¢ o=o=o=o=o=¢ THE OHAUG MEETING 12/20/97¢¢ TREASURER'S REPORT:¢ We're in the black.¢¢ CORRESPONDENCE:¢ ALAN SHARKIS reminded us that he¢ received a letter from STUART MURRAY¢ with a request for us to send him our¢ Newsletter in exchange for public¢ domain disks from Europe from him,¢ and read a letter he had written to¢ Stuart confirming that we will do¢ just that.¢¢ ALAN also reported that the Editor of¢ Tyne & Wear Newsletter is considering¢ quitting unless his members submit¢ more articles. Also, JEAN BROKAW is¢ leaving her position with the¢ PACESetter Newsletter. They've¢ already elected a replacement.¢¢ Alan also wrote an editorial saying¢ in summary he would like to see the¢ club moving two directions. He¢ would like to see the Club do more to¢ support PC's -- for those club¢ members who have PC's to use their¢ PC's to enhance what their Atari 8-¢ bits are doing rather than give up¢ the 8-bit in favor of the PC. The¢ second area is that he'd like the¢ Club to have more of a presence on¢ the internet.¢¢ JACK GEDALIUS feels the two machines¢ do not conflict with each other. He¢ feels his son can help with a WEB¢ page for OHAUG. There are 8-bitters¢ on the internet and it can be done. ¢ You can go on Worldwide Web also. ¢ You can go on AOL if you have PC. If¢ you have only 8-bit you must find an¢ internet service provider who will¢ allow you to have text and UNIX-based¢ kind of account which used to be¢ called a shell account. At that¢ point you have to telnet to one of¢ the various sites that runs a Lynx¢ browser (if your own ISP doesn't) and¢ the software you use has to be¢ capable of 80 columns and VC100¢ terminal emulation. There are 2 or 3¢ packages on the market, among them¢ are FlickerTerm, Term 80, and Ice-T.¢ We have at least 2 of them in the¢ Library.¢¢ ALAN went on to tell us that e-mail¢ and Usenet newsgroups are very simple¢ to access and are text based. CURT¢ VENDEL has a page up called the Atari¢ Prototype & Vaporware Museum, JOHN¢ HARDIE has a page that he shares with¢ a few other people which is all about¢ video games. We're looking for a¢ free site for 1 to several pages. If¢ an individual member has an ISP,¢ sometimes he is offered space to put¢ a page for free. In California there¢ is Geocities, which a number of clubs¢ use for their pages and there are¢ others scattered around who will do¢ this. Another way is to purchase a¢ domain name which means you have an¢ exclusive address on the internet¢ which you must pay a fee for. Should¢ we investigate it and if so, what¢ should we put on our page? RON¢ FETZER asked how much can you put on¢ a page? ALAN responded that the page¢ can scroll & can be as long or short¢ as you want but on the page you have¢ links and you can get to other sites¢ and others can get to your site.¢¢ ALAN also suggested people could mail¢ their PC questions here and having¢ them answered here. RON wants to¢ know who would answer the questions. ¢ ALAN said they would be shared among¢ the PC-owning Atari group members to¢ answer.¢¢ HARRY TUTHILL asked where does¢ Internet end and World Wide WEB¢ begin. ALAN responded World Wide is¢ part of Internet. It's the graphical¢ part. Some people think it is the¢ Internet, but there are other parts. ¢ Through Internet e-mail, for example,¢ you can sign on to mailing lists. ¢ There is also a place to¢ buy/sell/trade, express opinions and¢ ask for advice (newsgroups), ftp¢ sites for file storage (like the one¢ at UMICH) from which you can download¢ files. The WEB has picked up on¢ these things and can now encompass¢ ftp, etc. and integrate graphics into¢ all.¢¢ ALAN found that he was better off¢ with an Internet provider who didn't¢ provide all the extras but gets him¢ on the Internet. "I'm using EROLS¢ and paid for 3 years in advance,¢ which came out to $9.95 a month.)¢¢ A discussion followed where HARRY¢ heard of a program that the Nassau¢ Public Libraries will start in the¢ spring, giving free Inernet access to¢ card holders.¢¢ JACK GEDALIUS suggested various uses¢ for the proposed WEB page. Then JACK¢ welcomed and introduced a new member,¢ MEL LEVINE who went on to discuss his¢ background on the Atari. MEL said¢ his background is very limited on the¢ Atari though he has had it for many¢ years. He's familiar with the¢ Atariwriter. JACK offered to give¢ him a Master disk from the Club and¢ if he has any questions he should¢ feel free to call JACK. A short¢ discussion followed among the¢ members.¢¢ CORRESPONDENCE:¢¢ RON showed a card from ALEX's wife¢ which he read to club members needing¢ advice on what to do with ALEX's¢ computer room.¢¢ DAVID OLDFIELD ordered many disks and¢ his order has gone out to him.¢¢ JOHN POWELL sent money for May thru¢ December Newsletters which we sent¢ him.¢¢ A guy in Bombay India asked for turbo¢ disks which we sent.¢¢ JOHN JOHNSON asked for calendar which¢ RON mailed him.¢¢ JACK GEDALIUS brought up discussion¢ on winter party. Members decided to¢ have it at Lambrou's again on a¢ Friday night in February to be¢ decided by JACK.¢¢ JACK then wished everyone happy¢ holidays and members wished him the¢ same.¢¢ DEMONSTRATIONS:¢ RON demod a disk from ABBUC #1029, an¢ interface for Print Shop. Side 1¢ is Tricky Print. Side 2 is¢ Dynoblast, a pretty good game with¢ options, written in English (Library¢ #702).¢¢ Next Ron demod an ABBUC disk from¢ Sonder(Special) Magazine #22. ¢ Protocol year 1997 lists of parts,¢ book service, building plan service¢ all in German. Then we tried an¢ interlace picture (it goes back &¢ forth), we brought up a few of them¢ (Library #703).¢¢ Then RON demod another disk from¢ Sonder Magazine #21 called the BIBO¢ Assembler. It has instructions in¢ German (Library #704).¢¢ Next RON had a disk from ALAN an SLCC¢ #1512 12/97 from The San Leandro¢ Computer Club. We tried a double¢ decker object, two table, pinball¢ machine game. Then we tried Crime¢ One, a text adventure game. Then¢ Spook Busters the Super-natural Game.¢ Side 1 is all games. Then we tried¢ Side 2's Rambler Gambler which has¢ various gambling games - we tried¢ Blackjack. Side 2 has more games ¢ (Library #705).¢¢ DOOR PRIZES:¢ ¢ Courtesy of HARRY TUTHILL as follows:¢¢ George Gable won first prize.¢ Harold Pegler won second prize.¢ Jack Gedalius won third prize.¢ Mel Levine won fourth prize (but had¢ left.)¢ Al Atkins won fifth prize.¢¢ o=o=o=o=o=¢¢¢
