The World of Ham Radio CD-ROM From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:26:35 1996 From: gfoley@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Gerard Foley) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 'cell driving' illegal Date: 1 Mar 1996 09:42:46 -0500 Message-ID: <4h72d6$ep3@acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us> References: <4h4fuc$bd0@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <1996Feb29.181656.17837@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Gary Coffman (gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us) wrote: : As I understand the history of the law, it was introduced at the time : when the Walkman was new, and was intended primarily to prevent people : from driving around wearing Walkman headsets and thus not able to hear : warning sounds. The absurdity of this, of course, is that in a modern sedan with the windows closed and the radio turned on, the driver will hear even less than if he had full closure double earphones. Gerry K8EF From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:26:36 1996 From: clarke@aztec.asu.edu (JACK CLARKE) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 'cell driving' illegal Date: 4 Mar 1996 14:39:41 GMT Message-ID: <4hevbd$r5t@news.asu.edu> So, what is the difference between a handheld telephone and a handy-talkie ( for purposes of this discussion. They seem the same risk to me. Jack VE3EED /W7 -- From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:26:37 1996 From: Steve Butler Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 'cell driving' illegal Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 10:47:32 -0800 Message-ID: References: <4h72d6$ep3@acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us> <4hdbpb$g79@jupiter.planet.net> On 3 Mar 1996, Steve - KF2TI wrote: > > : from driving around wearing Walkman headsets and thus not able to hear > > : warning sounds. > > > > The absurdity of this, of course, is that in a modern sedan with the > > windows closed and the radio turned on, the driver will hear even less > > than if he had full closure double earphones. > > > > Also affects those who have 1 earpiece boom/mike headsets > One wonders how the deaf ever manage to drive. Certainly they should be required to hear before getting a license! <> +----------------------------------------------------+ | Steve Butler Voice: 206-464-2998 | | The Seattle Times Fax: 206-382-8898 | | PO Box 70 Internet: sbut-is@seatimes.com | | Seattle, WA 98111 Packet: KG7JE@N6EQZ.WA | +----------------------------------------------------+ All standard and non-standard disclaimers apply. All other sources are annonymous. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:26:38 1996 From: raiar@inlink.com (Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr.) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 'cell driving' illegal Date: Wed, 06 Mar 1996 17:27:05 GMT Message-ID: <4hkhel$5jo@news1.inlink.com> References: <4h72d6$ep3@acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us> <4hdbpb$g79@jupiter.planet.net> Steve Butler wrote: >One wonders how the deaf ever manage to drive. Certainly they should be >required to hear before getting a license! ><> Our hearing impared friends on the highways don't bother me as much as those who cannot see or are totally oblivious to anyone else on the road. TTUL Gary From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:26:39 1996 From: nickb@alpine (Nicholas Barbieri) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 'cell driving' illegal Date: 6 Mar 1996 14:51:35 GMT Message-ID: <4hk8pn$rs5@spock.asic.sc.ti.com> References: <4hdbpb$g79@jupiter.planet.net> <4hg8bh$pr6@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <4hhc3e$g3v@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> In California at least, dual speaker earphones are banned because they focus the attention of the driver away from driving, in addition to blocking out sirens, etc. I notice, however, that our local firemen wear aircraft headsets that are designed to block out sirens and diesel engine noise when they are driving. Does anybody know what the regs are with regard to motorcycle headsets? I've seen dual speaker helmet sets in the local bike shops, but didn't know if they're legal. How would a cop know the difference? Can a person be stopped if he's wearing a walkman headset? (CA drivers can be stopped for not wearing a seatbelt.) -- Nick Barbieri Texas Instruments ASIC Engineering email: nlb1@ti.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:26:40 1996 From: kd1yvjim@aol.com (KD1YVJim) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 'cell driving' illegal Date: 4 Mar 1996 21:19:29 -0500 Message-ID: <4hg8bh$pr6@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <4hdbpb$g79@jupiter.planet.net> Reply-To: kd1yvjim@aol.com (KD1YVJim) It seems to me that deaf persons are allowed to drive. I have questioned law-enforcement types in 2 far-apart jurisdictions where I have lived, and one answer was "no restriction" on headsets, while the other was "one ear must be uncovered". Therefore, I think that it is safe to assume that the law varies from one state to the next. Just a reminder on a topic brought up earlier in this thread - regardless of local or state laws regarding scanners in vehicles, the FCC has ruled that licensed amateur radio operators are exempt from any such laws. 73 de Jim KD1YV From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:26:41 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: jlowman@netcom.com (Jim Lowman) Subject: Re: 'cell driving' illegal Message-ID: References: <4hdbpb$g79@jupiter.planet.net> <4hg8bh$pr6@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <4hhc3e$g3v@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 01:21:17 GMT Christopher K Greenhalgh (cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) wrote: : Besides, noise in its self is somewhat distracting...how many of you : have turned down your radio when looking for an address? :) With the cars of today being designed to shut out most of the noise originating outside the vehicle, and the fact that most of us have the radio or a CD playing while we drive, the law seems a bit contradictory. I have had emergency vehicles approach from the rear or from a side street, and they were "right on top" of me before I noticed them, as a result. With the long commutes into and out of LA each weekday, there are a lot of stories about what some people do while driving. The makeup-in-the-rear-view-mirror stories are old hat, when compared with shaving, reading a book or newspaper, etc. The best one I heard was the woman who was changing from her business attire to her workout clothes while driving; a definite attention-grabber! Jim - KF6CR San Bernardino, CA From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:26:42 1996 From: kd1yvjim@aol.com (KD1YVJim) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 'cell driving' illegal Date: 5 Mar 1996 20:53:35 -0500 Message-ID: <4hir6v$omp@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <1996Mar4.165849.13763@schbbs.mot.com> Reply-To: kd1yvjim@aol.com (KD1YVJim) From what I have seen, the problem with many cell-phone drivers is that they cannot concentrate on one thing at a time for more than 2 minutes, much less walking and chewing gum, or driving at 75 mph in bumper-to-bumper rush-hour traffic and talking to their biggest client/lover/enemy. Perhaps drivers should be subjected to an intelligence test :-) 73 de Jim KD1YV From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:26:42 1996 From: rkram51@aol.com (RKram51) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave Subject: Re: 3/3/96 Ham Radio & More on 5.065mhz Date: 4 Mar 1996 23:33:30 -0500 Message-ID: <4hgg6q$cj@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <4h9v9t$kif@globe.indirect.com> Reply-To: rkram51@aol.com (RKram51) Oh boy! I hope the professor gives us some more details on all the expensive stuff he owns again! Your listeners can really identify with that. And everyone loves his pretentious attitude. Now he can be a boor worldwide! From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:26:44 1996 From: lenwink@indirect.com (Len Winkler) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave Subject: 3/3/96 Ham Radio & More on 5.065mhz Date: Sat, 02 Mar 96 17:08:12 GMT Message-ID: <4h9v9t$kif@globe.indirect.com> If all goes as planned, the Ham Radio & More Show will be broadcast live this sunday, 3/3/96, on WWCR, on 5.065mhz, at 6:00pm ET, 2300utc. The producers of the show wish to thank WWCR Shortwave for their support on the airing of the show. Be aware that with shortwave radio, frequencies are known to change often, so always check other frequencies if the show is not on 5.065. Check 7.435 and 9.475. Also, check out our home pages as listed below courtesy of BARC (Scott Ehrlich) and our RealAudio page, courtesy of TAPR (Greg Jones). Give us a call on the live show.......this sunday is RagChew Sunday with Host Len Winkler, KB7LPW, and ....The Professor, Ned Stearns AA7A. The toll free United States number is 1-800-293-5366 and worldwide at 1-602-230-2755. 73, Len Len Winkler, KB7LPW lenwink@indirect.com P.O. Box 9219 kb7lpw@kc7y.az.usa.na Phoenix, Az. 85068-9219 Ham Radio & More Show info at: http://www.barc.org/barc/ham-more.html RealAudio site: www.tapr.org/hrm/hrm.html The show airs LIVE at 6:00pm ET on many stations throughout the country. The show also airs on WWCR shortwave, tape delayed at 1000utc on 7.435, on Mon days, and Saturdays at 1700utc on 12.160. LIVE ON WWCR, 5.065 mhz.....also check 7.435mhz, 2300utc Support "WOG". Written only General!!! From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:26:45 1996 From: mwhite@mitre.org (Michael White) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: [tv station] attacks ham Date: Mon, 04 Mar 1996 14:18:02 -0500 Message-ID: References: Bruce Miller wrote: > You know, this is the kind of sleazy, sensationalist, dishonest > reporting ... that gets my goat about the media. The media does this kind of thing because there's a market for it. If people didn't watch, they wouldn't do it. It's a reflection of our culture, and that's a pity. Mike, N4PDY. -- mwhite@mitre.org My opinions are my own, not my employer's. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:26:45 1996 From: axinar@one.net (Axinar) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Airport/Aircraft Regulations Date: Sun, 03 Mar 1996 22:04:12 GMT Message-ID: <4hd526$7kp@news.one.net> Reply-To: axinar@one.net Well, believe it or not, I have actually been at a job long enough to acrue some vacation time, so I'm going to see my mother in Boise, ID at the end of the month. This is the first time that I will have been on an aircraft of any kind since becomming a ham. Now, I know that you are not allow to transmit from a commercial aircraft, but: Are you allowed to carry an HT onto a commercial airliner if you don't use it? Are you allowed to carry and/or use an HT in an airport? 73! axinar@one.net John KB8GYS @ K8SCH.#CIN.OH.USA.NA From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:26:47 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: n1ist@netcom.com (Michael L. Ardai) Subject: Re: Airport/Aircraft Regulations Message-ID: References: <4hd526$7kp@news.one.net> Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 23:36:55 GMT In article <4hd526$7kp@news.one.net> axinar@one.net writes: -Now, I know that -you are not allow to transmit from a commercial aircraft, but: - -Are you allowed to carry an HT onto a commercial airliner if you don't -use it? I have never had any problems with it. Make sure the battery is fully charged, and set it to the local weather channel before passing thru security. I usually put it in the same pass-around box with my change and keys, and then turn it on to show them that it makes noise. -Are you allowed to carry and/or use an HT in an airport? I have done both; just watch out for causing unwanted RFI; once I realized that my HT was occaisionally setting off the metal detector from 5 feet away. I just quietly moved to the other side of the lounge :-) One other tip: Look in the book to figure out how to put it in AM RX and look up the arrive/depart and the airline freqs to give something else to listen to while waiting. And use headphones... /mike -- \|/ Michael L. Ardai N1IST -*- ---------------------------------- /|\ n1ist@netcom.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:26:47 1996 From: denoid95x@aol.com (DeNoid95X) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Airport/Aircraft Regulations Date: 4 Mar 1996 22:00:11 -0500 Message-ID: <4hganr$qvh@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <4he5b3$i71@nadine.teleport.com> Reply-To: denoid95x@aol.com (DeNoid95X) Thats a grat idea never thought of it when on a airliner to set it to NOAA thanks for the idea N9RLR/2 From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:26:49 1996 From: n7ws@azstarnet.com (Wes Stewart) Newsgroups: sci.astro.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,misc.invest.technical,misc.invest.stocks,misc.invest.funds,misc.invest.canada Subject: Re: Announsing: Technology Patent Available For Purchase Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 20:50:45 LOCAL Message-ID: References: <4hdlvj$kvv@sun.sirius.com> <4hfqtn$6kb@murrow.corp.sgi.com> In article <4hfqtn$6kb@murrow.corp.sgi.com> jimf@zoinks.corp.sgi.com (Jim Fell ows) writes: >In article , >gherbst@msn.com writes: >|> Paul, >|> >|> That's a very blatent claim you make. This patent went through with only >|> one need for clarification from the PTO. Obviously know one else sought >|> such a patent which is evidence by the PTO issuing me patent # 5457342. >|> >|> Those companies you mention have devices that are similar with respect to >|> cooling only if you care to follow the patents mentioned on my abstract. >|> However, NONE have developed the device I have NOR do they have a patent >|> on such a device. As such, I am the sole owner to pursue development of >|> this product or companies under infringement. >|> >|> Gaerhardt G. Herbst >|> >What I am wondering is what this has anything to do with amateur radio antenn as, >homebrew, space, etc.? The point is that this, and the preceding posts were >made to the amateur radio news groups. >Cooling of microprocessors, and your grandstanding of being awarded a patent are >of no interest to me or in any way pertinent to my interest in amateur radio. >And that is why the newsgroup(s) have those titles. >If you are looking for invetors, get a clue and do it somewhere else. >If you are simply so proud of yourself for being awarded a patent for what >appears to be anothers work, then HIP HIP HOORAY for you! Now grow up and go >away. >Jim Amen, Jim. If this thing works like this guy spells, he's got a tough sell. "Announsing", "blatent" and "know one else" indeed. I don't know what his device is, because searching for the number didn't work for me. Sounds like a Peltier device, but I guess it could be cold fusion. 73, Wes -- N7WS From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:26:50 1996 From: paul@laughton.com (Paul Laughton) Newsgroups: sci.astro.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,misc.invest.technical,misc.invest.stocks,misc.invest.funds,misc.invest.canada Subject: Re: Announsing: Technology Patent Available For Purchase Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 07:42:56 GMT Message-ID: <4hgr8o$p96@sun.sirius.com> References: <4hdlvj$kvv@sun.sirius.com> Reply-To: paul@laughton.com gherbst@msn.com wrote: >Paul, >That's a very blatent claim you make. This patent went through with only >one need for clarification from the PTO. Obviously know one else sought >such a patent which is evidence by the PTO issuing me patent # 5457342. >Those companies you mention have devices that are similar with respect to >cooling only if you care to follow the patents mentioned on my abstract. >However, NONE have developed the device I have NOR do they have a patent >on such a device. As such, I am the sole owner to pursue development of >this product or companies under infringement. >Gaerhardt G. Herbst Having too much time on my hands, I went and looked at your patent. The first part of the patent describes the exact CCD cooling method used for years by Santa Barbara Instruments (and others) for cooling CCDs. Your novel claim seems to be an IC cooler that is retrofitted to an existing, uncooled IC. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:26:52 1996 From: "Thomas C. J. Sefranek" Newsgroups: sci.astro.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,misc.invest.technical,misc.invest.stocks,misc.invest.funds,misc.invest.canada Subject: Re: Announsing: Technology Patent Available For Purchase Date: 5 Mar 1996 12:31:07 GMT Message-ID: <4hhc6u$606@news.iii.net> References: <1996Mar5.000656.1@ssrl01> Westinghouse Semiconductor DOES indeed have a patent on TE coolers. (I don't know if they even exist anymore...) I have a large (4"-4" plate) made by them and it has a patent number on it. It has a nice fan on the back for moving the heat and embedded thermocouples for reading the two sides of the junction. I have used these devices at MIT for over 20 years now, and I'm curious as to the patent system that is being used by this guy who obviously had NO interest in the origional development of the device. Clearly a case of opportunism. Ah well Bill Gates can do it, why not this turkey? Tom WA1RHP From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:26:53 1996 From: landisj@nad.com (Joe Landis - Systems & Network Mgr) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc,sci.astro.amateur Subject: Re: Announsing: Technology Patent Available For Purchase Message-ID: <1996Mar5.113206.460@nad.com> Date: 5 Mar 96 11:32:06 EST References: <4hgr8o$p96@sun.sirius.com> Distribution: world In article <4hgr8o$p96@sun.sirius.com>, paul@laughton.com (Paul Laughton) writ es: > gherbst@msn.com wrote: > >>Paul, > >>That's a very blatent claim you make. This patent went through with only >>one need for clarification from the PTO. Obviously know one else sought >>such a patent which is evidence by the PTO issuing me patent # 5457342. > >>Those companies you mention have devices that are similar with respect to >>cooling only if you care to follow the patents mentioned on my abstract. >>However, NONE have developed the device I have NOR do they have a patent >>on such a device. As such, I am the sole owner to pursue development of >>this product or companies under infringement. > >>Gaerhardt G. Herbst > > Having too much time on my hands, I went and looked at your patent. > The first part of the patent describes the exact CCD cooling method > used for years by Santa Barbara Instruments (and others) for cooling > CCDs. Your novel claim seems to be an IC cooler that is retrofitted to > an existing, uncooled IC. > > Are these the same Peltier(sp?) devices that you can pick up surplus from places like Marlin P. Jones and Edmund Scientific for like $12.95? Just curious, Joe - AA3GN -- Joe Landis - Systems and Network Manager - North American Drager - Telford, PA landisj@nad.com ..speaking only for myself, of course.. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:26:54 1996 From: n7ws@azstarnet.com (Wes Stewart) Newsgroups: sci.astro.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,misc.invest.technical,misc.invest.stocks,misc.invest.funds,misc.invest.canada Subject: Re: Announsing: Technology Patent Available For Purchase Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 22:06:25 LOCAL Message-ID: References: <4hdlvj$kvv@sun.sirius.com> In article <4hdlvj$kvv@sun.sirius.com> paul@laughton.com (Paul Laughton) write s: >From: paul@laughton.com (Paul Laughton) >Subject: Re: Announsing: Technology Patent Available For Purchase >Date: Mon, 04 Mar 1996 02:54:14 GMT >gherbst@msn.com wrote: [blah,blah... deleted] >I wonder how Mr Herbst slipped this one past the prior art >investigation? This technology has been around since the early 70's - >at least. For example, IBM and Amdahl main frames made extensive use >of it. Simple. He reinvented it first! From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:26:55 1996 Newsgroups: sci.astro.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,misc.invest.technical,misc.invest.stocks,misc.invest.funds,misc.invest.canada Subject: Re: Announsing: Technology Patent Available For Purchase Message-ID: From: gherbst@msn.com Date: Mon, 04 Mar 96 08:44:20 PDT References: Paul, That's a very blatent claim you make. This patent went through with only one need for clarification from the PTO. Obviously know one else sought such a patent which is evidence by the PTO issuing me patent # 5457342. Those companies you mention have devices that are similar with respect to cooling only if you care to follow the patents mentioned on my abstract. However, NONE have developed the device I have NOR do they have a patent on such a device. As such, I am the sole owner to pursue development of this product or companies under infringement. Gaerhardt G. Herbst From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:26:56 1996 From: gherbst@msn.com Newsgroups: sci.astro.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,misc.invest.technical,misc.invest.stocks,misc.invest.funds,misc.invest.canada Subject: Re: Announsing: Technology Patent Available For Purchase Date: Wed, 06 Mar 96 14:52:01 PDT Message-ID: References: <4hg97g$fef@cloner3.netcom.com> > I believe your final statement is too broad. You may "preclude others > from practicing your invention" is closer to the correct formulation. > Correct you Charles. Gerhardt G. Herbst From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:26:57 1996 From: gherbst@msn.com Newsgroups: sci.astro.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,misc.invest.technical,misc.invest.stocks,misc.invest.funds,misc.invest.canada Subject: Re: Announsing: Technology Patent Available For Purchase Date: Wed, 06 Mar 96 15:00:58 PDT Message-ID: References: <4hg97g$fef@cloner3.netcom.com> > Correct you Charles. > > Gerhardt G. Herbst > Whoops...I mean correct you are Charles... Gerhardt From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:26:59 1996 From: jackl@pinetree.microserve.com (WB3U) Newsgroups: sci.astro.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,misc.invest.technical,misc.invest.stocks,misc.invest.funds,misc.invest.canada Subject: Re: Announsing: Technology Patent Available For Purchase Date: Thu, 07 Mar 96 13:37:23 GMT Message-ID: <4hmp0u$nqk@crash.microserve.net> References: <1996Mar5.000656.1@ssrl01> <4hhc6u$606@news.iii.net> "Thomas C. J. Sefranek" wrote: >Clearly a case of opportunism. Ah well Bill Gates can do it, why not >this turkey? Bill Gates' success year after year is NOT the result of taking undue advantage of some helpless victim. Perhaps opportunism is just another catch-all phrase coined so the have-nots could better antagonize the haves? 73, Jack WB3U From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:00 1996 From: Hans Brakob <71111.260@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: ARLB013 Question pool committee Date: 2 Mar 1996 05:00:10 GMT Message-ID: <4h8kkq$gkv$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> References: <1996Mar1.114826.20483@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Gary KE4ZV said: >The ARRL needs to explain why it refused to accept >a seat on the NCVEC board. ARRL was not offered a seat.... a league employee, Bart Jahnke, was offered a seat on the NCVEC Board of Directors. The explanation is in their news release dated February 23 "...ARRL chose not to participate in the new corporation, in part because a review of the corporate documents had revealed fundamental flaws that expose participants (Bart Jahnke) to liability for the actions of others over whom they have no control." In other terms, management chose not to place an employee in a position of potential legal liability on the board of another corporation. -- 73, de Hans, K0HB --Support your local Amateur Radio clubs. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:01 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: ARLB013 Question pool committee Message-ID: <1996Mar2.164119.27481@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: <1996Mar1.114826.20483@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4h8kkq$gkv$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 16:41:19 GMT In article <4h8kkq$gkv$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> Hans Brakob <71111.2 60@CompuServe.COM> writes: >Gary KE4ZV said: >>The ARRL needs to explain why it refused to accept >>a seat on the NCVEC board. > >ARRL was not offered a seat.... a league employee, Bart >Jahnke, was offered a seat on the NCVEC Board of Directors. > >The explanation is in their news release dated February >23 "...ARRL chose not to participate in the new corporation, >in part because a review of the corporate documents had >revealed fundamental flaws that expose participants (Bart >Jahnke) to liability for the actions of others over whom >they have no control." In other terms, management chose >not to place an employee in a position of potential legal >liability on the board of another corporation. Ok, I'm not a corporate lawyer, but I retain one. He tells me that one of the primary benefits of incorporation is *limitation* of personal liability. Now you're telling me that Mr. Jahnke would be placed in greater legal jepardy by working under a corporate charter rather than working on an *unincorporated* QPC, where presumably his personal liability is unlimited. Strange. The NCVEC incorporation documents must be flawed indeed for that to be the case. I'm surprised that they passed muster with the Secretary of State of the State in which the corporation was chartered. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:02 1996 From: Hans Brakob <71111.260@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: ARLB013 Question pool committee Date: 1 Mar 1996 18:20:39 GMT Message-ID: <4h7f5n$b97$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> References: <313651C5.6379@iquest.com> Scotty Neustadter said: >....ARRL directed NCVEC not to communicate with its >employees nor to do anything that could be >construed that ARRL was participating in NCVEC. Don't confuse the NCVEC with the QPC (Question Pool Committee). They are separate and distinct entities. ARRL was a member and primary participant in the QPC from the beginning, long before NCVEC was incorporated. Because ARRL (and other VECs) chose not to join this new corporation, NCVEC has basically tried to kick them off the QPC as well. -- 73, de Hans, K0HB --Support your local Amateur Radio clubs. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:03 1996 From: Hans Brakob <71111.260@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: ARLB013 Question pool committee Date: 2 Mar 1996 16:32:42 GMT Message-ID: <4h9t7a$on5$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> References: <313792BA.BD5@iquest.com> Scotty Neustadter asked: >If NCVEC complies with this request, how can a member of the >ARRL staff be on the QPC committee? It's simple.... ARRL was a member of the QPC long before there was a corporation called NCVEC. The QPC is a creature of the FCC, not of NCVEC, and NCVEC cannot unilaterally upsurp the function of QPC and deny participation to any FCC accredited VEC. -- 73, de Hans, K0HB --Support your local Amateur Radio clubs. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:04 1996 From: Stephan M. Anderman Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: ARLB013 Question pool committee Date: Sat, 2 Mar 96 01:29:35 -0500 Message-ID: <5LKob83.sanderman@delphi.com> References: <1996Mar1.114826.20483@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4h8kkq$gkv$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> Hans, you make some excellent points in your numerous replies. As a Field Appointee, I don't always agree with the actions of Hq., but I back them solidly on this matter. A few of the points have not really been addressed here by Gary or Scotty, most notably, the legality of NCVEC Inc. First, Part 97 effectually makes NCVEC Inc (merely by its organization as a corporation) noncompliant. It was apparent (from early in this process when the issue of incorporation first came up) that ARRL had numerous reservations from both legal and liability standpoints. Hq. argued against the formation of such a corporation on those grounds. Jahnke effectively communicated those reservations to the QPC but was outgunned and outvoted. This action cause ARRL to be denied a seat on NCVEC Inc. These are the salient points of this issue, not whether the "ARRL gorilla" is 800 pounds or a slimmer and trimmer 500 pounds. And besides, if you guys had really wanted to bash the League, you would have referred to it as a "one ton 'guerilla'", not just a plain ol' 'go-rilla'! But say this, you guys have really done a swell job of giving Sid (who originated this thread) and all of us something worthwhile on which to chew! Thanks to all of you for discussing (attacking?!?) the issue rather than the people taking part. 73 to all... de Stephan Anderman, WA3RKB sanderman@delphi.com ARRL Hudson Division Assistant Director Eastern NY Bulletin Manager/PIC Executive Producer - "This Week in Amateur Radio" From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:05 1996 From: Scotty Neustadter Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: ARLB013 Question pool committee Date: Sun, 03 Mar 1996 00:07:38 -0600 Distribution: world Message-ID: <3139372A.6790@iquest.com> References: <1996Feb28.170758.12180@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4h4n57$fa8$1@mhadg.production.compuserve.com> To: Hans Brakob <71111.260@CompuServe.COM> Hans Brakob wrote: > > Gary, > ARRL did not "gather up their marbles and go home". > Their marbles were confiscated and they were removed from > the game because they declined to pledge allegiance to NCVEC. > The question pool committee cannot be a committee restricted > only to members of the NCVEC, Inc. There is no agreement > between the FCC and the NCVEC, Inc. The agreements are > between the FCC and the individual organizations that serve > as VECs. The QPC is a child of FCC, not NCVEC, so NCVEC > cannot impose "conditions" on participation. The FCC rules > bind all VECs to cooperate in maintaining a question pool > for each written examination element. A few VECs, even a > majority of VECs, cannot unilaterally create a corporation > as a mechanism for maintaining the pools and then exclude > other VECs who do not choose to participate in that corporation. > ARRL is not alone in choosing to not participate in the > corporation, but even if they were, it would make no > difference. > By the way, since the question pools are public, there is no > particular advantage to a publisher to be on the committee. You > and I could publish study guides just as easily as ARRL or W5YI. > With your brains and my looks, we would corner the market. > > -- > 73, de Hans, K0HB > > --Support your local Amateur Radio clubs.The ARRL was never asked to "pledge allegiance" to NCVEC, they were invited to place a member on the board, they declined and asked NCVEC, Inc not to talk to their employees nor take any action that might imply that the ARRL was party to NCVEC. Given this edict from the ARRL, NCVEC had no choice but to sever its tied with the ARRL employee who was on the QPC 73 Scotty From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:06 1996 From: Hans Brakob <71111.260@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: ARLB013 Question pool committee Date: 5 Mar 1996 14:33:25 GMT Message-ID: <4hhjbl$6f7$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> References: Jay Maynard asked: >"Why did ARRL refuse to join NCVEC, Inc.?"< Bart Jahnke, an ARRL employee, was offered a seat on the NCVEC Board of Directors. ARRL declined the offer because it made Bart potentially liable for the actions of others on the board, even though he had no control over their actions. Since he had served on the question pool committee for several years without that liability, there was no reason to impose it on him. ARRL therefore requested not to be included in NCVEC, but stated their intention to continue to cooperate with all the VEC's in the QPC and other matters of mutual concern. -- 73, de Hans, K0HB --Support your local Amateur Radio clubs. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:07 1996 From: jmaynard@admin5.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: ARLB013 Question pool committee Date: 4 Mar 1996 11:48:27 GMT Message-ID: References: <313651C5.6379@iquest.com> <4h7f5n$b97$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> Reply-To: jmaynard@admin5.hsc.uth.tmc.edu On 1 Mar 1996 18:20:39 GMT, Hans Brakob <71111.260@CompuServe.COM> wrote: >Because ARRL (and other VECs) chose not to join this new >corporation, NCVEC has basically tried to kick them off >the QPC as well. OK, Hans...let me ask this question again, since I haven't seen an answer yet: Why did ARRL refuse to join NCVEC, Inc.? I'd like to know this, regardless of the issues involved in the QPC - it does appear to me that NCVEC, Inc. cannot declare itself the QPC unilaterally. -- Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can http://k5zc.hsc.uth.tmc.edu | adequately be explained by stupidity. "Are we going to push it to the edge of the envelope?" -- Pinky "No, Pinky. We may, however, reach the sticky part." -- The Brain From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:08 1996 From: kd1hz@anomaly.ideamation.com (Michael P. Deignan) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: ARLB015 VEC conflict-of-interest rules Date: 4 Mar 1996 23:15:14 -0500 Message-ID: <4hgf4i$7rl@anomaly.ideamation.com> References: <$arlb015.1996@arrl.org> In article <$arlb015.1996@arrl.org>, wrote: >The FCC has formally eliminated conflict-of-interest provisions that >had applied to the administration of Amateur Radio exams. The action >conforms Part 97 of the rules to the provisions of the >Telecommunications Act of 1996, recently signed into law by President >Clinton. > >The Commission also eliminated a requirement that volunteer examiners >and volunteer examiner coordinators maintain records of out-of-pocket >expenses and annually certify those expenses to the FCC. Gee, I wonder what wave of goodies we can expect from W5YI as a result of this? Probably more items along the lines of "send me $5 to renew your amateur radio license". MD -- -- -- These opinions are mine, all mine, posted from my system at home, -- paid for with my own money, and if you don't like them... PHHHHHFT! -- From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:09 1996 From: jbaltz@news.cs.columbia.edu (Jerry B. Altzman) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: ARLB015 VEC conflict-of-interest rules Date: 5 Mar 1996 10:59:50 -0500 Message-ID: <4hhodm$r8j@tune.cs.columbia.edu> References: <$arlb015.1996@arrl.org> <4hgf4i$7rl@anomaly.ideamation.com> In article <4hgf4i$7rl@anomaly.ideamation.com>, Michael P. Deignan wrote: >In article <$arlb015.1996@arrl.org>, wrote: >>The FCC has formally eliminated conflict-of-interest provisions that >>had applied to the administration of Amateur Radio exams. The action >>conforms Part 97 of the rules to the provisions of the >>Telecommunications Act of 1996, recently signed into law by President >>Clinton. >>The Commission also eliminated a requirement that volunteer examiners >>and volunteer examiner coordinators maintain records of out-of-pocket >>expenses and annually certify those expenses to the FCC. >Gee, I wonder what wave of goodies we can expect from W5YI as a >result of this? I suppose that Bart Jahnke and the ARRL/VEC can move back into the main building from that shack without any lights or running water, too. >Probably more items along the lines of "send me $5 to renew your >amateur radio license". W5YI already puts out all kinds of study guides, etc. What *more* can they put out? Same with ARRL. I guess the practical impact is that all the creative legal fictions and accounting headaches created because of the old conflict-of-interest requirements can now vanish. >MD //jbaltz -- jerry b. altzman Entropy just isn't what it used to be +1 212 650 5617 jbaltz@cs.columbia.edu jbaltz@scisun.sci.ccny.cuny.edu KE3ML From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:10 1996 From: herb@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu (Nathan Ryan Gingras) Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment Subject: ATTN: JOHN ENGLISH Date: 5 Mar 1996 18:48:57 GMT Message-ID: <4hi2ap$8ul@uwm.edu> this is to jenglish@sparc1.castles.com: You asked me to email my phone # in reference to the TH-77, and I have emailed you many times. However, you did mention that you had problems with your internet server, so if you see this, either call me at: (414)-486-1516, or email me... Thanks, Nate, KB9LSX (herb@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu) (http://www.uwm.edu/~herb) From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:11 1996 From: gray@news.humberc.on.ca (Kelly Gray) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Brampton, Ontario Hamfest. Date: 5 Mar 1996 17:18:21 GMT Message-ID: <4hht0t$ebi@dns.humberc.on.ca> The Peel Amateur Radio Club presents HAM-EX 96 Amateur Radio - Computer - Electronics FLEAMARKET Saturday March 23, 1996 Talk-in repeater VE3PRC 146.880- Century Gardens Recreation Complex Doors open at 9:00am (vendors 7:00am) 340 Vodden St. E. Admission $5.00 (Vodden just east of Rutherford) Vendor tables $20.00 Brampton, Ontario (tables include 1 free admission) For more information, contact: Joe Valente VE3VDK or FAX 52 Cloverdale Drive (905) 793-0847 Bramalea, Ont between 9:00am and 4:00 PM. L6T 2T4 (905)793-0847 From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:12 1996 From: pcb@connix.com (pete brunelli) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Bristol, CT Hamfest Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 16:39:44 GMT Message-ID: <4hhqlr$19d@comet.connix.com> March 10, 1996 Insurance City Repeater Club Hamfest Dealers at 7am, Doors open at 9 am -- General Admission $4 Raffle for ICOM VHF Mobile rig Door prizes Talk in in 146.88 and 224.800 (pl 77.0) Bristol Eastern HS, King Street Tables $10 for first 3, $8 for 4th onward Tables on day of show, $15 if available call 860-620-0176 for more info or to leave message 73 and cul Pete Brunelli, N1QDQ From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:14 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc From: robert@kd3bj.ampr.org (Robert E. Garland) Subject: Re: CB conversion for HAM use? Message-ID: References: <707.6633T987T1350@nycmetro.com> Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 01:14:41 GMT midgard@nycmetro.com (SARUMAN) writes: >Howdy folks, I was just going thru some of my stuff and found my old Walkie T 's >Both are 3 channel 3 watt units. one Lafayette one Radio Shack. Is it possabl e >to get Crystals for Frequencies other thatn the 40 CB Channels for use with >these units? Any other Mod's needed? Thanx for the help folks. >The Crystals in these are socketed if that matters. I've been out of this for >Years. > > Midgard Graphics > 3D Animation and Special FX for the hobbyist videographer > Email: midgard@nycmetro.com >-- > Drop into #amigacafe on IRC's undernet for a chat sometime >-- > > A man of many hobby's master of none. For what it is worth, you can legally convert the 49 MHz units to 50 MHz ham band units. I can't say how useful they would be since I don't work 50 MHz myself. I suspect that you will have to retune as well as recrystal, but if you have some technical skill, that should not be a problem. -- Robert Garland NX3S @ N3ACL.PA.USA.NOAM Hilltown Township Bucks County robert@kd3bj.ampr.org Pennsylvania USA Grid FN20ii Hams do it bouncing off the "F" layer From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:14 1996 From: VUBS79A@prodigy.com (Drew Durigan) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Code = Outdated = YE OLDE FAHRTZ Date: 1 Mar 1996 18:20:23 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <4h7f57$1fso@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> Kind of says it all, doesn't it? From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:15 1996 From: adell@planet.net ( Steve - KF2TI) Landing, NJ Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Code = Outdated = YE OLDE FAHRTZ Date: 2 Mar 1996 20:51:53 GMT Message-ID: <4hacd9$6v7@jupiter.planet.net> References: <4h7f57$1fso@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> > VUBS79A@prodigy.com (Drew Durigan) writes: > Kind of says it all, doesn't it? > > > > >>>> ZZZZzzzzzZZZZzzzzZZZZZZZZ huh????? i thought i heard a squeaky mousey sound must of been my imagination ZZZZZzzzzzZZZZzzzzzZZZZZ CW if it keeps Drew off the air, it can't be all that bad From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:17 1996 From: pklein@news.seattleu.edu (Peter A. Klein) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Code = Outdated = YE OLDE FAHRTZ Date: 3 Mar 1996 23:51:09 -0800 Message-ID: <4he7dd$939@handel.seattleu.edu> References: <4h7f57$1fso@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <1996Mar3.104411.115251@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> In article <1996Mar3.104411.115251@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, Bill wrote: >In response to VUBS79A@PRODIGY.COM -- > >To take your comment to its logical conclusion, we might say that ham >radio itself is outdated. Remember that the main reason for the >existence of amateur radio is to provide emergency communication as a >public service. How do we measure up today against new technology that >includes sat-com, gps, cellular (voice) and cellular (data), all of which >can be used by the untrained during the same type of "emergency" >situations that we might face as amateurs providing needed How about the fact that time and time again, in large-scale emergency situations, cellular systems are overloaded by the public and/or fail because of the emergency itself? Or that the sheriff's repeater often doesn't quite reach into the remote mountain valley where a hiker incoveniently fell off the trail. Or that we can route health and welfare traffic off the primary communications channels, leaving them free for the official stuff? We're still worth a lot. And we're in an era of government downsizing, where needed personnel often get laid off due to budget cuts or beancounter's theoretical priorities. Or enough equipment isn't maintained for a large-scale emergency. Then the emergency hits, and the hams are needed to fill in. 73, Peter - KD7MW --- -- Peter A. Klein (pklein@seattleu.edu) : -----==3== --- --- Information Services, 5569 : | | | | | | | | Seattle University : @| @| @| @| @| @| @| @| From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:18 1996 From: kd1hz@anomaly.ideamation.com (Michael P. Deignan) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Code = Outdated = YE OLDE FAHRTZ Date: 6 Mar 1996 07:36:29 -0500 Message-ID: <4hk0sd$9lf@anomaly.ideamation.com> References: <4h7f57$1fso@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <1996Mar3.104411.115251@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> <4he7dd$939@handel.seattleu.edu> In article <4he7dd$939@handel.seattleu.edu>, Peter A. Klein wrote: >How about the fact that time and time again, in large-scale emergency >situations, cellular systems are overloaded by the public and/or fail >because of the emergency itself? Any public safety organization worth its salt is no longer relying on cellular for emergency communications and will have many backup plans. >Or that the sheriff's repeater often >doesn't quite reach into the remote mountain valley where a hiker >incoveniently fell off the trail. These scenarios are the exception rather than the norm. Should we waste Mhz of valuable spectrum worth billions for a handful of examples? No, we shouldn't. Sell the spectrum. MD -- -- -- These opinions are mine, all mine, posted from my system at home, -- paid for with my own money, and if you don't like them... PHHHHHFT! -- From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:19 1996 From: Gene Shablygin Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Code = Outdated = YE OLDE FAHRTZ Date: Tue, 05 Mar 96 22:16:09 PDT Message-ID: References: <4h7f57$1fso@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <1996Mar3.104411.115251@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> <4he7dd$939@handel.seattleu.edu> Why do we need to defend our hobby, using arguments like "public services", etc. YES, Ham Radio can be useful in emergency, but it is NOT about emergencies! Why golfers do not try to defend their game, arguing that the golf ball can be used as an arm (see "Coneheads"). They play golf because they love it! The same about any other hobby. You are lucky, if you can find secondary use of the hobby, but even if you can't... so what?! I think that it is nothing wrong about preserving Whimbledon corts from amateurs, who started to play tennis two weeks ago. And if you DO NOT WANT to learn, how to serve, do not complain, if you will never join the Grand Slam tournament. The same with code. YES, I do not see any SERIOUS practical use of it. But for us it is a part of the hobby, and without code a ham is like a tennis player without serice. Do we need any other arguments? I personally enjoy working CW. Unlike many of my friends, the code for me was a DIFFICULT task, and it takes me several years to practice it, until I became able to work seriously. But I am proud, that in one day, I passed all my US exams, from novice to extra, including code, of course (my case is unusual, comparing to others, because I had Russian Extra class license for a long time... but in Russia it was possible, having good friends, get a license without any exams). So let's use code on HF, as a part of the rules of the game! 73 Gene AB5GY / RA3AA From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:20 1996 Newsgroups: sci.astro.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,misc.invest.technical,misc.invest.stocks,misc.invest.funds,misc.invest.canada From: jdc@cci.com (James D. Cronin) Subject: Cold fusion superconducting antennas (was: Announsing...) Message-ID: References: <4hfqtn$6kb@murrow.corp.sgi.com> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 17:27:42 GMT In article , Wes Stewart wrote: >... >"Announsing", "blatent" and "know one else" indeed. I don't know what his >device is, because searching for the number didn't work for me. Sounds like a >Peltier device, but I guess it could be cold fusion. > >73, Wes -- N7WS Isn't it obvious: Homebrew superconducting cold fusion ham radio astronomy antenna equipment with investment potential for insider stock trader Canadians. (Apoligies in advance to our friends in VE land...) Ten points to the first person who cross-posts all this stuff to the alt.sex hierarchy. April 1 is closer than you think. 73...Jim N2VNO From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:21 1996 From: brian@nothing.ucsd.edu (Brian Kantor) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Commercial Repeaters {Q} Date: 5 Mar 1996 16:11:22 GMT Message-ID: <4hhp3a$kgv@news1.ucsd.edu> References: <9@pplace.win.net> <4hb709$456@reader2.ix.netcom.com> padrino@ix.netcom.com(David Fields ) writes: >Cona person just go to the Ham Radio Supply Store and buy a >commercially manufactured repeater? Yes, although I don't personally think very highly of most of the ham-grade repeaters available. The real problem is that it takes more work and technical skill to make a repeater work well than it does to build it. Someone who doesn't have the whatever to construct the repeater probably isn't going to have a lot of luck making it work real well. I'd strongly suggest you get some techie types interested in your project so they can give you a hand. - Brian From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:22 1996 Newsgroups: rec.audio.tubes,rec.radio.amateur.misc From: kludge@netcom.com (Scott Dorsey) Subject: Compactron Sockets Needed Message-ID: Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 16:45:42 GMT I need some 12-pin sockets for compactrons and don't seem to find them anywhere. One local supplier has some old PC mount units, but I am looking for the chassis-mount ones that will drop into 1" diameter holes, if at all possible. I gather these aren't in production any longer, but does anyone have a handful of them in a basement somewhere or know some supplier with old stock around? --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:23 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: Convincing Arguments for CW Tests in 1996 Message-ID: <1996Mar2.193600.27974@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: <4gm6sl$1eas@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <4h10si$29e@morgoth.sfu.ca> <4h8kv7$3gt@morgoth.sfu.ca> Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 19:36:00 GMT In article <4h8kv7$3gt@morgoth.sfu.ca> paul1@news.sfu.ca (Paul Erickson) write s: >willmore@whelk.cig.mot.com (David A Willmore) writes: >>paul1@news.sfu.ca (Paul Erickson) writes: >>'CW is the most basic form of communication possible...' > >>That's one for the quote file. Given a lot of the 'conversation' that goes >>on in the HF bands, I'd have to agree that 'basic' defines it quite well. >>Knowlege of the alphabet is necessary to write, to spell, to sort, to read, >>etc. Could you explain, again, how knowlege of other digital modes depends >>on CW? I can see from a theoretical point how understanding CW as a >>modulation scheme is useful to understand later modes, but that in no way >>implies a need to be proficient in its practice. > > >This seems to miss the distinction between understanding a language and >understanding the means by which it is transmitted. It is entirely possible >to use a technology that one does not completely understand. It is however, >impossible to communicate with a language one does not understand. CW is >a language. Morse is *not* a language. It is an encoding of *alphabet*, no different in principle than ASCII. Like any alphabetic encoding, it can be used to *spell* words in some language, but it is not itself a language. It is *you* who are confusing transmission means with language. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:24 1996 From: Jim Cummings Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Convincing Arguments for CW Tests in 1996 Date: 4 Mar 1996 14:32:19 GMT Message-ID: <4heutj$plj@crc-news.doc.ca> References: <4gsf2u$rth@crc-news.doc.ca> <1996feb27.154554.25536@schbbs.mot.com> <4h1sbe$1vu6@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <4h5bbn$3d4@mgate.arrl.org> <4h7hds$bii@crc-news.doc.ca> <4h8p89$9hq@news.cis.okstate.edu> MIKEKC5GJN@AOL.COM wrote: >There is nothing stopping people from being a ham w/o learning code they've >got everything above 30 Mhz. Why all the whinning? > > Mike KC5GJN To the contrary, the whining is engendered by all those wish to retain Morse c ode for operation on HF because that is the only device that they have left because so far no substantive arguements have been presented which would support their opinions. 73 and live better digitally Jim, VE3XJ From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:25 1996 From: "john p. sumner" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Convincing Arguments for CW Tests in 1996 Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 10:45:21 -0500 Message-ID: References: <4gsf2u$rth@crc-news.doc.ca> <1996feb27.154554.25536@schbbs.mot.com> <4h1sbe$1vu6@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <4h5bbn$3d4@mgate.arrl.org> <4h7hds$bii@crc-news.doc.ca> <4h8p89$9hq@news.cis.okstate.edu> <4heutj$plj@crc-news.doc.ca> <4hf2kt$v65@uwm.edu> I wish they would do away with morse because if people want to be hams why should there be a test if you re never going to use it again John P. Sumner afn29443@afn.org From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:26 1996 From: leigh@rain.org (Leigh) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Convincing Arguments for CW Tests in 1996 Date: 5 Mar 1996 00:53:36 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <4hg3ag$kk7@news.rain.org> References: <4gm6sl$1eas@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <4h10si$29e@morgoth.sfu.ca> <4h8n5d$9hq@news.cis.okstate.edu> <4h8qer$13fc@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> Drew Durigan (VUBS79A@prodigy.com) wrote: : >CW is a dying art I would hate to see it die. : WHY?? You just said it yourself...it's a "dying art"...so, let's put it : out of it's misery and let it die! : The patient is terminal; call Dr. Kevorkian For something that's allegedly dying, CW still works very well! During the last ARRL VHF/UHF contest, I used a tiny 3 watt Icom 402 which puts out a mere 3 watts of SSB and CW on 432 MHz. There were several stations that could not copy me on SSB, but could copy my CW. Yes, there are some digital modes that are more effecient than CW, BUT using them on a typical voice frequency like 432.100 would not be very cool. 73. --Leigh/KM6JE. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:27 1996 From: wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Convincing Arguments for CW Tests in 1996 Date: 5 Mar 1996 02:52:41 GMT Message-ID: <4hga9p$nn9@cc.iu.net> References: <4gsf2u$rth@crc-news.doc.ca> <1996feb27.154554.25536@schbbs.mot.com> <4h1sbe$1vu6@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <4h5bbn$3d4@mgate.arrl.org> <4h7hds$bii@crc-news.doc.ca> <4h8p89$9hq@news.cis.okstate.edu> <4heutj$plj@crc-news.doc.ca> <4hf2kt$v65@uwm.edu> Reply-To: wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) In , "john p. sumner" writes: >I wish they would do away with morse because if people want to be hams >why should there be a test if you re never going to use it again >John P. Sumner >afn29443@afn.org oh, i dunno if they should do away with Morse...but there is a question about if we need 3 different speed exams. truly proficient operators breeze past 20. they would do that anyway. so maybe 5 is all that's required. other times people say we need a test that's skill based rather than knowledge based for the "pinky" crowd as opposed to the "brain" crowd. since all exams h ave a written element, i tend to think this argument is flawed. Bill Newkirk WB9IVR The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group Melbourne, FL duty now for the future of amateur radio Lombardi's 1st Law of Business: Companies succeed in spite of their best effort. If they succeed at all. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:28 1996 From: adell@planet.net ( Steve - KF2TI) Landing, NJ Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Convincing Arguments for CW Tests in 1996 Date: 4 Mar 1996 21:14:35 GMT Message-ID: <4hfmfr$koj@jupiter.planet.net> References: <4heutj$plj@crc-news.doc.ca> > Jim Cummings writes: > MIKEKC5GJN@AOL.COM wrote: > > >There is nothing stopping people from being a ham w/o learning code they'v e > >got everything above 30 Mhz. Why all the whinning? > > > > Mike KC5GJN > > > To the contrary, the whining is engendered by all those wish to retain Mors e code for > operation on HF because that is the only device that they have left because so far no > substantive arguements have been presented which would support their opinio ns. > > 73 and live better digitally > Jim, VE3XJ > You need to learn code because international law sez you do!!! Until that cha nges, this is rapidly becoming a very boring topic. When the date reads 1999 and the ITU meets again, lets discuss this somemore. Until then lets talk about pinning coaxial cables and ripping down towers...you know .. destructive things that have been advocated by some here steve no code or know code....who really gives a hoover (damn) From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:29 1996 From: myers@West.Sun.COM (Dana Myers) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Convincing Arguments for CW Tests in 1996 Date: 6 Mar 1996 04:39:36 GMT Message-ID: <4hj4u8$752@abyss.West.Sun.COM> References: <4h10si$29e@morgoth.sfu.ca> <4haptg$c2d@nntp1.best.com> In article <4haptg$c2d@nntp1.best.com>, Mike James wrote: >> >Evidence of personal commitment and self-discipline are, IMHO, more than >adequate justification of using CW proficiency as a prerequisite for the >privilage of using the HF bands. How do the CW exam elements test for personal commitment and self-discipline and more than the written exams? Please note the Followup-Tp: line. -- * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are * * (310) 348-6043 | mine and do not necessarily * * Dana.Myers@West.Sun.Com | reflect those of my employer * From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:31 1996 From: jwkelley@e4e.oac.uci.edu (James W. KELLEY) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Convincing Arguments for CW Tests in 1996 Date: 5 Mar 1996 18:43:10 GMT Message-ID: <4hi1vu$blg@news.service.uci.edu> References: <4gm6sl$1eas@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <4h8o80$4t2@morgoth.sfu.ca> <4heuii$plj@crc-news.doc.ca> <4hf37e$5bf@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> In article <4hf37e$5bf@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, Christopher K Greenhalgh wrote: >Wrong! Here it is in a nutshell...The passing of the CW test is currently >required for use of the HF amateur allocated frequencies...period! > >Those of you who dont agree, than write the ARRL, FCC, your congressman, ect. >It does no good to continue your drivel here. > >Take care. >-- >Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT Thank you Mr. moderator. Presumably only your "drivel" is appropriate for posting on .policy? The debate will continue, no matter how much you tire of it, until change is effected. It would be nice if these efforts could take a contructive turn though. One confounding problem is the fact that people here prefer to disagree with others, rather than seek those issues upon which we agree. (Makes for more sensational posts, I think.) If we could agree, for example, that the current testing methods are less than optimum, and could achieve consensus on the basic prerequisites for a responsible/knowlegable amateur operator, a testing scheme could be devised to insure the minimum qualifications of an applicant. But such a test should test ONLY for requisite skills and knowledge. (Lets face it, it is unrealistic to expect a newbie to demonstrate the expertise of a seasoned operator prior his being granted a license.) A constructive discussion can only be conducted in an atmosphere abscent of hostility, prejudice, and resentment. Unfortunately there exists an ample amount of all the above. Morse testing IS an appropriate topic for discussion on this group. Agreed, it is not the only place for it to take place, but it is a good place for it. It's safe to assume that some of this is noticed by ARRL directors, and perhaps even certain FCC officials. Another tack is of course direct correspondence with those individuals. I suspect that very few congressmen give a damn one way or the other about the problems of amateur radio however. 73 Jim, KE6JPO From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:32 1996 From: paul1@news.sfu.ca (Paul Erickson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Convincing Arguments for CW Tests in 1996 Date: 2 Mar 1996 05:05:43 GMT Message-ID: <4h8kv7$3gt@morgoth.sfu.ca> References: <4gm6sl$1eas@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <4h10si$29e@morgoth.sfu.ca> willmore@whelk.cig.mot.com (David A Willmore) writes: >paul1@news.sfu.ca (Paul Erickson) writes: >>Interesting, does this mean that because people can talk without knowing >>how to read and we therefore do not need to teach the alpahbet? CW is the >>most basic form of communication possible, and to eliminate it is to >>promote a fundamental illiteracy. The digital modes should be enjoyed >>and developed, but someone who is not willing to develope even a basic >>facility for the most basic mode available doesn't belong there. >'CW is the most basic form of communication possible...' >That's one for the quote file. Given a lot of the 'conversation' that goes >on in the HF bands, I'd have to agree that 'basic' defines it quite well. >Knowlege of the alphabet is necessary to write, to spell, to sort, to read, >etc. Could you explain, again, how knowlege of other digital modes depends >on CW? I can see from a theoretical point how understanding CW as a >modulation scheme is useful to understand later modes, but that in no way >implies a need to be proficient in its practice. This seems to miss the distinction between understanding a language and understanding the means by which it is transmitted. It is entirely possible to use a technology that one does not completely understand. It is however, impossible to communicate with a language one does not understand. CW is a language. One of the two modes we have which are understandable by humans without the need for interveaning technologies. I never want to see the day when someone in a crisis who only has cw and the supporting basic technology available finds themselves in a position where those who are dominating the spectrum are unable and unwilling to understand them. >BTW, how's your semiconductor physics? How are your boolean logic skills? >Maybe you should practice them a bit more before you post--they are the >most basic form of modern computing. People who don't understand them >don't belong here... nonsequitur... see above. cheers, Paul VE7CQK email: paul1@wizard.ucs.sfu.ca From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:33 1996 From: Joe Fitter BV/N0IAT Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: DX REFLECTOR HELP Date: 6 Mar 1996 12:01:17 GMT Message-ID: <4hjuqd$cmt@tilde.csc.ti.com> Hi, I subscribed to the dx reflector, received 2 days of email and now nothing is being delivered. How do I subscribe again (deleted that old message....)? Or anyone know a contact in charge of the email DX reflector? thanks, Joe ---------------------------------------------------------- Amateur Radio: BV/N0IAT Taipei TAIWAN Republic of China ex. 7J1AOF (Japan) YU3/N0IAT (Slovenia) KA0ZDH (Novice) Licensed Radio Amateur since 1986. Comments are mine only. ---------------------------------------------------------- From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:34 1996 From: Jim O'Connell Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: DX REFLECTOR HELP Date: Wed, 06 Mar 1996 11:58:08 -0800 Message-ID: <313DEE50.E44@ix.netcom.com> References: <4hjuqd$cmt@tilde.csc.ti.com> To: Joe Fitter BV/N0IAT Joe Fitter BV/N0IAT wrote: > > Hi, > I subscribed to the dx reflector, received 2 days of email > and now nothing is being delivered. How do I subscribe > again (deleted that old message....)? Or anyone know a > contact in charge of the email DX reflector? > > thanks, Joe > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Amateur Radio: BV/N0IAT Taipei TAIWAN Republic of China > > ex. 7J1AOF (Japan) YU3/N0IAT (Slovenia) KA0ZDH (Novice) > Licensed Radio Amateur since 1986. Comments are mine only. > ---------------------------------------------------------- Joe: Send a message to dx-REQUEST@ve7tcp.ampr.org with the word subscribe in the text box. The hard drive crashed and many addresses were lost. 73, Jim W9WU From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:35 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: wb6w@netcom.com (Glenn Thomas) Subject: Re: FCC rules for cordless phones Message-ID: References: <4hlk96$8gd@linet06.li.net> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 05:48:11 GMT The 49Mhz and 900MHz cordless phones operate under part 15 of the FCC rules, CB and Amateur radio each have their own parts which are seperate from part 15 and from each other. -- ********************************************************************* * "Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do." * * * * wb6w@netcom.com - Glenn Thomas * ********************************************************************* From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:36 1996 From: 758-5382@mcimail.com (Mike) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: HAMFEST IN SHAKOPEE MINNESOTA - sma96.txt [1/1] Date: 1 Mar 1996 19:53:56 GMT Message-ID: <4h7kkk$63h@blackice.winternet.com> The SouthWest Metro Amateur Radio Transmitting Society is pleased to present S MARTSFEST 96 to be held Saturday,April 27 at Canterbury Downs in beautiful Shakopee Minneso ta. Smartsfest 96, Minnesotas most affordable Hamfest features low admission price s,door prizes, numerous club activities, SMARTS CHALLENGE, and absoutely FREE PARKING. One ticket price covers EVERYTHING! Tickets this year are $3 in advance and $5 at the door. Kids under 14 are free .Advance tickets availible at all the useual places ,through select club funct ions or by calling mike N0zxg at 445-0460 Doors open at 8 am and the fest runs to 2 pm For table availibility and prices, contact Tim WD0ENG at 474-9232 or Dave N0TLA at 445-8071 Talk-in or further information is aslo available on the Carver repeater at 147.165 mhz.+ From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:38 1996 From: ANON Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Have you read ARRL Bulletin #9 yet? A blockbuster!! Date: 3 Mar 1996 15:51:40 GMT Message-ID: <4hcf6c$o8k@cloner4.netcom.com> References: <4gisub$j4f@nyx.cs.du.edu> <4givjk$8cv@news.usit.net> <4hccqt$adv@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> >>Siegfried Rambaum (siram@light.lightlink.com) wrote: >>: What the heck is the problem? Any ham in his senses would not apply for an antenna mast if not 100% assured (best in written) th= at this would pose no problem. Ever heard that a FLAGPOLE had been objected? W hy not make that flagpole sturdy and high, and if some antenna(s) fits under the if flag, well .... put the flag up first, and add the antenna later. There >>: is no restriction whatsoever on flagpoles :)) Many many Homeowner Association CC&R's in California prohibit FLAGPOLES -- I know -- I live in a tract with such a CC&R. Most new homes for sale have CC&R's as an integral part of the sale of a home. That is if you don't sign papers consenting to abide by the CC&R's-- you can't buy the home. Even if you managed to not sign the CC&R's and buy the home -- a lawyer advises that you are still bound by them -- property is encumbered by same. Needless to say HOA's also prohibit antennas of any kind. Here HOA's are battling with homeowners now over the new small satellite dishes, despite the fact a new California law makes accomodation for same. As usual, hams resort to stealth antennas. Good luck Dxing with an "invisible antenna" at 15 feet! But I'm sure some have accomplished same. 73 AC6V From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:39 1996 From: "C. Wheeler" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Headset while driving (was 'cell driving' illegal) Date: 4 Mar 1996 07:44:51 GMT Message-ID: <4he71j$luq@ccnet2.ccnet.com> References: <4h4fuc$bd0@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <1996Feb29.181656.17837@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) wrote: >In article <4h4fuc$bd0@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> cgreenha@magnus.acs.o hio-state.edu (Christopher K Greenhalgh) writes: >>In article , >>David Orbell wrote: >> >>>I live in Ontario. Recently heard of someone getting a ticket for >>>operating their cell phone while driving. I didn't realize their was a law >>>against this. [snip] >In Georgia, covering an ear with a speaker or headset while driving >is illegal, regardless of whether that speaker is in a cellular phone >handset, a HT, or the headset for a HT, or for a Walkman. The law isn't >heavily enforced, but amateurs here have been stopped and cited for >wearing boom mike headsets (single ear) while driving. This obviously >doesn't affect operation of normal mobile radios where the speaker is >not held to the ear, nor does it affect hands free cellular phones. > >As I understand the history of the law, it was introduced at the time >when the Walkman was new, and was intended primarily to prevent people >from driving around wearing Walkman headsets and thus not able to hear >warning sounds. [snip] For your GeeWizz reading pleasure... California has an earphone law as well..older than the "walkman". California drivers ARE permitted to cover one ear with a plug or headset, but not both ears. There are a number of exceptions specific to construction, emergency and certain commercial vehicles and driving conditions. Headset wearing hams (and walkman users) in California should also note that the prohibition on covering both ears applies to bicyclists as well as motorists. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:41 1996 From: ham@w3eax.umd.edu (Scott Rosenfeld NF3I) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Help! Hiking in North-Central Maine! Date: 6 Mar 1996 01:05:26 GMT Message-ID: <4hiocm$58s@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> My wife will be doing here Geology Field study near Mt. Katahdin in north-central Maine in June. She plans to take an HT, solar panel, and gel cell. I'm also trying to find her a portable, collapsible Yagi (anyone have one to sell?). The basic question is: ARE THERE ANY REPEATERS TO HIT? She'll be going from Lake Chesuncook to Quebec City to Nova Scotia. Obviously, Quebec City & Nova Scotia are repeaterful. However, she'll be spending a fair amount of time (several weeks) at the Lake or thereabouts, and would like to know that while hiking, she's not "alone," radio-wise. Anyone have any experience or know the local terrain? What's the summer wx like up there? Any and all help is greatly appreciated. de NF3I & N3MXZ -- Scott Rosenfeld NF3I Burtonsville, MD FM19 QRV 40-10/6/2/440 *** VHF @ <25w, HF @ <5w *** Who says Morse Code is dead? *** Stuck at 138 cfd with dipoles - QRP-L, QRP ARCI, DXCC/WAS/WAC 72/73 de Suburban DC 301-549-1022 h / 301-982-1015 w dit dit From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:42 1996 From: bill.sorsby@dlep1.itg.ti.com (Bill Sorsby) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: HELP! with TS-520S cw receive Date: 1 Mar 1996 19:26:01 GMT Message-ID: <4h7j09$bj7@mksrv1.dseg.ti.com> References: <4h5046$pcp@crash.microserve.net> In article <4h5046$pcp@crash.microserve.net>, jlynn@pennet.net says... >... When receiving in the CW mode, I can hear a station, and if I >tune up the band, I hear the same station 2 KHz up frequency, from >center to center. Jeff, it sounds to me like your rig has both the upper and lower sideband carrier oscillators turned on simultaneously. That's the only thing that comes to mind which could cause the sort of problem you've described. I don't have any Kenwood gear so I can't provide any hardware troubleshooting tips. Hpoefully someone else will step forward with more details. Good luck. Regards, Bill Sorsby, N5BU From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:42 1996 From: Mike - KB9LPJ Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Help!! Need Manual for TS-520 Date: 5 Mar 1996 13:31:33 GMT Message-ID: <4hhfnl$frj@bucky.win.bright.net> TNX for reading this. I would like to know if anyone has a manual for a Kenwood TS-520 that they would be willing to part with. Or if they could steer me in the right direction so I could get myself one. Many TNX 73's >> Mike - KB9LPJ From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:43 1996 From: jcl5@acpub.duke.edu (James C. H. Lee) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: HELP: AM & FM signals Date: 5 Mar 1996 04:23:40 GMT Message-ID: <4hgfkc$7d6@news.duke.edu> I'm trying to receive an out-of-state but strong signal AM radio station (WSM-AM in TN to be exact) but have a hard time getting it. I can do OK from my car (with a fair amount of fuzz but at least recognizable, especially at night), but can hardly get it in the house. I currently have a loop antenna that came with the stereo attached for AM signals and a fancy-looking FM antenna that I bought (which helps improve FM signals) for the FM. Please, in your E-MAIL, tell me how to improve my reception in detail but not too technical. Also, how would I do the same for distant FM stations? Thanx to all who helps in advance! From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:44 1996 From: jcl5@acpub.duke.edu (James C. H. Lee) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.broadcasting Subject: HELP: AM & FM signals Date: 6 Mar 1996 01:27:29 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <4hipm1$ckd@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> A question for all you radio experts out there. I am trying to receive an out-of-state but fairly strong AM signal (WSM-AM in Nashville to be exact) and do okay at night (though fuzzy) if I'm driving but have hard time getting it in the house. My stereo currently has a loop antenna that came from with it (which I attached for AM) and a FM stereo antenna that I brought which helps with FM reception. I want to know how can I improve my AM reception 24 hours (other than attaching an antenna onto my roof). How would I do the same for distant FM signals? Please in your e-mail, be detailed but not too technical. Thanx to all who help in advance! From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:45 1996 From: chau chi shing Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Icom 2700H mobile radio Date: 1 Mar 1996 15:18:10 GMT Message-ID: <4h74fi$7u4@bull.hkstar.net> To: all My name is Pak from Hong Kong and my callsign is VR2YIK Anyone who have any idea to upgrade or can made a change to modify the icom 2700H to expand more feature. Thanks you From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:46 1996 From: herb@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu (Nathan Ryan Gingras) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Icom W21AT Wide RX problem.. Date: 5 Mar 1996 05:08:40 GMT Message-ID: <4hgi8o$h7t@uwm.edu> I have done the keypad mod for extended RX, but it doesn't recieve much. I read on an FTP site that this it the way to do it. However, at a local repair shop, I was able to view a mod book for Icom radios. It cites the addition of D-23 (MA132WK) as the RF expansion mod. Has anyone tried this? Is it possible that Icom has stopped including this in the W21AT radios? I know the keypad mod works on the earlier models..... Perhaps they no longer include this diode. In the book, it said to do the keypad mod only AFTER inserting the diode/ So, maybe mine TUNES out of band, but requires a diode to actually RECIEVE out of band.. Any experience with this? Nate, KB9LSX Thanks alot! From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:47 1996 From: bhinkle@nc5.infi.net (Barry Hinkle) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Icom W21AT Wide RX problem.. Date: 5 Mar 1996 16:16:19 GMT Message-ID: <4hhpcj$8f@nw003.infi.net> References: <4hgi8o$h7t@uwm.edu> In article <4hgi8o$h7t@uwm.edu>, herb@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu says... > >I have done the keypad mod for extended RX, but it doesn't recieve much. >I read on an FTP site that this it the way to do it. However, at a local >repair shop, I was able to view a mod book for Icom radios. It cites the >addition of D-23 (MA132WK) as the RF expansion mod. Has anyone tried >this? Is it possible that Icom has stopped including this in the W21AT >radios? I know the keypad mod works on the earlier models..... Perhaps >they no longer include this diode. In the book, it said to do the keypad >mod only AFTER inserting the diode/ So, maybe mine TUNES out of band, but >requires a diode to actually RECIEVE out of band.. Any experience with this? > > >Nate, KB9LSX > >Thanks alot! > Nate, The diode is for extended tx. If you are trying to receive 800 Mhz forget it. Its blocked in the cpu. 73 Barry KT4DQ From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:48 1996 From: stan@mutadv.com (Stan Huntting) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: KaWin 6.33 supports QRZ! cdrom Date: 2 Mar 1996 15:39:50 GMT Message-ID: <4h9q46$lbe@news-2.csn.net> KaWin Version 6.33 includes full support for the QRZ! Call Sign Database on CDROM. KaWin offers the only native MS Windows support for Kantronics TNCs in Host Mode. Download KaWin today from the KaWin Home Page below. -- Stan Huntting, KF0IA email: stan@mutadv.com fax: 303 444 2314 KaWin home page: http://www.mutadv.com/kawin/ KaWin FTP site: ftp.csn.net in the directory /kawin postal address: 4655 Pleasant Ridge Rd., Boulder, CO 80301-1731, USA From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:49 1996 From: kd1hz@anomaly.ideamation.com (Michael P. Deignan) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: KING TV (Seattle) attacks ham Date: 5 Mar 1996 10:21:30 -0500 Message-ID: <4hhm5q$8eo@anomaly.ideamation.com> References: <4hcps2$5t8@tune.cs.columbia.edu> In article <4hcps2$5t8@tune.cs.columbia.edu>, Jerry B. Altzman wrote: >>Following two message are provided for possible followup by those of us >>who might be willing to let KING TV know they are doing sloppy and unfair >>journalism. KING TV News (in Seattle) fax number is 206-448-4525. > >Maybe Drew knows someone who can put a pin through their coax... I'd like to be watching when Drew tries to put a pin through the transmission line at a television station. Entertainment for the whole family! MD -- -- -- These opinions are mine, all mine, posted from my system at home, -- paid for with my own money, and if you don't like them... PHHHHHFT! -- From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:50 1996 From: cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Christopher K Greenhalgh) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: KING TV (Seattle) attacks ham Date: 5 Mar 1996 19:29:58 GMT Message-ID: <4hi4nm$kcb@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <4hcps2$5t8@tune.cs.columbia.edu> <4hhm5q$8eo@anomaly.ideamation.com> In article <4hhm5q$8eo@anomaly.ideamation.com>, Michael P. Deignan wrote: >In article <4hcps2$5t8@tune.cs.columbia.edu>, > Jerry B. Altzman wrote: > >>>Following two message are provided for possible followup by those of us >>>who might be willing to let KING TV know they are doing sloppy and unfair >>>journalism. KING TV News (in Seattle) fax number is 206-448-4525. >> >>Maybe Drew knows someone who can put a pin through their coax... > >I'd like to be watching when Drew tries to put a pin through the >transmission line at a television station. Entertainment for the >whole family! > >MD Yes Mike...Drew would instantly be zapped by mega-wattage. Ya know, someone said a while back that Drew had a metal plate in his head, wonder if he would be resonant? You also know his other self-proclaimed way to deal with radio operators he dislikes is to throw a grappling hook into their tower, and pull it down with his car via rope. Wouldnt it be fuuny when Drew uses 150' of rope to pull down a 300' tower...it would squish his '75 Pinto and 11 meter whip to the ground. :) Take care. -- Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT Computer/Electronic Tech. II at The Ohio State University E-Mail: ckg+@osu.edu (cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) Radio : n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:51 1996 From: vbook@vbook.com (Ed Mitchell) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: KING TV (Seattle) attacks ham Date: 6 Mar 1996 03:36:02 GMT Message-ID: <4hj172$9q0@news.accessone.com> References: <4hcps2$5t8@tune.cs.columbia.edu> In article <4hcps2$5t8@tune.cs.columbia.edu>, jbaltz@news.cs.columbia.edu says... > >In article , Bruce Miller wrote: >>Following two message are provided for possible followup by those of us >>who might be willing to let KING TV know they are doing sloppy and unfair >>journalism. KING TV News (in Seattle) fax number is 206-448-4525. > >Maybe Drew knows someone who can put a pin through their coax... > >//jbaltz >-- KING and KOMO-TV stations have both gone totally to the "Geraldo" style of reporting and "infotainment", often tying entertainment TV shows into their newscasts. I stopped watching them long ago. Unfortunately, I didn't see the newscast so cannot comment on it specifically (I don't watch 'em). Ed, KF7VY ------------------------ personal email to vbook@vbook.com Visit Ham Radio Online, it's free, at http://www.accessone.com/~vbook/hronline.htm From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:52 1996 From: wermusic@initco.net (WERMUSIC) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: KING TV (Seattle) attacks ham Date: Tue, 05 Mar 96 19:42:24 GMT Message-ID: <4hibhq$4m2@mercury.initco.net> References: <4hcps2$5t8@tune.cs.columbia.edu> <4hhm5q$8eo@anomaly.ideamation.com> In article <4hhm5q$8eo@anomaly.ideamation.com>, kd1hz@anomaly.ideamation.com (Michael P. Deignan) wrote: >In article <4hcps2$5t8@tune.cs.columbia.edu>, > Jerry B. Altzman wrote: > >>>Following two message are provided for possible followup by those of us >>>who might be willing to let KING TV know they are doing sloppy and unfair >>>journalism. KING TV News (in Seattle) fax number is 206-448-4525. >> >>Maybe Drew knows someone who can put a pin through their coax... > >I'd like to be watching when Drew tries to put a pin through the >transmission line at a television station. Entertainment for the >whole family! > >MD I don't know HOW RESPONSIBLE of an ENG group KING-TV has, but I'll just bet the scenerio went something like this: xx:xx am News broke about the HAM story... xx:10 after careful (as careful as ANY HUNGRY local TV news dept. is) in reviewing the story they decide to AIR IT... (what the HELL it'll take up some time") xx:30 after talking with the "injured parties" an attempt is made to contact the "DEFENDANT" at home... (no answer) xx:45 after several tries to contact the individual,... and with an AIR DEADLINE FAST aproaching... they figgured What the heck let's just run over there... we gotta get some FOOTAGE of the antennas anyway... maybe we'll catch him at home... >>>>>> the mentality of the "feature driven" and "news poor" locality. cam From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:53 1996 From: ken.thompson@KS.Symbios.COM (Ken Thompson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: KING TV (Seattle) attacks ham Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 11:07:34 Message-ID: References: <4hcps2$5t8@tune.cs.columbia.edu> <4hj172$9q0@news.accessone.com> >KING and KOMO-TV stations have both gone totally to the "Geraldo" style of >reporting and "infotainment", often tying entertainment TV shows into their >newscasts. True of KSNW and KAKE here in Wichita too. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:54 1996 From: clarke@aztec.asu.edu (JACK CLARKE) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: KING TV Unfair to Seattle Ham. Date: 4 Mar 1996 14:48:31 GMT Message-ID: <4hevrv$3sj@news.asu.edu> >The TV people did not arrange to do a fair interview with Erckenbrack; >instead the crew showed up on his doorstep and did a confrontational >interview through the front door. It was his front door wasn't it!! Why didn't he invite them in? Then he would have had his "in-depth" interview. Jack VE3EED /W7 -- From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:55 1996 From: wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: KING TV Unfair to Seattle Ham. Date: 5 Mar 1996 11:41:41 GMT Message-ID: <4hh99l$t1a@cc.iu.net> References: <4hevrv$3sj@news.asu.edu> Reply-To: wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) In <4hevrv$3sj@news.asu.edu>, clarke@aztec.asu.edu (JACK CLARKE) writes: > >>The TV people did not arrange to do a fair interview with Erckenbrack; >>instead the crew showed up on his doorstep and did a confrontational >>interview through the front door. > >It was his front door wasn't it!! Why didn't he invite them in? >Then he would have had his "in-depth" interview. > >Jack VE3EED /W7 so this morning you open your door and find a crew from 20/20 on your doorstep and they want to know if you've stopped beating your wife. you can't win when the journalist has entered "assault mode". they got their interview with the complainers and now the project is the same as they'd use against the dishones t business...you aren't going to be prepared to discuss anything with them and they'll do anything to your answers to make you look like the bad guy (editing 101...excellent example of that on The Simpsons a while back where they took an OK answer by Homer and turned him into a drooling fool bad guy using his responses...). the tv station wants blood for the ratings monster and it IS sweeps right now. . Bill Newkirk WB9IVR The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group Melbourne, FL duty now for the future of amateur radio Lombardi's 1st Law of Business: Companies succeed in spite of their best effort. If they succeed at all. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:56 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.swap From: white_hae@ccsua.ctstateu.edu Subject: Looking for IC-402 acces., 432 yagi, .. Message-ID: <1996Mar4.075218.1@ccsua.ctstateu.edu> Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 12:52:18 GMT I have an Icom 402 432 portable. I'm looking for accessories such as the aerial, the BC20 NiCd charger, the BC15 charger. the IC30L linear, etc. I'm also looking for crystals for the 402 for the sat bands, and a smaller 432 yagi or sat antenna. 73 de N1QVE Harry From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:57 1996 From: lenwink@indirect.com (Len Winkler) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Luck Hurder, KY1T Date: Tue, 05 Mar 96 15:34:37 GMT Message-ID: <4hhmv4$2t6@globe.indirect.com> Luck Hurder, KY1T, will be the special guest this sunday, 3/10/96, on the Ham Radio & More radio show. Luck will discuss working at the ARRL, the future of amateur radio as he sees it, the plus's and minus's, no-code's future, and certain well known personalities in amateur radio. All this and your questions too. Listen on stations throughout the country or on WWCR shortwave, 5.065mhz, at 6:00pm ET, 2300 utc. 73, Len Len Winkler, KB7LPW lenwink@indirect.com P.O. Box 9219 kb7lpw@kc7y.az.usa.na Phoenix, Az. 85068-9219 Ham Radio & More Show info at: http://www.barc.org/barc/ham-more.html RealAudio site: www.tapr.org/hrm/hrm.html The show airs LIVE at 6:00pm ET on many stations throughout the country. The show also airs on WWCR shortwave, tape delayed at 1000utc on 7.435, on Mon days, and Saturdays at 1700utc on 12.160. LIVE ON WWCR, 5.065 mhz.....also check 7.435mhz, 2300utc Support "WOG". Written only General!!! From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:58 1996 From: shilkoff@ix.netcom.com(Larry Shilkoff) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Luck Hurder, KY1T Date: 5 Mar 1996 17:44:04 GMT Message-ID: <4hhuh4$i4r@cloner4.netcom.com> References: <4hhmv4$2t6@globe.indirect.com> In <4hhmv4$2t6@globe.indirect.com> lenwink@indirect.com (Len Winkler) writes: > > >The show airs LIVE at 6:00pm ET on many stations throughout the country. > >The show also airs on WWCR shortwave, tape delayed at 1000utc on 7.435, on Mondays, and Saturdays at 1700utc on 12.160. >LIVE ON WWCR, 5.065 mhz.....also check 7.435mhz, 2300utc > Are you still on satellite? I tried listening last Sunday with no luck. Larry From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:27:59 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Message-ID: <9@pplace.win.net> Reply-To: pw@pplace.win.net (Patrick Wilson) From: pw@pplace.win.net (Patrick Wilson) Date: Sun, 03 Mar 1996 00:42:04 GMT Subject: MM-3 Morse Machine 3 wanted I just bought a used MM3 over the net. I showed it to a friend and he would like one also. If you have one sitting around collecting dust, let me know. Send price and condition to me here or call me at my BBS, 804-779-0055 24hours per day. respond to pw@pplace.win.net. Thanks and 7 3 N0RDQ From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:28:00 1996 From: hughes@wolfenet.com (hughes) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Monitor mode on Icom IC-V68 Date: 2 Mar 1996 01:11:31 GMT Message-ID: <4h8783$hts@news1.wolfe.net> References: <825695113.22670snx@genes.pl.my> In article <825695113.22670snx@genes.pl.my>, wired@genes.pl.my (Eugene Kang) s ays: > >How do I use monitor mode on an Icom IC-V68? Pressing FUNC momentarily and >then holding it down doesn't work. > >And how do I get the "Ch x" display? I'm stuck at the display which >shows the channel number at the side and the frequency on the main >area. The manual shows "Ch x". I can't reverse the display too. > >(x = a channel number) > Well Eugene, you need to turn the radio off... then press the function + the A key at the sme time while turning on the radio. the display will then turn to a C. The radio will now wait for the user to input the 4 digit lock/unlock code. ( default is 1234 ) Hope this helps. hughes From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:28:02 1996 From: rec@goodguy (Richard Eyre-Eagles) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: My idea for restructuring the licensing system..and keeping the code Date: 5 Mar 1996 03:06:19 GMT Message-ID: <4hgb3b$3tt@news1.goodnet.com> There are many people against no-code on HF, so am I. However I am for slow code. Take a look at my ideas at http://www.goodnet.com/~rec/3tier.html In summary, there would be 3 license classes that all new licensees and upgrades would go to: - CLASS 3 [elements 2, 3(a) and 3(b)] Everything above 50 MHz - CLASS 2 [elements 1(a), 2, 3(a) and (b)] Frequency privleges equivlent to General Class. - CLASS 1 [element 1(b) and all writtens] Extra class privs. In addition, a proposal to allow temporary phone privleges from 7075-7100 in order to facilitate global phone communications on 40 meters until the world can agree on a new plan for world band 7. Please see the web page for more details! http://www.goodnet.com/~rec/3tier.html -- ================================================================== Richard Eyre-Eagles, KJ7MU | "The opinions expressed are not Tempe, Arizona | those of anyone but myself" ================================================================== goodnet is good primenet is bad Arizona, you have a choice From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:28:04 1996 From: bmicales@facstaff.wisc.edu (Bruce Micales) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: My idea for restructuring the licensing system..and keeping the code Date: 6 Mar 1996 02:21:30 GMT Message-ID: <4hisra$kgg@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <4hgb3b$3tt@news1.goodnet.com> In article <4hgb3b$3tt@news1.goodnet.com>, rec@goodguy says... >In summary, there would be 3 license classes that all new licensees and >upgrades would go to: > > - CLASS 3 [elements 2, 3(a) and 3(b)] Everything above 50 MHz > > - CLASS 2 [elements 1(a), 2, 3(a) and (b)] Frequency privleges > equivlent to General Class. > Would you be willing to "grandfather" the Tech PLUS (received before March 21, 1987) to the CLASS 2 license? These Tech PLUS (prior to 3/21/87) have the code, theory, and regulations elements. Bruce Micales WA2DEU From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:28:06 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc From: jlowman@netcom.com (Jim Lowman) Subject: Re: My idea for restructuring the licensing system..and keeping the code Message-ID: References: <4hgb3b$3tt@news1.goodnet.com> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 01:51:55 GMT Richard Eyre-Eagles (rec@goodguy) wrote: : In summary, there would be 3 license classes that all new licensees and : upgrades would go to: : - CLASS 3 [elements 2, 3(a) and 3(b)] Everything above 50 MHz : - CLASS 2 [elements 1(a), 2, 3(a) and (b)] Frequency privleges : equivlent to General Class. : - CLASS 1 [element 1(b) and all writtens] Extra class privs. I would agree, except I would keep the 20 wpm requirement for the Extra. Also, I would like to see the top two licenses have even more difficult theory. As an example, one can get all the questions in the pool correct for the subelement dealing with Smith charts on the Extra exam, without even knowing how to use the Smith chart. It would be nice to see examples of solving cetain types of problems as study material, but the tests requiring the applicant to actually demonstrate his competence by solving such problems. No, I do not think that one should have to be an engineer or ET to pass these exams, and no, I am not for some exclusive "club" at the top. But those last two steps on the ladder should represent quite an accomplishment. It is easy enough to get on the air now, with the no-code license, but memorizing the question pool for Advanced or Extra seems wrong to me. It might surprise you to know how many OT Extras have advocated memorizing or other shortcuts to me, as I prepare to take the Extra. Jim - KF6CR San Bernardino, CA From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:28:07 1996 From: djmd@one.net (David Wallace) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment Subject: Need repeater listing for Cincinnati, OH Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 06:52:32 GMT Message-ID: <4hlmad$oc@news.one.net> I just bought an FT-530 today and forgot to get a repeater directory. Could somebody please e-mail me the in/out frequencies of a few repeaters in Cincinnati??? Thank you very much in advance... KB8IFZ From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:28:08 1996 From: Robert Bissett Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy Subject: Re: No Code = No Brain = C.B. Date: Mon, 04 Mar 1996 14:36:21 -0500 Message-ID: <313B4635.ECB@monmouth.com> References: <4f3q9o$f5e@news.ecn.bgu.edu> <4fa64n$qpe@netport.com> <4fmimn$kgv@is05.micron.net> <4g6kv7$jmq@news.onramp.net> <312E0831.3D5F@ix.netcom.com> <1996Feb29.163900.17171@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Gary Coffman wrote: > > In article Fred

writes: > >how the hell could he have a General Class Radio/Telephone Oerators > >ticket from his US Navy days if he has no kind of FCC license. > > Once upon a time they *did* expire you know. > > >This is > >starting to sound like a wimp that cannot even grasp the concept of any > >kind of personal effort. BTW--when I was in the Navy you got a > >Radio/Telegraph Operators license as was required by Maritime law for > >shipboad radio OPs. You hadda know morse to get that!!!!!!!!!!! Good > >thing I got a pair of hip boots to wear. It's getting pretty deep. > > As I recall, military operators aren't required to hold commercial > certificates of any kind. So if he did get a commercial ticket, it > was of his own choice, and outside his military duties. Of course, > once upon a time naval ROs were required to know Morse, but that > wouldn't apply if he were a radar tech. In that case he may have > chosen to get a commercial General Radiotelephone with radar > endorsement for use when he returned to civilian life. > > (This isn't intended to defend the outlawry expoused by the flamer, > just an attempt to show your counter arguments aren't sufficient.) > > Gary > -- > Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems > Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp addre sses > 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org > Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | Gary, you are absolutely right. Military operators have never been and still are not required to have an FCC license. I am retired from the Army, and have every day contacts with military operators and none have FCC licenses except for the hams or those moonlighting at mobile radio repair shops. Bob -- ********* Bob Bissett rbissett@monmouth.com ********* From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:28:09 1996 From: rocky@inland.net (Charles R. Van Buskirk) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: power supply Date: Tue, 05 Mar 96 17:23:45 GMT Message-ID: <4hhtb1$i9g_001@ts1p8.inland.net> I need a power supply for a tcr-3 drake or a galaxy 500 both are very old units. pick up at a auction for 20.00 so any help would be great. BTW I am not a hamster my father is. If you would like call numbers befor sale I can get them. Thank Rocky From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:28:10 1996 From: prvalko@saturn.acs.oakland.edu (prvalko) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: QRP Info? Date: 4 Mar 1996 14:44:20 GMT Message-ID: <4hevk4$g70@news2.acs.oakland.edu> References: <4h5qgq$s67@cc.iu.net> Bob Lombardi (blombard@iu.net) wrote: : I'm sorry if this is too mundane, but could someone tell me the "preferred" : QRP hangout frequencies on all HF bands? Bob, You may want to subscribe to the QRP listserver! That is *THE* place on the net for serious QRP discussions and fun. Send a message to : listserv@lehigh.edu You don't need a subject line but include the following text on line one subscribe qrp-l your_callsign your_name expect 30-50 message per day. The most popular QRP freq is probably 7.040 +/- a couple KHz. 73 =paul= wb8zjl : Thanks es 73, : Bob : -- : Bob Lombardi WB4EHS in Melbourne, FL o \---\---\ : blombard@iu.net or blombard@freenet.fsu.edu /\ | : Telescope making, optics, astronomy, piano, bicycling -\ 7 & radio | : I've run out of things I can say in 4 lines. (*)/(*) | From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:28:11 1996 From: "COOPER, PAUL WINFIEL" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.packet Subject: Question Re: Yaesu FT-727R and packet radio Date: 06 MAR 96 01:27:41 EST Message-ID: <06MAR96.01578505.0032@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU> I have a friend that wants to find a previous article in 73 Magazine about an inexpensive TNC for the Yaesu FT-727R, as well as supporting CAT software... Any help would be greatly appreciated... thank you. Paul p.s. - please e-mail DIRECTLY to this address... thanks. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:28:12 1996 From: "Ray D." Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Questions for Element 3 of the FCC GROL Date: Sat, 02 Mar 1996 08:49:36 -0500 Message-ID: <313851F0.7D8C@usa.nai.net> I am trying to locate the question pool for Element 3 of the FCC General Radiotelephone Operator's License. Does anyone know where I might be able to find this information on the Internet? -- Ray Duchesne "Pain is inevitable, misery is optional" From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:28:13 1996 From: ham@w3eax.umd.edu (Scott Rosenfeld NF3I) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy Subject: Radios at Atlanta Olympics Date: 4 Mar 1996 14:22:57 GMT Message-ID: <4heuc1$7js@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> I was listening to NEWSLINE last night. Two points of interest: A person operating on 27.774 MHz was fined (and has exhausted all non-federal appeals) $2,000 by the FCC. The Olympics will be very ham-unfriendly. All frequencies in and around the Olympics have apparently been accounted for by the staff and, in the interest of security, 2-way radios of all kinds (inclu- ding amateur HT's, known for being able to be modified for out of band operation), are banned from the venues (where the events happen). I don't know if this includes cell phones, but by the way it sounded, it just might. Anyway, they've said not to bring your HT along, period. -- Scott Rosenfeld NF3I Burtonsville, MD FM19 QRV 40-10/6/2/440 *** VHF @ <25w, HF @ <5w *** Who says Morse Code is dead? *** Stuck at 138 cfd with dipoles - QRP-L, QRP ARCI, DXCC/WAS/WAC 72/73 de Suburban DC 301-549-1022 h / 301-982-1015 w dit dit From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:28:14 1996 From: wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy Subject: Re: Radios at Atlanta Olympics Date: 5 Mar 1996 02:59:03 GMT Message-ID: <4hgaln$nn9@cc.iu.net> References: <4heuc1$7js@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Reply-To: wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) In <4heuc1$7js@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu>, ham@w3eax.umd.edu (Scott Rosenfeld NF3 I) writes: > >I don't know if this includes cell phones, but by the way it sounded, >it just might. Anyway, they've said not to bring your HT along, >period. >-- >Scott Rosenfeld NF3I Burtonsville, MD FM19 QRV 40-10/6/2/440 Bell South is one of the big shot sponsors. you can bet your Bell South cell p hone will not have any problems with security at the Olympics (...from tennesee to florida... they say that in the local Bell South ads touting their cell radiot elephone networks (made by Hughes and Alcatel...wonder how much that little by line cost 'em?)...i wonder if there will be anything in ATL to see...) i could be wrong, but i'm betting with the sponsors...wonder what they'll do t o the passersby who don't want to have anything to do with the Olympics? Bill Newkirk WB9IVR The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group Melbourne, FL duty now for the future of amateur radio Lombardi's 1st Law of Business: Companies succeed in spite of their best effort. If they succeed at all. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:28:15 1996 From: croaker@access.digex.net (Francis A. Ney, Jr.) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy Subject: Re: Radios at Atlanta Olympics Date: 5 Mar 1996 17:20:21 -0500 Message-ID: References: <4heuc1$7js@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Reply-To: croaker@access.digex.net In article <4heuc1$7js@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> ham@w3eax.umd.edu writes: > The Olympics will be very ham-unfriendly. All frequencies in and > around the Olympics have apparently been accounted for by the staff > and, in the interest of security, 2-way radios of all kinds (inclu- > ding amateur HT's, known for being able to be modified for out of > band operation), are banned from the venues (where the events happen). > > I don't know if this includes cell phones, but by the way it sounded, > it just might. Anyway, they've said not to bring your HT along, > period. Well, that settles it: the olympics will be a MUST MISS for me... What a bunch of assholes. --- Frank Ney WV/EMT-B VA/EMT-A N4ZHG LPWV NRA(L) GOA CCRKBA LEAA JPFO Sponsor, BATF Abuse Page http://www.access.digex.net/~croaker/batfabus.html West Virginia Coordinator, Libertarian Second Amendment Caucus "[President Bill Clinton] was only the latest in a long line of critics...and as usual, his motives were suspect, being ostensibly moral but primarily political, aimed at increasing the power of himself and his party." - Christopher Stasheff, speaking as Horace Burbage _A Company Of Stars_ (Del Rey, 1991, ISBN 0-345-36889-4) From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:28:17 1996 From: thompson@atl.mindspring.com (David L. Thompson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy Subject: Re: Radios at Atlanta Olympics Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 05:50:33 GMT Message-ID: <4hlt0h$iju@firebrick.mindspring.com> References: <4heuc1$7js@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Reply-To: thompson@atl.mindspring.com >The Olympics will be very ham-unfriendly. All frequencies in and >around the Olympics have apparently been accounted for by the staff >and, in the interest of security, 2-way radios of all kinds (inclu- >ding amateur HT's, known for being able to be modified for out of >band operation), are banned from the venues (where the events happen). >I don't know if this includes cell phones, but by the way it sounded, >it just might. Anyway, they've said not to bring your HT along, >period. >-- >Scott Rosenfeld NF3I Burtonsville, MD Four years ago I and several other active Atlanta area hams contacted the Atlanta Committee for the Olympic Games about the possibility of setting up amateur radio al la recent olympic games where special stations were set up to contact stations around the world. I have beautiful cards from Seoul for example. The person I spoke with was not friendly at all, but asked to see one of the cards. I sent along one (never did get it back) that fully explained the station and its reason to be. The next week I got a terse letter back saying that ACOG wanted no part of "amateur" activity. At about the same time, Seattle hosted the WRTC with hams from all over the world competing against each other. I took the idea and placed this in front of several members of ACOG and they told me its too much trouble, forget it. Within the last two years ACOG realized that they need help so they finally reached out to both hams and REACT for volunteer support. I understand they are still looking for more volunteers. But by then the taste was so bad that I wanted no part of it. I can't speak for HT's or cellular phones, but from what I hear there will be many out there as long as they are held by registered volunteers. Beware that to volunteer you need to be available for the entire 2 plus weeks and be able to work anytime. I hear that possibily Georgia Tech (W4AQL) or Sci-Trek Museum (STARS) may have some radio activity as official olympic stations. Lets hope so as I personally don't want to let Atlanta go down as the first olympic games since WW II not to have some type of (all band) olympic amateur activity. Dave Thompson, K4JRB From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:28:18 1996 From: eckman@eos1.larc.nasa.gov (Richard Eckman) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: rec.radio.amateur.dx newsgroup status? Date: 6 Mar 1996 13:08:44 GMT Message-ID: <4hk2os$17h@reznor.larc.nasa.gov> Last autumn, an RFD was circulated to start a rec.radio.amateur.dx newsgroup. I have a copy of the draft charter and my impression was that the RFV was ready to be circulated back in October. However, this never happened and I haven't heard back from the original proposer in months. Does anyone know what the status of this proposal is? It seemed like a good idea and I wonder why it never made it to the request for vote stage. Richard Eckman KO4MR Hampton, VA From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:28:19 1996 From: craig.williams@ccc-bbs.com (CRAIG WILLIAMS) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Repeater freq's in CA Message-ID: <8BBF3E9.1552001560.uuout@ccc-bbs.com> Date: Sat, 02 Mar 96 16:41:00 -0500 Distribution: world Reply-To: craig.williams@ccc-bbs.com (CRAIG WILLIAMS) References: <31349FFF.434B@ix.netcom.com> daneke@ix.netcom.com wrote: D>Maurice Andries wrote: >> >> Hi everybody, >> >> For our summer holidays we will be traveling to the southwestern US >> and since I always take a tranceiver with me when traveling I would >> like to know as many frequencies as possible along the following >> route. >> >> Los Angeles-Las Vegas-Grand Canyon (south rim)-Monument Valley-Grand >> Canyon (North rim)-Las Vegas-Sequoia Nat. Forest-Sacramento-Napa >> Valley-San Fransisco-Los Angelles (SF-LA via highway 1) >> >> pse send your replies via e-mail to the address below. >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> bye, Maurice (mauricea@glo.be) >> D>Why don't you buy the ARRL handbook for $8.00. You can get one >at any HAM radio Store D>73 >jim Jim, Yup, great book (I've got it and the ARRL atlas). But better yet for the SW is the SW US repeater book (AZ, CO, NV, NM, UT) available from the Arizona Repeater Assn for $10 + $2 S&H.. PO Box 35758, Phoenix AZ 85069-5758. It has every repeater listed in multiple tables--categorized by freq, location, state, call sign, geographically by Interstate Hwy travel, linked system, wide area, etc. cc: mauricea@glo.be --- * OLXWin 1.00b * HAM: KC8BGV / Internet: craig.williams@ccc-bbs.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:28:20 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: o10022@a81.corp.mot.com Subject: Re: Repeater freq's in CA, NV, AZ, UT?? Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 23:01:07 GMT Message-ID: <1996Mar1.230107.3975@schbbs.mot.com> References: <31349FFF.434B@ix.netcom.com> For Arizona, try http://www.indirect.com/www/ara/ Tony KC7HDT From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:28:21 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: o10022@a81.corp.mot.com Subject: Re: Repeater freq's in CA, NV, AZ, UT?? Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 22:58:42 GMT Message-ID: <1996Mar1.225842.3859@schbbs.mot.com> References: <31349FFF.434B@ix.netcom.com> In article <31349FFF.434B@ix.netcom.com> Jim Daneke writes: deletions > > Why don't you buy the ARRL handbook for $8.00. You can get one > at any HAM radio Store > The 1995 version of the little ARRL Repeater book was almost useless, at least as regards Arizona repeaters. Whether it was OK for other states, I don't know. Tony KC7HDT From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:28:22 1996 From: mnewton@ici.net (Mike Newton) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.equipment Subject: REQ: Any MOD's for IC25A ? Date: 1 Mar 1996 19:14:07 GMT Message-ID: <4h7i9v$huc@crusher.ici.net> From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:28:23 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel) Subject: Re: RFD: HOKA User's News Group? Message-ID: References: <4h7042$jar@news.usit.net> Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 12:50:27 GMT Steven Fritts (sfritts@usit.net) wrote: : feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel) wrote: : >As a brand new user of HOKA's Code 3 multimode decoder, I'm wondering : >if HOKA software users have considered setting up either a user's : >group or a mailing list to discuss use of Code 3. The WUN mailing list : >does not appear to be appropriate place to discuss Code 3 issues and : >right now I have a lot of questions about how to use the software. : Dave, : I have had a Hoka Code 3 for about two years. A fantastic unit, but it : does have its quirks. I have long wished for a newsgroup that dealt in : the Code 3 unit. I assume you have version 5 of the software. : Will be glad to correspond with you. BTW, there is another user here : in Knoxville also. We compare notes all the time! : 73's : Steve Another HOKA user emailed me portions of the digital signals faq. I had no idea of the number of digital data formats being used over the air. Learning all this stuff will keep me busy for a while. I'm curious about what percentage of the time the autoclassify mode successfully identifies a transmission. -- feustel@netcom.com Dave Feustel N9MYI For PGP Public Key, finger feustel@netcom.com Fort Wayne, IN Or else access http://www.mixi.net/~feustel/ 219-483-1857 From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:28:24 1996 From: jes@cbus.mindspring.com (Eddie Seymour) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Searching for a SRF3897 transistor Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 00:44:37 GMT Message-ID: <313b8d50.6548628@news.mindspring.com> Reply-To: jes@cbus.mindspring.com Lost a SRF3897-9123 transistor in my RFConcepts 2-217 amp. Need a source for it or a substitute. Thanks. Eddie Seymour, WB4MLE E-Mail jes@cbus.mindspring.com Packet wb4mle@wb4mle.#cenal.al.usa.noam From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:28:24 1996 From: Steven Priest Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: SLOW SCAN TV - info needed Date: 5 Mar 1996 16:49:24 GMT Message-ID: <4hhrak$eem@seralph9.essex.ac.uk> I am currently doing a project on SSTV, and would be very grateful if anyone has any information they could send me. Here are a list of subject areas which would be usful: History Present Uses Hardware Recievers Circuit Designs, ideas etc Cheers Steven Priest From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:28:26 1996 From: mead@dg.com (Glenn Mead) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: SLOW SCAN TV - info needed Date: Wed, 06 Mar 96 14:54:40 GMT Message-ID: <4hk8vl$m2k@dg-rtp.dg.com> References: <4hhrak$eem@seralph9.essex.ac.uk> <4hiaje$scp@hpax.cup.hp.com> In article <4hiaje$scp@hpax.cup.hp.com>, jholly@cup.hp.com (Jim Hollenback) wr ote: >Steven Priest (spries@essex.ac.uk) wrote: >: I am currently doing a project on SSTV, and would be very grateful if >: anyone has any information they could send me. > >: Here are a list of subject areas which would be usful: > >: History >: Present Uses >: Hardware Recievers >: Circuit Designs, ideas etc > >: Cheers >: Steven Priest > >It's fairly simple to get info on SSTV ... Just call CQ on 14.230 kHz. >-- >Jim Hollenback Here are some net sites that will be helpfull for your project: http://www.mindport.net/~jamie/ http://www.alaska.net/~buchholz/ http://www.ultranet.com/~sstv/ http://www.panix.com/clay/ham/ http://www.wolfe.net/~jlbarber/sstv.htm Good luck. Glenn - ke4zea .-------------------------------------------------------------------------. | Glenn Mead | KE4ZEA | | | Data General Corp. | e-mail mead@dg.com | Without challenge there | | 62 Alexander Dr. | voice 919/248-6029 | is no chance to excel. | | RTP, NC 27709 | fax 919/248-6108 | | |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| | packet KE4ZEA@KB4WGA.#DUR.NC.USA.NOAM | `-------------------------------------------------------------------------' From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:28:26 1996 From: jholly@cup.hp.com (Jim Hollenback) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: SLOW SCAN TV - info needed Date: 5 Mar 1996 21:10:06 GMT Message-ID: <4hiaje$scp@hpax.cup.hp.com> References: <4hhrak$eem@seralph9.essex.ac.uk> Steven Priest (spries@essex.ac.uk) wrote: : I am currently doing a project on SSTV, and would be very grateful if : anyone has any information they could send me. : Here are a list of subject areas which would be usful: : History : Present Uses : Hardware Recievers : Circuit Designs, ideas etc : Cheers : Steven Priest It's fairly simple to get info on SSTV ... Just call CQ on 14.230 kHz. -- Jim Hollenback From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:28:27 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: Bob Archer N4ECO Subject: Re: Sneaky suggestions for fox in foxhunt wanted.. Message-ID: Reply-To: Bob.Archer@columbiaSC.ncr.com (archer) References: <4h09q8$pbm@news1.ucsd.edu> Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 19:36:09 GMT Some 30 years ago, brother-in-law(WA4WGL) & myself hung a 2 meter ground plane up side down from a bridge about 4 feet off the water. With a string from shore we would swing the antenna in a circle while transmitting. There were several bridges over the river & the signal would bounce off the water, buildings & all the bridges. The hunters were scattered over a 15 mile area up & down the river. We were not found until we were asked to leave the antenna stationary and described the ball field near the bridge we could see. It was a lot of fun watching & listening to those guys driving over us on the bridge then going on to the next bridge, etc. Bob Archer N4ECO From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:28:28 1996 From: Don Gowland Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: SOS!!! Date: Fri, 1 Mar 1996 19:24:32 +0000 Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <4glg3c$o20@news1.goodnet.com> In article <4glg3c$o20@news1.goodnet.com>, eb99541@goodnet.com writes >I have this trivia sheet that I REALLY need to finish. One oth >questions is: > The distress signal SOS has been thought to mean "Save our Ship" or >"Save our souls" but it really has no meaning. Why was it chosen. > If anyone know the real answer FOR SURE please, for the love of God, >email me as I cannot keep up with this group. > Thanks in advance, > Jason > The letters "SOS" have no particular words associated to them. They were chosen in the early days of Wireless Telegraphy because they were easy to send and easily recognised. -- Don Gowland G4LGA From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:28:29 1996 From: Charles Bolland Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.noncomm,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.swap Subject: Re: Stand Alone Broadcast Radio Station Database - LW,MW,SW Date: 2 Mar 1996 21:35:10 GMT Message-ID: <4haeue$fkb@news.flinet.com> References: <4gttsh$82a@detroit.freenet.org> <4gvda8$ou@Speedy.grolier.fr> To: chuck@flinet.com Friends, I'm still sending out the Stand Alone Broadcast Radio Station Database to whomever wants it. I would like your mailing address and Email address for registration and possibly a future letter describing a more comprehensive database program for radio. All information will be kept confidential.. Just answer this posting to "chuck@flinet.com". The database has more than 4,000 records already and can be edited and updated. Hope to hear from you. Chuck KA4PRF From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:28:30 1996 From: clancast@mindspring.com (Clint Lancaster) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Technician Plus Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 23:07:19 GMT Message-ID: <4hihf3$5l2@firebrick.mindspring.com> What is a Technician Plus? Seems I are one ! CML WD4KZJ From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:28:32 1996 From: John Mullan Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Technician Plus Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 16:45:31 -0800 Message-ID: <313CE02B.5475@sr.hp.com> References: <4hihf3$5l2@firebrick.mindspring.com> Clint Lancaster wrote: > > What is a Technician Plus? > > Seems I are one ! > > CML > WD4KZJ Over the years since your license was originally issued the rules have changed a bit. You had to pass elements 1a (5 wpm), 2 (Novice theory), and 3 (Tech/General theory). You have the priviliges of a Novice below 30 MHz, and all privileges above. The current Technician class has passed only element 2 (Novice theory) and 3a (Technician theory), and has only VHF/UHF privileges. The Technician Plus class of license has passed elements 1a (5 wpm), 2 (Novice theory), and 3a (Technician theory). Since your technician license predates the rule change you qualify as a tech plus. An interesting side note is that you should keep your original license as it will give you credit for element 3b (General theory) should you ever want to upgrade. 73 de KD2LQ From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:28:33 1996 Message-ID: <052337Z05031996@anon.penet.fi> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: an276320@anon.penet.fi Reply-To: an276320@anon.penet.fi Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 05:15:37 UTC Subject: The Sex Life of the Electron THE SEX LIFE OF THE ELECTRON by D.C. Current One night when his charge was pretty high, Micro-Farad decided to seek a cute little coil to let him discharge. He picked up Millie-Amp and took her for a ride on his Megacycle. They rode across the Wheatstone Bridge, around the sine waves and stopped in the magnetic field by a flowing current. Micro-Farad, attracted by Millie-Amps characteristic curves, soon had her fully charged and excited her resistance to a minimum. He laid her on the ground potential, raised her frequency and lowered her reluctance. He pulled out his high voltage probe and inserted it in her socket connecting them in parallel, and began short circuiting her resistance shunt. Fully excited, Millie-Amp mumbled, "OHM - OHM - OHM - OHM". With his tube operating at a maximum and her field vibrating with his current flow, caused her shunt to overheat and Micro-Farad was rapidly discharged and drained of every electron. They fluxed all night, trying various connections and sockets, until his magnet had a soft core and lost all of it's field strength. Afterwards, Millie-Amp tried self induction and damaged her selenoids. With his battery fully discharged, Micro-Farad was unable to excite his field, so they spent the rest of the night reversing polarity and blowing each other's fuses. --****ATTENTION****--****ATTENTION****--****ATTENTION****--***ATTENTION*** Your e-mail reply to this message WILL be *automatically* ANONYMIZED. Please, report inappropriate use to abuse@anon.penet.fi For information (incl. non-anon reply) write to help@anon.penet.fi If you have any problems, address them to admin@anon.penet.fi From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:28:35 1996 From: doug_mcf@efn.org (Doug McFadden) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Tubes Date: Mon, 04 Mar 1996 13:52:31 GMT Message-ID: <4hesnh$hd4@mars.efn.org> References: <4g66be$65r@news-f.iadfw.net> amman@airmail.net (McCarthy) wrote: >Need 2 tubes: >12BY7A >S2001/or 6146B > Thanks > Robert KC5RYI > amman@airmail.net Roundup Electronics in Pendleton Or. has exactly what you need. I got mine there............. 1-541-276-3152 ======================================================================== Doug McFadden, KC7IMR, doug_mcf@efn.org, Irrigon, Oregon ======================================================================== 1-541-922-9684 KC7IMR @ WA7HJV From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:28:36 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: n1ist@netcom.com (Michael L. Ardai) Subject: Re: Use of radio on passenger airlines Message-ID: References: <313B6C22.7F80@ix.netcom.com> Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 15:50:24 GMT In article <313B6C22.7F80@ix.netcom.com> Victor Morange writes: -Edwin Clark wrote: -> -> Is there any other federal laws that affect the use of amateur equipment -> aboard airlines other that 97.11? -The FAA states that Pagers, Cellular Phones, Radios including scanners and -Ham, C.B., general etc. are not allowed to be operated or in use on board an -aircraft without the approval of the captain of the aircraft. One of the airlines (US Air Shuttle, Delta?) specifically lists "VHF scanners" as allowable equipment except during takeoff and landing - it's in the in-flight magazine. Transmitters (and mice with tails) are still forbidden. -Also it maybe wise to -take of the battery and antenna to get through security. Actually, I'd leave it in one piece until after security; they usually want to see it light up or make noise to make sure it isn't a bomb... Also, if you are carrying spare battery packs, make sure they are either individually bagged or have an insulator over the terminals; it won't look too good if your bag starts smoking :-) /mike -- \|/ Michael L. Ardai N1IST -*- ---------------------------------- /|\ n1ist@netcom.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:28:37 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: kim@nntp.cadence.com (Kim Helliwell) Subject: Re: Use of radio on passenger airlines Message-ID: References: Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 18:16:57 GMT Edwin Clark (eclark19@skypoint.com) wrote: : Is there any other federal laws that affect the use of amateur equipment : aboard airlines other that 97.11? : seems to me I read something a few months back about a complete : restriction on use because of possible safety of the airplane. : any help will be appreciated....ed KB0MKH I don't have my book of FARs (Federal Aeronautical Regulations) with me, but have been studying them for the Private Pilot's License written test, and here is what I remember: Use of Cell Phones is stricly forbidden by the FARs (as well as the FCC regs). Actually, the use of any radio device in the plane (when in flight, which is to say: any time the plane is moving) is prohibited by the "fact" that the FCC doesn't license anything but the aircraft's radios for use in the aircraft. This leaves ham radios in a sort of limbo, because hams carry their licenses with them; so I think what happens is that it's left to the pilot in command of the aircraft to determine whether the use of a ham radio transceiver compromises safety. All airline carriers probably have policies that discourage the PIC from allowing the use of ham radios in commercial airliners (anyone have a counterexample?). Annoyance of fellow passengers could be as big a factor here as aircraft safety. But in small general aviation planes, it's absolutely up to the PIC. My sorting out of this legal mess is this: FCC licenses cell phones for certain venues, which exclude airplanes in flight. But ham radios are OK if the PIC determines it's not a safety hazard. -- "Never let work interfere with your reasons for working." Kim Helliwell From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:28:38 1996 From: Michael J Wooding Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: VHF Communications Magazine Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 18:46:58 +0000 Distribution: world Message-ID: <2rAv6ZAi2dPxEwQ4@g6iqm.demon.co.uk> Hi Folks, For subscribers and interested parties: Issue 1/1996 of VHF Communications is now at the printers and should be shipped by March 30th. For more information on the contents of this issue and on subscribing to the magazine take a look at our Web site: http://www.eolas.co.uk/ag/vhfcomm.htm Thanks and 73 ... Mike Michael J Wooding vhf-comm@g6iqm.demon.co.uk - CompuServe: 100441,377 Web Pages: http://www.eolas.co.uk/ag/vhfcomm.htm (hambits.htm & hamclip.htm) Tel: (0)1788 890365 Fax: (0)1788 891883 KM Publications, 5 Ware Orchard, Barby, Nr.Rugby, CV23 8UF, UK VHF Communications Magazine - Especially Covering VHF, UHF and Microwaves From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:28:39 1996 From: Mike Gathergood Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Whatever happened to AC-SSB ?? Date: Fri, 01 Mar 96 09:55:38 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <825674138snz@g4kfk.demon.co.uk> References: <4h1tmr$n7p@crchh327.rich.bnr.ca> Reply-To: Mike@g4kfk.demon.co.uk In article <4h1tmr$n7p@crchh327.rich.bnr.ca> cnc23a@b4pph13e.bnr.ca "Ken Edwards" writes: > A few years ago ther was alot of talk about Amplitude Compandored Single-Sid e > Band communications. > > Haven't heard much about it lately. > > Any pointers on info ? It's being marketed (very successfully) in the UK by Securicor as 'LINEAR MODULATION' I toured the factory (near Bath, UK) last year and saw a large number of radios being soak tested - these were badged with another vendor's name, and were destined for Chicago. 73 Mike * QRV around 0800 and 1800 most weekdays on GB3HL * G4KFK * (Hillingdon 433.075/434.675) and also 51.83 MHz * From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:28:40 1996 From: Leila Henderson Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: When does the Foothill College Swap in Los Altos, CA, start? Date: 2 Mar 1996 04:27:31 GMT Message-ID: <4h8inj$8jd@hustle.rahul.net> References: <4gd2lf$pem@globe.indirect.com> <4h5ulh$s7d@nntp.flash.net> <4h63tj$hd1@reader2.ix.netcom.com> : Title says it all. . . . : I think it starts back up on March 9th, but I want to confirm (I live 5 : hours away so I don't want to find an empty parking lot when I get : there! : Thanks!!! : John : KE6TGN The Foothill Electronic Flea Market is held the second Saturday of each month from March thru September. The first one is March 9th "Le" KB6MXH From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:28:41 1996 From: Dave Donkers Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,sci.electronics,equipment,sci.electronics.repair Subject: WTD: Schematic - SM150 Heath Freq. Ctr. Date: Wed, 06 Mar 1996 15:06:31 -0800 Message-ID: <313E1A77.242C@aps.anl.gov> Greetings -- I am looking for a copy of the schematic or manual for a Heath/Schlumberger Model SM-150A Frequency Counter, vintage mid-1970's (from datecodes on chips). Please reply with possible source or, if you have one, I will pay copy/postage/fax costs. I am also able to recieve scanned images. Dave N9FLA From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:28:42 1996 From: Geoff Brown Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: WWW Pages NEW! Date: 1 Mar 1996 21:04:31 GMT Message-ID: <4h7oov$3pm@fhbgb1.itl.net> Readers may like to know that many additions have been added to the Jersey Radio WWW pages. Try http://user.itl.net/~equinox Contest list, Special 50MHz Newsletter,EME News, Beacon News, cluster, SSTV, Packet info, digital eq, Icom/Kenwood/Yaseu, over 500 links plus weather news from all over the globe, Internet searching systems, "Certainly the best radio pages on the Net" as the visitors say! Try them and see! From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:28:43 1996 From: asperges@innotts.co.uk (Jeremy Boot) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: WWW Pages Update Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 19:18:14 GMT Message-ID: <313c8868.7854843@news.innotts.co.uk> Reply-To: asperges@innotts.co.uk Updated and improved for March: http://www.innotts.co.uk/~asperges/ Still going strong. SWL Pages included. Lots of visitors worldwide to date. Keep 'em coming. Support your pages! 73 de Jeremy G4NJH asperges@innotts.co.uk [Home, Am Radio, SWL pages: http://www.innotts.co.uk/~asperges/ ] From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:28:44 1996 From: Pierre-Andre Rovelli Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: WWW-ham site in HB9 Date: Mon, 04 Mar 1996 12:50:37 +0100 Message-ID: <313AD90D.38C@bi.swissptt.ch> Check out my Homepage at http://www.spectraweb.ch/~provel/rovex.htm for links to amateur radio sites in Switzerland. It's still under construction but I plan to add many ham tools especially for the DX'ers and antenna designers. It also provide information about the use of Linux operating system for ham applications. If you like it or have any suggestions, please email me ! Pierre-André Rovelli HB9FMN HB9FMN@HB9EAS.CHE.EU hb9fmn@ampr.org parovelli@spectraweb.ch From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:28:45 1996 From: kb7et@usa.pipeline.com(Jim Sheffield) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: XTALS wanted Date: 4 Mar 1996 18:10:56 GMT Message-ID: <4hfbng$ors@news1.usa.pipeline.com> I've got a Drake 2-NT that I would like to get on the air. I'm looking for transmitting crystals in the range of 7.01 - 7.150, especially 7.01 - 7.03. Thanks and 73, Jim, KB7ET kb7et@usa.pipeline.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:28:46 1996 From: "COOPER, PAUL WINFIEL" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.packet Subject: Yaesu FT-727R and CAT system/ TNC Question... Date: 06 MAR 96 01:34:10 EST Message-ID: <06MAR96.01695251.0050@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU> I have a friend who is seeking an article from 73 Magazine regarding the Yaesu FT-727R and the CAT software that supports it... any info. regarding this would be appreciated... thank you. Paul p.s. - please e-mail DIRECTLY to my address... thanks again. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:28:47 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: erlq@netcom.com Subject: Re: Yaesu FT2500M modification Message-ID: References: <4g0juu$22k@sequoia.idir.net> Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 21:44:28 GMT Monty Richard Fritts (ltech@ott.net) wrote: : I would like to find the modification for the Yaesu FT2500M. I need the modi fication to allow it to transmit out of band. From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:15:30 1996 From: gfoley@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Gerard Foley) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 'cell driving' illegal Date: 5 Mar 1996 23:06:37 -0500 Message-ID: <4hj30d$nrh@acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us> References: <4h72d6$ep3@acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us> <4hdbpb$g79@jupiter.planet.net> Steve Butler (sbut-is@seatimes.com) wrote: : On 3 Mar 1996, Steve - KF2TI wrote: : > > : from driving around wearing Walkman headsets and thus not able to hea r : > > : warning sounds. : > > : > > The absurdity of this, of course, is that in a modern sedan with the : > > windows closed and the radio turned on, the driver will hear even less : > > than if he had full closure double earphones. : > > : > : > Also affects those who have 1 earpiece boom/mike headsets : > : One wonders how the deaf ever manage to drive. Certainly they should be : required to hear before getting a license! I agree that sirens are something to listen for, but the poor directionality of sound waves in the car environment really makes the interpetation of what you hear very difficult. Ever figure out who was that blowing the horn, and why was it being blown? Gerry K8EF From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:15:31 1996 From: clarke@aztec.asu.edu (JACK CLARKE) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 'cell driving' illegal Date: 10 Mar 1996 17:10:37 GMT Message-ID: <4hv2ed$6h0@news.asu.edu> >Regardless, I for one strongly would prefer to see stern laws made >and enforced against using hand-held phones (or "like" devices) while >driving. > >Tony KC7HDT How old are you, Tony? Maybe you shouldn't drive anymore! Jack VE3EED/W7 -- From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:15:32 1996 From: ashworth@hevanet.COM (Dennis/Vivian Ashworth) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: (none) Date: 9 Mar 96 05:03:00 GMT Message-ID: info From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:15:33 1996 From: prvalko@saturn.acs.oakland.edu (prvalko) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: *** New Ten Tec 2 Meter XCVR Kit! *** Date: 7 Mar 1996 14:31:39 GMT Message-ID: <4hms0b$l0t@news2.acs.oakland.edu> References: <1996Feb26.193601.12875@njitgw.njit.edu> <4h4tvd$alk@news.usit.net> <4h8ijc$9c8@news.accessone.com> Ed Mitchell (vbook@vbook.com) wrote: : About $200. I just got the $95 20m to 6m transverter and have started work o n : it. Its a very nice kit. Not quite up to Heathkit standards but very close. Really. I thought is was slightly better than a Heathkit. The manual was substantially easier to use as it is a ring binding and lays flat. No Heathkit I ever built had test procedures after finishing sections of the unit either. When asked, I ususally say that the Ten Tec 6M transverter is probably the best $100 I've ever spent on a ham radio item. 73 =paul= wb8zjl From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:15:34 1996 From: ham@w3eax.umd.edu (Scott Rosenfeld NF3I) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: *** New Ten Tec 2 Meter XCVR Kit! *** Date: 7 Mar 1996 18:58:58 GMT Message-ID: <4hnblj$s6c@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> References: <1996Feb26.193601.12875@njitgw.njit.edu> <4h4tvd$alk@news.usit.net> <4h8ijc$9c8@news.accessone.com> <4hms0b$l0t@news2.acs.oakland.edu> >: About $200. I just got the $95 20m to 6m transverter and have started work on >: it. Its a very nice kit. Not quite up to Heathkit standards but very close. > >Really. I thought is was slightly better than a Heathkit. The manual was >substantially easier to use as it is a ring binding and lays flat. No >Heathkit I ever built had test procedures after finishing sections of >the unit either. > >When asked, I ususally say that the Ten Tec 6M transverter is probably >the best $100 I've ever spent on a ham radio item. I have to agree completely with Paul. The manuals for Heath and Ten-Tec are both good, and the Ten-Tec offers section-by-section testing. I'd say the PCB and enclosure are of equal or better quality in the TT, too. -- Scott Rosenfeld NF3I Burtonsville, MD FM19 QRV 40-10/6/2/440 *** VHF @ <25w, HF @ <5w *** Who says Morse Code is dead? *** Stuck at 138 cfd with dipoles - QRP-L, QRP ARCI, DXCC/WAS/WAC 72/73 de Suburban DC 301-549-1022 h / 301-982-1015 w dit dit From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:15:37 1996 From: vbook@vbook.com (Ed Mitchell) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: *** New Ten Tec 2 Meter XCVR Kit! *** Date: 9 Mar 1996 22:09:15 GMT Message-ID: <4hsvib$ef0@news.accessone.com> References: <1996Feb26.193601.12875@njitgw.njit.edu> <4h4tvd$alk@news.usit.net> <4h8ijc$9c8@news.accessone.com> <4hms0b$l0t@news2.acs.oakland.edu> In article <4hms0b$l0t@news2.acs.oakland.edu>, prvalko@saturn.acs.oakland.edu says... > >Ed Mitchell (vbook@vbook.com) wrote: > >: About $200. I just got the $95 20m to 6m transverter and have started work on >: it. Its a very nice kit. Not quite up to Heathkit standards but very close. > >Really. I thought is was slightly better than a Heathkit. The manual was >substantially easier to use as it is a ring binding and lays flat. No >Heathkit I ever built had test procedures after finishing sections of >the unit either. > >When asked, I ususally say that the Ten Tec 6M transverter is probably >the best $100 I've ever spent on a ham radio item. > >73 =paul= wb8zjl > I didn't mean to imply anything negative on the Ten-Tec kit. Maybe a better way is to say that there are "differences" between the Heathkit approach and the Ten-Tec approach. You are correct that Ten-Tec has some nice intermediate tests that Heath may have neglected - it kind of depends on which kits we probably built back in the old days. In any case, I enthusiastically endorse the Ten-Tec 6m transverter kit! I'm also glad to see a reputable company selling kits again. After I finish th e 6m xverter, I can see building another - in fact, I'm thinking of doing a join t project with my 8 1/2 year old daughter to assist her in building a SW receive r kit. I've had her helping me with component placement and soldering and she's loving it! Kind of exciting for Dad to see one of the kids getting into this too. Ed, KF7VY ------------------------ personal email to vbook@vbook.com Visit Ham Radio Online, it's free, at http://www.accessone.com/~vbook/hronline.htm From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:15:38 1996 From: HWDX09A@prodigy.com (Robert Reed) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: **FS : WINDOW'95 CD UPGRADE $50 ** Date: 10 Mar 1996 16:37:46 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <4hv0gq$15fe@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> SUBJECT: ** FS : WINDOWS'95 CD UPGRADE $50 ** I have still available a few Windows '95 CD-ROM Upgrade kits. These are new, sealed, Microsoft Windows '95 CD-ROM Upgrade Kits received with a computer order that I don not intend to use with the computers they were received for. These kits include the manual, CD-ROM disk, software registration card, and Microsoft holographic Certificate of Authenticity. The price is $ 50.00 each shipped by 2nd Day Priority Mail. Send a check to : Robert Reed WB2DIN 538 Brewers Bridge Road Jackson, New Jersey 08527 TEL : (908) 363-2724 73, Bob, WB2DIN - ROBERT REED, WB2DIN HWDX09A@prodigy.com 538 Brewers Bridge Road Jackson, New Jersey 08527 PACKET WB2DIN@WT3V From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:15:40 1996 From: Robert Bissett Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 14100 kHz beacons Date: Sat, 09 Mar 1996 20:39:27 -0500 Message-ID: <314232CF.201F@monmouth.com> References: <313FA717.735B@algonet.se> To: Ingvar Eriksson Ingvar Eriksson wrote: > > Can anyone tell me what stations are involved in the 14100kHz beacon net? > Callsigns and timeslots etc. > It is interesting to listen to this frequency during the day and see how > condx are changing in various directions as time goes by. > > 73 de Ingvar/SM7DUZ (e-mail to ie@algonet.se much appreciated) Ingvar, I have not monitored the beacon freq for some time as here (about 30 miles from New York City) the packet interference is a bit too much to handle. Here is what it was: Beginning on the hour and every 10 minutes each station --100 watts to a vertical antenna--- Sends ID and then short carrier at 100 watts then 10 watts then 1 watt and finally 100 milliwatts. Then ID again at 100 watts . This is 24 hour operation. order of stations 00 minute 4U1UN/B 01 W6WX/B 02 KH6O/B 03 JA2IGY/B 04 4X6TU/B 05 OH2B 06 CT3B 07 ZS6DN/B 08 LU4AA/B 09 HK4LR/B There may have been changes. I have never heard the last two, probably because of the local nterference. Goog luck. Bob ND2L -- ********* Bob Bissett rbissett@monmouth.com ********* From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:15:41 1996 From: cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Christopher K Greenhalgh) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 3894.5 Date: 7 Mar 1996 16:56:24 GMT Message-ID: <4hn4fo$dm1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <4hmsv9$d2h@huron.eel.ufl.edu> In article <4hmsv9$d2h@huron.eel.ufl.edu>, john p. sumner wrote: > Who are these clowns on this freq.? all i hear all nite is porkbutt and > people trying to jam each other big time what a bunch of jerks. > >John P. Sumner >afn29443@afn.org I believe their names are Drew and Burt. Someone told me once that they are Father & Son. Take care. -- Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT Computer/Electronic Tech. II at The Ohio State University E-Mail: ckg+@osu.edu (cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) Radio : n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:15:42 1996 From: VUBS79A@prodigy.com (Drew Durigan) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 3894.5 Date: 8 Mar 1996 03:39:26 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <4hoa5e$i4e@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: <4hmsv9$d2h@huron.eel.ufl.edu> afn29443@afn.org (john p. sumner) wrote: > >-- > Who are these clowns on this freq.? all i hear all nite is porkbutt and > people trying to jam each other big time what a bunch of jerks. Me, too. And I thought only no-coders were responsible for this kind of thing. I mean, here these guys have at least 13WPM..."real hams", in other words, and yet they're some of the worst scum to be found on the amateur bands. Imagine that! -Drew in Sunny Central Florida- KF4DDM From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:15:43 1996 From: VUBS79A@prodigy.com (Drew Durigan) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 3894.5 Date: 10 Mar 1996 04:20:12 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <4htl9s$1lgk@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: <4hmsv9$d2h@huron.eel.ufl.edu> <4hoa5e$i4e@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> <4htcde$jnk@onramp.freeway.net> pmarkham@sun.lssu.edu (Peter C. Markham) wrote: > >In article <4hoa5e$i4e@useneta1.news.prodigy.com>, > VUBS79A@prodigy.com (Drew Durigan) wrote: >>afn29443@afn.org (john p. sumner) wrote: >>> >>>-- >>> Who are these clowns on this freq.? all i hear all nite is porkbutt >>and >>> people trying to jam each other big time what a bunch of jerks. >> >> >>Me, too. And I thought only no-coders were responsible for this kind of >>thing. I mean, here these guys have at least 13WPM..."real hams", in >>other words, and yet they're some of the worst scum to be found on the >>amateur bands. Imagine that! >> >>-Drew in Sunny Central Florida- >> KF4DDM >> > >Without wasting my time listening to that which I despise, I get the >impression, from this posting, that you wish to piss with the big dogs, but >can only watch from the porch. Chances are, the "scum" earned the >privelege to be on that frequency, regardless of the "porkbutt" and "jam". Would you please explain to me how one goes about "earning the privilege" to cause malicious interference to other stations and use profanity? Both of these activities are clearly prohibited in Part 97 but commonly practiced on 3894.5. -Drew in Sunny Central Florida- KF4DDM From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:15:44 1996 From: Robert Bissett Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 3894.5 Date: Sat, 09 Mar 1996 20:13:03 -0500 Message-ID: <31422C9F.34E2@monmouth.com> References: <4hmsv9$d2h@huron.eel.ufl.edu> john p. sumner wrote: > > -- > Who are these clowns on this freq.? all i hear all nite is porkbutt and > people trying to jam each other big time what a bunch of jerks. > John P. Sumner > afn29443@afn.org I was told that 3894.5 was the National Tune-up and Test Frequency. Is that true? ND2L -- ********* Bob Bissett rbissett@monmouth.com ********* From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:15:45 1996 From: pmarkham@sun.lssu.edu (Peter C. Markham) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 3894.5 Date: Sun, 10 Mar 96 00:25:10 GMT Message-ID: <4ht7hu$hel@onramp.freeway.net> References: <4hoa5e$i4e@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> <4hqgt2$csq@jupiter.planet.net> In article <4hqgt2$csq@jupiter.planet.net>, adell@planet.net ( Steve - KF2TI) Landing, NJ wrote: Amen! From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:15:45 1996 From: j-dvoracek@tamu.edu (John Dvoracek) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: 50 mhz FM operating practices Date: 8 Mar 1996 07:01:50 GMT Message-ID: <4hom0u$3v1@news.tamu.edu> Does anyone know, or know where to look to find, 50 mhz FM operating practices? I have just put a commercial FM radio onto 50 mhz and need to learn about standard operating practices. I know about the national simplex frequency, but if you make contact, do you move up or down a standard amount to free the calling frequency? Since this radio is channelized and must be programmed off-line, I would like to put this information in ahead of time. Is there a 50 mhz repeater directory available online? I have been off the air quite some time, and would appreciate any help. tnx es cul de KE5C From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:15:46 1996 From: fwhitehurst@ezdial.com (David Whitehurst) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: 6 Meter DX/etc organizations/info Date: 8 Mar 1996 16:16:19 GMT Message-ID: <4hpmgj$csl@news.cais.com> Does anyone know of any 6Meter newsletters/organizations?? Any on the Web/internet ?? Tnx. N4ZGT David. From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:15:47 1996 From: Geoff Brown Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 6 Meter DX/etc organizations/info Date: 10 Mar 1996 17:12:27 GMT Message-ID: <4hv2hr$6tf@fhbgb1.itl.net> References: <4hppod$b7k@omnifest.uwm.edu> Try http://user.itl.net/~equinox There you will find daily dx reports re everything on 50MHz. Beacons, TV listings in fact everything from around the globe, and it's free. We also mail out Internet Six News each month via Email Geoff GJ4ICD From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:15:48 1996 From: raiar@inlink.com (Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr.) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 73 Magazine Begins Paying Last Years Authors Date: Wed, 06 Mar 1996 17:29:24 GMT Message-ID: <4hkhj0$5jo@news1.inlink.com> References: <313CF347.7966@telepath.com> Steve Sampson wrote: >I was shocked to find an envelope in my mailbox for an article I did a year a go >for 73. Nothing else was in the envelope besides a check, so I don't know wh y >they decided to begin paying authors again. Maybe they are cleaning up the b ooks >before selling, or possibly they found a new (ethical) Editor. >Go figure... Was it a single article or a regular column? TTUL Gary From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:15:48 1996 From: billj@calweb.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: a - where/when 1st ham repeater? Date: 9 Mar 1996 11:32:16 GMT Message-ID: <4hrq80$od6@news.calweb.com> References: <313F1037.7291@macshasta.com> <1996Mar8.184914.466@nad.com> I can't confirm the LA location of the first repeater but do know that there was an AM repeater in Reno Nevada (Mt. Rose) in late fifties or early sixties. It was in my garage at one time. Bill K7NOM From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:15:49 1996 From: landisj@nad.com (Joe Landis - Systems & Network Mgr) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: a - where/when 1st ham repeater? Message-ID: <1996Mar8.184914.466@nad.com> Date: 8 Mar 96 18:49:14 EST References: <313F1037.7291@macshasta.com> Distribution: world In article <313F1037.7291@macshasta.com>, jenglish wr ites: > Our local YL net entertains itself with a weekly amateur radio > "trivia" question. This week it is "where, when and near what famous > landmark was the first amateur radio repeater used?" > > Please leave your thoughts here, and also email to me at > jenglish@macshasta.com. > Thanks > Jane English KD6PCE Hi Jane, I believe it was in LA, in the late sixties and was 2M AM. Somebody want to confirm this? Joe - AA3GN -- Joe Landis - Systems and Network Manager - North American Drager - Telford, PA landisj@nad.com ..speaking only for myself, of course.. From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:15:50 1996 From: J_Towle@msn.com (Jeffrey Towle) Subject: RE: Airport/Aircraft Regulations Date: 11 Mar 96 06:39:04 -0800 References: <4hd526$7kp@news.one.net> Message-ID: <00001fef+0000415c@msn.com> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc John, The regulations against using handhelds on the aircraft are comparable to fears about walking under ladders, or stepping on cracks in the sidewalk. Unfortunately, the regulations have the weight of law once you step into the aircraft. Over the years, I've used 2-meter radios on commercial flights (after asking permission) and it is interesting, even if you only listen to the number of repeaters you can hear simultaneously. The basic problem is that airlines have lots of things to worry about, and if an aircraft did crash, and a ham was onboard using a radio, you can be sure than an attorney somewhere would say that it was the radio that caused the problem, or the airlines should have known about the radio (even if it had nothing whatever to do with problems). It is based on the same sort of science that says brain tumors result from using mobile phones. Jeff From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:15:51 1996 From: gilmore@mi.net (Gregory Gilmore) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: alt.ham-radio.dxing ?? Date: Sat, 09 Mar 1996 17:45:28 GMT Message-ID: <4hsfu1$4i3@scratchy.mi.net> References: <4hp8jb$i76@venus.texoma.com> Gary Stone wrote: >alt.ham-radio.dxing >Are others able to get this newsgroup or is this a fluke of my server or >..?? I'm unable to get it on my server here in New Brunswick, although there are some "alt.ham-radio" groups listed. 73 Greg. > /\__/\ Gary and Karen Stone (Gary N5PHT) > 0 0 E-Mail: garystone@texoma.com > @ or karenstone@texoma.com > (_/\_) Http://home.texoma.com/personal/garystone > ~~ Gregory Gilmore,VE1XH Keswick Ridge New Brunswick Canada gilmore@mi.net From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:15:52 1996 From: cliffd@zetnet.co.uk (Cliff Davies) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: alt.ham-radio.dxing ?? Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 13:08:53 GMT Message-ID: <4hs0v2$a7r@irk.zetnet.co.uk> References: <4hp8jb$i76@venus.texoma.com> In message <4hp8jb$i76@venus.texoma.com> Gary Stone writes: > alt.ham-radio.dxing > Are others able to get this newsgroup or is this a fluke of my server or > ..?? Yip, but not very active :-}}-- Cliff Life is --. .. ...-- .... -. -- From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:15:53 1996 From: Gary Stone Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: alt.ham-radio.dxing ?? Date: 8 Mar 1996 12:18:51 GMT Message-ID: <4hp8jb$i76@venus.texoma.com> I was doing a complete listing from my server a few days ago and this newsgroup is listed. I posted to the group with no problem. alt.ham-radio.dxing Are others able to get this newsgroup or is this a fluke of my server or ..?? 73 de N5PHT Gary -- /\__/\ Gary and Karen Stone (Gary N5PHT) 0 0 E-Mail: garystone@texoma.com @ or karenstone@texoma.com (_/\_) Http://home.texoma.com/personal/garystone ~~ From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:15:53 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: bd703@scn.org (SCN User) Subject: Amateur Radio Newsline. ( Looking for ). Message-ID: Reply-To: bd703@scn.org (SCN User) Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 00:50:22 GMT Can anyone tell me where I can find Newsline on the Web? The home page at ncsu usually has it but there haven't been any new postings since the end of January. I am specificly looking for the bulletin that came out on Feb. 23 1996. Thanks in advance Kerwin, N7JGW -- ***************************************************************************** * They know who you are... bd703@scn.org * They know where you live... * And there's no doubt about it! From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:15:55 1996 From: namor@panix.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: An ex ham: Date: 8 Mar 1996 03:13:30 GMT Message-ID: <4ho8kq$lc1@news1.panix.com> References: <4h4acv$i7v@news1.panix.com> I need to thank all of you who have written me, inviting me back into your wor ld. There is something with you folks that stirs up great nostalgic memories. If I may, I'll share one with you. I was young. Young young young. I had a bent dipole on the roof of my apartment building...I think it stretched into forever on each leg. I remember evenings when I would key my transmitter, run to the roof with a port able radio and a flourescent bulb, turn on WQXR, and wave my "wand", now lit with R F, as I conducted my orchestra, alone, a lunatic ham let loose in the dark of nig ht. Anyway, I haven't thought of these things in years. I've linked all the amatue r radio newsgroups on my site under the section of "Search Engines and other Wondrous Sites" Thanks again for the invites. Time truly prevents me from getting back into it at this moment. 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FAX: 212-221-3512 E-mail to: namor@panix.com or webmaster@tyler-adam.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:15:56 1996 From: jimf@zoinks.corp.sgi.com (Jim Fellows) Newsgroups: sci.astro.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,misc.invest.technical,misc.invest.stocks,misc.invest.funds,misc.invest.canada Subject: Re: Announsing: Technology Patent Available For Purchase Date: 4 Mar 1996 22:30:15 GMT Message-ID: <4hfqtn$6kb@murrow.corp.sgi.com> References: <4hdlvj$kvv@sun.sirius.com> To: gherbst@msn.com In article , gherbst@msn.com writes: |> Paul, |> |> That's a very blatent claim you make. This patent went through with only |> one need for clarification from the PTO. Obviously know one else sought |> such a patent which is evidence by the PTO issuing me patent # 5457342. |> |> Those companies you mention have devices that are similar with respect to |> cooling only if you care to follow the patents mentioned on my abstract. |> However, NONE have developed the device I have NOR do they have a patent |> on such a device. As such, I am the sole owner to pursue development of |> this product or companies under infringement. |> |> Gaerhardt G. Herbst |> What I am wondering is what this has anything to do with amateur radio antenna s, homebrew, space, etc.? The point is that this, and the preceding posts were made to the amateur radio news groups. Cooling of microprocessors, and your grandstanding of being awarded a patent a re of no interest to me or in any way pertinent to my interest in amateur radio. And that is why the newsgroup(s) have those titles. If you are looking for invetors, get a clue and do it somewhere else. If you are simply so proud of yourself for being awarded a patent for what appears to be anothers work, then HIP HIP HOORAY for you! Now grow up and go away. Jim From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:15:58 1996 From: paul@laughton.com (Paul Laughton) Newsgroups: sci.astro.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,misc.invest.technical,misc.invest.stocks,misc.invest.funds,misc.invest.canada Subject: Re: Announsing: Technology Patent Available For Purchase Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 06:50:20 GMT Message-ID: <4hgo64$o5n@sun.sirius.com> References: <4hdlvj$kvv@sun.sirius.com> Reply-To: paul@laughton.com gherbst@msn.com wrote: >Paul, >That's a very blatent claim you make. This patent went through with only >one need for clarification from the PTO. Obviously know one else sought >such a patent which is evidence by the PTO issuing me patent # 5457342. >Those companies you mention have devices that are similar with respect to >cooling only if you care to follow the patents mentioned on my abstract. >However, NONE have developed the device I have NOR do they have a patent >on such a device. As such, I am the sole owner to pursue development of >this product or companies under infringement. >Gaerhardt G. Herbst I am sorry if my statement upset you. It is just that I have seen so many patents issued for which there is substantial prior art. Usually, no one bothers to dispute these patents unless the patent holder attempts to assert his or her 'rights.' Then it is a matter of who has the most bucks to give to lawyers. The only people that really win in these case are the lawyers. I really do not know the details of your patent and what your claims are. I just know that cooling of IC's has been used for many years to stabilize ICs against environemental changes. Besides IBM, Amdahl, etc, there are numerous military applications of the technique. Closer to home, in the world of CCD imaging we have had TE cooled and requlated ICs for many years. The cooling of CCDs is used 1) to lower the thermoelectic noise and 2) keep the noise (a function of temperature) at a constant value (via feedback regulation). The fact that no one else has attempted to patent this idea is probably due to fact of its total lack of novelty. On the other hand, since I can not imagine what you did come up with that is novel in this arena, maybe you really do have something that is unique and of value. In any case, good luck. -Paul From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:15:59 1996 From: jfsawyer@freewave.com (Jonathan sawyer) Newsgroups: sci.astro.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,misc.invest.technical,misc.invest.stocks,misc.invest.funds,misc.invest.canada Subject: Re: Announsing: Technology Patent Available For Purchase Date: Thu, 07 Mar 96 04:16:53 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <4hlv15$18f@news-2.csn.net> References: <4hg97g$fef@cloner3.netcom.com> gherbst@msn.com wrote: > >> Correct you Charles. >> >> Gerhardt G. Herbst >> >Whoops...I mean correct you are Charles... > >Gerhardt > In 1982 I put a Peltier Cooler on a 8087 coprocessor in an IBM computer in an effort to speed up the clock. I had a PC board made and along with schematics and documentation. This progressed into modules for 80287's. In fact I hold the record for the highest speed attained using a 80287 in an IBM AT computer by cooling the 80287 down to -50 deg C. I therefore have prior documented art on this invention and demand all royatie s should be sent to me. Jonathan Sawyer FreeWave Technolgies From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:00 1996 From: paul@laughton.com (Paul Laughton) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc,sci.astro.amateur Subject: Re: Announsing: Technology Patent Available For Purchase Date: Wed, 06 Mar 1996 06:17:48 GMT Message-ID: <4hjal5$l7r@sun.sirius.com> References: <4hgr8o$p96@sun.sirius.com> <1996Mar5.113206.460@nad.com> Reply-To: paul@laughton.com landisj@nad.com (Joe Landis - Systems & Network Mgr) wrote: >In article <4hgr8o$p96@sun.sirius.com>, paul@laughton.com (Paul Laughton) wri tes: >> gherbst@msn.com wrote: >> >>>Paul, >> >>>That's a very blatent claim you make. This patent went through with only >>>one need for clarification from the PTO. Obviously know one else sought >>>such a patent which is evidence by the PTO issuing me patent # 5457342. >> >>>Those companies you mention have devices that are similar with respect to >>>cooling only if you care to follow the patents mentioned on my abstract. >>>However, NONE have developed the device I have NOR do they have a patent >>>on such a device. As such, I am the sole owner to pursue development of >>>this product or companies under infringement. >> >>>Gaerhardt G. Herbst >> >> Having too much time on my hands, I went and looked at your patent. >> The first part of the patent describes the exact CCD cooling method >> used for years by Santa Barbara Instruments (and others) for cooling >> CCDs. Your novel claim seems to be an IC cooler that is retrofitted to >> an existing, uncooled IC. >> >> >Are these the same Peltier(sp?) devices that you can pick up surplus from >places like Marlin P. Jones and Edmund Scientific for like $12.95? >Just curious, >Joe - AA3GN >-- >Joe Landis - Systems and Network Manager - North American Drager - Telford, P A >landisj@nad.com ..speaking only for myself, of course. . Yep. Peltier Junctions. Very Cool (or hot) devices! :-> -Paul From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:01 1996 From: paul@laughton.com (Paul Laughton) Newsgroups: sci.astro.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,misc.invest.technical,misc.invest.stocks,misc.invest.funds,misc.invest.canada Subject: Re: Announsing: Technology Patent Available For Purchase Date: Mon, 04 Mar 1996 02:54:14 GMT Message-ID: <4hdlvj$kvv@sun.sirius.com> References: Reply-To: paul@laughton.com gherbst@msn.com wrote: >Gerhardt G. Herbst II, is the patent holder for "Cold Spot Module". >This product is for sale to an individual or manufacturer. >The "Cold Spot Module" is used to effectively reduce the operating >temperature of integrated circuits such as computer CPUs to maintain >reliability under extreme operating conditions. This module is protected >under a U.S. Utility Patent issued in October of 1995. A Utility patent >provides the strongest protection under U.S. law. >An independent North American Market Study was done on the product and the >potential market has been identified. >The product has not yet been introduced to the general public but is referenc ed >in the U.S. Patent catalog which is posted periodically. For an on-line refer ence >refer to: >http://www.uspto.gov >Search on Patent Number: 5457342 >The title abstract is: Integrated circuit cooling apparatus >Note: A search on just the patent number will bring up the details. >Exclusive rights can be purchased reasonably with negotiable license term. >For further information, contact Gerhardt G. Herbst II. > Gerhardt G. Herbst II > 133 Wynstay > Valley Park, MO 63088 > Phone: (314) 861-0426 > E-mail: gherbst@msn.com I wonder how Mr Herbst slipped this one past the prior art investigation? This technology has been around since the early 70's - at least. For example, IBM and Amdahl main frames made extensive use of it. From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:02 1996 From: cjtutt@ix.netcom.com(Charles Tutt ) Newsgroups: sci.astro.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,misc.invest.technical,misc.invest.stocks,misc.invest.funds,misc.invest.canada Subject: Re: Announsing: Technology Patent Available For Purchase Date: 5 Mar 1996 02:34:24 GMT Message-ID: <4hg97g$fef@cloner3.netcom.com> References: In gherbst@msn.com writes: > >Paul, > >That's a very blatent claim you make. This patent went through with only >one need for clarification from the PTO. Obviously know one else sought >such a patent which is evidence by the PTO issuing me patent # 5457342. > >Those companies you mention have devices that are similar with respect to >cooling only if you care to follow the patents mentioned on my abstract. >However, NONE have developed the device I have NOR do they have a patent >on such a device. As such, I am the sole owner to pursue development of >this product or companies under infringement. > >Gaerhardt G. Herbst > I believe your final statement is too broad. You may "preclude others from practicing your invention" is closer to the correct formulation. From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:04 1996 From: Steve Phillips Newsgroups: sci.astro.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Announsing: Technology Patent Available For Purchase Date: Wed, 06 Mar 1996 06:41:49 -0500 Message-ID: <313D79FD.7E59@ibm.net> References: <4hdlvj$kvv@sun.sirius.com> <4hgr8o$p96@sun.sirius.com> Paul Laughton wrote: > Having too much time on my hands, I went and looked at your patent. > The first part of the patent describes the exact CCD cooling method > used for years by Santa Barbara Instruments (and others) for cooling > CCDs. Your novel claim seems to be an IC cooler that is retrofitted to > an existing, uncooled IC. > > I am not familiar with either this patent or this technology, so I cannot comment on specifics. But we all should remember that the only "part of the patent" that has much relevance to what the patent legally covers is the claims at the end. It is possible to have dozens, even hundreds of narrow patents validly cover different aspects or variations of the same technology. I've seen too many of these debates break down into nothing more than whether what is described in the title of a patent is valid in light of some prior art, which, BTW, can be a publication or sale of a device as well as a previous patent. The answer is almost completely irrelevant. Steve Phillips, stevejd@ibm.net (Although I am an attorney, this should not be considered legal advice.) From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:05 1996 Newsgroups: sci.astro.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,misc.invest.technical,misc.invest.stocks,misc.invest.funds,misc.invest.canada Subject: Re: Announsing: Technology Patent Available For Purchase Message-ID: From: frederick.mckenzie-1@kmail.ksc.nasa.gov (Fred McKenzie) Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 17:29:01 -0500 References: In article , gherbst@msn.com wrote: > That's a very blatent claim you make. This patent went through with only > one need for clarification from the PTO. Obviously know one else sought > such a patent which is evidence by the PTO issuing me patent # 5457342. Gaerhardt- I think some of us have jumped to the erroneous conclusion that your invention duplicates prior art. On the other hand, your statements do not clearly show how it is different from prior art. You are looking for investors to finance development of a product that on the surface, appears to be old technology. I suggest you revise your "sales pitch", so that it is clear that your invention is (a) new, and (b) of commercial value. In other words, why would one want to use your invention instead of existing spot-cooling techniques? 73, Fred, K4DII From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:06 1996 From: kb7et@usa.pipeline.com(Jim Sheffield) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: ARK QRP transceivers Date: 6 Mar 1996 18:54:03 GMT Message-ID: <4hkn0b$38j@news1.usa.pipeline.com> Hello: Have gotten the "bug" to try the 30M ARK QRP transceiver kit. Would appreciate comments on the radio and kit. They seem expensive - are they worth the $$$? 73 de Jim, KB7ET kb7et@usa.pipeline.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:07 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: ARLB013 Question pool committee Message-ID: <1996Mar7.155852.20477@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: <1996Feb28.170758.12180@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4h4n57$fa8$1@mhadg.production.compuserve.com> <3139372A.6790@iquest.com> <4hh8ud$t1a@cc.iu.net> <4hkigc$p2l@news.service.uci.edu> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 15:58:52 GMT In article <4hkigc$p2l@news.service.uci.edu> jwkelley@e4e.oac.uci.edu (James W . KELLEY) writes: >From the perspective of an "outsider", this problem appears to have been >created by some poor planning on the part of the NVEC. Their actions >cause one to suspect hidden agendas and ulterior motives. The last thing >we need is another private club attempting to guide the destiny of amateur >radio. You mean in *addition* to the ARRL? :-) Actually, I'd like to see some additional strong voices for the amateur community. A one party state isn't healthy. >On the other side, the ARRL's petition to the FCC is not unlike that of a >bickering old lady. While the legal basis for these particular requests >may have been the best approach available, seeking to censure VEC's for >their participation in the group seems to lack professional attitude. > >As an amateur radio operator, I find this debacle a personal >embarrassment. It's difficult not to find both parties at fault. I hope >that publicity of this problem does not find it's way to the general >public - bad enough we had to go tell the FCC on them. Yeah, there seems adequate blame to go around for all parties to this debacle. It appears to me that the ARRL has a hidden agenda here too. They didn't want to be put on an equal footing with other VECs. I don't believe for a second that their primary concern was for Mr. Jahnke's legal exposure. A corporation exists to *limit* personal liability. Mr. Jahnke was far more exposed participating in an *unincorporated* entity. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:08 1996 From: Scotty Neustadter Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: ARLB013 Question pool committee Date: Sun, 03 Mar 1996 00:08:07 -0600 Distribution: world Message-ID: <31393747.2E4D@iquest.com> References: <1996Feb28.170758.12180@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4h4n57$fa8$1@mhadg.production.compuserve.com> To: Hans Brakob <71111.260@CompuServe.COM> Hans Brakob wrote: > > Gary, > ARRL did not "gather up their marbles and go home". > Their marbles were confiscated and they were removed from > the game because they declined to pledge allegiance to NCVEC. > The question pool committee cannot be a committee restricted > only to members of the NCVEC, Inc. There is no agreement > between the FCC and the NCVEC, Inc. The agreements are > between the FCC and the individual organizations that serve > as VECs. The QPC is a child of FCC, not NCVEC, so NCVEC > cannot impose "conditions" on participation. The FCC rules > bind all VECs to cooperate in maintaining a question pool > for each written examination element. A few VECs, even a > majority of VECs, cannot unilaterally create a corporation > as a mechanism for maintaining the pools and then exclude > other VECs who do not choose to participate in that corporation. > ARRL is not alone in choosing to not participate in the > corporation, but even if they were, it would make no > difference. > By the way, since the question pools are public, there is no > particular advantage to a publisher to be on the committee. You > and I could publish study guides just as easily as ARRL or W5YI. > With your brains and my looks, we would corner the market. > > -- > 73, de Hans, K0HB > > --Support your local Amateur Radio clubs.The ARRL was never asked to "pledge allegiance" to NCVEC, they were invited to place a member on the board, they declined and asked NCVEC, Inc not to talk to their employees nor take any action that might imply that the ARRL was party to NCVEC. Given this edict from the ARRL, NCVEC had no choice but to sever its tied with the ARRL employee who was on the QPC 73 Scotty From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:09 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: ARLB013 Question pool committee Message-ID: <1996Mar9.154810.358@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: <1996Feb28.170758.12180@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4h4n57$fa8$1@mhadg.production.compuserve.com> <3139372A.6790@iquest.com> <4hh8ud$t1a@cc.iu.net> <4hkigc$p2l@news.service.uci.edu> <1996Mar7.155852.20477@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 15:48:10 GMT In article jrosenw@pgh.nauticom.net (Johnny) wri tes: >Parties cannot avoid partnership liability, even by expressly >declaring themselves otherwise, if the facts show that the >entity was in fact, a partnership. ie, they each share a >similar amount of responsibility, they each share a similar >amount of benefit, they each ... Ah, a *sham* corporation. I understand this concept. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:10 1996 From: sid@hal-pc.org Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: ARLB013 Question pool committee Date: 6 Mar 1996 22:04:54 GMT Message-ID: <4hl266$1hc@news.hal-pc.org> References: <4gqas7$k8r@news.hal-pc.org> OK you all, I'm impressed with everyones response. Both sides have make their point in a very professional manner, unlike the various CW debates. Could any of you get an "offical" response on this question from the ARRL and the NCVEC,inc.? Since, I am the one that started this thread, I propose that we get on "LAST" response from those in authority, then end this. I am sure both camps are aware of this discussion. It has been very interesting and informative. I don't know who is right, or i f there is a right position. I would be interested in reading an "offical" resp onse. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Sid George, CPA sid@hal-pc.org ._ _... ..... _.._ .._ http://www.hal-pc.org/~sid ------------------------------------- From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:11 1996 From: wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: ARLB013 Question pool committee Date: 11 Mar 1996 03:36:10 GMT Message-ID: <4i073a$ahj@cc.iu.net> References: <1996Feb28.170758.12180@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4h4n57$fa8$1@mhadg.production.compuserve.com> <31393747.2E4D@iquest.com> <4hs3qd$32d@anomaly.ideamation.com> Reply-To: wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) In <4hs3qd$32d@anomaly.ideamation.com>, kd1hz@anomaly.ideamation.com (Michael P. Deignan) writes: >A similar analogy would be if all the VECs joined a locally-incorporated >radio club. Does the radio club then have the authority to maintain the >question pools? The answer is, of course, no. Only the individually >recognized VECs do, cooperating together. The fact that the VECs are >still cooperating together is irrelevant, since the VECs are no longer the >legal entities that the work is being performed under. probably the right thing to have been created is a model similar to Aeronautic al Radio, Inc. - ARINC - where the airlines and other companies in the aviation b iz work out the standards and practices. the Radio Technical Commission on Aeronautics seems to be the body that handles things like enviromental specs (ratings for altitude, humidity, explosionproofness, etc.) so there'd be "Q-Pool Inc" that would have as members the VECs in the US. all VECs would support this central clearing house that would not have officia l standing with the government because the operating reason for Q-Pool would be to coordinate the VEC "underactivies" that need doing and coordination a central organization would provide but w/o the problems of having them report to the FCC as well. i can see a need for a body that will "outlive" the founders of the VE program . maybe it should have been top down instead of this "sideways" approach. Bill Newkirk WB9IVR The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group Melbourne, FL duty now for the future of amateur radio Lombardi's 1st Law of Business: Companies succeed in spite of their best effort. If they succeed at all. From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:12 1996 From: jwkelley@e4e.oac.uci.edu (James W. KELLEY) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: ARLB013 Question pool committee Date: 6 Mar 1996 17:37:16 GMT Message-ID: <4hkigc$p2l@news.service.uci.edu> References: <1996Feb28.170758.12180@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4h4n57$fa8$1@mhadg.production.compuserve.com> <3139372A.6790@iquest.com> <4hh8ud$t1a@cc.iu.net> From the perspective of an "outsider", this problem appears to have been created by some poor planning on the part of the NVEC. Their actions cause one to suspect hidden agendas and ulterior motives. The last thing we need is another private club attempting to guide the destiny of amateur radio. On the other side, the ARRL's petition to the FCC is not unlike that of a bickering old lady. While the legal basis for these particular requests may have been the best approach available, seeking to censure VEC's for their participation in the group seems to lack professional attitude. As an amateur radio operator, I find this debacle a personal embarrassment. It's difficult not to find both parties at fault. I hope that publicity of this problem does not find it's way to the general public - bad enough we had to go tell the FCC on them. KE6JPO From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:13 1996 From: w1aw@arrl.org Newsgroups: rec.radio.info,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: ARLD014 DX news Date: 7 Mar 1996 17:44:47 -0500 Message-ID: <$arld014.1996@arrl.org> SB DX @ ARL $ARLD014 ARLD014 DX news ZCZC AE56 QST de W1AW DX Bulletin 14 ARLD014 From ARRL Headquarters Newington CT March 7, 1996 To all radio amateurs SB DX ARL ARLD014 ARLD014 DX news This week's bulletin was made possible with info provided by Mauro, I1JQJ, Johnny, LA5IIA, Morten, LA9GY, Uwe, DL9GOA, Tedd, KB8NW, the OPDX Bulletin and Contest Corral from QST. Thanks to all. TONGA, A3. Morten, LA9GY, will operate from Tonga March 16 to April 4, including action in the CQ WW WPX contest. He hopes to secure use of the call A35GY. Morten prefers CW but will operate some SSB. QSL via LA9GY. VIETNAM, 3W. Nikolay, UA0FM, continues to keep 3W5FM on the air daily from 1400z on 7005 kHz CW and from 1530z on 7045 kHz SSB. These skeds are with Sergey, UA0WY, running the list. QSL direct to PO Box 66, Vladimir, 600011, Russia. SVALBARD, JW. LA5VK, LA7XJA and LA1BJA will sign JW5VK, JW7XJA and JW1BJA respectively, March 7 to 11 on all bands with CW, SSB and RTTY. QSL via LA5VK. WESTERN SAHARA. EA3NY plans to operate in the CQWW SSB WPX contest March 30 and 31 on 80 through 10 meters, probably as S01EA. SOMALIA, T5. I4LCK and IK4SDY will be active from Majo Island, IOTA AF-052, March 27 to April 3 on 160 through 10 meters with 500 watts to vertical and dipole antennas. FALKLAND ISLANDS, VP8. DA4RG, will sign VP8BPZ from mid-May to mid-September. He plans to operate SSB only, not nets or lists. QSL via GW8VHI or DA4RG. MYANMAR, XZ. According to Wayne, KF7AY, things still look very promising for the April XZ1N DXpedition, though some regulatory matters between the Myanmar military and related ministries need to be ironed out. Word from Yangon is encouraging, however. THIS WEEKEND ON THE RADIO. Check out the Cadiz Silver Cup Contest and the Wisconsin QSO Party. Rules for both events appear on page 97 of March QST. NNNN /EX From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:15 1996 From: Steve Butler Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Call Letters? Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 09:41:22 -0800 Message-ID: References: On Mon, 4 Mar 1996, Afm Info wrote: > Is there any place on the internet where I can get a call letter database? > (for free would be nice!) ftp.fcc.gov/pub/XFS_AlphaTest/amateur/*.zip +----------------------------------------------------+ | Steve Butler Voice: 206-464-2998 | | The Seattle Times Fax: 206-382-8898 | | PO Box 70 Internet: sbut-is@seatimes.com | | Seattle, WA 98111 Packet: KG7JE@N6EQZ.WA | +----------------------------------------------------+ All standard and non-standard disclaimers apply. All other sources are annonymous. From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:15 1996 From: Keith Beebe Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Call Letters? Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 18:20:24 -0500 Message-ID: <314363B8.17DB@epix.net> References: Steve Butler wrote: > > On Mon, 4 Mar 1996, Afm Info wrote: > > > Is there any place on the internet where I can get a call letter database? > > (for free would be nice!) > > Take a look at the following: http://www.ualr.edu/doc/hamualr/callsign.html 73 de Keith KV3J From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:17 1996 From: pklein@news.seattleu.edu (Peter A. Klein) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Code = Outdated = YE OLDE FAHRTZ Date: 7 Mar 1996 10:35:08 -0800 Message-ID: <4hna8s$9fb@handel.seattleu.edu> References: <4h7f57$1fso@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <1996Mar3.104411.115251@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> <4he7dd$939@handel.seattleu.edu> <4hk0sd$9lf@anomaly.ideamation.com> In article <4hk0sd$9lf@anomaly.ideamation.com>, Michael P. Deignan wrote: >In article <4he7dd$939@handel.seattleu.edu>, > Peter A. Klein wrote: >>How about the fact that time and time again, in large-scale emergency >>situations, cellular systems are overloaded by the public and/or fail >>because of the emergency itself? >Any public safety organization worth its salt is no longer relying on >cellular for emergency communications and will have many backup plans. >>Or that the sheriff's repeater often >>doesn't quite reach into the remote mountain valley where a hiker >>incoveniently fell off the trail. >These scenarios are the exception rather than the norm. Should we waste >Mhz of valuable spectrum worth billions for a handful of examples? No, >we shouldn't. Sell the spectrum. OK, I'm sold. At 2:00 AM tomorrow, you will be visited by a delegation of National Guard troops, headed by the nearest freshman Republican congressman and the regional heads of your local Baby Bell and cellular provider. Your license and equipment will be confiscated. You will not be compensated, because your use of them was based on a discredited government giveaway. Furthermore, you will be charged, retroactively and at current cellular rates, for all your previous use of the former ham spectrum. :-) Seriously though, it sounds like you are advocating the immediate end of ham radio. Define "waste." The international community still thinks it's a good idea to have amateur radio around for a variety of reasons. Public service and emergency communications is only one. Read Part 97 for the U.S. interpretations. 73, Peter - KD7MW --- -- Peter A. Klein (pklein@seattleu.edu) : -----==3== --- --- Information Services, 5569 : | | | | | | | | Seattle University : @| @| @| @| @| @| @| @| From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:18 1996 From: mjsilva@ix.netcom.com(michael silva) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Code = Outdated = YE OLDE FAHRTZ Date: 4 Mar 1996 05:56:47 GMT Message-ID: <4he0mv$h5v@cloner4.netcom.com> References: <4h7f57$1fso@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> In <4h7f57$1fso@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> VUBS79A@prodigy.com (Drew Durigan) writes: > >Kind of says it all, doesn't it? In that case your "all" isn't very much, is it? Not that anyone is surprised... 73, Mike, KK6GM From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:19 1996 From: padrino@ix.netcom.com(David Fields ) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Commercial Repeaters {Q} Date: 3 Mar 1996 04:25:45 GMT Message-ID: <4hb709$456@reader2.ix.netcom.com> References: <9@pplace.win.net> Cona person just go to the Ham Radio Supply Store and buy a commercially manufactured repeater? I understant these would probably be quite expencive, but not all of us are technically minded or interested in tinkering. I am mainly interested in 440m and UHF bands for this "open" repeater. My immediate area has only 2 repeaters serving it, and I am interested in sett9ing up a third with autopatch capabilities. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Dave From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:19 1996 From: guess@who.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Definition: CB extra class Date: 8 Mar 1996 17:35:35 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <4hpr57$eer@chnews.ch.intel.com> A person who is too lazy to make an effort to learn morse code. From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:20 1996 From: adell@planet.net ( Steve - KF2TI) Landing, NJ Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: DX REFLECTOR HELP Date: 6 Mar 1996 12:30:02 GMT Message-ID: <4hk0ga$28r@jupiter.planet.net> References: <4hjuqd$cmt@tilde.csc.ti.com> > Joe Fitter BV/N0IAT writes: > > Hi, > I subscribed to the dx reflector, received 2 days of email > and now nothing is being delivered. How do I subscribe > again (deleted that old message....)? Or anyone know a > contact in charge of the email DX reflector? > > thanks, Joe > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Amateur Radio: BV/N0IAT Taipei TAIWAN Republic of China > > ex. 7J1AOF (Japan) YU3/N0IAT (Slovenia) KA0ZDH (Novice) > Licensed Radio Amateur since 1986. Comments are mine only. > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > >>>> Joe, the DX reflector was down for several days due to a computer glitch by now you shud be rec'vg postings 73, steve BTW, I need taiwan lets set up a sked From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:22 1996 From: wday@dfw.net (Wayne Day) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: DX Usenet?? Date: Wed, 06 Mar 1996 09:42:12 -0600 Message-ID: References: <31387FA1.1978@texoma.com> In article <31387FA1.1978@texoma.com>, Gary Stone wrote : > Several months back I remember someone going through the process of > trying to get a usenet for DX only. Does anyone know what became of > this? > It seems there never was a formal proposal for a DX newsgroup put up to the community. 73 Wayne KF5ZC ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne Day KF5ZC Fort Worth,Texas,USA kf5zc@amsat.org | CompuServe: 76703,376 76703.376@CompuServe.Com | ,__o wday@dfw.net |--\_<, Member: Bicycle Mobile Hams of America (*)/'(*) For info on BMHA or the BIKEHAM mailing list: Finger KF5ZC@dfw.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:22 1996 From: "Dr. Malcolm A. Williamson" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Expanding Kenwood TM702E Date: 9 Mar 1996 12:16:04 GMT Message-ID: <4hrsq4$7vr@eiger.pncl.co.uk> Does anyone know of any mods available to expand the Kenwood TM702E receive functions? Dr. Malcolm A. Williamson (Ph.D) mitch1@pncl.co.uk From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:23 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: sufana@ceco.ceco.com (Charles R. Sufana) Subject: FCC rules for cordless phones Message-ID: Reply-To: sufana@ceco.ceco.com Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 16:09:42 GMT Does anyone know what FCC rule governs cordless phones? I have been asked by a lawyer who is on some case that an Indiana law is being used that lists "Citizen Radio Service Channel" in the wording. I think this might be something with cordless phones or perhaps Citizen Band radio (I don't know what FCC ruling that is under either). Thanks in advance. 73s, Charlie Sufana AJ9N Internet sufana@ceco.ceco.com (preferred) tsdys@ccmail.ceco.com (secondary) ComEd - A Div. of Unicom (formerly Commonwealth Edison Co.) Work address: ComEd, System Protection Dept. 1039E, 125 S. Clark St., P.O. Box 767, Chicago, Il. 60690 Work phone: (312) 394-2815, work fax: (312) 394-4583 Who are you going to call? Fault busters! From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:24 1996 From: bsmyth@warwick.net (B.SMYTH) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: FOR SALE Date: Mon, 04 Mar 96 01:12:26 GMT Message-ID: <4hdg1q$1n0_002@warwick.net.host.warwick.net> ICOM IC281H mobil 2 meter Kenwood TH-22AT 2 meter HT Both new condition&Hardly used E-MAIL for info From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:25 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: jlowman@netcom.com (Jim Lowman) Subject: GROL exam software? Message-ID: Reply-To: jlowman@iepsnet.com Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 17:29:17 GMT Is there software for administering sample exams for the GROL available on the Net, WWW, or otherwise for sale? Also, what is the current date for the GROL question pool? Thanks in advance, Jim - KF6CR San Bernardino, CA From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:26 1996 From: rickhz@primenet.com (Rick) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: HamDaze at the Arizona Science Center Date: 9 Mar 1996 15:54:01 -0700 Message-ID: <4ht269$t3k@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Special Event Information HamDaze at Arizona Science Center: The Center for Amateur Radio Learning (C.A .R.L.) will be hosting HamDaze Weekend March 23-24, Several Phoenix area radio clubs will be setting up hands-on demonstrations and exhibits. Amateur Television, an HF station and a two way laser communications device will be just some of the attractions at the event. A test session will be available for the No-Code Technician License at 10:00 a.m. on Saturday March 23. Visitors to ASC will be able to make radio contacts unde r the supervision of licensed volunteer operators. The Arizona Science Center is loc ated at 147 E. Adams. The hours are Saturday 9 - 5:00pm and Sunday 12 - 5:00. Adults $ 4.50 Seniors and 4-12 yrs old $3.50, 3yrs and less are free. For details call 561-8 405. From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:26 1996 From: John Harden Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: HF Weatherfax Software for Mac? Date: 8 Mar 1996 12:09:09 GMT Message-ID: <4hp816$5up@sleipnir.iaccess.com.au> Hi there, Does anyone know where I can find Macintosh versions of HF SSB Weatherfax software? I require it for a friend who is about to embark on a 6 month Pacific voyage. Thanks for your help. John Harden From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:27 1996 From: Bob Duer Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.swap Subject: Hr2600 MODS Date: 7 Mar 1996 20:45:34 GMT Message-ID: <4hnhte$30@ohnasn01.sinet.slb.com> Need to know if there are freq. mods for the HR2600 just as there is for the HR2510. If there is and they are available a copy or location to get them would be appreciated. Thanks, bob From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:29 1996 From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: I love you all Date: Sat, 09 Mar 1996 11:53:06 -0500 Message-ID: <3141B772.7D3D@ccsnet.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------F5666162D70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -- #================#=====================================================#| Bur t Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | | Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | | K1OIK | If you sit on the fence, it is a pain in the butt | #================#=====================================================#| k1oik@ccsnet.com | #======================================================================#You ca nnot build a reputation on what you are going to do. Henry Ford --------------F5666162D70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Hamrules" Ham operator Jokes: 1. What is the thinnest book in the world? What hams know about women. 2. How does a ham take a bubble bath? He eats beans for dinner. 3. What's a ham's idea of foreplay? A half hour of contesting. 4. How can you tell if a ham is sexually excited? If he's still breathing. 5. How many hams does it take to change a roll of toilet paper? We don't know...it has never happened. 6. What's a ham's idea of helping with the housework? Lifting his leg so you can vacuum. 7. What does a ham consider a seven course meal? A hot dog and a six pack of beer.  --------------F5666162D70-- From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:30 1996 From: pmarkham@sun.lssu.edu (Peter C. Markham) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: isc...Renters .... Buy a Home with No $$ Downisc Date: Sun, 10 Mar 96 13:40:38 GMT Message-ID: <4hum5h$2em@onramp.freeway.net> References: <4hrgld$5tl@taurus.adnc.com> In article <4hrgld$5tl@taurus.adnc.com>, iscmiramar_a@ppp.com(iscMiramar Associates) wrote: >W> >NEW HOME - What may be the most fantastic government give-away began >in March 1994 > MIRAMAR ROAD ASSOCIATES > 6920 Miramar Road Ste. 207 > San Diego, CA 92121.2641 May all your children be born dead. Pitching your snake oil to this newsgroup marks you as another predator, of the worst order. If you want to hunt, hunt your children, and do humanity a favour. Pete From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:31 1996 From: jbaltz@news.cs.columbia.edu (Jerry B. Altzman) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: KING TV (Seattle) attacks ham Date: 3 Mar 1996 13:53:54 -0500 Message-ID: <4hcps2$5t8@tune.cs.columbia.edu> References: In article , Bruce Miller wrote: >Following two message are provided for possible followup by those of us >who might be willing to let KING TV know they are doing sloppy and unfair >journalism. KING TV News (in Seattle) fax number is 206-448-4525. Maybe Drew knows someone who can put a pin through their coax... //jbaltz -- jerry b. altzman Entropy just isn't what it used to be +1 212 650 5617 jbaltz@cs.columbia.edu jbaltz@scisun.sci.ccny.cuny.edu KE3ML From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:33 1996 From: cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Christopher K. Greenhalgh) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: KING TV (Seattle) attacks ham Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 21:18:00 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <4hcps2$5t8@tune.cs.columbia.edu> <4hj172$9q0@news.accessone.com> <4hke4p$jmm@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> In article <4hke4p$jmm@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> VUBS79A@prodigy.com (Drew Du rigan) writes: >I find it fascinating and, quite frankly, funny as hell that this entire >thread has disintegrated into a totally off-topic discussion about Drew >and tower pulling, coax pinning, etc. All of this, even though you >haven't heard a peep out of me on this thread. True, but drew has condoned these illegal activities in the past, hence, when people hear of these juvenile actions...they think of someone who practices/condones these activities. >I am quite flattered to know that all of you, especially my old pals Mr. >Greenhalgh and Mr. Deignan, think about me frequently and continue to >include me in their posts, even when I'm not around. Gee, guys, I had no >idea I was that big of an influence on your lives! :-) Reckon it to seeing a very funny and ignorant clown at the circus. If he humor s you greatly, you remember him, and reminisce when somebody cites similar situations...so we can all laugh all over again. Nothing wrong with enjoying humor. :) Doesnt suprise me that drew is flattered tho... >You're welcome, Nobody said "thank you". Take care all. Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT Computer/Electronic Tech. II at The Ohio State University E-Mail: ckg+@osu.edu (cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) Radio : n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:34 1996 From: kd1nr@anomaly.ideamation.com (Tony Pelliccio) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: KING TV (Seattle) attacks ham Date: 9 Mar 1996 21:28:45 -0500 Message-ID: <4hteot$3li@anomaly.ideamation.com> References: <4hcps2$5t8@tune.cs.columbia.edu> <4hj172$9q0@news.accessone.com> <4hke4p$jmm@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> In article <4hke4p$jmm@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com>, Drew Durigan wrote: >I find it fascinating and, quite frankly, funny as hell that this entire >thread has disintegrated into a totally off-topic discussion about Drew >and tower pulling, coax pinning, etc. All of this, even though you >haven't heard a peep out of me on this thread. > >I am quite flattered to know that all of you, especially my old pals Mr. >Greenhalgh and Mr. Deignan, think about me frequently and continue to >include me in their posts, even when I'm not around. Gee, guys, I had no >idea I was that big of an influence on your lives! :-) > > >You're welcome, > >-Drew in Sunny Central Florida- > KF4DDM Drew, You have to admit that on occasion you've taken the rather drastic approach. And every now and then R.R.A.M. needs a mascot and you've been tagged for this round. Past mascots include Todd Little N9MWB and in some cases Dana Myers who's been noticably absent as of late. As for Sunny Central Florida - ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Next time I go down to visit my parents we can go coax pinning. :) Tony > > -- == Tony Pelliccio, KD1NR == As offensive as I wanna be. == kd1nr@anomaly.ideamation.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:35 1996 From: VUBS79A@prodigy.com (Drew Durigan) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: KING TV (Seattle) attacks ham Date: 6 Mar 1996 16:22:49 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <4hke4p$jmm@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> References: <4hcps2$5t8@tune.cs.columbia.edu> <4hj172$9q0@news.accessone.com> I find it fascinating and, quite frankly, funny as hell that this entire thread has disintegrated into a totally off-topic discussion about Drew and tower pulling, coax pinning, etc. All of this, even though you haven't heard a peep out of me on this thread. I am quite flattered to know that all of you, especially my old pals Mr. Greenhalgh and Mr. Deignan, think about me frequently and continue to include me in their posts, even when I'm not around. Gee, guys, I had no idea I was that big of an influence on your lives! :-) You're welcome, -Drew in Sunny Central Florida- KF4DDM From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:37 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: ag368@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Mark Boyer) Subject: Re: KING TV Unfair to Seattle Ham. Message-ID: Reply-To: ag368@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Mark Boyer) References: <4h5r5o$6um@cloner4.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 3 Mar 1996 06:08:09 GMT Glenn Burks (glenndb@ix.netcom.com) writes: > In bd703@scn.org (SCN User) writes: >> >> >>Earlier this week, KING TV in Seattle did a story about several > neighbors in the Magnolia district who have been getting interference to various items of home electronic equipment ( tv, radio, cordless phone , alarm > system >>snip>> >>The TV people did not arrange to do a fair interview with Erckenbrack; > >>instead the crew showed up on his doorstep and did a confrontational >>interview through the front door. >>snip>> >>The story was really slanted in favor of the complainers. I wonder >>if perhaps someone in the neighborhood has ties to KING TV ? >> >> >>Kerwin, N7JGW >>-- >>********************************************************************** > Let KING TV know how you feel about unfair and baised reporting. > > kingtv@king5.com > Never let it be said that the media ever let the facts get in the way of a good story. It would be nice for journalists to get out of the gutter and start reporting/investigating news instead of trying to make it/fabricate it. One of the defeated Conservative government members (the national party now has 2 seats out of 215 or so that's how much they were hated in the last election) was once heard to comment while in power "the media should stop trying to find news stories and report on what the government gives them". Pretty scary. y .02 cents -- Mark Boyer VE3MJB ag368@freenet.carleton.ca HELP, HELP we're twapped in a Dash 8 going wound and wound. A day in the life at uAmps R us. From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:38 1996 From: donrm@sr.hp.com (Don Montgomery) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: KING TV Unfair to Seattle Ham. Date: 4 Mar 1996 22:30:55 GMT Message-ID: <4hfquv$48l@canyon.sr.hp.com> References: SCN User (bd703@scn.org) wrote: > The station in question is operated by Extra class Gene Erckenbrack, W7VY. What goes around, comes around. W7VY was probably set up by a dis- gruntled rare DX station that Gene QRMed in a pileup. Those who are familiar with this guy's DX operating practices know what I'm talking about. ...my opinions... Don K6LTS donrm@sr.hp.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:39 1996 From: VUBS79A@prodigy.com (Drew Durigan) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: KING TV Unfair to Seattle Ham. Date: 6 Mar 1996 16:25:27 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <4hke9n$1s2g@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> References: <4hk3ja$ggh@news.asu.edu> Hey, this is the 90's. If you seriously believe that the TV station was unfair and showed you in an unfavorable light, do what everyone else does. Sue, sue, sue! A sympathetic jury will award you millions in "punitive damages" since you were obviously wronged by the "big, bad corporation" (TV station with deep pockets, in other words) -Drew in Sunny Central Florida- KF4DDM From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:39 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: brucem@eskimo.com (Bruce Miller) Subject: Re: KING TV Unfair to Seattle Ham. Message-ID: References: <4h67ud$edj@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 20:15:56 GMT kingtv@king5.com stransmann@aol.com (Stransmann) writes: >My thoughts exactly! Maybe we should have an e-mail letter-writing >campaign going against KING TV. Perhaps if they were informed of the >public service work we hams engage in, they would offer us equal time on >the news (Our Top Story tonight - Magnolia neighbors jump to conclusions). >Does anyone know KING's on-line address? From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:40 1996 From: wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: KING TV Unfair to Seattle Ham. Date: 11 Mar 1996 03:52:20 GMT Message-ID: <4i081k$bib@cc.iu.net> References: <4h5r5o$6um@cloner4.netcom.com> Reply-To: wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) In , ag368@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Mark Boyer) wr ites: >It would be nice for journalists to get out of the gutter and start >reporting/investigating news instead of trying to make it/fabricate it. you mean like the two Florida Today reporters who have been found to have entered a crime scene (murder) and removed materials from the site w/o permission or supervision? apparently, they'll get off "because the material they removed was not of consequence" in the investigation...and then the court indicated that the police needed to use the returned material to further their case against the people who beat a man to death a short while ago... there's a possibility they'll even get their jobs back. Bill Newkirk WB9IVR The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group Melbourne, FL duty now for the future of amateur radio Lombardi's 1st Law of Business: Companies succeed in spite of their best effort. If they succeed at all. From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:41 1996 From: raki@metronet.com (Glenn Johnson (KB5VQI)) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: LATEST HAM WEB SITES Date: Sat, 09 Mar 1996 17:44:14 GMT Message-ID: <4hsg1v$m7l@feenix.metronet.com> References: <4g1un4$qbs@ionews.ionet.net> <4g5isg$9be@news.ecn.bgu.edu> My page with local DFW, Texas information and weather links at: http://www.metronet.com/~raki/kb5vqi.html **************************************************** Raki - Glenn Johnson - KB5VQI - Fort Worth Texas USA HM - raki@metronet.com WK - glenn.johnson@ast.com WWW - http://www.metronet.com/~raki/raki.html From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:42 1996 From: pvandereijk@worldbank.org (Paul van der Eijk) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: LOGGING SOFTWARE Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 18:35:25 GMT Message-ID: <4hnan0$q@minerva.worldbank.org> References: <4g40hq$gsl@news1.goodnet.com> <312881F8.2BEB@csg.mot.com> Paul Moller wrote: >Roland S Geter PhD wrote: >> >> There are really two software packages that I use and find very >> fantastic. >> >> KENTROL is a really great transceiver controlling software package that >> currently does not have logging but will presently. Get it at >> brian@synapse.net. >> >Is there a nice windoze based radio controlling program for Yeasu? >Paul_Moller@csg.mot.com Check out http://www.erols.com/pvander Specs, screen shots and DEMO you can download From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:43 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: tomz@premier1.net (Tom Zoch) Subject: Low cost CW on 2M? Message-ID: Reply-To: zoch@data-io.com Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 02:53:38 GMT I just received my tech license and know there is alot of room for CW in the 2M band but the only new equipment that caries a reasonable price tag is for FM. I would like to know of any reasonably priced CW rigs (new or used) for this band or 6M. I would also like to find kits, plans or just info. on building my own unit. I have lots of documentation on building equipment for HF but there is vary little around for VHF. Now It would not be hard to upgrade to tech + and work the HF bands. (I am currently studding to take my written elements 3B and 4 in about 2 weeks.) but I would prefer to stay in the VHF and work my way into EME. I have also posted a similar request into the Home brew news group but since there seem to be a strong contingent of vary pro CW Hams here I thought this would also be a good place to ask. 73's TZ KC7PMQ From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:44 1996 From: denoid95x@aol.com (DeNoid95X) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Motorola MDT as dumb terminal? Date: 8 Mar 1996 11:37:19 -0500 Message-ID: <4hpnnv$6su@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: denoid95x@aol.com (DeNoid95X) I am wondering if the model D1118 B-SP13 can be used as a DUMB TERMINAL for packet (KPC-3). It has a DB-25 on the back. If it can be done what is the pin config? Hopefully someone out there has some info! N9RLR/2 From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:45 1996 From: rec@goodguy (Richard Eyre-Eagles) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: My idea for restructuring the licensing system..and keeping the code Date: 7 Mar 1996 03:01:33 GMT Message-ID: <4hljid$g6g@news1.goodnet.com> References: <4hgb3b$3tt@news1.goodnet.com> <4hisra$kgg@news.doit.wisc.edu> Bruce Micales (bmicales@facstaff.wisc.edu) wrote: :>In article <4hgb3b$3tt@news1.goodnet.com>, rec@goodguy says... :>>In summary, there would be 3 license classes that all new licensees and :>>upgrades would go to: :>> :>> - CLASS 3 [elements 2, 3(a) and 3(b)] Everything above 50 MHz :>> :>> - CLASS 2 [elements 1(a), 2, 3(a) and (b)] Frequency privleges :>> equivlent to General Class. :>> :>Would you be willing to "grandfather" the Tech PLUS (received before March :>21, 1987) to the CLASS 2 license? These Tech PLUS (prior to 3/21/87) have :>the code, theory, and regulations elements. :>Bruce Micales :>WA2DEU Bruce, read the FAQ on http://www.goodnet.com/~rec/3tier.com that item is specifically addressed. You would be able to claim your new license class filing a 610. That way, the FCC can put this monkey to rest. If you notice, the requirements for a Class-3 is 2,3(a) AND 3(b). That is one extra element for the entry level license. Existing Tech(no code) holders can take the 3(b), they will be given a Class-3 which does not extend privleges but gives them LIFETIME credit for the 3(b)(General Written) so when they are ready to tackle the 5WPM code, all they need to do is take the code. -- ================================================================== Richard Eyre-Eagles, KJ7MU | "The opinions expressed are not Tempe, Arizona | those of anyone but myself" ================================================================== goodnet is good primenet is bad Arizona, you have a choice From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:46 1996 From: T E I X E I R A Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: My idea for restructuring the licensing system..and keeping the code Date: 7 Mar 1996 03:20:28 GMT Message-ID: <4hlkls$7pt@ccnet2.ccnet.com> References: <4hgb3b$3tt@news1.goodnet.com> As far as code I feel it should stay. When other modes can't get through cw will. 20 wpm is not that hard to copy. Some countries require 30 wpm or more. Also, cw has been a great screening tool. Just have to "Pay your dues" & learn it. Don N6FNL From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:47 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: My idea for restructuring the licensing system..and keeping the code Message-ID: <1996Mar9.141603.29815@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: <4hgb3b$3tt@news1.goodnet.com> <4hlkls$7pt@ccnet2.ccnet.com> Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 14:16:03 GMT In article <4hlkls$7pt@ccnet2.ccnet.com> T E I X E I R A writes: >As far as code I feel it should stay. When other modes can't get >through cw will. I suppose that's why NASA uses banks of headset wearing operators to copy the weak signals from their deep space probes, eh? CW hasn't been the method of choice to get through when other techniques fail for a long time. Better methods have been developed, and those methods have become available to amateurs as well, witness Clover and PACTOR II which can maintain communications when you can't even detect the presence of a signal by ear. 20 wpm is not that hard to copy. Some countries >require 30 wpm or more. Which ones? >Also, cw has been a great screening tool. Just have to "Pay your >dues" & learn it. Uh huh, I suppose that's why we have such sterling operators on HF now, huh? Recall that NALs are issued disproportionately to those holding licenses requiring a Morse speed test. Correlation? Certainly. Causation, not so clear. And show us where the purpose of licensing has anything to do with "paying dues". Og the caveman could beat out rhythms on a log, but does that satisfy a government concern that he could operate a radio transmitter without causing harm to himself or others? I think not. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:48 1996 From: rec@goodguy (Richard Eyre-Eagles) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: My idea for restructuring the licensing system..and keeping the code Date: 8 Mar 1996 01:48:27 GMT Message-ID: <4ho3lb$c8r@news1.goodnet.com> References: <4hgb3b$3tt@news1.goodnet.com> <4hncdm$es7@nadine.teleport.com> :>A rational idea! I have been a ham for 36 years, and would even be :>willing to forego the CW test for a license, but am staunchly opposed :>to relenquishing CW segments of the bands. Some of us old timers are :>in a CW "rut", and enjoy it too much to give it up. But :>realistically, as a V.E., I see a greater need for practical tests in :>areas other than CW. I am only removing 25kHz from CW. I know that 25kHz can go a long way but there is still another 125kHz for CW. It would be nice to have phone QSOs Regions 1 and 3 on 40. Keep in mind this would be temporary until one of the upcoming WARCs where an agreement would be made on what to do with 7MHz (eg: 6900-7200 Worldwide Amateur Assignment, 7200-7500 Broadcasting). Morse will never die. -- ================================================================== Richard Eyre-Eagles, KJ7MU | "The opinions expressed are not Tempe, Arizona | those of anyone but myself" ================================================================== goodnet is good primenet is bad Arizona, you have a choice From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:49 1996 From: Mike - KB9LPJ Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Need manual for Kenwood TS-50 Date: 4 Mar 1996 23:13:19 GMT Message-ID: <4hftef$jp1@bucky.win.bright.net> TNX for reading this. I would like to know if anyone has a manual for a Kenwood TS-520 that they would be willing to part with. Or if they could steer me in the right direction so I could get myself one. Many TNX 73's >> Mike - KB9LPJ From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:50 1996 From: Parker Kent <100654.646@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave Subject: Need Radio Clock Info. Date: 6 Mar 1996 22:00:19 GMT Message-ID: <4hl1tj$90r$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> I need any information I can get in reguards to the radio signals sent from Germany across Europe giving time information for Radio Clocks. Thanks, Parker Kent From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:51 1996 From: dber@tiac.com (David Bernazzani) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: New Ham needs HT/Base 2M Advice Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 19:20:36 GMT Message-ID: <314328d7.21968608@news.tiac.net> Hello all, I just passed the exams and the 5WPM code test to earn my Tech Plus license (which should arrive this week - I check daily online!). After passing, I ordered a basic 2M 50W mobile for installation in my car. The price was good and the choices were simple... but I also want to get a "base" station for my room. Here are my questions. (1) How effective are the handhelds if connected to a well-mounted roof antenna (I'm considering the simple Cushcraft AR-270 mounted on my chimney)? Would it be possible to hit repeaters more than a few miles away? (2) When they say a handheld is 2.5W with 5W out for 9.X volts does that mean if I use a wall adapter I will get the full 5W out? Do the adapters typically come standard with HTs? (3) Anyone using a power amplifier for their HTs? How effective and do the cheaper (less than $100) ones work well? I don't want to buy an amp if it's not really needed. I just want enough power to get to the more popular receivers which my current scanner is able to receive very well. (4) If I decide to get a small mobile for base use, does anyone know any good places to get descent but inexpensive power supplies? I assume I would want at least 12-16A Continuous to be sure I have the power needed...? (5) How well do the HTs work when connected to a simple (MFJ) mag mount antenna on the roof of a car? How effective are they compared to mobile mounts with the same antenna (obviously the power is different, how much difference is typical in real use). Owning the HT would be an added benefit of being able to use an HT in a car other than my own (which will have a permanent 2M mobile). (6) Any suggestions on simple 2M HTs ... I'm mostly considering Yaesu. Thanks much in advance and take care, 73 Dave Bernazzani (no Callsign yet .... Let's get going FCC!) ----------------------------------------- "And after all we're only ordinary men" Pink Floyd _Us and Them_ http://www.tiac.net/users/dber ----------------------------------------- From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:52 1996 From: destiny_software@mindlink.bc.ca (destiny admin) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy Subject: New Radio Program Date: 7 Mar 1996 00:38:04 GMT Message-ID: <4hlb5c$rns@fountain.mindlink.net> Destiny Software is a developer of video games like JAM! (shareware), Darkseed II and Blood Bowl. You can check out our WEB site at: http://www.destiny-software.com/destiny Now we're experimenting with RADIO! We have just successfully broadcast good quality music and speech over the internet (receiving with a 28 800 modem). (Our compression algorithm is much faster and better quality than others we've tried.) We plan to allow non-commercial users to broadcast for free, encouraging a wide variety of viewpoints in this new medium. Commercial users are welcome to participate in BETA testing. The compression is in real time on a 486, so we will support live broadcasts as soon as we finish the initial testing. So here's the scoop - we're looking for BETA testers. If you would like to become a broadcaster, you need: 1. A permanent IP address. 2. A dedicated machine (or permission to run background tasks) 3. You are either linked to the MBONE or you have a fast connection 4. If you are using a non-windows server, we may need access to your account to compile for your particular machine. Basically, you fill your hard drive with samples and a script file to organize playback. (The player will repeat the script when it finishes). Later we will upgrade so that broadcasters can go live by plugging a signal into a PC sound card. Listeners will enter your address into the radio program and voila, your broadcast will begin playing. The radio feature will be built into our soon to be released freeware browser. If you're interested, send email. Thanks! From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:53 1996 From: dpc01@www.gnofn.org (Daniel P Cristina) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Packet Bulletin Availability Date: 9 Mar 1996 23:32:46 -0600 Message-ID: <4htphu$c06@www.gnofn.org> Does anyone know of a site where Amateur Bulletins can be retrieved via zip file on a daily or every second day basis? We have some bulletins arriving here in N.O. but some are dated 3-5 days behind, and with STS flights with routine orbital burns, this info is sometimes received after the shuttle has landed. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Danny/N5OMG From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:54 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: Curt Subject: Porcelain Insulators Message-ID: <313D0B49.3ED9@hightec.com> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 03:49:29 GMT If you have an antenna project in mind for spring, i have some hard to find Birnbach Porcelain insulators for sale. They are about 8" long & about 1 1/2" around. These are great for SWL, Ham Hi-Power or any wire antenna. The price is $4.00ea plus shipping. To reach me: Curt@hightec.com or phone 317-862-1282 before 10pm EST or you can mail a check with approx $5.00 for shipping to Curt Haroutunian N9INK 7835 E Southport Rd. Indianapolis, IN. 46259 An E-Mail message to let me know your check is on the way will hold them for you as quantity is limited to 80 at the time of this post. From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:55 1996 From: roland.stiner@hobbs.com (ROLAND STINER) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Radios at Atlanta Olympic Message-ID: <8BC2526.002900430A.uuout@hobbs.com> Date: Tue, 05 Mar 96 21:58:00 -0400 Distribution: world Reply-To: roland.stiner@hobbs.com (ROLAND STINER) To: ham@w3eax.umd.edu Subject: Radios at Atlanta Olympics H>The Olympics will be very ham-unfriendly. All frequencies in and >around the Olympics have apparently been accounted for by the staff >and, in the interest of security, 2-way radios of all kinds (inclu- >ding amateur HT's, known for being able to be modified for out of >band operation), are banned from the venues (where the events happen). H>I don't know if this includes cell phones, but by the way it sounded, >it just might. Anyway, they've said not to bring your HT along, >period. Why, what are they worried about? --- OLX 1.53 --------------> 73, de NK2U <---------------- * Origin: CyberNet BBS Lyndhurst, NJ (1:2604/151) .....oooooOOOOOo http://www.intac.com/~cono __,-----. ---+_________#_ The Roy Hobbs BBS sysop@hobbs.com |________| |__|___________} Node 1: 201-641-7307 ooooo oo ~ ooO-O-O-O == oo\ Node 2: 201-641-3126 From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:56 1996 From: otterson@mindspring.com (Jeff Otterson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy Subject: Re: Radios at Atlanta Olympics Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 01:51:49 GMT Message-ID: <4hlfka$iu1@B1FF.mindspring.com> References: <4heuc1$7js@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Reply-To: otterson@mindspring.com >In article <4heuc1$7js@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> ham@w3eax.umd.edu writes: >> The Olympics will be very ham-unfriendly. All frequencies in and >> around the Olympics have apparently been accounted for by the staff >> and, in the interest of security, 2-way radios of all kinds (inclu- >> ding amateur HT's, known for being able to be modified for out of >> band operation), are banned from the venues (where the events happen). >> >> I don't know if this includes cell phones, but by the way it sounded, >> it just might. Anyway, they've said not to bring your HT along, >> period. Hmmm. 1. ACOG has been soliciting Amateur assistance, the ARRL is involved in organizing communications support by amateurs. 2. *Federal* authority granted your radio license. 3. It's a cell-phone. Bell South has gone to great lengths to make the 96 games cell-phone friendly. Yes, of course it's a cell phone. sounds like BS to me. ACOG is so screwed up. The other day, on front page of the Atlanta Constitution, was an article that described how a person in New Mexico was told by the telephone ticket seller that he would have to buy tickets in his own country, since New Mexico was not in the United States. The ticket seller's supervisor was kind enough to confirm this fact to the frustrated caller, who eventually got his tickets by using an Arizona address. gaack. Jeff Otterson ------------- otterson@mindspring.com Maker and user of tools PGP key available at http://www.mindspring.com/~otterson/pgp.htm From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:16:58 1996 From: bob@texas.net (Bob) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy Subject: Re: Radios at Atlanta Olympics Date: Sat, 09 Mar 1996 05:42:26 GMT Message-ID: <4hs6i1$d15@nntp.texas.net> References: <4heuc1$7js@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> croaker@access.digex.net (Francis A. Ney, Jr.) wrote: >In article <4heuc1$7js@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> ham@w3eax.umd.edu writes: >> The Olympics will be very ham-unfriendly. All frequencies in and >> around the Olympics have apparently been accounted for by the staff >> and, in the interest of security, 2-way radios of all kinds (inclu- >> ding amateur HT's, known for being able to be modified for out of >> band operation), are banned from the venues (where the events happen). >> >> I don't know if this includes cell phones, but by the way it sounded, >> it just might. Anyway, they've said not to bring your HT along, >> period. >Well, that settles it: the olympics will be a MUST MISS for me... >What a bunch of assholes. Yeah, what a bunch of JERKS!! I mean, like, nobobdy would EVER try to do something organized and violent at the OLYMPICS, right???!! After Munich and the hundreds of other hideous terrorist atrocities committed by extremists all over the world to gain attention to their piddly causes, I guess you think your right to carry your HT swinging like a big electronic pocket-protector from your belt should be high on the priority list of the people trying to prevent carnage at the games??? Get real. MUST MISS?? Go ahead, nobody will notice. 73 -- Bob "I never understood Pat Buchanan's speeches until I was able to hear them in the original German" -Robin Williams From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:17:00 1996 From: Gene Shablygin Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Radios at Atlanta Olympics Date: Sat, 09 Mar 96 02:44:57 PDT Message-ID: References: <4heuc1$7js@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> <4hlt0h$iju@firebrick.mindspring.com> :> >The Olympics will be very ham-unfriendly. All frequencies in and :> >around the Olympics have apparently been accounted for by the staff :> >and, in the interest of security, 2-way radios of all kinds (inclu- :> >ding amateur HT's, known for being able to be modified for out of :> >band operation), are banned from the venues (where the events happen). :> :> >I don't know if this includes cell phones, but by the way it sounded, :> >it just might. Anyway, they've said not to bring your HT along, :> >period. ;> >-- :> >Scott Rosenfeld NF3I Burtonsville, MD :> :> Four years ago I and several other active Atlanta area hams contacted :> the Atlanta Committee for the Olympic Games about the possibility of :> setting up amateur radio al la recent olympic games where special :> stations were set up to contact stations around the world. I have :> beautiful cards from Seoul for example. The person I spoke with was :> not friendly at all, but asked to see one of the cards. I sent along :> one (never did get it back) that fully explained the station and its :> reason to be. The next week I got a terse letter back saying that :> ACOG wanted no part of "amateur" activity. :> :> At about the same time, Seattle hosted the WRTC with hams from all :> over the world competing against each other. I took the idea and :> placed this in front of several members of ACOG and they told me its :> too much trouble, forget it. > > Within the last two years ACOG realized that they need help so they > finally reached out to both hams and REACT for volunteer support. I > understand they are still looking for more volunteers. But by then > the taste was so bad that I wanted no part of it. I can't speak for > HT's or cellular phones, but from what I hear there will be many out > there as long as they are held by registered volunteers. Beware that > to volunteer you need to be available for the entire 2 plus weeks and > be able to work anytime. > > I hear that possibily Georgia Tech (W4AQL) or Sci-Trek Museum (STARS) > may have some radio activity as official olympic stations. Lets hope > so as I personally don't want to let Atlanta go down as the first > olympic games since WW II not to have some type of (all band) olympic > amateur activity. > > Dave Thompson, K4JRB > > 16 years ago, when we all Russian hams lived in the Box 88, and the ONLY ideology allowed was communism... we could set up a great ham activity during Moscow olympics (I was personally involved in RM3O operations)... those who worked in 1980, can remember the rainbow of RM, RL, RX, RX, RT, RY prefixes... What's going on in free America? Gene AB5GY / RA3AA From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:17:00 1996 From: kc7gnm@theriver.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy Subject: Re: Radios at Atlanta Olympics Date: 10 Mar 1996 02:57:11 GMT Message-ID: <4htge7$g2h@news.theriver.com> References: <4heuc1$7js@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> <4hlfka$iu1@B1FF.mindspring.com> <4hqq5o$64r@news.interpath.net> Reply-To: kc7gnm@theriver.com In <4hqq5o$64r@news.interpath.net>, Don Schreiner writes: >Hmmm > >What am I missing? > >If Atlanta is asking for Amateur Radio help for the Olympics, but simultaneou sly >disallowing radio's, this could put a crimp in communications. Sounds like M urphy >is alive and well! > >73's > >WR4E > > I think that hams should not help them until they lift that silly rule. If the y want our help then they should let us bring our radios and such into the stadium. 73 de KC7GNM Greg From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:17:02 1996 From: AC6V Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: REPEATER GUIDES ON WWW Date: 9 Mar 1996 20:01:27 GMT Message-ID: <4hso2n$em@reader2.ix.netcom.com> References: <4g2gg4$e1q@cloner3.netcom.com> <4hsg6m$m7l@feenix.metronet.com> A composite message from AC6V and KB5VQI: Re Repeater Guides From AC6V: Saw several requests for an on-line repeater guide. > >>Try ARTSCI at: > >>http://home.earthlink.net/~artsci/repmain.html Also for a very comprehensive San Diego Repeater Guide, go to our PARC Page: http://www.electriciti.com/parc Then got to Red Repeater Button for PARC Repeaters and then to bottom of page for "All San Diego Repeater Guide". Print em out and visit San Diego and PARC on your next So Calif Trip. Lots of sun and fun and repeaters! >From Glenn Johnson >I have put together a comprehensive DFW, Texas area repeater list for >50, 144, 440, and above with a general frequency guide at: > >http://www.metronet.com/~raki/kb5vqi > > >**************************************************** >Raki - Glenn Johnson - KB5VQI - Fort Worth Texas USA >HM - raki@metronet.com WK - glenn.johnson@ast.com >WWW - http://www.metronet.com/~raki/raki.html ***************************************************************** AC6V Hark! I Have Hurled My Words To The Far Reaches Of The Earth! What King Of Old Could Do Thus ? --- AC6V ***************************************************************** A Man May Know Of The World Without Leaving The Shelter Of His Own Home! Loa-Tsze ***************************************************************** From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:17:03 1996 From: delaney@j51.com (Matthew Delaney) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Rigs in Atlanta before the Olmypics? Date: 10 Mar 1996 18:44:20 GMT Message-ID: <4hv7u4$bft@tzlink.j51.com> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I heard on Newsline that we shouldn't plan on bringing our rigs to the Olmypics in Atlanta because we won't be allowed in. What about this spring, before the games, are they doing anything? -- Matthew Delaney N2MDB delaney@j51.com ax.25: n2mdb@k2sk.#eny.ny.usa.na Finger for PGP key http://www.j51.com/~delaney/ http://www.chsn.org/chsn "To confine our attention to terrestrial matters would be to limit the human spirit" -- Stephen Hawking -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMUMjccrf7u3bU1CNAQGaTgP/b1T5Zgoea5nVUr4l6iOGxt7I8UX8yjIH gCNOzTinZ5kWeVW4cJ9UZfz2zTVqUMK+3HOZv53DEWSw4edDgIWAMTaswbANvQyq TTDwPW5GF99Jt/gaDfyPCGARYki9aa36lhOb9vlkkcsAg+wgv9lanucjVRiRKR2c olbY1odWLh0= =lIg1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:17:04 1996 From: "G.Ioannu" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Shematic for a Cleartone VHF 500/A tranceiver Wanted... Date: 7 Mar 1996 16:26:28 GMT Message-ID: <4hn2nk$eo1@ccuh.wlv.ac.uk> I would appriciate if anybody could send me the schematic for a VHF tranceiver made by CLEARTONE. The model is VHF 500/AM. It was used for Radio Taxis, and I want to convert it for the 2 meter band. I contacted Cleartone in UK ( I think it is a UK company ), but they haven't got any documentation any more. I'll have to build FM modulation, FM demodulator and PLL, almost impossible with out the schematic. I'll be glad to cover any expenses. Thank you all in advance. George Ioannu SV8ARJ From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:17:05 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: johnl@world.std.com (John W Langner) Subject: Re: SLOW SCAN TV - info needed Message-ID: References: <4hhrak$eem@seralph9.essex.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 11:48:32 GMT In article <4hhrak$eem@seralph9.essex.ac.uk>, Steven Priest wrote: >I am currently doing a project on SSTV, and would be very grateful if >anyone has any information they could send me. > >Here are a list of subject areas which would be usful: > >History >Present Uses >Hardware Recievers >Circuit Designs, ideas etc > >Cheers >Steven Priest > Plenty of SSTV information can be found at http://www.ultranet.com/~sstv e-mail me your postal address for some hardcopy information if you don't have WWW access. 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Enter and WIN the GRAND PRIZE in our TRIVIA RAFFLE!!! From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:17:08 1996 From: afn29443@afn.org (john p. sumner) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: TAI-CHI MASTER - 3/13 - PC THEATER Date: 6 Mar 1996 16:04:06 GMT Message-ID: <4hkd1m$nkh@huron.eel.ufl.edu> References: <960306071922_26900346@hp1.online.apple.com> Fromdowntown@eworld.COM wrote: Hey this does not belong on here you dummy. John P. Sumner afn29443@afn.org From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:17:08 1996 From: trandall@mhv.net (Thomas Randall) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Technician Plus Date: Thu, 07 Mar 96 21:42:14 GMT Message-ID: <4hnl9j$l60@over.mhv.net> References: <4hihf3$5l2@firebrick.mindspring.com> In article <4hihf3$5l2@firebrick.mindspring.com>, clancast@mindspring.com (Clint Lancaster) wrote: >What is a Technician Plus? > >Seems I are one ! > >CML >WD4KZJ > Congratulations! I just passed my 5 wpm 2 weeks ago! You get 10,40 & 80 meters now. Voice on 28.300-28.500 and cw between 28.100 and 28.300 On 40 you get CW from 7.100 to 7.150 On 80 you get CW from 3.675 to 3.725 NO voice on 40 or 80. Next stop, the GENERAL! 73, Tom - KB2SMS Tom Randall Amateur Radio - KB2SMS trandall@mhv.net Mt. Beacon Amateur Radio Club / ARRL Member: AAVSO Solar Division Opinions herein are mine and they are not that of MHV.NET! From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:17:10 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: jbl@levin.mv.com (Joel B Levin) Subject: Re: Technician Plus Message-ID: <313fcd97.358089304@quartz.mv.com> Reply-To: jbl@levin.mv.com Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 06:06:47 GMT References: <4hihf3$5l2@firebrick.mindspring.com> <4hnl9j$l60@over.mhv.net> In <4hnl9j$l60@over.mhv.net>, Thomas Randall wrote: |In article <4hihf3$5l2@firebrick.mindspring.com>, | clancast@mindspring.com (Clint Lancaster) wrote: |>What is a Technician Plus? |> |>Seems I are one ! |>CML |>WD4KZJ | Congratulations! I just passed my 5 wpm 2 weeks ago! You get 10,40 & 80 |meters now. Voice on 28.300-28.500 and cw between 28.100 and 28.300 |On 40 you get CW from 7.100 to 7.150 |On 80 you get CW from 3.675 to 3.725 |NO voice on 40 or 80. | |Next stop, the GENERAL! Congratulations! I think, however, Clint has just gotten a renewed or restored license, judging by his WD4 callsign, and found it had written on it "Technician Plus" where it used to say "Technician". Anyone who was a technician before 1991 when the no-code license was introduced automatically became a Plus in fact if not in name. The FCC has just been making it official. The Plus means you have novice-equivalent privileges on 80 through 10 meters in addition to all Technician privileges above 30 MHz because at one time you passed a five wpm code test. 73 / JBL -- Nets: levin@bbn.com | "How does a mouse let me move the cursor anywhere or jbl@levin.mv.com| I want?" "What are address busses?" "How do pots: (617)873-3463 | icons work?" --Time-Life Books ARS: KD1ON | From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:17:11 1996 From: Steve Sampson Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Technician Plus Date: Fri, 08 Mar 1996 06:01:34 -0600 Message-ID: <3140219E.45F9@telepath.com> References: <4hihf3$5l2@firebrick.mindspring.com> To: Clint Lancaster Clint Lancaster wrote: > > What is a Technician Plus? > > Seems I are one ! > > CML > WD4KZJ Geez... You must not be very active... A Technician is a beginner Ham. Plus means you know (knew) Morse Code at a maximum speed of 5 words per minute. Technician Plus Hams can send CW in the Novice HF bands, and do SSB on the 10 meter band (No AM or FM though ). Steve Tech+ until all the old farts die off on HF. From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:17:12 1996 From: MIKEKC5GJN@AOL.COM Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Technician Plus Date: 10 Mar 1996 06:48:43 GMT Message-ID: <4htu0b$kbd@news.cis.okstate.edu> References: <4hihf3$5l2@firebrick.mindspring.com> <3140219E.45F9@telepath.com> In article , Ken Harrison wrote: >Path: news.cis.okstate.edu!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!news.ysu.edu!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!prav da.aa.msen.com!news1.best.com!sgigate.sgi.com!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!n ewshub.csu.net!usenet >From: Ken Harrison >Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc >Subject: Re: Technician Plus >Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 00:41:19 -0800 (PST) >Organization: Information Resources and Technology >Lines: 28 >Message-ID: >References: <4hihf3$5l2@firebrick.mindspring.com> <3140219E.45F9@telepath.com> >NNTP-Posting-Host: zippy.sonoma.edu >Mime-Version: 1.0 >X-Sender: ken@zippy >In-Reply-To: <3140219E.45F9@telepath.com> >Status: N > >On Fri, 8 Mar 1996, Steve Sampson wrote: > >> You must not be very active... >> >> A Technician is a beginner Ham. Plus means you know (knew) Morse Code >> at a maximum speed of 5 words per minute. Technician Plus Hams can send >> CW in the Novice HF bands, and do SSB on the 10 meter band (No AM or FM >> though). >> >> Steve > >Hi Steve... Actually, to be a little bit more accurate regarding the >"maximum" speed... Would it be more correct to say a maximum speed of >"up to but not including 13 wpm?" Maybe better would be "at least 5 wpm >but not 13 wpm." > >The 5 wpm maximum just didn't quite set well with me. Had to be said. :-) > >73, >Ken > Oh picky picky!!!! Mike From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:17:13 1996 From: wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Technician Plus Date: 11 Mar 1996 03:55:21 GMT Message-ID: <4i0879$bib@cc.iu.net> References: <4hihf3$5l2@firebrick.mindspring.com> Reply-To: wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) In <4hihf3$5l2@firebrick.mindspring.com>, clancast@mindspring.com (Clint Lanca ster) writes: >What is a Technician Plus? >Seems I are one ! >CML >WD4KZJ a tech plus is anyone who has credit for elements 2 and 3A of the written exam s (some have element 3B from the days of the single element 3 test..pre-3/21/87) plus credit for passing any code speed test (even if it was 13 or 20..and it'd expired you'd still get credit for 1A...and would carry on..) tech plus get tech VHF privileges plus Novice HF privileges. Bill Newkirk WB9IVR The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group Melbourne, FL duty now for the future of amateur radio Lombardi's 1st Law of Business: Companies succeed in spite of their best effort. If they succeed at all. From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:17:15 1996 From: wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Technician Plus Date: 11 Mar 1996 03:58:52 GMT Message-ID: <4i08ds$bib@cc.iu.net> References: <4hihf3$5l2@firebrick.mindspring.com> <3140219E.45F9@telepath.com> Reply-To: wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) In , Ken Harrison writes: >On Fri, 8 Mar 1996, Steve Sampson wrote: >> A Technician is a beginner Ham. Plus means you know (knew) Morse Code >> at a maximum speed of 5 words per minute. Technician Plus Hams can send >> CW in the Novice HF bands, and do SSB on the 10 meter band (No AM or FM >> though). >> Steve >Hi Steve... Actually, to be a little bit more accurate regarding the >"maximum" speed... Would it be more correct to say a maximum speed of >"up to but not including 13 wpm?" Maybe better would be "at least 5 wpm >but not 13 wpm." >The 5 wpm maximum just didn't quite set well with me. Had to be said. :-) >73, >Ken better than that - the tech plus could have passed 13 or 20 but not the writte ns and for whatever reason, didn't get back to cash in the test credits before th ey expired...this would leave someone who was, say a shipboard op or a intercept operator with a tech plus when he could do 35 while asleep... if you pass 20 and element 2, you get a novice license. Bill Newkirk WB9IVR The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group Melbourne, FL duty now for the future of amateur radio Lombardi's 1st Law of Business: Companies succeed in spite of their best effort. If they succeed at all. 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SAVE $$$ ON POSTAGE-SAVE $$$ ON CALLBOOKS-SAVE $$$ ON CD-ROMS FAST..PROMPT..PROFESSIONAL..SERVICE..FOR HAMS BY HAMS RATES FOR YOUR OUTGOING CARDS; 2 - 10 CARDS $.10 EA. - 10 FOR $1.00 - 50 FOR $4.50 100 FOR $8.00 - OVER 100, $7.00 PER HUNDRED CARDS PLEASE PUT CALLSIGN OF STATION YOU ARE SENDING CARD TO IN THE ADDRESS SECTION (BACK OF CARD) IN 3/4 TO 1 INCH LETTERS! NO CHARGE FOR CARDS SENT TO YOU BY THE BUREAU - BUT YOU MUST HAVE AT LEAST ONE SASE ON FILE - ALL HAMS ENCOURAGED TO KEEP AT LEAST ONE #6 SASE ON FILE AT THE BUREAU!! SPECIAL SERVICES AVAILABLE FOR; CONTESTERS, CLUBS & SPECIAL EVENT STATIONS, QSL MANAGER SERVICES ALSO AVAILABLE, CONTACT US FOR MORE INFRMATION. START ENJOYING THE SAVINGS AND BENEFITS TODAY!! SEND US UP TO -4- #6(3-5/8 X 6-1/2) SASE's (W/1-STAMP-EA) PLEASE PUT YOUR CALLSIGN IN TOP LEFT CORNER!!! OR YOU MAY SEND $5.00, YOUR CORRECT RETURN ADDRESS & WE SUPPLY 10 ADDRESSED STAMPED ENVELOPES FOR YOU. SEND YOUR CHECK/OUTGOING CARDS ALONG WITH YOUR SASE'S TO; USA QSL BUREAU Dept-N P.O. BOX 814 BREWER, ME 04412-0814 DON'T DELAY! DO IT TODAY! ENJOY SAVINGS & BENEFITS TOMORROW! THE QSL CARD - THE FINAL COURTEOUSITY OF A QSO!!! NOW, THERE IS NO REASON NOT TO QSL!!! OPERATED BY AA1MF & CREW E-MAIL 102452.2315@COMPUSERVE.COM -EOF- From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:17:20 1996 From: doneal@tcac.com (Dave O'Neal) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Use of radio on passenger airlines Date: Wed, 06 Mar 1996 22:58:56 GMT Message-ID: <4hl52v$57p@jupiter.tcac.com> References: Edwin Clark wrote: >Is there any other federal laws that affect the use of amateur equipment >aboard airlines other that 97.11? >seems to me I read something a few months back about a complete >restriction on use because of possible safety of the airplane. >any help will be appreciated....ed KB0MKH I'm sure you KNOW that there is a real possibility of interfering with the electronics on the aircraft. I know it is "neet" to talk 200 miles on your H.T., but is it worth ENDANGERING THE LIVES OF EVERYONE ON-BOARD? A hint... the correct answer is NO. Put your "toys" in your luggage and play with them when you get there. From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:17:21 1996 From: Victor Morange Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Use of radio on passenger airlines Date: Mon, 04 Mar 1996 22:18:10 +0000 Message-ID: <313B6C22.7F80@ix.netcom.com> References: To: Edwin Clark Edwin Clark wrote: > > Is there any other federal laws that affect the use of amateur equipment > aboard airlines other that 97.11? > > seems to me I read something a few months back about a complete > restriction on use because of possible safety of the airplane. > > any help will be appreciated....ed KB0MKH The FAA states that Pagers, Cellular Phones, Radios including scanners and Ham, C.B., general etc. are not allowed to be operated or in use on board an aircraft without the approval of the captain of the aircraft. This is because that use of this can interfere with the communication, navigational and instrumental devices in the cockpit. Basically...just don't touch the radio on the plane. Also it maybe wise to take of the battery and antenna to get through security. Victor Morange KO6ZK vmorange@ix.netcom.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:17:22 1996 From: mcs@crl.com (Nicholas McLarty) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Use of radio on passenger airlines Date: 6 Mar 1996 15:20:52 -0800 Message-ID: <4hl6kk$olh@crl13.crl.com> References: <4hl52v$57p@jupiter.tcac.com> Dave O'Neal (doneal@tcac.com) wrote: : I'm sure you KNOW that there is a real possibility of interfering : with the electronics on the aircraft. I know it is "neet" to talk 200 : miles on your H.T., but is it worth ENDANGERING THE LIVES OF : EVERYONE ON-BOARD? A hint... the correct answer is NO. : Put your "toys" in your luggage and play with them when you get there. I feel I should make a little clarification on this... Some airlines (I know Delta is one) will permit the use of devices wich *receive* RF transmissions while in the cruise stage of the flight. They are not permitted, however, during: taxi, takeoff, ascent, descent, landing, and taxi. I do stress _RECEIVE_, though, because the airlines feel that IF interference is marginal and do not affect the onoard navigation systems enough. However, the second your transmit with a radio inside a plane, at best you would only temporarily disorient the instruments. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- NICHOLAS R. McLARTY, C/TSgt, AFJROTC mcs@crl.com Texas 882nd AFJROTC Group: San Antonio, TX Amateur Radio Operator - KC5IUZ Official Emergency Station - South Texas Section, ARRL PGP Fingerprint 64 29 66 2B B4 53 C2 8D 33 73 A7 33 16 78 D1 05 Personal Home Page TX-882 AFJROTC Web Page Appendix http://www.crl.com/~mcs http://sparc2.umeres.maine.edu:5000 From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:17:23 1996 From: wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Use of radio on passenger airlines Date: 11 Mar 1996 04:04:34 GMT Message-ID: <4i08oi$bib@cc.iu.net> References: <4hniu4$pfl$2@mhadg.production.compuserve.com> Reply-To: wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) In , jangus@netcom.com (Jeffrey D. Angus) writes: >Look around the next airport you're in and count the number of mobile >transmitters. even easier, look at the number of antennas on the plane...(some are hidden). 3 VHF comms, 2 VHF navs, 2 adfs, 2 dmes, 2 transponders, maybe a couple of HF radios if needed, satcom is the new thing for 2-ways plus GPS (more that ju st 1 for redundancy..)...and i'm probably forgetting things like the flite-fones, t he data radios, radar (weather and wind shear), etc. and it can be a challenge to get that stuff to all cooperate even on a big pla ne Bill Newkirk WB9IVR The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group Melbourne, FL duty now for the future of amateur radio Lombardi's 1st Law of Business: Companies succeed in spite of their best effort. If they succeed at all. From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:17:25 1996 From: louis.iocona@compudata.com (LOUIS IOCONA) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Vintage QST magazine 4 sale Message-ID: <8BC417F.150F000E61.uuout@compudata.com> Date: Thu, 07 Mar 96 06:23:00 -0400 Distribution: world Reply-To: louis.iocona@compudata.com (LOUIS IOCONA) Hello, and thanks for reading this, I thought this may be the best place to post this request since I did not see a specific area. I have for sale about eight QST magazines from December 1949 up to July 1950. They are still in their oringinal shipping wrap and are in very mint condition. I bought them at an auction and now have decided they could be better used for someone who has a interest in them. I would like to sell them complete but will sell a specific issue if requested. Please E-mail if interested. Lou N2PKT louis.iocona@compudata.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:17:25 1996 From: flanders@znet.groupz.net (Jerry Flanders) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Vintage QST magazine 4 sale Date: Fri, 08 Mar 1996 02:29:41 GMT Message-ID: <4ho62a$k7m@news1.sunbelt.net> References: <8BC417F.150F000E61.uuout@compudata.com> louis.iocona@compudata.com (LOUIS IOCONA) wrote: >...I have for sale about eight QST magazines from December 1949 up >to July 1950. ... > Lou N2PKT ============================================================== Lou, how about checking some old prices for us before the magazines are gone. I think I remember seeing ads in QST of that vintage (I read them "live", at that time) that life membership in ARRL was $20 and a years subscription was, I think, about $2.75. Jerry W4UKU flanders@groupz.net From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:17:26 1996 From: ke6bfu@west.net (L@rry) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: WALA Date: Fri, 08 Mar 1996 05:52:02 GMT Message-ID: <313fcae9.2200776@news.west.net> How do I get a hold of a WALA map? Pls mail me at ke6bfu@west.net Thanks Larry From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:17:28 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc From: crisp@netcom.com (Richard Crisp) Subject: Re: When does the Foothill College Swap in Los Altos, CA, start? Message-ID: References: <4gd2lf$pem@globe.indirect.com> <4h5ulh$s7d@nntp.flash.net> <4h63tj$hd1@reader2.ix.netcom.com> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 17:19:48 GMT what is the talk-in freq? -- Richard Crisp Cupertino, Ca. crisp@netcom.com (415) 903-3832 wk (408) 253 4541 fax "When I make a joke, no one gets hurt; when Congress makes a joke, it becomes law" -Will Rogers -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6 mQCNAi8PXwQAAAEEANg7hVToVEnjYl+YnhmQfewdRQL3csaJONnbaFnJKutyUgPO 4sRyYuEDVfthnQVKX+0ZDtSk/EbbDHMsVxbQHkIjDlJHWUBWyCa6VUF9lt/bQXX4 SD17HgwW+A/vJbb5dEq8aFb14E4a3YCtAELb+u5uog974Zbx+pn/f3DxmL4ZAAUR tCBSaWNoYXJkIENyaXNwIDxjcmlzcEBuZXRjb20uY29tPg== =vQHk -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:17:29 1996 From: vbook@vbook.com (Ed Mitchell) Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: When does the Foothill College Swap in Los Altos, CA, start? Date: 9 Mar 1996 22:01:56 GMT Message-ID: <4hsv4k$ef0@news.accessone.com> References: <4gd2lf$pem@globe.indirect.com> <4h5ulh$s7d@nntp.flash.net> <4h63tj$hd1@reader2.ix.netcom.com> In article , crisp@netcom.com says... > >what is the talk-in freq? > >-- >Richard Crisp Cupertino, Ca. crisp@netcom.com >(415) 903-3832 wk (408) 253 4541 fax >"When I make a joke, no one gets hurt; when Congress makes a joke, it becomes >law" -Will Rogers Talk-in freq is 145.27 (-) SPECS repeater. I believe PL tone 100 is recommended. I *used* to be a specs member but now live 800 miles north of that swap meet. 73, Ed, KF7VY ----- personal email to vbook@vbook.com Visit Ham Radio Online, it's free, at http://www.accessone.com/~vbook/hronline.htm From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:17:30 1996 From: jaminge@pb2esac.esac.pacbell.com (John Minger) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: where/when 1st Ham repeater? Date: 7 Mar 1996 18:40:23 GMT Message-ID: <4hnain$mjq@gw.PacBell.COM> References: <313F0E1E.3831@macshasta.com> In article <313F0E1E.3831@macshasta.com>, jenglish wrote: >Our local YL net entertains itself with a weekly amateur radio >"trivia" question. This week it is "where, when and near what famous >landmark was the first amateur radio repeater used?" > Seems to me I heard something on Newline recently about a pioneer in the field who had just become a silent key. Wasn't he from California. Maybe it was a repeater on Mt Hollywood (near the sign). 73, John KE6DTC -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- John Minger Interests: Genealogy, Amateur Radio KE6DTC@K6VE.#SOCA.CA.USA.NOAM, TCP/IP: 44.16.1.240 - ke6dtc.ampr.org ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:17:31 1996 From: Chuck Penson Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: WTB: QST on microfiche Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 11:13:07 -0600 Message-ID: <313F1923.2C1A@sci.mus.mn.us> Anybody have a set of QSTs on microfiche? Doesn't need to be complete. Am really looking for 1950 to 1980 or thereabouts. Thanks -- Chuck Penson Education Division Science Museum of Minnesota penson@sci.mus.mn.us 612.221.4510 voice 612.224.5092 fax http://comped.sci.mus.mn.us Standard Disclaimer: The opinions expressed are etc. etc. ... "Nothing is too wonderful to be true" -- Michael Faraday From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:17:32 1996 From: Chuck Penson Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: WTB: QST on microfiche Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 11:12:44 -0600 Message-ID: <313F190C.62D5@sci.mus.mn.us> Anybody have a set of QSTs on microfiche? Doesn't need to be complete. Am really looking for 1950 to 1980 or thereabouts. Thanks -- Chuck Penson Education Division Science Museum of Minnesota penson@sci.mus.mn.us 612.221.4510 voice 612.224.5092 fax http://comped.sci.mus.mn.us Standard Disclaimer: The opinions expressed are etc. etc. ... "Nothing is too wonderful to be true" -- Michael Faraday From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:17:33 1996 From: biekert@phoenix.net (Bob Biekert) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: WWW Page Date: Sun, 10 Mar 96 21:15:09 GMT Message-ID: <4hvgov$7q4@gryphon.phoenix.net> In the Clear Lake City area (S.E. Houston TX) the Clear Lake ARC is an ARRL Special Services Club. Check out our web site http://www.phoenix.net/~biekert/index.html 73 Bob KA5GLX Bob Biekert -- Houston Texas biekert@phoenix.net ka5glx@amsat.org, ka5glx@clarc.phoenix.net http://clarc.phoenix.net/~ka5glx From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:17:33 1996 From: Geoff Brown Newsgroups: uk.radio.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.misc, Subject: WWW pages Date: 10 Mar 1996 21:04:14 GMT Message-ID: <4hvg4e$9is@fhbgb1.itl.net> Readers may be interested in the new additions at: http://user.itl.net/~equinox These pages now contain a near real, MUF, E Layer and F2 links, plus lots more new additions. Geoff From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 13:57:03 1996 From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: (Ham stressors Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 06:38:09 -0500 Message-ID: <3142BF21.402@ccsnet.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------CDF8E7540A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit - --------------CDF8E7540A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Hamstres" Here is the list of stressors, along with their relative weights, from Drs. Thomas H. Holmes and Richard H. Rahe, psychiatrists at the University of Washington Medical School. K1OIK made certain additions: Event Relative Rating Talk to an attractive female direct 200 Talk to a female on the air 103 Forced to sell rig 102 Theft of rig 101 Death of spouse 100 Ham takes a bath or shower 100 Antenna falls 100 Try to fix own rig 99 Spouse walks into ham shack 99 Divorce 73 Receiving a packet message 69 Marital separation 65 Jail term 63 Death of close family member 63 Sending a packet message 54 Personal injury or illness 53 Listening to a repeater 52 Marriage 50 Fired at work 47 Marital reconciliation 45 Retirement 45 Change in health of family member 44 Pregnancy 40 Sex difficulties (all hams have this) 39 Gain of new family member 39 Eyeball "QSO" 34 Change in financial state 38 Death of close friend 37 Death of a ham friend 01 (all hams are dead anyway) Change to different line of work 36 Change in number of arguments w/ spouse 35 Change in number of QSOs 33 Mortgage over $10,000 (!) 31 Foreclosure of mortgage or loan 30 Change in responsibilities at work 29 Son or daughter leaving home 29 Trouble with in-laws 29 Outstanding personal achievement 28 Outstanding ham achievement 67 Wife (spouse) begins or stops work 26 Begin or end school 26 Change in living conditions 25 Revision of personal habits 24 Trouble with boss 23 Trouble with rig 87 Change in work hours or conditions 20 Change in residence 20 Change in schools 20 Change in recreation 19 Change in call sign 99 Change in church activities 19 Change in social activities 18 Mortgage or loan less than $10,000 17 Change in sleeping habits 16 Change in # of family get-togethers 15 Change in code speed 15 Change in eating habits 15 Vacation 13 Christmas 12 Minor violations of the law 11 Receiving a QSL card 09 Ham's child dies 07 Feel free to make additions and I will update the list. Burt K1OIK. --------------CDF8E7540A-- From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 13:57:05 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: 14100 kHz beacons Message-ID: <1996Mar11.173846.11451@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: <313FA717.735B@algonet.se> <4hr1ep$38t@acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us> <976@safn8.UUCP> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 17:38:46 GMT In article <976@safn8.UUCP> pmm@safn2.saf.com (Penn McClatchey) writes: >In article <4hr1ep$38t@acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us>, gfoley@freenet.columbus. oh.us (Gerard Foley) writes: >> Ingvar Eriksson (ie@algonet.se) wrote: >> : Can anyone tell me what stations are involved in the 14100kHz beacon net? >..... >> successive levels of 100, 10, 1, 0.1 and 0.01 watt. The transmitters >> are all the same. > >What mode do they run? I've listened for them and all I hear is >something that sounds like packet. Is that what it is? Nope. Crank down your filters and check your frequency calibration, then listen for that antique beeping we call Morse. That's the beacons. The packet guys tend to spill over where they shouldn't, so if you don't use really narrow filters you may miss the beacon signals. (IMHO the beacon network would serve us better if it were at the very bottom edge of the band, but that's not where it is, so we have to deal with packet above and RTTY below when listening for the beacons.) Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 13:57:06 1996 From: jbaltz@news.cs.columbia.edu (Jerry B. Altzman) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 3894.5 Date: 10 Mar 1996 21:51:24 -0500 Message-ID: <4i04fc$j8p@tune.cs.columbia.edu> References: <4hoa5e$i4e@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> <4hqgt2$csq@jupiter.planet.net> In article <4hqgt2$csq@jupiter.planet.net>, Steve - KF2TI wrote: >gEE 2 freq's out of hundred's what a comparison. Wait..come to thnk of it I hear that channel 19 on the >ol SIT TER ZENS Band Rad de dio was full of bucket mouths and rachet jawers and yet you don't hear >alot about that now do you???. Yeah, but CB isn't protected by the super-lid-filter known as Morse Code. Please respect the Followup-to: line //jbaltz -- jerry b. altzman Entropy just isn't what it used to be +1 212 650 5617 jbaltz@cs.columbia.edu jbaltz@scisun.sci.ccny.cuny.edu KE3ML From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 13:57:07 1996 From: rst-engr@oro.net (Jim Weir) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Airport/Aircraft Regulations Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 04:33:50 GMT Message-ID: <4hlorv$igt@hg.oro.net> References: <4hd526$7kp@news.one.net> axinar@one.net (Axinar) shared the following priceless pearls of wisdom: >Are you allowed to carry an HT onto a commercial airliner if you don't >use it? Absolutely. >Are you allowed to carry and/or use an HT in an airport? Absolutely. The only caveat here is if somehow your HT is emitting spurious in the aircraft band (118-137 MHz.) the airport manager and/or the FAA friendlies may escort you outside for a short discussion. I've used my Kenwood in airports from JFK to Podunk Int'l and never had a problem. Enjoy your trip. BTW, the rule says that you can't use the HT on board the airplane without the permission of the pilot in command. Unless you happen to luck out and get on an airplane with a ham sitting in the left front seat, this permission is all but impossible to come by from the scheduled airlines. However, if you wanta come sit in the 182 with us some day... Jim Jim Weir VP Engineering | You bet your sweet patootie I speak for the RST Engineering | company. I OWN the cotton-pickin' company. Grass Valley CA 95945 | http://www.rst-engr.com | AR Adv WB6BHI--FCC 1/C phone--Cessna 182A N73CQ rst-engr@oro.net | Commercial/CFI-Airplane/Glider-----A&P Mechanic From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 13:57:08 1996 From: w1aw@arrl.org Newsgroups: rec.radio.info,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: ARLX007 Hams help in train crash Date: 7 Mar 1996 16:37:43 -0500 Message-ID: <$arlx007.1996@arrl.org> SB SPCL @ ARL $ARLX007 ARLX007 Hams help in train crash ZCZC AX53 QST de W1AW Special Bulletin 7 ARLX007 From ARRL Headquarters Newington CT March 7, 1996 To all radio amateurs SB SPCL ARL ARLX007 ARLX007 Hams help in train crash Ham radio stepped in to help after a freight train carrying liquid propane derailed early on the morning of March 4 in Weyauwega, Wisconsin. One tanker car exploded, and others caught on fire. As of March 7, six cars carrying liquid propane were burning. Authorities have evacuated 1700 residents of the town, west of Appleton in Waupaca County, fearing another explosion. Fire officials say the fire may burn for several days, and residents won't be allowed back in until the fire burns itself out. Among those evacuated were residents of two nursing homes. Waupaca County EC Bob Krueger, N9BKF, said the Wisconsin Division of Emergency Government called the hams in immediately after the incident. He reported that ARES volunteers from several counties were working in three shifts around the clock to provide communication for emergency personnel and for the American Red Cross, which has set up two shelters in the town of Waupaca. Krueger, who's also RACES officer for Waupaca County, said the Amateur Radio network is using a couple of 2-meter repeaters to support communication at the incident command post and at a staging area back from the scene. He said ham radio was helping to relieve the burden on the public service communication system and would be available if telephone systems should fail. Hams also were providing health-and-welfare traffic. RACES volunteers were handling long-haul traffic from the scene on 75 meters to the state Division of Emergency Government and the Red Cross in Madison, the state capital. NNNN /EX From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 13:57:09 1996 From: doneal@tcac.com (Dave O'Neal) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Code = Outdated = YE OLDE FAHRTZ Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 03:34:06 GMT Message-ID: <4hll6u$7j4@jupiter.tcac.com> References: <4h7f57$1fso@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <1996Mar3.104411.115251@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> <4he7dd$939@handel.seattleu.edu> Gene Shablygin wrote: >Why do we need to defend our hobby, using arguments like >"public services", etc. YES, Ham Radio can be useful in emergency, >but it is NOT about emergencies! >Why golfers do not try to defend their game, arguing that the >golf ball can be used as an arm (see "Coneheads"). They play >golf because they love it! The same about any other hobby. >You are lucky, if you can find secondary use of the hobby, but >even if you can't... so what?! >I think that it is nothing wrong about preserving Whimbledon >corts from amateurs, who started to play tennis two weeks ago. >And if you DO NOT WANT to learn, how to serve, do not complain, >if you will never join the Grand Slam tournament. The same with >code. YES, I do not see any SERIOUS practical use of it. But >for us it is a part of the hobby, and without code a ham is like >a tennis player without serice. Do we need any other arguments? >I personally enjoy working CW. Unlike many of my friends, the >code for me was a DIFFICULT task, and it takes me several years >to practice it, until I became able to work seriously. But I >am proud, that in one day, I passed all my US exams, from novice >to extra, including code, of course (my case is unusual, comparing >to others, because I had Russian Extra class license for a long >time... but in Russia it was possible, having good friends, get >a license without any exams). >So let's use code on HF, as a part of the rules of the game! >73 >Gene AB5GY / RA3AA CONGRATULATIONS! You have invested many hours/days learning a skill that is as useless as it is outdated! Should I send you some info. on how to build a spark gap transmitter? From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 13:57:11 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: Code = Outdated = YE OLDE FAHRTZ Message-ID: <1996Mar11.172049.11324@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: <4h7f57$1fso@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <1996Mar3.104411.115251@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> <4i0den$9r0@arl-news-svc-2.compuserve.com> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 17:20:49 GMT In article <4i0den$9r0@arl-news-svc-2.compuserve.com> 73700.12@compuserve.com (Jim Nuytens) writes: > >Maybe I'm crazy (maybe?...hell..definately!), but I can't see what either >contesting or DX chasing had to do with making Amateur Radio better. If just >1/2 of the time these people spent on such nonsense was channeled into making >genuine advancements in the radio art, Ham Radio would be at the fore-front >in technology like it used to be. Somewhere along the way we've lost our >"edge" and I don't see it returning any time soon. Let's not be too hard on our postal card collecting brethren. They do serve as a test load on the spectrum, they do make harsh demands on radio equipment, and they do spend tons of money. All that motivates the manufacturers to keep trying to make better radios, and we all benefit from that. You and I may think collecting postal cards via contentless exchanges on the radio is pointless, but it is the motivation that keeps Dxers reaching into the wallet, and that helps keep the amateur manufacturers and publishers in business. And some few Dxers also build and experiment, trying for a competitive edge against their appliance operator adversaries, especially at UHF+, and that's helpful too. When we think of Dxers, we usually picture the Texas kilowatts on HF trashing a fair chunk of spectrum just to make yet another contentless contact for score, but there are others who could be called Dxers, doing EME, doing grid squares, doing microwave, etc who really are pushing the edges of the envelope. Does it really matter what motivates them to do this, as long as it's done, and the benefits trickle down to the masses? Read through the Proceedings of the Central States VHF Conferences some time. That's the work of a sort of Dxer, and there's some good work there. Even on HF, there are those who attempt to use finese instead of brute force to run up their score. We see RTTY, and now PACTOR and Clover, Dxers, mostly running low power and using science instead of brute force to tickle their signals across the ether. That's very good. And even the CW QRP operators often make contributions, trying to eliminate that last bit of loss, and trying to squeeze that last bit of gain, out of their antennas and feeds. The operator skills that they develop may be irrelevant today, but some of the technical work they do isn't totally wasted. And they do it all for the sake of a little piece of cardboard. Cheap at twice the price I'd call it. You and I may not need that external validation in order to motivate us to do interesting things with radio, but the Dxer does, and we should accept that. In this certificate and diploma driven world, we may be the ones out of step. That's Ok too, not being in need of external validation, we don't *care* if we're out of step, we're following our own drummer. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 13:57:12 1996 From: MIKEKC5GJN@AOL.COM Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Convincing Arguments for CW Tests in 1996 Date: 10 Mar 1996 06:39:57 GMT Message-ID: <4httft$kbd@news.cis.okstate.edu> References: <604516@450.chatlink.com> In article <604516@450.chatlink.com>, Smokey@sys450.chatlink.com wrote: >Message-ID: <604516@450.chatlink.com> >From: Smokey@sys450.chatlink.com >Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc >Path: news.cis.okstate.edu!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!paladin.american.edu!hookup!news.kei. com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.chatlink.com!netaccess >Date: 08 Mar 1996 20:48:01 PST >Subject: Re: Convincing Arguments for CW Tests in 1996 >Lines: 16 >Status: N > >Yes code is required for hf operation however.! > as I understand the intenational laws which were written governing >morse code as a requiremnet only 5 WPM's is all that is requred to be >able to operate on the hf bands. the ITU has left it up t the individaul >country's to decided what frequneices to allow hams who excedd the 5 wpm >test to be allowed to operate. >for example the USA could decided 5 wpm is all that is required for >operations on ALL HF amuater bands and not even have a genearl or >advacned or extra class . but instead call it something like experinced >class or some thing along that line. my point is that all this mess >about novice and general and advancded and extra need not be if the >powers to be that run the fed. govt choose to listen to the people and >allow ALL people who pass a 5 wpm code test all HF privalges.! > > DE KN4SB > I really dont understand all the whinning about code. I dont care for code myself but I passed the 13 wpm so I could get in the voice part of HF. If I decide thats not enough then I guess ill just work on my code and bring up my speed to 20 wpm because thats the rules to the game. If you dont like the rules dont play! Ham radio is a hobby and CW is just part of learning the hobby. Youre an advanced class opp, why does it bother you? It didnt kill you. 73 Mike KC5GJN From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 13:57:13 1996 From: paulc@esslink.com (Paul A. Cianciolo) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: CW decoder? Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 14:38:33 GMT Message-ID: <4hvuec$hrc@news.esslink.com> Hello All Does anyone know of a shareware or freeware cw decoder? thanks alot for any help PaulC KB1RP From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 13:57:14 1996 From: joe2tpd Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Definition: CB extra class Date: 8 Mar 1996 19:30:26 GMT Message-ID: <4hq1si$ctf@ns2.ptd.net> guess@who.com writes: > A person who is too lazy to make an effort to learn morse code. > no a person too lazy to take any test!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 13:57:15 1996 From: tomcar@newshost.li.net (Tom Carrubba) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: FCC rules for cordless phones Date: 7 Mar 1996 03:13:42 GMT Message-ID: <4hlk96$8gd@linet06.li.net> References: Charles R. Sufana (sufana@ceco.ceco.com) wrote: : Does anyone know what FCC rule governs cordless phones? I have been : asked by a lawyer who is on some case that an Indiana law : is being used that lists "Citizen Radio Service Channel" in the wording. : I think this might be something with cordless phones or perhaps Citizen : Band radio (I don't know what FCC ruling that is under either). : Thanks in advance. : 73s, : Charlie Sufana AJ9N Internet sufana@ceco.ceco.com (preferred) : tsdys@ccmail.ceco.com (secondary) : ComEd - A Div. of Unicom (formerly Commonwealth Edison Co.) : Work address: ComEd, System Protection Dept. 1039E, 125 S. Clark St., : P.O. Box 767, Chicago, Il. 60690 : Work phone: (312) 394-2815, work fax: (312) 394-4583 : Who are you going to call? Fault busters! : : FCC Field Operations Bureau Get their FOB Bulletin No.10 Telephone Interference Published 1987 REVISED EDITION JUNE 1992 Also available from FCC via ftp is a revised TVI book... ftp.fcc.gov /Bureaus/Compliance/WWW/tvibook.html http://www.fcc.gov/Bureaus/Compliance/WWW/tvibook.html GL, 73 ============================================================================ Tom Carrubba "To err is human, but to really foul N. Babylon, NY things up requires a computer......" KA2DFO packet radio| ka2dfo@kc2fd.ny.usa.na ============================================================================ From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 13:57:16 1996 From: Russell Chandler Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Forget the Morse Code past? A good idea??? Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 11:29:16 -0500 Message-ID: References: <4hnk22$kr@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> <1996Mar9.135807.29697@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4i0tal$n0j@news.sas.ab.ca> I will also agree with your posted statement. I enjoyed the code practice sessions which helped me to pass my 5 wpm element on the exam. I am a newly licensed amateur and am looking foward to the time that I can put a CW station on the air. I am proud of my skill that allows me to copy code. Personally I would have it no other way.... Russell / KF4HKB From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 13:57:16 1996 Date: 06 Mar 1996 21:07:00 +0100 From: k.schubert@cq-dx.priconet.de (Knut Schubert) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Message-ID: <64KAQ-QqXLB@cq-dx.priconet.de> Subject: Hi Hello I want to say Hi to all Hams in the world .. from DG4ACR 73&55 Knut ## CrossPoint v3.1 ## From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 13:57:17 1996 From: Bootlegger@msn.com (Robert Young) Subject: RE: Hr2600 MODS Date: 11 Mar 96 16:04:19 -0800 References: <4hnhte$30@ohnasn01.sinet.slb.com> Message-ID: <00001fef+00004165@msn.com> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Bob, There are two ways to mod your radio. You can contact Uniden and request a UC-1250 CPU and replace the original one. Then cut pins 34 & 35 from ground and solder both to pin 33 and you will get full coverage. You will loose the repater offset feature though. There is an aftermarket chip sold by Chip Switch that sells for about $50.00 that would give you full coverage and repeater offsets. I suggest you buy the Chip Switch as it gives you more bang for your buck. You can reach Chip Switch at (707)539-0512. 73 de N9MSS Bob From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 13:57:18 1996 From: lcarpent@freenet (Lennard Carpenter) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Info on Rat Shack Comp 100 Scanner Date: 7 Mar 1996 01:41:11 GMT Message-ID: <4hlern$ksa@brain.npiec.on.ca> Need programming info or manual for the above scanner Thansk -- // Amiga Corporation! // The Buttheads Blew IT! \\ // Len Carpenter \X/ ( lcarpent@freenet.npiec.on.ca ) A Believer in Welland, Ontario Canada From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 13:57:19 1996 From: msaundrs@ix.netcom.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Motorola HF? Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 03:54:42 GMT Message-ID: <4hlnfi$arb@cloner3.netcom.com> References: <4h574g$g2c@news.inc.net> n7fzy@netcom.com (Dave Whitlock) wrote: >I just received a new MediaWare to Beta test the new software they have >added for gatewaying into a packet network. The ALE radio that came >with it is a TransWorld TW-7000. >It should be interesting to try this sucker out. >-- >Dave G. Whitlock >n7fzy@netcom.com >PAC004@NHQ181.CAWG.PAC.CAP.GOV I would be interested in trying out a beta test version of this Mediaware software on our new packet station. It is available to the general public? I would also like to know how the radio that was sent with it works. -- Mike KC6RSF From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 13:57:21 1996 From: larry@ (Larry Schroeder) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Operating Amateur Radio in Mexico Date: 11 Mar 1996 17:12:46 GMT Message-ID: <4i1mue$g6s@ausnews.austin.ibm.com> References: <199603110009.TAA01912@lucky.innet.com> Reply-To: lschroeder@vnet.ibm.com (Larry Schroeder) In <199603110009.TAA01912@lucky.innet.com>, "Richard J. Bolack" writes: >Message-Id: <199603110009.TAA01912@lucky.innet.com> >From: "Richard J. Bolack" >Date: Sun, 10 Mar 96 19:01:37 -800 >Subject: Operating Amateur Radio in Mexico > >I am trying to learn how I can get permission to operate on two meters in Mex ico. >I plan to travel to Guadalajara in April and to live in Mexico for several mo nths. >I hold a Technician Plus licence. The FCC could not give me much information . I >wrote to the Mexican Consulate, however, I have not received a reply and time is >running out. Any help you can give will be greatly appreciated. > >Thank you, > >Elsie Bolack (KB4NRP) > I would suggest contacting the ARRL or the nearest Mexican Embasy etc. The ARRL keeps copies of the forms and address you need to mail them to to get tempory operator rights in most countries. I do not know the rules for Mexico, but you must fill out some paperwork and send it in to get the right to operator in Mexico. Larry Schroeder lschroeder@vnet.ibm.com KD4HSL From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 13:57:22 1996 From: mcs@crl.com (Nicholas McLarty) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy Subject: Re: Radios at Atlanta Olympics Date: 6 Mar 1996 19:29:34 -0800 Message-ID: <4hll6u$mbb@crl6.crl.com> References: <4heuc1$7js@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> <4hlfka$iu1@B1FF.mindspring.com> Jeff Otterson (otterson@mindspring.com) wrote: : would have to buy tickets in his own country, since New Mexico was not : in the United States. The ticket seller's supervisor was kind enough When did this happen? Have I been sleeping for a century? :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ NICHOLAS R. McLARTY, C/TSgt, AFJROTC mcs@crl.com Texas 882nd AFJROTC Group: San Antonio, TX Amateur Radio Operator - KC5IUZ Official Emergency Station - South Texas Section, ARRL PGP Fingerprint 64 29 66 2B B4 53 C2 8D 33 73 A7 33 16 78 D1 05 Personal Home Page http://www.crl.com/~mcs TX-882 AFJROTC Web Page Appendix http://sparc2.umeres.maine.edu:5000 From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:21:51 1996 From: Steve Butler Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 'cell driving' illegal Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 11:58:04 -0800 Message-ID: References: <4h72d6$ep3@acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us> <4hdbpb$g79@jupiter.planet.net> <4hkhel$5jo@news1.inlink.com> On Wed, 6 Mar 1996 raiar@inlink.com wrote: > Steve Butler wrote: > >One wonders how the deaf ever manage to drive. Certainly they should be > >required to hear before getting a license! > > ><> > > Our hearing impared friends on the highways don't bother me as much as > those who cannot see or are totally oblivious to anyone else on the > road. Oh dear! I hope everyone say the sarcasm in my voice regarding the legislature. If the deaf can drive well (which there is no doubt in my mind that they indeed do drive well) without heearing, then the legislature is grasping at straws to complain when the rest of us can't hear. If they are making these rules for another reason, then lack of hearing well shouldn't be the pat answer! +----------------------------------------------------+ | Steve Butler Voice: 206-464-2998 | | The Seattle Times Fax: 206-382-8898 | | PO Box 70 Internet: sbut-is@seatimes.com | | Seattle, WA 98111 Packet: KG7JE@N6EQZ.WA | +----------------------------------------------------+ All standard and non-standard disclaimers apply. All other sources are annonymous. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:21:52 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: sorgatz@avatar.tti.com (Erik K.Sorgatz) Subject: Re: 'cell driving' illegal Message-ID: References: <4h72d6$ep3@acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us> <1996Mar4.165849.13763@schbbs.mot.com> Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 01:27:36 GMT In article <1996Mar4.165849.13763@schbbs.mot.com> o10022@a81.corp.mot.com wri tes: > >Regardless, I for one strongly would prefer to see stern laws made >and enforced against using hand-held phones (or "like" devices) while >driving. > >Tony KC7HDT WHY? Just because the common morons can't operate a phone and drive at the same time you want to penalize the rest of us? Sounds absurd to me! sorgatz@avatar.tti.com (or:es@soldev.tti.com) KB6LUY (private email:eks@westwo rld.com) TTI 3100 Ocean Park Blvd. Santa Monica, CA 90405 "ANY COMMENTS OR STATEMENTS MADE ARE NOT NECESSARILY THOSE OF CITICORP, ITS SU BSIDIARIES OR AFFILIATES." (Copyright 1995, ARR-permission to store/archive hereby grante d) From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:21:53 1996 From: randolph@est.enet.dec.com (Tom Randolph) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 'cell driving' illegal Date: 13 MAR 96 09:04:31 Message-ID: <4i6l0d$d6j@mrnews.mro.dec.com> References: <4h72d6$ep3@acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us> <1996Mar4.165849.13763@schbbs.mot.com> <4i4npd$f2d@crash.microserve.net> In article <4i4npd$f2d@crash.microserve.net>, jackl@pinetree.microserve.com (W B3U) writes... >Some states still have laws that allow ticketing a driver who doesn't >have both hands on the wheel. The real moron is the guy who doesn't Which works just fine so long as your car has an automatic transmission. You can't drive a standard with both hands on the wheel at all times. Remember this next time your politicians pass yet another law. ObRadio: I put it down when the driving situation requires it. You can't legislate brains. ============================================================================== Tom Randolph N1OOQ NE-QRP 419 QRP-L 87 ARRL randolph@est.enet.dec.com ============================================================================== From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:21:54 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: 'cell driving' illegal Message-ID: <1996Mar13.165008.21793@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: <4h72d6$ep3@acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us> <4hdbpb$g79@jupiter.planet.net> <4hkhel$5jo@news1.inlink.com> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 16:50:08 GMT In article Steve Butler writes: >On Wed, 6 Mar 1996 raiar@inlink.com wrote: >> Steve Butler wrote: >> >One wonders how the deaf ever manage to drive. Certainly they should be >> >required to hear before getting a license! >> >> ><> >> >> Our hearing impared friends on the highways don't bother me as much as >> those who cannot see or are totally oblivious to anyone else on the >> road. > >Oh dear! I hope everyone say the sarcasm in my voice regarding the >legislature. If the deaf can drive well (which there is no doubt in my >mind that they indeed do drive well) without heearing, then the >legislature is grasping at straws to complain when the rest of us can't >hear. If they are making these rules for another reason, then lack of >hearing well shouldn't be the pat answer! The deaf driver is acutely aware of his sensory deficit, and has developed coping strategies in order to compensate for the lack. The average hearing person has not developed those coping strategies, so when their hearing is impaired by headsets, they will not drive as safely as the deaf person. And because they *can* hear, and *are* listening to something unrelated to their driving, their attention is divided so that they are not concentrating on their driving the way a deaf person, undistracted by music or voices, would be. Now a headset wearing hearing driver *might* develop coping strategies to deal with the self-imposed sensory deficit, and a hearing driver *might* be so competent that he can afford to divide his attention while driving, but that seems unlikely on average. Hence the laws. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:21:55 1996 From: brent@network.ucsd.edu (Brent Jones) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 'cell driving' illegal Date: 13 Mar 1996 08:20:28 -0800 Message-ID: <4i6skcINN98u@network.ucsd.edu> References: <4h72d6$ep3@acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us> <1996Mar4.165849.13763@schbbs.mot.com> In article sorgatz@avatar.tti.com (Erik K.Sorgatz ) writes: > > WHY? Just because the common morons can't operate a phone and drive at the >same time you want to penalize the rest of us? Sounds absurd to me! Hear hear! I agree. And I can drink a beer and drive responsibly too. I hate it that I'm penalized along with all the other morons that can't drink and drive responsibly... Not that I agree with outlawing talking on the phone and driving, but the above argument is a bit absurd. Perhaps we should just outlaw morons... Brent From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:21:56 1996 From: quake.xnet.COM@xnet.COM (Dave Yanke) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: (Fwd) Ham-Homebrew Digest V96 #101 Date: 13 Mar 96 12:33:01 GMT Message-ID: <199603131233.GAA05650@flood.xnet.com> I NEED HELP!!! I teach code/theory classes for my local club. I have some younger hams who don't yet have access to HF/SW rigs for code practice. In my are there used to be a ham, N9CLL, who did code practice on 2m FM simplex. He's moved and I need help connecting my computer to a Yaesu FT2200. He used SuperMorse and a similar rig. I'm told the circuit needed includes an audio transformer from Radio Shack but that's about it. I'm not sure how to wire it up. Help would be greatly appreciated. 73 de n9ssg David A. Yanke EMail: n9ssg@xnet.com "I want to die like my grandfather, quietly, in my sleep. Not screaming in terror like his passengers." Messages shipped by weight, not content. Settling may occur during shipping. Any resemblence to original thought and/or wit, purely coincidental. Should only be used under adult supervision. David A. Yanke EMail: n9ssg@xnet.com "I want to die like my grandfather, quietly, in my sleep. Not screaming in terror like his passengers." Messages shipped by weight, not content. Settling may occur during shipping. Any resemblence to original thought and/or wit, purely coincidental. Should only be used under adult supervision. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:21:57 1996 From: n5ejs@linknet.net Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: (Ham stressors - Burp Fisher) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 15:32:11 GMT Message-ID: <4hs92i$oc6@news.linknet.net> References: <3142BF21.402@ccsnet.com> Reply-To: n5ejs@linknet.net Burt Fisher wrote: :>Here is the list of stressors, along with their relative weights, from Drs. :>Thomas H. Holmes and Richard H. Rahe, psychiatrists at the University of :>Washington Medical School. K1OIK made certain additions: Poor Burp, still trying to be lower then whale dung. They tightened your posts up on RIME network I see. What happened to all those threats about bombing the network from telnetable BBS? From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:21:59 1996 From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: (Ham stressors - Burp Fisher) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 06:13:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3146ADED.21EE@ccsnet.com> References: <3142BF21.402@ccsnet.com> <4hs92i$oc6@news.linknet.net> To: n5ejs@linknet.net n5ejs@linknet.net wrote: > Poor Burp, still trying to be lower then whale dung. They tightened > your posts up on RIME network I see. What happened to all those > threats about bombing the network from telnetable BBS? My local BBS finally dropped RIME as there was nothing there. I can get access in other ways but it seems not to be worth the effort but maybe I will just for you and will give you credit for my return. Plus if I bomb the network I will give you credi for motivating me. I hope your recent birthday was happy , Russ and you and I share getting our license on D-Day. We are soul mates? #================#=====================================================# | Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | | Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | | K1OIK | If you sit on the fence, it is a pain in the butt | #================#=====================================================# | k1oik@ccsnet.com | #======================================================================# You cannot build a reputation on what you are going to do. Henry Ford From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:21:59 1996 From: st11@ita.pwr.wroc.PL (Paul) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: (none) Date: 11 Mar 96 10:05:52 GMT Message-ID: <199603111007.CAA09424@UCSD.EDU> subscribe From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:00 1996 From: AH.DCM@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU (D. Craig Miller) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: (none) Date: 15 Mar 96 00:09:27 GMT Message-ID: <199603150248.SAA27439@UCSD.EDU> subscribe To: INFO-HAMS@UCSD.EDU From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:01 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 14100 kHz beacons Message-ID: <976@safn8.UUCP> From: pmm@safn2.saf.com (Penn McClatchey) Date: 11 Mar 96 13:41:38 GMT References: <313FA717.735B@algonet.se> <4hr1ep$38t@acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us> Summary: what mode? In article <4hr1ep$38t@acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us>, gfoley@freenet.columbus.o h.us (Gerard Foley) writes: > Ingvar Eriksson (ie@algonet.se) wrote: > : Can anyone tell me what stations are involved in the 14100kHz beacon net? ..... > successive levels of 100, 10, 1, 0.1 and 0.01 watt. The transmitters > are all the same. What mode do they run? I've listened for them and all I hear is something that sounds like packet. Is that what it is? -- Penn M. McClatchey (Southern Aluminum Finishing Co, Atlanta, GA, USA) ** Value truth and the speaking of it. ** "The secret of being a bore is to tell all." - Voltaire pmm@saf.com http://www.saf.com Am Radio WB4DPT Voice:404-355-1560,ext231 From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:02 1996 From: stan@mutadv.com (Stan Huntting) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 14100 kHz beacons Date: 11 Mar 1996 16:01:53 GMT Message-ID: <4i1iph$peb@news-2.csn.net> References: <313FA717.735B@algonet.se> <4hr1ep$38t@acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us> <976@safn8.UUCP> In article <976@safn8.UUCP>, pmm@safn2.saf.com says... >What mode do they run? I've listened for them and all I hear is >something that sounds like packet. Is that what it is? No Penn, the beacon stations are NOT running HF packet, but your concern is legitimate - even if it IS good for an ironic chuckle. The beacons are CW, wit h a CW morse ID at the beginning and end of each station's time slot. The HF packet you hear is HF packet. This comes from the automated forwarding systems - or, automated QRM systems. In this case, they are operating so close to the beacon frequency as to make the beacons unusable to many receivers. The bitter irony is: most of the sysops of these stations don't even know what frequency they are operating on. They think they are two or three kHz away fro m the beacon frequency! This is the legacy of early HF AFSK operating when these stations used LSB transmitters and arranged their scheduled frequencies around their SSB transceivers' indicated VFO frequency. That, for a transceiver in LSB mode, is the suppressed carrier frequency - a useful concept for voice SSB operating, but hardly useful for FSK signals in the CW/data sub-band. Poll these sysop's and you'll be lucky to find a handfull who can tell you what two discreet RF frequencies their HF packet transmissions shift between - note that the question refers to RF, not AF frequency... and we wonder why we can't hear the beacons on their "protected" frequencies. 73, Stan -- Stan Huntting, KF0IA Email: stan@mutadv.com Fax: 303 444 2314 KaWin home page: http://www.mutadv.com/kawin/ Postal address: 4655 Pleasant Ridge Rd., Boulder, CO 80301-1731, USA From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:04 1996 From: gfoley@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Gerard Foley) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 14100 kHz beacons Date: 11 Mar 1996 22:57:24 -0500 Message-ID: <4i2sn4$p55@acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us> References: <313FA717.735B@algonet.se> <4hr1ep$38t@acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us> <976@safn8.UUCP> <1996Mar11.173846.11451@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Gary Coffman (gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us) wrote: : In article <976@safn8.UUCP> pmm@safn2.saf.com (Penn McClatchey) writes: : >In article <4hr1ep$38t@acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us>, gfoley@freenet.columbu s.oh.us (Gerard Foley) writes: : >> Ingvar Eriksson (ie@algonet.se) wrote: : >> : Can anyone tell me what stations are involved in the 14100kHz beacon ne t? : >..... : >> successive levels of 100, 10, 1, 0.1 and 0.01 watt. The transmitters : >> are all the same. : > : >What mode do they run? I've listened for them and all I hear is : >something that sounds like packet. Is that what it is? : Nope. Crank down your filters and check your frequency calibration, : then listen for that antique beeping we call Morse. That's the beacons. : The packet guys tend to spill over where they shouldn't, so if you don't : use really narrow filters you may miss the beacon signals. (IMHO the : beacon network would serve us better if it were at the very bottom : edge of the band, but that's not where it is, so we have to deal with : packet above and RTTY below when listening for the beacons.) Haven't checked today, but I thought that when unattended automatic stations were permitted (without STA) they were forbidden to be on 14100 KHz. Of course, if the operators pretend they are not unattended, they can trash anybody. Gerry K8EF From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:05 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: 14100 kHz beacons Message-ID: <1996Mar12.164506.16318@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: <313FA717.735B@algonet.se> <4hr1ep$38t@acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us> <976@safn8.UUCP> <1996Mar11.173846.11451@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4i2sn4$p55@acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 16:45:06 GMT In article <4i2sn4$p55@acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us> gfoley@freenet.columbus.oh .us (Gerard Foley) writes: > > Haven't checked today, but I thought that when unattended automatic >stations were permitted (without STA) they were forbidden to be on 14100 >KHz. Of course, if the operators pretend they are not unattended, they >can trash anybody. Their *tone* frequencies may be above 14.1 MHz, but their *sidebands* sometimes aren't. Too many operators seem to think that because the tones are separated by 200 Hz, that they are only occupying 200 Hz. Not so, of course, because the sidebands extend out a multiple of the modulation rate (baud), so they're occupying at least 600 Hz (and more) when they transmit. If they aren't careful, this will spill over onto 14.100 MHz. Receiver filters aren't perfect either, and they pass some signal above 14.100 MHz when tuned to that frequency. So even if the packeteers are operating legally, they can still cause problems for those trying to listen to 14.100 MHz. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:07 1996 From: pmarkham@sun.lssu.edu (Peter Markham) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 3894.5 Date: Mon, 11 Mar 96 17:59:57 GMT Message-ID: <4i1po2$a4o@onramp.freeway.net> References: <4hmsv9$d2h@huron.eel.ufl.edu> <4hoa5e$i4e@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> <4htcde$jnk@onramp.freeway.net> <4htl9s$1lgk@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> wa4hei sez: >>can only watch from the porch. Chances are, the "scum" earned the >>privelege to be on that frequency, regardless of the "porkbutt" and >"jam". kf4dmm sez: >Would you please explain to me how one goes about "earning the privilege" >to cause malicious interference to other stations and use profanity? >Both of these activities are clearly prohibited in Part 97 but commonly >practiced on 3894.5. > >-Drew in Sunny Central Florida- > KF4DDM > At the risk of squandering a piece of my life, for no gain, I will explain: First read my previous post, again. You can read into what I write, anything you wish. It is your right. Do not, however, expect me sanction your drivel above, when in plain English I said "earned the priviledge to be on that frequency" qualified with "regardless of the "porkbutt" and "jam". That means, in another way you may understand, if the "scum" associated your mother with a Cocker Spaniel, in their conversations on 3894.5, and, at the same time, someone was creating malicious interference on that frequency, it would have no relation, whatsoever, to the process that most of the operators on 3894.5 had to complete to be licenced to operate on 3894.5. The fact that the "jerks" have not lived up to several of the operating requirements, of that licence, is an issue that in no way is related to earning the licence priviledges. In retrospect, you could make the argument that the "scum" lied. It would appear that neither you, your friends, nor the Fed are doing doing anything about it, for many reasons. Thats life. To read what you took issue with, into my previous post, out of context, required a degree of ignorance and stupidity that I cannot relate to. You are another that bites the helping hand, that brushes away the cobwebs of fuzzy thinking. No wonder the talent in the amateur community, has, to a great extent, gone onto other things, rather than waste their lives standing along side their ungrateful comrades. Some have even become big dogs. My advice to you, Drew: Stay on the porch and whine. You do not have the brains to piss with the big dogs, and you are not bright enough to know who your friends are. On with the rest of my life Pete, wa4hei From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:08 1996 From: adell@planet.net ( Steve - KF2TI) Landing, NJ Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 3894.5 Date: 8 Mar 1996 23:46:41 GMT Message-ID: <4hqgt2$csq@jupiter.planet.net> References: <4hoa5e$i4e@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> > VUBS79A@prodigy.com (Drew Durigan) writes: > afn29443@afn.org (john p. sumner) wrote: > > > >-- > > Who are these clowns on this freq.? all i hear all nite is porkbutt > and > > people trying to jam each other big time what a bunch of jerks. > > > Me, too. And I thought only no-coders were responsible for this kind of > thing. I mean, here these guys have at least 13WPM..."real hams", in > other words, and yet they're some of the worst scum to be found on the > amateur bands. Imagine that! > > -Drew in Sunny Central Florida- > KF4DDM > > >>>> ZZZZzzzzZZZZzzz snxxxx wha huh??? oh it's only Drew in the land of real old e people gEE 2 freq's out of hundred's what a comparison. Wait..come to thnk of it I hear that channel 19 on the ol SIT TER ZENS Band Rad de dio was full of bucket mouths and rachet jawers a nd yet you don't hear alot about that now do you???. But if you think of it, these Bad boys of ham radio will never be joined by th e likes of Drew and his no code/no nothing ilk, so it can't be all bad Get a life and type about something else..this is really really REALLY stale No code or Know code 3 more years of pissing and moaning Give it a break Dre we, your beginning to sound like an Olde Phart who can't remember if he went to the bathroom or not From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:09 1996 From: forrest.gehrke@cencore.com (FORREST GEHRKE) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 3894.5 Message-ID: <8BCC320.014C0013A5.uuout@cencore.com> Date: Fri, 15 Mar 96 13:20:00 -0300 Distribution: world Reply-To: forrest.gehrke@cencore.com (FORREST GEHRKE) References: DD> Me, too. And I thought only no-coders were responsible for this DD> kind of thing. I mean, here these guys have at least 13WPM..."real DD> hams", in other words, and yet they're some of the worst scum to be DD> found on the amateur bands. Imagine that! I have heard from an ARRL official that some of the worst examples are holders of Extra Class. These are the people one would expect should be the best examples for following good practice. --k2bt (Extra class) * RM 1.3 02583 * if (sizeof(shoe) == sizeof(foot)) wear_it(); From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:10 1996 From: oo7@astro.as.utexas.edu (Derek Wills) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: 3DA0 and HC8 routes Date: 14 Mar 1996 21:55:54 GMT Message-ID: <4ia4la$n07@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> >>Does anyone have QSL routes for 3DA0CA or DL5XX/HC8? 3DA0CA is via callbook address, DL5XX/HC8 is via DL5XX. A cheaper way of getting an HC8 card is via me if you worked HC8N or WN4KKN/HC8 at any time. KKN made 7250 Qs with the USA in ARRL-SSB, he's hard to miss. Derek AA5BT, G3NMX oo7@astro.as.utexas.edu From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:10 1996 From: acopac@hope.netwizards.net Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: a - where/when 1st ham repeater? Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 23:44:34 GMT Message-ID: <4hvpfq$bc3@news.wco.com> References: <313F1037.7291@macshasta.com> Jane, When I got my license in 1962 - WB6AAE was already on the air FM 2 meters for a number of years. So I think between that and the Mt. Lee repeater in LAX One is the oldest - If memory serves me right I thonk the first repeater was around 1956 or 8... Noland WB6CKT was WR6ABY when the FCC license repeaters with different calls From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:12 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: w6go@netcom.com (Jay O'Brien - W6GO) Subject: Re: a - where/when 1st ham repeater? Message-ID: References: <313F1037.7291@macshasta.com> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 20:29:17 GMT jenglish (jenglish@macshasta.com) wrote: : Our local YL net entertains itself with a weekly amateur radio : "trivia" question. This week it is "where, when and near what famous : landmark was the first amateur radio repeater used?" I don't know if it was the "first", but my article on page 27 of the December 1961 QST describes the AM repeater we set up on July 29-30, 1961. Unattended repeaters were not allowed at that time. I am positive of that because the FCC read my article and required me to prove that the repeater was attended during all of the time it was operational. I proved that with pictures and my (mobile) log, which they confiscated for several weeks and returned with a thank-you letter. 73, Jay (ex-W6GDO) w6go@netcom.com -- From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:13 1996 From: rice@ttd.teradyne.com (John Rice) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: RE: Airport/Aircraft Regulations Date: 11 Mar 96 16:41:25 CDT Message-ID: <1996Mar11.164125.1@ttd.teradyne.com> References: <4hd526$7kp@news.one.net> <00001fef+0000415c@msn.com> In article <00001fef+0000415c@msn.com>, J_Towle@msn.com (Jeffrey Towle) writes : > John, > > The regulations against using handhelds on the aircraft are > comparable to fears about walking under ladders, or stepping on > cracks in the sidewalk. Unfortunately, the regulations have the > weight of law once you step into the aircraft. > > Over the years, I've used 2-meter radios on commercial flights (after > asking permission) and it is interesting, even if you only listen to > the number of repeaters you can hear simultaneously. So, to me this only means that you (and the ATP that thought he had the authority to give you permission) look pretty dumb. > The basic problem is that airlines have lots of things to worry > about, Like passenger safety ? > and if an aircraft did crash, and a ham was onboard using a > radio, you can be sure than an attorney somewhere would say that it > was the radio that caused the problem, or the airlines should have > known about the radio (even if it had nothing whatever to do with > problems). It is based on the same sort of science that says brain > tumors result from using mobile phones. Spoken by someone who 'absolutely' doesn't know what he's talking about. Go get an education kid and then come back and blow your smoke. I have personally seen: A. A VOR reciever give false heading readings when a 2MTR talkie was transmitting (various failures from partial to full scale deflection of the indicator, to loss of lock entirely). B. A DME failure when a 450HT was transmitting. Not once, or in just one Airplane, but a number of times under a number of conditions. It happens, it can KILL you. You're STUPID.............. ------ John Rice __|__ K9IJ | rice@ttd.teradyne.com ________(*)________ | o/ \o | Private Pilot : ASEL, AMEL, IA | "I speak for myself, not my employer". From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:14 1996 From: gfoley@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Gerard Foley) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Airport/Aircraft Regulations Date: 11 Mar 1996 22:49:02 -0500 Message-ID: <4i2s7e$n7l@acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us> References: <4he5b3$i71@nadine.teleport.com> <4hganr$qvh@newsbf02.news.aol.com> DeNoid95X (denoid95x@aol.com) wrote: : Thats a grat idea never thought of it when on a airliner to set it to NOAA : thanks for the idea : N9RLR/2 USAir do not like any kind of radio receiver to be operated in the cabin at any time. Gerry K8EF From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:15 1996 From: tiburch@halcyon.com (Terry Burch) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: AM antennas??? Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 05:57:51 GMT Message-ID: <4i8cb3$jo7@news.halcyon.com> Hi all, I tried posting this to the rec.audio.opinion group, but unlike most matters in that group :-), I have yet to get any opinions. Does anyone in this group have any advice? I have severe static-like interference on the low end of the AM band. I have tried the "long wire" AM antenna method and with an antenna 50 feet long the reception still has not improved . What I think I need is a selective AM antenna which will ignore some of the static I am picking up. I have been looking at the Terk AM FM Q and the Terk PI, as well as the Parsec Model 2000 AM/FM. Has anyone had any experience with these antennas? Have they made a difference in the reduction of AM static that you were getting? Terry tiburch@halcyon.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:17 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: Amateur Radio/Internet Message-ID: <1996Mar11.162735.11030@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: <4i02gn$nfk@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 16:27:35 GMT In article <4i02gn$nfk@newsbf02.news.aol.com> johnn0isl@aol.com (John N0ISL) w rites: >There has been much discussion about the slow rate of growth of amateur >radio. One of the more interesting theories is that those that would be >hams are instead becoming avid netters. Here is an anecdote to >consider.... In the last 5 years, the US amateur growth rate has been very satisfactory, at percentage levels equal to the days before amateur growth was crippled by Incentive Licensing. And that is occurring at the same time as the growth and popularization of the internet. So I don't think the growth of the internet is harmful to amateur radio. It's a separate track, in some ways a parallel track, to amateur radio. In fact, I might suggest that the internet has served as a recruiting tool for amateur radio in some respects. Many people have gotten their first taste of digital operation on the internet and then go on to play with wireless digital operation via amateur radio. (Of course if amateur digital practice continues to lag the technology used on the internet for too long, that may cease. The internet has seen rapidly rising speeds and dazzling applications while amateur digital has for the most part remained stagnant at low speeds and with limited applications.) The internet is probably irrelevant to the Dx gamers. Doom is a different type of game, and doesn't attract the same mentality, or feed the coffers of the Postal Union the way Dxing does. But the internet, in the form of these usenet groups, has probably exposed internet gamers to the idea of the Dx game and some of them may have ventured to try it. I think the real place where the internet will have an impact on amateur radio is against the amateur radio magazines and newsletters. Already we see web magazines and newsletters, and a lively and sometimes vehement reader feedback mechanism. Even the ARRL has not been immune to the internet's presence. It has now become the primary distribution mechanism for the ARRL Letter, and for bulletins. Can full publications be far behind? Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:18 1996 From: jjo@tekla.fi (Jari Jokiniemi) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Amateur Radio/Internet Date: 11 Mar 1996 14:07:23 GMT Message-ID: References: <4i02gn$nfk@newsbf02.news.aol.com> I guess that internet does indeed take many of those who might otherwise be radio amateurs. Most propably there will be enough of those who are interested in radios to keep the amateur radio service alive. However, we may see some of our priviledges taken away, as our head count gets smaller. -- Jari Jokiniemi, jari.jokiniemi@tekla.fi, OH2MPO, OH3BU Tekla Oy, Koronakatu 1, 02210 Espoo, 90-8879 474 From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:19 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: jlowman@netcom.com (Jim Lowman) Subject: Re: Amateur Radio/Internet Message-ID: References: <4i02gn$nfk@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <4i51n5$1uc@venus.texoma.com> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 19:50:53 GMT Gary Stone (garystone@texoma.com) wrote: : Greetings from Texas, : I have been a ham for about 8 years or so. I have mostly concentrated on : HF, with DXCC, WAS, and WAZ. I have been thrilled with 'twisting the : dials' as long as I can remember. However, the internet has a lot of : promise for me. After very little activity on the ham bands for awhile : (I was on IRC, and I-Phone a lot) I thought I would give the ol' 20 meter : band a try. Within a few minutes I was interupted with carriers, (after : I was using the freq for several minutes), 2 w's started a QSO with each : other right on top of myself and the station I was in QSO with - they : were 59 ++ so I know they could hear me. I could not even carry on a : conversation because of the above and I moved freqs only to experience : the same thing again. I know this is not always the case, but it seems : to me it is more and more the case. : I have been told that I can't use DX nets for DX (my true love) because : 'no REAL Dx'er uses nets.' The 14.195 language on a major DX'pedition is : almost unbearable to me (and the rude ones seem to be the stateside ops). : Every few seconds someone is screaming 'who is on' 'where they : listening' and the 14.195 policeman is another thing altogether. It : seems ham radio has gotten 'different' than what I remember when I : started (only 8 years ago). : I suppose the internet has its problems too, but so far I have found a : lot of friendly people. (There are the flamers too!). Bottom line for : me is that the intrique of radio will always be there for me, but the : internet has very interesting possibilities. I hope common courtesy : becomes more common on the ham bands. I tend to agree with others who have said that the rudeness on the air and on the Net is just a reflection on society itself. On the Net, after a while I learn who has something worthwhile to say, and who the troublemakers are. I stay out of advocacy issues, such as code/no-code, because they waste time and accomplish nothing. I have heard about the various problems on 75 SSB, and 20 was somewhat of a mess 20 years ago. Have you considered QRP operation, or using 17 or 30 meters? I have recently gotten into QRP, and really enjoy it. The operators are much better, and most are true gentlemen, in the sense of hamming years ago. 72/73 de Jim - KF6CR From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:20 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Amateur Radio/Internet Message-ID: <1996Mar13.163655.115942@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> From: Bill Date: 13 Mar 96 16:36:54 CST References: <4i02gn$nfk@newsbf02.news.aol.com> To: jjo@tekla.fi We may see some of our frequencies re-allocated, but It won't caused by a lack of " headcount" but rather for lack of the need for our services. Too much competing technology today (GPS, satcom, cellular, etc). I just hope that we can hold on to the HF portion, so that old time radio buffs like myself will still have a place to play with outdated technology! 73s Bill AA4FM/0 Eudora, Kansas, USA From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:21 1996 From: ns@laban.uu.se (Nils) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Amateur Radio/Internet Date: 12 Mar 1996 12:52:16 GMT Message-ID: <4i3s20$1ci0@columba.udac.uu.se> References: <4i02gn$nfk@newsbf02.news.aol.com>,<1996Mar11.162735.11030@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: ns@laban.uu.se In article <1996Mar11.162735.11030@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gar y Coffman) writes: From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:22 1996 From: gherbst@msn.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.antenna Subject: Re: Announsing: Technology Patent Available For Purchase Date: Mon, 11 Mar 96 09:11:20 PDT Message-ID: References: <4hdlvj$kvv@sun.sirius.com> <4hfqtn$6kb@murrow.corp.sgi.com> > Amen, Jim. If this thing works like this guy spells, he's got a tough sell. > > "Announsing", "blatent" and "know one else" indeed. I don't know what his > device is, because searching for the number didn't work for me. Sounds like a > Peltier device, but I guess it could be cold fusion. > > 73, Wes -- N7WS > Always nice to see a couple of smarta*sses on the net..Hi fellows Gerhardt- From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:23 1996 From: "Philip Singley, Jr." Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Antique amateur radio eeuipment Date: 16 Mar 1996 13:31:07 GMT Message-ID: <4iefqr$70n@axe.netdoor.com> To: newsgroup:rec.radio.amateur.misc Looking for a source of antique amateur radio equipment. Any help aappreciaated. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:23 1996 From: k0hb@hamlink.mn.org (Hans Brakob) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Arlb013 question pool Message-ID: <826556975.AA05634@hamlink.mn.org> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 13:18:21 -0100 Gary, KE4ZV, said: GG> GG>Actually, I'd like to see some additional strong voices for the GG>amateur community. A one party state isn't healthy. GG> While ARRL is obviously the most visible "strong voice", don't discount some other fine organizations who very ably represent us, both in "general" terms, and in terms of their "interest group". AMSAT, TAPR, QCWA, and NARA come to mind immediately, and there are several others who should not feel slighted if I overlooked them. 73, de Hans, K0HB From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:24 1996 From: clarke@aztec.asu.edu (JACK CLARKE) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: ARLINGTON,TX HAMFEST -- WHEN? Date: 14 Mar 1996 20:23:55 GMT Message-ID: <4i9v8r$ilj@news.asu.edu> Can someone please post the dates of the Hamfest or HamCom in Arlington, Texas. Thank you. Jack VE3EED/W7 -- From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:25 1996 From: chdaley@kd4lxq.radio.org (Chuck Daley) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Atlanta, GA - Public Service Event List Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 02:05:33 GMT Message-ID: <314389c5.169288461@news.radio.org> The first edition of the Public Service Event List for the Atlanta Metro area can be found at http://www.radio.org/~chdaley/chdaley.html Interested parties that do not have Web access can request a copy by email by replying to this message. Thanks, Chuck Daley KD4LXQ From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:25 1996 From: wallaby@adam.com.au (Mark Dickeson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: beginner's setup Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 23:40:02 GMT Message-ID: <31474ed7.0@eden.adam.com.au> Can someone tell me of any relevent web pages/sites, FAQ's, etc that I can access to determine a setup suitable for a newbie in Australia. I am especially interested in accessing the internet via ham radio - do you need a "full licence", or is there a modified one? From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:26 1996 From: jagon@lander.es (Jose Antonio Gonzalez) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: C56CW? CE0Y/DK9FN? Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 22:57:18 GMT Message-ID: <314803e6.6721556@lince.lander.es> References: <4ho8hm$cub@omnifest.uwm.edu> Reply-To: jagon@lander.es On 7 Mar 1996 21:11:50 -0600, fedpress@omnifest.uwm.edu (Rick Kissell) wrote: >Did anyone work a station signing C56CW on March 7 around 1722 GMT on 18.070? >Is the QSL route for him via DL7DF? Yes, me! your QSL info is ok, here are some more details about the expedition: The activity of the german group from Gambia [425DXN 247] is regu- larly started. Calls are C56DX (in SSB) and C56CW (in CW). QSL via DL7DF (ex-DL7UUO). > >Did anyone work a station signing (I think) CE0Y/DK9FN about the same time, >date, and freq? His QSL route? What a luck!, I did not work this, but here is the info: CE0Y/DK9FN will be active until 13 March from Easter Island. The operations are mainly in CW from 10 to 160 meters. QSL via DK9FN via bureau. The source for both info has been the 425 DX NEWS # 253 HPE CU ON CW BEST 73 ES DX DE EA2BSN From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:27 1996 From: barry@indireect.com (Barry Rose) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Call Letters? Date: Wed, 13 Mar 96 17:22:55 GMT Message-ID: <4i78d5$8kc@globe.indirect.com> References: <4i4mc3$l68@a3bsrv.nai.net> >> >>Is there any place on the internet where I can get a call letter database? >>(for free would be nice!) >> There is a link on my clubs home page to QRZ which is an excellent call book server. The URL is http://www.indirect.com/www/ara. You will see the link towards the bottom of the page under "Amateur Radio Information". 73 Barry Barry Rose 2302 W. Wagoner Rd. Phoenix AZ 85023 (602) 993-1541 FAX (602) 789-7550 Labels - bags - boxes - plexiglass displays - business forms & cards http://www.indirect.com/www/barry/ From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:28 1996 From: irwin@nai.net (Wayne Irwin) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Call Letters? Date: 12 Mar 1996 20:21:23 GMT Message-ID: <4i4mc3$l68@a3bsrv.nai.net> References: X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.92.6+ In article , afm@nrgsoft.com (Afm Info) says: > >Is there any place on the internet where I can get a call letter database? >(for free would be nice!) > >Regards, >Andy >knasinskia@jdpub.com There is an excellent database maintained by the University of Arkansas which lists amateur call signs the data base is updated daily from FCC files. The URL is as follows: http://www.ualr.edu Follow the links to the amateur radio page and then to the call sign look-up screen. Your amateur call book is almost obsolete!!! Wayne, WA1RRZ From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:29 1996 From: irwin@nai.net (Wayne Irwin) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Can an Extra choose callsign..?? Date: 11 Mar 1996 19:19:48 GMT Message-ID: <4i1uck$loi@a3bsrv.nai.net> References: <4i0cq3$t4o@news2.cts.com> The Vanity Call Program has been under develpoment for well over a year. With luck, the FCC will implement it sometime this year. They are waiting on the disposition of a couple petitions for reconsideration of specific points in the program. If you need details, call the ARRL/VEC office Monday through Friday, 8:00 AM to 5:00 PM, Eastern time. Telephone: (860) 594-0300 73, Wayne Irwin, WA1RRZ Assistant to the ARRL/VEC Manager From: irwin@nai.net (Wayne Irwin) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Can an Extra choose callsign..?? References: <4i0cq3$t4o@news2.cts.com> X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.92.6+ In article <4i0cq3$t4o@news2.cts.com>, Dave Perkins says: > > Just out of curiosity, I remember fetting a letter from the FCC sayin >that in 1994, they might have enough money to let Extra Class opertors to >choose a 4 letter call that was no longer in use.. > > Is this true..?? Are they doing this now or will they never do it..?? > > > > Thanx, Dave > From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:30 1996 From: Dave Perkins Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Can an Extra choose callsign..?? Date: 11 Mar 1996 05:13:39 GMT Message-ID: <4i0cq3$t4o@news2.cts.com> Just out of curiosity, I remember fetting a letter from the FCC sayin that in 1994, they might have enough money to let Extra Class opertors to choose a 4 letter call that was no longer in use.. Is this true..?? Are they doing this now or will they never do it..?? Thanx, Dave From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:31 1996 From: landisj@nad.com (Joe Landis - Systems & Network Mgr) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Code = Outdated = YE OLDE FAHRTZ Message-ID: <1996Mar11.095138.467@nad.com> Date: 11 Mar 96 09:51:37 EST References: <4h7f57$1fso@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <1996Mar3.104411.115251@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> <4i0den$9r0@arl-news-svc-2.compuserve.com> Distribution: world In article <4i0den$9r0@arl-news-svc-2.compuserve.com>, 73700.12@compuserve.com (Jim Nuytens) writes: > In message <1996Mar7.153034.20229@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> - gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (G ary > Coffman) writes: > > > :> > :>>Don't get me wrong...I have an extra-class license, have been a ham since > :>>1968, and really enjoy the snap-crackle-pop of old tubes, and still > :>>search for DX. How can we convince people that we still provide a > :>>service in return for the spectrum granted us? > :> > :>Well, one way would be to update from those old tubes and try to > :>exchange some real information content instead of chasing postal > :>cards. 1/2 :-) > :> > > You know, I could never understand this obsession with contesting or chasing > DX as in the above example you commented on, Gary. > > Maybe I'm crazy (maybe?...hell..definately!), but I can't see what either > contesting or DX chasing had to do with making Amateur Radio better. If just > 1/2 of the time these people spent on such nonsense was channeled into makin g > genuine advancements in the radio art, Ham Radio would be at the fore-front > in technology like it used to be. Somewhere along the way we've lost our > "edge" and I don't see it returning any time soon. > > We could really use some good high-speed packet networks instead of this > stupid, mindless shouting for 10 second contacts. 10 seconds? Did I REALLY > say that? I meant 5 seconds.....yeah, that's really Ham radio.....NOT!! > Jim Nuytens N3JJA/Delaware Email: So why don't YOU build a hi speed packet network, Jim? To each their own. I'm getting into homebrewing microwave gear. I like to dabble at contesting. I do networking for a living, and I'd love to try a multi-megabit packet backbone in our area, but I cant find anyone interested (or committed). Plenty of room in amateur radio for all of us, Jim. 73, Joe - AA3GN -- Joe Landis - Systems and Network Manager - North American Drager - Telford, PA landisj@nad.com ..speaking only for myself, of course.. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:33 1996 From: jackl@pinetree.microserve.com (WB3U) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Code = Outdated = YE OLDE FAHRTZ Date: Thu, 14 Mar 96 07:59:21 GMT Message-ID: <4i8jst$s7e@crash.microserve.net> References: <4h7f57$1fso@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <1996Mar3.104411.115251@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> <4i0den$9r0@arl-news-svc-2.compuserve.com> 73700.12@compuserve.com (Jim Nuytens) wrote: >If just 1/2 of the time these people spent on such nonsense was >channeled into making genuine advancements in the radio art, Ham >Radio would be at the fore-front in technology like it used to be. It takes more than time to advance a field like this. Sophisticated equipment, tons of research, and large financial investments are also required. Radio and RF is no longer an infant technology. It is unlikely that hobbyists will ever be on the forefront again. > Somewhere along the way we've lost our "edge" and I don't see it >returning any time soon. It won't. The level of sophistication of the industry pretty well precludes the possibility of major advancements taking place in someone's garage. As for the other post about justifying the frequencies we use, the simple fact is, we can't. CW and the use of CW for emergency communications and shipboard duty was the last tangible benefit the Amateur Radio Service had to offer. Now it's just a matter of politics, and time. I predict that shortly after no-code Amateurs gain the privelages, industry will take the frequencies. 73, Jack WB3U From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:34 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: dstock@hpqmdla.sqf.hp.com (David Stockton) Subject: Re: Code = Outdated = YE OLDE FAHRTZ Message-ID: Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 17:13:03 GMT References: <1996Mar11.172049.11324@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Gary Coffman (gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us) wrote: : Let's not be too hard on our postal card collecting brethren. etc. Well Said! I sometimes make denigrating remarks about them, and must take responsibility for coining the phrase "Postal Prowess" but we must live and let live. I still think that contest organisers ought to take care, though, that they do not lock out entire bands for entire weekends from non-contest traffic on HF. Some UHF and upwards bands never see a signal except during contests, though. I suppose a contester/dxer must find my version of amateur radio as mystifying as I find his. What point DO I see in building radios yet almost never having time to use them as I launch myself into the next one ? Cheers David From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:35 1996 From: bry2@usa.pipeline.com(Bry AF4K) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Code = Outdated = YE OLDE FAHRTZ Date: 16 Mar 1996 13:07:44 GMT Message-ID: <4ieef0$fao@news1.h1.usa.pipeline.com> References: <4i0den$9r0@arl-news-svc-2.compuserve.com> On Mar 11, 1996 05:24:39 in article , '73700.12@compuserve.com (Jim Nuytens)' wrote: I can't see what either >contesting or DX chasing had to do with making Amateur Radio better. If just >1/2 of the time these people spent on such nonsense was channeled into making >genuine advancements in the radio art, Ham Radio would be at the fore-front >in technology like it used to be. Somewhere along the way we've lost our >"edge" and I don't see it returning any time soon. >Jim Nuytens N3JJA/Delaware Email: Jim hi from yiour neighbor down in MD(!) I think we have not lost our EDGE. The problem is that we have added zillions of appliance operators. Like it or not they are the majority, and even those of us who DO have a technical background, mostly we don't have time to experiment and design new things because we are struggling to survive in an INCREASINGLY hostile economic environment designed to destroy families and starve the middle class. -- Bry in Gaithersburg, MD near DC Bry2@usa.pipeline.com.us Keep in touch! From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:36 1996 From: pcarter@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Philip Carter) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Commercial License Exams, Columbus OH Date: 12 Mar 1996 09:20:07 -0500 Message-ID: <4i416n$gfo@acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us> A FCC Commercial Radio Operator license exam session has been scheduled for March 23, 1996 in Reynoldsburg, Ohio. For more information or to register for the session, call 614-240-0059. -- pcarter@freenet.columbus.oh.us Philip L. Carter, WD8QWR wd8qwr@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.na From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:37 1996 From: randolph@est.enet.dec.com (Tom Randolph) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Convincing Arguments for CW Tests in 1996 Date: 11 MAR 96 14:54:03 Message-ID: <4i211r$dbf@mrnews.mro.dec.com> References: <4gsf2u$rth@crc-news.doc.ca> <1996feb27.154554.25536@schbbs.mot.com> <4h1sbe$1vu6@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> <4h5bbn$3d4@mgate.arrl.org> <4h7hds$bii@crc-news.doc.ca> <4h8p89$9hq@news.cis.okstate.edu> <4heutj$plj@crc-news.doc.ca> <4hf2kt$v65@uw >>It seems to me that the only reason morse code exists is to keep >>HF an elite club for amateurs who feel they are too good for those of >>us who have more important things to learn besides morse code.. That is >>why the upper class hams still argue for it. If you say so. In the meantime, while you guys are off learning your more important things, we'll be on HF using our homebrew radios, building new equipment, and having fun! I'm up to 8 states and 2 countries, and it's been a blast so far! 100% homebrew 40m station, superhet receiver, 18W transmitter. I say Morse is a useful tool, in that it gives one a simple modualtion method to take advantage of while learning about radios in their simplest form: CW receivers and transmitters. The NEED to know Morse for emergency comms is all but gone, but the utility of the mode continues. ============================================================================== Tom Randolph N1OOQ NE-QRP 419 QRP-L 87 ARRL randolph@est.enet.dec.com ============================================================================== From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:38 1996 From: Chuck Penson Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: CQ magazine electronic index? Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 16:06:02 -0600 Message-ID: <3145F54A.3DF5@sci.mus.mn.us> References: <31456bbf.12701021@lince.lander.es> Jose Antonio Gonzalez wrote: > I have read in somewhere that there is an electronic index for CQ, any > ideat about this?. I'd like to find out about that too! Thanks. -- Chuck Penson Education Division Science Museum of Minnesota penson@sci.mus.mn.us 612.221.4510 voice 612.224.5092 fax http://comped.sci.mus.mn.us Standard Disclaimer: The opinions expressed are etc. etc. ... "Nothing is too wonderful to be true" -- Michael Faraday From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:38 1996 From: Mziggi Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: CW decoder? Date: 16 Mar 1996 02:20:09 GMT Message-ID: <4id8gr$st8@news.iconn.net> References: <4hvuec$hrc@news.esslink.com> A good CW decoder is CWave ver 1.0 by Pika Software. It connects through a windows sound card. Get it from ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/ham/morse . The program is cwave.zip From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:39 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Definition: Jerk Message-ID: <1996Mar9.234110.115699@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> From: Bill Date: 9 Mar 96 23:41:10 CST References: <4hpr57$eer@chnews.ch.intel.com> Keep the code...get rid of the code...it just doesn't matter! Just make the theory test hard as hell! 73s Bill (my real name) AA4FM/0 (my real call..in this life, anyway) Eudora, Kansas, USA (well, you know!) From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:40 1996 From: Hank Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc, Subject: Does anybody still use NRD59 rig control program? Date: 8 Mar 1996 15:29:19 GMT Message-ID: <4hpjof$b5a@news.ios.com> Does anybody still use the NRD59 rig controle program for the Japan Radio Co N RD-525/535? And if so, do you want to exchange ASCII databases? I'm just getting started with th is program and would appriciate any info/help received. Thanks & 73 Hank kb2rkx@weca.org From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:41 1996 From: rocky@inland.net (Charles R. Van Buskirk) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: drake or galaxy Date: Wed, 13 Mar 96 10:36:30 GMT Message-ID: <4i68fe$j3s_002@ts1p4.inland.net> need a power supply for one or both of these units if you have one or both or know where I could aquire one please let me know..For my father. If you need a call sign let me know and I will supply one. Models tc-3 galaxy 500 thank rocky From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:42 1996 From: shell@callamer.com (William Shell) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: DX Usenet?? Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 05:00:16 GMT Message-ID: <31450488.25848760@news.callamer.com> References: <31387FA1.1978@texoma.com> Reply-To: shell@callamer.com wday@dfw.net (Wayne Day) wrote: >In article <31387FA1.1978@texoma.com>, Gary Stone wrot e: > >> Several months back I remember someone going through the process of >> trying to get a usenet for DX only. Does anyone know what became of >> this? >> >It seems there never was a formal proposal for a DX newsgroup put up to >the community. > >73 Wayne KF5ZC > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - > Wayne Day KF5ZC Fort Worth,Texas,USA kf5zc@amsat.org | > CompuServe: 76703,376 76703.376@CompuServe.Com | ,__o > wday@dfw.net |--\_<, > Member: Bicycle Mobile Hams of America (*)/'(*) > For info on BMHA or the BIKEHAM mailing list: Finger KF5ZC@dfw.net > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Try alt.ham-radio.dxing There doesn't seem to be much activity though. - - Bill, WA6IET shell@callamer.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:43 1996 From: jackl@pinetree.microserve.com (WB3U) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: FCC-Out of Control??? Please Read Date: Tue, 12 Mar 96 19:59:49 GMT Message-ID: <4i4lbe$f2d@crash.microserve.net> References: <4i34kk$m9@news.internetmci.com> drbs.rick.eutsler@internetmci.com (Rick Eutsler) wrote: >Prepared to use force if necessary, federal police arrived at 8 AM on >March 7, 1996, to remove a small radio transmitter from the home of >A.L. Kobres, a long-time radio enthusiast. There is no question that the F.C.C.'s methods of allotment are wrong. Government does not own the magnetic spectrum any more than it owns all land, all personal property, or the heat from the sun. It is also evident that ideas transmitted over the air, regardless of format, fall under the Constitutionally-protected right to free speech. Nevertheless, and regardless of the sins of the F.C.C., the act of transmission on a frequency one does not own is trespass. Kobres was indeed exercising his right to free speech, but the F.C.C. did not infringe on that. They merely removed a trespasser from property that didn't belong to him. Kobres' actions are similar to someone who breaks into their neighbor's house, then claims they have a right to be there because they're talking. Ridiculous. 73, Jack WB3U From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:44 1996 From: Andrew C Robertson Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: FCC-Out of Control??? Please Read Date: 13 Mar 1996 19:24:21 GMT Message-ID: <4i77d5$jte@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> References: <4i34kk$m9@news.internetmci.com> <4i4lbe$f2d@crash.microserve.net> jackl@pinetree.microserve.com (WB3U) wrote: > > There is no question that the F.C.C.'s methods of allotment are wrong. > Government does not own the magnetic spectrum any more than it owns > all land, all personal property, or the heat from the sun. > > Nevertheless, and regardless of the sins of the F.C.C., the act of > transmission on a frequency one does not own is trespass. Kobres was > indeed exercising his right to free speech, but the F.C.C. did not > infringe on that. They merely removed a trespasser from property that > didn't belong to him. Is this frequency in use? :) > Kobres' actions are similar to someone who breaks into their > neighbor's house, then claims they have a right to be there because > they're talking. If the airwaves are public, it seems more like someone who walks into a public park and begins speaking for anyone who will listen, and is then told not to speak because they're distracting attention from someone elsewhere in the park who paid the gov't a hefty fee for the "right" to speak in that public place. Of course, there's only so much space in the park, but if there's unused space available the "trespassing" analogy begins to fall apart. 73 de drewbob aa1hx From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:45 1996 From: Jose Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Freq. Modification Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 01:29:42 -0800 Message-ID: <31454406.1C7E@guate.net> Greetings. Does anybody know how to modify the Kenwood TM-733A, to expand the frequency range. Send a diagram if possible. I have a bunch of tech modifications maybe you're interested in some of them. Thanks, From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:46 1996 From: eyfilms@pacificnet.net (John Batura) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment Subject: FS: ICOM 220MHz Handheld Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 03:37:07 GMT Message-ID: <4i5g1m$htc@news2.cais.com> Reply-To: eyfilms@pacificnet.net For Sale: ICOM 220 MHz Handheld w/DTMF and Battery Excellent for Autopatch New condition. Best Reasonable Offer plus Shipping. Thanks, -John From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:47 1996 From: rocky@inland.net (Charles R. Van Buskirk) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: galaxy500 power Date: Mon, 11 Mar 96 07:02:50 GMT Message-ID: <4i0j6q$csk_002@ts2p2.inland.net> I need a power supply for a galaxy 500 or a drake tr-3. well not me but my father.. please let me know if you have one for sale or know where I can get one rocky@inland.net From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:48 1996 From: moore@isd.upmc.edu (James Moore) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap Subject: GrandFather left 2 Garages full of Stuff Date: 12 Mar 1996 16:47:07 GMT Message-ID: <4i49qb$jpt@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> GrandFather passed and left 2 garages full of stuff. GrandMother wants rid of it. If interested call 1 800 996-2971 Thank You From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:48 1996 From: kd1hz@anomaly.ideamation.com (Michael P. Deignan) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: GrandFather left 2 Garages full of Stuff Date: 14 Mar 1996 17:09:14 -0500 Message-ID: <4ia5ea$bg7@anomaly.ideamation.com> References: <4i49qb$jpt@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> <4i6l9j$h3s@falcon.eag.unisysgsg.com> <4i719s$gqq@usenetz1.news.prodigy.com> <4i9m3s$ggu@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> In article <4i9m3s$ggu@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, Christopher K Greenhalgh wrote: >The Grandfather DIED! Passed away...passed on...heart stopped...brain >activity ceased(you should have known that one). I prefer: "assumed room temperature". MD -- -- -- Who needs looks when you've got taste? -- -- If you don't like my opinions, that's just too damn bad. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:49 1996 From: VUBS79A@prodigy.com (Drew Durigan) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: GrandFather left 2 Garages full of Stuff Date: 13 Mar 1996 17:40:12 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <4i719s$gqq@usenetz1.news.prodigy.com> References: <4i49qb$jpt@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> <4i6l9j$h3s@falcon.eag.unisysgsg.com> >James Moore (moore@isd.upmc.edu) wrote: > GrandFather passed and left 2 garages full of stuff. Passed what? Passed gas? Stones?? -Drew in Sunny Central Florida- From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:50 1996 From: Bill Funk Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap Subject: Re: GrandFather left 2 Garages full of Stuff Date: 16 Mar 1996 02:38:03 GMT Message-ID: <4id9ib$3sq@pegasus.starlink.com> References: <4i49qb$jpt@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> <4i6l9j$h3s@falcon.eag.unisysgsg.com> cjrobins@falcon.eag.unisysgsg.com (Clair Robinson) wrote: >James Moore (moore@isd.upmc.edu) wrote: > >: GrandFather passed and left 2 garages full of stuff. > >: GrandMother wants rid of it. > >: If interested call 1 800 996-2971 > >: Thank You > > >Could you at least tell us what state its in? ===================== What do you wanna bet this is an ongoing commercial deal? No descriptions, an 800 number... -- Bill Funk - skypilot@starlink.com ASCIi User Group - http://www.starlink.com:80/~ascii User groups: More info than you can shake a CD at! Try one near you! From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:51 1996 From: lenwink@indirect.com (Len Winkler) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave Subject: HAARP on Ham Radio & More Show Date: Mon, 11 Mar 96 15:05:56 GMT Message-ID: <4i1fhs$tp@globe.indirect.com> Steve Elswork of Exotic Research will be the special guest this Sunday, 3/17/96, on the Internationally heard, Ham Radio & More Show. Steve will discuss HARRP, it's publically stated intentions and Steve's take on the project. Check out the HAARP home page for more info. The show airs at 6:00pm ET, (2300utc), in many cities throughout the country and via shortwave on WWCR, 5.065mhz. 73, Len, KB7LPW Len Winkler, KB7LPW lenwink@indirect.com P.O. Box 9219 kb7lpw@kc7y.az.usa.na Phoenix, Az. 85068-9219 Ham Radio & More Show info at: http://www.barc.org/barc/ham-more.html RealAudio site: www.tapr.org/hrm/hrm.html The show airs LIVE at 6:00pm ET on many stations throughout the country. The show also airs on WWCR shortwave, tape delayed at 1000utc on 7.435, on Mon days, and Saturdays at 1700utc on 12.160. LIVE ON WWCR, 5.065 mhz.....also check 7.435mhz, 2300utc Support "WOG". Written only General!!! From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:53 1996 From: Ed Hare Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave Subject: Re: HAARP on Ham Radio & More Show Date: 12 Mar 1996 20:09:32 GMT Message-ID: <4i4lls$60e@mgate.arrl.org> References: <4i1fhs$tp@globe.indirect.com> To: ehare@mgate.arrl.org lenwink@indirect.com (Len Winkler) wrote: >Steve Elswork of Exotic Research will be the special guest this Sunday, >3/17/96, on the Internationally heard, Ham Radio & More Show. Steve will >discuss HARRP, it's publically stated intentions and Steve's take on the >project. Check out the HAARP home page for more info. >The show airs at 6:00pm ET, (2300utc), in many cities throughout the country >and via shortwave on WWCR, 5.065mhz. >73, >Len, KB7LPW > >Len Winkler, KB7LPW lenwink@indirect.com >P.O. Box 9219 kb7lpw@kc7y.az.usa.na >Phoenix, Az. 85068-9219 >Ham Radio & More Show info at: >http://www.barc.org/barc/ham-more.html >RealAudio site: www.tapr.org/hrm/hrm.html > >The show airs LIVE at 6:00pm ET on many stations throughout the country. > >The show also airs on WWCR shortwave, tape delayed at 1000utc on 7.435, on Mo ndays, and Saturdays at 1700utc on 12.160. >LIVE ON WWCR, 5.065 mhz.....also check 7.435mhz, 2300utc > >Support "WOG". Written only General!!! > > > > From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:53 1996 From: Zack Lau Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: HAARP on Ham Radio & More Show Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 09:01:45 -0500 Message-ID: <314826C9.779C@arrl.org> References: <4i1fhs$tp@globe.indirect.com> <4i4lls$60e@mgate.arrl.org> armond@delphi.com wrote: > > Ed Hare writes: > > >>Support "WOG". Written only General!!! > > Well, the colleges are giving courses that everyone gets an "A" no matter > what. There are track races in which all entered get a blue ribbon.Mightas > well let ham radio sink into the ooze too. Hey, let's just give everyone > a free radio that gets a license. And a house to put it in. And let's all > mov e to Bulgaria. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:54 1996 From: "William M. Bickley" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: HAMFEST! New Jersey (Trenton) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 18:22:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3148AA2D.1950@ix.netcom.com> HAMFEST! - New Jersey (Trenton) - Delaware Valley Radio Association. Sunday, March 24th - rain or shine. Vendor setup 6:30am; public 7:30am to 2:00pm. Trenton State College Student Recreation Center - Route 31 approx. 1 mile south of I-95/Route 31 exit. Admission $5.00; Tailgaters $10.00 (includes space and admission); Inside Vendors $20.00 (includes space and admission). Free parking; refreshments; handicapped accessible. Talk-in 146.67 and 442.650. For info, call DVRA hotline at (609) 882-2240. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:55 1996 From: ke6tgn@ix.netcom.com(Wanda M Desmond) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.swap Subject: HELP!! NEED service manual for TAC TEC transceiver Date: 13 Mar 1996 06:30:25 GMT Message-ID: <4i5q21$6tr@cloner2.ix.netcom.com> References: <4i49qb$jpt@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> <4i5btf$16a@vtc.tacom.army.mil> I need a service manual for a TacTec (RCA) #MJAW2-EC21G. Thanks! John KE6TGN From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:56 1996 From: Don C Hamiel Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.swap Subject: Re: HELP!! NEED service manual for TAC TEC transceiver Date: 14 Mar 1996 11:09:38 GMT Message-ID: <4i8upi$gvc@news.sdd.hp.com> References: <4i49qb$jpt@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> <4i5btf$16a@vtc.tacom.army.mil> <4i5q21$6tr@cloner2.ix.netcom.com> To: ke6tgn@ix.netcom.com What model tac-tec is it? There is a company called RAB parts. I think they are in PA. If not, look up Kyodo West. They made some of the Tac-Tec stuff. They made the 310sx line. I have some info on the 310 line and some new scanning control heads too. They are good little radios (310sx). Good Luck. 73 de Don N6NLX. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:57 1996 From: Jim Devenport Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.swap Subject: Re: Hr2600 MODS Date: Fri, 08 Mar 1996 11:29:12 -0700 Message-ID: <31407C78.7DED@lanl.gov> References: <4hnhte$30@ohnasn01.sinet.slb.com> To: Bob Duer The only "mod" I'm aware of for the HR2600 is a rather expensive, though effective one: "CHIPSWITCH" 4773 Sonoma Highway Suite 132 Santa Rosa CA 95409-4269 (707) 539-0512 No connection of course between me and them, never even purchased their products, but have friends who have. This kit involves replacement of the controller IC inside the 2600 which gives it the "additional frequencies". -- |-------------------------------------------------------| |Jim Devenport WB5AOX | |All Standard Disclaimers Disclaimed | |My views rarely (if ever) reflect those of my employers| |HTTP://nis-www.lanl.gov/~jdport/ | |-------------------------------------------------------| From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:58 1996 From: nadzam@garlic.com (Bill Nadzam) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.swap Subject: Re: Hr2600 MODS Date: Thu, 14 Mar 96 13:08:36 GMT Message-ID: <4i95ok$gko_001@nadzam.garlic.com> References: <4hnhte$30@ohnasn01.sinet.slb.com> <3145F5B5.5CBC@informix.com> In article <3145F5B5.5CBC@informix.com>, Randall Rhea wrote: >No mods for this rig. There was a company called Chipswitch a few >years ago that sold a replacement microprocessor. They advertised >in the ham mags under the heading "give your 2510 and 2600 the same >features as the big rigs." I do not know if they >are still in business. They are indeed still in bussiness. There product is a good one too. That same chip works in the HR-2510, HR-2600 and the CB radio known as the Lincoln. Which is the same radio anyway. Cost is about $75 including shipping and the Socket for the microprocessor. Adds 10 memories per band, has repeater offsets for the 2510, but doesn't add PL. The 2600 has PL anyway. Also adds many features to the Mic up Down. This becomes programmable, as does many other functions. ------------------------------------------------ Name: Bill.Nadzam "K8WN" E-mail: "Bill Nadzam" ------------------------------------------------ From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:22:59 1996 From: Randall Rhea Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.swap Subject: Re: Hr2600 MODS Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 16:07:49 -0600 Message-ID: <3145F5B5.5CBC@informix.com> References: <4hnhte$30@ohnasn01.sinet.slb.com> To: Bob Duer Bob Duer wrote: > > Need to know if there are freq. mods for the HR2600 just as there is for > the HR2510. If there is and they are available a copy or location to get th em > would be appreciated. > No mods for this rig. There was a company called Chipswitch a few years ago that sold a replacement microprocessor. They advertised in the ham mags under the heading "give your 2510 and 2600 the same features as the big rigs." I do not know if they are still in business. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Randall Rhea Systems Engineer Informix Software randall@informix.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:00 1996 From: Alan Doherty Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: KENWOOD RCP Controller Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 13:14:40 +0000 Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <960306071922_26900346@hp1.online.apple.com> Hi All, Thank's for the help in obtaining a copy of the Kenwwod RCP TS870 control program. My next query is, how do you add/change memory profile sets ? 73's +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ + Happiness IS Amateur Radio + + Alan Doherty, GI0OTC + + E-Mail: alan@gi0otc.demon.co.uk + + ****** + +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:01 1996 From: c-three@telepost.no (Per-Tore Aasestrand) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Kenwood TS-50S for commercial use? Date: Wed, 13 Mar 96 10:27:37 GMT Message-ID: <4i67uq$l62@nms.telepost.no> Does anyone know how I can "open" my TS-50S so it will transmit on any frequency (not just amateur bands)? Will this also still allow it to be used in connection with the AT-50 automatic antenna tuner? Please reply via e-mail: c-three@telepost.no Thanks & regards, Per-Tore LA7NO From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:02 1996 From: supermag@dialup.francenet.fr (Alain Baudier) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Looking for data on 5 tone codes on ICOM Date: 15 Mar 1996 20:02:27 GMT Message-ID: <4icicj$2ae@chleuasme.francenet.fr> I'm looking for all data available on 5 tones code used by ICOM on H16T and V200T (ie encoding, decoding, repeater activation and all others special codes ...) Please answer by mail to supermag@dialup.francenet.fr , (and don't expect a quick answer) Thanks. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:05 1996 From: mkrotz@qrz.com (Mark Krotz) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Low cost CW on 2M? Date: Mon, 11 Mar 96 19:18:22 GMT Message-ID: <4i26fb$7n0@maple.enet.net> References: <9603071108281397@basselope.org> In article <9603071108281397@basselope.org>, ken.meinken@basselope.org (Ken Meinken) wrote: >T >I just received my tech license and know there is alot of room for CW >T >the 2M band but the only new equipment that caries a reasonable price >T > is for FM. I would like to know of any reasonably priced CW rigs (ne >T >or used) for this band or 6M. I would also like to find kits, plans > >Tom, > >Unless you are in a highly populated area, I think you are going to need a >very sophisticated station to find anyone to work on 2m cw. By >sophisticated station, I mean a beam antenna on a high tower and a very >sensitive receiver. Even then, you will probably find very few stations >to work unless you try satellite or moonbounce. > >Realize that to work any distance on 2m cw, both stations have to have >their beams pointed at each other and be on the same frequency at the same >time. I think most 2m cw work is oriented toward meteor scatter and >occassional tropo openings. > Hmmm... I remember when I was a tech, I was limited as to what I could do with HF antennas and such. I put up a small 2meter beam and got on 2 SSB and CW. I worked lots of CW (this was abt 15-20 years ago in KS). In fact, most of my CW to get my speed up to upgrade was on VHF. True, a lot of my contacts were scheds with friends, but by no means, all of them. Look at swapmeets, its that time of year again. Look for an Icom 211, or a Kenwood TS700 or similar. Find a cheap beam, a few elements (make sure you put it up horizontally polarized). There are more and more all-mode VHF rigs available, with the IC 706 and all. Tropo openings can be a blast, but I'd be surprised if there wasn't some local activity. Unless you live in the sticks where the men are men and the sheep are nervous. If your budget places the rigs I mentioned out of reach (they're older solid state) then look for an old Gonset or Heath lunchbox or something. Mark KD0DM From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:06 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: Low cost CW on 2M? Message-ID: <1996Mar12.160419.15999@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: <9603071108281397@basselope.org> <4i26fb$7n0@maple.enet.net> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 16:04:19 GMT In article <4i26fb$7n0@maple.enet.net> mkrotz@qrz.com (Mark Krotz) writes: > >Hmmm... I remember when I was a tech, I was limited as to what I could do >with HF antennas and such. I put up a small 2meter beam and got on 2 SSB >and CW. I worked lots of CW (this was abt 15-20 years ago in KS). In fact, >most of my CW to get my speed up to upgrade was on VHF. True, a lot of >my contacts were scheds with friends, but by no means, all of them. Look >at swapmeets, its that time of year again. Look for an Icom 211, or a Kenwoo d >TS700 or similar. Find a cheap beam, a few elements (make sure you put it >up horizontally polarized). There are more and more all-mode VHF rigs >available, with the IC 706 and all. Tropo openings can be a blast, but I'd >be surprised if there wasn't some local activity. Unless you live in the >sticks where the men are men and the sheep are nervous. If your budget >places the rigs I mentioned out of reach (they're older solid state) then >look for an old Gonset or Heath lunchbox or something. Those old multimodes don't have very good NF, and they don't have narrow filters. So their performance on CW, or other narrow digital modes, isn't very good. A mast mount preamp can help the NF problem, and at least the IC211 had a front end replacement board available from Mutek that did wonders for it. Still, they are better suited to SSB than CW due to the wide IF filters. You *could* build an outboard 3rd IF for these radios, the IC211 has a jack on the back giving you the 10.7 MHz IF. I did that for my first Oscar station, which was half of the first amateur satellite relayed RTTY contact. An audio DSP filter could also be helpful. This may be a case where a used transverter in front of a used HF rig may give more bang for the buck. You also have the option to build or convert equipment. Any old FM transmitter strip can be converted to a CW transmitter by disabling the modulator and installing a keying circuit. Dirt cheap commercial surplus Motorola or GE equipment can offer 100 watt level transmitters for this use for under $50. A good receiver is the harder problem. Unless you build a converter to use in front of a HF receiver (cheap if you already have the receiver), your choices are pretty limited. One option is to use the ubiquitous Rick Campbell R2 receiver kit with a homebrew VXO. Note that most of these approaches will also work well with more modern digital modulations, and generally with superior results. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:08 1996 From: au156@yfn.ysu.edu (Hank Riley) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: March 16 Colorado ATV/Repeater/Packet Balloon Launch Date: 12 Mar 1996 02:25:26 GMT Message-ID: <4i2nan$i8g@news.ysu.edu> EOSS-25: CENTRAL COLORADO REPEATER/ATV BALLOON LAUNCH Region: Central Colorado Date/Time: March 16 / 11:00 AM MST, 18:00 UTC Location: RC (Radio Controlled) model airplane airport located east of Falcon, CO on US 24 (about 9 miles east of Colorado Springs on US 24) Expected track: between 45 and 145 degrees azimuth Flight Experiment: US Air Force Academy satellite experiment and RMRL crossband repeater Project Integrators: USAFA and EOSS ATV: a. [EOSS] 426.25 MHz AM (1 watt output) NTSC color b. [AFA] 439.25 MHz AM (1 watt output) NTSC color VHF/UHF Repeater: 446.000 MHz FM Input 147.555 MHz FM Output Beacons: 144.34 MHz Morse ID audio on FM (periodic; frequency shared with packet telemetry) Telemetry: a. [EOSS] 144.340 MHz FM (1 Watt output) AX.25, 1200 baud mostly plain english text; includes APRS position data string. b. [AFA] 147.450 and 147.500 Mhz FM, AX.25, 1200 baud; special telemetry format. HF Net: 7.235 Mhz SSB For additional launch data and general Edge of Space Sciences (EOSS) information: http://www.usa.net/~rickvg/eoss.htm maintained by Rick von Glahn rickvg@usa.net ----------------------------------------------------------- Hank Riley, N1LTV h1riley@umassd.edu au156@yfn.ysu.edu From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:08 1996 From: w2ehd@aol.com (W2EHD) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: March 30 Hamfest - Upper Saddle River NJ- CANCELLED Date: 14 Mar 1996 22:04:53 -0500 Message-ID: <4iamol$tg@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: w2ehd@aol.com (W2EHD) The Chestnut Ridge Radio Club regrets to announce cancellation of the (or what would have been) 18th annual Flea Market....which had been scheduled for March 30, 1996. Cause? We could not find sufficient sellers! Jack W2EHD Andy K2ETN From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:09 1996 From: Wayne Prather Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: MCX-100 BURN EPROMS Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 10:25:26 -0800 Message-ID: <31486496.1CD0@fishnet.net> About three months ago, I responded to a posting from another amateur operator. He had located information on burning eproms to use the MCX-100 in the ham bands. I recieved this info and made a backup copy with my tape drive. Im running windows 95 and did not realize my backup would be no good, needless to say windows95 crashed big-time. HOWEVER SENT ME THE FILE WITH THE PROGRAMING INFORMATION, PLEASE SEND IT TO ME AGAIN, I WILL NOT @#$%^& THIS TIME. WAYNE PRATHER KO6IO From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:10 1996 From: William W Janssen Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: MCX-100 BURN EPROMS Date: 15 Mar 1996 07:46:46 GMT Message-ID: <4ib796$jf6@news.calweb.com> References: <31486496.1CD0@fishnet.net> Wayne Prather wrote: >About three months ago, I responded to a posting from another amateur >operator. He had located information on burning eproms to use the >MCX-100 in the ham bands. I recieved this info and made a backup copy >with my tape drive. Im running windows 95 and did not realize my backup >would be no good, needless to say windows95 crashed big-time. >HOWEVER SENT ME THE FILE WITH THE PROGRAMING INFORMATION, PLEASE SEND IT >TO ME AGAIN, I WILL NOT @#$%^& THIS TIME. > > WAYNE PRATHER KO6IO I also have a MCX-100 that I would like to play with. SO I would also like the info if and when it is found. Bill K7NOM From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:11 1996 From: aga@ssguest.west.sun.com (Tony Angerame - Sun SSE) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Midland GDO Help Date: 12 Mar 1996 19:30:30 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <4i4jcm$1sd@newsworthy.West.Sun.COM> Reply-To: aga@ssguest.west.sun.com Hello folks, I recently acquired a Midland tr-grid dip meter at a flea market. It was a great buy at 5.00 dollars but it has no coils. Shouldn't be hard to wind som e coils huh...not. The coil socket seems to use all 7 pins. Does anyone have any docs on this thing? What I need is info that will help me wind some coils to fire this thin g up. I suspect that certain coils for different bands use different connections fro m the socket to the pc board that is the oscillator. TIA Tony WA6LZH From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:12 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: jbergman@bcl.net (Jason Q. Bergmann) Subject: MODS: FT-10R Message-ID: Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 02:22:42 GMT Looking for mods to the FT-10R please. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:13 1996 From: pjessop@tdc.dircon.co.uk (Paul Jessop) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Morse Code in Music Date: 15 Mar 1996 13:21:51 -0000 Message-ID: References: <4i2bbq$ng3@news-e2a.gnn.com> Re: Inspector Morse Excellent detective series made here in the UK and set in Oxford. The theme music does spell out the name of the detective and I recall a radio interview with the composer (whose name is Barrington Phelong or something which sounds the same as that) where he described hiding things in the music, including names of the culprits in morse. Morse's name does appear, but not his first name. He is just "Morse". The Radio Society of Great Britain were using the theme music as its "music on hold" on its telephone system. Paul, G8KGV From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:14 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc From: sorgatz@avatar.tti.com (Erik K.Sorgatz) Subject: Re: My idea for restructuring the licensing system..and keeping the code Message-ID: References: <4hgb3b$3tt@news1.goodnet.com> <4hncdm$es7@nadine.teleport.com> <4ho3lb$c8r@news1.goodnet.com> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 21:33:30 GMT In article <4ho3lb$c8r@news1.goodnet.com> rec@goodguy (Richard Eyre-Eagles) wr ites: >:>A rational idea! I have been a ham for 36 years, and would even be >:>willing to forego the CW test for a license, but am staunchly opposed >:>to relenquishing CW segments of the bands. Some of us old timers are >:>in a CW "rut", and enjoy it too much to give it up. But >:>realistically, as a V.E., I see a greater need for practical tests in >:>areas other than CW. > >I am only removing 25kHz from CW. I know that 25kHz can go a long way >but there is still another 125kHz for CW. It would be nice to have phone >QSOs Regions 1 and 3 on 40. > >Keep in mind this would be temporary until one of the upcoming WARCs >where an agreement would be made on what to do with 7MHz >(eg: 6900-7200 Worldwide Amateur Assignment, 7200-7500 Broadcasting). > I think they ought to assign 7.0-7.5 to AMATEURS on a WORLDWIDE BASIS! ...let the damn broadcasters move up to 7.5-8.0, there isnt a single reason to not do it! The broadcasters originally moved into the 7MHz region ILLEGALLY anyway! Screw them! sorgatz@avatar.tti.com (or:es@soldev.tti.com) KB6LUY (private email:eks@westwo rld.com) TTI 3100 Ocean Park Blvd. Santa Monica, CA 90405 "ANY COMMENTS OR STATEMENTS MADE ARE NOT NECESSARILY THOSE OF CITICORP, ITS SU BSIDIARIES OR AFFILIATES." (Copyright 1995, ARR-permission to store/archive hereby grante d) From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:15 1996 From: padawer@usit.net (Randy Padawer) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.swap Subject: NEEDED "Dr. QSO" by AEA (C64 cartridge) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 08:53:53 -0500 Message-ID: I'm looking to buy someone's no-longer-needed "Dr. QSO" cartridge for the Commodore 64 computer. It basically simulated QSOs for morse training. I have the other old AEA cartridge (Dr. DX) and would like the "Dr. QSO" version so I have both. If anyone can help out with this, an email to "padawer@usit.net" would be very much appreciated. Randy Padawer, WA4FJF padawer@usit.net -------------------------------------------------------------------- Randy Padawer, P.O. Box 1167, Knoxville, TN 37901-1167 U.S.of A Internet: padawer@usit.net AOL: Ad Randy Tel.: (423) 637-7263 Department of Psychology, University of Tennessee, Knoxville, Tenn. -------------------------------------------------------------------- From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:16 1996 From: clarke@aztec.asu.edu (JACK CLARKE) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: New Ham needs HT/Base 2M Advice Date: 11 Mar 1996 15:40:26 GMT Message-ID: <4i1hha$jjd@news.asu.edu> I wouldn't want to slight Gary, KE4ZV. That is a very complete analysis. Perhaps Gary is a little more critical than some of us. The only thing I have is Yaesu hand-held. I use it in my motorhome with a mag-mount antenna. I have a J-pole in the apartment which works just fine. I can hit repeaters 20 and 30 miles away -- actually one is about 80 miles away. I guess it depends on your pocket book. If you can afford it, do everything Gary says. I have a limited budget. In my opinion, I would sooner get the best hand-held I can and leave it at that. With the way things are advancing these days in technology, your radio is out-dated in a couple of years. So, then I just have to throw away ONE radio. 73, & welcome to the hobby, Jack VE3EED/W7 -- From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:18 1996 From: gray@news.humberc.on.ca (Kelly Gray) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: New Ham needs HT/Base 2M Advice Date: 11 Mar 1996 16:14:54 GMT Message-ID: <4i1jhu$frm@dns.humberc.on.ca> References: <314328d7.21968608@news.tiac.net> <1996Mar11.153501.10669@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Gary Coffman (gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us) wrote: [snip] : The problem is not so much transmit range but IMD. Most HTs will : overload and squall from the pager crud when hooked to a real : antenna, IE not the rubber dummy load that comes with them. So : you can have real problems receiving signals without a lot of : crud. Some HTs are better than others in this respect, but : they're all subject to the problem to one extent or another. [snip] : I will make an exception to my general condemnation of HTs. You could : crystal up a GE PE or a Motorola for a few amateur frequencies and : have a good rugged radio that will perform well. They forego the : Gameboy features in order to bring you solid communications performance. : (And even better, you can probably pick one up for under $50.) Another option to consider is a single band HT. Those HTs that are designed to receive everything from DC to light are the worst offenders when it comes to IMD. I have the Radio Shack HTX-202 HT, and IMD is not much of a problem with that radio. It is designed for to receive only the 2m band, and cannot be made to receive anything outside that band, which means that the front end filtering can be used to eliminate most of the out of band crud. This is not true of any dual band radio, which will probably have to handle both bands, and everything in between them. I have connected my HT to a number of types of base and mobile antennas, with very little in the way of IMD. At one location, our ARES group has a dual band mobile setup that requires a filter to be usable on 2m. My HT can be connected directly to the same antenna, and is usable without a filter. When selecting radios for use where IMD is a problem, avoid dual band radios, or any radio with a wideband receive capability, wether or not any modifications to enable that capability have been done. In general, mobile radios are better than HTs, since both size and power requirements tend to be reduced at the expense of IMD immunity. Incidently, for working distant repeaters, you are far better off not bothering with an amplifier, but instead spending the money on a better antenna system. Going from 5w to 50w is only a 10dB inprovement in your effective radiated power. Replacing the RG-58 feedline with low-loss cable and using a small beam instead of a vertical whip will easily improve your ERP by much more than that, and has the added advantage of improving your reception by the same amount. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:19 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: wwea@netcom.com (Walt Weaver) Subject: Re: New Ham needs HT/Base 2M Advice Message-ID: References: <4i1hha$jjd@news.asu.edu> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 02:52:23 GMT In article <4i1hha$jjd@news.asu.edu>, clarke@aztec.asu.edu (JACK CLARKE) wrote: > >I wouldn't want to slight Gary, KE4ZV. That is a very complete >analysis. Perhaps Gary is a little more critical than some of us. Whew. Glad to hear that. All I have is an HT. Gary started making me feel bad about that, until he said they are all OK except the Kenwood. That made me feel REALLY bad, since I own a Kenwood HT :(. >The only thing I have is Yaesu hand-held. I use it in my motorhome >with a mag-mount antenna. I have a J-pole in the apartment which >works just fine. I can hit repeaters 20 and 30 miles away -- >actually one is about 80 miles away. This has been my experience, little that it is. :) The day after I got my license, I put a 2M vertical in my attic and ran RG58 down to the basement where my "Communications Center" is. Hooked up my TH-28A and started talking to people. Nobody's complained about my signal, but then, I haven't talked to Gary :). >I guess it depends on your pocket book. If you can afford it, do >everything Gary says. I have a limited budget. In my opinion, >I would sooner get the best hand-held I can and leave it at that. I agree. I won't be able to afford another radio for some time yet, so my crummy old Kenwood HT is going to have to suffice. This is a fun hobby, but if I'm bothering people with my handi-scratchie on a repeater, I guess I'll have to turn my HT into a scanner :). All sarcasm aside, thanks for the info, Gary and Jack. Your input is very much appreciated!! >Jack VE3EED/W7 Walt, KB0VHB From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:20 1996 From: awall92116@aol.com (AWall92116) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: No Code = No Brain = C.B. Date: 12 Mar 1996 22:38:42 -0500 Message-ID: <4i5g02$61f@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <4h2q26$9e2@news.mcn.net> I have something to say about modifications to C.B.'s. If someone decides to hook up a linear or modify their radio, let them and don't give them hell about it. If it directly affects your radio or your home then you have a right to be mad. If they aren't bothering you, just let them be. Almost everyone that has a C.B. knows that making modifications or adding a linear is illegal. We don't need a hundred people telling us that. These people who have illegal equiptment are well aware that they are breaking the law and if they get caught that they will be in deep shit. So shut up about it already! Sincerely, AWall92116@aol.com "Curly" From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:22 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: No Code = No Brain = C.B. Message-ID: <1996Mar13.171045.21901@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: <4h20m5$4hl@uwm.edu> <4i5fms$5te@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 17:10:45 GMT In article <4i5fms$5te@newsbf02.news.aol.com> awall92116@aol.com (AWall92116) writes: >As far as the morse code goes, there is one main >reason for having morse code. The main reason is because it takes less >time to send than voice. By the time you finish talking to your contact >by voice, the other operator could have faded out or he could be having a >hard time understanding you. Morse is quick and easier to understand by >having a bunch of little dits and dahs rather than trying to understand >someone when they are trying to tell you their name. Morse code is more >practical to use in some instances rather than using voice. Actually, even good Morse operators can only send at a fraction of normal speech rate, though heavy use of abbreviations helps for common text. Usually the rate for proper text will be less than a quarter of normal speech rate. However, QSK ops can hear the band between code elements, which can be useful, and code does get through in some cases when voice modes would have difficulty (but some other digital methods are even better yet under those conditions). Knowing Morse can be useful, but no longer useful enough to make it a stand alone test element determining access to spectrum allowing other modulations. Those are really two separate issues. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:23 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: No Code = No Brain = C.B. Message-ID: <1996Mar13.171523.21998@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: <4h2q26$9e2@news.mcn.net> <4i5g02$61f@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 17:15:23 GMT In article <4i5g02$61f@newsbf02.news.aol.com> awall92116@aol.com (AWall92116) writes: >I have something to say about modifications to C.B.'s. If someone decides >to hook up a linear or modify their radio, let them and don't give them >hell about it. If it directly affects your radio or your home then you >have a right to be mad. If they aren't bothering you, just let them be. The problem is that they have already bothered us. The FCC made amateur HF linears bear Type Acceptance because of CBer abuse. That directly affects every amateur who wants a linear for legal amateur operation. Further abuse by renegade CBers could lead to further restrictions on law abiding amateurs, and that would bother us very much. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:24 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Message-ID: <199603110009.TAA01912@lucky.innet.com> From: "Richard J. Bolack" Subject: Operating Amateur Radio in Mexico Date: Sun, 10 Mar 96 19:01:37 -800 Message-Id: <199603110009.TAA01912@lucky.innet.com> From: "Richard J. Bolack" Date: Sun, 10 Mar 96 19:01:37 -800 Subject: Operating Amateur Radio in Mexico I am trying to learn how I can get permission to operate on two meters in Mexi co. I plan to travel to Guadalajara in April and to live in Mexico for several mon ths. I hold a Technician Plus licence. The FCC could not give me much information. I wrote to the Mexican Consulate, however, I have not received a reply and time is running out. Any help you can give will be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Elsie Bolack (KB4NRP) From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:25 1996 From: eckman@eos1.larc.nasa.gov (Richard Eckman) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: pre-RFD discussion: rec.radio.amateur.dx Date: 13 Mar 1996 14:08:26 GMT Message-ID: <4i6ksq$6u7@reznor.larc.nasa.gov> Reply-To: eckman@norfolk.infi.net Last autumn there was an effort to submit an RFD for the creation of a newsgroup related to DXing. The proponent, with the help of at least 17 other amateurs, composed a draft RFD (request for discussion) for the group which included a rationale and charter. Unfortunately, the process did not go forward for reasons unknown to me. I've attempted to contact the original proponent on a number of occasions with no success. I can only assume that he's left the usenet world for the time being. Is there still interest in pursuing an RFD for the creation of a DX newsgroup? The original intent was that a usenet group would take the DX-related traffic off of the "misc" amateur radio group and would compliment the existing DX-related mailing lists reflectors. I'm willing to take up the effort and submit the draft RFD through the appropriate means for discussion and (if it gets that far) a vote using the established "Guidelines for Usenet Group Creation". If there is interest in pursuing this (or, indeed, reasoned opposition), please send me e-mail. Regards, Richard Eckman KO4MR Hampton, VA eckman@norfolk.infi.net From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:26 1996 Date: 13 Mar 1996 11:13:00 +0200 From: kwp@rai.ping.at (Wolf Harranth) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Message-ID: <64oqJON--jB@rai.ping.at> Subject: Programmvorschau KW-PAN bei ROI RADIO OESTERREICH INTERNATIONAL Vorgesehen fuer das "KW-PANORAMA" vom 16. Marz 1996: - Wir plaudern mit den Berufsplauderern des neuen Talk Radio-Senders in Berlin - Alle Welt redet vom "Free Play"-Aufziehradio von BayGen. Wir haben ein Geraet aus der laufenden Serie gestestet - Beschaeftigt die CIA in den USA Reporter zur Unterwanderung der Stationen und zur gezielten Desfinformation? -------- RADIO AUSTRIA INTERNATIONAL Scheduled for "KW-Panorama", 16 March 1996 (German, with some English in between): - We talk to the talkmasters of the new Talk Radio Station in Berlin - Everybody else talks about BayGen's "Free Play" Clockwork Radio - we testet one from the shelf - Does the CIA employ reporters for secret activities in some radio stations and general desinformation of the public? For Europe: 0505, 1005, 1705 UTC - 6.155, 13.730; 2205 UTC - 5.945, 6.155. To The Americas: Sunday 0005 UTC - 9.655, 9.870, 13.730 For all other target areas see: http://wwww.ping.at/rai/ or ask for a free schedule -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wolf HARRANTH OE1WHC InterNet: kwp@rai.ping.at Radio Austria International Fido : 2:310/39.44 A-1136 Vienna Packet : OE1WHC@OE1XAB.AUT.EU Austria/Europe Fax : +43/1/87 87 8-44 04 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ## CrossPoint v3.1 R ## From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:27 1996 From: Timothy E. Nagle Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: QRP - HELP. Need to give speech Date: 13 Mar 1996 17:30:48 GMT Message-ID: <4i70o8$mi9@bb6k35.BB.Unisys.Com> On our clubs weekly 2M phone net I mentioned that I was interested on getting some information about QRP. Well, a few weeks later I received the clubs news letter with a schedule of up comming topics for the monthly club meeting. I was listed as the main presenter for May's meeting on the topic of QRP. I know close to nothing about it - that's why I was asking questions! If anyone has any good ideas for such a talk I would appreciate your help. Without a clue, Tim Nagle KB0QOM From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:28 1996 From: genek@dibbs.net Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Radios at Atlanta Olympic Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 18:00:10 -0500 Message-ID: <31435EFA.57A8@dibbs.net> References: <8BC2526.002900430A.uuout@hobbs.com> >> Subject: Radios at Atlanta Olympics > >The Olympics will be very ham-unfriendly. All frequencies in and > >around the Olympics have apparently been accounted for by the staff > >and, in the interest of security, 2-way radios of all kinds (inclu- > >ding amateur HT's, known for being able to be modified for out of > >band operation), are banned from the venues (where the events happen). > > H>I don't know if this includes cell phones, but by the way it sounded, > >it just might. Anyway, they've said not to bring your HT along, > >period. > > Why, what are they worried about? > --- > OLX 1.53 --------------> 73, de NK2U <---------------- > I can think of several things: 1. Security breaches.....remember the Munich Olympics? 2. Uncontrolled news releases or reports about events. 3. QRM 73 Gene WA4WBI From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:29 1996 From: landisj@nad.com (Joe Landis - Systems & Network Mgr) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.cb Subject: Re: Radios at Atlanta Olympic Message-ID: <1996Mar11.132115.468@nad.com> Date: 11 Mar 96 13:21:14 EST References: <8BC2526.002900430A.uuout@hobbs.com> <4ht80r$h0g@jupiter.tcac.com> <4i1er6$15@cloner4.netcom.com> Distribution: world In article <4i1er6$15@cloner4.netcom.com>, david804@ix.netcom.com writes: > doneal@tcac.com (Dave O'Neal) wrote: > >>roland.stiner@hobbs.com (ROLAND STINER) wrote: > > >>>To: ham@w3eax.umd.edu >>>Subject: Radios at Atlanta Olympics > >>>H>The Olympics will be very ham-unfriendly. All frequencies in and >>> >around the Olympics have apparently been accounted for by the staff >>> >and, in the interest of security, 2-way radios of all kinds (inclu- >>> >ding amateur HT's, known for being able to be modified for out of > ** ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>> >band operation), are banned from the venues (where the events happen). > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > WHATS THIS?!?!?! Ham's that break the rules?!?!? NO WAY!! :) hehehe.. > I thought us CB's are the only ones that break the rules.. :) hehehe.. > >>Sounds like the Olympics will be a real "class act" this time! > Yeah no kidding.. Nothing like paying the prices you would for an > Olympic ticket, only to sit next to some geek telling all his other > Ham friends everything that is going on.. That would be like sitting > next to John Maddan in a football game :) "Ok, he picked up the ball.. > He is running, ok, he is slowing down....." hehehehe.. > > --==David==-- Hehe, David, there's nothing in part 97 ("The Rules") that prevents a licensed amateur from modifying his equipment. Personally, I think that the ban is the result of pressure from a misguided major sponsor that thinks that ham handhelds will impact its cellular airtime income. Joe - AA3GN -- Joe Landis - Systems and Network Manager - North American Drager - Telford, PA landisj@nad.com ..speaking only for myself, of course.. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:31 1996 From: mead@dg.com (Glenn Mead) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Radios at Atlanta Olympic Date: Wed, 13 Mar 96 15:11:36 GMT Message-ID: <4i6oji$ktn@dg-rtp.dg.com> References: <8BC2526.002900430A.uuout@hobbs.com> <31435EFA.57A8@dibbs.net> In article <31435EFA.57A8@dibbs.net>, genek@dibbs.net wrote: >>> Subject: Radios at Atlanta Olympics >> >The Olympics will be very ham-unfriendly. All frequencies in and >> >around the Olympics have apparently been accounted for by the staff >> >and, in the interest of security, 2-way radios of all kinds (inclu- >> >ding amateur HT's, known for being able to be modified for out of >> >band operation), are banned from the venues (where the events happen). >> >> H>I don't know if this includes cell phones, but by the way it sounded, >> >it just might. Anyway, they've said not to bring your HT along, >> >period. >> > >> Why, what are they worried about? >> --- >> OLX 1.53 --------------> 73, de NK2U <---------------- >> I can think of several things: >1. Security breaches.....remember the Munich Olympics? I bet that security would be better having a bunch of hams around able to communicate. Denying (sp?) communications is no way to increase security. If security is that big of a problem, I won't go! >2. Uncontrolled news releases or reports about events. This implies that there are no pay phones. Could be a real bummer. >3. QRM QRM is already covered by FCC regs. I am not sure how this could even be enforced. Some of the new ht's are so small and have so little metal in them they would be easy to walk in with. Take the batteries out of an ICOM w31-a and give them to one person, give the wire antenna you made with a bnc to another person, and the third guy gets the ht..... >73 Gene WA4WBI .-------------------------------------------------------------------------. | Glenn Mead | KE4ZEA | | | Data General Corp. | e-mail mead@dg.com | Without challenge there | | 62 Alexander Dr. | voice 919/248-6029 | is no chance to excel. | | RTP, NC 27709 | fax 919/248-6108 | | |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| | packet KE4ZEA@KB4WGA.#DUR.NC.USA.NOAM | `-------------------------------------------------------------------------' From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:32 1996 From: mcs@crl.com (Nicholas McLarty) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy Subject: Re: Radios at Atlanta Olympics Date: 10 Mar 1996 16:12:35 -0800 Message-ID: <4hvr5j$oj7@crl13.crl.com> References: <4heuc1$7js@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> I can hear it now... Policymaker #1: "Okay, and how about enlisting the help of amateur radio operators?" Poicymaker #2: "Definitely not. Those CB's will interfere with our superior radio systems." Pfft, I think not...but with the intelligence level that some of these people have, I wouldn't be surprised if they said something like that. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ NICHOLAS R. McLARTY, C/TSgt, AFJROTC mcs@crl.com Texas 882nd AFJROTC Group: San Antonio, TX Amateur Radio Operator - KC5IUZ Official Emergency Station - South Texas Section, ARRL PGP Fingerprint 64 29 66 2B B4 53 C2 8D 33 73 A7 33 16 78 D1 05 Personal Home Page http://www.crl.com/~mcs TX-882 AFJROTC Web Page Appendix http://sparc2.umeres.maine.edu:5000 From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:33 1996 From: croaker@access.digex.net (Francis A. Ney, Jr.) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy Subject: Re: Radios at Atlanta Olympics Date: 10 Mar 1996 23:44:13 -0500 Message-ID: References: <4hqq5o$64r@news.interpath.net> Reply-To: croaker@access.digex.net In article <4hqq5o$64r@news.interpath.net> don@interpath.com writes: > If Atlanta is asking for Amateur Radio help for the Olympics, but > simultaneously > disallowing radio's, this could put a crimp in communications. Sounds like > Murphy > is alive and well! You haven't missed much, except the part where the people running the Atlanta Olympics have blown off hams and are willing to use trespass laws (and the Terrorism Bill, if it passes) to enforce that edict. Very well. Atlanta is one of the cities I can be sent to on business. So long as the city of Atlanta is an "International Enclave" and not under the jurisdiction of the United States and the State of Georgia, I will not set foot into it, and I will encourage others to do likewise. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:34 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: bb840@scn.org (James Aeschliman) Subject: Re: Radios at Atlanta Olympics Message-ID: Reply-To: bb840@scn.org (James Aeschliman) References: <4heuc1$7js@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> <4hlt0h$iju@firebrick.mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 23:04:03 GMT In a previous article, Gene@JetISI.Com (Gene Shablygin) says: -(text cut)- > >:> Four years ago I and several other active Atlanta area hams contacted >:> the Atlanta Committee for the Olympic Games about the possibility of >:> setting up amateur radio al la recent olympic games where special >:> stations were set up to contact stations around the world. I have >:> beautiful cards from Seoul for example. The person I spoke with was >:> not friendly at all, but asked to see one of the cards. I sent along >:> one (never did get it back) that fully explained the station and its >:> reason to be. The next week I got a terse letter back saying that >:> ACOG wanted no part of "amateur" activity. >:> -(text cut)- Personally, I think the reason for this is obvious. There's NO PROFIT in it. As you know, profit drives everything in USA these days, including the Olympic Games. -- Jim Aeschliman bb840@scn.org Black Diamond, Washington KD7MK From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:35 1996 From: kd1hz@anomaly.ideamation.com (Michael P. Deignan) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy Subject: Re: Radios at Atlanta Olympics Date: 14 Mar 1996 23:36:21 -0500 Message-ID: <4ias45$bt2@anomaly.ideamation.com> References: <4heuc1$7js@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> <4hs6i1$d15@nntp.texas.net> In article <4hs6i1$d15@nntp.texas.net>, Bob wrote: > >Yeah, what a bunch of JERKS!! I mean, like, nobobdy would EVER try to >do something organized and violent at the OLYMPICS, right???!! I guess all the terrorist leaders at Hesbula and Hamas are saying to themselves right now: "DARN! We can't bring radios to the Olympics! Call off the mission!" Not. There may be some legitimate reasons for restricting radio access at various points, but I think that terrorist security would be at the bottom of the list. After all, if a terrorist is going to come to blow you up, do you really think the fact that he can't bring his radio will make him stay home? MD -- -- -- "I have more guns than I need, and less guns than I want." -- Phil Graam -- -- If you don't like my opinions, that's just too damn bad. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:36 1996 From: Hans Brakob K0HB <71111.260@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Reciprocity with Mexico? Date: 12 Mar 1996 05:05:37 GMT Message-ID: <4i30n1$opu$1@mhadg.production.compuserve.com> References: <199603092240.OAA09047@eternity.c2.org> >This is 1996. Where's our agreement?< The agreement exists. Contact ARRL Regulatory Info Desk for details. 73, de Hans, K0HB -- 73, de Hans, K0HB --Without frequencies, there is no Amateur Radio Service! From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:37 1996 From: turner@safety.ICS.UCI.EDU (Clark Savage Turner WA3JPG) Subject: someone wanted HV bandswitch ? Message-ID: <6058.826573125@safety.ics.uci.edu> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.swap Date: 11 Mar 96 19:41:18 GMT Hello - I had email contact with someone looking for a nice HV bandswitch and lost the address in my morass of files. If you are out there, I found the bandswitch, and if you contact me I can tell you about it. Clark WA3JPG From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:37 1996 From: Hans Brakob K0HB <71111.260@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: SOS!!! Date: 13 Mar 1996 03:15:40 GMT Message-ID: <4i5eks$b1d$1@mhadg.production.compuserve.com> References: <4hur7g$21j@alpha.pcix.com> >SOS is like BT etc. so in my book it would be a prosign.< "Prosign" is actually the abbreviation of "Procedural Signal", so I guess I wouldn't classify SOS as a prosign, even though sent without inter-character spaces. Whatever our opinion, I guess we all would pay attention if we heard it, and not spend too much time deciding if it qualified as a prosign, 3 separate characters, or whatever! -- 73, de Hans, K0HB --Without frequencies, there is no Amateur Radio Service! From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:38 1996 From: grhosler@mmm.com (Gary Hosler - KN0Z) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Subscribe DX-Reflector, How ? Date: Thu, 07 Mar 1996 21:41:05 GMT Message-ID: <4hnlt6$4ap@dawn.mmm.com> References: <17MqBBAo3fPxEwRa@gi0otc.demon.co.uk> Alan Doherty wrote: >Hello All, > How do I subscribe to the DX-reflector ? >73's >-- >Alan Doherty, GI0OTC Send a note to: dx-request@ve7tcp.ampr.org and place the word "subscribe" in the body of the note. Opinions expressed herein are my own and may not represent those of 3M. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:39 1996 From: cummings@stingray.net (Matthew Cummings) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: T-hunts and N6MBR'S tbox Date: 11 Mar 1996 16:03:25 GMT Message-ID: <4i1isd$g71@stingray.net> I'm wondering if anybody knows of a site I can ftp or even a bbs I could call where the eprom code is available so I upgrade my tbox. I'm running version 1.08 and I know that a later version is out, but the old bbs number is no more and I can't locate it via archie. -- Internet: cummings@stingray.net From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:40 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: jrosenw@pgh.nauticom.net (Johnny) Subject: Re: Technician Plus Message-ID: Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 12:04:51 GMT References: <4hihf3$5l2@firebrick.mindspring.com> <3140219E.45F9@telepath.com> Ken Harrison (ken@cs.sonoma.edu) wrote: : On Fri, 8 Mar 1996, Steve Sampson wrote: : > You must not be very active... : > : > A Technician is a beginner Ham. Plus means you know (knew) Morse Code : > at a maximum speed of 5 words per minute. Technician Plus Hams can send : > CW in the Novice HF bands, and do SSB on the 10 meter band (No AM or FM : > though). : > : > Steve : Hi Steve... Actually, to be a little bit more accurate regarding the : "maximum" speed... Would it be more correct to say a maximum speed of : "up to but not including 13 wpm?" Maybe better would be "at least 5 wpm : but not 13 wpm." : The 5 wpm maximum just didn't quite set well with me. Had to be said. :-) Who is to say that the tech plus couldn't copy 25 wpm ? Or, maybe he can't copy code at all anymore. Maybe he can't pass the written. Maybe he can, but doesn't want to. Maybe there hasn't been an exam in his area for several years. All we can really say is that the tech + has passed a 5wpm test. We really can't say much more. John From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:41 1996 From: "Anthony R. Gold" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Technician Plus Date: Tue, 12 Mar 96 13:40:49 GMT Message-ID: <826638049snz@microvst.demon.co.uk> References: <4hihf3$5l2@firebrick.mindspring.com> <3140219E.45F9@telepath.com> Reply-To: tgold@microvst.demon.co.uk In article jrosenw@pgh.nauticom.net "Johnny" writes: > All we can really say is that the tech + has passed a 5wpm test. > We really can't say much more. In fact one can not even say as much as this. A pass any one of Elements 1(A) or 1(B) or 1(C) may be used as satisfying the Morse Code part of the qualification in an application for this or for the Novice Class of license. Set Part 97.501(e) Regards, -- Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM email: tgold@panix.com tgold@microvst.demon.co.uk packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:42 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: Technician Plus Message-ID: <1996Mar12.165612.16424@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: <4hihf3$5l2@firebrick.mindspring.com> <3140219E.45F9@telepath.com> <826638049snz@microvst.demon.co.uk> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 16:56:12 GMT In article <826638049snz@microvst.demon.co.uk> tgold@microvst.demon.co.uk writ es: >In article > jrosenw@pgh.nauticom.net "Johnny" writes: > >> All we can really say is that the tech + has passed a 5wpm test. >> We really can't say much more. > >In fact one can not even say as much as this. > >A pass any one of Elements 1(A) or 1(B) or 1(C) may be used as satisfying >the Morse Code part of the qualification in an application for this or for >the Novice Class of license. Set Part 97.501(e) And unless the FCC has changed its mind lately (possible since the move to an all VE exam system), they'll accept a First or Second Class Radiotelegraph certificate in lieu of any amateur Morse speed test. So you could get a Tech+ license without taking any of 1(A), 1(B), or 1(C). No written credit for the commercial certificate, however, since at least the rules and regs part is different. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:43 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: jbl@levin.mv.com (Joel B Levin) Subject: Re: Technician Plus Message-ID: <31465834.347088101@quartz.mv.com> Reply-To: jbl@levin.mv.com Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 05:35:21 GMT References: <4hihf3$5l2@firebrick.mindspring.com> <3140219E.45F9@telepath.com> <826638049snz@microvst.demon.co.uk> <1996Mar12.165612.16424@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> In <1996Mar12.165612.16424@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, Gary Coffman wrote: |And unless the FCC has changed its mind lately (possible since the |move to an all VE exam system), they'll accept a First or Second |Class Radiotelegraph certificate in lieu of any amateur Morse speed |test. So you could get a Tech+ license without taking any of 1(A), |1(B), or 1(C). No written credit for the commercial certificate, |however, since at least the rules and regs part is different. Pretty sure this is still valid. Certainly it also works the other way: an Amateur Extra license stands in lieu of the 2nd class Radiotelegraph code test requirement. -- Nets: levin@bbn.com | "There were sweetheart roses on Yancey Wilmerding's or jbl@levin.mv.com| bureau that morning. Wide-eyed and distraught, she POTS: (617)873-3463 | stood with all her faculties rooted to the floor." ARS: KD1ON | -- S. J. Perelman From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:45 1996 From: rdavis@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Robert Davis) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Topeka KS Sunday March 24 Date: 12 Mar 1996 07:51:52 -0700 Distribution: usa Message-ID: <4i4328$ikp@nyx10.cs.du.edu> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 96 20:14:49 CST Message-ID: <45218@WZ0M> (45218@WZ0M) From: N0OFG@WZ0M To: FOX@ALLKS Subject: Foxhunt in Topeka 24 March 1996 Path: WZ0M Everyone is invited to the Foxhunt in Topeka Sunday, March 24 immediately following the Swapfest at the Seventh Day Adventist Church/School, 2345 s.w. Wanamaker. Doors Open at 8:00am and ends at 2:00pm with the foxhunt immediately following. Admission is FREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anyone wanting space/tables or information call Steve KB0JYL 913-267-6753 anytime. 73 and see you there de Jon N0OFG Date: Mon, 11 Mar 96 20:04:52 CST Message-ID: <45217@WZ0M> (45217@WZ0M) From: N0OFG@WZ0M To: SWAP@ALLKS Subject: Swap Fest in Topeka Path: WZ0M There will be a swapfest held in Topeka on Sunday March 24, 1996 at the Seventh Day Adventist Church/School, 2345 S.W. Wanamaker in Topeka. Setup is at 7:00 am with doors opening at 8:00. Swapfest will close at 2:00pm with a foxhunt following. Foxhunt will last no more than 2 hours for those out of town. ADMISSION IS FREE! FREE! FREE! FREE! Tables are $10.00, or spaces $8.00 if you bring your own tables (Limited number of Tables. Call ahead for availability) Tables, reservations or questions can be sent to Steve KB0JYL Phone: 913-267-6753 Packet: kb0jyl@n0ljk.#neks.ks.usa Email:shamilton@hercules.kspress.com 73 and pse spread the word de Jon N0OFG -- rdavis@nyx.net Robert (Bob) Davis Amateur Radio K0FPC Emporia, Kansas From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:47 1996 From: Cole Cunningham Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Use of radio on passenger airlines Date: 11 Mar 1996 13:31:00 -0700 Message-ID: <31448D65.3019@coltechinc.com> References: Check the amateur rules of the FCC, specifically 97.11(c) where it says..."For a station aboard an aircraft, the apparatus (ham station) shall not be operated while the aircraft is operating under Instrument Flight Rules, as defined by the FAA, unless ther station has been found to comply with all applicable FAA rules".. Since all commercial aircraft flights operate under IFR all the time, regardless of weather, and most likely your station hasn't been checked out on that particular aircraft, its against the rules... The primary navigation and landing aids on an aircraft (VOR and ILS) operate in the 108-118 MHz range, the vertical guidance (glideslope) is in the 330 MHz range, and we all know what close transmitters do to our ham radios. So would you like to be making an approach in bad weather to landing minimums (100 ft ceiling and 1/4 mile visibility ahead) and about the time you get low, somebody keys his mike, turns on his laptop, fires up the cellular, turns on the electric razor, etc... OOPS, aw shucks.... The possibilities for interference are endless, and all commercial aircraft are thoroughly checked BEFORE critical use to make sure they don't have any spooks... So for your OWN protection, keep the HT in the OFF position while on board... Cole Cunningham, Commercial, Instrument and Multiengine rated pilot, Avionics Design Engineer for 20+ yrs, FAA Licensed Repairman, FCC General Ticket, Amateur Extra.... From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:48 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: jangus@netcom.com (Jeffrey D. Angus) Subject: Re: Use of radio on passenger airlines Message-ID: References: <4hniu4$pfl$2@mhadg.production.compuserve.com> <1996Mar11.160441.10908@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 02:29:37 GMT gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) writes: > Yeah, it *probably* won't cause a problem, but when several hundred > lives may depend on it, why take a chance? Air travel is very safe, > but one of the reasons it is very safe is that the regulations attempt > to rule out even remote chances of a problem. And again, keying up a transmitter probably won't cause to plane to auger into the ground or explode into flames. (Which is the ill-informed answer I always see to "Why cant I use my HT on an airplane?".) I certainly do not advocate transmitting on a commercial airline. And again, it's cheaper by far to follow the regulations and just keep your hand off the PTT button, than to pay for certification that your (type- accepted, not home brewed) transmitter is safe for use on board the plane(s) of your choice. 73 es GE from jeff -- Amateur: WA6FWI@WA6FWI.#SOCA.CA.USA.NA | "It is difficult to imagine our Internet: jangus@skyld.grendel.com | universe run by a single omni- US Mail: PO Box 4425 Carson, CA 90749 | potent god. I see it more as a Phone: 1 (310) 324-6080 | badly run corporation." From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:49 1996 From: Hans Brakob K0HB <71111.260@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Use of radio on passenger airlines Date: 12 Mar 1996 18:29:20 GMT Message-ID: <4i4fq0$63l$1@mhadg.production.compuserve.com> References: >...certification that your (type-accepted, not home brewed) >transmitter is safe... Never mind that _amateur_ transmitters, except for HF amplifiers, are not FCC type-accepted anyhow. (Before you argue, note that the FCC sticker on your HT relates to Part 15 certification, not Part 97 type acceptance. It's a whole different thing.) -- 73, de Hans, K0HB --Without frequencies, there is no Amateur Radio Service! From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:50 1996 From: sail@fast.net Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Used Equipment near Dayton, Ohio? Date: 10 Mar 1996 23:27:08 GMT Message-ID: <4hvogc$bo3@nn.fast.net> WIll be in Dayton, Ohio around March 25. Does anyone know if there is an amat eur radio outlet within an hours drive of Dayton that sells used gear? Would appreciate any info. 73, Tom - NF3V From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:50 1996 From: scanware@sincom.com (Gene McAvoy) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: USS MISSOURI SPECIAL EVENT QSLS Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 14:47:35 GMT Message-ID: <4i9be7$1lk@news.cais.com> Reply-To: scanware@sincom.com If you made a contact with the USS Missouri during their special event of Sep 1-4, 1995 and have not sent for your QSL...it's NOT too late. A QSL for every contact was prepared and is waiting for your SASE. Send your QSL to: QSL Manager, KG7XD USS Missouri Project - WW2END PO Box 1743 Silverdale, WA 98383-1743 You WON'T be disappointed by the card you receive in return. It is a 'real' collectors classic. Also, if you missed making your contact...an SASE and your QSL will still bring you a souvenir card without contact info. 73 to all, Gene McAvoy / KG7XD QSL Manager WW2END From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:51 1996 From: Al Wong Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Vanity call sign gates Date: 11 Mar 1996 23:54:04 GMT Message-ID: <4i2ees$n1u@linus.mitre.org> Does anyone know when the vanity callsign gates will be opened? I searched all through the FCC web sight and found nothing. Thanks AL -- Al Wong The above opinion does not reflect that KF4GDD of my employer. As with ALL my opinions, alwong@mitre.org I write them, you intrepret them. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:52 1996 From: Stephan M. Anderman Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Vanity call sign gates Date: Mon, 11 Mar 96 22:26:37 -0500 Message-ID: References: <4i2ees$n1u@linus.mitre.org> Sorry Al, no one does! Not even the Commission. A recent ARRL bulletin noted that FCC first has to deal with several Petitions for Reconsideration and finish dealing with the implementation of the Telecommunications Act of 1996 recently passed by Congress and signed by President Clinton. Expect a Public Notice no earlier than mid-Summer, the way thing currently look. Stephan Anderman, WA3RKB Stillwater, NY sanderman@delphi.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:53 1996 From: Hans Brakob K0HB <71111.260@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy Subject: Wake Up Call! Date: 12 Mar 1996 02:49:15 GMT Message-ID: <4i2onb$6m3$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> The radio spectrum now represents the scarcest and most vital resource in international communications. As the world's fixed, cellular, broadcast and satellite communications networks spread to provide global coverage, and new competitors enter the marketplace to challenge the incumbent operators, the pressure to justify our generous allocations will only intensify. To this existing pressure, add the emerging “PCS” applications and the picture grows even more disturbing. To meet existing and future demand there is a clear need to promote the use of newer and more spectrum efficient technologies. Because almost all of our allocations are also shared with other radio services (a major portion of which we are classified as a secondary occupant) there is also a need to develop strategies to ensure that we are “tolerable” partners to other occupants. It’s time to go to work, folks! It is significant to note that the turf which will come under pressure is not down on HF but almost exclusively above 100mhz. It is time for us here on r.r.a.POLICY to abandon the tired old debates which divide our ranks on trivial issues like CW, or HT’S at the Olympic Games, and instead combine our talents and brainpower on techniques and strategies aimed at ensuring our survival. Without frequencies, there is no Amateur Radio Service. Will you help? -- 73, de Hans, K0HB --Without frequencies, there is no Amateur Radio Service! From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:55 1996 From: rwa@cs.athabascau.ca (Ross Alexander) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy Subject: Re: Wake Up Call! Date: 14 Mar 1996 18:30:04 GMT Message-ID: <4i9ojc$ngg@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <4i2onb$6m3$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> <4i4ur2$p2b@usenet.pa.dec.com> little@pecan.enet.dec.com (Todd Little) writes: >[...] in the Chicago area there is little activity on anything >other than 2 meter and 70 cm repeaters when it comes to VHF+. >220 is not particularly well occupied and 903 MHz is *much* less >occupied. 1296 MHz is a little better occupied and above that >it is a handful of experimenters. [...] And Chicagoland is a major metro center. I live in DO34 (look it up :). I'm lucky to be able to talk to 2 or 3 other stations on 2m simplex, even with 18 dBd of yagis and an 85' tower. Above that it's absolutely zilch. That's IF you're talking terrestrial simplex. What if we could get a whole crowd of 70cm/23cm split fm repeaters into orbit? That would let people with fairly pedestrian gear work a much larger potential pool of other amateurs, and gets around the "which came first, the chicken or the egg" problem. Then you can count on occupation pressure to drive them into the second generation of 23cm/12cm machines, and so on. Could some clever person comment on how severe the doppler problem would be? regards, Ross ve6pdq -- Ross Alexander, ve6pdq -- (403) 675 6311 -- rwa@cs.athabascau.ca From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:56 1996 From: Hans Brakob K0HB <71111.260@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Wake Up Call! Date: 14 Mar 1996 14:30:26 GMT Message-ID: <4i9ai2$5i6$1@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> References: David Stine said: >Pardon my sarcasm, Gary, but here's the fact: most people in >radio today (most, not all) want it all handed to them on a >china plate, with back-lit LCD panels, at ever-decreasing >prices. Scantily clad models fawning over the equipment at >trade shows helps, but is optional. With all due respect to your opinion, we already know the PROBLEMS. Can we direct our attention, in a good-faith cooperative manner, to SOLUTIONS in this thread? -- 73, de Hans, K0HB --Without frequencies, there is no Amateur Radio Service! From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:56 1996 From: Hans Brakob K0HB <71111.260@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Wake Up Call! Date: 15 Mar 1996 05:16:09 GMT Message-ID: <4iauep$ij8$1@mhadf.production.compuserve.com> References: <4i9nee$gof@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> N8WCT asked a fair question: >Are you posting for yourself, or the ARRL?< Anything I post, unless I quote someone, is my own opinion. Sometimes it may agree with ARRL opinion, sometimes maybe not, but nothing I say here should be interpreted as anything but Hans talking. -- 73, de Hans, K0HB --Without frequencies, there is no Amateur Radio Service! From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:58 1996 From: wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy Subject: Re: Wake Up Call! Date: 15 Mar 1996 05:03:50 GMT Message-ID: <4iatnm$9nc@cc.iu.net> References: <4i2onb$6m3$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> <1996Mar12.163622.16132@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4i7o22$mg0@usenet.pa.dec.com> Reply-To: wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) In , dsa@netcom.com (David S.A. Stine) writes: >So I'm all ears. I think I've got my finger on the root cause of the >problem. What is the ham community able to do about this tidal wave of >scientific and mathematical ignorance? >dsa well from a reference material stand point, the arrl could dust off 'Understan ding Amateur Radio'. maybe someone could convince Russ Hanson to write that "how we got here" text he talks about doing every so often. (Russ thinks there 's a real need for a book that goes to the basics of RF design - explaining how t he engineers of the 40/50's laid a foundation for the developments that came alon g in the 60/70/80's. a foundation that's been "built in" to modern simulation so ftware to the point where the user has no idea of what assumptions are being made and that he gets a result that works in the real world...), and there was somethin g a few days ago where Chris Bowick was doing a 2nd edition of his book... books like "First Steps in Radio" looked like they strained to fill the space available. indeed, maybe some of those types of publications that are of limited use to established amateurs (like FSIR) should be mostly on a web page for reference. .. but it would be nice to see Understanding Amateur Radio again (and no cute cartoons and "chatty" prose...) Bill Newkirk WB9IVR The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group Melbourne, FL duty now for the future of amateur radio Lombardi's 1st Law of Business: Companies succeed in spite of their best effort. If they succeed at all. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:23:59 1996 From: Mark Schoonover Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy Subject: Re: Wake Up Call! Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 11:05:36 -0800 Message-ID: <3149BF80.33A1@cts.com> References: <4i2onb$6m3$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> <4i4ur2$p2b@usenet.pa.dec.com> <4i9ojc$ngg@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca> Ross Alexander wrote: > > little@pecan.enet.dec.com (Todd Little) writes: > > > Could some clever person comment on how severe the doppler problem > would be? > That's simple -- just walk faster hihi! Mark -- KA6WKE From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:24:00 1996 From: cbaldwin@vllyoak.resun.com (Christopher Baldwin) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: wanted: GE mastr pro info Message-ID: <0XsJkD2w165w@vllyoak.resun.com> Date: Sat, 09 Mar 96 16:09:20 PST Have a ge mastr pro on 447.7 need books manuals and controller. please let me know chris kf6ajm -- Christopher Baldwin cbaldwin%vllyoak.resun.com%blkhole@sdd.hp.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:24:01 1996 From: Michael J Wooding Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,alt.radio.pirate,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,uk.radio.amateur Subject: Re: Weird Radio Problem Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 11:45:09 +0000 Distribution: world Message-ID: References: In article <4idjm1$f0c@madeline.INS.CWRU.Edu>, David Mark writes >What's happening is your radio is probably tuned to an FM station >near the upper end of the band (around 107-108mhz) and you're >probably under a flight path. When a plane is nearby (there's >that word again) and the pilot transmits on one of the lower >airline frequencies, your radio's less than discriminating tuner >picks it up. Whilst that is very feasible, due to the low powers transmitted by aircraft (RX levels of the order of less than -90dBm even with the sorts of aerials and masts etc., that we use in the CAA !) then I would imagaine that the aircraft must be relatively low when overflying his property to cause these signals to be strong enough to swamp the radio. Mike Michael J Wooding vhf-comm@g6iqm.demon.co.uk - CompuServe: 100441,377 WWW: http://www.eolas.co.uk/ag/vhfcomm.htm (hambits.htm & hamclip.htm) WWW: http://www.clearlight.com/~vhfcomm Tel: (0)1788 890365 Fax: (0)1788 891883 KM Publications, 5 Ware Orchard, Barby, Nr.Rugby, CV23 8UF, UK VHF Communications Magazine - Especially Covering VHF, UHF and Microwaves From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:24:02 1996 From: JA Glasscock Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: What do I need to Build a repeater Date: 12 Mar 1996 01:47:21 GMT Message-ID: <4i2l39$j63@golden.ncw.net> What do I need to build, or make a repeater, and where do I get it? mailto:glass@televar.com mail to me with Vance Repeater in the subject line. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:24:03 1996 From: nhar@execpc.com (Nels Harvey) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Wisconsin Hamfests ? Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 20:24:57 GMT Message-ID: <4i9vai$rkg@daily-planet.execpc.com> References: <31474F44.128A@gsfc.nasa.gov> "A. john Gainsborough" chiseled in stone: >A friend of mine travels regularly to Wisconsin and is interested in >attending hamfests in that part of the country. Any suggestions that I >could pass on to him? >73, John KM6LJ There is a good Hamfest in Madison on April 14, and a good hamfest in Cedarburg, near Milwaukee on May 4th as well. Email me for further information. 73, Nels.... From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:24:04 1996 From: Gene Shablygin Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment Subject: WTB: Drake TR7/TR7A/R7 Date: Mon, 11 Mar 96 23:01:52 PDT Message-ID: Looking for good TR7A or TR7 loaded with Noize Blanker, Digital Readout, filters, with power supply and other goodies; also interested in R7A (or, again, loaded R7). Please e-mail to GENE@JETISI.COM From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:24:05 1996 From: asperges@innotts.co.uk (Jeremy Boot) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: WWW Pages Date: Sat, 09 Mar 1996 09:44:36 GMT Message-ID: <31414de7.2254056@news.innotts.co.uk> Reply-To: asperges@innotts.co.uk Updated for March and awarded *** by the .net mag (big Internet Magazine) http://www.innotts.co.uk/~asperges/ The pages contain: * An introduction to Amateur Radio, * Questions and answers, * Lots of Links to useful Radio pages; * Local information on the QTH and area; * IRC Link; * Link to the RSGB News; * Friends on the Net * New Pages for Listeners (SWL) Lots of OMs have called already. There are a plenty of links too. I could still do with more from your area. 3550 visitors to date. All welcome. 73 de Jeremy G4NJH asperges@innotts.co.uk [Home, Am Radio, SWL pages: http://www.innotts.co.uk/~asperges/ ] From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:24:06 1996 From: Pete McQuail Newsgroups: uk.radio.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: WWW pages Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 19:38:36 +0000 Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <4hvg4e$9is@fhbgb1.itl.net> In article <4hvg4e$9is@fhbgb1.itl.net>, Geoff Brown writes >Readers may be interested in the new additions at: >http://user.itl.net/~equinox > >These pages now contain a near real, MUF, E Layer and F2 >links, plus lots more new additions. >Geoff > Superb page! The X-Ray flux link, in particular, is very usefull. Keep up the good work Geoff. Pete Mcquail, G8DCJ From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:24:06 1996 From: dale@exo.com (R. Dale Piedfort) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Yaesu Closing out FT-530 Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 13:32:36 GMT Message-ID: <4i3ufe$4f2@news.snni.com> Yaesu is closing out the FT-530 Dual Band Hand Held for $299.95 This is one of the most reliable hand helds ever made. Some of the features include: Dual CTCSS encode/decode 82 memory channels Private Paging Capabilities Built in Battery Saver Full Duplex Cross Band Operation Plus many other features Call any of the AUTHORIZED YAESU dealers now before the supply runs out. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 16:24:08 1996 From: byrnes@fc.hp.com (John Byrnes) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment Subject: Re: Yaesu FT-11R ... anyone use this radio? Date: 14 Mar 1996 18:15:26 GMT Message-ID: <4i9nnu$2gk@fcnews.fc.hp.com> References: <4i55f3$dqv@sundog.tiac.net> <4i7pi3$2cfq@CT1.SNET.Net> Reply-To: byrnes@fc.hp.com Carl H Nord (cnord@mail.snet.net) wrote: > bspring@tiac.net wrote: > > I was wondering if anyone has used or owned the Yaesu FT-11R HT? > >Because of the great advice I received from other hams from this newsgroup, > >I have decided to get an HT. Had a few questions: > >Any significant intermod problems? Batt problems? Can I use an external > >mike, antenna, etc? Intermod seems to be better than average, but can still get you. Battery problems? Not any caused by the radio. I have a hot rod, and I know people who've used mag-mounts successfully with theirs. I have yet to get a external speaker/mike, but may do that soon. > I love mine. It is probably the 6th or 7th HT I have owned and by far > my favorite. > It is a nice size, covers the entire Aircraft and commercial VHF > bands, and just works well. Yes, I like mine too. However, before you buy make sure the *particular* FT-11R you buy doesn't have excessive CTCSS modulation. This is a problem for some series of them, and not others (I am waiting for a service bulletin from Yeasu). Have someone transmit using the FT-11R with and without the tone turned on. If you hear a hum, it's too loud (it should be sub-audible by definition). If you buy the optional CTCSS decode board, you will be able to adjust the modulation. > It has a lot of functions and you will simplify your life greatly if > you spring for the ADMS-1 computor inerface. Don't do this unless you have a computer! :-) Personally, having a computer at home would cause more problems than programming my HT. John KB0UNC From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:04:36 1996 From: jackl@pinetree.microserve.com (WB3U) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 'cell driving' illegal Date: Tue, 12 Mar 96 20:41:24 GMT Message-ID: <4i4npd$f2d@crash.microserve.net> References: <4h72d6$ep3@acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us> <1996Mar4.165849.13763@schbbs.mot.com> sorgatz@avatar.tti.com (Erik K.Sorgatz) wrote: o10022@a81.corp.mot.com writes: >>Regardless, I for one strongly would prefer to see stern laws made >>and enforced against using hand-held phones (or "like" devices) >>while driving. >> >>Tony KC7HDT > > WHY? Just because the common morons can't operate a phone and drive >at the same time you want to penalize the rest of us? Sounds absurd >to me! Some states still have laws that allow ticketing a driver who doesn't have both hands on the wheel. The real moron is the guy who doesn't understand the reason for this. 73, Jack WB3U From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:04:37 1996 From: Hans Brakob K0HB <71111.260@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 'cell driving' illegal Date: 13 Mar 1996 22:52:09 GMT Message-ID: <4i7jip$5ic$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> References: <4i6skcINN98u@network.ucsd.edu> Brent Jones had a thought: >Perhaps we should just outlaw morons...< Cool! I always wanted to be an outlaw.... In the movies their girlfriends always seemed more interesting than Dale Evans or Tonto. "Gidyap hoss, we're headed for the Long Branch! I heard Mr. Dillon and Festus are out of town, so I'm gonna go visit Miss Kitty." -- 73, de Hans, K0HB --Without frequencies, there is no Amateur Radio Service! From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:04:38 1996 From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: (Ham stressors - Burt Fisher) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 06:05:57 -0500 Message-ID: <3147FD95.7395@ccsnet.com> References: <3142BF21.402@ccsnet.com> <4hs92i$oc6@news.linknet.net> <3146ADED.21EE@ccsnet.com> <1996Mar13.164736.115943@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> To: Bill Bill wrote: > > Burt, > > I've read most of your postings, and have come to the conclusion that > perhaps there is at least one thing you and I DON'T have in common -- LOW > self-esteem! You have low self esteem? #================#=====================================================# | Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | | Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | | K1OIK | If you sit on the fence, it is a pain in the butt | #================#=====================================================# | k1oik@ccsnet.com | #======================================================================# You cannot build a reputation on what you are going to do. Henry Ford From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:04:39 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: (Ham stressors - Burt Fisher) Message-ID: <1996Mar13.164736.115943@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> From: Bill Date: 13 Mar 96 16:47:35 CST References: <3142BF21.402@ccsnet.com> <4hs92i$oc6@news.linknet.net> <3146ADED.21EE@ccsnet.com> To: k1oik@ccsnet.com Burt, I've read most of your postings, and have come to the conclusion that perhaps there is at least one thing you and I DON'T have in common -- LOW self-esteem! Bill AA4FM/0 Eudora, Kansas, USA From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:04:40 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur Message-ID: <2@sapphire.win-uk.net> Reply-To: scollin@sapphire.win-uk.net (Simon Collings) From: scollin@sapphire.win-uk.net (Simon Collings) Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 18:04:40 GMT Subject: *** ANNOUNCE: MUFsight Propagation Prediction Demo Available *** Announcing MUFsight, the Windows HF propagation prediction software that plots MUF/LUF data on a world map. A demo of this software together with further details of the packages are available from my home page. http://www.ibmpcug.co.uk/~g4sgi/ Also available: FREE SWL working aids; download FRG-100 Sprite demo; download FREE PC-MONITOR (FRG-8800 DOS control); download Icom Quicksilver demo (R7100 Windows conreol); download AOR software demos; links to other radio related pages on the WWW. Simon -- Simon Collings, G4SGI Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, ENGLAND http://www.ibmpcug.co.uk/~g4sgi/ From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:04:41 1996 From: Robert Bissett Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 14100 kHz beacons Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 01:12:41 -0500 Message-ID: <31466759.3B68@monmouth.com> References: <313FA717.735B@algonet.se> <4hr1ep$38t@acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us> <976@safn8.UUCP> <1996Mar11.173846.11451@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4i2sn4$p55@acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us> <1996Mar12.164506.16318@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Gary Coffman wrote: > > In article <4i2sn4$p55@acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us> gfoley@freenet.columbus. oh.us (Gerard Foley) writes: > > > > Haven't checked today, but I thought that when unattended automatic > >stations were permitted (without STA) they were forbidden to be on 14100 > >KHz. Of course, if the operators pretend they are not unattended, they > >can trash anybody. > > Their *tone* frequencies may be above 14.1 MHz, but their *sidebands* > sometimes aren't. Too many operators seem to think that because the > tones are separated by 200 Hz, that they are only occupying 200 Hz. > Not so, of course, because the sidebands extend out a multiple of the > modulation rate (baud), so they're occupying at least 600 Hz (and more) > when they transmit. If they aren't careful, this will spill over onto > 14.100 MHz. > > Receiver filters aren't perfect either, and they pass some signal > above 14.100 MHz when tuned to that frequency. So even if the packeteers > are operating legally, they can still cause problems for those trying > to listen to 14.100 MHz. > > Gary > -- > Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems > Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp addre sses > 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org > Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | Yes, and another thing these dipstick operators do not seem to know is that in most of the transmitters the frequency shown in the panel display is not the actual center frequency of the tones. In my Yeasu in LSB using afsk from a PK-232 the tones are 2110 and 2310 Hz below the "indicated" frequency. I have given up trying to explain this as simple math is too much for them. I had one operator tell me he wasn't interfering because his dial reading was 14.103. Bob ND2L -- ********* Bob Bissett rbissett@monmouth.com ********* From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:04:42 1996 From: kc7fys@aol.com (KC7FYS) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 40m Qrp, kit Date: 14 Mar 1996 11:20:08 -0500 Message-ID: <4i9gvo$fko@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <199603132245.OAA13157@calvin.cns.tisc.titan.com> Reply-To: kc7fys@aol.com (KC7FYS) I am also interested in the same subject, a qrp kit small for this band. Have you had any luck? Jonathan KC7FYS/7J1AWL I have some other catalogs, and I recommend the arrl information on the subject. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:04:43 1996 From: bb@tisc.titan.com (Bill Bennett) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: 40m Qrp, kit Date: 13 Mar 1996 17:45:46 -0500 Message-ID: <199603132245.OAA13157@calvin.cns.tisc.titan.com> There was a evaluation of qrp kits by i believe 73 this month. One of the kits, a 40 meter xciver was available to their club members only. I beleve the club was the bay area DX club. Does any one know where to get the kit? and /or join their club? Bill KC6YOX (619) 4334626 bb@tisc.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:04:43 1996 From: god@netaxs.com (God) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: 49Mhz Radio Shack Handheld Date: Fri, 15 Mar 96 03:34:49 GMT Message-ID: <4iaohl$msc@netaxs.com> I saw a mod in the oakland archives from a WHILE back mentioning that it was possible to mod the radio shack 49Mhz walkie talkies for the 6 meter band. Does anyone have any details on this? The oakland archives go dry after only a teaser. thanks From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:04:44 1996 From: Brandon DuRette Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: 6.2 Morse Whereabouts? Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 02:34:16 -0500 Message-ID: <31467A78.54C56D5@mit.edu> In the HAM-HOWTO faq (http://www-personal.engin.umich.edu/~jgotts/linuxhamsoft.html) there is mention of a program called 6.2 Morse or superiormorse, a morse-code practice program for Unix. The ftp site that is listed in this faq (sepftp.stanford.edu) doesn't seem to have this program. Can anyone direct me to another location where I might find it? Thanks, Brandon From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:04:45 1996 From: rkissell@earth.execpc.com (Rick Kissell) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: 6m OPEN 3/20 0015Z Wisc to W1, W3 W4 Date: 19 Mar 1996 18:17:32 -0600 Message-ID: <4iniqs$oq1@earth.alpha.net> Six meters is open NOW (0015 GMT, March 20) from southeastern Wisconsin to W1, W3 and W4. Good hunting! WB9GYT EN62ax Milwaukee, WI From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:04:46 1996 From: "Jose Carrion (KP4E)" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 9U/EA1FH QSL route? Date: 18 Mar 1996 15:15:13 GMT Message-ID: <4ijum1$ek7@dfw-ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> References: <4if620$420@omnifest.uwm.edu> The QSL info for 9U/EA1FH is via.....EA1FFC Good Luck! 73 José (KP4E) From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:04:47 1996 From: Steve Sampson Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Airport/Aircraft Regulations Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 09:13:57 -0600 Message-ID: <314ADAB5.5BFA@telepath.com> References: <4hd526$7kp@news.one.net> <00001fef+0000415c@msn.com> Jeffrey Towle wrote: > The regulations against using handhelds on the aircraft are > comparable to fears about walking under ladders, or stepping on > cracks in the sidewalk. ... You'd be surprised what a malfunctioning radio can produce, and still be communicating. A friend bought one of those MFJ analyzers and was testing everones rubber-duck. He said one of the guys antenna was an open! It was that way for years. He said with a new antenna, the whole dang city can be heard... > Over the years, I've used 2-meter radios on commercial flights (after > asking permission) and it is interesting, even if you only listen to > the number of repeaters you can hear simultaneously. > The basic problem is that airlines have lots of things to worry > about, ... Generally speaking, the airlines still use the route system of VOR's. They do have some fancy equipment for navigation, but the "after-takeoff" and "descent" part of the flight are usually vectors to a VOR. The VHF radio operating on 146 MHz is about 30 MHz away from the VOR frequencies. Since most Hams do not calibrate their own equipment, they do not know if there is spurious transmissions. They press the PTT and talk, and don't really care if it is splattering until someone points it out. Listening to the local repeater, I can hardly ever find a Ham who cares even a little about Deviation. While it's true that electronic navigation doesn't replace looking out the window, there are times when you don't want to be transmitting. The best time not to transmit is when the flight deck is doing an ILS with a 20 knot crosswind :-) Steve From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:04:48 1996 From: drranu@holly.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (Emarit Ranu) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Airport/Aircraft Regulations...here's proof of interference Date: 18 Mar 1996 18:41:01 GMT Message-ID: <4ikant$2u0k@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> References: <4hd526$7kp@news.one.net> <00001fef+0000415c@msn.com> <314ADAB5.5BFA@telepath.com> <314DAA8F.1FE5@lamar.colostate.edu> fiz (fiz@lamar.colostate.edu) wrote: There is something to consider here. No matter how good an HT may be, the fault can still be in the aircraft equipment in that there is poor filtering, etc. Point being, the fault may not be in anything BUT the aircraft equipment. Does this mean we should neglect safety since aircraft electronics may not be built with the consideration that there may be other sources of RF on board? No, it means we should recognize that the fault may lie where the problem is created. And still excerise the practice of not using a transmitter/receiver on board for safety concerns. : I don't think it even has to be a malfunctioning radio. Here's a real : story that involved me this past weekend. : I'm a pilot and like to fly gliders. I was in the 'office' of our gliderport : and the office radio was tuned to 123.3 MHz (AM), our air/ground frequency. : I turned my 2 meter HT on and keyed the mike to contact someone on a local : repeater (147.360+). The squelch broke on the aircraft radio. My HT, in good : working order, apparantly interfers with aircraft radios. The aircraft : I fly have navigation receivers in the 112-116 MHz region which my HT could : likely cause to go bonkers. If/when I'm instrument rated, ALL non-aircraft : electronics (receivers and transmitters alike) *WILL* be turned off if I'm f lying : IFR. If the passenger doesn't like it, they can get out, right there, right then. : BTW, I was using a Larsen HT antenna thats a bit, but not much, more than a rubber : duck, its got about a 6 inch coil with a 6 inch whip on top. : Will I take my passengers word their HT is in 'good working order' and 'rumo rs : of interference are no more than like stepping on cracks in the sidewalk'... Hell : no if I'm in a cloud relying on the instruments... : "I'M THE PILOT IN COMMAND "... : ttfn fiz (KG0YG, PP-Glider,ASEL) -- -Emarit, KG0CQ 73's drranu@holly.ColoState.EDU Electrical Engineering, Colorado State Univeristy Packet: KG0CQ@KF0UW.#NECO.USA.NOAM All generalizations are bad. Censorship: ###### _._ __. _____ _._. __._ From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:04:49 1996 From: fiz Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Airport/Aircraft Regulations...here's proof of interference Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 16:30:19 -0800 Message-ID: <314E001B.3B87@lamar.colostate.edu> References: <4hd526$7kp@news.one.net> <00001fef+0000415c@msn.com> <314ADAB5.5BFA@telepath.com> <314DAA8F.1FE5@lamar.colostate.edu> <4ikant$2u0k@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> Emarit Ranu wrote: > > fiz (fiz@lamar.colostate.edu) wrote: > > There is something to consider here. No matter how good an > HT may be, the fault can still be in the aircraft equipment in > that there is poor filtering, etc. Point being, the fault > may not be in anything BUT the aircraft equipment. > Does this mean we should neglect safety since aircraft electronics > may not be built with the consideration that there may be other > sources of RF on board? No, it means we should recognize that > the fault may lie where the problem is created. And still excerise > the practice of not using a transmitter/receiver on board for safety > concerns. > > : I don't think it even has to be a malfunctioning radio. Here's a real > : story that involved me this past weekend. > Absolutely, I meant to mention this as well...The bottom line is my HT and the aircraft radio I mention in my earlier post are simply not compatible at a distance of 10 feet. Maybe theres nothing wrong with either radio. Maybe its just an "intermidiate frequency" coincidence, maybe its a less obvious couplin g. Who knows? Falling from the sky like a sack of wet cement is no place to discover things like this. I'm flying from Denver to St. Louis later this week (TWA). MY radio will be along for the ride, in my luggage (maybe car ryon) with the antenna and battery removed. I'll have plenty of time to play with it in St. Louis, and can listen to traffic at a couple airports from my living ro om whenever the mood strikes anyway. ttfn fiz (KG0YG) From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:04:52 1996 From: wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Amateur Radio Newsline - Melbourne Number Change Coming Up Date: 17 Mar 1996 22:45:50 GMT Message-ID: <4ii4mu$8ag@cc.iu.net> Reply-To: wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) for those of you who get the amateur radio newsline from the Melbourne Florida number sponsored by the Collins Amateur Radio Club in Melbourne (KE4ZAY).. please note that in approximately 8-10 weeks, a new telephone system will be installed at the location where the answering machine is setup. at this time, it is unknown if there will be an analog line made available for the existing mod em pool (where the answering machine is piggybacked on a never-answer modem) since the new switch may require centralization of this function. also, all the telephone numbers at our site will be changing - we'll try to fi nd out the situation ASAP and will post info about the availability of the service an d the phone numbers when we find something out. until then (around mid-may) the (407) 768-7447 line will be running. Bill Newkirk WB9IVR The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group Melbourne, FL duty now for the future of amateur radio Lombardi's 1st Law of Business: Companies succeed in spite of their best effort. If they succeed at all. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:04:53 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: jlowman@netcom.com (Jim Lowman) Subject: Re: Amateur Radio/Internet Message-ID: References: <4i02gn$nfk@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 22:06:33 GMT John N0ISL (johnn0isl@aol.com) wrote: : My question.. Will Internet be the death of Amateur radio, or an : enhancement to the hobby? Let me know what you think. 73 de N0ISL John in : Minnesota..... I tend to feel that people become interested in either, for different reasons and uses. Personally, I have trouble seeing what the interest is in the digital modes. I just bought a book on packet radio yesterday; not that I am that interested, but as treasurer and Field Day chairman for our local club, it is a good way to stay in contact with the other officers and members. But I wonder why so many members of our club are such packet evangelists? The data rates and propagation times are in the stone age, when compared with the Internet. The Net, a d the WWW in particular, has enhanced my enjoyment of ham radio by providing the great web pages, callsign lookup, online pricing, mailing lists and many other areas with current information. But ham radio is the hobby, and the Net is the adjunct. But if a ham on the other side of the country had both Internet and packet access, you can bet that I would use the Net to send a time-critical message to him. 73 de Jim - KF6CR From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:04:54 1996 From: bry2@usa.pipeline.com(Bry AF4K) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Amateur Radio/Internet Date: 16 Mar 1996 13:03:34 GMT Message-ID: <4iee76$f1s@news1.h1.usa.pipeline.com> References: <4i02gn$nfk@newsbf02.news.aol.com> On Mar 10, 1996 21:17:59 in article , 'johnn0isl@aol.com (John N0ISL)' wrote: >There has been much discussion about the slow rate of growth of amateur >radio. One of the more interesting theories is that those that would be >hams are instead becoming avid netters. Here is an anecdote to >consider.... > >Today I put a spot out for A61AD on the DX cluster, As I usually do I >listened for a while to see if anyone I knew would break the pile up and >get the A61 in the log. One of the members of my DX club got through to >Saeed and during that QSO I could hear the call to prayer from the mosque >that is about 100 meters from the open window in Saeed's shack. Is this a >unique experience for hams or are there similar experiences for netters. Didn't anyone tell you that he runs a TAPE PLAYER in the background with that stuff? -- Bry in Gaithersburg, MD near DC Bry2@usa.pipeline.com.us Keep in touch! From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:04:56 1996 From: Gary Stone Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Amateur Radio/Internet Date: 12 Mar 1996 23:35:01 GMT Message-ID: <4i51n5$1uc@venus.texoma.com> References: <4i02gn$nfk@newsbf02.news.aol.com> jlowman@netcom.com (Jim Lowman) wrote: >John N0ISL (johnn0isl@aol.com) wrote: > >: My question.. Will Internet be the death of Amateur radio, or an >: enhancement to the hobby? Let me know what you think. 73 de N0ISL John in >: Minnesota..... > >I tend to feel that people become interested in either, for different >reasons and uses. > >Personally, I have trouble seeing what the interest is in the digital modes. >I just bought a book on packet radio yesterday; not that I am that >interested, but as treasurer and Field Day chairman for our local club, it >is a good way to stay in contact with the other officers and members. But I >wonder why so many members of our club are such packet evangelists? The >data rates and propagation times are in the stone age, when compared with >the Internet. > >The Net, a d the WWW in particular, has enhanced my enjoyment of ham radio >by providing the great web pages, callsign lookup, online pricing, mailing >lists and many other areas with current information. But ham radio is the >hobby, and the Net is the adjunct. > >But if a ham on the other side of the country had both Internet and packet >access, you can bet that I would use the Net to send a time-critical message >to him. > >73 de Jim - KF6CR Greetings from Texas, I have been a ham for about 8 years or so. I have mostly concentrated on HF, with DXCC, WAS, and WAZ. I have been thrilled with 'twisting the dials' as long as I can remember. However, the internet has a lot of promise for me. After very little activity on the ham bands for awhile (I was on IRC, and I-Phone a lot) I thought I would give the ol' 20 meter band a try. Within a few minutes I was interupted with carriers, (after I was using the freq for several minutes), 2 w's started a QSO with each other right on top of myself and the station I was in QSO with - they were 59 ++ so I know they could hear me. I could not even carry on a conversation because of the above and I moved freqs only to experience the same thing again. I know this is not always the case, but it seems to me it is more and more the case. I have been told that I can't use DX nets for DX (my true love) because 'no REAL Dx'er uses nets.' The 14.195 language on a major DX'pedition is almost unbearable to me (and the rude ones seem to be the stateside ops). Every few seconds someone is screaming 'who is on' 'where they listening' and the 14.195 policeman is another thing altogether. It seems ham radio has gotten 'different' than what I remember when I started (only 8 years ago). I suppose the internet has its problems too, but so far I have found a lot of friendly people. (There are the flamers too!). Bottom line for me is that the intrique of radio will always be there for me, but the internet has very interesting possibilities. I hope common courtesy becomes more common on the ham bands. Thats my .02 worth, 73 de N5PHT -- /\__/\ Gary and Karen Stone (Gary N5PHT) 0 0 E-Mail: garystone@texoma.com @ or karenstone@texoma.com (_/\_) Http://home.texoma.com/personal/garystone ~~ From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:04:57 1996 From: kd1hz@anomaly.ideamation.com (Michael P. Deignan) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Amateur Radio/Internet Date: 17 Mar 1996 20:00:55 -0500 Message-ID: <4iick7$elh@anomaly.ideamation.com> References: <4i02gn$nfk@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <4i51n5$1uc@venus.texoma.com> In article <4i51n5$1uc@venus.texoma.com>, Gary Stone wrote: >Within a few minutes I was interupted with carriers, (after >I was using the freq for several minutes), 2 w's started a QSO with each >other right on top of myself and the station I was in QSO with - they >were 59 ++ so I know they could hear me. With all due respect, just because two stations were "59++" at your end doesn't mean that they "could hear" you. I can't count the number of stations that I've worked where I was hearing them "59" and my signal to them was anywhere from a 5-3 to a 5-7. MD -- -- -- "I have more guns than I need, and less guns than I want." -- Phil Graam -- -- If you don't like my opinions, that's just too damn bad. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:04:58 1996 From: johnn0isl@aol.com (John N0ISL) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Amateur Radio/Internet Date: 15 Mar 1996 21:04:38 -0500 Message-ID: <4id7jm$p89@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <31499E95.1D7C@telepath.com> Reply-To: johnn0isl@aol.com (John N0ISL) >Subject: Re: Amateur Radio/Internet >From: Steve Sampson >Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 10:45:09 -0600 >Message-ID: <31499E95.1D7C@telepath.com Steve Replies to my Interent questions with some good points of his own: >We're in a period of transition. Radio, which was VERY popular to most >Hams in their youth, is being replaced by satellite and wire-line links. >While radio will always have a cult, there will never be the population >of the 50's and 60's. Very True, I remember in the 1950's (I give away my age) when everyone in the Hood knew the resident ham, They got christmas greetings and birthday messages via Ham radio. >If you analyze what goes on in the Ham bands, you find that for the most >part it allows a group of people to communicate with each other, who have >common interests. Listening through the 75 meter and 40 meter bands at >arious times will show that most are appliance operators. The facade of >Hams building their own equipment is relegated to the QRP Morse Code bands. I work in the local ham store, I spend a lot of time working with new hams who range a lot in age in setting up digital stations, Computer control and satelitte stations. Believe me, Integrating a 386, an ST-1, NOVA, the Yaesu Rotor, An ICOM 820 and all the amps, preamps and etc is building a station. I have yet to have a ham who finaly hears their first satelitte engineering beacon coming from space, at a place his computer predicted whe he said it would arrive not sound excited. So what if your Internet connection get through to Prince or Rush.. Somebody had to, and what was the skill involved.. (unless you wrote a program that ties up all the lines into your switch so only your call gets through) >It's merely a nostalgia thing anymore. You can communicate much easier >via satellites and wireline, with several orders of magnitude increase in >through-put. The sad thing about Ham radio, is that the current generation >is composed mostly of "me" people. Screw the rules, screw my neighbor, I >want that QSL card. Screw everyone, me, me, me... Plus, they want someone >else to build and maintain it. I really hope this isn't true. I have no evidence to refute it... Sad >If you show a 13 year old a cell-phone and a talkie, he/she will pick the >cell phone 99% of the time. It's not that he/she doesn't appreciate Ham >radio, it's just that they can communicate with more of who they know. Show a 13 year old Packet, gateways and FM Its the Cellphone that gets ignored There is so much more to the world than 2 meter repeaters.... >The current generation of Hams do not tolerate teens on repeaters. In almost >every case they make them unwelcome. Being a Ham mentor is a thing of the >past. This we could do something about.. Become a mentor. Get on the ARRL resource list for uour area.. Run a session for teens, by teens at your next hamfest. Time for me to get off the soapbox. Thanks Steve, I enjoyed reading your views... 73 and CUL de N0ISL Jopn John Douglas, N0ISL AX.25 N0ISL@KZ7I.#MSP.MN.USA.NOAM I'm in Minnesota only because I must be somewhere! From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:04:59 1996 From: ns@laban.uu.se (Nils) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Amateur Radio/Internet Date: 13 Mar 1996 06:56:13 GMT Message-ID: <4i5rid$2468@columba.udac.uu.se> References: <4i02gn$nfk@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, Reply-To: ns@laban.uu.se In article , jlowman@netcom.com (Jim Lowman) wri tes: >John N0ISL (johnn0isl@aol.com) wrote: > >: My question.. Will Internet be the death of Amateur radio, or an >: enhancement to the hobby? Let me know what you think. 73 de N0ISL John in >: Minnesota..... > >I tend to feel that people become interested in either, for different >reasons and uses. > Both is interesting. But HF conditions are related to nature (the ionosphere) and thereby becomes quite a different thing, for one thing its inpredictability, which gives it another thrilling dimension. Internet gives fast and secure information from a lot of various sources. And, perhaps all QSL cards will be send through Internet in the future. Nils From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:00 1996 From: Steve Sampson Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Amateur Radio/Internet Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 10:45:09 -0600 Message-ID: <31499E95.1D7C@telepath.com> References: <4i02gn$nfk@newsbf02.news.aol.com> John N0ISL wrote: > My question.. Will Internet be the death of Amateur radio, or an > enhancement to the hobby? Let me know what you think. We're in a period of transition. Radio, which was VERY popular to most Hams in their youth, is being replaced by satellite and wire-line links. While radio will always have a cult, there will never be the population of the 50's and 60's. If you analyze what goes on in the Ham bands, you find that for the most part it allows a group of people to communicate with each other, who have common interests. Listening through the 75 meter and 40 meter bands at various times will show that most are appliance operators. The facade of Hams building their own equipment is relegated to the QRP Morse Code bands. It's merely a nostalgia thing anymore. You can communicate much easier via satellites and wireline, with several orders of magnitude increase in through-put. The sad thing about Ham radio, is that the current generation is composed mostly of "me" people. Screw the rules, screw my neighbor, I want that QSL card. Screw everyone, me, me, me... Plus, they want someone else to build and maintain it. If you show a 13 year old a cell-phone and a talkie, he/she will pick the cell phone 99% of the time. It's not that he/she doesn't appreciate Ham radio, it's just that they can communicate with more of who they know. The current generation of Hams do not tolerate teens on repeaters. In almost every case they make them unwelcome. Being a Ham mentor is a thing of the past. FWIW Steve, N5OWK From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:01 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: Amateur Radio/Internet Message-ID: <1996Mar14.180000.28011@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: <4i02gn$nfk@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 18:00:00 GMT In article jlowman@netcom.com (Jim Lowman) writ es: >John N0ISL (johnn0isl@aol.com) wrote: > >: My question.. Will Internet be the death of Amateur radio, or an >: enhancement to the hobby? Let me know what you think. 73 de N0ISL John in >: Minnesota..... > >I tend to feel that people become interested in either, for different >reasons and uses. > >Personally, I have trouble seeing what the interest is in the digital modes. >I just bought a book on packet radio yesterday; not that I am that >interested, but as treasurer and Field Day chairman for our local club, it >is a good way to stay in contact with the other officers and members. But I >wonder why so many members of our club are such packet evangelists? The >data rates and propagation times are in the stone age, when compared with >the Internet. Well, yes, if you're using stone age equipment. But not everyone has switched 56 telco lines into their house, and a 56 kb packet link is pretty snappy. Still, the internet uses T3 (and above) in places, and few amateurs have gone to that sort of speed yet. The more important reason for amateur excitement about packet is that the network design is under the amateur's control, and not under the control of some corporate provider. Thus the amateur is free to tinker with the network, learning and experimenting in ways that are impossible with an internet connection. Then there's the whole field of RF encoding and modulation techniques that the amateur can explore, none of which are available to him using a dialup to a internet service provider. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:03 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Amateur Radio/Internet Message-ID: <1996Mar14.172957.116031@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> From: Bill Date: 14 Mar 96 17:29:55 CST References: <4i02gn$nfk@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <4i51n5$1uc@venus.texoma.com> If you think ham radio is different now, after starting into it only 8 years ago, you should interact with it from my point of view. I started in 1968! Seems we have spawned a whole new breed of inconsiderate, uncouth jerks! Those of you who fit this description, I'm talking to you! If you try to ruin it for everyone else, then you are just ruining it for yourself! Sort of like tailgaters and other assorted "traffic jerks", of which, BTW, we are seeing more than our fair share these days. By being inconsiderate, you just make things worse for everyone including yourself. For this radio thing to work out, can't we all practice some manners? 73s (I hope!) Bill Worthington AA4FM/0 Eudora, Kansas, USA From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:04 1996 From: "Philip Singley, Jr." Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: ANTIQUE AMATEUR RADIO EQUIPMENT Date: 16 Mar 1996 13:35:47 GMT Message-ID: <4ieg3j$70n@axe.netdoor.com> To: news:rec.radio.amateur.misc Looking for a source for antique amateur radio equipment. Any help appreciated. 73 Phil - fmr K5FSP From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:04 1996 From: dnorris@k7no.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Anxiously waiting Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 01:00:04 GMT Message-ID: <4iq2iu$h79@news.syspac.com> It has been a few weeks since I sat here and read the daily postings berating Bert, K1 OOF. What happened to them? Has Bart, K2OFF not harpooned anyone lately. Come on fellas..(and ladies)... I miss the action. Let's get Bird, K1ouf. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:05 1996 From: armond@delphi.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Arlb013 question pool Date: Wed, 13 Mar 96 01:50:29 -0500 Message-ID: References: <826556975.AA05634@hamlink.mn.org> <1996Mar12.153818.15758@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Gary Coffman writes: >the 800 pound gorilla in that regard, with a bit under 20% of >amateurs being at least "subscription" members. You say under 20% of the amateurs (ARRL). That may be true regarding total care less, etc., the ARRL represents then at least half of the ACTIVE amateurs . And probably the MOST active. The ARRL percentage is about the same as the percentage in other industrialized nations. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:06 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: Arlb013 question pool Message-ID: <1996Mar14.180139.28116@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: <826556975.AA05634@hamlink.mn.org> <1996Mar12.153818.15758@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 18:01:39 GMT In article armond@delphi.com writes: >Gary Coffman writes: > >>the 800 pound gorilla in that regard, with a bit under 20% of >>amateurs being at least "subscription" members. > >You say under 20% of the amateurs (ARRL). That may be true regarding total >care less, etc., the ARRL represents then at least half of the ACTIVE amateur s. >And probably the MOST active. The ARRL percentage is about the same as the >percentage in other industrialized nations. Do you have any evidence of that, or is it just wishful thinking? Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:07 1996 From: w1aw@arrl.org Newsgroups: rec.radio.info,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: ARLB016 NY Section changes Date: 14 Mar 1996 14:45:23 -0500 Message-ID: <$arlb016.1996@arrl.org> SB QST @ ARL $ARLB016 ARLB016 NY Section changes ZCZC AG95 QST de W1AW ARRL Bulletin 16 ARLB016 From ARRL Headquarters Newington CT March 14, 1996 To all radio amateurs SB QST ARL ARLB016 ARLB016 NY Section changes The ARRL Executive Committee has voted unanimously to transfer Herkimer and Otsego Counties of New York from the Northern New York Section to the Western New York Section, effective April 1, 1996. The decision was based on the results of a canvass of affected members which clearly favored the return of those counties to the Western New York Section. NNNN /EX From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:08 1996 From: w1aw@arrl.org Newsgroups: rec.radio.info,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: ARLP011 Propagation de KT7H Date: 15 Mar 1996 17:00:51 -0500 Message-ID: <$arlp011.1996@arrl.org> SB PROP @ ARL $ARLP011 ARLP011 Propagation de KT7H ZCZC AP32 QST de W1AW Propagation Forecast Bulletin 11 ARLP011 From Tad Cook, KT7H Seattle, WA March 15, 1996 To all radio amateurs SB PROP ARL ARLP011 ARLP011 Propagation de KT7H Solar flux and sunspot numbers were about the same last week as the week previous. March 11 was quite disturbed, with the K index as high as 6 and an A index of 28 for the day. Conditions are expected to become unsettled again through March 17, and again on March 22 and 23 and April 6 and 7. Expect solar flux values to continue to drift between 70 and 75 here at the bottom of the sunspot cycle. The latest projection from the NOAA Space Environment Service Center shows the sunspot number bottoming out between April and June of this year, and the solar flux reaching minimum between December of this year and February of 1997. For the solar flux, this is a bit sooner than any previously forecast. Two years out look for average flux values about 20 points higher than they are now, perhaps in the mid to high nineties. Sunspot Numbers for March 7 through 13 were 0, 0, 0, 0, 18, 27 and 24, with a mean of 9.9. 10.7 cm flux was 67.8, 69.8, 67.5, 69.1, 71.8, 73.2 and 71.3, with a mean of 70.1. The path projections for this week are from the center of the U.S. to Western Europe, Southern Africa, South America, South Pacific and Japan. To Western Europe look for 80 meters to open from 0030z to 0700z, 40 meters from 2330z to 0700z and 30 meters around 2100z. 20 meters looks good from 1430z to 2000z, and 17 meters around 1800z. To Southern Africa expect 80 to open from 0100z to 0400z, 40 from 0030z to 0430z, 30 from 2300z to 0230z, 20 from 2000z to 2300z, 17 from 1700z to 1930z and 15 from 1800z to 1900z. To South America check 80 from 0100z to 1000z, 40 from 0000z to 1030z, 30 from 2300z to 1030z with a weak period around 0900z, 20 from 2000z to 0200z, 17 from 1430z to 0100z and 15 from 1600z to 2230z. To South Pacific 80 should open from 0600z to 1300z, 40 from 0500z to 1400z, 30 from 0400z to 1430z, 20 around 1700z to 1830z and 0130z to 0330z, 17 from 1730z to 0100z and 15 from 1800z to 2300z. To Japan check 80 from 0900z to 1300z, 40 from 0830z to 1400z, 30 from 1330z to 1530z and again around 0700z, 20 from 2100z to 0130z and 17 from 2200z to 0000z. NNNN /EX From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:09 1996 From: Michael Tracy Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: ARRL Code Practice on 2 meters Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 11:46:03 -0800 Message-ID: <3150607B.3517@arrl.org> References: <4int53$c43@news.one.net> djmd@one.net wrote: > > I have a question. > > I have an FM HT and live in cincinnati, OH. Is there any way I can > listen to ARRL code practice on it? Do I need a SSB rig or am I just > too far away from W1AW? Hello from HQ! Unfortunately, you are out of luck, unless you encounter a really rare tropospheric duct. At 200 watts output, W1AW covers most of CT on 147.555, but that's about the limit of it. Best Regards, Michael Tracy, KC1SX, ARRL Technical Information Services From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:11 1996 From: wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: ARRL in FAVOR of no-code? Date: 19 Mar 1996 03:49:01 GMT Message-ID: <4ilard$59r@cc.iu.net> References: <4ik94t$32q@agate.berkeley.edu> Reply-To: wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) In <4ik94t$32q@agate.berkeley.edu>, kennish@kabuki.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (Ken A. N ishimura) writes: >OK, here's a clip from the NYT -- of particular interest >is the last paragraph -- Steve Mendelsohn is VP of ARRL. >I, of course, am staying out of this fight :-) > ==Ken >----------------------------------------------------------- fair amount of errors here too...but overall not too bad of an article. one problem with the idea that the network will replace radio is that the network costs money to be connected, radio has just the equipment costs. and the arrl did come out with their own limited no code proposal - wasn't the one the fcc picked up but they had one.. and we've had a code-free ham ticket for 5+ years in the US and the sky hasn't fallen yet... Bill Newkirk WB9IVR The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group Melbourne, FL duty now for the future of amateur radio Lombardi's 1st Law of Business: Companies succeed in spite of their best effort. If they succeed at all. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:12 1996 From: jwkelley@e4e.oac.uci.edu (James W. KELLEY) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: ARRL in FAVOR of no-code? Date: 19 Mar 1996 19:30:27 GMT Message-ID: <4in20j$5ql@news.service.uci.edu> References: <4ik94t$32q@agate.berkeley.edu> In article <4ik94t$32q@agate.berkeley.edu>, Ken A. Nishimura wrote: >OK, here's a clip from the NYT -- of particular interest >is the last paragraph -- Steve Mendelsohn is VP of ARRL. Yes, it is interesting. Notice he makes a fairly safe statement though. Another way of reading it is that he believes there is a possibility that the code requirement will be dropped by 1999. Notice also the tone of the article, and how amateur radio is portrayed. I find this interesting as well. Mostly historical perspective, but not showing much relevance to the here and now. I wonder if this is how most people out there perceive amateur radio? I actually found the second to the last paragraph more interesting - and distressing. He describes the Amateur Radio Relay League as "quaint", and asks the what purpose do radio frequencies serve, in the same sentence as "what use is Morse code". There are certainly other ways of looking at this, but one thing is for certain; amateur radio will likely not persevere in it's present form for long if the perception by the general public is that we are a just quaint little group who wants to perform historical reenactments of an archaic communications mode, while taking up a huge piece of valuable spectrum. We had better take a hard look at what some of the most successful Washington DC groups have done to protect their interests. The National Association of Broadcasters might be a good archetype. Look what the NRA has done to increase their power - they've increased their numbers. We need more folks on our side - more people who know what amateur radio is about. Maybe the time for a written-only license is just about here. Amateur radio isn't for everybody, but maybe we need to make it appeal to more people than it does now. Perhaps we need to get rid of this tape on-the-glasses/pocket protector image we have somehow. What other images do ham radio operators conjure up? Huge towers in the back yard; old guys who never come out of their house and disrupt everybody's TV. These are not the kinds of things that endear us to the general public. Now I know that isn't REAL ham radio. The people are great - it's a great community with an enormous variety of talent and interests. And on average, I think we're a pretty smart bunch of guys and gals who enjoy the outdoors and group activities, as well as late nights and rainy Saturdays by the radio. It's a tinkerer's hobby - for people who like to build things, it's a social outlet for people who just like to communicate with others, and it's a service to the public. I believe the amateur spectrum IS a "National Park". If there were no preservationists, or no greater public good served by the National Park System, we would have no such system. The amateur RF spectrum is a kind of natural resource that is not expendable, and which must be managed. It must be preserved so that it can continue to be enjoyed in perpetuity by the people of this country. It must not be sold to the highest bidder for commercial enterprise, just as the National Parks should not be sold. If we continue to be perceived in the way exemplified by this Times article, we need to work on our public image. 73 Jim KE6JPO >``The real issue,'' counters another ham, objecting to easier licensing >requirements, ``is the lowering of standards.'' Where has the Internet >left ham radio? >But this can now seem as quaint as the idea of a ``radio relay league.'' >What use is Morse code and what purpose do radio frequencies serve >when e-mail and chat rooms now attract even ham radio operators? > >In 1991, in an effort to increase interest in ham radio, there was an >easing of licensing requirements: it is now possible to get a beginning >license without any knowledge of Morse code. Mendelsohn believes >that by 1999, the code may be eliminated as a requirement even for >the most advanced level. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:13 1996 From: VUBS79A@prodigy.com (Drew Durigan) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: ARRL in FAVOR of no-code? Date: 20 Mar 1996 03:56:51 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <4invm3$1aj0@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com> References: <4ik94t$32q@agate.berkeley.edu> <4in20j$5ql@news.service.uci.edu> > What other images >do ham radio operators conjure up? Huge towers in the back yard; old >guys who never come out of their house and disrupt everybody's TV. How about old guys who insist on demonstrating knowledge of an 1800's communications technology (Morse Code) in order to receive an amateur license with full privileges in 1996? Doesn't make sense to me, either. -Drew in Sunny Central Florida- KF4DDM From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:14 1996 From: adell@planet.net ( Steve - KF2TI) Landing, NJ Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: ARRL in FAVOR of no-code? Date: 21 Mar 1996 09:38:44 GMT Message-ID: <4ir834$9dt@jupiter.planet.net> References: <4invm3$1aj0@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com> > VUBS79A@prodigy.com (Drew Durigan) writes: > > What other images > >do ham radio operators conjure up? Huge towers in the back yard; old > >guys who never come out of their house and disrupt everybody's TV. > > How about old guys who insist on demonstrating knowledge of an 1800's > communications technology (Morse Code) in order to receive an amateur > license with full privileges in 1996? > > Doesn't make sense to me, either. > > > -Drew in Sunny Central Florida- > KF4DDM > > >>>> ZZZZZzzzzzzZZZZZZZZ go back to sleep Drew, it's only a dream From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:15 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: bd703@scn.org (SCN User) Subject: Auroral opening on 6 and 2 meters! Message-ID: Reply-To: bd703@scn.org (SCN User) Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 03:39:50 GMT This past Sunday evening there was an apparent auroral opening on 6 and 2 meters between the Puget Sound region of Washington State and prairie provinces of Canada. Eric KB7DQH reported weak reception of a net on 144.22 mhz originating in Alberta (?). This occured about 7:30 pm PST. Did anyone else have any contacts during the period of activity? The Boulder K index was 5 to 6 during the event. Kerwin -- ***************************************************************************** * They know who you are... bd703@scn.org * They know where you live... * And there's no doubt about it! From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:16 1996 From: sco@atl.mindspring.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Bermuda Ham Activity Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 23:42:29 GMT Message-ID: <4ii8e9$1ld@firebrick.mindspring.com> Reply-To: sco@atl.mindspring.com I am considering a trip to Bermuda. I am a US ham. Can I operate in Bermuda? If so how, what limitations? I want to operate 2m and maybe 6m. KE4IKT From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:16 1996 From: gfoley@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Gerard Foley) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Bermuda Ham Activity Date: 19 Mar 1996 09:42:30 -0500 Message-ID: <4imh4m$5vj@acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us> References: <4ii8e9$1ld@firebrick.mindspring.com> sco@atl.mindspring.com wrote: : I am considering a trip to Bermuda. I am a US ham. Can I operate in : Bermuda? If so how, what limitations? : I want to operate 2m and maybe 6m. : KE4IKT Write to Government of Bermuda, Department of Telecommunications, P.O.Box HM 101 Hamilton HM AX Bermuda Enclose a copy of your license and a statement of when you will be in Bermuda and where you can be reached when there. It's free. If you don't do it before you are in Hamilton, look them up in the phone book, go with your license and they will fix you up while you wait. Have a good trip, and give my 73's to VP9ID Gerry K8EF/VP9 From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:18 1996 From: homingin@aol.com (Homingin) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Championship Foxhunt in Australia this summer Date: 14 Mar 1996 09:38:30 -0500 Message-ID: <4i9b16$dv6@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: homingin@aol.com (Homingin) Planning a trip down under this summer? Here's your chance to take part in a world-class foxhunt on your trip. The IARU Region 3 Amateur Radio Direction Finding (ARDF) championships will be held in Townsville, Australia from July 15 to 20, 1996. Townsville is on the eastern coast of Queensland, about 1000 miles north of Sydney. Separate contests on separate days will be staged on two meters and ten meters. Each will be an all-on-foot event with five foxes on a multi-kilometer course under IARU rules. Hunters from Australia, Japan, China, Korea, New Zealand, Bulgaria, and Kazakh will be competing, and perhaps from other countries, too. I am working with IARU Region 2 officials to assemble a team to represent North America (USA, Canada, and Mexico) at this event. If you are interested in participating, please contact me immediately. I will put you on a list to receive further information. Please pass this information to other T-hunters in your area. Time is of essence, as travel arrangements must be begun shortly. Joe Moell K0OV PO Box 2508 Fullerton, CA 92633 E-mail: Homingin@aol.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:19 1996 From: jthompso@nermal.santarosa.edu (John Thompson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Computer power supply as HT Power supply?? Date: 15 Mar 1996 04:21:06 GMT Message-ID: <4iar7i$ff4@floyd.santarosa.edu> Hi, I recently dismantled an old 286 computer. I saved the power supply, and am wondering if there is any way that it can be used to power a HT? I have a Yasue Ft-530 that can handle up to 16 volts of power. If you could help me on this or could refer me to some information, please e-mail me. Thanks, John ______________________________________________________________________________ _ |John Thompson | jthompso@santarosa.edu | http://www.santarosa.edu/~jthompso | |KE6RMC | | ke6rmc@kd6kwm.#nocal.ca.usa.noam | ______________________________________________________________________________ _ From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:20 1996 From: johnn0isl@aol.com (John N0ISL) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Contest style QSO's... Date: 14 Mar 1996 00:08:23 -0500 Message-ID: <4i89k7$5v4@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: johnn0isl@aol.com (John N0ISL) Are you tired of the " 59 tu " kind of QSO'S... I really like to spend a few minutes and get to know hams on the air, The DX'er the better.. It takes only a couple of questions to get a real QSO going.. Here are some of my favorites: Is it difficult to get a license in your country? If I came to your city, what should I see? Teach me the phrase " Thank You" in your language... What do you do? I am suprised that this queston is almost never asked... Have you been to the USA, Minnesota? I'd appreciate any ideas you might have... 73 de N0ISL John Douglas, N0ISL AX.25 N0ISL@KZ7I.#MSP.MN.USA.NOAM I'm in Minnesota only because I must be somewhere! From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:21 1996 From: janalme@oslonett.no (Jan Almedal) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Contest style QSO's... Date: 14 Mar 1996 22:54:43 +0100 Message-ID: References: <4i89k7$5v4@newsbf02.news.aol.com> In article <4i89k7$5v4@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, johnn0isl@aol.com (John N0ISL) wrote: >Are you tired of the " 59 tu " kind of QSO'S... I really like to spend a >few minutes and get to know hams on the air, The DX'er the better.. It >takes only a couple of questions to get a real QSO going.. Here are some >of my favorites: > >Is it difficult to get a license in your country? Some think it is. 12 wpm code for class A license. >If I came to your city, what should I see? What's your interests? >Teach me the phrase " Thank You" in your language... Takk. >Have you been to the USA, Minnesota? Yes/No. Three times to the US, but not to Mn except changing plane at the twin city airport twice. > >I'd appreciate any ideas you might have... 73 de N0ISL > For contests and DX, I like the contest style QSO's! Haven't we worked? For other, 'regular' QSO's I agree with you and also practise it. I often work operators who have either been to (Oslo) Norway, or live in a place in US I ha ve visited and it sometimes end up in a really long conversation. Everyting at it 's time! Best 73 de Jan / LA9HW - - - Contest Calendar: http://www.sn.no/~janalme/hammain.html From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:22 1996 From: jagon@lander.es (Jose Antonio Gonzalez) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: CQ magazine electronic index? Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 21:13:47 GMT Message-ID: <31456bbf.12701021@lince.lander.es> Reply-To: jagon@lander.es Hello! I have read in somewhere that there is an electronic index for CQ, any ideat about this?. Thanks in advance, 73 -- _________________________________________________________________________ Jose Antonio Gonzalez Lorenzo -- jagon@lander.es -- Amateur Radio: EA2BSN ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:22 1996 From: br00595@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu (Wayne Green) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: CW is the BEST Date: 19 Mar 1996 18:04:01 GMT Message-ID: <4imsuh$s49@bingnet1.cc.binghamton.edu> I dont really care what you no-code techs or disability waiver no-code extras think about code. The CW bands are a world of well mannered people. It has an inherent entrance requirement (you HAVE to know code to be there). It is a wonderful world which many of you complaining wont ever know. Stay on FM or SSB, PLEASE! WG From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:24 1996 From: myers@West.Sun.COM (Dana Myers) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: CW is the BEST Date: 19 Mar 1996 19:51:32 GMT Message-ID: <4in384$m5s@abyss.West.Sun.COM> References: <4imsuh$s49@bingnet1.cc.binghamton.edu> In article <4imsuh$s49@bingnet1.cc.binghamton.edu>, Wayne Green wrote: >I dont really care what you no-code techs or disability waiver no-code >extras think about code. The CW bands are a world of well mannered >people. It has an inherent entrance requirement (you HAVE to know >code to be there). It is a wonderful world which many of you complaining >wont ever know. Stay on FM or SSB, PLEASE! Nice flame troll, Wayne. It is ironic that you elected to post this to rec.radio.amateur.misc, when rec.radio.amateur.policy is clearly the appropriate forum. Maybe the CW bands are full of well-mannered people, but I'll also assert that well-mannered people don't start out a note with "I dont really what you no-code techs or disability waiver no-code extras think about code". Please note the Followup-To: line. -- * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are * * (310) 348-6043 | mine and do not necessarily * * Dana.Myers@West.Sun.Com | reflect those of my employer * From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:25 1996 From: danelson@use.usit.net (Douglas Nelson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: CW is the BEST Date: 19 Mar 1996 23:39:07 GMT Message-ID: <4ingir$loq@news.usit.net> References: <4imsuh$s49@bingnet1.cc.binghamton.edu> <4in384$m5s@abyss.West.Sun.COM> Dana Myers (myers@West.Sun.COM) wrote: : In article <4imsuh$s49@bingnet1.cc.binghamton.edu>, : Wayne Green wrote: : >I dont really care what you no-code techs or disability waiver no-code : >extras think about code. The CW bands are a world of well mannered : >people. It has an inherent entrance requirement (you HAVE to know : >code to be there). It is a wonderful world which many of you complaining : >wont ever know. Stay on FM or SSB, PLEASE! : : Nice flame troll, Wayne. It is ironic that you elected to post this : to rec.radio.amateur.misc, when rec.radio.amateur.policy is clearly : the appropriate forum. Maybe the CW bands are full of well-mannered : people, but I'll also assert that well-mannered people don't start : out a note with "I dont really what you no-code techs or disability : waiver no-code extras think about code". : : Please note the Followup-To: line. : : -- : * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are * : * (310) 348-6043 | mine and do not necessarily * : * Dana.Myers@West.Sun.Com | reflect those of my employer * From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:26 1996 From: danelson@use.usit.net (Douglas Nelson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: CW is the BEST Date: 19 Mar 1996 23:48:22 GMT Message-ID: <4inh46$loq@news.usit.net> References: <4imsuh$s49@bingnet1.cc.binghamton.edu> <4in384$m5s@abyss.West.Sun.COM> Dana Myers (myers@West.Sun.COM) wrote: : In article <4imsuh$s49@bingnet1.cc.binghamton.edu>, : Wayne Green wrote: : >I dont really care what you no-code techs or disability waiver no-code : >extras think about code. The CW bands are a world of well mannered : >people. It has an inherent entrance requirement (you HAVE to know : >code to be there). It is a wonderful world which many of you complaining : >wont ever know. Stay on FM or SSB, PLEASE! : : Nice flame troll, Wayne. It is ironic that you elected to post this : to rec.radio.amateur.misc, when rec.radio.amateur.policy is clearly : the appropriate forum. Maybe the CW bands are full of well-mannered : people, but I'll also assert that well-mannered people don't start : out a note with "I dont really what you no-code techs or disability : waiver no-code extras think about code". : : Please note the Followup-To: line. : : -- : * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are * : * (310) 348-6043 | mine and do not necessarily * : * Dana.Myers@West.Sun.Com | reflect those of my employer * A gentleman is never _unintentionally_ offensive. Besides, he didn't say that _he_ was a gentlman...he said that CW ops were! I agree with that. Doug Nelson K4JGW From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:27 1996 From: vfiscus@mcn.net (Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: CW is the BEST Date: Thu, 21 Mar 96 01:15:29 GMT Message-ID: <4iqali$ofa@news.mcn.net> References: <4imsuh$s49@bingnet1.cc.binghamton.edu> In article <4imsuh$s49@bingnet1.cc.binghamton.edu>, br00595@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu (Wayne Green) wrote: >I dont really care what you no-code techs or disability waiver no-code >extras think about code. The CW bands are a world of well mannered >people. It has an inherent entrance requirement (you HAVE to know >code to be there). It is a wonderful world which many of you complaining >wont ever know. Stay on FM or SSB, PLEASE! > > >WG > Amen, Brother! 73 de KB7ADL Catch ya on Code. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:28 1996 From: ard12@eng.cam.ac.uk (A.R. Duell) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur Subject: Re: Does the test involve any practical work? Date: 20 Mar 1996 22:19:48 GMT Message-ID: <4iq0a4$jba@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> References: <4iossi$s3a@ccuh.wlv.ac.uk> <4ip1mv$qko@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> <3150503D.5B58@rsvl.unisys.com> Edward Stafford writes: >A.R. Duell wrote: >snip >> >> AFAIK there's no practical in the Radio Amateur Exam in the UK. There is >> (I think) in the novice test, but not for the full thing. IMHO this is >> wrong.... > If you think it is wrong why did you write it? It's perfectly obvious what I meant. I beleive that there is no practical test as part of the RAE in the UK, but that there is one in the novice test. I also think that there should be a practical test as part of _any_ radio amateur exam. > Are you trying to say that you disagree? No, I don't disagree with my own statement. I do disagree with the policy of no practical tests. >What are you doing at Cambridge? Are you making a delivery? As it happens I'm on the staff in Engineering, doing digital electronic design. >Are there no longer any literacy requirements for entrance? Not as far as I know :-) >> -tony >> ard12@eng.cam.ac.uk >> The gates in my computer are AND,OR and NOT, not Bill >I've always wanted a NOT gate. Then go out and buy a 7404. You'll have 6 of them then. >Edward Stafford AA0QG -- -tony ard12@eng.cam.ac.uk The gates in my computer are AND,OR and NOT, not Bill From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:29 1996 From: grhosler@mmm.com (Gary Hosler - KN0Z) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: DX refector down? Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 14:41:09 GMT Message-ID: <4imhs9$k6b@dawn.mmm.com> References: <4iilfa$v4e@news.linknet.net> n5ejs@linknet.net wrote: >Anyone know if the DX reflector is down or having problems? Traffic >seems to be very lite to my POP server from it. >de N5EJS >Russ Haven't seen anything here from the reflector since late last week. I looked at Lynden's web page to see if there was anyting posted regarding a problem, but no dice. Guess we'll just have to wait for word from VE7TCP. Opinions expressed herein are my own and may not represent those of 3M. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:30 1996 From: K5ESW@nando.net (Paul Ferguson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: DX refector down? Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 12:59:36 GMT Message-ID: <4imb67$5rf@castle.nando.net> References: <4iilfa$v4e@news.linknet.net> n5ejs@linknet.net wrote: >Anyone know if the DX reflector is down or having problems? Traffic >seems to be very lite to my POP server from it. I am getting about 10 - 20 messages per day. I stopped getting traffic a few weeks ago because my Internet Provider had some e-mail problems and bounced some e-mail. When this happens many reflectors (list servers) will delete your subscription. I re-subscribed and started getting reflector e-mail. 73, Paul Ferguson K5ESW@nando.net From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:31 1996 From: n5ejs@linknet.net Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: DX refector down? Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 03:19:22 GMT Message-ID: <4iilfa$v4e@news.linknet.net> Reply-To: n5ejs@linknet.net Anyone know if the DX reflector is down or having problems? Traffic seems to be very lite to my POP server from it. de N5EJS Russ From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:32 1996 From: eagle28@ix.netcom.com (Jerry) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: E-Mail REVEAL? Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 03:54:56 GMT Message-ID: <314e2fb0.713201@nntp.ix.netcom.com> References: <9603182316.AA14257@slic.com> On 18 Mar 96 23:23:11 GMT, roger@winthrop.slic.COM (Roger Cole) wrote: >Greetings....anyone out there know how I can E-Mail the folks at REVEAL with a >technical problem? I know they have a web page but didn't see anyplace to >leave a message. Thanks....Roger > Short of anone having an email address just try and use "postmaster@" in front of the URL for the webpage. Not much help, I know, but I try. Jerry -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAy/+7gcAAAEEANJOJGMc/kWwJ08pj+d+1JuvIkAUvPko/jIuAY4/NRRZWI2h CQ/jI5YbbP/AkpIM664Iq/bX0fmLOlAcBiuITt6zwRcSObtBApx/A1UxbncFNILm P43NMsVNirTmaWbzbVbO3y1tIlJDosxQm0XCIQzMeB8wH664KrI3wJ84Y/ldAAUR tChHZXJhbGQgQi4gUm9zZW5ncmVlbiA8RUFHTEUyODYxQGFvbC5jb20+ =FEJY -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:33 1996 Message-ID: <31505513.6ADE@uvsg.com> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 12:57:23 -0600 From: Paul Reedy Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc To: Roger Cole Subject: Re: E-Mail REVEAL? References: <9603182316.AA14257@slic.com> Roger Cole wrote: > > Greetings....anyone out there know how I can E-Mail the folks at REVEAL with a > technical problem? I know they have a web page but didn't see anyplace to > leave a message. Thanks....Roger Reveal was bought out by Creative Labs, try them. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:34 1996 From: "S. Sampson" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Easy Method To Clean Up The Bands Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 10:33:49 -0600 Message-ID: <314C3EED.58F3@telepath.com> References: <4icjm2$afu@crash.microserve.net> WB3U wrote: > > The issue of whether CW tests serve as a filter to exclude undesirable > entrants has been a subject of no small debate. However, only HF SSB > seems to attract delinquent operators in such large numbers. They are delinquent because they have no supervision, or organization. The best idea would be to have the FCC issue all licenses to a club, and the club will issue them to individuals. When the club gets complaints about poor operators, they could legally revoke the license. > Therefore, I propose that General Class and above be given all HF > privelages, and that CW be abolished as a prerequisite to same. I > further propose that all HF SSB, AM, FM and other means of > radiotelephony operation be required to be by means of homebrew > transmitters only. You're dreaming. First of all, the frequencies are available because of a population. Your proposal would cut the population to a few thousand, and lose authorization. The FCC will not allow a small segment of the population to control huge frequency blocks. No matter how technical that population is. My second view, is that AM, FM, SSB, FSK etc be abolished. At no time will an Amateur operate on one frequency for more than 100 ms (milli-seconds). Each band segment should be fully converted to Spread Spectrum. An agreed on protocol for channelization. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:35 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc Message-ID: <33@pplace.win.net> References: <4icjm2$afu@crash.microserve.net><314C3EED.58F3@telepath.com> Reply-To: pw@pplace.win.net (Patrick Wilson) From: pw@pplace.win.net (Patrick Wilson) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 09:50:55 GMT Subject: Re: Easy Method To Clean Up The Bands You're nuts if you think that allowing all modes on all freqs would work, because you think that those using those modes would be kind enough to not interfere with others. Dream on. And, I personally don't trust CLUBS. What gives them more intelligence than a single person? More of them? I doubt it. They exist at the lowest common denominator. Do you really trust them? > >You're dreaming. First of all, the frequencies are available because >of a population. Your proposal would cut the population to a few >thousand, and lose authorization. The FCC will not allow a small >segment of the population to control huge frequency blocks. No matter >how technical that population is. > >My second view, is that AM, FM, SSB, FSK etc be abolished. At no time will >an Amateur operate on one frequency for more than 100 ms (milli-seconds). >Each band segment should be fully converted to Spread Spectrum. An agreed >on protocol for channelization. > From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:36 1996 From: tomcar@newshost.li.net (Tom Carrubba) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: EXAM Lindenhurst, LI March 24 Date: 20 Mar 1996 12:57:07 GMT Message-ID: <4iovb3$oeh@linet06.li.net> Lindenhurst, NY - March 24 Sunday March 24 ARRL VE NORTH LINDENHURST,LI The Great South Bay ARC hosts ARRL amateur radio exams every 4th Sunday at 12 noon. Exams are given from Novice to Extra class. All exams are ARRL/VEC, CW exams are multiple choice w/ full headphones. The examination site is in the ARES/RACES room located in the basement. Access is at the rear of the building via stairs. Ring RED (TOP) buzzer for entry. Location: Babylon Town Hall Emergency Operations Center 200 E. Sunrise Hwy. North Lindenhurst, NY Talk in : 146.685/r 136.5pl Please bring the following: - Photocopy and original of current Amateur Radio License if licensed. - Photocopy and original of CSCE(s) that are current. - two forms of ID, at least one photo ID. - pens or pencils. - Calculator for math problems on exams, no pocket computers are allowed. - 1996 Exam fee is $6.05, please bring exact change. * Novice exams (elements 1A & 2) are free. For addition information you may contact: Tom Carrubba KA2DFO (516) 422-9684 or 422-9594 Walter Wenzel KA2RGI (516) 957-0218 -- From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:37 1996 From: jimwills@ballistic.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: FCC 96-07 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 17:40:20 GMT Message-ID: <4ic2uj$676@news2.realtime.net> From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:38 1996 From: jlkolb@sd.cts.com (John Kolb) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: FCC THREAT TO INTERNET Date: 16 Mar 1996 20:41:33 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <4if91t$8j0@news3.cts.com> References: <4idf5n$13oq@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com> Drew Durigan (VUBS79A@prodigy.com) wrote: : >The FCC is considering a petition, filed March 4, to exercise : >JURISDICTION over the INTERNET and make usage of Internet : >Telephony software ILLEGAL. : Get a clue! The FCC has no jurisdiction over the Internet as it does not : utilize radio frequency spectrum. They cannot "create" jurisdiction over : something that is not within their domain. Sorry, but it's Federal Communications Comission - they pretty much have jurisdiction of all non government communications, including telephone companies. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:39 1996 From: VUBS79A@prodigy.com (Drew Durigan) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: FCC THREAT TO INTERNET Date: 16 Mar 1996 04:13:43 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <4idf5n$13oq@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com> References: >The FCC is considering a petition, filed March 4, to exercise >JURISDICTION over the INTERNET and make usage of Internet >Telephony software ILLEGAL. Get a clue! The FCC has no jurisdiction over the Internet as it does not utilize radio frequency spectrum. They cannot "create" jurisdiction over something that is not within their domain. -Drew in Sunny Central Florida- KF4DDM From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:40 1996 From: gbaron@sparc.isl.net (Gilbert Baron) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: FCC THREAT TO INTERNET Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 15:01:27 GMT Message-ID: <314ad79d.9379807@199.3.25.5> References: <4idf5n$13oq@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com> VUBS79A@prodigy.com (Drew Durigan) wrote: +GDB:>The FCC is considering a petition, filed March 4, to exercise +GDB:>JURISDICTION over the INTERNET and make usage of Internet +GDB:>Telephony software ILLEGAL. +GDB: +GDB:Get a clue! The FCC has no jurisdiction over the Internet as it does not +GDB:utilize radio frequency spectrum. They cannot "create" jurisdiction over +GDB:something that is not within their domain. +GDB: +GDB:-Drew in Sunny Central Florida- +GDB: KF4DDM +GDB: I don't think this can or will happen either. First it is going to be a first amendment issue and second it is not enforceable. You are wrong though, it is within the FCC domain. ANY communications are. The FCC has total control over the telephone system and that includes the parts that go by wire, they have total regulatory control over cable television. No, if this were real it could be a serious threat. I don't know why anyone would bother, ther is not even 1 billionth of 1 percent of the bandwidth available here that the long distance networks have. Internet phone software is absolutely no threat whatsoever to the telephone companies. _ Gil Baron W0MN gbaron@millcomm.com Web http://www.isl.net/~gbaron "Bailar es vivir" pgp2.6 key http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~bal/pks-toplev.html "Cuatro caminos hay en mi vida. Cual de los cuatro sera el mejor" [Posted with Agent .99d. For info, email agent-info@forteinc.com.] From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:41 1996 From: ljackson@kudonet.com (Lee Jackson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: FCC THREAT TO INTERNET Date: 15 Mar 1996 15:26:12 -0800 Message-ID: Check this out... **************************************************************** * GOVERNMENT THREAT TO INTERNET * **************************************************************** The FCC is considering a petition, filed March 4, to exercise JURISDICTION over the INTERNET and make usage of Internet Telephony software ILLEGAL. This is a serious threat to the Internet! The FCC is moving along at an astounding pace. They have already issued a Public Notice for comments, which are due April 8, 1996. After this, they will be "considering" what action to take. The bureaucrats must be stopped NOW, before it is too late! Let your elected representatives know your opinions. for more info...check out the URL: http://www.freetel.com/fcc.htm PLEASE FORWARD THIS TO FRIENDS AND APPROPRIATE NEWS GROUPS *************************************************************** From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:42 1996 From: dnorris@k7no.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: FCC THREAT TO INTERNET Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 16:36:14 GMT Message-ID: <4ih7uk$nfe@news.syspac.com> References: <4idf5n$13oq@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com> VUBS79A@prodigy.com (Drew Durigan) wrote: >>The FCC is considering a petition, filed March 4, to exercise >>JURISDICTION over the INTERNET and make usage of Internet >>Telephony software ILLEGAL. >Get a clue! The FCC has no jurisdiction over the Internet as it does not >utilize radio frequency spectrum. They cannot "create" jurisdiction over >something that is not within their domain. Sorry but the I'net does use RF in comm satellites. In any case, Congress can create a jurisdiction at will, and if enough folks want it, they will get it, and the liberal courts will find the necessary language to uphold it. cdn C. Dean Norris Amateur Radio Station K7NO e-mail to dnorris@k7no.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:44 1996 From: wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: FCC THREAT TO INTERNET Date: 17 Mar 1996 22:53:30 GMT Message-ID: <4ii55a$8ag@cc.iu.net> References: <4idf5n$13oq@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com> <314ad79d.9379807@199.3.25.5> Reply-To: wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) In <314ad79d.9379807@199.3.25.5>, gbaron@sparc.isl.net (Gilbert Baron) writes: >don't know why anyone would bother, ther is not even 1 billionth of 1 >percent of the bandwidth available here that the long distance >networks have. Internet phone software is absolutely no threat >whatsoever to the telephone companies. but it's a threat to the small guys that thought they were going to knock off AT&T, Sprint, MCI, the baby bells, etc. and are looking for a scapegoat for their lack of performance in a crowded and thin-margin environment. they're grasping at straws here -- from a technical standpoint, we're into the same sort of argument that's been brought up time and time again about the prohibition of music on amateur radio -- where you digitize the sound, run it over packet and play it back at the far end. it's probably "too late" in that the big guys already sell video conferencing software tools that run over networked computers...they probably don't mind an effort to restrict competition but they won't let such a silly ruling cut i nto a potentially lucrative market (one of the things on the list for new computer s is to try to get enough computer such that adding video conferencing will be doable with a PC bought this year - yes, i know, everyone else but the intel guys had it first and all that...it's what the boss' boss' boss' boss wants to see.. so who am i to argue?) Bill Newkirk WB9IVR The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group Melbourne, FL duty now for the future of amateur radio Lombardi's 1st Law of Business: Companies succeed in spite of their best effort. If they succeed at all. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:44 1996 From: kd1nr@anomaly.ideamation.com (Tony Pelliccio) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: FCC THREAT TO INTERNET Date: 18 Mar 1996 11:14:20 -0500 Message-ID: <4ik24s$f9f@anomaly.ideamation.com> References: <4idf5n$13oq@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com> In article <4idf5n$13oq@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com>, Drew Durigan wrote: >>The FCC is considering a petition, filed March 4, to exercise >>JURISDICTION over the INTERNET and make usage of Internet >>Telephony software ILLEGAL. > >Get a clue! The FCC has no jurisdiction over the Internet as it does not >utilize radio frequency spectrum. They cannot "create" jurisdiction over >something that is not within their domain. Woops.. get a clue yourself. The FCC does indeed have some jurisdiction over the internet since alot of the traffic goes across common carrier lines. Tony -- == Tony Pelliccio, KD1NR == As offensive as I wanna be. == kd1nr@anomaly.ideamation.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:45 1996 From: jbenson@inmind.com (john d benson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: FCC-Out of Control??? Please Read Date: Thu, 14 Mar 96 00:23:28 GMT Message-ID: <4i7skv$hjl@mujibur.inmind.com> References: <4i34k7$m9@news.internetmci.com> <4i48hk$dvv@crash.microserve.net> >Ridiculous. Yes, it is.... From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:46 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: Forget the Morse Code past? A good idea??? Message-ID: <1996Mar17.154335.11130@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: <4hnk22$kr@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> <1996Mar9.135807.29697@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4i0tal$n0j@news.sas.ab.ca> Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 15:43:35 GMT In article <4i0tal$n0j@news.sas.ab.ca> toyboat@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca () write s: > > To me, mastering the code is a challenge that I welcome. That's fine, and no one is saying you shouldn't have the right to master Morse if you wish, in order to satisfy some personal sense of challenge. > I think it is a skill that binds amateurs together as > a fraternity and not merely as a bunch of technicians. This is where you go astray. The government is not operating a fraternity. The purpose of licensing exams is not to serve as a fraternity initiation. Would you think it proper if to attend a State (tax) supported university you were required to join a fraternity as a condition of attending class? That's the problem you get when you attempt to mix institutional roles. The purpose of amateur exams is to satisfy legitimate government concerns about applicants wishing to operate in the regulated spectrum. Internal amateur social concerns should play no part in that. That brings us to the crucial question, what legitimate government concern does a Morse speed exam address today? At one time, interoperability with life safety services was the concern, but that has become moot with the abandonment of Morse by the life safety services, IE Coast Guard. So what legitimate regulatory purpose continues to exist to require a Morse speed exam? If you can't answer that, then the Morse speed exam should be deleted. It is not legitimate for the government to impose arbitrary requirements for internal amateur social purposes. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:48 1996 From: bry2@usa.pipeline.com(Bry AF4K) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Forget the Morse Code past? A good idea??? Date: 16 Mar 1996 13:28:20 GMT Message-ID: <4ieflk$hf9@news1.h1.usa.pipeline.com> References: <4i7gq2$kjo@news.sas.ab.ca> On Mar 13, 1996 22:04:50 in article , 'toyboat@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca ()' wrote: Hello Shane. Man, you Canadians are intelligent! THIS is simply the BEST argument I have read yet in the 3-4 years I have followed the silly yapping about code vs. no-code etc. here and on FIDO's amateur radio echo. Congratulations on a brilliantly thought out analogy and one of the best appeals for tolerance I have seen. The anti-code loonies can hang up their six guns now! 73 and see you on the air for an enjoyable morse CW rag-chew QSO in the near future! G3XLQ / AF4K >To me all the fighting to avoid learning cw to gain access to HF priveleges >reminds me of a documentary I saw on PBS. It was about a competition >where a man alone sails around the world in a wind-powered vessel, racing >other men alone for the best finishing time. (Also women, almost forgot!) >To complete the competition requires stamina, bravery, luck, and most >importantly knowledge and skill. > >Obviously, the requirement to play the game is that you must use a sailing >vessel only. You must also possess proven sailing skills. > >But why bother? Sailing skills are obsolete. Sailing vessels are >obsolete. Isn't it unfair to bar those who want to enter, using diesel >yachts, from the competition? If you want to enter using a modern diesel >yacht, isn't it unfair and archaic to demand that you must possess >sailing skills? Hell, you're faster. You can beat those antique windships >any day of the week. Ergo, sailing vessels and skills - worthless. > >I think that what is misunderstood is that while some things, like cw, may >be obsolescent in one sense, they are vital and very viable in another. >These skills still have merit and need to be encouraged and protected. >If the morse requirement is removed, a language will be lost. If you >never have to learn it, you will never use it. If you must learn it, >you will then be able to make an enlightened and informed choice. > >In Canada, the morse requirement is only 12 wpm for the advanced >qualification. It gives you full access to HF at full power. The >morse qualification is probably less difficult to attain for some than >grasping the advanced technical theory. For others, with post-secondary >telecommunications or electronics training, the technical exam is easy >to pass, but attaining the 12 wpm code level takes a little effort. > >Maybe that's the problem. The effort. > >Shane > > > > > > > > > -- Bry in Gaithersburg, MD near DC Bry2@usa.pipeline.com.us Keep in touch! From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:49 1996 From: Jim Cummings Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Forget the Morse Code past? A good idea??? Date: 14 Mar 1996 19:45:12 GMT Message-ID: <4i9t08$air@crc-news.doc.ca> References: <4hnk22$kr@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> <1996Mar9.135807.29697@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4i0tal$n0j@news.sas.ab.ca> <4i1ku0$4v8@crc-news.doc.ca> <4i9h1m$hrs@mrnews.mro.dec.com> randolph@est.enet.dec.com (Tom Randolph) wrote: > >In article <4i1ku0$4v8@crc-news.doc.ca>, Jim Cummings writes... >>What is most distressing is that most of the QRP adherents themselves not >>only seem to be content in using CW exclusively for their communications, >>but have little inclination to investigate other modes which would be an >>improvement over CW. > >Jim, we've gone round and round and round on this before. The plain fact is, >many if not most QRP enthusiasts do it for the sheer simplicity of it. There' s >many reasons folks get into QRP, few of them have anything to do with pushing >the state of the art. Cost of equipment, simplicity of equipment, small >size/weight/current drain, low-stress operating, ease of construction and >repair with simple test equipment are a few of the reasons. Having to drag a >computer along puts a MAJOR cramp in most of these! > >A ham friend here at work is getting into QRP now. He wants a small, light, >low-current-drain rig to take on camp-outs. He just wants to have fun and mak e >a few contacts from the family tent. I don't think sending high speed data to >stations in South America that he can't even hear is on the top of his list. >You want to do that, go right ahead, have fun, let us know how you do. We'll >be on 40m CW. > But you are quite right -- each to his own. Far be it from me to discourage or disparage any one who wishes to use Backpack CW QRP. On the other hand, what are QRPers doing in the meantime? I hardly expect that backpack QRP is taking up the majority of their operating time. It makes for quite a novelty, but that hardly justifies the continued dependence on just using CW communications when there are so many other modes that can be used, particularly when the operating eminates at home, rather than in the boonies. For that matter, what is wrong with we QRPers that we lack so much in imagination that digital communications isn't considered on these little adventures -- consider that my clunky little Model 200 does a nifty job with a Kam when backpacking. In contradiction to your point, I don't think that it is so much of a lack of technical capabilities, because they do indeed exist, but one of imagination. It would seem that instead of investigating the possiblities, they are rejected out of hand before they are even tried. >============================================================================= = >Tom Randolph N1OOQ NE-QRP 419 QRP-L 87 ARRL randolph@est.enet.dec.co m >============================================================================= = 73 and live better digitally Jim, VE3XJ From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:51 1996 From: toyboat@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca () Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Forget the Morse Code past? A good idea??? Date: 13 Mar 1996 22:04:50 GMT Message-ID: <4i7gq2$kjo@news.sas.ab.ca> References: <4hnk22$kr@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> <1996Mar9.135807.29697@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4i0tal$n0j@news.sas.ab.ca> <4i1shi$8cd@hubcap.clemson.edu> --I won't include the follow-up messages to my reply. Begging your indulgence however, I will use another analogy. To me all the fighting to avoid learning cw to gain access to HF priveleges reminds me of a documentary I saw on PBS. It was about a competition where a man alone sails around the world in a wind-powered vessel, racing other men alone for the best finishing time. (Also women, almost forgot!) To complete the competition requires stamina, bravery, luck, and most importantly knowledge and skill. Obviously, the requirement to play the game is that you must use a sailing vessel only. You must also possess proven sailing skills. But why bother? Sailing skills are obsolete. Sailing vessels are obsolete. Isn't it unfair to bar those who want to enter, using diesel yachts, from the competition? If you want to enter using a modern diesel yacht, isn't it unfair and archaic to demand that you must possess sailing skills? Hell, you're faster. You can beat those antique windships any day of the week. Ergo, sailing vessels and skills - worthless. I think that what is misunderstood is that while some things, like cw, may be obsolescent in one sense, they are vital and very viable in another. These skills still have merit and need to be encouraged and protected. If the morse requirement is removed, a language will be lost. If you never have to learn it, you will never use it. If you must learn it, you will then be able to make an enlightened and informed choice. In Canada, the morse requirement is only 12 wpm for the advanced qualification. It gives you full access to HF at full power. The morse qualification is probably less difficult to attain for some than grasping the advanced technical theory. For others, with post-secondary telecommunications or electronics training, the technical exam is easy to pass, but attaining the 12 wpm code level takes a little effort. Maybe that's the problem. The effort. Shane From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:52 1996 From: myers@West.Sun.COM (Dana Myers) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Forget the Morse Code past? A good idea??? Date: 14 Mar 1996 00:02:26 GMT Message-ID: <4i7nmi$m70@abyss.West.Sun.COM> References: <4hnk22$kr@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> <4i0tal$n0j@news.sas.ab.ca> <4i1shi$8cd@hubcap.clemson.edu> <4i7gq2$kjo@news.sas.ab.ca> In article <4i7gq2$kjo@news.sas.ab.ca>, wrote: >--I won't include the follow-up messages to my reply. Begging your > indulgence however, I will use another analogy. > > To me all the fighting to avoid learning cw to gain access to HF priveleges > reminds me of a documentary I saw on PBS. This sentence strongly suggests a prejudice - you seem to think that all the fuss over the CW requirement is being made by people that want to avoid learning CW. Believe it or not, there are people that want to eliminate or replace the CW requirements because we think the requirement is no longer of significant value to the licensing process. Look up my callsign and check the license class; you'll see that I have nothing to gain by eliminating the CW requirement. Then, look up Phil Karn (KA9Q), Gary Coffman (KE4ZV), ... ... > Maybe that's the problem. The effort. No, that's demonstrably not the problem. -- * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are * * (310) 348-6043 | mine and do not necessarily * * Dana.Myers@West.Sun.Com | reflect those of my employer * From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:53 1996 From: myers@West.Sun.COM (Dana Myers) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Forget the Morse Code past? A good idea??? Date: 19 Mar 1996 17:43:54 GMT Message-ID: <4imror$k7h@abyss.West.Sun.COM> References: <4hnk22$kr@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> <4i9h1m$hrs@mrnews.mro.dec.com> <1996Mar17.020122.9068@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <314c8ff0.0@news.sisna.com> In article <314c8ff0.0@news.sisna.com>, Jon Van Allen wrote: >It's sad to watch amateur radio kill itself with these >petty arguments whose energy could better be used to save >the hobby from the highest bidder, and it will happen. Don't overlook the point of view that a fixation on the CW requirement may be contributing to putting the amateur frequencies on the auction block. Some folks don't think the discussion is "petty argument" - some folks think it is energy spent saving the _service_ from the highest bidder. Food for thought. >Those of us who work as Radio Officers aboard ships laugh >because you guys just don't get it. I see those who think >that cw is hopelessly outdated, who think those of us who >like using cw never use other advanced modes, all kinds of >ridiculous and irrelevent arguments. Those of use who work in professional data communications laugh because you guys just don't get it ;-). Be careful about suggesting that only the folks that want to remove or replace the CW requirements are guilty of using ridiculous or irrelevant arguments. >You can't argue cw has saved lives. I can give you >countless examples, and yes recent ones like the Achille >Lauro sinking. So what? You can't argue about phone saving lives. While it is probably impossible to count the actual number of heads, I'd speculate that voice communication has saved *far more* lives that CW communication. Before you refute this, consider that public service agencies almost exclusively use FM voice, air traffic control uses AM voice, and cellular telephones are FM voice. If "it saves lives" is a compelling argument for requiring knowledge of a communication mode, then the mode that should be required is voice. ... >So quit the whining, it's giving the FCC and Congress the >nails they are hammering into the ham radio coffin. You >can't hear the pounding? Better quit whining then and >listen and put your efforts into saving it before it gets >buried by the highest bidder. Oops, there's the whining word (sigh). When I hear the whining word, it makes be believe the speaker doesn't have a cerebral argument and must turn to a personally insulting tone. C'mon, you can do better - I hope. Please note the Followup-To: line. -- * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are * * (310) 348-6043 | mine and do not necessarily * * Dana.Myers@West.Sun.Com | reflect those of my employer * From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:54 1996 From: adell@planet.net ( Steve - KF2TI) Landing, NJ Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Forget the Morse Code past? A good idea??? Date: 19 Mar 1996 22:10:54 GMT Message-ID: <4inbde$p2h@jupiter.planet.net> References: <4imror$k7h@abyss.West.Sun.COM> > Don't overlook the point of view that a fixation on the > CW requirement may be contributing to putting the amateur > frequencies on the auction block. Some folks don't think > the discussion is "petty argument" - some folks think it is > energy spent saving the _service_ from the highest bidder. > Food for thought. HUH???? CW and the selling of HF frequencies??? what business in it's right or wrong mind would spend big $$$'s on radio spectrum that acts as finicky as Morris th e cat and behaves as well as a 2 year old. VHF/UHF maybe yes. In that case, CW or the morse code requirements aren't gon na matter one way or another. Let's keep this in perspective. Those who want to eliminate the morse require ments are nothing more than closet DX'ers. no more no less. I can see it now...the olympic winter games video feed transmitted along 75 me ters...what clarity.. what fidelity...NOT KNOW CODE or NO CODE who cares steve - - . . . . . . - - From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:56 1996 From: myers@West.Sun.COM (Dana Myers) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Forget the Morse Code past? A good idea??? Date: 19 Mar 1996 19:40:03 GMT Message-ID: <4in2ij$m1j@abyss.West.Sun.COM> References: <4imud8$s49@bingnet1.cc.binghamton.edu> In article <4imud8$s49@bingnet1.cc.binghamton.edu>, Wayne Green wrote: >Jim Cummings (jcumming@clark.dgim.doc.ca) wrote: >: yonnie@sltrib.com (Jon Van Allen) wrote: > >: >So you ask, what's that got to do with ham radio and cw? >: >Plenty, I won't go backpacking without my HW-9, all the >: >digital modes in the world, ht's and whatever can't call >: >for help when they're out of range. > >: than optimal antennae. Therefore, it is amazing that amateurs would not >: consider using digital techniques which would over come these handicaps. > >like maybe carrying a laptop, a multi-mode controller, and a synthesized >100 watt radio, maybe a 400 AH lead acid battery? >I'll prefer the HW-9 and two wires to rub together to send CW. I suppose you can paint any picture you want to point out the advantages and disadvantages for each communication mode. Suggesting that the only way non-CW digital communications can be done is with "a laptop, a multimode controller, and a synthesized 100 watt radio, maybe a 400AH lead acid battery" is putting a decided spin on the facts. The fact is, a slightly modified HW-9 with a palmtop computer (i.e., an HP 200, the size of a calculator) is closer to the "HW-9 and two wires" scenario. >: One uses what one has at hand, but to refuse to use an available >: and better technique is very questionable. > >but you need to address additional issues such as cost, weight, power >consumption! This is true, but don't automatically jump to the conclusion that the simplest configuration is always the best configuration. The most effective communications take place when one plans ahead, and, when one plans ahead, the selection of equipment and mode is considerably more flexible. You can ask the question "What will work best?" rather than "what will work at all?". Please note the Followup-To: line. -- * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are * * (310) 348-6043 | mine and do not necessarily * * Dana.Myers@West.Sun.Com | reflect those of my employer * From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:57 1996 From: jackl@pinetree.microserve.com (WB3U) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Forget the Morse Code past? A good idea??? Date: Wed, 20 Mar 96 09:50:14 GMT Message-ID: <4iokmc$25j@crash.microserve.net> References: <4imud8$s49@bingnet1.cc.binghamton.edu> <4in2ij$m1j@abyss.West.Sun.COM> myers@West.Sun.COM (Dana Myers) wrote: >The most effective communications take place when one plans ahead, Which is exactly why anyone who doesn't want to learn the code should buy a cell phone instead of taking an Amateur Radio exam. ;) 73, Jack WB3U From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:05:58 1996 From: randolph@est.enet.dec.com (Tom Randolph) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Forget the Morse Code past? A good idea??? Date: 14 MAR 96 10:53:05 Message-ID: <4i9h1m$hrs@mrnews.mro.dec.com> References: <4hnk22$kr@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> <1996Mar9.135807.29697@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4i0tal$n0j@news.sas.ab.ca> <4i1ku0$4v8@crc-news.doc.ca> In article <4i1ku0$4v8@crc-news.doc.ca>, Jim Cummings writes... >What is most distressing is that most of the QRP adherents themselves not >only seem to be content in using CW exclusively for their communications, >but have little inclination to investigate other modes which would be an >improvement over CW. Jim, we've gone round and round and round on this before. The plain fact is, many if not most QRP enthusiasts do it for the sheer simplicity of it. There's many reasons folks get into QRP, few of them have anything to do with pushing the state of the art. Cost of equipment, simplicity of equipment, small size/weight/current drain, low-stress operating, ease of construction and repair with simple test equipment are a few of the reasons. Having to drag a computer along puts a MAJOR cramp in most of these! A ham friend here at work is getting into QRP now. He wants a small, light, low-current-drain rig to take on camp-outs. He just wants to have fun and make a few contacts from the family tent. I don't think sending high speed data to stations in South America that he can't even hear is on the top of his list. You want to do that, go right ahead, have fun, let us know how you do. We'll be on 40m CW. ============================================================================== Tom Randolph N1OOQ NE-QRP 419 QRP-L 87 ARRL randolph@est.enet.dec.com ============================================================================== From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:00 1996 From: br00595@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu (Homebrew) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Forget the Morse Code past? A good idea??? Date: 20 Mar 1996 14:41:29 GMT Message-ID: <4ip5ep$1nj@bingnet1.cc.binghamton.edu> Michael T. Hodgson (REDLIGHT@NANDO.NET) wrote: : jon, I am working diligently to pass my code, having just completed my : novice and technician testing....its tough and something that i have been : putting off for 19 years due to the code..I already have an FCC commercial : license now grandfathered into NABER but come on man....part of the reason : that HAM radio is dying is because of the code..not just because of those This is not true. Amateur radio population is going up. : that are whining about it....I will give you that CW does work undeniably : but for example when I went and took my code there were three VEC testers : and two guys taking the tests...thats all....for three guys to give up : their saturday morning just to get 2 new guys into HAM radio..Heck they : seemed delighted to see people taking the tests... Maybe I should cancel the VE tests I give if there are less test applicants than VE's present. That would go over good. Did it ever occur to you that these guys are volunteering their Saturday mornings to help the overall Amateur Radio Community? You are really missing the point here, buddy! .look thru the hamcall : lists there are tons of folks out there with no more than the tech calls : and compared to 20 years ago when I started listening to the 80-40-20 : bands the airways are clean Know why?? there are few new hams...wonder why? The bands are quiet for the most part due to the lack of sunspot activity. Give a listen during a contest sometime, or perhaps during Field Day. Ever listen to the lower part of 80, 40, 20? There is quite a bit of DX activity going on there. When propagation permits it, there is always a lot of activity! You want to hear dead, listen to the 2 meter SSB and CW segments! (you mean 2 meters is more than FM?!! :-) : Opinions expressed herein are my own and do not in any way : represent those of my employer. or the rest of us! -- - - + + + + + + - - Len (oh, for those that dont know code, that is 73 Len) From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:01 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: yonnie@sltrib.com (Jon Van Allen) Subject: Re: Forget the Morse Code past? A good idea??? References: <4hnk22$kr@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> <1996Mar9.135807.29697@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4i0tal$n0j@news.sas.ab.ca> <4i1ku0$4v8@crc-news.doc.ca> <4i9h1m$hrs@mrnews.mro.dec.com> <1996Mar17.020122.9068@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Date: Sun, 17 Mar 96 23:46:47 GMT Message-ID: <314c8ff0.0@news.sisna.com> It's sad to watch amateur radio kill itself with these petty arguments whose energy could better be used to save the hobby from the highest bidder, and it will happen. Those of us who work as Radio Officers aboard ships laugh because you guys just don't get it. I see those who think that cw is hopelessly outdated, who think those of us who like using cw never use other advanced modes, all kinds of ridiculous and irrelevent arguments. You can't argue cw has saved lives. I can give you countless examples, and yes recent ones like the Achille Lauro sinking. And save me the yiping about the Coast Guard discontinuing it, "Good riddance" is what we said to the coasties, there are plenty of commercial stations that still operate. Ships still use code boys and girls, for good reason. Listen to 500 khz, it's alive and well. When those digital modes and computers fail without ac power, good old charlie whiskey works EVERY time. I use the latest digital modes guys, including some you don't know about like a proprietary clover mode for HF telex. I can program in C with the best of 'em, so save me the high tech jargon as reasons to kill cw. So you ask, what's that got to do with ham radio and cw? Plenty, I won't go backpacking without my HW-9, all the digital modes in the world, ht's and whatever can't call for help when they're out of range. So quit the whining, it's giving the FCC and Congress the nails they are hammering into the ham radio coffin. You can't hear the pounding? Better quit whining then and listen and put your efforts into saving it before it gets buried by the highest bidder. 73, Jon KF7YN From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:01 1996 From: Jim Cummings Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Forget the Morse Code past? A good idea??? Date: 20 Mar 1996 14:33:45 GMT Message-ID: <4ip509$sog@crc-news.doc.ca> References: <4imud8$s49@bingnet1.cc.binghamton.edu> <4in2ij$m1j@abyss.West.Sun.COM> <4iokmc$25j@crash.microserve.net> jackl@pinetree.microserve.com (WB3U) wrote: > myers@West.Sun.COM (Dana Myers) wrote: > >>The most effective communications take place when one plans ahead, > >Which is exactly why anyone who doesn't want to learn the code should >buy a cell phone instead of taking an Amateur Radio exam. ;) > >73, >Jack WB3U > > Why? 73 and live better digitally Jim, VE3XJ From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:03 1996 From: wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Forget the Morse Code past? A good idea??? Date: 21 Mar 1996 03:06:23 GMT Message-ID: <4iqh3f$n5g@cc.iu.net> References: <4hnk22$kr@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> <1996Mar9.135807.29697@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4i0tal$n0j@news.sas.ab.ca> <4i1ku0$4v8@crc-news.doc.ca> <4i9h1m$hrs@mrnews.mro.dec.com> <1996Mar17.020122.9068@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <314c8ff0.0@news.sisna.com> Reply-To: wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) In <314c8ff0.0@news.sisna.com>, yonnie@sltrib.com (Jon Van Allen) writes: >It's sad to watch amateur radio kill itself with these >petty arguments whose energy could better be used to save >the hobby from the highest bidder, and it will happen. that's part of why it was important to get a code free ticket in place when we did. 1991, y'know. >Those of us who work as Radio Officers aboard ships laugh >because you guys just don't get it. I see those who think >that cw is hopelessly outdated, who think those of us who >like using cw never use other advanced modes, all kinds of >ridiculous and irrelevent arguments. well...then why will the martime services be moving everyone to GMDSS in the very near future? >coasties, there are plenty of commercial stations that >still operate. Ships still use code boys and girls, for for now. ships also have satcom and conventional operating modes as well (it's been a couple of years since i was up there, but i don't recall operator s at KHT running code...) >good reason. Listen to 500 khz, it's alive and well. When >those digital modes and computers fail without ac power, >good old charlie whiskey works EVERY time. I use the latest without power? that ac runs the ships radio's regardless of mode... Bill Newkirk WB9IVR The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group Melbourne, FL duty now for the future of amateur radio Lombardi's 1st Law of Business: Companies succeed in spite of their best effort. If they succeed at all. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:03 1996 From: Dave Bremer Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: FR-146 FM Receiver Kit Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 14:20:55 -0600 Message-ID: <314F1727.6CD3@orion.ee.stcloud.msus.edu> My partner and I are using the Ramsey FR-146 2-Meter FM receiver kit to receive data broadcast at a frequency of 155.445 MHz. The data is sent with a 6 second delay between each new message. We are having trouble squelching out the noise during the 6 second delay period. The squelch seems to either cut out nothing or it cuts out everything including the data being broadcast. If anyone has any information regarding this kit or where we could receive help, we would appreciate hearing about it. Please e-mail any comments or suggestions. Thanks. Dave Bremer St. Cloud State University Electrical Engineering bremer@orion.ee.stcloud.msus.edu From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:05 1996 From: wb6siv@cyberg8t.com (Raymond Sarrio) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: FREE Ham Classifides-->http://www.csz.com/sarrio.html Date: 13 Mar 1996 20:28:34 GMT Message-ID: The Raymond Sarrio Company's Ham Radio WWW site is proud to announce a FREE Ham Radio classified advertising page at http://www.csz.com/sarrio.html. This new classified section will include Hams to search for equipement with the help of a search engine--no need to scroll through 100's of listing before you find that special piece of gear. Plus, when you find the gear your interested in, each listing comes with point-and-click e-mail access direct to the Ham that listed the item. 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From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:05 1996 From: rullmanr@aol.com (RULLMANR) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: FS, TEK 7044 Plug-In Power Supply Date: 17 Mar 1996 14:08:38 -0500 Message-ID: <4ihnvm$8km@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: rullmanr@aol.com (RULLMANR) Rare find, not many made. Plug-In power supply cabinet for 4 TEK 7000 Series Plug-In's. Includes 2 1-1/4" X 3" CRT's for readout of knob settings, etc. Bottom cover missing, untested. $325. rec.radio.swap sci.electronics.equipment sci.electronics.misc sci.electronics.design sci electronics.cad sci.electronics.components From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:06 1996 From: Jason Reighard Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: FT 901 DE and phone patch for sale Date: Wed, 13 Mar 96 00:37:51 -0500 Message-ID: For Sale Yaesu FT-901DE HF RIG Optional FM board installed Optional CW filter installed INCLUDES Phone patch SP-901P Runs off 110v AC. Covers: 160, 80, 40, 20, 15, 10 Meters. And RX on WWV (15 MHZ) CW Auto keyer needs repaired, but Straight key can be used $460.00 I can be reached at (614)-537-4875 or via internet mail, reighard@codger.physics.duq.edu From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:07 1996 From: Rick Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: FT530 mods wanted Date: 17 Mar 1996 17:52:41 GMT Message-ID: <4ihjh9$4oe@nadine.teleport.com> References: <4iaff5$3ek@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> To: Mike This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------------------12397229112583 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hello Mike did you find any mods for the FT530, if so could you send me a copy please.....Thank........Rick ---------------------------------12397229112583 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain From: parkin@Eng.Sun.COM (Michael Parkin) Reply-To: parkin@Eng.Sun.COM Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: FT530 mods wanted Date: 15 Mar 1996 01:00:21 GMT Organization: Sun Microcomputer Corporation Message-ID: <4iaff5$3ek@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> Where can I get FT530 mods? Thanks, Mike ---------------------------------12397229112583-- From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:08 1996 From: Rick Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: FT530 mods wanted Date: 17 Mar 1996 17:52:01 GMT Message-ID: <4ihjg1$4oe@nadine.teleport.com> References: <4iaff5$3ek@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> To: Mike Hello Mike did you find any mods for the FT530, if so could you send me a copy please.....Thank........Rick From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:09 1996 From: Rick Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: FT530 mods wanted Date: 17 Mar 1996 17:59:54 GMT Message-ID: <4ihjuq$4oe@nadine.teleport.com> References: <4iaff5$3ek@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> To: Mike Hello Mike did you recieve any replies to your posting ? I just bought a FT530 myself.....If you find any MODS could you pass them on. Thanks...Mike.........Rick. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:10 1996 From: Rick Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: FT530 mods wanted Date: 17 Mar 1996 17:49:38 GMT Message-ID: <4ihjbi$4oe@nadine.teleport.com> References: <4iaff5$3ek@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> To: Mike Did you find any mods for the Ft530 ? If you did would you send me a copy ple ase. Thanks Rick. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:10 1996 From: parkin@Eng.Sun.COM (Michael Parkin) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: FT530 mods wanted Date: 15 Mar 1996 01:00:21 GMT Message-ID: <4iaff5$3ek@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> Reply-To: parkin@Eng.Sun.COM Where can I get FT530 mods? Thanks, Mike From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:11 1996 From: armond@delphi.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: HAARP on Ham Radio & More Show Date: Wed, 13 Mar 96 01:56:48 -0500 Message-ID: References: <4i1fhs$tp@globe.indirect.com> <4i4lls$60e@mgate.arrl.org> Ed Hare writes: >>Support "WOG". Written only General!!! Well, the colleges are giving courses that everyone gets an "A" no matter what. There are track races in which all entered get a blue ribbon.Mightas well let ham radio sink into the ooze too. Hey, let's just give everyone a free radio that gets a license. And a house to put it in. And let's all mov e to Bulgaria. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:12 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew From: scottwh@netcom.com (Walter Scott) Subject: HAL Morse Keyboard ?? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 22:07:59 GMT In 1973, HAL Communications Corp. sold an MKB-1 Morse Keyboard and a KB-ID1 Keyboard Identifier. Does anyone remember these devices? After building them from kits, they worked well. Recently I tried to change the call sign in the Identifier without success. There appears to be a race problem in the design. Does anyone remember these devices? -The problem that makes the Identifier pattern sensitive? -A fix? 73, Scott KI6KW From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:13 1996 From: mcs@crl.com (Nicholas McLarty) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Ham radio at the Olympic Games Date: 19 Mar 1996 21:04:46 -0800 Message-ID: <4io3le$cq3@crl10.crl.com> References: <4im8hl$n9k@a3bsrv.nai.net> <4in2uh$m5n@abyss.West.Sun.COM> Dana Myers (myers@West.Sun.COM) wrote: : Hey, I appreciate this, I really do. I just happen to think that selectivel y : excluding certain kinds of radios, if that is indeed being done, tends : to undermine the validity of this argument. If amateurs are told not : to carry handie-talkies, but non-amateurs are permitted to carry : cellular telephones, I really have to question the "logic" behind : the decision. There's less chance of interference between 150 MHz and 850 MHz than there is between 148 MHz and 150 MHz. I've been in situations where a whole mass of radios, some 800 MHz trunking, some hams, some 150-155 MHz public service, and a few other radios. The most common interference came on the radios operating 140-160 MHz. Of course, some of this may be the radios' receivers, but there tends to be more interference from radios running on closer frequencies. Besides that, cellular phones strangely enough are very narrow-banded. I can get one to start transmitting and not get any interference 100 kHz either side of the actual transmitting frequency. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ NICHOLAS R. McLARTY, C/TSgt, AFJROTC mcs@crl.com Texas 882nd AFJROTC Group: San Antonio, TX Amateur Radio Operator - KC5IUZ Official Emergency Station - South Texas Section, ARRL PGP Fingerprint 64 29 66 2B B4 53 C2 8D 33 73 A7 33 16 78 D1 05 Personal Home Page http://www.crl.com/~mcs TX-882 AFJROTC Web Page Appendix http://sparc2.umeres.maine.edu:5000 From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:15 1996 From: ard12@eng.cam.ac.uk (A.R. Duell) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur Subject: Re: Ham radio in UK Date: 19 Mar 1996 14:45:30 GMT Message-ID: <4imhaa$2ml@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> References: <4imdgl$a0f@ccuh.wlv.ac.uk> sciencepark@ccub.wlv.ac.uk (anonymous) writes: > I'm interested in the radio ham aspect but can anyone tell me the details of > the class1 and class2 test that you have to undertake in order to get > the licence. I've cross-posted this to uk.radio.amateur - the rec.radio.amateur.misc group, while appropriate, is worldwide, and I suspect that the UK-only group may produce a more helpful response. As I understand it, there are 2 classes of UK amateur radio license, not counting the novice licenses, which I know nothing about : Class B: You need to pass a multiple-choice exam. This is currently 2 papers, but will be replaced by a single longer paper fairly soon, I think. The questions cover radio theory, interference and how to eliminate it, operating practices, and the licensing conditions. The class B license allows you to use all modes (I think - there used to be a restriction about morse code, but I think that's been removed) on all amateur radio bands above 50MHz. Class A : You need to pass the same multiple choice exam (or hold a Class B license, I guess) and pass a morse code test. You have to send and receive morse code manually at a set speed and making less than a certain number of mistakes. This license allows you to everything a class B licensee can do _and_ use the HF bands (1.6MHz - 30MHz, I think). A question for others : After the change in the exam, will class B licensees who then pass the morse test be granted a class A license, or will they have to take the new written exam as well ? >Can you also recommend a really good book or source which could tell me about The books that got me through the Radio Amateurs exam were published by the RSGB (Radio Society of Great Britain) - I can't remember the titles, but 'How to pass the RAE' rings some bells. There's also a book of sample questions that's worth going through. The RSGB also produce other more general books on amateur radio. The Radio Communication Handbook and the VHF/UHF handbook are both worth reading, although they're a little out of date (I have nothing against valves, but a few designs using IC-based synthesisers would be nice). Can anyone recomend a book on getting started with operation, though? I've some old PMR stuff that I can get onto 2m or 70cm quite easily, but I'd like to know the correct protocol for using it when I finally get it working. > the various codes and call signs and general protocol involving ham >radio. Is ham radio able to be connected to the internet via computer.? The UK license only allows messages to be passed between licensed amateurs, so you can't (legally) send and receive internet e-mail AFAIK. There's packet radio, but I don't think there are any gateways between it and the internet. >Thanks. -- -tony ard12@eng.cam.ac.uk The gates in my computer are AND,OR and NOT, not Bill From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:16 1996 From: "Anthony R. Gold" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur Subject: Re: Ham radio in UK Date: Tue, 19 Mar 96 15:56:22 GMT Message-ID: <827250982snz@microvst.demon.co.uk> References: <4imdgl$a0f@ccuh.wlv.ac.uk> <4imhaa$2ml@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Reply-To: tgold@microvst.demon.co.uk In article <4imhaa$2ml@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> ard12@eng.cam.ac.uk "A.R. Duell" writes: > The UK license only allows messages to be passed between licensed > amateurs, so you can't (legally) send and receive internet e-mail AFAIK. > There's packet radio, but I don't think there are any gateways between it > and the internet. There are a number of gateways in the USA which allow licensed UK amateurs to send email to packet radio addresses and to receive the packet replies via email. Regards, -- Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM email: tgold@panix.com tgold@microvst.demon.co.uk packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:17 1996 From: sciencepark@ccub.wlv.ac.uk (anonymous) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Ham radio in UK Date: 19 Mar 1996 13:40:37 GMT Message-ID: <4imdgl$a0f@ccuh.wlv.ac.uk> Reply-To: d9462451@ccub.wlv.ac.uk I'm interested in the radio ham aspect but can anyone tell me the details of t he class1 and class2 test that you have to undertake in order to get the licen ce. Can you also recommend a really good book or source which could tell me about the various codes and call signs and general protocol involving ham radio. Is ham radio able to be connected to the internet via computer.? Thanks. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:18 1996 From: jchol@aol.com (JCHol) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,sci.electronics Subject: Re: Ham Radio Online March 11th, 1996 Date: 15 Mar 1996 19:41:11 -0500 Message-ID: <4id2n7$n7c@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <4hvrho$j2g@news.accessone.com> Reply-To: jchol@aol.com (JCHol) I have visited the site twice. Really enjoyed the article about launching wires into trees. Keep up the good work. 73 de John, WA5TWL From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:18 1996 From: braymer@SunBelt.Net Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: HAM RADIO SWAP-FEST IN ALGOOD,TENNESSEE Date: 19 Mar 1996 01:39:36 GMT Message-ID: <4il38o$evv@news1.sunbelt.net> There will be a Ham Radio Swap-Fest April 27,1996 starting at 8:00 AM CST time in the parking lot of the Algood School in Algood,Tennessee. NO CHARGE too setup or enter the swap-fest Everyone Welcome Talkin Frequency is 145.110 -600 for more information send email too Bobby Raymer AD4HL at braymer@sunbelt.net From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:19 1996 From: clark@crl.com (Kevin Clark) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: hamcom interface info Date: 12 Mar 1996 12:55:54 -0800 Message-ID: <4i4ocq$9t0@crl.crl.com> Hi, I'm looking at the hamcom data slicer interface and would like to use it in a program of my own design. Besides the obvious of polling the data out, what other considerations have to be made about setting the com port's i/o lines? I know the op amp is powered by the serial port, so do I have to set the serial port up in any particular way to power the device? Do I have to continually toggle the RTS? Any info would be helpfull, thanx, Kev From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:20 1996 From: rickhz@primenet.com (Rick) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: HamDaze at Arizona Science Center Date: 17 Mar 1996 15:41:02 -0700 Message-ID: <4ii4du$9gm@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Special Event Information HamDaze at Arizona Science Center: The Center for Amateur Radio Learning (C.A .R.L.) will be hosting HamDaze Weekend March 23-24, Several Phoenix area radio club s will be setting up hands-on demonstrations and exhibits. Amateur Television, an HF station and a two way laser communications device will be just some of the attractions at the event. A test session will be available for the No-Code Technician License at 10:00 a.m. on Saturday March 23. KC7LUL will be on the air in the phone portion of the no vice 10 meter band, and general 15 and 20 meter bands. For a certificate send a QSL and 9" x 12" SASE to C.A.R.L. P.O. Box 51048 Phoenix, AZ 85076-1048. Visitors to A SC will be able to make radio contacts under the supervision of licensed volunteer op erators. The Arizona Science Center is located at 147 E. Adams. The hours are Saturday 9 - 5:00pm and Sunday 12 - 5:00. Adults $4.50, Seniors and 4-12 yrs old $3.50, 3yrs and less are free. For details call 561-8405. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:21 1996 From: blaster@winternet.com (Blaster) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: HAMFEST IN SHAKOPEE,MN - sma96.txt [1/1] Date: 19 Mar 1996 21:13:37 GMT Message-ID: <4in821$i11@blackice.winternet.com> The SouthWest Metro Amateur Radio Transmitting Society is pleased to present S MARTSFEST 96 to be held Saturday,April 27 at Canterbury Downs in beautiful Shakopee Minneso ta. Smartsfest 96, Minnesotas most affordable Hamfest features low admission price s,door prizes, numerous club activities, SMARTS CHALLENGE, and absoutely FREE PARKING. One ticket price covers EVERYTHING! Tickets this year are $3 in advance and $5 at the door. Kids under 14 are free .Advance tickets availible at all the useual places ,through select club funct ions or by calling mike N0zxg at 445-0460 Doors open at 8 am and the fest runs to 2 pm For table availibility and prices, contact Tim WD0ENG at 474-9232 or Dave N0TLA at 445-8071 Talk-in or further information is aslo available on the Carver repeater at 147.165 mhz.+ From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:22 1996 From: "Lorelei Lindenaux (SAR)" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: HeathKit HP 24 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 20:25:07 -0500 Message-ID: My dad is looking for: Heathkit HP24 AC Power Supply with or without the HA14 Amplifier. You may call him at 1-813-842-4818. New Port Richey, Florida. Maurice W4NHP Or you may e-mail me direct, and I will have him call you. e-mail lindenau@virtu.sar.usf.edu Thanks, Lorelei From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:23 1996 From: munga@quicklink.com (james weber) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Help Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 20:58:16 GMT Message-ID: <4i6v26$i4q@news.quicklink.com> I am looking to buy my son a radio. A friend has a old Yeasu FT-101ex, and I saw a ad for a FT 840. Which is the better radio and why? Thank you for your time and help. :) From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:24 1996 From: dhatcher@bibbway.bt.co.uk (Darren Hatcher) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur Subject: Help: Ten Tec Argosy schematic/docs Date: 14 Mar 1996 09:51:20 GMT Message-ID: <4i8q6o$57h@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk> Hi All, I've just become an owner of a Ten Tec Argosy and don't have much in the way of documentation for it. I've had no joy net-searching so far, so ... has anyone got a user manual, schematic or modification info to share??? Postage, etc, would be re-embursed. Thanks in advance for any info, Darren Hatcher G0WCW dhatcher@bibbway.bt.co.uk From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:25 1996 From: lenrev@wwa.com (Len Revelle) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur Subject: Re: Help: Ten Tec Argosy schematic/docs Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 01:22:51 GMT Message-ID: <4id5gl$f30@kirin.wwa.com> References: <4i8q6o$57h@pheidippides.axion.bt.co.uk> Ten-Tec probably has manuals, if not they will send a photocopy, at a reasonable cost. I think I only paid a few bucks for a good Argo 509 copy. dhatcher@bibbway.bt.co.uk (Darren Hatcher) wrote: >Hi All, >I've just become an owner of a Ten Tec Argosy and don't have much in the way >of documentation for it. I've had no joy net-searching so far, so ... >has anyone got a user manual, schematic or modification info to share??? >Postage, etc, would be re-embursed. >Thanks in advance for any info, >Darren Hatcher >G0WCW >dhatcher@bibbway.bt.co.uk From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:27 1996 From: Isaac Kohn Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equpiment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew Subject: HF, multiband antenna, etc. for beginner -- PLEASE HELP! Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 20:00:51 -0600 Message-ID: <314CC3D3.347D@vertex.ucls.uchicago.edu> Greetings all, I am new to the world of ham radio (don't even have my license yet), and I'm working on setting up a station. I'm gonna need an antenna to work at least the entire HF range, and maybe thru 2m. I live on the second floor of a 2-flat, and space outside is limited... I've been figuring I'd put up a loop around my ceiling (approx. 12'x12') or on one wall (similar dimensions), use a transmatch, and hope for the best. Maybe someone out there has a better idea... It would be convenient if there were a way I could wire something up in my room or (for lower frequencies) outside my window... It may not be practical to raise anything up above the top of the building -- will this affect propagation in the HF range?? I _may_ be able to find a way to set up a horizontal dipole that is supported a few inches above the edge of the roof, so that obstructions are less of a problem. Anyone have any suggestions?? Also, I will need plans for a versatile, INEXPENSIVE Transmatch. I can probably tolerate somewhat high levels of SWR, if it will reduce design cost. Is it feasible to wire several toroid-core broadband transformers, and switch them in and out appropriately for each band?? I'd like not to have to retune the antenna every time I switch bands, and if I could have a knob that did that it would be quite nice....... PLEASE RESPOND (pref. by E-mail or E-mail+post) IF YOU CAN ANSWER ANY OF MY IGNORANT QUESTIONS!!! Thanks a lot everybody. 73's Isaac Kohn P.S. I actually am doing things in the wrong order, as I haven't built any sort of equipment that would utilize an antenna yet. If anyone has any diagrams/ideas for a receiver, and maybe a transmitter, that I could use for phone (at least AM, SSB would be nice), they would be much appreciated. Receiver might just be antenna, tank circuit shunting unwanted stuff to ground, single-diode detector, and high-gain AF AMP. This is good because I've already built a 1W output AF AMP, and it works great. Xmitter is tough because I only want to use one oscillator, but I want to span entire HF range. Prob. with both is switching components in tuned circuits for different bands.... Help is much appreciated. As you can see I am very unexperienced and am dying to get on the air. Thx again in advance! From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:28 1996 From: srwhite@ibm.net Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.swap Subject: Re: Hr2600 MODS Date: 14 Mar 1996 15:32:41 GMT Message-ID: <4i9e6p$1d72@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> References: <4hnhte$30@ohnasn01.sinet.slb.com> <3145F5B5.5CBC@informix.com> Reply-To: srwhite@ibm.net In <3145F5B5.5CBC@informix.com>, Randall Rhea writes: >Bob Duer wrote: >> >> Need to know if there are freq. mods for the HR2600 just as there is for >> the HR2510. If there is and they are available a copy or location to get t hem >> would be appreciated. >> > >No mods for this rig. There was a company called Chipswitch a few years >ago that >sold a replacement microprocessor. They advertised in the ham mags >under the heading >"give your 2510 and 2600 the same features as the big rigs." I do not >know if they >are still in business. > >-- For the past 2 years I have been compiling what I believe to be one of the lar gest databases of radio mods around... I have written an excellent front end progr am to assist in searching... Every year I offer this collection entitled N2RWE's Amateur Radio Modification Database for sale usually for $15... As of today v4.15 is in beta right now, and the database contains over 600 mod s, and ove 100 service bulletins and it's growing! I have another 150 files to add yet, information will be posted when it's finished in about a month. In the meantime for the one looking for the HR-2600 mods, there are several although I cannot guarantee the accuracy or reliability since I have only tested a few on the equip that I own... Here's one for extended coverage: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- A reliable source recently informed me that the new Uniden HR-2600 10M rig may be modified for "expanded" frequency coverage using the same technique as is done for it's predecessor, the HR-2510. (Pins 34 & 35 of the cpu lifted from ground and tied to vcc/4v via a 10k resistor n the foil side of the pcb) This area of the board is sealed in epoxy and very careful work with a x-acto knife is required or you will lift the traces off of the board along with the epoxy. Freq coverage will be the same as for the 2510. George, WA2RCB ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hope this helps, Steve - N2RWE From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:29 1996 From: Brian Webb <102670.1206@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: de.comm.ham,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: HTX-212 & MFJ-1270C TNC Date: 16 Mar 1996 21:40:52 GMT Message-ID: <4ifch4$3s8$1@mhadg.production.compuserve.com> Several weeks ago I purchased a Radio Shack HTX-212 mobile 2-meter radio. I own an MFJ-1270C TNC. What I'd like to do is hook these two units together so I can operate on packet. Here are some questions: 1. Does anybody sell a pre-made HTX-212 to MFJ-1270C interface cable? 2. If I have to make my own cable, does anybody have a schematic? 3. Where can I buy an extra modular mic plug of the type used on the HTX-212? 4. Have any of you interfaced these rigs and gotten them to work? If so, is there anything that I should know? Regards, Brian Webb, KD6NRP Thousand Oaks, CA From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:31 1996 From: burch@netline.net (Burch Akin) Newsgroups: de.comm.ham,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: HTX-212 & MFJ-1270C TNC Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 19:44:10 GMT Message-ID: <4in2vm$jdh@tesla.netline.net> References: <4ifch4$3s8$1@mhadg.production.compuserve.com> Brian Webb <102670.1206@CompuServe.COM> wrote: >Several weeks ago I purchased a Radio Shack HTX-212 mobile >2-meter radio. I own an MFJ-1270C TNC. What I'd like to do is >hook these two units together so I can operate on packet. >Here are some questions: >1. Does anybody sell a pre-made HTX-212 to MFJ-1270C interface >cable? >2. If I have to make my own cable, does anybody have a schematic? >3. Where can I buy an extra modular mic plug of the type used on >the HTX-212? >4. Have any of you interfaced these rigs and gotten them to work? >If so, is there anything that I should know? >Regards, >Brian Webb, KD6NRP >Thousand Oaks, CA I have the same radio and TNC. I had to make my own cable. If you call MFJ they will mail you a schematic. I think the parts costs under $5. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:31 1996 From: Damien.Vale@airservices.GOV.AU (Damien Vale) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Internet address Radio Amateur Callbook? Date: 15 Mar 96 01:56:00 GMT Message-ID: <01I2D82ODB7A001WMB@mr.airservices.gov.au> Could someone let me know the internet address (if any) of the Radio Amateur Callbook Inc. in NJ USA? Damien VK3CDI From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:32 1996 From: clarke@aztec.asu.edu (JACK CLARKE) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Is there a way to check DX call signs on here...?? Date: 17 Mar 1996 19:58:15 GMT Message-ID: <4ihqsn$bge@news.asu.edu> Buckmaster has the DX callsigns now. http://www.buck.com/cgi-bin/do_hamcall 73, Jack VE3EED/W7 -- From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:33 1996 From: Dave Perkins Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Is there a way to check DX call signs on here...?? Date: 17 Mar 1996 17:45:39 GMT Message-ID: <4ihj44$nh4@news2.cts.com> Is there a site that lets one check DX addresses on the Internet instead of buying another call book...I found one for North America but for DX, that would be great.. Dave From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:34 1996 From: stan@mutadv.com (Stan Huntting) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment Subject: KaWin - New Version! Date: 15 Mar 1996 14:07:15 GMT Message-ID: <4ibtij$1ss@news-2.csn.net> KaWin 6.35 adds support for the Buckmaster Hamcall CDROM and a dozen more new features and improvements. KaWin 6.35 is available for immediate download from the KaWin Home Page. 73, Stan. -- Stan Huntting, KF0IA Email: stan@mutadv.com Fax: 303 444 2314 KaWin home page: http://www.mutadv.com/kawin/ Postal address: 4655 Pleasant Ridge Rd., Boulder, CO 80301-1731, USA From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:35 1996 From: georgie@aztec.asu.edu (GEORGE R. COONEY) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Kenwood Email Date: 19 Mar 1996 01:09:39 GMT Message-ID: <4il1gj$dk@news.asu.edu> Anyone know Kenwood Service Email address? I have their www Http address but not their Email address. I have ICOM's Email address, surely Kenwood has one also. If not, they should. Thanks. -- From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:35 1996 From: Isaac Kohn Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Looking for HF (maybe VHF too) scanner/receiver Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 11:25:51 -0600 Message-ID: <314D9C9F.4FD8@vertex.ucls.uchicago.edu> Hi all. I'm looking for a receiver with as general coverage as possible, pref. 80m-2m or more. Obviously, would have to copy FM as well as SSB and AM. E-mail me at ikohn@vertex.ucls.uchicago.edu and tell me what you have/how much. Price is very important, as budget is tight, so i'd prefer something that's used but working. Thanks a lot. 73's Isaac From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:37 1996 From: bry2@usa.pipeline.com(Bry AF4K) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Low cost CW on 2M? Date: 16 Mar 1996 13:12:43 GMT Message-ID: <4ieeob$g0f@news1.h1.usa.pipeline.com> References: <4i26fb$7n0@maple.enet.net> On Mar 11, 1996 19:18:22 in article , 'mkrotz@qrz.com (Mark Krotz)' wrote: >>Unless you are in a highly populated area, I think you are going to need a >>very sophisticated station to find anyone to work on 2m cw. By >>sophisticated station, I mean a beam antenna on a high tower and a very >>sensitive receiver. Even then, you will probably find very few stations >>to work unless you try satellite or moonbounce. Sorry Mark I know someone else wriote the above, and of course it is wrong. There are plenty of people on 2m SSB and CW. Most of the CW ops also work SSB, but they know CW is great for weak signal DXing. I have heard many stations on 2m CW and they are not all local by any means. It is common to work morse code CW contacts on 2 meter CW out to 200-400 miles daily for most stations that are well equipped. With a band opening it is not unusual to get 400-800 mile contacts on 2m CW and with moonbounce, satellites etc. the possibilities for CW on 2m are endless! >TS700 or similar. Find a cheap beam, a few elements (make sure you put it >up horizontally polarized). There are more and more all-mode VHF rigs >available, with the IC 706 and all. Tropo openings can be a blast, but I'd >be surprised if there wasn't some local activity. Unless you live in the >sticks where the men are men and the sheep are nervous. If your budget >places the rigs I mentioned out of reach (they're older solid state) then >look for an old Gonset or Heath lunchbox or something. > >Mark KD0DM > > -- Bry in Gaithersburg, MD near DC Bry2@usa.pipeline.com.us Keep in touch! From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:37 1996 From: ronnier@ro.com (Ronnie Richardson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Mods needed for FT2500 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 11:32:23 GMT Message-ID: <4ijign$lhu@news.ro.com> I need mods for Yaesu FT2500 please. Thanks in advance. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:38 1996 From: ronnier@ro.com (Ronnie Richardson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Mods needed for FT2500 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 11:33:23 GMT Message-ID: <4ijiij$lhu@news.ro.com> References: <4ijign$lhu@news.ro.com> ronnier@ro.com (Ronnie Richardson) wrote: >I need mods for Yaesu FT2500 please. Thanks in advance. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:39 1996 From: subbustr@whidbey.net (DAVE M . SCHERTZER) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Mods needed for FT2500 Date: 21 Mar 1996 16:30:38 GMT Message-ID: <4is07e$csl@whidbey.whidbey.com> References: <4ijign$lhu@news.ro.com> Today iz ur lucky day !!! FT2500 MOD (140-174mhz)iz as follows: 1.Remove power + ant. 2.Remove 5 screws holding down top cover. 3.Locate and C U T - " GREEN COLOURED WIRE " (Green wire located btwn jumper pad #8 & ground) 4. Reassemble radio. Note: One report states that: "Jumper #3 may need to be solder jumped. o o xxxxx J2003 backup o batt o | green o | wire o xxxxx J2007 xxxxx J2006 Gud luck plse respond ur results.....dave subbustr@whidbey.net From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:40 1996 From: Carl Estey Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: More to VHF/UHF than repeaters? Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 08:00:23 -0600 Message-ID: <314977F7.24C6@HBC.Honeywell.com> During a qso recently, the idea of preparing a talk about various amateur activities beyond chatting on repeaters came up. The more the concept was discussed, the more I felt compelled to prepare the talk. After several weeks of preparation the 2-hour presentation was developed. It presented the basics of EME, tropo (sporadic E) long-haul communications, meteor scatter, aurora, lightning scatter, ATV, and satellite communications. Mixed in were operating activities like contesting, local special-interest clubs, newsletters and breakfasts. Substantial show and tell was included. The presentation was intended to spark interest with beginners who might otherwise view the limits of amateur radio as what they find on repeaters. The sole interest was to develop the FUN concept of amateur radio ... and that is a message we need to continue to develop and deliver. Amateur radio should be FUN! My question is: has anyone developed a video presentation using the same subject but including actual clips from EME operations, meteor scatter qso's, etc? What needs to be added is actual clips of those modes being used. One picture is worth a 1000 words, right??? I would like to present this same talk to other local clubs, in the hope that it will spark some folks to discovering others aspects of VHF/UHF operations so that they may experience more FUN! Ideas??? 73 Carl -- Carl Estey, Amateur Radio Station WA0CQG Honeywell Inc., Homes and Building Control, MN10-2518, 1885 Douglas Dr., Golden Valley, MN 55422 (612) 954-6922 E-Mail: carl.estey@HBC.Honeywell.com or wa0cqg@wa0cqg-uhf.ampr.org (TCP/IP) From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:41 1996 From: ns@laban.astro.uu.se (Nils) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Morse code debate Date: 20 Mar 1996 15:32:28 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <4ip8ec$2c3u@columba.udac.uu.se> References: <4imhqp$95u@flood.weeg.uiowa.edu> Reply-To: ns@laban.astro.uu.se In article <4imhqp$95u@flood.weeg.uiowa.edu>, sabinw@crpl.cedar-rapids.lib.ia. us (Bill W0IYH) writes: >One thing that bothers me is the kind of derogatory and belittling >rhetoric that is used by those on each side of this debate against the >other side. Agree! I why can't they keep it in the "policy" group? Nils Sjolander Uppsala, Sweden From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:42 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Message-ID: <27@pplace.win.net> References: <4i2bbq$ng3@news-e2a.gnn.com> Reply-To: pw@pplace.win.net (Patrick Wilson) From: pw@pplace.win.net (Patrick Wilson) Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 16:40:31 GMT Subject: Re: Morse Code in Music I agree, one of the best in the series we see here on PBS. I love the Mystery series, and especially the Morse character along with his uncouth (sp) Sgt. (grin). I just wish here were more here to watch. In article , Paul Jessop (pjessop@tdc.dircon.co.uk) writes: >Re: Inspector Morse > >Excellent detective series made here in the UK and set in Oxford. The >theme music does spell out the name of the detective and I recall a radio >interview with the composer (whose name is Barrington Phelong or >something which sounds the same as that) where he described hiding things >in the music, including names of the culprits in morse. > >Morse's name does appear, but not his first name. He is just "Morse". > >The Radio Society of Great Britain were using the theme music as its >"music on hold" on its telephone system. > >Paul, G8KGV > From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:43 1996 From: snyder@scvnet.com (Bill Snyder) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Morse Code in Music Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 19:24:55 GMT Message-ID: <4ihov7$cbg@rocky.scvnet.com> References: <4i2bbq$ng3@news-e2a.gnn.com> BPasternak@gnn.com (Brian Pasternak) wrote: >MORSE CODE in MUSIC There was a record cut in the ‘50s, "CQ Serenade." It was sung by a female vocalist, who applied a fairly pronounced swing to the dits and dahs. They played it ad nauseum around the hamfests, usually as a warm-up leading to the notorious QLF contest. Being in my early teens at the time, I never bothered to note who recorded it. It was probably produced on a vanity label. It was this recording and QLF contests that set amateur radio down the road to ruin. -- 73 -- Bill AA6KC Internet: aa6kc@scvnet.com Packet: AA6KC @ WB6WFH.#SOCA.CA.USA.NOAM Fax: 805-254-2060 From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:45 1996 From: Gareth Edwards Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Morse Code in Music Date: Tue, 19 Mar 96 21:18:30 GMT Message-ID: <827270310snz@darkblue.demon.co.uk> References: <4i2bbq$ng3@news-e2a.gnn.com> <4ihov7$cbg@rocky.scvnet.com> Reply-To: Gareth@darkblue.demon.co.uk In article <4ihov7$cbg@rocky.scvnet.com> snyder@scvnet.com "Bill Snyder" write s: > BPasternak@gnn.com (Brian Pasternak) wrote: > > >MORSE CODE in MUSIC > > > There was a record cut in the 50s, "CQ Serenade." It was sung by a > female vocalist, who applied a fairly pronounced swing to the dits and > dahs. They played it ad nauseum around the hamfests, usually as a > warm-up leading to the notorious QLF contest. Being in my early teens > at the time, I never bothered to note who recorded it. It was > probably produced on a vanity label. It was this recording and QLF > contests that set amateur radio down the road to ruin. > > > -- > 73 -- Bill AA6KC > Internet: aa6kc@scvnet.com > Packet: AA6KC @ WB6WFH.#SOCA.CA.USA.NOAM > Fax: 805-254-2060 > > I didn't see the original post on this subject, but for an example of pretentious guff, see the Rush song 'YYZ' which has the rhythm of the letters of the Toronto airport call at the start. It drives me nuts. Cheers, Gareth. GM7WFT -- I don't want the world; I just want your half. - TMBG ------------------------------------------------------------------ | Gareth Edwards | Gareth@darkblue.demon.co.uk | | Edinburgh, | Home of Edinburgh Beige Cricket Club | | Scotland | PGP public key available on request | ------------------------------------------------------------------ From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:46 1996 From: Mike Gathergood Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Morse Code in Music Date: Thu, 14 Mar 96 08:57:46 GMT Message-ID: <826793866snz@g4kfk.demon.co.uk> References: <4i2bbq$ng3@news-e2a.gnn.com> Reply-To: Mike@g4kfk.demon.co.uk In article <4i2bbq$ng3@news-e2a.gnn.com> BPasternak@gnn.com "Brian Pasternak" writes: > MORSE CODE in MUSIC > Craig, VK3CRA, informed me of a TV show called > "INSPECTOR MORSE". Craig has never seen the show but, > from info gathered, states that the inspector's name is > never given in the show. It is alleged, however, > to be contained in Morse Code which is played as part of > the show's introductory music. Indeed - and a good programme too. The part of Inspector Morse is played by John Thaw (better known as Regan from "The Sweeney") with his sidekick played by Kevin Whateley. Morse is a Detective in the English University town of Oxford. The theme music does indeed contain the letters M-O-R-S-E as a background melody. 73 Mike * QRV around 0800 and 1800 most weekdays on GB3HL * G4KFK * (Hillingdon 433.075/434.675) and also 51.83 MHz * From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:47 1996 From: jbaltz@news.cs.columbia.edu (Jerry B. Altzman) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: MOTIVATING HAMS TO UPGRADE Date: 20 Mar 1996 01:07:25 -0500 Message-ID: <4io7at$jmv@tune.cs.columbia.edu> References: <9603191807.AA29342@pti.prysm.net> In article <9603191807.AA29342@pti.prysm.net>, Frank C. Morris, N5YZM wrote: >We are trying to find ways to motivate hams to upgrade. Why? > We have already >lost one local club to the No-Tech Techs. What do you mean, "lost". Do you mean, "no one there gives a damn about HF"? >There is no doubt that you can't make anyone upgrade due to the fact that >you have to have the desire and willingness to put the time into upgrading. Meaning, learning Morse Code, of course. >It is one of the things in life that you have to earn and it is not given to >you. But the benefits are far greater than the time required to upgrade. Like being a VE? HF access? Would you believe that not everyone is interested in those things? >Can anyone share with us what they have done to motivate hams to upgrade? Lead by example, I suppose. Please respect the Followup-to: line. >73's DE Frank, N5YZM //jbaltz -- jerry b. altzman Entropy just isn't what it used to be +1 212 650 5617 jbaltz@cs.columbia.edu jbaltz@scisun.sci.ccny.cuny.edu KE3ML From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:48 1996 From: wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: MOTIVATING HAMS TO UPGRADE Date: 21 Mar 1996 03:11:43 GMT Message-ID: <4iqhdf$n5g@cc.iu.net> References: <9603191807.AA29342@pti.prysm.net> Reply-To: wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) In <9603191807.AA29342@pti.prysm.net>, fmorris@prysm.NET (Frank C. Morris, N5Y ZM) writes: >We are trying to find ways to motivate hams to upgrade. We have already >lost one local club to the No-Tech Techs. that's code free technicians, 'dere, frank. there's a lot of no-tech extras to o. and what do you think about waivers? >Can anyone share with us what they have done to motivate hams to upgrade? 1) offer a regular testing session. 2) hold some events that would encourage operation of the needed skills and technical knowledge. (you know, my employer now makes one radio product with no alignment needed or possible? it may be possible that a great deal of future products will be j ust that way as well..) Bill Newkirk WB9IVR The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group Melbourne, FL duty now for the future of amateur radio Lombardi's 1st Law of Business: Companies succeed in spite of their best effort. If they succeed at all. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:50 1996 From: Will Flor Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: MOTIVATING HAMS TO UPGRADE Date: 20 Mar 1996 17:37:22 GMT Message-ID: <4ipfoi$45l@news.inc.net> References: <9603191807.AA29342@pti.prysm.net> fmorris@prysm.NET (Frank C. Morris, N5YZM) wrote: >We are trying to find ways to motivate hams to upgrade. >Can anyone share with us what they have done to motivate hams to upgrade? > Show the hams in your club(s) what the benefits of upgrading are, and they' ll make the decision for themselves as to whether or not they want to put the time int o learning the code. Do you have a club station? Show no-code techs how to ope rate it, both CW and SSB. Do you have 6m? Show no-code techs the fun of working DX SS B during a band opening, and let them do it, too - they have the license. Talk about y our positive experiences working DX, homebrewing a QRP rig, etc. Prepare yourself for the fact that a good percentage won't want to upgrade anyway - after all, many hams have lots of fun on 2m FM and never have the desire to do anything else - ham radio is for these people, too; it's just a different hobby for the m than for you. 73 de Will KB9JTT From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:51 1996 From: jsadur@intercall.com (Jim Sadur) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: My new ham Web site Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 16:27:45 GMT Message-ID: <4ik3iu$a2v@news1.intercall.com> Reply-To: jsadur@intercall.com Stop by my new ham radio web site. I have built an extensive WWW link page for all aspects of amateur radio. the URL is: www.intercall.com/~jsadur/n2rbj.htm 73, Jim, N2RBJ From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:52 1996 From: cummings@stingray.net (Matthew Cummings) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: N6MBR's TBOX Date: 14 Mar 1996 18:18:44 GMT Message-ID: <4i9nu4$c66@stingray.net> Does anybody know of where I can get the object code for this project so I can burn a new eprom to replace my aged version 1.08? I can't catch Ron and the old bbs numbers don't work anymore. -- Internet: cummings@stingray.net From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:53 1996 From: jeffj@crl.com (Jeff Jones) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Need help with the Microsats please! Date: 14 Mar 1996 17:13:32 -0800 Message-ID: <4iag7t$o93@crl.crl.com> A fellow ham friend of mine who I am helping out is building a boat and will be sailing out to sea in the near future. He would like to recieve email via the microsats while he is out to sea. I haven't been able to find any information on how exactly the microsats are used. I looked in the in the ARRL sat book but it is no help. So could someone answer a couple of questions for me? 1. Can you send email via them? 2. Would omnidirection antennas work decently? 3. What would be the best one's to use? Thanks for any and all help! Jeff Jones AB6MB From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:54 1996 From: denoid95x@aol.com (DeNoid95X) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Need info on VHF contest. Date: 14 Mar 1996 14:57:52 -0500 Message-ID: <4i9to0$k11@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: denoid95x@aol.com (DeNoid95X) I am wondering when the VHF contest will be and the hours. I am going to operate on 6M exclusively. First timer but know the ripes of contesting to know whats up. Hopefully I can break into the top 5! I would like to know what some favorite spots are and other handy hints. I already have the antenna built, just need some guidance! Thanks for any responses! I guess I will find the time within my scheudule to go where ever it takes to do good. N9RLR/2 From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:55 1996 From: georgie@aztec.asu.edu (GEORGE R. COONEY) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Need Manual Kwd. 7930 Date: 16 Mar 1996 21:00:06 GMT Message-ID: <4ifa4m$7of@news.asu.edu> Anyone have a service manual for a Kenwood 7930 that I could get a copy of? I'll pay all the copy and ship costs of course. Thanks. -- From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:56 1996 From: cj@hth.com (Christer Johansson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave Subject: Re: Need Radio Clock Info. Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 17:17:52 GMT Message-ID: <4i1nb6$j24@prometheus.algonet.se> References: <4hl1tj$90r$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> Reply-To: cj@hth.com Hi Parker, Parker Kent <100654.646@CompuServe.COM> wrote: >I need any information I can get in >reguards to the radio signals sent from Germany >across Europe giving time information for >Radio Clocks. Point your Web browser to the following URL... http://www.tu-bs.de/rz/sysadmin/dienste/ntp/clock.txt.html Hope this helps, /Christer -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- * High Tech Horizon - Christer Johansson - E-mail: cj@hth.com * -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- * Vi saljer Parallax, Inc. BASIC Stamp's produkter i Skandinavien * >> World Wide Web On-Line Catalog - http://www.hth.com << -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:57 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: leduc@atla3.agfa.com (Dave Leduc) Subject: Need to borrow WWII radio Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 13:11:00 GMT I am looking for a WWII vintage radio for use as a prop in a high school play in Billerica Ma. The Play is "South Pacific". The radio is for a scene at a WWII military airfield. I only need to use it for a week or so and it doesn't need to work. I can pick up and deliver it in the Boston area. If you can help out these kids. Please contact Lou Schoenthal Sr. at 508-667-2811. Thanks.. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:58 1996 From: sco@sco-inc.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: New Awards Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 05:02:57 GMT Message-ID: <4io3v3$k17@firebrick.mindspring.com> Reply-To: sco@sco-inc.com BUT I am in the process of creating some NEW VHF/UHF Awards especially for Techs (and others). Techs and Tech +s will be in separate Award Class from all other hams. Modes will include Packet, ATV, FM, SSB, CW, and Mixed Modes. Fixed, Portable and Mixed Locations, All bands over 50mhz. There will be Quarterly and Annual Awards by National Level, Region (0-9), and State levels. Awards will be for: States worked, Counties worked, Grids worked, Countries worked, and Satelittes worked. May be more if I think of them. ATV and FM QSOs can be thru repeaters. Packet can be any way you want. Each QSO will count 1 point (I think at this time). There will be low and high power divisions too. EVERYONE who participates and enters WILL receive a Certificate of Participation. The top 5 or 10 in each award category will receive a certificate too. What do you think about this idea? KE4IKT From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:06:59 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Message-ID: <34@pplace.win.net> References: <4io3v3$k17@firebrick.mindspring.com> Reply-To: pw@pplace.win.net (Patrick Wilson) From: pw@pplace.win.net (Patrick Wilson) Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 22:12:36 GMT Subject: Re: New Awards Who gives a shit. If they were interested in contacts other than repeaters, they would upgrade. In article <4io3v3$k17@firebrick.mindspring.com>, sco@sco-inc.com (sco@sco-inc.com) writes: >BUT I am in the process of creating some NEW VHF/UHF Awards >especially for Techs (and others). > >Techs and Tech +s will be in separate Award Class from all other hams. > > Modes will include Packet, ATV, FM, SSB, CW, and Mixed Modes. > > Fixed, Portable and Mixed Locations, > > All bands over 50mhz. > >There will be Quarterly and Annual Awards by National Level, Region >(0-9), and State levels. > >Awards will be for: States worked, Counties worked, Grids worked, >Countries worked, and Satelittes worked. > > May be more if I think of them. > >ATV and FM QSOs can be thru repeaters. > > Packet can be any way you want. > >Each QSO will count 1 point (I think at this time). > >There will be low and high power divisions too. > >EVERYONE who participates and enters WILL receive a Certificate of >Participation. >The top 5 or 10 in each award category will receive a certificate too. > > >What do you think about this idea? > > KE4IKT > > > From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:00 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: New Ham needs HT/Base 2M Advice Message-ID: <1996Mar14.143752.26707@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: <4i1hha$jjd@news.asu.edu> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 14:37:52 GMT In article <4i1hha$jjd@news.asu.edu> clarke@aztec.asu.edu (JACK CLARKE) writes : > >I wouldn't want to slight Gary, KE4ZV. That is a very complete >analysis. Perhaps Gary is a little more critical than some of us. > >The only thing I have is Yaesu hand-held. I use it in my motorhome >with a mag-mount antenna. I have a J-pole in the apartment which >works just fine. I can hit repeaters 20 and 30 miles away -- >actually one is about 80 miles away. > >I guess it depends on your pocket book. If you can afford it, do >everything Gary says. I have a limited budget. In my opinion, >I would sooner get the best hand-held I can and leave it at that. > >With the way things are advancing these days in technology, your >radio is out-dated in a couple of years. So, then I just have to >throw away ONE radio. > >73, & welcome to the hobby, > >Jack VE3EED/W7 >-- In defense of my advice, Jack, I'd note that I was offering a range of options. I did not mean to imply that one would have to exercise them all. I think that, unless foot mobile operation is a high priority, a person on a budget should not buy a HT as their only rig. If only one rig can be afforded, then I'd recomend a mobile rig with a quick disconnect mounting bracket. Add a 12 volt power supply in the house, and you have your operations covered with a good rig for little if any more than you'd spend for a HT and the accessories you'd need to make it function in multiple roles. I also don't think that things are advancing much these days with respect to 2m FM rigs. A 5 year old radio that you can buy for $125 is likely to be able to communicate as effectively as the newest whizz bang Gameboy. Most of the "advances" are in things not directly related to amateur radio usage (wide out of band coverage, scanning, etc). Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:01 1996 From: randolph@est.enet.dec.com (Tom Randolph) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: New Ham needs HT/Base 2M Advice Date: 14 MAR 96 11:33:28 Message-ID: <4i9i3r$hrs@mrnews.mro.dec.com> References: <314328d7.21968608@news.tiac.net> <1996Mar11.153501.10669@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> In article <1996Mar11.153501.10669@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gar y Coffman) writes... >None of the HTs work well with external antennas without a filter. Radio Shack HTX-202. Had one hooked up to a groundplane on the chimney for many months. Never heard a peep out of it, never had a desense problem. We live 2 miles from the biggest commercial/public service site in the area. One of the FM stations used to be audible on our telephone. We also have a scanner on an outdoor antenna. We get the National Weather Service broadcast all over the 2m band on that... ============================================================================== Tom Randolph N1OOQ NE-QRP 419 QRP-L 87 ARRL randolph@est.enet.dec.com ============================================================================== From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:02 1996 From: tstader@aol.com (TSTADER) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: New Web Site for Northeast Regional All Hazard Conference Date: 19 Mar 1996 19:17:23 -0500 Message-ID: <4iniqj$5gu@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: tstader@aol.com (TSTADER) The Massachusetts Emergency Management Agency has established a Web site. The latest information on the Northeast Regional All Hazard Conference, June 26-28, 1996 in Boston can be found there. The URL is http://www.magnet.state.ma.us/mema Please direct your telephone calls on this conference to Mr. Kevin Tully, Area 1 Director, Massachusetts Emergency Management Agency, (508) 640-9500 Fax (508) 851-8218. ========= On a side note.... I am looking for hams that are either ARES or RACES afiliated who might be interested in manning a Amateur Radio booth at this conference. We are looking for those who might be willing to show portable packet operation as well as APRS. Also looking for those that may have setup portable repeaters to be brought into a site and used in an emergency event. Please contact me if you are willing to come and join us, show off your skills as an emergency communicator and fabricator! Please e-mail me at this address or at tstader@i2t.com. Terry Stader - KA8SCP/1 MEMA Area 1 Communications/RACES Officer From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:04 1996 From: awall92116@aol.com (AWall92116) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: No Code = No Brain = C.B. Date: 12 Mar 1996 22:33:48 -0500 Message-ID: <4i5fms$5te@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <4h20m5$4hl@uwm.edu> Finally, we have someone in this newsgroup with a little bit of common sense. It is a fact that many Ham operators start out on the C.B.. I am personally sick and tired of people saying that CBer's have no brains. The fact of the matter is is that there are many rude and terrible CBer's but there are many nice people on the C.B. bands. I have also heard of Ham operators that make fools of themselves. There is good and bad in both worlds. At one time in my life, I had a desire to become a Ham Operator. But over time, I lost interest. To this day I still love talking on my C.B.. As far as the morse code goes, there is one main reason for having morse code. The main reason is because it takes less time to send than voice. By the time you finish talking to your contact by voice, the other operator could have faded out or he could be having a hard time understanding you. Morse is quick and easier to understand by having a bunch of little dits and dahs rather than trying to understand someone when they are trying to tell you their name. Morse code is more practical to use in some instances rather than using voice. That is my two cents on that subject. I have one last thing to say; why can't yall try to stop arguing over stupid things and try to get along. Sincerely, AWall92116@aol.com "Curly" From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:05 1996 From: medcalf@idir.net (gloria medcalf) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: NTS Messages via Packet BBSs (new web-site article) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 11:11:08 -0600 Message-ID: Do you want to use packet radio to send messages to your non-packet friends or even to your non-amateur friends? You can - by sending NTS (National Traffic System) messages. The article at the URL below explains how to do it. Article URL: http://www.idir.net/~medcalf/ztx/nts.html From the home page at http://www.idir.net/~medcalf/ztx/ you can link to other articles mostly about digital modes. The articles may be reprinted in amateur radio club newsletters provided that credit is given to the author. The site also contains diagrams for wiring radios to tncs. 73 gloria ka5ztx medcalf@idir.net From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:06 1996 From: Michael Tracy Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Old QST indexes - help! Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 15:53:41 -0800 Message-ID: <314F4905.4848@arrl.org> Hello all. I am in need of some older QST indexes to help us locate particular articles for folks that contact the ARRL looking for old article reprints. It seems that I have exhausted my local resources on this and now I need to ask a wider audience for help. The indexes I need copies of are: Volume VI (August 1922-July 1923) Volume VII (August 1923-July 1924) Volume XV (1931) These items were separate from the magazine and we do not have any copies of them. I think that the 1931 index may be part of the 1932 one, since the 1932 index we have states "Published in two sections of which this is Section II". If you have any of the above or know someone that does - please let me know. Best Regards, Michael Tracy, KC1SX, ARRL Technical Information Services ----------------------------------------------------------------------- American Radio Relay League, Inc. Tel: 1-860-594-0200 225 Main Street Fax: 1-860-594-0259 Newington, CT 06111 Email: mtracy@arrl.org (internet) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:07 1996 From: berndm@cs.monash.edu.au (Bernd Meyer) Newsgroups: aus.radio.amateur.misc,,rec.ham-radio,,rec.radio.amateur.misc,,alt.ham-radio.vhf-uhf Subject: OZ - Tasmania: Repeater VHF/UHF Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 10:38:05 +1100 Message-ID: Hi, does anybody have a list of 2m/70cm repeaters (frequencies and locations) in Australia and in particular in TASMANIA? ... or a pointer to a source? Please reply via email (berndm@cs.monash.edu.au), as I am normally not reading this list. Thanks a lot! 73, Bernd From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:08 1996 From: "Chris Telladira" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Phone Patch Needed For Fellow HAM Date: 18 Mar 1996 02:57:24 -0800 Message-ID: <9602188271.AA827156013@ccmail.beng.voa.gov> If anyone knows where I may purchase a Drake Phone Patch for a Drake TR-7, please e-mail me. The item is needed by another HAM in a "Third World" country, and should be in working order. TNX Chris, A22CT From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:09 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc From: stilz@ibm.net Subject: Re: Please identify this Halicrafter. Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 18:02:37 GMT Reply-To: stilz@lexmark.com References: <4ijm1r$qks@acmez.gatech.edu> In <4ijm1r$qks@acmez.gatech.edu>, soniat@prism.gatech.edu (Edward Soniat du Fo ssat Jr) writes: >Gentle Reader: > >What is this radio, how old is it and should I repair or replace. > >It is a Halicrafter. > >It has a large half moon dial labeled Tuning (with the h symbol in the middle ) >It has a smaller half moon dial labeled Band Spread to the right of Tuning. >It has Two large equal sized knobs one either side of the dials. >In the lower left it has an AM/CW switch (vertical slider) and speaker/phone >switch also a vertical slider. >In the center is has a four position pointer knob for band selection. >Too the right of the band select is a on/volume switch. >On the lower right it has a standby/receive switch (vertical slider). >The dials are covered with some sort of clear plastic. >The bands are labeled from the inside out in Megacycles .55 -1.6, >1.7 -5, 5 -14 , and 13.5 - 30. Some regions are labeled amateur and >some foreign. > >It has two glass tubes, two small dark opaque material tube like >components in tube like sockets, and two metal encased tube like >components. It uses 110v AC. It was reportedly >functioning but that was over 15 years ago. There is not a number or >sticker on it that I could find. It has been painted so if there was >anything etched on the cabinet it would be covered. It doesn't seem to be >rusty but the rubber bushing that separate the chasis from the housing >are mostly gone. > >Rating on a scale of 0 is run over by a truck and 10 is new this could >be a 3, in other words it ain't pretty. My interests are somewhat >sentimental but my funds are limited, if I could buy a similar radio >with more modes for the same money I would seriously consider it but I >would like to get this working again. > >Any thoughts. > >Ed >-- > _| | _ Edward C. Soniat WE4TFT Internet:ed@pobox.com > _| -|_ Mass transfer: 1854 Bishop's Green Dr > | | Marietta GA 30062-6079 (770)579-3279 > SX-24 or 22 maybe?? Describe the connection on the back please. Mike Stilz stilz@lexmark.com The thoughts, ideas, and opinions expressed herein are mine and are not intended to reflect those of my employer. This message was created and transmited solely via OS/2 applications From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:11 1996 From: Walt Novinger Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Please identify this Halicrafter. Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 13:35:39 -0800 Message-ID: <31507A2B.17E4@hooked.net> References: <4ijm1r$qks@acmez.gatech.edu> > In <4ijm1r$qks@acmez.gatech.edu>, soniat@prism.gatech.edu (Edward Soniat du Fossat Jr) writes: > >Gentle Reader: > > > >What is this radio, how old is it and should I repair or replace. > > > >It is a Halicrafter. > > > >It has a large half moon dial labeled Tuning (with the h symbol in the midd le) > >It has a smaller half moon dial labeled Band Spread to the right of Tuning. > >It has Two large equal sized knobs one either side of the dials. > >In the lower left it has an AM/CW switch (vertical slider) and speaker/phon e > >switch also a vertical slider. > >In the center is has a four position pointer knob for band selection. > >Too the right of the band select is a on/volume switch. > >On the lower right it has a standby/receive switch (vertical slider). > >The dials are covered with some sort of clear plastic. > >The bands are labeled from the inside out in Megacycles .55 -1.6, > >1.7 -5, 5 -14 , and 13.5 - 30. Some regions are labeled amateur and > >some foreign. > > > >It has two glass tubes, two small dark opaque material tube like > >components in tube like sockets, and two metal encased tube like > >components. It uses 110v AC. It was reportedly > >functioning but that was over 15 years ago. There is not a number or > >sticker on it that I could find. It has been painted so if there was > >anything etched on the cabinet it would be covered. It doesn't seem to be > >rusty but the rubber bushing that separate the chasis from the housing > >are mostly gone. > >This sounds like one of the many S-38 variants to me. The real issue here, however, is the conditipon of the "rubber bushings"...these are insolatore that keep the cabinet isolated from the chassis which is HOT! This is an AC-DC set, having one side of the AC line connected DIRECTLY to the chassis. If your plug or receptacle is wired incorrectly, and you happen to touch the cabinet and a good ground at the same time, you'll probably understand what toast feels like! Forgive the shouting, but DO NOT OPERATE THIS SET WITHOUT AN ISOLATION TRANSFORMER. At the least, replace the isolation bushings with rubber or plastic to maintain the insolation. Really. Walt -- ==================================================================== Walt Novinger Real Radios Keep You Warm At Night! Collector of hollowstate communications receivers and test equipment waltn@hooked.net wnovinger@shl.com CI$: 73348,2015 http://www.hooked.net/users/waltn From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:13 1996 From: bry2@usa.pipeline.com(Bry AF4K) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: QRP - HELP. Need to give speech Date: 16 Mar 1996 13:24:29 GMT Message-ID: <4iefed$h2p@news1.h1.usa.pipeline.com> References: <4i70o8$mi9@bb6k35.BB.Unisys.Com> On Mar 13, 1996 17:30:48 in article , 'Timothy E. Nagle ' wrote: >On our clubs weekly 2M phone net I mentioned that >I was interested on getting some information about QRP. >Well, a few weeks later I received the clubs news letter >with a schedule of up comming topics for the monthly >club meeting. I was listed as the main presenter >for May's meeting on the topic of QRP. > >I know close to nothing about it - that's why I was >asking questions! > >If anyone has any good ideas for such a talk I would >appreciate your help. Contact the guys on qrp-l@lehich.edu Send an e-mail to that address and for the body of text: subscribe qrp-l Soon you'll have TONS of info and advice. If you would like a list of sources for QRP kits and equipment, take a look at my file MEGALIST.TXT available at: Updated copies downloadable from BBSes at: (301) 681-7782, (301) 942-2218, (301) 299-3292, (301) 563-1306 (301) 417-6952, (202) 619-1494, (202) 208-7679, (301) 933-8251 FTP site is at ftp.Lehigh.EDU. Login as anonymous, and use your e-mail address as the password. FTP: ftp://ftp.lehigh.edu/pub/listserv/qrp-l/misc/megalist.txt WWW: http://qrp.cc.nd.edu/QRP-L/index.html WWW: http://www.nd.edu/~shideg/ DOWNLOAD as MEGALIST.ZIP or individually as: megalist.txt manuals.txt dealers.txt tubes.txt xtals.txt ======== > > >Without a clue, > >Tim Nagle >KB0QOM -- Bry in Gaithersburg, MD near DC Bry2@usa.pipeline.com.us Keep in touch! From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:14 1996 From: w7el@teleport.com (Roy Lewallen) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: QRP - HELP. Need to give speech Date: Thu, 14 Mar 96 22:01:56 GMT Message-ID: <4ia4ur$n2f@nadine.teleport.com> References: <4i70o8$mi9@bb6k35.BB.Unisys.Com> In article <4i70o8$mi9@bb6k35.BB.Unisys.Com>, Timothy E. Nagle wrote: >On our clubs weekly 2M phone net I mentioned that >I was interested on getting some information about QRP. >Well, a few weeks later I received the clubs news letter >with a schedule of up comming topics for the monthly >club meeting. I was listed as the main presenter >for May's meeting on the topic of QRP. > >I know close to nothing about it - that's why I was >asking questions! > >If anyone has any good ideas for such a talk I would >appreciate your help. > > >Without a clue, > >Tim Nagle >KB0QOM I strongly recommend against giving a talk on a subject you know little or nothing about. It wastes the audience's time, will be embarrassing to you, and will erode the credibility of any talk you give in the future on a topic you do know about. Call the person who schedules the club programs and tell him that you won't do it. He owes you an apology for publicly announcing that you'll give a talk without first getting your permission. If you want, you might offer to research the topic and give a talk on the order of "here's what I found out about QRP" as a sort of research report. But only after you're ready and have told the club so should they schedule you to give a presentation. Roy ("Abby") Lewallen, W7EL From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:14 1996 From: kkemper@aol.com (KKemper) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: QSL rte for OD5RY, ZL1RS Date: 15 Mar 1996 18:31:55 -0500 Message-ID: <4iculb$lmk@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: kkemper@aol.com (KKemper) I have checked the GO list and the callbooks for the QSL addresses for OD5RY and ZL1RS without luck. If anyone out there has the route please e-mail direct to kkemper@aol.com. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:16 1996 From: wm8s@citynet.net Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: RACES, Inc. Date: 12 Mar 1996 20:38:13 GMT Message-ID: <4i4nbl$gbl@news.citynet.net> We're shooting for IRS 501(c)(3) status this year for our County RACES unit (since government funding has been reduced to less than $0) and I was wondering if any other RACES units that have gone through it and survived would care to share their experiences. I think I might be able to wade through the forms after a coupla hundred thousand hours, but right now, I'm not even sure of step one: what form should we take? Officially, the RACES unit is sort of kind of a pseudo branch of our County's OES authorized by 47 CFR 97-E and County policy, so we can't really "incorporate" it. I think the way I've seen it done most often is to incorporate a foundation whose sole purpose in life is to accept income, make purchases and hold property on behalf of the RACES unit, no? I'm sure I've got other questions; if you care to correspond via e-mail, I'll be happy to post a summary after it's all over. Thanks! 73 de Rob WM8S RACES Officer Kanawha County, West Virginia -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rob Bailey, WM8S (wm8s@citynet.net) Kanawha / Charleston Bailey Computer Systems Radio Amateur Civil Emergency Service From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:16 1996 From: ken.thompson@KS.Symbios.COM (Ken Thompson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: RACES, Inc. Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 17:03:51 Message-ID: References: <4i4nbl$gbl@news.citynet.net> In article <4i4nbl$gbl@news.citynet.net> wm8s@citynet.net writes: >From: wm8s@citynet.net >Subject: RACES, Inc. >Date: 12 Mar 1996 20:38:13 GMT >We're shooting for IRS 501(c)(3) status this year for our County RACES unit >(since government funding has been reduced to less than $0) You have FUNDING!?! ... and funds?! We have zero money. Support from our county is just 40 year old surplus equipment. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:17 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: davidm@hous.inmet.com (David Martin) Subject: RADIO REVIEWS Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 19:33:50 GMT All: I heard that QST published a review that compared the following radios: ICW31A ICOM TH79A(D) KENWOOD FT51R YAESU Does anyone have a copy of that review? Is it available on the WWW or Internet? Can someone supply a brief part of it? David From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:18 1996 From: sco@atl.mindspring.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Radios at Atlanta Olympic Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 05:28:52 GMT Message-ID: <4ig87f$bto@B1FF.mindspring.com> References: <8BC2526.002900430A.uuout@hobbs.com> Reply-To: sco@atl.mindspring.com roland.stiner@hobbs.com (ROLAND STINER) wrote: >To: ham@w3eax.umd.edu >Subject: Radios at Atlanta Olympics >H>The Olympics will be very ham-unfriendly. All frequencies in and > >around the Olympics have apparently been accounted for by the staff > >and, in the interest of security, 2-way radios of all kinds (inclu- > >ding amateur HT's, known for being able to be modified for out of > >band operation), are banned from the venues (where the events happen). >H>I don't know if this includes cell phones, but by the way it sounded, > >it just might. Anyway, they've said not to bring your HT along, > >period. >Why, what are they worried about? >--- Just curious. Ham license is a FEDERAL license. How can a local non government entity like the Atlanta Olympic Committee ban ham radios in the area? Seems like if true something that should be taken up with the ARRL and the FCC. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:19 1996 From: wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Radios at Atlanta Olympics Date: 14 Mar 1996 04:17:23 GMT Message-ID: <4i86kj$gd4@cc.iu.net> References: <4heuc1$7js@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> <4hlt0h$iju@firebrick.mindspring.com> Reply-To: wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) In , bb840@scn.org (James Aeschliman) writes: >Personally, I think the reason for this is obvious. There's NO PROFIT in >it. As you know, profit drives everything in USA these days, including >the Olympic Games. >Jim Aeschliman bb840@scn.org >Black Diamond, Washington KD7MK doesn't hurt that Bell South is one of the big corporate sponsors either. they're going to provide the communications equipment...therefore, there's no need to look outside for other communications systems. Bill Newkirk WB9IVR The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group Melbourne, FL duty now for the future of amateur radio Lombardi's 1st Law of Business: Companies succeed in spite of their best effort. If they succeed at all. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:21 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: Radios at Atlanta Olympics Message-ID: <1996Mar14.161520.27242@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: <4heuc1$7js@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> <4hlt0h$iju@firebrick.mindspring.com> <4i86kj$gd4@cc.iu.net> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 16:15:20 GMT In article <4i86kj$gd4@cc.iu.net> wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) writes: >In , bb840@scn.org (James Aeschliman) writes: >>Personally, I think the reason for this is obvious. There's NO PROFIT in >>it. As you know, profit drives everything in USA these days, including >>the Olympic Games. > >doesn't hurt that Bell South is one of the big corporate sponsors either. >they're going to provide the communications equipment...therefore, there's >no need to look outside for other communications systems. As someone on-site so to speak, let me give potential Olympic attendees some advice. Of course leave your radios at home, else I'll be buying them real cheap at auction after the games. And don't bother trying to bring your guns to the games either, Ga law forbids them at sporting events, and I'll visit you in jail after the games if you do. And forget about bringing an auto to the games, ACOG has placed the ring off limits to private autos, so you won't be able to drive your car in Atlanta. You'll have to depend on the woefully inadequate mass transit system or walk through some of Atlanta's most dangerous neighborhoods at night to get around. (See note above about leaving your guns at home.) Atlanta's zone 2 (where the majority of the events will be held) is a very dangerous place, our State Attorney General commented yesterday that you'd be safer on the streets of Sarajevo than on the streets of Atlanta after dark. I'll send flowers to your survivors. (If your sport is white water kayaking, yachting, archery, the shooting sports, or you belong to the horsey set, then come on down. Those events are being held outside Atlanta and should be both accessable and safe. The new Wolf Creek shooting range is *very* nice, you'll like it.) If you must see the Olympics, I suggest you watch them on TV. You'll have a better view, it'll be cheaper, much safer, and more comfortable (Atlanta in July has temperatures in the 90s, and the humidity is in the 90s too). I *live* here, and that's what I'm going to do. And as a BTW to other Atlanta area folks, Delta just announced *deeply* discounted flights *out* of Atlanta during the games. You might want to take advantage of that. I hear Sarajevo is nice in July. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:21 1996 From: suggs@alumnae.caltech.edu (Brian D. Suggs) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy Subject: Re: Radios at Atlanta Olympics Date: 14 Mar 1996 19:02:35 GMT Message-ID: <4i9qgb$ef5@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: <4heuc1$7js@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> <4hlt0h$iju@firebrick.mindspring.com> In article <4hlt0h$iju@firebrick.mindspring.com>, David L. Thompson wrote: [...] > The next week I got a terse letter back saying that >ACOG wanted no part of "amateur" activity. Taken out of context, doesn't this statement seem a little absurd, given the intended nature of the Olympic Games??? -Brian Suggs, AC6GV From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:23 1996 From: cbaldwin@vllyoak.resun.com (Christopher Baldwin) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Radios at Atlanta Olympics Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Mar 96 17:18:08 PST References: <1996Mar14.161520.27242@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> > Of course leave your radios at home, else I'll be buying them real > cheap at auction after the games. And don't bother trying to bring > your guns to the games either, Ga law forbids them at sporting events, > and I'll visit you in jail after the games if you do. And forget about > > Gary > -- > Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems > Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp addre s > 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org > Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | -- Christopher Baldwin cbaldwin%vllyoak.resun.com%blkhole@sdd.hp.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:23 1996 From: Russell Chandler Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Ramsey Amplifiers Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 11:37:03 -0500 Message-ID: Need some opinons and thoughts about the Ramsey QRP Linear Amplifiers. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:24 1996 From: lugovich@na.flashnet.it (Luciano Ostrogovich) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: RCI-2950 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 22:00:18 GMT Message-ID: <4icp40$1fd@news.flashnet.it> I am looking for the calibration instructions of the RCI-2950. I hope that somebody may help me. Tanking you in advance. Luciano -- **************************************** From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:26 1996 From: rixie@ix.netcom.com(Rob Murphy ) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: REQ: 17 & 20 meter nodes for packet Date: 17 Mar 1996 23:48:09 GMT Message-ID: <4ii8bp$l4r@cloner3.netcom.com> Could someone let me know as many 17 & 20 meter packet nodes that are in the US and their location. I've had many problems finding them. It's hard enough to find 2 meter nodes. The repeater directory doesn't list half of what's out there. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thankx, N9RXE From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:27 1996 From: derose@looking-glass.caltech.edu (Guy A. DeRose) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Roll-up J-Pole Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 09:34:38 LOCAL Message-ID: References: <314F1EFE.2781@raleigh.ibm.com> In article <314F1EFE.2781@raleigh.ibm.com> John Lloyd KE4UTX writes: > I'm looking for plans for roll-up j-poles I can hang in >my office and take camping with me for 2m and 70cm. If you can >point me to articles in QSL or web/ftp sites I would be very >happy. There was a construction article in QST about a year and a half ago describing this very thing. I can't remembr the exact issue with certainty, but I think it was September, 1994. I have made 3 of them, and they are quite handy. I have one hanging out of my office window, and one that I keep rooled up in my backpack to take hiking. They are quite useful, and very inexpensive to make. I hope this helps. KE6JTN Guy A. DeRose Manager, Senior Physics Laboratory Caltech From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:28 1996 From: Gregg Houck Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Semi-Custom Logic Design Date: 16 Mar 1996 18:51:50 GMT Message-ID: <4if2k6$saj@news.internetmci.com> If you need a Digital I.C. to perform a special task, or you need to do Login Reduction E-mail or Fax us your needs. We will contact you, go over your needs and then issue you a quote. We design semi-custom logic using PAL's, EPLD's and PEEL's.. We also do custom software for Microcontrollers like the PIC and Motorola HC05/HC11 controllers. E-mail us at gah@houck.com FAX us at 814-355-8896 Leave us a voice message at 814-355-7648 Houck's Communications and Electronics 717 N. Allegheny Street Bellefonte, PA 16823 Gregg WA3WNE From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:29 1996 From: lenwink@indirect.com (Len Winkler) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Senator Goldwater Interview Date: Fri, 15 Mar 96 16:19:55 GMT Message-ID: <4ic58d$730@globe.indirect.com> An in-depth, amateur radio interview, 2 hours in length, is now available on the net, via RealAudio, courtesy of TAPR and Greg Jones. The interview was conducted by Len Winkler, KB7LPW, on 3/28/93, live on the Ham Radio & More Show. Listen and enjoy. http:www.tapr.org/hrm Len Winkler, KB7LPW lenwink@indirect.com P.O. Box 9219 kb7lpw@kc7y.az.usa.na Phoenix, Az. 85068-9219 Ham Radio & More Show info at: http://www.barc.org/barc/ham-more.html RealAudio site: www.tapr.org/hrm/hrm.html The show airs LIVE at 6:00pm ET on many stations throughout the country. The show also airs on WWCR shortwave, tape delayed at 1000utc on 7.435, on Mon days, and Saturdays at 1700utc on 12.160. LIVE ON WWCR, 5.065 mhz.....also check 7.435mhz, 2300utc Support "WOG". Written only General!!! From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:30 1996 From: Randall Rhea Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: setting up FM broadcast Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 16:10:03 -0600 Message-ID: <3145F63B.D53@informix.com> References: To: Doug Fairclough Doug Fairclough wrote: > some co workers and i want to set up a fm broadcast in our > work space to take control back of the stereo situation. > The Ramsey FM-10A kit is an FM stereo transmitter that is perfectly legal. With a good antenna, the range is about 1/4 mile. You can get one at a ham radio or electronics shop. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Randall Rhea Systems Engineer Informix Software randall@informix.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:31 1996 From: rayc@tcd.net (Ray D. Congdon) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: setting up FM broadcast Date: Wed, 13 Mar 96 17:59:38 GMT Message-ID: References: A simple low buck solution is the Ramsey FM-25 Stereo Transmitter. Kit is 129 .95 rock stable (synthesized from a Crystal source). Put a Cd Changer on the inpu t and you have a system that can cover an area abt 1/4 mi. in radius. Ramsey Electr onics 1-800-446-2295 Good Luck! ( I installed one for a ski resort here to cover th eir lodge area... Works great!) ---- Ray D. Congdon N7HQK ISA-USA 5515 N. 4400 W. Cedar City, Utah 84720 From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:31 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: ag001@lafn.org (Abraham Stavsky) Subject: Southern Cal. Repeater database? Message-ID: <1996Mar17.061658.12493@lafn.org> Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 06:16:58 GMT Anyone know of any on the 'Net? Thanks, KE6OCM -- From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:32 1996 From: Will Flor Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Technician Plus Date: 17 Mar 1996 00:44:45 GMT Message-ID: <4ifn9t$ml5@news.inc.net> References: <4hihf3$5l2@firebrick.mindspring.com> <3140219E.45F9@telepath.com> <826638049snz@microvst.demon.co.uk> <1996Mar12.165612.16424@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <31465834.347088101@quartz.mv.com> jbl@levin.mv.com (Joel B Levin) wrote: >In <1996Mar12.165612.16424@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, > Gary Coffman wrote: >|And unless the FCC has changed its mind lately (possible since the >|move to an all VE exam system), they'll accept a First or Second >|Class Radiotelegraph certificate in lieu of any amateur Morse speed >|test. So you could get a Tech+ license without taking any of 1(A), >|1(B), or 1(C). No written credit for the commercial certificate, >|however, since at least the rules and regs part is different. > >Pretty sure this is still valid. Certainly it also works the other way: an >Amateur Extra license stands in lieu of the 2nd class Radiotelegraph code >test requirement. > > I know it was still valid about six months ago when a good friend of mine got a few Commercial Service tickets. Of course, *nothing* substitutes for the 1st-Class Radiotelegraph code test requirement - my goodness, it's stiff! 73 de Will KB9JTT willf@rrgroup.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:33 1996 From: wb2kfo@i-2000.com (Harry) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Ten Tec Equip. For Sale + more Date: 15 Mar 1996 02:50:49 GMT Message-ID: <4ialu9$fpm@i-2000.com> References: <4hr38c$hcq@i-2000.com> Thank you for the response. The swr analyzer is sold. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:34 1996 From: gbaron@sparc.isl.net (Gilbert Baron) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Test from DESKMEDIA Mar 12 1722 Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 23:25:31 GMT Message-ID: <314607ce.2383398@199.86.32.8> This is a test from DESKMEDIA _ Gil Baron W0MN gbaron@sparc.isl.net Web http://www.isl.net/~gbaron "Bailar es vivir" pgp2.6 key http://www-swiss.ai.mit.edu/~bal/pks-toplev.html "Cuatro caminos hay en mi vida. Cual de los cuatro sera el mejor" [Posted with Agent .99d. For info, email agent-info@forteinc.com.] From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:34 1996 From: todd@tj.org (Todd Jonz) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: TTL/RS-232 converters Date: 19 Mar 1996 21:58:43 GMT Message-ID: <4inamj$t4u@news.scruz.net> I'm in the market for a pair rig-to-PC interfaces (TTL to RS-232 level converters), one for a Yaesu FT-736R and another for a Kenwood TS-950SD. I called the local HRO store to inquire about prices and availability and was absolutely astonished to learn that they want $110 and $120, respectively, for these little beasts. I assume that this is in the ballpark of the MSRP, and that the other major suppliers will have similar prices. I recall seeing ads in the past in QST for several third parties offering these interfaces in the $40 to $50 price range, but after pouring through the last three issues, I've come up dry. Can anybody give me a pointer? KB6JXT, Todd P.S. Please excuse what may be a stupid hardware question from an admitted software geek, but us there any possible justification for a $120 price tag on an item like this? Seems *way* out of line to me.... From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:35 1996 From: maillet@ensm-douai.fr (MAILLET D.) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: tube CFTH TH3T 1100 info ? Date: 19 Mar 1996 11:26:50 GMT Message-ID: <4im5lq$gej@netserver.univ-lille1.fr> pse help me for info tube CFTH TH3T 1100 tnx F5TSW maillet@ensm-douai.fr From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:37 1996 From: gfiber@halcyon.com (Gary Fiber) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Tx on busy mod for Icom IC-V68? Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 13:34:03 GMT Message-ID: <4i6j4d$au1@news.halcyon.com> References: <826271408.22780snx@genes.pl.my> wired@genes.pl.my (Eugene Kang) wrote: >Is there a mod that will allow my Icom IC-V68 to transmit on a busy channel, >or is it configurable? My unit came with a `manual' that looked more like a >spec sheet. >Please send me a copy of your reply via email as my hopeless ISP misses >half the newsgroup postings. >thanks! >--Eugene Kang/wired@alphaque.com Eugene, No mod needed for this. Transmit lockout on a busy channel is a land mobile feature. it is turned on or off during the programming of the V-68. It is there to keep users of land mobile radio from keying up all over each other or forved respect for other users on the same frequency. There are also other neat items like penelty timers where one user hogs a system, the radio will apply a penelty time not allowing the user to transmit until the time runs out. this is all done to protect users from themselves. So you need to look in the programming manual or see the dealer who sold the radio to you for instructions on turning off the trasnmit lockout while busy setting. You could also e-mail ICOM tech Support at 75540.525@compuserve.com, they will want to know what country you are in, they will be able to refer you to a dealer who can help. The V-68 is not dsold for use in the United States as it is not type accepted because it transmits from 136 to 174 Mhz inclusively. Gary From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:37 1996 From: Jan-Martin Hertzsch Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: URL of Canadian club? Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 20:34:57 +0100 Message-ID: <314F0C61.41C6@agnld.uni-potsdam.de> Dear friends of r.r.a.m., some days ago an URL of the web page of a radio club in northern Canada (VE1 or VE7) was posted to this newsgroup. I had already bookmarked it, but the file got lost again. Would the original poster be so kind to re-post this message or to send me the URL via e-mail? Many thanks in advance and vy 73 de DG0LFH Jan-Martin From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:38 1996 From: clarke@aztec.asu.edu (JACK CLARKE) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: US Ham in Mexico Date: 17 Mar 1996 00:02:18 GMT Message-ID: <4ifkqa$g5p@news.asu.edu> Look back a few postings and you'll see my previous answer. Jack VE3EED/W7 -- From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:39 1996 From: "C. Wheeler" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Use of radio on passenger airlines Date: 13 Mar 1996 17:31:09 GMT Message-ID: <4i70ot$dea@gaudi.lahabra.chevron.com> References: <4hniu4$pfl$2@mhadg.production.compuserve.com> <1996Mar11.160441.10908@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) wrote: >The FARs never gave the PIC of a commercial passenger carrying >aircraft the right to allow you to use a non-certified transmitter >on his aircraft. The FARs said that the *operator* must certify >that the radio won't cause harmful interference to that *particular* >aircraft. There is no requirement for aircraft operators to "certify" any portable electronic devices. They are just required to make a determination that the device will not cause interference. >The operator is the *carrier*, IE Delta. And the certification >was required for the *particular* aircraft tail number, not just for >the aircraft *type*. That meant the carrier had to pull the aircraft >out of service for up to half a day to do the certification, and >none of them would do that, so none of them would give you permission >to use the radio. Now they can't even do that, the new FARs don't >even give them the option to test and certify. I believe you maybe confusing the requirements for installing equipment with using portable devices. An installation on a aircraft would require certification. >Now for private or charter operations, the PIC could give you permission >provided he was operating under VFR rules at the time. And he still can. >So if you're flying in a non-scheduled puddle jumper, just ask the PIC >if you can use the radio. If he says yes, you're cool. As part 91 PIC, I *could* allow the use of a ham transmitter under IFR if I determine that it will not cause interference with the communications or navigation systems. The device would then comply with FAR 91.21. But this is not the way a part 135 or 121 carrier will/should deal with the issue. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:41 1996 From: "C. Wheeler" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Use of radio on passenger airlines Date: 13 Mar 1996 17:17:13 GMT Message-ID: <4i6vup$dea@gaudi.lahabra.chevron.com> References: <31448D65.3019@coltechinc.com> Cole Cunningham wrote: >Check the amateur rules of the FCC, specifically 97.11(c) where it >says..."For a station aboard an aircraft, the apparatus (ham station) >shall not be operated while the aircraft is operating under Instrument >Flight Rules, as defined by the FAA, unless ther station has been found >to comply with all applicable FAA rules".. > >Since all commercial aircraft flights operate under IFR all the time, >regardless of weather, and most likely your station hasn't been checked >out on that particular aircraft, its against the rules... The applicable FAR for airborne ops is 91.21. It basically forbids the use of ANY portable electronic device on board any airplane with four specific exceptions and a fifth exception that can be vaugely read to allow other things. The fifth exception is just that a device can be used if the "operator*" has determined that the device will not interfere with on board systems. *not the radio operator, but the operator of the aircraft - the airline. The FAA has offered guidance on 91.21 to the airlines and general aviation in "advisory circular" AC 91.21-1. See the text of the AC if you want to at ftp://ftp.ccnet.com/users/cwheeler/aviation/ac91211.txt There is no elaborate testing requirement to "certify" portable electronic devices. The operators just have to make a determination that it will not cause interference. There are recommendations for testing but no specific mandates. However in AC 91.21-1, the FAA has told airlines that they should not allow the use of any transmitters on board. >The primary navigation and landing aids on an aircraft (VOR and ILS) >operate in the 108-118 MHz range, the vertical guidance (glideslope) is >in the 330 MHz range, and we all know what close transmitters do to our >ham radios. So would you like to be making an approach in bad weather to >landing minimums (100 ft ceiling and 1/4 mile visibility ahead) and >about the time you get low, somebody keys his mike, turns on his laptop, >fires up the cellular, turns on the electric razor, etc... OOPS, aw >shucks.... Some geewiz info on your examples: The use of cellular telephones on any aircraft while airborne is prohibited by FCC rules (22.925) - there is no need for an FAR on that. Electric razors are one of the PEDs that are specifcally allowed by FAR 91.21 in addition to hearing aids, pacemakers and portable voice recorders. >The possibilities for interference are endless, and all commercial >aircraft are thoroughly checked BEFORE critical use to make sure they >don't have any spooks... > >So for your OWN protection, keep the HT in the OFF position while on >board... Good advice. And face it, you don't have to use your ham gear when flying on a commercial airliner. >Cole Cunningham, >Commercial, Instrument and Multiengine rated pilot, Avionics Design >Engineer for 20+ yrs, FAA Licensed Repairman, FCC General Ticket, >Amateur Extra.... Curtis PP-ASEL, GROL, KD6ELA From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:42 1996 From: dx@tir.com (Tim English) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Vanity callsigns -- when ???? Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 22:08:25 GMT Message-ID: <314b3b85.693537@news.tir.com> I have received my 610-V forms. Does anyone know when the first gate is expected to open up and when subsequent gates will open ? Thanks in advance. -- Tim ************************************************************* Amateur Radio: wb8ogm @ aa8gl.#nemi.mi.usa.noam Internet Email and Voice Email: dx@mail.tir.com "Sometimes imagination is better than knowledge" ************************************************************* From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:43 1996 From: sscherme@capecod.net (Skid Schermerhorn, W1TTY) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Vanity callsigns -- when ???? Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 15:03:23 GMT Message-ID: <4ih9mj$490@alpha.pcix.com> References: <314b3b85.693537@news.tir.com> Reply-To: skid@ccsnet.com dx@tir.com (Tim English) wrote: >I have received my 610-V forms. Does anyone know when the first gate >is expected to open up and when subsequent gates will open ? Thanks in >advance. >-- >Tim > ************************************************************* > Amateur Radio: wb8ogm @ aa8gl.#nemi.mi.usa.noam > Internet Email and Voice Email: dx@mail.tir.com > > "Sometimes imagination is better than knowledge" > ************************************************************* ======== SB QST @ ARL $ARLB011 ARLB011 Vanity calls delayed ZCZC AG90 QST de W1AW ARRL Bulletin 11 ARLB011 From ARRL Headquarters Newington CT February 15, 1996 To all radio amateurs SB QST ARL ARLB011 ARLB011 Vanity calls delayed ARRL has learned that the FCC may delay until mid-1996 the announcement of when it plans to open the first gate or gates of the vanity call sign program. A Commission spokesman says the FCC first wants to deal with remaining Petitions for Reconsideration it has received. The FCC had been expected to announce opening dates early this year. FCC vanity call sign application Form 610V is now available, but the FCC will not accept completed forms until it opens the appropriate kfiling gates. Prospective applicants can get the FCC Form 610V package by writing ARRL, 225 Main Street, Newington, CT 06111. Please include an sase. Form 610V also is available from the FCC via the Internet at http://www.fcc.gov/Forms/Form610V or ftp://ftp.fcc.gov/pub/Forms/Form610V/, or by fax at 202-418-0177. Ask for Form 006108. The FCC's Forms Distribution Center also accepts orders for Form 610V at 800-418-3676. NNNN /EX  From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:44 1996 From: Robertson Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Virtual Radio Museum Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 18:18:10 -0800 Message-ID: <314B7662.7193@ix.netcom.com> Hi! For anyone interested in the history of Radio, stop by my Virtual Radio Museum at: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1630/otr.html The site is heavily enhanced with JavaScript and GIF animation, so bring your Netscape 2.0 and have fun! -Lin/KJ6EF From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:45 1996 From: wlfuqu00@service1.UKy.EDU (William L. Fuqua III) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Wake Up Call Date: 20 Mar 96 20:30:03 GMT Message-ID: <199603202030.PAA24976@service1.cc.uky.edu> > >When the bands are taken away and auctioned off for HDTV channels or >wireless computer networks (commercial ones, of course) whatever, we >all will lose, but the "beepers" will be primarily to blame for >keeping the "clubhouse" closed to those who don't share their >backward, parochial views. > > >Carl R. Stevenson | Design-Systems Engineering-Analysis >Consulting Engineer |------------------------------------ >Internet: | Mobile Radio - Cellular/PCS - VSAT >Amateur Radio - WA6VSE | CATV - Wired/Wireless LAN/WAN >PGP Pub Key ID= 0x66682155 | h/w - s/w - protocols - simulations > It is already code free for the ham bands that could be used for HDTV etc. There are plenty of hams on those bands. Bill ko4ww William L. Fuqua III P.E. Department of Physics and Astronomy CP-177 Chem. Phys. Bldg. University of Kentucky Lexington, Ky 40506-0055 E-mail WLFUQU00@POP.UKY.EDU Phone (606) 257-4155 From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:46 1996 From: Hans Brakob K0HB <71111.260@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Wake Up Call! Date: 16 Mar 1996 20:38:36 GMT Message-ID: <4if8sc$shf$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> References: <1996Mar16.150047.7105@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> >and leave beeping to the lesser mortals who don't know >any better. You just don't get it, do you Gary? The start of this thread SPECIFICALLY asked everyone to ignore the trivial "beep or not beep" BS. Further, labeling folks who use Morse as "lesser mortals" seems deliberately calculated to avoid a cooperative effort in finding a solution. Everytime I start thinking you might be a forward looking fellow, you turn back to your divsive rhetoric. de Hans, K0HB -- 73, de Hans, K0HB --Without frequencies, there is no Amateur Radio Service! From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:47 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: Wake Up Call! Message-ID: <1996Mar16.153348.7320@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: <4i2onb$6m3$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> <4i4ur2$p2b@usenet.pa.dec.com> <4i9ojc$ngg@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca> Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 15:33:48 GMT In article <4i9ojc$ngg@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca> rwa@cs.athabascau.ca (Ross Alexa nder) writes: > >What if we could get a whole crowd of 70cm/23cm split fm repeaters >into orbit? That would let people with fairly pedestrian gear work a >much larger potential pool of other amateurs, and gets around the >"which came first, the chicken or the egg" problem. Then you can >count on occupation pressure to drive them into the second generation >of 23cm/12cm machines, and so on. > >Could some clever person comment on how severe the doppler problem >would be? It's bad for LEOs, and gets worse as the frequency increases, but it is solvable. The worse problem is the FM capture effect. The guy with the EME setup is going to grab the transponder and monopolize it for the whole pass. We've already seen this in action with O27 and with Shuttle and Mir. FM is a bad choice for something with such a large footprint and such a large and uncontrolled user community. It allows, and encourages, one user to monopolize the entire (very precious and limited) power budget of the transponder. That's a poor use of spectrum and orbital resources. The traditional AMSAT answer to this problem is to ban use of analog FM on the satellites, to use peer pressure against alligators, ban contests from the birds (which tend to bring out the alligators), and to foster superior weak signal reception capabilities with the ZRO tests. An alternative management strategy, used on the microsats and Mir, is to use digital methods which inherently support sharing, IE packet. That works fairly well, but can be improved through use of better channel management protocols. Since stations who don't follow the proper protocols don't get through, it becomes self- enforcing. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:49 1996 From: little@pecan.enet.dec.com (Todd Little) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy Subject: Re: Wake Up Call! Date: 12 Mar 1996 22:45:54 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <4i4ur2$p2b@usenet.pa.dec.com> References: <4i2onb$6m3$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> Reply-To: little@pecan.enet.dec.com In article <4i2onb$6m3$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> Hans Brakob K0HB <71111.260@CompuServe.COM> wrote: > It is significant to note that the turf which will come under > pressure is not down on HF but almost exclusively above 100mhz. > It is time for us here on r.r.a.POLICY to abandon the tired old > debates which divide our ranks on trivial issues like CW, or HT’S > at the Olympic Games, and instead combine our talents and > brainpower on techniques and strategies aimed at ensuring our > survival. Without frequencies, there is no Amateur Radio Service. > Will you help? > > --Without frequencies, there is no Amateur Radio Service! Amen! Several things come to mind with this call to arms. First is we need to figure out a way to build the amateur radio community as a community. The comments expressed here seem to often indicate that there is a large portion of the amateur radio community that doesn't welcome or recognize another large portion of the amateur radio community. Although it is a tired saying it seems to apply: "United we stand, divided we fall." I'm not sure what's the best way to solve this other than to try and convince the parties on both sides of the issue that our internal bickering is more detrimental than almost anything else. Another obvious issue is how to attract people to these bands that are relatively unused. From my own perspective, I'm only active on a number of the VHF+ bands because of the various contests that are available. With my antenna restrictions I can't hope to compete in an HF contest, but could potentially compete in VHF+ contests, especially if I rove as I intend to. But aside from that activity, in the Chicago area there is little activity on anything other than 2 meter and 70 cm repeaters when it comes to VHF+. 220 is not particularly well occupied and 903 MHz is *much* less occupied. 1296 MHz is a little better occupied and above that it is a handful of experimenters. Given the spare occupancy of these bands, it is hard to convince the average amateur to spend the money to get on those bands as they'll have few people with which they can communicate. This is probably the primary reason for the code/no-code debate with respect to HF. An HF station gives one a *VERY* large population to talk to whereas a 903 MHz station around here might allow you to talk to under 10 other amateurs. This suggests to me that one of two things must happen. Either we need to find new uses other than one on one QSOs to use these bands, or we need to drop the price barrier to such a low level that these bands will become better occupied and hence offer the interested amateur more people with which they can communicate. I'll see what I can come up with for new uses and post that subsequently. As for decreasing the price barrier, perhaps others have good suggestions on how to help there. 73, Todd N9MWB From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:51 1996 From: thompson@atl.mindspring.com (David L. Thompson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy Subject: Re: Wake Up Call! Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 22:18:20 GMT Message-ID: <4ii2fp$dtk@B1FF.mindspring.com> References: <4i2onb$6m3$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> Reply-To: thompson@atl.mindspring.com Hans Brakob K0HB <71111.260@CompuServe.COM> wrote: d >It is significant to note that the turf which will come under >pressure is not down on HF but almost exclusively above 100mhz. >It is time for us here on r.r.a.POLICY to abandon the tired old >debates which divide our ranks on trivial issues like CW, or HT’S >at the Olympic Games, and instead combine our talents and >brainpower on techniques and strategies aimed at ensuring our >survival. Without frequencies, there is no Amateur Radio Service. >Will you help? >-- >73, de Hans, K0HB >--Without frequencies, there is no Amateur Radio Service! It is already happening...the question of banning HT's at the Olympics plus deciding that the Olympics will have no official amateur radio station shows that amateur radio is held in low esteem. The best defense that amateur radio has is that we continue to be a pool of electronics experts and are willing to try new things. Amateurs greatly expanded the use of SSB before most other services, have some of the most extensive packet networks around such as the SE DX Packet Cluster covering 14 states, and proved that EME will work on several frequencies below 1296Mhz. Handling emergency traffic sounds nice but 80% of the worlds hams have no third party traffic rights..emergency or not. We need to support ARRL and IARU as they are respected attendees and contributors to the WARC conferences. 73, Dave K4JRB From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:52 1996 From: randolph@est.enet.dec.com (Tom Randolph) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy Subject: Re: Wake Up Call! Date: 14 MAR 96 10:23:15 Message-ID: <4i9er0$hrs@mrnews.mro.dec.com> References: <4i2onb$6m3$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> <1996Mar12.163622.16132@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> In article , dsa@netcom.com (David S.A. Stine) write s... >Since we don't use the spectrum, we are going to lose it. It is that >simple. And in my opinion, we should lose it, because you're right: it >isn't hard to hack equipment to use on those bands, but so few seem wont to >break a hint of sweat to make it happen. Yah, and there's a reason why few are willing to bother. Simply, amateurs have little use for those bands. Really - what I'm I gonna do on 10 GHz besides send a few contest beeps to another hilltop? No use = no interest. I suppose I could set up a high speed data link with my friend in the next town, but I have no use for such a thing. I haven't even turned on my PC in weeks. >We have damn few excuses why these frequencies aren't used. But lo! The HF >bands seem quite amply used, and there is that nasty, outdated code Yup. I have somewhat limited money to spend on radio "toys", so I spend it where my interests are. HF and 2m/70cm for local stuff. I'm trying to get us (wife is a ham, too) going on 6m by modifying ancient commercial VHF-low radios. That's on the back burner for now, until I get all the parts together. ============================================================================== Tom Randolph N1OOQ NE-QRP 419 QRP-L 87 ARRL randolph@est.enet.dec.com ============================================================================== From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:54 1996 From: carl@igc.net@igc.net (Carl R. Stevenson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy Subject: Re: Wake Up Call! Date: 16 Mar 1996 22:30:37 GMT Message-ID: <4iffed$ifp@IRIS.igc.net> References: <4i2onb$6m3$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> <1996Mar12.163622.16132@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <1996Mar16.150047.7105@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: carl@igc.net (Carl R. Stevenson) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In <1996Mar16.150047.7105@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman ) writes: > (snip) >There are a few engineers who are hams, and who beep furiously, but >when you pin them down, they say that they do it to get away from >the complexities that they face in their jobs. In other words, it >serves as mind pablum, like watching TV. That's not the sort of >engineer we want or need to open up the upper bands. We want people >so totally enamored of technology that they can't get enough of it >at work where their free rein is limited by the need to meet deadlines >and project milestones. That sort of person isn't interested in the >mundane, the old, the way grandpappy did it, sort of amateur radio >found primarily among the beepers. > >If I had my way, the code test free class would be Extra, the group >who should know enough to realize beeping doesn't matter, and leave >beeping to the lesser mortals who don't know any better. (How's that >for inflamatory?) > Gary, Inflamatory as it may be to the "beepers" it's "right on!" We've got far too many "beep forever" folks and not enough new blood to develop the new gear and applications to assure our continued use of the spectrum. When the bands are taken away and auctioned off for HDTV channels or wireless computer networks (commercial ones, of course) whatever, we all will lose, but the "beepers" will be primarily to blame for keeping the "clubhouse" closed to those who don't share their backward, parochial views. Carl R. Stevenson | Design-Systems Engineering-Analysis Consulting Engineer |------------------------------------ Internet: | Mobile Radio - Cellular/PCS - VSAT Amateur Radio - WA6VSE | CATV - Wired/Wireless LAN/WAN PGP Pub Key ID= 0x66682155 | h/w - s/w - protocols - simulations - -------------------------------------------------------------------- Key Fingerprint= D6 2B 45 8C 9E 41 F2 45 8B CF 92 4F DC DD 68 DA - -------------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMUtA0+IP1XFmaCFVAQFB0AP9GYpGACtvT6rKc4LYvBpq9LAurho2yNd9 WoWc8TWXStc3z40YrRP/nIKbDCtbNc2h6M4bogfZ5Sf9xp9qp0fANqvHc0L4/odY BMF/naR0tJ6FDHakFesChtCJZSy3/xE6DZwwPJgh8JdTLdMNhooDSkEoAAMBdElC no4vy/UZLno= =kmRX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:56 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy From: sorgatz@avatar.tti.com (Erik K.Sorgatz) Subject: Re: Wake Up Call! Message-ID: References: <4i2onb$6m3$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 22:00:46 GMT In article <4i2onb$6m3$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> Hans Brakob K0HB <71 111.260@CompuServe.COM> writes: > >It is significant to note that the turf which will come under >pressure is not down on HF but almost exclusively above 100mhz. >It is time for us here on r.r.a.POLICY to abandon the tired old >debates which divide our ranks on trivial issues like CW, or HT’S >at the Olympic Games, and instead combine our talents and >brainpower on techniques and strategies aimed at ensuring our >survival. Without frequencies, there is no Amateur Radio Service. >Will you help? > Sure Hans, the question is: " Can a combined effort to retain our existing allocations, or add new ones really influence the ITU? " If history is any indicator, it seems most likely that the ITU will simply ignore Amateurs, and give the broadcasters *exactly* what they want! The various governments will also standby and let the broadcasters do whatever they want - remember the old allocation of '200m and down'?? The broadcasting industry has a reputation for being as coniving and greedy as any business could ever be. They have lied, cheated, bribed and stolen in their pursuit of spectrum, finally resorting to simply placing stations on frequencies that were allocated to other services. And they have done so with no opposition or punishment from government. That those in government were acting out of vested interests is a matter of public record. In order to prevent this, we Amateurs must not only band together, we must find a powerful champion INSIDE both government and the ITU. Someone who is willing to understand our need as well as the history that predicates this sort of combined action. Someone who really knows the history and will not bend to the economic incentives that the broadcasters will all too willingly entice any such person with! What we should be striving for is a set of harmonically-related bands that can be Amateur exclusive allocations worldwide! With guarantees, in writing, that these allocations will *never* be taken away or subtracted from. Then there is the not-so-little problem of the non-ITU signatory countries.. ..I need only point to the mess that is 40m and thereabouts to illustrate my point. The UN and ITU should bring pressure to bear on these people - whatever works (economic sanctions from the US and Europe might be a good starting point!) until they abandon their non-signatory status and join the rest of the world in acting responsibly towards spectrum management! Some other targets: Business band radio - still largely FM, non-trunked and underutilized, occupies a great deal of the 30-500 MHz area wastefully. Fixed-Service HF - totally obsolete, no real use of this can possibly be justified, given cellular technology. IMTS - still with us, why?? UHF-TV - another wasteland! Even the heavy-population metro areas seldom have more than 8 stations there, even tho theres room for 70!! Besides, DBS and cable are going to guarantee that this space remains unused. High Seas - a total waste now that most ships carry sat gear! 2-3.5, 4-7, 8-12, 16-21, 22-24MHz plus all those V/UHF frequencies?? Absurd! There arent enough ships in the whole world to justify it! And lastly, there's a matter of those 'experiments' gone awry, like the 220-222 MHz slice that was "SUPPOSED" to have helped to usher in ACSSB...remember? Here again, the forces inside industry screwed the Amateurs out of some space...and they never did with the spectrum what they claimed! These sorts of situations should be eliminated by insisting that the allocation either be used for it's stated purpose or else. Some things to kickoff the dialog.. 73! sorgatz@avatar.tti.com (or:es@soldev.tti.com) KB6LUY (private email:eks@westwo rld.com) TTI 3100 Ocean Park Blvd. Santa Monica, CA 90405 "ANY COMMENTS OR STATEMENTS MADE ARE NOT NECESSARILY THOSE OF CITICORP, ITS SU BSIDIARIES OR AFFILIATES." (Copyright 1995, ARR-permission to store/archive hereby grante d) From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:07:58 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy From: dsa@netcom.com (David S.A. Stine) Subject: Re: Wake Up Call! Message-ID: References: <4i2onb$6m3$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> <1996Mar12.163622.16132@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 19:07:30 GMT In article <1996Mar12.163622.16132@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, Gary Coffman wrote: >Yacomwood doesn't offer turnkey solutions above 1.2 GHz, so we can't >just burn the plastic to occupy this spectrum. But the equipment isn't >hard to convert or build, its available, and just waiting for us to >heat up a soldering iron, fire up the mill, spin up the lathe, or >grab a file and start to work. Well, *obviously*, the problem is that we don't have enough people in the hobby to get activity on these bands. We keep requiring people to learn those silly outdated modes like CW and that scares off all the technical people who would fill up all these UHF bands if only we'd get these silly CW requirements out of the way. What's that? There's a no-code Tech license? And there still aren't people experimenting and filling up the VHF/UHF/SHF bands? Gee, what a bummer. Pardon my sarcasm, Gary, but here's the fact: most people in radio today (most, not all) want it all handed to them on a china plate, with back-lit LCD panels, at ever-decreasing prices. Scantily clad models fawning over the equipment at trade shows helps, but is optional. Since we don't use the spectrum, we are going to lose it. It is that simple. And in my opinion, we should lose it, because you're right: it isn't hard to hack equipment to use on those bands, but so few seem wont to break a hint of sweat to make it happen. We have damn few excuses why these frequencies aren't used. But lo! The HF bands seem quite amply used, and there is that nasty, outdated code requirement for people to be able to use these frequencies. So the thinking as to how to get the UHF frequencies in use is not working. All the people who keep yammering and bleating that the code barrier is the threat to amateur frequency allocations because it poses a barrier to getting technical people into the hobby can sit down and re-think their position. The problem of getting more activity on the UHF bands has been around since the technician license was implemented. Remember when the Tech first went in? Why was it instituted? To get more activity on the high bands. Which it did -- as long as there were appliances for the bands in question. Then along comes the no-code Tech. And we have more activity; but again, only on the bands for which there are appliances. Now the threat to the UHF and SHF bands is greater than ever has been, and the code issue isn't there. The no-code Tech license test is hardly what I would call a challenge to any EE who can read a 50-page summary of the regulations and band plans. The cost of parts is cheaper and they are more available then ever before, test equipment for the frequencies in question is available in surplus at prices heretofor only dreamed of, and yet, I can tune across the low end of 432 and hear.... silence. And not to let the pro-code proponents slide by without their due: the idea that the code test(s) are a barrier to keeping out the riff-raff is proven false, time and again. When I tune across the HF phone bands recently, I can't help but wonder what happened to the ham community to allow these sorts of lids (yes, there is a word we don't hear often anymore) to continue operating. Quite frankly, what is really at issue in the ham radio hobby has little to do with whether we have code tests or cheap appliances available for unused bands, but that would get me up on a soapbox for megs worth of typing. dsa From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:08:00 1996 From: jwkelley@e4e.oac.uci.edu (James W. KELLEY) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy Subject: Re: Wake Up Call! Date: 13 Mar 1996 19:12:14 GMT Message-ID: <4i76me$88p@news.service.uci.edu> References: <4i2onb$6m3$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> <4i4ur2$p2b@usenet.pa.dec.com> Hans, Gary, and Todd have posted articles on the subject of occupying the upper regions of the amateur spectrum. Nice thread Hans. In reply: Oscar 13D will be an exciting addition to the tools we have within our reach on UHF+ frequencies. The problem with the current link frequencies (and satellite down-link power) is that the requisite antennas are very large, and the radios are very expensive. From what I understand, the new Oscar will have links on 1.2 GHz and 2.4 GHz as well as 2 m and 440 (and others), and will have greater power output. These new prospects for DX above 30 MHZ should raise the excitement level a bit. This, coupled with the fact that, out here in California at least, HOA's are now required by state law to allow the installation of the smaller types of satellite dishes! So what if it's got a Yagi in front of it! hi hi We'll be able to get some gain on these upper frequencies without having to use huge arrays of 15 element Yagi antennas, mounted on 1 KB (kilobuck) heavy duty az/el rotators. The smaller antennas _might_ let us get away with a couple of radio shack TV rotators instead. And they are certainly something we can put up without drawing the attention of the FAA. Let's face it, none of our neighbors really want to live next door to a guy with a 100' tower, mounted with beam antennas for every band. We can't expect government to legislate away this fact. But UHF+/microwave frequencies, their correspondingly small antennas, low power, and the potential for DX without HF privileges looks to me like a good bet for increasing activity in the near future because of it's accessibility. The "band openings" are certainly more predictable. Satellite DX is do-able now, but it should become easier and less expensive. An increase in the demand for microwave products will eventually lead to an increase in the supply, and then perhaps a decrease in pricing will follow. Once we begin to see the equipment appear in the amateur radio catalogs, it'll be off and running. We need to see more people carrying Mini-Circuits RF modulators, balanced mixers, amplifiers and filters in stock for example, because it's difficult to imagine a whole lot of home brew strip line PC board fabrication being done successfully. At present, most the home-brew projects found in the ARRL handbooks are not very well suited to the needs of a blossoming technology, but we have seen this begin to change. Until now, the satellite and microwave crowds have each been considered a kind of sub-culture within amateur radio. With the advent of Oscar 13D (let's keep our fingers crossed), perhaps it's time to bring the activities of these very creative groups more into the mainstream. These guys already know how to assemble simple transceivers from off-the-shelf hybrid components, and have done the ground breaking work. It would seem that since the super high bands are there waiting, and that DX communications on them is becoming a reality, we need to draw up a map and plot a course for amateur radio that will allow more hams to find their way to them. I'm sure that others can think of more inventive ways of using the upper reaches of the spectrum, but I think that if microwave satellite DX were more accessible to the average ham, it would be a very popular new avenue. 73 Jim, KE6JPO From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:08:01 1996 From: cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Christopher K Greenhalgh) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Wake Up Call! Date: 14 Mar 1996 18:10:22 GMT Message-ID: <4i9nee$gof@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <4i9ai2$5i6$1@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> In article <4i9ai2$5i6$1@mhafc.production.compuserve.com>, Hans Brakob K0HB <71111.260@CompuServe.COM> wrote: >With all due respect to your opinion, we already know the >PROBLEMS. Can we direct our attention, in a good-faith >cooperative manner, to SOLUTIONS in this thread? >-- >73, de Hans, K0HB Hans, I seem to read an awful lot from you. Mostly opinions and YOUR interpatation of discussed rules and regs. Many do not agree with you, but you always proclaim to be correct. This of course is fine...it is not my aim to attack or flame you, but simply to ask a question... Are you posting for yourself, or the ARRL? Thanks om, & take care. :) -- Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT Computer/Electronic Tech. II at The Ohio State University E-Mail: ckg+@osu.edu (cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) Radio : n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:08:02 1996 From: Zack Lau Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy Subject: Re: Wake Up Call! Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 09:58:31 -0500 Message-ID: <314D7A17.6AA4@arrl.org> References: <4i2onb$6m3$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> <4i4ur2$p2b@usenet.pa.dec.com> <4i76me$88p@news.service.uci.edu> <1996Mar16.151605.7224@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Gary Coffman wrote: > > Since the antennas spend most of their time looking up, tall towers > aren't mandatory. And antennas for UHF/SHF can certainly be smaller, > but not yet in the DBS 18 inch class for P3D. To take advantage of > really small antennas and low power, we're going to have to do what > the DBS people have done, go all digital. We already see the promise > of that with the microsats. Briefcase stations can be used to access > those satellites *right now*. The DBS 18 inch dish should do just fine for 2.4 GHz. Actually, with a good preamp it will even work for Oscar 13's experimental transponder. Back when it flew 2.4 GHz was real exotic territory. These days you can buy a 2.4 GHz transceiver from Icom (the IC-970 with optional band module). Actually, what the DBS people have really done is to run high power. We could do the same--a tiny quadrifilar helix will work just fine with 100 watts. A water cooled 2C39 easily does 100 watts on 1269 MHz. But, from a safety standpoint, lower power and a bigger antenna makes much more sense. Zack KH6CP/1 From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:08:03 1996 From: padawer@usit.net (Randy Padawer) Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: WANTED--Speaker for Radio Shack DX-160 Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 12:49:11 -0500 Message-ID: I'm looking for someone's old speaker for the Radio Shack Realistic DX-160. (No flames, please... It's not my primary receiver, heh.) If anyone has such a unit, please email me at padawer@usit.net Thanks! Randy Padawer, WA4FJF padawer@usit.net -------------------------------------------------------------------- Randy Padawer, P.O. Box 1167, Knoxville, TN 37901-1167 U.S.of A Internet: padawer@usit.net AOL: Ad Randy Tel.: (423) 637-7263 Department of Psychology, University of Tennessee, Knoxville, Tenn. -------------------------------------------------------------------- From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:08:03 1996 From: mlamb@sunny.ncmc.cc.mi.us (ML., Michigan, USA) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: WANTED: Ftp uploading test partner Date: Thu, 14 Mar 96 20:03:14 GMT Message-ID: <4i9tm7$fm5@aug2.augsburg.edu> Calling any station, Do any hams have time to test ftp uploading. I have WS_FTP and want to test whether or not it can upload a small one line .txt file to your IP address. Downloads work great, uploads is where the problems start. Let me know via email if you can help a fellow ham out 73, KB8VBA From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:08:04 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: davidm@hous.inmet.com (David Martin) Subject: WANTED: SCANNER AND RADIO MODS Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 19:31:40 GMT All: Where can I find a REALLY good collection of Radio and Scanner modifications? David From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:08:05 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: "Donald J. Bensch Sr." Subject: Re: WANTED: SCANNER AND RADIO MODS Message-ID: <314E2FE6.65A5@uoft02.utoledo.edu> References: Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 03:54:14 GMT David Martin wrote: > > All: > > Where can I find a REALLY good collection of Radio and Scanner > modifications? > > David ftp://ftp.cs.buffalo.edu/pub/ham-radio/mods/ ftp://oak.oakland.edu/pub/hamradio/mods/ gopher://hamster.business.uwo.ca Try these sites... If you come across any more please send back the URL's. Don (N8YIR) From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:08:06 1996 From: stubstad@ix.netcom.com(S) Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,alt.radio.pirate,aus.radio,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,uk.radio.amateur Subject: Re: Weird Radio Problem Date: 17 Mar 1996 00:54:20 GMT Message-ID: <4ifnrs$aol@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> References: In petern@terraport.net (Peter Neidhardt) writes: I intermittenly pickup actual radio >transmissions from overhead commercial airliners. Does anyone have any idea what causes this? I thought >Commerical Airline bands were totally different and not even close to the >FM bands. You are receiving civilian air comms on the image frequency of your FM RX. The civ air band is 108-136 MHz. Your FM RX tunes 88-108 and probably uses a LO at (88->108)+ 10.7 MHz to convert down to an IF at approximately 10.7 MHz. This means that strong air signals at approximately 2*10.7=21.4 MHz above the tuned FM band frequency will come in. Your radio is an FM RX, the air comms are AM, so audio may be distorted or noisy. Example...if a local tower uses say 120.1 MHz, you might hear it at about 98.7. Jim From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:08:07 1996 From: 100260.3353@compuserve.com (Gary, DJ0MEQ) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Weird Radio Problem Date: 17 Mar 1996 12:19:10 GMT Message-ID: <4igvvu$4i6@dub-news-svc-1.compuserve.com> References: >> Does anyone have any idea what causes this? I thought Commercial Airline bands were totally different and not even close to the FM bands. << How close do you live to an airport? Maybe it is a harmonic that your radio is picking up. Gary, DJ0MEQ -- 73 de Gary, DJ0MEQ PBBS: DJ0MEQ@DB0HB.#HH.DEU.EU Locator: JO43XO From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:08:08 1996 From: jlundgre@delta1.deltanet.com (John Lundgren) Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,alt.radio.pirate,aus.radio,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,uk.radio.amateur Subject: Re: Weird Radio Problem Date: 19 Mar 1996 01:03:11 GMT Message-ID: <4il14f$1jj@news02.deltanet.com> References: <4iisa8$638@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> I don't think there is any point in trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. He should go get a decent radio receiver rather than try to patch up a poor one. Also, it may help more to decrease the signal strength rather than increase it. Anthony O. Cardenas ~ WA6IGJ (cardenas@kaiwan.com) penned: : petern@terraport.net (Peter Neidhardt) wrote: : >I own a cheap General Electric boombox... I am on a certain FM channel : > I intermittenly pickup actual radio transmissions from overhead commercial : >airliners... : ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^snip -to-fit^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ : Paul, : The aircraft band is right next door to broadcast fm music band. ADD your : fm receiver's 'IF'- frequency (some times 20.x MHz or 10.xMHz) and with a : strong enough signal from a aircraft right overhead, you may get a "mix". : Your aircraft can 'mix' with your desired station +'IF' and there you : have it. Often even more magic is involved... where two signals transmitt : at the same time and mix down to your fm receiver. Infact there is a very : obscure program (no I don't have it) that calculates where the offending : signals are and next is to build a filter to trap out at least one of the : offenders. : The cure? Add a external FM Antenna... the better fm antennas look much : like a TV Antenna, except the elements are almost all the same length... : Use 300 ohm 'twin-line' to feed the signal to the set. Twist the : twin-line as it passes from antenna, all the way to the set. : What? No screw terminals for the two wires? Then try a random 'long : wire' antenna with a alligator clip on the business end and clip it to : your whip antenna! You may need to move the long wire around till you find : the best signal. This should provide a stronger signal from you FM station : and hopefully swamp the front-end with 'desired' signal. : Weinguard makes a FM PASS filter (75 ohm coax 'f' fittings)... this signal : loves the FM Brodcast band and tries it's best to reject other signals : above and below the band. Cost, about $12, retail. I can't vouch for the : quality of a Radio Shack equiv. More elabroate 'tunable' 'notch' filters : can be had, but for lot's more money for one of quality. : Hope this helps! : Tony : WA6IGJ -- #======P=G=P==k=e=y==a=v=a=i=l=a=b=l=e==u=p=o=n==r=e=q=u=e=s=t======# | John Lundgren - Elec Tech - Info Tech Svcs. | jlundgre@ | | Rancho Santiago Community College District | deltanet.com | | 17th St at Bristol \ Santa Ana, CA 92706 | http://rsc.rancho| | My opinions are my own, and not my employer's. | .cc.ca.us | | Most FAQs are available through Thomas Fine's WWW FAQ archive: | |http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu:80/hypertext/faq/usenet/FAQ-List.html| | "You can flame your brains out -- it won't take long." | #===T=u=z=l=a==C=o=m=p=a=n=y=.=.===t=h=r=e=e='=s==L=e==C=r=o=w=d=!==# From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:08:11 1996 Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave From: grohe@galaxy.nsc.com (Paul Grohe) Subject: Re: Weird Radio Problem Message-ID: <314e712d.11687875@139.187.128.43> Reply-To: grohe@galaxy.nsc.com References: <4idjm1$f0c@madeline.INS.CWRU.Edu> <314D9822.371D@vertex.ucls.uchicago.edu> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 09:52:05 GMT Whoa guys! We all agree that it is an image. That's a given! But putting a bigger antenna on it won't help! If you were standing next to a jet engine, would you cup your ears to hear it better? Or would you cover your ears? If it *is* causing non-linearities in the front-end, overloading it even more is not going to help (why do you think they put the -20dB switch on good receivers?). Try *collapsing* the antenna, or move it around. I know it sounds strange, but it does work. I lived directly under the path of SFO's main runway for 20 years and I have experienced almost every type of interference from airplanes. Cheap radios always received them. With high quality receivers, you usually would hear a slight drop in audio level. Like the noise, you just have to live with it. Cheap RFI filters simply don't work. The tuners front end contains the resonant circuit which is supposed to favor the intended signal (101.7) and reject the un-intended ones (123.1). In cheap radios, this circuit is not very good, so the rejection (selectivity) goes to pieces. The quality of the IF stages also has a lot to do with it. If the radio has a image rejection of 20dB, that means that the airplane signal has to be at least 100 times more powerful than the FM station to "break through". Easy to do when the airplane is right above your head and the FM station is 10 miles away! Capture ratio sez it only takes a dB or two to override the intended signal. And it does it! Your best bet is to try another radio. Some *are* better than others. On Mon, 18 Mar 1996 11:06:42 -0600, in newsgroup rec.radio.scanner, Isaac Kohn from Ripco Communications, Inc. thoughtfully posted: >There is a small, minor detail: Air transmissions were AM, last time I > checked! They still are! >How does an FM receiver with poor-selectivity receive AM > transmissions??? FM detectors are capable of detecting AM signals through "Slope Detection". In a nutshell: If you tune a FM detector off to one side, you can detect AM. When a FM detector is tuned "dead-on", it will have the most AM rejection. When it is tuned off resonance, to where the signal is now riding up-and-down on the steeper outer slopes of the detector curve, you create an AM detector (the detector curve is "bell" shaped) Some cheap one IC AM/FM radios use the same detector for both AM & FM, utilizing slope detection (Note that you have to disable any AFT circuits, as they will attempt to follow the signal and keep it centered). Cheers, Paul Grohe --------------------------------------------------------------- Paul Grohe National Semiconductor Corp. Sr. Electronics Technician 2900 Semiconductor Drive AMPS New Products Eng Group Mail Stop C2693 Mailto:grohe@galaxy.nsc.com Santa Clara, CA. 95052-8090 USA (408) 721-7389 Tel (408) 721-2513 Fax Usenet Disclaimer: Any opinions expressed are mine, not NSC's http://www.national.com For technical assistance, literature, or samples call: NORTH AMERICA EUROPE (800) 272-9959 (49) 814 110-3720 mailto:support@tevm2.nsc.com mailto:cnjwge@tevm2.nsc.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:08:12 1996 From: dg715@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David Mark) Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,alt.radio.pirate,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,uk.radio.amateur Subject: Re: Weird Radio Problem Date: 16 Mar 1996 05:30:41 GMT Message-ID: <4idjm1$f0c@madeline.INS.CWRU.Edu> References: Reply-To: dg715@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David Mark) Commercial airline frequencies are just above the statndard FM broadcast band. Your radio probably has a "cheap" tuner that doesn't just zero in on the desired frequency, but is subject to interference on nearby frequencies when a transmitter operating on those nearby frequencies is nearby (gee...how many more times could I squeeze the word "nearby" into that sentence?). What's happening is your radio is probably tuned to an FM station near the upper end of the band (around 107-108mhz) and you're probably under a flight path. When a plane is nearby (there's that word again) and the pilot transmits on one of the lower airline frequencies, your radio's less than discriminating tuner picks it up. -- (DAVID MARK) dg715@cleveland.freenet.edu From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:08:13 1996 From: bigd@mail.atw.fullfeed.com (Dennis Nuetzel) Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,alt.radio.pirate,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,uk.radio.amateur Subject: Re: Weird Radio Problem Date: Tue, 19 Mar 96 15:26:05 GMT Message-ID: <4imjob$46g@ray.atw.fullfeed.com> References: >There is a small, minor detail: Air transmissions were AM, last time I >checked! How does an FM receiver with poor-selectivity receive AM >transmissions??? If close enough, it will. I have picked up CB radio transmissions (Also AM) on a nearby FM reciever. > From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:08:14 1996 From: Michael J Wooding Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,alt.radio.pirate,aus.radio,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,uk.radio.amateur Subject: Re: Weird Radio Problem Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 20:14:59 +0000 Distribution: world Message-ID: References: In article , Peter Neidhardt writes >Does anyone have any idea what causes this? I thought >Commerical Airline bands were totally different and not even close to the >FM bands. I probably won't know the exact answer due to your location not being in my area! However, are you in the proximity of an AGA (Air-Ground-Air) station, used by Air Traffic Control for AGA communication? If so then it is simple breakthrough, as we tend to use quite high powers. If you do not then I would put the radio up for auction, or patent it! Regards ... Mike Michael J Wooding vhf-comm@g6iqm.demon.co.uk - CompuServe: 100441,377 WWW: http://www.eolas.co.uk/ag/vhfcomm.htm (hambits.htm & hamclip.htm) WWW: http://www.clearlight.com/~vhfcomm Tel: (0)1788 890365 Fax: (0)1788 891883 KM Publications, 5 Ware Orchard, Barby, Nr.Rugby, CV23 8UF, UK VHF Communications Magazine - Especially Covering VHF, UHF and Microwaves From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:08:15 1996 From: Michael J Wooding Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,alt.radio.pirate,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,uk.radio.amateur Subject: Re: Weird Radio Problem Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 19:54:07 +0000 Distribution: world Message-ID: References: In article <314D9822.371D@vertex.ucls.uchicago.edu>, Isaac Kohn writes >checked! How does an FM receiver with poor-selectivity receive AM >transmissions??? Slope detection Mike Michael J Wooding vhf-comm@g6iqm.demon.co.uk - CompuServe: 100441,377 WWW: http://www.eolas.co.uk/ag/vhfcomm.htm (hambits.htm & hamclip.htm) WWW: http://www.clearlight.com/~vhfcomm Tel: (0)1788 890365 Fax: (0)1788 891883 KM Publications, 5 Ware Orchard, Barby, Nr.Rugby, CV23 8UF, UK VHF Communications Magazine - Especially Covering VHF, UHF and Microwaves From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:08:16 1996 From: "J. Guy Stalnaker" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave Subject: Re: Weird Radio Problem Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 20:48:42 -0600 Message-ID: <314F720A.59DB@students.wisc.edu> References: <4id03n$fal@gaudi.lahabra.chevron.com> Hi all: I'm a SW newbie and have found this entire thread highly instructive. But lik e any good student after a professor's lecture I have a question. Why do FM radios use t his "image frequency?" Why not use circuitry that tunes directly into the desired freque ncy? In other words, what's the image frequency used for and why? Many thanks, J. Guy Stalnaker C. Wheeler wrote: > Probably not "breakthrough" (whatever that is - a term for front end > overload?). It's most likely exlained with the answer to a common radio > license test question - What is the most common reason for hearing air > traffic on an FM broadcast receiver? Answer: IMAGE RECEPTION. This is > the text book scenerio for images. > > What's an image? (for the person who orignally asked about this). 2 > times the intermediate frequency of your receiver, plus or minus the > tuned frequency will give you the image (+/- depends on whether you have > a hi or lo IF). 10.7 MHz is a very common IF in consumer FM radios. 2 x > 10.7 = 21.4. So if you are listening to a station at 101.5 you may hear > nearby air traffic using 122.9. Or 101.5 x (2 x 10.7) = 122.9. > > The front end of the receiver should attenuate most out of band signals > before they get to the first mixer amp. But a transmitter closeby could > squeak through (OK - breakthrough). The audio level is usually pretty > low since the aviation service uses AM for voice comm but it can still be > heard on a typical FM receiver. -- ____________ -------------------------------------------------\__________/----- J. Guy Stalnaker \________/ jstalnak@students.wisc.edu \______/ \____/ Live your life so you've no regrets! \__/ ------------------------------------------------------\/---------- From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:08:18 1996 From: "C. Wheeler" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave Subject: Re: Weird Radio Problem Date: 15 Mar 1996 23:56:39 GMT Message-ID: <4id03n$fal@gaudi.lahabra.chevron.com> References: Michael J Wooding wrote: >In article , Peter >Neidhardt writes >>Does anyone have any idea what causes this? I thought >>Commerical Airline bands were totally different and not even close to the >>FM bands. Actually, they're quite close - right next to eachother. The VHF aviation service starts right where FM broadcast ends. 108 to 136 MHz. > >I probably won't know the exact answer due to your location not being in >my area! However, are you in the proximity of an AGA (Air-Ground-Air) >station, used by Air Traffic Control for AGA communication? If so then >it is simple breakthrough, as we tend to use quite high powers. > Probably not "breakthrough" (whatever that is - a term for front end overload?). It's most likely exlained with the answer to a common radio license test question - What is the most common reason for hearing air traffic on an FM broadcast receiver? Answer: IMAGE RECEPTION. This is the text book scenerio for images. What's an image? (for the person who orignally asked about this). 2 times the intermediate frequency of your receiver, plus or minus the tuned frequency will give you the image (+/- depends on whether you have a hi or lo IF). 10.7 MHz is a very common IF in consumer FM radios. 2 x 10.7 = 21.4. So if you are listening to a station at 101.5 you may hear nearby air traffic using 122.9. Or 101.5 x (2 x 10.7) = 122.9. The front end of the receiver should attenuate most out of band signals before they get to the first mixer amp. But a transmitter closeby could squeak through (OK - breakthrough). The audio level is usually pretty low since the aviation service uses AM for voice comm but it can still be heard on a typical FM receiver. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:08:20 1996 Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,alt.radio.pirate,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,uk.radio.amateur From: slwork@netcom.com (Steve Work) Subject: Re: Weird Radio Problem Message-ID: References: <4imjob$46g@ray.atw.fullfeed.com> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 17:32:53 GMT Dennis Nuetzel (bigd@mail.atw.fullfeed.com) wrote: : >There is a small, minor detail: Air transmissions were AM, last time I : >checked! How does an FM receiver with poor-selectivity receive AM : >transmissions??? : If close enough, it will. I have picked up CB radio transmissions (Also : AM) on a nearby FM reciever. "AM rejection" is a spec which applies to FM radios. It is worse on cheaper ones. The circuitry used to detect FM signals can respond to changes in the amplitude. Especially when the circuit is cheap, and under conditions where it is overloaded. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:08:21 1996 From: jlundgre@delta1.deltanet.com (John Lundgren) Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,alt.radio.pirate,aus.radio,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,uk.radio.amateur Subject: Re: Weird Radio Problem Date: 16 Mar 1996 15:33:52 GMT Message-ID: <4ien10$afe@news02.deltanet.com> References: Peter Neidhardt (petern@terraport.net) penned: : I own a cheap General Electric boombox (about a $100 in value) that is a : few years old. It works well but when I am on a certain FM channel : listening to my favourite station, I intermittenly pickup actual radio : transmissions from overhead commercial airliners. These are actual : commercial airline communiques to the tower and back. I know it is : because the pilot states the airline and other info. like heading and : other number jumbo stuff. This is a simple radio with no short wave or : any extra bells or whistles and it works well except for the fact that : every so often it interupts the music and I hear aircraft communication : messages. Does anyone have any idea what causes this? I thought : Commerical Airline bands were totally different and not even close to the : FM bands. : Thanks greatly! : Peter Commercial airline freqs are right above the FM band. Your radio is receiving an image freq and detecting it even to it's AM and not FM. The airplane is probably really close, maybe overhead. Image freqs work something like this. The IF of the radio is 10.7 MHz, but let's just use 10 MHz. The radio station is at 100 MHz. The IF is 10, so the local oscillator is at 110 MHz. The receiver can receive at both the sum and difference of the two, so it can receive at either 100 MHz or 120 MHz. The 120 MHz is (somewhat) tuned out by the receiver's tuned circuits leaving the 100 MHz. But sometimnes the receiver doesn't do the tuning too well. And sometimes the unwanted transmitter is real close, so it gets thru anyway. If youre using the built-in rabbit ears, make sure they are fully extended. If you are always in a certain area, the location may be affecting the reception of your fav FM station, so try to maximize the signal by changing the location. You could also try reducing the signal strength by putting the antenna in the collapsed position. Maybe one of these might help enough to eliminate your problem. Another boombox might help, too. I bought some cheap soundesign radio in a bargain pack along with a flashlight and some batteries. I liked it because it received both FM and TV. But the receiver is atrocious, and receives all sorts of images of who knows what. It really sucks, but what can one expect when buying a radio and flashlight with batteries for twenty bucks? Not much, I guess. The Renewal batteries suck, too. They try to nail you later for the cost of the recharger! Forget it. -- #======P=G=P==k=e=y==a=v=a=i=l=a=b=l=e==u=p=o=n==r=e=q=u=e=s=t======# | John Lundgren - Elec Tech - Info Tech Svcs. | jlundgre@ | | Rancho Santiago Community College District | deltanet.com | | 17th St at Bristol \ Santa Ana, CA 92706 | http://rsc.rancho| | My opinions are my own, and not my employer's. | .cc.ca.us | | Most FAQs are available through Thomas Fine's WWW FAQ archive: | |http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu:80/hypertext/faq/usenet/FAQ-List.html| | "You can flame your brains out -- it won't take long." | #===T=u=z=l=a==C=o=m=p=a=n=y=.=.===t=h=r=e=e='=s==L=e==C=r=o=w=d=!==# From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:08:23 1996 From: jshaffer@mail.csrlink.net (Jim Shaffer, Jr.) Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave Subject: Re: Weird Radio Problem Date: Thu, 21 Mar 96 01:14:13 Message-ID: <19960321.7A374D8.13F1@localhost.UUCP> References: <314D9822.371D@vertex.ucls.uchicago.edu> In article <314D9822.371D@vertex.ucls.uchicago.edu> Isaac Kohn writes: > There is a small, minor detail: Air transmissions were AM, last time I > checked! How does an FM receiver with poor-selectivity receive AM > transmissions??? All you need to do to decode an AM signal is rectify it. Any transistor junction can act as a diode junction under the right circumstances. I know someone who gets nearby CB signals on his CD player -- no RF circuits at all, it's being picked up in the audio amp. -- * From the disk of: | jshaffer@mail.csrlink.net | "there's a hell of Jim Shaffer, Jr. | NOTICE: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ // | a good universe 37 Brook Street | I've changed // | next door; let's go" Montgomery, PA 17752 | Internet providers. \\// | (e.e. cummings) From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:08:24 1996 From: rst-engr@oro.net (Jim Weir) Newsgroups: alt.radio.pirate,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,uk.radio.amateur Subject: Re: Weird Radio Problem Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 18:12:50 GMT Message-ID: <4is68q$h12@hg.oro.net> References: <4idjm1$f0c@madeline.INS.CWRU.Edu> <314D9822.371D@vertex.ucls.uchicago.edu> Michael J Wooding shared the following priceless pearls of wisdom: >In article <314D9822.371D@vertex.ucls.uchicago.edu>, Isaac Kohn > writes >>checked! How does an FM receiver with poor-selectivity receive AM >>transmissions??? >Slope detection >Mike Ummm...I came within a couple of milliseconds of falling into that same trap. Slope detection works for listening to FM on an AM rig; going the other way around requires imbalance in the ratio detector or discriminator -- not hard to do on a cheapie radio where the diode bridge are random diodes thrown into the board. Jim Jim Weir VP Engineering | You bet your sweet patootie I speak for the RST Engineering | company. If I don't, ain't nobody gonna. Grass Valley CA 95945 | http://www.rst-engr.com | AR Adv WB6BHI--FCC 1/C phone--Cessna 182A N73CQ rst-engr@oro.net | Commercial/CFI-Airplane/Glider-----A&P Mechanic From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:08:25 1996 From: sscherme@capecod.net (Skid Schermerhorn, W1TTY) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: What do you need for a 2 meter repeater Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 17:17:03 GMT Message-ID: <4ipem3$5tm@alpha.pcix.com> References: <199603191518.HAA09551@bing.ncw.net> Reply-To: sscherme@capecod.net glass@televar.COM (JA Glasscock) wrote: >Does any body know what I need for starting a repeater, equipment wise? I >want it to have an autopatch, and CTCSS tones to access it. >_________________________________________ >| Vance Glasscock | >| email @ glass@televar.com | >| with Vance Ham in the subject line | >----------------------------------------- Start by ordering a book from ARRL. "VHF Companion" for $8 + $4 S&H. Tells about repeaters and where to get stuff. 73 From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:08:25 1996 From: sscherme@capecod.net (Skid Schermerhorn, W1TTY) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Where do I send 610 form? Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 17:24:27 GMT Message-ID: <4ipf41$5tm@alpha.pcix.com> References: Reply-To: sscherme@capecod.net mikedocy@netcom.com (Michael Docy) wrote: >Please tell me the address of the FCC to send my >610 form. All it has on the 610 form is: >Federal Communications Commission >Gettysburg, Pennsylvania >It seems that there should at least be a zip code. >I tried http://www.fcc.gov but no luck finding any info. >Thanks, >Mike N8MIB FCC 1270 Fairfield Road Gettysburg Pennsyvania 17325-7245 73 From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:08:26 1996 From: ka_strom@ix.netcom.com(Kevin Alfred Strom) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Windmill Towers? Date: 19 Mar 1996 09:40:14 GMT Message-ID: <4ilvdu$aj@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> Has anyone here ever disassembled / re-erected a windmill tower as an antenna support or shunt-fed radiator? They are very common around here in the Minnesota countryside and I suspect they could be had for a song. I like their fat footprint and built-in ladder, for obvious reasons, but I might be overlooking some problems. I am most interested in your thoughts! Thanks, Kevin WB4AIO in Rochester, Minnesota From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:08:27 1996 From: jstroppe@uhl.uiowa.edu (John Stroppel) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Windmill Towers? Date: 20 Mar 1996 17:26:06 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <4ipf3e$11be@flood.weeg.uiowa.edu> References: <4ilvdu$aj@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> <4ioequ$4pd@dfw-ixnews1.ix.netcom.com> Around here there were even some till-over towers. These had a pivot point about in the center. Lowered the head down to work on. I saw one an tried to get it, but was on gov. land and the guy at Core of Eng. said it would take an act of congress to get it. ( probably a buck and the right guy) John WA0VYZ -- John Stroppel | Internet: jstroppe@uhl.uiowa.edu The University of Iowa - Hygienic Lab | Amateur Radio: WA0VYZ Oakdale Research Campus, OH-M7A | Voice: (319) 335-4500 Iowa City, IA 52242 | Fax: (319) 335-4555 From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:08:28 1996 From: "A. john Gainsborough" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Wisconsin Hamfests ? Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 17:42:12 -0500 Message-ID: <31474F44.128A@gsfc.nasa.gov> A friend of mine travels regularly to Wisconsin and is interested in attending hamfests in that part of the country. Any suggestions that I could pass on to him? 73, John KM6LJ From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:08:29 1996 From: Mike - KB9LPJ Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Wisconsin Hamfests ? Date: 14 Mar 1996 16:04:10 GMT Message-ID: <4i9g1q$gh2@bucky.win.bright.net> "A. john Gainsborough" writes: > A friend of mine travels regularly to Wisconsin and is interested in > attending hamfests in that part of the country. Any suggestions that I > could pass on to him? > > 73, John KM6LJ Sir: I know of a hamfest in Superior WI on May 4. Here is the Info as printed in QST: Wisconsin Superior - May 4, 9am to 2pm. Sponsor: Arrowhead RAC. Multi Purpose Bldg, I-35 to US-2, Bong Bridge, left on Belknap, right on Tower, approx 2mi to Fairgrounds on left. VE session. Talk in 146.94/34. Admission $4 If you need more info send me a e-mail. TNX 73's >> Mike DE KB9LPJ From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:08:30 1996 From: rew5808 Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.cb Subject: wtb: allied, lafayette, and heathkit catalogs Date: 13 Mar 1996 23:55:46 GMT Message-ID: <4i7na2$e41@ferengi.prismnet.com> looking for some hams to help me locate electronics catalogs from the mid 50's to mid 60's. especially ALLIED ELECTRONICS, LAFAYETTE RADIO ELECTRONICS, and heathkit. as a sidelite, i would also like to acquire a built or unbuilt 100mw "Knight Kit" CB walkie talkie (from Allied Electronics i think). It is from about 1959 or 1960, case is blue, 4-transistor. any help????? bobby wb5wur From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:08:30 1996 From: PZUK66A@prodigy.com (Dennis Bell) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: WTB: Heathkit HD-8999 Keyboard Date: 17 Mar 1996 22:09:39 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <4ii2j3$850@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> I'm looking for a Heathkit CW Keyboard. If you have one, or know someone that no longer needs theirs, PLEASE.. Email pzuk66a@prodigy.com Dennis..N0SAI..Colo. TNX/73 From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:08:31 1996 From: asperges@innotts.co.uk (Jeremy Boot) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: WWW Radio Pages Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 21:44:49 GMT Message-ID: <31488b5a.15843314@news.innotts.co.uk> Reply-To: asperges@innotts.co.uk It nearly drove me mad doing it. It might not work on your browser, but it does on mine (Netscape Gold 2): http://www.innotts.co.uk/~asperges/ Radio Pages - now with ADDED Java! Enjoy, as they say..... Jeremy G4NJH asperges@innotts.co.uk [Home, Am Radio, SWL pages: http://www.innotts.co.uk/~asperges/ ] From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:08:32 1996 From: byrnes@fc.hp.com (John Byrnes) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Yaesu FT-11R ... any Date: 19 Mar 1996 18:20:39 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <4imttn$8et@fcnews.fc.hp.com> References: <35.41952.1427@asacomp.com> Reply-To: byrnes@fc.hp.com Mike Anderson (mike.anderson@asacomp.com) wrote: > I, too, am an FT-11R owner, and like it. It did, however, die one > day. Fortunately it was under warranty and Yaesu replaced the CPU. > Works fine now. As to the subaudible tones, I didn't know if you > had CTCSS decode you could adjust the modulation. How do you do > that? If you have the optional FTS-26 board ($59), you can somehow adjust the modulation from the keyboard (according to Yaesu Tech Support), but I don't have the board or the documentation. > I don't think I have a problem with too much modulation however. If people don't report that you have a "hum", then you're probably okay. Ask someone, they may just think you're driving a diesel :-) And try it on simplex since your local repeater may filter CTCSS. John KB0UNC From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:08:33 1996 From: cnord@mail.snet.net (Carl H Nord) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment Subject: Re: Yaesu FT-11R ... anyone use this radio? Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 03:36:30 GMT Message-ID: <4i7pi3$2cfq@CT1.SNET.Net> References: <4i55f3$dqv@sundog.tiac.net> Reply-To: cnord@mail.snet.net bspring@tiac.net wrote: >Hello all, > I was wondering if anyone has used or owned the Yaesu FT-11R HT? >Because of the great advice I received from other hams from this newsgroup, >I have decided to get an HT. Had a few questions: >Any significant intermod problems? Batt problems? Can I use an external >mike, antenna, etc? >Thanks for any help! I love mine. It is probably the 6th or 7th HT I have owned and by far my favorite. It is a nice size, covers the entire Aircraft and commercial VHF bands, and just works well. It has a lot of functions and you will simplify your life greatly if you spring for the ADMS-1 computor inerface. Carl WA1KPD >73's... >- Bill > bspring@tiac.net From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 14:08:34 1996 From: jospav@eworld.com (Jospav) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment Subject: Re: Yaesu FT-11R ... anyone use this radio? Date: 14 Mar 1996 20:50:21 -0800 Message-ID: <4iasud$21k@hp5.online.apple.com> References: <4i9nnu$2gk@fcnews.fc.hp.com> Reply-To: jospav@eworld.com (Jospav) Unless you really need the aircraft recieve of the ft-11, I would say you should be looking at the ft-10. It has encode and decode of ctcss and man other cool options such as a voice recorder that can be set to record automatically after a page and respond with a prerecorded message etc. There are just tons more features in the ft-10, some of which can be had on an ft-11 as options, but that will make the ft-11 cost even more. As it is now, the ft-10 is about $20-$30 cheaper where I have seen it, and it has more than the ft-11 for that price. Oh, forgot the ft-10 is also the first amateur HT to have a mil spec rating. Just my 3 cents worth Josh From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:38:58 1996 From: pacrimgolf@saba.kuentos.guam.net (Jim Kehler) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: "C" in CW Date: 23 Mar 1996 05:40:32 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <4j02sg$rua@lehi.kuentos.guam.net> References: <3150D0F2.A06@loop.com> Howard (ke6pbl@loop.com) wrote: : Problem: Is the letter "C" dah dit dah dit ? I recently passed my 5wpm : code test, and on my way to 13wpm. But, 1 letter continuously bothers : me....the letter "C" !!!! My brother is an oldtimer Extra, but doesn't : seem to understand the problem. It is the rhythm that throws me. It : seems like there is a very slight, but distracting, pause after the first : dah, so I usually copy it as "tr". Obviously a very subtle pause? : - -. -..- -.. . -.- . -.... .--. -... .-.. : -- Yep, it's _._. Shouldn't be any 'subtle' pauses, but depending on who's sending......... If you are listening to machine sent code, you are imagining the pause. Congatulations on the 5 wpm, and good luck on the 13. Jim, KH2D From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:38:59 1996 From: wa3key@fast.net Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: "Virtual Collins Radio Museum" web site Date: 18 Mar 1996 03:01:25 GMT Message-ID: <4iijm5$9kb@nn.fast.net> Just a note to let everyone know that the WA3KEY "Virtual Collins Radio Museum" web site us up and running. There's still come construction going on so don't mind the sawdust. Here's the URL http://www.users.fast.net/~wa3key/collins.html Any commments or suggestions are welcome. Enjoy. 73 de Norm - WA3KEY From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:38:59 1996 From: w2ehd@aol.com (W2EHD) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: 1.2 gHz Repeaters - need operator info. and experiences Date: 21 Mar 1996 08:33:11 -0500 Message-ID: <4irlqn$rch@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: w2ehd@aol.com (W2EHD) Some of us in the NE corner of New Jersey are investigating the possibility of setting up a 1.2 gHz repeater. We have the site but no equipment, at this point. We are soliciting anyone with experience on this band to give us their thoughts and suggestions. If you have any equipment available, you might note that, too. E-mail to W2EHD @aol.com or packet to w2ehd@n2imc.nj.usa.noam Many thanks - Jack W2EHD Closter NJ From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:00 1996 From: mgarrett@prairienet.org (Mark A. Garrett) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 49Mhz Radio Shack Handheld Date: 22 Mar 1996 06:06:33 GMT Message-ID: <4itg19$lvq@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <4iaohl$msc@netaxs.com> Reply-To: mgarrett@prairienet.org (Mark A. Garrett) In a previous article, god@netaxs.com (God) says: >I saw a mod in the oakland archives from a WHILE back mentioning that it was >possible to mod the radio shack 49Mhz walkie talkies for the 6 meter band. >Does anyone have any details on this? The oakland archives go dry after only a >teaser. > >thanks > Yes, the single channel units can be converted to 6 meters with a crystal change and tuneup. Crystals are fundamental X3 for transmit and for the receive is receive frequency -10.7 = fundamental. Standard 30 pf loading on the crystal and 25 temp range seem to work ok with the units. Jan crystals has supplied me with several crystals for conversion. -- Mark Garrett mgarrett@prairienet.org KA9SZX @ N9LNQ.#ECIL.IL.USA.NOAM From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:01 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: A Question From: lisa.keeton@prostar.com (Lisa Keeton) Message-ID: <0000121F00000F09@prostar.com> Date: 22 Mar 96 09:00:00 PDT I just saw this cruising across the Electronic Void: snipped to save bandwidth> BR>Used to be that if you were a ham, everyone knew you were an BR>honorable hard-working BR>person. Today a ham might be an idiot drunk who cusses all night on 75m SSB BR>with impunity BR>thanks to our toothless FCC and general societal collapse. What can be BR>next? Hmmmm... I'm a new Ham, so please excuse my naivette when I ask this, since my experiences have so far been good ones... It seems to me that, if someone doesn't want to be a party to breaking the law, they won't associate with those that do. Are you saying there are *that* many Hams out there that will converse with a 'potty mouth'? Are there that many Hams that are willing to condone this obviously illegal practice by participating in it? If the FCC can't or won't do anything about it, wouldn't it be fitting for *us* to *all* isolate these lids by *completely* ignoring them and refusing to communicate with them? Or am I so old-fasioned in thinking we can work together to make a difference that everyone will just laugh at me? Maybe I picked the wrong hobby... Lisa KC7PSZ * OLX 2.1 TD * Profanity: Linguistic crutch of inarticulate fools From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:03 1996 From: adell@planet.net ( Steve - KF2TI) Landing, NJ Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: A Question Date: 23 Mar 1996 20:00:15 GMT Message-ID: <4j1l8f$sro@jupiter.planet.net> References: <0000121F00000F09@prostar.com> > lisa.keeton@prostar.com (Lisa Keeton) writes: > > Hmmmm... I'm a new Ham, so please excuse my naivette when I > ask this, since my experiences have so far been good ones... It seems > to me that, if someone doesn't want to be a party to breaking the > law, they won't associate with those that do. Are you saying there > are *that* many Hams out there that will converse with a 'potty > mouth'? Are there that many Hams that are willing to condone this > obviously illegal practice by participating in it? If the FCC can't > or won't do anything about it, wouldn't it be fitting for *us* to > *all* isolate these lids by *completely* ignoring them and refusing > to communicate with them? > > Or am I so old-fasioned in thinking we can work together to make a > difference that everyone will just laugh at me? > > Maybe I picked the wrong hobby... > > Lisa KC7PSZ Welcome, Lisa and you bring up a very good point. You must acknowledge that n o matter how good something is there will always be the proverbial BAD APPLES...just lo ok at congress!!! For the most part, the baddies keep to them selves in several well publicized frequencies. The vast VAST majority of amateurs ignore them. It's like a repeater..you can't keep everyo ne off, so just ignore those that show poor judgement. In otherwords, you can't live without em and you can't kill 'em Enjoy the hobby, it's tons O fun 73, steve No code or KNOW code...who cares there's room enuf for everyone, even the guys from Sunny Central Florida and that piece of land named after a fishie piece of ove rclothing From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:05 1996 From: fiz Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Airport/Aircraft Regulations...here's proof of interference Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 10:25:19 -0800 Message-ID: <314DAA8F.1FE5@lamar.colostate.edu> References: <4hd526$7kp@news.one.net> <00001fef+0000415c@msn.com> <314ADAB5.5BFA@telepath.com> Steve Sampson wrote: > > Jeffrey Towle wrote: > > The regulations against using handhelds on the aircraft are > > comparable to fears about walking under ladders, or stepping on > > cracks in the sidewalk. ... > > You'd be surprised what a malfunctioning radio can produce, and still > be communicating. A friend bought one of those MFJ analyzers and was > testing everones rubber-duck. He said one of the guys antenna was an > open! It was that way for years. He said with a new antenna, the whole > dang city can be heard... > I don't think it even has to be a malfunctioning radio. Here's a real story that involved me this past weekend. I'm a pilot and like to fly gliders. I was in the 'office' of our gliderport and the office radio was tuned to 123.3 MHz (AM), our air/ground frequency. I turned my 2 meter HT on and keyed the mike to contact someone on a local repeater (147.360+). The squelch broke on the aircraft radio. My HT, in good working order, apparantly interfers with aircraft radios. The aircraft I fly have navigation receivers in the 112-116 MHz region which my HT could likely cause to go bonkers. If/when I'm instrument rated, ALL non-aircraft electronics (receivers and transmitters alike) *WILL* be turned off if I'm fly ing IFR. If the passenger doesn't like it, they can get out, right there, right th en. BTW, I was using a Larsen HT antenna thats a bit, but not much, more than a ru bber duck, its got about a 6 inch coil with a 6 inch whip on top. Will I take my passengers word their HT is in 'good working order' and 'rumors of interference are no more than like stepping on cracks in the sidewalk'...He ll no if I'm in a cloud relying on the instruments... "I'M THE PILOT IN COMMAND "... ttfn fiz (KG0YG, PP-Glider,ASEL) From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:06 1996 From: dgary@nando.net (D Gary Grady) Newsgroups: alt.usage.english,sci.lang,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Alpha Bravo phonetics: the quickie version Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 16:57:31 GMT Message-ID: <31518946.22995615@news.nando.net> References: <4in759$hrv@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Brian.Kelk@cl.cam.ac.uk wrote: >An earlier alphabet (used by U.S. Navy up to 1954): > > Able Baker Charlie Dog Easy Fox George How Item Jig King > Love Mike Nan Oboe Peter Queen Roger Sugar Tare Uncle Victor > William X-ray Yoke Zebra A holdover from this earlier alphabet can be noted in the names of "conditions" used to specify what doors and hatchers are secured for purposes of watertight integrity. During condition X-ray (the normal one) all openings labeled with an X are closed (unless they need to be opened temporarilyfor access) while the others are left open to make it easy to move about the ship. At condition Yoke, all openings labeled X and Y are closed, and at condition Zebra all doors and hatches are closed. Condition Zebra is "set" during battle stations. D Gary Grady Durham NC USA 73513.2350@compuserve.com / dgary@nando.net From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:06 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Amateur Radio/Internet Message-ID: <1996Mar13.163315.115941@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> From: Bill Date: 13 Mar 96 16:33:14 CST References: <4i02gn$nfk@newsbf02.news.aol.com> To: jjo@tekla.fi From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:08 1996 From: w1aw@arrl.org Newsgroups: rec.radio.info,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: ARLP012 Propagation de KT7H Date: 22 Mar 1996 16:54:51 -0500 Message-ID: <$arlp012.1996@arrl.org> SB PROP @ ARL $ARLP012 ARLP012 Propagation de KT7H ZCZC AP33 QST de W1AW Propagation Forecast Bulletin 12 ARLP012 From Tad Cook, KT7H Seattle, WA March 22, 1996 To all radio amateurs SB PROP ARL ARLP012 ARLP012 Propagation de KT7H Solar activity remained low, about the same level as the previous week. There was a rise in geomagnetic activity in the past few days, with K indices as high as five. Another rise in geomagnetic activity is expected around April 7 through 9 due to a recurring coronal hole. Solar flux should remain flat with little variation over the next month. Currently at the Spring equinox we are experiencing some seasonal improvement in HF communication. Too bad the solar flux isn't higher. Spring of 1998 should be much improved. Sunspot Numbers for March 7 through 13 were 17, 15, 15, 12, 11, 11 and 0, with a mean of 11.6. 10.7 cm flux was 70.8, 70.4, 71, 70.6, 70.6, 69.9 and 69.3, with a mean of 70.4. The path projections for this week are from the west coast of the U.S. to Western Europe, Southern Africa, South America, South Pacific and Japan. To Western Europe look for 80 meters to open from 0230 to 0630z, 40 meters from 0130 to 0800z and 30 meters around 2300 and 0700z. 20 meters looks good from 1500 to 2000z, and 17 meters around 1800z. To Southern Africa expect 80 to open from 0230 to 0400, 40 from 0130 to 0430, 30 from 0030 to 0230 and 0430 to 0530, 20 from 2200 to 0000, and 17 from 1700 to 1930. To South America check 80 from 0200 to 1000, 40 from 0130 to 1030, 30 from 0030 to 0800 and again from 1000 to 1130, 20 from 2130 to 0430, 17 from 1600 to 0300 and 15 from 1730 to 0100 and 12 meters from 2030 to 2200. To South Pacific 80 should open from 0530 to 1430, 40 from 0430 to 1500, 30 from 0330 to 1430, 20 around 1700 to 2000 and 0100 to 0600, 17 from 1730 to 0430, 15 from 1800 to 0300, and 12 meters from 2030 to 0100. 10 meters could have some openings over the same period as 12 meters. To Japan check 80 from 0900 to 1430, 40 from 0800 to 1530, 30 from 0630 to 1700 with a week period around 1230 to 1330, 20 from 2100 to 0500, 17 from 2130 to 0400 and 15 from 2230 to 0200. NNNN /EX From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:09 1996 From: gfoley@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Gerard Foley) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: ARRL Code Practice on 2 meters Date: 21 Mar 1996 09:55:28 -0500 Message-ID: <4irql0$79g@acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us> References: <4int53$c43@news.one.net> djmd@one.net wrote: : I have a question. : I have an FM HT and live in cincinnati, OH. Is there any way I can : listen to ARRL code practice on it? Do I need a SSB rig or am I just : too far away from W1AW? Be sure to check with local hams to see if there may be code practice sessions conducted on a local 2-meter station (probably a repeater, if anyone does it). Many places a repeater club sponsors such sessions. SSB sw receivers aren't too expensive at hamfests. You don't need a rig to get W1AW practice transmissions. GL and 73 Gerry K8EF From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:10 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: Steven Jepsen Subject: Re: ARRL in FAVOR of no-code? Message-ID: <3151961E.4D48@continet.com> Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 17:47:10 +0000 References: <4ik94t$32q@agate.berkeley.edu> <4in20j$5ql@news.service.uci.edu> <4invm3$1aj0@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com> To: Drew Durigan >>Drew Durigan wrote: > STUFF DELETED >> How about old guys who insist on demonstrating knowledge of an 1800's >> communications technology (Morse Code) in order to receive an amateur >> license with full privileges in 1996? > > Doesn't make sense to me, either. > > -Drew in Sunny Central Florida- > KF4DDM You wrote this message using an even older technology (the written word). Whic h you are required to show not just knowlege of but proficiency in to complete school. If a technology is in common use, it's age isn't important. If you don't think Morse Code is in common use, then you need a better receiver. Steve ... AI7W From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:11 1996 From: robin@zso.dec.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Car`s and EMC. Date: 20 Mar 1996 22:05:04 GMT Message-ID: <4ipveh$ro8@usenet.pa.dec.com> Hi, I have just moved to the Puget Sound Area from GM`land and need to buy a car. I like to run HF & VHF mobile and so EMC will play a part in my decision making process. I seem to recall an article in QST about a year ago, going into this in a reasonable amount of detail. o Does anyone know if there is a FAQ for this subject i.e. good and bad manufacturers? I`m not sure which way I am going to go but it will be either a SUV eg. Blazer, Explorer, Cherokee or a Sedan, like Accord or Camry does anyone have any recommendations or comments on these popular models. Any pointers or advice would be gratefully received. 73`s Robin Alexander K7/GM4YED From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:12 1996 From: bclongwell@delphi.com (Brian Longwell) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Car`s and EMC. Date: 23 Mar 1996 01:34:01 GMT Message-ID: <9603222036591.The_Win-D.bclongwell@delphi.com> I just got a Blazer. I like it, but it emits a bit of noise. I think I'll be able to get it under control with some work. Right now it's mostly annoying an masks less than strong signals on some bands. Brian Longwell WB2DSH From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:13 1996 From: "William M. Bickley KF2ON" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Central NJ Hamfest - Sunday 3/24/96 Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 09:23:24 -0500 Message-ID: <3151665C.34C0@ix.netcom.com> HAMFEST! - New Jersey (Trenton) - Delaware Valley Radio Association. Sunday, March 24th - rain or shine. Vendor setup 6:30am; public 7:30am to 2:00pm. Trenton State College Student Recreation Center - Route 31 approx. 1 mile south of I-95/Route 31 exit. Admission $5.00; Tailgaters $10.00 (includes space and admission); Inside Vendors $20.00 (includes space and admission). Free parking; refreshments; handicapped accessible. Talk-in 146.67 and 442.650. For info, call DVRA hotline at (609) 882-2240. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:14 1996 From: lenwink@indirect.com (Len Winkler) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: CW history on Radio Show Date: Fri, 22 Mar 96 19:33:20 GMT Message-ID: <4iuvbd$451@globe.indirect.com> Bette Clemons, author of Wake of the Wirelessman, will be the special guest this Sunday, 3/24/96, at 6:00pm ET, 2300utc, on the Ham Radio & More Radio Show. Bette's book discusses her father's history working for the early Marconi Company and the beginnings of CW. The show can be heard on many local stations throughout the US as well as live on WWCR shortwave, 5.065mhz. Len Winkler, KB7LPW lenwink@indirect.com P.O. Box 9219 kb7lpw@kc7y.az.usa.na Phoenix, Az. 85068-9219 Ham Radio & More Show info at: http://www.barc.org/barc/ham-more.html RealAudio site: www.tapr.org/hrm/hrm.html The show airs LIVE at 6:00pm ET on many stations throughout the country. ALSO: LIVE everywhere on WWCR shortwave, 100,000 watts, 5.065mhz, and starting 4/7/96 ALSO LIVE on 7.435mhz. The show also airs on WWCR shortwave, tape delayed at 1000utc on 7.435, on Mon days, and Saturdays at 1700utc on 12.160. Support "WOG". Written only General!!! From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:15 1996 From: "C. J. Hawley" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Dayton tailgating still available? Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 11:53:03 -0600 Message-ID: <3151977F.5A17@uiuc.edu> References: <4ipm7p$1cd@access2.digex.net> <4irvlu$rn9@nntpa.cb.att.com> Warren Ring wrote: > > In article <4ipm7p$1cd@access2.digex.net>, > John Boteler wrote: > >Don't laugh too hard, but is it too late to get a space > >at Dayton, or is it way too late? > > I heard that the swap-meet spaces are sold out. However, I also > heard that you might be able to pick up a space by asking for > one in the right newsgroup. Maybe this one. > > There must be scalpers out there someplace. By the way, the rules state that you are supposed to return the space to the hamvention for a refund. The trouble is that a friend of mine did just this last year to follow the rules, etc. and he like to never got his money back. The dummies make it so hard to follow the rules that he is never going to again. Just my input. Chuck, KE9UW From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:16 1996 From: Mike Gathergood Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Does the test involve any practical work? Date: Thu, 21 Mar 96 17:46:24 GMT Message-ID: <827430384snz@g4kfk.demon.co.uk> References: <4iossi$s3a@ccuh.wlv.ac.uk> Reply-To: Mike@g4kfk.demon.co.uk In article <4iossi$s3a@ccuh.wlv.ac.uk> d9462451@ccub.wlv.ac.uk "David" writes: > Also does the class A and B test involve any practical work. I've been told hat > you have to strip down and rebuild a radio. I know you have to get some > electrical parts. No - in order to get a Class B licence you must pass a 2-part multiple choice (or is that multiple guess?) test on theory and regulations. That's all. In order to get a Class A licence you must pass the same test, plus a 12 wpm morse test. A few hours study of the licence conditions should see you safely through part 1 (regulations). Anybody with a remotely electrical/electronic background should breeze through part 2 (theory). There's also a Novice licence which *does* involve some practical work under the guidance of an instructor, but since you've indicated that time is a problem, the full licence seems more appropriate. Good Luck! 73 Mike * QRV around 0800 and 1800 most weekdays on GB3HL * G4KFK * (Hillingdon 433.075/434.675) and also 51.83 MHz * From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:18 1996 From: ed@fore.com (Ed Bathgate) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: dont buy from REVEAL Date: 21 Mar 1996 09:00:21 -0500 Message-ID: <4irndl$o6c@baleen.fore.com> References: <9603182316.AA14257@slic.com> <31505567.2949@uvsg.com> To: Paul Reedy Roger Cole wrote: > Greetings....anyone out there know how I can E-Mail the folks at REVEAL with a > technical problem? I know they have a web page but didn't see anyplace to I spend 3 days trying to reach their tech support human, I needed an RMA# for a defective hard disk that would be out of warranty in 3 days... I must have called 50 times to hear a busy signal, finally it started ringing, rang for 12 minutes, SOMEBODY PICKED IT UP AND IMMEDIATELY HUNG UP!!! I went berzerk! I emailed every permutation of reveal.com, I was intentionally trying to spam their email and ANGER some people as to how HOW BAD THEIR RMA SYSTEM IS! and finally ended up with a name: Oscar_orta@reveal.com You can also email Postmaster@reveal.com if you dont get any response. Good luck. I FINALLY got my rma#, mailed my failed hard disk back, 25 days later I recieved a replacement drive, WHICH WAS USED!!! AND ONLY WORKED 1 WEEK AND IT TOO DIED! I went out and bought a Western Digital from a local computer dealer/servicer. I have worked in the computer industry for 8 years, and never replaced a bad Western Digital hard disk! I have pulled so many seagates and conners that I could have used them as bricks and built a dog house! 73 Ed N3SDO Ed@fore.com Ed Bathgate The opinion expressed here is mine, and not my employers! From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:18 1996 From: cogand@iconz.co.nz (Dave Cogan) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: DX GROUP RE-UNION IN SYDNEY Date: 22 Mar 1996 06:24:23 GMT Message-ID: <4ith2n$i9v@status.gen.nz> If you were a member, or know of anyone who was a member of the ham radion club "The DX Group" in the 70's let me know. There is going to be a re-union around the 14th of April. Dave Cogan email address is cogand@iconz.co.nz From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:20 1996 Message-ID: <3150554D.570E@uvsg.com> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 12:58:21 -0600 From: Paul Reedy Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc To: Roger Cole Subject: Re: E-Mail REVEAL? References: <9603182316.AA14257@slic.com> Roger Cole wrote: > > Greetings....anyone out there know how I can E-Mail the folks at REVEAL with a > technical problem? I know they have a web page but didn't see anyplace to > leave a message. Thanks....Roger Reveal was bought out by Creative Labs, try them. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:20 1996 Message-ID: <315055C1.7EE3@uvsg.com> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 13:00:17 -0600 From: Paul Reedy Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc To: Roger Cole Subject: Re: E-Mail REVEAL? References: <9603182316.AA14257@slic.com> Roger Cole wrote: > > Greetings....anyone out there know how I can E-Mail the folks at REVEAL with a > technical problem? I know they have a web page but didn't see anyplace to > leave a message. Thanks....Roger Reveal was bought out by Creative Labs, try them. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:21 1996 Message-ID: <315055DE.2724@uvsg.com> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 13:00:46 -0600 From: Paul Reedy Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc To: Roger Cole Subject: Re: E-Mail REVEAL? References: <9603182316.AA14257@slic.com> Roger Cole wrote: > > Greetings....anyone out there know how I can E-Mail the folks at REVEAL with a > technical problem? I know they have a web page but didn't see anyplace to > leave a message. Thanks....Roger Reveal was bought out by Creative Labs, try them. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:22 1996 From: "C. Wheeler" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: FCC THREAT TO INTERNET Date: 21 Mar 1996 00:10:19 GMT Message-ID: <4iq6pb$o22@gaudi.lahabra.chevron.com> References: <4idf5n$13oq@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com> VUBS79A@prodigy.com (Drew Durigan) wrote: >>The FCC is considering a petition, filed March 4, to exercise >>JURISDICTION over the INTERNET and make usage of Internet >>Telephony software ILLEGAL. > >Get a clue! The FCC has no jurisdiction over the Internet as it does not >utilize radio frequency spectrum. They cannot "create" jurisdiction over >something that is not within their domain. Here's a clue, Drew: The FCC does have jurisdiction over common carriers (which carry most internet traffic). And they set the rules as to how private networks connect to the public network. In fact the FCC probably spends as much time dealing with non radio communications issues as they do with radio. And all it takes is congress to create more jurisdication if the FCC doesn't already have it. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:23 1996 Date: 20 Mar 1996 13:10:48 EDT Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: wcoyle@dccc.edu (William Coyle) Message-ID: <8273454502402@iss.dccc.edu> Subject: For sale For sale: Radio shack HTX 202 2 meter handheld. In good condition (one small scratch on front) Have Box, not manual (can get at Radio shack) Nicad & AA cell holder, wall charger. Best offer including shipping. E-mail reply to this message. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:25 1996 From: ken.meinken@basselope.org (Ken Meinken) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Forget the Morse Code Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 13:51:00 GMT Message-ID: <960321120034969@basselope.org> Distribution: world References: <1996Mar17.020122.9068@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4hnk22$kr@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> <199 GC>From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) ..... GC>QRP operating is very stressful, you're the little yip dog surrounded GC>by a herd of hippos. It's a huge challenge because you've deliberately GC>placed yourself at a huge disadvantage. To make up for the power GC>disadvantage, you have to squeeze every last nanowatt out of your GC>antenna system and you have to outfox both the ionosphere and your GC>competitors. It's far from "simple". GC> .... GC>It seems to me that if the goal is to run minimum power, you'd want GC>to take advantage of every technique available to make the most of GC>what you have. One of the best and cheapest ways to do that is to use GC>an improved coding and modulation. Especially in the field where you'r GC>further handicapped by relatively poor antennas, it would seem that GC>taking advantage of the 13 db or more of processing gain you can achie GC>with better codes and modulations would be a big help. GC> ...... GC>Gary Gary, pardon me if I missed this, but what "codes and modulation" techniques cheaply provide 13 db of gain over cw? I also fail to understand why you feel QRP is more "stressful"...either you work somebody, or you don't, just as if you were running 100 watts, or a KW. Actually, if there is any "stress" involved, I would think it would be on the other end of the QSO, the person who is trying to copy the weak station. If I'm running 100 watts and someone running 200 mw answers my CQ, I'm the one working hard to copy them through the noise. The QRP op probably has armchair copy. 73, Ken WA8JXM --- WinQwk 2.0 a#0 From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:26 1996 From: alt.radio <102745.360@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: FS MFJ 941D Tuner Date: 20 Mar 1996 00:13:05 GMT Message-ID: <4iniih$ba5$1@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> Sir for misprint. This is a 941D Versa Tuner 300W. Jeff/WB3DLG 203-748-4096. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:27 1996 From: kovar@zeus.ia.net (Jack Kovar KE0AX) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: FT-51r lost it's brains ??? Date: 21 Mar 1996 19:20:42 GMT Message-ID: <4isa6a$8ae@hera.ia.net> Anyone else have problems with FT51r loosing it's memories???? I have two of them and they get miminal use. not sure of a trend yet. One has transmitt mod and one not touched yet. The one with the transmit mod has lost its memories a few times. The one without mod have worked fine. Anyone else have similar problems? Anyone turn on radio and reset memories by mistake? Wife uses memory loss radio. Could be related to the memory loss I had when I forgot her birthday! PLEASE REPLY WITH YOUR EXPERIENCES TO: Jack Kovar KE0AX@ia.net From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:28 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: Get your Ticket from Deal Message-ID: <1996Mar23.155046.9817@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: <35e_9603222217@woodybbs.com> Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 15:50:46 GMT In article <35e_9603222217@woodybbs.com> Clint.Bradford@228.woodybbs.com (Clin t Bradford) writes: > >The Telecommunications Act of 1996 removes the conflict of interest >wording from existing FCC regulations...allowing your local Ham Dealer >to become a Volunteer Examiner, and give you your Amateur test. > >Does this bother anyone? Or am I simply getting too conservative in my >old age? Well it takes at least 3 conspiring licensed amateurs (who may work for a dealer) and a cooperative VEC to produce a fraudulent exam session. There's a risk here, but I don't think it's a large one. I suspect the risk is no larger than for club members to give exams to other club members, which has been allowed all along. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:29 1996 From: "C. Wheeler" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap Subject: Re: GrandFather left 2 Garages full of Stuff Date: 20 Mar 1996 05:26:57 GMT Message-ID: <4io4v1$oh3@ccnet2.ccnet.com> References: <4i49qb$jpt@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> <314b26a9.10630201@news.efn.org> <4ik6j2$rdb@dfw-ixnews1.ix.netcom.com> bigjon1@ix.netcom.com(Jon Shay ) wrote: >In <314b26a9.10630201@news.efn.org> dhughes@efn.org (Dick Hughes) >writes: >> >>moore@isd.upmc.edu (James Moore) wrote: >>> If interested call 1 800 996-2971 >>I noticed this same post in rec.motorcycles. Must have a lot of >>stuff! I think he is playing with us. > >I think the CLUE here is 1-800......"Sure I'm gonna pay for a 1-800 >service so I can sell my grandfathers junk"....To heck with a YARD SALE >that would'nt cost a dime! From calling the number myself (since I heard it was O.O.S.) and listening to the OOS announcement, it sounds like a paging terminal. Probably a personal 800 number from Skytel or other carrier. Perhaps the poster discovered it was not a wise move to publish his pager number here after he got flooded with calls (like the one I just made) and changed it. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:29 1996 From: bigjon1@ix.netcom.com(Jon Shay ) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap Subject: Re: GrandFather left 2 Garages full of Stuff Date: 18 Mar 1996 17:30:10 GMT Message-ID: <4ik6j2$rdb@dfw-ixnews1.ix.netcom.com> References: <4i49qb$jpt@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> <314b26a9.10630201@news.efn.org> In <314b26a9.10630201@news.efn.org> dhughes@efn.org (Dick Hughes) writes: > >moore@isd.upmc.edu (James Moore) wrote: > >> >> GrandFather passed and left 2 garages full of stuff. >> >> GrandMother wants rid of it. >> >> If interested call 1 800 996-2971 >> >> Thank You >> > >I noticed this same post in rec.motorcycles. Must have a lot of >stuff! I think he is playing with us. > >Dick Hughes I think the CLUE here is 1-800......"Sure I'm gonna pay for a 1-800 service so I can sell my grandfathers junk"....To heck with a YARD SALE that would'nt cost a dime! From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:31 1996 From: croaker@access.digex.net (Francis A. Ney, Jr.) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Ham radio at the Olympic Games Date: 20 Mar 1996 13:21:49 -0500 Message-ID: References: <4in2uh$m5n@abyss.West.Sun.COM> Reply-To: croaker@access.digex.net In article <4in2uh$m5n@abyss.West.Sun.COM> myers@West.Sun.COM writes: > Hey, I appreciate this, I really do. I just happen to think that selectivel y > excluding certain kinds of radios, if that is indeed being done, tends > to undermine the validity of this argument. If amateurs are told not > to carry handie-talkies, but non-amateurs are permitted to carry > cellular telephones, I really have to question the "logic" behind > the decision. This has been my point every time a certain gun show in Virginia does this. --- Frank Ney WV/EMT-B VA/EMT-A N4ZHG LPWV NRA(L) GOA CCRKBA JPFO Sponsor, BATF Abuse page http://www.access.digex.net/~croaker/batfabus.html West Virginia Coordinator, Libertarian Second Amendment Caucus "[E]lections amount to no more than choosing between the scum that floats to the top of the barrel and the dregs that settle to the bottom." - L. Neil Smith From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:33 1996 From: bbattles@nai.net (Brian Battles, WS1O, New Britain, CT USA) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Ham radio at the Olympic Games Date: 19 Mar 1996 12:15:49 GMT Message-ID: <4im8hl$n9k@a3bsrv.nai.net> Well, I figured I may as well make a comment or two here... 8-) In article <4htge7$g2h@news.theriver.com>, kc7gnm@theriver.com done said... > >In <4hqq5o$64r@news.interpath.net>, Don Schreiner writes: >> >>If Atlanta is asking for Amateur Radio help for the Olympics, but >>simultaneously disallowing radios, this could put a crimp in communication. >I think hams shouldn't help them until they lift that silly rule. If they >want our help, they should let us bring our radios and such into the >stadium. I thought I'd plunk down into the middle of this gentlemanly discussion, fee ling somewhat qualified to open my trap since I was Deputy Commissioner of Communications at the 1995 Spe cial Olympics World Games last July in New Haven, Connecticut. I was responsible for all aspects of ham activ ities, and ultimately "boss" of more than 500 volunteers. Believe me, an event of that size, which was the largest scheduled event in the world in '95, was a communication nightmare. Most of the RF systems were provided by the Departmen t of Defense, and that made sense, since the event brought out delegates from almost every country, and ev en our President and his family. The last thing I wanted was to be asked to provide ham radio communica tion in any potentially critical areas where commercial two-way radio systems could provide equal or b etter functionality, and ensure that hams wouldn't be blamed if anything distastrous did happen! Actually, we were pressed into action in several areas that had not been pla nned in advance, and we kept our main operations "separate" from the routine official communication; ie, we ran two NTS traffic booths and a nice special-event station on the main midway, and provided ATV for the sailing events. Now, there sure is a lot of differenec between Special Olympics and "plain, old, regular" Olympics, particularly money and media coverage, but I advise any who plan to participat e to keep in mind a few key points: 1) Hams are NOT the focus of the event--it's about athletics and politics. 2) No matter how much time, talk and money goes into planning, behind the sc enes it's guaranteed to resemble a completely insane, chaotic zoo, once things get going. (During the Special Olympics, from the management level on down, we had an affectionate buzzword for the entire event : "Massive Clusterfu--.") 3) Don't wait for anyone from the Olympics to answer any questions. When we waited for Special Olympics bureaucrats to make any kind of trivial decisions, we may as well have dropped dead. When something really needed to get done, we just acted like we knew what we were doing and we did i t. Period. 4) Most of the organizers don't have a clue about Amateur Radio. Don't worry about that. Ignore that. There will be a few people who do know about ham radio, and if they're know en ough to ask for hams' assistance, they'll ask. Otherwise, don't bother beating your head against the wall. 5) If you are asked to provide any communication service, either (A) Refuse to accept any position where you're in charge of anything, or (B) Stock up on Prozac, Valium and Jack Danie l's. 6) You may find that your most valuable contribution comes in manning commer cial-band radio gear, and never emit a peep on the hams bands. Fine. So what? The key is to show 'em tha t amateurs Know What They're Doing. 7) After more than a year of advance planning for the week of the World Game s, there was still a TON of stuff we didn't, nor could have, planned for. This is a MASSIVE undertaking, a nd you sure shouldn't expect to be viewed as a major part of it. 8) Don't whine about it if they don't want random amateurs--and anyone else- -wandering around with hand-held radios, scanners, etc, on their persons. The RF situation can be tru ly chaos even with what they "plan" for; no need to add to it. We had to coordinate--and prevent interefere nce between--commercial/government frequencies, Secret Service, FBI, police, fire, ambulance, cellular, etc...including dozens of temporary repeaters and other junque. It wasn't easy and it wasn't fun. 8) Hams are NOT the focus of the event--it's about athletics and politics. I don't feel like going into a ton more detail about philosophy and the poli tics of such an event, but if anyone can think of any specific technical or operational question that they n eed answered, and believe that my experience may be worth the electrons it's carried on, drop me a note or gi ve me a call. Meanwhile, good luck to all, and success to the athletes and volunteers at t he 1996 Olympic Games in Atlanta! --73 de BB, WS1O -------------------------------------------------------------------- Brian Battles Computer/business consulting: Visual Basic programming, PC training, writing/editing, advertising PO Box 310203, Newington, CT 06131-0203 Tel 860-827-9956 E-mail: bbattles@nai.net Amateur Radio call sign WS1O =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "Since the invention of elastic, mankind takes up less space." From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:34 1996 From: thw@ecr.mu.oz.au (Thomas WU) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Help on building a SSB transceiver Date: 21 Mar 1996 12:52:42 GMT Message-ID: <4irjeq$aet@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> hi people... I need some help on building a SSB transceiver, I have the design, but I need to do some modifications to it, and I don't know how I have to modify the VFO to a larger range, and the BPF to a larger range too... So anybody would help me, please mail me at the following addresses... please.... thanx!! -- ___________________________________________________ | ''''' UNIVERSITY OF MELBOURNE ,_ o | | (o o) ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING / //\, | |___ooO-(_)-Ooo_____________________________\>>_|___| |__________________thw@ecr.mu.oz.au_________~\\,____| |______________ thw@mundil.cs.mu.oz.au______________| | Dr. Thomasan. '96 - your family Doc. | |___________________________________________________| From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:35 1996 From: "valery@magius.spb.su" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Help! Where should I send checklog for French contest '96? Date: 21 Mar 1996 17:47:50 +0300 Distribution: world Message-ID: From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:36 1996 From: swu@eos.ncsu.edu (Shawkang Wu) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Help: unlicensed bands Date: 18 Mar 1996 14:52:46 GMT Message-ID: <4ijtbu$kso@taco.cc.ncsu.edu> I need to find a list of showing all the unlicensed bands in the U.S., Europe, and Asia. I was told that the ones in U.S. are listed in part 15 of the Code of Federal Regulations. But I have had no luck in the local public libraries due to the mass volumes of the document. For those in Europe and Asia, I don't even have a clue as to where to start. Any info would be appreciated. Please send me email at: swu@eos.ncsu.edu. Thanks. shawkang wu From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:38 1996 From: Bill@halcyon.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment Subject: Re: HT Dual-Band Amp vs. Dual-Band Mobile Date: Sat, 23 Mar 96 17:59:03 PDT Message-ID: References: In Article, writes: > Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc > Path: news.halcyon.com!nwnews.wa.com!uw-coco!uw-beaver!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!unixg. ubc.ca!info.ucla.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!in2 .uu.net!hodes.com!netcomsv!uu4news.netcom.com!netcomsv!uu3news.netcom.com!ix.n etcom.com!netcom.com!NewsWatcher!user > From: lui@netcom.com (Stephen Lui) > Subject: HT Dual-Band Amp vs. Dual-Band Mobile > Message-ID: > Sender: lui@netcom19.netcom.com > Organization: Netcom > X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.2.0b4 > Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 06:51:09 GMT > Lines: 27 > Xref: news.halcyon.com rec.radio.amateur.equipment:28192 rec.radio.amateur.m isc:99104 > > I've enjoyed using my Icom IC-Z1A dual-band HT and have been looking at > dual-band amplifiers. I seem to need a bit more power when using the HT in > my car, using a MFJ-1724B magmount antenna. My HT puts out 5W on 2M and 7W > on 70cm when connected to 13.5V. > > I could buy a high gain antenna, but I really don't want a 5 foot antenna > on my car! > > RF Concepts has a 2M/70cm amp (Model 2/70G) which outputs 30W/20W for 5 > watts in for $259 and has a built-in receive preamp as well. How will the > HT and the amp compare to a dual-band mobile unit? > > The power may be comparable, and the amp also improves received signals, > but how will the performance compare with a dual-band mobile? Does the RF > Concepts dual-band amp have any band pass filters to reduce intermod? > > I do connect my HT to a Radio Shack Discone antenna at home and don't seem > to have much of a problem with intermod. I know the discone isn't a high > gain antenna, but it is definitely better than the rubber duckie! > > I like all of the features of my HT and I probably have to buy something > like a Yaesu FT-8500 ($680) to get comparable features (alphanumerics are > high on my priority list). I like the ICOM IC-2000H ($300), but it is only > a 2M radio. > > Stephen > KF6BTE Hi Stephen, My suggestion is to skip the dual band amp. You will be better off with a real dual band mobile radio. With a mobile radio your radio is always ready to go in the car (no hooking it up to external antenna and power). Your hand held is always ready to be taken in your coat pocket. A handheld does not have the best immunity in the receiver. You will experience more intermod when using the handheld in your car on an external antenna. Bill From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:39 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: HT Dual-Band Amp vs. Dual-Band Mobile Message-ID: <1996Mar23.154254.9719@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 15:42:54 GMT In article lui@netcom.com (Stephen Lui) write s: >I've enjoyed using my Icom IC-Z1A dual-band HT and have been looking at >dual-band amplifiers. I seem to need a bit more power when using the HT in >my car, using a MFJ-1724B magmount antenna. My HT puts out 5W on 2M and 7W >on 70cm when connected to 13.5V. > >I could buy a high gain antenna, but I really don't want a 5 foot antenna >on my car! > >RF Concepts has a 2M/70cm amp (Model 2/70G) which outputs 30W/20W for 5 >watts in for $259 and has a built-in receive preamp as well. How will the >HT and the amp compare to a dual-band mobile unit? Not favorably. Think of the tangle of cables, the still poor audio output, and the almost certainty of overload and intermod problems with the HT plus preamp. >The power may be comparable, and the amp also improves received signals, >but how will the performance compare with a dual-band mobile? Does the RF >Concepts dual-band amp have any band pass filters to reduce intermod? No, there are no filters limiting intermod included, and the preamp will only make it worse. Your HT is already too sensitive thanks to being designed to work with a rubber dummy load. >I do connect my HT to a Radio Shack Discone antenna at home and don't seem >to have much of a problem with intermod. I know the discone isn't a high >gain antenna, but it is definitely better than the rubber duckie! Barely. :-) The main advantage is height, which is certainly not inconsequential, but doesn't fully make up for the lack of gain. >I like all of the features of my HT and I probably have to buy something >like a Yaesu FT-8500 ($680) to get comparable features (alphanumerics are >high on my priority list). I like the ICOM IC-2000H ($300), but it is only >a 2M radio. Ouch. Yes, if bells and whistles are more important than solid communications capabilities, you're going to have to spend a ton on a mobile rig. But if you're more interested in good communications performance, there are alternatives which will work much better than a HT and an amp, while not costing more than the combination of a HT and an amp. The Yaesu FT-8500 is actually a pretty good ham rig, despite the bells and whistles, but a Motorola Mitrek would be better, and cost less than $100 (or a MIcor for $50, or a GE Mastr II for $75). With the change, you could also buy a scanner if you just have to have that capability. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:40 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: hayward@cs.uchicago.edu (Kristin Rachael Hayward) Subject: Re: I moved...HELP! Message-ID: References: <31516769.12385752@news.pc.centuryinter.net> Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 17:37:06 GMT In article <31516769.12385752@news.pc.centuryinter.net> nhoop@centuryinter.net (Nat Hooper) writes: :Hello, : :I recently moved to another state and need (I presume) to get a new :callsign. : :Can anyone tell me how to go about it? I 've had an 'advanced' ticket :since 1988. : :Thank you, : Well, you *do* need to notify the FCC of your new address. This is done using form 610 and attaching a copy of your license. However, you do *not* need to change your call simply to reflect the fact that you live in a different region. However, if you *want* a call that is like your neighbor's call, then you need to check the box on the 610 indicating that you want a new call sign to be issued. -- Kristin Rachael Hayward Director of Administrative Information Systems and Business Services University of Maine http://www.umeais.maine.edu/~hayward From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:41 1996 From: nhoop@centuryinter.net (Nat Hooper) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: I moved...HELP! Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 14:31:23 GMT Message-ID: <31516769.12385752@news.pc.centuryinter.net> Hello, I recently moved to another state and need (I presume) to get a new callsign. Can anyone tell me how to go about it? I 've had an 'advanced' ticket since 1988. Thank you, -- Nat Hooper (WD4BJB) Oxford, Arkansas From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:41 1996 From: Pierre Thomson Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: I moved...HELP! Date: 22 Mar 1996 15:53:23 GMT Message-ID: <4iuidj$d1c@news.mhv.net> References: <31516769.12385752@news.pc.centuryinter.net> nhoop@centuryinter.net (Nat Hooper) wrote: > I recently moved to another state and need (I presume) to get a new > callsign. I don't think you need to change your callsign. Lots of hams I know are happily using old, out-of-state callsigns. If you would _like_ to change your callsign, get a copy of Form 610 and fill out the appropriate parts. Probably simpler to wait until the next renewal or upgrade, when you'll have to fill out the form anyway ... ~*-.,_,.-*~'^'~*-.,_,.-*~'^'~*-.,_,.-*~'^'~*-.,_,.-*~'^'~*-.,_,.-*~' Pierre Thomson ARS: KA2QPG internet: mmommsen@mhv.net -*~'^'~*-.,_,.-*~'^'~*-.,_,.-*~'^'~*-.,_,.-*~'^'~*-.,_,.-*~'^'~*-., From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:42 1996 From: medcalf@idir.net (gloria medcalf) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: I moved...HELP! Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 10:52:01 -0600 Message-ID: References: <31516769.12385752@news.pc.centuryinter.net> <4iuidj$d1c@news.mhv.net> In article <4iuidj$d1c@news.mhv.net>, Pierre Thomson wrote: > nhoop@centuryinter.net (Nat Hooper) wrote: > > I recently moved to another state and need (I presume) to get a new > > callsign. > > I don't think you need to change your callsign. Lots of hams I know > are happily using old, out-of-state callsigns. If you would _like_ > to change your callsign, get a copy of Form 610 and fill out the > appropriate parts. Probably simpler to wait until the next renewal > or upgrade, when you'll have to fill out the form anyway ... > > > ~*-.,_,.-*~'^'~*-.,_,.-*~'^'~*-.,_,.-*~'^'~*-.,_,.-*~'^'~*-.,_,.-*~' > Pierre Thomson ARS: KA2QPG internet: mmommsen@mhv.net > -*~'^'~*-.,_,.-*~'^'~*-.,_,.-*~'^'~*-.,_,.-*~'^'~*-.,_,.-*~'^'~*-., However, even if you don't want to change your callsign, you still need to let the FCC know of your change of address. I think this is still done by filling out a Form 610. gloria ka5ztx http://www.idir.net/~medcalf/ztx/ From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:43 1996 From: dwc@crl.com (Donald W. Chapman) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Icom 3SAT Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 22:45:33 GMT Message-ID: <4islrn$gma@nntp.crl.com> I am looking for any mods for the Icom IC-3SAT. like broadband RX/TX, AM receive, etc. Thank you. don From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:44 1996 From: Dave Booth Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Icom 3SAT Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 18:47:18 -0800 Message-ID: <31536636.1CFB@pactitle.com> References: <4islrn$gma@nntp.crl.com> To: "Donald W. Chapman" Donald W. Chapman wrote: > > I am looking for any mods for the Icom IC-3SAT. like broadband RX/TX, > AM receive, etc. > Thank you. > don -- try looking here... http://oak.oakland.edu:8080/pub/hamradio/mods 73 de kc6wfs http://www.lookup.com/Homepages/65348/home.html Dave Booth From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:46 1996 From: stan@mutadv.com (Stan Huntting) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment Subject: KaWin News Date: 22 Mar 1996 04:10:46 GMT Message-ID: <4it986$c16@news-2.csn.net> KAWIN NEWS KaWin 6.36 Kantronics to distribute KaWin KaWin FTP Site closure KaWin News mailing list issues Version 6.36 of KaWin, available now from the KaWin Home Page, is just a maintenance release with a few, very minor, fixes. But, due to problems with my mailer, many people missed the announcement of version 6.35, with support for the Buckmaster Hamcall CDROM. Also, I am very pleased to announce that Kantronics will be packaging KaWin on diskette with every TNC and TNC-upgrade. This is the same shareware KaWin that is available from the KaWin Home Page and will increase the distribution of KaWin several fold. All files that were previously available from the KaWin FTP Site have been consolidated in the KaWin Home Page. If you do not have Web access and had previously relied on FTP access to these files, send me email to that effect and we'll arrange to get them to you. I have purged all addresses from the KaWin News mailing list that have had delivery problems. If you did NOT receive the email version of KaWin News announcing KaWin 6.36 and would like to be on the mailing list, please subscribe by email request. To add your email address to the KaWin News mailing list, send email to stan@mutadv.com with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line. If your email address is modified in any way by your host or gateway, please include the correct address in the body of the message. Thanks. 73, Igottago... Stan .. KaWin News is published by Stan Huntting, KF0IA. -- Stan Huntting, KF0IA Email: stan@mutadv.com Fax: 303 444 2314 KaWin home page: http://www.mutadv.com/kawin/ Postal address: 4655 Pleasant Ridge Rd., Boulder, CO 80301-1731, USA From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:46 1996 From: roland.stiner@hobbs.com (ROLAND STINER) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Kenwood Email Message-ID: <8BD31A7.0029004616.uuout@hobbs.com> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 96 07:03:00 -0500 Distribution: world Reply-To: roland.stiner@hobbs.com (ROLAND STINER) To: georgie@aztec.asu.edu Subject: Kenwood Email >I have ICOM's Email address, Can you post it? I would like to have it. --- OLX 1.53 --------------> 73, de NK2U <---------------- * Origin: CyberNet BBS Lyndhurst, NJ (1:2604/151) .....oooooOOOOOo http://www.intac.com/~cono __,-----. ---+_________#_ The Roy Hobbs BBS sysop@hobbs.com |________| |__|___________} Node 1: 201-641-7307 ooooo oo ~ ooO-O-O-O == oo\ Node 2: 201-641-3126 From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:47 1996 From: lloyd17@airmail.net () Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Learning Morse Code Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 15:10:22 GMT Message-ID: <4iu8p3$5lc@news-f.iadfw.net> I am thinking about getting a Ham Liciense. I already have a receiver and DX all the time. Can anyone reccommend a good program for teaching Morse Code? Is there a FAQ list for getting a liciense? If so can someone send me a copy? Thanks! I enjoy this group very much. Regards Lloyd From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:49 1996 From: nhoop@centuryinter.net (Nat Hooper) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Licence renewal Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 16:41:18 GMT Message-ID: <314ee285.4902001@news.pc.centuryinter.net> Hi, I've had my "Advanced" licence since 1988, but have been inactive for awhile...and have moved. I don't need to renew for awhile but what's the easiest way to get the appropriate form for change of state? Thanks, Nat Hooper WD4BJB Oxford, Arkansas Nat Hooper Oxford, Arkansas A man has to think. I think I'll go throw a stick. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:50 1996 From: thooker@psl.nmsu.edu (Tracy Hooker) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Mars/Cap mods for FT900 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 13:14:23 Message-ID: Does anybody have the Mars/Cap modification for the Yaesu FT900? If so, please email them to me. THanks Tracy KA5ECS From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:51 1996 From: un040343@wvnvms.wvnet.edu Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Military field/PRC radios wanted Message-ID: <1996Mar22.090657.17188@wvnvms> Date: 22 Mar 96 09:06:57 EST Hello all, I am looking to pick up military PRC type equipment. Preferably transister like the 77, 74, 70 etc. also like the 25s. Will work out a trade or buy if the price is fair. Thanks, Chris KB2HVU please mail to condon@wvube1.be.wvu.edu From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:52 1996 Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 14:36:55 EST From: peter deHART Message-ID: <96081.143655PJD3@psuvm.psu.edu> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: MISSION NET Seeking information... frequencies and times for missionary nets on ham bands. Thank you! From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:52 1996 From: olympian@nyc.pipeline.com (William Rueger) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: MISSION NET Date: 23 Mar 1996 11:39:54 -0500 Message-ID: <4j19gq$cmb@pipe3.nyc.pipeline.com> References: <96081.143655PJD3@psuvm.psu.edu> IMRA Net - 14280 kHz Monday through Sat. 1800-2000 GMT From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:54 1996 From: lockhart@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Jack C. Lockhart) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: MOTIVATING HAMS TO UPGRADE Date: 20 Mar 1996 23:34:59 GMT Message-ID: <4iq4n3$t0k@news.service.uci.edu> References: <9603191807.AA29342@pti.prysm.net> In article <9603191807.AA29342@pti.prysm.net>, Frank C. Morris, N5YZM wrote: >We are trying to find ways to motivate hams to upgrade. We have already >lost one local club to the No-Tech Techs. > >There is no doubt that you can't make anyone upgrade due to the fact that >you have to have the desire and willingness to put the time into upgrading. >It is one of the things in life that you have to earn and it is not given to >you. But the benefits are far greater than the time required to upgrade. > >Can anyone share with us what they have done to motivate hams to upgrade? > >73's DE Frank, N5YZM >Boat Anchor Radio Group > Frank, Aren't we being a little bit co-dependent? ~jack_ -- /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ | Jack C. Lockhart << SNAILMAIL | | Radio Systems Analyst E-MAIL > LOCKHART@uci.edu | |Office of Academic Computing - ECS !BANG! > ...!ucbvax!ucivax!lockhart | | 2209 Central Plant Building HAM > WD6AEI | | University of California, Irvine AMPR > WD6AEI@N0ARY.#nocal.ca.usa.na | | Irvine, CA 92717-5475 VOICE > (714) 824-8477 | | U.S.A FAX > (714) 824-2270 | | WWW URL: http://www.oac.uci.edu/indiv/lockhart/ | \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ "And in the beginning there was nothing. And God said, 'let there be light'. And there was still nothing, BUT, you could see IT!" -Anonymous / o o o o o o o . . . ______________________________ _____=======_T__\_ o _____ || | | |_| | .][__n_n_|DD[ /====_____ | #include | | | >(________|__|_[_________]_|____________________________|_|_______________|_ _/oo OOOOO oo` ooo ooo 'o^o^o o^o^o` 'o^o o^o` -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:55 1996 From: jgarver@ichips.intel.com (Jim Garver) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: MOTIVATING HAMS TO UPGRADE Date: 22 Mar 1996 17:44:38 GMT Message-ID: <4iuou7$1im@news.jf.intel.com> References: <9603191807.AA29342@pti.prysm.net> <4iqhdf$n5g@cc.iu.net> >>We are trying to find ways to motivate hams to upgrade. We have already >>lost one local club to the No-Tech Techs. Regularly scheduled testing sessions at convenient times and locations are a good start. Without prejudice. A ham license is a license to learn. Nowadays when people come to me for advice on getting a license, I just point to NM1D's Autoexam program. ftp://oak.oakland.edu/SimTel/msdos/hamradio/ I believe that you can learn from this type of study. If I was a Godless Tech today, I can't think of one single reason to upgrade. Almost all of my activities now fall into that area of 'priviledges' . Incentive licensing was a failure and Novice Enhancement a failure. The only thing that has worked as measured by an increasing ham population is the No Code Tech. In my opinion they are the ONLY hope for ham radio which is way behind the state of the art in almost every field now. QST had a recent editorial or article titled: 'Morse 2000' I just about chucked! Until then I hadn't even thought about anybody trying to foster that grand old tradition into the 21st Century. Yes, I used to teach code classes and helped many people get their license or upgrade. And I did operate a code-only station for years back in the 60's. But this is the late 90's. And I'd like to hear or even see some more young new voices and faces on the ham bands, last of the public airwaves. WA7LDV -- jgarver@ichips.intel.com I don't speak for Intel From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:58 1996 From: Ray Wilson Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: MOTIVATING HAMS TO UPGRADE Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 16:59:36 -0500 Message-ID: <31507FC8.478F@voicenet.com> References: <9603191807.AA29342@pti.prysm.net> Frank C. Morris, N5YZM wrote: > Can anyone share with us what they have done to motivate hams to upgrade? > > 73's DE Frank, N5YZM > Boat Anchor Radio Group Frank, I respectfully suggest you DON'T let them listen to 3.898 or 14.313 before they upgrade. 73 Ray From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:39:59 1996 From: gclarkii@main.gbdata.com (Gary Clark II) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Need help with used FT-470 Date: 21 Mar 1996 02:26:45 -0600 Message-ID: <4ir3s5$bmo@main.gbdata.com> Summary: bought used ft-470, need help with config Keywords: ft-470 help Hello all, I've just (tonight) bought a used FT-470 and it came with no manual (what can I say, the price was right...:)). Does anyone know where an on-line version might be or where I can get a copy of it? I need things like how to do memories and other such nice things. Thanks for any and all help, Gary From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:40:01 1996 From: rzancha@moultrie.com (Ralph Zancha) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Need help with used FT-470 Date: 21 Mar 1996 12:44:31 GMT Message-ID: <4irivf$neq@ns.inw.net> References: <4ir3s5$bmo@main.gbdata.com> Hello: The best place to get a manual for the radio is to call Yaesu. They will send you a photo copied manual for about $8.00 73 Ralph Zancha WC9V > > From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:40:01 1996 From: clay@panix.com (Clay Irving) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Need Spectrum Chart! Date: 23 Mar 1996 13:22:47 -0500 Message-ID: <4j1fhn$5nq@panix.com> References: In kaboom@usit.net (M ichael) writes: >I'm looking for a chart or a list of the HF through UHF spectrum, showing >band plans and allocations. Anybody got one? Anybody know if there's an >FCC site on the net that might have something like that? Please reply via >email. Thank! Check the Scanning Reference, http://www.panix.com/clay/scanning/ -- Clay Irving, N2VKG : clay@panix.com : Some mornings it just doesn't seem worth it http://www.panix.com/clay : to gnaw through the leather straps... From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:40:03 1996 From: mwhite@mitre.org (Michael White) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Please identify this Halicrafter. Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 09:08:27 -0500 Distribution: usa Message-ID: References: <4ijm1r$qks@acmez.gatech.edu> Edward Soniat du Fossat Jr wrote: > What is this radio, how old is it and should I repair or replace. > > It is a Halicrafter. > It has a large half moon dial labeled Tuning (with the h symbol in the middl e) > It has a smaller half moon dial labeled Band Spread to the right of Tuning. > Rating on a scale of 0 is run over by a truck and 10 is new this could > be a 3, in other words it ain't pretty. Sounds like a Hallicrafters S-38. If you want to restore it as a classic radio, fine. In pristine condition, a radio like that might be worth $80 - $100. But if you want to actaully use it, get a new radio. Any modern radio, even a very inexpensive one, will outperform it even you restore it to like-new working condition. You'll spend more in parts and frustration trying to get a wrecked old H'crafter working than you'll spend on a new radio. Best of luck. Mike, N4PDY -- mwhite@mitre.org My opinions are my own, not my employer's. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:40:04 1996 From: Dave Maciorowski Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: REPEATER GUIDES ON WWW Date: 21 Mar 1996 13:05:10 GMT Message-ID: <4irk66$l1n@cloner4.netcom.com> References: <4g2gg4$e1q@cloner3.netcom.com> <4hsg6m$m7l@feenix.metronet.com> <4hso2n$em@reader2.ix.netcom.com> >Has anyone noticed that individual hams are putting together >these collections, and not the coordinators who collect >all the data? Something to think about... Not here in Colorado. See the coordinator's list of Colorado repeaters at http://www.rmsd.com/hamradio/. ----- Dave Maciorowski, WA1JHK Colorado Repeater Association, Inc. Serving Colorado with Voice and Data, 6-Meters to 1.2 Gig Internet: wa1jhk@ix.netcom.com or wa1jhk@amsat.org CRA: http://www.rmsd.com/hamradio/cra/ From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:40:04 1996 From: w2ehd@aol.com (W2EHD) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: The Sleuth answering device - any info?? Date: 21 Mar 1996 08:39:41 -0500 Message-ID: <4irm6t$re5@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: w2ehd@aol.com (W2EHD) I have come across a telephone/modem answering/security device called The Sleuth - made by C. H. Systems of Los Angeles. I understand it can be programmed to call back the modem/caller - if the proper password is provided. C.H. Systems, I am told, went out of business some years ago. Does anyone know how to reprogram The Sleuth - or what software is needed - to use it again? Jack W2EHD From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:40:07 1996 From: drranu@holly.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (Emarit Ranu) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: TTL/RS-232 converters Date: 20 Mar 1996 23:19:34 GMT Message-ID: <4iq3q6$kjo@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> References: <4inamj$t4u@news.scruz.net> Make one. You can look in the February 1993 QST, page 37. Here you will find a VERY simple one to build for less than $10 parts only. Todd Jonz (todd@tj.org) wrote: : I'm in the market for a pair rig-to-PC interfaces (TTL to RS-232 level : converters), one for a Yaesu FT-736R and another for a Kenwood TS-950SD. I : called the local HRO store to inquire about prices and availability and was : absolutely astonished to learn that they want $110 and $120, respectively, : for these little beasts. I assume that this is in the ballpark of the MSRP, : and that the other major suppliers will have similar prices. : I recall seeing ads in the past in QST for several third parties offering : these interfaces in the $40 to $50 price range, but after pouring through : the last three issues, I've come up dry. Can anybody give me a pointer? : KB6JXT, Todd : P.S. Please excuse what may be a stupid hardware question from an admitted : software geek, but us there any possible justification for a $120 : price tag on an item like this? Seems *way* out of line to me.... -- -Emarit, KG0CQ 73's drranu@holly.ColoState.EDU Electrical Engineering, Colorado State Univeristy Packet: KG0CQ@KF0UW.#NECO.USA.NOAM All generalizations are bad. Censorship: ###### _._ __. _____ _._. __._ From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:40:10 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: Weird Radio Problem Message-ID: <1996Mar20.163243.23689@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: <4id03n$fal@gaudi.lahabra.chevron.com> <314F720A.59DB@students.wisc.edu> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 16:32:43 GMT In article <314F720A.59DB@students.wisc.edu> "J. Guy Stalnaker" writes: >Hi all: >I'm a SW newbie and have found this entire thread highly instructive. But li ke any good >student after a professor's lecture I have a question. Why do FM radios use this "image >frequency?" Why not use circuitry that tunes directly into the desired frequ ency? In >other words, what's the image frequency used for and why? > >Many thanks, > >J. Guy Stalnaker The image frequency is an unavoidable consequence of superhetrodyne receiver design. In a good receiver, the front end filtering is sufficient to prevent the image frequency from reaching the first mixer. In a cheap radio, or a wide frequency coverage radio, the front end filtering may not be good enough, so the image frequency mixes with the first LO and the output appears in the IF where it is amplified and demodulated along with the desired frequency. There is a radio design that doesn't have images. It's called a TRF design. TRF stands for Tuned Radio Frequency, and it is simply a chain of RF amplifiers all gang tuned to the desired signal frequency. But it has other, and worse, problems than image response, so it was abandoned for the superhetrodyne design way back in the 1930s. The three main problems of the TRF design are to get all those RF amplifiers to track tune in sync as you tune from station to station, dealing with the selectivity changes as you change frequencies, and avoiding self-oscillation. The superhetrodyne design sidesteps these problems by doing the gain and selectivity at a *fixed* IF (Intermediate Frequency). This eliminates the variable gang tuning problem, and eliminates the problem of selectivity changing with frequency. Since it is a fixed frequency subsystem, self-oscillation problems are also relatively easy to avoid. The tradeoff for that is that you need a mixer to convert the desired signal to the Intermediate Frequency by beating the desired signal with a LO (Local Oscillator) that is tunable. Unavoidably, the mixer gives you both sum and difference products, hence there is an image. As I said, a good superhetrodyne receiver has sufficient filtering ahead of the first mixer to prevent a signal at the image frequency from entering the mixer, a cheaply built receiver often does not. The most common FM IF frequency is 10.7 MHz. So the desired signal is tuned 10.7 MHz to one side of the LO, and the image appears 10.7 MHz to the *other* side of the LO. The product in one case is 10.7 MHz and in the other it is -10.7 MHz. The negative sign merely means the envelope of one of the signals is reversed from that of the other product. So it's like looking in a mirror, and it is thus called an *image*. Since the desired signal is 10.7+10.7=21.4 MHz displaced from the image signal, you only need a filter before the mixer that will pass one of the signals but reject the other one 21.4 MHz away. This is usually an easy filter to design and build. But for the TRF receiver, you need a *bunch* of *tunable* filters that are capable of rejecting a signal only 200 kHz away (the separation between FM broadcast channels) from the desired signal. That requires a Q (sharpness) that is very hard to obtain in a gang tuned design. So the TRF design fell out of favor many years ago. It is still sometimes used for VLF (Very Low Frequency) receivers because the needed Q is not so hard to obtain at the lower frequency. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:40:11 1996 From: jlundgre@delta1.deltanet.com (John Lundgren) Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,alt.radio.pirate,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,uk.radio.amateur Subject: Re: Weird Radio Problem Date: 21 Mar 1996 02:44:01 GMT Message-ID: <4iqfph$s02@news02.deltanet.com> References: <4imjob$46g@ray.atw.fullfeed.com> Steve Work (slwork@netcom.com) penned: : Dennis Nuetzel (bigd@mail.atw.fullfeed.com) wrote: : : >There is a small, minor detail: Air transmissions were AM, last time I : : >checked! How does an FM receiver with poor-selectivity receive AM : : >transmissions??? : : If close enough, it will. I have picked up CB radio transmissions (Als o : : AM) on a nearby FM reciever. : "AM rejection" is a spec which applies to FM radios. It is worse on : cheaper ones. I'm assuming that by worse, you mean is has poorer AM rejection. : The circuitry used to detect FM signals can respond to changes in the : amplitude. Especially when the circuit is cheap, and under conditions : where it is overloaded. Actually, when the circuitry is overloaded, it should limit and prevent AM from getting thru. Maybe the circuitry is not overloaded enough. ;-) -- #======P=G=P==k=e=y==a=v=a=i=l=a=b=l=e==u=p=o=n==r=e=q=u=e=s=t======# | John Lundgren - Elec Tech - Info Tech Svcs. | jlundgre@ | | Rancho Santiago Community College District | deltanet.com | | 17th St at Bristol \ Santa Ana, CA 92706 | http://rsc.rancho| | My opinions are my own, and not my employer's. | .cc.ca.us | | Most FAQs are available through Thomas Fine's WWW FAQ archive: | |http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu:80/hypertext/faq/usenet/FAQ-List.html| | "You can flame your brains out -- it won't take long." | #===T=u=z=l=a==C=o=m=p=a=n=y=.=.===t=h=r=e=e='=s==L=e==C=r=o=w=d=!==# From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:40:12 1996 From: dsterner@neosoft.com (Don Sterner) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: What do you need for a 2 meter repeater Date: 22 Mar 1996 15:26:25 GMT Message-ID: <4iugr1$lk4@uuneo.neosoft.com> References: <199603191518.HAA09551@bing.ncw.net> In article <199603191518.HAA09551@bing.ncw.net>, glass@televar.COM says... > >Does any body know what I need for starting a repeater, equipment wise? I >want it to have an autopatch, and CTCSS tones to access it. >_________________________________________ Not equipment, but the first thing you need in most areas of the country is a coordinated frequency. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:40:13 1996 From: bry2@usa.pipeline.com(Bry AF4K) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: WWW Pages Date: 17 Mar 1996 22:13:59 GMT Message-ID: <4ii2r7$m0f@news1.h1.usa.pipeline.com> References: <4ii2gj$l8j@news1.h1.usa.pipeline.com> On Mar 17, 1996 22:08:19 in article , 'JohnJay@usa.pipeline.com(John Chapman)' wrote: >Looks neat! Unfortunately, when I clicked on the 1st QSL choice >it crashed. said URL couldn't be found! >but have added to my bookmark! QSL choice - what was that about? (Have to check it out...) -- Bry in Gaithersburg, MD near DC Bry2@usa.pipeline.com.us Keep in touch! From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:40:13 1996 From: AF7M@aol.COM Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: x Date: 21 Mar 96 18:03:13 GMT Message-ID: <960321130311_252110111@emout04.mail.aol.com> help From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:40:15 1996 From: "S. Sampson" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: x Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 19:46:13 -0600 Message-ID: <315357E5.FA3@telepath.com> References: <960321130311_252110111@emout04.mail.aol.com> AF7M@aol.COM wrote: > > help That's a normal AOL posting. The number to dial is 911... From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:35:46 1996 From: sparc@ihug.co.nz (Kevin Mitchell) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: 10M equipment required - US sources Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 00:04:10 GMT Message-ID: <4j7bdm$jv4@newsource.ihug.co.nz> Hi, I am trying to track down a source of equipment suitable for 10 Meter use. Our repeater group is building a 10M repeater and because there is a lack of equipment around the 10M band, I need to know of any sources in the US that might sell equipment for our purpose. We are looking for separate units, one for TX and one for RX. Using a split site for the repeater. If there is anyone that can help me locate any equipment at reasonable prices I would be gretful if you could inform me. Best Regards Kevin E-mail: sparc@ihug.co.nz / Amateur Radio helped Pioneer Packet: ZL1UDD@ZL1AB.#11.NZL.OC / the World Communicates / Today. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:35:47 1996 From: Markus Buehler Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: 10m Repeater Switzerland HELP wanted Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 19:46:23 -0800 Message-ID: <3153740F.798A@hitline.ch> Hello thank you for reading this message: We, a small group of ham operators, will build a 10m repeater. Both RX and TX are located up at about 2000 meters in the swiss mountains. A 10 watt beacon is ready to put up to the tx location. We are only waiting for warmer weather conditions. It will operate on 29.660 mc. What we are looking for: Are there 10 m repeaters at such high locations in the united states or else where ? We are interested in what kind of antennas where used. Also the lightning protection is a big problem. Which kind of tx and rx constructions are the best for 10m repeaters. Any other tips are real welcome. Thanks a lot. Marc HB9CPW From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:35:48 1996 From: leslie ferguson Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: 2meter transverter problem on hf rig Date: 29 Mar 1996 01:08:00 GMT Message-ID: <4jfd5g$10s@nuacht.iol.ie> Hi Can anyone help me ,i have a 2 meter transverter for my hf rig ~(ft 757 gx) .But every time i transmit useing the transverter there is feed back coming out of the speaker or my headphones on the hf rig. I wonder is the problem with my transverter or my hf rig?. Thanks ....lez....ei9ejb... From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:35:51 1996 From: mgarrett@prairienet.org (Mark A. Garrett) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: 49Mhz Radio Shack Handheld Date: 24 Mar 1996 16:26:57 GMT Message-ID: <4j3t4h$fu9@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <4iaohl$msc@netaxs.com> <4itg19$lvq@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Reply-To: mgarrett@prairienet.org (Mark A. Garrett) In a previous article, slapinskas@delphi.com () says: >Mark A. Garrett writes: > >>Yes, the single channel units can be converted to 6 meters with a crystal >>change and tuneup. Crystals are fundamental X3 for transmit and for the > >How complicated is the tuneup? Details available from any articles/site? > >Steve Lapinskas >KA1JJA > Steve: I guess I should post a FAQ on how to do this since I have been posting general responses. Tuneup is not hard, depending on what kind of gear that is availible to the ham. I used a general coverage receiver for checking fundamental crystal frequency, a frequency counter to determine final frequency, a 6 meter rig to generate a strong carrier to the radio's receiver (radio in shack connected to dummy load and not to the 49Mhz radio) and a scanner to generate a weak signal using the scanner's oscolator to generate the on channel signal (I did not have a signal generator at the time so that is why I had to use a 6 meter radio and scanner). The layout is straighforward on these radios and the little schematic (if Radio Shack still supplies them) helps also. The only real word of warning is that you should tune up with a scope connected to the demodulator IC and not just the speaker. The squelch circuit is a couple of fixed resistors and is set quite high. I dont have the schematic in front of me but you want to get on the pins that feed noise to the squelch circuit so that you see white noise present on the scope. Tune for minimum noise and after everything is tune up then adjust the quad output coil for max audio. When I get time here I will set down and print up a FAQ on this and some things that I have run across. If you have any questions in the mean time drop me a line and I will try and answer. -- Mark Garrett mgarrett@prairienet.org KA9SZX @ N9LNQ.#ECIL.IL.USA.NOAM From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:35:52 1996 From: BlueSky@tiac.net Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: >>>>HELP - Small VHF Xmitter for Airborne Telemetry<<< Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 12:28:08 -0800 Message-ID: <31585358.1606@tiac.net> Can someone help me by pointing me to a schematic or an article of a small VHF transmitter? It is to be used to relay telemetry from a series of high altitude rockets. Followin g are the (desired) specs: Frequency: 2m band or nearby; XTAL controlled; RF Power: 50-250 mW output; Supply: 9-12 VDC (battery); Modulation: N/A Complexity (ie. size and weight) should be as low as possible, as should the c ost - lets face it - the typical life of these devices will be measured in minutes. I would preffer to build the xmitters myself as integral part of a telemetry package. I have hundreds of various scanner crystals that fit in this category. They ha ve fundamental frequencies around 16MHz, but I don t really know if I can use them for this p roject. I would very much appreciate any help in this matter. I can be also reached at mailto:BlueSky@TIAC.net My thanks to all those who reply! 73s Chris (WR1F) From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:35:53 1996 From: Rick Wilson Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: >Esperanto vs Klingon Date: 29 Mar 1996 14:25:29 GMT Message-ID: <4jgrsp$pvh@babylon5.glenqcy.glenayre.com> Esperantist? claim that Esperanto is a well thought-out language. Maybe. Did they go to a group of speech pathologists and ask these questions: What sounds do young children have trouble learning? What sounds are easily confused? Did they go to a group of audio engineers and ask these questions: What sounds require a lot of bandwidth in order to be clear? What sounds are hard to distinguish in the presence of distortion? What sounds are hard to distinguish in the presence of noise (like weak-signal 2M SSB)? I don't think that the creators of Esperanto did ask those questons because th e very name points out defects in the language--it has not been well enough thou ght out to eliminate difficult-to-learn sounds and easily confused sounds. Anyway I suspect that most trekkies are a lot more interesting than esperantis ts, who probably are still holding on to their original 68000-CPU Macs with 2 MB o f RAM and a single floppy drive. -- Rick Wilson | e-mail: rdw@glenqcy.glenayre.com fax 217 221 6259 | voice 217 221 6137 | ham call W0KT se habla espan~ol | ich spreche deutsch | si parla italiano From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:35:54 1996 From: Bruce Bryant Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: A Question Date: 25 Mar 1996 15:35:31 GMT Message-ID: <4j6eg3$57k@fiesta.srl.ford.com> References: <0000121F00000F09@prostar.com> > or won't do anything about it, wouldn't it be fitting for *us* to > *all* isolate these lids by *completely* ignoring them and refusing > to communicate with them? > > Or am I so old-fasioned in thinking we can work together to make a > difference that everyone will just laugh at me? > > Maybe I picked the wrong hobby... > > Lisa KC7PSZ That is the advice I have gotten from more experienced hams. Ignoring them probably won't make them go away, but at least it won't encourage them. And also, as a fellow new ham, I think you picked a wonderful hobby. Don't let a few bad apples spoil it for you. I've had nothing but positive experiences so far. -- **************************************************************** Bruce Bryant, KC8BWL e-mail: bbryant2@ford.com Opinions expressed are strictly my own, not necessarily those of Uncle Henry. **************************************************************** From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:35:55 1996 From: jackl@pinetree.microserve.com (WB3U) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: A Question Date: Sat, 23 Mar 96 00:29:17 GMT Message-ID: <4ivgva$tc@crash.microserve.net> References: <0000121F00000F09@prostar.com> lisa.keeton@prostar.com (Lisa Keeton) wrote: > Hmmmm... I'm a new Ham, so please excuse my naivette when I > ask this, since my experiences have so far been good ones... > Maybe I picked the wrong hobby... > > Lisa KC7PSZ Hi Lisa, What happens on the newsgroups is often not indicative of the Amateur community elsewhere, nor do articles posted here necessarly present an accurate depiction of Amateur conduct. Yes, there are a few idiots on the air and I share your disappointment in that regard. However, they're a small minority and their impact on the rest of us should not be taken out of context. Enjoy the hobby and welcome to Amateur Radio. :) 73, Jack WB3U From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:35:56 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: Monty Wilson Subject: Active clubs in D/FW area? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 21:10:07 GMT I know there are several active clubs in the D/FW area, but I would like to find something near Grand Prairie so my sister could drive her son to license classes. Can anyone refer me to someone in the area? -- .........Monty. mwilson@bangate.compaq.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:35:57 1996 From: Pat Bingham Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Active clubs in D/FW area? Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 15:28:54 -0600 Message-ID: <315C5616.41C6@csc.com> References: Monty Wilson wrote: > > I know there are several active clubs in the D/FW area, but I > would like to find something near Grand Prairie so my sister > could drive her son to license classes. Can anyone refer me > to someone in the area? > > -- > .........Monty. > mwilson@bangate.compaq.com Hi Monty, The Arlington Radio Club is currently running classes. I suggest you get in contact with Phil, N5PWW. He is the educational coordinator. I am at work and don't have his phone number, but you should be able to get him on 147.14 which is the AARC repeater. Very 73, Pat K5ETX From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:35:58 1996 From: Judhi Prasetyo Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Again: FT-5200 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 20:31:45 -0800 Message-ID: <315CB931.164A@iii.net> References: <315C056C.54A@iii.net> I wrote: > Please help me to fix this problem : > > I try to open out-of-band receive for my FT-5200 > by keep pressing "D/MR", "F/W" and "REV" button while > power switch on. But then my rig locked ! > > I can't turn this stuff off by pressing power button. > All front panel buttons also dont work. > I already try to press RESET button but also don't fix the problem. Now I find the problem is not because of expanded receive freq. But maybe something else. The new problem is : When I connect a speaker (internal or external) then the rig seems 'hang'. Dial knob still work but no button does including mic up/down button. The rig works properly if I remove any speaker from the unit. :-( I also try using earpiece with high impedance coil, but also can't help. Is this called 'electro-static' problem ? Anyone has idea for this ? I cannot fix it yet.... Thank you... -jps From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:35:59 1996 From: Judhi Prasetyo Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Again: FT-5200 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 07:44:44 -0800 Message-ID: <315C056C.54A@iii.net> Please help me to fix this problem : I try to open out-of-band receive for my FT-5200 by keep pressing "D/MR", "F/W" and "REV" button while power switch on. But then my rig locked ! I can't turn this stuff off by pressing power button. All front panel buttons also dont work. I already try to press RESET button but also don't fix the problem. I need the rig working, so please... please... somebody help me... Thank you so much... -jps From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:36:00 1996 From: dnorris@k7no.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Alinco DX-70, I want your review! Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 23:16:23 GMT Message-ID: <4jhjtp$7co@news.syspac.com> References: <4j5mte$atb@newsbf02.news.aol.com> kd4geu@aol.com (KD4GEU) wrote: >I'm considering buying a DX-70 is it worth buying? >I've got to have a rig with 6 meters, that's why I'm looking at the DX-70. >Your comments are appreciated! I have had my 70T for 7 months and have used it mobile (HF) and fixed on all bands. I LOVE it. It is great on HF altho the Noise blanker is a joke. There is a factory mod for it but I have not sent it in yet. Six meters is super, I have 66 Grids and 25 states with 10 watts and 6 el at 60 feet. Only a cupple real openings but it has been fun. Rcvr is good on all bands and xmtrs are xmtrs so wat can I say. If u have questions, let me know. cdn C. Dean Norris Amateur Radio Station K7NO e-mail to dnorris@k7no.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:36:01 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: Amateur Radio/Internet Message-ID: <1996Mar21.163015.28694@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: <4i02gn$nfk@newsbf02.news.aol.com> <31499E95.1D7C@telepath.com> <1996Mar16.121337.6042@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <314CD4F6.3CF4@telepath.com> Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 16:30:15 GMT In article <314CD4F6.3CF4@telepath.com> "S. Sampson" w rites: >Gary Coffman wrote: >> >We're in a period of transition. Radio, which was VERY popular to most >> >Hams in their youth, is being replaced by satellite and wire-line links. >> >While radio will always have a cult, there will never be the population >> >of the 50's and 60's. >> >> That's a surprising statement, considering that the current US amateur >> population is three times as large as it was in the 1960s, and that >> it is finally, after decades of stagnation caused by the Incentive >> Licensing debacle, growing again at rates comparable to those of the >> 1950s. > >It wasn't a debacle--the ARRL is still proud, and still in control, therefore >it is good :-) > >The US Amateur Population you cite, is probably based on Number of licensed. >But that number means even less, since people who died 10 years ago are still >counted. No-Coder teens who dropped out after 6 months of abuse, etc. That's a valid criticism of the accuracy of the official numbers as a reflection of the actual active amateur population, and I've made it myself on other occasions. However, the difference in the official numbers and the real numbers is very unlikely to be threefold, and the official numbers for 1960 suffered a similar inflation due to deceased amateurs not being promptly purged from the roles, and due to disillusioned teenagers dropping out. Both those factors existed then as well as now. So I don't think we can escape the conclusion that the amateur service has grown approximately threefold, though we may not be able to put a precise number to either the 1960 active amateur population or the 1996 active amateur population. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:36:02 1996 From: mhbailey@mhtc.net (Mike Bailey) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Antenna newsgroup? Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 02:46:02 GMT Message-ID: <31521437.3181382@news.mhtc.net> References: <4iqhil$96m@newsbf02.news.aol.com> One newsgroup is rec.radio.amateur. antenna kk5ep@aol.com (KK5EP) wrote: >I'm trying to find out the e-mail address or the news group name of the >antenna forum for hams. Anyone out there have it? Tnx a lot 73, Mike >KK5EP. 73, Mike KW9N From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:36:03 1996 From: myers@West.Sun.COM (Dana Myers) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Appropriate newsgroup for CW requirement discussion Date: 25 Mar 1996 21:34:46 GMT Message-ID: <4j73hm$f9@abyss.West.Sun.COM> Not to play the heavy-handed Net.Cop, but rec.radio.amateur.policy is the appropriate newsgroup for discussion of the CW requirement. If you don't believe me, have a look at the charter of the newsgroups. Of course, discussion of Morse code not related to the requirement may belong somewhere else. Selection of code keys and keyers probably belongs in rec.radio.amateur.equipment, for example. -- * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are mine and should * * (310) 348-6043 | not be interpreted or represented as * * Dana.Myers@West.Sun.Com | those of Sun Microsystems, Inc. * From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:36:04 1996 From: br00595@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu (Homebrew) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Appropriate newsgroup for CW requirement discussion Date: 27 Mar 1996 00:51:59 GMT Message-ID: <4ja3fg$b74@bingnet1.cc.binghamton.edu> References: <4j73hm$f9@abyss.West.Sun.COM> Dana Myers (myers@West.Sun.COM) wrote: : Not to play the heavy-handed Net.Cop, but rec.radio.amateur.policy Oh, shut up and stop playing net-cop, asshole. This is MISC! From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:36:05 1996 From: jackl@pinetree.microserve.com (WB3U) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Appropriate newsgroup for CW requirement discussion Date: Thu, 28 Mar 96 08:41:39 GMT Message-ID: <4jdjo5$s93@crash.microserve.net> References: <4j73hm$f9@abyss.West.Sun.COM> <4ja3fg$b74@bingnet1.cc.binghamton.edu> br00595@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu (Homebrew) wrote: >Oh, shut up and stop playing net-cop, asshole. This is MISC! Oh Nooooo!! I've died and gone to 75 meters! 73, Jack WB3U From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:36:07 1996 From: myers@West.Sun.COM (Dana Myers) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Appropriate newsgroup for CW requirement discussion Date: 27 Mar 1996 03:33:01 GMT Message-ID: <4jactd$jfk@abyss.West.Sun.COM> References: <4j73hm$f9@abyss.West.Sun.COM> <4ja3fg$b74@bingnet1.cc.binghamton.edu> In article <4ja3fg$b74@bingnet1.cc.binghamton.edu>, Homebrew wrote: >Dana Myers (myers@West.Sun.COM) wrote: > >: Not to play the heavy-handed Net.Cop, but rec.radio.amateur.policy > >Oh, shut up and stop playing net-cop, asshole. This is MISC! > There's one in every crowd. Perhaps you could get someone there to read the following excerpts from the "Guide to the Personal Radio Newsgroups" to you: P.S. Do you eat with that mouth, Len? ----- Begin included text ----- Followup-To: poster This message describes the rec.radio.amateur.*, rec.radio.cb, rec.radio.info, and rec.radio.swap newsgroups, as well as their Internet mailing list counterparts and complements. It is intended to serve as a guide for the new reader on what to find where. Questions and comments may be directed to the author, Jay Maynard, K5ZC, by Internet electronic mail at jmaynard@admin5.hsc.uth.tmc.edu. This message was last changed on 31 October 1994 to add the discussion of non-Usenet mailing lists and streamline most of the history discussion, and to change the moderator information for rec.radio.info. [...] The Current Groups ================== It's important to post messages to the group that's appropriate for them, and not to the groups that aren't. The whole idea of having different newsgroups is so that folks who aren't interested in, say, homebrewing, don't have to wade through messages about homebrewing on the way to read about Field Day. Posting appropriately is just good etiquette. The rec.radio.amateur.misc group is the catchall. It is what rec.ham-radio was renamed to during the first major reorganization. Any message that's not more appropriate in one of the other groups belongs here, from contesting to DX to ragchewing on VHF to information on becoming a ham. [...] The group rec.radio.amateur.policy was created as a place for all the discussions that seem to drag on interminably about the many rules, regulations, legalities, and policies that surround amateur radio, both existing and proposed. Recent changes to the Amateur Radio Rules (FCC Part 97) have finally laid to rest the Great Usenet Pizza Autopatch Debate - it's now legal to order a pizza on the autopatch, if you're not in the pizza business - as well as complaints about now-preempted local scanner laws hostile to amateurs, but plenty of discussion about what a bunch of rotten no-goodniks the local frequency coordinating body is, as well as the neverending no-code debate, may still be found here. ----- End of Included Text ----- -- * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are mine and should * * (310) 348-6043 | not be interpreted or represented as * * Dana.Myers@West.Sun.Com | those of Sun Microsystems, Inc. * From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:36:08 1996 From: w1aw@arrl.org Newsgroups: rec.radio.info,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: ARLD016 DX news Date: 21 Mar 1996 17:34:21 -0500 Message-ID: <$arld016.1996@arrl.org> SB DX @ ARL $ARLD016 ARLD016 DX news ZCZC AE58 QST de W1AW DX Bulletin 16 ARLD016 From ARRL Headquarters Newington CT March 21, 1996 To all radio amateurs SB DX ARL ARLD016 ARLD016 DX news This week's bulletin was made possible with info provided by Hans, OH2BDP, Jorma, OH2KI, Jean Michel, F6AJA, Mike, W0YR, Ron, AA5DX, Tedd, KB8NW, the OPDX Bulletin and Contest Corral from QST. Thanks to all. MYANMAR, XZ. The Central Arizona DX Association XZ1N DXpedition slated for April 2 to 12 has been postponed. A number of unsettled regulatory matters between military and ministries seems to be the crux of the problem. MARION ISLAND, ZS8. Chris, ZS5IR/ZS6RI, will be active early May until mid-1997 signing ZS8IR. He will operate SSB, CW and RTTY on 160 through 6 meters using primarily wire antennas, including rhombics and vee beams. Chris operates in contests, too. QSL via ZS6EZ. CROZET ISLAND, FT. Sam, FT5WE, plans to be up and running on 80 meters in a couple of weeks. He continues to work 30 and 40 meter CW. QSL via F6GTW. MARKET REEF, OJ0. Listen for Finnish operators on the air until March 24. Original plans called for CW and SSB, though due to popular demand RTTY will also be worked. Please be patient on RTTY, as operator OH2KI is new to this mode. QSL OH0MB via OH0RJ, OJ0/OH1VR via OH1VR, and OJ0/OH2KI via OH2KI. The next Market Reef DXpedition by OH1VR is planned for the CQ WW WPX CW contest in May. SVALBARD, JW. Three Norwegian operators will sign JW6RHA, JW9THA and JW8KT March 31 to April 7. They will use both SSB and CW. Listen for their SSB around 14248 and 21248 kHz. MADAGASCAR, 5R. Gerard, F2JD/5R8EN, will be on Nossi Be Island, IOTA AF057, March 22 to 24. Listen for 5R8EN/P. TUNISIA, 3V. XE2CQ will be in Tunisia on business April 14 to 24 and plans to guest operate club station 3V8BB. On his trip home he will try to stop and operate in both EA9 and ZB2. QSL via AA6BB. Meanwhile, Hein, DL2OBF, says cards have not been printed for the late November 1995 German operation of 3V8BB. As soon as cards are received from the printer, all contacts will be confirmed. Please be patient. CHAGOS ISLANDS. Ron, AA5DX, will sign VQ9DX until mid-June and operate all bands. QSL via Ron Marra, Marginal 301-C, La Rambla Suite 205, Ponce PR 00731. HEARD ISLAND, VK0. A recent press release announces the team now consisting of 20 operators representing 9 countries. The ops are EA8AFJ, G0LMX, HB9AHL, JH4RHF, KA6W, K0IR, K4UEE, K9AJ, KK6EK, N6EK, NP4IW, ON6TT, PA3DUU, RA3AUU, VK2TQM, W6OTC, W8FMG, WA0PUJ, WA3YVN, and 9V1YC. THIS WEEKEND ON THE RADIO. Pick up band/state credits by getting in the Alaska QSO Party this weekend. The European EME Contest will also be going on. See page 97 in March QST for more info. NNNN /EX From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:36:12 1996 From: Ed Hare Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: ARRL in FAVOR of no-code? Date: 22 Mar 1996 00:24:00 GMT Message-ID: <4isrv0$p47@mgate.arrl.org> References: <4ik94t$32q@agate.berkeley.edu> <4iq343$lpk@zeus.ieee.org> Vincent Biancomano wrote: > The history of this issue, including QST's January 1996 editorial, > indicates ARRL would be bolstering their "top management" levels in > order to promote the easing of requirements for Morse Code, through > what I believe will be a national tour or campaign by ARRL officials > to gather "overwhelming" support for their agenda. Hello, Vince, I got a bit confused, but I assume you mean the February 1996 editorial. :-) I reread the editorial and just did not see the same handwriting on the wall that you are envisioning. To quote Mr Sumner, "At its meeting January 19-20 ... the ARRL Board of Directors will be grappling with the parallel question of how to structure our domestic consideration of these issues." (I note that "these issues" covers a lot more ground than the Morse Code issue - Ed), "Membership input will be important in developing ARRL positions." > That's fair enough. That's fair enough by me, too. I have met a number of ARRL Directors in my tenure here; I have found that most of them spend a lot of time asking for Member input on the burning issues of the day. They are available by phone, by letter, by email and spend about half their weekends travelling to conventions and club meetings in their Divisions. I just don't construe that as "gathering overwhelming support for thier agenda." I construe that as "soliciting input for their agenda." >But it should ALSO be well noted that then-Director Mendelsohn stated at Ham Expo in Long Island, New York on 10 November 1990: > "There's no need for amateur radio to remain a technical hobby, > simply because technicians and engineers can't even find jobs > today. You know, my father was a plumber, and he advised me to > do the same. And looking back on it, you know, he was absolutely > right." I don't know the context, so I can't completely interpret the overall intent. I do know that since 1990, I can't recall that he has managed to eliminate the technical part of Amateur Radio, or even tried. I also know that he is still works for a major network in NYC and has not changed his profession to plumber. :-) > Is ARRL going to push for an easing of Morse Code requirements? > You bet it is! Maybe, but maybe not. From all the indications I have, that will depend mostly on the input to the policy makers of the ARRL, our Division Directors. On this forum, I have often encouraged all hams to make their views kwown to their Directors. > And it appears clear to me they will also support > an easing of theory requirements as well. Amateur radio has fooled > with this problem for too long a time. Now it finds itself in deep > trouble. Small wonder. It is not clear to me that we will support the easing of theory requirements as well. I can't see it in the February article, I can't see it in the many hours of staff time spent preparing technical publications, why, the ARRL Handbook has been increasing in technical content, not decreasing, over the years. I don't see it in the work that goes into QEX, our "high tech" magazine. And I won't read it into the fact that we are devoting a fair chunk of our resources toward the beginner; there are a LOT of beginners in Amateur Radio and we want to see them become active and integrated with us "old timers." They have our support, but IMHO, that is exactly the way it should be. By the way, if I had my way, I would see a clear strenghtening of the theory requirements. If I had my way, if the requirements for Morse proficiency were to change, I would prefer to see them change slowly, to give the Service and those who believe in traditions time to adjust. But when it comes to these policy matters, I matter no more than you, and probably a bit less; the Directors know they can ignore me if they choose. :-) But if you have concerns about ARRL's Morse Code or technical-requirement positions, please do what the February Editorial asked for -- tell your Director what direction you think we should take and why. No matter which way you see it, even if it goes against what I would like to see. . . if I had my way. :-) 73 from ARRL HQ, Ed Hare, KA1CV, ARRL Laboratory Supervisor From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:36:13 1996 From: crum@xmission.xmission.com (crum) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment Subject: ARRL insurance Date: 27 Mar 1996 11:53:06 -0700 Message-ID: I'm thinking about ARRL insurance. Any experience with it (claims)? I don't have too much stuff -- just a few FM radios for voice and computer networking. But, I lost a handheld last year while hiking! An Alinco DJ-580T! I'll certainly tether my HT nicely while hiking from now on, but a friend said that ARRL insurance covers accidently like that, so I'm interested. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:36:14 1996 From: parkin@Eng.Sun.COM (Michael Parkin) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: ARRL insurance Date: 28 Mar 1996 22:55:59 GMT Message-ID: <4jf5dv$8jg@engnews2.Eng.Sun.COM> References: <4jdcgn$1f0@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: parkin@Eng.Sun.COM I believe there is a minumum amount of insurance one must buy. The minimum is for $2000.00 worth of equipment whether you have that much or not. Mike From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:36:15 1996 From: William W Janssen Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Aviation direction finder? Date: 25 Mar 1996 07:54:21 GMT Message-ID: <4j5jfd$i3p@news.calweb.com> References: <4j4elt$ir6@nic.umass.edu> I used the same design for 144 MHz as is used for low frequency and it worked OK. You would need new electronics of course. Bill K7NOM From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:36:16 1996 From: William W Janssen Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Aviation direction finder? Date: 25 Mar 1996 09:36:19 GMT Message-ID: <4j5pej$ed@news.calweb.com> References: <4j4elt$ir6@nic.umass.edu> <4j5jfd$i3p@news.calweb.com> William W Janssen wrote: >I used the same design for 144 MHz as is used for low frequency and it >worked OK. You would need new electronics of course. > >Bill K7NOM > Just remembered that I did indeed use AM. If using FM I think the best system would be the Doppler system using two antennas spaced some distance apart. The FM generated by switching antennas could be detected by the FM receiver. Much of the electronics of the AM system would be the same in the FM system. The main difference would be the antennas. Bill K7NOM From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:36:17 1996 From: tekkie@enter.net (Tekkie) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Car`s and EMC. Date: 24 Mar 1996 02:05:32 GMT Message-ID: <4j2alc$9iu@news.enter.net> References: <4ipveh$ro8@usenet.pa.dec.com> Well, I had a 91 Blazer and it was NOISEY!!! A friend has a 95 and it's the same. I have a 95 Explorer and no noise. The Chevy dealer & I had go arounds about the noise. GM says the part is a DRA C and will make a custom one for $200+. I didn't spring... Tekkie In article <4ipveh$ro8@usenet.pa.dec.com>, robin@zso.dec.com says... > >Hi, > >I have just moved to the Puget Sound Area from GM`land and >need to buy a car. I like to run HF & VHF mobile and so EMC >will play a part in my decision making process. > >I seem to recall an article in QST about a year ago, going into From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:36:18 1996 From: robin@zso.dec.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Car`s and EMC. Date: 26 Mar 1996 18:09:21 GMT Message-ID: <4j9bsh$ms6@usenet.pa.dec.com> References: <4ipveh$ro8@usenet.pa.dec.com> <4j2alc$9iu@news.enter.net> Well, After looking into various makes/models over last weekend, we are going to opt for a `94 Camry or Accord, then get a older truck when we need to do some towing. Any comments on the Camry??.. Robin >Well, I had a 91 Blazer and it was NOISEY!!! A friend has a 95 and it's the >same. I have a 95 Explorer and no noise. > >The Chevy dealer & I had go arounds about the noise. GM says the part is a DR AC >and will make a custom one for $200+. I didn't spring... > >Tekkie > From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:36:19 1996 From: "William M. Bickley KF2ON" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Central New Jersey Hamfest This Weekend Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 14:10:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3152FB2B.7BF9@ix.netcom.com> HAMFEST! - New Jersey (Trenton) - Delaware Valley Radio Association. Sunday, March 24th - rain or shine. Vendor setup 6:30am; public 7:30am to 2:00pm. Trenton State College Student Recreation Center - Route 31 approx. 1 mile south of I-95/Route 31 exit. Admission $5.00; Tailgaters $10.00 (includes space and admission); Inside Vendors $20.00 (includes space and admission). Free parking; refreshments; handicapped accessible. Talk-in 146.67 and 442.650. For info, call DVRA hotline at (609) 882-2240. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:36:20 1996 From: paidukas@harris.com (KT4DI) Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Cheated by MARTIN DURHAM WT1S Date: 28 Mar 1996 19:13:52 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <4jeodg$kko@hearye.mlb.semi.harris.com> References: <96032417561431436@giffy.com> Reply-To: paidukas@harris.com Barry, This is a sad story indeed. Is there anyone in out here that can contact this rip-off artist and help Barry get his TNC or money back? As you can see Barry is disabled. Here is Martin Durhams address and such: WT1S Martin I. Durham 404 Spruce Cir. Jordan, MN. 55352 DOB: 14-APR-1964 I hope someone local to this address can help Barry. --... ...-- -.. . Paul KT4DI >-> From: ab409@ccn.cs.dal.ca (Barry Hallett) >-> Subject: cheated out of tnc >-> >-> The name is Barry in Dartmouth Nova Scotia, I sent a money order to >-> MARTIN DURHAM WT1S for $100.00 US funds for a PK 88 tnc. He said he sent >-> it and it is now 5 months later and no tnc. I am on a disability >-> and cant afford this kind of action. If anybody has a very inexpensive >-> tnc I am still looking for one. I hope this ham that Screwed me out of >-> money can realy sleep at nite knowing he has done this. >-> Martin I hope you read this and are happy. >-> 73 barry >-> -- >-> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >-> --------- Barry Hallett >-> VE1MUS >-> ab409@ccn.cs.dal.ca >-> Lawrencetown, Nova Scotia, Canada >-> (902)435-2364 >-> _____________________________________________________________________ From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:36:21 1996 From: dreambig@ix.netcom.com(LARRY PIKE ) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Chgo area radio classes offered - Novice thru Extra Date: 23 Mar 1996 13:30:53 GMT Message-ID: <4j0ued$63n@reader2.ix.netcom.com> References: <3150D0F2.A06@loop.com> My idea is simply this -- ham radio classes see a lot of drop-outs because the classes go on too darn long! People have better things to do with their lives than attend 6 to 12 weeks of ham radio classes. I am looking for students and sponsors for one-day license workshops. If you know anyone interested in getting their Novice ticket or upgrading to Technician, General, Advanced or Extra, please have them call me. I will teach a one-day theory seminar & workshop for any license level -- Novice through Extra. I've taught ham radio to about 300 people during the past 10 years from Novice through Extra and always enjoy the excitement in the faces in front of me. What do I need to make this happen? I am looking for a club that wants to sponsor the workshops. The sponsoring club will 1) provide a suitable room for an all-day seminar and 2) get students lined up for the classes. What will the club get in return for their effort? Classes are a great source of new members. Classes can also be an income producer if the club wants to charge for them. Keep the money as a donation to the club or let that money pay for a one-year club membership for the new ham. My services are free to the club and the students. Please call me if.... * Your club or repeater group is interested in sponsoring a workshop * You or someone you know is interested in attending a one-day Upgrade Workshop * You know someone interested in a one-day Novice Workshop 73 de WD9HCR Larry Pike (847) 776-3004 dreambig@ix.netcom.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:36:24 1996 From: pacrimgolf@saba.kuentos.guam.net (Jim Kehler) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: CODE VS NO_CODE ......SOL Date: 28 Mar 1996 08:57:46 GMT Message-ID: <4jdkab$dm5@lehi.kuentos.guam.net> References: <960325100059476@digcir.cts.com> <4jc41m$ksg@crash.microserve.net> <4jcslq$gv6@crl.crl.com> Jeff Jones (jeffj@crl.com) wrote: : WB3U (jackl@pinetree.microserve.com) wrote: : : ej.johnson@digcir.cts.com (Ej Johnson) wrote: : : >surely after 100 years we can improve on the code and make it : : >easier to learn. : : Amateurs with ages in the single-digits have learned Morse. What : : intellectual level are we aiming for? : This level; : U want 2 b a ham? Yes [] : U r a ham! : Sign ur name here ____ : If no remember sign X : Because first the code goes and then the technical content on the test goes : and then we have CB! Just look at 2 meters these days... Imagine that : on 20 meters! : Jeff : AB6MB Jeffery, If you could reword the above a bit, you probably would make more friends. Leave the 'CB' part out. I can't imagine that 20 meters is any different than 'CB' is right now. Do you ever listen to it ? Radio police all over every DXpedition, U.S. stations who get so excited about working a 'new one' they operate out of band. If you ever get the opportunity, turn on a radio somewhere in the world when the U.S. is on the other end. In a pileup situation, the Europeans are worse than the U.S., but I can't imagine 'CB' or any other band could be any worse than the ham bands when it comes to no manners and lousy operating. As for the 'technical content' of a ham test, it's already been replaced by the 'memorize the answers from the book' plan. With the morse code gone, and the answers to questions in print, we have a different ham radio than we used to have, but why does it have to 'CB'? I would imagine THOUSANDS of hams who have been hams LONG before the no-code licenses were invented are people who used to operate on 11 meters. Me included. I had to get off 11 meters before I got caught, and I wanted to persue radio as a hobby, so amateur radio was the next logical step. I would bet a very large percentage of hams who have been licensed for 20 or more years were at some time on 11 meters, but I also imagine some wouldn't admit it. Just because the people who are now influxing into the hobby are DIFFERENT than you and I are, and have different interests, doesn't mean they are in any way inferior. No-code techs are not CB'ers, they are HAMS, just like you and me. New hams don't need to be called CB'ers, they need to be introduced some other aspects of the hobby besides two meter FM. We have a lot of 'no-code' guys here - most aren't, and probably never will be, interested in the same things we are. But if you and a bunch of other people would drop the 'CB' junk, maybe they would feel like they are at least in the same hobby as we are and start looking for other things to do. It doesn't bother me that you are upset because your hobby has changed, a lot of people are. If I still lived in a high stress environment like the U.S., I probably would be upset too. But it has changed. The 'old days' are over. Nobody will ever reinstate the code test and burn all the answer books. We have a 'motto' for life out here in the Pacific, which consists of only two rules: 1. Don't sweat the small stuff. 2. Everything is small stuff. Try it, your blood pressure might return to normal..... 73, Jim KH2D From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:36:25 1996 From: Jim Daneke Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: CODE VS NO_CODE ......SOL Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 13:43:05 -0700 Message-ID: <315AF9D9.7EC9@ix.netcom.com> References: <960325100059476@digcir.cts.com> <4jc41m$ksg@crash.microserve.net> <4jcslq$gv6@crl.crl.com> <4jdj1s$s93@crash.microserve.net> > >Because first the code goes and then the technical content on the > >test goes and then we have CB! Just look at 2 meters these days... > >Imagine that on 20 meters! > > Jeff, I agree 100% that the code should stay. However, I think the > differences between 2M and 20M are due more to repeaters and > propagation than to Morse ability. > > 73, > Jack WB3U It might even get worse than CB and become 80 Meters...Here are the real freaks... Jim KI0BB From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:36:27 1996 From: andy@clark.net (andy) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Comments wanted: Standard C508a and other tiny HT' Date: 28 Mar 1996 00:11:55 GMT Message-ID: <4jclgb$juc@clarknet.clark.net> References: <960327123920_456202381@emout09.mail.aol.com> I bought a slightly used C508a at a hamfest 2 months ago. I've had dozens of different HTs over the years, but I can't remember one I enjoy more than this. The 2 alkaline batteries last longer than I imagined; when I feel wealthy (yeah, right) I put in a couple of AA lithiums which last even longer. The receiver is excellent, limited only by the unusually short dual band antenna. The aircraft receive is the best I've seen yet, as is the 800 MHz pickup. Although I have no trouble hitting a few of the closer repeaters, I use the 508 mostly as a scanner during my commute. And as a scanner, it's the most fun scanner I've ever owned. Very inconspicuous, obviously. For a rig this size, the audio output is not as bad as you might imagine. The unit itself, manufactured for Standard by Marantz, appears to be very solidly constructed. Aesthetically, it is considerably more pleasing than Standard's 2-meter monobander of the same size. One feature I really like is the absence of the squelch knob. The squelch can be set to automatic, or to different S-units. I leave it on automatic (which Standard actually refers to as "off", and it works just great. I have only 2 complaints about the rig, and they're both pretty lame: 1. The belt clip is really tight, and difficult to slip over a thicker belt. Since it seems to be plastic (but very sturdy), it's hard, if not impossible to re-shape it. 2. The APO (automatic power-off feature) shuts the unit down if it does not break squelch for the time period you select. I would have preferred the APO to shut the unit down if you did not press any buttons during that time period. As it is, it's possible for the unit to remain on forever as long as it periodically hears a station. Interestingly, some of Standard's other HTs work the way I prefer; I guess it depends on who the actual manufacturer is. So yeah, I would highly recommend the 508. You'd be surprised at what 280 mw can do!! -andy, k4adl N9QPD@aol.COM wrote: : On Tue, 26 Mar 1996 06:53:31 GMT, phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) wrote : : >Subject: Comments wanted: Standard C508a and other tiny HT's : : >I'm interested in getting a tiny, lightweight 2m or dual band HT : >(pref. dual band) for hiking, bicycling, etc. The Standard C508a : >is the lightest of the bunch, and incredibly small, like a belt : >pager. However, it is low powered (0.3 W) and doesn't have DTMF. : >Any comments on how important these issues are or anything else : >about this radio? Any suggestions of other models? Very compact : >units only, please. Thanks. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:36:28 1996 From: N9QPD@aol.COM Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Comments wanted: Standard C508a and other tiny HT' Date: 27 Mar 96 17:39:20 GMT Message-ID: <960327123920_456202381@emout09.mail.aol.com> On Tue, 26 Mar 1996 06:53:31 GMT, phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) wrote >Subject: Comments wanted: Standard C508a and other tiny HT's >I'm interested in getting a tiny, lightweight 2m or dual band HT >(pref. dual band) for hiking, bicycling, etc. The Standard C508a >is the lightest of the bunch, and incredibly small, like a belt >pager. However, it is low powered (0.3 W) and doesn't have DTMF. >Any comments on how important these issues are or anything else >about this radio? Any suggestions of other models? Very compact >units only, please. Thanks. This is a very handy "LITTLE" radio. I use it at hamfests and such were low power is not a problem. I have also used it a public service events to cross band off my mobile radio. a feature I could also use on my regular sized HT ( a Standard C528). I keep it in my backpack, and when the trains are running late, I listen to the RR freq to see what the problem is. easy to do, the radio has 60 memories, no sweat to have some wierd stuff programmed in. I also keep the NOAA programmed in to check the weather. I can also hit a couple of close repeaters in the area, But I live near Chicago, there are repeaters all over the place. But like you said, not DTMF, so I dont plan on doing autopatch with it, but as I said, I do have a mobile, and a regular HT. Just so you know, it will also receive 350, 800 (cell blocked) and 120 am. Hope that helps. Frank "there i've said it, I feel better." Giampa From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:36:29 1996 From: mkeitz@bev.net (Mike Keitz) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Comments wanted: Standard C508a and other tiny HT's Date: 27 Mar 1996 17:57:17 GMT Message-ID: <4jbvht$ma5@solaris.cc.vt.edu> References: In article , phr@netcom.com (Paul Rubin) says: > >I'm interested in getting a tiny, lightweight 2m or dual band HT >(pref. dual band) for hiking, bicycling, etc. The Standard C508a >is the lightest of the bunch, and incredibly small, like a belt >pager. However, it is low powered (0.3 W) and doesn't have DTMF. >Any comments on how important these issues are or anything else >about this radio? Any suggestions of other models? Very compact >units only, please. Thanks. I have a 508 and like it quite a bit. It is very small and light, will work for a long time on a set of batteries, and covers both 2m and 440 MHz (though it really isn't what's usually called "dual band" since it only receives one channel at a time, though the channel can be in either band.) Your situation will decide whether the 300mW power is adequate. If you are going to be near good repeaters, or working simplex among a travelling group, it will be fine. Further out in the "sticks", no HT is really going to cut it, although a traditional 3-5 W "full power" unit would be noticeably (10dB) better. If you haven't yet, borrow someone's HT and take it on a trip or two to get an idea of what you will and won't be able to do. The antenna on the 508 is OK considering it's size, but it works well in the ham bands only; it is very poor for receiving out of band signals, which is good for keeping "intermod" out, but bad for weather radio channels, etc. The 508 has a standard SMA connector which allows external antennas to be connected. As with any HT, connecting *any* antenna other than the rubber stick yields a substantial increase in range. Similarly the lack of DTMF is something that depends on your situation. If you need to be able to send DTMF once in a while, you could carry one of those pocket dialers that used to be popular before all telephones were equipped with DTMF. The lack of a full keyboard also means that frequencies can't be punched in directly, you have to VFO to them, so most operation is done from memory channels. Having only a few important buttons and a "menu" of sorts for most settings, the radio is simple to operate. The other major limitation of the 508 that is probalby shared with any "tiny" radio is that the speaker is not very loud. The noise of a moderatley crowded room or urban street is enough to drown it out even with the volume all the way up. A conventional speaker/mic interface is provided however, so you can easily plug in an earphone, headphone, etc. -Mike KD4QDM From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:36:31 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: griffin@jgfl1.allcon.com (Jens Goerke) Subject: Re: Comments wanted: Standard C508a and other tiny HT's Message-ID: References: Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 19:30:11 GMT Paul Rubin (phr@netcom.com) wrote: > I'm interested in getting a tiny, lightweight 2m or dual band HT > (pref. dual band) for hiking, bicycling, etc. The Standard C508a > is the lightest of the bunch, and incredibly small, like a belt > pager. However, it is low powered (0.3 W) and doesn't have DTMF. > Any comments on how important these issues are or anything else > about this radio? Any suggestions of other models? Very compact > units only, please. Thanks. Hi, Paul! I just bought a C508 yesterday (after long consideration) and it's just great. I have had the C408 (the 70cm version) for about a year now and the C508 definitely _is_ an improvement. 60 memory channels + 2 calling channels are more than enough for my needs. Frequency range (RX) is 100-200, 300-500, 700-1000 MHz with AM capability, so it also works as a scanner. The receiver is very sensitive and the transmitter will (here in DL) always reach at least one repeater. CTCSS encoder and tone squelch are built in right out of the box, but aren't of much use for me yet. The C508 will fit even in the smallest shirt- pocket and is light enough. Runs well on 2 AA cells, which will last rather long. To sum it all up: the C508 is the mature duoband version of the C108/C408. The package also includes a belt-clip and a carry-strap and (in DL) an SMA/BNC adapter. Hope that helps, Jens, DB9LL -- Missing coffee error - operator halted. This message may not be distributed via the Microsoft Network. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:36:32 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: meyer@idirect.com (Meyer Toole) Subject: Re: Comments wanted: Standard C508a and other tiny HT's Message-ID: References: <4jbvht$ma5@solaris.cc.vt.edu> Date: 29 Mar 96 01:43:07 GMT I agree. I bought my 508 at Dayton last year, and have really enjoyed it. No DTMF, but loaded otherwise. It even has a 1750 Hz tone for European operation. Batteries last a long time, and the receiver is very sensitive. Someone even has a fix to open up cellular receive, making it a 60 memory scanner. Meyer. VE3ECX --------------------------------------------------------------------- : Internet Direct. Have you heard about our : : (416)233-2999, 359 lines our Do-It-Yourself Webserver? : : T1 bandwidth, 300-28,800 bps http://web.idirect.com : --------------------------------------------------------------------- From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:36:34 1996 From: pacrimgolf@saba.kuentos.guam.net (Jim Kehler) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Computer receiving CW - been done? Date: 25 Mar 1996 10:10:00 GMT Distribution: rec Message-ID: <4j5rdo$sq4@lehi.kuentos.guam.net> References: Jack M Twilley (jmt@world.std.com) wrote: : I've been reading a great circuit book -- "Master's Guide to : Electronic Circuits", Harry L. Helms, ISBN 0-13-559790-0 -- and came : across two circuits which I'm very tempted to assemble. : One of them is titled "Simple 3580-kHz Receiver", and the description : says it's 'designed to receive code practice and bulletins' from W1AW. : The other is titled "Morse Code to Microcomputer Interface", and is : supposed to 'allow conversion of received Morse code characters into : characters displayed on a terminal.' : It seems like the perfect solution to learning code -- live fresh : training, not tapes, with the added bonus of an accurate translation : on the screen. The micro interface was written for the VIC-20, so I : think a small bit of porting will be necessary, and some software will : need to be written. : Any thoughts or ideas? : Jack. Jack, there's a ton of hardware been around for years to copy morse code. Most of the newer packet TNC's will do it too. No amount of hardware piled up on your desk connected to the radio is gonna make YOU learn Morse code. You have to do that with the grey stuff between your ears. It's like going to the proctologist, Jack. The sooner you do it and get it over with, the sooner you will feel better. Stop looking for an easy way and start doing it the hard way, like everybody else..... you may be pleasantly suprised that it's not near as bad as going to the dentist. 73, Jim KH2D From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:36:35 1996 From: hbcsc274@csun.edu (jerry wang) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: CW Training Software Date: 25 Mar 1996 03:18:18 GMT Message-ID: <4j539q$b0e@dewey.csun.edu> There is a CW Training software available at http://www.csun.edu/~hbcsc274 called One-CW. It is under the Software section once you get to the page. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:36:36 1996 From: cestro@pinsight.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Dealer E-Mail & WebPages Date: 22 Mar 1996 18:25:38 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <4iurb2$ga2@jolt.pagesat.net> For those looking for and wanting E-Mail addresses of dealers and manufacturers as well as links to dealer webpages, check the definitive listings at: DealerEmail http://www.pinsight.com/~cestro/pcdemail.html DealerLinks http://www.pinsight.com/~cestro/pcdlinks.html ... a combined total of over 350 and growing, continually updated. A feature of the K6PBT Dealer Directory found on many PacketCluster(tm) nodes as SH/DEALER. 73, Chuck cestro@pinsight.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:36:36 1996 From: Michael J Wooding Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur Subject: Re: Does the test involve any practical work? Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 21:20:53 +0000 Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <4iossi$s3a@ccuh.wlv.ac.uk> <4ip1mv$qko@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> In article <3150503D.5B58@rsvl.unisys.com>, Edward Stafford writes >I've always wanted a NOT gate. When is a gate NOT a gate? Mike Michael J Wooding vhf-comm@g6iqm.demon.co.uk - CompuServe: 100441,377 WWW: http://www.eolas.co.uk/ag/vhfcomm.htm (hambits.htm & hamclip.htm) WWW: http://www.clearlight.com/~vhfcomm Tel: (0)1788 890365 Fax: (0)1788 891883 KM Publications, 5 Ware Orchard, Barby, Nr.Rugby, CV23 8UF, UK VHF Communications Magazine - Especially Covering VHF, UHF and Microwaves From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:36:37 1996 From: Michael J Wooding Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur Subject: Re: Does the test involve any practical work? Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 10:01:39 +0000 Distribution: uk Message-ID: References: <4iossi$s3a@ccuh.wlv.ac.uk> <4ip1mv$qko@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> In article <4ir51i$dug@infa.central.susx.ac.uk>, Peter Reed writes >Hi Edward. I'm afraid that whenever you post to this news group you have >to be prepared for someone to pick holes in just about anything you >write and the whole thing will end up way off topic. The best policy is >to ignore the idiots and be selective as to what you read. > >I'm sure the guy who responded above knew exactly what you meant but had >nothing better to do than pick holes in, MAYBE, a slight grammatical >double meaning. Why does everybody take life so seriously? OK so some of us have a mischevious nature, but the necessary information was still imparted, even if not by the perpetrator of the *humour*. Mike - who finds it difficult to take most things seriously - especially this ng! Michael J Wooding vhf-comm@g6iqm.demon.co.uk - CompuServe: 100441,377 WWW: http://www.eolas.co.uk/ag/vhfcomm.htm (hambits.htm & hamclip.htm) WWW: http://www.clearlight.com/~vhfcomm Tel: (0)1788 890365 Fax: (0)1788 891883 KM Publications, 5 Ware Orchard, Barby, Nr.Rugby, CV23 8UF, UK VHF Communications Magazine - Especially Covering VHF, UHF and Microwaves From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:36:39 1996 From: sciencepark@ccub.wlv.ac.uk (anonymous) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur Subject: Re: Does the test involve any practical work? Date: 26 Mar 1996 13:22:26 GMT Message-ID: <4j8r2i$2e8@ccuh.wlv.ac.uk> References: <4iossi$s3a@ccuh.wlv.ac.uk> <4ip1mv$qko@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Reply-To: d9462451@ccub.wlv.ac.uk For ****'* sake, I'm the one who originally enquired about the test and if it involved any practical work. Just for all the old farts who come on here throwing their opinions left, righ t and centre without any knowledge of the sender's original abilities. 1 - I've been involved with radio myself for quite a while and know fully well the various callsigns, the 'Q' code, I've learnt morse, blah, blah, blah and B LAH! 2 - I'm heavily into computers and know my way around the various components o f a circuit board. Things that people say like:- 'Myself and many people I know spent years SWL'ing using homebrew receivers, modified ex-govt gear etc before we got round to taking the RAE. ' just cut no ice with me at all. I like radio for what it is. Non-visual commun ication, repeaters, satellites, beacons and televisual transmission. But having people come on here waffling how good it was in the good ol' days. Well I have nodesire to become like one of the good ol' boys. Thanks. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:36:40 1996 From: toyboat@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca () Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur Subject: Re: Does the test involve any practical work? Date: 27 Mar 1996 11:16:37 GMT Message-ID: <4jb82l$r4g@news.sas.ab.ca> References: <4iossi$s3a@ccuh.wlv.ac.uk> <4ip1mv$qko@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> <4j8r2i$2e8@ccuh.wlv.ac.uk> anonymous (sciencepark@ccub.wlv.ac.uk) wrote: : For ****'* sake, I'm the one who originally enquired about the test and if : it involved any practical work. : Just for all the old farts who come on here throwing their opinions left, ri ght and centre without any knowledge : of the sender's original abilities. : 1 - I've been involved with radio myself for quite a while and know fully we ll : the various callsigns, the 'Q' code, I've learnt morse, blah, blah, blah and BLAH! : 2 - I'm heavily into computers and know my way around the various components of a : circuit board. : Things that people say like:- : 'Myself and many people I know spent years SWL'ing using homebrew : receivers, modified ex-govt gear etc before we got round to taking the : RAE. ' : just cut no ice with me at all. I like radio for what it is. Non-visual comm unication, repeaters, : satellites, beacons and televisual transmission. : But having people come on here waffling how good it was in the good ol' days . : Well I have nodesire to become like one of the good ol' boys. : Thanks. --With your "attitude" problem, you have no fear of becoming one of the "good ol' boys". You will very likely remain a bitter, antisocial, bigoted group of one. It's funny really. You accuse others of intolerance for points of view that do not coincide with your own, then attack these others with your own intolerance. Hypocritical? The "old farts" cheap shot I see over and over in postings by what I presume are those under-25ish. It seems to speak of a hatred and an implied violence for those who, by an accident of birth, enjoyed a better time to live. Yes, the '90s are brutal and hard, but why bash the last generation or two for it? Amateur Radio is for everyone; young and old, technical and not-so- technical, morse and phone and packet, experimenter and rag-chewer. Abusive arrogance it does *not* need. /| / | /__| ______|_____ \ / ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ toyboat@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:36:41 1996 From: jlkolb@sd.cts.com (John Kolb) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur Subject: Re: Does the test involve any practical work? Date: 27 Mar 1996 16:26:14 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <4jbq76$cd4@news3.cts.com> References: <4iossi$s3a@ccuh.wlv.ac.uk> <4ip1mv$qko@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Michael J Wooding (vhf-comm@g6iqm.demon.co.uk) wrote: : In article <3150503D.5B58@rsvl.unisys.com>, Edward Stafford : writes : >I've always wanted a NOT gate. : When is a gate NOT a gate? When it's AJAR. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:36:42 1996 From: walt@servelan.co.uk (Walt Davidson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur Subject: Re: Does the test involve any practical work? Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 23:44:49 GMT Message-ID: <4j9vod$evt@tube.news.pipex.net> References: <4iossi$s3a@ccuh.wlv.ac.uk> <4ip1mv$qko@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> <4j8r2i$2e8@ccuh.wlv.ac.uk> sciencepark@ccub.wlv.ac.uk (anonymous) wrote: >But having people come on here waffling how good it was in the good ol' days. >Well I have no desire to become like one of the good ol' boys. At least they do not perceive a need to conceal their identities. Why do you? 73 de G3NYY -- Walt Davidson E-mail: walt@servelan.co.uk 100523.1414@compuserve.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:36:42 1996 From: malezet@MicroNet.fr (Malezet Jean-Pierre F6FLV) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Dont read : test Date: 24 Mar 1996 12:21:02 GMT Message-ID: <4j3ene$17p@chleuasme.francenet.fr> References: <4j3cdj$shp@chleuasme.francenet.fr> In article <4j3cdj$shp@chleuasme.francenet.fr>, achkar@MicroNet.fr (Malezet Je an-Pierre F6FLV) says: > >I would like to download my software (about CWMS) on a ftp.Host. >I try few time but the host denied the autorisation to download it. > >Can someone can help me : give me a permissive ham host ? > >TKS, Jean-Pierre, F6FLV@F6KRK.FRPA.FRA.EU > >73 QRO Test de réponse From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:36:43 1996 From: Richard Murnane VK2SKY Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: DX GROUP RE-UNION IN SYDNEY Date: 23 Mar 1996 05:48:49 GMT Message-ID: <4j03c1$cg@gidora.kralizec.net.au> References: <4ith2n$i9v@status.gen.nz> To: cogand@iconz.co.nz Hi Dave, If you send me details, I'll be happy to put it on the WIA broadcast for VK2... 73 Richard VK2SKY From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:36:45 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.info Message-ID: <31532811.6861@lander.es> From: "Domingo Molejon V." Subject: DX LUGO AWARD Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 23:22:09 +0100 From: "Domingo Molejon V." Subject: DX LUGO AWARD Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 23:22:09 +0100 Organization: Lander Internet Message-ID: <31532811.6861@lander.es> These are the rules for "DX LUGO AWARD": DX LUGO AWARD The "AWARD LUGO" is given for the Group DX LUGO to all the radioamateurs and S WL,GRATUITOUSLY and have the next characteristics: its size is of 44 X 32 ems., it's printed in li thography with many colours and its design was made by people of the famous ceramic art facto ry "SARGADELOS": "LUGO DX GROUP" issues this award according to the following rules: 1.- Contacts with Group members, except repeaters, after January 1st, 1983 2.- Contacts required are: - Spain.......15 - Europe...... 5 - And DX...... 3 3.- The same station can be contacted in different band, but only one contact after 24 hours with the same station. 4.- Applicants must send QSL or certificate list by one Radio Association QSL will be returned by registered mail. FREE AWARD. 5.- SWL the same rules MEMBERS OF "LUGO DX GROUP" EA1: AAA (ex: EClDNO y AO1DNO), AAB (ex: EB1EQQ, EC1DLB y AO1DLB), ABC, ACI, ADN, AEV, AFQ, ARG, AUI, AUZ, AVW, BCA, BCB, BCD (ex: EHlBCB), BCT (ex: EC1DDI), BDT, BDU, BD V, BFT, BID, BIL, BJL, BJO, BJP, BPS, BPT, BVO, BVP, BVQ, BVS, BWH, CB (ex:EAIDFH), CDA, CJU, CJ V, CKD, CKE, CKH, CMX, CMY, CO (ex: EAlCYU), CTD, CW (ex:EDlCW, EDlFSF=Oct.89, EFlFSF=Oct.89, ED 1IDA=Jun.91, ED1ILT=Sep.92 y ED0VDL=Sep.95), CYT, CYU, DAX (ex: EClBCA, ED1DAX y AM1DAX), D CT (ex: EB1AUB), OFE (ex. EClBJW), DHV, DJT (ex: EBlAYM, ED1DJT y ED1MFE), DLB, DLE, DQV, DSV, DWL (ex: EBlBMO), DWM (ex:EBlBMP), ECG, EDS (ex. EClCDH), FBX (ex: EClDBC), FDN (ex: EC1DEQ), FD O (ex: EClDEO, AM1FDO y AO1DEO), FEQ (ex: EC1DFN, AOlDFN y AM1FEQ), FFN (ex: EC1DEZ), GO (ex: EAlABW), GU, IF (ex: EAlCYV, AM1IF y EClARO), JO (ex: AMlJO), JP (ex: EAlBNW y EDlJP), KN ( ex: EClCTH, AOlCTH, EFlAA y ED1KN), ML, MV (ex: EDlMV, AMlMV, EDlRTY, EDlPAL),OJ, QB, QU, US (ex: EClCEG y EAlEVY), VM, VZ, WM, WN, ZA. EA8: TE (ex: EA1QT). EB1: BBU, BML, CEU, DHX, FIF, WL EC1: AMQ. Address: "GRUPO DX LUGO" Manager "Diploma DX LUGO" P.O. Box. 313 E-27O80 LUGO (Spain) From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:36:46 1996 From: job@netaxs.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: DXer looking for ham to answer questions Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 23:52:28 GMT Message-ID: <4jf8rq$kq2@netaxs.com> I have been DXing for years and am looking for someone who would be willing to answer a few questions by direct E-Mail. I am considering buying a general coverage tranciever and would like to get some tips as to what to look for and what is best suited for a "Greenhorn" who is trying to break the ice. Basically I'm trying to avoid learning the hard way. Anyone licenced as an amateur who would be willing to explain a few thing regarding the"rope", I'd appreciate a response at job@netaxs.com Thanks in advance. Joe (Phila).... From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:36:47 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc From: wb6w@netcom.com (Glenn Thomas) Subject: Re: Easy Method To Clean Up The Bands Message-ID: References: <4icjm2$afu@crash.microserve.net> <314C3EED.58F3@telepath.com> Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 04:42:46 GMT My newsreader claims that S. Sampson (ssampson@telepath.com) wrote: (**stuff deleted**) : You're dreaming. First of all, the frequencies are available because : of a population. Your proposal would cut the population to a few : thousand, and lose authorization. The FCC will not allow a small : segment of the population to control huge frequency blocks. No matter : how technical that population is. They won't? How many people do you think actually CONTROL the broadcast media? Far fewer than the total amateur population. And broadcast (AM, FM, TV) has a LOT more spectrum than amateur radio. For example, of all spectrum below 100MHz, broadcast has nearly half of it. If you include all of the FM broadcast band (to 108MHz), the broadcasters have more than half of it! : My second view, is that AM, FM, SSB, FSK etc be abolished. At no time will : an Amateur operate on one frequency for more than 100 ms (milli-seconds). : Each band segment should be fully converted to Spread Spectrum. An agreed : on protocol for channelization. Naw... you'd outlaw direct sequence that way - probably a better way. However, the govies are unlikely to allow much in the way of effective SS because it would provide communications that are much more difficult to monitor. Like you said, you're dreaming... -- ********************************************************************* * "Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do." * * * * wb6w@netcom.com - Glenn Thomas * ********************************************************************* From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:36:49 1996 From: uncle@iap.net.au (Brian Field@iap.net.au) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Easy Method To Clean Up The Bands Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 16:49:28 GMT Message-ID: <4j977n$df8@orange.iap.net.au> References: <4icjm2$afu@crash.microserve.net> <314C3EED.58F3@telepath.com> <1996Mar21.185023.29657@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: uncle@iap.net.au gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) wrote: >In article wb6w@netcom.com (Glenn Thomas) writes: >>My newsreader claims that S. Sampson (ssampson@telepath.com) wrote: >> >> (**stuff deleted**) >> >>: You're dreaming. First of all, the frequencies are available because >>: of a population. Your proposal would cut the population to a few >>: thousand, and lose authorization. The FCC will not allow a small >>: segment of the population to control huge frequency blocks. No matter >>: how technical that population is. >> >>They won't? How many people do you think actually CONTROL the broadcast >>media? Far fewer than the total amateur population. And broadcast (AM, FM, T V) >>has a LOT more spectrum than amateur radio. For example, of all spectrum >>below 100MHz, broadcast has nearly half of it. If you include all of the >>FM broadcast band (to 108MHz), the broadcasters have more than half of >>it! >The number of people who control the broadcast media is irrelevant. >The number of people who *use* the broadcast media is the relevant >population, and that's vast, nearly the entire public. You don't >measure a newspaper by how many presses it has, you measure it by >how many copies it sells. It's the audience that counts when determining >usage of broadcast spectrum. >Gary >-- >Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems >Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp addres ses >534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org >Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | Goes a bit further than that. One judges a newspaper by what's in it. Never mind how many presses, etc. The analogy isn't quite valid, though, for the principal reason that there is no shortage of paper, like there is on spectrum space. Fair to say the broadcasters have more space than anybody else, but only because video requires such a massive bandwidth. Nonetheless, the public (bless them, in all their ignorance) could give a stuff less about spectrum allocations, propagation, etc, so long as Johnny's CB handheld doesn't cause TVI and they get all the channels a local 'caster puts out. Control??? Ask a broadcaster what he pays for an annual license fee (for a SPOT freq.) Ask a R/E agent or courier what they pay for a SPOT freq. With the instability of a very greedy gov't over here, and considering all the complaints of "Chooks" on 2m, we are literally sweating our rocks off that we're going to lose the band. The rest of Asia has already pinched 2 megs of it for taxis, etc. Uncle Brian VK6BQN From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:36:49 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy From: mattro@radware.net (Matt Roberts) Subject: Re: Easy Method To Clean Up The Bands Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Mar 96 01:24:42 GMT References: <4icjm2$afu@crash.microserve.net> <314C3EED.58F3@telepath.com> > The FCC will not allow a small segment of the population to control huge fre quency blocks. > No matter how technical that population is. Really...has anyone seen the effect of the PCS auctions?? Independant (i.e. n ot gov't) companies are buying, yes BUYING large blocks of microwave frequencies. No, t he FCC won't allow a small group to CONTROL huge frequecy blocks...they'll just sell them to these people! How about that...the government selling radio frequencies... ---- Matt Roberts, KK5JY, mattro@radware.net From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:36:50 1996 From: jackl@pinetree.microserve.com (WB3U) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy Subject: Re: Easy Method To Clean Up The Bands Date: Fri, 29 Mar 96 06:46:31 GMT Message-ID: <4jg1cj$8u7@crash.microserve.net> References: <4icjm2$afu@crash.microserve.net> <314C3EED.58F3@telepath.com> mattro@radware.net (Matt Roberts) wrote: >How about that...the government selling radio frequencies... Actually, they're not. The F.C.C. is accepting money in exchange for licenses. A license isn't a deed of title and it can be modified or restricted after the fact (or even revoked). 73, Jack WB3U From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:36:51 1996 From: paidukas@harris.com (Paul) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Eliminate CW from rigs. See if they sell! Date: 28 Mar 1996 21:00:13 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <4jeukt$njc@hearye.mlb.semi.harris.com> References: <4ja4ro$b74@bingnet1.cc.binghamton.edu> Reply-To: paidukas@harris.com In article b74@bingnet1.cc.binghamton.edu, br00595@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu (Homebrew) writes: >How many HF rigs do you people think the manufactures could sell without >CW on them? Without filters? > >- - + + + + + + - - Len Hi Len, .. .-- --- ..- .-.. -.. .... --- .--. . -. --- - .- --- -. . .-.-.- --... ...-- -.. . Paul KT4DI Weekdays: 407-724-7879 Internet: PAidukas@Harris.com Packet: KT4DI @ KT4DI.#MLBFL.FL.USA.NA From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:36:52 1996 From: br00595@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu (Homebrew) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Eliminate CW from rigs.See if they sell! Date: 27 Mar 1996 01:15:36 GMT Message-ID: <4ja4ro$b74@bingnet1.cc.binghamton.edu> Keywords: CW is Best How many HF rigs do you people think the manufactures could sell without CW on them? Without filters? -- - - + + + + + + - - Len From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:36:53 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc From: Monty Wilson Subject: Re: Eliminate CW from rigs.See if they sell! Message-ID: Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 21:06:16 GMT References: <4ja4ro$b74@bingnet1.cc.binghamton.edu> br00595@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu (Homebrew) wrote: >How many HF rigs do you people think the manufactures could sell without >CW on them? Without filters? > I don't know, does anyone have a count of the number of CB rigs that have been sold in the US? Seriously, though the HR2510 did allow CW operation, it all but prevented it by awkward channel spacing and the absence of any kind of standard key connector. They sold 'em like hotcakes. The CW guys just weren't the market segment they were going for. -- .........Monty. mwilson@bangate.compaq.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:36:54 1996 From: Kevin Schmidt Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Eliminate CW from rigs.See if they sell! Date: 28 Mar 1996 22:30:46 GMT Message-ID: <4jf3um$2h0p@theory.tc.cornell.edu> References: <4ja4ro$b74@bingnet1.cc.binghamton.edu> As a historical note, I believe that the SBE-33 and SBE-34 manufactured in the mid 60s did not have CW capabilities built in. A lot of those sold even though the receiver had fairly awful intermod problems due among other things to the use of bilateral circuits. Compared to of other rigs of that era they were small and were popular for mobiles. The Atlas 210 (mid 70s) had a key jack, but the vfo didn't cover the cw bands. You could adjust a trimmer to swing it down there, but then it wasn't calibrated and you lost the upper part of the phone bands. The Atlas 210x did cover the full cw bands. Kevin Schmidt w9cf@ptolemy.la.asu.edu From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:36:55 1996 From: jackl@pinetree.microserve.com (WB3U) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Eliminate CW from rigs.See if they sell! Date: Thu, 28 Mar 96 06:46:23 GMT Message-ID: <4jdd05$rv3@crash.microserve.net> References: <4ja4ro$b74@bingnet1.cc.binghamton.edu> <4jcubu$qs9@castle.nando.net> <4jd34p$5sm@abyss.West.Sun.COM> myers@West.Sun.COM (Dana Myers) wrote: >On another note, there is the often quoted "38%" figure. This is the >percentage of amateurs that the ARRL concluded use HF CW, in a study >done about 5 years ago. So, if this number is to be believed, >perhaps as many as 60% of amateurs probably would probably consider >buying an HF radio without a CW mode. I don't think there's a direct connection between the number of hams using CW and the number of non-CW rigs that would be sold. Even if I only worked SSB, I would never buy a non-CW rig, simply because the number of potential purchasers would be that much smaller when I eventually sold it. For the same reason, no manufacturer would build an all-band HF rig without CW unless he had an idiot for a marketing manager. That's especially true considering the almost insignificant cost to include CW in a SSB rig. Anyway, if they did build such a rig, resultant sales figures might have little or nothing to do with the number of potential users who work CW. 73, Jack WB3U From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:36:57 1996 From: jackl@pinetree.microserve.com (WB3U) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Eliminate CW from rigs.See if they sell! Date: Thu, 28 Mar 96 20:47:57 GMT Message-ID: <4jeua5$3j2@crash.microserve.net> References: <4ja4ro$b74@bingnet1.cc.binghamton.edu> <4jcubu$qs9@castle.nando.net> <4jd34p$5sm@abyss.West.Sun.COM> <4jdd05$rv3@crash.microserve.net> <4jdf4s$883@abyss.West.Sun.COM> myers@West.Sun.COM (Dana Myers) wrote: >However, the cost to include a good CW capability in an SSB radio >is not necessarily insignificant. Geez, I can't win even when I agree with you. An examination of all the HF transceivers manufactured since 1970 shows that the majority were made CW-capable by the addition of the following: Sidetone oscillator Key jack Connections for optional CW filter(s) Extra position on the Mode switch Yes, a fully-equipped CW rig has much more, but I think that's not really what we're talking about. Someone who never works and never plans to work CW is unlikely to spend money for CW refinement in excess of the features listed above. However, that same person would probably still hesitate to purchase a rig that had no CW capability at all. Simply put, no one wants to buy a new transceiver that is immediately incompatible with what is perceived to be a basic mode of operation used by other hams. Thus . . . . The arguably limited sales of an SSB-only rig does not mean that any particular number of operators are still using CW (only a *perception* that they exist in reasonable numbers is required), nor is it an indicator of the life or usefulness left in that mode. 73, Jack WB3U From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:36:59 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: Monty Wilson Subject: Re: Eliminate CW from rigs.See if they sell! Message-ID: Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 16:42:28 GMT References: <4ja4ro$b74@bingnet1.cc.binghamton.edu> <4jf3um$2h0p@theory.tc.cornell.edu> <4jgp3t$91n@crc-news.doc.ca> Jim Cummings wrote: >It would be interesting to spectulate on the market penetration for a CW >only rig by the mainstream manufacturers. I suspect that it would be >much less that a SSB only rig, but that is my opinion only. Further >discussion or speculation or both would be interesting. I was never a mainstream manufacturer, but when I was putting CB rigs on 10m and 12m about 6 years ago, I built rigs for all modes: AM, FM, SSB, CW, and combinations. I did build one conversion for 12m CW, and it was CW only. It did sell. Of course, the swapfests where I was setting these up for sale were frequented by all kinds of hams, and at the price range I was selling them, no one was interested in resale value. Boy do I wish the spots would come back so I could work some more 10m AM up above 29.000. CQ ten-AM phone! Where is everybody? 73, -- .........Monty. mwilson@bangate.compaq.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:00 1996 From: myers@West.Sun.COM (Dana Myers) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Eliminate CW from rigs.See if they sell! Date: 28 Mar 1996 22:27:13 GMT Message-ID: <4jf3o1$k9l@abyss.West.Sun.COM> References: <4ja4ro$b74@bingnet1.cc.binghamton.edu> <4jdd05$rv3@crash.microserve.net> <4jdf4s$883@abyss.West.Sun.COM> <4jeua5$3j2@crash.microserve.net> In article <4jeua5$3j2@crash.microserve.net>, WB3U wrote: > >Thus . . . . > >The arguably limited sales of an SSB-only rig does not mean that any >particular number of operators are still using CW (only a *perception* >that they exist in reasonable numbers is required), nor is it an >indicator of the life or usefulness left in that mode. For once, we're in total agreement... it happens every now and again... By the way, *I* think there's life and usefulness (if even just recreational) left in CW. I just don't think CW is as important to the licensing process as it may have once been. I believe we could drop the CW requirement *entirely* tomorrow, and there would still be plenty of CW activity in the ham bands ten years from now. -- * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are mine and should * * (310) 348-6043 | not be interpreted or represented as * * Dana.Myers@West.Sun.Com | those of Sun Microsystems, Inc. * From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:01 1996 From: Mike Gathergood Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Eliminate CW from rigs.See if they sell! Date: Thu, 28 Mar 96 08:51:51 GMT Message-ID: <828003111snz@g4kfk.demon.co.uk> References: <4ja4ro$b74@bingnet1.cc.binghamton.edu> <4jblfn$pcc@news.inc.net> Reply-To: Mike@g4kfk.demon.co.uk In article <4jblfn$pcc@news.inc.net> willf@rrgroup.com "Will Flor" writes: > Most HF rigs don't come with decent CW filters. > They all come with decent SSB filters. > > They sell. So do the add-on CW filters. So do external audio filters (ask MFJ). So do DSP filters. 73 Mike * QRV around 0800 and 1800 most weekdays on GB3HL * G4KFK * (Hillingdon 433.075/434.675) and also 51.83 MHz * From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:03 1996 From: Jim Cummings Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Eliminate CW from rigs.See if they sell! Date: 29 Mar 1996 13:38:05 GMT Message-ID: <4jgp3t$91n@crc-news.doc.ca> References: <4ja4ro$b74@bingnet1.cc.binghamton.edu> <4jf3um$2h0p@theory.tc.cornell.edu> Kevin Schmidt wrote: >As a historical note, I believe that the SBE-33 and SBE-34 manufactured >in the mid 60s did not have CW capabilities built in. A lot of those >sold even though the receiver had fairly awful intermod problems due >among other things to the use of bilateral circuits. Compared to >of other rigs of that era they were small and were popular for mobiles. > >The Atlas 210 (mid 70s) had a key jack, but the vfo didn't cover the cw bands . >You could adjust a trimmer to swing it down there, but then it >wasn't calibrated and you lost the upper part of the phone bands. >The Atlas 210x did cover the full cw bands. > >Kevin Schmidt w9cf@ptolemy.la.asu.edu > In addition, there was the Heathkit HW 12, 22 and 32 series of monoband SSB-only rigs. I suspect, however, that their popularity was more due to that this was a reasonably priced option to getting SSB capabilities, rather than to save a few pennies from not having CW. I suspect that the market for these radioes fell out when Heath introduced the SB- and HW-100 series. It would be interesting to spectulate on the market penetration for a CW only rig by the mainstream manufacturers. I suspect that it would be much less that a SSB only rig, but that is my opinion only. Further discussion or speculation or both would be interesting. 73 and live better digitally Jim, VE3XJ From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:04 1996 From: w5gyj@primenet.com (James E. Bromley) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Eliminate CW from rigs.See if they sell! Date: 29 Mar 1996 14:31:01 -0700 Message-ID: References: <4ja4ro$b74@bingnet1.cc.binghamton.edu> <4jcubu$qs9@castle.nando.net> <4jd34p$5sm@abyss.West.Sun.COM> <4jdd05$rv3@crash.microserve.net> > Even if I >only worked SSB, I would never buy a non-CW rig, simply because the >number of potential purchasers would be that much smaller when I >eventually sold it. For the same reason, no manufacturer would build >an all-band HF rig without CW unless he had an idiot for a marketing >manager. I would never buy a non-CW rig because then I wouldn't be able to tune up at maximum power. ;-) From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:05 1996 From: kamst39+@pitt.edu (Keith A Monahan) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Equipment to purchase Date: 28 Mar 1996 22:05:08 GMT Message-ID: <4jf2ek$8tv@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> Heya people - I just purchased an Alinco DJ-580T and need to pick up some accessories but I'm not quite sure of brand quality, what to get, etc Incidentally, for those of you who don't know. The DJ-580T is a dual-band handheld transciever. First off I want 3 different types of antennas. I want a mobile antennae for my car, preferrably magmount. Next, I want a better rubber-duckie as this short stubby one doesnt do me much justice(or does it? its an alinco EA0021 vhf/uhf antennae). Next I want one for my home - dunno if I have to hang it out my window. Can someone please explain the difference between 1/4 wave, 5/8 wave, etc? Which is the best? Next, I need an amp - preferably one that handles dual-band but from what i've seen I'm not going to find a relatively inexpensive two band amp. My HT has normally like 3 watt output, 5 watt output with the bigger, better battery(which Ill be getting to). I definitely need the amp to cover the 140mhz region and I would like to be up around 30 watts from my 5 watt input. If a dual-band amp is too expensive, I don't really want to purchase a seperate amp as it won't get much use anyways. I also need a battery. Ive seen several battery replacement type things in amateur radio and CQ but Im not quite sure about quality, total usage time per charge, total charge time, etc. It would help if you knew that my radio takes about 800ma 12V battery(optimally, I think I currently have a 800ma 7V) I need something fairly portable. Has to be able to fit in a jacket pocket or at least a convienent size for taking to/from car. My current battery lasts a couple days with a decent amount of transmitting/receiving. Yet another thing I want to check into is a frequency counter. I bought radio shacks freq counter whenever it was on sale for 79.99. I found out it has become a piece of dog doo doo. Maybe I'm expecting too much of a freq counter. I want to be able to be across a mall (15 feet) and pick up the freq of a security guard transmitting from a 2watt handheld. I wanna be across the street and pick up a transmitting police officer. If I can't do these things I don't really understand the purpose of having a freq counter Now I tested the radio shack one outside, and in line of sight it picked up my 3watt trans freq perfectly. Also - if anyone has frequency lists, outside of standard police call and beyond police call material I would love it... Pittsburgh Pennsylvania is the area. Thanks for taking the time to read this, and thanks in advance to those who reply. Commercial replies welcome. If possible, please reply by e-mail as I don't always get time to keep up with the usenet groups. Keith From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:06 1996 From: William W. Munsil Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Esperanto vs Klingon Date: 25 Mar 1996 17:49:02 -0700 Message-ID: <4j7etu$22q@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> There has been some discusion here about the International Language, Esperanto versus the made for tv language Klingon. BTW, Klingo means knife blade in Esperanto. Esperanto (one who hopes) doesn't exist in Klingon. In other words, there's no hope for Klingon. Latest figures for Esperanto speakers vary between 600 000 to 2 000 000 people in over 100 countries! Over 75 countries have national Esperanto societies. Esperanto is similar to ham radio in that if you are not involved with it, you don't have any realistic idea of what is going on. So, you know where you can put your "language" Klingon! -- --- B I L from Yarnell AZ, USA N7AOU Ham TV. Lernu Esperanton! Learn Esperanto! 800-828-5944 or elna@netcom.com /-------------------------------------------------------------------- From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:07 1996 From: "Anthony R. Gold" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: facts and figures on uk ham radio Date: Tue, 26 Mar 96 10:40:52 GMT Message-ID: <827836852snz@microvst.demon.co.uk> References: <827779288.6105@skypilot.demon.co.uk> Reply-To: tgold@microvst.demon.co.uk In article <827779288.6105@skypilot.demon.co.uk> bert@skypilot.demon.co.uk writes: > UK/USA Amateur Radio Figures 1995 > ================================= > > Population No of Hams > > UK 1995 60,000,000 60,000 > USA 1995 250,000,000 672,600 > snip > UK/USA Radio Society Membership > =============================== > > 1990 1995 > RSGB Membership 35,000 30,000 > ARRL Membership 156,000 172,000 snip Yup, Bert has shown us all how badly the RSGB must suck. But before we close the book on this matter, let's try just one more cut on Bert's own numbers. What is the proportion of hams in each country who chose to join their national amateur radio societies in 1995, the only year for which Bert gives us sufficient data? UK & RSBG 50.0% USA & ARRL 25.6% Damn, the RSGB has TWICE the membership level as a proportion of amateurs versus the ARRL. That is inconveniently inconsistent with Bert's political message. Hey chaps, can we all keep this under wraps, please? Now where the hell is that delete key? BTW, I am a member of the RSGB and the ARRL and I applaud them both. Regards, -- Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM email: tgold@panix.com tgold@microvst.demon.co.uk packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:08 1996 From: oo7@astro.as.utexas.edu (Derek Wills) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Famous Hams Date: 26 Mar 1996 02:23:25 GMT Message-ID: <4j7ket$o4d@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> >> SV2ASP/A Monk Apollo Can someone explain to me what Monk Apollo is famous for outside amateur radio? Derek "not famous" Wills (AA5BT, G3NMX) Department of Astronomy, University of Texas, Austin TX 78712. (512-471-1392) oo7@astro.as.utexas.edu From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:09 1996 From: adell@planet.net ( Steve - KF2TI) Landing, NJ Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Famous Hams Date: 30 Mar 1996 16:15:32 GMT Message-ID: <4jjmn5$nd4@jupiter.planet.net> References: <4j7ket$o4d@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> > oo7@astro.as.utexas.edu (Derek Wills) writes: > >> SV2ASP/A Monk Apollo > > Can someone explain to me what Monk Apollo is famous for outside > amateur radio? > > Derek "not famous" Wills (AA5BT, G3NMX) > Department of Astronomy, University of Texas, > Austin TX 78712. (512-471-1392) > oo7@astro.as.utexas.edu > >>>> how about bar b que chicken after all....he is a friar yuck yuck yuck or maybe he's responsible for all the locked doors maybe he is the keeper of the ......monk's keys hoo hoo hooo steve From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:10 1996 From: billsohl@planet.net (Bill Sohl) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: FCC THREAT TO INTERNET Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 04:32:48 GMT Message-ID: <4iqm3f$6ia@jupiter.planet.net> References: <4idf5n$13oq@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com> <4ih7uk$nfe@news.syspac.com> <4imgge$elg@dns.humberc.on.ca> gray@news.humberc.on.ca (Kelly Gray) wrote: >dnorris@k7no.com wrote: >: VUBS79A@prodigy.com (Drew Durigan) wrote: >: >>The FCC is considering a petition, filed March 4, to exercise >: >>JURISDICTION over the INTERNET and make usage of Internet >: >>Telephony software ILLEGAL. >: Sorry but the I'net does use RF in comm satellites. In any case, >: Congress can create a jurisdiction at will, and if enough folks want >: it, they will get it, and the liberal courts will find the necessary >: language to uphold it. What are they going to outlaw? See below. >Keep in mind that the Internet is no longer a USA only network, it has many >nodes in other contries. Regardless of what laws the US Congress may pass, >those of us outside the United States are free to ignore them if we choose >to do so. Add to that the fact that the FCC can not stop the technology that permits the Internet phone. The majority of internet phone technology is software, not hardware. Is the FCC going to outlaw Internet Phone software? I really doubt it. Bill Sohl K2UNK ARRL Local Gov't Liaison, Mt. Olive Township, NJ From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:11 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: tom.blackwell@ntpcug.org Message-ID: <19960321.n3a0@ntpcug.org> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 96 23:19:00 -0600 Subject: Re: FCC THREAT TO INTERNET References: <4idf5n$13oq@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com> <4ik24s$f9f@anomaly.ideamation.com> KD> In article <4idf5n$13oq@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com>, KD> Drew Durigan wrote: KD> >>The FCC is considering a petition, filed March 4, to exercise KD> >>JURISDICTION over the INTERNET and make usage of Internet KD> >>Telephony software ILLEGAL. KD> > KD> >Get a clue! The FCC has no jurisdiction over the Internet as it does not KD> >utilize radio frequency spectrum. They cannot "create" jurisdiction over KD> >something that is not within their domain. KD> Woops.. get a clue yourself. The FCC does indeed have some jurisdiction ov e KD> the internet since alot of the traffic goes across common carrier lines. The FCC should not lose focus that Internet audio is a different quality and grade of service than the regular common carrier interstate long distance telephone service. It's about time that technology caught up with some of the assumptions made in establishing telephone rates. Consider the price of a transistor in 1960, vs. the price today. Products using transistors have decreased in price significantly over the years. Meanwhile, the price of telephone services, taken as a whole, has gone up significantly. Maybe such a petition will cause the FCC to look at some of the assumptions made about telephone rates, and give the public the opportunity to comment. Regards, TOM BLACKWELL, N5GAR, PO Box 25403, Dallas, Texas 75225 tom.blackwell@ntpcug.org tom.blackwell@why.net ARRL SGL-North Texas Sysop, NTPCUG TI PRO BBS: (214) 361-5275 Join 2200+ Members of the NTPCUG, discussing hardware & software at the Dallas Infomart --- þ SLMR 2.1a þ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:12 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: FCC THREAT TO INTERNET Message-ID: <1996Mar23.140637.8790@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: <4idf5n$13oq@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com> <4ih7uk$nfe@news.syspac.com> <4imgge$elg@dns.humberc.on.ca> Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 14:06:37 GMT In article <4imgge$elg@dns.humberc.on.ca> gray@news.humberc.on.ca (Kelly Gray) writes: > >Keep in mind that the Internet is no longer a USA only network, it has many >nodes in other contries. Regardless of what laws the US Congress may pass, >those of us outside the United States are free to ignore them if we choose >to do so. > > There is no way the FCC can be given jurisdiction over the entire Internet >for the simple reason that nobody has the authority to give them that >jurisdiction. That's true. The FCC's jurisdiction stops at the border. But the FCC can cut off the internet at the border if they choose. We've already seen the German government insist that content be filtered at their border, and the FCC could do the same for the US border. That would have an enormous impact on the internet. Every posting and every piece of Email and every file and every data stream would have to be vetted by a gateway at the border before being allowed to cross. That would pose an enormous logistical problem to the net, one large enough that it could effectively kill the net as a worldwide entity for practical purposes. Most internet traffic crosses the US border, sometimes more than once, even if its ultimate destination is outside the US. Blockages at the borders would have the same effect as blockages of the coronary arteries, it could give the internet a heart attack from which it couldn't recover. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:13 1996 From: gray@news.humberc.on.ca (Kelly Gray) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: FCC THREAT TO INTERNET Date: 25 Mar 1996 14:52:48 GMT Message-ID: <4j6c00$j4o@dns.humberc.on.ca> References: <4idf5n$13oq@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com> <4ih7uk$nfe@news.syspac.com> <4imgge$elg@dns.humberc.on.ca> <1996Mar23.140637.8790@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Gary Coffman (gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us) wrote: : In article <4imgge$elg@dns.humberc.on.ca> gray@news.humberc.on.ca (Kelly Gra y) writes: : > : >Keep in mind that the Internet is no longer a USA only network, it has many : >nodes in other contries. Regardless of what laws the US Congress may pass, : >those of us outside the United States are free to ignore them if we choose : >to do so. : > : > There is no way the FCC can be given jurisdiction over the entire Internet : >for the simple reason that nobody has the authority to give them that : >jurisdiction. : That's true. The FCC's jurisdiction stops at the border. But the FCC : can cut off the internet at the border if they choose. We've already : seen the German government insist that content be filtered at their : border, and the FCC could do the same for the US border. That would : have an enormous impact on the internet. Every posting and every piece : of Email and every file and every data stream would have to be vetted : by a gateway at the border before being allowed to cross. That would : pose an enormous logistical problem to the net, one large enough that : it could effectively kill the net as a worldwide entity for practical : purposes. Most internet traffic crosses the US border, sometimes more : than once, even if its ultimate destination is outside the US. Blockages : at the borders would have the same effect as blockages of the coronary : arteries, it could give the internet a heart attack from which it couldn't : recover. [sig snipped] That's possible, but it's not the only possibility. As the German government discovered, the Internet can be a very difficult beast to tame. While having the US block traffic would hurt the net, it might not kill it. If enough people outside the US decide to create new links to bypass the blockage by avoiding the US altogether, the result would be that the US would have effectively isolated itself from the rest of the electronic world. Neither outcome is very happy, and probably not what the authors of any such legislation would have in mind, but then politics never did have a whole lot to do with either reality or helping people. Kelly Gray From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:15 1996 From: billsohl@planet.net (Bill Sohl) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: FCC THREAT TO INTERNET Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 23:29:16 GMT Message-ID: <4jciu9$nmj@jupiter.planet.net> References: <4idf5n$13oq@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com> <4ih7uk$nfe@news.syspac.com> <4imgge$elg@dns.humberc.on.ca> <1996Mar23.140637.8790@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) wrote: >In article <4imgge$elg@dns.humberc.on.ca> gray@news.humberc.on.ca (Kelly Gray ) writes: >>Keep in mind that the Internet is no longer a USA only network, it has many >>nodes in other contries. Regardless of what laws the US Congress may pass, >>those of us outside the United States are free to ignore them if we choose >>to do so. >That's true. The FCC's jurisdiction stops at the border. But the FCC >can cut off the internet at the border if they choose. But the practicality of that is so extreme, the courts wouldn't let it happen. >We've already seen the >German government insist that content be filtered at their border, The German courts only demanded certain newsgroups be dropped by one ISP. They did nothing to address German citizens accessing XXX rated web sites, or the banned newsgroups via alternative methods (i.e. having a friend outside Germany forward every post from one or more of the banned newsgroups). In the end, didn't the one ISP impacted make the specified newsgroups unavailable to only their German customers by some ISP specific filter? >and the FCC could do the same for the US border. Not without a major public battle first and the followed with court battle. Just look at the CDA court case already working its way in the judicial process. >That would >have an enormous impact on the internet. Every posting and every piece >of Email and every file and every data stream would have to be vetted >by a gateway at the border before being allowed to cross. Which raises major issues of privacy alone. >That would pose an enormous logistical problem to the net, one large >enough that it could effectively kill the net as a worldwide entity for >practical purposes. Which, again, is exactly why it will never happen. Add to that the ability to encrypt and the logistics gets even more far fetched. The FCC does not simply rule for or against things without significant input from both sides of any pending rulemaking (and, it would take a formal rulemaking for the FCC to demand full monitoring of all internet US boundaries). This entire issue becomes one of practicality versus any real effort to thwart the internet's growth or international connectivity. So...while it is true that the FCC may have the power to invoke such draconian measures, the practical aspects of doing it coupled with the public input (rulemaking) process will not see it ever happen. And...even if it did, the court process would immediately be instituted by many organizations as is the current case with the anti-CDA supporters (ACLU, EFF, et al). Bill Sohl K2UNK ARRL Local Gov't Liaison, Mt. Olive Township, NJ From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:16 1996 From: ken.meinken@basselope.org (Ken Meinken) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Forget the Morse Code Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 17:29:00 GMT Message-ID: <960325180020636@basselope.org> Distribution: world DM>From: myers@West.Sun.COM (Dana Myers) DM>The point of my paragraph is that many non-ham radio people perceive DM>amateur radio as being of little or no value. Eventually, these perce DM>influence how the service is treated by the FCC. Dana, It's not only non-hams who have that perception. Personally, I fail to see see ham radio as having any significant value. At best, I think it has limited value in two areas: 1) As a way to attract *some* kids to technology, an interest which may later develop further. Probably only happens to a small percentage and ham radio is not really essential to the process. 2) as a hobby from which an individual perceives some satisfaction. I view ham radio as providing very little in *real* public service. Those days are far in the past. Parades and track meets, etc. went on perfectly well before we developed 2m FM. Before the flamers decend on me and claim that I don't know anything about ham radio, let me mention my experiences: Ham for 32 years, Extra for 25. High level NTS operation, high level ARPSC, RACES RO, State Mars CW Officer, Packet BBS Op (in the early days of Packet networking). I have operated all bands from 160 through 220. I was operating 6 and 2 meters before repeaters and even before FM became popular. As for emergency service, I spent 15 years in the fire and ems service. When I was new, I thought that ham radio could help. When I had experience under my belt, I realized that it could help very little. "International good will"? I really don't see what goodwill comes of the "Ugly Americans" piling up for a 20 second "579 OH, 73" contact. Technology development? I don't think so. Most of our newer technologies have been developed FROM commercial technologies, not the other way around. Technology moves too fast today to wait for any developments from ham radio. My current ham radio interest is in increasing my cw speed. Not because it has any value to anyone, but because I find cw more enjoyable at higher speeds. IMO, if ham radio totally disappeared today, I think the only significant effect would be the economic affect on the manufacturers. Please don't misunderstand. I am certainly not against ham radio. Its just that I think its real value is grossly overinflated. 73, Ken WA8JXM --- WinQwk 2.0 a#0 From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:17 1996 From: myers@West.Sun.COM (Dana Myers) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Forget the Morse Code past? A good idea??? Date: 25 Mar 1996 07:03:48 GMT Message-ID: <4j5ggk$jsa@abyss.West.Sun.COM> References: <4islv1$asi$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> In article <4islv1$asi$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com>, Peter Coffee AC6EN <72631.113@CompuServe.COM> wrote: >With the majority of newly licensed hams receiving Technician Class >tickets, I don't see how anyone can argue that non-hams as a class >perceive hams as a class of key-tappers. My experience is that people outside amateur radio are still generally unaware of the dropping of the code requirement for the Technician class license, even though it has been 5 years now. Folks just don't know. >If people don't know that those >volunteers are hams, whose fault is that? Um, possibly the ARRL PR volunteer? ;-) ;-) ;-) -- * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are mine and should * * (310) 348-6043 | not be interpreted or represented as * * Dana.Myers@West.Sun.Com | those of Sun Microsystems, Inc. * From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:18 1996 From: NEBJ09A@prodigy.com (Dave Ennes) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Forget the Morse Code past? A good idea??? Date: 23 Mar 1996 00:49:11 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <4ivhq7$11sq@useneta1.news.prodigy.com> References: <4ip5ep$1nj@bingnet1.cc.binghamton.edu> I think you will find that there a lot more hams licensed than 20 years ago. I understand that in the last couple of years there has been a few more people getting licensed. I love CW but if we have to drop it in order to get more people interested in the greatest hobby in the world, so be it. Maybe we should limit CW to the advanced and extra licenses? P.S. The last figures I heard was the average age for a ham is 58. That is sad. N7DTD Age 61 From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:19 1996 From: AA9IS Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Forget the Morse Code past? A good idea??? Date: 22 Mar 1996 07:27:49 GMT Message-ID: <4itkpl$5nr@daily-planet.execpc.com> References: <4hnk22$kr@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> <1996Mar9.135807.29697@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4i0tal$n0j@news.sas.ab.ca> <4i1ku0$4v8@crc-news.doc.ca> <4i9h1m$hrs@mrnews.mro.dec.com> <1996Mar17.020122.9068@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <314c8ff0.0@news.sisna.com> <4iqh3f$n5g@cc.iu.net> I don,t think the code requirement should be dropped. I do think some changes should be made. I think that there should be codeless privileges on H.F Give codeless access to the General portion of the bands with the same theory test a General class must pass now, or maybe a slightly more demanding test of correct radio operation on the H.F bands. Make it 13 wpm, or even 10 wpm for access to the advanced portion. Keep 20 wpm for access to Extra portion. Along with the same level of tests now used for Advanced and Extra. There are many codeless Techs who do a very fine job operating a radio on the bands above 50Mhz. What would be the difference if they opperated a radio on a lower frequency? I think it is very important to the survival of our hobby. There are many people who a very technically competent, but for various reasons would never bother to learn the code. There a many reasons why code is still important to our hobbby, and will be for a long time to come, but I don't think we should deny access to H.F. because of it. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:21 1996 From: jackl@pinetree.microserve.com (WB3U) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Forget the Morse Code past? A good idea??? Date: Thu, 21 Mar 96 22:48:29 GMT Message-ID: <4ismm9$hl5@crash.microserve.net> References: <4imud8$s49@bingnet1.cc.binghamton.edu> <4in2ij$m1j@abyss.West.Sun.COM> <4iokmc$25j@crash.microserve.net> <4ipd84$5v2@abyss.West.Sun.COM> myers@West.Sun.COM (Dana Myers) wrote: >WB3U wrote: >>Which is exactly why anyone who doesn't want to learn the code >>should buy a cell phone instead of taking an Amateur Radio exam. ;) >I see the smiley, but this isn't funny. The value of amateur radio >VHF/UHF communications in an emergency is considerable Given the choice, I'd trust my life to a well-equipped communications center operating on non-Amateur frequencies long before I'd consider placing it in the hands of operators who are poorly coordinated and potentially untrained. Emergency preparedness requires a constant influx of money and coordination of resources, neither of which are abundant in the Amateur service. >and suggesting that anyone that doesn't want to learn code should >bugger off makes no sense at all. Even worse, it may be >unintentional, but this suggestion seems to make an entire class of >amateurs unwelcome. The jury's still out regarding any benefits to be derived from the new class of no-code licenses. Will the majority upgrade or will they drop out (or worse, spend the rest of their lives on 2M, wasting spectrum and yammering about things like flea shampoo and fertilizer)? In the thirty years I've been a ham. I've seen the entrance requirements steadily weakened. First it was theory, now it's code, and soon the attack will revert again to theory. We are slowly deteriorating into a service that has no justification for the frequencies it holds, and which will have no intellectual requirements whatsoever. Eventually, we will either lose the frequencies or simply wake up one day to discover they are no more useful for our purpose than the Citizens Band. At any rate, my previous post should not be taken to demean anyone who enters our ranks with a valid interest in the hobby. What I was referring to is the fact that no-code licensees are not unaware of the need to eventually pass proficiency tests. 73, Jack WB3U From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:22 1996 From: Peter Coffee AC6EN <72631.113@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Forget the Morse Code past? A good idea??? Date: 21 Mar 1996 22:41:37 GMT Message-ID: <4islv1$asi$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> With the majority of newly licensed hams receiving Technician Class tickets, I don't see how anyone can argue that non-hams as a class perceive hams as a class of key-tappers. An earlier message said that we need a better stereotype of hams than that of the asocial mike potato with the ugly tower in the back yard. I agree, but I suggest that today that stereotype is already giving way to that of the helpful volunteer with the HT or mobile rig coordinating activities at a community event. If people don't know that those volunteers are hams, whose fault is that? From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:23 1996 From: kd1hz@anomaly.ideamation.com (Michael P. Deignan) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Forget the Morse Code past? A good idea??? Date: 22 Mar 1996 00:02:34 -0500 Message-ID: <4itc9a$37v@anomaly.ideamation.com> References: <4imud8$s49@bingnet1.cc.binghamton.edu> <4in2ij$m1j@abyss.West.Sun.COM> <4iokmc$25j@crash.microserve.net> <4ipd84$5v2@abyss.West.Sun.COM> In article <4ipd84$5v2@abyss.West.Sun.COM>, Dana Myers wrote: > The value of amateur radio > VHF/UHF communications in an emergency is considerable, and suggesting > that anyone that doesn't want to learn code should bugger off makes > no sense at all. Even worse, it may be unintentional, but this suggestion > seems to make an entire class of amateurs unwelcome. Unfortunately, a significant majority (or perhaps a very vocal minority) of tech-lites in this region (RI) are scumbags and n'er-do-wells that merely view amateur radio as "grown up CB". Its "cool" because when you un-key you don't need a roger-beep, the repeater does it for you! (Although recently some morons have taken to using roger-beep mics on local repeaters that already have courtesy tones.) Ten years ago you would never discuss what equipment you had, if you were going on vacation, etc., because someone with a scanner might be listening and they might try to break in to your house. Today the same concern exists, except it isn't the "scanner" users that might break in, its the scumbags we've let in to the hobby since 1991. MD -- -- -- "I have more guns than I need, and less guns than I want." -- Phil Graam -- -- If you don't like my opinions, that's just too damn bad. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:24 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: bb840@scn.org (James Aeschliman) Subject: Re: FR-146 FM Receiver Kit Message-ID: Reply-To: bb840@scn.org (James Aeschliman) References: <314F1727.6CD3@orion.ee.stcloud.msus.edu> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 18:25:52 GMT In a previous article, bremer@orion.ee.stcloud.msus.edu (Dave Bremer) says: >My partner and I are using the Ramsey FR-146 2-Meter FM receiver kit to >receive data broadcast at a frequency of 155.445 MHz. The data is sent >with a 6 second delay between each new message. We are having trouble >squelching out the noise during the 6 second delay period. The squelch >seems to either cut out nothing or it cuts out everything including the >data being broadcast. If anyone has any information regarding this kit >or where we could receive help, we would appreciate hearing about it. >Please e-mail any comments or suggestions. > Try turning the volume all the way down and leaving the squelch wide open. -- Jim Aeschliman bb840@scn.org Black Diamond, Washington KD7MK From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:25 1996 From: Geoff Brown Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur Subject: French VHF Convention Date: 30 Mar 1996 17:41:17 GMT Message-ID: <4jjrnt$gmf@fhbgb1.itl.net> Anybody going to the French VHF Convention on April 12/13? de Geoff GJ4ICD (will be going with Alan GJ4ZUK) From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:26 1996 From: Marcus Kozica Newsgroups: alt.forsale,rec.radio.swap,misc.industry.electronics.marketplace,uk.forsale,uk.radio.amateur,uk.adverts.other,rec.radio.amateur.misc,sci.electronics.basic,sci.electronics.repair,austin.forsale,rec.audio.pro,swnet.pryltorg Subject: FS: Tektronix Oscope 2246 Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 17:40:13 +0100 Message-ID: <31581DED.2781E494@nada.kth.se> Tektronix oscilloscope 2246, four chanels, with probes, hardly used $1400 Marcus, Sweden From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:27 1996 From: kovar@zeus.ia.net (Jack Kovar KE0AX) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: FS:Motorola Voice recognition phone Date: 29 Mar 1996 08:03:04 GMT Message-ID: <4jg5fo$1mi@hera.ia.net> I would like to sell my Voice recognition Motorola cellular phone system. It is a full three watt phone using voice recognition to dial phone numbers and responds with voice confirmation to each command. Includes transportable case or car kit. Also a VCR training tape from motorola. WILL TRADE for Ham equipment or best reasonable offer. This is a version 8922 for you who need a extension phone! Software included. Thanks, Jack Kovar ke0ax@ia.net From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:28 1996 From: Dave Hand Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: FT 990 update??? Date: 26 Mar 1996 15:05:55 GMT Message-ID: <4j914j$ern@jeefers.microdes.com> I thought I heard reference to a PIN diode update to the FT 990 As I recall it was suposed to improve adjacent channel rejection. Anyone know about this or am I just dreaming??? Dave Hand WB4HYP dhand@microdes.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:29 1996 From: "John P. Hollingshead" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: FT-530 Problem Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 20:19:19 -0600 Message-ID: <3159F727.2AF8@hollingshead.com> I have an FT-530. A year or so ago I did the extended coverage mod. Recently, the mod stopped working. I now have normal coverage only. I would like two things. First of all, if anyone has the jumper configuration from the factory (I think that I may have touched one together by accident and can't remember what the settings were to check them) and if possible, a solution to the problem. I'd appreciate any help I could get. Tnx 73's -- John P. Hollingshead III (KB5SXH) [JH1180] President Texas Data Systems Pearland, Tx (713) 485-0394 Fax: 485-8223 avdeal@hollingshead.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:30 1996 From: cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Christopher K Greenhalgh) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment Subject: GE Master II queries Date: 26 Mar 1996 17:19:38 GMT Message-ID: <4j98va$h9g@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Hello all. I got my hands on a GE Master II UHF rig with remote console, interface, cable, external speaker, and mic...basically complete. I am wanting to put it on 9600 baud packet, and am trying to gather any and all information about it. IE; watts, amp draw, pin out of console and mic, where to get crystals, value, and just ANY other info you may would be appreciated. A schematic for this rig would probably bring tears to my eyes. :) Thanks much, & take care. -- Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT Computer/Electronic Tech. II at The Ohio State University E-Mail: ckg+@osu.edu (cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) AX.25 : n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:31 1996 From: myers@West.Sun.COM (Dana Myers) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment Subject: Re: GE Master II queries Date: 28 Mar 1996 16:50:18 GMT Message-ID: <4jeg0a$fk7@abyss.West.Sun.COM> References: <4j98va$h9g@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <1996Mar28.163425.6420@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> In article <1996Mar28.163425.6420@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, Gary Coffman wrote: >In article <4j98va$h9g@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> cgreenha@magnus.acs.o hio-state.edu (Christopher K Greenhalgh) writes: >>Hello all. >> >>I got my hands on a GE Master II UHF rig with remote console, interface, >>cable, external speaker, and mic...basically complete. >> >>I am wanting to put it on 9600 baud packet, and am trying to gather any >>and all information about it. IE; watts, amp draw, pin out of console and >>mic, where to get crystals, value, and just ANY other info you may would >>be appreciated. A schematic for this rig would probably bring tears to >>my eyes. :) [...] >The second problem is a little harder to fix right. The receiver IF >filter is too narrow, and there will be considerable phase distortion >of the eye. I don't know where to get wider drop-in filters. There is >a kludge that works if you aren't in a high signal area, however. That's >to just bypass the IF filter with a gimmick capacitor. Better is to >fit a wider filter, though you are going to have to adapt it, use a >bit of perf board. Murata makes suitable filters. (Note, if you're ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ What IF does the Mastr II use? The Mastr Exec/Custom MVPs I've tinkered with use a single 11.2MHz IF - my Murata catalog doesn't list anything quite like this ;-). -- * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are mine and should * * (310) 348-6043 | not be interpreted or represented as * * Dana.Myers@West.Sun.Com | those of Sun Microsystems, Inc. * From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:32 1996 From: mazalr@bgumail.bgu.ac.IL (Mazal & Earl Rubin) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: GemQuad Antenna Date: 27 Mar 96 16:04:21 GMT Message-ID: <199603271604.TAA01250@bgumail.bgu.ac.il> A friend has aquired a used 5 band 2 element genuine Manitoba GemQuad in good condition, but without the instruction book. We want to re-string the elements and would be indepted if some helpful GemQuad owner could e-mail me the loop dimensions, lengths, spacings etc. needed to get this antenna back on the air. Thanks in advance. 73 Earl, 4Z4TJ From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:33 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: griffin@jgfl1.allcon.com (Jens Goerke) Subject: Re: German Hamfest Message-ID: References: <4jgo0n$hhm@madeline.INS.CWRU.Edu> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 16:44:29 GMT William J. Graham (dl278@cleveland.Freenet.Edu) wrote: > Greetings from Camp Lisa, Bosnia > Would someone tell me when the big German hamfest is this year? > I'm due to leave here on 17 May and hope to get to it this year, > I've been trying to make it for the last 3 y years and something has come > up each time. The Ham Radio is 28.-30. june in Friedrichshafen. That's friday to sunday. If you want to camp on site you might want to arrive moday or tuesday. See you there, Jens, DB9LL -- Missing coffee error - operator halted. This message may not be distributed via the Microsoft Network. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:33 1996 From: dl278@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (William J. Graham) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: German Hamfest Date: 29 Mar 1996 13:19:19 GMT Message-ID: <4jgo0n$hhm@madeline.INS.CWRU.Edu> Reply-To: dl278@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (William J. Graham) Greetings from Camp Lisa, Bosnia Would someone tell me when the big German hamfest is this year? I'm due to leave here on 17 May and hope to get to it this year, I've been trying to make it for the last 3 y years and something has come up each time. 73 Bill N5LMX/DA1WG . -- Never Thirst ! "My head hurts, my feet stink and I don't love Jesus!"- J. Buffett From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:36 1996 From: mitch@primenet.com (mlmitchell) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Get your Ticket from Deal Date: 26 Mar 1996 10:52:01 -0700 Message-ID: <31581fab.11239272@news.primenet.com> References: <35e_9603222217@woodybbs.com> Reply-To: mitch@primenet.com Clint.Bradford@228.woodybbs.com (Clint Bradford) wrote: > >The Telecommunications Act of 1996 removes the conflict of interest >wording from existing FCC regulations...allowing your local Ham Dealer >to become a Volunteer Examiner, and give you your Amateur test. > >Does this bother anyone? Or am I simply getting too conservative in my >old age? > > >clint.bradford@atdbbs.com >--- > * TLX v4.00 * ATTENTION to Details AMATEUR RADIO BBS - 909/681-6221 > * wcECHO 4.1 ~ AR-Net: ATTENTION to Details * Mira Loma, CA * 909-681-6221 >-- >|Fidonet: Clint Bradford 1:2619/228 >|Internet: Clint.Bradford@228.woodybbs.com >| >| Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. > Clint, It is illegal, per part 97, for a dealer who directly has an involvement in the sale or distribution of ham radio equipment to participate in the VE system. I will double check, but I am sure this is what it reads. 73 Bill From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:37 1996 From: gfiber@halcyon.com (Gary Fiber) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Get your Ticket from Deal Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 13:46:05 GMT Message-ID: <4jbh56$a10@news.halcyon.com> References: <35e_9603222217@woodybbs.com> <31581fab.11239272@news.primenet.com> mitch@primenet.com (mlmitchell) wrote: >>The Telecommunications Act of 1996 removes the conflict of interest >>wording from existing FCC regulations...allowing your local Ham Dealer >>to become a Volunteer Examiner, and give you your Amateur test. It is illegal, per part 97, for a dealer who directly has an >involvement in the sale or distribution of ham radio equipment to >participate in the VE system. I will double check, but I am sure this >is what it reads. >73 >Bill Bill, I think this has changed because of theTelecommunications Act of 1996. I saw something posted to this effect on CompuServe's HamNet forum lately. Now those n the industry can also be a VE if they want. Possiably the www.fcc.gov site might have something on just how this affects amateur radio. Also another topic the FCC site also has a 50 page report on the effects of electromatic radiation and the amateur station, it is pretty interesting ad\s the FCC tested about every antenna. Gary From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:38 1996 From: jlkolb@sd.cts.com (John Kolb) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Get your Ticket from Deal Date: 27 Mar 1996 16:23:50 GMT Message-ID: <4jbq2m$cd4@news3.cts.com> References: <35e_9603222217@woodybbs.com> <31581fab.11239272@news.primenet.com> mlmitchell (mitch@primenet.com) wrote: : Clint.Bradford@228.woodybbs.com (Clint Bradford) wrote: : > : >The Telecommunications Act of 1996 removes the conflict of interest : >wording from existing FCC regulations...allowing your local Ham Dealer : > : >Does this bother anyone? Or am I simply getting too conservative in my : >old age? : Clint, : It is illegal, per part 97, for a dealer who directly has an : involvement in the sale or distribution of ham radio equipment to : participate in the VE system. I will double check, but I am sure this : is what it reads. This was changed within the last month by the 1966 Telecom act. John Kolb SANDARC and W5YI VE KK6IL From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:39 1996 From: Clint.Bradford@228.woodybbs.com (Clint Bradford) Date: 25 Mar 96 00:25:00 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Ham radio at the Olym Message-ID: <395_9603250537@woodybbs.com> >>I get the impression that its more an issue of "We want to be in >>control of everything." You thought the Olympics were a democratic institution - abiding by the United States' rules and regulations? Nope. The whole world will be here and will be watching. All the power to the organizers. And if that means leaving my HT and cellular telephone in the hotel room, then that's just fine. We should support all efforts to making this country shine in the eyes of the world. If that infringes a little on your activities - fine. Stay home and watch it on television. --- * wcECHO 4.1 ~ AR-Net: ATTENTION to Details * Mira Loma, CA * 909-681-6221 -- |Fidonet: Clint Bradford 1:2619/228 |Internet: Clint.Bradford@228.woodybbs.com | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:40 1996 From: mcs@crl.com (Nicholas McLarty) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Ham radio at the Olympic Games Date: 24 Mar 1996 18:09:47 -0800 Message-ID: <4j4v9b$prs@crl11.crl.com> References: <4im8hl$n9k@a3bsrv.nai.net> <4in2uh$m5n@abyss.West.Sun.COM> <4io3le$cq3@crl10.crl.com> <4is1a9$rmc@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Brian D. Suggs (suggs@alumnae.caltech.edu) wrote: : Even if you buy this argument, does that mean that only the two meter band : is the problem? If I try to bring in a 440 MHz radio are you still going to : complain? If your 150 MHz radio can't handle having a legally operating : 148 MHz radio nearby, your solution is to ban the other radio? Should a ham : convention be able to ban public service 150-155 MHz radios from their event ? : What's the point of having the FCC license other services to certain bands i f : you're just going to say, "Yeah, but that's still to close to our frequencie s."? I definitely agree with you on this, I'm just trying to make an excuse for those losers at the Olympic planning committee. :) However, I'm just going to answer your quesitons for the fun of it... A 440 MHz radio may possibly, even though it's probably unlikely, interfere with a poorly maintained 450 MHz commercial-band radio. :) If the 150 MHz radio is getting too much interference from a maintained 148 MHz radio, the person operating that 150 MHz radio is probably too radio illiterate to understand that it's their radio's problem, and will in turn say it's the ham operator's fault. From most of the ones I've been to, ham events don't have many 150 MHz radios there, but still...if it's interfering, hey...go for it. :) Okay, hopefully I'm done making excuses for the Olympic committee. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ NICHOLAS R. McLARTY, C/TSgt, AFJROTC mcs@crl.com Texas 882nd AFJROTC Group: San Antonio, TX Amateur Radio Operator - KC5IUZ Official Emergency Station - South Texas Section, ARRL PGP Fingerprint 64 29 66 2B B4 53 C2 8D 33 73 A7 33 16 78 D1 05 Personal Home Page http://www.crl.com/~mcs TX-882 AFJROTC Web Page Appendix http://sparc2.umeres.maine.edu:5000 From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:41 1996 From: John Morris Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur Subject: Re: Ham radio in UK Date: 22 Mar 1996 12:18:05 GMT Message-ID: <4iu5pt$pn8@crab.spider.co.uk> References: <4imdgl$a0f@ccuh.wlv.ac.uk> <4imhaa$2ml@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> ard12@eng.cam.ac.uk (A.R. Duell) wrote: >A question for others : After the change in the exam, will class B >licensees who then pass the morse test be granted a class A license, or >will they have to take the new written exam as well ? The exam format is changing, but the rules remain the same - an RAE pass, no matter how old, gets you a B licence; added to the Morse test gets you the A. This applies to the old "essay" style RAE, the current two paper RAE, and the impending single paper RAE. 73, John, GM4ANB From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:42 1996 From: roland.stiner@hobbs.com (ROLAND STINER) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: HAM RADIO IS A CALLING Message-ID: <8BD71AA.0029004727.uuout@hobbs.com> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 96 07:06:00 -0500 Distribution: world Reply-To: roland.stiner@hobbs.com (ROLAND STINER) To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us Subject: HAM RADIO IS A CALLING G>Many non-hams are still surprised to learn that they could get an amateur >license without a Morse test. This is a failure of marketing. Many others, Funny, when I entered the hobby, (I have been licensed since 1983) if you had an interest in RADIO per se, YOU found ham radio, not the other way around. My point is that there is no need for marketing if the interest is there. If it is not, there is no amount of marketing you can do to win a person over. In other words, the people will come if they want to-ham radio is not a new "flavor" of ice cream-it's a calling. --- OLX 1.53 --------------> 73, de NK2U <---------------- * Origin: CyberNet BBS Lyndhurst, NJ (1:2604/151) .....oooooOOOOOo http://www.intac.com/~cono __,-----. ---+_________#_ The Roy Hobbs BBS sysop@hobbs.com |________| |__|___________} Node 1: 201-641-7307 ooooo oo ~ ooO-O-O-O == oo\ Node 2: 201-641-3126 From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:43 1996 From: armond@delphi.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: HAM RADIO IS A CALLING Date: Wed, 27 Mar 96 01:20:01 -0500 Message-ID: References: <8BD71AA.0029004727.uuout@hobbs.com> ROLAND STINER writes: >G>Many non-hams are still surprised to learn that they could get an amateur > >license without a Morse test. This is a failure of marketing. Many others, No, in my opinion you still don't get an AMATEUR RADIO LICENSE without a code test. Anything else is a boxtop or crackerjack prize license. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:44 1996 From: wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: HAM RADIO IS A CALLING Date: 27 Mar 1996 11:59:11 GMT Message-ID: <4jbaif$abn@cc.iu.net> References: <8BD71AA.0029004727.uuout@hobbs.com> Reply-To: wnewkirk@iu.net (Bill Newkirk) In <8BD71AA.0029004727.uuout@hobbs.com>, roland.stiner@hobbs.com (ROLAND STINE R) writes: >Funny, when I entered the hobby, (I have been licensed since >1983) if you had an interest in RADIO per se, YOU found ham radio, >not the other way around. My point is that there is no need for >marketing if the interest is there. If it is not, there is no amount of >marketing you can do to win a person over. well...there's never been more choices for what to do with leisure time than ever before. marketing makes sure that the potential amateur at least is aware of amateur radio. i'd never heard of it before i'd read a friend's old electronics illustrated (think that was the mag) that has a column in it by w2nsd...in the late 60s'/early 70's that was about all the "marketing" that wa s done for amateur radio... everyone else is out trying to call attention to themselves so to get more bus iness or more activities up and running. amateur radio should not stand idly by. Bill Newkirk WB9IVR The Space Coast Amateur Technical Group Melbourne, FL duty now for the future of amateur radio Lombardi's 1st Law of Business: Companies succeed in spite of their best effort. If they succeed at all. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:45 1996 From: jbaltz@news.cs.columbia.edu (Jerry B. Altzman) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy Subject: Re: HAM RADIO IS A CALLING Date: 27 Mar 1996 11:45:47 -0500 Message-ID: <4jbrbr$c31@tune.cs.columbia.edu> References: <8BD71AA.0029004727.uuout@hobbs.com> In article , wrote: >ROLAND STINER writes: >>G>Many non-hams are still surprised to learn that they could get an amateur >> >license without a Morse test. This is a failure of marketing. Many others, >No, in my opinion you still don't get an AMATEUR RADIO LICENSE without a >code test. Anything else is a boxtop or crackerjack prize license. Your opinion doesn't count: you don't issue licenses. Please respect the Followup-To: line. //jbaltz -- jerry b. altzman Entropy just isn't what it used to be +1 212 650 5617 jbaltz@cs.columbia.edu jbaltz@scisun.sci.ccny.cuny.edu KE3ML From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:47 1996 From: myers@West.Sun.COM (Dana Myers) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: HAM RADIO IS A CALLING Date: 28 Mar 1996 23:05:01 GMT Message-ID: <4jf5ut$kps@abyss.West.Sun.COM> References: <8BD71AA.0029004727.uuout@hobbs.com> <4jesli$14la@chnews.ch.intel.com> In article <4jesli$14la@chnews.ch.intel.com>, Cecil Moore wrote: >armond@delphi.com wrote: >>No, in my opinion you still don't get an AMATEUR RADIO LICENSE without a >>code test. Anything else is a boxtop or crackerjack prize license. > >Hi Armond, I'll second that and go a little further. Only hams using >mechanical keys for Morse code deserve the license. Electronic keys >and keyboards are for digital nerds. Can you define "mechanical key"? Both my straight key and my bi key (two paddles, what did you think I meant?) have mechanical contacts. Does this make me a real ham? ;-) -- * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are mine and should * * (310) 348-6043 | not be interpreted or represented as * * Dana.Myers@West.Sun.Com | those of Sun Microsystems, Inc. * From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:47 1996 From: Cecil Moore Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: HAM RADIO IS A CALLING Date: 28 Mar 1996 20:26:26 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <4jesli$14la@chnews.ch.intel.com> References: <8BD71AA.0029004727.uuout@hobbs.com> armond@delphi.com wrote: >No, in my opinion you still don't get an AMATEUR RADIO LICENSE without a >code test. Anything else is a boxtop or crackerjack prize license. Hi Armond, I'll second that and go a little further. Only hams using mechanical keys for Morse code deserve the license. Electronic keys and keyboards are for digital nerds. 73, Cecil, KG7BK, OOTC (not speaking for my employer) From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:48 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: kb6axk@netcom.com (Joe Cira) Subject: HAM-INFO-LINK-SOURCE-BBS Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 03:18:17 GMT HELLO FELLOW HAMS:and FUTURE HAMS !!!!!!! HAM BBS dedicated to amateur radio !!!! There is a DEVOTED AMATEUR RADIO BBS in town ,from your ARRL/LAX affiliated club coordinator , JOE CIRA , KB6AXK ........... Everything and anything about AMATEUR RADIO will be found here, IF NOT ? Let me know and we will post it and file it !!!!!!!! HAM*INFO*LINK*SOURCE BBS at 1-818-584-1952.... 24 hrs,8-n-1,anyspeed....... running 486/66 with 2.1 gig of space !!! TNC/PACKET DOOR IS UP & RUNNING !!! qsl route database,clubs,newsletters,bulletins,shareware,utility mods,programs,test ques,lists,software and much more.... VEC/VE exam & class list for all So.Cal. sample exam tests and answers for all class's.. ARRL mirror of all there files ! Using Wildcat v4.11 software.. easy to log in and no FEE's it's FREE ! 5,800 FILES IN 117 FILE AREA'S..so far ! ***GOOD NEWS THE LANDLINE TO HAM PACKET DOOR IS UP AND RUNNING********** ARE YOU ON THE HAM DOOR USERS LIST ??????? latest list of AMATEUR RADIO WEB SITES,now 648 sites ? 73's & 88's de kb6axk,joe cira,ARRL/LAX/ACC. INTERNET E-MAIL ADDRESS:> kb6axk@ix.netcom.com /EX S From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:50 1996 From: rzancha@moultrie.com (Ralph Zancha) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Hamfest - fest96.txt [1/1] Date: 25 Mar 1996 01:42:01 GMT Message-ID: <4j4tl9$fgm@ns.inw.net> M.A.R.K. P.O. Box 91 Lovington, IL 61937 The Moultrie Amatuer radio Klub would like to announce our 34th annual Sulliva n , IL Hamfest. NOTICE: The hamfest has been moved to the Moultrie/Douglas county fair grounds in Arthur, IL and will be held on April 21, 1996. The fair grounds is located just south of Illinois Rt. #133 by the Arthur High School. Also Rockome Gardens opens this same day so bring the whole family. The hamfest will be an all weather facility this year. The indoor spaces are a vailable on a first come first serve basis. Tables will be $8.00 per 8 foot table. Tables will onl y be reserved if payment is recieved in advance. Send reservations to M.A.R.K., P.O. Box 91, Lo vington, IL, 61937. Or call evenings at 217-873-5287 ask for Ralph Zancha WC9V. There will also be room for outdoor flea market setup if weather permits free. Setup in the indoor are a's Will be on Saturday from Noon untill 4:00 P.M. and on Sunday morning from 6:00 A.M. until l 8:00 A.M. Admission is $4.00 per person over the age of 14 years old. Talkin will be on 146.055/146.655 and 449.275/444.275. For more information call the above phone number evenings and weekends. NOTICE: THERE WILLL BE NO EXAMS THIS YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks Ralph Zancha Hamfest Chairman From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:51 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: psoper@encore.com (Pete Soper) Subject: Re: Help! Where should I send checklog for French contest '96? Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 14:03:56 GMT Message-ID: References: "valery@magius.spb.su" writes: (msg conveyed by subject line) Direct email to you failed, so here's part of the REF contest data for all the hoards to have to skip over: >LOGS: Logs must be submitted within > March 15th for CW > April 15th for SSB > > to: > > Reseau des Emetteurs Francais > REF Contest > BP 2129 > 37021 TOURS cedex > FRANCE Regards, Pete Soper KS4XG From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:52 1996 From: joes@halsey.com (Joe Sullivan) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: How do I run 50 ohm wire thru the wall? Date: 28 Mar 1996 04:37:01 GMT Message-ID: <4jd51d$kon@news0.rain.rg.net> I am remodeling my garage into living space and a Ham shack. What is the recommended way to run coax thru the wall? I would like to know what I am doing before I get to the sheetrock stage. Post answers here or email me at Joes@halsey.com Thank You From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:53 1996 From: wsoon@primenet.com (Bill Soon) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: How do I run 50 ohm wire thru the wall? Date: 28 Mar 1996 19:32:02 -0700 Message-ID: <4jfi32$4v0@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <4jd51d$kon@news0.rain.rg.net> <828003179snz@g4kfk.demon.co.uk> Reply-To: wsoon@primenet.com Be sure to put a 90 degree elbow pointing down on the outside wall -- this will keep the water out when it rains ! -- Bill, KF6ZO Mike Gathergood wrote: >In article <4jd51d$kon@news0.rain.rg.net> joes@halsey.com "Joe Sullivan" writ es: >> I am remodeling my garage into living space and a Ham shack. What is the >> recommended way to run coax thru the wall? I would like to know what I am >> doing before I get to the sheetrock stage. >> Post answers here or email me at Joes@halsey.com >> Thank You >There's an article on this in March's QST. >73 >Mike * QRV around 0800 and 1800 most weekdays on GB3HL * >G4KFK * (Hillingdon 433.075/434.675) and also 51.83 MHz * wsoon@primenet.com http://www.primenet.com/~wsoon/ From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:53 1996 From: taylor@tix.timeplex.COM (Seth Taylor) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: How do I run 50 ohm wire thru the wall? Date: 29 Mar 96 17:08:30 GMT Message-ID: <9603291701.AA01700@tix.timeplex.com> In addition to Gary's comment, seal the pipe at the entrance on the outside to keep out crawling and flying things with a product sometimes called "DUX" or "Duct Seal". It an all temperature electrical filling putty (something like play dough) sold at electrical supply houses and also at The Home Depot. It's sold in 1 lb. bricks for a couple of dollars. Seth KC2WE From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:54 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: jmt@world.std.com (Jack M Twilley) Subject: How to find list of clubs in Boston? Message-ID: Distribution: rec Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 00:45:31 GMT I'm interested in finding a list of clubs in the Boston area. I'm interested in packet and talking as well as other parts of being a licensed amateur. Building gizmos is another big interest. :-) Jack. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:55 1996 From: mwcook@cris.com (Mike Cook - AF9Y) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur Subject: Hyakutake Comet Radio Bounce Test Results Date: 24 Mar 1996 19:36:10 GMT Message-ID: <4j487a$mhc@tribune.cris.com> Hyakutake Comet Radio Bounce Test Results Based on poor ionization at VHF, it appears that Hyakutake Comet bounce is doubtful. Never the less, last night I made a concerted effort. Here are the results: - System used was my 2mtr EME station and the FFTDSP42 program. EME Signal echo detection S/N margin is 20+ dB with FFTDSP42 integration set to 1. - For the comet bounce test, integration was set to 8 for a detection increase of 4.5 dB. Total system S/N EME echo margin was aprox 25 dB. - A continuous 1500 watt, 144 Mhz carrier was transmitted for 45 Seconds. The receive period was 75 Seconds. Any reflection from the comet should have been visible as a line trace during a portion of the display receive window. - Transmit offsets of 0, +1, +2, -1, -2 Khz were tried during the test period to allow for various doppler effects. - After an hour of testing, no traces were seen. It is possible that some pointing error existed during the test since we had cloud cover and I could not do a visual validation. - I used the "Home Planet" program and the latest comet position within the Arcturus star group. It would be nice if one of the astronomy programs would provide AZ EL pointing information for celestial objects. During the test period, the EME array was moved over a +/- 10 degree range in AZ and EL. It looks like thunderstorms for tonight so it is doubtful that I'll be able to make additonal tests for the perigee night. Details on the EME station and FFTDSP program used for the test is available on my web page. de Mike, AF9Y http://www.webcom.com/af9y Work: mwcook@itt.com Home: mwcook@cris.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:57 1996 From: Michael J Wooding Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur Subject: Re: Hyakutake Comet Radio Bounce Test Results Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 00:16:55 +0000 Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <4j487a$mhc@tribune.cris.com> In article <4j487a$mhc@tribune.cris.com>, Mike Cook - AF9Y writes >Based on poor ionization at VHF, it appears that >Hyakutake Comet bounce is doubtful. Never the >less, last night I made a concerted effort. Here >are the results: Very interesting Mike and I applaud your efforts. All I want to do however is see the darn thing! Mike Michael J Wooding vhf-comm@g6iqm.demon.co.uk - CompuServe: 100441,377 WWW: http://www.eolas.co.uk/ag/vhfcomm.htm (hambits.htm & hamclip.htm) WWW: http://www.clearlight.com/~vhfcomm Tel: (0)1788 890365 Fax: (0)1788 891883 KM Publications, 5 Ware Orchard, Barby, Nr.Rugby, CV23 8UF, UK VHF Communications Magazine - Especially Covering VHF, UHF and Microwaves From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:58 1996 From: drted@ix.netcom.com(Ted Viens ) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur Subject: Re: Hyakutake Comet Radio Bounce Test Results Date: 27 Mar 1996 05:14:00 GMT Message-ID: <4jaiqo$1lf@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> References: <4j487a$mhc@tribune.cris.com> All it should take to see the comet is a clear night and knowing where to look. I live within 10 km of downtown Houston. This is one of the worst light polution areas on the earth. After failing to find the comet on Wed. night for not knowing where to look, I found it on Thurs. night directly between arturus and the horizon. About half way around 11 pm local time. Once I knew where to look, I was able to see it even without my glasses (and my vision runs near 20/200.) The disconcerting thing about comets is that they appear to be smudges on the celestial sphere. You develope an uncontrolled urge to try and reach up and polish the skies. This must be why the ancients ascribed malevolence to them... Since Friday, it has been cloudy and the comet viewing bad. In Michael J Wooding writes: > >In article <4j487a$mhc@tribune.cris.com>, Mike Cook - AF9Y > writes >>Based on poor ionization at VHF, it appears that >>Hyakutake Comet bounce is doubtful. Never the >>less, last night I made a concerted effort. Here >>are the results: > >Very interesting Mike and I applaud your efforts. > >All I want to do however is see the darn thing! > >Mike > >Michael J Wooding vhf-comm@g6iqm.demon.co.uk - CompuServe: 100441,377 >WWW: http://www.eolas.co.uk/ag/vhfcomm.htm (hambits.htm & hamclip.htm) >WWW: http://www.clearlight.com/~vhfcomm >Tel: (0)1788 890365 Fax: (0)1788 891883 >KM Publications, 5 Ware Orchard, Barby, Nr.Rugby, CV23 8UF, UK >VHF Communications Magazine - Especially Covering VHF, UHF and Microwaves -- Bye... Ted.. Deep in the Heart of the Armpits of Houston, Texas... From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:37:59 1996 From: trandall@mhv.net Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur Subject: Re: Hyakutake Comet Radio Bounce Test Results Date: Wed, 27 Mar 96 19:27:42 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <4jc4n7$b5f@news.mhv.net> References: <4j487a$mhc@tribune.cris.com> In article , Michael J Wooding wrote: >In article <4j487a$mhc@tribune.cris.com>, Mike Cook - AF9Y > writes >>Based on poor ionization at VHF, it appears that >>Hyakutake Comet bounce is doubtful. Never the >>less, last night I made a concerted effort. Here >>are the results: > >Very interesting Mike and I applaud your efforts. > >All I want to do however is see the darn thing! > >Mike > Look to the north - North-west after sundown. It's a bright fuzzy glow. You really can't miss it! Use binoculars once you find it. It's quite a sight!!!! Tom Tom Randall Amateur Radio - KB2SMS trandall@mhv.net Mt. Beacon Amateur Radio Club / ARRL Member: AAVSO Solar Division Opinions herein are mine and they are not that of MHV.NET! From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:00 1996 From: Wayne Jones Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: I moved...HELP! Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 17:01:21 -1000 Message-ID: <31521801.79CC@hgea.org> References: <31516769.12385752@news.pc.centuryinter.net> Nat Hooper wrote: > > Hello, > > I recently moved to another state and need (I presume) to get a new > callsign. > > Can anyone tell me how to go about it? I 've had an 'advanced' ticket > since 1988. >If you like your call, keep it. All you have to do is send an FCC Form 610 changing your address. They will not change your call sign unless you want to get a new one for the area you moved to. I understand the form 610 is on the FCC web site, but haven't checked for myself. You can also get one from the ARRL -- just send them a SASE and they will get one right out to you. Aloha Wayne, NH6GJ From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:01 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: n1ist@netcom.com (Michael L. Ardai) Subject: Re: I moved...HELP! Message-ID: References: <31516769.12385752@news.pc.centuryinter.net> Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 15:17:12 GMT In article <31516769.12385752@news.pc.centuryinter.net> nhoop@centuryinter.net (Nat Hooper) writes: -Hello, - -I recently moved to another state and need (I presume) to get a new -callsign. Nope, not anymore. Just get a form 610 (contact the ARRL or the FCC, or check on ftp://ftp.fcc.gov and send it in as a change of address. /mike -- \|/ Michael L. Ardai N1IST n1ist@netcom.com \|/ -*- --- Boston Amateur Radio Club: http://www.barc.org/barc --- -*- /|\ or send "info barc-list to listserv@netcom.com /|\ From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:02 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: Icom 735 query Message-ID: <1996Mar23.235233.12399@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: <347_9603210542@woodybbs.com> Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 23:52:33 GMT In article <347_9603210542@woodybbs.com> Thomas.Smith@228.woodybbs.com (Thomas Smith) writes: > >Need a touch of help on this one, as I have a chance to buy this unit... > >A bit of research shows me the Icom 735 is NOT able to do any satellite >work...i.e., it cannot use the CT-16 satellite converter supplied by >Icom... > >As I am interested in working ALL ham modes, can anyone tell me if the >735 can do ANY satellite work of any kind...appreciate this info! Well sure the IC-735 can be used for satellite work. It works fine for mode A and for mode K. With a converter or transverter (it has transverter jacks, unlike many modern rigs) it works fine for mode B. You'd have to stack transverters for modes L and S, so that's probably not too realistic. The tuning steps are a bit coarse for the PSK LEO birds, but it'll do for that too. A FT-736R is a better rig for most satellite work, except mode K, but the IC-735, with appropriate transverters, can serve well as half of a satellite station for most modes. Oh, and it's still a darn fine HF rig too. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:03 1996 From: frello@prairie.lakes.com (Frank Ellesmere) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: ICOM 765 MODS Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 22:48:36 GMT Message-ID: <4jhlvl$mla@News2.Lakes.com> Anyone got any ICOM 765 mods? Frank KG0FC/G8CJ Mankato, MN From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:04 1996 From: mcduffie@unlinfo.unl.edu (Gary McDuffie Sr) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Info needed Kenwood RM-76 (for 7625) Date: 28 Mar 1996 19:52:12 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <4jeqlc$lnc@crcnis3.unl.edu> Keywords: remote control, processor I have a pair of 7625 radios that I am trying to use in a remote base situation. Two of the digits of the frequency are controlled by bcd. However, the Mhz portion is not. I'm needing any information I can get to allow me to control the Mhz and +5 postions. The manuals, both owner's and service, are of no help. They don't contain info on the RM-76. Any information I can get on this subject would be of help. My controller is bcd for all four digits, and I would like to get it interfaced. Thanks in advance. Please notice that my email address is NOT that from which this article is posted. Please use the address below if you send private email. I do read this group daily, so feel free to post to the group if you think others might be interested. Gary McDuffie mcduffie@hannibal.wncc.cc.ne.us From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:05 1996 From: gianotti@ideanet.doe.state.IN.US (John L. Gianotti) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Info-Hams Digest V96 #283 Date: 26 Mar 96 22:12:40 GMT Message-ID: <31586BD8.21FC@ideanet.doe.state.in.us> References: <199603261918.LAA29370@mail.ucsd.edu> The Standard is great for the following: 1) Makes a great wireless mike for a dual-band mobile in cross band repeat. 2) Makes a great little scanner - small and light and nearly invisible with an earplug. 3) Makes a great dual band HT for use at hamfests for local communications 4) Makes a great radio for use if you live within site of a repeater site. It probably should not be your primary HT. The range IS limited by the power out and the antenna. Other than that it is a rugged rig that if used within the above constraints performs very well. -- . . . 73 and type to you later ____. .__ | | ____ | |__ ____ | |/ _ \| | \ / \ /\__| ( <_> ) Y \ | \ \________|\____/|___| /___| / \/ \/ ______________________________________________________________ | John L. Gianotti KF9GW gianotti@ideanet.doe.state.in.us | | Dir Computer Services VOICE: (219) 365-8551 x260 | | Lake Central School Corp. FAX: (219) 365-6414 | |______________________________________________________________| From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:06 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: Info-Hams Digest V96 #283 Message-ID: <1996Mar27.155306.1896@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: <199603261918.LAA29370@mail.ucsd.edu> <31586BD8.21FC@ideanet.doe.state.in.us> Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 15:53:06 GMT In article <31586BD8.21FC@ideanet.doe.state.in.us> gianotti@ideanet.doe.state. IN.US (John L. Gianotti) writes: >The Standard is great for the following: >1) Makes a great wireless mike for a dual-band mobile in cross band >repeat. >2) Makes a great little scanner - small and light and nearly invisible >with an earplug. >3) Makes a great dual band HT for use at hamfests for local >communications >4) Makes a great radio for use if you live within site of a repeater >site. > >It probably should not be your primary HT. The range IS limited by the >power out and the antenna. Other than that it is a rugged rig that if >used within the above constraints performs very well. John sums up my feelings toward my C508A pretty well, except for one point. I think it is fine as your primary HT, since it does all the things you can expect a HT to do. For your primary *radio*, however, I'd recomend not another HT, but something other than a HT, like a nice 50 watt mobile rig. I find that the C508A would work anywhere my FT-470 would work, and places where the C508A fails, so did the FT-470. So I sold my FT-470 and kept the C508A. The difference in power just isn't significant, but a better antenna can be, and Comet makes a nice one for the C508A. As far as I'm concerned, the only failing of this radio is the lack of a TT pad. Considering its size, however, that lack is understandable. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:08 1996 From: rwc@ips.oz.au (Regional Warning Centre) Newsgroups: aus.radio.amateur.misc,ips.solar.activity,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.info Subject: IPS Daily Report - 23 March 96 Date: 23 Mar 1996 23:01:18 -0000 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4j1vru$c6r@flare.syd.ips.oz.au> SUBJ: IPS DAILY SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL REPORT ISSUED AT 23/2330Z MARCH 1996 BY IPS RADIO AND SPACE SERVICES FROM THE REGIONAL WARNING CENTRE (RWC), SYDNEY. SUMMARY FOR 23 MARCH AND FORECAST FOR 24 MARCH - 26 MARCH ----------------------------------------------------------- 1A. SOLAR SUMMARY Activity: Low Flares: none. Observed 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 72/8 GOES satellite data for 22 Mar Daily Proton Fluence >1 MeV: 3.3E+05 Daily Proton Fluence >10 MeV: 1.7E+04 Daily Electron Fluence >2 MeV: 3.8E+08 (moderate) X-ray background: A1.0 Fluence (flux accumulation over 24hrs)/ cm2-ster-day. 1B. SOLAR FORECAST 24 Mar 25 Mar 26 Mar Activity Very low Very low Very low Fadeouts None expected None expected None expected Forecast 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number for 24 Mar: 71/6 ----------------------------------------------------------- 2A. MAGNETIC SUMMARY Geomagnetic field at Learmonth: Quiet to unsettled Estimated Indices : A K Observed A Index 22 Mar Learmonth 8 3221 1232 Fredericksburg 8 15 Planetary 10 14 Observed Kp for 22 Mar: 2334 3333 2B. MAGNETIC FORECAST Date Ap Conditions 24 Mar 10 Quiet to unsettled 25 Mar 8 Quiet to unsettled 26 Mar 8 Quiet to unsettled ----------------------------------------------------------- 3A. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION SUMMARY Latitude Band Date Low Middle High 23 Mar Normal-fair Normal-fair Fair PCA Event : None 3B. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION FORECAST Latitude Band Date Low Middle High 24 Mar Normal Normal Normal 25 Mar Normal Normal Normal 26 Mar Normal Normal Normal ----------------------------------------------------------- 4A. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC SUMMARY Date T index 23 Mar -3 Observed Australian Regional MUFs: Darwin: 15-30% depressed. Townsville: 15-30% depressed until 12UT, then near predicted monthly values. Sydney: near predicted monthly values. Hobart: near predicted monthly values. Predicted Monthly T index for March: 10 4B. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC FORECAST Date T index MUFs 24 Mar 0 near predicted monthly values 25 Mar 0 near predicted monthly values 26 Mar 0 near predicted monthly values -- IPS Radio and Space Services | email: rwc@ips.gov.au PO Box 5606 | WWW: http://www.ips.gov.au/rwc/ West Chatswood NSW 2057 AUSTRALIA | FTP: ftp://ftp.ips.gov.au/users/rwc/ tel: +61 2 4148300 | fax: +61 2 4148331 From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:09 1996 From: rwc@ips.oz.au (Regional Warning Centre) Newsgroups: aus.radio.amateur.misc,ips.solar.activity,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.info Subject: IPS Daily Report - 27 March 96 Date: 27 Mar 1996 23:18:41 -0000 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4jcich$aaf@flare.syd.ips.oz.au> SUBJ: IPS DAILY SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL REPORT ISSUED AT 27/2330Z MARCH 1996 BY IPS RADIO AND SPACE SERVICES FROM THE REGIONAL WARNING CENTRE (RWC), SYDNEY. SUMMARY FOR 27 MARCH AND FORECAST FOR 28 MARCH - 30 MARCH ----------------------------------------------------------- 1A. SOLAR SUMMARY Activity: Very low Flares: none. Observed 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 72/8 GOES satellite data for 26 Mar Daily Proton Fluence >1 MeV: 3.5E+05 Daily Proton Fluence >10 MeV: 1.7E+04 Daily Electron Fluence >2 MeV: 3.1E+08 (moderate) X-ray background: A1.0 Fluence (flux accumulation over 24hrs)/ cm2-ster-day. 1B. SOLAR FORECAST 28 Mar 29 Mar 30 Mar Activity Very low Very low Very low Fadeouts None expected None expected None expected Forecast 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number for 28 Mar: 72/8 ----------------------------------------------------------- 2A. MAGNETIC SUMMARY Geomagnetic field at Learmonth: Unsettled to quiet, with one active period between 0600-0900UT. Estimated Indices : A K Observed A Index 26 Mar Learmonth 12 3433 3211 Fredericksburg 8 8 Planetary 8 9 Observed Kp for 26 Mar: 3431 2222 2B. MAGNETIC FORECAST Date Ap Conditions 28 Mar 5 Quiet 29 Mar 5 Quiet 30 Mar 5 Quiet COMMENT: ----------------------------------------------------------- 3A. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION SUMMARY Latitude Band Date Low Middle High 27 Mar Normal Normal Normal PCA Event : None 3B. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION FORECAST Latitude Band Date Low Middle High 28 Mar Normal Normal Normal 29 Mar Normal Normal Normal 30 Mar Normal Normal Normal ----------------------------------------------------------- 4A. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC SUMMARY Date T index 27 Mar -5 Observed Australian Regional MUFs: Darwin: 10 to 30% depressed between 0300 and 1700 UT. Townsville: 10 to 30% depressed between 0300 and 01700 UT. Sydney: Near predicted monthly values for UT day. Hobart: 10 to 30% depressed between 0600 and 1600 UT. Spread -F has been observed between 1000 and 2000 UT. Predicted Monthly T index for March: 10 4B. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC FORECAST Date T index MUFs 28 Mar 2 near predicted monthly values 29 Mar 5 near predicted monthly values 30 Mar 5 near predicted monthly values COMMENT: -- IPS Radio and Space Services | email: rwc@ips.gov.au PO Box 5606 | WWW: http://www.ips.gov.au/rwc/ West Chatswood NSW 2057 AUSTRALIA | FTP: ftp://ftp.ips.gov.au/users/rwc/ tel: +61 2 4148300 | fax: +61 2 4148331 From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:12 1996 From: rwc@ips.oz.au (Regional Warning Centre) Newsgroups: aus.radio.amateur.misc,ips.solar.activity,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.info Subject: IPS Daily Report - 28 March 96 Date: 28 Mar 1996 23:16:55 -0000 Distribution: world Message-ID: <4jf6l7$rlm@flare.syd.ips.oz.au> SUBJ: IPS DAILY SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL REPORT ISSUED AT 28/2330Z MARCH 1996 BY IPS RADIO AND SPACE SERVICES FROM THE REGIONAL WARNING CENTRE (RWC), SYDNEY. SUMMARY FOR 28 MARCH AND FORECAST FOR 29 MARCH - 31 MARCH ----------------------------------------------------------- 1A. SOLAR SUMMARY Activity: Very low Flares: none. Observed 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 72/8 GOES satellite data for 27 Mar Daily Proton Fluence >1 MeV: 4.2E+05 Daily Proton Fluence >10 MeV: 1.8E+04 Daily Electron Fluence >2 MeV: 4.5E+08 (moderate) X-ray background: A1.0 Fluence (flux accumulation over 24hrs)/ cm2-ster-day. 1B. SOLAR FORECAST 29 Mar 30 Mar 31 Mar Activity Very low Very low Very low Fadeouts None expected None expected None expected Forecast 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number for 29 Mar: 71/6 ----------------------------------------------------------- 2A. MAGNETIC SUMMARY Geomagnetic field at Learmonth: Quiet to unsettled Estimated Indices : A K Observed A Index 27 Mar Learmonth 10 3322 3222 Fredericksburg 9 9 Planetary 5 9 Observed Kp for 27 Mar: 3323 2222 2B. MAGNETIC FORECAST Date Ap Conditions 29 Mar 5 Quiet to unsettled 30 Mar 5 Quiet to unsettled 31 Mar 5 Quiet to unsettled ----------------------------------------------------------- 3A. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION SUMMARY Latitude Band Date Low Middle High 28 Mar Normal Normal Normal PCA Event : None 3B. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION FORECAST Latitude Band Date Low Middle High 29 Mar Normal Normal Normal 30 Mar Normal Normal Normal 31 Mar Normal Normal Normal ----------------------------------------------------------- 4A. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC SUMMARY Date T index 28 Mar 1 Observed Australian Regional MUFs: Darwin: 10 to 30% depressed between 0300 and 1900 UT. Townsville: 15% depressed between 0100 and 1800 UT. Sydney: 10 to 30% enhanced between 1700 and 1900 UT and upto 15% depressed between 0800 and 1100 UT. Hobart: 10 to 30% depressed between 0300 and 1600 UT. Spread -F has been observed between 1100 and 2000 UT. Predicted Monthly T index for March: 10 4B. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC FORECAST Date T index MUFs 29 Mar 5 near predicted monthly values 30 Mar 5 near predicted monthly values 31 Mar 10 near predicted monthly values -- IPS Radio and Space Services | email: rwc@ips.gov.au PO Box 5606 | WWW: http://www.ips.gov.au/rwc/ West Chatswood NSW 2057 AUSTRALIA | FTP: ftp://ftp.ips.gov.au/users/rwc/ tel: +61 2 4148300 | fax: +61 2 4148331 From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:13 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: Monty Wilson Subject: Re: Is my tech plus study guide still effective? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 17:30:44 GMT References: <4jfkc5$7p6@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> CrACKeD wrote: >I have a study guide from Radio Shack for the Technician Plus License >which is dated effective July 1, 1990. Can I still use this book to >study for the current Technicain Plus exam? I don't know if the question >pools have been changed, so I'd like to avoid buying a new book if I >can. Thanks. In another thread you said that you already have your Technician license (no code) and you are upgrading to Tech-plus. It is my understanding that all you have to do is go in and take the 5 WPM code test; you shouldn't have to study any books for a written exam. Clarifications or corrections, anyone? -- .........Monty. mwilson@bangate.compaq.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:14 1996 From: Eric Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,alt.radio.pirate,aus.radio,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,uk.radio.amateur Subject: KENWOOD TH415E Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 18:57:43 -0100 Message-ID: <31599DB7.7C8F@pacwan.mm-soft.fr> References: <314C74DA.2BB3@shadow.net> <4ijvsq$5ud@postman.jet.uk> <4iu54f$ald@alterdial.UU.NET> <4j2rrd$hee@ccnet2.ccnet.com> I'm looking for the instructions manual of the KENWOOD TH415E UHF FM Transceiver. Could anyone help me ? Thanks, Eric. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:14 1996 From: Glenrr@cris.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Kenwood TS 830 S Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 17:14:35 GMT Message-ID: <3158255b.8218537@news.cris.com> Looking for info on converting TS 830 S to 11 meter operation. Any info appreciated. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:16 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: Monty Wilson Subject: Re: Kenwood TS 830 S Message-ID: Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 20:14:22 GMT References: <3158255b.8218537@news.cris.com> You want to put an '830S on CB channels? You may have picked a difficult rig for that. First of all, you have a tube driver and finals, so you'll have to convert your 12m tank circuits, or one set of your 10m tank circuits, to 11m. Now although you may want to operate mostly SSB, you still want to be able to get on AM sometimes, right? Well your '830S doesn't do AM with- out some serious modifications. If you're fortunate enough to get an "export" model TS-830M, then you have AM so that's not a problem. Starting with a Yaesu FT-747 is much easier. Channels already in place, all-mode operation, no tuned tank circuits, and a simple mod for general coverage transmit. Of course here in the US you can only listen, which requires no mods. -- .........Monty. mwilson@bangate.compaq.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:16 1996 From: jackl@pinetree.microserve.com (WB3U) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Kenwood TS 830 S Date: Wed, 27 Mar 96 23:09:22 GMT Message-ID: <4jci73$n0m@crash.microserve.net> References: <3158255b.8218537@news.cris.com> Monty Wilson wrote: >You want to put an '830S on CB channels? You may have picked a >difficult rig for that. There's one resistor you can cut to make the 830S work perfectly on 11M. I don't remember which one though, so he should probably cut them all and see which one works. ;) 73, Jack WB3U From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:17 1996 From: joe@sd.inri.com (Joe Carvalho) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Kenwood TS-50 .vs. Icom-706 Date: 25 Mar 1996 18:14:49 GMT Message-ID: <4j6nqp$n4o@gozer.inri.com> I am looking for a portable HF radio. I've got a chance to purchase a used Kenwood TS-50(HF) with the optional CW filter. I have also been looking at the Icom-706. I am new to amateur radio and would like your opinion with regard to portable HF transceivers. Kenwood TS-750 (used) $700.US Icom IC-706 (new) ~$1200.US Comments Pros/Cons are welcome. -- --joe My opinions are mine...All mine. Tasteless Quote of the Century: "I need this parade like I need a hole in my head" JFK joe@sd.inri.com Inter-National Research Institute 10101 Old Grove Rd. Sandy Ehgo, CA. 92131 For long you live and high you fly and smiles you give and tears you cry And all you touch and all you see is all your life will ever be...PF.DSotM From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:18 1996 From: jdhoward@helps.helps.com (James D. Howard) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Kid's Summer Camp & Ham Radio Date: 28 Mar 1996 11:40:21 GMT Message-ID: <4jdtr5$t7o@villa.fc.net> Summary: Ham radio summer camp for kids? Keywords: kid's summer camp I'm looking for a Summer Camp in the USA for a 12 year old girl. She wants the camp to have the usual camp activities and ham radio. Included should be a license preparation class. At the end of camp she wants to have passed the Tech-Plus tests. Do you know of a summer camp with ham radio activities? --- James Howard Austin, TX USA jdhoward@helps.com -- --- James Howard Austin, TX USA jdhoward@helps.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:19 1996 From: hmrosser@csranet.com (Hal Rosser) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Learning Morse Code Date: 24 Mar 1996 17:41:58 GMT Message-ID: <4j41h6$h1t@csra2.csranet.com> References: <4iu8p3$5lc@news-f.iadfw.net> <3153CC6A.73C7@netusa1.net> In article <3153CC6A.73C7@netusa1.net>, Steve Lewis says: > >lloyd17@airmail.net wrote: >> >> I am thinking about getting a Ham Liciense. I already have a receiver >> and DX all the time. Can anyone reccommend a good program for teaching >> Morse Code? Is there a FAQ list for getting a liciense? If so can >> someone send me a copy? >> >> Thanks! I enjoy this group very much. >> >> Regards >> >> Lloyd > >I used Super Morse, it is a shareware program and you can get it at > http://www.shareware.com/ just search for Super Morse. >Hope this helps. > >-- >Steve Lewis (n9jhg@netusa1.net) > >Just my opinion! :-) 73 cul ..N9jhg has a good point. But I suggest searching the dos AND windows directories...use "morse" as the search name. And use more than just one progr am. Also, some of the programs you find will have sample QSO's that the morse programs can send. Tape them by putting your recorder mike up to the computer speaker (or being a ham) electronically couple the audio signal into the aux input of your recorder) ..Tapes help a lot, I'm up to 10 wpm..going for 20. And that nonsense about only 30 minutes a days...nah. The more the better, just take breeaks when you need it. hope this helps. Hal rosser (formerly WB4OSP..expired..working my way back in) From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:20 1996 From: ken.meinken@basselope.org (Ken Meinken) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Learning Morse Code Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 17:35:00 GMT Message-ID: <960325180020637@basselope.org> Distribution: world L >From: lloyd17@airmail.net () L >Subject: Learning Morse Code L > L >I am thinking about getting a Ham Liciense. I already have a receiver L >and DX all the time. Can anyone reccommend a good program for teaching L >Morse Code? Is there a FAQ list for getting a liciense? If so can L >someone send me a copy? L > L >Thanks! I enjoy this group very much. L > L >Regards L > L >Lloyd L > L > Lloyd, I think different approaches work well with different people. What I found worked for me was to use a code practice oscillator and send a character and then say the letter in my mind. Keep up with the same letter 50 or 100 times, then move on to another letter. Later come back and do the first letter again. IMO, you want to develop a Pavlovian response so that when you hear "dit da da" you think and write "W". When you hear "dah dit dit dit" you write "B", etc. Once you develop that and know the alphabet and numbers well, then you might start listening to some code tapes or listen to on the air code practice. 73, Ken WA8JXM --- WinQwk 2.0 a#0 From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:21 1996 From: dara@physics.att.com (Shel Darack) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Low output with PK-232 and TS-440 Date: 25 Mar 1996 17:23:33 GMT Message-ID: <4j6kql$2i0@nntpa.cb.att.com> References: <4ivov6$gf6@inxs.ncren.net> There are two things going on here. 1. Low output power when driving acc 2 (13 pin connector) 2. Using a mic while connected to acc 2 wilth a data line The reason for low output power is the acc 2 jack connects after the mic preamp. The solution is usually to advance the mic gain control from its normal 9pm position until you get full output. Turn it pack down for mic operation. You also should wire the 13 pin connector the way KAM recomends. I would have to look in my manuals at home, but it has been written up in QST. Essentially, you connect the data audio to a diffent pin and connect to the normal pin through a diode. If you need the pin info, send me mail at; shel@fuwutai.att.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:22 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: rdonnell@mail.eskimo.com (Robert Donnell - KD7NM) Subject: Re: Low output with PK-232 and TS-440 Message-ID: References: <4ivov6$gf6@inxs.ncren.net> <4j6kql$2i0@nntpa.cb.att.com> Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 14:19:55 GMT dara@physics.att.com (Shel Darack) wrote: >There are two things going on here. >1. Low output power when driving acc 2 (13 pin connector) >2. Using a mic while connected to acc 2 wilth a data line >The reason for low output power is the acc 2 jack connects after >the mic preamp. The solution is usually to advance the mic >gain control from its normal 9pm position until you get full output. >Turn it pack down for mic operation. >You also should wire the 13 pin connector the way KAM recomends. >I would have to look in my manuals at home, but it has been written >up in QST. Essentially, you connect the data audio to a diffent >pin and connect to the normal pin through a diode. If you need >the pin info, send me mail at; > shel@fuwutai.att.com Actually, you leave the audio wire connected to the same spot. What you want to move is the PTT wire. When it's connected directly to the 'mute' pin on ACC2, then the mute pin is connected to the PTT pin via a diode, normal operation of the PTT (via the microphone) does not mute the microphone, but PTT asserted by the PK-232 does mute the microphone. If my thinking is right (at 6:30 AM) you want the cathode going to the mute pin and the anode going to the PTT pin. 73, Bob From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:24 1996 From: "Roy D." Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.scanner Subject: Re: Mixer? Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 00:08:28 -0800 Message-ID: <315A48FC.C8@psu.edu> References: <4jcibk$9o3$2@mhadg.production.compuserve.com> Dan Jerome wrote: > > Has anyone ever seen a small mixer to send the audio signals from > several different radios to one speaker. I have a 2 meter, a CB, > a scanner, and a hands free cell phone in my vehicle, and I only > want one external speaker. > There's a nice three input mixer shown in the ARRL handbook. It's designed around a LM386 op-amp. The circuit is basically a summing amplifier. I built one and it works quite well. The output level won't knock your socks off as is, but by adding another op-amp as an audio amplifier will give you plenty of volume. The whole thing takes only a few hours to build and all the parts are avail. at Rat Shack. 73....................Roy -- Roy Derryberry, KD3LZ Member: Aircraft Owners and Pilots' Association (red127@psu.edu) American Radio Relay League Utility Workers Union of America If I'd known I was gonna live this long, I'd taken better care of myself. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:24 1996 From: Ron Wilson Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Mods needed for Ranger 8000i Date: 24 Mar 1996 19:10:22 GMT Message-ID: <4j46n3$8b@robin.theramp.net> Looking for out of band mods for Ranger 8000i marine handheld. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:25 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: MOTIVATING HAMS TO UPGRADE Message-ID: <1996Mar21.172756.29098@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: <9603191807.AA29342@pti.prysm.net> Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 17:27:56 GMT In article <9603191807.AA29342@pti.prysm.net> fmorris@prysm.NET (Frank C. Morr is, N5YZM) writes: >We are trying to find ways to motivate hams to upgrade. We have already >lost one local club to the No-Tech Techs. Lost a club? Maybe you need to do some DFing so you can find it again. I'm sure a Tech will be happy to teach you how to do it. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:26 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: jlowman@netcom.com (Jim Lowman) Subject: Re: MOTIVATING HAMS TO UPGRADE Message-ID: References: <9603191807.AA29342@pti.prysm.net> <4iqhdf$n5g@cc.iu.net> Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 20:42:02 GMT Bill Newkirk (wnewkirk@iu.net) wrote: : that's code free technicians, 'dere, frank. there's a lot of no-tech extras too. : and what do you think about waivers? It is irrelevant what any of us "think" about waivers. The VE has no choice or latitude in this area; he must accept the waiver. We had a gentleman come in at our last VE session with a waiver for the 20-wpm code test. He had already passed all written and code requirements, but could not get beyond 17 wpm. He saw an audiologist, who determined that his hearing loss was such that he would need a hearing aid in about two years. I could tell that this gentleman was not trying to pull anything. Sure, the problem with the waivers is that, like everything else, there will always be those who try to abuse the system. BTW, be sure to charge the appropriate testing fee to such an applicant, even if he takes no tests - it is an administrative fee. Not knowing this cost me $6.05, since I did not collect before he left. : >Can anyone share with us what they have done to motivate hams to upgrade? : 1) offer a regular testing session. : 2) hold some events that would encourage operation of the needed skills : and technical knowledge. We are fortunate enough to have a permanent location for our club. Every Wednesday evening we have classes in code and theory, up to 13 wpm and Advanced Class, as necessary. Our largest product, not surprisingly, is the no-code Tech, but we have also had one 15-year-old high school student make the trip all the way to Extra in less than a year. Yes, some folks do upgrade. We also have two operating HF positions at the clubhouse, and a group of enthusiastic OTs to encourage the newcomers, and to answer their questions. Finally, we have VE testing at the clubhouse, once a month. Everything at one convenient location so that folks are comfortable. If you consider only the licensed hams who are members of our local club, about 56 percent are Techs, and 44 percent are holders of General Class or hig her licenses. Yet all some members seem to be fixated on is packet.46 73 de Jim - KF6CR From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:28 1996 From: dl278@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (William J. Graham) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Need email add for Rev George at GQRP Date: 29 Mar 1996 13:28:29 GMT Message-ID: <4jgoht$hnc@madeline.INS.CWRU.Edu> Reply-To: dl278@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (William J. Graham) can someone provide the email add fro Rev George Dobbs of GQRP? Thanks Bill N5LMX/DA1WG -- Never Thirst ! "My head hurts, my feet stink and I don't love Jesus!"- J. Buffett From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:30 1996 From: nor@synapse.net (Ron Woodall) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Need help with 8 inch floppys Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 12:40:16 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <4j0r9s$fch@piano.synapse.net> References: <4ip10p$34s@ns2.ptd.net> <4iuhdp$16d@news1.inlink.com> Gary: raiar@inlink.com (Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr.) wrote: >tbtarga@postoffice.ptd.net (tom borthwick) wrote: >>I was told that ham radio people might be familiar with 8 inch floppys. >>I need to know if anyone can convert 8 inch to 3.5 or 5.5. I'm an idiot >>with that stuff and I'm trying to update an old peice of automation >>equipment. Any help would be apreciated. >>Please email your thoughts, >>Tom Borthwick I'm new to the HAM world but certainly in the "old" computer world there used to be equipment by a firm called "Schafstall" (sp?). This was typically owned by a service provider (and many should still have them (especially in the back room) that would take the hard sectored 8" and transfer the data (transparently) to a smaller format. Your problem does not come with the diskettes, it comes with the programs that wrote the diskettes in the first place. Typically they were pretty simple machines and the programs, in turn were pretty simple. The code would be meaningless in the newer systems. I've never known a PC to use 8" hard sectored diskettes so backward compatibility is out. Many old minis had such a provision. There were few soft sectored 8" simply because they didn't store as much as a hard sectored diskette. IBM used them from time to time. There were other diskette "convertors" available on the market in the same time period. Check around in old yellow pages (1977-84?) for organizations that advertised "media conversion". They will have the equipment. Warning, it will be old and dirty and may require a major clean-up before use. You may also be given the equipment since there is no longer a market for it. Most companies should still have it. It cost $29,000+ when new with minimal capability and were primarly used to convert word processor diskettes from one format to another. Hope this helps Ron >Hi Tom >Your question is not real clear! >If your question is, can I replace the 8" drive on my, eg. posting >machine, with a 3.5 for 5.25 the answer is no, not without changing >the floppy drive controlling programs. >If you are asking, can the information from the 8" drive be saved on a >3.5 or 5.25 disk, the answer would more than likely be yes, if you >have access to a computer that is both old enough to allow the 8" >driver program and new enough to allow 5.25 driver programs to be run. >I was in a similar situation, fortunately, I could load all the data >from the old 8" disks onto the new large harddrive and then switch out >the 8" drive for a more modern one. >TTUL >Gary From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:33 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: Need help with 8 inch floppys Message-ID: <1996Mar23.143319.9093@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: <4ip10p$34s@ns2.ptd.net> <4iuhdp$16d@news1.inlink.com> Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 14:33:19 GMT In article <4iuhdp$16d@news1.inlink.com> raiar@inlink.com (Gary V. Deutschmann , Sr.) writes: >tbtarga@postoffice.ptd.net (tom borthwick) wrote: > >>I was told that ham radio people might be familiar with 8 inch floppys. >>I need to know if anyone can convert 8 inch to 3.5 or 5.5. I'm an idiot >>with that stuff and I'm trying to update an old peice of automation >>equipment. Any help would be apreciated. >>Please email your thoughts, >>Tom Borthwick > >Hi Tom >Your question is not real clear! >If your question is, can I replace the 8" drive on my, eg. posting >machine, with a 3.5 for 5.25 the answer is no, not without changing >the floppy drive controlling programs. Actually, you can. When the then new 3.5 inch drives first came out, I wired up a cable for one to an 8 inch controller. It worked fine. The reason it worked fine is that both drives use the same sort of signals, just on different pins, and because the newer drives have 80 tracks while the older drives only had 77. So the old controller only uses the first 77 tracks on the new drive. Not a problem. It views the little drive as just another 8 inch floppy. Of course the format and data written on the disks is in a format incompatible with other newer computers using 3.5 inch drives, but that isn't often important for this type of upgrade. >If you are asking, can the information from the 8" drive be saved on a >3.5 or 5.25 disk, the answer would more than likely be yes, if you >have access to a computer that is both old enough to allow the 8" >driver program and new enough to allow 5.25 driver programs to be run. > >I was in a similar situation, fortunately, I could load all the data >from the old 8" disks onto the new large harddrive and then switch out >the 8" drive for a more modern one. Yeah, now moving data to a different format is a separate issue, and does require a controller that recognizes the difference in 3.5 inch and 8 inch formats. But you can copy files to a 3.5 inch drive from a 8 inch drive if the controller thinks the 3.5 inch drive is just another 8 inch drive. That keeps everything in the same format, and works just ducky. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:34 1996 From: gfiber@halcyon.com (Gary Fiber) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Need Spectrum Chart! Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 13:39:47 GMT Message-ID: <4j6812$ats@news.halcyon.com> References: kaboom@usit.net (Michael) wrote: >I'm looking for a chart or a list of the HF through UHF spectrum, showing >band plans and allocations. Anybody got one? Anybody know if there's an >FCC site on the net that might have something like that? Please reply via >email. Thank! >de Michael, KB1UM The U.S. government used to offer such a chart and it was available from the Government Printing Office. Gary From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:35 1996 From: Mike Mayer Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Need Spectrum Chart! Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 12:43:57 -0500 Message-ID: <31582CDD.51D0@boulder.vni.com> References: <4j6812$ats@news.halcyon.com> Gary Fiber wrote: > > kaboom@usit.net (Michael) wrote: > > >I'm looking for a chart or a list of the HF through UHF spectrum, showing > >band plans and allocations. Anybody got one? Anybody know if there's an > >FCC site on the net that might have something like that? Please reply via > >email. Thank! > > >de Michael, KB1UM > The U.S. government used to offer such a chart and it was available > from the Government Printing Office. > > Gary Yes, as Gary says there is such a beast. They are large (3' x 4') and can be had for $3.50 apiece from the US Govt. Printing office. You might check locally. I am in Cleveland and the USGPO has a bookstore right here that usually stocks the posters (although they have some on order right now). I might also mention that Motorola has a similar poster, it's about 4' by 2', also quite detailed. I have one, but not near me right now or I'd pull the 1-800 number from it. They sent it to me free. You might have to do some legwork to find the number, but you might start with Motorola in Schaumberg, IL, just outside of Chicago. I'm sure directory assistance (708-555-1212) can give you a main number for the company, which in turn should be able to help you find the actual department (you might try asking for customer relations, or their PR/Marketing department). Mike Mike -- ^v^v^v^v^v^v PV-WAVE: Where it's @! http://www.vni.com ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^ Michael Mayer, Senior Technical Support Engineer Amateur Radio KB8RJO Visual Numerics, Inc. 32915 Aurora Rd. Suite 160, Solon OH 44139 USA Email: mayer@boulder.vni.com Human: 216-248-4900 Fax: 216-248-2733 v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v Good * Cheap * Quick (pick any two) ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:36 1996 From: Simon Twigger Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: New Extra exam pool practice available on-line Date: 27 Mar 1996 18:04:49 GMT Message-ID: <4jc001$r5s@post.its.mcw.edu> The new Extra examination pool which comes into effect as of the end of June 1996 is now available for practice on-line. Along with all the other examinations, it can be found at: http://www.biochem.mcw.edu/Postdocs/Simon/radio/exam.html I do not have the figures for the new extra exam at this time, though they should be available within a few weeks. If there are any bugs in this new question pool please let me know! 73, Simon AA9PW From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:37 1996 From: jackl@pinetree.microserve.com (WB3U) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: No CQ's On 75 Meters ?? Date: Thu, 28 Mar 96 20:46:43 GMT Message-ID: <4jeu7r$3j2@crash.microserve.net> Two different people recently told me on the air that it's unusual to call CQ on 75 meters. They also said that a number of hams on the band consider a CQ to be bad operating practice, although they didn't know why. Can someone explain this to me? 73, Jack WB3U From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:38 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: No CQ's On 75 Meters ?? Message-ID: From: frederick.mckenzie-1@kmail.ksc.nasa.gov (Fred McKenzie) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 14:12:06 -0500 References: <4jeu7r$3j2@crash.microserve.net> In article <4jeu7r$3j2@crash.microserve.net>, jackl@pinetree.microserve.com (WB3U) wrote: > Two different people recently told me on the air that it's unusual to > call CQ on 75 meters. They also said that a number of hams on the > band consider a CQ to be bad operating practice, although they didn't > know why. Jack- Suppose you can hear relatively weak stations in conversation on a frequency, but you call CQ anyway. That is bad operating practice. Now, suppose a group of Hams "hang out" on a particular frequency. They may be doing other things in the shack, but all listening for someone to say something. It may have been 30 minutes since anyone said anything, but as soon as you call CQ on their frequency, they will all jump in and pretend you are causing severe interference! For such a crowded band, these Hams are real Hogs. They are the ones guilty of bad operating practice, not the innocent person calling CQ. There are obviously two sides to this. On one side, you may not hear a weaker station talking to someone near you. Why not just ask if the frequency is occupied, before you call CQ? On the other side, why not invite the person calling CQ, to join the group? Is this asking too much? 73, Fred, K4DII From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:39 1996 From: hanavin@stimpy.eecis.udel.edu (Chuck Hanavin) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: No CQ's On 75 Meters ?? Date: 29 Mar 1996 16:43:36 GMT Message-ID: <4jh3vo$hvj@louie.udel.edu> References: <4jeu7r$3j2@crash.microserve.net> In article <4jeu7r$3j2@crash.microserve.net>, WB3U wrote: >Two different people recently told me on the air that it's unusual to >call CQ on 75 meters. They also said that a number of hams on the >band consider a CQ to be bad operating practice, although they didn't >know why. > >Can someone explain this to me? > >73, >Jack WB3U It's not bad practice to call cq on any frequency, including 2m repeaters, in my book. Chuck (WB3FJJ) From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:40 1996 From: pacrimgolf@saba.kuentos.guam.net (Jim Kehler) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: No-Code Crybabys Date: 24 Mar 1996 14:28:55 GMT Message-ID: <4j3m77$h49@lehi.kuentos.guam.net> References: <199603221818.NAA18227@grtk> <1996Mar23.145043.9284@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Gary Coffman (gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us) wrote: < stuff deleted......> : Again, get back to us when you've passed 1B. Many of us have, though it : took much longer than a month, but not all of us feel proud of ourselves : for wasting so much effort on a mindless activity of dubious utility. : You *do* appear to be an ideal candidate to pass the Morse exams quickly : and easily. You demonstrate the mindlessness so essential to being an easy : subject for the conditioning (brainwashing) required. It's always easier : to scribble on a blank slate. : Gary : -- : Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems : Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp addre sses : 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org : Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | Gary, you sound to me like the ham's ham. A legend in your own mind. Would you please mind telling us what you include in your 'ham' activities besides sitting behind the keyboard and criticizing just about anything anybody else has to say ? Is that your idea of the new 'digital' ham ? Or did you just run out of things to break so now you think it's your job to bust everyone's chops ? Just because you thought learning CW was a waste of your precious time doesn't necessarily mean everyone feels that way. Judging from the amount of digital garbage you spew into the amateur radio news groups, seems to me you have plenty of time to waste anyway........ Somebody tries to write something constructive that may help somebody else, and you have to come along and try and screw it up. Many of us did learn CW in month..... but that makes us not as brilliant as you, because you took longer ? What kind of logic is that ? Amateur radio is a many faceted hobby, at least for most of us, so you stick to your mindless typing and we'll go work CW on HF, or packet on the satellites, or FM on 2 meters and hopefully we won't bump into you. Just becuase one part of the hobby is something you don't (or can't) participate in, don't fool yourself into thinking the rest of the world can't either. 73, Jim KH2D From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:41 1996 From: myers@West.Sun.COM (Dana Myers) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: No-Code Crybabys Date: 25 Mar 1996 07:12:15 GMT Message-ID: <4j5h0f$k11@abyss.West.Sun.COM> References: <199603221818.NAA18227@grtk> In article <199603221818.NAA18227@grtk>, KD4GIK wrote: ... >The time you crybabies have spent rationalizing, wringing your hands in >frustration, and working the internet crybaby net to death, you could have >passed the 20 wpm requirement. GET OVER IT. Study. Apply yourself. Once >you have successfully completed this goal, you'll be proud of youself. >You'll feel good. You'll be telling others how EASY it was. Nice bit of encouragement; I sure just about anyone that didn't want to learn Morse code before reading this note will have a complete change of heart. Now, on a serious note, what about folks like me that already have an Extra class license but still think the Morse code requirement is ready for retirement? How do you smack us into shape? Please respect the Followup-To: line. -- * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are mine and should * * (310) 348-6043 | not be interpreted or represented as * * Dana.Myers@West.Sun.Com | those of Sun Microsystems, Inc. * From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:42 1996 From: jackl@pinetree.microserve.com (WB3U) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: No-Code Crybabys Date: Wed, 27 Mar 96 20:29:21 GMT Message-ID: <4jc8qt$lm3@crash.microserve.net> References: <199603221818.NAA18227@grtk> <1996Mar23.145043.9284@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4j3m77$h49@lehi.kuentos.guam.net> <1996Mar24.224615.17669@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4j5r02$sq4@lehi.kuentos.guam.net> <4jahoe$3uic@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> srwhite@ibm.net wrote: >My point here is "practical knowledge"... CW *is* practical knowledge. I can't count the number of times I've attempted to migrate a technical discussion from CW to the phone bands, only to discover that the Q5 CW QSO couldn't be continued on phone. The opposite is also true - when band conditions are unfavorable for SSB, I can almost always carry on with CW, and with a significant margin to spare in terms of readability. >It'll help the hobby more than any license class or any CW >requirement, and remember, it started out as a hobby, still is, and >will always be! Which is exactly why CW should continue to exist as both a common mode of operation and a licensing requirement. Some of the newer digital modes may be more effective than CW in terms of pure communications effectiveness, but that comes at the expense of additional equipment, complexity and expense. CW has no peer when both reliability and simplicity are considered. The fact that CW also requires operators to show a degree of genuine motivation before joining the ranks is a side benefit. For Amateur use, all the factors must be weighed, not just one. 73, Jack WB3U From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:44 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: Monty Wilson Subject: Re: No-Code Crybabys Message-ID: Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 21:01:58 GMT References: <199603221818.NAA18227@grtk> <1996Mar23.145043.9284@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4j3m77$h49@lehi.kuentos.guam.net> <1996Mar24.224615.17669@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4j5r02$sq4@lehi.kuentos.guam.net> <4jahoe$3uic@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> srwhite@ibm.net wrote: > >...I have noticed some Extra's and Advanced >license holders who look down towards no-code ticket holders as lower class >operators who are too lazy or not smart enough to learn code... This is unfortunate. Morse abilities are only required for HF operations, with faster Morse and more difficult written tests required for additional HF operating priveleges and the priveleges of operating equipment in space and administering amateur exams. If you are not interested in operating HF, not interested in being a satellite trustee, and not interested in becoming a VE, why on earth would you want anything beyond the codeless Tech, even if you cou ld? If you want to convert CB radios to 10m and use them to chat with folks in Sou th America when the bands open, by all means take your 5 wpm Morse test and get y our tech-plus. If you'd like to tune up on any of eight HF bands and work the onl y RTTY station on the Falklands on 20m, go for the General. If you'd like to pa ss NTS traffic on the Texas CW net, and become a VE, go for the Extra. But if al l your interests lie above 30 MHz, I would question your need for the code. In all fairness, you did say "SOME extras...." > Not smart >enough? Hmmm... When was the last time I heard someone ask what the >morse equivilent was for a particular letter? Then again, I cannot even begi n >to tell the number of times these same few people have asked me how to >configure their computer to do this, or for me to write a program to do that, >all related to ham radio of course... The field of radio is big enough that you can be a radio expert and still need help with computers. Are you falling into the same fault which you attach to them, by assuming they should be at a certain computer proficiency just because they hold radio licenses? Someone who is an RF whiz and can buil d his own transmitters, receivers, and antennas from scratch would not necessari ly have any need for computers. And when he finally takes the plunge, I would ho pe folks with your computer abilities would be around to cushion the shock, just as he should help you if you need to know who is the trustee of the machine you'r e on and you can't keep up with the CW IDer. >...I do think some degree of testing is required, at least for a little while >longer, although I'd like to see the morse requirement dropped. I for one ha ve >no plans to EVER learn code, even if it means I have to wait another 20 years >before I can do HF... I have more constructive things to do with my time, li ke >run my business, or worry if the sync pulse on my ATV unit is too high... That's the whole idea behind incentive licensing. If the effort required to g et on HF is not worth the benefit, maybe your interests in the hobby lie elsewher e. Plans can be changed, and HF will always be there for you should you change yo ur mind. Even if it takes 20 years. >This is an issue that will never go away until code is abolished... Whoa, you want to abolish code? What will my Vibroplex and I do? >If the >'old-timers' are worried about the integrity and intelligence of the operator s >allowed to run HF, then how about replacing the HF requirement with a >P.C. proficiency requirement... I can see it now: 504a) If an ATV image of a beautiful woman is transmitted, you should: 1. Signal the wolf whistle 2. Ask for her fax number 3. Ignore it and remain professional 4. Notify the nearest FCC office The most P.C. answer, of course is (3). Seriously, though, you went on to explain what you meant by PC: >Packet connections, RTTY, etc. A PC test could >include sitting down at a computer and hooking a TNC up to a computer and rad io, >configuring the software and connecting to a node. Or, how about a requireme nt >for Radio Programming proficiency?? It seems that many hams, both new-comers >and old-timers have trouble setting up these new hi-tech rigs... I find it interesting that you argue against the CW test elements, but suggest two other tests that have so much in common with the CW elements. The princip al argument against the CW element has been that it tests the applicant in the operation of modes which constitute a subset of the hobby in which he may not have an interest at the time of testing. Your proposals would do the same, an d I'm sure we would have similar arguments breaking out over them. Why should I have to show that I can operate packet if I have no interest in doing so? -- .........Monty. mwilson@bangate.compaq.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:47 1996 From: adell@planet.net ( Steve - KF2TI) Landing, NJ Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: No-Code Crybabys Date: 27 Mar 1996 00:48:40 GMT Message-ID: <4ja398$gcv@jupiter.planet.net> References: <4j5r02$sq4@lehi.kuentos.guam.net> > pacrimgolf@saba.kuentos.guam.net (Jim Kehler) writes: . Before that I was very active on HF, worked about > 49,000 stations from here in Guam, and was active in my younger years > in HF contesting. > > Of all the no-code types licensed here in Guam > Guam > > Remember when you used to get a DXCC list from the ARRL for free ? > Now they sell you one for 2 bucks (and if you live in Guam they mail > it surface mail to save 3 cents and it takes 3 months to get here). I > > > 73, Jim KH2D > > >>>> GUAM????? i need guam 599 NNJ qsl ??? copy??? over??? HMMMMM it's been 30 seconds..where's my qsl card???? 73, steve From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:48 1996 From: myers@West.Sun.COM (Dana Myers) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: No-Code Crybabys Date: 25 Mar 1996 07:17:10 GMT Message-ID: <4j5h9m$k13@abyss.West.Sun.COM> References: <199603221818.NAA18227@grtk> <1996Mar23.145043.9284@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4j3m77$h49@lehi.kuentos.guam.net> In article <4j3m77$h49@lehi.kuentos.guam.net>, Jim Kehler , in an unabashed flame that would have been much more appropriate for private e-mail, wrote: >Just becuase one part of the hobby is something you >don't (or can't) participate in, don't fool yourself into thinking the rest >of the world can't either. With only a minor change, this statement can apply quite well to the Morse exams: Just becuase one part of the hobby is something you like to participate in, don't fool yourself into thinking the rest of the world should be forced to, also. Now, please respect the Followup-To: line. -- * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are mine and should * * (310) 348-6043 | not be interpreted or represented as * * Dana.Myers@West.Sun.Com | those of Sun Microsystems, Inc. * From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:49 1996 From: "S. Sampson" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: NWS WWIN EMWIN and One-Way Data Solutions Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 22:34:04 -0600 Message-ID: <3156223C.ED7@telepath.com> A friend of mine went to the Tulsa hamfest this weekend, and saw a demo by SkyWalker Data Systems. They sell a decoder for the NWS data transmissions. I hadn't heard of this, and it sounded interesting to see what I could find on the Web. It was quite a battle with the several search engines, but I finally did track down the main page. It is: http://www.nws.noaa.gov/oso/oso1/oso12/document/emwin.htm There's a schematic and protocol description. Basically it is 1200,N,8,1 and the components are a TCM3105 and a MAX232. Here locally (Oklahoma City area) the data is transmitted on 169.025. I think this is a great application for home use. How many of us really listen to the NWS audio? The data products will be of much higher value. I notice that Kantronics has released their new Amateur Paging upgrade to the KPC-9612. It might make a great combo to transmit Alerts via alphanumeric pagers (people chasing storms). I can see the need for voice diminishing, and the greater throughput and reliability that can be achieved. I'm sure there are many more applications for both of these systems. I'm thinking about making a clone of the NWS idea and transmitting all the BBS messages as files. A person would never have to log on to a BBS ever again. Anyone could just tune an old scanner to the frequency and use the software to store each file. You could then read the junk once a month a keep up with the Morse Code debate :-) Here's the two companies with products: 1) Maryland Radio Center, Inc. 8576 Laureldale Drive Laurel, MD 20724 (301) 725-1212 (800) 447-7489 BBS with demo software (301) 725-8307 EMWIN datastream on-line demo, 1200-8-N-1 (301) 725-6467 a) MRC demodulator kit, unassembled $29.95 b) MRC demodulator, assembled and tested $69.95 c) MRC Weathernode software $49.95 d) MRC WeatherNode software plus the demodulator kit $69.95 e) MRC WeatherNode software plus the assembled demodulator $99.95 $5 shipping, + 5% sales tax for MD addresses. Call for their latest prices and special discounts. 2) SkyWalker Data Systems, Inc. 7303 West 35th Str. Tulsa, OK 74107 (918) 445-1488 a) MRC Weathernode software plus the assembled demodulator $99.95 $5 shipping, + 4.5% sales tax for OK addresses. -- Steve Sampson, N5OWK mailto:ssampson@telepath.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:50 1996 From: malezet@MicroNet.fr (Malezet Jean-Pierre F6FLV) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: On what FTP HOST can I upload a HAM homebrew software about CW meteor scatter Date: 24 Mar 1996 18:50:12 GMT Message-ID: <4j45h4$gk1@chleuasme.francenet.fr> 73 QRO dear OM. Tks reading this mail. I would like to upload on a HAM FTP HOST my software who do TX and RX CW MS hight speed with a single PC286 (or more) and a very small interface (as JVFAX). But, I can't upload my software (ZIP file of about 110 kByte with C source, help, database, ....) on a FTP HOST because the writting access is denied. Who can help me to give a access to a HOST or give me the adress of a HAM FTP HOST with permissive upload ? Tks a lot, Jean-Pierre -Packet : F6FLV@F6KRK.FRPA.EU -Internet : malezet@MicroNet or 101707,2125@Compuserve From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:51 1996 From: mulveyr@ll.aa2ys.ampr.org (Rich Mulvey) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: On what FTP HOST can I upload a HAM homebrew software about CW meteor scatter Date: 25 Mar 1996 12:51:46 GMT Message-ID: References: <4j45h4$gk1@chleuasme.francenet.fr> Reply-To: mulveyr@vivanet.com On 24 Mar 1996 18:50:12 GMT, Malezet Jean-Pierre F6FLV w rote: >73 QRO dear OM. >Tks reading this mail. > >I would like to upload on a HAM FTP HOST my software who do TX and RX >CW MS hight speed with a single PC286 (or more) and a very small >interface (as JVFAX). > >But, I can't upload my software (ZIP file of about 110 kByte with C source, >help, database, ....) on a FTP HOST because the writting access is denied. > >Who can help me to give a access to a HOST or give me the adress of a >HAM FTP HOST with permissive upload ? Have you tried ftp.ucsd.edu? -- Rich Mulvey, aa2ys Rochester, NY USA mulveyr@vivanet.com aa2ys@net.wb2psi.ampr.org aa2ys@wb2psi.#wny.ny.us From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:51 1996 From: randyh@gvgadg.gvg.tek.com (Randy Hall) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Phone number for EF Johnson needed Date: 26 Mar 1996 17:49:46 GMT Distribution: usa Message-ID: <4j9anq$h44@gv-gate.gvg.tek.com> Reply-To: randyh@gvgadg.gvg.tek.com (Randy Hall) I need the phone number for EF Johnson, for the group that sells the radios. Thanks, Randy WA2AGE randyh@gvgadg.gvg.tek.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:52 1996 From: sscherme@capecod.net (Skid Schermerhorn, W1TTY) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Phone number for EF Johnson needed Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 13:24:45 GMT Message-ID: <4je407$drt@alpha.pcix.com> References: <4j9anq$h44@gv-gate.gvg.tek.com> <4jc8op$bik@newsgate.sps.mot.com> Reply-To: sscherme@capecod.net Jim wrote: >Believe it or not, E.F. Johnson is listed in directory information >in Wauseca, Wisconsin. >Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to determine the >area code for Wauseca and call directory information. >Should you or any of your team be captured, the Wouff Hong will disavow >all knowledge of your activities. >N6OTQ AT&T home pages list two 800 numbers: 800-247-8256 800-328-3911 73 Skid W1TTY From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:53 1996 From: Roland S Geter PhD Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Phone number for EF Johnson needed Date: 28 Mar 1996 00:35:35 GMT Message-ID: <4jcmsn$68a@news1.goodnet.com> References: <4j9anq$h44@gv-gate.gvg.tek.com> To: randyh@gvgadg.gvg.tek.com What did you want to know about EF Johnson? Maybe I can help you. Something to do with a certain model of equipment? Roland S Geter - WB6LNA/7 From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:54 1996 From: hansons@mailbag.com (Jason Hanson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.antenna Subject: Problem with Indoor HF system Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 23:14:43 GMT Message-ID: <4j9tul$lni@grandcanyon.binc.net> Reply-To: hansons@mailbag.com I have an Icom IC-730 HF rig powered by a Pyramid 30A power supply. I have just acquired the MFJ-1621, an indoor/portable antenna with built-in tuning system. I am having a problem however. On most bands, especially 20M, if I try to key the transmitter the transceiver dies completely, just as though the power were shut off. Further, the power supply meters all go to zero. The only thing on the whole system that works is the power supply power light. :) The only way to get anything back to life is to cycle the power on the power supply... I suspect that this is some sort of RF feedback problem - throwing random lengths of wire on the transmitter ground lug does some to help. Does this sound like RF feedback, or something else? What solutions do you recommend? Thanks in advance... From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:55 1996 From: mkeitz@bev.net (Mike Keitz) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.antenna Subject: Re: Problem with Indoor HF system Date: 27 Mar 1996 17:31:27 GMT Message-ID: <4jbu1f$ma5@solaris.cc.vt.edu> References: <4j9tul$lni@grandcanyon.binc.net> In article <4j9tul$lni@grandcanyon.binc.net>, hansons@mailbag.com (Jason Hanso n) says: > >I have an Icom IC-730 HF rig powered by a Pyramid 30A power supply. I >have just acquired the MFJ-1621, an indoor/portable antenna with >built-in tuning system. I am having a problem however. > >On most bands, especially 20M, if I try to key the transmitter the >transceiver dies completely, just as though the power were shut off. >Further, the power supply meters all go to zero. The only thing on >the whole system that works is the power supply power light. :) > >The only way to get anything back to life is to cycle the power on the >power supply... The power has indeed been shut off. Most power supplies contain a "crowbar" circuit that fires a SCR to shunt out the output should the voltage rise much above the rated value. This protects your radio from receiving 20-30 V should the regulator in the power supply fail. Most likely, RF is being rectified in the power supply and causing it to regulate improperly, though it is possible that only the crowbar circuit is being fooled. (it would be unwise to simply disconnect the SCR, of course). So the solution is to keep RF away from the power supply. This could be hard to do with an indoor antenna. Obviously, the first measure is to move the antenna as far as possible from the equipment. The cord between the power supply and the radio can act as an antenna. So ideally shorten it (you may not be ready to do that since those cords are expensive) or coil it up to the minimum length possible with setting the power supply right next to or under the radio. Placing ferrite cores on the power lead and the antenna coax may help too. Now that the supply and the radio are right next to each other, bond them together with a grounding strap. Try putting a capacitor (0.01 - 0.1 uF disc) across the output terminals of the supply, or even better a group of 3 capacitors in a triangle from the two ouput terminals and the supply case. If none of this helps, try operating from a 12V lead-acid battery instead of the power supply. This may uncover other problems, such as RF getting into the microphone cord or on the radio case (the knobs feel "hot"). If that is the case, better grounding or otherwise trapping RF from getting back onto the outside of the coax is in order. It is tough to get a good ground in an apartment situation which I assume you have. -Mike KD4QDM From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:57 1996 From: k0hb@hamlink.mn.org (Hans Brakob) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Qcao Membership drive Message-ID: <827921715.AA05809@hamlink.mn.org> Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 09:06:58 -0100 Cleaning up my hard drive, I came across this old gem. Enjoy, de Hans, K0HB - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The Quarter Century Appliance Operators was founded in the early 1950's by a small group of Amateur Radio operators from the Pacific Northwest. They had been active in their hobby for over 25 years, yet still lacked the basic knowledge of radio electronics and had no idea of how their equipment worked. They banded together to try and protect each others honor and pride. At radio gatherings and club meetings in the 1950s one was considered unworthy of the name Ham Radio Operator if he or she couldn't not only name components, but know how to solder them together and make a radio work! When faced with insults and dreision, those few hardy pioneers banded together and formed the First Chapter and National Organization of the QCAO. This was known as the "Cold Solder" Chapter. They even coined the now-famous club byword "e pluribus ignoramae" which is Latin for "We don't have to know how to solder, we just wanna talk on our radios." No veterans of that first chapter are known to be active on the air today. In the late 1950s and early '60s, with the worldwide interest in science and space and technology, the QCAO membership went underground. It is with great pride and dignity that today in the 1990s the revived QCAO stands ready to rise from the ashes, and become the standard of mediocrity it once proudly was. In honor of those first pioneering members, QCAO hereby invites all eligible applicants to step forward and join! The benefits of QCAO include not only the pride of membership. Think of the warm glow you will feel at club meetings and gatherings showing off your new all-plastic imprinted QCAO pocket protector! And that's not all! For your minimal membership fee, you will also receive a handsome, suitable-for-framing, certificate of honor, with hand-lettered name and Charter Membership Number. Other QCAO memorabilia will soon be available for members, including T-shirts, caps, pins, etc. At this date charter membership numbers are still available. Membership requires a 25 years (more or less) interest in Amateur Radio, coupled with a basic ignorance of how radios work and how to repair them. Think of meeting other QCAO members on the air! No more embarrassing pauses when someone in the QSO mentions an RF choke or a parasitic bleeder...Be able to exchange meaningful sharing, talk about real things, yes, even swap QCAO numbers with each other! And soon perhaps . . . a worldwide QCAO contest! You no longer have to shrink to the back of the room at post- meeting sessions of your radio club. Just display your QCAO protector and others will be able to identify you immediately. Who knows? Perhaps one of the originals from that old QCAO Chapter is just waiting for you to find him. Join now! Remember "We don't have to know how to solder, we just wanna talk on our radios"! Don't let technoids embarrass you and kick jargon in your face. Stand up for what's right! Join QCAO! "e pluribus ignoramae" ----- Original author unknown, so flame her. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:58 1996 From: Hans K0HB <71111.260@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy Subject: QRO Merchants Date: 29 Mar 1996 04:17:40 GMT Message-ID: <4jfo94$lgp$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> In light of all the heat and smoke here lately about "QRO merchants" and "high power contesters", it was interesting to note that the results of a recent major ARRL contest show only 18% of the stations used high power (more than 150W). (Sample size = 3,032 entries.) 7% ran less than 5W, and the remaining 75% ran somewhere between 5W and 150W (most probably 100W). -- --73, de Hans K0HB --Minds, like parachutes, only work when they are opened. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:38:59 1996 From: sniper@one.net (Bob) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: R.L.Drake Radio club on the Web Date: 26 Mar 1996 21:57:56 GMT Message-ID: <4j9p94$7fi@news.one.net> Reply-To: sniper@one.net The R.L.Drake Amateur Radio Club is on the web at w3.one.net/~sniper Become an Honorary member ! Check it out..... Bob From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:00 1996 From: g4kfk@aol.com (G4KFK) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Radio amateurs speak Esperanto Date: 25 Mar 1996 05:02:46 -0500 Message-ID: <4j5r06$bgi@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <4j5nen$kav@tube.news.pipex.net> In article <4j5nen$kav@tube.news.pipex.net>, walt@servelan.co.uk (Walt Davidson) writes: >Subject: Re: Radio amateurs speak Esperanto >From: walt@servelan.co.uk (Walt Davidson) >Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 08:58:50 GMT >I should think more radio amateurs speak Classical Latin than Esperanto! ISTR a recent survey showed that more people now speak KLINGON than Esparanto. I know of one radio amateur who speaks Klingon (G7LTT). Are there any others? >(Morse Code is a perfectly satisfactory international language.) Agreed - but CW's opponents fail to see it as a language, just as a means of encoding English. Qap'lagh Mike G4KFK 73 Mike G4KFK From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:01 1996 From: bmasala@worldnet.net (Bruno MASALA) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave,uk.radio.amateur Subject: Radio amateurs speak Esperanto Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 15:11:01 +0300 Message-ID: Radio amateurs speak Esperanto in Europe: sun, mon 12h30: 14266 kHz mon to fri 8h30: 7066 wed 19h45: 3633 mon 17h: 3770 thu: 16h: 3770. SouthAmerica: sat, sun 20h30: 14266. Pacific Region: sat 22h: 21266 sat 24h: 21266. All times UTC Bruno -- Bruno Masala OSIEK AERA La Gazeto From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:02 1996 From: jbaltz@news.cs.columbia.edu (Jerry B. Altzman) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Radio amateurs speak Esperanto Date: 25 Mar 1996 12:05:48 -0500 Message-ID: <4j6jpc$69v@play.cs.columbia.edu> References: <4j5nen$kav@tube.news.pipex.net> <4j5r06$bgi@newsbf02.news.aol.com> In article <4j5r06$bgi@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, G4KFK wrote: >In article <4j5nen$kav@tube.news.pipex.net>, walt@servelan.co.uk (Walt >Davidson) writes: > >>Subject: Re: Radio amateurs speak Esperanto >>From: walt@servelan.co.uk (Walt Davidson) >>Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 08:58:50 GMT >>I should think more radio amateurs speak Classical Latin than Esperanto! >ISTR a recent survey showed that more people now speak KLINGON than >Esparanto. >I know of one radio amateur who speaks Klingon (G7LTT). Are there any >others? N2KOT just co-edited the translation of Hamlet "back into the original Klingon". >Mike //jbaltz -- jerry b. altzman Entropy just isn't what it used to be +1 212 650 5617 jbaltz@cs.columbia.edu jbaltz@scisun.sci.ccny.cuny.edu KE3ML From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:03 1996 From: dreambig@ix.netcom.com(LARRY PIKE ) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Radio Classes in Chgo - Nov/Tek/Gen/Adv/Xtra Date: 26 Mar 1996 04:56:23 GMT Message-ID: <4j7tdn$65e@cloner3.netcom.com> So the printer said .... "What's the big deal -- It's only one letter off!" They are nice cards - just the wrong callsign. So I asked myself "What can I do with all these QSL cards that are 'almost' right?" And then it came to me -- turn lemons into lemonade and send them out anyway to introduce myself and my "one-day license seminars" to other hams. My idea is simply this -- ham radio classes see a lot of drop-outs because the classes go on too darn long! People have better things to do with their lives than attend 6 to 12 weeks of ham radio classes. I am looking for students and sponsors for one-day license workshops. If you know anyone interested in getting their Novice ticket or upgrading to Technician, General, Advanced or Extra, please have them call me. I will teach a one-day theory seminar & workshop for any license level -- Novice through Extra. I've taught ham radio to about 300 people during the past 10 years from Novice through Extra and always enjoy the excitement in the faces in front of me. What do I need to make this happen? I am looking for a club that wants to sponsor the workshops. The sponsoring club will: 1) provide a suitable room for an all-day seminar and 2) get students lined up for the classes. What will the club get in return for their effort? Classes are a great source of new members. Classes can also be an income producer if the club wants to charge for them. Keep the money as a donation to the club or let that money pay for a one-year club membership for the new ham. My services are free to the club and the students. Please call me if.... * Your club or repeater group is interested in sponsoring a workshop * You or someone you know is interested in a one-day Upgrade Workshop * You know someone interested in a one-day Novice Workshop 73 de WD9HCR Larry Pike (847) 776-3004 dreambig@ix.netcom.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:04 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.amateur.misc From: wb6w@netcom.com (Glenn Thomas) Subject: Re: Radio Shack-You've got questions?-We've got BLANK STARES! Message-ID: References: <4j1egi$enp@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> <4jae28$fg8@crash.microserve.net> Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 06:33:52 GMT HA! Good (and typical) stories. My favorite experience was the time I was checking out a shortwave reveiver (new model) and happened on a radio Netherlands program on how to buy a shortwave radio. The announcer said, "here are three questions that your salesperson should be able to answer. If they don't know the answers, take your business elsewhere." At that point, the RS salescreature said, "Turn it off." (*snicker*) BTW - No, I don't remember what the three questions were... -- ********************************************************************* * "Two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do." * * * * wb6w@netcom.com - Glenn Thomas * ********************************************************************* From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:05 1996 From: pacrimgolf@saba.kuentos.guam.net (Jim Kehler) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Repeater "Broadcasting"? Date: 24 Mar 1996 14:42:14 GMT Message-ID: <4j3n06$h49@lehi.kuentos.guam.net> References: <4j224j$8v6@allinux2.alliance.net> LarryTambling (mag4419@mail.alliance.net) wrote: : Your input, please on the following situation: An amateur radio : operator using a local 2 meter repeater calls for his friend, another : Ham. The other operator doesn't answer, so the first guy transmits : again by IDíng then says "clear." Is this guy "broadcasting" : according to FCC Part 97? If it is not broadcasting in the : legal/technical sense, is the Ham following good operating practice? : Please discuss thoroughly and provide examples and references - have : fun!! Larry, it depends on how much you like the guy.... If he wasn't talking to anyone, I guess some people would say he was 'broadcasting'. If you don't like the guy, and he's not broadcasting, some people would say it's poor practice to transmit 'unnecessary' stuff... If you like the guy, let's say it's good amateur practice, i.e., he made his call, and now is letting people know he's finished with the repeater and anyone else needing to use it can go ahead. Repeater 'ettiquette' seems to be different depending where you are and whose repeater you are using. I doubt seriously the candy company would say he was broadcasting, and they are the only one's who really count when it comes to rules infractions. In our neighborhood, we would consider what happened as A-OK..... 73, Jim KH2D From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:06 1996 From: sscherme@capecod.net (Skid Schermerhorn, W1TTY) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Repeater "Broadcasting"? Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 14:55:41 GMT Message-ID: <4j3nu2$qq1@alpha.pcix.com> References: <4j224j$8v6@allinux2.alliance.net> Reply-To: sscherme@capecod.net mag4419@mail.alliance.net (LarryTambling) wrote: >Your input, please on the following situation: An amateur radio >operator using a local 2 meter repeater calls for his friend, another >Ham. The other operator doesn't answer, so the first guy transmits >again by IDíng then says "clear." Is this guy "broadcasting" >according to FCC Part 97? If it is not broadcasting in the >legal/technical sense, is the Ham following good operating practice? >Please discuss thoroughly and provide examples and references - have >fun!! This is sort of a "which comes first, the chicken or the egg." Think first of the rules as they pertain to the operator's station. You are required to ID only at the END of the QSO. So when you call your frind and give your call, that call can be considered the end of a QSO which in this case could be a sort of a braodcast. Many folks do say somthing like nothing heard and give their call again and that is probably more of a broadcast than just the simple call. Now the fact that the operator was transmitting on the input of a repeater makes absolutely no difference in the question since the signals are all the same but in the case of the repeater can be heard further away. In a narrow sense, the signals may be broadcasting but the common term for broadcasting seems to mean more than a very short transmission. It is more longer transmissions. FCC rules would appear to suppport this view in that it makes special provisions for the broadcasting or one way transmissions for code practice and bulletins BTW, the use of "nothing heard" grates on my ears almost as badly as the often heard, "... for ID." Both are wasteful of air time. 73 Skid W1TTY From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:07 1996 From: Robert Bissett Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Repeater "Broadcasting"? Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 01:08:35 -0500 Message-ID: <315789E3.31F6@monmouth.com> References: <4j224j$8v6@allinux2.alliance.net> To: LarryTambling LarryTambling wrote: > = > Your input, please on the following situation: An amateur radio > operator using a local 2 meter repeater calls for his friend, another > Ham. The other operator doesn't answer, so the first guy transmits > again by ID=EDng then says "clear." Is this guy "broadcasting" > according to FCC Part 97? If it is not broadcasting in the > legal/technical sense, is the Ham following good operating practice? > Please discuss thoroughly and provide examples and references - have > fun!! Your thinly-disguised attempt to stir up trouble and watch others argue while you sit back and laugh will not, I hope, attract very many = people. Go elsewhere for the material you need for your paper or report or whatever . All the material you need is in the FCC rules..read them. -- = ********* Bob Bissett rbissett@monmouth.com ********* From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:08 1996 From: "S. Sampson" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Repeater "Broadcasting"? Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 11:47:46 -0600 Message-ID: <3156DC42.FE7@telepath.com> References: <4j224j$8v6@allinux2.alliance.net> LarryTambling wrote: > = > Your input, please on the following situation: An amateur radio > operator using a local 2 meter repeater calls for his friend, another > Ham. The other operator doesn't answer, so the first guy transmits > again by ID=EDng then says "clear." Is this guy "broadcasting" > according to FCC Part 97? = Get a life. -- = Steve Sampson, N5OWK mailto:ssampson@telepath.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:09 1996 From: mag4419@mail.alliance.net (LarryTambling) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Repeater "Broadcasting"? Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 23:39:27 GMT Message-ID: <4j224j$8v6@allinux2.alliance.net> Your input, please on the following situation: An amateur radio operator using a local 2 meter repeater calls for his friend, another Ham. The other operator doesn't answer, so the first guy transmits again by IDíng then says "clear." Is this guy "broadcasting" according to FCC Part 97? If it is not broadcasting in the legal/technical sense, is the Ham following good operating practice? Please discuss thoroughly and provide examples and references - have fun!! From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:10 1996 From: "C. Wheeler" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Repeater "Broadcasting"? Date: 26 Mar 1996 22:23:13 GMT Message-ID: <4j9qoh$rce@gaudi.lahabra.chevron.com> References: <4j224j$8v6@allinux2.alliance.net> mag4419@mail.alliance.net (LarryTambling) wrote: >Your input, please on the following situation: An amateur radio >operator using a local 2 meter repeater calls for his friend, another >Ham. The other operator doesn't answer, so the first guy transmits >again by IDíng then says "clear." Is this guy "broadcasting" >according to FCC Part 97? No, he is not broadcasting. In amateur radio, broadcasting is defined as "Transmissions intended for reception by the the general public." Put away Webster's dictionary - the only definitions that works for this question is what is in 97.3(a)(10). In general, one way transmissions are prohibited by 97.113(b). However that section provides for exceptions that are allowed elswhere in the rules. 97.111(b)(2) eliminate any question about whether calling another station is considered a prohibited one-way transmission. It may be a one-way transmission, but it is permitted. Station identification is a permitted one-way transmission. The ID requirements of 97.119 still apply, even if no two way communication was established with another station. >If it is not broadcasting in the >legal/technical sense, is the Ham following good operating practice? >Please discuss thoroughly and provide examples and references - have >fun!! Sounds good to me - but then "good amateur practice" is often a subjective thing. He called another station - the station did not answer - he gives his call and says "clear", indicating to other amateur stations (not the general public) that he has completed his call and is "clearing" the channel so someone else can use it. Some will argue that "clearing" is not necessary. On a quiet repeater maybe not. On a busy system, "clearing" the channel leaves no doubt to others that channel is available. This was too easy... There has got to be more to this request for input. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:11 1996 From: clarke@aztec.asu.edu (JACK CLARKE) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Repeater "Broadcasting"? Date: 24 Mar 1996 19:07:52 GMT Message-ID: <4j46i8$1fq@news.asu.edu> To: Jim, KH2D I like your explanation! Nobody can top that one. de Jack VE3EED/W7 -- From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:12 1996 From: slapinskas@delphi.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Repeater setup (how to weasel) Date: Sat, 23 Mar 96 00:24:32 -0500 Message-ID: References: <4idkn1$kmf@news1.goodnet.com> <4imv37$dgp@nntpa.cb.att.com> Warren Ring writes: >on site without an insider helping (sponsoring) you, since that's >an invitation to be charged ever-increasing rent. Amen to that....some sites here are getting $400 a month for the antenna space alone in New England.... Steve Lapinskas KA1JJA From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:13 1996 From: root@falstaf.demon.co.uk (Charlie Root) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Restoring vintage kit Date: 23 Mar 1996 19:40:06 -0000 Message-ID: <4j1k2m$75n@falstaf.demon.co.uk> Dear All, I am an SWL living in the UK. I am restoring some old RAF airborne sets, a T1154, R1155 combo to be precise. I've got one going but need some spares for the other 3. Has anybody got, or know where I might find, the meters that go in these sets?. One is labeled MAG FEED and is a square (about 1.5 inch) meter in a bakelite case made by sangamo weston part no 10A/12140. It goes up to 300 with an actual FSD at 100mA. The second is labelled A.E.AMPS and is a thermocouple meter with an FSD of 3.5 AMPS. Same case and manufacturer. Part no 10A/12162. I need one of the MAG FEED and three of the A.E.AMPS. Replies by EMail please as my connection to news is a bit flaky. Cheers Robin Birch robin@falstaf.demon.co.uk From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:14 1996 From: taylor@tix.timeplex.COM (Seth Taylor) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Rohn RTP Series Date: 22 Mar 96 18:43:50 GMT Message-ID: <9603221836.AA01792@tix.timeplex.com> In March 96 QST there's an ad for a new series of ROHN RTP self supporting towers. They are supposed to be actually designed for self support, unlike the 25 and 45 etc. which are not, but often installed that way. Does anyone have any experience with the RTP series? They are made in 40 to 190 ft. designs. Seth KC2WE From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:15 1996 From: Clint.Bradford@228.woodybbs.com (Clint Bradford) Date: 25 Mar 96 17:21:00 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Roll-up J-Pole Message-ID: <3a9_9603260112@woodybbs.com> === 2m/70cm Dual Band J-Pole made from 300 ohm twin lead === _____ _______ ___ | | | | | | O | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | 54-1/4" | | 38-1/2" | | | | | | | | | | | | | | _| | | | N |_ _|__ | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | 15-3/4" | | | | | |_______| ___ | | | | 1/4" | _|_ | | ___ _|__ ^ ^ | | Coax Inner Coax Outer Conductor Conductor SWR is 2:1 across the 2m band and from 435mhz to 450mhz on the 70cm band. 1. Use good quality TV twin lead. 2. Strip insulation at the solder point for coax feedline. 3. Cut out and remove the 1/2" long notch N. 4. Feed with a length of 50 ohm coax and terminate with the appropriate connector. Tape coax at feedpoint to the twin lead, or use heat shrink, and make sure the joints are insulated from each other. 5. Antenna may be sleeved inside 1/2" PVC for outside mounting or hung on a loop of string run thru hole O. --- * wcECHO 4.1 ~ AR-Net: ATTENTION to Details * Mira Loma, CA * 909-681-6221 -- |Fidonet: Clint Bradford 1:2619/228 |Internet: Clint.Bradford@228.woodybbs.com | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:16 1996 From: raiar@inlink.com (Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr.) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Roll-up J-Pole Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 18:56:13 GMT Message-ID: <4jemh3$hlm@news1.inlink.com> References: <3a9_9603260112@woodybbs.com> Hey Clint A handy little pocket J-Pole can be constructed of a piece of broken tape rule. Rolls up in a snap and stays open when unrolled. TTUL Gary From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:18 1996 From: bert@skypilot.demon.co.uk Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: rsgb april 1996 editorial by G0TWW Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 18:42:12 GMT Message-ID: <827779286.6105@skypilot.demon.co.uk> Radcom April 1996 Stop the Knocking I have noted in recent weeks the proliferation of anti-RSGB diatribe on the packet network. I know members will say this has been going on for years. But recently it seems to have become most fashionable to knock the Society and its work at every given opportunity. It must be extremely frustrating for the perpetrators that the Society does not respond in a similar vain. To take one example of the criticism aimed at the Society , I recently read that the Society fails to take account the views of its members. Nothing could be further from the truth. Over the past two years the Society has held a number of regional meetings up and down the country. These meetings where open to both members and non-members, and gave detractors the ideal opportunity to put forward their views. With out exception theses meetings were very poorly attended. At most of the large rallies and events we attend there is always a chance to take to task members of the HQ team, myself included, and members of Council and the volunteers Committees. Most people who take the time to talk to us are most supportive of the work of the Society. I think at times members and non-members of the Society forget that the vast majority of the work carried out by the Society on behalf of the amateur radio community within the UK is done by volunteers. Over 2000 people work on a volunteer basis for the Society. Without the efforts of these dedicated people, amateur radio would have sunk without trace years ago. All of us that hold a license and enjoy our hobby own them a debt of gratitude for their efforts. They certainly do not deserve the level of criticism aimed them by a few mis-informed mischief makers who have put their views across on the packet network, but do not have the courage to raise their views face-to-face when given the opportunity. Criticism of HQ staff is acceptable, because the staff and I are paid to service the needs of the membership. However such criticism should not be on packet network, because HQ staff - as professionals - are prohibited from using amateur radio to reply. If we are failing in our duties then I would welcome any constructive criticism in writing, back by facts and figures. That would give me and the staff the opportunity to make any changes required to improve the service. Misinformed criticism is unproductive and serves no purpose other than to create ill-feeling.I am sure that many thousands of amateurs are fed up as I am at the rubbish put out on packet by a few operators who feel the network is there solely to broadcast their views. Its time the knocking stopped, because in the eyes of the general pubic it does nothing to enhance the reputation of amateur radio which is already suffering enough from "external" sources. By Peter Kirby G0TWW General Manager.  From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:20 1996 From: pklein@news.seattleu.edu (Peter A. Klein) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Senator Goldwater Intervi Date: 25 Mar 1996 11:05:02 -0800 Message-ID: <4j6qov$2h0@handel.seattleu.edu> References: <360_9603222217@woodybbs.com> Clint Bradford wrote: >>>An in-depth, amateur radio interview, 2 hours in length, is now >>>available on the net, via RealAudio, courtesy of TAPR and Greg Jones. In article <360_9603222217@woodybbs.com>, >And why is this of importance? Was it a particularly good interview? >Does it promote Amateur Radio? Does it expose Goldwater's >ultra-conservative politics? Why should we be interested??? Sen. Goldwater is a long-time ham radio operator (K7UGA), and has been a staunch advocate of our fraternity in high places. I've heard that he still gets on the air. Goldwater was born in 1909, so he's seen the evolution of radio over most of the century. Whether you agree with his politics or not, he probably has quite a few good stories and insights to share. 73, Peter - KD7MW --- -- Peter A. Klein (pklein@seattleu.edu) : -----==3== --- --- Information Services, 5569 : | | | | | | | | Seattle University : @| @| @| @| @| @| @| @| From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:21 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: slay@netcom.com (Sandy Lynch) Subject: Re: Senator Goldwater Intervi Message-ID: References: <360_9603222217@woodybbs.com> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 20:21:00 GMT Interesting ................ "ultra-conservative", eh? Hmmm Be that as it may ... might surprise you to know that he hated Nixon because he was a "liar" ... and that the president he most admired during this century is/was .............. Harry S. Truman (Democrat) Put that in your pipe and smoke it. :-) Cheers Sandy "and unabashed radical middle-of-the-roader'". Clint Bradford (Clint.Bradford@228.woodybbs.com) wrote: : >>An in-depth, amateur radio interview, 2 hours in length, is now : >>available on the net, via RealAudio, courtesy of TAPR and Greg Jones. : And why is this of importance? Was it a particularly good interview? : Does it promote Amateur Radio? Does it expose Goldwater's : ultra-conservative politics? Why should we be interested??? : The fact that this Amateur Radio program exists is important and : pertinent. But please do us a favor and write a "mini-review" of the : interview, and let us know why you think it's valuable for us! : clint.bradford@atdbbs.com : --- : * TLX v4.00 * I'm not lost, I'm "locationally challenged"! : * wcECHO 4.1 ~ AR-Net: ATTENTION to Details * Mira Loma, CA * 909-681-6221 : -- : |Fidonet: Clint Bradford 1:2619/228 : |Internet: Clint.Bradford@228.woodybbs.com : | : | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:22 1996 From: ka_strom@ix.netcom.com(Kevin Alfred Strom) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.amtenna,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Shunt Feed Crank-up? Date: 29 Mar 1996 17:55:19 GMT Message-ID: <4jh867$eu@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> Has anyone ever shunt fed a crank-up tower? Is there a good electrical connection between sections, or do the sections need to be bonded together with a flexible cable? Thanks, Kevin WB4AIO in Rochester, Minnesota From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:23 1996 From: Mike Mayer Newsgroups: rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: the radio spectrum Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 12:45:52 -0500 Message-ID: <31582D50.10B3@boulder.vni.com> Brian Peterson posted about the big poster you can get from the USGPO called "United States Frequency Allocations - The Radio Spectrum". I did some checking. For example, Cleveland has a USGPO bookstore. They are out of stock on the poster, but they knew of it's existence. They will be ordering up some more (they said they'd even call me when they come in). And, they are only $3.50 apiece. Since they were out of stock, they were not able to look at one and tell me a printing date. Hopefully they are newer than 1987, as Brian observed. The guy on the phone said that they are folded up, but that they are also quite large when you unfold them. So, if you are near a med-large metro area, look up US Government Printing Office in the blue pages of your phone book, there may be one right in your back yard instead of checking with the main office in D.C. Mike -- ^v^v^v^v^v^v PV-WAVE: Where it's @! http://www.vni.com ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^ Michael Mayer, Senior Technical Support Engineer Amateur Radio KB8RJO Visual Numerics, Inc. 32915 Aurora Rd. Suite 160, Solon OH 44139 USA Email: mayer@boulder.vni.com Human: 216-248-4900 Fax: 216-248-2733 v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v Good * Cheap * Quick (pick any two) ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:25 1996 From: malezet@MicroNet.fr (Malezet Jean-Pierre F6FLV) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: THIS IS A SOFTWARE TO DO RX&TX meteor scatter CW MS high speed Date: 28 Mar 1996 22:49:34 GMT Message-ID: <4jf51u$k8@chleuasme.francenet.fr> Dear OM, - If you are a HAM, - If you enjoy CW and meteor scatter, - If you enjoy experimentation, Read this. This mail is about an experimental software to do high speed CW MS TX and RX. You need only a single PC (80286 or more), DOS 3.x (or more), with a serial in terface (or parallel in the futur). It work also with WIN95 in a DOS window. You can use it without any special equipment except a HAM TRX (of course) and a very small hardware interface, auto-alimented (1 comparator as a uA741 and 1 optocoupler), just to interface with the RX AF output and the TX keyer input. You can download this software on the host " ftp.sri.ucl.ac.be ". I put it on the directory " pub/incoming/hamradio/ ". (tks to Rich AA2YS and Bob N6FRI for info, but ftp.ucsd.edu dont work well fro m here, to many trafic!). I dont know what apen with this file because the transfert was complet but I c ant list the files !!! The name of the file is " CWMSTXRX.ZIP ", about 110kbyte. It contain " .exe ", " .hlp ", " .dtb ", ......files and the complete C source code. This software is a HAM freeware software : you can do what you need with it an d the code source. Unfortunately, some files are in French because : - I haven't no time to translate at this moment, - My English is very poor, - And this is just a software experiment (not a full package) : the first time I send it to HAM. But this software work : I use it for many years in TX, and I use it during th e last Quadrantide shower with the new DTR interface. What do this software ? : ************************* - It do TX CW call (Aurora, Es, DX, contest, beacon, automatic and periodic hi gh speed CW MS for skeds, ...) - You can access to the DL8EBW VHF database, to search a call, putting only on e or few characters, - And you can RECORD a high speed CW meteor scatter burst and PLAY BACK it SLO WLY, to decode (listen) CW at a normal speed (I think the automatic CW decodin g is not possible with meteor scatter bursts). The Principe of this DIGITAL TAPE RECORDER is very simple : ************************************************************ 1) RECORDING : - Each front of the RX-AF is sent to the serial input PC interface (with a sin gle comparator). - This front generate a software interrupt. - Each interrupt do : . Compare the timer with the last interrupt timer value, . Record the timers difference in an audio memory buffer. 2) PLAY BACK : - To play back, the software read the audio memory buffer, output a front on y our PC HP (with a higher frequency), and wait until the timer = audio-buffer-v alue * X. How to use this DTR : ********************* - You heard a CW burst then : stop recording at the end of the burst, - Use a software command to play-back the audio-buffer : The you listen the bu rst with a CW at normal speed !!! Sorry for my very bad English. Enjoy yourself with this experiment and please tell me if you get some chance or trouble. 73 QRO, and good DX. Jean-Pierre MALEZET Packet address = F6FLV@F6KRK.FRPA.FRA.EU Internet address = malezet@MicroNet.fr or 101707,2125@Compuserve From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:26 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: TTL/RS-232 converters Message-ID: <1996Mar21.173626.29184@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: <4inamj$t4u@news.scruz.net> Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 17:36:26 GMT In article <4inamj$t4u@news.scruz.net> todd@tj.org (Todd Jonz) writes: >I'm in the market for a pair rig-to-PC interfaces (TTL to RS-232 level >converters), one for a Yaesu FT-736R and another for a Kenwood TS-950SD. I >called the local HRO store to inquire about prices and availability and was >absolutely astonished to learn that they want $110 and $120, respectively, >for these little beasts. I assume that this is in the ballpark of the MSRP, >and that the other major suppliers will have similar prices. > >I recall seeing ads in the past in QST for several third parties offering >these interfaces in the $40 to $50 price range, but after pouring through >the last three issues, I've come up dry. Can anybody give me a pointer? > > >KB6JXT, Todd > >P.S. Please excuse what may be a stupid hardware question from an admitted > software geek, but us there any possible justification for a $120 > price tag on an item like this? Seems *way* out of line to me.... It isn't when you consider the small volume sold. Most of the cost is in handling and stocking and marketing the devices, of course. If you don't want to pay, then build your own. Digikey sells the MAX232 chip which will do the job, or you can go to Radio Shack and pick up a 1488 and a 1489 and do it the old fashioned way. In either case, you're out less than $10. The MAX232 is the better way, because it only needs +5 volts. The older chips needed external plus and minus supplies. You can also kludge it with an opamp or a couple of transistors and diodes, and that'll give you a parts cost under a dollar, though it is considerably more trouble, and won't work at as high a baud. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:28 1996 From: grhosler@mmm.com (Gary Hosler - KN0Z) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: TTL/RS-232 converters Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 22:03:15 GMT Message-ID: <4iskhm$o7t@dawn.mmm.com> References: <4inamj$t4u@news.scruz.net> todd@tj.org (Todd Jonz) wrote: >I'm in the market for a pair rig-to-PC interfaces (TTL to RS-232 level >converters), one for a Yaesu FT-736R and another for a Kenwood TS-950SD. I >called the local HRO store to inquire about prices and availability and was >absolutely astonished to learn that they want $110 and $120, respectively, >for these little beasts. I assume that this is in the ballpark of the MSRP, >and that the other major suppliers will have similar prices. >I recall seeing ads in the past in QST for several third parties offering >these interfaces in the $40 to $50 price range, but after pouring through >the last three issues, I've come up dry. Can anybody give me a pointer? >KB6JXT, Todd >P.S. Please excuse what may be a stupid hardware question from an admitted > software geek, but us there any possible justification for a $120 > price tag on an item like this? Seems *way* out of line to me.... Give Personal Database Applications a call at 770-307-1511 (makers of Logic Logging program). They offer the LCU3 interface device which is an interface that is housed inside a DB-25 connector. The interface gets its power from the computers serial port. The unit resides between the computer serial port and your HF rig. They have several models availabel depending on the rig your are trying to interface. The units are designed and made by Phil Whitehouse (W1GEE) and are priced in the $50.00 range. Give them a call for details as some rigs require additional stuff (some Kenwoods require the IF-10 kit be installed). 73's & GUD LUCK de KN0Z Gary in Wyoming, MN Opinions expressed herein are my own and may not represent those of 3M. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:29 1996 From: bert@skypilot.demon.co.uk Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: uk radiocommunication agency phone numbers Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 18:41:53 GMT Message-ID: <827779266.6105@skypilot.demon.co.uk> Due to the IRA London bombing of RA HQ, their new address is The UK Radiocommunications Agency Webb site =========================================== The Radiocommunications Agency is responsible for amateur radio in the UK and can be found at: Radiocommunications Agency New Kings Beam House 22 Upper Ground London SE1 9SA HTTP://www.open.gov.uk/radiocom/rahome.htm E-Mail address is: library.ra@gtnet.gov.uk RA Direct line phone numbers =========================== Jim Norton: Chief Executive RA 0171 211 0570 Roger Louth: RA Head of R2 Mobile Services 0171 211 0175 John Keeling Head of Amateur Radio 0171 211 0156 Karen Scott: Amateur Radio 0171 211 0157 Colin Richards: RIS/RSGB Committee Chairman 0171 211 0485 Doug Raynes: RIS Enforcement 0171 211 0463 Amateur radio: General Enquiries 0171 211 0160 CB: General Enquiries 0171 211 0159 CB: Complaints about abuse 0171 211 0463 RIS: General Enquiries 0171 211 0464 RA 24hr Publications order number 0171 211 0506 RA Switchboard: 0171 211 0211 RIS Baldock 24h 01462 454547/456551 John Roberts: SSL Chairman 0117 925 8333 Rod Alexander: SSL Managing Director 0117 925 8333 David Black: SSL Director of Operations 0117 925 8333 Kevin Mitchell: SSL Accounts Manager 0117 925 8333 Ann Hollaway: SSL Manager Amateur radio 0117 925 8333 The RA Internal Telephone Directory is available free from the ==== RA Library. It lists all RA staff and their grade, also listed are all RA Local offices addresses/telephone numbers/Managers.  From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:30 1996 From: jeffj@crl.com (Jeff Jones) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Using Omni directional antennas for Pacsasts? Date: 20 Mar 1996 22:02:46 -0800 Message-ID: <4iqre6$kj2@crl.crl.com> References: <4iqcue$bb4@crl.crl.com> I was wondering how well omni directional antennas would work with the Pacsats? As they are low orbit and fairly line of sight it seems a omni would work. Can someone enlighten me on this? Thanks and 73! Jeff AB6MB From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:31 1996 From: pacrimgolf@saba.kuentos.guam.net (Jim Kehler) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Using Omni directional antennas for Pacsasts? Date: 22 Mar 1996 12:42:36 GMT Message-ID: <4iu77t$gmv@lehi.kuentos.guam.net> References: <4iqcue$bb4@crl.crl.com> <4iqre6$kj2@crl.crl.com> Jeff Jones (jeffj@crl.com) wrote: : I was wondering how well omni directional antennas would work with the : Pacsats? As they are low orbit and fairly line of sight it seems a : omni would work. Can someone enlighten me on this? : Thanks and 73! : Jeff : AB6MB Jeff, Omni antennas will work on the pacsats, but not very effectivly. The slower (1200 baud) satellites are not used much, so with omni's you will have much better luck with these satellites. The 9600 baud pacsats are very crowded and because of the congestion on the uplinks, omni's are not very effective. Having been on the pacsats for the last few years, I have seen many discussions of omni antennas, and the general consensus seems to be they just don't cut the mustard. I use a pair of crossed KLM yagi's, and still need an amplifier to use the 9600 baud sats because of the congestion in this part of the world (mainly from Japan). If you can find a satellite noboy else is using, omni's will work fine, i.e., a pass that approaches Guam from the S.E. has noone in the footprint but Guam, and then 5 watts works great. As I said, if you are going to use omnis, I would suggest you try LUSAT(Lu-19) and PACSAT(Ao-16). Good luck. Jim, KH2D From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:32 1996 From: phillip.gane@zetnet.co.uk (Phillip Gane) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: VE7BXX Speak to me ??? Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 00:28:43 GMT Message-ID: <4iq7ut$ujk@irk.zetnet.co.uk> Hi Colin Can you email me if you are reading this, as you have put an in correct email address on your letter. If anybody knows or can get intouch with VE7BXX in White Rock BC could they ask him to get in touch with me Many thanks Phillip I just hope he takes this news group ?-- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= TTFN Phillip Gane Internet = phillip.gane@zetnet.co.uk Packet = GM4SUF @ GB7SUF.#76.GBR.EU From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:33 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: Wake Up Call! Message-ID: <1996Mar21.171933.28979@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Summary: Satellites Keywords: power Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: <4i2onb$6m3$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> <4i4ur2$p2b@usenet.pa.dec.com> <4i76me$88p@news.service.uci.edu> <1996Mar16.151605.7224@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <314D7A17.6AA4@arrl.org> Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 17:19:33 GMT In article <314D7A17.6AA4@arrl.org> Zack Lau writes: >Gary Coffman wrote: >> Since the antennas spend most of their time looking up, tall towers >> aren't mandatory. And antennas for UHF/SHF can certainly be smaller, >> but not yet in the DBS 18 inch class for P3D. To take advantage of >> really small antennas and low power, we're going to have to do what >> the DBS people have done, go all digital. We already see the promise >> of that with the microsats. Briefcase stations can be used to access >> those satellites *right now*. > >The DBS 18 inch dish should do just fine for 2.4 GHz. Actually, with >a good preamp it will even work for Oscar 13's experimental transponder. I can copy it with a 1.5 meter dish and preamp, with a good enough SNR to pass low rate information. An 18 inch dish would be, IMHO, pushing toward the limit of usability, if not detectability, of the Oscar 13 signals. >Back when it flew 2.4 GHz was real exotic territory. These days you >can buy a 2.4 GHz transceiver from Icom (the IC-970 with optional band >module). > >Actually, what the DBS people have really done is to run high power. 50 watts for a broadcast quality digital *television* signal is not what we'd generally call "high power", though for a satellite it is high power. But that's about the same power used for C and Ku band analog TVSATs, and I think that you'll be forced to agree that you need much more than an 18 inch dish to successfully receive them. The real difference offered by DBS is the fact that it is digital, with the coding gains that can imply. >We could do the same--a tiny quadrifilar helix will work just fine with >100 watts. A water cooled 2C39 easily does 100 watts on 1269 >MHz. But, from a safety standpoint, lower power and a bigger antenna >makes much more sense. I'm not so sure that even P3D could house a water cooled 2C39 and feed its power demand. It'd take over 300 watts of DC input to get that 100 watt output (the heater alone draws 60 watts). Even P3D's power budget would be exceeded. And water cooling doesn't buy that much when there's no convection. Not only would you have to mechanically pump the water through a radiator, the radiator would have to be just that, an actual radiative cooler with no help from convective atmospheric flows. I suspect it would be both a power bus and thermal control nightmare. And if it were a shared analog transponder, each individual signal would be much weaker than 100 watts. If there were 2 or more signals in the passband, the power delivered to Earth per signal would be less than from current C band analog TVSATs, so you're back to a 3 meter dish again. Remember, the power budget limit is in orbit, not on Earth. It depends on the amount of solar panels and batteries the satellite can carry. Those are fairly hard limits for amateur budget satellites, IE we can't hope to loft nuclear reactor powered ROSATs like the Soviets used to launch, or the huge solar arrays used by MIR. So we need to get gain another way. Coherent digital modulations are about the only way to beat the physical limitations on the satellite and still allow small Earth stations. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:35 1996 From: kd1hz@anomaly.ideamation.com (Michael P. Deignan) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy Subject: Re: Wake Up Call! Date: 25 Mar 1996 08:48:58 -0500 Message-ID: <4j688a$2th@anomaly.ideamation.com> References: <4i2onb$6m3$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> <1996Mar16.150047.7105@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <1996Mar20.013738.20157@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> In article <1996Mar20.013738.20157@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, Gary Coffman wrote: >We need an exam, to insure as much as possible that the applicant >knows enough not to be a hazard, and to remove the excuse "I didn't >know" from rules violators, but we don't need a Phd level test in >order to allow access to a learning laboratory where we hope over a >lifetime to *gain* Phd expertise. Okay, let's say for a second that I agree with you here. Why then: 1. Do I hear questions about "how do I build a dipole" ? 2. Why when a woman mentioned that her radio was "getting hot" and someone suggested she check her SWR she replied "you know I don't know anything about that stuff". While perhaps your statement above may be true, you certainly must agree that the existing testing system does not ensure that people have a sufficient level of technical expertise. Okay, granted that perhaps the two examples I mentioned are the exceptions to the rules. But I can turn on my radio almost any day and hear the same type of questions, even from some people who have been licensed for years. This would tend to contradict your last statement regarding a lifetime learning process. I don't profess to know everything about electronics and RF, but at least I have a copy of my ARRL Handbook around so when the time comes to build a dipole, I can easily look up the formula that I once knew for my test and have long since forgotten. MD -- -- -- "I have more guns than I need, and less guns than I want." -- Phil Graam -- -- If you don't like my opinions, that's just too damn bad. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:37 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: Wake Up Call! Message-ID: <1996Mar25.172352.22672@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: <4i2onb$6m3$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> <1996Mar16.150047.7105@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <1996Mar20.013738.20157@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4j688a$2th@anomaly.ideamation.com> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 17:23:52 GMT In article <4j688a$2th@anomaly.ideamation.com> kd1hz@anomaly.ideamation.com (M ichael P. Deignan) writes: >In article <1996Mar20.013738.20157@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, > Gary Coffman wrote: > >>We need an exam, to insure as much as possible that the applicant >>knows enough not to be a hazard, and to remove the excuse "I didn't >>know" from rules violators, but we don't need a Phd level test in >>order to allow access to a learning laboratory where we hope over a >>lifetime to *gain* Phd expertise. > >Okay, let's say for a second that I agree with you here. Why then: > > 1. Do I hear questions about "how do I build a dipole" ? > > 2. Why when a woman mentioned that her radio was "getting hot" > and someone suggested she check her SWR she replied "you know > I don't know anything about that stuff". > >While perhaps your statement above may be true, you certainly must agree >that the existing testing system does not ensure that people have a >sufficient level of technical expertise. Nor can any reasonable entry exam system meet that criteria 100%. Surely you know people who got through school simply by answering present every day, blindly following directions, turning the crank, but not having the slightest clue what any of it *meant*, and no curiosity to find out what it all meant. It's no different here. We try to screen the wheat from the chaff, but no screen is perfect, there is always some amount of chaff that gets through, and if we aren't careful, some amount of wheat that is lost. We have to choose our screens with care to achieve a reasonable balance. IMHO we can tolerate some chaff, it's just filler and doesn't do any real harm, but we can't afford to lose much of the wheat because it has real value. So I'd tend to set the screens a bit looser rather than tighter in order to capture as much wheat as I can. >Okay, granted that perhaps the two examples I mentioned are the exceptions >to the rules. But I can turn on my radio almost any day and hear the same >type of questions, even from some people who have been licensed for years. >This would tend to contradict your last statement regarding a lifetime >learning process. As I noted above, some can turn the crank, but they don't know why it works, and they aren't curious enough to find out. The drive to learn, the drive to know "why", is an internal drive. We can't impose it from the outside, we can only cherish and feed it when we find it. There's no test for it except observation post hoc. >I don't profess to know everything about electronics and RF, but at least >I have a copy of my ARRL Handbook around so when the time comes to build a >dipole, I can easily look up the formula that I once knew for my test and >have long since forgotten. So having the question on the test served no lasting purpose did it? Except maybe to make you aware that such a formula might exist. That's one reason I've advocated an open (reference) book exam. It shows the applicant knows how to *find out* what he needs to know when faced with a task requiring that knowledge. That's of much greater lasting value than regurgitating some numbers from turning the crank on a memorized formula that will soon be forgotten. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:39 1996 From: dfinn@nando.net (Dan Finn) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy Subject: Re: Wake Up Call! Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 06:15:33 GMT Message-ID: <4j43af$6kr@castle.nando.net> References: <4i2onb$6m3$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> <1996Mar12.163622.16132@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <1996Mar16.150047.7105@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) said: (cut) >Following Sturgeon's Law, we can only expect a small percentage of a >group to be the ones pioneering and leading the pack. Who wants to be led? Do you consider yourself to be a ham radio Leader? Most amateurs I know are rather independent and do not require or desire a technical or political leader. >There's no really >good a priori test to separate the wheat from the chaff First you must define 'wheat' and 'chaff'. Presumably Coffman is wheat and all beepers are suspect of being chaff. > certainly not a >beeping test. Indeed. >The best we can do is find out who has the creativity and >imagination to explore post hoc. What we don't want to do is turn off >potential members of the group via irrelevant hazing or by fostering >a perception of the service as backward. Translation: Treat degreed electrical engineers with ultimate respect or risk losing their participation in this hobby (service). If they do not like code, then give in to their demands. Otherwise they will not participate (gee whiz). Anyone who has enough real interest in Radio will do what it takes to participate. A 13wpm requirement is really going to cause a 'natural' to take the wrong turn on and miss out on what he could have been? (Ham Radio leader or something?) Don't worry....some natural who also is a beeper will gladly take his/her place (or do you believe that 'natural radio talent' and beepers are oymorons?) >There are a few engineers who are hams, and who beep furiously, but >when you pin them down, they say that they do it to get away from >the complexities that they face in their jobs. In other words, it >serves as mind pablum, like watching TV. That's not the sort of >engineer we want Alright Coffman, who is "we"...is "we" "you"? Are you defining what "we"want? I am electrical engineer, beeper, a target of the Coffman filter. Such is the way we are led by the the pioneer, the leader of the pack, the 'wheat' (not the chaff). >or need to open up the upper bands. We want people >so totally enamored of technology that they can't get enough of it >at work where their free rein is limited by the need to meet deadlines >and project milestones. Spare us... >That sort of person isn't interested in the >mundane, the old, the way grandpappy did it, sort of amateur radio >found primarily among the beepers. Somehow I'm still a hell of a lot more impressed by grandpappy beeper, who brought us to where we are today, technically. Along comes you who talks about what "can" be accomplished in the future...if only we didn't beep. But no accomplishments yet. >If I had my way, the code test free class would be Extra, the group >who should know enough to realize beeping doesn't matter, and leave >beeping to the lesser mortals who don't know any better. Let Gary lead the way to immortailty. >(How's that >for inflamatory?) Is it the best you can do? From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:40 1996 From: David Moss Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,aus.electronics,aus.radio.amateur.misc,sci.electronics.repair Subject: Wanted Traegar SSB5 service manual Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 08:49:43 +1100 Message-ID: <315B0977.1CFB@sna.dec.com> Hello, I'm looking for a circuit schematic or service manual for a Traegar SSB5 'portable' HF SSB transceiver. This is a product of the early 70's (based on the date codes of the chips in it) If anyone has any suggestions, please also copy me on moss@sna.mts.dec.com, because I seem to lose frequent news messages. thanks From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:40 1996 From: hardwick@ins.co.nz (Tom Hardwick) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: weather fax software Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 09:59:01 GMT Message-ID: <4jj0l9$gjk@celebrian.otago.ac.nz> Hi. I am looking for software for receiving shortwave weather fax pictures. Can anyone tell me if there is any on the net if you can help please send email to hardwick@ins.co.nz 73s tom zl4trh From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:42 1996 Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,alt.radio.pirate,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,uk.radio.amateur From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: Weird Radio Problem Message-ID: <1996Mar23.142115.8973@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: <314D9822.371D@vertex.ucls.uchicago.edu> Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 14:21:15 GMT In article <314D9822.371D@vertex.ucls.uchicago.edu> Isaac Kohn writes: >Michael J Wooding wrote: >> In article <4idjm1$f0c@madeline.INS.CWRU.Edu>, David Mark >> writes >> >What's happening is your radio is probably tuned to an FM station >> >near the upper end of the band (around 107-108mhz) and you're >> >probably under a flight path. When a plane is nearby (there's >> >that word again) and the pilot transmits on one of the lower >> >airline frequencies, your radio's less than discriminating tuner >> >picks it up.There is a small, minor detail: Air transmissions were AM, las t time I >checked! How does an FM receiver with poor-selectivity receive AM >transmissions??? Remember that the poor selectivity is in the receiver front end, allowing the image signal into the receiver. This doesn't have anything to do with IF selectivity. Now as to how an FM receiver can demodulate AM, if the receiver uses a discriminator, it will happily demodulate AM too unless the signal is strong enough to have it's amplitude variations stripped off by the limiter stage. If the receiver uses a ratio detector, it won't have a limiter because a ratio detector is theoretically insensitive to AM variations. But if the ratio detector isn't perfectly balanced, it will still demodulate the AM signal too. So either of the popular types of FM detector can demodulate AM under the right conditions. One of those conditions is likely to exist in a cheaply made FM receiver using a whip antenna. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:43 1996 From: ac224@detroit.freenet.org (Jim Harvey) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Weird Radio Problem Date: 23 Mar 1996 00:26:27 GMT Message-ID: <4ivgfj$l3a@detroit.freenet.org> References: <4imjob$46g@ray.atw.fullfeed.com> Reply-To: ac224@detroit.freenet.org (Jim Harvey) In a previous article, bigd@mail.atw.fullfeed.com (Dennis Nuetzel) says: > >>There is a small, minor detail: Air transmissions were AM, last time I >>checked! How does an FM receiver with poor-selectivity receive AM >>transmissions??? > > If close enough, it will. I have picked up CB radio transmissions (Also >AM) on a nearby FM reciever. > and on the telephone and on the VCR and on the Television and on the Stereo and on the clock radio..... -- Jim Harvey - WB8NBS - 18538 Inkster - Redford, Mich. 48240 Amiga Person ac224@detroit.freenet.org | James.B.Harvey@x400gw.ameritech.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:44 1996 From: jackl@pinetree.microserve.com (WB3U) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: What is this thing?? Date: Fri, 29 Mar 96 19:00:06 GMT Message-ID: <4jhcc2$f5n@crash.microserve.net> References: <4jf3lu$sls@freenet-news.carleton.ca> ag381@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Herb Dieben) wrote: >Could it be an inductor? May be but I measure an infinite resistance >across.A capacitor? What is this thing that kills my signaL? Is there DC on either end? A shorted turn or short to ground in the second stage could cause the symptoms you're describing, even if the unknown part is good. 73, Jack WB3U From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:45 1996 From: ag381@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Herb Dieben) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: What is this thing?? Date: 28 Mar 1996 22:26:06 GMT Message-ID: <4jf3lu$sls@freenet-news.carleton.ca> Reply-To: ag381@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Herb Dieben) I am repairing an Astro Communications Labs frontend for VHF.Thisunit was handcrafted in 1973 and a fine piece believe me.Except it does not work. At the output of the plugin is an IF strip with the *last* 2 tuned circuits coupled by what looks very much like an old 1\4 watt resistor.At one end of this thing there is a good signal, at the other (which is the output) there is nothing.This thing is banded as follows;left red, center purple right white and far right silver. Apart from the fact that one would not normally use resistive coupling between two tuned circuits I think it is not a resistor because the color code would result in a ridiculous value.Could it be an inductor?May be but I measure an infinite resistance across.A capacitor? What is this thing that kills my signaL? Thanks,Herb. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:46 1996 From: byrnes@fc.hp.com (John Byrnes) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Whats wrong with my FT-11R? Date: 25 Mar 1996 17:31:17 GMT Message-ID: <4j6l95$ivp@fcnews.fc.hp.com> References: <4j57ee$rmc@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Reply-To: byrnes@fc.hp.com Stanley Lalli (stanl@primenet.com) wrote: > Recently my FT-11R stoped working. It turns on... > I know a lot of you know what this could be(I mean what chip it is), I > don't want to pay tons of money to have it fixed. I want to try to fix it > myself. You're dreaming Stanley! The insides of that radio is all miniature surface mount components. There's nothing in there you could possibly repair without *very* advanced equipment. Consider... I opened mine last month with the intent of changing a resistor, fully confident that the resources of Hewlett-Packard would be more than enough (eg. anti-static tech station w/ microscope, micro-solder, etc. and an engineer who does this kinda stuff for a living). To our surprise, the standard size resistor in the radio was TWO or THREE sizes *smaller* than the smallest resistor HP uses! That size isn't even approved for new designs because our auto-place machines can't place them! The other components are of similar scale. So unless you have resources at your command that exceed Hewlett-Packard's, you're gonna need to have someone else repair it. > Someone PLEASE, HEEAAALLLLLLLLPPPP MMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!! YAESU USA 17210 Edwards Road Cerritos, CA 90703 USA (310) 404-2700 John KB0UNC From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:47 1996 From: Stanley Lalli Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Whats wrong with my FT-11R? Date: 24 Mar 1996 21:29:02 -0700 Message-ID: <4j57ee$rmc@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Recently my FT-11R stoped working. It turns on, memory, display, beeps...all work. If I try to key, the signal meter goes up, but the transmit light doesn't come on. There is NO signal output. The receiver is out too. You can open the squelch and there is static, but it WILL NOT receive any signals. I know a lot of you know what this could be(I mean what chip it is), I don't want to pay tons of money to have it fixed. I want to try to fix it myself. Someone PLEASE, HEEAAALLLLLLLLPPPP MMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!! Lost, and radioless, Stanley Lalli From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:48 1996 From: mitch@primenet.com (mlmitchell) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Whats wrong with my FT-11R? Date: 26 Mar 1996 10:58:01 -0700 Message-ID: <31582120.11612026@news.primenet.com> References: <4j57ee$rmc@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Reply-To: mitch@primenet.com Stanley Lalli wrote: >Recently my FT-11R stoped working. It turns on, memory, display, >beeps...all work. If I try to key, the signal meter goes up, but the >transmit light doesn't come on. There is NO signal output. The receiver >is out too. You can open the squelch and there is static, but it WILL NOT >receive any signals. > >I know a lot of you know what this could be(I mean what chip it is), I >don't want to pay tons of money to have it fixed. I want to try to fix it >myself. > >Someone PLEASE, HEEAAALLLLLLLLPPPP MMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!! > >Lost, and radioless, > >Stanley Lalli Stanley, It would be in your best interest and wallet, to send your FT11R back to Yaesu and let them repair it. They have the equipment, parts and knowledge to do this. 73 Bill N0EVG From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:48 1996 From: dcowey@cyberia.com (gudmundur) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Where are you? N3GJW / WB3CIA / Tom Date: 30 Mar 1996 03:17:28 GMT Message-ID: <4ji948$jbp@crash.microserve.net> Trying to locate Thomas W. Emig. N3GJW / WB3CIA. Formerly of Dallastown Pa. but moved a few years back. Tom, I still have the chickenhawk book from Vietnam. Would like to get it back to you. Don Cowey KD3SH From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:49 1996 From: achkar@MicroNet.fr (Malezet Jean-Pierre F6FLV) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Where to download a interresting ham software Date: 24 Mar 1996 11:41:39 GMT Message-ID: <4j3cdj$shp@chleuasme.francenet.fr> Reply-To: malezet@MicroNet.fr I would like to download my software (about CWMS) on a ftp.Host. I try few time but the host denied the autorisation to download it. Can someone can help me : give me a permissive ham host ? TKS, Jean-Pierre, F6FLV@F6KRK.FRPA.FRA.EU 73 QRO From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:50 1996 From: Hans K0HB <71111.260@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Who knows mail-servers with hot info on contests, awards, special callsigns? Tnx. Date: 25 Mar 1996 15:17:07 GMT Message-ID: <4j6ddj$30t$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> References: There is a good reflector called "cq-contest". To subscribe, send an e-mail to: cq-contest-REQUEST@tgv.com In the text of the message put the single word "SUBSCRIBE" without the quotation marks. -- --73, de Hans K0HB --Ideas are like children. There are none so wonderful as your own. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:51 1996 From: tracker866@aol.com (Tracker866) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: World Class Foxhunt coming to California Date: 23 Mar 1996 18:10:31 -0500 Message-ID: <4j20d7$3pf@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <4iq4it$49h@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: tracker866@aol.com (Tracker866) VHF/UHF CONFERENCE FOXHUNT INCLUDES TEAM COMPETITION In a European/Asian foxhunt, every person competes for medals as an individual. There are also prizes for the best aggregate score of competitors from various districts and countries. Similarly, there will be team awards at the VHF/UHF Conference foxhunt in southern California on May 5. (See my previous message for the detailed hunt announcement.) When you register at the Conference for the foxhunt, you may declare yourself to be a member of a team representing your club, city, family, etc. Each team may have a minimum of 3 and a maximum of 5 members. Each entrant may be on only one team. (Or he/she may choose to not be on any team.) If a club/group/city has more than five hunters, they must split them up into more than one team. For instance, if six Orange County RACES members want to team up, they could form "RACES Red Team" and "RACES Blue Team." Remember, hunters are competing for cash prizes as a individuals. Therefore, team members may not help one another on the course in any way. Any observed collaboration will result in disqualification, as it is in the IARU foxhunting championships. Age divisions apply only to individuals, not to teams. A team may include members in more than one age division. Team awards will be determined by the best three scores of the team members. Just as in the individual competition, scoring is first by number of foxes found and second by time. For example, assume the results for two teams are as follows: RED TEAM | BLUE TEAM Member Foxes Time | Member Foxes Time A 6 1:55:34 | X 6 1:35:54 B 5 1:58:04 | Y 5 1:57:14 C 3 1:15:45 | Z 6 1:51:50 D 2 1:59:03 | E 1 0:55:33 | The best three performances from each team are compared. Red team's three best hunters found 14 foxes in 309 minutes while Blue team found 17 foxes in 324 minutes. Blue team wins over Red because it found most foxes. If Red Team had also found 17 foxes in its 309 minutes total time, Red would have won for being faster. So, hunters from RACES, San Gabriel Valley, Santa Barbara, Fullerton club, Downey Club, Catalina club and others, here's your challenge: How many teams will you be sending? 73 de Joe Moell K0OV Internet: Homingin@aol.com Compuserve: 75236.2165 Packet: K0OV@WB6YMH.#SOCA.CA.USA From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:52 1996 From: donaldt@ipars.sds.com (Donald Theriault) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: WTB KENWOOD PROGRAMER Date: 26 Mar 1996 20:31:11 GMT Message-ID: <4j9k6f$e4v@news2.cts.com> LOOKING FOR KPT-20 OLDER KENWOOD PROGRAMER FOR THE 701/801/720/820 SERIES RADIOS WILL PAY CASH PLEASE E-MAIL ME OR CALL DONALDT@SDS.COM 619-425-9659 From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:53 1996 From: michael.mcamis@valley.net Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: XMLog Log/Packet freeware has moved. Date: 25 Mar 1996 02:09:16 GMT Message-ID: <4j4v8c$3t3@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Disappointed with your commercial/shareware logging or packet software for Windows? Try XMLog, freeware that's available on the Internet. XMLog provides a flexible set of coordinated logging and packet features. If you're using a Web browser, start at Boston Amateur Radio Club's home page (http://www.acs.oakland.edu/barc.html), go to the section "BARC FTP archives" and pick "FTP Archive", then pick "Software Archives/PC Files". Select the "logging" directory and fetch xmlog123.zip For ftp users, sign on to ftp.barc.org with the userid of anonymous and a password of guest. Move to the pub3/hamradio/dos/logging directory and get xmlog123.zip XMLog is now also available from ftp.funet.fi in Finland. Sign on with a userid of anonymous and supply your e-mail address as the password. Move to the directory pub/ham/hf-log and get xmlog123.zip The archives can be busy at times, don't give up if you can't sign on right away. Let me know if you: - want more info - can't fetch the file - want diskettes instead Have fun... Mike/WA3ECT michael_mcamis@valley.net (internet) WA3ECT @ W1ET.NH (packet) From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:54 1996 From: Gary Stone Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: XV1A ?? Date: 26 Mar 1996 23:40:29 GMT Message-ID: <4j9v9d$il6@venus.texoma.com> I worked a (probably) slim on 20 yesterday and wondered if anyone has more info. The station was signing XV1A and claimed to be in Vietnam with a QSL manager of UA0FM (whom I believe is also 3W5FM ?) From Texas, the station was about 55 beaming toward Vietnam and about 15 - 20 db over S-9 when beaming toward Russia! This was at 0002 UTC on 3-26 UTC. There was a list taker (AC6BO) and this was on 14.203. It sounds like one not to waste a QSL on, but anyone have more info? 73 de N5PHT, Gary -- /\__/\ Gary and Karen Stone (Gary N5PHT) 0 0 E-Mail: garystone@texoma.com @ or karenstone@texoma.com (_/\_) Http://home.texoma.com/personal/garystone ~~ From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:57 1996 From: adell@planet.net ( Steve - KF2TI) Landing, NJ Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: XV1A ?? Date: 27 Mar 1996 20:47:40 GMT Message-ID: <4jc9hd$n7u@jupiter.planet.net> References: <4j9v9d$il6@venus.texoma.com> > Gary Stone writes: > I worked a (probably) slim on 20 yesterday and wondered if anyone has > more info. The station was signing XV1A and claimed to be in Vietnam > with a QSL manager of UA0FM (whom I believe is also 3W5FM ?) From Texas, > the station was about 55 beaming toward Vietnam and about 15 - 20 db over > S-9 when beaming toward Russia! This was at 0002 UTC on 3-26 UTC. There > was a list taker (AC6BO) and this was on 14.203. > > It sounds like one not to waste a QSL on, but anyone have more info? > > 73 de N5PHT, > > Gary > > > > -- > > /\__/\ Gary and Karen Stone (Gary N5PHT) > 0 0 E-Mail: garystone@texoma.com > @ or karenstone@texoma.com > (_/\_) Http://home.texoma.com/personal/garystone > ~~ > > > >>>> Howdy Gary...save the card and the $$$ definitely a slim. In listening to th e converstaion several nights ago, he even admitted that it was great fun but, have to hand it to peter, he can handle the pile-ups. too bad he doesn't get some real dx pedition going, he'd be ok 73, steve king of all dx and then some From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:39:58 1996 From: dqueen@nnl.net (David E. Queen) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: yeasu ft-11 repair Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 07:49:46 GMT Message-ID: <313a769f.4602044@news.uni-stuttgart.de> Reply-To: dqueen@nnl.net I have need of repairing my FT-11R due to a very stupid act on my account. They are not water proof.... From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:09:16 1996 From: dreambig@ix.netcom.com(LARRY PIKE ) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Chgo Area Ham Classes - Nov thru Extra Date: 26 Mar 1996 23:56:35 GMT Message-ID: <4ja07j$68m@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> My idea is simply this -- ham radio classes see a lot of drop-outs because the classes go on too darn long! People have better things to do with their lives than attend 6 to 12 weeks of ham radio classes. I am looking for students and sponsors for one-day license workshops. If you know anyone interested in getting their Novice ticket or upgrading to Technician, General, Advanced or Extra, please have them call me. I will teach a one-day theory seminar & workshop for any license level -- Novice through Extra. I've taught ham radio to about 300 people during the past 10 years from Novice through Extra and always enjoy the excitement in the faces in front of me. What do I need to make this happen? I am looking for a club that wants to sponsor the workshops. The sponsoring club will: 1) provide a suitable room for an all-day seminar and 2) get students lined up for the classes. What will the club get in return for their effort? Classes are a great source of new members. Classes can also be an income producer if the club wants to charge for them. Keep the money as a donation to the club or let that money pay for a one-year club membership for the new ham. My services are free to the club and the students. Please call me if.... * Your club or repeater group is interested in sponsoring a workshop * You or someone you know is interested in a one-day Upgrade Workshop * You know someone interested in a one-day Novice Workshop 73 de WD9HCR Larry Pike (847) 776-3004 dreambig@ix.netcom.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:09:17 1996 From: dcowey@cyberia.com (gudmundur) Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Radio Shack-You've got questions?-We've got BLANK STARES! Date: 27 Mar 1996 03:52:40 GMT Message-ID: <4jae28$fg8@crash.microserve.net> References: <4j1egi$enp@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> In article <4j1egi$enp@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com>, au@ix.netcom.co says... > >Looking for typical Radio Shack stories to add to this thread. > >One of our local Radio Shack stores has had several good people who >seemed to know what they were doing. But in typical Radio Shack >fashion managed to let them go and hire persons who seem to know >nothing about electronics. I guess at 4.75 per hour and 1 percent >commission you can't knowledgeable persons. > >Usually when I HAVE to buy at the Shack, I bypass the salesman by >saying "I know what I'm looking for!" and strictly use them for a >cashier! > >WAKE UP TANDY! Pay your persons a couple of dollars more an hour and >employees will stay! > > How many times I have been in a radio shack and the customer says "I need 20ufd at 25volts and all you have are 50 volt units. Can I use them? Where upon Mr. shack replies-"No! it will ruin your whatever"". I think I have helped more customers find correct information in radio shack than the employees have. Hey R.S., Want a good information manager? I am very expensive and worth it! You got questions? I got information! If I don't have it, at least I know how to find it! 73 KD3SH From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:09:18 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: ITT Radio Handbook Message-ID: From: frederick.mckenzie-1@kmail.ksc.nasa.gov (Fred McKenzie) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 18:21:50 -0500 References: <4j6ans$nv@rc1.vub.ac.be> In article <4j6ans$nv@rc1.vub.ac.be>, mlacroix@vub.ac.be (Lacroix Marc) wrote: > I had a handbook in the past : > Radio Engineer Handbook, published by ITT Corporation (in the 1970-75) ... Marc- I'm holding in my hand a copy of REFERENCE DATA FOR RADIO ENGINEERS, Fifth Edition. It was Copyright in 1968 by Howard W. Sams & Co., Inc., a subsidiary of International Telephone and Telegraph Corporation. I don't know if a newer edition gets a newer number or not. This one has Library of Congress Catalog Number: 43-14665. It was checked out from the Kennedy Space Center Library, which assigned it numbers TK6552, R332, 1968. Perhaps these numbers mean something to a Librarian. I can't find an ISBN number. Maybe the ISBN system hadn't been implemented in 1968. I received an advertisement for a new edition recently, but didn't keep it. 73, Fred, K4DII From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:09:19 1996 From: radiomatt@aol.com (Radiomatt) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment Subject: Re: ARRL insurance Date: 28 Mar 1996 01:44:39 -0500 Message-ID: <4jdcgn$1f0@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: Reply-To: radiomatt@aol.com (Radiomatt) I had the insurance from time to time; three or four years, then off for a couple, and then back on again. Last winter a water pipe froze and burst inundating my radios. The tube stuff stood up fairly well, but my prize pair of HRO-500 and matching HRO-600 got pretty much destroyed. The 500 is still fixable, so I did not ask for replacement (or $), but the 600 is REAL rare; I had it appraised; they said it was a total loss, and the Wohlers Company made good for $2500. (The pair, in one cabinet, had been insured at $3100, out of total insured ham shack of about $11K). No complaints here. They handled the claim professionally and rapidly once the appraisal came in --that took 4 mos, but not their problem. Go for it From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:09:20 1996 From: roland.stiner@hobbs.com (ROLAND STINER) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: HAM RADIO IS A CALLING Message-ID: <8BD90B7.00290047A8.uuout@hobbs.com> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 96 03:03:00 -0500 Distribution: world Reply-To: roland.stiner@hobbs.com (ROLAND STINER) To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us Subject: HAM RADIO IS A CALLING G>Many non-hams are still surprised to learn that they could get an amateur >license without a Morse test. This is a failure of marketing. Many others, Funny, when I entered the hobby, (I have been licensed since 1983) if you had an interest in RADIO per se, YOU found ham radio, not the other way around. My point is that there is no need for marketing if the interest is there. If it is not, there is no amount of marketing you can do to win a person over. In other words, the people will come if they want to-ham radio is not a new "flavor" of ice cream-it's a calling. --- OLX 1.53 --------------> 73, de NK2U <---------------- * Origin: CyberNet BBS Lyndhurst, NJ (1:2604/151) .....oooooOOOOOo http://www.intac.com/~cono __,-----. ---+_________#_ The Roy Hobbs BBS sysop@hobbs.com |________| |__|___________} Node 1: 201-641-7307 ooooo oo ~ ooO-O-O-O == oo\ Node 2: 201-641-3126 From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:09:21 1996 From: Chris.Boone@106-4267.woodybbs.com (Chris Boone) Date: 28 Mar 96 06:43:04 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: GE Master II queries Message-ID: <3d0_9603281137@woodybbs.com> 5*** Quoting Christopher K Greenhalgh to All dated 03-26-96 *** > > I got my hands on a GE Master II UHF rig with remote console, > interface, > cable, external speaker, and mic...basically complete. > > I am wanting to put it on 9600 baud packet, and am trying to gather any > and all information about it. IE; watts, amp draw, pin out of console > and > mic, where to get crystals, value, and just ANY other info you may > would > be appreciated. A schematic for this rig would probably bring tears to > my eyes. :) > > Thanks much, & take care. > Best thing to do is trade the rig for a GE MSTR EXEC II...the MSTR II doesnt mod easily for 9600....the EXEC II does....(you have to FM the TX and the EXEC II radios are easier to mod to direct FM...the MSTR IIs will screw up the freq stability if you try to direct FM it)..... I may have a UHF MSTR EXEC II I would be willing to part with unless you can find someone closer to you to trade with... Chris WB5ITT cboone@earthlink.net <-new email address -- |Fidonet: Chris Boone 1:106/4267 |Internet: Chris.Boone@106-4267.woodybbs.com | | Standard disclaimer: The views of this user are strictly his own. From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:09:22 1996 From: byrnes@fc.hp.com (John Byrnes) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Whats wrong with my FT-11R? Date: 28 Mar 1996 17:38:16 GMT Message-ID: <4jeiq8$c4g@fcnews.fc.hp.com> References: <4j57ee$rmc@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <4j6l95$ivp@fcnews.fc.hp.com> <1996Mar28.161441.6300@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: byrnes@fc.hp.com Gary Coffman (gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us) wrote: > In article <4j6l95$ivp@fcnews.fc.hp.com> byrnes@fc.hp.com writes: > >Stanley Lalli (stanl@primenet.com) wrote: > >> Recently my FT-11R stoped working. It turns on... > > > >You're dreaming Stanley! > > > >The insides of that radio is all miniature surface mount components. > >There's nothing in there you could possibly repair without *very* > >advanced equipment. Consider... > > > I believe that's too extreme, John. I've been working on tiny SMD > stuff like this for a few years now (Sony Broadcast's field cameras > also use these smaller parts). I know that the parts look like grains > of salt, but you can successfully replace them without overly elaborate > tooling. .... Gary, I'm impressed. Not only by your makeshift equipment and your boldness in going in there, but by your eyesight! You don't mention any sort of magnifying glass. Don't you go blind? One more thing for people who may emulate your approach, I suggest taking some anti-static precautions. John From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:09:23 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Problem with Indoor HF system From: sysop@pyromania.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Mar 96 19:14:00 CST Sorry I can not help...please send me info on how you solve this problem when you do. sysop@pyromania.com AKA KE4UGV From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:09:24 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: If you don't like it!...(Was: @!#$, From: sysop@pyromania.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 28 Mar 96 19:22:00 CST >John Q. Customer wrote: >> >> And John Q. Customer IS my real name, jackoff. >Actually ... >finger jonejonz@atl.mindspring.com >[atl.mindspring.com] >Login name: jonejonz In real life: Scott Hogg >Directory: /u3/jonejonz Shell: /usr/bin/false Does this mean the guys real name is Scott Hogg? If so......I think you got him this time! : ) From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:09:25 1996 From: mouw@innet.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Maggiore Repeaters??? Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 20:14:08 Message-ID: References: <4j3u2a$oc6@hecate.umd.edu> In article <4j3u2a$oc6@hecate.umd.edu> debbiew@csc.umd.edu (Williams - Debbie) writes: >From: debbiew@csc.umd.edu (Williams - Debbie) >Subject: Maggiore Repeaters??? >Date: 24 Mar 1996 16:42:50 GMT >My club is considering a Maggiore repeater. We're interested in >the opinions of those who have used Maggiore repeaters (especially >in an unheated, un-air conditioned environment). Please post your >comments or send e-mail to debbiew@umd5.umd.edu >Thanks for taking the time to share your views! >73s >Debbie, N5SKA I tried to convinve the local group in Dade City Fl to go the Maggiore route and we ended up with a piece of fecal matter from Yaesu. Go with your heart. John KD4GIK From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:09:25 1996 From: wa4pgm@moonstar.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: New web page Date: Thu, 28 Mar 96 20:40:12 EDT Message-ID: http://www.moonstar.com/~/wa4pgm/welcome/ check it out, looking for ideas and more links, stories, or anything else you might like to add. 73 Kyle From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:09:27 1996 From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy Subject: Re: Ham Fest or Porn Fest? Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 06:26:39 -0500 Message-ID: <315BC8EF.5CA2@ccsnet.com> References: <4j2jp7$9eg@yrkpa.kias.com> <1996Mar24.203207.17099@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4j5sav$sq4@lehi.kuentos.guam.net> Jim Kehler wrote: > : I don't particularly like the image that this creates for amateur > : radio, but it is unfortunately a reality. It shows that a mostly > : male, mostly middle aged, mostly white group of asocial loners has > : a rather large subset who like to look at dirty pictures. I'm not > : sure that this should be hidden from potential amateurs. Perhaps the > : young should be aware of the type of people with which they are > : planning to associate. There are many hams that fit the above description but there are also many that are just old fat white and boring. But I do not think X rated CDROMS ought to be banned from hamfests. That is the closeest many hams will ever get to a naked female. > poetic way to describe amateurs: 'mostly male, mostly middle aged, > mostly white group of asocial loners'. And all these years I have > been told that ham radio consisted of the three basic groups: > freaks, jerks, and weirdos........ Those groups are very well represented in ham radio. #================#=====================================================# | Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | | Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | | K1OIK | If you sit on the fence, it is a pain in the butt | #================#=====================================================# | k1oik@ccsnet.com MAC is 5% of the market | #======================================================================# Get a GIF of K1OIK by telnet://ccsnet.com and go to FREE downloads for bf1pres.gif (hams never had such excitment!) From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:09:28 1996 From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Ham Fest or Porn Fest? Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 06:28:05 -0500 Message-ID: <315BC945.44A5@ccsnet.com> References: <8BD61AF.00290046EB.uuout@hobbs.com> <3156CDCD.1A5D@sci.mus.mn.us> Chuck Penson wrote: > Good point. A couple of the local fests around here let kids under 16 in > free. I'd like to see more of that. It's a good way to get kids > interested. There is NO way to get kids interested in ham radio. #================#=====================================================# | Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | | Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | | K1OIK | If you sit on the fence, it is a pain in the butt | #================#=====================================================# | k1oik@ccsnet.com MAC is 5% of the market | #======================================================================# Get a GIF of K1OIK by telnet://ccsnet.com and go to FREE downloads for bf1pres.gif (hams never had such excitment!) From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:09:29 1996 From: landisj@nad.com (Joe Landis - Systems & Network Mgr) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: No CQ's On 75 Meters ?? Message-ID: <1996Mar29.113610.496@nad.com> Date: 29 Mar 96 11:36:09 EST References: <4jeu7r$3j2@crash.microserve.net> Distribution: world In article <4jeu7r$3j2@crash.microserve.net>, jackl@pinetree.microserve.com (W B3U) writes: > Two different people recently told me on the air that it's unusual to > call CQ on 75 meters. They also said that a number of hams on the > band consider a CQ to be bad operating practice, although they didn't > know why. > Can someone explain this to me? > 73, > Jack WB3U Very simple. All 75M freqs. are owned by nets and other groups that have not turned the tuning knob on their rigs for the past 30 years. 73! Joe - AA3GN -- Joe Landis - Systems and Network Manager - North American Drager - Telford, PA landisj@nad.com ..speaking only for myself, of course.. From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:09:32 1996 From: nx7u@primenet.com (Scott Townley) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: ITT Radio Handbook Date: 29 Mar 1996 12:10:02 -0700 Message-ID: <4jhcia$c9@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <4j6ans$nv@rc1.vub.ac.be> In article , frederick.mckenzie-1@kmail.ksc.nasa.gov (Fred McKenzie) wrote: >In article <4j6ans$nv@rc1.vub.ac.be>, mlacroix@vub.ac.be (Lacroix Marc) wrote: >> I had a handbook in the past : >> Radio Engineer Handbook, published by ITT Corporation (in the 1970-75) ... > >Marc- > >I'm holding in my hand a copy of REFERENCE DATA FOR RADIO ENGINEERS, Fifth >Edition. It was Copyright in 1968 by Howard W. Sams & Co., Inc., a >subsidiary of International Telephone and Telegraph Corporation. > >I don't know if a newer edition gets a newer number or not. This one has >Library of Congress Catalog Number: 43-14665. It was checked out from >the Kennedy Space Center Library, which assigned it numbers TK6552, R332, >1968. Perhaps these numbers mean something to a Librarian. > >I can't find an ISBN number. Maybe the ISBN system hadn't been >implemented in 1968. > >I received an advertisement for a new edition recently, but didn't keep it. > >73, Fred, K4DII REFERENCE DATA FOR RADIO ENGINEERS has been continually updated; now it's (I believe) to the 8th edition. The name's a bit longer now, too--it contains computers and other digitally-oriented words now. Still published by Sams, but I don't know where (or if) IT&T fits in anymore. It's current print, any larger bookstore should be able to order it for you no problem. It's about $60 if I remember right. Scott Townley nx7u@primenet.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:09:33 1996 From: ham@w3eax.umd.edu (Scott Rosenfeld NF3I) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Differences between HF and VHF (was: HF sucks) Date: 29 Mar 1996 13:39:26 GMT Message-ID: <4jgp6e$hrv@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> What we know as VHF FM is a generally localized form of communications. High-quality, relatively short-haul communications between a number of people on a common channel. These people are often well-known to each other - "I talk to them EVERY DAY!" And I do, indeed, have a group of people I talk to on my way to and from work, and there is a good deal of camaraderie as we know each other pretty well. We're pretty "loose." HF is very, very different. If you ride on a bus, and meet someone for the first time, do you say, "Hey, can you believe what that flaming jerk &$*&T*@ did?!?" I don't think so. In your "clique" on the repeater, everyone would know what you were talking about. But to come off like that to a total stranger? No way! The difference is that while one may get to know people on VHF very quickly, getting to know them via HF requires 1) being on same band 2) being on same frequency 3) being on at same time i.e. having a schedule set up, like a 2-person sched or a net. I GUARANTEE you that the conversation carried on during scheduled QSOs is nothing like what people hear on HF most of the time. So why are these things hard to find? 1) HF is a big place - many more "new contacts" than scheduled contacts. 2) If propagation is poor (and it does vary) there may be someone on each end but no way for them to talk. 3) They're not if you know where to listen. Listen to any 80m NET where people know each other. They're MUCH more interesting than 2m contacts. And as for illnesses, well, a lot of older hams have their illnesses in common. Something to talk about, I guess. BTW, I have this occasional shooting pain in my left arm... In conclusion: Much of HF operation is done via CQ, which means meeting a continuous stream of "new people." What percentage of the time that someone answers your "XXXXX Listening" on a given repeater results in a reply from someone you DON'T know? Probably not even 40%, while on HF it may be close to 90%, maybe more! -- * Scott Rosenfeld NF3I Burtonsville, MD FM19 QRV 80-10/6/2/440 * *** VHF @ <25w, HF @ <5w *** Save a cake, pound BRASS instead *** * 138 cfd with dipoles * QRP-L #147 QRP ARCI #9054 DXCC/WAS/WAC * * 301-549-1022 h / 301-982-1015 w * 145.490- 147.225+ PL 156.7 * From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:09:35 1996 From: gsparks@ix.netcom.com(Glenn Sparks) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Eliminate CW from rigs.See if they sell! Date: 29 Mar 1996 15:24:29 GMT Message-ID: <4jgvbd$j9p@reader2.ix.netcom.com> References: <4ja4ro$b74@bingnet1.cc.binghamton.edu> Actually I think Heathkit sold boatloads of the Monoband HF rigs, SSB only, HW-12, HW-13, HW-14. I have the 40 and 80, but the 20's are hard to find. In <4ja4ro$b74@bingnet1.cc.binghamton.edu> br00595@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu (Homebrew) writes: > >How many HF rigs do you people think the manufactures could sell without >CW on them? Without filters? > > > >-- >- - + + + + + + - - Len > From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:09:36 1996 From: gsparks@ix.netcom.com(Glenn Sparks) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy Subject: Re: Ham Fest or Porn Fest? Date: 29 Mar 1996 15:29:23 GMT Message-ID: <4jgvkj$3fq@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> References: <4j2jp7$9eg@yrkpa.kias.com> <4ja0r9$djp@news.socketis.net> <1996Mar27.160812.2001@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4jc4jp$ksg@crash.microserve.net> In <4jc4jp$ksg@crash.microserve.net> jackl@pinetree.microserve.com (WB3U) writes: > > gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) wrote: > >>As evidenced by the current problems on HF, neither Morse tests nor >>technical tests are a cure for these problems. > >The fact that such problems exist does not support that assumption. >In fact, just the opposite is probably true, as the problems have >worsened with the weakening of code and technical testing. > >73, >Jack WB3U I have seldom heard a Ham with a call sign issued in the last 5 years behave this way, The most obnoxous have been Hams for 20+ years, I don't think the problem is with the new guys. KI5GY From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:09:37 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: griffin@jgfl1.allcon.com (Jens Goerke) Subject: Re: Need email add for Rev George at GQRP Message-ID: References: <4jgoht$hnc@madeline.INS.CWRU.Edu> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 16:46:49 GMT William J. Graham (dl278@cleveland.Freenet.Edu) wrote: > can someone provide the email add fro Rev George Dobbs > of GQRP? Me, too ;-) I need his address as well (my last Sprat didn't arrive). Have Fun, Jens, DB9LL -- Missing coffee error - operator halted. This message may not be distributed via the Microsoft Network. From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:09:38 1996 From: w1aw@arrl.org Newsgroups: rec.radio.info,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: ARLP013 Propagation de KT7H Date: 29 Mar 1996 16:57:20 -0500 Message-ID: <$arlp013.1996@arrl.org> SB PROP @ ARL $ARLP013 ARLP013 Propagation de KT7H ZCZC AP34 QST de W1AW Propagation Forecast Bulletin 13 ARLP013 From Tad Cook, KT7H Seattle, WA March 29, 1996 To all radio amateurs SB PROP ARL ARLP013 ARLP013 Propagation de KT7H Solar flux remains low. Last week's average solar flux was up only a couple of points from the previous week. Geomagnetic conditions have been unsettled, with several periods with a K index of four. The worst day was March 21 when the A index was 29 and the K index reached five. Don't expect any big changes. Recurrent coronal holes may cause disturbances between April 6-9 and 16-21. During this time expect brief active to minor storm periods at middle latitudes and brief active to major storm levels at higher latitudes. The listing in last week's bulletin of sunspot numbers and solar flux was correct, but the dates shown were from the previous week. Below is the same data but with the corrected dates for March 14 through 20. Sunspot Numbers for March 14 through 20 were 17, 15, 15, 12, 11, 11 and 0, with a mean of 11.6. 10.7 cm flux was 70.8, 70.4, 71, 70.6, 70.6, 69.9 and 69.3, with a mean of 70.4. Sunspot Numbers for March 21 through 27 were 15, 21, 24, 17, 17, 32 and 29, with a mean of 22.1. 10.7 cm flux was 70.4, 73.8, 72.1, 71.2, 72.5, 71.9 and 71.8, with a mean of 72. NNNN /EX From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:09:39 1996 From: CrACKeD Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: HF sucks! Date: 29 Mar 1996 17:33:02 -0700 Message-ID: References: <4jelum$6ls@uwm.edu> <4jelvr$6ls@uwm.edu> <199603282149.IAA10299@w3eax.umd.edu> > "more modern modes, such as voice?" > > Huh? I don't get it. Phone QSO's on HF can be much more insipid > and boring than CW QSOs. And besides, when you run into a total > stranger, do you express immediately your views on life? If you > talk to the same person 10 times on a repeater, that's familiarity. Well, it is true that some voice QSO's are boring, but I'm not one of those people who says "Hi, how's the weather" and then that's it. I use the voice bands (VHF/UHF) for more constructive things among people I know and during special events. Using a voice mode doesn't mean you have to "immediately express your views on life" either. > On HF, YOU rarely get to talk to the same person 10 times EVER unless > you've pre-planned it. What's your point? HF bites? I already knew that. _ ____________.--------. \`' __________|________| / [_(__] | | E-Mail: cracked@primenet.com .' .' Web Site: http://www.primenet.com/~cracked |____| FTP Site: ftp.primenet.com/users/c/cracked From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:09:40 1996 From: myers@West.Sun.COM (Dana Myers) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: DANG! his FM25 doesn't work, what to do? Date: 29 Mar 1996 18:03:47 GMT Message-ID: <4jh8m3$2qm@abyss.West.Sun.COM> References: In article , David Stockton wrote: > > Strange, isn't it? > > Despite massive crossposting, and clearly being noticed by a great >many people, no-one seems to have leaped in to help the poor fellow. > > Was it a wind-up? > Is there such a thing as an "FM25"? and if so, what is it? The FM-25 is a synthesized FM broadcast transmitter sold in kit form by Ramsey Electronics. Very popular for the micropower and pirate FM broadcasters. -- * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are mine and should * * (310) 348-6043 | not be interpreted or represented as * * Dana.Myers@West.Sun.Com | those of Sun Microsystems, Inc. * From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:09:41 1996 From: kjsmith@violin.aix.calpoly.edu (Kirk James Smith) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: HT Dual-Band Amp vs. Dual-Band Mobile Date: 29 Mar 1996 19:05:37 -0800 Message-ID: <4ji8e1$utb@violin.aix.calpoly.edu> References: <1996Mar23.154254.9719@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4j4gvp$783@ccnet2.ccnet.com> <1996Mar29.153931.10957@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> After reading late in this thread, I thought I'd jump in with my two cents. Ham rigs offer something the commercial rigs don't: Easy programming. When I'm traveling, I need to be able to punch in a repeater and use it. I've got an Icom IC-2700H as my current mobile rig, and while I think it's a piece of trash, it is convenient (I'd buy an Alinco if I had it to do over again). But... I'm also a fan of commercial performance. I've got a couple of Syntor's stashed away that I'm planning to add the "left-coast" control units to eventually. Still, they're pretty big, and won't likely end up in my car. I'll use them as base units. For mobiling around my county, I'm planning to purchase a couple of Motorola MaxTrac 300's (or GM300's). They're cheap ($500 new, less used), synthesized, scan, have PL, etc. They're also pretty small. Once I get some cash saved and mount these in my truck, the Icom will likely remain off most of the time. I hate it's intermod rejection (I call it my paging receiver....doesn't matter what frequency I'm on, I can hear pagers on most of them). The MaxTracs are fairly easy to repair, and provide good performance. I don't notice intermod problems with them, and they're simple to operate. But still...I do need the frequency agility of a ham rig now and again. Since I can't find a reasonable ham rig for performance, I'm stuck using both. I tend to avoid rock-bound rigs, since I change my mind too frequently to buy crystals. Also, being involved with public safety, I need a few more channels than the averae ham. I'm not sure this offers much of a solution to most (since it involves high dollars having multiple radios), but it works for me. -- Kirk J. Smith, KD6RCT, EMT-P | Biological Sciences Dept, Microbiology kjsmith@oboe.aix.calpoly.edu | California Polytechnic State University http://www.calpoly.edu/~kjsmith | San Luis Obispo, California, USA From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:09:43 1996 From: jwkelley@e4e.oac.uci.edu (James W. KELLEY) Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Radio Shack-You've got questions?-We've got BLANK STARES! Date: 29 Mar 1996 19:09:52 GMT Message-ID: <4jhci0$dhf@news.service.uci.edu> References: <4j1egi$enp@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> <4jae28$fg8@crash.microserve.net> I remember back in the seventies I was in a Radio Shack store looking at stereo speakers. The salesman showed me a system that had a power amp in each cabinet. He told me with great emphasis that each of those cabinets had over 10 thousand ohms. Wow that's a lot of ohms for your money! ;-) Jim KE6JPO From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:09:43 1996 From: ya156039@alumnet.yorku.ca (David Stock) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: No CQ's On 75 Meters ?? Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 19:30:42 GMT Message-ID: <4jhdmb$fo0@sunburst.ccs.yorku.ca> References: <4jeu7r$3j2@crash.microserve.net> jackl@pinetree.microserve.com (WB3U) wrote: >Two different people recently told me on the air that it's unusual to >call CQ on 75 meters. They also said that a number of hams on the >band consider a CQ to be bad operating practice, although they didn't >know why. >Can someone explain this to me? >73, >Jack WB3U It is naturally better to listen first. A CQ is wrong on CB and many recent amateurs from the chicken band are afraid of CQ. I think it is very wrong for operators with little experience to criticize others. Courtesy is the name of the day. Dave VE3DTN From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:09:45 1996 From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: ARO's suck Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 21:31:19 -0500 Message-ID: <315C9CF7.3B34@ccsnet.com> References: <9603252153.S152062467@clubhouse.email.net> <4j7r82$e33@B1FF.mindspring.com> sco@sco-inc.com wrote: > > clueless129@clubhouse.email.net wrote: > > >I must confess that at various times in my life I have toyed with > >the idea of becomming an amateur radio operator. > > Well you are NOT a ham ... good. You are not good enough to pass the > exams. But I am a ham and the author is correct, we suck. #================#=====================================================# | Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | | Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | | K1OIK | If you sit on the fence, it is a pain in the butt | #================#=====================================================# | k1oik@ccsnet.com MAC is 5% of the market | #======================================================================# Get a GIF of K1OIK by telnet://ccsnet.com and go to FREE downloads for bf1pres.gif (hams never had such excitment!) From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:09:45 1996 From: gsparks@ix.netcom.com(Glenn Sparks) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: No CQ's On 75 Meters ?? Date: 29 Mar 1996 22:25:35 GMT Message-ID: <4jho0v$86b@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> References: <4jeu7r$3j2@crash.microserve.net> <1996Mar29.193905.11952@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> In <1996Mar29.193905.11952@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) writes: From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:09:47 1996 From: Stephan M. Anderman Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: This Week in Amateur Radio #157 (for air through 4/5/96) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 96 22:57:58 -0500 Message-ID: Here is a summary of news items covered on edition #157 of "This Week in Amateur Radio", North America's satellite-delivered audio bulletin service, for the week ending 5-Apr: - 1. NASA Shortens Atlantis Mission, SAREX Contacts Cancelled 2. Amateur Claims TSS Experiment Not a Total Failure 3. CBC, Canadian Government Save Radio Canada International 4. AMSAT Phase 3-D Satellite Parts Delivered to Assembly Site 5. ARRL Drops Senior Discounts on Foreign QST Subscriptions 6. Hewlett-Packard Co-founder Dies in California at 83 7. Special Report: Telesat Canada's Anik E-1 Satellite Fails 8. Hubbard Suggests Combining Analog and Digital TV Signals 9. Weekly Propagation Forecast with George Bowen, N2LQS 10. "Amateur Radio Newsline" - Edition #972 from Los Angeles 11. FCC Institutes "Try Before You Study" Amateur Licenses 12. Upcoming Special Event Stations 13. "Gateway 160 Meter Net Report" with Vern Jackson, WA0RCR 14. Light Theory Debunked, Darksuckers Make More Sense 15. "The RAIN Dial-up" from Chicago - (FCC WARNING: Monday is April Fools' Day and prolonged exposure to some of these news items may be hazardous to your health.) - Funding for the program's transmission and production expense was provided this week by a grant from Dana Rodakis, AJ1R, of St. Petersburg, Florida, where listeners can hear "This Week in Amateur Radio" on the AJ1R repeater system on 51.84, 145.23, 147.285, 442.075, 443.625, and 443.95 MHz serving Florida's Central Gulf Coast. - "This Week in Amateur Radio" is a weekly amateur voice bulletin service, produced by Community Video Associates, Inc., a New York State not-for-profit corporation based in Albany, NY. The program is heard on the "Tech Talk Network" each Saturday at 8:00 PM (EST) on the Telesat Canada Anik E2 commercial communications satellite, transponder 18 (9B vertical), 5.8 MHz wideband analog audio subcarrier (4.06 GHz), located at 107.3 degrees west longitude in equatorial geosynchronous orbit. It's carried on VHF/UHF repeaters throughout North America and on 160 meters at 1860 kHz. Contact your local amateur radio club or repeater operator if "This Week in Amateur Radio" is not being heard in your area. - Production and transmission expenses are underwritten by donations from repeater operators, amateur radio clubs, and individuals. Satellite space and uplink services are provided by Skyvision, Incorporated as a service to the amateur radio community. Further information is available from George Bowen, N2LQS, at 518/283-3665 (e-mail kxkvi@delphi.com) or Stephan Anderman, WA3RKB, at 518/664- 6809 (e-mail sanderman@delphi.com). You may also reach them @ WA2UMX.FN32AW.ENY.NY.USA.NA via amateur packet. From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:09:48 1996 From: dbruder@surfsouth.com (Don Bruder) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Any repeaters in SW GA carrying shuttle traffic? Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 00:25:14 -0500 Message-ID: The subject says it all, I'd say... But just in case it doesn't, I'm in Dougherty county Georgia, looking for the frequency of any repeater(s) carrying space shuttle transmissions. Any assistance appreciated. Email replies are MUCH more likely to get to me, since this newsfeed is flakier than a bowl of wheaties. -- -- +----------------------+ \__ Roadkill on the information superhighway... |Don Bruder | | \ AUGH! +-----------------------------+ |dbruder@surfsouth.com | |_@_\____& / | I will choose a path | |I eat my roadkill...__|_|____|__@| @ | that's clear: I will choose | +/.\/.\-----------+ /.\/.\=(__)/.\] \|/ + Free-will -- Rush | _\_/\_/_____________\_/\_/_____\_/__/_\__ +-----------------------------+ From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:09:49 1996 From: rdd@access1.digex.net (R. D. Davis) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur Subject: Re: Does the test involve any practical work? Date: 30 Mar 1996 00:59:39 -0500 Message-ID: <4jiikb$jfo@access1.digex.net> References: <4iossi$s3a@ccuh.wlv.ac.uk> <4ip1mv$qko@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> <3150503D.5B58@rsvl.unisys.com> In article <3150503D.5B58@rsvl.unisys.com>, Edward Stafford wrote: >A.R. Duell wrote: >snip >> >> AFAIK there's no practical in the Radio Amateur Exam in the UK. There is >> (I think) in the novice test, but not for the full thing. IMHO this is >> wrong.... >> If you think it is wrong why did you write it? Are you trying to say >that you disagree? What are you doing at Cambridge? Are you making a >delivery? Are there no longer any literacy requirements for entrance? Mr. Stafford, I think that you're unfairly misjudging Mr. Duell; if you were familiar with the many excellent postings of his to various Usenet newsgroups, you'd not have posted the above reply. We're most fortunate to have people with his technical expertise here posting to Usenet newsroups, who are very helpful to others. Cambridge is most fortunate to have him there. In the future, please kindly reserve your snide flames for those those who deserve them. -- R. D. Davis * http://www.access.digex.net/~rdd \Computer preservationist. Home: +1 410 744-7964 * Eccentrics have more fun! :-)\Unwanted systems gladly Unconventional Computer Consulting & PERQ Software, \disassembled, removed divs. of Transpower Industries, Inc. +1 410 744-4900 \for free and preserved . From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:09:50 1996 From: zut@cais.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy Subject: Re: QRO Merchants Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 01:26:42 EST Message-ID: References: In article <4jfo94$lgp$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> Hans K0HB <71111.260 @CompuServe.COM> writes: >From: Hans K0HB <71111.260@CompuServe.COM> >Subject: QRO Merchants >Date: 29 Mar 1996 04:17:40 GMT >In light of all the heat and smoke here lately about >"QRO merchants" and "high power contesters", it was >interesting to note that the results of a recent major >ARRL contest show only 18% of the stations used high >power (more than 150W). (Sample size = 3,032 entries.) >7% ran less than 5W, and the remaining 75% ran somewhere >between 5W and 150W (most probably 100W). Hans makes a good point. High power isn't necessarily as desirable as one might think. The latest QRP Quarterly arrived this week and among the QRP awards noted was one earned by AA2U, who using 5 watts or less earned an EIGHT BAND DXCC with the following totals: 80M 107 countries 40M 196 countries 30M 215 countries 20M 295 countries 17M 254 countries 15M 291 countries 12M 226 countries 10M 271 countries There's also a column on "milliwatting" that discusses that part of the QRP community that considers 5 watts as QRO. Imagine carrying on a QSO at less than a watt. It's done all the time. I've been a QRO type for years, but one of our QCWA members brought his QRP logbook to the chapter meeting one time a while back and his success with an Argonaut and a wire antenna impressed us all. I was curious, so whn I came home, I cut the power back as far as it would go (about 8 watts) and I was amazed that using just my 40 meter dipole, I was getting out about as well as I had been with 125 watts. The signal reports weren't all that much different either. I got the bug and ordered a 2 watt 40 meter transmitter from Fair Radio for $20 and it did about as well. It's a blast! There is a popular misconception that a big-buck Japanese transceiver is necessary to operate HF, but in truth first-rate QRP transceivers with high performance receivers are available for $100-$300 and contrary to what some folks might tell you, QRP is reliable and a lot of fun. The catch is that operating CW will probably be necessary if all that great success is to be achieved. QRP SSB'ing is out there too, but the rigs are a good bit more expensive and you probably won't do as well breaking into the QRO pileups when you're going after that rare DX station. 73, Tony Stalls, K4KYO From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:09:52 1996 From: rdd@access1.digex.net (R. D. Davis) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: FCC radio amateur test questions Date: 30 Mar 1996 01:36:36 -0500 Message-ID: <4jikpk$k9n@access1.digex.net> After digging out a Utica model 650-A that got years ago, but never managed to get working yet, I've been contemplating taking the FCC licensing test so as to be able to use it when I repair it. It's been about 12 years since I've taken RF electronics courses, looked over the FCC test course materials, etc., and I'm wondering how much has changed since then. Hopefully the test still deals with vacuum tube circuitry (I'm guessing that there's still a lot of equipment out there which is using tubes). Should looking over my notes from back then, and learning Morse Code, be sufficient to at least get a passing score? From what I gather by reading messages in this newsgroup, there's more than one type of FCC test to take - how do the tests differ? Thanks very much in advance for any information that anyone can provide about this! -- R. D. Davis * http://www.access.digex.net/~rdd \Computer preservationist. Home: +1 410 744-7964 * Eccentrics have more fun! :-)\Unwanted systems gladly Unconventional Computer Consulting & PERQ Software, \disassembled, removed divs. of Transpower Industries, Inc. +1 410 744-4900 \for free and preserved . From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:09:52 1996 From: jackl@pinetree.microserve.com (WB3U) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy Subject: Re: CODE VS NO_CODE ......SOL Date: Sat, 30 Mar 96 05:24:27 GMT Message-ID: <4jigv0$l29@crash.microserve.net> References: <960325100059476@digcir.cts.com> <4jc41m$ksg@crash.microserve.net> <4jcslq$gv6@crl.crl.com> <4jdj1s$s93@crash.microserve.net> <4jhqsi$3kl@crl.crl.com> jeffj@crl.com (Jeff Jones) wrote: >Interesting to note that 2 meters has no CW requirement and lot's of >problems. 20 meters has a CW requirement and few problems to speak >of. >I think I seen a pattern here. And even 75 meters, the whipping boy of the no-code crowd, is nice and civilized in the CW segment. ;) 73, Jack WB3U From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:09:53 1996 From: radiomatt@aol.com (Radiomatt) Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Cheated by MARTIN DURHAM WT1S Date: 30 Mar 1996 08:19:23 -0500 Message-ID: <4jjccr$jh@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <4jeodg$kko@hearye.mlb.semi.harris.com> Reply-To: radiomatt@aol.com (Radiomatt) Barry is not disabled. Durham is! Barry seems to live a decent life. From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:09:55 1996 From: herb@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu (Nathan Ryan Gingras) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: HF sucks! Date: 30 Mar 1996 08:53:03 GMT Message-ID: <4jispf$k0i@uwm.edu> References: <4jelum$6ls@uwm.edu> <4jelvr$6ls@uwm.edu> Nathan Ryan Gingras (herb@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu) wrote: : : worked my share of HF, and thus I have not upgraded. All y'all seem to think I have been operating illegaly... (Natural assumption due to my lowly no-code status) But, I have three words for you: Third Party Operation. I belong to a ham club at the skUle. Nate. From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:09:56 1996 From: herb@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu (Nathan Ryan Gingras) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: ARO's suck Date: 30 Mar 1996 08:59:30 GMT Message-ID: <4jit5i$k0i@uwm.edu> References: <9603252153.S152062467@clubhouse.email.net> <4j8bg3$e1n@lehi.kuentos.guam.net> Jim Kehler (pacrimgolf@saba.kuentos.guam.net) wrote: : : Dear Clueless, : You should toy with the idea of becoming a human being. Go : back under your rock....... : : Once again, you managed to further prove Mr. Clueless's point! (and mine, for that matter.) nate. From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:09:57 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: john@wd1v.mv.com (John Seney) Subject: Mac Ham Users Group Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 09:09:01 GMT "Macnet Roster" (ver. 739) has just been updated and is now a stand-alone application! The version number = the number of hams using Macs. "Macnet Roster" lists: o CALL SIGN @ HOME PBBS o FULL NAME o ADDRESS o CITY, STATE, ZIP o INTERNET ADDRESS o MACS USED o RADIOS USED o SOFTWARE USED o PASSIONS o COMMENTS of every known amateur radio operator in the world that uses a Mac computer. You can use "Macnet Roster" to find other Mac users that you can then communicate with directly. Compare notes on software, applications, ideas, hints and kinks, and make new ham friends that use the same computer you do. (You already know how cool you are - imagine accessing "the rest of us"!) If you'd like the latest "Macnet Roster": Send me a formatted disk in a self addressed and stamped disk mailer that is in a large envelope clearly marked "ROSTER". Or connect to my home page via the WWW http://www.mv.com/ipusers/wd1v Put YOUR INFO (via EMAIL or disk using TEACH TEXT) if you'd like to be include d in the "Macnet Roster" or send an update to your stats to me via pkt or email anytime. John D. Seney |_|_|_|_| e-mail: john@wd1v.mv.com 144 Pepperidge Dr |_| |_| www http://www.mv.com/ipusers/wd1v Manchester, NH 03103-6150 |_|_ _|_| wireless: wd1v@wb1dsw.nh.usa.noam Voice Mail: 603-533-3472 | | | | | skytel page: 5956779@skymail.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:09:58 1996 From: asperges@innotts.co.uk (Jeremy Boot) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: G4NJH Pages Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 09:36:03 GMT Message-ID: <315cfc15.4961575@news.innotts.co.uk> Reply-To: asperges@innotts.co.uk Just a reminder that these pages have recently been updated. http://www.innotts.co.uk/~asperges/ If you have a particular interest that is not covered, how about writing for them yourself and I will include it, with proper credits etc? 73 de Jeremy G4NJH asperges@innotts.co.uk [Home, Am Radio, SWL pages: http://www.innotts.co.uk/~asperges/ ] From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:09:59 1996 From: "S. Sampson" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Is my tech plus study guide still effective? Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 10:09:06 -0600 Message-ID: <315D5CA2.124C@telepath.com> References: <4jfkc5$7p6@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> CrACKeD wrote: > > I have a study guide from Radio Shack for the Technician Plus License > which is dated effective July 1, 1990. Can I still use this book to > study for the current Technicain Plus exam? Check the cover. It states when it is good through. -- Steve Sampson, N5OWK mailto:ssampson@telepath.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:00 1996 From: gareth alun evans Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,uk.radio.amateur Subject: Re: Does the test involve any practical work? Date: Sat, 30 Mar 96 10:52:29 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <828183149snz@cemetery.demon.co.uk> References: <4iossi$s3a@ccuh.wlv.ac.uk> <4ip1mv$qko@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> <4jbq76$cd4@news3.cts.com> Reply-To: gareth@cemetery.demon.co.uk In article <4jbq76$cd4@news3.cts.com> jlkolb@sd.cts.com "John Kolb" writes: > : When is a gate NOT a gate? > > When it's AJAR. I thought that a Jar was an old unit of capacitance. -- 73 de G4SDW Gareth Evans From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:01 1996 From: "Anthony R. Gold" Newsgroups: uk.radio.amateur,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: March Internet Six News Date: Sat, 30 Mar 96 11:13:40 GMT Message-ID: <828184420snz@microvst.demon.co.uk> References: <4jhgtl$3r9@fhbgb1.itl.net> Reply-To: tgold@microvst.demon.co.uk In article <4jhgtl$3r9@fhbgb1.itl.net> equinox@itl.net "Geoff Brown" writes: > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > "INTERNET SIX NEWS" > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- This is very interesting material, and for me well worth archiving. My thanks to Geoff for his work. Could someone explain to me the meaning of: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've also received copies of this same newsletter from a couple of different mail reflector lists, but everywhere I read it, the quotes are there also. Is this same newsletter available from anywhere with plain text and no >'s? Regards, -- Tony - G3SKR / AA2PM email: tgold@panix.com tgold@microvst.demon.co.uk packet: g3skr@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:01 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel) Subject: Commercial SW Transmit License? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 11:54:12 GMT How does one apply for a commercial (as opposed to amateur) shortwave transmit license? What frequencies are available to anyone with such a license? How much does it cost? -- feustel@netcom.com Dave Feustel N9MYI For PGP Public Key, finger feustel@netcom.com Fort Wayne, IN Or else access http://www.mixi.net/~feustel/ 219-483-1857 From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:02 1996 From: Robert Newman Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: QSL info for S92SS,P49V and J37BC Date: Sat, 30 Mar 96 14:11:27 -0500 Message-ID: Im needing qsl info for S92SS, P49V and J37BC. Any help would be MOST appreciated. Robert/WB4LLP From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:03 1996 From: zut@cais.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy Subject: Re: QRO Merchants Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 14:19:45 EST Message-ID: References: <1996Mar30.144253.16065@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> In article gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) writes: >>The latest QRP Quarterly arrived this week and among the QRP awards noted was >>one earned by AA2U, who using 5 watts or less earned an EIGHT BAND DXCC with >>the following totals: >> >> 80M 107 countries >> 40M 196 countries >> 30M 215 countries >> 20M 295 countries >> 17M 254 countries >> 15M 291 countries >> 12M 226 countries >> 10M 271 countries >> >>There's also a column on "milliwatting" that discusses that part of the QRP >>community that considers 5 watts as QRO. Imagine carrying on a QSO at less >>than a watt. It's done all the time. >Yeah, but much of the credit for that belongs at the other end. It takes >no special or different skill to key a milliwatt than it does to key a >kilowatt. The skill is at the other end trying to dig that weak signal >out of the crowd, even when the station at the other end is running a >kilowatt and making *your* job easy. IMHO the awards and credit should >go to the guys working the milliwatters, not to the guys running milliwatts. "Yeah, but's" aside, the point was that this is quite an accomplishment and the Amateur community (particularly newcomers) shouldn't be jaded by all the hype for the bells-and-whistles Japanese rigs and the myth that high power (even 100 watts) is required for success on the air. I don't want to get into a debate over this, but if a QRP station makes it through the QRO pileup, especially to QSO with relatively rare DX, it takes a bit more skill than switching on the quad-4CX10,000's. 73, Tony Stalls, K4KYO zut@cais.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:05 1996 From: timhynde@ix.netcom.com(Tim Hynde ka8ddz qrp/Rochester, MI) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: HAM RADIO IS A CALLING Date: 30 Mar 1996 14:22:19 GMT Message-ID: <4jjg2r$bqp@cloner3.netcom.com> References: <8BD90B7.00290047A8.uuout@hobbs.com> In <8BD90B7.00290047A8.uuout@hobbs.com> roland.stiner@hobbs.com (ROLAND STINER ) writes: > > >To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us >Subject: HAM RADIO IS A CALLING > >G>Many non-hams are still surprised to learn that they could get an amateur > >license without a Morse test. This is a failure of marketing. Many others, > >Funny, when I entered the hobby, (I have been licensed since >1983) if you had an interest in RADIO per se, YOU found ham radio, >not the other way around. My point is that there is no need for >marketing if the interest is there. If it is not, there is no amount of >marketing you can do to win a person over. In other words, the people >will come if they want to-ham radio is not a new "flavor" of ice >cream-it's a calling. >--- > OLX 1.53 --------------> 73, de NK2U <---------------- Right on! I got into radio because I had an interest in short wave and communications, not because someone "sold" it to me. Why are so many pre-occupied with marketing our hobby? Are they having trouble drumming up a QSO on 40m? Tim, ka8ddz From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:06 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: QRO Merchants Message-ID: <1996Mar30.144253.16065@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 14:42:53 GMT In article zut@cais.com writes: >In article <4jfo94$lgp$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> Hans K0HB <71111.26 0@CompuServe.COM> writes: >>From: Hans K0HB <71111.260@CompuServe.COM> >>Subject: QRO Merchants >>Date: 29 Mar 1996 04:17:40 GMT > >>In light of all the heat and smoke here lately about >>"QRO merchants" and "high power contesters", it was >>interesting to note that the results of a recent major >>ARRL contest show only 18% of the stations used high >>power (more than 150W). (Sample size = 3,032 entries.) > >>7% ran less than 5W, and the remaining 75% ran somewhere >>between 5W and 150W (most probably 100W). > >Hans makes a good point. High power isn't necessarily as desirable as one >might think. True. When the FCC conducted their recent field tests, they found that most amateurs could reduce their power by 10 db or more and still carry on their contacts with little noticable degradation. Though of course there are notable exceptions to that. >The latest QRP Quarterly arrived this week and among the QRP awards noted was >one earned by AA2U, who using 5 watts or less earned an EIGHT BAND DXCC with >the following totals: > > 80M 107 countries > 40M 196 countries > 30M 215 countries > 20M 295 countries > 17M 254 countries > 15M 291 countries > 12M 226 countries > 10M 271 countries > >There's also a column on "milliwatting" that discusses that part of the QRP >community that considers 5 watts as QRO. Imagine carrying on a QSO at less >than a watt. It's done all the time. Yeah, but much of the credit for that belongs at the other end. It takes no special or different skill to key a milliwatt than it does to key a kilowatt. The skill is at the other end trying to dig that weak signal out of the crowd, even when the station at the other end is running a kilowatt and making *your* job easy. IMHO the awards and credit should go to the guys working the milliwatters, not to the guys running milliwatts. In that regard I really like things like the AMSAT ZRO tests. They give the credit where it belongs, to those stations able to dig out the very weakest signals, and not to the guys generating the very weakest signals. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:07 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: Terry Simonds Subject: Re: Licence renewal To: nhoop@centuryinter.net Message-ID: References: <314ee285.4902001@news.pc.centuryinter.net> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 14:59:19 GMT Contact ARRL for a 610. Fill it in where it asks for address change. 73--Terry/WB4FXD From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:08 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: Terry Simonds Subject: Re: I moved...HELP! To: nhoop@centuryinter.net Message-ID: References: <31516769.12385752@news.pc.centuryinter.net> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 15:11:35 GMT Get a form 610, change your address. You can keep ur old call... 73--Terry/WB4FXD From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:10 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: FCC radio amateur test questions Message-ID: <1996Mar30.151317.16224@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: <4jikpk$k9n@access1.digex.net> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 15:13:17 GMT In article <4jikpk$k9n@access1.digex.net> rdd@access1.digex.net (R. D. Davis) writes: >After digging out a Utica model 650-A that got years ago, but never >managed to get working yet, I've been contemplating taking the FCC >licensing test so as to be able to use it when I repair it. > >It's been about 12 years since I've taken RF electronics courses, >looked over the FCC test course materials, etc., and I'm wondering how >much has changed since then. Hopefully the test still deals with >vacuum tube circuitry (I'm guessing that there's still a lot of >equipment out there which is using tubes). There isn't much about vacuum tubes on current tests, but some of your knowledge about tubes will translate fairly well to questions about FETs. Bipolar current driven circuits, digital logic, PLLs, DDS, and the like may confuse you a bit however. >Should looking over my notes from back then, and learning Morse Code, >be sufficient to at least get a passing score? From what I gather by >reading messages in this newsgroup, there's more than one type of FCC >test to take - how do the tests differ? Get the new study guides. Nearly half of the exam is about regulations, and those have changed significantly. Most of the technical questions don't focus on individual active circuits. Most deal with systemic responses which require a different level of knowledge. Much of what you know will apply, but some new skills are needed too. The default entry license is now Tech (everything above 30 MHz), which requires no Morse speed testing, so you can get an amateur license without wetware conditioning. But for HF operation you still need to pass a code speed test (for now). There are now 5 levels of exams for HF access, ranging from the old Novice through Tech+, General, Advanced, and Extra. The first two require a 5 WPM Morse speed test, the middle two require a 13 WPM Morse speed test, and the latter requires a 20 WPM Morse speed test. HF licensing and sub-banding is all rather baroque, but what you need to know is that Advanced gives the most privileges for the effort expended. Novice and Tech+ give just a tiny taste of HF, General gives more (and may be sufficient for your needs), and Extra doesn't really grant much in the way of extra privileges above Advanced. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:12 1996 From: boetchaj@uwec.EDU (Alfred J. Boetcher) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: HT Dual-Band Amp vs. Dual-Band Mobile Date: 30 Mar 96 16:10:48 GMT Message-ID: >>In article lui@netcom.com (Stephen Lui) writes: >[snip] >>>I like all of the features of my HT and I probably have to buy something >>>like a Yaesu FT-8500 ($680) to get comparable features (alphanumerics are >>>high on my priority list). I like the ICOM IC-2000H ($300), but it is only >>>a 2M radio. >> Gary Coffman responds: >>Ouch. Yes, if bells and whistles are more important than solid >>communications capabilities, you're going to have to spend a ton >>on a mobile rig. But if you're more interested in good communications >>performance, there are alternatives which will work much better than >>a HT and an amp, while not costing more than the combination of a >>HT and an amp. The Yaesu FT-8500 is actually a pretty good ham rig, >>despite the bells and whistles, but a Motorola Mitrek would be better, >>and cost less than $100 (or a MIcor for $50, or a GE Mastr II for $75). >>With the change, you could also buy a scanner if you just have to have that capability.> "C. Wheeler" responds: >C'mon Gary! The suggestions you have given here are 180 degrees from what >Stephen is looking for. You think you're helping? Gary Coffman then re-responds: :Perhaps, if they make him think about what he really needs. Gary, I understood the point you were making about features vs good communications. Unfortunately, the person who started the original post probably didn't. Therefor, I have to agree with C. Wheeler. Your suggestions were poor at best and mis-information at worst. You have a wealth of information to share. The trick is knowing where and when to share it. 73 Fred B WU9R From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:13 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.amtenna,rec.radio.amateur.misc From: Terry Simonds Subject: Re: Shunt Feed Crank-up? To: ka_strom@ix.netcom.com Message-ID: References: <4jh867$eu@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 16:14:10 GMT Kevin--I have often wondered the same thing! I would like to excite my Hy-Gain 52SS crankup on 40m, but feel the continuity between sections would be a definite problem. I guess there's one way to find out: just do it! <:) Let me know what happened. I think low-power (<100W) would be in order at the outset! 73 gl Terry/WB4FXD From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:14 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: charles1@netcom.com (charles copeland) Subject: Re: HF sucks! Message-ID: References: <4jelum$6ls@uwm.edu> <4jelvr$6ls@uwm.edu> <4jfjv2$77e@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <4jh8kj$a1q@news.ais.net> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 16:21:05 GMT In article <4jh8kj$a1q@news.ais.net>, Edward J. March Jr. wrote: >CrACKeD (cracked@primenet.com) wrote: >: : : Hey, all those no-code HAMS who complain about not getting on HF are no t >: : : missing anything! Why would anyone want to be on HF? The conversations >: : : are always empty & meaningless. > >: Bravo. I am also a no-code tech and my views are very similar. I never >: have witnessed a HF QSO which contained anything more exciting than my >: cat could tell me. I guess some hams get kicks off that sort of >: operating, why I'll never know. I prefer more modern modes of >: communication, such as voice. Computer aided modes and satellite >: communications are much more interesting as well. > > Funny I thinkthe same about 2 meters ... as soon as you use > a repeater a group comes and squeez's you out ! Most of the > best technical talks have been on HF with Advanced's and Extras > Im not a DX'er or a Contester, I perfer rag chewing and talking > about home brewing etc.... but this day and age its all computers > and digital junk and every one is an appliance operator, > I too am caught in the trap - writing software all day! > My friend once said Ham radio would be more intresting if > there were no commercial radios only home brew ones -- I agree! > BTW computer were more fun before Microsoft came in, back when > 8080's and Z-80 and CP/M and assembly language hacking ... > when's the lasttime you built a linear amp using a 3-500Z ? > I see HF as a better pool of people to talk to -- you have a > wider sample across the country - where as VHF is ilmited to > 50 miles at best... its just probability. > > Ed >//--------------------------------------------------------------------- >// Edward March Jr. ** Mt. Prospect, IL **>http://www.cl.ais.net/emarch >//--------------------------------------------------------------------- Along with advanced computers and "appliance" hi-tech radios, the population has changed as well. I don't think your "wider sample across the country" holds water in todays world. People don't live in one spot all their life, as they did 30 years ago. In the two cities I've lived in (Denver,Dallas) seems most people are not natives, but from somewhere else. On VHF I've talked to people from all over the country, even one Russian on visiting USA. Now if you had mentioned HF as having a better pool of people to talk to around the world (AKA diverse) -- you'd have a point. From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:17 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: Terry Simonds Subject: Re: HF sucks! To: herb@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu Message-ID: References: <4jelum$6ls@uwm.edu> <4jelvr$6ls@uwm.edu> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 16:33:16 GMT Gee, Nate. What HF band were you listening to? One interesting reason to upgrade to HF is to meet people you probably never would have the opportunity to otherwise meet. I remember the time on RTTY several years back when I carried on a QSO for over an hour with a chap in France. He lived in a castle (he sent pix of it!) and was recently retired from a company that made cognac. We discussed the finer points of making cognac and how he liked living in a drafty old stone pile. How many local contacts would result in that conversation? Then there was the op living on the east coast of Africa. He told me that he was running on emergency power into a wire strung in the palm trees in the middle of a typhoon. After about ten minutes he suddenly disappeared in mid-sentence. I of course feared the worst until some months later a letter (not a card) arrived explaining what had happened. He was fine, but his house, antenna, and radios were a shambles. Ever heard that on 2m? One of our best friends was a G4 I met on 20m one afternoon back in the mid-80's. He became a silent key several years ago, but before he died we visited him and his wife in the UK and they have been here several times. Just last summer we spent several days with his widow over there. But, then, of course, you could have hopped in the car to visit a local contact. I'm not flaming you, Nate. Just don't write HF off as a lost cause. Listen, listen, and then listen some more. There's a lot more out there than "599-QRZ?" 73--Terry/WB4FXD From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:18 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: jmt@world.std.com (Jack M Twilley) Subject: Old issues of 73 & Ham radio? Message-ID: Distribution: rec Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 16:55:37 GMT How do I get old issues of 73 Magazine and Ham Radio? The Boston librarians are having trouble finding them from 1986. Addresses and phone numbers of publishers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Jack. From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:19 1996 From: subbustr@whidbey.net (DAVE M . SCHERTZER) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: ICOM 765 MODS Date: 30 Mar 1996 17:15:37 GMT Message-ID: <4jjq7p$9u@whidbey.whidbey.com> References: <4jhlvl$mla@News2.Lakes.com> IC-736 Mod ----------- 1. Remove power + ant. 2. Remove screws + bottom cover. 3. Locate and CUT diode D53 OR D54 (Try one, then the other - NOT BOTH!!!) Note: It is located on the "L" shaped board mounted vertically positiond just above the "LOCK" switch. 4. Reassemble the radio. 5. Reset CPU (Hold {M-CLEAR} + power ON. subbustr@whidbey.net From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:20 1996 From: dnorris@k7no.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Ham Fest or Porn Fest? Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 17:29:47 GMT Message-ID: <4jjjum$kap@news.syspac.com> References: <8BD61AF.00290046EB.uuout@hobbs.com> <3156CDCD.1A5D@sci.mus.mn.us> <315BC945.44A5@ccsnet.com> Burt Fisher wrote: >#================#=====================================================# >| Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | >| Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | >| K1OIK | If you sit on the fence, it is a pain in the butt | >#================#=====================================================# >| k1oik@ccsnet.com MAC is 5% of the market | >#======================================================================# >Get a GIF of K1OIK by telnet://ccsnet.com and go to FREE downloads for >bf1pres.gif (hams never had such excitment!) Ya gotta love this guys sense of humor. I betcha he thinks Murphy Brown is funny too. And mebbe Rozanne has a good voice! Hi Bret {;-) From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:21 1996 From: CrACKeD Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: HF sucks! Date: 30 Mar 1996 18:12:01 -0700 Message-ID: References: <4jelum$6ls@uwm.edu> <4jelvr$6ls@uwm.edu> <4jfjv2$77e@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <315daef0.1385110@news.isl.net> <315dd43f.610573@news.isl.net> > Nobody said anything about CW I am talking about SSB here. The > pronunciation is fine gracias. But the pitch isn't quite normal. |-) Well, I'm referring to CW modes anyway... > You may be able to but most of the complainers can't, they cry about > the CW requirement. Although I enjoy CW I agree that it is totally > unneeded. I would not mind at all if the requirement for CW were > dropped as part of the requirements to get on HF. My contention is > that there is a lot to be found on HF. Well, why would anyone cry about the CW requirement if they felt it is totally unneeded? That doesn't seem to logical. If they don't think it's needed, then why not just get a tech ticket? If they don't want to code, they don't need the privledges a higher class license gives them. Well, SSB perhaps, eh? _ ____________.--------. \`' __________|________| / [_(__] | | E-Mail: cracked@primenet.com .' .' Web Site: http://www.primenet.com/~cracked |____| FTP Site: ftp.primenet.com/users/c/cracked From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:22 1996 From: jackl@pinetree.microserve.com (WB3U) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Thanks for the 8 inch floppy help everyone. Date: Sat, 30 Mar 96 18:17:30 GMT Message-ID: <4jju8g$p6j@crash.microserve.net> References: <4j3gn6$e29@ns2.ptd.net> <315BC7E9.4097@ccsnet.com> Burt Fisher wrote: >How many times do I have to read messages from hams that send a >"Thank You" addressed to ALL. When one seeks help and someone takes the time to respond . . . How ironic that you, of all people, would accuse another person of bad manners. Have you ever thought about using your time and knowledge of electronics to help some of the newcomers instead? Stop indulging in this self-gratification and lend a hand. We could all use the help. 73, Jack WB3U From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:23 1996 From: adell@planet.net (KF2TI - Steve) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Thanks for the 8 inch floppy help everyone. Date: 30 Mar 1996 19:06:45 GMT Message-ID: <4jk0o5$o8n@jupiter.planet.net> References: <4jju8g$p6j@crash.microserve.net> > jackl@pinetree.microserve.com (WB3U) writes: > Burt Fisher wrote: > > >How many times do I have to read messages from hams that send a > >"Thank You" addressed to ALL. When one seeks help and someone takes > the time to respond . . . > > How ironic that you, of all people, would accuse another person of bad > manners. Have you ever thought about using your time and knowledge of > electronics to help some of the newcomers instead? > > Stop indulging in this self-gratification and lend a hand. We could > all use the help. > > 73, > Jack WB3U > >>>> forget it jack, burt is a teacher and therefore is helping others. remember those who can do, those who can't teach steve no code or know code only your hairdresser nose four sure From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:24 1996 From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: The real Ham Fox Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 19:24:23 -0500 Message-ID: <315DD0B7.CF1@ccsnet.com> REPORT ON THE MONTHLY MELBOURNE FOX HUNT - MARCH 1996 The March hunt was held on the evening of the 22nd in mild conditions. This was one week later than scheduled, as many of our teams had been involved in communications for the Rally of Melbourne, or the National Field Day on the previous weekend. Our fox for the night was Roanne 35-25-35, who gathered together about thirty hounds comprising eight teams. One notable omission was the team of your writer, the members of which arrived at their driver's house only to find that he'd forgotten all about the hunt and gone out with his wife for the evening (what a stupid man when he could have been with some old white fat smelly hams). In the spirit of Melbourne Fox Hunting, these forgotten hounds joined other teams for the night. All hounds were hunting on the 2m band for the evening. The first event led the pack to the top of a GO GO bar in Mulgrave. Most teams were untroubled but it got a rise out of some. Our fox then stopped outside the Penthouse in Wantirna South. Many hounds found themselves separated from the fox by a deep crevice, so resorted to guiding other members of their teams in on the liaison frequency. VK3WWW won this event clearly. The teams next travelled to locate a fox at the end of a nudist beach near Ferntree Gully. VK3BLN took this event narrowly from VK3VT, with the rest of the field a long way back. He was fit to be tied. The fox next located herself on a Corvette that must be amongst the steepest roads in metropolitan Melbourne. VK3BLN took his second notch of the night, just ahead of who VK3TKQ who CAME in second. A bathouse was the fox's next hiding place. VK3TKQ was a narrow winner, this time ahead of VK3YQN and VK3TLE who were eaten alive by the fox. The hounds had a special treat after finding the next fox at Johns Hill Reserve in Menzies Creek. The Hyakutake Comet was very clearly visible in the North-East, with all hounds taking some time to view the comet from this excellent lookout while the fox stood in a scant bathing suit nearby . Our hounds tracked the fox to The Strip for our final event, with VK3YQN winning narrowly from VK3GMZ. Supper was held nearby where the fox tallied and announced the scores. Clear winners for the night were members of the VK3YQN team, with newcomers VK3TLE in second place and VK3WWW in third. Close examination of the scores showed that all teams had managed either a first place or a very close second place at some stage during the night. However the nut that stayed home with his wife scored the most. The April hunt will be held on the evening of the 19th, with the hounds to gather in the Northern car park of Clayton Railway Station for a departure at 8:15 sharp. Supper will be held in Dingley Village.  From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:25 1996 From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Oh ham radio is better than sex? Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 19:25:22 -0500 Message-ID: <315DD0F2.6E00@ccsnet.com> Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 07:12:40 -0500 From: Robin Arnaud One reason, I admit, is that I've simply lost interest in ham radio. I've listened for years to long drawn-out conversations on HF between folks who have very little to say except to talk about their radios, their antennas, their feedlines, the skip conditions, that sorta stuff. I've always found that wearisome and strange, since I don't use my telephone that way. Call someone on the phone and spend an hour or so talking about the telephone: "Hi, Stephanie, this is Robin! How's this telephone sound? It's an AT&T. I just added a bunch of special modifications to it... so how's *your* telephone doing? REally? Cool! I can't wait for spring to come back so I can watch the birds gathering on the telephone lines outside again. Oh, but those deed restrictions in your neighborhood... cables have to be buried, huh? That's a shame. Hey, did y'hear that? Oh, well, it sounded sorta like an echo for a split second. Better take this phone apart again and check ...it..." etc etc etc ad nauseum.  From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:26 1996 From: pete m fulton Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Radio Shack-You've got questions?-We've got BLANK STARES! Date: 30 Mar 1996 19:42:28 GMT Message-ID: <4jk2r4$knd@news.preferred.com> References: <4j1egi$enp@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> <4jae28$fg8@crash.microserve.net> <4jhci0$dhf@news.service.uci.edu> To: jwkelley@e4e.oac.uci.edu hello,i have questions From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:27 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: charles1@netcom.com (charles copeland) Subject: Re: HF sucks! Message-ID: References: <4jelum$6ls@uwm.edu> <4jelvr$6ls@uwm.edu> <4jfjv2$77e@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <315daef0.1385110@news.isl.net> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 23:29:04 GMT In article <315daef0.1385110@news.isl.net>, Gilbert Baron wrote: >CrACKeD wrote: > > >>>>> The only in depth conversations I have ever had on HF were with people >>>>> within 20 miles. You could use 2 meter, or 440 for that, and spend less >>>>> on gear! What is the point of yelling CQ CQ CQ (or ponding CQ CQ CQ) jus t >>>>> to get a stupid qsl card? >>>>> As far as the three items listed above, >>>>> >>>>> Just my thoughts. No-coders, you really aren't missing much, so if you >>>>> can't learn code for whatever reason, don't sweat it! You can get better >>>>> looking postcards at the corner drugstore, and you can have better >>>>> conversations with local trees, and other vegitation. >>>>> > >>>Bravo. I am also a no-code tech and my views are very similar. I never >>>have witnessed a HF QSO which contained anything more exciting than my >>>cat could tell me. I guess some hams get kicks off that sort of >>>operating, why I'll never know. I prefer more modern modes of >>>communication, such as voice. Computer aided modes and satellite >>>communications are much more interesting as well. >>> > >None of you have tried very hard. I have used HF a lot to practice my >Spanish. It seems to me that I have pointed out at least one very >useful thing on hf. I've been listening to HF for two years (Sony 2010) and find it extremely rare to hear an interesting conversation. >There has been a lot of useful health and welfare traffic on HF. That is interesting. I heard the HAMS passing messages back to mainland after last summers hurricanes. Was only way for them to communicate to loved ones they were OK. >If you are finding nothing it is because you don't try or don't want >to or are just rationalizing you inability to get a license for HF. >Gil Baron W0MN gbaron@millcomm.com Web http://www.isl.net/~gbaron I tried, nada, zippo, extremely boring listening on HF ... majority of time. Your second wise crack is your attempt to rationalize this fellows views on HF conversations. Me thinks you fall into category of "old fart". KC5LWF From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:28 1996 From: adell@planet.net ( Steve - KF2TI) Landing, NJ Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: HF sUcks??? Date: 30 Mar 1996 23:59:32 GMT Message-ID: <4jkht4$pk6@jupiter.planet.net> Seems to me that the chronic complainers seem to have 1 small problem and I ha ve the solution. Follow the example of the war protesters of the 60's. BURN your licenses. Ge t off the airwaves..show your unhappiness by shutting down and dropping out. I would also shot the SOB that forced you to get that dreaded license. How da re they make you do something you didn't want to do!!! Stay off the wicked nasty HF. Show your contempt by never upgrading. Leave H F to the DX'ers and the contesters. Stay in your basements with video screens glued to your foreheads. Be like Bu rt..be like Drew..be like Jerry Moan, groan, do anything it takes to scare the big bad HF away. Remember only you can prevent forset fires. RF caused IQ changes, stay away WARNING WILL ROBINSON WARNING stay off HF stay where it's safe DANGER DANGER HF will kill stay away This has been a pubic (happy burt??) service announcement sponsored Kids In Space Serving Many Amateur Spectrum Sections (KISSMYASS) No code or Know code who gives a darn Steve From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:30 1996 From: algollom@interlog.com (Alan Gollom) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: RTTY on the WARC bands Date: 31 Mar 1996 01:06:29 GMT Message-ID: <4jklql$gps@steel.interlog.com> As one who has recently discovered the joys of RTTY, I've been scouting the various bands for activity in that mode. I've discovered a fair bit on 80, 40 and 20 (the open bands these days), but next to nothing on the 30 and 17 meter WARC bands. Now I realize that the WARC bands probably don't appeal to those whose primary interest is contesting. I also guess that there may be a reluctance by some with limited space who want to optomize what space they have for antennas for the bands "where the action is". This is certainly not to say the WARC bands are dead. Far from it. There is a fair bit of activity on phone, cw, packet and the TOR modes, but as I said, little if any on RTTY. There's nice open space there just waiting to be filled. You might be pleasantly surprised by the propagation on these bands and what you can do with just 50 - 100 watts and a simple dipole - especially now during the low end of the solar cycle. So how about giving it a try, RTTY enthusiasts. Break away from the crowds and try something new and a little different - RTTY on the WARC bands. Hope to see you there. 73...Alan VE3XAG From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:30 1996 From: leffler@ix.netcom.com(RICHARD LEFFLER) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: HF ant on Astrovan? Date: 31 Mar 1996 01:10:47 GMT Message-ID: <4jkm2n$sac@dfw-ixnews1.ix.netcom.com> Has anyone actually mounted and HF antenna system on their Astrovan? If so, how and where? I have set of Hustler coils I want to use, but cannot seem to find an easy way to mount the spring and ball through the side of the vehidcle. Email info to: leffler@ix.netcom.com. Tnx from Dick - AC6CE. From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:31 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.misc From: jlowman@netcom.com (Jim Lowman) Subject: Re: Eliminate CW from rigs.See if they sell! Message-ID: References: <4ja4ro$b74@bingnet1.cc.binghamton.edu> <1996Mar29.172858.11408@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 01:11:18 GMT Gary Coffman (gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us) wrote: : The pertinent metric would then seem to be, how many amateurs : purchase the optional CW filter? I don't have any statistics, : but it would be interesting to find out. (Even that is confusing, : however. For example I bought the 500 Hz digital filter for the : IC-706, but some might have bought it for CW because the 250 Hz : filter has excessive ringing.) Since the IC-706 has room for only one filter, it is a nice feature that the filter plugs in, as opposed to being soldered in place. Here is another burning question: How many hams are buying the IC-706 for *VHF* use? Sounds odd, but one of my thoughts before buying the 706 was, "Well, even if the HF is not that good, where can one find a 6/2 meter all-mode transceiver in one box, for any price?" The club bought a 706 just before I did, and I plan to take both 706s to Field Day this year. My wife is trying to stimulate interest in other VHF modes than FM and packet by operating 6/2 SSB during FD, while I operate 10-15-20 with my 706. Just a thought... 73 de Jim - KF6CR From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:32 1996 From: l.mclaughlin@slipid.async.csuohio.edu (Bostonian) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: WTD: RCA WT-100A OR HICKOK 700 TUBE TESTER Date: 31 Mar 1996 01:40:26 GMT Message-ID: <4jknqa$5i7@csu-b.csuohio.edu> RCA WT-100A and/or Hickok 700 tube tester wanted. Seeking unit in good running condition, needing some repairs or for parts (if I later come across a working unit). Willing to swap for something or please state a fair price for the respective unit. I would prefer swapping something as cash is tight, but I would have to find out what you are looking for -- I may have it. Please indicate if you have manuals, schematics, charts and/or plug-in tube sockets for the respective tube tester. Kindly, email with details. Thank you.  From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:33 1996 From: leslie ferguson Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Transverter ,hf rig problem Date: 31 Mar 1996 01:56:39 GMT Message-ID: <4jkoon$k51@nuacht.iol.ie> Hi Can anyone help me,i have a 2meter transverter connected up to my hf rig(ft 757 gx) but every time i transmit i get audio back out throught the speaker on the hf rig.I wander is the hf rig picking up rf from the transverter or is it something else can any help? Thanks ....ei9ejb..... From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:34 1996 From: keeton@acm.cs.umr.edu (John Keeton) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: FT-530 mod Date: 31 Mar 1996 02:27:32 GMT Message-ID: <4jkqik$fr@hptemp1.cc.umr.edu> References: Ben... I have had my 530 for about one month now... I did the mod where you cut the green wire... I have extended Rx on VFH but thats it... No Extended Rx/Tx on UFh (I even changed the band limits..) The mod worked great the day that I did it.. But the next day it didn't work. Get that?? I can figure it out... Nobody else can figure it out either... I undid it by connecting the green wires back up... reset the radio... disconnected them.. w/ the radio it had extended Tx/Rx on both Uhf/Vfh.. But when I closed the radio back up the quit working.. That part really confused me!! Good luck... if you want more info from me or a copy of the mod I did... email me.. keeton@acm.cs.umr.edu.. Enjoy.. /john keeton@acm.cs.umr.edu http://www.umr.edu/~keeton Ben Chambers (b_chambers@conknet.com) wrote: > Hi, > I have an FT-530 and I have the mod file for it... I'm a bit paranoid > about doing it as my friend's radio has a different layout inside. (He did > the mod on his). I'm wondering if anybody has successfully completed the > mod on a recently purchesed FT-530, and which instructions were correct. From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:35 1996 From: srwhite@ibm.net Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Is my tech plus study guide still effective? Date: 31 Mar 1996 03:02:02 GMT Message-ID: <4jksja$4a66@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> References: <4jfkc5$7p6@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <315D5CA2.124C@telepath.com> Reply-To: srwhite@ibm.net In <315D5CA2.124C@telepath.com>, "S. Sampson" writes: >CrACKeD wrote: >> >> I have a study guide from Radio Shack for the Technician Plus License >> which is dated effective July 1, 1990. Can I still use this book to >> study for the current Technicain Plus exam? > >Check the cover. It states when it is good through. > >-- >Steve Sampson, N5OWK >mailto:ssampson@telepath.com Last I knew there were new questions for the Technician class licenses effective July 1, 1995... So, nope... No good! (1990?? The pool has been updated twice since then!) Steve W. N2RWE From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:36 1996 From: Jleikhim@nettally.com (Joe Leikhim) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Whats wrong with my FT-11R? Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 03:33:08 GMT Message-ID: <4jkutd$e2a@server.cntfl.com> References: <4j57ee$rmc@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Stanley Lalli wrote: >Recently my FT-11R stoped working. It turns on, memory, display, >beeps...all work. If I try to key, the signal meter goes up, but the >transmit light doesn't come on. There is NO signal output. The receiver >is out too. You can open the squelch and there is static, but it WILL NOT >receive any signals. Sounds like the synthesizer is out of lock. Did someone modify the unit for "out of band" if so they may have tried to tune the VCO for another freq range. Try the unit on different parts of the band to see if it works. Try simplex, If it will work at all you have a chance to reset the VCO. A VCO adjustment generally requires you to set the radio to a specific frequency and adjust the coil for a specific VCO voltage, reset to another freq and verify or reset the voltage again. Sometimes these small radios' VCO's go out of lock due to poor mechanical assembly, loose hardware, or poor grounding. Good luck. From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:37 1996 From: rawiley@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu (R. Wiley) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy Subject: Re: Ham Fest or Porn Fest? Date: 31 Mar 96 06:25:52 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <4j2jp7$9eg@yrkpa.kias.com> <4ja0r9$djp@news.socketis.net> albraun@socketis.net writes: >(more flame bait) The lewd/crude/obscene conversation on many of the HF >SSB bands is another area where there is real potential for giving newcomers >& especially kids a bad impression of hams & of ham radio in general. This >is harder to police than hamfests but I think it is another area where we nee d >to examine ourselves & decide what sort of impression we want to give >people. Failure to do so will surely result in us losing our bands someday >to business interests. >73 - Alan Braun NS0B The bands lost to business interests haven't been lost due to content but disuse. Showtime and Cinemax are business interests. NE0R From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:38 1996 From: rawiley@blue.weeg.uiowa.edu (R. Wiley) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: No-Code Crybabys Date: 31 Mar 96 06:42:08 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <199603221818.NAA18227@grtk> <1996Mar23.145043.9284@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4j3m77$h49@lehi.kuentos.guam.net> <1996Mar24.224615.17669@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4j5r02$sq4@lehi.kuentos.guam.net> <4jahoe$3uic@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> <4jc8qt$lm3@crash.microserve.net> <4jecdh$2uki@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> srwhite@ibm.net writes: I'd say that at least a third of all hams own >computers, and if the object of the no-code license is to attract the >computer type, then it seems as though no-code with computer proficiency >go really well hand-in-hand. The object of the no-code license has nothing to do with attracting "computer types". Canada tried digital licenses long before the US no-code license to attract the Pac Man crowd. The response was underwhelming. The no-code license was created to help electronic importers sell 2 meter boxes. NE0R From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:39 1996 From: dl278@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (William J. Graham) Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Radio Shack-You've got questions?-We've got BLANK STARES! Date: 31 Mar 1996 07:39:14 GMT Message-ID: <4jlcr2$h9v@madeline.INS.CWRU.Edu> References: <4j1egi$enp@dfw-ixnews5.ix.netcom.com> <4jae28$fg8@crash.microserve.net> <4jhci0$dhf@news.service.uci.edu> <4jk2r4$knd@news.preferred.com> Reply-To: dl278@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (William J. Graham) interestingly enough a friend who used to manage a company owned store once told me that he had be advised NOT to hire hams and others with knowledge of electronics and computers. Might tell the truth I guess 73 Bill N5LMX/DA1WG -- Never Thirst ! "My head hurts, my feet stink and I don't love Jesus!"- J. Buffett From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:40 1996 From: "Ken Bessler (KG0WX)" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.cb,rec.radio.scanner Subject: Re: No Code = No Brain = C.B. Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 07:51:25 -0600 Message-ID: <315E8DDD.3023@southwind.net> References: <4csf3v$bgo@news.mcn.net> <4fa64n$qpe@netport.com> <4fi74f$rjb@over.mhv.net> <4gb4pa$182@news.onramp.net> <4ji31p$r35@access4.digex.net> <315D2565.539B@interramp.com> kevin D. tischler wrote: > ok, you think that, > no problem... > fuck you you stupid asswipe motherfucker.... > > you started it. > i ended it > eat shit you stupid pig fuck. > go back to 2,10,1.2g, whatever. > STAY OFF 11 METER > > fuck you you puke..... > > this is how U see us, therefore this is how we are. > l8tr Hmmmm. Sounds like CB to me! -- Ken Bessler Design Services Company http://www2.southwind.net/~kg0wx Model railroad designing From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:41 1996 From: lovelace@primenet.com (lovelace) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: YAESU DAY AT HRO Date: 31 Mar 1996 08:49:01 -0700 Message-ID: <315ea92a.4279865@news.primenet.com> References: <4jm47l$6sj@news.snni.com> Where is the new Phoenix store to be located? I hope no further west than it already is located! dale@exo.com (R. Dale Piedfort) wrote: >To celebrate the Grand Opening of the new Phoenix, Arizona store >on April 13th, 1996 all 12 Ham Radio Outlet stores will be offering >special discounts on all Yaesu Products.......... > >Yaesu factory representatives will be at the Phoenix store to answer >your questions about their products.. > From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:41 1996 From: RFBG67A@prodigy.com (Stanley Schroeder) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: 2 meter or 440Mhz? Date: 31 Mar 1996 09:34:48 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <4jljjo$1edk@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com> 2 meter or 440 Mhz? I just passed my technician test and I'm saving to buy a hand held unit. To start with, I figured I'd just get something dependable and affordable, but nothing too fancy (either new or used, whatever is the better deal.) I've herd that the Radio Shack hand helds are good for the price. Does anybody have any suggestions on better hand helds units? And does anybody have any sugestions on which band is better or at least info on the pro and cons between 2m and 440? Eventually I'd also like to get into packet radio so that is also a factor in figuring out which band might be better for me to start out in. 73 de KF6CND Stan [rfbg67a@prodigy.com] From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:42 1996 From: vroberts@rpa.net Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: HF sucks! Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 10:12:17 GMT Message-ID: <4jlbir$7c9@www.rpa.net> References: <4jelum$6ls@uwm.edu> <4jelvr$6ls@uwm.edu> Well, at least he's got the QRP thing right. I kinda get a kick out of working South America , Cuba, Europe and the West coast from my car with my Ramsey 10 watt 20m rig and a hamstick. Of course it's the same when chatting with someone in Russia or elsewhere in Europe on my paltry 100 watts and 50ft. wire running out of my window in the trailer park I live in. Gee, I'm glad I didn't reduce my self to joining that "no-code-crybaby" thread :) From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:43 1996 From: Burt Fisher Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: If you own a gun and you are a ham Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 10:15:09 -0500 Message-ID: <315EA17D.2877@ccsnet.com> You are a double wimp. You need the gun to replace the part on your body that is dormant and you use the ham radio to play the Wizard of Oz -- #================#=====================================================#| Bur t Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | | Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | | K1OIK | If you sit on the fence, it is a pain in the butt | #================#=====================================================#| k1oi k@ccsnet.com MAC is 5% of the market | #======================================================================# Get a GIF of K1OIK by telnet://ccsnet.com and go to FREE downloads for bf1pres.gif (hams never had such excitment!) From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:44 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Message-ID: <44@pplace.win.net> References: <9603252153.S152062467@clubhouse.email.net> <4j7r82$e33@B1FF.mindspring.com><315C9CF7.3B34@ccsnet.com> Reply-To: pw@pplace.win.net (Patrick Wilson) From: pw@pplace.win.net (Patrick Wilson) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 10:15:50 GMT Subject: Re:Burts suck A least you do. I heard....... In article <315C9CF7.3B34@ccsnet.com>, Burt Fisher (k1oik@ccsnet.com) writes: >sco@sco-inc.com wrote: >> >> clueless129@clubhouse.email.net wrote: >> >> >I must confess that at various times in my life I have toyed with >> >the idea of becomming an amateur radio operator. >> >> Well you are NOT a ham ... good. You are not good enough to pass the >> exams. > >But I am a ham and the author is correct, we suck. >#================#=====================================================# >| Burt Fisher | Teacher of video, broadcasting and electronics | >| Amateur call | South Dennis, Ma. (Cape Cod) | >| K1OIK | If you sit on the fence, it is a pain in the butt | >#================#=====================================================# >| k1oik@ccsnet.com MAC is 5% of the market | >#======================================================================# > >Get a GIF of K1OIK by telnet://ccsnet.com and go to FREE downloads for >bf1pres.gif (hams never had such excitment!) > From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:45 1996 From: Charles Bolland Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.noncomm,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap Subject: Shortwave etc database program.... Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 10:51:57 -0800 Message-ID: <315ED44D.1E94@flinet.com> Sir, A stand alone IBM compatible Broadcasting Radio Station Database program for Longwave, Mediumwave, or Shortwave. 4000 records... Completely read/write and updateable... If you'd like a copy, send your EMail address and Postal Address which will be used to pass you more detailed information on the full featured program.... The above program will be sent via EMAIL... All information will be kept confidential.... Chuck KA4PRF From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:46 1996 From: pacrimgolf@saba.kuentos.guam.net (Jim Kehler) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Hamfests suck was(Re: HF sucks! Date: 31 Mar 1996 10:55:04 GMT Message-ID: <4jloa8$20p@lehi.kuentos.guam.net> References: <4jelum$6ls@uwm.edu> <4jelvr$6ls@uwm.edu> <4jgdre$179@lehi.kuentos.guam.net> <1996Mar30.122717.14954@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Gary Coffman (gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us) wrote: : In article <4jgdre$179@lehi.kuentos.guam.net> pacrimgolf@saba.kuentos.guam.n et (Jim Kehler) writes: : Jim, you're advice to Nate about HF is spot on, however, let me take : issue with your view of hamfests. OK Gary, you have a point. "One man's garbage is another man's gold.....". I'd like to meet you some time, but not at a hamfest..... 73, Jim KH2D From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:47 1996 From: pillera@aol.com (Pillera) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: UT7W Date: 31 Mar 1996 10:59:29 -0500 Message-ID: <4jma51$qti@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: pillera@aol.com (Pillera) Hi, I just worked UT7W on 14.239 MHz, and can't find him in the callbook. How do I QSL him? Thanks! Joe Pillera, N8QYO Ann Arbor, MI USA pillera@aol.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:49 1996 From: Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,alt.radio.pirate,aus.radio,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,uk.radio.amateur Subject: Naughty Rude Words Date: 31 Mar 1996 11:05:54 GMT Message-ID: <4jloui$lmr@juliana.sprynet.com> This thread having to do with the messed up FM-25 has certainly gotten the mil eage. We're all behaving like a bunch of politicians: making a lot of noise about s omething that is not in the least bit important. An emotional issue and therefore not conducive to rational discussion. We're talking about words here, not some threat to personal or national securi ty, or to the health and general welfare of mankind. Just words. Every time I read another shrill and strident post on this subject I think about what my son (10 at the time) said when Pee Wee Herman was busted , "Isn't that what people do when they watch porno flicks?" Oh, that wonderful purity of a child's morality. Come on folks, let's drop this thing for good. It's a waste of resources and time and it's getting ridiculous what with the patriots, the freedom fight ers and the moralists getting all frothed up. What has finally done it for me is a messag e I read today that alludes to posts acceptable for "family channels" and "mixed company" yet has a signature block that contains the suggestive double entendre "Hams do it bounc ing off the "F" layer." What a hypocritical, self-righteous prig! From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:50 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: jbl@levin.mv.com (Joel B Levin) Subject: Re: Is my tech plus study guide still effective? Message-ID: <315e76d8.10600525@quartz.mv.com> Reply-To: jbl@levin.mv.com Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 12:15:29 GMT References: <4jfkc5$7p6@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> <315D5CA2.124C@telepath.com> In <315D5CA2.124C@telepath.com>, S. Sampson <"S. Sampson" > wrote: |CrACKeD wrote: does he have a name or a call sign? |> I have a study guide from Radio Shack for the Technician Plus License |> which is dated effective July 1, 1990. Can I still use this book to |> study for the current Technicain Plus exam? | |Check the cover. It states when it is good through. The questions for technician were revised in '93 or so. Certainly the '90 book is out of date. (If it's a book like Now You're Talking, the text is mostly OK, only the question pool is affected.) Of course the technician plus only requires a 5 wpm code test - no theory. The next license that needs theory is general, and you need 13 wpm for that. /J -- Nets: levin@bbn.com | "There were sweetheart roses on Yancey Wilmerding's or jbl@levin.mv.com| bureau that morning. Wide-eyed and distraught, she POTS: (617)873-3463 | stood with all her faculties rooted to the floor." ARS: KD1ON | -- S. J. Perelman From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:51 1996 From: MMcanally@gnn.com (Mark McAnally) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: * * * AFFORDABLE QSL CARDS * * * Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 13:00:49 Message-ID: <4jmkid$fav@news-e2b.gnn.com> After some checking, I found out that QSL cards cost anywhere from $70.00 to $450.00 per 1000 cards to be printed up. I also found out that you are pretty limited to the color of card, artwork and color of ink to choose from. I have been printing cards for my ham friends for some time now and I have been encouraged by my friends to branch out and advertise a little. I can print 1000 cards with black ink for only $50.00. Why should you order your cards from me? Because $50.00 is it! No shipping charges, no setup charges, no hidden costs. PLUS...you have your choice of 13 card colors, unlimited artwork, and you can have up to FIVE different layouts per order. Want color ink? For example, do you want a red, white and blue US flag on your cards? That would only be $65.00 per 1000, with 13 card colors to choose from, up to FIVE different layouts, and unlimited artwork in black or colors. Your card color choices are white, blue, yellow, pink, green, ivory, peach, gray, and the following eyepopping flourescents: yellow, pink, green, blue, and red. 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To place an order call Mark at (904) 626-2450 or FAX (904)626-7686 or you can mail check or money order to: McAnally and Associates 6223 Hwy 90 Suite 301 Milton, FL 32570-1708 From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:52 1996 From: EJVJ40A@prodigy.com (George Deamicis) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: E-MAIL ADDRESS FOR AEA Date: 31 Mar 1996 13:24:24 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <4jm128$1t8s@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com> Does anyone have a E-Mail address for Advance Electronic Applications, Inc. 73 GEORGE N1JGE From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:53 1996 From: dale@exo.com (R. Dale Piedfort) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: YAESU DAY AT HRO Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 14:12:25 GMT Message-ID: <4jm47l$6sj@news.snni.com> To celebrate the Grand Opening of the new Phoenix, Arizona store on April 13th, 1996 all 12 Ham Radio Outlet stores will be offering special discounts on all Yaesu Products.......... Yaesu factory representatives will be at the Phoenix store to answer your questions about their products.. From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:53 1996 From: c002@Lehigh.EDU Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Ham Fest or Porn Fest? Date: 31 Mar 1996 15:01:44 -0500 Message-ID: <4jmob8$2f1m@ns2-1.CC.Lehigh.EDU> >> poetic way to describe amateurs: 'mostly male, mostly middle aged, >> mostly white group of asocial loners'. And all these years I have >> been told that ham radio consisted of the three basic groups: >> freaks, jerks, and weirdos........ > >Those groups are very well represented in ham radio. IE: YOU! DAvid |-----------------------------------------------------------------------| | David Roseman | c002@lehigh.edu OUTTA ORDER! | SysOp of NODE 3 BBS | The Flying HAm - BBS | | | Running OBV/2 Software | Technomage - BBS | | | 610.838.2989 | N3SQE/1 - HAm V | | (Parttime system) | N3SQE@Nxxxx.FNxxxx.PA.USA.NA - Packet | |-----My AWESOME home page :) http://www.lehigh.edu/~c002/c002.html-----| From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:54 1996 From: Alan Doherty Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: QSL info for S92SS,P49V and J37BC Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 15:36:21 +0100 Distribution: world Message-ID: References: In article , Robert Newman writes >Im needing qsl info for S92SS, P49V and J37BC. >Any help would be MOST appreciated. > >Robert/WB4LLP S92SS Charles Lewis, Box 522, Sao Tome, West Africa. (Via Portugal) P49V Via AI6V -- Alan Doherty, GI0OTC From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:55 1996 From: Cecil Moore Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Naughty Rude Words Date: 31 Mar 1996 16:16:22 GMT Message-ID: <4jmb4m$9hp@itnews.sc.intel.com> References: <4jloui$lmr@juliana.sprynet.com> wrote: > >We're talking about words here, not some threat to personal or national secur ity, or to >the health and general welfare of mankind. Just words. Hi Stephan, well said. The ones who get upset are cooperating with the upsetti ng one by using freedom of choice to choose to get upset. Assume exactly the same word meanings but in a language one doesn't understand. No upset there. "Stick s and stones ..." 73, Cecil, KG7BK, OOTC (not speaking for my employer) From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:56 1996 From: YPAK35A@prodigy.com (Larry Jones) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: 30 meter operators Date: 31 Mar 1996 16:45:54 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <4jmcs2$jq8@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com> I am operating 30 meters virtually all the time now and am interested in hearing from other 30 meter operators. What kind of equiptment are you using, what antenna and what do you think about the band as concerns propagation and dx.- 73, wb5kyk PS: I am in MS. and if you need a sked let me know. From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:57 1996 From: herb@alpha1.csd.uwm.edu (Nathan Ryan Gingras) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: If you own a gun and you are a ham Date: 31 Mar 1996 17:02:11 GMT Message-ID: <4jmdqj$9kb@uwm.edu> References: <315EA17D.2877@ccsnet.com> Burt Fisher (k1oik@ccsnet.com) wrote: : : you use the ham radio to play the Wizard of Oz : -- : Good analogy! Nate. From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:58 1996 From: bob@texas.net (Bob) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: ARO's suck Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 17:19:48 GMT Message-ID: <4jm7nu$l16@news2.texas.net> References: <9603252153.S152062467@clubhouse.email.net> clueless129@clubhouse.email.net wrote: >I must confess that at various times in my life I have toyed with >the idea of becomming an amateur radio operator. Even went so far >as to obtain a copy of the morse code and commence to memorize it. >I always soon gave up with it as a waste of time. Listening to >real-life hams I realized just how boring and empty your lives >are. All you ever talk about is themselves and how much you paid >for your equipment. Whats the sense in memorizing morse code when >it is outmoded? Why force people to pass a radio theory test when >they never build or fix their own equipment? All ARO's do is go >down to their local store and tell the man behind the counter to >give them the most expensive gear he has so they can boast >on-the-air about how much it costs. When it breaks they just post >an ad to rec.radio.swap and sell it to some unsuspecting dufus who >thinks he is getting something that works and then they go out and >buy something even more expensive to boast about. At least Hams >only cheat each other and not honest people. I can respect CB'ers >who are involved in community work and highway assistance. Hams >are nothing but loosers. Who cares how many kilowatts of power you >can run or how many countries you talk to? Its all "me....me...me" >with you loosers. What a gaggle of clowns. Hmmmmm. Clueless here sure knows a LOT about the hobby to be an outsider! I think Clueless (good name...it fits well!!) used nearly every cliche topic from the top twenty "Chicken Little - the Band is Falling" list. CW testing, appliance operatin', QRO vs QRP, etc etc. I think Clueless already has a ticket and maybe his wife divorced him and took all his money and now he can't afford to play with the big boys any more. Or he so pissed off the local 2m group that Clueless isn't invited to play in the reindeer games there, so he opted for a change in venue for his Clueless banter. Or maybe he's jaded after having played the role of the unsuspecting dufus in a rec.radio.amateur.swap deal one time too many. One can only imagine the real motivation for this line of mindless trolling drivel. I have read that use of the Freudian slip "looser" when you really meant "loser" has something to do with latent male homosexuality. And of course the root word for "gaggle" is "gag"....hmmmm maybe I'm onto something here. But, the saving grace, he still has his account at AOL!! Bob From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:10:59 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: oddjob@cix.compulink.co.uk ("Stephen Walters") Subject: Re: HF sucks! Message-ID: References: <4jhnd3$mr6@news1.goodnet.com> Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 17:21:45 GMT In my opinion, this brown nosing is pointless. First of all, If you consider Ham radio, in particular, contesting, as a sport, as well as hobby then some interesting analogies can be made. CW will still be used for the die hards and contesters. CW will remain a favourite of contesters on all bands for many years with it's 14db advantage over voice. What the pro-CW people seem to forget is that ham has a contribution to make, code or no-code. I am G7VFY, a UK, radio ham with no CW, and therefore, a 'B' licensee with no access to the HF amateur bands. However, I do have an HF rig, for us with my transverter and world wide communication IS NOT A PROBLEM with these modes. IT IS, IN MY OPINION, THAT 90% OF ALL THE ACHIEVEMENTS AND NEW DEVELOPMENTS IN AMATEUR RADIO ARE BEING DONE 50MHz AND ABOVE, OR, MORE LIKELY 1.2GHz AND ABOVE. Chatting to someone on ssb or cw on the other side of the planet on HF requires minimal skills. This is simply not the case with VHF/UHF/SHF. Hams doing Meteor scatter or moon bounce with 1000wpm CW is a considable achievement, performed by SKILLED AND DEDICATED enthusiasts who, for the most, have left HF as there is no challenge to it! I would consider using a 150 year method of communication like a Morse Code merely a method of preserving a private club. I does not make you a better ham, Perhaps there should be exams for Packet radio, SlowscanTV, RTTY, AMTOR, FastscanTV, Meteor scatter and E-M-E/moon bounce? After all morse is only a manual skill, akin to juggling or card play?! I will not cry with the passing of CW. This progress is why we don't use semaphore or spark-gap transmitters. Hail the new age..... Regards Steve G7VFY. From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:11:00 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc From: oddjob@cix.compulink.co.uk ("Stephen Walters") Subject: Re: Transverter ,hf rig problem Message-ID: References: <4jkoon$k51@nuacht.iol.ie> Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 17:21:47 GMT Sounds like you have a grounding problem...you have too much RF flying around. 1. Make sure you equipment is WELL earthed. 2. Make sure RF is not getting into your mains/power supply. 3. Make sure your antenna is fitted with some kind of balun so that it's the antenna that does the radiating and not your feed cable. Steve G7VFY. From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:11:01 1996 From: myers@West.Sun.COM (Dana Myers) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy Subject: Re: Appropriate newsgroup for CW requirement discussion Date: 31 Mar 1996 17:56:21 GMT Message-ID: <4jmh05$4u2@abyss.West.Sun.COM> References: <4j73hm$f9@abyss.West.Sun.COM> <4jkhmi$b90@news.mcn.net> In article <4jkhmi$b90@news.mcn.net>, Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL wrote: >In article <4j73hm$f9@abyss.West.Sun.COM>, > myers@West.Sun.COM (Dana Myers) wrote: >> >>Not to play the heavy-handed Net.Cop, but rec.radio.amateur.policy >>is the appropriate newsgroup for discussion of the CW requirement. >>If you don't believe me, have a look at the charter of the newsgroups. >> > >Anything having to do with the future of amateur radio can be discussed in an y >amateur radio newsgroup(IMHO). Then why have the topical newsgroups of the Usenet at all? It rather amazes me that radio amateurs will readily ignore the self-policing policies of the Usenet and yet think they should have more enforcement power from the FCC in the amateur context. Either we understand and respect self-policing, or we don't. -- * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are mine and should * * (310) 348-6043 | not be interpreted or represented as * * Dana.Myers@West.Sun.Com | those of Sun Microsystems, Inc. * From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:11:02 1996 From: jackl@pinetree.microserve.com (WB3U) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy Subject: Re: QRO Merchants Date: Sun, 31 Mar 96 22:11:51 GMT Message-ID: <4jn0c8$7q2@crash.microserve.net> References: <1996Mar30.144253.16065@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <1996Mar31.173133.21027@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) wrote: >We seem to give inordinate credit to the operator *transmitting* >QRP, but seem to ignore the operator *receiving* QRP. That's a very good point. When I call CQ and a QRP station answers, I'm the one who ends up doing all the work. That's especially true if my amplifier is on, because it seems to encourage replies from stations that are practically buried in the noise. I'm not big on constests (as if you didn't know), but crediting operators for working a QRP station, in addition to a more moderate credit for being QRP, would seem more logical and equitable all the way around. I'll bet the QRP boys would rack up some pretty big scores with a plan like that, in addition to working more stations! >Most any idiot can copy a QRO signal Unless it's QRQ. ;) 73, Jack WB3U From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:11:04 1996 From: vbook@vbook.com (Ed Mitchell) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,sci.electronics,rec.radio.pirates Subject: April edition, Ham Radio Online is now available Date: 31 Mar 1996 23:33:52 GMT Message-ID: <4jn4p0$phg@news.accessone.com> The April edition of Ham Radio Online magazine is now available at http://www.accessone.com/~vbook or http://www.accessone.com/~vbook/hronline.htm This month features original stories on packet radio path quality, spread spectrum communications, more information on making your own solar observations, gettin g started in shortwave listening and an amazing list of hidden or not so hidden renditions of Morse code in popular music. We will be adding more stories over the coming weeks - this is a dynamic magazine with upates appearing as often as daily. As usual, Ham Radio Online also features Amateur radio newsletters from around the world, real-time ionospheric propagation reports, real-time aurora conditions, real-time MUF calculations, real-time earthquake and severe weather reports an d so much more. Stop and by and enjoy. We are free - and free of ads too - your stories are always welcome at Ham Radio Online. Thanks and 73, Ed and Kim Mitchell, KF7VY and N7VPL ------------------------ Ed (KF7VY) and Kim (N7VPL) Mitchell personal email to vbook@vbook.com Visit Ham Radio Online, it's free! at http://www.accessone.com/~vbook/hronline.htm From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:11:05 1996 From: Mike Gathergood Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: Need email add for Rev George at GQRP Date: Sun, 31 Mar 96 23:53:12 GMT Message-ID: <828316392snz@g4kfk.demon.co.uk> References: <4jgoht$hnc@madeline.INS.CWRU.Edu> Reply-To: Mike@g4kfk.demon.co.uk In article <4jgoht$hnc@madeline.INS.CWRU.Edu> dl278@cleveland.Freenet.Edu "William J. Graham" writes: > can someone provide the email add fro Rev George Dobbs > of GQRP? g3rjv@gqrp.demon.co.uk 73 Mike The CQ Centre BBS, 01753 595468, 300-28800 bps, 8N1, ANSI-BBS G4KFK Tel/Fax Slough (01753) 582085