The World of Ham Radio CD-ROM From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:15:35 1996 From: n4zo@gnn.com (DM McNeal) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: HF Packet. Is it worth setting up? Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 23:17:29 Message-ID: <4hj3rl$5bg@news-e2b.gnn.com> References: <96030118065@tmh.org> You mean there are actual QSO`s going on on HF packet ? From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:15:36 1996 From: dg5ffa@gw.ra3apw.ampr.ORG Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Packet-Radio Soft for Mac ? Date: 4 Mar 96 11:18:09 GMT Message-ID: <5150@gw.ra3apw.ampr.org> Hello,in which FTP-Serveers can I get PR-Soft for Mac ? Pse E-Mail to: dg5ffa@gw.ra3apw.ampr.org From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:15:36 1996 From: ian david robins Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: help !!!! anbody got a packet modem cct Date: Sun, 03 Mar 1996 15:20:31 GMT Message-ID: <374232262wnr@elec.demon.co.uk> Reply-To: ian@elec.demon.co.uk can anybody send or tell me where to find a simple packet modem circuit!!!! t.i.a thanks ian (G7WHJ) -- From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:15:37 1996 From: "Frank B. Leppla" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Help: Motorola Maxar 80 Radios Date: Wed, 06 Mar 1996 11:44:25 -0800 Message-ID: <313DEB19.791E@jpl.nasa.gov> Can these radios be used for 2M packet station? What problems might be encountered? Do you have a manual for a Maxar 80? Can I get a copy? ------------------------------------------------- Please email information to: frank.b.leppla@jpl.nasa.gov From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:15:38 1996 From: Steven Smith Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: 2.4 GHZ Bilateral Power Amp Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 16:07:13 -0800 Message-ID: Does anyone have info on a 2.4Ghz Bilateral Power Amp for Ham use. HyperAmp 2410 is exactly what I'm looking for, but the $3600 price is out of my hobby budget. Thanks in advance! From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:15:39 1996 From: Victor Morange Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Aprs setup Date: Mon, 04 Mar 1996 09:12:43 +0000 Message-ID: <313AB40B.7D07@ix.netcom.com> I have a KPC-3 and I need step by step instructions on how to set APRS. Can anyone please help? Tnx. 73 Victor Morange KO6ZK vmorange@ix.netcom.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:15:40 1996 From: fflynn@together.NET (Francis Flynn) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: TAI-CHI MASTER - 3/13 - PC THEATER Date: 7 Mar 96 00:56:05 GMT Message-ID: References: <2.2.32.19960306225013.00696540@mail.erinet.com> I just realised that I "CC'd" to a large number of lists. Please accept my apology. Sorry for the noise and use of bandwidth. http://together.net/~fflynn Francis Flynn, fflynn@together.net ARS:KM1Z From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:15:41 1996 From: richsnol@ix.netcom.com(Richard D. Gill ) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Window Packet Software for KAM+ ?? Date: 5 Mar 1996 07:20:48 GMT Message-ID: <4hgq0g$q69@cloner4.netcom.com> Hi..I am getting ready to buy a KAM+ TNC to replace my PK232.. My question is there any windows packet software that will alow dual port operation like the Kamtronics Host Master II software.??? I do not believe that Hostmaster II software will run under Windows..If I am incorrect about this please let me know....Thanks..73's Rich KQ6EF E-Mail richsnol@.ix.netcom.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:15:41 1996 From: cn1743@coastalnet.com (Louis Dupree) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: APRS Date: 2 Mar 1996 11:51:23 GMT Message-ID: <4h9cnr$a42@treasure.coastalnet.com> Where can I find the latest APRS? Thank you. Louis/W4NRG ldupree@coastalnet.com -- Louis Dupree 3015 Englewood Dr. Kinston, NC 28510 919 527 3519 From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:15:42 1996 From: bob.miles@zetnet.co.uk (Robert G Miles) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: HF Packet. Is it worth setting up? Date: Mon, 4 Mar 1996 00:05:15 GMT Message-ID: <4hdcct$2rn@irk.zetnet.co.uk> References: <96030118065@tmh.org> In message <96030118065@tmh.org> dick@tmh.ORG (Dick Mock) Agree Bob GM4CAQ From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:15:43 1996 From: grc@arn.NET (Scott\, G.R. \, Cundiff) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: THENET Docs? Date: 2 Mar 96 16:47:06 GMT Message-ID: <1.5.4b11.32.19960302164706.0066ff34@mailbox.arn.net> I am looking for a source of THENET documentation -- anyone know of any WWW sites, etc. where such might be found. Thanks in advance, Scott ================================================================== G.R. "Scott" Cundiff -- Borger, Texas Internet: grc@arn.net ham: N5ASD@N5ASD.#WTX.TX.USA.NOAM ================================================================== From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:15:44 1996 From: ke4cxt@usa.pipeline.com(Andy Smith) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: HF packet. Worth getting set up? Date: 6 Mar 1996 15:07:40 GMT Message-ID: <4hk9ns$ar@news1.usa.pipeline.com> References: <4hj513$3ea@acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us> A couple of years ago, when 10 meters was open, I could connect to an HF node in Palm Springs, CA and chat keyboard to keyboard with stations across the US. The connects wouldn't hold very long but HEY, it was digital radio. And that's all that matters :) Andy at Rome, GA ke4cxt@usa.pipeline.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:15:45 1996 From: larry@ (Larry Schroeder) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Adress for sending a Packet Message to Austria Date: 7 Mar 1996 13:45:17 GMT Message-ID: <4hmp9d$251s@ausnews.austin.ibm.com> Reply-To: lschroeder@vnet.ibm.com (Larry Schroeder) Hello all, I am looking for the correct codes to add to an address for a packett message I want to send to Vienna Austria. I need the city and country codes to add after the BBS callsign. Does anyone know the codes for Vienna and Austria? If you do please send me a email note to the address below or post it on this BBS. Thanks for the help. Larry Schroeder lschroeder@vnet.ibm.com KD4HSL From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:15:46 1996 From: zz951281@polar.etsiig.uniovi.es (Figaredo Martin, Alberto Ignac) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: 9k6 modem withou TNC, does it work? Message-ID: <1996Mar5.164052.7148@polar.etsiig.uniovi.es> Date: 5 Mar 96 16:40:52 +0100 Hi all! I have an plaque to build 9k6 Modem with no TNC, just like BAYCOMs. Has anyone tryed it? Does it work fine? TNXs 73s de EB1CFL & EC1AJY op. Alberto From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:15:47 1996 From: Jim Devenport Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: help !!!! anbody got a packet modem cct Date: Mon, 04 Mar 1996 11:11:19 -0700 Message-ID: <313B3247.31FA@lanl.gov> References: <374232262wnr@elec.demon.co.uk> To: ian@elec.demon.co.uk "Simple" packet modems require "complex" software to interface with them to accomplish the packet functions. Insofar as Digicom and Baycom are concerned you can always use the circuit in the "Packet Radio" section of my web page listed in my signature. -- |-------------------------------------------------------| |Jim Devenport WB5AOX | |All Standard Disclaimers Disclaimed | |My views rarely (if ever) reflect those of my employers| |HTTP://nis-www.lanl.gov/~jdport/ | |-------------------------------------------------------| From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:15:48 1996 From: stan@mutadv.com (Stan Huntting) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: KaWin 6.33 supports QRZ! cdrom Date: 2 Mar 1996 15:39:50 GMT Message-ID: <4h9q46$lbe@news-2.csn.net> KaWin Version 6.33 includes full support for the QRZ! Call Sign Database on CDROM. KaWin offers the only native MS Windows support for Kantronics TNCs in Host Mode. Download KaWin today from the KaWin Home Page below. -- Stan Huntting, KF0IA email: stan@mutadv.com fax: 303 444 2314 KaWin home page: http://www.mutadv.com/kawin/ KaWin FTP site: ftp.csn.net in the directory /kawin postal address: 4655 Pleasant Ridge Rd., Boulder, CO 80301-1731, USA From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:15:49 1996 From: asperges@innotts.co.uk (Jeremy Boot) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: WWW Pages Update Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 19:18:13 GMT Message-ID: <313c8848.7823449@news.innotts.co.uk> Reply-To: asperges@innotts.co.uk Updated and improved for March: http://www.innotts.co.uk/~asperges/ Still going strong. SWL Pages included. Lots of visitors worldwide to date. Keep 'em coming. Support your pages! 73 de Jeremy G4NJH asperges@innotts.co.uk [Home, Am Radio, SWL pages: http://www.innotts.co.uk/~asperges/ ] From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:15:49 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: kv9x@scn.org (Brian High) Subject: ETHRAX25.com ?? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 17:36:00 GMT Does anybody know where to get ETHRAX25.com?? I read July 1995 QST p. 39 and it says that I can use this driver with Mosaic and Winsock to browse the WEB via tcp/ip packet. There are a few other people I know looking for this. Please help us out. --Brian, KV9X -- ******************** Brian High ******************** * INTERNET: kv9x@scn.org PACKET: kv9x@kv9x.ampr.org * ******************************************************** From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:15:50 1996 From: Alain Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Tsthot and windows 95 Date: 4 Mar 1996 10:01:19 GMT Message-ID: <4hef1g$som@chleuasme.francenet.fr> Hello amateur radio all of the wolrd I'm using Tsthost and it doesn't work under windows 95 if somme one know how i can do for it's work under windwos 95 please send me e-mail thank you every body... José from Paris From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:15:51 1996 From: jillngus@slip.net () Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: APRS Date: Sat, 02 Mar 1996 20:26:52 GMT Message-ID: <4haatc$6ic@slip.net> References: <4h9cnr$a42@treasure.coastalnet.com> cn1743@coastalnet.com (Louis Dupree) wrote: >Where can I find the latest APRS? Thank you. Louis/W4NRG >ldupree@coastalnet.com >-- >Louis Dupree >3015 Englewood Dr. >Kinston, NC 28510 >919 527 3519 Try ftp://ftp.tapr.org/tapr/SIG/aprssig/upload/ Latest is APRS 7.5. Have fun. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:15:52 1996 From: Steve Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: APRS Date: 5 Mar 1996 13:04:37 GMT Message-ID: <4hhe55$3if@condor.ic.net> cn1743@coastalnet.com (Louis Dupree) writes: > Where can I find the latest APRS? Thank you. Louis/W4NRG > ldupree@coastalnet.com > > -- > Louis Dupree > 3015 Englewood Dr. > Kinston, NC 28510 > 919 527 3519 > ftp.tapr.org Think the sequence is tapr/SIG/aprssig/uploads Watch the caps for SIG. WINAPRS is under a sub-directory called WINAPRS. Latest DOS ver is 7.5 and WINAPRS is something like 2.05. 73 de N8NYU ssable@ic.net From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:15:53 1996 From: gfoley@freenet.columbus.oh.us (Gerard Foley) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: HF packet. Worth getting set up? Date: 5 Mar 1996 23:41:07 -0500 Message-ID: <4hj513$3ea@acme.freenet.columbus.oh.us> References: <4gfus2$58v@reader2.ix.netcom.com> <4hgmrs$36s@newsbf02.news.aol.com> MIKEHAACK (mikehaack@aol.com) wrote: : Take your TNC hook it up to your VHF rig for the DXCLUSTER. Take your HF : rig and Hook up via RTTY, Amtor, or Pactor, or give clover a try.. : Either way enjoy the Digital Modes.. Home to some of the Worlds : friendliest Hams.. And Great DX.. you can see the pileups.. : 73 de Mike, WB9B : : As one fellow ham said, the digital modes don't seem to bring out the animal in people! Gerry K8EF From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:15:54 1996 From: Charles Bolland Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.noncomm,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.swap Subject: Re: Stand Alone Broadcast Radio Station Database - LW,MW,SW Date: 2 Mar 1996 21:35:10 GMT Message-ID: <4haeue$fkb@news.flinet.com> References: <4gttsh$82a@detroit.freenet.org> <4gvda8$ou@Speedy.grolier.fr> To: chuck@flinet.com Friends, I'm still sending out the Stand Alone Broadcast Radio Station Database to whomever wants it. I would like your mailing address and Email address for registration and possibly a future letter describing a more comprehensive database program for radio. All information will be kept confidential.. Just answer this posting to "chuck@flinet.com". The database has more than 4,000 records already and can be edited and updated. Hope to hear from you. Chuck KA4PRF From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:15:55 1996 From: kavman@gate.net (Joe Burnham) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: CP100 on packet or paktor Date: Sat, 02 Mar 1996 18:47:47 GMT Message-ID: <3138975d.1790060@news.gate.net> References: <1996Mar1.150946.11392@tijc02.uucp> eri316@tijc02.uucp (Ed Ingraham ) wrote: >Does anyone know how or if it is possible to make an >AEA CP-100 operate on either HF packet or paktor? > >Ed, WX4S YES, you can do AMTOR and PACTOR with appropriate software. I use BMKMULTY with my CP-1 to do everything except PACTOR (I don't have that module yet). I'm not aware of any software that will let you do PACKET with the CP-1/CP-100) I use the CP-1, which I ASSUME is the same thing as a CP-100. There is also a shareware program called PCTOR which will let you do AMTOR (only) with the CP-1. I've seen PCTOR on the Internet, but I don't remember where, at the moment... From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:15:56 1996 From: ron.hauger@sourcebbs.com (RON HAUGER) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: AEA PK-900 FAX reception? Message-ID: <8BBF446.036200026E.uuout@sourcebbs.com> Date: Sat, 02 Mar 96 18:14:00 -0500 Distribution: world Reply-To: ron.hauger@sourcebbs.com (RON HAUGER) On 03/01/96 BILL CROCKER wrote to ALL... BC> Windows, to allow reception of weather FAX's. It this the best way to BC> go, or a BC> re there better BC> alternatives? I'm almost sure Satellite Times magazine has ads for wefax software. RON.HAUGER@WARPDRV.COM*KC4KNA*VBARC*AMSAT*RTTY*PACKET*SWL*ATV HF+VHF WEFAX*TVRO*SCPC*FM2*EXTRATERRESTRIAL*WATCHEROFTHESKIES --- * OFFLINE 1.58 --- This message originated from: ---------- Selective Source BBS ------- Virginia Beach, Virginia ----- (804) 471 6776 From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:15:57 1996 From: arden@teleport.com (Arden Eby) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: TNC problems with Win95 install Date: Sun, 03 Mar 1996 03:56:34 GMT Message-ID: <4hb59e$qmc@maureen.teleport.com> References: <4h0isk$2od@news.wco.com> ecgallup@mlode.com (Ed Gallup) wrote: > When installing Windows 95, the install program interrogates all ports >to identify what's connected to them. I would suggest that you turn off >your TNC when installing Windows 95. It interrogated my KAM plus and >screwed it up. I had to do a hard reset to reactivate it. No big deal, >but who needs the headaches. It didn't have a problem with my AEA PK-232. In fact, a little doalog box appeared telling me that my PK-pakratt for windows would run but needed to be updated due to a it's custom menuing system. Arden ****************************************************************************** Arden Eby Internet: arden@teleport.com Packet Radio: KI7FG@KA7AGH.OR.USA.NA Homepage (Eby's Cyberscroll) http://www.teleport.com/~arden/ ****************************************************************************** From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:15:58 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: Dino Moriello Subject: North East Digital Association WEB PAGE Message-ID: <199603020538.AAA07787@Ocean.CAM.ORG> Date: Sat, 02 Mar 1996 05:39:09 GMT > > > Greetings, > > > > > > This is just a reminder about the > > > NEDA Web Page, dedicated to good packet networking at > > > > > > http://www.cam.org/~dino/neda/NEDA.html > > > > > > The web pages contain BUG reports, NEDA-recommended Node parameters, and > > > much more, including an ftp section with X1JR4 docs, software and NEDA > > > files in zipped format. > > > > > > Your comments are welcome. Thanks for dropping in. > > > -- +---------------------------------------------------------------+ | Dino Moriello Montreal, Quebec, CANADA | | Internet: dino@dino.qc.ca WWW: [http://www.cam.org/~dino/] | | dino@teleDM.com AX.25: ve2dm@ve2fkb | | ve2dm@amsat.org | +---------------------------------------------------------------+ From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:16:00 1996 From: mikehaack@aol.com (MIKEHAACK) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: HF packet. Worth getting set up? Date: 5 Mar 1996 01:27:07 -0500 Message-ID: <4hgmrs$36s@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <4gfus2$58v@reader2.ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: mikehaack@aol.com (MIKEHAACK) As To HF Packet... Packet is/was a protocol developed to operate in a clean High signal/Noise Ratio environment.. such as VHF/UHF frequncies.. And does so quite well. It is not and was not designed or intended for use in the evironment as provided by HF freq's. Its Attempted use at those freq's has been the cause of much "discussion" and all most an all out range war... The ARRL seemed for a while to be touting Packet as the new Mode of the Century.. That said.. Yes Ive Tried HF PACKET.. It can be very very slow with many retries.. Yes I operate The other Digital modes.. Including Clover Pactor Amtor and RTTY.. And Yes Im an ARRL member.. Take your TNC hook it up to your VHF rig for the DXCLUSTER. Take your HF rig and Hook up via RTTY, Amtor, or Pactor, or give clover a try.. Either way enjoy the Digital Modes.. Home to some of the Worlds friendliest Hams.. And Great DX.. you can see the pileups.. 73 de Mike, WB9B From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:16:01 1996 From: stan@mutadv.com (Stan Huntting) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Window Packet Software for KAM+ ?? Date: 5 Mar 1996 14:49:44 GMT Message-ID: <4hhka8$5fq@news-2.csn.net> References: <4hgq0g$q69@cloner4.netcom.com> In article <4hgq0g$q69@cloner4.netcom.com>, richsnol@ix.netcom.co says... >Hi..I am getting ready to buy a KAM+ TNC to replace my PK232.. >My question is there any windows packet software that will alow dual >port operation like the Kamtronics Host Master II software.??? Yes there is, Rich. KaWin is designed expressly for host mode Kantronics TNCs in MS Windows. Host mode is the magic bullet that opens up the dual port operation along with many other tricks of the Kantronics TNCs, and KaWin is th e only Windows program that supports their host mode. You may dowmload the FULL program (not a test version - but it does run with a nag meter until registered) right now from the KaWin Home Page below. GL es 73 , Stan -- Stan Huntting, KF0IA email: stan@mutadv.com fax: 303 444 2314 KaWin home page: http://www.mutadv.com/kawin/ KaWin FTP site: ftp://ftp.csn.net/kawin postal address: 4655 Pleasant Ridge Rd., Boulder, CO 80301-1731, USA From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:16:02 1996 From: Tim Deagan Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Newbie TexNet packet questions Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 10:54:06 -0600 Message-ID: <313C71AE.6094@thinkagain.com> I've got my packet station running here in Austin Tx. :-) I've been practicing the theory of listening before talking. I think I've found a TexNet node talking to folks. I haven't made a packet contact yet, and am about ready. I'd like to do something simple like check the weather or read bulletins, etc.. Is there a special SSID I need to connect to? Could someone post a brief of how a contact with a net node might go? Perhaps suggest a couple of activities for a newbie to try that won't cheese off the established users :-) Also, after the addr header, I occasionally get gibberish; W5SYT-15>N5IST:A SUGGESTION 0 W5SYT-15>N5IST:~ïq¸¼-æÿƒ»Þßà^Öp/\s References: <1867@gw.n5uxt.ampr.org> In article <1867@gw.n5uxt.ampr.org>, n5uxt@gw.n5uxt.ampr.ORG (Angelo Glorioso III) wrote: >Hi All! > > I heard there is a VHF Mailing list.. I am trying to find out info on it.. >Any help is apperciated!! OK, to subscribe post a message to: vhf-request@w6yx.stanford.edu With the body of the text reading: sub vhf stop You will receive the infomation for the list then and be subscribed: But the posting address is: vhf@w6yx.stanford.edu The purpose of the list is VHF, primarily weak-signal, other then EME (which has it's own list). But VHF contests also get a great deal of attention. At times the list is a little high volume for me, but I just ignore it then -- Ralph Lindberg N7BSN e-mail to dragonsl@scn.org (read daily) RV and Camping FAQ References: In article , les@rfx.rfx.com says... > >Does anybody have a rough idea of actual measued bytes/sec transfer rate >with a given packet setup ? What is the best expected rate for 9600 ? >19,2 ? 56 ? >I'm trying to gauge the actual speed for file transfers , rather than >latency for the connections when you hit CR when 'typing' to somebody. > >Les Dittert ,ALT Systems. Hollywood CA. >les@rfx.rfx.com >http://www.rfx.com/folks/les > >"Question MTV" I've run FTP through a non-ham packet radio network. At the time we believe we were getting typical channel throughputs of 20 to 25 kbps. The FTP throughput was about 17 kbps. Perhaps that ratio will help you. In packet radio links, there are many variables including other users of the channel, interference, rayleigh fading if either end is moving or something reflective in between is moving, etc. Ed, KF7VY ------------------------ personal email to vbook@vbook.com Visit Ham Radio Online, it's free, at http://www.accessone.com/~vbook/hronline.htm From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:16:05 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org (Rob Janssen) Subject: Re: Realtime compression ax25? Reply-To: pe1chl@wab-tis.rabobank.nl Message-ID: References: Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 09:35:54 GMT In nl1rea@cbpackhv.xs4all.NL writes: >In Holland, it is legal to use packet on 11 meters, as long as you don't >modify any tranceivers. Due to the used tranceivers, we can only use 1200 >baud packet. Also 11 meters isn't a good frequency to use higher >baudrates. >I was thinking to use realtime compression (lzh) to get a higher troughput >of bytes. I can use compression, because it is legal. It is not encryption. >Many stations in Holland use TFPCX together with the baycom-modem. It is >possible to send 256-character-strings to the interface. Using >lzh-compression, we still can send these strings to the interface, but >thanks to the compression the actual througput is bigger. Of course you can do that, when you have the software for it. Some packages offer compression. However, you will probably be disappointed with the results. Text you type online can probably be compressed well, but is low in volume anyway. When you want to transfer some file, you can use LHA or PKZIP to compress it first, and the online compression will no longer improve things. Mailbox forwarding protocols also use compression already, so their performance is not going to improve either. To get to higher speeds, you will need to get an amateur radio license and experiment with faster modems on UHF/SHF bands. Rob -- +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ | Rob Janssen rob@knoware.nl | BBS: +31-302870036 (2300-0730 local) | | AMPRnet: rob@pe1chl.ampr.org | AX.25 BBS: PE1CHL@PI8WNO.#UTR.NLD.EU | +------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+ From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 07 10:16:08 1996 From: jaminge@pb2esac.esac.pacbell.com (John Minger) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: 2-Meter Handhelds ~= Amateur Cellular? Date: 3 Mar 1996 22:33:31 GMT Message-ID: <4hd6nr$m16@gw.PacBell.COM> References: <1996Mar1.123542.20754@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> In article <1996Mar1.123542.20754@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, Gary Coffman wrote: >In article bsanders@n csa.uiuc.edu (Barry Sanders) writes: >>Please pardon my starry-eyed naivete and dream along with me, if you will... >> >>What I'd like to know is this: What sort of testbeds or infrastructures >>are in place (anywhere) that allow for hand-held radio xcvr's to be used >>for anything even remotely resembling cellular-like service? What I mean >>by this is: >> >>* Origination of telephone (POTS) calls through local repeater(s). > >We have this, it's called a phone patch. Not every repeater has one, >but many do. > [ edited ... ] > >More important perhaps, most repeaters are independently owned and >operated. Getting the *political* cooperation to form them into >a single network is a daunting challenge. Most repeaters are established >to serve as group gathering places, waterholes in effect, where the >supporters of the machine gather to converse. Most repeaters are not >operated primarily as cellular phone substitutes. > If you want to see such a (mis?)-use of the amateur spectrum, just take a gander at the 440 band in good old Southern California. If you monitor some of those closed repeaters (about 95% or more of frequency allocation) you will hear mostly silence, interrupted occasionally by telephone autopatch calls. Let's hope the coming PCS micro cellular systems will make it so easy to make our mobil phone calls, that we can reclaim the amateur 440 band here for amateur radio uses. Ham radio is a pretty poor substitute for a cellular phone, and of course visa versa. How the heck did our 440 band get like this? How can it stay this way? Is somebody making a buck here with defacto commercial use of the band? Owch! Just got a splinter from my soap-box. Durn... -73 de John KE6DTC -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- John Minger Interests: Genealogy, Amateur Radio KE6DTC@K6VE.#SOCA.CA.USA.NOAM, TCP/IP: 44.16.1.240 - ke6dtc.ampr.org ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:19:17 1996 From: jfsawyer@freewave.com (Jonathan sawyer) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: 2.4 GHZ Bilateral Power Amp Date: Thu, 07 Mar 96 04:02:21 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <4hlu5s$18f@news-2.csn.net> References: Steven Smith wrote: > >Does anyone have info on a 2.4Ghz Bilateral Power Amp for Ham use. >HyperAmp 2410 is exactly what I'm looking for, but the $3600 price is out >of my hobby budget. > >Thanks in advance! Steven FreeWave Technologies makes 900 MHz bilateral power amplifiers that are better than HyperLink at lower cost. We hope to introduce our line of 2400 MHz amps in 6 0 days. Rest assured our amps will be far lower in cost than $3600. Jonathan Sawyer FreeWave Technologies From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:19:18 1996 From: tom_boza@ccm.ch.intel.com (WB7ASR) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: 4-Sale, 1200 baud PSK moden Date: 6 Mar 1996 16:32:47 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <4hkenf$vkm@chnews.ch.intel.com> I have the TAPR 1200 baud PSK modem for the PK-232. Excellent condition, fully functional. Complete with manual and I will ship $50 US/Canada, west of the Mississippi river $55 US/Canada, east of the Mississippi river $50 plus shipping cost international WB7ASR... tom_boza@ccm.ch.intel.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:19:19 1996 From: ebertrem@curis.gatelink.fr.net (Eric Bertrem) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: 9k6 modem withou TNC, does it work? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 09 Mar 96 12:12:36 +0100 References: <1996Mar5.164052.7148@polar.etsiig.uniovi.es> <4hnemc$ksk@tuegate.tue.nl> Reply-To: ebertrem@curis.gatelink.fr.net > Figaredo Martin, Alberto Ignac (zz951281@polar.etsiig.uniovi.es) wrote: > > I have an plaque to build 9k6 Modem with no TNC, just > like BAYCOMs. Has anyone tryed it? Does it work fine? > TNXs Try the BayCom 9600 Baud Modem, called PAR 96. It works fine, is connected on your LPT port, and can use TFX-PAR (a TFPCX-like driver), PC/FlexNet or BayCom 1.60. There's only one limit : no full-duplex, half-duplex only ! 73s ***************************************************************************** * Eric BERTREM * French RMNC/FlexNet & PC/FlexNet * * AX25 : F5PJE @ F6BIG.FRHA.FRA.EU * support : BPQ and Net/Wrong are * * Email : ebertrem@curis.gatelink.fr.net * prehistory :-) * ***************************************************************************** From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:19:20 1996 From: David Mercer Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: AX.25 under Solaris??? Date: Mon, 04 Mar 1996 11:48:41 -0500 Message-ID: <313B1EE9.46EA@sofkin.ca> Has anybody out there ever run AX.25 under Solaris? I have seen code to run it under SunOS 4.1.x but none for Solaris. Any pointers would be appreciated. DAve -- David Mercer, PEng | Software Kinetics Limited | 65 Iber Road | Shut up brain or I'll stab you Stittsville, Ontario, Canada | with a Q-tip K2S 1E7 | | --Homer Simpson Ph. (613) 831-0888 | Fax (613) 831-1836 | EMail dmercer@sofkin.ca | From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:19:20 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: hansen@ee.ucla.edu (Christopher J Hansen) Subject: DSP Prototype Boards Message-ID: Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 03:39:32 GMT I am interested in vendors of prototype boards with DSP chips. Any recommendations for a board with the TMS320C32 DSP or a similar Motorola part? Thanks, Chris Hansen, KQ6DW From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:19:21 1996 From: Adriano Sgarbi Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew Subject: ELECTRONIC TESTING EQUIPMENTS Date: Fri, 08 Mar 1996 10:52:19 +0100 Message-ID: <31400353.2B14@datas.it> ELECTRONIC TESTING EQUIPMENTS at http://www.datas.it/~aea/ From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:19:22 1996 From: XE2MXU/N5UHB Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: em1200m2 emulator??? Date: Sat, 2 Mar 1996 17:16:39 -0600 Message-ID: Hello all, I am looking for the "em1200m2 emulator" (or something like that). I saw a packet bulletin a few days ago saying that this emulator can used along with the baycom program to run packet with the *hamcomm* interface. Anyway, I haven't been able to find the emulator mentioned above, and I would appreciate it if anyone can provide any information on where to find it... thanks in advance, Luis F. Orozco XE2MXU/N5UHB ___ Larrabee's Law -> 'Half of everything you hear in a classroom is crap. Education is figuring out which half is which.' "....The truth IS out there..." --The X-Files From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:19:23 1996 From: Dave Maciorowski Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: ETHRAX25.com ?? Date: 7 Mar 1996 13:56:22 GMT Message-ID: <4hmpu6$6gb@cloner3.netcom.com> References: To: kv9x@scn.org,(Brian,High) kv9x@scn.org (Brian High) wrote: > >Does anybody know where to get ETHRAX25.com?? I read July 1995 QST >p. 39 and it says that I can use this driver with Mosaic and Winsock to >browse the WEB via tcp/ip packet. > >There are a few other people I know looking for this. Please help us out. > >--Brian, KV9X TAPR maintains an extensive software library of everything to do with packet/digital. See http://www.tapr.org ETHRAX25 is in the software library at: ftp://ftp.tapr.org/tapr/software_lib/tcpip ----- Dave Maciorowski, WA1JHK Colorado Repeater Association, Inc. Serving Colorado with Voice and Data, 6-Meters to 1.2 Gig Internet: wa1jhk@ix.netcom.com or wa1jhk@amsat.org CRA: http://www.rmsd.com/hamradio/cra/ From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:19:24 1996 From: ostbahn@ostbahn.seanet.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: FS: Universal M-900 Date: 7 Mar 1996 18:38:59 GMT Message-ID: <4hnag3$4pb@kaleka.seanet.com> For Sale: Universal M-900 decoder RTTY 45 50 74 Sitor A and B Morse Fax to printer $135 plus shipping from Seattle From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:19:25 1996 From: bfleet@mbl.edu (Betchy) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Help with TCPIP Date: Wed, 06 Mar 1996 07:27:49 -0400 Message-ID: I have all the software for TCPIP operation, it was configured for my call and equip., but have no instructions on how to invoke the program. I understand your tnc needs to be in the KISS mode, but what executable invokes the program? Any input appreciated. bfleet@mbl.edu From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:19:27 1996 From: Andy Walton Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: HELP-Packet drivers,Ethernet,AX25,JNOS/KA9Q Questions Date: 8 Mar 1996 05:09:39 GMT Message-ID: <4hofej$1ec@foxhound.dsto.gov.au> G,day all, Since I'm posting this to several unrelated groups, please forgive m e if I appear to make things over-clear as to what I w= ant to do. I use several Pc's hooked together using 10Mbps Ethernet so as to run my ham radio packet software . My ham radio gear is out in a = shed which is probably fairly normal for most hams, however is condidered slig htly anti-social by the rest of the family. The idea i= s to use a terminal inside the house,(read not anti-social!). I use a "Baycom" style modem that does the audio encoding/decoding, and the ax-25 packet processing is done inside the host pc, th= at is the pc is the TNC(terminal node controller). There are several programme s that enable one to do this namely BAYCOM using L2 as= its ax25 interface, Graphic packet or TPK using TFPCX, or one of the many var iants of KA9Q NOS using ax25.com packet driver.(ie JNO= S) I can currently set up the host PC as a TNC and run TELNETD, so I can telnet to it from another machine using NCSA Telnet(for DOS).= The setup procedure at present is to run TELNETD on the host(using one of the ethernet packet drivers),and establish connection on = the client,(that is the host keyboard and screen are somewhat replicated remot ely, 24 lines, no colour or screen attributes). I then= load up the ax25 packet driver on and start Ka9Q NOS on the TELNETD server and off I go. That is the host has two packet drivers = running simultaneously, The ethernet driver for TELNETD and an AX25 driver for KA9Q NOS. What I would really like to do would be to run the ax25 packet driver on the PC in the ham radio shack, have the ax25 packets route= d up the ethernet cable to to remote PC, and run NOS on the remote PC by means of attaching an ethernet packet driver to it instead = of the ax25 packet driver. I have looked at the Simtel collection and there are two programmes that at f irst instance may appear to do the job but in fact won= 't. The first is PC Bridge abut that requires a specific type of ethernet card (Western digital) which I do not own. It effectivley c= onfigures a pc as a bridge. The second program is PC Route which is an ip rout er. You can attach the packet drivers to it, However, = it does its routing based on the i/p address embedded inside each packet. The only trouble with standard ax25 is there is no ip addr= ess, so we have to rule this one out as well. Believe me, it don't work. What I THINK (???) I need is a bridge that can use packet d= rivers. I have never programmed in C, and am verrry rusty at assembler. Is anyone abl e to offer some suggestions as to how to bridge two pa= cket drivers together on a PC ????? Would it possible to use KA9Q/JNOS as digi peater at the radio end and use KA9Q/JNOS at the remot= e end using the AX25 packet driver for ethernet?? Any ideas would be welcomed Regards Andy Walton, VK3CAH From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:19:28 1996 From: Andy Walton Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking,aus.radio.amateur.digital Subject: HELP-Packet drivers,Ethernet,AX@%,JNOS/KA9Q Questions Date: 8 Mar 1996 05:16:37 GMT Message-ID: <4hofrl$1ec@foxhound.dsto.gov.au> G,day all, Since I'm posting this to several unrelated groups, please forgive m e if I appear to make things over-clear as to what I w= ant to do. I use several Pc's hooked together using 10Mbps Ethernet so as to run my ham radio packet software . My ham radio gear is out in a = shed which is probably fairly normal for most hams, however is condidered slig htly anti-social by the rest of the family. The idea i= s to use a terminal inside the house,(read not anti-social!). I use a "Baycom" style modem that does the audio encoding/decoding, and the ax-25 packet processing is done inside the host pc, th= at is the pc is the TNC(terminal node controller). There are several programme s that enable one to do this namely BAYCOM using L2 as= its ax25 interface, Graphic packet or TPK using TFPCX, or one of the many var iants of KA9Q NOS using ax25.com packet driver.(ie JNO= S) I can currently set up the host PC as a TNC and run TELNETD, so I can telnet to it from another machine using NCSA Telnet(for DOS).= The setup procedure at present is to run TELNETD on the host(using one of the ethernet packet drivers),and establish connection on = the client,(that is the host keyboard and screen are somewhat replicated remot ely, 24 lines, no colour or screen attributes). I then= load up the ax25 packet driver on and start Ka9Q NOS on the TELNETD server and off I go. That is the host has two packet drivers = running simultaneously, The ethernet driver for TELNETD and an AX25 driver for KA9Q NOS. What I would really like to do would be to run the ax25 packet driver on the PC in the ham radio shack, have the ax25 packets route= d up the ethernet cable to to remote PC, and run NOS on the remote PC by means of attaching an ethernet packet driver to it instead = of the ax25 packet driver. I have looked at the Simtel collection and there are two programmes that at f irst instance may appear to do the job but in fact won= 't. The first is PC Bridge abut that requires a specific type of ethernet card (Western digital) which I do not own. It effectivley c= onfigures a pc as a bridge. The second program is PC Route which is an ip rout er. You can attach the packet drivers to it, However, = it does its routing based on the i/p address embedded inside each packet. The only trouble with standard ax25 is there is no ip addr= ess, so we have to rule this one out as well. Believe me, it don't work. What I THINK (???) I need is a bridge that can use packet d= rivers. I have never programmed in C, and am verrry rusty at assembler. Is anyone abl e to offer some suggestions as to how to bridge two pa= cket drivers together on a PC ????? Would it possible to use KA9Q/JNOS as digi peater at the radio end and use KA9Q/JNOS at the remot= e end using the AX25 packet driver for ethernet?? Any ideas would be welcomed Regards Andy Walton, VK3CAH From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:19:30 1996 From: nielsen@primenet.com (Bob Nielsen) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Help: Motorola Maxar 80 Radios Date: 6 Mar 1996 15:50:01 -0700 Message-ID: <4hl4qp$5a4@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <313DEB19.791E@jpl.nasa.gov> "Frank B. Leppla" wrote: >Can these radios be used for 2M packet station? >What problems might be encountered? Do you have a >manual for a Maxar 80? Can I get a copy? >------------------------------------------------- >Please email information to: >frank.b.leppla@jpl.nasa.gov I am not sure how the Maxar 80 varies from the straight Maxar, but Maxars are probably a fairly good radio for 1200 baud packet. I am in the process of converting a Moxy (very similar) for uhf, but haven't fired it up yet.. I would expect some work would be needed on the i.f. filtering for 9600, however. The manual should be available from your local Motorola service facility. Bob From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:19:30 1996 From: richard@dalston.ftech.co.uk (richard lyder) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: help; digital if's Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 02:58:51 GMT Message-ID: <31439458.2022063@news.ftech.net> can any body please help me. I am interested in designing a digital if for an h.f. transceiver and I am looking for any reference books available on the subject. If any one knows of a suitable source of books please let me know. Please e. mail me at lyder@dalston.ftech.co.uk From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:19:31 1996 From: dbuffton@msn.com (Debora Buffington) Subject: Re: HF Packet. Is it worth setting up? Date: 10 Mar 96 20:56:41 -0800 References: <96030118065@tmh.org> <4hj3rl$5bg@news-e2b.gnn.com> Message-ID: <00001fec+00001460@msn.com> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc On HF, the main qso modes are Pactor and RTTY (Pactor is the most active) Most or all of the HF packet you hear is automated forwarding. It isn't a very good mode for HF, and few folks bother live qsos on HF packet. Roger, Ab6wr From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:19:32 1996 From: davidc@scoot.NETis.COM (David, Michaela & Benjamin) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Internet HF Remote Control Date: 9 Mar 96 00:42:16 GMT Message-ID: <01BB0D28.CFB020E0@dns.netis.com.198.186.186.2> Ok you incredibly creative Hams out there, help me solve this one! Since I moved, our Club station is too far away for a price-reasonable = phone link, and touch-and-go for a 440 link, so ... how about the = Internet? The Club site is many times superior to my home site and I need a more = reliable station QTH for missionary & emergency skeds & activities. My home QTH is too low for a UHF or microwave link, though I could = arrange a phone connect to another ham's hilltop QTH and a radio link = from there ... but that seems too "old-tech". If we can make a voice call and transfer digital data at the same time = over the Internet, why can't I use the digital channel for control info = & still do the voice? I have no idea what sort of Internet account the Club station would = need, but I'm sure we could find a way to do it ... I assume a Web site. Sure, the voice won't be studio quality, but it should be communication = quality. The cable system and other methods are promising huge bandwidth access = real soon. Someone please surprise me and tell me it has already been done, and how = ... or that you are in the process of setting up such a link now. = Help! 73, David AA1FA From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:19:33 1996 From: jtg@intac.com (John Gubernard) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Landline Modems Date: 8 Mar 1996 22:19:25 GMT Message-ID: <4hqbpd$r37@uucp.intac.com> I am looking for some duplex 9600 baud modems to connect to the RS-232 port of a TNC and go to either a 2 wire or 4 wire circuit telephone line. Thanks, John K2LSX jtg@intac.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:19:34 1996 From: a032623t@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us (Kris Cordova) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Looking for Information about Dentron Linear Date: 6 Mar 1996 20:10:57 GMT Message-ID: <4hkrgh$718@news.seflin.lib.fl.us> -- Kris Cordova a032623t@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:19:35 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: john@wd1v.mv.com (John Seney) Subject: Re: Looking for Information about Dentron Linear Message-ID: Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 10:36:46 GMT References: <4hkrgh$718@news.seflin.lib.fl.us> In article <4hkrgh$718@news.seflin.lib.fl.us>, a032623t@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us (Kris Cordova) wrote: > -- > > Kris Cordova > a032623t@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us I have heard that Dentron went out of business and that the original owner then started another amp company called AMP Supply and that it too went out of business. Assuming that is true, there are a finite number of Dentron amps. I've owned one before and it worked very well. But today, a problem could be replacement parts. Enough were sold where one could get schematics easy enough. 73, John D. Seney |_|_|_|_| E-mail: john@wd1v.mv.com 144 Pepperidge Drive |_| |_| WWW http://www.mv.com/ipusers/wd1v Manchester, NH 03103-6150 |_|_ _|_| Skytel Page: 5956779@skymail.com VM + Auto-Pager: 603-533-3472 | | | | | AX.25: wd1v@wb1dsw.nh.usa.noam LeCroy Sales Engineer + Applications/Sales/Customer Service + 800-553-2769 [See Latest Digital Scope.FAQ on my Home Page] We must believe in free will. We have no choice. (I.B. Singer) From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:19:37 1996 From: SKORIC@uns.ns.ac.YU (Miroslav Skoric, B.Sc.) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Modems and ham rules Date: 8 Mar 96 15:04:03 GMT Message-ID: <960308170403.27e2@uns.ns.ac.yu> Hello folks, Here you have a couple of questions to answer: 1. Me and the other hams here still have some difficulties with phone modem port on FBB bbs software. Now, we have established succesfull and reliable (?) link to bbs, I mean: CONNECT 2400 MNP5 etc etc, BUT, after a 1-30 mins of list, read, write etc activities in bbs, an user recognize that nothing he/she types on the keyboard goes to the bbs and vice-versa. Interesting is that he/she is still on-line but nothing happening. After the hang-up done, an user must wait for 10-15 mins before calling bbs again. If wait only 1' then gets BUSY, if wait 5' then gets CONNECT... but nothing else (call and password asking, welcome msg, prompt...). We entered this problem when got upgraded from 286 to 386 PC and tried several internal/external modems at various speeds, MNP and V.42 features, but every user finishes the seanse before he/she wants. Any opinion? 2. We are preparing our annual conference in the YU7 ham union. One of the points will be a regulative in our no-code class, called "E" class. I want to know how it is your no-code class (if any) permitted to work digital modes, max power and qrg's. All replies will be re-replied, most interesting and usefull will be granted a qsl card and a booklet from here! * Note your surface mail address! * 73 de Misko, YT7MPB, info manager in SRV Amateur radio union of Vojvodina, Trg Mladenaca 10, 21000 Novi Sad, Yugoslavia. From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:19:38 1996 From: lars.friberg@helsingborg.se (Lars Friberg) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Need help scanning with ft757gx + kam Date: Sun, 10 Mar 1996 17:52:02 GMT Message-ID: <4hv4vp$ql@news.helsingborg.se> Hi !Were can i find software to get my yaesu ft757gx + kam v7.1e scanning different freq? Planning to work a smaller bbs here. 73:s Lasse (SM7OYP) From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:19:40 1996 From: paulot@cais.com (Paulo Teixeira,N3MGA) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Need Icom Icom IC-22 mic pin assignment Date: Mon, 04 Mar 1996 09:04:15 -0500 Message-ID: I'm trying to help a friend overseas on how to hook up a TNC to the microphone plug on a Icom IC 22 radio.I just need the configuration of this plug,I believe the audio part is covered by a mini-plug. Any info would be apreciated,reply to e-mail preferred -- "Freedom of speech is the right to shout THEATRE! in a crowded fire" a yippie proverb From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:19:41 1996 From: Parker Kent <100654.646@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave Subject: Need Radio Clock Info. Date: 6 Mar 1996 22:00:19 GMT Message-ID: <4hl1tj$90r$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> I need any information I can get in reguards to the radio signals sent from Germany across Europe giving time information for Radio Clocks. Thanks, Parker Kent From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:19:42 1996 From: rcoxadv@xnet.com (Ralph Cox) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: NET_Mac2.3.58.sea.hqx.text Date: Sun, 03 Mar 1996 23:11:02 -0600 Message-ID: References: <199602190802.JAA07624@iag.tno.nl> In article , bpineda@why.net (Bernie Pineda) wrote: >In article <199602190802.JAA07624@iag.tno.nl>, adam@iag.tno.NL (Adam van >Gaalen PA2AGA) wrote: > >> >> The Netherlands, February 19, 199 6. >> Hello dear reader, >> >> NET/Mac v2.3.58 was born... >> >> For those who don't know NET/Mac... NET/Mac is the application that >> supports TCP/IP over packet-radio, which means, that hamradio operators >> can use NET/Mac for their wireless TCP/IP network... >> > >i tried editing the setup file with simpletext and wordperfect but it >wouldn't recognise my edits...please help. thanks. > >-- Try sending an email message to adam@iag.tno.NL (Adam van Gaalen PA2AGA) and tell him exactly which setup files you are having problems with. He is very helpful in answering any questions with NetMac. Jon Peterson N9OUM From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:19:43 1996 From: adam@iag.tno.NL (Adam van Gaalen PA2AGA) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: NET_Mac2.3.59.sea.hqx.text Date: 6 Mar 96 14:26:31 GMT Message-ID: <199603061426.PAA05739@iag.tno.nl> The Netherlands, March 6, 1996. Hello dear reader, NET/Mac v2.3.59 was born... For those who don't know NET/Mac... NET/Mac is the application that supports TCP/IP over packet-radio, which means, that hamradio operators can use NET/Mac for their wireless TCP/IP network... In this version of NET/Mac the following mods/features were implemented: - Implemented 'deadlock breaker' of K5JB - Make errormessages more helpful - Enhance mailfile-handling for shared spool:mqueue folders - Fix for 'smtp timer' command - NET/Mac does NOT support the new Buckmaster CD-ROM's HAMCALL database yet... I am trying to convince Buckmaster that I need the new data-encryption-method, but as of yet they are not ready to release a description of the encoding-algorithm... The old CD-ROM's remain fully supported... This version obsoletes all versions of info-mac/comm/radio-net-mac in the Sumex-Aim.stanford.edu (and it's mirror-) archives. The new NET/Mac has (hopefully) been uploaded to: - oak.oakland.edu, to the directory /pub/hamradio/mac/digital - ftp.ucsd.edu, to directory /hamradio/packet/tcpip/incoming. If it's not there (anymore), then look at /hamradio/packet/tcpip/mac. - hamster.business.uwo.ca, to directory /pub/amsoft - wa2zkd mirrors UCSD's incoming on his Landline BBS. Ham's w/o ftp can call 716-544-1863 or 2645. NET/Mac will be uploaded to PI1HVH.AMPR.ORG, directory public/mac. Adam PA2AGA e-mail: a.vangaalen@iag.tno.nl for mail to my office and BIG files or: pa2aga@iag.tno.nl for letters only, NO BIG files here From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:19:45 1996 From: destiny_software@mindlink.bc.ca (destiny admin) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy Subject: New Radio Program Date: 7 Mar 1996 00:38:04 GMT Message-ID: <4hlb5c$rns@fountain.mindlink.net> Destiny Software is a developer of video games like JAM! (shareware), Darkseed II and Blood Bowl. You can check out our WEB site at: http://www.destiny-software.com/destiny Now we're experimenting with RADIO! We have just successfully broadcast good quality music and speech over the internet (receiving with a 28 800 modem). (Our compression algorithm is much faster and better quality than others we've tried.) We plan to allow non-commercial users to broadcast for free, encouraging a wide variety of viewpoints in this new medium. Commercial users are welcome to participate in BETA testing. The compression is in real time on a 486, so we will support live broadcasts as soon as we finish the initial testing. So here's the scoop - we're looking for BETA testers. If you would like to become a broadcaster, you need: 1. A permanent IP address. 2. A dedicated machine (or permission to run background tasks) 3. You are either linked to the MBONE or you have a fast connection 4. If you are using a non-windows server, we may need access to your account to compile for your particular machine. Basically, you fill your hard drive with samples and a script file to organize playback. (The player will repeat the script when it finishes). Later we will upgrade so that broadcasters can go live by plugging a signal into a PC sound card. Listeners will enter your address into the radio program and voila, your broadcast will begin playing. The radio feature will be built into our soon to be released freeware browser. If you're interested, send email. Thanks! From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:19:46 1996 From: moore@teleport.com (Dustin Moore) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Nos compiles Date: Sat, 02 Mar 1996 22:09:47 GMT Message-ID: <4hagtl$gi1@maureen.teleport.com> Does anyone know where there is a ftp site with a array of jnos/mfnos/whatever compiles?..I'm trying to find one that will run in DesqView. I've heard that dumping the netrom part gains enough space. It would be handy to find one that also had the packetsdriver/BPQ interfaces. Dustin Moore moore@teleport.com http://www.teleport.com/~moore From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:19:47 1996 From: ka1jy@usa.nai.net (Brian Ellsworth) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Packet Digipeaters: What&How Date: Sat, 09 Mar 1996 12:10:01 GMT Message-ID: <31417276.3273600@a3bsrv.nai.net> References: <96052.215147IO20754@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> <312c7699.57019942@cronkite> <312de3c4.2758022@canberra.dialix.oz.au> Reply-To: ka1jy@usa.nai.net On Fri, 08 Mar 1996 11:49:22 GMT, vk7kob@canberra.dialix.oz.au (Robert Walker) wrote: >On Thu, 22 Feb 1996 14:06:28 GMT, ellsworth@bravo.otis.utc.com (Brian >Ellsworth) wrote: > >>me wrote: > >Hi Brian! Hey, if you're REALLY serious about a packet digi that is >multi-protocol, multi-user, multi-speed and offers a NETROM Node as..... (yawn) >Just stick the device on a hilltop somewhere and wait for the local >guys to explore all its features and possibilities.... > Duz everything and some......... > ah, I didn't write the original question, it was Aaron KA1VOA from Orono Maine. By the way, I'm not the slightest bit interested in putting up a hidden transmitter lame simplex node. I don't care if you spend $10,000 on the latest wiz-bang tnc and software if you just 'stick it up on a hill' someplace as a simplex node you're wasting bandwidth and everyones time. My only comment to the original thread was digi's don't work worth a hoot, so why even bother. If you are REALLY serious and would like to help, save the hugh amount of money you'd spend on that kantronics box, pool it with some other rich operators, and put up a digital repeater. -be From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:19:48 1996 From: thomasm910@aol.com (ThomasM910) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Pactor help please Date: 9 Mar 1996 21:07:51 -0500 Message-ID: <4htdhn$kt5@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: thomasm910@aol.com (ThomasM910) I am new to the digital modes and have yet to have a pactor qso. my questions: - does pactor use selcall? or just my actual call? - where do you look to start a pactor conversation, ie call cq or answer one? - I have heard some things that sound like pactor bulletin boards. how does one connect? is that what I am hearing when I come across (almost) endless repititions of a call sign, with no other data? last, if anyone can point me to a good source for basic pactor operations I'd be grateful. Thanks, Tom, AA0UU, THOMASM910@AOL.COM Tom Miller, Mpls., MN Amateur Radio Station AA0UU From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:19:49 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: ranger@eskimo.com (Richard Berndt) Subject: Re: PAKRATT or PKGOLD for PK232 Message-ID: References: <4ftpn4$mis@news.sas.ab.ca> <3134d051.3929667@news.netrax.net> Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 05:42:18 GMT *************sipped*********************** >Now I know midnight my time is nine PM their time, but that does not >detract from their helpfulness. On a Friday night, to get anybody to >respond at all is fantastic, but to get a return call And a solution at >nine o'clock his time is just outta' sight. >That's the kind of people at Interflex. I recommend their products >every time I get the chance. >They will always have my business, and I hope you give them yours. >73 >Cheers, >Kenneth F. Jones ( mailto:kjones@sun-link.com ) ( CIS:73135,1243 ) >http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/ken_jones >PGP Key ID:FE99B25D; key avail on public servers Ken, I guess that you may and I say may be one that they have help with a small to nothing problem. They have yet and dont want to fix problems and program errors on PK96 and PK900. Interflex seems to blame AEA for "ALL" the problems. Stll waiting for info on upgrade to KAGOLD sent by E-MAIl with return receipt. Still not one word. maybe they went broke. Richard N7VWJ From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:19:50 1996 From: bt34869@tilia.cc.fer.hr (Boris Tudan) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: PS-YAPP Date: 5 Mar 1996 08:46:15 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <4hgv0n$p65@bagan.srce.hr> HI!!! I wonder if anybody knows where can I find SP with YAPP included. TNX 9A3QM - Boris -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~ This msg was sent by Tookey (bt34869@tilia.cc.fer.hr) ~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~ Also known as Boris Tudan .... ~~ ~~ (Ruznoca je state of mind) ~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~ +385 (0)47 342526 or Susacka 19, 4700 Karlovac, Croatia ~~ From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:19:51 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: Realtime compression ax25? Message-ID: <1996Mar7.162316.20628@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: <1996Mar1.124346.20927@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4hk5a1$7tn@dfw.nkn.net> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 1996 16:23:16 GMT In article <4hk5a1$7tn@dfw.nkn.net> jack@cyberloans.com writes: >I missed the beginning of this thread but I'll chime in anyway. One thing >to consider... on a two way packet conversation where the text is something >like: > Hi Gary. How's the 56k project comming along. > Speeding right along. How are things with you. >etc.... > where each string of characters between parties is short, your going >to get little, none, or Anti-Compression. Compression is mostly good when >you've got a lot of data ( pbbs message for instance ) and you know what it >is ahead of time. Play around with PKZIP. PKZIP a 1 line file of 40 >characters or so and compare the compressed, .zip file with the original. >The compressed file is going to be 2 - 3 times larger. > > Anyway... it's very difficult to get much compression on short strings >you'd see in a two way QSO. Using a faster baud rate is really the best and >only way to go in this case. Not necessarily. You're assuming that compression is done in isolation for each frame. That does not have to be the case. Compression can also be done on a session basis. Then the "book" represents only a small overhead, and if you use a standard book, no overhead at all. It's not the most efficient compression method, but it will work and offer some advantage even for sessions with short interactive frames. For those not familiar with code book, or dictionary, compression, each codeword is more than 7 bits long. Lets say it is 12 bits. That allows for a code book of 4096 elements. A 12 bit codeword could stand for an individual letter, but more productively it could also stand for a simple word like "the", or a common word ending like "ing". So, for these examples, you'd transmit 12 bits in lieu of transmitting 21 (actually 24 if using packet octets). That's almost a 2:1 compression. A longer common word like "radio" would show even better compression "gain". Think about the vocabulary you need for a routine amateur contact. Do you think you need more than 4000 different words? If you do, you've still got the alphabet available for the ocasional odd word. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:19:52 1996 From: jack@cyberloans.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Realtime compression ax25? Date: 6 Mar 1996 13:40:52 GMT Message-ID: <4hk4l5$7tn@dfw.nkn.net> References: <1996Mar1.124346.20927@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: jack@cyberloans.com In <1996Mar1.124346.20927@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman ) writes: >The Kantronics 2400 baud systems will work through unmodified radios, >and the HAPN 4800 baud modems are also supposed to work through unmodified >radios. There has been some work in Japan using the 9600 baud FAX modems >for data through unmodified radios (though there are problems with this >in a contending environment). So you aren't limited to just 1200 baud. Does anyone know where to find the HAPN 4800 Baud modems? I've seen them mentioned several times, but I never could find a source for them. If any one knows where to find more info about them, please let me know. Thanks. 73's de Jack - kf5mg Internet / hobby - kf5mg@kf5mg.ampr.org - home (817) 488-4386 work - jack@cyberloans.com - work (214) 516-6270 +=========================================================================+ + I am Homer of Borg.... prepare to be assim... oooo... Donuts... + +=========================================================================+ From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:19:53 1996 From: jack@cyberloans.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Realtime compression ax25? Date: 6 Mar 1996 13:52:01 GMT Message-ID: <4hk5a1$7tn@dfw.nkn.net> References: <1996Mar1.124346.20927@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: jack@cyberloans.com In <1996Mar1.124346.20927@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman ) writes: >In article nl1rea@cbpackhv.xs4all.NL w rites: >> >>Is there anyone who experimented with it? Are there other digital modes to >>reach higher througput using the small bandwith on 11 meters? > >Compression has become routine for BBS->BBS message forwarding, but I >haven't heard of its use between ordinary user packet stations. There's >no reason why it won't work, however. Non-packet digital, IE PACTOR, >uses compression routinely. I missed the beginning of this thread but I'll chime in anyway. One thing to consider... on a two way packet conversation where the text is something like: Hi Gary. How's the 56k project comming along. Speeding right along. How are things with you. etc.... where each string of characters between parties is short, your going to get little, none, or Anti-Compression. Compression is mostly good when you've got a lot of data ( pbbs message for instance ) and you know what it is ahead of time. Play around with PKZIP. PKZIP a 1 line file of 40 characters or so and compare the compressed, .zip file with the original. The compressed file is going to be 2 - 3 times larger. Anyway... it's very difficult to get much compression on short strings you'd see in a two way QSO. Using a faster baud rate is really the best and only way to go in this case. 73's de Jack - kf5mg Internet / hobby - kf5mg@kf5mg.ampr.org - home (817) 488-4386 work - jack@cyberloans.com - work (214) 516-6270 +=========================================================================+ + I am Homer of Borg.... prepare to be assim... oooo... Donuts... + +=========================================================================+ From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:19:54 1996 From: a8009318@mcmaster.ca (Michael Spenuk - VA3SP) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Realtime compression ax25? Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 18:19:42 Message-ID: References: <1996Mar1.124346.20927@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4hk4l5$7tn@dfw.nkn.net> In article <4hk4l5$7tn@dfw.nkn.net> jack@cyberloans.com writes: >Does anyone know where to find the HAPN 4800 Baud modems? I've seen them >mentioned several times, but I never could find a source for them. If any >one knows where to find more info about them, please let me know. Thanks. The modem was described by Glen Leinweber et al in Ham Radio, August 1988, pp.10-21. As far as I'm aware, the HAPN organization no longer exists. >73's de Jack - kf5mg >Internet / hobby - kf5mg@kf5mg.ampr.org - home (817) 488-4386 > work - jack@cyberloans.com - work (214) 516-6270 >+=========================================================================+ >+ I am Homer of Borg.... prepare to be assim... oooo... Donuts... + >+=========================================================================+ 73, Mike From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:19:55 1996 From: poseidon@escape.com (Benedict P. Barszcz) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: s Date: 10 Mar 1996 22:42:14 GMT Message-ID: <4hvls6$pri@beyond.escape.com> s From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:19:56 1996 From: fflynn@together.NET (Francis Flynn) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: TAI-CHI MASTER - 3/13 - PC THEATER Date: 7 Mar 96 00:51:23 GMT Message-ID: References: <2.2.32.19960306225013.00696540@mail.erinet.com> On Wed, 6 Mar 1996, Ken Gunton wrote: > > What the hell is this all about? > >| THE TAI-CHI MASTER | > >| | > >| Directed by Yuen Woo Ping | I don't know, but maybe if we stop quoting it, it will go away. Fran, KM1Z From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:19:57 1996 From: sm2irz@algonet.se (Sune Nyholm) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: TEKK KS-1000 ?? Date: Fri, 08 Mar 96 00:43:37 GMT Message-ID: <4hnv2d$9ta@prometheus.algonet.se> Hello! I need information from hams who has tested TEKK's newest datatransciever. Is it working good on 9k6??? 73 SM2IRZ From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:19:58 1996 From: dhinch@cello.gina.calstate.edu (David L. Hinch) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: TEKK Radios Date: 9 Mar 1996 15:02:09 -0800 Message-ID: <4ht2lh$iqm@cello.gina.calstate.edu> References: bfleet@mbl.edu (Betchy) writes: > I'm looking for a source for the TEkk line of data radios, thanks in > advance for any input. > > bfleet@mbl.edu Tekk can be reached at 1-800-521-8355. They will send you literature and tell you about local distributers. They also sell direct at full list prices as I understand it. 73 Dave KE6MYC -- From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:19:59 1996 From: nielsen@primenet.com (Bob Nielsen) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: TNOS Conf Bridges Date: 6 Mar 1996 21:24:01 -0700 Message-ID: <4hlod1$r3g@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <4hdpbf$n7m@clarknet.clark.net> k1zat@puff (J.D. Delancy) wrote: >Anyone have a feel for the IP that goes along with the >TNOS/internet gateway in Tampa Fla ? Internet side: lantz.com 123.125.16.1 AMPRnet side: ko4ks.ampr.org 44.98.24.1 From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:20:00 1996 From: k1zat@puff (J.D. Delancy) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: TNOS Conf Bridges Date: 4 Mar 1996 03:51:11 GMT Message-ID: <4hdpbf$n7m@clarknet.clark.net> Anyone have a feel for the IP that goes along with the TNOS/internet gateway in Tampa Fla ? jd (k1zat@dsport.com) From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:20:00 1996 From: Bill Crocker Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: VHF/UHF monitoring of digital signals? Date: Fri, 08 Mar 1996 01:12:23 -0300 Message-ID: <313FB3A7.5682@mail.rust.net> Strictly from a monitoring viewpoint, are their digital modes of interest on VHF/UHF frequencies? If so, what is the best decoder and software to use? Thanks, Bill Crocker From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 07:20:01 1996 From: dmeredith@phx-az.com (Daniel Meredith) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: WINFBB Available Date: 5 Mar 1996 18:19:02 -0700 Message-ID: <4hip66$r9m@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Reply-To: dmeredith@phx-az.com WINFBB 7.0 Is Now Available from the F6FBB SUPPORT BBS: +1-602-912-0225 WFBB7-00.ZIP Sysop From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 13:53:21 1996 From: ik8enh@netgroup.it (ik8enh) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Soundblaster Cards and WEFAX & SSTV Date: Wed, 06 Mar 1996 21:47:48 GMT Message-ID: <4hl11q$1i5@server-b.cs.interbusiness.it> References: <4gb0f8$s3p@alfred.acs.uwlax.edu> <312A0382.6D24@sprynet.com> <4gf73h$1m6@alfred.acs.uwlax.edu> Reply-To: ik8enh@netgroup.it Feroz Ghouse wrote: >Hello Paul: >Yeeeees! >I would like more information on this and the software. >I have been told that not all soundblaster cards will work. Is this true? >Thank You >73 >Feroz, 4S7FG/WU9N HI Guys , please continue to pass the info on this newsgroup. I am very interested.Thank-you very much for collaboration. 73 Nino IK8ENH e-mail ik8enh@netgroup.it AX.25 IK8ENH@IK8URC.ICAM.ITA.EU or IK8ENH MR. Molaro Nino,Via R. Raiola 61 80053 C/mare di Stabia NA -ITALY From lwbyppp@epix.net Mon Mar 11 13:53:22 1996 From: edlangjr@esinet.net (Ed Lang) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: What is a KAM worth $? Date: Mon, 11 Mar 96 12:39:23 GMT Message-ID: <4i17b8$ara@esinet1.esinet.net> KAM not the KAM+. I do not know the rev of firmware. How much is one worth now? 73 Ed Lang KC4YLX edlangjr@esinet.net From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 15:41:51 1996 From: st11@ita.pwr.wroc.PL (Paul) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: (none) Date: 11 Mar 96 17:00:13 GMT Message-ID: <199603111701.JAA05665@UCSD.EDU> subscribe From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 15:41:52 1996 From: st11@ita.pwr.wroc.PL (Paul) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: (none) Date: 11 Mar 96 16:32:58 GMT Message-ID: <199603111634.IAA18225@UCSD.EDU> subscribe From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 15:41:53 1996 From: Drew Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: *** Test *** Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 23:37:58 -0500 Message-ID: References: <4hc4m7$jvj@bucky.win.bright.net> On 3 Mar 1996, Mike - KB9LPJ wrote: > Date: 3 MAR 1996 12:52:23 GMT > From: Mike - KB9LPJ > Newgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc > Subject: *** Test *** > > This is a test to learn how to use the news group. > This is a test to learn how to reply to a news group. > > > /<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>\ |--------------------------------Andrew Scott--------------------------------| |-------------------------ascott@freenet.npiec.on.ca-------------------------| \<><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>/ From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 15:41:55 1996 From: <102452.2315@compuserve.com> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: A USA QSL BURO Date: 12 Mar 1996 00:50:34 GMT Message-ID: <4i2hoq$him@arl-news-svc-3.compuserve.com> Keywords: usaburo usa bureau usburo usa buro * * * * * * * A T T E N T I O N A L L H A M S * * * * * * * NOW SEND "QSL VIA USBURO" ON THE AIR! 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If you want other modes in a I'm sorry, but I disagree 100 percent. I have a Baycom modem here, and have run Baycom 1.4 and 1.5 on it many times, and while it is "acceptable" it has always been very much INFERIOR to *any* packet activity I have done on ANY TNC...beginning with the original TNC-1! Since 1988, when I started in packet, I've owned and operated: TNC-1 (still use it today) KPC2 KPC3 KAM MFJ 1270 MFH 1278 It's true that some of the early TNC's *did* have birdies that could land near a particular operating frequency, but this problem has (as far as I know) been solved for quite some time. I ahve always experienced far greater throughput when using a TNC instead of the BAYCOM modem and software (which I have tried rpeeatedly, over several months, for several years). BAYCOM and PMP have their merits...they are the most inexpensive way to get into packet (unless you find a used "basic" TNC)...and the terminal software is nice (though there are a slew of commercial and shareware programs now that do as much and more than BAYCOM...check out the shareware versions of eSkay Packet (SP) for example). 73... Joe WD4KAV @ WD4KAV.#STUFL.FLU.USA.NOAM (packet) kavman@gate.net (Internet) ...happily running JNOS 110m on a TNC-1 with a 8 Mhz IBM AT with 640K... (who says you have to operate with the latest hardware and software to enjoy packet radio and networking?) -- .... Joe Burnham Packet Radio: WD4KAV @ WD4KAV.#STU.FL.USA.NOAM INTERNET: kavman@gate.net From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 15:41:58 1996 From: Rick Wilson Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: BBS sysops (EU) wanted Date: 12 Mar 1996 13:08:50 GMT Message-ID: <4i3t12$664@babylon5.glenqcy.glenayre.com> The following is a translation of a posting from Fabrizio, IW3RXV, a BBS sysop . Please respond directly to him. -=-=-=-=- I am looking for any sysop of an fbb-type BBS with whom I can establish a relationship to do e-mail forwarding for an immediate link through Italy, a go od message link. 73 + 51 de Fabrizio ******************* Fabrizio Vallefuoco e-mail addr: f.vallefuoco@ud.nettuno.it Ampr. addr.: iw3rxv@s55tcp.ampr.org AX25 addr.: IW3RXV@IV3AVQ.IFVG.ITA.EU -- Rick Wilson | e-mail: rdw@glenqcy.glenayre.com fax 217 221 6259 | voice 217 221 6137 | ham call W0KT se habla espan~ol | ich spreche deutsch | si parla italiano From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 15:41:59 1996 From: batwing@digital.net (Doug) Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,alt.radio.scanner Subject: Re: BEWARE OF DEALING WITH DERRICK HALL, SEAT Date: 12 Mar 1996 00:56:46 GMT Message-ID: <4i2i4e$jn8@ddi2.digital.net> References: <4gon7k$itc@bubba.NMSU.Edu> <4hnu68$fd3@nnt <3140afb5.2535283@news.atl.mindspring.com> Nope, not mail fraud when using a common carrier, ie UPS/FEDEX. Recommend you contact them...last time I had a problem, UPS had an investigato r at the house the next day Doug From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 15:42:00 1996 From: "Dr. Duncan Clark" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: DX-cluster RX using an Atari Portfolio? Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 17:04:27 +0000 Distribution: world Message-ID: Hi Folks, Does anyone know if there is any packet software for receiving 2m DX cluster that will run on a 4 year old Atari Portfolio ie 8086 with built in DOS, 128k RAM and up to 128k RAM data memory card, RS232 port. I have one doing nothing and it would sit very nicely by the main rig. It appears to survive the 400w linear and doesn't generate hash. I just need appropriate low memory usage software for a suiatble 1200 TNC. Regards Duncan G4ELJ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- The problem with being on the cutting edge is that you occasionally get sliced from time to time.... http://www.thenet.co.uk/~dnamp From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 15:42:01 1996 From: f.vallefuoco@ud.nettuno.it (Fabrizio (IW3RXV)) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Forward via E-mail Date: Sat, 09 Mar 1996 21:52:53 GMT Message-ID: <4ht1cq$nsh@sirio.cineca.it> Reply-To: f.vallefuoco@ud.nettuno.it Hallo all. I'm a collaborator of IV3AVQ BBs based in Italy , and I' search a Sysop for have a Fwd via E-mail , ONLY FBB system.. TNX and 73 de IW3RXV and IV3AVQ bbs. ****************************************** IW3RXV Op. Fabrizio E-mail addr.:f.vallefuoco@ud.nettuno.it Ampr. addr. :iw3rxv@s55tcp.ampr.org AX25 addr. :IW3RXV@IV3AVQ.IFVG.ITA.EU ****************************************** From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 15:42:02 1996 From: clark@crl.com (Kevin Clark) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: hamcom inteface Date: 12 Mar 1996 14:28:30 -0800 Message-ID: <4i4tqe$dms@crl.crl.com> Does anyone know the programming requirements for setting up a hamcom interface for use in your onw program? clark From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 15:42:03 1996 From: gerard@research.CAnon.COM.AU (Gerard Hill) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: HAPN 4800 bps modems Date: 11 Mar 96 00:28:22 GMT Message-ID: <199603110028.LAA01070@halsall.research.canon.com.au> References: <199603091230.EAA12774@mail.ucsd.edu> > In <1996Mar1.124346.20927@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) writes: > >The Kantronics 2400 baud systems will work through unmodified radios, > >and the HAPN 4800 baud modems are also supposed to work through unmodified > >radios. There has been some work in Japan using the 9600 baud FAX modems > >for data through unmodified radios (though there are problems with this > >in a contending environment). So you aren't limited to just 1200 baud. Unfortunately the HAPN 4800 baud modem will not work with unmodified radios. They will work with FM and PM radios though and do not require a transmitter modulator response down to DC that is required with 9600 bps modems. So they are less demanding on the type of radio you use than 9600. They can be made to work even with synthesised radios. > Does anyone know where to find the HAPN 4800 Baud modems? I've seen them > mentioned several times, but I never could find a source for them. If any > one knows where to find more info about them, please let me know. Thanks. HAPN do still exist. You can contact them at: H.A.P.N. 5193 White Church Rd, Mount Hope, Ontario, Canada L0R 1W0 Cheers ... Gerard VK2DAA From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 15:42:04 1996 From: rikhardu@rhi.hi.is (Rikhardur Sveinsson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: help! KISS & KPC-9612! Date: 11 Mar 1996 15:14:11 GMT Message-ID: <4i1g03$fn1@eldborg.rhi.hi.is> I have a Kantronics KPC-9612 with version 5.2... Is there a BUG???? I have been trying to get this modem to work with JNOS with out luck...The only response I get is very fast blink of tha STA led.! The cable is DB25<->DB25 and I connected 2-2 3-3 4-4 5-5 6-6 7-7 8-8 20-20 What could be wrong..? Benedikt Sveinsson TF3BNT From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 15:42:05 1996 From: dick@tmh.ORG (Dick Mock) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: HF Packet. Is it worth setting up? Date: 14 Mar 96 02:16:09 GMT Message-ID: <96031372083@tmh.org> >Date: 10 Mar 96 20:56:41 -0800 >From: dbuffton@msn.com (Debora Buffington) >Subject: HF Packet. Is it worth setting up? >On HF, the main qso modes are Pactor and RTTY (Pactor >is the most active) > >Most or all of the HF packet you hear is automated >forwarding. It isn't a very good mode for HF, and few >folks bother live qsos on HF packet. > >Roger, Ab6wr > That almost rings as a clever ploy! Simply saying, "It isn't a very good mode for HF," sounds to me like, "Please don't use the 'HF packet channels' for QSO's. Stay out of the forwarders' hair." I agree that HF packet protocols can be improved. But right now ... TODAY... if it weren't un-gentlemanly to use the other "teleprinter" channels, HF packet could use the HF spectrum more efficiently than even Pactor. (And I love Pactor.) But pactor will not tolerate more than one QSO on the channel. Maybe that's the big reason it's a favorite when you really think of it. Actually, I would think pactor would be one of the better modes for forwarding packet traffic. HF packet is great for QSO's when the channel is not bonkers with users. Dick - W7DHS dick@tmh.org //////////////////////////////////////////////////////// From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 15:42:06 1996 From: biekert@phoenix.net (Bob Biekert) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: KPC9612 Date: Wed, 13 Mar 96 04:02:18 GMT Message-ID: <4i5hct$qvv@gryphon.phoenix.net> HELP... have KCP9612 with 6.0 My tnc keeps hard reseting itself... somewhat repeatable.. if someone connects to my gateway, then back to my node and does a mh .. it crashes... loses all settings... Any ideas? Sounds like a firmware bug to me 73 Bob Bob Biekert -- Houston Texas biekert@phoenix.net ka5glx@amsat.org, ka5glx@clarc.phoenix.net http://clarc.phoenix.net/~ka5glx From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 15:42:07 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Linux users....HELP! Message-ID: <31471A65.41C67EA6@paisley.ac.uk> From: "D.R. Christiansen (GM7RTH)" Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 18:56:37 +0000 I am wanting to set up my linux station for packet...if you have done this..then please mail me a 'baby' language insructions of how to do it!.. Thanks.... David GM7RTH@gb7eiy.#78.gbr.eu but mail me on com10027@paisley.ac.uk byeeee From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 15:42:08 1996 From: Mziggi Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Looking for decoding software Date: 16 Mar 1996 02:08:36 GMT Message-ID: <4id7r5$sq0@news.iconn.net> I am looking for any information about all-mode decoding software, particularly those that interface the recv' throught the PC sound card. I already have the basic CW software. Now looking for RTTY, amtor, sitor ,etc.. If anyone has anything or can point me in the right direction I'd appreciate it. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 15:42:09 1996 From: gerheim@sonalysts.com (Al Gerheim) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Need UT, WY, VT and DE on RTTY Date: 13 Mar 1996 12:12:17 GMT Message-ID: <4i6e31$cro@hatch.sonalysts.com> If you can help, please email. -- *********************************************************************** Dr. Al Gerheim, N4QN | I cried because I had | Sonalysts Inc. POB 280 gerheim@sonalysts.com | no shoes till I met a | 215 Parkway North 1 (800) 526-8091 X218 | man who had no class. | Waterford CT 06385 ********************************************************************** From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 15:42:10 1996 From: Phil Keller Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Network over Packet Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 17:28:27 -0800 Message-ID: <3144D33B.2CB5@wco.com> I have been asked, by the local Fire Department, to look into the possibility of using packet in times of emergency. They, like any government agency, are driven by forms and proper reporting of incidents, materials requested and consumed. What they would like is to be able to have an operator on a computer on the scene, enter the data into the proper electronic form and to have it printed out at the EOC. If this were a wired network and I would have suggested that they simply use Windows-For-Workgroups with its ability to share resources and printers. This way they could simply specify the printer that is located at the EOC and print it out. Since I do not have the advantage of wire between sites I was thinking that there must be a way to create a virtual network between the two sites. I understand that this will be slow, but hopefully what ever solution is implemented can support 5600 baud and that will help ease the pain. What are my options and what do you recommend? Places to go..... Literature to read .... -Phil- ==================================== "Those who avoid decapitation, leave more offspring." -Carl Sagan Phil Keller N6MWC mailto:philk@wco.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 15:42:11 1996 From: jbarr@MCS.COM (James W. Barr) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Packet and Win95? Date: 14 Mar 1996 07:38:10 -0600 Message-ID: <4i97g2$b1v@Venus.mcs.com> Has anyone been able to use TCP/IP using Windows 95? It seems to me that all we need is a driver written and we couls access LOTS of stuff through Win95's integrated TCP/IP. Slowly, of course ;-) -- -Jim --------------------------------------------------------------------------- James W. Barr, N9ONL | Get the shareware version of Geoworks Ensemble at: Buffalo Grove, IL, USA | ftp://ftp.mcs.com/mcsnet.users/jbarr/GeoPublish e-mail: jbarr@mcs.com | For IZL programming language for GEOS contact: | jferas@netaxs.com --------------[ My home page is: http://www.mcs.net/~jbarr ]--------------- From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 15:42:12 1996 From: dpc01@www.gnofn.org (Daniel P Cristina) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Packet Bulletin Availability Date: 8 Mar 1996 01:52:41 -0600 Message-ID: <4hop09$rj9@www.gnofn.org> Thanks to all that reply: Is there a site that is accessable via internet to retrieve current packet bulletins, etc.; @WW, @ALLUS. Would prefer to be able to d/l zipped files if possible to be imported int a MSYS packet system here in New Orleans. There are many packet systems available, but most don't have the buls available in file form. Thanks for any help and direction... Danny/N5OMG From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 15:42:13 1996 From: n4clh@mindspring.com (Bob Austin) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Pactor help please Date: 10 Mar 1996 13:26:39 GMT Message-ID: <4hulaf$6lc@B1FF.mindspring.com> References: <4htdhn$kt5@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: n4clh@mindspring.com In message <4htdhn$kt5@newsbf02.news.aol.com> - thomasm910@aol.com (ThomasM910) writes: :> :>I am new to the digital modes and have yet to have a pactor qso. my :>questions: :> :>- does pactor use selcall? or just my actual call? :>- where do you look to start a pactor conversation, ie call cq or :>answer one? ( actual call ) connects are dependent on the Controller you are using. I use the PacComm controller and the command is: Connect Callsign on the PK232 the command is: PTCon Callsign :>- I have heard some things that sound like pactor bulletin boards. :>how does one connect? is that what I am hearing when I come across :>(almost) endless repititions of a call sign, with no other data? ( signal ) the pactor signal sounds very simular to amtor(bursts of signal) amtor send/receive signals are the same duration - approx 1 sec pactor send/receive signals are send-approx 2.5sec, recv-approx 1sec :> :>last, if anyone can point me to a good source for basic pactor operations :>I'd be grateful. Thanks, Tom, AA0UU, THOMASM910@AOL.COM :> ARRL has a book called 'Your HF Digital Companion' (for starters) :> :> :>Tom Miller, Mpls., MN :>Amateur Radio Station AA0UU :> :> 73 Regards, Bob Atlanta, GA. Hosting the 1996 Olympic Games From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 15:42:14 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: Jim Berry Subject: Re: Pactor help please Message-ID: To: thomasm910@aol.com References: <4htdhn$kt5@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 07:23:48 GMT Hi Tom, I don't know if I will be of much help here but should get you going somewhat. >- does pactor use selcall? or just my actual call? Pactor uses the full call. >- where do you look to start a pactor conversation, ie call cq or >answer one? Band conditions are pretty crummy but you should be able to find someone to talk to in the the 3600 3650 Khz area (80 meters) 7065 to 7065 to 7085 area on 40 meters. 20 meters in the 14065 to 14095 area. Now this is right of the top of my head. There are more exacting and specific areas but this should give you a 'ballpark' starting area. >- I have heard some things that sound like pactor bulletin boards. >how does one connect? is that what I am hearing when I come across >(almost) endless repititions of a call sign, with no other data? > If you bring up a BBS (called MBO's) they will pretty much walk you thru a proceedure. Bye typing HELP they will tell you all about it. That endless string of calls you may be seeing is someone calling someone. An example would be if you were to call me you would send K7SLI over and over until my system answered. I do run one of those MBO's and it, and others, can be good practice but unless you can rattle out the op you will have to talk to a machine. Even though, good practice. If you are interested in more information let me know. I will try and think of a good nuts and bolts publication you can look at that would get you going. >last, if anyone can point me to a good source for basic pactor operations 73 Jim K7SLI From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 15:42:16 1996 From: jack@cyberloans.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Q: Alinco 1200 @ 9600b Date: 14 Mar 1996 20:09:59 GMT Message-ID: <4i9uen$43c@news2.nkn.net> Reply-To: jack@cyberloans.com I'm currently running a 9600b link using a pair of Alinco 1200 Data Radios. ( The Data Radio part is a JOKE! ) Anyway... does anyone have any mods that will allow you to use a faster TXDELAY than 350ms or so? I've been told by someone who knows alot more about this than me that the Phase Lock Loop in the receiver doesn't work fast enought to do much faster than a 350ms TXDELAY. Just thought I'd check in here and see if anyone know of any additional mods for the radios to do 9600b a bit better. Thanks. 73's de Jack - kf5mg Internet / hobby - kf5mg@kf5mg.ampr.org - home (817) 488-4386 work - jack@cyberloans.com - work (214) 516-6270 +=========================================================================+ + I am Homer of Borg.... prepare to be assim... oooo... Donuts... + +=========================================================================+ From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 15:42:17 1996 From: jack@cyberloans.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Q: MFJ 2mtr Data Radios Date: 14 Mar 1996 20:06:52 GMT Message-ID: <4i9u8s$43c@news2.nkn.net> Reply-To: jack@cyberloans.com Does anyone have any experience with the MFJ Data Radio running on a 9600b link? I read the Apr96 ( or was it Mar96 ) that had a small, write up on it. The article indicated that it had a poor receiver and that the author didn't try and do any 9600b stuff. Any info on it's performance or mods needed for 9600b would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. 73's de Jack - kf5mg Internet / hobby - kf5mg@kf5mg.ampr.org - home (817) 488-4386 work - jack@cyberloans.com - work (214) 516-6270 +=========================================================================+ + I am Homer of Borg.... prepare to be assim... oooo... Donuts... + +=========================================================================+ From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 15:42:17 1996 From: william russell Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Sale KPC9612 Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 21:25:09 -0800 Message-ID: <31465C35.72F6@mastnet.net> Hello and thanks for reading as stated I have a KPC9612 still NEW in the box i just never got into it and moved on to other things. i'll sell for $150 thats shipped to your door and insured still has everything that came with it, The only thing i did was opened the box. EMAIL: wsrusse@mastnet.net PHONE: (409)297-0354 Thanks Scot (KB5YXQ) From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 15:42:19 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: Spread Spectrum QRP Message-ID: <1996Mar11.174927.11675@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: <137cc$db31.3e4@mediasoft.net> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 17:49:27 GMT In article kd6mzm@r icochet.net writes: >I would be interested in working with developing a spread spectrum modem for >amateur use. >In fact I am connected with one right now via a commercial provicer who >also offers full internet ppp access to the web. The ease of use is so >convincing.. no vires to drag no sour family faces to see because the phone >line is busy. I fact one can be on the net and at the same time talk someone >through the telephone. Also the spread spectrum modems during an emergency >situation would serve well as city wide computer network. > >kd6mzm Ah, an actual ricochet customer. How's the throughput, really? What kind of bytes/sec do you get for ftp? And what does it *feel* like during an interactive session? (IE does it feel like a 2400 baud telco modem, a 9600 baud modem, a 28.8 modem, etc) And can you tell a difference due to customer loading? (IE how consistent is the throughput?) I'm very interested in this technology, a first hand user report would be very welcome. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 15:42:19 1996 From: alanpercy@aol.com (AlanPercy) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Spread Spectrum QRP Date: 12 Mar 1996 01:59:40 -0500 Message-ID: <4i37ct$a7p@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: Reply-To: alanpercy@aol.com (AlanPercy) Tell us what equipment you are using!!! We here in the Buffalo area are trying to setup a network of Part 15 S.S. systems for gaining access to the Internet, but we can't decide which way to go! Some of the BreezeCom stuff looks really great, but before we spend the money, I would love a personal recommendation. Tell us more!!! ------- A nanosecond here, a nanosecond there, the next thing you know, you have real-time. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 15:42:20 1996 From: richard.volpe@chowda.com (Richard Volpe) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: sucks Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 11:18:37 GMT Message-ID: <9603121800122859@chowda.com> Distribution: world this really sucks From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 15:42:21 1996 From: Gary Pearce KN4AQ Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Window Packet Software for KAM+ ?? Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 07:10:18 -0500 Message-ID: <31480CAA.299B@mms.net> References: <4hgq0g$q69@cloner4.netcom.com> To: "Richard D. Gill" Richard D. Gill wrote: > > Hi..I am getting ready to buy a KAM+ TNC to replace my PK232.. > My question is there any windows packet software that will alow dual > port operation like the Kamtronics Host Master II software.??? I do not > believe that Hostmaster II software will run under Windows..If I am > incorrect about this please let me know....Thanks..73's > > Rich KQ6EF E-Mail richsnol@.ix.netcom.com Hostmaster will run fine in a DOS window. For something more elegant, try KaWin, a true windows program. You can download it to test from: http://www.mutadv.com/kawin/ It's a bit expensive -- $79 at last check, but it does a lot of nice stuff. I've seen references to other high-end Windows software for Kantronics (KaGold, I believe), but I haven't tried it. 73, Gary KN4AQ From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 16 15:42:22 1996 From: kbanke@qualcomm.com (Kerry Banke) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: WTD: Ottawa packet group PI or PI2 board Date: 12 Mar 1996 15:17:01 GMT Message-ID: I am in the process of trying to set up a pair of Grapes 56Kb modems to work through our San Diego Microwave Group 10 GHz wideband repeater. I need to borrow or purchase two Ottawa PI or PI2 boards. I understand these boards available from the Ottawa packet group. Does anyone have boards they'd like to sell or loan or have the contact info as to where to buy these? Thanks - Kerry N6IZW - From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:46:36 1996 From: brad@village.vonl.com (Brad Killebrew) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: 56k modem and UHF rig. Date: 19 Mar 1996 14:42:03 GMT Message-ID: <4imh3r$p6o@ns3.iamerica.net> Hi Folks. I need to be pointed in the direction where I can find a 56k modem (already built or kit is fine) and a UHF radio that can handle this type of xfer. I'm sick and tired of 1200 baud packet and I'm ready to upgrade. Any suggestions would be welcome. -- Brad Killebrew N5LJV brad@vonl.com Systems Administrator, Village Online From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:46:37 1996 From: boyer@rd.bbc.co.uk (John Boyer) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: 56k modem and UHF rig. Date: 20 Mar 1996 11:37:17 GMT Message-ID: <4ioqld$m55@bbcnews.rd.bbc.co.uk> References: <4imh3r$p6o@ns3.iamerica.net> Brad Killebrew (brad@village.vonl.com) wrote: : : Hi Folks. : : I need to be pointed in the direction where I can find a 56k modem : (already built or kit is fine) and a UHF radio that can handle this : type of xfer. : : I'm sick and tired of 1200 baud packet and I'm ready to upgrade. : Any suggestions would be welcome. : : -- : Brad Killebrew N5LJV brad@vonl.com : Systems Administrator, Village Online : Check out the grapes homepage on http://www.mindspring.com/~bobm/grapes/grapes .html or siskin for a ready built one, but hold onto your wallet. You can transmit with a micowave modules transverter, but the biggest problem is that the 56k sig is about 75k wide at it's 30dB points. Plus you need a suitable card to dive the modem with. j. -- ************************************************************** * John Boyer, BBC Research & Development Department * * Kingswood Warren, Tadworth, Surrey, KT20 6NP * * email: john.boyer@rd.bbc.co.uk * * phone: 01737 836580 fax: 01737 836665 * ************************************************************** From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:46:38 1996 From: anderson@ncrsun1.ncr.usace.army.mil (Kevin Anderson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: APLink? APRS? Automated HF digital stations? Date: 18 Mar 1996 09:48:02 -0500 Message-ID: I'm looking for an elmer(s) to correspond with to help me understand some digital systems. I wasn't finding the info I needed/wanted in FAQs. APLink? APRS? Automated HF digital stations? I am particularly interested in understanding the interactions of these systems. Thanks. Cheers/73. Kevin, KB9IUA * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Kevin L. Anderson, CENCR-PD-W, U.S. Army Corps of Engineers Rock Island District Office, Planning Div.-Waterway Systems Rock Island, Illinois 61204-2004, USA phone:(309) 794-5586 e-mail: anderson@ncrsun1.ncr.usace.army.mil * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Opinions expressed here are my own and do not represent the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers or the Federal Government. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:46:39 1996 From: p.illmayer@sno.mts.dec.com () Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Aussie Web Page with @vknet downloads Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 23:55:58 GMT Message-ID: <4i4vhj$54b@funlwb2.stl.dec.com> Hello OM's I have built a test web page on behalf of the Blue Mountains Amateur Radio Club.. It is my first attempt so all suggestions are welcome. This page has ALSO got a @vknet file download facility. It is only http and not ftp. Have a look and tell me what you think... Cheers..Pete..vk2yx From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:46:41 1996 From: wmkresl@townsquare.net (Wm Kresl) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Baycom/PMP vs ? Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 06:37:32 GMT Message-ID: <4idnmm$ncr@spectator.cris.com> References: <4hmsk1$rac@news.tamu.edu> <314082F0.518B@lanl.gov> <4i7rtc$1k5q@navajo.gate.net> Here's my two cents: I have built ALL of my own BAYCOM/PMP modems for my personal use as well as for other folks. They all used the TCM3105JL single chip modem. This chip has a critical RECEIVE BIAS (RXB) voltage that MUST be set properly for good receiving of packets. This DC bias voltage is best set using a trimpot voltage divider, as opposed to the STANDARD BAYCOM modem design of a fixed voltage divider. Many 'REAL' TNC's still use this modem chip, along with the fixed bias. These modem chips will receive packets poorly whether in a homemade PMP modem, or a brand new KPC-3 TNC if the bias is not correctly set (see TI's own data sheet on these chips). A very rough bias set point is +2.65vdc. I wrote a more "TECHNICALLY-CORRECT" tune-up method that appeared in the DECEMBER 1991 issue of 73 magazine that describes making this adjustment with some test software, scope, and loopback cable. Properly adjusted, the cheapie BAYCOM/PMP modems can go head-to-head with any other like fitted TNC (perhaps surpassing them) in the receive area. I agree about the ESKAY SUPER PACKET program, it is GREAT! However, no longer a shareware program. If you want some more fun, try the NPF PMS software on top of the G8BPQ packet switch with the TFPCX driver underneath. A full FBB compatible BBS/PMS/NODE/DIGI for your pleasure! Cheerio! Wm Kresl WB9BBC kavman@gate.net (Joe Burnham) wrote: >Jim Devenport (jdevenport@lanl.gov) wrote: >: I have tried 2 different commercial TNC's, Kantronics KPC2 and Pac-comm, >: and any and all the homebrew modems I have tried outperform either of >: these SO FAR as PACKET IS CONCERNED. If you want other modes in a >I'm sorry, but I disagree 100 percent. I have a Baycom modem here, and >have run Baycom 1.4 and 1.5 on it many times, and while it is >"acceptable" it has always been very much INFERIOR to *any* packet >activity I have done on ANY TNC...beginning with the original TNC-1! >Since 1988, when I started in packet, I've owned and operated: >TNC-1 (still use it today) >KPC2 >KPC3 >KAM >MFJ 1270 >MFH 1278 >It's true that some of the early TNC's *did* have birdies that could land >near a particular operating frequency, but this problem has (as far as I >know) been solved for quite some time. >I ahve always experienced far greater throughput when using a TNC instead >of the BAYCOM modem and software (which I have tried rpeeatedly, over >several months, for several years). >BAYCOM and PMP have their merits...they are the most inexpensive way to >get into packet (unless you find a used "basic" TNC)...and the terminal >software is nice (though there are a slew of commercial and shareware >programs now that do as much and more than BAYCOM...check out the >shareware versions of eSkay Packet (SP) for example). >73... Joe >WD4KAV @ WD4KAV.#STUFL.FLU.USA.NOAM (packet) >kavman@gate.net (Internet) >...happily running JNOS 110m on a TNC-1 with a 8 Mhz IBM AT with 640K... > (who says you have to operate with the latest hardware and software > to enjoy packet radio and networking?) >-- >.... Joe Burnham > Packet Radio: WD4KAV @ WD4KAV.#STU.FL.USA.NOAM > INTERNET: kavman@gate.net From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:46:42 1996 From: w5robert@blkbox.com (Robert Wood) Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,alt.radio.scanner Subject: Re: BEWARE OF DEALING WITH DERRICK HALL, SEAT Date: 13 Mar 1996 06:00:14 GMT Message-ID: <4i5o9e$nug@news.blkbox.com> References: <4gon7k$itc@bubba.NMSU.Edu> <4hnu68$fd3@nnt <3140afb5.2535283@news.atl.mindspring.com> <4i2i4e$jn8@ddi2.digital.net> Doug (batwing@digital.net) wrote: : Nope, not mail fraud when using a common carrier, ie UPS/FEDEX. : Recommend you contact them...last time I had a problem, UPS had an investiga tor : at the house the next day : Doug This beats the US Post Office - hands down. All I got from the US mail was a nice form letter. Basically stating we don't have time for little problems. 73 Robert From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:46:43 1996 From: "Dan Hubert (VE9DAN)" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: C64 to Knwd Interface Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 21:32:07 -0800 Message-ID: <314A5257.13A8@nbnet.nb.ca> Has anyone successfully interfaced the C64 computer to the Kenwood rigs to perform rig control duties? It was easily done using a 486 computer, but the units don't want to shake hands when using the C64. 4800 baud...Petscii vs ascii... etc, etc, but still no response. Info will be appreciated. Tnx Dan...VE9DAN From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:46:44 1996 From: cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Christopher K Greenhalgh) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: custom packet cable Date: 14 Mar 1996 17:28:23 GMT Message-ID: <4i9kvn$gam@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: In article , gary metzler wrote: >hi all, >can someone out there tell me if there is a company that makes custom >packet radio cables? I have an Icom IC281h 2 meter radio that has jacks >on the back for packet connections. I don't want to use a cable that >goes into the front mick cable. If possible I would like it to have a >cap on it that would cover all the wires and will hold both plugs. any >help would be appreciated. thanks 73 gary >-- >gary metzler (kn4ox) Well Gary, most make their own cables...its very easy...you only need be of entry level skill with a soldering gun to make cables, but, there is a place that makes custom packet cables that are well built, and look very nice. It is; Universal Radio 6830 Americana Parkway Reynoldsburg, OH. (614)866-4267 Just call 'em up, tell them what rig and TNC you have, give 'em the money (credit card number), and they will send it to you when their done. It usually takes less than a week, and I believe the typical cable is about $14.00. Take care. -- Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT Computer/Electronic Tech. II at The Ohio State University E-Mail: ckg+@osu.edu (cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) Radio : n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:46:46 1996 From: gmetzler@gate.net (gary metzler) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: custom packet cable Date: 13 Mar 1996 18:00:27 -0500 Message-ID: hi all, can someone out there tell me if there is a company that makes custom packet radio cables? I have an Icom IC281h 2 meter radio that has jacks on the back for packet connections. I don't want to use a cable that goes into the front mick cable. If possible I would like it to have a cap on it that would cover all the wires and will hold both plugs. any help would be appreciated. thanks 73 gary -- gary metzler (kn4ox) e-mail gmetzler@gate.net ...men can't ask for directions on the internet either! -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6 mQBtAzDydiQAAAEDALhpne0iwyAKMi/HAz4czqLd/HcOk0slTqJ7RsX6IjboMOBF +L4AkOYkJ8sSTR8n3s2WH3r6Vmq5sb5ZeXr55lisUxluhM5Wl8wR6kfZr2ifqeaY D9Rk51ISUzCV6rqBmQAFEbQgZ2FyeSBtZXR6bGVyIDxnbWV0emxlckBnYXRlLm5l dD4= =qBk6 -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:46:47 1996 From: rdavis@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Robert Davis) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Digicom on the Commodore SX64 Date: 20 Mar 1996 09:44:29 -0700 Message-ID: <4ipcld$n3f@nyx10.cs.du.edu> References: <4io10p$il9@cantua.canterbury.ac.nz> ingramdm@elec.canterbury.ac.nz (Dave Ingram) writes: >I have recently got hold of the plans for the Digicom packet modem >for a C64 (the ancestor of the Baycom). The wiring plan shows that >it should be connected to the Cassette port of the C64. The problem >I have is that I own an SX64 (built in 5" CRT and floppy drive) >which has no cassette port. Is there a variant of the digicom >software that works with the user port? >If you have any information, please let me know. >Thanks in advance, > Dave Ingram, ZL3TDI >-- >Dave Ingram -- Dare to be different - OS/2 Warp Connect -- >Masters Student, Power Electronics Research >Department of Electrical & Electronic Engineering >University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand It is possible to create the equivalent of a cassette port on the SX-64. You will need a C-64 schematic and an SX-64 schematic. You run a few wires from your connector of choice to the SX-64 cpu board. It is a pain to do it, but it can be done. -- rdavis@nyx.net Robert (Bob) Davis Amateur Radio K0FPC Emporia, Kansas From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:46:48 1996 From: Russ Roslewski Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Drake TR-22 for packet? Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 17:57:45 -0700 Message-ID: <31476F09.5DEB@usafa.af.mil> Hi! Has anyone had any experience with using a Drake TR-22 for 1200 baud packet? We've got a couple in the Air Force Academy cadet club that aren't doing anything, so I figured we might as well set one up for packet and free up the radio we're using now. Unfortunately, we have absolutely no documentation for it, and therefore don't know which mic pins are which. Anybody out there that could help? Thanks, Russ KI7FL -- roslewskirb96.cs26@usafa.af.mil __|__ PP-ASEL (AOPA #01215297) KI7FL (DM79na) CAP _______(*)_______ "Pick me up so high...where eagles fly!" - Sammy Hagar o/ \o "This content in no way reflects the opinions, standards, or policy of the United States Air Force Academy or the United States government." From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:46:49 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: DROP From: david_highfield@sahara.com (David Highfield) Distribution: world Message-ID: <292.7255.27.0N3666CF@sahara.com> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 96 07:20:00 +0300 Control message generated by OLXWin 1.0 From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:46:50 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: DROP From: david_highfield@sahara.com (David Highfield) Distribution: world Message-ID: <292.7256.27.0N3666D0@sahara.com> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 96 07:30:00 +0300 Control message generated by OLXWin 1.0 From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:46:50 1996 From: lazeraud@sentex.net (Tedd Doda) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: FBB not disconnecting users? Date: 19 Mar 1996 10:17:18 GMT Message-ID: <4im1je$hvi@granite.sentex.net> Greetings. I just got FBB 5.15c up and running(!). I only have one puzzle to fix, when a user connects then trys a "b" for disconnect, the board will send him the usual "you have been connected for ***** m/s CPU time****, 73, then logs him right back on? Has anyone had this problem? I've checked all the .ini and .txt files and can't see anything out of place. I'm running it with BPQ. bcnu, Tedd Doda, CET (Lazer Audio and Electronics/ Baden, Ont. Canada) packet ve3tjd@va3sed ******* Running FBB under Warp Connect! e-mail lazeraud@sentex.net** Running the IAK in Warp Connect! [Team OS/2 in Canada] From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:46:52 1996 From: ljackson@kudonet.com (Lee Jackson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: FCC THREAT TO INTERNET Date: 15 Mar 1996 15:22:45 -0800 Message-ID: Check this out... **************************************************************** * GOVERNMENT THREAT TO INTERNET * **************************************************************** The FCC is considering a petition, filed March 4, to exercise JURISDICTION over the INTERNET and make usage of Internet Telephony software ILLEGAL. This is a serious threat to the Internet! The FCC is moving along at an astounding pace. They have already issued a Public Notice for comments, which are due April 8, 1996. After this, they will be "considering" what action to take. The bureaucrats must be stopped NOW, before it is too late! Let your elected representatives know your opinions. for more info...check out the URL: http://www.freetel.com/fcc.htm PLEASE FORWARD THIS TO FRIENDS AND APPROPRIATE NEWS GROUPS *************************************************************** From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:46:52 1996 From: Will Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: ForSale HAL P38 Date: 18 Mar 1996 05:03:49 GMT Message-ID: <4iiqrl$af1@mandolin.qnet.com> I have for sale a HAL P38 Board, comes with RagChew and Express 3.5 software. $300.00 Please E-Mail kn6dv@qnet.com Thanks 73 Will From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:46:53 1996 From: jayt@comtch.iea.com (Jay Townsend) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: HAL P38 Date: 20 Mar 1996 16:31:13 GMT Message-ID: <4ipbsh$j4q@krel.iea.com> There is no difference in earlier/later models of the P38 from Hal that I am aware. The only difference is in software which is one of the most important parts of the HAL. Changes in the code are available from HAL or from the IDRA ftp site. ftp.iea.com /public/adrs/p38 or thru the http://www.iea.com/~adrs IDRA Website. The P38 comes with a communications program and there are several others available as well. -- Jay Townsend, WS7I < jayt@iea.com > From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:46:54 1996 From: jchol@aol.com (JCHol) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,sci.electronics Subject: Re: Ham Radio Online March 11th, 1996 Date: 15 Mar 1996 19:41:11 -0500 Message-ID: <4id2n7$n7c@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <4hvrho$j2g@news.accessone.com> Reply-To: jchol@aol.com (JCHol) I have visited the site twice. Really enjoyed the article about launching wires into trees. Keep up the good work. 73 de John, WA5TWL From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:46:55 1996 From: jpheulin@ix.netcom.com(Jean-Pierre Heulin ) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: help! KISS & KPC-9612! Date: 13 Mar 1996 14:43:39 GMT Message-ID: <4i6mur$856@reader2.ix.netcom.com> References: <4i1g03$fn1@eldborg.rhi.hi.is> In <4i1g03$fn1@eldborg.rhi.hi.is> rikhardu@rhi.hi.is (Rikhardur Sveinsson) writes: > >I have a Kantronics KPC-9612 with version 5.2... > >Is there a BUG???? I have been trying to get this modem to >work with JNOS with out luck...The only response I get >is very fast blink of tha STA led.! > >The cable is DB25<->DB25 and I connected >2-2 3-3 4-4 5-5 6-6 7-7 8-8 20-20 > >What could be wrong..? > >Benedikt Sveinsson > >TF3BNT > In Command mode, did you type INT KISS then RESET to switch it to KISS mode. Is the TNC working with a regular communication program before you switch to KISS mode. Make it work with a simple com program first then turn KISS mode on then run Jnos. If you are not even sure the cord is good, you are in trouble. Only mess with Jnos when you know your computer and the TNC are talking. You HAVE to do that as the TNC is never in KISS mode at turn on. Good luck and 73 de Jean-Pierre KC6JET From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:46:57 1996 From: kurpiers@zeus.uet.e-technik.th-darmstadt.de (Alexander Kurpiers) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.networking,aus.radio.amateur.digital Subject: Re: HELP-Packet drivers,Ethernet,AX@%,JNOS/KA9Q Questions Date: 13 Mar 1996 16:15:00 GMT Message-ID: <4i6sa4$mbp@rs18.hrz.th-darmstadt.de> References: <4hofrl$1ec@foxhound.dsto.gov.au> To: Andy Walton In article <4hofrl$1ec@foxhound.dsto.gov.au>, Andy Walton writes: |> What I would really like to do would be to run the ax25 packet driver on t he PC in the ham radio shack, have the ax25 packets route= |> d up the ethernet cable to to remote PC, and run NOS on the remote PC by me ans of attaching an ethernet packet driver to it instead = |> of the ax25 packet driver. Have a look at PC/Flexnet. It does just what you need. It has a driver for Bay com modems and may use PD drivers to connect two computers via ethernet. Furthermore it can emulate TFPCX so you still can use GP. Have a look at http://www.th-darmstadt.de/diverses/afthd/flexnet 73 Alexander DL8AAU From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:46:58 1996 From: kwick@mitre.org (Ken Wickwire) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: HF Packet Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 12:53:10 -0300 Message-ID: References: <4il2ii$acl@newsbf02.news.aol.com> In article <4il2ii$acl@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, kf9ug@aol.com (Kf9ug) wrote: > I have used HF packet with great success. Once night I was DXing on 20m > packet to V31 land and it was faster than a link locally on VHF. There is > alot > of fun to be had running HF packet. Hope to catch you on 20m! > vy 73s de Michael From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:46:59 1996 From: Brian Webb <102670.1206@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: de.comm.ham,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: HTX-212 & MFJ-1270C TNC Date: 16 Mar 1996 21:40:52 GMT Message-ID: <4ifch4$3s8$1@mhadg.production.compuserve.com> Several weeks ago I purchased a Radio Shack HTX-212 mobile 2-meter radio. I own an MFJ-1270C TNC. What I'd like to do is hook these two units together so I can operate on packet. Here are some questions: 1. Does anybody sell a pre-made HTX-212 to MFJ-1270C interface cable? 2. If I have to make my own cable, does anybody have a schematic? 3. Where can I buy an extra modular mic plug of the type used on the HTX-212? 4. Have any of you interfaced these rigs and gotten them to work? If so, is there anything that I should know? Regards, Brian Webb, KD6NRP Thousand Oaks, CA From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:47:00 1996 From: burch@netline.net (Burch Akin) Newsgroups: de.comm.ham,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: Re: HTX-212 & MFJ-1270C TNC Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 19:44:10 GMT Message-ID: <4in2vm$jdh@tesla.netline.net> References: <4ifch4$3s8$1@mhadg.production.compuserve.com> Brian Webb <102670.1206@CompuServe.COM> wrote: >Several weeks ago I purchased a Radio Shack HTX-212 mobile >2-meter radio. I own an MFJ-1270C TNC. What I'd like to do is >hook these two units together so I can operate on packet. >Here are some questions: >1. Does anybody sell a pre-made HTX-212 to MFJ-1270C interface >cable? >2. If I have to make my own cable, does anybody have a schematic? >3. Where can I buy an extra modular mic plug of the type used on >the HTX-212? >4. Have any of you interfaced these rigs and gotten them to work? >If so, is there anything that I should know? >Regards, >Brian Webb, KD6NRP >Thousand Oaks, CA I have the same radio and TNC. I had to make my own cable. If you call MFJ they will mail you a schematic. I think the parts costs under $5. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:47:02 1996 From: Tim Deagan Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Internet gateways from TexNet? Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 09:05:42 -0600 Message-ID: <314835C6.7CB4@thinkagain.com> de new packeteer KC5QFG, Thanks to some of the help I recieved here I've gotten my packet station working robustly, connecting to the AUSTIN Texnet node. I've read bulletins, weather and left myself mail to verify everyting's working. Can any TexNet users assist me in determining if there is an Internet gateway accessible from TexNet and what the syntax of an address to use such a gateway would look like? On a related note,I'd like to send some packet mail to a buddy in Florida (Tallahassee) N1QBS. How do I go about determining a sequence of packet stations, networks or PBBS's to route to him? Thanks in advance, --Tim KC5QFG tim@thinkagain.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:47:03 1996 From: stan@mutadv.com (Stan Huntting) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment Subject: KaWin - New Version! Date: 15 Mar 1996 14:07:15 GMT Message-ID: <4ibtij$1ss@news-2.csn.net> KaWin 6.35 adds support for the Buckmaster Hamcall CDROM and a dozen more new features and improvements. KaWin 6.35 is available for immediate download from the KaWin Home Page. 73, Stan. -- Stan Huntting, KF0IA Email: stan@mutadv.com Fax: 303 444 2314 KaWin home page: http://www.mutadv.com/kawin/ Postal address: 4655 Pleasant Ridge Rd., Boulder, CO 80301-1731, USA From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:47:04 1996 From: grc@arn.NET (Scott\, G.R. \, Cundiff) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Locking TheNet routes Date: 17 Mar 96 21:48:19 GMT Message-ID: <1.5.4b12.32.19960317214819.00662ffc@mailbox.arn.net> I am (trying to be) sysop of a Z80 based node running TheNet here, and am looking for information on how to "lock" a route in. Thanks for your helpful response! 73, Scott ============================================================= G.R. "Scott" Cundiff -- Borger, Texas Internet: grc@arn.net ham: N5ASD@N5ASD.#WTX.TX.USA.NOAM ============================================================= From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:47:05 1996 From: timcook@erinet.com (Tim Cook) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Looking For Software Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 17:20:21 GMT Message-ID: <4ik66j$p3b@eri1.erinet.com> I am looking for a good package to use with my pk-232. I had used XPCOM in the past, but don't know if KF7XP still produces the program or not. I know there are others out there. Any suggestions? Is XPCOM still being produced? How about AEA Packratt for Windows? I'll buy commercial software, or use freeware, just want something that works well and is relatively bug free... Please email with any info.. Thanks Tim NZ8J From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:47:06 1996 From: wb2kfo@i-2000.com (Harry) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: mfj swy analyzer is sold Date: 15 Mar 1996 02:37:49 GMT Message-ID: <4ial5t$fpm@i-2000.com> References: <4ht979$6dn@i-2000.com> Thank you for the response. The MFJ swr analyzer is sold. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:47:06 1996 From: jwc@a.crl.com (Jim Chandler) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: MFJ-1214 RTTY Unit and FT-990 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 96 02:51:24 GMT Message-ID: <4ialvc$94_001@nnrp.crl.com> I would like to talk to anyone that has interfaced an MFJ-1214 CW/RTTY interface to a Yeasu 990. Thanks Jim Chandler, N0VAH jwc@a.crl.com 1024-bit Key fingerprint = 74 B4 7C BF 51 ED A6 00 F5 2C 6E 99 A7 0D 29 D2 2048-bit Key fingerprint = 82 30 8D 56 43 22 3A 2F 4D EA 37 DE B9 B4 21 52 From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:47:08 1996 From: cj@hth.com (Christer Johansson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.shortwave Subject: Re: Need Radio Clock Info. Date: Mon, 11 Mar 1996 17:17:52 GMT Message-ID: <4i1nb6$j24@prometheus.algonet.se> References: <4hl1tj$90r$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> Reply-To: cj@hth.com Hi Parker, Parker Kent <100654.646@CompuServe.COM> wrote: >I need any information I can get in >reguards to the radio signals sent from Germany >across Europe giving time information for >Radio Clocks. Point your Web browser to the following URL... http://www.tu-bs.de/rz/sysadmin/dienste/ntp/clock.txt.html Hope this helps, /Christer -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- * High Tech Horizon - Christer Johansson - E-mail: cj@hth.com * -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- * Vi saljer Parallax, Inc. BASIC Stamp's produkter i Skandinavien * >> World Wide Web On-Line Catalog - http://www.hth.com << -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:47:09 1996 From: tstader@aol.com (TSTADER) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: New Web Site for Northeast Regional All Hazard Conference Date: 19 Mar 1996 19:20:10 -0500 Message-ID: <4inivq$5io@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Reply-To: tstader@aol.com (TSTADER) The Massachusetts Emergency Management Agency has established a Web site. The latest information on the Northeast Regional All Hazard Conference, June 26-28, 1996 in Boston can be found there. The URL is http://www.magnet.state.ma.us/mema Please direct your telephone calls on this conference to Mr. Kevin Tully, Area 1 Director, Massachusetts Emergency Management Agency, (508) 640-9500 Fax (508) 851-8218. ========= On a side note.... I am looking for hams that are either ARES or RACES afiliated who might be interested in manning a Amateur Radio booth at this conference. We are looking for those who might be willing to show portable packet operation as well as APRS. Also looking for those that may have setup portable repeaters to be brought into a site and used in an emergency event. Please contact me if you are willing to come and join us, show off your skills as an emergency communicator and fabricator! Please e-mail me at this address or at tstader@i2t.com. Terry Stader - KA8SCP/1 MEMA Area 1 Communications/RACES Officer From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:47:10 1996 From: medcalf@idir.net (gloria medcalf) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: NTS Messages via Packet BBSs (new web-site article) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 11:11:08 -0600 Message-ID: Do you want to use packet radio to send messages to your non-packet friends or even to your non-amateur friends? You can - by sending NTS (National Traffic System) messages. The article at the URL below explains how to do it. Article URL: http://www.idir.net/~medcalf/ztx/nts.html From the home page at http://www.idir.net/~medcalf/ztx/ you can link to other articles mostly about digital modes. The articles may be reprinted in amateur radio club newsletters provided that credit is given to the author. The site also contains diagrams for wiring radios to tncs. 73 gloria ka5ztx medcalf@idir.net From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:47:11 1996 From: p.illmayer@sno.mts.dec.com () Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Packet Bulletin Availability Date: Tue, 12 Mar 1996 23:53:54 GMT Message-ID: <4i4vdn$54b@funlwb2.stl.dec.com> References: <4hop09$rj9@www.gnofn.org> dpc01@www.gnofn.org (Daniel P Cristina) wrote: >Thanks to all that reply: >Is there a site that is accessable via internet to retrieve current >packet bulletins, etc.; @WW, @ALLUS. >Would prefer to be able to d/l zipped files if possible to be imported >int a MSYS packet system here in New Orleans. >There are many packet systems available, but most don't have the buls >available in file form. >Thanks for any help and direction... >Danny/N5OMG Danny Goto N0rse, sm6gwq..... ftp://spieg.interealm.com/pub/n0rse From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:47:12 1996 From: leigh@rain.org (Leigh) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Packet>Internet E-Mail GatewayY Date: 18 Mar 1996 04:35:49 GMT Message-ID: <4iip75$43k@news.rain.org> A friend is considering getting her amateur radio license, and is especially interested in the possibility of a Packet/Internet e-mail gateway. I've heard that such sites exist (does W6VIO still have one?) but don't know for sure of any current ones. FWIW, we live in Southern California. Thanks in advance and 73 from Leigh Marrin/KM6JE@K6TZ in Santa Barbara. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:47:13 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Packet>Internet E-Mail GatewayY From: david@stat.com (David Dodell) Reply-To: david@stat.com (David Dodell) Distribution: world Message-ID: <04k1kD12w165w@stat.com> References: <4iip75$43k@news.rain.org> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 96 18:39:20 MST leigh@rain.org (Leigh) writes: > A friend is considering getting her amateur radio license, and is > especially interested in the possibility of a Packet/Internet e-mail > gateway. I've heard that such sites exist (does W6VIO still have one?) > but don't know for sure of any current ones. FWIW, we live in Southern > California. How to Use the WB7TPY Packet <-> Internet Gateway First, some brief operational notes: (1) Messages must not contain any foul language, or commercial purpose. (2) Messages can only be sent to countries that the United States has a third-party agreement. All others will be destroyed. (3) Messages from the internet should be less then 5K in length. No files should be sent. (4) If you have questions, please do not hesitate to contact me either on packet radio: WB7TPY@WB7TPY.AZ.USA.NA -or- Internet : david@stat.com (5) Have fun. Use the gateway as much as you like. That is what it is there for. ------ From Internet to Packet ------ Send mail to the internet address of: gate@stat.com The first line of text must contain a full packet address, preceded with the word "Packet:" For example, mail to my packet address, would have the first line of text; Packet: wb7tpy@wb7tpy.az.usa.na ** NOTE: this line MUST be left justified. ------ From Packet to Internet ------ Send as private mail (never a bulletin) to the packet address of: gate@wb7tpy.az.usa.na The first line of text must contain a full domained internet address, proceeded with the word "Internet:" For example, mail to my internet address, would have the first line of text; Internet: david@primenet.com *** Remember, this has to be left justified --- Internet: david@stat.com FAX: +1 (602) 451-6135 WWW: http://www.stat.com/~david From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:47:15 1996 From: dmeredith@phx-az.com (Daniel Meredith) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Packet>Internet E-Mail GatewayY Date: 18 Mar 1996 20:26:01 -0700 Message-ID: <4il9gr$13k_002@primenet.primenet.com> References: <4iip75$43k@news.rain.org> You can use the WB7TPY gateway in Scottsdale, Arizona... Email david@stat.com for more information... He provides a very reliable service and was the very first to offer such a service nearly 4-5 years ago. Daniel In article <4iip75$43k@news.rain.org>, leigh@rain.org (Leigh) wrote: >A friend is considering getting her amateur radio license, and is >especially interested in the possibility of a Packet/Internet e-mail >gateway. I've heard that such sites exist (does W6VIO still have one?) >but don't know for sure of any current ones. FWIW, we live in Southern >California. > >Thanks in advance and 73 from Leigh Marrin/KM6JE@K6TZ in Santa Barbara. > From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:47:17 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: Problem with PK-232 (or the op) Message-ID: <1996Mar16.124151.6259@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: <1996Mar15.150407.1@ccsua.ctstateu.edu> Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 12:41:51 GMT In article <1996Mar15.150407.1@ccsua.ctstateu.edu> white_hae@ccsua.ctstateu.ed u writes: >I just acquired a PK-232 with 1988 ROM, TAPR modem disconnect, and >TAPR DCD state machine upgrade. > >Comms between the radio and PK-232 appear to work fine; monitoring >RTTY & CW on another radio showed no transmit problems, and the >tuning display behaves normally when tuning in a RTTY or CW sigs. > >The start-up screen is displayed on my PC when the PK-232 is booted, >and I can send commands to the PK-232 from the PC. However, no >received info from the radio is forwarded to the PC. A breakout >box on the PK-232's serial port shows commands moving fine but >no radio sigs.....and as I said, the tune display on the PK-232 >shows that a true RTTY sig (etc) is being received. > >I'm stumped. Is my hamfest bargain FUBAR? Well lets not give up yet, Harry. You say the signon screen is displayed, do you mean the signon banner and then the cmd: prompt, or are you using some sort of canned software? If the latter, try using a regular comm program (like Procomm) and make sure you're really getting communications from the PK232. Do a status request and make sure monitor is ON. If it isn't, data will only be displayed when you are connected to another station. If the RS-232 link isn't really working both ways, you need to look at the status lines. DSR should be asserted, else your comm software may ignore incoming data. DTR probably needs to be asserted too. You could try switching to software flow control (XON and XOFF) if you suspect hardware flow control isn't configured correctly. If those are Ok, you may have a bad driver chip in the TNC. But assuming that RS-232 is working bidirectionally, and that the TNC firmware is configured to pass monitored data, then you should look at the TNC's DCD. You say that the unit has the TAPR DCD mod and disconnect header in it. That may be the problem. DCD on the PK-232 is normally like a "squelch" control. The knob on the front sets a threshold level below which data is ignored as noise. If you didn't have the DCD state machine on board, adjustment of the front panel knob would be required to get DCD action. The DCD state machine mod is *supposed* to only work for packet, so the knob on the front should still be active for RTTY. Are you setting it correctly? Can you turn it counterclockwise on noise and get the DCD LED on the panel to light? If not, the DCD mod may have been installed incorrectly, or the disconnect header may not have a jumper in place to pass DCD. This could be the case if the unit has been used with an external modem. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:47:18 1996 From: kjones@sun-link.com (Ken Jones) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Problem with PK-232 (or the op) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 19:24:53 GMT Message-ID: <314a6789.105645831@news.netrax.net> References: <1996Mar15.150407.1@ccsua.ctstateu.edu> About all I can offer is that a nine-pin RS232 cable is required to connect to the PC...a twenty-five wire cable is a known problem causer, but not this case to my knowledge. It rather causes distorted transmitted signals. Perhaps there's more to it than I realize. Does your b.o.b. show + and - sigs on the interface 2 and 3 pins? Have you checked to ensure that the jumpers are set for PC rather than Commodore signalling? Seems I recall something about TTL vs RS-232 data levels... Sorry to be so vague... Good luck! 73 73, Ken Jones ( mailto:kjones@sun-link.com ) ( CIS:73135,1243 ) KB3JA -- Maidenhead: FM19mu SKYWARN observer in York Co. PA, listening 147.330 W3MUM/R PGP Fingerprint FE99B25D; key avail on public servers From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:47:19 1996 From: Horace Ory Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Q: Alinco 1200 @ 9600b Date: 16 Mar 1996 03:58:42 GMT Message-ID: <4ide9i$32f@oly.olympic.net> References: <4i9uen$43c@news2.nkn.net> To: jack@cyberloans.com I'm using the 1200TH2 (1200 modified by Alinco for 9600 bps) with TXDelay of 20 (200 msec) and it works well. If I try smaller TXD, performance degrades, and at TXD=15 (150 msec) it just doesn't work. The 9600 bps mods used by Alinco are the same as publically available for the 1200. I think I have them around somewhere, so if you can't find them, let me know and I'll send them. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:47:20 1996 From: William Vaughn Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Q: MFJ 2mtr Data Radios Date: 18 Mar 1996 03:23:20 GMT Message-ID: <4iikv8$ake@olympus.net> References: <4i9u8s$43c@news2.nkn.net> <4icuru$72g@itnews.sc.intel.com> I purchased one of these little beuties and threw it on the service monitor. I do not like them. The published sensitivity .25uv is a dream. I do not consider .65uv acceptable and my unit turned out 1uv. It also has a problem in tx in that the crystal starts far off freq and comes on freq after about a second. Not my idea of a good data radio. I doubt if this hog would work at 9600 since it is marginal at 1200. Go buy a dr-1200 you will be happier since it is a real radio. good luck 73 Bill From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:47:21 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: Q: MFJ 2mtr Data Radios Message-ID: <1996Mar20.021213.20436@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: <4i9u8s$43c@news2.nkn.net> <4icuru$72g@itnews.sc.intel.com> <4iikv8$ake@olympus.net> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 02:12:13 GMT In article <4iikv8$ake@olympus.net> William Vaughn writes: > >I purchased one of these little beuties and threw it on the service >monitor. I do not like them. The published sensitivity .25uv is a dream. >I do not consider .65uv acceptable and my unit turned out 1uv. It also >has a problem in tx in that the crystal starts far off freq and comes on >freq after about a second. Not my idea of a good data radio. I doubt if >this hog would work at 9600 since it is marginal at 1200. Go buy a >dr-1200 you will be happier since it is a real radio. >good luck 73 Bill You seem to forget what you bought, Bill. This is a *MFJ* radio. You're responsible for final tuneup and quality control, that's why it's so cheap. It's a good basic design, and it can be tweaked to meet its specs. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:47:22 1996 From: recurry@inside.intel.com (Ron Curry) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Q: MFJ 2mtr Data Radios Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 23:31:26 GMT Message-ID: <4icuru$72g@itnews.sc.intel.com> References: <4i9u8s$43c@news2.nkn.net> jack@cyberloans.com wrote: > Does anyone have any experience with the MFJ Data Radio running on a >9600b link? I read the Apr96 ( or was it Mar96 ) that had a small, write up >on it. The article indicated that it had a poor receiver and that the >author didn't try and do any 9600b stuff. Any info on it's performance or >mods needed for 9600b would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. >73's de Jack - kf5mg >Internet / hobby - kf5mg@kf5mg.ampr.org - home (817) 488-4386 > work - jack@cyberloans.com - work (214) 516-6270 >+=========================================================================+ >+ I am Homer of Borg.... prepare to be assim... oooo... Donuts... + >+=========================================================================+ Actually this little radio works pretty good unless you have an RF saturated environment like a mountain top site. Most of the problems people have is that it is a crystal controlled radio and therefore needs to be aligned if you change crystals and want it to work well. I have several of these running and the work well. I can get better than .65 uv SNAD on the receiver with my service monitor. I recommend it. Ron Curry From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:47:23 1996 From: dick@tmh.ORG (Dick Mock) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Should... Contests? Date: 20 Mar 96 23:32:17 GMT Message-ID: <96032061272@tmh.org> Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 15:53:18 GMT >From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) >Subject: Should the ARRL and CQ Publications limit Contesting on HF? > >Now operating split does consume twice the bandwidth as operating >on a single channel. So if you are concerned about waste of bandwidth, >then the sensible thing would be to allow US phone operators to operate >down in the common frequency range of foreign stations. We could always >put CW ops up at the top of the band with the foreign broadcasters. >Since we're continously told that "Morse gets through when nothing else >will", the interference shouldn't be a bother. >Gary -- What a sterling Idea!! ;) It would work! That solves a lot of problems on 40. Actually I think we FSK folks could cope there almost as well. Our throughput would be almost as good as CW. ;) But the broadcasters might complain about all those crickets and birdies. They are more of a problem to the audio audience because of the power duty cycle and the endless rythm of the FSK signals. :( Dick dick@tmh.org ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:47:24 1996 From: Will Flor Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Spread Spectrum QRP Date: 17 Mar 1996 02:01:11 GMT Message-ID: <4ifrp7$oft@news.inc.net> References: <4i37ct$a7p@newsbf02.news.aol.com> alanpercy@aol.com (AlanPercy) wrote: >Tell us what equipment you are using!!! > > We here in the Buffalo area are trying to setup a network of Part 15 S.S. >systems for gaining access to the Internet, but we can't decide which way >to go! Some of the BreezeCom stuff looks really great, but before we >spend the money, I would love a personal recommendation. > >Tell us more!!! > > If you have the $$buck$$, nothing beats the Percom wireless bridge 900 IMNSHO. We've used them for some time in implementing wireless WANs for commercial use rs, including the Experimental Aircraft Association. The stated throughput is 2MB , but the connection seems to be about 40% - 60% as fast as a landline-based 10-Base T Ethernet connection. Max range is a few miles. They're really, really nice, but out of my price range. Too bad, too, since my ISP (my employer) is only about 2 miles (as the RF flies) from my home, and within line-of-sight of the tower I hope to build someday. 73 de Will KB9JTT willf@rrgroup.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:47:25 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: cv282@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Mistie Mullarkey) Subject: Re: sucks Message-ID: Reply-To: cv282@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Mistie Mullarkey) References: <9603121800122859@chowda.com> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 04:10:03 GMT Richard Volpe (richard.volpe@chowda.com) writes: > this really sucks Really? Not for me. Then again I haven't gotten into all this cybersex yet. From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:47:26 1996 From: "S. Sampson" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: TEKK KS-1000 ?? Date: Sat, 16 Mar 1996 17:28:02 -0600 Message-ID: <314B4E82.5282@telepath.com> References: <4i1f4k$omr@tofu.alt.net> Richard Hallman (Richard hallman) wrote: > I just purchsed 2 of the new KS-1000l radios and are working WELL with the > PacComm Spirit II TNC.....Real Plug 'n Play!!! > > 73 Rich KI3V Reno Nevada Could you please keep the technical talk down! Your evaluation is far too technical :-) Steve "Model-T's work WELL--but I'd rather have a Buick..." From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:47:27 1996 From: p.illmayer@sno.mts.dec.com () Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: TEKK-900L mods for 19200 ???? Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 04:44:39 GMT Message-ID: <4iap6o$l51@funlwb2.stl.dec.com> Hello ALL I am interested in getting the TEKK 900 data radio to perform at 19200. I spoke with an Australian chap who said he had seen some messages from a German fellow that has managed this. Possibly you are only required to "tweek" the front end , I don't know. Any help would be greatly appreciated..... Cheers..Peter..vk2yx From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:47:28 1996 From: sparkfel@primenet.com (Mark Fellhauer) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Tempo MPP-1 Printing TNC Date: 13 Mar 1996 21:28:02 -0700 Message-ID: <31479bf4.6798177@news.primenet.com> I recently aquired a Tempo MPP-1 TNC and am interested in starting a dialog with any other Tempo/AR1200 owners. Specifically, I am looking for the 5-pin Mini-DIN-like TNC to radio connector. A call to Henry Radio was of little help as they no longer distribute the unit, nor do they have any more cables. I have been able to find the female part of this connector locally. but no one has ever seen a cable like this that I can find in the Phoenix area. Does anyone know of a supplier for these connectors? Also, I only have the basic manual and would gladly pay a small fee for a copy of the technical manual/schematic. Even a complete breakdown of the MPP-1's unique commands would be helpful. I am aware of the birdie this unit causes on 145.01. I'm aware there is a cure, but what is it? I understand the 80 mm paper rolls are difficult and expensive to find. Does anyone know of a good supplier for this paper? I'm also aware, as I used to work in a print shop, that it is quite possible to buy wider thermal paper rolls and cut them down with a band saw. Has anyone done this? Generally, I am interested in any tidbits, dirt, amusing anecdotes, unusual uses, etc. of the Tempo MPP-1/AR1200. Please respond via personal e-mail. 73, Mark Fellhauer KC7BXS ThunderBird ARC packet coordinator sparkfel@primenet.com Are there any interesting hacks/mods/Easter Eggs for this From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:47:29 1996 From: edlangjr@esinet.net (Ed Lang) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: TNC Which one? Please help` Date: Tue, 19 Mar 96 12:25:54 GMT Message-ID: <4im92d$n6q@esinet1.esinet.net> I have read posts here and have asked this question to others. Now I ask you! I will buy a TNC in the next few days and would like to make the right choice the first time. I will want to use RTTY, Pactor, Amtor, Packet and maybe CW. I run Win95 and have a IC-736 HF rig and an Alinco DR-110 VHF rig. I would like to hear from you as to your opinion of a good TNC and why you like it. My top three choices now are: MFJ-1278B or 1278B/DSP (no Win software that I know of) KAM+ and KaWin software PK-232MBX and Packratt win or PKGold I have not listed the TNC in any order. Thank you for your help! 73 Ed Lang KC4YLX edlangjr@esinet.net From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:47:30 1996 From: edward@winternet.com (Robert Edward) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Trouble returning to command mode with MFJ-1278 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 00:06:08 -0600 Message-ID: I'm currently borrowing a friend's MFJ-1278, and have been able to try it out only on 2m packet. The unit will power up, communicate with my term program, and receive incoming packets. However, whenever I connect to another station, the 1278 locks up after a successful connection. I can't get it to return to command mode (I have confirmed that the COMMAND character is Control-C), nor will it send outgoing packets in converse mode. I've tried resetting the unit by removing the lithium battery, but still experience the trouble. I'd appreciate any advice about what's going on and what can be done to fix the trouble. Bobby Edward WB5MJK Minneapolis, Minnesota e-mail: edward@winternet.com Courage HANDI-HAM System Volunteer HANDI-HAM Web Site: http://www.mtn.org/~handiham/ From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:47:31 1996 From: AM@infocom.DK (Allan Moeller) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: wa8ded.dll ? Date: 13 Mar 96 20:13:00 GMT Message-ID: <31472CFA@infocom.infocom> Hello Do anyone know what wa8ded.dll is, my BBS did receive it via auto7p, is it a driver for hostmode for windows, like tfkiss or tfpcr ? 73 de Allan oz1dsk@infocom.dk From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:47:31 1996 From: Jim Cummings Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: WTD: Ottawa packet group PI or PI2 board Date: 14 Mar 1996 19:19:45 GMT Message-ID: <4i9rgi$air@crc-news.doc.ca> References: To: kbanke@qualcomm.com kbanke@qualcomm.com (Kerry Banke) wrote: > > I am in the process of trying to set up a pair of Grapes 56Kb modems to >work through our San Diego Microwave Group 10 GHz wideband repeater. I >need to borrow or purchase two Ottawa PI or PI2 boards. I understand these >boards available from the Ottawa packet group. Does anyone have boards >they'd like to sell or loan or have the contact info as to where to buy >these? Thanks - Kerry N6IZW - All the info that you want can be found at: http://hydra.carleton.ca/info/pi2b.html 73 and live better digitally Jim, VE3XJ From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:47:32 1996 From: Simon gw7soz Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: WWW Radio Pages Date: 17 Mar 1996 11:13:10 GMT Message-ID: <4igs46$5m9@osfb.aber.ac.uk> References: <31488b3b.15812144@news.innotts.co.uk> <3149B2C4.41C67EA6@paisley.ac.uk> hi I also have an amateur radio page: http://www.aber.ac.uk/~srj5 73 de Simon From lwbyppp@epix.net Thu Mar 21 13:47:33 1996 From: asperges@innotts.co.uk (Jeremy Boot) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: WWW Radio Pages Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 21:44:49 GMT Message-ID: <31488b3b.15812144@news.innotts.co.uk> Reply-To: asperges@innotts.co.uk It nearly drove me mad doing it. It might not work on your browser, but it does on mine (Netscape Gold 2): http://www.innotts.co.uk/~asperges/ Radio Pages - now with ADDED Java! Enjoy, as they say..... Jeremy G4NJH asperges@innotts.co.uk [Home, Am Radio, SWL pages: http://www.innotts.co.uk/~asperges/ ] From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:22:33 1996 From: jtaylor@huachuca-emh8.army.mil (Jack Taylor) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: 13-509@9k6? Date: 22 Mar 96 16:11:34 GMT Message-ID: <199603221617.IAA00504@UCSD.EDU> I've been attempting to set up two Midland 13-509 220 rigs for 9k6 using TAPR modems. The transmit portion, adding a varator diode to the crystal oscillator stage works well. However, the eye pattern out of the discriminator (before the deemphasis ckt) looks TERRIBLE on both radios. The TAPR modems have EPROMS which apparently can be coded for different receiver audio responses. Unlike the G3RUH style modem, there are NO jumper settings available with which to adjust EPROM response, nor do the TAPR modems I have, contain ANY documentation on this topic. Has anyone in the group had success with using TAPR 9k6 modems with the Midland 13-509? 73 de Jack From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:22:34 1996 From: Noel Gaddo <101326.2010@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: 32bit packet prog. ? Date: 21 Mar 1996 18:09:15 GMT Message-ID: <4is60b$c2i$1@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> I'm looking for a 32bit packet programme to use with Windows95 Are there any programs like this available? So yes.. where? Thanks in advance.. Noel Gaddo. Warping out of reality at 28.800 bps. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:22:35 1996 From: quans@mbh.ORG (Simon Quantrill) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: 4800Bd Date: 21 Mar 96 13:58:16 GMT Message-ID: <1887769940@p18.f101.n323.z205.mbh.org> Reply-To: quans@mbh.org Hello all, is there an external modem circuit anywhere that will bring 4k8 9k6 and up to my three 1200bd TNC2`s ???? Preferably circuit diagrams but any info e.g a ftp site! Thankls Simon quans@mbh.org pe1ray@pi8vnw From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:22:36 1996 From: mdecerbo@bbn.com (Mike Decerbo) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: 56k modem and UHF rig. Date: 22 Mar 1996 15:54:25 GMT Message-ID: <4iuifh$s98@info-server.bbn.com> References: <4imh3r$p6o@ns3.iamerica.net> In article <4imh3r$p6o@ns3.iamerica.net>, Brad Killebrew wrote: > >Hi Folks. > >I need to be pointed in the direction where I can find a 56k modem >(already built or kit is fine) and a UHF radio that can handle this >type of xfer. If you have Web access, take a look at http://www.mindspring.com/~bobm/ and especially the link to "Barry VE3JF's Hi-Speed Options", http://hydra.carleton.ca/articles/hispeed.html >I'm sick and tired of 1200 baud packet and I'm ready to upgrade. Go for it! 1200 baud may have been reasonable in the early 80s, but in the days of ISDN and cable modems it's ludicrous. We hams are supposed to be _ahead_ of the rest of the world... 73, Mike N1FYO From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:22:36 1996 From: ksproul@noc.rutgers.edu (Keith Sproul) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: APLink? APRS? Automated HF digital stations? Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 08:42:24 -0500 Message-ID: References: In article , anderson@ncrsun1.ncr.usace.army.mil (Kevin Anderson) wrote: > I'm looking for an elmer(s) to correspond with to help me > understand some digital systems. I wasn't finding the > info I needed/wanted in FAQs. > > APLink? > > APRS? > > Automated HF digital stations? > For information on APRS check out http://aprs.rutgers.edu/APRS/ -- Keith Sproul Ham Radio: WU2Z Student Housing Network Coordinator ksproul@noc.rutgers.edu Rutgers University Computing Services 908 445-3695 Work 908 445-2968 Fax http://www-ns.rutgers.edu/~ksproul/ 908 821-4828 Home From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:22:38 1996 From: muphaus@cris.com (Marv Uphaus) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Baycom & Laptops Date: 22 Mar 1996 23:01:14 -0500 Message-ID: References: <4imq4v$lrm@kodak.rdcs.Kodak.COM> Reply-To: muphaus@cris.com On 19 Mar 1996 17:16:15 GMT, you wrote: >I am attempting to run Baycom software with an older NEC >Multispeed Laptop (AT, I believe). I ran BayCom software very successfully for many years with all sorts of BayCom modems and computers... A year ago I bought a used IBM ThinkPad 500... BayCom exhibited all the symptoms that you described... After the first transmission it was stuck forever in "Send" mode... I thought that I could no longer use my BayCom modem on trips unless I purchased a new computer... Then I discovered a program called MUBAY... (That stands for MultiUser BAYcom.) It is written by a chap in the UK and is an EXCELLENT program... You can use it as a terminal program without registering it... However if you register it, it opens up multiple features, the greatest of which is a multi-user mailbox and mail gathering capabilities... The best part is Jon Welch, the author only charges $20 to register... The worst part is he wants it in British Sterling... I highly recommend the program... He has a home page on the Internet... I can't remember what it is... If you can't find it by searching for MUBAY, then post back and I will find it for you... > A recent opinion is that >the Baycom s/w needs type 65500 uarts to operate correctly and >that some laptops do not have them. This is false... My laptop has 16550's and it still would not run... MUBAY uses TFPCX as the replacement for BayCom's L2.EXE program... The problem seems to be a major defect in the L2.EXE program... BayCom authors do not understand how some serial ports work... The TFPCX author does understand... You CAN run your BayCom from ANY laptop...!!! Marv... K4BVG... ----------------------------------------------------------- Even when the experts all agree, they may well be mistaken. --Bertrand Russell PGP PUBLIC KEY posted at pgp.mit.edu ----------------------------------------------------------- -- Marv... ----------------------------------------------------------- Even when the experts all agree, they may well be mistaken. --Bertrand Russell PGP PUBLIC KEY posted at pgp.mit.edu ----------------------------------------------------------- From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:22:39 1996 From: Jim Devenport Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: C64 to Knwd Interface Date: Tue, 19 Mar 1996 12:13:25 -0700 Message-ID: <314F0755.76F1@lanl.gov> References: <314A5257.13A8@nbnet.nb.ca> I haven't this to control Kenwoods, but I have used the C64 to control various radios remotely via interface devices, such as Collins KWM-380 and Icom IC- 2AT. Your application should be easier to interface than a "486" since the C64 already input/outputs TTL levels via the userport whereas the 486 normally has to use an RS-232 to TTL level translator (which is all the the Kenwood "computer interface" consists of). One glitch that may prove troublesome is the CBM "ascii" has caps and lowercase letters reversed from normal ascii. -- |-------------------------------------------------------| |Jim Devenport WB5AOX | |All Standard Disclaimers Disclaimed | |My views rarely (if ever) reflect those of my employers| |HTTP://nis-www.lanl.gov/~jdport/ | |-------------------------------------------------------| From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:22:40 1996 From: ingramdm@elec.canterbury.ac.nz (Dave Ingram) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Digicom on the Commodore SX64 Date: 20 Mar 1996 04:19:37 GMT Message-ID: <4io10p$il9@cantua.canterbury.ac.nz> I have recently got hold of the plans for the Digicom packet modem for a C64 (the ancestor of the Baycom). The wiring plan shows that it should be connected to the Cassette port of the C64. The problem I have is that I own an SX64 (built in 5" CRT and floppy drive) which has no cassette port. Is there a variant of the digicom software that works with the user port? If you have any information, please let me know. Thanks in advance, Dave Ingram, ZL3TDI -- Dave Ingram -- Dare to be different - OS/2 Warp Connect -- Masters Student, Power Electronics Research Department of Electrical & Electronic Engineering University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:22:42 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: cliff@pgh.nauticom.net (Cliff Frescura K3LL) Subject: Re: Drake TR-22 for packet? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 18:36:23 GMT References: <31476F09.5DEB@usafa.af.mil> Open the radio up and follow where the wires go. The mic cable will have a shield on it. I have one that I bought from a guy who was using it on packet, but with low power (one to two watts) and a receiver that is not very selective, I would say forget it. Unless you happen to be very close to the BBS or other station you want to work. Good Luck, Cliff K3LL Russ Roslewski (roslewskirb96.cs26@usafa.af.mil) wrote: : Hi! : Has anyone had any experience with using a Drake TR-22 for 1200 baud : packet? We've got a couple in the Air Force Academy cadet club that aren't : doing anything, so I figured we might as well set one up for packet and free : up the radio we're using now. Unfortunately, we have absolutely no : documentation for it, and therefore don't know which mic pins are which. : Anybody out there that could help? : Thanks, : Russ KI7FL : -- : roslewskirb96.cs26@usafa.af.mil __|__ : PP-ASEL (AOPA #01215297) KI7FL (DM79na) CAP _______(*)_______ : "Pick me up so high...where eagles fly!" - Sammy Hagar o/ \o : "This content in no way reflects the opinions, standards, or policy of : the United States Air Force Academy or the United States government." -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ |cliff@nauticom.net "All bags are subject to search." | | k3ll@nauticom.net "Adapt, Migrate, or Die." | From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:22:43 1996 From: willi_r@mail.uwlax.edu (willi_r) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: HAL P38 Date: 23 Mar 1996 21:52:01 GMT Message-ID: <4j1rq1$i49@alfred.acs.uwlax.edu> References: <41203.tmedin@che2.che.umn.edu> In article <41203.tmedin@che2.che.umn.edu>, says: > >I'm planning on buying a used P-38, if i can find one, are there any >(quality control) problems with this modem, especially the earlier ones? I had earlier posted a comment to a ham wanting to sell his P38, and I may be the only ham in the world who has this problem, but I have never been able to use it in the Pactor mode for serious use. It almost always will lock up during the switch over from one station to the other. There have been a few exceptions, but it occurs about 80% of the time for me. It is very embarrasing since I always have to preface my contacts with " I am using the HAL P-38 and it often locks up so please kill everything and start over when and if this happens". Naturally a lot of my contacts just wont fool around with this constant rephasing and attempting to connect and get some thruput. It has been very very upsetting to me that my first experience after waiting almost three years to save the money for a good modem has resulted in complete disaster. It is possible that I have some quirky problem at my end causing all the difficulty, but you kind of wonder since when I ask other p38 users how the Pactor operation works, they will say it works great until they then admit that they dont really operate pactor with the p-38. I wouldnt mind hearing comments from other P-38 users who have great success or problems either way. Rick, KV9U From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:22:45 1996 From: vk7kob@ozemail.com.au (Robert Walker) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: help! KISS & KPC-9612! Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 17:54:55 GMT Message-ID: <3150837b.5306665@news.ozemail.com.au> References: <4i1g03$fn1@eldborg.rhi.hi.is> On 11 Mar 1996 15:14:11 GMT, rikhardu@rhi.hi.is (Rikhardur Sveinsson) wrote: >I have a Kantronics KPC-9612 with version 5.2... > >Is there a BUG???? I have been trying to get this modem to >work with JNOS with out luck...The only response I get >is very fast blink of tha STA led.! > >The cable is DB25<->DB25 and I connected >2-2 3-3 4-4 5-5 6-6 7-7 8-8 20-20 > >What could be wrong..? > >Benedikt Sveinsson > >TF3BNT > Hi! I've had exactly the same problem with my very recent purchase of a KPC9612 v6.0 and enquired around and found that Mr Kamtronics has, indeed, a Web page and with a URL that points to an email address to their service dept. Ain't you lucky!!!! Anyway, the problem in my case was that after I had issued the mandatory INT KISS (or XKISS) and the RESET command to get the TNC's CPU to re-read the Eprom and the cmos configuration, the goldarned thung just wouldn't go into KISS mode properly. Turned out in my case that I was trying to disable (deliberately!) the transmit function on the 9600 baud port whilst leaving the t'other going. In other words, I had turned XMITOK off on the 9600 baud port but had left the 1200 baud XMITOK on as I wanted it to. The thing didn't like that and refused to behave itself by going into KISS properly. Karl, the main man in the Kamtronics Service Department sent me some email which set me on the right track. I had, at his request, emailed him a copy of my JNOS's Autoexec.nos file and he sent me back a copy of his. Turns out that Karl is, like me, a keen JNOS fan. Everything works O.K. now. Try this URL:- http://www.kamtronics.com. Watch for the URL that points to their email address which I THINK (????) is service@kamtronics.com They reply very quickly. Let me know the reason for your particular problem. It might help me avoid further hassles.. Best of luck, Kindest regards, Bob. ***************************************************************** * ROBERT W. WALKER, J.P. B.A.(Syd.) * * Amateur Radio Operator:- VK7KOB, ZL3TJP * * My saltmine= Advertising Contractor & Publisher * * (when I'm not playing on Internet or Ham Radio) * * P.O. Box 514, * * Drummoyne, N.S.W. 2047, * * AUSTRALIA. * * Phone 018 287 199 (24 hrs) * * International:- Country Code =61 Area Code=18 287 199 * * INTERNET:- vk7kob@ozemail.com.au * * "Success is the progressive realisation of a worthy ideal" * * -: Professor William James. * * I have NO connection with any other company or organisations * * and the opinions expressed herein are merely my own personal * * views.......... * * ********************* END OF TEXT ******************************* From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:22:46 1996 From: pecampbe@mtu.edu (Paul E. Campbell) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: How to handle power in routing Date: 22 Mar 1996 14:13:55 -0500 Message-ID: <4iuu5j$d2n@snickers.mm> I'm playing around with algorithms before I go and actually implement anything so here's where I'm stuck... First, I'm looking at implementing a packet radio system crammed into a Part 1 5 unlicensed band. With care, I think I can get a couple miles out of it which is all I need. The link itself will be able to handle up to about 140Kbps whic h is a far cry from microwave megabit speeds, but not shabby otherwise. The modems will be using a single channel and I have considered using the MAC outlined by Phil Karns (listen, send packet request, receive go-ahead, then send packet at power specified by the intended receiver). As far as I can tell, this system is upgraded a bit from CSMA type packet networks (listen, then send away and hope you don't cause a collision) by usin g the send request/go-ahead messages as additional protection to the packet. The power control also helps. But going from the details of the link layer to the transport layer (I've also considered the various collision free slotted and unslotted protocols), how does one determine how to route? When one doesn't consider the possibility of power control and/or congestion, then routing is simple.. compute the shortest available path (passing through the fewest number of nodes). But what about congestion? And what about power control? Under low congestion for instance, then you would want to follow the first method which means boosting your power levels to send the packet as far as possible (while simultaneously colliding with intervening nodes). But under high congestion or with a local area of congestion, one wants to route around the congestion or decrease power while going through it to limit the amount of interference generated by your message. Are there any algorithms or analyses or anything in this area? Or am I looking for something that doesn't exist? From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:22:47 1996 From: stan@mutadv.com (Stan Huntting) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment Subject: KaWin News Date: 22 Mar 1996 04:10:46 GMT Message-ID: <4it986$c16@news-2.csn.net> KAWIN NEWS KaWin 6.36 Kantronics to distribute KaWin KaWin FTP Site closure KaWin News mailing list issues Version 6.36 of KaWin, available now from the KaWin Home Page, is just a maintenance release with a few, very minor, fixes. But, due to problems with my mailer, many people missed the announcement of version 6.35, with support for the Buckmaster Hamcall CDROM. Also, I am very pleased to announce that Kantronics will be packaging KaWin on diskette with every TNC and TNC-upgrade. This is the same shareware KaWin that is available from the KaWin Home Page and will increase the distribution of KaWin several fold. All files that were previously available from the KaWin FTP Site have been consolidated in the KaWin Home Page. If you do not have Web access and had previously relied on FTP access to these files, send me email to that effect and we'll arrange to get them to you. I have purged all addresses from the KaWin News mailing list that have had delivery problems. If you did NOT receive the email version of KaWin News announcing KaWin 6.36 and would like to be on the mailing list, please subscribe by email request. To add your email address to the KaWin News mailing list, send email to stan@mutadv.com with the word SUBSCRIBE in the subject line. If your email address is modified in any way by your host or gateway, please include the correct address in the body of the message. Thanks. 73, Igottago... Stan .. KaWin News is published by Stan Huntting, KF0IA. -- Stan Huntting, KF0IA Email: stan@mutadv.com Fax: 303 444 2314 KaWin home page: http://www.mutadv.com/kawin/ Postal address: 4655 Pleasant Ridge Rd., Boulder, CO 80301-1731, USA From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:22:48 1996 From: Paul Bastian Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Looking for Software Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 18:35:38 -0800 Message-ID: <315211FA.3932@sprynet.com> I am looking for Software for SSTV, WEFAX and RTTY, which uses a HAMCOM type modem. Any info would be greatly appreciated. E-Mail to pbastian@sprynet.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:22:49 1996 From: paulie@pryan.data.binghamton.edu (Paul Bobby) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Message networks over the net Date: 22 Mar 1996 08:22:42 -0500 Message-ID: In our isolated packet area, we now have machine connected to the internet. I'd rather not have to worry about the content of nntp messages.... are there any fidonet-style message nets that can be tunneled through the internet and up and out into my pbbs? I need something for our poor packeteers to read, and the net is our fastest transport of course. -- Paul Bobby - paulie@data.binghamton.edu Key fingerprint = E1 A4 41 6E 43 48 31 C6 33 EF 9E 48 1A 69 B6 4B KeyServer ID = 0xD9CEE7C1 From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:22:50 1996 From: MVDAMME@xs4all.nl (Maarten van Damme) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Packet modems with GPS Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 19:11:49 GMT Message-ID: <4is9g9$e9p@news.xs4all.nl> Hello, In this months CQ I noticed that many packet modem ad also contained the caption "Now does GPS"! As a SWL-er with an interest in RTTY and other digital modes I was wondering what this GPS does in the context of packet modems. Would it be possible to retrieve your exact location by using one of the modems, the correct receiver (Scanner radio?) and the correct antenna, and probably a piece of software? This would be great. Please could you let me know what they mean with "Does GPS" and waht else I would need to create my own little GPS receiver. Maarten van Damme mvdamme@xs4all.nl Maarten van Damme e-mail: mvdamme@globalxs.nl From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:22:51 1996 From: grc@arn.NET (Scott\, G.R. \, Cundiff) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: RE: TNC Which one? Please help` Date: 22 Mar 96 01:10:57 GMT Message-ID: <1.5.4b12.32.19960322011057.00665614@mailbox.arn.net> Dick, N1FIL penned... >Hi, > I have a KAM and like it very much. I enjoy working VHF and HF >simultaneously so the dual port is for me. I do NOT have a KAM+ because I >upgraded to the enhancement board which essentially does the same as the >+. I've checked KAWin and although it's a nice program, if I was to spend >the money on registering software, I'd go with KAGold. It offers >conferencing, CDRom interfacing (for callsign lookup ) and the easiest >multipathing (hop from node to node) that I've experienced on any >software. I must point out that I'm not using that software at this time >but did test a Beta copy. I'm currently using PaKet 6.1 which is shareware >and it is great. Right on Dick, at least from my perspective. I have really enjoyed my Kam after running many different TNC. I run a 2M/40M gateway here and it does a bang up job. I also enjoy Pactor/Gtor with the Kam. I also agree on KAGold. I have tried every terminal program I could lay my hands on. KAGold it by far my favorite. It is a pit pricy, and that held me off for a long time. I too ran PaKet 6.1 -- a truly outstanding bit of shareware. However, when my "ship came in" by way of a Christmas financial gift I knew just what I wanted to do with the cash, and moved over to KAGold. No slam on other TNC's or software, but I highly recommend the KAM with KAGold (or at least PaKet). 73 all... --Scott ============================================================= G.R. "Scott" Cundiff -- Borger, Texas Internet: grc@arn.net ham: N5ASD@N5ASD.#WTX.TX.USA.NOAM ============================================================= From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:22:52 1996 From: crest3@pitt.edu (Chris Evans) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Windows, TCP/IP and packet radio? Date: Fri, 22 Mar 96 16:41:04 GMT Message-ID: <4itia8$lfj@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> I am interested in getting into packet radio but I do not yet know the capabilities of packet radio. Would it be possible to put a machine on the internet via packet radio? Also, can I use 56k in all areas and get on the net or only in areas with a network gateway such as Grapes or the other state nets? From lwbyppp@epix.net Sun Mar 24 17:22:53 1996 From: salki@cc.duth.GR (Salkintzis K. Apostolis) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: WSRUSSE@WASTNET.NET ?? Date: 22 Mar 96 18:20:29 GMT Message-ID: <199603221621.IAA15894@UCSD.EDU> Sorry, for this mail. I'm trying to reach a guy wsrusse@wastnet.net that have posted a 'sale KPC9612' message on this list. As the above address is unavailable, I'd appreciate any contact help. 73 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Apostolis K. Salkintzis Internet: salki@ee.duth.gr P.O.Box 11, 67100 Xanthi, Greece AMPR: sv7dni@sv7dni.ampr.org Voice: +30 541 77452, 79599, 79957 Packet: sv7dni@sv7bvw.xan.grc.eu FAX: +30 541 27264 WWW: http://www.duth.gr/~salki -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:17:27 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: 10 GHz data link Message-ID: <1996Mar25.101547.1532@batman> From: byron_hellewell@out.trw.com Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 17:17:24 GMT Reply-To: byron_hellewell@out.trw.com I am looking for construction articles/ instructions on building a high speed data link using 10 Ghz gunnplexers. I understand there was a 73 article that describe such. Any help regarding the articles or web sites that address building a high speed link using 10 GHz gunnplexers would be appreciated. Thanks & 73's Byron From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:17:28 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: 13-509@9k6? Message-ID: <1996Mar22.222008.5305@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: <199603221617.IAA00504@UCSD.EDU> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1996 22:20:08 GMT In article <199603221617.IAA00504@UCSD.EDU> jtaylor@huachuca-emh8.army.mil (Ja ck Taylor) writes: >I've been attempting to set up two Midland 13-509 220 rigs for 9k6 >using TAPR modems. The transmit portion, adding a varator diode to the >crystal oscillator stage works well. However, the eye pattern out of >the discriminator (before the deemphasis ckt) looks TERRIBLE on both >radios. > >The TAPR modems have EPROMS which apparently can be coded for different >receiver audio responses. Unlike the G3RUH style modem, there are NO >jumper settings available with which to adjust EPROM response, nor do >the TAPR modems I have, contain ANY documentation on this topic. Let me clarify something here. Unless every receiver in the system has the *same* distorted response, neither the TAPR nor G3RUH compensation system can be used to compensate for receiver response. What these systems do is predistort the *transmit* waveform, and receivers with different responses will see that waveform differently, IE it might perfectly compensate one receiver while making a total hash of what a different receiver decodes. I'd suggest using this predistortion feature *solely* to compensate for *transmitter* distortions. If every transmitter in the system is compensated to a common output waveform, then any given receiver will see the same sort of signal regardless of which transmitter emits it. *Then* you can compensate these individual receivers to operate properly with that waveform by modification of the individual receiver's circuitry. That's the only way to get a consistent functional network. Sorry this doesn't directly address your question, but I figured it needed saying. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:17:30 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: 32bit packet prog. ? Message-ID: <315681FF.167EB0E7@paisley.ac.uk> From: "D.R. Christiansen (GM7RTH)" Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 11:22:39 +0000 References: <4is60b$c2i$1@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> Noel Gaddo wrote: > > I'm looking for a 32bit packet programme to use with Windows95 > > Are there any programs like this available? So yes.. where? > > Thanks in advance.. > > Noel Gaddo. Warping out of reality at 28.800 bps. Try looking for a program called WINPAC...it runns in Windows '95.. If you check out the ham section of my homepaghe then there are some good FTP links there where you can find it.. Sorry about being breif but i have a lecture in 5mins hehe! -- ------------------------ ---------------------- David Christiansen Computer Engineering (BEng Hons) ------------------------ ---------------------- http://diana40.paisley.ac.uk/~com10027/ mailto:com10027@paisley.ac.uk -- Mathematics and alcohol don't mix...Don't drink and derive -- From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:17:31 1996 From: iarenazo@disun19.epfl.ch (Ignacio Arenaza Nuno) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: 32bit packet prog. ? Date: 25 Mar 1996 13:03:09 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <4j65id$6kr@info.epfl.ch> References: <4is60b$c2i$1@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> <315681FF.167EB0E7@paisley.ac.uk> In article <315681FF.167EB0E7@paisley.ac.uk>, "D.R. Christiansen (GM7RTH)" writes: : Noel Gaddo wrote: : > : > I'm looking for a 32bit packet programme to use with Windows95 : > : > Are there any programs like this available? So yes.. where? : > : > Thanks in advance.. : : Try looking for a program called WINPAC...it runns in Windows '95.. : If you check out the ham section of my homepaghe then there are some : good FTP links there where you can find it.. : : Sorry about being breif but i have a lecture in 5mins hehe! There is also pr4win at: http://www.csesys.co.at/bstroj/pr4win.htm You have both 16bit and 32bits native versions. You will need a KISS capable TNC. I haven't tested it yet, but I plan to do it in a few days. Looks pretty good from descriptions found at the address above. 73. -- Ignacio ARENAZA Ignacio.Arenaza@studi.epfl.ch ----> [ Yes, an EA in HB9! ] EB2EBU@EA2RCF.EAVI.ESP.EU Finger iarenazo@didecs1.epfl.ch for PGP Public key. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:17:33 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: 33cm band and spread spectrum tech Message-ID: <1996Mar25.181858.23042@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Keywords: 33cm spread spectrum packet tcp Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 18:18:58 GMT In article tony.blake@stpaul.ncr.com ( Tony Blake) writes: >I have obtained some wireless LAN adapter cards. The have an effective >throughput of 2Mb/sec. The use spread spectrum on a center frequency of 915 >Mhz. The card has a power rating of 0.5 watts, which is under the legal >limit of 1 W for unlicensed devices of this kind. My original plan was to >recrystal the cards to an appropriate HAM band and use them there. However, >I've run into some interesting aspects and questions for which I don't know >where to find the answers. I'm hoping someone here may be able to help. > >1) Looking back on my study materials from when I was studying for my ticket , >it looks like USA Amateurs have priviledges in the 33cm band, from 902-928 >MHZ, all modes. My first question is, do we still have them? Yes. Government radiolocation is primary, private radiolocation is secondary, and we are tertiary. Part 15 devices are below us in the priority scheme. >2) It was my understanding that amateur digital communications must contain >the callsign of the sender. A local HAM here said the rule is much stricter >and that amateurs must use the AX.25 protocol ONLY, for digital >communications. Is it true we are limited to only using AX.25 for digital >communications? No. We can use unspecified codes here, see 97.309(b). We must ID in a recognizable manner at the normal intervals of course. We are limited to the use of AX.25 only if we intend to do unattended automatic forwarding. >3) Essentailly these cards operate from 904 MHZ - 926 MHZ. I have been told >that this is too wide of a channel. What is a "channel" and is this true? These cards operate *spread spectrum* which means that the signal energy is spread over a channel bandwidth of 22 MHz. This is *not* too wide a bandwidth for the 33cm band. The rules only require that the signal energy be contained within the band, and this qualifies. However, we have more severe limitations on spread spectrum operation than on ordinary digital signaling. See 97.311. The capsule summary is that we are only allowed to use certain spreading sequences, and the cards you have *don't* do those spreading sequences. So unless you can modify the cards to do one of the allowed spreading sequences, you can't use them under Part 97. (Note: there is currently a docket before the FCC to relax this requirement. The FCC may act on it at any time, watch www.fcc.gov for updates.) Also, SS emissions must be identified using Morse Code in such a manner as to be receivable on a narrowband receiver. This will also require modifications of the cards. >Those are my specific questions, however I'm essentially looking to find the >official rules for digital communications in the 33 MHZ band is, and whether >or not the FCC limits me to only using the AX.25 protocol. Every amateur should have an up to date copy of Part 97 in his station. All the rules are in there. As a quick fix, go to www.accessone.com/~vbook/hronline.htm and browse the reference section for an online copy of Part 97. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:17:34 1996 From: cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Christopher K Greenhalgh) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: 33cm band and spread spectrum tech Date: 25 Mar 1996 19:14:32 GMT Message-ID: <4j6rao$62q@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> References: <1996Mar25.181858.23042@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Keywords: 33cm spread spectrum packet tcp In article <1996Mar25.181858.23042@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, Gary Coffman wrote: >These cards operate *spread spectrum* which means that the signal energy >is spread over a channel bandwidth of 22 MHz. This is *not* too wide a >bandwidth for the 33cm band. The rules only require that the signal energy >be contained within the band, and this qualifies. Hi Gary. Perhaps you can clarify...does this mean I can transmit "spread spectrum" om 2 meters, and use all the band (ie; 144 t0 148)? Wouldnt this interfere with...well...everybody on 2 meters? Maybe Im missing something here... :( -- Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT Computer/Electronic Tech. II at The Ohio State University E-Mail: ckg+@osu.edu (cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) AX.25 : n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:17:36 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: 33cm band and spread spectrum tech Message-ID: <1996Mar26.174339.27722@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Keywords: 33cm spread spectrum packet tcp Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: <1996Mar25.181858.23042@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4j6rao$62q@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 17:43:39 GMT In article <4j6rao$62q@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> cgreenha@magnus.acs.oh io-state.edu (Christopher K Greenhalgh) writes: >In article <1996Mar25.181858.23042@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, >Gary Coffman wrote: > >>These cards operate *spread spectrum* which means that the signal energy >>is spread over a channel bandwidth of 22 MHz. This is *not* too wide a >>bandwidth for the 33cm band. The rules only require that the signal energy >>be contained within the band, and this qualifies. > >Hi Gary. > >Perhaps you can clarify...does this mean I can transmit "spread spectrum" >om 2 meters, and use all the band (ie; 144 t0 148)? Wouldnt this interfere >with...well...everybody on 2 meters? > >Maybe Im missing something here... :( You're missing a couple of things. A) SS is not allowed on 2m (under the current rules), and B) by spreading the signal energy over a wide bandwidth, the amount of energy at any given frequency at any given time is miniscule, so it doesn't interfere with narrow band users, and of course SS users have to have their sequences synchronized in order to hear each other, so by syncing to a different part of a sequence, or to a different sequence, they avoid interfering with each other too. As a band fills with many SS signals, the only thing noticable to a user of the band is a gradual rise in the apparent noise floor. Unlike with narrow modes, there is no clash of titans as signals overlap each other, no hetrodyning, splattering, buckshotting, and desensing of each other. The thing that makes this possible is called "correlation gain". A SS receiver is a perfect matched filter for a SS transmission. It effectively sums all the signal energy back into a coherent despread whole while *not* correlating noise (and other signals on the band not synced to the same sequence are for practical purposes noise). So while to a narrowband user a SS signal is inaudible, to a user with a synchronized SS receiver it is loud and clear. And besides the natural and automatic load spreading and band sharing inherent in SS, there is also another positive attribute of SS, and that is good immunity to multipath. Because it transmits on many frequencies, it forms a frequency diversity system resistant to multipath. Use of SS is fully compatible with FM, repeaters, ATV, SSB, and CW operations. The only operators adversely impacted by SS operations are narrowband weak signal operators. Because of the apparent rise in the noise floor, very weak signals can be adversely affected. To avoid that, certain band segments need to be set aside for this use, and SS systems should use sequences that avoid spreading into those weak signal segments. That's pretty easy to arrange. Of course, weak signal operators could *also* take advantage of SS technique and not be as adversely affected. The inherent diversity in the technique would be useful to deal with Rayleigh scattering and Faraday rotation encountered by EME operators, for example. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:17:37 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: 56k modem and UHF rig. Message-ID: <1996Mar25.183539.23150@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: <9603250800.AA03007@www.kb7eec.ampr.org> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 18:35:39 GMT In article <9603250800.AA03007@www.kb7eec.ampr.org> crum@www.kb7eec.ampr.ORG ( Gary Crum) writes: >In article <4imh3r$p6o@ns3.iamerica.net> brad@village.vonl.com (Brad >Killebrew) writes: >>I need to be pointed in the direction where I can find a 56k modem >>(already built or kit is fine) and a UHF radio that can handle this > >>type of xfer. > >More info: The transverters and power amplifier for the WA4DSY 56kbps modem >cost about $500 per interface (not including the cost of the modem), or at >least that is the cost of the "RF deck" kit described at: >http://www.ve7ubc.ampr.org/users/www/56k/56rfdeck.html > >So, since that $500 is too much, there is a big missing link here preventing >that WA4DSY modem from becoming popular. And, the G3RUH in the SPIRIT-2 >(ready for 38400bps) is similarly crying out for a radio on the market that >can accomodate wide (60KHz) signals. Interesting. > >Best Regards, >Gary You aren't limited to that RF deck kit. We've been using Microwave Modules MMT432S transverters since the modem was designed. They work fine, and can be found at hamfests for around $160 (I'm told that a limited supply of brand new ones have also been located in Britain). Also, Maple Leaf Communications has some Sinclabs 220 MHz transverters, which are essentially MMT clones, for around $250, and they also work fine. And Down East Microwave has a 70 cm transverter kit for $155, and it works fine too. We have even used the Hamtronics XV4 upconverter and 70 cm receive converter with the modems, but that isn't recomended unless the distance to be spanned isn't great, and the site isn't a high RF site. 10 watts is plenty of power for any line of sight path. Actually, 3 watts is usually fine. If the path is not line of sight, multipath may cause excessive symbol smearing and a higher BER, and this can be *aggrevated* by running higher power levels. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:17:38 1996 From: crum@www.kb7eec.ampr.ORG (Gary Crum) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: 56k modem and UHF rig. Date: 25 Mar 96 08:00:20 GMT Message-ID: <9603250800.AA03007@www.kb7eec.ampr.org> In article <4imh3r$p6o@ns3.iamerica.net> brad@village.vonl.com (Brad Killebrew) writes: >I need to be pointed in the direction where I can find a 56k modem >(already built or kit is fine) and a UHF radio that can handle this >type of xfer. More info: The transverters and power amplifier for the WA4DSY 56kbps modem cost about $500 per interface (not including the cost of the modem), or at least that is the cost of the "RF deck" kit described at: http://www.ve7ubc.ampr.org/users/www/56k/56rfdeck.html So, since that $500 is too much, there is a big missing link here preventing that WA4DSY modem from becoming popular. And, the G3RUH in the SPIRIT-2 (ready for 38400bps) is similarly crying out for a radio on the market that can accomodate wide (60KHz) signals. Interesting. Best Regards, Gary From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:17:39 1996 From: paulrich@atcon.com (Paul Richardson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: 56kbaud and PacComm Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 18:19:40 GMT Message-ID: <4jc0up$fa3@thor.atcon.com> Any info on when will the 56k modem will be available fromm PacComm and what price ? Thanks. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:17:40 1996 From: BlueSky@tiac.net Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: >>>>HELP - Small VHF Xmitter for Airborne Telemetry<<<< Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 12:30:58 -0800 Message-ID: <31585402.72C6@tiac.net> Can someone help me by pointing me to a schematic or an article of a small VHF transmitter? It is to be used to relay telemetry from a series of high altitude rockets. Followin g are the (desired) specs: Frequency: 2m band or nearby; XTAL controlled; RF Power: 50-250 mW output; Supply: 9-12 VDC (battery); Modulation: N/A Complexity (ie. size and weight) should be as low as possible, as should the c ost - lets face it - the typical life of these devices will be measured in minutes. I would preffer to build the xmitters myself as integral part of a telemetry package. I have hundreds of various scanner crystals that fit in this category. They ha ve fundamental frequencies around 16MHz, but I don t really know if I can use them for this p roject. I would very much appreciate any help in this matter. I can be also reached at mailto:BlueSky@TIAC.net My thanks to all those who reply! 73s Chris (WR1F) From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:17:41 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.scanners,rec.radio.homebrew,rec.radio.equipment,rec.radio.shortwave From: Helmut Strickner Subject: Re: audio spectrum analyzer software needed Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 07:30:49 GMT References: <3155D1DA.198E@iaccess.com.au> Paul you should have a look at HPWFFT1 - HpW Works demo software which is one of the best around that I have seen. The author offers two versions of the software, a light version capable of 2048 points FFT and the full version which does 1048576 points !! The demo version is limited to 512 points. Various sound cards are supported. You can get the demo off compuserve, I dont know exactly which forum, probably where the other shareware is to be found. Helmut VK4STR From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:17:42 1996 From: bhorne@lynx.dac.neu.edu (Bill Horne) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: AX.25 checksum in tcp/ip Date: 25 Mar 1996 15:50:51 GMT Message-ID: <4j6fcr$n4m@chaos.dac.neu.edu> Summary: Should I see the same checksum on tcp resends? Keywords: tcp AX.25 We've been analyzing the load on our tcp/ip backbone, using a product intended for AX.25 traffic. This package detects resends by comparing the AX.25 checksum with values previously received: with tcp/ip UA frames, however, we're not showing any resends. The question, then, is: should packets resent by the tcp layer have the same info in them, time after time? What would change from packet to packet that would cause the AX.25 layer to recalculate the checksum? Thanks for your help. 73, Bill AA1ES -- Bill Horne bhorne@lynx.neu.edu From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:17:44 1996 From: bat@gateway.grumman.com (Pat Masterson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Baycom & Laptops Date: 25 Mar 1996 15:37:06 -0500 Message-ID: <4j705i$22e@gateway.grumman.com> References: <4imq4v$lrm@kodak.rdcs.Kodak.COM> In article <4imq4v$lrm@kodak.rdcs.Kodak.COM>, Bill Rhodes wrote: >I am attempting to run Baycom software with an older NEC >Multispeed Laptop (AT, I believe). The software seems to have >a problem running the serial port. When one types a command, >e.g. [:c w2...] the rig transmmits one burst and the line >below the transmit window switches from "QRV" to send and >locks up in that mode. First opinions were that the modem was >getting insufficient voltage, however, further experimentation >with the modem disconnected entirely shows the same mode of >operation (if I run the same experiment on a 286 desk top that >I have the s/w operates normally). A recent opinion is that >the Baycom s/w needs type 65500 uarts to operate correctly and >that some laptops do not have them. Anyone out there have any >experience with this kind of problem? Thanks for any help and This problem is almost ALWAYS from RF getting into the computer when it starts transmitting. Most laptop users find it first, because they're using an HT which is about a foot away from the computer. So, use an outside antenna, as high up as you can get it. This will also help to avoid hidden-transmitter collisions. Then do some shiedlding and grounding. Use some ferrites on the cables between radio, baycom, and computer. Ground everything you can. I'm quite sure this will solve your problem. -pat -- * Pat Masterson B38-111, Northrop Grumman Corp.* Ham:KE2LJ * 1111 Stewart Ave., Bethpage NY 11714 * Packet: KE2LJ@KC2FD.NY * 516-346-6316 * President Grumman Amateur * email: bat@grumman.com * Radio Club WA2LQO From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:17:45 1996 From: bat@gateway.grumman.com (Pat Masterson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Baycom & Laptops Date: 28 Mar 1996 15:09:45 -0500 Message-ID: <4jerm9$b8e@gateway.grumman.com> References: <4imq4v$lrm@kodak.rdcs.Kodak.COM> <3151A2C8.32@lanl.gov> In article <3151A2C8.32@lanl.gov>, Jim Devenport wrote: >Are you running Baycom Version 1.5 on your laptop? I too had that >lockup problem both with my AT laptop as well as occasionally other >desktop systems. In my case and in most others that I've heard about, >switching to Version 1.4 completely cures the lockup problems. Email me >for details on getting 1.4 if you don't have it already. IMHO version >1.4 is much more robust than 1.5. I had the opposite problem. 1.4 was locking up, and I upgraded to 1.5 and the problem went away. Now I'm at 1.6. But, I really think its RF geting into the computer that mostly causes lockups. Seems logical, as its always SEND mode when it hangs. So, try some grounding and shielding first. And get the antenna far up and away from the computer. -- * Pat Masterson B38-111, Northrop Grumman Corp.* Ham:KE2LJ * 1111 Stewart Ave., Bethpage NY 11714 * Packet: KE2LJ@KC2FD.NY * 516-346-6316 * President Grumman Amateur * email: bat@grumman.com * Radio Club WA2LQO From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:17:46 1996 From: paulie@pryan.data.binghamton.edu (Paul Bobby) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: BAYCOM & Linux Date: 25 Mar 1996 21:53:44 -0500 Message-ID: Is it possible to use a baycom modem under Linux? -- Paul Bobby - paulie@data.binghamton.edu Key fingerprint = E1 A4 41 6E 43 48 31 C6 33 EF 9E 48 1A 69 B6 4B KeyServer ID = 0xD9CEE7C1 From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:17:46 1996 From: paulie@pryan.data.binghamton.edu (Paul Bobby) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: BAYCOM & Linux Date: 25 Mar 1996 22:04:29 -0500 Message-ID: Can a baycom modem be used under linux? -- Paul Bobby - paulie@data.binghamton.edu Key fingerprint = E1 A4 41 6E 43 48 31 C6 33 EF 9E 48 1A 69 B6 4B KeyServer ID = 0xD9CEE7C1 From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:17:48 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: CATV hardline Message-ID: <1996Mar25.184636.23335@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: <3156849F.454@dibbs.net> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 18:46:36 GMT In article <3156849F.454@dibbs.net> genek@dibbs.net writes: > >I would like to hear of any experiences using cable TV coax for 70 cm >ham radio. I have a quantity of what appears to be 7/8 inch coax that >I assume to be about 75 ohm. The center conductor is about 3/16 inch >diameter. I ran about 125 feet between 50 ohm antenna and UHF radio >with 40 watts power. I adapted some PL-258 splice connectors to each >end of the coax and connected without any matching devices. >Unfortunately I have an unacceptable VSWR. I have ordered some matching >transformers that I hope will correct the problem but was wondering if >anybody has had good luck with this coax. >Like I said, I have 40 watts in, about 3:1 VSWR, and 7 watts into the >antenna at the end of the 125 foot run. Sounds like you have a bad piece of cable, Gene. Or you did something horribly wrong when installing the connectors. You should be seeing a VSWR of about 1.5:1 and a power out of around 38 watts. You also know that you can cut the 75 ohm cable to a multiple of a halfwave and get a perfect repetition of the antenna impedance at the radio, don't you? You'll still have a 1.5:1 VSWR on the cable, but your radio won't know it. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:17:50 1996 From: ka1jy@usa.nai.net (Brian Ellsworth) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: CATV hardline Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 12:03:55 GMT Message-ID: <3157dd1a.1020546@a3bsrv.nai.net> References: <3156849F.454@dibbs.net> Reply-To: ka1jy@usa.nai.net On Mon, 25 Mar 1996 06:33:51 -0500, in rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc you wrote: >I would like to hear of any experiences using cable TV coax for 70 cm >ham radio. Hay, it's cheap and it works... What else can you say. >Unfortunately I have an unacceptable VSWR. I have ordered some matching >transformers that I hope will correct the problem but was wondering if >anybody has had good luck with this coax. Some thing was wrong. Check the SWR formula a mismatch from 75 to 50 should not have caused this reading. I use 100 feet of TV coax for my two meter repeater. No matching at all! Even with the small swr caused by the hardline to antenna miss-match the loss is STILL lower than if i ran coax.... -be From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:17:51 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: CATV hardline Message-ID: <1996Mar26.182030.27943@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: <3156849F.454@dibbs.net> <3157dd1a.1020546@a3bsrv.nai.net> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 18:20:30 GMT In article <3157dd1a.1020546@a3bsrv.nai.net> ka1jy@usa.nai.net writes: >On Mon, 25 Mar 1996 06:33:51 -0500, in rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc >you wrote: > >>I would like to hear of any experiences using cable TV coax for 70 cm >>ham radio. > >Hay, it's cheap and it works... What else can you say. > >>Unfortunately I have an unacceptable VSWR. I have ordered some matching >>transformers that I hope will correct the problem but was wondering if >>anybody has had good luck with this coax. > >Some thing was wrong. Check the SWR formula a mismatch from 75 to 50 >should not have caused this reading. I use 100 feet of TV coax for my >two meter repeater. No matching at all! Even with the small swr caused >by the hardline to antenna miss-match the loss is STILL lower than if >i ran coax.... Note, however, that unless you are fortunate in the length that you choose (mulitple of a halfwave), or you are using a circulator at your duplexer output (normally the circulator would be between the duplexer and the transmitter instead), the reactance presented by the mismatched line to the output cavities will detune them. This is really no big whoop, but it does mean that you'll have to do final cavity tuning in situ in order to absorb that reactance into the cavity's final tune. Otherwise you may find that the repeater sensitivity is much poorer than it should be. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:17:52 1996 From: genek@dibbs.net Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: CATV hardline Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 20:04:19 -0500 Message-ID: <3159E593.6CB8@dibbs.net> References: <3156849F.454@dibbs.net> <1996Mar25.184636.23335@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Gary Coffman wrote: > > In article <3156849F.454@dibbs.net> genek@dibbs.net writes: > > > >I would like to hear of any experiences using cable TV coax for 70 cm > >ham radio. I have a quantity of what appears to be 7/8 inch coax > ----- > Sounds like you have a bad piece of cable, Gene. Or you did something > horribly wrong when installing the connectors. You should be seeing > a VSWR of about 1.5:1 and a power out of around 38 watts. Yes thats what I thought going into this and was very surprised at the results. The coax is not visibly damaged and resistance checks are fine. I might have messed up the transition to the PL-258's, will re-do them again. > > You also know that you can cut the 75 ohm cable to a multiple of > a halfwave and get a perfect repetition of the antenna impedance > at the radio, don't you? You'll still have a 1.5:1 VSWR on the > cable, but your radio won't know it. I will try cutting short pieces from the lower end and see if the VSWR dips. Thanks for your (and Brians) advise. -- Gene Kennedy, Mobile AL genek@maf.mobile.al.us genek@dibbs.net wa4wbi@maf.wa4wbi.ampr.org From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:17:54 1996 From: paidukas@harris.com (KT4DI) Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Cheated by MARTIN DURHAM WT1S Date: 28 Mar 1996 19:13:52 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <4jeodg$kko@hearye.mlb.semi.harris.com> References: <96032417561431436@giffy.com> Reply-To: paidukas@harris.com Barry, This is a sad story indeed. Is there anyone in out here that can contact this rip-off artist and help Barry get his TNC or money back? As you can see Barry is disabled. Here is Martin Durhams address and such: WT1S Martin I. Durham 404 Spruce Cir. Jordan, MN. 55352 DOB: 14-APR-1964 I hope someone local to this address can help Barry. --... ...-- -.. . Paul KT4DI >-> From: ab409@ccn.cs.dal.ca (Barry Hallett) >-> Subject: cheated out of tnc >-> >-> The name is Barry in Dartmouth Nova Scotia, I sent a money order to >-> MARTIN DURHAM WT1S for $100.00 US funds for a PK 88 tnc. He said he sent >-> it and it is now 5 months later and no tnc. I am on a disability >-> and cant afford this kind of action. If anybody has a very inexpensive >-> tnc I am still looking for one. I hope this ham that Screwed me out of >-> money can realy sleep at nite knowing he has done this. >-> Martin I hope you read this and are happy. >-> 73 barry >-> -- >-> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >-> --------- Barry Hallett >-> VE1MUS >-> ab409@ccn.cs.dal.ca >-> Lawrencetown, Nova Scotia, Canada >-> (902)435-2364 >-> _____________________________________________________________________ From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:17:55 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: bgrattan@leo.vsla.edu (Bob Grattan) Subject: Data Engine + Tekk KS-1000 Message-ID: <1996Mar29.130006.13075@leo.vsla.edu> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 13:00:06 GMT I'm having problems getting a Tekk KS-1000 (5 watt version) working with a Data Engine (9600 kb). Units are working ok but my jnos (110m) parameters must be off. I can ping stations ok but telnet and smtp hang after they make a connect. Could someone mail me a simple autoexec.nos that would work and on which I could add options? E-mail: bgrattan@mwc.edu or n4mrv@amsat.org. Many thanks and 73, Bob - N4MRV Ashland, VA -- _____________________________________________________________ Bob Grattan, Systems Librarian tel: (540) 654-1756 Mary Washington College fax: (540) 654-1067 Fredericksburg, VA 22401-4664 bgrattan@mwc.edu From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:17:56 1996 From: Dave_Covert@msn.com (David Covert) Subject: Easy WEFAX Date: 25 Mar 96 21:04:05 -0800 Message-ID: <00001fec+00001496@msn.com> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc I seem to remember a thread on WEFAX that could be received with a shortwave radio (not a full rig), a sound card, and some software. Can anyone recommend a good 'listener's radio' that I could dedicate to WEFAX? How about sound card WEFAX software for Windows? Dave Covert, KB5GOG http://www.outreach.com/webridge/davec From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:17:56 1996 From: willi_r@mail.uwlax.edu (willi_r) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: ForSale HAL P38 Date: 23 Mar 1996 21:45:29 GMT Message-ID: <4j1rdp$i49@alfred.acs.uwlax.edu> References: <4iiqrl$af1@mandolin.qnet.com> In article <4iiqrl$af1@mandolin.qnet.com>, Will says: > >I have for sale a HAL P38 Board, comes with RagChew and Express 3.5 software. > >$300.00 How come you want to sell the P38? I have one and although it is not practical to operate in Pactor mode as yet due to apparently serious problems that HAL has not been able to help solve yet, it sure is nice for Clover and especially great for rtty, far outperforming any modem I have ever used on rtty. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:17:57 1996 From: Micky Corrow Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: FS: PC PakRatt 2 for Windows Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 22:35:14 -0500 Message-ID: <31561471.25@sover.net> I have for sale to the highest bidder: AEA PC PakRatt 2 software, original disks, including PK FAX and the original box and manual. I would like to get $50.00 for it, originally it was $120.00. I also wanna sell my PK-232MBX...This software works well with Windows 3.1x and Win'95. Controls ALL AEA TNC models. Original pkg. from AEA. Email ONLY to opus@sover.net Thanks, Micky From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:17:58 1996 From: myers@West.Sun.COM (Dana Myers) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: GE Master II query Date: 26 Mar 1996 17:54:11 GMT Message-ID: <4j9b03$cpv@abyss.West.Sun.COM> References: <4j9564$ftg@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> In article <4j9564$ftg@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, Christopher K Greenhalgh wrote: >Hello all. > >I just got my hands on a GE Master II UHF rig with remote console, mic, >external speaker, and interface cable...basiclly complete. > >I am wanting to put it on 9600 bbs packet. Since this is a rock bound >rig (has 8 "channels"), will it work well? Maybe. I've never worked on the UHF radios, but the VHF radios are phase modulated, which is inherent unsuitable for 9600 baud operation. If the UHF radio is also PM, then you'll have to modify it. >Someone also told me this is a 90 watt unit...does anybody have ANY >information on this radio...watts, amp draw, pin out on console, schematic, >crystal source...anything at all, including what it is worth, would be >most appreciated. You can probably find a service manual at a hamfest, or call G.E. - the number was recently posted by Tony Cardenas - 800-528-7711. Good luck! Dana -- * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are mine and should * * (310) 348-6043 | not be interpreted or represented as * * Dana.Myers@West.Sun.Com | those of Sun Microsystems, Inc. * From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:17:59 1996 From: djmullen@facstaff.wisc.edu (Dave Mullenix) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Got Packet checksum code - thanks! Date: 27 Mar 1996 01:45:24 GMT Message-ID: <4ja6jk$210i@news.doit.wisc.edu> Thanks to MANY people, I now have source code for calculating packet checksums. Thanks everybody! Dave, N9LTD From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:18:00 1996 From: Mark Schoonover Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Got Packet checksum code - thanks! Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 16:29:57 -0800 Message-ID: <3159DD85.5B5F@cts.com> References: <4ja6jk$210i@news.doit.wisc.edu> Hello! I am also interested. Is there a place I can ftp this gem of info from?? TIA Mark -- KA6WKE From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:18:01 1996 From: Rhett Spencer Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Ham Radio Email Address Dual Address Email Boxes Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 22:41:18 -0700 Message-ID: <3154E07E.6FFF@PoBox1.com> FYI.. Dual Address Email Boxes! Simple General Public Address of First.Last@PoBox1.com Second Address of Callsign@PoBox1.com Either address delivers mail to the same Box. Can Be used to forward your mail to your regular Email Address. Take A look At http://www.wwwholesale.com/pobox1/73.htm 73's N7DGL From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:18:02 1996 From: dnelsch@winc.COM (Don Nelsch) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Ham-Digital Digest V96 #108 Date: 26 Mar 96 03:55:16 GMT Message-ID: References: <199603191230.EAA20244@mail.ucsd.edu> unsubscribe From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:18:03 1996 From: michaelm@doruk.COM.TR (Michael C. McHugh (TA2ZG/W2AV)) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Help on packet checksums Date: 23 Mar 96 17:53:43 GMT Message-ID: <9603230955.aa03700@bbs.doruk.com.tr> On 21 Mar 1996 djmullen@facstaff.wisc.edu (Dave Mullenix) wrote: > Does anybody know how to calculate the checksum for a standard > packet? The AX.25 FAQ sheet says it's calculated as described in > a certain ISO standard, but I have no access to those standards. > > Can anybody describe how the checksum is calculated or post a bit > of source code in just about any language that does the calculation? Hi, Dave - The AX.25 Frame Check Sequence is a 16 bit CRC. It is usually implemented using a lookup table. Get AX25DRV.LZH, the xNOS packet driver for BayCom-type modems by Pawel Jalocha. The 8086 assembler source code is included and contains a good example of using a lookup table to calculate a 16 bit CRC. I'm told it can be found at ftp://ftp.ucsd.edu/hamradio/packet/tcpip/baycom/. They may have it as a .ZIP file, not sure. I also have a public domain QuickBASIC example by Lyle Jensen called CRCTEST.BAS. It's about 5 kB; I can send it to you as email if you want. Drop me a line. Have fun - 73 From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:18:04 1996 From: vk5ham@seol.NET.AU (Phil Pittard) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Help: AMSTRAD PC2286/40 Date: 29 Mar 96 17:41:02 GMT Message-ID: <19960329094102.017ce274.in@Mail.seol.net.au> Hi - this probably is not the best place to put this plea for help but it'll have to do. I just bought (for $20) an AMSTRAD PC2286/40 Computer to dedicate to JNOS activity - problem is its been sitting in someones garage for years & batteries were very flat & the thing has "lost its memory" & consequently I cant access the 40 mb hard drive - on bootup it just tells me to run SETUP to set user options. I have searched local sources & the entire Internet & I cannot find anyone who has the setup exe or the disks etc. Does anyone in this group have such disk(s) & if so could you e-mail me whatever I need to tell the damn thing its got a hard drive! Thanks PHIL VK5HAM Phil Pittard (Australian Amateur Radio Station VK5HAM) AMATEUR RADIO AX-25 ADDRESS: VK5HAM @VK5SR.#WEV.VIC.AUS.OC < VOICE + PACKET - SATELLITE TV/RADIO - SCPC - ALL BAND MONITORING > E-MAIL ADDRESS: vk5ham@seol.net.au Mary-Ann Pittard E-MAIL ADDRESS: mary-ann@seol.net.au SNAIL MAIL:PHIL & MARY-ANN PITTARD BOX 8119,MT GAMBIER EAST,S.A, 5291 From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:18:05 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: How to handle power in routing Message-ID: <1996Mar23.161658.10087@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: <4iuu5j$d2n@snickers.mm> Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 16:16:58 GMT In article <4iuu5j$d2n@snickers.mm> pecampbe@mtu.edu (Paul E. Campbell) writes : > >But going from the details of the link layer to the transport layer (I've als o >considered the various collision free slotted and unslotted protocols), how >does one determine how to route? > >When one doesn't consider the possibility of power control and/or >congestion, then routing is simple.. compute the shortest available path >(passing through the fewest number of nodes). > >But what about congestion? And what about power control? Under low congestion >for instance, then you would want to follow the first method which means >boosting your power levels to send the packet as far as possible (while >simultaneously colliding with intervening nodes). But under high congestion >or with a local area of congestion, one wants to route around the congestion >or decrease power while going through it to limit the amount of interference >generated by your message. > >Are there any algorithms or analyses or anything in this area? Or am I >looking for something that doesn't exist? You assign each possible route a metric determined by recent history of round trip times for other packets. The one with the shortest round trip time becomes the preferred route. To seed this process, you assign routes randomly to the first n packets, with n being the number of possible routes, and use their history as the metric. When your selected best route's performance drops some selected percentage, you do another n packet set of trials and reselect for best route. This should be done on a router by router basis, not on a connection by connection basis for best results. That lets you take advantage of other traffic on the system to provide route metrics. If you like, you can add some statistical multiplexing into the process by randomly assigning an occasional packet to a not recently used route. This spreads the loading and gives you updated route metrics. If additionally you allow the routers to pass their metrics to each other, more deterministic routing decisions can be made. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:18:06 1996 From: Phil Karn Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: How to handle power in routing Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 19:51:21 -0800 Message-ID: <315769B9.41C67EA6@qualcomm.com> References: <4iuu5j$d2n@snickers.mm> To: "Paul E. Campbell" , karn@unix.ka9q.ampr.org Paul, I did some thinking about this problem about 5 years ago, but I haven't actually implemented anything. Check the ARRL Computer Networking Conference proceedings in that time frame. I think it was the 1991 conference at which I presented my ideas for minimum interference routing. This is very similar to, but not quite the same as, minimum energy routing. The idea in minimum energy routing is that once you implement automatic power control in each node, you can construct a routing table in which the link metrics to each neighbor are a direct function of the power required to reach it. If you then let the routing algorithm minimize the cumulative metric, you effectively find the path that minimizes the total energy, summed over all the nodes, required to reach that particular destination. This idea was proposed some time earlier in the DARPA MSS (multiple satellite system) project. I modified it somewhat for terrestrial use by recognizing that the nodes are generally not evenly distributed, and the topology isn't very uniform either. So I suggested picking a routing metric for each neighbor that was a function of how many other neighboring receivers you'd be forced to capture to reach that particular node. Again, the idea is to minimize the total interference caused in getting a packet from point A to point B. With these algorithms, the networks will automatically prefer a path consisting of many closely spaced nodes over one involving long hops that require lots of power. This helps maximize geographic reuse of the spectrum. Phil From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:18:08 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: How to handle power in routing Message-ID: <1996Mar26.181425.27856@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: <4iuu5j$d2n@snickers.mm> <315769B9.41C67EA6@qualcomm.com> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 1996 18:14:25 GMT In article <315769B9.41C67EA6@qualcomm.com> Phil Karn writ es: >Again, the idea is to minimize the total interference caused in >getting a packet from point A to point B. With these algorithms, >the networks will automatically prefer a path consisting of many >closely spaced nodes over one involving long hops that require lots >of power. This helps maximize geographic reuse of the spectrum. Two things to note, however. Interactive latency increases geometrically as the number of relay hops increase on any given path. And it only takes a very few "exposed" terminals to crash the entire area wide system, IE from some sites you just can't throttle power back enough to simultaneously connect with *somebody* without also being heard by nearly *everybody* else. Unlike commercial systems where site location can be closely controlled, amateur networks have to deal with where the amateurs are, not where they ought to be for best network performance. Given the relatively small number of operators and their rather arbitrary and uneven geographic distribution, other topologies and metrics are likely to perform better. Either use of duplex digital repeaters on high sites, or use of non- contending spoke and hub microwave directional systems, are one or both likely to be better than this quasi-cellular approach given amateur numeric, geographic, technical, and financial realities and considering average latency and the ability of a few exposed terminals to seriously degrade the quasi-cellular system. Note that if the system were true cellular, with relay done on trunks operating on a different channel(s), then the system would be much better. But that requires a degree of political cooperation and financial investment beyond most area's amateurs. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:18:09 1996 From: byoung@qni.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: KAM Upgrades Date: 29 Mar 1996 23:04:32 GMT Message-ID: <4jhqa0$c3u@suba01.suba.com> References: Luru, The Kantronics web page lists current ROM versions and gives information on upgrading older units. The URL is http://www.kantronics.com Bill Young byoung@qni.com KB0UZQ From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:18:09 1996 From: Marinus Willemstijn Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: KAMPLUS & WEFAX Date: 27 Mar 1996 11:39:24 GMT Message-ID: <4jb9dc$s4@newnews.iafrica.com> What software can I use to use the wefax facility on my kamplus and can i decode a wefax signal relayed onto 2m fm? Marinus ZS6MAW willemma@telkom19.telkom.co.za From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:18:11 1996 From: cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Christopher K. Greenhalgh) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Kantronics Help! Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 22:06:02 GMT Message-ID: Hello all. I have a friends Kantronics Paket Communicator. No version number...so I assum e its their first one. The man. date is 1985, its in a white case, has no mail box, and only has 3 front lamps (xmit, rcv, and power). The problem is this; the unit works fine, but only for about 10 or 15 minutes. After that, the recieve audio begins to chop, which is supplied via stand alone cable, 1/8 mono plug in...to 1/8 mono plug out. Now the tricky part...if we remove the data/ptt cable, it "hears" fine. We have quadruple checked this cable, including an amp load test, and its integrity is fine. BTW, its interfaced with a Kenwood 241a, and we have tried 3 different 241s. Any ideas, suggestions, help? Thanks much, & take care. Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT Computer/Electronic Tech. II at The Ohio State University E-Mail: ckg+@osu.edu (cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) AX.25 : n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:18:12 1996 From: rtm@netgate.net (Bob Martin N6MZV) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: LAWYERS/LEGAL NET(S) 20 M Date: Thu, 21 Mar 1996 20:41:49 -0800 Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <9603211024142919@chowda.com> In article <9603211024142919@chowda.com>, ed.scallon@chowda.com (Ed Scallon) wrote: > Ham Radio Operators: > > I am looking for a Legal / Lawyer(s) net 20 meters or any open bands > in this area. > > Please respond via mail or fax to (401) 781-4638 > > Tnx > 73's > > -Ed Scallon > N1KHL Geez- I'm a patent attorney, but 20 meters is really dead by the time I get home- maybe in a few years when the sunspots are in our favour again! 73- -- Bob Martin N6MZV * rtm@netgate.net From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:18:13 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: LINUX: tnos not finding domain.txt Message-ID: <31568292.2781E494@paisley.ac.uk> From: "D.R. Christiansen (GM7RTH)" Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 11:25:06 +0000 HI there.. I have yet to get TNOS V2.02 to recognise the hosts in my domain.txt..no matter where i put the file. I have tried everything i can think of but it still throws up the text unknown host or as of late crashes that session.. HELP!!! Where should i put it ? What format should it be ?? Byee for now and and I hope someone can help David gm7rth@gb7eiy.#78.gbr.eu 44.131.14.110/115/117/125/145 -- ------------------------ ---------------------- David Christiansen Computer Engineering (BEng Hons) ------------------------ ---------------------- http://diana40.paisley.ac.uk/~com10027/ mailto:com10027@paisley.ac.uk -- Mathematics and alcohol don't mix...Don't drink and derive -- From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:18:14 1996 From: iarenazo@disun19.epfl.ch (Ignacio Arenaza Nuno) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: LINUX: tnos not finding domain.txt Date: 25 Mar 1996 13:12:13 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <4j663d$6kr@info.epfl.ch> References: <31568292.2781E494@paisley.ac.uk> In article <31568292.2781E494@paisley.ac.uk>, "D.R. Christiansen (GM7RTH)" writes: : HI there.. : I have yet to get TNOS V2.02 to recognise the hosts in my : domain.txt..no matter where i put the file. : I have tried everything i can think of but it still throws up the text : unknown host or as of late crashes that session.. : : HELP!!! : Where should i put it ? : What format should it be ?? : : Byee for now and and I hope someone can help : : David : gm7rth@gb7eiy.#78.gbr.eu : 44.131.14.110/115/117/125/145 Hi David, As the file "new2tn2.02" says, the directory structure has substantially changed in version 2.02 of TNOS. The "domain.txt" file is now located under the "spool" directory. I suggest you getting the file and reading it carefully. You can get it at: ftp://ftp.ucsd.edu/hamradio/packet/tcpip/incoming/new2tn2.02 or one of its mirrors. Hope this helps. 73. -- Ignacio ARENAZA Ignacio.Arenaza@studi.epfl.ch ----> [ Yes, an EA in HB9! ] EB2EBU@EA2RCF.EAVI.ESP.EU Finger iarenazo@didecs1.epfl.ch for PGP Public key. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:18:15 1996 From: jack@cybermail.net Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: LINUX: tnos not finding domain.txt Date: 26 Mar 1996 18:19:08 GMT Message-ID: <4j9ces$sv9@news2.nkn.net> References: <31568292.2781E494@paisley.ac.uk> Reply-To: jack@cybermail.net In <31568292.2781E494@paisley.ac.uk>, "D.R. Christiansen (GM7RTH)" writes: >HI there.. > I have yet to get TNOS V2.02 to recognise the hosts in my >domain.txt..no matter where i put the file. >I have tried everything i can think of but it still throws up the text >unknown host or as of late crashes that session.. > >HELP!!! >Where should i put it ? >What format should it be ?? > >Byee for now and and I hope someone can help > >David >gm7rth@gb7eiy.#78.gbr.eu >44.131.14.110/115/117/125/145 Did you read features.new that cames with 2.02? A WHOLE BUNCH of files were moved from the root and spool directory to the \nos\etc directory. One of these was the domain.txt file. 73's de Jack - kf5mg Internet / hobby - kf5mg@kf5mg.ampr.org - home (817) 488-4386 work - jack@cybermail.net - work (214) 516-6270 or - jack@cyberloans.com +=========================================================================+ + I am Homer of Borg.... prepare to be assim... oooo... Donuts... + +=========================================================================+ From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:18:16 1996 From: gareth@lightfox.demon.co.uk (Gareth Rowlands) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: LINUX: tnos not finding domain.txt Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 13:54:14 GMT Distribution: world Message-ID: <19960325.135414.60@lightfox.demon.co.uk> References: <31568292.2781E494@paisley.ac.uk> Reply-To: gareth@lightfox.demon.co.uk In article <31568292.2781E494@paisley.ac.uk>, com10027@paisley.ac.uk ("D.R. Christiansen (GM7RTH)") wrote: > HI there.. > I have yet to get TNOS V2.02 to recognise the hosts in my > domain.txt..no matter where i put the file. Bung it in the spool directory of your TNOS root, e.g. /tnos/spool Entries should be of the form: gm9xxx.ampr.org. IN A 44.131.14.254 But don't worry if Tabs / extra white space appears. The important bit is callsign.ampr.org. Note the ampr.org. and the trailing full stop Here are the entries in my autoexec. # domain addserver 44.131.178.10 20 domain cache clean off domain cache size 20 domain cache wait 300 domain dns on domain localtrans on domain maxwait 20 domain retries 3 domain subnet off domain suffix ampr.org. domain trace off domain translate on domain ttl 864000 domain update on domain verbose off # 73, Gareth. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:18:17 1996 From: Fred Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: LINUX: tnos not finding domain.txt Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 06:45:23 -0500 Message-ID: References: <31568292.2781E494@paisley.ac.uk> On Mon, 25 Mar 1996, D.R. Christiansen (GM7RTH) wrote: > HI there.. > I have yet to get TNOS V2.02 to recognise the hosts in my > domain.txt..no matter where i put the file. > I have tried everything i can think of but it still throws up the text > unknown host or as of late crashes that session.. > > HELP!!! > Where should i put it ? It should be in the /etc directory > What format should it be ?? I use the same format that worked with jnos and have no trouble snip snip snip with 2.02 many things were moved to the etc directory. Fred Fred Peerenboom internet: peerenbf@dmapub.dma.org Amateur Radio: ke8tq@n8acv.#day.oh.usa.noam From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:18:18 1996 From: gjohnson@indirect.com (Gary L. Johnson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Looking For Software Date: 25 Mar 1996 23:09:36 GMT Message-ID: <4j793g$dcs@globe.indirect.com> References: <4ik66j$p3b@eri1.erinet.com> In article <4ik66j$p3b@eri1.erinet.com>, timcook@erinet.com (Tim Cook) says: > >I am looking for a good package to use with my pk-232. I had used >XPCOM in the past, but don't know if KF7XP still produces the program >or not. I know there are others out there. Any suggestions? Is XPCOM >still being produced? How about AEA Packratt for Windows? I'll buy >commercial software, or use freeware, just want something that works >well and is relatively bug free... >Please email with any info.. >Thanks >Tim >NZ8J > Yes, I am still writing and supporting ther software. It is available at the WEB and FTP site shown in the signature of this message. 73 Garu ****************************************************************************** ***** Gary L. Johnson * XPCOM / XPDUAL / XPKAM / XPPTC gjohnson@indirect.com * BBS (602) 898-1058 CIS: 74041,2317 * Voice (602) 833-6997 FTP: ftp.indirect.com pub/www/gjohnson * http://www.indirect.com/user/gjoh nson/ ****************************************************************************** ***** From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:18:20 1996 From: kc0rl@rmii.com (Eugene L. Olson) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Looking For Software Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 23:53:47 GMT Message-ID: <4jf8r6$d25@natasha.rmii.com> References: <4ik66j$p3b@eri1.erinet.com> <4j793g$dcs@globe.indirect.com> Reply-To: kc0rl@rmii.com gjohnson@indirect.com (Gary L. Johnson) wrote: :In article <4ik66j$p3b@eri1.erinet.com>, timcook@erinet.com (Tim Cook) says: :> :>I am looking for a good package to use with my pk-232. I had used :>XPCOM in the past, but don't know if KF7XP still produces the program :>or not. I know there are others out there. Any suggestions? Is XPCOM :>still being produced? How about AEA Packratt for Windows? I'll buy :>commercial software, or use freeware, just want something that works :>well and is relatively bug free... :>Please email with any info.. :>Thanks :>Tim :>NZ8J :> There is a program called "paKet 6" that really works well with the PK-232 and it has a lot of nice features. It does not have all mode support built into it but if you know the keyboard commands for each mode you can run any mode with it. Overall it is a heck of a nice program. I have also been using the PC-Pakratt II for Windows program. It supports all modes of operation and works with any TNC that AEA has on the market. It works great with Windows 3.1. There does seem to be a little glitch when used with Windows 95. When you select and save a font, it does not always come up with that font when you run the program. I am not overly concerned by that though. Another program I have been playing with is called WinPack 5.4. It is freeware and is one heck of a nice packet program for 2 meter operation. It supports multimedia sounds, gets your mail and bulletins off the local BBS automatically and does Yapp file transfers for a starter. NOT TOO SHABBY! Hope this helps a little ... Bye ================================================== Eugene L. Olson, "Ole" - Amateur Radio Call: KC0RL EMAIL: kc0rl@rmii.com - Packet Radio: KC0RL@W0LKD ================================================== From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:18:21 1996 From: dcole@weaver.guilford.k12.nc.us (Derrick Cole) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Low power output with PK-232 and TS-440 Date: 23 Mar 1996 04:11:12 GMT Message-ID: <4ivtl0$iir@inxs.ncren.net> Greetings! I've got a "late-model" PK-232MBX connected from Radio 1 to ACC 2 on a TS-440/AT with an AEA cable. I'm currently experiencing two... phenomena: 1. With R151 (resistor associated with the Radio 1 Jack on the '232) clipped, the best I can do is 25-30 W. Clipping the resistor is recommended by AEA specifically for '440 radios connected in the above fashion. 2. Apparently, when the '232 keys the '440 through the ACC 2 jack, if a PTT mic is connected, it's keyed, too. Can/Will anyone help diagnose/explain what's going on? I can key up with the PPT mic and fully drive the transmitter at/near 100W, so I don't believe it's an overall output problem. Thanks and 73 de KC4WEJ, Derrick From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:18:22 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: fkartsot@grtpa01.grt.ch.etn.com (Foster Kartsotis) Subject: native tcpip from win95 to 2meter? Message-ID: <31569d9d.6869548@pgh.nauticom.net> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 1996 13:25:15 GMT Has anyone used dial-up networking in win95 to get onto 2 meter tcpip? Seems to me its not necessary to use a third party nos when win95 comes with a real nice tcpip package. Is tcpip on 2 meters using slip or ppp? I know win95 can handle mutlihomed connects as i can easily be on a LAN and dial-up to my ISP via dial-up networking. Windows knows where to send the packets and does quite well. This same feature would make a nice 32bit connection to 2 meter tcpip. has anyone given this a try? foster n3jku fkartsot@grtpa01.grt.ch.etn.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:18:24 1996 From: "S. Sampson" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.misc Subject: NWS WWIN EMWIN and One-Way Data Solutions Date: Sun, 24 Mar 1996 22:34:04 -0600 Message-ID: <3156223C.ED7@telepath.com> A friend of mine went to the Tulsa hamfest this weekend, and saw a demo by SkyWalker Data Systems. They sell a decoder for the NWS data transmissions. I hadn't heard of this, and it sounded interesting to see what I could find on the Web. It was quite a battle with the several search engines, but I finally did track down the main page. It is: http://www.nws.noaa.gov/oso/oso1/oso12/document/emwin.htm There's a schematic and protocol description. Basically it is 1200,N,8,1 and the components are a TCM3105 and a MAX232. Here locally (Oklahoma City area) the data is transmitted on 169.025. I think this is a great application for home use. How many of us really listen to the NWS audio? The data products will be of much higher value. I notice that Kantronics has released their new Amateur Paging upgrade to the KPC-9612. It might make a great combo to transmit Alerts via alphanumeric pagers (people chasing storms). I can see the need for voice diminishing, and the greater throughput and reliability that can be achieved. I'm sure there are many more applications for both of these systems. I'm thinking about making a clone of the NWS idea and transmitting all the BBS messages as files. A person would never have to log on to a BBS ever again. Anyone could just tune an old scanner to the frequency and use the software to store each file. You could then read the junk once a month a keep up with the Morse Code debate :-) Here's the two companies with products: 1) Maryland Radio Center, Inc. 8576 Laureldale Drive Laurel, MD 20724 (301) 725-1212 (800) 447-7489 BBS with demo software (301) 725-8307 EMWIN datastream on-line demo, 1200-8-N-1 (301) 725-6467 a) MRC demodulator kit, unassembled $29.95 b) MRC demodulator, assembled and tested $69.95 c) MRC Weathernode software $49.95 d) MRC WeatherNode software plus the demodulator kit $69.95 e) MRC WeatherNode software plus the assembled demodulator $99.95 $5 shipping, + 5% sales tax for MD addresses. Call for their latest prices and special discounts. 2) SkyWalker Data Systems, Inc. 7303 West 35th Str. Tulsa, OK 74107 (918) 445-1488 a) MRC Weathernode software plus the assembled demodulator $99.95 $5 shipping, + 4.5% sales tax for OK addresses. -- Steve Sampson, N5OWK mailto:ssampson@telepath.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:18:25 1996 From: Bob Winingham Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Packet modems with GPS Date: 24 Mar 1996 05:59:41 GMT Message-ID: <4j2ocd$68m@news.onramp.net> References: <4is9g9$e9p@news.xs4all.nl> To: MVDAMME@xs4all.nl >>This would be great. Please could you let me know what they mean with >>"Does GPS" and waht else I would need to create my own little GPS >>receiver. NO What they are saying is that you can connect your own GPS unit to the TNC modem and SEND GPS location info over your radio with out a computer running the TNC. 73 kc5ejk@amsat.org From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:18:28 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: jwl@cray.com (James W. Lynch) Subject: Re: pakratt help! Message-ID: <1996Mar26.100614.9413@walter.cray.com> Reply-To: jwl@cray.com References: <31546085.15801613@pgh.nauticom.net> Date: 26 Mar 96 10:06:14 CST Foster Kartsotis (kartsfp@ch.etn.com) wrote: : received my new pakratt pk232-mbx friday and she stopped working : saturday. seems i issued a reset command to restore the factory : original settings and now shes braindead. i power-on and do not : receive the boot-up screen. lights come on and she goes right to : baudot mode but nobody is home. : is there a way i can do a hard reset on this unit? : any help would be appreciated. : foster : n3jku When you enter a reset command, the baud rate goes back to a default rate but I don't know what it is for sure. Look in the manual. What it is waiting for is someone to type an *. That will enable the TNC to autodetect the baud rate. Even if you do the hard reset on the PK-232, you will have to figure out how to enter the *. How you enter it is really dependent on your software. I suggest reading the docs that came with the software to see if it covers resets. Jim. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jim Lynch, Sales Analyst, Cray Research, Inc. / ARS: K4GVO Southeast District, Phone: (770) 631-2254, Email: jwl@cray.com Suite 270, 200 Westpark Drive, Peachtree City, GA 30269 From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:18:29 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: pakratt help! From: 7z1is@sahara.com (Ibrahim Alshugair) Distribution: world Message-ID: <292.7296.27.0N366C8F@sahara.com> References: <31546085.15801613@pgh.nauticom.net> Date: Mon, 25 Mar 96 00:23:00 +0300 Hi -> received my new pakratt pk232-mbx friday and she stopped working -> saturday. seems i issued a reset command to restore the factory -> original settings and now shes braindead. i power-on and do not -> receive the boot-up screen. lights come on and she goes right to -> baudot mode but nobody is home. -> -> is there a way i can do a hard reset on this unit? -> -> any help would be appreciated. OK Try this Keep your tnc off load the program after that switch it on then press * star for 4 or 5 times one after another it w'll initiat the tnc. if it did not work try to use Lan-Link program if its available with u and do the same above steps then Esc ,N ,I these w'll initiate it sure it w'll work. hope these tips w'll help u .. Best 73's from Saudi Arabia de Ibrahim E-mail 7z1is@sahara.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:18:30 1996 From: quans@mbh.ORG (Simon Quantrill) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: PKTDRVERS Date: 26 Mar 96 21:31:30 GMT Message-ID: <3389246927@p18.f101.n323.z205.mbh.org> Reply-To: quans@mbh.org Hi Could anybody point me to the cyrm?? packet driver source code ? I need the plip driver for my jnos - linux hook up. Cheers.. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:18:31 1996 From: Dave Maciorowski Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: PKTDRVERS Date: 27 Mar 1996 12:51:41 GMT Message-ID: <4jbdkt$1v6@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> References: <3389246927@p18.f101.n323.z205.mbh.org> To: quans@mbh.ORG quans@mbh.ORG (Simon Quantrill) wrote: >Hi Could anybody point me to the cyrm?? packet driver source code ? >I need the plip driver for my jnos - linux hook up. >Cheers.. Packet drivers, utilities, and source are available at: ftp://oak.oakland.edu/simtel/msdos/pktdrvr/ ----- Dave Maciorowski, WA1JHK Colorado Repeater Association, Inc. Serving Colorado with Voice and Data, 6-Meters to 1.2 Gig Internet: wa1jhk@ix.netcom.com or wa1jhk@amsat.org CRA: http://www.rmsd.com/hamradio/cra/ From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:18:32 1996 From: BOYCRUZ <104152.2610@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: phl.media,rec.antiques.radio+phono,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment Subject: Popular Commun Free Back Issues Date: 30 Mar 1996 18:04:49 GMT Message-ID: <4jjt41$hsq$2@mhafc.production.compuserve.com> I have around two dozen POPULAR COMMUNICATIONS magazines from the late 1980s years 1987 88 and 89 and have no use for them anymore I would be willing to give these away individually or all together if you want to pay postage Contact me for further info! Lots of articles on shortwave, dxing, radio stations etc From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:18:33 1996 From: Mike Berg Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Q: MFJ 2mtr Data Radios Date: Tue, 19 Mar 96 17:08:43 PDT Message-ID: References: <4i9u8s$43c@news2.nkn.net> In Article<4i9u8s$43c@news2.nkn.net>, write: > Path: cronkite.polaristel.net!news4.mr.net!mr.net!chi-news.cic.net!news.math .psu.edu!psuvax1!uwm.edu!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!newsfeed.i nternetmci.com!in2.uu.net!news.nkn.net!news > From: jack@cyberloans.com > Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc > Subject: Q: MFJ 2mtr Data Radios > Date: 14 Mar 1996 20:06:52 GMT > Organization: National Knowledge Network > Lines: 13 > Message-ID: <4i9u8s$43c@news2.nkn.net> > Reply-To: jack@cyberloans.com > NNTP-Posting-Host: kf5mg.ttsi.tandem.com > X-Newsreader: IBM NewsReader/2 v1.2.5 > > Does anyone have any experience with the MFJ Data Radio running on a > 9600b link? I read the Apr96 ( or was it Mar96 ) that had a small, write up > on it. The article indicated that it had a poor receiver and that the > author didn't try and do any 9600b stuff. Any info on it's performance or > mods needed for 9600b would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. > > 73's de Jack - kf5mg > Internet / hobby - kf5mg@kf5mg.ampr.org - home (817) 488-4386 > work - jack@cyberloans.com - work (214) 516-6270 > +=========================================================================+ > + I am Homer of Borg.... prepare to be assim... oooo... Donuts... + > +=========================================================================+ > I own two of them. For what they are, they work well at both 1k2 and 9k6 speeds. The receiver is not going to ever see .25 uv sensitivity, but until I hooked it up to the service monitor I didn't have any problems :) I run mine on a network here one serving as the 2m 1k2 port radio into a amp w/45 watts out. Runs day in and day out w/o a problem. 73 Mike From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:18:35 1996 From: Dave Maciorowski Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: RM-8737 - was Re: 33cm band and spread spectrum tech Date: 27 Mar 1996 13:27:38 GMT Message-ID: <4jbfoa$3jv@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> References: <1996Mar25.181858.23042@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4j6rao$62q@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <1996Mar26.174339.27722@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <1996Mar26.160016.489@nad.com> landisj@nad.com (Joe Landis - Systems & Network Mgr) wrote: >In RM-8737, the ARRL quietly petioned the FCC last December to relax the >restrictions on SS operations in ALL bands 144mhz(I think) and above. >The deadline for comments expired a few weeks ago. > >This was discussed in detail on the vhf reflector, with many weak signal >operators filing comments with the FCC urging this be reconsidered. > >Does anyone have the original text of RM-8737 to post? Even a way for a >non-ftp site to obtain it would be fine. [snip] TAPR maintains a Spread Spectrum page at "http://www.tapr.org/ss/". It includ es the full text of RM-8737 and many submitted comments. They also have an e-mai l discussion list for Spread Spectrum. ----- Dave Maciorowski, WA1JHK Colorado Repeater Association, Inc. Serving Colorado with Voice and Data, 6-Meters to 1.2 Gig Internet: wa1jhk@ix.netcom.com or wa1jhk@amsat.org CRA: http://www.rmsd.com/hamradio/cra/ From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:18:36 1996 From: landisj@nad.com (Joe Landis - Systems & Network Mgr) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: RM-8737 - was Re: 33cm band and spread spectrum tech Message-ID: <1996Mar26.160016.489@nad.com> Date: 26 Mar 96 16:00:16 EST References: <1996Mar25.181858.23042@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> <4j6rao$62q@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> <1996Mar26.174339.27722@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Distribution: world In RM-8737, the ARRL quietly petioned the FCC last December to relax the restrictions on SS operations in ALL bands 144mhz(I think) and above. The deadline for comments expired a few weeks ago. This was discussed in detail on the vhf reflector, with many weak signal operators filing comments with the FCC urging this be reconsidered. Does anyone have the original text of RM-8737 to post? Even a way for a non-ftp site to obtain it would be fine. In general I think relaxing the rules on SS experimentation is fantastic, and a great way to put more users on the higher bands. But on the other hand, it needs to be carefully controlled so as not to interfere with at least weak signal users, and probably should not take place on the bands below 903mhz. 73, Joe - AA3GN In article <1996Mar26.174339.27722@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gar y Coffman) writes: > In article <4j6rao$62q@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> cgreenha@magnus.acs. ohio-state.edu (Christopher K Greenhalgh) writes: >>In article <1996Mar25.181858.23042@ke4zv.atl.ga.us>, >>Gary Coffman wrote: >> >>>These cards operate *spread spectrum* which means that the signal energy >>>is spread over a channel bandwidth of 22 MHz. This is *not* too wide a >>>bandwidth for the 33cm band. The rules only require that the signal energy >>>be contained within the band, and this qualifies. >> >>Hi Gary. >> >>Perhaps you can clarify...does this mean I can transmit "spread spectrum" >>om 2 meters, and use all the band (ie; 144 t0 148)? Wouldnt this interfere >>with...well...everybody on 2 meters? >> >>Maybe Im missing something here... :( > > You're missing a couple of things. A) SS is not allowed on 2m (under > the current rules), and B) by spreading the signal energy over a wide > bandwidth, the amount of energy at any given frequency at any given time > is miniscule, so it doesn't interfere with narrow band users, and of > course SS users have to have their sequences synchronized in order to > hear each other, so by syncing to a different part of a sequence, or > to a different sequence, they avoid interfering with each other too. > > As a band fills with many SS signals, the only thing noticable to > a user of the band is a gradual rise in the apparent noise floor. > Unlike with narrow modes, there is no clash of titans as signals > overlap each other, no hetrodyning, splattering, buckshotting, > and desensing of each other. > > The thing that makes this possible is called "correlation gain". > A SS receiver is a perfect matched filter for a SS transmission. > It effectively sums all the signal energy back into a coherent > despread whole while *not* correlating noise (and other signals > on the band not synced to the same sequence are for practical > purposes noise). So while to a narrowband user a SS signal is > inaudible, to a user with a synchronized SS receiver it is loud > and clear. And besides the natural and automatic load spreading > and band sharing inherent in SS, there is also another positive > attribute of SS, and that is good immunity to multipath. Because > it transmits on many frequencies, it forms a frequency diversity > system resistant to multipath. > > Use of SS is fully compatible with FM, repeaters, ATV, SSB, and > CW operations. The only operators adversely impacted by SS operations > are narrowband weak signal operators. Because of the apparent rise > in the noise floor, very weak signals can be adversely affected. > To avoid that, certain band segments need to be set aside for this > use, and SS systems should use sequences that avoid spreading into > those weak signal segments. That's pretty easy to arrange. Of course, > weak signal operators could *also* take advantage of SS technique and > not be as adversely affected. The inherent diversity in the technique > would be useful to deal with Rayleigh scattering and Faraday rotation > encountered by EME operators, for example. > > Gary -- Joe Landis - Systems and Network Manager - North American Drager - Telford, PA landisj@nad.com ..speaking only for myself, of course.. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:18:37 1996 From: n5ejs@linknet.net (Russ) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Site or place to FTP packet Bulletins? Date: Sat, 23 Mar 1996 16:50:03 GMT Message-ID: <4j45i9$tj6@news.linknet.net> Reply-To: n5ejs@linknet.net Anyone out there know of an FTP site where I can download PBBS bulletins? I have one place on a LL BBS but the long distance charges are getting too high to continue. Maybe a Telenetable BBS where they can be downloaded? Thanks for any help. de N5EJS Russ in Pollock, LA. Packet: N5EJS2WG5W.#CENLA.LA.USA.NA E-mail: n5ejs@linknet.net From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:18:38 1996 From: bhorne@lynx.dac.neu.edu (Bill Horne) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: tcp/ip articles sought Date: 26 Mar 1996 18:24:53 GMT Message-ID: <4j9cpl$kk0@chaos.dac.neu.edu> Summary: Solicitation of authors Keywords: tcp/ip tcp'er Thanks for reading this. The TCP'er, which is the newsletter of the NorthEast TCP Association, welcomes articles for the April or subsequent issues. You may write on any subject you choose, so long as it's related to amateur radio tcp/ip use. We welcome technical, operating, and editorial material. Since the TCP'er is distributed electronically, please confine submissions to 7 bit ASCII, single spaced. 73, Bill AA1ES acting editor -- Bill Horne bhorne@lynx.neu.edu From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:18:39 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: TCP/IP w/ BAYCOMM and W95 Message-ID: From: crowe@geovax.geo.wvu.edu (Randy Crowe) Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 16:04:31 GMT Summary: Any suggestions Before I get too far involved, I was wondering if anyone has any thoughts on using a BAYCOMM type modem and TCP/IP. To make things even more interesting, how about with Windows-95. I have BAYCOMM 1.4 running now, but am interested in getting involved with the local TCP/IP group here. I know the best thing is to buy a "proper" TNC, however... 'sides, what fun is it if it's easy :-) Any thoughts will be appreciated. 73's Randy N8OZY crowe@geovax.geo.wvu.edu From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:18:40 1996 From: n7tcf@primenet.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Ten-Tec 2m Transceiver kit @ 9600 baud? Date: 25 Mar 1996 05:37:01 -0700 Message-ID: <4j641d$ljn@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> Reply-To: n7tcf@primenet.com I am considering the new Ten-Tec 2m kit. The ad says it has a connector for 1200b. I wonder if it can handle 9600? I plan to call Ten-Tec today, for more details and will post what I learn. Jim N7TCF From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:18:41 1996 From: tomcar@newshost.li.net (Tom Carrubba) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: TNC Which one? Please help` Date: 23 Mar 1996 12:08:40 GMT Message-ID: <4j0pk8$etr@linet06.li.net> References: <4im92d$n6q@esinet1.esinet.net> Ed Lang (edlangjr@esinet.net) wrote: : I have read posts here and have asked this question to others. Now I ask yo u! : I will buy a TNC in the next few days and would like to make the right choic e : the first time. I will want to use RTTY, Pactor, Amtor, Packet and maybe CW . : I run Win95 and have a IC-736 HF rig and an Alinco DR-110 VHF rig. I would : like to hear from you as to your opinion of a good TNC and why you like it. : My top three choices now are: : MFJ-1278B or 1278B/DSP (no Win software that I know of) : KAM+ and KaWin software : PK-232MBX and Packratt win or PKGold : I have not listed the TNC in any order. : Thank you for your help! : 73 Ed Lang : KC4YLX : edlangjr@esinet.net HI Ed, I use the KAM+ and Hostmaster II program. The Hostmaster II does not have all the features of KAGold, but it is not in the same price class. I am very happy with my choice. I use the KAM+/HM II combo ever day and it works fb. It is nice to be connected to the DX cluster, see a spot on HF digital, activate that mode, work the station and never change your display..very nice feature. I recommend the KAM+ because of it's capability to run HF and VHF/UFH simultaniously...the software is your choice. Good luck. 73-- ============================================================================ Tom Carrubba "To err is human, but to really foul N. Babylon, NY things up requires a computer......" KA2DFO packet radio| ka2dfo@kc2fd.ny.usa.na ============================================================================ From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:18:43 1996 From: tomcar@newshost.li.net (Tom Carrubba) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: TNC Which one? Please help` Date: 23 Mar 1996 12:32:05 GMT Message-ID: <4j0r05$f22@linet06.li.net> References: <4im92d$n6q@esinet1.esinet.net> Hi Ed, I recommend the KAM+. I use the KAM+ with kantronics Hostmaster II program. The program is easy to set up and runs in all operating systems. I have run in DOS, win3.11, and now in WIN'95. The KAGold is also a nice program, but a bit pricey for me budget. Good luck. 73-- ============================================================================ Tom Carrubba "To err is human, but to really foul N. Babylon, NY things up requires a computer......" KA2DFO packet radio| ka2dfo@kc2fd.ny.usa.na ============================================================================ From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:18:43 1996 From: paulie@pryan.data.binghamton.edu (Paul Bobby) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: TNC Which one? Packet ONLY Date: 23 Mar 1996 13:56:35 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1.5.4b12.32.19960322011057.00665614@mailbox.arn.net> Some great suggestions for folks interested in all-mode, how about just an interest in 9600bps packet only? The radio will come later..... I know about DSP, that would be ideal, but I've no idea about the products. -- Paul Bobby - paulie@data.binghamton.edu Key fingerprint = E1 A4 41 6E 43 48 31 C6 33 EF 9E 48 1A 69 B6 4B KeyServer ID = 0xD9CEE7C1 From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:18:44 1996 From: davidL@sisl.co.uk (Lyndon David) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: UK contacts wanted Date: 26 Mar 1996 17:16:04 GMT Message-ID: <4j98ok$dnc@news.bt.net> Dear All, I live in Fleet Hampshire (UK). I know a lot about TCP/IP and Unix and setting up Internet gateways (I do it for a living). I am very interested in all aspects of radio data comms and would like to know more. Therefore, can anyone tell me if there is a club close to Fleet and how I contact them, or if any knowledgable person in the M4 corridor could spare an evening (Ill buy the beer) Thanks Lyndon David. From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:18:45 1996 From: dsterner@neosoft.com (Don Sterner) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: What is being done to make the WWW possible on Packet Radio? Date: 26 Mar 1996 21:50:07 GMT Message-ID: <4j9oqf$5rc@uuneo.neosoft.com> References: <4j8lvc$ctv@cletus.bright.net> In article <4j8lvc$ctv@cletus.bright.net>, grimessa@bright.net says... > >I was just curious on what is being done right now to make >the WWW come alive on packet radio. I thought I hear from >someone that testing was starting over in virginia. Let me >know if there is any sites I can visit to learn more about >this. I will be getting into nos which is about half of what >I need to get into TCP/IP over packet radio. Thanks Steve Geez. I think my browser is slow at 28.8kbps, can you imagine a 2400bps connect through 2mtr? From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:18:47 1996 From: Dave Maciorowski Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: What is being done to make the WWW possible on Packet Radio? Date: 27 Mar 1996 13:05:47 GMT Message-ID: <4jbefb$1v6@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> References: <4j8lvc$ctv@cletus.bright.net> To: wa1jhk@ix.netcom.com,grimessa@bright.net grimessa@bright.net wrote: >I was just curious on what is being done right now to make >the WWW come alive on packet radio. I thought I hear from >someone that testing was starting over in virginia. Let me >know if there is any sites I can visit to learn more about >this. I will be getting into nos which is about half of what >I need to get into TCP/IP over packet radio. Thanks Steve WWW is alive and well over TCP and packet here in Colorado. Our area is served by two 9600 baud digital repeaters (more to come) providing 500 bytes-per-second throughput (a 14.4 modem provides 1600 bytes-per-sec). Performance is quite acceptable as long as you turn off graphics in your browser or stay away from sites that have much graphics. Things will get better when we install our 56kb digital repeater :-) See http://www.rmsd.com/hamradio/dwg.html for some background on what we're doing here on TCP. Dale already mentioned the southeast. Other areas with high TCP activity are Seattle at http://www.wetnet.ampr.org/ and Ottawa at http://hydra/carleton.ca/ ----- Dave Maciorowski, WA1JHK Colorado Repeater Association, Inc. Serving Colorado with Voice and Data, 6-Meters to 1.2 Gig Internet: wa1jhk@ix.netcom.com or wa1jhk@amsat.org CRA: http://www.rmsd.com/hamradio/cra/ From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:18:48 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: sabible@ilinkgn.net (Sheila A. Bible) Subject: Re: What is being done to make the WWW possible on Packet Radio? Message-ID: <31b7cc$f156.2d1@genesis.ilinkgn.net> Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 20:23:33 GMT Reply-To: sabible@ilinkgn.net References: <4j8lvc$ctv@cletus.bright.net> grimessa@bright.net wrote: >I was just curious on what is being done right now to make >the WWW come alive on packet radio. I thought I hear from >someone that testing was starting over in virginia. Let me >know if there is any sites I can visit to learn more about >this. I will be getting into nos which is about half of what >I need to get into TCP/IP over packet radio. Thanks Steve Steve, I wrote an article in the July 1995 QST on how to get Linux up and running as a web server for packet using the native ax.25 in the Linux kernel. I used the system on 440 MHz 9600 bps packet and it worked great. At 9600 bps you cannot have huge graphic files. Text flows smoothly, however. Now if you move to spread spectrum you'll have something. Also you can consider 56kbps modems. The idea was to create a hub based system (ala' N6GN style) and have the users buy TEKK radios and 3 ele beams to point at the hub. Then link the hubs using 56kbps. My article was NOT on how to link the internet to packet. I'd rather we build our own stand-alone system and link into the internet every once in a while. This way, when the rf link is needed, such as in a disaster and phone lines are down, the packet side of the link is up a running. Have fun! Steve, N7HPR From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:18:50 1996 From: cyamamot@kilroy.jpl.nasa.gov (Cliff Yamamoto) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: What is being done to make the WWW possible on Packet Radio? Date: 28 Mar 1996 16:07:57 GMT Message-ID: <4jedgt$26i@netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov> References: <4j8lvc$ctv@cletus.bright.net> <4jbefb$1v6@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> In article <4jbefb$1v6@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>, Dave Maciorowski wrote: >grimessa@bright.net wrote: >>I was just curious on what is being done right now to make >>the WWW come alive on packet radio. > >WWW is alive and well over TCP and packet here in Colorado. Our area is >served by two 9600 baud digital repeaters (more to come) providing 500 >bytes-per-second throughput (a 14.4 modem provides 1600 bytes-per-sec). Perhaps I've been living in the past, and if so will someone please correct me. But I thought routing traffic *from* the Internet *to* packet radio was a no-no mainly because of the profanity that could slip through? Now I know there are some Internet<->Packetradio G/Ws out there and perhaps they exist because the sysop monitors and review all outgoing messages, but how is that going to work for httpd? Also wouldn't the viewing of some commercial URL be considered using ham radio for commercial uses? Again, this is not a flame or spam. I sold my Grapes DSY and my MM432-28 xverter a while back when I found out about all these restrictions in ham radio packet. If things have changed, or if I've been mis-informed all along, I would have had 56Kbit running in Los Angeles 4 years ago. Any enlightenment appreciated. - Cliff Yamamoto (KA6JRG) From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:18:51 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: What is being done to make the WWW possible on Packet Radio? Message-ID: <1996Mar29.204219.12494@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) References: <4j8lvc$ctv@cletus.bright.net> <4jbefb$1v6@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> <4jedgt$26i@netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 20:42:19 GMT In article <4jedgt$26i@netline-fddi.jpl.nasa.gov> cyamamot@kilroy.jpl.nasa.gov (Cliff Yamamoto) writes: >In article <4jbefb$1v6@dfw-ixnews3.ix.netcom.com>, >Dave Maciorowski wrote: >>grimessa@bright.net wrote: >>>I was just curious on what is being done right now to make >>>the WWW come alive on packet radio. >> >>WWW is alive and well over TCP and packet here in Colorado. Our area is >>served by two 9600 baud digital repeaters (more to come) providing 500 >>bytes-per-second throughput (a 14.4 modem provides 1600 bytes-per-sec). > >Perhaps I've been living in the past, and if so will someone please >correct me. But I thought routing traffic *from* the Internet *to* packet >radio was a no-no mainly because of the profanity that could slip through? >Now I know there are some Internet<->Packetradio G/Ws out there and perhaps >they exist because the sysop monitors and review all outgoing messages, >but how is that going to work for httpd? I believe these folks are talking about an *amateur radio* www, not necessarily involving a connection to the internet. There's no reason we can't put up our own amateur web pages and let others browse them, all over amateur radio with no wireline types involved at all. If connections to the wireline are allowed, you're right that there is the potential for problems. For example, a user accessing www.playboy.com might cause a stir on the radio side. >Also wouldn't the viewing of some commercial URL be considered using ham >radio for commercial uses? Not under current rules, as long as the amateurs have no commercial interest in the site. See the "order a pizza over the autopatch" rules change. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Sat Mar 30 14:18:53 1996 From: Dave Maciorowski Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Windows, TCP/IP and packet radio? Date: 23 Mar 1996 14:46:58 GMT Message-ID: <4j12t2$db7@cloner2.ix.netcom.com> References: <4itia8$lfj@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> Hi Chris, crest3@pitt.edu (Chris Evans) wrote: >I am interested in getting into packet radio but I do not yet know the >capabilities of packet radio. Would it be possible to put a machine on the >internet via packet radio? Sure, but it depends on the services provided by your local TCP/IP network. Here in Colorado, there are entry points into our backbone from 2-meters and 440 at 1200 and 9600 baud. There are a couple of 9600 baud wide-area coverage repeaters on 440 for easy access. A Linux-based Internet Firewall/Gateway allows the local guys to have access to the Internet -- the Firewall keeps non-hams off the radio side. > Also, can I use 56k in all areas and get on the >net or only in areas with a network gateway such as Grapes or the other state >nets? Only where there is 56K access to the local network. Our Northeast Colorado 56kb access point is under construction. For more info on the Northeast Colorado TCP activities, see: http://www.rmsd.com/hamradio/dwg.html ----- Dave Maciorowski, WA1JHK Colorado Repeater Association, Inc. Serving Colorado with Voice and Data, 6-Meters to 1.2 Gig Internet: wa1jhk@ix.netcom.com or wa1jhk@amsat.org CRA: http://www.rmsd.com/hamradio/cra/ From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:02:34 1996 From: crest3@pitt.edu (Chris Evans) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Packet radio tcp/ip in western PA Date: Mon, 25 Mar 96 17:00:09 GMT Message-ID: <4j5gi9$hjn@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> Does anyone have information on packet tcp/ip activity in Pittsburgh, or in the Dubois, Clearfield, Punx. area? From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:02:35 1996 From: grimessa@bright.net Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: What is being done to make the WWW possible on Packet Radio? Date: Tue, 26 Mar 96 06:56:12 Message-ID: <4j8lvc$ctv@cletus.bright.net> I was just curious on what is being done right now to make the WWW come alive on packet radio. I thought I hear from someone that testing was starting over in virginia. Let me know if there is any sites I can visit to learn more about this. I will be getting into nos which is about half of what I need to get into TCP/IP over packet radio. Thanks Steve From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:02:36 1996 From: Will Flor Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Packet modems with GPS Date: 27 Mar 1996 14:50:29 GMT Message-ID: <4jbkjl$pcc@news.inc.net> References: <4is9g9$e9p@news.xs4all.nl> MVDAMME@xs4all.nl (Maarten van Damme) wrote: >Hello, > >In this months CQ I noticed that many packet modem ad also contained >the caption "Now does GPS"! > >As a SWL-er with an interest in RTTY and other digital modes I was >wondering what this GPS does in the context of packet modems. > Here's a guess: Here in the US many hams connect a GPS receiver directly to a TNC (not exactly a "packet modem" - there's more to one than a modem - but I'm sure that's what you're re ferring to) and the TNC than outputs AX.25-encoded APRS packets, for automatically rel aying your position (read from the GPS receiver via its NMEA data output) over packet rad io to other stations running a computer program called APRS, which then plots your l ocation and the locations of others on a map. Other information such as short message s, weather reports, etc. can also be transferred via APRS. Originally, a station runing APRS required a computer hooked up to the GPS receiver and the TNC; many TNCs today have firmware built into them so that no computer is necessary for a "stand-alone t racker," a station which transmits APRS packets but does not receive them or display the map, etc. Could this be what you're referring to? > >Would it be possible to retrieve your exact location by using one of >the modems, the correct receiver (Scanner radio?) and the correct >antenna, and probably a piece of software? > There is digital data being transmitted from the GPS constellation, but I doub t that the TNCs you're seeing advertised can demodulate it. Remember - the transmissions are direct-sequence spread spectrum - a conventional scanner wouldn't be able to d o the job. > >This would be great. Please could you let me know what they mean with >"Does GPS" and waht else I would need to create my own little GPS >receiver. > Well, that's my guess. If you *really* want to create your own little GPS rec eiver, by far the best way is to order an RF board assembly from a GPS manufacturer such as Motorola, Rockwell, or Garmin. They typically connect directly to the antenna and output the NMEA data mentioned above. Design your own control circuitry and u ser interface, and you're off! Not a complicated project for one familiar with el ectronics and embedded control systems. I'm working on one now, based on the Garmin 25 board, a 12-channel parallel receiver board - far better than the RF section of any of their handhelds. > >Maarten van Damme > 73 de Will KB9JTT From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:02:37 1996 From: ea3pb@redestb.es (Albert Sole) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Looking for FWD via e-mail Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 21:32:11 GMT Message-ID: <4jcc0v$6bm@minerva.ibernet.es> Reply-To: ea3pb@redestb.es Hi all. I am looking for international FWD via e-mail. If you are interested, send me a message (not FWD yet). 73 de Albert, EA3PB@EA3PB.EAB.ESP.EU E-mail: ea3pb@redestb.es From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:02:38 1996 From: Mark Schoonover Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Got Packet checksum code - thanks! Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 08:20:09 -0800 Message-ID: <315ABC39.5F1@cts.com> References: <4ja6jk$210i@news.doit.wisc.edu> Dave: I too would be interested in where you found this information. Would it be possible for me to ftp it from a site?? TIA Mark -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Mark Schoonover -- KA6WKE E-Mail: schoon@cts.com San Diego, CA Kenwood R-1000, BC2500XLT, PK232MBX/JVFAX, 66' Indoor Dipole ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:02:39 1996 From: luru@foibe.otol.fi (Ari Husa) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: KAM Upgrades Date: 29 Mar 1996 18:56:52 GMT Message-ID: I have been offered an old Kantronics KAM TNC. It does not seem to know the latest HF modes (e.g. PACTOR, G-TOR). What are the upgrade possibilities for it? The serial number is 100 06262 and the EPROM has a label '2.85'. Thanks, Luru -- /// AriMattiJuhaniHusaOH8NUPAri.Husa@iki. o-o fiTiedonkaari6D25FIN-90570OULUFinland o 9405020236http://www.iki.fi/ari.husa/ From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:02:40 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: midgard@nycmetro.com (SARUMAN) Subject: Re: What is being done to make the WWW possible on Packet Radio? Message-ID: <1728.6662T648T994@nycmetro.com> References: <1996Mar28.173548.7038@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 1996 22:43:26 GMT >In article <4j9oqf$5rc@uuneo.neosoft.com> dsterner@neosoft.com (Don Sterner) >writes: >>In article <4j8lvc$ctv@cletus.bright.net>, grimessa@bright.net says... >>> >>>I was just curious on what is being done right now to make >>>the WWW come alive on packet radio. I thought I hear from >>>someone that testing was starting over in virginia. Let me >>>know if there is any sites I can visit to learn more about >>>this. I will be getting into nos which is about half of what >>>I need to get into TCP/IP over packet radio. Thanks Steve >> >>Geez. I think my browser is slow at 28.8kbps, can you imagine >>a 2400bps connect through 2mtr? >Well that sounds more like a good argument for upgrading your >packet setup than it does as an argument against better applications >appearing on packet. I'm sure the web would crawl with a 1200 baud >telco modem too, if anyone bothered to still use such antique modems >on the phone. At 56 kb, the web flies just fine on packet. >Gary >-- >Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems >Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp >addresses >534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org >Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | This sounds GREAT! I'm just looking into Packet myself and it's lovely to se e there's 56k Packet Modems about to be released! Midgard Graphics 3D Animation and Special FX for the hobbyist videographer Email: midgard@nycmetro.com -- Drop into #amigacafe on IRC's undernet for a chat sometime -- A man of many hobby's master of none. From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:02:41 1996 From: randolw@ix.netcom.com(Randol D. Williams) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: West Coast Pactor info needed Date: 29 Mar 1996 23:50:13 GMT Message-ID: <4jhsvl$d1e@dfw-ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> Greetings all: I am looking for current stations operating Pactor-BBS's/packet gates on the West Coast of North America. If any guidance on Pactor operations is available I will be most thankful. Tricks of the trade, etc. Thanks. Randy N7CJE From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:02:42 1996 From: axinar@one.net (Axinar) Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: AEA PCB-88, Windows95, Procomm Plus 2.11 Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 00:30:27 GMT Message-ID: <4jhvb8$9lr@news.one.net> Reply-To: axinar@one.net I am running an AEA PCB-88 internal TNC with Windows95 and Procomm Plus 2.11 for Windows. Problem: If I set my TBAUD higher than 1200 I get dropped characters. I have checked everything I could think to check. It works fine at higher TBAUD rates in DOS, but consistently gives me dropped characters in Windows95 both with Procomm Plus 2.11 and Hyperterminal. Any ideas? Thanks! John KB8GYS @ K8SCH.#CIN.OH.USA.NA From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:02:43 1996 From: muphaus@cris.com (Marv Uphaus) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Baycom & Laptops Date: 30 Mar 1996 01:16:25 -0500 Message-ID: References: <4imq4v$lrm@kodak.rdcs.Kodak.COM> <3151A2C8.32@lanl.gov> Reply-To: muphaus@cris.com On 28 Mar 1996 15:09:45 -0500 bat@gateway.grumman.com (Pat Masterson) wrote: > But, I really think its RF geting into the computer that mostly >causes lockups. Seems logical, as its always SEND mode when it hangs. >So, try some grounding and shielding first. And get the antenna >far up and away from the computer. Try running BayCom without a rig connected... You will probably find that it still hangs up in send mode... Mine did...!!! (No RF problem there...) The BayCom L2 program DOES NOT WORK with some laptops... Use TFPCX and MUBAY...!!! 73, Marv, K4BVG... ----------------------------------------------------------- Even when the experts all agree, they may well be mistaken. --Bertrand Russell PGP PUBLIC KEY posted at pgp.mit.edu ----------------------------------------------------------- From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:02:44 1996 From: "Gary C. Carlson K0CVF" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: 10 GHz data link Date: 30 Mar 1996 01:41:24 GMT Message-ID: <4ji3g4$ho6@swifty.cfa.org> References: <1996Mar25.101547.1532@batman> > I am looking for construction articles/ instructions on building a Gunnplexers. Try N6GN's Higher Speed Packet Page ftp://col.hp.com/hamradio/packet/n6gn/index.html Gary K0CVF From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:02:44 1996 From: radiomatt@aol.com (Radiomatt) Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: Cheated by MARTIN DURHAM WT1S Date: 30 Mar 1996 08:19:23 -0500 Message-ID: <4jjccr$jh@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: <4jeodg$kko@hearye.mlb.semi.harris.com> Reply-To: radiomatt@aol.com (Radiomatt) Barry is not disabled. Durham is! Barry seems to live a decent life. From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:02:46 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: john@wd1v.mv.com (John Seney) Subject: Mac Ham Users Group Message-ID: Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 09:08:06 GMT "Macnet Roster" (ver. 739) has just been updated and is now a stand-alone application! The version number = the number of hams using Macs. "Macnet Roster" lists: o CALL SIGN @ HOME PBBS o FULL NAME o ADDRESS o CITY, STATE, ZIP o INTERNET ADDRESS o MACS USED o RADIOS USED o SOFTWARE USED o PASSIONS o COMMENTS of every known amateur radio operator in the world that uses a Mac computer. You can use "Macnet Roster" to find other Mac users that you can then communicate with directly. Compare notes on software, applications, ideas, hints and kinks, and make new ham friends that use the same computer you do. (You already know how cool you are - imagine accessing "the rest of us"!) If you'd like the latest "Macnet Roster": Send me a formatted disk in a self addressed and stamped disk mailer that is in a large envelope clearly marked "ROSTER". Or connect to my home page via the WWW http://www.mv.com/ipusers/wd1v Put YOUR INFO (via EMAIL or disk using TEACH TEXT) if you'd like to be include d in the "Macnet Roster" or send an update to your stats to me via pkt or email anytime. John D. Seney |_|_|_|_| e-mail: john@wd1v.mv.com 144 Pepperidge Dr |_| |_| www http://www.mv.com/ipusers/wd1v Manchester, NH 03103-6150 |_|_ _|_| wireless: wd1v@wb1dsw.nh.usa.noam Voice Mail: 603-533-3472 | | | | | skytel page: 5956779@skymail.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:02:47 1996 From: landisj@nad.com (Joe Landis - Systems & Network Mgr) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: RM-8737 - was Re: 33cm band and spread spectrum tech Message-ID: <1996Mar30.123049.499@nad.com> Date: 30 Mar 96 12:30:48 EST References: <315AD3EC.7C51@telepath.com> Distribution: world In article <315AD3EC.7C51@telepath.com>, "S. Sampson" writes: > Relegating anything to 900 MHz and above ensures no one will use it. Line o f > sight is not much more fun than a telephone. > > I think Hams should not use SS. They should be restricted to Morse Code onl y. > The only amplitude modulation should be AM, with no suppression of carrier > allowed. All FM priveledges should be revoked. > > There, now you can do weak signal and not be interferred with. [rest of rants deleted] Ahh - so much for rational discussion. Never mind Steve, you can stay on the DC bands and braaap to your hearts content, until you can buy an appliance to use spread spectrum to connect you PC appliance to the Internet on the former ham band at 2.3Ghz. Later, Joe - AA3GN -- Joe Landis - Systems and Network Manager - North American Drager - Telford, PA landisj@nad.com ..speaking only for myself, of course.. From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:02:48 1996 From: gjones@teachnet.edb.utexas.edu (Greg Jones) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re(2): RM-8737 - was Re: 33cm band and spread spectrum tech Date: Sat, 30 Mar 96 16:09:02 -0600 Message-ID: <349536.ensmtp@teachnet.edb.utexas.edu> The question you have to ask in regards to SS when people start to discuss things are: Okay, so you think it will raise the noise floor -- 1. please define the noise floor, 2. how does one measure it, and 3. why or how much does it have to be rasied to stop you from doing what you do now. Then, how many amateurs have equipment to measure noise floor and how many amateurs have equipment that can operate at the noise floor ? If not, where do they operate in respect to the noise floor ? ---- In regards to sub-bands: How long do you think it will be before someone in the amateur satellite community is building a SS satellite ? One is rleady being built called PANSAT and is suppose to be launched in the next 2 years. It operates on a center of 436.5 (http://www.sp.nps.navy.mil/pansat/pansat.html) How long before weak signal operators want to operate SS ? Right now. Phil Karn has shown that with the correct encoding techniques you can receive people when you can't hear them any longer. Is that weak signal enough ? You do it right and you could probably operate EME off your really good satellite systems! ---- The demographics of amateur radio is going to drastically change in the coming 10 years. Should we (amateur radio) be setting rules that limit the growth of amateur radio at a time when we need less regulations in order to change with the times before we die as a hobby ? Why is it that modes other than 'traditional' modes are somehow held to a higher standard ? This in respect to many of the digital modes and other modes that come along. All these items point to a classic paradigm shift. It all comes down to what you think amateur radio is about. Is amateur radio about expanding the way we do things and along the way learning something and having fun or is amateur radio about maintaining the status-quo and becoming static. Things to think about ? Cheers - Greg, WD5IVD -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- TeachNet, College of Education, University of Texas, Austin Texas -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:02:50 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: k8zgw@hamnet.org (Don Ritchie K8ZGW) Subject: Re: GE Master II query Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 18:45:06 GMT Message-ID: References: <4j9564$ftg@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> As quoted from <4j9564$ftg@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> by cgreenha@magnus .acs.ohio-state.edu (Christopher K Greenhalgh): +--------------- | Hello all. | | I just got my hands on a GE Master II UHF rig with remote console, mic, | external speaker, and interface cable...basiclly complete. | | I am wanting to put it on 9600 bbs packet. Since this is a rock bound | rig (has 8 "channels"), will it work well? | | Someone also told me this is a 90 watt unit...does anybody have ANY | information on this radio...watts, amp draw, pin out on console, schematic, | crystal source...anything at all, including what it is worth, would be | most appreciated. | | Thanks much, & take care. | | -- | Christopher K. Greenhalgh, N8WCT | Computer/Electronic Tech. II at The Ohio State University | E-Mail: ckg+@osu.edu (cgreenha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) | AX.25 : n8wct@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.noam Chris; The radio is worth about $50 to $100.00 at a hamfest. A 15 amp 12V D.C. should handle it with no trouble in packet service. restuffed channel elements can be had for around $20.00 each, in exchan ge for your old elements. Try 1-800-237-9654 CEH / Kirby Ent. in Cinci. or Hy-Q 606-283-5000 in Ky ( CInci area ) or Sentry @ 1-800-252-6780 to name just a few, there are any number of people doing crystals. The best way to find tech stuff about that radio is to call your local G.E. dealer, there are any number of M - II 's still in service. Try to find a friendly ham in one of the service shops. ( most have at least one ) Good luck. -- Don Ritchie K8ZGW Internet: k8zgw@hamnet.org Cleveland Hamnet BBS (216) 942-6382 From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:02:50 1996 Date: Sat, 30 Mar 1996 20:41:57 EST From: me Message-ID: <96090.204157IO20754@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Is DFSK the same as G3RUH? I have recently purchased a kantronics KPC 9612, and it transmitts 9600 baud with a DFSK method. I was hoping to communicate with a MFJ that ran with the G3RUH modulation scheme. Are these two compatible? Thanks, Aaron KA1VOA E-mail direct please. From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:02:51 1996 From: algollom@interlog.com (Alan Gollom) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: RTTY on the WARC bands Date: 31 Mar 1996 01:05:26 GMT Message-ID: <4jklom$gps@steel.interlog.com> As one who has recently discovered the joys of RTTY, I've been scouting the various bands for activity in that mode. I've discovered a fair bit on 80, 40 and 20 (the open bands these days), but next to nothing on the 30 and 17 meter WARC bands. Now I realize that the WARC bands probably don't appeal to those whose primary interest is contesting. I also guess that there may be a reluctance by some with limited space who want to optomize what space they have for antennas for the bands "where the action is". This is certainly not to say the WARC bands are dead. Far from it. There is a fair bit of activity on phone, cw, packet and the TOR modes, but as I said, little if any on RTTY. There's nice open space there just waiting to be filled. You might be pleasantly surprised by the propagation on these bands and what you can do with just 50 - 100 watts and a simple dipole - especially now during the low end of the solar cycle. So how about giving it a try, RTTY enthusiasts. Break away from the crowds and try something new and a little different - RTTY on the WARC bands. Hope to see you there. 73...Alan VE3XAG From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:02:52 1996 From: Brian Webb <102670.1206@CompuServe.COM> Newsgroups: aus.radio.amateur.digital,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,sanet.radio.packet,alt.radio.digital Subject: MFJ1270C - HTX212 Problems Date: 31 Mar 1996 03:39:33 GMT Message-ID: <4jkupl$iem$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> I own an MFJ1270C packet TNC. I've tried interfacing it with two radios with no luck. I connected it to an HTX202 HT and I had good receive, but no transmit. I used an MFJ premade cable and a homebrew cable with the same problem. Yesterday I tried connecting this TNC to a Radio Shack HTX212 mobile radio. Same problem: Good packet reception, but couldn't key my radio (I was doing the CALIBRA K transmit level adjustment procedure). I removed jumper L as suggested by MFJ and I also removed a 4.7 K ohm resistor that I had hooked in parallel with R140 in my earlier attempt to use my HT. Any idea what is going on here? Regards, Brian Webb, KD6NRP From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:02:53 1996 From: sco@sco-inc.com Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Yaesu 736 Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 04:33:48 GMT Message-ID: <4jl2cv$15go@mule1.mindspring.com> Reply-To: sco@sco-inc.com Has anyone used a Yaesu 736R for Packet? KE4IKT From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:02:55 1996 From: "Walt [N3JPR]" Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Pasokon TV & Win95 Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 04:45:10 -0500 Message-ID: <315E5426.3110@pitt.edu> Help I am using a Pasokon SSTV board and software both work perfect if I exit Win95 and restart in msdos mode. I was wondering if there was a way to either set the jumpers on the board or config. Win in any way as to use the SSTV in Win so I can have axcess to my Snappy and Paint programs without exiting the program and restarting Win doing my pix editing then restarting win. Thanks for any help N3JPR Walt From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:02:56 1996 From: fricke@roboben.engr.ucdavis.edu (Tobin Fricke) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Getting Started Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 06:58:42 GMT Message-ID: <4jlb4m$4hg@news.snni.com> Reply-To: fricke@roboben.engr.ucdavis.edu Hello, I'm new to Amateur Radio and I'd like to get involved with Packet. I don't really know where to start. What do I need? Who can I ask? What can I do? I have Linux running. What's this ampr.org thing? Tobin Fricke ke6whf From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:02:57 1996 From: Charles Bolland Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap,rec.radio.amateur.antenna,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.space,rec.radio.noncomm,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,rec.radio.swap Subject: Shortwave etc database program.... Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 10:51:57 -0800 Message-ID: <315ED44D.1E94@flinet.com> Sir, A stand alone IBM compatible Broadcasting Radio Station Database program for Longwave, Mediumwave, or Shortwave. 4000 records... Completely read/write and updateable... If you'd like a copy, send your EMail address and Postal Address which will be used to pass you more detailed information on the full featured program.... The above program will be sent via EMAIL... All information will be kept confidential.... Chuck KA4PRF From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:02:58 1996 From: Dave Maciorowski Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: TC/PIP with Winsock in Win 3.1 Date: 31 Mar 1996 13:54:31 GMT Message-ID: <4jm2qn$99d@cloner3.netcom.com> References: <315DD042.40B1@telepath.com> "S. Sampson" wrote: >Tony Porter wrote: >> >> Hi.... >> >> I am trying to set up a TC/PIP port using Winsock. >> I have set it up for SLIP operation but still cannot get it to talk to the TNC. >> I am using a PK-88 on Com 2. > >PK-88 doesn't understand SLIP. >Winsock doesn't speak KISS and AX.25 > >Can't be done until the AX.25 VxD driver gets built. Best bet is to hook an >old XT up via ethernet and run JNOS. Actually, it has been done in a Packet Driver called ETHRAX25 and that works f ine under Win3.1 with Trumpet Winsock and a shim called Winpkt. ETHRAX25 accepts Winsoc k requests and speaks KISS and AX.25. Just works. (Yeah, yeah, not a VxD :-) "What the world really needs" is an NDIS 3.0 versi on of ETHRAX25... ----- Dave Maciorowski, WA1JHK Colorado Repeater Association, Inc. Serving Colorado with Voice and Data, 6-Meters to 1.2 Gig Internet: wa1jhk@ix.netcom.com or wa1jhk@amsat.org CRA: http://www.rmsd.com/hamradio/cra/ From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:02:59 1996 From: Bill Hayhurst Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: HOKA CODE 3 - ANYONE USE IT? Date: 31 Mar 1996 15:21:51 GMT Message-ID: <4jm7uf$sc3@news.flinet.com> Has anyone here used the Hoka Code 3 data decoder? If so, how well did it work? I've had a MT-1000 decoder for some time, but could never get anything but RTTY and Packet out of it. Any input would be helpful. Bill Hayhurts billh@flinet.com From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:03:01 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Subject: Re: Interested in Packet in NY Message-ID: <1996Mar31.195932.21749@ke4zv.atl.ga.us> Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 19:59:32 GMT In article midgard@nycmetro.com (SARUMAN) writes: >Hi I've been bitten by the bug of packet radio and before getting too crazy >over it would like to request some info. I'm currently NOT licenced tho have >purchased the study materials and begun reading tho. > >Anyway what I'd like to know is, does there exist any Gateways to the Interne t >via Packet in the Brooklyn New York area or any of the 5 boro's? >Or is packet more like local BBS's? I can't help with specific gateway locations. Some exist, but much of packet messaging still revolves around the paradigm of the BBS. >What is the average Baud rate? I've seen folks mention 56k but it didn't seem >to be the norm tho I'd be happy with 14.4k or 28.8k(I use 28.8k modem via lan d >line now). Amateur 56 kb RF modems have existed for 9 years now, but they still aren't in wide use. Partially that's because up until now they have only been available as kits, but PacComm now has a W&T unit. Partially it has been because people have not understood that the modem is also the radio, and thus isn't as costly as it appears, though a transverter is needed and those aren't free. And partially because of the chicken and egg problem. It does little good for you to buy a 56 kb system if no one else in your area has one. A way around this problem is to participate in group purchases with other local amateurs. The step down from 56 kb is a large one in amateur packet. The next level is 9600 baud. That also has been held back because the 9600 baud systems aren't plug and play with most voice grade radios, and many amateurs have been unwilling to do the internal modifications to their radios to allow 9600 baud to work through them, or in some cases have radios which are unsuitable for such modifications. So the most common amateur packet radio baud remains 1200, and that's to say the least dismal. And it is worse than it may at first appear because packet is generally half-duplex, and often needs relay hops to reach its intended destination. Half-duplex operation of course increases interactive latency a *lot*, and each relay hop cuts the effective baud in half due to the store and forward nature of packet relay. So latency becomes *huge* and performance can't be compared to operation over telco, even at the same baud. You're not going to do much websurfing, unless you have the patience of Job, when response times to mouse clicks are most convienently measured in *minutes*. For text only use, like usenet, 9600 is tolerable, but for websurfing nothing less than 56 kb is usable. It has a "feel" most similar to using a 28.8 kb modem on a telco line (assuming the number of intervening relay hops are few). But there's that chicken and egg problem. >Another thing that perplexes me....Why do the TNC's need RAM for mail boxes? >Don't they simply route the incoming mail to the connected Computer? Or does >the RAM act as a Buffer/Spool? The internal mailbox allows the TNC to receive and hold messages for you when your computer is turned off, or being used for other tasks. Many packet operators leave their TNC and radio on all the time, but don't leave their computer on all the time. Those that do, however, such as Linux users, or those using one of the flavors of NOS (a TCP/IP program for DOS machines), don't need or want the mailbox function in the TNC, and generally leave it disabled, operating the TNC in the so-called KISS mode instead. >Also if you could recommend a Basic inexpensive Radio for Packet use that'd >help. Recomendation of a High Speed TNC would be nice as well. >I'd like to keep the outlay of funds to under $400-$500 if possible and >not averse to used equipment. For around $500, you can put together a 56 kb station. Remember in this case that the modem *is* also the radio, though a transverter is also required. The modem is still available in kit form from GRAPES for $250, and transverters are available used for around $160 (MMT432S, 10 watt), or as kits from places like Down East Microwave for $155 (though an external amp may be desired here). You also need a data pump, and the Ottawa PI2 card is $125. So you're looking at about $535 plus antenna and miscellaneous bits. Or you can put together a 9600 baud station for about $500 using a $200 TNC/9600 baud modem and a 2m voice grade radio for around $300-$350 (though if low power and 70cm operation are sufficient, a Tekk KS-900 2 watt data radio can be substituted at about $140). Or you can put together a 1200 baud station for about $400 with a $125 TNC/1200 baud modem and a $300-$350 2m radio (though you can use a commercial surplus radio for as little as $50 plus crystals and conversion costs). As you can see, the cost differential of the various options is not large, but the performance differences are huge. The only reason 1200 baud hangs around is that amateurs often ignore the cost of the radio in their calculations of 1200 baud setups since they already have a 2m voice radio that can be used, and they consider that "free". When the cost of the complete station is totalled, however, the nearly 47 times improvement in throughput of 56 kb makes it by far the cheapest per bit setup. >Lastly I know my current Internet provider connects to the Net via Satellite >is this Doable with a Technician's Licence? If you mean can you access the same satellite as your ISP with an amateur license, the answer is no. That's commercial common carrier service, not amateur radio service. But if you mean can you use *amateur radio* satellites with packet, the answer is a definite yes. However, these satellites are essentially orbiting BBS systems, not internet access points. >As you may have noticed I'm pretty GREEN so any help would be appreciated. >So far I've been reading CQ and Gordon West's No Code Technician study book. Amateur radio has a lot to offer, but it isn't a substitute for an ISP, at least not yet. If you want to *use* networking, amateur radio offers limited functionality at present, but if you want to learn about, experiment with, and build digital hardware, software, and wireless networks, then amateur radio offers opportunities available nowhere else. Gary -- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | Due to provider problems Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | with previous uucp address es 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | Email to ke4zv@radio.org Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | | From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:03:02 1996 Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Message-ID: <221@onli_info.win.net> Reply-To: russell_hibma@onli_info.win.net (RUSSELL HIBMA) From: russell_hibma@onli_info.win.net (RUSSELL HIBMA) Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 21:28:00 GMT Subject: KPC-3 I'm looking for the Packet software that comes with this TNC. I picked it up at a hamfest but the owner forgot the software for it. Any Help? de KA9MRU --- * PowerAccess 1.08 Braniff ran OS/2. From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:03:03 1996 From: rcarpen@DGS.dgsys.COM (Robert J. Carpenter) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Need for Differential GPS Date: 31 Mar 96 22:21:21 GMT Message-ID: Tom Clark (W3IWI) just posted a good answer describing methods for obtaining high accuracy in GPS using DGPS (Differential GPS). These corrections are largely needed because of Selective Availability (SA) introduced into the "public" part of GPS to intentionally degrade its accuracy. However, Tom didn't mention an article in his Saturday's Washington Post. There was a front-page article reporting that the White House has decreed that SA **will** go away. This will mean an accuracy on the order of 10-30 meters for everyone, without DGS. You'll still need DGPS to do better. The bad part is that they are talking about a phase-out over 4 to 10 YEARS. Tom, please get your politics working on shortening the time, please, please!!!! 73 de Bob w3otc From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:03:04 1996 From: vbook@vbook.com (Ed Mitchell) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.policy,rec.radio.amateur.homebrew,rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.scanner,rec.radio.shortwave,sci.electronics,rec.radio.pirates Subject: April edition, Ham Radio Online is now available Date: 31 Mar 1996 23:33:52 GMT Message-ID: <4jn4p0$phg@news.accessone.com> The April edition of Ham Radio Online magazine is now available at http://www.accessone.com/~vbook or http://www.accessone.com/~vbook/hronline.htm This month features original stories on packet radio path quality, spread spectrum communications, more information on making your own solar observations, gettin g started in shortwave listening and an amazing list of hidden or not so hidden renditions of Morse code in popular music. We will be adding more stories over the coming weeks - this is a dynamic magazine with upates appearing as often as daily. As usual, Ham Radio Online also features Amateur radio newsletters from around the world, real-time ionospheric propagation reports, real-time aurora conditions, real-time MUF calculations, real-time earthquake and severe weather reports an d so much more. Stop and by and enjoy. We are free - and free of ads too - your stories are always welcome at Ham Radio Online. Thanks and 73, Ed and Kim Mitchell, KF7VY and N7VPL ------------------------ Ed (KF7VY) and Kim (N7VPL) Mitchell personal email to vbook@vbook.com Visit Ham Radio Online, it's free! at http://www.accessone.com/~vbook/hronline.htm From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:03:06 1996 From: jpheulin@ix.netcom.com(Jean-Pierre Heulin ) Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc Subject: Re: TC/PIP with Winsock in Win 3.1 Date: 31 Mar 1996 23:37:11 GMT Message-ID: <4jn4v7$16t@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com> References: In ajporter@pine.shu.ac.UK (Tony Porter) writes: > >Hi.... > >I am trying to set up a TC/PIP port using Winsock. >I have set it up for SLIP operation but still cannot get it to talk to the TNC. >I am using a PK-88 on Com 2. >I was also looking at trying it on a Baycom modem or my Type 2 DRSI, by interfacing with BPQ, but have been unable >to do this. >The idea behind it is that I can set up and run a TC/PIP gateway, with TC/PIP on one of the ports, while leaving the >others free for AX25 with FBBwin 7. > >I would appreciate any response from anyone who has acheived this, and can shed some light on how to go about it. > >Thanks >Tony > >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- >Tony Porter >Sheffield, England > >E-Mail:- ajporter@pine.shu.ac.uk >AX25:- G0OQD @ GB7WRG.#19.GBR.EU >AMPR:- g0oqd@g0oqd.ampr.org.uk >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > > You have to use 2 drivers to get TCP/IP under windows 3.1 to talk to your TNC. You must first load ETHRAX25, this will convert ethernet frames into AX25 and vice-versa. You also need the WINPKT driver loaded. You can then run Trumpet Winsock and use telnet, ftp, ping programs. I use Win95 here now but I used 3.1 and trumpet Winsock for about a year before and it worked fine. You can get ETHRAX25 from ftp at UCSD in the HAMRADIO\PACKET\TCPIP\MISC directory. Good luck and 73 de Jean-Pierre kc6jet From lwbyppp@epix.net Tue Apr 02 09:03:08 1996 From: jrospopo@pcc-uky.campus.mci.net (Jim Rospopo) Newsgroups: aus.radio.amateur.digital,rec.radio.amateur.digital.misc,rec.radio.amateur.equipment,sanet.radio.packet,alt.radio.digital Subject: Re: MFJ1270C - HTX212 Problems Date: Sun, 31 Mar 1996 23:42:04 GMT Message-ID: <315f176e.36070007@news.campus.mci.net> References: <4jkupl$iem$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> On 31 Mar 1996 03:39:33 GMT, Brian Webb <102670.1206@CompuServe.COM> wrote: >I own an MFJ1270C packet TNC. I've tried interfacing it with two >radios with no luck. > >I connected it to an HTX202 HT and I had good receive, but no >transmit. I used an MFJ premade cable and a homebrew cable with >the same problem. > >Yesterday I tried connecting this TNC to a Radio Shack HTX212 >mobile radio. Same problem: Good packet reception, but couldn't >key my radio (I was doing the CALIBRA K transmit level >adjustment procedure). > >I removed jumper L as suggested by MFJ and I also removed a 4.7 >K ohm resistor that I had hooked in parallel with R140 in my >earlier attempt to use my HT. > >Any idea what is going on here? > >Regards, > >Brian Webb, KD6NRP > > Brian, I have a 1270c connected to a HTX 212 and everything is working fine. The cable that I got from MFJ was wired wrong on one pin so as soon as I fixed that everything was fine. I would suggest that you look closely at the radio manuals and trace the wires to the correct connections. Best way to do this is with a VOM using the continuity tester. Jim KE4CON