OS/2 Professional Developers Kit 1992 November/Disc01/Disc01.mdf/os2bbs/os2bbs.cfo

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 This forum is supplied for demonstration purposes only and is
 accessible via the IBM OS/2 BBS system.  What you see below is the
 forum as it existed on 10/30/92.  The IBM OS/2 Bulletin Board System
 (BBS) is IBM's new electronic support offering for OS/2 Version 2.0.
 With OS/2 BBS you can electronically review OS/2 technical
 information, submit program defects to IBM, and receive information
 on how to solve problems.  Users of the OS/2 BBS not only include
 OS/2 customers, but the OS/2 expertise of the entire internal IBM
 community worldwide.  OS2BBS makes all this available via a local
 or toll free number in most major cities.

 To request a complete OS/2 BBS Information Package detailing
 the OS/2 BBS offering and including pricing and registration/access
 information, please call:  1-800-547-1283.

===== OS2BBS CFORUM created at 01:46:05 on 92/04/08 GMT (by HOPKINS at AUSVM8)
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----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 14:54:47 on 92/07/10 GMT (by AABA0EM at OS2CUST)
Subject: News and Announcements Update Notifications
Ref: Append at 20:18:14 on 92/07/08 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8)

I am reasonably certain that the "New news" message did not appear. This
was during the time your were having systems problems and new appends were
not appearing.

I liked the suggestion of only getting "real" new items when selecting
"new items." The other suggestion of flagging those fora with new items
is also good.

Now that I am learing to navigate through this interface I find that I can
do most everything I need to do. It just isn't as easy as I would like.

The ability to navigate levels by changing the level number is useful. However,
it requires the user to understand what the level numbers are. Also there
doesn't seem to be a quick way to get the cursor to this field from the
keyboard.

Bob, not intuitive, Holmes, Southern California Gas

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 18:08:10 on 92/07/10 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST)
..... OS2BBS CFORUM modified at 18:50:50 on 92/07/10 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST)
Subject: News and Announcements Update Notifications
This APPEND was deleted at 14:50:49 on 07/10/92 EST.

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 20:22:42 on 92/07/10 GMT (by AABA0EM at OS2CUST)
Subject: News and Announcements Update Notifications
Ref: Append at 18:08:10 on 92/07/10 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST)

SinceF10 takes you to the action bar it wouldn't seem to make any
difference if the Action Bar were on the second line and level was a the
home position. This might upset CUA purists who think that the action bar is su
pposed to be on the first line.

By the way, the order of the items on the action bar doesn't really make that
much difference since you can type an e and enter to get email.

If you haven't done a lot of experimenting with the interface on this BBS I
would encourage you to try. It really is amazing the tings you can do that
the help system doesn't tell you about.

Bob, I like to me amazed, Holmes Southern California Gas

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 22:26:55 on 92/07/10 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8)
Subject: Enhancements to the OS2BBS
Ref:     Append at 22:21:50 on 92/07/09 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST)

Dan,

  There is an Offline PM interface coming "shortly" (where have I
said that before). It is named FORBROWS and has been discussed in
this forum many times in the past.

You will probably like it very much when it does become available.

Stephen Poole
OS/2 Service and Support - IBM Austin, TX

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 01:00:57 on 92/07/11 GMT (by IL26761 at OS2CUST)
Subject: News and Announcements Update Notifications
Ref: Append at 18:08:10 on 92/07/10 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST)

Tracy,

Why worry about were the item is, it's just as easy in most cases to just
enter the capitalized letter and go that way.

Jack Hiatt   MARC-Life   Atlanta Ga.

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 17:58:35 on 92/07/13 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Enhancements to the OS2BBS
Ref: Append at 22:26:55 on 92/07/10 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8)

Stephen,

  You do pop up all over the place! FORBROWS (not an HPFS name!) is duly
marked down in anticipation.

My own wish list (which prolly dupes others):

* Threading
* Cue me to Areas I last posted in (i.e., to check on responses)
* NEW alerts (anything new - software, posts, etc)
* Read and Respond (typically respond to post while reading a thread)

More fanciful

* PM graphic support of PIC of current Poster if on file
* API to FORBROWS (yes yes yes)

Tnx,

Dan Lundy          Time Customer Service, Inc.                      Tampa, Fl

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 00:38:11 on 92/07/14 GMT (by PNWB016 at OS2CUST)
Subject: More OS/2 fixes available?

I just noticed that Irv Spalten put some more OS/2 fixes up on CIS.  Are
their plans to put those fixes on the OS2BBS? He also mentioned some new
WINOS2 driver for Laserjets that are "up to 6 times faster than the
drivers shipped". Does there happen to be an ETA for those drivers on
OS2BBS?

Wayne "Anxious for more fixes" Holmes

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 01:49:56 on 92/07/14 GMT (by IL78568 at OS2CUST)
Subject: News and Announcements Update Notifications
Ref: Append at 14:54:47 on 92/07/10 GMT (by AABA0EM at OS2CUST)

I usually go to the last msg and read through in reverse order using F9.
If I decide to exit while reading a message (or get to the 1st item),
then two consecutive backtab key strokes will position me on the level
field where I can type 2 to go to another forum, 1 to go to the opening
menu, or 0 to exit the OS2BBS altogether.

One note, using 0 to exit sometimes results in confusing messages which,
if responded to, can cause you to get lost ....

Brooks McNeely - Martin Marietta Energy Systems, Inc.

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 05:28:34 on 92/07/14 GMT (by IL13285 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Timeline for "FORBROWS" or other offline BBS utility
Ref: Append at 18:25:17 on 92/07/09 GMT (by SYKES at ATLSER) -

Thank You for your answer, Stephen.  I appreciate what you are
striving for and applaud IBM for that dedication.  However, I feel
that once again IBM is in a situation caused not by the product, but
the communication (ie- marketing).  Perhaps it would behoove IBM to
let the users know what is in store instead of the nebulous appends
by internal folks talking about how great this product is that the
general public has no access to.  Another suggestion is to extend the
service period for those people who are getting it free with GA to
include only the time after the release date.  Also, if this is truly
an IBM official project and not another valient effort by the
wonderful Team OS/2, isn't there also an official IBM variety project
plan???  If so, that information should be passed along.  As an EEPer
(and OS/2 Share the Enthusiasm winner), I would like to see 2.0 truly
achieve its great destiny.  However, IBM needs to be able to
communicate with the customers what its VERY talented development
team (and unofficial, beyond the call of duty TEAM OS/2 people) have
been doing.  Unlike nanoSoft, IBM has the product, but not the marketing.

Again, thank you for your response; please let the rest of your
supporters know IBM's plans.

David B. Mason

David B. Mason

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 13:12:40 on 92/07/14 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8)
Subject: Timeline for "FORBROWS" or other offline BBS utility
Ref:     Append at 05:28:34 on 92/07/14 GMT (by IL13285 at OS2CUST)

Dave,

  There really isn't much more to tell about PMHPO and FORBROWS.
They are an "official" development effort but not by the OS/2 2.0
folks in Boca. They are being done as a joint effort under IBMLink,
IBM Labs in Watson, and IBM Support in Dallas and Austin. They are not
at this time considered part of OS/2 2.0 and thus have no affect on any
"extension of service period". They are products of IBMLink and this
BBS in particular. Any project plan or variety project plan that may
exist would be IBM Confidential and could not be posted in the forums.

Stephen Poole
OS/2 Service and Support - IBM Austin, TX

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 14:51:54 on 92/07/14 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)
Subject: More OS/2 fixes available?
Ref: Append at 00:38:11 on 92/07/14 GMT (by PNWB016 at OS2CUST)

I'm working on these as we speak.  Irv sent me the fixes yesterday
but they didn't arrive at my userid until late last night.  They
should be there shortly....

Brent Allen - IBM OS/2 Base Services Support

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 15:53:53 on 92/07/14 GMT (by IL80988 at OS2CUST)
Subject: import data to pricing configurator

is it possible to insert additional information into the pricing configurator
such as software, and would this file reside?

Randy Rudolph, AAA, [phone]

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 18:08:49 on 92/07/14 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)
Subject: More OS/2 fixes available?
Ref: Append at 14:51:54 on 92/07/14 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)

The new fixes are now available on the BBS. There are three new fixes
and an updated version of the REXX20 fix. The three new ones are:

HPFS: Fixes CHKDSK reporting a problem with SWAPPER.DAT as well as an
      IPE error with CPS:Extents.

BLKICO: Fixes the problem with black icons on the desktop.

HPLJW: Replacement HP LaserJet Windows driver.  Prints up to 6 times faster.

Brent Allen - IBM OS/2 Base Services Support

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 21:03:52 on 92/07/14 GMT (by NAXI8EM at OS2CUST)
Subject: PS/2 Assistant - 56th Edition, When?

 (no text entered)

Mark T. Regan, Nationwide Ins., Network Services

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 21:03:53 on 92/07/14 GMT (by NAXI8EM at OS2CUST)
Subject: PS/2 Assistant - 56th Edition, When?

When will it be available here? I noticed that it has been on the National
Support Center BBS since July 10th.

Thanks

Mark T. Regan, Nationwide Ins., Network Services

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 02:58:35 on 92/07/15 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST)
Subject: More OS/2 fixes available?
Ref: Append at 18:08:49 on 92/07/14 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)

Brent,

Just thought I'd let you know that my limited testing showed a minimum of 8
times faster.

Tracy Pipkin, Amoco Production Company - Houston, TX, [phone]

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 03:22:15 on 92/07/15 GMT (by PNWB016 at OS2CUST)
Subject: More OS/2 fixes available?
Ref: Append at 18:08:49 on 92/07/14 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)

Brent: Thanks for getting the fixes up. I was especially interested in the
HPFS update... unfortunately it didn't include the HPFS fix I am
waiting for.

The good news is that the HPFS and "black window" fixes are on my machine
and seem to be working just fine.

Wayne Holmes

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 12:16:47 on 92/07/15 GMT (by IL62623 at OS2CUST)
Subject: PMHPO

I'm being completely frustrated by PMHPO. It hangs constantly,
forcing me to disconnect and redial. Does this happen to anyone else?

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 14:45:11 on 92/07/15 GMT (by RLGINES at CHGVMIC1)
Subject: More OS/2 fixes available?
Ref:     Append at 18:08:49 on 92/07/14 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)

Here's a stupid question.  These files that are available on the OS2BBS
can be found internally on what disk?  I am assuming that we are not
talking about OS2TOOLS or OS2PROD here.

Thanks.

Ronald L. Gines

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 15:15:49 on 92/07/15 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)
Subject: More OS/2 fixes available?
Ref: Append at 14:45:11 on 92/07/15 GMT (by RLGINES at CHGVMIC1)

For IBM internal users, these fixes are available on the OS2CSD disk.
Some fixes available to customers are also on the OS2TOOLS disk.
Refer to the OS220FIX Package for a list of which ones are where.

Brent Allen - IBM OS/2 Base Services Support

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 15:17:33 on 92/07/15 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)
Subject: PS/2 Assistant - 56th Edition, When?
Ref: Append at 21:03:53 on 92/07/14 GMT (by NAXI8EM at OS2CUST)

#56 is now available.  For some reason it never reached our internal
disk so I wasn't aware that the new one was out.  Sorry for the delay.

Brent Allen - IBM OS/2 Base Services Support

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 15:19:53 on 92/07/15 GMT (by ERICM2 at SPPVM1)
Subject: More OS/2 fixes available?
Ref:     Append at 14:45:11 on 92/07/15 GMT (by RLGINES at CHGVMIC1)

The files are on a special disk owned by OS2BBS. They are not accessible like
the TOOLSRUN disks are.

Eric Merkel      SHOW Development               Tampa, FL

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 16:07:42 on 92/07/15 GMT (by RLGINES at CHGVMIC1)
Subject: More OS/2 fixes available?
Ref:     Append at 15:15:49 on 92/07/15 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)

Thanks!  There's simply too much information and programs to keep track of <g>.

Ronald L. Gines

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 16:31:47 on 92/07/15 GMT (by XXICBC01 at TORVMCOP)
Subject: Subject Field in Digest

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned in the numerous comments
regarding the usability of this BBS. When you look at the summary
list of any of the Digests they show details about the person who
moved them over to this BBS. The Subject line which is contained in
each entry is not shown.

Without this it seems that the Digests are totally useless on the
OS2BBS. You can't use search since it only looks at the
subject line shown in the summary. So how would you find a comment
about an ATI card (for example)? Am I missing something? Is this
peculiar to OS2BBS I access via IBMLink up here in the Great White
North?

I concur with the many comments about the usability of this BBS,
especially being able to follow appends forward.

Elwin Witzke
Insurance Corporation of British Columbia, N. Vancouver, B.C.

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 20:55:33 on 92/07/15 GMT (by NIKOROPO at SFOVMIC1)
Subject: import data to pricing configurator
Ref:     Append at 15:53:53 on 92/07/14 GMT (by IL80988 at OS2CUST)

Randy,  the configurator is a buildtime/runtime environment.  What is on
the BBS is the runtime only so there is no way you can add anything into
the configuration file (which is binary).

     Neil Koropoff
     Seattle, WA

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 18:21:50 on 92/07/17 GMT (by LNK1SM3 at MARTLINK)
Subject: PMHPO
Ref: Append at 12:16:47 on 92/07/15 GMT (by IL62623 at OS2CUST)

To Whom it may Concern,
There is about to be a new version of PMHPO to come out. We are hoping
to get this new veriosn out soon. Please wait the new version of PMHPO
will be more stable and faster. Also if you would put how PMHPO is
failing we might be able to help.

Thank You.

Joseph A. Mogavero

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 04:04:44 on 92/07/19 GMT (by PCBW022 at OS2CUST)
Subject: PMHPO
Ref: Append at 18:21:50 on 92/07/17 GMT (by LNK1SM3 at MARTLINK)

Joseph --
Is it possible to add the functionality contained in PMHPO to Communications
Manager in ES 1.x?  This would seem to be a preferred solution in the OS/2
community.  As a matter of fact, it would seem that a communications package
emulating synchronous protocols for file transfers, ect. would be a marketable
product in and of itself. . .

I have asked about this functionality before and have recieved a nice reply
from the IIN folks about "proprietary hardware and protocols". . .  If there is
any interested in releasing a version of Communications Manager with the
ability to dial up a host and conduct an ASYNC IND$FILE transfer, quite a few
of us out here in customer-land would be lining up to buy the product. .  .

Jay Johnson - Power Computing Company - Dallas, Tx.

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 18:36:39 on 92/07/20 GMT (by IL39800 at OS2CUST)
Subject: PMHPO
Ref: Append at 04:04:44 on 92/07/19 GMT (by PCBW022 at OS2CUST)

We are accessing the BBS via INPCS HPO software as a technical coordinator.
How do we go about receiving PMHPO?

Chris Silsby, Michigan Dept. of Treasury

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 22:00:57 on 92/07/21 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Forum Request: SOM

I request a forum, dedicated to SOM, be created.

I don't know how much common interest there may be in such a forum, but
I would watch and participate in it religiously!

The Workplace forum is user oriented. I NEED the forum to specialize in
SOM programming, debugging, testing, designing, crying, and begging: the
six methods I Associate most with SOM.

Please consider this an offical APPEAL to the powers that be. If you
want user sponsorship -- I volunteer my time.

Anyone else interested in a <!> SOM away from Home???

Dan Lundy          Time Customer Service, Inc.                      Tampa, Fl

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 19:33:24 on 92/07/22 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP)
Subject: Forum Request: SOM
Ref:     Append at 22:00:57 on 92/07/21 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST)

I second for the motion.
       SOM is a GREAT environment\tool for the future we should use
it. The first step is a CFORUM for the support.

Geza Szivos
NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583
NHO-32 801-7th Ave Calgary, Alberta, CANADA  T2P 2N6

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 17:05:34 on 92/07/23 GMT (by VA06582 at OS2CUST)
Subject: IBM Support Menu change

I'd like to suggest the options 1 and 2, on the IBM Support Menu (panel 1),
be reversed.

This change would be more consistent with the other panels on the BBS,
in that a quick review of existing problem reports is simply a press
of the <enter> key.

%:->

Bill Pier @ Hughes Aircraft, Fullerton, CA

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 21:13:42 on 92/07/23 GMT (by IL78568 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Another Usability Concern

Since I feel like complaining today:

I am finally becoming more practiced in my use of this BBS system.
My access is via CM using a corporate link with IIN, then through
IBMLink.

I frequently read OS/2 Tech Q's & A's on IBMLink as well as ANnouncements.
Can anyone tell me why I page back and forth on IBMLink using F10 and F11,
and on the OS2BBS I have to use F9 and F10.  F11 usually doesn't cause
me much problems on OS2BBS, but F9 on IBMLink always aggravates me, since
that usually puts me at some kind of Print function screen.

I can't believe that two such similar functions on two related (perhaps
only incestuously) offerings use overlapping and different keys.

This is another source or irritation that I hope PMHPO will defuse.

Brooks McNeely - Martin Marietta Energy Systems, Inc.

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 21:39:20 on 92/07/23 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)
Subject: PMHPO
Ref: Append at 18:36:39 on 92/07/20 GMT (by IL39800 at OS2CUST)

When PMHPO is ready and available for general distribution, you'll be
able to download it from the Software Library.  It is not there yet but
you'll see an announcement in this forum and in News & Announcements when
it does become available.

Brent Allen - IBM OS/2 Base Services Support

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 15:03:14 on 92/07/24 GMT (by AAEE1AN at OS2CUST)
Subject: Another Usability Concern
Ref: Append at 21:13:42 on 92/07/23 GMT (by IL78568 at OS2CUST)

I vigorously second the complaint.

Having on IBMLINK 2 sets of PFK definitions that I can't change and have to
switch between (IBMLINK proper and PROFS) is bad enough. Adding another for
the OS2BBS is adding insult to injury.

From a human-factors standpoint, there should only be the ONE SET OF PFK
DEFINITIONS, and it should be based on the basic IBMLINK set. Granted, the
three applications (IBMLINK, PROFS and OS2BBS) have partially-disjoint
function sets. Where the functions overlap, *USE THE SAME KEYS*!

Standards are truly wonderful. That's why we have so many of them.

Mike Andrews, Okla. Dept. of Transportation [phone]

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 18:28:23 on 92/07/24 GMT (by ERICM2 at SPPVM1)
Subject: Another Usability Concern
Ref:     Append at 15:03:14 on 92/07/24 GMT (by AAEE1AN at OS2CUST)

Your complaints are well noted. Here at IBM, there is a strong push to move
all application to have a standard set PF key settings. The latest release
of PROFS under OV/VM has an option to go to the new PF key settings of
F7 & F8 for forward and back. Currently, the OS2BBS uses F7 & F8. As new
releases come out, other applications will have this ability.

Again, it has been realized that this is a major usability problem for people
who use many different applications, and we are moving to standardize this
situation. Thank you for your input here.

Eric Merkel      IIN Special Projects / SHOW Development          Tampa, FL

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 19:55:11 on 92/07/24 GMT (by IL62623 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Where's the service?

I've had a question pending in Base Programming for over a week
with no response whatever. For this I'm paying?

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 21:44:23 on 92/07/24 GMT (by AABA0EM at OS2CUST)
Subject: Another Usability Concern
Ref: Append at 15:03:14 on 92/07/24 GMT (by AAEE1AN at OS2CUST)

Please add my voice to the shouut for PFKey consistency. Please PF11 for
next item and PF10 for previous item.

Also, when is View New Items going to be fixed so we only get new items which
we have not previously viewed? The current behavior drives me up the wall!

Bob, Just the new items, Maam, Holmes Southern California Gas

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 22:09:44 on 92/07/24 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Uploading large comments

I have seen a number of multi-screen messages and wondered how these folks
did it and upon further reflection it appears that as they are IBMers that
they could upload the message rather than re-typing it.

Is there anyway to upload to this conference (os2bbs) so that messages
can be composed offline...?

Thanks.

btw.  Please don't require pmhpo to do so.  OS/2 Communications Manager
should be just as acceptable to do this simple task.

Lionel Dyck - Rockwell International, Information Systems Center

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 03:04:43 on 92/07/25 GMT (by XXCAIL12 at TORVMCOP)
Subject: Time Zone of BBS
Ref:     Append at 21:04:34 on 92/06/26 GMT (by IL78568 at OS2CUST)

FYI

GMT (now more properly called Coordinated Universal Time) is the
reference time at Meridian 0.  It does not have a Daylight Savings
although areas of England might.  All timezones are relative to GMT:

Zone   Adjustment    Example     Daylight Saving Time

GMT        0         15:00               0     15:00
EST       -5         10:00       EDT    -4     11:00
CST       -6         09:00       CDT    -5     10:00
MST       -7         08:00       MDT    -6     09:00
PST       -8         07:00       PDT    -7     08:00

Hope this helps.

Barry Thomas
Canadian Airlines
Vancouver, B.C. Canada    [phone]

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 14:34:36 on 92/07/25 GMT (by HNDERSON at AUSVM8)
Subject: Another Usability Concern
Ref:     Append at 21:13:42 on 92/07/23 GMT (by IL78568 at OS2CUST)
Brooks, unforunately the "PF" keys are a HOST function, PMHPO will
probably give you the same problem.  The change would need to be
made on the "HOST" side.

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 12:31:31 on 92/07/27 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Another Usability Concern
Ref: Append at 21:44:23 on 92/07/24 GMT (by AABA0EM at OS2CUST)

Bob,

I also HATE the way "View New Items" works.  Hey IBM - if you can't (or won't)
fix it, please change the name!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If it ain't new - DON'T SHOW IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How many times do we have to ask for this to be fixed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tracy Pipkin, Amoco Production Company - Houston, TX, [phone]

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 14:08:57 on 92/07/27 GMT (by WDCOOK at CHGVMIC1)
Subject: Where's the service?
Ref:     Append at 19:55:11 on 92/07/24 GMT (by IL62623 at OS2CUST)
May I suggest that you try asking your questions on one of the
independent BBS across the country.  They are listed in a file on
OS2BBS (this forum).  The filename is PS2ASST.EXE and is updated
periodically.  The current version is V57.
This file is also available on several of the independent BBSs.  One
that I am familiar with is GREATER CHICAGO Online in Chicago.  The
number is [phone] and services up to 9600 BPS V.32.

Bill Cook, IBM Chicago

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 14:41:56 on 92/07/27 GMT (by AABA0EM at OS2CUST)
Subject: Another Usability Concern
Ref: Append at 12:31:31 on 92/07/27 GMT (by ZTKP01 at OS2CUST)

Tracy,

If we use OS/2 2.0 as an example, it appears that IBM measures success by how
much of a customer's time can be wasted.

That metric should make the GA - Beta 1 OS/2 2.0 code a howling success. The
OS2BBS is just following that model with the "show 'new' items" selection.
New in this case means folowing some strange algorithm which is seeded with
a random number.

Bob, IBM doesn't pay me for my time, Holmes Southern California Gas

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 15:02:06 on 92/07/27 GMT (by MLIC002 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Message Threads

It would be nice to be able to follow message threads when in the forums.
If I see a new message that anwsers a question I'm interested in, I would
like to hit a function key that would take me backwards to the next message
with the same subject.  Also if I'm searching though messages and want to see
the responce I would like to hit another function key that would take me to
the next message with the same subject.

Baz

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 18:58:36 on 92/07/27 GMT (by AAEE1AN at OS2CUST)
..... OS2BBS CFORUM modified at 16:03:33 on 92/07/28 GMT (by AAEE1AN at OS2CUST)
Subject: Message Threads
This APPEND was deleted at 12:03:32 on 07/28/92 EST.

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 15:09:17 on 92/07/28 GMT (by AABA0EM at OS2CUST)
Subject: Another Usability Concern
Ref: Append at 21:44:23 on 92/07/24 GMT (by AABA0EM at OS2CUST)

Would IBM care to give me the courtesy of a reply?

View New Items has been broken since day one on this BBS!

The fact that it is broken is wasting my time and the time of everyone trying
to use this BBS!

When is the imperial IBM going grant users the boon of fixing it?

Bob, getting tired of fighting IBM, Holmes Southern California Gas

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 17:59:48 on 92/07/28 GMT (by NAXI8EM at OS2CUST)
Subject: Another Usability Concern
Ref: Append at 15:09:17 on 92/07/28 GMT (by AABA0EM at OS2CUST)

View New seems to be working okay for me. When I log on, I only see those
items that are new since I logged on from the previous day.

Mark T. Regan, Nationwide Ins., Network Services

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 18:28:15 on 92/07/28 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)
Subject: Uploading large comments
Ref: Append at 22:09:44 on 92/07/24 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST)

It is possible to write your appends offline today using Comm Mgr.
Go through the steps as if you were going to type in the append online.
When you get to the text entry screen, press F5-Refresh.  That will pop
up a menu from which you then select number 4 - Get text from a PC file.
That will bring up a screen that give instructions to issue the SEND
command to upload a text file that you've created on your PC.
After the upload, you should see the text on your screen and can proceed
from there (F3 then Mail).

Brent Allen - IBM OS/2 Base Services Support

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 18:35:32 on 92/07/28 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)
Subject: Another Usability Concern
Ref: Append at 15:09:17 on 92/07/28 GMT (by AABA0EM at OS2CUST)

Bob,
Please give the Show New a try.  Some new code is in place now that
should fix it.  Sorry for the delay.

Brent Allen - IBM OS/2 Base Services Support

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 19:30:10 on 92/07/28 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)
Subject: Another Usability Concern
Ref: Append at 18:35:32 on 92/07/28 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)

FYI everyone...  With the new "Show New", brand new items may show up
more than once, but only if it had just been added within the last
minute or two.  The clocks on the master conference disk system and the
BBS system are off by a couple of minutes so some items may have a
timestamp AFTER the current system time.  This will currently cause the
item to show up as new until the system clock passes the append's timestamp.
Again, it's only about 1 1/2 minutes right now but I wanted you to know
that Show New still isn't quite perfect (but certainly better I hope).

Brent Allen - IBM OS/2 Base Services Support

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 19:57:56 on 92/07/28 GMT (by AABA0EM at OS2CUST)
Subject: Another Usability Concern
Ref: Append at 18:35:32 on 92/07/28 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)

The new code has good news and bad news.

The good news, it seems to work for the first forum I go to after logging on.

The bad news, going to other forums during the same log on I seem to get all
of the items in the forum when I select view new. Same thing happens when I
return to a forum I have already viewed during this session after visiting
other fora.

Bob, Please test it better, Holmes Southern California Gas

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 20:32:42 on 92/07/28 GMT (by WZ00627 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Downloading files

Please tell me how to download files.  I am using a DOS version of HPO
because the OS/2 version would not work on my machine.  I have a mouse
attached to COM1 so I use COM2 for communications.
Why does it seem to be such a pain?????
I have tried to do exactly what the window for downloading says but it
does not seem to work.

HELP!!!

David Rickerson NCH Corp.

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 20:49:28 on 92/07/28 GMT (by AABA0EM at OS2CUST)
Subject: Another Usability Concern
Ref: Append at 19:57:56 on 92/07/28 GMT (by AABA0EM at OS2CUST)

Now that I've logged on a second time the View New seems to be working
again. If you don't hear me whine again it should be safe to assume that
its working ok.

Thanks!

New whine. An item seems to be treated as "old" if it has appeared on the
selection list of the forum even if you haven't actually viewed it.Is this
true?

Bob, Never mind, Holmes Southern California Gas

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 21:33:39 on 92/07/28 GMT (by AAEE1AN at OS2CUST)
Subject: Another Usability Concern
Ref: Append at 18:35:32 on 92/07/28 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)

Brent,

The new code appears to work, so far ...

Thanx.

Mike Andrews, Mgr, Tech support, Okla. Dept. of Transportation [phone]

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 21:39:45 on 92/07/28 GMT (by IL87812 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Downloading and Procomm

Is there any way that I can use Procomm to download files.

Paul Moran (Hearst Magazines)

Paul

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 21:40:20 on 92/07/28 GMT (by ERICM2 at SPPVM1)
Subject: Downloading files
Ref:     Append at 20:32:42 on 92/07/28 GMT (by WZ00627 at OS2CUST)

What exactly doesn't work. Does the DOS side get started with the download at
all ??

Can you get to the DOS side of INPCS ??

Eric Merkel      IIN Special Projects/SHOW Development           Tampa, FL

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 21:46:33 on 92/07/28 GMT (by ERICM2 at SPPVM1)
Subject: Downloading and Procomm
Ref:     Append at 21:39:45 on 92/07/28 GMT (by IL87812 at OS2CUST)

I don't believe that Procomm supports IND$FILE transfer, so it wont' work.

Eric Merkel      IIN Special Projects / SHOW Development           Tampa, FL

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 23:13:11 on 92/07/28 GMT (by CAPPS at BCRVMPC2)
Subject: Downloading and Procomm
Ref:     Append at 21:46:33 on 92/07/28 GMT (by ERICM2 at SPPVM1)

I don't know about Procomm, but Procomm Plus supports external download
programs.  If a download program is available for DOS that
supports IND$FILE, then it could be used with Procomm Plus to download.

Louis Capps
PS/2 Server System Development

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 18:27:45 on 92/07/29 GMT (by ALLISON at CARVM3)
Subject: Suggestions on a BBS software package??

I am setting up a BBS for AD/Cycle and SystemView (I are in
Vendor relations). My quest -- what software package to use for
setting up this BBS. Any suggestions? It would save me downloading
lots of files to look around in, thanks.

I'd like an OS/2 2.0 BBS. Any suggestions?

David  Allison

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 20:16:35 on 92/07/29 GMT (by GREENB at FSHVMFK1)
Subject: Suggestions on a BBS software package??
Ref:     Append at 18:27:45 on 92/07/29 GMT (by ALLISON at CARVM3)

Many people are using the MAXIMUS package.  I think it is written in
C and the source is available.

     -Bart

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 20:24:58 on 92/07/29 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)
Subject: Downloading files
Ref: Append at 20:32:42 on 92/07/28 GMT (by WZ00627 at OS2CUST)

David,
You'll need to do one thing differently than what is shown on the screen
since INPCS-HPO runs under DOS instead of OS/2.  Issue the command:

RECEIVE SHOWTOPC.BAT SHOWTOPC BAT A (ASCII CRLF

(Use .BAT instead of .CMD)

If you're having problems even getting the SHOWTOPC file downloaded,
then what sort of message are you getting?

Brent Allen - IBM OS/2 Base Services Support

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 20:36:23 on 92/07/29 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)
Subject: Another Usability Concern
Ref: Append at 20:49:28 on 92/07/28 GMT (by AABA0EM at OS2CUST)

That's true.  You get one shot, and one shot only, to view "New" items.
If you do a Show New and only look at half of them, the other half
will not be treated as new the next time.  Basically, the system will
remember the time that you last viewed a forum.  Anything before that
time is old, anything after that time is new.  It doesn't keep track
of which individual forum appends you have or have not viewed.  :-(

Brent Allen - IBM OS/2 Base Services Support

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 01:11:39 on 92/07/30 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE82)
Subject: Suggestions on a BBS software package??
Ref: Append at 18:27:45 on 92/07/29 GMT (by ALLISON at CARVM3)

Dave,
You might want to contact the NSC BBS in Atlanta and check out the BBS
package they are running.  It is an OS/2 based package and seems to be
working real well for them.

Jack Hiatt  Marc Life  Atlanta Ga.

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 01:16:01 on 92/07/30 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE82)
Subject: Suggestions on a BBS software package??
Ref: Append at 18:27:45 on 92/07/29 GMT (by ALLISON at CARVM3)

Dave,
You might want to contact the NSC BBS in Atlanta and check out the BBS
package they are running.  It is an OS/2 based package and seems to be
working real well for them.

Jack Hiatt  Marc Life  Atlanta Ga.

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 04:25:38 on 92/07/30 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST)
Subject: IBM Employee Developed Software Forum Request

How about a forum for discussions about the IBM Employee Developed Software
that has been released to the public (e.g. PMFTERM)?

Lionel Dyck - Rockwell International, Information Systems Center

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 12:10:38 on 92/07/30 GMT (by TRAUTMAN at PKEDVM8)
Subject: IBM Employee Developed Software Forum Request
Ref:     Append at 04:25:38 on 92/07/30 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST)

This sounds like a good Idea.

Bill Trautman

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 12:25:51 on 92/07/30 GMT (by USCC006 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Re-registration

At seemingly random intervals when I access OS2BBS from IBMLINK, I am asked
to enter my name and additional information for the purpose of updating user
information.  When I do, a message says something like "new user registration
complete."  The intervals vary from one day to several weeks.

Is this normal?

Thanks.

Jerry Allen - University of South Carolina

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 15:51:14 on 92/07/30 GMT (by DWPX177 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Viewing only my own notes or responses

Would it be possible to add the capability to view all of ones submitted
items, and their responses, as a FIND option, or subject choice?

With two screens of subjects, and dozens of screens within them, this would
improve usability tremendously.

Larry Wagner - LADWP [phone]

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 16:06:15 on 92/07/30 GMT (by NAAO3IY at OS2CUST)
Subject: Two items it would be nice to download from here

PS2REF, the PostScript documents from Roger Dodson.

Updates to the OS/2 2.0 Remote Installation and Maintenance diskette
(associated with GG24-3780).

John Kennedy -- Hoechst Celanese, Bridgewater, NJ

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 16:13:15 on 92/07/30 GMT (by NAAO3IY at OS2CUST)
Subject: Suggestions on a BBS software package??
Ref: Append at 18:27:45 on 92/07/29 GMT (by ALLISON at CARVM3)

Some people find it quirky, but MultiNet has become familiar to many
OS/2 _users_ because it is used on the NSC BBS (where Paul Breedlove,
the author, is known to hang out). It runs on OS/2.

John Kennedy -- Hoechst Celanese, Bridgewater, NJ

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 13:06:40 on 92/07/31 GMT (by MHIATT at OS2CUST)
Subject: Download Failure

I am no longer successful in selecting and downloading items from this service.
 I will select an item for down load and receive a message that it has been sel
ected but when I go through the download dialog it indicates the nothing has
been selected for download. This has been working fine until last Monday or Tue
sday. I do not know how to correct the problem.

Thanks for any help you may be.

One suggestion could there be a means provided for capturing all the new
messages and downloading them with out having to go through all the screens
and individually tag the items two times. Further how about presenting items
oldest to newest when viewing the new items. It is very disturbing to read the
answer befor you know the question. We are not Carnack the Magnificant.

Terry Baughman - Columbia Gas System - IBMMAIL(USCGSTH5)

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 13:43:28 on 92/07/31 GMT (by DARKELF at BCRVM1)
Subject: Suggestions on a BBS software package??
Ref:     Append at 01:16:01 on 92/07/30 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE82)

We already started an internal forum on this subject, it is called
os2ews (employee written software).

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 14:31:57 on 92/07/31 GMT (by ERICM2 at SPPVM1)
Subject: Download Failure
Ref:     Append at 13:06:40 on 92/07/31 GMT (by MHIATT at OS2CUST)

There is one screen in the download dialogue that you might have missed, or
not entered correctly. The screen titled 'TAGGED ITEM LIST', has the files
you selected for download. This screen requires you to mark your selections
again, with an 'S' in the left column. You might have missed this, because
if you don't enter anything, and just press ENTER, nothing is selected,
and the download fails.

Eric Merkel      IBM IIN Special Projects / SHOW Development    Tampa, FL

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 14:52:34 on 92/07/31 GMT (by MHIATT at OS2CUST)
Subject: VENDOR Program Again.
Ref: Append at 20:43:36 on 92/06/17 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)

I am also very interested in VENDOR. Since it has been well over a month since
this reaponse. Maybe there is further information which I haven't read yet.
Thanks

Terry Baughman - Columbia Gas System - IBMMAIL(USCGSTH5)

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 15:33:51 on 92/07/31 GMT (by MHIATT at OS2CUST)
Subject: Download Failure
Ref: Append at 14:31:57 on 92/07/31 GMT (by ERICM2 at SPPVM1)

No, that is just the problem when I go to the taged item list there are no
items in the list. This is immediately after selecting an item for the list.

Terry Baughman - Columbia Gas System - IBMMAIL(USCGSTH5)

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 20:02:25 on 92/07/31 GMT (by SRPIE05 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Re-registration
Ref: Append at 12:25:51 on 92/07/30 GMT (by USCC006 at OS2CUST)

  I too have the problem.  It seems as though, at times, either the profile
is lost or something.  I also have a problem with the OS2BBS loosing my
screen options and last-read pointers.

Thane - SRP

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 01:35:08 on 92/08/01 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE81)
Subject: VENDOR Program Again.
Ref: Append at 14:52:34 on 92/07/31 GMT (by MHIATT at OS2CUST)

Terry,
At one point I believe it was decided that it couldn't be downloaded from
the BBS.  I finally got thru my sales rep here in Atlanta.   I think it is
still available thru sales or workstation specialists if you have one.

Jack Hiatt  Marc Life  Atlanta Ga.

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 15:41:27 on 92/08/03 GMT (by PRCI041 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Last update date on main menu

I'd like to see on the main menu a last update date for the 'News' and 'Files'
sections on the board.  It would save time from having to go in to each section
to see if there have been any updates.

Mark Polly - Progressive Insurance

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 18:03:56 on 92/08/05 GMT (by NAAO3IY at OS2CUST)
..... OS2BBS CFORUM modified at 18:05:27 on 92/08/05 GMT (by NAAO3IY at OS2CUST)
Subject: Alphal.ZIP
This APPEND was deleted at 14:05:26 on 08/05/92 EST.

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 18:04:59 on 92/08/05 GMT (by NAAO3IY at OS2CUST)
Subject: AlphaL.ZIP

...is misdated on the tools page.

John Kennedy -- Hoechst Celanese, Bridgewater, NJ

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 13:18:39 on 92/08/06 GMT (by NAAG8T6 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Terminated - unknown error

I get a lot of 'OS2 bulletin board terminated with an unknown application
error on the OS2 bulletin board processor', when choosing OS2BBS from the
IBMLINK main menu. Like 5 tries to get in this morning (8:20 eastern).
WHY???

Bruce Ferrero (Aetna)

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 18:07:50 on 92/08/06 GMT (by AAEE1AN at OS2CUST)
Subject: Terminated - unknown error
Ref: Append at 13:18:39 on 92/08/06 GMT (by NAAG8T6 at OS2CUST)

I, too, am getting lots of "OS2BBS terminated due to unknown application error"
messages. It would not surprise me if other people were getting the same thing.

I suspect new, "improved" software is responsible.

I prefer the unimproved code.

Mike Andrews, Mgr, Tech support, Okla. Dept. of Transportation [phone]

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 19:38:31 on 92/08/06 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)
Subject: AlphaL.ZIP
Ref: Append at 18:04:59 on 92/08/05 GMT (by NAAO3IY at OS2CUST)

Misdated?  Everything is dated 8/4 which is the date of the Zip file and the
offical package date as it is distributed to us.

Brent Allen - IBM OS/2 Base Services Support

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 19:49:04 on 92/08/06 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)
Subject: Terminated - unknown error
Ref: Append at 18:07:50 on 92/08/06 GMT (by AAEE1AN at OS2CUST)

Don't know the cause just yet.  I've made some calls and have someone looking
into it.

Brent Allen - IBM OS/2 Base Services Support

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 20:51:16 on 92/08/06 GMT (by AAEE1AN at OS2CUST)
Subject: TCP/IP Section
Ref: Append at 02:01:49 on 92/07/07 GMT (by HITTR at OS2CUST)

Bob -

Are you folks (Mo. H&TD) on the Internet?

Mike Andrews, Mgr, Tech support, Okla. Dept. of Transportation [phone]

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 22:37:52 on 92/08/06 GMT (by IL48228 at OS2CUST)
Subject: CMS file not found ..

When I try to download some of the fixes and tools your system says can't locat
e the files.  When I return to the host display I see the message "CMS file not
 found; file transfer canceled." or a similar not found message at the Fixes li
st level.

I can download the SHOWTOPC files and $$SHOW$$.TXT files just fine but these al
l have a filemode of "A".  The fixes and tools have a filemode of "Z1", is ther
e some connection?  The fixes appear in my selected list and I can get the SHOW
TOPC file bu the actual ZIPs or DBGs it can't find.  Please HELP!

Brian Davelaar, City of Tacoma

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 13:38:37 on 92/08/07 GMT (by IL87263 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Fast Path to Forum Items

Are there any plans (or does it already exist) to add "Fast paths" to access
items on the various bulletin boards.  It's rather tiring to have to traverse
four levels of menus to access the items on a particular bulletin board.

George Lytle,  Dean Witter, New York, NY

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 14:11:45 on 92/08/07 GMT (by ERICM2 at SPPVM1)
Subject: CMS file not found ..
Ref:     Append at 22:37:52 on 92/08/06 GMT (by IL48228 at OS2CUST)

Please send a specific example of the files you couldn't download. If you still
have the SHOWTOPC.  file on your PC, please list it also.

Eric Merkel      IIN Special Projects / SHOW Development           Tampa, FL

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 19:33:03 on 92/08/07 GMT (by IL04688 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Way to download all messages for offline viewing

I would like to be able to download a zipped file with all of the messages
for a conference for some predetermined period of time, such as a weeks worth.
Even if the contents were a day delayed (zipped overnight) it would be much
less time consuming than paging through messages on this board, tagging and
then downloading those that are important to me.

Also, is there any easy way to reply to someone's message, or even follow
the thread assuming several replies come for a message I have left ?

Is it only the IBMLink interface or is this the unfriendliest bulletin board
in the PC domain ?

Leo Tornow

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 19:56:05 on 92/08/07 GMT (by ERICM2 at SPPVM1)
Subject: Way to download all messages for offline viewing
Ref:     Append at 19:33:03 on 92/08/07 GMT (by IL04688 at OS2CUST)

Please realize that this bulletin board is still very new. We will be adding
many new features, like the ones you requested, very soon.

For the mean time, to follow a particular subject or thread, select 'View All
Items', then select FIND for the subject you want. All the appends with that
subject will be displayed. To follow in date order, select the last append,
the one on the bottom or last page of the menu, then while viewing that item,
use the 'Item-1' key, F9, to step through the thread.

Eric Merkel      IIN Special Projects           Tampa, FL

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 20:35:04 on 92/08/07 GMT (by WZ00001 at LINK21)
Subject: Way to download all messages for offline viewing
Ref: Append at 19:33:03 on 92/08/07 GMT (by IL04688 at OS2CUST)

Leo, there has been a lot of discussion about this in thepast on this
forum.  There is a program in the works called Forbrows.  Watch the
news and announcements.

Paul King

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 22:45:04 on 92/08/07 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)
Subject: Fast Path to Forum Items
Ref: Append at 13:38:37 on 92/08/07 GMT (by IL87263 at OS2CUST)

No plans at this point.  Given the current menu options, if a fastpath were
implemented would you want the fastpath to do a "Show All" or "Show New"?

Brent Allen - IBM OS/2 Base Services Support

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 20:28:37 on 92/08/10 GMT (by NAAO3IY at OS2CUST)
Subject: AlphaL.ZIP
Ref: Append at 19:38:31 on 92/08/06 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)

I was referring to the package panel, which dated ALPHAL.ZIP 8/24 (I
think).  It's been fixed.

John Kennedy -- Hoechst Celanese, Bridgewater, NJ

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 22:24:38 on 92/08/10 GMT (by IL48228 at OS2CUST)
Subject: CMS file not found ..
Ref: Append at 14:11:45 on 92/08/07 GMT (by ERICM2 at SPPVM1)

The next time I logged in the downloads from "Z1" worked just as well as those
from "A".  I guess this doesn't need to be delt with unless it comes back.

Just for the record I tried the SHOWTOPC files but had better success moving on
e file at a time by typeing in my own RECEIVE.

Brian Davelaar, City of Tacoma

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 13:47:40 on 92/08/11 GMT (by AAEE1AN at OS2CUST)
Subject: Way to download all messages for offline viewing
Ref: Append at 20:35:04 on 92/08/07 GMT (by WZ00001 at LINK21)

Paul,

I know you folks are working head-down, fast, and furious, and I am grateful
for it; we depend on you to make it possible to do our business.

Likewise, I vastly prefer my software well-done (in both senses); the old
Journalism School approach of "Not good, but Wednesday" will not work for
any of us.

Even so, I would he happier to see FORBROWS than to hear how great it is.
I have been hearing how great FORBROWS will be (or is) since May (?), and
I think it is about time to put the software where the verbiage is.

** P L E A S E ** don't get me wrong - I am not angry about this. I simply
think that it is time to stop giving us "pie in the sky" - if it's not soup,
don't whet our appetites; if it is, then serve it.

Mike Andrews, Mgr, Tech support, Okla. Dept. of Transportation [phone]

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 15:16:49 on 92/08/11 GMT (by AABA0EM at OS2CUST)
Subject: Way to download all messages for offline viewing
Ref: Append at 19:33:03 on 92/08/07 GMT (by IL04688 at OS2CUST)

Leo,

Welcome to the most confusing and poorly documented user interface on the face
of the earth. Actually there is more thanone user interface. I access this
BBS via IBMLINK and if that is your access path then the following information
may help you.

To reply to a message:

While the message is on the screen type E for Email and you will get the
3270 equivalent of a Dialog Box. This window has two choices 1 for append
a new message and 2 reply to the current message.

For rapid navigation:

In the upper right quadrant of the screen there is a one character field that
indicates the level of the current panel. You can enter a number in this
field. For instance 0 will log you off, 1 takes you back to the top level
menu, 2 takes you back to the Forum selection screen.

Another bit of information:

If your cursor is located in front of a selection item pressing enter will
select that item. Entering a number will select the item with that number.
Entering a letter which corresponds with the capitalized letter of an item
in the action bar at the top of the screen selects that item.

I don't know why the helps for this system don't give this information.

Now that I have this much of the interface figured out it really isn't that
bad. I just don't have nice thoughts about IBM for forcing me to go through
the pain of learning this by trial and error!

Bob Holmes  Southern California Gas

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 19:37:01 on 92/08/11 GMT (by AABB0FC at OS2CUST)
Subject: ** FORBROWS ** should I laugh?

Any word yet on WHEN forbrows might be available?

Larry D. Smith  (Southern California Edison)

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 20:21:57 on 92/08/11 GMT (by IL78568 at OS2CUST)
Subject: ** FORBROWS ** should I laugh?
Ref: Append at 19:37:01 on 92/08/11 GMT (by AABB0FC at OS2CUST)

I noticed that an FTN is scheduled for Aug. 27 on the new OS2 BBS system.
I wondered if this would mean that the new user interface would be ready by
then.  I suspect everyone would like this to be true.

Brooks McNeely - Martin Marietta Energy Systems, Inc.

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 13:49:58 on 92/08/14 GMT (by WZ00694 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Need to download

When is the new version of PMHPO going to be ready.  It seems to me that being
unable to download fixes from the official IBM support BBS due to a lack of
progress on the IBM developed program to handle it is a sad state of affairs.
What kind of impression is IBM giving the new OS/2 users?  I have been able to
pick up the fixes from other BBS's, but if IBM is serious about OS/2 then the
official OS/2 BBS (which is a chargable item) should be functional with the
software that IBM writes to access it.

James Rueschhoff - Packer Plastics, Inc.

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 16:31:21 on 92/08/14 GMT (by NRMUMP at ATLVM2)
Subject: OS/2 BBS

I am presently an IBM Summer Hire. However, in a week, I will return
to civilian status and go off into the wild non-Big-Blue yonder...

During the time I have spent here this summer, I have found the
internal conferencing through VNET to be invaluable. As I understand
it, these CFORUM are accessible to customers (among whose ranks I
shall soon number) . How? Where can I find a list of the methods
(call-up numbers? Protocol? Communication program?) by which I can
access these conferences? In case it is relevant, I will be in Boston,
Massachusetts, and ought to have access to Internet/Bitnet/etc. through
my college's computer network.

If this is not the right place to get the answer I need, could someone
please direct me to a more appropriate conference?

advTHANKSance
-- Eric (I love OS/2 but my 40-MB drive gags on it) Mumpower

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 17:18:01 on 92/08/14 GMT (by TXCM042 at OS2CUST)
Subject: CMS file not found-2.

After typing the following command:

receive d:\showtopc.cmd a:showtopc bat a (ascii crlf

I get the message:

INDFT034   CMS file not found: file transfer canceled

So, what's the deal?

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 17:49:32 on 92/08/14 GMT (by ERICM2 at SPPVM1)
Subject: CMS file not found-2.
Ref:     Append at 17:18:01 on 92/08/14 GMT (by TXCM042 at OS2CUST)

Please help us out with more information:

1. Has this happened more than once ??

2. Were there any strange file names in any of the download dialogue windows ??

3. What file(s) were you trying to downlaod ??

4. Could you please try this operation again, and report the results.

We are having intermittent problems with downloading files.

Eric Merkel      IIN Special Projects / SHOW Development           Tampa, FL

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 18:28:11 on 92/08/14 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)
Subject: CMS file not found-2.
Ref: Append at 17:18:01 on 92/08/14 GMT (by TXCM042 at OS2CUST)

Provided the BBS is on your A session, everything in the command is correct.
Does this happen everytime or did it just happen once?

Brent Allen - IBM OS/2 Base Services Support

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 18:35:06 on 92/08/14 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)
Subject: OS/2 BBS
Ref: Append at 16:31:21 on 92/08/14 GMT (by NRMUMP at ATLVM2)

Eric: In the U.S., there are three ways to get access to the BBS CForums.

1) Become an IBMLink Technical Coordinator
2) Signup for Software Mall
3) Signup as an OS/2 BBS user.

Most likely, you'd be interested in #3.  Call 1-800-547-1283 for information
on registration, charges, and how to access.

Access via Internet/Bitnet is not currently supported.  It's one of those
things that may happen in the future, but it's not currently being worked
on as far as I know.

Brent Allen - IBM OS/2 Base Services Support

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 21:14:19 on 92/08/14 GMT (by WZ00001 at LINK21)
Subject: Need to download
Ref: Append at 13:49:58 on 92/08/14 GMT (by WZ00694 at OS2CUST)

James, I think we are very close.  Packaging and documentation, etc.
Maybe with a week or 10 days...

Paul King

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 01:06:33 on 92/08/15 GMT (by RKEES at ATLVM1) -
Subject: Downloading Fixes for OS/2
There is an alternative to getting to your SE. You can sign on to the
NSC BBS at 404 835 6600 and get the latest fixes for OS/2. This also has
areas that discuss different problem and solutions that other users have
found.
There are also other files and information on other IBM and NON IBM
products.

Robert Kees

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 01:54:01 on 92/08/15 GMT (by ROK2070 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Viewing only my own notes or responses
Ref: Append at 15:51:14 on 92/07/30 GMT (by DWPX177 at OS2CUST)

Not quite as simple as what you are asking for, but "it works for me"  --
  I select "FIND" and type in my userid (ROK2070) as the text to search for.

Ron Palmer, Rockwell International, Rocketdyne Division

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 15:58:56 on 92/08/18 GMT (by IL61500 at OS2CUST)
Subject: LACK OF RESPONSE

Hello...
I have repeatedly asked questions regarding training recommendations
for programming in OS/2 Database Mgr 1.3 in the OS/2 Databse Mgr section
of the OS/2 BBS. There has never been any response.

Could it be that everyone actively using Database Mgr learned it entirely on
their own?

Could it also be that IBM is reluctant to even make a recommendation of
which books / classes would be helpful to a novice SQL programmer?

Thank You,

LOU BREIT, Dean Witter Reynolds

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 21:29:42 on 92/08/18 GMT (by AAEE1AN at OS2CUST)
Subject: LACK OF RESPONSE
Ref: Append at 15:58:56 on 92/08/18 GMT (by IL61500 at OS2CUST)

Lou,

Maybe IBM really believes that the HELP is sufficient (chuckle ...) .

Mike Andrews, Mgr, Tech support, Okla. Dept. of Transportation [phone]

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 15:16:26 on 92/08/21 GMT (by NAAG8T6 at OS2CUST)
Subject: PCPRINT

I just installed this utility (that comes with ES 1.0) and gives a neat way
to print host files. Since OS2BBS is VM based (???), how about supporting
it as a print option?

Bruce Ferrero (Aetna)

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 12:31:56 on 92/08/22 GMT (by TRAUTMAN at PKEDVM8)
Subject: LACK OF RESPONSE
Ref:     Append at 15:58:56 on 92/08/18 GMT (by IL61500 at OS2CUST)

Lou,

     Its possible that the mix of IBM-ers that are repsonding in this
forum do not have the background that would provide an answer to
your question.

     I suggest that you have your SE check HONE for classes that
mention the database manager.  I know there are a number of classes
that get put out there from time to time.  If you are looking for
reading material, you might try: Client-Server Programming with OS/2
Extended Edition (2nd Ed.)  (not sure what the ISBN number is)
It is supposed to have lots of examples and be one of the better
(Best?) books.

Bill Trautman

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 19:20:16 on 92/08/24 GMT (by SC23461 at AUSVM1)
Subject: LACK OF RESPONSE
Ref:     Append at 15:58:56 on 92/08/18 GMT (by IL61500 at OS2CUST)
Ref:     Append at 21:29:42 on 92/08/18 GMT (by AAEE1AN at OS2CUST)

Sorry for the lack of response on your Database Manager education
question -- I'll suggest better coverage on these forums to our group.
Our group is busier than a one-armed paper-hanger, trying to keep up
with all of the activity since OS/2 2.0 has "taken off", and we just
haven't been able to cover EVERYTHING as well as we'd have liked to.
Covering these forums is a "voluntary" activity, so it has suffered.

Let me suggest that the best information is already available if you
have IBMLink access.  With an ILxxxxx ID, I assume you got on the BBS
via IBMLink, as a Tech Coordinator.  If so, just type EDUCATION at a
command prompt, then choose "keyword search".  For keywords, I used
"OS/2" and "database" together and got the following:

- - - (clipped from IBMLink screen) - - -
   10 Courses found for: OS/2 DATABASE

   1    P1060   OS/2 DDCS/2 IMPLEMENTATION
   2    P1057   OS/2 VERSION 2.0 AND DATABASE MANAGER CONCEPTS
   3    P1056   EXTENDED SERVICES FOR OS/2 DATABASE ADMINISTRATION
   4    U4120   DISTRIBUTED DATABASE WORKSHOP, OS/2 TO DB2
   5    P1054   OS/2 DATABASE PERFORMANCE WORKSHOP
   6    P1048   OS/2 EXTENDED SERVICES DATABASE CODING WORKSHOP
   7    P1047   OS/2 EXTENDED SERVICES DATABASE ADMINISTRATION WORKSHOP
   8    P1024   OS/2 DATABASE CODING WORKSHOP FOR DB2 AND SQL/DS
   9    P1015   OS/2 DATABASE ADMINISTRATION FOR DB2 AND SQL/DS
  10    DE013   DISCOVER/EDUCATION OS/2 DATABASE MANAGER INTRODUCTION AND
                      IMPLEMENTATION

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

We have a Database Workshop which is probably the best available
training for DBMgr... WE think.  It's listed as P1054 above.  If
you can give me your contact information, I'll pass it on to the
workshop people.  Send a note to me at one of the following (please
don't put it here!):

   Internet:    [e-mail]     (**preferred for non-IBM**)
   Fax:         [phone]
   VNET:        SC23461 at AUSVM1
   IBMMail:     USIB2R6X at IBMMAIL
   IBMLink:     DEV1122 at HONE82
   X400:        CC=US,ADMD=IBMX400,PRMD=IBMMAIL,S=WYGANT,G=WYGAN
   CompuServe:  76450,734 (or ">internet: [e-mail]")
   PRODIGY:     BXPN78B

Thanks...

      L. F. Wygant
      Technical Consultant
      OS/2 EE/ES/LS Application Developer Technical Support Group
      Dept. 617, IBM Austin

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 16:04:13 on 92/08/27 GMT (by SUN0012 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Would like support for transfer of text items to my local VM id.

I access IBMLink using a dedicated link to IIN from my mainframe.  In
regular IBMLink I am able to "print" items from TECHQA, ASKQ, ETR and
the like directly to my userid on my local PROFS system.  On the OS2BBS
I appear only to have the choice of downloading to my PC.  SInce my aim
usually is to ".gf" the items into a PROFS note, this requires me to do a
second file transfer (to upload to VM) and also presents a "garbage
collection" problem on the PC hard disk.

Is there any way to do such a transfer now?  Any chance of this as a future
enhancement to the OS2BBS?

Jim Snively, Sun Companmy, Inc

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 16:46:25 on 92/08/27 GMT (by VA06582 at OS2CUST)
Subject: New File items available on this BBS

Why is it that this board doesn't always have the "latest" when it comes
to OS/2???

I know this sounds like a complaint and it is.

It's getting to the point that I don't look here first; I can check other
boards and find new items almost always.  Eventually, things appear on this
BBS.  I know what you're thinking: this guy's finding little shareware
programs and he expects us to carry anything anybody writes.  Well, this
isn't the case!  For example, recently I searched the Magnum BBS here
in California and found the latest IBMNULL driver and the Spell check
file for EPM.  Clearly these type of files are OS/2 related and I would
expect to find them on the IBM OS/2 BBS first.

Am I out-of-line here by expecting this much, or is there a rational
explanation for this situation?

Your comments please.

Bill Pier @ Hughes Aircraft, Fullerton, CA

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 17:09:06 on 92/08/27 GMT (by KENIN at MARTLINK)
Subject: Date for additions to BBS

I would like the screen that lists the topics to have the last update date.  I
now have to go into each and pick the "view new" option.  I could just look at
the ones that have changed.  The software tools, and fixes have this feature.

Ken Wohlferd

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 17:11:18 on 92/08/27 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP)
Subject: New File items available on this BBS
Ref:     Append at 16:46:25 on 92/08/27 GMT (by VA06582 at OS2CUST)

Bill,
Can you post us the BBS #,
I'd like to get the EPM stuff.
Thanks,

Geza Szivos
NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583
NHO-32 801-7th Ave Calgary, Alberta, CANADA  T2P 2N6

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 17:19:32 on 92/08/27 GMT (by RLGINES at CHGVMIC1)
Subject: New File items available on this BBS
Ref:     Append at 16:46:25 on 92/08/27 GMT (by VA06582 at OS2CUST)

Bill you are not out of line at all.  In fact I want to thank you for posting
the append.  I have sat back and watched many of these types of comments come
from other IBM customers such as yourself.  I almost feel like I need to
apologize for the situation.

Please continue making constructive comments as you have.  That will continue
to bring the issues to those that are running this board.  While you work on
the outside, many of us are working on the inside.  I do not have direct
influence on the operation of this board, however like most other IBMers I
try to assist and help in indirect ways as much as possible.  I am quietly
trying to work on a couple of projects that might assist you in the files
area down the road sometime.  Unfortunately, it does not help you much
at this time.

There are in fact several BBSes around the country that are able to receive
current OS/2 files automatically on a regular basis.  It looks like you
have found one of them.  While I would like to see you continue using an
IBM facility, you need to utilize the resources at your disposal as effectively
as possible.

Ronald L. Gines

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 21:59:43 on 92/08/27 GMT (by THRUMD at SYDVM1)
Subject: New File items available on this BBS
Ref:     Append at 16:46:25 on 92/08/27 GMT (by VA06582 at OS2CUST)

Don't know about the IBMNULL, but if the "spell check" file is the
dictionary, then it certainly was not posted there officially by
IBM - the dictionary is not part of OS/2, or any OS/2 fix.
The dictionary that EPM uses is shipped as part of a number of IBM
products, but unfortunately OS/2 is not one of them.  If the
dictionary is indeed out there on a BBS, it is not a legal copy.

Otherwise, as far as I am aware, this BBS should get official fixes
as soon as any other source.  There may be other fixes out there that
have been provided to individual customers to fix a specific problem,
but not distributed widely because they had not been through the
required level of integration/system testing.  It may be that some
of these fixes have found their way onto public BBS's.  This is not an
indication that this BBS is behind, simply that the fix was never
intended for widespread public distribution.

Dave

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 01:53:52 on 92/08/28 GMT (by ROK2070 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Would like support for transfer of text items to my local VM id.
Ref: Append at 16:04:13 on 92/08/27 GMT (by SUN0012 at OS2CUST)

Check the rest of this Forum and you will find several people have been
asking/begging/pleading for this ability ever since the BBS went into
operation.
Another often-asked-for feature is be the ability to "SENDFILE" an item from
the file section of this BBS to either an IBMMAIL id or to a userid at our
local site, bypassing the (SLOW) download to the PC.
These are things that have been available to IBMLINK users for years.

IBM:  Here's another option that you might consider  --  create an option or
command that we could use to send a file through Internet.  I realize you
probably could not allow access FROM Internet (using the GET command), but
maybe you could give us a command to issue while logged on to this BBS to
initiate sending a file to another Internet address.

Almost anything would be faster than the download to the PC (which is almost
always followed by an immediate upload to the local mainframe).

Ron Palmer, Rockwell International, Rocketdyne Division

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 01:54:08 on 92/08/28 GMT (by NBCZ9K0 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Tracking new items

Is the tracking feature for this BBS in operation?  At one point in
time when I selected new items only those items which were in fact new
were displayed....for the last several weeks now I'm back in the mode
where everything is NEW.....is it just me or ???

Thanks

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 01:59:16 on 92/08/28 GMT (by NBCZ9K0 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Tracking......

Ok cut it out....as soon as I entered that APPEND and went back to
the menu tracking was on; but I had just checked TCP-IP and it
showed all items as NEW.  I know that I'm current because I used
the OS2BBS HLLAPI program to do my reading....nice program;
maybe IBM should consider picking it up if possible.

Thanks, but this is still a bit of a mystery to me.

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 11:38:32 on 92/08/28 GMT (by WZ00533 at OS2CUST)
Subject: PMTREE

I just downloaded PMTREE from the tools section.
At first blush it appears it could be a handy program, both as a standalone
tool and if source was available, a good educational tool as well.
Having said that.... I'm beginning to have real problems with people and
So, I would like to know how I can obtain the source to PMTREE.
Thanks,
other areas I would assume:

IBM is dropping PS/2 because

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 14:04:32 on 92/08/28 GMT (by SAMI3QU at OS2CUST)
Subject: New Email option request

I hope this request hasn't already been made (I looked through the forum but
didn't find a similar request).

When responding to an append via Email, how about an option to Email the
author of the current append in addition to "Reply" and "New Item"?  Depending
on how a user accesses this BBS, response can be pretty slow.  It can be
annoying having to read a bunch of short appends that simply say "Thanks",
"Are you the guy that used to work at...", etc.  These types of messages
belong in Email, but there is currently no way to directly send Email while
reading an append.

Mark Thompson - Coal Services Corp.  St. Louis, MO

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 16:47:08 on 92/08/28 GMT (by AAEE1AN at OS2CUST)
Subject: Tracking new items
Ref: Append at 01:54:08 on 92/08/28 GMT (by NBCZ9K0 at OS2CUST)

Nope! It's not just you; it's at least the two of us. I wouldn't be surprised
if there were many more seeing the same thing - old, already-viewed items
shown as shiny new items.

I know I looked at a bunch of stuff last Friday ( a week ago) that were shown
as new Monday morning.

Reminds me of a car I used to own - worked fine every time I had a mechanic
look at it, but only then. Definitely in the "needs work" category.

Mike Andrews, Mgr, Tech support, Okla. Dept. of Transportation [phone]

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 17:31:04 on 92/08/28 GMT (by PNWB016 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Toolkit forum - Anybody home?

Just wanted to mention that there are a few questions outstanding on the
Toolkit forum. I'm sure Andrew has to do with the lack of response, so
I'm not upset in the least...

Wayne "I heard Boca made it through with relatively little damage" Holmes
U S WEST Communications

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 18:56:05 on 92/08/28 GMT (by TXCM042 at OS2CUST)
Subject: CMS file not found

I've tried multiple times in the a emulator area with many different files in t
he software area of the os/2 bbs (the area before the forum).

I suppose what I'm doing is downloading the showpc file and then running it?

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 19:27:10 on 92/08/28 GMT (by NAPK6PR at OS2CUST)
Subject: PMHPO

After viewing the FTN concerning the OS2 BBS, a co-worker and I were very
excited about the PMHPO application.  We thought that we heard that the package
would be made available by the end of the week, and are eagerly awaiting its
arrival.  Could anyone possibly update when PMHPO will be made available?

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 19:38:38 on 92/08/28 GMT (by NIKOROPO at SFOVMIC1)
Subject: PMHPO
Ref:     Append at 19:27:10 on 92/08/28 GMT (by NAPK6PR at OS2CUST)

What I heard from Dennis Johnson yesterday is that PMHPO would be placed
on the BBS within the next 2 weeks for downloading.  That is what he said
in the FTN yesterday.

     Neil Koropoff
     NWTA - Personal Systems Solutions

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 19:54:22 on 92/08/28 GMT (by SLAUSON at WATSON)
Subject: PMHPO
Ref:     Append at 19:27:10 on 92/08/28 GMT (by NAPK6PR at OS2CUST)

The PMHPO diskettes are being built and shipped now.  It should appear
in on the BBS for download next week.  At least that's what I was told
today by someone in the Atlanta project office.

David Slauson
IBM T.J. Watson Research Center, Yorktown Heights, NY

From:  [e-mail]

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 20:23:16 on 92/08/28 GMT (by DENNIS at ATLVM1)
Subject: PMHPO
Ref:     Append at 19:27:10 on 92/08/28 GMT (by NAPK6PR at OS2CUST)

We shipped PMHPO out to the WZxxxxx id holders on Thursday 8/27 and
will post it on the BBS for download by others on 9/2.

We thank you for your patience, please let us know how you like it.

Dennis Johnson     Atlanta, GA.

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 22:43:39 on 92/08/28 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST)
Subject: PMHPO
Ref: Append at 20:23:16 on 92/08/28 GMT (by DENNIS at ATLVM1)

Dennis - if you can ship the code then it must be 'gold'.  Why delay the
availability on this bbs until 9/2 and force the rest of us to wait?

Lionel Dyck - Rockwell International, Information Systems Center

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 22:55:55 on 92/08/28 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)
Subject: New File items available on this BBS
Ref: Append at 16:46:25 on 92/08/27 GMT (by VA06582 at OS2CUST)

I'm not 100% sure of what exactly the IBMNULL driver you found is, but there is
not a new IBMNULL driver.  After checking around I found that the drivers
will be made available for download for those people who purchase PS/2's
preloaded with OS/2 and do not have that driver on diskette.  Apparently these
drivers found there way to the outside world without going through the normal
distribution channels.  I know that the IBMNULL driver made it's way to
Compuserv but it was not placed there by Irv Spalten who normally puts the
official IBM items there and acts as the distribution point to the rest of us.
Irv informs me that he is pursuing these and should have them available to us
soon, but the net result is that he is not aware of anything "new" about it.

Regarding the EPM file, no spell check support has been distributed for OS/2.
Whatever file you got from the other BBS is of questionable origin or legality.
There is a file (LEXAM.DLL) that is shipped with other products, but we
cannot make that file available separately.  There are also IBM Internal
versions but we are not allowed to distribute these either. There happens to be
some new code coming out very soon which is supposed to support spell checking
and we are already on the distribution list to receive it (refer to the "ETPM
availability?" discussion in E-EDITOR CFORUM).  As soon as it arrives it will
be made available to you.

The net of this is that we do provide the latest OFFICIALLY RELEASED versions
of the code, fixes, and so on.  As soon as we get it, we make it available
here.  "Unofficial" files are still going to find their way onto the BBS's of
the world.  Irv, myself and others try very hard to keep an eye on this and
stay "in sync", but it is simply impossible to know about every file that any
IBMer or customer may have put on some BBS somewhere.  If you do find something
out there that you think should be here, please let us know.  We'll certainly
try to track it down, make it available, AND try to make sure that it goes
through the normal process the next time so that everyone will benefit from it.

Brent Allen - IBM OS/2 Base Services Support

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 23:15:14 on 92/08/28 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)
Subject: Tracking new items
Ref: Append at 16:47:08 on 92/08/28 GMT (by AAEE1AN at OS2CUST)

The developers inform me that they're looking into a fix for this problem.
I don't know the exact specifics, but it may be a problem with the saving
of the pointers when you logoff or get disconnected.  I'll let you know when
I hear back from them.

Brent Allen - IBM OS/2 Base Services Support

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 23:15:21 on 92/08/28 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)
Subject: Date for additions to BBS
Ref: Append at 17:09:06 on 92/08/27 GMT (by KENIN at MARTLINK)

Good idea.  Right now the system code doesn't support the automatic updating
of a menu.  The dates on the software library menus are updated because I
manually update the file everytime a new tool or fix is loaded (not exactly
a friendly process).  I can take a look and see if there's a way to "trick"
the system into doing this.

Brent Allen - IBM OS/2 Base Services Support

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 23:22:47 on 92/08/28 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)
Subject: CMS file not found
Ref: Append at 18:56:05 on 92/08/28 GMT (by TXCM042 at OS2CUST)

I'm not quite sure if I understand the exact problem here, but to answer your
question:  Yes, you can download the SHOWTOPC batch file then run it so that it
will download all of the files you have selected.  As a helpful tip if you're
using Comm Manager on OS/2 2.0, you can create a two line batch file with the
commands:

RECEIVE SHOWTOPC.CMD SHOWTOPC BAT A (ASCII CRLF
SHOWTOPC

You can then create an icon on your desktop so that when the host is ready to
begin the download, all you have to do is double-click on the icon to run the
entire download sequence.

Regarding the "CMS file not found" subject, are you getting this message when
you attempt to download SHOWTOPC or at other times?

Brent Allen - IBM OS/2 Base Services Support

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 18:17:54 on 92/08/29 GMT (by WZ00715 at OS2CUST)
Subject: screens for BBS

The cursor is very hard to see in the red  bar where selection  "s" takes place
.  Is there a color setup facility? This thing is VERY colorful, too
much so, for my taste.

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 15:26:48 on 92/08/31 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)
Subject: screens for BBS
Ref: Append at 18:17:54 on 92/08/29 GMT (by WZ00715 at OS2CUST)

Select #5 - Set Display Options from the main BBS menu.  You can change most of
the colors there.  The "red" area you currently see is defined by the field
labeled "Areas where you make a selection".  The first R defines it as red and
the second R defines reverse video.

Brent Allen - IBM OS/2 Base Services Support

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 16:49:31 on 92/08/31 GMT (by XXMINC08 at TORVMCOP)
Subject: Would like support for transfer of text items to my local VM id.
Ref:     Append at 16:04:13 on 92/08/27 GMT (by SUN0012 at OS2CUST)

Bill Nelson
Manulife Financial

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 17:45:31 on 92/08/31 GMT (by DENNIS at ATLVM1)
Subject: Would like support for transfer of text items to my local VM id.
Ref:     Append at 16:04:13 on 92/08/27 GMT (by SUN0012 at OS2CUST)

In creating the OS2BBS, we recognized the need to price this offering so
that it would be self-sustaining and competitive. In order to do so, we
intentionally removed most of the IBMLink functions from this offering.

What you're asking for is not at all difficult technically. I will put
it in my list of requirements for future consideration.

Please keep telling us about your requirements, we really are vitally
interested.

Dennis Johnson     Atlanta, GA.

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 17:49:43 on 92/09/01 GMT (by Z8057A at OS2CUST)
Subject: I'm in here now I can't get out

This is the second time I have logged into the bbs and can't get out. I am acce
ssing it through IBMLink. From the main menu I select F3 and the message " Pres
s F3 to exit or Enter to resume session" appears. No matter what I select I am
taken back to the OS2BBS main screen. Nothing else is affected. I can go back i
n and do anything I want, even download files. I am accessing IBMLink through C
omm Manager and OS2 2.0. I am sure that I am hitting F3- I have checked my keyb
oard mappings. The last time I stayed out for 2 days and when I signed on to IB
MLink I came up in the BBS session. I stayed out for the weekend and Everything
 came up normal. I went in to the BBS before I remembered to write down the 800
 number for support. Help me! I'm logged in but I can't get out.

Mike Gregorio (The Coca-Cola Company)

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 18:33:31 on 92/09/01 GMT (by WZ00001 at LINK21)
Subject: I'm in here now I can't get out
Ref: Append at 17:49:43 on 92/09/01 GMT (by Z8057A at OS2CUST)

Mike, try putting a 'zero' in the Level field  on the second line.
This a fastpath to exit.

Paul King

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 18:51:17 on 92/09/01 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE86)
Subject: I'm in here now I can't get out
Ref: Append at 17:49:43 on 92/09/01 GMT (by Z8057A at OS2CUST)

Mike,
I find it easier when leaving the BBS to go to the LEVEL number block and
changing it to a 0, give that a try.

Jack Hiatt    MARC-Life   Atlanta  Ga.

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 20:16:46 on 92/09/01 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST)
Subject: OS2BBS MSG Problems?

I posted several messages in the forums that have not appeared. Is there
a system problem? The time between my posting and returning to check on
responses was about 4-5 hours (wishful thinking I know!).

Dan Lundy          Time Customer Service, Inc.                      Tampa, Fl

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 01:20:52 on 92/09/02 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)
Subject: PMHPO Ver 1.1 available for download

PMHPO Version 1.1 is now available for download from the OS/2 BBS.  You can
find it in the OS/2 Tools section of the Software Library.

Brent Allen - IBM LAN Systems Integration Services, Southlake TX

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 01:20:59 on 92/09/02 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)
Subject: OS2BBS MSG Problems?
Ref: Append at 20:16:46 on 92/09/01 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST)

There were some problems on the weekend of 8/22-8/23 but that shouldn't have
caused anything to be lost, just queued up.  Can you give me some idea of when
you posted these items and to which forums?  I can pass the info along to the
guy that maintains the Tools machine and maybe he can track it down.

Brent Allen - IBM LAN Systems Integration Services

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 02:13:22 on 92/09/02 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE81)
Subject: PMHPO Ver 1.1 available for download
Ref: Append at 01:20:52 on 92/09/02 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)

Brent,
Thank you.

Jack Hiatt  Marc Life  Atlanta Ga.

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 17:53:23 on 92/09/02 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST)
Subject: OS2BBS MSG Problems?
Ref: Append at 01:20:59 on 92/09/02 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)

The PM programming forum , the toolkit forum, Workframe forum,
and WPS forum.

The morning (EST 9-11am) of Tuesday the first.

The irritating things is that some of the posts were two-three pages
long. <Sigh>. I was also b* and moaning about some things. When I returned,
and found them missing, I felt a little paranoid.

(As in: Okay Dan, we've heard enough whining from you *poof*)<G>

Thanks for checking it out!

Dan Lundy          Time Customer Service, Inc.                      Tampa, Fl

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 18:42:00 on 92/09/02 GMT (by IL53645 at OS2CUST)
Subject: INPCS-HPO Download

I am still using INPCS-HPO for IBMLINK and OS2BBS access.  I notice when I try
to either print or download, I get a comm err 10 (no response from host).  I am
 using the normal way I use to transfer (Ctl Esc and select Receive) from IBMLI
NK.  Should this work? or not?  Thanks, This board is an excellent idea and sav
es my SE from a lot of dumb questions. (and me embarassment).

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 22:45:40 on 92/09/02 GMT (by IL78568 at OS2CUST)
Subject: NEW OS2 TOOLS

I noticed that the DBM Remote Password Update utility has the TXT2PS.ZIP
file in its description.  I haven't downloaded it, so the file sent may be
the right one.

Secondly, I was under the impression that the FORBROWS (sic) package would
be available at the same time as the PMHPO package.

Do you have any information on the FORBROWS availability?

Thanks!

Brooks McNeely - Martin Marietta Energy Systems, Inc.

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 02:12:14 on 92/09/03 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST)
Subject: PMHPO vs. INPCS-HPO

Well, I just tried out PMHPO and have the following comments about it:

1.  It will never replace INPCS-HPO.  INPCS-HPO is faster, cleaner and
    I can cut/paste using the DOS Window.  It also supports multiple
    connections (sessions) and I have documentation for it.

2.  PM-HPO locked up several times on me for no reason requiring that
    I terminate the session (CLOSE).

3.  PM-HPO has no documentation.  Only supports one session.  Has no
    prompted automation (userid/password/application) as INPCS-HPO
    does.

In general I do not see the reason for the effort to develop PM-HPO when
INPCS-HPO is available, documented, supported, and with minimal effort
can have its' keys re-mapped so that the jump sequences are compatible
with OS/2.  While I really want IBM to be successful and have tried over
the years to encourage it where I can - I really don't understand this
reinvention/replication of effort that I see for things that don't really
need to be done when there are other areas that need to be addressed.

Note that I also tried using PM-HPO at the office and it failed every time
when I attempted to connect using my RolmPhone 240D and modem pool.  Nothing
worked.  BUT INPCS-HPO did and does work with the RolmPhone and pool.

Why not just release INPCS-HPO 1.1.1 to the users of this bbs and get onto
other issues....?

Lionel Dyck - Rockwell International, Information Systems Center

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 06:09:30 on 92/09/03 GMT (by WZ00734 at OS2CUST)
Subject: IBM Product Announcements

Why not make the forum for viewing and retrieving IBM Product
Announcements free to customers of the OS2BBS? Why make customers pay
for reading IBM's advertizing? Of course, you'd have to have a forum
for looking up IBM Product Announcements for products of relevance to
OS/2/2 , such as PS/2s, DVI adapters,
etc.
Why just today I was hoping to read something about Multimedia PM....

Joe Hager

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 14:26:49 on 92/09/03 GMT (by IL04688 at OS2CUST)
Subject: PMHPO ver 1.1

In last weeks FTN on the OS2BBS (#92191) I thought I heard that we would be
able to download messages to read offline without the arduous process of
searching through them using F10 and tagging individually all the ones of
interest.  If this is true, please explain how it is done.  The readme file
for PMHPO does not cover this procedure.

I would also like to know how to remap the keyboard so that the PS/2 enter-key
functions as enter and the right-ctrl key functions as newline.  This has
been straight-forward in the past and we have done it for years (since 3270
terminals were replaced by the PS/2 and 3270 emulation in the mid-80's).

Lastly, in setup for INPCS-HPO it was able to store the "lnk1" and "userid"
parameters so that all I needed to remember and type in was my password.
Those items do not appear in the setup panel for PMHPO and I wondered how
you save them.

Thanks.

Leo Tornow

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 14:54:19 on 92/09/03 GMT (by IL04688 at OS2CUST)
Subject: PMHPO ver 1.1

Since I do hardware/software evaluations I am constantly working with
short-term loaner PC's, and doing frequent format and installs on the
associated hardfiles.  In last weeks FTN on PMHPO the presenter said
that he could not think of a reason why you would ever want to re-download
messages that you had previously received.  I can.  In a future release
I would hope that you would consider including a mechanism for adjusting
the download message pointer.  (I am hoping that when we do message
downloads from day to day we will just pick up what's new, and ideally
it should be in compressed form since my error correcting 9600 bps modem
will not work with IBMLink and I am forced to use an older 2400 modem.)

Second, in the FTN the presenter mentioned automatically erasing appends
when you send them up to the BBS.  Again, he could not think of a reason
why you might want to keep them.  When I compose a solution to a problem
that I want to share on the BBS, I also want to share it within our
organization and with the local OS/2 users group.  But I don't want to
re-key it and I would like to zip it into an archive.  I wish IBM would
consider a rule that whenever a developer says he cannot think of a
reason anyone would ever want to do or not do something, that they would
have him implement it as a toggle.

Leo Tornow

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 14:57:06 on 92/09/03 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST)
Subject: MSG Time Test

This MSG created at 10:55 EST on 9/3/92.

This is a test.

Dan Lundy          Time Customer Service, Inc.                      Tampa, Fl

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 15:47:01 on 92/09/03 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)
Subject: OS2BBS MSG Problems?
Ref: Append at 17:53:23 on 92/09/02 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST)

Thanks for the info.  I'll pass it along to our conferencing guy.  He did a
preliminary check and didn't see anything that might cause appends to be
missing, but hopefully this will help him track things down.

Brent Allen - IBM LAN Systems Integration Services   Southlake, TX

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 16:00:30 on 92/09/03 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)
Subject: INPCS-HPO Download
Ref: Append at 18:42:00 on 92/09/02 GMT (by IL53645 at OS2CUST)

INPCS-HPO should definitely work.  When you try to download, are you at the
screen that says to Receive the SHOWTOPC BAT file?  If you're not at the right
screen it won't download.  It sounds like you're at the right place but I just
needed to check.

One thing to try is to change the default timeout value of the Receive.  If by
chance you have a bad connection or something, the download might be slowed
down due to retransmissions and the command times-out.  You can change this by
adding the option TIME(x) where x is the number of seconds to wait.  The
default is 120.

Ex:  RECEIVE SHOWTOPC.BAT SHOWTOPC BAT A (ASCII CRLF TIME(240)

If this allows the download to work, you'll need to modify the SHOWTOPC.BAT
file to add the TIME parameter to each Receive command, or you'll need to
manually issue the Receive commands yourself.  Just type the contents of
SHOWTOPC to see what the actual Receive commands would be.

Brent Allen - IBM LAN Systems Integration Services   Southlake, TX

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 16:18:34 on 92/09/03 GMT (by JROMANO at AUSVM1)
Subject: LACK OF RESPONSE
Ref:     Append at 15:58:56 on 92/08/18 GMT (by IL61500 at OS2CUST)

Lou,

I am the program manager for the OS/2 Database Manager Performance
Workshop.  I also have contacts in education related to other
database education.  If you would like to talk about these
offerings, please call me at [phone].  I will be happy to
assist you with information about DB education sources.

Regards,

John Romano
Workshop Program Manager
Austin, Texas

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 17:18:29 on 92/09/03 GMT (by SLAUSON at WATSON)
Subject: PMHPO ver 1.1
Ref:     Append at 14:54:19 on 92/09/03 GMT (by IL04688 at OS2CUST)

Leo, the presenter was in error when he said that FORBROWS automatically
erased appends.  It does not (and never has).  It moves them to an
"achival" subdirectory, in case they are needed later.  I would
personally dislike any program that automatically erased data that I had
laboriously typed in.

From what I remember of the FTN, that was the only major factual error
re. FORBROWS.

David Slauson
FORBROWS Developer
IBM T.J. Watson Research Center, Yorktown Heights, NY

From:  [e-mail]

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 18:03:04 on 92/09/03 GMT (by SLAUSON at WATSON)
Subject: PMHPO ver 1.1
Ref:     Append at 14:26:49 on 92/09/03 GMT (by IL04688 at OS2CUST)

The offline forum tool is called FORBROWS.  It is a separate program
from PMHPO.  We hope to release it soon, but have held off because
most users will need PMHPO as a pre-req for OS2BBS host communications,
but the HLLAPI interface within PMHPO occasionally experiences problems
on some machines.  The HLLAPI problems probably won't affect anyone who
uses PMHPO stand-alone, but it can cause problems when FORBROWS tries
to interact with PMHPO.  We've been reluctant to release FORBROWS until
the HLLAPI problems were ironed out.

David Slauson
IBM T.J. Watson Research Center, Yorktown Heights, NY

From:  [e-mail]

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 18:03:05 on 92/09/03 GMT (by SLAUSON at WATSON)
Subject: PMHPO vs. INPCS-HPO
Ref:     Append at 02:12:14 on 92/09/03 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST)

Perhaps the main reason for PMHPO development was that It would have
been difficult, perhaps impossible, for an off-line PM-based tool
like FORBROWS to reliably drive host OS2BBS sessions via the DOS-based
INPCS-HPO.  I've been told that the interfaces between INPCS-HPO and PM
are non-existent.

You also need to keep in mind that you are seeing the *first* public
release of PMHPO.  There is no reason to think that it will remain
forever static.

David Slauson
IBM T.J. Watson Research Center, Yorktown Heights, NY

From:  [e-mail]

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 21:40:10 on 92/09/03 GMT (by WZ00755 at OS2CUST)
Subject: PMHPO vs. INPCS-HPO
Ref: Append at 02:12:14 on 92/09/03 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST)

Lionel,

>2.  PM-HPO locked up several times on me for no reason requiring that
>    I terminate the session (CLOSE).

I had this same problem converting from INPCS to PMHPO.  I traced the problem
to XON/XOFF flow control in my UDS modem.  It seems that PMHPO inadvertently
enabled XON/XOFF flow control via the modem commands stored in HPODIAL.DAT.

I edited HPODIAL.DAT to contain the appropriate modem setup strings for my
modem and then the mysterious lockups went away.  I also tried setting the
modem speed to 19.2 Kbps, but that didn't work. :)

I would suggest two enhancements to the Setup dialog: Allow speeds higher than
9600 bps and allow more than the four predefined and undocumented modem
definitions stored in HPODIAL.DAT.  By undocumented I mean that it took me
awhile to determine the HPODIAL is where the user defines the "User Defined"
modem.

Larry W. Flynt - The Rosewood Corporation

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 21:45:58 on 92/09/03 GMT (by MDCL055 at OS2CUST)
Subject: PMHPO ver 1.1
Ref: Append at 18:03:04 on 92/09/03 GMT (by SLAUSON at WATSON)

Is there a version of FORBROWS that works with Communication Manager without
the problems you describe with PMHPO? If so, it sure would help those of us
who can access the OS2BBS via IIN/IBMLink leased lines. Would I be able to have
my SE obtain it before you release the PMHPO fixed version of FORBROWS?

Steve Schiffman

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 23:33:48 on 92/09/03 GMT (by KENIN at MARTLINK)
Subject: Lost Item

I added an item to the CM forum today, and now it is missing.  Am I losing my
mind, or just my appends?

Ken Wohlferd - Fortis

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 03:39:59 on 92/09/04 GMT (by PNWB016 at OS2CUST)
Subject: PMHPO - Enter != Enter

Well... up until today I haven't been able to get to the OS2BBS except by
our corporate gateway into IBMLink. I have installed the version of PMHPO
available on this board and have one question (I'm sure I will have more
later):

  Why can't the "Enter" key mean "Enter" instead of the "Ctrl" key????
  As far as I'm concerned using "Ctrl" as "Enter" is a "debt to history"
  of 3270 terminals... aone that should be ABANDONED.

At least PLEASE offerme the ability to customize the keys! My CommMan
config as "Enter" meaning "Enter" and I would really like to be able
to do this with PMHPO.

Am I the only person this bothers?

Wayne "Wanting to make sure I'm not blowing smoke... being careful NEVER
  to inhale" Holmes

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 13:07:48 on 92/09/04 GMT (by AAEE1AN at OS2CUST)
Subject: PMHPO ver 1.1
Ref: Append at 14:54:19 on 92/09/03 GMT (by IL04688 at OS2CUST)

 A  M  E  N  !!!!!

In my 27+ years of doing this job, it has been become apparent, and perhaps
trivially apparent, that developers live in their own, isolated ivory towers,
which are disjoint fron the real world.

How about formalizing the suggestion as a policy, IBM:
If a developer can see no reason for anyone wanting to do a given action,
then that option must be left available to the user.

It sure would have saved me months of trouble.

(now if I can just save this to distribute to my local IBMers and
application developers ...)

Mike Andrews, Mgr, Tech support, Okla. Dept. of Transportation [phone]

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 13:32:21 on 92/09/04 GMT (by SAMI3QU at OS2CUST)
Subject: PMHPO - Enter != Enter
Ref: Append at 03:39:59 on 92/09/04 GMT (by PNWB016 at OS2CUST)

Wayne,

I whole-heartedly agree.  I've been using INPCS-HPO for a long time and would
like to see PMHPO catch up with it.  In particular:

1) Keyboard remap, color definition, etc.
2) Support for multiple sessions.
3) Configurable 3270 emulation (mod 3, 4, 5).
4) Option to display modem dialog.
5) Predefine the values of the various fields on the IN logon screen.

An improvement that could/should be implemented is the ability to define
more than one USER DEFINED modem-type in the HPODIAL.DAT file.  I support
INPCS-HPO at our company and I would love to be able to maintain a single
HPODIAL.USR file that contains profiles for the various modems we use.  As it
stands now, I have numerous files (one for each modem-type).

Mark Thompson - Coal Services Corp.  St. Louis, MO

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 14:31:17 on 92/09/04 GMT (by SLAUSON at WATSON)
Subject: PMHPO ver 1.1
Ref:     Append at 13:07:48 on 92/09/04 GMT (by AAEE1AN at OS2CUST)

Again, speaking from my ivory tower ;-), let me re-iterate that
presenter was *not* the developer, and while he did a generally laudable
job of overviewing FORBROWS, the part where he said that we could not
imagine why user's might want to do this-or-that was *incorrect*.

FORBROWS does not *erase* appends after posting them.  Also, FORBROWS's
message pointing mechanism is not kept on the host, but on the PC, and
can be reset by the user if necessary.

David Slauson
FORBROWS Developer
IBM T.J. Watson Research Center, Yorktown Heights, NY

From:  [e-mail]

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 14:46:27 on 92/09/04 GMT (by SLAUSON at WATSON)
Subject: PMHPO ver 1.1
Ref:     Append at 21:45:58 on 92/09/03 GMT (by MDCL055 at OS2CUST)

There is one version of FORBROWS, and it can be configured to work
with either CommMgr or PMHPO; it simply has to load different HLLAPI
DLLs, depending on which 3270 emulator it is working with.  It sends
exactly the same calls to PMHPO that it does to CommMgr.

CommMgr does not seem to experience the same HLLAPI problems that PMHPO
does, when driven by FORBROWS.  I'll discuss your request with the
project managers...

David Slauson
IBM T.J. Watson Research Center, Yorktown Heights, NY

From:  [e-mail]

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 14:54:34 on 92/09/04 GMT (by Z8057A at OS2CUST)
Subject: I'm in here now I can't get out
Ref: Append at 18:51:17 on 92/09/01 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE86)

That did it thanks, for the help.

Mike Gregorio (The Coca-Cola Company)

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 14:55:47 on 92/09/04 GMT (by Z8057A at OS2CUST)
Subject: I'm in here now I can't get out
Ref: Append at 18:33:31 on 92/09/01 GMT (by WZ00001 at LINK21)

Thanks for the help, that did it nicely.

Mike Gregorio (The Coca-Cola Company)

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 15:15:42 on 92/09/04 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)
Subject: PMHPO vs. INPCS-HPO
Ref: Append at 21:40:10 on 92/09/03 GMT (by WZ00755 at OS2CUST)

We'd like to add > 9600 support, but the current gateways to which PMHPO &
INPCS-HPO dial into do not support higher than 9600.  So far I have not heard
of any plans by the Information Network to upgrade these connections.

Point noted about documentation or changing modem setup strings.  (I have to do
this myself on my machine at home)

Brent Allen - IBM LAN Systems Integration Services   Southlake, TX

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 15:45:00 on 92/09/04 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)
Subject: NEW OS2 TOOLS
Ref: Append at 22:45:40 on 92/09/02 GMT (by IL78568 at OS2CUST)

Ooops.  Typo in the file that is displayed but i would have downloaded the
correct file if you selected it.  You should find that the DBMRPW.ZIP
file is now properly listed.  Thanks.

Brent Allen - IBM LAN Systems Integration Services   Southlake, TX

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 15:47:24 on 92/09/04 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)
Subject: Lost Item
Ref: Append at 23:33:48 on 92/09/03 GMT (by KENIN at MARTLINK)

Ken,
There is an append from you with the subject of "GDDM-OS/2-Link DW/370".
Is that the one that was missing or did you submit another one that hasn't
shown up?

Brent Allen - IBM LAN Systems Integration Services   Southlake, TX

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 16:37:13 on 92/09/04 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST)
Subject: OS2BBS MSG Problems?
Ref: Append at 15:47:01 on 92/09/03 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)

Brent,

  After two fustrating days of not seeing any of my messages posted
I called IBMLINK to vent steam.

Special thanks to Ryan for checking the bases for me. I can now see
all my posts and others. I suppose it was MY pointers that were not
being updated instead of the msg files.

I'll yell if it happens again.

Thanks to all. (I was really! getting paranoid!<g>)

Dan Lundy          Time Customer Service, Inc.                      Tampa, Fl

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 18:09:41 on 92/09/04 GMT (by KENIN at MARTLINK)
Subject: Lost Item
Ref: Append at 15:47:24 on 92/09/04 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)

That's the one.  I put it in yesterday AM, and couldn't find it later that day.
I see it is there today.  Is there some delay, or were there problems
yesterday?

Ken Wohlferd - Fortis

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 18:13:52 on 92/09/04 GMT (by AAEE1AN at OS2CUST)
Subject: PMHPO ver 1.1
Ref: Append at 14:31:17 on 92/09/04 GMT (by SLAUSON at WATSON)

Hello, David.

Perhaps there are are developers who live in the real world; you seem to be
a member of that class.  Thanks for the info - and for the response.

I am certain that much of the real worth of this entire BBS lies in the
ability to have **JUST** this sort of interchange with the people who get
things done.

Greatly appreciated!

Mike Andrews, Mgr, Tech support, Okla. Dept. of Transportation [phone]

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 18:56:40 on 92/09/04 GMT (by SLAUSON at WATSON)
Subject: PMHPO ver 1.1
Ref:     Append at 18:13:52 on 92/09/04 GMT (by AAEE1AN at OS2CUST)

Mike, I share your hopes re. the affect of the OS2BBS.  A number of us
are genuinely hoping that the existence of conferencing between IBMers
and our customers will result in better products and service.  The
existence of such conferences should, over time, give IBM developers
more direct contact with real-world customer problems.

David Slauson
IBM T.J. Watson Research Center, Yorktown Heights, NY

From:  [e-mail]

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 20:56:04 on 92/09/04 GMT (by FOLGER at WATSON)
Subject: OS2BBS MSG Problems?
Ref:     Append at 16:37:13 on 92/09/04 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST)

Well, maybe not all.  After you complained I did some detailed looking and
discovered one of your appends (and five from other folks) which have not
properly posted.  Each has a common characteristic ... a set of five (or
more) dashes beginning in column 1.  e.g.:

    |
    |-----
    |
    |<---The left edge of a piece of virtual paper.

In several cases folks were reposting appends from one forum to another.  In
these cases the first line of the reposted appends contains the five dashes.
These five dashes act as a separator in the conferencing software and
posting these appends intact would have confused certain conference
operations.  It is exactly this sort of behavior that led to the rejection
of these appends to begin with.  In one case (yours), the append simply had
five dashes in it, presumably used to separate the body of the append from
a postscript.

I plan to make a modification to the software that doesn't simply reject
appends with five dashes in column one.  Thanks for making noise on this
one.

Davis

From:  [e-mail]

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 23:19:00 on 92/09/04 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST)
Subject: OS2BBS MSG Problems?
Ref: Append at 20:56:04 on 92/09/04 GMT (by FOLGER at WATSON)

No, THANK YOU!!!

I was thrilled to see my messages at last, but still had a sinking
sensation that something was missing. (IANC - I am Not Crazy!)<G!>

The dashes are curious. After reading your post and then ReReading my
original gripe - I remembered that the missing posts were rather long.
I remember dashes in one. However, the common element among them was my
frequent use of the REFORMAT option here on the forum.

Might be a red herring..but I thought I would pass it on.

Luck and many thanks!

Dan Lundy          Time Customer Service, Inc.                      Tampa, Fl

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 23:53:19 on 92/09/04 GMT (by SADS29F at OS2CUST)
Subject: View oldest items first?

I have just started reading the OS2BBSforums, and haven't figured out how
to see a sequence of appends in chronological order.  Is there a way?
I suppose there's an advantage to always getting the punch line first,
but sometimes it gets tiresome waiting until the last item to see what
the question was.  Thanks!

Dick Duncan, Alameda County DPD

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 15:42:02 on 92/09/05 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST)
Subject: View oldest items first?
Ref: Append at 23:53:19 on 92/09/04 GMT (by SADS29F at OS2CUST)

Dick,

 To read oldest to newest, you have to move to the last panel available in
the forum. Move to the message at the bottom of the panel. Then use F9 to
back up through the messages (move forward in time).

Also, if you see an interesting thread you wish to follow, use FIND on
the title of the thread so that only ITS messages are displayed. Then,
move to the bottom and F9 through it.

Dan Lundy          Time Customer Service, Inc.                      Tampa, Fl

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 08:45:29 on 92/09/06 GMT (by CAMILLE at CHGVMIC1)
Subject: Using PCTERM with BBS

I am new to BBS.  I just called in tonight using PCTERM.  It worked
fine except I could not find a way to turn the ECHO off.  Only my
keystrokes were echoed.  The screens from BBS were fine.

Any suggestions ?  Pardon my ignorance....

Carol Miller

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 02:50:44 on 92/09/08 GMT (by PNWB016 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Bug in PMHPO

Am I the only one seeing this problem in PMHPO????

1) Logon to the OS2BBS
2) Get to the screen before this one.
3) Use Ctrl/Esc and switch to a windowed OS/2 session
4) Use Ctrl/Esc to switch back to PMHPO.
5) Press the Enter key (actually the right CTRL key).

At this point the system behaves like I have pressed PF3. Every time I
press right Ctrl the system backs up one screen. If I press the LEFT CTRL
and ALT keys then this "undoes" whatever the problem is and everything is
fine.

This fails 100% of the ime on my machine.

Wayne "I use it I bust it" Holmes
U S WEST Communications

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 04:01:49 on 92/09/08 GMT (by NIKOROPO at SFOVMIC1)
Subject: Bug in PMHPO
Ref:     Append at 02:50:44 on 92/09/08 GMT (by PNWB016 at OS2CUST)

Wayne,  I don't have direct access to the OS2BBS but I do have PMHPO.  I
do not see this behavior when viewing the forums via the Foraview I am
using.  Foraview maps the enter (right CTRL) to go to the next page or
append.  I cannot comment on the facilities at your disposal.  I am
curious as to why you are using the CTRL-ESC to switch to another app.
instead of just using the mouse.  It almost sounds like your using the
DOS HPO.

     Neil Koropoff
     NWTA, Personal Systems Solutions

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 11:10:07 on 92/09/08 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE81)
Subject: Bug in PMHPO
Ref: Append at 02:50:44 on 92/09/08 GMT (by PNWB016 at OS2CUST)

Wayne,
I've seen that problem several times in the different versions I have tested,
haven't seen it yet in the released version. Thought the sticky CTRL key was
fixed but apparently it's still there.

If you stop bustin' em they'll never find all the bugs.

Jack Hiatt  Marc Life  Atlanta Ga.

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 14:25:06 on 92/09/08 GMT (by PNWB016 at HONE81)
Subject: Bug in PMHPO
Ref: Append at 04:01:49 on 92/09/08 GMT (by NIKOROPO at SFOVMIC1)

Neil: Fortunately Jack said he is seeing this problem as well.
Since Jack posted I have done more testing and it appears that
the left Ctrl key is being toggled without my knowledge.

Wayne

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 14:25:35 on 92/09/08 GMT (by PNWB016 at HONE81)
Subject: Bug in PMHPO
Ref: Append at 11:10:07 on 92/09/08 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE81)

Jack: Nice to know I'm not going crazy (or at least any crazier
than I already am! <g>).

Looks like as long as I don't switch away from PMHPO then I'm
OK. (Of course that takes a lot of the fun away from OS/2.) Shoot,
I may as well be running Windows. <gd&r>

Wayne "Zing!!!!" Holmes

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 16:01:13 on 92/09/08 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)
Subject: Bug in PMHPO
Ref: Append at 02:50:44 on 92/09/08 GMT (by PNWB016 at OS2CUST)

Yep. The "sticky" Ctrl key is back.  The problem will come up even if you don't
switch to another window.  Just hitting Ctrl-Esc to bring up the Task List,
then Enter to go right back to PMHPO will cause PMHPO to think that the left
Ctrl key is stuck down causing not only the right Ctrl key to not work properly
but other keystrokes as well.

As a temporary work around until we get a fix, just press the left Ctrl key to
take it out of it's "down" state.

Brent Allen - IBM LAN Systems Integration Services   Southlake, TX

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 17:20:10 on 92/09/08 GMT (by PNWB016 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Bug in PMHPO
Ref: Append at 16:01:13 on 92/09/08 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)

Brent: Thanks for confirming this... too bad I don't get paid "by the bug
revealed" <grin>

Wayne "I really DON'T want to work on commission" Holmes
U S WEST Communications

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 18:20:17 on 92/09/08 GMT (by IL78568 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Bug in PMHPO
Ref: Append at 16:01:13 on 92/09/08 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)

Brent,

I would appreciate it if you could get any details on what causes these
"sticky control key" problems.  I'm using CM through a corporate link to
the IIN now, and haven't tried PMHPO as of yet, BUT I reported an identical
problem with HyperAccess 5 V2.1.

I had vaguely remembered some Ctl key sticking problems from the EEP, so
I reported it here under option 2 on the main screen.  The response was
that no one knew of any such problems with OS/2, so it most likely was a
problem with the vendor package.  So the problem was closed.

This PMHPO episode makes me think that there IS some problem (possibly
some API or something in the application code that isn't working as
expected) which may be common to these symptoms.

Thanks!

Brooks McNeely - Martin Marietta Energy Systems, Inc.

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 21:39:58 on 92/09/08 GMT (by IL22993 at OS2CUST)
Subject: PMHPO and Monochrom Screens

Can anyone tell me if there is a way to cause PMHPO to display everything in
monochrome rather than use colors?  I use an IBM 8514/A Adapter with an IB

8507 19" monochrome screen.  The color red does not show up on my screen at all
and this makes things rather difficult to see.  (I assume it is red this time.
that is what was missing last time I swapped monitors to find the problem).

I figure that I can manually change the colors in the OS2BBS configuration
from the BBS side, but that does not help with IBMLINK.  If there were a
/mono switch or similar it would be a great help.

I have searched help and gone through all the options but cannot find any
assistance.

Please pick colors that are visible on the 8514/8507 combination!   Thanks.

George Clark, Norton Company

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 21:49:40 on 92/09/08 GMT (by IL22993 at OS2CUST)
Subject: PMHPO Download problems

I seem to have one more problem with PMHPO that is causing download to not
work correctly.

I double-click the "BBS Download" object and SHOWTOPC.CMD is correctly
downloaded.  The pc then runs SHOWTOPC, and it issues a receive command
such as...
    RECEIVE HPFS.ZIP A :HPFS ZIPBIN Z1 (

However... The HOST screen contains a partial IND$FILE command, missing
the file name HPFS.ZIP.  All the receive commands end with an error code
of 3 or something like that (I documented this in a prior message to the
General Q&A forum but it looks like this is a better place to ask!)

The only way I HAVE been able to download from IBMLINK or OS2BBS has been
with Extended Services Ascii terminal emulation (VT100).  That works fine
but VERY SLOWLY.

PMFTRM is also slow, and only the download is intermittent, often scrambling
the IND$FILE command.  (Starting in column 60 or so and wrapping back to col.
1?)

PMHPO is GREAT speed wise,  I really like this 9600 connection,  but no
download ???

Any suggestions?????   Thanks

George Clark, Norton Company

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 03:39:01 on 92/09/09 GMT (by NAAG8T6 at OS2CUST)
Subject: PMHPO 'First Item' bug

If I list 'new items' or 'all items', then pick some item to look at, and keep
backing thru the items with PF9, THEN when I have finally reached the first
item and hit PF9 (since I don't know it's the first one), it SHOULD say 'First
Item' as the error message, but with PMHPO I get 'invalid key pressed' and then
get the symptoms Wayne reported (Right Ctl acts as PF3, etc).

Otherwise, I really like PMHPO (and PMFTERM, which I'm using at the moment to
get in another way, not having known the workaround suggested (left CTL)).

Bruce Ferrero @ Aetna, Middletown, CT

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 05:13:51 on 92/09/09 GMT (by LNK1SM3 at MARTLINK)
Subject: Bug in PMHPO
Ref: Append at 18:20:17 on 92/09/08 GMT (by IL78568 at OS2CUST)

To the people with the sticky Ctrl Key problem. The best workaround for
now is to do what BRENT said in a previous append to this forum. If the
problem starts to show press the left ctrl key to release the sticky
state. We have traced this problem to some code that came from the code
that PMHPO was originally derived from. A permanent solution to this
problem is in the works.

Joseph Moagvero

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 05:22:47 on 92/09/09 GMT (by LNK1SM3 at MARTLINK)
Subject: PMHPO and Monochrom Screens
Ref: Append at 21:39:58 on 92/09/08 GMT (by IL22993 at OS2CUST)

We know of this problem. When I am at home to is hard to read text on
the screen if it is red. (I use a L40SX at home). I would say, if there
are more people with this type of problem that it be voiced on this forum.
We are looking into many ideas about this if you'll would put your
idea's out on this forum we will be looking at them. Thank You.

Joseph Moagvero

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 05:37:09 on 92/09/09 GMT (by LNK1SM3 at MARTLINK)
Subject: PMHPO Download problems
Ref: Append at 21:49:40 on 92/09/08 GMT (by IL22993 at OS2CUST)

If you could append to this forum what kind of machine you have we will
see what we can do. If you could also tell us what gateway you dialing into
this will also help. I have a question, does anything download with you
use SHOWTOPC.CMD? A return code of three means everything should have gone
well.

Joseph Moagvero

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 11:20:19 on 92/09/09 GMT (by NAAG8T6 at OS2CUST)
Subject: PMHPO 'First Item' bug
Ref: Append at 03:39:01 on 92/09/09 GMT (by NAAG8T6 at OS2CUST)

Re PM/HPO 'First item' not working: I thought this was an 'always' problem,
but it worked this am, so I guess not.

Enhancements: copy/paste and mouse support in general would be nice.

Bruce Ferrero @ Aetna, Middletown, CT

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 11:34:33 on 92/09/09 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE81)
Subject: Bug in PMHPO
Ref: Append at 18:20:17 on 92/09/08 GMT (by IL78568 at OS2CUST)

Brooks,
There has been a long standing problem that showed up even in DOS with some
bios' that caused the same type of problem.  Don't know weither that has ever
been corrected by the various bios makers.  Know we see it from time to time
at work on a group of systems with Phoenix bios.

Jack Hiatt  Marc Life  Atlanta Ga.

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 11:35:07 on 92/09/09 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE81)
Subject: PMHPO Download problems
Ref: Append at 21:49:40 on 92/09/08 GMT (by IL22993 at OS2CUST)

George,
Try doing a download at 4800 instead of 9600 and see if that works.  I know
there is a problem that is being worked that can cause download problems at
9600.

Jack Hiatt  Marc Life  Atlanta Ga.

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 13:39:31 on 92/09/09 GMT (by SLAUSON at WATSON)
Subject: PMHPO and Monochrom Screens
Ref:     Append at 05:22:47 on 92/09/09 GMT (by LNK1SM3 at MARTLINK)

FYI, Some of the fields don't show up on the P70's amber screen either.

David Slauson
IBM T.J. Watson Research Center, Yorktown Heights, NY

From:  [e-mail]

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 14:35:01 on 92/09/09 GMT (by PNWB016 at HONE81)
Subject: PMHPO and Monochrom Screens
Ref: Append at 05:22:47 on 92/09/09 GMT (by LNK1SM3 at MARTLINK)

Joseph: I have the problem.

Wayne "Also using a L40SX at home" Holmes
U S WEST Communications

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 18:58:27 on 92/09/09 GMT (by NAAO3IY at OS2CUST)
Subject: PMHPO Download problems
Ref: Append at 21:49:40 on 92/09/08 GMT (by IL22993 at OS2CUST)

The host does not know or care what the name of the file on the
PC is in IND$FILE, so it's not _supposed_ to be on the command.

Not that you don't have a problem -- but that particular fact is
not part of it.

John Kennedy -- Hoechst Celanese, Bridgewater, NJ

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 19:47:35 on 92/09/09 GMT (by IL22993 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Download Problems Revisited

I will try the 4800 link next time.  This time I selected the first 12 items
in this forum for download, then picked download, "A" session, selected all
12 entries, and when prompted, double-clicked the BBS Download ICON.

SHOWTOPC was successfully transmitted - 113 bytes
Then it tried to receive the $$show$$ file.  The IND$FILE command was
again scrambled... the file type was TX, and I received an INDFT01N
missing or invalid CMS file ID.  (or something like that .. had to write fast)
and when I tried a 2nd time, OS/2 BBS aborted and I had to re-establish from
IBMLINK.

Same session, same execution of PM HPO, I went throug the whole procedure
again.  This time the receive command goes code 0, and never tries to
place anything in the PMHPO window.

I am going to delete PMFTRM and try to make sure that there is nothing on my
PC that might be interfering.  (I have not used PMFTRM in a week or two but
it IS out there...)   I have a 70-A21, 16Meg, and am going through a Rolm
244PC at 9600 into a modem pool using MultiTech modems.

George Clark, Norton Company

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 20:16:32 on 92/09/09 GMT (by IL22993 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Downloading... One More Time...

This time I deleted PMFTRM, made certain there were no old SHOWTOPC.CMD files
lying around, changed PMHPO to 4800, stopped and restarted it, and then
dialed back in.  (1-800-727-5611  Worcester MA).

Again tried tagging first 11 entries of this forum, download from session
A, selected all 11, and when prompted double-clicked BBS-Download.

The get for SHOWTOPC worked fine.  When SHOWTOPC executed, the get command
was truncated at the   A:$$SHOW$$ TX
The "T" in TXT was missing as was the (ASCII CRLF.  I believe that the receive
command is correct and that the problem occurs between the receive and the
ind$file GET.  Since it deletes itself I can't be sure.

Received the INDFT01N error message - invalid or missing CMS file type.

At this point I am at a complete loss.  If there are any other suggestions or
any traces or diagnosics that I can do to help resolve this problem, please
let me know and I will be more than willing to try some more.

Thanks.

George "want that fast download" Clark,  Norton Company

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 23:12:57 on 92/09/10 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST)
Subject: PM-HPO SYS3175 failure

Using PM-HPO is a lot of fun....  You never know how it will surprise you.

Today I tag'd an item to download, got to the download screen and then
clicked on the download icon.  The .cmd came down fine and then the
surprise - SYS3175 at 26f9c. in pmhpo.exe 0001 when attempting to
bring down the text file.

No I did not write down the other information.  I did repeat it one more
time after re-connecting.

Connection is at 9600 bps.....

1)  Why can't OS/2 allow simple capture of this failure information
    instead of reverting to the ancient multi-finger leaded transcription
    technique....?
2)  PM-HPO is not ready for prime time.  It needs more testing/development
    and must be bullet proof.
3)  PM-HPO is a good start, now go back and put in what INPCS-HPO has and
    add Mouse, cut/paste, cua, multiple session, scripting and add from
    FTTERM printer support.

Lionel Dyck - Rockwell International, Information Systems Center

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 15:08:12 on 92/09/11 GMT (by TCC3961 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Is there a way to follow threads in a message?

Most bulletin boards, or at least a lot of them, have a way for person to
follow the threads of a message.  The thread of a message is the reply to a
message, and replies to the replies, etc.  Is there a way to do that here?
Even with many different catagories, the diversity of messages inside each
forem causes the need for this.  If it can not be done now, are there any
plans of implementing it.  I think it would help people navigate through
what they want to read MUCH faster.

Craig

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 15:55:19 on 92/09/11 GMT (by LNK1SM3 at MARTLINK)
Subject: PM-HPO SYS3175 failure
Ref: Append at 23:12:57 on 92/09/10 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST)

Thank you for your input. You gave just the information we would ask about,
the 'SYS3175 at XXXXXXX' is just what we will need to find the error so
keep up the good work. To the rest of your questions:

1. This is an OS/2 problem we have tried to make sure that if there
   are any PMHPO internal errors that thay are put in a file called
   PMHPO.LOG.

2. PMHPO is a large program over 35,000 lines of code and it is a port
   from the DOS version of INPCS-HPO. If you noticed INPCS-HPO has had
   4 new versions of there software in the last 2 months. PMHPO is not
   going to stay static. We released PMHPO just 11 days ago and the
   development team is working real hard to fix problems and improve
   the software.

3. As was said early PMHPO is a limted version of INPCS-HPO.

Joseph Moagvero

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 17:47:10 on 92/09/11 GMT (by HNDERSON at AUSVM8)
Subject: Bug in PMHPO
Ref:     Append at 02:50:44 on 92/09/08 GMT (by PNWB016 at OS2CUST)
WAYNE, I BELIEVE IT'S CALL THE STICKY (LEFT) CTRL KEY.

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 22:36:23 on 92/09/11 GMT (by PNWB016 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Delay in posting

I have submitted several message this morning (Friday) and as of 3:36 Pacific
they are still not visible. As a matter of fact, there have been NO appends
(that I can find) after a certain time on Friday.

Is one of the service machines down? Would it be possible to have the
bulletin updated to reflect this in the future? (It would save a lot of
needless access to the BBS, hoping to find an answer to some questions
I submitted.)

Thanks!

Wayne "Maybe you should use some OS/2 BBS software? <g>" Holmes

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 01:25:40 on 92/09/12 GMT (by AAEE1AN at OS2CUST)
Subject: Curious absence of updates for Fri 11Sep92

Brent or whoever,
Is the BB now read-only, or is it just broken?

There is a curious absence of updates for all of today 11Sep92, and
I am sure that least one of the Holmeses (Bob or Wayne) posted
something to the DEBATES forum.

Mike Andrews, Mgr, Tech support, Okla. Dept. of Transportation [phone]

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 03:21:13 on 92/09/12 GMT (by IL87411 at OS2CUST)
Subject: SHOWTOPC Enhancement Request

This may seem like a simple request (at least it seems so to me), but would
it be possible to get the file size and download time estimate (at 2400
or 9600, I'm sure we can convert) added to the SHOWTOPC.CMD file as REM
statements?  That way we could be reminded just how much time it should
take if we didn't bother to write it all down.

Just a thought.  I'm sure your programmers would figure this out if they
were the ones having to pull the new stuff down each night.....

Lynn (D)
Computer Task Group/ISI
Melbourne, FL

Lynn Deffenbaugh

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 20:12:10 on 92/09/13 GMT (by PNWB016 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Is this BBS still working?

Has the OS/2 BBS been taken down? I can still read things, but nothing
new (including my appends) have shown up. Is IBM dropping support? Did I
miss an announcement?

Wayne "Maybe the last IBM employee took ITO <grin>" Holmes

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 14:20:19 on 92/09/14 GMT (by IL41468 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Is anyone out there?

I will try and see if this message gets through. This is Monday morning
92-9-14 about 14:00 GMT (8 am in Utah) and I can find no posts since about
04:30 GMT on 92/9/11. Am I the last person left here, if so I will turn out
the lights. I attempted a post to this formum at about 10:00 MDT on 92/09/12
but it has disappear from this formum. However it did reappear attached to a
problem report I made last night. (about 22:00 MDT on 92/9/13). Has anyone
else been experiencing the "twilight zone" besides me?

John M. Schaeffer (AIMS - Sandy, Utah)

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 14:26:14 on 92/09/14 GMT (by IL41468 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Is there anyone out there?

I just attempted another message and it disappered? Is anyone out there?

John M. Schaeffer (AIMS - Sandy, Utah)

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 14:29:56 on 92/09/14 GMT (by PNWB016 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Monday morning - Still no updates

Well... it is Monday morning and there STILL haven't been any updates to
the BBS. Is this BBS still alive? Could someone PLEASE update the
bulletins to explain whas is going on.

Wayne "All I hear is my own echo" Holmes

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 14:31:05 on 92/09/14 GMT (by PNWB016 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Bug in PMHPO
Ref: Append at 16:01:13 on 92/09/08 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)

 (no text entered)

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 19:18:54 on 92/09/14 GMT (by WZ00533 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Is there anyone out there?
Ref: Append at 14:26:14 on 92/09/14 GMT (by IL41468 at OS2CUST)

John,

I'm here.... John.... Hello....Hello.....

I also noticed a severe lack of activity since 9/11.  Although maybe everyone
is, like me, simply watching, reading, and not posting.  This is my first
post in about a month (I asked Lee Reiswig to respond to a open letter in
Windows magazine, he never did!).

Dave Ferrey - Bethlehem Steel Corp. - Bethlehem PA.

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 19:43:17 on 92/09/14 GMT (by IL41468 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Is there anyone out there?
Ref: Append at 19:18:54 on 92/09/14 GMT (by WZ00533 at OS2CUST)

Thank you Dave, I just got a call from the IBM OS2BBS people saying there had
been a problem and that it was just fixed about an hour ago.

John M. Schaeffer (AIMS - Sandy, Utah)

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 22:27:19 on 92/09/14 GMT (by IL41468 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Permier(e) OS/2 Bulletin Board System?

I read a comment on this BBs from an IBM'er about wanting this BBS to become
the premier OS/2 bbs. IBM has a long way to go before that is true. The idea of
this board, in its present form, developing into the premier OS/2 Bulletin
board is frighting. If it does, then OS/2 will be a failure.

I say the above not out of anger but out of sadness. Os/2 is currently
superior to any operating system currently available on the market (yes, i
have used UNIX), but to stay that way things need to improve. There are
many problems IBM needs to solve (including OS/2 CSD's) but let us stick
here to problems with this BBS.

1) The interface here is slow and involved. It took the worst qualities of
IBMLINK without giving us some of the work arrounds. Why did IBM try to
re-invent the concept of a BBS when there have been many tried and true
interfaces developed over the years. See your cousins over on the NSC-BBS out
of Atlanta. Their interface is not the best I have seen but it is light years
ahead of this one. This interface would appeal to only to IBMLINK users who
have never seen anything else.

2) You are charging customers fot his board, unless they are a favored customer
or a technical co-ordinator. Make it easy, quick, and low cost for them to use
it. I do not mean lowing your charges, I mean lowering the online time it
takes to use this board.
A) Create a option that would allow a user to set up in his profile those
   forma (formums to non Latin majors) which he wishes to follow. A sign-on
   time accumlate all new message in these forma into a file and zip it for
   down loading. AUTOMATICALLY.
B) Provide an offline message reader that would allow users to track a thread.
   I go to sleep sometimes while this board on IBMLINK is changing screens.
C) Provide an offline message preperation facility with in the offline message
   reader, so that costly connect time is not taken up with typing.
D) Provide a upline load for the message prepared offline so that they can be
   appended to the proper forma. Upline loads could be restricted to appends
   only.
E) Speed up the file transfer software. IND$FILE has peeked for me at 152
   characters a second. On NSC BBS I have run XMODEM at 170 characters a
   second and YMODEM at 220 characters a second. This amount to 36 minutes
   difference on the download of a 1Mb file. Remember time is money to our
   friends paying connect charges.

3) Work out some way of attracting individuals (especially creative ones) to
   to this board. People like Jack Haight on the NSC BBS are non-IBM'ers but
   are doing more than 99 percent of IBM in promoting OS/2. (yes, Jack I have
   seen you here too). Some of this one person connections may develop into
   the Word Perfects and Novells of the future (note the UTAH plug). She sould
   be considered in you efforts. OS/2 belongs with the masses not just with
   the Fortune 1000. Remember the little person, her three main concerns are
   cost, cost, and cost.

John M. Schaeffer (AIMS - Sandy, Utah)

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 22:36:17 on 92/09/14 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Message Problems Again

I just read (what I could!) in this base...

It does seem there was a BBS problem.

To further report:

 Ref: Append at 15:02:26 on 92/09/11 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST)
on the C Set forum vanished...although it did garner responses before
it bit it.

Personally, this is the second documented (third perceived) time I have
lost messages and seen the board on hold for days.

There are truly problems in Denmark....

Could one of the powers that be PLEASE let us know what is going on!!!!

Dan Lundy          Time Customer Service, Inc.                      Tampa, Fl

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 23:53:01 on 92/09/14 GMT (by XXVALC01 at TORVMCOP)
Subject: OS2MISC CFORUM Broken

When I try to browse OS2MISC CFORUM, I get:

(msg no.) Error 3 on block read

and I cannot access any messages in the forum.

Broke?

Tony Valenti
Valcomp Technology Inc.
[phone]

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 23:59:19 on 92/09/14 GMT (by XXVALC01 at TORVMCOP)
Subject: OS2WPS CFORUM Broken

I get the same error when trying to browse OS2WPS CFORUM.

Tony Valenti
Valcomp Technology Inc.
[phone]

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 12:33:21 on 92/09/15 GMT (by DARKELF at BCRVM1)
Subject: Monday morning - Still no updates
Ref:     Append at 14:29:56 on 92/09/14 GMT (by PNWB016 at OS2CUST)

Hello Wayne, we are still here and I read this board every morning.
Actually I read several of them every morning (I get to work at 6am).
I've seen you on several of the boards, sorry if you feel that you are
not getting any answers to your questions.  Things are happening,
hopefully someone with some key dates that if they are
allowed to will share them with you.Alot of it is what we are allowed
to say.

Ray LaTulippe (Hello Wayne, Wayne, wakeup Wayne ;-))

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 14:53:20 on 92/09/15 GMT (by NOSWALD at TORECS)
Subject: OS2MISC CFORUM Broken
Ref:     Append at 23:53:01 on 92/09/14 GMT (by XXVALC01 at TORVMCOP)

Tony,

Yes, the ICONF application used as the interface to the Canadian
IBMlink OS2BBS appears to have become confused. I'll investigate.
Thanks.

Regards Norval Oswald, Canadian IBMlink Development/Support Team
IBM Canada Ltd, 3600 Steeles Ave E, Markham, Ont, Canada L36 3R9
NORVKO AT TORIBM AND CANVM2, T/L 8-886-5445 ==> 1 [phone]

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 14:55:46 on 92/09/15 GMT (by NOSWALD at TORECS)
Subject: OS2WPS CFORUM Broken
Ref:     Append at 23:59:19 on 92/09/14 GMT (by XXVALC01 at TORVMCOP)

Tony,

Same problem ... It looks like the software needs to have the conference
disk re-accessed. I'll be putting in a fix for this shortly. Thanks.

Regards Norval Oswald, Canadian IBMlink Development/Support Team
IBM Canada Ltd, 3600 Steeles Ave E, Markham, Ont, Canada L36 3R9
NORVKO AT TORIBM AND CANVM2, T/L 8-886-5445 ==> 1 [phone]

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 17:13:34 on 92/09/15 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE83)
Subject: Permier(e) OS/2 Bulletin Board System?
Ref: Append at 22:27:19 on 92/09/14 GMT (by IL41468 at OS2CUST)

John,
I appreciate the praise and publicity, but please spell my name right.

Just joking.  Take care.

Jack Hiatt    MARC-Life   Atlanta  Ga.

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 19:26:41 on 92/09/15 GMT (by IL41468 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Permier(e) OS/2 Bulletin Board System?
Ref: Append at 17:13:34 on 92/09/15 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE83)

Let's see HIATT and JACK I think I've got it now. Sorry but I am a grad of
Georgia Tech everyone there takes English (and spelling) as a foreign
language and your name is not yet in my dictionary as a symonym for
"helpful".

John M. Schaeffer (AIMS - Sandy, Utah)

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 22:40:00 on 92/09/15 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE86)
Subject: Permier(e) OS/2 Bulletin Board System?
Ref: Append at 19:26:41 on 92/09/15 GMT (by IL41468 at OS2CUST)

AHA the Yellowjacket explains it all. Just don't let my father-in-law see
that he may be 72 but bet he would still try to box my ears.

Again thanks for the kind words John.

Jack Hiatt  Marc Life  Atlanta Ga.

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 00:37:03 on 92/09/16 GMT (by HNDERSON at AUSVM8)
Subject: Is there a way to follow threads in a message?
Ref:     Append at 15:08:12 on 92/09/11 GMT (by TCC3961 at OS2CUST)
There is a application coming within the month call FORBROWS that
gives you function plus alot more.  Stay tune for it...
It's works with PMHPO and CMMGR Ver 2.0..........

 __   __      ___      __  __   _   _
|  |_|  |    /   \    |  \|  | | |./ / Hank Henderson HNDERSON at AUSVM8
|   _   |   / _~_ \  Sincerely |  . < on Assignment to OS/2 BBS (TEAMOS2)
|__| |__|  /_/   \_\  |__|\__| |_| \_\ Tie:8-793-8647  Austin, Texas
                                       LNK1SM7 @ IBMLINK - OS/2 BBS

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 04:01:13 on 92/09/16 GMT (by IL41468 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Numbers to use for PMHPO

I have been try to connect PMHPO to IIN for a few days now with no success
I found an 800 number for Sandy (Salt City) utah in a file in my PMHPO
directory so I just tryied it and it worked. Why does my local IIN number
fail to make contact using PMHPO and the 800 number work?

John M. Schaeffer (AIMS - Sandy, Utah)

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 04:23:16 on 92/09/16 GMT (by HOPKINS at AUSVM8)
Subject: Lost appends, delayed postings, BBS Committment (long append)

:PANTS DOWN
ohmygosh, we did it again. Looks like we set all the flags for
boundary checking on all the systems except the one that barfed.
Kinda like pouring a gallon into a thimble on this one.

:PANTS UP
All 'lost appends' should be inserted by now; please let me know if
any disappeared.
Anyway, the problem has been identified, corrected, and will be
corrected with some of our more sophisticated routines to tell us
when it's choking.

This way, we can shut it down for a couple days to check it out and....
NO, WAYNE, please, NOT THE BASEBALL BAT....AHHHHHHHHHGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!
:HOHO OFF
:COMMITTMENT TO FUTURE ON
We will NOT EVER 'shut down' the system without notifying everyone in
advance. Movie theatres would go out of business fast if they cleaned
the projectors in the middle of the 7:00 show.

Speaking of Premiere:        (where'd that come from? <grin>)
We are now in the process of aligning the service strategies together
to ensure that the postings here are the right ones, current, and
include up-to-date fix packages from the OS/2 development groups.
We, IBM, have always concentrated on the quality of Service Delivery
for our products with a couple key notes. Service strategies that
have excelled in the past are not going to work the same way they used
to. Customers need better access, faster turnaround time from report
to fix-in-hand, and we are committed to this philosophy.
The hurdle we're faced with is that the service strategy for High-end
systems is based on a Preventive Service concept, but the service
strategy for Personal Systems has been based on a Corrective Service
platform. No news is good news; call and we'll address any problem you
give us. Today's technology requires access to virtually all available
information, and with the superior skill base we see in the market
place, we now know that the customer has the capability of choosing
the right fix, the first time, PROVIDED THAT WE CAN GIVE YOU THE INFO
YOU NEED TO FIND THE FIX!
I've done a bit of homework on the cost/price/net return on both ends
of the computer industry, and have found that we can easily fulfill
a Preventive Service strategy for Personal Systems technology. The
only drawback is the price we'd pay for this service. A preventive
maintenance contract with all the trimmings (ratio pretty close)
would come to around $7400 for OS/2 with a $1960 upgrade fee from
release to release. Acceptable in today's market? >>>>> N O T ! <<<<<
So, we've got some work to do for you, and here's some things that
are coming:
* comprehensive listings of problems (APARs): opened and closed
  with closing codes for tracking. Updated at 8 business hour intervals.
++++ now you can find a match to a known, reported problem right here
     on the OS2BBS. Download when ready, put it on, go back to work.
* provide a COMPREHENSIVE download library of the items that you
  need to fix the problems you encounter without having to wait for us
  to give it to you. Up to date, complete, right from Development.
  Future additions will include Software/Hardware Vendor solutions.
++++ you find it, you download it, you put it on, you go back to work.
* enhancements to the IBM Support Problem Reports that will change
  the response time from days/hours to minutes/seconds. (full tilt 11/1)
++++ if you can't find what you need, we'll get it for you, figure
     out what WE needed to do so you CAN find it in the future, and
     implement the change.

             no more mamby-pamby, wishy-washy support.
We are committed to building for you, the IBM Customer, the best
system available for electronic Operating System Support so you can
continue to use our products for your business, home, and recreation.
You got ideas? Let us know. We'll listen. This is your BBS.
You need something? Let us know. We'll do our best to get it on time.
You don't like something? Let us know. We'll change it.
We stand behind this BBS with a committment that will match or beat any
one else in the business. period.
We have to, because you've staked your reputations, businesses, and
futures on IBM Software.
. . . and so have we.
PS. and oh by the way, you haven't seen much of me out here lately
because I've been hacking on the things I just outlined above.
I've seen everything from here to InterNET, so keep talking, folks.
Sound like a lot of wind? yup.
Can we do it? Let's wait and see what happens. No time frames, just
watch News and Announcemnts, and please try to keep up. <g>

stay tuned to this CFORUM . . . more to come. much, much more.

Ken 'Sorry Wayne, couldn't help myself' Hopkins, OS/2 Software Support
             OS2BBS Administration Team: Process and Performance

'... and flung my eager craft through footless halls of air'
                - from High Flight by Capt. John Gillespie Jr.

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 05:11:52 on 92/09/16 GMT (by IL41468 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Lost appends, delayed postings, BBS Committment (long append)
Ref: Append at 04:23:16 on 92/09/16 GMT (by HOPKINS at AUSVM8)

The 'premier' word in my append first came from a comment by a Henderson of IBM
in another formum.

As to lost appends, I entered my first version of the 'premier' series on Sat.
92/09/12 at about 10am MDT. It disappeared. About 9PM on 92/09/13, I entered a
problem. And lo and behold my first "premier' comment was attached to the end
of the problem. I got a good reaction form the problem people.

I then spent sometime trying to get PMHPO to work. After a number of complete
failures in getting PMHPO to work, I discover an 800 number in the PMHPO
folder for my area. I tried it in place of my local IIN number and it worked.
Also the 800 number does not work with my "old" INPCS program.

One thing for sure, the performance of the PMHPO program is much better than
any other program I have use with IIN. The speed is much better.

Now I wait to see if FORBROWS will handle the other issues I addressed. I saw
an append that indicated it would be out in about a month.

John M. Schaeffer (AIMS - Sandy, Utah)

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 13:52:14 on 92/09/16 GMT (by CONC7L02 at DALVM41B)
Subject: Numbers to use for PMHPO
Ref:     Append at 04:01:13 on 92/09/16 GMT (by IL41468 at OS2CUST)

What is the local number you are using? I can check the gateway to
see if there have been problems.

Joseph Mogavero

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 14:05:31 on 92/09/16 GMT (by HNDERSON at AUSVM8)
Subject: Lost appends, delayed postings, BBS Committment (long append)
Ref:     Append at 05:11:52 on 92/09/16 GMT (by IL41468 at OS2CUST)
John, just to let you know Ken Hopkins and myself (Hank Henderson)
work together in fact share the same office.

 __   __      ___      __  __   _   _
|  |_|  |    /   \    |  \|  | | |./ / Hank Henderson HNDERSON at AUSVM8
|   _   |   / _~_ \  Sincerely |  . < Staff OSS to OS/2 BBS (TEAMOS2)
|__| |__|  /_/   \_\  |__|\__| |_| \_\ Tie:8-793-8647  Austin, Texas
                                       LNK1SM7 @ IBMLINK - OS/2 BBS

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 14:13:32 on 92/09/16 GMT (by XXVALC01 at TORVMCOP)
Subject: OS2MISC CFORUM Broken
Ref:     Append at 14:53:20 on 92/09/15 GMT (by NOSWALD at TORECS)

Thanks, all the fora seem to work now.

Tony Valenti
Valcomp Technology Inc.
[phone]

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 14:31:58 on 92/09/16 GMT (by IL41468 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Numbers to use for PMHPO
Ref: Append at 13:52:14 on 92/09/16 GMT (by CONC7L02 at DALVM41B)

The local number is 359-0322 in area code 801. The 800 number that works with
HPO is 800-284-9280 (I am using that one now).

John M. Schaeffer (AIMS - Sandy, Utah)

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 15:00:50 on 92/09/16 GMT (by PNWB016 at HONE81)
Subject: Lost appends, delayed postings, BBS Committment (long append)
Ref: Append at 04:23:16 on 92/09/16 GMT (by HOPKINS at AUSVM8)

Ken: You know, the prices you quoted for support don't look too
bad if you look at them from a DSLO standpoint.  Consider our
installation... we support 100+ OS/2 workstations, but we would
only need the "premium" service on ONE of those machines. We
typically reproduce all of the IBM reported problems on my
machine anyway, so paying and extra $5,000 a year for the OS/2
equilivant of Software Excel Extended isn't as crazy as it first
appears.

When you talked about all the APARS being availble, are you taking
about the descriptions or the fixes? If the fixes, then how do
we coordinate resolving the co-req/pre-req dependencys? (Lobbying
for an "SMP-like" facility again. <g>)

Thanks for all the thought/effort you are obviously putting into
this. If sorry if my impatience is showing, but the workgroup I'm
in is the ONLY island of OS/2 in a SEA of *NIX and *INDOWS... and
we need to PROVE that OS/2 is really the way to go. (Besides, if
I go under I'm determined to take as many IBMers with me as I can!
<<<< GRIN >>>>)

Wayne "Have I started a trend?" Holmes
U S WEST Communications

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 15:01:31 on 92/09/16 GMT (by PNWB016 at HONE81)
Subject: PMHPO Bug?

I was composing some appends last night using PMHPO 1.1 and ran into
a couple of problems... Hopefully these have already been reported,
but in case not here goes:

1) I was composing a multi-page append and when I scrolled back
to a previous page found that several lines of the text had been
moved around. It almost looked like the bottom 3rd of the screen
had been "cut" out and layed on top of the top 3rd. (Frustrating
to say the least.)

2) While retyping my append to correct the problem in #1, I hit
F8, the phone line was termined and PMHPO ended. To say I was
suprised was quite an understatement. It sure LOOKED like the
program "ABENDED", but there was no message describing any
kind of error.

Wayne "... back to using Communications Manager" Holmes
U S WEST Communications

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 18:19:39 on 92/09/16 GMT (by AAEE1AN at OS2CUST)
..... OS2BBS CFORUM modified at 13:50:02 on 92/09/17 GMT (by AAEE1AN at OS2CUST)
Subject: Another Usability Concern
Ref: Append at 18:28:23 on 92/07/24 GMT (by ERICM2 at SPPVM1)

Eric,
.
Any estimate on when we'll get an estimate on when the PFKs will be
rationalized across PROFS, IBMLINK proper, and OS2BBS (or any two of them)?
.
Been about two months since you last responded on this.
.
A "strong push"?
.
Mike Andrews, Mgr, Tech support, Okla. Dept. of Transportation [phone]
.
Sorry about the hash in the original - don't have any idea where it's from.

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 18:30:42 on 92/09/16 GMT (by CONC7L02 at DALVM41B)
Subject: PMHPO Bug?
Ref:     Append at 15:01:31 on 92/09/16 GMT (by PNWB016 at HONE81)

As in an early append, If there is a internal error, (fatal) PMHPO
will make a file called PMHPO.LOG in the subdirctory where PMHPO
is in. Please look in your subdirctory and see if PMHPO.LOG file
is there. If the file is there then put on the forum or send it
to me.

Joseph Mogavero

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 00:02:15 on 92/09/17 GMT (by PTKING at ATLVM1)
Subject: Numbers to use for PMHPO
Ref:     Append at 04:01:13 on 92/09/16 GMT (by IL41468 at OS2CUST)

The HPO versions of INPCS or PMHPO all use different phone numbers.
That is how it works so fast.  Code on both ends to do special
compression, etc.

To all of you using PMHPO for the first time, Select a phone number
from the pull down list in the Install (or is it SETUP???) function.

Paul King

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 00:23:16 on 92/09/17 GMT (by PNWB016 at OS2CUST)
Subject: PMHPO Bug?
Ref: Append at 18:30:42 on 92/09/16 GMT (by CONC7L02 at DALVM41B)

Joseph: Just got home and sure enough there is a LOG file FULL of all kinds
of stuff I don't understand. (Which means it must be VERY useful information
<grin>)

I will take it into work tomorrow and post it first thing. (The file is more
than I want to type in using PMHPO. Since I'm lazy I will use CM and do a
copy/paste.)

Thanks!

Wayne "Looks like I broke another one" Holmes

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 01:25:09 on 92/09/17 GMT (by PNWB016 at OS2CUST)
Subject: PMHPO Bug?
Ref: Append at 18:30:42 on 92/09/16 GMT (by CONC7L02 at DALVM41B)

Joseph: Just found another PMHPO problem... I was downloading some files
from my IBMLink ID.  I started the file transfer and found that whenever
I switched away to another app (in this case it was an OS/2 command
prompt) the file transfer would end.

I am able to easily reproduce this problem. My hardware configuration is
an IBM PS/2 90-0G9 with 12 meg memory and 120 meg harddrive. The modem
involved is a Hayes Smartmodem 2400. The number I'm calling in on is
the Seattle Washington number listed in the dialing directory shipped with
PMHPO.  Oh yes... I checked and there was no new LOG file written.

Do you need more info?

Wayne

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 14:22:20 on 92/09/17 GMT (by PNWB016 at HONE85)
Subject: PMHPO Bug?
Ref: Append at 18:30:42 on 92/09/16 GMT (by CONC7L02 at DALVM41B)

Joseph: As promised, here is the PMHPO.LOG file for the failure
where PMHPO "went away" when I did a scroll operation.

HPOTQ0503F DosSubAllocMem error 311 in task 11

       Pri Thred Cr Name             Ep       Ap       Dp       Sig  First    Final
       --- ----- -- ---------------- -------- -------- -------- ---- -------- --------
ì01┘ 3 000 00001 00           TqOS/2 00000000 00000000 00000000 0000 00000000 00000000
ì02┘ 3 016 00002 01      TqTimerTask 0002A4E0 00000000 00000000 0000 00000000 00000000
ì03┘ 3 112 00004 01       ConMgrTask 000191DC 000688A0 00000000 0000 00000000 00000000
ì04┘ 3 080 00005 03          LnkTask 0001960C 00000000 00000000 0000 00000000 00000000
ì05┘ 3 037 00006 04        CmpRxTask 0001AF34 00000000 00000000 0000 00000000 00000000
ì06┘ 3 224 00007 04        CmpTxTask 0001B3AC 00000000 00000000 0000 00000000 00000000
ì07┘ 3 112 00008 03          mytecfg 00012958 00060E26 00000000 0000 00000000 00000000
ì08┘ 2 000 00000 00          MyteAPI 00000000 00000000 00000000 0000 00000000 00000000
ì09┘ 2 000 00000 00        mytcfgsrq 00000000 00000000 00000000 0000 00000000 00000000
ì10┘ 3 064 00009 07        AlarmTask 000137B8 00000000 00000000 0000 00000000 00000000
ì11┘ 3 096 00010 03           LtTask 0001C9FC 00000000 00000000 0000 00000000 00000000
ì12┘ 3 064 00011 07          SpiTask 00014C04 00000000 00000000 0000 00000000 00000000
ì13┘ 2 000 00000 00        AddrQueue 00060D8A 00000000 00000000 0000 00000000 00000000
ì14┘ 2 000 00000 00        MYTEALARM 00000000 00000000 00000000 0000 00000000 00000000
ì15┘ 2 000 00000 00      myteltspi_a 00000000 00000000 00000000 0000 00000000 00000000
ì16┘ 2 000 00000 00       mytehipq_a 00000000 00000000 00000000 0000 00000000 00000000
ì17┘ 2 000 00000 00       mytqkeyq_a 00000000 00000000 00000000 0000 00143BC0 00143BC0
ì18┘ 2 000 00000 00       mytqkeyq_a 00000000 00000000 00000000 0000 00000000 00000000
ì19┘ 2 000 00000 00           ReplyQ 00000000 00000000 00000000 0000 00000000 00000000
ì20┘ 2 000 00000 00           TimerQ 00000000 00000000 00000000 0000 00000000 00000000
ì21┘ 3 128 00012 01          HllTask 000322C4 00000000 00000000 0000 00000000 00000000
ì22┘ 3 005 00013 01         FileTask 00037408 00000000 00000000 0000 00000000 00000000
ì23┘ 3 128 00014 01           Dialer 00016150 00000000 00000000 0000 00000000 00000000
ì24┘ 2 000 00000 00      DlrRspQueue 00000000 00000000 00000000 0000 00000000 00000000
ì25┘ 2 000 00000 00      DlrSigQueue 00000000 00000000 00000000 0000 00000000 00000000
ì26┘ 2 000 00000 00          DlrTimQ 00000000 00000000 00000000 0000 00000000 00000000

Also... to clarify the other problem I reported (file transfers
aborting when switch to another app.). To reproduce on my machine
I did the following:

1) Logon to IBMLink using Seattle number provided with PMHPO at
   2400 baud using Hayes Smartmodem 2400.

2) Select option 3 (file transfer).

3) Select option 1 (listfile.)

4) Select all files (press ENTER on this screen.)

5) Go down list and select a binary file to be downloaded by putting
   a "t" before the file I wanted to download.

6) Select the "download" option from the PMHPO screen and
   filled in the blanks with the source and target filename.

7) Specify "binary" as the type of file to be downloaded.

8) Press OK.

I then let the file transfer start and made sure that something
was displayed in the file transfer window. I then jumped back to
the desktop and opened an OS/2 command window. Within 10 seconds
the file transfer will abort.

Wayne "It is much easier to describe OS/2 bugs than MVS bugs" Holmes
U S WEST Communications

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 14:27:38 on 92/09/17 GMT (by ERICM2 at SPPVM1)
Subject: Another Usability Concern
Ref:     Append at 18:19:39 on 92/09/16 GMT (by AAEE1AN at OS2CUST)

Mike,

  Sorry I can't give you a firm date on when the PF key settings will be
aligned, but I can tell you that it is in our future business and development
plans for any new releases of these products.

Eric Merkel      IIN Special Projects           Tampa, FL

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 15:24:18 on 92/09/17 GMT (by CONC7L02 at DALVM41B)
Subject: PMHPO Bug?
Ref:     Append at 01:25:09 on 92/09/17 GMT (by PNWB016 at OS2CUST)

I have been able duplicate this problem and we are working on
this problem. Thanks.

Joseph Mogavero.

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 16:13:13 on 92/09/17 GMT (by CONC7L02 at DALVM41B)
Subject: PMHPO Bug?
Ref:     Append at 14:22:20 on 92/09/17 GMT (by PNWB016 at HONE85)

For future information just the first few lines are OK. Thanks for
the help. I have not been able to repeat the problem here, but if
you can find away to repeat the problem, that will help with finding
the problem.

Joseph Mogavero

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 16:16:01 on 92/09/18 GMT (by SAMI3QU at OS2CUST)
Subject: OS2BBS "forgetting" who I am.

Every couple of weeks the OS2BBS "forgets" who I am.  All the display options
I changed are gone, I'm told News and Announcements have been updated, every
message in every forum is "new", and my signature line is gone.  Why is this
happening?  It is becoming quite an annoyance.

Mark Thompson - Coal Services Corp., St. Louis MO

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 17:34:05 on 92/09/18 GMT (by PNWB016 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Another PMHPO crash

Just had another PMHPO crash. This time I was composing an append and
everything "went away".

First couple of lines from the PMHPO.LOG file follow:

HPOTQ0526F DosSubFree error 312 in task 3

       pri thred  Cr   Name        Ep     Ap        Dp      Sig   First   Final

[01] 3 000 00001  00   TqOS/2    00000000 00000000 00000000 0000 00000000 00000
[02] 3 016 00002  01   TqTimerTask 2a4e0  00000000 00000000 0000 00000000 00000
[03] 3 112 00004  01   ConMgrTask  291dc  000688a0 00000000 0000 00000000 00000

BTW... as you can probably tell I typed this in by hand, if you need more info
let me know. (I have saved the PMHPO.LOG so can upload the entire file if you
want it.)

Wayne "Maybe I have 'magic' fingers" Holmes
U S WEST Communications

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 18:20:43 on 92/09/18 GMT (by CONC7L02 at DALVM41B)
Subject: Another PMHPO crash
Ref:     Append at 17:34:05 on 92/09/18 GMT (by PNWB016 at OS2CUST)

Thanks Wayne. We have been able to repeat this problem. We are
working on this problem right now.

Joseph Mogavero

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 19:05:58 on 92/09/18 GMT (by PNWB016 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Another PMHPO crash
Ref: Append at 18:20:43 on 92/09/18 GMT (by CONC7L02 at DALVM41B)

Joseph: I'm glad you have been able to reproduce the problem.  This is
probably premature, but do you have a feel for when "1.2" of PMHPO will
be available? I'm doing a LOT more remote work (away from the machine
with my SNI link to IBMLink) and need to start using PMHPO as my primary
means of contacting IBMLink.

If you don't have an estimate that's fine... but I figured it couldn't
hurt to ask.

Wayne

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 15:08:17 on 92/09/19 GMT (by CONC7L02 at DALVM41B)
Subject: Another PMHPO crash
Ref:     Append at 19:05:58 on 92/09/18 GMT (by PNWB016 at OS2CUST)

When there is a new release of PMHPO there will be one place where
this information can be found we will put something about it on
NEWS and INFORMATION. As for when the next release of PMHPO will
be released, stay tuned. You might see a maintenance release of
PMHPO sometime soon.
release sometime soon.
Joseph Mogavero

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 20:14:36 on 92/09/19 GMT (by PNWB016 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Another PMHPO crash
Ref: Append at 15:08:17 on 92/09/19 GMT (by CONC7L02 at DALVM41B)

Joseph: Thanks! I will be sure to keeps my eyes peeled (Makes for an
interesting mental picture doesn't it.) for the new release.

Wayne "Where do some of these saying come from anyway?" Holmes

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 22:40:50 on 92/09/19 GMT (by HNDERSON at AUSVM8)

Subject: IBM partication in the CFROUM
Ref:  Various appends by IBMer

I strongly recommend that all IBMer take time to READ THE HEADERS of
THIS AND ALL OTHER CFORUMs.

This Cforum and all other Cforums are for Customers to ask questions
offer views, suggestion, etc. TO other customers, and to IBMers.

They are NOT TO CONTAIN references to IBM Internal USE Only products.

They are not to reference IBM INTERNAL minidisk that are not available
to customers.

They are not to contain reference to unannounced products.
 __   __      ___      __  __   _   _
|  |_|  |    /   \    |  \|  | | |./ / Hank Henderson HNDERSON at AUSVM8
|   _   |   / _~_ \  Sincerely |  . < Staff OSS to OS/2 BBS (TEAMOS2)
|__| |__|  /_/   \_\  |__|\__| |_| \_\ Tie:8-793-8647  Austin, Texas
                                       LNK1SM7 @ IBMLINK - OS/2 BBS

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 16:40:25 on 92/09/20 GMT (by IL48722 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Exiting from OS2BBS

I'm curious...

I've found two ways to exit from the OS/2 BBS:

1.  Press PF3 repeatedly until I get back to IBMLink

                  or

2.  Set the "Level" menu item at the bottom of the screen to zero.

Number 2. gives me a "DISCONNECTED" message while number 1. does not.  Except
for this difference, are the two methods of exiting the OS2BBS equivalent?

That is to say, is there anything useful that happens if I take the "PF3" path
that does not happen if I take the "Level 0" path??

Thanks!

Bob Beilstein, Manugistics, Inc.  [phone]

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 18:37:31 on 92/09/20 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE86)
Subject: Exiting from OS2BBS
Ref: Append at 16:40:25 on 92/09/20 GMT (by IL48722 at OS2CUST)

Bob,
The only thing is that the PF3 gives you a chance to change your mind.

Jack Hiatt    MARC-Life   Atlanta  Ga.

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 15:30:29 on 92/09/21 GMT (by VA06582 at OS2CUST)
Subject: BBS profile settings

Since Thursday of last week, my settings for this BBS have been reset.

What causes this problem?
Is is being worked?

Bill Pier @ Hughes Aircraft  714/732-8753

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 16:23:33 on 92/09/21 GMT (by IL41468 at HONE83)
Subject: PMPHO Corrupted screen
Ref:

Joseph Moagvero:
I am using the 92/09/01 version of PMHPO download off this board. I have
only been using this since last Thursday. This morning while reviewing the
very large PS/2 announcement. I start getting piece of a prior screen in the
middle of a new screen. It appears that a block of a 100 or so characters
is completely skipped leaving a veiw back into the prior screen. This
occured often. Once the "hole" had characters that where random.

J. M. Schaeffer ("John"  AIMS Sandy, Utah)

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 17:10:45 on 92/09/21 GMT (by ERICM2 at SPPVM1)
Subject: BBS profile settings
Ref:     Append at 15:30:29 on 92/09/21 GMT (by VA06582 at OS2CUST)

Yes, this problem is known and being worked on. The problem is that the last
session was not saved when you logged off last.

This is also the problem with new items and registration form popping up.

Eric Merkel      IIN Special Projects           Tampa, FL

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 19:05:05 on 92/09/21 GMT (by CONC7L02 at DALVM41B)
Subject: PMPHO Corrupted screen
Ref:     Append at 16:23:33 on 92/09/21 GMT (by IL41468 at HONE83)

First did PMHPO crash after this problem?  Did the problem contuine
or did it go away? If you press the Escape key this should refresh
the screen. If this does not work append back, and I will see what
I can do.

Joseph Mogavero

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 21:35:49 on 92/09/21 GMT (by IL41468 at HONE81)
Subject: PMPHO Corrupted screen
Ref: Append at 19:05:05 on 92/09/21 GMT (by CONC7L02 at DALVM41B)

Joseph:
ESC  brought the screen. The problem is if this is occuring during the use
off an offline downloader of OS2BBS, data could be lost.

J. M. Schaeffer ("John"  AIMS Sandy, Utah)

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 19:46:32 on 92/09/22 GMT (by CONC7L02 at DALVM41B)
Subject: PMPHO Corrupted screen
Ref:     Append at 21:35:49 on 92/09/21 GMT (by IL41468 at HONE81)

Because of the way PMHPO works, a download does not go through the
same code as a screen. I would like to go onto more detail about
this but not have the time. Thanks

Joseph Mogavero

P.S. If the problem still persist, see if you can find a way to
repeat the problem constantly, append this information and I will
see what I can do.

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 00:41:18 on 92/09/23 GMT (by MDCL055 at OS2CUST)
Subject: FORBROWS Forum downloader & off-line mail reader

What is the projected availability of FORBROWS if any? An update would be
appreciated.

Steve Schiffman

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 08:59:45 on 92/09/23 GMT (by IL78711 at OS2CUST)
Subject: FORBROWS Forum downloader & off-line mail reader
Ref: Append at 00:41:18 on 92/09/23 GMT (by MDCL055 at OS2CUST)

I am also interested in when the new goodies will be available. On the FTN
broadcast, I got the impression that they were going to be available quite soon
.

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 13:58:11 on 92/09/23 GMT (by SLAUSON at WATSON)
Subject: FORBROWS Forum downloader & off-line mail reader
Ref:     Append at 00:41:18 on 92/09/23 GMT (by MDCL055 at OS2CUST)

The FORBROWS diskettes are being built and are supposed to start
shipping this week.  I would expect you'll see it in download-able form
on this BBS during the next few days.  Perhaps someone else on the
OS2BBS project can provide more specific info.

David Slauson
IBM T.J. Watson Research Center, Yorktown Heights, NY

From:  [e-mail]

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 22:37:24 on 92/09/23 GMT (by AABA0EM at OS2CUST)
Subject: Incongruity of Title and Contents, OS/2 News and Announcements

I would suggest that if there is a relationship between Bookmanager Build/2
and FDDI I don't understand it. What is going on here?

>>>>>>  OS/2 News and Announcements  <<<<<<

1.  BOOKMANAGER BUILD/2 FOR THE OS/2 ENVIRONMENT             09/23/92
Subject : FDDI Concepts and Facilities Seminar Schedules

Bob Holmes  Southern California Gas

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 12:14:58 on 92/09/24 GMT (by DENNIS at ATLVM1)
Subject: FORBROWS Forum downloader & off-line mail reader
Ref:     Append at 00:41:18 on 92/09/23 GMT (by MDCL055 at OS2CUST)

On the 8/27 FTN, I did promise that we would be shipping FORBROWS to
you within a few weeks. Well, we had a significant bug that we felt
needed to be fixed before making it available. That is fixed now and we
are anxious to get it to you so you can begin using it. We put it up on
the software library yesterday for anyone to download ( please read the
documentation files first ).

On Monday, we will ship diskettes out to customers with WZ ids to save
you the expense of downloading. In addition to the diskette with the
latest versions of PMHPO and FORBROWS, you will also find two diskettes
with all of the CFORUMs as of 9/18, which should help you get off to a
good start.

We would appreciate hearing from you about your impressions with the
package - and any problems you may experience. Please use the FORBROWS
CFORUM (you can only get to this through FROBROWS).

We hope this will not just satisfy, but delight you with a new way to
use the OS2BBS. Good Luck !!

Dennis Johnson     Atlanta, GA.

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 13:08:43 on 92/09/24 GMT (by SUN0012 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Make the inverse of LOADDSKF available to technical coordinators.

I have downloaded LOADDSKF and am eagerly awaiting OS/2 CSD's from this
BBS.  However I thought of distributing DOS 5.0 and PCOM3270 CSD's
to business line PC coordinators in our company bu use of this facility.
To do this I need to be able to build a diskette image.

If this facility is already present in OS/2 2.0 code please let me know
where it is.  Otherwise consider making the diskette image build
facility available to us as technical coordinators.

Thank you,

Jim Snively, Sun Companmy, Inc

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 16:19:12 on 92/09/24 GMT (by MDCL055 at OS2CUST)
Subject: FORBROWS Forum downloader & off-line mail reader
Ref: Append at 12:14:58 on 92/09/24 GMT (by DENNIS at ATLVM1)

Dennis Johnson:

I am glad to hear that the bug in FORBROWS has been fixed and is now being
made available to us. You say it was added to the Software Library yesterday,
(23Sep92), but I am unable to locate in any of the  software library
categories. Does somebody need to flip a bit to make the file visable to us
external customers?

Steve Schiffman

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 16:51:09 on 92/09/24 GMT (by SLAUSON at WATSON)
Subject: FORBROWS Forum downloader & off-line mail reader
Ref:     Append at 16:19:12 on 92/09/24 GMT (by MDCL055 at OS2CUST)

Actually, I should clarify.  The bug that held up the FORBROWS release
was not in FORBROWS, but in PMHPO.  On some machines, at certain modem
speeds, the originally released version of PMHPO would sometimes hang
during the download of fora files (a download that had been invoked by
FORBROWS).  The newer version of PMHPO seems to fix this problem.

If you download FORBROWS from the BBS, and use PMHPO, you should also
download the new PMHPO v1.1.  The diskettes that we are shipping will
contain the latest versions of both programs.

David Slauson
IBM T.J. Watson Research Center, Yorktown Heights, NY

From:  [e-mail]

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 17:15:54 on 92/09/24 GMT (by SLAUSON at WATSON)
Subject: FORBROWS Forum downloader & off-line mail reader
Ref:     Append at 16:51:09 on 92/09/24 GMT (by SLAUSON at WATSON)

Now that FORBROWS is being made available, I'd like to take this
opportunity to thank the beta testers; especially Wayne "If you can code
it, I can break it" Holmes, Jack Hiatt, and John Schaeffer... all of
whom provided valuable suggestions, testing, and feedback.  If the
software is not perfect, they are to blame (just kidding ;-).

There were aggravating problems at some stages of the beta-test, and
these folks were especially helpful in gathering information about
problems that we were not always able to reproduce on our machines, and
then testing and reporting back on attempted fixes.  FORBROWS, like any
software, is still imperfect, but we're hopeful that as a result of the
beta-testing, that most OS2BBS users will find it to be a useful tool.

David Slauson
IBM T.J. Watson Research Center, Yorktown Heights, NY

From:  [e-mail]

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 17:23:38 on 92/09/24 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)
Subject: Incongruity of Title and Contents, OS/2 News and Announcements
Ref: Append at 22:37:24 on 92/09/23 GMT (by AABA0EM at OS2CUST)

Bob, It seems to be Ok now.  I don't know if it was a typo that got fixed
or perhaps you just happened to catch it during an update and a pointer
was temporarily out of whack.

Brent Allen - IBM LAN Systems Integration Services    Southlake, TX

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 17:49:57 on 92/09/24 GMT (by IL54396 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Problem w/ PMHPO and 32-bit GRE

I am posting this here, even though it deals with the 32-bit GRE beta, because
I have only noticed it w/ PMHPO, and I was told to report all PMHPO problems
here.  When I bring up PMHPO (v1.1) when I am booted using the OS/2 2.0
beta with the 32-bit GRE, the text in the window is completely screwed up.
It looks like spaces are being compressed.  Also, I can't resize the PMHPO
window anymore and when I try to change the font using Options/Fonts...
nothing happens.  I have had to hook up my modem to another machine because
PMHPO is really unusable for me on the OS/2 2.0 beta machine now. (sigh)

Chris Breisch, Pritsker Corp.

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 18:16:00 on 92/09/24 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)
Subject: Problem w/ PMHPO and 32-bit GRE
Ref: Append at 17:49:57 on 92/09/24 GMT (by IL54396 at OS2CUST)

Thanks for the feedback.  The developers are aware of problems with
PMHPO and the Beta.  Actually, I think you've come up with some new ones
because in my early testing with the GRE, PMHPO wouldn't come up at all.
They're working on it now to try and resolve these problems before the GRE
is officially distributed.

Brent Allen - IBM LAN Systems Integration Services    Southlake, TX

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 18:25:36 on 92/09/24 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)
Subject: FORBROWS Forum downloader & off-line mail reader
Ref: Append at 16:19:12 on 92/09/24 GMT (by MDCL055 at OS2CUST)

My fault.  I didn't quite get everything done to make it available yesterday
but it is out there now.  Sorry for the confusion....

Brent Allen - IBM LAN Systems Integration Services    Southlake, TX

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 18:28:04 on 92/09/24 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)
Subject: FORBROWS Forum downloader & off-line mail reader
Ref: Append at 16:51:09 on 92/09/24 GMT (by SLAUSON at WATSON)

I'll clarify David's clarification <g>:

PMHPO 1.1a contains the fix he refers to.

Brent Allen - IBM LAN Systems Integration Services    Southlake, TX

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 18:29:55 on 92/09/24 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)
Subject: Make the inverse of LOADDSKF available to technical coordinators.
Ref: Append at 13:08:43 on 92/09/24 GMT (by SUN0012 at OS2CUST)

I don't know the reasons why, but the LOADDSKF complement to create disk
images has not been released for external distribution.

Brent Allen - IBM LAN Systems Integration Services    Southlake, TX

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 20:02:35 on 92/09/24 GMT (by SUN0012 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Make the inverse of LOADDSKF available to technical coordinators.
Ref: Append at 18:29:55 on 92/09/24 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)

Brent,

Can you ask the "powers that be" to do so?

Thanks,

Jim Snively, Sun Companmy, Inc

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 21:04:57 on 92/09/24 GMT (by 64913682 at TOROHON1)
Subject: Make the inverse of LOADDSKF available to technical coordinators.
Ref:     Append at 18:29:55 on 92/09/24 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)

Maybe a candidate for OS2EWS?

Jim Elliott  [e-mail]

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 22:56:07 on 92/09/24 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)
Subject: Make the inverse of LOADDSKF available to technical coordinators.
Ref: Append at 20:02:35 on 92/09/24 GMT (by SUN0012 at OS2CUST)

You know the joke "Well, you can ask.....". <g>

Seriously, I've already sent a note to the coordinator who arranged for
LOADDSKF to become available to check on the status of the code. Maybe things
have changed since I last spoke to him.

Brent Allen - IBM LAN Systems Integration Services    Southlake, TX

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 00:37:30 on 92/09/25 GMT (by IL78568 at OS2CUST)
Subject: PMHPO, OS2BBS, IBMLink

Since IBMLink has been so (can't think of a proper adjective) this week,
I've only just started using PMHPO from home.  At work I use CM running
through some corporate link to IIN.

My biggest complaint so far is the inability to remap [Enter] to the
[Enter] key and the right [Ctrl] key to something else ([NewLn], ??).
I have remapped the keys under CM, all my PC software uses the [Enter] key,
and I haven't used a real 3270 in years.  Why isn't this configurable?

Some of the new changes on IBMLink look good, some look "interesting",
and the jury is out on a lot until I know what is being caused by
instabilities being experienced in IBMLink.

BUT, I commented a couple of months ago about another pet peeve concerning
the use of PF10 and PF11 to go forward and backwards through a "browse set"
on IBMLink, and using PF9 and PF10 for a similar function on OS2BBS (it's
actually worse, since you usually start at the front and go forward in IBMLink
and start at the end and go backwards on OS2BBS).

I was even in some application today on IBMLink (I think it was
PRESSRELEASES or something) where they used PF4 and PF5 for similar function!!!

I had been under the impression that these "anomalies" were being fixed
in the new IBMLink software.

Can anyone say when these usage "problems" will be fixed (made consistent)?

Failing that, can anyone logically explain why these seemingly similar
functions are really different and consequently deserve different usages
under CUA 1984 or whatever?

Brooks McNeely - Martin Marietta Energy Systems, Inc.

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 00:53:14 on 92/09/25 GMT (by IL22590 at OS2CUST)
Subject: PMHPO 1.1 & 32bit GRE - WIN3.1

FWIW, I loaded the Win3.1 beta last night, downloaded the new FORABROWS
offline reader, while I was at work today.  Tonight I loaded the offline
reader on my home machine, then I reloaded PMHPO 1.1 already to give it
all a try...  I'm entering this message while dialed into our AS/400 and
from the AS/400 I dialed into IBMLink to reach this BBS.  The PMHPO will
not load under the Win3.1 beta!  I looked in the PMHPO.LOG file which is
as follows:  HPOTQ0545F DosRequestMutexSem error 6 in task -15

H E L P !

If you need PMHPO don't load the beta!

 Has anyone else ran into this.. or better yet, does anyone have a fix
for this??

David Eller
Sherrill Furniture Co.
[phone] Ext 312

How are you going to do it?  OS/2 it!

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 01:48:19 on 92/09/25 GMT (by IL22590 at OS2CUST)
Subject: PMHPO 1.1 & 32bit GRE - WIN3.1
Ref: Append at 00:53:14 on 92/09/25 GMT (by IL22590 at OS2CUST)

late breaking report !
I had reported PMHPO failure with PMHPO
under the Winos23.1 beta.  Well under the
beta load (without 3.1) it would fail.
Later I loaded win3.1 and noticed that a new
kernal was loaded.  I then retried PMHPO and it
will now start.  BUT, the font is in a real
bad way.  Letters are double sized and
look real weird!.  I can only see about
20 char on each line.  The message might be
messed up because of this.

Back to testing...

David Eller
Sherrill Furniture Co.

How are you going to do it?  OS/2 it!

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 02:15:45 on 92/09/25 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE85)
Subject: PMHPO 1.1 & 32bit GRE - WIN3.1
Ref: Append at 01:48:19 on 92/09/25 GMT (by IL22590 at OS2CUST)

David,
This problem has been reported.  Think it was either earlier here or over in
the new FORBROWS forum.  Wish we had had the 32bit to beta the PMHPO &
FORBROWS with.

Jack Hiatt  Marc Life  Atlanta Ga.

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 03:03:02 on 92/09/25 GMT (by CONC7L02 at DALVM41B)
Subject: PMHPO 1.1 & 32bit GRE - WIN3.1
Ref:     Append at 02:15:45 on 92/09/25 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE85)

For those of you using the 32GRE, I can tell you what is happen
PMHPO is trying to get the SYSTEM MONOSPACED fonts and get the
SYSTEM PROPORTIONAL font this could be beta problem. We are
working on this. As was said early in this forum if you need
PMHPO, DO NOT USE THE 32GRE BETA!

Joseph Mogavero

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 06:43:21 on 92/09/25 GMT (by IL41468 at HONE81)
Subject: PMHPO, OS2BBS, IBMLink
Ref: Append at 00:37:30 on 92/09/25 GMT (by IL78568 at OS2CUST)

Brooks:
I haven't use CM yet, but I can say one thing PMHPO is vanilla. It is simple
and stright to the point and sure beats running in a VDM. In other words it
accomplishes exactly what is was advertised to do. Also the last time I
checked PMHPO was $0 and CM was $595.

As far as IBMLINK's "is it PF11, PF10, or PF05" confusion, from what I can
tell OS2BBS is closest to CUA. Call the IBMLINK people and let then know
(they have no bbs you can get to them on that I know of)

J. M. Schaeffer ("John"  AIMS Sandy, Utah)

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 11:27:56 on 92/09/25 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE86)
Subject: PMHPO, OS2BBS, IBMLink
Ref: Append at 06:43:21 on 92/09/25 GMT (by IL41468 at HONE81)

There is a way to tell IBMLINK what you don't like or do like for that matter
about their system.  It is called feedback and can be entered from the
command line at anytime. Try it.

Jack Hiatt  Marc Life  Atlanta Ga.

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 13:50:15 on 92/09/25 GMT (by AAEE1AN at OS2CUST)
Subject: PMHPO, OS2BBS, IBMLink
Ref: Append at 06:43:21 on 92/09/25 GMT (by IL41468 at HONE81)

I have already raised the human-factors issue (on this forum, I think, but
maybe on OS2MISC), and have been given what sounds like the good old
brushoff. More pie in the sky; don't call us, we will call you, etc.

Now we have the IENEWS (or whatever) application, and a WHOLE NEW SET
of PFKs to remember.

If this is an improvement, then next time I go hunting, I'll shoot pigs
out of the air.

If IBM is one company, then it needs to act like one company,
                                     to present one image to customers
                                     (even in such "little things" as PFKs),
                                 and to get its act somewhat more together.

Mike Andrews, Mgr, Tech support, Okla. Dept. of Transportation [phone]

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 17:35:05 on 92/09/25 GMT (by IL22590 at OS2CUST)
Subject: PMHPO 1.1 & 32bit GRE - WIN3.1
Ref: Append at 02:15:45 on 92/09/25 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE85)

Jack,

I went back and read the forum _after_ installing the beta :(
Well, just my luck <g>.  I still have GA+ on my system at work and
downloaded a few forums just to test the waters with Forbrows.
It looks really slick!  Now if I can just get things working again
at home (where my high speed modem lives) I'll be all set.

I guess I could load Comm Manager at home so as to still use Forbrows,
sort of over kill for a async comm program, but what ever works.

David Eller
Sherrill Furniture

How are you going to do it?  OS/2 it!

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 18:44:13 on 92/09/25 GMT (by ERICM2 at SPPVM1)
Subject: PMHPO, OS2BBS, IBMLink
Ref:     Append at 13:50:15 on 92/09/25 GMT (by AAEE1AN at OS2CUST)

Brooks and Mike,

 The main causes behind the problem of the usage of PF keys is the design team
who created the applications. Since all of the applications that you mentioned
are from different groups in IBM, the PF key usage is different as well. There
is consistency in each groups applications, but when you get to IBMLINK, which
can access many different applications, you get conflicting results.

This is not to say that this is correct, but just an explanation of what
happened. Also, the current CUA definitions of PF keys, do not specify an
ITEM FORWARD, or FORWARD key. It is up to the development group of the
application.

Certainly here at IBM there needs to be a consistency across applications, and
hearing you concern here is helping to coordinate these groups in future
development. Thanks for you input, and it is well noted.

Eric Merkel      SHOW Development               Tampa, FL

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 20:49:35 on 92/09/25 GMT (by SUN0012 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Make the inverse of LOADDSKF available to technical coordinators.
Ref: Append at 21:04:57 on 92/09/24 GMT (by 64913682 at TOROHON1)

I am not familiar with OS2EWS.  Please explain.

Jim Snively, Sun Companmy, Inc

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 21:30:30 on 92/09/25 GMT (by MDCL055 at OS2CUST)
Subject: FORBROWS

Thanks for making FORBROWS available. I have downloaded and installed it, but
am having difficulties getting FORBROWS to communicate with the host to do the
initial fora conference list download. I have tried two different computers/
configurations. Both result in the same 'RC=79 from RECEIVE' error message. The
configurations are: 1. IBM mod 70 with OS/2 1.3 (no CSDs applied), CommMgr 1.3,
FORBROWS 3.70, 3270 connection to our VTAM network with leased line link to
IIN; 2. 486 clone with OS/2 2.0 GA, PMHPO v1.1a using 9600 dial-up to IIN. I
log into IIN as MDCL055 and select IBMLink.
@
Normally I access the OS2BBS by keying in OS2BBS on the IBMLink Main Menu.
Messages about the OS2BBS being initializing would appear and then the OS2BBS
Main Menu would appear. Exiting OS2BBS requires either F3 or level 0 entry and
returns me to the IBMLink Main Menu.
@
The FORBROWS help says to be on the IBMLink Main Menu. This means to me that I
am not yet connected/logged into the OS2BBS. Is FORBROWS supposed to connect/
log me into the OS2BBS? What I get after selecting the Conference popup from
the FORBROWS window, then selecting Download fora or files from host, getting
the FORADOWN window, chosing the correct 3270 session (i.e. A for PMHPO, D for
CommMgr), then pushing List Button, results in error message 'RC=79 from
RECEIVE; C:\APPL\FORBROWS\APPENDS\POSTED\LASTAPPD.NOW'. Is this the correct
procedure for getting the initial conference selection list?
@
When I manually connect/logon to the OS2BBS and am at the BBS Main Menu,
selecting the List push button as described above, results in the error message
'Unable to connect to proper host screen; possible 3270 or comm error. If
using IBMLink, ensure that the host session is on the IBMLink Main Menu before
trying.'. This is followed by error message 'RC=89 from RECEIVE'.
@
What important piece of information did I miss in the READ.ME instructions that
will get the communication connection working? What am I doing wrong?
@
Thanks for any help any one can provide.

Steve Schiffman

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 21:44:48 on 92/09/25 GMT (by PNWB016 at OS2CUST)
Subject: FORBROWS
Ref: Append at 21:30:30 on 92/09/25 GMT (by MDCL055 at OS2CUST)

Steve: Out of curiosity, are you able to a RECEIVE of a file when you in
IBMLink? The reason I ask is that you MAY have an incorrect logmode
specified on the host side. (We had lots of problems like this when we
first installed programmable workstations.)  The specific thing to check
for is to make sure that the default logmode for the 3270 session you are
using has the "queryable" bit turned on.

If you don't know this information, then (hopefully) your Network help
desk should be able to get you in contact with someone who could.

BTW... you DO want to be at the IBMLink Main menu when running FORBROWS.
(This confused me at first too.) FORBROWS does some "magic" stuff on the
host side to setup the file transfer... so there is no need for it to
get into the OS2BBS we all know and love.

Wayne "FORBROWS user" Holmes

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 21:52:51 on 92/09/25 GMT (by CONC7L02 at DALVM41B)
Subject: FORBROWS
Ref:     Append at 21:30:30 on 92/09/25 GMT (by MDCL055 at OS2CUST)

You need to be at the IBMLINK main menu for FORBROWS to work.
You goto the 'Conference' menu,then goto 'Download fora or
file form host...'. When Foradown comes up hit the 'LIST'
button and if your at the IBMLINK main menu then it should
download a list of forums. You chose witch forum you want
and download it.

Joseph Mogavero

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 23:01:25 on 92/09/25 GMT (by MDCL055 at OS2CUST)
Subject: FORBROWS
Ref: Append at 21:52:51 on 92/09/25 GMT (by CONC7L02 at DALVM41B)

I am doing exactly what you say to do. The result is 'RC=79 from RECEIVE'.
What does this mean? I am able download/RECEIVE the forums/tools files when
I manually logon on to the OS2BBS with no problems.

Steve Schiffman

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 23:04:38 on 92/09/25 GMT (by MDCL055 at OS2CUST)
Subject: FORBROWS
Ref: Append at 21:44:48 on 92/09/25 GMT (by PNWB016 at OS2CUST)

Wayne,

I will have our network group checkout my logmode entry. I am able to download
all forums/tools files when I logon on the BBS manually. Also no problem when
downloading info from other IBMLink applications. Any other suggestions?

Steve Schiffman

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 03:01:52 on 92/09/26 GMT (by HOPKINS at AUSVM8)
Subject: OS2EWS / OS2CWS discussion
Ref:     Append at 20:49:35 on 92/09/25 GMT (by SUN0012 at OS2CUST)

OS2EWS is OS2 Employee Written Software. This is software developed by
IBMers on their own time and equipment that they share with each
other. We are currently negotiating a release mechanism for this type
of product, and will be updating News and Announcements shortly
with the feasibility of Public Domain Software on this BBS.
The 'inverse' is also true; there are many folks who would like to
submit their OS2CWS (OS2 Customer Written Software) to the OS2
community. We are addressing this possibility also.
Please add comments/ideas for 'how I'd like OS2CWS to work' if
interested.

Ken Hopkins, OS/2 Software Service and Support

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 18:18:35 on 92/09/27 GMT (by ABLI001 at OS2CUST)
Subject: Subject line

Have the SYSOP(s) noticed that the subject line in replies may be
generated incorrectly; and there is no way to override it?
Specifically, it seems to pick up the subject from the first entry on
the prior screen, rather than from the message that is being replied to.

->Rich Corbett; ABC Liquors, Inc., Orlando, FL              (NASPA: CORBRIC7)

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 14:39:40 on 92/09/28 GMT (by PNWB016 at HONE83)
Subject: FORBROWS
Ref: Append at 23:04:38 on 92/09/25 GMT (by MDCL055 at OS2CUST)

Steve: Sorry, I don't have any more ideas. I had been burned by
a LOGMODE problem a while back, so offered the suggestion.

Wayne "Out of ideas" Holmes
U S WEST Communications

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 20:06:08 on 92/09/28 GMT (by PWIS110 at OS2CUST)
Subject: NEW MULTIMEDIA TOPIC

MultiMedia is hot. There is much to discuss in hardware, applications
and external peripherals that is unique to this field.  Why not start
a MultiMedia Topic.

K2 MONICO

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 23:11:50 on 92/09/28 GMT (by WZ00634 at OS2CUST)
Subject: How Do I get PMHPO?

I have the original version of PMHPO sent out when I signed up for
OS2BBS.  I never received an update.  I can't download the new
version, since PMHPO 1.0 doesn't support downloading.  What can I do?

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 23:48:34 on 92/09/28 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE81)
Subject: How Do I get PMHPO?
Ref: Append at 23:11:50 on 92/09/28 GMT (by WZ00634 at OS2CUST)

According to the post announcing the new verison and FORBROWS you should
receive a copy of the update in the mail.

Jack Hiatt  Marc Life  Atlanta Ga.

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 11:15:42 on 92/09/29 GMT (by DENNIS at ATLVM1)
Subject: How Do I get PMHPO?
Ref:     Append at 23:11:50 on 92/09/28 GMT (by WZ00634 at OS2CUST)

The diskettes will go out in the mail today, Tuesday the 29th to all WZ
id's. A small glitch caused a two day delay.

Dennis Johnson     Atlanta, GA.

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 18:15:06 on 92/09/29 GMT (by KENIN at MARTLINK)
Subject: PS2 Asst

I noticed the NSC BBS has rev 60 of the PS2 asst.  You only have 59.  When will
you get 60?

Ken Wohlferd - Fortis

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 18:46:38 on 92/09/29 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)
Subject: Make the inverse of LOADDSKF available to technical coordinators.
Ref: Append at 20:49:35 on 92/09/25 GMT (by SUN0012 at OS2CUST)

OS2EWS stands for OS/2 Employee Written Software.  These are tools and programs
written by individual IBM'ers that they have made available to customers on
an As-Is basis.  Many of the tools you'll find in the OS/2 Tools section of the
Software Library are from the EWS program (Ex: Text-to-PS, PMFTerm, PMGLobe).

Brent Allen - IBM LAN Systems Integration Services   Southlake, TX

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 23:03:57 on 92/09/29 GMT (by X013813 at OS2CUST)
Subject: NON OS/2 CSD's

I know this is an OS/2 BBS, but is there any possibility of having CSD's for
non OS/2 software (DOS 5.0, etc) put up for downloading?.

Thanks,
  Mitch

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 00:15:41 on 92/09/30 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)
Subject: PS2 Asst
Ref: Append at 18:15:06 on 92/09/29 GMT (by KENIN at MARTLINK)

I'm checking to see what caused the delay, but I now have the file and will
have it on the BBS shortly.....

Brent Allen - IBM LAN Systems Integration Services Southlake, TX

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 01:08:35 on 92/09/30 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B)
Subject: PMHPO for GRE

PMHPO version 1.1b is now available for download.  This version contains a fix
to enable it to run under the OS/2 2.0 32-bit Graphics Engine / WINOS2 3.1 beta
code.

Brent Allen - IBM LAN Systems Integration Services   Southlake, TX

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 02:00:45 on 92/09/30 GMT (by HNDERSON at AUSVM8)
Subject: PS2 Asst
Ref:     Append at 18:15:06 on 92/09/29 GMT (by KENIN at MARTLINK)
Ken, PS2ASST 60th edition is on the BBS as of 09/29/92 ...
The source of this package resides in Atlanta, therefore they had a
slight lead on us.  We are sorry if we inconvenience any one.

 __   __      ___      __  __   _   _
|  |_|  |    /   \    |  \|  | | |./ / Hank Henderson HNDERSON at AUSVM8
|   _   |   / _~_ \  Sincerely |  . < Staff OSS to OS/2 BBS (TEAMOS2)
|__| |__|  /_/   \_\  |__|\__| |_| \_\ Tie:8-793-8647  Austin, Texas
                                       LNK1SM7 @ IBMLINK - OS/2 BBS

----- OS2BBS CFORUM appended at 02:45:43 on 92/09/30 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE84)
Subject: PS2 Asst
Ref: Append at 02:00:45 on 92/09/30 GMT (by HNDERSON at AUSVM8)

Hank,
What's happening to the BBS tonight everytime I try to access it I get a msg
about unknown error on the BBS system, but apparently can still post thru
FORBROWS and receive new appends.  WOuld like to have gotten a couple of file
tongiht though.

Jack Hiatt  Marc Life  Atlanta Ga.