MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBER 1992 MEETING¢ ====================================¢¢ NEWEST MEMBER¢¢ LOU TRAPANI joined our club. LOU¢ is the SYSOP of our local BBS in¢ Oceanside. The BBS is called THE¢ MACHINE and the number is (516) 764-¢ 5748. The BBS is networked with a¢ NATIONWIDE net, including CANADA. LOU¢ works on Saturdays so we will not see¢ much of him at our meetings but call¢ him up on the BBS and go to CHAT¢ (Press C) and say Hello.¢¢ CORRESPONDENCE:¢¢ AIM wrote to the club and¢ reminded us that we had to renew our¢ subscriptions. It has already been¢ done by the Treasurer.¢ A letter from JOHN JOHNSON our¢ member from Oregon. He tells us that¢ he is getting more information and¢ programs from us then from the clubs¢ in Oregon. He sent us 2 great games.¢ One was "MARIO'S DESERT WORLD" and¢ the other was "TETRUS 3D". They will¢ be in the library. See under DEMOES¢ further discussions on these games.¢ We discussed what the rights of an¢ author is when he has submitted works¢ to a magazine which is now out of¢ business. Without research we have no¢ idea what the legal status is. Analog¢ and Antic disks are being listed by¢ clubs all over in their PD libraries.¢ THE OL'HACKERS has not put any Analog¢ or Antic disks in our PD library¢ because we are very cautious, perhaps¢ overly so.¢ A letter from HAROLD PEGLER to¢ PATRICK HAYES, WILL ROTH, DANE¢ STEGMAN and CURT VENDEL. He sent them¢ each the latest version of the OHAUG¢ LIBRARY DISK. He told them about our¢ DISK SPECIAL for Non-local members.¢ You can get 5 disks for $8.00. These¢ are double sided disks. The price¢ includes mailing. If you want to¢ avail yourself of this special you¢ can send HAROLD your selection. Make¢ the check payable to RON FETZER,¢ personally. HAROLD also sent a¢ similar letter to all our members in¢ England. HAROLD does a terrific job¢ with the library. This is one of the¢ reasons the OL' HACKERS are so¢ successful.¢ AL SHARKIS our member from East¢ Meadow received a letter from DAVE¢ EWENS our English member. He said he¢ would not change his 8-Bit computer¢ fo anything. He and the other 3 OL' H¢ members have decided to start their¢ own printed newsletter. The¢ OL'HACKERS gave them permission to¢ use anything from our newsletters¢ provided we and the author received¢ credit for it.¢ ALEX read a thank you note from¢ the FETZER family for the condolences¢ that the club sent upon the death¢ from Alzheimers decease of RON'S¢ stepfather. JOSEPH HICSWA our¢ member from N.J.¢ informs us that he will be running¢ for president of JACG. Good LUCK¢ JOE! He tells us that he is impressed¢ by the newsletter. He particularly¢ complemented HAROLD PEGLER our¢ librarian for a great job.¢ A message from BEN POEHLAND our¢ member from PA. to ALEX via GEnie .¢ He said that after the WACE fest he¢ shipped all the mailing labels to the¢ publisher for distribution of the AC¢ magazine. The magazine were sent out¢ by the bulk mailer the last week of¢ October. Most 8-Biters will have the¢ magazine by the middle of November.¢ JIM CUTLER our member from¢ England wrote to ALEX and said he has¢ a friend in France who might join. We¢ sent him a sample newsletter and¢ some other published material about¢ the club.¢ JIM also writes that he got the¢ newsletter disk. He made a copy and¢ sent it to his friend STEFAN in¢ MOSCOW. The 8-bitter in Moscow uses¢ 65XE, a XF551 and a Epson printer.¢ JIM is now on COMPUSERVE. JIM is¢ getting his 800XL upgraded to 256K.¢ Seems that we are really going around¢ te world.¢¢ DALE WOOSTER, President of NWPAC¢ (NORTH WESTERN PHOENIX ATARI CLUB)¢ said they made a DISK OF THE MONTH¢ from some of the bonus programs from ¢ our newsletters. THATS QUITE AN¢ HONOR, and we THANK YOU.¢ ¢ DISCUSSIONS:¢¢ LOU TRAPANI is the SYSOP of the¢ local BBS "THE MACHINE" (516)764-¢ 5748. The BBS is located in¢ Oceanside so it is a local call for¢ most of us. ALEX, HARRY, ALAN¢ SHARKIS, ALAN ATKINS and RON FETZER¢ have been on the BBS. When you log on¢ be prepared to create your own¢ PASSWORD. When you log off answer¢ "YES" to save your password. The¢ normal use time is 30 minutes. The¢ upload to download ratio is 7¢ downloads to 1 upload, for OL' HACKER¢ members. Here are some of the¢ commands you can use: R=READ; L=LOG¢ OFF; A=ALL; N=NEW; B=BROWSE; C=CHAT¢ WITH SYSOP; F=FEEDBACK TO SYSOP; GO¢ ATARI8=8 BIT SECTION; !=HELP. You¢ will receive an I.D. number, be sure¢ to save it when asked. You will need¢ it to log on again.¢ How to go on the BBS the first¢ time. When the screen comes on your¢ computer press RETURN. Then it asks¢ for I.D. number and password. If you¢ don't have any it will ask for your¢ name, address, and telephone number.¢ If you are an OL'HACKER please tell¢ the SYSOP. When you log on again¢ after the General Discussion prompt,¢ type the letter "R" for read. The¢ screen scrolls and then "NEW" comes¢ on. It is a default that if you want¢ to see the new messages it will show¢ it. "A" will give you all the¢ messages. When you read a message and¢ you want to respond type "R" for¢ response. When you are finished¢ reading the messages you can type "GO¢ ATARI8" and you will go to the 8 -¢ BIT SIG. CNTL G will print the word¢ "GO" which you can also use. When you¢ are n the 8-BIT section you hit "R"¢ again to read. It is the same as the¢ General Discussion section. When you¢ want to upload a file hit the ">"¢ sign. It will first ask you for a one¢ line description of the program. Then¢ it will ask you for KEYWORDS of the¢ program, such as Utility, Game etc.¢ After this you would set up your¢ modem parameter. Then it will ask you¢ for a 1 paragraph description of the¢ program.¢ When you want to download a¢ message hit "B" for browse. If you¢ are stuck [SHIFT & ?] will give you a¢ menu. When you are in the browse mode¢ and you want to download hit "D" and¢ follow the prompts.¢ ALEX reminded everyone to¢ consider "PLANNING FOR INCAPACITY¢ NOW! Everyone should make out a¢ LIVING WILL, and HEALTH CARE WILL.¢ Most Secretary OF States have a¢ booklet about it. If you are ill and¢ go to the hospital and are terminal¢ (never, I hope) the hospital will¢ know what to do. This booklet can¢ save you thousands of dollars by¢ doing it yourself instead of an¢ attorney doing it for you. EVERYONE¢ should have a living will made out.¢¢ DEMOES:¢¢ JACK GEDALIUS showed us how to¢ use CHROMA CAD. It is a color design¢ program. The program comes on several¢ disks. One disk is to construct a¢ wire frame 3D picture. After that you¢ load it into the shader program and¢ it can then be a full picture. You¢ can see any angle of the object that¢ you drew. You can rotate it. You can¢ shine the light on it from any¢ direction that you want. You can show¢ several pictures at one time. The¢ program is menu driven. You can set¢ the X, Y and Z axis anyway you want¢ to. You have many graphic modes you¢ can use. You can change the colors of¢ the pictures. It is one of the MOST¢ INTERESTING programs that I have ever¢ seen for the 8-Bit. The documentation¢ is quite extensive. It can be¢ purchased for $29.95 from many mail¢ order houses. It was a great demo by¢ JACK which required a lot of time to¢ prepare.¢ AL ATKINS said that the SAMS¢ PHOTO FACT REPAIR MANUALS are now¢ available in the East Meadow Library.¢ If you buy them they are $25.00 each.¢ There are manuals for 130XE, 800,¢ 800XL, 810, 1025, 1050 and the 400.¢ You can copy the section you need for¢ less than $1.00. (See AL's article on¢ this newsletter for more info.)¢ DALE WOOSTER sent us some color¢ printouts done with the color STAR¢ RAINBOW printer. They are very well¢ done and effective. He uses REMBRANDT¢ and YEMACYB to print out the¢ pictures.¢ CHARLES COLE our member from¢ Arizona had 3 of his articles in¢ CURRENT NOTES. They are dynamite¢ articles. Don't miss reading them.¢ ALEX showed us a POKEY DISK¢ NEWSLETTER. They use Sparta DOS. It¢ is based similar to our format. A¢ very nice newsletter. On it they have¢ PSTODD3. A very nice utility that¢ converts Print Shop Icons to Daisy¢ Dot III format.¢ RON FETZER showed a new program¢ from AUSTRALIA called LETTERHEAD¢ MAKER. RON showed some examples of¢ different letterheads that he and¢ ALEX had made with this program. It¢ is a very nice program and user¢ friendly. You can draw your own¢ designs or logos for the letterhead.¢ I used a track ball and it worked¢ very well. I found a way of importing¢ Print Shop Icons to use with the¢ letterhead, with PSINTERFACE program.¢ Now LETTERHEAD MAKER is really very¢ flexible. The program is fully¢ documented and is available from our¢ library. It is much better than the¢ PRINT SHOP VERSION of letterhead. You¢ can use a TRACK BALL or JOY STICKS or¢ the arrow keys. The arrow keys are¢ for fine movement and exact control.¢ The program also has a text function,¢ where you can overlay text on your¢ graphic. It will be #231 in the¢ library. This is a great program¢ everyone should have! ¢ ALEX showed his favorite card¢ game which is "HEARTS". He tells us¢ that he has to get a fix every day.¢ He has to play this game at least¢ twice a day. HEARTS is a card game¢ that you play against the computer.¢ It is very addictive. The point of¢ the game is that you try to get the¢ lowest score to win. You play against¢ 3 computer players. You need a¢ joystick to play the game. The 3¢ computer players are very¢ sophisticated so it is not easy to¢ win a game. The library number is¢ #232.¢ JOHN JOHNSON our member from¢ Oregon sent us 2 great games. RON¢ showed the first game to the club¢ called "Mario's Desert World". Where¢ Mario has to jump from place to place¢ without being eaten up. A good game¢ for everyone. It has a number of¢ levels of difficulty.¢ The next disk was TETRIS 3D a¢ new version. In this version the¢ blocks come toward you and then you¢ have to place them. This game is for¢ the professional game player. Very¢ tricky to play. It comes also from¢ JOHN JOHNSON of Oregon. Ask HAROLD¢ for these games.¢¢ DOOR PRIZES:¢¢ FRANK CASTALDO¢ HARRY TUTHILL¢ ALAN SHARKIS¢ JACK GEDALIUS¢ HAROLD PEGLER¢ ALAN ATKINS¢ RON FETZER¢ ALAN ATKINS --> LETTERHEAD DESIGNER¢ BOB ULSCHMID --> LETTERHEAD DESIGNER¢¢ ALEX demoed the M.A.G.I.C.¢ NEWSLETTERS for Sept. 1992. These¢ disks are terrific. They have a lot¢ of unique programs on their¢ newsletter disks. ALEX showed several¢ programs from this disk.¢ The 2nd MA.G.I.C. disk had a¢ super finance program on it with many¢ financial options. The disk was the¢ AUGUST 1992 disk.¢ BOTH DISKS ARE NOW IN OUR LIBRARY!¢¢ Submitted by¢ Ron Fetzer¢¢ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>END<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<¢¢
