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This forum is supplied for demonstration purposes only and is accessible via the IBM OS/2 BBS system. What you see below is the forum as it existed on 10/30/92. The IBM OS/2 Bulletin Board System (BBS) is IBM's new electronic support offering for OS/2 Version 2.0. With OS/2 BBS you can electronically review OS/2 technical information, submit program defects to IBM, and receive information on how to solve problems. Users of the OS/2 BBS not only include OS/2 customers, but the OS/2 expertise of the entire internal IBM community worldwide. OS2BBS makes all this available via a local or toll free number in most major cities. To request a complete OS/2 BBS Information Package detailing the OS/2 BBS offering and including pricing and registration/access information, please call: 1-800-547-1283. ===== OS2BASE CFORUM created at 01:47:38 on 92/04/08 GMT (by HOPKINS at AUSVM8) IBM UNCLASSIFIED ---------------- The information in this forum is considered by IBM to be external and may be shared by everyone who is given access. This forum is shared with the internal IBM employee conferences. Forum: OS2BASE CFORUM Forum subject: OS/2 Base Operating System Commands and Functions This FORUM is provided as a conferencing tool to promote discussion of the OS/2 Base Operating System and present any issues, questions, or problems related to OS/2 System commands and functions. This includes all system functions that may be accessed by programs executing under OS/2 . Contributions must not contain confidential or proprietary information. Each contributor agrees, in placing material in this forum, that IBM and other users are free to prepare derivative works based upon it, and to use, reproduce, perform, display and distribute inside and outside their company such material and such derivative works, without obligation or charge. IBM is not responsible or liable for the use, copying, or distribution of materials placed on this forum, and has therefore no obligation to control such acts. All subscribers are required to abide at all times by the conference rules described in the Bulletin Board Rules under "News and Announcements". All IBM personnel are required to abide at all times by the IBMPC RULES and the IBM Business Conduct Guidelines. IBM personnel will read the CUSTOMER FORUM RULES in IBMPC RULES before contributing. Contributions violating these rules will be deleted by the CFORUM Owner or their delegate, and in some cases by an IBM conference Administrator. The OS2BBS CFORUM is where anyone may raise concerns regarding rules violations found in this and other CFORUMS. The IBM Owner of this forum is: Name: Kenneth M. Hopkins, OS/2 Support Services Mailing Address: IBM Manufacturing and Development 11400 Burnet Road Internal Zip 2900-042/1D003 Austin, Texas 78758 IBM Node/Userid: AUSVM8/HOPKINS ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 19:07:37 on 92/04/24 GMT (by XXCOOP39 at TORVMCOP) Subject:minimize to desktop I'd like to be able to place my 3270 emulation icons on to the desktop. Currently they are always in the minimized window viewer. OS/2 won't let me drag the icons on to the desktop. Can someone tell me how to do this? Kevin Engel Co-operators Data Service Ltd. ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 20:35:15 on 92/04/24 GMT (by WEEKS at AUSVM2) Subject: minimize to desktop Ref: Append at 19:07:37 on 92/04/24 GMT (by XXCOOP39 at TORVMCOP) Click mouse button 2 on an empty spot on the desk top. Click on the arrow by "Open" and open the settings notebook. Go to the "Window" tab and select "Minimize window to desktop". Now double click mouse button 1 on the OS/2 System icon on the desktop. Open the System Setup folder and then the System folder. Go to the "Window" tab in the System notebook and select "Minimize window to desktop". This should do it. Craig Weeks OS/2 Application Development Center Austin, Texas ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 20:42:59 on 92/04/24 GMT (by BC at KGNVMZ) --- Subject: minimize to desktop Ref: Append at 20:35:15 on 92/04/24 GMT (by WEEKS at AUSVM2) What if I wanted to do it only for the 3270 sessions, though? I want everything else hidden, but I want the 3270 sessions minimized to the desktop. Is there any way to do that? Bob Cronin ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 21:05:59 on 92/04/24 GMT (by WEEKS at AUSVM2) Subject: minimize to desktop Ref: Append at 20:42:59 on 92/04/24 GMT (by BC at KGNVMZ) I can't say for sure but since the 3270 sessions do not have their own notebook controls it is my assumption (and I was a developer for 3270 from 1.0 through 1.2) that the SYSTEM determines the appropriate action for the emulator windows. Maybe you should ask around over in OS2CM. That's probably a better place for this topic. Craig Weeks OS/2 Application Development Center Austin, Texas ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 14:53:08 on 92/04/27 GMT (by XXROYT05 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Where's the Lan Requester I received my GA copy of OS/2 2.0 last week, and within an hour I had it installed on our test system. I immediately began looking for the network icon, only to find that it was nowhere to be found. A quick call to IBM support revealed that the Lan Requester diskettes are not included with the base code....you must buy Lan Server 2.0 to get the diskettes. To my way of thinking this is simply ridiculous! Why should I be forced to buy Lan Server 2.0, in order to connect a OS/2 2.0 workstation to a Lan Server 1.3.1 server? Although, we will consider upgrading our servers to the new version (when it becomes available), this should NOT be forced upon us...! Ralf Mibus Royal Trust - Human Resources ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 19:05:33 on 92/04/27 GMT (by CNADLER at WMAVM1) Subject: Where's the Lan Requester Ref: Append at 14:53:08 on 92/04/27 GMT (by XXROYT05 at TORVMCOP) Since you already have the 1.3.1 server, you should be eligible for an upgrade (I don't know Canada's policy for EE and server upgrades). This will give you the requester connectivity that you wish ( I have several 2.0 requesters logged onto a 1.3 server). The reason why an upgrade is necessary is because of the internals of the LAN requester code and it's coexistence with the base OS. There were changes made which disallow a 1.3 requester to run on a 2.0 base. Cliff Nadler Federal Sector Services Rockville, MD IBM Federal Systems Company PROFS: NADLER at WMAVM7 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 20:00:30 on 92/04/27 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Where's the Lan Requester Ref: Append at 14:53:08 on 92/04/27 GMT (by XXROYT05 at TORVMCOP) As far as I knew , you get a free (or 1$) upgrade in Canada from 1.3 server to 2.0 server (entry AND advanced) . you have to specify the current number of connections NOW (DOS+WIN+OS/2) and the same amount of requester licences are GRANTED to you. Geza Szivos NOVA Corporation of Alberta 403-290-6583 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 12:25:24 on 92/04/28 GMT (by PERSHNG at YKTVMH3) Subject: minimize to desktop Ref: Append at 20:42:59 on 92/04/24 GMT (by BC at KGNVMZ) I don't believe that it can be done. Either you have *all* of your minimized icons on the desktop, or you have *none* of them there. ...however, if you find some way to get just the 3270 icons on the desktop, please pass the trick on to me. John A. Pershing Jr. ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 13:03:01 on 92/04/28 GMT (by WEEKS at AUSVM2) ..... OS2BASE CFORUM modified at 13:26:31 on 92/04/28 GMT (by WEEKS at AUSVM2) Subject: minimize to desktop Ref: Append at 12:25:24 on 92/04/28 GMT (by PERSHNG at YKTVMH3) One minor correction. Those applications which support the notebook control for settings can be minimized to the desktop or the minimized window viewer on an application by application basis. In other words, you can have PM Chart in the viewer and OS/2 Window Commmand Prompts on the desktop. The problem with 3270 windows is that this application does not support notebook controls so (I assume) it either takes its cue from the System setting for minimized windows or always minimizes to the desktop like it did in OS/2 EE 1.3. | Also, the TOGGLE application that is shipped on the ES diskettes | might be useful for you. You could use it to specify keystroke | combinations that give the focus to 3270 sessions from any place | the desktop. Minimize them to the viewer to relieve desktop clutter | but still have quick access to them. Craig Weeks OS/2 Application Development Center Austin, Texas ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 14:50:59 on 92/04/28 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: minimize to desktop Ref: Append at 12:25:24 on 92/04/28 GMT (by PERSHNG at YKTVMH3) It can be done. Fire up the CM and select the options for the size, fonts, and screen locations. You can move the minimized icon from the desktop to the Min Win Viewer manually (just open the Min Win V first). When everithing is right ( for me A and B is visible with different fonts, C D Print hidden in Viewer) just shut down the whole system, and it is saved. Geza Szivos ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 15:21:57 on 92/04/28 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: minimize to desktop Ref: Append at 14:50:59 on 92/04/28 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) The previus method WAS worked on the GA base + 304E ES. it does not work on GA+GA ES. My mistake. Geza Szivos ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 12:07:57 on 92/05/07 GMT (by DALNK03 at OS2CUST) Subject: Chkdsk on HPFS One of the lines returned from a CHKDSK on an HPFS disk is xxxx bytes reserved for system use. Could someone please explain what that is. We have two fileservers, one returns about 80K reserved, the other 3000K. The type of file system for the disk is HPFS. The HPFS file system program has been started. CHKDSK is searching for lost data. CHKDSK has searched 100% of the disk. 35824 kilobytes total disk space. 62 kilobytes are in 46 directories. 32038 kilobytes are in 939 user files. 49 kilobytes are in extended attributes. ???? ====> 1145 kilobytes are reserved for system use. <=== ???? 2530 kilobytes are available for use. We're curious as to why there is such a big difference. Thanks. Pat Malneritch, Delta Air Lines ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 13:03:50 on 92/05/07 GMT (by STIRLING at WINVMB) Subject: Chkdsk on HPFS Ref: Append at 12:07:57 on 92/05/07 GMT (by DALNK03 at OS2CUST) I am by no means an expert on the HPFS file system, but I believe that it reserves area of the disk for its "nodes" which are like its FAT entries. The larger the disk, then the more space it needs to reserve. You do not say in your append, but is the disk which reserves 3Mb much larger than the one which reserves 80Kb. Cheers, Ian Stirling ian@vnet.ibm.com IBM UK Laboratories Ltd ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 13:42:50 on 92/05/07 GMT (by HARGRAVE at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Chkdsk on HPFS Ref: Append at 12:07:57 on 92/05/07 GMT (by DALNK03 at OS2CUST) The reserved count includes all sectors used by HPFS for managing the volume which aren't available for use to contain directories, files or EAs. This includes free space bitmaps, hotfix sectors, spare dirblks, etc. It is roughly a certain percentage of the volume size. BJ Hargrave ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 14:35:27 on 92/05/07 GMT (by SHERIDAN at TOROLAB6) Subject: Chkdsk on HPFS Ref: Append at 12:07:57 on 92/05/07 GMT (by DALNK03 at OS2CUST) That's probably the Extended Attributes. HPFS uses them more than FAT does (I think). James R. Sheridan SHERIDAN @ TOROLAB6 AD/Cycle CODE Development sheridan@torolab6.vnet.ibm.com IBM Canada - Toronto Lab 7 May 1992 ( at 10:34:54 AM EDT ) ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 21:13:05 on 92/05/07 GMT (by TSO09 at OS2CUST) Subject: minimize to desktop Ref: Append at 13:03:01 on 92/04/28 GMT (by WEEKS at AUSVM2) You memtioned a TOGGEL application shipping with ES. I have ES installed (Electronic Downlowd, only no manuals) but cannot find any doc file or readme referenceing it. Since you already spilled the beans about it existance any hints on where the documentation is? ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 11:06:05 on 92/05/08 GMT (by 64942161 at TOROHON1) Subject: minimize to desktop Ref: Append at 21:13:05 on 92/05/07 GMT (by TSO09 at OS2CUST) Take a look on Diskette #1 of the Extended Services. You should see quite a few Applets (including Toggle) with an file extension of ZIP. Use the PKUNZIP2 command to decompress these files. Richard Polisuk, IBM Canada Limited ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 14:53:55 on 92/05/08 GMT (by DALNK03 at OS2CUST) Subject: Chkdsk on HPFS My mistake for not being clearer. We have a model 95 with a 360 Meg HD. It's showing 2048K reserved for system use. We also have a model 70 with a 160 Meg HD. It's showing 38789K reserved for system use. Both were configured identically as Fileservers. Thanks for your suggestions. ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 15:41:37 on 92/05/11 GMT (by IL78568 at OS2CUST) Subject: Error: 9051, CPS: Extent not found I have just started getting this error (at some location): 65535, 9051 CPS: Extent not found 048600b4 The error requires a reboot, and is reproducible. Are these errors documented somewhere? Does anyone know what the error means? Happens on a PS/2 8595-0JF, 24Mb, OS/2 2.0 GA attempting to print from a DOS application. Thanks in advance for any information. Brooks McNeely ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 12:15:37 on 92/05/12 GMT (by PSC30 at OS2CUST) Subject: 1.3 Mouse DD fails under 2.0 I wrote a "mouse" replacement device driver under 1.3 to support an "absolute position" device (graphics drawing pad). This DD worked fine under 1.3 but does not work under 2.0. It loads in CONFIG.SYS without error but afterwards there is NO cursor/arrow on the screen and no response whenever I press any "mouse" key. All documentation I have indicates that 1.3 device drivers work under 2.0. However, the means of installing a mouse replacement had changed so I assume the mouse internal interfaces have also. Can you direct me to the correct DOCS for upgrading my 1.3 drivers???? Are 32-bit drivers required? Or at least 32-bit mice???? ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 12:51:30 on 92/05/12 GMT (by HARGRAVE at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Error: 9051, CPS: Extent not found Ref: Append at 15:41:37 on 92/05/11 GMT (by IL78568 at OS2CUST) Contact OS/2 Support at 1-800-237-5511 and report this problem. It is an HPFS problem. BJ Hargrave ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 13:36:48 on 92/05/12 GMT (by KIKO at TOROLAB2) Subject: 1.3 Mouse DD fails under 2.0 Ref: Append at 12:15:37 on 92/05/12 GMT (by PSC30 at OS2CUST) The specs on the mouse drivers changed slightly between 1.3 and 2.0 so that in the future mice with up to 5 buttons could be used. From the Physical Device driver reference,the Mouse activity status in BX of the mouse IDC returns the following in v2.0 Bits 15-11 Reserved = 0 Bit 10 Button 5 Usage, Without motion Bit 9 Button 5 Usage, With motion Bit 8 Button 4 Usage, Without motion Bit 7 Button 4 Usage, With motion Bit 6 Button 3 Usage, Without motion Bit 5 Button 3 Usage, With motion Bit 4 Button 2 Usage, Without motion Bit 3 Button 2 Usage, With motion Bit 2 Button 1 Usage, Without motion Bit 1 Button 1 Usage, With motion Bit 0 Pure motion was recorded. This is the same as the event in the Process Absolute. In 1.3, pure mouse motion used to be 00h and in 2.0 pure motion is 01h, and so on. Hope this helps. Kiko, Toronto Lab ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 12:05:27 on 92/05/13 GMT (by PSC30 at OS2CUST) Subject: 1.3 mouse DD fails under 2.0 Kiko, I KNEW it changed. I just couldn't tell HOW.. Now:: I don't even get a POINTER of any kind to appear on the screen when my mouse driver loads. I don't think that has anything to do with reporting the wrong button presses.. Or does it?? Any suggestions about getting a pointer image???? ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 14:40:07 on 92/05/14 GMT (by KIKO at TOROLAB2) Subject: 1.3 mouse DD fails under 2.0 Ref: Append at 12:05:27 on 92/05/13 GMT (by PSC30 at OS2CUST) Actually it does. In OS/2 2.0 the mouse driver NEEDS a mouse motion in order to know that the pointer should be shown. OS/2 1.3 didn't. All button press/release events should show mouse motion also. Kiko ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 18:59:41 on 92/05/18 GMT (by TBHIC at OS2CUST) Subject: SETLOCAL/ENDLOCAL Functionality When using setlocal and endlocal in a .cmd file, Only the values for the current directory in the current drive are saved and restored. So, if you change the directory on a drive that is not current, no restoration takes place. I.e. if you are at the root when the setlocal is issued, you change the current directory, you are not restored to the root after the endlocal command is issued. I consider this to be a problem. This does not work as documented. I PMR' ed this earlier but development's response was that 'it works the same as 1.3'. Then 1.3 is in error also. This needs to be changed. ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 16:18:43 on 92/05/19 GMT (by TBHIC at OS2CUST) Subject: More filter and Keyboard Focus Occasionally I get an error message back form the more command saying it has lost keyboard focus. This has also occurred when booting off a maintenance partition and therefore having only one full screen session. More is the only filter I use on a regular basis, fo I don't know if it is a problem with more or the the piping mechanism. ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 15:09:52 on 92/05/20 GMT (by XXULTR09 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Error: 9051, CPS: Extent not found Ref: Append at 12:51:30 on 92/05/12 GMT (by HARGRAVE at BCRVMPC1) This problem can be corrected from 1.3 csd disk that ibm came out with Use the install disk(bootable) go into escape after the ibm logo appears and run a check disk witch is on this csd install disk. it's the 5015 or the 4098 csd,s . Work for me. After doing this chkdsk go into your directory C:\dir if files are there your laughing Dave Bourne Supervisor, End User Computing Ultramar Canada ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 19:18:45 on 92/05/20 GMT (by HARGRAVE at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Error: 9051, CPS: Extent not found Ref: Append at 15:09:52 on 92/05/20 GMT (by XXULTR09 at TORVMCOP) The original append refered to OS/2 2.0. The HPFS.IFS from 1.3 will NOT work under 2.0. As I said before, call IBM and report the problem. BJ Hargrave ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 20:39:47 on 92/05/20 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Error: 9051, CPS: Extent not found Ref: Append at 19:18:45 on 92/05/20 GMT (by HARGRAVE at BCRVMPC1) BJ, he is talking about running CHKDSK d: /F from the 1.3 Install diskette. All he is doing is using the 1.3 CHKDSK to fixup the problem that caused the CPS problem, then returning to run OS/2 2.0. We know of the problem, but I do not think the HPFS people know what the problem is. This method has worked for some, but the problem does reappear eventually on the same machine. Irv Spalten BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 12:50:50 on 92/05/21 GMT (by HARGRAVE at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Error: 9051, CPS: Extent not found Ref: Append at 20:39:47 on 92/05/20 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Then why not just run CHKDSK /F from the OS/2 Install diskettes? Bringing 1.3 into the picture just muddles it. CHKDSK is on diskette 2 for OS/2 2.0 rather than diskette 1 for OS/2 1.3. The root problem however is in HPFS.IFS for 2.0. BJ Hargrave ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 13:43:58 on 92/05/21 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Error: 9051, CPS: Extent not found Ref: Append at 12:50:50 on 92/05/21 GMT (by HARGRAVE at BCRVMPC1) BJ, for some reason the HPFS team hadn't discovered since I spoke to them last, 2.0's CHKDKS didn't clear the error. Only 1.3's does. Go figure... Irv Spalten BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 17:08:33 on 92/05/21 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8) Subject: Error: 9051, CPS: Extent not found Ref: Append at 13:43:58 on 92/05/21 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) With other 2.0 HPFS problems (this one I haven't seen before), we have been instructed to ask people to use the CHKDSK on the 2.0 install diskettes with CHKDSK c: /F:3. Not sure if this will fix problem but might be worth a try. Stephen Poole OS/2 Service and Support - IBM Austin, TX ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 17:42:57 on 92/05/21 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Error: 9051, CPS: Extent not found Ref: Append at 17:08:33 on 92/05/21 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8) Steve, the F:3 just takes longer as it CHECKS unallocated area's as we had a feeling some corrupted areas might have been unallocated, and once used caused problems, hence the hint. This is still an open problem, but using either F:3 or the 1.3 CHKDSK running under 1.3 could cure the problem, I have seen reports of both working. Irv Spalten BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 21:09:39 on 92/05/21 GMT (by STEVEB at BETASVM2) Subject: Process ID's. Is there a way to find out the ID of a process if you know the name of the process? ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 23:11:30 on 92/05/21 GMT (by IL22868 at OS2CUST) Subject: Process ID's. Ref: Append at 21:09:39 on 92/05/21 GMT (by STEVEB at BETASVM2) You can get the ID from the Window List (Switch List) title through the WinGetSwitchList API call. Running PSTAT from an OS/2 Command Prompt will give you Process IDs by EXE name, but I think if you need to get the PID of another EXE from a program, you will need to use the undocumented DosQProcStatus API call (documented on at least one OS/2 BBS). Ken Singer ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 16:15:29 on 92/05/22 GMT (by MFGI002 at OS2CUST) Subject: Chkdsk and recovery of extended file attributes (no text entered) Paul Burford ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 16:22:40 on 92/05/22 GMT (by MFGI002 at OS2CUST) Subject: chkdsk under fat and extended file attributes After an os/2 lockup, we rebooted off the install diskette and ran chkdsk /f. it worked, but asked us if we wanted wanted to delete to recover extended bute to files. we told it to revcover them to files & it did and everything seems to work fine, however now we have the extended attributes sitting out there in these recoverey files and don't know what to do with them. How does this work & and what do we do now? Paul Burford ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 16:29:37 on 92/05/22 GMT (by XXBCTE25 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Process ID's. Ref: Append at 21:09:39 on 92/05/21 GMT (by STEVEB at BETASVM2) Check out PSTAT from a command prompt. Lot's of info there. You'll see the name of your process with it's ID. Claude Biron ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 14:43:14 on 92/05/25 GMT (by XXMTBD03 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Creating OS/2 Install diskettes from a Pre-Installed system I have just received a 95 that was pre-installed with OS2V2 and although I have ALs coming out of my ears, I have not received a Pgm. Package yet. Is there a way to create installation diskettes from the pre-installation? If I use the special backup/restore commands from the pre-install, how do I create a boot diskette to start all of this? R. Poorter ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 13:50:52 on 92/05/26 GMT (by XXSTCO12 at TORVMCOP) Subject: System Shutdown Without Using a Mouse a way to shut down the system without having to use a mouse. Stelco - MSS (Micros) Technical Support (416) 528-2511 ext 4087/4147 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 15:06:18 on 92/05/26 GMT (by KIKO at TOROLAB2) Subject: System Shutdown Without Using a Mouse Ref: Append at 13:50:52 on 92/05/26 GMT (by XXSTCO12 at TORVMCOP) To shut down the system without using the mouse you do the following: 1. Set the focus on the desktop, by pressing ctrl-esc and selecting the OS/2 Desktop. 2. Make sure no icons on the desktop are selected. One way to do ensure this is by pressing up-arrow to change the selection, and then deselecting the icon by pressing space. 3. Ask for a pop-up menu for the desktop, by pressing shift-F10. 4. Select shutdown. Kiko ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 19:30:22 on 92/05/27 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8) Subject: System Shutdown Without Using a Mouse Ref: Append at 13:50:52 on 92/05/26 GMT (by XXSTCO12 at TORVMCOP) To shutdown without a mouse: 1. Use CTRL-ESC to get window list, use arrow key to position at "OS/2 Desktop" and press Enter. 2. Do a Shift-F10, this will present the desktop action list that includes SHUTDOWN. 3. Use arrow key to position at SHUTDOWN and press Enter. Stephen Poole OS/2 Service and Support - IBM Austin, TX ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 20:47:54 on 92/05/27 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: System Shutdown Without Using a Mouse Ref: Append at 15:06:18 on 92/05/26 GMT (by KIKO at TOROLAB2) Thanks Kiko, I was looking for the Shift+10 combination. Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 12:45:30 on 92/05/28 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Subject: System Shutdown Without Using a Mouse Ref: Append at 19:30:22 on 92/05/27 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8) Let me add a 2A to the list as sometimes, the desktop itself is NOT selected, but an object on the desktop. In this case, the popup menu for that object will show and SHUTDOWN will NOT be available. 2A) If SHUTDOWN is NOT on the list in the menu, you have NOT selected the Desktop. Use ESC to cancel the choice, then press SPACEBAR, now use SHIFT-F10. Irv Spalten BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 16:12:55 on 92/05/29 GMT (by JJIN033 at OS2CUST) Subject: Error: 9051, CPS: Extent not found Ref: Append at 17:42:57 on 92/05/21 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) We had the same error on our IBM PS/2 Model 95 Server. The system would crash after trying to access the OS2.INI file which turned out to be corrupted. We used the CHKDSK C: /F to correct the problem as previous folks have indicated. We also needed to run this same command on our D drive because we were receiving the message that INCORRECT INTERNAL FILE IDENTIFIER We used the CHKDSK from DISK #2 of from OS/2 V2.0. I want to thank everyone on the BBS that entered this problem - It helped us get to the heart of our problem quickly and bring our Server back on line. Thanks again... PS: After correcting the disk using CHKDSK as indicated above, we deleted the OS2.INI file and used a shareware product called WPSBK2 (Workplace Shell Backup written by Dave Lester) to rebuild the OS2.INI, OS2SYS.INI, etc. files. Whichout this shareware software we would have been up the creek without a paddle...... Walt Kapica Johnson & Johnson ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 05:10:52 on 92/06/02 GMT (by LEOA at BCRVMPC1) Subject: chkdsk under fat and extended file attributes Ref: Append at 16:22:40 on 92/05/22 GMT (by MFGI002 at OS2CUST) Do you have a dual boot system? Every time OS/2 touches a file it creates an extended attribute. The EA contains information like icon text, icon position on the desktop etc.. It is not critical information. If your EAs were disembodied from the files you are not in desparate shape. If you lost EAs from your root, files like EA DATA. SF - then you would have already noticed a problem and likely not appended anything as you'd be struggling with your system now. If you know which files are associated with the recovered EAs you can potentially try reattaching them using EAUTIL - but remember you are not getting much for the effort. About dual boot: Always be careful with files that you use in DOS which you also use in OS/2. OS/2 creates EAs for files, DOS apps no nothing about EAs and if they are using the same file and write it to disk - well the EAs are no longer properly associated with the file and chkdsk reports EA problems. ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 14:42:25 on 92/06/03 GMT (by XXMTBD03 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Creating OS/2 Install diskettes from a Pre-Installed system Ref: Append at 14:43:14 on 92/05/25 GMT (by XXMTBD03 at TORVMCOP) I have retried the 'BOOTDISK utilities' from a 56 SLC with preinstall and everthing worked fine. After checking both systems, the Mod 95 had some variances in the utilities files and was missing the preinstall guide. R. Poorter ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 15:16:39 on 92/06/04 GMT (by CARBONAR at RHQVM19) Subject: Problems with OS/2 V2.0 Shutdown I have installed OS/2 V2.0 on a Model 80, also installed is the extended services Communication Manager. The file system being used is FAT. When I wish to shutdown the system I bring up the desktop pop-up menu using the mouse button. I select SHUTDOWN, and answer OK. The system shuts down the communications manager, and then all disk activity stops. The desktop window will not close and I do not get any message that shutdown has completed. I am still able to use the system and I can start up the communcations manager again without any problems. Can anyone give me any clues ? M. Carbonaro, (CARBONAR at RHQVM19) ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 16:55:24 on 92/06/04 GMT (by CNADLER at WMAVM1) Subject: Problems with OS/2 V2.0 Shutdown Ref: Append at 15:16:39 on 92/06/04 GMT (by CARBONAR at RHQVM19) Are any other programs still running when you shut down (like PCPRINT)? Some programs do not respond correctly to the shutdown and OS/2 cannot complete it's shutdown when this happens. Press Control-Esc to see the list of running applications and close any that are still open. The shut down will then complete normally. Cliff Nadler Federal Sector Services Rockville, MD IBM Federal Systems Company PROFS: NADLER at WMAVM7 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 19:09:18 on 92/06/04 GMT (by IL12431 at OS2CUST) Subject: TRAP 0000 on Compaq SystemPro Base 2.0 GA on this machine. OS/2 initializes correctly, but on a call to open a host LU (SDLC) the system fails with a TRAP 0. All register information is zeroed out ('*'). The IPE is at location ##0160:fff6453f - 000d:a53f (60000,9084). The automatic configuration does not report an adapter address conflict. What is a TRAP 0? Is it definitely hardware? If so, of what nature? Are there any known problems running ES r307n on a Compaq SystemPro? Dave Scheffer, ARGO Data Resource Corp. ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 03:31:24 on 92/06/05 GMT (by BCHI052 at OS2CUST) Subject: Full screen not displayable OS/2 Full Screen command prompt is not displayable when running with 8514/A in hi-res mode. The full screen is active as I can see disk activity when I enter DIR command. I am also able (blindly) start/stop 3270 emulation from Comm Mgr (a full screen application) by remembering which keystrokes to use. Under VGA mode, Full Screen is displayable. Is anyone else having this problem? Aloha ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 13:24:52 on 92/06/05 GMT (by WEEKS at AUSVM2) Subject: TRAP 0000 on Compaq SystemPro Ref: Append at 19:09:18 on 92/06/04 GMT (by IL12431 at OS2CUST) I don't know what code is causing the Trap 0 but I can tell you that the Intel reference manuals define Trap 0 as a divide by zero error. Craig Weeks OS/2 Application Development Center Austin, Texas ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 15:20:07 on 92/06/05 GMT (by HARGRAVE at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Full screen not displayable Ref: Append at 03:31:24 on 92/06/05 GMT (by BCHI052 at OS2CUST) You probably have OS/2 configured to use the 8514 for PM and the VGA for full screen. To test this plug a monitor into the VGA port on the back of the system unit. When you go to full screen it should appear on the second display. The Selective Install program should correct this. When it detects an 8514 adapter it asks a question something like "Do you have a display attached to the VGA port?" Answer no to the question to have PM and fullscreen share to same display. BJ Hargrave ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 16:38:45 on 92/06/05 GMT (by XXTCAN06 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Problems with OS/2 V2.0 Shutdown Ref: Append at 15:16:39 on 92/06/04 GMT (by CARBONAR at RHQVM19) I had a similar problem, albeit with an LS program called ROIDEMON.EXE. I had double-clicked it to check it out but it got a semaphore enqueue error AND REMAINED CROSS-HATCHED in its folder. It prevented me from shutting down like you. I had to boot from the install diskette to rename the EXE file to something else to keep it from restarting automagically every time (NO: even CTRL-LSHIFT-F1 didn't keep it from restarting). May I suggest that you look in folders that you are likely to have started programs from to see if any have a cross-hatched background whilst not showing up on the Window List? Pierre Legault Transport Canada 1-613-993-7149 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 18:34:30 on 92/06/05 GMT (by VENRTC48 at DFWVM04) Subject: Startup Folder In my Startup Folder I have placed a shadow of STARTCM.CMD and an .EXE to handle automatic logon to VM. The problem is, no matter how I arrange these two icons in the Startup Folder, or which I place first in an empty Startup Folder, the .EXE is always executed before Communications Manager starts. Is there a way to specify the order in which programs are started in the Startup Folder? Scott Cantrell ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 19:27:29 on 92/06/05 GMT (by IL12431 at OS2CUST) Subject: TRAP 0000 on Compaq SystemPro Ref: Append at 13:24:52 on 92/06/05 GMT (by WEEKS at AUSVM2) Thanks Craig - we discovered that our CM LU definitions had been removed. Our software seems to recover, but we're still getting the trap after our software reports the failed connect to the CM LU profile name. I'm moving this over to the ES forum to determine if there are known problems with ES TRAP 0 on an undefined CM profile name. Dave Scheffer, ARGO Data Resource Corp. ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 00:54:30 on 92/06/06 GMT (by BCHI052 at OS2CUST) ..... OS2BASE CFORUM modified at 03:43:54 on 92/06/06 GMT (by BCHI052 at OS2CUST) Subject: Full screen not displayable Ref: Append at 15:20:07 on 92/06/05 GMT (by HARGRAVE at BCRVMPC1) THANKS! Full Screen was being displayed from the VGA port. In Selective Install I de-installed VGA as a Secondary Display by selecting the NONE as the choice for a Secondary Display. Somehow this doesn't seem to be the way the Primary and Secondary display was supposed to work. That is, in order to make use of it, one needs to change the port that the monitor is plugged into or have 2 monitors plugged into each port at the same time. I thought that at best it would allow you to change resolution on the fly. Or at least allow you to change the configuration so re-booting would effect the changes. Now I need to load 10 diskettes, albeit quickly, then reboot to make a video change. Or perhaps I'm still not doing or interpreting something correctly. ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 13:12:29 on 92/06/08 GMT (by PERSHNG at YKTVMH) Subject: Full screen not displayable Ref: Append at 00:54:30 on 92/06/06 GMT (by BCHI052 at OS2CUST) I'm not sure that I understand what you are saying, but the support is supposed to work as follows: - If you have two displays, then the presumption is that one of them is hi-res (e.g., 8514/A or Image/A adapter) and that the other one is plugged into the standard VGA port, and that both displays are powered on. PM takes over the hi-res tube, and full-screen stuff displays on the VGA tube. (This is the configuration that I have. One apparent anomaly is that WIN-OS2 sessions take over the entire hi-res tube and swith it into VGA (low-res) mode. Perhaps I have something configured wrong, but I don't care as the *only* thing that I use WIN-OS2 for is for running the on-line "help" facility that comes with the OS/2 version of CorelDRAW.) - If you have one display, then it is used by both PM and full-screen applications. If it is a high-res display, then PM will run it in hi-res mode (and will ignore the un-connected VGA port on the PS/2). Indeed, it can be somewhat annoying to change the configuration of your displays -- either adding a second tube, or getting rid of one of your (two) tubes. However, presumably you don't do this too frequently. John A. Pershing Jr. ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 15:51:55 on 92/06/08 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) Subject: Sound from PC Speaker is Sllloooooowwwwwww When using various games and AfterDark which send music or complex sounds to the speaker the sounds are very slow and difficult to understand. It sounds as if OS/2 is intercepting the sound and not allowing the sound to be sent directly to the speaker. Is this a known problem, or ? Lionel Dyck - Rockwell International, Information Systems Center ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 18:04:20 on 92/06/08 GMT (by ESTEELE at SJEVM5) Subject: Sound from PC Speaker is Sllloooooowwwwwww Ref: Append at 15:51:55 on 92/06/08 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) Yes, this is a known problem which is documented in the README file which you can find under the INFORMATION icon on your OS/2 desktop. Certain games and applications which attempt to generate high quality sound through the PC speaker, such as games using the "RealSound" technology, do so by taking control of the CPU and issuing 16,000 to 30,000 interrupts per second. This activity is VERY unfriendly to a pre-emptive multi-tasking environment. The solution is to either turn off the sound feature of the offending program, change the DOS SETTING HW-NOSOUND, or use a sound board like an AD-LIB or SoundBlaster card. GENE STEELE ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 18:11:57 on 92/06/08 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) Subject: Sound from PC Speaker is Sllloooooowwwwwww Ref: Append at 18:04:20 on 92/06/08 GMT (by ESTEELE at SJEVM5) Your suggested solutions are not really what the customer wants to hear. For OS/2 to be the success that everyone knows it can be it must not have these little annoying problems as that is what will tick folks off the most. There is no reason that this problem cannot be resolved by IBM, perhaps with another configuration setting (e.g. HW_SOUND = priority)... Lionel Dyck - Rockwell International, Information Systems Center ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 18:50:18 on 92/06/08 GMT (by XXCDSX26 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Sound from PC Speaker is Sllloooooowwwwwww Ref: Append at 15:51:55 on 92/06/08 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) In the various DOS_SETTINGS have you tried: HW_TIMER=YES IDLE_SECONDS=60 IDLE_SENSITIVITY=100 The above parameters allow the DOS sessions to hog the machine more and thus not be interrupted by OS/2's multitasking. Michael Harper - Cdn Depository for Securities, Ltd ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 19:07:17 on 92/06/08 GMT (by ESTEELE at SJEVM5) Subject: Sound from PC Speaker is Sllloooooowwwwwww Ref: Append at 18:11:57 on 92/06/08 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) I've heard that such options are being considered, but the problem with these types of programs is that they were written without multi- tasking in mind and are explicitly designed to take ALL of the CPU's attention in order to maximize the sound quality of the PC speaker which was designed and implemented to only be able to generate modest beeps and tones. The fact that things like "RealSound" do what they do with such limited hardware is rather amazing in itself. It is no simple trick to get digitized audio out of the PC speaker, and it requires most of your machines resources to do it. If IBM were to add an option to the settings that would make this work, (most likely by essentially stopping all other processes) It would cause things like background communications to fail. This works under Windows because that is precisely what happens; Most everything else stops. Please be advised that the above is my personal speculation only. GENE STEELE ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 19:58:13 on 92/06/08 GMT (by BCHI052 at OS2CUST) ..... OS2BASE CFORUM modified at 20:06:14 on 92/06/08 GMT (by BCHI052 at OS2CUST) Subject: Full screen not displayable Ref: Append at 13:12:29 on 92/06/08 GMT (by PERSHNG at YKTVMH) I see... Installation of Primary and Secondary displays implies or means 2 physical display adapters are to be used. I thought installing Primary and Secondary displays would allow me to alternately change running PM in Hi-res or VGA mode. In my case, I'm supporting PM applications which were developed to run in Hi-res and also in VGA mode. I thought this was a godsend, which would allow me to quickly switch the video drivers being used. Thanks for the clarification. Gerald ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 01:55:37 on 92/06/09 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Sound from PC Speaker is Sllloooooowwwwwww Ref: Append at 18:50:18 on 92/06/08 GMT (by XXCDSX26 at TORVMCOP) Michael lets talk about sound and OS2. There isn't a IConf for this. Different results seem to happen. Running Time-Table of History (a CDROM - DOS program) seems to produce sound through the external speakers hooked to the CDROM drive. Howver, althought the speech is clear and normal, the sentences are often not complete, but stop, and then continue after a pause. On the other hand, Corel's ARTSHOW CDROM issues a message telling you that you can't view the TBOOK show and listen to sound at the same time, which is not what happens in the Time Table. Sherlock Holmes (CDROM) won't install at all, indicating in a DOS full-screen that it can't find the sound-board! M$ BookShelf (1991 Windows version) works fine, and seamlessly, but issues a pop-up that says M$ Multi-media extensions are required in order to provide sound! Some DOS games like ISHIDO, in pre-OS2 days, used to provide loud clear sound effects from the PC speaker; under OS2, the program works elegantly - but there is hardly any sound effects. Any "sound" ideas? Elliott M. Avedon University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1 (519) 885-1211 x2204 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 02:59:01 on 92/06/09 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 2.0 Stalling or Lockup when lunching an Object System: IBM PS/2 80-041, 2 megs on planer, 8 megs on MCA memory expansion adapter by EXTEND. IBM SCSI controller (No Cache) connected to an SCSI Fixed disk 320 megs. Drive by Procom. VGA monitor 8513. * Note orginal MFM controller and Drive removed. SCSI adapter set as LUN 7 and Drive as LUN 6,0. I would like to know if any one else has experinced a problem with OS/2 2.0 where the system will lockup from 1 to 20 mins. when lunching a program or object. When the system stalls the mouse will appear as an arrow and can be moved but no Object can be selected. Further the keyboard will appear to be dead. This means that pressing the NUM lock or CAP key will not be reflexed on the indicator lamps. Most of the time the hard disk will remain lite (active). After awhile the system returns and operates correctly. It also has one other strange effect. If you should select various objects while it is locked or stalled, it will execute them all when the system returns This includes the pressing of the CTRL ALT DEL key. It is also possible to fill the keyboard buffer while the system is stalled. I would be interseted in knowing if anyone else has had this problem. Is there a fix for this problem. Is there a way to localize the source of this problem. ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 11:53:51 on 92/06/09 GMT (by XXCDSX26 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Sound from PC Speaker is Sllloooooowwwwwww Ref: Append at 01:55:37 on 92/06/09 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Elliott: See some of the previous appends. There seems to be two problems here. One is the herky-jerky sound. I have been able to cure this on my machine (Mod70 with Adlib) by adjusting the IDLE_* parameters (very similar to the DOS communication problem). The Ultima Games from Origin and Eye of the Beholder II from SSI work fine with these settings. The second problem is the "RealSound" system. As explained in a previous append it does nasty things to a multitasking system. Unfortunately, there are too many different sound systems out there, many requiring direct access to the hardware which OS/2 won't allow. I even have problems in DOS, some programs will recognise I have an Adlib, others require the loading of a TSR. It would have been nice if IBM had enhanced the speaker in the PC ala the Mac. Maybe take the one from the Ultimedia? Michael Harper - Cdn Depository for Securities, Ltd ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 14:18:31 on 92/06/09 GMT (by PERSHNG at YKTVMH) Subject: OS/2 2.0 Stalling or Lockup when lunching an Object Ref: Append at 02:59:01 on 92/06/09 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Yes, I have had OS/2 occasionally go "out to lunch" on me for protracted periods of time (e.g., on the order of 3 to 5 minutes), with exactly the same symptoms you describe (mouse tracks; keystrokes and clicks go into the buffer and all get executed when the system wakes back up). It has not happened too frequently, and does not appear to be reproducible (although I am in no hurry to reproduce this particular problem). I don't know what the cause is, nor do I know of any fix. I'll go bounce this one off of the internal OS2V2BUG forum and see if anything comes back. John A. Pershing Jr. ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 15:20:10 on 92/06/09 GMT (by XXWESB22 at TORVMCOP) Subject: OS/2 2.0 Stalling or Lockup when lunching an Object Ref: Append at 14:18:31 on 92/06/09 GMT (by PERSHNG at YKTVMH) I have a Model 90 with 16M ram, 400M scsi, 16/4 TRN card and I too occasionally have my machine "go for a soda". It usually occurs when I have made changes to the desktop. (Eg. added a printer, program etc.) A Reboot seems to fix the problem ( even if my desktop is a mess). PS. This new interface (including the Spell Checker) is great! Gareth Jones ISM - Information Systems Management Regina, SK Phone (306) 781-5109 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 16:04:16 on 92/06/09 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: OS/2 2.0 Stalling or Lockup when lunching an Object Ref: Append at 14:18:31 on 92/06/09 GMT (by PERSHNG at YKTVMH) I had the same problem with my Mod80-321 and They replaced my system board. (it was from the 1987). Since than I have'nt had any problems with it. Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 17:39:06 on 92/06/09 GMT (by GREENWD at HOUVMSCC) Subject: OS/2 2.0 Stalling or Lockup when lunching an Object Ref: Append at 02:59:01 on 92/06/09 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) I have experienced the same problem with my Model 80-161. The culprit appeared to be my Kingston Extended memory board. Once it was removed, the system did not hang, but ran quite slow since it only has 4M to work with on the system board. I have ordered an IBM memory board as a relacement. I will let you know how it works when I install it. Bruce Greenwood Houston, TX ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 01:39:39 on 92/06/10 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 Stalls and Locks up when Launching a program To those who have replied to the stalling problem, thank you. I thought I was alone. I have called IBM CSD division hoping they would have an answer but none has come forth. I am very interested in those of you that have other than IBM's memory expansion boards. When or if you replace them with an IBM memory board, did it cure the problem? If it does I wonder who will be at fault, "OS/2" , The board Vendor, or maybe IBM? I wait for your reply. Thanks Jerry Sitbon (718) 357-4369 Jerry Sitbon (718) 357-4369 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 01:52:01 on 92/06/10 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Sound from PC Speaker is Sllloooooowwwwwww Ref: Append at 11:53:51 on 92/06/09 GMT (by XXCDSX26 at TORVMCOP) You mention Adlib. I did note some negatives people have posted for SoundBlaster - but I don't know it they also meant the "Pro". I tried adding M$ MMSOUND.DRV, but it caused a fatal error, and WINOS2 would not work at all and gave a fatal error for any program when I tried to open "the window"! If I read between the lines you have posted here, I suppose I should return the CDROMs that won't work with out a sound card, and wait until we get an OS2 upgrade that can handle the multi-media exensions. Elliott M. Avedon University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1 (519) 885-1211 x2204 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 02:30:25 on 92/06/10 GMT (by RFITCH at ATLVMIC1) Subject: *.PAC Files Customer has download some files from OS/2 BBS. These files have the extension *.pac. What utility do you use to unpack these files? Unpack?? Randy Fitch ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 15:16:09 on 92/06/10 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Subject: *.PAC Files Ref: Append at 02:30:25 on 92/06/10 GMT (by RFITCH at ATLVMIC1) Use the UNPACK command that is included with OS/2. Just use the command: UNPACK filename.PAC That will unpack the component file(s) into the current subdirectory. Brent Allen - IBM OS/2 Base Services Support ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 18:30:55 on 92/06/10 GMT (by AABB0FC at OS2CUST) ..... OS2BASE CFORUM modified at 20:10:42 on 92/06/24 GMT (by HOPKINS at AUSVM8) Subject: OS/2 Stalls and Locks up when Launching a program Ref: Append at 01:39:39 on 92/06/10 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Ah good, at least I'm not alone with my SCSI based IBM PS/2's that hang up when running OS/2 2.0. Never had the problem with DOS or OS/2 EE 1.2 or 1.3. I tried reporting through the problem reporting mechanism of the OS2BBS, but also after 7 days it hasn't even been acknowledged. This morning I reported it to the support center because I'd at least like to have someone acknowledge the problem. Larry D. Smith - TEAMOS2 (but I kinda feel like the Cubs of yesteryear) ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 18:59:02 on 92/06/10 GMT (by XXCDSX26 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Sound from PC Speaker is Sllloooooowwwwwww Ref: Append at 01:52:01 on 92/06/10 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Elliott: The only problems I have read about SB has been the use of IRQ 7 -- the printer IRQ. As to CDRoms, games, et alia, multitasking opsys users have to be careful in selection as some products designed for single tasking opsys's will never work. RealSound games will not have sound under Win/NT either. The Win3.1 upgrade might help for some systems, but probably not all. Michael Harper - Cdn Depository for Securities, Ltd ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 19:04:08 on 92/06/10 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) Subject: Sound from PC Speaker is Sllloooooowwwwwww Ref: Append at 01:52:01 on 92/06/10 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) IBM Multimedia Presentation Manager/2. is available now. Program number 04G3367, Order Type #5871-AAA, Feature Code 2592" I don't know if it supports Soundblaster, though, and it probably won't help your Windows programs. Nathan Davis ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 00:44:54 on 92/06/11 GMT (by BCHI052 at OS2CUST) ..... OS2BASE CFORUM modified at 01:15:39 on 92/06/11 GMT (by BCHI052 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 Stalls and Locks up when Launching a program Ref: Append at 18:30:55 on 92/06/10 GMT (by AABB0FC at OS2CUST) I too have been frustrated by this problem. However, I tried moving my SWAPPER.DAT (in CONFIG.SYS -> SWAPPATH=C:\OS2\SYSTEM 2048 4096) from my C: drive to my E: drive where I have more free space. The lockup problem has not recurred (I have my fingers crossed). My C: drive has a total of 40 MB. With OS/2 and the initial 4096 KB SWAPPER.DAT on C: I only had a little over 2 MB left. I would intermittently get message SYS1477 "... partition containing SWAPPER.DAT file is full" because of the 2048 KB min free. However, it seems that OS/2 is inconsistent in issuing this message. Or inconsistent in sensing and handling when SWAPPER.DAT reaches min free. I would get the message sometimes and at other time not; when lauching programs in the same sequence. When the message does not appear, its seems that that's when the lockup situation occurs. I ran a test as follows: Opened in this order the following applications: System Editor w/C:README, Productivity folder, System Editor, Icon Editor, Enhanced Editor, Database, Spreadsheet, PM terminal, Seek + Scan files, Calendar, Notebook. When I got to Notebook, OS/2 locked up. Other times when going through the same scenario as above, I'd get message SYS1477 earlier in the launch sequence (but not always at the same point). Anyhow, there may not be any substance to this but psycholgically its working for me. ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 02:22:43 on 92/06/11 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Subject: OS/2 2.0 Stalling or Lockup when lunching an Object Ref: Append at 17:39:06 on 92/06/09 GMT (by GREENWD at HOUVMSCC) Kingston does have a problem only on 80's and with a limited set of cards only I have been told. I lost the info, but a call to Kingston can confirm this. I think it may be a very specific model. Irv Spalten BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 03:46:26 on 92/06/11 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Sound from PC Speaker is Sllloooooowwwwwww Ref: Append at 18:59:02 on 92/06/10 GMT (by XXCDSX26 at TORVMCOP) Michael, I talked with a tech representative of ICOM Simulations in Wheeling, Il. today. He explained that some CDROM GAMES and other presentations are fully "integrated", and that they require more than the sound reproduction system in a CDROM drive. These programs he said require a sound card of the "pro" type. It seems the "non-integrated" type have separate tracks for sound and sight, thus the operating system and the CDROM can "handle" these without the need for a sound card! So I suppose I have to buy a sound card if I want to use some of my CDROM disks, however, the issue is what card will work with OS2? I note in the following appen, someone indicates that IBM has now released a multimedia program that is for the Presentation Manager. I would assume there is IBM hardware as well. I'll keep you posted as I find out more. We have a group at UW that is deep into multimedia, and so I'm going to ask a few questions. Elliott M. Avedon University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1 (519) 885-1211 x2204 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 03:48:04 on 92/06/11 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Sound from PC Speaker is Sllloooooowwwwwww Ref: Append at 19:04:08 on 92/06/10 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) Thanks for the information. I'll get a look at the detail sheets. If it is PM maybe it will work with WINOS2! Elliott M. Avedon University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1 (519) 885-1211 x2204 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 12:19:41 on 92/06/11 GMT (by XXCDSX26 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Sound from PC Speaker is Sllloooooowwwwwww Ref: Append at 03:46:26 on 92/06/11 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Elliott: Yes, there is IBM multimedia hardware. Have you seen the Ultimedia machine (modified 57SLC+CDROM-II+XGA+modified speaker)? It is a very nice machine. Whoops, I forgot it also comes with the IBM Audio card. The one question I have and which I cannot find in the documentation is whether this card is Adlib or SB compatible. I would hate for all my games not to work. Michael Harper - Cdn Depository for Securities, Ltd ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 15:35:57 on 92/06/11 GMT (by XXCOOP39 at TORVMCOP) Subject: sys0039 We are having a problem with an L40 laptop, occasionally when double clicking on an icon on the desktop we get a SYS0039 "The C:\ device is not ready", we can hit the cancel button, and continue on normally. Any idea's on what's causing this? Kevin Engel Cooperators Data Services LTD ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 18:11:07 on 92/06/11 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 Stalling and Poor Performance System Description: PS/2 80-041 runnung OS/2 2.0 GA Planer Memory 2.0 megs Xtend Expansion Adapter/A 8.0 megs (Total 10 megs) IBM SCSI controller (no cache) connected to a 320 SCSI PROCOM Hard disk (1) 80387 16 mhz Math Coprocessor, 8513 color VGA Monitor. 1) On the problem of the system stalling or Locking up from 1 to 10 mins. This problem appeared with the system formatted in Both HPFS and FAT. The problem appears with different side effects based on how the system was set up. a) When the system was formatted in FAT the stalling came more offen but folders opened and closed very quickly. Overall performance was good. b) When the system was formmatted under HPFS the stalling was more random but folders closed very slowly. They opened at an acceptable speed. When I say slow in closing I mean two to five seconds after selecting close the folder would close. 2) When the system was installed using FAT, it took about six mins.,after the tutorial showed, until all the Desktop Objects appeared. When the system was installed under HPFS, it took between 30 mins. to six hours, after the tutorial showed, until all the Desktop Objects appeared. The reason I stated a time of 30 mins. to six hours was that we install the system a number of times to verify problems and this was the results from the testing. Further, we found that when the system was installed under HPFS, that when the system was shut down, after being installed, then rebooted, the printer object would be missing. The strange thing about this was the system was able to print even without a printer object. The same installation under FAT did not cause this problem. We have also found that the file SWAPPER.DAT will become corrupt when place on an HPFS system. If the system is loaded under FAT the file was OK. To keep the file from getting a lost allocation error the SWAPPER.DAT was place in a seperate partition (20 megs) formatted under FAT. This corrected the problem. SWAPPER.DAT did not become corrupt when placed in a FAT partition. I have read that many of you have seen the so call Black hole ICON. Well there are problems (bugs) with OS/2 and the ICONS. To get back an ICON that has turned into a black hole, enter the setting note book, go to the tab for GENERAL. Pick EDIT ICON then once the ICON appears, exit the ICON Editor. The ICON will reappear. If you study the ICON OBJECT in a folder carefully you might have noticed something interesting. (Note Icon object found on left side of title bar) It does not appear as a mini form of the object. Try this experiment. Select a folder on the desktop like "TEMPLATE". Open the notebook for the folder. Go to the page for GENERAL. Now pick EDIT, from the ICON EDITOR pick SELECT All then COPY. This will place a copy in the clip board. Exit the ICON editor. Now select CREATE ANOTHER. When the ICON EDITOR appears (Blank icon ) select PASTE. Pick close but remember to save "YES" Close the note book. Open the Folder. Look at the ICON OBJECT now. It will be yellow and reflex the real shape of the larger ICON. Well that's all for now. Waiting to hear from you. Jerry Sitbon (718) 357-4369 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 18:34:31 on 92/06/11 GMT (by XXCOOP39 at TORVMCOP) Subject: sys0039 We have a L40 laptop that occasionally gets a SYS0039 "The C:\ Device is not ready", after double clicking on a icon on the desktop. We can hit the cancel button and then continue normally. Any idea of what would cause this? Kevin Engel Cooperators Data Services LTD ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 21:17:07 on 92/06/11 GMT (by IL22993 at OS2CUST) Subject: Trap at ##0160:fff6fc01 I am not sure where to leave this message... I have a new AT bus machine that has installed and seems to run OS/2 well except for a sporadic hard stop of the system. (Twice in two days). Is is a BSR 486-20 with 4 meg. (SOON to be 8 meg!!! ... four meg is sure sllloooowwww <g>) The hard stop is not the usual full screen trap message. It is only ##0160: fff6fC01 - 000d:00015c01 2094, 4023 048600B4 version 6.307 92/03/01 This has happened twice, and once on the reboot, it was followed with a Trap 000E, ..all the registers... CS:EIP 0160:fff9fd1e ##0160:fff6453F - 000D:A53F 60000,9084 These are close to, but not exactly the same problems called out in the TNT document indicating memory, and/or the SVGA problem. The two SVGA fixes are on, as is the ST506 fix (although that was not needed to install). The SVGA card is based on the Trident chip, has 512 K, and I have found that it runs better with SVGA OFF. It gets horizontal flashing lines in the display during PM screen updates when SVGA is on. Oh... I believe the trap occurred when opening seamless windows sessions. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks..... George Clark ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 12:59:26 on 92/06/12 GMT (by PERSHNG at YKTVMH) Subject: OS/2 Stalling and Poor Performance Ref: Append at 18:11:07 on 92/06/11 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) You are not alone -- I experienced similar things when I installed. I had no idea that the incredibly long delay during install was related to HPFS (both of my drives are HPFS). A colleague believes that it is related to the size of the disk, so maybe it is initializing the HPFS structures one byte at a time. (During this 30-minute to 6-hour(?!) period, you will notice that the disk light blinks about once every fixe seconds.) I installed three times under "identical" conditions (with three different results!), and my inordinate delay was pretty stable at about 45 minutes. I installed onto a 315-MB ESDI disk. When you close a folder, OS/2 stashes the exact position of each icon (within the folder) into extended-attributes, which is why "close" takes such a long time (you would think that this would be the fastest thing that the system could do...). If you open the "Settings" menu, goto "Sort", select "by Name" and check the "maintain sort order" box, then both "open" and "close" will go much faster, since it will not have to farble around with the extended attributes and positions. And, as an added benefit, the stuff in the folder will be sorted by name! I have had my SWAPPER.DAT on each of my HPFS drives (boot drive, and the "other" drive) and have not encountered any "corruption" problems. I have been relatively fastidious about doing a full "Shutdown" before powering off at the end of the day, but I have also survived one power hit and a couple of hard system "hangs" that required the Big Red Switch. Knock on wood... I also experienced the same thing with the printer. I don't actually have a printer, but I needed to have the PostScript support installed so that it could be used by CorelDRAW's "print-to-file" function. During install, I said that I had a PostScript printer attached to LPT1, and it copied the device drivers. However, after the reboot(s), there was no printer apparent; also, CorelDRAW could not find the driver. So, I opened up the "Templates" folder and drug the Printer template to the desktop, and was able to get everything to work. The strange thing, though, is in the "printer characteristics" menu that pops up when you drag the printer template to the desktop, the icon for LPT1 was cross- hatched as if it was already "claimed" by some other printer. The next time I re-format and install this mess, I'm going to skip the printer, and then add it in after everything else is up and running. John A. Pershing Jr. ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 13:41:13 on 92/06/12 GMT (by IL44741 at OS2CUST) Subject: Startup Folder Ref: Append at 18:34:30 on 92/06/05 GMT (by VENRTC48 at DFWVM04) Scott: has anyone replyed to you? I'm interested in this issue myself, as we currently (w/ 1.3) autostart CM and programs dependant on CM. Ralph Smith PC LAN Tech NY State Dept. of Motor Vehicles ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 14:22:34 on 92/06/12 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) Subject: Sound from PC Speaker is Sllloooooowwwwwww Ref: Append at 12:19:41 on 92/06/11 GMT (by XXCDSX26 at TORVMCOP) The IBM audio card, ACPA, is not currently Adlib or SB compatible. However, it is capable of delivering higher quality audio than either. As more (any?) products use mulitmedia extensions (OS/2 and Windows), the specific card being used will become less important. Nathan Davis ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 14:46:31 on 92/06/12 GMT (by BRYAN at BCRVMPC1) Subject: OS/2 Stalling and Poor Performance Ref: Append at 18:11:07 on 92/06/11 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) A colleague of mine has the same problem (slow disk response) on a 8580-071 with a 640MB Adaptec drive attached to the SCSI controller. So far the planar, ESDI controller, and SCSI controller have been replaced, without effect. At this point he is only happy to hear that he isn't the only one in the world suffering. Barry Bryan ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 14:48:10 on 92/06/12 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) Subject: OS/2 Stalling and Poor Performance Ref: Append at 18:11:07 on 92/06/11 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) re: Swapper corruption; By corruption, do mean that CHKDSK reports allocation errors? This is normal (not an error). HPFS will reserve extra space for a file (if the program asks it to) to help reduce fragmentation. However, it does not modify the file size (in the directory entry) until the extra space is used. CHKDSK is just reporting that the directory entry's file size doesn't match the file's actual allocation. re: Black hole ICON; Another method that usually works and is much faster is to enter the setting note book and go to the tab for GENERAL. Pick Default, then pick Undo. re: Icon object stuff; An "icon" is really and array of icons. If, in the Icon Editor, you select Device->List... (Ctrl+L), you will see a list of all the icons contained in the "icon". If the "icon" contains a small representation (for VGA, I think it is the "(Independent) 1 Bits/Pixel, 16x16..."), then this icon will be used in the title bar. If not, the primary icon is scaled to fit in the title bar. This allows developers to create icons that look decent in the title bar. Nathan Davis ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 15:45:52 on 92/06/12 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Subject: sys0039 Ref: Append at 18:34:31 on 92/06/11 GMT (by XXCOOP39 at TORVMCOP) Sounds pretty strange. I've run a L40 (with and without power mgmt) and have not seen anything like that. Have you tested the disk using the reference disk diagnotics? Brent Allen - IBM OS/2 Base Services Support ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 16:16:26 on 92/06/12 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) Subject: Problems with OS/2 V2.0 Shutdown Ref: Append at 16:38:45 on 92/06/05 GMT (by XXTCAN06 at TORVMCOP) I have also experienced similar problems and have had the entire desktop down and the one-liner indicating that shutdown is in process but not yet the multi-line message indicating that it is complete. This one-liner has remained for as long as I have had the patience to let it remain on the screen (up to 10 minutes) before I give the system the 3-finger salute. I have tried Ctrl-ESC and nothing happens....... Lionel Dyck - Rockwell International, Information Systems Center ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 20:13:05 on 92/06/12 GMT (by PPL0013 at OS2CUST) Subject: Trap at ##0160:fff6fc01 Ref: Append at 21:17:07 on 92/06/11 GMT (by IL22993 at OS2CUST) I had the same trap (with all the same error message text) occur on a Compaq 386M with 8M memory and IBM 8515 VGA monitor. It happened while in a DOS window, trying to XCOPY files from a diskette in the A: drive to the hard disk (C:, FAT format). I didn't get the second trap; the system hung and had to be powered off. I thought this might be worth noting, although the circumstances are very different from yours. Sally Hiestand, Pennsylvania Power & Light ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 21:01:28 on 92/06/12 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 Stalling and Poor Performance Again I want to thank everyone who has spent the time in replying and sharing their experiences with OS/2 2.0. I direct this to Mr. John A Pershing: On the topic of the file SWAPPER.DAT becoming corrupt. From the description you give on the lost printer icon and having the system take a long time to load, these are the results of a corrupt or lost allocation in the SWAPPER.DAT file. With regards to the printer driver that appear to be used but not visible this too is a result of the system becoming corrupt. Once this happens you can't even delete the driver if you wanted too. You also said that the next time you load the system you planned not to install the printer driver. Don't do that. What will happen is the last item install by the system will become corrupt instead of the printer driver. Then the next time the system is started it will crash. To verify or demonstrate that the SWAPPER.DAT file is corrupt, click on the C icon and select CHECK DISK. Since the disk is being used you can't select Write Corrections to Disk. Select Check. The system, in most cases, will report a problem was found. To check which file caused the problem, from an OS/2 command prompt window enter CHKDSK C:. The system in most cases will report a problem with SWAPPER.DAT. I have a procedure on how to install the OS/2 system under HPFS without losing the printer icon and preventing SWAPPER.DAT from being corrupt. 1) Boot on the installation disk and divide the system into two partitions. For example on a 320 meg hard disk, 300 megs for installable and 20 megs for the logial drive. Continue installing and format the first partition under HPFS. 2) Install the system as usual. Select the printer you want to install. When all the objects appear after the tutorial do the following: 3) Edit CONFIG.SYS, change the line SWAPPATH=C:\OS2\SYSTEM to SWAPPATH=D:\SWAP Save CONFIG.SYS 4) Do a system shut down. Reboot the system with the installation disk. Insert disk #1, when requested. When the Welcome to OS/2 panel is displayed press the ESC key. From the A prompt enter the following command FORMAT D: /FS:FAT 5) Once complete, create a directory on the D drive call SWAP enter MD D:\SWAP 6) Erase the old SWAPPER.DAT enter ERASE C:\OS2\SYSTEM\SWAPPER.DAT 7) Optional: Enter the command CHKDSK C: /F:2 to insure that the C drive is clear of errors 8) Remove the floppy disk and reboot. This time the system will not have a corrupt SWAPPER.DAT and you will find the printer object on the Desktop. I have a list of problems that I have found with OS/2 2.0 GA. Most have been verified and reported by IBM. If anyone would like the list just let me know. General Message. I have reported the stalling to IBM for over a month. I am now working directly with the OS/2 support team. I am still waiting for them to admit that this problem exist. Someone said that it is normal for chkdsk to report an error. This is not true. First a bug was found in chkdsk, second under FAT no errors are found. Finally if SWAPPER.DAT is located on another drive no errors will be reported. On the ICON Editor. The problem I stated about it not showing colors to the icon object was stated because it you edit an icon it will not be updated in the object icon either. Try drawing an X over an icon using EDIT. The change will not be reflected in the Icon Object. This problem has been reported and verified. Thanks to every one again Jerry Sitbon (718) 357-4369 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 00:02:56 on 92/06/13 GMT (by BCHI052 at OS2CUST) Subject: Startup Folder Ref: Append at 13:41:13 on 92/06/12 GMT (by IL44741 at OS2CUST) How did you do this in V1.3? I needed to use a program that polled CommMgr until 3270 emulation initialized. This program was used in a CMD file befor starting emulation dependent applications. I am still using this method for OS/2 V2 startup. ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 00:29:49 on 92/06/13 GMT (by IL22993 at OS2CUST) Subject: Startup Folder Ref: Append at 00:02:56 on 92/06/13 GMT (by BCHI052 at OS2CUST) Now that Commm Manager comes with the Rexx EHLLAPI interface, this is fairly easy. (The documentation for the HLLAPI interface gets installed when you install the Comm Manager API data structures. It is a .doc or .txt file in the cmlib directory. I sure wish it was in .inf format.) I issued a "connect" to an emulator session, and if it failed, called a SysSleep 30 to wait 30 seconds, and the try again. SysSleep is documented in the Rexx .Inf file, in the utility section. I am not at work, or I would attempt to paste the sample code. Good luck... George Clark ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 07:45:56 on 92/06/13 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) ..... OS2BASE CFORUM modified at 08:04:28 on 92/06/13 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) Subject: OS/2 Stalling and Poor Performance Ref: Append at 21:01:28 on 92/06/12 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) CHKDSK will (nearly) always give allocation errors on SWAPPER.DAT while the system is running. This is due to the way HPFS allocates space, NOT a bug in CHKDSK. You will also get occasional allocation errors on OS2.INI. This is not a problem, and does not represent a corrupt file. If you use the /f parameter (from diskette), the allocation errors are corrected (as they should be for a file that is not in use). When an application asks the system for disk space, it can specify how much it thinks it will need. HPFS will find enough CONTIGUOUS space to fulfill the request and reserve it for the application's file. When the file is closed, any "extra" allocation units are returned to the system. CHKDSK simply (and correctly) reports the discrepancy between the current file size, and the amount of space reserved on disk. The reason CHKDSK no longer reports errors in your setup is FAT doesn't do the look-ahead allocation. When an actual write operation requires a new allocation unit, FAT tries to find one, making the application wait while it looks. The missing printer and other problems are (probably unrelated) bugs. Some modifications to your install process that make things easier: 1a) On the OS/2 Setup and Installation screen, the Software Configuration action bar item will allow you to change OS/2 parameters, including the SWAPPATH. Since you are creating a dedicated SWAP partition, why add the overhead of a directory? Just set SWAPPATH=D:¢ The Options pulldown will allow you to FORMAT other partitions WHILE the base system is being installed. (Multi-tasking during install!) Steps 3 thru 8 are either already taken care of, or unnecessary. 1b) As soon as the Desktop appears, SHUT DOWN IMMEDIATELY! Then you may reboot and start working. On the Icon Editor, if you draw the X on the 16x16 view (for VGA) it will show up in the Object's title bar icon as soon as you close (and save) the icon. It will appear right there on the Settings Notebook's title bar! Nathan Davis -- IBM FSC Houston ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 14:02:34 on 92/06/13 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 Stalling and Poor Performance 1 If you use the multitasking feature of OS/2 installation option, and format the D drive from the options menu you will still end up with a corrupt desktop. Please note that I have personally installed OS/2 2.0 GA over twenty times. Under HPFS it can load from anywhere from 30 mins. to 6 hours. Once it loads (object appears) there is a good chance if you shut down, the next time you bring up the system, you will find that the printer object is missing. If you bring a printer object to the desktop and try to delete the driver you will find that it is not possible. What happens is the system say, in its selection DELETE but when you select it the driver remains listed. The procedure I gave of formmating the D partition from the installation disk was given just for the reason that the system will not be multitasking. These problems have been verified and an OS/2 team is working on it. They too have not been able,as of this time,to explain the source of this problem.I have tried what you said exactly and it failed. 2. CHKDSK in its self may report the truth about the system but never the less SWAPPER.DAT does not restore itself and in time will become corrupt and the system will crash. This interaction occurs when SWAPPER.DAT is located in an HPFS partition. Again this problem has been verified by the IBM OS/2 team and a PMR exist for this problem. 3. Try using the EDIT button from the SETTING FOLDER in the GENERAL page. If you modify the object ICON it will not be reflected in the object ICON. IBM's OS/2 team has also discovered this problem and it also has been verified. PS: On the formatting the D drive from the Installation diskettes, after you see the A prompt you must insert disk #2. This disk contains the FORMAT command and the CHKDSK command. Jerry Sitbon (718) 357-4369 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 15:32:08 on 92/06/14 GMT (by IL41026 at OS2CUST) Subject: SYS0108 How do i get out of a SYS0108 "Locked disk" problem?? If I try to run ChkDsk /f on my C: drive (boot disk) I get this error! I have booted from a floppy in A: so I wasn't using the C: system files but still get the same thing? Chkdsk is reporting "lost extended attributes" on drive C: and I would like to correct this problem. It would really help if IBM gave better doc's. Charlie Wilson Charlie Wilson ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 19:16:11 on 92/06/14 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Sound from PC Speaker is Sllloooooowwwwwww Ref: Append at 12:19:41 on 92/06/11 GMT (by XXCDSX26 at TORVMCOP) Michael - I've asked my SE for some specs on the audio card. Actually, (I been told) that there isn't a separate audio and motion card, it is all in one now. As soon as I have some info, I'll append it. We had an AV IBM demo on Campus last week for the IBM Fellow who is deep into multi-media. He's from Delaware. The question is will the new card also work in a non-multi media machine, my 70-486! Elliott M. Avedon University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1 (519) 885-1211 x2204 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 21:01:09 on 92/06/14 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Subject: SYS0108 Ref: Append at 15:32:08 on 92/06/14 GMT (by IL41026 at OS2CUST) OS/2 keeps some files OPEN when it run on the BOOT drive. You can not run CHKDSK on the booted drive with the /F option. You can't do it if you boot the install diskette and then switch to C: and run the program that is on the C: drive. You CAN DO IT, if you boot the Install diskette, get to the A: prompt, instert Diskette #2 and from the A: run CHKDSK C: /F. Irv Spalten BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 07:31:38 on 92/06/15 GMT (by CYNTHIAW at SYDVM1) Subj: OS/2 Pipe --------------- A question regards to pipe. 1. Got a process (process A) which creates a pipe (\\PIPE\ABC), on the local machine (say, machine id MACHINEA). 2. A separate process (process B) which is on a different machine, but connected to the same LAN, uses the pipe created by process A. It identifies the pipe by \\MACHINEA\PIPE\ABC. 3. Question is, does process A need to be on the LAN server, or can be a normal LAN requestor ? 4. The scenerio I have is, if process A is on a LAN server, process B can recognize the pipe created by A. 5. If process A is on a LAN requestor, process B (also a LAN requestor, on the same LAN) fails to connect to the pipe created by A. The error I obtained is RC = 53. 6. Is there any documentation that says that process A needs to be on the server ? Thanks and Regards, Cynthia ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 09:48:51 on 92/06/15 GMT (by KOLSKY at HAIFASC3) Subject: OS/2 Pipe Ref: Append at 07:31:38 on 92/06/15 GMT (by CYNTHIAW at SYDVM1) OS/2 does not support peer to peer communications with named pipes. In order to do what you want, machine A needs to be a Lan Server. Amir Kolsky ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 11:56:30 on 92/06/15 GMT (by XXCDSX26 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Sound from PC Speaker is Sllloooooowwwwwww Ref: Append at 19:16:11 on 92/06/14 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Elliot: Where do you find enough slots in your Mod70! From what you have so far said I gather you have a memory card + a SCSI leaving you with the 16 bit slot. Don't you have XGA ? Michael Harper - Cdn Depository for Securities, Ltd ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 18:52:57 on 92/06/15 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) Subject: OS/2 Stalling and Poor Performance Ref: Append at 14:02:34 on 92/06/13 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) 1. I have also install OS/2 numerous times, all HPFS-only systems, and have never had these problems (except for the long initial load time). This is not to say that you are not having problems -- you (and others) obviously are. And it appears to be a serious one. My point is that these procedures have been extensively tested and work for the majority of users. As you said, the OS/2 team is working very hard to isolate and correct problems. 2. What specific error were you getting on SWAPPER.DAT? IF the messages read something like: The type of file system for the disk is HPFS. The HPFS file system program has been started. SYS0552: The system found file system errors on the disk specified. CHKDSK corrected an allocation error for the file \SWAP\SWAPPER.DAT. CHKDSK corrected an allocation error for the file \SWAP\SWAPPER.DAT. CHKDSK is searching for lost data. SYS0562: The system detected lost data on disk. CHKDSK has searched 100% of the disk. then YOU DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM! These messages are normal and unavoidable while the system is active on the checked drive. They do not mean SWAPPER.DAT has been corrupted. If you boot from diskette and run CHKDSK, any problems found will be corrected (though you may have to run it several times to be sure). Every time the system is booted, it erases and reinitializes SWAPPER.DAT. I only turn my machine off on weekends, and have never had a crash due to SWAP file problems. I help run a PS/2 lab with 10 OS/2 machines connected by a Token ring network that has been up for weeks without a crash. The only problems I have seen regarding swapping are: 1 It doesn't shrink (fix available) 2 The system doesn't handle a nearly full swap partition very well. There may be others that I have not seen, but these are the major ones. The last has been known to crash the system. Did you get messages indicating that the SWAPPER partition was getting full? If so then that was the cause of your problems. (This is equivalent to running out of memory in the middle of an operation). Nathan Davis ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 19:47:29 on 92/06/15 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) Subject: OS/2 Stalling and Poor Performance Ref: Append at 14:02:34 on 92/06/13 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) 3. Again, the icon is really an array of icons. The system will select the correctly formated icon for your display. The system objects' icons have the following devices (on my VGA system): Independent Color Form (=VGA) (Independent)1 Bits/Pixel, 16x16, 0x0, 0x0 Independent BW Form (=1.1 format) 8514 - 16 colors 1 Bits/Pixel, 20x20, 1024x768, 0x0 The Icon Editor always shows the first (VGA format), regardless of the actual display adapter being used. This might be considered a bug in the icon editor by a user (but not by the developers). When you edit the icon, be sure you are editing the "right" one. It will be replaced immediately. Nathan Davis ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 21:15:09 on 92/06/15 GMT (by IL22993 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 auto start of apps fails I have done several OS/2 installations, all HPFS, and the feature that starts all folders, etc. that were open on "Shutdown" the next time you re-boot has worked very well. I am now working on an AT bus machine with FAT hard drive. The autostart function seems to be very unreliable. The Clock, and Pulse almost NEVER restart on boot-up, and some of the folders are very sporadic. Even when I drag shadows of those objects into the startup folder, they don't always start, and on some occasions, the WPS never gets fully started, and I have to Ctl-Esc, End the WPS, and then the system recovers. Is this possibly caused by the FAT drivers. I can reformat to HPFS if it would make things more stable. The particular user is a real beginner with computers and I would like this installation to be as stable as possible. Thanks George Clark ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 22:24:50 on 92/06/15 GMT (by EYERMAN at DALHQIC2) Subject: Performance Numbers for OS/2 v2.0 I am working with a software vendor who is interested in moving to OS/2 v2.0, but wants to see information on the performance enhancements found in OS/2 v2.0 as compared to OS/2 v1.3. His exact question is: Why move to OS/2 v2.0. He has all the marketing literature, but wants to see hard and fast numbers. I have looked around, but cannot find what the vendor wants. Does anyone have this information and can I get a copy of it? Replies to this forum or directly to me would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. David Eyerman ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 23:02:27 on 92/06/15 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Sound from PC Speaker is Sllloooooowwwwwww Ref: Append at 11:56:30 on 92/06/15 GMT (by XXCDSX26 at TORVMCOP) Michael, On the mod 70, I have an internal modem, a scsi card, and a 5 1/4 external drive card. I'm going to dump the 5 1/4 drive. I hardly use it any more. I have a plotter on the COM1 port, but could put a switch box there, and add an external modem. Thus I could have two ports free! The alternative is to buy a new machine if I want multi-media. Elliott M. Avedon University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1 (519) 885-1211 x2204 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 13:09:51 on 92/06/16 GMT (by PPL0013 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 hangs on power-on; CNTL-ALT-DEL needed to start We currently have 11 PCs running OS/2 2.0. Almost daily on at least one machine, the system hangs when the user first powers on in the morning, before OS/2 has completely come up. CNTL-ALT-DEL corrects the problem. This has occurred on PS/2 Model 70s and Compaq 386M and 486S machines (all have 8M memory). All are configured the same: Communications Manager is in the Startup folder, and brings up four 3270 terminal sessions automatically. Has anyone else experienced this problem? Sally Hiestand, Pennsylvania Power & Light ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 16:27:19 on 92/06/16 GMT (by WEEKS at AUSVM2) Subject: OS/2 hangs on power-on; CNTL-ALT-DEL needed to start Ref: Append at 13:09:51 on 92/06/16 GMT (by PPL0013 at OS2CUST) Yes, I have. I gave up -- removed CM from the Startup folder and put it in STARTUP.CMD. This isn't much of an answer and certainly isn't the one I want -- but it's the pragmatic one .... it works and took almost none of my time to implement. Craig Weeks OS/2 Application Development Center Austin, Texas ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 21:52:59 on 92/06/16 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) ..... OS2BASE CFORUM modified at 23:08:30 on 92/06/16 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 Stalling and Poor Performance Ref: Append at 19:47:29 on 92/06/15 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) Hello ! Mr. Nathon Davis; I understand that the icons are stored as an array of bit. Yet there is a strange effect that can be demonstrated about updating an ICON. Try this. Select a folder Open folder so the Icon Object is displayed. (Normally a Black and White Outline of the image) Go to the General page. Select EDIT, the folder will display in normal colors. Pick FILE, SAVE, As you stated a list of device types will be shown. Save it using the default 5 types of device formats. Then exit the ICON Editor. Notice that the ICON Object has not changed. ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 10:21:54 on 92/06/17 GMT (by KOLSKY at HAIFASC3) Subject: OS/2 Stalling and Poor Performance Ref: Append at 21:52:59 on 92/06/16 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) This behavior is seen when trying to edit one of the default icons. It is a bug. Amir Kolsky ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 11:58:42 on 92/06/17 GMT (by XXCDSX26 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Sound from PC Speaker is Sllloooooowwwwwww Ref: Append at 23:02:27 on 92/06/15 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) I'm waiting for an updated M57 -- one with 32bit slots and more planar memory. It might come out next year. Michael Harper - Cdn Depository for Securities, Ltd ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 13:16:54 on 92/06/17 GMT (by SAMI3QU at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 hangs on power-on; CNTL-ALT-DEL needed to start Ref: Append at 13:09:51 on 92/06/16 GMT (by PPL0013 at OS2CUST) I have the same problem on 2 different machines. Both machines are 386/33's, but the hardware is completely different. One machine has ES and LAN Requester installed and the other only has the base OS/2 2.0 installed. The problem doesn't seem to be related directly to CM in the Startup folder. The problem seems to happen if ANYTHING is in the Startup folder. It also seems that the more things in the Startup folder, the more likely that OS/2 will fail to start properly. For the time-being, I've disabled the auto-start feature by putting a SET RESTARTOBJECTS=NO in my CONFIG.SYS. Mark Thompson - Coal Services Corp. St. Louis, MO ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 17:03:11 on 92/06/17 GMT (by BRETT at RALVM5) Subject: OS/2 hangs on power-on; CNTL-ALT-DEL needed to start Ref: Append at 13:09:51 on 92/06/16 GMT (by PPL0013 at OS2CUST) Sally, I don't believe you need to have Communications Manager in the startup folder. If you do a shutdown while Communications Manager is running, it should automatically start the next time you turn on the machine. Make sure auto-start is enabled for the 3270 sessions in the Comm Mgr config files. It works fine with my configuration. Brett King ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 18:07:39 on 92/06/17 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) Subject: OS/2 Stalling and Poor Performance Ref: Append at 21:52:59 on 92/06/16 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) The ICON Object has not changed because you did not change the icon. Here are some experiments to try: 1. Create a Folder by dragging the Folder template to the desktop. 2. Open the Settings View for the Folder and go to the General page. 3. Select Edit to open the icon editor. 4. Select Device->List (or press Ctrl+L) 5. Select the appropriate device for your display For VGA this is: "Independent Color Form (=VGA)" For XGA and 8514: "8514 - 16 colors" 6. Press View (the selected icon will display in the editor) then press OK (to dismiss the Device List dialog. 7. Draw an "X" on the displayed icon 8. Select File->Save to save the icon (save all five choices), then close the icon editor. The folder icon in the Settings' General page and on the desktop should now have an X on it. To change the title bar icon, repeat the above steps, except: 5. Select the appropriate device for your display For VGA this is: "(Independent)1 Bits/Pixel, 16x16, 0x0, 0x0" For XGA and 8514: "1 Bits/Pixel, 20x20, 1024x768, 0x0" The results will be visible in the Settings notebook's title bar. To see a scaled representation of the Desktop bitmap in the title bar, when you save the icon, deselect the device(s) from step 5 immediately above (so it isn't saved). The Settings Notebook's title bar icon will become a yellow blob. This is the way (I think) it should work, and the way it does work on several systems I have tried it on. Let us know if it works differently for you. Nathan Davis -- IBM FSC, Houston TX ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 03:47:12 on 92/06/19 GMT (by XXCSGR01 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Full screen not displayable Ref: Append at 03:31:24 on 92/06/05 GMT (by BCHI052 at OS2CUST) You might try typing something like MODE CO80 in the nondisplayable full screen. Mike Valenti ISM Corp. ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 06:06:08 on 92/06/19 GMT (by FORBES at TOROLAB5) Subject: Full screen not displayable Ref: Append at 03:31:24 on 92/06/05 GMT (by BCHI052 at OS2CUST) If you move the screen or install another in the vga plug, rather than the 8514/A plug, is it displaying there? Eric Forbes, Canada Lab., Toronto. ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 15:37:00 on 92/06/20 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) Subject: Capture of Error register information - how? When an OS/2 application encounters a problem and the error window pop's up how does one capture the register and failure information electronically so that it can be easily pasted into a trouble report (such as an IBMLink ETR) without having to resort to the pen transcription to paper technique? Lionel Dyck - Rockwell International, Information Systems Center ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 03:33:00 on 92/06/21 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Capture of Error register information - how? Ref: Append at 15:37:00 on 92/06/20 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) If you hir the Print Screen key, it sends the window (bitmap) to the default printer. It works even when ID=17 (PM itself) dyes. It means, that at least we don't have to record it. It would be nice to append this information to a file maybe in ¢os2¢system directory and flush the buffers in any system error,but maybe later. Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 03:51:29 on 92/06/21 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: AutoCad for OS/2 , OS2KRNL I keep reading messages from a fix for using AUTOCAD. I have Autocad for OS/2 R10.c14 on my GA system and I dont have any problem (yet) . Should I download and apply it? Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 22:39:58 on 92/06/21 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Subject: AutoCad for OS/2 , OS2KRNL Ref: Append at 03:51:29 on 92/06/21 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Geza - where are you reading about fixes for ACad? and where would you download it from? Is the fix on the IBM ESDTools Disk? I'm running the same version as you - doing lots of work with it, and I'm not having any problems. What does the "fix" do? Elliott M. Avedon University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1 (519) 885-1211 x2204 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 05:05:22 on 92/06/22 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: AutoCad for OS/2 , OS2KRNL Ref: Append at 22:39:58 on 92/06/21 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Elliott, There are files on the Vancouver BBS and messages in the Atlanta BBS (OS2V2 DIGEST). I ever read about that AutoDesk has fixes. It is working for me fine, so I'm looking around before playing the Kernel. Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 22:57:01 on 92/06/22 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Subject: AutoCad for OS/2 , OS2KRNL Ref: Append at 03:51:29 on 92/06/21 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) The replacement OS2KRNL contains a fix for APAR PJ04081 which was a IPE (Trap D) at location 150:4912. Some version of Autocad (I don't know which) ran into this problem so it has been called the "Autocad fix" but it isn't the only program to have this problem. If you're not experiencing the Trap, then you probably don't need this fix. Brent Allen - IBM OS/2 Base Services Support ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 01:01:21 on 92/06/23 GMT (by ALLT001 at OS2CUST) Subject: AutoCad for OS/2 , OS2KRNL Ref: Append at 22:57:01 on 92/06/22 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Release 2.62 of Autocad needs this fix. In fact, DOS 5 won't run this release of Autocad proving that OS/2 2.0 is indeed a "better DOS than DOS". ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 05:45:24 on 92/06/23 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: AutoCad for OS/2 , OS2KRNL Ref: Append at 01:01:21 on 92/06/23 GMT (by ALLT001 at OS2CUST) Thanks Brent. I taught that the OS/2 version of Acad needs to be fixed. Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 01:22:41 on 92/06/24 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Subject: AutoCad for OS/2 , OS2KRNL Ref: Append at 22:57:01 on 92/06/22 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Thanks for the information. I've had no problems using AutoCad v 10 for OS2. I only wish they would offer the recently announced version 12 for OS2. I sent them a letter to this effect, when they wrote to me asking why I hadn't "upgraded" to v 11 for "Windows"! Elliott M. Avedon University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1 (519) 885-1211 x2204 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 01:27:42 on 92/06/24 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Subject: AutoCad for OS/2 , OS2KRNL Ref: Append at 22:57:01 on 92/06/22 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Brent, although I've been using the LINK for about a year, and have been part of the EEP group here since the begining, I never heard about APARs until I started to read some of the appens on this new IConf system. What is an APAR? Are these somewhere on the LINK or does one get them from an IBM SE? Do we have access to them, or only special people get to see these? Thanks. Elliott M. Avedon University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1 (519) 885-1211 x2204 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 07:38:14 on 92/06/24 GMT (by THRUMD at SYDVM1) Subject: AutoCad for OS/2 , OS2KRNL Ref: Append at 01:27:42 on 92/06/24 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) APAR is IBM acronymese for Authorised Program Activity Report or something similar. It was originally from the mainframe world, but applies to the PC world also. When a customer reports a problem to IBM via the official service support channels, and the problem is confirmed, an APAR is generated that tracks the problem. Each APAR has a unique number. Eventually the APAR will progress to the stage there is a fix available. (i.e. "there is a fix for APAR xxxxxx"). The fix will be sent to the person/organization that originally reported the problem. Other people who find out about the APAR can also request to be notified of the availability of an APAR fix. Not all APARs will finish their life (IBM terminology is "closed") as a fix. Some may eventually be determined as "working as designed", others (particularly if a major coding effort would be required to fix) may be closed as "SUG" (suggestion for inclusion in a future release), or as "DOC" (error was in documentation), as a "Permanent Restriction" or some other disposition. Eventually, APAR fixes will find their way into preventive maintenance, such as CSDs, and later into the next release/refresh of the product. (hope this doesn't leave you more confused than before...) Dave ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 15:14:56 on 92/06/24 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Subject: AutoCad for OS/2 , OS2KRNL Ref: Append at 01:27:42 on 92/06/24 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) I'm not familiar with what you have on the Canadian Link system so I don't know if you have access to the APAR information or not. On IBMLink (US), the ServiceLink application is used to view APARs. OS/2 BBS customers can use the Search Service application. You might want to put an append in the OS2CAN CFORUM to see if you have a similar application. (Thanks Dave for the explanation of APAR's) Brent Allen - IBM OS/2 Base Services Support ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 16:26:20 on 92/06/24 GMT (by XXTCAN01 at TORVMCOP) Subject: AutoCad for OS/2 , OS2KRNL Ref: Append at 01:27:42 on 92/06/24 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) As a mainframe support person for many years I am familiar with APAR's and PTF's. Service link( a folder within IBMLink) is were I get to SRCH(Search Service) IT is restricted in the number of users at a Customer site. Lots of machine horsepower needed (databases are huge) I log my problems electronically using ETR. I order PTF's(fixes for multiple APAR's) using SRD. Bob Turner Transport Canada ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 13:26:12 on 92/06/25 GMT (by XXTAXO01 at TORVMCOP) Subject: EA_DATA._SF size is excessive (7megs). Why? Currently I am running os2 2.0 with a 300 meg drive formatted as FAT. There are 6789 files on the drive and EA_DATA._SF is currently 7,053,312 bytes in size. Isn't this excessive? I don't know if this is related but I ran chkdsk and got 4 sys1324 messages (xxxxx is cross-lined on extended attribute 1 (or 2)). The help message suggests that I copy, delete and recreate the bad files. That's fine except one of the entries is os2!_2.0_d directory. Thanks David McClelland Revenue Canada Taxation (613) 952-5570 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 17:25:40 on 92/06/25 GMT (by XXCDSX26 at TORVMCOP) Subject: EA_DATA._SF size is excessive (7megs). Why? Ref: Append at 13:26:12 on 92/06/25 GMT (by XXTAXO01 at TORVMCOP) David: It MIGHT be excessive. How many of those files are executables? During installation of 2.0 the stupid install scanned your disk and attached a 53-byte EA to all executables. Each 53-byte EA occupies a 2K cluster ... Thus, using back-of-envelope math, more than 50% of your disk is executables .... However, the cross-linked EA messages indicate that you might have a messed-up EA file. First clear them up by : - booting off the Install disk, - proceeding to Disk 1, - exiting to OS/2 and change to Disk 2, - going to the A: drive and executing from Disk 2 "CHKDSK C: /F:3" - Answer "N" to the convert to files message. Now, see what the size is. The size of EA DATA. SF on my disk is < 600K. ByTheWay, do you have one of those drives that increase it's capacity by having 4-8K cluster sizes? Michael Harper - Cdn Depository for Securities, Ltd ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 19:36:59 on 92/06/26 GMT (by IL26761 at OS2CUST) Subject: Where can I find parms. Can some one out there please tell me where I might find some documentation on the parms for the following. CDFS.IFS CDROM.SYS Jack Hiatt MARC-Life Atlanta Ga. P*hxft68a ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 19:58:34 on 92/06/26 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) Subject: Location of Lockup BMPs Is there any way to redefine the location of the bitmaps to be used by the lockup function? Currently they MUST be in C:\OS2\BITMAP....... Thanks for any input. We have a few folks with very little room left on their 'C' disk an who would like to move the bitmaps elsewhere (as was possible with the 1.3.1 lockup utility). Lionel Dyck - Rockwell International, Information Systems Center ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 20:33:03 on 92/06/26 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST) Subject: Where can I find parms. Ref: Append at 19:36:59 on 92/06/26 GMT (by IL26761 at OS2CUST) Jack, This was in the OS2HW forum. DEVICE=C:\OS2\CDROM.SYS /Q /I /N:4 The "/I" appears to limit the driver to IBM-only support. The "/Q" suppresses installation messages. Mike Long - CARD Iowa State University - PC/LAN Analyst ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 11:57:50 on 92/06/27 GMT (by ANDJARN at LDGVM1) ..... OS2BASE CFORUM modified at 16:58:18 on 92/06/28 GMT (by ANDJARN at LDGVM1) Subject: Location of Lockup BMPs | Totally wrong. Sorry... ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 12:27:18 on 92/06/27 GMT (by IL26761 at OS2CUST) Subject: Where can I find parms. Ref: Append at 20:33:03 on 92/06/26 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST) Thanks, That's a starting point anyway. Looks like I better stop on the link when I get off here and order some of the OS/2 manuals. I feel there is a lot missing from the online docs and what is sent with OS/2. Jack Hiatt MARC-Life Atlanta Ga. P*hxft68a ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 18:40:45 on 92/06/29 GMT (by PPL0013 at OS2CUST) Subject: What bug fixes are available? I read in today's PC Week that bug fixes are being posted on CompuServe and IBMLink. For what problems are these fixes available? We have experienced several problems which we would consider applying fixes for, but we need to know what's available before we decide whether we should apply them or not. Sally Hiestand, Pennsylvania Power & Light ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 19:16:32 on 92/06/30 GMT (by SSIA013 at OS2CUST) Subject: What bug fixes are available? Ref: Append at 18:40:45 on 92/06/29 GMT (by PPL0013 at OS2CUST) Go to the files section of this BBS and select the first item ... Each item listed has an extended description with it also, so you can see exactly what bugs where fixed. Paul Kurr -- Stockholder Systems, Norcross GA ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 01:42:41 on 92/07/01 GMT (by XXHAYM01 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Diskcopy Behaviour Is it just me, or are other people bothered by the way the Diskcopy program in OS/2 2.0 reacts if a target disk that is write-protected is inadvertently inserted? Rather than warning one to that effect and providing the opportunity to replace the disk, the copy terminates, and the original has to be read all over again. This hardly seems like the way an advanced operating system should behave! Tom Koschate Hay Management Consultants (416) 868-1371 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 11:16:18 on 92/07/01 GMT (by WZ00533 at OS2CUST) Subject: Diskcopy Behaviour Ref: Append at 01:42:41 on 92/07/01 GMT (by XXHAYM01 at TORVMCOP) Tom, It's not you, (if it is, it's also me). What with all the beta's, tools etc, I've had to make zillions of diskcopies. Without fail, one of the disks will be write protected and zap, the ungracious situation you described. Dave Dave Ferrey - Bethlehem Steel Corp - Bethlehem PA ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 22:42:19 on 92/07/01 GMT (by ROK2070 at OS2CUST) Subject: Diskcopy Behaviour Ref: Append at 01:42:41 on 92/07/01 GMT (by XXHAYM01 at TORVMCOP) I agree !! IBM: How about changing DISKCOPY to give us a chance to change disks? Ron Palmer, Rockwell International, Rocketdyne Division ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 13:06:19 on 92/07/02 GMT (by 86693596 at WARVM2) Subject: Location of Lockup BMPs Ref: Append at 19:58:34 on 92/06/26 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) Lionel, Sorry you've had to wait so long for an answer to this, I know of no direct way to select other directories of bitmaps for the lockup function, but you CAN do this for background bitmaps for folders or the desktop, and this also provides an indirect way of doing the lockup function as well. Selecting any bitmap as a desktop or folder backround: ===================================================== Right Mouse Button click on the background of the desktop or folder and select the arrow by "Open" and select "Settings". Click on the "Background" tab. Make sure you've selected "Image", not "colour" as the background style, and then click on "Find", which is the key to using bitmaps other than the ones in \os2\bitmap. The "Find" dialog is NOT particularly intuitive, but here's how to select the directory for your bitmaps: Click on "Locate", then the "Path" tab, and then type in the drive & path where your bitmaps are stored, e.g. D:\mystuff\bitmaps Then click on "OK", click on "Find", and you should be given a window with a list of all the bitmaps in the chosen directory. Click on the one you want and then on "OK" to finish. Voila! Close the settings and your chosen bitmap is now shown as the desktop/folder background. Selecting any bitmap as the background for Lockup: ================================================= Create a new folder, e.g. by dragging the folder object from the "templates" folder to the desktop. Use the procedure described above to make this folder display the bitmap of your choice as its background. Then size the folder to nearly fill the whole screen, leaving room to click on the desktop. Now open Desktop settings, and select the Lockup tab. Then click on the "right arrow" in the bottom right corner of the page (notice the "page 1 of 3"), and select "Partial Screen". Then close the desktop settings. This means lockup does not clear the screen, but just puts a bar across the top of thes screen. If you make sure your folder is occupying the screen when this happens, you effectively get the effect you're looking for. Keep the folder minimised (hidden), when the system is in use, and bring it up from the Window List (Ctrl-Esc) when you're about to lockup. This approach has 2 limitations: (1) Hassle, and (2) Won't bring up the bitmap for "automatic" lockups after a specified timeout. Hope it's a useful workaround nonetheless. Note that this approach can also be used to have some other window (e.g a DOS or PM program) provide the backdrop for your lockup. I have a DOS graphics animation program, for example. Andrew Agerbak, EAS Product Support, Brentford, UK ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 13:38:33 on 92/07/02 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) Subject: Location of Lockup BMPs Ref: Append at 13:06:19 on 92/07/02 GMT (by 86693596 at WARVM2) Thanks for the new approach. I had already figured out the background question. Now off to see if your alternate technique will satisfy my user(s). Have a great 4th. Lionel Dyck - Rockwell International, Information Systems Center ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 18:10:30 on 92/07/02 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) Subject: Beeps for no reason that are apparent On occasion when I open a new window or start an application the system issues a low beep. I can see no reason for the beep and am wondering what it indicates. I am running OS/2 2.0 with Spool, Mouse, Kernel fixes. Extended Services Communications Manager, TCP/IP 1.2.1 (TelnetD, LaMail, Sendmail, NFS, FTPD, Routed) on a AST Bravo 486/25 with 16mb ram, 20mb swap partition. Lionel Dyck - Rockwell International, Information Systems Center ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 00:40:54 on 92/07/03 GMT (by ALLT001 at OS2CUST) ..... OS2BASE CFORUM modified at 00:40:27 on 92/07/07 GMT (by ALLT001 at OS2CUST) Subject: Beeps for no reason that are apparent This APPEND was deleted at 20:40:26 on 07/06/92 EST. ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 23:00:26 on 92/07/05 GMT (by U6200 at BTVLABVM) Subject: Beeps for no reason that are apparent Ref: Append at 18:10:30 on 92/07/02 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) Lionel, I participated in the OS2 internal beta test and got the beeping behaviour whenever I began to use all the system resources. Your list of applications sound like you're running a lot of resource hungary applications. How full is your swap space and what does your SWAPPATH parameter in the CONFIG.SYS file look like? Gary Coryer ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 13:54:44 on 92/07/06 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) Subject: Beeps for no reason that are apparent Ref: Append at 23:00:26 on 92/07/05 GMT (by U6200 at BTVLABVM) I have anywhere from 5 to 8 mb available on my swap drive with a warning level of 2048 so I don't believe that is the problem. Thanks for your suggestion. Lionel Dyck - Rockwell International, Information Systems Center ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 20:06:05 on 92/07/06 GMT (by XXINSY35 at TORVMCOP) Subject: OS/2 Error 121 Could someone tell me what "OS/2 Error 121 has occurred/the semaphore timeout period has expired" message means? This was generated by our LAN Server 2.0 DC. The server stopped sharing home directories when people logged on (although users could "net use" any resource that was already shared.) I tried forcing a share manually at the server and that's when the message was generated. I had to bring the LAN down, afterwhich everyone could log on fine. We were within our defined number of communication and network resource parameters (at least as far as I could tell). The only theory I can think of is - our server had not been re-started for over a week. Is it possible that we had exceeded the number of semaphores/threads allowed - because previously used/created ones were not being "un-allocated" as they finished. Is this possible? If this is of any use - we have a 50-MHz 486 w/ 20MB RAM and 1.2GB of disk. It's an EISA machine. The swapper.dat file was at 7MB, but had not "grown" for a few hours (according to the file's date/time stamp). ANY help/info. would be appreciated. Denis Tsai / Investors Group ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 00:56:38 on 92/07/07 GMT (by ALLT001 at OS2CUST) Subject: Diskcopy Behaviour Ref: Append at 22:42:19 on 92/07/01 GMT (by ROK2070 at OS2CUST) Yes, I would say it's pretty annoying. I just tried it myself and am suitably unimpressed. It's all to easy to stick in the wrong disk (or just hit the enter before you change the input - which I always protect). This looks like a good place for an easy change to get some loud cheering when it's fixed. Bruce M. Ferry, ALLTEL Corporation ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 22:28:55 on 92/07/07 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST) ..... OS2BASE CFORUM modified at 16:44:44 on 92/07/08 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 Stalling and Poor Performance This APPEND was deleted at 12:44:43 on 07/08/92 EST. ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 00:28:36 on 92/07/08 GMT (by AMXD031 at OS2CUST) ..... OS2BASE CFORUM modified at 01:00:37 on 92/07/22 GMT (by AMXD031 at OS2CUST) Subject: Loss of Sync - DOS app. w/SVGA System is a 386, 40MHZ, with a Diamond Speedstar SVGA card, OS2 2.0 with current fixes for SVGA, and "SVGA ON". Running Quatro Pro version 4.0, optioned for above SVGA card in SVGA in a DOS full screen session. The application executes in SVGA mode without problems until control is returned to the OS/2 desktop. Returning to the application results in an out of sync video display. I would guess that there isn't a mechanism for DOS applications to indicate to OS/2 which video state they were in, so the return (to the app) state is whatever OS/2 was in last. Yes/No? Is this the way it is designed? Spreadsheets are sure nice to read at 132x44! Jon Androvich American Express Phoenix, AZ 7/21 - The solution to the above situation is to do an "orderly" exit (DOS shell) to VDM and then ctl-esc to WPS rather than ctl-esc directly from the application. In this way the application retains "responsibility" for restoring the video mode on the return. It seems this may be required with other applications where VIDEO CHANGE NOTIFICATION doesn't work.JA ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 16:52:39 on 92/07/08 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 Stalling and Poor Performance Ref: Append at 18:52:57 on 92/06/15 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) I have had the same problem and reported it to phone support immediately. My initial (free) support expired, without any real interest in this bug. I subscribed to this service to continue persuing this defect, and more than 3 weeks later, I still haven't any more information beyond what I myself have discovered, and now what I've read in this thread. I'm willing to do most any- thing to get this repaired, as it apparently affects the stability of the entire system - and gets worse as time goes on... Chris Knoell (MGH) ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 16:26:53 on 92/07/09 GMT (by XXBELLA5 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Problem with the START command? I have created a directory into which I have 2 objects: an EXE and an ICO. Using the program setting of the EXE I have associated the ICO to the EXE. The EXE is called CM000S00.exe and the ICO is called CM000S00.ICO. When I start the EXE with the Command START CM000S00, I can see at the bottom of the screen the ICON associated with the EXE, but the Title under it is CM000S00.EXE. If I do start it with START "SCHEDULER" CM000S00, I see at the bottom of the screen my new Title, but the OS/2 folder ICON is now associated to it. This used to work under OS/2 1.3, Am I doing something wrong? Is there a solution to this? This appears to be a problem to me. Pierre Gosselin Bell Canada, Montreal 514-870-3627 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 20:34:14 on 92/07/09 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Subject: Survey - Stalling & Poor Performance Survey - Stalling when Launching Program Object and overall Poor Performance ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On 06/09/92, I reported the poor performance and stalling condition that was exhibited while operating OS/2 2.0 on the OS2-BBS. I also requested if others also have had this problem. I received many replys. Some stated they had the problem but were trying different fixes to solve the problem. It also appears that many of you have tried to report this problem to IBM but have not had any resolution forth coming. I too have reported this problem to the IBM OS/2 support for the past two months. After persistent calling I was able to make connections to the OS/2 support team. They have yet to admit that this problem exsit. They seem to feel that it is a very isolated problem. If anyone should call the 1 800 237-551 IBM support number, with the stalling problem, you should tell them that you have the same problem as reported on PMR 6X856. It took a bit of work but it seems that the support team will be examining this problem more closely. On 07/10/92 they will try to locate the cause or source of this problem. The Level 2 team has sent me a Remote Kernel Debugger program. With this program they will be able to monitor the computer and hopefully locate the fault. One IBM Support team personal, which will remain nameless, had the gall to tell me that if I was not satisfied with OS/2 2.0, I could get my money back. That brings back the memories of the Old IBM. The interesting thing about this problem is that it happens on IBM PS/2 machines. After IBM completes its testing I will display the results on the OS2-BBS. What would be a big help is if anyone else who has had this problem could Email me their system configuration. Please include you model and manufacturer of the computer system. Also, it is important that you include the memory type and the vendor of all adapters in the system. I will then submit this information to the IBM OS/2 support team. I would also like to know if anyone else, who has had this problem, has resolved this condition. How did you do it? From what I see, I don't believe IBM realizes or wants to accept how many systems have this problem. They even said that they don't or can't support third party adapters for OS/2. OS/2 2.0 is a terrific and powerful operating system but IBM must acknowledge the problems that users have found. If they deny the exsistance of the numerious bugs in OS/2, IBM, will force the many users and non users of OS/2 to Windows or NT. IBM should list on the OS2-BBS, a list of all known and reported problems found in OS/2 2.0. They should also display their current status on each problem. I get tried of recreating the wheel. It makes everyone report the same problem endlessly. They other problem seems that the customers (us) who use OS/2 are able to locate the bug but the IBMers seem to say they don't exist. Well, I think I said enough for now............ Jerry Sitbon (718) 357-4369 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 21:31:45 on 92/07/09 GMT (by V$ISTEAR at AUSVM8) Subject: Survey - Stalling & Poor Performance Ref: Append at 20:34:14 on 92/07/09 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Jerry, I read your remarks and was curious to see where your PMR stood. It has certainly had a lot of activity and personal attention from our IBM support. From our database I pulled a total of 9 PMR's on your name and this problem. It appears that you have had a number of OEM hardware problems that have slowed the resolution process. We are working hard to give all of our customers the support they need and deserve. We do have a volume of calls each day with a product as new and aggressive as OS/2. Thankfully, we are responding to ALL of our calls and solving hundreds of problems and questions each day. Due to the fact that there are so many OEM machines out there with every sort of configuration, and we are supporting most, we have a few problems that need to be addressed on an individual basis, such as yours. Be patient with us and know that we are working long hours to provide you with the answers you need. Terah Stearns IBM OS/2 Service and Support, Austin TX ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 21:48:13 on 92/07/09 GMT (by ZUBER at RALVMN) Subject: Survey - Stalling & Poor Performance Ref: Append at 20:34:14 on 92/07/09 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) This probably will not help everyone who has the hesitating problem, but if it helps one of you then at least one person will be happy... My PS/2 M80 here at work would pause to do anything on the desktop. Later, I had a totally unrelated hardware problem for which I called the 1(800)IBM-SERV number for. When the CE was working on the problem she noticed that the non-cached SCSI card in my machine was one that had a mandatory EC (hardware update) issued for it when using OS/2 2.0. She replaced the card. No approval was necessary as it was a no cost fix. I assume that would apply to any customer, internal or external. The performance may still be slow when frantic paging is going on when switching to a task that has been paged out, but now the system *responds* to mouse actions. I would say it cut my frustration level 90%. If you have a non-cached SCSI card and are experiencing hesitation for no apparent reason, I would highly recommend pursuing this hardware fix. I am sorry that I don't have a number for you to reference, but just knowing that it exists may be the right key to finding out if it applies to you. Clyde Zuber ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 13:13:23 on 92/07/10 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Subject: Survey - Stalling & Poor Performance Ref: Append at 21:48:13 on 92/07/09 GMT (by ZUBER at RALVMN) If anyone has an IBM Non-cached SCSI adapter in a Model 80, check the FRU number located on the card. If it has the following number FRU 15F6561, it should be replaced. Call IBM at 1 800 IBM SERV, Ask for Hardware change ECA-032. The replacement card number should be marked FRU 85F002. In most cases there is no charge for this change. I recommend that when the card is replaced that you check the new card. Some older card still exist in IBM stock. This card will fix a timing and performance problem but it does not solve the random stalling problem. Jerry Sitbon (718) 357-4369 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 13:48:33 on 92/07/10 GMT (by NAAG8T6 at OS2CUST) Subject: Startup Sequence 1. Is it true that STARTUP.CMD always starts before the Startup Folder? 2. Within the STARTUP folder, what is the sequence of execution (i.e., starting execution) of the icons? 3. What manual documents the above? Bruce Ferrero (Aetna) ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 14:28:23 on 92/07/10 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Startup Sequence Ref: Append at 13:48:33 on 92/07/10 GMT (by NAAG8T6 at OS2CUST) 1. Yes, it starts BUT if it is a long startup.cmd (I start requester, ser server, logon.) than the Startup folser joins to the active too. 2. I'm looking for this answer too. 3. ??? It's from experience. Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 14:38:17 on 92/07/10 GMT (by GRANTC at BCRVM5) Subject: Survey - Stalling & Poor Performance Ref: Append at 20:34:14 on 92/07/09 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Carl Grant IBM ********************************************************************* GetCSDLevel - Could not open c:\os2\install\syslevel.os2 CSD file Operating System: OS/2 Standard Edition Version 2.00 CSD Level Date & Time : 05/26/1992 10:57:47 ROM Copyright : COPR IBM 1981 1987 Product Number : 8580-071 Model ID : F8 Sub-Model ID : 00 BIOS Date : °@ Machine Type : IBM PS/2 Model 80 (16Mhz) Processor : Intel 80386 Processor Speed : 16 Mhz CoProcessor : None Bus Type : Micro Channel 32-Bit Bus Equipment : 1 Parallel Port(s) : 1 Serial Port(s) : 2 Diskette Drive(s) : 2 Fixed Disk(s) Serial Port 1 : COM1: 1200 bps, 7 Data Bits, Even Parity, 1 Stop bit. Keyboard Type : 101/102 Key Enhanced Keyboard (ID AB41) Current Video : VGA Video Memory : 256K Current Display : PS/2 Color Display 8512/8513/8515 Diskette Drive 1: 3.50" - 1.44M - 80 Track - Type 4 Diskette Drive 2: 3.50" - 1.44M - 80 Track - Type 4 Fixed Disk 1 : 70 MB = 71680 KB = 73400320 bytes : Cylinders= 70 Sectors=32 Heads=64 Total Sectors=143360 Fixed Disk 2 : 639 MB = 654336 KB = 670040064 bytes : Cylinders= 639 Sectors=32 Heads=64 Total Sectors=1308672 Logical Drive C : Size 32670K = 31.9M Avail 2958K = 2.8M : Total Units 16335 Avail Units 1479 Total Sectors 65340 : Sectors/Unit 4 Bytes/Sector 512 : Local Drive - File System is FAT : Volume Label is IBMDOS_5 Logical Drive D : Size 604144K = 589.9M Avail 534912K = 522.3M : Total Units 1208288 Avail Units 1069825 Total Sectors 1208288 : Sectors/Unit 1 Bytes/Sector 512 : Local Drive - File System is HPFS : Volume Label is OS2 Logical Drive E : Size 32670K = 31.9M Avail 7384K = 7.2M : Total Units 16335 Avail Units 3692 Total Sectors 65340 : Sectors/Unit 4 Bytes/Sector 512 : Local Drive - File System is FAT : Volume Label is DOS400 Logical Drive Z : Size 306160K = 298.9M Avail 61658K = 60.2M : Total Units 612320 Avail Units 123316 Total Sectors 612320 : Sectors/Unit 1 Bytes/Sector 512 : Remote Drive - File System is LAN : Volume Label is MAX Total Memory : 10240 KB = 10.0 MB Conventional : 640 KB Extended Memory : 9600 KB Planar : ID FEFF Total Slots : 8 System (DISK) : 1 User Slots : 7 Expansion Slot 1: * No Adapter Present Expansion Slot 2: * No Adapter Present Expansion Slot 3: ID E001 - IBM 16/4Mb Token Ring Adapter/A : Enabled - POS Data = C1 24 C8 C0 SubAddr 0000 : Int Level 2 IO Addr A20-A23 RAM Mem Addr C0000-C1FFF : ROM Mem Addr C8000-C9FFF Primary Adapter : Adapter Speed = 4 Mbps : Adapter Address = FFFFFFFFFFFF Expansion Slot 4: ID FDDF - IBM Enhanced Memory Adapter 80386 : Enabled - POS Data = FF 02 00 FF SubAddr 00FF Expansion Slot 5: * No Adapter Present Expansion Slot 6: ID EF7F - IBM Display Adapter 8514/A : Enabled - POS Data = 01 FF FF FF SubAddr FFFF Expansion Slot 7: ID 8EFF - IBM PS/2 SCSI Adapter with Cache : Enabled - POS Data = C1 FC 02 FF SubAddr FFFF Expansion Slot 8: ID DDFF - IBM ESDI Fixed Disk Controller : Enabled - POS Data = 55 15 FF FF SubAddr FFFF --- QSYSTEM Ver 1.03 (Aug 5 1991) by Jeff Muir (C) Copyright 1990 --- ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 15:16:39 on 92/07/10 GMT (by GRANTC at BCRVM5) Subject: Survey - Stalling & Poor Performance Ref: Append at 20:34:14 on 92/07/09 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Carl Grant IBM I have the same problem you are experiencing on a PS/2 M80 on my IBM work machine. I called in PMR 6X856 to IBM Service this morning to link my problem report number. I have a call in to get Remote Kernel Debugger installed on my machine at IBM Boca site. My hardware configuration follows. I have upgraded from a down level IBM SCSI adapter w/o cache, to latest EC level IBM SCSI adapter w/o cache, to latest EC level IBM SCSI adapter with cache without fixing performance problem. In addition, I had IBM service upgrade planar and ESDI adapter to latest EC level without fixing problem. ********************************************************************* Operating System: OS/2 Standard Edition Version 2.00 CSD Level Date & Time : 05/26/1992 10:57:47 ROM Copyright : COPR IBM 1981 1987 Product Number : 8580-071 Model ID : F8 Sub-Model ID : 00 BIOS Date : °@ Machine Type : IBM PS/2 Model 80 (16Mhz) Processor : Intel 80386 Processor Speed : 16 Mhz CoProcessor : None Bus Type : Micro Channel 32-Bit Bus Equipment : 1 Parallel Port(s) : 1 Serial Port(s) : 2 Diskette Drive(s) : 2 Fixed Disk(s) Serial Port 1 : COM1: 1200 bps, 7 Data Bits, Even Parity, 1 Stop bit. Keyboard Type : 101/102 Key Enhanced Keyboard (ID AB41) Current Video : VGA Video Memory : 256K Current Display : PS/2 Color Display 8512/8513/8515 Diskette Drive 1: 3.50" - 1.44M - 80 Track - Type 4 Diskette Drive 2: 3.50" - 1.44M - 80 Track - Type 4 Fixed Disk 1 : 70 MB = 71680 KB = 73400320 bytes : Cylinders= 70 Sectors=32 Heads=64 Total Sectors=143360 Fixed Disk 2 : 639 MB = 654336 KB = 670040064 bytes : Cylinders= 639 Sectors=32 Heads=64 Total Sectors=1308672 Logical Drive C : Size 32670K = 31.9M Avail 2958K = 2.8M : Total Units 16335 Avail Units 1479 Total Sectors 65340 : Sectors/Unit 4 Bytes/Sector 512 : Local Drive - File System is FAT : Volume Label is IBMDOS_5 Logical Drive D : Size 604144K = 589.9M Avail 534912K = 522.3M : Total Units 1208288 Avail Units 1069825 Total Sectors 1208288 : Sectors/Unit 1 Bytes/Sector 512 : Local Drive - File System is HPFS : Volume Label is OS2 Logical Drive E : Size 32670K = 31.9M Avail 7384K = 7.2M : Total Units 16335 Avail Units 3692 Total Sectors 65340 : Sectors/Unit 4 Bytes/Sector 512 : Local Drive - File System is FAT : Volume Label is DOS400 Logical Drive Z : Size 306160K = 298.9M Avail 61658K = 60.2M : Total Units 612320 Avail Units 123316 Total Sectors 612320 : Sectors/Unit 1 Bytes/Sector 512 : Remote Drive - File System is LAN : Volume Label is MAX Total Memory : 10240 KB = 10.0 MB Conventional : 640 KB Extended Memory : 9600 KB Planar : ID FEFF Total Slots : 8 System (DISK) : 1 User Slots : 7 Expansion Slot 1: * No Adapter Present Expansion Slot 2: * No Adapter Present Expansion Slot 3: ID E001 - IBM 16/4Mb Token Ring Adapter/A : Enabled - POS Data = C1 24 C8 C0 SubAddr 0000 : Int Level 2 IO Addr A20-A23 RAM Mem Addr C0000-C1FFF : ROM Mem Addr C8000-C9FFF Primary Adapter : Adapter Speed = 4 Mbps : Adapter Address = FFFFFFFFFFFF Expansion Slot 4: ID FDDF - IBM Enhanced Memory Adapter 80386 : Enabled - POS Data = FF 02 00 FF SubAddr 00FF Expansion Slot 5: * No Adapter Present Expansion Slot 6: ID EF7F - IBM Display Adapter 8514/A : Enabled - POS Data = 01 FF FF FF SubAddr FFFF Expansion Slot 7: ID 8EFF - IBM PS/2 SCSI Adapter with Cache : Enabled - POS Data = C1 FC 02 FF SubAddr FFFF Expansion Slot 8: ID DDFF - IBM ESDI Fixed Disk Controller : Enabled - POS Data = 55 15 FF FF SubAddr FFFF --- QSYSTEM Ver 1.03 (Aug 5 1991) by Jeff Muir (C) Copyright 1990 --- ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 19:32:21 on 92/07/10 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) Subject: vcdrom.sys documentation Where might I find documentation on vcdrom.sys...? I have searched all of the online documentation files that I have and cannot seem to find anything. Lionel Dyck - Rockwell International, Information Systems Center ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 22:15:19 on 92/07/10 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8) Subject: Survey - Stalling & Poor Performance Ref: Append at 20:34:14 on 92/07/09 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Jerry, I hope this doesn't offend you, but... I took a look at the PMR you mentioned. The problem as described in the PMR and the actions taken are probably the same I would. I can't vouche for the phone conversations and what was said to you. I can assure you that your problem is unusual (they don't send the kernel debugger to very many people) and my first impression is also that it is some sort of strange hardware problem either with the mother board, your unusual memory chips, or the disk controller. No one is attempting to deny the existence of defects in OS/2, in your case or any other. It is simply that in our experience to date with problems such as this they do turn out to be hardware problems 95% of the time (not 100%) and finding the other 5% that are defects is extremely difficult. I must assume you misunderstood whomever you thought said that IBM does not support OEM adapters. We do support a large number, have fixes and updates available for others, and even have a special group in Boca that do nothing but work with OEM hardware and manufacturers. Even the new people on Support Line know this. Does IBM support every OEM adapter made in the world? Not yet, but the major ones are supported. Again, I can't verify what was said but I feel strongly that there must have been a misunderstanding. As far as a list of all known defects and their status, this would be larger than all of the appends in all of the BBS forums to date and fairly useless as just a list. It would be very difficult to find anything and be out of date by the time it is created. However, I believe everyone on this BBS has access to a much more useful form of the complete list of all known problems and their status. For the individual BBS customers, it is the "Search Service" on the first menu after they logon to IBMLink. For "regular" IBMLink customers and WSTC's, each has some version of "SERVICELINK" or Search Service to search the IBMLink libraries. All known OS/2 problems are reported here. Verified ones are APAR'ed. Suspected ones and customer problems are in the TECHQ&A library as well as these BBS forums. There are no secrets kept. You can find out about any and all OS/2 problems known to IBM. I am sorry that you are disatisfied with OS/2 and the fact that OS/2 Support has not been able to pin down your very unusual problem. And yes, after a certain point if we cannot get a customer's system working to their liking we do offer to give their money back. Not because we don't want to pursue the problem, this is done just in case this is actually what the customer wants. Stephen Poole OS/2 Service and Support - IBM Austin, TX ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 22:30:21 on 92/07/10 GMT (by AMXD031 at OS2CUST) Subject: Survey - Stalling & Poor Performance Ref: Append at 14:38:17 on 92/07/10 GMT (by GRANTC at BCRVM5) Point of interest: With the exception of the size of the second hard disk and my system having only an ESDI adapter, it is identical to this. Throughall levels of OS/2 2.0, including GA, there has never been a stalling problem. Appears to be associated with SCSI adapters, yes? Jon Androvich ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 12:26:42 on 92/07/13 GMT (by GREENWD at HOUVMSCC) Subject: OS/2 2.0 Stalling or Lockup when lunching an Object Ref: Append at 17:39:06 on 92/06/09 GMT (by GREENWD at HOUVMSCC) OK - Finally go a new Memory board. I replaced the Kingston KTM 16000/ 386 with an IBM board. No more problems with OS/2 hanging up. I still don't know if the problem is with the IBM hardware, the Kingston board, or with OS/2. I can see where customers would be a little miffed with IBM if they find out OS/2 needs and IBM memory board to run on their system. Bruce Greenwood FSC, Houston, TX ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 13:22:10 on 92/07/13 GMT (by PERSHNG at YKTVMH) Subject: Survey - Stalling & Poor Performance Ref: Append at 22:30:21 on 92/07/10 GMT (by AMXD031 at OS2CUST) Not necessarily. I've experienced the "stalling problem" occasionally on my very old 8580-071. I was told that the ESDI 15F6587 controller was replaced with part number 92F0062. I haven't opened up my box yet to check, but I'm sure (from the vintage of the box) that I must have the original part. John A. Pershing Jr. ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 13:27:06 on 92/07/13 GMT (by PERSHNG at YKTVMH) Subject: OS/2 2.0 Stalling or Lockup when lunching an Object Ref: Append at 12:26:42 on 92/07/13 GMT (by GREENWD at HOUVMSCC) Well, it's not necessarily *IBM* memory that is required; rather, it seems to require memory that is absolutely, positively, 100% up to specifications. I have heard (internally) about numerous cases where all of the memory on a box passed all of the "diagnostics" and ran DOS just fine, but would get random hits when running OS/2 (this goes back to the original Version 1 of OS/2, by the way). Invariably, these problems were traced to marginal memory components, and the problems went away when the marginal components were replaced. If the hardware spec calls for certain latencies and cycle times and the memory can't deliver, then you can hardly blame OS/2... John A. Pershing Jr. ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 14:29:55 on 92/07/13 GMT (by IL26761 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 2.0 Stalling or Lockup when lunching an Object Ref: Append at 12:26:42 on 92/07/13 GMT (by GREENWD at HOUVMSCC) Bruce, I don't believe it has to be IBM memory, but the memory definently has to meet specifications. I have been following many posts on the NSC BBS & Prodigy about the problem, and have seen many examples of problems caused by either marginal memory, or situations where folks have mixed memory speeds and simms types and getting everything into line fixes the problems. Every thing I have ever read or heard is that it is a no-no to mix memory speeds, but it's amazing how many folks were doing that and getting away with it under DOS. Jack Hiatt MARC-Life Atlanta Ga. ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 18:28:21 on 92/07/13 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST) Subject: Survey - Stalling & Poor Performance Ref: Append at 20:34:14 on 92/07/09 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) My configuration: Hewlett Packard RS/25C (25MHz 386) BIOS: E.02.06 (Same as IBM testing Lab) 10 MB Memory Paradise/HP VGA Video (8-bit mode) Adaptec SCSI (1542) BIOS: 3.11N Rev. B Hewlett Packard 1.2 GB Hard Drive (SCSI) This machine has PASSED the IBM testing for clones, the same model and BIOS. FAT works ok, and using multiple partitions allows for proper installation with HPFS - but the system seems to become less stable every day. I know how you must feel - I put in my first report of INSTALLATION problem a full month prior to yours, with no satisfaction. Support only told me NOT to use HPFS - and to use multiple partitions on my disk - not one. Have you tried to install with the new kernel that fixes the other swapfile problem? I want to use HPFS with Lan Server on my machine - but can't seem to get off to a good start... Chris Knoell (MGH) ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 20:14:12 on 92/07/13 GMT (by AMXD031 at OS2CUST) Subject: Survey - Stalling & Poor Performance Ref: Append at 13:22:10 on 92/07/13 GMT (by PERSHNG at YKTVMH) I do have the early ESDI controller, also in a VERY old 8580-071, but so far no stalling under OS/2 2. Jon Androvich ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 02:26:09 on 92/07/14 GMT (by NAAG8T6 at OS2CUST) Subject: Survey - Stalling & Poor Performance Ref: Append at 22:15:19 on 92/07/10 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8) Stephen, In general, many customers will not know without poking around inside the machine (and maybe not then) if they have components which don't meet specs, such as mismatched memory chips. Would it be possible to include with OS/2 a set of utilities which are known to run properly on 'valid' systems but which will (after running long enough, perhaps) break systems which have given hardware problems? In other words, some system-stress diagnostic programs which can be run after OS/2 is installed, to try and detect hardware incompatibilities up-front, as opposed to finding them at some unknown future time. Just a suggestion. Bruce Ferrero (Aetna) ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 16:01:05 on 92/07/14 GMT (by IL61500 at OS2CUST) Subject: ErrorLevel supported? Does anyone know if the Errorlevel commands are supported in .CMD files under O S2 1.3? If not how can a batch file be written to GOTO specific batch file loca tions based on user keypress? Thanks... Lou LOU BREIT, DEAN WITTER REYNOLDS ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 18:48:43 on 92/07/14 GMT (by NORD at BCRVMPC1) Subject: ErrorLevel supported? Ref: Append at 16:01:05 on 92/07/14 GMT (by IL61500 at OS2CUST) Sounds like one I can take a shot at... Yes, errorlevel is supported in OS/2 .cmd files. Use is the same as in DOS .bat files. It sounds like you're already familiar with the DOS errorlevel programming constructs. (Say looking for 'Y') (* Warning, code not checked for errors *) @echo off echo Please enter Y [run some keystroke program that returns ascii code as RC] if errorlevel 90 goto above if errorlevel 89 goto GotY echo user input was below ASCII 89 goto done :GotY echo User entered a ASCII 89 ('Y') goto done :above echo user input was above ASCII 89 goto done :done While the errorlevel constructs work as in DOS, you might prefer to use the REXX interpreter. /* */ say 'Please enter a Y' pull InputSt /* Pull string from keyboard */ ch = substr(InputSt, 1, 1) /* keep only the first char */ if (ch = 'Y') then /* See if it is a 'Y' */ say 'User entered a Y' else say 'User entered:' ch /* Not a Y, display what it was */ exit REXX exists in both OS/2 1.3 and OS/2 2.0. Useful references (IBM Mechanicsburg part numbers) OS/2 Technical Library Procedures Language/2 REXX Reference OS/2 Technical Library Procedures Language/2 REXX User's Guide (Doc numbers: S01F-6268-00 and S01F-6269-00 ---- OS/2 2.0) S01F-0271-00 and S01F-0272-00 ---- OS/2 1.3) (I'd say you only need the 2.0 version) Have fun Joe Nord ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 19:24:12 on 92/07/14 GMT (by IL61500 at OS2CUST) Subject: ERRORLEVEL IN OS/2? THIS IS A THANK YOU TO JOE NORD. I APPRECIATE YOUR QUICK RESPONSE. MUCH OBLIGED, LOU LOU BREIT, DEAN WITTER REYNOLDS ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 21:58:24 on 92/07/14 GMT (by NAAO3IY at OS2CUST) Subject: ERRORLEVEL IN OS/2? Ref: Append at 19:24:12 on 92/07/14 GMT (by IL61500 at OS2CUST) Note that you also have the option of using REXX, where ERRORLEVEL should turn up in variable RC. If you are sophisticated enough to be using ERRORLEVEL, then the odds are that a few days studying REXX would be worth the investment of time. However, ERRORLEVEL works fine. John Kennedy, Hoechst Celanese ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 12:37:57 on 92/07/15 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Subject: Survey Status Report (Stalling & Poor Performance) I am happy to report that IBM has acknowledged that there is a problem with some computer systems stalling while operating OS/2 2.0. In fact, I was able to demonstrate the system stalling to IBM. They where kind enough to bring an IBM memory adapter to temporarily swap with my original board. With the IBM memory adapter board installed NO stalling or hanging up occurred. From these results in would appear that OS/2 2.0 is handling memory differently then in past operating systems. But I have more good news. Even though the source of the problem appears to be the memory board, IBM is not letting it end there. They are going to investigate the problem further. I have been requested to send the suspected memory board to IBM. They will be setting up a system using this board and try to locate the cause of the problem. Hopefully they will find a solution. They realize that there are many PS/2 computers that have third party memory adapters installed. To those who feel that the memory problem only appears on machines with so called marginal or poor quality memory adapters, I take personal offence. I personally have contacted the memory vendor Xtend and they are standing behind their product. In fact, they are going to work directly with IBM to try to resolve this problem. Would you call Kingston Memory Products a second rate company? Most of these adapters worked correctly under OS/2 1.3, DOS and MS-Windows. Let's not make our systems incompatible by asking for programs to stress test the systems. For OS/2 2.0 to be successful it must operate on a broad system platform. Please know that without all your help and feed back I would never have been able to achieve the support needed. Thank you all. I believe that IBM will come up with a solution for this problem. I must admit, while it took a bit of work, I am very impressed with the service I am now receiving. If anyone has this stalling problem it is very important that you report it and specify the vendor of your adapters. As I learn more I will post it on the OS2-BBS. Jerry Sitbon (718) 357-4369 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 16:14:02 on 92/07/15 GMT (by PERSHNG at YKTVMH) Subject: Survey Status Report (Stalling & Poor Performance) Ref: Append at 12:37:57 on 92/07/15 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Note that "marginal components" is not the same as "poor quality". If the chips are rated at a nominal 85 ns and are delivering 86 ns (or 85.5 ns), then they are "marginal" but not necessarily poor quality. In fact, it could be argued that chips that deliver exactly 85 ns are also marginal, since they are sitting exactly *on* the margin of the performance spec. If the chips are delivering a performance of 70 ns, then they are definitily *not* marginal for an 85 ns adapter, but they are also probably over-engineered (and, therefore, likely to be over-priced) for an adapter spec'ed at 85 ns. In a commodity market (such as PC memory), *everybody* has to make price/performance tradeoffs, from IBM all the way down to the smallest parts supplier that you can find. Also, when you are cranking out thousands of these chips, there are practical limits to how many times you can test each and every chip with all possible memory reference patterns. From what I've heard internally (mostly with IBM boards and memory, by the way), these "marginal" chips pass all of the normal diagnostics with flying colors, and run DOS just fine. There is simply something different about the way that OS/2 uses (abuses?) memory that causes the intermittent failures. Note, also, that components change somewhat with age, so that a chip that works just fine today may be pushing the limits of the spec in a year. In the case of the memory cards, it appears the problem is exacerbated due to OS/2 "pushing the limits of the spec" from the other side. I'm happy to hear that my colleagues in OS/2-Land are going to dig into this a bit deeper. (If they "fix" it, then I can take the 70 ns parts out of my 85 ns machine and go back to the 85 ns parts :-) John A. Pershing Jr. ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 19:03:59 on 92/07/15 GMT (by BCHI052 at OS2CUST) Subject: SHUTDOWN & LOCKUP from an icon Is there a way to invoke "Shutdown" and "Lockup now" from an icon or CMD file? Gerald Sasaoka - Hawaii Medical Service Association ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 00:31:25 on 92/07/16 GMT (by IL26761 at OS2CUST) Subject: SHUTDOWN & LOCKUP from an icon Ref: Append at 19:03:59 on 92/07/15 GMT (by BCHI052 at OS2CUST) I know it is possible to shutdown from an icon, i found a shareware app on one of the BBSes that does just that. It was on the OS/2 Shareware BBS in Va. but is probably on others by now. Jack Hiatt MARC-Life Atlanta Ga. ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 04:41:20 on 92/07/16 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Survey Status Report (Stalling & Poor Performance) Ref: Append at 16:14:02 on 92/07/15 GMT (by PERSHNG at YKTVMH) John, this might be a very naive question, but what exactly does "stalling" under OS2 mean? I too have an older mod 80 in the office. It is pretty standard with 8meg of RAM that came with it. There are two non-IBM additions: an HP scanner adapter, and a non-scsi large fixed disk (which I added a couple of months ago). This machine doesn't work like my mod 70-486 which has as its 2nd large fixed disk an IBM SCSI in a floor enclosure. The 80 works slower, and sometimes it takes a long time for a program to load from the 2nd drive. It is quite different than the way the mod 70 works! I attributed the 80's "slowness" to its older clock speed, and the lack of a SCSI interface. I'm generally running the same software on both machines, so I tend to compare what's happening. Reading your comments have made me wonder, if what is happening is not a function of the hardware differences - but that I need to replace some of the orignal mod 80 "innards" since I'm now running OS2 exclusively on that machine! I appreciate your comments on this. Elliott M. Avedon University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1 (519) 885-1211 x2204 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 05:59:17 on 92/07/16 GMT (by RMERGLER at HOUVMSCC) Subject: Survey Status Report (Stalling & Poor Performance) Ref: Append at 04:41:20 on 92/07/16 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Elliot, in the case of Bruce Grrenwood's machine, the symptom was that the various apps would be running at a normal speed and that the keyboard was responding in a normal fashion. At apparently random times (but with somewhat greater frequency during the OS/2 bootup process from seeing the logo till all windows had opened and apps in Startup were available), the keyboard would lock up and the apps would appear to pause. In Bruce's case, the disk drive LED would light and stay lit for approx. a minute. Then the light would go out and the system would be back to normal including reactivating the keyboard. One rare occasions, the pause would be two or three minutes. It was not evident whether the disk LED lit up just before or after the pause nor was it evident whether there was some manually invoked disk I/O (remember that OS/2 can do disk I/O for its own purposes). Ralph Mergler ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 11:48:00 on 92/07/16 GMT (by XXCDSX26 at TORVMCOP) Subject: SHUTDOWN & LOCKUP from an icon Ref: Append at 00:31:25 on 92/07/16 GMT (by IL26761 at OS2CUST) Jack: If the program you saw is the 1.x one that does a DosShutdown I have a problem with it - it causes the machine to go to BigWhiteSwitch heaven. Using MSC6 CVP the program executes DosShutDown(0L) but never comes out. I have reported this to IBM a while back. Michael Harper - Cdn Depository for Securities, Ltd ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 12:37:09 on 92/07/16 GMT (by IL26761 at OS2CUST) Subject: SHUTDOWN & LOCKUP from an icon Ref: Append at 11:48:00 on 92/07/16 GMT (by XXCDSX26 at TORVMCOP) Michael, I have the original down load stuff on my machine at home so can't check the details but the load mod is dated 6/26/92. I have installed it on 3 different machines and have had no problems with it what so ever. Does a nice clean shutdown each and every time it is used. Jack Hiatt MARC-Life Atlanta Ga. ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 13:38:45 on 92/07/16 GMT (by GOBEILLE at WSCVM) Subject: SHUTDOWN & LOCKUP from an icon Ref: Append at 12:37:09 on 92/07/16 GMT (by IL26761 at OS2CUST) I've had the shutdown hang once on one system, but it's worked fine on every other one (and I've never had the hang repeat on the first system). I love having a 'big red switch' on my desktop screen now (*grin*). (And yes, I got the shutdown programs from Pete's OS/2 Shareware BBS too). Janet Gobeille - Washington Systems Center ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 14:30:49 on 92/07/16 GMT (by BTTUCKER at ATLVM1) Subject: ErrorLevel supported? Ref: Append at 16:01:05 on 92/07/14 GMT (by IL61500 at OS2CUST) /* do it in REXX */ Say 'What do you want to do?' pull answer select answer when 'PROCESS1' then do call process1 exit end /* Do */ when 'PROCESS2' then do call process2 exit end /* Do */ otherwise do say 'I did not understand you. Please try again.' exit(100) end /* Do */ end /* select */ exit /* superfluous */ process1: procedure /* code here... */ return process2: procedure /* similarily, more code */ return exit /* again, superfluous....*/ BT ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 14:49:49 on 92/07/16 GMT (by PERSHNG at YKTVMH) Subject: Survey Status Report (Stalling & Poor Performance) Ref: Append at 04:41:20 on 92/07/16 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) The stalling problem appears to be due to certain back-level disk controllers (see the thread titled "Stalling or Lockup when lunching an Object" in this FORUM). My experience is that this problem comes and goes: it didn't occur on my machine (an original Model-80) for a long time, but I've been hit by it about a half-dozen times in the past couple of days. I was told by another IBMer that part number 15F6587 was replaced by part number 92F0062 -- I believe that this is the ESDI disk controller card. There was a similar upgrade for early SCSI cards. The symptom of the "Stalling or Lockup when lunching an Object" problem (at least on my machine) is that you double-click on an icon to launch an application, the window opens, and then the sytem "locks up" for a minute or two. The cursor tracks the mouse, but keystrokes and mouse clicks do nothing (as it turns out, they get stacked, and will be honored when the system un-locks after a minute or two). I run the PULSE application in the corner, and it shows 100% CPU utilization during this period. Indeed, the old Model-80s are slow: 16 Mhz, no cache, and a slow disk. My machine spends all day swapping itself to death (I've "only" got 10 Megs of RAM, and tend to overload the system with Communications Manager, Net Requester, TCP/IP, CorelDRAW, Epsilon, bitmaps behind my desktop and behind a couple of commonly-used folders, and an occasional weather map. One of these days, I would like to upgrade to the Model-95 with 16 Megs and a cached SCSI controller... John A. Pershing Jr. ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 15:57:56 on 92/07/16 GMT (by BRYAN at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Survey Status Report (Stalling & Poor Performance) Ref: Append at 14:49:49 on 92/07/16 GMT (by PERSHNG at YKTVMH) There is a definite "stalling and poor performance" problem that may well be linked to disk controllers. We have two 8580-071 systems in adjacent offices, one with the problem and one without. The only obvious difference is that the one performing adequately has one 70MB and one 120MB ESDI drive, and the one performing poorly has one 70MB drive and a SCSI adapter with a 640MB drive. The planar and disk controllers have been replaced on the "poor" one, to no avail. The symptoms are obvious when watching the two systems perform. On the "poor" system... * Opening and closing windows takes six to ten seconds. * Once a day or so the system stalls, taking sometimes 15 minutes to get going again. We have tried swapping memory between the systems, and bringing the systems to identical installed memory. Didn't help. I have the "good" system, with 14MB of RAM on it. I run enough stuff that the swap file is usally between 7-10MB. While I would like a snappier response to mouse clicks, windows respond in not much more than one second. Will keep the forum posted on any progress we make with the "poor" system. Barry Bryan ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 17:33:55 on 92/07/16 GMT (by IL62623 at OS2CUST) Subject: 16MB+ on EISA? I've a 32MB PC EISA PC. How can I tell of OS/2 is seeing all the memory or whether I need to install the gt16mb.zoo patch? ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 17:39:09 on 92/07/16 GMT (by HDEVORE at HOUVMSCC) Subject: Startup Sequence Ref: Append at 14:28:23 on 92/07/10 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) The sequence of startup of things in the STARTUP folder is random unless you have the folder set to some ordered view. Go to your Startup folder and do an Open->Settings on it. At the View tab, change the Icon View to Flowed. At the Sort tab be sure that "Always maintain sort order" is *not* checked. Close the settings notebook and open the Startup folder in Icon view. You can now move the icons around to any order you desire. OS/2 will start them in that order. NOTE, however, that startup is not a *serial* process, but a *parallel* one. What happens is more or less equivalent to having a CMD file with a START command for each application. The START commands go in sequence, but very rapidly. Each application is then on it's own to complete it's own startup in competition for resources with every other application that is starting up. Hal L. DeVore Jr. Space Station DMS Software Development ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 19:30:05 on 92/07/16 GMT (by TSO09 at OS2CUST) Subject: SHUTDOWN & LOCKUP from an icon Ref: Append at 19:03:59 on 92/07/15 GMT (by BCHI052 at OS2CUST) You might want to look at the SETBOOT command. It is documented in the Command Ref. in the Information folder or "help setboot" from OS/2 command prompt. I do not know how it works relative to all the admonitions to shut down gracefully, because it definately does not take any time at all compaired to the WPS shutdown routines. Also it workes in conjuncition with MOST. But we all have it, it just doesn't seem to be well known or understood. Any comments from Boca would be welcome . Ed Klein ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 00:00:55 on 92/07/17 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST) Subject: Survey Status Report (Stalling & Poor Performance) Ref: Append at 12:37:57 on 92/07/15 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Jerry , I see this same performance difference with different brands of memory cards. On two identical model 80's (same bios date, same ESDI roms etc), the unit with the IBM Enhanced 80386 2-14MB adapter will have a faster screen interaction than a unit with the Intel Above Board, especially when closing a window. Mike Long - CARD Iowa State University - PC/LAN Analyst ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 02:05:21 on 92/07/17 GMT (by BCHI052 at OS2CUST) Subject: SHUTDOWN from icon shareware I don't have access to "Pete's OS/2 Shareware BBS". Can the application be made available on the this BBS? Gerald Sasaoka - Hawaii Medical Service Association ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 03:34:22 on 92/07/17 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Survey Status Report (Stalling & Poor Performance) Ref: Append at 05:59:17 on 92/07/16 GMT (by RMERGLER at HOUVMSCC) I watched the mod 80 boot up this afternoon. The LED for the disk drive seems to hang for a bit, but once the WPS icons are on the screen, all seems to work with out incident. As I said, some applications seem to load more slowly than on the mod 70. Thanks for the response. Elliott M. Avedon University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1 (519) 885-1211 x2204 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 04:14:20 on 92/07/17 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Startup Sequence Ref: Append at 17:39:09 on 92/07/16 GMT (by HDEVORE at HOUVMSCC) Thanks. I think I'll keep the cmd file (with the proper order) in the startup.cmd . The LAN must be set up in order. The clock and others can start in any order. Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 11:53:31 on 92/07/17 GMT (by SJGALLA at WASVMIC1) Subject: SHUTDOWN from icon shareware Ref: Append at 02:05:21 on 92/07/17 GMT (by BCHI052 at OS2CUST) Gerald, Norloff's OS/2 Shareware BBS is a public BBS (i.e., not affiliated with IBM). He is located in Fairfax, Virginia ( about 4 miles from my house as a matter of fact ). It is a toll call from where you are, but here's the #: 703-385-4325 One thing to note: Norloff's board is VERY popular ( people call from all over the WORLD ) so the number is OFTEN busy. There is another BBS also in my neighborhood that serves as a "point" off Norloff's board; this means that everything Norloff carries, this guy gets on his board within a day or two. Plus it's a lot easier to dial through without a busy signal ( I signon every night and rarely have a problem): 703-369-0672 Tell him "Gallagher Sent Me!" <g> Steve Gallagher TEAM OS/2 McLean Virginia PRODIGY: HGXG49A Fidonet: steve gallagher at 1:109/136 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 19:14:54 on 92/07/17 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST) Subject: PMCHKDSK never checks I have never been able to use PMCHKDSK.EXE without it abending. I remember hear ing about a problem with CHKDSK but can't recall any details. I am using an Adaptec 340mb drive -- one whopping large partition. PMCHKDSK just doesn't make it. Does the utility have a problem, a problem with the drive, or does it just not work? Dan Lundy Time Customer Service, Inc. Tampa, Fl ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 20:06:38 on 92/07/17 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Subject: PMCHKDSK never checks Ref: Append at 19:14:54 on 92/07/17 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST) Hi Mike, Just shipped my Xtend memory adapter to IBM's OS/2 support center. They also have lent me a 2-14 meg IBM memory adapter board. I personally don't find it to work any faster than the original board but there board doesn't stall on my system. The funny thing about IBM's memory board is that it must see the fixed disk before it can count up the memory while my board would count up at power up. In fact the Xtend board starts faster than IBM's. Until IBM can find out why my board causes the system to stall from time to time, I'm stuck with their adapter. Jerry Sitbon (718) 357-4369 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 21:19:00 on 92/07/17 GMT (by XXVALC01 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Task-Switch Performance I am running OS/2 2.0 on a 486-33 with ATI Graphics Ultra (8514). I do not have the "stalling" problem, but I do notice something strange. When I am in a full-screen Windows application and want to return to the desktop, I can either double-click on the Desktop icon, or I can hit CTRL-ESC. Using the icon always takes 15 seconds, while using CTRL-ESC is always instantaneous. Should they not be the same? Tony Valenti Valcomp Technology Inc. (416) 850-9111 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 21:41:02 on 92/07/17 GMT (by V$IPAULD at BCRVMPC1) Subject: PMCHKDSK never checks Ref: Append at 20:06:38 on 92/07/17 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) The adapter you have been lent by IBM has some if its initialisation code stored on the hard disk. Consequently, it can not count memory until it can read the disk - if you low level format the hard disk you will suddenly find the memory adapter stops working ! Paul Devriendt ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 15:27:09 on 92/07/18 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8) Subject: SHUTDOWN from icon shareware Ref: Append at 02:05:21 on 92/07/17 GMT (by BCHI052 at OS2CUST) Gerald, Please see my append on the subject of Shareware on this BBS in the OS/2 Applications forum (OS2APPS). Stephen Poole OS/2 Service and Support - IBM Austin, TX ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 20:05:58 on 92/07/18 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Subject: SHUTDOWN from icon shareware Ref: Append at 15:27:09 on 92/07/18 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8) Hello Dan, I tested PMCHKDSK and CHKDSK on my system, which has an IBM SCSI controller and a 320 meg drive. Both programs seem to work on my system. Can you tell me how the PMCHKDSK program fails or terminates. It is possible for the CHKDSK program to fail due to the file SWAPPER.DAT. I see the IBM has some new corrective programs that can correct these problems. Any way let me know what you see or don't see. Jerry Sitbon (718) 357-4369 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 03:35:27 on 92/07/20 GMT (by WZ00511 at OS2CUST) Subject: CD'ing to OS!2 2.0 Desktop I hate to ask this question (because it make me feel like an idiot), but now that I have changed my base partition to HPFS I can't find a way to change into the desktop directory (OS!2 2.0 Desktop) from the command line. How do you do it? Brad Bueche NationsBank EUC/Hotline Support Norfolk, VA ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 11:40:42 on 92/07/20 GMT (by DHAIGH at RALVM14) Subject: CD'ing to OS!2 2.0 Desktop Ref: Append at 03:35:27 on 92/07/20 GMT (by WZ00511 at OS2CUST) cd "OS!2 2.0 Desktop" (Note the double quotes) Doug Haigh ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 11:48:52 on 92/07/20 GMT (by XXCDSX26 at TORVMCOP) Subject: PMCHKDSK never checks Ref: Append at 20:06:38 on 92/07/17 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Jerry: The IBM adapter uses track 0 to store some boot information. Don't now why, my Aboveboard doesn't do that. Michael Harper - Cdn Depository for Securities, Ltd ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 13:38:31 on 92/07/20 GMT (by CNADLER at WMAVM1) Subject: CD'ing to OS!2 2.0 Desktop Ref: Append at 03:35:27 on 92/07/20 GMT (by WZ00511 at OS2CUST) Use quotes around the directory name. e.g. CD "OS!2 2.0 Desktop" Cliff Nadler Federal Sector Services Rockville, MD IBM Federal Systems Company PROFS: NADLER at WMAVM7 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 16:48:14 on 92/07/20 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) Subject: CD'ing to OS!2 2.0 Desktop Ref: Append at 13:38:31 on 92/07/20 GMT (by CNADLER at WMAVM1) If you do this often, you can change the name of the Desktop (i.e. to "Desktop") from the drive object. Nathan Davis ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 18:56:43 on 92/07/20 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Subject: Survey More Info (Stalling and Poor Performance) Hello Out there in OS/2 Land: The story continues. My original memory adapter has been temporarly replaced with an IBM 2-14 meg memory adapter with 8 megs installed. This brings my PS/2 80-041 to 10 megs total. With the IBM memory adapter I no longer suffer from the stalling problem. I do not see any improvements as far as the speed of the system. Folders still take 2 to 5 seconds to close. Anyway the first time I installed OS/2 it took over two hours from the time the tutorial showed up till the desktop objects appeared. One of the object, the printer, dissappeared after the system was shut down and restarted. The system was installed under HPFS. At first I thought I did something wrong so I reinstalled OS/2. Each time I installed it the system took a different lenght of time to create the system. Under FAT I did not lose my printer Object but with HPFS I did. Anyway, I now have an offical IBM memory board so I came in on a Saturday, unloaded the entire system. Low leveled the system and installed OS/2. Guess What happened? AT first the system loaded smoothly, migrated MS-Window Clock and installed the 4019 laser printer. Next the system started to setup. The system then rebooted. The blank disktop appeared with the Tutorial, so I read it (25th time). I sat there waiting, and waiting, and waiting for the desktop to appear. After an hour of waiting I CTRL-ALT-DEL the system. The desktop appeared but again no printer object. I will be re-installing OS/2 a few more times. I know that on one pass it will load in six min. after the tutorial appears. I still don't know it the printer icon will remain. IBM called me a few days ago (before I tried to reinstall OS/2) saying that they couldn't reproduce the missing printer problem. Again I ask all of you If you had this problems please let me know so I may relay this to IBM. Otherwise they will fell it is an isolated problem. 1) Long or erratic install time after Tutorial. 2) Missing printer object after reboot on installation. Thanks. Jerry Sitbon (718) 357-4369 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 13:53:28 on 92/07/21 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST) Subject: SHUTDOWN from icon shareware Ref: Append at 20:05:58 on 92/07/18 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Hi Jerry, Thanks for responding! The problem: PMCHKDSK.EXE After the "Check Disk - Results" dialog box appears, the utility runs for about 10 seconds. It then display a message box " Warning!" "The system found file system errors on the disk specified" (OK) is the only option - after which the util returns to the initial dialog box " Check Disk" " <> Write corrections to disk" If I select "write corrections" then select CHECK I receive another msgbox: " Warning!" " The disk is in use or locked by another process" (OK) is the only option. A run of cmdline CHKDSK works but does indicate the "allocation error for the file \OS2\SYSTEM\SWAPPER.DAT". I have the alleged fix but have not applied it (or any of the others). Is this a manifestation of the SWAPPER problem? Thanks in advance Dan Lundy Time Customer Service, Inc. Tampa, Fl ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 14:26:19 on 92/07/21 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Subject: SHUTDOWN from icon shareware Ref: Append at 13:53:28 on 92/07/21 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST) Hi Dan, I know now of the problem you speak of. This is what IBM calls a non problem. This problem shows up in SWAAPPER.DAT when your system is setup in HPFS. The reason you can't use select Corrections is files used by the system are dynamic and can not be acessed. If you'd like to do some house cleaning on the system you can do a CHKDSK C: /F:2 from disk #2 of the installation disks. Basicly you shut down OS/2, Boot on the Installation disk and when you see the screen that says "Welcome to OS/2" press the <ESC> key remove disk and insert disk #2, at the A> prompt type CHKDSK C: /F:2 Next Restart OS/2 from the fixed disk. After the system returns you can try the check disk drive icon again. The problem you original stated is know. The fixes, which I too have not yet applied, are suppose to correct this problem. I will be trying the fixes this week. When I do I will let you know if it cured the problem. So long for now. Jerry Sitbon (718) 357-4369 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 14:26:46 on 92/07/21 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) Subject: OEM System Locked using BASIC/BASICA On non-IBM systems the BASIC and BASICA commands will cause the system to lock so tight that a power-off/power-on is the only way out. I opened a problem (ETR) on IBMLink and just yesterday IBM opened an APAR for this problem. The APAR is PJ04284 in case those who have access to IBMLink want to place this APAR on APAR Status Tracking (AST). Let's hope that IBM solves this problem as it will help to indicate that they are serious about supporting OS/2 on non-IBM hardware.... Lionel Dyck - Rockwell International, Information Systems Center ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 15:15:06 on 92/07/21 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) Subject: Survey More Info (Stalling and Poor Performance) Ref: Append at 18:56:43 on 92/07/20 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) The long install times are definitely a problem! Especially when installing on HPFS partitions. I think the time required to build the desktop is logarithmic WRT the size of the partition. How big is your partition? Have you tried installing on a small (40Meg) partition? Re: missing printer icon. If you Ctrl+Alt+Del before the desktop is shown, stuff will be missing. I assume from your append, however, that during previous installs you let the desktop completely install before shutting down and rebooting. Next time you install OS/2, use a small partition for the operating system and see if the printer icon still disappears. This might help locate the source of the problem. Good luck, Nathan Davis -- IBM FSC - Houston ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 15:19:01 on 92/07/21 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Subject: SHUTDOWN from icon shareware Ref: Append at 13:53:28 on 92/07/21 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST) This is 'normal' for an HPFS system. HPFS.ZIP will fix this problem. If you are on FAT, or even HPFS for that matter, you should really run CHKDSK from diskette to CHKDSK /F the boot drive. CHKDSK can not 'do its thing' if files are OPEN on the drive it is accessing. OS/2 keeps some files, mostly DLL's, SWAPPER.DAT, and IFS files open when running. This has nothing to do with the OS2KRNL fix. Irv Spalten BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 15:23:12 on 92/07/21 GMT (by AAEE1AN at OS2CUST) Subject: Capture of Error register information - how? Ref: Append at 03:33:00 on 92/06/21 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) If you find a way (nice or otherwise) to automate this, do **PLEASE** put it in this BB and/or in the QandA BB. In eager anticipation ... Mike Andrews, Okla. Dept. of Transportation (405) 521-4197 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 16:36:07 on 92/07/21 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST) Subject: Survey More Info (Stalling and Poor Performance) Ref: Append at 15:15:06 on 92/07/21 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) It has been my experience that on a small HPFS partition (65 MB), the install- ation works fine. However on a 965 MB partition, the installation stalls when building the desktop after the tutorial. It is really serious because the per- formance of the entire system is retarded if one reboots while at the grey screen with no shutdown option. Makeini of OS2.ini and OS2sys.ini take HOURS, and do not correct the desktop. The system seems to function, but at a level of performance that is 10-20% of that of a correctly functioning system. FAT works fine on a single partition, so why doesn't HPFS? I reported this problem 10 weeks ago, and it is not even recognized as a defect yet! My Equipment: Hewlett Packard RS/25C BIOS E.02.06 (Current level) Adaptec 1542 SCSI Controller; BIOS:3.11N Rev. B Hewlett Packard 1 GB Hard Drive Paradise/HP VGA (8-bit mode) Chris Knoell (MGH) ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 17:28:49 on 92/07/21 GMT (by PJE7360 at OS2CUST) Subject: Survey More Info (Stalling and Poor Performance) Ref: Append at 18:56:43 on 92/07/20 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) I have installed OS/2 V2 several hundred times on a variety of PS/2 and Clone m achines. I have not seen the problems that you are having. We do however, use a 70MB partition to install OS/2 in and this does speed up the install process (or at least the Desktop Build process). We now install OS/2 Via a LAN with I BM's product called LIU/2. We clone a model workstation out to our users and t his already has a prepared Desktop built in (prevents the long build times for the Desktop). I have seen the longer build times on initial installation with large HPFS volumes, but only on the rare occasions when I installed on a 312MB drive partition. I have tried to install OS/2 in a FAT partition but did not l ike the performance hit I took for this. Our drives look like this... A 120 M b drive will have 70Mb primary partition, 50Mb Extended partition with logical drive D = 35Mb and E = 15MB. The only thing on c: is the OS/2 system, Comm Mgr , LAN Requestor and Querey Manager. The E drive is reserved for SWAPPER.DAT. C and E Drives are HPFS, while D drive is FAT. Richard Ellison - Software Consultant - Duke Power Co. ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 18:36:23 on 92/07/21 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Subject: Survey More Info (Stalling and Poor Performance) Ref: Append at 16:36:07 on 92/07/21 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST) Hello Chris; What you are saying is exactly what I have found on my IBM system. I have gotten in contact with an IBM OS/2 programmer and they are looking into the problem. There may be light at the end of the tunnel. The only thing I don't know is how long is the tunnel. Anyway, It appears from what I have read that the performance and the long installation in HPFS seems to be related to the size of the drive and that it is an SCSI interface. Since my system has been unload and I'm back to the install testing stage I will try installing OS/2 in a partition of only 60 megs. I wonder if the system in HPFS will perform as fast as it did under FAT. Your not alone. I will keep you informed of any changes. Jerry Sitbon (718) 357-4369 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 19:22:50 on 92/07/21 GMT (by VA06582 at OS2CUST) Subject: DELETE/UnDELETE facility Is there a way to remove all contents of the DELETE directory without having to process each file entry individually? A PM interface to this facility would be great! (reference the old v1.3 'Trash Cans') ------------- Now for the real question: can I change the attributes of the DELETE directory contents and delete these files, or does this create some system paradox? And, what about the CONTROL dataset? Can it be deleted? Please don't misunderstand me; I don't want to stop using this facility -- it's a nice fallback. However, sometimes it's necessary to cleanup and recoup space. I trying to figure the safest, cleanest, quickest way to accomplish this cleanup. Bill Pier @ Hughes Aircraft, Fullerton, CA ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 19:41:47 on 92/07/21 GMT (by HALLERMA at BCRVMPC1) Subject: OEM System Locked using BASIC/BASICA Ref: Append at 14:26:46 on 92/07/21 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) The only possible answer to this APAR would be to refuse to install BASIC/BASICA on non-IBM systems. BASIC/BASICA are tied to the BASIC ROM that only appears in IBM systems. OS/2 ships with QBASIC which is faster than BASIC/BASICA and runs on both IBM and non-IBM systems. Mel Hallerman ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 20:42:22 on 92/07/21 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: DELETE/UnDELETE facility Ref: Append at 19:22:50 on 92/07/21 GMT (by VA06582 at OS2CUST) Try UNDELETE /A /S /F all , subdirectories , Force to remove. Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 NHO-32 801-7th Ave Calgary, Alberta, CANADA T2P 2N6 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 20:22:36 on 92/07/22 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST) Subject: PMCHKDSK never checks Ref: Append at 11:48:52 on 92/07/20 GMT (by XXCDSX26 at TORVMCOP) Michael, ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The IBM adapter uses track 0 to store some boot information. Don't now why, my Aboveboard doesn't do that. Michael Harper - Cdn Depository for Securities, Ltd ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The IBM uses track 0 to store its inilitiazation code, for different SIMM sizes and such. The above board MC has its code in ROM, it takes up 8 or 16k of UMB which is a concern with dos, but not really with OS/2. Mike Long - CARD Iowa State University - PC/LAN Analyst ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 11:42:34 on 92/07/23 GMT (by XXCDSX26 at TORVMCOP) Subject: PMCHKDSK never checks Ref: Append at 20:22:36 on 92/07/22 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST) Mike: Thank you. Michael Harper - Cdn Depository for Securities, Ltd ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 16:02:56 on 92/07/23 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Subject: Verified: Poor Performance and Long Installation On 07/23/92, 11:00AM Eastern time, I received a call from IBM OS/2 support. A problem has been found with OS/2 2.0 when installed on a partition larger than 100 megs in HPFS. The APR is number PJ04960. The problem cuases the system to take over two hours to install. The problem grows with larger hard disks. Other problems include slow closing of folders, from two to seven seconds and poor performance in other hard disk activities. IBM recommends that for the time being to place the OS/2 BASE and EXtended Services in a seperate partiton. The partition should not be greater than 100 megs. This problem happens when the partiton is formatted in HPFS. Large partitons seem to work correctly when formatted in FAT. PS: Chris I guess we found a real problem after all. All users with this problem should report it to IBM. This will help them to know that many of us need a fix as soon as possible. I'll keep the BBS posted of any other news. I recommend that when you report a problem to IBM that you post your PMR number on the OS/2 BBS with a description of the problem. This way other users with the same problem can use you number as a reference. There is strenght in numbers. Thanks for all the help. OS/2 2.0 GA - Beta version 1.0 <g> Jerry Sitbon (718) 357-4369 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 16:24:39 on 92/07/23 GMT (by ZRMJ1 at OS2CUST) Subject: Setting Multi-tasking priorities I would like to give one application priority over all others. Where are these priorities set, and what restrictions are there? Is there any documentation that explains how OS/2 does multi-tasking and multi-thread? Thanks for your help! R. Michael Jamison - Kerr McGee Corporation ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 18:46:26 on 92/07/23 GMT (by NAAO3IY at OS2CUST) Subject: Setting Multi-tasking priorities Ref: Append at 16:24:39 on 92/07/23 GMT (by ZRMJ1 at OS2CUST) Threads in OS/2 are trusted to set their own priorities, first to one of the three general classes "Time-critical", "Regular" or "Idle-time", and then to a priority level 0 to +31 within the class. Time-critical is strictly for things that will _break_ if they don't get instant service. Idle-time is for stuff that it won't hurt to be completely starved -- like the Mandelbrot set you're computing in the background. Regular is for everything else. OS/2 will fiddle around with the priority levels (but not the classes) for Regular and Idle-time, unless it is told not to, in CONFIG.SYS. The idea is to A) boost the process that has the keyboard focus and B) give preference to threads that have historically spent most of their time blocked. All this is an oversimplification, of course. The subject is discussed as part of the DosSetPrty system API. John Kennedy -- Hoechst Celanese, Bridgewater, NJ ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 02:39:13 on 92/07/24 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST) Subject: Setting Multi-tasking priorities Ref: Append at 16:24:39 on 92/07/23 GMT (by ZRMJ1 at OS2CUST) R. MICHAEL, IF IT IS AN APPLICATION THAT SOMEONE ELSE HAS WRITTEN, THERE IS A UTILITY TO ST ART A CERTAIN APPLICATION AT TIME CRITICAL OR IDLE. IT IS CALLED NICE, AND IS AVAILABLE AT THE FTP SITE FTP-OS2.NMSU.EDU. Mike Long - CARD Iowa State University - PC/LAN Analyst ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 13:32:56 on 92/07/24 GMT (by XXMTEL02 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Verified: Poor Performance and Long Installation Ref: Append at 16:02:56 on 92/07/23 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Just a note that the performance/installation problem is not on all machines. We have just implemented OS/2 2.0 and ES 1.0 on a number of PS/2 model 95's with 300+ meg drives. We have a single HPFS partition. No problems have been encountered. We will be doing the same installation on model 90's with 100+ meg drives and will watch for this problem. Daryl M. Banke Maritime Tel & Tel Dartmouth, NS Canada ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 14:49:58 on 92/07/24 GMT (by KOLSKY at HAIFASC3) Subject: Setting Multi-tasking priorities Ref: Append at 18:46:26 on 92/07/23 GMT (by NAAO3IY at OS2CUST) Actually, there are four classes - Time critical, Fixed high, Regular, Idle time. All but regular have fixed priorities. Amir Kolsky ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 15:22:39 on 92/07/24 GMT (by NAAO3IY at OS2CUST) Subject: Setting Multi-tasking priorities Ref: Append at 14:49:58 on 92/07/24 GMT (by KOLSKY at HAIFASC3) You're right about there being the fixed-high class between time-critical and regular -- that must have been added without my noticing (the last time I had to deal with OS/2 priorities was back when 1.0 was still in beta). But at least in 1.3, only time-critical is immune to the system mucking about, or at least _also_ _sprach_ the 1.3 OS/2 Programming Reference (on-line). Has 2.0 changed this? John Kennedy -- Hoechst Celanese, Bridgewater, NJ ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 16:00:05 on 92/07/24 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Subject: Verified: Poor Performance and Long Installation Ref: Append at 13:32:56 on 92/07/24 GMT (by XXMTEL02 at TORVMCOP) Hi Daryl, Fast Machines like the 90 will mask the problem. After you install OS/2 on the 100 meg computer compare the speed of each when closing a folder. It might help if you open a series of folders then, using the mouse, double click closing all the folders. To compare the two machines. Some people have found that each time they load OS/2 it takes a different lenght of time or some icons are missing after installion. Others will find that the general performance of the system to be much less. I'm glad you don't seem to have the problem but as for myself, it has made using OS/2 a nightmare. I quess that when IBM Beta tested OS/2 all there systems were either less than 120 megs or they used mostly FAT systems. OS/2 2.0 GA Beta version - 1 <g> Jerry Sitbon (718) 357-4369 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 17:04:17 on 92/07/24 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST) Subject: Verified: Poor Performance and Long Installation Ref: Append at 13:32:56 on 92/07/24 GMT (by XXMTEL02 at TORVMCOP) Have you comapared the performance that you are now getting with the single partiton in FAT, or with HPFS on a <100 MB partiton? Also, how long does the total installation take you? Another indicator that may be worth checking is how long it takes to perform the makeini function - it should take a few minutes, but it took about 1 hour for each "ini" file on my initial install. I hope that the problem is not as general as I fear that it is - I've yet to talk with anyone in IBM support that uses HPFS as the three of us do. They just keep telling us to have multiple partitions - which is why I suspect that some problem had been identified long ago, or (more likely) they use FAT. When I ask why, they respond that it is only for disks >500 MB, it's buggy, or they just don't understand the purpose of HPFS at all. I'm now working with a guy from the WPS support team - that doesn't use WPS at all - Full Screen OS/2 is his preferred environment! Chris Knoell (MGH) ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 20:34:58 on 92/07/24 GMT (by TRAUTMAN at PKEDVM8) Subject: 16MB+ on EISA? Ref: Append at 17:33:55 on 92/07/16 GMT (by IL62623 at OS2CUST) I know it has been discussed on the internal forums, from what I remember it depends on the response from one of the BIOs calls. Part of it has to do with the DMA on the machine and if it supports greater than 16meg. Bill Trautman ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 21:36:05 on 92/07/24 GMT (by AAEE1AN at OS2CUST) Subject: Verified: Poor Performance and Long Installation Ref: Append at 16:02:56 on 92/07/23 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Jerry: Thank you for the info!!!!! I suspect my techies will be opening a PMR first thing Monday. I tend to view OS/2 2.0 not as beta, but as GAmma (the next level after beta). They have a reason for calling it GA. Mike Andrews, Okla. Dept. of Transportation (405) 521-4197 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 02:53:00 on 92/07/25 GMT (by ADUNSMUI at TOROLAB6) Subject: Verified: Poor Performance and Long Installation Ref: Append at 17:04:17 on 92/07/24 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST) I'm running a 20MHz PS/2 Mod 80 W/ 300M ESDI as a single partition. It has been running OS/2 since V1.0 (5 years!), and I _think_ that it has been a single partition since about V1.1, and I went HPFS in V1.2... I've had no icon/HPFS problems to report - I did the V2.0 install over top of V1.3.2 (CSD 5050 level) and aside from having to remove a 4M SIMM to get it install (V1.3.2 had ignored the extra memory above 16MB) I had no problems. Heck, even the CM/LAN migration worked! Al Dunsmuir - Appended at 10:45:28 PM EDT on 92/07/24 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 18:25:54 on 92/07/25 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) Subject: CPBACKUP Corrupts System With OS/2 1.3 I was able to backup and restore the system by rebooting under DOS and using PCTools CPBACKUP utility. I tried this with OS/2 2.0 2 days ago and the backup was clean and fast - as you would expect. When I restored the system after re-FDISK the WorkPlaceShell Desktop was CORRUPTED.... Thus - DO NOT USE CPBACKUP TO BACKUP/RESTORE YOUR BOOT VOLUME AS IT WILL CORRUPT THE WPS DESKTOP.... It still works fine for the user data volumes. IBM: How about talking to Central Point Software to convince them to come out with an OS/2 2.0 version of their CPBACKUP utility. The 40 seconds per 1.44mb diskette to backup my system is very nice compared to the minutes using the OS/2 BACKUP utility. Lionel Dyck - Rockwell International, Information Systems Center ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 16:00:48 on 92/07/27 GMT (by WZ00624 at OS2CUST) Subject: Verified: Poor Performance and Long Installation Ref: Append at 02:53:00 on 92/07/25 GMT (by ADUNSMUI at TOROLAB6) If you migrated applications from OS/2 1.3, then I assume that you did not re -format your disk. Perhaps this problem only happens on a freshly prepared disk. How long did the installation take? In order to guage the performance we need to have a standard to compare them with - I've mentioned this as a response to the "It works fine for me but the installation took forever" that I have received on another forum. It's my contention that if the install "took forever" then things may really not be alright - performance may be poor. This may only be obvious on slower machines, as faster ones may provide acceptable speed. However I suspect in your case that the system is working fine because HPFS was installed proir to version 2.0. Note that there are known problems with SWAPPER.DAT on a HPFS volume, both with dynamic sizing and PM CHKDSK errors. Fixes have been posted here - I would NOT recommend the kernel fix unless you feel that it is absolutely necessary, but the HPFS.IFS fix seems to solve the CHKDSK errors without causing any other problems. Chris Knoell (MGH) ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 03:42:39 on 92/07/28 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Verified: Poor Performance and Long Installation Ref: Append at 16:02:56 on 92/07/23 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) That's strange. I've installed on 120m disk. Only have the OS2 files on that disk in HPFS format. That's the original disk on the mod 70-486. Never a problem, works like it's suppose to. All the other software and files are on SCSI disks. I don't understand this blanket statement about 100 meg disks, HPFS, and OS2! Elliott M. Avedon University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1 (519) 885-1211 x2204 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 15:20:27 on 92/07/28 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Subject: Verified: Poor Performance and Long Installation Ref: Append at 03:42:39 on 92/07/28 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Hello Elliott; I'm the person who discovered the original problem with OS/2 in stalling and poor performance. Let me asure you that the problem with hard drives over 100 megs in one partition is true. I have been contacted by the IBM OS/2 programmers and they have all verified the problem. Your machine is fast enough to mask the problem. On the other hand my machine is running at 16 mhz. with a 386DX. The OS/2 team even claims that the problem also can be found under FAT. OS/2 uses a different type of allocation table then DOS. OS/2 2.0 also had changes made to the allcocation table for larger drives. If you think your system is fast now, just watch how quick it will run when the problem is correct. I know of the work it takes to reinsatall OS/2 but if you have another system or you are going to re-install OS/2 on this system, try using a primary partition of 100 megs. You'll be quite surpised. PS: I also found a bug in the Installation program when you go from a Large HPFS partition to a smaller one. The system will report that it was unable to format the drive. The work around is to first format the partition using FAT. Once formatted, re boot and install using HPFS. This does work. Jerry Sitbon (718) 357-4369 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 13:27:58 on 92/07/29 GMT (by KENIN at MARTLINK) Subject: vcdrom.sys documentation Ref: Append at 19:32:21 on 92/07/10 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) I found a little info in the OS/2 2.0 red book GG24-3730. I can't find any good doc either. Ken Wohlferd ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 12:57:09 on 92/07/30 GMT (by SAAW0QT at OS2CUST) Subject: Mouse settings (no text entered) Jay E Carter - Ralston Purina ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 12:59:41 on 92/07/30 GMT (by SAAW0QT at OS2CUST) Subject: Mouse Is there an OS/2 command to reconfigure a trackball to left handed, similar to the DOS North command? Jay E Carter - Ralston Purina ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 13:19:45 on 92/07/30 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Subject: Fun in the Sun with OS/2 Normally I log on to the BBS to voice a problem or weakness in OS/2. This time I want to share a little surprise I found in OS/2. Try this, it won't harm your system. From an OS/2 command prompt change to the C:\OS2\BITMAP directory. Next remove the hidden attribute from the files. Enter the command AAAAA (That's 5 A charaters) To end surprise press any key. Key Sequence: CD C:\OS2\BITMAP ATTRIB -H *.* AAAAA Try it, you'll like it! OS/2 2.0 GA Beta version 1 (Can't wait for OS/2 2.1, can I say that !!!!!!) Jerry Sitbon (718) 357-4369 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 13:28:11 on 92/07/30 GMT (by CNADLER at WMAVM1) ..... OS2BASE CFORUM modified at 13:30:44 on 92/07/30 GMT (by CNADLER at WMAVM1) Subject: Fun in the Sun with OS/2 Ref: Append at 13:19:45 on 92/07/30 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Just a warning - this will not work if you have not installed the optional bitmaps. However, you can always install them using selective install. | | You can also see this by pressing Alt+Shift+Ctrl+O | Cliff Nadler Federal Sector Services Rockville, MD IBM Federal Systems Company PROFS: NADLER at WMAVM7 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 14:00:08 on 92/07/30 GMT (by ANDYW at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Fun in the Sun with OS/2 Ref: Append at 13:19:45 on 92/07/30 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Another (somewhat easier) way to get to the "surprise" is to click Mouse Button 1 on the desktop, then hit the key combo Ctrl-Alt-Shft-O. Andy Wierling OS/2 Software Developer Programs ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 14:23:33 on 92/07/30 GMT (by RRPLYLER at CLTVM3) Subject: Mouse Ref: Append at 12:59:41 on 92/07/30 GMT (by SAAW0QT at OS2CUST) If it uses the mouse interface, open OS/2 System folder, then open System Setup folder, then open Mouse. The Setup option allows you to select either Left handed or Right handed. Bob Plyler Document Processor Development ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 15:07:05 on 92/07/30 GMT (by IL39432 at OS2CUST) Subject: disk reorganizer needed under os2 ? Is it necessary to periodically reorganize a hard disk under os2? We have some using HPFS and some using FAT with a mix of 1.3 and 2.0. If it is necessary, please let me know what software is available for this. Thanks. Bill Cleveland, Goochland County, VA ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 16:45:00 on 92/07/30 GMT (by TRAUTMAN at PKEDVM8) Subject: disk reorganizer needed under os2 ? Ref: Append at 15:07:05 on 92/07/30 GMT (by IL39432 at OS2CUST) If you are talking about reorganizing underlying layout of space allocated on the drive, only the FAT disks should need this type of reorganization. HPFS is designed to minimize disk fragmentation. Bill Trautman ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 20:56:58 on 92/07/30 GMT (by IL39432 at OS2CUST) Subject: disk reorganizer needed under os2 ? Can I use Norton or PC Tools to defragment a FAT type disk or is there an OS/2 utility that will do the same thing? Bill, trying to figure it all out, Cleveland, Goochland County, VA ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 21:30:56 on 92/07/30 GMT (by NAAO3IY at OS2CUST) Subject: disk reorganizer needed under os2 ? Ref: Append at 20:56:58 on 92/07/30 GMT (by IL39432 at OS2CUST) Norton Utilities 6.01, running under real DOS, seems to safely defragment OS/2 2.0 FAT volumes. Note that as far as I know, neither Norton nor IBM guarantees this. John Kennedy -- Hoechst Celanese, Bridgewater, NJ ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 13:14:54 on 92/07/31 GMT (by SAAW0QT at OS2CUST) Subject: Mouse Ref: Append at 14:23:33 on 92/07/30 GMT (by RRPLYLER at CLTVM3) I understand about the mouse left and right. This is north/south orientation f or the trackball. The mouse left and right setting do not accomplish what is n eeded. Jay E Carter - Ralston Purina ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 21:07:16 on 92/07/31 GMT (by XXCWBD04 at TORVMCOP) Subject: New OS/2 Kernel causing Workplace shell error. I downloaded the "highly recommended" OS2KRNL (6.412). After installing it on my machine and having it work fine, I had another person install it as well. She is now getting the following error message: Workplace Shell There is not enough memory to continue. End one or more programs that are running on your system to release memory. Select ENTER when ready (PMV2001). The only difference between the machines is that she is running in VGA mode to be able to run seamless Windows. This happens when she loads lots of applications. (But no more than she had loaded prior to installing the new kernel!) Has anyone else run into this problem? I can't believe this kernel was released without being stress tested. Greg Athayde Canadian Wheat Board ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 21:09:33 on 92/07/31 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Subject: Verified: Poor Performance and Long Installation Ref: Append at 16:02:56 on 92/07/23 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Hello fellow OS/2 2.0 users; As I promised, I would like to share what the current situation of problems that exist in OS/2 and what actions have been taken to correct the problems. The original problems were: 1. Long Installion under HPFS. 2. Poor Performance under HPFS. 3. Folders close very slowly (2 to 6 seconds). 4. System stalls when launching a program object fron 2 to 20 minutes. As of now the following solutions, fixes and changes have been made: 1. SCSI adapter by IBM non-cached replaced (ECA-032) Updating the SCSI controller appears not to have corrected any of the original problems. According to IBM this change will improve controller performance. 2. PS/2 Model 80-041 with Math Coprocessor planer board replaced (ECA-011) Replacing the mother board appears not to have corrected any of the original problems. According to IBM the changes corrects a problem with faulty Intel 80386 and a conflict with math coprocessor. 3. Replaced original System Reference Diskette with new version (1.11) Reinstalled system options using new reference diskette. The refernece disk appears not to correct the original problems. According to IBM and other vendors the original reference disk could make the system operate incorrectly. 4. Swapped out Xtend 2-16 memory adapter with 8 megs installed with an IBM 2-14 memory adapter with 8 megs installed. With the IBM memory board installed the stalling problem was corrected. Program objects that would have stall the system worked correctly. The Xtend board was returned to the vendor for testing. Board was found to be good but to insure that it was not at fault, the vendor replaced it with a 1992 version. The new board also caused the system to stall. Board was sent to IBM for testing. IBM was not able to make the board fail. Board was returned and tested in PS/2 80 with new planer board. The Xtend board still caused the system to stall when launching program objects. IBM is still trying to find out what is causing the problem. At the present time, I have sent a memory dump of the system when it goes into a stall. If they are unable to find the problem they will pickup the system to see what is going on They are not giving up and are trying their best to resolve this problem. 5. Slow cloing of folders, poor performance and loss of printer icon appears to created by a bug in OS/2. These problems have been verified by IBM. The temporary fix is to install the system in a partition of less than 100 megs. Other partitons can be larger than 100 megs. I have alittle advice for others that may have one or all these problems. These problems have been reported under various categories. PJ04960 states Stalling and poor performance. It should have also said long install. PJ04861 states the slow closing of folders. PJ04678 states problem installing with a large drive (1 gig). These are all the same problem. If you have any or all these problems call IBM and ask to be added to the interested party list for the fix. I have reinstalled OS/2 in a partiton that is less than 100 megs. Installion was very quick and folders opened and closed very fast. Overall performance was much improved. I can't wait to report that all my problems are solved. I think we all must agree that OS/2 was released before it was really ready. From what I can see IBM is making a real effort to correct all the problems as quickly as possible. They have kept me constantly informed of the present situation of the problems. Hopefully there will be a major fix release some time in Sept. or Oct. Warning not all IBM personal that receive calls for problems know the present situation. Many faults that have been found still are not clearly understood by the IBM help service person. I advise everyone that knows of problems with OS/2, call them in as soon as possible. The OS/2 team can not fix what they don't know is broken. This way the next major release will be the best yet. OS/2 2.0 GA Beta Version 1 (Can't wait for OS/2 OK) Jerry Sitbon (718) 357-4369 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 15:55:39 on 92/08/02 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Print Screen Here's an interesting one! Normally, I use the LINK print facility to download an appen, but a recent appen was one screen with some part numbers, so I decided to do a "quick" print screen. I pressed the PrintScreen key, and OS2 chugged, and sent stuff to the printer (an IBM 4019). About 5 minutes later - out came the print screen. This was not a problem, since I continued to read other appens on the LINK. However, when I looked at the printed screen, I realized why it took so long. It was exactly, and I mean exactly, what was on the screen. What ever was "black" was printed black, and what ever was "white" or in a colour, was printed white. What this meant was that my page had white lettering against a black background! That's what took so long. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to get a PrintScreen in reverse? Does one go to the printer icon, and change a parameter before pressing the PrintScreen key? Or is OS2 so literal, that you will always get what is exactly on the screen? Elliott M. Avedon University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1 (519) 885-1211 x2204 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 01:34:06 on 92/08/03 GMT (by XXVALC01 at TORVMCOP) Subject: New OS/2 Kernel causing Workplace shell error. Ref: Append at 21:07:16 on 92/07/31 GMT (by XXCWBD04 at TORVMCOP) Yes, I also get "short of memory" messages, usually near the end of the day. It appears to have started when I installed the new os2krnl and even though I have 142mb free on the swap drive (HPFS). Tony Valenti Valcomp Technology Inc. (416) 850-9111 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 03:05:36 on 92/08/03 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Subject: Print Screen Ref: Append at 15:55:39 on 92/08/02 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) The output you got is normal. To make the active screen the selected print - screen, place the mouse arrow inside the LINK window. Then press the print screen key. The following is covered in the OS/2 help information If the mouse arrow is placed on the Desk top, the entire screen will be printed whne PRINT - SCREEN is selected. If the mouse is inside a window, the window will only be printed when print screen is selcected. Sometime I have found that to get a text output I was required to hit the PRINT - SCREEN key twice. Hope this helps Jerry Sitbon (718) 357-4369 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 04:27:31 on 92/08/03 GMT (by IL02074 at OS2CUST) Subject: New OS/2 Kernel causing Workplace shell error. Ref: Append at 21:07:16 on 92/07/31 GMT (by XXCWBD04 at TORVMCOP) Yes, I have experienced the problem too. It occurs on a PS/2 M80 and on an AMI clone (AT-BUS). I have reverted back to the old OS2KRNL by un-doing the IBM fix manually. It is pretty unbelievable that IBM has not either pulled this APAR or APARed the APAR. Actually, there are two fixes being worked on that should solve the PMV2001 memory error and we have been tracking them daily. The most important APAR is PJ03942 and is still open. There are literally hundreds of people who have added their names to the "interested parties" list for the PJ03942 APAR. Why ask why? Rick Kearney - Mainline Information Sys. - OS/2 Application Developer ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 19:05:28 on 92/08/03 GMT (by NAAO3IY at OS2CUST) Subject: Print Screen Ref: Append at 15:55:39 on 92/08/02 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) It is normal for the OS/2 Print Screen function to copy the window or screen exactly as-is. If you are using the ES Communications Manager 3270 emulator, use Shift-Print-Screen to get a text-mode printout through the 3270 emulator instead of using Print-Screen to get a window snapshot through OS/2. John Kennedy -- Hoechst Celanese, Bridgewater, NJ ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 19:17:56 on 92/08/03 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Subject: New OS/2 Kernel causing Workplace shell error. Ref: Append at 04:27:31 on 92/08/03 GMT (by IL02074 at OS2CUST) The fix was tested before release. It is running on my Mod 80, 16 MB A31 without fail since I got it and then released it. From all the data available to me for D/L counts, the percentage of people with problems is NOT large. I can not justify putting this fix out in the state it is in in anyway. I also can not justify removing it, as many people do NOT have problems with it. I have taken action to thoroughly test ALL major fixes like this one. Selective fixes were usually just tested at a functional level, and clearly with some components, this is NOT satisfactory. Major components will now undergo more rigid component level testing in the future. Sorry for any inconviences. I suggest that if you have problems that you backout the fix. We have had reports of people that have cleared the problem in a few ways (none reliable). - Delete the SWAPPER.DAT file before booting - Running CHKDSK /F on the SWAP Drive - Accepting the PMV2001 error (over 20 times) until no more appear Irv Spalten BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 19:43:08 on 92/08/03 GMT (by DASHEA at NYCVMIC1) Subject: Print Screen vs. Print to File I am attempting to print a PM screen that contains a notebook. If I do a print screen directed to a printer I get the entire PM window printed out. However, if I do a print screen directed to a file and then print the file, I only get the contents of the notebook page (no notebook tabs, no title bar, no action bar, etc). Is this a bug or should directing print to a file give you different results than directing print to a printer? Thanks, Dan ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 04:47:28 on 92/08/04 GMT (by IL13288 at OS2CUST) Subject: Coprocessor Simulation in OS/2 2.0 How do I enable OS/2 math coprocessor simulation for my DOS sessions? Wayne McCaughan, California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 14:41:54 on 92/08/04 GMT (by SSIA013 at OS2CUST) Subject: Coprocessor Simulation in OS/2 2.0 Ref: Append at 04:47:28 on 92/08/04 GMT (by IL13288 at OS2CUST) I've found that what you get as a printout (from a print screen), depends on what is currently selected when you press the print screen key. You probably got the complete desktop printout because you had clicked some- place on the desktop before pressing the Print Screen key. The second time, you didn't select the desktop, so the print screen printed what was in the forground. I've printed the same screen both ways -- the entire desktop, and just a "notebook" that was open. Paul Kurr -- Stockholder Systems, Norcross GA ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 18:09:37 on 92/08/04 GMT (by IL54080 at OS2CUST) Subject: New OS/2 Kernel causing Workplace shell error. Ref: Append at 19:17:56 on 92/08/03 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) I will like to register a complain for the same symptom. I have a 16MB machine with 35MB free disk on the swap drive and still experiense the same problem. It happens only after I load a Windows appliaction or start using the Network folder... John Charalambous ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 18:19:12 on 92/08/04 GMT (by NAAG8T6 at OS2CUST) Subject: New OS/2 Kernel causing Workplace shell error. Ref: Append at 21:07:16 on 92/07/31 GMT (by XXCWBD04 at TORVMCOP) I also immediately encountered the PMV2001 problem, and backed out the OS2KRNL fix. This was on a Gateway 2000 486DX2 with 16Megs. The problem never occurred before applying the fix and essentially immediately after rebooting. Can anyone suggest a utility to check available memory on the system? I have encountered PMV2001 in another context and would like to see if it is reasonable. Specifically, I have associated '.ZIP' to PKUNZIP2 and by multiple selection run about 20 unzips at the same time; these all run but I get the PMV2001 thereafter, as if memory has not been cleaned up. Bruce Ferrero (Aetna) ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 19:03:15 on 92/08/04 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) Subject: Coprocessor Simulation in OS/2 2.0 Ref: Append at 04:47:28 on 92/08/04 GMT (by IL13288 at OS2CUST) Coprocessor emulation should be enabled by default (I don't know how to un-enable it). Just issue coprocessor commands and they will be handled by the emulator. If, however, your code specifically asks if a coprocessor is present, the emulator will tell the truth (and say "no"). Nathan Davis ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 21:12:51 on 92/08/04 GMT (by JJIN033 at OS2CUST) Subject: Microsoft Bookshelf Has anyone gotten Microsoft Bookshelf to work under OS/2 V2.0? I'm using the Sound Blaster PRO Update Kit (SB Pro with CD-ROM) on an IBM PS/2 Model 40. Anyone been able to use this stuff with OS/2? Suggestions would be helpful. So far, everything I've read seems to indicate that there are a bunch of problems. Currently, I must use Boot Manager to boot to DOS 5.0 and run Windows 3.1 and I don't like that at all. Thanks.... Walt Kapica Walt Kapica Johnson & Johnson ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 14:44:18 on 92/08/05 GMT (by 86649149 at WARVM2) Subject: More Than 16MB of Memory We have a Model 95 as a file server and are considering adding additional memory to the system to bring it up to 24mb. How does OS/2 uses this memory above 16mb, if at all? Appended by: , STUART STEBBINGS 86649149 at WARVM2 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 17:36:01 on 92/08/05 GMT (by XXCDSX26 at TORVMCOP) Subject: More Than 16MB of Memory Ref: Append at 14:44:18 on 92/08/05 GMT (by 86649149 at WARVM2) Stuart: OS/2 will use this memory as part of its 4GB space. The Mod95 is designed for this. Michael Harper - Cdn Depository for Securities, Ltd ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 18:16:16 on 92/08/05 GMT (by SAMI3QU at OS2CUST) Subject: More Than 16MB of Memory Ref: Append at 17:36:01 on 92/08/05 GMT (by XXCDSX26 at TORVMCOP) Just an addition to avoid future confusion. Memory above 16M on the mod 95 should be no problem as previously stated. In general, OS/2 2.0 uses (or doesn't use) memory above 16M depending on the system architecture. On EISA and MCA machines, OS/2 should be able to use all memory any way it sees fit. On ISA machines, DMA transfers are limited to 24-bit addressing. Therefore, OS/2 can't use memory above 16M for anything that involves DMA transfers. OS/2 will attempt to allocate non-swappable stuff (like RAM disks) above 16M. Mark Thompson - Coal Services Corp. St. Louis, MO ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 21:01:45 on 92/08/05 GMT (by SBCY006 at OS2CUST) Subject: Setting Priorities for OS/2 Applications Does anyone know how to set a priority on a object-by-object basis. Let's say I want to run a OS/2 program like Reminder and I also want to run my E-Mail program BUT I want my reminder to get more CPU service then the E-Mail. This is similar to a MVS dispatching priority. An ideas ?????? Matthew Moran ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 22:14:26 on 92/08/05 GMT (by THRUMD at SYDVM1) Subject: More Than 16MB of Memory Ref: Append at 14:44:18 on 92/08/05 GMT (by 86649149 at WARVM2) OS/2 V2 does, V1.x doesn't. If your server is running 1.3, you'd be wasting your money. Dave ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 23:27:40 on 92/08/05 GMT (by HESSEYM at SYDVM1) Subject: UNABLE TO DELETE OBJECTS Has anyone experienced the following problem and, if so, do you have a fix? One of our people created a shadow of a folder template and a program template, instead of just dragging them out of the Templates folder. Now she has these two templates sitting on her desktop and is unable to delete them or move them. I tried moving them to the shredder, to the A drive and to a folder on the C drive called "DUDS" - all to no avail. When you try to move them, they just create more programs/folders. Also, occasionally, I have experienced the inability to delete an object which I have created. Sometimes I have been able to get rid of them by moving them onto the A drive. Sometimes I cannot even do this - hence the folder on my D drive called "DUDS". Is this a bug with OS/2 2.0 or is it just me?? Regards Maureen Hessey HESSEYM at SYDVM1 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 16:50:28 on 92/08/06 GMT (by XXBCTE25 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Survey Status Report (Stalling & Poor Performance) Ref: Append at 14:49:49 on 92/07/16 GMT (by PERSHNG at YKTVMH) I've just picked up this thread and have realised that I've been having this precise problem on my AST 386-20mhz with an ESDI controller. The problem is EXACTLY as you describe and occurs randomly and not all that frequently (maybe 1 or 2 times/week). It's as if the kernal has gone off on vactation for a minute or so. I've found that pressing Cntrl+ESC and waiting for 10 seconds sometimes speeds the return of the system. Will this be fixed soon? Claude Biron ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 17:00:58 on 92/08/06 GMT (by XXBCTE25 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Verified: Poor Performance and Long Installation Ref: Append at 15:20:27 on 92/07/28 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) I've just picked up this thread and I definitely have the "stalling" problem om my AST 386-20mhz ESDI 150meg (1 partition) machine. The stalling is exactly as it's been described here and occurs randomly on an average of 1 - 2 times per week. Have they isolated this problem and is there a fix in sight? Claude Biron ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 17:09:22 on 92/08/06 GMT (by KFANNING at LSAVMIC4) Subject: UNABLE TO DELETE OBJECTS Ref: Append at 23:27:40 on 92/08/05 GMT (by HESSEYM at SYDVM1) Maureen, If you have a shadow of a template object, use the right mouse button to bring up the object's menu - select delete from here and it should work. If you have an object you can't shred check the Settings Notebook and make sure the object is not a template (General page); they can't be shredded.... (delete from context menu or removing template status and then shredding seem to work). Kathy Fanning OS/2 2.0 - The Operating System of Choice Workstation Specialist SE Santa Barbara, CA ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 18:13:46 on 92/08/06 GMT (by NAAO3IY at OS2CUST) Subject: Setting Priorities for OS/2 Applications Ref: Append at 21:01:45 on 92/08/05 GMT (by SBCY006 at OS2CUST) In general, OS/2 programs set their own priorities. In addition: The foreground task is given a boost. Programs that regularly give back the CPU before their timeslices end get a boost. With standard OS/2, there is no way to change any of this, except that you can remove the last-mentioned feature via CONFIG.SYS. There are external tools that you can use. However, unless at least one program that you are running is badly written, you shouldn't need them. The standard OS/2 scheme works pretty well. John Kennedy -- Hoechst Celanese, Bridgewater, NJ ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 19:01:56 on 92/08/06 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) Subject: UNABLE TO DELETE OBJECTS Ref: Append at 23:27:40 on 92/08/05 GMT (by HESSEYM at SYDVM1) To move a template, you must hold the shift key while releasing the mouse button (this is the same way you force a move when dragging an object to a different drive). Undeletable objects are a "feature." (I think the system should let the user delete the objects ontil only one is left, then protect it). Nathan Davis ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 19:34:52 on 92/08/06 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Subject: Verified: Poor Performance and Long Installation Ref: Append at 17:00:58 on 92/08/06 GMT (by XXBCTE25 at TORVMCOP) Hello Claude; I'm the person who started this thread. The problem, as of now, has not been fixed nor have they (IBM) been able to locate the source of the problem. That's the bad news. The good news is that I can reproduce the problem at will. IBM's OS/2 team is currently making arragements to pick up my system. They will, hopefully, locate the problem and find a fix. If you have the "Stalling problem" the following should happen: 1) After launching an application system take from 2 to 10 mins. to execute program. (Hard disk lamp, in most cases, stays on steady) 2) If another object is selected, the object is hashed marked but does not execute. 3) Mouse will not show busy (Clock) 4) The mouse can still be moved 5) No other objects can be selected. 6) Keyboard indicator lamps do not follow keyboard (NUM, CAP, SCROLL) 7) CTRL - ALT - DEL is not executed while stalled but will when system returns. 8) Once the system returns everything works normally. (as if no stall happened) If you do have this problem as described call it in AS SOON AS POSSIBLE!!!!!! Jerry Sitbon (718) 357-4369 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 20:31:21 on 92/08/06 GMT (by XXBCTE25 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Verified: Poor Performance and Long Installation Ref: Append at 19:34:52 on 92/08/06 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Jerry, I have the stalling problem just as you described. I've noticed a couple of times just trying to start a full screen session (clicking on a shadowed full screen object). I can't say if this relates to my hardware particulary. I suspect it's in the software. It's like the kernal is caught in a loop and times out somewhere along the way. I did report the problem to the APAR you suggested. I have no other problems other than this one and the known bug/quirks present in 2.0. I'll be following this thread closely. Thanks. Claude Biron ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 12:58:56 on 92/08/07 GMT (by PERSHNG at YKTVMH) Subject: Verified: Poor Performance and Long Installation Ref: Append at 20:31:21 on 92/08/06 GMT (by XXBCTE25 at TORVMCOP) I haven't encountered a stall situation for quite a while now (knock on wood!). Maybe it has something to do with various suggestions in these FORUMs that I have implemented: - I installed the OS2KRNL, HPFS, and REXX20 fixes (although I seriously doubt that the REXX20 fix has anything to do with these problems). - I determined how large of a SWAPPER file I needed (14 Megs in my case), bumped this number a bit (16 Megs), and changed my SWAPPATH statement (in CONFIG.SYS) so that the SWAPPER file is preallocated at this size. (This increases the likelihood of getting a small number of large contiguous chunks of disk, which improves performance; it also avoids the (buggy?) code that grows and shrinks the SWAPPER file.) - I booted from the installation floppies, erased the SWAPPER file, and ran CHKDSK with the /F:3 option *twice* to try to clean up any residual damage. (I did this overnight.) I don't have the time currently for the "ultimate" fix, which is to partition my C:-drive so that OS/2 lives in a "private" partition that is less than 100 Megs, and so that the SWAPPER file also lives in a dedicated partition that is formatted with the FAT file system. (I've added up the disk occupancy, and it looks like OS/2 plus ES plus LAN Requestor will fit in a 90-Meg partition as long as the SWAPPER file is somewhere else.) John A. Pershing Jr. ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 15:26:44 on 92/08/07 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Subject: Verified: Poor Performance and Long Installation Ref: Append at 12:58:56 on 92/08/07 GMT (by PERSHNG at YKTVMH) Hi John; I have tried many of the fixes and changes you did but still have the original stalling problem. Remember that if I simply replace my memory adapter with an IBM memory adapter the problem goes away. By the way because you have OS/2 in a FAT partition you are avoiding some of the problems. What's that knocking I hear!!!! Oh my its the IBM computer removal team. Looks like they are going to take my computer. My computer has all the luck. Its getting a free trip to Florida. I wonder if I stalled while working if my Boss would send me down to Florida. Hopefully in a few days I can report back that they have located the problem and a fix will be forth coming. Quess I'll have to log on to the OS/2 BBS with my old model 50. That's all for now Jerry Sitbon (718) 357-4369 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 16:11:16 on 92/08/07 GMT (by WZ00755 at OS2CUST) Subject: Latest OS2KRNL causes PMV2001 error OS2KRNL fix labeled 1.01 gives PMV2001 errors. After applying the OS2KRNL fix labeled 1.01 from this BBS, OS/2 gives PMV2001 errors as reported by others here. I have also seen information which seems to indicate that the PJ03686 OS2KRNL has not had this problem. I would like to fix the PMV2001 errors by removing the current fix and returning to the PJ03686 OS2KRNL rather than returning to the GA version. Where can I find a more stable version of the OS2KRNL than the two that I already have? Thanks (in advance) for your help. Larry W. Flynt - The Rosewood Corporation ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 17:21:12 on 92/08/07 GMT (by XXBCTE25 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Verified: Poor Performance and Long Installation Ref: Append at 12:58:56 on 92/08/07 GMT (by PERSHNG at YKTVMH) I have all the latest fixes and I experienced the infamous "stalling" problem last night launching a windowed session. The stall lasted for about six seconds. No disk activity during this time. It exhibited the classic symptoms of "stalling". Claude Biron ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 01:42:55 on 92/08/08 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Print Screen Ref: Append at 03:05:36 on 92/08/03 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Thanks, Jerry, I'll try with the mouse pointer inside the LINK screen window, but how do you get "black print", rather than "white print on a black background"? The latter is what takes so long - and uses a lot of toner! Elliott M. Avedon University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1 (519) 885-1211 x2204 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 01:44:27 on 92/08/08 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Print Screen Ref: Append at 19:05:28 on 92/08/03 GMT (by NAAO3IY at OS2CUST) Thanks, John, but I'm using FTTERM, not CM. Elliott M. Avedon University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1 (519) 885-1211 x2204 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 01:53:42 on 92/08/08 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Microsoft Bookshelf Ref: Append at 21:12:51 on 92/08/04 GMT (by JJIN033 at OS2CUST) I use M$ Bookshelf all the time. I'm using the CDROM version 1991 Edition Windows Series. I use it exclusively under OS2 2GA as a WPS desktop WINOS2 application. I don't have a soundcard that works with it as yet, but I think there is more to the sound situation than the card. Do you have other CDROM disks that work in your hardware configuration? How do you Bookshelf configured on the WPS desktop? Elliott M. Avedon University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1 (519) 885-1211 x2204 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 12:42:20 on 92/08/10 GMT (by PERSHNG at YKTVMH) Subject: Verified: Poor Performance and Long Installation Ref: Append at 15:26:44 on 92/08/07 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) I didn't mean to imply that I am installed in a FAT partition: I'm not. I've currently got OS/2 (plus ES, LS, TCP/IP, Read/2, Epsilon, and CorelDraw) installed on an unpartitioned, 315-Meg, HPFS disk, and huge piles of randomness spinning on an unpartitioned, 360-Meg, HPFS D:-disk. However, from discussions here, I am *thinking* of partitioning my C:-drive as 99+32+183 Megs, formatting the 32-Meg partition with FAT, and re-installing with OS/2+ES+LS in the 99-Meg partition, SWAPPER (by itself) in the 32-Meg partition, and everything else in the 183-Meg partition. If I only had two and a half days to devote to doing this... John A. Pershing Jr. ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 16:14:23 on 92/08/10 GMT (by NAAO3IY at OS2CUST) Subject: Print Screen Ref: Append at 01:44:27 on 92/08/08 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) If you mean PMFTTerm, there is a print-screen option on the File menu, which uses text mode, rather than the graphics mode that is (of necessity) implemented by the OS/2 built-in function. If you mean the real, DOS FTTerm, I would expect it to be in text mode already, but if it isn't, and you are running in a DOS window, try doing an Alt-Home to shift to full screen. John Kennedy -- Hoechst Celanese, Bridgewater, NJ ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 15:20:15 on 92/08/11 GMT (by NAAG8T6 at OS2CUST) Subject: SWAPPATH parms and Lost EAs (Continuing my item in WPS forum, it probably belongs here). In CONFIG.SYS I am encountering boot failures that I have traced to the line SWAPPATH=D:\OS2\SYSTEM x y where x=minfree, y=initial size (for SWAPPER.DAT). See master help, command reference for these parms. My system (mod 90, 16 megs) hangs after CONFIG.SYS and before WPS comes up, if x is bigger than about 31100. My D: drive is 242995200 with 49369088 free. 1. Is this a bug? (I am pursuing it with 237-5511; they told me x must be no bigger than 32767, although this is not online). 2. Install defaulted to only one parm (2048), which I assume represents y, but I don't see that documented. Or does that mean x=y=2048? 3. In general, 'Lost Extended Attributes' are a plague and for once I traced how to create some. I have a shadow of the file CONFIG.SYS in a folder, and added an open behavior for the Enhanced Editor (EPM), and made this the default open behavior. This works fine BUT if I then set x to a high value (such as 31100) and reboot, the system hangs and at that point CHKDSK shows lost EAs. The EA0000.CHK file which results from CHKDSK/F seems to have a copy of CONFIG.SYS in it. When I now set x lower and reboot, the CONFIG.SYS open option for the Enhanced Editor is gone; this is true regardless of whether I do the CHKDSK or not. That is, the SWAPPATH parm causes a hang which somehow causes lost EAs which damage my CONFIG.SYS shadow object. This bothers me - why should startup damage my WPS settings which I thought were all set when I shutdown? Bruce Ferrero (Aetna) ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 18:57:36 on 92/08/11 GMT (by JJIN033 at OS2CUST) Subject: Microsoft Bookshelf Ref: Append at 01:53:42 on 92/08/08 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Elliott, thanks for responding to my question. It's good to hear that MS Bookshelf is working under OS/2. I've got the Sound Blaster PRO kit which contains the SB PRO sound card and a CD Player. I just noticed on the IBM BBS that there is a new driver for the sound card. I'll try all this out and let you know the results. At least you've given me some hope that by CD may run under OS/2. Thanks again... Walt Walt Kapica Johnson & Johnson ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 16:36:00 on 92/08/12 GMT (by XXWESB22 at TORVMCOP) Subject: OS2KRN FIX V6.412 What is the real status of this fix?? I downloaded it and installed it and promptly ran out of memory several times. This is highly unlikely as I have a Mod 90 with 16 Megs and 12Megs free on the swapper partition. The fix seems to be working (for the moment) but I wanted to know what the real status is of this fix?? Should I back it out?? Should I install other fixes ( I was trying to do them one at a time)? When will YAOK fix be out? (Yet Another OS/2 Kernel). Gareth "Doesn't anyone test fixes??" Jones ISM - Information Systems Management Regina, SK Phone (306) 781-5109 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 17:40:16 on 92/08/12 GMT (by SHOULDIC at TUCVM1) Subject: OS2KRN FIX V6.412 Ref: Append at 16:36:00 on 92/08/12 GMT (by XXWESB22 at TORVMCOP) (Warning: I don;t know my _____ from a _____!) I don't know if you should back it out. Are your old problems worse than the current or not? (oh no you didn't just install an early fix just for the fun of it now did you :) Looking at the timings on early fixes coming (the fact that they have just about stopped) could lead to some fun with with rumour creation about trying to stabilize fixes for beta testing and release cycle. Ken Pennant Systems PS. I actually got to see a Roughrider game,... from down in Tucson! ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 19:12:32 on 92/08/12 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) Subject: SWAPPATH parms and Lost EAs Ref: Append at 15:20:15 on 92/08/11 GMT (by NAAG8T6 at OS2CUST) How are you editing your CONFIG.SYS? If you are using a DOS editor, that is what is causing the lost extended attributes, not the SWAPPATH parameters. Nathan Davis ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 20:08:19 on 92/08/12 GMT (by NAAG8T6 at OS2CUST) Subject: SWAPPATH parms and Lost EAs Ref: Append at 19:12:32 on 92/08/12 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) No, I'm using the enhanced editor. I'm quite sure the SWAPPATH-induced hang is losing the EAs - I did a controlled test verifying EAs were fine after modifying CONFIG.SYS (used CHKDSK from the 'diskette boot'), but then were in error after my next boot (from my CONFIG) hung using the new parms. I conjecture that if CONFIG.SYS hangs then any EAs related to CONFIG.SYS can get damaged, regardless of the cause of the hang (SWAPPATH or otherwise). |How are you editing your CONFIG.SYS? If you are using a DOS editor, |that is what is causing the lost extended attributes, not the |SWAPPATH parameters. Bruce Ferrero (Aetna) ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 20:58:32 on 92/08/12 GMT (by NAAO3IY at OS2CUST) Subject: SWAPPATH parms and Lost EAs Ref: Append at 20:08:19 on 92/08/12 GMT (by NAAG8T6 at OS2CUST) The only rational way for this to be happening would be if CONFIG.SYS were being _written_ during boot. Actually, I believe this may be the case in some install scenarios (one-time work being erased from CONFIG.SYS after use). But having a lost EA that _looks_ like CONFIG.SYS doesn't mean it's a CONFIG.SYS EA at all. The only EA CONFIG.SYS should _own_ looks something like ":::.TYPE:::::::::::Plain Text:::". An EA that looks like CONFIG.SYS is just an EA that happens to be on a spot on the disk that had CONFIG.SYS on it once. John Kennedy -- Hoechst Celanese, Bridgewater, NJ ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 14:29:19 on 92/08/13 GMT (by IL48722 at OS2CUST) Subject: Verified: Poor Performance and Long Installation Ref: Append at 17:21:12 on 92/08/07 GMT (by XXBCTE25 at TORVMCOP) I also saw the "stalling" problem upon launching a full screen application this morning. As others have noted, once OS/2 "timed out", there appeared to be no residual effects (except upon my nerves). Bob Beilstein, Manugistics, Inc. (315) 458-0723 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 14:47:49 on 92/08/13 GMT (by XXWESB22 at TORVMCOP) Subject: OS2KRN FIX V6.412 Ref: Append at 17:40:16 on 92/08/12 GMT (by SHOULDIC at TUCVM1) Well, I didn't quite install it for the fun of it. We have AMI Pro and it really does not like to be run seamlessly so I was trying it to see what problems were created (on a machine Without AMI Pro). My Administrator Workstation which (before the *fix*) had never crashed has now crashed three times in the last two days. I can put up with a misbehaving application much more than a crashing workstation. I guess if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Gareth "But the windows are still scratched!" Jones ISM - Information Systems Management Regina, SK Phone (306) 781-5109 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 15:45:23 on 92/08/13 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Subject: Verified: Poor Performance and Long Installation Ref: Append at 14:29:19 on 92/08/13 GMT (by IL48722 at OS2CUST) Got a call from the OS/2 team today. My machine, which is now located at Boca, can reproduce the stalling problem repeatedly. They told me that it is next in the pipe. I hope that once they study the system the fault can be located. I hope that a fix can be created before the "Service Pack" will be realeased. OS/2 2.0 GA Beta version 1 "I miss my PS/2" Jerry Sitbon (718) 357-4369 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 17:24:23 on 92/08/13 GMT (by NAAG8T6 at OS2CUST) Subject: SWAPPATH parms and Lost EAs Ref: Append at 20:58:32 on 92/08/12 GMT (by NAAO3IY at OS2CUST) After redoing the tests, I appear to be wrong about the lost EAs being related to the hang. I think that came about by using a DOS editor to fix CONFIG.SYS to prevent the hang next time (bad habit). As of today, I am using T2 from the TINYED package on this forum after booting with the 1st two OS/2 install disks. The basic item about SWAPPATH is still open: coding 'SWAPPATH=D:\OS2\SYSTEM 32000 2048' hangs my system during boot and I don't know why. I am trying to work it thru 237-5511. Bruce Ferrero (Aetna) ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 17:52:28 on 92/08/13 GMT (by CNADLER at WMAVM1) Subject: SWAPPATH parms and Lost EAs Ref: Append at 17:24:23 on 92/08/13 GMT (by NAAG8T6 at OS2CUST) Could it be that the first parameter in SWAPPATH=... is the amount of disk space left before the system says it is out of resources? I am assuming that you want a starting swap size of 32000, and a 2048 left before the swapper reports out of memory errors. Cliff Nadler GO TEAM OS/2! Systems Integration and Services Rockville, MD IBM Federal Systems Company PROFS: NADLER at WMAVM7 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 18:41:39 on 92/08/13 GMT (by NAAG8T6 at OS2CUST) Subject: SWAPPATH parms and Lost EAs Ref: Append at 17:52:28 on 92/08/13 GMT (by CNADLER at WMAVM1) Right, the 1st parm is free space on disk, the 2nd is initial size. I want 32000 2048 in that order, at least now I want to know why I lock up! Can anyone check if they lock up also? Is anything wrong with 32000? I have about 50 megs free on D: which is the OS/2 boot drive. Bruce Ferrero (Aetna) ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 01:59:21 on 92/08/17 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) Subject: SHARE Button..... Button seen at SCIDS at SHARE 79: Windows is a Pain in the Glass.. Lionel Dyck - Rockwell International, Information Systems Center ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 19:21:51 on 92/08/18 GMT (by ROK2070 at OS2CUST) Subject: Unusable 360k floppy drive One of my OS/2 2.0 users is having trouble with his 360kb diskette drive. Here is the description of the problem: He has a 386 IBM clone with a 3.5" floppy in drive a: and a 360K, 5 and 1/4" floppy in drive b:. While drive b: works well under DOS, OS/2 does not recognize it. If he tries to open it, the system sends error message SYS0045, "Drive B: Cannot find the sector requested". Asking for help, the longer explanation is that the diskette may not be properly inserted, etc. In short, OS/2 does not find the drive. To make matters worse, the system freezes after sending this message and he has to restart his computer. Unfortunately, this problem was not fixed by installing the corresponding fix that came in file 360K.ZIP. We followed the indicated procedure, which consisted of replacing file \OS2\IBM1FLPY.ADD with the new one supplied and rebooting the system, but installing this fix made no difference. Does anyone have any suggestions I can pass on to him? Ron Palmer, Rockwell International, Rocketdyne Division ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 01:31:10 on 92/08/19 GMT (by ALLT001 at OS2CUST) Subject: Unusable 360k floppy drive Ref: Append at 19:21:51 on 92/08/18 GMT (by ROK2070 at OS2CUST) This is a known problem. APAR PJ03939 describes it perfectly (at least in my case). This APAR is also now closed but the fix code isn't anywhere to be found yet. How about it IBM? Can we have this fix to download? Bruce M. Ferry, ALLTEL Corporation ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 13:44:50 on 92/08/19 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Unusable 360k floppy drive Ref: Append at 19:21:51 on 92/08/18 GMT (by ROK2070 at OS2CUST) Could you please try this on the new .ADD file, and let me know if it works -- BASEDEV=IBM1FLPY.ADD /U:1 /F:360KB I though I had a list of switches/parameters for the device driver, but I can't find it or I'm confused with another fix. I got this from the developer. Irv Spalten BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 13:51:56 on 92/08/19 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Unusable 360k floppy drive Ref: Append at 19:21:51 on 92/08/18 GMT (by ROK2070 at OS2CUST) Found the file, here is it. It should have been part of the zip file, did I forget it? IBM1FLPY Beta Driver ------------------- This driver corrects a number of problems in parsing command line parameters. Use of the command line options provided below may correct compatibility problems with OEM supplied equipment. The revised OS2DASD.DMD provided should be installed when this this driver is installed. The original IBM1FLPY and OS2DASD binaries should be retained. The driver enclosed is an 'internal development version' and is not currently part of the OS/2 product. Customers are encouraged to discuss OS/2 compatibility problems with their controller supplier since they are best equipped to assist in resolving compatibility problems with IBM. IBM1FLPY Command Line Parameters -------------------------------- BASEDEV=IBM1FLPY.ADD /MCA - Load on uChannel Machine /A: - Adapter ID <0 - 1> /IRQ: - Interrupt Level <0 - n> /DMA: - DMA Channel Number <0 - n> /P: - Controller I/O Address <hhhh> /U: - Drive Number <0 - 3> /F: - Drive Capacity <360KB...2.88MB> /CL: - Changeline Type <NONE,AT,PS2> /SPEC: - Controller Specify Bytes <hh,hh> Command Line Paramters - General Information -------------------------------------------- IBM1FLPY normally obtains diskette drive information from the host system BIOS. If the information supplied by the host system is incorrect or if the BIOS does not support a third or fourth floppy drive, it may be necessary to provide this information on the IBM1FLPY command line. In addition, command line parameters may be used to support a second installed floppy controller which would not normally have host system BIOS support. Examples: Define a third 1.2MB Floppy drive: BASEDEV=IBM1FLPY.ADD /A:0 /U:2 /F:1.2MB Override the ChangeLine type for the (B:) drive BASEDEV=IBM1FLPY.ADD /A:0 /U:1 /CL:NONE Support a 1.2MB OEM drive attached to a uChannel machine: rem BASEDEV=IBM2FLPY.ADD BASEDEV=IBM1FLPY.ADD /MCA /A:0 /U:1 /F:1.2MB Note: The /MCA option is required on MicroChannel systems. If it is not specified, the driver will automatically deinstall itself. Support a second installed floppy controller: BASEDEV=IBM1FLPY.ADD BASEDEV=IBM1FLPY.ADD /A:0 /DMA:3 /IRQ:10 /P:370 /U:0 /F:1.44MB --+ +-----------+ +----/U:1 /F:1.2MB Note: Choices of /DMA, /IRQ and /P depend on the supplier of the floppy controller. Consult the supplier of the controller for the appropriate settings for these values. The first drive supported by the second controller will be assigned B: if this drive letter is available. Specifing /A:1 will cause the second controller to be assigned drive other than A: or B:. If your ZIP file does not exist, or does NOT include the REQUIRED OS2DASD.DMD file, it is BACKLEVEL and I'll need to update it. I have a feeling that I have NOT done this, or I only uploaded it to CIS... Irv Spalten BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 14:01:52 on 92/08/19 GMT (by DGDANGEL at NYCVMIC1) Subject: OS/2 Version_2 Doesn't recognize Logical Drives on a M95. This is the first time I have experienced this with version 2. My client just installed the base code last night and their logical drives did not show up except for one. The following is the configuration: Configuration: 8595 - ?BX 16 RAM (2) 320 SCSI Drives Token-Ring C : Primary D - M : Logical What we did: 1) C is 32 megabytes. C was formated clean. 2.0 was installed with a selective install on C. When we were done the only logical drive accessable was M:. 2) We ran an FDISK. C: Primary FAT D - L : Unformatted M: Logical - FAT 3) We booted with a 1.3 install diskette and escaped out to the prompt: Now, all disk were accessable and formated to FS:FAT. 4) We booted with a DOS diskette and were able to access all disk. We contacted the support center they told us we may have and older model and the ECA needs to be more recent. Is this true? Has anyone else experienced this on a model 95? Is there a fix? Or is the fix the ECA? Please let me know. DGDANGEL/NYCVMIC1 DGDANGEL@VNET.IBM.COM Doug D'Angelo ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 14:43:10 on 92/08/19 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Unusable 360k floppy drive Ref: Append at 13:51:56 on 92/08/19 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) :RED FACE ON No I didn't forget to update anyone. I got the fix from the developer, and they are sitting on my VM ADISK, work system, and home system, ready to go, but I had to hold them. NOT TESTED. They have been built, and I'm waiting for the official tested fix before I let it go... Sorry to either confuse you or get your hopes up, should be soon, but I have NO target date. :RED FACE OFF Irv Spalten BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 14:46:05 on 92/08/21 GMT (by AABO1CY at OS2CUST) Subject: Minimized icon to desktop placement. Am running an OEM 3270 emulation program in a DOS window. This program is start ed automatically by the startup folder. The desktop icon view is in flowed mode . The first time I minimize the window the icon is placed in the lower left corner of the screen, over the top of another icon. I would like the icon to appear in another area of the desktop. I can move the icon to where I want but, is there any way that I can specify where I want an icon for a window minimized to the desktop to appear???????? smortve IDOT ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 22:39:09 on 92/08/21 GMT (by THRUMD at SYDVM1) Subject: Minimized icon to desktop placement. Ref: Append at 14:46:05 on 92/08/21 GMT (by AABO1CY at OS2CUST) An alternative approach is to not specify "minimise to desktop". Instead, place the object you use to start the program (or a shadow of it) on the desktop in whatever position you want it to go. Then just click on this object to switch to the application. Dave ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 00:43:48 on 92/08/22 GMT (by IL11901 at OS2CUST) Subject: CommandLine 2.0 If you have CommandLine 1.1, you're entitled to a free upgrade. Please let us know who you are, especially if you've bought through a catalog, as we would have NO idea who you are. Thanks. We'll consider everyone who actually wants to buy version 2.0, too<g> Steve Dacek - Soft & GUI Inc ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 18:21:46 on 92/08/25 GMT (by IL19609 at OS2CUST) Subject: ICON editor I seem to have developed a problem with the program ICONEDIT.EXE. Whenever I try and invoke it, it beeps once, and returns to where ever I tried to run it. I've tried the command line, and from within SETTINGS/GENERAL/CREATE NEW|EDIT.. Has anyone else run into this ? Thanks in advance... Scott Russell ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 21:45:20 on 92/08/25 GMT (by GOBEILLE at WSCVM) Subject: ICON editor Ref: Append at 18:21:46 on 92/08/25 GMT (by IL19609 at OS2CUST) Scott, did you upgrade from an earlier version of OS/2? On my system, this was caused by an entry in an INI file that the current version of ICONEDIT doesn't need (or want). To fix this, run this REXX file. (No, I didn't write it. This was sent to me by an IBMer in Lexington) ICONFIX.CMD /* rexx - delete an application entry from OS2.INI */ Call RxFuncAdd 'SysLoadFuncs', 'RexxUtil', 'SysLoadFuncs'; Call SysLoadFuncs; Call SysIni 'USER', 'IconEdit 2.0', 'DELETE:'; Janet Gobeille - Washington Systems Center ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 03:27:13 on 92/08/26 GMT (by ROK2070 at OS2CUST) Subject: Unusable 360k floppy drive Ref: Append at 13:51:56 on 92/08/19 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) The 340K.ZIP file indeed contained a new version of IBM1FPLY.ADD only, missing a new version of file OS2DASD.DMD. When we tried replacing the line BASEDEV=IBM1FLPY.ADD which was in the CONFIG.SYS file, with the extended line BASEDEV=IBM1FLPY.ADD /U:1 /F:360KB the system reported the error message "missing IBM1FLPY.ADD", although the file was not missing. I suppose this was due to some inconsistency between the new IBM1FLPY.ADD and the old OS2DASD.DMD. In conclusion, we will have to wait for a complete fix, but we thank you very much Irv Spalten for trying. Ron Palmer, Rockwell International, Rocketdyne Division ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 03:57:19 on 92/08/26 GMT (by ROK2070 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 hangs on power-on; CNTL-ALT-DEL needed to start Ref: Append at 17:03:11 on 92/06/17 GMT (by BRETT at RALVM5) I do not have the CM in my STARTUP folder, nor in my STARTUP.CMD - I do leave it active when I shut down - and it (usually) starts when I re-boot my machine. BUT, around one in four startups results in a hangup - it paints the background color for my desktop, then stops all activity. No icons, no folders. I can hit CTRL-ESC, it tells me that the Desktop is not responding, I select ENTER to cancel it, and it brings up icons (no windows, no CM). Just to be "safe", I usually perform a Shutdown and re-boot, then it comes up cleanly (most of the time). I'll see what happens if I shut down the CM before Shutdown and put it in my STARTUP.CMD file. BTW - I have a PS/2 mod 70 A21 with 8 megs RAM and CM configured for 5 3270 sessions. Ron Palmer, Rockwell International, Rocketdyne Division ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 20:23:31 on 92/08/26 GMT (by PPL0013 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 hangs on power-in; CNTL-ALT-DEL needed to start We had a very similar problem, although in most cases not even a colored background appeared; the system would hang with a black screen. Some PCs got so bad they would not boot at all. This happened on both Compaqs and IBM PS/2s. We finally appear to have located the problem: Kingston memory. After replacing the Kingston memory in six PCs, the problem was corrected, although on some systems it didn't go away completely until we reinstalled OS/2. Sally Hiestand, Pennsylvania Power & Light ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 12:59:11 on 92/08/28 GMT (by IL19609 at OS2CUST) Subject: ICON editor Ref: Append at 21:45:20 on 92/08/25 GMT (by GOBEILLE at WSCVM) Thanks Janet, I'll try that... Scott Russell ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 02:17:33 on 92/08/30 GMT (by ALLT001 at OS2CUST) Subject: 360K B: fix (PJ03939) Still doesn't solve problems Well, it's better but it still doesn't work right. If I keep retrying it eventually reads everything. Problems seem to happen in the higher tracks. I have added '/A:0 /U:1 /F:360KB' on the device driver line in my CONFIG.SYS. Do I need something more? I will get a chance to disconnect the CMS tape drive sometime in the next few days but this shouldn't be the answer. This exact same machine worked fine with OS/2 1.3 (and still does) and DOS 5.0. I NEED A REAL FIX FOR THIS! Bruce M. Ferry, ALLTEL Corporation ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 22:27:35 on 92/08/30 GMT (by HNDERSON at AUSVM8) Subject: SWAPPATH parms and Lost EAs Ref: Append at 17:24:23 on 92/08/13 GMT (by NAAG8T6 at OS2CUST) Bruce, I thought the first parameter was a flag to warn the user when the avaible space on DASD reached a certain point, the second parameter is How much space you want swapper to start with. ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 22:59:38 on 92/08/31 GMT (by USBC238 at OS2CUST) Subject: Missing Templates I have a user who somehow "lost" his Network Printer Template. What is the easiest way to get it back? I've tried to recreate it with the makeini utility with no success. Any suggestions? Charles Boyce - US Bank, Portland OR ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 01:38:15 on 92/09/01 GMT (by THRUMD at SYDVM1) Subject: Missing Templates Ref: Append at 22:59:38 on 92/08/31 GMT (by USBC238 at OS2CUST) Have you tried dragging a printer from the network folder to the templates folder, then open-->settings-->general: check template on? (speculation only - haven't actually done this myself..) Dave ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 01:45:25 on 92/09/01 GMT (by BRYAN at BCRVMPC1) ..... OS2BASE CFORUM modified at 01:48:26 on 92/09/01 GMT (by BRYAN at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Missing Templates Ref: Append at 22:59:38 on 92/08/31 GMT (by USBC238 at OS2CUST) Make sure the network folder is open. At least on my system, the network printer template seemed to come and go depending on whether I opened the network folder. I finally stuck the network folder into the startup folder and haven't lost track of the network printer template since. Barry Bryan ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 02:03:45 on 92/09/01 GMT (by NAAG8T6 at OS2CUST) Subject: SWAPPATH parms and Lost EAs Ref: Append at 22:27:35 on 92/08/30 GMT (by HNDERSON at AUSVM8) Yes, IBM also tells me the 1st parm must be in the range 512 to 32767. It's just that my machine hangs during boot when that parm is about 31000 or more, despite having 50 megs or so free. I opened a problem with IBM on it but haven't heard. It doesn't happen on all machines. I'm also curious about just what the 'warning' is and when it happens (I've never seen it). Bruce Ferrero @ Aetna, Middletown, CT ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 14:16:44 on 92/09/01 GMT (by HARGRAVE at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Missing Templates Ref: Append at 01:45:25 on 92/09/01 GMT (by BRYAN at BCRVMPC1) Alternately, keep the Network Folder on your desktop. BJ Hargrave ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 15:06:09 on 92/09/01 GMT (by IL10790 at OS2CUST) Subject: DIR NAMES WITH SPACES? If you format your HD in OS/2 2.0 with HPFS your desktop directory looks something like this OS!2 2.0 Desktop Ok So Here's the dumb question. how do you change to that Directory using the CD command at the OS Command Prompt when it wont recognize the spaces. All I g et is Errors when I type ..........[C:\] CD \OS!2 2.0 Desktop (enter) I am wa nting to backup up one system and restore it onto another OS/2 system for mass site distribution. Hmmmmmmmmm. Help Help Me Rhonda Ric Lumbard / Amana Refrigeration RLBARD ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 15:26:06 on 92/09/01 GMT (by KENKAHN at PKSMRVM) Subject: DIR NAMES WITH SPACES? Ref: Append at 15:06:09 on 92/09/01 GMT (by IL10790 at OS2CUST) Try CD "OS!2 2.0 Desktop" Kenneth Kahn Staff of IBM Fellow/NetWork Computing Poughkeepsie, NY Internet: KENKAHN@PKSMRVM.VNET.IBM.COM IBMMAIL: USIB25P9 at IBMMAIL ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 15:28:12 on 92/09/01 GMT (by TKAL at PKEDVM9) Subject: DIR NAMES WITH SPACES? Ref: Append at 15:06:09 on 92/09/01 GMT (by IL10790 at OS2CUST) You need to put quotes around a directory name that has spaces: cd "\os!2 2.0 desktop" -- Erik Tkal -- HSM System and Service Consoles -- TEAMOS2 -- ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 15:29:26 on 92/09/01 GMT (by CNADLER at WMAVM1) Subject: DIR NAMES WITH SPACES? Ref: Append at 15:06:09 on 92/09/01 GMT (by IL10790 at OS2CUST) CD "\OS!2 2.0 Desktop" Cliff Nadler GO TEAM OS/2! Systems Integration and Services Rockville, MD IBM Federal Systems Company PROFS: NADLER at WMAVM7 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 15:37:33 on 92/09/01 GMT (by ERC at TUCVM2) -- Subject: Clock Error says Drive E not Ready I am running OS2 2.0 on a Mod 95. I have a 3.5" rewritable optical drive installed as drive E. I put the Clock and the Alarms icons in the startup folder. When I startup I get a error message before the workplace shell is displayed from the CLock program. It says that Drive E is not Ready and gives options to Return error code to program, etc. The system starts up okay after I hit ENTER. Why does the clock program care anything about Drive E? Thanks Ed Childers ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 15:40:46 on 92/09/01 GMT (by KOLSKY at HAIFASC3) ..... OS2BASE CFORUM modified at 16:21:25 on 92/09/01 GMT (by KOLSKY at HAIFASC3) ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 15:42:11 on 92/09/01 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) Subject: DIR NAMES WITH SPACES? Ref: Append at 15:06:09 on 92/09/01 GMT (by IL10790 at OS2CUST) You put the name in quotes. either "C:\OS!2 2.0 Desktop" or C:\"OS!2 2.0 Desktop" Nathan Davis ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 20:01:31 on 92/09/01 GMT (by XXFRID01 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Poor performance with multiple DOS Full Screen sessions I am a new user of OS/2. I am trying to provide facilities I had under DOS 5.5 shell. So I have three DOS full-screen sessions with FTTERM, WordStar, and another DOS package going. With all 3 going at once, response time on FTTERM is EXTREMELY slow. With FTTERM and only one other, it is reasonable. I have 16M 486SX. Any ideas??? Geoff Fridd, IBM Software Specialist (CICS) ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 21:30:46 on 92/09/01 GMT (by SQUIRES at DALVM41B) Subject: Using clipboard to move text from OS2 Apps to WINOS2 Apps Ref: NONE I am having problems using the clipboard to move text from OS/2 applications to WINOS2 applications. For example I want to move text from a PROFS note to my WordPrefect document. I can't get this to work. I am able to move text from WP to the 3270 session. I have also tried other PM applications like Lotus 123 for OS/2 and just can't get text moved thru the clipboard from PM ===> WINOS2. Please help if you can. Thanks. squires at dalvm41b ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 21:45:49 on 92/09/01 GMT (by XXBCTE25 at TORVMCOP) Subject: DIR NAMES WITH SPACES? Ref: Append at 15:06:09 on 92/09/01 GMT (by IL10790 at OS2CUST) You'll probably get a dozen replies to this, but I couldn't resist answering a question I know the answer to. <g>. Try enclosing the path name in double quotes. eg. c:cd "OS!2 2.0 Desktop" Claude Biron ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 22:19:13 on 92/09/01 GMT (by THRUMD at SYDVM1) Subject: Poor performance with multiple DOS Full Screen sessions Ref: Append at 20:01:31 on 92/09/01 GMT (by XXFRID01 at TORVMCOP) Multiple DOS sessions can be a problem sometimes. The reason is to do with the ability of OS/2 to correctly detect when the DOS session is idle, or really doing work. Since DOS is a single- tasking OS, most DOS apps when they are idle actually go into a loop waiting for something to do, for example polling the keyboard for input. OS/2 is designed to detect this, but because of the variety of techniques used by DOS applications to wait for something to do while idle, it is not possible to do so with 100% accuracy. Add three different DOS apps, and the problem is possibly magnified threefold. What you can try is to adjust the DOS settings for Idle Sensitivity and Idle Detection to see whether you can get a better result overall. If you adjust one at a time with the Pulse applet active, you should be able to see quite "graphically" the effect of your changes. Dave ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 00:08:05 on 92/09/02 GMT (by ERC at TUCVM2) -- Subject:Win-os2 Application problem I have a mod 90 with a xga card and a 8514 monitor. I am trying to run MATHCAD which is a windows application. I have set the DPMI memory limit to 64, etc.(suggestions mentioned in other forums) to get the program to run. I can start the program without problem. In fact, I can start two independent sessions at the same time without having problems. If I end the program and try to restart I get the message NOT ENOUGH MEMORY - TRY STOPING OTHER WINDOWS PROGRAMS AND RETRY. This occurs after win-os2 has started and MATHCAD is loading. I don't have any other applications running. Why does it let me start up the first time and not after stopping the program? Thanks Ed Childers ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 02:51:51 on 92/09/02 GMT (by WZ00781 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 Stalls and Locks up when Launching a program Ref: Append at 18:30:55 on 92/06/10 GMT (by AABB0FC at OS2CUST) Hello Larry, I am running 2.0 on a 8590-0G9 with 12mb ram. 8mb is Cumulus memory. I have been experiencing deadlocks when using MS Excel 3.0 for PM. The support center has identified an APAR that was closed as a machine check against the 8590 mouse. I am escalating through field engineering. I am not certain that the mouse problem is an exact match, but it is very close. My problem can only be cleared by a power off. Does this sound like your problem? Dave Hancock, Publix Super Markets ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 05:20:13 on 92/09/02 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Poor performance with multiple DOS Full Screen sessions Ref: Append at 20:01:31 on 92/09/01 GMT (by XXFRID01 at TORVMCOP) Try to adjust the EMS¢XMS¢DPMI settings (beside other tipps you've got). If any of them is not using, why to allocate and swap out?. The last time I used Wordstar it was 3.3 (My hand still remembers the ^K^B....) Maybe it doesn't need the memory . You can change the Idle sensitivity to the comm program. Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 NHO-32 801-7th Ave Calgary, Alberta, CANADA T2P 2N6 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 13:40:33 on 92/09/02 GMT (by G0823 at OS2CUST) Subject: HPFS Fixes In the middle of June 92, there was a fix to the HPFS.IFS file placed into the OS/2 Selective Fixes section of BBS. This fix corrected SWAPPER.DAT problems reported by CHKDSK. On 8/28/92 version 1.01 of this fix appeared...I downloaded this fix and when I compared it to the original HPFS.IFS...the size of the file was the same. The file date of the first fix is 6/18/92, and the second fix is dated 8/28/92...both are 125,520 bytes. The README file associated with both fixes is the same also. My question is...Does the second version of HPFS.IFS fix something not in the first version? Generally, updates usually result in a change in file size one way or the other...or the README file is updated to reflect the enhancements. I do not want to spend the time to place this fix on machines if it is not necessary to do so. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks. Terry Hillard ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 15:30:29 on 92/09/02 GMT (by SHOULDIC at TUCVM1) Subject: Poor performance with multiple DOS Full Screen sessions Ref: Append at 05:20:13 on 92/09/02 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) My understanding is that the system does not physically give you the space you allocate until you touch it. Therefore allocating a large block does not use up memory (a little system resources, but not much). Now I heard of an app, that actually goes out and touchs all the pages just "to make sure that they are there" which causes quite the thrashing at load time, but that is not typical. Least that is the way I've got it figured out. Ken ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 19:45:08 on 92/09/02 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: HPFS Fixes Ref: Append at 13:40:33 on 92/09/02 GMT (by G0823 at OS2CUST) Use the comp.exe to compare them. I was confused too, but the binary HPFS.IFS is NOT the same in June-Aug. Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 NHO-32 801-7th Ave Calgary, Alberta, CANADA T2P 2N6 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 02:10:06 on 92/09/03 GMT (by HNDERSON at AUSVM8) Subject: HPFS Fixes Ref: Append at 13:40:33 on 92/09/02 GMT (by G0823 at OS2CUST) Terry, I'm the one who update the OS/2 Selective fix Announcement I don't believe there was any change to the fix in question. BUT I will check it out and post the answer here. (gee I thought I was up to date and somebody had to wake me up! (<^) ) __ __ ___ __ __ _ _ | |_| | / \ | \| | | |./ / Hank Henderson HNDERSON at AUSVM8 | _ | / _~_ \ Sincerely | . < on Assignment to OS/2 BBS (TEAMOS2) |__| |__| /_/ \_\ |__|\__| |_| \_\ Tie:8-793-8647 Austin, Texas LNK1SM7 @ IBMLINK - OS/2 BBS ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 13:11:22 on 92/09/03 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST) Subject: DIR /R Having seen all the DIR specialists <G>, a question: Does the DIR /R (.LONGNAME) option work??? Dan Lundy Time Customer Service, Inc. Tampa, Fl ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 18:26:05 on 92/09/03 GMT (by XXCDSX26 at TORVMCOP) Subject: DIR /R Ref: Append at 13:11:22 on 92/09/03 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST) Dan: On my machine it works in DOS but NOT in OS/2. CMDREF.INF does NOT tell you about this "limitation". Michael Harper - Cdn Depository for Securities, Ltd ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 21:39:52 on 92/09/03 GMT (by XXBCTE25 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Stalling problem Does anyone have an update on the "stalling problem" that had discussed here at great length a couple of weeks ago? Claude Biron ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 00:42:40 on 92/09/04 GMT (by NANR6GN at OS2CUST) Subject: HPFS Fixes Ref: Append at 02:10:06 on 92/09/03 GMT (by HNDERSON at AUSVM8) Hank: I downloaded this latest fix and it doen't work. When I run a chkdsk againstmy Swapper drive it give me error's. I backed it off to the previous fix dated6-18-92 at 2:31p it happens to be the same size as this new fix, but I did a compare and they do not match. Cesar Ventura ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 04:07:33 on 92/09/04 GMT (by ROK2070 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 hangs on power-on; CNTL-ALT-DEL needed to start Ref: Append at 03:57:19 on 92/08/26 GMT (by ROK2070 at OS2CUST) The hang-up-during-start-up problem has gotten worse; it gets stuck around 2/3 of the time now - regardless of what I do with the start-up folder or STARTUP.CMD - both with and without the CM. Is there any way to test the RAM chips that I have installed (short of getting some spares and swapping them)? It seems that problems occur only during boot-up (both power-on and CTRL-ALT-DEL); once I get it started, everything works smoothly. During startup: The system paints the background color and mouse pointer, runs the STARTUP.CMD, there is a lot of disk activity for about 1/2 minute, then everything goes quite. If I hit CTRL-ESC, it tells me the Desktop is not responding; I tell it to terminate the Desktop, then start-up continues, bringing up icons only. I must manually start everything from the icons. It's a PS/2 mod 70 A21, 8 megs RAM on motherboard, hard-disk formatted HPFS (three partitions: MOST, C: = OS/2 1.3, D: = OS/2 2.0), 3270/A card, 8514/A monitor. HELP !! Ron Palmer, Rockwell International, Rocketdyne Division ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 12:50:44 on 92/09/04 GMT (by SAMI3QU at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 hangs on power-on; CNTL-ALT-DEL needed to start Ref: Append at 04:07:33 on 92/09/04 GMT (by ROK2070 at OS2CUST) Ron, I had a very similar problem on my 386/33 clone. I put on the latest kernel fix and the BLKICO fix and (coincidentally?) my startup problems disappeared. Mark Thompson - Coal Services Corp. St. Louis, MO ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 14:41:46 on 92/09/04 GMT (by 19HCONF1 at RALVM17) Subject: OS/2 hangs on power-on; CNTL-ALT-DEL needed to start Ref: Append at 12:50:44 on 92/09/04 GMT (by SAMI3QU at OS2CUST) I have all the latest fixes. If there is anything in my startup folder, It hangs 90% of the time. If I put everything I want to start in STARTUP.CMD It never hangs. Steven M. Geisler, SER Tools Delivery and Conferencing Support, Charlotte ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 17:24:02 on 92/09/04 GMT (by XXNOVA01 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Boot Sector Corruption I am having problems with my C: Boot Sector being corrupted, causing a low-level format and reinstall. The cause seems to be related to booting the machine from floppy, either DOS(4/5) and/or the reference disk (1.11) Config is ps2/70-e61(6MB); 386 Mem Adap (4MB); Future Domain SCSI; TokRng Floppy has DOS, TokRng, and FD SCSI drivers. I read here that the Mem adapter writes info to boot sector (via Ref Disk!). Can anybody tell me what the floppy is writing to cause the corruption?? (PS.I did check for viruses) Perci Hala Nova Corp 403-541-4614 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 17:48:11 on 92/09/04 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: DIR /R Ref: Append at 18:26:05 on 92/09/03 GMT (by XXCDSX26 at TORVMCOP) I checked the 'dir /r' on a blue PCDOS 5.0 ad it is not working either. What is this /R switch for? Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 NHO-32 801-7th Ave Calgary, Alberta, CANADA T2P 2N6 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 19:46:38 on 92/09/04 GMT (by NORD at BCRVMPC1) Subject: DIR /R Ref: Append at 17:48:11 on 92/09/04 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) I think it works only in the MVDM sessions of OS/2 2.0. That is, not in straight DOS 5.0 Either way, its still strange that it doesn't work in a OS/2 window. Hum. Maybe there is more to this. Joe Nord ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 23:36:16 on 92/09/04 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST) Subject: DIR /R Ref: Append at 19:46:38 on 92/09/04 GMT (by NORD at BCRVMPC1) More DIR /R investigation.... Thanks for the MVDM steering! However, I noticed that while DIR /R does display what I am assuming are .LONGNAME attributes for some files. It ONLY displays them for files that are named using the dos 8.3 convention. HPFS file names don't show up. I assume this is (Working as Designed) since DOS does not recognize HPFS file names - BUT if the file conforms to 8.3 - THEN DIR /R will display the associated .LONGNAME attribute if there is one. I guess this is useful for files moved to FAT from HPFS (alafloppies, etc). The humorous side is that I have become such an avid OS/2 fan I never use a DOS command line and just assumed the command didn't work! What would be more useful is /R showing HPFS filenames while IN a DOS session! Dan Lundy Time Customer Service, Inc. Tampa, Fl ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 06:46:02 on 92/09/05 GMT (by IL06950 at OS2CUST) Subject: Display of current HELP Setting Is there a simple way to display the current system value of the "SET HELP=..." definition, like the environment values given by PATH and DPATH? Bill Soong, Univ of Hawaii Comp Ctr ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 14:26:51 on 92/09/05 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST) Subject: Display of current HELP Setting Ref: Append at 06:46:02 on 92/09/05 GMT (by IL06950 at OS2CUST) BILL, The only OS mechanisms I am aware of is to type SET on the command line with no parameters and hit enter. This is only slightly useful as it dumps EVERY variable that has been SET in the system. To make is more readable, use SET | MORE This will pause the screen you can scan the displayed list. On a system cofigured for ES and development (like mine) the display can be about 3 pages long! Be aware that typing SET varname = will remove the varname from the system. IBM: SET varname - a command that would display the SET for the single varname would be very useful. Dan Lundy Time Customer Service, Inc. Tampa, Fl ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 15:38:17 on 92/09/05 GMT (by SDETWEIL at DETVMIC4) Subject: Display of current HELP Setting Ref: Append at 06:46:02 on 92/09/05 GMT (by IL06950 at OS2CUST) Sure, write this little rexx batch file /* SHOWENV.CMD */ arg varname . if varname<>'' then say varname || '=' || value(varname,,'OS2ENVIRONMENT') Then to get a specific environment variable type showenv help showenv include etc.. Sam ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 15:47:19 on 92/09/05 GMT (by CNADLER at WMAVM1) ..... OS2BASE CFORUM modified at 15:49:51 on 92/09/05 GMT (by CNADLER at WMAVM1) Subject: Display of current HELP Setting Ref: Append at 14:26:51 on 92/09/05 GMT (by TCSC086 at OS2CUST) Write a little REXX.CMD file calle query.cmd =======================START OF QUERY.CMD===================== /* REXX CMD file to query environment variable */ arg varname vardata = value( varname,,'OS2ENVIRONMENT') if (vardata <> '') then say varname'='vardata else say varname 'not defined.' exit =====================END OF QUERY.CMD======================== Cliff Nadler GO TEAM OS/2! Systems Integration and Services Rockville, MD IBM Federal Systems Company PROFS: NADLER at WMAVM7 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 13:08:48 on 92/09/08 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Subject: HPFS Fixes Ref: Append at 02:10:06 on 92/09/03 GMT (by HNDERSON at AUSVM8) Hank, you may post them, but I deliver them, and this fix IS different. It has some more fixes, and should help more people. There are still open HPFS problems, so it will NOT cure everyone. This fix is the same selective fix that an analysist would send out if a user reported a problem. If it does not seem to work, you will have to reformat I have been told. Irv Spalten BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 13:25:34 on 92/09/08 GMT (by IOWA09 at OS2CUST) Subject: ICONS DISAPPEAR WITH MOVE FUNCTION When I move an icon from my DOS programs window to my Additional DOS programs the ICON disappears. If I use the find function it finds the icon but it does not appear in the window. Can you tell me what is happening to cause this? ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 16:59:52 on 92/09/08 GMT (by NORD at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Display of current HELP Setting Ref: Append at 06:46:02 on 92/09/05 GMT (by IL06950 at OS2CUST) Also an option: echo %HELP% Joe Nord ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 22:43:40 on 92/09/08 GMT (by IL06950 at OS2CUST) Subject: Re: Display of current HELP Setting Thanks to All for your suggestions. I must learn some REXX-OS/2 soon. Bill Soong, Univ of Hawaii Comp Ctr ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 10:49:06 on 92/09/09 GMT (by NANR6GN at OS2CUST) Subject: HPFS Fixes Ref: Append at 13:08:48 on 92/09/08 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Irv, I have tried this fix and it doesn't work! Since my swap file is on it's own 35 meg HPFS partion, I even reformated. Still didn't work. I went back to the previous fix and all is well again. There were no problems doing fixed disk against the OS/2 System partion though (100 meg HPFS). Cesar Ventura ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 14:16:27 on 92/09/09 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Subject: HPFS Fixes Ref: Append at 10:49:06 on 92/09/09 GMT (by NANR6GN at OS2CUST) I can only guess your problem then is one of the open ones... Irv Spalten BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 19:01:30 on 92/09/10 GMT (by ROK2070 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 hangs on power-on; CNTL-ALT-DEL needed to start Ref: Append at 14:41:46 on 92/09/04 GMT (by 19HCONF1 at RALVM17) It works !! I removed everything from the Startup folder and the system starts with no problems. Putting things into the STARTUP.CMD seems to work ok. IBM: Why doesn't the Startup folder work??? Ron Palmer, Rockwell International, Rocketdyne Division ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 00:48:54 on 92/09/11 GMT (by HNDERSON at AUSVM8) Subject: HPFS Fixes Ref: Append at 13:08:48 on 92/09/08 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Irv, I know you do, And I make sure the files and Text files all agree. My post said That I wasn't aware and would check it out! And after some research it look like the file had changed. Ok? ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 12:54:18 on 92/09/11 GMT (by PERSHNG at YKTVMH) Subject: OS/2 hangs on power-on; CNTL-ALT-DEL needed to start Ref: Append at 19:01:30 on 92/09/10 GMT (by ROK2070 at OS2CUST) OS/2 appears to be sensitive to the size of memory. I just upgraded from 10 Megs to 16 Megs, and things have definitely gotten better. I suspect that it isn't very good at swapping (there have been a number of bugs found that were related to swapping). It also seems to help if you (1) figure out how big of a SWAPPER file it needs for normal operation, (2) add in a 25% fudge factor, and (3) change the SWAPPATH= line in CONFIG.SYS so that it will pre-allocate the entire SWAPPER file in one swell foop at boot time. Then, boot from the install diskettes, ERASE the (old) SWAPPER file, and run CHKDSK *twice* with the /F:3 option (for HPFS) or the /F option (for FAT) to thoroughly clean the file system. Then try re-booting and see if things improve. If you are short of memory, then reduce the size of you disk caches. Note that there are two of these: one for the HPFS (the /C:-option on the IFS=HPFS statement) and one for the FAT file system (the DISKCACHE= card in CONFIG.SYS). It's pointless to be caching disk data if your system is paging its brains out. John A. Pershing Jr. ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 18:13:56 on 92/09/11 GMT (by XXVALC01 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Lost Settings I have several icons on my desktop for programs residing on the Server (OS/2 1.3 with Lan Manager). Quite frequently I find that my settings have disappeared (path and working directory) and I have to put them in again. Also, if is set defaults on network Drives (like small icons, always maintain sort,etc.), I mostly lose them on the next boot. Am I alone or is someone else having these problems? Tony Valenti Valcomp Technology Inc. (416) 850-9111 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 19:25:52 on 92/09/11 GMT (by RICHKULP at CARVM3) Subject: Where's code loaded? As I understood it in OS/2 1.x, code segments for an EXE where automatically shared. If an EXE is loaded twice, there would be two data segments but only one copy of the code segments in the entire system. I know that this was true for DLL's. From what I'm reading for OS/2 2.0, for EXE's this is no longer true. Each instance of the EXE would have another copy in memory of the code. Is this true? This may explain why I've noticed that multiple copies of a program take just as long to start. It used to be the second copy came in much faster. Thanks, Rich Kulp ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 01:43:40 on 92/09/12 GMT (by IL26761 at HONE84) Subject: OS/2 RECOVER COMMAND A user has inadvertantly entered the OS/2 RECOVER command with the resultant apparent destruction of his system. Is there anyway to reverse the actions of this command? And why is this thing even still on the system? Jack Hiatt Marc Life Atlanta Ga. ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 13:12:20 on 92/09/12 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Subject: HPFS Fixes Ref: Append at 00:48:54 on 92/09/11 GMT (by HNDERSON at AUSVM8) No problem. The HPFS fix is not complete yet though. Still have an open APAR on some CPS:EXTENTS and CHKDSK complaining in some cases. Even reformat does not help. Prognosis says that when the next fix comes, it WILL require a re-format. In addition, I have been getting reports that when one calls the 800# and mentions HPFS, they are told it is unstable and shouldn't be used. This is NOT TRUE, but I have been unable to track down whom is saying this. If anyone should be told this, please get a name, and post it. Thanks. Irv Spalten BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 02:53:12 on 92/09/13 GMT (by HNDERSON at AUSVM8) Subject: HPFS Fixes Ref: Append at 13:12:20 on 92/09/12 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Irv, I will take care of that, I promise! ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 00:14:01 on 92/09/14 GMT (by EDS0001 at WASVMIC1) Subject: HPFS Fixes Ref: Append at 02:53:12 on 92/09/13 GMT (by HNDERSON at AUSVM8) THANKS! I have users who call the help desk -- I have experienced it myself -- who are told that HPFS is not stable and that they will "try to help out." Consequently I get panicked calls from folks who normally have no clue wanting to go back to FAT. I don't think we need to spread this kind of panic through our support lines. If you are in charge of this, please try to get the work out QUICK that HPFS is being widely used and that short of TRUE problems requiring reformatting, they should simply deal with the problems without editorializing and without choosing reformatting as the first option. Josette Brooking ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 19:59:40 on 92/09/14 GMT (by IL41468 at OS2CUST) Subject: OS/2 hangs on power-on; CNTL-ALT-DEL needed to start Ref: Append at 12:54:18 on 92/09/11 GMT (by PERSHNG at YKTVMH) I would like to add one thing about the swapper file. If you look into the online command reference under the command SWAPPATH, you will notice a recommendation to place the swap file in a partion by itself. Formatting the partition using FAT has improved performance for me above formatting it with HPFS. (only logical when there is only one file on the logical disk). I set the swap file to 8MB's with 2MB extra in the partition and the warning to 1MB. The 8MB figure was selected as the largest the swap file had grown for me. In one of my discussions with IBM service (800-237-5511), it was indicated that a swap file that exceeds 8MB's and is active on all tasks can slow the system down. However if you are open a large number of task just to have then "hot" when you call on them your swap file could easily exceed 8MB's without serious impact. John M. Schaeffer (AIMS - Sandy, Utah) ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 20:04:46 on 92/09/14 GMT (by SDETWEIL at DETVMIC4) Subject: Lost Settings Ref: Append at 18:13:56 on 92/09/11 GMT (by XXVALC01 at TORVMCOP) The objects lose their contents cause they are REFRESHED on the next IPL, but the lan link is not up yet and they cannot be filled in. Thus they end up empty.. This problem happens as well on CD-ROM drive objects if the CD is removed and a folder is opened pointing to these objects. The problem is persistance..could the icon have changed since the last time I looked..and the answer is YES, so I must look again. I don't believe there is a fix available at this time. The bypass is to move these objects into a folder that will not be opened until AFTER the lan link is available... Sam ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 20:12:16 on 92/09/14 GMT (by BCHI052 at OS2CUST) Subject: Lost startup DLL When cold booting machine I got the following message. "The system cannot load the dynamic link library which is needed to start the system Install the dynamic link library in the root directory of the startup drive or in the directory specified in the LIBPATH command in the CONFIG.SYS file The system is stopped Correct the preceding error and restart the system" What in the world might have caused this error? I need to know ASAP. What I did next was use the INSTALL DISK AND DISK #1. I did a A:DIR C: and received a message saying something about corrupted extended attributes. At this point, in a panic, I decided to reinstall. I turned on another machine, and got the same problem. Again I reinstalled. This was at the end of the 1st day of using a newly developed (EASEL) application. Luckily, I went down to the user department to install a new version of the application after hours. If not I would have not found out until the next day when it would have been much too late to correct. I REALLY DON'T APPRECIATE WALKING ON EGGSHELLS EVERY TIME I COME TO WORK. Gerald Sasaoka - Hawaii Medical Service Association ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 20:19:06 on 92/09/14 GMT (by IL41468 at OS2CUST) Subject: HPFS Fixes Ref: Append at 00:14:01 on 92/09/14 GMT (by EDS0001 at WASVMIC1) AS to the discuusion of users being told that HPFS is unstable and you should go back to FAT, all the appends so far indicate second hand knowledge. I will add direct knowledge. I call the support center with a DOS 4.01 VBM problem. (the problem turned out to be problems in timing with a program that use the keyboard extended buufer. I turned that off and the problem disappeared). I was told by the first person a talked to that the problem was with HPFS and DOS. Also that HFPS was flakey and I should go back to FAT. On further questioning, he stated that if the program I was using was critical to our operations I should go back to DOS. After taking this for about 10 minutes, I finally ask him if he worked for uSoft or IBM. I failed however to get his name At the end of this conversation, I was on the phone to my local branch about this. I do not know where this has gone since then. We do use OS/2 in a mission critical types of applications. Our experience with OS/2 has been good. There are definitely some things in OS/2 that can cause problems so we limit the use of OS/2 only to the direct application. I wish we could allow our users to access some of the extended features in OS/2 but until the entire system is more solid, we will take the safe path. Our experience with HPFS is that its performance exceeds that of even the super-FAT in our applications (primarily high volume update and insertion in multiple files). John M. Schaeffer (AIMS - Sandy, Utah) ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 21:10:11 on 92/09/14 GMT (by XXMINC08 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Where's code loaded? Ref: Append at 19:25:52 on 92/09/11 GMT (by RICHKULP at CARVM3) Rich, There is a very good discussion of this type of stuff in the book "The Design of OS/2 Version 2.0". The answer to your question is that code segments in 2.0 do get shared. All .EXE's get loaded at the same location in low memory of the process address space. Since they are all loaded at the same virtual address, all that needs to be done by the loader is to map the page tables so they all point to the same physical location. This is different than the mechanism used to share DLL code segments, but the .exe segments are still being shared. Hope this helps ... Bill Nelson Manulife Financial ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 23:22:07 on 92/09/14 GMT (by XXVALC01 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Lost Settings Ref: Append at 20:04:46 on 92/09/14 GMT (by SDETWEIL at DETVMIC4) Thanks for the response, but that is not exactly my problem. I am content to live with the lost icons, and I understand why they are lost. What I believe is a "bug" is that my PATH settings are randomly disappearing. It happens on my C drive as well, although seems to happen more frequently with network drives. In some cases, the path will remain correct but the WORKING DIRECTORY setting will disappear. Tony Valenti Valcomp Technology Inc. (416) 850-9111 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 15:40:54 on 92/09/15 GMT (by 19HCONF1 at RALVM17) Subject: Lost startup DLL Ref: Append at 20:12:16 on 92/09/14 GMT (by BCHI052 at OS2CUST) When I got that msg (after a hung system and boot w/o shutdown), I had to boot from the install disk, ESC to the command prompt. Insert disk 2. Run CHKDSK /F (or /F:3 for HPFS). This corrected the EA problem and the system booted fine. Steven M. Geisler, SER Tools Delivery and Conferencing Support, Charlotte ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 16:07:15 on 92/09/15 GMT (by IL04688 at OS2CUST) Subject: Lost Startup DLL On a 486sx clone I have at home I was getting the Lost Startup DLL message almost every time I would boot. I could fix it by booting OS/2 2.0 from floppy and running CHKDSK /F, but the time I powered-up I would run into it again. So I reinstalled, formatting the OS/2 boot partition only as HPFS. I redirected Swapper.dat to a FAT partition and installed all of the fixes available as of late August. And I find that migrate no longer works. I strongly suspect the August HPFS.IFS driver. Since OS/2 1.x days we noticed that with autocheck HPFS will scan your drives and any files it thinks may be bad it DELETES. No notice, just missing files. Consequently we have tried to persuade users to have FAT partitions on workstations and HPFS partitions on servers. Even on the server we put swapper.dat in a separate FAT partition, ideally on another physical drive. But when we installed a 20 meg FAT partition yesterday on an OS/2 2.0 database server with two huge drives (PS/2 95) we discovered that setting Swapper.dat at 20 meg or 18 meg would result in 1 meg being allocated. We changed it to 8 meg in config.sys and got an 8 meg alloc. Of 36 users installed so far 3 have demanded HPFS. Of those 2 have had continual problems, crashing the workplace shell, losing folder contents, etc. Leo Tornow ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 17:26:14 on 92/09/15 GMT (by RICHKULP at CARVM3) Subject: Where's code loaded? Ref: Append at 21:10:11 on 92/09/14 GMT (by XXMINC08 at TORVMCOP) Thanks, that's all I wanted to know. One of the Pgm Guides hinted that the code wasn't shared. I thought that was inaccurate, so I wanted to verify. Rich Kulp ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 20:11:14 on 92/09/15 GMT (by RICHIVES at OWGVM3) Subject: Lost Startup DLL Ref: Append at 16:07:15 on 92/09/15 GMT (by IL04688 at OS2CUST) I noticed your comment about "migrate no longer works." I have the same problem, but I did not install the HPFS fixes. It must be one of the others. I have reported it internally. Perhaps you should also report it through your official channels. Rich Ives; IBM Federal Systems Co; Owego NY; 1992/09/15 16:09 EDT ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 21:03:56 on 92/09/15 GMT (by DPBAKER at CHGVMIC1) Subject: Simplied Backups... I really feel we need to do something about simplifying the backup/ restore process for OS/2 2.0. In the past, customers would boot a DOS floppy in their OS/2 1.3 machine and use their favorite backup utility to backup their OS/2 system. It really made restoring the system a snap too. With OS/2 2.0, my customers are really troubled over the fact that this cannot be done. Sure they can backup their OS2 2.0 machine using SYTOS. But in the event of a hard disk failure, they have to re-install OS2 2.0 and Sytos BEFORE they can even start their backup. Most customer really preferred the older method. If anyone has some answers, please pass them on. Dave Baker DPBAKER@CHGVMIC1 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 00:31:43 on 92/09/16 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) Subject: Lost Startup DLL Ref: Append at 16:07:15 on 92/09/15 GMT (by IL04688 at OS2CUST) I believe Migrate no longer works because of a bug in the SOMfix. Migrate actually does work, but 1.3-type groups (which Migrate creates) do not show up properly on the desktop (extended services folders also disappear with this fix installed). Nathan Davis ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 00:36:09 on 92/09/16 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) Subject: Simplied Backups... Ref: Append at 21:03:56 on 92/09/15 GMT (by DPBAKER at CHGVMIC1) IBM's PMTAPE backup program includes a Standalone Restore utility that will restore the contents of a tape to the C drive. (It also gives instructions to build a bootable OS2/SR disk set). Customers should probably let Sytos know this type of utility is a requirement. Nathan Davis ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 11:34:22 on 92/09/16 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Subject: Lost Startup DLL Ref: Append at 16:07:15 on 92/09/15 GMT (by IL04688 at OS2CUST) I also discovered the failure of the migration utility after loading the latest selective fixes. After much searching and hard work I discovered the sorce of the problem. It comes from the fix called SOMFIX.ZIP The problem comes from one of the unzipped files. The file is located in the C:\OS2\DLL directory and is called PMWP.DLL I recommend that you reboot from the installation disk. Change to the directory on the C drive and erase the new PMWP.DLL then rename the old PMWP.BAK back to PMWP.DLL. I will be reporting this problem directly to the OS/2 Dvelopment Team. By the way, all programs that do an automatic install to the desktop will fail when this new PMWP.DLL is loaded. After you make the changes, start up your system and test it by migrating the Windows clock back onto the desktop. PS: First remove the original Windows Program folder first. Also I reccommend that you also call in this problem. Jerry Sitbon (718) 357-4369 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 15:24:27 on 92/09/17 GMT (by IL04688 at OS2CUST) Subject: HPFS FIXES The August release of HPFS.IFS definitely causes problems. I made the mistake of installing it on the PS/2 we use as an LIU/2 image server. After much grief I discovered that my models were hosed. Running chkdsk /F:3 revealed a bunch of corrupted EA's. I switched back to the June release of HPFS.ifs and I am re-creating my models. We now have a policy of not implementing any fixes from IBM if the last paragraph of the readme is a disclaimer that it has not been fully tested or may cause new problems. We are pretty much a true blue shop. Always buying IBM at whatever premium they cared to charge. We have all PS/2 workstations and servers. It surprises me to get burned, but a bit of skepticism is a healthy thing. I hope the things I'm reading about the service pack being delayed a month or two are not true. I've noticed more and more things like the 32-bit graphics engine and the system performance monitor going into beta instead of the expected release. The worst thing for us would be a buggy bug-fix. Our view of IBM support has gone right into the gutter this year. Is there some way to view IBM responses on this BBS that I am not aware of ? Leo Tornow ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 21:00:12 on 92/09/17 GMT (by XXHAYM01 at TORVMCOP) Subject: HPFS FIXES Ref: Append at 15:24:27 on 92/09/17 GMT (by IL04688 at OS2CUST) I sympathize with you on the Aug 28 HPFS fix. I loaded it, and managed to blow away the partition information for my drive. A few days later, I managed to blow away the OS2 directory. I've switched back to the June release, and things are stable once more. Tom Koschate Hay Management Consultants (416) 868-1371 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 13:38:42 on 92/09/18 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Subject: HPFS FIXES Ref: Append at 15:24:27 on 92/09/17 GMT (by IL04688 at OS2CUST) Hello Leo; I think you have just discovered my problem that I am now having with an HPFS system. After I loaded the 7/92 fix for HPFS.IFS, the system no longer reported errors on the SWAPPER.DAT file. Also I had much less problems with lost EA's. Recently I downloaded and installed the new HPFS.IFS driver. Now I am getting the old problem of lost allocation blocks in SWAPPER.DAT and the system will mess up the sys.ini file. I will be replacing this fix with my older copy of HPFS.IFS and see if this corrects my problem. By the way, there is a fix called SOMFIX.ZIP on the BBS. If you load it you will find that the system will not be able to migrate programs to the desktop automaticlly. This includes the migrate utility in OS/2 and programs that try to do it. The file that causes the problem is PMWP.DLL I hope that once the CSD is released it will be far more stable and reliable than all these fixes. PS: I have learned, from the development team that the CSD will fix the original set of disks as well as correct some of the problems on the system. Jerry Sitbon (718) 357-4369 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 18:46:10 on 92/09/18 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) ..... OS2BASE CFORUM modified at 21:04:30 on 92/09/18 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) Subject: Resolution - Success (Stalling, Poor Performance, Fixes) The problem of stalling and various memory and hardware errors has been found and resolved. There is a new IBMSCSI.ADD driver that corrects these and many other system problems. There will be new drivers to correct other systems with these problems also. On my system, a PS/2 80-041 with an IBM SCSI driver (non-cached), a 320 Procom SCSI drive and Xtend memory adapter, it would stall when launching a Program Object, would have a long delay when closing a folder, took an inordinate amount of time installing the desktop (about two hours), lost the printer object after installation, crashed when various applets where executed, problems with the Work Place Shell and many others problems. Thanks to the OS/2 Development Team, in particular I want to thank Mr. Lai Le, these problems have been found analyzed and best of all they have fixes to correct these bugs. As of now there is a fix for the stalling and memory problem. They have also located and corrected the problem with large partitions. There is also a fix to correct the poor performace of the desktop. Bugs in the Work Place shell have also been corrected. The problem of the lost printer object has also been isolated and corrected. These and many other problems have been found and corrected. I've been told that the IBM Development Team will be posting the new set of fixes on the OS2BBS as soon as possible. I have tested the new driver in my system and it has corrected the stalling problem and memory errors. Programs launch without any problems. A new kernel is currently being tested and will soon be released in the Service Pack (CSD). The IBM OS/2 Development Team are making great stides forward in resolving many of the difficulties and bugs in OS/2 2.0 GA. When OS/2 was first released, many of us experienced problems. We had poor performance, stalling when launching an application, memory errors, hardware and software incompatiblities, defective applets, work place shell bugs and many other problems. Just looking at the amount of selective fixes shows that they are trying to correct the problems as fast as possible. The information I have is that the Service Pack (CSD) will correct the original set of diskettes as well as some of the problems on the system. Special Note: The fix titled SOMFIX.ZIP has a problem. If installed you will not be able to migrate programs to the desktop. The OS/2 Development Team knows of the problem and will be correcting the programs shortly. There also may be a problem in the new HPFS.ZIP file. If you have the older fix I reccommend that you stay with that one until this new version is checked out. The OS/2 Team is looking into it now. By the way, the OS/2 development Team members are looking at the OS2BBS. So keep reporting your problems. I, like the rest of you have waited a long time for a product as powerful and flexible as OS/2 2.0. Let's not lose sight of how complex an operating system it is. I can honestly say, from my experinces with the OS/2 Development Team, that they are hard at work trying to resolve as many problems as possible. Some of the troubles lie in the way problem reports (PMRs) get filtered down to the development Team. They don't always know how serious or how many of us are having problems. In some cases, we are made to feel as if the problems with OS/2 are isolated to just our system when in fact the problems have global implications. Keep reporting problems to IBM. If you feel that your not getting any satisfaction try getting others with the same problems to report them as a group. Don't let them say that your problem is not serious enough. If it interferes with the operations of the system then it is a serious problem that should be looked into and corrected. I know how we all can't wait for the fixes for OS/2, what ever IBM calls them. But let's not make a situation where by IBM is placed in a position where it is forced to release a premature fix. A month, more or less, won't change things much but an incomplete or defective fix could doom the product. We need a general fix that resolves problems with hardware, software, I/O devices (CD ROMS, Sound Boards), correctly operating applets, Backup utilities, LAN, Work Place and folder protection, True high resolution support and so on. To be a stable product is not good enough. OS/2 2.0 and all its parts must work and work well together. How can developers, of other OS/2 programs, release their programs when the operating system is still not stable. I know IBM can do it. Just a word of thanks to all the OS2BBS users for all your support. I'd also want to thank all those at IBM who guided and assisted me. The future is OS/2 ...... Your #1 "The IBM OS/2 Development Team" ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 17:36:45 on 92/09/22 GMT (by TCC3961 at OS2CUST) Subject: Using memory greater than 16MB on a Compaq. We are trying to use OS/2 2.0 on a Compaq SystemPro/SLT 486/33. It has 32 meg of memory, however, OS/2 will only use 16 meg. Will the GT16MB.ZIP loader correct this problem? If not, what will? I am sending the person this fix, but since he is on another continent right now, I would like to find out if this will fix the problem while I am waiting for him to try the new loader. Any replies will be appreciated. Craig ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 18:05:39 on 92/09/22 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Using memory greater than 16MB on a Compaq. Ref: Append at 17:36:45 on 92/09/22 GMT (by TCC3961 at OS2CUST) There is no guarnatee that the GT16MB fix will cure the problem, but it may. If there is no DMA access to the memory, we will use it as an extension of the swap file and use that memory first (fast swapper in this case that will probably be as large as needed). Irv Spalten BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 18:43:11 on 92/09/22 GMT (by V$IPAULD at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Using memory greater than 16MB on a Compaq. Ref: Append at 17:36:45 on 92/09/22 GMT (by TCC3961 at OS2CUST) The first question is will OS/2 2.0 use it, the second is what will it be used for. As for the first question, yes, the GT16MEG fix will solve the problem. If it does not, I personally want to know - append here with your phone number, and I will call you. I am the developer who owns that code ... As for the second question, if the disk device driver will support reads to above the 16 meg line (which typically means that there is 32-bit DMA support), then it will be used as regular paged memory. If the disk dd does not support it, it will be used as a swap file extension. Paul Devriendt ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 19:04:07 on 92/09/22 GMT (by HALLERMA at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Using memory greater than 16MB on a Compaq. Ref: Append at 18:05:39 on 92/09/22 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Not quite correct. If we use PIO rather than DMA, then >16MB is supported since Programmed I/O can address > 16MB.IDE drives use PIO. If you have a SCSI 32-bit busmaster that bypasses planar DMA, then you can support > 16MB. ESDI normally uses DMA and, if DMA is 24-bit, then you don't get >16MB. The Paging Manager asks the disk device driver if it can handle addresses >16MB. It doesn't care how the device driver does it : PIO, 32-bit DMA, 32-bit SCSI busmaster, etc. If the disk device driver says: "No, I can't handle addresses >16MB", then the Paging Manager allocates all the memory above 16MB as a fast paging cache. It should be noted that it would be possible to implement double- buffering in a disk device driver where the hardware didn't accomodate >16MB through PIO or 32-bit DMA or .... But, it was felt that using the memory above 16MB as a fast paging cache would provide better performance than double buffering in the device driver. Mel Hallerman ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 16:36:40 on 92/09/23 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Using memory greater than 16MB on a Compaq. Ref: Append at 19:04:07 on 92/09/22 GMT (by HALLERMA at BCRVMPC1) How do I knew that my Compaq 4/33 i with 18M installed is using or not using the >16M mem ? I'll download the GT16M but how I'll see the difference? Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 NHO-32 801-7th Ave Calgary, Alberta, CANADA T2P 2N6 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 17:01:45 on 92/09/23 GMT (by HOCK at GDLVM7) - ..... OS2BASE CFORUM modified at 17:03:28 on 92/09/23 GMT (by HOCK at GDLVM7) . Subject: Adding an 8514/A Ref: Append at 19:04:07 on 92/09/22 GMT (by HALLERMA at BCRVMPC1) After installing an 8514/A card and monitor, what must I do to OS/2 2.0 to get the higher resolution? Right now, I get the same resolution I always had before. | Changed the subject. Rich Hock ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 18:23:36 on 92/09/23 GMT (by LIUKAITI at TOROVM1) Subject: Adding an 8514/A Ref: Append at 17:01:45 on 92/09/23 GMT (by HOCK at GDLVM7) Rich, Open OS/2 System Open System Setup Open Selective Install Click on Primary Display Click on 8514/A Follow the bouncing diskette Do a shutdown and re-ipl. You'll now come up in 8514 mode. Pete Liukaitis ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 19:54:58 on 92/09/23 GMT (by WEEKS at AUSVM2) Subject: Adding an 8514/A Ref: Append at 17:01:45 on 92/09/23 GMT (by HOCK at GDLVM7) 1. Open the OS/2 System folder. 2. Open the System Setup folder. 3. Start Selective Install (be sure you have the installation diskettes available). Craig Weeks LAN Systems Performance (DCE) Austin, Texas ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 00:10:37 on 92/09/24 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) ..... OS2BASE CFORUM modified at 23:33:55 on 92/09/28 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) Subject: Adding an 8514/A Ref: Append at 19:54:58 on 92/09/23 GMT (by WEEKS at AUSVM2) | correct bad information But due to a bug (feature?) in the selective install, the 8514 fonts will not install. They must be manually unpacked from the installation disks from files named COURIER.BMP, HELV.BMP (both on disk 13), and TIMES.BMP (on disk 14). You must boot from the Install disk + Disk 1 to replace the font files. They are (at least on my system) C:\OS2\DLL\COURIER.FON C:\OS2\DLL\HELV.FON C:\OS2\DLL\TIMES.FON If you don't replace the fonts, the last character of Desktop objects gets chopped in half (not major, but an annoyance). Nathan Davis ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 03:30:25 on 92/09/24 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST) Subject: Using memory greater than 16MB on a Compaq. Ref: Append at 16:36:40 on 92/09/23 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Geza, I have done experiments with this and used a utility called MEMSTAT2 that shows swap file size and available ram. I booted up the machine several times with a certain quantity of apps starting and wrote down the memory usage. Then add the memory, and perform the same boo t up tests. You should see a difference in memory that aproximates the amount of memory that you added. Mike Long - CARD Iowa State University - PC/LAN Analyst ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 05:34:50 on 92/09/24 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Using memory greater than 16MB on a Compaq. Ref: Append at 03:30:25 on 92/09/24 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST) Thanks, I'll try this method. Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 NHO-32 801-7th Ave Calgary, Alberta, CANADA T2P 2N6 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 19:23:02 on 92/09/24 GMT (by KHOWEY at WTSCPOK) Subject: Adding an 8514/A Ref: Append at 18:23:36 on 92/09/23 GMT (by LIUKAITI at TOROVM1) Also, do not choose the High Resolution mode if you want Windows programs to run in your Desktop and not in Windows Full Screen Mode. Ken Howey TEAMOS2 member Enterprise Networking Systems Support ITSC Raleigh ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 19:24:27 on 92/09/24 GMT (by HOCK at GDLVM7) - Subject: Adding an 8514/A Ref: Append at 18:23:36 on 92/09/23 GMT (by LIUKAITI at TOROVM1) Thank you very much, it worked! Rich Hock ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 19:34:48 on 92/09/24 GMT (by HOCK at GDLVM7) - Subject: Adding an 8514/A Ref: Append at 00:10:37 on 92/09/24 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) I see what you mean. When I tried the unpack command on file a:8514. (install diskette 7), the only files it unpacked were three DLLs, no .FON files. Any other tricks to get those new fonts? Rich Hock ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 17:42:28 on 92/09/25 GMT (by XXBCTE25 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Resolution - Success (Stalling, Poor Performance, Fixes) Ref: Append at 18:46:10 on 92/09/18 GMT (by IL42384 at OS2CUST) You mentioned WPS performance improvements in the upcoming service pak. Can you say if there's been improvements in the time it takes to open folders and display icons? How about dragging objects/icons with the RMB? Right now the mouse doesn't always grab the icon first time. It's real annoying. I'm sure you know what I mean. Thanks for the feedback. All in all, it sounds incouraging. Claude Biron ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 19:45:46 on 92/09/25 GMT (by GRAFF2 at STLVM14) Subject: Adding an 8514/A Ref: Append at 19:23:02 on 92/09/24 GMT (by KHOWEY at WTSCPOK) If you don't choose High Resolution, you'll only be running VGA mode, and you might as well not have installed the 8514/A in the first place. Michael GRAFF at STLVM14 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 21:04:12 on 92/09/25 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) ..... OS2BASE CFORUM modified at 23:39:02 on 92/09/28 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) Subject: Adding an 8514/A Ref: Append at 19:34:48 on 92/09/24 GMT (by HOCK at GDLVM7) Ref: Append at 21:11:09 on 92/09/28 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) |Wrong! See second reference for better information. | (This is what I get for using DOS). | | Actual file names are COURIER.BMP, HELV.BMP, and COURIER.BMP. After | unpacking the files, *.BGA must be renamed =.FON. Look on some of the other disks. There is more than one file named "8514." (on more than one disk of course). Use "UNPACK A:¢8514 /SHOW" to see what files are packed in A:¢8514 (check the syntax on this - I am not on an OS/2 system at the moment). Again, you must be booted from diskette before the actual unpack will work. Nathan Davis ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 16:17:44 on 92/09/28 GMT (by HOCK at GDLVM7) - Subject: Adding an 8514/A Ref: Append at 21:04:12 on 92/09/25 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) I only found two *8514*.* files on any of the installation diskettes. Both are on diskette 7: 8514. and WIN8514. Neither had the fonts you mentioned in them. Rich Hock ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 21:11:09 on 92/09/28 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) ..... OS2BASE CFORUM modified at 23:31:00 on 92/09/28 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) Subject: Adding an 8514/A Ref: Append at 16:17:44 on 92/09/28 GMT (by HOCK at GDLVM7) |Sent too soon! My most humble apologies. I dug out my install disks and checked and found the following: font file name disk pack file name packed font name C:\OS2\DLL\COURIER.FON 13 COURIER.BMP => COURIER.BGA C:\OS2\DLL\HELV.FON 13 HELV.BMP => HELV.BMP C:\OS2\DLL\TIMES.FON 14 TIMES.BMP => TIMES.BGA C:\OS2\DLL\MISC.FON (not needed) C:\OS2\DLL\SYSMONO.FON (not needed) The following .CMD should unpack the files needed: -------------cut here---------------- REM BGAFONT.CMD PAUSE INSERT DISK 13 UNPACK A:\courier.bmp /N:courier.bga REN \os2\dll\courier.fon courier.vga REN \os2\dll\courier.bga courier.fon UNPACK A:\helv.bmp /N:helv.bga REN \os2\dll\helv.fon helv.vga REN \os2\dll\helv.bga helv.fon PAUSE INSERT DISK 14 UNPACK A:\times.bmp /N:times.bga REN \os2\dll\times.fon times.vga REN \os2\dll\times.bga times.fon -------------cut here---------------- I hope this is more useful than my previous attempts. Nathan Davis ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 14:28:23 on 92/09/29 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) Subject: Lockup 'failure' This morning when I came into the office my screen was white with a little lock on it. My normal picture displayed by the system lockup was not displayed. I could not enter my password AND I was able to enter the 3 finger salute (Ctrl-Alt-Del) and reboot. This is the first time this has happened to me. Has anyone else experienced this problem? Lionel Dyck - Rockwell International, Information Systems Center ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 17:18:07 on 92/09/29 GMT (by SHAFFERD at WMAVM7) Subject: Lockup 'failure' Ref: Not sure how I broke Lockup but I did. Haven't been able to pin- point what might have caused the problem either. I have a P70 which locks up fine using scaled bitmaps. On a mod80 however, the register on page 2 of the Desktop - Settings Lockup tab resets back to 1x1. I have noticed this problem on multiple mod80's. Lockup no longer scales the bitmap. -Shaffer ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 22:02:58 on 92/09/29 GMT (by IL41468 at HONE83) Subject: OS/2 and math co-processor Anyone: Using the old theory of ask first, do research on if necessary, I must ask: Does the use of a math co-processor (80387) make in difference in the performance of OS/2. I know it would help in programs that are math inclined. But what about just the base OS/2 and say a database? J.M.Schaeffer ('John' AIMS Sandy, Utah) ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 23:14:27 on 92/09/29 GMT (by THRUMD at SYDVM1) Subject: OS/2 and math co-processor Ref: Append at 22:02:58 on 92/09/29 GMT (by IL41468 at HONE83) OS/2 itself makes no use of floating point - only benefit is for apps that use floating point instructions. Dave ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 14:33:21 on 92/09/30 GMT (by WZ00533 at OS2CUST) Subject: SYSnnnnn.DMP Files We are running OS/2 2.0 and OS/2 LAN Server 2.0. We are getting bunches of files named SYSnnnnn.DMP, they show up in the OS2/INSTALL directory. Can anyone shed any light on these files. Thanks, Dave Ferrey - Bethlehem Steel Corp. - Bethlehem PA. ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 23:14:15 on 92/09/30 GMT (by JAWLIK at RHQVM06) Subject: WordPerfect Reaffirms Support for OS/2 In response to users who expressed concern about a press release announcing support for Microsoft's Windows NT, WordPerfect Corporation issued the following statement last week reaffirming their commitment to develop WordPerfect for OS/2: "Microsoft's Windows NT is getting a significant amount of attention from the press, and Microsoft is currently briefing their customers on the product as well as the way their other applications will support it. As a follow-up to the Microsoft Developer's Conference this summer -- and to their announcement that they have shipped nearly 10,000 software developer kits -- WordPerfect Corporation issued a statement of support for Windows NT. WordPerfect Corporation is a strong supporter of OS/2 and has issued three separate press releases in the past year reaffirming our commitment to develop WordPerfect for OS/2. Alan Ashton, president of WordPerfect Corporation, regularly reaffirms this support in his speeches throughout the country and will give it major focus at an international large account conference next week in Europe. A fully staffed development group has been working hard on WordPerfect 6.0 for OS/2 and is currently involved in joint interface testing with IBM The Windows NT announcement corresponds with WordPerfect Corporation's strategy to develop products for a variety of platforms and in no way affects our strong support and development for OS/2." Andy Jawlik ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 07:59:00 on 92/10/01 GMT (by 86432830 at EHONE) Subject: SYSnnnnn.DMP Files Ref: Append at 14:33:21 on 92/09/30 GMT (by WZ00533 at OS2CUST) The SYSnnnnn.DMP file are created by FFT/2 that is installed when installing Extended Services(FFT = First Failure Trapping). It will create 32 .DMP files as that is the default. It can be customised by typing EPWINST on the command line. You will need to experiment to fined how it works. Good Luck Gavin Grieve ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 11:16:32 on 92/10/01 GMT (by WZ00533 at OS2CUST) Subject: SYSnnnnn.DMP Files Ref: Append at 07:59:00 on 92/10/01 GMT (by 86432830 at EHONE) Gavin Thanks for the help. I ran epwinst and am discovering more uncharted territory. Thanks again Dave Dave Ferrey - Bethlehem Steel Corp. - Bethlehem PA. ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 18:49:11 on 92/10/01 GMT (by DABY13S at HONE81) Subject: Debugging IPL Hangs at WPS Startup We seem to be having more and more problems with failed IPLs. The system will begin to initialize, and then appear to hang. The hang occurs after the text mode display for the CONFIG.SYS stuff, but prior to any objects being displayed on the desktop. In most cases, the desktop itself is displayed with a normal mouse pointer. I am aware of the CTL-left SHIFT-F1 circumvention. WHat I would like to be able to do is determine what exactly is going on when the system is hung. I believe that one or more processes that were running at shutdown are not initializing properly. Since I would like to have processes restarted, the STARTUP= parameter in CONFIG.SYS is not a viable option at this time. Any ideas on this subject would be appreciated. Eugene Dale Tyler, Ultimate Corp. ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 12:12:44 on 92/10/02 GMT (by HOCK at GDLVM7) - Subject: Adding an 8514/A Ref: Append at 21:11:09 on 92/09/28 GMT (by DAVISN at HOUVMSCC) Oh, I forgot to say that that worked just fine! Thanks. Rich Hock ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 15:21:10 on 92/10/02 GMT (by BDORGE at OS2CUST) Subject: Pop Up Menus I have loaded OS/2 2.0 on a Model 80-111 with 8MB of ram. I am having some problems with when I want to use the right mouse button to activate the pop up menus, it doesn't seem to work at all. I have gone into the the mouse setup screens and the defaults are set up for everything. I have even hooked up seve ral different mice with all of them having the same results. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Bill Dorge MO Division of Employment Security ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 21:10:23 on 92/10/02 GMT (by AMOON at WASVMIC1) Subject: Running GEOS in MVDM Session I ran into a customer who is used to running GEOS instead of WINDOWS. GEOS apparently can launch other programs, like Windows. However, when he starts GEOS, he gets a SYS3176 message. Does anyone have any idea what the problem is. I am not familiar with GEOS, although apparently it is pretty popular, so I am not sure where to go for an answer. Thanks, Ann Moon ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 22:46:52 on 92/10/03 GMT (by TCSC086 at HONE82) Subject: Running GEOS in MVDM Session Ref: Append at 21:10:23 on 92/10/02 GMT (by AMOON at WASVMIC1) Geoworks has a few incompatibility problems with OS/2 2.0. As an America Online user (whose interface runs as a Geoworks application), running OS/2 2.0 put me offline with that net for a while. Recently, patches for AOL under OS/2 have circulated. Most of them give credit to an individual by the name of "Groeber in Germany". The patch that I dled from CI$ (aolfix.zip in the "old" OS/2 forum) did the trick. Several "readme" files claim that Geoworks if officially aware (not sure if they acknowledge a problem). I am not aware of a straight Geoworks patch. I work with someone who is extremely active and involved AOL and have passed on the problem. AOL is QUITE aware of it. I'll check this Monday for an update. Dan Lundy Time Customer Service Tampa Fl ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 22:52:10 on 92/10/03 GMT (by TCSC086 at HONE82) Subject: Running GEOS in MVDM Session Ref: Append at 21:10:23 on 92/10/02 GMT (by AMOON at WASVMIC1) Geoworks has a few incompatibility problems with OS/2 2.0. As an America Online user (whose interface runs as a Geoworks application), running OS/2 2.0 put me offline with that net for a while. Recently, patches for AOL under OS/2 have circulated. Most of them give credit to an individual by the name of "Groeber in Germany". The patch that I dled from CI$ (aolfix.zip in the "old" OS/2 forum) did the trick. Several "readme" files claim that Geoworks if officially aware (not sure if they acknowledge a problem). I am not aware of a straight Geoworks patch. I work with someone who is extremely active and involved AOL and have passed on the problem. AOL is QUITE aware of it. I'll check this Monday for an update. Dan Lundy Time Customer Service Tampa Fl ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 00:04:36 on 92/10/04 GMT (by RAYMONCR at FSHVMX) Subject: Running GEOS in MVDM Session Ref: Append at 21:10:23 on 92/10/02 GMT (by AMOON at WASVMIC1) There is a fix on AOL (Americal OnLine) called GEOSOS2.ZIP (there is another fix which mentions AOL, but GEOSOS2.ZIP covers one more version of the GEOS kernel). Instructions are included, and it used the OS/2 PATCH utility. What it does is fool GEOS (or AOL) into thinking it is being run on a network (i.e. the A and B drives will NOT be accessible). It's not fool proof, but it may help. Good luck. Craig A. Raymond (914-894-8007) IBM East Fishkill - Test Sys Eng ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 19:17:20 on 92/10/05 GMT (by SQUIRES at DALVM41B) ..... OS2BASE CFORUM modified at 03:21:02 on 92/10/06 GMT (by HOPKINS at AUSVM8) Subject: Using memory greater than 16MB on PS/2 8590 I understand I may need the the fix "GT16MB" but I can't find it any place. Could someone please tell me how to get it? >>>IBM Internal users can find it on OS2TOOLS/OS2CSD/OS2BETA disks >>>Customers can locate the fix in the software download library. Ken Hopkins, OS/2 Software Service and Support ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 20:21:56 on 92/10/06 GMT (by NAAO3IY at HONE86) Subject: Using memory greater than 16MB on PS/2 8590 Ref: Append at 19:17:20 on 92/10/05 GMT (by SQUIRES at DALVM41B) The fix is here, but unless I am much mistaken, it applies to non-IBM systems only. The 8590 can, however, require some Engineering Changes; they are documented in README. John Kennedy, Hoechst Celanese (The OS/2 Hobbit) ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 21:06:14 on 92/10/06 GMT (by V$IPAULD at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Using memory greater than 16MB on PS/2 8590 Ref: Append at 20:21:56 on 92/10/06 GMT (by NAAO3IY at HONE86) The GT16MB fix applies to IBM and non-IBM machines. It is not needed on some machines, but SHOULD cause no harm on those that do not need it. There are various levels of the fix around - there is a new level coming out in the Service Pack. There will be additional levels as different BIOSes are found that cuase problems ... Paul Devriendt ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 10:04:54 on 92/10/08 GMT (by WALZT at BOEVM3) Subject: Bring it to the FOREGROUND I am running OS/2 2.0 16 bit applications, and trying to get control to specific programs. At IPL time STARTUP.CMD kicks things off it has the foreground. STARTUP.CMD kicks off MYSTART.CMD. MYSTART.CMD Kicks off two programs A.exe and B.exe with the command start /F /FS /C A.exe start B.exe some time later program A.EXE tells program B.exe that it will Kill it's self. Program A.EXE is in the FOREGROUND when it DosExit's. B.EXE acknowledges this by restarting MYSTART.CMD. A.EXE can not restart MYSTART.CMD. Not my program to modify. B.EXE is in the BACKGROUND when it attempts to system("START /F /FS /C MYSTART.CMD") this command fails. Cannot start in foreground error. This effectively kills A.EXE the program that should be in the foreground is now in a ICON. Question. Is ther any way for a program to bring it's self to the foreground when it has been started in the background. That way I can bring my self (B.EXE) to the foreground after I know A.EXE will DosExit and I will live happily ever after. Any suggestions would be appricated. Danke, T Walz ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 22:37:47 on 92/10/08 GMT (by KDROMREL at SFOVMIC1) Subject: Bring it to the FOREGROUND Ref: Append at 10:04:54 on 92/10/08 GMT (by WALZT at BOEVM3) If B.EXE is a PM program, then there are 2 calls that do this. First do a WinQuerySwitchHandle to get the Switch Handle for the window. Then do a WinSwitchToProgram(SwitchHandle) to make that program the foreground process. Both of these calls are documented in the PM Reference manual that comes with WorkSet/2, if you have that. Kelvin D. Romrell ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 14:32:58 on 92/10/09 GMT (by SBCY006 at OS2CUST) Subject: Rexx Procedure from the Config.SYS called We a have a LOGIN.EXE program we have been calling frmo the CONFIG.SYS for people to use when they login to our Netware server. We put it in the CONFIG.SY S so that they would be logged in before the startup folder runs. The problem was if they made a mistake on Login then the process ended and startup continued. I wrote a small Rexx that gave them three tries and some information on what they did wrong. My problem now is that I am having a problem running a Rexx procedure from the CONFIG.SYS. I did try a CALL=D:\OS2\CMD.EXE /K "LOGME.CMD" but the /K parm did not work and the Rexx procedure was not called. I did get a CMD session but I could not even run the rexx manually for some reason. Two Questions 1) Can I get a Rexx Procedure to run from the CONFIG.SYS 2) How ? Matthew Moran- County of Santa Barbara - SBCY006/HONE83 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 16:46:54 on 92/10/09 GMT (by MAAV7IB at HONE83) Subject: MODE CO132 not working I am trying to use the MODE command to change my OS/2 Window to CO132 mode. When I issue 'MODE CO132,24', the screen clears and I receive the following message: SYS1633: The MODE parameter co132 is not correct. I am using an 8514 display, attached to an XGA adapter, on a PS/2 model 80. OS/2 V2.0 has been installed with the XGA driver in high resolution mode. From what I can read, it should work. Kevin Miller, The Capital Group, Inc. ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 17:09:41 on 92/10/09 GMT (by CNADLER at WMAVM1) Subject: MODE CO132 not working Ref: Append at 16:46:54 on 92/10/09 GMT (by MAAV7IB at HONE83) It seems you can only do a MODE 132,xx in a full-screen session. Cliff Nadler GO TEAM OS/2! Systems Integration and Services Rockville, MD IBM Federal Systems Company PROFS: NADLER at WMAVM7 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 21:45:22 on 92/10/09 GMT (by MAAV7IB at HONE83) Subject: MODE CO132 not working Ref: Append at 17:09:41 on 92/10/09 GMT (by CNADLER at WMAVM1) Any chance that they would get this to work in an OS/2 Window. That would be much more usefull! Appropriate fonts could be selected, etc. Kevin Miiler, The Capital Group, Inc. ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 21:45:43 on 92/10/09 GMT (by MAAV7IB at HONE83) Subject: OS/2 Window: How to change the default font, size, and position How do I change the default font, size, and position for the OS/2 Window? Every time I open it, it comes up maximized, uses a large font (22x12), and it's right edge is past the edge of my screen. I've tried shutting down my system with an active OS/2 Window the way I'd like it, but that doesn't seem to affect it. Any suggestions? Kevin Miller, The Capital Group, Inc. ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 21:58:45 on 92/10/09 GMT (by V$IGBERT at AUSVM1) ..... OS2BASE CFORUM modified at 16:48:08 on 92/10/12 GMT (by V$IGBERT at AUSVM1) Subject: OS/2 Window: How to change the default font, size, and position Ref: Append at 21:45:43 on 92/10/09 GMT (by MAAV7IB at HONE83) | see the next append for a better answer... ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 22:14:48 on 92/10/09 GMT (by RICHKULP at CARVM3) Subject: OS/2 Window: How to change the default font, size, and position Ref: Append at 21:45:43 on 92/10/09 GMT (by MAAV7IB at HONE83) I assume you are talking about the OS/2 Command Prompt Window. To make the size change permanent, when resizing with mouse, hold down the Shift and Alt key at the same time. Make sure you release the mouse button before releasing the keys. To make the font change permanent, when you change the font use the "Save" button instead of the "Change" button. Position is a different story, it puts it somewhere on the screen, each new opened window is slightly shifted. NOTE********* This affects all newly opened OS/2 Prompts. You can't have one saved one size and another saved a different size. Rich Kulp ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 03:44:18 on 92/10/11 GMT (by RRKURTZ at PKEDVM9) Subject: OS/2 Window: How to change the default font, size, and position Ref: Append at 22:14:48 on 92/10/09 GMT (by RICHKULP at CARVM3) Thank you thank you thank you! I've been trying to get my OS/2 window to stay where I put it across shutdowns with 0 success. I was using Shift with the mouse but no-go. Shift-Alt+mouse seems to have done the trick. Dick Kurtz ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 11:02:25 on 92/10/12 GMT (by SBSTBEG at OS2CUST) Subject: MODE CO132 not working Ref: Append at 17:09:41 on 92/10/09 GMT (by CNADLER at WMAVM1) Will this bug be fixed in the long awaited, much heralded, service pack? If not, when is it expected to be fixed? Bill Stephens ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 16:37:32 on 92/10/12 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) Subject: MODE CO132 not working Ref: Append at 11:02:25 on 92/10/12 GMT (by SBSTBEG at OS2CUST) I believe Boca would say "Working-As-Designed". The help for MODE states that VIO Window sessions only support 80 columns. The GRE Beta code has this limitation as well so I wouldn't expect to see any change in the Service Pak. Brent Allen - IBM LAN Systems Integration Services Southlake, TX ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 15:36:53 on 92/10/13 GMT (by USCC006 at OS2CUST) Subject: PATH/LIBPATH length What is the maximum length of such statements as PATH and LIBPATH in CONFIG.SYS? Where is that information documented? Thanks. Jerry Allen - University of South Carolina ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 16:37:11 on 92/10/13 GMT (by IL11901 at OS2CUST) Subject: How to change the default font, size, and position Ref: Append at 03:44:18 on 92/10/11 GMT (by RRKURTZ at PKEDVM9) (no text entered) Steve Dacek - Soft & GUI Inc ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 18:47:12 on 92/10/13 GMT (by WZ00533 at LINK21) Subject: VDISK Ref: Append at 16:37:11 on 92/10/13 GMT (by IL11901 at OS2CUST) As I understand it, The largest VDISK is 4 megabytes. I have users who would like to create a 10 megabyte ram disk. 1) Is it true VDISK is limited to 4 MB? 2) If so, are there any plans to increase it? Thanks, Dave Ferrey - Bethlehem Steel Corp. Bethlehem PA. ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 23:18:22 on 92/10/13 GMT (by PMS7508 at MARTLINK) Subject: not working Ref: Append at 16:37:32 on 92/10/12 GMT (by BRENT at DALVM41B) I believe the correct term is "Broken As Coded". John Baker, Policy Management Systems Corporation ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 12:41:01 on 92/10/14 GMT (by IRV at BCRVMPC1) Subject: VDISK Ref: Append at 18:47:12 on 92/10/13 GMT (by WZ00533 at LINK21) I know there is work going on for this, and it may be on the SP. Irv Spalten BPC Technical Interface Group, Boca Raton FL ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 13:08:00 on 92/10/14 GMT (by PERSHNG at YKTVMH) Subject: PATH/LIBPATH length Ref: Append at 15:36:53 on 92/10/13 GMT (by USCC006 at OS2CUST) I don't know what the exact limit is, but it is quite large... ...HOWEVER, not all programs (or editors) are capable of dealing with very long paths, so it is not uncommon for these to get truncated at 256 (or is it 512?) characters by editors or by well-intentioned but uninformed automagic-installation procedures, and/or for programs to only search the first 256 (512?) bytes of the path. John A. Pershing Jr. ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 14:54:24 on 92/10/14 GMT (by USBC238 at OS2CUST) Subject: Ref: Append at 15:36:53 on 92/10/13 GMT (by USCC006 at OS2CUST) The online documentation says "The length of the path can be up to 5 characters less than thenumber of characters allowed on the command line." I am able to get 256 characters on the command line. The same goes for the libpath, except it is 8 characters less. (LIBPATH= - 8, PATH= -5) Charles Boyce - US Bank, Portland OR ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 15:47:15 on 92/10/14 GMT (by HARGRAVE at BCRVMPC1) Subject: PATH/LIBPATH length Ref: Append at 13:08:00 on 92/10/14 GMT (by PERSHNG at YKTVMH) Its 1024 bytes. BJ Hargrave ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 15:59:47 on 92/10/14 GMT (by ABLI001 at OS2CUST) Subject: Ref: Append at 18:47:12 on 92/10/13 GMT (by WZ00533 at LINK21) Be sure that you really want a large VDISK. I have experimented, and found that VDISK takes "real" memory, that is, it reduces the size of the page pool. So your VDISK cannot be larger than your real memory minus about 3 Meg (and your system will page to death before that number.) Too bad there isn't a switch that says to take it's storage from virtual memory. It would also be nice to have a switch which, for DOS boxes, would start a seperate VDISK in virtual memory to isolate them from each other. (If anyone knows of DOS VDISK driver which installs as an EXE rather than a SYS, then let me know. I have already tried XDISK though, and it says that "DOS version must be later than 2.0"!) ->Rich Corbett; ABC Liquors, Inc., Orlando, FL (NASPA: CORBRIC7) ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 16:08:59 on 92/10/14 GMT (by CNADLER at WMAVM1) Subject: VDISKS Ref: Append at 15:59:47 on 92/10/14 GMT (by ABLI001 at OS2CUST) But what's the point of putting VDISKS in DASD? The whole reason to have a VDISK is to improve access time to commonly used files. If you put it back on your slow hard disk, you gain nothing. Cliff Nadler GO TEAM OS/2! Systems Integration and Services Rockville, MD IBM Federal Systems Company PROFS: NADLER at WMAVM7 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 19:13:07 on 92/10/14 GMT (by IL48672 at HONE86) Subject: Not that I really care that much, but... ...it does seem to be a bug. Bring up an OS/2 Window. Notice the icon for the system menu. It is the small version of the OS/2 Window icon itself, right? Now, give the OS/2 window the focus, and press Ctrl-C. Presto, chango, your icon is now the default system menu icon. As I said, this is a really tiny thing, but I did find it amusing. I have reproduced this with the 32 bit GRE. Chris Breisch NT means Not Technology Pritsker Corporation ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 01:10:55 on 92/10/15 GMT (by ITC1008 at HONE85) Subject: HPFS Fixes Ref: Append at 20:19:06 on 92/09/14 GMT (by IL41468 at OS2CUST) We had found that the HPFS.ifs should be replaced on your installation disks (i think its disk 1) with the latest version. (their is enough room on the 3.5" disk to rename the old one). After all it is this version you will be using if you use chkdsk against your os/2 partition. We have rarely found it necessary to do a reformat since adopting this procedure (i think the ones who did reformat simply panic). Put whatever HPFS.IFS you are comfortable with there. Must our machines are up with the June version. I am up with the August version and don't see to significant problems other then the CHKDSK SWAPPER errors on my partition with the swappper file. ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 14:53:04 on 92/10/15 GMT (by XXNOVA24 at TORVMCOP) Subject: Verify ON/OFF I'd like to turn on the verify flag permanently on my system. (Not because it's too fast do) the 'verify on' works for the session what I open, but how can I do it for my whole system ? Geza Szivos NOVACOR Chemicals (403)-290-6583 Fax (403)-290-5900 NHO-32 801-7th Ave Calgary, Alberta, CANADA T2P 2N6 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 15:13:58 on 92/10/15 GMT (by SAMEH at YKTVMH) Subject: General OS/2 semaphore question. When using an Event semaphore, the system keeps track of the number of times that the semaphore gets posted since the last Reset. The documentation is clear on this. However, the documentation says nothing about what happens to this post count as a result of DosWaitEventSem() or DosWaitMuxWaitSem() system calls. Does the post count get automatically decremented every time I DosWaitEventSem() on the semaphore and find it already posted? Does the post count get automatically decremented when I DosWaitMuxWaitSem() and the Event semaphore is already posted? (This is after adding the event semaphore to the MuxWait semaphore). Will the semaphore eventually get automatically 'Reset' when the post count reaches zero? Also, is there a good OS/2 2.0 reference book like the "The Waite Group's OS/2 Programmer's Reference by Asael Dror" was for OS/2 1.3? Thanks in advance for any help..... Sameh A. Fakhouri ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 03:39:32 on 92/10/16 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) Subject: PATH/LIBPATH length Ref: Append at 15:47:15 on 92/10/14 GMT (by HARGRAVE at BCRVMPC1) Unlike DOS, in working in OS2, it is not always necessary to have something in the PATH statement. By creating a program icon on the desktop, you put the path information in the icon notebook, and from then on the program path is identified. I suppose if you continue to work from the command line (as one would in DOS) then specifying an elaborate PATH is necessary. On the otherhand, the LIBPATH, has to point to all shared DLL files. Elliott M. Avedon University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1 (519) 885-1211 x2204 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 04:21:27 on 92/10/16 GMT (by THRUMD at SYDVM1) Subject: PATH/LIBPATH length Ref: Append at 03:39:32 on 92/10/16 GMT (by XXUWAT06 at TORVMCOP) If your working directory is the directory where the EXE is, then including ".;.\DLL;" in your LIBPATH should find DLLs in the same directory or \DLL subdirectory of the directory where the EXE is. This can help trim the LIBPATH a little bit at least. Dave ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 23:49:10 on 92/10/16 GMT (by ABLI001 at OS2CUST) Subject: VDISKS Ref: Append at 16:08:59 on 92/10/14 GMT (by CNADLER at WMAVM1) Hi Cliff, I'm glad you asked {step into my parlour said the spider, drum roll}. First, you are implying that letting the VDISK use virtual memory (a VVDISK?) is the same as using disk. I will assume that you assumed that everybody is using lazywrite, otherwise the difference is obvious when one looks at write activity. But even then, let us look at what happens when a change is made to a disk block. On the cached real disk we make the change and the lazywrite option defers the write, although it flags the block and starts a timer. If no further change is made, then a few seconds later the disk block is actually written at low priority. If the block is changed multiple times then only one real write is done, which is good, but there will still be at least one real write for every changed disk block. For a VVDISK, when a write is done to the virtual block, then the page of virtual memory is flagged as changed, but no timer is started to write it out. Furthermore, even if enough activity is going on to force the page out, there will be one write per PAGE, which may contain several blocks. If the VVDISK file is deleted, then presumably such a driver could be smart enough to invalidate the page and there might be 0 writes per logical disk write. Second, let's look at total memory usage comparing a VDISK and a VVDISK. Both will probably be overallocated since it will have to be set up for the worst case (or at least what the user thinks he can live with.) Suppose that it just happens to be a third the available memory to make things easy, e.g. a 6 meg machine with 3 meg of fixed nucleus, 1 meg real of cache, 1 meg real of VDISK and the remainder (1 meg) becomes the page pool. Compared with 1 meg real of cache, 0 meg real of VVDISK and the remainder (2 meg) becomes the page pool. The page life seems to be twice as long with the VVDISK since the page pool is twice as big. Except that we are putting some demand on the page pool with our VVDISK. While the maximum demand will be 1 meg, in reality it will rarely approach this size, so that the page pool will still have the extra for it's use, thus reducing the number of page in/outs of the VVDISK data at the same time. Admittedly, a VVDISK may be a poor performer compared to a cached real disk when a VVDISK file is larger than the page pool, since the cache logic may detect sequential accesses better for real disks and bring in entire tracks. But this is not even an option at the moment with the current VDISK driver. And I have not even brought up my other requirement for installing a new VDISK for each VDM to hold work files and dynamically built/executed batch files. At the moment I am having to fall back on the real disk and am trying to find a better way of building a seperate work directory for each execution of autoexec.bat when a virtual machine is started. At the moment in startup.cmd I loop thru detecting a dummy numbered file and delete them and then in autoexec.bat I loop thru possible numbers and create the next higher numbered directory that doesn't exist. ->Rich Corbett; ABC Liquors, Inc., Orlando, FL (NASPA: CORBRIC7) ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 01:22:23 on 92/10/19 GMT (by CNADLER at WMAVM1) Subject: VDISKS Ref: Append at 23:49:10 on 92/10/16 GMT (by ABLI001 at OS2CUST) 1) Your point on a separate VDISK for a DOS session is reasonable, however, on a system with limited resources, it will cause more thrashing while running through program code and data. 2) I believe your point about a VVDISK having multiple writes to a single page is somewhat flawed (I don't know the internal cache design, so this is guesswork). If I remember how things worked on a FAT system correctly, you will be working in page-sized increments (or larger) for hard-disk accesses (HPFS is 512 bytes if I remember correctly) anyway, and I beleive the cache will read in the sector and make all the changes to the sector at once when using lazywrite. 3) As a person who tends to run many things at once, I find that the amount of swapping (paging) that goes on all the time is my limiting factor on performance. To reserve an area of memory for temporary data when it could be used to make my cache bigger does not sit well (for me anyway). 4) Given the scheme you describe for eliminating writes (the file or VVDISK disappears), I wonder how the cache handles it? Would the cache actually write data to the disk and then erase the file, or would it just skip that operation? Suffice it to say that I see your requirements, however, I think that other methods can be used to help your performance. Cliff Nadler GO TEAM OS/2! Systems Integration and Services Rockville, MD IBM Federal Systems Company PROFS: NADLER at WMAVM7 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 18:13:21 on 92/10/20 GMT (by ROK2027 at HONE81) Subject: Converting from FAT to HPFS Looking for suggestions on how to convert a FAT 'C' drive to HPFS. My 'C' drive, from which I boot from and on which OS/2 2.0, ES 1.0, etc. is installed is currently a FAT drive. I would like to convert it to HPFS after the Service Pack as I am assuming that all the HPFS problems will be resolved. I don't really want to have to reinstall everything to get from here to there. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to go about this task of converting from FAT to HPFS without loosing the environment, etc.... Thanks. ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 21:13:48 on 92/10/20 GMT (by X99028 at OS2CUST) Subject: picview error# c2053; print failure I pull my .met picture into picview. When I try to print I recieve a message indicating that the application can not talk to the printer and to contact my service coordinator. the error code number is C2053? help. Gene Wicker/Burlington Industries ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 22:19:09 on 92/10/20 GMT (by SBCY006 at OS2CUST) Subject: Cache used for Network drives I am using a Netware 3.11 server and I have been reading the new PS/2 Systems Journal on OS/2 2.0. There aws alot of detailed information on CACHE and what it can do for you and how it works. My question is does that CACHE for FAT or HPFS apply to my Network drive ? Matthew Moran- County of Santa Barbara - SBCY006/HONE83 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 23:30:33 on 92/10/20 GMT (by NANR6GN at HONE82) Subject: Converting from FAT to HPFS Ref: Append at 18:13:21 on 92/10/20 GMT (by ROK2027 at HONE81) Hello, I'm no expert, with OS/2. But I have been trying to figure out the same thing myself for a friend of mine and here's what I have come up with. 1. Remove the attributes H,S,R from the following files. \OS2BOOT \OS2KRNL \OS2LDR \OS2\BITMAP\AAAAA.EXE \OS2\BITMAP\AAAAA.MET eg. ¢C:\|attrib -h -s -r OS2BOOT 2. Make an OS/2 Boot disk there is a great program on this BBS for doing this. Get a second disk and put the following files on it. Volume in drive A has no label. The Volume Serial Number is 24C3:1414 Directory of A:\ FORMAT COM 63744 3-30-92 12:00p FDISK COM 104759 3-30-92 12:00p CHKDSK COM 68656 3-30-92 12:00p UHPFS DLL 178896 3-30-92 12:00p OSO001 MSG 171340 3-30-92 12:00p BACKUP EXE 83433 3-30-92 12:00p RESTORE EXE 30491 3-30-92 12:00p 7 file(s) 701319 bytes used 751104 bytes free 3. Now boot from the floppy and use the OS/2 Backup program. Technically this should work, because the program is aware of the Extended attributes. Make sure you read the online info on Backup and restore before you do this so that you enter the command with the needed switches. 4. After the backup you should be able to do a format to HPFS, and then start your restore. As I have said I am no expert. I have created a boot disk before all the fancy programs came out, by just formating, and copying the OS2BOOT, OS2Krnl, OS2LDR. Then just attempting to boot up and copying the files to the boot disk that I needed every time I crashed. My friend will be trying this one of these days, If you want to wait I'll post his results when he tries it. Cesar Ventura, Telesector Resources Group ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 23:34:44 on 92/10/20 GMT (by NANR6GN at HONE82) Subject: Converting from FAT to HPFS Ref: Append at 18:13:21 on 92/10/20 GMT (by ROK2027 at HONE81) Hello, I'm no expert, with OS/2. But I have been trying to figure out the same thing myself for a friend of mine and here's what I have come up with. 1. Remove the attributes H,S,R from the following files. \OS2BOOT \OS2KRNL \OS2LDR \OS2\BITMAP\AAAAA.EXE \OS2\BITMAP\AAAAA.MET eg. ¢C:\|attrib -h -s -r OS2BOOT 2. Make an OS/2 Boot disk there is a great program on this BBS for doing this. Get a second disk and put the following files on it. Volume in drive A has no label. The Volume Serial Number is 24C3:1414 Directory of A:\ FORMAT COM 63744 3-30-92 12:00p FDISK COM 104759 3-30-92 12:00p CHKDSK COM 68656 3-30-92 12:00p UHPFS DLL 178896 3-30-92 12:00p OSO001 MSG 171340 3-30-92 12:00p BACKUP EXE 83433 3-30-92 12:00p RESTORE EXE 30491 3-30-92 12:00p 7 file(s) 701319 bytes used 751104 bytes free 3. Now boot from the floppy and use the OS/2 Backup program. Technically this should work, because the program is aware of the Extended attributes. Make sure you read the online info on Backup and restore before you do this so that you enter the command with the needed switches. 4. After the backup you should be able to do a format to HPFS, and then start your restore. As I have said I am no expert. I have created a boot disk before all the fancy programs came out, by just formating, and copying the OS2BOOT, OS2Krnl, OS2LDR. Then just attempting to boot up and copying the files to the boot disk that I needed every time I crashed. My friend will be trying this one of these days, If you want to wait I'll post his results when he tries it. Cesar Ventura, Telesector Resources Group ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 13:45:32 on 92/10/21 GMT (by NORD at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Converting from FAT to HPFS Ref: Append at 23:34:44 on 92/10/20 GMT (by NANR6GN at HONE82) Sounds interesting. Minimally, there's at least one thing to look out for. Your present system probably doesn't load the HPFS file system drivers. "IFS=C:\OS2\HPFS.IFS /CACHE:512 /CRECL:4 /AUTOCHECK:C" You'll ofcourse need these before you can use the newly formatted HPFS drive. Personally, I'd backup everything except OS/2. Format with HPFS, install the OS and Service Pack. Then restore the drive. Two advantages here: 1) You don't have to backup the OS/2 directories - save time. 2) The OS/2 installation program will configure the system For example, if you have no FAT drives, it is wasteful to load the FAT cache driver (I think). The install program will take care of these concerns. Joe Nord (MMPM/2 Audio Subsystems) ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 14:58:38 on 92/10/21 GMT (by ROK2027 at OS2CUST) Subject: Converting from FAT to HPFS Ref: Append at 13:45:32 on 92/10/21 GMT (by NORD at BCRVMPC1) I have 2 hard drives, each with 2 'disks'. Presently only my 'C' (boot) and 'E' (swap) are FAT and 'D' and 'F' are HPFS. I want to convert 'C' to HPFS as it seems faster and from my experience with the 'D'/'F' HPFS now seems relatively stable. I am hoping to retain my desktop and other config type stuff so I don't really want to reinstall GA, then SP. I am going to try backing up the entire drive and then reformat and restore. btw. I believe that sysinstx will replace the boot code on the boot disk. is that correct? Lionel Dyck - Rockwell International, Information Systems Center ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 22:21:15 on 92/10/21 GMT (by NANR6GN at HONE81) Subject: Converting from FAT to HPFS Ref: Append at 13:45:32 on 92/10/21 GMT (by NORD at BCRVMPC1) > 2) The OS/2 installation program will configure the system > For example, if you have no FAT drives, it is wasteful to > load the FAT cache driver (I think). > The install program will take care of these concerns. Joe, True statement, but I think there is a bug in the install program, in that even if you have an all HPFS Drive it still includes the line for a fat cache in the config.sys file. I've also seen the line for the ifs driver on an all FAT system. Cesar Ventura, Telesector Resources Group ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 23:05:39 on 92/10/21 GMT (by NORD at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Converting from FAT to HPFS Ref: Append at 22:21:15 on 92/10/21 GMT (by NANR6GN at HONE81) Quite right. re: HPFS drivers installed for an all FAT system I think the HPFS drivers get installed when you select "full install". Yes - even when you don't have any HPFS partitions. I guess this makes it easy to convert a partition to hpfs if you so get in the mood. There are many issues on this list of "why is this installed?" The one that really gets me is \OS2\MDOS and \OS2\MDOS\WINOS2 dirs being added to PATH/DPATH even when you don't install DOS support! Stuff like this isn't necessary! I guess we concentrate on big problems before annoyances like this get fixed. re: DISKCACHE My understanding is the same as yours. Its for FAT only. If install is putting it in regardless, I agree - shouldn't be there. But, being a multimedia type rather than an Install or Disk guru, I can't say this info is necessarily correct, but I can say that if you think install is unnecessarily configuring your system for poor performance, you can open a defect (aka PTR) by calling 1-(800) 237-5511 or via retain if you have direct access. Have a good day Cesar, Joe Nord (MMPM/2 Audio Subsystems) ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 02:29:33 on 92/10/22 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST) Subject: Converting from FAT to HPFS Ref: Append at 23:05:39 on 92/10/21 GMT (by NORD at BCRVMPC1) Even with a full HPFS system, does'nt DISKCAHE get used for floppy drive caching? Mike Long - CARD Iowa State University - PC/LAN Analyst ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 13:22:21 on 92/10/22 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8) Subject: Converting from FAT to HPFS Ref: Append at 23:05:39 on 92/10/21 GMT (by NORD at BCRVMPC1) Joe, Just FYI... OS2BBS Customers have a menu option to submit defect problem reports directly to OS/2 Support. Thanks for all your help, Stephen Poole OS/2 Service and Support - IBM Austin, TX ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 13:28:03 on 92/10/22 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8) Subject: Converting from FAT to HPFS Ref: Append at 02:29:33 on 92/10/22 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST) Mike, Yes, since all diskettes (and other removeable media) are automatically FAT, DISKCACHE would be used if present. I guess the question would be how often are you going to use diskettes (or other removeable media) and how important is the performance of that I/O versus freeing up a little extra memory? It does explain why the install would add it to the CONFIG.SYS even on an all HPFS system. Stephen Poole OS/2 Service and Support - IBM Austin, TX ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 13:28:14 on 92/10/22 GMT (by NORD at BCRVMPC1) Subject: Converting from FAT to HPFS Ref: Append at 02:29:33 on 92/10/22 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST) OS/2 Help (help diskcache) says: "The disk cache allows a portion of the system storage to be used as an additional hard disk buffer. ..." --------- I'm pretty sure writes to floppies go straight through (no cache). Reads could be a different story; but were out of my field here. Have fun all. Joe Nord (MMPM/2 Audio Subsystems) ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 13:02:32 on 92/10/23 GMT (by IL50072 at HONE82) Subject: MM Ref: Append at 13:28:14 on 92/10/22 GMT (by NORD at BCRVMPC1) Joe Nord - Since your a MMPM expert and our account is getting interested in this area, could you point me in some direction with using Multimedia. Should I just buy a Sound Blaster for my PS2 or what ? I'd like to knock the socks off the people who think Windoze 3.1 is the future platform. Thanks, Michael Fowler - ICF International ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 13:36:24 on 92/10/23 GMT (by IKAL at FRAVMKS2) Subject: Setting an environmental variable. Ref: None - I am writing a C program for OS/2 V1.3. , using MS C6.00A . - I need to set an environmental variable which will be alive after my C program has terminated. How can I do it? Thanks in advance. Iannnis Kalafatis - IBM Frankfurt, Germany. ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 14:25:48 on 92/10/23 GMT (by NORD at BCRVMPC1) Subject: MM Ref: Append at 13:02:32 on 92/10/23 GMT (by IL50072 at HONE82) Yep - Its about that easy. MMPM/2 GA ships with M-Audio(ACPA) device drivers. Creative Labs has released drivers for their sound blaster series and Media Vision is developing drivers for the Pro Audio Spectrum cards. These are good things as we now have the hardware support needed to penetrate the market. re: Sound Blaster for my PS/2 or what? If you have ISA bus, then SB will do you fine. For Microchannel, Creative Labs is investigating a conflict with SCSI. Shouldn't be too hard to fix. but right now (if you have SCSI and Microchannel) it points you to a M-Audio/ACPA card. Here's some ways to show off MMPM/2 abilities: -- Format a diskette in one window; play a .WAV file in another -- Bring up two media players (audio enabled applications) playing Mono channel music. Data is delivered to the hardware on-time; each app gets a separate channel and the sound does not break up. NOTE: This requires hardware that can play 2 mono channels. -- Show resource management with over committed resources: Bring up a third media player (media recorder this time). Start the other two playing mono (or stereo) .WAV files and then change the focus to the recorder app. MMPM/2 suspends the two players giving the hardware to the app that has focus. Change the focus back to one of the players and play picks up where it left off. Similar antics are supported for the CD player, but its not as impressive here. If you're planning to attend comdex, stop by; MMPM/2 will be on display with all the latest and greatest features. Joe Nord (MMPM/2 Audio Subsystems) ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 15:03:59 on 92/10/23 GMT (by IL54080 at HONE83) Subject: No icons are created in my FFST/2 and Public Applications Folders Ref: Append at 13:25:34 on 92/09/08 GMT (by IOWA09 at OS2CUST) My public applications folders for about two weeks now has been created with no 0rÉ»Cicons in it. I have tried to refresh it through the LAN Requester Full Screeen by »Cupdating my Program Starter option but no succes. I deleted the folder logoff and logon to the LAN but still no icons in the folder. At first I though it was a problem with the LAN Requester, however, today I run y »Cthe EPWINST.EXE program to setup my FFST/2 folder and found out that the folder y »Cgets created with icons or program objects in it even though EPWINST displays the messages "Added program 'EPW.EXE'" and so.. Since I changed my folders for ES and CM, I decided to further explore this problem and Σ»«tried running REINST to recreate the folders with the icons for ES and CM. Again the folders get created but no icons or program objects in them. Has anyone else experienced this?? If so, how can I fix it?? Any help is appreciated. folders John Charalambous ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 00:40:10 on 92/10/24 GMT (by IL19543 at OS2CUST) Subject: No icons are created in my FFST/2 and Public Applications Folders Ref: Append at 15:03:59 on 92/10/23 GMT (by IL54080 at HONE83) John, Back off the SOM fix. Mike Long - CARD Iowa State University - PC/LAN Analyst ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 00:59:37 on 92/10/27 GMT (by KENKAHN at PKSMRVM) Subject: Automatic Reboot Ref: Append at 16:29:05 on 92/10/26 GMT (by WZ00533 at LINK21) Issue the following command which will reBOOT the system without requiring Boot Manager to be installed: "SETBOOT /IBD:C" Kenneth Kahn Staff of IBM Fellow: IBM Personal/370 Poughkeepsie, NY Internet: KENKAHN@PKSMRVM.VNET.IBM.COM IBMMAIL: USIB25P9 at IBMMAIL ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 03:05:04 on 92/10/27 GMT (by LATHAMR at MSNVM2) Subject: DISKCACHE Ref: Append at 23:05:39 on 92/10/21 GMT (by NORD at BCRVMPC1) Hmmm. You don't by any chance have a floppy diskette drive in your system do you ? <big grin> Richard Latham ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 15:11:55 on 92/10/27 GMT (by WOODARDC at FSHVMX) Subject: Converting from FAT to HPFS Ref: Append at 22:21:15 on 92/10/21 GMT (by NANR6GN at HONE81) The diskcache statement is for diskettes, as a diskette cannot be formatted as HPFS. So, this is not a bug. As far as winos2 directories, I don't know about that, unless the dir is created for use later when you might wish to install winos2. Chuck @ FSHVMX ***Team OS/2 E.F.*** ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 15:19:56 on 92/10/27 GMT (by 86664498 at WARVM2) Subject: SWAP Drives ID With OS/2 V2 can you swap a drive letter assignment ? I have a CD-ROM which picks up the next available drive letter when it initialises. This causes problems because I have a network drive assigned to this letter and so it causes problems with my applications. Can anyone help with this ?? Cheers, Howard (dickelh at crovm1) Appended by: , 86664498 at WARVM2 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 15:31:40 on 92/10/27 GMT (by TIERNEYC at FSHVMDC) Subject:ERR_PIPE_BUSY Named Pipes I have a PS/2 that communicates with a second PS/2 via Named Pipes. I am using OS/2 1.3 with OS/2 2.0 LAN Server. All my pipe commands are issued from my main process. When the main process is the only process running, I can successfully DosClose both response and command pipes and DosOpen the response pipe and DosMakeNmPipe the command pipe. However, when I have a child process running ( this process does nothing but increment a counter and DosSleep) the return code from the DosClose is good but the return code from the DosOpen and DosMakeNmPipe is 231 ERROR_PIPE_BUSY. If the pipes close successfully how can they be busy ????? Can anyone Help ? Thanks Cathy Tierney Fshvmdc Tierneyc ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 15:56:50 on 92/10/27 GMT (by 86675957 at WARVM2) Subject: d Appended by: , 86675957 at WARVM2 ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 17:21:17 on 92/10/27 GMT (by TBHIC at OS2CUST) Subject: Capturing Config.sys output Is there a global way to capture the output of the config.sys into a file? This would be useful to those of us that like to know a little bit more about what is really happening in the OS. Matt Hickman, Chevron ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 22:30:54 on 92/10/27 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8) Subject: Automatic Reboot Ref: Append at 16:29:05 on 92/10/26 GMT (by WZ00533 at LINK21) Dave, Have you considered training the night janitor? <Grin> Sorry, I couldn't resist. I don't think there is any way to get an OS/2 Server to reboot without human intervention. There may be a way to somehow, someway get a "timed" program and device driver (that you write) to issue a reboot (much the way the install programs do at times); but, there is still the problem of doing a SHUTDOWN with no one present. How about using a remote dial in and one of the products that copy the system display on your remote. Then have a person (or revolving assignment among multiple people) be responsible for dialing in, shutting down, and rebooting. I would think that just because of the potential for the shutdown or the reboot having some problem, you would not want your applications to blindly take off running (or blindly being blown out in a CTRL-ALT-DEL). There's a lot to be said for having a human check for any problems rebooting before the night time applications go. Then if there is problems shutting down or rebooting, corrections can be done before the applications are run, rather than trying to back out and recover everything the next morning. This is just my personal opinion, not an "official" answer. Stephen Poole OS/2 Service and Support - IBM Austin, TX ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 22:39:46 on 92/10/27 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8) Subject:ERR_PIPE_BUSY Named Pipes Ref: Append at 15:31:40 on 92/10/27 GMT (by TIERNEYC at FSHVMDC) Cathy, When using named pipes over a LAN, you may need to use the DosConnectNPipe and DosDisConnectNPipe from the server application. Refer to the discussion on these and named LAN pipes in the OS/2 2.0 Programming Guide (NOT the PM Programming Guide), Chapter 9. The error you mention (ERROR_PIPE_BUSY) is documented as the return you will get when a requester attempts to open a pipe that the server has not issued a disconnect and reconnect on. Stephen Poole OS/2 Service and Support - IBM Austin, TX ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 03:34:41 on 92/10/28 GMT (by SDETWEIL at DETVMIC1) Subject: Automatic Reboot Ref: Append at 16:29:05 on 92/10/26 GMT (by WZ00533 at LINK21) Do SETBOOT /IBD:C to boot to the C: drive without Boot Mgr, else SETBOOT /IBD:drive WITH boot mgr... Sam ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 13:14:00 on 92/10/28 GMT (by UDSS013 at HONE82) Subject: Setting an environmental variable. Ref: Append at 13:36:24 on 92/10/23 GMT (by IKAL at FRAVMKS2) There's no way I know of to easily set a "global" environment variable. The environment is inherited from the parent when it is started and destroyed when the process is terminated. There isn't an easy way to propogate that information to the parent's environment ala 'export' in the Korn shell in UNIX. There are products like certain LAN requestors that do this, but they must be doing some ring 0 code. You might want to take a look at storing the information in the INI files using the 'Prf...' series of APIs. I have used this to effectively create global variables across applications. They are also retained across boot. Another technique would be to create your own "environment" in named shared memory and write a little API to access that. ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 18:48:33 on 92/10/28 GMT (by WZ00533 at LINK21) Subject: Automatic Reboot Ref: Append at 22:30:54 on 92/10/27 GMT (by SC025203 at AUSVM8) >Issue the following command which will reBOOT the system without requiring >Boot Manager to be installed: > "SETBOOT /IBD:C" Kenneth, Thanks for the reply... it works. Stephen, I think the above command will work for us. Your comments are welcome. I'll restate part of your comments as a question: 1) What problems will I encounter if a use SETBOOT /IBD:C? versus an orderly shutdown and reboot? We plan on rebooting each Sunday morning about 2:00 am. We can 'almost' guarantee no activity at that time. FWIW, the reason our people want to reboot weekly is the suspicion that OS/2 2.0 gets 'flaky' after awhile?? Hence question 2 2) Are there any reason to reboot a server periodically (other than the obvious)? Thanks again for both of your responses. Dave Ferrey - Bethlehem Steel Corp. Bethlehem PA. ----- OS2BASE CFORUM appended at 19:54:20 on 92/10/29 GMT (by NAAO3IY at HONE84) Subject: Automatic Reboot Ref: Append at 18:48:33 on 92/10/28 GMT (by WZ00533 at LINK21) There are some known leaks in memory management among the fixes in the service pack, so yes, there are some points where 2.0 GA "gets flakey after a while". John Kennedy, Hoechst Celanese (The OS/2 Hobbit)