:27 on 92/07/07 GMT (by U6200 at BTVLABVM) Subject: Insufficient Memory in Win-OS2 when running MATHCAD 3.1 Ref: Append at 12:04:43 on 92/06/23 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) MathCad 3.1 still requires FFIX to be installed for installation to complete properly. I was able to unzip the files manually without FFIX but then MATHCAD complained that I had not initialized it during the install. Apparently the unzip only fails when run from the install program. Gary Coryer ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 18:20:24 on 92/07/08 GMT (by IL33057 at OS2CUST) Subject: WordPerfect for Windows ignored on desktop Ref: Append at 21:44:45 on 92/06/24 GMT (by IL22993 at OS2CUST) George, I just found your item on WordPerfect for Windows not responding to a double- click. I think that we've encountered the same problem. Did you ever find a so lution? Wil Davies, California Legislative Analyst's Office ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 23:14:19 on 92/07/08 GMT (by TALLEY at DALVM41B) Subject: Windows 3.1 Applications Ref: Append at 23:03:55 on 92/07/06 GMT (by IL15748 at OS2CUST) Steve, and others who are asking when OS/2 2.0 will support Windows 3.1 Applications. IBM has not yet released a target date for this support. Support for Windows 3.1 applications is a known requirement (party line right :-) and Lee Reiswig showed us a 'beta' of this at COMDEX. I think this shows the intent but there is just no date yet. Sorry I can not be more specific. Rob Talley OS/2 Base Services and Support ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 05:10:16 on 92/07/09 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Subject: ToolBook 1.53 for Windows Just a note to indicate that I've added this app, and it runs well under WinOS2. Although the shrink wrapped box (direct from Asymetrix) says its 1.5, and the documentation says it is 1.52, there is a disk included with self extracting file that updates all the files to 1.53! The only problem I faced with installation was an error message that I had exhasted my environment variable space. OS2 system help told me how to fix it - I did - and no more errors. Elliott M. Avedon University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1 (519) 885-1211 x2204 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 17:58:20 on 92/07/09 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) Subject: QUICK HELP NEEDED - Network support thru WINOS2 We are getting the following message in a dialog box from an WINOS2 session: ----------------------------------------------------- Microsoft Network Network options will not be enabled. Disable warning when network not running. ----------------------------------------------------- What is the problem? We are trying to run a Windows program from the network which gets an error in loading the program (NETAPI.DLL). This is included in the LIBPATH. I figured that this might be due to the above message. We need some quick help here. Thanks for your assistance. P.S. We are running the IBM LAN Server version 1.3. Within WINOS2, we have chosen LAN Manager 1.X (or 100% compatible) for the network type. Tracy Pipkin, Amoco Production Company - Houston, TX, (713) 596-7720 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 12:42:19 on 92/07/10 GMT (by RHADAMS at RALVM11) Subject: Win Performance Ref: Append at 18:31:24 on 92/06/25 GMT (by RHADAMS at RALVM11) Thanks....setting the Video Dos parameters as mentioned above really worked....My performance is much better..!!! Holt Adams ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 19:20:17 on 92/07/10 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) Subject: QUICK HELP NEEDED - NamedPipes support thru WINOS2 Does WINOS2 support NamedPipes? We are trying to get an Visual Basic program to access a M$ SQL server. Does any know if this can be done? I've been told that there is a W3DBLIB.DLL file used in real DOS/Windoze to allow this to work. Any clues would be helpful. Thanks! Tracy Pipkin, Amoco Production Company - Houston, TX, (713) 596-7720 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 19:39:10 on 92/07/10 GMT (by V$IGBERT at AUSVM1) Subject: QUICK HELP NEEDED - NamedPipes support thru WINOS2 Ref: Append at 19:20:17 on 92/07/10 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) To get remote named pipes access from WinOS2, at this time you need to have DLR loaded underneath in the VDM. To do this, you need to use a booted DOS; you also need to use the virtual NetBIOS drivers instead of the LSP modules in order to share your LAN adapter with other sessions. From the booted DOS+DLR, you can start up WINOS2 in standard mode and access (not create) remote named pipes. Look in the LAN Administrator reference supplement and in the DLRWIN guide for details on how to do this. It is a little tricky, but it can be (it has been) done successfully. Feel free to contact me if you have any problems with it. Giovanni Bertolini ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 19:47:43 on 92/07/10 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) ..... OS2WIN CFORUM modified at 19:48:48 on 92/07/10 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) Subject: QUICK HELP NEEDED - NamedPipes support thru WINOS2 This APPEND was deleted at 15:48:47 on 07/10/92 EST. ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 19:48:03 on 92/07/10 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) ..... OS2WIN CFORUM modified at 19:48:34 on 92/07/10 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) Subject: QUICK HELP NEEDED - NamedPipes support thru WINOS2 This APPEND was deleted at 15:48:34 on 07/10/92 EST. ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 19:55:07 on 92/07/10 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) Subject: QUICK HELP NEEDED - NamedPipes support thru WINOS2 Ref: Append at 19:39:10 on 92/07/10 GMT (by V$IGBERT at AUSVM1) Giovanni, First of all I don't have your phone number. Second, let me see if I understand your solution correctly. I have to have a real copy of DOS in order to get this to work. We have some "pure" OS/2 folks out there who don't have DOS. So this could be a big problem if we need real DOS. If we load the DLR code, doesn't this conflict with the OS/2 requester code (at this time)? This again is a problem. Is OS/2 supposed to be "The Integrating Platform"? Third, I'll be tied up probably for the rest of the day, but I would like to discuss this with you over the phone. Please call or leave me your phone number. Thanks. Tracy Pipkin, Amoco Production Company - Houston, TX, (713) 596-7720 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 20:30:23 on 92/07/10 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) Subject: QUICK HELP NEEDED - NamedPipes support thru WINOS2 Ref: Append at 19:55:07 on 92/07/10 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) Does any know if the NETAPI.DLL in \MUGLIB\DLL is supported in WINOS2. The Visual Basic program is trying to load NETAPI.DLL but can't find it. The LIBPATH does reference \MUGLIB\DLL. I've tried using the NETAPI.DLL that comes as part of the DOS LAN Requester, but it doesn't seem to help much. Any clues? Thanks! Tracy Pipkin, Amoco Production Company - Houston, TX, (713) 596-7720 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 20:49:35 on 92/07/10 GMT (by NAAN43X at OS2CUST) Subject: Word for Windows, Excel for Windows Will the latest versions of Word for Windows and Excel for Windows run in the WIN-OS/2 in OS/2 2.0? Peter Bourboulis, Chemical Bank ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 23:15:09 on 92/07/10 GMT (by V$IGBERT at AUSVM1) Subject: QUICK HELP NEEDED - NamedPipes support thru WINOS2 Ref: Append at 19:55:07 on 92/07/10 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) I appreciate your frustration, believe me. You understood my solution correctly -- my information is that there's a (known, being worked on) bug in the emulated DOS; and until a fix is released, the workaround is to boot a specific DOS and DLR in the VDM in order to access remote named pipes from DOS. There's NO conflict between OS/2 requester and DLR provided that (1) the NETBIOS virtual device drivers are used instead of LAN Support Program, and (2) the DLR is started with a different machine id and userid than the OS/2 requester. Multiple DLRs can concurrently independantly access the LAN from different VDMs, using the same LAN adapter. This is documented in the LAN Server 2.0 Network Administrator Reference Supplement, in chapter 5. I can be reached at (512) 823-2309 (Austin). Giovanni Bertolini ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 00:02:59 on 92/07/11 GMT (by AMXD031 at OS2CUST) Subject: Word for Windows, Excel for Windows Ref: Append at 20:49:35 on 92/07/10 GMT (by NAAN43X at OS2CUST) Excel 4.0 and Word Perfect for Windows (1.0A?) have been running very well under WINOS2 for a month or so. There was one crash (the entire full screen Windows session) when loading WP Win in addition to Excel with 18 or so linked spreadsheets. Some messageabout lack of a resource preceded the crash. But, that was over a week ago and it hasn't reoccurred. Jon Androvich ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 00:04:24 on 92/07/11 GMT (by AMXD031 at OS2CUST) Subject: Word for Windows, Excel for Windows Ref: Append at 20:49:35 on 92/07/10 GMT (by NAAN43X at OS2CUST) Oops! Ignore WP Win in last response. I also run Word version 2.0A without problems. Jon Androvich ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 01:48:48 on 92/07/12 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) Subject: Win-OS2 switch back to Desktop is sllloooowwwwwww I have a problem where I am using a win-os2 applications (pick one) and when I switch back to the desktop by clicking on the desktop icon, the delay can be upto 20 seconds. I am using an AST Bravo 486/25 with 16mb ram and enough hard drive for swap. Also using an ATI Ultra 8514 card for 8514 display resolution - which means no seemless windows (yet). IBM Level 2 has not been able to recreate the problem from my ETR. Has anyone else experience this problem...? Any suggestions...? I have all the appropriate config.sys values and made the appropriate settings according to IBM level 2 so I am open. If others have this problem it could also help to identify the cause and get a fix for us. Hardware: AST Bravo 486/25 16mb ram, IBM Token Ring Card Seagate ST1144A (120mb) hard disk (20mb partition for swap - FAT) 3.5 inch 1.44mb and 5.25 inch 1.2mb floppies Logitech PS/2 Trackman mouse ATI Ultra 8514 video card w/1mb ram Software: OS/2 2.0 GA (with kernel fixes installed) 3 FAT partitions ES 1.0 Communications Manager installed (5 host sessions) TCP/IP 1.2.1 for OS/2 (using Routed, Nfsd, ftpd, Sendmail, LaMail) Pulse and Clock active OS/2 2.0 Lan Requestor 3 active OS/2 Windows This problem occurs whenever I have a Win-OS2 session (session or full-screen) and attempt to switch back to the desktop. This happens with 'vanila' Win-OS2 Program Manager and no other window programs active as well as with Windows programs active (pick one: Word for Windows 2.0a, Micrographix Draw, AfterDark 2.0) Thanks for any suggestions. Lionel Dyck - Rockwell International, Information Systems Center ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 15:29:28 on 92/07/13 GMT (by HEYWOOD at DALVM41B) Subject: Win-OS2 switch back to Desktop is sllloooowwwwwww Ref: Append at 01:48:48 on 92/07/12 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) Lionel, I have noticed the same behaviour on my home machine (Standard Computer 486/33 with 16mb and the ATI Graphics Ultra). I will report the problem when I get home tonight (I need to get all the required details of my machine configuration). Patrick Heywood - TeamOS2 - Gaithersburg ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 15:41:05 on 92/07/13 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST) Subject: Win-OS2 switch back to Desktop is sllloooowwwwwww Ref: Append at 15:29:28 on 92/07/13 GMT (by HEYWOOD at DALVM41B) Lionel, There is a problem there. I have: Gateway 486 DX2/50 ATI Ultra 16MB 340 Adaptec SCSI Return to Desktop: 13-22 seconds. Ugly! Dan Lundy Time Customer Service, Inc. Tampa, Fl ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 22:57:33 on 92/07/13 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8) Subject: Win-OS2 switch back to Desktop is sllloooowwwwwww Ref: Append at 01:48:48 on 92/07/12 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) It seems like the common thread here is the ATI Ultra. I did a search on this and found some interesting APAR's. None exactly like the slow switch problem being described, but close enough and serious enough to be suspicious. One is an Information APAR II06061. It mentions a number of video problems, three of which may apply to this problem. These are: 1. "Old" Tseng chips on board - must be level TC6059A or higher. 2. Special CONFIG.SYS set up needed for ATI Ultra, see APAR II06061. 3. Special ATI patch needed/available from ATI (phone number in II06061). There is more detail on this in APAR PJ04608. Access these APAR's using your Search Service (first menu after logon for "WZ" BBS users, regular ServiceLink for IBMLink "IL" users). Use the APAR number (one at a time) as the search string to locate each APAR. Hope this helps! Stephen Poole OS/2 Service and Support - IBM Austin, TX ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 02:57:18 on 92/07/15 GMT (by OHKADO at TOKVMSDC) Subject: Win-OS2 switch back to Desktop is sllloooowwwwwww Ref: Append at 01:48:48 on 92/07/12 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) With my no name 486/33 + ATI Graphics Ultra, I had similar problem when I set WINOS2 as OS/2 Tips and Techniques recommends. But with VIDEO_8514A_XGA_IOTRAP=ON VIDEO_SWITCH_NOTIFICATION=OFF I can now switch back to desktop from fullscreen WINOS2 in reasonable time (1 or 2 sec). As far as I have tried, above combination gives the best results. Akira Ohkado - IBM Japan ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 12:49:56 on 92/07/15 GMT (by PRCI051 at OS2CUST) Subject: Wired for Sound locks up OS/2 Entirely I thought I'd sprinkle a little fun into my OS/2 world and purchased a relatively new program called "Wired For Sound / Pro" that works with Windows 3.0 and 3.1 to let you add sounds to various events. Unfortunately, it locked up OS/2 completely, not even mouse movement (which I usually still have unless I get a trap). This happened after the install, when I clicked on its program icon to check it out. And since the install added a load= into the win.ini, my machine then locked up after boot(it started WinOS2). I am still using a fat partition, so I just took the load= out while booted under DOS. Now I can boot OS/2 again, but this app will lock up OS/2 if I ever kick it off. FYI, the program is supposed to support the Internal Speaker, Disney Sound Source, and the ever popular Sound Blaster. But since I can't even get it started, I don't know how well they work. I am launching the default Full Screen Win-OS2 icon, so maybe some DOS settings will help me out, but I think it is a more serious problem than that. Any help would be appreciated. Andrew Behm - Progressive Insurance ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 13:25:25 on 92/07/15 GMT (by LECTION at BETASVM2) Subject: Wired for Sound locks up OS/2 Entirely Ref: Append at 12:49:56 on 92/07/15 GMT (by PRCI051 at OS2CUST) Andrew, I have a copy of this program, and it runs on Windows and works well with the disney sound source, and my pro audio spectrum card (in Soundblaster mode). Anyway, one annoying side effect was the program turning off all interrupts while it played a sound. I think this might be causing your OS/2 hang. I don't have the manual handy for WFS, but I seem to remember a switch that would allow to tell WFS not to turn off interrupts, and that fixed the problem. I would call WFS's tech support and ask them how to set that switch by editing WIN.INI directly. David B. Lection ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 19:23:40 on 92/07/15 GMT (by NAAN43X at OS2CUST) Subject: fatal error (no text entered) Peter Bourboulis, Chemical Bank ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 19:46:53 on 92/07/15 GMT (by NAAN43X at OS2CUST) Subject: fatal error WHEN I START A WIN-OS2 SESSION THE DOS FULL SCREEN STARTS AND THEN I SEE THE MESSAGE "FATAL ERROR " AND THEN THE SCREEN DISAPPEARS AND RETURNS TO COMMAND PROMPTS. DOES ANYONE KNOW THE CAUSE OF THE ERROR AND HOW IT MAY BE CORRECTED. Peter Bourboulis, Chemical Bank ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 19:55:24 on 92/07/15 GMT (by GOBEILLE at WSCVM) Subject: fatal error Ref: Append at 19:46:53 on 92/07/15 GMT (by NAAN43X at OS2CUST) When I used to get this, it was because somehow the real windows code was being run instead of winos2. Usually - I was running from the windows directory instead of the winos2 directory or the windows code was in my PATH statement in my AUTOEXEC.BAT Janet Gobeille ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 20:03:17 on 92/07/15 GMT (by TEC05 at OS2CUST) Subject: fatal error Ref: Append at 19:55:24 on 92/07/15 GMT (by GOBEILLE at WSCVM) I had a problem like this, I replaced the os2k286.exe file and that appeared to fix the problem. The Atlanta BBS has it I think. If not you might want to talk to your IBM rep. Eric Decker ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 14:33:24 on 92/07/16 GMT (by IL61500 at OS2CUST) ..... OS2WIN CFORUM modified at 19:16:32 on 92/07/16 GMT (by IL61500 at OS2CUST) Subject: WIN *.HLP FILES This APPEND was deleted at 15:16:32 on 07/16/92 EST. ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 16:11:40 on 92/07/16 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) Subject: Win-OS2 switch back to Desktop is sllloooowwwwwww Ref: Append at 02:57:18 on 92/07/15 GMT (by OHKADO at TOKVMSDC) I have tried setting the iotrap/on and switch/off and it did not cause any change in what I experienced. Oh well... Lionel Dyck - Rockwell International, Information Systems Center ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 17:31:35 on 92/07/16 GMT (by IL61500 at OS2CUST) Subject: PRINT FULL *.HLP FILE? HELLO ALL... DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO PRINT AN ENTIRE *.HLP WINDOWS HELP FILE? IT SEEMS THE MENU ONLY ALLOWS PRINTING ONE TOPIC AT A TIME. THANKS, LOU LOU BREIT, DEAN WITTER REYNOLDS ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 15:53:49 on 92/07/17 GMT (by WRIGHTDR at WINVMB) Subject: Optimum Settings for a new Windows Product Ref: I am writing a README file for a Windows product we are about to ship I wish to give advice in the file about running the product in Win-OS2, for example the DOS settings to use (the product has not been included in the migration database). What advice should I give re memory settings etc I expect that machine size will affect the settings. For the record we are producing a 32 bit mutli threaded version for release later this year. Derek Wright ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 16:49:47 on 92/07/19 GMT (by IL13010 at OS2CUST) Subject: error finding apps dll's on netware server I am trying to run window applications off a netware server ( Wordperfect for windows, Excel40). I mapped a drive to these apps and migrated them into winos2, which seemed to work fine. However, when I try to start one I get errors finding various dll files. How does winos2 look for dll's?? Brian C. Bates, Morton International Automotive SafetyProducts ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 19:17:46 on 92/07/19 GMT (by BCFLYNN at NYCVMIC1) Subject: error finding apps dll's on netware server Ref: Append at 16:49:47 on 92/07/19 GMT (by IL13010 at OS2CUST) Brian, some apps move some of their DLL's into WINDOWS/SYSTEM subdir during install. WP4WIN moves OLECLI, OLSSRV and SHELL DLL's into WINDOWS/SYSTEM. These are not migrated by winos2...you must move them yourself into OS2/MDOS/WINOS2/SYSTEM. My experience is not on a LAN but check to see if the DLL's they are looking for ARE in the WINOS2 structure. Brian Flynn (BCFLYNN @ NYCVMIC1) 1992/07/19 15:14 EDT ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 23:32:20 on 92/07/19 GMT (by THRUMD at SYDVM1) Subject: Optimum Settings for a new Windows Product Ref: Append at 15:53:49 on 92/07/17 GMT (by WRIGHTDR at WINVMB) The most important setting is probably the amount of DPMI memory. Default is 2Mb, I think, which is probably insufficient for a large complex application (PAS I presume?). A complicating factor is that if you run multiple apps in the same VDM, you need enough DPMI memory for all the apps. Maybe what you need to do is determine how much your app requires, and say that this needs to be added to existing requirements if you will be running it in the same WINOS2 session as other apps. Dave ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 15:51:17 on 92/07/20 GMT (by QSAEED at DALHQIC2) Subject: Alternative of FindWindow Windows call in OS/2 2.0. Does anyone know of a similar call to Windows FindWindow call in OS/2 2.0. If not is there any way to find if a window exists without going through all the windows, which exist at that point. Thanks in advance. Qaiser Saeed. ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 17:09:51 on 92/07/20 GMT (by TKELLERM at ENDVMTKL) Subject: Word for Windows, Excel for Windows Ref: Append at 20:49:35 on 92/07/10 GMT (by NAAN43X at OS2CUST) I am currently running both of these programs in a WIN-OS2 session. the versions are Excel 4.0 for windows and Word 2.0a for windows. Tom Kellerman ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 17:47:37 on 92/07/20 GMT (by IL33057 at OS2CUST) Subject: error finding apps dll's on netware server Brian, We are able to get this to work with PageMaker on the network simply by adding the directory that holds the DLLs to the the PATH statement in C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT. (Apparently, each WIN-OS2 session uses the same AUTOEXEC.BAT.) I don't know if there are other more efficient solutions. By the way, we aren't using Netware (and I don't know anything about it), so it's possible that there is some additional twist in your case. Wil Davies, California Legislative Analyst's Office ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 01:08:19 on 92/07/21 GMT (by ROK2070 at OS2CUST) Subject: Running Word for Windows under OS/2 One of our new OS/2 2.0 users is having trouble with Word for Windows - here is his message - can anyone help him? My new problem is that I can no longer run Word for Windows from OS/2. When I try to start the program the system asks for a file SHELL.DLL that does not exist. The problem is the same if I click on the Word icon or if I start WinOS2 and try to start Word from it. I have used Word for Windows in OS/2 without any trouble before. I noted this problem after I installed the new OS2KRNL file, but I can not be sure that there is a connection. Furthermore, I went back reinstalling the old OS2KRNL and the problem did not go away. Could you post this question on the bullettin board? Ron Palmer, Rockwell International, Rocketdyne Division ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 12:09:50 on 92/07/21 GMT (by XXCDSX26 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Running Word for Windows under OS/2 Ref: Append at 01:08:19 on 92/07/21 GMT (by ROK2070 at OS2CUST) Ron: Are you sure that you didn't do more than install the new kernel? Anyway, you are actually missing 4 files - SHELL.DLL, 2 OLE*.* and REG.DAT. These files are placed in your Windows directory by W4W. Thus, if you installed W4W through WINOS2 they should be there. If, however, you migrated W4W you have to copy them over from your WINDOWS and WINDOWS\SYSTEM directories. Alternatively just reinstall W4W through WINOS2. Migrate did not copy them as these files are actually Win3.1 files to support OLE. M$ put them in some products (so did some other vendors, e.g. Lotus with Amipro) to give them OLE capabilities before 3.1 was released. Michael Harper - Cdn Depository for Securities, Ltd ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 14:32:46 on 92/07/21 GMT (by TKELLERM at ENDVMTKL) Subject: Optimizing WIN-OS2 session Ref: Append at 12:09:50 on 92/07/21 GMT (by XXCDSX26 at TORVMCOP) How do I optimize my system to run windows applications faster? I have a PS/2 model 80 with 10 Meg memory. I am using an 8514/a and am running OS/2 in High resolution. I therfore am using Win-OS2 full screen to run my windows applications. The applications that I am running seem to run very slow. I use EXCEL and Word for Windows. I have increased the DPMI memory limit to 4. Is there any other settings that I can change to optimize? I also understand that the windows clipboard can be set to private to enable faster cut and paste in programs such as EXCEL. I have done this, and thought it does speed up things, it still seems slower than running under straight Microsoft windows. Thanks for any help you can provide. Tom Kellerman ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 17:12:02 on 92/07/21 GMT (by AT at VIA) ----- Subject: Help please printing hlp files Hello folks, Can anyone please advise me how to print an entire *.hlp file from Win/Os2? I can only print one topic at a time. Thanks!!! Lou Lou Breit, Dean Witter Reynolds...New York ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 18:02:29 on 92/07/21 GMT (by USBC238 at OS2CUST) Subject: 8514/a and seamless Windows This has probably been asked elsewhere, however I could not find any references to it in any other forums: When will 2.0 and seamless windows be supported on an 8514/a adapter? I need to know because some of our developers want to go to Win 3.1 or NT instead of OS/2 2.0 Charles Boyce - US Bank, Portland OR ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 18:30:37 on 92/07/21 GMT (by TALLEY at DALVM41B) Subject: Optimizing WIN-OS2 session Ref: Append at 14:32:46 on 92/07/21 GMT (by TKELLERM at ENDVMTKL) Since you are using the 8514/A you use the DOS Settings and set: VIDEO_8514A_XGA_IOTRAP OFF VIDEO_SWITCH_NOTIFICATION ON Hope this helps Rob Talley OS/2 Base Services Support ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 19:24:14 on 92/07/21 GMT (by TKELLERM at ENDVMTKL) Subject: Optimizing WIN-OS2 session Ref: Append at 18:30:37 on 92/07/21 GMT (by TALLEY at DALVM41B) OK. I did this. The screen seems to scroll a lot faster in EXCEL. And, it did seem to speed things up. Only thing is now, when I click on the DEsktop ICON in the WIN-OS2 session, it delays for quite some time, with no activity (no disk drive light), before changing to the desktop. If I do alt-esc, it changes over just fine. Is this just something that I am going to have to live with? Thanks for your help. Tom Kellerman ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 02:20:09 on 92/07/22 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Is it possible that only some CDROM files are bad? I've installed CorelDraw 3.0. (DOS-WIN) under OS2. It seems to work fine, however... there are 2500+ clipart files on the CDROM that came with the package - and the program can only read some of the clipart files. That's the basis of my question. Many of the clipart files open without issue, while others produce such errors as "sector not found", "error in opening file", etc. Is it possible for a CDROM disk to be both good and bad? When I ask for a directory in an OS2 window, the system is able to read all of the directories. Actually, I did the install of the of the program package from this CDROM. I don't think this is an OS2 problem - but... Has anyone else experienced a bad CDROM disk? Elliott M. Avedon University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1 (519) 885-1211 x2204 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 13:40:24 on 92/07/22 GMT (by KIP at RALVM11) -- Subject: Insufficient Memory in Win-OS2 when running MATHCAD 3.1 I have MATHCAD 3.1 installed under Win-OS2 and yes I have set DPMI_MEMORY_LIMIT to 64. The first time I run it, it starts up fine. However if I exit Mathcad and then later restart it, I get the "Insufficient memory ...." message. I have tried increasing the DPMI_MEMORY_LIMIT further to no avail. Also I have tried closing the OS2 DDE and Clipboards before restarting as well as increasing (and decreasing) the DPMI limit even further, all with luck. Also I have tried MAVDM and SAVDM with no change in results. The only way I have been able to restart MATHCAD is to reboot. This one really surprises me since I would have assumed nothing gets left after you close a VDM but apparently there is some interaction. Any suggestions, comments, thoughts? Help! Kip Potter ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 14:39:15 on 92/07/22 GMT (by IL63537 at OS2CUST) Subject: WINOS2 Network Aware I am trying to configure WINOS2 to recognize our OS/2 2.0 LAN When I try to change system settings under options under WIN-OS/2 setup and select "LAN MANAGER 2.0 Enhanced" the system prompts me to put the OS/2 installation disk in drive a which I do but the system does not recognize the diskette. Any suggestions or comments on how to get WINOS2 to recognize our LAN? ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 15:45:14 on 92/07/22 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) - Subject: Insufficient Memory in Win-OS2 when running MATHCAD 3.1 Ref: Append at 13:40:24 on 92/07/22 GMT (by KIP at RALVM11) The memory comes from somewhere, and that is the disk. You probably ran out of space on the swap disk, so it is truely out of memory. Irv Spalten BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 18:03:03 on 92/07/22 GMT (by V$IGBERT at AUSVM1) Subject: WINOS2 Network Aware Ref: Append at 14:39:15 on 92/07/22 GMT (by IL63537 at OS2CUST) What works is to install DLR 2.0, load it into a booted DOS VDM using the virtual Netbios DD instead of LSP, launch WinOS2 from it, and set up for DLR Windows. See the LAN Administrator Reference Supplement and the DLR Windows Guide for details. You do NOT need to go through this setup if you just want WinOS2 to use LAN resources accessed through the OS/2 side, as these will appear as local resources from within a WinOS2 session. Giovanni Bertolini ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 18:36:41 on 92/07/22 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Subject: Insufficient Memory in Win-OS2 when running MATHCAD 3.1 Ref: Append at 13:40:24 on 92/07/22 GMT (by KIP at RALVM11) -- Hello kip, I also have the same problem you described. If you start Mathcad 3.1 first you can not start other Win-OS2 programs. If you try to start Mathcad 3.1 a second time, after closing, you will get a memory full error. In fact I found that when you close Mathcad the ICON will remain with hash marks through the ICON (ACTIVE). There is no normal way to close it. I use the following trick to run Mathcad and to be able to close it 1. Activate the MS-WINDOW clock (you can minimize it to free the screen) 2. Startup Mathcad. When your done using Mathcad, close Mathcad (Exit) notice that even though it is close the icon is still showing active Next bring back the MS-clock. Close the clock. Once the clock is closed you will see that both Icons are deactived. This is how I worked around the problem. Mathcad, for reasons I don't understand affect or is effected by other seemless WIN-OS2 sessions. I called IBM and Mathcad about this problem but got no real answer. I do suggest that everyone using Mathcad in OS/2 call the MAthcad company and request that an OS/2 version be created. If you don't call they will never change. It might help if you say you would swtich to programs that do support the OS/2 operating system. Jerry Sitbon (718) 357-4369 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 19:32:33 on 92/07/22 GMT (by IL63537 at OS2CUST) Subject: WINOS2 Network Aware Thank you for the information on WINOS2 it helped to "clear" things up. I will try what you have suggested. Again,Thank you! ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 21:21:52 on 92/07/22 GMT (by KIP at RALVM11) -- Subject: Insufficient Memory in Win-OS2 when running MATHCAD 3.1 Ref: Append at 15:45:14 on 92/07/22 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Ref: Append at 13:40:24 on 92/07/22 GMT (by KIP at RALVM11) Swap space shouldn't be a problem since I have 100MB free on my E: drive with SWAPPATH=E:\. Any other suggestions? ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 00:10:30 on 92/07/23 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST) Subject: Insufficient Memory in Win-OS2 when running MATHCAD 3.1 Ref: Append at 15:45:14 on 92/07/22 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) - I have no experience with Mathcad at all, but I disagree with your suggestion that the system is really out of memory! I have gotten such messages since the day that I installed OS/2, the most recent being the "PMV2001" message from WPS stating that I must shut down applications to continue. With 10 MB of memory, I do not expect this message when all that I'm running is LAN Server 2.0 and the system editor. There are some real memory management issues here, such as why aren't the resources restored when the session is ended - this is supposed to be in a "virtual machine". The work-around as provided by Jerry Sitbon clearly illustrates that this is not a legitimate error message - it is a bug. Chris Knoell (MGH) ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 00:19:17 on 92/07/23 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST) Subject: AMIPRO IN WINOS2 I'm having problems using Ami Professional (V. 2) from Lotus. I called Lotus and they told me that it was a known bug in the OS/2 kernel and has been identified as APAR PJ03812. The bottom buttons for Style, Font, etc do not work correctly. If we are to have an alternative to Microsoft products - they must operate correctly in WINOS2! An addtional problem is that child windows from Ami show up in the Window list - requiring that Ami be run in a separate Windows session from other applications - cannot kill these "processes". The only way to be rid of them is to end that WINOS2 session. I suggest anyone else that has had this experience make your voice heard, as it is the only way to get IBM's attention and to get this fixed. Chris Knoell (MGH) ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 14:14:53 on 92/07/23 GMT (by HAMMOND at RCHVMV) Subject: Insufficient Memory in Win-OS2 when running MATHCAD 3.1 Ref: Append at 21:21:52 on 92/07/22 GMT (by KIP at RALVM11) Have you tried increasing the DPMI setting? How about setting it to run in its own WINOS2 session rather than an shared one? Pat Hammond ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 16:12:58 on 92/07/23 GMT (by WZ00533 at OS2CUST) Subject: Public Clipboard Fix I just returned from an excellent FTN titled OS/2 2.0 Performance in the End User Enviornment. I won't go into details but I suggest you contact your SE for a copy. Suffice it to say it was a great response to the recent Microsoft adds detailing OS/2 2.0 vs Windows 3.1 performance. During the FTN a reference was made to a fix for the performance problems with having a 'public' clipboard when running Windows appilcations. Has anyone else heard of such a fix? Thanks, Dave Ferrey - Bethlehem Steel Corp - Bethlehem PA ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 18:57:06 on 92/07/23 GMT (by ROK2070 at OS2CUST) Subject: Running Word for Windows under OS/2 Ref: Append at 12:09:50 on 92/07/21 GMT (by XXCDSX26 at TORVMCOP) Thanks for the information - here is the response from the user: This was great! Three of the four files were indeed missing. I copied them and I got back Word. I don't know how I lost them in two computers. It must be something else I did other than installing OS2KRNL. Ron Palmer, Rockwell International, Rocketdyne Division ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 23:16:44 on 92/07/23 GMT (by PTCI024 at OS2CUST) Subject: WIN-OS/2 GP Fault - Running WordPerfect for Windows (no text entered) Dave Williams Pacific Telecom ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 23:19:57 on 92/07/23 GMT (by PTCI024 at OS2CUST) Subject: WIN-OS/2 GP Fault when using WordPerfect for Windows I am getting a GP Fault in WPWINFIL.EXE at 0001:0031 specifically with Word- Perfect for Windows. In general I cannot get any Windows applications to run. When I installed OS/2, my Windows V3.1 applications/games were migrated. Now none of them work. What gives? Dave Williams Pacific Telecom ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 03:22:46 on 92/07/24 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST) Subject: WIN-OS/2 GP Fault when using WordPerfect for Windows Ref: Append at 23:19:57 on 92/07/23 GMT (by PTCI024 at OS2CUST) The wp for win problem sounds like you need the maintenance release of wp for win that wp released this spring. Give WP a call on that - or you can run the c:\os2\mdos\winos2\fixwp.exe program on your WPWINFIL.EXE. You DO NOT want to migrate or use any 3.1 features in OS/2 - like migrating the windows desktop or any of 3.1's applets. OS/2's WINOS2 is at the 3.0 level so the applets will not run. You will need 3.0 version applets. Good luck Mike Long - CARD Iowa State University - PC/LAN Analyst ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 13:56:01 on 92/07/24 GMT (by WOODARDC at FSHVMX) ..... OS2WIN CFORUM modified at 14:39:10 on 92/07/28 GMT (by WOODARDC at FSHVMX) Subject: AMIPRO IN WINOS2 Ref: Append at 00:19:17 on 92/07/23 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST) | Deleted by appender. |Wrong forum Chuck @ FSHVMX ***Team OS/2 E.F.*** ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 14:21:59 on 92/07/24 GMT (by HALLERMA at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Public Clipboard Fix Ref: Append at 16:12:58 on 92/07/23 GMT (by WZ00533 at OS2CUST) The "public clipboard" performance fix is described in the OS2TNT (Tips and Techniques) document that is available for downloading. Mel Hallerman ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 15:56:25 on 92/07/24 GMT (by MCI1078 at OS2CUST) Subject: Windows 3.1 Migration Problems Okay, so now that I've completely installed all modules of OS/2 2.0 (Base, ES & LAN Server) I find out that Windows 3.1 apps don't migrate properly. Not only can I not run ANY of my Windows apps, but I get the GP fault error with WordPer fect for Windows. So what do I do now? Must I dual-boot to DOS and reinstall Windows 3.0 in orde r to get my Windows apps to work? Suggestions? Ed Lefkowitz - MCI Arlington, VA ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 16:01:21 on 92/07/24 GMT (by NAAO3IY at OS2CUST) Subject: Public Clipboard Fix Ref: Append at 14:21:59 on 92/07/24 GMT (by HALLERMA at BCRVMPC1) No, what Ginny Roarabaugh (hmmm.... I wonder if I'm the first person ever to make _practical_ use of the flamingo screen) said on the FTN was that there is a _code_ fix that should render the need to make the clipboard private unnecessary. John Kennedy -- Hoechst Celanese, Bridgewater, NJ ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 16:15:33 on 92/07/24 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Subject: Public Clipboard Fix Ref: Append at 16:01:21 on 92/07/24 GMT (by NAAO3IY at OS2CUST) Hello; I had Windows 3.1 and window programs. I decided that since I am running OS/2, window application programs and not windows 3.1, it was easier to remove Windows 3.1 and my window applications. Once they are removed, reinstall the application from OS/2 win-os2. I found nearly all the programs ran correctly and you gain more disk space. I also run Wordperfect for windows. There are two ways to go to make it work. 1) If it is the original version you need to run a fix program (see the OS/2 read me file) 2) The best thing is to get the newest update from WP. The program will run, unmodified in OS/2 and has many of the bugs in WP fixed. This may not be the answer of choice but it works. Hopefully all window apps will be offered in OS/2 32 bit form and we will no longer need MS-windows. (Great !!!!). Jerry Sitbon (718) 357-4369 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 16:24:57 on 92/07/24 GMT (by WZ00533 at OS2CUST) Subject: Public Clipboard Fix Ref: Append at 14:21:59 on 92/07/24 GMT (by HALLERMA at BCRVMPC1) Mel, I consider the 'fix' in the readme a work around. Unless I missed some thing, the 'fix' neuters the clipboard, to quote: "Setting it to PRIVATE means that it can be used in the single Windows environment only." Yes? No? Dave Ferrey - Bethlehem Steel Corp - Bethlehem PA ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 16:59:33 on 92/07/24 GMT (by HALLERMA at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Public Clipboard Fix Ref: Append at 16:24:57 on 92/07/24 GMT (by WZ00533 at OS2CUST) Correct. It can be used in that WINOS2 session by all applications started under that session. I was not aware there was an actual fix available. Mel Hallerman ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 17:43:38 on 92/07/24 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST) Subject: AMIPRO IN WINOS2 Ref: Append at 13:56:01 on 92/07/24 GMT (by WOODARDC at FSHVMX) I don't understand what you mean! Are you indicating this will be solved when the 32-bit graphics engine is released? I'm currently using the latest kernel available on this BBS, but will be going back to the GA version because it has caused mre serious problems than it solved! Lotus only told me that it was not something they could fix - it was a known problem in the current OS/2 Windows implementation. Chris Knoell (MGH) ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 18:29:21 on 92/07/24 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) - Subject: Public Clipboard Fix Ref: Append at 16:24:57 on 92/07/24 GMT (by WZ00533 at OS2CUST) There is a fix, and it spans 2 diskettes and is 2 MB in size. Rather than allow it to be downloaded and then hear all about how big it is, we have not made it available externally. Call the 800#. Irv Spalten BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 23:31:19 on 92/07/25 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) ..... OS2WIN CFORUM modified at 21:54:32 on 92/07/31 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) Subject: Public Clipboard Fix Can someone identify the APAR, PTF, or ? for this fix so that we can order it from the support center...? Thanks. ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 01:52:40 on 92/07/27 GMT (by IL22993 at OS2CUST) Subject: WIN application problems I could use some assistance or words of wisdom on configuring a couple of WIN applications. 1) ChessMaster 3000 runs fine when either started directly from WinOS2, or started from the desktop in a WinOS2 full screen. When started as a seamless win application, it takes a GP Fault in Module: GDI.EXE at 0013:1BAB. Is anyone running this from seamless windows, and/or has this been reported? 2) Running Word for Windows. Again, it runs ok from WinOS2, and as a WinOS2 full screen app from the desktop. Starting is as a seamless windows app results in a cross-hatched program object, but nothing starts, and nothing shows up on the task list. Had to reboot to "close" the unopened app. This app was migrated using the default database. Any suggestions would be appreciated... Thanks. George Clark, Norton Company ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 12:11:04 on 92/07/27 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) Subject: Public Clipboard Fix Ref: Append at 18:29:21 on 92/07/24 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) - Irv, I guess I don't understand the purpose of this library if you aren't willing to put all fixes here. I thought that the CSDs were going to be downloadable from here too. I would expect the CSDs to be much greater than 2Megs. I would encourage IBM to be consistent with the bug fixes. If the file is large, so be it - just make the user aware of this fact before attempting to download. Tracy Pipkin, Amoco Production Company - Houston, TX, (713) 596-7720 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 13:38:58 on 92/07/27 GMT (by PRCI051 at OS2CUST) Subject: Wired for Sound locks up OS/2 Entirely I contacted the Tech Support dept. for Aristosoft's Wired for Sound Pro who assured me there was nothing I could do to get it to work under OS/2 2.0. Apparently they feel the way they go after hardware wouldn't fly under the protected environment. Anyway, it's over my head. They said there were no changes that I could make to the win.ini to "enable interrupts". I'll just have to wait for a similar product utilizing the Multimedia extensions for OS/2. sigh... Andrew Behm - Progressive Insurance ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 15:04:30 on 92/07/27 GMT (by PNWB016 at HONE83) Subject: Public Clipboard Fix Ref: Append at 12:11:04 on 92/07/27 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) Tracy: I agree... if a fix is available from the 800 number then it should be available here. Wayne "But what about MY fixes?" Holmes U S WEST Communications ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 16:11:07 on 92/07/27 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST) Subject: Public Clipboard Fix Ref: Append at 12:11:04 on 92/07/27 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) Tracy, From what I've been told by IBMers there will be NO CSD's for OS/2 2.0. Selective fixes are the only fixes that are to be provided between versions. The good news is that OS/2 2.0a will probably be available this fall - Sept. or Oct. Another caution - the selective fixes are NOT THOROUGHLY TESTED as evidenced by the most recent kernel fix! Advice that I've received from IBM is to only patch those things that you NEED fixed - and be very careful at that. Chris Knoell (MGH) ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 19:42:12 on 92/07/27 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) Subject: Public Clipboard Fix Ref: Append at 16:11:07 on 92/07/27 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST) Chris, I understand all of that and accept the risk associated with taking these kind of bug fixes. However, my point was that no matter what fix is generally available it should be just that - GENERALLY AVAILABLE. Tracy Pipkin, Amoco Production Company - Houston, TX, (713) 596-7720 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 19:59:02 on 92/07/27 GMT (by AAEE1AN at OS2CUST) Subject: Is it possible that only some CDROM files are bad? Ref: Append at 02:20:09 on 92/07/22 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Elliott, It certainly is possible for only some files in a CDROM to be bad. Think of it as a vinyl LP with several bands, only some of which have scratches. On the other hand, it may be that the carriage on your CDROM drive is sticking or otherwise being mispositioned during attempts to read some files, due perhaps to some foreign matter on the carriageways. This is analogous to bad bearings in the tonearm pivot. Have you tried the CDROM on other drives? Did you get the same errors? Does the CDROM show any visible signs of scuffing or scratching? Maybe it's dusty? There is a lot of redundancy and error correction built into the encoding scheme, but there is always a point at which the algorithm has to admit defeat. Good luck. Mike Andrews, Okla. Dept. of Transportation (405) 521-4197 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 22:57:13 on 92/07/27 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST) Subject: Public Clipboard Fix Ref: Append at 19:42:12 on 92/07/27 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) Tracy, I agree fully in principle, but the whole of OS/2 2.0 support is so poor at this point I don't know what to expect. There is also a newer kernel fix than is posted here too (7-14-92 - I think)! I just made the comment with the hope that maybe we could get a response from an IBMer about what direction support is taking - it would be nice to know with so much to be fixed at this point. The justification for the selective fix situation is that each machine needs specific patches, but with the exception of the mouse files here, this doesn't appear to be true. I think it's just a way to attempt to give us some untested code in the hope that it will make things somewhat better. I hold the above opinion thanks to the discussions that I've had with Jerry Sitbon, proud owner of a PS/2 model 80 that has been completely rebuilt by IBM to get OS/2 2.0 to run (it still doesn't work). There is not one difference in the problems that he and I have despite the fact that I'm using a Hewlett Packard Vectra (RS/25C) - the problem is not hardware, it's OS/2 2.0. Sorry to run on like this, but after three months of this I'm getting a little weary from the entire experience. If you call the 800 # - maybe they'll send it overnight saving you the download time. GOOD LUCK! Chris Knoell (MGH) ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 12:07:02 on 92/07/28 GMT (by ROBERTS at ASICVM1) Subject: MS Windows and CUA'91 Ref: Append at 18:01:21 on 92/06/15 GMT (by RAGAN at AUSVM1) Microsoft have said that after NT they will move to a 'document based' user interface. Also they published 'Information at Your Fingertips' a while back. That looked awfully close to CUA 91 from what I saw. Dave Roberts - Software Designer, Warwick SDL ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 15:36:00 on 92/07/28 GMT (by WOODARDC at FSHVMX) Subject: AMIPRO IN WINOS2 Ref: Append at 17:43:38 on 92/07/24 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST) Sorry, I have not been around this forum for a couple of days. What is the date of the kernal fix? I know there were a couple on the NSC BBS. You may have to revert to the most previous level, not back the the GA kernal. The ref I made to the 32bit engine, was that one cannot use the previous kernals with that code. The engine is being tested by BOCA now. I am sure that the 32bit engine will fix alot of nit problems. Boca is working furiously, so you may not have to wait long. :-|) I do know some people internally that use AMIPRO, I will find out what they have done to get it going, and get back here to let you know. Chuck ***Team OS/2 E.F.*** ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 16:12:00 on 92/07/28 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST) Subject: AMIPRO IN WINOS2 Ref: Append at 15:36:00 on 92/07/28 GMT (by WOODARDC at FSHVMX) Chuck, The date of the kernel that I cannot use is 6-17-92 with a file size of 716,884 and is the most recent available here. I don't think that any of the current kernel fixes have been issued to solve this APAR. I can still use AMIPRO in WINOS2 but it is certainly not "a better Windows than Windows." As I think I mentioned in my previous message the Lotus AMIPRO OS/2 2.0 support team was well aware of the problem and suggested that it was directly related to the current implementation of Windows within OS/2. Wasn't there supposed to be an incorporation of the Windows API directly into the OS/2 API in order to support Windows applications? Wouldn't this allow better performance and reduce the amount of memory required to load a separate Windows kernel into each session? I would think that it would also reduce the long wait when launching a new Windows session. Any comments? Chris Knoell (MGH) ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 19:11:22 on 92/07/28 GMT (by DANIEL at MSNVM2) Subject: How to run WIN-OS2 in 16 color VGA mode if installed as 8514/A I installed OS/2 2.0 on an 8514/A equipped machine, and so run it and WIN-OS2 in 1024x768 256 color mode by default. Now, however, I need to run WIN-OS2 in a 16 color 640x480 VGA mode for some testing purposes. Can I do this, and if so, how? I couldn't find any Windows or OS/2 settings that would seem to allow me to switch. Can I run VGA res WIN-OS2 while still running 8514/A res OS/2 2.0? Any help or pointers would be greatly appreciated... Dan Butterfield (Westlake, TX) 8/522-4533 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 02:06:18 on 92/07/29 GMT (by XXVALC01 at TORVMCOP) Subject: How to run WIN-OS2 in 16 color VGA mode if installed as 8514/A Ref: Append at 19:11:22 on 92/07/28 GMT (by DANIEL at MSNVM2) I beleive I have switched from 8514 to VGA by running Selective install which you will find in OS/2 System/System Setup. It does require that you feed it all the install disks. Tony Valenti Valcomp Technology Inc. (416) 850-9111 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 02:39:56 on 92/07/29 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Is it possible that only some CDROM files are bad? Ref: Append at 19:59:02 on 92/07/27 GMT (by AAEE1AN at OS2CUST) Thanks for your response. No, I haven't tried it on another drive. I tried cleaning it like I do with audio CDs. I was surprised, since this was brand new. I called the manufacturer, and they are sending another and asked for the "bad" one back. As for the problem with the drive that you suggest, all my other disks seem to function without a care - so I don't think its the drive. If I have the same problem with the new disk when it arrives, then I might have the drive looked at! Thanks again. Elliott M. Avedon University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1 (519) 885-1211 x2204 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 18:37:01 on 92/07/29 GMT (by WOODARDC at FSHVMX) Subject: AMIPRO IN WINOS2 Ref: Append at 16:12:00 on 92/07/28 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST) I cannot talk to the APAR issue right now. Have to get more info. But I can tell you that the methods that were discussed in the outside world (WLO) would not be adequate in terms of performance. At least that is what many thought. I had tried out some of the examples that were floating around the BBs's sometime ago, and thought not very highly of them. A better method than WLO are the Mirrors tools by Micrographx. But these are still slow right now. I think that treating win as a DPMI client was a good Idea personally. There is one thing you will be able to do with the new kernal. Load DOS high in winos2 and in amipro. This may help loadtimes, sometimes quite a bit. First, try adjusting the winos2 session, if that works try amipro. If not try the reverse of what I have told you. That may help. Let us know. ;-) Chuck @ FSHVMX ***Team OS/2 E.F.*** P.S. Try using the UMB's as well, I have seen good performance on *P doing this.(Dos high and UMB's) ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 17:00:28 on 92/07/30 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST) Subject: AMIPRO IN WINOS2 Ref: Append at 18:37:01 on 92/07/29 GMT (by WOODARDC at FSHVMX) Chuck, Aren't WLO and Mirrors developer tools to port Windows applications to OS/2? If so I'm not sure how this relates to the implementation of the Windows API - either via the Windows kernel that we now have executing in each Windows session or incorporation into the OS/2 API in some way. My main point, besides the bug that causes the problems with AMIPRO and other programs is the fact that OS/2 cannot run as many Windows programs as Windows (3.0) did, due to memory constraints. Loading up a new copy of Windows (Standard Mode) seems an expensive way to provide Windows support for multiple sessions. I'm also now under the distinct impression that if I start Cardfile (Windows 3.0 Accessory) in it's own Windows session with the default settings - over 2MB of memory will be used to execute a program that I think is about 100K in size! Is it at all possible for OS/2 to only allocate the memory required by the Windows session as it is requested up to the settings limits? The current method seems to be to set aside the total amount of memory regardless of what is used. My only thought is that the propsed method may not be workable under the VDM sessions, but I thought that DPMI was to solve exactly that problem. Let me know what you think! Chris Knoell (MGH) ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 18:00:31 on 92/07/30 GMT (by FIECHTNE at BCRVMPC1) Subject: AMIPRO IN WINOS2 Ref: Append at 17:00:28 on 92/07/30 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST) | My main point, besides the bug that causes the bug that causes the | problems with AMIPRO and other programs is the fact that OS/2 cannot | run as many Windows programs as Windows (3.0) did, due to memory | constraints. I'm sorry, this logic just blew past me. You can set the DPMI limit for ANY WINOS2 session higher than win 3.0 will let you set it for 1 copy of Windows yet we are constraining memory worse than Windows? What constraints are you speaking of? There are many reasons why you can choose to start all your Windows applications in seperate or the same session. You have touched on one of them. If all applications start in one session, you only use 1 copy of the WinOS2 kernel and one allocation of DPMI_MEMORY_LIMIT amount of memory to support it. If you start n seperate sessions, you use n*DPMI_MEMORY_LIMIT amount of memory. The Windows kernel which WINOS2 is based upon is pretty stupid about allocating memory. It calls the DPMI host and asks "how much can I get?", then it turns around and says "give me all of it and commit it!". I agree that this is NOT THE BEST THING TO DO! We are actively investigating ways to change this without destroying compatibility. Mark Fiechtner - OS/2 Development ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 18:31:21 on 92/07/30 GMT (by TJBARRO at CHGVMIC1) Subject: After Dark 2.0 Is anyone successfully running After Dark 2.0 on OS/2 2.0? I know that version 1.0 works fine. If so, what settings are you using? The same as in the migration database? Timothy J. Barron TEAM IBM Workstation Systems Engineer TJBARRO at CHGVMIC1 OS/2 Chicago Insurance Branch 098 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 12:52:56 on 92/07/31 GMT (by V$IPUCHT at BCRVMPC1) Subject: After Dark 2.0 Ref: Append at 18:31:21 on 92/07/30 GMT (by TJBARRO at CHGVMIC1) Afterdark 2.0 uses enhanced mode instructs for sound. WIN-OS2 only supports standard mode at this time. You need to turn the sound option off, then it should work fine. ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 14:05:00 on 92/07/31 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) Subject: After Dark 2.0 Ref: Append at 12:52:56 on 92/07/31 GMT (by V$IPUCHT at BCRVMPC1) I have AfterDark 2.0 installed, but only use it in the FullScreen Win-OS2 environment where it seems to work reasonably well. The sound is not great, but it is understandable. I cannot use it on my desktop as I am running in 8514 display mode which does not support seemless windows. Note: It does not protect against Ctrl-Alt-Del or against Ctrl-Esc so it is not a good replacement for the OS/2 Lockup function. Lionel Dyck - Rockwell International, Information Systems Center ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 14:54:54 on 92/07/31 GMT (by WZ00627 at OS2CUST) Subject: When is 3.1 going to be supported? I was wondering when Windows 3.1 will be supported? Any Idea? David Rickerson NCH Corporation ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 16:19:34 on 92/07/31 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: After Dark 2.0 Ref: Append at 18:31:21 on 92/07/30 GMT (by TJBARRO at CHGVMIC1) I have no problem running it, when I turn the sound OFF. I used to run it seamless , so it saves the OS/2 Desktop. Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 NHO-32 801-7th Ave Calgary, Alberta, CANADA T2P 2N6 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 16:38:18 on 92/07/31 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST) Subject: AMIPRO IN WINOS2 Ref: Append at 18:00:31 on 92/07/30 GMT (by FIECHTNE at BCRVMPC1) Mark, What I was getting at is that currently I have to make a choice between stability (separate Windows sessions) and the total number of Applications that I want to have running at a given time. I agree that this feature is not available in Windows and is the main reason that I'm using OS/2 2.0 at this time. I suppose that some Windows folks would say that Win 3.1 is more stable and has less "System Resource" constraints due to the doubling of the heap sizes. I do not agree with this sentiment, WINOS2 is far better than any DOS- based version of Windows will ever be! I'm still wondering if there is a way to eliminate the current necessity to execute a Windows kernel in each session. The memory savings would be significant and coupled with an improvement in DPMI allocation would provide the ability to execute more applications without the need to buy more memory. Perhaps what you are trying say, though, is that a "Virtual Windows" implementa tion is not possible, that the Windows kernel must be executed. It just seems that I've read that this is not the way it was intended to be, from a design perspective. I'll try to find out where I got this impression and post the source here when I find it. I have already stated (another forum) that the ability to execute separate sessions of Windows is a far more flexible system than that proposed for Windows NT - where only one session will be provided. In addition, I've found that one can easily implement a separate WIN.INI and/or SYSTEM.INI for each Windows session. It's my hope that IBM will ADVERTISE this ability and perhaps integrate this into the notebook settings for the program object. It was not my intention to be too negative, but the fact is that with OS/2 running less memory is available to run Windows programs. OS/2 is a larger operating system than DOS with Windows layered on top - but it does impart many many adavntages. I just want a system that automatically uses the system memory in the most efficient manner possible in relation to Windows apps and sessions. From what you have said, it sounds as if the effort is being made to improve the DPMI memory allocation, and I'm encouraged! Chris Knoell (MGH) ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 17:11:16 on 92/07/31 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) Subject: When is 3.1 going to be supported? Ref: Append at 14:54:54 on 92/07/31 GMT (by WZ00627 at OS2CUST) How about TrueType font support...? Lionel Dyck - Rockwell International, Information Systems Center ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 18:14:44 on 92/07/31 GMT (by ZUBER at RALVMM) - Subject: AMIPRO IN WINOS2 Ref: Append at 16:38:18 on 92/07/31 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST) I think that you should be able to get better seamless Windows performance by having the full screen OS2-WIN session started automatically at boot time. The reason is that OS/2 *always* shares executable code. Then when you click on a particular Windows application on the Desktop, OS/2 will only have to load the application and not OS2WIN too. The converse should also be true. To see the worst performance do not preload Windows and open only one seamless Window session at a time, closing it before opening the next. <disclaimer>: I am not a Windows/OS2-WIN user since I have been using OS/2 since V1.0 and never saw a need to go backwards. Consequently, I have not tested this other than with OS/2 programs. It is definitely faster, even if the "preloaded" program has been swapped/paged out. On boot up I always have the system open a copy of my favorite editor (SPF/2) in a window which I don't use directly. Getting into the editor from other windows and full screen sessions takes about half the time as it would otherwise. Perhaps someone can verify that it also works as I propose for seamless Windows. Clyde Zuber ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 21:14:18 on 92/07/31 GMT (by SFCFAI at MSNVM2) Subject: Usage of debug version of the Windows kernel w OS/2 2.0 During the install of the Windows 3.0 Software Development Kit, it recommends the installation of a debugging version of the Windows kernel. Is this still possible using the Windows code that comes with OS/2 2.0? Thanks.... Sung Fai Chew (Fai) ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 18:38:54 on 92/08/01 GMT (by 64939949 at TOROHON1) Subject: Windows ability to alias code segments and data segments I have a customer who is trying to run their Windows app on 2.0 and he is wondering if the Windows support under 2.0 allows you to alias code and data segments the same way it does under native windows ? As I understand it their application does this to provide some extensions to Windows itself. Any help or direction to the correct forum would be appreciated. Thanks ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 11:41:34 on 92/08/03 GMT (by FIECHTNE at BCRVMPC1) Subject: AMIPRO IN WINOS2 Ref: Append at 16:38:18 on 92/07/31 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST) We have also been looking at making parts of DOS and WinOS2 appear in multiple sessions without reloading but since both DOS and WINOS2 modify their own code segments on the fly, I doubt we will be able to do much of this. I understand what you are saying, now. Since OS/2 itself uses memory, WINOS2 doesn't have as much REAL memory to work with as DOS/Windows. Mark Fiechtner ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 11:59:33 on 92/08/03 GMT (by FIECHTNE at BCRVMPC1) Subject: AMIPRO IN WINOS2 Ref: Append at 18:14:44 on 92/07/31 GMT (by ZUBER at RALVMM) This is NOT completely true. OS/2 shares code and data when it can but we cannot share the stuff INSIDE a DOS or WINOS2 session at this time. The speedup you see from starting one DOS session and then starting another is caused by the OS/2-DOS support code already being there and not needing to be reloaded. Parts of OS/2 do not get loaded until they are actually used. The first time you start a DOS Session after IPL, MAJOR parts of the Virtual Machine Manager, DOS Emulation and Virtual Device Management (VDDs) get loaded. This costs "initial use" time but saves memory when not in use or when never used. These parts of the system are 32-bit pageable entities so during IPL only their page tables are set up and page faults cause them to be made "present" as they are used. These parts do not need to be "re-linked" into the system and will be discarded when the paging algorithms call for it. Another part of the system which must be loaded are the system .DLL files used to do the "windowed DOS" and "Seamless WINOS2" stuff. These are unlinked from the system when the last VDM is closed. Mark Fiechtner ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 18:51:23 on 92/08/03 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) Subject: Public Clipboard Fix Ref: Append at 18:29:21 on 92/07/24 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) - Irv, I opened an ETR on IBMLink and asked for this fix and they have indicated that they don't know what I am talking about. Can you provide some form of identification for this fix so that I can update the ETR and get a copy. Thanks. Lionel Dyck - Rockwell International, Information Systems Center ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 20:22:34 on 92/08/03 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) - Subject: Public Clipboard Fix Ref: Append at 12:11:04 on 92/07/27 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) Tracy, a couple of points to ponder. First this was NOT a selective fix. It was a private fix. Second, I place fixes ALL over, not in only some BBS's. Third, some people AUTOMATICALLY pull fixes based on that they are new, never looking at the size or what it does. I had plenty of complaints on INSTB.ZIP at 1.7MB. You can get PRIVATE fixes by calling the 800# and reporting the problem. I'll see if I can get the fix for D/L'ing. Irv Spalten BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 20:35:45 on 92/08/03 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) - Subject: Public Clipboard Fix Ref: Append at 18:51:23 on 92/08/03 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) Trying to track down the fix I have found out the fix failed testing. Yes it did fix the problem, but (thanks to further testing) it is not stable. It was distributed for a short period but it no longer is. The fix is NOT projected to be available before a Service Pack is issued. Irv Spalten BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 21:59:30 on 92/08/03 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST) Subject: AMIPRO IN WINOS2 Ref: Append at 11:41:34 on 92/08/03 GMT (by FIECHTNE at BCRVMPC1) Mark, That's precisely what I'm getting at - it just plain takes more memory to run Windows Apps under OS/2 2.0. I've chosen to do this because the abiltiy to run separate Windows sessions is important to me. All I want is for all of my system memory to be used in the most efficient manner. It has been pointed out that the present DPMI allocation scheme is less than perfect and can result in the wasting of memory. The primary pupose of starting this thread was to ask about the bug in WINOS2 that causes problems with AmiPro in seamless mode. I do now have to give it a separate WINOS2 session with all of the overhead that is necessary because of a WINOS2 bug. This does not happen under native Windows and perhaps explains some of my concerns with lost memory. The other question that remains unanswered is the implementation itself. I haven't yet located the source, but I know that I saw it...the Windows API in OS/2 - was it/is it the plan for running Windows 3.X apps? I thought about it for a while and wondered further - wouldn't this eliminate all of these DPMI problems because the programs would be executing as a sort of "native" app - as do the REAL OS/2 programs? Chris Knoell (MGH) ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 22:03:45 on 92/08/03 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) Subject: Public Clipboard Fix Ref: Append at 20:35:45 on 92/08/03 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) - Irv - thanks for the update. I will close my ETR and wait for the Service Pak (btw. do you have a projected date...?) Lionel Dyck - Rockwell International, Information Systems Center ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 22:44:52 on 92/08/03 GMT (by SURS001 at OS2CUST) Subject: HELP CAN'T GET DDE TO WORK... I can't seem to get DDE to work with 1-2-3 for Windows and AmiPro. The books make it sound simple enough but I've had no luck. Can someone give me some clues. Byron Campbell State Universities Retirement System ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 11:48:30 on 92/08/04 GMT (by FIECHTNE at BCRVMPC1) Subject: AMIPRO IN WINOS2 Ref: Append at 21:59:30 on 92/08/03 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST) The Windows API IS in OS/2 2.0. The implementation of this function is us running WINOS2 in a VDM session as a DPMI client. Windows applications are basically DOS applications with "pretty" front ends. MOST do bad, nasty things like: The DC (Device Context) is a memory pointer to a structure inside the display driver. Some Windows applications take advantage of this and directly change internal display driver structures not because it is impossible to change them any other way but because they CAN change them this way. How can OS/2 let this same Windows application run natively under PM? PM's data structures are hidden from application code and they are radically different from Windows'. You are right, we could have made Windows applications run native under PM, this would have limited our Windows support to about 10% of the Windows applications in the world but would have removed the memory problems you now have. Mark Fiechtner ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 11:50:43 on 92/08/04 GMT (by FIECHTNE at BCRVMPC1) Subject: HELP CAN'T GET DDE TO WORK... Ref: Append at 22:44:52 on 92/08/03 GMT (by SURS001 at OS2CUST) How are you trying to establish the link? Are you using PASTE LINK? Are you typing the information into CELL definitions? Mark Fiechtner ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 12:13:55 on 92/08/04 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) - Subject: Public Clipboard Fix Ref: Append at 22:03:45 on 92/08/03 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) Lionel, I do not have a projected date, the only one available for public consumption is still fall, sorry. Irv Spalten BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 12:15:24 on 92/08/04 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) - ..... OS2WIN CFORUM modified at 12:21:13 on 92/08/04 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) . Subject: HELP CAN'T GET DDE TO WORK... Ref: Append at 22:44:52 on 92/08/03 GMT (by SURS001 at OS2CUST) Here is some info I have, see if this helps... The followings are Q and A for Clipboard and DDE use. 1. Q: If I want to use clipboard and DDE only inside one Winos2 session, how can I use the system more efficiently. A: Remove !Clipwos2 and !ddeagent in system.ini file in os2\mdos\winos2 directory. They are given 3 times each and you have to remove all of them. After you create the first Winos2 session (seamless or full screen session), check the shell task list and close Data Update and Clipbrd sessions. 2. Q: I have 3 sessions of Winos2 and I want to share data by Clipboard and DDE only between 2 sessions. How can I use system more efficiently? A: After the Winos2 session is initiated there are Clipboard and DDE Interchange Agent icons. Click those icons and close them in the Winos2 session that you do not want to share data. 3. Q: I want to share data only between Winos2 sessions, not with PM session. How can I use the system more efficiently? A: After one Winos2 session is created, check the shell task list and close Data Update and Clipbrd sessions. 4. Q: After I copy data to clipboard in PM session and then create the Winos2 session. I can not paste data from clipboard in Winos2 session. What's wrong? A: Nothing wrong. Create the Winos2 session first before you copy data to PM clipboard. The Winos2 session will initiate the PM clipboard which will propagate the data to Winos2 clipboard. This problem will be fixed in future release. 5. Q: I created an icon using Icon Editor from the Productivity folder and copied the icon to clipboard. In Winos2 session, I used the Microsoft Paintbrush and I could not paste the icon from clipboard. Why? A: First you have to have the Winos2 session first (Refer item 4 above). When the icon is created by Icon Editor, it has DIB (device independent bitmap) format. However some Windows applications can NOT understand the DIB format and the paste menu item is given in gray (paste is not available). You still can see the icon in clipboard window. 6. Q: When I use Windows application to copy data to clipboard, it is very slow. Is there any way to speed it up? A: First let me explain the delayed rendering scheme of clipboard. Lots of Windows application use delayed rendering scheme when they copy data to clipboard. The delayed rendering is used to give only the format name to clipboard, and actual data is rendered only when the paste menu item is selected by an application. However, to share data between Winos2 and PM sessions, the Winos2 clipboard gets all data from clipboard owner (owner is the application which copies data to clipboard) and then propagate the data to other sessions. This work takes time and your work is delayed. You have to decide whether to share data bewteen Winos2 sessions. If not, use private clipboard by Option menu item in Winos2 clipbrd. However, if you want to share some of data between sessions via clipboard, use Export and Import menu items. 7: Q: I want to use DDE via Paste Link menu item. Is there any restriction using the Paste Link menu item? A: To use the menu item, the clipboard program should be running as public. You can check the Options menu item and the check mark should be given already. To initiate the hot DDE link, the client and server must negotiate the data format. If this negotiation fails, some applications do not give any error message and no further action is taken. If so, try any other nemu item options like Link if it is available in the application. For simplicity's sake, use of CF_TEXT format for data exchange is recommended. 8. Q: When I want to run DDE between VDM's, I received "DDE time expired" message. What does it mean? A: When the DDE_INITIATE message is broadcasted, the client waits some period of time to receive the acknowledgement. If system load is very high, the DDE_INITIATE message propagation may be slowed down and DDE_ACK response may not be returned within the preset time. If so, give more time in your application. If you are using an application where you can not change the time, then reduce system load and try again. If you have small memory or small swap disk space, then they should be increased. 9. Q: I have several applications running concurrently and each application does COPY/PASTE from clipboard. Sometimes I paste unexpected data from clipboard. Why? A: When application 1 copies data to clipboard to paste it later and while it is doing other work, the other application copies data to clipboard. Later the application pastes data from clipboard, the data is copied form other application, not from application 1. This can be a problem if you run several application concurrently. This problem can be extended to several Winos2 sessions running concurrently with public clipboard. Miscellenous Information: Clipboard: When an application copies several data to public clipboard in different formats and if any one of data gives rendering problem, no data will be propagated to other Winos2 sessions. There is a plan to modify this feature so that only the data with problem is not propagated in the public clipboard. The DDE and Clipboard icons will not be given in Seamless work. In this case an user does NOT have any control over any options of the Clipboard. If you want to use private clipboard in Seamless session, remove the !Clipwos2 in system.ini file. In PM clipboard program, vertical scrolling does not work. This will be fixed in future release. The metafiles in Winos2 and PM are not compatible. When a metafile data is copied to public clipboard without bitmap or DIB format data in Winos2 session, the metafile is converted into bitmap and propagated to other Winos2 sessions. When metafile is copied to PM clipboard and it is converted into bitmap, the image of metafile is enlarged and only center of the image is given in clipboard window. This will be fixed in future release. DDE: For the sake of speed, it is strongly recommended to keep only one server or client in one Winos2 session. The DDE will be given as an icon (DDE Interchange Agent) and will stay as an icon. No user option is available. If you have XGA or 8514 display tube, keep the DDE server as an icon instead of full (or regular) size window. Also, set VIDEO_SWITCH_NOTIFICATION setting ON. Irv Spalten BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 16:07:23 on 92/08/04 GMT (by NAAO3IY at OS2CUST) Subject: AMIPRO IN WINOS2 Ref: Append at 21:59:30 on 92/08/03 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST) Unfortunately, Windows programs use DOS for everything _but_ Windows function, and that opens the whole nasty DOS can o' worms again. About the only programs that might be enabled to run _merely_ by making the Windows API directly available in OS/2 would be Solitaire, Reversi and Clock. John Kennedy -- Hoechst Celanese, Bridgewater, NJ ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 18:01:14 on 92/08/04 GMT (by XXGWLA12 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Printing With An OS2WIN Window I am having problems printing in an OS2WIN Window. I am using Excel 3.0 for Windows, and when I ask for a print, the session is killed with the familiar "dump". I am printing to an HP LaserJet Series II on a Novell Netware 2.15C network. I am using LPT1.OS2. The printing works fine when run in full screen mode. Does anybody have any suggestions as to what I am doing wrong? GREAT-WEST LIFE ASSURANCE PAUL WALTON ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 22:55:43 on 92/08/05 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST) Subject: AMIPRO IN WINOS2 Ref: Append at 11:48:30 on 92/08/04 GMT (by FIECHTNE at BCRVMPC1) Mark, Thanks for taking the time to explain the Windows situation, it is appreciated! I guess knowing what I do about Windows - I shouldn't be suprised that most of those programs muck about as they do. I guess that a solution to the current DPMI problems would do much to increase efficiency - maybe in an update (soon?) Something to pass along - I'm using an Hewlett Packard RS/25C. The OS/2 2.0 Tips and Techniques publication suggests that two files are to be installed in order to use the HP mouse. One file, though, is unrelated to the HP mouse and causes the crashing of Windows sessions if used in conjuction with the new VBIOS.SYS available on this BBS. The file "NOEXBIOS.SYS" should be removed when the VBIOS.SYS is installed. The VBIOS.SYS performs the function of the HP driver - as best that I can tell and makes it unnecessary. If anyone needs more info, let me know. Chris Knoell (MGH) ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 01:00:55 on 92/08/06 GMT (by WZ00648 at OS2CUST) Subject: WORD 2.0 LOOSING CURSOR Having read the prior messages about Word for Windows, mine actually works fine except for two things. 1... I lose my cursor if I select something on the menu bar. Clicking on the document will give me my cursor back. This is in a seamless windows session. 2... Also, the spell checker will halt and ask if I wish to begin at the beginning of the document after every word it finds. Seamless session. Other than that, it works fine so far. Derek Anderson, Anderson Technology Group, Lakewood, CO ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 04:06:12 on 92/08/08 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Is it possible that only some CDROM files are bad? Ref: Append at 02:39:56 on 92/07/29 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Mike, as a follow up - I called the maker of the CDROM, and they sent another which works without a problem. I've returned the "bad" one to them, as the chap who spoke with me said "so I can know what to expect if anyone else has a problem like that". That was the first time I've experienced a problem like that, and the next time, I won't think - drive - Operating System - etc. I'll think disk first. Thanks for you help. Elliott M. Avedon University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1 (519) 885-1211 x2204 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 14:53:04 on 92/08/10 GMT (by 64939949 at TOROHON1) Subject: Windows ability to alias code segments and data segments Ref: Append at 18:38:54 on 92/08/01 GMT (by 64939949 at TOROHON1) Anybody out there ? Could someone please tell me who can answer this question ? Can the Windows under 2.0 support aliasing of CODE and DATA segments ? ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 17:43:12 on 92/08/10 GMT (by HLAVATY at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Windows ability to alias code segments and data segments Ref: Append at 14:53:04 on 92/08/10 GMT (by 64939949 at TOROHON1) Yes, WinOS/2 supports both CS and DS aliasing. These functions "violate preferred W****** programming practices". You can, of course, use DPMI 0.9 which is what WinOS/2 does. See the Windows SDK documentation on AllocDStoCSAlias() or the DPMI (Dos Protect Mode Interface) spec (0.9 version) for more information. I assume "Windows under 2.0" refers to WinOS/2? You can only run MS Windows under 2.0 in real mode... Joe Hlavaty OS/2 Control Program Development ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 01:05:09 on 92/08/11 GMT (by HHSD012 at OS2CUST) Subject: Win 3.1 support or What about KERNEL.EXE (no text entered) Nick Gardiner HHSD012 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 01:18:32 on 92/08/11 GMT (by HHSD012 at OS2CUST) Subject: WIN 3.1 support or What about KERNEL.EXE? Sorry, about previous blank item. I was wondering about what was going to happen to programs that run under Windows 3.1 only when they start coming out, if they have been linked to KRNL386.EXE in WIN 3.1. As of right now, if one of our custom win applications has been written to use extended mode windows (KRNL386.EXE) we cannot run the program. It has to be relinked to KERNEL.EXE or KRNL286.EXE to run under OS/2 2.0. This was quite a problem in the onset because we had no idea that a Windows program wasn't going to be able to start a DOS session. This required some rigging on the part of our programmers so they could supply us (grudgingly) with something that could work under OS/2. Now that uSoft has taken away the KERNEL.EXE part of Windows, it will be harder and harder to talk the programmers into helping us out. On to the question, will there be a 'fake' KRNL386.EXE file in the next release of OS/2 so that the win app will be able to think that it is running in enhanced mode. It seems to me that if OS/2 knows enough to tell you that a DOS or OS/2 program can't be started from a WIN-OS/2 session, that it should be able to go ahead and start capture what the Win app was trying to do and start it for it. By the way, none of the apps we are getting try to use that enhanced memory manager. They just try to start up DOS programs with some parameters. Thanks Nick Gardiner HHSD012 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 23:29:40 on 92/08/11 GMT (by JERRYB at SYDVM1) Subject: WINOS2 Poor Performance I have a customer who is comparing the performance between DOS 5.0/Windows and OS/2 V2.0. The idea being for the customer to determine their workstation environment (they are currently a Windows environment), the tests were done using Excel Version 3 for Windows. The tests that were done are: 1. Loading Excel (OS/2 already had the windows kernel loaded) 2. Running an Excel macro to fill 100 cells with random rumbers, each reiteration of the macro forces a recalculation of the entire sheet 3. Same as the above test with two spreadsheets active. In all environments DOS/Windows outperformed OS/2 V2.0 as shown below 1. DOS/Windows 0:27 OS/2 (Clock already loaded) 0:32 2. DOS/Windows 0:37 OS/2 (Clock already loaded) 0:51 3. DOS/Windows Foreground 0:25 OS/2 Foreground 1:57 BackGround 0:52Background 1:33 In all cases OS/2 V2.0 is too slow for the customer to choose it as their preferred workstation environment. I have read the OS/2 TNT documnet and found little information on improving OS/2 WIN performance. However, will implement the suggestion of: No public Clipboard (the customer is using a VGA screen hence the 8514 suggestions whould not help) The questions I have are: 1. Will the New graphics Engine improve the performance, if so can I information on what is being implemented to improve the performance ? 2. Are there any unpdates coming that improve the OS/2WIN performance ? 3. What other configuration options are available?? Thankyou Jerry Badalassi, IBM Australia (JERRYB at SYDVM1) ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 12:15:31 on 92/08/12 GMT (by HAMMOND at RCHVMV) Subject: WINOS2 Poor Performance Ref: Append at 23:29:40 on 92/08/11 GMT (by JERRYB at SYDVM1) Just a couple of thoughts; 1) How much memory was on the machine? 2) What was the DPMI setting set to? This will affect how much memory WIN-OS2 will use. Try increasing it, default is 2 Meg. Pat Hammond ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 13:13:24 on 92/08/12 GMT (by SAMI3QU at OS2CUST) Subject: WINOS2 Poor Performance Ref: Append at 23:29:40 on 92/08/11 GMT (by JERRYB at SYDVM1) What kind of hardware are you using for these tests? Also, WIN-OS2 doesn't use XMS or EMS memory in the VDM, only DPMI memory. As was previously mentioned, increase your DPMI_MEMORY_LIMIT. If you really want the benefits of OS/2 to show, don't just run these tests "stand-alone". Crank up a couple of things in the background. Assuming your client is running Windows in 386 enhanced mode, fire up a resource-intensive DOS application in the back- ground and then run your tests. Do the same thing under OS/2 and I believe you'll see some interesting results. Windows does a terrible job of multi- tasking non-Windows applications. Mark Thompson - Coal Services Corp. St. Louis, MO ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 13:40:58 on 92/08/12 GMT (by ANDYW at BCRVMPC1) Subject: WINOS2 Poor Performance Ref: Append at 12:15:31 on 92/08/12 GMT (by HAMMOND at RCHVMV) Also, OS/2 will shine much better if you've got something else going on in the system while you're running those tasks... Try rerunning the tests, while at the same time, loading in a huge datebase or formatting a disk... Andy Wierling OS/2 Software Developer Programs ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 20:49:27 on 92/08/12 GMT (by NAAO3IY at OS2CUST) Subject: WINOS2 Poor Performance Ref: Append at 23:29:40 on 92/08/11 GMT (by JERRYB at SYDVM1) Today's WINOS2 code is based on Windows 3.0. Windows 3.1 is much faster. A new WINOS2 based on Windows 3.1 (which did not ship until after OS/2 2.0 did) is due this fall. Also due this fall is an improvement to the OS/2 graphics engine. Is he running seamless or full-screen? Full-screen is faster, and the only loss is that he can't have OS/2 applications on the same desktop. He couldn't have OS/2 applications on the same desktop with Windows, either <grin!>. Is the disk busy while this is going on? The advanced functions of OS/2 are not wholly without hardware cost, especially in RAM. If the disk is running, then the thing will be accelerated by additional RAM. Other than this possible RAM shortage, the only thing in WINOS2 that should be significantly slower than Windows is screen painting. Is this a realistic test? The test you describe is going to do frantic updating of the screen while the user sits and watches. What is the speed difference on things that do _not_ update the screen? What is the speed difference on things that update the screen realisticly, such as paging down at a human speed? And, as others have remarked, try doing this with any non-Windows application running in the background. Oh yes -- when running two Excels, is this in two independent VDMs? This offers protection that Windows cannot offer at all, but it will impose a speed penalty, because the system will have to load two copies of DOS and WINOS2 to do it. For a fair test, the two Excels should run in a single VDM, the way they are forced to run in Windows. John Kennedy -- Hoechst Celanese, Bridgewater, NJ ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 05:43:32 on 92/08/13 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Screen goes blank coming out of WINOS2, system HANGS! This is a new problem for me. I've been working on a ToolBook application. I open WINOS2 from the WPS desktop. On the WIN desktop, I get a message that MS Bookshelf viewer is running (I click OK), and the WIN Print Manager is not installed ( I click OK). I restore the ProgramManager (its minimized) and click on ToolBook (DOS 1.53). I open my application, and then minimize. I then click on CorelDraw (DOS 3.0), and then minimize. Some times I open ToolBook ClipArt, and then minimize. I then restore my ToolBook application, work on it, switching to Corel or Tbook ClipArt to put something on the clipboard to bring into the application every once in a while. All goes well. At times I click on the OS2 System Icon to go out to the WPS to get AutoCad to write a DFX file, then go back into the WINOS2 desktop, get CorelDraw to read the DFX file, modify the AutoCad graphic, copy it to the clipboard, then back to ToolBook application to paste the copy. This is somewhat of the work pattern I've been using. However, as the ToolBook application gets bigger, I have begun to save it as another file since that is the way to clean up the old file. After I do that, I stop work, until the next time. So I close all the open WINOS2 programs, and then close WINOS2. Sometimes, everyting closes, but then the OS2 desktop DOES NOT come back. The screen is dark - and the system hangs. I wait, and there is no disk action. I wait, and then do C-A-D. The system seems to come back normally. This has happened about a half dozen times in the past few days. I'm usually working at the ToolBook application for about six hours at a time - the application file is now about 800K. I clip from a CDROM using CorelDraw. AutoCad is an OS2 version. Anyone have any idea what is going on? Is it Swapper.dat? Have I not "tweaked" something I should have? Or have I discovered a "bug"? If the latter is so, why hasn't it every happened before with other kinds of projects? Elliott M. Avedon University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1 (519) 885-1211 x2204 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 19:15:25 on 92/08/14 GMT (by HHSD012 at OS2CUST) Subject: Screen goes blank coming out of WINOS2, system HANGS! Ref: Append at 05:43:32 on 92/08/13 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) I have the same problem and have reported it to the support center. Until we get a fix I have found that if I ALT-ESC out of the winos2 session right after closing it,then it will close in the background and everything will be fine. By the way, I am using an IBM P75, the windows app is a Toolbook one, but I also get the problem intermittently on some full screen DOS apps. Good Luck, Nick Gardiner HHSD012 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 04:31:01 on 92/08/15 GMT (by WHGEOG at RHQVM21) Subject: Screen goes blank coming out of WINOS2, system HANGS! Ref: Append at 19:15:25 on 92/08/14 GMT (by HHSD012 at OS2CUST) I've been having the same problem when exiting WIN-OS2 sessions and, for the first time this evening, with a full screen DOS app (Prodigy). Under WIN-OS2 the blank screen seems to occur following use of ToolBook, Excel4, or Word 2.0 in situations of heavy memory use (multiple Excel files, complex graphics or private clipboard use in Word, large ToolBook files, etc.) If I remember correctly, I switched back to the OS/2 desktop at least once during each WIN-OS2 session. (That's the only distinguishing characteristic of the one and only Prodigy session in which this happened). The problem has occurred on both my office machine (70-161 6mb) and my home machine (70-121 6mb). Both have all relevant fixes installed, except for the 8/13 COMMGA replacements. I don't recall the problem prior to installation of the kernal, black icon, etc., patches that were available around 7/13. It has occurred with both DOS=HIGH /UMB and DOS=LOW /NOUMB settings. I've done no tweaking of the WIN-OS2 settings. One of the WIN-OS2 desktops is pretty elaborate (a dozen fairly large program groups); the other is pretty skinny. I'm surprised that the problem has not been reported in the OS2BUG forum or in the very active Prodigy fora, which leads me to think that it might be connected with one (or more) of the fixes made available since GA.... Any thoughts? Bill Geoghegan ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 17:16:51 on 92/08/18 GMT (by PSC31 at OS2CUST) Subject: DDE between PM and Windows apps Are there any special restrictions or considerations which must be taken into account when using DDE between a PM program and a Windows program - e.g., does a PM WinDdeInitiate() broadcast WM_DDE_INITIATE messages into both environments?; can our PM application pretend it's communicating with another PM application, and our Windows application pretend it's communicating with another WinApp?; etc. I haven't been able to find any documentation on DDE between PM and Windows applications - can someone point us in the right direction? Thanks. Bob Dedrick, Prodigy Services Company (P*HFDD60A) ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 18:31:34 on 92/08/18 GMT (by RNOLEN at DALHQIC2) Subject: DDE between PM and Windows apps Ref: Append at 17:16:51 on 92/08/18 GMT (by PSC31 at OS2CUST) The document you need is Volume 2 of the Redbooks, Dos and Windows Environment (Doc #GG24-3731-00). This document describes DDE interaction between Windows apps in multiple VDMs and between Windows and PM apps. It seems to be pretty complete. Randy Nolen Software Vendor Support Center ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 19:35:43 on 92/08/18 GMT (by SDWISE at LSAVMIC1) Subject: Windows 3.1 support for OS/2 2.0 Are there plans to release Beta Code for the Windows 3.1 support under OS/2 2.0? If so, who is the contact? Any information other than "sometime this fall" would be appreciated. Our customer views this as a MAJOR issue in the decision to embrace OS/2 2.0. Thanx........ Scott D. Wise LSAVMIC1(SDWISE) T/L 339-5556 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 20:11:52 on 92/08/18 GMT (by XXX0422 at TORVMCOP) Subject: WINFAX will receive but not send Has anyone had any luck sending faxes from WINFAX. No matter the source of the document the receiving fax machine will not accept. It works fine in receive mode, no problems at all. Am using a Zoom Fax Modem. Bob Morrow Information Systems Regina General Hospital (306) 359-4660 Fax (306) 359-4858 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 20:19:22 on 92/08/18 GMT (by AT at VIA) ----- Subject: Minimizing background CPU utilization I have found one Windows application, PowerLeads, that almost totally occupies the processor. Whether it runs in foreground or background, the system nearly comes to a halt. I have tried turning off background processing, but it seems to have no effect. The program keeps running, including popping alarms. Can anyone suggest a method to either throttle it down in background mode or, failing that, disable it completely. The application itself is a front end for a data base called SuperBase, if that is a hint for anyone Lee Nolan ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 21:14:02 on 92/08/18 GMT (by XXMINC08 at TORVMCOP) Subject: DDE between PM and Windows apps Ref: Append at 17:16:51 on 92/08/18 GMT (by PSC31 at OS2CUST) Bob, Basically the answer you are looking for is yes ... your PM programs can just assume they are talking to other PM programs, and your windoze programs can assume they are talking to other windoze programs. Under the covers, OS/2 has a DDEServer layer running in PM and in each VDM that handles translation of clipboard formats and communicating via named pipes between PM and the Windoze apps. This is all documented in the Red Book GG24-3731 OS/2 Version 2.0 Volume 2: DOS and Windows Environment. Good luck... Bill Nelson Manulife Financial ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 21:35:01 on 92/08/19 GMT (by IL22868 at OS2CUST) Subject: Minimizing background CPU utilization Ref: Append at 20:19:22 on 92/08/18 GMT (by AT at VIA) ----- Just a stab -- try turning VIDEO_SWITCH_NOTIFICATION OFF to prevent it from running in the background. I know that setting must be ON for WIN-OS2 to run in the background with an 8514 or XGA display in high-res mode. Ken Singer, Shell Oil, Houston ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 21:25:18 on 92/08/20 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST) Subject: Screen goes blank coming out of WINOS2, system HANGS! Ref: Append at 04:31:01 on 92/08/15 GMT (by WHGEOG at RHQVM21) Bill, Count me in on the blank screen after exiting WINOS2 also. It happened to me when leaving WP4W only once, and it also happened to a co-worker with W4W. For us the machine seemed to be totally locked up - CNTRL-ESC, CNTRL-C, CNTRL-Brea k, ESC, etc. do not cause any change in the blank screen. CNTRL-ALT-Delete see m to work ok though. This does not happen all of the time, but it does happen to differnet people every once in a while. Mike Long - CARD Iowa State University - PC/LAN Analyst ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 16:24:40 on 92/08/21 GMT (by TKP at RHQVM14) -- Subject: 4029 Problem Ref: Append at 21:25:18 on 92/08/20 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST) I attached an IBM 4029L laser printer (5M memory, Postscript option) to my PS/2 mod 95 (8M memory) and came up with the following problem under WIN-OS2: I can set up a 4029 in PPDS mode as a default printer, but I cannot set up a 4029 postscript printer (at 300 or 600 dpi) as a default printer. I create printer objects on the OS/2 desktop, pull in all the required drivers from the printer disks, start up WINOS2 full screen, open the control panel, and I see a list of printers: IBM 4029 Laser Printer on LPT2.OS2 IBM 4029 v52.3 (17 fonts, 600 dpi) on LPT1.OS2 IBM 4029 v52.3 (17 fonts, 300 dpi) on LPT1.OS2 IBM 4029 v52.3 (39 fonts, 600 dpi) on LPT1.OS2 IBM 4019 v52.1 (17 fonts) on LPT1.OS2 . . If I double click on the IBM 4029 Laser Printer on LPT2.OS2 and make it active, it becomes the default printer. Works like a charm. Ditto for the 4019 laser printer. If, on the other hand, I double click on ANY of the 4029 postscript printers, activate it, and then make it the default printer, the printer becomes the default printer only for as long as the control panel is open. As soon as I close the control panel, the default printer is cancelled- when I reopen it, it says that there is no default printer. What could be the problem? Thanks in advance Tom Philips ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 18:09:49 on 92/08/21 GMT (by HDEVORE at HOUVMSCC) Subject: 4029 Problem Ref: Append at 16:24:40 on 92/08/21 GMT (by TKP at RHQVM14) The problem is the comma in the names of those printers (yes, I know, OS/2 installed them that way... but it's wrong). I believe this was mentioned in the Tips 'N Techniques document. It's easily fixed. Close the Windows session(s). Edit the WIN.INI file (in the \OS2\MDOS\WINOS2 directory on your OS/2 2.0 boot drive) and search out those printer names. Delete the comma, save the changes, and try again. Hal L. DeVore Jr. Space Station DMS Software Development hdevore@erehwon.houston.ibm.com ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 18:10:26 on 92/08/21 GMT (by NAGUEXU at OS2CUST) Subject: Minimizing background CPU utilization Ref: Append at 21:35:01 on 92/08/19 GMT (by IL22868 at OS2CUST) It was a good thought, but VIDEO_SWITCH_NOTIFICATION was already set to OFF. Does anyone else have any ideas? Lee Nolan ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 19:11:12 on 92/08/21 GMT (by BAHRJ at HOUVMSCC) Subject: Add Printer >> in WIN-OS/2 Control Panel I'm using LAN Requester and accessing a 4029 laser printer. I have the printer's icon on the OS2 desktop, and am net using it. The problem I have is that the 4029 can be accessed in two modes: PS(Postscript) and TX(text?). I just added an icon for the TX mode on the desktop, but when I installed the printer driver I was not prompted whether or not I wished to install the coresponding windows printer driver. Then, if I try Add Printer>> under the WIN-OS/2 control pannel printer, the button is depressed, the sand starts to fall, and then nothing happens and it comes back. What's going on? This is only one of the printer problems if experienced but I can only fight one battle at a time. Thanks, John Bahr (BAHRJ @ HOUVMSCC Space Station Freedom DMS STSV IV&V) (BAHRJ @ HOUELMVS IBM HOUSTON) (John_Bahr@vnet.ibm.com ) ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 16:48:27 on 92/08/24 GMT (by IL49564 at OS2CUST) Subject: Slow Mouse Operation in Windows After A Long Period of Use. I have several IBM and OEM machines which are using MicroSoft Mice. These are not the latest versions, but are from 1 year to 4 years in age. The symptoms that we are experiencing is that after several days of use of windows applications, after installing and setting up the system. The mouse begins to behave erratically in its movement acrossthe screen. Also, the resonse to pushing buttons is very slow. Bob Boyce, RBRD300/WSC1VM1 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 14:35:22 on 92/08/25 GMT (by IL39800 at OS2CUST) Subject: Using FactSet We have been using FactSet on the DOS side for quite a while and have recently gotten a copy for Windows from them. When we try to run the application, we get an error: FDSW has caused an error in WIN-OS/2*. GP Fault in Module: FDSW.EXE at 000F:2A2F Press OK to close application Also, if I can get this problem solved, I would like to use a Modem Pool. Can we do this? Chris Silsby, Michigan Dept. of Treasury ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 18:14:23 on 92/08/25 GMT (by XXVALC01 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Screen goes blank coming out of WINOS2, system HANGS! Ref: Append at 21:25:18 on 92/08/20 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST) The only time I have encountered the blank screen on leaving WINOS2 is when a netpopup message came in at exactly the same time. I am running ATI Graphics Ultra in 8514 hi-res mode. Tony Valenti Valcomp Technology Inc. (416) 850-9111 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 21:48:04 on 92/08/25 GMT (by V$00052 at ATLVM6) Subject: Win-OS2 switch back to Desktop is sllloooowwwwwww Ref: Append at 02:57:18 on 92/07/15 GMT (by OHKADO at TOKVMSDC) I had the same problem with my Gateway 2000 with an ATI Graphics Ultra card. Someone from the NSC BBS suggested a few things which fixed the problem. Comment out the line in your config.sys which says DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\V8514A.SYS That did the trick for me. If that doesn't work, try increasing the DPMI limit to 4M or 6M. I still have the problem of a 'shadow' around my mouse pointer when I switch from the desktop to the winos2 session. Hope this helps. Milind ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 22:35:09 on 92/08/25 GMT (by HUDSONG at TUCVM2) Subject: Running Windows full screen session from GA OS/2 2.0 Until recently, I had not tried running a Windows session or applications on my system. OS/2 and PM work great, but I've found that my Windows full screen session will hang after 2-3 minutes (different places each time). I am using a TVGA board on a 486 clone. I run a Sieko CM1440 monitor at 800x600x256 colors for OS/2 with no problems. I list these since it appears to be a video/graphics problem; I can still get some of the keys to work after the mouse dies, but the screen is all whacked out. I am curious if I need to modify the VGA drivers for the Windows session or change some other file in the WINOS2 drivers? Can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks! Guy Hudson, ADSTAR, Tucson Development Lab. ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 11:33:18 on 92/08/26 GMT (by RFITCH at ATLVMIC1) Subject: LAN PRINTING TIPS HAL DeVore APPENDED this forum concernig the use of LPT3.OS2thru LPT9.OS2. He edited the WIN.INI file in the \OS2\MDOS\WINOS2 directory. I have edited this same file and can not get this to work. The printers do show up in the Printers section of my Control Panel but when I select them as the default printer..... the Windows application (Microsoft Word for Windows) does NOT recognize them. It seems none of the Windows Apps recognize them. The PRINT option is GREYED OUT when these ports are selected as the default. Hal.... If your out there listening.... do you have any ideas? Anybody else??? Randy Fitch ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 13:37:11 on 92/08/26 GMT (by XXVALC01 at TORVMCOP) Subject: LAN PRINTING TIPS Ref: Append at 11:33:18 on 92/08/26 GMT (by RFITCH at ATLVMIC1) On my system the windows versions of the printer drivers are installed in MDOS¢WINOS2¢SYSTEM. Do you have them there? Tony Valenti Valcomp Technology Inc. (416) 850-9111 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 20:43:09 on 92/08/26 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) ..... OS2WIN CFORUM modified at 21:59:49 on 92/08/26 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) Subject: Win-OS2 switch back to Desktop is sllloooowwwwwww This APPEND was deleted at 17:59:48 on 08/26/92 EST. ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 10:26:32 on 92/08/27 GMT (by RFITCH at ATLVMIC1) Subject: LAN Printing TIPs Tony, Thanks for your interest in my printing problems. I think the user's machine is a STRAIGHT OS/2 2.0 machine; never a previous Windows 3.0 machine. We are using the OS/2 drivers and installing them by answering the Question, "Do you want to Install the Appropriate Windows Driver?", YES! Randy Fitch ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 16:47:44 on 92/08/27 GMT (by XXVALC01 at TORVMCOP) Subject: LAN Printing TIPs Ref: Append at 10:26:32 on 92/08/27 GMT (by RFITCH at ATLVMIC1) I do printing on the network from WINOS2 in two ways: 1. I defined a network printer on my desktop, by using the template which is provided..works fine, but I had some trouble specifying upper or lower tray on the Server's NEC Silentwriter. 2. I defined a "non-network" printer on my desktop, on LPT2 and then used a NET USE LPT2 to the Server's share. I did have to install the 2.0 postscript driver on my 1.3 Server. Only other thing I can think of is to run Control Panel - Printers under WINOS2 and make sure the printer is active. Tony Valenti Valcomp Technology Inc. (416) 850-9111 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 21:17:46 on 92/08/27 GMT (by XXBCHY11 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Oh No ! PeopleSoft HRIS I just spoke to someone at PeopleSoft. They manufacture a Windows 3.0/3.1 based Human Resources Information System. I asked him if they had tested their application under WINOS2. The answer I got was, that they had tried it some time in MAY, but it didn't work. I asked if they had notified IBM. The answer was NO. They said they had also tested their Windows 3.1 version and it didn't work either.(surprise,@#$) I am confused and befuddled. Why does IBM speak so highly of this Windows application ? Why wasn't it tested as part of the BETA test program in last year? I've seen nothing in the OS/2 2.0 readme file and noting on the various conferences. This applications also relies on a gateway(Gupta) which runs on OS/2 1.3 EE. It would appear they are relying on Gupta to migrate the gateway function to Extended Services (and 2.0) Can someone clarify this situation ? I can't believe that this app does not run under WINOS2. Regards, Joe Smeets WESTECH Information Systems Inc. Vancouver, BC, Canada (604) 663-2795 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 21:45:43 on 92/08/27 GMT (by AAFK1JQ at OS2CUST) Subject: 4029 Problem in OS2WIN I've read the text of the most recent '4029 Problem' entries. Sounds like the same problem I've having. I went into WIN.INI to edit it as instructed but I have a question . . . which comma do I delete from which line? Do I replace the comma with a space or close up the place where the comma was? Following are the lines from my WIN.INI. Which do I edit? This one? device=IBM 4029 v52.3(17 Fonts,300 Dpi),PSCRIPT,LPT2.OS2 or one of these? ìPrinterPorts┘ IBM 4029 v52.3(17 Fonts,300 Dpi)=PSCRIPT,LPT2.OS2,45,15 IBM 4029 v52.3(17 Fonts,600 Dpi)=PSCRIPT,None,45,15 ìdevices┘ IBM 4029 v52.3(17 Fonts,300 Dpi)=PSCRIPT,LPT2.OS2 IBM 4029 v52.3(17 Fonts,600 Dpi)=PSCRIPT,None I though maybe I could look at a DOS Windows system and figure it out, but the WIN.INI on a true Windows 3.0 system shows commas in all the same places with the DEVICE line ending with a colon. It wasn't obvious which to edit. Jim Murdock ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 20:04:30 on 92/08/28 GMT (by XXCWBD08 at TORVMCOP) Subject: WIN32s Support for WinOS/2 I have seen indications that Microsoft intends to use their WIN32s APIs to bridge the gap between Windows 3.1 and Windows NT. Applications written for WIN32s will run on both DOS/Windows and Windows NT. To enable WIN32s support in DOS/Windows, developers will be able to distribute the WIN32s code with their WIN32s applications thereby dynamically adding WIN32s support to Windows 3.1. What are IBM's plans for support of WIN32s? Can you imbed it into WinOS2 as part of the Windows licensing they have for the next year. Or is WIN32s considered to be part of Windows NT because it is a subset of NT's WIN32 API and therefore IBM does not have rights to the source code? Russell Kernaghan Canadian Wheat Board (204) 983-3490 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 22:27:16 on 92/08/28 GMT (by SDWISE at LSAVMIC1) Subject: 4029 Problem in OS2WIN Ref: Append at 21:45:43 on 92/08/27 GMT (by AAFK1JQ at OS2CUST) You remove the comma that is present BEFORE the 300 or 600 dpi designation in ALL lines involving the 4029 PS Driver in your WIN.INI and LEAVE a space in it's place. Lexmark Tech Support is at T/L 445-3000. From Scott D. Wise T/L 339-5556 LSAVMIC1(SDWISE) ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 23:10:59 on 92/08/28 GMT (by RWPEINA at MSPVMIC1) Subject: WINOS/2 PMV2001 "Out of Memory" error I have a customer who is running OS/2 2.0 on a model 70-161 with 8 Mg of Memory and 70 Mg free hard disk space, once I start Lotus 1-2-3 for windows and WordPerfect for windows along with one DFT Comm Mgr session if I attempt to open any other windows, i.e. EPM or OS/2 full screen windows I get a WorkPlace Shell error PMV2001 "Out of Memory Error" more often then not the system hangs. What is happening? The WINOS2 environment is set at DPMI of 3 MB and no EMS or XMS defined. Is there a fix for this? I'm running the 06/17/92 OS2KERNAL. Thanks. Customer is beginning to consider taking advantage of the 60 day or is it 30 return policy. Thanks. PMR 6X526 is open on this problem. By the way this only happens when I'm running winos2, if I start the DFT comm mgr session and no winos2 sessions I can open all the productivity tools and do not get the PMV2001, does this sounds like a WINOS2 problem? ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 14:29:57 on 92/08/31 GMT (by HALLERMA at BCRVMPC1) Subject: WINOS/2 PMV2001 "Out of Memory" error Ref: Append at 23:10:59 on 92/08/28 GMT (by RWPEINA at MSPVMIC1) First, the June kernel causes PVM2001 errors. So, back up to the GA level. Second (in case you still have the error), increase DPMI size. Mel Hallerman ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 12:29:35 on 92/09/01 GMT (by IL10966 at OS2CUST) Subject: WINOS2 and OS/2 Spooler Q: We are implementing some small (4-6 requesters) OS/2 2.0 and OS/2 LAN Server - Entry networks. The server will also be used as an end-user workstation. The user is running a suite of DOS, Windows, and OS/2 applications. Should we disable the WINOS2 Print Manager? We want to make sure that WINOS2 print jobs are not spooled twice. Another related question: Should we disable the Windows Print Manager on DOS/Windows requesters to prevent unnecessary spooling? Kevin L. Herstad, Fort Wayne Community Schools ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 16:30:45 on 92/09/01 GMT (by XXX0422 at TORVMCOP) Subject: WINFAX will receive but not send. Is anyone monitoring this board? This is the second time I have tried to an answer to a problem without any luck. Any ideas? Bob Morrow Information Systems Regina General Hospital (306) 359-4660 Fax (306) 359-4858 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 16:52:10 on 92/09/01 GMT (by FIECHTNE at BCRVMPC1) Subject: WINFAX will receive but not send. Ref: Append at 16:30:45 on 92/09/01 GMT (by XXX0422 at TORVMCOP) Yes, people are monitoring this and other forums. I have used WinFax to send and receive FAXs using an Intel SatisFAXtion board without problem BUT that is not your setup so it didn't seem appropriate to answer. I have no experience with a Zoom Fax Modem. Sorry. Mark Fiechtner OS/2 Development ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 18:48:10 on 92/09/01 GMT (by BAHRJ at HOUVMSCC) Subject: Add Printer >> in WIN-OS/2 Control Panel Ref: Append at 19:11:12 on 92/08/21 GMT (by BAHRJ at HOUVMSCC) Does any one know about this problem??????? This is my second plea for help. I cannot add any printers to my WIN-OS/2 desktop. Clicking on Add Printer >> does nothing. John Bahr (T/L 260-7771) ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 19:16:35 on 92/09/01 GMT (by IL04688 at OS2CUST) Subject: Gupta Quest 1.2.3 We are trying to run Gupta's Quest ver. 1.2.3 in a windows FS session. It gives us an "Application error. DBW caused an error in WIN-OS/2.* GP Fault in module DWWIN.exe at 0028:194D. Cannot communicate with DP Win Server." We contacted Gupta and they told us that OS/2 2.0 is not a supported environment. Any ideas ? This package runs under windows 3.0 on a DOS machine so it should fly with OS/2 2.0 unless it breaks the rules. Leo Tornow ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 20:54:12 on 92/09/01 GMT (by GABRIEL at BTVLABVM) Subject: Microsoft Powerpoint and Excel V4.0 Hi... I'm new to OS/2 2.0, but not Windows. I tried to install Powerpoint, and was successful with the exception of the installation of the Bitstream Fonts. Additionally, I tried to install the recent version of PP (v.3.0), and was rudely told that it can't run in WIN/OS2. I also tried to run the demo of new features for EXCEL v4.0, and it locked up everything. I used an ALT-ESC to get home again and close things down. Also with Excel I get an error saying that it is looking for a file called 300.drv. What is that?, and why wasn't it installed during the installation? Would someone please point me in the right direction to make sure what my problems are. I am on a MOD 90 with 8MB ram. thanks in advance for any pointers. Ed ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 21:33:35 on 92/09/01 GMT (by SQUIRES at DALVM41B) Subject: Using clipboard to move text from OS2 Apps to WINOS2 Apps Ref: NONE I am having problems using the clipboard to move text from OS/2 applications to WINOS2 applications. For example I want to move text from a PROFS note to my WordPrefect document. I can't get this to work. I am able to move text from WP to the 3270 session. I have also tried other PM applications like Lotus 123 for OS/2 and just can't get text moved thru the clipboard from PM ===> WINOS2. Please help if you can. Thanks. squires at dalvm41b ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 22:37:31 on 92/09/01 GMT (by THRUMD at SYDVM1) Subject: WINOS2 and OS/2 Spooler Ref: Append at 12:29:35 on 92/09/01 GMT (by IL10966 at OS2CUST) Yes, disable the spooler. For WINOS2 at least, this will also result in a dialog box being displayed every time WINOS2 starts complaining about the print manager being disabled. To get rid of this message, change /mdos/winos2/system.ini along the following lines: ; disable auto-start of WINOS2 Print Manager ;MAVDMApps=!printman,!ddeagent... MAVDMApps=!ddeagent... ;SAVDMApps=!printman,!ddeagent... SAVDMApps=!ddeagent... Dave ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 02:19:04 on 92/09/02 GMT (by RFITCH at ATLVMIC1) Subject: Excel 4.0 Got a call from a customer today who said that Excel 4.0 would not print to his HP DeskJet 500 within the OS2WIN environment. He called IBM End User Support and they talked with Microsoft. They said that Excel 4.0 doesn't run too well in Windows 3.0. They recommended using Windows 3.1. I thought this was a great market technique. Customer installed Windows 3.0 and Excel 4.0 and he experienced the same printing problems. He then installed Windows 3.1 and Excel 4.0 printed correctly. Has anyone experienced these probelms using Excel 4.0 in WINOS2? Randy Fitch ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 12:41:16 on 92/09/02 GMT (by FIECHTNE at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Microsoft Powerpoint and Excel V4.0 Ref: Append at 20:54:12 on 92/09/01 GMT (by GABRIEL at BTVLABVM) Is the version of PowerPoint you are using ONLY for windows 3.1? WINOS2 is 3.0 compatible, not 3.1. How about the new features of Excel 4.0? Same problem? Mark Fiechtner ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 12:43:56 on 92/09/02 GMT (by FIECHTNE at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Excel 4.0 Ref: Append at 02:19:04 on 92/09/02 GMT (by RFITCH at ATLVMIC1) WINOS2 is Windows 3.0 compatible, not 3.1. WINOS2 3.1 will be out later this year. (before I get asked, I don't know when) Mark Fiechtner ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 15:04:09 on 92/09/02 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) Subject: Excel 4.0 Ref: Append at 02:19:04 on 92/09/02 GMT (by RFITCH at ATLVMIC1) I have installed Excel 4.0 under OS/2 2.0 and it runs fine in Win-OS2 and even prints with no problems. Once again it appears that OS/2 is a better Windows than Windoze (as I don't have to install Windoze 3.1 to get Excel 4.0 to work properly).... Lionel Dyck - Rockwell International, Information Systems Center ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 15:28:32 on 92/09/02 GMT (by XXVALC01 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Excel 4.0 Ref: Append at 02:19:04 on 92/09/02 GMT (by RFITCH at ATLVMIC1) I am running Excel 4.0 on WINOS2 with no problem. I am printing on a NEC Silentwriter both locally and through a network. Can you be more specific about your problem. Can other WINOS2 applications print on the same printer? Can OS/2 applications print? Tony Valenti Valcomp Technology Inc. (416) 850-9111 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 22:43:10 on 92/09/02 GMT (by IL48228 at OS2CUST) Subject: WINOS2 Standard Mode from booted DOS. Ref: Append at 16:43:30 on 92/06/23 GMT (by V$ISTANM at BCRVMPC1) I've tried and tried but I keep getting the same results, WIN /s gets Fatal Code and WIN /r works. I really need to run standard mode if it's at all possible. Did you or anyone else find a sure way to do this? Brian Davelaar, City of Tacoma ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 03:00:55 on 92/09/03 GMT (by RFITCH at ATLVMIC1) Subject: EXCEL and LAN Printing Questions Thanks to all that responded to my previous questions. I will try to install EXCEL 4.0 on a different machine with a different printer to test. As for the Printing to a Network printer from WINOS2.... Tony....I will try creating the LAN printer using the Template as you suggested. Randy Fitch ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 18:15:49 on 92/09/03 GMT (by CNADLER at WMAVM1) Subject: WINOS2 Standard Mode from booted DOS. Ref: Append at 22:43:10 on 92/09/02 GMT (by IL48228 at OS2CUST) I think you need to run WINOS2, not WIN. Cliff Nadler GO TEAM OS/2! Systems Integration and Services Rockville, MD IBM Federal Systems Company PROFS: NADLER at WMAVM7 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 18:43:42 on 92/09/03 GMT (by HLAVATY at BCRVMPC1) Subject: WINOS2 Standard Mode from booted DOS. Ref: Append at 22:43:10 on 92/09/02 GMT (by IL48228 at OS2CUST) Try using a different version of DOS, I believe there was some sort of a problem running Win-OS/2 under DOS 3.x (??) under VMBOOT. Also, just as a reminder, you must use mouse, ems, and xms support from \OS2\MDOS, and not any versions that might have come with your DOS. Hope this helps, Joe ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 19:05:05 on 92/09/03 GMT (by FIECHTNE at BCRVMPC1) Subject: WINOS2 Standard Mode from booted DOS. Ref: Append at 22:43:10 on 92/09/02 GMT (by IL48228 at OS2CUST) The fatal exit code (usually) means that something in the system.ini file is messed up. Did you migrate a previously loaded win3.0 system or install OS/2 on a fresh system? Look for path problems (getting drivers from the wrong place). Mark Fiechtner ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 00:05:55 on 92/09/04 GMT (by AMXD031 at OS2CUST) Subject: Excel 4.0 Ref: Append at 02:19:04 on 92/09/02 GMT (by RFITCH at ATLVMIC1) I don't have specific experience with this printer, however Excel 4.0 and Windows 3.0 work well with an HP LJ IIP and several other printers. Since it's release, Excel 4.0 has been used without problems under WINOS2. It sure seems like, as you said, a MicroSoft sales pitch.... Jon Androvich ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 00:18:40 on 92/09/04 GMT (by AMXD031 at OS2CUST) Subject: WINOS2 Standard Mode from booted DOS. Ref: Append at 22:43:10 on 92/09/02 GMT (by IL48228 at OS2CUST) Use the command WINOS2 /S. WIN /S is probably attempting to load a non-OS/2 version of Windows. I just tried it and it works great! Checking HELP indicates that Windows is truely in standard mode. Jon Androvich ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 23:16:10 on 92/09/04 GMT (by BCHI040 at OS2CUST) Subject: Add Printer >> in WIN-OS/2 Control Panel Ref: Append at 18:48:10 on 92/09/01 GMT (by BAHRJ at HOUVMSCC) I had the same problem, and yet I dont know how I fixed it. I tried to remove a ll printers from winos2 and shut down and restarted and Then somehow I could in stall another printer. Hope It helps... Jerry Hittle, Hawaii Medical Service Ass'n P.O. Box 860 Hon Hi 96808 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 15:24:37 on 92/09/08 GMT (by HARE at BCRVMPC1) Subj: 4029 comma removal problem I put a fix program on Compuserve called 4029pfix.exe that will remove the comma from all affected ini, inf and wpd files. Please download this file and execute it on the drive where winos2 is installed. There is a 4029pfix.rdm file, i.e. readme file, that explains how to use 4029pfix.exe. John Hare, OS2 Change Team ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 16:29:54 on 92/09/08 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) - Subject: 4029 comma removal problem Ref: Append at 15:24:37 on 92/09/08 GMT (by HARE at BCRVMPC1) The file is called 4029P.ZIP and it is also located here in the fix area. Irv Spalten BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 00:10:26 on 92/09/09 GMT (by XXVSEX12 at TORVMCOP) Subject: what is "EXTRA"... Someone mentioned a product or program called "EXTRA" in relationship to WINDOWS to PM application conversion... Is "EXTRA" a conversion tool, GUI translator or ??? tnx Jim Crooks - Vancouver Stock Exchange (604) 689-3334 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 00:48:33 on 92/09/09 GMT (by BCHI040 at OS2CUST) Subject: Win-Word printing in Low-Res When using non-resident printer fonts ie ATM fonts they come out in a very low res looking format. I have a HPLaserJetIII using internal HP fonts are fine but script modern and other non HP fonts print if they were in CGA-Screen format at a really low resolution. I have looked at all of the settings and reinstalled the HP printer does any one have any Ideas. Jerry Hittle, Hawaii Medical Service Ass'n P.O. Box 860 Hon Hi 96808 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 02:42:36 on 92/09/09 GMT (by THRUMD at SYDVM1) Subject: what is "EXTRA"... Ref: Append at 00:10:26 on 92/09/09 GMT (by XXVSEX12 at TORVMCOP) Only "EXTRA" I've heard of is the 3270 emulator by that name from Attachmate. Don't think that's what you're after... Dave ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 18:40:16 on 92/09/09 GMT (by ERC at TUCVM2) --- Subject: GP Fault in GDI.EXE running MATHCAD I am running MATHCAD 3.0 and/or 3.1 on a MOD 95 with an XGA card and a 8514 monitor. The XGA card only has the minimum memory. I was using a Mod 80 with a 8514 card (with the maximum memory) and the 8514 monitor. Oddly, I did not have any of the typical problems (not enough memory, can only open MATHCAD the first time, etc) When I switched to the Mod 95 system I started having not enough memory problems after starting and closing MATHCAD the first time. Because of other problems with OS2 I eventually erased all my OS2 files and reinstalled from scratch. After this I do not have any problems with starting and restarting MATHCAD multiple times!? Now I have a new problem. If I bring up the standard BEAM program supplied by MATHCAD and go to the bottom and select CALCULATE DOCUMENT 7 times - instead of the green hashing on the recalculating equations I get a read block followed by a GP FAULT message and I have to abort MATHCAD. The same thing will happen the first time through on a large document that I created previously on the MOD 80 system. The text of the error message is: MCAD has caused an error in WIN-OS/2 GP FAULT in Mod GDI.EXE @ 0003:0AF4 This problem appears to be a WIN-OS/2 and XGA problem with MathCad. I've tried excluding the XGA card memory range in the Session settings. Starting with the basics - What is a GP Fault? Hoping for the best - Does anyone know what's wrong? Thanks Ed Childers ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 19:43:58 on 92/09/11 GMT (by PWIS110 at OS2CUST) Subject: WINDOWS MIDI SUPPORT UNDER OS/2 2.0 DOES ANYONE MAKE OS/2 OR WINDOWS (NON-ENHANCED PLEASE) APPLICATIONS THAT WORK WITH SOUND CARDS FOR MIDI AND MUSIC COMPOSITION/EDITING/SEQUENCING? THAT WORKS WITH GOOD PERFORMANCE? WHAT DO YOU NEED IN HARDWARE? K. MONICO ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 23:54:43 on 92/09/11 GMT (by XXVSEX12 at TORVMCOP) Subject: metagui pm/winxx/x/etc are there any out there? are there any higher level meta-GUI's out there that would allow multiple execution targets: PM, WINDOS, X, MOTIF, etc... We're already looking at Dev Migr Kit/2 (Mirrors) but that's limited to the WIN->PM port (our app is now C + Win3.0 API's so it'll help for a PM port). tnx Jim Crooks - Vancouver Stock Exchange (604) 689-3334 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 02:24:20 on 92/09/12 GMT (by IL04732 at OS2CUST) Subject: WinWord 2.0a "Learning Word" Lockup I installed WinWord using Windows Full-Screen under OS/2 2.0 GA (no fixes). All the WinWord functions seem usable EXCEPT "Learning Word" under Help. When I choose a particular lesson on the 3rd level menu, the icon appears announcing "lesson is loading" but after the disk light flashes for about 15-20 seconds, the machine locks up with the sand-dial showing and a soft reboot is required. I performed the same installation in a Dos 5.0/Windows 3.0 environment and this problem does not exist. I have no idea where to look for the solution, so any ideas or experiences are welcome.... Art Graham, United States Auto Club, Speedway IN ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 18:35:49 on 92/09/14 GMT (by IL48228 at OS2CUST) Subject: WINOS2 Standard Mode from booted DOS. Ref: Append at 00:18:40 on 92/09/04 GMT (by AMXD031 at OS2CUST) Thanks to all who have responded but still cannot get a standard mode WINOS2 to run in a booted DOS. I have tried using WINOS2 /S. An interesting note is that if I enter that while at the A:, I get no message and the A: returns. If I enter WINOS2 /S at the C: or C::OS2::MDOS::WINOS2 prompt I get the fata exit code. I am running DOS 5.0. Windows was not installed on my machine before I installed OS2, or since. My path includes both A::DOS (DOS 5.0 ) and C::OS2; C::OS2::MDOS; AND C::OS2::MDOS::WINOS2. I am using the OS2 HIMEM, EMM386 and MOUSE. I have looked at the system.ini and there aren't any programs that include paths. Brian Davelaar, City of Tacoma ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 20:00:46 on 92/09/14 GMT (by KLUKEN at ATLVM1) Subject: WINOS2 compared to WINDOWS 3.1 Ref: Windows 3.x can not even attempt to hold a candle to OS/2 or it's Win-Os2 support. Simple case in point: Try the following under DOS/Windows, Use an Internal Tape (Irwin/IBM type) and start a backup, Go open a Windows type App (i.e. Amipro) and start to do some work in that app, and oh yes, don't forget to start a 19,200 baud file transfer in a DOS box. Now under OS/2 this works flawlessly I get 1650cps on my file transfer, I get 3MB/min on my tape backup and I am able to do work in AmiPro. Under Windows everything barfs, chokes and dies!! For single tasks under Windows it will appear that Windows may be a bit faster, but that is because Windows has the full and undivided attention of all system resources to handle one task. But ask Windows to process several different things and it can't do that well, because it relies on DOS to do most of the work, and we all know DOS can't handle more than one thing at a time. An even simpler test would be to Open a Windows APP, format a diskette in a DOS box, and have a 2400bps file transfer in background. OS/2 will handle this without breaking a sweat, but Windows will Choke, even on a FAST 486... ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 00:37:18 on 92/09/15 GMT (by NAAG8T6 at OS2CUST) Subject: Help - need seamless windows I've been running XGA on the desktop, which prevents getting seamless Windows apps (they must be full screen). Since I wanted to run a Windows app in a window, I ran selective install, and chose VGA, shutdown, and rebooted. Now I have a VGA desktop but still can't get seamless Windows (it's greyed-out on the Session page). This is true even when I run 'migrate applications' to let the system do the settings. Anyone know what else I need to do? This is on a mod 90, with a 8514 adapter. Thx. Bruce Ferrero @ Aetna, Middletown, CT ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 01:53:26 on 92/09/15 GMT (by RFITCH at ATLVMIC1) Subject: Excel 4.0 Well, I wanted to close my previous question about OS2WIN and Excel 4.0. Well, it worked great for every machine I installed it on so there must be a problem with the HP DeskJet driver. Customer ended up installing th Windows 3.1 driver and it works like a champ! And YES.... for all those who were wondering... you can install Windows 3.1 drivers in the WINOS2 emulation. Randy Fitch ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 12:58:16 on 92/09/15 GMT (by HLAVATY at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Excel 4.0 Ref: Append at 01:53:26 on 92/09/15 GMT (by RFITCH at ATLVMIC1) Actually, you can use 3.0 drivers (using 3.0 display drivers is only applicable to full screen). Many (but not all) 3.1 drivers should work fine also under the 3.0 Win-OS/2 code, but until Win-OS/2 3.1 support is out you can't be sure all will. Remember that Win-OS/2 in general release is Windows 3.0 (with enhancements to run under OS/2 2.0) and Windows 3.0 will NOT run any specific 3.1 app (many 3.1 drivers, especially printer drivers are really 3.x and will run under 3.0 or 3.1). Regards, Joe Hlavaty ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 13:05:21 on 92/09/15 GMT (by SAMI3QU at OS2CUST) Subject: Help - need seamless windows Ref: Append at 00:37:18 on 92/09/15 GMT (by NAAG8T6 at OS2CUST) Bruce, Seamless Windows is a cooperative process between the OS/2 video driver and the WIN-OS/2 video driver. The OS/2 driver opens a "hole" to allow the Windows app to appear on the desktop. The WIN-OS/2 driver has to be aware that it is operating in seamless mode and only display what fits in the "hole". I believe all you need to do is install and use the IBM-supplied WIN-OS/2 VGA driver, as well as the OS/2 VGA driver. Mark Thompson - Coal Services Corp. St. Louis, MO ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 16:33:00 on 92/09/15 GMT (by IL04688 at OS2CUST) Subject: When WIN 3.1 Support ? Has anyone heard when we should anticipate Win 3.1 support. Is that part of the upcoming "Service Pack" or not. (Along with HPFS that works, and the 32-bit graphics engine.) I believe IBM has committed to providing the service pack during the month of September and we are putting upgrade plans on hold waiting for the reduction in support calls we think that will mean (trusting aren't we ... ). Any comments ? Leo Tornow ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 13:16:14 on 92/09/16 GMT (by HEMSATH at GDLVM7) ..... OS2WIN CFORUM modified at 16:20:27 on 92/09/16 GMT (by HEMSATH at GDLVM7) Subject: Windows-to-OS/2 migration (Moved to another forum). ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 19:33:04 on 92/09/17 GMT (by IL87260 at OS2CUST) Subject: PC3270 I am running pc3270 for windows in the seamless (it took some effort but it works). My problem is with the pop up pad. I am running pc3270 for windows in the os/2 seamless. (took some effort but it works.) My problem is with the Pop UP Pad, it pops up and the disapears befo re you can click on a button. I am using a model 90 with 16 megs of RAM and I am connected to the host as a standalone DFT connection with two sessions. I you can help please do thanks. Michael Vollmer, Dean Witter Reynolds, NYC ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 08:12:12 on 92/09/18 GMT (by ARNE at DKIBMVM2) Subject: GP fault in OS2K286.EXE using Image-IN version 3.0. When using Image-IN 3.0 (a veru usefull paint program) and OS/2 2.0 the program abends with a GP fault in OS2K286.EXE at 0001:6F91 when trying to write text and ATM 2.0 is active. Anybody have any suggestion ?? Thanks, Arne Spiermann (ARNE at DKIBMVM2) ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 18:22:06 on 92/09/18 GMT (by IL48228 at OS2CUST) Subject: WINOS2 Standard Mode from booted DOS. Ref: Append at 18:35:49 on 92/09/14 GMT (by IL48228 at OS2CUST) Success at last! For anyone who has tried and failed to get WINOS2 Standard Mode running in a booted DOS. I was finally able to get it going simply by adding a FILES=40 to the CONFIG.SYS on the boot image. Brian Davelaar, City of Tacoma ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 20:44:46 on 92/09/19 GMT (by XXHYDR10 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Using Gupta SQLWindow to DDE with EXCEL for OS/2 Ref: Append at 04:02:26 on 92/06/19 GMT (by LINSUSAN at HKGVM8) No answer for your question, but another question. I tried installing the Windows version of SQL Windows and SQL Base in WIN/OS2. The install appeared to work. I started SQL Windows and attempted to connect to the database. All I got was a complaint that information couldn't be found by DB Windows. Did you get everything to work in WIN/OS2? How? Thank-you. Jim Schellenberg, (204) 474 4229 FAX (204) 475 4587 Manitoba Hydro Database Administrator ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 20:48:49 on 92/09/19 GMT (by XXHYDR10 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Gupta Quest 1.2.3 Ref: Append at 19:16:35 on 92/09/01 GMT (by IL04688 at OS2CUST) I got a similar error with just SQL Windows and SQL Base. Do you know if the product makes use of extended mode abilities of Windows 3.0? Jim Schellenberg, (204) 474 4229 FAX (204) 475 4587 Manitoba Hydro Database Administrator ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 22:40:00 on 92/09/19 GMT (by HNDERSON at AUSVM8) Subject: IBM partication in the CFROUM Ref: Various appends by IBMer I strongly recommend that all IBMer take time to READ THE HEADERS of THIS AND ALL OTHER CFORUMs. This Cforum and all other Cforums are for Customers to ask questions offer views, suggestion, etc. TO other customers, and to IBMers. They are NOT TO CONTAIN references to IBM Internal USE Only products. They are not to reference IBM INTERNAL minidisk that are not available to customers. They are not to contain reference to unannounced products. __ __ ___ __ __ _ _ | |_| | / \ | \| | | |./ / Hank Henderson HNDERSON at AUSVM8 | _ | / _~_ \ Sincerely | . < Staff OSS to OS/2 BBS (TEAMOS2) |__| |__| /_/ \_\ |__|\__| |_| \_\ Tie:8-793-8647 Austin, Texas LNK1SM7 @ IBMLINK - OS/2 BBS ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 22:10:12 on 92/09/20 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Subject: MS BookShelf CDROM & IBM MMPM/2 Is anyone able to get BookShelf .wav and .mid files to work in WINOS2 with MMPM/2 - if so - how did you do it? Elliott M. Avedon University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1 (519) 885-1211 x2204 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 21:44:33 on 92/09/22 GMT (by ESACK at BCRVMPC1) Subject: MS BookShelf CDROM & IBM MMPM/2 Ref: Append at 22:10:12 on 92/09/20 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) In order to run a Windows multimedia application in WINOS2 you must have the Windows Multimedia extensions installed. MMPM/2 is used to support native OS/2 multimedia products. Patti Esack ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 16:43:02 on 92/09/25 GMT (by NABL3MQ at HONE85) Subject: WinZip I am testing a Shareware program called WinZip. It kicks off DOS programs from Windows. It fails with a Windows error 15. Should this work? Anyone else get it working? ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 21:37:36 on 92/09/25 GMT (by SAMI3QU at HONE82) Subject: WinZip Ref: Append at 16:43:02 on 92/09/25 GMT (by NABL3MQ at HONE85) You can't run DOS programs under WIN-OS/2. You can (and should) use carriage returns in your appends. Mark Thompson - Coal Services Corp., St. Louis MO ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 22:26:55 on 92/09/25 GMT (by NABL3MQ at HONE86) Subject: WinZip Ref: Append at 21:37:36 on 92/09/25 GMT (by SAMI3QU at HONE82) Sorry, sorry.... I should have tested the appends before I did a real one. I'm OK now. Is this a permanent restriction or a bug? Does this mean there are many Windows programs that don't work with WinOS2? I have been telling people that Windows programs WILL work with OS/2. I shall have to be more indirect. How about "Windows programs SHOULD work with OS/2?" Ken Wohlferd - Fortis ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 22:32:58 on 92/09/25 GMT (by NANR6GN at OS2CUST) Subject: WinZip Ref: Append at 22:26:55 on 92/09/25 GMT (by NABL3MQ at HONE86) OS/2 two runs most windows programs. Actually I've heard some people say that it runs more of the older windows programs than Windows 3.1. What you can't do is run a DOS program under WINOS/2. Cesar Ventura ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 20:57:45 on 92/09/27 GMT (by HLAVATY at BCRVMPC1) Subject: WinZip Ref: Append at 22:26:55 on 92/09/25 GMT (by NABL3MQ at HONE86) Actually, the lack of WinOldAp (the driver that lets you run non-Windows apps) and a few other changes has NOT affected very many applications. Here are some scenarios: i) a Windows application requires a TSR: For those applications (such as PC/3270w) that require TSRs and such, you simply load them BEFORE you run Win-OS/2, just as you do under DOS. ii) a Windows app wants to start a command processer (COMMAND.COM) For applications that simply start a child DOS process (to format diskettes and the like -- ProgMan is an example of this), a Win-OS/2 user can simply start another DOS Window or full screen to do this. iii) a Windows app needs to launch a DOS application This cannot be done under Win-OS/2. We've run into one or two installlation programs that were broken by this (a Windows-based install program tried to unexpand files via a DOS decompression program), but the user could install under DOS and then use the tool under Win-OS/2. I know personally of only one application that required the ability to launch DOS programs that was broken under Win-OS/2. In other words, Win-OS/2 supports i) and ii) above, and almost no applications require iii). I hope this eases everyone's mind... Regards, Joe Hlavaty IBM Corp. ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 09:51:21 on 92/09/29 GMT (by XOX18 at STOVM1) - Subject: Windows 3.0 'applets' Ref: None I would like to use some of the Windows 3.0 applets, as the migration database calls them, but have the material only on the installation diskettes. Can somebody tell me how to get them into a form which is acceptable to the migration program? Setup Applications will search my hard disks for appropriate programs; Setup tells me that there is no network installed. The programs themselves appear to be in some intermediate (compressed?) format. =============================================== Bob Everard, Customer Education, Large Systems, Stockholm, Sweden. VNET XOX18 at STOVM1, XOX18 at KISTAJS3 IBMMAIL SEIBMMNP Internet digby@vnet.ibm.com =============================================== Beauty is only skin deep; ugly goes clear to the bone. ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 13:16:44 on 92/09/29 GMT (by HLAVATY at BCRVMPC1) ..... OS2WIN CFORUM modified at 13:37:37 on 92/09/29 GMT (by HLAVATY at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Windows 3.0 'applets' Ref: Append at 09:51:21 on 92/09/29 GMT (by XOX18 at STOVM1) || corrected typo In my copy of 3.0, there is a utility called EXPAND.EXE on disk 2. Run Expand on the file you want to install off of the Windows install diskettes. This is documented in the 3.0 readme.txt file. If you wanted to unexpand HIMEM.SY$ (the $ marks the file as being compressed) to the current directory of C: from A:, type EXPAND a:himem.sy$ c:himem.sys <Enter>. I don't recall if any of the microsoft Windows disks have some sort of 'table of contents' file that would tell you where to find what you want, I've used other MSJ products that did have such a file on the install disk. Otherwise, you'll have to check each || disk for applets and install those you find. Regards, Joe Hlavaty ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 14:02:16 on 92/09/29 GMT (by AYP1Q01 at OS2CUST) Subject: WINDOWS MIDI SUPPORT UNDER OS/2 2.0 Ref: Append at 19:43:58 on 92/09/11 GMT (by PWIS110 at OS2CUST) On my machine at home, which runs <cough-cough> Windows, I use MusicTime by Passport Designs, Inc. This is a music composition and sequencing packace used primarily for printing full scores, but with good editing capabilities as well. It is actually a scaled-down version of their professional system, Encore. MusicTime and Encore are both Windows products (3.0 minimum). They require a MIDI card for interfacing with an external device, or they can work with SoundBlaster, Pro Audio Spectrum, or the Miracle keyboard. I have a "PC MIDI Card" from MusicQuest, which supplies an industry standard MPU-401 MIDI interface. I have installed the software (without the card) on my OS/2 machine at work, for printing to a LaserJet III, and it works fine. Steve Bassler, Allegheny Power ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 14:03:02 on 92/09/29 GMT (by XOX18 at STOVM1) - Subject: Windows 3.0 'applets' Ref: Append at 13:16:44 on 92/09/29 GMT (by HLAVATY at BCRVMPC1) Yes, I'd thought of that possibility, but the programs I'm primarily thinking about have EXE and HLP as extensions - no $'s - so I'm not sure that it's just a case of running EXPAND against them. What I actually want to install are SOL and REVERSI. Yes, I know that OS/2 2.0 HAS those games, but, at least in the case of SOL, the resolution's somewhat easier on my eyes. =============================================== Bob Everard, Customer Education, Large Systems, Stockholm, Sweden. VNET XOX18 at STOVM1, XOX18 at KISTAJS3 IBMMAIL SEIBMMNP Internet digby@vnet.ibm.com =============================================== If at first you don't succeed, transform your dataset. ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 14:37:30 on 92/09/29 GMT (by HLAVATY at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Windows 3.0 'applets' Ref: Append at 14:03:02 on 92/09/29 GMT (by XOX18 at STOVM1) Well, actually, not ALL files that must be unexpanded have a $. You should try running expand on them anyway. This should work. Joe ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 16:05:32 on 92/09/29 GMT (by HHSD012 at OS2CUST) Subject: WinZip Ref: Append at 20:57:45 on 92/09/27 GMT (by HLAVATY at BCRVMPC1) You are right. Most over the counter Windows applications don't try to run DOS programs. Unfortunately, ALL of the programs that my company writes are for Windows and ALL of them try to run a DOS program. This has been a big source of headaches for us trying to stay on the OS/2 bandwagon. Now the problem is getting worse because Windows 3.1 does not have the kernel.exe file, most of the company apps are being linked to krnl386.exe. Win-OS/2 does not have this file or any equivalent. I have seen beta versions of Win-OS/2 with 3.1 support and it doesn't appear to have this file or the krnl286.exe file. Meanwhile it gets harder and harder to hear the music, but I digress. Nick Gardiner HHSD012 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 16:59:03 on 92/09/29 GMT (by XOX18 at STOVM1) - Subject: Windows 3.0 'applets' Ref: Append at 14:37:30 on 92/09/29 GMT (by HLAVATY at BCRVMPC1) Thanks a lot, Joe. Chalk up one more for foruming. =============================================== Bob Everard, Customer Education, Large Systems, Stockholm, Sweden. VNET XOX18 at STOVM1, XOX18 at KISTAJS3 IBMMAIL SEIBMMNP Internet digby@vnet.ibm.com =============================================== When your opponent is down, kick him. ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 17:15:31 on 92/09/29 GMT (by HLAVATY at BCRVMPC1) Subject: WinZip Ref: Append at 16:05:32 on 92/09/29 GMT (by HHSD012 at OS2CUST) The OS/2 equivalent of krnl286.exe is os2k286.exe. This is the standard mode Windows kernel, but the 3.1 beta does not support the execution of DOS apps in the standard mode kernel it supplies... and does not supply the enhanced mode kernel (krnl386.exe). If it's public information, what do your applications do via these DOS programs? Perhaps there's some sort of workaround (for the task you need to do as opposed to your current implementation)? Thanks for bearing with us... have you reported this as a problem via the customer support line? If an IBM Marketing Rep supports you or your company they might also be able to help. Joe Hlavaty ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 18:46:28 on 92/09/29 GMT (by HHSD012 at OS2CUST) Subject: WinZip Ref: Append at 17:15:31 on 92/09/29 GMT (by HLAVATY at BCRVMPC1) Joe, One application makes use of WordPerfect and DrawPerfect for drawing and document processing. This is due to the macro support built into those packages. (The windows version of WP is not fully macro compatable with the DOS version, if you were thinking what we already did). Another application takes advantage of a DOS program called MicroTSP. Still others use a graph generating program by Computer Associates called Display. Right now our fix consists of having a REXX program running in the background that checks for changes to a file. That file is written to by the windows app and contains command line information about the DOS program to be run. The REXX program starts the DOS program while the windows program gives an error about not being able to start a DOS program in a win-OS/2 session. That patch was about the most that we could expect out of the people writing our programs, they don't like the fact that we run OS/2. (Jealosy is not a pretty sight) Anyway, those are the details. Our SE knows all about this. I was hoping that eventually IBM would come out with a pseudo enhanced mode to trick programs that required it, but I can understand that it never will be a very high priority job. By the way, there is one all windows program that we can't run and that is SQL Windows by Gupta. I have tried to get it to run any way I can think of and still no luck... Nick Gardiner HHSD012 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 21:32:43 on 92/09/29 GMT (by II99TZZ at MARTLINK) Subject: WINFAX will receive but not send. Ref: Append at 16:30:45 on 92/09/01 GMT (by XXX0422 at TORVMCOP) I have sent faxes from a Zoom modem to a zoom modem using Winfax From OS2 2.0. What sort of errors are you receiving? ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 13:25:14 on 92/09/30 GMT (by IL40400 at OS2CUST) Subject: INSTALL OCR PACKAGE UNDER OS2WIN I AM ATTEMPTING TO INSTALL CALERA RECOGNITION SYSTEMS' "WORDSCAN PLUS 1.1" OCR SOFTWARE PACKAGE ON A PS/2 MODEL 8580/161 UTILIZING OS/2 AS THE OPERATING SYSTEM. The OCR package is a "MicroSoft Windows" based package. I am trying to install it under OS/2's version of MS-Windows which is WIN OS/2. From the WIN OS/2 desktop, I invoke the "RUN" command under the "FILE" option of the Program Manager. At the "RUN" prompt, I enter "A:SETUP". The "SETUP" begins executing and then halts before completing. The following error message is displayed: "Setup has detected SHARE.EXE loaded on your computer. Please remove SHARE from your AUTOEXEC.BAT or CONFIG.SYS file, reboot your computer, and run SETUP again." I have examined both the AUTOEXEC.BAT and CONFIG.SYS files and have found no evidence of a "SHARE.EXE" file being loaded. I have also rebooted the computer and this has not changed anything. Can you provide a solution for this problem? thanks, L.a. alford ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 15:38:54 on 92/09/30 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: INSTALL OCR PACKAGE UNDER OS2WIN Ref: Append at 13:25:14 on 92/09/30 GMT (by IL40400 at OS2CUST) I've heard the Carera is a hard problem. I saw a memo (Elliott???) indicating someone installed it to DOS\Win3 and OS/2 later. I'm not sure about the status. Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 NHO-32 801-7th Ave Calgary, Alberta, CANADA T2P 2N6 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 16:33:04 on 92/09/30 GMT (by SURS001 at OS2CUST) Subject: WINOS2 display higher resolution with 6091 ???? We have model 90 with an Image adapter/A 3meg, and 6091 monitor. Have loaded device drivers for OS/2 (ver. 1.04). I would like to have WINOS2 display at a higher resolution than VGA. We use WINOS2 on other systems with XGA and would like to get that same resolution with our 6091 with and Image Adapter/A. Byron Campbell State Universities Retirement System ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 03:11:50 on 92/10/01 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST) Subject: INSTALL OCR PACKAGE UNDER OS2WIN Ref: Append at 13:25:14 on 92/09/30 GMT (by IL40400 at OS2CUST) I can't quite remember, but wasn't the WordScan install program a DOS based install, as oppesed to a Windows install process.Try going to a OS/2 command prompt and typing A:\SETUP or A:\INSTALL? Word Scan works OK for us, I don't remember any difficulties during install. The only thing we have not been able to do with Word Scan is to run a stack of papers to be OCR in the backround, but this is because we are using XGA hi reso lution. We are also using the HP Scanjet Plus scanner. Mike Long - CARD Iowa State University - PC/LAN Analyst ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 11:13:31 on 92/10/01 GMT (by FIECHTNE at BCRVMPC1) Subject: XGA HiRes Ref: Append at 03:11:50 on 92/10/01 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST) Do you have the DOS (WINOS2) setting for screen_switch_notification turned on? You should be able to do your background stuff with this enabled. Mark Fiechtner ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 15:50:52 on 92/10/01 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST) Subject: XGA HiRes Ref: Append at 11:13:31 on 92/10/01 GMT (by FIECHTNE at BCRVMPC1) Yes, I have the Screen_switch_notification set to on. I tried several settings to try and make it work, but was unsuccessful. It definitley is connected to t he XGA Hi-res, and there is some info about it in the on-line documentation. It is not a high priority item, we are happy it works in the first place. It is the master help index, under WINos2, under video mode considerations. Mike Long - CARD Iowa State University - PC/LAN Analyst ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 20:59:21 on 92/10/01 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST) Subject: AMIPRO IN WINOS2 Ref: Append at 22:55:43 on 92/08/05 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST) As I reported and Lotus confirmed, there is a bug that causes Amipro to operate incorrectly in seamless Windows mode. Checking the latest Service Pack list - the APAR (PJ03812) has not been addressed. This is a mainstream Windows app. that SHOULD work under WINOS2 and doesn't. Would IBM rather we buy the MS offering which from my experience is not as good anyways? I still have my fingers crossed about the SP, but I'm not holding my breath.... Chris Knoell (MGH) ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 22:29:08 on 92/10/01 GMT (by THRUMD at SYDVM1) Subject: AMIPRO IN WINOS2 Ref: Append at 20:59:21 on 92/10/01 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST) This bug is fixed on all beta versions of the GRE that I have tried, so I'd be extremely surprised if its not in the Service Pak! Dave ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 03:10:27 on 92/10/02 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Subject: INSTALL OCR PACKAGE UNDER OS2WIN Ref: Append at 15:38:54 on 92/09/30 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Not from me Geza. The one you remember is that some of us figured out how to install the HP ScanJet Software. The problem had to do with an address conflict which was resolved using the Reference Disk. I think that the error message is spurious about SHARE. WINOS2 must be complaining about something else. Does the software really want WIN 3.1 rather than 3.0? Elliott M. Avedon University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1 (519) 885-1211 x2204 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 03:17:20 on 92/10/02 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Adding a Device Driver to WINOS2 Does anyone know how to add a driver, when the instructions state: Select the Control Panel icon from the Main Group. Choose the Drivers icon from the Control Panel. The "Installed Drivers" dialog box will appear, displaying a list of installed drivers. Click on the Add button... This is not the WinOS2 I have - or am I overlooking something! Elliott M. Avedon University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1 (519) 885-1211 x2204 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 05:44:23 on 92/10/02 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: INSTALL OCR PACKAGE UNDER OS2WIN Ref: Append at 03:10:27 on 92/10/02 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Elliott, Scanning is the first step for the OCR, so I was close. By the way do you knew any OCR for OS/2 ? We will buy an HP scanner soon. ( up to now I used the cheap method, I faxed the page for myself.) Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 NHO-32 801-7th Ave Calgary, Alberta, CANADA T2P 2N6 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 13:49:00 on 92/10/02 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST) Subject: AMIPRO IN WINOS2 Ref: Append at 22:29:08 on 92/10/01 GMT (by THRUMD at SYDVM1) That's great news! I was wondering if ALL APARs would end up on any list, with so much being done. I'd personally like the resources spent to fix things that are know to be incorrect and not waste time checking all APARs that an indiv- idual fix may solve. For example, one bug in WINOS2 could have 50 APARs that are resloved, but only 5 APARs show up in the SP list. I hope that there will time after the update to close all of the rest of those reports to clear out the system. Chris Knoell (MGH) ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 02:23:28 on 92/10/03 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Subject: INSTALL OCR PACKAGE UNDER OS2WIN Ref: Append at 05:44:23 on 92/10/02 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Geza, my HP SCAN JET works fine. I not only scan images, but I also read text with the software that comes with the hardware. I've been using it on the mod 80 in the office, and all is well. I assume IBM has a scanner for OS2, but I also assume it is for large volumes of material. Elliott M. Avedon University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1 (519) 885-1211 x2204 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 19:15:44 on 92/10/04 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: INSTALL OCR PACKAGE UNDER OS2WIN Ref: Append at 02:23:28 on 92/10/03 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) They do. Some guys at my company is still evaluating VOLUME scanning and storing on optical . IBM-s is >>100page/min and>>100.000$. We have enourmus vulume of legal doc-s to store. (HP is for our department). Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 NHO-32 801-7th Ave Calgary, Alberta, CANADA T2P 2N6 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 00:24:09 on 92/10/05 GMT (by PCBW022 at OS2CUST) Subject: MSWORD Causes GP Fault in GDI.EXE when printing I am attempting to print a large (>170 page) document which was originally created on another machine using Word for Windows 1.1. I am running Word for Windows 2.0 from a full screen WINOS2 desktop. If I attempt to print the document, I get a GP Fault in GDI.EXE at 0012:195A. My configuration: 386-33 mHz Clone 16 mb Memory Novell Requestor attached LaserJet III This file was downloaded from another machine in the form of a self-extracting ZIP file. I have not attempted to print on a native Windows 3.0 machine yet. Has anybody experienced this problem and does anybody have a quick work-around? I have increased DPMI and XMS memory for this machine to 12 mb and get the same error. Thanks in advance! Jay Johnson Power Computing Co. Jay Johnson - Power Computing Company - Dallas, Tx. ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 22:22:00 on 92/10/05 GMT (by WZ00751 at OS2CUST) Subject: Mouse problems with winos23.1 Mouse worked fine in winos23.0 but it "blinks" off and on in winos23.1 (beta) I have a Logitech cordless. Any ideas? ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 00:58:51 on 92/10/06 GMT (by SBRZAYD at HONE81) Subject: WIN32s Support for WinOS/2 Ref: Append at 20:04:30 on 92/08/28 GMT (by XXCWBD08 at TORVMCOP) I was under the impression that one of the terms of the Micro$oft/IBM divorce aggreement was that IBM would not include NT code in future OS/2 products. I don't know if Win32S falls under that category but if it does there's your answer. Also I was under the impression that Win32S support under _Windows_ was going to be implemented by a 32-bit translation DLL. Since WinOS/2 will not let DOS/Windows programs enter protected mode, I would imagine that this translation DLL would not work under OS/2 2.X. Chris Corry American Management Systems ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 00:59:22 on 92/10/06 GMT (by SBRZAYD at HONE81) Subject: Excel 4.0 Ref: Append at 12:58:16 on 92/09/15 GMT (by HLAVATY at BCRVMPC1) You can use (some) Win 3.1 printer drivers under WinOS/2? Damn good tip! Chris Corry American Management Systems ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 00:59:58 on 92/10/06 GMT (by SBRZAYD at HONE81) Subject: Screen goes blank coming out of WINOS2, system HANGS! Ref: Append at 18:14:23 on 92/08/25 GMT (by XXVALC01 at TORVMCOP) I'm afraid that this has happened to me on a number of occasions. It actually happened in the middle of an important presentation that I was giving, trying to persuade people in my company to jump on the OS/2 2.0 bandwagon. It was a REALLY bad scene and no one was impressed. Suggestion: it looks like a deadlock... Chris Corry American Management Systems ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 08:53:54 on 92/10/06 GMT (by 86696115 at WARVM2) Subject: OS/2 2 and Quattro Pro for Windows. Ref: None. I have just installed OS/2 2 GA on my L40 and it seems to be OK, expect that I have problems with a WINDOWS application I want to run. (The application is Quattro Pro for Windows and it runs OK on a Mod 80 with OS/2). During the QPW install, I kept getting... WIN-OS/2 Full Screen SYS3172: A program in this session encountered a problem and cannot continue. with the following register information... A program caused exception c0000005 at 00011b06. The system could not dispatch the exception. The program was terminated without running exception handlers. P1=00000008 P2=05070288 P3=XXXXXXXX P4=XXXXXXXX EAX=00008081 EBX=00000000 ECX=0507128f EDX=1f97133f ESI=ffff11a7 EDI=ffff128f DS=0000 DSACC=**** DSLIM=******** ES=00c7 ESACC=00f3 ESLIM=0000b40f FS=0000 FSACC=**** FSLIM=******** GS=0000 GSACC=**** GSLIM=******** CS:EIP=0217:00005176 CSACC=00fb CSLIM=00007faf SS:ESP=028a:00000000 SSACC=**** SSLIM=******** EBP=00000fd4 FLG=0000228a I tried removing the HotKey program and was able to complete the install, but got similar problems when I tried to run the tutorial - same exception, different location. Is this a problem with the L40SX, the way I installed OS/2, QPW or what? I am an absolute beginner with Windows and OS/2, and just want to run QPW. The register dump means nothing to me. Can anyone help, please? Gary Wooding ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 10:53:03 on 92/10/06 GMT (by HEAULMEP at BRUVMIS1) Subject : NLS keyboard with WIN/OS2 OS2 2.0 (UK) installed on my system is able to use my NLS keyboard. Anything typed using an OS2 Editor uses my country keyboard map. Anything typed using a DOS Editor uses my country keyboard map. Anything typed using a WINDOWS program uses the UK keyboard map. Question : How to implement a keyboard for all or a specific WINOS2 session ? How to implement a specific AUTOEXEC and CONFIG.SYS for a DOS session or a WINOS2 session ? ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 12:33:36 on 92/10/06 GMT (by HLAVATY at BCRVMPC1) Subject: WIN32s Support for WinOS/2 Ref: Append at 00:58:51 on 92/10/06 GMT (by SBRZAYD at HONE81) While I cannot comment on any IBM/Microsoft agreements, your statement regarding Win-OS/2 and Protect Mode is IN ERROR! Win-OS/2 (3.0) supports i) real mode and ii) standard mode. Standard Mode is protect mode (restricted memory access via selectors and so forth). Unless you are running Win-OS/2 with the '/r' switch (or have less than 1 Meg DPMI_MEMORY_LIMIT for the VDM in question), you ARE running in protect mode! Real Mode is only for compatibility with Windows 2.x, and only older applications require it. Any application written for Windows 3.0 or above is an application that was meant to be run in protect mode... I do not know if Win32S will require enhanced mode or not, enhanced mode is not supported in OS/2 2.0. Thanks for using OS/2! Joe Hlavaty IBM Corp. ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 17:06:16 on 92/10/06 GMT (by ROBERTSH at WMAVM7) Subject: XGAHI.DRV error running Windows application under OS/2 When running the Windows program 'XOFTWARE for Windows' I sometimes get the message that indicates that an error was encountered running XGAHI.DRV @ 0002:087F. Can someone shed some light as to what could be causing this? -- Thanks -/- Herb Roberts ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 09:30:19 on 92/10/07 GMT (by 86696115 at WARVM2) Subject: OS/2 2 and Quattro Pro for Windows. Ref: Append at 08:53:54 on 92/10/06 GMT (by 86696115 at WARVM2) PLEASE HELP. What is exception c0000005, and is this specific to the L40SX or a general problem? ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 23:18:16 on 92/10/07 GMT (by HNDERSON at AUSVM8) Subject: OS/2 2 and Quattro Pro for Windows. Ref: Append at 08:53:54 on 92/10/06 GMT (by 86696115 at WARVM2) There is a "fix" for a c000005 error available on this BBS you may want to look at it to see if it fits your problem __ __ ___ __ __ _ _ | |_| | / \ | \| | | |./ / Hank Henderson HNDERSON at AUSVM8 | _ | / _~_ \ Sincerely | . < Staff OSS to OS/2 BBS (TEAMOS2) |__| |__| /_/ \_\ |__|\__| |_| \_\ Tie:8-793-8647 Austin, Texas LNK1SM7 @ IBMLINK - OS/2 BBS Please do something..! Lead, follow or get out of the way. ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 14:15:23 on 92/10/08 GMT (by SURS001 at OS2CUST) Subject: winos2 & Bitstream fonts (no text entered) Byron Campbell State Universities Retirement System ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 14:18:20 on 92/10/08 GMT (by SURS001 at OS2CUST) Subject: winos2 & Bitstream fonts Can I get Bitstream fonts to work under winos2 ??? Byron Campbell State Universities Retirement System ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 17:11:44 on 92/10/08 GMT (by XXVALC01 at TORVMCOP) Subject: MS Mail Is anyone successfully running MSMAIL under WINOS2 on a Lan Server network? Tony Valenti Valcomp Technology Inc. (416) 850-9111 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 18:23:06 on 92/10/08 GMT (by DCHARON at DETVMIC1) Subject: CorelDraw V2.01L under WINOS2 I am attempting to run CorelDraw under OS/2 V2. The program works correctly with Windoze 3.0 (but I am tired of running that productivity killer). I migrated the program when I installed OS/2. When I attempt to open a file that was created under Windows I get the following messages: -"No font list in Coreldrw.INI. CorelDraw not properly installed." -"Bad or missing font file. Text object may be incomplete." All the files are listed in CorelDrw.INI Any help is appreciated in advance. David A. Charon ACIS Market Support Representative-Great Lakes Area 8/897-3530 or (313)262-3530 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 19:27:38 on 92/10/08 GMT (by HHSD012 at OS2CUST) Subject: Screen goes blank coming out of WINOS2, system HANGS! Ref: Append at 00:59:58 on 92/10/06 GMT (by SBRZAYD at HONE81) I have the same problem and have heard that it might be computer dependent. What kind of pc, model, etc. were you giving the demo on? Nick Gardiner HHSD012 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 21:00:59 on 92/10/08 GMT (by IL48672 at HONE82) Subject: Screen goes blank coming out of WINOS2, system HANGS! Ref: Append at 19:27:38 on 92/10/08 GMT (by HHSD012 at OS2CUST) You might find this difficult to believe, but we have discovered that if we exit WIN-OS/2 using Dbl-Click on System menu, this effect nearly always happens. However, if we use File/Exit, it does not. I don't know if this has just been coincidence or not, but you can try it. Chris Breisch NT means Not Trustworthy Pritsker Corporation ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 01:03:39 on 92/10/09 GMT (by ESTEELE at SJEVM5) Subject: CorelDraw V2.01L under WINOS2 Ref: Append at 18:23:06 on 92/10/08 GMT (by DCHARON at DETVMIC1) Windows applications which consist of little more than an EXE file typically migrate just fine into OS/2 2.0, however, many of the more serious (and expensive) Windows apps also do many interesting things to your system when they are installed. For example, they may add several .DLL files to your windows\system directory, add fonts, and / or make interesting changes to your WIN.INI, SYSTEM.INI, PROGMAN.INI and GROUP.INI files. They may also change your path statement and add device drivers or TSR's to your environment. Unfortunately the Migration Utility is not sufficiently artificially intelligent to deal with all of the potential variables. There are ways to handle this in OS/2 but they are generally not for the "casual user". The simple way to fix the problem is to reinstall the failing application while in a WINOS2 session. If you reinstall it to the same directory it was previously installed in, it will run under both environments. (DOS/Windows and OS/2) GENE STEELE ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 02:42:07 on 92/10/09 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Subject: CorelDraw V2.01L under WINOS2 Ref: Append at 18:23:06 on 92/10/08 GMT (by DCHARON at DETVMIC1) David - call (613)-728-8200, and ask for Derik Langdon. He is a tech person with Corel who specializes in OS2. He will be very helpful, and probably is in a position to explain what to "tweak" in your setup to make that version run properly. Elliott M. Avedon University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1 (519) 885-1211 x2204 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 02:50:00 on 92/10/09 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Screen goes blank coming out of WINOS2, system HANGS! Ref: Append at 19:27:38 on 92/10/08 GMT (by HHSD012 at OS2CUST) This happens when I've been doing lots of copy-paste operations, primarily using CorelDraw 3.0 and PageMaker 4.0 in OS2Win. I pull clipart from a CDROM in CorelDraw, do a modification, copy to OS2Win ClipBoard, and go back to PageMaker, and do a paste. This only happens when I've been working a few hours and may have done 10 to 15 operations of this type along with other PageMaker text placement tasks. I think it may have something to do with the GA Swapper file, the OS2Win Clipboard, etc. As for the stats: IBM mod 70-486, 8m Ram, 4m Swap file, VGA. Elliott M. Avedon University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1 (519) 885-1211 x2204 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 07:36:12 on 92/10/09 GMT (by PATLEE at SYDVM1) Subject: ArcView V1.0 for Windows My customer want to run a GIS package called ArcView under WIN-OS2. The README for the product says..... 1. ArcView requires that Microsoft Windows 3.0 (tm) or greater be installed on your system. 2. Windows must be running in 386 Enhanced mode.......... ...so we know it will not run in WIN-OS2 because it does not have enhanced mode support. There are supposed to be only a handful of software products that actually need enhanced mode. Does somebody know if ArcView has a version (or plans to have a version) that will run under OS2 V2..i.e. a PM version or a Windows version that does not need enhanced mode? Who is the developer of ArcView and what is their contact address? Patrick Lee ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 12:07:11 on 92/10/09 GMT (by IMFU012 at OS2CUST) Subject: GP Fault in VGA.DRV on WINOS231 with SQL access We are using a Gupta SQL package called PeopleSoft. The front end of this is a Windows application. This works with no problem over our Novell network using Novell Netbios to reach the SQL server. The SQL server runs on OS/2 1.3. The problem we are having is that under WINOS231 we get a GP fault error on the sc reen reported from VGA.DRV. After clicking on OK, we get dropped back to the W indows screen. The PeopleTools application is closed cleanly so no damage isd one but this is not the way things should work. With WINOS2 (30), we get a fau lt in KRNL286.EXE which we have not been able to fix with the one new kernel28 6 file that we have received. After the KRNL286.exe error, we then get a simil ar VGA.DRV error from WINOS2. Reliability is better if we go from a "global" Novell connection to a "private" connection but the problem still occurs. We are open to recommendations. Harry Lipkind @ IMF Washington, D.C. ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 16:53:55 on 92/10/09 GMT (by IL48228 at HONE83) Subject: OS/2 2 and Quattro Pro for Windows. Ref: Append at 23:18:16 on 92/10/07 GMT (by HNDERSON at AUSVM8) Do you know where I can find the "fix" for the c000005 error? I'm not sure my circumstance is the same but I'm getting this error code after attempting an install on a new AST Tower. Brian Davelaar, City of Tacoma ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 03:56:52 on 92/10/10 GMT (by SBRZAYD at HONE81) Subject: WIN32s Support for WinOS/2 Ref: Append at 12:33:36 on 92/10/06 GMT (by HLAVATY at BCRVMPC1) Joe is absolutely right, and enhanced mode is what I meant to say (really, I swear it) 8-). Thanks Joe for the clarification. Chris Corry American Management Systems ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 21:07:25 on 92/10/10 GMT (by USBC238 at OS2CUST) Subject: Notes Communicatios Problem I have installed a Notes client on my OS/2 2.0 machine. When I try to get access to a remote server, I get a modem not responding error message. I have COM1 configured with an external modem, and it works fine in an OS/2 window. This is the only communications package I have for DOS/Windows, so I can't tell if it is just Notes or the DOS/Windows session. I do have vcom.sys specified in the config.sys. Has anyone else run into this? Ad if so, what is the fix? Charles Boyce - US Bank, Portland OR ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 03:06:04 on 92/10/12 GMT (by PPRYS at MARTLINK) Subject: APARs PJ05158/PJ04866: is there a fix? I have the problem as described in APARs PJ05158/PJ04866. Is there a solution yet? (Invisible mouse pointer when switching back to a full screen WINOS2 session.) Clicking on the mouse affects the screen objects, but it sort of a challenge to figure out where the rodent lies. Roberto Sepulveda (918) 661-7501 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 16:00:36 on 92/10/12 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Subject: APARs PJ05158/PJ04866: is there a fix? Ref: Append at 03:06:04 on 92/10/12 GMT (by PPRYS at MARTLINK) Sorry, no good news. PJ04866 is still open and it is not currently listed as being part of the upcoming Service Pak. I haven't heard of a selective fix being available either. Brent Allen - IBM LAN Systems Integration Services Southlake, TX ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 16:08:27 on 92/10/12 GMT (by RONM at DALVM41B) Re: CorelDraw V2.01L under WINOS2 Ref: Append by (DCHARON at DETVMIC1) on 92/10/08 at 18:23:06 Go look for the Corel .DLL files. I believe the migrate does not copy them to the MDOS subdirectory. Alternatively, add the old windows subdirectories with the .DLL files to the END of your PATH in Autoexec.bat. R.C. Morrill (RONM @ DALVM41B) 1992/10/12 11:08 CDT ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 21:32:42 on 92/10/12 GMT (by PPRYS at MARTLINK) ..... OS2WIN CFORUM modified at 21:36:26 on 92/10/12 GMT (by PPRYS at MARTLINK) Subject: is there a fix? Ref: Append at 16:00:36 on 92/10/12 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Thank you, Brent. I will have to boot DOS to use my WINDOWS apps until there is a selective fix available. That's life. Roberto Sepulveda (918) 661-7501 ============================================================================= It looks like the system screwed up the subject line! Look at the original APPEND and look at BRENT's append. ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 01:44:24 on 92/10/13 GMT (by AAAF0CY at OS2CUST) Subject: Ref: Append at 17:11:44 on 92/10/08 GMT (by XXVALC01 at TORVMCOP) We are about to try. Are there problems???? Jim Sauber, MN Mutual ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 18:43:13 on 92/10/13 GMT (by SAAS6IH at OS2CUST) Subject: Ref. Soft. Dictionary under XGA Just bought Reference Software's Random House Webster's Electronic Dictionary and Thesaurus v1.0 for Windows and installed it on my 8595 with XGA. I used WIN-OS2 without altering any session parameters. The program is designed with a box on the left-hand side of the window for displaying the results of its lookup, and there are buttons on the right-hand side of the window for quick access to the Thesaurus and other functions. When I access the program, it appears that the buttons are not displayed properly within the window, in that the buttons are moved to the left and are partially obscured by the "results box." There is a blank space between the buttons and the right-hand side of the window. I called Reference Software's technical support on this problem 10-13-92 and was told that they do not have OS/2 2.0, have not received any problem calls regarding OS/2 2.0, and have no plans to entertain support calls for their products under OS/2 2.0. (They also publish a grammar checker program.) Any help? Anyone using this program on a system under OS/2 2.0 and NOT having a problem? Is it an XGA problem? david payne, Provident Life & Accident Insurance Co. ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 02:07:59 on 92/10/14 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST) Subject: Dictionary under XGA Ref: Append at 18:43:13 on 92/10/13 GMT (by SAAS6IH at OS2CUST) I have run into several problems with windows apps running at XGA resolution with real Windows 3.0. It almost seems as if the programmers did not allow for proper drawing of the screen at the higher XGA resolution (application programmers that is). One was the HP Scanning Gallery. I suspect combination of XGA and the application. Mike Long - CARD Iowa State University - PC/LAN Analyst ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 07:39:51 on 92/10/15 GMT (by 86627895 at WARVM2) Subject: DOS Windows Application which requires "SHARE" I have a Windows application which I would like to run in the Windows session of OS/2. The installation instructions with this application (which are for DOS 5 + Windows 3.0) warn that it needs "SHARE" to be installed (otherwise the application will give an "Invalid file format" message) Installation proceeded without any apparent problem; no warnings, files unpacked, icon appears etc. When I tried to run the application; "Invalid file format"! I have tried "borrowing" a copy of SHARE from a DOS system but (of course) SHARE fails with a "Incorrect DOS version" message. Does anyone have any suggestions? I am surprised that the application really NEEDS SHARE. Appended by: Thomas S W Gillies, 86627895 at WARVM2 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 13:29:51 on 92/10/15 GMT (by SAMI3QU at OS2CUST) Subject: DOS Windows Application which requires "SHARE" Ref: Append at 07:39:51 on 92/10/15 GMT (by 86627895 at WARVM2) Try going into your DOS (or WIN-OS/2) settings and adding a SHARE.EXE,3,30,255 to your DOS_VERSION setting (for DOS 3.30). If the SHARE.EXE you copied is not from a 3.3 DOS system, change the "3,30" to the correct version (4,01 for DOS 4.01, etc.). Mark Thompson - Coal Services Corp., St. Louis MO ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 16:12:23 on 92/10/15 GMT (by DOUGB at RCHVMW) - Subject: Mirrors - Good or Bad idea I am working with an IBM alliance company that is porting a Windows application to OS/2 2.0. They have been using the mirrors support but are having some problems and can't get any help from anyone. I also was told today that mirrors may not be a good idea. Can anyone provide any additional information regarding the status of using mirrors to port Windows apps. Thanks Doug ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 18:43:08 on 92/10/15 GMT (by RTARMST at NYCVMIC1) Subject: WIN-OS2 DDE and communications support Ok, we're trying to enlighten the customer as to why they should be developing to the 32 bit OS2 PM API, but they are playing it safe with Windows. As such, they've asked me for two things about running in-house developed win apps under WIN-OS2. 1. Their app. will rely heavily on DDE. Apparently, there is an updated DDE engine and DDE APIs with Win 3.1 over what was delivered with Windows 3.0. Their question is, which one is in OS/2? The newer more robust DDE or the one delivered under Win 3.0? Or, is the OS/2 DDE engine and APIs different from the ones with Win 3.0 and Win 3.1? 2. They are considering several communications protocols for the applications. They have asked me for solid information on OS/2's WIN-OS2 support of communications protocols beyond SNA such as NETBIOS, TCP/IP and IPX. Can anyone point to some good documentation or be able to comment on having a win app, for example talk tcp/ip running under WIN-OS2? Thanks. All this would be so much easier if they committed to the OS/2 API. In the meanwhile, I appreciate your response. Thanks. Todd Armstrong 8/340-2998 ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 22:32:44 on 92/10/15 GMT (by SARQ4O3 at OS2CUST) Subject: Max resolution under WINOS2 I have a co-worker who is using a Cornerstone monitor at 1600 X 1200. Can it be used under WIN-OS/2? Does Win-OS/2 support super-VGA now? Steve Burton ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 03:11:41 on 92/10/16 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST) Subject: WIN-OS2 DDE and communications support Ref: Append at 18:43:08 on 92/10/15 GMT (by RTARMST at NYCVMIC1) Virtual NETBIOS support for WINOS2/DOS box is documented as being present in the ES 1.0 and LS 2.0 documentation. It is there and has worked flawlessly for me. Virtual 802.2 support is present in the latest NTS/2 product and in LS 3.0. This support can be used with a public domain packet driver (IBMTOKEN) to allow you to run TCP/IP apps in a WINOS2/DOS box. I know it can do this because I have done it. Sorry I cannot speak to IPX support, but I am sure someone else can fill that area in. Mike Long - CARD Iowa State University - PC/LAN Analyst ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 10:47:29 on 92/10/16 GMT (by FIECHTNE at BCRVMPC1) Subject: WIN-OS2 DDE and communications support Ref: Append at 18:43:08 on 92/10/15 GMT (by RTARMST at NYCVMIC1) The version of WINOS2 which ships today is compatible with Windows 3.0 but we currently have a WINOS2 in Beta testing which is based on Windows 3.1 and its API set. Mark Fiechtner ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 15:40:37 on 92/10/19 GMT (by AYP1Z21 at OS2CUST) Subject: Printing to a Network Printer on an IBM LAN Server Network I have been unable to get WordPerfect for Windows to print. I am using OS/2 2.0 with the swapper fix applied. Also, I have not added the update of WP for Windows. It appears to be printing, but it does not print. I have X'd the choice of Network Printer when using WordPerfect's drivers, but it doesn't help. Can anybody out there help me to get my WP for Windows to print on the network? Tom Haynes, Allegheny Power ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 00:10:52 on 92/10/20 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST) Subject: Printing to a Network Printer on an IBM LAN Server Network Ref: Append at 15:40:37 on 92/10/19 GMT (by AYP1Z21 at OS2CUST) Tom, If you are using the WP printer drivers, the only way I could get it to print is to tell WP4W to print to a file called LPT1.OS2, LPT2.OS2... Mike Long - CARD Iowa State University - PC/LAN Analyst ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 16:13:23 on 92/10/20 GMT (by WZ00633 at OS2CUST) Subject: FatalExit Code Can someone help me as I am new to OS/2 and WINOS2. I have had WINOS2 installed for three months and have had no problems until now. I tried to start the WINOS2 this morning and received the following error message: FatalExit code = 0x0401 The WinOS2 session gets as far as the DOS command line. There has been no changes. I reinstalled WINOS2 and the same error message is displayed. Any ideas? Thanks, Leonard E. Rickan (First National Bank Of Chicago) ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 00:15:35 on 92/10/21 GMT (by NABL3MQ at HONE82) Subject: FatalExit Code Ref: Append at 16:13:23 on 92/10/20 GMT (by WZ00633 at OS2CUST) I hit this problem when I had some Windows 3.1 stuff on my disk getting mixed in with the WINOS2 stuff. I deleted all of the Windows stuff, including the WINOS2 stuff, and did a selective install for WINOS2. This cured the problems I had. I know there are other things that will get you this too, but I can't remember them at the moment. Good Luck! Ken Wohlferd - Fortis (&) ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 16:52:11 on 92/10/21 GMT (by IL33057 at OS2CUST) Subject: Printing to a Network Printer on an IBM LAN Server Network Ref: Append at 15:40:37 on 92/10/19 GMT (by AYP1Z21 at OS2CUST) Tom, I second Mike Long's reply. These files must be written to the appropriat e printer subdirectory beneath the \SPOOL subdirectory. By the way, this is how WordPerfect recommends solving this problem. Wil Davies, California Legislative Analyst's Office ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 20:41:57 on 92/10/21 GMT (by WZ00633 at OS2CUST) Subject: FatalExit Code Ken, I took your advice and deletes all files for Windows and WINOS2. I reinstalled WINOS2 and everything is back to normal. Thanks for your help Leonard E. Rickan (First National Bank of Chicago) ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 12:30:30 on 92/10/23 GMT (by KAMBERG at FSHVMCC) Subject: How do I print from Windows??? I have WinFAX for Windows running under OS/2. I have documents on my D: drive which I want to fax. However, I can't get to the Windows printer. Is there anyway that I can print a file to a WINDOWS printer? Sort of like PRINT ABC.DEF? When I use the print command under OS/2, it obviously routes the data to the OS/2 printer driver. (Although I would like it to go to the Windows driver...) Any help would be appreciated. (Although I don't want to have to buy a word processor just to print a document :-) Kirk Kamberg Kamberg @ FSHVMCC ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 21:28:05 on 92/10/26 GMT (by BCOLSON at ATLVMIC1) Subject: Print drivers under OS2-WIN31 BETA Has anyone tried to load print drivers under the beta code for WIN3.1? I have the latest diskettes and am trying to load under WINDOWS 3.1 full screen. When I select the printer type under the PRINTER window in DESKTOP, it asks for diskette #7 or the file name. I load a diskette containing the file name and find the driver (I think!). But then it asks for a file TESTPS.TXT which I can't find on any of the beta disketts. Anybody got a clue??? Verbal help accepted on 8/534-6074. Thanks. Barry Colson, AL/MS TA - Client Services ----- OS2WIN CFORUM appended at 00:50:08 on 92/10/27 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST) Subject: Printing To A Network Printer Using WP for Windows Ref: Append at 15:15:17 on 92/10/26 GMT (by AYP1Z21 at OS2CUST) You should be able to get WP4W to print to OS/2 LPT2, LPT3 by telling the WP4W printer drivers to print to a file called LPT2.OS2, LPT3.OS2, and I beleive on up to LPT9.OS2. To get LPT2 and 3 installed for other Windows apps, you will first need to edit the file called c:\OS2\MDOS\WINOS2\WIN.INI and add a line to the ports section, LPT3.OS2= Then save the ascii text file, start the full screen WINOS2 session up, open control panel, printers, add in the proper printer models, and attach them to LPT1.OS2, LPT2.OS2, or LPT3.OS2. It may ask you to insert some of the install diskettes, so have them handy. Mike Long - CARD Iowa State University - PC/LAN Analyst