OS/2 Professional Developers Kit 1992 November/Disc01/Disc01.mdf/os2bbs/os2inst.cfo

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Subject: Erased BOOT.DOS file
Ref:     Append at 23:14:36 on 92/07/06 GMT (by BCFLYNN at NYCVMIC1)

We have been cloning machines in my area for about three years.
Every OS/2 machine gets dual boot with our process and we have NEVER
had any trouble.  We have installed on both clean machines and machines
that were running a previous version of OS/2.

We have had no trouble from OS/2 2.0 yet either.

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Subject: Erased BOOT.DOS file
Ref:     Append at 11:32:22 on 92/07/07 GMT (by N$H52HAL at RALVM11)

There is another way.

If you go browsing through this BBS there is a forum called TESTER
CANSWERS (F10->VIEW->SELECT FILES).  The first message in it describes
how one can implement or recover dual boot.  It requires a small
program from IBM, COPYBR which is on the OS2TOOLS disk.

Michael Harper - Cdn Depository for Securities, Ltd

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Subject: LAD/2 Sans SE
Ref:     Append at 13:40:54 on 92/07/04 GMT (by WZ00511 at OS2CUST)

If you want a product to do LAN-based OS/2 2.0 installation which you
can use independently of IBM, I suggest you look at LAN Installation
Utility/2.  Call Bill Kreps on [phone] for ordering information.

Chris Gage
LIU/2 Author

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Subject: Erased BOOT.DOS file
Ref:     Append at 11:49:49 on 92/07/07 GMT (by XXCDSX26 at TORVMCOP)

Michael,
  How do you access the OS2TOOLS disk? I have access just the ESDTOOLS
disk where 78 old file resident.

Geza Szivos
NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 15:38:43 on 92/07/07 GMT (by SSIA013 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Installing mouse on COM3 (IRQ5) ??

I know that installation of the COM.SYS driver has parameters that allows me
to tell OS/2 what/where to find the com ports ie: COM.SYS (3,3e8,5) wouldplace
COM3 on IRQ5 at address 3e8 -- thus allowing three com ports to be used at once
(we're talking about an ISA machine here-specifically a gateway 486/33).

My question is:  Is there a way to connect the MOUSE to a specific com port?
                 I've noticed that the PCLOGIC.SYS SERIAL=COMx should do this,
                 but does it have the "smarts" to know that my COM3 is now
                 configured for IRQ5??
                 How do I operate with COM1 and COM2 as com ports and specify
                 com3 as my Mouse port on COM3 IRQ5 (provided the hardware is
                 setup correctly)?!?

Lost on this one...

Paul Kurr -- Stockholder Systems, Norcross GA

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Subject: Erased BOOT.DOS file
Ref:     Append at 15:05:24 on 92/07/07 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP)

Hello Geza,

  TOOLCAT OS2TOOLS should do it.

Karri Mooney.

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Subject: Erased BOOT.DOS file
Ref:     Append at 15:47:41 on 92/07/07 GMT (by KARRI at WINVMK)

Karri,
  I'm 'external' not IBM-er. (like Michael). For me the CM \CMS commands
are not accessible. All my selections are  menus and from PF-keys.

Geza Szivos
NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 16:10:03 on 92/07/07 GMT (by KARRI at WINVMK)
Subject: Erased BOOT.DOS file
Ref:     Append at 16:03:03 on 92/07/07 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP)

Hello Geza,

  My apologies...I appended as if to an internal forum. My mistake.

Cheers, Karri.

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Subject: Erased BOOT.DOS file
Ref:     Append at 16:10:03 on 92/07/07 GMT (by KARRI at WINVMK)

Thank you all for the assistance.  Sorry about the confusion on OS2TOOLS.
Yes, this is an IBM internal disk.

I have my problem figured out.
-Dena Laterza

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Subject: Erased BOOT.DOS file
Ref:     Append at 15:05:24 on 92/07/07 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP)

Geza:

I ask my IBM rep to log on and go for lunch.

Michael Harper - Cdn Depository for Securities, Ltd

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 17:37:35 on 92/07/07 GMT (by XXCDSX26 at TORVMCOP)
Subject: Erased BOOT.DOS file
Ref:     Append at 16:03:03 on 92/07/07 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP)

Geza:

<<I'm 'external' not IBM-er. (like Michael)>>

If, from this, you think I work for IBM, I don't.  I'm just
a noset sob who can sometimes weasel things out of my IBM
reps.

Michael Harper - Cdn Depository for Securities, Ltd

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 19:29:27 on 92/07/07 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP)
Subject: Erased BOOT.DOS file
Ref:     Append at 17:37:35 on 92/07/07 GMT (by XXCDSX26 at TORVMCOP)

Sorry for my English, I meant that I'm not an IBM-er just like you.

Geza Szivos
NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 19:34:23 on 92/07/07 GMT (by SBNS8I5 at OS2CUST)
Subject: E.S./LanReq

During Installation of Extended Services & Lan Requester (both Ver. 2.0)
the Lan Requester does not work if if it is loaded before Extended Services.
After reformatting, Loading OS/2 2.0 Base, Extended Services (3270 emulation),
then Lan Requester, it all works.  If Lan Requester is loaded before Extended
Services is loaded...  An error message pops up saying that the requester is
not configured correctly.
I didn't see anywhere in the documentation where the installation order of the
2 products is critical... Did I miss something?

R.L. Quijalvo

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 20:29:25 on 92/07/07 GMT (by LXM0302 at OS2CUST)
Subject: SYS0041: Data error

Installing OS/2 2.0 on a PS2/70 with 115MB harddisk.  The install diskette
completed OK, put in distette 1 and it completed until the menu was to come
up and received this error:

SYS0041:Data Error (Cyclic redundancy check) on A:

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 21:22:32 on 92/07/07 GMT (by N$H52HAL at RALVM11)
Subject: E.S./LanReq
Ref:     Append at 19:34:23 on 92/07/07 GMT (by SBNS8I5 at OS2CUST)

ES is VERY bad about not recognizing that other programs are installed.

Whenever you do anything with ES (install, REINST, etc.) it will mess
up all your other communication programs.

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Subject: E.S./LanReq
Ref:     Append at 21:22:32 on 92/07/07 GMT (by N$H52HAL at RALVM11)

Not only the installed drivers , but my desktop too. I used to collect
the ES,CM,DBM fulders to my main folder and I get duplicates there,
plus when I delete any of them there goes the other too. So I end up
with a bunch of extra folders.

Geza Szivos
NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 15:39:52 on 92/07/08 GMT (by USBC238 at OS2CUST)
Subject: No Shutdown

After a recent upgrade from 1.3 EE to 2.0 with ES 1.0 and LS 2.0, the
WpS had no Shut down or Lock up functions on the menu.  Is there any
way to get them back, short of a reinstall?

Charles Boyce - US Bank, Portland OR

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 16:24:57 on 92/07/08 GMT (by GCHIN at NYCVMIC1)
Subject: OS2 2.0 install
Ref:

Does anyone out there know if OS/2 2.0 will install with
a Perstor controller ???

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 19:34:01 on 92/07/08 GMT (by IL26761 at OS2CUST)
Subject: No Shutdown
Ref: Append at 15:39:52 on 92/07/08 GMT (by USBC238 at OS2CUST)

Did you click RMB?

Jack Hiatt  MARC-Life  Atlanta Ga.     P*hxft68a

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 19:53:41 on 92/07/08 GMT (by SBRZAYD at OS2CUST)
Subject: No Shutdown
Ref: Append at 19:34:01 on 92/07/08 GMT (by IL26761 at OS2CUST)

We had the same problem (and still don't know why) a little while ago.
I went in and copied the OS2.INI, OS2SYS.INI, and CONFIG.SYS files from
\OS2\INSTALL into the appropriate places (\OS2, \OS2, and \, respectively)
after booting from the install disks, and then rebooted. Everything works
fine.  Note that if you had Comm Manager set to start itself automatically
at boot in 1.3, OS/2 2.0 will, as part of its migration efforts, try to
automatically start the 1.3 Comm Manager under 2.0.  For us this resulted
in a hard crash (under HPFS at least).  If OS/2 tries to start CM, quickly
press Ctrl-C to prevent this from happening, and then install 2.0 ES!

Chris Corry
American Management Systems

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 21:00:43 on 92/07/08 GMT (by USBC238 at OS2CUST)
Subject: No Shutdown
Ref: Append at 19:34:01 on 92/07/08 GMT (by IL26761 at OS2CUST)

What is RMB?  It does not ring a bell with me.  I did migrate the existing 1.3
os2.ini and os2sys.ini - Could this have caused a problem?

Charles Boyce - US Bank, Portland OR

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 21:25:52 on 92/07/08 GMT (by U6200 at BTVLABVM)
Subject: No Shutdown
Ref:     Append at 21:00:43 on 92/07/08 GMT (by USBC238 at OS2CUST)

I believe that Jack meant RMB to mean Right Mouse Button!

Gary Coryer

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 03:57:14 on 92/07/09 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP)
Subject: No Shutdown
Ref:     Append at 21:25:52 on 92/07/08 GMT (by U6200 at BTVLABVM)

On a LAPTOP, we sometimes forget to attach the mouse before we
turn the machine on. OS2 boots up and reports it will ignore
line xxx in the config.sys. That line loads the mouse, and the system
knows the mouse is not attached! So you press return, and the
WPS comes up normally. One can navagate somewhat with the keyboard,
but what keys can you press to get the WPS menu with Shutdown to
come up? We've been turning the power off, attaching the mouse,
and turning the power on again - but this latter is a no-no, and
eventually there is bound to be trouble!

Elliott M. Avedon
University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1
[phone] x2204

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 12:13:03 on 92/07/09 GMT (by HAYNIE at OS2CUST)
Subject: SMS OMTI 8627:

Has anyone been able to get a SMS OMTI 8627 RLL/ESDI harddisk controller
board to work with OS/2 2.0?????

Robert P. Bartoszak - Mobil Oil Corporation

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 12:30:40 on 92/07/09 GMT (by PERSHNG at YKTVMH)
Subject: No Shutdown
Ref:     Append at 15:39:52 on 92/07/08 GMT (by USBC238 at OS2CUST)

Try the MAKEINI trick before doing anything more drastic (like clobbering
your OS2.INI files or re-installing).  Boot up from the floppies (i.e.,
boot the install disk, insert disk #1 when asked, and then hit ESC when it
tells you to "hit ENTER or ESC"), and then change to the \OS2 directory
and type:

         MAKEINI OS2.INI INI.RC
         MAKEINI OS2SYS.INI INISYS.RC

Then, delete the hidden file WP ROOT. SF in the startable partition:

         ATTRIB -h -s -r "WP ROOT. SF"   (for HPFS)
    or:  ATTRIB -h -s -r WP_ROOT._SF     (for FAT)

followed by:

         DEL "WP ROOT. SF"   (for HPFS)
    or:  DEL WP_ROOT._SF     (for FAT)

this is from the "OS/2 Tips and Techniques" document, which I believe is
available to customers (tho' I don't know what channels it is available
through...).

John A. Pershing Jr.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 12:32:56 on 92/07/09 GMT (by TJBARRO at CHGVMIC1)
Subject: SYS0041: Data error
Ref:     Append at 20:29:25 on 92/07/07 GMT (by LXM0302 at OS2CUST)

A CRC is generally a good indication that you have a bad diskette.  My
experience has shown that CRC errors sometimes are machine dependent.
Older machines usually are not as "forgiving" in their floppy drive
technology.

Timothy J. Barron           IBM Workstation Systems Engineer
TJBARRO at CHGVMIC1         Chicago Insurance Branch 098

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 12:37:38 on 92/07/09 GMT (by TJBARRO at CHGVMIC1)
Subject: SMS OMTI 8627:
Ref:     Append at 12:13:03 on 92/07/09 GMT (by HAYNIE at OS2CUST)

Do you have the latest fixes?  There is a fix for MFM/RLL drives.
Internally the fix package is called IBM1S506 and externally (BBS)
I believe the name is IBM506.ZIP.  The fix is for installation,
noise, and poor performance on these types of drives.

Timothy J. Barron           IBM Workstation Systems Engineer
TJBARRO at CHGVMIC1         Chicago Insurance Branch 098

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 12:47:01 on 92/07/09 GMT (by GOBEILLE at WSCVM)
Subject: No Shutdown
Ref:     Append at 03:57:14 on 92/07/09 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP)

When I turn on my laptop without the mouse, I don't bother
searching for SHUTDOWN via the keyboard.  I use C-A-D to shut
down, do a power off when disk activity stops, then plug in my
mouse and restart.  I figure that since I didn't DO anything,
it wouldn't hurt.

I know I'm being a bit naive here since OS/2 obviously does a LOT
just during its startup.  But, I've never had a problem resulting
from this (6meg laptop, HPFS only), and it's made me realize that the
next time I buy a laptop, I'm getting one with a built-in mouse (*grin*).

Janet Gobeille

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 13:18:46 on 92/07/09 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8)
Subject: SYS3175 error on install over v1.3
Ref:     Append at 13:49:22 on 92/07/02 GMT (by PPL0013 at OS2CUST)

Sally,

  The most likely cause of an intermittent SYS3175 not reproducible
at will or on other machines is a questionable "mother" (CPU) board
in the PS/2. Unfortunately, diagnostics usually won't find this unless
the error happens to occur while running the diagnostic.

  If a machine is doing this regularly at random places in the software,
the best thing to do is swap out the mother board. Contact your hardware
support rep. for more assistance.

Stephen Poole
OS/2 Service and Support - IBM Austin, TX

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 13:28:12 on 92/07/09 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8)
Subject: No Shutdown
Ref:     Append at 21:00:43 on 92/07/08 GMT (by USBC238 at OS2CUST)

Charles,

  If by "migrate" you mean you copied your INI files from 1.3 to 2.0,
YES, this will cause a lot of problems. The INI files for the two
versions are not compatible or interchangeable.

Stephen Poole
OS/2 Service and Support - IBM Austin, TX

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 13:31:28 on 92/07/09 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8)
Subject: No Shutdown
Ref:     Append at 03:57:14 on 92/07/09 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP)

Elliott,

  You can access LOCKUP and SHUTDOWN without a mouse. First, get the
focus to the 2.0 Desktop. One way to do this is the CTRL-ESC and
select the 2.0 Desktop. Once in focus, a SHIFT-F10 will display the
pop-up with LOCKUP and SHUTDOWN.

Stephen Poole
OS/2 Service and Support - IBM Austin, TX

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 13:35:43 on 92/07/09 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8)
Subject: SMS OMTI 8627:
Ref:     Append at 12:37:38 on 92/07/09 GMT (by TJBARRO at CHGVMIC1)

  The fix mentioned is available on the OS/2 BBS in the Software
Library as fix PJ04045 and can be downloaded. (If you can download)

Stephen Poole
OS/2 Service and Support - IBM Austin, TX

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 13:55:55 on 92/07/09 GMT (by NIBM009 at RALVM18)
Subject: customize setup w/ applications and setting
Ref:     Append at 14:25:08 on 92/06/26 GMT (by HITTR at OS2CUST)

This is almost the right way to do things.  The steps to do a shutdown
are as follows:
1) Get to the desktop you can do this by:
A) Ctrl-Esc and then cursoring to OS/2 2.0 Desktop and hitting enter
B) Using Alt-Shift-Tab if a window currently has the focus.
2) Deselect all object on the desktop.  This is done by pressing
Ctrl-Backslash (\)
3) Bring up the context menu for the desktop.  Press Shift-F10.
4) Select what you wish to do, and press enter.

If most of what you do with OS/2 is keyboard oriented to start with...
You may find that it is faster to shutdown this way.
Chris Dukes (End User Services)

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 14:27:17 on 92/07/09 GMT (by SSIA013 at OS2CUST)
Subject: What's the real dirt on IRQ's and LPT's (ISA) ?

Does OS/2 really use the IRQ's with relation to LPT's on ISA machines, or is
IRQ 7 and 5 available for other hardware?

Paul Kurr -- Stockholder Systems, Norcross GA

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 14:47:59 on 92/07/09 GMT (by XXWESB22 at TORVMCOP)
Subject: customize setup w/ applications and setting
Ref:     Append at 13:55:55 on 92/07/09 GMT (by NIBM009 at RALVM18)

I have found the best way to do a shutdown is the following
   1)   Ctrl-esc to bring up Task List
   2)   Select the Desktop (usually PgUp works best)
   3)   If an Icon is highlighted press the Spacebar (this de-highlights)
   4)   Press Shift-f10 and select Shutdown
   5)   If this brings up an Objects list as opposed to the Desktop list
        press esc and then Spacebar and then Shift-f10.
Works for me!!!

Gareth Jones
ISM - Information Systems Management
Regina, SK Phone [phone]

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 16:26:05 on 92/07/09 GMT (by USBC238 at OS2CUST)
Subject: No Shutdown
Ref: Append at 13:31:28 on 92/07/09 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8)

For all who followed this thread:  What happened is that by doing an
upgrade from 1.3 to 2.0, the 1.3 *.ini files existed prior to
upgrade.  During the install of 2.0, these two .ini files were read
and many of the desktop settings stayed the same (e.g. Colors,
groups, etc.). The only problem was that there was no lockup and
shut down on the desktop menu. This may be because they did not exist
in 1.3.  To solve the situation I copied the os2.ini file from the
C:\OS2\INSTALL directory to C:\OS2 and rebooted.  This kept all my
colors, groups and gave me the shut down and lockup on the desktop menu.

Charles Boyce - US Bank, Portland OR

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 18:09:27 on 92/07/09 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP)
Subject: No Shutdown
Ref:     Append at 03:57:14 on 92/07/09 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP)

Elliott,
  Use the Ctrl+Alt+Del and wait until it starts to boot again,
and turn it off.

If you can focus on the Desktop, the Shift+PF10 bings up the menu with
the shutdown option.
Geza Szivos
NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 19:35:54 on 92/07/09 GMT (by HALLERMA at BCRVMPC1)
Subject: What's the real dirt on IRQ's and LPT's (ISA) ?
Ref:     Append at 14:27:17 on 92/07/09 GMT (by SSIA013 at OS2CUST)

Yes, OS/2 2.0 really does use IRQ's for printing. IRQ 7 is assigned
to LPT1 and IRQ 5 is assigned to LPT2. If you have LPT3 it is also
assigned to IRQ 7 and shared in a sneaky way with LPT1. I can't tell
you the trick because I would then have to kill you <grin>.

                                     Mel Hallerman

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Subject: What's the real dirt on IRQ's and LPT's (ISA) ?
Ref: Append at 19:35:54 on 92/07/09 GMT (by HALLERMA at BCRVMPC1)

Ouch!  So that means that on an ISA machine, I MUST find a seperate IRQ for
*every* thing that may need one (even though they might not be used at the
same time). These ISA machines are quite restricted (now I know why IBM is
"pushing" MCA) -- I have to get a bunch of hardware stuffed into anISA machine
-- all each taking an interrupt.  Hey, is there any way that LPT2
can use IRQ7 along with LPT1 & 3 (like that sneaky way), so that I may free
up an IRQ line?

...Trying to stuff a com port, T/R card, mouse (serial), tape drive, and
   three lpt ports into an ISA machine....

Paul Kurr -- Stockholder Systems, Norcross GA

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Subject: Changing Keyboard from At to Enhanced 101
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----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 15:18:19 on 92/07/10 GMT (by HALLERMA at BCRVMPC1)
Subject: What's the real dirt on IRQ's and LPT's (ISA) ?
Ref:     Append at 13:18:56 on 92/07/10 GMT (by SSIA013 at OS2CUST)

No, the smeaky thing only works for LPT1 and LPT3. I wonder what would
happen if I have only two printers and define them as LPT1 and LPT3?
Would that free up IRQ 5?

                                    Mel Hallerman

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Subject: What's the real dirt on IRQ's and LPT's (ISA) ?
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----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 19:31:11 on 92/07/10 GMT (by HALLERMA at BCRVMPC1)
Subject: What's the real dirt on IRQ's and LPT's (ISA) ?
Ref:     Append at 17:23:37 on 92/07/10 GMT (by SSIA013 at OS2CUST)

It might work. Easy enough to try.

                             Mel Hallerman

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 21:39:19 on 92/07/10 GMT (by MARTZ at GDLVM2)
Subject: Shutdown without a mouse
Ref:     Append at 03:57:14 on 92/07/09 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP)

Elliott,

The sequence of keys to do a shutdown is documented in both the hard copy doc
and the on-line doc that comes with 2.0. I mention this not to chide you, but
rather to let you know that, yes, the info really can be found!

I'll append the location in the hard copy later (my doc is at home).

The info in the on-line doc can be found by:

   1) Bringing up the WPS menu with the RMB (right mouse button),
   2) Select "keys help" cascaded menu under "help".
   3) Double click on the "Object Keys" hypertext word.
   4) The info you want is part of the description for "Shift+F10"
      (I've clipped it below. Item (2) is what you want).

    Shift+F10

         (1) Display the pop-up menu for the object on
         which the cursor is located.  (2) Display the pop-up
         menu for the desktop by doing the following: press
         Alt+Shift+Tab and release; press Ctrl+\ (Backslash)
         and release; then press Shift+F10.

Nooooooooow ... don't you feel foolish for asking after it turned out to be
soooooo easy to find?  :-) More seriously, I hope info is of help. You can also
(as others mentioned) do CTL-ALT-DEL) to start a reboot and your disk cache
buffers will at least be flushed. When OS/2 hangs on me, I always try to
reboot prior to just powering off.

You know, the really frightening thing is that I find I can now do this key
sequence from memory. And I don't need to! My mouse works just fine!)

John Martz        "Better products through conferencing!"       MARTZ at GDLVM2
tie 852-5979                 Prodigy: CCCR60A         Glendale Lab/Endicott, NY

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 21:43:18 on 92/07/10 GMT (by MARTZ at GDLVM2)
Subject: No Shutdown
Ref:     Append at 13:31:28 on 92/07/09 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8)

Stephen, Your way is just too easy!  I mean where's the challenge?  I prefer
the way the doc tells you how to do it. Now THERE'S a challenging key sequence!
:) -john

John Martz        "Better products through conferencing!"       MARTZ at GDLVM2
tie 852-5979                 Prodigy: CCCR60A         Glendale Lab/Endicott, NY

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 23:05:40 on 92/07/10 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8)
..... OS2INST CFORUM modified at 12:48:48 on 92/07/16 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8)
Subject: Mouse Problems with OS/2

** WARNING - VERY LONG APPEND FOLLOWS - **

  The following is a compliation of all known mouse problems and
mouse install problems with OS/2 2.0. This was done by ###########
of OS/2 Service and Support, Austin.

| Had to remove the author's name. He was getting too many calls
| from IBM'ers wanting more help. Couldn't get his regular job done.

  You may want to use the download capability of the BBS to
download and print this append. The FIND option may also
prove useful.

I hope it helps solve your mouse problem!

Stephen Poole
OS/2 Service and Support - IBM Austin, TX

=====================================================================
===                        MOUSE PROBLEMS                         ===
=====================================================================

Mouse problems:

1.    Mouse driver does not install correctly

      Symptom:
               No mouse pointer movement(or no mouse pointer).
      Problem:
               Either the install program could not correctly
               determine what type of mouse it was, or could not
               determine that a mouse was indeed present.  If the
               user had mouse support during the graphical install
               portion of the installation process, then he/she
               probably changed the mouse driver/port that OS/2 had
               already chosen.
      Resolution:
               Have the user run the Selective Install program found
               in the OS/2 System/System Setup folder and choose a
               different driver. See below for further suggestions.

2.    Mouse does not work after Dual boot

      Symptom:
               After performing dual boot to DOS, mouse does
               not work.
      Problem:
               Mouse has a "memory" that remembers the mode it
               was in previously.
      Resolution:
               Before performing the dual boot, open a DOS
               window or fullscreen and type MOUSE PC.  You can
               also perform a cold boot after issuing the BOOT
               /DOS command.  The third suggestion is to unplug
               and plug it back in after a few seconds (this
               allows the mouse to be reset).

3.    HP Mouse installation

      Resolution:
               1) Select any mouse during installation
               2) Copy HILMOU.SYS and NOEXBIOS.SYS to C:\OS2\ (these
                  are supplied the manufacturer)
               3) Modify CONFIG.SYS as follows:
                     DEVICE=C:\OS2\NOEXBIOS.SYS
                     DEVICE=C:\OS2\HILMOU.SYS
                     DEVICE=C:\OS2\MOUSE.SYS TYPE=HILMOU$
                     (THIS LAST LINE SHOULD ALREADY BE IN CONFIG.SYS
                     BUT WILL NEED "TYPE=HILMOU$" ADDED )

      HP Cust Service # is 1-800-752-0900  P#289547
      Customer may also go to his dealer for the diskette which
      ships with mouse. Customer may also see COMPUSERV GO HP.

4.    Logitech Mice

      Symptom:
               Logitech mouse does not function under OS/2.
      Problem:
               Mouse does not function when installed with the
               Logitech drivers.
      Resolution:
               Most Logitech mice (and others) emulate Microsoft mice.
               Select PS/2 style pointing device during install.  If
               already installed and mouse is not working correctly,
               perform a Selective Install (run INSTALL from the
               command line) and choose the above mentioned driver.

               Or, hand edit the config.sys to contain the following
               statements:

                  DEVICE=C:\OS2\MOUSE.SYS  (do not specify TYPE=...)

               ********************** IMPORTANT **********************
               * If you have previously done a selective install and *
               * you chose Logitech mouse, your CONFIG.SYS may still *
               * contain a line loading a driver called PCLOGIC.SYS. *
               * This line needs to be removed:                      *
               *                                                     *
               *    DEVICE=C:\OS2\PCLOGIC.SYS <<---- REMOVE LINE     *
               *                                     FROM CONFIG.SYS *
               *******************************************************

               NOTE: The mouse driver is smart enough to figure out if
               the mouse is in a mouse port or one of the COM ports.  Be
               sure that the MOUSE.SYS statement appears before
               DEVICE=C:\OS2\COM.SYS in your config.sys file if the mouse
               is on a COM port.

5.    Alternate pointing devices (two mice!)

      Notes:
               There is an undocumented function in the mouse device
               driver. If you have some alternate pointing device
               such as a tablet or touch screen you may use it in
               addition to the regular mouse pointing device.

               1) Install the device driver for the device with the
                  appropriate DEVICE= statement in CONFIG.SYS (this
                  must be an OS/2 device driver.)

               2) Add the following to the end of the
                  DEVICE=C:\OS2\MOUSE.SYS line:

                     STYPE=xxxxxx$

                  Where the xxxxx$ is the name of the device (from
                  the device driver manual)

               3) Upon reboot, both pointing devices will be active.

6.    For General Mouse driver info:

         Type HELP MOUSE at an OS/2 prompt to read about proper
         CONFIG.SYS parameters for the mouse drivers.

7.    PROBLEM:  Selective Install Not Removing DEVICE= from Config.sys

      ERROR DESCRIPTION:
         When a user selects a wrong mouse (Logitech serial for
         example) then goes back via selective install and changes the
         selection (to PS/2 pointing device for example) the statement
         DEVICE=C:\OS2\PCLOGIC.SYS is left in the CONFIG.SYS and the
         mouse will not work.  The user must edit config.sys & remove
         the offending statement by hand

      LOCAL FIX:
         hand modify config.sys to leave only the MOUSE.SYS and
         POINTDD.SYS statements in CONFIG.SYS

8.    PROBLEM:  Provide some support for LOGITECH mice

      ERROR DESCRIPTION:
         Logitech provides an executable that gives menuing
         capabilities an mouse support to applications that were not
         designed to work with a mouse.  This application
         (LOGIMENU.COM) will not load in DOS session.  Through
         debugging, I was able to establish that the application looks
         for the string "LOGITECH" after a call to get the address of
         the int 33.  Besides that there are some undocumen ted calls
         that the application makes to the mouse driver that are not
         supported in VMOUSE neither in the MOUSE.COM that we provide.
         What is needed is a way to allow the MOUSE.COM provided

      LOCAL FIX:
         Currently the MOUSE.COM that is provided by Logitech can not
         run.  You get an error to the effect that the mouse is not
         responding.  In talking to a mouse developer I learned that
         the mouse port is virtualized and that is why the mouse is
         not working.

9.    Logitech mouse install

      The Logitech Mouse selection should be chosen only if you have a
      Mouse Systems PC Mouse or a Logitech C7 or C9 serial mouse.  (If
      you have another Logitech pointing device, it is Microsoft
      compatible when powered up, so select the appropriate Microsoft
      driver.)  If you are using a Logitech C7 or C9 serial mouse and
      have been using native DOS, be sure to issue the command MOUSE
      PC (or MOUSE 2 PC if your mouse is attached to COM2) before
      booting into or installing OS/2.  Alternatively, turn off the
      system (to reset the mouse) before booting or installing OS/2.

      Logitech Mouse

      When you are using a Logitech mouse (serial or Bus version),
      select the "PS/2 style pointing device" from the install, or
      selective install window.

10.   50 MHz Systems (AT bus) and mouse

      There have been some intermittent problems using 50 mHz systems
      with AT-style bus machines with a mouse.  The mouse can get out
      of synch.  Input will function through the keyboard and the
      mouse, but it is recommended to shutdown the system and restart
      to "resynch" the mouse.

11.   Alternate pointing devices

      There is an undocumented function in the mouse device driver.
      If you have some alternate pointing device such as a tablet or
      touch screen, you may use it in addition to the the regular
      mouse pointing device.

      1) Install the device driver for the device with the
         appropriate DEVICE= statement in CONFIG.SYS (this must be an
         OS/2 device driver)

      2) Add the following to the end of the DEVICE=C:\OS2\MOUSE.SYS
         line:

            STYPE=xxxxxx$

         Where the xxxxx$ is the name of the device (from the device
         driver's manual)

      3) Upon reboot, both pointing devices will be active.

12.   Shutting down a mouseless system

      The shutdown procedure is accessed from the desktop's menu.  To
      access this menu without a mouse, first press and hold the CTRL
      key while pressing the ESC key.  Cursor up to the OS/2 Desktop
      entry and hit ENTER.  Now press the spacebar to deselect all
      currently selected icons.  Press SHIFT and hit the F10 key.
      This will bring up the desktop's menu.  You can now cursor down
      to the Shutdown option and press enter to shut down the system.

INSTALL YOUR POINTING DEVICE

During installation OS/2 will attempt to detect the type of
pointing device you have attached.  If it does you will NOT
receive a mouse selection panel during diskette 2. It is
highly recommended that you do NOT go into the PM mouse
selection panel if you are not prompted to do so.  You may
have problems using your mouse if you select a different
device type then what was detected.  A good example of
this is the Logitech series M mouse.  This mouse is
compatible with the MS serial mouse and will be detected.
The mouse panel will read MS Serial Mouse.  DO NOT choose
from the PM Mouse selection panel the Logitech Serial.  This
choice will add the PCLOGIC.SYS driver which does NOT work
for the Logitech series M mouse.

******* Mouse PM install panel ****************

Logitech PS/2 Mouse - PS/2 (tm) Style Pointing Device

Logitech Serial Mouse (Series M) - PS/2 (tm) Style Pointing
                                   Device

Logitech Serial Mouse (Series C) - Logitech (TM) Serial
                                   Mouse

Logitech Trackman serial mouse - Logitech (TM) Serial Mouse

******* CONFIG.SYS STATEMENTS ******************

For most of the common pointing devices that are out today
the OS/2 2.0 CONFIG.SYS line for mouse support is simply.

DEVICE=C:\OS2\MOUSE.SYS

There are some older Logitech Devices (i.e.  Trackman) that
are not detectable by MOUSE.SYS.  These devices are still
supported.

The CONFIG.SYS lines for undetectable Logitech devices and
PC Mouse System Mice are;

DEVICE=C:\OS2\PCLOGIC.SYS SERIAL=COM1
DEVICE=C:\OS2\MOUSE.SYS TYPE=PCLOGIC$

If the device is plugged into COM 2, 3 or 4 then change the
SERIAL= parameter to COM2, COM3 respectively.

The following pointing devices have been tested and verified
to work.  I have also included the CONFIG.SYS statements for
each entry.

DEVICE CONFIG.SYS Statements ------ ----------------------

=> IBM PS/2 Mouse DEVICE=C:\OS2\MOUSE.SYS

=> MS PS/2 Mouse DEVICE=C:\OS2\MOUSE.SYS

=> MS Serial Mouse DEVICE=C:\OS2\MOUSE.SYS

=> Kensington Expert PS/2 Mouse DEVICE=C:\OS2\MOUSE.SYS
   (NOTE: This is not the same as the Kensington serial
    mouse!!!)

=> Logitech PS/2 Mouse DEVICE=C:\OS2\MOUSE.SYS

=> MS Bus Mouse DEVICE=C:\OS2\MOUSE.SYS (NOTE: This mouse
   requires a special card that only works on an AT style
   bus.)

=> MS Inport Mouse DEVICE=C:\OS2\MOUSE.SYS (NOTE:  This
   mouse requires a special card that only works on an AT
   style bus.)

=> Logitech Serial Mouse (Series M) DEVICE=C:\OS2\MOUSE.SYS
   Logitech Cordless Mouse should use this default as well.

=>  Logitech Serial Mouse (Series C)
    DEVICE=C:\OS2\PCLOGIC.SYS SERIAL=COM2
    DEVICE=C:\OS2\MOUSE.SYS TYPE=PCLOGIC$

=> Logitech Trackman serial mouse
   DEVICE=C:\OS2\PCLOGIC.SYS SERIAL=COM2
   DEVICE=C:\OS2\MOUSE.SYS TYPE=PCLOGIC$
   Remember to REM out MOUSE.COM in Autoexec.bat
   which is located in the root of the OS/2 drive.

=> PC Mouse Systems serial mouse
   DEVICE=C:\OS2\PCLOGIC.SYS SERIAL=COM2
   DEVICE=C:\OS2\MOUSE.SYS TYPE=PCLOGIC$

=> Visi-On serial mouse
   DEVICE=C:\OS2\PCLOGIC.SYS SERIAL=COM2
   DEVICE=C:\OS2\MOUSE.SYS TYPE=PCLOGIC$

=> CH Products Bus Mouse does not work.
   They are working on a device dependent
   driver.

There are hundreds of pointing devices available today.
Most of these are Microsoft compatable.  If they are 100% MS
compatable we support them with the following CONFIG.SYS
statement DEVICE=C:\OS2\MOUSE.SYS.

We have found that some devices are not 100% compatable and
therefore are not supported.

The mouse device driver is layered allowing an OEM to easily
add support for there pointing device.  By writing a small
mouse device dependent driver they can get there device to
work with OS/2 2.0.  Please contact the OEM manufacturer to
find out if they provide a device driver for OS/2 2.0.

An example of an OEM manufacturer that provides OS/2 2.0
support is HP.  HP provides HILMOU.SYS and NOEXBIOS.SYS
device drivers.  Below is the instructions for adding
support for your HIL mouse.

HP Mouse

- Directions for installing an HP mouse

    1- Select any mouse during system installation

    2- Copy HILMOU.SYS and NOEXBIOS.SYS to C:\OS2\ (these
       are supplied by the manufacturer)

    3- Modify CONFIG.SYS with the following in the
       order shown:
       DEVICE=C:\OS2\NOEXBIOS.SYS
       DEVICE=C:\OS2\HILMOU.SYS
       DEVICE=C:\OS2\MOUSE.SYS TYPE=HILMOU$
       (THIS LINE SHOULD ALREADY BE IN CONFIG.SYS BUT
        WILL NEED TYPE=...  ADDED )

(HP Cust Service # is 1-800-752-0900 P#289547 Customer may
also go to his dealer for the diskette which ships with the
mouse.  Customer may also see COMPUSERV !GO HP ).

DUAL BOOT AND LOGITECH
----------------------

Logitech mice remember the last mode they were in and
unfortunately the mode for Real DOS is not compatible with
that required for OS/2.  To reset the mouse mode:

 => execute MOUSE.COM PC from DOS command line
    prior to booting over to DOS or OS/2.

Stephen Poole
OS/2 Service and Support - IBM Austin, TX

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 20:47:55 on 92/07/11 GMT (by HAYNIE at OS2CUST)
Subject: SMS OMTI 8627:
Ref: Append at 13:35:43 on 92/07/09 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8)

I have the RRL/ESDI fix applied. I never get to really read diskette #1.
I am trying to see if anyone has an OMTI running under OS/2 V2.0.

Robert P. Bartoszak - Mobil Oil Corporation

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 13:57:07 on 92/07/13 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST)
Subject: OS/2 Base Install Failure on Disk #9 (SYS0049)

I have encountered a SYS0049 error (device is not functioning) when
performing an OS/2 Base Installation. The error occurs on Disk #9,
every time, using >> different << copies of OS/2 (read Different Disks).

Could possibly be a bad batch of disks, but the problem is uniform. It
seems to be related to CMDREF.INF -- at least, the install stops
halfway through copying that file.

New bug?? Old Problem??

Dan Lundy          Time Customer Service, Inc.                      Tampa, Fl

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 14:34:07 on 92/07/13 GMT (by 84859424 at EHONE)
Subject: Missing File on GG24-3780 Diskette

We are working with the Remote Installation and Maintenance Red Book.
Working with the remote printer installation, we discovered that file
RESPONSE.C, listed on page 191, is missing on the Diskette.

Anyone out there who could send it to me?

Thank you|
Roger Mueller, IBM Zurich, Switzerland

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 15:02:13 on 92/07/13 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8)
Subject: OS/2 Base Install Failure on Disk #9 (SYS0049)
Ref:     Append at 13:57:07 on 92/07/13 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST)

Dan,

  It is very unlikely you have a "bad batch" of diskettes all failing
consistantly at the same place. I have a couple of guesses as to
what may be happening:

1. It may actually be a problem with the hard disk. You don't get it
   until it is xx% full and then it fails - same place during install
   each attempt.

2. A problem with the diskette drive accessing the highest sectors.
   Perhaps diskette #9 is the "fullest" of the first 9.

  In either case, it sounds like it is failing consistently so that
the disk diagnostics should catch it. Have you tried these? Have you
tried the Advanced Diagnostics?

Stephen Poole
OS/2 Service and Support - IBM Austin, TX

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 15:35:31 on 92/07/13 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST)
Subject: OS/2 Base Install Failure on Disk #9 (SYS0049)
Ref: Append at 15:02:13 on 92/07/13 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8)

Stephen,

Wow! Thanks for the fast response!

#1:  I don't believe it is hard disk problem - the same problem occurs
     on installs to >> different << machines with different types of hard
     drives using different shrink wrapped GA OS/2 2.0

#2: ...Diskette drive accessing higher sectors. I confess that idea had
    not occurred to me. I will check it out.

#3: The OS/2 disk diagnostics due kick in - but I am not sure what you
    mean by "Advanced Diagnostics".

Here is the odd part: We have made DISKCOPYs of disk#9 and >>THEY<< work -
but only ONCE - second time we try to use it - Disk error again. Truly
bizarre. Not critical, just highly annoying.

Thoughts?

Dan Lundy          Time Customer Service, Inc.                      Tampa, Fl

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 21:19:23 on 92/07/13 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8)
Subject: OS/2 Base Install Failure on Disk #9 (SYS0049)
Ref:     Append at 15:35:31 on 92/07/13 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST)

HHmmmmmmmmm......

  Multiple different machines, multiple different sets of diskettes,
but all fail on disk #9, all at the same module even, all with
SYS0042. Mighty strange! What is the common thread to all of this?
What is the same amoung all the machines you have tried?

The fact that DISKCOPY also sees a problem means must all be bad
disk #9's or all diskette drives have same hardware problem or
same compatibility problem. What type of drives?

Stephen Poole
OS/2 Service and Support - IBM Austin, TX

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 13:45:13 on 92/07/14 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST)
Subject: OS/2 Base Install Failure on Disk #9 (SYS0049)
Ref: Append at 21:19:23 on 92/07/13 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8)

Stephen,

 A compatriot reminded me that I left out an important point:

Disk #9 does not fail when it is used the FIRST time, it fails only
on a subsequent install. (Second time usage)

Not trying to cloud the issue, but maybe it is relevant.

The drives are 1.44 3.5 but I don't have their manufacturer and
controller yet (have to tear open the machine). They were purchased
as part of the Gateway Computers 486/DX2 33mHz package (found in most
pc mags).

I did try a stress test. I loaded a Verbatim (Datalife HD MF2-HD -
formatted for IBM PS/2's no less)3.5 with an exact copy of disk #9
(38 files rolling up to 1,347,530) and have performed several copies.
I have not duplicated the problem. I strongly suspect a failure within install.

I will post the diskette drive model soon as I find a screwdriver!

Thanks for your help!

Dan Lundy          Time Customer Service, Inc.                      Tampa, Fl

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 19:44:26 on 92/07/14 GMT (by TEC05 at OS2CUST)
Subject: OKI Microline 93 printer drivers.

Are there any drivers for the Okidata Microline 93 printer? If not is there a g
eneric driver that will work.???

Eric Decker [phone]

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 19:44:54 on 92/07/14 GMT (by USBC238 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Install over LAN - Diskprep

When installing OS/2 over the LAN, the utility to FDISK the drive,
DiskPrep.cmd fails.  It will delete partititions but will not read
the label OS2V20 or create a partitition called OS2V20.  Is there a
problem with the REXX code? From what I can see it should work.  I've
tried to use the input file and also put the parameters directly in
the command file, with the same negative results.  If I manually
FDISK the drive, the install works flawlessly.   Has anyone else run
into this problem?

The target PC is a PS/2 Model 70, 160 MB Hard drive, 16 MB RAM, and
an IBM 16/4 TokenRing adapter.

All procedures are from the document OS/2 Version 2.0 Remote
Installation and Maintenance (GG24-3780) Appendixes E and F.

Charles Boyce - US Bank, Portland OR

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 20:48:55 on 92/07/14 GMT (by Z77JAC at BETASVM2)
Subject: What's the real dirt on IRQ's and LPT's (ISA) ?
Ref:     Append at 13:18:56 on 92/07/10 GMT (by SSIA013 at OS2CUST)
My apologies if the following information is already known or if it is
not useful in your situation.
ISA machines, in addition to the old DOS established IRQs, also have
access to IRQs  8 through 15.  Of these, IRQs 9, 10, 11, 12
and 15 are usually available.  If the device you wish to use allows
assignable IRQs, you might wish to use these higher numbered IRQs.
For COMx devices, the specification of IRQs in config.sys seems to
be pretty straight forward:
DEVICE=C:\OS2\COM.SYS (3,03E8,5) (4,02E8,10)
for COM3 and COM4 on IRQs 5 and 10 respectively.
Hope this is helpful to someone.
Jerry Case, TEAMOS2, Bethesda, MD

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 22:16:16 on 92/07/14 GMT (by XXETEL06 at TORVMCOP)
Subject: OS/2 1.3 - DLL TRACKING
DOES OS/2 KEEP TRACK OF THE DLL'S INSTALLED OR USED? I AM TRYING TO
REMOVE A SOFTWARE PACKAGE INSTALLED ON A PS/2 MOD 95. DURING THE
INSTALLATION A DLL WAS COPIED TO THE \OS2\DLL DIRECTORY. IS IT SUFFICIENT
TO REMOVE THE ACTUAL DLL, OR DOES OS/2 BUILD A TABLE WHICH WILL NEED
UPDATING ?

Will Ryks
Network Specialist  - 'ED TEL'

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 02:28:33 on 92/07/15 GMT (by AWAITE at SYDVM1)
Subject: Install over LAN - Diskprep
Ref:     Append at 19:44:54 on 92/07/14 GMT (by USBC238 at OS2CUST)

Charles,
There is a bug with DISKPREP.CMD that somehow got into the final version
of the diskette ... somewhere in the file where there should be a colon
(:) the document symbol :colon. is there instead. This could be
causing your problem. I assure you it does work on a Mod 70 (that's what
I did all the testing on!)
All you have to do is edit DISKPREP.CMD and change ":colon." to ":".
Compare to the listing in the Appendix, which is correct.

You might also try booting with an OS2_SHELL of CMD.EXE (this will give
you a command prompt), then execute the FDISK commands manually
one by one and look at the responses.
Let me know how you go.

Alan Waite * OS/2, LAN Support * Brisbane, Australia.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 03:05:01 on 92/07/15 GMT (by HNDERSON at AUSVM8)
Subject: OS/2 Base Install Failure on Disk #9 (SYS0049)
Ref:     Append at 13:57:07 on 92/07/13 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST)
Dan, I'm coming into this late so you may have already found the problem.
But on early PS/2 model 386's with ESDI adapters, the cause of a SYS0049
or device not ready was a downlevel BIOS chip on the ESDI adapter.
The same could apply to other ESDI adapters.  You may want to check
with YOUR hardware person (CE).
 __   __      ___      __  __   _   _
|  |_|  |    /   \    |  \|  | | |./ / Hank Henderson HNDERSON at AUSVM8
|   _   |   / _~_ \  Sincerely |  . < on Assignment to OS/2 BBS (TEAMOS2)
|__| |__|  /_/   \_\  |__|\__| |_| \_\ LNK1SM7 @ IBMLINK Austin, Texas

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 14:47:43 on 92/07/15 GMT (by IL54396 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Placing SQLLIB on a network drive

We would like to share the SQLLIB directory among requesters on
a Lan Server 2.0 network.  The requesters are running OS/2 2.0.
It appears that we can install the database manager on each
requester and then change the directory references in CONFIG.SYS
to point to a copy of the SQLLIB directory which has been placed
on the network server.  The questions that we have are 1) Can this
work? and 2) What should we set QRWINST to?

Nora Ryan, Pritsker Corp.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 15:23:39 on 92/07/15 GMT (by VENDENA at DALVM41B)
Subject: Placing SQLLIB on a network drive
Ref:     Append at 14:47:43 on 92/07/15 GMT (by IL54396 at OS2CUST)

Do you have the Extended Services Guide to Database Manager?  #S04G-1013

You need to read about Remote Program Download.  This allows a LAN
requester workstation to re Database Manager, Query Manager and Database
Tools installed on a LAN server.

or

Look into Remote Data Services.  Extended Services has many options for
different types of database clients.  RDS does not require any LAN code
be installed on the clients or the server.

Dena Laterza - OS/2 Application Assistance Center

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 15:25:42 on 92/07/15 GMT (by CNADLER at WMAVM1)
Subject: Placing SQLLIB on a network drive
Ref:     Append at 14:47:43 on 92/07/15 GMT (by IL54396 at OS2CUST)

From my reading of the manuals, and a little experience:

If you set up your system that way, only one requester at a time will be
able to access the databases. If this is the way you want to proceed,
then fine, otherwise you need another option.

Another option: set up a Database Server on your LAN Server. You can then
share databases on the server with any number of requesters at the same
time.

The manuals that come with ES talk about this distinction (I forget
exactly where, but I think it was the DB User's Guide or Admin Guide).

Hope this helps,

Cliff Nadler
Federal Sector Services                              Rockville, MD
IBM Federal Systems Company                PROFS: NADLER at WMAVM7

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 16:16:53 on 92/07/15 GMT (by NAAO3IY at OS2CUST)
Subject: OS/2 1.3 - DLL TRACKING
Ref: Append at 22:16:16 on 92/07/14 GMT (by XXETEL06 at TORVMCOP)

If OS/2 will allow you to delete the DLL, then you have no other problem.
It only keeps tracks of DLLs that are actually in use, and if it _is_ in
use, then it won't allow you to delete it anyway.

John Kennedy, Hoechst Celanese

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 16:20:51 on 92/07/15 GMT (by PERSHNG at YKTVMH)
Subject: OS/2 1.3 - DLL TRACKING
Ref:     Append at 22:16:16 on 92/07/14 GMT (by XXETEL06 at TORVMCOP)

Just delete the DLL.

OS/2 keeps track of the DLLs that are in use, and will prevent you from
erasing them.  However, if your application is not up and running, then
presumably its DLL will not be in use, and you will be able to erase it.

(Code loaded from DLLs is not swapped out to the SWAPPER.DAT file;
rather, if storage is tight and OS/2 wants to steal some frames, it will
simply discard the code and subsequently re-load it from the DLL.  This
is why DLLs that are in-use cannot be erased or renamed.)

John A. Pershing Jr.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 05:34:35 on 92/07/16 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP)
Subject: No Shutdown
Ref:     Append at 13:31:28 on 92/07/09 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8)

Much thanks. I knew there had to be an "approved" way rather than
C-A-D!

Elliott M. Avedon
University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1
[phone] x2204

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 14:45:05 on 92/07/16 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST)
Subject: OS/2 Base Install Failure on Disk #9 (SYS0049)
Ref: Append at 03:05:01 on 92/07/15 GMT (by HNDERSON at AUSVM8)

Hank,

First, a MOST impressive personal logo - quite outstanding!

Second, most times I end up being my own hardware person. Sadly, it means
I have to pore through miscellaneous docs sent to me by OUR workstation
group. A downlevel bios chip...hmmm...well worth a check.

Third -- to the watching world at large -- the problem with disk#9 has
now occurred TWO more times (same TYPE and CONFIG of machines) but on
the FIRST install (not the second).

I have not duplicated this problem when reading the diskette -- only
when using the INSTALL program.

My hunt continues.....

Dan Lundy          Time Customer Service, Inc.                      Tampa, Fl

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 21:47:54 on 92/07/16 GMT (by PRCI041 at OS2CUST)
Subject: LAN Requester Remote Install

Is there a way to install LAN Requester from a redirected drive?  I have
the RIPL scenario working and can install the base software and ES from the
server.  I haven't been able to find any documentation that says LS 2.0
requester can be installed the same way.  Has anybody got any ideas on
whether or not this is available?

Mark Polly

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 02:23:04 on 92/07/17 GMT (by BCHI052 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Boot disk for fixes

Is there an OS/2 boot disk available, or how can one be created?

It would be nice to have an OS/2 boot diskette for applying system fixes.
Using the install diskettes is ok, but we had a situation where someone
went past diskette 1 and started re-install.  This little mistake cost   ing.
some valuable time.

Gerald Sasaoka - Hawaii Medical Service Association

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 04:12:18 on 92/07/17 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP)
Subject: Shutdown without a mouse
Ref:     Append at 21:39:19 on 92/07/10 GMT (by MARTZ at GDLVM2)

Thank you and to all the others who provided the answer. Since a
number of people use this lap machine (and forget to attach the
mouse before turning on the machine), I have put the info on a
card, and glued it inside the carrying case! :-)

Elliott M. Avedon
University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1
[phone] x2204

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 12:27:04 on 92/07/17 GMT (by SDAVIS1 at DALVMIC1)
Subject: Boot disk for fixes
Ref:     Append at 02:23:04 on 92/07/17 GMT (by BCHI052 at OS2CUST)

Gerald,

The easiest way to make non-volatile set of OS/2 2.0 boot diskettes
is to make a copy of your Install Diskette and Diskette 1,
then change the A:\CONFIG.SYS file on Diskette 1 to start
the command processor instead of the dialog driven
OS/2 install program. An example of a changed line follows:

SET OS2_SHELL=CMD.EXE

This will start an OS/2 full screen prompt instead of the install
program.

Steve Davis  IBM Southwestern Area Systems Center  Dallas

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 12:30:58 on 92/07/17 GMT (by SDAVIS1 at DALVMIC1)
Subject: LAN Requester Remote Install
Ref:     Append at 21:47:54 on 92/07/16 GMT (by PRCI041 at OS2CUST)

Mark,

Unfortunately, the LAN Requester install program (LANINST) is
currently enabled to only read from diskettes.
You might look into one of IBM's replication products like
LIU/2 or NetView DM/2 which do a good job of replicating the
the LAN Requester subdirectory subtree to target machines.

Steve Davis Southwestern Area Systems Center  Dallas

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 13:07:40 on 92/07/17 GMT (by KENKAHN at PKSMRVM)
Subject: Boot disk for fixes
Ref:     Append at 02:23:04 on 92/07/17 GMT (by BCHI052 at OS2CUST)

I have available a program that creates a single bootable OS/2 V2 disk
that is customized for your specific machine.  It analyzes your CONFIG.SYS
and machine to create a BOOT Disk specific for it.  Right now it's still in
testing internally at IBM, but I plan on submitting for distribution to the
outside world (that's you :-) in the next week or so.  It will probably show
up on places like COMPUSERV and such after that.

Kenneth Kahn    Staff of IBM Fellow/NetWork Computing    Poughkeepsie, NY
Internet: [e-mail]       IBMMAIL: USIB25P9 at IBMMAIL

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 13:12:06 on 92/07/17 GMT (by IL26761 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Boot disk for fixes
Ref: Append at 02:23:04 on 92/07/17 GMT (by BCHI052 at OS2CUST)

There is a procedure floating around on the various OS/2 supporting
BBSes that provides for creating a single disk boot disk.  It is
usually found under the name of BOOTDISK or BOOTD or something along
these lines anyway.

Jack Hiatt   MARC-Life   Atlanta Ga.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 13:32:14 on 92/07/17 GMT (by N$H52HAL at RALVM11)
..... OS2INST CFORUM modified at 17:45:28 on 92/07/20 GMT (by N$H52HAL at RALVM11)
Subject: LAN Requester Remote Install
Ref:     Append at 21:47:54 on 92/07/16 GMT (by PRCI041 at OS2CUST)

I pulled my append due to the package not being available outside of
IBM.  I am leaving IBM in two weeks so I will not be able to make
this procedure available outside of IBM.  If there is someone who
would like to go through the proper channels to release this,
you can contact me and I will give you any info you need.

Hal Humphrey
TL 441-0732
N$H52HAL at RALVM11

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 15:41:04 on 92/07/17 GMT (by N$H52HAL at RALVM11)
..... OS2INST CFORUM modified at 17:46:03 on 92/07/20 GMT (by N$H52HAL at RALVM11)
Subject: LAN Requester Remote Install
Ref:     Append at 13:32:14 on 92/07/17 GMT (by N$H52HAL at RALVM11)

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 16:36:36 on 92/07/18 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8)
Subject: LAN Requester Remote Install
Ref:     Append at 15:41:04 on 92/07/17 GMT (by N$H52HAL at RALVM11)

Hal,

  Please delete your appends so as to avoid user confusion; and,
consider preparing and placing your package in the new program
that allows IBM internals to submit software to be released via
this BBS, CompuServe, SE's and other channels

Stephen Poole
OS/2 Service and Support - IBM Austin, TX

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 13:08:38 on 92/07/20 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Missing Printer Icon - Long Installation

I have a problem which has been reported to IBM but I would be interested
if any one else has this problem.  Installed OS/2 2.0 on a PS/2 80-041
with 10 megs of memory (2 on planer, 8 on memory adapter) IBM SCSI
controller (non-cached), and a 320 SCSI drive. Note Original 40 meg
drive and controller removed.  Also have Math Coprocessor installed.

Problem 1:  The system may take from 6 mins to over 6 hours to create the
desktop after the OS/2 tutor is displayed.

Problem 2:  Selected the IBM 4019 laser printer as system printer.  Icon
will appear after installation but once system is Shut down and restarted
the printer Icon dissappears.  You still can print with the Icon missing.

The system is setup as one HPFS drive.

If you have any of these problems let me know what is in your system and
I will forward this informaton to the OS/2 Support Team.
Thanks

Jerry Sitbon [phone]

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 14:10:06 on 92/07/20 GMT (by KCHENG at AUSVM6)
Subject: IBM1S506 fix for 2 RLL drives

According to the 20FIXES TEXT from OS2CSD Disk, the time stamp of the
IBM1S506.ADD is 5-15-92 1:38pm with size of 13036 Bytes but I have noticed
that the fix is actually dated 4-6-92 with a smaller size after I have un-zip
the 506 package. Is there a mixed up in the IBM1S506 PACKAGE file? I still
get the FDISK error after I applied the fix. My machine has 2 RLL drives.
Do I still need to disable the 2nd drive from the CMOS in order to go around
the problem? Or the 5-15-92 fix should me able to take care the problem?

Many thanks to your reply!

Regards,

Kai Cheng

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 14:21:40 on 92/07/20 GMT (by PERSHNG at YKTVMH)
Subject: Missing Printer Icon - Long Installation
Ref:     Append at 13:08:38 on 92/07/20 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST)
         Append at 21:01:28 on 92/06/12 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST)
           in OS2BASE CFORUM

Yes, the initial install takes "forever".  A colleague seems to think
that it is exponential in the size of your hard disk.  For my installs
(with a 315 Meg C:-drive), it takes about 45 minutes to "configure your
system", and on the order of 2 hours to build the desktop after the
tutorial has appeared.

Um... Concerning the missing printer icon, aren't you the Jerry Sitbon
that talked about this problem a month ago over in the OS2BASE forum,
along with a "solution" involving putting the SWAPPER file into its own
dedicated FAT partition (see 2nd reference)?  I've got a similar config
to yours (8580-071 with 10 Megs, and a pair of 315-Meg ESDI disks in
place of the original 70-meg drive), and have had similar experiences.
However, on my first "successful" install, I was missing the "shutdown"
and "lockup" selections from my desktop menu; after installing again, I
was missing the printer icon.  I haven't had a chance to try your
suggested "solution" (actually, I haven't had the time:  I figure that a
re-install of everything -- OS/2, ES, LS, TCP/IP, READ/2 -- will take me
a day and a half), but a hard-copy of your append is sitting here on my
(real) desktop.

There are presumably fixes to this SWAPPER problem; I just can't figure
out how to apply the fixes before it has trashed my printer icon (or
shotdown/lockup, or something else).  However, I was wondering if the
following would help:  After the initial couple of floppies when it tells
you to re-boot (off the hard disk), instead boot-up standalont OS/2
(e.g., from the installation floppies) and use a small floppy-based
editor to modify the primordial CONFIG.SYS on the hard drive so that the
SWAPPER file is pre-allocated at some large value such as 16 Megs, then
boot the hard disk and continue the install.  Or, maybe at this point in
the install there is enough stuff on the hard disk to be able to apply
the fixes -- I don't know (and don't have the day and a half to find out).

John A. Pershing Jr.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 18:24:48 on 92/07/20 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Missing Printer Icon - Long Installation
Ref: Append at 14:21:40 on 92/07/20 GMT (by PERSHNG at YKTVMH)

Hi John;
It's nice to be remembered.  Yes I am the person who mention the problem of
the missing printer Icon about a month ago.  The reason I'm requesting it
again is I have changed some of my hardware and still have the problem.
I know of a way to work around it but I expected OS/2 to work correctly at
some point.  Besides the missing printer I have had problems with the
system stalling, poor performance closing folders, and long erratic
installion.

IBM OS/2 support finally agreed that there are problems with OS/2 and
some memory adapters.  This is not to say that the adapter are defective or
of a lower quaility.  Just that OS/2 uses them in a different way.  IBM
sent a team of specialist to see my system.  I was able to demonstrate the
stalling problem.  They then install an IBM 2-14 memory board in my system
and low and behold no stalling.

IBM has sent me a board (2-14 with 8 megs) while they study my original board.
All my problems started with a missing printer ICON.  So on my day off
Saturday, I removed all my software and low leveled my 320 meg SCSI drive.
Remember now that I have an IBM offical memory card installed now.

The first part of the installation went smoothly.  I migrated the MS-Window
clock and installed a 4019 laser printer.  The system proceeded to set its
self up.  Finally the system rebooted and the blank desktop appeared.
The tutorial was displayed.  So I read it again (25th time).  Then I
waited, and waited, and waited, and waited.  After 2 hours I gave in
and pressed the CTRL - ALT - DEL sequence.  This time the desktop
came up and displayed the objects.  But wouldn't you know it the printer
icon was missing.

I'll bet you that if I load OS/2 two or three time I will get one to
come up in six min. after the tutorial shows up.  I still don't
know if the printer ICON will stay on.

OS/2 may be the best thing to ever come out since Ice Cream but it has
cost me much wasted time.  I expected problems but not this much.

Well that enough of my sad song.
Thanks for your speedy reply.

Jerry Sitbon [phone]

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 21:52:06 on 92/07/20 GMT (by N$H52HAL at RALVM11)
Subject: Missing Printer Icon - Long Installation
Ref:     Append at 18:24:48 on 92/07/20 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST)

If you feel like playing with your system one more time...

As a LAN admin I am frequently asked to recover lost desktops, there
are several "levels" of recovery that I try.  The secret is to continue
recovering until you start getting worse results instead of better.

1.  Close all you running apps and SHUTDOWN.

2.  Save your desktop with the command (for a FAT system)
      RENAME C:\OS!2_2.0_D OS!2_2.BAK

3.  Boot off DISK 0 and DISK 1 to get an OS/2 prompt.

4.  Make copies of your present INI files.
    copy c:\os2\os2.ini c:\os2\os2.bak
    copy c:\os2\os2sys.ini c:\os2\os2sys.bak

5.  Make new INI files that will rebuild your desktop
    Type in the following commands:
       c:\os2\makeini c:\os2\os2.ini c:\os2\ini.rc
       c:\os2\makeini c:\os2\os2sys.ini c:\os2\inisys.rc

6.  Reboot.  OS/2 will try to rebuild your desktop.
    (Since you have memorized the tutorial you can close it to make
    the re-build go faster.)

7.  If you have not customized OS/2 too much, the desktop it builds
    for you could be exactly what you wanted.  If you have customized
    a lot you can try the next steps:
  a) Restore your old desktop by typing (VERY quickly!)
       rename c:\os!2_2.0_d desktop.1
       rename c:\os!2_2.bak os!2_2.0_d
  b) SHUTDOWN to make the changes take place.
  c) When you come up you probably won't have your printer icon.
     To get it back, "xcopy" the printer directory from DESKTOP.1
     to C:\OS!2_2.0_D.  The printer directory will have a unique
     name based on the printer you installed.  You should be able
     to figure out which one it is.

 *  If funny things happen after re-boot, rename desktop.1 back to
    os!2_2.0_d and re-customize your desktop.

 *  If "Not very funny" things happen and you wish you had never tried
    this, 1) SHUTDOWN, 2) boot off of DISK0 and DISK1 to get a command
    prompt, 3) copy c:\os2\os2*.bak c:\os2\*.ini, 4) do step 7a above,
    and 5) re-boot.

    The worst that should happen would be that you wasted your time.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 11:53:26 on 92/07/21 GMT (by XXCDSX26 at TORVMCOP)
Subject: Missing Printer Icon - Long Installation
Ref:     Append at 13:08:38 on 92/07/20 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST)

Jerry:

How old is your 8580-041?  If it is very old it might have a 386B1
chip in.  That, plus your math co-processor will cause you problems.
There is an Engineering Change Announcement on 8580's with the B1
chip - ECA011.  This will replace FOR FREE your whole planar board.

To determine whether you have a 386B1 (1) get 386STEP from ESDTools,
(2) get 386STEP from Compuserve, (3) if you have experience any
traps that freeze the machine one of the lines displayed will say
38600xx, where xx is the processor's stepping level.

I don't know if this is related to your problem, however it is
an exposure that should be eliminated.

FYI, the major problem fixed with ECA011 is that the use of the 386B1
paging registers with a 387 present will jam the processor.  OS/2 V2
is supposed to detect this and not use the math processor.

Michael Harper - Cdn Depository for Securities, Ltd

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 12:16:31 on 92/07/21 GMT (by THRUMD at SYDVM1)
Subject: Missing Printer Icon - Long Installation
Ref:     Append at 13:08:38 on 92/07/20 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST)

This may not be much comfort, but my home machine is an 80-041
with non-cached SCSI, 160Mb drive, and original ST506 controller
and drive removed, and my one install took only a few minutes
(number and time both a record???).  Extra memory is on an original
2-6Mb board.  Motherboard is original (1987 vintage).  So only major
differences seem to be 2-8Mb card, and coprocessor.  I believe
coprocessor should be disabled for old systems (like 80-041)
with B1 step-level 80386, but certainly might be worth a try to
remove...

Dave

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 13:49:38 on 92/07/21 GMT (by PERSHNG at YKTVMH)
Subject: Missing Printer Icon - Long Installation
Ref:     Append at 18:24:48 on 92/07/20 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST)

Part of the reason that the closing of folders is slow is that the stupid
system is meticulously saving the exact position of every single icon in
the folder, so that they can be exactly restored when the folder is
opened the next time (these saved positions go into extended attributes).
If you Open/Settings, select Sort, and check off "Always Maintain Sort
Order", then the folders will close much faster, since the "AMSO" option
implies an "arrange" when the folder is opened, so it is unnecessary to
save anything when it is closed.

There is a known bug in having the SWAPPER file on an HPFS drive.  If
this is the case with your system, get the HPFS fix and apply it.  Also,
diddling the SWAPPATH= statement in your CONFIG.SYS so that the SWAPPER
file is pre-allocated to be "big enough" helps overall performance
somewhat (I pre-allocate at 16 Megs).

I've installed three times, and it was excruciatingly slow each time.  If
you find a way to speed this up, please let me know.  (Can this possibly
be related to the "Stalling or Lockup when Lunching an Object" problem?
I've got to get my ESDI controller and mother board upgraded...)

John A. Pershing Jr.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 14:22:09 on 92/07/21 GMT (by DFREELAN at ENDVM5)
Subject: Blanks Screen after OS2 logo before tutorial
Ref:

We are experiencing a problem after installing OS2 2.0 where a blank
screen is coming up after the logo but before the tutorial would appear.
The machine then hangs.  We are running on a 8580-311 with a 8514
display with memory installed.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 16:59:49 on 92/07/21 GMT (by IL61500 at OS2CUST)
Subject: What's the real dirt on IRQ's and LPT's (ISA) ?
Ref: Append at 13:18:56 on 92/07/10 GMT (by SSIA013 at OS2CUST)

INTERRUPT CONFLICTS ON AN ISA MACHINE ARE MUCH LESS OF A NIGHTMARE
IF YOU HAVE THE RIGHT SOFTWARE UTILITIES. SYSTEM SLEUTH FROM DARIANNA
TECH IS A GOOD ONE OR MANIFEST FROM QUARTERDECK.
THERE ARE ALSO QUITE A FEW SHAREWARE UTILITIES (INFOPLUS) THAT WILL
REPORT THIS TO YOU.

LONG LIVE MICROCHANNEL AND THE HECK WITH JUMPERS!!

THANKS,
LOU

LOU BREIT, DEAN WITTER REYNOLDS

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 17:55:43 on 92/07/21 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Blanks Screen after OS2 logo before tutorial
Ref: Append at 14:22:09 on 92/07/21 GMT (by DFREELAN at ENDVM5)

I will assume that the blank screen appears after the final disk has
been installed and you have loaded a printer.  The system would then
reboot.  Try this, when the system hangs, enter a CTRL-ALT-DEL.  In
some cases this will clear the problem and the tutorial will show.
Are you formatted under HPFS or FAT, can you give a little more information
on what is inside your system.

From an OS/2 user who has had his share of problems.

Jerry Sitbon [phone]

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 18:16:26 on 92/07/21 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Missing Printer Icon - Long Installation
Ref: Append at 13:49:38 on 92/07/21 GMT (by PERSHNG at YKTVMH)

Hi John;

I spoke to an OS/2 programmer today about the long install problem and
about the slow speed in closing a folders.
tried the corrective fixes to OS/2.
The OS/2 rep. said that there should be no difference in closing speed
of a folder in FAT vs HPFS.  I have found that under FAT the folders close
very fast (less than a second) using my 16 mhz machine.  Under HPFS it takes
from 2 to 6 seconds after clicking the mouse till the folder closes.
The rep. also says it should not take longer to load HPFS as oppose to FAT.
They are going to look into the problem.

If you copy the first three OS/2 installion disks, it may be possible to
apply some of the fixes to these disks directly.  This should correct
OS/2 when it is first installed.  I will be trying this today.

Have you ever noticed that after you installed OS/2 the desktop is displayed
with the OS/2 SYSTEM folder opened. If you close the folder then shut down, the
next time the system starts it will still be opened.  This only happens the
first time.  I told this to the IBM rep and he was quite surprised.

By the way thank you for your suggestion on keeping the folder sorted.
It does make it a bit faster.  Never the less I want OS/2 in HPFS to
work as fast as FAT.

bye....

Jerry Sitbon [phone]

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 18:24:09 on 92/07/21 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Missing Printer Icon - Long Installation
Ref: Append at 11:53:26 on 92/07/21 GMT (by XXCDSX26 at TORVMCOP)

Thank you very much for this information.  I called IBM Service and was
told that if the system is missing a FRU label next to the adapter connectors
the unit would need the ECA change applied to it.

I don't know if this caused the system to take a long time to install but
if it is a problem it can't hurt to remove it.

Again thank you.

Jerry Sitbon [phone]

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 18:25:03 on 92/07/21 GMT (by ZSAM1 at OS2CUST)
..... OS2INST CFORUM modified at 16:51:29 on 92/07/27 GMT (by ZSAM1 at OS2CUST)
Subject: PMTerm setup for internal modem
This APPEND was deleted at 12:51:28 on 07/27/92 EST.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 20:21:22 on 92/07/21 GMT (by ADUNSMUI at TOROLAB6)
Subject: Missing Printer Icon - Long Installation
Ref:     Append at 18:16:26 on 92/07/21 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST)

  The HPFS Driver alone takes 512K of memory - notes in the README file
state that it should not be used in memory constrained systems (< 6M).
Sounds like you are swapping now, and should add some more memory to
correct this.... _then_ take a look at what HPFS will do.

Al Dunsmuir -  Appended at 4:19:09 PM EDT on 92/07/21

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 12:53:50 on 92/07/22 GMT (by PERSHNG at YKTVMH)
Subject: Missing Printer Icon - Long Installation
Ref:     Append at 18:16:26 on 92/07/21 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST)

No, I haven't noticed any anomalies with the 'OS/2 System' folder.

One beef that I have with the HPFS is that the data cache is of a fixed
size (specified in CONFIG.SYS).  They *should* have tied the data cache
in with the paging manager, so that they could trade off storage frames
as the paging demand increased and decreased.  (This is the way that the
Mini-Disk Cache works on the VM system -- it's self-tuning.)

John A. Pershing Jr.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 16:02:39 on 92/07/22 GMT (by ZSAM1 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Installing OS/2 2.0 on Compaq

Will os/2 2.0 install on compaq deskpro i/33 with no problems or special
install procedures? Is SVGA supported in winos2 (windows) with the video
board provided in this machine?

S. Michalik, Kerr-McGee Corp.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 18:14:38 on 92/07/22 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Missing Printer Icon - Long Installation
Ref: Append at 20:21:22 on 92/07/21 GMT (by ADUNSMUI at TOROLAB6)

I wish the problem could be solved with just memory.
The system has 10 megs of memory which should be more than enough
to operate in HPFS mode at a desent speed.  The system also has an
SCSI controller with a 320 meg drive.  Please note that under FAT
the system works at an acceptable speed.  I'm not saying that application
programs are working slow just closing folders.  The poor performance also
shows up when the system executes alot of hard disk activity.

Jerry Sitbon [phone]

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 23:25:04 on 92/07/22 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Missing Printer Icon - Long Installation
Ref: Append at 18:14:38 on 92/07/22 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST)

Jerry, it was good to talk with you and swap OS/2 frustrations.  If only IBM
spent the amount of energy trying to get to the bottom of this as they do in
denying it's validity.  I'm more disturbed by the fact that an APAR has not
assigned to this than I am that it is not all fixed.
I suspect that it has to do with
I'm not at all confident about these "selective fixes" either, I suspect that
they have been tested only minimally, and are likely to cause further problems.
The kernel patch certainly seems to be causing numerous out of memory messages,
both in Windows sessions, and now from WPS itself.  This is despite the fact
that like you I have 10 MB of memory, and the only thing running is LAN Server
2.0.  Secondly, the HPFS.IFS replacement only seemed to have eliminated the
error AFTER performing a checkdisk on the disk (booted from install disks), and
after I had replaced the old HPFS.IFS and restarted the system.  Use with
extreme caution, these fixes may cause as many new probelms as are solved.

The observations that I have lead me to believe that the error happens during
writing of the os2sys.ini file, which I think contains hardware settings for
the system.  The slowdown does not appear to begin until the last reboot before
the printer installation.

For the record, the out of memory message I from the WPS is "PMV2001" - please
close applications to free up memory.  Incidently, this message flashes about
a hundred times (at least NOT just once or twice), and prevents anything from
starting (BEEPS) - cannot open the Window list to close things!  The only way
to continue seems to be to push the "OK" button about one hundred times also.
SO far the message has gone away and allowed me to shut down what few things
that I have open.

We really need the support to get these bugs corrected, as it is already rather
difficult to swim against the Microsoft Windows current and this makes it even
more difficult.

I'll try to post all of the PMR's that I can find that haven't been addressed
in the past three months - and maybe something will be done.

Chris Knoell (MGH)

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 15:48:36 on 92/07/23 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Verified: Long Install & Poor Performance

Date 07/23/92 Time 11:00AM Eastern Time.
Just received a call from the IBM OS/2 support.  A problem has been found with
OS/2 2.0 using large partitions formatted in HPFS.  The APR number is PJ04960.

The problem causes the system to take over two hours to install the base
system.  The larger the hard disk the worst the problem becomes.  Closing
folders will take from two to seven seconds.  Overall disk performance is
poor.

IBM has recommended that for the time being to place the OS/2 BASE and
Extended Service in a seperate partition not greater than 100 megs.
If you have this problem in might help to report it to IBM so that a fix
will be created as soon as possible.  This problem does not show up in
large partitions formatted in FAT.

I wish to thank Chris, our conversation has revitalized the quest to
get IBM to make OS/2 work right.  (Let's call the GA version GA Beta version 1)

I recommend that all OS/2 users who receive a PMR number to problems found
in OS/2 post them on the OS/2 - BBS.  That way other users with the same

problem can reference it when they call in.  There is strenght in numbers.

I will keep the BBS posted with any other items I learn.

Long Live the OS/2 users.

Thanks.........

Jerry Sitbon [phone]

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 16:15:52 on 92/07/23 GMT (by AABA0EM at OS2CUST)
Subject: Missing Printer Icon - Long Installation
Ref: Append at 23:25:04 on 92/07/22 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST)

Chris,

I too am very concerned about the quality of the "fixes" which are being
posted and the public posture that IBM has taken regarding the problems with
OS/2 2.0. The IBM response to the May Infoworld story about problems with
seamless Windows is particularly troublesome.

My sources told me that a British Infoworld reporter attended an OS/2 users
meeting held in Germany and learned of these problems when users talked about
them. To have IBM say that they didn't know anything about these problems
doesn't sit very well since representatives from IBM were in attendance.

It is well past time for IBM to step up to the bar and deliver. That can't
happen if IBM believes that "all is well." We who are trying to use OS/2 2.0
know that that simply isn't true. If IBM won't listen to us and fix the
problems forthwith the Market Place will shout at IBM by ignoring OS/2.

In it's present state maybe we should call it seemless Windows.

Bob, I want OS/2 to win, Holmes Southern California Gas

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 22:16:15 on 92/07/23 GMT (by SOYRING at AUSVM1)
Subject: Missing Printer Icon - Long Installation
Ref:     Append at 16:15:52 on 92/07/23 GMT (by AABA0EM at OS2CUST)

Bob, I spoke at a OS/2 Users Group meeting in Munich, Germany. After
my talk I I took dozens of questions from the audience. Two questions
came from people who asked me about the status of a specific APAR
number. I resonded that I did not know the status of the specific, but
that I would follow-up if the individual would give me their name
(and the number of the APAR if they had it). One of them did give me
the description of a OS/2 ES SQL bug. I phoned the bug description
back to the actual programmer that day, and the bug was addressed.

Bob, I hope you don't expect me to recall the status of individual
bugs! I did portray that we were receiving more service and support
calls at that time than we planned and we were in the process of
adding staff.

John A. Soyring

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 13:14:16 on 92/07/24 GMT (by SSIA013 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Svga Operation, PM update

I have a customer that has a Trident SVGA adapter and has just "converted"
over to OS/2.  The problem is that PM doesn't take advantage of SVGA on the
system.  The command SVGA ON has been issued and the mode co132 in a DOS/OS
full screen can be executed (but when returning to PM the desktop is
corrupted).

The major problem is that the user requires the MS Windows Apps to run in
SVGA mode (for the resolution); and we can't seem to get the system to do
this.

Has anyone out there used SVGA with the windows FS ?  How did you need to set
up the system to make this work?

Also, the documentation states that SVGA drivers for PM will be available from
IBM, does anybody know the state of these drivers and when they may be avail-
able?

Paul Kurr -- Stockholder Systems, Norcross GA

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 13:27:07 on 92/07/24 GMT (by NAGZ5O4 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Trap 0002 during install

I have a PS/55sx w/4 MEG RAM and a 60 meg HD.  I base formatted the drive using
my reference disk.  Install fdisk'ed my system successfully.  After the system
restarted, it formatted my drive and began copying files to my harddisk.  While
in disk #2, I get to copy approximately 50% of the files and the install
returns a Trap 0002 error.  The first two times, I got more than full screen
error descriptions for the trap (which I did not copy), and the third time
I got a condensed error message.  Each time, the system reported an internal
processing error @ ##160:fff6453f - 000d:a53f  60000,9084  (the first 2 times)

The third time (in the condensed error), it reported a similar internal
processing error @ ##160:fff64ae0 - 000d:aae0  60002,9084

Both occurred at the same point in the installation.

Reference disk advanced diags show no problems with ram or harddisk.
Chkdsk shows no visible errors on the install disks.  I have only been given
one set of diskettes from the upgrade center, so I hope that's not it!  Short
of swapping the SIMMs, I'm stuck.  Can you help?

Mark Lombard

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 14:11:25 on 92/07/24 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1)
Subject: Trap 0002 during install
Ref:     Append at 13:27:07 on 92/07/24 GMT (by NAGZ5O4 at OS2CUST)

Mark, both the TRAP 0002's and the address, 60002,9084, mean the same
thing, memory or DMA errors. Fortunately, you are on a PS/2, and on this
H/W we save the failing information into CVRAM. Your CE should have a
utility disk to identify the problem. Call him and tell him the fail and
ask if he has the utility. If not tell him to get the following package
from OS2PROD.

 Selection: OS2PROD, OS2CSD, OS2PROD2                      210 items  23
Package  Vers  Rel Date Description                         TOOLCAT Versi
SADA     2.1   92/05/11 IBM PS/2 Service Aid Diskette Version 2.1  3.5" 1

If you want, you can juggle memory using a spare SIMM until you find the
failing one, as it usually is a bad or speed mismatched SIMM that is the
problem.

Irv Spalten  BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 14:15:13 on 92/07/24 GMT (by Z77JAC at BETASVM2)
Subject: Trap 0002 during install
Ref:     Append at 13:27:07 on 92/07/24 GMT (by NAGZ5O4 at OS2CUST)
Trap 0002s are virtually always due to memory failures.  OS2 2.0
stresses memory far more than other systems/applications.  Most
people are able to solve the problems even when diagnostics don't
point to a failing chip by iteratively replacing the chips and trying
again.
Also, you indicate that you have only 4MB of RAM in the system.  While
this IS the minimum supported amount, experience shows that many problems
crop up at this level.  Things are more likely to go smoothly with
6MB or, even better, at 8MB.  I know that this may be a problem with
a 55sx, but those are the facts.  4MB is supported but it doesn't
perform very well which is the basic reason why IBM is now shipping
the OS2 preloaded systems with 8MB.
Depending upon how much other stuff you have, the 60MB HD may also
be a problem.  With only 4MB, swapping will be at a maximum and there
may be insufficient DASD to properly support this.
Jerry Case, TEAMOS2, Bethesda, MD

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 14:44:48 on 92/07/24 GMT (by AABA0EM at OS2CUST)
Subject: Missing Printer Icon - Long Installation
Ref: Append at 22:16:15 on 92/07/23 GMT (by SOYRING at AUSVM1)

John,

It is my understanding that Infoworld asked IBM US about the problems and
got the reply, "We aren't aware of those problems."

My real concern is that the Market Place is getting the impression that IBM
is not being fortright about the problems with OS/2 2.0. Without credibility
it will be almost impossible for IBM to deliver a believeable message on
OS/2 2.0.

Bob, I wnat Mikey to like it , Holmes Southern California Gas

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 14:58:45 on 92/07/24 GMT (by IL04688 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Country.sys is incorrect on OS/2 1.3 upgd

  have had a problem installing OS/2 2.0 base on a PS/2 8570-121 running OS/2 1
.3.  On Diskette #1 (next disk after the install diskette) I get the message "A
:>Country.sys is incorrect.  ...  System is stopped"  at which point you cannot
 do a soft-boot (Ctrl-alt-delete), but must power off to reset.  I tried three
separate sets of disks and looked here and on the Atlanta BBS and then contacte
d our local branch office.  Finally, I called the problem in to software defect
s, and swamped as they are, they told me the solution which I would like to sha
re:

" Country.sys is incorrect " occurs for a number of reasons.  Often you must ta
ke out any extra cards in the PC, install, and then replace the cards.

In my case the cause is having OS/2 1.3 installed which is not at CSD level 505
0.  I can either apply the 5050 Corrective Service Diskettes, or better, boot f
rom a DOS floppy and format the hardfile and then install OS/2 2.0 as I normall
y would (we use LIU/2 and a model image on our IBM Lan Server Network.)

Hope this helps.

Leo Tornow

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 15:11:51 on 92/07/24 GMT (by JFRITTER at ATLVM3)
Subject: Plotters

Jim Fritter

Since installing os2 2.0 I have lots of problems with my plotter.
It is on COM1.  My biggest problem is with Harvard Graphics.  The
plot begins then just stops printing.  Can you advise.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 16:50:15 on 92/07/24 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Missing Printer Icon - Long Installation
Ref: Append at 22:16:15 on 92/07/23 GMT (by SOYRING at AUSVM1)

I would like to return to the original subject of this thread and have your
comments on what Jerry and I have been through.  There is a very serious bug
when using HPFS on a boot partition greater than 100 MB - the system does not
function properly or install correctly.  I understand that it is not adapter
dependent or disk type dependent.  Since HPFS is recommended for partitions
> 130 MB I'm wondering why this APAR was just issued yesterday - after 2-3
months and tens of hours of lost productivity for both of us.  My experience
has been that no one at IBM (support) is using HPFS or the WPS.  It would make
it easier if we did not have to explain these problems to people that are not
even using the basic features of OS/2 2.0.

Finally, it would be reassuring at this point for us to have an official
declaration of how repairs will be made to this product.  From waht I can tell
there will be no CSD's - only selective fixes until the next "version" sometime
this fall.  We should at least know what to expect so that we can all decide if
we will "stick it out" until OS/2 is really functional.  All of us want this
product to succeed, as demonstrated by our determination to get things fixed.

Chris Knoell (MGH)

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 23:10:15 on 92/07/24 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Svga Operation, PM update
Ref: Append at 13:14:16 on 92/07/24 GMT (by SSIA013 at OS2CUST)

Paul,
Are you ever in luck that you have a Trident SVGA.  There are a full set of OS/
2 2.0 drivers for the Trident card, including virtual desktop and seemless
windows at higher than VGA resolution.  They can be obtained at the FTP site
ftp-os2.nmsu.edu or on the Trident BBS (I don't know the number of their BBS, m
aybe someone else can jump in with the number).  There are also several readme'
s on that ftp site about using the Trident card, how to do the SVGA command
properly and driver installation.  We have one machine with a Trident card
that I will soon be switching from 1.3 to 2.0 - but I have not downloaded the d
rivers as of yet.

Mike Long - CARD Iowa State University - PC/LAN Analyst

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 13:20:42 on 92/07/27 GMT (by SSIA013 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Svga Operation, PM update
Ref: Append at 23:10:15 on 92/07/24 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST)

Please explain the "FTP" site....

Paul Kurr -- Stockholder Systems, Norcross GA

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 14:02:41 on 92/07/27 GMT (by AAEE1AN at OS2CUST)
Subject: Svga Operation, PM update
Ref: Append at 13:20:42 on 92/07/27 GMT (by SSIA013 at OS2CUST)

"FTP site" explained:

There is an Internet host machine somewhere which has OS/2 fixes available for
downloading by you. If you have access to the Internet, then you can use the
TCP/IP "FTP" command and its subcommands to receive the fixes on your Internet
host.

Earlier postings on this BB (and maybe other BB's in this BBS) give the name
of the host.

If you don't have access to the Internet, then this info is of purely academic
interest to you, at most.

Mike Andrews, Okla. Dept. of Transportation [phone]

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 16:54:58 on 92/07/27 GMT (by ZSAM1 at OS2CUST)
Subject: PMTERM SETUP FOR XMODEM COMMUNICATION

I HAVE SETUP PMTERM TO COMMUNICATE WITH COMPUSERVE ON COM4. WHEN I TRY TO
PERFORM A DOWNLOAD FROM COMPUSERVE USING XMODEM, THE SESSION DISPLAYS THE
DIALOG FILE TRANSFER BOX AND INCREMENTS THE ERROR STATUS LINE.  A TIMEOUT
FINALLY OCCURS AND THE TRANSFER IS CANCELLED. IS THERE A SPECIAL SETUP FOR
THE SESSION TO GET THIS TO WORK?

S. Michalik, Kerr-McGee Corp.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 17:35:53 on 92/07/27 GMT (by AMG at CARVM3) --
Subject: Remote install/config of OS/2 via the LAN

I seem to remember reading somewhere how to make the system look for data
files for installation (and other activities requiring diskettes i.e.
REINST) on LAN attached drives rather than on drive A.  Can anyone remind
me of how to do this?  I am hoping to put diskette images on the LAN
which can be used for OS/2, ES, LS, etc... installation and
configuration.  All ideas welcomed.  Thanx.

Adam Greene (amg @ carvm3)

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 18:21:32 on 92/07/27 GMT (by GWYDIR at YKTVMH)
Subject: OS/2 V2 Installation problems

I am new to OS/2 V2 and seem to having problems installing OS/2 V2.

Machine:   IBM PS/2 Model 70-E61 (16Mhz)
Memory:    14Meg (6Meg on planar 8Meg on enhanced memory card)
MCA Cards: XGA Adapter (1M video memory)
           MCV SoundBlaster
           2-14M Enhanced Memory Card
Display:   IBM 8515
Disk:      120Meg, both DOS and OS/2 are on the same FAT partition (C:)

I have tried to install the OS/2 GA disks on the machine described above.
The XGA is setup to be the primary display (no secondary display).
However, something must go astray during the installation because
I cannot execute *ANY* DOS program in the DOS window.  I get a
"SYS0005: Access denied" when trying to execute DOS .EXE
files that work fine under regular DOS 5.00.1 when DOS is booted.
I ran OS/2 CHKDSK and found that a number of DOS executable files
had cross-linked extended attributes (?).  This is immediately
after installing OS/2 GA.  Running CHKDSK C: /F from install diskette
#2 fixes some of the cross-linked files but my desktop seems "broken".

So:

I reinstall OS/2 from scratch and also install the OS/2 kernel fix
(OS2KRNL) and now I can run my DOS programs in OS/2 DOS windows.
However, CHKDSK C: still reports cross-linked file attributes for
executable files in my C:/DOS, C:/OS2, c:/OS2/MDOS, etc. directories,
about 50-60 in all.
I reboot OS/2 from diskette and run CHKDSK C: /F and some of the
cross-linked file problems get fixed, but most are not fixed, because
another CHKDSK c: /F still reports the same cross-link problems but
does not fix anything.  I copy the files reported as cross-linked
to a diskette, delete the original files from C:, and copy the
file back to C: as OS/2 HELP suggests.  However, my desktop is
broken (ie: Folders missing, icons missing, icon names wrong, etc)

Question(s): How can I get rid of these cross-linked files when
             installing OS/2 V2?  Should I use the OS2KRNL fix?
             Should I not worry about cross linked files?
             What do I have to do to get OS/2 installed?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Craig Gwydir
(GWYDIR at YKTVMH)

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 02:31:21 on 92/07/28 GMT (by ALLT001 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Moving to a bigger drive

The time has come to get a bigger drive. I have an ESDI drive currently. I
will be installing a SCSI drive. Both will operate together for as long as
is needed to move stuff from the old drive.

I want to install boot manager and have the C: drive for DOS (I still need
it to run my tape and my 360K B: drive) and run OS/2 from the D: drive
(which will probablby be E: during the transition period).

I would like to reinstall OS/2 from scratch on the new drive.

How do I avoid having to completely rebuild my desktop?

Bruce M. Ferry, ALLTEL Corporation

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 04:37:49 on 92/07/28 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP)
Subject: Plotters
Ref:     Append at 15:11:51 on 92/07/24 GMT (by JFRITTER at ATLVM3)

I've installed an HP 7475 under OS2, and it works without a problem.
I use it with AutoCad. In fact, I also have an IBM 4019E printer
attached, and switch back and forth. AutoCad lets me tell it which
device to use for a plot - the HP or the PostScript printer. At
times I send a plot to the plotter cause I want the colour, and
then send a plot to the printer cause I need a copy to FAX to
someone. OS2 seems to know what it's doing since it keeps feeding
the plotter data in one session, while feeding data to the printer
simultaneously in the second session.

What type of plotter do you have? Do you alter the OS@ settings for
each job? For example, before sending a job to the plotter, I
open the plotter icon settings, go to the driver page, click on
job settings, and select the ones I want for the current job.
I make use the plotter is physically set up for the same settings,
i.e.- paper size, pen colours, etc. Finally, I select the same
settings in ACAD before I release the plot. Hopes this helps.
Elliott M. Avedon
University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1
[phone] x2204

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 14:10:12 on 92/07/28 GMT (by AWAITE at SYDVM1)
Subject: Remote install/config of OS/2 via the LAN
Ref:     Append at 17:35:53 on 92/07/27 GMT (by AMG at CARVM3)

:shameless plug.
You should order GG24-3780 OS/2 V2,0 Remote Installation and Maintenance
Also check out LIU/2 (LAN Installation Utility/2), a PRPQ that allows
you to automate LAN install of OS/2 and ES.
The README file on DIskette 1 of ES also has some info on installing
Extended Services from a server rather than diskette.

Alan Waite * OS/2, LAN Support * Brisbane, Australia.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 23:33:40 on 92/07/28 GMT (by ESTEELE at SJEVM5)
Subject: Svga Operation, PM update
Ref:     Append at 13:14:16 on 92/07/24 GMT (by SSIA013 at OS2CUST)

 I got my system to run full screen windows in SVGA modes a couple
of different ways. I'm using an Orchid Pro-Designer IIs (TSENG 4000)
SVGA board with one Meg. I simply installed the Windows 3.0 drivers
that came with my video board. All three (256 color) drivers worked
fine: 640x480, 800x600, 1024x768. The easiest way I found to install
them was to look at the \OS2\MDOS\WINOS2\SYSTEM.INI file on the line
that says display.drv=vga.drv (about line 17 or so) and change it to
display.drv=1024x256.drv or whatever the name of the windows driver
that came with your card is. Then be sure, of course, to copy that
driver to your \OS2\MDOS\WINOS2\SYSTEM directory. The same procedure
also worked fine with the WINSPEED drivers available at your local
software retailer. If you are going to purchase the WINSPEED driver
set (I forget who makes it...) be sure to check that your video board
is one that they support. They work fine on my machine, but I could
not detect any noticeable speedup. Since I'm running full screen Windows
in 1024x768x256 mode and it seems as fast as the former 640x480x16, I'd
say that's not bad...

GENE STEELE   San Jose Design Services, Specials.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 00:34:47 on 92/07/29 GMT (by SOYRING at AUSVM1)
Subject: Missing Printer Icon - Long Installation
Ref:     Append at 16:50:15 on 92/07/24 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST)

Chris, as you know, we have been making individual fixes publicly
available on several bulletin boards. We are in the process of pack-
aging up a set of fixes which we call a Service Pak. This Service Pak
is being tested extensively to ensure the highest possible level of
quality. The test results will dictate the date we make it available
as quality (rather than schedule) remains our top priority. We are in
the final stages of IBM  internal testing.

John A. Soyring

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 12:55:30 on 92/07/29 GMT (by XXSUNL45 at TORVMCOP)
Subject: Moving to a bigger drive
Ref:     Append at 02:31:21 on 92/07/28 GMT (by ALLT001 at OS2CUST)

Have you tried WPSBK3?  It is a shareware product on many OS/2 BBSs
that backs up and restores your desktop.

Wilf Lee

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 13:23:18 on 92/07/29 GMT (by UOFT003 at OS2CUST)
Subject: OS/2 Remote Install Using NFS

Has anyone been successful with installing OS/2 SE from an NFS server as
documented in GG24-3780 "OS/2 Version 2.0 Remote Installation and Maintenance"?

We've been able to get the client to the point of mounting the NFS disk
but installation fails at that point.  Problems seem to be with executing
programs from the NFS disk.  Cannot even get a simple .CMD file to execute,
as if the client is missing something.

Doug Sinnott

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 14:23:34 on 92/07/29 GMT (by AMG at CARVM3) --
Subject: Remote install/config of OS/2 via the LAN

Perhaps my first append was a bit too vague.

I am aware of several remote install tools, but I would really like to
have the product diskettes (OS/2 1.3 EE, OS/2 2.0, ES 1.0, and LS 2.0)
on the LAN and would like to force the appropriate programs (such as
REINT, ESCFG, EECFG, etc...) to look for the diskettes on the LAN instead
of on A:.  I have found appropriate information for ES 1.0 in the readme
file for that package.  Does anyone have suggestions on where to look for
similar information on the other packages?

Adam Greene
(amg @ carvm3)

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 15:24:47 on 92/07/29 GMT (by ALLT001 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Moving to a bigger drive
Ref: Append at 12:55:30 on 92/07/29 GMT (by XXSUNL45 at TORVMCOP)

Sounds like that will do the trick. Will give it a try ...

Bruce M. Ferry, ALLTEL Corporation

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 15:50:09 on 92/07/29 GMT (by WLELLIS at STLVM7)
Subject: OS/2 Remote Install Using NFS
Ref:     Append at 13:23:18 on 92/07/29 GMT (by UOFT003 at OS2CUST)

I got it to work, but gave up because it was so much slower than the
NetBIOS-driven install.

The thing that bit me was the fact that the documentation was written
using a TCP/IP on a 1.3 Server, and I was using TCP/IP 1.2.1 on OS/2 V2.
The major bug I hit was that the documentation specified "NFS.IFS"
as a required driver, when it should have been "NFS200.IFS".  Before
making that correction, whenever I tried to access the Mounted drive,
I got a Trap 00D.

The other problem was that NETBIND.EXE needed for the LT disk is in
\IBMCOM\PROTOCOL\ subdirectory, not in \IBMCOM\ as the document says.

Bill Ellis  (WLELLIS @ STLVM7)  1992/07/29 08:47 PDT

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 17:10:30 on 92/07/29 GMT (by WRL0003 at OS2CUST)
Subject: urgent!  rec'd trap D installing extended services on 1.3 base

i am receiving a trap d trying to install os/2 extended services 1.0 on
an os/2 1.30.2 base ps/2.  i deleted the os/2 command reference and
made sure nothing was running, then issued the esinst command at the
c: prompt (also tried issuing at the a: prompt).  after the initial menu
appears, i press the 'continue' button, then the trap occurs as follows:

session title:
esmig.exe

sys1943:  a program caused a protection violation.

trap 000d

any help would be appreciated.

TINA DALLAS

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 19:30:23 on 92/07/29 GMT (by PRCI041 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Remote install/config of OS/2 via the LAN
Ref: Append at 14:23:34 on 92/07/29 GMT (by AMG at CARVM3) --

I asked IBM for the same information regarding Lan Requester installation.
Their response was no dice - can't be done right now.  Apparently there are
some IBM internal only programs that will do some of this.

I have followed the ES readme file and it installs fine off the LAN.  For the
base system, I've had to set up a RIPL server.  This too works just fine and
takes about 20 minutes.  The fact that Lan Requester won't install is a major
pain.

Mark Polly - Progressive Insurance

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 20:49:01 on 92/07/29 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Missing Printer Icon - Long Installation
Ref: Append at 00:34:47 on 92/07/29 GMT (by SOYRING at AUSVM1)

John,
Could you please address this
specific problem and whether it will be fixed in the "Service Pack".

I appreciated your reply, it illustrates that someone is listening to us on
this BBS!  I would like to add that it is the quality of the support as well as
the quality of the product that is at issue here.  Yesterday, I had a conversa-
tion with an OS/2 support person that spent much of his time explaining to me
why I shouldn't need a boot partition greater than 100MB with HPFS, instead of
showing any interest in solving the problem.  If you could please address this
specific (known) problem, and when it will be fixed I will be able to decide if

Chris Knoell (MGH)

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 00:47:43 on 92/07/30 GMT (by SOYRING at AUSVM1)
Subject: Missing Printer Icon - Long Installation
Ref:     Append at 20:49:01 on 92/07/29 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST)

Chris, I will ask someone who is more competitent than I to answer
your question.

John A. Soyring

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 13:17:08 on 92/07/30 GMT (by KENWH at AUSVM1)
..... OS2INST CFORUM modified at 14:53:26 on 92/07/30 GMT (by KENWH at AUSVM1)
Subject: urgent!  rec'd trap D installing extended services on 1.3 base
Ref:     Append at 17:10:30 on 92/07/29 GMT (by WRL0003 at OS2CUST)

Tina,

There are two know problems with ESMIG.EXE which result in a Trap-D.

The first one arises when ESMIG is processing the STARTUP.CMD file.
ESMIG examines the STARTUP.CMD for any of the following strings.

CMLIB
SQLLIB
IBMLAN
MUGLIB
SET QRWDR=
CM
STARTCM
STARTDBM
NET

**Note: ESMIG recognizes either upper or lower case, but not
mixed case.

When any of these strings is found, ESMIG REMs out the line containing
the string.  If the string is found in the first line of the STARTUP.CMD
file, a Trap-D occurs.  ESMIG fails to recognize the end of the line
containing the string and continues to decrement an index into the buffe
containing the line.  Eventually the index is decremented far enough
beyond the boundary of the buffer to cause a segmentation violation.
As a work-around, the user can remove the first line from the STARTUP.CM
file.  REMing the line will not prevent the Trap-D.

example:   Start cm cjblan   <----------- remove from the STARTUP.CMD
           Logon
           Call d:/tcpip/bin/tcpstart.cmd

The register data for this Trap-D should be similar to that shown below.
The important part being the CS and the IP.

Session name : ESMIG.EXE

    TRAP-000D
    AX:6135      BX:30CA     CX:029C     DX:FFFF   BP:587C
    SI:0000      DI:0067     DS:0087     ES:0067   FLG:2297
    CS:0047      IP:2F68     SS:0087     SP:585A   MSW:FFFD
    CSLIM:7BC2   SSLIM:A8BF  DSLIM:A8BF  ESLIM:D4F5
    CSACC:FB   SSACC:F3  DSACC:F3  ESACC:F3
    ERRCD:0000   ERLIM:****  ERACC:**

The second arises when ESMIG is processing the CONFIG.SYS file.
ESMIG examines the CONFIG.SYS for any of the following strings.

CMLIB
SQLLIB
IBMLAN
MUGLIB
SET QRWDR=

**Note: ESMIG recognizes either upper or lower case, but not
mixed case.

When any of these strings is found and that line also contains PATH or
HELP, ESMIG will remove the string from the line.

example:  SET PATH=C:\OS2;C:\MUGLIB;C:\OS2\SYSTEM;
                          ^        ^
                          |        |
 ESMIG tries to remove C:\MUGLIB; from this line.  ESMIG starts at the
C:\MUGLIB and searchs for the next semicolon.  If your CONFIG.SYS file
has some other line with one of those strings in it and also containing
PATH or HELP, you've got a Trap-D in the making.

example of the other line:  DEVICE=C:\IBMLAN\NETPROG\RDRHELP.SYS

As ESMIG incremented an index through the buffer containing the offendin
line, it failed to find a semicolon.  Consequently it continued to
increment until it causes a segmentation violation.  The user may remove
the line from the CONFIG.SYS before installing ES 1.0 over EE 1.3 with
CSD 5050 or greater.  REMing the line will not prevent the Trap-D.

The register data for this Trap-D should be similar to that shown below.
The important part being the CS and the IP.

Session name : ESMIG.EXE

    TRAP-000D
    AX:0000      BX:0507     CX:0002     DX:FFFF   BP:587C
    SI:15AE      DI:01BC     DS:0087     ES:0067   FLG:2297
    CS:0047      IP:28F7     SS:0087     SP:585A   MSW:FFFD
    CSLIM:7BC2   SSLIM:A8BF  DSLIM:A8BF  ESLIM:D4F5
    CSACC:FB   SSACC:F3  DSACC:F3  ESACC:F3
    ERRCD:0000   ERLIM:****  ERACC:**

| I will send you a new ESMIG.EXE that should resolve either of these
| problems.  The new ESMIG can be copied onto the install diskette in
| place of the orginal.  You may want to make a backup of the original
| file first.  If the register data for your problem does not closely
| match either of these, then please include your register data in an
| append.

| I am unable to send you the new ESMIG.EXE. These problems were
| documented in Apars.  The new ESMIG.EXE was provided to level
| 2.0 and 2.5 support.  Please contact your appropriate support
| organization.  They should be able to provide the new ESMIG.EXE.
| I am sorry I could not.  In the mean time, you could try the
| work-arounds that I have mentioned.

Ken Whitcomb

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 15:34:33 on 92/07/30 GMT (by AABA0EM at OS2CUST)
Subject: urgent!  rec'd trap D installing extended services on 1.3 base
Ref: Append at 13:17:08 on 92/07/30 GMT (by KENWH at AUSVM1)

Ken,
Can you have the new ESMIG.EXE posted here for downloading?

Bob Holmes  Southern California Gas

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 16:41:05 on 92/07/30 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Missing Printer Icon - Long Installation
Ref: Append at 00:47:43 on 92/07/30 GMT (by SOYRING at AUSVM1)

John,

I'm sorry the last message was garbled!  What many of us are probably wondering
at this point is; what is the relationship between the recently mentioned
"Service Pak" and OS/2 2.0a, OS/2 2.01, OS/2 2.1, CSD's and the individual
fixes.  Which of these avenues should we expect IBM to take, and what is the
general timeframe for release.  Will the "Service Pak" in itself offer any new
features - or will it only repair what is broken.  It seems to me that a bug
can be construed as a necessary but absent feature - such as finding out the
number of items and their total size in a folder.

Chris Knoell (MGH)

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 21:18:55 on 92/07/30 GMT (by SOYRING at AUSVM1)
..... OS2INST CFORUM modified at 21:27:49 on 92/07/30 GMT (by SOYRING at AUSVM1)
Subject: Missing Printer Icon - Long Installation
Ref:     Append at 16:41:05 on 92/07/30 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST)

Chris, the Service Paks will contain bug fixes. In addition (and they
should be relatively independent) there will be a series of upgrade
packages. I do not yet know what number will be assigned to each
upgrade package. For example, the 32-bit GRE will probably be separate
from the Win3.1 support.

John A. Soyring

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 21:35:03 on 92/07/30 GMT (by NAAO3IY at OS2CUST)
Subject: Remote install/config of OS/2 via the LAN
Ref: Append at 17:35:53 on 92/07/27 GMT (by AMG at CARVM3) --

Check out IBM publication GG24-3780, which expressly addresses the point.

Yesterday I went to a seminar presented by the "advisor" of the pub,
who remarked that over the next year or so, changes in OS/2, ES and LS
will make it all easier.

John Kennedy -- Hoechst Celanese, Bridgewater, NJ

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 22:22:23 on 92/07/30 GMT (by XXVALC01 at TORVMCOP)
Subject: 32 Bit GRE

I have seen a couple of things recently which make me wonder if 32-bit
GRE will support 8514 1024x768 seamless windows.

We have recently standardized on 8514 because it has been the most
widely supported standard in the software we are using (mainly Windows
and PM).

We will be very upset if this is not supported!

Tony Valenti
Valcomp Technology Inc.
[phone]

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 00:09:16 on 92/07/31 GMT (by N$H52HAL at RALVM11)
Subject: Remote install/config of OS/2 via the LAN
Ref:     Append at 19:30:23 on 92/07/29 GMT (by PRCI041 at OS2CUST)

I have been working on getting my remote LAN Services installtion
package released to the public for the past two weeks.

Hang in there.  Things are starting to move.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 12:01:51 on 92/07/31 GMT (by BMCMAHON at HOUVMSCC)
..... OS2INST CFORUM modified at 16:31:44 on 92/08/04 GMT (by BMCMAHON at HOUVMSCC)
Subject: Mouse Problems with OS/2
Ref:     Append at 23:05:40 on 92/07/10 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8)

I have a 3-button Logitech Series 9 PS/2-Serial mouse. In order to use
the middle button I have connected the mouse, through an adapter plug, to
the COM1 port. I tried to install the mouse as a PS/2 pointing device and
as a serial pointing device. Neither worked. For each option I got the
following lines in my CONFIG.SYS.

PS/2 Pointing Device:    DEVICE=C:\OS2\MOUSE.SYS

Serial Pointing Device:  DEVICE=C:\OS2\MOUSE.SYS SERIAL=COM1

I ended up putting into CONFIG.SYS what I was using under 1.3. I use the
following lines:.

DEVICE=C:\OS2\PCMOU02.SYS
DEVICE=C:\OS2\MOUSE.SYS TYPE=PCMOU$

To make a long story short, I still have a mouse problem when I start
Microsoft Project for Windows 1.0 in a WIN-OS2 session. After Project is
fully initialized, the mouse pointer disappears. After I terminate
Project, the mouse works fine on the desktop.

Thanks in advance. If all else fails, I may have to move the mouse back
to the mouse port.

Bob McMahon
IBM FSC Houston
Space Station Control Center

| The mouse also does not work on other Windows applications like Paint
| Brush. Any help would be appreciated.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 13:08:08 on 92/07/31 GMT (by KENWH at AUSVM1)
..... OS2INST CFORUM modified at 21:20:00 on 92/08/06 GMT (by KENWH at AUSVM1)
Subject: urgent!  rec'd trap D installing extended services on 1.3 base
Ref:     Append at 15:34:33 on 92/07/30 GMT (by AABA0EM at OS2CUST)

Bob,

I am making some inquiries concerning posting the fix for download.
In the mean time, try the work-arounds for situations where the
problem exists on small numbers of machines.  Where the number of
machines affected is too large for the work-arounds to be practical,
the best thing to do is contact your SE, or 2.0 level support.  They
should be able to provide the fix.  When I have received an answer
concerning posting the fix for download, I will post the results in
this forum.

| Please direct questions concerning or requests for ESMIG.EXE to
| Wayne Farmer (WDFARMER at RALVM5).  Wayne is the appropriate
| contact for these matters.  He is evaluating the possibility of
| placing the fix on OS2BBS for customer download.

Ken Whitcomb (KENWH at AUSVM2)

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 17:53:53 on 92/07/31 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC)
Subject: 32 Bit GRE
Ref:     Append at 22:22:23 on 92/07/30 GMT (by XXVALC01 at TORVMCOP)

The 32-bit GRE will support 8514 1024x768 seamless windows, though it
may be after VGA, XGA, and SVGA.  You can still get some benefit from
the 32-bit GRE even with the 16-bit 8514 display drivers (no seamless
Windows, but somewhat faster graphic stuff).

Nathan Davis -- IBM FSC - Houston, TX

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 15:17:12 on 92/08/01 GMT (by X012897 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Install dies right before diskette #6.

I am trying to upgrade a PS/2 Model 8580-161 from OS/2 1.3 to 2.0.

The 80 is configured with 10MB of RAM (4 on the planar and 6 on a
memory expansion board). It also has an IBM XGA card w/1MB of video
ram and a IBM 3270 card Version B.

I go thru diskettes Installation, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, Installation and then
a screen pops up and says:

"The hard disk preparation is complete. The next step
 will be OS/2 system configuration.

 Remove the diskette from the diskette drive.

 Press the Enter key to start OS/2 system configuration."

I then remove the Installation diskette and press Enter.
Nothing happens. The PC just beeps and I can go no further.

One more side note. When installing from diskettes 1-5, not all files
get copied from the diskette. The progress indicator will say approx.
10% complete and then I am prompted for the next diskette.

Any ideas on what the cause and resolution might be?

John Hummel, Prudential Insurance Co.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 21:29:14 on 92/08/02 GMT (by RDEBAY at BCRVMPC1)
..... OS2INST CFORUM modified at 23:28:00 on 92/08/03 GMT (by RDEBAY at BCRVMPC1)
Ref:     Append at 15:17:12 on 92/08/01 GMT (by X012897 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Install dies right before diskette

  This is a known problem with the file systems shutdown.  It went away
during development and reappeared with the GA release.  Simply reboot
your computer by pressing Ctl-Alt-Del, or if this doesn't work turn the
machine off and then on.  All that happens when you press enter at this
point is that the machine reboots itself.

Rick DeBay
OS/2 Technical Support
| for those of you with access to the defect databases, the defect number
| is 25165, which refers to ptr 733097 (I don't know its defect no.)

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 02:10:06 on 92/08/03 GMT (by XXVALC01 at TORVMCOP)
Subject: 32 Bit GRE
Ref:     Append at 17:53:53 on 92/07/31 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC)

Thanks for the good news that 8514 seamless will be supported in
32-bit.

I hope it's not too much after!

Tony Valenti
Valcomp Technology Inc.
[phone]

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 18:52:32 on 92/08/03 GMT (by GRESSEX at ATLVMIC1)
Subject: Install dies right before diskette #6.
Ref: append at 15:17:12 on 92/08/01 GMT (by X012897 at OS2CUST)

You are not alone.  I have had this problem several times and the
culprit has always been either the memory board or non-IBM memory
SIMMs.  I speak from experience and not with an understanding of "WHY."

First try installing without the memory board (this usually eliminates
the hang before the system reboots).  If it is an IBM memory
board with IBM SIMMs you will most likely be able to add the memory
board to the machine after install and all will run great.  If it
is a non-IBM board with non-IBM SIMMs, probably not.  Your best bet
is to replace it with an IBM board and SIMMs.

If you have non-IBM SIMMs on the system board you can sometimes get
away with replacing them with different non-IBM SIMMs.  Otherwise
try IBM memory.  I have found OS/2 to be far more "persnickety"
about memory than even the reference diagnostics.

Hope this helps,

Rey

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 13:06:43 on 92/08/04 GMT (by UOFT003 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Who's responsible for RSPINST

Does anyone know what group in IBM is responsible for RSPINST.  I've been
fighting a Sev 1 problem for a week and the support center hasn't figured
out what queue to place the problem in.  RSPINST comes on disk 7 of the
SE install in a file names REQUIRED but noone seems to know who fixes it
when it's broke.

Doug Sinnott

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 13:12:26 on 92/08/04 GMT (by SDETWEIL at DETVMIC4)
Subject: Who's responsible for RSPINST
Ref:     Append at 13:06:43 on 92/08/04 GMT (by UOFT003 at OS2CUST)

RSPINST is owned by the OS/2 Install team in Boca.

Sam

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 13:12:43 on 92/08/04 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1)
Subject: Install dies right before diskette #6.
Ref:     Append at 15:17:12 on 92/08/01 GMT (by X012897 at OS2CUST)

Suspect you RAN out of SPACE on your drive. Did you reformat? How much
space is left? Did you get the RED SCREEN telling you you didn't have
enough space and went on?

Irv Spalten  BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 19:19:09 on 92/08/05 GMT (by BCHI040 at OS2CUST)
Subject: OS/2 1.3 and the IBM M57

This may sound odd but we have an application that will only run
under OS/2 1.3 and we tried to install on an out of the box IBM M57
with 2.88 3.5 and 80Mb Hdand the install failed each time with an
unable to locate A:\COUNTRY.SYS which is located on the first install
disk.   We also tried three other versions of OS/2 1.3 and all
returned the same error on the M57.  The only thing that I have been
able to point this to is the M57 has the new 2.88 3.5 disk drive.  We
had to install OS/2 1.3 on another PC to run the old application.   I
dont know if this is a problem with OS/2 1.3 or the M57.

Another note:  I also tried to install OS/2 1.2 on the M57 and
received the same error.

OS/2 2.0 Installed without any problems on the M57.

Jerry Hittle, Hawaii Medical Service Ass'n

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 19:26:08 on 92/08/05 GMT (by NAAO3IY at OS2CUST)
Subject: OS/2 1.3 and the IBM M57
Ref: Append at 19:19:09 on 92/08/05 GMT (by BCHI040 at OS2CUST)

You need 1.3.1, not 1.3.  You can (or could) get a free trade-in.

John Kennedy -- Hoechst Celanese, Bridgewater, NJ

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 20:24:13 on 92/08/06 GMT (by LANCER at AUSVM1)
Subject: Remote install/config of OS/2 via the LAN
Ref:     Append at 19:30:23 on 92/07/29 GMT (by PRCI041 at OS2CUST)

There are two methods of doing a remote install of the LAN
Requester remotely.

  1. On the OS2LAN CFORUM this is an append by Hal Humphrey
  where a service is provided to install LAN Services.  You
  will need your IBM rep.  to get the package for you.  I have
  not used it so I can not give you any more information.

  2. The Beta for the next release of LAN Server is scheduled
  to be shipped soon.  This Beta has remote install
  capability, however it is Beta code.  Contact Jennifer
  Kennedy in Austin, Tx.  to see about getting the Beta code.

Lance Rosenquist
LAN Development

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 15:20:27 on 92/08/07 GMT (by AYP1Q01 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Ctrl-Alt-Delete hangs

Any time I try to reboot with Ctrl-Alt-Delete, whether after shutting down,
while running, or after booting from the install diskettes, the process
hangs after the OS/2 logo screens.  I am forced to power down and watch
while CHKDSK rebuilds my HPFS disks.

I am running on a model 70, 160MB HD, IBM TR Adapter card, with ES and LS.
The drive is partitioned with a 53MB C: partition (the system just barely
fits, but it works, and this happened before I partitioned the drive, too)
and everything else - including SWAPPER.DAT - on the D: drive.  I have
downloaded and applied all applicable fixes from this BBS, including the
new OS2KRNL and HPFS, and they have not caused me any problems, but they
did not fix this one, either.

Any ideas?  This is consistent- I have never been able to reboot this way.
When I have to Ctrl-Alt-Delete now, I do so and power off as soon as the
hard disk light goes out, so that files are closed properly.

Thanks.

Steve Bassler, Allegheny Power

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 18:00:26 on 92/08/07 GMT (by RDEBAY at BCRVMPC1)
Subject: Ctrl-Alt-Delete hangs
Ref:     Append at 15:20:27 on 92/08/07 GMT (by AYP1Q01 at OS2CUST)

  See my previous append on known problems with shutdown.  It is
documented in DCR 24690.  The problem is that the system is having
a problem flushing the buffers (like if you had a diskette in the drive
and it's not in there any more) and the hard error handler can't post
the message because it's not allowed to during a shutdown.  This is
being worked on (unless you're having a different problem with similar
symptoms :-).

Rick DeBay
OS/2 Tech Support

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 11:55:49 on 92/08/10 GMT (by SCOTTW at FSHVMCC)
Subject: install problems
Ref:     Append at 18:00:26 on 92/08/07 GMT (by RDEBAY at BCRVMPC1)
   i am trying to install OS2 V2 Base on on model 80
   the system loads the install disk fine asks for disk
   number 1 when disk is inserted and the return key pressed
   it will load for about 10 seconds and then reboots
   i have tried express and removing all cards form
   the pc all with the same results has anyone seen this
   before thanks for any help you can give me

   bill

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 12:05:47 on 92/08/10 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1)
Subject: install problems
Ref:     Append at 11:55:49 on 92/08/10 GMT (by SCOTTW at FSHVMCC)

Usual problem here is BAD MEMORY. Get SADA from OS2PROD...

  Selection: OS2PROD, OS2CSD, OS2PROD2                      199 items  10
 Package  Vers  Rel Date Description                         TOOLCAT Vers
 SADA     2.1   92/05/11 IBM PS/2 Service Aid Diskette Version 2.1  3.5"

It has the capability to show the problem SIMM on a PS/2.

Irv Spalten  BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 12:10:47 on 92/08/10 GMT (by LADICK at STFVM4)
Subject: SADA Disk
Ref:     Append at 12:05:47 on 92/08/10 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1)

Please note I discovered a problem with this disk awhile back and
did not know where to identify problem so i will stick a note
here since it was referenced as a diagnostic aid.  The disk as it
comes from pcrod will not boot succesfully on a machine that has
3/4 scsi drives if you install dos 5.0 on the disk, ( ie. sys A:
and copy ansi.sys onto disk it will work )  this is same problem i
found with the ripldisk supplied with the lanserver prod.. It seems
they used dos 3.3 as the os and it can not handel the scsi drives.

L. A. DICK

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 12:37:13 on 92/08/10 GMT (by XXCDSX26 at TORVMCOP)
Subject: install problems
Ref:     Append at 11:55:49 on 92/08/10 GMT (by SCOTTW at FSHVMCC)

Bill:

If you have an old Mod80, another cause could be a downleveled
reference diskette.  Get the latest reference diskette from IBM
(V1.12 I believe) and re-configure your machine with it.

Michael Harper - Cdn Depository for Securities, Ltd

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 14:47:24 on 92/08/10 GMT (by AYP1Q01 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Ctrl-Alt-Delete hangs
Ref: Append at 18:00:26 on 92/08/07 GMT (by RDEBAY at BCRVMPC1)

Rick,

What and where is "DCR 24690"?

I'm not sure we're talking about the same problem here.  I cannot use
Ctrl-Alt-Del to reboot, at all, ever, because it hangs every time.  Even
after doing a clean shutdown, or if I have a minimal system, like after
booting from the install diskettes.

Steve Bassler, Allegheny Power

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 17:58:02 on 92/08/10 GMT (by HITTR at OS2CUST)
Subject: customize setup w/ applications and setting
Ref: Append at 12:10:31 on 92/07/03 GMT (by STIRLING at WINVMC)

Is there a way to implement a logon script for OS/2 requesters.  We have severa
l environmental variables that we set for DLR users.  When they start applicati
ons, the environmental variables are used to put them in the correct directory.
  We are currently hardcoding the variables in the CONFIG.SYS but this means th
e variables are all wrong if someone else logs on.  Also, every time someone ad
vances, quits or retires, we have to physically go to the machine.  Right now t
his is not a problem with only 15 or so OS/2 2.0 users, but what can we do when
 there are 150?!?!?

What are other folks doing?

Ian,

I have the manuals now and they seems to be helpful if not somewhat twisted.  M
y next problem is related to the same thing though?  I don't see any way to set
 the indivudual attributes of the DOS Settings box.  Most of our users really w
ant OS/2 2.0 just to run multiple DOS apps.  How can I set these in a REXX rout
ine (or C if necessary)?  Am I missing something (as is usually the case)?

Thanks for your help.

Bob Hitt, Missouri Highway & Transportation Department

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 15:34:15 on 92/08/11 GMT (by 64936174 at TOROHON1)
Subject: Install dies right before diskette #6.
Ref:     Append at 13:12:43 on 92/08/04 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1)

I have similar problem on a model 65.  It hangs before disk #6 but
the installation reaches 100% for each diskette.  I'm using a 640Meg
hard drive. Any suggestions???

Rob Chan.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 17:29:58 on 92/08/11 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Install dies right before diskette #6.
Ref: Append at 15:34:15 on 92/08/11 GMT (by 64936174 at TOROHON1)

Rob;
Are you creating one large partition? Did you re-format the disk?
Is the system setup in HPFS or FAT?

There are known problems with OS/2 2.0 and large partitions.  If you
want to do a quick (joke) test create a boot partition as 100 megs.  The
other partition will be a logical drive.
PS: This may sound silly but if you decide to use HPFS, first format
in FAT then after FAT is completed, reboot and format under HPFS.
There is a bug in the format program when you go from a large HPFS
partition to a smaller one.

Let me know how you do.

OS/2 2.0 GA Beta Version 1  (My computer is at the OS/2 Boca Doctor's)

Jerry Sitbon [phone]

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 18:09:58 on 92/08/11 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1)
Subject: Install dies right before diskette #6.
Ref:     Append at 15:34:15 on 92/08/11 GMT (by 64936174 at TOROHON1)

Does the 640MB exceed the 1024 cylinder limit? Could also be a problem
with the host card translation.

Irv Spalten  BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 20:58:45 on 92/08/11 GMT (by DEBROSE at SBRYVM2)
Subject: Loading Device Driver For Super VGA Monitor

I installed OS2 2.0 on an IBM compatible PC.  I couldn't find the
documentation for installing the device driver for the super VGA monitor.
The README file mentions that OS2 supports SVGA, but doesn't point to
a library where the device driver should be installed.  Also, super VGA
is not an option as far as choosing what kind of monitor is being used.

How do I tell OS2 about the super VGA monitor?

Thanks,

Debra Rose -- Southbury, CT

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 21:08:49 on 92/08/11 GMT (by 64936174 at TOROHON1)
Subject: Install dies right before diskette #6.
Ref:     Append at 18:09:58 on 92/08/11 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1)

I re-partitioned the 640MEG hard drive with a lower OS/2 partition of
80 megs and OS/2 2.0 installed ! :)   Thx for the help.  Does anyone
know the limit of the OS/2 partition and whether or not there is a
fix for this bug?

Rob Chan.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 12:35:13 on 92/08/12 GMT (by PERSHNG at YKTVMH)
Subject: Install dies right before diskette #6.
Ref:     Append at 21:08:49 on 92/08/11 GMT (by 64936174 at TOROHON1)

The story that is currently kicking around is that OS/2 has problems
installing and/or running in an HPFS boot partition that is larger than
100 Megs.  OS/2 Development is aware of the problem.

(I successfully installed on a single-partition, 315-Meg drive and am
running just fine.  However, I am told that the system would run faster
if I would partition this down to less than 100 Megs.)

John A. Pershing Jr.                            pershng @ watson.ibm.com
IBM Research, Yorktown Heights                  PERSHNG at YKTVMH.BITNET

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 14:07:33 on 92/08/12 GMT (by BOBENNIS at HOUVMSCC)
Subject: Can't repeat good first install

I had OS/2 2.0 (shrink-wrapped copy) installed on a Dell 450 DE2. Worked
fine. Installed, then ran HyperPAD. Apparently HyperPAD isn't compatible
with OS/2. I got an abend on exit from HyperPAD and "hung". Only thing
I could do was to hit the reset button. On re-IPL, the system proceeded
on its own to the same abend and hung again. Same thing on subsequent try.

To get out of that loop, I re-installed DOS 5.0, erased the files in the
OS2 directory, then started to re-install OS/2. Processing of the
Install diskette and Diskette 1 seemed to be "normal" (what I remembered
from the initial installation). But diskettes 2,3,4 and 5 seemed to be -
based on the displayed "status bar" and the read times - only partially
read before the system asked for the next diskette. Looked like the bar
got to around 35% complete for #2, 10% or less complete for #3 and #4,
maybe 50% complete on #5. Then the "trademarks" screen that announces
that OS/2 was going to be configured upon <enter> was displayed. I hit
<enter> and almost immediately got a "beep" from the speaker and the
system was hung.

Repeated. Same result.

Thought the installation diskettes may have somehow gotten corrupted, so
I tried using a set down-loaded at work. Same result.

Almost as if there is a flag left over from the original successful
install that now confuses install and makes it lose track of where
in the process it is.

I am stymied. I will appreciate any information/suggestions as to
how to get OS/2 to install.

Bob Ennis

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 15:24:30 on 92/08/12 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Install dies right before diskette #6.
Ref: Append at 21:08:49 on 92/08/11 GMT (by 64936174 at TOROHON1)

Rob;
The problem is known by IBM and from what I understand a fix is in the
works.  It has not as of yet been released.
In fact my PS2 80-041 is now at the Boca OS/2 site.  They are trying to
solve other problems with OS/2 and various memory adapters.
As soon as I know the status I will post it.
For now I recommend that you do not exceed a partition of 100 to 120 megs
for the boot area.
By the way were you able to format the logical drive that remained?

OS/2 2.0 GA Beta version 1

Jerry Sitbon [phone]

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 16:15:28 on 92/08/12 GMT (by BOBENNIS at HOUVMSCC)
Subject: Can't repeat good first install
Ref:     Append at 14:07:33 on 92/08/12 GMT (by BOBENNIS at HOUVMSCC)

Additional information on problem environment...

The successful initial install did not involve re-partitioning or
reformatting the hard drive (and so obviously the HPFS was not involved).
I have a single 320MB partition on the hard disk. The subsequent
unsuccessful attempts to re-install also did not involve re-partitioning
or re-formatting. Still FAT file system; single partition.

Bob Ennis

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 18:02:49 on 92/08/12 GMT (by SDAVIS1 at DALVMIC1)
Subject: Loading Device Driver For Super VGA Monitor
Ref:     Append at 20:58:45 on 92/08/11 GMT (by DEBROSE at SBRYVM2)

Debra,

I know the OS2 Tips and Techniques document that is available
internally on the OS2TOOLS repository has a section near
the end on Super VGA, and the README file in the root
directory of an installed OS/2 2.0 machine has information
on running the command SVGA ON, that sets up your CONFIG.SYS
for Super VGA mode.

Steve Davis  IBM Dallas

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 23:26:02 on 92/08/12 GMT (by IL26761 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Can't repeat good first install
Ref: Append at 16:15:28 on 92/08/12 GMT (by BOBENNIS at HOUVMSCC)

Bob,

Your problem is that you used DOS to delete stuff from the OS/2
disks.  You should have booted the OS/2 Install Disk & Disk#1 and
Escaped to A: and done the deletes.  Now if you try booting from the
above disks and ESC to A: insert Disk#2 and run CHKDSK /F from there
it might straightened things out.  If not use this procedure to
delete the OS/2 files run CHKDSK and then reinstall.   DOS can't
correct a OS/2 disk or delete files successfully from it.

Jack Hiatt   MARC-Life   Atlanta Ga.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 12:51:29 on 92/08/13 GMT (by 64936174 at TOROHON1)
Subject: Install dies right before diskette #6.
Ref:     Append at 15:24:30 on 92/08/12 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST)

Jerry, I haven't formatted the remaining logical drives.  I don't see
any problems but will post a note if there is one.

The problem that I was having may be related to the partition size but
I later found out that a memory card I was using was not configured
properly.  The automatic configuration proceedure had reset one of
the memory card parameters which requested how much memory is available
before adding this card.  The selected option was 1 Meg but the machine
had 6 Megs.  I guess when OS/2 2.0 was loading into higher memory, it
crapped out while trying to use the memory adapter.  I was using a
FAT file system but it is still good to know that there is a problem
with HPFS with boot partitions greater than 100Megs(?).

Thx. for all the input everybody.

Rob Chan
SI Custom Products and Programming Solutions.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 14:23:36 on 92/08/13 GMT (by CUH7111 at OS2CUST)
Subject: OS/2 Installation On Machine with (2) Physical Drives

Just installed OS/2 2.0 on a machine with 2 physical drives with following
configuration:
Disk1:  C: Partition
        E: Partition
Disk2:  D: Partition
        F: Partition
        G: Partition

All Partitions are formated FAT. OS/2 is installed on C Partition. OS/2
sees partitions on Disk2 but claims they are NOT formated. All partitions
on Disk1 are OK. Can Boot on DOS A: and DOS sees and can read data on ALL
Disks/Partitions! Can Any One shed some light on this issue?

Chuck Hull

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 15:37:00 on 92/08/13 GMT (by DARKELF at BCRVM1)
Subject: Can't repeat good first install
Ref:     Append at 14:07:33 on 92/08/12 GMT (by BOBENNIS at HOUVMSCC)

You have to use an OS/2 prompt to do deletes of OS/2 files.
Start with your install disk.
Insert disk 1 on request.
Hit escape when prompted for either enter or escape on disk one, this
will give you an OS/2 prompt.

I would also start with a fresh config.sys since OS/2 changed the old
one.

If you get your system installed and personalized (i.e. icons, screens,
applications) then repeat the above procedure and backup your desktop
by copying c:\config.sys, c:\os2\os2.ini and c:\os2\os2sys.ini to
c:\os2\install.
This will backup your personalized desktop and all of your installed
icons so if you ever have to do an install again your own
desktop will be there at the end of your install.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 17:35:48 on 92/08/13 GMT (by DBXB533 at OS2CUST)
Subject: RIPLDISK AND REMOTE INSTALL

When using the RIPLDISK to do a remote install I get the following information
on my screen and the machine just locks up.

   ET-00:00:03
   ID-166

   BU-0000
   AA-10005A33273A
   AL-00 0000 A58769B
   BL-A33861A
   MM-DA00 02
   SR-DC00 16
   OP-0000

   RQ-0001
   SF-0001
   SN-0017

Any ideas what this all means and if so what.  I followed the directions in the
redbook to create the RIPLDISK and I have not been successful in getting it to
work.

Frank Valdivieso

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 18:06:00 on 92/08/13 GMT (by SDAVIS1 at DALVMIC1)
Subject: RIPLDISK AND REMOTE INSTALL
Ref:     Append at 17:35:48 on 92/08/13 GMT (by DBXB533 at OS2CUST)

A defect problem exist with the RPLDISK program that involves
a machine hanging when booted with a RPL disk (APAR IC04077).
Several changes are necessary to make procedure work. You must boot
from a DOS workstation, copy RPLDISK.EXE from the server to a scratch
diskette, and then copy RPLDISK.EXE to the hard drive of the
DOS workstation, and finally run C:\RPLDISK A: -o on a DOS system
diskette from the DOS workstation.

However, you usually will hang before you get the medialess machine
display that you have. Are you sure that you have the hard address
if this machine defined as a RIPL workstation on the server?
If broadcast counter increments in hex every 10 seconds or so on
that screen, then your RIPL Diskette is OK, and the server
definition needs to be checked.

Steve Davis  IBM Southwestern Area Systems Center in Dallas

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 18:37:10 on 92/08/13 GMT (by DBXB533 at OS2CUST)
Subject: RIPLDISK AND REMOTE INSTALL
Ref: Append at 18:06:00 on 92/08/13 GMT (by SDAVIS1 at DALVMIC1)

Steve, I'll try the revised RIPLDISK procedure that you gave me.  Could you tel
l me which value is the broadcast counter that you made reference to. Thanks
and I'll let you know how it goes.

Frank Valdivieso

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 19:14:30 on 92/08/13 GMT (by SDAVIS1 at DALVMIC1)
Subject: RIPLDISK AND REMOTE INSTALL
Ref:     Append at 18:37:10 on 92/08/13 GMT (by DBXB533 at OS2CUST)

Frank. Its 'RQ', and it is a counter of how many times the
RIPL station sends out the 802.2 "Please RIPL ME" request.

Steve Davis

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 20:34:47 on 92/08/13 GMT (by DSOUZA at DALVM41B)
Subject: HP Laser Jet II P

Just installed a laser Jet printer. I am able to print on it directly
from Word Perfect or from Windows.
I cannot print from the OS/2 command line. I cannot do a standard
OS/2 print. Nothing prints. Can you help ?

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 17:18:03 on 92/08/17 GMT (by BOBENNIS at HOUVMSCC)
Subject: Hung Dos 5.0 in boot manager environment
Ref:

Because of an earlier problem, I had to re-install OS/2. This time I
decided to use boot manager and install Dos 5.0 in one partition, OS/2
in another, and all application files in an extended partition (visible
as the "D" drive).

The installation itself went fine, but I have subsequently hit a problem
when I select Dos from the boot manager menu. To me the symptoms
indicate the problem is with Dos 5.0 itself, but I am posting it here to
determine if there is some limitation with the boot-manager/Dos/OS2
environment that I am unwittingly violating.

PROBLEM:
-------
I installed a substantial number of programs on the D drive. The problem
first occurred after I had about 23-25 directories & files in the root
directory on D, a total of about 230 directories on D, and something
over 7,200 files on D. That's a lot of files and directories, but the
only Dos 5.0 constraint I have been able to find is one on the number of
files + directories in the root segment, and I am no where close to
violating that.

I installed another application, then ran it from the Dos Shell; just
opened it and returned to the Dos Shell. The Shell was set to "program
view". Upon return from the application the program list showed only
"Command Prompt", and the Shell was partially disabled. I could, however
switch to "file list" view. I tried to execute an executable from the
file list; the result was a system hang.

Re-set switch time.

Selecting the Dos from boot manager put me right back with an
inoperative Dos. After doing that a few times, I selected OS/2, made the
Dos partition installable, and re-installed Dos. I made the boot manager
startable and selected Dos.

The Dos Shell looked fine (but of course no applications were listed),
so I added a few programs to the program list and ran them. No problem,
initially. But then the same problem occurred: the Shell program list
display shows only "Command Prompt", trying to run "Command Prompt" from
it or anything from the file list results in a hung system.

I repeated this scenario a few times. On one of those occasions I got a
message, apparently from the Dos Shell: "Internal stack overflow; system
halted".

Lacking a better approach, I increased the "stack" settings in
CONFIG.SYS to "stacks=12,512". Re-installed Dos, but the same scenario
ultimatley resulted in the same problem.

At least to the extent that the diagnostics that came with the machine
can tell, there is no hardware problem.

QUESTION: Is there any way that the problem is in the boot-manager/OS2
          environment? Any clues?

Thanks for any enlightenment.

Bob Ennis
FSC, Houston

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 18:24:51 on 92/08/17 GMT (by UDSS013 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Support for (3) Drives

One of my customers has installed OS/2 v2.0 successfully and has been
running since GA.  He tried to add a third drive and cannot get OS/2 v2.0
to correctly recognize all three drives although OS/2 v1.3 can.  The
following is the note that he sent to me.  Any ideas?

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Configuration:
   486/33 clone 16M w/ AMI BIOS
   2 Utlra stor 12F ESDI controllers with 1 660M ESDI drive on each controller
      First controller addressed as C800/interrupt 14
      Second controller addressed as CC00/interrupt 15
   This configuration works fine under both OS/2 1.3 and OS/2 2.0.

Tried to add a Future Domain TMC-1670 SCSI controller with a 1.2 gig hard driv
at address DE00/interrupt 5.  I added the BASEDEV=FD167-700.ADD to config.sys.
When I brought up OS/2 2.0, I did not have access to the SCSI drive, however,
when I bring up OS/2 1.3, I have access to all three drives.

I then tried to format the OS/2 2.0 partition and reinstall OS/2 2.0 with
all three drives installed.  Now when I bring up OS/2 2.0, I have access to
the first ESDI drive and the SCSI drive but do not have access to the second
ESDI drive.  I tried moving the second ESDI drive over to the first ESDI
controller so that both ESDI drives were running off of the first controller
and still when OS/2 2.0 is brought up, I have access the the first ESDI drive
and the SCSI drive, but no access to the second ESDI drive, however, if I
bring up OS/2 1.3, I again have access to all three drives.

Is there some restriction on OS/2 2.0 to two physical hard drives???

Gary Murphy

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 19:03:15 on 92/08/17 GMT (by FORGIONE at OWGVM0)
Subject: Low level format when changing partition sizes.

I had to change the partition size on a 110M ESDI disk from a 40M C
and 70D to a 75M C and a 35M D. After running FDISK I couldn't
format the disk and had to do a low level format before I could
continue. The disk had HPFS on both partitions.
Did I do something wrong or is a LLF required when changing partition
sizes on HPFS?

Mike Forgione
Owego NY.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 12:47:24 on 92/08/18 GMT (by PERSHNG at YKTVMH)
Subject: Low level format when changing partition sizes.
Ref:     Append at 19:03:15 on 92/08/17 GMT (by FORGIONE at OWGVM0)

Somebody (Jerry Sitbon, I think) reported this bug on these FORUMs
recently:  If you repartition an HPFS-formatted drive, then you *first*
have to format it with FAT and then re-format it with HPFS.

John A. Pershing Jr.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 13:20:48 on 92/08/18 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Low level format when changing partition sizes.
Ref: Append at 19:03:15 on 92/08/17 GMT (by FORGIONE at OWGVM0)

Hello Mike;

You did nothing wrong.  What you did discover was a bug in OS/2 FDISK program
and HPFS.  The problem appears when you change from a larger HPFS partition to
a smaller HPFS partition.
I have found a work around to this problem.
Set the partitions as you wish them to be.
If you are changing an HPFS partition from a larger to a smaller one.  First
format in FAT.  Then after formatting reboot and format under HPFS.
You can do all the formatting and Partitioning manually by first booting
on OS/2 then when you have disk 1 inserted and you see the Welcome Message
press the ESC key to get to the A Prompt.
To execute the partition program type:  FDISK
To format in FAT type:  FORMAT drive: /FS:FAT  example: FORMAT C: /FS:FAT
To format in HPFS type: FORMAT drive: /FS:HPFS example: FORMAR D: /FS:HPFS

Once you get it to work, please call in this problem.  IBM can't fix what
they don't know is broken.  I called this in on PMR 7X998.  USe this to
reference your problem.

Hope this helped (You can call me if you have further questions)

Jerry Sitbon [phone]

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 15:25:05 on 92/08/18 GMT (by DBXB533 at OS2CUST)
..... OS2INST CFORUM modified at 17:13:02 on 92/08/18 GMT (by DBXB533 at OS2CUST)
Subject: RIPLDISK AND REMOTE INSTALL
This APPEND was deleted at 13:13:01 on 08/18/92 EST.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 16:47:42 on 92/08/18 GMT (by FORGIONE at OWGVM0)
Subject: Low level format when changing partition sizes.
Ref:     Append at 13:20:48 on 92/08/18 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST)

Thanks for the tip. I'll report it again.
Mike Forgione Owego NY

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 17:28:54 on 92/08/18 GMT (by BOBENNIS at HOUVMSCC)
Subject: Hung Dos 5.0 in boot manager environment
Ref:     Append at 17:18:03 on 92/08/17 GMT (by BOBENNIS at HOUVMSCC)

Are there any known problems with OS2 FDISK and large partition sizes?

In the referred-to problem, all partitions are formatted for the FAT file
system. The extended partition is approximately 300 MB in size. I have
heard some mention of problems with large HPFS partitions, but not FAT
partitions.

Bob Ennis

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 17:29:35 on 92/08/18 GMT (by TRUMBLE at AUSVM1)
Subject: Can't access D:, E:, F: after install of OS/2 2.0
Ref:     None

I installed OS/2 2.0 remotely on C: (over EE 1.3 Golden).  I
did not format C:.  There were no problems during the install,
but when I switched to D:, E:, or F: and did DIR, I got SYS0026:
The specified disk or diskette cannot be accessed.  FDISK said
the partitions were not formatted.

IPL'ing with the EE 1.3 install diskette allowed me to access the
partitions.  I reinstalled, this time formatting C:, and got
the same result.  Any advice?  My tape drive doesn't work so I
really don't want to do a low-level format.

M.K. Trumble

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 01:56:02 on 92/08/19 GMT (by IL22993 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Can't access D:, E:, F: after install of OS/2 2.0
Ref: Append at 17:29:35 on 92/08/18 GMT (by TRUMBLE at AUSVM1)

You might want to try 2.0 CHKDSK /F   on each of those drives.  (CHKDSK /F:3 if
they are HPFS).

Since you are booting from C, you should be able to do the chkdsk on D, E, and
F right from the C:] OS/2 command prompt.

For future reference, if you ever need to chkdsk C, you have to boot the
install diskette, feed in diskette 1, "ESC" out of the install program,
and then run CHKDSK from A: ... I believe it is found on diskette 2.

For these rescue missions, I set up 3 diskettes,  two to use to boot OS/2
and one containing useful things like chkdsk, backup, restore, fdisk,
and the T2.exe editor downloaded from this BBS.  I also have a version with
the Novell requester.  Another handy utility to have is the REXX program
posted in one of the conferences here that will rebuild selected desktop
objects by reading the .RC source file for OS2.INI

Good luck

George Clark, Norton Company

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 02:07:38 on 92/08/19 GMT (by IL22993 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Can't access D:, E:, F: after install of OS/2 2.0
Ref: Append at 17:29:35 on 92/08/18 GMT (by TRUMBLE at AUSVM1)

???  FDISK says the partitions are not formatted ???

I would use the OS/2 backup command on the smallest partition before I tried
CHKDISK from 2.0 on it.  (I expect that means putting 1.3 back up.)

I have not seen FDISK report this before, (although I have not looked for it).
I hope you don't have too much to loose on those partitions.

To avoid the re-install of 1.3, you might be able to boot the 1.3 install
diskettes, put 1.3 backup and any required .MSG files into a temporary
directory on C, and then run the backup from there to avoid another re-install
of OS/2.  I'm not sure what files would be required.

Good luck.

George Clark, Norton Company

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 02:13:47 on 92/08/19 GMT (by IL22993 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Can't access D:, E:, F: after install of OS/2 2.0
Ref: Append at 17:29:35 on 92/08/18 GMT (by TRUMBLE at AUSVM1)

One more thought...

Are D, E, and F on the same physical drive as C?  If not, maybe you need the
ST506 fix that can be downloaded from this BBS.  The GA code has some problems
with clone systems running older MFM and RLL drives if I recall correctly.

If you don't have file transfer from here, I believe the fixes are also
available from the IBM NSC BBS in Atlanta.  It's a toll call, but the file
transfer using ZMODEM is MUCH faster.

George Clark, Norton Company

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 10:56:43 on 92/08/19 GMT (by LB7DAPL at LGEVM1)
Subject: SYQUEST on ST01/02 not found whith 2 MFM ST506

I just succeeded in installing OS2 V 2.0 whith 2 MFM disk on a 386
clone with AMI BIOS.

 1) disable second hard disk in CMOS
 2) install OK following ST506 FIX
 3) copy IBMINT13.I13 to IBM1S506.ADD
 4) boot OK with my 2 disks

But now, how to convince the system to recognize my SYQUEST 44meg
removable disk on a ST01 SCSI card?
Under DOS it works great with DEVICE=SYQ55.SYS in CONFIG.SYS.

What are the magic incantation to operate with V2.0 (French)

Thanks,

DAUBY Alain, La Gaude laboratory (France)

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 13:17:59 on 92/08/19 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE81)
Subject: SYQUEST on ST01/02 not found whith 2 MFM ST506
Ref: Append at 10:56:43 on 92/08/19 GMT (by LB7DAPL at LGEVM1)

From many posts that I have seen on the NSC BBS I think you may have to replace
that ST01 card.  At least this is what has been suggested to several folks by
Seagate.  Don't believe it has any thing to do with your install problems.
This is a problem I am really sorry to see folks still having.  I opened an
APAR on this 2 days after the IBM1S506 fix was made available, and then
discovered the work around by just playing with it for a day or 2.  When I
reported this to the Support Center their response was to just close my APAR,
nothing was ever done to fix the problem.  Since then if I received a $1 for
each person that I have given the work around to, since the support center
apparently doen't know about it, I would have enough money to take a nice
vacation.

Jack Hiatt  Marc Life  Atlanta Ga.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 14:10:43 on 92/08/19 GMT (by LB7DAPL at LGEVM1)
Subject: SYQUEST on ST01/02 not found whith 2 MFM ST506
Ref: Append at 10:56:43 on 92/08/19 GMT (by LB7DAPL at LGEVM1)
     Append at 13:17:59 on 92/08/19 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE81)

Jack,
Is your work around valid to have 2 MFM's? Or is it to see the SYQUEST
(even as a disquette). If the later, please explain|

Thanks,

Alain DAUBY, La Gaude France

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 15:30:31 on 92/08/19 GMT (by IL26761 at OS2CUST)
Subject: SYQUEST on ST01/02 not found whith 2 MFM ST506
Ref: Append at 14:10:43 on 92/08/19 GMT (by LB7DAPL at LGEVM1)

The work around was for the multiple MFM drives.  Will check the ST01 info on
NSC BBS this evening and try to give you an update if you don't have access to
that.

Jack Hiatt   MARC-Life   Atlanta Ga.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 16:11:52 on 92/08/19 GMT (by IL03484 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Installation from Network

In reference to Paul Brightly of IBM Boca Raton, FL.,'s artical in Personal Sys
tems magazine dated April 1992 titled UNATTENDED INSTALLATION OF OS/2 2.0, some
 help would be appreciated.

I copied all 20 disketts into different sub-directories on our Novell 3.11 netw
ork as he recommended.  Now I want to do the network unattended install, but am
 at a loss as to how to do it.  His artical was a little sketchy for me, and wa
s wondering if someone can give me a little more help, or step by step instruct
ions on how to proceed.

                                   Any help would be appreciated....

Tom Hobbs Bituminous Insurance Co.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 20:02:42 on 92/08/19 GMT (by ERWIN at RHQVM16)
Subject: Error installing OS/2

   I kept getting this error trying to install OS/2 2.0 on 8580-071:
"The system detected an internal processing error at location # 0F00:
4319 -- 0002:4319.
60002, 5001

038600D1
internal revision 6.307, 92/03/01"

   Can anybody explain what's wrong?  I test the computer using the
reference diskette and everything is ok.

   Thanks for any help.

   Erwin Hadiono
   HCP, White Plains

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 20:12:19 on 92/08/19 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1)
Subject: Error installing OS/2
Ref:     Append at 20:02:42 on 92/08/19 GMT (by ERWIN at RHQVM16)

From the address, I think this usually means you have a memory failure.
Since you are on a PS/2, we should have save the failing information in
CMOS, and a CE with a special utility on the reference diskette can get
the failing memory SIMM identified.

Irv Spalten  BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 15:33:32 on 92/08/20 GMT (by GREGOIRE at TOROLAB5)
..... OS2INST CFORUM modified at 23:17:39 on 92/09/19 GMT (by GREGOIRE at TOROLAB5)
Subject: It just won't work

After two days of trying to install 2.0 I'm nowhere.
Are there any tips for the following.
IBM PS/2 mod 80
320 Meg Hard Drive
             installed boot manager (D: as default)
partition C: primary  50 meg
          D: logical  100 meg (set installable) HPFS
          E: logical  remaining (170 meg)

Installed OS/2 according to directions.
After initial boot, tutorial is displayed.
After I exit tutorial hard drive spins forever, desktop never appears.
Warm or cold boot has no effect.
Reinstalled 5 times, no progress.

(***********************************)

D. Gregoire Belliveau

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 16:43:54 on 92/08/20 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1)
Subject: It just won't work
Ref:     Append at 15:33:32 on 92/08/20 GMT (by GREGOIRE at TOROLAB5)

I've got the same system, no problems. A few questions though. How much
memory do you have? What type of display? Was it a CLEAN install or did
you go over existing stuff in the D:? Did you reformat and every install?
How long did you wait before you gave up on the system coming up and
either powered off or CAD'ed?

Irv Spalten  BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 19:31:08 on 92/08/20 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST)
Subject: It just won't work
Ref: Append at 16:43:54 on 92/08/20 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1)

The problem you are having has happened to others.  There are problems
in the current version of OS/2 2.0 that can make the system stall or
appear to never load.
Very important, How much memory do you have? I'll assume it is at least
4 megs.  The real question is who's memory adapter is installed.  There have
been problems with third party vendor memory boards.  This is not to say the
boards are defective, just that OS/2 has problems with them.  Is your
machine a PS/2 80-041?

The system should display the desktop in about 8 minutes after the tutorial
appears.  (MAX 10).  If the partition is about 60 megs and HPFS it would
appear in about 4 minutes.  There is a known bug in OS/2 and HPFS with large
partitions greater than 100 megs.

Try this.  Either install the system as FAT or using the Reference disk do
a low level format.  By the way is that a 320 meg SCSI drive?

Don't give up on OS/2, I know for a fact that they are correcting many of
these problems as we speak.  Let me know how you are doing?

OS/2 2.0 GA Beta version 1

Jerry Sitbon [phone]

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 20:22:58 on 92/08/20 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Installation from Network
Ref: Append at 16:11:52 on 92/08/19 GMT (by IL03484 at OS2CUST)

I highly recomend getting the GG24-3780 red book from IBM.  You can get it with
 the PUBORDER command on IBMLink, or your SE should be able to get it for you,
or there is also some 1-800 number one can also call, but I can't remember what
 it is.

Mike Long - CARD Iowa State University - PC/LAN Analyst

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 21:07:57 on 92/08/20 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST)
Subject: HP Laser Jet II P
Ref: Append at 20:34:47 on 92/08/13 GMT (by DSOUZA at DALVM41B)

What kind of hardware do you have?  Do you mean that you can print using Word
Perfect while your computer is booted up with OS/2, or when it is booted up wit
h real DOS?
If OS/2 command prompt will not print at all, but DOS apps under OS/2 do print,
I don't know what could be causing that?
If OS/2 and DOS apps under OS/2 do not print, but your machine prints o.k when
booted to DOS, that can be one of several things.
1. Your cable could not have all 25 pins wired from end to end.  Some cheap cab
les work with DOS but will not work with OS/2.
2. Do you have a soundblaster card? If so, make sure it is not at IRQ7.  Only
LPT1 must be at IRQ7.
3. Some parallel cards were not designed to properly implement IRQ7.  They will

work fine with DOSbecause DOS does not use IRQ's to do its printing.  OS/2 doe
s use these interuptsto send a print job to the printer so it must function pr
operly.  Try another brand of parallel card.
4. If you have multiple parallel cards, try taking them all out except for LPT1
.  LPT2 must be at IRQ5, I am told, for it to work properly.

Above all good luck,

Mike Long - CARD Iowa State University - PC/LAN Analyst

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 18:07:00 on 92/08/21 GMT (by PSC30 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Installation from Network

Ref: Append at 20:22:58 on 92/08/20 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2Cust)

You ABSOLUTELY need the GG24-3780 book.  However, you must accept that a lot
of it IS WRONG (especially the part about FDISKing!!)

But we have been doing "unattended" (or at least get it started and then walk
away) installs for several months with success.  We now have TokenRing,
EtherNet, and AT-bus versions with and without CommMgr co-existence
working, so it can be done.
You just kinda have to expect to do it all by yourself without much help
anywhere...
But leave your phone number on the BB and I'll call you if I get a change...

Graham YArbrough

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 18:17:34 on 92/08/21 GMT (by PSC30 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Multiple mice

Can I install multiple "pointing devices" with 2.0?  In particular, I want
to attach a graphical drawing pad for use by graphic artists in addition to
the regular mouse.
I know the system supports both a mouse and "touch screen" type device, so
it should sorta be the same thing!!
I have an ASKQ answer which implies that it can be done if I have the
device driver for the graphics pad (which I do -- I wrote it!!) but it does
not say HOW. It only says I need to include a DEVICE= statement in
CONFIG.SYS.
If I treat the thing as a mouse, it will "override" the standard mouse (I
tried it and that's what happened). There must be something other than
using the "installing serial mouse" procedure documented in the on-line
command reference.
If I just install it without "attaching" it to MOUSE.SYS, it doesn't
report through the mouse interface.

Any suggestions?  Am I in the right forum??

Graham Yarbrough

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 13:46:16 on 92/08/24 GMT (by GREGOIRE at TOROLAB5)
Subject: It finally worked (formerly; It just won't work)
Ref:     Append at 15:33:32 on 92/08/20 GMT (by GREGOIRE at TOROLAB5)

To answer some questions, the machine has 16 megs and all IBM stuff.

I got a new set of diskettes, reformatted the drive and it all
worked OK. Must be a bad file in the first set of diskettes I used.

D. Gregoire Belliveau

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 13:50:45 on 92/08/25 GMT (by GREGOIRE at TOROLAB5)
Subject: Missing Icons

Has anyone seen the icons that are suppose to be in my Comm Mgr Icon View
window? They were there after I installed extended services, but not
after I rebooted the next morning. I can still start Comm Mgr from
the OS/2 command line. If you have seen them please send them back home.
Life without then is a little annoying.

D. Gregoire Belliveau

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 14:55:36 on 92/08/25 GMT (by IL39800 at OS2CUST)
Subject: RamQuest Extra 16/32 problems

I remember reading about a similar problem on the BBS some time ago.  We have
Orchid Ramquest Extra 16/32 cards installed in most of our PS/2 70's and 55's.
With the cards installed, we have been unable to successfully install OS/2 2.0
The installation attempt results in a Trap 000D after about disk 3.  Has any-
one had the same problem and been able to resolve it?

Chris Silsby, Michigan Dept. of Treasury

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 15:57:45 on 92/08/25 GMT (by AMRT04A at OS2CUST)
Subject: OS/2 2.0 clients attachd- 1.3 Server at OS/2 1.3.02 WR050

  OS/2 2.0 clients attachd- 1.3 Server at OS/2 1.3.02 WR050

This question applies to installing OS/2 2.0 Extended Edition
on PS/2 Model 70's with only 8 Meg of memory,
60 Meg Drive, and running at 16 mhz.  These are attached to an OS/2 1.3
WR05050 model 90 File Server.  1 Brother Laser with HPCL and PSCRIPT
modes is attached to LPT1.  1 Brother Dot Matrix printer is attached to
COM1 on the server.  We are not able to upgrade the server at this time
but need to bring up some OS/2 2.0 workstations now ASAP.

If you are having install problems now, have experienced this type of install
before, or know how a 2.0 install should be installed with a 1.3 server and
resources please Read the two questions below in the OS2PRINT forum.

For Details please see the OS2PRINT forum question
  OS/2 2.0 client printing - 1.3 Server and
  Using printer template Fore 1.3 questions from 92/08/25 .

Ken O. (American Airlines, Tulsa, Ok.)

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 17:18:58 on 92/08/25 GMT (by NAAO3IY at OS2CUST)
Subject: Missing Icons
Ref: Append at 13:50:45 on 92/08/25 GMT (by GREGOIRE at TOROLAB5)

Those icons are wobbly.  One way to get them back is to completely
delete the Communications Manager folder and then use REINST to
reinstall CM.  You don't actually have to _do_ anything with REINST --
just run it and say you're reinstalling CM, but then just back out
again.  This always works for me.

John Kennedy -- Hoechst Celanese, Bridgewater, NJ

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 17:19:29 on 92/08/25 GMT (by IL20699 at OS2CUST)
Subject: RamQuest Extra 16/32 problems
Ref: Append at 14:55:36 on 92/08/25 GMT (by IL39800 at OS2CUST)

We found this problem to be connected with the type of SIMMS used.
For example, if you are using the type of SIMMS with three chips on it,
we found it not to work. It appears that os/2 2.0 is very sensative to the
type of memory it has.

Ed Ishimoto
City & County of Honolulu

Ed Ishimoto

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 17:55:03 on 92/08/25 GMT (by IL20699 at OS2CUST)
Subject: icon active after terminating

I selected a "data file" icon from the template folder. Then I set it up for
a wordperfect 5.1 document. After selecting this icon and processing my wordper
fect document, I terminate the wordperfect and the session ends. However, the
"data file" icon is still hassed and windows list does not show it listed. I
think this is a bug. Any Ideas.....?

Ed Ishimoto, City & County of Honolulu

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 19:21:57 on 92/08/26 GMT (by 19HCONF1 at RALVM17)
Subject: RamQuest Extra 16/32 problems
Ref:     Append at 14:55:36 on 92/08/25 GMT (by IL39800 at OS2CUST)

I have a RamQuest Extra 16/32 installed in my PS/2 55SX and installed
OS/2 with no problem whatsoever.

Steven M. Geisler, SER Tools Delivery and Conferencing Support, Charlotte

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 16:10:59 on 92/08/28 GMT (by IL10790 at OS2CUST)
Subject: BLANK DESKTOP ON GATEWAY 486/33

We have installed OS/2 2.0 on several GateWay 2000 486/33 machines some are ISA
bus and some are EISA both are giving me the same problem.   I installed O2/2 o
nto an existing Fat partitioned disk that had load of windows stuff on it.  The
 install ran fine and even showed the migration of all the existing stuff.  So
the install completes and the system reboots and starts up.  It gives me the OS
/2 logo screens and all the clears the screen and I get the white graphics scre
en with my mouse pointer ( it's moveable ) and then the screen refreshes and al
l I have is a blank OS/2 Desktop.  I can move my mouse and click on both button
s and pull up a window showing only the ICON VIEW as running.  It seems fully f
unctional at that point but no ICONS in the DESKTOP.  I can then go find the Mi
grate Prog and Re-Migrate and it will find the Existing Windows stuff and then
put them in ............ but hey I dont want to reinstall a desktop manually fo
r 40 machines.  I have even played with the alt-f1 and had it restore the fact
INI files but same thing.  I have even pulled the INI files of of a machine tha
t works fine but no go..    (Guess...) It seems link it cant find the Desktop f
iles so it just load the shell but there is nothing there........

Help Help Me Rhonda

Ric Lumbard - Amana I.S.

RLBARD

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 19:30:41 on 92/08/28 GMT (by XXHYDR10 at TORVMCOP)
Subject: DOS BANYAN VINES REQUESTOR
Our shop doesn't have production Requestor for OS/2 2.0 so I've been
trying to use the DOS requestor by booting off a DOS diskette from
the command prompts folder.  When I start the requestor I got the message
that the ROM/RAM addresses didn't match with the requestor's configuratio
file.  I could do this with the LA code (December Version) so I'm
wondering what has changed in the GA code.
.. Thoughts,
.. Suggestions?

Jim Schellenberg, [phone]    FAX [phone]
Manitoba Hydro
Database Administrator

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 19:53:38 on 92/08/28 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC)
Subject: BLANK DESKTOP ON GATEWAY 486/33
Ref:     Append at 16:10:59 on 92/08/28 GMT (by IL10790 at OS2CUST)

How long did you wait for the Desktop to finish initializing?  The
initial boot (first after installing) takes a *L O N G* time to
complete.  If you turn the machine off or CAD before the desktop icons
appear, you will have at best an incomplete desktop, and at worst a
blank one.  Try this (lifted shamlessly from the Command Reference):

Creating New INI Files

Note:  The following procedure assumes that you have the OS/2 2.0
  operating system installed on drive C of your system.  If you have
  installed OS/2 2.0 on another drive, you must use that drive instead of
  drive C to do the procedure.

1.Insert the Installation diskette in drive A; then, press and hold the
  Ctrl, Alt, and Del keys together to restart the system.

2.When the screen displaying the logo appears, remove the Installation
  diskette and insert diskette 1 into drive A.

3.Press Enter to continue.

4.Press Esc when the screen, "Welcome to OS/2," appears.

5.To change to drive C, enter:
     C:

6.To change to the OS2 subdirectory, enter:
     CD \OS2

7.To erase the current OS2.INI file, enter:
     ERASE OS2.INI

8.To erase the current OS2SYS.INI file, enter:
     ERASE OS2SYS.INI

9.To re-create a new user INI file, enter:
     MAKEINI OS2.INI INI.RC

10.To re-create a new system INI file, enter:
     MAKEINI OS2SYS.INI INISYS.RC

11.Remove diskette 1 from drive A.

12.Restart the system by pressing the Ctrl, Alt, and Del keys together.

And try not to be impatient waiting for the icons to appear (half an
hour should be more than enough time for a FAT system - HPFS could take
hours for large partitions). Subsequent boots will be much faster.

If you have already tried any of this, never mind...

Nathan Davis

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 21:57:07 on 92/08/28 GMT (by 1L67587 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Installation dies on Disk #2.

When installing OS/2 2.0 on a Model 95 with OS/2 1.3 with LS 2.0 Entry
installed, when disk 2 is entered, the system flashes a red screen and states
it cannot perform an fdisk in the log.  CSD Level of the Base is 5050.

Mark DeLorenzo

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 13:14:09 on 92/08/29 GMT (by ILLP033 at OS2CUST)
Subject: OS/2 1.3 to 2.0 upgrade

Has anyone done an upgrade from OS/2 1.3 to 2.0?  We are getting a strange
Workplace shell hashing pattern and losing our minimized icons.  Can't seem
to get rid of the hashing pattern except by putting the lighthouse in as the
background.  Also can't seem to get my minimized icons back.  Not that this
minimized icon thing makes any sense anyway.  I've made changes in the
Workplace shell setup, the OS/2 Systems Setup,System, and in various icons
themselves to get the minimized icons to show up.  These changes work on
other OS/2 2.0 systems that were a first install.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Bill Clark
Illinois Power

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 23:44:20 on 92/08/31 GMT (by TEC05 at OS2CUST)
Subject: istalling scsi support on a ps2 mod 70

I have a PS/2 mod 70 A21 with 16Mb of memory. I am attempting to add a IBM scsi
 card and a IBM CD ROM Drive. What do I need to do. I followed the instructios
that came with the drive but have gotten nothing but errors. The drive model nu
mber is 3510-001 and am using driver software version 1.01. I am running os2 2.
0 from the internal hard disk that comes with the unit. Some errors are that no
 scsi cards detected. OS/2 2.0 was already installed on the unit and am adding
the device??? HELP

Eric Decker

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 01:27:48 on 92/09/01 GMT (by SDETWEIL at DETVMIC4)
Subject: istalling scsi support on a ps2 mod 70
Ref:     Append at 23:44:20 on 92/08/31 GMT (by TEC05 at OS2CUST)

According the the  README file and some other info this is the device
driver list you need..

IFS=c:\os2\cdfs.ifs                <-- This is the CD-ROM file system
device=c:\os2\cdrom.sys            <-- This is the CD-ROM driver
basedev=ibm2scsi.add               <-- this is the SCSI driver
BASEDEV=c:\os2dasd.dmd             <-- This is the hard disk driver

If these drivers don't exist in /OS2 then do the following
(from \README)

1.  Locate Installation Diskette 8, which contains
    the file, DASDDRVS.

2.  Insert the diskette in drive A.

3.  Change the current directory to the root
    directory of the startup drive.

4.  Type:  UNPACK A:DASDDRVS \OS2 /N:xxxxxxxx.ADD

5.  Add the following line to the CONFIG.SYS file:
       BASEDEV=xxxxxxxx.ADD

6.  Restart the system.

Sam

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 14:26:24 on 92/09/01 GMT (by WZ00681 at OS2CUST)
Subject: OS/2 2.0 or boot manager hangs intermitently

I have been having an occasional problem when booting to v2.0 from the
boot manager.  The machine hangs somewhere between the time I select enter
for the OS/2 v2.0 partition and the time the OS/2 logo screen comes up.  The
logo screen does NOT appear.  The only solution is to reboot again. A ctl-alt-d
el is sufficient; no cold boot required.
The drive is configured:

partition
   1       OS/2 v1.3      FAT  100MB
   2       OS/2 v2.0      FAT  200MB
   3       none           FAT  200MB
   4       boot mmgr      FAT  1MB
The machine is a Compaq 486/33 with 16MB RAM.

There doesn't seem to be any harmful effects from this; it is simply an
inconvenience.  I come in and turn on my machines in the morning and then
go for a cup of coffee.  Sometines I come back and have to boot again.
Thanks

Shane Petty  - Novell,Inc.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 19:03:46 on 92/09/01 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST)
Subject: ES Custom Build

On trying the ES Custom Build for the first time, I noticed the
Lan adapter option was not available (was NOT on the menu). If a known
bug, is there a quickfix or workaround??

(The workstation DID have a token ring card in it at the time I initiated
the custom build - FYI)

Dan Lundy          Time Customer Service, Inc.                      Tampa, Fl

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 20:08:28 on 92/09/01 GMT (by CYCLOPS at AUSVM2)
Subject: ES Custom Build
Ref:     Append at 19:03:46 on 92/09/01 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST)

If the configuration file you selected has LAN configured then you
will get the "LAN option."

There is no way to get the LAN support without configuring it before
doing the Custom Build.

Chip McGuill

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 15:31:20 on 92/09/02 GMT (by XXHYDR10 at TORVMCOP)
Subject: DOS BANYAN VINES REQUESTOR
Ref:     Append at 19:30:41 on 92/08/28 GMT (by XXHYDR10 at TORVMCOP)

Further to previous message, I removed extended services
and I can now get the DOS BANYAN VINES REQUESTOR to work.
Any ideas?

Jim Schellenberg, [phone]    FAX [phone]
Manitoba Hydro
Database Administrator

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 18:00:06 on 92/09/02 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST)
Subject: ES Custom Build
Ref: Append at 20:08:28 on 92/09/01 GMT (by CYCLOPS at AUSVM2)

Chip,
   Hmmmm. I had just installed ES on the machine (advanced install) and
selected LAN driver/protocol. I verified it was on the machine.

I then used that machine to run Custom Build. I had not "configured" the
lan option on the machine - it was merely installed. Are you saying I had
to configure the LAN options on that machine before I could create a
custom build that offers Lan Option? Installing Lan/protocol on the base
machine was not sufficient?

Thanks in advance,

Dan Lundy          Time Customer Service, Inc.                      Tampa, Fl

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 18:40:12 on 92/09/02 GMT (by AIX015 at AUSVM8)
Subject: Problem during OS/2 2.0 Installation

  I am trying to install OS/2 2.0 Standard Edition on my Dell 310.
  I have the upgrade where it looks for OS/2 1.3 or DOS.  DOS 5.0
  is on the 'C' drive in the '\DOS' directory as it should be.
.s
  I boot from the 'A' drive as instructed in the manual with the
  OS/2 installation disk.  At the IBM screen, I insert the OS/2 2.0
  Diskette #1 as instructed at the screen prompt.  The disk drive
  whirls for about 15 seconds with disk 1 and then hangs.  On the
  bottom center of the screen is a message in white that says,
  "Operating System/2 2.0".  Nothing happens after this point.
  It just sits there, staring back at me.
.s
  Any help is greatly appreciated.
  Thanks for reading and responding.
       -Ross.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 19:02:36 on 92/09/02 GMT (by CYCLOPS at AUSVM2)
Subject: ES Custom Build
Ref:     Append at 18:00:06 on 92/09/02 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST)

No, Custom Build/Custom Install assumes that everything you want is
configured.

In your case if you want your customers to have LAN support, then you
need to create a configuration file that has LAN configured.  You
do NOT have the option of picking LAN support from additional features
like you did during "regular" install.

Chip McGuill

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 20:37:06 on 92/09/02 GMT (by G3035 at OS2CUST)
Subject: DOS BANYAN VINES REQUESTOR
Ref: Append at 15:31:20 on 92/09/02 GMT (by XXHYDR10 at TORVMCOP)

In your previous message, you mentioned that you were able to use the DOS VINES
requestor with the LA code.  I assume that you did not have ES installed at th
at time.

The current release of the network drivers do not provide a virtual 802.2 layer
to the DOS sessions.  Therefore, when the VINES software tries to open the
adapter, it finds that it is already being used by ES and reports the error
you see.

I only know of two options at this time: 1. Shutdown ES and use RESTOKN to
close the adapter before using the DOS VINES files, or 2. Contact your VINES
reseller to take part in the Banyan VINES OS/2 2.0 LA program.  The drivers
available through this program do support OS/2 2.0.

Andy Miller, GPU Service Corporation

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 22:37:44 on 92/09/02 GMT (by BCHI040 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Installing a PS/2 1.2Mb external drive 4869

What are the config.sys settings to install an external IBM 4869 1.2 floppy dri
ve.

Jerry Hittle, Hawaii Medical Service Ass'n  P.O. Box 860 Hon Hi 96808

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 13:08:12 on 92/09/03 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Problem during OS/2 2.0 Installation
Ref: Append at 18:40:12 on 92/09/02 GMT (by AIX015 at AUSVM8)

Ross,

 I don't know what the problem really is. However, when I encountered the
same problem on various disks (notably #9) I found a DISKCOPY of the
problem diskette often got me past the problem point.

Luck!

Dan Lundy          Time Customer Service, Inc.                      Tampa, Fl

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 13:15:26 on 92/09/03 GMT (by ECOL007 at OS2CUST)
..... OS2INST CFORUM modified at 19:37:05 on 92/09/29 GMT (by ECOL007 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Dual monitor support, OS/2 2.0
This APPEND was deleted at 15:37:04 on 09/29/92 EST.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 20:49:38 on 92/09/03 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST)
Subject: ES Custom Build
Ref: Append at 19:02:36 on 92/09/02 GMT (by CYCLOPS at AUSVM2)

Thanks!

Not the answer I was hoping for, but at least NOW I am informed.

Dan Lundy          Time Customer Service, Inc.                      Tampa, Fl

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 00:15:48 on 92/09/04 GMT (by HARRYZ at STLVM1)
Subject: COUNTRY.SYS not found
Ref:     None

We found another reason for the COUNTRY.SYS NOT FOUND message: a very
old 386 Memory Expansion Option card.  The part number on this card is
34F3053.  When we swapped it with a new one, OS/2 2.0 successfully
booted.  Since this took several days and several people to come up with,
I thought I'd pass it along...

Harry Zisko

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 04:21:30 on 92/09/06 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP)
Subject: istalling scsi support on a ps2 mod 70
Ref:     Append at 23:44:20 on 92/08/31 GMT (by TEC05 at OS2CUST)

First boot your machine using the "Reference Disk" backup that
you created. Change the information, so that it knows the SCSI
card has been installed. Then do the same, follow the instructions
for installing the CDROM drive. Then boot with OS2 and follow
the instructions for adding the proper files using "selective
install" in OS2.

Elliott M. Avedon
University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1
[phone] x2204

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 04:27:56 on 92/09/06 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP)
Subject: Installing a PS/2 1.2Mb external drive 4869
Ref:     Append at 22:37:44 on 92/09/02 GMT (by BCHI040 at OS2CUST)

You need to use the device driver that came with the external
drive. OS2 does not include that driver. I think it is something
like ext5dd.sys. Just add the statement in your config file:
DEVICE=EXT5DD.SYS (but make sure you actually put the sys file on
your fixed disk).

Elliott M. Avedon
University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1
[phone] x2204

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 13:22:50 on 92/09/06 GMT (by SDETWEIL at DETVMIC4)
Subject: Installing a PS/2 1.2Mb external drive 4869
Ref:     Append at 04:27:56 on 92/09/06 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP)

The driver comes on the diskette that came with the drive..

Sam

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 11:11:11 on 92/09/08 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE81)
Subject: Drives Unseen.

Has anyone run into the situation where OS/2 refuses to see logical drives
other than the primary one on a second physical drive?

Jack Hiatt  Marc Life  Atlanta Ga.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 23:37:30 on 92/09/08 GMT (by KITDOVE at STLVM6)
Subject: IBM Proprinter 24P

It seems there is no device selection in OS/2 V2 install process
that specifically names the IBM Proprinter 24P.  What's the correct
device for the IBM Proprinter 24P?

Kit Dove

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 12:22:37 on 92/09/09 GMT (by XXHYDR10 at TORVMCOP)
Subject: Dual monitor support, OS/2 2.0
Ref:     Append at 13:15:26 on 92/09/03 GMT (by ECOL007 at OS2CUST)

No experience with 2.0 ... but we have a COMPAQ LTE/20 running OS/2 1.3
with an expansion unit.  The expansion unit supports a token ring card
hard card, and colour monitor with external keyboard.  I have several
menu items to switch configs for office and away but my support for the
monitor remains the same with no problem  (ie. colour VGA support)

Jim Schellenberg, [phone]    FAX [phone]
Manitoba Hydro
Database Administrator

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 12:08:29 on 92/09/10 GMT (by XXHYDR10 at TORVMCOP)
Subject: DOS BANYAN VINES REQUESTOR
Ref:     Append at 20:37:06 on 92/09/02 GMT (by G3035 at OS2CUST)

Do you use Vines with OS/2 2.0?  Is the code from the LA program
installed only on the OS/2 2.0 client or is a patch required on the
Vines server?

I removed ES and the DOS Banyan vines requestor has access to the
token ring card.  Thanks.

What does your company name mean?

Jim Schellenberg, [phone]    FAX [phone]
Manitoba Hydro
Database Administrator

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 14:29:40 on 92/09/10 GMT (by GRESSEX at ATLVMIC1)
Subject: DOS BANYAN VINES REQUESTOR
Ref:     Append at 12:08:29 on 92/09/10 GMT (by XXHYDR10 at TORVMCOP)

Yes the Vines LA code works with OS/2 2.0.  And yes there is a peice
for both the client and a patch for the server.  You can patch either
a Vines 4.11 or 5.00 server.  Also, look for a new release of the
Vines LA code in a couple of weeks.  It should give some needed
preformance gains.

Rey Essex

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 20:46:17 on 92/09/11 GMT (by DBXB533 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Remote Installation - Error Message

I have set up one of our servers, IBM MODEL 95 OLF, to run RIPL successfully.
I have now tried to install OS/2 2.0 over the LAN.  I have followed the
instructions in the Redbook "Remote Installation and Maintenance" but I
am receiving the following error message on the machine that is being loaded.

     The return code from the open on DISK.NUM was: 110.

   The format of this file is (only between the '|'):
   |XXX XXX XXX XXX |
     A   A   A   A
     |   |   |   +-- number of 3.5" diskettes to be installed under PM
     |   |   +-- number of 5.25" diskettes to be installed under PM
     |   +-- number of 3.5" diskettes to be installed under full-screen
     +-- number of 5.25" diskettes to be installed under full-screen

   16 characters where the last character is a trailing blank

   You may press "Enter" to bring up a command prompt

The above information continues to display on the machine until I finally
turn it off.  Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Frank Valdivieso

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 02:34:06 on 92/09/15 GMT (by AWAITE at SYDVM1)
Subject: Remote Installation - Error Message
Ref:     Append at 20:46:17 on 92/09/11 GMT (by DBXB533 at OS2CUST)

Frank,
I get that message whenever the install program can't find the
subdirs that contain the diskette images.
Either your drive redirection isn't there or the SET SOURCEPATH in the
CONFIG.SYS of your diskette isn't right.
have a look at this and see how you go.

Alan Waite * OS/2, LAN Support * Brisbane, Australia.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 17:15:36 on 92/09/15 GMT (by NALLB4I at OS2CUST)
Subject: Image Adapter/A & OS/2 2.0

I received v 1.02 device drivers for OS/2 with the card. The read.me file
mentions OS/2 1.2 & 1.3 only. I tried installing anyway. I received a message
about back leveling a module and also a message about not being able to copy
c:\os2\dll\display.old.  Installation failed.  Is there a newer version of the
IA/A drivers?? or how do I make it work. I have an 8580-A31 with an 8508
monitor.

Walt Slazyk

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 18:32:15 on 92/09/15 GMT (by G3035 at OS2CUST)
Subject: DOS BANYAN VINES REQUESTOR
Ref: Append at 12:08:29 on 92/09/10 GMT (by XXHYDR10 at TORVMCOP)

I do use the OS/2 2.0 Vines drivers (and Communication Manager) and
it works well.  As Rey mentions in another message the current
release is 1.0 of a Limited Availability (LA) program.  That is why
you need to contact your reseller for details on participating.  I
hear that General Availability is expected this fall.

GPU stands for General Public Utilities.  GPU Corporation is a
holding company that owns three utilities (JCP&L, PA Electric, and
Met. Edison), and some other mixed companies including GPU Service
Corporation.

Good luck!

Andy Miller, GPU Service Corporation

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 21:02:41 on 92/09/16 GMT (by SUN0012 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Unable to select installable on a new logical partition.

I have a PS/2 Model 95 with two 320MB disks.  I have been running with the
following partitioning:

Disk 1:  C:  DOS 5.0 TRN           Disk 2:  D:  DOS 5.0 ETH
         C:  OS/2 1.3 TRN                   D:  OS/2 1.3 ETH
         E:  OS/2 2.0 TRN                   G:  OS/2 2.0 ETH
         F:  Data                           H:  Data

In order to try the beta LR 3.0 I attempted to split the H:
partition into:

                                            H:  Data
                                            I:  LR 3.0

However when I tried this I was not able to set I: to installable
nor startable.  I also attempted to delete G: and H: and redo them
with:

                                             G:  LR 3.0
                                             H:  Data

I had the same problem with this attempt.  I have left the
first disk as the startup disk.  I also have the boot manager
as a first partion on each disk.  I browsed the installation
guide and couldn't figure out what rules I was breaking,  Any
ideas?

Jim Snively, Sun Companmy, Inc

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 23:26:45 on 92/09/17 GMT (by N$H52HAL at RALVM11)
Subject: Unable to select installable on a new logical partition.
Ref:     Append at 21:02:41 on 92/09/16 GMT (by SUN0012 at OS2CUST)

I had a problem like this once.

I found that, if you boot off disk #0 and #1 like you are going to install
OS/2 base services, and choose to "install on another drive", the program
will run FDISK and let you put it as INSTALLABLE or BOOTABLE.

There must be some undocumented parameters for FDISK that the OS/2
install program knows about.

Hal

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 15:39:22 on 92/09/18 GMT (by FVXB533 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Dialog Driven Remote Installation

@
Has anyone been able to perform a dialog-driven remote installation
of OS/2 2.0over the LAN.  I have gotten the remote install to work
with a response file but have not been successful with the dialog
driven.  I added the following statements to the CONFIGRI.20 file for
the machine I was trying to perform to install on:

              PROTSHELL=Z:\OS2INST\disk_1\SYSINST1.EXE
              SET OS2_SHELL=Z:\OS2INST\disk_1\SYSINST2.EXE Z:\

I am able to get the installation procedure to stop but it stops and
gives me and error message in the INSTALL.LOG file that follows:

                  INSTALL.LOG

     Installing Operating System/2.
     Model = F8
     Submodel = 0B
     ABIOS machine
     Bus Architecture: |-14236|
     POSIDì00┘ = |545c|
     POSIDì01┘ = |c884|
     POSIDì02┘ = |4e68|
     POSIDì03┘ = |27|
     POSIDì04┘ = |240a|
     POSIDì05┘ = |7ff6|
     POSIDì06┘ = |7ff6|
     POSIDì07┘ = |0|
     Disk Type: |0|
     Greater than 15MB primary partition exists.
     Copying files C:\CONFIG.BAK -> C:\CONFIG.008
     Copying files C:\CONFIG.SYS -> C:\CONFIG.BAK
     Copying files C:\AUTOEXEC.BAK -> C:\AUTOEXEC.007
     Copying files C:\AUTOEXEC.BAT -> C:\AUTOEXEC.BAK
     Making directory C:\OS2
     Making directory C:\OS2\DLL
     Making directory C:\OS2\HELP
     Making directory C:\OS2\INSTALL
     Making directory C:\OS2\SYSTEM
     Making directory C:\OS2\SYSTEM\TRACE
     Making directory C:\OS2\BOOK
     Making directory C:\OS2\MDOS
     Making directory C:\OS2\MDOS\WINOS2
     Making directory C:\OS2\MDOS\WINOS2\SYSTEM
     Making directory C:\OS2\BITMAP
     Making directory C:\OS2\APPS
     Making directory C:\OS2\APPS\DLL
     Making directory C:\OS2\HELP\GLOSS
     Making directory C:\OS2\HELP\TUTORIAL
     Making directory C:\OS2\DRIVERS
     Copying files Z:\OS2INST\Disk_2\UNPACK.EXE -> C:\OS2\UNPACK.EXE
     No Dual Boot installed.
     The system cannot open the
     device or file specified.

                        Open File Error

       An error occurred when System Installation tried to open
       a file.

Frank Valdivieso

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 16:06:57 on 92/09/18 GMT (by ACPAPRO at CHGVMIC1)
Subject: 50Mhz Processors
Customer is saying he is having problems installing OS2 2.0 on
50Mhz processors.  The installation is slow, bombs out, and generally
fails on all systems, Compaq, Dell, IBM 8595 etc...  Has anybody
installed successfully?   Anything you could add will help... Thanks
ACPAPRO @ CHGVMIC1

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 18:57:54 on 92/09/18 GMT (by HALLERMA at BCRVMPC1)
Subject: 50Mhz Processors
Ref:     Append at 16:06:57 on 92/09/18 GMT (by ACPAPRO at CHGVMIC1)

This is a known problem on some fast machines. If the machine has a
"Turbo" mode, try turning it off just during the Install process.

                                     Mel Hallerman

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 22:15:27 on 92/09/18 GMT (by IL05357 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Image Adapter/A & OS/2 2.0
Ref: Append at 17:15:36 on 92/09/15 GMT (by NALLB4I at OS2CUST)

There is a new version (I think it is 1.04) of the os/2 drivers for the
Image adapter/A.  We tried to order it through the support group, but
just got another 4 High density stiffies - the same ones with 1.02
device driver.  Our IBM SE got us the 1.04 version, which works great with
OS/2 2.0.

Good luck...           ...trm

Timothy R. Muggli, Sr Tech Analyst, Preferred Risk Group

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 19:23:27 on 92/09/19 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST)
Subject: 50Mhz Processors
Ref: Append at 16:06:57 on 92/09/18 GMT (by ACPAPRO at CHGVMIC1)

We have installed successfully on 50Mhz PS/2's (8590) with no problems.
These were the DX2 units.

Mike Long - CARD Iowa State University - PC/LAN Analyst

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 22:46:24 on 92/09/19 GMT (by HNDERSON at AUSVM8)
Subject: IBM partication in the CFROUM
Ref:  Various appends by IBMer

I strongly recommend that all IBMer take time to READ THE HEADERS of
THIS AND ALL OTHER CFORUMs.

This Cforum and all other Cforums are for Customers to ask questions
offer views, suggestion, etc. TO other customers, and to IBMers.

They are NOT TO CONTAIN references to IBM Internal USE Only products.

They are not to reference IBM INTERNAL minidisk that are not available
to customers.

They are not to contain reference to unannounced products.
 __   __      ___      __  __   _   _
|  |_|  |    /   \    |  \|  | | |./ / Hank Henderson HNDERSON at AUSVM8
|   _   |   / _~_ \  Sincerely |  . < Staff OSS to OS/2 BBS (TEAMOS2)
|__| |__|  /_/   \_\  |__|\__| |_| \_\ Tie:8-793-8647  Austin, Texas
                                       LNK1SM7 @ IBMLINK - OS/2 BBS

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 23:59:20 on 92/09/19 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST)
Subject: It just won't work
Ref: Append at 15:33:32 on 92/08/20 GMT (by GREGOIRE at TOROLAB5)

Gregoire,
I also have a PS/2 80 with a 320 meg hard drive.  From this I will
assume that your drive is most likely an SCSI drive with an SCSI controller
It should take about 8 to 15 mins. to create the desktop after the
Tutorial appears.  There have been problems with OS/2 installing on
various systems.  In order to better understand your problem and
hopefully a solution can you please give me some hardware information.
How much memory do you have and more important who's memory adapter are
you using?
What type of model 80 do you have 041, 071 ......?
What make of SCSI controller and drive.

I will also assume that the 100 meg partition is being used to install
OS/2.  This should be safe but you may want to try 80 megs.
IBM has made ECA changes to some of its controllers and some third
party boards have made changes to correct problems with their boards.

In addition IBM has made selective fixes to OS/2 so that it will work
with various machines that failed to operate correctly.

I'm not an IBMer but I had my share of problems which have been resolved
and now have OS/2 working.

PS:  Don't give up yet,  There will soon be a Service Pack (CSD)
released and this will correct many of the problems you are having.
OS/2 is a great operating system, it just takes a little time to work
out some of the problems.

Jerry Sitbon [phone]

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 03:58:47 on 92/09/20 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP)
..... OS2INST CFORUM modified at 04:04:16 on 92/09/20 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP)
Subject: It just won't work
Ref:     Append at 23:59:20 on 92/09/19 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST)

It's easy to say don't give up.
On my previous 8580-A31 (320M ) the install- reboot took 4-6 hours!
(I tried more than once.)
One guy (Jerry Sitborn(?)) went ahead and sent his 80 to Boca and
as I heard they fixed the problem lately.

Geza Szivos
NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583
NHO-32 801-7th Ave Calgary, Alberta, CANADA  T2P 2N6

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 05:12:14 on 92/09/20 GMT (by THRUMD at SYDVM1)
Subject: It just won't work
Ref:     Append at 15:33:32 on 92/08/20 GMT (by GREGOIRE at TOROLAB5)

>After I exit tutorial hard drive spins forever, desktop never appears.

How long is "forever"?  At this stage OS/2 is still running around
looking at the contents of your disks.  This process can take a while...

Dave

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 22:27:32 on 92/09/20 GMT (by IL90080 at OS2CUST)
Subject: installing dos5.0 on Model 56-059 preinstalled with OS/2

I HAVE PURCAHSED SEVERAL PS/2 MODEL 56-059 THAT CAME PRE-INSTALLED WITH OS/2 2.
0.  I NEED TO INSTALL DOS5.0 ON THE SYSTEM AND SET IT UP TO BOOT FROM WITH
THE BOOT MANAGER.  I HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY ALTER THE SYSTEM WITH
FDISK.  I TRIED TO CREATE A SECOND PRIMARY PARTITION AND ASSIGN IT TO DRIVE
C:, BUT WHEN I DO, I CAN'T FIND A WAY TO ASSIGN OS/2 TO ANOTHER DRIVE AND
DRIVE C: FOR DOS5.0.  I WOULD LIKE TO INSTALL DOS5.0 WITHOUT HAVING TO REFORMAT
AND RELOAD OS/2.
    ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED.

GREGG

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 23:15:31 on 92/09/20 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST)
Subject: It just won't work
Ref: Append at 03:58:47 on 92/09/20 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP)

I'm Jerry Sitbon, the person who had his system sent to Boca,
IBM has solved many of the problems.
There are now fixes for the stalling problem, long install problem,
failure of desktop to be created, lost printer object, various memory
conflicts and many others.
I know that they have been corrected because I have some of these fixes.
I have been told directly from the OS/2 Development team that these
fixes will be posted as soon as possible on the OS2BBS and that they
will be included in the Service Pack when it is released.  I know how
hard it in can be because I have gone through six months of system failures,
crashes, reinstallation and so much more.  In the first few months I
discovered over twenty bugs in OS/2.

Some of the fixes will need to be applied directly to the installation
diskettes.  I like the rest of you need the fixes as soon as possible.
Then I can use OS/2 as a control system to various application programs.

Again I say, Don't give up when we are all so close to a real solutuion!

Jerry Sitbon [phone]

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 12:05:46 on 92/09/21 GMT (by AWAITE at SYDVM1)
Subject: Dialog Driven Remote Installation
Ref:     Append at 15:39:22 on 92/09/18 GMT (by FVXB533 at OS2CUST)

Frank,
I've done a million of these and I assure you it works. You don't
mention what method you're using to get your Z: drive, but it looks
like the redirection is working from your INSTALL.LOG. The CONFIG.SYS
is a little strange, I always call SYSINST1 and SYSINST2 from the
diskette, not the redirected drive.
Have you read GG24-3780 OS/2 Remote Installation and Maintenance?
(plug, plug!) That redbook lays it out pretty well.

Alan Waite * OS/2, LAN Support * Brisbane, Australia.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 13:27:21 on 92/09/21 GMT (by FVXB533 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Dialog Driven Remote Installation
Ref: Append at 12:05:46 on 92/09/21 GMT (by AWAITE at SYDVM1)

I followed the instructions in the REDBOOK "Remote Installation and
Maintenance" and I have included my CONFIGRI.20 file below.
I am also booting the machine from a RIPLDISK because the token-ring cards
that I have don't have the RIPL EPROM.

REM
REM Special CONFIG.SYS file to support the remote installation of OS2 2.0
REM to a Remote IPLed workstation.
REM
REM NOTE!!: The name of the INSTALL.RSP file in the PROTSHELL statement
REM         must be updated to reflect the name of the install response
REM         file that will be used to install the workstation.  If the
REM         target drive is not C, update the IFS=Z:\OS2\HPFS.IFS
REM         statement to autocheck the target drive.

PROTSHELL=Z:\OS2INST\disk_1\SYSINST1.EXE
SET OS2_SHELL=Z:\OS2INST\disk_1\SYSINST2.EXE Z:\

DEVICE=Z:\IBMCOM\LANMSGDD.OS2 /I:Z:\IBMCOM
DEVICE=Z:\IBMCOM\PROTMAN.OS2  /I:Z:\IBMCOM
DEVICE=Z:\IBMCOM\MACS\IBMTOK.OS2
DEVICE=Z:\IBMCOM\PROTOCOL\NETBEUI.OS2

DEVICE=Z:\IBMLAN\NETPROG\RDRHELP.200
IFS=Z:\IBMLAN\NETPROG\NETWKSTA.200 /I:Z:\IBMLAN
IFS=Z:\OS2\HPFS.IFS  /CACHE:512 /CRECL:4 /AUTOCHECK:CD

SET USER_INI=Z:\OS2\OS2.INI
SET SYSTEM_INI=Z:\OS2\OS2SYS.INI
SET COMSPEC=Z:\OS2\CMD.EXE
SET SOURCEPATH=Z:\OS2INST

REM THE FOLLOWING LINE WAS SPLIT UP SO THAT IT WOULD FIT IN A 80
REM COLUMN DISPLAY.

LIBPATH=.;Z:\OS2\DLL;Z:\IBMLAN\NETLIB;Z:\MUGLIB\DLL;
        Z:\OS2INST\DISK_1;Z:\OS2INST\DISK_2;

SET PATH=Z:\OS2;Z:\OS2\SYSTEM;Z:\IBMLAN\NETPROG;Z:\MUGLIB;Z:\OS2\INSTALL;Z:\;
SET DPATH=Z:\OS2;Z:\OS2\SYSTEM;Z:\IBMLAN\NETPROG;Z:\IBMCOM;Z:\OS2\INSTALL;Z:\;
SET PROMPT=$iì$p┘
SET HELP=Z:\OS2\HELP;Z:\IBMLAN\HELP;
SET GLOSSARY=Z:\OS2\HELP\GLOSS;
SET BOOKSHELF=Z:\OS2\BOOK;Z:\IBMLAN\BOOK;
SET EPATH=Z:\OS2\APPS

BUFFERS=30
IOPL=YES
rem DISKCACHE=64,LW
MAXWAIT=3
MEMMAN=SWAP,PROTECT

REM Use the following statement for SWAPPER.DAT on server:
SWAPPATH=Z:\OS2\SYSTEM 4096 512
REM Use the following statement for SWAPPER.DAT on workstation.  Note that
REM this statement can not be used if the C drive will be formatted:
REM SWAPPATH=C:\ 1024 2048

BREAK=OFF
THREADS=512
PRINTMONBUFSIZE=134,134,134
COUNTRY=001,Z:\OS2\SYSTEM\COUNTRY.SYS
SET KEYS=ON
REM SET DELDIR=Z:\DELETE,512;

rem BASEDEV=PRINT01.SYS
BASEDEV=PRINT02.SYS
rem BASEDEV=IBM1FLPY.ADD
BASEDEV=IBM2FLPY.ADD
BASEDEV=IBM2ADSK.ADD
rem BASEDEV=IBM1S506.ADD
BASEDEV=IBM2SCSI.ADD /LED
BASEDEV=OS2SCSI.DMD
BASEDEV=OS2DASD.DMD

SET BOOKSHELF=Z:\OS2\BOOK;Z:\IBMLAN\BOOK;
SET EPATH=Z:\OS2\APPS
PROTECTONLY=YES
FCBS=16,8
DEVINFO=SCR,VGA,Z:\OS2\VIOTBL.DCP

REM Use the following 4 statements for workstations with XGA displays:
REM DEVICE=Z:\OS2\XGARING0.SYS
REM SET VIDEO_DEVICES=VIO_XGA
REM SET VIO_XGA=DEVICE(BVHVGA,BVHXGA)

REM Use the following 2 statements for workstations with VGA displays:
SET VIDEO_DEVICES=VIO_VGA
SET VIO_VGA=DEVICE(BVHVGA)

CODEPAGE=437,850
DEVINFO=KBD,US,Z:\OS2\KEYBOARD.DCP

Frank Valdivieso

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 13:50:20 on 92/09/21 GMT (by XXULTR04 at TORVMCOP)
Subject: Problem during OS/2 2.0 Installation
Ref:     Append at 18:40:12 on 92/09/02 GMT (by AIX015 at AUSVM8)

Check your harddrive if it's a core or Quantum you'll have problems
loading v2. These harddrves are cheap. Dell searches the world for
for the cheapest parts this allows them to stay cheap..Call Dell
they will be able to tell you. Dell also on request are suppose to
load v2 on new machines as requested...Hope this helps....

Ultramar Canada Inc.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 16:14:47 on 92/09/21 GMT (by XXWESB07 at TORVMCOP)
Subject: OS/2 1.3: XGA -> VGA

If you are running OS/2 1.3 with an 8515 monitor and XGA, how do you
go back to using just VGA? OS/2 2.0 selective reinstall seems to allow
you to accomplish this but I am unable to find information on how to
accomplish this under OS/2 1.3 (apart from starting from scratch).
The OS/2 support line was unable to answer this question.

Craig Knelsen, Information Systems Management Corp. (ISM)
One Research Drive, Regina, SK  Canada  S4S 7H1
[phone]     Fax: [phone]

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 11:57:37 on 92/09/22 GMT (by AMBC006 at MARTLINK)
Subject: Dialog Driven Remote Installation
Ref: Append at 15:39:22 on 92/09/18 GMT (by FVXB533 at OS2CUST)

I am getting the same results trying a dialog driven remote install.  The
response file works, but nothing I've been able to do has gotten me beyond
the same place.  So, you are not the only one with this problem....

Michael Suszko, Jr (A. M. Best Co., Oldwick NJ)

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 13:25:16 on 92/09/22 GMT (by PERSHNG at YKTVMH)
Subject: OS/2 1.3: XGA -> VGA
Ref:     Append at 16:14:47 on 92/09/21 GMT (by XXWESB07 at TORVMCOP)

There are instructions for this buried somewhere in the "installation"
manual, I believe.  You have to change the appropriate lines in your
CONFIG.SYS file, and then boot from the installation floppies and copy
the "correct" .DLL file to DISPLAY.DLL.  I'm believe that the normal 1.3
installtion process puts all three display .DLLs onto the hard disk, but
I'm not sure -- if not, you will have to go find it on the installation
floppies and unpack it onto your hard disk.

A fellow IBMer posted these lines from his CONFIG.SYS many, many moons
ago, and I put them into my (1.3) CONFIG.SYS, and I just happen to have
an old copy of this file laying around:

    REM ----------------------------------------------------------------
    REM When changing displays, be sure to fix DISPLAY.DLL too!
    REM --- Dual Displays ---
        DEVINFO=SCR,BGA,C:\OS2\VIOTBL.DCP
        SET VIDEO_DEVICES=VIO_IBMVGA,VIO_IBM8514A
        SET VIO_IBMVGA=DEVICE(BVHVGA)
        SET VIO_IBM8514A=DEVICE(BVH8514A)
    REM --- VGA Only ---
    REM DEVINFO=SCR,VGA,C:\OS2\VIOTBL.DCP
    REM SET VIDEO_DEVICES=VIO_IBMVGA
    REM SET VIO_IBMVGA=DEVICE(BVHVGA)
    REM --- 8514/A Only ---
    REM DEVINFO=SCR,BGA,C:\OS2\VIOTBL.DCP
    REM SET VIDEO_DEVICES=VIO_IBM8514A
    REM SET VIO_IBM8514A=DEVICE(BVHVGA,BVH8514A)
    REM ----------------------------------------------------------------

You un-comment the section that you want, and keep the other two sections
REM'd out -- but remember to copy the correct .DLL file to DISPLAY.DLL
before re-booting!

That's all that I have to offer -- I re-formatted and went to 2.0 the
day after it GA'd.

John A. Pershing Jr.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 22:47:06 on 92/09/22 GMT (by AWAITE at SYDVM1)
Subject: OS/2 1.3: XGA -> VGA
Ref:     Append at 13:25:16 on 92/09/22 GMT (by PERSHNG at YKTVMH)

Ah, you're using RIPL, I haven't tried that. The problem with a
dialog driven install is that an "intermediate" system is built
with a special CONFIG.SYS (NOT CONFIGRI.20 or anything like it) and
the machine reboots from that halfway through. I'm not sure that the
RIPL system can handle that. I haven't got my server at the moment,
so I can't play with it for you. One suggestion, try:
SET OS2_SHELL=Z:\OS2INST\disk_1\SYSINST2.EXE Z:\OS2INST
in your CONFIG file instead.

Alan Waite * OS/2, LAN Support * Brisbane, Australia.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 23:14:17 on 92/09/22 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)
Subject: 50Mhz Processors
Ref: Append at 16:06:57 on 92/09/18 GMT (by ACPAPRO at CHGVMIC1)

No problems here. I've run all sorts of configurations on an 8595
including 50DX2, 50DX, and 66DX2.  Can the customer successfully install on
anything slower than a 50?  Sounds too weird that even the 95 doesn't install.
Any chance of them using a bad set of diskettes?

Brent Allen - IBM LAN Systems Integration Services    Southlake, TX

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 21:18:03 on 92/09/23 GMT (by NOSWALD at TORECS)
Subject: Problem installing OS/2 2.0

I'm getting an interesting problem as follows:
2 PS/2 Model 70's, 120 MB disk, 8MB RAM
Running OS/2 1.3 (CSD 5050) + PMDIARY applets + Extended Edition.
When I install OS/2 2.0 GA over top of this I get the following
error when I try   to run the PMDIARY type applications in the
productivity folder:
PMDNOTE04 - Installation error
008100A - WIN100AE Resource not found.
None of the applets come up. I get the same installation error
for all applets. Can someone explain ? Please ?
I even reinstalled the applets but no dice. It seems
to me this error must be related to the fact that pmdiary
was installed on both machines and that somehow the settings
in the OS2 (ini) files didn't get updated properly. Is this an
installation bug ?
Please advise.
Regards, Joe Smeets
WESTECH Information Systems Inc.
Vancouver, BC, Canada [phone]

Append moved from OS2CAN   CFORUM   on OS2BBS

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 01:23:28 on 92/09/24 GMT (by WDFARMER at RALVM5)
Subject: Problem installing OS/2 2.0
Ref:     Append at 21:18:03 on 92/09/23 GMT (by NOSWALD at TORECS)

The two PMDIARY's are not the same; you've probably got one trying
to use pieces of the other (through a LIBPATH, etc.).  Either that,
or you've succeeded in partially overwriting your old one.  Solution
is to just have one on your system - the non-GA one has more
functionality.

Wayne D. Farmer, Communications Manager/2 Install Component Team Leader

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 12:33:07 on 92/09/24 GMT (by PERSHNG at YKTVMH)
Subject: Problem installing OS/2 2.0
Ref:     Append at 21:18:03 on 92/09/23 GMT (by NOSWALD at TORECS)

PMDIARY was not available with OS/2 1.3, so I must assume that you
managed to procure a copy of the IBM Internal Use Only (IUO) version.
The IUO version and the PID version (shipped with OS/2 2.0) do not mix
and match with each other very well.  Purge all traces of either the IUO
version or the PID version (especially the .DLL files found in your
LIBPATH) by moving the suspect files off into a "scratch" directory, and
see if things get better.

You may find that you prefer to keep the IUO version and dump the PID
version:  they CUA-ified the PID version, making it harder to use than
the original IUO version.  (I, on the other hand, pride myself in being
a computer-friendly user, so I have gotten used to the PID version :-)

John A. Pershing Jr.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 15:17:01 on 92/09/24 GMT (by XXMTBD03 at TORVMCOP)
Subject: Welcome Tut. removal

I hope that this is a simple question with a simple answer.  How do we
stop the welcome tutorial from starting each time OS/2 V2 begins?  It
is not a regular folder or app that one can drop in the shredder.

Rolph Poorter                            Metro Toronto School Board

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 15:28:20 on 92/09/24 GMT (by XXWESB07 at TORVMCOP)
Subject: OS/2 1.3: XGA -> VGA
Ref:     Append at 13:25:16 on 92/09/22 GMT (by PERSHNG at YKTVMH)

John,
  Thanks for your help. After making the suggested changes to CONFIG.SYS
and UNPACKing the VGA DLL off of install diskette #5 and renaming it
to DISPLAY.DLL, the system is now back to running VGA...

Craig Knelsen, Information Systems Management Corp. (ISM)
One Research Drive, Regina, SK  Canada  S4S 7H1
[phone]     Fax: [phone]

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 16:22:36 on 92/09/24 GMT (by HSMITH at STLVM22)
Subject: Welcome Tut. removal
Ref:     Append at 15:17:01 on 92/09/24 GMT (by XXMTBD03 at TORVMCOP)

The Welcome Tutorial should only be started automatically during the
first ipl after install.  The reason it is displayed during this time is
to let you learn a few things about OS/2 V2 while the desktop is being
built.  It is very important that you make sure after the desktop has
been built and you have made whatever changes to your system, that you
make sure the tutorial app is ended before you do a very orderly
shutdown.  If you power off, anything that is running will be restarted.
If you aren't going to do a reinstall again, then when it comes back up
again, END the tutorial application, then select shutdown from the
desktop settings, and then let the OS/2 V2 software system shutdown.
Once you get the message that all activity has ceased, do a Ctrl-Alt-Del
and reboot your system.  The tutorial should not restart.  If it does,
you may be forced to do an install and then very carefully shutdown (not
power off) your os/2 system with the tutorial application ended and the
desktop built before you shutdown.

I hope this helps.

Hugh Smith

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 16:28:01 on 92/09/24 GMT (by HSMITH at STLVM22)
Subject: 50Mhz Processors
Ref:     Append at 16:06:57 on 92/09/18 GMT (by ACPAPRO at CHGVMIC1)

I myself have installed OS/2 V2 on a clone running the 486DX2 (25Mhzx2).
The bus is ISA and I had some problem on my motherboard due to an
incorrect sensing of the CPU clock to set the BUS speed.  The supplier
got my board replaced and everything is fine.  I also use SCSI which
made the problem apparent during the first boot after power on because
it uses a DMA channel.

Hugh Smith

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 16:31:01 on 92/09/24 GMT (by XXBCHY11 at TORVMCOP)
Subject: Problem installing OS/2 2.0
Ref:     Append at 12:33:07 on 92/09/24 GMT (by PERSHNG at YKTVMH)

Thanks for the information. I will remove the IUO version. Better to
stick with supported code for OS/2 2.0 GA.

Regards, Joe Smeets
WESTECH Information Systems Inc.
Vancouver, BC, Canada [phone]

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 17:19:04 on 92/09/24 GMT (by XXMTBD03 at TORVMCOP)
Subject: Welcome Tut. removal
Ref:     Append at 16:22:36 on 92/09/24 GMT (by HSMITH at STLVM22)

Thanks for the reply.  I guess that this is a problem on machines that
were pre-installed with OS/2,  I haven't seen it on installations I've
done from diskette.  I will probably have to re-install from diskette,
because I've followed the close and orderly shutdown several times.  This
isn't the first difference I've seen between PS/2 pre-installs and the
diskette version.  Has anyone else had difficulties with this?

Rolph Poorter                             Metro Toronto School Board

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 21:46:20 on 92/09/24 GMT (by RDEBAY at BCRVMPC1)
Subject: Welcome Tut. removal
Ref:     Append at 17:19:04 on 92/09/24 GMT (by XXMTBD03 at TORVMCOP)

  Drag the shadow of the tutorial found in the startup folder to the
shredder.  You can find this in the documentation that comes with
your system, if you have any further questions.

Rick DeBay
OS/2 Technical Support

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 14:08:12 on 92/09/25 GMT (by AYP1Q01 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Files to delete

I saw an append here once, or perhaps on another forum, listing the various
files which could be safely deleted to reclaim space on a small hard drive.
Could someone please reprint that list?  I have a couple of users running
with 80MB drives who need all the space they can get.  (OS/2 + ES + LS +
SWAPPER.DAT can easily use 65MB by themselves, and I expect the upcoming
Service Pack will require some additional space.)  We don't do any application
development, so I know we can do without any source code, header, or include
files.

Thanks in advance.

Steve Bassler, Allegheny Power

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 14:26:24 on 92/09/25 GMT (by AYP1Q01 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Ctrl-Alt-Delete hangs
Ref: Append at 14:47:24 on 92/08/10 GMT (by AYP1Q01 at OS2CUST)

It's been several weeks since I asked this question, and in the meantime I
solved the problem myself.  (Ouch!  Patting yourself on the back can hurt
sometimes, you know?)  To recap:  I was unable to use Ctrl-Alt-Delete to
reboot my machine, because it would hang a short while after displaying the
initial OS/2 Logo "Loading..." screen.  I had given up on the problem until
I helped a colleague install OS/2 on his machine, and it did the same thing.
He had some trouble installing Extended Services/LAN Services, so we looked
at a few other people's setups and determined that the problem was in the
\IBMCOM\PROTOCOL.INI file.  We copied their settings, and both problems
(ES/LS and the reboot) disappeared.  I then copied the same settings and
also adjusted the cache size in my CONFIG.SYS IFS=C:\OS2\HPFS.IFS statement
to 256K (it had been 384K), and now I am OK, too.  I'm not absolutely sure
which of the two changes actually corrected the problem- it may have been
both.  It didn't really get straightened out until I played with the cache
size for a while- I tried 64K first, then 256K, which is what the other
machine used.

I had also tried playing with the "Logo display" option in the System Setup
options, but it made no difference.  Can anyone tell me what this Logo display
thing is all about?  Nothing I do with it seems to make any difference
anywhere.  What logos is it talking about?

Steve Bassler, Allegheny Power

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 15:50:40 on 92/09/25 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP)
Subject: Install-Remove
Would it be possible to change the 'selective install' to have
a feature to remove any of the optional components?
It takes a long time to find all the connected files and remove all.
(I had to do a selective install to find out the files for the
terminal emulator.)
I should be able to remove, and reinstall any parts to any OTHER
location. (The C drive\partition is always too small.)

Geza Szivos
NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583
NHO-32 801-7th Ave Calgary, Alberta, CANADA  T2P 2N6

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 16:03:17 on 92/09/25 GMT (by NANR6GN at OS2CUST)
Subject: Welcome Tut. removal
Ref: Append at 17:19:04 on 92/09/24 GMT (by XXMTBD03 at TORVMCOP)

On preinstall machines you have to delete the Tutorial from the
Startup Folder.Also if you want to eliminate the extra Welcome logo,
go into the CONFIG.SYS file, and look for a line that says
c:\OS2\INSTALL\PRELOAD....... and either delete it or put a REM in
front of it. This will make it boot like a normal OS/2 system.

Cesar Ventura

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 16:06:43 on 92/09/25 GMT (by ABLI001 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Files to delete
Ref: Append at 14:08:12 on 92/09/25 GMT (by AYP1Q01 at OS2CUST)

Personal Systems Technical Solutions issue 4, 1990 gave a list of files
for v1.2 which might give a general idea of what could be done.
It is IBM order number G325-5009.

->Rich Corbett; ABC Liquors, Inc., Orlando, FL              (NASPA: CORBRIC7)

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 20:40:51 on 92/09/25 GMT (by XXMTBD03 at TORVMCOP)
Subject: Welcome Tut. removal
Ref:     Append at 16:03:17 on 92/09/25 GMT (by NANR6GN at OS2CUST)

Thanks for all your help.  Startup folder on several machines is not
there so it looks like I'll have to re-install on those units.

Rolph Poorter   MTSB      (October 6th won't come fast enough :> )

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 20:43:04 on 92/09/25 GMT (by NAAO3IY at HONE85)
Subject: Ctrl-Alt-Delete hangs
Ref: Append at 14:26:24 on 92/09/25 GMT (by AYP1Q01 at OS2CUST)

The "Logo display" option is just a suggestion that is kept on file
for application programs to use.  They are supposed to follow this
suggestion if they pop up with a "Hello" or copyright message when
they start.  Not all of them by any means do.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 21:29:49 on 92/09/25 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Welcome Tut. removal
Ref: Append at 20:40:51 on 92/09/25 GMT (by XXMTBD03 at TORVMCOP)

What's on 10-6?  Is this IBM's idea of the end of September :)?  Oh well -
close enough...

Chris Knoell (MGH)

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 15:05:21 on 92/09/26 GMT (by FVXB533 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Dialog Driven Remote Installation
Ref: Append at 12:05:46 on 92/09/21 GMT (by AWAITE at SYDVM1)

Alan,

    I was wondering if you could get me a copy of the files that you have used
to get the dialog driven install to work.  The following files would be useful:

           - CONFIGRI.20
           - INSTALL.RSP
           - FIT file
           - RPL.MAP file

I feel that might help me.  I have also posted my CONFIGRI.20 file in a
previous append.  You may want to look at that first to see if there is
anything bizarre in the file that you may see that is causing me problems.

                                                  Thanks.

Frank Valdivieso

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 02:39:36 on 92/09/28 GMT (by JERRYB at SYDVM1)
Subject: OS/2 install from B: drive

   My customer has an OEM PC and has purchased OS/2 (3.5" Diskettes)
Version 2.0.

   His problem is that his PC's A: drive is 5.25" and he is not able
to reconfigure his PC to IPL from the 3.5" drive. He would like to
install OS/2 V2 - so is there something that we have that would redirect
the installation of OS/2 V2 to start from the B: 3.5" drive.

   Thankyou
Jerry Badalassi, IBM Australia (JERRYB at SYDVM1)

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 03:46:07 on 92/09/28 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE84)
Subject: OS/2 install from B: drive
Ref: Append at 02:39:36 on 92/09/28 GMT (by JERRYB at SYDVM1)

Jerry,

There is a package available on the NSC BBS at 404-835-6600 called INSTALLB
that can be used to install from a 5.25 A: and 3.5 B: drive.  I believe it is
available on the internal TOOLS disk also.  You will also need to download
a LDF.COM which is a selfextracting zip file that will create a program
LOADDSKF that is needed to actually create the disk images, this is probably
also available on one of your internal disks.

Jack Hiatt  Marc Life  Atlanta Ga.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 03:49:12 on 92/09/28 GMT (by THRUMD at SYDVM1)
..... OS2INST CFORUM modified at 22:58:25 on 92/09/28 GMT (by HOPKINS at AUSVM8)
Subject: OS/2 install from B: drive
Ref:     Append at 02:39:36 on 92/09/28 GMT (by JERRYB at SYDVM1)

Yes, there's a package on OS2CSD (INSTALLB) that allows you to install
OS/2 from a 3.5" B drive.

>>> The package on this BBS is called INSTB and is available off the
>>> Main Menu under IBM Support in Selective Fixes.
>>> Ken

Dave

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 12:53:45 on 92/09/29 GMT (by MMM160 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Using FDISK to set a partition "installable"

What is required to make a partition "installable".
I have two hard drives with two primary partitions and several
extended partitions. FDISKPM does not allow me to mark the partitions as
installable. I have OS/2 2.0 on my C: drive and would like to install
the version with the 32 bit graphics engine/windows 3.1 support on an
extended partition.

What is the requirement for a partition to be "installable"

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 13:13:13 on 92/09/29 GMT (by HNDERSON at AUSVM8)
Subject: Using FDISK to set a partition "installable"
Ref:     Append at 12:53:45 on 92/09/29 GMT (by MMM160 at OS2CUST)
You use the FDISK command to make a partition installable, bootable
etc.

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|   _   |   / _~_ \  Sincerely |  . < Staff OSS to OS/2 BBS (TEAMOS2)
|__| |__|  /_/   \_\  |__|\__| |_| \_\ Tie:8-793-8647  Austin, Texas
                                       LNK1SM7 @ IBMLINK - OS/2 BBS

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 19:29:56 on 92/09/30 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP)
Subject: Remote Install & response files
How can I change the default SWAPPATH=x:\OS2\SYSTEM nnnn mmmmm
to a different path (like SWAPPATH=D:\TMP 2048 3072)
with RSPINST ?

How can I remove the default REM before the SET DELDIR command
(RSPINST) ?

Is this the right forum?
(I have the NTS/2 fixes.)

Geza Szivos
NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583
NHO-32 801-7th Ave Calgary, Alberta, CANADA  T2P 2N6

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 22:40:45 on 92/09/30 GMT (by KENKAHN at PKSMRVM)
Subject: Remote Install & response files
Ref:     Append at 19:29:56 on 92/09/30 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP)

In your Response File you can add the following lines:

ConfigSysLine=SET DELDIR=....
ConfigSysLine=SWAPPATH=...

While you can't actually edit any CONFIG.SYS lines directly, these statements
will be appended to the end of the created CONFIG.SYS and override any earlier
statements.

Kenneth Kahn    Staff of IBM Fellow: IBM Personal/370    Poughkeepsie, NY
Internet: [e-mail]       IBMMAIL: USIB25P9 at IBMMAIL

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 05:19:51 on 92/10/01 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP)
Subject: Remote Install & response files
Ref:     Append at 22:40:45 on 92/09/30 GMT (by KENKAHN at PKSMRVM)

So It will overwrite the prev. setting. I'll try it .
I was nearly sure that two SWAPPATH statement would confuse the Loader.

Geza Szivos
NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583
NHO-32 801-7th Ave Calgary, Alberta, CANADA  T2P 2N6

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 18:40:20 on 92/10/02 GMT (by AOI1075 at OS2CUST)
Subject: OS/2 1.3: XGA -> VGA
Ref: Append at 15:28:20 on 92/09/24 GMT (by XXWESB07 at TORVMCOP)

FYI:

   Under 1.3 there was a program on the XGA support diskettes that allowed
you to switch between resolutions (from 1024x768 to 640x480, and back).  I
used this occasionally because I had to develop some applications for VGA.
This facility allowed me to stay with the XGA drivers, but switch screen
resolutions when required (no changes to CONFIG.SYS needed).

   If you really switch from XGA to a VGA adapter, this information has no
relevance.  I thought I would mention it because few people seemed to
know of this capability in 1.3.

J.Farmer    IBMMAIL(USAOIXGW)

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 20:32:53 on 92/10/03 GMT (by IL48672 at HONE83)
Subject: Problem during OS/2 2.0 Installation
Ref: Append at 18:40:12 on 92/09/02 GMT (by AIX015 at AUSVM8)

Ross,

    I know that you wrote this message about a month ago, and you
have probably given up by now, but I will respond anyway.  You said
that you had a DELL 310 and when you tried to install you never even
saw the OS/2 Logo, just Operating System/2.   I had the same problem.
Even reported it several times with no success.  I finally discovered that
I had a very old VGA card in my machine (don't remember which one),
but swapped it out with a newer one from Paradise, and now it works
fine.

Hope this helps you (or anyone else out there with this problem)

Chris Breisch
Pritsker Corporation

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 18:02:09 on 92/10/04 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP)
Subject: RSPINST return codes.
I'm experimenting with LCU-Code server, and I've got back a few error
codes from RSPINST.
Where can I look up the return code?
(it was 949, probably not enough disk space, but still where is it
it was 949, probably not enough disk space, but still where is it
documented?)

Geza Szivos
NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583
NHO-32 801-7th Ave Calgary, Alberta, CANADA  T2P 2N6

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 22:20:08 on 92/10/04 GMT (by KENKAHN at PKSMRVM)
Subject: RSPINST return codes.
Ref:     Append at 18:02:09 on 92/10/04 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP)

A RC=949 is one of those 'generic' error codes that means "SYSTEM_ERROR".
Not very useful I admit.  Is there anything in the INSTALL.LOG File that
might give more information.

Kenneth Kahn    Staff of IBM Fellow: IBM Personal/370    Poughkeepsie, NY
Internet: [e-mail]       IBMMAIL: USIB25P9 at IBMMAIL

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 05:26:45 on 92/10/05 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP)
Subject: RSPINST return codes.
Ref:     Append at 22:20:08 on 92/10/04 GMT (by KENKAHN at PKSMRVM)

Well , it finished the whole installation for Base, including the
generic printer driver, and since 40K left on C I guess it's the diskspac
.
I was looking for the location where I can find this error codes.
Once you will have more readers of the 96F8488 , you'll get more
questions.

Geza Szivos
NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583
NHO-32 801-7th Ave Calgary, Alberta, CANADA  T2P 2N6

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 20:23:06 on 92/10/06 GMT (by IL09293 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Rebooting after FDISK.

I have set up an install process using SRVIFS\SERVICE.EXE. The first
step of the install copies the existing files from the target machine
to a backup area onthe server. The next step runs FDISK to partion
the hard drive. At this time the system must be rebooted. My question is:
Is there any way to automate the reboot at this point?

Raymond Pratts

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 20:45:31 on 92/10/06 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP)
Subject: Rebooting after FDISK.
Ref:     Append at 20:23:06 on 92/10/06 GMT (by IL09293 at OS2CUST)

Yes , there is the setboot.exe in GA disks.

Geza Szivos
NOVACOR Chemicals  (403)-290-6583 Fax [phone]
NHO-32 801-7th Ave Calgary, Alberta, CANADA T2P 2N6

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 15:02:52 on 92/10/07 GMT (by IL09039 at OS2CUST)
Subject: HPFS backup/restore process question

Recovery from hard drive failure or replacement with DOS FAT files is fairly si
mple on  a single-floppy boot disk and the full set of backups.  Recovery from
 such failures with an OS/2 HPFS system is not that clear.  Is there a good exp
lanation of such a process for OS/2 ?  Is it possible to build a simple OS/2
system that is bootable from the floppy drive and has enough smarts to allow th
e partitioning/formatting/restoration of the hard drive ?

....

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 19:57:22 on 92/10/07 GMT (by XXCAIL28 at TORVMCOP)
Subject: LIU/2 Users Guide, Interactive Image Create, once the image
retriever is online, what is supposed to happen?

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 22:42:12 on 92/10/07 GMT (by HNDERSON at AUSVM8)
Subject: HPFS backup/restore process question
Ref:     Append at 15:02:52 on 92/10/07 GMT (by IL09039 at OS2CUST)
Yes, there is.  There is a download able bootable V2 diskette on this
BBS, it has CHKDSK on it for HPFS, it should meet your needs.

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|   _   |   / _~_ \  Sincerely |  . < Staff OSS to OS/2 BBS (TEAMOS2)
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Please do something..! Lead, follow or get out of the way.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 23:57:34 on 92/10/07 GMT (by IL87411 at HONE84)
Subject: HPFS backup/restore process question
Ref: Append at 22:42:12 on 92/10/07 GMT (by HNDERSON at AUSVM8)

Hank (or any one else for that matter),

Where/What is the downloadable file containing a bootable 2.0 diskette
with CHKDSK?  Does it support HPFS as well?  I hope so, 'cause I've not
succeeded in getting it on one floppy since 6.167 (last Beta).

Lynn Deffenbaugh
Computer Task Group/ISI
Melbourne, FL (temporarily Benton Harbor, MI)

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 00:17:42 on 92/10/08 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE82)
Subject: HPFS backup/restore process question
Ref: Append at 15:02:52 on 92/10/07 GMT (by IL09039 at OS2CUST)

THere are several items posted on the OS/2 supporting BBSes that will allow
you to build a single boot disk for OS/2, including HPFS suport, then an
additional disk can be used containing any utilities that will not fit on the
boot disk.  I believe at least one of these tools is posted in the TOOLs file
section on this BBS.

Jack Hiatt  Marc Life  Atlanta Ga.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 00:37:10 on 92/10/08 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE82)
Subject: HPFS backup/restore process question
Ref: Append at 23:57:34 on 92/10/07 GMT (by IL87411 at HONE84)

Lynn,

Check out OS/2 BBS Software Library
TOOLS
BOOT20

There is also another one that is available on the NSC BBS that I can't
currently remember the name of, but if you ever use the NSC BBS, just look at
File DIrectory #10 both of them are in there.

Jack Hiatt  Marc Life  Atlanta Ga.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 12:55:30 on 92/10/08 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST)
Subject: HPFS backup/restore process question
Ref: Append at 00:37:10 on 92/10/08 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE82)

I've downloaded the tool available on this BBS for HPFS single disk boot.  It
does boot the machine, but CHKDSK does not work on the (C:) drive!  I've been
told that there are additional .DLL files that cannot fit on a 1.44 MB floppy
that are required to do this.  Is there anyone who has actually TRIED this out?

Chris Knoell (MGH)

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 13:17:07 on 92/10/08 GMT (by KENKAHN at PKSMRVM)
Subject: HPFS backup/restore process question
Ref:     Append at 12:55:30 on 92/10/08 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST)

The 'extra' file you need for a HPFS Disk is UHPFS.DLL which is about 170K
in size.  There's just no room to add this to a 1.44M BOOT Disk.  I've been
looking into some shareware progams that allow you to format a 1.44M disk for
1.7M but haven't been able to figure out how they do it yet.

In the meantime, what you can do is create a second disk and place on it
CHKDSK, UHPFS and anything else you might want; e.g. a Text Editor, FORMAT,
FDISK, and so on.  After BOOTing from your disk, insert your 'tools' disk
into A: and then use CHKDSK or whatever.  If you have a second drive, you
can modify the CONFIG.SYS on the BOOT Disk so PATH, DPATH and LIBPATH all
point to the B:\ drive and then just insert the TOOLS disk into B: without
having to switch.

If you had a 2.88M Disk Drive this could all fit on one BOOT disk, so it is
'physically' possible.  Given the space constraints, I'm afraid this is the
best I can do for now.

(SE20BOOT/BOOT20 Author)

Kenneth Kahn    Staff of IBM Fellow: IBM Personal/370    Poughkeepsie, NY
Internet: [e-mail]       IBMMAIL: USIB25P9 at IBMMAIL

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 14:08:34 on 92/10/08 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST)
Subject: HPFS backup/restore process question
Ref: Append at 13:17:07 on 92/10/08 GMT (by KENKAHN at PKSMRVM)

Please put a note on the file description to this effect.  Is there any way
use disk compression on the floppy that expands the files into memory?  I know
that it seems to be a "low priority" type of item, but I think that being able
to boot OS/2 with HPFS from a single disk would make many former DOS users more
comfortable.  How about building a boot disk as part of the installation - like
DOS 5.0 does?

Chris Knoell (MGH)

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 14:24:23 on 92/10/08 GMT (by KENKAHN at PKSMRVM)
Subject: HPFS backup/restore process question
Ref:     Append at 14:08:34 on 92/10/08 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST)

I used to have a version of SE20BOOT available (internal to IBM only) before
OS/2 went GA that bundled up a number of files like UHPFS.DLL and CMD.EXE into
a single packed file.  I provided a 'shell' program that unpacked these files
into a virtual disk (VDISK.SYS).  Unfortunately, when OS/2 went GA, the size
of the various system files was just enough to prevent me from doing this.  If
you can find the shareware progams I refered to that format the disk to 1.7M
or so, you can preformat the BOOT disk and then run SE20BOOT.  You should have
enough space to fit UHPFS now.

I'll add a blurb to the documentation about HPFS access.

Kenneth Kahn    Staff of IBM Fellow: IBM Personal/370    Poughkeepsie, NY
Internet: [e-mail]       IBMMAIL: USIB25P9 at IBMMAIL

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 15:41:57 on 92/10/08 GMT (by IL09039 at OS2CUST)
Subject: HPFS backup/restore process question
Ref: Append at 22:42:12 on 92/10/07 GMT (by HNDERSON at AUSVM8)

Thanks Hank and to the others who responded.  Several other items on the Tools
file look interesting.  Guess I'll try to get the boss to replace my 1200
bps modem to make browsing those things a little more productive.  I might
even become an OS/2 fanatic after a time...

Al Winfrey - Indy

....

Al Winfrey - Indy

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 16:40:15 on 92/10/08 GMT (by DAPOLLOC at SFOVMIC1)
Subject: Gateway 486 Local Bus DX2-66

Well, I just tried to install OS/2 2.0 on my brand-spanking new Local Bus
with the new ATI Ultra Pro card.  The initial part of the install went
okay, including the reboot.  The OS/2 Logo displays fine, along with the
"Loading, please wait..." message.  But, when it switches to video mode,
the display goes haywire.  I can tell that something is being painted
because the color mix changes (in the fog).

I called Gateway (several times), and their tech support person told me that
no one there had ever installed OS/2 (much less 2.0) on THAT box.

Two questions come to mind:  1) Is it the local bus?  2) Is it the ATI card?

If anyone can help, I would appreciate it.  It is a nice LOOKING box, and it
runs Windows REALLY, REALLY fast.

David Pollock
Senior System Engineer, Seattle

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 19:47:21 on 92/10/08 GMT (by MLIC002 at HONE83)
Subject: Gateway 486 Local Bus DX2-66
Ref: Append at 16:40:15 on 92/10/08 GMT (by DAPOLLOC at SFOVMIC1)

I installed OS/2 on the same machine with no problems at all.  My guess would be
either your ATI Ultra's EEPROM has not been configured to boot with your monitor,
see ATI's INSTALL.EXE program, or the monitor is not switching freqencies properly,
boot from a DOS diskette and run ATI's INSTALL.EXE program and use the test option
to run a test at the desired resolution.   I'm writing this append from a Gateway 2000
4DX2-66V machine so it does work, good luck!

Bernie Basel - Monumental Life - Technical Services

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 02:55:55 on 92/10/09 GMT (by IL87411 at HONE81)
Subject: HPFS backup/restore process question
Ref: Append at 00:37:10 on 92/10/08 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE82)

Jack,

Thanks.  I'll pull that one down.

I've "seen" you a bunch on the NSC BBS and really love the support you
give everyone there.  I wish I had the kind of time you seem to have.
I've got to ask, are you married or have a family?  That's where most
of my time has been going, a wife and two small children.

Thanks for the pointer to the file.

Lynn Deffenbaugh, Computer Task Group/ISI, Melbourne, FL

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 04:01:38 on 92/10/09 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE82)
Subject: HPFS backup/restore process question
Ref: Append at 02:55:55 on 92/10/09 GMT (by IL87411 at HONE81)

Lynn,
Yep married but currently we're working opposing shifts. So I have a bit of
time to spend on the BBS, plus I get to cheat a little and spend some time at
work on there while waiting for problems to crop up on the mainframe.

Jack Hiatt  Marc Life  Atlanta Ga.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 13:15:03 on 92/10/09 GMT (by GOLDINS at FSHVMDC)
Subject: OS/2 Counterpart to DOS SUBST Command?

Does anyone know if it is possible in OS/2 to map a drive letter (e.g.
u:) to another drive and path or at least another drive (as in DOS
command SUBST)? Thanks in advance.

Steve Goldin,  IBM East Fishkill  FSHVMDC(GOLDINS)

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 20:15:59 on 92/10/09 GMT (by KIRKAB at YKTVMH)
..... OS2INST CFORUM modified at 22:48:27 on 92/10/09 GMT (by KIRKAB at YKTVMH)
<wrong forum> ... moved.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 21:13:07 on 92/10/09 GMT (by IL53645 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Boot Diskette

I downloaded the boot diskette zip file from this bbs (SE20BOOT.zip) yesterday
and made a boot diskette.  When I tried to boot the machine (Model 90) I got th
e following 2 errors.

OS/2  !!  SYS02025
OS/2  !!  SYS02027

and the machine locked up.  Anyone have any insight to this?

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 23:49:08 on 92/10/09 GMT (by KENKAHN at PKSMRVM)
Subject: Boot Diskette
Ref:     Append at 21:13:07 on 92/10/09 GMT (by IL53645 at OS2CUST)

Those two messages basically translate into "Non-System Disk".  One or more
'system' files, i.e. OS2BOOT, OS2LDR, or OS2KRNL are missing or BAD.  Did the
SE20BOOT Program complete sucessfully?  Was the disk pre-formatted?  If not
there's a known problem with the current version where the FORMAT fails for
reasons that I haven't figured out yet and the error is not detected.  Try
formatting the disk before runnign SE20BOOT and see if it helps.

Kenneth Kahn    Staff of IBM Fellow: IBM Personal/370    Poughkeepsie, NY
Internet: [e-mail]       IBMMAIL: USIB25P9 at IBMMAIL

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 04:39:26 on 92/10/10 GMT (by THRUMD at SYDVM1)
Subject: Boot Diskette
Ref:     Append at 23:49:08 on 92/10/09 GMT (by KENKAHN at PKSMRVM)

I've had this happen the opposite way - got this error building a boot
disk on an empty diskette, but when the diskette was not empty (and
SE20BOOT reformatted on the fly) all was OK.

Dave

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 19:22:25 on 92/10/10 GMT (by HNDERSON at AUSVM8)
Subject: OS/2 Counterpart to DOS SUBST Command?
Ref:     Append at 13:15:03 on 92/10/09 GMT (by GOLDINS at FSHVMDC)
Steve, no there isn't a way to reassign drive letters like in DOS

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 17:05:14 on 92/10/11 GMT (by IL53035 at OS2CUST)
Subject: LIU/2 on Gateway

I'm trying to use LIU/2 to install on a Gateway 486SX/25 machine. Process is
hanging on the "Making C: drive bootable" step. Only the OS2KRNL file was
created successfully. The image was created on Compaq LTE/25 notebook which is
also a non-microchannel machine using PRINT01, CLOCK01, KBD01 and SCREEN01
system drivers. Had no problem uploading image. OS2KRNL size is 716044 which is
OK. Any ideas? We're trying to determine if a single image can be used on
multiple machine-types. I've used a microchannel image successfully on Mod55SX,
Mod56SX, Mod70 - 121 and A61 and a Mod90.
Appreciate any help you can give ...

June Jenkins - NYNEX TRG

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 18:31:41 on 92/10/11 GMT (by IL21480 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Cannot Access 2nd Drive from OS/2 2.0

One of our 386sx clone has 2 hard drives. Configured the system for Boot Mgr.
with the ff:
 Physical Drive 1:    Boot Manager    Startable
                   c: DOS             Primary/Bootable-> DOS 5.0
                   d: OS2             Logical/Installable-> OS2
 Physical Drive 2: e: DOS2            Logical-> for data (tried primary,same
                                                          results)
 Drive E (2nd Phy drive) cant be accessed frm OS2 DOS session and OS/2 session.
 If we open a DOS session and format drive E, we are able to read/write to
 it.  But once we shutdown OS/2, and IPL again, we cant access Drive E once
 more.
 From a native DOS 5.0 environment, we could read/write to drive E fine.
 Did we miss anything in setting up the Hard Drives?

The hard drives are both IDE 40 MEGS, Seagate 157A and QUANTUM 40AT.
 Thanks for your help

Joel Cruz, UCIC

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 23:38:18 on 92/10/11 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE83)
Subject: Cannot Access 2nd Drive from OS/2 2.0
Ref: Append at 18:31:41 on 92/10/11 GMT (by IL21480 at OS2CUST)

Joel,

Normally the addressing would be C: E: on the #1 drive and D: on the #2
drive.  C: should be first physical  D: should be second physical.  At least
this is the only way that seems to work on any of the multiple drive machines
I have worked on recently.

Jack Hiatt  Marc Life  Atlanta Ga.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 01:17:35 on 92/10/12 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP)
Subject: Boot Diskette
Ref:     Append at 23:49:08 on 92/10/09 GMT (by KENKAHN at PKSMRVM)

Ken, when I used two unformated disks to try to make the install
disks from the CDROM beta, it wouldn't work. I had to stop the
process, go back into GA, format the disks, and then all went
well when I started the process again. Hope this little piece of
information helps.

Elliott M. Avedon
University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1
[phone] x2204

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 02:10:25 on 92/10/12 GMT (by HAYNIE at OS2CUST)
Subject: Gateway 486 Local Bus DX2-66
Ref: Append at 19:47:21 on 92/10/08 GMT (by MLIC002 at HONE83)

I had the same problem with my ATI Graphics Ultra.  I have the newer model that
supports the 76MHz refresh rate.  The system would hang-up and the mouse would
also lock-up the system.  I changed the refresh rate to 72MHz and all my video
problems went away.

Robert P. Bartoszak - Mobil Oil Corporation

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 12:39:41 on 92/10/12 GMT (by KENKAHN at PKSMRVM)
Subject: Boot Diskette
Ref:     Append at 01:17:35 on 92/10/12 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP)

I ordered the CDROM for myself last week and hopefully should be getting it
somewhere in the near future.  When I do I'll see if this is in line with
the other format problems I've received (and fixed) or if it's a new one.
One of the problems I have with this is the lack of unformatted disks.  All
the disks I get internally are preformatted.  Most of the ones you can buy
locally in the stores are the same way.

Sometime in the next few weeks I'll be releasing a new version of SE20BOOT
with the fixes I have so far (and maybe one or two enhancements).

Kenneth Kahn    Staff of IBM Fellow: IBM Personal/370    Poughkeepsie, NY
Internet: [e-mail]       IBMMAIL: USIB25P9 at IBMMAIL

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 13:58:47 on 92/10/12 GMT (by IL09039 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Boot Diskette
Ref: Append at 12:39:41 on 92/10/12 GMT (by KENKAHN at PKSMRVM)

If "unformatting" a diskette is your only problem, Radio Shack still sells
a bulk eraser.  I've used it when suspecting formatting bugs on older
systems.  You have to be careful when using it with 3-1/2 inch floppies
but it is very effective in removing old formatting data.

....

Al Winfrey - Indy

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 16:01:09 on 92/10/13 GMT (by IL22867 at OS2CUST)
Subject: OS/2 2.0, DOS 5.0, Boot Manager

Machine:  IBM PS/2 Model 80
          120mb drive
          2mb memory on mother board
          8mb memory on Intel MC32 above board
          Kingston 486/33 PD3 processor upgrade

Software: Boot Manager  1mb
          DOS 5.0      29mb   primary partition (C drive)
          OS/2 2.0     85mb   logical partition (D drive)

Problem:  Do a warm boot from DOS 5.0
          Select OS/2 2.0 in boot manager
          gives following error:
             The system does not have enough storage to start the operating
             system.  The system is stopped.  Correct the preceding error
             and restart the system.

          Problem does not occur in any other scenario.

Buddy Weaver  Shell Oil Company

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 18:56:27 on 92/10/13 GMT (by RDEBAY at BCRVMPC1)
Subject: OS/2 2.0, DOS 5.0, Boot Manager
Ref:     Append at 16:01:09 on 92/10/13 GMT (by IL22867 at OS2CUST)

  Sounds like a timing problem in the hardware causing the memory to
not be seen on bootup.  A well known example of something sort of
similar is the 162 post error on PS/1s.  If you dual boot from OS/2 to
DOS, a timing problem in the hardware causes the system to not see the
hard drive, thus giving a 162 - incorrect configuration error.

Rick DeBay

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 19:44:16 on 92/10/13 GMT (by CMB51 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Serious problem with OS/2 2.0 GA installation on MFM,RLL,ESDI drives

Hello, IBM OS/2 development team!
Having been with OS/2 2.0 through all beta and GA versions, I hope to see this
terrific operating system become very popular.
In all that, one of the most painful experience was to be unable to install GA
on my MFM (S506 interface) drives.  All beta versions, including 6.304,
installed just fine. Well... AMI Bios, keyboard Bios, etc., but it is another
story.  Therefore, because somebody goofed at the last moment, it prevented
a lot of devoted OS/2 users from installing GA version.
I had to use 6.304 version of IBM1S506.ADD driver to install GA.
This problem was supposed to be corrected by a new version of IBM1S506.ADD,
dated 5/15/92, length 13036 bytes.  The new driver still does not work,
I still had to use 6.304 version!  How about users, who had no access to 6.304?
What is even worse, the new beta, with 32 bit graphics engine and Windows 3.1
support, still carries over this fault!  The IBM1S506.ADD in the new beta,
dated 08/10/92, length 13116 bytes, still does not let install OS/2 on my MFM
drives. Even now, I still had to use 6.304 version of that driver!
I do not know what is the cause, perhaps it does not support two S506 drives in
the system, but it is high time that this problem be finally corrected, before
the new beta becomes new GA.  Otherwise, we still may have to use the 6.304
version of this driver for future OS/2 releases!
Please, let somebody recognize and correct this problem.  The last good driver
was IBM1S506.ADD dated 2/15/92, length about 20k, in release 6.304!
Francis Rynkiewicz.

Francis Rynkiewicz, IIN userid - CMB51.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 21:21:58 on 92/10/13 GMT (by NBHOBAZ at OS2CUST)
Subject: 8514/A to XGA upgrade: approach?

I currently have an 8514/A adapter, with 1 MB installed, and an 8514 monitor.
I am running in the high-resolution mode.  I would like to now install an
XGA adapter (XGA Adapter/A (not the new one)), which also will have 1MB (I
have the memory expansion option), and will connect to an 8515.

I know that OS/2 is intimately tied to its graphics adapter, and its reso-
lution, and want to prevent problems to make the new combo work right from
the get-go, if possible.

I need to know what my approach to installing this upgrade should be, so that
I don't have to re-install OS/2 2.0 from scratch,and will be able to get to the
XGA high-resolution mode as quickly as possible.  I'm running the GA version,
with the fix applied that allows swapper to vary in size.
Are there guidelines on what approach I should use?

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 21:23:29 on 92/10/13 GMT (by SURS001 at OS2CUST)
Subject: SYS1719 NETWKSTA.200 !?!?!?

HELP !!!
JUST INSTALLED OS/2'S DATABASE.  NOW WHEN I RE-BOOT I'M GETTING TWO ERRORS.

NET3406 ON NET1=NETBEUI?.

SYS1719 C:\IBMLAN\NETPROG\NETWKSTA.200

NOW I CAN'T GET CONNECTED TO MY LAN SERVER.

Byron Campbell    State Universities Retirement System

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 22:06:38 on 92/10/13 GMT (by SSIA013 at OS2CUST)
Subject: SVGA Diamond Speedstar (yes or no)?

Has anybody have any info on weather the SVGA mode of the Diamond Speedstar
card ?  Are the drivers for PM out and about someplace ???

Paul Kurr -- Stockholder Systems, Norcross GA

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 22:18:22 on 92/10/13 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP)
Subject: Serious problem with OS/2 2.0 GA installation on MFM,RLL,ESDI drives
Ref:     Append at 19:44:16 on 92/10/13 GMT (by CMB51 at OS2CUST)

Francis,
You descriebed my home system I'm using the 304 driver too.
I'll try the win31gre tonight, and notify you.

The official answer for this is to rename the int13 driver to ibm506
and use it. (it works , you can try it)(Save the 304 do.)

Geza Szivos
NOVACOR Chemicals  (403)-290-6583 Fax [phone]
NHO-32 801-7th Ave Calgary, Alberta, CANADA T2P 2N6

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 23:29:46 on 92/10/13 GMT (by AMCADM at OS2CUST)
Subject: Install problems on 8580-161

We have an 8580-161 with 12 MB RAM and the 160 MB SCSI hard drive.
OS/2 1.3 was installed on this machine before 2.0 was attempted to be
installed. We have tried at least 5 times to install 2.0. The system
seems to hangup with the hard drive light lit up continuously but
nothing happening. It has sat for 15 mins without any movement. It
seems to be hanging at the transfer of files on disk 2 at
C:\OS2\INSTALL\INSTALL.INI.

What can be causing this problem? I have run the reference diskette
to test the hard drive and it seems fine. Any help would be
appreciated.

Jim Patin, Applied Magnetics Corporation,  805/683-3871 X3520

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 23:32:05 on 92/10/13 GMT (by EDSDCOT3 at DALVMIC3)
Subject: 2.0 INstall WOES
I have a MOD 80 with two partitions with BOOT MGR. In logical drive D:
I have a working copy of 2.0 with LAN SERVER. In Drive C: I had a working
copy of 1.3 & DUAL BOOT with DOS 5. We were using this in a test
distribution of CODE via DLR. The problem is that I tried to update the
C: drive's 1.3 code with 2.0 code with dual boot. Everything loaded ok
but If I boot my C: drive after choosing it from the BOOT menu the
code loads OK until it starts to load the WORKPLACE shell (guess) anyway
after about two minutes of loading approximately 30 seconds after the
screen turns gray and the hour glass appears all disk activity stops
and there it sits. I have again reloaded the code to no avail. Anyone
have any suggestions? I would really like to try and get by without
formating the C: DRIVE as I have a lot of TOOLS EXPRESS code on there.
Don Cothran

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 00:04:02 on 92/10/14 GMT (by AAAF0CY at OS2CUST)
Subject: OS/2 2.00.1 Diskettes unavailable

Does anyone know how to get ahold of 2.00.1 install diskettes? We
have purchased some PS/2 9556's that are loaded with 2.00.1.
Unfortunately, if there is a problem, we cannot re-install OS/2
without some install diskettes and OS/2 2.00 does not work on the new
devices. We have tried to backup the original drive, but files are
open, so you can't back them up. We tried to put another drive in a
machine and XCOPY from C: to D:, but agina, there are files open, so
they won't copy. We cannot boot to OS/2 diskettes, because we don't
have them (da!). Anyone have suggestions on how we can
recreate/duplicate from 1 hard disk to another or how we can get ahold of some
OS/2 2.00.1 install diskettes?

P.S. We tried using the MAKEBOOT utility to create a bootable
diskette, but that requires the install diskettes.

Jim Sauber, MN Mutual

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 00:44:31 on 92/10/14 GMT (by RDEBAY at BCRVMPC1)
Subject: OS/2 2.00.1 Diskettes unavailable
Ref:     Append at 00:04:02 on 92/10/14 GMT (by AAAF0CY at OS2CUST)

  Use the icon to create a utility diskette.  I believe it needs three
formatted diskettes, but don't quote me on it.  You need to use the
backup from the preload and boot off diskette.  If this cannot be
done (DOA harddrive, for example) the preload backup diskettes went
golden on October 2 (+/- a week for fuzzy memory) and are available
from wherever you purchased the machines.  Your SE should have a set
of the diskettes also.

Rick DeBay

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 01:43:20 on 92/10/14 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST)
Subject: on 8580-161
Ref: Append at 23:29:46 on 92/10/13 GMT (by AMCADM at OS2CUST)

Jim,
Two things  to think about,
1.  Check the PN's on your SCSI Adapter, ECA032 or ECA037.  Here is some text
on the subject:  If you have P/N FRU 15F6561, obtain ECA032.  If P/N 64F0124
get ECA027.
2.  If you are installing on one big 160MB partition, OS/2 2.0 sometimes instal
ls slowly, let the computer unit set for a long time before assuming it is
locked or stopped, like a couple of hours.
Good Luck

Mike Long - CARD Iowa State University - PC/LAN Analyst

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 01:58:35 on 92/10/14 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP)
Subject: Serious problem with OS/2 2.0 GA installation on MFM,RLL,ESDI drives
Ref:     Append at 22:18:22 on 92/10/13 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP)

Bad news.
I tried  the win31gre, and FDISK error.
The files on the beta
IBM1FLPY ADD    24090   8-10-92   9:58p
IBM1S506 ADD    13116   8-10-92  10:02p
OS2DASD  DMD    32934   8-12-92  12:26p
Someone broke the code between 304 and 307 and NO-ONE cares to fix it.

Geza Szivos
NOVACOR Chemicals  (403)-290-6583 Fax [phone]
NHO-32 801-7th Ave Calgary, Alberta, CANADA T2P 2N6

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 14:46:30 on 92/10/14 GMT (by USBC238 at OS2CUST)
Subject: !?!?!?
Ref: Append at 21:23:29 on 92/10/13 GMT (by SURS001 at OS2CUST)

Byron,  This is a known problem.  When Extended services are
installed after LAN requester it changes the protocol.ini file in the
IBMCOM subdirectory.  Unless you have a backup of the file or know
what the netbios settings were previous to the install of ES, you
have to reinstall the requester.

Charles Boyce - US Bank, Portland OR

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 16:10:46 on 92/10/14 GMT (by RDEBAY at BCRVMPC1)
Subject: Serious problem with OS/2 2.0 GA installation on MFM,RLL,ESDI drives
Ref:     Append at 01:58:35 on 92/10/14 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP)

  Call the support line.  The problem report should cause an APAR to
be created, which when debugged will then become a defect for develop-
ment.  The only thing you need to do is make sure you explain the
problem clearly and that an APAR should be created.  You need to say
that the older version worked so no one assumes that the controller is
unsupported.
  If you follow the process you are guaranteed to get results.  If you
don't, the problem can fall between the cracks.

Rick DeBay
OS/2 Technical Support

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 17:34:00 on 92/10/14 GMT (by AMCADM at OS2CUST)
..... OS2INST CFORUM modified at 00:35:25 on 92/10/15 GMT (by AMCADM at OS2CUST)
Subject: on 8580-161
Ref: Append at 01:43:20 on 92/10/14 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST)

Hi Mike.

Thanks for your quick reply. We have checked the SCSI adaptor board.
It is FRU 15F6561. I do not understand what you mean by obtaining
ECA032. Could you please explain in more detail?

Why does it take a couple of hours for a 160MB partition? What is
OS/2 doing during this time?

Jim Patin, Applied Magnetics Corporation,  805/683-3871 X3520

Finally was able to get OS/2 installed. However, we can not get the
system to boot. We continue to get errors on reading the CONFIG.SYS
file. Tried to fix it per the instructions in the install manual and
still will not work. We have to boot with a DOS 5.0 diskette to get
access to the hard disk. What could be wrong?

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 19:04:23 on 92/10/14 GMT (by L503 at MARTLINK)
Subject: kfglsaklkl;

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----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 20:22:12 on 92/10/14 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC)
Subject: 8514/A to XGA upgrade: approach?
Ref:     Append at 21:21:58 on 92/10/13 GMT (by NBHOBAZ at OS2CUST)

(warning: I have not tried this)
I can think of two ways to do this.
1) Use selective install to switch to VGA mode, install the XGA card,
   start the machine, and use selective install to switch to XGA mode.
   This is probably the safest way to do it, but the results while in
   VGA mode are pretty ugly.

2) Use selective install to switch directly to XGA mode.  Shutdown
   and power off to install the XGA board.  You should (?) come up
   fine in XGA mode.

Either way, make a system backup first! (better safe than sorry...).

Nathan Davis - IBM FSC Houston

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 16:48:54 on 92/10/15 GMT (by DEV0299 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Serious problem with OS/2 2.0 GA installation on MFM,RLL,ESDI drives
Ref: Append at 16:10:46 on 92/10/14 GMT (by RDEBAY at BCRVMPC1)

Rick, Am using ALR and trying to install 2.00.1 to IDE fixed disk.
I submitted a SPR to IBM today and was going thru messages when I say your
name. Matbe you can find out why it crashes.

Jeff Bakst
Softsmiths Systems

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 17:25:36 on 92/10/15 GMT (by AAAF0CY at OS2CUST)
Subject: OS/2 2.00.1 Diskettes unavailable
Ref: Append at 00:44:31 on 92/10/14 GMT (by RDEBAY at BCRVMPC1)

Thanks for the info. I created the utility disks a machine, "worked
like a charm"!!!!

Jim Sauber, MN Mutual

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 19:01:23 on 92/10/15 GMT (by RDEBAY at BCRVMPC1)
Subject: Serious problem with OS/2 2.0 GA installation on MFM,RLL,ESDI drives
Ref:     Append at 16:48:54 on 92/10/15 GMT (by DEV0299 at OS2CUST)

  Jeff - If this 2.00.01 is the preload code, this was only tested on
the machines that were being preloaded.  The only non-IBM systems I
know of that are being preloaded are some Dells.  If you can get GA on
the system, the service pack is due RRSN and would give you a higher
level of code than the preload.  If the support line can't get GA
to install on your system, a subset of the GA install disks are being
prepared with the fixes to date.  This should get you to a point where
you can install GA.

Rick DeBay

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 02:45:43 on 92/10/16 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST)
Subject: on 8580-161
Ref: Append at 17:34:00 on 92/10/14 GMT (by AMCADM at OS2CUST)

ECA032 means you call IBM Service and they will arrange to replace the ROMS,
or fix your SCSI adapter for free.
There is a problem with OS/2 and large partitions, in that OS/2 tends to slow
down or stall.  It has been reported to IBM and I beleive they have fixed it.
I would guess the problem's fix is in the Service Pack which is supposed to be
released very soon.

Mike Long - CARD Iowa State University - PC/LAN Analyst

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 13:20:50 on 92/10/16 GMT (by CMB51 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Serious problem with OS/2 2.0 GA installation on MFM,RLL,ESDI drives
Ref: Append at 01:58:35 on 92/10/14 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP)

I totally agree.  The last working IBM1S506.ADD driver was 6.304 version.
All later versions do not work.  Even the new beta with 32 bit graphics engine
and winos2 3.1 support still carries over the defective version of this driver.
Somebody at IBM goofed when moving from 6.304 to GA, what caused trouble
installing GA for large number of customers, and instead of acknowledging the
error and backing out the faulty code, still insists on the bad driver.
I am very frustrated with this kind of attitude, sometimes to a point of
writing a letter to somebody, if nothing else seems to make IBM development
team care about customers.
Francis.

Francis Rynkiewicz, IIN userid - CMB51.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 15:23:17 on 92/10/16 GMT (by RDEBAY at BCRVMPC1)
..... OS2INST CFORUM modified at 21:26:44 on 92/10/17 GMT (by RDEBAY at BCRVMPC1)
Subject: Serious problem with OS/2 2.0 GA installation on MFM,RLL,ESDI drives
Ref:     Append at 13:20:50 on 92/10/16 GMT (by CMB51 at OS2CUST)

  The way development finds out about these problems is by people
calling the support line.  Call and open a problem.  Explain that the
only fix is the old IBM1S506 from the 6.304 beta.  An APAR will be
created and once the problem is debugged a defect will be sent to
development.  Chances are a private fix will be sent to you to test.
I encourage you to report all problems through this process so that
we can make this as bug free a product as possible.

| Problem reports can also be submitted through other channels,
| such as Compuserve (only one example).  A forum, however, is not
| considered a problem report channel (os2inst cforum, for example).

Rick DeBay
OS/2 Technical Support

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 16:48:36 on 92/10/16 GMT (by IL09039 at OS2CUST)
Subject: the Welcome wagon...

A few days ago I submitted a question about how one could recover from a
catastrophic failue of an OS/2 HPFS-occupied hard drive.  The mechanism
for preparing and restoring a dead hard drive wasn't too apparent to me
even though I have used OS/2 since the first of May.  Several nice replies
appeared after the entry and a couple of references were made.  Then a
couple of days later I noted that a stack of Model 56's that had just
arrived with OS/2 preinstalled each had a nifty little book and disk set
that enable one to do just what I had asked about a few days before!

I purloined a copy for my own machine and found that a new item called the
"Welcome Folder" contains an ICON driven system for generating the sought-
after utility boot disk.  Several other nice functions are in the same
folder and I suggest that others obtain a copy as well.

This folder should be made known and available to all licensed OS/2 users
since it contains functions that most technical support people consider
essential for the maintenance of any operating system, large or small.
OS/2 is a nice system but those essentials must be there to gain
better user trust and acceptance.

....

Al Winfrey - Indy

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 18:00:07 on 92/10/16 GMT (by CMB51 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Serious problem with OS/2 2.0 GA installation on MFM,RLL,ESDI drives
Ref: Append at 15:23:17 on 92/10/16 GMT (by RDEBAY at BCRVMPC1)

Do you mean to say that the OS/2 development team actually does not read
messages on OS/2 BBS that report problems?  Or if someone actually reads, then
just ignores it, if the problem was not also submitted to the tech support
section by going through all that ordeal with problem report screens?
Do you mean that dedicated OS/2 users have been pounding their keyboards on
this OS/2 BBS for a half a year not even realizing that IBM development team
does not care or pay any attention to their problems?
Francis.

Francis Rynkiewicz, IIN userid - CMB51.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 19:30:21 on 92/10/16 GMT (by NAAO3IY at HONE85)
Subject: Serious problem with OS/2 2.0 GA installation on MFM,RLL,ESDI drives
Ref: Append at 18:00:07 on 92/10/16 GMT (by CMB51 at OS2CUST)

The MESSAGES on this board do not go into the official IBM bug-reporting
channel.  The Submit-an-OS/2-Problem-Report items do.  (For myself,
having tried both and having access to both, I prefer to open an ETR,
but that's on IBMLink itself, rather than this board.)

The message boards are for asking for help, discussing philosophy,
suggesting improvements, and talking about sports results <g>.

John Kennedy, Hoechst Celanese (The OS/2 Hobbit)

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 22:34:22 on 92/10/16 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE86)
Subject: Serious problem with OS/2 2.0 GA installation on MFM,RLL,ESDI drives
Ref: Append at 15:23:17 on 92/10/16 GMT (by RDEBAY at BCRVMPC1)

Rick,

I open an APAR on the IBM1S506.add file back in the early days of GA.  The
fix creates a problem when someone has multiple drives in a machine, I also
opend a fix on this.  I later appended to the ETR that was used to open the
second problem two work arounds, the APAR was immediately closed as solved.
I have spent a large amount of time on the NSC BBS(one helluva lot more time
than I think IBM spent trying to solve it by the way) and a little on this
board helping folks install around this problem.  How many times does the
problem have to be called to someones attention to get the damned thing
fixed.

Okay there are two curse words in here, now we will probably be like prodigy
and it will get returned to sender.

Jack Hiatt  Marc Life  Atlanta Ga.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 03:40:29 on 92/10/17 GMT (by DEV0580 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Gateway 486 Local Bus DX2-66
Ref: Append at 16:40:15 on 92/10/08 GMT (by DAPOLLOC at SFOVMIC1)

More than likely it is the ATI card. Not the LB itself.
You could have Gateway send you the ET4000 version of their
LB Video Card until they get the problem fixed. If they
will. Or until ATI comes out with proper OS/2 drivers
for the card

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 12:52:49 on 92/10/17 GMT (by IL12431 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Install Fail on Disk 1

I'm getting the old failure on disk 1 install, due to how the install
routine fails to correctly interpret my hard drive (IDE).

I've forgotten the mods needed for the CONFIG.SYS *.ADD files.  Does
anyone have this handy?

Dave Scheffer, ARGO Data Resource Corp.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 16:42:03 on 92/10/17 GMT (by ABLI001 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Serious problem with OS/2 2.0 GA installation on MFM,RLL,ESDI drives
Ref: Append at 18:00:07 on 92/10/16 GMT (by CMB51 at OS2CUST)

The fact that there is a seperate way to open a problem should not be a
surprise. It is logical that there should be different levels of
communication, from the casual discussions in forums, to the lockstep
ETR and the tracked APAR.
 Even for mainframe products we have two levels of support, the ETR
and the ASKQ. I try to start the ETR process only when I have researched
all the messages, have a dump or can repeat the process for a trace, and
feel that it is important enough to spend the time going through the
20-questions game that sometimes results. The ASKQ facility is a "pay for"
service so I am freer about what I do there since we've already bought it
and might as well use it.
 But I can agree with you that there isn't quite enough response here on
the BBS, even taking it with a grain of salt, to justify it's being
touted in the documentation being sent out as the official support BBS.
I will just drop back to IBMLINK to start an ETR on anything that I really
want an answer on. As of yet, I still have no idea what the publication
numbers of documentation on writing IFS drivers are...but I don't think
I can start a problem report on DOC since there is very little doc to
report bugs on. So I may be stuck with this BBS. Or I may conclude that
IBM is going to keep OS2 a tightly proprietary system and it won't be
worth writing any software for it since only a few shops will run it.

->Rich Corbett; ABC Liquors, Inc., Orlando, FL              (NASPA: CORBRIC7)

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 17:54:58 on 92/10/17 GMT (by RDEBAY at BCRVMPC1)
Subject: Serious problem with OS/2 2.0 GA installation on MFM,RLL,ESDI drives
Ref:     Append at 22:34:22 on 92/10/16 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE86)

  Append the APAR numbers here and I will look into it.  Also append the
associated PMR numbers, although if the PMR was closed for longer than
28 days it will be purged by the database.
  If you ever have a problem closed, and you do not agree, you can
demand that it stay open.  What SHOULD have happened is that when the
APAR was closed, whoever was working the PMR should have called you
and notified you.  Then either the problem record would be closed, or
you would ask that the problem stay open because your bug was not fixed.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 21:49:51 on 92/10/17 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE82)
Subject: Install Fail on Disk 1
Ref: Append at 12:52:49 on 92/10/17 GMT (by IL12431 at OS2CUST)

Dave,

The easiest solution, not the fastest running though, is to replace
IBM1S506.ADD with IBMINT13.I13.  Just rename the IBM1S506 and copy INT13 to
it.  At the reboot after disk 5or6 which ever it is.  Reboot using the
Install Disk and DIsk#1 and do the same on your boot drive.

This is my 2000th posting of this information since GA.  When will IBM fix
the install procedure, and the bug.

Jack Hiatt  Marc Life  Atlanta Ga.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 21:50:17 on 92/10/17 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE82)
Subject: Serious problem with OS/2 2.0 GA installation on MFM,RLL,ESDI drives
Ref: Append at 17:54:58 on 92/10/17 GMT (by RDEBAY at BCRVMPC1)

I don't have the time to do IBM's research for them, I've spent too damn many
hours helping folks install the product around the problem.   There are
probably at least a dozen APARs listed that revolve around the IBM1S506
problem, and the last time I looked not one of them indicated that the
problem was really solved.  And from what I am hearing on the beta program it
isn't.  When I originally entered the problem, which was done thru the
Support Facility on this BBS it was not responded to for over 30 days, but
I had also reported it thru the normal IBMLink ETR procedures as when I saw
no inidcation that the problems were being worked from here decided to try
the other.  If you have access to ServiceLInk go to SIS and search for
IBM1S506 just see how the APARs are closed.

But really I don't want to chase what should have happened, all I want to see
is that the problem is corrected and that new users can install the product
without having to jump thru a lot of needless hoops.

Jack Hiatt  Marc Life  Atlanta Ga.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 21:00:14 on 92/10/18 GMT (by RDEBAY at BCRVMPC1)
Subject: Serious problem with OS/2 2.0 GA installation on MFM,RLL,ESDI drives
Ref:     Append at 21:50:17 on 92/10/17 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE82)

  I have reopened APAR PJ03925, I hope this is the APAR you mentioned in
your previous appends.  If you wish to update the problem (the
associated PMR has long been purged from the system) please call the
support line, use IBMLINK, or whatever method is easiest for you.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 13:22:45 on 92/10/19 GMT (by SKALTER at ATLVMIC1)
Subject: OS/2 V2.00.1

I noticed in a previous questions that the diskette for OS/2 V2.00.1
should be available to the dealers and SEs.  I am an SE in the Fort
Lauderdale branch and I have been unable to find those diskettes
anywhere.  Could you tell me how I could get a copy of those
diskettes?

Thanks for the help,
Shirley Kalter

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 13:58:18 on 92/10/19 GMT (by CMB51 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Serious problem with OS/2 2.0 GA installation on MFM,RLL,ESDI drives
Ref: Append at 22:34:22 on 92/10/16 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE86)

I totally agree.  I also opened an APAR with IBM tech support on this.
I can't believe this is happening!  Someone at IBM broke a piece of good code
just in time to go GA and has been stubbornly refusing to acknowledge this for
the past half year!  To almost looks like an effort to damage OS/2's success.
Are there any undercover competition employees among IBM team?
Francis.

Francis Rynkiewicz, IIN userid - CMB51.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 14:30:40 on 92/10/19 GMT (by CMB51 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Serious problem with OS/2 2.0 GA installation on MFM,RLL,ESDI drives
Ref: Append at 19:30:21 on 92/10/16 GMT (by NAAO3IY at HONE85)

I did submit the problem report to IBM, PMR # 1X434,916, like many other OS/2
users were doing for the past half year.  Just as you see from this BBS, all
seems to be mysteriously ignored, since the broken code is still in the new
32GRE/Winos231 beta release.  As if someone at IBM is working hard on giving
OS/2 bad name and preventing it from succeeding.
Francis.

Francis Rynkiewicz, IIN userid - CMB51.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 17:23:05 on 92/10/19 GMT (by IL54488 at OS2CUST)
Subject: LAN REQUESTER AND LAA

How do you install OS/2 LAN requester with a locally administered address?The
installation program does not ask for a token ring address, only for a PU name
and the domain name. I need to have each PC running OS/2 2.0 able to access oth
er midrange and minis by their T/R address.
Any help will be appreciated. THANKS.

J.-C. Vaugeois  [phone]

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 18:05:03 on 92/10/19 GMT (by RDEBAY at BCRVMPC1)
Subject: Serious problem with OS/2 2.0 GA installation on MFM,RLL,ESDI drives
Ref:     Append at 21:50:17 on 92/10/17 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE82)

  My original append must have gotten munched.  Here it is again.

************************************************************************
      OS2INST CFORUM appended at 17:00:14 on 92/10/18 EDT (by RDEBAY at
Subject: Serious problem with OS/2 2.0 GA installation on MFM,RLL,ESDI d
Ref:     Append at 21:50:17 on 92/10/17 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE82)

  I have reopened APAR PJ03925, I hope this is the APAR you mentioned in
your previous appends.  If you wish to update the problem (the
associated PMR has long been purged from the system) please call the
support line, use IBMLINK, or whatever method is easiest for you.
************************************************************************

Rick DeBay

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 22:17:01 on 92/10/19 GMT (by THRUMD at SYDVM1)
Subject: Serious problem with OS/2 2.0 GA installation on MFM,RLL,ESDI drives
Ref:     Append at 14:30:40 on 92/10/19 GMT (by CMB51 at OS2CUST)

The reason it is still broken in the GRWIN beta was explained
somewhere else (can't remember exactly where).   The base code for
the beta was the version of OS/2 built for preload on new systems.
It only had fixes applied to it that affected those machines
that it was to be installed on.  The IBM1S506 problem did not affect
any of these preload machines, so the fixes for the GA problem were not
included.

(Not trying to make excuses, just passing on information...).

Dave

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 22:39:09 on 92/10/19 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE85)
Subject: Serious problem with OS/2 2.0 GA installation on MFM,RLL,ESDI drives
Ref: Append at 22:17:01 on 92/10/19 GMT (by THRUMD at SYDVM1)

Dave,
This problem should have been corrected by slipstreaming the correction into
the install disk 4 months ago.  The install procedure has to be fixed.

Jack Hiatt  Marc Life  Atlanta Ga.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 00:04:46 on 92/10/20 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST)
Subject: LAN REQUESTER AND LAA
Ref: Append at 17:23:05 on 92/10/19 GMT (by IL54488 at OS2CUST)

You should be able to set the LAA in the LAN Adapter Protocol Support configura
tion.  If you look in the LAN Services folder, start up the LAN configuration,

and in there you should be able to configure the LAN adapter.  The LAA
can be set at the 802.2 level, or at the adapter level.  When ES is installed,
it automatically puts your LAA at the 802.2 level, so that is where we run our
LAA.
This assumes you installed the install services with LAN Requester.  If not,
you may need the LAN Requester disks to start up the LAN Requester install
program.

Mike Long - CARD Iowa State University - PC/LAN Analyst

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 13:34:02 on 92/10/21 GMT (by JPICCOL at OS2CUST)
Subject: OS/2 1.3 Program Properties (Open when system is started) in 2.0

In version 1.3 I had programs "Open when system is started",  I can't turn
off this property in 2.0.  My startup.cmd is empty and my startup folder
is empty.  I tried to simulate 1.3 under 2.0 to turn off startup.
"open - Settings did not contain that option" HELP!

Karl Brosky

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 14:32:08 on 92/10/21 GMT (by NBRINSON at AUSVM1)
Subject: Installation Disk Errors
Ref:

While trying to re-install OS/2 2.0 (DOS/Windows Upgrade Version, P/N
10G5999) I get the following error messages

OS/2 !! SYS02025
OS/2 !! SYS02027

and the system hangs.  The system is a clone motherboard with AMI BIOS
which displays the following identification at power up

40-0300-001109-00101111-121291-UNICHIP-8

Because of file corruption problems, I was attempting to completely remove
all files and the original partion and start all over again.  I've checked
out the system with QAPlus and Spinrite and there don't seem to be any
hardware problems.  MS-DOS 5.0 is now installed and works fine.  However
when I try to follow the process described in Chapter 3 of the OS/2
Installion Guide, I get the above error messages and the system hangs.

It might be relevant that on the initial installion a few weeks ago, the
first time I tried to boot from the OS/2 Installion Diskette, I got the
same error messages.  I then did a Reset and on the second attempt, it
booted up OK and I was able to perform the original Dual Boot installation.

Any insight or help would be appreciated.

Neal Brinson   IBM Corp.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 14:41:06 on 92/10/21 GMT (by HDEVORE at BOULDER)
Subject: Re: OS/2 1.3 Program Properties (Open when system is started) in 2.0
Ref:     Append at 13:34:02 on 92/10/21 GMT (by JPICCOL at OS2CUST)

>In version 1.3 I had programs "Open when system is started",  I can't turn
>off this property in 2.0.

There is no such property in OS/2 2.0, rather it tries to recreate
things just as they were when you shutdown.  Anything you have running
at shutdown will be restarted.  So, if you don't want something to be
started for you manually close it before you do your shutdown.

Hal DeVore                       Space Station DMS Software Development
HDEVORE at HOUVMSCC                       [e-mail]

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 14:59:30 on 92/10/21 GMT (by KENKAHN at PKSMRVM)
Subject: Installation Disk Errors
Ref:     Append at 14:32:08 on 92/10/21 GMT (by NBRINSON at AUSVM1)

Those messages basically translate to "Non System Disk, please ReBOOT".  It
was decided for OS/2 V2 to change the text to message numbers to allow for
NLS considerations.  The idea was to document the specific text for each NLS
version of OS/2 V2.  Unfortunately, that documentation is hard to find (if it
exists at all).  There's a lot of discussion on this internally, including
what to do instead.  Below is the description of each message:

 SYS1475: The file OS2BOOT cannot be found.
 SYS2025: A disk read error occurred.
 SYS2027: Insert a system diskette and restart the system.

Kenneth Kahn    Staff of IBM Fellow: IBM Personal/370    Poughkeepsie, NY
Internet: [e-mail]       IBMMAIL: USIB25P9 at IBMMAIL

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 15:45:21 on 92/10/21 GMT (by PERSHNG at YKTVMH)
Subject: Re: OS/2 1.3 Program Properties (Open when system is started) in 2.0
Ref:     Append at 14:41:06 on 92/10/21 GMT (by HDEVORE at BOULDER)

No, Hal -- this isn't what Karl is experiencing.  If you have "open when
system is started" applications on a 1.3 system and you then install 2.0
over the 1.3 system, then these same apps will still be marked as "open
when system is started" -- this is independent of STARTUP.CMD, the
Startup folder, and whatever was running as of the last Shutdown.  This
was discussed on the internal FORUMs back when 2.0 first GA'd, and I
think that the "fix" was to edit OS2.INI and delete some-or-other
notation left over from the 1.3 "open when..." option.  I don't know
whether of not there are any OS2.INI editors out there (similar to the
internal tools).  (Of course, the real fix is to remove the "open
when..." notation on 1.3 *before* installing 2.0, but it's too late for
Karl to do this...)

John A. Pershing Jr.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 15:59:31 on 92/10/21 GMT (by ABLI001 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Installation Disk Errors
Ref: Append at 14:59:30 on 92/10/21 GMT (by KENKAHN at PKSMRVM)

NLS is hard to meet in the few bytes that boot code must fit into,
especially since the language option won't have been set at that point.
How about a /NLS: option to go with the FORMAT and SYS commands
so the text language can be selected when the disk is built.
This should of course default to the language in affect at the time
that it is run so that it would normally not need to be given.
It would also be nice to have a /bootcode: or /exec:file option to let us
load a com file to be executed instead of just displaying the 'non-system disk'
message. An example of what is intended is the public domain program
called BOOTHRU (or BT) which boots the C: drive instead if the data disk
is booted. Unfortunately it is old and only works with 360k 5.25" diskettes.
So formatting with some option giving alternate bootcode or a program to
execute would let this type of old idea be resurrected as a routine to be
executed instead of displaying a dumb message.

->Rich Corbett; ABC Liquors, Inc., Orlando, FL              (NASPA: CORBRIC7)

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 02:25:11 on 92/10/22 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Re: OS/2 1.3 Program Properties (Open when system is started) in 2.0
Ref: Append at 15:45:21 on 92/10/21 GMT (by PERSHNG at YKTVMH)

Another easy way to cure it is to delete the object, and then re-create it.

Mike Long - CARD Iowa State University - PC/LAN Analyst

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 13:03:09 on 92/10/22 GMT (by DALNK03 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Error installing CSD

While installing the CSD on a Gateway 2000 25mhz 386 machine w/ 4meg memory
and Speedstar Video adapter, I received the following error after inserting
the Video device drivers disk 1:
  "An error occurred while completing User Exit"
  "A:\FIX\OS2\PRODUCT.EXE"

After pressing Enter, the message "Corrective service completed successfully"
was displayed.  But when I rebooted the machine, I got the OS/2 logo then the
screen went blank, and then the machine locked up.  I was never able to get it
to boot.
While the screen was blank, it looked like OS/2 was trying to do something
with the video and then the cursor redisplayed in the top left corner and
then the machine locked.   The OS/2 partition was formatted with HPFS, and
there was about 15meg free disk space.   Any suggestions?

Pat Malneritch, Delta Air Lines

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 13:57:09 on 92/10/22 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8)
Subject: Error installing CSD
Ref:     Append at 13:03:09 on 92/10/22 GMT (by DALNK03 at OS2CUST)

Pat,

  I assume by "CSD" you mean the new Service Pack for OS/2 2.0?
I'm not sure what happened but I suggest that you call the support
number (800-237-5511) for help. Use your company's IBM customer
number when you call.

Stephen Poole
OS/2 Service and Support - IBM Austin, TX

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 13:59:16 on 92/10/22 GMT (by SSIA005 at OS2CUST)
Subject: OS/2 V2.0 Service Pack Fixes????

I am the IBM SE for this customer. They heard that there is a new OS/2 V2.0
Service pack (a set of Fixes,code  for OS/2 V2.0) available. I asked around
at IBM and was told that my customer could download these files thru IBMLINK
(with OS2BBS support) or COMPUSERV. It is not here on OS2BBS. Do you know how
my customer can get these files???? Thanks for letting me know.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 14:25:47 on 92/10/22 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8)
Subject: Error installing CSD
Ref:     Append at 13:03:09 on 92/10/22 GMT (by DALNK03 at OS2CUST)

Pat,

  Just found out that this is a known problem and Boca is working
on a fix for the "final" version of the Service Pack. Unfortunately,
your options seem to be to wait for the new one or reinstall GA.
One person in support did report successfully getting around the
problem (temporarily) by booting off the install diskette and then
individually unpacking the VGA files from the video diskette. This
may be worth a try but no guarentee it will work. You will need to
make sure that you find all of the packed files for your type of
video and that they are unpacked into the correct directories.
Sorry I can't be more specific about which files.

  Even if this does work, I would suggest that when the "final"
version of the Service Pack is out that you reapply it to your
system, just in case you did miss some files needed.

Good Luck!

Stephen Poole
OS/2 Service and Support - IBM Austin, TX

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 14:32:12 on 92/10/22 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8)
Subject: OS/2 V2.0 Service Pack Fixes????
Ref:     Append at 13:59:16 on 92/10/22 GMT (by SSIA005 at OS2CUST)

To the IBM SE asking,

  Because of minor problems the Service Pack was not released to the
BBS'es. See the OS2MISC CFORUM for more information. It has been
made available to SE's on the IBM internal OS2CSD disk for downloading
and giving to customers. However, a new problem with installing video
drivers on some systems has been found and it is highly suggested
that everybody wait for the "final" version of the Service Pack.

Stephen Poole
OS/2 Service and Support - IBM Austin, TX

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 14:51:06 on 92/10/22 GMT (by RDEBAY at BCRVMPC1)
Subject: OS/2 V2.0 Service Pack Fixes????
Ref:     Append at 14:32:12 on 92/10/22 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8)

  The service pack was held and service.exe was altered to prevent
installation of the pack over preload and beta versions.  While it
was being held to add this feature, a problem was found with some
SVGA installations.  If you have installed the service pack, and it
finished normally, you are fine.  If you haven't, wait for the new
one which will be out RRRRRRRRSN.

Rick DeBay
OS/2 Technical Support

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 15:06:06 on 92/10/22 GMT (by SSIA005 at OS2CUST)
Subject: OS/2 V2.0 Service Pack Fixes????

I don't want to appear ignorant, but what does RRRRRRRRSN mean?  How long -
hours, days, weeks or months?

Thanks for the quick response to the questions.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 15:06:24 on 92/10/22 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)
Subject: OS/2 V2.0 Service Pack Fixes????
Ref: Append at 13:59:16 on 92/10/22 GMT (by SSIA005 at OS2CUST)

The Service Pak has NOT been released externally, so it is not available
on this BBS, Compuserve, etc.  As soon as the files are released, they
will be available for download.  For more information, you might want to
refer to the discussion in OS2MISC CForum about the Service Pak.
As soon as it is available, I'm sure there will be an append in that forum.
We will also post an announcement in News & Announcements on this
system just as soon as the files are ready.

Brent Allen - IBM LAN Systems Integration Services     Southlake, TX

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 15:59:46 on 92/10/22 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8)
Subject: Error installing CSD
Ref:     Append at 14:25:47 on 92/10/22 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8)

Pat,

  Just a bit more information. The person who did get around the
PRODUCT.EXE problem installing the Service Pack (and has been used
successfully by two other support reps. here), booted the install
diskette, then unpacked the following from the video diskette:

a:vga
a:winvga
a:dspres.dl_ (thats "dee el underscore")
a:ibmvga32.dl_ (underscore again)

  This has worked for VGA, not sure about SVGA. Will post more
here if I find out any more about this "work around".

If you try it, let me know how it turns out for you.

Stephen Poole
OS/2 Service and Support - IBM Austin, TX

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 17:00:36 on 92/10/22 GMT (by DALNK03 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Error installing CSD
Ref: Append at 14:25:47 on 92/10/22 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8)

Thanks for looking into that for me.  I appreciate the help!

Pat Malneritch, Delta Air Lines

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 22:44:53 on 92/10/22 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST)
Subject: SYS1719 on C;\os2\mdos\v8514a.sys with Service Pack

I just installed the Service Pack that I received from my SE and when I
boot I receive:

SYS1719 on C:\os2\mdos\v8514a.sys

???????

Lionel Dyck - Rockwell International, Information Systems Center

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 17:08:38 on 92/10/23 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8)
Subject: SYS1719 on C;\os2\mdos\v8514a.sys with Service Pack
Ref:     Append at 22:44:53 on 92/10/22 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST)

Sorry Lionel,

  It has been found out that the Service Pack has some problems
with certain video types. There is not much you can do except
wait for the corrected Service Pack or reinstall GA from scratch.

  Some people have been able to recover by booting from the install
disk then unpacking and restoring the original video drivers. Other
than that, there is no other fix or work around that I know of.

  Calling the Support Line won't help much either. They will basically
tell you the same thing. You may want to keep an eye on the OS2MISC
or "OS/2 Miscellaneous" forum for updates on the Service Pack from Irv.

Stephen Poole
OS/2 Service and Support - IBM Austin, TX

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 21:18:17 on 92/10/23 GMT (by IL04688 at HONE84)
Subject: SYS3176 with Service Pack
Ref: Append at 17:08:38 on 92/10/23 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8)

We installed the service pack on a PS/2 70-121 which had been
partitioned as FAT.  Print Screen in a DOS Full Screen session
fails with a SYS3176.  The same print screen operation works
fine in a DOS Window.

Leo Tornow, Northwest Pipeline, SLC UT

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 19:08:42 on 92/10/26 GMT (by ECOL007 at OS2CUST)
..... OS2INST CFORUM modified at 17:46:10 on 92/10/27 GMT (by ECOL007 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Serious problem with OS/2 2.0 GA installation on MFM,RLL,ESDI drives
Ref: Append at 17:15:53 on 92/10/26 GMT (by AABA0EM at OS2CUST)

I would be most interested also, if this driver problem ever gets resolved.

Dick Heider, Ecolab, St Paul, MN

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 21:08:34 on 92/10/26 GMT (by IL78165 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Disk space for SE, LS and ES.

I have a user with a PS/2 55 with 60 meg hard disk. He needs to run LAN
Requester 2.0 and Extended Services 1.0. He is out of disk space with just
these packages loaded and no user files. He wants the OS/2 2.0 extras since he
is just getting started with OS/2, needs the LAN for file sharing (obviously),
and the ES for 3270 emulation and ASII emulation. Does anyone know what and how
I can move some of the productivity, help, information and any other files to
the server without him loosing thing from his workplace shell. I have not
installed the database server. Thanks for any help.

Clay Little (ITT DEFENSE)

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 23:34:03 on 92/10/26 GMT (by IL04688 at HONE85)
Subject: Disk space for SE, LS and ES.
Ref: Append at 21:08:34 on 92/10/26 GMT (by IL78165 at OS2CUST)

First Question:  Does he need Database Mgr ?
I find that when I leave out that one component I can get the
total size with 8 mb for swapper down to 52 meg.

Second Question:  Does he have windows apps ?
We have only a handful of users running things like power-point.
While I would hate to leave out win-support, 4.5 meg is a big
temptation.

Third Question:  Does he need the Enhanced Editor, and all of
the applets.  "Terminal" and "Graph" were two of the first to go
here.  I wish I could easily leave out "Spreadsheet" and some
others as well.  Nice as you may think them, they don't go with
our standard suite of apps.

Lastly:  The books in the information folder are very easily
redirected to a LAN drive.

I've heard that much of Comm-Mgr can be moved to the LAN, but
I don't know which exact files.  Anyone else like to jump in here?

Leo Tornow, Northwest Pipeline, SLC UT

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 16:29:45 on 92/10/27 GMT (by CMB51 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Serious problem with OS/2 2.0 GA installation on MFM,RLL,ESDI drives
Ref: Append at 16:59:12 on 92/10/26 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE84)

Does anyone on this forum know the business address of Lee Reiswig?
Is he still in charge?
IBM support guys did not seem to respond yet to my inquiry.
Francis.

Francis Rynkiewicz, IIN userid - CMB51.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 19:46:07 on 92/10/27 GMT (by HNDERSON at AUSVM8)
Subject: Serious problem with OS/2 2.0 GA installation on MFM,RLL,ESDI drives
Ref:     Append at 16:29:45 on 92/10/27 GMT (by CMB51 at OS2CUST)
Frances, Here is the present status of your problem (APAR)

  Problem being reopened due to discussion with customer on
  OS2INST CFORUM.  Customer appended workaround to PMR, did not
  want problem closed.  A problem still exists in the code!
  Associated PMR has been purged.  Do not close the APAR
  because of this.
  10-20-92..APAR remaining open until customer gets
  service pack r205 which should fix this. If not, a new
  defect will be created.

I know that this does not "fix" the immediate problem but the problem
"IS" being worked.

 __   __      ___      __  __   _   _
|  |_|  |    /   \    |  \|  | | |./ / Hank Henderson HNDERSON at AUSVM8
|   _   |   / _~_ \  Sincerely |  . < Staff OSS to OS/2 BBS (TEAMOS2)
|__| |__|  /_/   \_\  |__|\__| |_| \_\ Tie:8-793-8647  Austin, Texas
                                       LNK1SM7 @ IBMLINK - OS/2 BBS
Please do something..! Lead, follow or get out of the way.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 20:28:50 on 92/10/27 GMT (by USBC238 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Disk space for SE, LS and ES.
Ref: Append at 23:34:03 on 92/10/26 GMT (by IL04688 at HONE85)

After much, and I mean much moving around, I was able to get base
services, Comm Mgr with 2 host sessions, and LAN requester on a 32 MB
C: partition (1MB Free).  Swapper is on a 28MB D: partition.  On the
file server, I have all the apps, help, bitmaps, and windows code. By
editing config.sys to change libpath, path, and dpath users have a
fully functioning system.

The reason for a 32MB partition is because of company standards set
two years ago, which management does not want changed.

I am able to do a boot with a RPL disk and do an unattended install
in about 45 minutes.  This includes formating the c: partition to
remove the 1.3 code.

I posted an append on one of these forums (I forget which one) a few
months ago with an explanation of how I did all this.  It is
convoluted, but works.

Charles Boyce - US Bank, Portland OR

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 00:24:19 on 92/10/28 GMT (by WZ00887 at OS2CUST)
Subject: DOS full screen performance (eg QPRO4)

After a struggle, OS2 is in, seemingly OK.  Its performance doesn't live up to
some of the reviews.  For example:
  load Borland QPRO4 in MSDOS 5.0 takes 13 sec versus 19 in OS2 full screen
  load a spreadsheet takes 5.3 seconds under dos 5.0, 12.0 sec under OS2
If that shouldn't be, where in the sessions config should I look for the most i
mprovement?
Machine is a 386HD 25mhz clone with 8meg of mem and 2 85meg HD's.  VGA has 512k
of video memory.

 Ken Hammer

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 00:26:06 on 92/10/28 GMT (by WZ00887 at OS2CUST)
Subject: DOS session configurations

Where does one find the best descriptions of the parameters in the DOS session
configurations to understand how to fine tune each application?

 Ken Hammer

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 01:07:08 on 92/10/28 GMT (by ABLI001 at OS2CUST)
Subject: DOS session configurations
Ref: Append at 00:26:06 on 92/10/28 GMT (by WZ00887 at OS2CUST)

Hi Ken,
 While the IBMers here may come up with something else; I would refer you
to the redbook GG24-3731 chapter 11. (I guess you didn't like the online
help either.)

->Rich Corbett; ABC Liquors, Inc., Orlando, FL              (NASPA: CORBRIC7)

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 15:23:52 on 92/10/28 GMT (by CMB51 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Serious problem with OS/2 2.0 GA installation on MFM,RLL,ESDI drives
Ref: Append at 19:46:07 on 92/10/27 GMT (by HNDERSON at AUSVM8)

If you refer to the CSD from IBM that is being shipped to me, as a result of my
opening of still another PMR on IBMLINK ETR,  our hope is still in vain.
I was appended to my problem on ETR that that CSD contains IBM1S506.ADD
dated 9-09-92.  Prior to that I reported to IBM on that same PMR that I already
tested that version.  It is as defective as previous fixes.  Apparently nobody
at IBM ETR tech support cares to read our responses!
At this point, the last correct version of IBM1S506.ADD still remains 6.304!
It would make logical sense to reinstate 6.306 version,  would it not?
Simple as that!  The most logical fix is IBM1S506.ADD version 6.304, the last
working version.  Somebody at IBM OS/2 support must be really working hard to
damage OS/2 image just in time for GA edition and keep refusing to correct it
for the next half year!
Francis.

Francis Rynkiewicz, IIN userid - CMB51.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 16:33:04 on 92/10/28 GMT (by NAAO3IY at HONE85)
Subject: DOS full screen performance (eg QPRO4)
Ref: Append at 00:24:19 on 92/10/28 GMT (by WZ00887 at OS2CUST)

If merely loading the spreadsheet is slow (assuming you aren't
doing other work on the system -- multitasking obviously
doesn't give you more CPUs), the first thing that comes to
mind is the size of your disk cache.

John Kennedy, Hoechst Celanese (The OS/2 Hobbit)

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 20:20:28 on 92/10/28 GMT (by HNDERSON at AUSVM8)
..... OS2INST CFORUM modified at 03:25:39 on 92/10/30 GMT (by HNDERSON at AUSVM8)
Subject: Serious problem with OS/2 2.0 GA installation on MFM,RLL,ESDI drives
Ref:     Append at 15:23:52 on 92/10/28 GMT (by CMB51 at OS2CUST)
Frances, IBM is admitting that there is a "defect" that is why the APAR is
still open.  The APAR will remain "OPEN" till you receive a fix that you
say fixes your problem.  They said that the fix would be in SP205, I don't
know that that is the Service Pack that just got put on the BBS or what.
Please get the Service Pack and see if it fixes your problem.  And let us
know.  If it doesn't we will let Boca know.
 __   __      ___      __  __   _   _
|  |_|  |    /   \    |  \|  | | |./ / Hank Henderson HNDERSON at AUSVM8
|   _   |   / _~_ \  Sincerely |  . < Staff OSS to OS/2 BBS (TEAMOS2)
|__| |__|  /_/   \_\  |__|\__| |_| \_\ Tie:8-793-8647  Austin, Texas
                                       LNK1SM7 @ IBMLINK - OS/2 BBS
Please do something..! Lead, follow or get out of the way.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 13:46:36 on 92/10/29 GMT (by IL74545 at OS2CUST)
Subject: ServicePak install on 486SLC2?

I read today's announcement that the OS/2 2.0 ServicePak is now generally
available, but that it won't install on PS/2's with tht 486SLC2 chip.
WHY??
I know there are none of those chips out there yet... or very few anyway.
But, I planned on installing the ServicePak right away.  And, I plan on
upgrading to the 486SLC2 chip as soon as I can get one.  Now I find out
I can't have both.

What's the problem and when will it be fixed?
Thanks.

Bob Cole - United States Auto Club - Speedway, IN

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 14:10:35 on 92/10/29 GMT (by AMBC006 at MARTLINK)
Subject: Service Pak fail 'No Products (SYSLEVEL.??? files) found'

O.K., I might even accept that I erased some files, why do you have to stop
the process ? I went to the alternate method (OS/2 Full Screen the A:SERVICE)
an I get a message that it can't find some C:\OS2\INSTALL\SERVICE.LOG.  What's
next ? This is a Model 80-161 with HPFS (320MB), LS 3.0(Beta), ES 1.0, with
18MB left on the drive.

Michael Suszko, Jr (A. M. Best Co., Oldwick NJ)

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 15:16:25 on 92/10/29 GMT (by IT30862 at VIMVMOA3)

OS2 2.0  and IPL problem

who is able help me ?

I have installed OS2 on a  PS2 80-a21 with video 8515.
All semms work O.K. but, after one day something has been
happened;
When I power on the system the OS2 logo appear on the screen,
then the little clock appear in the centre of the screen
and than the mouse pointer appear.
THAN  NOTING.
System stop and the screen is white with only the mouse pointer.
What I have to do in order to re-start system with OS/2 ?

Tks at all who provide me infos and support

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 15:17:25 on 92/10/29 GMT (by HALLERMA at BCRVMPC1)
Subject: ServicePak install on 486SLC2?
Ref:     Append at 13:46:36 on 92/10/29 GMT (by IL74545 at OS2CUST)

No, it was referring to those PS/2 Model 56/57 SLC2 that had OS/2
2.00.1 already pre-loaded. The ServicePak does not install on top
of 2.00.1, which already has most of the fixes and the 32-bit GRE.

It has nothing to do with the SLC2. This was just an identification
of which 56/57's had 2.00.1 pre-loaded.

                                    Mel Hallerman

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 15:45:49 on 92/10/29 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Service Pack 'features'

I have just installed the service pack and now am experiencing the following
'features':

1.  message SYS1719 for c:\os2\mdos\v8514a.sys
    This message appears twice for the same line in my config.sys
    rem'ing it out seems to cause no problems

2.  Win-os2 full screen 'feature'
    When opening the Win-OS2 full screen - no problem
    Switch back to OS/2 desktop and then
    Return to Win-OS2 full screen and only have a C:> displayed
      and unable to do anything but Ctrl-ESC back to the desktop

3.  In any Win-OS2 session the mouse is jumping around like it had too
    much caffine and occasionally disappears for seconds if stationary.

each of the above has been reported via etr but any suggestions would be
appreciated.

Lionel Dyck - Rockwell International, Information Systems Center

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 17:29:10 on 92/10/29 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Service Pack 'features' - update

The SYS1719 and the Win-OS2 Full Screen problems were apparently caused by
the device=c:\os2\mdos\v8514a.sys being in my config.sys and the service
pack adding that statement along with 2 others at the end.  By putting
the following statements together these 2 'features' have been resolved and
now I am just experiencing the flakey/jumping/disappearing mouse pointer.

           DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VVGA.SYS
           DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VWIN.SYS
           DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\V8514A.SYS

regards....

Lionel Dyck - Rockwell International, Information Systems Center

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 17:45:44 on 92/10/29 GMT (by SANT3VR at OS2CUST)
Subject: OS/2 installation from a network image?

I am looking for a method of installing OS/2 from a standard configuration that
can be stored on the Network.  I am tyring to speed up the instalation process
by eliminating the diskettes. Also inforce corpoate standards on installation?

Michael Hayhurst

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 17:54:47 on 92/10/29 GMT (by SSIA013 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Gwy 2000 Diamond Speedstar/CrystalScan 1024x768x256

Has *Anyone* succeeded in getting a Gateway 2000 Diamond Speedstar with a
CrystalScan 1024 monitor to work in 1024x768x256 for the PM desktop?!?!?

I've installed the SP and *STILL* I am not able to successfully get the
system to operate at that resolution.

Do we have to wait for drivers from Gateway/Diamond??

Any suggestions??

Paul Kurr -- Stockholder Systems, Norcross GA

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 18:54:26 on 92/10/29 GMT (by IL54080 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Service Pak Response File

Is there the response file for the service pak documented anywhere?
I tryied using the response.fil that is on diskette 1 but failed.
The error I get indicates that the response file response.fil is
invalid....

Here is the response.fil

          **** Default Response File
          *
          :SERVICE
          :DIRLIST
          <default>
          :ENDDIRLIST

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks

John Charalambous

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 19:17:32 on 92/10/29 GMT (by IL80772 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Service Pack Install Question (RE: PJ04052)

Have a question regarding installation of XR06055 Service Pack --
specifically in relation to APAR PJ04052.

The APAR text indicates that anyone experiencing the anomaly must
reformat all HPFS drives and the new HPFS.IFS will prevent reoccurrence.
However, the Service Pack README does not contain any reference to
reformatting HPFS drives nor does the Summary of APARS.

So, does this mean ...

1.  All workstations with GA code and HPFS drives should be
    reformatted and reinstalled before installing the Service Pack?

-OR-

2.  Only workstations with GA code and HPFS drives that have
    previously encountered the CPS:Extent error should be reformatted
    and reinstalled before installing the Service Pack?

-OR-

3.  Does the new HPFS.IFS resolve all issues with the CPS:Extent error
    where it is no longer necessary to reformat existing HPFS drives
    before installing the Service Pack?

Anyone care to clarify the actual intent for me?  We have more than a few
HPFS workstations to plan for.  Obviously it would be much easier if we
only have to reformat those few who have had the misfortune to encounter
the CPS:Extent error.

Marie Leuchtenberg, State Farm

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 19:28:40 on 92/10/29 GMT (by RDEBAY at BCRVMPC1)
Subject: Serious problem with OS/2 2.0 GA installation on MFM,RLL,ESDI drives
Ref:     Append at 20:20:28 on 92/10/28 GMT (by HNDERSON at AUSVM8)

  I suggest you escalate the problem.  The APAR has been cancelled, and
I know for a fact it has not been investigated.  The APAR closure text
reads that "Western Digital cards are not supported."  And before I
get some flames, I agree with you that it should not be closed.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 19:53:21 on 92/10/29 GMT (by NAAO3IY at HONE84)
Subject: ServicePak install on 486SLC2?
Ref: Append at 13:46:36 on 92/10/29 GMT (by IL74545 at OS2CUST)

John Kennedy, Hoechst Celanese (The OS/2 Hobbit)

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 19:55:10 on 92/10/29 GMT (by NAAO3IY at HONE84)
Subject: ServicePak install on 486SLC2?
Ref: Append at 13:46:36 on 92/10/29 GMT (by IL74545 at OS2CUST)

The only "problem" with the SP and the 486SLC2 systems is
that -- ta-da!  it's already installed on them!

John Kennedy, Hoechst Celanese (The OS/2 Hobbit)

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 21:21:10 on 92/10/29 GMT (by CURRANB at DALVM41B)
Subject: Service Pak Response File
Ref:     Append at 18:54:26 on 92/10/29 GMT (by IL54080 at OS2CUST)

For the :DIRLIST keyword, you need to enter parameters after it that
identify the partitions you wish to be updated.

If you simply say    :DIRLIST C:      where C is the partition you
                                      want updated
  you will get a valid response file.

Hope that helps!
  Bret Curran (CURRANB @ DALVM41B) -- Personal Systems Competency Center
     10/29/92 (Thursday) at 15:20:05

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 21:45:59 on 92/10/29 GMT (by IL54080 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Service Pak Response File
Ref: Append at 21:21:10 on 92/10/29 GMT (by CURRANB at DALVM41B)

I tried what you suggested and I still reseve the invalid response file message
Following is the variations of response.fil that I used with no success:
1.
   :SERVICE
   :DIRLIST  D:
   :ENDDIRLIST

2.
    :SERVICE
    :DIRLIST  D:
    <default>
:ENDDIRLIST
3.
    :SERVICE
    :DIRLIST  D:\
    :ENDDIRLIST
4.
    :SERVICE
    :DIRLIST
    <D:>
    :ENDDIRLIST

And following is the command I executed:

ìX:\cid\csd\disk_1┘fservice /R:x:\cid\rsp\csd\response.fil /S:x:\cid\csd /L1:x:
\cid\log\csd\csd.log

Any ideas why I am still getting invalid response file??

My question as to whether the response file contents are documented anywhere
still remains unanswered.....

Thanks....

John Charalambous

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 22:25:40 on 92/10/29 GMT (by IL41468 at HONE84)
Subject: ServicePak install on 486SLC2?
Ref: Append at 19:55:10 on 92/10/29 GMT (by NAAO3IY at HONE84)

John:
I have been told a subset of the service pack is installed as 2.00.1, not
the full service pack. Since the SP was still be modifed well after the
first 2.00.1's arrived at customer sites otherwise would require Asimov of
some other method of time displacement.

J.M.Schaeffer ('John' AIMS, Sandy Utah)

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 00:16:31 on 92/10/30 GMT (by SDAVIS1 at DALVMIC1)
Subject: Service Pak Response File
Ref:     Append at 18:54:26 on 92/10/29 GMT (by IL54080 at OS2CUST)

The easiest way I have found to build a Service Pack response
file is to the SERVICE program from the first Service
Pack diskette on any workstation, and capture the
\CSF$SEL.000 file from the root subdirectory when you exit the
service program - guarantee to be correct since it was built
by the SERVICE tool, and seems to install faster since the
subdirectories to search and replace files are specified in the
response file.

Steve Davis    IBM Southwestern Area Systems Center  Dallas

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 01:44:19 on 92/10/30 GMT (by HAYNIE at OS2CUST)
Subject: Service Pak Problem on Install:

Installed XR06055 Service Pak on a machine equipped with an ATI Graphics Ultra
(8514/a) clone card.  The service pack installation performed the following
modifications on my CONFIG.SYS file.

1. DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VSVGA.SYS (deleted)
2. DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VVGA.SYS  (added)

The VVGA.SYS statement that was added, was added at the end of my config.sys
file. after the V8514A.SYS statement.

To get rid of the startup error messages VSVGA.SYS must be placed before the
V8514A.SYS statement.  This should be provide to Austin support, since they
will be receiving many calls from users with ATI 8514 cards.

Robert P. Bartoszak - Mobil Oil Corporation

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 03:19:53 on 92/10/30 GMT (by HNDERSON at AUSVM8)
Subject: Service Pack 'features' - update
Ref:     Append at 17:29:10 on 92/10/29 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST)
Lionel, what type of mouse are you using? On what type of CPU?
I know when I put the "first SP" on my PS/2 Mod 80-161 with a IBM
mouse it was "quicker" then I like (I'm slow and left handed) I suspect
that there is a mouse fix in the SP like the one on this BBS.
 __   __      ___      __  __   _   _
|  |_|  |    /   \    |  \|  | | |./ / Hank Henderson HNDERSON at AUSVM8
|   _   |   / _~_ \  Sincerely |  . < Staff OSS to OS/2 BBS (TEAMOS2)
|__| |__|  /_/   \_\  |__|\__| |_| \_\ Tie:8-793-8647  Austin, Texas
                                       LNK1SM7 @ IBMLINK - OS/2 BBS
Please do something..! Lead, follow or get out of the way.

----- OS2INST CFORUM appended at 03:57:30 on 92/10/30 GMT (by AWAITE at SYDVM1)
Subject: Service Pak Response File
Ref:     Append at 21:45:59 on 92/10/29 GMT (by IL54080 at OS2CUST)

Re documentation of the Service Response File ...

GG24-3780 OS/2 2.0 Remote Installation and MAINTENANCE
(Chapter 9)                                ===========

Alan Waite * OS/2, LAN Support * Brisbane, Australia.