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The OS2BBS CFORUM is where anyone may raise concerns regarding rules violations found in this and other CFORUMS. The IBM Owner of this forum is: Name: Kenneth M. Hopkins, OS/2 Support Services Mailing Address: IBM Manufacturing and Development 11400 Burnet Road Internal Zip 2900-042/1D003 Austin, Texas 78758 IBM Node/Userid: AUSVM8/HOPKINS ..... 4654 lines pruned at 15:35:10 on 92/08/06 GMT (by FOLGER at YKTVMV) ..... ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 11:11:35 on 92/06/19 GMT (by ADALE at HVTVM) Subject: HPFS on 128Mb Optical Drive Does anyone know of a way to format a 128Mb MO cartridge as an HPFS drive. Tony Dale Line Support Systems ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 12:47:11 on 92/06/19 GMT (by HARGRAVE at BCRVMPC1) Subject: HPFS on 128Mb Optical Drive Ref: Append at 11:11:35 on 92/06/19 GMT (by ADALE at HVTVM) HPFS does not support removable media. Sorry. BJ Hargrave ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:03:46 on 92/06/19 GMT (by Z77JAC at BETASVM2) Subject: What?, No More CSDs! Ref: Append at 23:34:37 on 92/06/18 GMT (by SHOULDIC at TUCVM8) I'll try to add a bit of information relative to my understanding of the 'CSD' issues. First, whatever the name, I am sure it is Boca's aim to get fixes out as fast as possible, given adequate testing. The name of the fix or fixes is probably irrelevant to their scheduling. My understanding, in fact, is that any name changes are probably in response to various complaints about 'arcane IBM acronyms'. Onward - There are a few fixes available now on IBM internal disks which are freely distributable to licensed customers. (The implications of this are not totally worked out, so don't immediately ask where you can download them. The only official source at the moment seems to be your account rep.) Anyway, the idea is to make the fixes which will be in the 'CSD', whenever it appears, available ahead of the 'CSD' itself. Jerry Case, TEAMOS2, Bethesda, MD (Not an official IBM spokesman) ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:52:23 on 92/06/19 GMT (by OCANUC at BETASVM2) Subject: What?, No More CSDs! Ref: Append at 15:03:46 on 92/06/19 GMT (by Z77JAC at BETASVM2) Jerry, I believe some of these fixes are available from the Atlanta BBS and from Compuserv, and so are publically available. Brandon Booth Advanced Programming - ICSRS ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:36:08 on 92/06/20 GMT (by AOI1075 at OS2CUST) Subject: Libpath Set in Concrete Ref: Append at 18:19:46 on 92/06/18 GMT (by TBHIC at OS2CUST) Did somebody say 'LIBPATH'? That really gets me going. Listen to this: 1) Requiring a re-boot to change LIBPATH seems stupid. I have never heard of a reason why things have to work this way. Any replies? 2) My LIBPATH keeps growing. I keep bumping up the Brief editor's maximum line length just to be able to edit CONFIG.SYS. I have changed directory names to shorten LIBPATH and PATH. I have to use the OS/2 editor to work on CONFIG.SYS because of the length of LIBPATH and PATH. 3) I have moved DLLs for some products into a separate (common) directory in order to eliminate text from LIBPATH. **IBM LISTEN TO THIS*** Why not make a single directory, which LIBPATH points to after OS/2 install. After a fresh install, the directory would be empty. Products would install their DLLs into this one directory. This would eliminate the need for re-boots, and make LIBPATH short. I know you will say this requires co-ordination on the part of developers in naming their DLL files, but they get paid big bucks for their products, and should be able to handle this. New products could use this feature. 4) Developers: Why have so many DLL files? I know of one product we use that has SEVERAL DOZEN DLL files. This seems crazy. One application should have one or two DLL files. I know you will say "But it is more convenient for us to arrange DLLs in files by function, etc. etc.". My reply is: "It is more convenient for me to have as few files in an application as possible.". 5) Using '.;' in LIBPATH helps, but many applications want you to be in a working directory, while the DLLs are out of sight in another directory. 6) I would like to see the current setup with LIBPATH changed. It out to work more like PATH. You could have a fixed part (for OS/2 code), and a changeable part (for us). J.Farmer IBMMAIL(USAOIXGW) ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 03:43:02 on 92/06/21 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Libpath Set in Concrete Ref: Append at 15:36:08 on 92/06/20 GMT (by AOI1075 at OS2CUST) I used to put the .;.¢DLL; in my LIBPATH and DPATH , help files to .¢HELP it works to me. I can clean up the directories after a messy installation (123G, Autocad,...)and keep my disk organized. Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:49:49 on 92/06/21 GMT (by WZ00511 at OS2CUST) Subject: Libpath Set in Concrete Ref: Append at 03:43:02 on 92/06/21 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Geza, seen those mentioned before. What are they supposed to do? Also, how did you get the cent sign to show up here. I typed ALT+155 and it gave me a column of double lines down the right side of my screen, put "Top of File" at the top of the page, and a "0++9" on my status line. (???) Brad Bueche .....NationsBank Norfolk, VA ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 17:19:41 on 92/06/21 GMT (by WZ00511 at OS2CUST) ..... OS2QANDA CFORUM modified at 17:25:42 on 92/06/21 GMT (by WZ00511 at OS2CUST) Subject: Allocation error on boot-up This APPEND was deleted at 13:25:42 on 06/21/92 EST. ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 00:39:42 on 92/06/22 GMT (by V$IPAULD at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Libpath Set in Concrete Ref: Append at 15:36:08 on 92/06/20 GMT (by AOI1075 at OS2CUST) It would be technically possible to make the LIBPATH dynamically changeable. It would even be possible to make the LIBPATH a per-process setting instead of a system global. It would even even be possible to have a system global LIBPATH and a per-process USERLIBPATH that is searched first. I have considered all of these, and have been unable to convince myself that this is really essential, and have concluded that my time is better spent on performance and reliability enhancements. But, I am listening. (By the way, I am the OS/2 kernel developer responsible for (among other things) the protect mode application loader). My objections to the above possibilities are that : - User complexity. Sure, it is a pain to reboot to change the LIBPATH, but most people should not need to change it often. So, this system offers simplicity in that you always know where the system is searching for DLLs. This is not true with a dynamic LIBPATH, and users can not be expected to know what DLLs an application uses. So, if an app A.EXE imports DLLs B, C, D; B imports E, F ang G; E imports D, H and I etc ... and the LIBPATH is changed dynamically so that H is now not found, it is not too easy to work out. Contrast with the case of the PATH and the .EXE file - most users can identify where an EXE file is and what it does, very few know what DLLs are used by that EXE. - Multiple DLLs with the same name. This tends to be handled fairly well with the use of the "." in the LIBPATH, but it is really easy to shoot yourself in the foot with a more complex environment offered by a dynamic LIBPATH. - Performance. DLLs are known internally by just their name and not by the directory name. This would have to be extended to the fully qualified name for the dynamic LIBPATH, and the disk searched for every load. This will kill application loading performance. If you think that the performance is not an issue, you might like to experiment with having a few LAN drives first in the LIBPATH and see what that does to app startup. I feel that the current implementation offers us performance and avoids much complexity, but still gives some flexibility by using the "." in the LIBPATH if required. Is added complexity and a performance hit not a very high price to pay for some additional flexibiltiy over that given by "." ? My suspicion is that the cure is worse than the disease, but if the consensus of opinion is that I am wrong, then it would be possible to get the design enhanced. Paul Devriendt ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 05:15:25 on 92/06/22 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Libpath Set in Concrete Ref: Append at 16:49:49 on 92/06/21 GMT (by WZ00511 at OS2CUST) I don't knew what cent sign you talking about. I'm using the Softterm 3101-2x emulation and I can see ¢ (backshlash) on my screen. Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 12:22:07 on 92/06/22 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Subject: What?, No More CSDs! Ref: Append at 15:03:46 on 92/06/19 GMT (by Z77JAC at BETASVM2) Fixes are available directly from IBM on CIS, IBMLINK, and the Atlanta BBS. There is a file called 20FIX that is a list of the available fixes and it includes the IBM Internal name and where it can be gotten by Internal IBM'ers and the name that is used for External distribution. In addition, this is an OFFICIAL IBM fix statement... ************* OS/2 SERVICE AND SUPPORT IBM Service and Support is committed to solving problems customers discover using OS/2. We appreciate and welcome all information, feedback, and suggestions you report regarding our product. Your input is very valuable to us and has helped us improve our product and our service support. Our service channels are receiving positive feedback on OS/2 2.0 from our customers. There are a few problems causing some customers difficulties. For problems we consider serious and affect many of our customers, we are making selective fixes available. Our selective fix strategy allows a customer to apply only the fix they need. This will address individual customer needs better and be more timely. Selective fixes are available electronically on COMPUSERVE, IBMLINK, and other bulletin boards. The fix will include a problem description, a readme for installation considerations, an installation command file, and the fix. The selective fixes currently available solve the following problems: (ATTACHMENT 1) IBM will be working closely with our customers to keep them informed of the selective fixes which are available and the ones we are working on. The fixes we are targeting to make available soon are: (ATTACHMENT 2) Over time, Service Packs will be available which will include all selective fixes and improvements we make across the product. We will make public a list of APARs which will be included in the next Service Pack. This list will be updated periodically prior to releasing the Service Pack. The delivery dates of our Service Packs are driven by customer feedback. Our first Service Pack will be available in the Fall. It will be available electronically and by diskette for a nominal charge (materials and handling). Most of our service calls are installation, set-up and usage types of questions. There are about 50 problems generating the majority of the remaining calls. We are pleased that the total number of problems our development team is working on matches our quality improvement projections. IBM is interested in all problems our customers experience using OS/2 2.0. All will get special consideration for either immediate resolution or future improvements to the product. ATTACHMENT 1: * Can't install on MFM/RLL (Family 1) disk drives * Swapper file doesn't shrink until a system re-boot * Western Digital chip set in SVGA mode can hang during system install * TSENG chip set in SVGA mode experiences display corruption going to and from a fullscreen VDM * Intermittent trap after exiting WIN-OS/2 full-screen on 4MB systems ATTACHMENT 2: * Old DOS applications can cause trap in the file system * In certain instances the customer may experience a loss of the desktop upon booting. * Cannot access 360K 5 1/4" diskette drive * In certain instances some icons will either turn black or disappear ****************** Irv Spalten BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 13:18:33 on 92/06/22 GMT (by MCMILLAN at RALVM18) Subject: Libpath Set in Concrete Ref: Append at 15:36:08 on 92/06/20 GMT (by AOI1075 at OS2CUST) I can answer your question #4: Applications often use many DLLs to improve overall system performance. By grouping functional units of code into a DLL the application can take significantly less system memory when loaded. The DLLs only get loaded if needed -- developers often group less-used parts of the application into DLLs (like install routines, print routines, etc). These parts of the application are not loaded into memory unless needed, reducing the application's need for system memory. Many OS/2 developers could do well to learn more about how DLLs work and how they can reduce system requirements of their applications. Mark McMillan ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 13:28:22 on 92/06/22 GMT (by SSIA013 at OS2CUST) Subject: What?, No More CSDs! Ref: Append at 12:22:07 on 92/06/22 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Paul, Your reasoning of having a FIXED LIBPATH seems very well suited for the "average" user; but there are alot of us out here that arn't "average". Please give me your thoughts on the following sceenio: OS/2 network (workstations and LAN server) -- production and developement environment. Because of "acquired" products, this company requires the use of many compilers and other products (123 or whatever). MOST of these compilers and products are installed on the server machine, and set up via the public applications. 1==> After installing a compiler (we'll say a 'C' compiler), how do I change the LIBPATH on all of the workstations for my developers (say a staff of 25 programmers). Do I need to change them all by hand? 2==> Again, install another compiler (CoBOL), again the question above comes into play, but now I've got 50 Cobol programmers to deal with. To complicate issues, some of those Cobol programmers are also 'C' pgmrs. How do I setup the LIBPATH so that the 'C' compiler isn't seen? - Yes I can setup my installation so that my "working" drives are different -- but that complicates my installation (rather than having everything standardized T: = tools, S: = Source, L: = Libs etc). - Also, if I do have different drives set up for each of the applications then when I run one, the other drives will be invalid (because I only use them off the LAN when I need them). - If I do set up seperate drives for each of my compilers, then after installing several compilers and environments, where do I run my other applications from (123 etc)? Currently, under DOS, the solution to this problem is to use the resource from the LAN and make changes to the environment when the application is being used. After use, the LAN resources are released, and the machine is returned to it's initial state. -- Everything runs as if it where installed all by itself, even though I do have five different compilers installed on the LAN -- not to mention countless other end user applications. Under OS/2, I can apply the "DOS" solution, changing the environment for everything EXCEPT the LIBPATH. -- Try installing five compilers on your LAN and see how long and UNMANGABLE your LIBPATH becomes!! I rest my case.... Paul Kurr ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 13:58:05 on 92/06/22 GMT (by V$IPAULD at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Libpath Set in Concrete Ref: Append at 13:18:33 on 92/06/22 GMT (by MCMILLAN at RALVM18) Using many DLLs to avoid loading unneeded function can be a false saving. Remember that any DLL that is imported will be loaded whether or not you call it - to avoid this the DosLoadModule/DosGetProcAddr approach must be used. Every DLL that is loaded carries a lot of system overhead. As code is demand loaded, a better performance approach will often be fewer larger DLLs with careful segment/object and page tuning. Paul Devriendt ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 14:34:15 on 92/06/22 GMT (by AADC12H at OS2CUST) Subject: DOS .INF File viewer program We still have both DOS and OS/2 users. We have some .INF files and would like to have DOS users to be able to access. Is there a file viewer for DOS? ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 14:49:48 on 92/06/22 GMT (by PNWB016 at HONE82) Subject: What?, No More CSDs! Ref: Append at 12:22:07 on 92/06/22 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Irv: THANK YOU... this is the kind of planning information we need. Thanks for making the fixes available on this BBS. Wayne "See, I really can be reasonable" Holmes U S WEST Communications ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 17:39:40 on 92/06/22 GMT (by V$IPAULD at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Installing Compilers Ref: Append at 13:28:22 on 92/06/22 GMT (by SSIA013 at OS2CUST) It is possible to set up the LIBPATH such that it points to every application directory and find the DLLs this way. This, however, as you observe makes the LIBPATH very long and cumbersome, and has an adverse impact on performance. One solution to this is indeed a dynamic LIBPATH. However, another solution is the way I configure my machine - I have a common DLL directory into which I place DLLs belonging to different apps. This gives me ease of installation as I just copy the DLLs into this directory and do not need to change the LIBPATH, and gives me the performance as this directory has maybe 30 files in it, all DLLs, avoiding the need to have the loader search 15 directories all of which have 60 files in them. I can see how a dynamic LIBPATH would assist your installation of a new app as it would eliminate a reboot, but you still need to supply each user with a .CMD file to change the LIBPATH. If you have a directory \DLLS on the server, new DLLS can just "appear" in this directory with no hit at all to existing users. So, a dynamic LIBPATH would be nice to have, but there do seem to be other means to achieve the same end, and which avoid the drawbacks that are inherit with a dynamic LIBPATH. Paul Devriendt ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 17:49:28 on 92/06/22 GMT (by TBHIC at OS2CUST) Subject: Libpath Set in Concrete Ref: Append at 13:58:05 on 92/06/22 GMT (by V$IPAULD at BCRVMPC1) This Libpath thread is an example of the kind of interaction that can make the OS/2bbs worth the money. Where user and devloper can exchange ideas and real world issues can be brought up. Like Paul Kurr, I work in a LAN environment that is overly complicated by LIBPATH issues. For example, we have a server requester app that uses Easel, Oracle, TCP/IP and our own homegrown .dlls. This app already has 70+ users at 8 sites. And we will have over 200 users eventually. The issues that arise as a result of a static LIBPATH include: 1. Initial install, manpower usage to touch each pc that either uses or potentially uses the application. 2. Upgrade issues. .DLLs on the server are locked when in use. Our users tend to stay very late and make it difficult to update .dlls in place. We use .cmd files to launch the programs and if libpath was dynamic, we would just point them at a different directory when they came up in the application and let those with the application go on their merry way until they closed down and re-started the app with the upgraded configuration (although occasionally changes may require everyone to log off.) Static LIBPATH requires that we set aside a place for upgraded .dlls ahead of time and have that on all libpaths. sets also, makes the use of the "." in the LIBPATH an incomplete solution. written with Application Manager rather than Easel or add another 3rd party tool with its own dlls, it is a lot easier to touch a half dozen servers than 200 workstations. A possible comprimise: The libpath in the config.sys can be static and dynamic (environment based) peices could be either appended in front of or in back of the static peice. Matt Hickman Chevron Matt@bhice.hou130.chevron.com ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 18:50:25 on 92/06/22 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) Subject: DOS .INF File viewer program Ref: Append at 14:34:15 on 92/06/22 GMT (by AADC12H at OS2CUST) There is currently (and to my severely limited knowledge no plans for) no .INF viewer for DOS I am, however, in no way connected with OS/2 or IPF development. Nathan Davis -- Team OS/2 - Houston ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 18:58:10 on 92/06/22 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) Subject: Installing Compilers Ref: Append at 17:39:40 on 92/06/22 GMT (by V$IPAULD at BCRVMPC1) The "proper" use of LIBPATH is to contain *only* DLLs which may be used by multiple products. DLLs do not have to be in the LIBPATH to be found if the application knows where to look, and most applications which use DLLs also use a product-specific tree structure. An application can load its private DLLs from its private DLL directory without bothering LIBPATH. Similarly, smaller applications (with fewer DLLs) can use environment variables to locate DLL-containing directories. It is just a matter of educating programmers. Nathan Davis -- Team OS/2 - Houston ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 19:41:56 on 92/06/22 GMT (by V$IPAULD at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Installing Compilers Ref: Append at 18:58:10 on 92/06/22 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) > The "proper" use of LIBPATH is to contain *only* DLLs which may be > used by multiple products. Interesting, and true in that the original intent of DLLs was to implement code sharing. However, this is no longer true - the use of DLLs has evolved FAR beyond the original concept. There are 3 ways to get a DLL loaded : 1. import it from an .EXE or another .DLL 2. do a DosLoadModule on the DLL name 3. do a DosLoadModule on a filename The purpose of the LIBPATH is to allow the loader to find DLLs through the file system when given only the DLL name - ie, for cases 1 and 2. Both of these give a class global load of the DLL. Case 3 is the case you are referring to, and this gives a class specific load of the DLL. There are good reasons for using cases 2 and 3, but I would recommend case 1 for most application development, both for simplicity and performance. Your idea of not letting the LIBPATH be used for non- shared code restricts most apps to case 3. Paul Devriendt ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 13:18:43 on 92/06/23 GMT (by MCMILLAN at RALVM18) Subject: Installing Compilers Ref: Append at 19:41:56 on 92/06/22 GMT (by V$IPAULD at BCRVMPC1) As an application developer, I would hate to limit how my product can be installed because I have to hard-code path names of DLLs. That does not give the installer the flexibility they often want when installing a product (particularly in a LAN environment). Mark McMillan ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 14:37:31 on 92/06/23 GMT (by V$IPAULD at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Installing Compilers Ref: Append at 13:18:43 on 92/06/23 GMT (by MCMILLAN at RALVM18) > As an application developer, I would hate to limit how my product can > be installed because I have to hard-code path names of DLLs. I could not agree more. I don't see any reason for having hardcoded paths ANYWHERE - that is why I prefer to see people either importing DLLs by name or doing a DosLoadModule by DLL name, rather than doing a DosLoadModule by filespec ... let the system resolve it with LIBPATH. Paul Devriendt ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:57:01 on 92/06/23 GMT (by SSIA013 at OS2CUST) Subject: Installing Compilers Ref: Append at 14:37:31 on 92/06/23 GMT (by V$IPAULD at BCRVMPC1) > ... let the system resolve it with LIBPATH. This again leads us back to the issue of having the LIBPATH dynamic. And by the way, what if I install two products that just happen to have the same named DLL, but they are vastly different?? I don't remember seeing any global OS/2 DLL naming convention put forth that would aleaveate name conflicts?? Paul Kurr -- Stockholder Systems, Norcross GA ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:02:25 on 92/06/23 GMT (by PNWB016 at HONE81) Subject: Installing Compilers Ref: Append at 18:58:10 on 92/06/22 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) Nathan: The problem we run into with our product is that we don't have a standard configuration. Due to customer requirements we allow the user to specify where they want the DLLs to be placed. (Along with EXE, HLP and INI information.) We use a DLL to encapsulate our calls to the INI manager, so we found ourselves in a "Catch 22" in regards to figuring out where the DLLs are located. We ended up having our installation/update program update the workstations LIBPATH to point to the "correct" directory for that particular workstation. My point is that in theory I agree that it would be best for us to explicitly load the DLLs and not have to update the LIBPATH on the workstation... unfortunately sometimes the "best" solution can't be used. (BTW... we faced the same problem with the PATH specification.) Wayne Holmes U S WEST Communications ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:08:29 on 92/06/23 GMT (by CNADLER at WMAVM1) Subject: Installing Compilers Ref: Append at 14:37:31 on 92/06/23 GMT (by V$IPAULD at BCRVMPC1) The problem with loading by name is that there could be two different applications with the same name which have different DLL's associated with them. One way that has been suggested to overcome this problem is to determine the path to the executable program and do a DosLoadModule for all DLL's needed using that path as the path to the DLL. This would enable the executable and loadable modules to be together in the same directory, and would limit the LIBPATH to really only include those shared, system-type DLL's (some companies use the same DLL's in all their products, those would be considered system-type). Cliff Nadler Federal Sector Services Rockville, MD IBM Federal Systems Company PROFS: NADLER at WMAVM7 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 19:32:55 on 92/06/23 GMT (by TBHIC at OS2CUST) Subject: Installing Compilers Ref: Append at 18:58:10 on 92/06/22 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) Do you think the IBM programmers doing OS/2 TCP/IP know this? I don't know of any commercially available apps that do this. Do you? Matt Hickman, Chevron Matt@bhice.hou130.chevron.com ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 21:56:17 on 92/06/23 GMT (by AABA0EM at OS2CUST) Subject: Libpath Set in Concrete Ref: Append at 17:49:28 on 92/06/22 GMT (by TBHIC at OS2CUST) There seem to be a couple of important useability issues here: 1. When a user installs an application that stores its DLL's in a special directory the user must shutdown and reboot in order to use the application Not a very attractive thing to have to do given the time required to reboot OS/2 2.0, even on a 50MHz 486 machine. 2. DLL's are locked when in use. (Isn't this a result of discardable code segments? Is this necessary in a 32bit 4KB paged memory management world?) This makes doing software updatesa real pain. 3. There appear to be no recommended standards for the Naming, placement and general usage of DLLs. The naming problem has even bitten IBM. Remember teh ver 1.2 Spooler problems when using the EE OS/2LAN Requestor? Some general guidelines for developers about the naming, placement and usage of DLL's might make the BIG problem of the LIBPATH not being dynamic shrink to a little problem that is only a nit. Since ISV's with multiple packages might like to functions which are common to all packages in a single DLL available to all thier apps perhaps recommending the use of a single subdirectory for all of their DLL's, i.e. SPCDLL for Software Publishing etc., would reduce the reboot problem. Once one package from an ISV had been installed and the LIBPATH updated not further LIBPATH updates and reboots would be required when installing another package from the same ISV. I appreciate the importance of the performance issues. The design of a static LIBPATH is probably not the problem. The real problem is a lack of guidelines and suggested standards. Bob, OS/2 2.0 - Standards will set it free, Holmes Southern California Gas ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 01:57:50 on 92/06/24 GMT (by WZ00537 at OS2CUST) Subject: New York OS/2 Users Group Meeting OS/2 2.0 Users Group Meeting: Group meeting announcement: There will be a meeting of the New York OS/2 Users Group on June 30, at the New York offices of the IBM Corp. 590 Madison Avenue, 16th floor, at 6:30PM. The meeting will feature a tutorial on the Workplace Shell given by Steve Levenson, Author of "Now that I Have OS/2 2.0 on my computer, what do I do with it?" (Van Nostrand-1992). All are welcome. For more details, leave me a message. Bill Zack, Chairman, New York OS/2 Users Group ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 04:31:00 on 92/06/24 GMT (by V$IPAULD at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Libpath Set in Concrete Ref: Append at 21:56:17 on 92/06/23 GMT (by AABA0EM at OS2CUST) > 1. When a user installs an application that stores its DLL's in a > special directory the user must shutdown and reboot in order to > use the application. This is not true. A reboot is NOT required. If an app installs its DLLs in a special directory, that directory can be found with the "." in the LIBPATH, or the DLLs can be moved. If the app forces a special directory, then it must be because it is using a qualified filename on a DosLoadMod, so the DLL does not need to be in the LIBPATH. Please remember my recommendation of a single DLL directory for all apps. Please remember my recommendation of a single DLL directory for all apps. Please remember my recommendation of a single DLL directory for all apps. In my arguments against dynamic LIBPATH, I am not merely being awkward ! I do believe that virtually all situations can be worked around without an impossible amount of trouble. I do not want to add the extra complexity of a dynamic libpath to the product - I believe that there are more important improvements that the product needs. However, having said that, if you convince me that I am wrong, then I will raise a Design Change Request and try to drive it through (always easier when the developer supports it and writes the code before raising the DCR!!). > 2. DLL's are locked when in use. (Isn't this a result of discardable > code segments? Is this necessary in a 32bit 4KB paged memory > management world?) This makes doing software updates a real pain. Code and read-only data are discardable when loaded from fixed media. This is a simplification for 16-bit segments actually, but never mind that! So, if you page fault on something that has been discarded, it is read back in from the .EXE or .DLL file, not from the swap file. The logic is simple - why copy it into the swap file and have 2 copies of that page on the same hard file ? An API was introduced in 2.0 to allow a DLL to be replaced even though it is in use, but unfortunately it got lost from the docs. I have raised a DCR already to republish it. Basically the API moves discarded pages from the DLL into the swap file and then cuts the file free. If you need this API, have your SE submit a PSAR demanding fast action on DCR 1602. > 3. There appear to be no recommended standards for the Naming, placement > and general usage of DLLs. The naming problem has even bitten IBM. > Remember teh ver 1.2 Spooler problems when using the EE OS/2LAN > Requestor? I will write some if they would be useful. I could add in comments on performance and tuning of DLLs in a paged environment also. If people think this is a good thing to do, I will have a go. Paul Devriendt ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 14:20:09 on 92/06/24 GMT (by AABA0EM at OS2CUST) Subject: Libpath Set in Concrete Ref: Append at 04:31:00 on 92/06/24 GMT (by V$IPAULD at BCRVMPC1) Some guidance from IBM on DLL naming stnadards would be helpful. While I have suggested the requirement to our OS/2 developers, they have not yet done anything. However, now that OS/2 2.0 has a DLL with the same name that they chose for one of theirs they may be more receptive. I don't know how good this is, but I have suggested that all of our DLLs start with the same three characters, SCG in our case for Southern California Gas, with the last 5 characters used to describe the function. This will still require coordination between our development groups to prevent duplicating the last five characters. Bob, Not a duplicate of Wayne, Holmes, Southern California Gas ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:37:22 on 92/06/24 GMT (by TCC3961 at OS2CUST) Subject: Problems with XCOPY Ref: Append at 13:11:59 on 92/06/13 GMT (by BCFLYNN at NYCVMIC1) I did not have any errors in any of the communications logs that I could find. Thanks for the try, though. It sounded like it could have been the problem. Has anyone else experienced this problem with XCOPY? If so, have you corrected it and how? Craig ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:45:54 on 92/06/24 GMT (by TCC3961 at OS2CUST) Subject: What?, No More CSDs! Ref: Append at 18:57:12 on 92/06/18 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) I have not read on yet to find out if others have experienced the memory problems you speak of, but myself and some of my peers have. It is very annoying. I had 16 meg of memory and around 60 meg free on my drive with the swap file. It just seems that the shell never released the memory it used to pull up the icons. I believe you were seing blank "pages" instead of icons because it ran out of memory. I had over 600 icons in one directory and it did the same thing. I then split up the icons into several directories and was able to have them all displayed, but it was only a very short time before all memory was taken and I had to CTRL-ALT-DEL the machine. Craig ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:53:41 on 92/06/24 GMT (by TCC3961 at OS2CUST) Subject: Libpath Set in Concrete Ref: Append at 15:36:08 on 92/06/20 GMT (by AOI1075 at OS2CUST) I believe I can answer why some developers use many DLLs. It is not only to split them up by function, but to manange memory more effectively. A DLL is loaded into memory only when a function from the DLL is needed. If all of the functions were put into one or two DLLs, then all of the code would be loaded into memory at once. This one of the things that makes DLLs special. I personally see nothing wrong with many DLLs. After all, you keep all of them in the same place. I believe this is the reasoning behind using many DLLs. Someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong or if someone knows a better reason. Craig ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:02:28 on 92/06/24 GMT (by TCC3961 at OS2CUST) Subject: Libpath Set in Concrete Ref: Append at 00:39:42 on 92/06/22 GMT (by V$IPAULD at BCRVMPC1) I seem to be having to change my LIBPATH every time I turn around. It is nice to finally here an explanation of why the LIBPATH is static, though. Because I believe performance is the main reason for not going to a dynamic LIBPATH, how about offering an enhancement that allows users to add a path to their LIBPATH for a certain window, but still have the main LIBPATH static? This would allow changes to be made to test things without having to reboot and the performance only being degraded if that certian env. variable is set. This would still have the simplicity for normal users and the extra support that people working a lot with DLLs and the LIBPATH need. Craig ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:20:17 on 92/06/24 GMT (by XXMINC08 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Libpath Set in Concrete Ref: Append at 04:31:00 on 92/06/24 GMT (by V$IPAULD at BCRVMPC1) Paul, Your answer to the question about discardable segments jogged my memory about something that was bugging me awhile ago. Suppose that we need a page of memory for something and the memory manager decides to throw away a code page that hasn't been used recently. If we later need to access that code, we get a page fault and the memory manager reloads the code from the .exe or .dll. Isn't there a lot of overhead involved in loading the entire .exe or .dll and doing all of the relocations, or am I missing something obvious and this stuff doesn't really need to get done? If this really is going on, then it would seem to make sense to put these pages into swapper.dat as well. Bill Nelson Manulife Financial ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 17:41:21 on 92/06/24 GMT (by AOI1075 at OS2CUST) Subject: Libpath Set in Concrete Ref: Append at 16:20:17 on 92/06/24 GMT (by XXMINC08 at TORVMCOP) A few replies: Craig ?? and Mark McMillan -- The facts you quote support the use of DLL *MODULES*, with which I agree. This does not have a direct bearing on the packaging of DLL modules into DLL *FILES*. The application I mentioned with dozens of DLL files was placed on the LAN. The number of files blew the per-user open limit on the server. This application should keep all the DLL modules, but have fewer DLL files. Paul Kurr -- I have similar problems with compilers. Another thing that causes interesting problems with LIBPATH is developing and supporting Easel code. You have to flip LIBPATH (or copy DLLs) to switch Easel support. Since Easel charges for run-time licenses, we wind up running two or three levels of the compiler and run-time to support programs we develop. That means some action is required to move from one level to another. Getting everybody to the same run-time level costs money. Nathan Davis -- The technique you describe should be used, but I don't recall seeing any application that loads DLLs this way. What applications load DLLs this way? Paul Devriendt -- You made a statement along the lines 'LIBPATH works now, work on other improvements is more important, and the current status of LIBPATH is a good compromise'. I forgot to clip your statements before I started editing, so I forgive me if I have stated your view incorrectly. My reply to that is ---- 'Give me more flexible support for LIBPATH and you will have made a small but noticeable improvement to OS/2's performance'. I use '.;' and I have a directory to slop DLL files into, but I still have a LIBPATH long as your arm, and wind up doing re-boots often to change LIBPATH. Frankly, I have given up fighting LIBPATH problems. With one fixed directory, I have to install a product, then copy DLL files. After an upgrade, I have to copy DLL files. Since most products throw the DLLs into their own directory, and update LIBPATH, I live with that as best I can (and it requires less disk space). The point here is that customers have to do extra work because of the status of LIBPATH (impacting OS/2 negatively). Everybody -- What's the realistic maximum for PATH? I have seen problems that seemed to be caused by PATH getting too long. Is this possible? J.Farmer IBMMAIL(USAOIXGW) ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 18:38:00 on 92/06/24 GMT (by TBHIC at OS2CUST) Subject: Libpath Set in Concrete Ref: Append at 17:41:21 on 92/06/24 GMT (by AOI1075 at OS2CUST) re: problems with the path being to long. I get "network unreachable" error messages from TCP/IP when the path is too long. With TCP/IP 1.1 and OS/2 1.3, this happened if the tcp/ip bin directory was at the end of a long path. Under other circumstances (1.1 with OS/2 2.0) this happened with long paths nomatter where the bin directory was placed! Matt Hickman, Chevron ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 18:50:04 on 92/06/24 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Subject: Problems with XCOPY Ref: Append at 18:29:52 on 92/06/11 GMT (by TCC3961 at OS2CUST) I've XCOPY'd as much as 140 meg and have not run into the problem you reported. Not much help there.... I did search the list of reported problems and did not find one that matched the one your seeing. What I would suggest is that you go to the IBM Support section on the BBS and submit a new problem report. That will get it into "the system" to hopefully get you an answer. Brent Allen - IBM OS/2 Base Services Support ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 19:25:35 on 92/06/24 GMT (by IL03484 at OS2CUST) Subject: Can't Download DLLs We have been trying to download the fixes for OS/2 for a long time. I called IBM Tech Support and received a problem number - although no one responding to the problem knew how to resolve the issue. It was recommended th at we speak with our SE to see if he could assist us, and he tried. It was then recommended that we always call the support center to have the fixes sent to us on floppies. My feeling is there is probably a way to do this. We are using crosstalk for DOS using the ind$file transfer protocol. Any suggestions are appreciated Tom Hobbs Bituminous Insurance Co. ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 20:10:13 on 92/06/24 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Can't Download DLLs Ref: Append at 19:25:35 on 92/06/24 GMT (by IL03484 at OS2CUST) Depending what the file name is and what program you are trying to use, you could be running in to 1 of 2 problems. One is the DLL is OPEN, and you can't overwrite it, the other is the filename is a reserved DOS name, i.e. CON, LPT1, etc. Can you give more specifics please? Irv Spalten BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 22:06:48 on 92/06/24 GMT (by BCFLYNN at NYCVMIC1) Subject: Problems with XCOPY Ref: Append at 15:37:22 on 92/06/24 GMT (by TCC3961 at OS2CUST) Craig, just for drill, can you make the changes anyway?? Brian Flynn (BCFLYNN @ NYCVMIC1) 1992/06/24 18:05 EDT ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 03:11:58 on 92/06/25 GMT (by V$IPAULD at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Libpath Set in Concrete Ref: Append at 16:20:17 on 92/06/24 GMT (by XXMINC08 at TORVMCOP) > Suppose that we >need a page of memory for something and the memory manager decides to >throw away a code page that hasn't been used recently. If we later need >to access that code, we get a page fault and the memory manager reloads >the code from the .exe or .dll. Isn't there a lot of overhead involved >in loading the entire .exe or .dll Sorry, but you need to give the loader a little more credit than this. If a page has to be reloaded from the executable, I do NOT load the whole DLL ... the loader knows where that page is in the executable file and reads in just that page. Relocations are reapplied to just that page. Furthermore, there are some smarts going on under the covers where some pages in some circumstances will be cached into the swap file as a performance enhancement. Paul Devriendt ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 03:26:24 on 92/06/25 GMT (by V$IPAULD at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Libpath Set in Concrete Ref: Append at 15:53:41 on 92/06/24 GMT (by TCC3961 at OS2CUST) >I believe I can answer why some developers use many DLLs ... to >manange memory more effectively. A DLL is loaded into memory only >when a function from the DLL is needed. If all of the functions >were put into one or two DLLs, then all of the code would be >loaded into memory at once. This one of the things that makes DLLs >special. I personally see nothing wrong with many DLLs. Sorry, no. When a DLL is loaded, none of its code is loaded into memory. The DLL inititisation routine will then run, and this will cause page or segment faults to bring in only the required code. If you have a code segment (16 bit) or a whole load of pages in a code object (32 bit) that are never used, then this code will never be read from the disk, and will never have have RAM allocated to it. The most efficient way, in terms of storage utilisation, is to merge all the DLLs into a single large DLL, and to page tune that DLL. Pages that are never referenced are enevr loaded. Pages that have not been used recently are discarded. The loader has a large overhead for every DLL in the system - this overhead does not vary much if the DLL is large or small. So 1 big DLL is more efficient than 6 small DLLs, and this is true even as the DLL gets up to being a megabyte in size. We did a lot of work for 2.0 with system DLLs in merging DLLs for this very reason - take a look at OS2SM.DLL in 1.3 and in 2.0 ... in 1.3 it is a fair size, it has code in it; the 2.0 version is 1597 bytes ... the 2.0 version is not a DLL, but is a forwarder - there is no code in it, but is merely there for backwards comapibility for apps that know it by name from 1.x. Paul Devriendt ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 13:21:27 on 92/06/25 GMT (by MCMILLAN at RALVM18) Subject: Libpath Set in Concrete Ref: Append at 03:26:24 on 92/06/25 GMT (by V$IPAULD at BCRVMPC1) > When a DLL is loaded... Do mean dynamically loaded (via DosLoadModule), or loaded during load of the EXE by references in the .DEF file? Also, how do I 'page tune' my DLL? If it contains several functions which are used infrequently, how do I insure they are in a different page than the often-used functions? Is the scenario you described (where functions WITHIN a single DLL file are loaded when first called) true for OS/2 1.X also? Mark McMillan P.S. Sorry for the digression from the subject title, but I think this may be of interest to many folks doing OS/2 development... ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 14:13:30 on 92/06/25 GMT (by IL40400 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 Corrective Service Diskettes Is there an estimated release date of the first OS/2 2.0 Corrective Service Dis kette? ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:22:53 on 92/06/25 GMT (by AABA0EM at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 Corrective Service Diskettes Ref: Append at 14:13:30 on 92/06/25 GMT (by IL40400 at OS2CUST) Will any of the WPS problems be fixed in the first "CSD?" Bob, Where is that icon?, Holmes, Southern California Gas ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:38:58 on 92/06/25 GMT (by TBHIC at OS2CUST) Subject: Applying Patches to GA Files I may have missed this, but is there a way to apply patches to either the original diskettesor to diskette "images" made by seimage? Would like to do installs w/o the extra step of applying patches, Matt Hickman, Chevron IP: Matt@bhice.hou130.chevron.com ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:00:43 on 92/06/25 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Applying Patches to GA Files Ref: Append at 15:38:58 on 92/06/25 GMT (by TBHIC at OS2CUST) You shouldn't do this but if you asked, If you have the PACK.EXE wou can replace the packed file in the diskette. I did this with the IBM1s506.add . Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:04:50 on 92/06/25 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) Subject: Applying Patches to GA Files Ref: Append at 15:38:58 on 92/06/25 GMT (by TBHIC at OS2CUST) Matt, I agree with you. IBM needs to allow for this type of solution in conjuction with their new CSD policy. Tracy Pipkin, Amoco Production Company - Houston, TX, (713) 596-7720 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:09:40 on 92/06/25 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 2.0 Tips and Techniques Version 2.0 Does anybody know how to print this document so that it formats properly on each page (i.e. my page numbers are coming in the middle of the printed page). It makes it hard to find page 76. Thanks for your help. Tracy Pipkin, Amoco Production Company - Houston, TX, (713) 596-7720 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 17:25:02 on 92/06/25 GMT (by PNWB016 at HONE84) Subject: Libpath Set in Concrete Ref: Append at 15:53:41 on 92/06/24 GMT (by TCC3961 at OS2CUST) Craig: If the truth be know, we HAD a lot of DLLs in our application because we didn't know any better. After going to some OS/2 technical conferences, we are reducing our DLL's to 2. Wayne Holmes U S WEST Communications ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 18:36:03 on 92/06/25 GMT (by IL03484 at OS2CUST) Subject: TROUBLE! HELP!! I run a dual-boot machine, and everything seemed to work fine. This morning though, I am unable to get to the DOS system. When I try, I receive an error message of: "NON SYSTEM DISK OR DISK ERROR". Naturally I am booting from a hard drive, so I don't understand what has happened. Could anyone please tell me what files are required to boot from os2 to dos, and where the files should be located. If so, then I could see if I am missing something. Has anybody else had this problem? Any help would be appreciated Tom Hobbs Bituminous Insurance Co. ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 18:43:25 on 92/06/25 GMT (by IL03484 at OS2CUST) Subject: HELP!!! DUAL BOOT HELP!!! Could someone please tell me what files are required for a dual-boot machine, and where those files should be located? This questions stems from a problem that happened to me today. Up till this morning, dual boots were not a problem. This morning, when I tried to boot from os2 to dos I get "INVALID DOS VERSION" and the system expects a disk in drive A to resolve this system error. It dosn't seem to be related at all to the Autoexec.bat file, but I'm open for suggestions. Tom Hobbs Bituminous Insurance Co. ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 19:00:48 on 92/06/25 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Subject: HELP!!! DUAL BOOT HELP!!! Ref: Append at 18:43:25 on 92/06/25 GMT (by IL03484 at OS2CUST) The dual boot process in a nutshell is really the placement on the correct OS files in the root, saving of the alternate OS files to OS2\SYSTEM and a software reboot. These are the subject files that would appear in - ROOT of the OS2\SYSTEM OS2\SYSTEM Boot Drive OS/2 File DOS file BOOT Record - First Sector BOOT.OS2 BOOT.DOS CONFIG.SYS - CONFIG.SYS CONFIG.OS2 CONFIG.DOS AUTOEXEC.BAT- AUTOEXEC.BAT AUTOEXEC.OS2 AUTOEXEC.DOS DOS HIDDEN - IBMBIO.COM Files IBMDOS.COM OS2 HIDDEN - OS2LDR. Files OS2KRNL. The COMSPEC Statement in CONFIG.SYS for DOS should point to the proper location of COMMAND.COM. Some application may need it in the path, and on some older programs, it might have been required in the root. Placing OS/2's COMMAND.COM in the path without a COMSPEC can cause problems. OS2\SYSTEM will contain the other OS files than the one now active, and when BOOT /xxx is run the files are exchanged and the soft boot performed at that time. Irv Spalten BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 19:07:35 on 92/06/25 GMT (by CNADLER at WMAVM1) Subject: HELP!!! DUAL BOOT HELP!!! Ref: Append at 18:43:25 on 92/06/25 GMT (by IL03484 at OS2CUST) Several things could be causing this to happen: 1) Your COMSPEC statement in the DOS CONFIG.SYS is pointing to C:\COMMAND.COM which was copied by your OS/2 (1.3) AUTOEXEC.BAT which was migrated when you installed OS/2. Change your DOS COMSPEC to point at the COMMAND.COM in your DOS directory. 2) Somehow your COMMAND.COM in your DOS directory was replaced with either an OS/2 version or another level of DOS. Solution: Boot from DOS diskette and compare your COMMAND.COM sizes. If you change the DOS CONFIG.SYS to point at the one in the DOS directory rather than the OS/2 directory, you should be fine. Cliff Nadler Federal Sector Services Rockville, MD IBM Federal Systems Company PROFS: NADLER at WMAVM7 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 20:50:10 on 92/06/25 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 2.0 Tips and Techniques Version 2.0 Ref: Append at 17:52:08 on 92/06/25 GMT (by XXCDSX26 at TORVMCOP) Doesn't this seem to be a little more than expected for the end-user? Can't we get a document without the underscores? Then we could setup the printer for 66 lines. Tracy Pipkin, Amoco Production Company - Houston, TX, (713) 596-7720 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 22:05:33 on 92/06/25 GMT (by V$IPAULD at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Libpath Set in Concrete Ref: Append at 13:21:27 on 92/06/25 GMT (by MCMILLAN at RALVM18) Code in a DLL for OS/2 2.0 is not loaded until it is faulted in. This applies whether the DLL is loaded because of an import from an .EXE or another .DLL, or because of a DosLoadModule call. Yes, this applies to 1.3 also, but we are talking segments not pages. Page tuning can be done manually, but it is a very tedious job. If you have access to the Person Systems Developer magazine from IBM, take a look at the Spring 92 issue, page 64, where you will find an article by Jon Holliday (IBM Cary) on page tuning for 2.0. This technique was applied to some of the code in the 2.0 base. It is based on a tool called Segmentor from a company called Microquill (sorry I can't check the spelling, but I don't have the article in front of me - I had to phone Cary to check which issue the article was in!). Paul Devriendt ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 01:27:01 on 92/06/26 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Subject: OS/2 2.0 Tips and Techniques Version 2.0 Ref: Append at 20:50:10 on 92/06/25 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) If you're familiar with creating and running a Rexx program under OS/2, you can try the following program that will take the unnecessary underscores out of the OS2TNT.DOC file you have. /* */ in_file = 'OS2TNT.DOC' out_file = 'OS2TNT.NEW' Call LINEIN in_file,1,0 line = 0 Do While LINES(in_file) > 0 line = line + 1 input = LINEIN(in_file) If TRANSLATE(input,' ','_') <> ' ' | input = ' ' | line=2840 | line=2855 Then Call LINEOUT out_file,input End Call LINEOUT in_file Call LINEOUT out_file Exit This will create a new file (OS2TNT.NEW) that I think will line up every 66 lines. I've run this program and updated the OS2TNTD.ZIP file on the BBS so you can just download the "updated" version if you prefer. Sorry for the inconvenience, but we do not have the original source file that creates the OS2TNT.DOC file and don't have much control over the format. I'll pass along your comments to the document author to see if he can make things a little easier in future editions. Brent Allen - IBM OS/2 Base Services Support ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 11:54:32 on 92/06/26 GMT (by TJBARRO at CHGVMIC1) Subject: OS/2 2.0 Tips and Techniques Version 2.0 Ref: Append at 20:50:10 on 92/06/25 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) Tracy: Internally we have three versions of the OS/2 2.0 Tips and Techniques available: ASCII, LIST3820 (formatted AFP output), and an INF file. Do you have the INF version which you could put on- line? (i.e. the Command Reference is in INF format) Timothy J. Barron TEAM IBM Workstation Systems Engineer TJBARRO at CHGVMIC1 OS/2 Chicago Insurance Branch 098 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 12:01:57 on 92/06/26 GMT (by BFORNEY at RHQVM21) Subject: Not displaying a password I have a rexx program that logs onto my host session. I've modified the settings to ask for a password using the Brackets for the prompt. Is there any way to have the password not be displayed as I type it. Brian Forney (BFORNEY at RHQVM21) ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 12:05:13 on 92/06/26 GMT (by XXCDSX26 at TORVMCOP) Subject: OS/2 2.0 Tips and Techniques Version 2.0 Ref: Append at 01:27:01 on 92/06/26 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Brent: But can the author do anything about it? I highly suspect that the document is written in DCF/GML and that s/he scripted it to a file. If this is the case there is very little one can do except run a conversion program against it. Doesn't IBM have a PC based DCF/GML product that support other PC formats? If not, may I recommend that you contact the people who develop SPF/2, CTC, as I believe they have such a product. Michael Harper - Cdn Depository for Securities, Ltd ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:59:37 on 92/06/26 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 2.0 Tips and Techniques Version 2.0 Ref: Append at 11:54:32 on 92/06/26 GMT (by TJBARRO at CHGVMIC1) I downloaded the ASCII version. This is the kind of information I would prefer to read via a printed copy. At least, it has the appearence to be that type. I'll try Brent's REXX program to remove the underscores. By the way, one of my biggest complaints with any README file is making sure that it prints off on any printer properly. This has included the CSD APAR listing that IBM includes. ANY README type text file needs to be directly printable on any printer (60 or 66 line mode). Tracy Pipkin, Amoco Production Company - Houston, TX, (713) 596-7720 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 20:14:39 on 92/06/26 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 2.0 Tips and Techniques Version 2.0 Ref: Append at 01:27:01 on 92/06/26 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Brent, Thanks for the REXX program. It worked great. Tracy Pipkin, Amoco Production Company - Houston, TX, (713) 596-7720 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 20:30:38 on 92/06/26 GMT (by XXCWBD04 at TORVMCOP) Subject: OS/2 2.0 Tips and Techniques Version 2.0 Ref: Append at 12:05:13 on 92/06/26 GMT (by XXCDSX26 at TORVMCOP) If anyone finds a way to do this please let me know as well. We want to do this function. Greg Athayde (204) 983-3801 Canadian Wheat Board ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 21:04:36 on 92/06/26 GMT (by MFDS017 at OS2CUST) Subject: Dual Boot While dual-booting from DOS to OS/2 I'm getting errors: OS/2 !! SYS03146 OS/2 !! SYS02027 JOHN KNAM - MERRILL LYNCH - SOMERSET N.J. ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 02:31:47 on 92/06/27 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Subject: OS/2 2.0 Tips and Techniques Version 2.0 Ref: Append at 01:27:01 on 92/06/26 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Brent, a similar situation exists for the text file with PS2 Assistant. After downloading and uncompressing the files, there is one called PS2ASST.TXT - it is clear and very helpful. However, when you lift the icon and drop it on the printer icon and click on plain text, the first page gets printed and there are only 2 lines on the 2nd page. Page 3 is a full page, but 4 includes 7 lines ending with a ":". Pages 5 and 6 follows the same pattern, as does 7 and 8. Nevertheless, pages 9 and 10 don't - 9 is a complete page and 10 fills up half a page. I assume my 4019 emulates a proprinter when it does plain text. Are there some "page eject" commands hidden in such a file? Or have such text files been designed to user a smaller font than the system default? Will this be typical of most downloaded docs, because people who prepare the docs are mainframe printer users rather than us desktop OS2 types? ;-) Elliott M. Avedon University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1 (519) 885-1211 x2204 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 11:09:44 on 92/06/27 GMT (by ARNOLDHF at FSHVMFK1) Subject: Dual Boot Ref: Append at 21:04:36 on 92/06/26 GMT (by MFDS017 at OS2CUST) I'm not familiar with the first message, but it usually means that something is missing on the hard disk. The second one (02047) means "Insert a bootable disk" (kinda hard with a hard disk, ain't it??). I seem to recall discussions on an internal IBM forum about a .MSG file getting inadvertently wacked. Boot from diskette (Boot the Install disk, insert Disk 1 and press escape at the first opportunity) and check the boot drive. I'm listing below the *.MSG files that appear on my system as a reference. I'd suspect that OS2LDR.MSG may be corrupted or missing. If so, you can just copy it from the Install diskette and (hopefully) you should be up and running.... OS2LDR MSG E:\ ISPD MSG E:\OS2\INSTALL\ ISPM MSG E:\OS2\INSTALL\ OSO001 MSG E:\OS2\SYSTEM\ OSO001H MSG E:\OS2\SYSTEM\ SPL MSG E:\OS2\SYSTEM\ SPLH MSG E:\OS2\SYSTEM\ REX MSG E:\OS2\SYSTEM\ REXH MSG E:\OS2\SYSTEM\ DEV002 MSG E:\OS2\SYSTEM\ UCDFS MSG E:\OS2\SYSTEM\ SACDI MSG E:\OS2\SYSTEM\ Hank Arnold IBM East Fishkill ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 23:39:45 on 92/06/27 GMT (by RAYCLARK at BLDVM4) Subject: Dual Boot Ref: Append at 21:04:36 on 92/06/26 GMT (by MFDS017 at OS2CUST) The SYS2027 means to "insert a system diskette and restart the system" Is it possible that you have a floppy in the floppy drive? Raymond J Clark IBM Federal Systems Company Boulder,Colorado ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 11:48:59 on 92/06/29 GMT (by WZ00511 at OS2CUST) ..... OS2QANDA CFORUM modified at 11:46:08 on 92/07/01 GMT (by WZ00511 at OS2CUST) Subject: X-Windows for OS/2 2.0 This APPEND was deleted at 07:46:07 on 07/01/92 EST. ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 11:58:27 on 92/06/29 GMT (by WZ00511 at OS2CUST) Subject: X-Windows for OS/2 2.0 IBM'ers: I need to get IBM's X-Windows product for OS/2 2.0. We need it so that we can access the Synoptics software we have running on a Sparcstation from our OS/2 2.0 stations. I need this product yesterday. I'm trying to help my SE and marketing rep. find it. The last time I talked to them they said that they are not sure where to look for it on the internal network. (They haven't ever dealt with this kind of software before. Moreover, in their defense, they are also going through alot of changes in the local IBM office here and they are very pressed for time... and, of course, I am not their only customer). Can someone point us in the right direction, please? Thanks in advance. Brad Bueche NationsBank EUC/Hotline Support Norfolk, VA ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:04:42 on 92/06/29 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Subject: OS/2 2.0 Tips and Techniques Version 2.0 Ref: Append at 02:31:47 on 92/06/27 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Yes, there are page ejects (ASCII '12'x) in the document. They're not really "hidden", if you look on line 61 you'll see the funny character. That's the form feed. Brent Allen - IBM OS/2 Base Services Support ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 17:45:40 on 92/06/29 GMT (by TBHIC at OS2CUST) Subject: Applying Patches to GA Files Ref: Append at 16:04:50 on 92/06/25 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) Are you listening IBM? For each patch put out, we need documentation on how to patch the diskette images that many of us use to install new workstations. This could be as simple as a .cmd file that grabs the source dirsctory location and applies them itself. Matt Hickman, Chevron Matt@bhice.hou130.chevron.com ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:28:45 on 92/06/30 GMT (by MCMILLAN at RALVM18) Subject: X-Windows for OS/2 2.0 Ref: Append at 11:58:27 on 92/06/29 GMT (by WZ00511 at OS2CUST) I believe that the OS/2 X-windows support is part of the TCP/IP for OS/2 product. An IBM SE could get it from the 'OS2PROD' disk in one of the following packages: TCPBASE 1.2.1 92/06/02 IBM TCP/IP Version 1.2.1 for OS/2, Base Package TCPDOC 1.2.1 92/06/02 IBM TCP/IP Version 1.2.1 for OS/2-Publications-L TCPPROG 1.2.1 92/06/02 IBM TCP/IP Version 1.2.1 OS/2, Programmer's Tool TCP121 1.2.1 92/06/02 IBM TCP/IP Version 1.2.1 for OS/2 (3.5" 1.44M) TCPNFS 1.2.1 92/05/22 IBM TCP/IP Version 1.2.1 for OS/2 (3.5" 1.44M) TCPPMX 1.2.1 92/05/22 IBM TCP/IP Version 1.2.1 for OS/2, X Windows Ser TCPSRC 1.2.1 92/05/22 IBM TCP/IP Version 1.2.1 for OS/2,Source Code Ki TCPX25 1.2.1 92/05/22 IBM TCP/IP Version 1.2.1 for OS/2, X.25 kit (3.5 Mark McMillan ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 21:18:29 on 92/06/30 GMT (by MGIC010 at OS2CUST) Subject: Keyboard Hook I have written an application message hook (WinSetHook(hab, hmq, HK_INPUT, pfn, NULL) that converts the numeric keypad + key and the numeric keypad * key into Tab and Backtab equivalents and they work fine. Now I want to make the Backquote key (upper left corner of the key board) into another Backtab equivalent. It works, and shift-Backquote shows the tilde character. However, I want Ctrl-Backquote and Alt-Backquote to show the backquote character (by masking off the ctrl and alt bits); but nothing happens. When I trap with Codeview, I see that the input WM_CHAR message for the Ctrl-Backquote combo has the shift-bit set true in addition to the true ctrl-bit I expected. 1) Why? At present I write new flag values, etc., over the incoming message and then return FALSE. 2) Must I instead post shift-keydown, backtab-keydown, backtab-keyup and shift-keyup messages before returning TRUE in order to keep the shift-bit clear? 3) Am I getting into trouble if I just program around the shift-bit? System info: OS/2 Ver 1.3, Microsoft C 6.0 Jim Pendzick, MGIC ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 22:33:17 on 92/06/30 GMT (by XXMINC08 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Libpath Set in Concrete Ref: Append at 03:11:58 on 92/06/25 GMT (by V$IPAULD at BCRVMPC1) Thanks Paul. I was hoping you would say something like this. Keep up the good work!! Bill Nelson Manulife Financial ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 08:19:33 on 92/07/01 GMT (by SDETWEIL at DETVMIC4) Subject: Dual Boot Ref: Append at 21:04:36 on 92/06/26 GMT (by MFDS017 at OS2CUST) SYS03146 says that the file OS2LDR could NOT be found in the root directory of the boot drive. This is 'usually' caused by a NON system diskette left in a drive. 'Sometimes' its caused by someone looking around with some file tree viewer and seeing some ???.MSG and erasing it.. Sam ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 08:24:03 on 92/07/01 GMT (by SDETWEIL at DETVMIC4) Subject: Applying Patches to GA Files Ref: Append at 17:45:40 on 92/06/29 GMT (by TBHIC at OS2CUST) The PACK tool is provided as part of the Toolkit product. There are some problems with what you are asking for, (I know, I've been fighting this same problem for a couple of years as part of the Lan install of systems and CSDs)... Anyhow 1. If the NEW packed file is larger then the old one, and there is no space on the diskette 2. If a NEW file is introduced (been one on every CSD so far) then the original install doesn't know what to do with it 3. If some new file dependancies (a from bundle 1 needs c from bundle 4) are created that the original install didn't know about.. Sam ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 11:54:47 on 92/07/01 GMT (by MCMILLAN at RALVM18) Subject: Keyboard Hook Ref: Append at 21:18:29 on 92/06/30 GMT (by MGIC010 at OS2CUST) You might want to try the OS2PMPGM forum on this conference. The PM gurus hang out there for these kind of technical PM questions... Mark McMillan ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:15:45 on 92/07/01 GMT (by USBC238 at OS2CUST) Subject: Cursor display in OS/2 or DOS sessions Is there any way to set the cursor blink to solid cursor (no blink at all)? There is a user with a health condition where the blinking cursor could be a potential problem. If possible I would like to have the blink suppressed in all OS/2 and DOS sessions. Charles Boyce - US Bank - Systems Specialist ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:54:52 on 92/07/01 GMT (by A157623 at OS2CUST) Subject: Why does OS/2 care about ROM make and version Rom make and version obviously seems to matter to OS/2. How is rom used? At installation, at IPL, DOS mode only? Wayne Fulton Texas Instruments ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:19:30 on 92/07/02 GMT (by IL52138 at OS2CUST) Subject: SPOOLER SIZE LIMITING There is a concern that the spooler may require an amount of hard disk space wh ich causes other programs to fail because they are unable to use additional har d disk space. Is there a way to limit the amount of hard disk space that the s pooler may use ? A feature similar to the size parameter used with the swapper would be sufficient. A more desirable feature would be an absolute size, beyon d which the spooler could not grow. Thank you. Bob Snead ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:31:33 on 92/07/02 GMT (by OCANUC at BETASVM2) ..... OS2QANDA CFORUM modified at 18:47:54 on 92/07/02 GMT (by OCANUC at BETASVM2) Subject: SPOOLER SIZE LIMITING Ref: Append at 15:19:30 on 92/07/02 GMT (by IL52138 at OS2CUST) To my knowledge, Bob, what you're asking for is not available. You could kludge a solution by placing the swap file in its own partition. This would limit the size of the file to the size of the partition. I, personally, am moving the other way. I tend to recommend having as few partitions as possible (ideally one). Brandon Booth Advanced Programming - ICSRS ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 00:37:49 on 92/07/05 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) Subject: System Configuration Utility Requirement It seems with every ETR that I open via IBMLink that I am asked for information about the configuration, both hardware and software, of my system. The only way I was able to find some of it was to re-boot from a DOS diskette and run the Microsoft Diagnostic (MSD) to generate a report as neither MSD nor several other useful DOS tools will run under OS/2 (even in the DOS window - did not try a VDM). IBM should provide some utility/tool to provide a report with the information that Level 2/3 will need to relieve the requirement for the user/customer to attempt to identify how to provide what is asked for. Such a tool must be able to report on the hardware configuration w/bios levels plus the current config.sys, startup.cmd, startup folder, current active programs, swap size, memory available and allocated (and to whom perhaps), etc. Last week I was asked by one of our users who is somewhat proficient in the use of OS/2 and might be considered a 'power' user what an IRQ is - he is a user and not a workstation specialist and knows his applications but should not have to be concerned with what is under the covers in order to report a problem. Lionel Dyck - Rockwell International, Information Systems Center ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 02:57:35 on 92/07/05 GMT (by IL26761 at OS2CUST) Subject: System Configuration Utility Requirement Ref: Append at 00:37:49 on 92/07/05 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) Lionel, I have been able to get the most current version of MSD to run fine in both a dos window, and full screen. I say the most current as I just down loaded the version I was using from the uSoft BBS a week ago. You might want to try that, but beware as some of the things it sees are virtualized versions of what is on the system. Jack Hiatt MARC-Life Atlanta Ga. P*hxft68a ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 19:25:27 on 92/07/05 GMT (by HNDERSON at AUSVM8) Subject: X-Windows for OS/2 2.0 Ref: Append at 11:58:27 on 92/06/29 GMT (by WZ00511 at OS2CUST) Hope this helps! To discuss X Window System facilities that run on OS/2. The X Window System (trademark of MIT) is a network transparent windowing system developed at MIT. It runs under 4.3BSD UNIX (UNIX is a trademark of AT&T Bell Laboratories), AIX and many other UNIX versions. X display servers run on computers with either monochrome or color bit mapped displays. The server distributes user keyboard and mouse input to various X clients (applications) and displays output from the clients located either on the same machine or elsewhere in the network. The following portions of the X Window System are available for OS/2 in the OS/2 TCP/IP 1.2 product. 1. An X server called PMX, for displaying output of X clients. 2. Several X client utility programs. 3. Fonts from both AIX and the standard MIT release 4 fonts. 4. A font compiler and other font utilities. 5. 32 bit APIs (either Xlib and toolkits) are available for porting X clients to OS/2, in beta test version. __ __ ___ __ __ _ _ | |_| | / \ | \| | | |./ / Hank Henderson HNDERSON at AUSVM8 | _ | / _~_ \ Sincerely | . < on Assignment to OS/2 BBS (TEAMOS2) |__| |__| /_/ \_\ |__|\__| |_| \_\ Austin, Texas ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 22:42:15 on 92/07/05 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: System Configuration Utility Requirement Ref: Append at 00:37:49 on 92/07/05 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) Lionell, The MSD works fine , just add the MSD.EXE,5,10,255 to the DOS_VERSION . I think what you need is not a'fix' to the interrupt driver, it is a native 32 bit OS/2 scanner-driver. Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 13:31:39 on 92/07/06 GMT (by FHUT055 at OS2CUST) Subject: DCAF Installation Cry for Help A cry for help to all of you Communications experts out there! I am trying to install DCAF for remote dial-in to our LAN, and I am getting stuck. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated. I have a PS/2 8570-A21 Target with OS/2 EE 1.30.2 (5050) and a PS/2 8573 Controling workstation with OS/2 2.0. I just want to set up an asynchronous link to dial in to the target (via 9600 bd modems) to connect to the LAN. The P70 gives me a trap error when I load the DCAF drivers, and the target won't do 3270 anymore, since I loaded the asynchronous information in Comm. Mgr. The DCAF books seem to be totally worthless. I need to get this functioning this week - if possible. If anyone can help on the BBS, I will be checking often. If you want to call with lengthy questions or suggestions, I am at 612-945-4036. Thanks in advance. Beth Wagner - Fingerhut Companies ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 14:06:19 on 92/07/06 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) Subject: Serial Device Support I have an IBM PS/2 Model 90-0KD (33MHz; 320 Meg hard disk). In my browsing of the OS/2 Command Reference 10G6313 (which was NOT included as part of the OS/2 documentation), I found a reference to the COMDMA.SYS device driver. It mentions that this device driver is for Model 90 and 95. What's the difference? Also, the OS/2 installation program installed the COM.SYS file not the COMDMA.SYS file. Why? So where is the COMDMA.SYS file located. I guess that I will need to UNPACK. Let me know what I need to do. Thanks for your assistance. Tracy Pipkin, Amoco Production Company - Houston, TX, (713) 596-7720 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 14:14:58 on 92/07/06 GMT (by BRYAN at BCRVMPC1) Subject: OS/2 2.0 Tips and Techniques Version 2.0 Ref: Append at 12:05:13 on 92/06/26 GMT (by XXCDSX26 at TORVMCOP) Actually, if the original file was created in GML/SCRIPT the author does have control over the use of underscores. So there is some hope for future versions of the document. Barry Bryan ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 14:54:33 on 92/07/06 GMT (by PNWB016 at HONE85) Subject: System Configuration Utility Requirement Ref: Append at 00:37:49 on 92/07/05 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) Lionel: My SE got me a copy of a program called "QSYSTEM" that I THINK is an internal IBM program. It dumps all the information needed... right down to what kind of card is in what microchannel slot. (Also works for ISA/EISA machines.) A while back someone at the support center asked for the QSYSTEM output, I notified my SE and he showed up with the program a day later. The programmers name that appears on the listing is Jeff Muir. Hey... if this really is an IBM program, why not have this posted on the OS2BBS. I know this program has been VERY helpful to me, I just run it on the target machine and paste the output into the ETR. Wayne "I hope this isn't considered confidential information" Holmes U S WEST Communications ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:44:29 on 92/07/06 GMT (by WALKERPB at HOUVMSCC) Subject: Print Screen Text only from OS/2 (or Dos) Command Windows I would like to print text only from OS/2 or DOS windows. All that seems to work is the graphics type achieved by depressing the "Print Screen" key only. That results in a lot of reverse video print (like BLACK!!!). The combination Shift-Print Screen does not seem to work in this environment (works in the Com Mgr HOST sessions only). I would like to thus print text only. It has been suggested that I couold disable to graphics print, but sometimes I need that also. Is there any way to have both?? Appended: 10:44:18 CDT 6 Jul 1992 by Paul Walker TL:260-3189 WALKERPB at HOUVMSCC Performance & Capacity Planning ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:46:54 on 92/07/06 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Subject: Serial Device Support Ref: Append at 14:06:19 on 92/07/06 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) The reference to COMDMA.SYS is incorrect. In the older beta drops, it was a separate file. Sometime near the GA timeframe, the DMA function was incorporated into COM.SYS. Unfortunately the documentation did not get updated to reflect that change. Brent Allen - IBM OS/2 Base Services Support ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:49:16 on 92/07/06 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) Subject: Serial Device Support Ref: Append at 15:46:54 on 92/07/06 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Thanks Brent! Are you going to pass on to the appropriate documentation folks. Tracy Pipkin, Amoco Production Company - Houston, TX, (713) 596-7720 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:50:20 on 92/07/06 GMT (by WALKERPB at HOUVMSCC) Subject: Is there eny way of interrupting CMD files? In the "old" BAT files in DOS, one could easibly interrupt by striking the combination Ctrl-Break. That does not seem to work in an OS/2 window. I have found that I can "close" the CMD file by double-clickeing on the upper LH icon, but that closes the whole window, and not just the CMD file. The old Ctrl-Break was quick when one needed a quick interrruption. Is there no equivalent in OS/2? If there is, what is it?? Appended: 10:50:18 CDT 6 Jul 1992 by Paul Walker TL:260-3189 WALKERPB at HOUVMSCC Performance & Capacity Planning ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:19:26 on 92/07/06 GMT (by OCANUC at BETASVM2) Subject: Print Screen Text only from OS/2 (or Dos) Command Windows Ref: Append at 15:44:29 on 92/07/06 GMT (by WALKERPB at HOUVMSCC) I "print" the text in command windows by copying the text to the clipboard (using the system menu function), copying the text from the clipboard to an editor (the Enhanced Editor, EPM) and then using the editor to print. Its a little cumbersome, but not too bad. Brandon Booth Advanced Programming - ICSRS ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 18:57:02 on 92/07/06 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) Subject: System Configuration Utility Requirement Ref: Append at 14:54:33 on 92/07/06 GMT (by PNWB016 at HONE85) Wayne, Thanks for the suggestion. I remember seeing QSYSTEM awhile back on my SE's machine and thought it would be great to have for just this purpose. Unfortunately I did not get it then and now wish I had it. I too agree that this would help both us and IBM. Today we are in the same place with OS/2 that we were with MVS prior to IPCS and being unable to use AMDPRDMP. Until IBM provides the tools we are at their mercy when trying to diagnose a problem - they ask, we provide, they ask for more and then at some point as Bill Mosteller once said at a SHARE session - level 2 will ask for a yellow rock. Seems like delaying tactics to see how critical the problem really is. Fortunately most of the OS/2 problems have been handled much better than my early MVS problems and I have not been asked for the yellow rock (yet). Lionel Dyck - Rockwell International, Information Systems Center ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 19:33:15 on 92/07/06 GMT (by WHITE at BETVTVM1) Subject: System Configuration Utility Requirement Ref: Append at 18:57:02 on 92/07/06 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) A "system configuration reporter utility" is included with Extended Services/2 Version 1 (ES/2). On the first diskette of ES/2 there are several "applets" that are not automatically installed. One of these is SNAPDUMP (you will see a SNAPDUMP.ZIP file). Within this package is a program called QMC.EXE -- this program will provide system configuration information when run under either a DOS or OS/2 session. (It is a version of the QSYSTEM utility mentioned earlier in this note string.) The utility needed to unpack SNAPDUMP.ZIP (PKUNZIP2) has also been distributed with ES/2 and is installed in /OS2/INSTALL. Hope this helps! Joe White IBM ImagePlus MVS/ESA Program Management but just another OS/2 V2 user ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 19:44:32 on 92/07/06 GMT (by SLAUSON at YKTVMV) Options: LOG OS2QANDA APPENDS SENDTO YKTVMV IBMPC IBMPC OS2QANDA CFORUM Subject: Libpath Set in Concrete Ref: Append at 17:49:28 on 92/06/22 GMT (by TBHIC at OS2CUST) I joined this thread a little late (I've been on vacation... still am <g>) but if you're using IBM's LAN SERVER, I have written a little program called NETCLOSE that will allow you to force any locked files closed (such as DLLs) on the fileserver, so that they can be updated. There are some risks in using NETCLOSE... when we update DLLs out from under our LAN users, they will occasionally experience traps the next time they use the application. But it *does* allow locked DLLs on a fileserver to be updated. It uses Lan Server API calls to force the files closed. Note that NETCLOSE *only* works for locked fileserver files... not for files that were locked on a user's personal disk. If there is enough interest, I will consider placing NETCLOSE in the Employee Written Software program (or whatever it's called) so that it can be made available on this BBS. David Slauson - IBM T.J. Watson Research Center ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 19:58:23 on 92/07/06 GMT (by DHAIGH at RALVM14) Subject: System Configuration Utility Requirement Ref: Append at 18:57:02 on 92/07/06 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) There is an effort to get our internally developed tools to you the customer on an as-is-no-support basis. It is up to the author of the tool to get it prepared for distribution by packaging it in a zip file, fill out the necessary forms, getting the forms reviewed by our legal department (so we don't give away some code that isn't ours), and send it to Boca to be put on the BBS. This was just announced so it may be a bit before they start showing up, but keep watching- they'll be there soon enough. Maybe QSYSTEM will be one of them. Doug Haigh ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 20:22:31 on 92/07/06 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) Subject: System Configuration Utility Requirement Ref: Append at 19:33:15 on 92/07/06 GMT (by WHITE at BETVTVM1) The QMC and Qsystem are not adquate. I just borrowed a copy from my SE and also unzip'd the QMC from the Snapdump. Snapdump seems more complete but also somewhat un-usable as it contains binary data that is hard to read. The key to such a tool is being able to provide the information that level 2 typically asks for: 1. Hardware configuration (QMC does that to a limited degree) 2. Active device drivers/environment configuration 3. Active programs 4. ? Lionel Dyck - Rockwell International, Information Systems Center ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 20:28:16 on 92/07/06 GMT (by TKP at RHQVM14) Subject: Speeding up WINOS2 Ref: Append at 19:58:23 on 92/07/06 GMT (by DHAIGH at RALVM14) I run Quicken for Windows using seamless windows from the Workplace Shell on a PS/2 P70 with 8 megs. It takes close to 2 minutes after I double click on the Quicken icon for WINOS2 to start up, after which performance is quite satisfactory. Is there any way to speed up the initialization process? Thanks in advance. Tom Philips ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 22:11:41 on 92/07/06 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Speeding up WINOS2 Ref: Append at 20:28:16 on 92/07/06 GMT (by TKP at RHQVM14) You can speed up a little by tuning the DPMI,.. settings, but: When you start up Quicken for Windows the following happens: 1. OS/2 allocates the memory for the MDOS session. 2. MDOS boots up with the autoexec,... 3. Windows start with all the autoload in the win.ini 4. quicken starts. If you have ANY small win app (like clock.exe) running, then when you start Quickenw it starts from step 4. so MUCH faster. Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 00:35:35 on 92/07/07 GMT (by NANR6GN at OS2CUST) Subject: Running out of memory Well folks, I have encountered my first problem with OS/2. I have a PS/2 Model 70 20Mhz, 16 Meg of Memory, 120 Meg Hard Disk. I have been running 2.0 since the Beta, and GA since April 7th. My problem started today, when after reading a Q&A in IBMLink, I changed my PC/3270 for Windows session from full screen to "Seamless". Everything was ok, then in the afternoon I wanted to use My modem to dial a bulletin board, and I received a message that said I didn't have enough memory to end a task to free some up. The only things running on the system at the time were: 1. SYSTEM CLOCK 2. MEMSIZE (Which has a problem with the memory it shows) 3. Winos2 Seamless session with PC/3270.(3 terminal sessions, 1 printer) 4. Data Update 5. Clipboard The question is what is causing this to happen? When I run PC/3270 from a Winos/2 full screen I don't have any problems. I proved that out this afternoon by taking everything out of the startup folder and placing them on the desktop, rebooting and starting everything manually. The only diference was that I ran PC/3270 from a full screen WINOS/2 session. If anyone is wondering why I don't use communication manager, it's that PC/3270 for Windows has scaleable fonts, and I can make my windows small and still see the full screen. Cesar Ventura Telesector Resources Group ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 01:59:39 on 92/07/07 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Speeding up WINOS2 Ref: Append at 20:28:16 on 92/07/06 GMT (by TKP at RHQVM14) In the first issue of INSIDE OS/2 (V1 N1 - July 1992) by The Cobb Group (PO Box 35160, Louisville, KY 40232), the 2nd article is a description of how to load M$Windows applications faster. In summary, they say loading from the desktop takes 13 secs, but using their system takes 4 secs. The trade off is during startup - you add 9 secs. The advise putting the Windows Clock in the OS2 Startup folder, and then WinOS2 is always sitting in RAM! The article is quite explicit with step by step details. Elliott M. Avedon University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1 (519) 885-1211 x2204 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 02:08:49 on 92/07/07 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Subject: IBM's Multimedia Presentation Manger/2 According to an announcment letter B92-275, this software is suppose to provide "multimedia extensions" to OS2. Does anyone know if this program with satisfy M$Win applications that require M$ multimedia extentions? Also the announcement letter says planned availability is June 30, 1992. Has the package been made available? Can one buy it now? Finally, when are we going to get a "MultiMedia" IConf on the LINK? I'm not the first one to ask for it, but there hasn't been a response to the previous requests. Elliott M. Avedon University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1 (519) 885-1211 x2204 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 02:16:19 on 92/07/07 GMT (by THRUMD at SYDVM1) Subject: Speeding up WINOS2 Ref: Append at 01:59:39 on 92/07/07 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Yes, pre-loading Windows will shorten loading time for subsequent apps that are set to load in an existing windows session. An alternative to using the clock is to load PROGMAN.EXE. This will give you the standard Windows Program Manager, and gives users the option of starting Windows applications from there as well as from WPS program objects. Dave ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 03:56:21 on 92/07/07 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) Subject: Print Screen Text only from OS/2 (or Dos) Command Windows Ref: Append at 15:44:29 on 92/07/06 GMT (by WALKERPB at HOUVMSCC) Text-mode PrintScreen only works from full-screen sessions. Nathan Davis ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 12:27:05 on 92/07/07 GMT (by IL89769 at OS2CUST) Subject: HOW TO DOWNLOAD WITH PMTERMINAL I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO USE THE PMTERMINAL TO DOWNLOAD THE README.ZIP FILE BUT GE T ONLY ERRORS IN THE ERROR COUNT BOX. I HAVE TRIED A NUMBER OF EMULATIONS AND FILE TRANSFER PROTOCOLS WITHOUT SUCCESS. CAN YOU HELP ME? JOE GOMEZ ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 12:42:58 on 92/07/07 GMT (by TJBARRO at CHGVMIC1) Subject: Speeding up WINOS2 Ref: Append at 20:28:16 on 92/07/06 GMT (by TKP at RHQVM14) Try loading the Windows Clock at IPL and run it in the same WIN-OS/2 session. You should notice at least a 50% improvment because the DOS and WIN-OS2 kernels don't have to be (re)loaded. Timothy J. Barron TEAM IBM Workstation Systems Engineer TJBARRO at CHGVMIC1 OS/2 Chicago Insurance Branch 098 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 14:47:00 on 92/07/07 GMT (by WALKERPB at HOUVMSCC) Subject: Lines too long in CONFIG.SYS? I installed an old copy of SIDEKICK, which appeared to install all right However...now I note an error message on boot, which complains about a line in CONFIG.SYS. Upon inspection, this line is an "overflow" from a long PATH statement, which at the 255th character, overflows into a second line. Now the boot process is complaining about that next line. I tried re-editing with EPM to assure a longer line, or a continuation, but nothing seemed to work. Any suggestions? Appended: 09:46:37 CDT 7 Jul 1992 by Paul Walker TL:260-3189 WALKERPB at HOUVMSCC Performance & Capacity Planning ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:00:21 on 92/07/07 GMT (by WALKERPB at HOUVMSCC) Subject: Print Screen Text only from OS/2 (or Dos) Command Windows Ref: Append at 03:56:21 on 92/07/07 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) Thank you very much. Now, the second question. Alt-Home toggles the DOS session from window to Full Screen. However, it does not appear to be so for an OS/2 window. Does anyone know of an easy way to go from OS/2 Window to full-screen? Appended: 10:00:16 CDT 7 Jul 1992 by Paul Walker TL:260-3189 WALKERPB at HOUVMSCC Performance & Capacity Planning ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:09:11 on 92/07/07 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Print Screen Text only from OS/2 (or Dos) Command Windows Ref: Append at 15:00:21 on 92/07/07 GMT (by WALKERPB at HOUVMSCC) It doesn't work this way. The reason: in full screen cmd you have a different subset of API functions available than in windowed session. All the KBD MOU MON VIO DEVCTL has a different meanings. We got the full-screen just for backward compatibility ONLY. you (we) shouldn't develop anything to full-screen anymore. Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:12:32 on 92/07/07 GMT (by BILLH at SBRYVM4) Subject: Lines too long in CONFIG.SYS? Ref: Append at 14:47:00 on 92/07/07 GMT (by WALKERPB at HOUVMSCC) EPM is limited to 255 chars per line. Use the system editor(E.EXE) to edit the config.(yes its actually good for something) 7 Jul 1992 12:12:17 ========================================================= Bill Hegarty Emerging Business Systems - ISSC Southbury, Ct 203-262-4984 T/L 376-4984 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:27:28 on 92/07/07 GMT (by WALKERPB at HOUVMSCC) Subject: Print Screen Text only from OS/2 (or Dos) Command Windows Ref: Append at 16:09:11 on 92/07/07 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) You got me...it is a Catch-22! I only wanted the full-screen so as to be able to easily do a text only print screen! I can't print (except the black graphics)in a window, and I can't switch to a full-screen to be able to print from there.My real object is to be able to print my screen---whether full screen or not! Will whoever out there takes "wishes" add this to the list?? Appended: 11:27:22 CDT 7 Jul 1992 by Paul Walker TL:260-3189 WALKERPB at HOUVMSCC Performance & Capacity Planning ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:44:40 on 92/07/07 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Subject: Serial Device Support Ref: Append at 15:49:16 on 92/07/06 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) They're already aware of the problem (that's where I got my answer). Brent Allen - IBM OS/2 Base Services Support ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:51:43 on 92/07/07 GMT (by MCHAPMAN at DAYVM2) Subject: Modem compatibity for BBS Ref: Append at 18:28:11 on 92/06/11 GMT (by ITTL74 at OS2CUST) >>I was wondering if someone from IBM could tell me what kind of modem's using for your BBS? The reason being that we have a BBS (Multi-Net) an are having some modem compatibilty problems. Some of our users have so Chuck: The IBM NSC BBS (404-835-6600) runs Multi-Net as well, with a combination of Hayes Ultra 9600s, USR Dual-Standards, and IBM V.32s. Each set is on its own ring-group and can be dialed directly by someone with a matching modem, or the main number (above) can be called for the next available modem accessing any of the above mdoems. Oh, yes, I almost forgot the Hayes Smart Modem V9600s (V.42). They too have their own ring group. All seem to be running fine and I haven't heard of any compatibility problems once they got the startup bugs worked out. You might want to contact Wyn Easton, the BBS SysOp, about the setup if you have any questions. (T/L 269-6446) I don't know the details. (Please let's not have everyone in the world calling Wyn, OK?, just if you are running Multi-Net.) I hope this helps. Good luck. Mark Chapman, Advisory Marketing Supp. Rep, IBM NDD Nat'l Support Center, Atlanta ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:58:15 on 92/07/07 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Print Screen Text only from OS/2 (or Dos) Command Windows Ref: Append at 16:27:28 on 92/07/07 GMT (by WALKERPB at HOUVMSCC) You can write a small monitor program what works with a hot-key (How about Shift+PrintScr ?) and sends your characters from the window to the default PRN. Its less than 100 C lines. Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 18:04:40 on 92/07/07 GMT (by MCHAPMAN at DAYVM2) Subject: What?, No More CSDs! Ref: Append at 15:03:46 on 92/06/19 GMT (by Z77JAC at BETASVM2) >>Onward - There are a few fixes available now on IBM internal disks whic are freely distributable to licensed customers. (The implications of th are not totally worked out, so don't immediately ask where you can download them. The only official source at the moment seems to be your account rep.) Anyway, the idea is to make the fixes which will be in Jerry: These fixes are currently available on the IBM NSC BBS (404-835- 6600). They are sent to us by the same man who uploads them to the internal tools disks, so they are "official". They have been there since about the time of your append. I hope this helps. Good luck. Mark Chapman, Advisory Marketing Supp. Rep, IBM NDD Nat'l Support Center, Atlanta ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 18:58:43 on 92/07/07 GMT (by BRETT at RALVM5) Subject: Print Screen Text only from OS/2 (or Dos) Command Windows Ref: Append at 16:27:28 on 92/07/07 GMT (by WALKERPB at HOUVMSCC) It's not quite as easy as what you want, but you could Mark the entire window and then Copy it to the clip board. Then you can paste the text into your favorite editor and print it. Will this solve your problem? Brett King, IBM Raleigh ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 21:38:34 on 92/07/07 GMT (by USBC238 at OS2CUST) Subject: Lines too long in CONFIG.SYS? Ref: Append at 14:47:00 on 92/07/07 GMT (by WALKERPB at HOUVMSCC) The LIBPATH, PATH, and DPATH are limited to 260 characters (minus the characters LIBPATH=, PATH=, or DPATH=). This limit has caused our shop to change the locations of quite a few of our files. Good luck. Charles Boyce - US Bank, Portland OR ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 23:10:43 on 92/07/07 GMT (by ADUNSMUI at TOROLAB6) Subject: Lines too long in CONFIG.SYS? Ref: Append at 21:38:34 on 92/07/07 GMT (by USBC238 at OS2CUST) I believe you are mistaken. For OS/2 V2, the limit is > 1024 chars (apparently the real limit is somewhere around 4k). That is not to say that all programs can handle paths of this size: aside from some of the older 16 bit C runtimes being unable to handle > 128 characters for the argv/argc and getenv, many editors are limited to 256 character lines. By the way, editing CONFIG.SYS is about the only task for which I use the System Editor instead of EPM. That's not to say I enjoy it... but it does work. Al Dunsmuir - Appended at 7:04:00 PM EDT on 92/07/07 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 05:14:33 on 92/07/08 GMT (by WZ00511 at OS2CUST) Subject: System Configuration Utility Requirement Ref: Append at 14:54:33 on 92/07/06 GMT (by PNWB016 at HONE85) Wayne! I second the motion for making QSystem available. But until it gets posted on this BBS (I don't have download capability yet!), where can my SE find it on the internal network? Brad Bueche NationsBank EUC/Hotline Support Norfolk, VA ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 05:22:12 on 92/07/08 GMT (by WZ00511 at OS2CUST) Subject: System Configuration Utility Requirement Ref: Append at 19:33:15 on 92/07/06 GMT (by WHITE at BETVTVM1) I've seen these applets mentioned several times in different forums. Is there an append somewhere that lists all these applets on the ES disk and explains what each of them does? If this append doesn't exist, could some one who has all of that info post an append? Thanks in advance. Brad Bueche NationsBank EUC/Hotline Support Norfolk, VA ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 05:40:04 on 92/07/08 GMT (by RMERGLER at HOUVMSCC) Subject: System Configuration Utility Requirement Ref: Append at 05:14:33 on 92/07/08 GMT (by WZ00511 at OS2CUST) The IBM Internal version of QSYSTEM is available to your SE on the OS2TOOLS disk. With the proper effort, your SE may be able to provide it to you. Ralph Mergler (just another OS/2 user working on the Space Program) ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 10:22:24 on 92/07/08 GMT (by IL26761 at OS2CUST) Subject: System Configuration Utility Requirement Ref: Append at 05:22:12 on 92/07/08 GMT (by WZ00511 at OS2CUST) Brad, 1 of the manuals that comes with ES has many of the applets documented, or at least gives a brief outline of what they do. I will see if I can find it when I get to work today and post the title later. Of course someone will probably beat me to it. Jack Hiatt MARC-Life Atlanta Ga. P*hxft68a ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 11:22:36 on 92/07/08 GMT (by WZ00511 at OS2CUST) Subject: Speeding up WINOS2 Ref: Append at 01:59:39 on 92/07/07 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Ellliot, Thanks for the tip! I didnt know the Cobb group had a publication on OS/2. I'm going to order mine today. By the way, the Cobb Group's number is 1-800-223-8720. (I have a subscription for their Windows version, but its only very seldom that that publication tells me something that I don't already know.....I do Windows as well as OS/2 support...It looks like the OS/2 version may offer more). Thanks! Brad Bueche NationsBank EUC/Hotline Support Norfolk, VA ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 11:26:26 on 92/07/08 GMT (by ANGORE at RALVM0) Subject: MODE Settings for a high speed modem I have a V.32bis, V.42bis modem which I run with a comm port speed of 38.4kbps with connects usually at 14.4kpbs. The comm port does have a 16550 buffered uart. What should the mode options be for this set for in the dos sessions? I had been getting 1600-1700 cps downloads with plain dos, now I am seeing 900-1000 cps when run under OS/2 in a dos session. Al ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 11:34:25 on 92/07/08 GMT (by WZ00511 at OS2CUST) Subject: Speeding up WINOS2 Ref: Append at 12:42:58 on 92/07/07 GMT (by TJBARRO at CHGVMIC1) Timothy, Forgive me for re-stating the obvious, but are you saying that, for instance if I load the winclock and then want to start say a seamless Word 2.0 session that the system will default to using the Dos/Win session that has already been started for the winclock? If this is correct, then I'm assuming that if I clicked on the "Separate Session" button in the Session settings (in the notebook) then this default action would be over-ridden and that Word 2.0 would start up yet another session. Am I correct? Brad Bueche NationsBank EUC/Hotline Support Norfolk, VA ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 13:02:12 on 92/07/08 GMT (by BRETT at RALVM5) Subject: Speeding up WINOS2 Ref: Append at 11:34:25 on 92/07/08 GMT (by WZ00511 at OS2CUST) Yes, you are correct. A separate session will be started. Brett King, IBM Raleigh ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 13:46:33 on 92/07/08 GMT (by WOAN at AUSVM6) Subject: MODE Settings for a high speed modem Ref: Append at 11:26:26 on 92/07/08 GMT (by ANGORE at RALVM0) You might try: mode com1: buffer=auto or mode com1: buffer=on Ron, WOAN AT AUSTIN ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 14:13:20 on 92/07/08 GMT (by GARRISON at AUSVM1) Subject: System Configuration Utility Requirement Ref: Append at 05:22:12 on 92/07/08 GMT (by WZ00511 at OS2CUST) Brad, The following "applets" are shipped with ES. The applets are stored as .ZIP files on ES diskette #1, and installation and usage instructions can be found in the ES for OS/2 Productivity Aids book (G96F-8313), shipped with ES. To summarize: PCPRINT - A tool that facilitates the printing of host material on your PC printer. It makes it very easy to print host documents, screens, Profs notes, etc. without leaving 3270 emulation. ALMCOPY - A fast and flexible file transfer program. Supports wild-cards when specifying the files to be transferred. Support is for VM only. TOGGLE - Provides an enhanced hot-key facility for 3270 emulation. See the book for details. SNAPDUMP- Often used as a problem determination tool, this set of programs can be used to: o Collect a large number of files, named shared segments, standard output from programs, environment info and contents of the system trace buffer into a single, easily transportable file. The data and files to be collected are all user specified. o View the data within this file, or export the data back into its original file format. o Includes QMC.EXE (aka qsystem). CMAPL - Provides the ability to display and print the APL characters which are sent from the host, and the ability to enter APL characters from the keyboard (for CM 3270 emulation sessions). EXPLAIN - An ES Database Manager planning/performance tool. Hope this helps. Mike Garrison ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 14:21:18 on 92/07/08 GMT (by USBC238 at OS2CUST) Subject: Cursor display Is there a way to stop the cursor from blinking in an os/2 window? I wold like to get a solid cursor if possible. Charles Boyce - US Bank, Portland OR ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 14:33:10 on 92/07/08 GMT (by USBC238 at OS2CUST) Subject: Lines too long in CONFIG.SYS? Ref: Append at 23:10:43 on 92/07/07 GMT (by ADUNSMUI at TOROLAB6) The on-line documentation states that the length of the path can be up to five characters less than the number of characters on the command line. My Os/2 2.0 system can only support 260 characters on the command line. Any more characters than that gets a SYS1065: The input line is too long. Help sys1065 says "the line exceeds 128 characters, or the command is grater than 80 characters in length. Action: shorten the line of the input line." If I make the command line 260 characters or less, it is accepted. What is with the conflicting information? Charles Boyce - US Bank, Portland OR ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 14:44:08 on 92/07/08 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Subject: System Configuration Utility Requirement Ref: Append at 05:22:12 on 92/07/08 GMT (by WZ00511 at OS2CUST) The following description of the ES applets comes from the IBM Salesmanual: EXTENDED SERVICES PRODUCTIVITY AIDS Seven Productivity Aids are shipped with Extended Services to supplement and enhance usability. Included are print and file transfer units, a keyboard utility, a problem determination tool, APL support and a database performance optimization tool. o PCPRINT supports printing to one or more PC printers with a wide selection of printers, queues, drivers and fonts. Printing may be from PC, VM or MVS/TSO files with many pagination options. o ALMCOPY supports uploading and downloading files between a PC and a 370 VM host. It has facilities such as wild card naming to enhance performance, particularly with multiple file transfers. o TOGGLE provides additional keyboard and mouse support to facilitate control of and navigation between 3270 sessions. o SNAPDUMP is a set of tools designed to facilitate problem determination. It collects data from multiple sources including errors and traces, packages it for review and has options for forwarding the data to other service points. o CMAPL provides support for host APL under a 3270 session. APL characters may be input from the keyboard or received from the host and displayed and printed. o HOST PRINTING via PRINTER DEFINITION TABLES provides additional function and control for 3270 printing. It enables "rotate" facility and enhances performance for many printers. o EXPLAIN provides the database programmer with a tool to help analyze SQL statements and optimize performance of database applications. Brent Allen - IBM OS/2 Base Services Support ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 18:14:28 on 92/07/08 GMT (by MCHAPMAN at DAYVM2) Subject: OS/2 2.0 Tips and Techniques Version 2.0 Ref: Append at 20:50:10 on 92/06/25 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) Tracy: Perhaps you have your reasons for not doing so, but just in case you weren't aware, the OS2TNT file is also available in an online .INF format, so that you can find information quickly using keyword searches. That way you don't have to worry about using page numbers to locate the info. And, if necessary, some or all of the book can be printed (but you don't get any page numbers). I hope this helps. Good luck. Mark Chapman, Advisory Marketing Supp Rep, IBM NDD Nat'l Support Center, Atlanta ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 18:33:40 on 92/07/08 GMT (by MCHAPMAN at DAYVM2) Subject: OS/2 2.0 Tips and Techniques Version 2.0 Ref: Append at 02:31:47 on 92/06/27 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) >Brent, a similar situation exists for the text file with PS2 Assistant. >PS2ASST.TXT - it is clear and very helpful. However, when you lift >the icon and drop it on the printer icon and click on plain text, >the first page gets printed and there are only 2 lines on the 2nd page. >I assume my 4019 emulates a proprinter when it does plain text. Are >there some "page eject" commands hidden in such a file? Or have such >text files been designed to user a smaller font than the system default? Elliott: As the author of the PS/2 Assistant I can answer your question. The PS2ASSt.TXT file is nothing more than an ASCII text file with a form feed (ASCII 12) inserted where appropriate to get nearly a full page with out interrupting a paragraph (just to make it a bit more readable), whenever possible. The last time I printed it it worked fine on my 4019, but perhaps a added some lines and neglected to move the form feeds since the last time I printed it. I'll take another look and see if I need to fix it. If you want/need to, it's a simple matter to open the file with a text editor (two are supplied with OS/2) and either move or remove the form feeds. You can even read it into a word processor and "jazz" it up with fonts, etc. and then print from the wp program. I hope this answers your question. Good luck. Mark Chapman, Advisory Marketing Supp Rep, IBM NDD Nat'l Support Center, Atlanta ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 18:35:13 on 92/07/08 GMT (by TKP at RHQVM14) Subject: WINOS2 Performance Ref: Append at 18:14:28 on 92/07/08 GMT (by MCHAPMAN at DAYVM2) To everyone who responded to my question about the performance of WINOS2- many thanks. By putting the windows clock into the start up folder, I am able to cut down the time required to start up any other windows program from about 2 minutes to 30 seconds. Still long, but much better than before. This trick has one problem though- If I start and then exit a Windows programs, the program icon remains cross-hatched, suggesting that WINOS2 is still running the program. As soon as I kill the clock, the program icon reverts to its normal unhatched appearence. Why does this happen? What should I do to ensure that the program is truly closed upon exiting it? Thanks in advance- Tom Philips ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 19:07:07 on 92/07/08 GMT (by MCHAPMAN at DAYVM2) Subject: OS/2 2.0 Tips and Techniques Version 2.0 Ref: Append at 02:31:47 on 92/06/27 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Elliott: OK, all taken care of for the next edition. Thanks for the feedback. Take care. Mark Chapman, Advisory Marketing Supp Rep, IBM NDD Nat'l Support Center, Atlanta ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 19:09:49 on 92/07/08 GMT (by XXMINC08 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Lines too long in CONFIG.SYS? Ref: Append at 14:33:10 on 92/07/08 GMT (by USBC238 at OS2CUST) Charles, Just a guess, but this might solve your conflict. If you enter a line such as PATH=%PATH%c:\somethine;d:\util\another then the line is much less than 260 characters long, but can expand into something much longer. I have used this technique with normal environment variables to get values upto about 1024. I have not tried it with the PATH environment variable but expect it would work. Bill Nelson Manulife Financial ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 19:30:15 on 92/07/08 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 2.0 Tips and Techniques Version 2.0 Ref: Append at 18:14:28 on 92/07/08 GMT (by MCHAPMAN at DAYVM2) Mark, The OS2TNT seemed like something I would like to read (at least once) to get a good idea of what kind of information it contains. After that, the online version would probably be better. I've tried to print parts of the online information off before, but have been to successful getting the layers of information that I needed. I need to spend more time trying this feature. Tracy Pipkin, Amoco Production Company - Houston, TX, (713) 596-7720 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 20:05:58 on 92/07/08 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: OS/2 2.0 Tips and Techniques Version 2.0 Ref: Append at 18:33:40 on 92/07/08 GMT (by MCHAPMAN at DAYVM2) Mark, good to see you here! Would it be possible to notify IBM Canada about the new versions of PS/2 Assistant every two months? Maybe they would update the downloadable file area. Keep up the good work! Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 21:48:20 on 92/07/08 GMT (by THRUMD at SYDVM1) Subject: WINOS2 Performance Ref: Append at 18:35:13 on 92/07/08 GMT (by TKP at RHQVM14) There are known problems with the WPS getting confused about seamless windows apps running in the same WINOS2 VDM. Sometimes it does not recognise when the app is closed, and sometimes when you click on the hashed icon of an active program you will restore a different application in that WINOS2 session. Selecting the application from the Window List always selects the right application, though. Dave ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 04:42:22 on 92/07/09 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Speeding up WINOS2 Ref: Append at 11:22:36 on 92/07/08 GMT (by WZ00511 at OS2CUST) Brad, just as an aside - although Wayne and others think we have a better deal here in Canada on the IBMLINK (mentioned in another IConf) most of the time 800 numbers that work in the US, don't work from Canada! I spend a good bit on real long distance calls to many software houses (and publishers) on the West Coast! IBM is one of the few computer related organizations that have 800 numbers that work in Canada - for which we are most appreciative. Nevertheless - thanks for the number!, Elliott M. Avedon University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1 (519) 885-1211 x2204 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 04:49:44 on 92/07/09 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Subject: OS/2 2.0 Tips and Techniques Version 2.0 Ref: Append at 18:33:40 on 92/07/08 GMT (by MCHAPMAN at DAYVM2) Much thanks. When I download the next edition(?), I'll remember to edit out the FFs before I print. I understand there will be periodic updates to the file. Elliott M. Avedon University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1 (519) 885-1211 x2204 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 12:53:27 on 92/07/09 GMT (by TJBARRO at CHGVMIC1) Subject: Speeding up WINOS2 Ref: Append at 11:34:25 on 92/07/08 GMT (by WZ00511 at OS2CUST) Brad: You are correct. The Separate Session check box determines whether a Windows application will run in a separate WIN-OS/2 sesssion (MVDM) or not. If you are running a high data integrity application, I would check the box (i.e. Personal Commmunications/3270). If you are running Solitaire, Clock, etc., I would run them in the same session (leave it unchecked). Timothy J. Barron IBM Workstation Systems Engineer TJBARRO at CHGVMIC1 Chicago Insurance Branch 098 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 12:59:05 on 92/07/09 GMT (by TJBARRO at CHGVMIC1) Subject: WINOS2 Performance Ref: Append at 21:48:20 on 92/07/08 GMT (by THRUMD at SYDVM1) An object remaining "hashed" can also be attributed to the known bug with SWAPPER.DAT. I would *HIGHLY* recommend trying the new replacement for the kernel (the OS2KRNL/OS2KRN.ZIP fix). Timothy J. Barron IBM Workstation Systems Engineer TJBARRO at CHGVMIC1 Chicago Insurance Branch 098 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 14:47:01 on 92/07/09 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8) Subject: Print Screen Text only from OS/2 (or Dos) Command Windows Ref: Append at 16:27:28 on 92/07/07 GMT (by WALKERPB at HOUVMSCC) There is a solution (kinda) to the "black" print screen given in a recent append to the OS2PRINT forum on the BBS. Stephen Poole OS/2 Service and Support - IBM Austin, TX ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:06:46 on 92/07/09 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8) Subject: Can't Download DLLs Ref: Append at 19:25:35 on 92/06/24 GMT (by IL03484 at OS2CUST) Tom, Sorry it took so long to respond..... Most of the Support Line (800-237-5511) folks know of this BBS but not much of the details. They really won't be much help in most BBS problems. For problems with the BBS or connecting to it, call the IIN/IBMLink Help Desk at 800-727-2222. They have been trained on assisting BBS users. If they can't help you with your download problem they will route your PMR to the BBS support group in Austin. One other option is to use the "IBM Support" option on the main menu and create a BBS Problem Report on your download problem. You will get a response within one day, probably within hours. Stephen Poole OS/2 Service and Support - IBM Austin, TX ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:11:27 on 92/07/09 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8) Subject: HOW TO DOWNLOAD WITH PMTERMINAL Ref: Append at 12:27:05 on 92/07/07 GMT (by IL89769 at OS2CUST) Joe, I don't believe PMTERMINAL can be used to download from this BBS through an Asynchronous connection. What are the other emulators you have tried? Do you have INPCS or PCOM? These will download if you set it up right. We can either continue to try to solve this in this forum or if you prefer, call the IIN/IBMLink Help Desk at 800-727-2222 for assistance. Stephen Poole OS/2 Service and Support - IBM Austin, TX ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 04:42:07 on 92/07/10 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) Subject: Lines too long in CONFIG.SYS? Ref: Append at 19:09:49 on 92/07/08 GMT (by XXMINC08 at TORVMCOP) This (variable replacement) will not work for environment variables defined in CONFIG.SYS. It will work from command lines, but only for single sessions (not system-wide). Nathan Davis ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:31:47 on 92/07/10 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST) Subject: WINOS2 Performance Ref: Append at 12:59:05 on 92/07/09 GMT (by TJBARRO at CHGVMIC1) I have read this thread on WINOS/2 (the WinShield!) and performance with great interest. However, I don't consider the "preload" of WinOS2 to be a performance booster. Upon load, my swapper.dat zooms up about 4mb and stays that way. I have the new OS2KRN fix and will give this a try tosee if it addresses the problem. Second, the clipboard interaction is horribly slow (a cut and paste from seamless Word 2.0 is a painful experience.) The preload does not help you here. Third, I seem to encounter (50% chance) a "forgotten" session - the WinApps don't always seem to be "really" closed. This manifests itself at ShutDown when Word or some other App prompts me with a Close dialog box. Fourth, memory allocation seems to be unpredicatable. After running for awhile,the App seems to Speed Up. This could be due to higher page allocation to the heavy active app, but I doubt it. I imagine these are known "splatterings on the WinShield" but they have led to our common practice of "skipping out on OS2" and usingthe Boot manager to start a Win3.1 session. Obviously, not better Windows than Windows. In short, fustration with WinShieldbut not OS/2. If I don't load a WinApp - OS/2 hums along just fine (WPS is still sluggish - and unpredicatable). Overall, WinOS2 has a long way to go to be considered truly usable. On the other hand, recent issues of the Microsoft System Journal have been the cause for much humor as they address how WinNT will have to do the SAME THING! <Grin!> Emulation always <for lack of a better descriptor> sucks. WinOS2 only confirms that axiom. Dan Lundy - Time Customer Service, Inc. Tampa, Fl ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:24:42 on 92/07/10 GMT (by HHSD012 at OS2CUST) Subject: Microcadam (PLUS) on OS/2 2.0 We are having trouble getting MicroCadam (Plus) to run on OS/2 2.0. I was wondering if anybody had any luck with getting past the "Cannot init OS" message that it gives when trying to start it. Thanks Nick Gardiner HHSD012 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:32:25 on 92/07/10 GMT (by KUSTERER at MANVM1) Subject: Microcadam (PLUS) on OS/2 2.0 Ref: Append at 16:24:42 on 92/07/10 GMT (by HHSD012 at OS2CUST) Nick, I think your problem is that MICRO CADAM PLUS still uses VCPI to access extended memory rather than using DPMI. OS/2 2.0 cannot support VCPI applications. I know this is true for the versions of PLUS that we use. I haven't heard if/when PLUS will switch to using DPMI, sorry. Joe Kusterer ----- TEAM OS/2 Northern VA ----- FSC Manassas ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 17:31:27 on 92/07/10 GMT (by TJBARRO at CHGVMIC1) Subject: WINOS2 Performance Ref: Append at 15:31:47 on 92/07/10 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST) Dan: The "forgotten" session which you describe is exactly what the new OS/2 kernel should fix. The bug goes as follows, let's say that I had two applications up, now I close them so that nothing is running, the objects may still be shaded even though they aren't running. This is because the swapper has not released them from memory, nor the swap file on the hard drive. Furthermore, if I now did a shutdown (note that nothing is running) upon rebooting the applications may come back up again, which they shouldn't. Applying the fix should resolve this. For windows performance, you should try increasing the DPMI Memory Limit parameter to something like 8MB, especially if you are running multiple windows applications in the same WIN-OS/2 session. I found this helped me with PageMaker performance. Timothy J. Barron IBM Workstation Systems Engineer TJBARRO at CHGVMIC1 Chicago Insurance Branch 098 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 21:47:53 on 92/07/10 GMT (by WZ00602 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 2.0 COM3 Problem I have an AT bus machine with the following cards: SVGA card SCSI controller I/O card with 1 serial port (COM2) and one parallel port (LPT1) Stacker AT/16 card Zoom v.32 internal modem set at COM1 Zoom v.23 internal fax modem set at COM3 using IRQ5 Sound Blaster using IRQ7 I have altered my CONFIG.SYS as follows: DEVICE=C:\OS2\COM.SYS (3,03E8,5) \OS2\COM.SYS (3,03E8,5) During OS/2 load, I receive the message: COM3 not installed. Interrupt level is not available. What can I do? Brent, San Francisco ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 01:07:50 on 92/07/11 GMT (by IL87026 at OS2CUST) Subject: remote control program for os/2 1.3 or 2.0 does anybody knows of a remote control program for os/2 1.3 or 2.0...something similar to DOS's PCAnywhere type...thank you. Simon Lee, Kaiser Hospitals-Hawaii ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 03:42:07 on 92/07/11 GMT (by THRUMD at SYDVM1) Subject: WINOS2 Performance Ref: Append at 15:31:47 on 92/07/10 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST) Re clipboard performance: If you are only going to use cut/paste between windows apps in the same session, you can restore performance by turning off the OS2-WINOS2 clipboard interface. The following Q&A explain why clipboard performance can be slower than native windows and what you may be able to do to get around this. Dave ------------------------------------------------------------------- The followings are Q and A for Clipboard and DDE use. 1. Q: If I want to use clipboard and DDE only inside one Winos2 session, how can I use the system more efficiently. A: Remove !Clipwos2 and !ddeagent in system.ini file in os2\mdos\winos2 directory. They are given 3 times each and you have to remove all of them. After you create the first Winos2 session (seamless or full screen session), check the shell task list and close Data Update and Clipbrd sessions. 2. Q: I have 3 sessions of Winos2 and I want to share data by Clipboard and DDE only between 2 sessions. How can I use system more efficiently? A: After the Winos2 session is initiated there are Clipboard and DDE Interchange Agent icons. Click those icons and close them in the Winos2 session that you do not want to share data. 3. Q: I want to share data only between Winos2 sessions, not with PM session. How can I use the system more efficiently? A: After one Winos2 session is created, check the shell task list and close Data Update and Clipbrd sessions. 4. Q: After I copy data to clipboard in PM session and then create the Winos2 session. I can not paste data from clipboard in Winos2 session. What's wrong? A: Nothing wrong. Create the Winos2 session first before you copy data to PM clipboard. The Winos2 session will initiate the PM clipboard which will propagate the data to Winos2 clipboard. This problem will be fixed in future release. 5. Q: I created an icon using Icon Editor from the Productivity folder and copied the icon to clipboard. In Winos2 session, I used the Microsoft Paintbrush and I could not paste the icon from clipboard. Why? A: First you have to have the Winos2 session first (Refer item 4 above). When the icon is created by Icon Editor, it has DIB (device independent bitmap) format. However some Windows applications can NOT understand the DIB format and the paste menu item is given in gray (paste is not available). You still can see the icon in clipboard window. 6. Q: When I use Windows application to copy data to clipboard, it is very slow. Is there any way to speed it up? A: First let me explain the delayed rendering scheme of clipboard. Lots of Windows application use delayed rendering scheme when they copy data to clipboard. The delayed rendering is used to give only the format name to clipboard, and actual data is rendered only when the paste menu item is selected by an application. However, to share data between Winos2 and PM sessions, the Winos2 clipboard gets all data from clipboard owner (owner is the application which copies data to clipboard) and then propagate the data to other sessions. This work takes time and your work is delayed. You have to decide whether to share data bewteen Winos2 sessions. If not, use private clipboard by Option menu item in Winos2 clipbrd. However, if you want to share some of data between sessions via clipboard, use Export and Import menu items. 7: Q: I want to use DDE via Paste Link menu item. Is there any restriction using the Paste Link menu item? A: To use the menu item, the clipboard program should be running as public. You can check the Options menu item and the check mark should be given already. To initiate the hot DDE link, the client and server must negotiate the data format. If this negotiation fails, some applications do not give any error message and no further action is taken. If so, try any other nemu item options like Link if it is available in the application. For simplicity's sake, use of CF_TEXT format for data exchange is recommended. 8. Q: When I want to run DDE between VDM's, I received "DDE time expired" message. What does it mean? A: When the DDE_INITIATE message is broadcasted, the client waits some period of time to receive the acknowledgement. If system load is very high, the DDE_INITIATE message propagation may be slowed down and DDE_ACK response may not be returned within the preset time. If so, give more time in your application. If you are using an application where you can not change the time, then reduce system load and try again. If you have small memory or small swap disk space, then they should be increased. 9. Q: I have several applications running concurrently and each application does COPY/PASTE from clipboard. Sometimes I paste unexpected data from clipboard. Why? A: When application 1 copies data to clipboard to paste it later and while it is doing other work, the other application copies data to clipboard. Later the application pastes data from clipboard, the data is copied form other application, not from application 1. This can be a problem if you run several application concurrently. This problem can be extended to several Winos2 sessions running concurrently with public clipboard. Miscellenous Information: Clipboard: When an application copies several data to public clipboard in different formats and if any one of data gives rendering problem, no data will be propagated to other Winos2 sessions. There is a plan to modify this feature so that only the data with problem is not propagated in the public clipboard. The DDE and Clipboard icons will not be given in Seamless work. In this case an user does NOT have any control over any options of the Clipboard. If you want to use private clipboard in Seamless session, remove the !Clipwos2 in system.ini file. In PM clipboard program, vertical scrolling does not work. This will be fixed in future release. The metafiles in Winos2 and PM are not compatible. When a metafile data is copied to public clipboard without bitmap or DIB format data in Winos2 session, the metafile is converted into bitmap and propagated to other Winos2 sessions. When metafile is copied to PM clipboard and it is converted into bitmap, the image of metafile is enlarged and only center of the image is given in clipboard window. This will be fixed in future release. DDE: For the sake of speed, it is strongly recommended to keep only one server or client in one Winos2 session. The DDE will be given as an icon (DDE Interchange Agent) and will stay as an icon. No user option is available. If you have XGA or 8514 display tube, keep the DDE server as an icon instead of full (or regular) size window. Also, set VIDEO_SWITCH_NOTIFICATION setting ON. ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 04:08:07 on 92/07/11 GMT (by WOAN at AUSVM6) Subject: remote control program for os/2 1.3 or 2.0 Ref: Append at 01:07:50 on 92/07/11 GMT (by IL87026 at OS2CUST) I believe the shareware PMCOMM communications program contains ahost mode that may do what you want. Also the makers of HyperAccess are reportedly working a full featured remote usage program... Ron, WOAN AT AUSTIN ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 18:24:18 on 92/07/11 GMT (by WZ00511 at OS2CUST) Subject: remote control program for os/2 1.3 or 2.0 Ref: Append at 04:08:07 on 92/07/11 GMT (by WOAN at AUSVM6) Ron, HyperAccess is also reportedly working on a 32 bit OS/2 2.0 specific version of HyperAccess....any word on this? Brad Bueche NationsBank EUC/Hotline Support Norfolk, VA ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 00:08:34 on 92/07/12 GMT (by WOAN at AUSVM6) Subject: remote control program for os/2 1.3 or 2.0 Ref: Append at 18:24:18 on 92/07/11 GMT (by WZ00511 at OS2CUST) Accoding to customers, it is already out, I believe. Contact them directly for details. If you can't find their number, let me know and I'll try to scrounge it up. Ron, WOAN AT AUSTIN ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 13:37:28 on 92/07/13 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST) Subject: WINOS2 Performance Ref: Append at 03:42:07 on 92/07/11 GMT (by THRUMD at SYDVM1) Special thanks to Dave and Timothy -- I will give your (detailed and informative!) suggestions a try. Thanks for the shared insight! Dan Lundy Time Customer Service, Inc. Tampa, Fl ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 14:01:26 on 92/07/13 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) Subject: M$ SQL Server Has anyone got a Windoze program to access a M$ SQL Server under OS/2 2.0? We are trying to access a SQL database from a Visual Basic program. I've heard that this is not possible at this time! However, I can't find any reference to this limitation in any document (include OS2TNT version 2). The only reference to anything similar is the SQLWINDOWS 3.0 problem. Any help is greatly appreciated. Tracy Pipkin, Amoco Production Company - Houston, TX, (713) 596-7720 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 14:54:39 on 92/07/13 GMT (by TJBARRO at CHGVMIC1) Subject: remote control program for os/2 1.3 or 2.0 Ref: Append at 00:08:34 on 92/07/12 GMT (by WOAN at AUSVM6) The name of the OS/2 2.0 product from Hilgraeve is Kopy Kat, and is not out yet. They have been at the 1992 IBM Personal Systems Forums showing alpha code of Kopy Kat. Timothy J. Barron TEAM IBM Workstation Systems Engineer TJBARRO at CHGVMIC1 OS/2 Chicago Insurance Branch 098 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:53:36 on 92/07/13 GMT (by X019347 at OS2CUST) Subject: How do I turn off the Desktops auto program start. What is the command that I put in my config.sys that will turn off the option that restarts all running applications??? Jim Grant ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:49:59 on 92/07/13 GMT (by KEHN at CARVM3) ..... OS2QANDA CFORUM modified at 20:28:20 on 92/07/13 GMT (by KEHN at CARVM3) Subject: How do I turn off the Desktops auto program start. Ref: Append at 15:53:36 on 92/07/13 GMT (by X019347 at OS2CUST) <<oops, wrong variable, thanks Bill>> Try adding one of the SETs below to your CONFIG.SYS: SET RESTARTOBJECTS=YES - restart all objects (default). SET RESTARTOBJECTS=NO - do not restart any objects. SET RESTARTOBJECTS=STARTUPFOLDERSONLY - only start objects in startup folders. SET RESTARTOBJECTS=REBOOTONLY - only start objects after a reboot Dan Kehn ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 19:52:40 on 92/07/13 GMT (by XXMINC08 at TORVMCOP) Subject: How do I turn off the Desktops auto program start. Ref: Append at 15:53:36 on 92/07/13 GMT (by X019347 at OS2CUST) Jim, SET RESTARTOBJECTS=STARTUPFOLDERSONLY this should do the trick for you. Bill Nelson Manulife Financial ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 19:57:41 on 92/07/13 GMT (by NATI083 at OS2CUST) Subject: WHOAMI.PAC I have downloaded WHOAMI.PAC from the OS/2 Tools directory. What do I do with it now? I tried UNPACK, got a SYS1217 error message. My UNPACK.EXE is the 12/12/90 version that came with my OS/2 1.3. I also tried to UNZIP it, and that failed also. Steve Tippett Nationwide Insurance ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 20:22:23 on 92/07/13 GMT (by BCHI040 at OS2CUST) Subject: Slow boot on HPFS When booting OS2 and having the SWAP file on a HPFS drive my PS2 Model 80 can take several minutes to boot. Then I change the SWAP file to a FAT drive and th e system boots in under a minute. Has anyone else ever experienced this sort of problem. System config is M-80 12Mb Ram 300Mg SCSI drive. Jerry Hittle, Hawaii Medical Service Ass'n ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 20:28:33 on 92/07/13 GMT (by NAAN43X at OS2CUST) Subject: PMX Server under OS2 2.0and TCPIP 1.2.1 I am having some problems with X-Windows under TCPIP 1.2.1 accessing AIX X CLients. 1. When accessing the SMIT menus on AIX via an X-Window, clicking the mouse ptr into certain data entry fields and then trying to type into them doesn't let you do this. Is there some remapping of the 2-button vs the 3 button mouse that causes this type of problem. Peter Bourboulis, Chemical Bank ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 21:26:29 on 92/07/13 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8) Subject: WHOAMI.PAC Ref: Append at 19:57:41 on 92/07/13 GMT (by NATI083 at OS2CUST) Steve, These files were packed with the OS/2 2.0 PACK command and need to be UNPACKed with OS/2 2.0. PKZIP will not work. The 1.3 version of UNPACK is not compatible. Most of the software in the OS/2 BBS download library is for OS/2 2.0, some for 2.0 only. Any thoughts about going to 2.0? Otherwise we may be able to figure some way to get a 1.3 version to you. Stephen Poole OS/2 Service and Support - IBM Austin, TX ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 21:30:14 on 92/07/13 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8) Subject: PMX Server under OS2 2.0and TCPIP 1.2.1 Ref: Append at 20:28:33 on 92/07/13 GMT (by NAAN43X at OS2CUST) Peter, You'll have a much better chance of getting your answer if you post this question in the new OS2TCPIP forum. It is on the second panel of BBS topics, second from the bottom. Both IBM TCP/IP support, development, and the Watson Lab research folks watch the OS2TCPIP forum closely. I'll bet they can help you. Stephen Poole OS/2 Service and Support - IBM Austin, TX ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 22:05:09 on 92/07/13 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) Subject: How do I turn off the Desktops auto program start. Ref: Append at 16:49:59 on 92/07/13 GMT (by KEHN at CARVM3) Remember that RESTARTOBJECTS is undocumented and could change (or disappear or become supported) in a later release. Nathan Davis ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 22:09:37 on 92/07/13 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) Subject: Slow boot on HPFS Ref: Append at 20:22:23 on 92/07/13 GMT (by BCHI040 at OS2CUST) How full are the drives (HPFS and FAT) and how deeply nested are the directories you used for the swap file? My boot time seemed to go down when I moved SWAPPATH from \OS2\SYSTEM to \SWAP. Same disk (HPFS), but SWAPPER.DAT is now the only thing in the directory. Nathan Davis ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 12:16:35 on 92/07/14 GMT (by TJBARRO at CHGVMIC1) Subject: Slow boot on HPFS Ref: Append at 20:22:23 on 92/07/13 GMT (by BCHI040 at OS2CUST) Jerry: I'm sorry, but I do have to ask this as my first question: Are you doing a Shutdown before powering-off your system? Just asking... Timothy J. Barron TEAM Workstation Systems Engineer TJBARRO at CHGVMIC1 OS/2 Chicago Insurance Branch 098 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 14:14:45 on 92/07/14 GMT (by SSIA013 at OS2CUST) Subject: remote control program for os/2 1.3 or 2.0 Ref: Append at 14:54:39 on 92/07/13 GMT (by TJBARRO at CHGVMIC1) Wow, I just ran into a same type problem! IRQ 5 is not available because LPT2 is configured for it. You Soundblaster card hasn't run into any problems because I bet you haven't used it when you where trying to print something at the same time (IRQ7 is allocated to LPT7). You have several options -- first, try to configure your COM3 (the CARD also) to use IRQ2 (I have a network card on IRQ2 so I have a bit more of a delema) Second you can see if your COM port can be configured for IRQ9 or above (this would require a 16 bit type of I/O card). Third, you can "piggy back" COM3 on COM1, the problem here is that you can't use COM3 and COM1 at the same time (only one "address" can be on the IRQ at one time). Lastly, "go IBM" and get yourself a MicroChannel machine. MCA has been designed to share IRQ's (amoung other benefits). I have work on both ISA and MCA, and MCA *DOES* have it's benefits!! Paul Kurr -- Stockholder Systems, Norcross GA ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 18:36:27 on 92/07/14 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Subject: WHOAMI.PAC Ref: Append at 21:26:29 on 92/07/13 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8) The WHOAMI package has now been converted to a Zip file to make it more compatible on systems other than 2.0. If you download the package again, you should be able to use PKUNZIP. I hope that helps.... Brent Allen - IBM OS/2 Base Services Support ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:35:15 on 92/07/15 GMT (by DALNK03 at OS2CUST) Subject: How do I turn off the Desktops auto program start. Ref: Append at 16:49:59 on 92/07/13 GMT (by KEHN at CARVM3) Does anyone know which file contains the information about what programs were running when you last shutdown? Is it saved to the OS2.INI file? Pat Malneritch, Delta Air Lines ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:54:56 on 92/07/15 GMT (by SAAL0A8 at OS2CUST) Subject: Attachmate for Windows on OS/2 - loses connections. I'm trying to get Attachmate for Windows to work on OS/2. It works fine for a while, then loses the connection to the mainframe. The 3270 board is an Attachmate 3270 Adapter/2. The PC is a 486/50. I tried running it in an Win/OS2 session and it works for a while & then EXTRA! loses the connection. Anybody else got this to work or have any ideas? Thanks. Tom Jacobson ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 17:06:17 on 92/07/15 GMT (by KEHN at CARVM3) Subject: How do I turn off the Desktops auto program start. Ref: Append at 16:35:15 on 92/07/15 GMT (by DALNK03 at OS2CUST) Yes, it is saved in OS2.INI, under application "WorkPlace:Restart" and key "Objects". You didn't mention why you asked, but I should point out that the format of most entries in the OS2.INI are not public and are subject to change (as they did between LA and GA). Dan Kehn ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 18:39:27 on 92/07/15 GMT (by XXMINC08 at TORVMCOP) Subject: How do I turn off the Desktops auto program start. Ref: Append at 16:35:15 on 92/07/15 GMT (by DALNK03 at OS2CUST) Pat, I am just guessing here, but I suspect that you're right that the workplace shell keeps the information in OS2.INI. I did a dump of my OS2.INI and there is an application name of PM_WorkPlace:Restart and one of PM_WorkPlace:Startup. I have been trying to find documentation on the kind of stuff in OS2.INI, but so far I have just been digging around by hand. Bill Nelson Manulife Financial ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 18:52:28 on 92/07/15 GMT (by CHVY002 at OS2CUST) Subject: PS/2 Microchannel to Mainframe Connection The recent announcement of the microchannel to mainframe connection for the PS/2 is very interesting and might even be one of the better announcements I've seen but it does have it's draw backs. Why is it that Netware is mentioned heavily? Why is it that all of us that happen to be MVS/XA our out of luck. This feature could be a real asset but it seems that if you aren't Netware or MVS/ESA your out of luck. Isn't there a way to make all of this work with LAN Server 2.0 and MVS/XA? John Zawistowski Systems Prog, Chevy Chase FSB ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 00:57:46 on 92/07/16 GMT (by IL26761 at OS2CUST) Subject: PS/2 Microchannel to Mainframe Connection Ref: Append at 18:52:28 on 92/07/15 GMT (by CHVY002 at OS2CUST) There was an earlier version of that announcement that was an RPQ, and that would be accessible from MVS/XA, and from the reading I did on the latest announcement it is still available from XA. IT would look like a 3420-3480 tape unit, you would just have to be careful with unit names to make sure you had good control over what might get allocated to it. Jack Hiatt MARC-Life Atlanta Ga. ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:01:01 on 92/07/16 GMT (by IL77475 at OS2CUST) Subject: new fileserver & colors i am getting ready to purchase an new fileserver and would like to have this one be an OS/2 2.0 fileserver. my confusion lies on the base operating system do i use 1.3 with es 1.0 and ls 1.0 or do i use os/2 2.0 with es 1.0 and ls 1.0 ?????? this would be the entry version not the advanced version. my next question is a 1.3 user would like to change the colors in the os/2 and dos full screens, can this be done and how??? thank you. Brett Taylor ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:12:56 on 92/07/16 GMT (by DALNK03 at OS2CUST) ..... OS2QANDA CFORUM modified at 18:10:29 on 92/07/16 GMT (by DALNK03 at OS2CUST) Subject: new fileserver & colors Ref: Append at 15:01:01 on 92/07/16 GMT (by IL77475 at OS2CUST) One way to change the colors of the DOS box and the OS2 windows is to create a cmd (os2) and bat (dos) file with the ANSI escape sequences. You need to add the line DEVICE=C:\OS2\ANSI.SYS in the config.sys in order for this to work in the DOS box. Here is a sample file called cyan.bat and cyan.cmd that changes the prompt to a white drive/directory, red > prompt, and cyan everything else. @echo off prompt ì1;37;40m $pì31m$gì36m cls (The escape char (ASCII 27) should precede each of the ì characters above) ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 18:06:35 on 92/07/16 GMT (by NAAO3IY at OS2CUST) Subject: new fileserver & colors Ref: Append at 15:01:01 on 92/07/16 GMT (by IL77475 at OS2CUST) The Entry version works with either 2.0 or 1.3. The Advanced version works only with 1.3 today, but IBM has already demonstrated it under 2.0, so I dare say it will be available by year's end or so. 2.0 takes a bit more RAM to run efficiently, but once it has that RAM, it runs faster than 1.3. There are some wobbly places yet in 2.0, but it should be stable enough when used as a server -- most of the problems are in the user-interface area. I don't know of any way to change the full-screen colors _except_ that any program can. It's essentially the same situation as DOS in that regard. ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 22:02:22 on 92/07/16 GMT (by TKP at RHQVM14) Subject: 5 1/4 ich floppy drive Ref: Append at 18:06:35 on 92/07/16 GMT (by NAAO3IY at OS2CUST) Before I go on with this append, let me thank all the people who helped me solve my last problem with Windows performance. Now onwards and forwards. I have an IBM 5 1/4 inch external floppy drive that I wish to use with my model 95 running OS/2. I have a controller card and the DOS device driver for the drive. The system works flawlessly under DOS. How can I migrate this to OS2? Do I have to get a new device driver? If so, where can I find one? And what modifications do I have to make to my CONFIG.SYS to make this work? Thanks in advance. Tom Philips ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:34:06 on 92/07/17 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Subject: 5 1/4 ich floppy drive Ref: Append at 22:02:22 on 92/07/16 GMT (by TKP at RHQVM14) If you're refering to the IBM external 5.25" floppy, OS/2 does use a different device driver than DOS. I can't remember the exact file name at the momemt (I use it at home), but I think it is EXT5DD.SYS and is located on the option diskette that comes with the drive. If 2.0 is installed on your C: drive, all you have to do is put the diskette in A:, then run Device Driver Install located in the System Setup container. It will copy the driver to your C: drive and modify Config.Sys for you. If you're not booting OS/2 from C:, you'll either need to modify the .DDP file to point to the correct drive or manually copy the driver and edit Config.Sys. Brent Allen - IBM OS/2 Base Services Support ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 20:13:22 on 92/07/17 GMT (by BCHI040 at OS2CUST) Subject: Slow boot on HPFS Ref: Append at 12:16:35 on 92/07/14 GMT (by TJBARRO at CHGVMIC1) Yes, I do shutdown upon exiting when possible. I have noticed that when I have had to reboot because of system lockup it was noticably slower on the following boot. But my original question was that having the swap file on a FAT partition seemed to boot faster than a SWAP file on a HPFS partition. I currently have a 25MB FAT partition reserved for the SWAP file which resides in the Root Directory. Jerry Hittle, Hawaii Medical Service Ass'n ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 18:07:53 on 92/07/18 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8) Subject: Slow boot on HPFS Ref: Append at 20:13:22 on 92/07/17 GMT (by BCHI040 at OS2CUST) Jerry, Have you tried installing the OS/2 KERNEL fix available in the Software Library on this OS/2 BBS? My guess is this may solve many problems with performance for you. Stephen Poole OS/2 Service and Support - IBM Austin, TX ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 03:34:15 on 92/07/19 GMT (by IL22993 at OS2CUST) Subject: Latest fixes Just wanted to let people know that I have installed the latest fixes made avai able over the past several days, and now my machine is experiencing hangs durin the WPS startup. Eventual Ctl-Esc can crash the WPS, and it restarts, and on one ocassion I got a system halt I had been running OK with the latest kernel fixes. I added the black icon fix the HPFS.IFS fix, and the latest REXX DLLs, so I suspect one of those fixes. I'll try to back things off to identify the problem area. It has been failing every other boot-up so I should be able to narrow it down a little. Has anyone else experienced any problems similar to this? Hang occurs after startup.cmd opens its window, but before the WPS actually opens the desktop object (white screen, no icons appear, and never see the animation of the opening desktop) George Clark, Norton Company ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 23:52:08 on 92/07/19 GMT (by IL22993 at OS2CUST) Subject: Latest fixes Ref: Append at 03:34:15 on 92/07/19 GMT (by IL22993 at OS2CUST) More details on hang after latest fixes... I installed the fixes on another workstation today. (OS2KRNL, REXX20, BLKICO, HPFS, PMSPL). The same thing happened during the first reboot of the system... I ctrl-C out of startup.CMD. Desktop started, disk activity stopped. After a while, Ctl-ESC resulted in "OS/2 2.0 Desktop" is not responding. The system never recovered, and a 3 finger salute brought the system right up with no problems. I have re-booted it 3 or 4 more times and it has not failed since, and my own workstation is also now booting ok. There is nothing here that I can really report formally ... Has anyone else had any startup problems with the latest fixes? Thanks... George Clark, Norton Company ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 14:45:15 on 92/07/20 GMT (by SAMI3QU at OS2CUST) Subject: Latest fixes Ref: Append at 03:34:15 on 92/07/19 GMT (by IL22993 at OS2CUST) George, I have had the "WPS hanging during startup" problem on 2 different machines for some time now (pre-dating the fixes you mentioned). On one system, the problem started after replacing 8 1-meg SIMMs with 4 4-meg SIMMS. I still have the problem on that machine. I can't think of anything in particular that triggered the problem on the other machine. My desktop had a lot of icons on it and the problem disappeared on the second machine after reducing the number of icons. Reducing the number of icons on the desktop on the first machine has had no effect. I even tried a different set of SIMMs, but no change. I also tried enabling various wait states on the machine but, again, no change. Try reducing the number of icons on your desktop and keep your fingers crossed. Mark Thompson - Coal Services Corp. St. Louis, MO ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 17:19:53 on 92/07/20 GMT (by TJBARRO at CHGVMIC1) Subject: Slow boot on HPFS Ref: Append at 18:07:53 on 92/07/18 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8) In addition, there is an HPFS fix (HPFS.IFS).... ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 18:54:42 on 92/07/20 GMT (by TKP at RHQVM14) Subject: External 5 1/4 inch drive Ref: Append at 17:19:53 on 92/07/20 GMT (by TJBARRO at CHGVMIC1) I tried putting the card for the IBM external 5 1/4" drive into my model 95 and had a problem- the system would not even boot. Try boot up with the reference diskette in the 3 1/2" floppy- still no luck. Has anyone else had a similar experience? Thanks in advance. Tom Philips ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 18:59:01 on 92/07/20 GMT (by TKP at RHQVM14) Subject: Extended Services Ref: Append at 17:19:53 on 92/07/20 GMT (by TJBARRO at CHGVMIC1) I have just installed extended services so as to be able to access the host. Works very well, with 3 exceptions. 1.The enter key does not work- I have to hit the control key 2.The escape key has been mapped to the pause key. 3.No support for APL. How can I fix these problems? Thanks in advance. Tom Philips ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 19:27:07 on 92/07/20 GMT (by BRYAN at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Extended Services Ref: Append at 18:59:01 on 92/07/20 GMT (by TKP at RHQVM14) #1, #2 The keyboard mappings you see are the defaults. The mapping of ENTER, for example, is very comforting to those of us dating back to "real" host connected displays. <grin> To change the keyboard mappings to those of your choice, just double click on the COMMUNICATIONS MANAGER icon, click on ADVANCED, click on KEYBOARD REMAP. #3 Check the PRODUCTIVITY AIDS Book that came with Extended Services. It contains full instructions on running APL from Extended Services. Look for CMAPL. Barry Bryan ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 21:11:14 on 92/07/20 GMT (by AAEE1AN at OS2CUST) ..... OS2QANDA CFORUM modified at 14:46:01 on 92/07/21 GMT (by AAEE1AN at OS2CUST) Subject: Allocation error on boot-up This APPEND was deleted at 10:46:00 on 07/21/92 EST. ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 21:18:36 on 92/07/20 GMT (by AAEE1AN at OS2CUST) ..... OS2QANDA CFORUM modified at 14:46:21 on 92/07/21 GMT (by AAEE1AN at OS2CUST) Subject: Allocation error on boot-up This APPEND was deleted at 10:46:20 on 07/21/92 EST. ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 11:27:15 on 92/07/21 GMT (by ARNOLDHF at FSHVMFK1) Subject: External 5 1/4 inch drive Ref: Append at 18:54:42 on 92/07/20 GMT (by TKP at RHQVM14) I installed the 5 1/4" adapter (the one for the 360K/1.2M drives) and experienced no problem. I'd change the slot and then call 1-800-IBM-SERV if it still doesn't boot. Hank Arnold ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 11:33:40 on 92/07/21 GMT (by SBOA8M4 at OS2CUST) Subject: Response to Problems I opened a problem through the BBS to report problems with the Postscript printer driver. An IBM rep dutifully 'listened', asked for additional info., and finally turned it over to 'development' as PMR 5X977, 916. How do I find out more about this problem, if anything is being done, or if additional questions are being asked? The original problem I opened via the BBS has not been updated since 6/25/92, when 'IBM Support' notified me of the open PMR. Where do I go for more info? My local IBM team cannot see this problem either (yes, we do have a large system here with direct IIN IBMLINKage). Any help will be appreciated! Dave Nagy, Talbots, Tampa, FL ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 12:13:40 on 92/07/21 GMT (by IL57213 at MARTLINK) Subject: Background Screens Where can I get additional Background Scenes for the OS/2 Desktop, is there a vendor designing them or can they be gotten from IBM ? il57213 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 13:10:28 on 92/07/21 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Background Screens Ref: Append at 12:13:40 on 92/07/21 GMT (by IL57213 at MARTLINK) I released a set from IBM Intenally and Externally. These are the names BGABMAPS 1.01 92/03/29 BGA bitmaps for OS/2 2.0 VGABMPS 1.01 92/03/29 OS/2 2.0 extra Bitmaps for VGA systems BGA1BMPS ZIPBIN * BALLOONS, BARN, CHATEAU, CITY BGA2BMPS ZIPBIN * FISH, SWAN, WAVE, YARN VGABMPS ZIPBIN * BALLOONS, CHATEAU, FISH, SWAN, YARN We did NOT want to put them on the distribution diskettes so we put them up for D/L'ing. I put them on CIS, and I guess I was not connected with the BBS's too well at that time. These are NOT small files. Brent, Steve, you can make them available here, I have already sent them to Brent. Irv Spalten BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 14:13:54 on 92/07/21 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) Subject: Background Screens Ref: Append at 13:10:28 on 92/07/21 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Will these be on the anonymous FTP site as well...? Thanks. Lionel Dyck - Rockwell International, Information Systems Center ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 14:19:40 on 92/07/21 GMT (by AYP1Q01 at OS2CUST) Subject: How do I turn off the Desktops auto program start. Ref: Append at 16:35:15 on 92/07/15 GMT (by DALNK03 at OS2CUST) Pat, It has been "documented" before in this BBS, if not officially at least effectively, that the way to prevent programs from restarting is to place a line in your CONFIG.SYS: SET RESTARTOBJECTS=STARTUPFOLDERSONLY With this option, only programs in your startup folder will be started up. The default value, YES, will allow anything that was running when you shut down to restart. The only other value, NO, will prevent anything in your startup folder from starting. I understand that this has no effect, however, on a STARTUP.CMD in the root directory, although I've never had one there to test. Presumably it will start up regardless of the setting of RESTARTOBJECTS. Another way to prevent anything (!) from starting up is to wait for the appearance of the mouse cursor when the screen first goes to graphic mode at boot-up, then press and hold Ctrl-Shift-F1. If your hard drive stops, release the keys for a moment, then press and hold them again. This will bring up a clean desktop and nothing at all should start up. Steve Bassler, Allegheny Power ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 14:21:46 on 92/07/21 GMT (by AAEE1AN at OS2CUST) Subject: Automated recovery from application abend possible? One of our PS/2 machines runs a pair of coprocesses: (a) get radar data from a remote site; (b) log onto TSO and ship the data to MVS for use by TSO types. The end result is that TSO users on our 3090 can type "WEATHER" and get a pretty radar map of the weather across the state. This application is used for scheduling construction work (don't pour concrete when it's about to rain), ice and snow clearance (don't put the guys on overtime unless the radar shows significant precip. headed their way), and so forth. It is also *HEAVILY* used by everyone else around the state who has access to our domain. The coprocesses are written in C, and every now and again one will go belly-up for one reason or another, mostly related to quality of compiler-generated code. I am dealing with the quality issue elsewhere, and don't need to go into that here. Nonetheless, when one or another of the coprocesses dies, and the radar map isn't being updated for the MVS users, there is a quite significant increase in calls to the HelpDesk here. Is there some relatively nontrivial way to catch a system error in an appl., kill the appl., log the vital statistics somewhere, and restart the appl.? Right now we get a PM box showing IC, regs, and flags, and have to lay hands on the keyboard to acknowledge termination. Automating this would be ever so much nicer. Thanks in advance for the ideas. Mike Andrews, Okla. Dept. of Transportation (405) 521-4197 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 14:34:34 on 92/07/21 GMT (by AAEE1AN at OS2CUST) Subject: Response to Problems Ref: Append at 11:33:40 on 92/07/21 GMT (by SBOA8M4 at OS2CUST) You can use the ETR application of IBMLink to view any of your problems; you need only the problem number and B/O number, and you have both. Get into ETR, and use the "VIEW A SPECIFIC PMR" option - I think it's 2. Fill in the blanks with the problem number and B/O number, and bash <ENTER>. If it doesn't show, then you should call Level 1 to find out what's up. If it *DOES* show, you have the option of converting it to an ELECTRONIC PMR, which you can update, print, close, reopen, etc. If you don't have ETR, then you can ask Level 1 to print the PMR and mail it. Your local IBMers should be able to do this for you, too, and their inablity makes me wonder if the PMR number you have is right. Your IBMers (and/or Level 1) can check this, too. I (and the techies working for me) routinely build ETRs electronically, and we converted all our non-electronic PMRs to electronic ones when we first got IBMLink. It is grand. Hope this helps. Mike Andrews, Okla. Dept. of Transportation (405) 521-4197 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:11:56 on 92/07/21 GMT (by IL26761 at OS2CUST) Subject: Background Screens Ref: Append at 12:13:40 on 92/07/21 GMT (by IL57213 at MARTLINK) There are a number of files available on various BBSes around the country that contain .BMP that can be used for backgrounds, including one set that has some very nice scenic countrysides, and another that contains for the football fans out the the helmets of most of the NFL teams. The person that has created this set has a name and number in a txt file with it and will apparently create ones for folks that don't have the time or the scanning equiptment to do so. Jack Hiatt MARC-Life Atlanta Ga. ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:27:59 on 92/07/21 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Background Screens Ref: Append at 14:13:54 on 92/07/21 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) Hmmm, not there either, OK I'll send them there too! Irv Spalten BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:38:32 on 92/07/21 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) Subject: Background Screens Ref: Append at 16:27:59 on 92/07/21 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Thanks for the VERY prompt response. Lionel Dyck - Rockwell International, Information Systems Center ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:41:06 on 92/07/21 GMT (by OCANUC at BETASVM2) Subject: Automated recovery from application abend possible? Ref: Append at 14:21:46 on 92/07/21 GMT (by AAEE1AN at OS2CUST) You might want to look into the OS/2 Technical Library Programming Guide volume 1, chapter 13, Exception Management. Basically, you can register and exception handler with the system for many types of exceptions. Brandon Booth Advanced Programming - ICSRS ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 17:25:35 on 92/07/21 GMT (by AAEE1AN at OS2CUST) Subject: Automated recovery from application abend possible? Ref: Append at 16:41:06 on 92/07/21 GMT (by OCANUC at BETASVM2) Thank you for the quick response. I will point this out to my developers. Mike Andrews, Okla. Dept. of Transportation (405) 521-4197 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 18:43:18 on 92/07/21 GMT (by NAAO3IY at OS2CUST) Subject: Extended Services Ref: Append at 18:59:01 on 92/07/20 GMT (by TKP at RHQVM14) It is normal for the right control key to be used as the 3270 Enter key, because the right control key is where the Enter key on a real 3270 key is, because 3270s do not have Control keys, and so that you have a 3270 Newline key. I'm not sure what you mean about Esc and Pause. Both of these keys are PC keys and have nothing to do with 3270. Perhaps you mean that the 3270 Clear key is mapped to the PC Pause key? Again, that's normal; the Esc key is used for the 3270 Attn. key (used only in SNA connections). You can remap the keys if you like, from the Communications Manager. You have to install the 3270 APL support. It is documented in the "Extended Services Productivity Aids" manual. John Kennedy -- Hoechst Celanese, Bridgewater, NJ ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 18:53:16 on 92/07/21 GMT (by NAAO3IY at OS2CUST) ..... OS2QANDA CFORUM modified at 18:55:05 on 92/07/21 GMT (by NAAO3IY at OS2CUST) Subject: Automated recovery from application abend possible? This APPEND was deleted at 14:55:04 on 07/21/92 EST. ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 19:22:04 on 92/07/21 GMT (by NAAO3IY at OS2CUST) Subject: External 5 1/4 inch drive Ref: Append at 18:54:42 on 92/07/20 GMT (by TKP at RHQVM14) Some models of the 95 do not support some 5.25" drives. EXACTLY what 95 do you have, and if you've upgraded the processor, give both the original and what you have now. EXACTLY what 5.25" drive are you using, and EXACTLY what adapter? John Kennedy -- Hoechst Celanese, Bridgewater, NJ ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 19:42:16 on 92/07/21 GMT (by TJBARRO at CHGVMIC1) Subject: Extended Services Ref: Append at 18:43:18 on 92/07/21 GMT (by NAAO3IY at OS2CUST) Remapping the keyboard is the obvious choice....By the way, in order to ease transition from 3270 terminal devices, the PS/2 models 56/57 have a special optional keyboard called a Host Connected Keyboard. The key layout is very similar to a terminal. It has 24 PF keys, a carriage return key, and an enter key. Timothy J. Barron TEAM IBM Workstation Systems Engineer TJBARRO at CHGVMIC1 OS/2 Chicago Insurance Branch 098 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 00:44:37 on 92/07/22 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Subject: Background Screens Ref: Append at 13:10:28 on 92/07/21 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) The bitmaps are now available here for download. They're in the OS/2 Tools section (#4) of the Software Library. Brent Allen - IBM OS/2 Base Services Support ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 01:51:43 on 92/07/22 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Background Screens Ref: Append at 13:10:28 on 92/07/21 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Irv, can you also release a set to Norval (OS2CAN IConf) who seems to be the thoughtful IBMer in Toronto who has been updating the ESDTools Disk and responding to some of our LINK concerns? Thanks. Elliott M. Avedon University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1 (519) 885-1211 x2204 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 11:17:42 on 92/07/22 GMT (by SBOA8M4 at OS2CUST) Subject: Response to Problems Ref: Append at 14:34:34 on 92/07/21 GMT (by AAEE1AN at OS2CUST) Thanks for taking time to answer my frustration. I already tried looking at the PMR in the way you described - I even had my IBM SE looking over my shoulder watching the system tell me the problem was not to be found anywhere. I'll try the level 1 route. Again, thanks!! Dave Nagy, Talbots, Tampa, FL ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 12:28:14 on 92/07/22 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Background Screens Ref: Append at 01:51:43 on 92/07/22 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Elliott, I do not know who they are? I send my files to Denis Tong, who has the Canadian equivalent of this board. In any case, all internal IBM'ers can get them from OS2TOOLS. Rather than have me send them to everyone, and in some cases get the recipients confused as they think it was new files, and then people download them again, how about asking the SYSOP of the board to either contact me to ask for them or get them from OS2TOOLS. I looked in my log, and I don't seem to have a log entry for sending them to anyone, but I might have done it under another ID. Irv Spalten BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 12:34:38 on 92/07/22 GMT (by AAEE1AN at OS2CUST) Subject: Response to Problems Ref: Append at 11:17:42 on 92/07/22 GMT (by SBOA8M4 at OS2CUST) As usual, I suggested the obvious. Sorry. Your OSS (or any OSS on your B/O) should be able to see all PMRs for your account; perhaps your SE can, as well. It appears that that may be the only way to locate this wayward PMR. I wonder if you were given a bad PMR number, or if there was some error in creation of the PMR: system crash, software glitch (no, IBM never has bugs!), etc. If the PMR definitely can not be located, then you should open a new one (I think). Aside from that, I'm fresh out of ideas. Best of luck! Mike Andrews, Okla. Dept. of Transportation (405) 521-4197 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 14:59:56 on 92/07/22 GMT (by TCC3961 at OS2CUST) Subject: Losing Icons Ok...I've been using OS/2 2.0 from early release code to now and I'm starting to get frustrated, not with many things, but one thing in particular, losing icons. Is IBM looking at this? Is there a fix I don't know about yet? With base OS/2, extended services, lan server, and then my own groups installed, it is VERY frustrating to lose entire folders full of icons. I know how to get the initial base desktop back, but that doesn't get me back the icons from extended services, lan server, or other software. I store up a copy of all my INI files whenever OS/2 boots, so I can restore the last version if something weird happens. This helps quite a bit, but when you look in a folder that you haven't used for weeks and all the icons are gone, there is not much you can do about it. Would someone please let me know where this problems stands? I do know that this is the major reason 2.0 has not been used throughout the rest of the company. Craig ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:53:38 on 92/07/22 GMT (by EJDIAMO at NYCVMIC1) Subject: Response to Problems Ref: Append at 12:34:38 on 92/07/22 GMT (by AAEE1AN at OS2CUST) I had no problem at all viewing your problem on RETAIN (IBM's problem management database). Suggest to your SE or OSS the following RETAIN "PMS" command: R 5X977,916 Problems that are created on the BBS are assigned a "pseudo" customer number when they enter the problem management system. However, IBMLINK (I assume) only allows you visibility to problems with your own specific customer number. This would explain why you can't see it now. Here's how to get a problem record that you can track on IBMLINK: (my gut says it will be easier to get this done via voice as opposed to electronically...) 1. Call 800-237-5511 2. Open a new problem record under your own customer number (Operating system = OS/2, component = PRINT (I think) ). 3. Request that the information from your existing problem ( 5X977,916 ) be copied into the new one. This is a new capability as of May 10th, so most RETAIN users may be unfamiliar with it. (I just found out about it today!). They can get more info by entering the following RETAIN command: N;RTA/NEWS then enter 80 to view item# 80... the instructions start on the 2nd page of the item. There is a good chance that the person who opens your new problem for you will NOT have the authority to copy the old problem, so you may have to wait for a callback. 4. Close the old problem. 5. Request a status update on the new problem. Sounds pretty gory, but I think it will work OK. :-) Eric Diamond System Engineer EJDIAMO at NYCVMIC1 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:34:08 on 92/07/22 GMT (by AAEE1AN at OS2CUST) Subject: Response to Problems Ref: Append at 11:17:42 on 92/07/22 GMT (by SBOA8M4 at OS2CUST) I asked my OSS to research this, and he came up with the same answer that EDJIAMO (?) just posted. I hope you get some action on this. Mike Andrews, Okla. Dept. of Transportation (405) 521-4197 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 19:04:22 on 92/07/22 GMT (by NAAO3IY at OS2CUST) Subject: Extended Services Ref: Append at 19:42:16 on 92/07/21 GMT (by TJBARRO at CHGVMIC1) Alas, although the special 3270 keyboard is sold, OS/2 Communications Manager doesn't support it. Neither, as far as I know, does OS/2 itself. John Kennedy -- Hoechst Celanese, Bridgewater, NJ ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 23:14:50 on 92/07/22 GMT (by WZ00511 at OS2CUST) Subject: New PMHPO When is the new PMHPO going to be released? What are the new capalities that it is going to have? Or, is the PFTERM supposed to be the new PMHPO? Whats the deal? Brad Bueche NationsBank EUC/Hotline Support Norfolk, VA ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 00:30:27 on 92/07/23 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST) Subject: New PMHPO Ref: Append at 23:14:50 on 92/07/22 GMT (by WZ00511 at OS2CUST) I don't know the answer to your question, but I've been told by the OS/2 BBS usage group that we are not to be charged the hourly fee until the "new" and complete PMHPO application is sent out. It seems only fair as we (OS/2 custome rs) cannot download, or do offline message composition easily without this. The contract that we signed for this BBS stated that the required software would be received within 10 days of getting the order. That was over two months ago! The current PMHPO was sent out to only about 300 people - so that is why there are so few "OS2CUST" folks out here - it was (guess what) BUGGY. I did recieve an invoice for our June usage and I promptly called the billing information number and relayed the above information. We will not authorize payment until IBM's end of the contract is upheld - and I suggest that others do the same. This should provide the incentive to actually get it out the door this month (been told that twice - two separate months). Chris Knoell (MGH) ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 12:35:18 on 92/07/23 GMT (by AAEE1AN at OS2CUST) Subject: New PMHPO Ref: Append at 00:30:27 on 92/07/23 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST) Chris, I certainly understand and appreciate your viewpoint on the contract. It is painfully obvious that IBM committed itself to a ship date that was too early. What to do as a remedy is a different question, though. Would you have them ship another piece of code out the door before it's ready, or would you prefer to wait until it's really stable and usable? Those are the two options I can see at this point. Other vendors have a "not good, but Wednesday" policy, and some of my friends at one **MAJOR** non-IBM operating system development site have had their code shipped out from under them at noon on the deadline day, usable or not. As it happened, the code was not in a usable state when it was shipped, and there was the devil to pay and no pitch hot. There will be bugs in anything that goes out the door - the IEFBR14 module in MVS (a 1-instruction "return to caller" subroutine) has had 3 APARS against it! The key, I think, is to coordinate marketing and development so that the bugs are (mostly) removed in alpha and beta test, before the product goes to GAmma test (to us, that is). I would rather wait a bit. Meanwhile, on the matter of the contract, hold their feet to the fire! Ask the marketing type if the words "specific performance" mean anything to him. Good luck. Mike Andrews, Okla. Dept. of Transportation (405) 521-4197 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 13:44:58 on 92/07/23 GMT (by SAMI3QU at OS2CUST) Subject: Losing Icons Ref: Append at 14:59:56 on 92/07/22 GMT (by TCC3961 at OS2CUST) Craig, Are you using HPFS? There is a HPFS.ZIP fix in the Software Library on this BBS that corrects a CHKDSK problem. On one of the other forums it has been indicated that lots of weird problems are corrected with this fix. Mark Thompson - Coal Services Corp. St. Louis, MO ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 13:50:54 on 92/07/23 GMT (by SAMI3QU at OS2CUST) Subject: New PMHPO Ref: Append at 12:35:18 on 92/07/23 GMT (by AAEE1AN at OS2CUST) Will the new version of PMHPO be available for download on this BBS? If not, will existing INPCS-HPO customers be able to obtain PMHPO? Mark Thompson - Coal Services Corp. St. Louis, MO ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 14:49:15 on 92/07/23 GMT (by TCC3961 at OS2CUST) Subject: Losing Icons Ref: Append at 13:44:58 on 92/07/23 GMT (by SAMI3QU at OS2CUST) I am using HPFS on one drive and have downloaded the fix, but I don't believe I have applied it yet. The icons I am losing are not on the HPFS drive, but I'll try it out and see what happens! Thanx. Craig ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:11:48 on 92/07/23 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 Fixes via ServiceLink - Why NOT ? Why are the OS/2 fixes that can be found here, on CompuServe, etc. not available for ordering via ESD on ServiceLink....? That is the vehicle for delivery of fixes for all other IBM products and that is where one can submit problems and track APARs. Lionel Dyck - Rockwell International, Information Systems Center ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:29:30 on 92/07/23 GMT (by GARRISON at AUSVM1) Subject: Extended Services Ref: Append at 19:04:22 on 92/07/22 GMT (by NAAO3IY at OS2CUST) John, All is not lost. Contact your SE and have him/her send the following information to LDUBOIS at AUSVM1: o Version and CSD level of the OS/2 CM that you are using (eg. EE at CSD 5050 vs ES) o Your name o The name of your firm In this way, you should be able to get the info you need to use the 3270 keyboard. Anyone else interested in obtaining this information should take the same steps. Mike Garrison ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:59:29 on 92/07/23 GMT (by TJBARRO at CHGVMIC1) Subject: Losing Icons Ref: Append at 14:59:56 on 92/07/22 GMT (by TCC3961 at OS2CUST) Craig: The application of the OS2KRNL, BLKICO, and HPFS fixes should resolve your problems. OS2KNRL and HPFS address problems with the swap file not releasing memory and the BLKICO address disappearing icons. I hope this helps!! Timothy J. Barron TEAM IBM Workstation Systems Engineer TJBARRO at CHGVMIC1 OS/2 Chicago Insurance Branch 098 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:01:09 on 92/07/23 GMT (by TJBARRO at CHGVMIC1) Subject: Extended Services Ref: Append at 19:04:22 on 92/07/22 GMT (by NAAO3IY at OS2CUST) John: I will look into this...hopefully I will have an answer by tomorrow morning. Timothy J. Barron TEAM IBM Workstation Systems Engineer TJBARRO at CHGVMIC1 OS/2 Chicago Insurance Branch 098 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:31:11 on 92/07/23 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST) Subject: New PMHPO Ref: Append at 12:35:18 on 92/07/23 GMT (by AAEE1AN at OS2CUST) I think that many of us have been patient and understanding, but the support in general has been a major disappointment. I get the impression that it is totally uncoordinated - plenty of intelligent, hard working people but no infrastructure. For example, the phone support folks do not have any access to this BBS, the OS/2 BBS people(here) are not aware of the NSC BBS in Atlanta, problem reports are submitted with no resolution after months of my effort. It is the final insult that I don't have the software required to get the fixes re -quired for their buggy product - isn't it enough that we are paying for the chance that OS/2 will someday be functional. I am even begining to wonder if anyone at IBM reads these messages - there was much better response from Dave Booth and Mark Chapman on the NSC boards and they were just two people donating their time to answer at least as many messages as are posted here. I want OS/2 to succeed - I've invested quite a bit of time and effort at this point to give up, but in the meanwhile I must get some work done... Chris Knoell (MGH) ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:41:48 on 92/07/23 GMT (by Z77JAC at BETASVM2) Subject: OS/2 Fixes via ServiceLink - Why NOT ? Ref: Append at 15:11:48 on 92/07/23 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) Many things are different in OS2 2.0 from the way things are done in other products. There are many reasons for this, not the least of which is that BOCA is defining a whole new type of operation for IBM and is doing a lot of it by trial and error. A very different customer mix is being addressed and BOCA has to respond in new ways. (By the way, I am not part of the BOCA operation, just a TEAMOS2 observer trying to help from the sidelines.) For example, your question about fixes on ServiceLink - BOCA is trying to get fixes to the general public as soon as possible (sometimes before full testing is complete) and in a way that a non-corporate user can get access to them. Such a user seldom, if ever, has access to things like ServiceLink. None of this means that there is any less commitment to the standard types of product service that you folks are used to. It does, however, mean that there is a lot of 'heuristic' process modification going on and that the empowered folks in BOCA (like IRV) are willing to try almost anything to deal with this, for IBM, totally new type of customer. A lot of us within IBM are frustrated, too, with various things about OS2 2.0 but a new breed of executives, like John Soyring, in concert with lots of working level people like IRV, are in the process of redefining the way IBM behaves. Some of it doesn't work the first time or even the second time. Jerry Case, TEAMOS2, Bethesda, MD ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:53:25 on 92/07/23 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 Fixes via ServiceLink - Why NOT ? Ref: Append at 16:41:48 on 92/07/23 GMT (by Z77JAC at BETASVM2) Jerry, I LOVE the new IBM that I see providing us with QUALITY support for OS/2. What I want is to see the fixes distributed using the current support structure as well as the broader methods that the folks like Irv are working on. There are only a limited number of Technical Coordinators (typically 1 or 2 per location) with access to this BBS. But there are considerably more with access to IBMLink and thus with ServiceLink access who could take advantage of accessing fixes via that service. I know that I am able to distribute this information to a fair number of our users, but because of various issues (internal politics, etc.) there are limitations. ServiceLink also provides several nice features that make acquiring fixes that way more desireable. Such as Electronic delivery via e-mail or delivery by diskette without the requirement to spend time downloading. Lionel Dyck - Rockwell International, Information Systems Center ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 18:35:01 on 92/07/23 GMT (by AAEE1AN at OS2CUST) Subject: New PMHPO Ref: Append at 16:31:11 on 92/07/23 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST) I find myself agreeing in major part with you. We have been frustrated beyond description, and very nearly beyond endurance, by OS/2. It has been bug-riddled and unstable, OS/2 products we have been promised to do function long available in DOS have been delayed N times (and sometimes "dis-announced"), support has been essentially non-existant. In one celebrated case, we had a SEV-1 PMR open for 6 months without a callback, and only got one after the SSC Duty Manager called Boca and told them to get on a stick. I hold no brief for IBM, or for any vendor. Even so, I see them trying to make a good idea work. They have run full tilt into Brooks' Law: "Adding more people to a late software project makes it later." Even as I raise unmitigated Cain with them, I wish them well, because our enterprise will sink or swim with them. Mike Andrews, Okla. Dept. of Transportation (405) 521-4197 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 21:56:39 on 92/07/23 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST) Subject: New PMHPO Ref: Append at 18:35:01 on 92/07/23 GMT (by AAEE1AN at OS2CUST) I don't know if you have seen it on the other Forums here, but there is a bug in OS/2 that prevents it from working if the boot partition is HPFS and greater than 100 MB in size. This is on IBM machines - doesn't seem to be dependent on hard drive interface type. I question whether IBM actually tested this product at all or if that is our function now. I have yet to talk with an IBMer that uses HPFS - now I can see why. By the way it's only taken three months to go from a PMR to an APAR. I also have heard that IBM will NOT be distributing CSD's for OS/2 2.0. The claim is that there are too many problems with specific machines, and the fixes are specifically to solve these problems and are only test on the machines with the original reported problem. I don't know what will happen when we have literally hundreds of different permutations of OS/2 running - how can IBM support that if they are having such a tough time now. Somehow, I've been told to expect a "refresh" in the third quarter - probably in September - prior to Fall Comdex no doubt. Who knows what to do until then. Chris Knoell (MGH) ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 22:05:30 on 92/07/23 GMT (by IL22993 at OS2CUST) Subject: Losing Icons Ref: Append at 15:59:29 on 92/07/23 GMT (by TJBARRO at CHGVMIC1) Timothy: Be aware that a response we just got from a support request said that development had decided to withdraw the OS2KRNL fix due to some problems that it introduced (my paraphrasing!) For us, the symptom is that Lotus 3.1 for DOS will not run once the OS/2 kernel is applied. Back of the kernel and it works fine. (We were getting a DOS/16M: General Protection Fault). This was per Tehara Stern (sp?) I still have the fix applied to my workstation and it seems pretty stable, so it might be worth trying, but it sounds like it is not perfect yet. Since I applied it, PSTAT fails with at Trap 000D. Good luck... George Clark, Norton Company ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 22:14:09 on 92/07/23 GMT (by TJBARRO at CHGVMIC1) Subject: Losing Icons Ref: Append at 22:05:30 on 92/07/23 GMT (by IL22993 at OS2CUST) George: Thanks for sharing your findings....I'll see if I can find out anything more. Timothy J. Barron TEAM IBM Workstation Systems Engineer TJBARRO at CHGVMIC1 OS/2 Chicago Insurance Branch 098 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 22:32:22 on 92/07/23 GMT (by WZ00511 at OS2CUST) Subject: Losing Icons Ref: Append at 22:14:09 on 92/07/23 GMT (by TJBARRO at CHGVMIC1) Timothy, I have applied the kernel fix as well. After I read George's last append I tried to run Pstat as well and I got a SYS3175 (in the window) and when it dropped me back at the command prompt there was a SYS1811 and the Trap D error message in 2 lines at the prompt (I've never seen trap D dislplayed like that before). This is on a model 8590-OK9 with 16 megs and the HPFS, kernel, and mouse fix applied. Brad Bueche NationsBank EUC/Hotline Support Norfolk, VA ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 22:45:20 on 92/07/23 GMT (by WZ00511 at OS2CUST) Subject: New PMHPO Ref: Append at 21:56:39 on 92/07/23 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST) Just riding this thread, If there were only 300 copies of PMHPO shipped then why doesnt IBM just ship out the beta tests? You can be sure that, if only 300 were shipped, then all of the people who received it are OS/2 fanatics (like me!) and would be responsive beta testers. I still have not received a response as to dates and new capabilities. I also agree that OS/2 still seems to be in beta testing. I have not had many problems but apparently other people have had a GREAT many. Making excuses for all the changes going on in IBM may seem logical from an IBM'ers point of view. However, in a market where bending over backwards to serve the customer is the norm, IBM's internal problems are of absolutely no concern to the users in the pc market. IBM still seems to need to learn that it is a privelege (that you have to earn) to have a customer come calling on you AND NOT VICE VERSA <<== I know IBM is losing 10's of millions of dollars with our company because of this attitude. Brad Bueche NationsBank EUC/Hotline Support Norfolk, VA ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 22:53:15 on 92/07/23 GMT (by WZ00511 at OS2CUST) Subject: PC Configurator I've shown the PS/2 Configurator to a VP in purchasing and he is extremely interested in it. Is there a way to change the IBM part numbers to ComputerLand Part numbers? Also, we buy at a % above cost (for CLand) not a % off list...is there a way to change this? And is there a way to remove a line from a configuration (like if I decide I only want 1 1gig drive on that 95)? If we could get this, it would be a nice little treat from IBM AND I might be able to get more people on OS/2! Thanks in advance. Brad Bueche NationsBank EUC/Hotline Support Norfolk, VA ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 04:12:43 on 92/07/24 GMT (by NIKOROPO at SFOVMIC1) ..... OS2QANDA CFORUM modified at 14:37:28 on 92/07/24 GMT (by NIKOROPO at SFOVMIC1) Subject: PC Configurator Ref: Append at 22:53:15 on 92/07/23 GMT (by WZ00511 at OS2CUST) Brad, There is no way for you to change the part numbers as they are "compiled" into the systems.cfg file which is in binary. You can change the prices in the pccom.prc file which are the retail list prices. In addition, you can use a negative discount rate in the % off list pricing option to add a % to the list price. This way if you change the prices to Cland cost than you can apply a % about this amount. Each individual item in the configuration window can be selected (single click with mouse) and deleted (DEL key or "edit" then "delete"). The system selected (ie, 85950H5) is considered an individual item even though it has several lines associated with it. I also know that there is some talk going on between NationsBank in Dallas and IBM (Dallas) about this configurator. Neil Koropoff Northwestern Trading Area Seattle, WA ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 13:09:26 on 92/07/24 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Losing Icons Ref: Append at 22:05:30 on 92/07/23 GMT (by IL22993 at OS2CUST) The fix will not be withdrawn, it will be ALMOST impossible to do so. I have the fix (I am the distributor of fixes) on my system and PSTAT does work just fine on it. We had 'lost' the debug files for the kernel fix, so service is unable to properly work problems with the fix kernel. All they will tell you is to backup to the previous (GA kernel) and if it still fails there to report that. Hopefully, I will have a newer kernel, fully tested (we have a DPMI fix in one that is needed badly for C 7.0) that I can distribute soon and can be properly supported. Irv Spalten BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 13:26:14 on 92/07/24 GMT (by PERSHNG at YKTVMH) Subject: New PMHPO Ref: Append at 21:56:39 on 92/07/23 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST) A slight exaggeration. I'm an IBMer with large (315 Megs + 360 Megs) disks, both formatted as single HPFS partitions -- so, now you have heard from an IBMer who is using HPFS! The reported problem with >100 Meg HPFS partitions is primarily a problem with the INITIAL INSTALL taking a ridiculously long time (e.g., a couple of hours -- it seems to be exponential in the size of the disk). Once it is installed, OS/2 runs just fine on an HPFS disk (large or small), although the APAR mentions something about folders taking a few extra seconds to close if you are spinning a large HPFS partition (I haven't particularly noticed this slowness). I would presume that the developers in Boca and Austin and elsewhere have probably partitioned their disks down into relatively "small" chunks so that a re-format of the C: partition will be limited in scope. If I was doing operating system development, you would be darn sure that I would wall all of my "personal" stuff of into separate partitions. I doubt that all of the developers are as fortunate as me to have a pair of big disks (so that they can keep "personal" stuff on a separate drive). Anyway, this is probably why this problem wasn't noticed. Give the OS/2 developers a break, folks! Debugging a large operating system with a large user community running all sorts of applications on all sorts of hardware configurations is no picnic. These folks are not slacking off or maliciously ignoring anybody's problems; they're working as fast as they can! John A. Pershing Jr. ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 14:18:58 on 92/07/24 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Losing Icons Ref: Append at 13:09:26 on 92/07/24 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Irv, do you have any fixes, what all of us should apply? Regardless of we found the bug or not? Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 NHO-32 801-7th Ave Calgary, Alberta, CANADA T2P 2N6 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:13:46 on 92/07/24 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Losing Icons Ref: Append at 14:18:58 on 92/07/24 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Geza, I would NOT recommend any fix unless one has a specific problem that is fixed by a fix. Why? Because the level of testing done was for the fix only, not a system level and application test. The fixes made available are 'selective' as we are getting only the major detractors out to allow people to go forward. Of course, as long as you save the old files (or know how to get them off the distribution diskettes), and you feel adventurous, you could apply them all. I have one machine I at least verify all fixes I can (H/W constrainded) before I let them go so I do know they let me work at least. Still, I would operate under the "if it aint broke don't fix it' principle. Irv Spalten BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:56:41 on 92/07/24 GMT (by STGA049 at OS2CUST) Subject: os/2 and sybase dbms server Does anyone have experience with running sybase as a dbms server under os/2? I'm interested in any positive/negative experiences. Have you have any memory management problems with contention of sybase and os/2? Paula Reith, Ga Dept of Corrections ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:58:47 on 92/07/24 GMT (by STGA049 at OS2CUST) Subject: ibm/sybase cics/os/2/db2 gateway I understand that this product is released today. Are there any beta experienc es to share? Paula Reith, Ga Dept of Corrections ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:56:04 on 92/07/24 GMT (by TBHIC at OS2CUST) Subject: Support of Multi-Gigabyte drives I would like to format a single drive of greater than 2 gigabytes. I know there is a problem with disk drives with > 1024 cylinders which normally limits a drive to 512 megs. My understanding is that this limitation is a bios feild size restriction and has NOT gone away with 2.0. We have been able to format multigig drives in the past using patched DISK01.SYS device drivers from the drive vendors. We are reluctant to move these systems to 2.0. I have heard, on the NSC BBS, that this limitation can be circumvented by a combination of sector translation and tackmapping. An UltraStor 12/F with firmware revision #9 apparently does this and does away with the requirement of having a patched DISK01.SYS. Is there a definitive answer from IBM on this? What is supported? Matt Hickman, Chevron Matt@bhice.hou130.chevron.com ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 17:11:15 on 92/07/24 GMT (by SSIA013 at OS2CUST) Subject: Support of Multi-Gigabyte drives Ref: Append at 16:56:04 on 92/07/24 GMT (by TBHIC at OS2CUST) I have formatted drives with > 1024 cylinders. The drive was an ESDI type and only had a total of 320mb (not nearly as large as the 2+gb drives you are refferring to), but the drive did have 1200+ cylinders. The secret is in the translating controller -- OS/2 2.0 is running without a glitch on this one!! Paul Kurr -- Stockholder Systems, Norcross GA ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 17:25:40 on 92/07/24 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Losing Icons Ref: Append at 15:13:46 on 92/07/24 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Thanks, Irv . At least this is a straight answer. I hope I'll survive till the 32bit GRE EEP or (worst case) September. Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 NHO-32 801-7th Ave Calgary, Alberta, CANADA T2P 2N6 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 18:04:57 on 92/07/24 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST) Subject: New PMHPO Ref: Append at 13:26:14 on 92/07/24 GMT (by PERSHNG at YKTVMH) John - If we didn't care, we would have given up 3-4 days after attempting to use OS/2 2.0! Instead, there are a number of us that have spent many, many hours and addiional money (this BBS) in order to lend a hand. The point is that I've spoken to probably 12 IBM support people and nobody used HPFS. Many do not use WPS. It is difficult to explain what the problems are in WPS when the WPS support fellow tells me that he only uses the Full Screen OS/2 Command Line interface! We are trying to be patient, but from the standpoint of at least some of us, OS/2 is not quite finished yet. I was in the beta program and many of the problems posted on the NSC board during this period have not been addressed. Chris Knoell (MGH) ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 18:17:00 on 92/07/24 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST) Subject: New PMHPO Ref: Append at 13:26:14 on 92/07/24 GMT (by PERSHNG at YKTVMH) John, the long install I think indictates a bad installation. As Jerry Sitbon has commented on the installation and base Forums, if you have a very fast machine it may not seem slow. In order to know if it is slow or fast, it must be compared to FAT and the recommended <100 MB solution. I am not at all convinced that the problem ends after installation - not from my experience. Please try to get a relative idea of the quickness of an identical system using the above configurations - I hope that it's only a few of us, but I fear it may be many more. The makeini process is probably a good guage of the speed of one system versus another - on mine it took an hour for each "ini" We are trying to help - this is intended to be constructive! Chris Knoell (MGH) ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 23:58:44 on 92/07/24 GMT (by WZ00511 at OS2CUST) Subject: IBM Library Reader/2 I know this is a mundane question and I should rtfm, but I'm in a hurry. I just unloaded the TCP/IP pubs from my A: drive by typing TCPBOOK e:\readibm2 Then I tried to read one of these by typing "READIBM EALS3101.BOO" and it begins to start something and then tells me that the book I am trying to read cannot be read with IBM Library Reader/2. Whats the story? Is there something simple that I am missing? I am doing the this from OS/2 2.0 and I have installed the reader and can read all the books in the starter kit. Can somebody give me some quick help? Thanks in advance. Brad Bueche NationsBank EUC/Hotline Support Norfolk, VA ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 00:54:00 on 92/07/25 GMT (by AADC12H at OS2CUST) Subject: Lost Extended Attribute I am still running both DOS 5.0 and OS/2 2.0 using Dual boot. When I am in DOS I deleted some directories. Now when run OS/2 I can't do a DIR command I got 'SYS0278: The system cannot find the extended attribute.' error message Is there anyway I can fix this problem? ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 22:17:53 on 92/07/26 GMT (by WZ00589 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 2.0 Backup and Restore Hi, I'm looking for a good utility that will backup and restore OS/2 2.0. I look at Fastback, but currently they do not have support for OS/2. Colorado and Sytos are working on a tape backup system for OS/2, but once again it is not available. I known OS/2 has a backup and restore command but it will not backup files that are in use. Is there any product that IBM recommends that will backup and restore OS/2 2.0; files that are in use and also the extented attributes. I also look at the IBM tape backup devices but the 120 meg tape backup system is to expensive for the size. I read the problem number PJ03793 which say's their is a work around solution for the colorado tape backup system, But will it backup files in use and also the extended attributes? I would appreciate any help you can provided me in solving this problem. The following are the spect on the machine I'm running. 1) 486-33mz. AMI mother board 2) Tseng-4000 video adapter 3) 5 1/4 and 3 1/2 floppy disk. 4) 130 meg C drive HPFS. 5) 211 meg D drive HPFS. 6) 16meg memory. Once again thank you. Joe Landenberg ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 23:59:14 on 92/07/26 GMT (by DIAS at DALVM41B) Subject:Tape BU for OS/2 2.0 Very simple solution: buy an Irwin A250 tape unit and PMTAPE. This combination supports my 486 ISA Clone very well. It provides full support for both FAT and HPFS with full extended attribute support. PS: PMTAPE is available from IBM. ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 00:38:28 on 92/07/27 GMT (by WOAN at AUSVM6) Subject: OS/2 2.0 Backup and Restore Ref: Append at 22:17:53 on 92/07/26 GMT (by WZ00589 at OS2CUST) Maynard/Irwin have OS/2 support for their drives. I called Iomega last week and they claimed that they too should have OS/2 software within a couple of weeks. Ron, WOAN AT AUSTIN ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 14:29:19 on 92/07/27 GMT (by CLIVET at HVTVM) ..... OS2QANDA CFORUM modified at 08:10:54 on 92/07/28 GMT (by CLIVET at HVTVM) ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:20:59 on 92/07/27 GMT (by NAAO3IY at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 2.0 Backup and Restore Ref: Append at 22:17:53 on 92/07/26 GMT (by WZ00589 at OS2CUST) (no text entered) John Kennedy -- Hoechst Celanese, Bridgewater, NJ ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:30:09 on 92/07/27 GMT (by NAAO3IY at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 2.0 Backup and Restore Ref: Append at 22:17:53 on 92/07/26 GMT (by WZ00589 at OS2CUST) OS/2 BACKUP will backup files that are in-use, despite the message it produces. What it will not back up is files that are open for update. This is entirely sensible. The operating system will not normally allow this, and no responsibly-written backup program will attempt to subvert that. What you _can_ do is back up everything that BACKUP will allow you to back up, and then just before shutting down, with all applications stopped, run an incremental backup to catch all the stuff that couldn't be backed up before. This should handle everything but a few things like the swapping file (which you don't want to back up anyway), OS2.INI and OS2SYS.INI. These last can be handled by adding a step to back _them_ up into CONFIG.SYS, to run before they're opened. Lord knows BACKUP could be faster, and could have a better interface (Norton Backup is nice), but its refusal to back up files that are open for update is only good design. Since OS/2 is a tasking system, I found BACKUP, used incrementally, quite usable until I traded in my 115MB disk for a 400MB one. John Kennedy -- Hoechst Celanese, Bridgewater, NJ ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 17:19:58 on 92/07/27 GMT (by ZSAM1 at OS2CUST) Subject: M$ SQL Server Ref: Append at 14:01:26 on 92/07/13 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) TRACY, DID YOU EVER GET AN ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION? ALSO, ARE YOU USING ANY OTHER PRODUCTS TO ACCESS THE M$ SQL SERVER WITHIN 2.0? WE'RE CONSIDERING USING SQL SERVER, WRITE WINDOW APPS TO RUN UNDER 2.0 AND ACCESS THE SQL DATABASE. S. Michalik, Kerr-McGee Corp. ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 19:50:04 on 92/07/27 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) Subject: M$ SQL Server Ref: Append at 17:19:58 on 92/07/27 GMT (by ZSAM1 at OS2CUST) Nope! Never did get an answer that said it was or wasn't possible. The program uses the W3DBLIB.DLL that comes with M$ SQL Server. I've heard that NAMED PIPES doesn't work properly in a DOS session under OS/2 2.0 at this time. This is probably were the problem lies. The problem could be resolved if you are to run the DLR code from a true bootable DOS session. However, this has its own limitation - DOS and OS/2 can't both be using the Token-Ring adapter. I hope this helps. Tracy Pipkin, Amoco Production Company - Houston, TX, (713) 596-7720 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 00:53:25 on 92/07/29 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST) Subject: Lost Extended Attribute Ref: Append at 00:54:00 on 92/07/25 GMT (by AADC12H at OS2CUST) Try booting with the OS/2 Install disk and disk 1, press ESC to get to OS/2 prompt, insert disk 2 and run chkdsk c: /f (FAT) or chkdsk c: /f:3 (HPFS). If drive d:, e:, etc. do those also. Mike Long - CARD Iowa State University - PC/LAN Analyst ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 21:43:20 on 92/07/29 GMT (by IL80712 at OS2CUST) Subject: FAX Boards and OS/2 2.0 I apologize if this is old news - I've searched several of these FORUMs and not found any info on this topic. If it is out there somewhere, I would appreciate it if someone could direct me to it.... Is anyone using a FAX board with OS/2 2.0? I am considering the purchase of one, but I am concerned about the ability to receive FAXes. I have read the section about the Intel SatisFAXtion card in the OS/2 README file, but it does not mention receiving FAXes, only sending. I also spoke to a Technical Support person at Intel, who told me that they just plain don't support the use of their products under OS/2 2.0. It seems like receiving a FAX would be possible by starting the software in a DOS session and sitting there waiting for a FAX with the DOS session in the foreground, but what happens if you are working on something else and a FAX tries to come in? Any info on this topic will be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks! :-) Christine Olson, Michigan Bulb Company, Grand Rapids MI ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 01:17:00 on 92/07/30 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE82) Subject: FAX Boards and OS/2 2.0 Ref: Append at 21:43:20 on 92/07/29 GMT (by IL80712 at OS2CUST) Christine, I have seen several posts about a product distributed by a firm here in Atlanta, called PMFax that is supposed to work with the SatisFaxtion board and several other of the fax boards currently available that several folks on the NSC BBS have written good reports on. I have the company's name and number at work and will post it to you tomorrow if you want to talk to them. Jack Hiatt Marc Life Atlanta Ga. ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 05:58:41 on 92/07/30 GMT (by ADUNSMUI at TOROLAB6) Subject: FAX Boards and OS/2 2.0 Ref: Append at 21:43:20 on 92/07/29 GMT (by IL80712 at OS2CUST) You basically have to use an OS/2 driver for a FAX board. The way that most FAX boards operate is to use a MASSIVE number of interrupts to send/receive the image. The _current_ VDM (Virtualized DOS Machine) implementation is single threaded, and typically is limited to about 1000 interrupts/sec. The OS/2 driver doesn't have this limitation. That's also why it's a good idea to use a buffered serial chip if you want to run with high data rates in a VDM. Al Dunsmuir - Appended at 01:53:59 AM EDT on 92/07/30 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:38:05 on 92/07/30 GMT (by DWPX177 at OS2CUST) Subject: Boot process halts: "!!" errors a user installed WorPerfect on his PS/2 80-071, and subsequently his PC locked up and would not re-boot. Errors encountered were: OS2 !! SYS01475 OS2 !! SYS02027 swapper.dat was deleted, then the boot process displayed OS2 !! SYS01475 OS2 !! SYS03146 Is this recoverable, or is a re-install required. Larry Wagner - LADWP (213) 482-7007 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:48:03 on 92/07/30 GMT (by AABA0EM at OS2CUST) Subject: FAX Boards and OS/2 2.0 Ref: Append at 21:43:20 on 92/07/29 GMT (by IL80712 at OS2CUST) Christine, Pacific Image (818)-441-0104 has a FAX board and software which runs under OS/2 2.0. This board can be used in an OS/2 2.0 machine as a FAX Server and can be accessed by LAN attached OS/2 and Windows Clients. We have been using this with good results. Bob Holmes Southern California Gas ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 17:11:18 on 92/07/30 GMT (by WPLYLER at CLTVM3) Subject: FAX Boards and OS/2 2.0 Ref: Append at 16:48:03 on 92/07/30 GMT (by AABA0EM at OS2CUST) The Pacific Image Communications FAX boards use bus mastering to transfer most of their data to and from the FAX interface. The number of system interrupts required is thus reduced greatly. I know that they make a microchannel board. I'm not sure if they have one for the AT bus. Bill Plyler IBM ECAT Logic Design and Support ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 19:17:23 on 92/07/30 GMT (by IL61500 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 Support Issues Howdy folks, How has your experience been with third party (Corporate Software, Softmart) support of ver 2.0? I have been disappointed since most of the support technicians are Windows specialists who were tossed into the OS/2 support role because they are "GUI" familiar. Maybe this is a training issue...... Thanks, LOU BREIT ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 02:12:11 on 92/07/31 GMT (by IL22993 at OS2CUST) Subject: Boot process halts: "!!" errors Ref: Append at 15:38:05 on 92/07/30 GMT (by DWPX177 at OS2CUST) Make sure the files in the root directory are all present. I have seen this happen if a user does a delete *.* on the boot drive. OS2LDR.MSG contains the message text that makes these messages a little more meaningful, and should be in the root directory OS2LDR and OS2KRNL should be hidden and would not normally be deleted CONFIG.SYS has a backup copy in ¢os2¢install if I remember correctly. It will be the original install version so you would need to re-tailor it. You can copy OS2LDR.MSG off of the original install diskette. I normally do an ATTRIB +R on the .MSG and .SYS file in the root to avoid this problem. I wish OS/2 would do this by default. That way you can tell when a DOS install program tries to wipe out config.sys. George Clark, Norton Company ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 02:31:02 on 92/07/31 GMT (by WZ00589 at OS2CUST) Subject: INPCS-HPO Version 1.1 on OS/2 2.0 Hi, I was given a copy of INPCS-HPO to allow me to download from IBMLINK3. I transfer several files down successful (No error in transmission). When I try to execute the files download, an error occurs. I have download the pkunzip.exe files but OS/2 does the recognize it as an executable file. I also download zip files and pack files but all these files are not usable. I called OS/2 2.0 support and they were able to duplicate the error. They recommend that I send a message asking for help to resolve this problem. I would appreciate any help you can provided me in downloading fixes. Joe Landenberg ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 13:38:55 on 92/07/31 GMT (by SAAW0QT at OS2CUST) Subject: Boot process halts: "!!" errors Ref: Append at 02:12:11 on 92/07/31 GMT (by IL22993 at OS2CUST) Experineced a similar problem when doing CTRL+alt+del after having workplace sh ell problems and the shutdowm command would not execute. System restarted corr ectly after a cold boot. Jay E Carter - Ralston Purina ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 13:44:56 on 92/07/31 GMT (by IL80712 at OS2CUST) Subject: FAX Boards and OS/2 2.0 Ref: Append at 01:17:00 on 92/07/30 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE82) Jack - I would like to get more info on PMFax and would appreciate the company's phone number. To everyone else who responded - Thank you VERY much for the info. I really appreciate it. Christine Olson, Michigan Bulb Company, Grand Rapids MI ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:13:09 on 92/07/31 GMT (by AAAE25P at OS2CUST) Subject: OS2 COMM MGR FILE TRANSFER I HAVE NOT HAD MUCH SUCCESS IN USING THE COMM MGR FILE TRANSFER TO/FROM THE HOST. IT SEEMS THE PROCESS WORKS OK UNTIL I GET BACK A MSG THAT HOST HAS NOT RESPONDED TO THE COMMAND. IT TELLS ME TO SWITCH TO THE HOST WINDOW WHERE I FIND AN ERROR. IT SEEMS SOMETHING IS TACKING ON A BRACKET OR PARAN AFTER THE IND$FILE COMMAND, ETC. IT IS AN OPEN PARAN OR BRACKET WITH NOTHING BEHIND IT AS WELL AS NO CLOSE PARAN EITHER. I HAVE TRIED REDOING THE PROFILE FOR THESE TO NOT MUCH AVAIL. I EVEN USED THE MODEL PROFILE JUST FOR GRINS TO SEE IF THAT HELP...NO CHANGE. WHAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED IN MY SETTINGS, ETC. OR DO I NEED SOMETHING ELSE ? I END UP DOING 'MANUAL' COMMANDS IN AN OS/2 SCREEN AND IT WORKED JUST FINE. CARLAN BOUNDS ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:41:03 on 92/07/31 GMT (by IL42013 at OS2CUST) Subject: PS/2 Model 80 Expanded Memory Not Recognized by OS/2 I installed OS/2 on a PS/2 Model 80 with 12MB RAM (2MB on system board and 10MB expanded). After running OS/2 for 1 week in that configuration, additional boards (token ring and 3270) were installed. OS/2 no longer recognizes the 10MB of expanded RAM. The expanded memory board is included in the configuration list and diagnostics checks out o.k. HELP!!! Kendall Stall ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:26:43 on 92/07/31 GMT (by Z77JAC at BETASVM2) Subject: PS/2 Model 80 Expanded Memory Not Recognized by OS/2 Ref: Append at 15:41:03 on 92/07/31 GMT (by IL42013 at OS2CUST) This seems to be a common problem with MOD 80s. The usual cause is some sort of installation which wipes out some of the reference info on the fixed disk. Watch during power on self test (POST) to see what number the count goes to. A possible fix for the problem is to rerun configuration from the reference disk but be sure that you are using a reference disk at a level of 1.10 or greater. After that, try restarting OS2 2.0 Please report the results here. Jerry Case, TEAMOS2, Bethesda, MD ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:46:11 on 92/07/31 GMT (by AAEE1AN at OS2CUST) Subject: OS2 COMM MGR FILE TRANSFER Ref: Append at 15:13:09 on 92/07/31 GMT (by AAAE25P at OS2CUST) Not sure this will help, but ... For TSO sessions over SNA (as opposed to direct CUT-mode), we have to set TERM NOBREAK (the TSO command is "TERM NOBREAK") to get IND$FILE to work. If we are running through Candle's SuperSession, we have to turn off compression and suchlike things. :-< Hope you get it working. Mike Andrews, Mgr, Tech support, Okla. Dept. of Transportation (405) 521-4197 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:48:59 on 92/07/31 GMT (by AAEE1AN at OS2CUST) Subject: PS/2 Model 80 Expanded Memory Not Recognized by OS/2 Ref: Append at 16:26:43 on 92/07/31 GMT (by Z77JAC at BETASVM2) Thanks for posting so fast; that is of interest to us here, too. Wonder why, if it is a "common problem with Mod 80's", he had to find out about it the hard way. Mike Andrews, Mgr, Tech support, Okla. Dept. of Transportation (405) 521-4197 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 17:13:04 on 92/07/31 GMT (by IL42013 at OS2CUST) Subject: PS/2 Model 80 Expanded Memory Not Recognized by OS/2 Ref: Append at 16:26:43 on 92/07/31 GMT (by Z77JAC at BETASVM2) Ran configuration with level 1.10 and got the same results. POST is not going beyond the 2MB on the system board. I have had a similar problem with Model 80's running as a network server. Novell had a fix to restore track 0 with the expanded memory info. Is there anything out there to do the same for OS/2? Kendall Stall ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 17:14:47 on 92/07/31 GMT (by Z77JAC at BETASVM2) Subject: PS/2 Model 80 Expanded Memory Not Recognized by OS/2 Ref: Append at 16:48:59 on 92/07/31 GMT (by AAEE1AN at OS2CUST) First, I don't guarantee that the action I suggested will fix the problem but the internal forums have had a number of reports on this problem (if, in fact, it is the same one). As to the question of why the situation didn't turn up immediately with the service folks or why it isn't mentioned in product documentation I'm afraid I don't have any information (not having anything directly to do with service OR OS2 2.0 beyond being part of TEAMOS2). I think people are trying REALLY hard, but it was only recently that a lot of these problems started becoming clear. In this regard, some time can be saved if everyone gets, from their SE, copies of the documents 'OS2 Tips and Techniques' and V2TECH neither of which have pub numbers but both of which should be readily available to customers. If any of your SEs can't get the documents, I can dig up and post the method for obtaining them. Keep the OS2 faith. We're trying to pedal fast but a lot of us have never ridden bicycles before :-) Jerry Case, TEAMOS2, Bethesda, MD ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 18:08:54 on 92/07/31 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) Subject: INPCS-HPO Version 1.1 on OS/2 2.0 Ref: Append at 02:31:02 on 92/07/31 GMT (by WZ00589 at OS2CUST) Be sure you are downloading the files in binary. Your symptoms are usually caused by EBCDIC-ASCII translation during the download. They can also be caused by transmission errors (bad download). Nathan Davis ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 18:26:16 on 92/07/31 GMT (by AACU823 at OS2CUST) Subject: Memory management for DOS under OS/2 2.0 I am trying to run Paradox 3.5 in the DOS box under OS/2 2.0 I need to use the memory above 640K for my application. Under DOS 3.3 I use a memory manager, but is this possible under OS/2 2.0 and if so, how do I do it? Thanks, Lyn Salsky ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 18:39:02 on 92/07/31 GMT (by IL87977 at OS2CUST) Subject: INPCS-HPO Version 1.1 on OS/2 2.0 Ref: Append at 18:08:54 on 92/07/31 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) I too had this same problem and was as pointed out a problem with how I perform the RECEIVE. You can avoid this problem by doing the RECEIVE SHOWTOPC....exactly as the download states and then running the showtopc.cmd which has the RECEIVE parameters set exactly as they need be for the type of file(s) you will be downloading. Terry Bone - Ford Motor Credit ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 18:44:53 on 92/07/31 GMT (by Z77JAC at BETASVM2) Subject: Memory management for DOS under OS/2 2.0 Ref: Append at 18:26:16 on 92/07/31 GMT (by AACU823 at OS2CUST) Lyn - It should definitely be possible to use lots of memory in your DOS session via the 'DOS Settings'. To be more specific in answering your question, what type of memory is called for? OS2 2.0 supports 'expanded memory' (LIM EMS) or DPMI memory (a DOS extender like VCPI which MS supports in WIN 3.1. DPMI, however, is much more well behaved than VCPI. You can find information on the 'DOS Settings' from the master index on the desktop or append more details here and I'll try to help. Jerry Case, TEAMOS2, Bethesda, MD ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 19:07:26 on 92/07/31 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS2 COMM MGR FILE TRANSFER Ref: Append at 15:13:09 on 92/07/31 GMT (by AAAE25P at OS2CUST) I have no problems SENDing or RECEIVEing file with the OS/2 Communications Manager to my inhouse TSO and VM systems, with IBMLink, and with another service that I connect to via IIN. HOWEVER, I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO UPLOAD TO THE OS2BBS using CM.... It always indicates that the host has not responded. Suggestions... Lionel Dyck - Rockwell International, Information Systems Center ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 19:32:19 on 92/07/31 GMT (by NAAO3IY at OS2CUST) Subject: OS2 COMM MGR FILE TRANSFER Ref: Append at 15:13:09 on 92/07/31 GMT (by AAAE25P at OS2CUST) That bracket is normal for VM. It is not normal for TSO. John Kennedy -- Hoechst Celanese, Bridgewater, NJ ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 00:57:01 on 92/08/01 GMT (by IL22993 at OS2CUST) Subject: PS/2 Model 80 Expanded Memory Not Recognized by OS/2 Ref: Append at 17:13:04 on 92/07/31 GMT (by IL42013 at OS2CUST) I am pretty sure we ran into this problem a while back and had to remove and then re-configure the memory adapter from a reference diskette that had the correct files on it. It would be best to find the original option diskette for the memory adapter, make sure it is copied onto a current reference diskette, and then re-install the adapter. This is all pretty fuzzy... It was quite a while ago. You should not have to have anything special from OS/2. OS/2 should not bother track 0. Can anyone recall... Was there some caveat on this when using the boot manager? I have not tried boot manager on the one Mod 80 that has this memory board, so I don't know first hand if there are any problems. By the way... Option diskettes and reference diskettes can be downloaded from the IBM NSC BBS in Atlanta. (Or at least could be last time I checked). You just have to "sign" some sort of electronic disclaimer. George Clark, Norton Company ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 01:36:00 on 92/08/01 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE81) Subject: FAX Boards and OS/2 2.0 Ref: Append at 13:44:56 on 92/07/31 GMT (by IL80712 at OS2CUST) Christine, Will try to remember to post the numbers for you over the weekend, if I fail to do so please leave me a reminder note on Monday. Those numbers are at the office. Jack Hiatt Marc Life Atlanta Ga. ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 17:30:36 on 92/08/02 GMT (by WZ00511 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 Support Issues Ref: Append at 19:17:23 on 92/07/30 GMT (by IL61500 at OS2CUST) Lou, I work on a Hotline (Software Support) AND I deal with Corp. Software on a regular basis. I can tell you that it is not a matter of training so much as it is a matter of priorities. What this means is that if you only get 3 calls a week on OS/2 and 300 calls a week on windows...you're time is going to be better spent keeping up on windows. If only 1% of your callers are unhappy (this is assuming that they cant answer ANY OS/2 calls), then you don't have a very bad record. Moreover, getting quizzed on a topic (which in a way is what trouble shooting is) only 3 times a week doesn't really force you to learn that subject. OS/2 2.0 is not officially supported in this company yet. Heck, we havent even received our upgrades yet! The only person I support in OS/2 2.0 is someone who I talked out of going to UNIX for his statistical work. And I lent him the 3/31 download code to do that! I know other people in the company are running OS/2 2.0 but they are mostly programmers who would rather die than fail to figure out something themselves. I'm constantly trying to sell people on OS/2 and I'm trying to identify all the people who are running it. I am learning OS/2 2.0 because I think that by next year at this time it will have taken off (NT still being in some extended beta at that time) and I will be in a position to shine! Additionally, I personally love OS/2 2.0! Moreover, if OS/2 2 takes off like I think it will and I dont know it inside and out then I/and my dept. will be up the creek! Brad Bueche NationsBank EUC/Hotline Support Norfolk, VA ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 17:43:25 on 92/08/02 GMT (by WZ00511 at OS2CUST) Subject: FAX Boards and OS/2 2.0 Ref: Append at 16:48:03 on 92/07/30 GMT (by AABA0EM at OS2CUST) Bob, Is that FAX server is operating in Peer-to-Peer mode? Also, what is the interface like..is it nice and GUI? What is the highest speed it can handle? And have you used it at that speed while multi-tasking? Brad Bueche NationsBank EUC/Hotline Support Norfolk, VA ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 21:17:47 on 92/08/02 GMT (by SYKES at ATLSER) Subject: FAX Boards and OS/2 2.0 Ref: Append at 13:44:56 on 92/07/31 GMT (by IL80712 at OS2CUST) PMfax is marketed by: SoftNet, Inc. 380 Interstate North Parkway, Suite 150 Atlanta, GA 30339 (404) 984-8088 voice (404) 984-9956 fax Bill Sykes PROFS: ATLVM10(SYKES) IBMMAIL: USIB14BG Internet: Sykes@atlvm10.vnet.ibm.com From: SYKES at ATLSER ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 01:40:20 on 92/08/03 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE81) Subject: FAX Boards and OS/2 2.0 Ref: Append at 21:17:47 on 92/08/02 GMT (by SYKES at ATLSER) Bill, Thanks, you beat me to it. Jack Hiatt Marc Life Atlanta Ga. ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:28:15 on 92/08/03 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Subject: PS/2 Model 80 Expanded Memory Not Recognized by OS/2 Ref: Append at 00:57:01 on 92/08/01 GMT (by IL22993 at OS2CUST) I have a suggestion on how you can have the system re-install the missing boot file so that all the memory can be accessed. 1. With the system off, remove the memory card. 2. Using the reference disk, set up the system with out the memory card. 3. Turn off computer, Turn it on with a DOS disk in the A: drive. (You most likely will not have enough memory to get OS/2 to run) 4. Shut down, Re-install the memory card. 5. Insert reference diskette and trun on computer. 6. Do automatic configuration, Do not remove reference disk during installation. Normally the system will boot a secon time with the reference disk to set up the disk start up file on the hard disk. 7. Exit Reference disk program, Shut down, trun on system Hopefully the system will see all the memory. I have a PS/2 80 and have found that you can lose the memory boot information but with the above procedure you will get it back. If you like you can reach me at the phone number listed Jerry Sitbon (718) 357-4369 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 18:47:46 on 92/08/06 GMT (by TKP at RHQVM14) Subject: PS/2 Model 80 Expanded Memory Not Recognized by OS/2 Ref: Append at 15:28:15 on 92/08/03 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Question about icons. Open the settings on a DOS or OS/2 window and try edit the icon- the icon editor always seems to edit an icon called WP!1.ICO. My WP!1.ICO is located in the /tcpip/tmp subdirectory- how on earth does it wind up in this subdirectory? If I edit and save the icon and then exit, my DOS window icon does not change- I still see the old icon. IF I go back into settings and edit the icon (still called WP!1.ICO, I see my edited icon! Is there a simple solution to this mystery? Thanks in advance. Tom Philips ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 21:48:32 on 92/08/06 GMT (by IL42013 at OS2CUST) Subject: PS/2 Model 80 Expanded Memory Not Recognized by OS/2 Ref: Append at 15:28:15 on 92/08/03 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Our problem has been solved. The expanded memory card that was installed needed to be replaced with an updated version (only the card, the SIMS were OK). Thanks for all of the suggestions! Kendall Stall ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 22:03:06 on 92/08/06 GMT (by TKP at RHQVM14) Subject: CMAPL Ref: Append at 21:48:32 on 92/08/06 GMT (by IL42013 at OS2CUST) I installed CMAPL, the apl applet for communications manager, and followed the instructions on loading the acsusapl configuration file into my default configuration file. I then started comm. manager, got a host session up, xedited a file, set APL on, and tried to generate APL characters. No luck. The manual tells me to "Type the state of the keys where APL strings have been added to see that the APL characters are displayed". I assume that this means using the appropriate Ctl-key combination to generate an APL character. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance Tom Philips ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 22:58:05 on 92/08/06 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) Subject: Changing icons Ref: Append at 18:47:46 on 92/08/06 GMT (by TKP at RHQVM14) The icon attached to an object is actually a bitmap array. The one shown first by the editor is for VGA. If you have an XGA or 8514 display adapter, the desktop uses the 8514 bitmap. In the bitmap editor, select Device->list from the action bar. Select the 8514 device and press the View button (then press OK). Edit this icon and see it the changes become visible. NOTE: the running icon (in the Minimized Window Viewer) will not use your customized icon. The WPS extracts on object's icon into a file WP!n.ICO (where n is a number used to create a unique file name) because the icons do not exist as separate files. The directory is determined by the TMP environment variable set in CONFIG.SYS Nathan Davis ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:41:39 on 92/08/07 GMT (by PSC44 at OS2CUST) Subject: UPPERCASING ENTRYFIELD CONTROLS I would like to uppercase the characters that are typed into an ENTRYFIELD control regardless of the state of the SHIFT. I have tried responding to WM_CHAR and WM_TRANSLATEACCEL messages without success. WM_CHAR appears to arrive at my program after the character is placed on the screen. WM_TRANSLATEACCEL happens before the character is placed on the screen but my uppercased character in mp2 does not appear the lowercase one does. Is there an ES_UPPERCASE option on the control I am missing? Thanks for any suggestions. Joe Magrino Prodigy Services Co. Joe Magrino ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:31:53 on 92/08/07 GMT (by AOI1075 at OS2CUST) Subject: Changing icons Ref: Append at 22:58:05 on 92/08/06 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) I've seen several users get confused this way. OS/2 2.0 icon editor should set the default to match the system on which it runs. This would eliminate all the confusion that XGA users encounter trying to make their first customized icon. J.Farmer IBMMAIL(USAOIXGW) ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 17:54:47 on 92/08/07 GMT (by RWH at GDLVM7) - Subject: UPPERCASING ENTRYFIELD CONTROLS Ref: Append at 15:41:39 on 92/08/07 GMT (by PSC44 at OS2CUST) Joe - the best that I have come up with for my own programs is to subclass the entry field control, catch the WM_CHAR, uppercase the character, and then pass the message on to the original window procedure. Ron Hoffman -- VM PWSCS Development -- Endicott ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 00:21:53 on 92/08/08 GMT (by BCHI040 at OS2CUST) Subject: SWAPSIZE.EXE From the RED Book I was going through the OS/2 version 2.0 vol:1 Control programs page 162 (GG24-3730-00) and found referance to a program that will monitor the size of the SWAPPER.DAT file in a PM window is there a way to get a copy of this program. The book list the source code but I do not have the C compiler and lib's to create it. Jerry Hittle, Hawaii Medical Service Ass'n ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 00:54:00 on 92/08/08 GMT (by ALLT001 at OS2CUST) Subject: SWAPSIZE.EXE From the RED Book Ref: Append at 00:21:53 on 92/08/08 GMT (by BCHI040 at OS2CUST) Here's a REXX command file that I use for this: /* Monitor Swapper File Size */ arg howlong . if howlong = '' then howlong = 10 do while howlong>0 call sysfiletree "G:¢OS2¢SYSTEM¢SWAPPER.DAT", "file" megs = word(file.1,3)/1024/1024 call syscls say say time() "SWAPPER =" megs "MB" do i=1 to howlong while howlong>0 call syssleep 1 if chars()>0 then howlong=0 end end do while(chars()>0) x=sysgetkey('NOECHO') end Change the path for your swapper file (from G:¢OS2¢SYSTEM). I also assume that you have already done the 'load magic REXX stuff' before this. I do it in my STARTUP.CMD. For reference: call RxFuncAdd 'SysLoadFuncs', 'RexxUtil', 'SysLoadFuncs' call SysLoadFuncs Bruce M. Ferry, ALLTEL Corporation ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 14:03:04 on 92/08/08 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Subject: SWAPSIZE.EXE From the RED Book Ref: Append at 00:21:53 on 92/08/08 GMT (by BCHI040 at OS2CUST) I distributed the REDBOOK source files, the one you want is RB3730. It should be on this BBS. If not, let me know, and I'll resend it. Irv Spalten BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 08:56:14 on 92/08/10 GMT (by STUDN112 at HVTVM) Subject: Is there any way of having an automatic task scheduler? With OS2 running an SQL server is there a piece of software that acts in the same way as Unix's Cron. The idea being that the server is shutdown automatically every night for a backup and then brought back up again. If you do know of any such software then please let me know. Thank you Chris ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:03:34 on 92/08/10 GMT (by IL26761 at OS2CUST) Subject: Is there any way of having an automatic task scheduler? Ref: Append at 08:56:14 on 92/08/10 GMT (by STUDN112 at HVTVM) There are several shareware products that would probably do the trick for you as well as at least 1 commerical package that has been advertized in several of the computer mags. If you want to check out the shareware stuff take a look at the OS/2 Shareware BBS in Va. 703-385-0931 Jack Hiatt MARC-Life Atlanta Ga. ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 18:31:03 on 92/08/10 GMT (by NAAO3IY at OS2CUST) Subject: PS/2 Model 80 Expanded Memory Not Recognized by OS/2 Ref: Append at 18:47:46 on 92/08/06 GMT (by TKP at RHQVM14) The icon that is actually in use is in the Extended Attributes of the object. When you edit it, WPS invokes the regular old Icon Editor from the Productivity folder. Since that program wants to deal with an icon file, WPS first creates a file named WP!1.ICO (or WP!2.ICO, etc.,) in the directory pointed to by your TMP or TEMP environment variable. Then when you terminate the Icon Editor normally, WPS copies the file back into the Extended Attributes and erases it. John Kennedy -- Hoechst Celanese, Bridgewater, NJ ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 18:38:20 on 92/08/10 GMT (by NAAO3IY at OS2CUST) Subject: CMAPL Ref: Append at 22:03:06 on 92/08/06 GMT (by TKP at RHQVM14) For ACSUSAPL, yes, use, for example, Ctrl-G and test whether it produces a Del. Similarly for the other keyboards. Did you also copy ACSAPL.FON into CMLIB? Note that ACSAPL.FON is not complete, and does not work with certain font sizes. (Narrow ones normally used for model-5 emulation are the main omissions.) I don't know whether this is because some of the APL characters are just too complicated or whether the guy in charge of entering all those li'l tiny pixels to make the pretty characters just got carried away in a straightjacket before he finished. (It's certainly not a job _I_ would want....) John Kennedy -- Hoechst Celanese, Bridgewater, NJ ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 19:01:50 on 92/08/10 GMT (by BCHI040 at OS2CUST) Subject: SWAPSIZE.EXE From the RED Book Ref: Append at 14:03:04 on 92/08/08 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Thanks for the tip on RB3730, I look for it but could not find it. If you coul d resend it that would be great. You stated source are you refering to source code or an executable file. Im really intrested in an EXE I have no available C compiler to compile source code. Jerry Hittle, Hawaii Medical Service Ass'n P.O. Box 860 Hon Hi 96808 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 19:54:38 on 92/08/10 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Subject: SWAPSIZE.EXE From the RED Book Ref: Append at 14:03:04 on 92/08/08 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Oops. Little distribution mix up here. The RB3730 package (which includes SWAPSIZE.EXE) is now available for download from the Tools section of the Software Library. The other Redbook sample packages will follow shortly... Brent Allen - IBM OS/2 Base Services Support ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 20:22:17 on 92/08/10 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Subject: SWAPSIZE.EXE From the RED Book Ref: Append at 19:01:50 on 92/08/10 GMT (by BCHI040 at OS2CUST) I've been in contact with the SYSOP's here, files should be available soon. Both source and Executable is in the package. Irv Spalten BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 09:11:40 on 92/08/11 GMT (by STUDN112 at HVTVM) Subject: Moving SWAPPER.DAT, Is it Possible ? I am trying to move Swapper.Dat on OS2 V2 to another drive which has got more space on it. I have been told that this cannot be done. Is this true and if so why? Thank you Chris Moore ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 11:39:16 on 92/08/11 GMT (by MORT at KGNVMA) Subject: Moving SWAPPER.DAT, Is it Possible ? Ref: Append at 09:11:40 on 92/08/11 GMT (by STUDN112 at HVTVM) ) Change the line in your config.sys starting with SWAPPATH=(path) parameter1 parameter2 and reboot. See the online help under SWAPPATH for more information. After reboot, make sure the _old_ SWAPPER.DAT is deleted to clear up the room. Eric ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 11:44:16 on 92/08/11 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE83) Subject: Moving SWAPPER.DAT, Is it Possible ? Ref: Append at 09:11:40 on 92/08/11 GMT (by STUDN112 at HVTVM) There is no problem moving the swap file to another partition or disk. Just edit config.sys and find the swappath statement and change it. If you put it in a sub-dir make sure to create the directory. Shut down and reboot, now you can go back in and delete the original on the boot disk. There are even provisions for putting it on a separate disk at install time, but don't believe it is well documented. Jack Hiatt Marc Life Atlanta Ga. ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 19:24:48 on 92/08/11 GMT (by SURS001 at OS2CUST) Subject: Is there a fix for APAR PJ04056 Just receieved a software upgrade and the documentation stated that I must apply the fix for APAR PJ04056. So I went to the selective fixes and there were no fixes for this APAR. My question is this, is there a fix for this APAR, and are all fixes going to be made available to this BBS. Byron Campbell State Universities Retirement System ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 02:00:32 on 92/08/13 GMT (by IL93148 at OS2CUST) Subject: Nowhere subdirectory Gentlemen: What is the "Nowhere" subdirectory for? Also what is the file "os2ldr.msg" used for? thanx, David Campbell UserID IL93148 David W. Campbell ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 13:14:50 on 92/08/13 GMT (by CNADLER at WMAVM1) Subject: Nowhere subdirectory Ref: Append at 02:00:32 on 92/08/13 GMT (by IL93148 at OS2CUST) In reverse order: OS2LDR.MSG is the file containing all the messages used by the kernel and loader. DO NOT ERASE!!!!! In fact, use "attrib +r os2ldr.msg" to set it to read-only to make sure you don't accidentally erase it (also a good idea for CONFIG.SYS, AUTOEXEC.BAT and any other important file). If you don't have this file in your root directory, you will get two SYS messages at boot, and OS/2 will not run. The NOWHERE directory is used by the Workplace shell as a place to put transient objects (like printer drivers when you open the settings for a printer object). In a command file, REXX can use it to create and run program objects temporarily (you could make a better START command that will allow you to set the program's settings). Cliff Nadler GO TEAM OS/2! Systems Integration and Services Rockville, MD IBM Federal Systems Company PROFS: NADLER at WMAVM7 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 13:18:00 on 92/08/13 GMT (by NABCA7A at OS2CUST) Subject: Screen changing color Working with os/2 2.0 and wordperfect 5.1 when i encounter and error on my prin ter (i.e. out of paper) my screen color turns a darkened yellow for all icons a nd for the wordperfect screen. Any suggestions??? Tony Magaldi (Allied-Signal Aerospace Co.) 219-231-2187 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:32:02 on 92/08/13 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) Subject: COMMGA.ZIP mis-information The COMMGA.ZIP file that is now available for downloading includes a comment in the COMBETA2.SCR to execute the command 'cominst x:'. But I can't find a cominst anywhere....? Lionel Dyck - Rockwell International, Information Systems Center ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 17:57:04 on 92/08/13 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Subject: COMMGA.ZIP mis-information Ref: Append at 16:32:02 on 92/08/13 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) Right, but that was the 'old' version of 8/11, new one went up last night at 10PM or so. Get it again, it has a later level of code, MODE.COM update, and a README.1ST and all the .CMD files. Irv Spalten BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 19:23:44 on 92/08/13 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) Subject: COMMGA.ZIP mis-information Ref: Append at 17:57:04 on 92/08/13 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Thanks - I pulled the fix this morning and must have just missed the update. I then ftp'd the latest from the ftp location and it has all that you said and works fine..... Thanks.... Lionel Dyck - Rockwell International, Information Systems Center ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 00:36:31 on 92/08/14 GMT (by JSJANG at SJSVM28) Subject: .; in LIBPATH I have written an application D:\JSJANG\QRVIEWER.EXE that uses a DLL that I created in D:\JSJANG\UTQBIC.DLL. I have set up my LIBPATH=.;D:\JSJANG;C:\MMOS2\DLL;....... The aplication runs successfully from he command prompt regardless of what is the current working directory. I however encountered following problem when I tried to run the program in WPS environment. Here is the description : In a data file object, I have setup it's Open->Setting menu to start the program d:\JSJANG\QRVIEWER.EXE automatically. When I double cick the data file object, I got following messages: SYS2070 A program has encountered a problem and can't continue The system can't demand load application's segment. QRVIEWER->UTQBIC.WINDESTROYWINUMCNR is in error. This problem DOESN'T EXIST if I remove .; from the LIBPATH. But in reality, I can't ask our customer to not put the .; in the LIBPATH. I believe, there must be something I didn't do right. Can some one help ? Thanks. Jing-Song Jang JSJANG at SJSVM28 8-466-3137 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 14:56:02 on 92/08/14 GMT (by AACU823 at OS2CUST) Subject: Memory management for DOS under OS/2 2.0 Thanks for the response back. To summarize how I have attempted to utilize memory beyond 640, I start up my Paradox program in a DOS window under OS/2 2.0. Within Paradox I attempt to configure the program to run in protected mode. The response I get back from Paradox when I do this is the following: "Your machine is using an expanded memory manager that does not support the Virtual Control Program Interface. You will not be able to run Paradox in protected mode while this driver is loaded. Remove the driver from config. sys, restart your machine and run the custom configuration utility in Para- dox". I should mention that this is Paradox 3.5. I have also set DOS_HIGH in the DOS Settings configuration for the session with no effect on the program - Paradox is still running in real mode. Any suggestions short of going with another version of Paradox? thanks. Lyn Salsky ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:03:09 on 92/08/14 GMT (by SAMI3QU at OS2CUST) Subject: Memory management for DOS under OS/2 2.0 Ref: Append at 14:56:02 on 92/08/14 GMT (by AACU823 at OS2CUST) Lyn, OS/2 2.0 does not support VCPI, only DPMI. Mark Thompson - Coal Services Corp. St. Louis, MO ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:38:43 on 92/08/14 GMT (by XXNOVA01 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Error Loading User Driver I receive the above message trying to boot OS/2 and the boot hangs. Any ideas as to why? Near as I can tell it always occurs after booting DOS5 from a floppy. The cure seems to be to LOW-LEVEL format the disk, and reinstall OS/2. OS2 is GA, machine is a PS2-70/E61 with IBM TokenRing Future Domain Scsi, and IBM Memory Expansion cards. I think that the DOS is MS-DOS (I'm afraid to look, since I have done this 3 times), and it has the DOS SCSI drivers on it. Does DOS write something on the boot sector that OS2 hates? If I boot OS2 from floppy the disk is accessable and appears to be undamaged otherwise. Any insight would be appreciated. Perci Hala Nova Corp ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 17:35:26 on 92/08/14 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST) Subject: Error Loading User Driver Ref: Append at 15:38:43 on 92/08/14 GMT (by XXNOVA01 at TORVMCOP) Perci , Could that MS-DOS disk that you are booting from have a Virus on it? Mike Long - CARD Iowa State University - PC/LAN Analyst ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 20:39:32 on 92/08/14 GMT (by IL35430 at OS2CUST) Subject: xga display problems when installing os/2 2.0 the Extended graphics array display option comes up bu t the entire system locks up when i try to move an icon on the desktop. am i m issing something during setup or is xga mode not functioning?? ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:18:15 on 92/08/16 GMT (by K0742 at OS2CUST) Subject: serial port problem When I prepare a DOS 5 bootable disk, place it in drive A, and select "Boot From Drive A" from OS2, COM2 (mouse) becomes an "illegal device name" - the mouse driver will not load. With the disk in A: a cold boot works fine. Also in OS2 all is fine. Why is COM2 lost to DOS if I try to boot a 'true DOS' in this manner? Bill Blount ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 17:15:05 on 92/08/17 GMT (by NANR6GN at OS2CUST) Subject: serial port problem Ref: Append at 15:18:15 on 92/08/16 GMT (by K0742 at OS2CUST) When you load BOOT DOS from the A drive make sure that you are pointing to the mouse driver that is in the d:\OS2\MDOS directory. You can find this information out by doing a search for "starting a specifc version of dos" in the command reference. Cesar Ventura Telesector Resources Group ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:47:03 on 92/08/18 GMT (by XXNOVA01 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Error Loading User Driver Ref: Append at 17:35:26 on 92/08/14 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST) Good thought, but when I checked it with McAfee, it came out clean! (are there OS2 viruses yet?) Any other ideas? Perci Hala Nova Corp 403-541-4614 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 23:06:48 on 92/08/18 GMT (by WZ00511 at OS2CUST) Subject: Error Loading User Driver Ref: Append at 15:47:03 on 92/08/18 GMT (by XXNOVA01 at TORVMCOP) Perci, An append from a McAffee employee on CIS stated that there are no OS/2 viruses. Whether there actually are any OS/2 viruses or not is anybody's guess. Aparently, McAffee Associates are not aware of any Brad Bueche NationsBank EUC/Hotline Support Norfolk, VA ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:27:37 on 92/08/19 GMT (by RLGINES at CHGVMIC1) Subject: Error Loading User Driver Ref: Append at 23:06:48 on 92/08/18 GMT (by WZ00511 at OS2CUST) Although I am not with the IBM virus group, I have not heard of any OS/2 based viruses. Most of the techniques used in the DOS world would need to be greatly enhanced to work in the OS/2 environment. I'm sure that as OS/2 becomes more popular then we will see some show up. RIght now thought the OS/2 environment has some very basic anti virus capabilities in it (when compared to DOS obviously). Between the memory allocation fences and the locked executable and DLLs, viruses need to be MUCH more intelligent to replicate them selves. On the other extreme however, once people begin figuring out how to write viruses on OS/2 things could get real interesting now that the virus could technically be sitting in the background as a separate task. Hopping over the fence one more time, I have already sat in on discussions where people have thought of implementing background processes on each machine in a network that checks the status of critical files and memory locations on a continuous basis to check for problems, errors, and as a matter of fact viruses. We'll have to see what happens. Ronald L. Gines ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 17:28:37 on 92/08/20 GMT (by IL69655 at OS2CUST) Subject: Virus Scanner for OS2-HPFS Does anyone out there know of any virus detection product that can Does anyone out there know of any virus detection product that can read an HPFS-formatted OS2 partition? The two products I tested (McAfee's SCAN and DDI's VIRHUNT) could only scan a FAT-formatted partition. This is of vital importance to us and any help would be greatlt appreciated. Thanks, John Salientes The World Bank/IFC, Wash.DC ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 20:22:59 on 92/08/20 GMT (by CHESS at YKTVMV) ..... OS2QANDA CFORUM modified at 23:08:53 on 92/08/20 GMT (by CHESS at YKTVMV) Subject: Virus Scanner for OS2-HPFS Ref: Append at 17:28:37 on 92/08/20 GMT (by IL69655 at OS2CUST) Mod: Remembered the name of IBMLINK! The IBM Virus Scanning Program can read OS/2 HPFS partitions (works in OS/2 as well as DOS sessions). It's only a scanner, but it sounds like it should do what you want. Available, I believe, through branch offices, Promenade, and from the Electronic Software Delivery section on IBMLINK. (It may be listed as The IBM Anti-virus Program as well.) If you're interested in more comprehensive anti-virus coverage, IBM has a Service Offering; call 800-742-2493 for more information. - -- - David M. Chess High Integrity Computing Lab IBM Watson Research ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 03:39:58 on 92/08/21 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE82) Subject: Virus Scanner for OS2-HPFS Ref: Append at 20:22:59 on 92/08/20 GMT (by CHESS at YKTVMV) David, There was a bulletin posted on IBMLink on 7/21/92 that the Virus Scanner was no longer available thru IBMLink, but would continue to be available thru marketing. Jack Hiatt Marc Life Atlanta Ga. ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:02:02 on 92/08/21 GMT (by SAMI3QU at OS2CUST) Subject: Migrating from IDE to SCSI I currently have a 386/33 system with an IDE hard drive. I hope to install a SCSI adapter and CD-ROM in the not-too-distant future. Will OS/2 2.0 allow me to operate with a SCSI adapter, no SCSI HD, and continue to boot off the IDE drive? I'd really like to wait for the IDE drive to fail before replacing it with a SCSI drive. While on the topic of adding a SCSI adapter, will I have to re-install OS/2 to get SCSI support? Thanks in advance. Mark Thompson - Coal Services Corp. St. Louis, MO ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 23:02:02 on 92/08/21 GMT (by Z77JAC at BETASVM2) Subject: Memory management for DOS under OS/2 2.0 Ref: Append at 15:03:09 on 92/08/14 GMT (by SAMI3QU at OS2CUST) Just to make sure that everyone knows that non-support of VCPI in OS2 2.0 is not a capricious decision - VCPI presents a severe system integrity problem in a true multi-tasking system like OS2 2.0. Basically, VCPI allows programs to interfere with unrelated memory and program areas. Very few applications currently use VCPI and users should encourage developers of such applications to switch to DPMI which does not present the same integrity problems. Jerry Case, TEAMOS2, Bethesda ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 23:17:06 on 92/08/21 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE82) Subject: Migrating from IDE to SCSI Ref: Append at 15:02:02 on 92/08/21 GMT (by SAMI3QU at OS2CUST) Had no problems doing just about the same thing that you are wanting to do. Had OS/2 installed on MFM drives though and added FD SCSI adapter for CD-Rom, just did a selective install of the CD-Rom support and was up and running. Up and running that is to some degree in OS/2 as it is not one of the supported drives and I have occassional problems because of that. Jack Hiatt Marc Life Atlanta Ga. ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:49:32 on 92/08/24 GMT (by KERWIJJ at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 2.0 Backup & Restore Across Network I have installed OS/2 2.0 with Novell Netware Workstation Kit for OS/2 v2.0. When I used OS/2 Backup command to backup my harddisk to the server, it worked great and created an 86MB file. When I tried to use OS/2 Restore command, it would not work from any network drive (only physical drive on my workstation). So I had to create an second partition on my harddisk to copy the backup files on to. Once this was done, I was able to restore my C: drive. But I was left with a second partition, until I did an Xcopy to the network and was able to repartition my harddisk. If the Backup command did not work to an network driv e or Restore command work from an network drive, it would have save me all the trouble of repartitioning, copying Backup files, restoring my harddisk, Xcopyin g my harddisk, repartitioning, and Xcopying all the files back on my harddisk. Also I was luck that I have a large harddisk that could handle two partition the size I need to do the copies and restore. OS/2 should be modified to allow restoring from an network drive or disallow backup to an network drive. John J. Kerwin III, Texaco Chemical Company ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 10:35:24 on 92/08/26 GMT (by ARNOLDHF at FSHVMFK1) Subject: Memory management for DOS under OS/2 2.0 Ref: Append at 23:02:02 on 92/08/21 GMT (by Z77JAC at BETASVM2) If I'm not mistaken, didn't Windows 3.x leave out VCPI support? If so, that re-enforces the "correctness" of the decision.... Hank Arnold (8-533-3106) ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:05:42 on 92/08/26 GMT (by WOAN at AUSVM6) Subject: Memory management for DOS under OS/2 2.0 Ref: Append at 10:35:24 on 92/08/26 GMT (by ARNOLDHF at FSHVMFK1) They have VCPI support in standard only where you can't have more than one DOS application running... Ron, WOAN AT AUSTIN ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:45:51 on 92/08/26 GMT (by NAAO3IY at OS2CUST) Subject: Memory management for DOS under OS/2 2.0 Ref: Append at 10:35:24 on 92/08/26 GMT (by ARNOLDHF at FSHVMFK1) It is my understanding that VCPI was (as the Lotus-Intel expanded-memory drafts had been) incapable of being multitasked, and that Microsoft (to do them justice) recognized this and created DPMI (as they had LIM) to correct this. If so, then neither Windows nor OS/2 is capable even in theory of supporting VCPI, at least without virtual-286 support. John Kennedy -- Hoechst Celanese, Bridgewater, NJ ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 20:17:59 on 92/08/26 GMT (by PPBWW at OS2CUST) Subject: What OS/2 system files should be backed up? On an OS/2 2.0 RDS IBM/Novell LAN requester what files should be backed up? I plan on backing up the following list, but wonder if I'm leaving out some.... C:\CONFIG.SYS C:\NET.CFG C:\STARTUP.CMD C:\CMLIB\*.CFG C:\IBMCOM\PROTOCOL.INI C:\IBMCOM\*.INI C:\IBMLAN\ACCOUNTS\NET.ACC C:\IBMLAN\IBMLAN.INI C:\OS2\OS2.INI C:\OS2\OS2SYS.INI I was going to use XCOPY in the CONFIG.SYS to back up these files, but wonder if I really want to do that each time I boot? Thanks. Brian Wolfe, Phillips Petroleum Company ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 13:40:58 on 92/08/27 GMT (by BRETT at RALVM5) Subject: What OS/2 system files should be backed up? Ref: Append at 20:17:59 on 92/08/26 GMT (by PPBWW at OS2CUST) If you are using Extended Services, then you also need to back up any C:\CMLIB\APPN\*.NDF C:\CMLIB\APPN\*.CF2 C:\CMLIB\APPN\*.SEC files you may have. You may not have these if you only have DFT configurations. Otherwise, they are part of your Communications Manager configuration and are required. Brett King, Communications Manager Development ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 13:59:32 on 92/08/27 GMT (by IL23374 at OS2CUST) Subject: What OS/2 system files should be backed up? Ref: Append at 20:17:59 on 92/08/26 GMT (by PPBWW at OS2CUST) You might also want to consider your Windows files? ¢OS2¢MDOS¢WINOS2¢*.INI ¢OS2¢MDOS¢WINOS2¢*.GRP ¢OS2¢MDOS¢WINOS2¢*.CFG? Danny Connell Colonial Life and Accident ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 01:40:16 on 92/09/01 GMT (by WZ00781 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS2 2.0 GA Known Problems I have read the readme that shipped with 2.0 describing the known problems. I am experiencing the problem where the PM version of MS Excel's help does not work. Is anyone at IBM working on resolving these problems? Do I need to try to contact Microsoft about the problem or can I count on IBM to get it resolved? Dave Hancock, Publix Super Markets ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:04:22 on 92/09/01 GMT (by IL78686 at OS2CUST) Subject: IBMLINK under 2.0 I am using IBM LINK software in a DOS session of OS/2 2.0. It works fine untilI try to download files. I try to do an ALT+Esc to get to the DOS session but it takes me to the Presentation Manager screen. I changed the DOS SETTINGS KBD_CTRL_BYPASS to ALT+Esc. That doesn't make any difference. The program works fine on a DOS system. Are there other changes I have to make? Is there a fix for this? I am using a PS/2 90 with 12 MB RAM and a 161 hard drive. Thanks for your help. Greg Steiner ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:30:33 on 92/09/02 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Subject: IBMLINK under 2.0 Ref: Append at 16:04:22 on 92/09/01 GMT (by IL78686 at OS2CUST) You probably need to set your KBD_CTRL_BYPASS to CTRL+Esc, not ATL+Esc. Which software are you using? Is it INPCS-HPO? If so, then you can also use Ctrl-` (the key to the left of "1") to switch to the DOS "session". You can then use Ctrl-1 to switch back to host session 1. Brent Allen - IBM LAN Systems Integration Services Southlake, TX ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:54:24 on 92/09/02 GMT (by STGA049 at OS2CUST) Subject: tagging items for download I reviewed several items, tagged a few, reviewed some more, tagged some others. When I went to download the tagged items, I was surprised that only the last group of tagged items appeared for selection. This occurred in the database manager bulletin board. Prior to today, this worked like others--tagged items accumulated for download during the os2bbs session, and could be downloaded at any time. Once marked for download and download was attempted (successful or not), the marked items were deleted from download list. I use both the method of tagging from inside the item, as well as picking multiple items from menu list. What changed? Why? I prefer the session-accumulation protocol from a work-flo w point-of-view. Paula Reith, Ga Dept of Corrections ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 17:05:19 on 92/09/02 GMT (by U229858 at OS2CUST) Subject: os/2 codepage Does os/2 V2 support codepage 819 (ISO CODEPAGE 8859/1)? If it does how can I unload the required modules from the installation diskettes? Richard Brown Dow Chemical ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 19:48:39 on 92/09/02 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Subject: tagging items for download Ref: Append at 15:54:24 on 92/09/02 GMT (by STGA049 at OS2CUST) No recent changes have been made that might cause tagged items to disappear and the system design wasn't changed. I agree with you that the session-accumulation is the better way to go and that is how it's supposed to work. There appears to be an intermittent bug here. I've been testing several combinations of tagging items and for the most part it seems to work. However, I have run into a couple of instances where things disappeared off of the list for no apparent reason. Can't say for sure what's happening because I haven't found the right combination to recreate the situation consistently. I'll pass this on to the developers to see what input they might have. Please try it again and let us know what you see. If you do see the problem again, please enter an append in the OS2BBS forum. That forum is setup for comments on the BBS itself and the developers monitor that one more closely than the other OS/2 forums like this one. In the mean time, I'll continue testing to see if I can isolate the problem. Brent Allen - IBM LAN Systems Integration Services Southlake, TX ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 20:18:40 on 92/09/02 GMT (by CHVY002 at OS2CUST) Subject: IBM PMHPO I have loaded the new version of PMHPO and have noticed considerable response degredation over the plain DOS HPO environment. IS there anyone out there that has the same problem or that has had the problem and corrected it? As slow as this PM version is I'd rather be running under the DOS HPO. John Zawistowski Systems Prog, Chevy Chase FSB ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 00:28:11 on 92/09/03 GMT (by HNDERSON at AUSVM8) Subject: IBMLINK under 2.0 Ref: Append at 16:04:22 on 92/09/01 GMT (by IL78686 at OS2CUST) Greg, the hot key to switch back to OS/2 is clt-esc, and it is also the hot-key for the emulator. What you need to do is go into the *.def file and change the definition for the emulator hot-key to something else. ex: define a-esc = [pass] will disable emulator hot-key define c-esc = [pass] will disable emulator hot-key the above example will disable those key combination from the emulator and allow them to be used with the OS/2 system. Hope that helps.. Oh by the way the ctlr-1 (not numpad) ctlr-2 etc Will switch you between session and back to DOS window. __ __ ___ __ __ _ _ | |_| | / \ | \| | | |./ / Hank Henderson HNDERSON at AUSVM8 | _ | / _~_ \ Sincerely | . < on Assignment to OS/2 BBS (TEAMOS2) |__| |__| /_/ \_\ |__|\__| |_| \_\ Tie:8-793-8647 Austin, Texas LNK1SM7 @ IBMLINK - OS/2 BBS ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 21:06:26 on 92/09/03 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Subject: IBM PMHPO Ref: Append at 20:18:40 on 92/09/02 GMT (by CHVY002 at OS2CUST) What type and speed processor are you running and at what baud rate? My testing has shown that PMHPO is slower than INPCS-HPO in some cases and faster in others. The primary influence on this is the processor and if other tasks are running in the background. Of course there are the other typical influences of network traffic and reponse time which can vary the download time from session to session even using the same software. Anyway, I just wanted to acknowledge that what you've experienced is possible and that the developers are aware of it. There's been some work going on to improve overall performance but it had not been completed to the degree to which it could have been incorporated in the recent version. That work will continue and as improvements to the code are made and tested, new releases will be made available here on the BBS. Brent Allen - IBM LAN Systems Integration Services Southlake, TX ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 21:26:31 on 92/09/03 GMT (by WZ00755 at OS2CUST) Subject: IBMLINK under 2.0 Ref: Append at 16:04:22 on 92/09/01 GMT (by IL78686 at OS2CUST) Greg, > (IBMLINK) works fine untilI try to download files. I try to do an ALT+Esc to > get to the DOS session but it takes me to the Presentation manager screen. When I was using INPCS to access this BBS, I set up an Icon to invoke IBMLINK.BAT as a Full Screen DOS App in a MVDM. I ran into the same problem you have described and solved it by adding a call to COMMAND.COM at the end of IBMLINK.BAT. BTW, I also had to set KBD_CTRL_BYPASS to ALT_ESC. Let me know if this works or if I can help with further details. Larry W. Flynt - The Rosewood Corporation ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 21:58:28 on 92/09/03 GMT (by IL22993 at OS2CUST) Subject: PMHPO problems (features?) I seem to have a couple of problems with PMHPO. (pease be patient with this message. I can't read much of it due to my monochrome screen. 1) is there a way to have it use basic black & white? Many of my imput fields are all non-display. I have an 8514/A with a 8507 19" monitor. 2) The download feature seems to have problems. The first file received (SHOWTOPC) seems to download fine when I double-click the download icon howevr the subsequent diwnloads all fail with code 3. Host screen shows followin cmmand: IND$FILE GET A :HPFS Z1 When I SHOWTOPC issued: RECEIVE HPFS.ZIP A :HPFS ZIPBIN Z1 ( This does not seem to be correct. I also tried to receive using the pulldown which failed with the same problem. Any suggestions???? I HAVE been able to successfully download with comm manager ascii emulator very reliably but S L O W. I have also been able to sometimes download with PMFTRM but it seems to be very inconsistent. Many times the IND$FILE command seems to start halfway across screen and wrap in the field. and the BBS simpla y ends and says "PC task completed" Any help would be appreciated. Thanks George Clark, Norton Company ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 04:58:15 on 92/09/04 GMT (by IL48722 at OS2CUST) ..... OS2QANDA CFORUM modified at 14:32:02 on 92/09/04 GMT (by IL48722 at OS2CUST) Subject: PMHPO Keyboard Remap? Can I remap the keyboard in PMHPO the way I can in INPCS HPO? For one thing, I really hate the keyboard mapping that's there now. For another, I'd like to add some additional characters. Bob Beilstein, Manugistics, Inc. (315) 458-0723 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:00:00 on 92/09/04 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Subject: PMHPO Keyboard Remap? Ref: Append at 04:58:15 on 92/09/04 GMT (by IL48722 at OS2CUST) Version 1.1 does not allow you to remap the keyboard. Brent Allen - IBM LAN Systems Integration Services Southlake, TX ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 03:43:03 on 92/09/05 GMT (by IL48722 at OS2CUST) Subject: PMHPO Keyboard Remap? Ref: Append at 15:00:00 on 92/09/04 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Bummer... Perhaps Release 2 will allow that, as well as the scripting capability built into INPCS HPO. APL support sure would be useful also! / Bob Bob Beilstein, Manugistics, Inc. (315) 458-0723 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 18:02:32 on 92/09/08 GMT (by X000199 at OS2CUST) Subject: Lan Server 1.3 5015 Servers not geting time from Domain controller I have a 1.3 Lan Server 5015 Domain Controller and two servers. The servers are several minutes behind the domain controller. Even if I change the time on the controller using the net commands the servers don't get the correct time. In the same domain if I reboot the domain controller. I have to relog on one of my servers to get access to several directories on the domain controller. If I don't I get an access denied from the additional server. This is particularly odd since the user on the additional server is an administrator and should not have access denied at any time. Kathy Smith ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 20:14:41 on 92/09/08 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Subject: IBMLINK under 2.0 Ref: Append at 16:04:22 on 92/09/01 GMT (by IL78686 at OS2CUST) Hello Greg, I also am using IBMLINK (DOS version) from OS/2 2.0 and I too had the same problem you did. There is a way to make it work and have the ability to download. The procedure may seem strange but it does work and is easy to use. First make a copy of a DOS window session and rename it to IBMLINK. Open its notebook. You will see that the program name is * don't change it. Open the DOS settings area and find the setting for commamd prompt change the end of this line to /K IBMLINK.BAT (Give full path name) Save the changes. Oh yea you must set the path, on the first page, to the location of IBMLINK. You can also create your own ICON if you like. One last thing, make sure you disable ALT-ESC, so you can switch to the command prompt. Finally when you do a download instead of downloading SHOWBAT.CMD call it SHOWBAT.BAT. The steps do work. If you don't understand just give me a call. Hope it works. Jerry Sitbon (718) 357-4369 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 02:05:09 on 92/09/09 GMT (by WZ00739 at OS2CUST) Subject: Print Screen Ihave a Dos based program called Ease.It uses color graphics to display differe nt values of data.This program runs well in OS2 2.0.I wish to capture the graph ic,edit it,add text to it,and print it in color.I realize that the drivers for my deskjet500c are forthcoming and would like tolearn how to do thisnow.Ihave heard there is a print screen capability in OS2. Help? WZ00739 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:58:31 on 92/09/09 GMT (by TCC3961 at OS2CUST) Subject: Running out of Memory when viewing icons I keep running across one problem that I can reproduce at will. If I use the "Drives" utility to look at files, and go into a directory with a lot of icons, then the drives utility displays those icons. However, it does not seem to free up the memory it uses to display those icons after it finishes. In fact, I can go into a directory with a couple hundred icons and it will not display all of them. It will just show some of them as a blank paper. I don't believe it frees up the memory because I start getting out of memory errors immediately afterwards, even after I close down everything I have running. In fact, if I don't shut down quick enough, I can't even do a shutdown successfully. This also happens when I "Find" an icon from the "General" page of an object's setup. So to me, it sounds as if a routine in a DLL that is being used by both processes is not freeing memory. I believe that I have all the latest fixes for 2.0 installed, and the problem still persists. Is there a fix for this that I have not seen? Can anyone else produce this problem, like someone from IBM? Several other people I work with have also come across this problem. Everything is fine once I reboot, but it is an annoyance when you want to change some icons or accidentally go into a directory with a bunch of icons. Craig ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 19:00:44 on 92/09/09 GMT (by SBSTBEG at OS2CUST) Subject: Running out of Memory when viewing icons Ref: Append at 15:58:31 on 92/09/09 GMT (by TCC3961 at OS2CUST) I reproduce this problem more times than I would like. It's almost unbearable on a 386 machine with 10 mb memory. There are two open apars, which I had to find myself, they are PJ03849 and PJ03942. Just a funny note, when I called IBM support to report the problem, the rep I talked to said "It does the same thing on my machine, so it must be allright". Oh well. Bill (loosing my memory <G>) Stephens Bill Stephens ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 22:14:12 on 92/09/09 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST) Subject: Lan Server 1.3 5015 Servers not geting time from Domain controller Ref: Append at 18:02:32 on 92/09/08 GMT (by X000199 at OS2CUST) Kathy, ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I have a 1.3 Lan Server 5015 Domain Controller and two servers. The servers are several minutes behind the domain controller. Even if I change the time on the controller using the net commands the servers don't get the correct time. In the same domain if I reboot the domain controller. I have to relog on one of my servers to get access to several directories on the domain controller. If I don't I get an access denied from the additional server. This is particularly odd since the user on the additional server is an administrator and should not have access denied at any time. Kathy Smith ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The time on an add. server should synchronize with the DC when it is brought up . If the clock on the add. servers then work themselves away from the DC over time, you could try executing the NET TIME /SET command on the add. servers onc e a day or whatever, maybe by using the AT command to shedule the NET TIME comm and. If your want to set the DC to an additional servers clock, you should be able to execute the command NET TIME \\add.servername /SET on the DC from time to time. I have found that if an alias is set to be shared when the server is started, a s opposed to shared only when needed, I have better luck for persistant network connections staying up with out having to issue a NET USE d: /d NET USE d: a lias or logoff/logon whenever a server is restarted. Try setting those alias t o be shared when the server is started, and your access problems may go away. Good luck Mike Long - CARD Iowa State University - PC/LAN Analyst ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 11:17:23 on 92/09/10 GMT (by MMLIR02 at OS2CUST) Subject: PM HPO Problems I'm having a problem with my PM HPO. Everything appears to work correctly, exce pt the font is very large and does not fit in the PM window. I've tried changin g fonts every place in the application and system. Nothing seems to impact the PM HPO font. While everything works, I can not use the application since I can not see some of the fields that I have to enter data into. I can logon and move through the screens as long as I remember how many keystrokes and tabs I need to move to different fields. Is there some base level of system requirement that I need to have installed? I don't get any errors on the install or while in use. Is there any thing I can do to get this working or am I dead in the water until the next release? Dennis Airoldi, MassMutual Life Insurance ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 13:22:57 on 92/09/10 GMT (by BRYAN at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Running out of Memory when viewing icons Ref: Append at 19:00:44 on 92/09/09 GMT (by SBSTBEG at OS2CUST) As I recollect this is a "known" problem with a misleading error message. You are not running out of memory but out of some other resouurce like handles, due to the large number of objects in the folder. The magic number 300 comes to mind as the threshhold for the problem. In any case I try to keep less than 300 objects in a folder in order to avoid the problem. On another point, the resources necessary to display the objects in a folder are not immediately freed whenever the folder is hidden. WPS will keep the objects around for a while so that, when you switch back to the folder, it can be redrawn quickly. You can test this; open the templates folder for the first time after a boot (it will take a while to draw the objects), hide it, open it again (it will redraw very quickly), hide it, go do some other work, open it again (it will probably take a while to redraw). There is a special WPS "ager" thread that manages this. Barry Bryan ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:50:26 on 92/09/10 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) Subject: Running out of Memory when viewing icons Ref: Append at 15:58:31 on 92/09/09 GMT (by TCC3961 at OS2CUST) At least part of your problem is (I think) a limitation built in to the 16-bit GRE. My understanding is that there is a limit to the number of graphic handles (for icons and etc.) available. So if you try to open folders with lots of bitmaps, some of them will be shown as data-file icons. This limit is greatly increased with the 32-bit GRE (coming soon, I hope). Nathan Davis ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 19:30:15 on 92/09/10 GMT (by X000199 at OS2CUST) Subject: Information from PSTAT I need an explanation of the pstat output. When I run it I see all processes are blocked except the pstat and a thread under a service that is an OS/2 application SQL Server. I ran Pstat to help determine why the SQL Server application crashes. After a crash the SQL Server service shows up with a state of "zombie". Is it normal to have nearly all of the processes show up as blocked. Kathy Smith ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:08:54 on 92/09/11 GMT (by CHVY002 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS2BBS vs. Compuserv IBM personnel please answer this! Why is it Compuserv gets more info and more fixes posted than this BBS? It seems that it isn't worth using IBMLINK anymore and I should concetrate on a Compuserv ID instead. I thought IBM wanted to generate revenue not turn it away. We pay for Sofware Excell Extended and I'm the tech coordinator for OS/2 so I use the OS2bbs but this doesn't even seem to be the IBM forum of choice. What's going on?????? John Zawistowski Systems Prog, Chevy Chase FSB ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 00:58:28 on 92/09/12 GMT (by VA06582 at OS2CUST) Subject: CONFIG.SYS settings and the effect of changes therein. We can't seem to find decent documentation on several settings in the CONFIG.SY S file. So, I thought I'd ask a couple of items here. 1) DISKCACHE= for FAT drives, right? Does this include floppies? 2) What's are the effectivities of the BUFFERS= statement and the CACHE parm on the HPFS IFS statement? How do they differ/compare? Any insights would be appreciated. %:-> Bill Pier @ Hughes Aircraft, Fullerton, CA ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 20:57:21 on 92/09/13 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) Subject: XR06050 --- ? One of the OS/2 2.0 APARs that I am tracking now references XR06050 as the fix. This fix is still in transit. Will this be the name by which the Service Pack can be ordered or? I have placed this fix on my AST for notification of updates under IBMLink and hope if it is the service pack update that it will be available in the near future. Lionel Dyck - Rockwell International, Information Systems Center ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 20:26:03 on 92/09/14 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Subject: PM HPO Problems Ref: Append at 11:17:23 on 92/09/10 GMT (by MMLIR02 at OS2CUST) On a standard installation of OS/2, you should be able to choose between the System Monospace and Courier fonts. If you want something small, select Courier as your font then resize the window to something smaller by grabbing the window border and dragging it with button 1. You may need to move the window off to one side so you can grab the side border and resize the window. The System Monospace (Normal) should all fit within the window, but on a VGA system it is the same width as the desktop so you have to center it right on the desktop to see the whole thing. Brent Allen - IBM LAN Systems Integration Services Southlake, TX ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 20:28:31 on 92/09/14 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Subject: OS2BBS vs. Compuserv IBM personnel please answer this! Ref: Append at 15:08:54 on 92/09/11 GMT (by CHVY002 at OS2CUST) I am the IBM'er who distributes fixes (from Boca) out of Boca. I should qualify as the IBM personnel that should answer this one I guess. I am the person who assembles the fixes that I get and distribute it usually in this order. First to the IBM Internal Tools disk, then via VM to the SYSOP's of the various External BBS's, and lastly to CIS, which I then release to be downloaded. All files sent to the SYSOP's of the external boards need to be placed on the BBS's and made public by the SYSOP's. Some possible reasons for what you 'think' are differences. First, I work CIS on weekends and evenings, so there could be a few days delay in some cases, or delays can be cuased by the internal IBM VNET holding large files. One specific set of fixes, the PRINTER DRIVERS, I can comment on directly as I was stymied by this one myself. Not all files from IBM'er are placed on CIS by me or even Boca IBM'ers. The PRINTER DRIVERS were placed on CIS by a Boca IBM'er and he then went on vacation. Some vital APAR data was missing (from CIS too) and I waited until I had everything to send it out to others AFTER I GOT IT (1 week later). REXX fixes are not uploaded by Boca. If the CIS ID associated with any CIS upload is 76711,175, then I did it. If the same file is NOT HERE, send a note to the SYSOP, as either they did NOT upload it, or I did not send it (I'm human, I make mistakes <G>). I assure you, this BBS, and every other, are handled the same way. Irv Spalten BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL CompuServe IBMOS2 and OS2DEV SYSOP, CIS ID 76711,175 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 12:06:08 on 92/09/15 GMT (by HARGRAVE at BCRVMPC1) ..... OS2QANDA CFORUM modified at 12:23:06 on 92/09/15 GMT (by HARGRAVE at BCRVMPC1) Subject: XR06050 --- ? Ref: Append at 20:57:21 on 92/09/13 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) XR06050 is the first Service Pak for OS/2 2.0. BJ Hargrave ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 12:54:36 on 92/09/15 GMT (by IL48722 at OS2CUST) Subject: What does "TRS" mean? While looking through some recent APARs, I noticed what appears to be yet another new acronym. In several places, I saw the phrase "Defect TRSed". So tell me, what's a "TRS" (I think I understand the other term quite well<g>)?? Thanks! Bob Beilstein, Manugistics, Inc. (315) 458-0723 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 13:42:22 on 92/09/15 GMT (by V$IPAULD at BCRVMPC1) Subject: What does "TRS" mean? Ref: Append at 12:54:36 on 92/09/15 GMT (by IL48722 at OS2CUST) TRS stands for Temporary ReStriction. However, the actual meaning of "temporary" may typically not be found in any common dictionary ! The normal useage is TRS until some future release. Paul Devriendt ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 13:46:29 on 92/09/15 GMT (by RDSMITH at AUSVM1) Subject: What does "TRS" mean? Ref: Append at 12:54:36 on 92/09/15 GMT (by IL48722 at OS2CUST) 'TRS' means that the incident reported in the APAR has been classified as a temporary restriction. This means that we acknowledge that this is a defect, but that we do not intend to fix it immediately. This could be for several reasons, the most likely that either it is a low severity problem and the programmers who know this code have more critical defects to correct, or that the fix is known, but has unknown side effects that have to be resolved prior to delivering the fix. Fixes for TRS APARs may be delivered in a service pack. If they are not, then they must be addressed prior to the next release of the product, either as a fix, an acknowledgement that they continue to be a temporary restriction, or some other valid closing code. Roy Smith IBM Personal Systems Programming Austin ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 14:52:13 on 92/09/15 GMT (by ABLI001 at OS2CUST) Subject: What does "TRS" mean? Ref: Append at 13:46:29 on 92/09/15 GMT (by RDSMITH at AUSVM1) Aha, "fixed in next release", UR1, DOC, WAD! How come IBM keeps on coming up with new names for the same thing? More specifically, why does the PC division feel that they have to reinvent everything? CSD and service pack instead of levelset and VRM refresh? Threads and processes instead of tasks and jobs. System/lan administrator or technical coordinator instead of system programmer. Kernel instead of nucleus. Boot instead of IPL. Even their own seperate BBS's instead of one for all IBM products (actually VSE already had one run by Scott Cubic, semi-officially...not available here on IBMLink). It would seem that IBM with all the management levels and resources could at least use the best techniques already invented and speak the same language for all products when doing the same function. ->Rich Corbett; ABC Liquors, Inc., Orlando, FL (NASPA: CORBRIC7) ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 20:25:55 on 92/09/15 GMT (by CNADLER at WMAVM1) Subject: What does "TRS" mean? Ref: Append at 14:52:13 on 92/09/15 GMT (by ABLI001 at OS2CUST) But whose language? UNIX has always has processes, kernels, and other terms which are today in use by OS/2. The workstation market uses a different terminology for the same thing that the mainframe folks use. Since OS/2 is positioned for the workstation market, it should be using that market's terminology. Cliff Nadler GO TEAM OS/2! Systems Integration and Services Rockville, MD IBM Federal Systems Company PROFS: NADLER at WMAVM7 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 03:36:27 on 92/09/16 GMT (by WZ00797 at OS2CUST) Subject: CD Rom Support for os2 I recently purchased a Chinon CDS-431 CD Rom reader. I have it installed with a Chinon SCSI card which will allow me to daisy chain other SCSI devices if I desire. I tried use the CD Rom reader in an OS2 DOS window. It did not work so I called Chinon and ask if they had any OS2 CD Rom drivers, they reccomended the Adaptec card. My question is will this Adaptec card have SCSI drivers that will work with OS2 and if it does is it possible to daisy chain SCSI devices (I would like to add an external hard drive to my system someday) in OS2? I realize I will probably hsve to use the DOS window for now, but is CD Rom support in the picture for OS2 in the near future? and if it is will IBM distribute a list of compatiable sound cards? P.S. Is there there a an OS2 2.0 upgrade due out soon? and how does IBM plan to distribute it? Cami Stusinski Portland OR ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 20:28:38 on 92/09/16 GMT (by BCHI052 at OS2CUST) Subject: Entry Field Cursor Positioning How can the cursor be placed at the beginning of an entry field? I am developing an application which uses a dialog box with entry fields. The high level language I am using does not allow me to do this. The vendor told me that this was the way Presentation Manager handles entry fields. Gerald Sasaoka - Hawaii Medical Service Association ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 03:11:40 on 92/09/17 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Subject: OS2BBS vs. Compuserv IBM personnel please answer this! Ref: Append at 20:28:31 on 92/09/14 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Irv, how is PMFTERM handled? I downloaded it from CIS, couldn't find it on the Toronto IBM BBS. Lately, I looked for the upgrade that was mentioned on another fora. I'm also wondering where I'll find the new drivers for MMPM/2. What is the time lag on the IBM BBS, verses CIS? Also, why do these things have to be on a separate BBS, why can't they be on the LINK. We download other things, from the TOOLS disk? Elliott M. Avedon University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1 (519) 885-1211 x2204 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 03:16:54 on 92/09/17 GMT (by HNDERSON at AUSVM8) Subject: What does "TRS" mean? Ref: Append at 12:54:36 on 92/09/15 GMT (by IL48722 at OS2CUST) Bob, it means: TEMPORARY RESTRICTION for the current release BUT will be considered for a future release. __ __ ___ __ __ _ _ | |_| | / \ | \| | | |./ / Hank Henderson HNDERSON at AUSVM8 | _ | / _~_ \ Sincerely | . < Staff OSS to OS/2 BBS (TEAMOS2) |__| |__| /_/ \_\ |__|\__| |_| \_\ Tie:8-793-8647 Austin, Texas LNK1SM7 @ IBMLINK - OS/2 BBS ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 03:37:28 on 92/09/17 GMT (by HNDERSON at AUSVM8) Subject: What does "TRS" mean? Ref: Append at 14:52:13 on 92/09/15 GMT (by ABLI001 at OS2CUST) Rich, just a little background, I started out back in 1961 trained by USAF(IBM instructors) Unit Record Equipment (does any one remember?). Received programming training (USAF by IBM). Went to work at a large Aerospace Co. in St. Louis as System operator, Lead Operator, System Programmer, have learned 14+ programming languages. Based on that 30+ years I have been in the field, I feel that I've grown up in the business. Everthing goes thru changes-- languages, perception, math, etc. etc. the only thing that has not changed is that it is all just 1 & 0" would you prefer that we go back to machine language? I think I remember how to add/subtract hex but I'd have to work at divide and multiply. __ __ ___ __ __ _ _ | |_| | / \ | \| | | |./ / Hank Henderson HNDERSON at AUSVM8 | _ | / _~_ \ Sincerely | . < Staff OSS to OS/2 BBS (TEAMOS2) |__| |__| /_/ \_\ |__|\__| |_| \_\ Tie:8-793-8647 Austin, Texas LNK1SM7 @ IBMLINK - OS/2 BBS ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 05:00:07 on 92/09/17 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: What does "TRS" mean? Ref: Append at 03:16:54 on 92/09/17 GMT (by HNDERSON at AUSVM8) So in plain language, it is an unfixed bug but maybe they fix it. <g> Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 NHO-32 801-7th Ave Calgary, Alberta, CANADA T2P 2N6 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 10:24:21 on 92/09/17 GMT (by DALNK03 at OS2CUST) Subject: Entry Field Cursor Positioning Ref: Append at 20:28:38 on 92/09/16 GMT (by BCHI052 at OS2CUST) You didn't say which high level language you are using, but if you can send the entry field an EM_SETSEL message, with both parameters as 0, that will position the cursor at the beginning: WinSendMsg (hwndField, EM_SETSEL, 0L, 0L); Hope this helps. Pat Malneritch, Delta Air Lines ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 12:19:04 on 92/09/17 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Subject: OS2BBS vs. Compuserv IBM personnel please answer this! Ref: Append at 03:11:40 on 92/09/17 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Elliott, I send all files via an EXEC at the same time to all BBS's that I am aware of at the same time INTERNALLY via VM to the identified SYSOPs for the individual EXTERNAL boards. For Canada, they go to one ID, and they receive the files, and then place them on thier systems. I personally place the files on CIS, usually immediately after making them available to IBM'ers internally and sending them across the VNET. I would suspect that if a fix were made available before 4PM (CIS does not allow files to be made public between 5 PM and 3 AM) a fix could appear on CIS first. All this is tempered by the individual SYSOP's and the speed they get the fixes up. Ask the SYSOP's what happened. I have no control over that. Irv Spalten BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 14:39:04 on 92/09/17 GMT (by IL87260 at OS2CUST) Subject: MIcroGrafx Draw Has anyone found a problem printing Micrografx draw files from winos2 in the seamless. I am running os/2 2.0 on a model 90 dx2 w/ 16megs of RAM and printing to an HP III with 3 megs. I get garbage, and sometimes a part of the image. I had experienced a similiar problem with AMI pro, but I changed the printe r driver. If any can help, please do.. Michael Vollmer, Dean Witter Reynolds, NYC ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 00:11:44 on 92/09/18 GMT (by IL06950 at OS2CUST) Subject: No Text Insertion with PMHPO 1.1 Although my PS/2 <Ins> key indicates 3270 Insert Mode by switching the cursor from an "underscore" to a "block" in PMHPO 1.1, the newly entered characters just overtype any existing text. Is this happening only to me? Bill Soong, Univ of Hawaii Comp Ctr ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 11:10:34 on 92/09/18 GMT (by MMLIR02 at OS2CUST) Subject: PM HPO Problems Ref: Append at 20:26:03 on 92/09/14 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) I have tried all your suggestions and none of them have any impact on PMHPO. I' m running a pure IBM VGA system. Am I the only one reporting this type of probl em?????? I will try re-installing PMHPO once I get the 3.1 beta version next we ek. At that point I have to format and re-install so the system should be perfe ctly clean. I'll install the complete system to make sure I have anything that PMHPO requires. Until then I guess I have a useless piece of software. Thanks f or the suggestions. I was hoping that some else had reported the problem and a fix was available. Dennis Airoldi, MassMutual Life Insurance ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 13:10:15 on 92/09/18 GMT (by CHVY002 at OS2CUST) Subject: Sony CD-ROM support I have run into a problem trying to load the proper device drivers for my new Sony CD-ROM drive. The drive has a propriatary interface card. In order to get the system to recognize the drive it requires you to add their device driver to the config.sys file, which I did successfully. The problem is that they require the addition of a line in the autoexec.bat file that runs an EXE file that assigns the CD-ROM drive a drive letter. Is there any way to load this EXE file during or after boot up so that the system will recongnize the CD-ROM as avalid drive? John Zawistowski Systems Prog, Chevy Chase FSB ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:04:05 on 92/09/18 GMT (by PNWB016 at OS2CUST) Subject: No Text Insertion with PMHPO 1.1 Ref: Append at 00:11:44 on 92/09/18 GMT (by IL06950 at OS2CUST) Bill: It doesn't work for me either. (I'm trying what you said right now.) I end up getting an extra character added to the right of the block cursor and characters on the left disappear. Sounds like a problem in PMHPO. Wayne ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 18:33:22 on 92/09/18 GMT (by IL44027 at OS2CUST) Subject: Problem with OS/2 2.0 running DOS application I am running Crosstalk communications software under a DOS full screen session setup to upload barcode numbers from a scanner. In the initialization process and for the first 10 to 15 numbers,the program runs very sluggishly and then runs fast,slows in the middle of the upload and then goes fast again until the upload is complete. The session has been intermittently locking up and the DOS session must be shut down and restarted with the hope that the program might work the next try. It usually does work on the second try. This application works fine under DOS 5.0 and was working fine under OS/2 1.3. I have tried increasing the number of files under that session but had no change. Any idea what the problem might be?? Dale Radspinner, Simco Electronics, Inc. (713)483-3574 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 13:47:36 on 92/09/19 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Problem with OS/2 2.0 running DOS application Ref: Append at 18:33:22 on 92/09/18 GMT (by IL44027 at OS2CUST) Try setting some DOS settings in the VDM. Open the settings, go to the second page, set IDLE_SENSIVITY to 100 and IDLE_SECONDS to 16 or so, that should help. This information on some other things to try is in the latest OS2TND.ZIP available here. Irv Spalten BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 22:49:30 on 92/09/19 GMT (by HNDERSON at AUSVM8) Subject: IBM partication in the CFROUM Ref: Various appends by IBMer I strongly recommend that all IBMer take time to READ THE HEADERS of THIS AND ALL OTHER CFORUMs. This Cforum and all other Cforums are for Customers to ask questions offer views, suggestion, etc. TO other customers, and to IBMers. They are NOT TO CONTAIN references to IBM Internal USE Only products. They are not to reference IBM INTERNAL minidisk that are not available to customers. They are not to contain reference to unannounced products. __ __ ___ __ __ _ _ | |_| | / \ | \| | | |./ / Hank Henderson HNDERSON at AUSVM8 | _ | / _~_ \ Sincerely | . < Staff OSS to OS/2 BBS (TEAMOS2) |__| |__| /_/ \_\ |__|\__| |_| \_\ Tie:8-793-8647 Austin, Texas LNK1SM7 @ IBMLINK - OS/2 BBS ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 18:28:43 on 92/09/20 GMT (by LNK1SM3 at MARTLINK) Subject: Problem with OS/2 2.0 running DOS application Ref: Append at 18:33:22 on 92/09/18 GMT (by IL44027 at OS2CUST) One thing I have found is in DOS Setting to set the COM_HOLD seting to 'on' this help with some the problems I have run into. But if you set the IDLE_SENSITIVITY to poll higher this should help. Joseph Moagvero ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 18:37:00 on 92/09/20 GMT (by LNK1SM3 at MARTLINK) Subject: PM HPO Problems Ref: Append at 11:10:34 on 92/09/18 GMT (by MMLIR02 at OS2CUST) For the sake of my sanity, would all problems with PMHPO please be posted on the OS2BBS CFORUM it would make tracking down problems a lot faster. Thanks to all out there. Joseph Moagvero ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 18:40:23 on 92/09/20 GMT (by LNK1SM3 at MARTLINK) Subject: No Text Insertion with PMHPO 1.1 Ref: Append at 16:04:05 on 92/09/18 GMT (by PNWB016 at OS2CUST) I can repeat this porblem I am working on this problem as I write this please stay tuned to the OS2BBS for any details about this. Joseph Mogavero ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 22:05:15 on 92/09/20 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Subject: OS2BBS vs. Compuserv IBM personnel please answer this! Ref: Append at 12:19:04 on 92/09/17 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Thanks for your reply. I've been trying to find out who to talk to at the Canadian BBS, but all I keep getting is phone numbers related to the LINK. My SE has promised to come to the rescue :) Elliott M. Avedon University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1 (519) 885-1211 x2204 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 01:49:50 on 92/09/21 GMT (by IL41468 at HONE84) Subject: Problem with OS/2 2.0 running DOS application Ref: Append at 18:33:22 on 92/09/18 GMT (by IL44027 at OS2CUST) Dale, There are a number of different settings that could be tried. I no nothing about Crosstalk but worked wuth some oldball programs under OS/2 using Async. First (and this applies to any DOS VDM program) if you are not using DPMI, EMS or XMS memory extenders set DPMI_MEMORY_LIMIT, EMS_MEMORY_LIMIT, XMS_MEMORY_LIMIT to 0. This improves the perform of the DOS virtual. Second, try setting HW_TIMER on this works but if you set it on for more than one DOS VDM, I have seen reports of oddities. The last is something I have seen with DOS programs that 'poll' the keyboard. Sometimes the keyboard buffer has in it more data than the DOS keyboard buffer supported. The programs pulls out the normal number of bytes of the regular DOS keyboard buffer (I can't remeber the number) and then fails to find the additional data until later. Sometime seconds and sometimes minutes. I cured this by setting KBD_BUFFER_EXTENDED to off. Try these and see if they help. J. M. Schaeffer ("John" AIMS Sandy, Utah) ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 03:58:54 on 92/09/21 GMT (by IL41468 at HONE86) Subject: Problem with OS/2 2.0 running DOS application Ref: Append at 01:49:50 on 92/09/21 GMT (by IL41468 at HONE84) Dale, I ran across some additional information. If you are running Crosstalk Windows, OS/2 tips and techniques suggest you enter: MODE COMx BUFFER=OFF at the command prompt before running the program. OS/2 tips and techniques is a good source of DOS settings and other random data. It is on this BBS for download. You use VIEW to scan it. J. M. Schaeffer ("John" AIMS Sandy, Utah) ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 11:11:42 on 92/09/21 GMT (by MMLIR02 at OS2CUST) Subject: PM HPO Problems Ref: Append at 18:37:00 on 92/09/20 GMT (by LNK1SM3 at MARTLINK) I'd love to help save your sanity, but I don't see any CFORUM on my OS2BBS. Is it only available to you IBMers? Dennis Airoldi, MassMutual Life Insurance ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 11:25:42 on 92/09/21 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE81) Subject: PM HPO Problems Ref: Append at 11:11:42 on 92/09/21 GMT (by MMLIR02 at OS2CUST) Dennis, What he requested was that all posts on PMHPO be posted to the forum called OS2BBS. And it is available to customers. Look at the short names. Jack Hiatt Marc Life Atlanta Ga. ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 12:34:35 on 92/09/21 GMT (by V$I00241 at PKMFGVM3) Subject: PM HPO Problems Ref: Append at 11:25:42 on 92/09/21 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE81) I am having trouble changing the ICON text in minimized icons on the desktop. With the SCHEME program I can change the color of the icon text on all the folders on the desktop. However this doesn't change the color of the icon text on the minimized programs. I have looked at all the options on the SCHEME program and don't see one that deals with minimized icon text. This is annoying as I want to set the background color of the desktop to black which wipes out the black text in the minimized icons. Does anyone know how to change that text? Roland Beauregard ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 14:08:25 on 92/09/21 GMT (by MMLIR02 at OS2CUST) Subject: PM HPO Problems Ref: Append at 11:25:42 on 92/09/21 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE81) Thanks. I was a little confused by the statement. Strange but if he would have said it in reverse order I would ahve understood perfectly. Oh well.... Thanks again. Dennis Airoldi, MassMutual Life Insurance ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 14:44:19 on 92/09/21 GMT (by PERSHNG at YKTVMH) Subject: PM HPO Problems Ref: Append at 11:11:42 on 92/09/21 GMT (by MMLIR02 at OS2CUST) That's internal nomenclature. You see, most of us IBMers don't have the slightest idea what view you customers have of this cross-cultural BBS. From the IBM side, it is grafted onto our internal BBS system (which is called "IBMPC") in a totally seamless manner, except that the various discussion lists have a (CMS) filetype of 'CFORUM' (for "Customer FORUM") rather than the usual 'FORUM'. So, the 'CFORUM' that Joseph was referring to was simply the (CMS) filetype of the shared (with you customers) 'OS2BBS' discussion list. (It is *so* seamless from the IBM side that it is hard to remember that these discussion lists are shared with customers -- see the recent deluge of appends by Hank Henderson.) John A. Pershing Jr. ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 18:38:33 on 92/09/21 GMT (by IL21815 at OS2CUST) Subject: Losing ICON's When starting up their systems, I have some of my users losing their icons. These are user icons, they get a message to hold down the pf1 key for 20 seconds. I see there are many questions about this problem, is there some type of fix to solve the case of the missing icons ? Mike Amentt ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 14:13:35 on 92/09/23 GMT (by DALNK03 at OS2CUST) Subject: Fix breaks Folders After installing the following fixes: os2krnl hpfs rexx20 somfix then installing Lan Requester, Extended Services, or the Programmer's toolkit, the folders are created but are not populated with the applications. I think the problem is probably with the os2krnl fix, but does anybody know for sure which one causes the problem. This has happened on a model 90 and a model 80 both formatted with HPFS. Thanks for any help. Pat Malneritch, Delta Air Lines ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 14:59:47 on 92/09/23 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Fix breaks Folders Ref: Append at 14:13:35 on 92/09/23 GMT (by DALNK03 at OS2CUST) Two to one odds it is the SOMFIX, back it out, it breaks migration, and I am awaiting an OS2KRNL it needs to work correctly. Irv Spalten BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:21:38 on 92/09/23 GMT (by USBC238 at OS2CUST) Subject: Screaming PC After 6 months of using OS/2 2.0 on a PS/2 mod 70, a user has suddenly come up with a case of the screaming PC. Randomly, if not using for a few minutes or as long as a few hours, the speaker starts to emit a high pitch whine or scream. At first it seemed related to the locker, but we disabled it and the problem still occours. All the various fixes have been applied, and there has been no hardware changes to the PC. The only difference seems to be time. Has anyone had this problem? If so how did you stop it? Luckley, ctrl-alt-del can break it, but if the locker has been enabled and activated, the only way out is to power down and do the chkdsk /f:3 thing.... Charles Boyce - US Bank, Portland OR ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:40:54 on 92/09/23 GMT (by XXNOVA01 at TORVMCOP) Subject: READ/2 on Compaq 486/33M I'm not sure where this should really be filed but, has anyone tried to get BookManager READ/2 working on a Compaq? When I try to launch it, I get a message that Courier.FON is missing or damaged. A PS/2-70 that is nearly identical has no problem. READ/2 has the latest CSD, and the font file has been replaced by a copy of the one from the PS/2. Any suggestions appreciated. Perci Hala Nova Corp ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:58:33 on 92/09/23 GMT (by IL41468 at HONE81) Subject: Fix breaks Folders Ref: Append at 14:13:35 on 92/09/23 GMT (by DALNK03 at OS2CUST) Pat: Had the same problem. Had the same fixes. I tried various combinations of removing fixes. The one that work was keeping all others on and removing SOMFIX. Since then I have notice various appends saying there is a problem in SOMFIX, don't use it. J. M. Schaeffer ("John" AIMS Sandy, Utah) ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 17:00:01 on 92/09/23 GMT (by CNADLER at WMAVM1) Subject: Screaming PC Ref: Append at 16:21:38 on 92/09/23 GMT (by USBC238 at OS2CUST) What programs are normally being run on the machine? The Enhanced Editor uses a beep to tell you that it is running out of memory and that you should close something before you get the "Out of memory" dialog. Cliff Nadler GO TEAM OS/2! Systems Integration and Services Rockville, MD IBM Federal Systems Company PROFS: NADLER at WMAVM7 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 17:10:32 on 92/09/23 GMT (by USBC238 at OS2CUST) Subject: Screaming PC Ref: Append at 17:00:01 on 92/09/23 GMT (by CNADLER at WMAVM1) Here's the config: PS/2 Mod 70 16MB Ram, AOX 486/33 processor board, and 120 MB Drive. Applications being run are: Clock, Pulse, PMGlobe, 4 Host sessions using ES Comm Manager, Micro Focus Workbench, PMDDiary, To-Do, Calendar, C Compiler, Alarms, a home built messaging system, LAN Requester, database manager, a custom telephone book, and minimized window viewer and drives are open and on the desktop. This person usually runs with a 14MB swap file. Up until 2 weeks ago every thing worked fine (an occasional lockup, but we expect that with our 2.0 experiences). One morning, when the user came in the system was screaming, and now it happens once or more daily. Nothing has changed... Charles Boyce - US Bank, Portland OR ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 17:37:41 on 92/09/23 GMT (by CNADLER at WMAVM1) Subject: Screaming PC Ref: Append at 17:10:32 on 92/09/23 GMT (by USBC238 at OS2CUST) Hmm. Don't see anything on the list that I've heard of problems with. Obviously, something did change on this setup, but it may be one of those "Oh, I forgot about that" type changes. The best I can suggest at this point is to not run some of the applications (one at a time) to see if they help. Also, a log should be kept of EXACTLY what the user was doing when the screaming started. This may find some common area to explore. As an aside (as I've had to debug these type problems before), I've started to get very religious about commenting any changes to the CONFIG.SYS and STARTUP.CMD files. This helps understand when I've changed something, and also allows me to back out changes much more easily. You might suggest this (until a CONFIG.SYS editor that does it automatically) comes about. Cliff Nadler GO TEAM OS/2! Systems Integration and Services Rockville, MD IBM Federal Systems Company PROFS: NADLER at WMAVM7 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 20:32:11 on 92/09/23 GMT (by PER518 at OS2CUST) Subject: Workset/2 pricing Has the special on the workset expired ? Eric Ilsley ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 14:00:46 on 92/09/25 GMT (by DALNK03 at OS2CUST) Subject: Fix breaks Folders Ref: Append at 16:58:33 on 92/09/23 GMT (by IL41468 at HONE81) Thanks, everybody for the tip. I backed off SOMFIX, and it seems like it was the culprit. Pat Malneritch, Delta Air Lines ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:18:32 on 92/09/25 GMT (by WZ00801 at OS2CUST) Subject: Beta of 32bit GRE/WinOS2 3.1 Is the 800 number the only way to apply for the 32bit GRE/Winos2 3.1 beta, or is it possible to request it here? What shipping is used to send the disks? Someone told me they got it UPS air, but he thinks it's because he also ordered some other betas or something. Sean Camanyag ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 03:42:15 on 92/09/26 GMT (by HOPKINS at AUSVM8) Subject: Beta of 32bit GRE/WinOS2 3.1 Ref: Append at 15:18:32 on 92/09/25 GMT (by WZ00801 at OS2CUST) See the header of this CFORUM, and the News and Announcements post regarding 32-bit Graphics Engine Beta Test for acquisition choices. Ken Hopkins, OS/2 Software Service and Support ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 20:21:55 on 92/09/28 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) Subject: Microchannel SCSI adapter for OS/2 Does anybody know of a Microchannel SCSI adapter that is half-size which works with OS/2 2.0? Thanks. Tracy K. Pipkin - Amoco Production Company - Houston, TX - (713) 596-7720 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 21:21:36 on 92/09/28 GMT (by SYKES at ATLSER) Subject: Microchannel SCSI adapter for OS/2 Ref: Append at 20:21:55 on 92/09/28 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) Trantor (who also has the printer port SCSI) makes a 1/2 card MC SCSI host. They have OS/2 drivers on their BBS, but I would call them and confirm first. Bill Sykes PROFS: ATLVM10(SYKES) IBMMAIL: USIB14BG Internet: Sykes@atlvm10.vnet.ibm.com From: SYKES at ATLSER ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 02:42:30 on 92/09/29 GMT (by WZ00795 at OS2CUST) Subject: PM HPO and PM terminal On both PM HPO and PM terminal the screen goes off the right side and there are spaces I can't see. I can't find any ability to shrink the display to fit my screen or alternatively to run in full screen mode. Thomas Voltaggio ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:05:54 on 92/09/29 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Subject: PM HPO and PM terminal Ref: Append at 02:42:30 on 92/09/29 GMT (by WZ00795 at OS2CUST) Are you running on a VGA system? If so, on VGA systems the System Monospace font in Bold will extend beyond the right edge of the screen. You'll need to select System Monospace - Normal or Courier. Brent Allen - IBM LAN Systems Integration Services Southlake, TX ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 18:42:38 on 92/09/29 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) Subject: LS20FX & LS13FX fixes Irv, I'm still confused! I have an OS/2 2.0 system networked to an OS/2 1.3 (and LAN Server 1.3) server. What fix do I use on my OS/2 2.0 Requester? Tracy K. Pipkin - Amoco Production Company - Houston, TX - (713) 596-7720 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 21:59:35 on 92/09/29 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 2.0 Performance Does anybody know why the performance on an IBM PS/2 Model 70-A21 is soooooo much slower than compared to the same machine running OS/2 EE 1.3. I don't seem to notice this slowness problem with OS/2 2.0 run on an IBM PS/2 Model 70-A16. The only difference that I'm aware of is the hard disk. The A16 being a SCSI and the A21 is ESDI. Are there any known problems with the IBM PS/2 Model 70-A21? Thanks for any assistance. Tracy K. Pipkin - Amoco Production Company - Houston, TX - (713) 596-7720 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 22:11:18 on 92/09/29 GMT (by R3VMMSG at RALVMJ) Subject: READ/2 on Compaq 486/33M Ref: Append at 16:40:54 on 92/09/23 GMT (by XXNOVA01 at TORVMCOP) Perci, Unfortunately, copying a new font file won't work -- even back in OS/2 V1 days, you have to go through "Selective Install" to define the fonts to the system. It isn't too hard, actually, and it keeps the font files from getting out of synch. Here is the process: 1) Select the "OS/2 System" icon, then "System Setup", then "Selective Install". 2) From the "System Configuration" window, don't change anything about your mouse or keyboard, just click the "OK" pushbutton. 3) From the big "OS/2 Setup and Installation" window, check off 'Fonts' (the 3rd) and click the "MORE" pushbutton to the right of 'Fonts'. 4) The "Fonts" window lets you choose which fonts to install--make sure all of them are checked! Then click the "OK" pushbutton. You'll be prompted to insert Install Diskettes (I think 6 to 11). It took me a few minutes to get everything loaded. When I re-booted, everything worked well with BookManager, IBM Library Reader, and OS/2 V2. Robert Luehrs NetView Hypertext Information Development RTP, NC ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 22:28:53 on 92/09/29 GMT (by Z77JAC at BETASVM2) Subject: OS/2 2.0 Performance Ref: Append at 21:59:35 on 92/09/29 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) Some factors which influence OS2 2.0 speed: a: Amount of RAM (determines swapping level) b: Organization of Fixed Disk (HPFS vs FAT). Normally HPFS is faster but FAT may be faster on memory constrained systems. c: Absolute access and transfer time of specific fixed disk installed. A good cacheing system will make a big difference to a slow disk. See DISKCACHE in the Command Reference. d: Processor type and speed (As I recall the A16 is slower than the A21 but this is usually of lesser importance than the first three factors.) e. Amount of free disk space. I don't have any data on SCSI but maybe that has something to do with your performance problems. I dig and see if I can find any SCSI performance info. Jerry Case, TEAMOS2, Bethesda ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 23:39:46 on 92/09/29 GMT (by THRUMD at SYDVM1) Subject: OS/2 2.0 Performance Ref: Append at 21:59:35 on 92/09/29 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) As far as I am aware, the 70-A61 is still ESDI, not SCSI (though the disk is probably a bit faster than the older -A21). Otherwise the two systems should be identical. I am currently using an -A21, and performance is just fine (or maybe I'm tolerant :-) ). Are there any other differences between the A21 and A61? (e.g. memory, fat vs hpfs, disk cache size and parameters, disk partition size etc.) Dave ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 23:45:44 on 92/09/29 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Subject: LS20FX & LS13FX fixes Ref: Append at 18:42:38 on 92/09/29 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) Tracy, For an OS/2 2.0 machine running the LS 2.0 requester code, you'll need the LS20FX files. For the server running LS 1.3 on an OS/2 1.3 EE system, you'll need the LS13FX files. The way I understand it (it IS confusing isn't it?) is that you need to remember what system you're installing on. If that machine is running LS 2.0 (on OS/2 1.3 or 2.0), then you use the LS20FX. If the machine is running OS/2 1.3 EE, then you use LS13FX. The key difference is whether LS 2.0 is running on THAT machine. I hope that helps. Brent Allen - IBM LAN Systems Integration Services Southlake, TX ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 00:29:59 on 92/09/30 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 2.0 Performance Ref: Append at 21:59:35 on 92/09/29 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) Tracy, I beleive that both the A21 and A16 are 25MHz 80386 w/64Kb CPU cache. If you have the same amount of RAM on both systems, I would attribute the performance difference to the fixed disks. The A61 has a 160 MB ESDI/IDE drive with a 16ms average acess time, and 1.5 MB/s transfer rate with a 32KB sector buffer. The A21 has a 120MB drive with a 23ms average access time, 10.2 Mb (thats mega bits) per second, and I assume no sector buffer as none is listed. 10.2Mb/s =~ 1.275 MB/s A 486 Power Platform is not installed is it? If so, that would also account fo r a difference between machines. Mike Long - CARD Iowa State University - PC/LAN Analyst ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 12:31:35 on 92/09/30 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) ..... OS2QANDA CFORUM modified at 13:24:54 on 92/09/30 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 2.0 Performance Ref: Append at 22:28:53 on 92/09/29 GMT (by Z77JAC at BETASVM2) Jerry, Dave, and Mike - <<<<-------------- Correction 8570-A16 NOT SCSI I should have mentioned that both machines are basically the same. System Unit: 8570-A21 8570-A16 CPU Chip: intel 80386 intel 80386 CPU Speed: 25 MHz 25 MHz Memory: 8 Megs 8 Megs Pointing Device: IBM Mouse IBM Mouse Adapters: IBM Token-Ring 16/4A IBM Token-Ring 16/4A Monitor: IBM 8515 IBM 8515 Hard drive: 120 ESDI??? 160 ESDI??? Both systems contain the same software: IBM DOS Version 5.00.1 IBM OS/2 Version 2.00 (with some fixes) IBM Extended Services 1.00. Since these systems have 1 drive and use the dual boot feature (or should I say they have been configured to support dual boot), so the drive is formatted as one large drive using FAT. Therefore, there is plenty of disk space available. DISKCACHE parameters are the same. The same applications/folder are started. Let me re-state that the performance found on the 8570-A21 running OS/2 Version 2.0 is NOT consistence of that found on the 8570-A21 running OS/2 Version 1.3. Also, the 8570-A61 is the same as the 8570-A21 except 60 Meg hard disk. This should not be confused with the 8570-A16 which has a 160Meg hard disk. Thanks for your help. Tracy K. Pipkin - Amoco Production Company - Houston, TX - (713) 596-7720 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 12:48:50 on 92/09/30 GMT (by THRUMD at SYDVM1) Subject: OS/2 2.0 Performance Ref: Append at 12:31:35 on 92/09/30 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) Well, OS/2 V2 seems to have a working set about 2 Mb more than 1.3. OS/2 V2 with comms mgr and LAN requester can be a little slow swapping between apps compared with 1.3 on an 8Mb system. I still can't explain why the A16 should be faster than the A21 other than the faster disk (and I'm sure an A16 is ESDI, not SCSI, but I've been wrong before :-) ). I guess one option would be to swap the disks between machines to see whether performance swaps also. Might also be worth de-fragging both systems - the A21 might be more fragmented than the A16. Other than that I'm out of ideas... Dave ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 13:19:08 on 92/09/30 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 2.0 Performance Ref: Append at 12:48:50 on 92/09/30 GMT (by THRUMD at SYDVM1) Dave, I think you are correct. I just looked and I didn't see a SCSI port on the back of the machine. I don't know why I thought this was a SCSI drive! Anyway that makes this more of a concern. By the way, both of these machines were just formatted and setup. Therefore, I'm not sure what benefit would be gained from de-fragmenting? I sure hope that this would not be required after a new install! Thanks for correcting my error. Tracy K. Pipkin - Amoco Production Company - Houston, TX - (713) 596-7720 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 13:56:31 on 92/09/30 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Subject: LS20FX & LS13FX fixes Ref: Append at 18:42:38 on 92/09/29 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) This is ALL I have gotten on this... LS13FX and LS20FX Fixes Corrected and Available 9/25/92 The LS13FX and LS20FX fixes for OS/2 LAN Server/Requester systems have had the needed corrections applied and are again available for downloading. Other than some misleading references to DOS LAN Requester in the READMEs, the primary problem with the fixes was the omission of a special version of NETWKSTA.SYS for OS/2 1.3 systems with LS 2.0 installed. The correct fix package to use depends on what is installed: LS13FX is for OS/2 1.3 EE systems using the EE LAN Server/Requester. LS20FX is for all systems with LS 2.0 installed, including OS/2 1.3 systems. Both fixes have a prerequisite that CSD WR05050 be installed on any OS/2 1.3 systems except those with OS/2 1.30.2 installed (includes CSD 5050). If anyone had downloaded and installed the earlier version of these fixes, you may need to download and install the new versions, again depending on what was originally installed. If you downloaded and installed the LS13FX on only OS/2 1.3 EE systems without LS 2.0, there is no need to download the newer version of LS13FX. If you had used the LS13FX on an OS/2 1.3 system with LS 2.0, you will need to download and install the LS20FX on that OS/2 1.3 system with LS 2.0. If you used the LS20FX on an OS/2 2.0 system, you will also need to download the new LS20FX and install it. It does have "newer" modules than the original LS20FX and additional install instructions that were missing in the original. Anyone installing the LS20FX should take special care to insure that the correct NETWKSTA module get installed on each system based on the OS/2 version. If your site needs both the LS13FX and the LS20FX, extra special care must be used so as not to confuse the two different OS/2 1.3 NETWKSTA.SYS modules involved. One is for 1.3 systems with LS 2.0, one for 1.3 systems that do not have LS 2.0. If you are going to download both fix packages make sure to use two different directories so that the second NETWKSTA.SYS does not overwrite the first one that you download and unzip. Irv Spalten BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:19:57 on 92/09/30 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) ..... OS2QANDA CFORUM modified at 15:36:32 on 92/09/30 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: LS20FX & LS13FX fixes Ref: Append at 23:45:44 on 92/09/29 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) | added info Brent, I tried to install the 1.3 fixes on our Compaq 386\25 300M file server running OS/2 1.3 (5050) and LS 2.0 Entry as 'Additional server' beside IBM 8580 A31 Domain. After replacing the wkstn.sys and the other file, the Compaq couldn't boot . I went back to the GA code. | I just read Irv's memo. The fixes what I applyed are dated | 9-02-92 10:16a 165008 0 NETWKSTA.SYS | 9-02-92 10:13a 8264 0 RDRHELP.SYS Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 NHO-32 801-7th Ave Calgary, Alberta, CANADA T2P 2N6 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:31:48 on 92/09/30 GMT (by V$IPAULD at BCRVMPC1) Subject: OS/2 2.0 Performance Ref: Append at 13:19:08 on 92/09/30 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) Tracy, A freshly installed FAT drive may be quite badly fragmented. A defragmentation utility can help, assuming you have one that does not destroy EAs. Paul Devriendt ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 17:01:10 on 92/09/30 GMT (by CONNORS at RHQVM15) Subject: OS/2 2.0 Performance Ref: Append at 13:19:08 on 92/09/30 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) Tracy, if I recall correctly you said that the system was installed in one large FAT partition. That could be a problem if you only have 8M of RAM. On my 8M Mod 90 I found that my SWAPPER.DAT would occasionally push 20MB. Now having a critical file of that size growing and shrink- ing in the middle of my application files made me very concerned about fragmentation. I decided to create a separate partition for swapper.dat to minimize the dynamic fragmentation. I have the OS/2 2.0 system on the other partition (no dual boot). Finally, I have my applications and private files on a second physical disk which makes reinstallation almost painless. I know you were interested in why similar configurations could be so different in performance. I agree with the others that it is very likely due to disk access time. Even with *identical* systems a slight difference in the sequence of events could place *many* cylinders between adjacent logical tracks of a critical file. Bill Connors, ISC Gaithersburg ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 19:54:45 on 92/09/30 GMT (by PWIS110 at OS2CUST) Subject: where is the service pak? I had read the service pack would be available 'at the end of September... on IBMLINK' and today is Sept 30. K2 MONICO ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 20:10:14 on 92/09/30 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Subject: LS20FX & LS13FX fixes Ref: Append at 15:19:57 on 92/09/30 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) If you're running LS 2.0, you need the LS20FX files, not LS13FX. Brent Allen - IBM LAN Systems Integration Services Southlake, TX ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 20:50:15 on 92/09/30 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) Subject: OS/2 2.0 Performance Ref: Append at 21:59:35 on 92/09/29 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) If you are asking why OS/2 2.0 seems slower than OS/2 1.3, I can think of several reasons. - OS/1 1.3 contains a lot of hand optimized assembly code. Much (most?) of 2.0 is written in C. - OS/2 1.3 had three releases to tune its code. 2.0 has had only 1. (I can still remember the performance increases between 1.2 and 1.3). - OS/2 2.0 introduced the Workplace Shell, which adds massive overhead to the user interface. Nathan Davis ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 21:04:18 on 92/09/30 GMT (by XXNOVA01 at TORVMCOP) Subject: READ/2 on Compaq 486/33M Ref: Append at 22:11:18 on 92/09/29 GMT (by R3VMMSG at RALVMJ) Yep, that was it. I was following some 'bad' advice. Thanks! Perci Hala Nova Corp 403-541-4614 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 22:07:02 on 92/09/30 GMT (by THRUMD at SYDVM1) Subject: OS/2 2.0 Performance Ref: Append at 13:19:08 on 92/09/30 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) I'm at a loss to explain what is going on here (apart from the 160 Mb disk being faster), however I'm not sure it is safe to assume that a newly installed FAT system can not benefit from defragging. Apart from anything else, EA DATA. SF is largely built after the rest of installation has completed, so may be fragmented. Same probably applies to .INI files. Dave ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 23:45:27 on 92/09/30 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Subject: where is the service pak? Ref: Append at 19:54:45 on 92/09/30 GMT (by PWIS110 at OS2CUST) An announcement about the Service Pak has been posted in News & Announcements and in the OS2MISC CForum. You can get the details there but basically it will not be available until probably mid-October. Brent Allen - IBM LAN Systems Integration Services Southlake, TX ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 00:47:28 on 92/10/01 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE83) Subject: where is the service pak? Ref: Append at 23:45:27 on 92/09/30 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Brent, How about posting the announcement as an append. I haven't been able to log into the OS2BBS hardly at all recently. Five out six times that I try I get the following msg. OS2 Bulletin Board Session terminated due to an unknown application error on the OS2 Bulletin BOard processor. Please enter OS2BBS to start a new OS2 BULLETIN BOARD session. Jack Hiatt Marc Life Atlanta Ga. How about them BRAVES ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:03:58 on 92/10/01 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Subject: where is the service pak? Ref: Append at 00:47:28 on 92/10/01 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE83) Irv put the append in OS2MISC. (You've probably seen it by now) Brent Allen - IBM LAN Systems Integration Services Southlake, TX ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 14:35:22 on 92/10/02 GMT (by CONSBADE at DETVMIC4) Subject: Disk defragment. I am running boot manager with 3 partitions; 1 small one for boot mgr, 1 large one for OS/2 2.0 and another for DOS 5.0. I'd like to be able to use one of my DOS defragmentation tools (Norton, PCTOOLS) to defrag the OS/2 partition. I'm leary of using a VDM under OS/2 for this. When I boot the DOS partition, the OS/2 partition is not visible. Same thing when I boot DOS from floppy. Any ideas?? ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:12:03 on 92/10/02 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 2.0 Performance Ref: Append at 17:01:10 on 92/09/30 GMT (by CONNORS at RHQVM15) Forgive me for breaking in but I might have some information that might explain you performance problem. There is a known problem with OS/2 2.0 with large partitions that are greater than 100 megs. The system may react slower and update slower. It doesn't matter if it is formatted in HPFS or FAT but in my experience the problem shows up more in HPFS. Try this simple test. Open a folder, once all the icons are displayed, close it. If it closes after three or four seconds you are having the large partiton problem. In addition I have found that some programs leave parts still running even though you have shut them down. To make sure all application are closed I advice you run CHKDSK C: /F:2 from the installation disk. Example: FORBROWS program was closed by using the Window List. The next time I used my system it ran very slowly, and I mean slow. The only way I found to clear the system of any back ground programs was to run chkdsk. PS: IBM does have a fix for the large partiton problem. Hopefully it will be release in the Service Pack and on the BBS. Jerry Sitbon (718) 357-4369 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 19:16:54 on 92/10/02 GMT (by HNDERSON at AUSVM8) Subject: Disk defragment. Ref: Append at 14:35:22 on 92/10/02 GMT (by CONSBADE at DETVMIC4) I would not recommend doing this with any DOS application against a V2.0 partition, UNLESS you are backed up and enjoy restoring your system. ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 19:44:54 on 92/10/02 GMT (by CONSBADE at DETVMIC4) Subject: Disk defragment. Ref: Append at 19:16:54 on 92/10/02 GMT (by HNDERSON at AUSVM8) Any reason why? I thought the FAT file systems were compatible. Scott ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 20:34:03 on 92/10/02 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE84) Subject: Disk defragment. Ref: Append at 19:44:54 on 92/10/02 GMT (by CONSBADE at DETVMIC4) Scott, The FAT partitions are semi compatible. There are a number of bytes in the FAT that are just marked as reserved by DOS, but are used in OS/2 and some things can cause problems as these are not handled correctly. Jack Hiatt MARC-Life Atlanta Ga. ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 21:52:47 on 92/10/02 GMT (by HNDERSON at AUSVM8) Subject: Disk defragment. Ref: Append at 19:44:54 on 92/10/02 GMT (by CONSBADE at DETVMIC4) DOS doesn't recognize extended attributes. ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 23:49:03 on 92/10/02 GMT (by ABLI001 at OS2CUST) Subject: Disk defragment. Ref: Append at 14:35:22 on 92/10/02 GMT (by CONSBADE at DETVMIC4) If you use dual boot (and thus have only DOS running at the time) then Norton's speed disk seems to work. At least I have had no problem with it on a single partition disk which is purely FAT. It apparently is smart enough to mark the EA_FILE as unmoveable on the info screen and otherwise does nothing which affects directory entries other than move the physical cluster location addresses. Hopefully the EA file doesn't have anything to do with addresses. ->Rich Corbett; ABC Liquors, Inc., Orlando, FL (NASPA: CORBRIC7) ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 11:31:49 on 92/10/05 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 2.0 Performance Ref: Append at 15:12:03 on 92/10/02 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Jerry, Do you have an APAR number for this problem? Thanks. Tracy K. Pipkin - Amoco Production Company - Houston, TX - (713) 596-7720 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 13:31:10 on 92/10/05 GMT (by CONSBADE at DETVMIC4) Subject: Disk defragment. Ref: Append at 23:49:03 on 92/10/02 GMT (by ABLI001 at OS2CUST) Thanks Rick, but we seem to have missed something. When I boot the DOS partition I cannot see the OS/2 partition. Scott D. Bade (313) 436-9517, Fax: 441-0066 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 14:44:34 on 92/10/05 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Disk defragment. Ref: Append at 13:31:10 on 92/10/05 GMT (by CONSBADE at DETVMIC4) Then you are running the (default) HPFS drive. You need the Gammatech Utilities. Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 NHO-32 801-7th Ave Calgary, Alberta, CANADA T2P 2N6 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:16:07 on 92/10/05 GMT (by ABLI001 at OS2CUST) Subject: Disk defragment. Ref: Append at 13:31:10 on 92/10/05 GMT (by CONSBADE at DETVMIC4) Aha! from your statement that you cannot see the "partition" I conclude that they are primary partitions. See the installation guide page 36-37 where it talks about the fact that only one primary partition will be drive C: and that the extended partitions are what contain the other logical drives. Conclusion: only put the bare bones part of os/2 in the primary partition (and therefore it is static and needs no defragmenting.) If you really love the idea of partitions, then put the common data in "extended partitions" which can be assigned logical drives. I just decided to stick with a single partition, which means that if it is to boot DOS at times, then it must be FAT formatted. If you would like more info about partitions then study the various utilities on the BBS's which preceeded the boot manager of 2.0. There is even one which will swap primary partitions into logical drives when one is not booted (but I wasn't interested in the complications so I don't remember the name.) ->Rich Corbett; ABC Liquors, Inc., Orlando, FL (NASPA: CORBRIC7) ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:28:49 on 92/10/05 GMT (by PNWB016 at HONE84) Subject: OS/2 2.0 Performance Ref: Append at 11:31:49 on 92/10/05 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) Tracy: PMJI, but APAR PJ04960 may be the one the Jerry is describing. (We currently have a "critical situation" open with this APAR on our list of "must haves".) BTW... this problem IS fixed in the Service Pack. Wayne "End of interruption" Holmes ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:36:56 on 92/10/05 GMT (by CNADLER at WMAVM1) Subject: Disk defragment. Ref: Append at 14:44:34 on 92/10/05 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Not necessarily, if he's running BootManager/2 and has set up his OS/2 partition as a primary partition. The system (read BIOS and compatability) only allows you to see one primary partition on each physical hard disk at a time. If this is the case, boot DOS from diskette to see OS/2. Cliff Nadler GO TEAM OS/2! Systems Integration and Services Rockville, MD IBM Federal Systems Company PROFS: NADLER at WMAVM7 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:50:10 on 92/10/05 GMT (by IL03484 at OS2CUST) Subject: ES - DBM - Host Vars. We would like to know if host variable declarations can be declared in a .h fil e, and referenced as "external" in another .h file? The goal is to be able to treat a host variable the same as we would any other global/external reference in the C language. Michele Forgy ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:47:03 on 92/10/05 GMT (by CONSBADE at DETVMIC4) ..... OS2QANDA CFORUM modified at 17:30:41 on 92/10/05 GMT (by CONSBADE at DETVMIC4) Subject: Disk defragment. Ref: Append at 14:44:34 on 92/10/05 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) No. I'm using FAT. 2 drives, 3 partitions. When I boot OS/2, drive C: is OS/2 and D: is DOS drive. When I boot DOS boot mgr is C: and DOS is D:. | Thanks Cliff, booting DOS from floppy is the answer. Scott D. Bade ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 17:16:25 on 92/10/05 GMT (by NAAO3IY at HONE82) Subject: Disk defragment. Ref: Append at 20:34:03 on 92/10/02 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE84) So far, my experience and everyone else's has been that Norton Utilities SpeeDisk 6.01 is safe for 2.0 FAT disks. By the way, someone from Norton called me today, taking a survey on why I hadn't responded to their introductory offer for Norton Desktop for DOS. I told him I had OS/2 2.0 at the office and at home and so couldn't use their product. He responded that they had been hearing that a _lot_ lately, and they were working on an OS/2 product. Sometimes one almost hopes.... John Kennedy, Hoechst Celanese (The OS/2 Hobbit) ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 19:02:57 on 92/10/05 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 2.0 Performance Ref: Append at 11:31:49 on 92/10/05 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) I have many APRs and PMR's for this problem. Here are some directly related to your problem 6X856, 4X878 and 4X290 Also it is known under APR PJ04960 and PJ04861 It is listed also in the New Service Pack list of fixes under topics: Problems with IBM SCSI I/O Slow Closing of folders, poor performance Long Installation. I currently have the fix for slow closing of folder / poor performance. and IBM SCSI I/O problem. IBM's Development team claimed it was going to list them on the OS/2 BBS. I still have not seen them. I am Beta testing the new OS/2 version. It does include the fixes for Slow closing, poor performance and IBM SCSI I/O. I don't know it the Long Install has been completly resolved. SEE Beta Test Area on the BBS. You can call me today if you need more information Jerry Sitbon (718) 357-4369 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 19:21:25 on 92/10/05 GMT (by SURS001 at OS2CUST) Subject: Why 2 service paks Why is there going to be 2 service paks?? One with 32 bit graphics engine, which is coming out before the one with out the 32 bit graphis engine. Why would anyone want to wait for the later. Byron Campbell State Universities Retirement System ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 20:47:52 on 92/10/05 GMT (by CNADLER at WMAVM1) Subject: Why 2 service paks Ref: Append at 19:21:25 on 92/10/05 GMT (by SURS001 at OS2CUST) This was covered earlier and in other places, but to be brief: some of our customers do not want the additional 32-bit GRE (usually because they have 16-bit drivers which could make a performance hit). Most of our customers seem to want the GRE so we are concentrating on that first (limited resources). Cliff Nadler GO TEAM OS/2! Systems Integration and Services Rockville, MD IBM Federal Systems Company PROFS: NADLER at WMAVM7 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 21:02:17 on 92/10/05 GMT (by AABA0EM at OS2CUST) Subject: Why 2 service paks Ref: Append at 19:21:25 on 92/10/05 GMT (by SURS001 at OS2CUST) Byron, If you think about the type of OS/2 user who wouldn't want the 32bit graphics engine, it may explain some of the strange backward looking things in the workplace shell. IBM apparently has many customers who feel comfortable reamining in the past. Bob Holmes, Southern California Gas ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 22:11:40 on 92/10/05 GMT (by ABLI001 at OS2CUST) Subject: Why 2 service paks Ref: Append at 19:21:25 on 92/10/05 GMT (by SURS001 at OS2CUST) The first "service pack" is just the 32bit engine, no other fixes. It delivers on a promise originally made at release time. The other one really is service. The experimenters/ developers need the first for work-in-progress. The rest of us need all the fixes so that we can have more stable machines for a production environment. When it ships, "real world" shops will suddenly order lots of copies to replace windows instead of just running OS/2 in the back room test machines. ->Rich Corbett; ABC Liquors, Inc., Orlando, FL (NASPA: CORBRIC7) ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 22:22:13 on 92/10/05 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Why 2 service paks Ref: Append at 22:11:40 on 92/10/05 GMT (by ABLI001 at OS2CUST) This isn't what I read in the Ann Letter. 1.st service pack (first one) contains 32bit GRE + ALL the fixes tested together . 2.nd SP ALL the fixes for the 16bit GRE and kernel (Tested.) You can't mix-match the two SP. If you want to change it , you have to install GA from start. Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 Fax:(403)-290-5900 NHO-32 801-7th Ave Calgary, Alberta, CANADA T2P 2N6 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 01:21:34 on 92/10/06 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Why 2 service paks Ref: Append at 22:22:13 on 92/10/05 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Correct Geza... Both SP's have BASE fixes in them... Irv Spalten BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:48:58 on 92/10/06 GMT (by IL44027 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 Internal Processing Errors Has anyone had problems with OS/2 locking up with the following internal processing error? Internal Processing Error ##0f00:141e-0002:141e 65535, 9051 CPS: Extent not found 048600b4 Internal Revision 6.307, 92/03/01 I have been getting this error intermittently with a fairly old word processing software called PC Write. Yesterday I received the same error while using Harvard Graphics 3.0. This software is loaded on a IBM PS/2 8590-0H9. Both of these softwares were under a DOS session when this happened. Yesterday I started getting this exact same error on a PS/2 8590-161 while trying to get into Communications Manager. This error is very consistant and I placed a call into OS/2 support but still have not heard from them. Any hints what this might be? Dale Radspinner, Simco Electronics, Inc. (713)483-3574 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 20:17:32 on 92/10/06 GMT (by NAAO3IY at HONE86) Subject: OS/2 Internal Processing Errors Ref: Append at 16:48:58 on 92/10/06 GMT (by IL44027 at OS2CUST) Boot from diskette and run CHKDSK C: /F:3. Do it again and again. You'll find a bad file that won't go away. Scratch it. Don't try to copy it to rescue it -- you'll just blow up again. John Kennedy, Hoechst Celanese (The OS/2 Hobbit) ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 21:13:24 on 92/10/06 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) Subject: OS/2 Internal Processing Errors Ref: Append at 20:17:32 on 92/10/06 GMT (by NAAO3IY at HONE86) You might also need to get the latest HPFS fixes (may require a re-format). Nathan Davis - IBM FSC Houston ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 22:54:27 on 92/10/06 GMT (by HNDERSON at AUSVM8) Subject: OS/2 Internal Processing Errors Ref: Append at 16:48:58 on 92/10/06 GMT (by IL44027 at OS2CUST) Dale, you could report this problem electronicly thru this BBS. It will reach the right people, in support. you post in the append ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 00:49:33 on 92/10/07 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE86) Subject: OS/2 Internal Processing Errors Ref: Append at 16:48:58 on 92/10/06 GMT (by IL44027 at OS2CUST) One of the kernel fixes addressed this problem you might want to check out the fixes in the software area. Jack Hiatt Marc Life Atlanta Ga. ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 13:58:23 on 92/10/07 GMT (by PSC31 at OS2CUST) Subject: Sony CD-ROM support Ref: Append at 13:10:15 on 92/09/18 GMT (by CHVY002 at OS2CUST) The answer is probably not, if the .EXE you're talking about is MSCDEX.EXE. I've had problems running this under OS/2 2.0, even in a VDM with MS-DOS 5.0 loaded (where I've been able to load MSCDEX only if I don't load FSFILTER, thus giving up write access to all my hard drive partitions). My guess is that MSCDEX (the MS CD-ROM extensions) is sensitive to both the version of DOS and to the contents of specific storage locations, which are changed in some way by FSFILTER (how's that for speculation?). I haven't had the time to trace through the code and see what it's actually doing. You definitely won't be able to run MSCDEX.EXE in an OS/2 session--it's a DOS program. Bob Dedrick, Prodigy Services Company (P*HFDD60A) ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 14:51:55 on 92/10/07 GMT (by TOWNSEND at RHQVM08) ..... OS2QANDA CFORUM modified at 18:24:58 on 92/10/07 GMT (by HOPKINS at AUSVM8) Subject: removed at owner's request ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:29:36 on 92/10/07 GMT (by NABL3MP at OS2CUST) Subject: SPM OS/2 BETA TESTING I'M PART OF THE BETA CODE TESTING PROGRAM FOR SPM/2 V2.0. HOW DO I GET TO THE SPM FORMUM NAMED OS2SPM20? WHO CAN I CALL? THANK YOU SCOTT HASKINS (612) 738-5588 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 18:29:55 on 92/10/07 GMT (by HOPKINS at AUSVM8) Subject: SPM OS/2 BETA TESTING Ref: Append at 16:29:36 on 92/10/07 GMT (by NABL3MP at OS2CUST) Lan Systems Beta test (LS3.0, NTS/2, SPM/2, etc.) replies should go to the LSYSBETA CFORUM. Ken Hopkins, OS/2 Software Service and Support ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 20:04:50 on 92/10/07 GMT (by V$IBICKL at AUSVM8) Subject: SPM OS/2 BETA TESTING Ref: Append at 16:29:36 on 92/10/07 GMT (by NABL3MP at OS2CUST) The Forum being used for SPM/2 feedback is LSYSBETA. Ryan Bickling OS/2 Service and Support - IBM Austin, Texas ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 21:14:10 on 92/10/07 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Prodigy?? (was Sony CD-ROM support Ref: Append at 13:58:23 on 92/10/07 GMT (by PSC31 at OS2CUST) Bob, When are you expanding to Canada? When I applied to the membership, they refused me. Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 Fax (403)-290-5900 NHO-32 801-7th Ave Calgary, Alberta, CANADA T2P 2N6 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 21:24:40 on 92/10/07 GMT (by PNWB016 at HONE82) Subject: Prodigy OS/2 Plans? Ref: Append at 13:58:23 on 92/10/07 GMT (by PSC31 at OS2CUST) Bob: Couldn't help notice your tagline... could you comment on any plans Prodigy has of implementing an OS/2 native version of the Prodigy software? Several of us "OS/2 types" on *P* have submitted a lot of requests, but haven't really heard anything back. BTW... I understand if you can't comment. Wayne "I want an OS/2 NATIVE version of Prodigy" Holmes ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 00:34:47 on 92/10/08 GMT (by IL41468 at HONE84) Subject: Dataex/VSE Has anyone out there used Dataex/VSE with LAN Server channel to a VSE system? If so can you share your experience? J.M.Schaeffer ('John' AIMS Sandy, Utah) ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 03:30:03 on 92/10/08 GMT (by DEV2647 at OS2CUST) Subject: OSESLSTR with PM & C course for beginning programmers I am about to release my OSESLSTR.INF file to the general public, but I need your input. The OSESLSTR.INF file will provide OS/2 v2 information on how to install, configure and use OS/2 v2, Extended Services, LAN Server and a Token- Ring LAN. What do you think about me adding PM to show people how to program Presentation Manager using C. This part will introduce C programming to novice programmers and at the same time show how to program in PM? Any comments? I think it is a great idea! Bob Barber at AOSI, (415) 586-3454 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 05:10:18 on 92/10/08 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: OSESLSTR with PM & C course for beginning programmers Ref: Append at 03:30:03 on 92/10/08 GMT (by DEV2647 at OS2CUST) Let's see what the man has! <g> This must be a huge INF file. Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 Fax (403)-290-5900 NHO-32 801-7th Ave Calgary, Alberta, CANADA T2P 2N6 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 14:01:47 on 92/10/08 GMT (by SLAUSON at WATSON) Subject: OSESLSTR with PM & C course for beginning programmers Ref: Append at 03:30:03 on 92/10/08 GMT (by DEV2647 at OS2CUST) Sounds like a great idea to me! If your PM programming .INF file contained some useful examples, folks could use VIEW's clipboard to copy the examples as templates for their own programs. David Slauson IBM T.J. Watson Research Center, Yorktown Heights, NY From: slauson@c-food.watson.ibm.com ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 18:29:25 on 92/10/08 GMT (by STGA049 at OS2CUST) Subject: somftn availability I viewed the ftn broadcast for som today--it was a great intro to a technology that is conceptually very appealing. The moderator said that hard-copy of the ftn was available on the os2bbs. My question is where?? I've looked in every forum and news + announcements for it. I'm searching....... Paula Reith, Ga Dept of Corrections ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 18:58:59 on 92/10/08 GMT (by IL41468 at HONE81) Subject: somftn availability Ref: Append at 18:29:25 on 92/10/08 GMT (by STGA049 at OS2CUST) Paula: OS2BBS then OS/2 Software Information then OS2/ Documents and Informations then SOMFTN J.M.Schaeffer ('John' AIMS Sandy, Utah) ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 19:24:51 on 92/10/08 GMT (by CONC7L02 at DALVM41B) Subject: OSESLSTR with PM & C course for beginning programmers Ref: Append at 14:01:47 on 92/10/08 GMT (by SLAUSON at WATSON) I also think this would be a very good idea, I would also take a look at sometime. Will you be posting this to any Public BBS? To bad we do not have CWS (customer written software) yet. So you could put here. Joseph Mogavero. ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 22:19:14 on 92/10/08 GMT (by KDROMREL at SFOVMIC1) Subject: Workset/2 pricing - new special Ref: Append at 20:32:11 on 92/09/23 GMT (by PER518 at OS2CUST) Yes, the original special on WorkSet/2 has expired. BUT..., now there's a new special for WorkSet/2. I haven't seen the official announcement yet, but it's my understanding that you can get the whole kit and kaboodle for $375. This offer is valid starting next week, and runs until April of 1993. To order just call 1-800-3IBM-OS2. If anyone has any additional information, pls include it here. Kelvin D. Romrell ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 23:53:12 on 92/10/09 GMT (by BCHI040 at HONE81) Subject: Entry Field Cursor Positioning Ref: Append at 20:28:38 on 92/09/16 GMT (by BCHI052 at OS2CUST) I used the arrow key.. ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 03:45:53 on 92/10/10 GMT (by DEV2647 at OS2CUST) Subject: OSESLSTR with PM & C course for beginning programmers Ref: Append at 19:24:51 on 92/10/08 GMT (by CONC7L02 at DALVM41B) Hi Joseph - I don't plan on putting the OSESLSTR (tm) on any BBS other than for internal IBM scrutiny <Grin>. I will allow all IBMer's worldwide to have one copy for their use and also to show to prospective OS/2 v2 customers. Their will be no charge to IBMer's. All other OS/2 users will pay under $20 for the First Edition. The OSESLSTR is expected to be over 1 MB in size. It will also be a .INF file. Bob Barber at AOSI, (415) 586-3454 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 04:23:09 on 92/10/10 GMT (by DEV2647 at OS2CUST) Subject: OSESLSTR with PM & C course for beginning programmers Ref: Append at 14:01:47 on 92/10/08 GMT (by SLAUSON at WATSON) Hi David - That's exactly what I have in mind with OS/2 end-users doing with my OSESLSTR.INF file. I guess the number of potential users for my file will be in the hundreds of thousands. Especially for new programmers to C and PM. My OSESLSTR (tm) file will be updated as frequently as OS/2 v2 is updated and as I feel an update should happen. I expect at least a 15 day to 1 month period between updates. Do you have any suggestions on how I may present C and PM in my OSESLSTR file? Bob Barber at AOSI, (415) 586-3454 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 03:36:07 on 92/10/14 GMT (by XXNOVA01 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Error Loading User Driver Ref: Append at 15:38:43 on 92/08/14 GMT (by XXNOVA01 at TORVMCOP) Solved! It appears to have been a configuration problem. Talked to Future Domain and they recommended I check the settings for the SCSI and not use the device driver on the DOS disk. Although my settings appeared to be okay, I reset them to the defaults (in the help) and tried booting with DOS without the driver. Booted okay, recognized the SCSI disk and rebooted OS/2 cleanly! Yah-Hoo! Thanks to Future Domain for the great support! Perci Hala Nova Corp 403-541-4614 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 12:22:14 on 92/10/15 GMT (by AYP1795 at OS2CUST) ..... OS2QANDA CFORUM modified at 14:35:53 on 92/10/19 GMT (by AYP1795 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 Clock This APPEND was deleted at 10:35:52 on 10/19/92 EST. ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 13:25:05 on 92/10/15 GMT (by IL39787 at OS2CUST) Subject: Service Paks when ? Does anyone have any idea as to when the service paks will become available? We were told the end of September and I realize that date was pushed back. But try to give me a good guess as to when. I've got users waiting and they are asking me why we haven't got it yet. ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:32:52 on 92/10/15 GMT (by Z77JAC at BETASVM2) Subject: Service Paks when ? Ref: Append at 13:25:05 on 92/10/15 GMT (by IL39787 at OS2CUST) See OS2MISC for a full discussion of this issue. Jerry Case, TEAMOS2 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:54:59 on 92/10/15 GMT (by CONC7L02 at DALVM41B) Subject: Service Paks when ? Ref: Append at 13:25:05 on 92/10/15 GMT (by IL39787 at OS2CUST) <Follow the yellow brink road> This topic is somewhat<GRIN> talked about in the OS2MISC CFORUM. Thanks. Joseph ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 19:47:33 on 92/10/15 GMT (by X013813 at HONE83) Subject: OS/2 Clock Ref: Append at 12:22:14 on 92/10/15 GMT (by AYP1795 at OS2CUST) Help!!! I seem to be having the same problem. Running PS/2 MOD 80. Thought maybe it was the battery, but haven't had a chance to change it. ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 20:25:44 on 92/10/15 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) Subject: OS/2 Clock Ref: Append at 19:47:33 on 92/10/15 GMT (by X013813 at HONE83) Are you connedted to a LAN? I believe some LAN support programs synchronize the wordstation's time with the server's. (of course, your watch could just be fast :-) Nathan Davis - IBM FSC Houston ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 21:12:03 on 92/10/15 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: OS/2 Clock Ref: Append at 20:25:44 on 92/10/15 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) The IBM Lan Server is one of them. Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 Fax (403)-290-5900 NHO-32 801-7th Ave Calgary, Alberta, CANADA T2P 2N6 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 21:54:00 on 92/10/15 GMT (by AABA0EM at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 Clock Ref: Append at 12:22:14 on 92/10/15 GMT (by AYP1795 at OS2CUST) Terri, If the PC is left on, is not LAN connected and the date and time commands are not used to reset the clock, the only thing that is updating the clock is the system timer not the CMOS battery operated clock. I am not sure about OS/2, but there are some programs that can cause timer updates to be lost or missed so that the clock time is not updated. Another possiblility is that the timing crystal on the system board is slow. If you are losing about 4 minutes per day that is 4/1440=0.0028 or about .28 percent. So if your machine is a 25MHz system the crystal speed should be 50MHz but is actually 49.860MHz. Bob Holmes, Southern California Gas ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 12:32:16 on 92/10/16 GMT (by AYP1Q01 at HONE81) Subject: OS/2 Clock Ref: Append at 12:22:14 on 92/10/15 GMT (by AYP1795 at OS2CUST) Terri, I've noticed this too. If I reset my system clock, log off the LAN and back on, I'm back where I started. I think we need to change the time on the server. By the way, I found a nice Rexx program in the Rexx forum which uses the Rexx SAA EHLLAPI functions to set the system clock from a VM session. However, since our server is still running OS/2 1.3 this doesn't help in this situation. Steve Bassler, Allegheny Power ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 12:59:29 on 92/10/16 GMT (by OLIVIERI at FSHVMFK1) Subject: CHKDSK Problems When I run CHKDSK on my PS/2, it tells me I have errors and to use the /f parameter. When I try to do this, OS/2 tells me that the file is in use. How can I fix this problem? Paul Olivieri ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 13:06:18 on 92/10/16 GMT (by IL26761 at OS2CUST) Subject: CHKDSK Problems Ref: Append at 12:59:29 on 92/10/16 GMT (by OLIVIERI at FSHVMFK1) To successfully run chkdsk against OS/2 you must boot from the Install disk and Disk#1, ESC to A:, insert disk#2 in drive and run chkdsk as A:CHKDSK /f. If you have not installed any fixes to your system you will probably still get an error on the swap file but you can ignore that normally. Jack Hiatt MARC-Life Atlanta Ga. ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:43:59 on 92/10/16 GMT (by X013813 at HONE86) Subject: OS/2 Clock Ref: Append at 20:25:44 on 92/10/15 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) I am connected via the OS/2 requester. The server's (Lan Server 1.3) clock was about five minutes slow, so I reset the clock. I'll keep you posted if this fixes the problem. ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 18:30:41 on 92/10/16 GMT (by DEV1281 at OS2CUST) Subject: CHKDSK Problems Ref: Append at 13:06:18 on 92/10/16 GMT (by IL26761 at OS2CUST) Better yet, download the BOOT20 program from the software library. It lets you create a single boot disk. It really speeds up booting from floppies. Chris Myers, Quatech Inc. ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 20:09:16 on 92/10/16 GMT (by SBCY006 at OS2CUST) Subject: Full Screen sessions Processing stop when switched We have found out that both DOS and OS/2 Full Screen session do not process when you switch t another task. I assume this is known but I do not think that it is acceptable. Does anyone know if IBM is planning on fixing this ? Or if anything can be done to over come it ? Matthew Moran- County of Santa Barbara - SBCY006/HONE83 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 20:21:51 on 92/10/16 GMT (by BTTUCKER at ATLVM1) Subject: Full Screen sessions Processing stop when switched Ref: Append at 20:09:16 on 92/10/16 GMT (by SBCY006 at OS2CUST) I think more details are in order - the OS/2 fullscreen certainly does continue for me... the DOS can be told not to background process, via a switch in the DOS settings. Please tell us more, i.e., what is it that seems not to continue. I just tested the OS/2 fullscreen using this .CMD file: /* needed comment */ i=0 do forever i=i+1 say i end /*do*/ exit Although it runs fast, you should be able to note the 'neighborhood' of the last number on-screen as you switch away, then look again a bit later... BT ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 20:26:52 on 92/10/16 GMT (by ABLI001 at OS2CUST) Subject: Full Screen sessions Processing stop when switched Ref: Append at 20:09:16 on 92/10/16 GMT (by SBCY006 at OS2CUST) I presume some some IBM'er will eventually answer about any bugs, but until they do, let me say that I do not see that problem, exactly. First, are you talking about 2.0? In 1.3, the DOS session was definitely suspended in BG. Second, have you checked the DOS settings (using alt-f10 or however you prefer to get there) to see if you have changed the attribute to suspend it in background? Also, if you have changed the keyboard-sensitivity to a very small value (e.g. 1-10) then it may think that the DOS is always polling and suspend it. Third, have you or someone else who works on that machine installed TAME? It could be that the settings are similarly too low on it. Fourth, is the application doing graphics? In that case, OS/2 will sometimes suspend fullscreen in bg for some graphics calls (and DPMI, I think) whereas they would keep on running if they were windowed. ->Rich Corbett; ABC Liquors, Inc., Orlando, FL (NASPA: CORBRIC7) ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 02:58:20 on 92/10/17 GMT (by IL48722 at OS2CUST) Subject: CHKDSK Problems Ref: Append at 18:30:41 on 92/10/16 GMT (by DEV1281 at OS2CUST) Except that the resulting boot image (on my configuration) doesn't fit on a 1.44 MB floppy. Now if my PS/2 70-121 only supported the 2.88 MB diskette drives (sigh). Bob Beilstein, Manugistics, Inc. (315) 458-0723 FAX:(315) 458-1003 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 10:04:35 on 92/10/17 GMT (by KENKAHN at PKSMRVM) Subject: CHKDSK Problems Ref: Append at 02:58:20 on 92/10/17 GMT (by IL48722 at OS2CUST) What configuration do you have? Did you specify TYPE=PM or TYPE=WPS when invoking SE20BOOT? These require 5.6M and 6M or disk space, respectively. If not, it should fit unless the CONFIG.SYS on your active system has 'extra' BASEDEV= statements it doesn't need. Kenneth Kahn Staff of IBM Fellow: IBM Personal/370 Poughkeepsie, NY Internet: KENKAHN@PKSMRVM.VNET.IBM.COM IBMMAIL: USIB25P9 at IBMMAIL ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 18:44:43 on 92/10/17 GMT (by DEV2647 at OS2CUST) Subject: Pure OS/2 & HPFS How many of you are using OS/2 on a HPFS partition? Bob Barber at AOSI, (415) 586-3454 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 21:49:26 on 92/10/17 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE82) Subject: Pure OS/2 & HPFS Ref: Append at 18:44:43 on 92/10/17 GMT (by DEV2647 at OS2CUST) Bob, Count me in for 8 machines running full HPFS including 2 LAN servers running LS 2.0 one as an Oracle Database server. Jack Hiatt Marc Life Atlanta Ga. ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 23:02:13 on 92/10/17 GMT (by DEV2647 at OS2CUST) Subject: Pure OS/2 & HPFS Ref: Append at 21:49:26 on 92/10/17 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE82) Hi Jack - What backup program are you using? I just got in 16 additional MB of RAM for a total 32MB on my PS/2 8595-0LF. I also installed a rewriteable optical drive. As soon as I receive my CD-ROM drive, I'll play around with the PDK kit. I am using the 95 as a server and a 70 as a requester on a token-ring. Bob Barber at AOSI, (415) 586-3454 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 03:21:20 on 92/10/18 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE83) Subject: Pure OS/2 & HPFS Ref: Append at 23:02:13 on 92/10/17 GMT (by DEV2647 at OS2CUST) Bob, We've been using one of the Sytos packages for most of the backup, we have about 75-80 DOS workstations out there also that are using a procedure built around PKZIP to back up to one of the LAN servers, and currently the OS/2 stations are doing the same for data files, still waiting for something to come along to allow a really good restorable backup for those. Currently the OS/2 servers are clones built in house over Micronics MBs with about 3.3gigabytes of disk space each. Was going to replace my HD in my inhouse built clone with a 500meg, and partition it for a production version of OS/2, beta version, then a GA version to apply the Service Pack to for testing purposes. Jack Hiatt Marc Life Atlanta Ga. ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 18:09:18 on 92/10/18 GMT (by NANR6GN at HONE82) Subject: Pure OS/2 & HPFS Ref: Append at 18:44:43 on 92/10/17 GMT (by DEV2647 at OS2CUST) Bob, I am using OS/2 HPFS only on two machines. Work Machine: PS/2 Mod 70 121 20Mhz. 120 Mb Hard Drive 2 1.44 Mb Floppies 16 Mb. Ram Home Machine: 386 Clone Machine with ETEQ Chipset, and Microid Research Bios (MR BIOS) 33 Mhz. 130 Mb. Seagate IDE drive. 212 Mb. Connore IDE drive. 1.44 and 1.2 Floppies 64k Cache 8 Mb. Ram So far I have had no problems with HPFS. I don't have a backup of the OS/2 System Files, only the WPS, and My Apps. WPS backed up with the Shareware program, And the Apps backed up by the OS/2 Backup Program. I'm saving to get a Tape drive at home so that I can stop living Dangerously. So far I have been "LUCKY" <g>. Cesar Ventura, Telesector Resources Group ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 22:24:04 on 92/10/18 GMT (by DEV2647 at OS2CUST) Subject: Pure OS/2 & HPFS Ref: Append at 18:09:18 on 92/10/18 GMT (by NANR6GN at HONE82) Hi Cesar - My 95 has a 486DX2-66MHz, 400MB SCSI, 32MB RAM, 1 3.5" & 1 5.25", 1 rewriteable optical drive with 128MB capacity and 1 8516 Touch display. I should be installing a CR-ROM drive this week so I can use the PDK CD-ROM with lots of programming stuff on it. Have you tried using the OS/2 32-Bit GRE & WIN3.1 beta yet? Bob Barber at AOSI, (415) 586-3454 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 22:28:42 on 92/10/18 GMT (by DEV2647 at OS2CUST) Subject: Pure OS/2 & HPFS Ref: Append at 03:21:20 on 92/10/18 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE83) Jack - I'm trying to figure out a way to utilize my rewriteable optical drive as a backup for a HPFS partition. IBM supplies a DOS backup program, but no OS/2 program for the optical. I can then set up HPFS partitions in 127MB increments on my 400MB SCSI. The optical drive can handle 127.1MB of data on the cartridges. Bob Barber at AOSI, (415) 586-3454 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 05:46:54 on 92/10/19 GMT (by IL48722 at OS2CUST) Subject: CHKDSK Problems Ref: Append at 10:04:35 on 92/10/17 GMT (by KENKAHN at PKSMRVM) Well, the boot image it produced wouldn't fit on the diskette. I do have some BASEDEV statements in my CONFIG.SYS that I may be able to part with. I should be able, for instance, to part with the ones for my Future Domain SCSI host, and just the INT13 driver. I'll try again. Thanks! P.S. Have you folk gotten VTAM up on the P/370 yet? I WANT ONE!!! Bob Beilstein, Manugistics, Inc. (315) 458-0723 FAX:(315) 458-1003 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 05:50:14 on 92/10/19 GMT (by IL48722 at OS2CUST) Subject: Pure OS/2 & HPFS Ref: Append at 18:44:43 on 92/10/17 GMT (by DEV2647 at OS2CUST) I am. HPFS has too many advantages... I do have a small FAT partition for things that I may want to run under DOS (I have the Boot Manager installed), but I think I've actually booted the DOS twice -- and one of those was to install a product (CheckFree) that works just fine under OS/2, but whose install program blew up. Bob Beilstein, Manugistics, Inc. (315) 458-0723 FAX:(315) 458-1003 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 12:12:42 on 92/10/19 GMT (by KENKAHN at PKSMRVM) Subject: CHKDSK Problems Ref: Append at 05:46:54 on 92/10/19 GMT (by IL48722 at OS2CUST) Ther reason I asked about the BASEDEV= statements is a lot of sites have processes for OS/2 that install preconfigured systems; these usually have CONFIG.SYS that have every possible BASEDEV= statements defined, whether or not you actually have that device attached to your workstation. The SE20BOOT program depends on the OS/2 Install Process to 'screen' these devices and only add the BASEDEV statements that are needed. Two quick points on your P/370 question: - First off, it is *only* available via the OEM channel right now. You can't just call up your IBM rep and 'order a few'. - We do have the VTAM application running on a P/370 VM system, but it only 'talks' to other local VM systems. What connections are you interested in: SDLC, T/R, etc... Kenneth Kahn Staff of IBM Fellow: IBM Personal/370 Poughkeepsie, NY Internet: KENKAHN@PKSMRVM.VNET.IBM.COM IBMMAIL: USIB25P9 at IBMMAIL ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:32:30 on 92/10/19 GMT (by SBCY006 at OS2CUST) Subject: Full Screen sessions Processing stop when switched Ref: Append at 20:26:52 on 92/10/16 GMT (by ABLI001 at OS2CUST) In my DOS setting I have BACKGROUND_EXECUTION = ON. My one Full screen WP51 stops when we jump to another session. My other application is DataEase for OS/2 and it also stops. This is a strange app since I tell it to run in Window Modeand for some reason to forces the session to Full Screen. Matthew Moran- County of Santa Barbara - SBCY006/HONE83 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:16:28 on 92/10/19 GMT (by IL48722 at OS2CUST) Subject: CHKDSK Problems Ref: Append at 12:12:42 on 92/10/19 GMT (by KENKAHN at PKSMRVM) I looked again at my boot diskette attempt. It seems like a lot of space is being taken up for HPFS support. On the P/370 front: Yes, I'm quite aware that it's only available through OEM's now, but I fervently hope that that is something which will change (and I know that there are others in your group that feel the same way). I'd be perfectly happy if this required one to have VM already licensed, and that only LTU licenses were available for the P/370 (this would eliminate many of the potential support headaches and licensing issues, I think). VTAM? Well, SDLC support (preferably using the Multiprotocol adapter to keep costs down) would be great. A device driver that talked to a token ring adapter and looked to the P/370 like a 3712 would be very useful, too. The Personal/370 is the sort of thing that any mainframe programmer would (almost!) kill to have on his or her desktop. Why it's not more readily available (without being configured and loaded by some OEM) is beyond me. But, then, I'm a programmer, not a policy setter. Anyway, thanks for your response. And (drool) an ESA version of the P/370 would be a lovely Christmas present one of these days... Bob Beilstein, Manugistics, Inc. (315) 458-0723 FAX:(315) 458-1003 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 16:41:26 on 92/10/19 GMT (by HDEVORE at BOULDER) Subject: Re: Full Screen sessions Processing stop when switched Ref: Append at 20:26:52 on 92/10/16 GMT (by ABLI001 at OS2CUST) Full screen sessions *do* stop if you have an XGA and the fullscreen sessions are in high-res graphics mode. I'm not sure if this is fixable or not. You might go over to the OS2CSD CFORUM on this BBS and ask if this will be changed in the new service pack. Hal DeVore Space Station DMS Software Development HDEVORE at HOUVMSCC hdevore@erehwon.houston.ibm.com ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 03:54:08 on 92/10/20 GMT (by DEV2647 at OS2CUST) Subject: Pure OS/2 & HPFS Ref: Append at 05:50:14 on 92/10/19 GMT (by IL48722 at OS2CUST) Hi Bob - I'm using Boot Manager too. I have OS/2 2.0 GA in one HPFS partition. IBM Pre Release 32Bit Graphics Engine & Win v 3.1 in another HPFS partition. As soon as I get my CD-ROM drive installed, I'll have a third HPFS partition for the Professional Developers Kit offered on a CD-ROM. I hear that the PDK contains about 250MB of OS/2 2.0 goodies and a whole lot more. Bob Barber at AOSI, (415) 586-3454 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 14:11:48 on 92/10/20 GMT (by GRAPH10 at DFWVM03) Subject: Using 4 floppy drives with OS/2 Ver 2.0 I have a floppy drive controller for using up to 4 floppy drives. It's a Universal Floppy Disk Controller from Northgate. Under DOS 5 DRIVER.SYS was used in CONFIG.SYS for the system to recognize the third and fourth floppy drive. Question is... now that I've converted to OS/2 2.0 is there an equivalent driver I can use to replace DRIVER.SYS? Should DRIVER.SYS work with OS/2 2.0? Any help will be much appreciated. Peyton Weaver GRAPH10 at DFWVM03 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 17:27:48 on 92/10/20 GMT (by IL45995 at MARTLINK) Subject: defining com4 port in non-IBM PC How do you change the OS/2 configuration to recognize the internal modem setup as com4 port? This is a non-IBM processor. Thank you. Bob Wallbank ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 17:30:41 on 92/10/20 GMT (by IL45995 at MARTLINK) Subject: Comm Mgr config problems When configuring comm manager, I would like a 3270 session started at IPL. I would also like an ASCII terminal Emulator started. The configuration does not work if I ask to show the 3270 session as the main session at start up. Please help. Bob Wallbank ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 19:34:12 on 92/10/20 GMT (by IL39279 at OS2CUST) Subject: Swapper Size We plan to RIPL OS/2 on the workstations. We would like to have the swapper file reside on the local hard disk of each workstation. Are there any estimates of how much disk space I should plan to reserve for the swapper file if there is 8 meg of memory? What if 12 meg of memory? And what if there is 16 meg of memory? Bill ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 20:16:31 on 92/10/20 GMT (by DEV0383 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 PM Resources Limits (no text entered) I'm writting PM software that uses a lot of PM's Windows, bitmaps. etc. ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 20:22:03 on 92/10/20 GMT (by DEV0383 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 PM Limits. My PM application uses a lot of PM windows, bitmaps, etc. Under OS/2 2.0, the system keeps telling that it's running out of memory resources. I like to know what the limits are, and how to increase the limits. Thanks, ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 20:25:21 on 92/10/20 GMT (by DEV0383 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 2.0 PM Limits Does anyone know what are current OS/2 2.0 PM limits? and how to change this limits ? Thanks, ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 20:58:35 on 92/10/20 GMT (by Z77JAC at BETASVM2) Subject: OS/2 PM Limits. Ref: Append at 20:22:03 on 92/10/20 GMT (by DEV0383 at OS2CUST) I don't know what the limits might be though I would expect them to larger than under 1.x. I suspect, though, that you may be running into OS2 2.0 bugs rather than actually hitting limits. Before you spend a lot of time on this, you should probably install the service pack (due very soon, see OS2MISC FORUM). There are a lot of memory related fixes in the service pack. Jerry Case, Bethesda ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 21:11:06 on 92/10/20 GMT (by CONC7L02 at DALVM41B) Subject: OS/2 2.0 PM Limits Ref: Append at 20:25:21 on 92/10/20 GMT (by DEV0383 at OS2CUST) I would ask this in the OS2PMPGN forum, this is where the PM programmers hang out. Joseph 'Some what of a PM programmer' Mogavero ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 21:11:24 on 92/10/20 GMT (by USBC238 at OS2CUST) Subject: Trap Info Does anyone know of a good reference to traps? I would like to have an idea of what is happening when a users machine traps. I've seen TRAPs C, D, E, 8 and others and wonder if they point to potential system problems. Charles Boyce - US Bank, Portland OR ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 22:46:33 on 92/10/20 GMT (by ITC1008 at HONE82) Subject: Sony CD-ROM support Ref: Append at 13:58:23 on 92/10/07 GMT (by PSC31 at OS2CUST) I have had no trouble running the sony CD-ROM in a DOS5 virtual boot machine after updating since upgrading mscdex to 2.21. I got my copy from the MICROSOFT bulletin board and its probably available in other places. Now if someone would only make this work with a os2 driver. ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 23:19:35 on 92/10/20 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST) Subject: defining com4 port in non-IBM PC Ref: Append at 17:27:48 on 92/10/20 GMT (by IL45995 at MARTLINK) Bob, To enable COM3,4 on ISA you should be able to use this info (out of Tips and Techniques document) in config.sys DEVICE=x:\OS2\COM.SYS (n,a,i) (n,a,i) x=drive where os/2 installed n=com port you are trying to access a=com port address i=com port IRQ Recommend downloading the tips and techniques document in the library area of this bbs. Mike Long - CARD Iowa State University - PC/LAN Analyst ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 23:33:53 on 92/10/20 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE81) Subject: Trap Info Ref: Append at 21:11:24 on 92/10/20 GMT (by USBC238 at OS2CUST) Charles, Many of the traps are generated by the CPU, and the documenttation of them is in one of the OS/2 tech refs. I have seen some lists floating around in abbreviated form on several BBSes. Jack Hiatt Marc Life Atlanta Ga. ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 23:38:24 on 92/10/20 GMT (by PPBWW at OS2CUST) Subject: Pure OS/2 & HPFS Ref: Append at 03:54:08 on 92/10/20 GMT (by DEV2647 at OS2CUST) I've had so many problems with HPFS I've backed off a complete HPFS partition in favor of FAT and HPFS. I recently had a pre-release HPFS fix which didn't fix the problems. (Supposedly the service pack will fix HPFS problems.) Based on info from IBM Level 2 support I reformatted my hard file and set one partition FAT for OS/2 2.0 and the other HPFS for everything else. I'm told there's no performance gain from HPFS unless the partition is greater than 100 MB and that OS/2 performs better if it resides in a partition just large enough for it. I'm running better than before, but must put my SWAPPER.DAT on the HPFS partition becuase my machine locks up when it runs out of space. I find I'm in a much better position to back up my machine.... You probably already knew this. Brian Wolfe, Phillips Petroleum Co ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 23:49:40 on 92/10/20 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST) Subject: Using 4 floppy drives with OS/2 Ver 2.0 Ref: Append at 14:11:48 on 92/10/20 GMT (by GRAPH10 at DFWVM03) Peyton, Take a look at the DEVICE [EXTDSKDD.SYS] entry in the OS/2 Command Reference. EXTDSKDD.SYS serves about the same purpose as DRIVER.SYS in DOS. You will also want to download the IBM1FLPY.ADD fix from this BBS as it include s a nice readme file about getting >2 floppies to work with OS/2 also, by using command switches on its line in config.sys. Mike Long - CARD Iowa State University - PC/LAN Analyst ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 12:45:45 on 92/10/21 GMT (by DALNK03 at OS2CUST) Subject: Trap Info Ref: Append at 21:11:24 on 92/10/20 GMT (by USBC238 at OS2CUST) Here is some info on I had found on a bulletin board once: 0000 - Divide Error (occurs during a DIV or IDIV instruction when the divisor is zero 0001 - Debug exception (examination of registers DR0-DR7 will indicate the exact condition which triggered 0002 - non-maskable interrupt (generally a memory failure) 0003 - Breakpoint 0004 - Overflow (triggered when processor executes an INTO and the OF flag is set 0005 - Bounds Check (operand is greater than limit in BOUND istruction) 0006 - Invalid Opcode 0007 - Coprocessor not available 0008 - Double Fault (an exception was triggered during the processing of an exception) 0009 - Coprocessor Segment Overrun (a page or segment violation while transferring middle portion of coprocessor operand) 000A - Invalid Task State Segment 000B - Segment not Present (P bit of a descriptor is zero - this is a restartable fault) 000C - Stack Excpetion (another of the restartable faults) 000D - General Protection Fault - some causes are: - Exceedign segment limit when referencing descriptor table - writing into read-only or code segment - reading from execute-only segment - Switching to a busy task - violating privelege rules - exceeding segment limit - transferring control to non-executable segment 000E - Page Fault (this one is real important since it is the driving force behind the entire operating system. it occurs when the processor is translating a linear address to a physical address and the page-table entry or page-directory that is needed for the address translation has a zero in its "present" bit. Pat Malneritch, Delta Air Lines ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 17:03:14 on 92/10/21 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Trap Info Ref: Append at 21:11:24 on 92/10/20 GMT (by USBC238 at OS2CUST) The real documentation on this is in the INTEL 386 handbook, it is a CPU generated piece. Irv Spalten BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 22:37:18 on 92/10/21 GMT (by DEV2647 at OS2CUST) Subject: Pure OS/2 & HPFS Ref: Append at 23:38:24 on 92/10/20 GMT (by PPBWW at OS2CUST) Hi Brian - I've been using HPFS over 1 year now. All of my important data fits on 1.44MB disks. I also have a 128MB optical drive I just installed and will be testing for backup purposes. I am now beginning to really look at OS/2 LAN Server 3.0 Advanced (beta) & 32-Bit/WIN-OS/2 3.1 (beta). I also have the PDK. I'm waiting for my CD-ROM drive which should be delivered to me this week so I can use my PDK. As to HPFS - the LS3.0 386-HPFS should be a real benefit over FAT. I'llO S/2 + Extended Services with Database Server for OS/2 + OS/2 LAN Server + Token-Ring is hard to beat! I highly recommend this combination to all new LAN users. Bob Barber at AOSI, (415) 586-3454 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 00:08:23 on 92/10/22 GMT (by SYKES at ATLSER) Subject: Pure OS/2 & HPFS Ref: Append at 22:28:42 on 92/10/18 GMT (by DEV2647 at OS2CUST) Sytos Plus 1.35 support the IBM r/w MO drive. Bill Sykes PROFS: ATLVM10(SYKES) IBMMAIL: USIB14BG Internet: Sykes@atlvm10.vnet.ibm.com From: SYKES at ATLSER ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 03:17:23 on 92/10/22 GMT (by BROWNCS at AUSVM2) Subject: Swapper Size Ref: Append at 19:34:12 on 92/10/20 GMT (by IL39279 at OS2CUST) Bill, swapper size depends almost entirely on the application load on the OS/2 system. Swap space is dynamically allocated for applications as they request virtual memory. In general, the more RAM you have on your system, the less swap space you need, under the same workload. Try asking in OS2LAN CFORUM for more responses. Charlie Brown ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 17:02:31 on 92/10/22 GMT (by TCO0065 at OS2CUST) Subject: Where'is the SERVICE PAK???? IBM keeps saying GET THE SP. WHEN??? (no text entered) TCO0065 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 17:30:51 on 92/10/22 GMT (by ECOL007 at OS2CUST) Subject: Where'is the SERVICE PAK???? IBM keeps saying GET THE SP. WHEN??? Ref: Append at 17:02:31 on 92/10/22 GMT (by TCO0065 at OS2CUST) When the Service Pak is available, there should be a notification on the OS2MISC Cforum and in in News and Announcements. There appears to be a problem with SVGA support on the Service Pak, this being the current delay. You can keep current on progress by checking the OS2MISC Cforum. Hope that helps. Dick Heider, Ecolab, St Paul, MN ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 19:39:48 on 92/10/22 GMT (by AAAF0CY at OS2CUST) Subject: Utility to create diskette images I have used the LOADDSKF utility to create a diskette from an image, but is the utility available to create these images? We have some utilities to create images, but none of them compress the files, so the database of diskette images is getting large. Before writing one, I was hoping that the .DSK creation program would be available. Anyone know where I can get it? Jim Sauber, MN Mutual ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 21:19:55 on 92/10/22 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Subject: Utility to create diskette images Ref: Append at 19:39:48 on 92/10/22 GMT (by AAAF0CY at OS2CUST) Sorry, but the SAVEDSKF program (to create LOADDSKF images) has not been released for customers. Have you tried maybe using PKZip to compress your disk images? I know that would be a two step process, but it might be easier than writing your own compression code. Also, there are some licensed products available that do compressed disk images. One that I know of (but haven't really used) is TELEDISK by Sydex. You might want to call them at (503) 683-6033 for more information. Brent Allen - IBM LAN Systems Integration Services Southlake, TX ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 03:33:40 on 92/10/23 GMT (by DEV2647 at OS2CUST) Subject: Pure OS/2 & HPFS Ref: Append at 00:08:23 on 92/10/22 GMT (by SYKES at ATLSER) Thank you Bill - Systos Plus 1.35 - What are the prices for the various versions? Bob Barber at AOSI, (415) 586-3454 ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 13:25:11 on 92/10/23 GMT (by SYKES at ATLSER) Subject: Pure OS/2 & HPFS Ref: Append at 03:33:40 on 92/10/23 GMT (by DEV2647 at OS2CUST) I'm not sure what you mean by "various versions"? I think there is only the "current" version. 1.35 is the first version that runs on OS/2 2.0 (prior versions only ran on 1.x). Anyway, the IBM announcement letter for Systos Plus 1.35 for OS/2 is 292-527 (if you have access to them). The part number is 53G0927 and the list price is 195 US dollars. Quantity discounts are available. Bill Sykes PROFS: ATLVM10(SYKES) IBMMAIL: USIB14BG Internet: Sykes@atlvm10.vnet.ibm.com From: SYKES at ATLSER ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 14:36:39 on 92/10/23 GMT (by DELU50 at OS2CUST) Subject: Does 2.0 use 32Mb of RAM Does OS/2 2.0 use 32Mb of RAM memory? How can I tell how much memory is actually being used? I am using a PS/2 Model 90. ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:00:54 on 92/10/23 GMT (by CONC7L02 at DALVM41B) Subject: Does 2.0 use 32Mb of RAM Ref: Append at 14:36:39 on 92/10/23 GMT (by DELU50 at OS2CUST) Yes, OS/2 can use 32Mb of RAM, You need to add the GT16MB fix that you can get off the BBS, I use 28Mb on my machine without any problem. If you wanted to find out how much 'real' memory the system has on it you would have to write a device driver to find this type of info. There might be easier way to do this but I am not sure. Joseph Mogavero ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 20:37:13 on 92/10/24 GMT (by ABLI001 at OS2CUST) Subject: Does 2.0 use 32Mb of RAM Ref: Append at 16:39:05 on 92/10/24 GMT (by IL41468 at HONE85) Just a dozen years ago, I thought I got a good deal paying $20 for a 16k upgrade to a trs-80 that a friend didn't need. (That trs-80 just went in the trash last year, so I figure that that generation of hardware costs about $200/year to keep running. Hopefully this generation will be as good.) ->Rich Corbett; ABC Liquors, Inc., Orlando, FL (NASPA: CORBRIC7) ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 18:37:29 on 92/10/26 GMT (by DVASKEL at CHGVMIC1) Subject: Utility to create diskette images Ref: Append at 12:40:17 on 92/10/25 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) What I've used several times with success is the Info-ZIP's 32-bit Zip (version 1.9) for OS/2. It claims compatibility with the upcoming PKZIP 2.x and fully preserves all extended attributes. You need to use the companion UnZip (version 5.0) or the alpha test PKUNZIP 1.93 to unpack files it creates. I'm not sure where the "official" distribution for these files is, but I found them on an FTP site on Internet: ftp-os2.nmsu.edu. Darius Vaskelis * University of Illinois Account Team * Chicago ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 19:37:52 on 92/10/26 GMT (by SAMI3QU at OS2CUST) Subject: Problem upgrading motherboard/video card We have a Northgate Slimline that flamed-out the other day (bad motherboard). It *was* a 386/20, IDE HD, and built-in VGA. We tried putting the existing HD into a new system (386/40, Everex video) but the system hangs during boot. We get the OS/2 logo screen, but shortly thereafter the system hangs and the screen is blank except for the following error message (?) in the upper left- hand corner: c0000005 The old Northgate will still boot intermittently and is able to boot off the same HD. The problem may be related to the video card. If we disable the on-board VGA and install any of several video cards in the Northgate, it will hang on the OS/2 logo screen (but we don't get the "c0000005" thing). If we install OS/2 on the 386/40 (using different HD) the system works fine. Can someone shed some light on this problem? Any help appreciated. Mark Thompson - Coal Services Corp., St. Louis MO ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 19:50:51 on 92/10/26 GMT (by UNCS018 at HONE82) Subject: Does 2.0 use 32Mb of RAM Ref: Append at 15:22:42 on 92/10/26 GMT (by AABA0EM at OS2CUST) The GT16MB fix doesn't work for all machines, I have a model 95 that doesn't reconize more that 16 Meg of 24 meg on the machine. I am told the SP fixes this problem but It's not hear yet. Leonard "Waiting.... Waiting.... Waiting...." Campbell ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 19:54:04 on 92/10/26 GMT (by AAAF0CY at OS2CUST) Subject: Utility to create diskette images Ref: Append at 21:19:55 on 92/10/22 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Can I request that SAVEDSKF be released to the public? Even on an as-is basis like the rest of the tools on OS2BBS? Jim Sauber, MN Mutual ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 20:42:26 on 92/10/26 GMT (by AABA0EM at OS2CUST) Subject: Problem upgrading motherboard/video card Ref: Append at 19:37:52 on 92/10/26 GMT (by SAMI3QU at OS2CUST) Mark, Does the Everex system have a Western Digital SVGA chip set with 1MB of VRAM? If this is the case your problem is caused by the SVGA driver not correctly identifying the 1MB of VRAM. There are three ways that I know of to fix the problem. 1. Remove 512KB of the VRAM. 2. Use the updated SVGA Driver from this BBS. 3. Change the CONFIG.SYS to use the standard VGA driver instead of the SVGA Driver. NT (Naughty Tricks) Bob Holmes, Southern California Gas ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 21:33:35 on 92/10/26 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Utility to create diskette images Ref: Append at 19:54:04 on 92/10/26 GMT (by AAAF0CY at OS2CUST) Sorry, that is not available. We did NOT forsee a need for a user to have this... It will take some time to track down how to make this sanitized for external distribution. Irv Spalten BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 22:04:18 on 92/10/26 GMT (by NAAO3IY at HONE83) Subject: Does 2.0 use 32Mb of RAM Ref: Append at 16:39:05 on 92/10/24 GMT (by IL41468 at HONE85) Now, now. 64KB for a 360 was only about the size of a half-gallon milk carton. It was the power supply and the fans that went with it that made it require a forklift. John Kennedy, Hoechst Celanese (The OS/2 Hobbit) ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 14:54:25 on 92/10/27 GMT (by WZ00860 at OS2CUST) Subject: Interrupt Masking We have assumed that IRQ0 is higher priority than IRQ1 - True??. During interr upt processing, what is the masking arrangement? Are higher priority interrupts serviced and lower priority interrupts masked? What about same level interrupt ? We are experiencing a lot of overhead in a multiport comm system (32 lines) and subsequently losing some data. It appears to be interrupt level processing . Any suggestions for profiling interrupt processing by interrupt? ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 18:35:40 on 92/10/27 GMT (by SAMI3QU at OS2CUST) Subject: Problem upgrading motherboard/video card Ref: Append at 20:42:26 on 92/10/26 GMT (by AABA0EM at OS2CUST) Bob, Thanks for pointing me in the right direction, although this problem doesn't exactly fit the description in APAR PJ03721. The Everex card is their Viewpoint Standard VGA. I believe it does use a Western Digital chipset (can't get through to verify this) but it has 256k of DRAM, not 1 meg VRAM. I removed the reference to BVHSVGA from the CONFIG.SYS and the system came right up. Mark Thompson - Coal Services Corp., St. Louis MO ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 15:12:09 on 92/10/28 GMT (by AAAF0CY at OS2CUST) Subject: Utility to create diskette images Ref: Append at 21:33:35 on 92/10/26 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) What is the official way to change your mind about foreseeing a user having need for this? This is very frustrating... time working on a utility to do this instead of wasting time on this, it would probably be done by now! Jim Sauber, MN Mutual ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 19:30:20 on 92/10/28 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Utility to create diskette images Ref: Append at 15:12:09 on 92/10/28 GMT (by AAAF0CY at OS2CUST) It was NOT my call, I just got it because we needed a utility to allow us to SHIP images, such as the SP. I do not even know if the save part was EVER done, but in the INTERNAL version. I would ask, but the person who supplied me is out for a while now, but I will ask his backup. Irv Spalten BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 20:48:11 on 92/10/28 GMT (by SUN0012 at OS2CUST) Subject: CSD Strategy? I noticed the appearance of CSD 5100 for OS/2 EE 1.3 today that is 8 diskettes and requires CSD 5050 to be applied beforehand. I also notice the appearance of service pack for OS/2 2.0 that is 14 diskettes long. Is the trend away from cumulative CSD's because of the beginning of electronic distribution? What is the difference between a service pack and a CSD? Jim Snively, Sun Company, Inc ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 00:07:27 on 92/10/29 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8) Subject: CSD Strategy? Ref: Append at 20:48:11 on 92/10/28 GMT (by SUN0012 at OS2CUST) Jim, A Service Pack is virtually the same as a CSD with two main differences. First, according to IBM rules on such things, a CSD can only have fixes to APARs, no new features allowed. They have another thing called an SPE which is new features but no fixes. We didn't really have a name for what the 2.0 "thing" is; fixes and new features. So the term Service Pack was invented. The other difference is that a Service Pack will usually (but not always) have a charge associated if you want it sent on diskettes. CSD's are free, even if it means sending tons of free diskettes to anyone who asks for it. These are the main differences I have noticed, there may be other ones more subtle. But for the most part, CSD's are pre OS/2 2.0, their new name is Service Pack as of OS/2 2.0 and beyond. Stephen Poole OS/2 Service and Support - IBM Austin, TX ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 17:24:16 on 92/10/29 GMT (by IL04688 at HONE81) Subject: Service Pack Fonts Ref: Append at 00:07:27 on 92/10/29 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8) Is there any way to change the default font the service pack uses for an OS/2 window. It may be that "ISO Compliant" means "formulated to sell our best monitors", but even with an 8515 it is difficult to read, and on an 8513 it is even worse. Changing it from the 14x8 default size to 16x8 helps quite a bit, but then it displays fewer lines in the same space. I asked this before in the misc forum but received no reply, so I thought I would try it again here. Leo Tornow, Northwest Pipeline, SLC UT ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 17:51:40 on 92/10/29 GMT (by WZ00633 at OS2CUST) Subject: Where is PMHPO What has happen to the updated version of PMHPO I was to receive???????? I am still running ver. 1.0 sent to me in June '92. The impression I got was that all WZ customers should have received their copy by now. I also did not receive a copy of the ForBrows utility. If i need to call someone please let me have the number. I was given the number 1-800-457-1283 but can't thru on this number. I don't have a SE to contact so please give me a clue as what I need to do to get the updated software. Thanks, Leonard E. Rickan (First National Bank of Chicago) ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 18:50:55 on 92/10/29 GMT (by BCGA021 at MARTLINK) Subject: Changing screen resolution after SP I raced home on my lunch hour to install the SP on my home machine...that went as smooth as silk. Then I installed SVGA support as described in the README file (get your OS/2 GA install diskettes out for this - you'll need diskettes 6-15). No problem there. Then I looked in the Master Help Index to find out how to change the screen resolution. It said to go: OS/2 System ==> System Setup ==> System and then select the SCREEN tab. I did all that, but when I got there lo and behold there IS no SCREEN tab. GA Master Help says the same thing. Does anybody know what's wrong here and what to do about it? Tim Fansler (BCBS/GA Columbus, GA) ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 20:04:38 on 92/10/29 GMT (by LNK1SM5 at TPAVMPS2) Subject: Where is PMHPO Ref: Append at 17:51:40 on 92/10/29 GMT (by WZ00633 at OS2CUST) Leonard, I will try to find out why you have not received your new PMHPO and FORBROWSE yet and also make sure that you get a copy. The phone number you should call for OS/2 BBS information is 1(800)547-1283 and for IBMLINK problems call 1(800)847-7211. Thanks... Ryan Bickling IBM 0S/2 BBS Service and Support - Austin, TX ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 20:46:17 on 92/10/29 GMT (by CONC7L02 at DALVM41B) Subject: Where is PMHPO Ref: Append at 17:51:40 on 92/10/29 GMT (by WZ00633 at OS2CUST) I have called someone about this If you do not get something in the next couple of days append a note here please. Joseph Mogavero ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 23:28:15 on 92/10/29 GMT (by THRUMD at SYDVM1) Subject: Changing screen resolution after SP Ref: Append at 18:50:55 on 92/10/29 GMT (by BCGA021 at MARTLINK) This tab will only exist if your display driver supports multiple resolutions. I think this is only XGA and Tseng ET4000 at this stage (8514 and other SVGA such as Trident should be on the way). Dave ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 00:17:49 on 92/10/30 GMT (by PPBWW at OS2CUST) Subject: Backing Up Files to Floppy? We have a real need to backup OS/2 files to multiple 3 1/2" diskettes. No, we don't have too much time on our hands, but we do have very limited budgets and many pre-SCSI machines which make tape backup options less than plesant. We are getting more and more OS/2 boxes LAN connected, but our Novell server can't save everybodys stuff, nor would we want to do that. (There'd be absolutely no incentive to clean stuff up!) We might be open to backing up files to MVS or VM, but that would degrade our network. I'd really like to be able to say, "Run this program on the server..." or "Run this program from drive A:..." and have a program that would backup files, selectively, from local hard-files to multiple diskettes, all the while compressing and saving as much time as possible. We don't want to buy as many copies of backup software as we have OS/2 boxes, nor can we use host, LAN, tape, or CD r/w ROM devices in the near future. Using BACKUP/RESTORE is not adequate either. What's out there besides PKZIP for OS/2 or Fastback. And what about backing up HPFS drives and integrity of EAs. Surely there's some solution.... Thanks. Brian Wolfe, Phillips Petroleum Co ----- OS2QANDA CFORUM appended at 00:22:22 on 92/10/30 GMT (by PPBWW at OS2CUST) Subject: Flavors of Extended Services? Could someone please help me understand the differences between these flavors of Extended Services: 96F8326 Extended Services for OS/2 595.00 FC 2778 96F8328 Ext Services w/ Admin Kit 760.00 FC 2780 04G1049 Ext Services w/ DB Server 1,995.00 FC 2278 04G1047 Ext Svcs w/ DB Server w/ Admin 2,160.00 FC 2280 I know ES is Comm and DB Manager, but what RDS limitations/features do these offerings contain? And which of these is the normal upgrade path for a 1.3EE copy of OS/2? Are there no additional license offerings of ES? Thanks. Brian Wolfe, Phillips Petroleum Co