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This forum is supplied for demonstration purposes only and is accessible via the IBM OS/2 BBS system. What you see below is the forum as it existed on 10/30/92. The IBM OS/2 Bulletin Board System (BBS) is IBM's new electronic support offering for OS/2 Version 2.0. With OS/2 BBS you can electronically review OS/2 technical information, submit program defects to IBM, and receive information on how to solve problems. Users of the OS/2 BBS not only include OS/2 customers, but the OS/2 expertise of the entire internal IBM community worldwide. OS2BBS makes all this available via a local or toll free number in most major cities. To request a complete OS/2 BBS Information Package detailing the OS/2 BBS offering and including pricing and registration/access information, please call: 1-800-547-1283. ===== OS2TLKIT CFORUM created at 01:48:44 on 92/04/08 GMT (by HOPKINS at AUSVM8) IBM UNCLASSIFIED ---------------- The information in this forum is considered by IBM to be external and may be shared by everyone who is given access. This forum is shared with the internal IBM employee conferences. Forum: TOOLKIT CFORUM Forum subject: IBM Developer's Toolkit for OS/2 This FORUM is provided as a conferencing tool to promote discussion on issues, questions, and problems relating to IBM Developer's Toolkit for OS/2 . IBM OS/2 2.0 Developer's Toolkit is a comprehensive selection of language-independent build tools, productivity tools and sample programs, online reference information and a kernel debugger. This product has been designed to help the developer exploit the OS/2 Version 2.0 Application Programming Interfaces (APIs). Contributions must not contain confidential or proprietary information. Each contributor agrees, in placing material in this forum, that IBM and other users are free to prepare derivative works based upon it, and to use, reproduce, perform, display and distribute inside and outside their company such material and such derivative works, without obligation or charge. IBM is not responsible or liable for the use, copying, or distribution of materials placed on this forum, and has therefore no obligation to control such acts. All subscribers are required to abide at all times by the conference rules described in the Bulletin Board Rules under "News and Announcements". All IBM personnel are required to abide at all times by the IBMPC RULES and the IBM Business Conduct Guidelines. IBM personnel will read the CUSTOMER FORUM RULES in IBMPC RULES before contributing. Contributions violating these rules will be deleted by the CFORUM Owner or their delegate, and in some cases by an IBM conference Administrator. The OS2BBS CFORUM is where anyone may raise concerns regarding rules violations found in this and other CFORUMS. The IBM Owner of this forum is: Name: Kenneth M. Hopkins, OS/2 Support Services Mailing Address: IBM Manufacturing and Development 11400 Burnet Road Internal Zip 2900-042/1D003 Austin, Texas 78758 IBM Node/Userid: AUSVM8/HOPKINS ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 17:41:28 on 92/04/09 GMT (by ZUSINEC at CLTVM3) ..... OS2TLKIT CFORUM modified at 20:05:49 on 92/04/10 GMT (by FOULGER at YKTVMV) ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 00:49:36 on 92/04/10 GMT (by TES at TUCVM5) - ..... OS2TLKIT CFORUM modified at 20:08:44 on 92/04/10 GMT (by FOULGER at YKTVMV) ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 20:18:37 on 92/04/10 GMT (by KKEY at BTVLABVM) Subject: INSTALLATION Ref: Append at 17:41:28 on 92/04/09 GMT (by ZUSINEC at CLTVM3) It's not you....I have the very same problem here in Burlington. Anyone have an idea? Ken Key - Burlington ASICs ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 15:05:59 on 92/04/11 GMT (by VENDKM at LEXVM2) Subject: INSTALLATION Ref: Append at 20:18:37 on 92/04/10 GMT (by KKEY at BTVLABVM) The GA Toolkit install.exe only runs under 2.0 GA. Kenn Martin Team OS/2 Lexington ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 09:11:08 on 92/04/13 GMT (by 70610226 at EHONE) Subject: KwikInf bug and a wish. Running GA level. Bug: When I start kwikinf I get an error message box telling "Error| HELPNDX not found. Would you like to continue without automatic preselection". I have a valid SET HELPNDX in my CONFIG.SYS. Wish: At configure time I selected "Control Program Reference" and clicked "Bypass kwikINF Window". As I Alt-Q on a Win API I just got "Topic not Found" and I had to reconfigure to get my information. If I click "Display kwikINF Window" the window is displayed even if the information is in the selected "Default Volume to Search". In my opinion after "Topic not Found" you should be prompted for another volume to search even if "Bypass... " was clicked. P.L. PETIT I/S France. ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 11:56:09 on 92/04/13 GMT (by VENDKM at LEXVM2) Subject: KwikInf bug and a wish. Ref: Append at 09:11:08 on 92/04/13 GMT (by 70610226 at EHONE) Some of this is documented in the README. Make sure that .NDX files in HELPNDX are in your DPATH. Kenn Martin Team OS/2 Lexington ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 08:15:12 on 92/04/14 GMT (by 70610226 at EHONE) Subject: KwikInf bug and a wish. Ref: Append at 11:56:09 on 92/04/13 GMT (by VENDKM at LEXVM2) The path is in the DPATH but the problem is a little more complex. I investigated and found the following: My config.sys was customized for EPM and I wanted to get information about the Toolkit AND C Set/2: SET HELPNDX=EPMKWHLP.NDX+DDE4.NDX which is valid for EPM but not for KwikINF. The only valid string for KwikINF is: SET HELPNDX=EPMKWHLP.NDX in this case EPM refuses to display information about C Set/2. How can I maintain compatibility? P.L. PETIT I/S France. ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 13:50:39 on 92/04/14 GMT (by VENDKM at LEXVM2) Subject: KwikInf bug and a wish. Ref: Append at 08:15:12 on 92/04/14 GMT (by 70610226 at EHONE) Well, I did what the README said to do :-) I copied them into one file. COPY path\EPMKWHLP.NDX + path\DDE4.NDX HELP.NDX Kenn Martin Team OS/2 Lexington ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 13:50:49 on 92/04/14 GMT (by HOPKINS at AUSVM8) Subject: Kwikinf bug and a wish Set your program start options for EPM and KWIKINF to call batch files that contain something like... @ECHO OFF SETLOCAL PATH = <path info> SET <variable> = <file spec> <name of program> ENDLOCAL EXIT This should allow you to set local environment variables for each program session without affecting the global environment, or other programs that may need the same environment variables set to other values. Ken Hopkins OS/2 Software Support/Services ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 13:58:25 on 92/04/16 GMT (by XXMTEL02 at TORVMCOP) Subject:Toolkit GA? The last toolkit we got was week of Mar.16 for 304E (everything take a little longer to Canada, right?). Is there a GA release out since then? If not, any predictions? Is the version I have ok to work with GA of C Set and Workframe, Base, ES, etc.? Many thanks, Mike Capern - Maritime Tel & Tel - 902-421-5125. ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 03:42:19 on 92/04/18 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Toolkit GA? Ref: Append at 13:58:25 on 92/04/16 GMT (by XXMTEL02 at TORVMCOP) Mike, As far as I knew ALL the coponents are in GA and "shipping" (to the diskmakers) . synctonization is a main issue, the "old"(304) should work in GA, if you don't use it intensively. NOVELL 304 is limi- ted in GA , so ES . Your IBM SA could get a copy for you. (mine learned from the past, he does'nt pick up his phone.) Geza Szivos. ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 20:00:53 on 92/04/24 GMT (by BRUSSELL at BCRVMPC2) Subject: 2.0 Toolkit and C/2 1.1 Does anyone know if the C/2 1.1 compiler is compatible with the 'C' include files supplied with the 2.0 toolkit ? I get an error with the _seg16 keyword on the PUCHAR16 typedef in OS2DEF.H Am I restricted to using the 1.3 toolkit or move to C Set/2 ? Any help would be appreciated. Brian Russell ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 20:37:34 on 92/04/24 GMT (by WEEKS at AUSVM2) Subject: 2.0 Toolkit and C/2 1.1 Ref: Append at 20:00:53 on 92/04/24 GMT (by BRUSSELL at BCRVMPC2) C/2 definitely does not understand these new keywords brought about by the need to intermix 16-bit and 32-bit code. Craig Weeks OS/2 Application Development Center Austin, Texas ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 20:46:12 on 92/04/24 GMT (by BRUSSELL at BCRVMPC2) Subject: 2.0 Toolkit and C/2 1.1 Ref: Append at 20:37:34 on 92/04/24 GMT (by WEEKS at AUSVM2) I agree that is the case, but is there any #define that I can use that will tell the toolkit .h files that I am not using the C-set/2 compiler ? Brian Russell ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 21:14:45 on 92/04/24 GMT (by WEEKS at AUSVM2) Subject: 2.0 Toolkit and C/2 1.1 Ref: Append at 20:46:12 on 92/04/24 GMT (by BRUSSELL at BCRVMPC2) OS2DEF.H uses keywords which are not recognized by C/2. These keywords are used without regard to the presence or absence of the __IBMC__ compiler constant. Therefore, I don't see any way to use C/2 with the 2.0 toolkit. Craig Weeks OS/2 Application Development Center Austin, Texas ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 21:16:03 on 92/04/24 GMT (by AMELINE at TOROLAB6) Subject: 2.0 Toolkit and C/2 1.1 Ref: Append at 20:00:53 on 92/04/24 GMT (by BRUSSELL at BCRVMPC2) The include files provided with the toolkit are intended for use with a SAA level 2 32 bit compiler like C-Set/2. They will not work with C/2 or MS C. Regards, Ian Ameline OS/2 Compiler Development. ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 21:30:06 on 92/04/24 GMT (by BRUSSELL at BCRVMPC2) Subject: 2.0 Toolkit and C/2 1.1 Ref: Append at 21:16:03 on 92/04/24 GMT (by AMELINE at TOROLAB6) Thanks for the help. Brian Russell ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 21:47:46 on 92/04/28 GMT (by PASPUNG at CARVM3) Subject: Which icon editor? I notice that 2.0 base includes an icon editor, and so does the toolkit. I'm trying to save disk space on an *extremely* constrained system. Do I need both icon editors? If I can get rid of one, which? Do I need to change some references in the toolkit or base to allow each to use the same icon editor? Thanks for any insight, Peter A. Spung, Application Platform Products MDQ Chair, Cary, NC (TEAMOS2) ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 12:20:41 on 92/04/29 GMT (by VISCUSO at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Which icon editor? Ref: Append at 21:47:46 on 92/04/28 GMT (by PASPUNG at CARVM3) Peter, Check the dates. They are probably the same so you don't need them both. The toolkit settings point to the one in the toolkit and the one in the productivity folder will run the first one in your PATH. It's your choice which you want to keep. Red Viscuso CP Technical Interface Group Boca Raton, Fl. ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 19:00:56 on 92/05/04 GMT (by DGLEDDEN at SFOVMIC1) Subject: Installation on Boot Manager System Ref: Append at 17:41:28 on 92/04/09 GMT (by DGLEDDEN at SFOVMIC1) Installation for the TOOLKIT and WORKFRAME seems to assume the system is booted from the 'C' partition and updates the config.sys for 'C' without determining if this is the boot partition. Is this a problem or did I overlook a specification on install? ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 20:36:44 on 92/05/04 GMT (by DTS936 at PKMFGVM3) Subject: Installation on Boot Manager System Ref: Append at 19:00:56 on 92/05/04 GMT (by DGLEDDEN at SFOVMIC1) I think there is a 'Set Drive' choice available from the action bar during the install process. I don't remember exactly, but I think the order might be Options->Set Drive, then Option->Install. Don Southwick ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 16:33:25 on 92/05/05 GMT (by DGLEDDEN at SFOVMIC1) Subject: Installation on Boot Manager System Ref: Append at 20:36:44 on 92/05/04 GMT (by DTS936 at PKMFGVM3) True, the Set Drives options allow the user to define which partition to install the product, but does not have an option for the Boot partition. Both the Toolkit and Workframe/2 updated the config.sys on the 'C' partition. CSET/2 updated the proper config.sys. ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 09:11:33 on 92/05/06 GMT (by LINDAC at SYDVM1) Subject: API Online Reference Folks, Has anyone had a look at the API onlinne reference in the SDK? What's in it? For example, does it have information on APIs for DOS or PM? Regards Linda Clutterbuck IBM Sydney ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 17:52:57 on 92/05/06 GMT (by PASPUNG at CARVM3) Subject: API Online Reference Ref: Append at 09:11:33 on 92/05/06 GMT (by LINDAC at SYDVM1) Linda, The toolkit includes 6 online documents, each documenting various portions of the OS/2 apis: (*) - Control Program Reference, which docs all aspects of the DosXxx apis - Information Presentation Facility (IPF) Reference, which docs the help facility, the IPF tags, and IPF compiler - Presentation Manager Reference, which docs the PM apis: . DevXxx, device . DrgXxx, drag-and-drop . DdfXxx, dynamic data format . GpiXxx, graphics . PrfXxx, profiles (.ini file i/o) . SplXxx, spooler . WinXxx, window Also includes info about graphics orders, appl hooks, and workplace methods - Rexx Reference, which docs all aspects of Rexx (SAA Procedures Language/2) - System Object Model (SOM) Reference, which docs all aspects of the classes and methods used for the OO programming environment, upon which the WPS is built - Tools Reference, which docs all of the tools in the toolkit, including basic appl development (implib, link386, msgbind, etc.), and PM tools (dialog editor, font editor, resource compiler, etc.). This is anything and everything you should need to know about OS/2 programming. Peter A. Spung, Application Platform Products MDQ Chair, Cary, NC (TEAMOS2) (*) Extracted from "Developer's Toolkit for OS/2 2.0 -- Getting Started" ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 20:50:49 on 92/05/06 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) Subject: Installation on Boot Manager System Ref: Append at 16:33:25 on 92/05/05 GMT (by DGLEDDEN at SFOVMIC1) From: Tim Francis, WorkFrame/2 development I haven't tried this to test, but both C Set/2 and Workframe/2 use the same install code, and both should handle the case that the boot drive is not C:. I can't speak for the toolkit. Please try installing Workframe/2 again, and let me know if you continue to see a problem. Thanks. -tim ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 21:44:52 on 92/05/06 GMT (by DTS936 at PKMFGVM3) Subject: Installation on Boot Manager System Ref: Append at 16:33:25 on 92/05/05 GMT (by DGLEDDEN at SFOVMIC1) Oh, I see. I have two bootable partitions... (1) C ( OS/2 1.3 ) (2) F ( OS/2 2.0 ) I must say I was not able to duplicate the problem you are encountering. Were you booted 2.0 when this occurred? Don Southwick ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 22:58:04 on 92/05/06 GMT (by SBRZAYD at OS2CUST) Subject: Toolkit options... The way I understand it you have a few options: (1) 16-Bit Development: Use MS 6.0 or IBM C/2 1.1 with the 1.3 toolkit. The 2.0 toolkit is not supported and C/Set cannot generate 16-Bit code. (2) 32-Bit Development: Use C/Set or... maybe Borland C++ when it comes available (it's not even in beta yet). You must use the 2.0 toolkit in this case (although using C/Set's migration libraries are supposed to make moving code to 32-Bit a little easier). I realize that I have left out the names of some of the other players (Watcom, ThinkC, etc.) I do this only out of ignorance; I'm simply not sure of their compiler status. Chris C. American Management Systems ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 16:42:29 on 92/05/07 GMT (by IL78568 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 Toolkit Promotion There is an OS/2 Tools Conference going on this week in San Francisco. On the now-defunct EEP BBS, Steve Liu mentioned that a new promotion for OS/2 1.3 toolkit owners (or maybe MS C or IBM C/2 owners) might be announced at this conference. If anyone hears of any such new promotions, please post the details here. Thanks in advance for any information. Brooks McNeely ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 13:39:54 on 92/05/11 GMT (by HNB1019 at OS2CUST) Subject: Developing Information panels I am in need of some explaination of how to develop information (or help) panels from the OS/2 Toolkit. I am aware of the VIEW.EXE function that exists in OS/2 and would like to simply format my own text documents in a similar format for viewing with the VIEW.EXE facilities. (since VIEW already exists, I don't think that I should have to write my own Presentation Manager window to view my documents in). I have formatted my documents using IPFC command, but when I try to issue a command such as VIEW TEST.HLP (TEST.HLP being my newly created formatted document) OS/2 responds that it cannot open the input files. What other processes need to be done in order to this to work correctly? - Lisa Bachli ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 15:44:22 on 92/05/11 GMT (by 70610226 at EHONE) Subject: Developing Information panels Ref: Append at 13:39:54 on 92/05/11 GMT (by HNB1019 at OS2CUST) Use /INF option, you will get an INF file instead of a HLP file. IPFC MYDOC.IPF /INF P.L. PETIT I/S France ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 15:56:45 on 92/05/11 GMT (by FORD at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Developing Information panels Ref: Append at 13:39:54 on 92/05/11 GMT (by HNB1019 at OS2CUST) VIEW is looking for .INF files, not .HLP files. Add the /INF switch to your compile line and you should be in business. .HLP files are for use with IPFs contextual help facility. Ann Ford ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 16:18:27 on 92/05/11 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Developing Information panels Ref: Append at 13:39:54 on 92/05/11 GMT (by HNB1019 at OS2CUST) You can't VIEW a help file. It has to be compile to INF (extension) file. Both the .HLP and .INF files are starting from the SAME source file, but you should use a different switches during the compilation. You are using the .HLP file with your application program to provide contents sensitive help , and the .INF file like a manual or tutorial book. The toolkit has a nice example for .INF files. Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 16:42:52 on 92/05/11 GMT (by PASPUNG at CARVM3) ..... OS2TLKIT CFORUM modified at 18:23:44 on 92/05/11 GMT (by PASPUNG at CARVM3) Subject: Developing Information panels Ref: Append at 13:39:54 on 92/05/11 GMT (by HNB1019 at OS2CUST) Lisa, VIEW.EXE uses the BOOKSHELF environment variable to determine where to look for docs, or it uses the path name on the file specification you pass when calling it. So, you have a few choices: | Make sure to use the /INF switch as others have pointed out. However, | the output file can be called ".hlp" if you'd like, though that | extension has another meaning in OS/2. My response assumes you used | /INF, but didn't have the file available in the right directory... 1. Move your test.hlp file to a path that's already specified on BOOKSHELF. (To see the bookshelf environment variable, look in config.sys, or run the "set" command from an OS/2 command prompt) 2. Add the path where your test.hlp file is located to the bookshelf, either permanently: - change the SET BOOKSHELF= command in config.sys or temporarily - type "set bookshelf=d:/mypath;%bookshelf% 3. Add the current directory (".") to your bookshelf, either permanently or temporarily (see #2). Then change to the directory where test.hlp is located, and "view test.hlp". 4. Call view.exe using the fully qualified path name for the file: view d:/mypath/test.hlp (/ = backslash) I hope this information helps... Peter A. Spung, IBM Application Platform Products MDQ Chair, Cary, NC (TEAMOS2) ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 16:43:23 on 92/05/11 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) Subject: Developing Information panels Ref: Append at 13:39:54 on 92/05/11 GMT (by HNB1019 at OS2CUST) Use the /inf parameter on IPFC (new in 2.0). IPFC TEST.IPF /INF will create TEST.INF. To view the file, type VIEW TEST (extension is not necessary. Nathan Davis in Houston, TX ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 23:33:07 on 92/05/11 GMT (by SBRZAYD at OS2CUST) Subject: Devloping Information panels Probably not very relevent for most people on this board but the /INF switch was available under previous OS/2 development drops (at least for the 1.3 toolkit) but was undocumented. Chris Corry American Management Systems ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 21:02:11 on 92/05/12 GMT (by IL78568 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 C Developer's Workset Promotion I noticed on IBMLink today the promotional offering for the C Developer's Workset/2. I called the number listed 800-342-6672 and the person I talked to said they haven't been informed of the promotion yet. The promotion is an expansion of the offer to Microsft OS/2 SDK owners (the entire workset for $295 (list $895)) to include owners of either the IBM C/2 compiler or the 1.2/1.3 Toolkit. After ordering (only available through 800 number above), you are expected to send your requisite prrof of ownership for the package being upgraded. Now the problem. When I upgraded my OS/2 1.2 toolkit to 1.3, I sent my 1.2 proof-of-license for the upgrade. The 1.3 toolkit technical upgrade did not contain its own proof-of-license. So I now have no proof-of-license to send in for this promotion. I don't think this was an isolated instance since I saw several msgs on the Atlanta BBS where people had the same experience. I do wish to take advantage of this offer, but I need to know what to tell the fulfillment people (or what I could substitute for the license). There is a Program License Agreement Pamphlet and a license information pamphlet - maybe one of these would do. Thanks for any help with this situation. Brooks McNeely ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 21:26:06 on 92/05/12 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) Subject: OS/2 C Developer's Workset Promotion Ref: Append at 21:02:11 on 92/05/12 GMT (by IL78568 at OS2CUST) From: Tim Francis -- WorkFrame/2 development First of all, the promotions (there are 2) are only effective from May 19. If you order before then, you may be charged the full price! The first promotion (Workset/2 for $295) is available to everyone. Period. In addition, eligible customers can acquire either or both of the following: Normal Promotion Program Name Price Price Savings * OS/2 V2.0 Technical $299 $239 $ 60 Library (ie, hardcopy books) * CUA Controls Library/2 (CCL/2) 595 357 238 To be eligible for these two programs, customers must have acquired at least one of the following before May 12, 1992: * IBM OS/2 Programming Tools and Information Version 1.2 or 1.3 * IBM C/2 (TM) Version 1.1. * Microsoft (1) SDK for OS/2 Version 1.2. With respect to what you can use as a proof of licence (for the 2nd promotion), I'll see what I can find out, and will append the answer. -tim ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 19:47:49 on 92/05/13 GMT (by IL78568 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 C Developer's Workset Promotion Ref: Append at 21:26:06 on 92/05/12 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) Thanks for straighteneing me out. I see that I did misread the IBMLink announcement. But it (the announcement letter) never mentions May 19, rather specifying Now until September 5 (I guess someone just jumped the gun and announced it a week too early). One point that I have heard conflicting information on concerns the Technical Library. Do the hard-copy documents included duplicate soft-copy documentation available in the Toolkit, or is this information available only here and not in soft-copy format. Thanks a lot for your clarification. Brooks McNeely ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 20:07:19 on 92/05/13 GMT (by PNWB016 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 C Developer's Workset Promotion Ref: Append at 21:26:06 on 92/05/12 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) Tim: Could we order the Workset and the Technical Library separately? We have a bunch of 1.3 toolkits, and would like to get the Workset ASAP. Thanks... Wayne Holmes U S WEST Communications ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 00:46:52 on 92/05/14 GMT (by 64924111 at TOROHON1) Subject: OS/2 C Developer's Workset Promotion Ref: Append at 21:26:06 on 92/05/12 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) Is this available in Canada? Thanks and regards.....Pete Liukaitis ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 13:12:08 on 92/05/14 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) Subject: OS/2 C Developer's Workset Promotion Ref: Append at 00:46:52 on 92/05/14 GMT (by 64924111 at TOROHON1) From: Tim Francis, WorkFrame/2 development Not currently. As a fellow Canadian, trust me that we're aware of the requirement... -tim ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 13:55:06 on 92/05/15 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) Subject: OS/2 C Developer's Workset Promotion - proof of license Ref: Append at 21:02:11 on 92/05/12 GMT (by IL78568 at OS2CUST) From: Tim Francis -- WorkFrame/2 development Brooks, I have heard back from marketing about this, and was told "we will be quite flexible about this - any proof will do". Hope that helps. -tim ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 13:59:22 on 92/05/15 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) Subject: OS/2 C Developer's Workset Promotion Ref: Append at 20:07:19 on 92/05/13 GMT (by PNWB016 at OS2CUST) From: Tim Francis -- WorkFrame/2 development I don't think ordering the items separately will be a problem. The Workset promotion is available to everyone, so you should be able to phone in your order on the 19th. Then submit the 1.3 toolkit proof of licenses, and get that promotion as well. I see no reason why the orders should be connected. -tim ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 22:22:27 on 92/05/15 GMT (by DGLEDDEN at SFOVMIC1) Subject: Installation on Boot Manager System Ref: Append at 16:33:25 on 92/05/05 GMT (by DGLEDDEN at SFOVMIC1) I have deleted all products and reinstalled WF/2, Toolkit and CSet/2 in that order and did not have a reoccurrence of the wrong config.sys file being updated. It did occur and I have the DOS config.sys saved. I do not know why or how the failure took place, but the delete/install process takes too long to continue testing. Thanks for all the feedback and happy CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCing. Dennis ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 20:39:33 on 92/05/18 GMT (by IL06795 at OS2CUST) Subject: Display Manager What happened to the Display Manager support with V2 of the Toolkit? We got the upgrade and I went looking for a NEW DTLC and nothing||| Whats the word? I like the DM support for quick little apps written in REXX. ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 14:31:38 on 92/05/21 GMT (by UDSS013 at OS2CUST) Subject: NMAKE Conditional Expression I would like to know the correct syntax of an NMAKE expression. Currently, I have: # Add the additional debugging parameters, if requested. !ifdef DEBUG LFLAGS = $(LFLAGS) /DEBUG CCFLAGS = $(CCFLAGS) /Ti+ !endif and that works OK, but I would like to change it to look something like: # Add the additional debugging parameters, if requested. !if (DEBUG == "Y") LFLAGS = $(LFLAGS) /DEBUG CCFLAGS = $(CCFLAGS) /Ti+ !endif but that generates a syntax error (as does the 15 other combinations and variations on the above syntax). The online doc doesn't quite get it for me here. Can someone give me the "magic syntax" for a !IF expression in an NMAKE file? ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 15:18:18 on 92/05/21 GMT (by MOONEY at TOROLAB6) Subject: NMAKE Conditional Expression Ref: Append at 14:31:38 on 92/05/21 GMT (by UDSS013 at OS2CUST) Try !if "$(DEBUG)" == "Y" dave ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 13:37:36 on 92/05/26 GMT (by UDSS013 at OS2CUST) Subject: NMAKE Conditional Expression Thanks Dave. That works great. I guess that was one of the combinations I hadn't tried yet. It makes sense in the context of symbol substitution now that you pointed it out, but I'm not sure I would have stumbled on it myself. I generally think of lexical analyzers that don't resolve inside quotes. Gary Murphy ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 15:17:47 on 92/05/27 GMT (by USCC006 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 C Developer's Workset Promotion I called 1-800-3IBMOS2 to find out how to order the Workset Promotion. It seems that only credit-card orders can be placed at that number. Since I must use a purchase order, I was referred to one of several "800 SOFTWARE" numbers. After bouncing around a few folks, a representative told me she wasn't certain about how I could order and she would get back to me. She did, and her phone message referred me to 1-800-3IBMOS2. Before I get back into this circle of advice, could someone clarify how I might submit a purchase order for Workset/2 and one of the "extra" products? Thanks very much. Jerry Allen - University of South Carolina ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 21:22:55 on 92/05/27 GMT (by SGLIU at RHQVM04) Subject: IBM C Developer's WorkSet/2 Discount Promotion and PO's Jerry, we are aware of the need to be able to handle Purchase Orders. Let me just share with you that we are very close to having the mecha- nism in place to do just that. It will NOT be through 1-800-3IBM-OS2 but a separate IBM 800 number. I hope to be able to announce this on the BBS by this coming Friday or the following Monday. Thanks! Steve Liu IBM PS Product Marketing White Plains, New York RHQVM04(SGLIU) ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 12:29:17 on 92/05/28 GMT (by RRPLYLER at CLTVM3) Subject: Display Manager Ref: Append at 20:39:33 on 92/05/18 GMT (by IL06795 at OS2CUST) If you mean Dialog Manager, it has been dropped. It is no longer supported. Bob Plyler ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 21:41:30 on 92/05/28 GMT (by SGLIU at RHQVM04) Subject: IBM C Developer's WorkSet/2 Promo Available via Purchase Order IBM C DEVELOPER'S WORKSET/2 PROMOTION AVAILABLE VIA PURCHASE ORDER MAY 28, 1992 Effective immediately, customers who wish to participate in the IBM C Developer's WorkSet/2 Discount Promotion and who require the use of Purchase Orders (PO) can do so by calling 1-800-IBM-CALL (1-800- 426-2255) and asking for Marisa. The hours of operation are from 8:00 AM - 7:00 PM (Eastern Time). In addition, orders can be placed through FAX: (303) 440-1639 or IBMLink: DAYVM2(IBMCALL). From May 19, 1992 until September 5, 1992, ANY developer can purchase WorkSet/2 at the special price of $295 (regularly priced at $895), a $600 savings! Credit Card orders will continue to be accepted through 1-800-3IBM-OS2 (1-800-342-6672). The IBM C Developer's WorkSet/2 includes: o IBM C Set/2 Version 1.0, a 32-bit C compiler and a full function PM Debugger; o IBM WorkFrame/2 Version 1.0, an open, configurable, project-oriented application development environment; o IBM Developer's Toolkit for OS/2 2.0, a comprehensive collection of productivity tools and a kernel debugger. Developers who currently own any one (1) of the following three products will be eligible for further discounts on the OS/2 2.0 Technical Library for $239 (regularly $299) and/or the IBM SAA CUA Controls Library/2 (CCL/2) for $357 (regularly $595). CCL/2 provides a set of CUA '91 GUI controls for OS/2 1.3 and Microsoft Windows 3.0 applications. When implemented, these applications will have a similar look-and-feel of OS/2 Version 2.0. * IBM OS/2 Programming Tools and Information Version 1.2/1.3; * IBM C/2 Version 1.1; * Microsoft SDK for OS/2 Version 1.2. Shipment is expected to begin on June 5, 1992, or as soon as supply is available. Customers who acquire the IBM C Developer's WorkSet/2 during this limited-time promotion will receive the OS/2 Developer Magazine at no charge. For further details, please refer to IBM Announcement Letter 392-111, dated 5/12/92. This promotion is available only in the United States. Steve Liu IBM PS Product Marketing White Plains, New York ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 00:19:27 on 92/05/31 GMT (by ZUBER at RALVMM) Subject: BSESUB.H and C Set/2 I had to make the following change in BSESUB.H in order to get the VioGetFont function to work using C Set/2. /* structure for VioGet/SetFont() */ typedef struct _VIOFONTINFO /* viofi */ { USHORT cb; USHORT type; USHORT cxCell; USHORT cyCell; /* PVOID pbData; */ void *_Seg16 pbData; USHORT cbData; } VIOFONTINFO; typedef VIOFONTINFO *PVIOFONTINFO; Clyde Zuber ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 20:05:52 on 92/06/05 GMT (by DJASINSK at WASVMIC1) Hello, my customer has a significant investment in 1.3 development. THey would like to begin moving their applications to 32 bit under 2.0. I understand that 16 bit development can be done under 2.0. I would assume that this is done by using the 16 bit C/2 compiler. Does my customer then link 16 bit only applications thru the 1.3 toolkit? Will the above work? Now, when they want to code in MIxed mode. THe 32 bit C set/2 compiler generates only 32 bit code. Right? So they would compile the the modules and then link them with the Developers toolkit for 2.0. Will this scenerio work? We understand that the 2.0 toolkit is 'better' than the 1.3 toolkit; can my customer use the 2.0 toolkit for 16bit, 32bit, mixed mode? Finally should my customer venture into this mixed mode environment, should he anticipate many problems??? Thanks for your help David Jasinski 202-515-4047 ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 02:06:02 on 92/06/06 GMT (by DHAIGH at RALVM14) Subject: Mix mode programming Ref: Append at 20:05:52 on 92/06/05 GMT (by DJASINSK at WASVMIC1) You can generate 16 bit modules with the 1.3 toolkit, and IBM C/2 or MSC 6.0. You generate 32 bit modules with the 2.0 toolkit and C Set/2. You can link 16 bit modules with other 16 bit modules using the 1.3 linker (LINK.EXE) or the 32 bit linker (LINK386.EXE). If you link them with the 32 bit linker you cannot use them under OS/2 1.3. You link 32 bit modules together with LINK386. You can mix the 16 & 32 bit modules together with LINK386. You cannot use the 2.0 toolkit to generate 16 bit modules. Its include files (*.h) are 32 bit API definitions. You must use the 1.3 toolkit. C Set/2 allows you to call 16 bit modules by providing _Seg16 pointer typing, stack manipulation, tiled memory, and the proper linkage. The 16 bit versions of OS/2 APIs still exist in the 2.0 libraries but are renamed (Dos16LoadModule for example). This allows a 32 bit module allocate something a 16 bit module requires by using the 16 bit API. One problem mixing modes is with common routines used by both 16 & 32 bit modules. If you compile a 16 bit module with reference to a C function (such as malloc) and then link it with the 32 bit C library, it will not work. 16 bit modules need to link to 16 bit C libraries. 32 bit modules need to link to 32 bit C libraries. To do this may require putting one mode's code in a DLL. Mix mode programming can be done, but you need to be careful. Improper linkage or improper pointer types do cause problems, but it does allow staged migration rather than complete switch over. Doug Haigh ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 13:32:09 on 92/06/08 GMT (by MOONEY at TOROLAB6) Subject: BSESUB.H and C Set/2 Ref: Append at 00:19:27 on 92/05/31 GMT (by ZUBER at RALVMM) Yep, that's a bug in the toolkit all right. I'll see that a PTR gets opened for the next release. If you want an APAR opened, you'll have to do that 'through the appropriate channels'. dave ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 16:58:26 on 92/06/08 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Subject: OS2/2.0 Toolkit Errata PLEASE MAKE NOTE OF THE FOLLOWING ERRATA IN BOTH THE ONLINE AND PRINTED VERSIONS OF THE OS/2 2.0 TOOLKIT PRESENTATION MANAGER REFERENCE: 1. DM_PRINTOBJECT (Direct Manipulation message) Change pDragItem parameter to pDragInfo. 2. BMK_SETDIMENSIONS (in Notebook Control message) Change the usType valid values BKA_MAJOR and BKA_MINOR to BKA_MAJORTAB AND BKA_MINORTAB. 3. FIELDINFO datatype Add the following sentence to the description of CFA_BITMAPORICON in the flTitle field. If CFA_BITMAPORICON is not specified, any data that is not assigned to the column heading is assumed to be character or text data. 4. MINIRECORDCORE and RECORDCORE DATATYPES Change the name of the pNextRecord field to preccNextRecord. 5. WinQueryButtonCheckstate (Window Functions) Add the following to both the syntax and the example code after the define for INCL_WINWONDOWMGR #define INCL_WINBUTTONS Change the ChkState = WinQueryButtonCheckState line in the example code to reflect lower case s in Checkstate Irv Spalten BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 22:11:41 on 92/06/08 GMT (by SHER at BCRVMPC1) Subject: OS2/2.0 Toolkit Errata Ref: Append at 16:58:26 on 92/06/08 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Item 2 of this append should read BKM_SETDIMENSIONS and not BMK_SETDIMENSIONS (info was given to Irv incorrectly.) Sherri McEwan ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 21:52:52 on 92/06/09 GMT (by SHER at BCRVMPC1) Subject: OS2/2.0 Toolkit Errata Ref: Append at 16:58:26 on 92/06/08 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Change the description of CFA_BITMAPORICON under #3 of this append to read: If CFA_BITMAPORICON is not specified, any data that is assigned to the column heading is assumed to be character or text data. Sherri McEwan ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 01:15:06 on 92/06/14 GMT (by IL62174 at OS2CUST) Subject: PJ03671 does not include corresponding .SYM file for PMSPL.DLL We have had to use PJ03671 to correct printing problems on some of our systems. I noticed that it didn't include the matching symbol file for kernel debugging. I seem to recall someone, somewhere, promising that an attempt would be made to ship the .SYM with all changes and fixes. For now, we are keeping one machine at GA level to allow KDB use, but this will not be feasible for long. What ARE the plans to keep these in synch? Thanks.. ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 06:47:53 on 92/06/18 GMT (by LINSUSAN at HKGVM8) Subject: Writing DOS and Windows code In OS/2 1.3 Developer's toolkit, we had the capability to run and compile family applications/DLLs to run in both OS/2 and DOS environments. However, I can't seem to find such flexibility in the toolkit for OS/2 2.0. what is the recommended way to develop programs to run under the MVDM and the WIN-OS2 sessions in the 2.0 integrated environemnt? I need to develop a program to communicate between the OS/2, DOS and the Windows environment. Which toolkit should I use? Susan S. Lin ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 23:08:17 on 92/06/18 GMT (by THRUMD at SYDVM1) Subject: Writing DOS and Windows code Ref: Append at 06:47:53 on 92/06/18 GMT (by LINSUSAN at HKGVM8) C-Set/2 etc can only be used to develop 32-bit OS/2 applications. For 16 bit OS/2 applications, DOS, or Windows applications you must continue to use whatever tools you used before to build them. Dave ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 11:35:49 on 92/06/19 GMT (by IL21834 at OS2CUST) Subject: Reverse Compile .INF Does anyone know if there is a way to "reverse compile" a *.INF file? It would be nice to reverse compile some of the INF files provided with OS/2; I use the VIEW and .INF files for providing support documentation for internally developed applications; often we need to instruct our users on using an OS/2 command and it would be real convenient to copy "tagged" text in. Not to mention the value in seeing some good examples. Thank You Ken Prince EI DuPont ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 03:44:35 on 92/06/20 GMT (by IL22993 at OS2CUST) Subject: Unable to open input files We just installed our copy of the Developers Toolkit. Two of the IPF books fail to open. The CP Reference and the PM reference. I assume that there possibly should be a SET statemnt for PMREF (since there is no PMREF.INF) as well as PROGREF20. The paths did get updated into the Config.SYS. Can anyone tell me either what the SET statements in config.sys should look like, or what files I might be missing? Is there an inventory of what should have been installed? Any help would be greatly appreciated. The manuals are great when everything goes perfectly, but when Murphy strikes, it is disappointing to not find anything to help fix the problems. Thanks... George Clark ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 12:42:46 on 92/06/21 GMT (by IL21834 at OS2CUST) Subject: Unable to open input files The two SET statements you need are: SET PROGREF20=GUIREF20.INF SET PMREF=PMFUN.INF+PMGPI.INF+PMMSG.INF+PMWIN.INF Ken Prince EI DuPont ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 01:28:09 on 92/06/22 GMT (by WZ00506 at OS2CUST) Subject: KwikInf and CTC's SPF/2 Has anyone used CTC's SPF/2 with KwikInf active? I find that I am unable to ex it SPF/2 when KwikInf is active, the screen goes blank, and all keys except CAD are disabled (more accurately, cause my machine to beep at me). No Ctrl-Esc, etc., nothing I can do but reboot. I have other VIO programs that I run fullsc reen, so it's certainly nothing endemic to that. Ron Hester ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 12:20:16 on 92/06/22 GMT (by PASPUNG at CARVM3) Subject: Writing DOS and Windows code Ref: Append at 06:47:53 on 92/06/18 GMT (by LINSUSAN at HKGVM8) Yes, you must use the same tools, but there are also some new tools available. For example, CUA Controls Library/2 (CCL/2) provides controls for Windows and OS/2 1.3 apps that allow your apps to have a consistent user interface on the Windows and OS/2 platforms. Here's an excerpt from announcement letter number 292-114: NUMBER 292-114 DATE 920303 CATEGORY WS00, WS20, GI00, GI05, AS10 TYPE Programming TITLE IBM SAA COMMON USER ACCESS CONTROLS LIBRARY/2 VERSION 1.0 ABSTRACT IBM SAA (TM) Common User Access (TM) Controls Library/2 Version 1.0 provides a set of CUA (TM) 91 graphical user interface controls for OS/2 (R) Version 1.3 and Microsoft (1) Windows (2) Version 3.0 applications. With these controls, users can now have consistent Common User Access applications across OS/2 Version 2.0, OS/2 Version 1.3 and Windows Version 3.0. In providing the Presentation Manager (R) Application Programming Interface (API) for the SAA CUA 91 architecture, Common User Access Controls Library aides in migration from OS/2 Version 1.3 and Windows Version 3.0 to OS/2 Version 2.0. For OS/2 Version 1.3 users, the controls provided by Common User Access Controls Library include container, value set, notebook, slider, file dialog and font dialog. For Windows Version 3.0 users, the controls provided by Common User Access Controls Library include spin button, container, value set, notebook slider, file dialog and font dialog. As an example, all of the "settings" in OS/2 2.0 use a little notebook with tabs. You can provide the same interface in your Windows and OS/2 1.3 apps using CCL/2. Peter A. Spung, IBM Application Platform Products MDQ Chair, Cary, NC (TEAMOS2) ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 21:54:45 on 92/06/22 GMT (by IL22993 at OS2CUST) Subject: Unable to open input files Ref: Append at 12:42:46 on 92/06/21 GMT (by IL21834 at OS2CUST) A million thanks for that one... The mystery is why the install managed to set all the path statements but missed the INF set statements... George Clark ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 22:06:34 on 92/06/22 GMT (by IL75626 at OS2CUST) Subject: Programmatic Printing Help Needed We have a need to duplicate the functionality provided by the OS/2 operating system regarding printing windows and screens. The "Print Screen" button works from the WP Shell, but we have the need to have this same functionality in our program. Our target hardware does not have a keyboard so we have a print window/screen option in our menu. Does anyone know if there is an API for this functionality? Thank you, Danielle Cohen (Hewlett-Packard ISD-Sunnyvale) Danielle MS Cohen, HP ISD ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 22:43:30 on 92/06/22 GMT (by SHER at BCRVMPC1) ..... OS2TLKIT CFORUM modified at 14:53:51 on 92/06/24 GMT (by SHER at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Unable to open input files Ref: Append at 12:42:46 on 92/06/21 GMT (by IL21834 at OS2CUST) This statement is not complete. (It was complete for 1.2 and 1.3 but 2.0 Reference is larger and required more .INF files.) The correct set statement for the 2.0 online PM REference is: SET PMREF=PMFUN.INF+PMGPI.INF+PMHOK.INF+PMMSG.INF+PMREL.INF+PMWIN.INF+PMWKP.INF Sherri McEwan ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 13:58:01 on 92/06/24 GMT (by SAMEH at YKTVMH) Subject: Can't access PM Reference or CP Reference books After installing the Developer's Toolkit for OS/2 2.0 I am unable to access either the PM Reference or CP Reference books. Did I miss something during the installation or is this a known bug? Sameh A. Fakhouri ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 14:20:23 on 92/06/24 GMT (by LINSUSAN at HKGVM8) Subject: compiling and linking 16-bit OS/2 API programs in 2.0 I have a sample program which calls the AS/400 PC Support API's. This sample program was compiled using MS C 6.0 and OS/2 1.3 toolkit. Therefore these must be 16 bit API's. How do I call these API's in a 32 bit program developed using C Set/2, Toolkit 2.0? Unfortunaly the DLL that came with this API must be a 16 bit DLL. I seem to recall that I can call a 16 bit DLL from a 32 bit program. What changes must I make to the header file? Right now the header contains statements such as : extern int extentry QSNDDTAQ(........... but my compiler doesn't like it. How about any special options I must set to compile and link this? Susan S. Lin ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 16:43:25 on 92/06/29 GMT (by DAWALL at RCHVMW) Subject: Calling 16 bit DLLs with CSet/2 code Reference: Susan Lin's previous append on calling 16 bit PC Support APIs The information in your append is correct. PC Support/400 has only 16 bit DLLs. They can be called from 32 bit code, however. The CSet/2 User's Guide has good information in chapter 16 (calling conventions) on how to do this. The highlights are: 1) Declare the APIs as 16 bit calls 2) Declare pointers used in the API calls as segment/offset pointers 3) Make sure large data areas used by the DLLs do not cross 64K boundaries (a pragma does this) 4) Use long/short NOT int 5) Watch alignment of structures. CSet/2 may align on double word boundaries. David Wall AS/400 PC Support Shared Folders ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 17:45:29 on 92/06/29 GMT (by WZ00576 at OS2CUST) Subject: RequestSem prototypes incmpatible with constants DosRequestEventSem and MutexSem are documented to take a -1 as the last argument to mean "forever', but the prototype is unsigned long. The compiler warns about passing -1 to an unsigned. Benson Margulies ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 18:33:59 on 92/06/30 GMT (by SDETWEIL at DETVMIC4) Subject: RequestSem prototypes incmpatible with constants Ref: Append at 17:45:29 on 92/06/29 GMT (by WZ00576 at OS2CUST) Use the defined constant in the header file SEM_INDEFINITE_WAIT -1L Sam ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 19:00:59 on 92/06/30 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) Subject: Reverse Compile .INF Ref: Append at 11:35:49 on 92/06/19 GMT (by IL21834 at OS2CUST) I am not sure what you mean by reverse compile. If you want data dynamically formatted at run-time, you can use DDF to put dynamically "tagged" text into the document. See topics: "Application-Controlled Windows", "Communication Objects", "Dynamic Data Formatting", and ":docprof. (Document Profile)" (particularly the 'DLL=' parameter) in the "Information Presentation Facility" book in the Toolkit Information folder. Nathan Davis ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 17:20:11 on 92/07/01 GMT (by IL21834 at OS2CUST) Subject: Reverse Compile .INF Ref: Append at 19:00:59 on 92/06/30 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) By reverse compile I mean the following: To create a VIEW'able file you execute "IPFC xxxx.ipf /INF" The input is an ASCII text file(tagged with IPF tags) The output is a xxxx.inf which is a "binary" internal format; you cannot see the IPF tags or determine the resource id's for headings etc. It would be useful to be able to execute a program which would take as input xxxx.inf and create as output xxxx.ipf. There is available on some OS2 BBS's a REXX pgm that converts .HLP files to .INF files. I would like to concatenate CMDREF.INF to my .INF documents and in those sections where I need to reference an OS/2 command actually :link. to the heading in CMDREF. I cannot do this without knowing the res= on the :hx. tag. Being able to reverse compile CMDREF.INF would enable me to see the IPF tags so I can link. Or I could just copy that heading into my .IPF file and compile. This is a "sure would be nice to have" item. If IBM could provide me with the specifications for the .HLP and .INF files I would write one myself. Thanks for the response; I did read those sections you mentioned and learned about those capabilities; but not quite what I was looking for. Ken Prince EI DuPont ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 17:58:35 on 92/07/02 GMT (by XXBCTE25 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Base API support in Toolkt!? I'm currently attempting to get up to speed with the IBM tools. I'm attempting to port a simple 16 bit PM utility and have found that I can't call all the supported 2.0 API's under the IBM tools. Specifically, I need to use the DosMonXXX device monitor API's. There is an INCL_DOSMONITORS directive in BSEDOS.H and some ordinal defs, but no API prototypes. Also, these API's are not listed in OS2386.LIB (but are in OS2286.LIB (what's this lib for anyway?). I realize these are16 bit API's, but there are plenty of other 16 bit API's supported via header files. I've been coding freely for OS/2 for 4 years using C 6.0. Why can't I do the same under C Set/2? Claude Biron ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 18:12:37 on 92/07/02 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Base API support in Toolkt!? Ref: Append at 17:58:35 on 92/07/02 GMT (by XXBCTE25 at TORVMCOP) This and the VIO calls are not portable calls, you should avoid to using them. you can still use them with MIGRATE but will not be carried over to the next few releases. (os/2 3.x or whatever they'll call it.) it is in the library for backward compatibility reasons only, and not for developing new apps. Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 20:20:04 on 92/07/02 GMT (by XXBCTE25 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Base API support in Toolkt!? Ref: Append at 18:12:37 on 92/07/02 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Are you saying the IBM 32bit tools are only for writing portable apps and not for taking full advantage of *all* 2.0 support calls? If so I have to chuck it. I don't care about portability right now. I only care about the kinds of things I can do under 2.0. When porability becomes a real issue I'll be starting/writing new projects (I don't expect to do this for at least two years). Not all API's are in the migration. The DosMonXXX stuff Kbd Vio are not in the linkable libraries. Since mixed 16/32 bit calls are supported, why not have access to EVERY api available? If an app runs under 2.0, I should be able to produce it with the IBM tools. I can live with the fact that such apps will not run under future versions. Claude Biron ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 22:03:46 on 92/07/02 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Base API support in Toolkt!? Ref: Append at 20:20:04 on 92/07/02 GMT (by XXBCTE25 at TORVMCOP) Claude, don't blame me, This is what I knew, the VIO, KBD, .. calls are just 16 bit and there are NO 32 bit parts. Reading the reasons in the MSJ (?!) two years ago I'm convinced . Someone from Toronto Lab could explain it. Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 14:19:35 on 92/07/03 GMT (by WZ00576 at OS2CUST) Subject: LINK386, L2025, libraries, what's it telling me? trying to link up a program which links with several libraries. In one case, two libraries each contain a .obj file that defines the same symbols -- the second is a default behind the first. I'm getting L2025 for a set of these symbols. The documentation claims that this means that a symbol is multiply defined IN AN OBJECT FILE. It clearly isn't in this case, I presume that link386 is really complaining about a conflict between two different object files. I am guessing that this is the traditional Unix problem where file 1 defines a, b, and c, and file 2 defines a, b, c, and d. If something uses all of a, b, c, and d, then file 1 loads up with the first three, and then when the linker tries to use file 2 to satisfy d it gets conflicts for a, b, and c. However, examination of the library listings for the libraries containing the two files reveal no symbols defined in file 2 that are missing from file 1, so I'm stumped. Is there any way to find out what link386 thought it was satisfying when it decided to pull in a particular library file from a library? Also, is link386 one or two passes over libraries? That is, if two libraries have circular symbol dependencies, does one have to list one of them twice? Benson Margulies ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 14:55:16 on 92/07/03 GMT (by 64985842 at TOROHON1) Subject: Base API support in Toolkt!? Ref: Append at 22:03:46 on 92/07/02 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) I'm not from the Lab, but I do know that you are correct when you say that the KBD, VIO, MOU calls are all 16 bit only. However, they are accessible from 32 bit programs with the IBM tools, so Claude you can continue to compile your programs with C-Set/2. How long these calls will be supported is another question, which of course I don't know the answer to. Blair Thompson BLAIR at CANVM2 IBM Canada Ltd. ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 14:20:07 on 92/07/06 GMT (by WZ00576 at OS2CUST) Subject: RequestSem prototypes incmpatible with constants Ref: Append at 18:33:59 on 92/06/30 GMT (by SDETWEIL at DETVMIC4) That is exactly what I am doing. If you examine the header file, the prototype for the timeout is unsigned. that constant to which you refer is NEGATIVE. Its not valid to pass a negative value to an unsigned prototype. Either the prototype should be signed or the constant should be changed to 0xffffffff. Benson Margulies ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 14:40:38 on 92/07/06 GMT (by WZ00576 at OS2CUST) Subject: PMR 2x408 - or - link386 confusing addresses? While I await callback on the PMR I've entered on what I'm about to describe, I figured it wouldn't hurt to enter it here and see if anyone has any hints: I've built up a jumbo application with c/set2 and link386 (and lib). At runtime, using ipmd, I step through a call to a function. One of the arguments is a constant string (literally in the code between double quotes). The address loaded into EDX for the argument dosen't point to the string. It points to garbage. After much grubbing around, I discovered that the reason is that LINK386 is putting the wrong address into the instruction. When I run icc with /Fa to examine the assembly, the instruction in question is: MOV EDX, OFFSET FLAT: @STATe @STATe is a label at the top of the assembly source that indeed indicates the string in question. LINK386 turns this, not surprisingly, into a MOV EDX,000E7E50H The problem is, 7E50 isn't part of the right object file at all. According to the listing file produced by link386, 7E50 is part of a different object file (actually, the next one). So its not surprising that the result is a pointer to something rather different than the right string. I'm presuming that the program text is read-only, and so the problem can't be accidental self-modification. I'll check for that next, just in case. any help appreciated. Benson Margulies ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 15:10:30 on 92/07/06 GMT (by MOONEY at TOROLAB6) Subject: Base API support in Toolkt!? Ref: Append at 22:03:46 on 92/07/02 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Yes, those routines are 16-bit only. They are tied quite closely to the PC's hardware architecture, so they wouldn't necessarily be portable to other systems if/when OS/2 is available on other platforms. So Boca decided to deprecate their use by not migrating them to 32-bit. They are still around in 16-bit mode (and will continue to be around as long as OS/2 runs 1.x executables). As for the question of why some of these routines are still prototyped in <bsesub.h> but other's aren't, I must admit that I don't know. The headers are written by the toolkit group in Boca Raton (not by the C Set/2 group in Toronto), so one of their number will have to give the final word on this. dave ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 16:38:43 on 92/07/06 GMT (by PNWB016 at OS2CUST) Subject: LINK386 message L2050 - What does it mean in English? When attempting to link a 16 bit object file to a 32bit program I receive the following message: LINK386.EXE @SMCFREL.@0 Operating System/2 LX (Linear Executable) Linker Version 2.00.000 Feb 25 1992 Copyright (C) IBM Corporation 1988-1992. Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp. 1988-1992. All rights reserved. Object Modules ì.obj┘: /CO + Object Modules ì.obj┘: host.OBJ + Object Modules ì.obj┘: relmain.OBJ + Object Modules ì.obj┘: relwin.OBJ + Object Modules ì.obj┘: srpi_c.obj Run File ìhost.exe┘: smcfrel.exe List File ìnul.map┘: Libraries ì.lib┘: Definitions File ìnul.def┘: smcfrel.def; LINK386 : error L2050: use16/use32 attribute conflict - segment: CDATA in group From reading the description of the L2050 it sure sounds like I need to put something in my DEF file to resolve this... unfortunately I don't have enough experience to figure out what it is. Any suggestions would be appreciated. BTW... the SRPI_C.OBJ module is shipped with Extended Services 1.0, and needs to be linked with my EXE so my program can call the ES SRPI family of functions. Unfortunately, there is NOTHING in the ES documentation about how to link a 32-bit program with the 16-bit object modules. (I don't find this suprising, since I have encountered several header files shipped with ES that assume the program using them is 16-bit.) Wayne "Thanks for the help" Holmes U S WEST Communications ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 17:13:49 on 92/07/06 GMT (by MOONEY at TOROLAB6) Subject: LINK386 message L2050 - What does it mean in English? Ref: Append at 16:38:43 on 92/07/06 GMT (by PNWB016 at OS2CUST) I think that you'll have to stick srpi_c.obj into its own .dll and link to it that way. Find out what public symbols that srpi_c.obj defines and put those names into the .def file associated with the .dll. (I use the LIB utility which comes with the WorkFrame to do this. Get the .obj file into the file list window and doubleclick on it. Take note of all the identifiers in the PUBDEF and COMDEF windows and put these into the .def file.) Link srpi_c.obj as a .dll and use its .def file when linking smcfrel. I don't think that it's possible to link srpi_c.obj to the .exe directly. dave ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 18:19:18 on 92/07/06 GMT (by WZ00576 at OS2CUST) Subject: PMR 2x408 - or - link386 confusing addresses? Ref: Append at 14:40:38 on 92/07/06 GMT (by WZ00576 at OS2CUST) I've determined that many of the constant strings in my program are getting the same (mis)treatment. I might add that I'm a user of #pragma data_seg. However, these pragmas are always in the source at the end after the strings that are getting bobbled. Benson Margulies ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 03:56:55 on 92/07/07 GMT (by PNWB016 at OS2CUST) Subject: LINK386 message L2050 - What does it mean in English? Ref: Append at 17:13:49 on 92/07/06 GMT (by MOONEY at TOROLAB6) Dave: THANK-YOU THANK-YOU THANK-YOU !!!! I tried your suggestion and it works! You might be interested in knowing the Communications Manager support closed my problem saying what I wanted to do (have a 32-bit program call SRPI) was not supported, and I should have my SE submit a PASR. Since we need to get this project out the door before the millenium <g> I was not very pleased about their answer. (My poor SE's blood pressure wasn't doing very well either.) Thanks again... and be sure to show this message to your boss. You have NO IDEA how much help your suggestion was. (I horsed around with the header file shipped by CM to "32-bit" it, but was getting messed up by the linkage problem.) Wayne "Have I said thanks yet?" Holmes U S WEST Communications ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 10:48:19 on 92/07/07 GMT (by WZ00576 at OS2CUST) Subject: LINK386, L2025, libraries, what's it telling me? Ref: Append at 14:19:35 on 92/07/03 GMT (by WZ00576 at OS2CUST) I did the experiment of removing the .obj file from the second library. This made the link succeed! This is completely mysterious: It means that what we have is: lib1.lib contains a.obj which defined a,b,c,d lib2.lib contains b.obj which contains a,b,c if you feed both .lib files to link386, you get errors for symbols a, b, c. If you remove b.obj from lib2.lib, the link succeeds. Surely this is a bug? I'll submit a PMR. Benson Margulies ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 18:01:00 on 92/07/07 GMT (by FORD at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Can't access PM Reference or CP Reference books Ref: Append at 13:58:01 on 92/06/24 GMT (by SAMEH at YKTVMH) My guess is that you did not select the checkbox which says something to the effect of "Update CONFIG.SYS". I've seen this problem reported, whit the above as the answer on more than one occasion. Ann Ford ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 18:07:27 on 92/07/07 GMT (by WEINMANN at LEXVM2) Subject: Using MSGBIND to bind messages to DLL I am creating a DLL and binding messages to it using MSGBIND. I have separated the message object into it's own segment using the '_MSGSEG32' CLASS 'CODE' entry in my .DEF file because when I first tried it, my messages took the code segment over 64K. Everything seems to be working fine. However, my question is for the future. Am I still working against a 64K limit even though the messages are now in their own segment? Currently, I bind two message files into my DLL increasing the size of it by approximately 35K. In the future, I would like to bind additional message files to my DLL. Will I hit the wall when the new segment goes over 64K? If so, is there any way to go beyond this limitation by defining additional segments? Thanks for any assistance that can be provided. Tim Weinmann (WEINMANN at LEXVMK) ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 15:37:40 on 92/07/08 GMT (by IL62623 at OS2CUST) Subject: IPMD hangs the machine, now what? My program dies with SYS018, I think. ( I didn't capture that code). So I ran it under IPMD. Well, at the point I'd expect the error, the machine hangs. The mouse cursor is the "running program" cursor for IPMD, and nothing responds to mouse clicks. c-alt-del is the order of the moment. Any suggestions? ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 16:53:14 on 92/07/08 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8) Subject: LINK386, L2025, libraries, what's it telling me? Ref: Append at 10:48:19 on 92/07/07 GMT (by WZ00576 at OS2CUST) Benson, Without seeing your exact link listing and the exact names involved in each library, it is difficult to see what might be wrong. This may be a "dumb" suggestion, but might you be running into a problem because of the limit on the number of characters the linker will "honor" in an externalized label? Also, are these data labels or code entry points or both? It may well be a defect in the linker and this is being pursued via the Problem Report you submitted on this. But, if this were a defect I would expect that it would have been reported elsewhere, either internally or from a software developer. I could not find any report of this being a problem in the linker from anyone anywhere. This leads me to believe it must be something unusual about your setup or situation. What other information can you give that may help clarify exactly what is happening? Stephen Poole OS/2 Service and Support - IBM Austin, TX ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 15:11:01 on 92/07/09 GMT (by SAMEH at YKTVMH) Subject: Problem with DosScanEnv definition I am trying to use the DosScanEnv function call and I am running into a compilation problem. The documentation defines the two arguments as PSZ values. However, BSEDOS.H has a function prototype for DosScanEnv with the second argument being a (PSZ *). Is there an error in BSEDOS.H? Sameh A. Fakhouri ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 18:18:27 on 92/07/13 GMT (by PNWB016 at OS2CUST) Subject: Adding Toolkit desktop entries across a LAN Is there a way to have the Toolkit just add the entries to your desktop without having to reinstall the whole thing? We can do this with the Workframe and C/Set, and figure we are just missing the way to do this with the Toolkit. (We have installed Workframe, C/Set and Toolkit on our server and now want to have everybodys desktops updated with entries for all the help and sample programs provided with the toolkit.) Thanks in advance! Wayne "We HAVE to be missing something obvious" Holmes U S WEST Communications ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 22:07:26 on 92/07/13 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Adding Toolkit desktop entries across a LAN Ref: Append at 18:18:27 on 92/07/13 GMT (by PNWB016 at OS2CUST) How about to add one small Rexx file beside to the Read.Me file which recreates all the desktop objects? This should be a standard for all the applications witch more than one executable (like CM,..) By executing this Rexx with one parameter(drive) recreates the environment . It would be great for everyone who ever recreated the whole desktop. Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 12:02:13 on 92/07/15 GMT (by IL62623 at OS2CUST) Subject: LINK386, L2025, libraries, what's it telling me? Ref: Append at 16:53:14 on 92/07/08 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8) I can tell you what's unusual about my situation. Its enormous. I originally submitted this item when I was getting this message for one module in one library. That's when I was linking one of my "smaller' programs -- only, say, 6 libraries and a dozen .obj files. Then I went to link cfront. Closer to 30 .obj files and, in my environment, 15 libraries. I was up to my ears in mysterious problems. Symbols that appeared in the LIB.EXE .lst file were listed as missing. Symbols that shouldn't have been duplicated were duplicated. In desparation, I stopped using .LIB files entirely, and just enumerated all of the relevant .obj files. It linked without error. I've been awaiting a callback on a PMR for this problem for a week and a half, so I frankly despair of resolution via that means. Perhaps now that the july vacation is over someone will call me. ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 13:52:55 on 92/07/16 GMT (by RICHKULP at CARVM3) ..... OS2TLKIT CFORUM modified at 19:31:39 on 92/07/16 GMT (by RICHKULP at CARVM3) Subject: Lost my Class List object and My Car. || || Figured out how to bring back the class list: || res = SysRegisterObjectClass('WPKlist', 'WPCLSLST') || Say 'Register result='res || || res = SysCreateObject('WPKlist', "Class List", "<WP_DESKTOP>") || Say 'Create result='res || ||| And, since I got Class List back, I was able to register Car, ||| and create an instance of it using Class List program. I had to reinstall my system, and somewhere along the line I lost the object for the Class Lister from the Toolkit. Does anybody know the SysCreateObject Rexx command needed to recover it? | I also lost the Car Sample. (I'm not even sure if I didn't loose the | Class for Car itself, so I would need the Register information too). Thanks, Rich Kulp ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 20:07:59 on 92/07/16 GMT (by MARTZ at GDLVM2) Subject: Erroneous data defs in ".INF" for toolkit?? Apologies if this has been discussed previously. I looked at earlier entries to this forum and didn't see anything about this. It looks to me as though there is a serious mismatch between the definitions provided in the ".inf" on-line doc and the actual ".h" files used by the compiler for the various data structures. Here's what happened to me. I compiled a simple 'educational' program that called DosFindFirst. I looked up the definition for the FILEFINDBUF3 struct in the Control Program on-line ref. When my program wouldn't compile because of syntax errors, I used PM Seek to locate the ".h" file containing the definition of FILEFINDBUF3 the compiler uses. The two don't match in a number of places! Control Program on-line Ref \TOOLKT20\C\OS2H\BSEDOS.H =============================== ================================ typedef struct _FILEFINDBUF3 { typedef struct _FILEFINDBUF3 { ULONG uloNextEntryOffset; ULONG oNextEntryOffset; FDATE fdateCreation; FDATE fdateCreation; FTIME ftimeCreation; FTIME ftimeCreation; FDATE fdateLastAccess; FDATE fdateLastAccess; FTIME ftimeLastAccess; FTIME ftimeLastAccess; FDATE fdateLastWrite; FDATE fdateLastWrite; FTIME ftimeLastWrite; FTIME ftimeLastWrite; ULONG ulcbFile; ULONG cbFile; ULONG ulcbFileAlloc; ULONG cbFileAlloc; ULONG ulattrFile; ULONG attrFile; UCHAR uccchName; UCHAR cchName; CHAR chachNameìCCHMAXPATHCOMP┘ CHAR achName-CCHMAXPATHCOMP-; } FILEFINDBUF3; } FILEFINDBUF3; The definitions for FDATE & FTIME seem to be wrong too. What's going on? If these are errors (and I think they are) when can we expect a corrected version of the on-line docs where all the data structs in the doc match those the compiler actually uses? John Martz "Better products through conferencing!" MARTZ at GDLVM2 tie 852-5979 Prodigy: CCCR60A Glendale Lab/Endicott, NY ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 21:45:26 on 92/07/21 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST) Subject: SOM without a HOME Forgive the cute name (but we grab attention where we can...) Since the SOM compiler (SC.EXE) comes WITH the toolkit, it seemed reasonable to me to expect it would be INTEGRATED. Aside from the purely rhetorical "What Happened???", how about: "Can it be Integrated???" I have spent the last couple of days in the Workframe and Toolkit. As a Borland diehard (I confess) I expected >> something else <<. However, all bashing aside, is there a GOOD way to simulate SOM integration??? I have tried some of the more obvious routes: Adding it to the Tools, setting up Rexx/command files, etc. What I really WANT is SOM to be defined as an ACTION in the Make File Creation box. It seems a reasonable request. After all, the Resource Compiler, IPF compiler, etc are all there -- SOM should be too!!! Please let me know if I have missed one of the INNUMEROUS read.me.pleases, add ons, or miscellaneous tid bits. I scanned this forum and Workplace and did not view any obvious references. I would be thankful to anyone who would care to share their SOM insights. Please, let's Find SOM a HOME !!!! (How about a SOM BASE??? Workplace is very "user oriented") Dan Lundy Time Customer Service, Inc. Tampa, Fl ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 00:51:06 on 92/07/24 GMT (by IL22868 at OS2CUST) Subject: Adding Toolkit desktop entries across a LAN Ref: Append at 18:18:27 on 92/07/13 GMT (by PNWB016 at OS2CUST) During the re-installs of the several OS/2 2.0 Betas, I got tired of re-installing the Toolkit, so I invested several hours of effort and built a PIP file to rebuild the Toolkit group. With the GA release of the Toolkit, I polished it and added the Car installation procedure using REXX. If you know of a place where I could upload it to, I would be happy to do so. Ken Singer ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 14:35:07 on 92/07/24 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) Subject: SOM without a HOME Ref: Append at 21:45:26 on 92/07/21 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST) From: Tim Francis -- WorkFrame/2 development You're absolutely right; SOM (and other tools) should be a project specific ACTION, as opposed to global TOOLS. Unfortunately, this is not possible in version 1. We intend to correct this for version 2 of WorkFrame. Although it's not ideal, are you aware that you can double click on either the .MAK or .DEP windows (in the make file creation utility), and hand edit the file? If you have any questions about this, or using any tools under WorkFrame, please ask (over in WRKFRAME CFORUM is best), and I'll do my best to help. -tim ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 16:12:55 on 92/07/27 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST) Subject: SOM without a HOME Ref: Append at 14:35:07 on 92/07/24 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) I was aware of the manual edit feature <btw, I like it!> but was hoping for better integration of a facility I think is crucial to the desktop. I CAN wait for future versions to integrate this tool. BTW, I am pushing (in a couple of forums) for a SOM Forum. One is NEEDED! Please pass it along where you can. Thanks! Dan Lundy Time Customer Service, Inc. Tampa, Fl ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 14:00:41 on 92/07/29 GMT (by XXSUNL45 at TORVMCOP) Subject: WPClsLst I installed the toolkit on my machine again and following the instruction in READ.ME booted without WPS and deleted the WPCLSLST.DLL so install can proceed. After install I have 2 objects in my toolkit folder named WPCLSLST and WPCLSLST:1. How do I get rid of one of them? regards, Wilf Lee ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 18:49:49 on 92/08/04 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST) Subject: WPClsLst Ref: Append at 14:00:41 on 92/07/29 GMT (by XXSUNL45 at TORVMCOP) I have a similar problem. I don't know how I did it, but my <template> contains almost TWO of everything. Reiterated: How do we get rid of them politely?? I MOVE my duplicates to a diskette, then delete them. Is this a good way? It works, but I think I am missing something. Dan Lundy Time Customer Service, Inc. Tampa, Fl ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 01:06:52 on 92/08/05 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) Subject: Erroneous data defs in ".INF" for toolkit?? Ref: Append at 20:07:59 on 92/07/16 GMT (by MARTZ at GDLVM2) Just from looking at your post, the definitions seem to be identical from a linkage point of view. The variable names don't have to match (you shouldn't be able to use them in your code). All the compiler is interested in is the data types. And the linker only cares about the function name. Nathan Davis ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 09:41:18 on 92/08/05 GMT (by RJMOORE at NHBVM4) Subject: Re-installing Toolkit Ref: I originally installed GA toolkit without the online documentation - that was fine. Yesterday I decided I'd like the TOOLs reference but not the technical library as have printed versions of that. So I entered A:install and selected documentation only. That was fine until the install process tried to delete the sample programs and tools that I had previoulky installed. That was a real surprise!! Not only that but it failed to complete the job beacuse the DLLs were in the LIBPATH and therefore inuse. Installation failed leaving me with half a toolkit. A full installation would not work either - same reason couldn't delete some of the old stuff. Finally I removed all references to TOOLKT20 from my CONFIG.SYS, manually deleted the program files and folders and re-installed TOOLKT. That worked except the online references didn't have book icons, just the defaults. Surely one can install features that haven't already been installed without having to delete existing stuff - this seems wrong. Have I missed some cryptic ionstructions somewhere? Why didn't I get the book icons? And finally why isn't it possible to selectively install the online docs. 8Mb can mean a lot of space to a home user. BTW I have manually achieved the subset of online doc (with icons) but I would like to know is the installation procedure so inflexible or have I missed something vital? Richard Moore ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 11:13:03 on 92/08/05 GMT (by RAYMONDJ at FSHVMX) Subject: NMAKE ERRORS Ref: Where does one find the documentation about errors from NMAKE, I have gotten a U1071 error and I can't find where it is documented. J. Raymond (RAYMONDJ @ FSHVMX) 1992/08/05 07:09 EDT ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 12:11:19 on 92/08/05 GMT (by RJMOORE at NHBVM4) Subject: NMAKE ERRORS Ref: Append at 11:13:03 on 92/08/05 GMT (by RAYMONDJ at FSHVMX) I also got a U4007. Seems to be implying NMAKE can't handle HPFS format names. Is this correct? Richard Moore ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 12:28:33 on 92/08/05 GMT (by ADUNSMUI at TOROLAB6) Subject: NMAKE ERRORS Ref: Append at 12:11:19 on 92/08/05 GMT (by RJMOORE at NHBVM4) Its a bug in the code - it doesn't check the OS/2 version correctly. WRKFRAME CFORUM has a discussion and patch, but since it's part of the Toolkit further discussion should be continued here. Al Dunsmuir - Appended at 08:26:45 AM EDT on 92/08/05 ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 19:21:40 on 92/08/10 GMT (by SAMRILEY at BCRVMPC1) Subject: NMAKE ERRORS As the IBM developer now responsible for NMAKE maintenance, I agree that not handling long filenames is a defect in the NMAKE program shipped with the 2.0 Developer's Toolkit on 3/31/92. We will provide a fix to this in the next update to the Toolkit. Scott Riley OS/2 Application Development Tools Boca Raton ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 13:54:21 on 92/08/13 GMT (by A157623 at OS2CUST) Subject: Missing Functions What a shock to see the new toolkit documentation and find several APIs removed|| Oh I know DosGetPID can be emulated through another routine, but that is not source level upward compatible now is it? For those who took the segment allocation route in their programs instead of malloc, will have to re-do all of that code (sorry) and I can understand why. But other routines that have nothing to do with 32-bit, flat model being removed?? Or even better is the absence of information altogether| With the DosGetInfoSeg API I could determine what screen group my program was running in. I can not find the same information in the 'replacement' routines. Now what? My application needs to know that piece of data. How can I build a 32-bit version? It seems every release of the toolkit looks less like the previous. In 1.3, various structures and defines were removed from the 1.2 version. I can and have built a special header file to carry forward the dropped items. But now I must write code to keep my source in sync| Do you think this is related to the slow delivery of 32-bit applications? Nah. Just learn a new compiler, a new linker, a new debugger, change your source, test and you're done| Larry "is it just me?" Mason ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 08:01:13 on 92/08/14 GMT (by 70610226 at EHONE) Subject: Missing Functions Ref: Append at 13:54:21 on 92/08/13 GMT (by A157623 at OS2CUST) "Old" API are still available, here is an example which demontrate how to use them: DosSetFileMode has desappeared (yet a very useful API) to use it: #define DosSetFileMode DOS16SETFILEMODE #pragma linkage(DOS16SETFILEMODE,far16 _pascal) extern USHORT DosSetFileMode(char *_Seg16,USHORT,ULONG); Then use the API as usual. P.L. PETIT I/S France. ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 12:30:40 on 92/08/14 GMT (by XXPRMN01 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Missing Functions Ref: Append at 08:01:13 on 92/08/14 GMT (by 70610226 at EHONE) Part of the reason for changing the functions mentioned is that both better protection is being done by the new functions through the consolidation, and since the whole memory model has changed, the information had to change as well. Yes, the changes are a pain especially when a lot of them are just name changes, but the ones you have referenced had there functionality changed. I think you will find only damage done in the Dos* calls area and not so much in the Gpi* and Win* calls if that is any consolidation. Matt Smith, Prominare Inc. ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 21:31:37 on 92/08/14 GMT (by V$IMIKEB at AUSVM1) Subject: NMAKE working too hard? A customer has noticed that NMAKE seems to think that "out-of-date" means that the timestamp on the target is older than OR EQUAL to that of the dependency. In other words, if both files have the same timestamp, the command for that target will be run. AIX only runs the command if the target is explicitly older than the dependency. Is this W.A.D.? Seems a little strange. Mike Brown OS/2 Tech Support ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 18:20:11 on 92/08/17 GMT (by UDSS013 at OS2CUST) Subject: Missing Functions | I must write code to keep my source in sync. Do you think this is relate | | the slow delivery of 32-bit applications? Nah. Just learn a new compile | | new linker, a new debugger, change your source, test and you're done. | I understand your frustration. It's no fun to recode working code, but that's part of progress. Most of the changes were for good or manditory reasons and I agree with IBM's decisions. Obviously, the memory allocation had to change. The new semphore model is much better than the old. Some of the changes were to position the API for portability (ie. the Vio Kbd and Mou calls). Others were name changes to make the API more consistent. Most of the changes to the API have been published for a LONG time. I found two-year-old docs in Microsoft Systems Journal and started writing 16-bit code 2-plus years ago in anticipation of OS/2 v2.0 in that I used malloc and planned my semaphore use carefully. As for the manual effort of changing code, I wrote two Kedit macros that did 99%+ of the "busy work" in porting the code. I was able to port my application (approx 9,000 lines of code) in under 30 hours. Anyone who wants to use those Kedit macros can find them on the Mansfield BBS. If I think about it, I will upload them to OS2DEV on CompuServe. You can also get the code on the Hilbert Computing BBS at (913) 829-2450 8N1 9600. Look for OSPORT.ZIP in the (default) UTILITY file section. If you think WE have it bad, just think what the Win/DOS developers are going to go through moving to Win/NT... API changes, 16 to 32-bit, PLUS additional learning curves for pipes, queues, semaphores and multiple Gary Murphy ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 21:14:04 on 92/08/18 GMT (by IL71794 at OS2CUST) Subject: LINK386 and a L4038 link error? What causes a L4038 link error using LINK386.EXE? I have a small 16 bit C DLL that is compiled using OS/2 v1.3 header files and linked with LINK386.EXE that I keep getting a L4038 link error. Chris Eytalis ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 22:47:37 on 92/08/18 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST) Subject: NMAKE ERRORS Ref: Append at 19:21:40 on 92/08/10 GMT (by SAMRILEY at BCRVMPC1) Thank You Scott!! I followed this thread on the WorkFrame forum AND Compuserve: "Subject: NMAKE Errors Ref: Append at 17:21:48 on 92/08/04 GMT (by RAYMONDJ at FSHVMX) From: Tim Francis -- WorkFrame/2 development I can't find that error documented (on-line) either... but you'd do better asking your question in OS2TLKIT (C)FORUM (NMAKE is part of the toolkit, not WorkFrame). -tim " FYI, the earliest reference I can find is in the OS2DEV forum: It is message #939 from John J. Hughes II to John Richards. The thread went on for about two weeks. I can trace it back to at least April!! I appreciate your attitude and your promise. It is nice to know that I am not crazy. A NMAKE update would make HPFS available for development at last. Dan Lundy Time Customer Service, Inc. Tampa, Fl ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 12:31:11 on 92/08/19 GMT (by MOONEY at TOROLAB6) Subject: NMAKE ERRORS Ref: Append at 22:47:37 on 92/08/18 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST) Here's a fix which someone posted on CI$. No warranty express or implied don't try this at home professionals only use only under supervision not to be taken internally etc. For NMAKE version 2.000.000, file size 88013 and file date 3-30-92 use the PATCH utility and specify file offset 7B34. The data at this location should be: 80 3E 6D 15 14 ... The 14 is the version number. Change this to 00. Thus the data should now be: 80 3E 6D 15 00 ... dave ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 15:24:09 on 92/08/19 GMT (by V$IPAULD at BCRVMPC1) Subject: LINK386 and a L4038 link error? Ref: Append at 21:14:04 on 92/08/18 GMT (by IL71794 at OS2CUST) 4038 is telling you that your program has no starting address. This is a fatal condition for an .EXE. As you are building a .DLL, which may or may not have a starting address, I assume that the linker is thinking you are building an .EXE. Sounds like your .DEF file is wrong. Paul Devriendt ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 16:38:14 on 92/08/19 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST) Subject: NMAKE Help Location In short, where is the Help/ref that defines the NMAKE errors?? Dan Lundy Time Customer Service, Inc. Tampa, Fl ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 17:49:57 on 92/08/21 GMT (by PSC30 at OS2CUST) Subject: kernel debugging I think I put my post in the wrong forum.. Could you pop back to WorkFrame/2 and pick up my "Kernel debugging" post? ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 00:12:10 on 92/08/22 GMT (by PNWB016 at OS2CUST) Subject: DLGEDIT and Presentation Parameters I was using DLGEDIT to add some presentation parameters to some static controls in a dialog box and noticed that the updates were not reflected into the dialog being displayed. When I linked the RES file the changes did show up. My question is should be behavior be treated as a bug (in which case I will submit an ETR) or a feature (in which case I will submit a PASR). Wayne "I even understand what FUP is used for!" Holmes ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 17:58:47 on 92/08/22 GMT (by MARTZ at GDLVM2) Subject: Erroneous data defs in ".INF" for toolkit?? Ref: Append at 01:06:52 on 92/08/05 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) I assumed that the definitions in the ".INF" would match those in the include. I did in fact try to CUT/PASTE them directly into my code. Naturally it didn't work. I guess I don't understand your position. What I hear is that I should not expect the help info to be accurate? I should not expect it to match the definitions in the ".h" files, but should rather always go look there? Huh? (Sorry for the delay in replying to your reply. I'm in the midst of moving and it is very distracting. And then there is always work ... :) +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | John Martz "Better products through conferencing!" tie 852-5979 | | MARTZ at GDLVM2 Glendale Lab | | Prodigy: CCCR60A martz@gdlvm2.vnet.ibm.com Endicott, NY | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 23:56:18 on 92/08/28 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST) Subject: RC Options Obfuscated Upon encountering some odd errors from the resource compiler, I finally broke down and went hunting up documentation. The online info shows the -X option but does not define it.Review of the samples inc files suggestedthat I was not using the RC properly. I began the dreaded reading of the READ.ME file installed with the toolkit. The following text is copied directly from that file. It is the second paragraph under SAMPLE PROGRAMS: o The sample program makefiles incorrectly specify the -X and -P flags when compiling .RC source into .RES binary files. This specification appears in the IBMSAMP.INC file. These flags have no effect and should be used only when linking a .RES file to a .EXE executable file of a .DLL library. This should be done in each sample's makefile. The -P flag enables resource packing. The -X flag enables EXEPACKing of resources in programs linked with the LINK386 /EXEPACK option. Say Again?! While this does define the mysterious X, it leaves me confused. IF the flags have no effect then WHY use them? IF these options are "incorrectly specified" then why should this "be done in each sample's makefile"??? What is "linking a .RES file to a .EXE file of a .DLL library"??? Reread it might be "..Exe file OR a .DLL library" but then when do you link to anything else?Are these options only for EXE or DLL? Which? Finally, if P is resource packing, that is further defined to mean that the resource will not cross a 64k boundary. Okay, then what does it mean to enable EXEPACKing of resources when using the (recommended) EXEPACK link option? Is this further "packing" or enabling the de/compression routines to work at load time? Both? Exclusive Or??? IBM????? Dan Lundy Time Customer Service, Inc. Tampa, Fl ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 12:39:32 on 92/08/31 GMT (by V$IPAULD at BCRVMPC1) Subject: RC Options Obfuscated Ref: Append at 23:56:18 on 92/08/28 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST) LINK386 has an /EXEPACK option which packs individual code and data pages within the executable file. These pages are then unpacked by the loader when the pages are brought into memory. This saves disk space and speeds execution (the loader can unpack faster than the filesystem can read the file, so the less transferred from disk the better). The -X to RC switches the same pack algorithm on within the resource compiler so that resource pages are packed. Typically you would use the RC flags as follows : rc -r fred.rc fred.res ... create .res file rc -x fred.res fred.dll... "bind" resources into dll The /ALIGN switch to LINK386 is also relevant. Pages are aligned within the executable file. Aligning them right next to each other gives a small executable (eg /ALIGN:2). You might want to align on sector boundaries (eg /ALIGN:512) to speed page fault performance. (Aligning on sector boundaries may or may NOT help dependant on the app and on system type/loading). The RC does not have an /ALIGN option as it uses the alignment as setup by LINK386. I recommend LINK386 /EXEPACK /ALIGN:2 RC -X as a default, and only use different options if performance testing shows that they help. Paul Devriendt, OS/2 protect mode loader developer. ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 18:47:24 on 92/08/31 GMT (by XXPRMN01 at TORVMCOP) Subject: RC Options Obfuscated Ref: Append at 23:56:18 on 92/08/28 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST) -X works on both the executable and DLL. The loader doesn't care since the interated data is understood within the executable header LX definition. As for the -P, I am not quite up on that one and I can't find my LX definition which outlines the layout of the 32-bit executable. Hope this helps. Matt Smith, Prominare Inc. ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 22:00:05 on 92/08/31 GMT (by SAAS15F at OS2CUST) Subject: Debugging a child process Does the C Set/2 Debugger support child process debug ? If yes, what option sh ould be entered on the OS/2 command line ? ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 22:27:18 on 92/08/31 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) Subject: Debugging a child process Ref: Append at 22:00:05 on 92/08/31 GMT (by SAAS15F at OS2CUST) From: Tim Francis -- WorkFrame/2 development No, I'm pretty sure it doesn't. You can get around it by starting IPMD instead of your child process, and then passing your process's name as a parameter. (Any other questions about IPMD should go to C-SET2 CFORUM, where the IPMD developers are). -tim ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 17:42:59 on 92/09/01 GMT (by A5C202 at OS2CUST) Subject: IPF :table. TAG NOT RECOGNIZED Under OS/2 1.3 5016, I created an IPF document with the :table. tag as documented in a draft copy of the CRUISER toolkit manual. I get compiler errors saying the :table, :c and :etable tags (but not the :row) tags are invalid. Some insight please. Lincoln Mayer - Southwestern Bell Telephone Co. ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 18:20:53 on 92/09/01 GMT (by FORD at BCRVMPC1) Subject: IPF :table. TAG NOT RECOGNIZED Ref: Append at 17:42:59 on 92/09/01 GMT (by A5C202 at OS2CUST) Table support is a function which is new to 2.0 - you should not have been able to use it in 1.3. Are you sure you are using a 2.0 version of the compiler - especially make sure your IPFC environment variable is pointing to the 2.0 IPFC directory. Ann Ford ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 16:08:53 on 92/09/04 GMT (by DSC5050 at OS2CUST) Subject: Toolkit Install Trap 000E I received my Workset/2 a couple of days ago. The WorkFrame installed okay, but when I tried to install all features of the toolkit, the machine locked up. I had selected Set Drives, and specified an HPFS drive. The install opened a dialog box and started copying files. After a couple of files, it just stopped. The mouse would move, but I could not select any other window. I gave the 3-finger salute, and received a TRAP 000E. After getting the same result 3 times, I tried installing just the sample programs, and that worked just fine. I thought maybe the disk was corrupted, but the install seemed to proceed okay on my PS/2 at work. Hardware: Gateway 2000 386/33 (Micronics MB - Phoenix BIOS) 8M RAM Seagate 150M ESDI Micropolis 340M ESDI UltraStor 12F ESDI controller ATI VGA Wonder I've been running OS/2 2.0 since GA with never a single compatibility problem. Has anyone seen anything like this? Any ideas? Thanks, Gene Mangum Univ. of Michigan Hospitals ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 12:04:04 on 92/09/05 GMT (by DSC5050 at OS2CUST) Subject: Toolkit Install Trap 000E Follow-up I was able to install the toolkit by doing each part separately... ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 14:45:10 on 92/09/05 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST) Subject: Kernel Debug Load The installation of the OS/2 Debug Kernels was straightforward. However, after resetting the kernel back to "Retail", there seems to be no mechanism to set it back to "Debug". I note that there is a log present - but the dbinst.cmd and the dbuginst.exe both insist on a reload from diskette. W.A.D.??? What did I miss.The .SYM and debug libs are still in \os2\debug\dll - but simply resetting my config.sys to find these first doesn't seem to work. Second, I have a working assumption that the OS/2 debug kernel MUST be loaded to use the PM debug kernel. Is this correct? Dan Lundy Time Customer Service, Inc. Tampa, Fl ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 15:33:42 on 92/09/05 GMT (by SDETWEIL at DETVMIC4) Subject: Kernel Debug Load Ref: Append at 14:45:10 on 92/09/05 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST) Correct, DBGINST doesn't remember that it was already installed once. You CAN do this with a simple batch file however 'DEBUGAGN.CMD' @echo off rem unhide if hidden attrib -h -s -r OS2KNRL rem rename files, please check names rename OS2KRNL OS2KRNL.RTL rename OS2KRNL.DBG OS2KRNL Yes, correct for PM kernel debug, the engine that does all the ASYNC I/O is in the kernal.. Sam ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 23:05:27 on 92/09/07 GMT (by IL37690 at OS2CUST) Subject: Install Problems I just finished ATTEMPTING to install the C Developers Workset/2 Package. This involved the 3 components (Workframe, Toolkit, and Cset/2). The install process completed without any apparent problems except the Workframe and Cset/2 Folders were completely empty. Not even an Icon to startup either product. I installed the Kernel and PM Debug and updated my Config.sys to point to the PMDD.SYS in the debug dll directory and added the /C2 switch. Upon rebooting I got several lines of garbage on my debugging terminal followed by several rblessages I could read and then the system locked up tight with a totally blank black screen. I rebooted with the debug terminal turned off and I at least got the workplace shell to display but I attempted to open the toolkit folder and again the system locked up. I have subsequently removed the Workset/2 package from the system until I get some Idea of what is going on here. I have an upgraded os2krnl that seems to be backleveled by the debugging kernel. I also noticed that several shadows of folde 'destroyed' by the above in stall process. I have a feeling this package may not be ready for prime time. Someone prove me wrong. Please! James Schmidt ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 23:18:21 on 92/09/07 GMT (by TRAUTMAN at PKEDVM8) Subject: Install Problems Ref: Append at 23:05:27 on 92/09/07 GMT (by IL37690 at OS2CUST) We are using the GA level OS/2 code, C/Set 2 compiler, workframe and toolkit with no problems and have installed on multiple machines. (note: we had NO patches on the systems at the time the installs were done). Re: the empty folder, did you look for scroll bar? once in a while when I use something that creates a folder I need to do an arrange to get everything visible when the folder opens. No experience to speak of with the kernal debugger. Bill Trautman Internet: BTrautman@vnet.ibm.com ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 14:20:33 on 92/09/08 GMT (by PCCHAN at TOROLAB6) Subject: Install Problems Ref: Append at 23:05:27 on 92/09/07 GMT (by IL37690 at OS2CUST) Hi James, I don't know if the kernal patch caused the problem. There are reports that the WorkPlace shell creates empty icons sometimes. I suggest that you try to reinstall the package again. This time, install it right after you have rebooted your system. If you still having problems, give me a call at 1-416-448-2082. Richard Chan ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 19:26:13 on 92/09/08 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST) Subject: Kernel Debug Load Ref: Append at 15:33:42 on 92/09/05 GMT (by SDETWEIL at DETVMIC4) Thanks Sam! Once again IANC (I am Not Crazy!). I will give your suggestion a try. BTW, do you know if any new DEBUG SYM files have been distributed? My SOM is patched, my kernel is patched....etc.Has the debug kernel been updated? Dan Lundy Time Customer Service, Inc. Tampa, Fl ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 19:32:38 on 92/09/08 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST) Subject: Install Problems Ref: Append at 23:05:27 on 92/09/07 GMT (by IL37690 at OS2CUST) Hi James, You might want to follow along on a parallel thread in this forum where I am hunting down an updated debug kernel. At the time I installed the tools (all of them), I was not using a patched kernel. I only patched my kernel over the holiday and have not brought up the debug kernel since. I will try it this evening and let you know if he is working as designed. My tools, etc are working fine. I consider the tools professional quality! (Despite my vocal griefs!) They are just not EVERYTHING I could want yet. Dan Lundy Time Customer Service, Inc. Tampa, Fl ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 00:55:20 on 92/09/09 GMT (by SDETWEIL at DETVMIC4) Subject: Kernel Debug Load Ref: Append at 19:26:13 on 92/09/08 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST) I have not seen any new SYM files for for the updated files. Sam ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 14:40:46 on 92/09/14 GMT (by XXSEAR15 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Adding Toolkit desktop entries across a LAN Ref: Append at 00:51:06 on 92/07/24 GMT (by IL22868 at OS2CUST) Ken, How about uploading it to compuserve or CRS if you are local to Toronto. I know we could sure use it. Thanks ... Glenn Office Technology (Sears Canada Inc.) ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 19:41:15 on 92/09/15 GMT (by IL41468 at OS2CUST) Subject: Dialog Manager dropped? I was just scanning this formum for appends dealing with the dialog manager and found one date 92/05/28 from Bob Plyler (RRPLYLER @ CLTVM3) stating that version 2 of the Developer's Toolkit had dropped support for the dialog manager What is the story on this I got the new workbench a couple of weeks ago and the Toolkit has the dialog manager in it. Is it supported of not. I can not imagine trying to develop certain applications without it. John M. Schaeffer (AIMS - Sandy, Utah) ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 12:14:21 on 92/09/16 GMT (by SALLYT at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Dialog Manager dropped? Ref: Append at 19:41:15 on 92/09/15 GMT (by IL41468 at OS2CUST) The OS/2 2.0 Toolkit does not contain Dialog Manager or any files associated with Dialog Manager. Dialog Manager is in the 1.3 toolkit. Which toolkit are you referring to that contains Dialog Manager ?? Sally Tekulsky Toolkit Team Lead OS/2 System Test II ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 14:09:27 on 92/09/16 GMT (by IL41468 at OS2CUST) Subject: Dialog Manager dropped? Ref: Append at 12:14:21 on 92/09/16 GMT (by SALLYT at BCRVMPC1) Unlike a number of other companies on this BBS, AIMS did not use OS/2 until 2.0 (the reason are many). I looked over my documentation (online and off) and what we are using is called the "Dialog Editor". From your comment I would guess that the Dialog Editor and Dialog Manager are too different animals. To those of us without 5 years of OS/2, it is normal error. One general comment, a fair number of responses of this board from IBM'ers (1/3 to 1/2) assume the user has been with OS/2 since 1.0. However if you look at the sales figures the vast majority of OS/2 user have been converted with 2.0. Please remember this in your response. Please the above is not direct at the responder to my message dirrectly, but is a general comment. John M. Schaeffer (AIMS - Sandy, Utah) ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 02:02:41 on 92/09/18 GMT (by AMBC006 at MARTLINK) Subject: Dialog Manager dropped? Ref: Append at 12:14:21 on 92/09/16 GMT (by SALLYT at BCRVMPC1) Sally, Say it aint so !!! Are you serious that the Dialog Manager is not going to be on the ToolKit. Does this mean I have to save all that code from the 1.3 Toolkit. Why would you want to drop such a wonderful tool ?? (I won't mention that the only time I ever got it to work out of a rexx exec is by using some of the APPC sample code). Michael Suszko, Jr (A. M. Best Co., Oldwick NJ) ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 05:19:21 on 92/09/18 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Dialog Manager dropped? Ref: Append at 02:02:41 on 92/09/18 GMT (by AMBC006 at MARTLINK) Michael, Try Prominare or Gpf. They are generating a decent C code. (at least for the GUI-User interface. you still have to code the logic.) Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 NHO-32 801-7th Ave Calgary, Alberta, CANADA T2P 2N6 ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 18:03:38 on 92/09/18 GMT (by NAAO3IY at OS2CUST) Subject: Dialog Manager dropped? Ref: Append at 02:02:41 on 92/09/18 GMT (by AMBC006 at MARTLINK) I'm afraid IBM has been saying for a couple of years that Dialog Manager was a dead end. For application programming, they have been recommending third-party products like Enfin or Easel. For REXX, there is no good solution yet, although I gather OO-REXX, when it arrives, will cover this territory. If you keep the 1.3 toolkit around (which is really kinda important anyway, for stuff like FAPI), you can continue to use it, but I wouldn't invest any more effort into it. John Kennedy -- Hoechst Celanese, Bridgewater, NJ ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 22:20:56 on 92/09/18 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Toolkit CSD Is there any CSD or bug fix for the SOM compiler? The GA does not support HPFS long names , so I can't use WPS drag-drop to compile . I hope it is the right forum. (I opened a problem in ASSIST for this ) Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 NHO-32 801-7th Ave Calgary, Alberta, CANADA T2P 2N6 ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 18:12:39 on 92/09/22 GMT (by MYWEN at CARVM3) Subject: 64K limit for dialog res? I was trying to use DLGEDIT to bring up a dialog res that is quite large and got the following message from DLGEDIT: The resource file contains a non-dialog resource larger than 64K. Compile your dialogs into another .RES file and edit them separately. Do I have to do what the error message says and break the .res into some smaller files? Any advice will be greatly appreciated. mei-yee ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 21:51:02 on 92/09/23 GMT (by WILLEYD at CARVM3) Subject: Sharing a Copy of Toolkit from the LAN I co-worker installed the toolkit onto his machine on a disk that happened to be located on our department LAN. Are there any directions written anywhere or could someone tell me the steps to access this LAN based copy of the toolkit as if I had actually installed it myself? When I run the INSTALL program located on disk one of the toolkit disk set, it appears that all of the toolkit software will again be loaded. I don't want to load the software again, I just want the toolkit to (install) with the icons, etc. but point to this previously installed version on the toolkit located on the LAN. Thanks in advance, Dan t/l 883-7581 INFO/Management Development ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 00:31:35 on 92/09/24 GMT (by XXWESB07 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Problem with expressions in RC In my .rc files I like to use a #define to set my width and height values of dialog boxes and then use these in the template when defining my controls. With the OS/2 1.3 RC, I was able to use the expression: DIALOG_CX-30 However, with OS/2 2.0 RC, it chokes and complains that this is an invalid token. Why doesn't the 2.0 RC recognize this as an expression like the 1.3 RC did? I am forced to insert spaces around the minus (-) operator to get it to compile. This is quite annoying having to spend time inserting spaces into .rc files being brought over from 1.3. Is this a bug or a feature? Craig Knelsen, Information Systems Management Corp. (ISM) One Research Drive, Regina, SK Canada S4S 7H1 (306) 781-5191 Fax: (306) 781-5320 ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 14:30:16 on 92/09/28 GMT (by 64985842 at TOROHON1) Subject: Problem with expressions in RC Ref: Append at 00:31:35 on 92/09/24 GMT (by XXWESB07 at TORVMCOP) I discovered this while we were still in beta. I believe it was acknowledged as a bug, and the workaround was to insert spaces as you have done. I reported it through an unofficial medium (internal FORUM), so I guess it fell through the cracks and has still not been fixed. Blair Thompson BLAIR at CANVM2 IBM Canada Ltd. ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 05:23:34 on 92/09/29 GMT (by IL78711 at OS2CUST) Subject: CDROM for Developers - Availability I saw a press release mentioning a CDROM for Developers. IBM mentioned that they would be giving them away at some Computer Shows. There was no other information on how to get a copy. Is is available and how do you go about getting a copy. Marvin Lichtenthal ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 13:22:06 on 92/09/29 GMT (by MOONEY at TOROLAB6) Subject: CDROM for Developers - Availability Ref: Append at 05:23:34 on 92/09/29 GMT (by IL78711 at OS2CUST) Dust off your favourite dialing finger and call (407) 982-6408 and ask to join the Developer's Assitance Program. You'll get lots of neat stuff from them, including the CD-ROM. dave ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 21:22:39 on 92/09/29 GMT (by XXPRMN01 at TORVMCOP) ..... OS2TLKIT CFORUM modified at 21:28:26 on 92/09/29 GMT (by XXPRMN01 at TORVMCOP) Deleted by Matt Smith, Prominare Inc. ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 21:25:56 on 92/09/29 GMT (by XXPRMN01 at TORVMCOP) Subject: CDROM for Developers - Availability Ref: Append at 13:22:06 on 92/09/29 GMT (by MOONEY at TOROLAB6) Yea, right Dave! Matt Smith, Prominare Inc. ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 05:45:40 on 92/10/01 GMT (by IL78711 at OS2CUST) Subject: CDROM for Developers - Availability Ref: Append at 13:22:06 on 92/09/29 GMT (by MOONEY at TOROLAB6) I am already a member of the Developer Assistance Program. Hopefully I will be receiving somthing soon. If not I will send the DAP a note. It sure was nice of IBM to put up the OS/2 Compendium pubs on the OS/2 BBS. ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 07:04:54 on 92/10/01 GMT (by LINSUSAN at HKGVM8) Subject: Missing Toolkit folders Ref : None For some reason, my ini file was corrupted and I need to re-assign all my desktop objects. Are there any CMD or REXX procedures I can use to setup my Toolkit 2.0 icons? I have 5 machines I need to do this on and I don't feel like re-installing the whole toolkit either. Susan S. Lin ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 13:32:20 on 92/10/02 GMT (by RJMOORE at NHBVM4) ..... OS2TLKIT CFORUM modified at 04:28:11 on 92/10/03 GMT (by HOPKINS at AUSVM8) Subject: internal append removed -Ken ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 02:49:49 on 92/10/06 GMT (by RONEILL at TUCVM2) Subject: Deleting WP Class list I recently install the OS/2 Toolkit and in the middle of the installation it had a failure. I try it again and this time it completed. Well, kind of, I am stuck with two (2) WP Class List icon and cannot delete any of them. So far I have try to delete them by: 1) Moving them to a TMP directory and deleting the directory 2) Moving them into a folder and deleting the folder 3) Deleting everything and re-installing the Toolkit (now I have 3) Any help in deleting (not multiplying) this files is appreciated... Thanks in advance, Ralph O'Neill RONEILL at TUCVM2 ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 04:32:26 on 92/10/06 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Deleting WP Class list Ref: Append at 02:49:49 on 92/10/06 GMT (by RONEILL at TUCVM2) Go to REXX or WPS forum. Gregory can identify and delete your extra objects. Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 Fax:(403)-290-5900 NHO-32 801-7th Ave Calgary, Alberta, CANADA T2P 2N6 ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 10:12:21 on 92/10/06 GMT (by RJMOORE at NHBVM4) Subject: internal append removed Ref: Append at 13:32:20 on 92/10/02 GMT (by RJMOORE at NHBVM4) Why have you removed my append - can't you take valid criticism? Richard Moore - (A customer of IBM who spent his own money on this product and was not entirely satisfied) ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 16:56:12 on 92/10/07 GMT (by SAMI7JR at OS2CUST) Subject: OS2/2.0 Toolkit Can anyone tell me what the price of the OS/2 2.0 Tools For Applications Develo pment..PRODNO 10G3-355? Looking throught the description, couldn't find the pr ice. Steve.. SteveV ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 20:17:37 on 92/10/07 GMT (by FRMLSPA at OS2CUST) Subject: OS2/2.0 Toolkit Ref: Append at 16:56:12 on 92/10/07 GMT (by SAMI7JR at OS2CUST) It retails for $119. You ought to look into the WorkSet/2, though. It includes the Toolkit 2.0, WorkFrame/2, and C Set/2 32-bit PM compiler and debugger (debugger can debug 16-bit apps with codeview symbolics as well). It regularly retails for $895 and IBM has a promo on it till April for about $350 retail. Scott Atwell - Farmland Industries ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 22:32:53 on 92/10/07 GMT (by FRANCIS at TOROLAB6) Subject: WorkSet/2 promotional price Ref: Append at 20:17:37 on 92/10/07 GMT (by FRMLSPA at OS2CUST) From: Tim Francis -- WorkFrame/2 development In the US....$375 ....all three 1-800 channels (and on 1-800-IBM-CALL commencing 10/13/92 In Canada....$445 Cdn ....1-800-465-7999 IBM Direct -tim ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 16:26:54 on 92/10/09 GMT (by RUSHING at CLTVM1) Subject: Kernel Debugger with a "specific ver. of DOS" Is it possible to make the kernel debugger work with a specific version of DOS booted from Drive A: ? We have seen the debugger working until a DOS session is booted from A: . The debugger still will not work even after the DOS session has been shut down. Mike Rushing ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 18:15:17 on 92/10/12 GMT (by IL02075 at OS2CUST) Subject: Link386 W/ 16Bit API I am creating a DLL to access a set of 16 bit API's (Database Manager mostly but some others). I allways receive the Link386 Message L4008about 25 times for the first function declared APIENTRY16. Subsequent functionsdeclared as APIENTRY16 do not generate these messages. The MAP file indicates that the function that generated this message is placed in its own segment called SEG16T_funcname type CODE 16 Bit. All other functions appear to be placed in SEG16T_funcname also. The CODE16 Segment contains only EDC3216.ASM. Another problem is that as the DLL gets large the APIENTRY16 functions towards the and cause an abend. (I imagine this is because the SEG16T_funcname segment is growing over the segment boundary). I have tried explicitly placingfunctions in separate segments but the documentation is sketchy. I tried #pragma alloc_text but this only creates 32bit Segments. I tried creating SEGMENT(S) in my module definition file but I can't find documentation how how to explicitly create a 16bit CODE segment (CLASS Code 16BIT). Thanks Mike Rowan, Mainline Information Systems Tallahassee Fl ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 16:37:51 on 92/10/20 GMT (by IL02075 at OS2CUST) Subject: LINK386 Manual/Docs Is there a more comprehensive manual or documentation on LINK386? The on line INF file doesn't seem to have all the answers I am looking for. (see previous append) Mike Rowan, Mainline Information Systems Tallahassee Fl ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 03:52:01 on 92/10/22 GMT (by IL02075 at OS2CUST) Subject: Link386 W/ 16Bit API Ref: Append at 18:15:17 on 92/10/12 GMT (by IL02075 at OS2CUST) I know this forum is dead and I am appending to my own item (dated a week and a half ago) so let me talk out loud for a bit. I am becoming certain this is a tools error, most likely but not certainly the linker. How else could the whole thing have worked when running at 1.3EE level (under 2.0 w/1.0ES and compiled/linked with MSC 6.0). My hunch is that the problem lies in the way LINK386 handles 16 bit CODE and DATA segments (meaning minimally at best). My question now is: How did the people at TOROLAB write ES1.0 with this linker... if my hunch is correct they couldn't have. So what linker did they use? Where can I get it. What is it about the tools forum that it gets no IBM support like the Database Manager and C/Set forums do? Mike Rowan, Mainline Information Systems Tallahassee Fl ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 15:52:49 on 92/10/22 GMT (by HANKH at AUSVM8) Subject: Link386 W/ 16Bit API Ref: Append at 03:52:01 on 92/10/22 GMT (by IL02075 at OS2CUST) Mike, If you feel that this is a "DEFECT" please go to the ASKIBM section of this BBS and Report this problem as a SOFTWARE defect. That's the only way to get it fixed! Hank Henderson OS/2BBS Administrator, Austin, Texas (LNK1SM7 @ IBMLINK) ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 16:18:12 on 92/10/22 GMT (by WNDY003 at OS2CUST) Subject: Resource Compiler oddities I am attempting to create a dialog with many!! pushbutton controls. It seems that at approximately 85 pushbuttons, RC starts having problems. RC , after seeming to successfully read the .RC file, says "I/O error writing .RES file" or some such. At approximately 90 pushbuttons, RC starts generating errors in reading the file. Are there limits to RC that I don't know about?? I have tried the -p option. Thank you. Donnie Hale ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 16:24:17 on 92/10/22 GMT (by IL41468 at HONE84) Subject: Link386 W/ 16Bit API Ref: Append at 03:52:01 on 92/10/22 GMT (by IL02075 at OS2CUST) Mike: The answers to you final questions are over in OS2DBM. J.M.Schaeffer ('John' AIMS, Sandy Utah) ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 19:00:04 on 92/10/22 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8) Subject: Resource Compiler oddities Ref: Append at 16:18:12 on 92/10/22 GMT (by WNDY003 at OS2CUST) Donnie, I don't mean to insult your intelligence, but sometimes the obvious gets overlooked. Is it possible that you may be running out of disk space or directory space (if FAT)? Keep in mind that during a MAKE and compile/link/RC compile a lot of temporary files get created to wherever the TEMP variable is pointed. I apologize for stating the obvious if you have already considered this. Stephen Poole OS/2 Service and Support - IBM Austin, TX ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 15:28:54 on 92/10/23 GMT (by SC034985 at AUSVM1) Subject: Toolkit 2.0 C Header Problem Ref: Append at 19:00:04 on 92/10/22 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8) The macro MAKEFLATP in the header file BASEMAC.H refers to the macro SEGMENTOF, but SEGMENTOF is undefined. SEGMENTOF16 and SEGMENTOF32 are defined, but not SEGMENTOF. I wrote my own SEGMENTOF, but I thought I'd report this. Gary ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 15:31:40 on 92/10/23 GMT (by SC034985 at AUSVM1) Subject: What does the LINK386 /ALIGN Option Do for Me? Ref: Append at 19:00:04 on 92/10/22 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8) What does the LINK386 /ALIGN option do for me and how do I know when to use it and how to use it? Gary ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 18:11:59 on 92/10/23 GMT (by AMELINE at TOROLAB6) Subject: What does the LINK386 /ALIGN Option Do for Me? Ref: Append at 15:31:40 on 92/10/23 GMT (by SC034985 at AUSVM1) The ALIGN option specifies the aligment of segments *in the EXE file only* The segments are aligned in memory according to the align field in the SEGDEF for that segment. Under no circumstances will the ALIGN option affect a single byte of memory once the program is loaded. I recommend using /ALIGN:4 at all times. Regards, Ian Ameline C-Set/2 Development. ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 20:21:20 on 92/10/23 GMT (by WNDY003 at OS2CUST) Subject: Resource Compiler oddities Ref: Append at 19:00:04 on 92/10/22 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8) Thanks for the response. I don't think either of those are problems, as I have about 80 MB of free disk space and the TEMP/TMP environment variables point at a subdirectory. Also, this isn't during a MAKE, I am simply running RC.EXE at the command line. Thanks again. Donnie Hale ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 15:57:50 on 92/10/27 GMT (by WHITCOMT at MANVM1) Subject: /D option on CSET2 compiler Does anyone know how to specify multiple macro definitions using the /D compile option? Thanks tom ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 16:09:07 on 92/10/27 GMT (by SETH at BCRVM7) Subject: /D option on CSET2 compiler Ref: Append at 15:57:50 on 92/10/27 GMT (by WHITCOMT at MANVM1) By specifying multiple /D parameters: /Dmacro1 /Dmacro2 /Dmacro3 ... Seth Eilbott 8-982-3088 Internet: seth@bcrvm7.vnet.ibm.com ----- OS2TLKIT CFORUM appended at 16:19:09 on 92/10/27 GMT (by WHITCOMT at MANVM1) Subject: /D option on CSET2 compiler Ref: Append at 16:09:07 on 92/10/27 GMT (by SETH at BCRVM7) Thanks.