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Contributions violating these rules will be deleted by the CFORUM Owner or their delegate, and in some cases by an IBM conference Administrator. The OS2BBS CFORUM is where anyone may raise concerns regarding rules violations found in this and other CFORUMS. The IBM Owner of this forum is: Name: Boca Technical Interface Group Mailing Address: IBM Corporation: Boca Raton Programming Center 1000 NW 51ST Street Internal Zip 1424 Boca Raton, FL 33429 IBM Node/Userid: BCRVMPC1/ANDRESS ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 00:15:36 on 92/09/17 GMT (by LNK1SM1 at TPAVMPS2) ..... OS2GRWIN CFORUM modified at 00:16:57 on 92/09/17 GMT (by LNK1SM1 at TPAVMPS2) Subject: OS2GRWIN CForum initialization This CForum is now active. Enjoy.... :-) Brent Allen - IBM LAN Systems Integration Services Southlake, TX ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 01:32:50 on 92/09/17 GMT (by IL48722 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS2GRWIN CForum initialization Ref: Append at 00:15:36 on 92/09/17 GMT (by LNK1SM1 at TPAVMPS2) I hope to enjoy, Brent! I just got done FAXing my order to the distribution center -- so hopefully I'll see the disks soon! One question (for my planning purposes): The announcement said that I would need to reformat. Is this merely to delete all vestiges of the old system, or will I need to reformat other HPFS partitions as well?? I've tried to keep things pretty separate, so I'll be happy if you say the former, and rather unhappy if the latter. Bob Beilstein, Manugistics, Inc. (315) 458-0723 ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 03:37:42 on 92/09/17 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Partition size. Just for planning while I'm waiting for the disks. How big partition do I need with all the options? my current system: 40 M OS/2 160 M ES LS TCPIP NOVELL TOOLKIT 4 M Maintanance Can I share ES,LS .. between 2.0 and beta? Just in case , should I make Primary 2.0GA and Primary Beta? Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 NHO-32 801-7th Ave Calgary, Alberta, CANADA T2P 2N6 ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 19:00:06 on 92/09/17 GMT (by GOBEILLE at WSCVM) Subject: OS2GRWIN CForum initialization Ref: Append at 01:32:50 on 92/09/17 GMT (by IL48722 at OS2CUST) The instructions say to reformat your OS/2 partition only (the one with your system on it)... not everything else. I'm going to install mine tonight in a spare partition (with Bootmanager) and see what happens. I'm leaving my 'data partitions' alone. Janet Gobeille -- Washington Systems Center ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 19:09:44 on 92/09/17 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Partition size. I have to repartition my HD anyway, so how big partition needs this beta (assuming it will swap to the 'shared' data) ? Please I need this info VERY soon. Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 NHO-32 801-7th Ave Calgary, Alberta, CANADA T2P 2N6 ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 19:56:24 on 92/09/17 GMT (by TBHIC at OS2CUST) Subject: FTP DOWNLOAD Can we download the beta via the software.watson.ibm.com anaonymous ftp??? If yes, were would the files be located and whate are their names? Matt Hickman, Chevron Matt@bhice.hou130.chevron.com ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 20:00:37 on 92/09/17 GMT (by BTTUCKER at ATLVM1) Subject: Partition size. Ref: Append at 19:09:44 on 92/09/17 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Geza, I admit to having disk space to spare, but I usually use(d) 80 meg partitions for beta system partitions. Holds SE, ES and LSreq plus my swapfile, so I don't have to worry. And multiples of those with Boot Manager worked very fine during last winter's beta days. BT ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 20:05:15 on 92/09/17 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Subject: Partition size. Ref: Append at 03:37:42 on 92/09/17 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Geza, I just started installing on one of my systems now. I'll let you know how much space "everything" took as soon as it finishes. Brent Allen - IBM LAN Systems Integration Services Southlake, TX ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 20:33:03 on 92/09/17 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Partition size. Ref: Append at 20:05:15 on 92/09/17 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Thanks, Brent, I'm holding my breath. And dont read messages, just feed with diskettes.<g.> Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 NHO-32 801-7th Ave Calgary, Alberta, CANADA T2P 2N6 ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 21:48:45 on 92/09/17 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Subject: Partition size. Ref: Append at 20:33:03 on 92/09/17 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Well, that was an experience. First I ran out of disk space, then I hit a bad sector on one of my diskettes but I finally got it loaded! Here are some numbers you might consider for your installation: Installing the OS/2 beta with the Graphics Engine and all installation options took 31 meg excluding the swapper. This is with an XGA display and FAT partition. This INCLUDES WINOS2 3.0 support. WINOS2 3.1 is installed separately. I suppose you can choose not to install WINOS2 3.0, but I haven't tried that. WINOS2 3.1 took about 8 meg. You might find it interesting that the beta diskettes allow you to install WINOS2 3.1 on a partition other than your boot partition. This is what I had to do to get it installed.... (I had a 36 meg boot partition, which filled up. Fortunately I didn't have to start all over, just the WINOS2 installation) I have no idea about sharing ES/LS between a GA system and the Beta system. If it's possible to "share" between two GA systems, then you might be able to do it. All I can say is that you should definitely keep your GA production system available. I've heard that ES runs on the beta, but it's better to be safe than sorry. :-( I hope that helps. Brent Allen - IBM LAN Systems Integration Services Southlake, TX ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 21:52:10 on 92/09/17 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Subject: OS2GRWIN CForum initialization Ref: Append at 01:32:50 on 92/09/17 GMT (by IL48722 at OS2CUST) Bob, I did not have to reformat my HPFS data partition. As a matter of fact, I installed the WINOS2 3.1 code on that very same partition!! (after installing the 2.0 beta on another formatted partition). Brent Allen - IBM LAN Systems Integration Services Southlake, TX ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 01:55:48 on 92/09/18 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST) Subject: Does WINOS2 3.1 support TrueType fonts? Does WINOS2 3.1 support True Type fonts? Thanks in advance, Mike Long - CARD Iowa State University - PC/LAN Analyst ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 03:19:54 on 92/09/18 GMT (by ANDRESS at BCRVMPC1) ..... OS2GRWIN CFORUM modified at 03:43:11 on 92/09/18 GMT (by ANDRESS at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Does WINOS2 3.1 support TrueType fonts? Ref: Append at 01:55:48 on 92/09/18 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST) Yes, TrueTupe fonts are supported. Frank Andress BPC Technical Interface Group Boca Raton Fl. ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 03:23:21 on 92/09/18 GMT (by ANDRESS at BCRVMPC1) Subject: FTP DOWNLOAD Ref: Append at 19:56:24 on 92/09/17 GMT (by TBHIC at OS2CUST) Matt... I have not actually 'sent' it there yet, but I will try to contact our interface to the internet tomorrow, to see if we can make that happen. Frank Andress BPC Technical Interface Group Boca Raton Fl. ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 05:01:14 on 92/09/18 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Partition size. Ref: Append at 21:48:45 on 92/09/17 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Do I understand it correctly? It comes with full win3.0 AND win3.1 support ??? I can (have to?) install it to two different directories? How is the PATH works then? Wish they would send the readme up-front (or to the NSC,CI$) Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 NHO-32 801-7th Ave Calgary, Alberta, CANADA T2P 2N6 ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 07:17:31 on 92/09/18 GMT (by 61804212 at VIEVMA) Subject: Sharing ES/LS (was: Partition size.) Ref: Append at 21:48:45 on 92/09/17 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Yes it is possible, but since the ES/LS installation puts some stuff into the ÄOS2 and ÄOS2ÄDLL directories of the boot drive, it may a little bit tricky. If you install the beta release into a logical drive you have to reference those directories in your LIBPATH and PATH of the GA product (of course AFTER the pointers to the equivalent beta-product directories). Otherwise you have to copy all EPW* files and the file R0CSDD.SYS to a directory accessible by the beta code, and put this new directory into your PATH and LIBPATH. Georg Haschek - OS/2 Project Office (09/18/92 09:03:27 CET) ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 15:57:53 on 92/09/18 GMT (by X013813 at OS2CUST) Subject: What does this Beta include? I've seen in the other conferences that they are planning a Service Pack with the 32 Bit Graphics engine included. Does this Beta include a different version of the GRE than the service pack? Or is the GRE the same, and we are only Beta testing the Win 3.1 support? Mitch ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 16:10:15 on 92/09/18 GMT (by AMBC006 at MARTLINK) ..... OS2GRWIN CFORUM modified at 16:26:33 on 92/09/18 GMT (by AMBC006 at MARTLINK) Subject: Display Driver Diskette 1 prompt ? This APPEND was deleted at 12:26:33 on 09/18/92 EST. ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 16:40:39 on 92/09/18 GMT (by AMBC006 at MARTLINK) Subject: Display Driver Diskette 1 prompt ? Ref: Append at 16:10:15 on 92/09/18 GMT (by AMBC006 at MARTLINK) I found three other diskettes, tried to delete this entry - can't figure out how - Ignore this one. I think I'll pop over to the test forum and figure out how to delete stuff. Gee, I thought I was gonna get a chance to go home today. Michael Suszko, Jr (A. M. Best Co., Oldwick NJ) ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 20:12:31 on 92/09/18 GMT (by AMBC006 at MARTLINK) Subject: 42,5 MegaBytes to Install OS/2 with Win 3.1 My final byte count on a Model 55SX is 45,518,628 bytes. This count includes all of OS/2, a 4019 printer and the WIN 3.1, some small changes to the desktop and swapper file. Just thought someone might ask a question on how much space it all takes. Michael Suszko, Jr (A. M. Best Co., Oldwick NJ) ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 02:28:25 on 92/09/19 GMT (by AMBC006 at MARTLINK) Subject: Remote Installation and other trivia I installed the OS/2 6H427 on my little Model 55SX remotely and it doesn't seem any worst. I also reinstalled the 2.0 GA code, modified the desktop, then install 427 over the top of the GA and let it retained the desktop changes I made. I then installed 427 (what do we call this Release for short ??) over a model 70 that has ES and LS 3.0 on it - using diskettes - and it went well also. They Rem'd out the drivers and stuff, but a few keystrokes later I was into the network and on my terminals. I have the DISPLAY.DLL to do 132 characters, and it doesn't seem like the 427 one will give me 132. The font seem to have return to what they were back in 1.2, this is an improvement (at least to me it is). My ComMgr ICON has a back hole in it. My Model 70 seems to be running much faster (FAT file system) but that may be because I cleaned off so much garbage. I tried to follow the instructions for setting up the session setting for WIN 3.1, but my sessions setting for WIN/OS2 are grayed out. Oh well, enough of this, I think I'll go over to the RS/4000 and play with a real operating system for a hour or two. .. Overall, this release does seem faster, in a day or two when I get my Imaging working again I will know better - this may be slightly premature, but it looks like the OS/2 people did a nice job. Michael Suszko, Jr (A. M. Best Co., Oldwick NJ) ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 20:15:00 on 92/09/19 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST) Subject: Does WINOS2 3.1 support TrueType fonts? Ref: Append at 03:19:54 on 92/09/18 GMT (by ANDRESS at BCRVMPC1) Thanks Frank, Mike Long - CARD Iowa State University - PC/LAN Analyst ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 05:19:00 on 92/09/20 GMT (by THRUMD at SYDVM1) ..... OS2GRWIN CFORUM modified at 03:23:54 on 92/09/21 GMT (by THRUMD at SYDVM1) Subject: Does WINOS2 3.1 support TrueType fonts? Ref: Append at 20:15:00 on 92/09/19 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST) ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 22:24:59 on 92/09/21 GMT (by AMBC006 at MARTLINK) Subject: Remote Install and DSPINSTL I have the system installing Remotely, one of the pieces missing is how (or if) DSPINSTL works from a command line. I can get the system running by letting the remote install bring me back to a command prompt, then upacking the files for the driver (as is PSVGA32.DSC). After the first boot I enter DSPINSTL to let the system do it's thing from the Display Driver Diskettes, I haven't been able to get it to run from a redirected drive yet. Michael Suszko, Jr (A. M. Best Co., Oldwick NJ) ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 18:59:50 on 92/09/22 GMT (by WOODARDC at FSHVMX) Subject: Does WINOS2 3.1 support TrueType fonts? Ref: Append at 01:55:48 on 92/09/18 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST) Yes.................;-) Chuck @ FSHVMX ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 20:08:32 on 92/09/22 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: WinOS2 3.1 Audio Does WinOS2 3.1 comes with the recorder,.. MultiMedia applets? Does it comes with the Win drivers? Can I use my own sound drivers?(Business Audio from Compaq) I still have to wait a week to get it. Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 NHO-32 801-7th Ave Calgary, Alberta, CANADA T2P 2N6 ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 02:38:20 on 92/09/23 GMT (by IL41468 at HONE84) Subject: Where do I go? Ref: I received the 32_bit graphics and Windows 3.1 Beta a few hours a go. Just tried to boot the installation disk and got SYS error message. Ran a chkdsk against the diskettte and got 1124 lost allocation units is 14 chains and F80902.bio croosed link on allocation unit 122. Looks like I need a new Install diskette, who do I call? or is this enough. If you need to talk to me, my number is 801-572-4018 Mountain time here. J. M. Schaeffer ("John" AIMS Sandy, Utah) ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 11:22:58 on 92/09/23 GMT (by WZ00533 at OS2CUST) Subject: First Impressions Just installed the beta on a 386/25 clone. First impressions by category: 1) 32bit GRE - I don't notice any difference at all, <sigh of disappointment> 2) Windows 3.1 - It appears to be 'almost' a complete 3.1 package including all the accessories (except solitaire) also includes the sound 'stuff'. The speed 'appears' to be the same as native 3.1. On the whole 3.1 support looks great. except 3) Hey, it's a beta - My system crashed twice in 1/2 hour. I don't know why. I only 'played' for about an hour, so my experience is limited. I am interested in hearing from others. Oh by the way, the install went flawlessly, although it took about an hour. Dave Ferrey - Bethlehem Steel Corp. - Bethlehem PA. ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 18:36:39 on 92/09/23 GMT (by X013813 at OS2CUST) Subject: SYS02025, SYS02027 I received the Beta today and upon installation on PS/2 Mod 70 with 6 megs ram and a 75 meg partition already loaded with OS/2 2.0, I received the following error when booting up with the Installation disk: OS/2 !! SYS02025 OS/2 !! SYS02027 The machine hangs there. I also have boot manager installed and DOS 5.0 on the C: drive. OS/2 is installed on the D: drive. Thanks, Mitch ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 18:52:38 on 92/09/23 GMT (by CNADLER at WMAVM1) Subject: SYS02025, SYS02027 Ref: Append at 18:36:39 on 92/09/23 GMT (by X013813 at OS2CUST) Um, I hate to tell you this, but you are REQUIRED to format the partition that you will be installing the beta code on. At this point, re-install with a format and you should be OK (except for the loss of your previous customizations). Cliff Nadler GO TEAM OS/2! Systems Integration and Services Rockville, MD IBM Federal Systems Company PROFS: NADLER at WMAVM7 ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 18:54:35 on 92/09/23 GMT (by X013813 at OS2CUST) Subject: 32 Bit Graphics Engines release version Is the GRE included with the WIN 3.1 beta the same release level as the 32Bit GRE that is included with the Service Packs? Thanks, Mitch ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 22:11:12 on 92/09/23 GMT (by DABY13S at OS2CUST) Subject: Exploiting/testing 32-bit GRE I have just finshed installing the Beta. There were no problems during or after the installation. I selected full install, and used all defaults except the WIN-OS2 migrate applications feature (I plan to add test 3.1 apps later). However, I expected to be queried for additional information on my monitor/display adapter, but was not. I am using an ATI Graphics Ultra at 1024x768x256 (8514a). Is there any specific setup I can do to enable the SVGA support this card provides (1280x1024x16)? Thanks for your response. Eugene Dale Tyler, O/S Development ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 22:38:05 on 92/09/23 GMT (by THRUMD at SYDVM1) Subject: 32 Bit Graphics Engines release version Ref: Append at 18:54:35 on 92/09/23 GMT (by X013813 at OS2CUST) No - the Service Pack should be newer (include more fixes) Dave ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 12:01:15 on 92/09/24 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) Subject: SYS02025, SYS02027 Ref: Append at 18:36:39 on 92/09/23 GMT (by X013813 at OS2CUST) I just got these same message on my OS/2 2.0 GA disk: OS/2 !! SYS02025 OS/2 !! SYS02027. I'm installing on a new system. Does anybody know what this means? Thanks! Tracy K. Pipkin - Amoco Production Company - Houston, TX - (713) 596-7720 ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 12:05:57 on 92/09/24 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) Subject: Mouse pointer on IBM PS/2 CL57SX too large. The mouse pointer on the IBM PS/2 CL57SX is much larger than other systems. It seems that there was a problem report concern a too small mouse pointer with the IBM PS/2 L40SX PCs. So maybe that explains why it is not larger. However, I think that it is much to large! Is there a way to resize the mouse pointer? Thanks. Tracy K. Pipkin - Amoco Production Company - Houston, TX - (713) 596-7720 ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 12:35:29 on 92/09/24 GMT (by THRUMD at SYDVM1) Subject: SYS02025, SYS02027 Ref: Append at 12:01:15 on 92/09/24 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) These messages typically indicate that the disk you are trying to boot from is not recognised as a boot disk. I get the same messages when I inadvertently leave a diskette in the A drive when I try to boot a system. So I guess the first thing is to check out that the install disk ("DISK 0") has been built OK. Dave ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 13:16:28 on 92/09/24 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) Subject: SYS02025, SYS02027 Ref: Append at 12:35:29 on 92/09/24 GMT (by THRUMD at SYDVM1) Dave, How do you "verify" that the Install disk is bootable. This is the original OS/2 2.0 Installation Disk. Although the are no guarantees as to the quality of diskettes, I always write protect my "production" disks. So I know that I didn't write to this disk on purpose. Tracy K. Pipkin - Amoco Production Company - Houston, TX - (713) 596-7720 ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 13:22:43 on 92/09/24 GMT (by IL22590 at OS2CUST) Subject: WinOS2 3.1 beta - First thoughts I installed the Win3.1 beta last night on a PS/2 Model 70 (16Mhz) with 5Mb of ram. The install went smoothly, and performance of both the Win3.0 & 3.1 seems to be greatly improved. (Thanks!) I'm not had much time on this machine yet, but so far so good. The install of Win3.1 had a problem in that the graph for diskette #6 did not advance. Then file names changed as the files were loaded but the nice OS/2 graph did not advance. Also, after installing 3.1 support and re-booting - the Win3.1 icon had overlayed other icons in the command prompts folder. (An arrange fixed this but should not be necessary). BTW, Icons the the productivity folder were properly arranged. In the GA version these were sometimes overlayed upon initial opening. So progress is being made. Folders seem to open quicker with less time needed for the icons to fill in... looks good. Back to playing (Testing)... David Eller Sherrill Furniture Co. (704) 322-2640 ext 312 How are you going to do it? OS/2 it! ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 13:24:26 on 92/09/24 GMT (by IL22590 at OS2CUST) Subject: Beta & Extended Services - Novell ? Has anyone tried the new beta code with Extended Services 1.0 and or with the Novell requestor ? Thanks... David Eller Sherrill Furniture Co. How are you going to do it? OS/2 it! ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 13:42:47 on 92/09/24 GMT (by WOODARDC at FSHVMX) Subject: SYS02025, SYS02027 Ref: Append at 18:36:39 on 92/09/23 GMT (by X013813 at OS2CUST) Sorry, You MUST REFORMAT the PARTITION when installing this beta. There is NO WAY AROUND this. It is in the documentation (readme file on disk 0) Try again, but this time format the partition. Chuck @ FSHVMX ***Team OS/2 E.F.*** ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 14:00:15 on 92/09/24 GMT (by X013813 at OS2CUST) Subject: SYS02025, SYS02027 Ref: Append at 18:52:38 on 92/09/23 GMT (by CNADLER at WMAVM1) Cliff, I'm not even getting past the first disk to be able to reformat the drive. When I boot the same code on a 57 SLC with boot manager and OS/2 GA loaded, I am able to go through the diskettes. Mitch ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 14:04:34 on 92/09/24 GMT (by X013813 at OS2CUST) Subject: SYS02025, SYS02027 Ref: Append at 12:35:29 on 92/09/24 GMT (by THRUMD at SYDVM1) Dave, The diskette successfully boots on a 57SLC machine with similar configuration. Mitch ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 16:18:14 on 92/09/24 GMT (by IL21365 at OS2CUST) Subject: Unable to use PMHPO I sucessfully installed the 32-bit Beta on an IBM/PS2 mod 70. I wanted to rest ore my old workplace shell using a WPSBKUP utility. I was unsuccessful. The mi grate facility worked properly,however. The Extended Services feature worked f ine also. The PMHPO utility downloaded from this BBS failed to work properly, I only got a blank screen upon initiation. At this point I restored my system to the previous 'prod' version of OS/2 2.0. I intend to try again when I am ab le to recover my workplace shell and sucessfully run PMHPO. Ralph Grier Atlanta Public Schools ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 16:21:37 on 92/09/24 GMT (by MTRA136 at OS2CUST) Subject: GRE&WIN3.1 1st Impressions Finally got around to installing the Beta on a PS/2 Model 70 (6mb). Windows 3.1 is snappier. Windows 3.0 appears to run smoother. (This may be due to reformat- ing and clean-up of ini files and EA's. Which is a very strong case for an OS/2 base defragger!) Two problems did crop up. (1) The WILD mouse reappered. I checked the date of MOUSE.SYS against the XMSE MOUSE.SYS and applied that one. Same problem. (The mouse is a M$ mouse) (2) PMHPO fonts can not be selected. The screen yields this OVERSIZED fonts in a window too small to display the 80/25 screen. No scroll bars are visible also. The app works but the entire screen can not be displayed. I tried reinstalling and re-invoking the MAKEICON command from the default directory but all for naught. Any help would be really appreciated. (Oh yeah I did format prior to install!) Ric B. Green (Motorola Inc.) OS2INGIT@Home&@Work ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 16:24:25 on 92/09/24 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Subject: Beta & Extended Services - Novell ? Ref: Append at 13:24:26 on 92/09/24 GMT (by IL22590 at OS2CUST) I'm running ES Communications Manager (3270/Token Ring) and LS LAN Requestor just fine. I haven't tried Novell requestors yet. Brent Allen - IBM LAN Systems Integration Services Southlake, TX ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 16:44:34 on 92/09/24 GMT (by JOSE at RHQVM05) Subject: How to copy large downloaded files I have just downloaded the BETA version to my hard disk. Now I need to copy all the files to diskettes in order to pass it on to my customer And that's the problem: all files are 1,474,560 bytes and none would copy to 1.44 MB diskette (just a little bit too large). Even trying compression did not work, since most of them would not compress at all. Does anyone know any command on DOS (that's what I'm still using, sorry) that would copy the files to standard 3.5" 1.44MB formatted diskettes ? Thanks a lot. Jose-Luis Iribarren World Trade Communications Support White Plains, N.Y. Tel: (914) 642-3820 ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 16:53:43 on 92/09/24 GMT (by GOBEILLE at WSCVM) Subject: Unable to use PMHPO Ref: Append at 16:18:14 on 92/09/24 GMT (by IL21365 at OS2CUST) By the way, WPSBKUP will restore things, but I don't think it's made any pretense about being 'release independent'... I'm not sure. FYI: They've also come out with WPSBKUP4 -- to support the new Beta code. I downloaded it last week. Check on your local BBS. However, I did not try to use it to restore old customization (*sigh*). I just assumed it wouldn't work.... Janet Gobeille ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 17:46:16 on 92/09/24 GMT (by IL41468 at HONE81) Subject: SYS02025, SYS02027 Ref: Append at 14:04:34 on 92/09/24 GMT (by X013813 at OS2CUST) Tracy> Ging back to you original append. I got the same error message but I then ran a CHKDSK A; against the diskette. The total diskette was in bad shape. Cross links. Lost allocation units. I contacted 1-800-IBM-3040, and they can send out a replacement diskette. Bad news is they are out of stock and it will be about 5 days to get one. You might try your local IBM branch to see if anyone has a copy or they might download you a copy of their tools disk. Since they can not download a single diskette (out of the 25+) in the package, it might be over night before they can do anything. They can make a copy of only the one diskette once they download is complete. Apparently this problem is more wide spread that I first though. J. M. Schaeffer ("John" AIMS Sandy, Utah) ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 18:36:15 on 92/09/24 GMT (by PNWB016 at OS2CUST) Subject: Beta & Extended Services - Novell ? Ref: Append at 16:24:25 on 92/09/24 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Brent: Do you get a protection violation in OS2CHAR.DLL whenever you do a CM RECEIVE or SEND in an OS/2 window? (I do, but my machine is in an "indeterminate" state in terms of fixes applied and interactions with the 32-bit GRE... I want to make sure that my problem is because I don't have all the "right" fixes applied.) Thanks... Wayne "This time I broke it myself" Holmes ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 18:40:16 on 92/09/24 GMT (by CNADLER at WMAVM1) ..... OS2GRWIN CFORUM modified at 20:15:07 on 92/09/24 GMT (by CNADLER at WMAVM1) Subject: How to copy large downloaded files Ref: Append at 16:44:34 on 92/09/24 GMT (by JOSE at RHQVM05) |Removed reference to internal disk Cliff Nadler GO TEAM OS/2! Systems Integration and Services Rockville, MD IBM Federal Systems Company PROFS: NADLER at WMAVM7 ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 19:29:54 on 92/09/24 GMT (by XXTCAN01 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Beta & Extended Services - Novell ? Ref: Append at 13:24:26 on 92/09/24 GMT (by IL22590 at OS2CUST) I just updated my config.sys for the paths and drivers for lan requestor and ES 1.0. Works fine. but i have to start CM via an OS2 window using CM.CMD. (Wish I knew how to rebuild CM and ES folders) I know i can do it the hard way of cloning the folder and all the program in the folder but have not gotten around to that). If anybody has built the REXX code to do it would love to get a copy of it( hope it will become a standard to supply the rexx code) or some other method of rebuilding folders. Thanks Bob Turner Transport Canada ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 20:23:10 on 92/09/24 GMT (by PSSPPFP at OS2CUST) Subject: WINOS231 WINFILE gets error running in window on OS/2 desktop We think we found a problem on WINOS231 with File Manager. After we installed it on a PS/2 Mod 90 w/XGA drivers and WINOS231, we ran WINOS231 in full screen mode. WINFILE worked fine. We then added a Program object to a folder referencing WINFILE.EXE and set the Windows Mode for Standard 3.1. When we run it, we get a SYS3176 message window. When we ask for more info we get: "A program executed a illegal instruction at 00003F3C." There is no name of the program that produced the error. All that is diplayed are the registers at the time of the error. We were able to start Paintbrush in a window with no problems. If we started WINFILE again, the error comes up and both WINFILE and Paintbrush terminate. Both programs were setup using the Program Template and entering the name only. We let the system default all other settings. Any ideas on why this happens? Pete Paciorek, Public Service Electric & Gas, Newark, NJ ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 22:24:09 on 92/09/24 GMT (by THRUMD at SYDVM1) Subject: SYS02025, SYS02027 Ref: Append at 14:04:34 on 92/09/24 GMT (by X013813 at OS2CUST) Sorry, beats me. If you boot something else on the failing machine, can it read the Install diskette OK? Dave ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 22:41:04 on 92/09/24 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Subject: How to copy large downloaded files Ref: Append at 16:44:34 on 92/09/24 GMT (by JOSE at RHQVM05) Try LOADDSKF with the /E parameter. Brent Allen - IBM LAN Systems Integration Services Southlake, TX ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 22:50:54 on 92/09/24 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Subject: Beta & Extended Services - Novell ? Ref: Append at 18:36:15 on 92/09/24 GMT (by PNWB016 at OS2CUST) Wayne, I haven't experienced any problems so far. I do uploads and downloads all the time using ForBrowse (trying to keep up with your appends of course <g>) so SEND and RECEIVE get a pretty good workout. I don't know if the type of connection would make a difference, but for comparison purposes I'm running my 3270 session thru a 4mb Token Ring. My guess is that you need the complete set of fixes installed. Brent Allen - IBM LAN Systems Integration Services Southlake, TX ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 23:05:42 on 92/09/24 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Beta & Extended Services - Novell ? Ref: Append at 19:29:54 on 92/09/24 GMT (by XXTCAN01 at TORVMCOP) I have a file , the mkeslan.cmd ,originaly from â Georg Haschek (61804212 at VIEVMA) I added a few lines. If you give me your #, I can FAX it, or you can down load it from my PC. PS: It should be in one of the forums, but... Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 NHO-32 801-7th Ave Calgary, Alberta, CANADA T2P 2N6 ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 01:49:52 on 92/09/25 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST) Subject: WINOS231 WINFILE gets error running in window on OS/2 desktop Ref: Append at 20:23:10 on 92/09/24 GMT (by PSSPPFP at OS2CUST) Could this have to do with the new separate autoexec.bat files? May want to make sure it is pointed at the the correct WIN31OS2 autoexec so that the path does not get set to the WIN30OS2 sub-directory? Just a quick guess, Mike Long - CARD Iowa State University - PC/LAN Analyst ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 01:57:31 on 92/09/25 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST) Subject: How to copy large downloaded files Ref: Append at 18:40:16 on 92/09/24 GMT (by CNADLER at WMAVM1) Cliff, The LOADDSKF program is posted on the IBM NSC BBS available for us customers to download. It is there because some files they place on that BBS are *.DSK files, like the new mod90/95 refernce disks posted there last week. I wish IBM'ers would not have to be so careful about not mentioning internal disks, I suppose it is just natural curiosity to here what neat tools and utilities you have out there :-> Mike Long - CARD Iowa State University - PC/LAN Analyst ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 02:16:29 on 92/09/25 GMT (by SVRN018 at OS2CUST) Subject: Beta & Extended Services - Novell ? Ref: Append at 22:50:54 on 92/09/24 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Brent, PMJI, but are all the fixes for the GA code still applicable to this Beta? I was assuming that the beta would incorporate all the latest (most reliable) code fixes before it went into production? Is this not the case? Should we still apply those fixes when we get the beta up and running? Does anybody out there have the beta running with TCP/IP and X-Windows? I need to have this capability. I think I might hold off in loading until I get a positive response on this.....(or I should anyway...but the disks are sitting right next to my keyboard! I dont know how much longer I can keep them in the package!!). Brad Bueche NationsBank EUC/Hotline Technical Support Norfolk, VA ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 02:31:26 on 92/09/25 GMT (by IL37690 at OS2CUST) Subject: INPCS HPO 1.1.1 & PMHPO 1.1a Fail After an apparantly flawless install of os/2 2.0x 32bit GRE WIN/os2 3.1 I am no longer able to run either PMHPO 1.1 or 1.1a and INPCS HPO 1.1.1. INPCS abends with a SYS3176 (illegal instruction) while PMHPO will connect with IIN the opening screen is mostly unusable. I only get the left portion of the screen and many of the characters are misplaced. It seems some characters are not spaced correctly and some have wrapped to the left half of the screen. The Machine is a 486/33 OEM (from the PCM list) with a TSENG 4000 based video adapter. Most other apps appear to run (so far) except all my connections to IBMLINK and OS/2BBS from an OS/2 platform just vanished. Funny thing is we just upgraded to INPCS HPO 1.1.1 because it supposidly supports OS/2. It did before the Beta. PMHPO also ran before installing the Beta. Thank you. James Schmidt ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 03:42:52 on 92/09/25 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE83) Subject: Installation Bug in Beta Folks one of the bugs that was present in the GA installation package is still present in the GRE beta. There is a situation with multiple RLL/MFM drives where the system refuses to install. This first appeared with the IBM1S506.ADD fix shortly after GA. It was reported and the work around for it was also reported but apparently the work around was considered a fix and IBM1S506.ADD still is in error. If you try to install in a machine with 2 RLL/MFM drives and encounter an FDISK failed msg or the system just hangs at the end of disk 1 you can get around the problem by replacing the IBM1S506.ADD by copying IBMINT13.I13 to IBM1S506.ADD on DISK#1. Then when the Install Disk has been read for second time instead of removing as instructed, reboot from it and Disk#1 and replace IBM1S506.ADD in the same manner on your hard drive. You might want to rename the IBM1S506.ADD file rather than copying directly over it. Jack Hiatt Marc Life Atlanta Ga. ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 03:54:56 on 92/09/25 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE83) Subject: Installation Bug in Beta Folks one of the bugs that was present in the GA installation package is still present in the GRE beta. There is a situation with multiple RLL/MFM drives where the system refuses to install. This first appeared with the IBM1S506.ADD fix shortly after GA. It was reported and the work around for it was also reported but apparently the work around was considered a fix and IBM1S506.ADD still is in error. If you try to install in a machine with 2 RLL/MFM drives and encounter an FDISK failed msg or the system just hangs at the end of disk 1 you can get around the problem by replacing the IBM1S506.ADD by copying IBMINT13.I13 to IBM1S506.ADD on DISK#1. Then when the Install Disk has been read for second time instead of removing as instructed, reboot from it and Disk#1 and replace IBM1S506.ADD in the same manner on your hard drive. You might want to rename the IBM1S506.ADD file rather than copying directly over it. Jack Hiatt Marc Life Atlanta Ga. ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 04:16:07 on 92/09/25 GMT (by THRUMD at SYDVM1) Subject: WINOS231 WINFILE gets error running in window on OS/2 desktop Ref: Append at 20:23:10 on 92/09/24 GMT (by PSSPPFP at OS2CUST) Have a look in the WINOS2 settings. I think it defaults to trying to start the app under WINOS2 3.0 rather than WINOS2 3.1. This might be your problem. Dave ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 04:17:57 on 92/09/25 GMT (by PNWB016 at OS2CUST) Subject: Beta & Extended Services - Novell ? Ref: Append at 22:50:54 on 92/09/24 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Brent: OK... thanks for the info. Hopefully I will be able to get my machine to a known good level in the next couple of days. Wayne "This time I broke it myself" Holmes U S WEST Communications ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 04:41:56 on 92/09/25 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Beta & Extended Services - Novell ? Ref: Append at 02:16:29 on 92/09/25 GMT (by SVRN018 at OS2CUST) Re:TCPIP+... If not yet, it will be on the Professional CD. I wish we could test the C++ too. Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 NHO-32 801-7th Ave Calgary, Alberta, CANADA T2P 2N6 ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 11:29:03 on 92/09/25 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE86) Subject: Installation Bug in Beta Ref: Append at 03:54:56 on 92/09/25 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE83) I just went back an looked at my previous append on the bug subject and I am really amazed that IBM is shipping even a beta with this error still in the install procedure. It was as I said reported soon after GA, as I know I discovered it on about April 4, we received absolutely no response on the problem at that time open a problem thru the OS/2 BBS or IBMLink. We later discovered 2 different ways to get GA to install and 1 way to access the second drive. We appended this info to the problem reports and shortly after one was closed as a dupe, this is fine, the second was closed with one the obscure 3 letter acronymns and now the problem is still here. For a product that I would love to see succeed, and I think I have done a little trying to help, I find it completely asinine that this bug still exists. Oh well back to NSC BBS to paste in fix info for the next month again. COME ON IBM GET THE DAMN INSTALLATION STUFF RIGHT AT LEAST. Jack Hiatt Marc Life Atlanta Ga. ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 13:05:03 on 92/09/25 GMT (by PSSPPFP at OS2CUST) Subject: Install hangs after BVHVGA.DLL I tried to install the Beta on a 486DX Clone. The first time was a full install with WINOS231 and it all went fine. The next time, I requested that WIN-OS/2 3.0 not be installed. Since WINOS231 worked, I figued the I could save about 3 Meg not installing it. I set it up using standard VGA. Everything went fine until I got to the first Display Drivers disk. The last file it copies is OS2\DLL\BVHVGA.DLL, the system BEEPS and then HANGS. The partition I installed in was reformatted each time. I will try this again on a PS/2 Mod 90 I have to see if it is machine dependent. Pete Paciorek, Public Service Electric & Gas, Newark, NJ ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 13:12:30 on 92/09/25 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) Subject: How to copy large downloaded files Ref: Append at 01:57:31 on 92/09/25 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST) Mike, What is the number to the IBM NSC BBS? Tracy K. Pipkin - Amoco Production Company - Houston, TX - (713) 596-7720 ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 13:29:01 on 92/09/25 GMT (by PSSPPFP at OS2CUST) Subject: WINOS231 WINFILE gets error running in window on OS/2 desktop Ref: Append at 04:16:07 on 92/09/25 GMT (by THRUMD at SYDVM1) I just verified the the system. WIN_RUNMODE has "3.1 Standard" selected. I also I entered "WINOS231\AUTOEX31.BAT" for DOS_AUTOEXEC. Still the same error. I tried this on a system that is using standard VGA and it worked fine. The XGA/8514 HiRes mode seems to be the problem. I will be installing on a Mod 90 but in standard VGA mode only to see if that's the problem. Pete Paciorek, Public Service Electric & Gas, Newark, NJ ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 14:11:30 on 92/09/25 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE82) Subject: How to copy large downloaded files Ref: Append at 13:12:30 on 92/09/25 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) Tracy, 404-835-6600 Jack Hiatt MARC-Life Atlanta Ga. ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 14:27:07 on 92/09/25 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) Subject: How to copy large downloaded files Ref: Append at 14:11:30 on 92/09/25 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE82) Ok. That's the number I tried. But I couldn't find the LOADDSKF file. Any ideas. Tracy K. Pipkin - Amoco Production Company - Houston, TX - (713) 596-7720 ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 14:56:46 on 92/09/25 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Subject: Beta & Extended Services - Novell ? Ref: Append at 02:16:29 on 92/09/25 GMT (by SVRN018 at OS2CUST) Brad, Not being directly involved with development effort, I really don't know how things overlap between the Selective Fixes/Beta code/Service Pack. The base OS/2 & GRE beta code is dated mid-August (mostly) and the WinOS2 beta disks are mid-September. There have been some GA selective fixes released since those dates so obviously not all of the lastest fixes are in the beta code. My recommendation would be to try the beta code as-is. Boca probably wants to know how well THIS code works, not some combination of Beta & GA fixes. If some circumstance arises where you just can't get it to work, well it is a test system (Remember: Non-Production system!) so you can try anything you like. Brent Allen - IBM LAN Systems Integration Services Southlake, TX ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 15:00:48 on 92/09/25 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Subject: INPCS HPO 1.1.1 & PMHPO 1.1a Fail Ref: Append at 02:31:26 on 92/09/25 GMT (by IL37690 at OS2CUST) We're aware of the PMHPO problems. There are two different problems depending on whether the WINOS2 3.1 beta is installed or not. The developer is sitting next to me trying to resolve this problem at this very moment..... I'll give INPCS a try myself and pass the work along to the Information Network folks. Brent Allen - IBM LAN Systems Integration Services Southlake, TX ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 15:17:22 on 92/09/25 GMT (by NAGUEXU at HONE81) Subject: OS2GRWIN CForum initialization Ref: Append at 00:15:36 on 92/09/17 GMT (by LNK1SM1 at TPAVMPS2) Brent -- when in Southlake Sep 8-10, you gave me a diskette w/PMHPO and ForBrows. 1) I can't get ForBrows to work w/Comm Mgr. It does the setup, get an RC=0, then starts the next step. The whole system goes out with a Trap 000e. PS/2 70-486 w/V2.0 with OS2KRNL patches (not the full service pack.) 2) The notebook I installed PMHPO on (and ran successfullly) while in Southlake had the service pack applied to it. Now, PMHPO won't load. No errors. It starts ( the icon goes from dark to cross-hatch), then stops (the icon reverts to dark). ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 16:23:54 on 92/09/25 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Subject: OS2GRWIN CForum initialization Ref: Append at 15:17:22 on 92/09/25 GMT (by NAGUEXU at HONE81) Regarding item 2, PMHPO will NOT work with the Graphics Engine. We know it and we're working on it. We're trying to get a fix ready before the Service Pack becomes available, but at this point it's not ready. I don't have an answer for the ForBrowse trap. When you installed on the Comm Mgr system, did you also install PMHPO? If so, you might want to re-install PMHPO and ForBrowse one at at time, putting each in a different subdirectory. I know that if they're in the same subdirectory, then Forbrowse will pick up PMHPO's Send & Receive commands instead of Comm Manager's. Beyond that, all I can suggest is that you report this trap in the FORBROWS CFORUM so that the developer will see it. This is the Graphics Engine/WINOS2 forum and I doubt if he monitors this forum. In general, please take all of your ForBrowse & PMHPO comments to the FORBROWS and/or OS2BBS CFORUMS. They'll be seen by the right people more quickly there. Brent Allen - IBM LAN Systems Integration Services Southlake, TX ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 16:40:50 on 92/09/25 GMT (by MJDAVID at SFOVMIC1) Subject: TSENG SVGA Is there a way to get SVGA on the OS/2 desktop using the TSENG chip set. I am not sure which version the chip set is but I just bought the computer. Dave Mook ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 16:49:43 on 92/09/25 GMT (by HNDERSON at AUSVM8) Subject: How to copy large downloaded files Ref: Append at 13:12:30 on 92/09/25 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) Tracy, the LOADDSKF.exe is on this BBS you don't need to go anywhere else. Look under "OS/2 Software Library" option 3 under Main Menu, then option 4 for OS/2 Tools. __ __ ___ __ __ _ _ | |_| | / \ | \| | | |./ / Hank Henderson HNDERSON at AUSVM8 | _ | / _~_ \ Sincerely | . < Staff OSS to OS/2 BBS (TEAMOS2) |__| |__| /_/ \_\ |__|\__| |_| \_\ Tie:8-793-8647 Austin, Texas LNK1SM7 @ IBMLINK - OS/2 BBS ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 18:04:31 on 92/09/25 GMT (by NBNJDYW at OS2CUST) Subject: Graphics Engine Functionallity I just installed the 32-bit graphics engine version of OS/2 and the Windows 3.1 code. I followed the instructions in the READ.ME files and when I was done, I had the Windows 3.0 code in the \OS2\MDOS\WINOS2 directory and Windows 3.1 in the \WIN231 directory. The 3.0 Windows is missing the GOPM.EXE, the DDAEGENT.EXE, and the CLIPWOS2.EXE. The Windows 3.1 didn't have any of these functions either. When running a Windows application I do select both the WIN_DDE and WIN_CLIPBOARD but I don't get the functions. Am I missing something or is there a workaround? between high resolution (Windows full-screen) and medium resolution (Windows I have an 8514/A adapter and the WINOS2 3.1 installation asked me to choose between high resolution (Windows full-screen) and medium resolution (Windows in a Window). I take it that 8514/A support is not in this release for windowing applications in the workplace shell. Performance is equivalent to GA code. Icons do come up slightly faster when opening a folder. Is the 32-bit graphics engine going to do anything for me? Is there some setting I'm missing? Did installing the Windows 3.1 code wipe out the 32-bit graphics engine? It did replace the OS2KRNL file with its own non-hidden version. I have successfully installed communications manager (ES 1.0) and the 2.0 version of the LAN Requestor. I also have the NOVELL requestor running with coexistence between LAN Server and NOVELL. John Flanders GTE Service Corp. ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 18:10:10 on 92/09/25 GMT (by PGID006 at OS2CUST) Subject: Feedback on first install and use Installed 32-bit GRE and Win-OS/2 3.1 on PS/2 95-0KF 16MB and only encountered one problem. The machine hung while trying to restart after Win-OS/2 3.1 install. While using Win-OS/2 3.1 to install a win 3.1 application (MS powerpoint 3.0) and the installation appears to be suspended (I/O top the diskette drive stops) whenever I ctrl-esc to the desktop. Is this due to the rule about graphic applications being suspended or a bug? This is the first time I've noticed this happening when I've done installs. Keith A. Blake (The Procter and Gamble Company) ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 18:28:51 on 92/09/25 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE82) Subject: How to copy large downloaded files Ref: Append at 14:27:07 on 92/09/25 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST) Tracy, sorry didn't know what you were going there for. The file that you want from NSC BBS is called LDF.COM over there. It is a self extracting zip file. Jack Hiatt MARC-Life Atlanta Ga. ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 19:01:40 on 92/09/25 GMT (by GILIBRTI at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Graphics Engine Functionallity Ref: Append at 18:04:31 on 92/09/25 GMT (by NBNJDYW at OS2CUST) Here are some of the features you can expect with the graphics engine. As you are using 8514, you won't have the benefit of a 32bit seamless driver. <yet>. The 32bit Graphics Engine Beta includes: A fully 32 bit C/SET2 implementation of the OS/2 Graphics Engine and Graphics Programming API. The VGA and XGA device drivers have also been converted to 32 bit. Programming benefits include greater portability and flat model memory addressing. The ability to run windows applications seamlessly on the the OS/2 desktop has been added in XGA configurations. Expanded system limits include: * Up to 16K PS/DC handles * Up to 64K Bitmap handles * Up to 64K Region handles * Up to 64K Font Handles * Polylines with > 64K (data) of points. ie support for very large arrays of points ie very complex drawings. (Theoretically up to 128,000,000 points). * GPI paths of up to 8,000,000 points (was 1400 points) * Almost 6 times the number of MLEs * Shared resource limits approx equal system limits due to support for flat memory model. No longer relies on 8000 LDT entries per process (bitmaps, fonts etc). New entry point GpiPolygon (for high speed drawing of polygons). Palette Management in the XGA environments. 16 Bit display driver compatibility - Jim Giliberti ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 19:27:08 on 92/09/25 GMT (by PNWB016 at OS2CUST) Subject: Graphics Engine Functionallity Ref: Append at 19:01:40 on 92/09/25 GMT (by GILIBRTI at BCRVMPC1) Jim: From your append it appears that pallete management is a function of the display device driver. Is this correct? Are there plans for pallete management with VGA? (We have a bunch of vanilla VGA monitors, and would like to be able to get the "right" colors on more of our apps.) Thanks! Wayne "Always full of questions" Holmes U S WEST Communications ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 19:28:37 on 92/09/25 GMT (by PNWB016 at OS2CUST) Subject: Graphics Engine Functionallity Ref: Append at 19:01:40 on 92/09/25 GMT (by GILIBRTI at BCRVMPC1) Jim: I think I know the answer, but has anything been done to increase the number of items that may be inserted in listboxes? (I realize this isn't part of the GRE, but I can always hope.) Wayne "Crossing my fingers" Holmes U S WEST Communications ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 19:33:51 on 92/09/25 GMT (by PMS7508 at MARTLINK) Subject: MS Word for Windows -- No Fonts Available After installing the OS/2 Beta w/ WINOS231, MS Word for Windows 2.0 will not display any fonts. If installed and invoked under WINOS2 3.0, the font window opens, but is empty, even though numerous fonts have been installed via ATM. If installed and invoked under WINOS2 3.1, the font window will not open at all. Any help will be appreciated. John Baker, Policy Management Systems Corporation ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 19:40:12 on 92/09/25 GMT (by DEV4021 at OS2CUST) Subject: Updates to OS/2 2/0/32bge There are plenty of updates for OS2 2.0 on the Atlanta BBS. How am I supposed t o tell wether thery ara compatible with the 32 bit graphics engine/win 3.1 beta system. I like the enhancements to the 32bge version. I am trying to promote the use of OS2 to drive BBS's in this area and need to know what updates can be used. The latest fix to com.sys - the one with selecting only one comm port per session - is really needed for running bbs's since most existing bbs's are running unde r DOS and the sysops have a considerable investment in the software they are us ing. Edward C. Michele ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 20:34:28 on 92/09/25 GMT (by NBNJDYW at OS2CUST) Subject: Graphics Engine Functionallity Ref: Append at 19:01:40 on 92/09/25 GMT (by GILIBRTI at BCRVMPC1) What OS/2 files were replaced by the WINOS2 3.1 install? If I reinstall and use the medium resolution choice will I wipe out parts of the graphics engine? John Flanders GTE Service Corp. ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 20:35:42 on 92/09/25 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS2GRWIN CForum initialization Ref: Append at 16:23:54 on 92/09/25 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) I'm not using the beta, but like many others I'm watching this forum while wait ing for the Service Pack - with the 32-bit GRE. What I'm wondering is; why is an application such as PM-HPO having problems - is this the case for any 32-bit OS/2 app? I've got to believe that there is something to the offering of the Service Pack without the 32-bit GRE one month later. Won't ALL apps be compat. with the 32-bit GRE whether or not they use it? The second concern I have is that with time so short - once I apply the Service Pack I will no longer be able to get into this BBS! With a LOT of luck I will not need to find immediate patches, workarounds, and advice after everything is all fixed :). Please specify which has the problem, PM-HPO or the 32-bit GRE (if you can). Chris Knoell (MGH) ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 21:10:24 on 92/09/25 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Graphics Engine Functionallity Ref: Append at 19:28:37 on 92/09/25 GMT (by PNWB016 at OS2CUST) Wayne, Isn't this limitation is comming from the 16 bit PM ? Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 NHO-32 801-7th Ave Calgary, Alberta, CANADA T2P 2N6 ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 21:21:34 on 92/09/25 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST) Subject: Applets Could someone (brave) please try the Applets with the beta code installed. Specifically anyone who experienced the GA bugs associated with them. With the reports of GA bugs that are still present at this point it would be nice to know. While these little programs may have limited functionality - it would be nice if Sticky Pad did not crash and corrupt the entire system! We are not ask ing for anything that would make these "mini-apps" better - new OS/2 users will not appreciate the GA EXECUTION of these included programs. For more details on the Sticky Pad situation, look in the "Mini-Apps" forum for appends by Jerry Sitbon. Chris Knoell (MGH) ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 21:48:03 on 92/09/25 GMT (by PNWB016 at OS2CUST) Subject: Graphics Engine Functionallity Ref: Append at 21:10:24 on 92/09/25 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Geza: You are correct... but I could always hope. Wayne "Needing to stuff more items into listboxes" Holmes ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 22:37:14 on 92/09/25 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Graphics Engine Functionallity Ref: Append at 21:48:03 on 92/09/25 GMT (by PNWB016 at OS2CUST) Wayne, I think it's the time to separate OS/2 in pieces, not just the two: IBM OS/2 16-bit Graphics Engine IBM OS/2 Base Operating System We need the Kernel, PM ,file system build numbers too. Then we could push the whole system to 32-bit. When I un the syslevel, I'd like to see them too. Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 NHO-32 801-7th Ave Calgary, Alberta, CANADA T2P 2N6 ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 23:07:49 on 92/09/25 GMT (by AMXD031 at OS2CUST) Subject: SYS02025, SYS02027 Ref: Append at 13:42:47 on 92/09/24 GMT (by WOODARDC at FSHVMX) Well... Recognizing that it is a risk, but not wanting to rebuild my 70MB C partition, I have for the last year NEVER reformatted before installing any verision of OS/2 2.0, including this beta. Of course all OS/2 related files including those for extended attributes must be deleted, but this is much quicker that reconstructing the partition. So, there is a way to avoid a format. Anyway, so far the OS/2 32 GE with WINOS231 is working just fine on a 386/40 clone. Windows applications run thus far (in full screen) include: Excel 4.0, Power Point 3.0, Word Perfect, MS Project 3.0, and Ascend. There is a noticable improvement in opening WPS objects. Good work OS/2 Team! More to follow. Jon Androvich ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 04:30:33 on 92/09/26 GMT (by HOPKINS at AUSVM8) Subject: Sharing ES/LS (was: Partition size.) Ref: Append at 07:17:31 on 92/09/18 GMT (by 61804212 at VIEVMA) It works well. Boot manager partition, 2.0 partition, GRE partition, and ES/LS on a separate drive. Point to the subs from the GRE and *voila* . So far, have only tested Lan Req functions. CM/DBM works well. I knew there was a reason we installed ES/LS on other drives! Ken Hopkins, OS/2 Software Service and Support ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 10:09:42 on 92/09/26 GMT (by IL78711 at OS2CUST) Subject: INPCS HPO 1.1.1 & PMHPO 1.1a Fail Ref: Append at 15:00:48 on 92/09/25 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) I have os2win3.1 installed. I can start PMhpo 1.1. However I am unable to get it to run full screen. When it is maximized it is only about 1/2 full screen. I am not sure if this is a diffewly reported problem or the one that others are reporting ent . I do get a communications connectio n. ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 15:22:24 on 92/09/26 GMT (by IL37690 at OS2CUST) Subject: WIN 3.1 V*.386 drivers missing ? My home machine has a SoundBlaster from Creative Labs. Under WINOS2 3.1 there is an option under Control Panel to add device drivers. When I select SoundBlaster 1.5 or 1.0 I am prompted to insert the WINOS2 3.1 install diskette #3. When I insert this diskette I receive a message that VSBD.386 driver is missing. If I attempt to configure it as an ADLIB card the VADLIB.386 driver can't be found on the WINOS2 3.1 install diskette. I looked through all the FILE.LOG's on all of the WINOS2 3.1 install diskettes and found none with a .386 suffix. Are they just missing on the Beta or is there a more basic problem here? Thanks. James Schmidt ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 17:06:09 on 92/09/26 GMT (by MTRA136 at OS2CUST) Subject: GRE32 BETA & DOS Problem While attempting to do a screen print from a DOS session (PS/2 Mod 70 6MB) under OS/2 2.0 GRE 32 Beta. I got the following message: DOS Full Screen SYS3176: A program in this session encountered a problem and cannot continue. A program executed an illegal instruction at 000d37e8. EAX=00008626 EBX=00000006 ECX=00000050 EDX=00000000 ESI=000091a9 EDI=00001120 DS=958a DSACC=**** DSLIM=******** ES=018b ESACC=**** ESLIM=******** FS=0000 FSACC=**** FSLIM=******** GS=0000 GSACC=**** GSLIM=******** CS:EIP=d174:000020a8 CSACC=1075 CSLIM=0009eabc SS:EIP=018b:000010d0 SSACC=**** SSLIM=******** EBP=00005139 FLG=00023002 Doesn't hang the system just refuses to perform a screen print. Just an FYI for those concerned. Ric B. Green (Motorola Inc.) OS2INGIT@Home&@Work ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 18:24:30 on 92/09/26 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Subject: Applets Ref: Append at 21:21:34 on 92/09/25 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST) Chris, Hello there! It is I Jerry Sitbon. If it wasn't for your replys on the BBS sometimes I feel like I am sending messages to know one. I plan to load the Beta version 2.0 / WINOS2 3.1 this Sunday. "Speak of being Nuts" I am going to test all the parts of OS/2 against all the known problems I found in the GA version. I will be installing the system with the full 320 megs of hard disk. In addition all applets will be executed. Other tests will include: displaying over 100 icons on the the screen, Check disk error messages, Folder access time (opening & closing), Drive tree, Directory folder default settings, Window Programs like Mathcad 2.0, Icon editor, System operation with more than one printer assigned to the same printe port, ablility to remove a created desktop and much much more. PS: I am also Beta testing the program SPM/2. I tried it with OS/2 GA with most of the fixes installed. Included with SPM/2 is a Kernal dated 9/92 but the size of this Kernal is smaller than the one listed on the BBS. When I replaced the OS/2's Kernal with the one in the SPM/2 pack, OS/2 could not connect communication programs to the serial port. (Both OS/2 and DOS programs were effected. If I disabled the SPM/2 program DOS program could still communicate but OS/2 programs couldn't. I will be submitting a summary report to IBM on all my results with SPM/2 as soon as I finish running various tests on it. Will be speaking to you soon. PS: The PM-HPO program, it's true insert doesn't work. Maybe its been fixed in the (a) version. The New Technology of the Future is OS/2. Jerry Sitbon (718) 357-4369 ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 03:30:10 on 92/09/27 GMT (by WZ00589 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 32-Bit Beta problem with OS-Full Screen Hi, I just installed the 32-bit and 3.1 beta version of OS/2. The problem I'm having is this, I go into window 3.1 perform some type of function then I return to the Desktop. I can go into DOS full screen DOS windows or OS windows with no problem, but when I go into OS full screen sometimes the screen contains garbage (different colors) on the screen. I can enter commands but cannot read what I'm typing, so I enter exit to return to the desktop. The contents of the screen looks like a graphic program abended and the graphic colors remain on the screen. The only way to clear it is to reboot the system. I'm running a 486-33MHz 16Meg memory, AMI motherboard, TSENG-4000 card with 1024 memory and supports 1024x768. Do you have any idea how to resolve this problem? I can be reached at (706) 596-7620. Thank You. Joe Landenberg ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 18:40:10 on 92/09/27 GMT (by SVRN018 at OS2CUST) Subject: Beta & Extended Services - Novell ? Ref: Append at 14:56:46 on 92/09/25 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Brent, Well, I couldn't hold out. I installed it on my production system, a co-workers production system and my home system :) ! Both my home machine and my co-worker's machine have enough room to load both versions (i.e. the GA and the beta). On my machine I just went for broke.. (the dweeb's form of bungi jumbing I guess)....And it seems to be a success, ES,LS, and TCPIP and X-Windows all work (with 1 adapter). PMGLOBE now works too (and it seems to be alot faster). PMGlobe didn't work very well with my machine (GA code and fixes), but it worked OK on a co-workers model 70 (?). So far I have installed it on a model 90-0K9 with 16 meg, a model 80-321 with 16meg, and myEverex 386 (the motherboard is an EX0300 or something like that). The Everex only has 1 meg on the mother board and 8 on a Boca Board and both GA and this beta have performed without any glitches! Also, FWIW, if you have and XGA...go to System Settings and you'll see that you have the option of running in 640X480X256 or 1024X768X16...Pretty Cool! Brad Bueche NationsBank EUC/Hotline Technical Support Norfolk, VA ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 18:51:47 on 92/09/27 GMT (by SVRN018 at OS2CUST) Subject: GRE32 BETA & DOS Problem Ref: Append at 17:06:09 on 92/09/26 GMT (by MTRA136 at OS2CUST) Boca, I just tried to print from a full screen DOS session and I got the SYS3176 as well. I have a model 90-OK9 with 16 megs with LS,ES, TCPIP on a Lan Server 1.3.2 Lan. Brad Bueche NationsBank EUC/Hotline Technical Support Norfolk, VA ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 21:09:05 on 92/09/27 GMT (by IL37690 at HONE81) Subject: OS/2 32-Bit Beta problem with OS-Full Screen Ref: Append at 03:30:10 on 92/09/27 GMT (by WZ00589 at OS2CUST) I have a similar system and experience the same problem. I suppose it's related to the TSENG 4000 video adapter. I've worked up a kludge of a workaround for the time being. I wrote a one line CMD file and name it VIO.CMD and put it in a directory that is in my OS/2 Path. The VIO.CMD contains a single line: mode co80 In my config.sys for OS/2 I modified the the SET OS2_SHELL line to be as follows: SET OS2_SHELL=E:\OS2\CMD.EXE /K VIO.CMD Now everytime I open an OS/2 window or fullscreen session my CMD file gets executed and cleans up the garbage display. Hope this helps ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 22:47:33 on 92/09/27 GMT (by IL41468 at HONE83) Subject: OS/2 32-Bit Beta Install I guess I tried something no one though of. I installed the beta with no windows support. When I start the system up I get SYS1718, C:\OS2\MDOS\VWIN.SYS missing when scanning the config.sys. Sure enough it is not there. It appears from the name to have something to do with window. I have not had any other problems that have not been reviewed in this forum. One question, I maybe the only person who has read the beta READ.ME, but how to I find the Deinstall routine that is discussed in this document. Is it an OS/2 feature or is only to do with windows 3.x? J. M. Schaeffer ('John' AIMS Sandy, Utah) ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 23:44:28 on 92/09/27 GMT (by NAAG4JJ at OS2CUST) Subject: Problems accessing ATM 2.0 Fonts under WINOS2 3.1 I've just installed the GE & WINOS2 3.1 code on my M90-0J9. I'm running in XGA mode. When I run WinWord 2.0A from WINOS2 3.1,I cannot change default font. If I run the same code from the OS/2 desktop I can see and select the MS fonts, but not the ATM fonts. Excel 4.0 allows me to see and select the MS-provided fonts in either environment, I cannot see ATM fonts. I reinstalled ATM 2.0 from my source diskettes in the WINOS2 3.1 environment. The install completed normally, and inspection of WIN.INI and ATM.INI in the C:¢WINOS231 directory indicates that appropriate changes were made. Nevertheless, I do not see the ATM icon come up with WINOS2 3.1 starts, as I have alsways seen with WINOS2 3.0 in the production version of OS/2 2.0. Has anyone else seen this? Is there a way to get ATM working right?? Thanks. Thomas Bloch, Aetna Life & Casualty ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 03:08:05 on 92/09/28 GMT (by GILIBRTI at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Graphics Engine Functionallity Ref: Append at 19:27:08 on 92/09/25 GMT (by PNWB016 at OS2CUST) Sorry, no plans for vga palette management. XGA, 8514 hardware lends itself to the function, while VGA does not. JimmyG ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 03:11:31 on 92/09/28 GMT (by GILIBRTI at BCRVMPC1) Subject: OS2GRWIN CForum initialization Ref: Append at 20:35:42 on 92/09/25 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST) In the case of HPO, I thought I saw that this became a problem after installation of the winos2 3.1 piece... Anyhow, the graphics engine is designed to be compatible with the old one. JimmyG ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 14:42:55 on 92/09/28 GMT (by PNWB016 at HONE83) Subject: Graphics Engine Functionallity Ref: Append at 03:08:05 on 92/09/28 GMT (by GILIBRTI at BCRVMPC1) OK... given the capabilities of VGA I can understand. I didn't have my hopes up, but I figured it couldn't hurt to ask. Wayne "GO OS/2" Holmes ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 16:08:47 on 92/09/28 GMT (by WZ00817 at OS2CUST) Subject: Problems upon installation I installed the 32 bit graphics engine. Lotus 123 for OS2 boots fine but does not print. I cam print the same files from the 16 bit version coexiting on my system. I also am unable to get Windows 3.1 to install the windows in the medium densit y mode. I am using a ATI Wonder Card and an ATI Ultra card. Otherwise the sys tem thinks that the system has an 8514A monitor. ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 16:45:29 on 92/09/28 GMT (by PMS7508 at MARTLINK) Subject: Problems accessing ATM 2.0 Fonts under WINOS2 3.1 Ref: Append at 23:44:28 on 92/09/27 GMT (by NAAG4JJ at OS2CUST) I am having the same problem. Neither MS Word for Windows 1.1 nor 2.0 will display the font list drop down box in WINOS2 3.1. In WINOS2 3.0, the drop down box will appear, but the ATM fonts are not displayed. I reported this problem in a different append last Friday, but as of yet, there is no reponse. This is a serious problem. Some analysis and recommendations on IBM's part would be appreciated. John Baker, Policy Management Systems Corporation ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 18:42:03 on 92/09/28 GMT (by MMLIR02 at OS2CUST) Subject: System fails after long shut-downs My system loads fine and seems to work with no probelms until I turn it off for the night. The next day it starts to boot and dies with a blank white screen. I assume that this is a video driver problem. I loaded VGA (eventhough I have a super VGA - TSENG 4000) but the system seems to end up as SVGA. Does any one h ave any thoughts/workarounds? I can't keep reloading. I haven't tried this on m y pure IBM machine yet. That comes next... Dennis Airoldi, MassMutual Life Insurance ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 14:22:26 on 92/09/29 GMT (by AMBC006 at MARTLINK) Subject: Icon - Black Holes My CommManager and 3270 session had a black hole after the the base install. The Icons 'magically' reappeared after I install the Win 3.1 diskettes. Just a bit of trivial that you might want to look at. Michael Suszko, Jr (A. M. Best Co., Oldwick NJ) ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 16:00:11 on 92/09/29 GMT (by GILIBRTI at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Icon - Black Holes Ref: Append at 14:22:26 on 92/09/29 GMT (by AMBC006 at MARTLINK) Thanks Mike, We're investigating this... Jim Giliberti ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 16:00:45 on 92/09/29 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Subject: OS2GRWIN CForum initialization Ref: Append at 20:35:42 on 92/09/25 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST) The problem is in PMHPO, not the GRE. I'm testing a new version of PMHPO that allows it to with with the GRE & WIN 3.1 beta code. As long as no new problems are found, the new code will be out this afternoon. Brent Allen - IBM LAN Systems Integration Services Southlake, TX ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 19:58:04 on 92/09/29 GMT (by WZ00817 at OS2CUST) Subject: Problems after Install I have installed the prerelease system on a 486 33 mhz with 16 mg of memory. I have ATI Wonder VGA and ATI Ultra card for 8514A compatibility. I have two pro blems. I cannot get seamless Windows in 3.1 when I choose medium density graph ics. I thought that I could. I have high density chosen for 3.0. Second the print function for Lotus 123 for os2 is garbled. I can print fine from Release 2.0 from the same files when I boot that system. Gary Crim @ home and @ office (513) 228-4200 ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 20:49:58 on 92/09/29 GMT (by GILIBRTI at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Problems after Install Ref: Append at 19:58:04 on 92/09/29 GMT (by WZ00817 at OS2CUST) Are you refering to the Print Preview portion of 123? We know of a visual problem with that function, but printing itself should be fine. Jim Giliberti ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 03:00:14 on 92/09/30 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Subject: Icon - Black Holes Ref: Append at 14:22:26 on 92/09/29 GMT (by AMBC006 at MARTLINK) Beta Tester's I am also testing OS/2 2.0 Beta + Windows 3.1 program. It is very important that after you install the Base system, shut down and restart, that you install the WIN-OS/2 3.1 diskettes. It appears that updates to the Kernal, SOM, and many other parts of the Base system is included in the diskettes of the WIN-OS/2 3.1 set. If you don't you will find many of the old problems of OS/2 still existing. After you have installed the WIN-OS/2 3.1 the system will operate correctly again. I am generating a list of tests that I have executed and their results. As soon as I finish testing the system I will post them. I hope this information will be of some help. IBM, the way I understand the Beta test there will not be fixes posted for this version. How will we know the status of these test. Also I would like to know it this test is an overall Beta test of the Base System and Windows 3.1 or just Windows 3.1 program. Jerry Sitbon (718) 357-4369 ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 03:13:09 on 92/09/30 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS2GRWIN CForum initialization Ref: Append at 16:00:45 on 92/09/29 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) I too am testing the Beta Version of OS/2 + Win-OS/2 3.1. Like others I have found the problem in the PMHPO program. The Font displayed is not setable and extremely over sized. From your reply it appears that there will be a fix to the PMHPO program to correct this problem with the Beta version. Yet have you noticed that the OS/2 window prompt and the DOS window prompt have the wrong font weight displayed. Compare the font used in an OS/2 window prompt with that of a full screen command prompt. You will notice that while the spacing is the same the fonts are of different weights. If you compare this to the GA version of OS/2 2.0, both window and full screen use the same font type. The change to the Beta version might have been intentional but it is not obvious. I compared the settings of the GA to the Beta and they appear to be the same. I will continue testing the Beta version and shortly post my results Jerry Sitbon (718) 357-4369 ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 04:27:11 on 92/09/30 GMT (by IL14503 at OS2CUST) Subject: WIN 3.1 - NO Boot Hardware: Grid 386 @ 20mhz with 8Meg of memory UltraStor ULTRA 12F ESDI Controller with 314Meg ESDI drive OS/2 V2.0 works fine with this setup. I installed the beta 32bit graphics engine and this worked fine also. I ran the WINSTALL program and installed the WIN3.1 disks and now the system will not boot. From listening to the disk, it seems to start loading the operating system but then you can hear the drive seeking back and forth to what seems like opposite ends of the disk. After hearing the disk seek back and forth for 10 attempts, the computer goes silent and the screen is blank. As a long shot, I tried replacing C:\OS2\IBM1S506.ADD with the APAR'ed driver I was using on OS/2 2.0 but the results are the same (disk seeks back and forth for 10 times then quits). Any ideas?? rgds Brad Harrison Smith Meter Inc. 1602 Wagner Ave. Brad Harrison / Smith Meter Inc. ----- OS2GRWIN CFORUM appended at 11:47:33 on 92/09/30 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE83) Subject: I was asked by someone on the NSC BBS to post this. OS/2 2.0(1) and WIN/OS2 32GRE Install went without trouble. Saw changes to the config.sys that did not affect too much. Toshiba CD-Rom came up as a drive E, with no way to access (double click opened and closed window real quick). Looked at the config.sys, saw what drivers and used the old ones from OS/2 2.0, which fixed the problem. Install of WIN/OS2 32GRE went well, except for the SoundBlaster portion of it. Needs a file (supposedly on disk 3, but not on any of the 30 that were sent) called VSBD.386. Without this, no sound through the SB is possible (this includes standard WAV's). Otherwise Install went fine. Upon initial use, DOS was unable to run COMM programs (BBS style). Made major changes in the EXE's (nice feature of different AutoExec's mad this possible). Tried to use COMMO in OS2/DOS, found that it would not D/L without error. Had to shutdown MEMSIZE to get error free D/L's and found that NOTHING can be running in the background (at least not accessed) during a D/L as it will cause the D/L to abort. I have had this problem with ALL the "New" COM drivers, and I plan on trying the "original" (3-30-92) drivers, as they seemed to allow BG D/L's while running other processes. Initial use also seemed faster than the 3-30-92 version, although the windows on the WPS seem to open a bit slower. Good Job on the overall package though. Jack Hiatt Marc Life Atlanta Ga. How about them BRAVES 
