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Date: Wed, 21 Aug 85 15:14 CDT
From: Neil Erdwien <VMAA5@KSUVM>
Subject: TRS-80 Version of KERMIT
To: <DFTCU@CUVMA>
I have been having a few problems with the Model I/III TRS-80 KERMIT.
1. (omitted)
2. The recommended method of getting a micro version is to download
'TRSMAKE/BAS', and run it on the TRS-80; it writes 'KERMIT/CMD'.
Along the way, it keeps a checksum to verify the accuracy of the
download. Unfortunately, TRSMAKE consistantly reports an error.
Repeated downloads produce the exact same "wrong" checksum. I
suspect that the "correct" checksum is in fact wrong.
The resulting KERMIT/CMD works OK as far as I have seen.
3. On KERMSRV there is a file called 'TRSDNLD BAS' which seems to be a
version of 'TRSMAKE BAS'. When downloaded and run, it produces no
checksum error. Both resulting versions of kermit claim to be
Version 3.5. I assume one or the other is out-of-date.
Please advise me as to which is current.
4. On KERMSRV there is a file called 'TRSCMD HEX', which seems to serve no
purpose. There is no need for a file of printable hex to download,
because the above BASIC program does the job. (Besides, several other
'fn HEX' files would be needed also.
5. The VT52 emulation doesn't really exist in the TRS-80 version. I tried
to use this KERMIT with an IBM 7171 protocall converter, with all the
escape sequences showing. I suppose this is a really hard problem to
solve, given that the TRS-80 screen is only 64 characters wide.
I hope I don't sound like too much of a grouch. I realize that the TRS-80
is not a state-of-the-art machine any more. Still, the documentation
for existing programs ought to be current.
Thank you for your time. VMAA5@KSUVM.BITNET
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Date: Mon, 16 Mar 87 21:03:01 EST
From: Charles L Oei <burdvax!thing2.PRC.Unisys.COM!oei@seismo.CSS.GOV>
Subject: TRS Model 1
Keywords: TRS Kermit
I have several remarks though that you might want to put into a .BWR file
for future users of Kermit for the TRS80 Model 1 running TRSDOS 2.3:
Of the files that are distributed, a person really only needs to see:
TRSMIT.DOC.1 and TRSMAKE.BAS.1
The others are either Z80 assembly language source code (for good latenight
reading), or miscellaneous/extraneous files that are of no real consequence.
[TRSDNLD.BAS.1 when downloaded and ran produces correct checksum, but
the resultant /CMD file doesn't seem to run correctly (at least the couple
of times I tried it -- it could otherwise, but I didn't want to invest any
more time since TRSMAKE did work satisfactorily).]
When TRSMAKE.BAS is downloaded and ran, don't worry about that it says
that the checksum is wrong, it's probably just fine. Here are the checksums
that TRSMAKE says it should be and what I get, respectively: 976487 976454
There are two problems (of any real consequence) with the resulting
KERMIT/CMD file:
1) not so bad is that vt52 emulation doesn't work
2) The other is that I couldn't talk w/ other Kermits unless I set
set the parity to "space". The Kermit on the other end doesn't
have to set its parity to space though. [After this, all
went well].
Also, some annoying things that I had with it were:
in terminal "connect" mode, I have no cursor;
the <break> key in command mode doesn't appear to "abort" a command,
but the <clear> key seems to do the trick anyway;
in "connect" mode, the <control> key designation doesn't work either.
Oh, and probably some other minor things too, but overall, it's great.
At least it works and sends/receives files better than raw transfers
sans error checking.
Thanks to Stan Barber and the original writers of CP/M 80 Kermit.
Charles Oei
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